[12:28] vg, glad that this community is making good impressions :) [12:29] <[g2] > Ok, I was going to do a fresh install and mythtv install [12:29] <[g2] > what do you want me to use as a base ? [12:29] <[g2] > beta2 ? [12:29] well any release, the first step is sudo apt-get update either way :) [12:29] <[g2] > or dist-upgrade ? [12:30] and dist-upgrade too yes [12:30] <[g2] > Ok, I think that's take about 30-45 minutes [12:30] k [12:30] <[g2] > hmmm well actually..... [12:30] which mirror are you using? [12:31] it should really be a much more painless process this time around, so dont worry too much [12:31] <[g2] > superm1, isn't worried at all :) [12:31] <[g2] > actually, bbi5m [12:38] <[g2] > ok that' [12:38] <[g2] > ok that's better... plan b [12:41] plan b? [12:44] <[g2] > yeah I just moved another server and I'm ready to go [12:44] <[g2] > it's fully upgraded and I just need to delete the old stuff and install the new [12:45] just make sure the packages are purged not regular apt-get remove, and follow those directories to delete [12:45] and you should be fine [12:47] <[g2] > Ok I think I'm ready [12:47] <[g2] > where's the guide ? [12:47] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/FeistyTop [12:48] <[g2] > majoridiot, any special thing I should test ? [12:49] <[g2] > backend only ? combined ? frontend only ? [12:49] have at... your discretion [12:49] they all work very well :) [12:50] <[g2] > majoridiot, sw doesn't work very well on its own usually, kinda like diamonds in the rough they need to be polished into it :) [12:51] actually, these packages are pretty much idiot-proof [12:51] as tested by this idiot ;) [12:51] well majoridiot and i know the secret way you can mess them up, but on one has done it yet.... [12:51] so we wont call it a bug, but rather: an easter egg [12:51] :) [12:52] okay gents, i'm out. cya later [12:53] <[g2] > cheers === rushfan_ [n=g2@cpe-066-057-009-238.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Chadarius [n=Chadariu@c-71-228-30-253.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:15] majoridiot Ok I think I've already got the nvidia drivers installed [01:16] k === majoridiot wonders who rushfan is lol === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:38] majoridiot there were two power surges/outages here today... The hw isn't completely happy [01:39] a UPS is cheap, dude [01:39] It's having issues running synaptic, which I are completely unrelated to the upgrade [01:39] protect yer babies ;) [01:39] well I have 2 ups, [01:39] I just didn't have one on this box, but I had a surge protector [01:39] ah [01:40] after the first outage it got the 1 of the UPSes :) [01:40] i got paranoid. everything is on a ups here. [01:41] well I've got a few expensive surge/outlet boxes [01:41] saved me the other night... writing docs and the power blinked. would have lost a huge edit on the guides. [01:41] the server actually moved in the last few days so it was on a cheaper one [01:43] well having been from the days when we had a 10MB External Shugart drive before the XT Winchester drives came out, I backup early and often [01:43] :) [01:43] my first was a 5MB western digital. sounded like a jet engine when it spun up. [01:44] heh [01:44] RLL that's the term I was looking for [01:44] hehe... of course that was also back when the entire drive for it was about 12KB [01:45] this one was MFM, i believe [01:45] yeah MFM [01:45] (driver for it) [01:45] it's so bizzare we've got 1GB+ flash sticks [01:46] yeah. i boggles my mind sometimes. [01:46] won't be long it'll be 1TB :) [01:47] i was looking over some old source code the other night... trying to get inspired to get at it again. i was thoroughly amused at the simplicity of things back then. [01:48] what just hook the BIOS ints with TSRs ? [01:48] :) [01:48] XOPs [01:48] :) [01:49] man, those were the good old days. lol [01:49] I think in '96 I spent two weeks getting X11 setup for FreeBSD 1x or 2.x [01:50] it was fun, but the LiveCDs of the last several years are quite sweet :) [01:50] i just started with linux late last summer. [01:50] so i'm trying to play catch-up on pretty much everything [01:51] ubuntu seems like the best distro to get into [01:51] for nearly everything yes [01:51] good community, good code, best widespread appeal, i think. [01:51] I think embedded and build-from scratch are other choices [01:52] absolutely [01:52] i was speaking more in a "for the masses" aspect [01:52] sure, I fully agree there [01:53] that's why I said "for nearly everything" [01:53] yup === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-141-149-184-76.