[10:19] <[miles] > morning guys
[10:19] <[miles] > is anyone building their own packages?
[10:24] <shawarma> Sure
[10:25] <lionel> hi [miles] 
[10:25] <ajmitch> packages of what?
[10:25] <[miles] > gentlemen
[10:26] <[miles] > well, building .deb's from source tarballs
[10:28] <[miles] > ajmitch: I used to package RPM's
[10:28] <[miles] > ajmitch: but not done .deb 's yet
[10:29] <[miles] > hi vpol
[10:29] <[miles] > and welcome
[10:29] <vpol> thnx.
[10:30] <ajmitch> ok, are you wanting information on debian packaging?
[10:31] <[miles] > ajmitch: well, just some tip's really as to the best methods
[10:31] <[miles] > ajmitch: I see there is a load of packages to assist
[10:32] <ajmitch> 20:32 <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a 
[10:32] <ajmitch>               package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[10:32] <[miles] > ok thanks ajmitch
[10:32] <ajmitch> that, and the debian NM guide
[10:32] <ajmitch> and #ubuntu-motu
[10:33] <[miles] > ajmitch: you also do RPM's ?
[10:33] <[miles] > ajmitch: ie, can you say which is the easier to package... .deb or .rpm
[10:33] <[miles] > ah ok
[10:33] <[miles] > lol
[10:33] <ajmitch> I've only done debian packaging in that time
[10:40] <[miles] > vpol: your using server version yeah?
[10:40] <vpol> [miles] : yup. on many servers.
[10:45] <[miles] > vpol: which country u in?
[10:45] <vpol> [miles] : russia.
[10:48] <[miles] > ah jeje
[10:48] <[miles] > ok
[10:49] <[miles] > vpol: your nick is familar
[10:49] <[miles] > vpol: you doing something with jabber?
[10:49] <vpol> [miles] : messaging :)
[12:34] <[miles] > damn it, I hate Horde
[12:34] <[miles] > having to set it all up
[12:34] <[miles] > it's bloated to hell
[12:57] <dballester> hi to all
[12:58] <dballester> sorry for this nerd question but, anyone knows what password is generated by default for postgresql ( 8.1 )? or at least where i can get this info...
[01:01] <fabbione> dballester: ask pitti on irc
[01:01] <fabbione> he is the maintainer
[01:01] <dballester> thanks fabbione 
[01:10] <dballester> fabbione, do you remember who is the mantainer for the bacula-postgresql packages ?
[01:10] <fabbione> dballester: dpkg -p $packagename 
[01:11] <dballester> fabbione, good idea :) polite one 
[01:11] <fabbione> :)
[01:13] <dballester> John Goerzen
[02:19] <knix_> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu server 6.06 to feisty?
[02:20] <knix_> If so, how?
[03:02] <mralphabet> knix_: 6.06 ---> 6.10 ---> 7.04
[03:12] <hirs> hello
[03:18] <knix_> mralphabet, just change the sources and update -dist accordingly?
[03:47] <mralphabet> knix_: http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-606-dapper-drake-to-ubuntu-10-edgy-eft.html
[03:52] <knix_> mralphabet, ty
[03:53] <knix_> mralphabet, will this break my server, if I go from dapper-edgy-feisty?
[03:55] <knix_> mralphabet, also that site is showing for a gui version.  My server is headless, so just edit the sources and so forth?
[03:55] <mralphabet> knix_: further down it lists cli instructions
[03:56] <mralphabet> knix_: will it break your server? . . . probably ;)
[03:56] <mralphabet> knix_: dapper to edgy is not nearly as smooth as edgy to feisty
[03:57] <mralphabet> knix_: you should be fine, though
[03:58] <knix_> mralphabet, ty
[04:12] <hirs> he guys
[04:12] <knix_> wassssabie
[04:13] <hirs> will anyone of you be so kind to spend yome time for me and my problems?
[04:14] <mralphabet> no, but you are welcome to ask your question anyway!
[04:14] <knix_> lets here it..   Throw it out there and someone will get it
[04:15] <hirs> i am trying to install ubuntu-server 6.06.1 amd64 on a hp ml310 g4 machine
[04:15] <knix_> good man
[04:15] <hirs> but if i choose the country i am coming from(austria) and pressing enter, nothing happens
[04:15] <hirs> there will be only a blue screen
[04:16] <hirs> then i have changed to tty4
[04:16] <hirs> and theres the party going on
[04:16] <hirs> error error error
[04:16] <hirs> but its to fast for me to read is
[04:17] <hirs> i only can read about: usb, usb hub, usb hp virtual mouse, usb disconnected
[04:17] <hirs> then i have disabled all usb ports in bios
[04:17] <hirs> but the same thing happens again
[04:17] <hirs> i dont know what to do?
[04:18] <hirs> is it possible that 6.06.1 is not so compatible with intel chipsets?