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-141-149-184-76.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [02:16] anyone know how to disable NCQ ? [02:16] hm [02:17] does your mobo have settings? [02:17] or are you looking for a driver switch/option? [02:18] what chipset is it? [02:19] i only see 3 chipsets that support it [02:20] echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/queue_depth [02:20] will disable it [02:20] I've got a NV mobo [02:21] I think an Nforce4 (939) processor [02:21] and NCQ is on? for sure? [02:22] dmesg | grep NCQ [02:23] well I'm getting errors similar to some libata issues on 2.6.20 [02:24] the echo comman above will diable it for the device you select. probably needs sudo. [02:24] yup depth 31/32 [02:25] then it's on [02:26] there's no device dir under the sdaX dir [02:27] hm. [02:28] I can see the errors on ata4.00 though [02:29] you don't have a device dir? it's a symlink [02:30] e.g. /sys/block/sdb/device ... [02:30] mine is there. [02:30] for all 3 satas on this box [02:31] if it's your sda drive... [02:31] sudo sh -c 'echo 1 > /sys/block/sda/device/queue_depth' [02:31] to disable it [02:36] hmmm I don't have write as root on that device (it's sdb) [02:36] but on that disk there is the queue_depth [02:37] don't have write as root? [02:37] nod === majoridiot doesn't understand [02:37] I get a permission error on the echo [02:38] k [02:38] sudo -i [02:38] and then just do the echo [02:38] I've done a "su -" and I'm at the # prompt [02:39] it you are root, you should be able to echo to it [02:39] if [02:39] oh I'm totally root [02:39] and I know I _should_ be able to write to tjat [02:39] that [02:39] what err does it throw? [02:39] it was a perms error [02:40] I've unplugged the disk [02:40] I have to keep rebooting as the system locks up like every 2 minutes [02:41] hm. i can't echo that either. [02:42] Ok... before I did a ctrl-alt-f1 and logged in under root [02:42] yeah often parameters are RO [02:42] yeah... i was wonering about a real console [02:43] info is direct from linux-ata [02:43] well that's in flux a lot lately [02:43] it's been hosing up my embedded ide drive [02:44] majoridiot Ok, thx.. I think we isolated the issue (and the drive is unplugged) [02:45] vg [02:45] well the issue isn't fixed, but I can got back to the install :) [02:46] yup [02:46] it was only 300G going off-line [02:46] is there a bugreport filed on your issue? [02:47] I had googled and saw some stuff on the kernel ml [02:47] ah [02:47] I didn't see a bug report and haven't searched in there yet [02:48] i wonder if that has something to do with the feisty RC being held [02:50] hmmm... Ok, I did the mythtv install, but didn't get the popup on the backend [02:51] server or desktop? [02:51] desktop I'm guessing [02:51] which install did you do? [02:51] desktop [02:51] backend/frontend or just backend? === bronson_ [n=bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Ex-Chat"] [02:51] combine [02:52] k. the mythtv metapackage [02:52] yeah [02:52] which popup did you not get? [02:52] configuring mythtv-backend ... [02:53] majoridiot btw do you know what I think would be nice ? An autonumber on the screen shots [02:53] so I could just say 3.2.5 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend_Desktop_O [02:53] ok... what exactly happened? [02:54] the install completed [02:54] did you get the popup with the mysql password? [02:54] nope [02:54] wtf? [02:54] synaptic or apt-get? [02:55] synaptic [02:55] I'm following the instructions right ? :) [02:55] this is a feisty install, correct? [02:55] wyah [02:55] yeah [02:56] Ubuntu 7.04 [02:56] /etc/issue [02:56] so after hitting "apply"... it downloaded and installed all the packages and just stopped? [02:56] think so [02:56] think so or know so? === majoridiot is firing up an install [02:57] well it started, then it just stopped [02:57] I'm at the command line now. I was going to remove the packages and do it from the cli [02:57] sounds like it's on your end [02:58] on my end how ? [02:58] k [02:58] do this [02:59] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [02:59] Ok prompting for mythtv-database name and localhost is filled in [03:00] gimme a sec... [03:06] sorry... fod is here [03:06] food [03:07] was this a clean install? from a fresh format? [03:07] or did you have a previously installed version of myth installed? === majoridiot thinks you had residue [03:07] it's possible [03:07] I tried to clear out all the residue [03:08] will try again [03:08] the best way... [03:09] btw it does seem like sata_nv and pata are issues for the kernel and under test now [03:09] that i've found [03:09] (cool) [03:09] search for mythtv in synaptic and then do a remove completely for each individual component [03:09] and then do the same for mysql [03:10] (for EVERYTHING) [03:13] ok done [03:13] try the mythtv metapackage again [03:16] ok still no pop up [03:16] hm. [03:16] it did configure the things and I've got the "details" copied [03:16] ok... i'm installing a fresh desktop and trying it. it'll be a few. [03:16] I can pastebin it [03:16] dunno if that provides any info for you [03:17] let me see what happens when i try an install. [03:18] which mirror are you using? === [g2-lap] [n=g2@cpe-066-057-009-238.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:19] <[g2-lap] > http://www.pastebin.ca/443844 [03:19] us [03:19] the main ubuntu repository? [03:20] I think so us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu fiesty [03:20] k [03:21] another interesting idea would be a audit for synaptic/apt on something like mythtv [03:21] it could generate the md5/sha1's for all the given packages and possibly config files [03:37] heh.... this is really funmy [03:37] funny [03:39] so I dl a BenC kernel which is a .26 version that's supposed to have the sata_nv fix in it [03:39] I plug the drive in and boot it and it appears to be running fine without errors yet [03:39] thaz good [03:39] _however_..... there's no ivtv drivers :) [03:39] beggars can't be choosers [03:40] well the purpose of the box is a pvr :) [03:40] no ivtv drivers no pvr [03:41] you can always install ivtv yourself [03:41] except the kernel isn't in the repo [03:45] you can always go with the current kernel with ivtv and wait for the nv to catch up [03:46] majoridiot sure and just not have the 300G drive plugged in [03:46] I was talking to Ben in -kernel [03:46] plug it it later [03:46] and? [03:47] I was letting him know that from my pov the change he had in his .26 kernel may not be in the .27 mainline [03:47] being that the .27 failed, but his kernel seems to be working well [03:48] I'm running bonnie++ now [03:50] formatted, updated and rebooting... [03:51] installing the mythtv metapackage [03:52] as written. [03:52] it's on your end, dude. [03:54] hmmm. Ok [03:55] install complete and it went as it should. === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:49] majoridiot, im having problems with the feisty box [05:49] even watching 1 show my load is 1.75 and flagging comercials is only 22fps [05:49] video seems laggy almost [05:49] video laggy is likely your ati driver [05:49] do a top [05:50] load too? [05:50] see what is loading you [05:50] h/o i will finishing colbert report [05:50] john kerry is on [05:56] back [05:56] what am i looking for in top [05:56] whatever is hoging your cpu [05:57] mythtvfrontend is taking 60% [05:57] probabbly because of video drivers [05:57] there's your answer [05:57] well new card will be here wednesday [05:57] :) [05:58] i got an open box 6200LE 128mb from egg for 28$ shipped [05:58] very good deal [05:58] cheap [05:58] yup [05:59] bleh, thursday [05:59] ups = slow [06:05] biab === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Chadarius [n=Chadariu@c-71-228-30-253.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-141-149-184-76.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jetsaredi1 [n=jgreenwa@pool-141-149-184-76.bos.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Chadarius [n=Chadariu@c-71-228-30-253.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:28] anyone around? 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