[04:18] <mralphabet> hirs: I would put that in the bug category, you may want to search launchpad to see if anybody else has similar issues / possible fixes
[04:19] <hirs> ok i'll try to follow your instrunctions
[04:20] <hirs> i have to ask some experts in engish, im not so good at
[04:20] <hirs> ------------
[04:20] <hirs> ok now i have tried to install ubuntu-server 6.10
[04:20] <hirs> it works
[05:14] <shawarma> w/in 17
[05:33] <Shane-S> where does the server store network related logs and error logs?
[05:34] <Shane-S> I had an issue where it seems to have cause Windows DC's to never win elections, and apache failed and would not bind to port 80. I reboot seems to have corrected the problem, but I need to find out what it was
[05:34] <Shane-S> if it was the Ubuntu server at all or just a coincidence the problem cleared up when I rebooted
[05:37] <ivoks> Shane-S: samba logs are in /var/log/samba/
[05:37] <ivoks> Shane-S: apache logs are in /var/log/apache2/
[05:37] <Shane-S> what about general networking logs? I have samba on there but not setup for the domain
[05:38] <ivoks> you've probably already had apache running, so new instance couldn't bind to port 80
[05:38] <ivoks> general networking logs? like...?
[05:38] <ivoks> problems with kernel par of network are recoreded in /var/log/kern.log
[05:38] <Shane-S> if like eth0 had an error, bad packet, loss of connectivity?
[05:38] <ivoks> dmesg
[05:39] <ivoks> or /var/log/syslog
[05:39] <ivoks> or /var/log/kern.log
[05:39] <Shane-S> alrioght ty
[05:39] <ivoks> if you have samba in network, it will probably win elections
[05:39] <ivoks> you should configure it to loose or not try at all
[05:40] <Shane-S> yeah I may have to disable that, not very good with getting it running
[05:40] <ivoks> domain master = no
[05:40] <ivoks> local master = no
[05:40] <Shane-S> work with ip of system and asks for a local system account, but nothing AD based
[05:40] <ivoks> preferred master = no
[05:41] <ivoks> you want to set it up as BDC?
[05:41] <ivoks> it can be BDC only for NT4 stlye network
[05:41] <ivoks> or AD client
[05:41] <ivoks> it can't be BDC for AD
[05:41] <ivoks> (yet :)
[05:42] <Shane-S> no actually I only wanted Samba so my dumb users could "browse" to it
[05:42] <Shane-S> I use winSCP3
[05:42] <ivoks> ah.. i see..
[05:42] <ivoks> with authentication or without it?
[05:43] <Shane-S> well I was trying to get guest access, but i only got it with local Ubuntu account working
[05:43] <ivoks> do you want users to authenticate when connect or just get files, without entering username/password
[05:43] <Shane-S> but, its i9n production now, not sure if I want to play other then disabling it
[05:43] <ivoks> it's easy to make it with guest account
[05:44] <ivoks> for non-auth share, you need:
[05:44] <ivoks> in [global] 
[05:44] <Shane-S> well I am sharing the public web folder so teachers can upload their webpages
[05:44] <ivoks> security = share
[05:45] <ivoks> server string = name of your server
[05:45] <ivoks> and then, for a share:
[05:45] <ivoks> [share_name] 
[05:45] <ivoks> path = /path/to/shared/folder
[05:45] <ivoks> guest ok = yes
[05:45] <Shane-S> I will have to come back and link you to my conf
[05:45] <ivoks> :)
[05:45] <Shane-S> I am pretty sure I did all of that
[05:45] <Shane-S> I am almost out of battery power :(
[05:45] <Shane-S> I was out troubleshooting this building
[05:46] <ivoks> it's very important to set it security as share, not leave it as default
[05:46] <Shane-S> cause wireshark was showing me all kinds of Browser elections
[05:46] <Shane-S> and then someone called and is like the website just went down
[05:46] <Shane-S> reboot that and poof, issues here died
[05:46] <Shane-S> but problem is there are 4 buildings
[05:46] <Shane-S> and I could not tell if the others were having those issues
[05:47] <Shane-S> as wireshark can't read across routers :P
[05:47] <Shane-S> ohh well, I will be back in like an hour or so, thank you
[05:47] <ivoks> ah... beauty of the job :)
[05:47] <ivoks> i won't be here
[05:47] <ivoks> i'm just leaving...
[05:48] <Shane-S> alright
[05:48] <Shane-S> well I am sure someone can help
[05:48] <ivoks> yes
[05:48] <ivoks> well, bye
[05:48] <Shane-S> hmm
[05:48] <Shane-S> http://ww.mantuaschools.com/smb.txt
[05:48] <Shane-S> http://www.mantuaschools.com/smb.txt
[05:49] <Shane-S> there, I had linked it from when I was setting it up :P
[05:49] <ivoks> security = user is bad
[05:49] <ivoks> as i said, it must be share
[05:49] <Shane-S> ok
[05:50] <ivoks> cause, if it's user, then every time one connects she has to enter username/password
[05:50] <ivoks> with share security, when you choose share, you have to enter pass only if it requiers
[05:50] <ivoks> if it's guest = ok, then no passwd is asked
[05:50] <Shane-S> you see anything there that would mess with server elections?
[05:51] <ivoks> this is 'advanced' setup :)
[05:51] <ivoks> no, meaning it's default
[05:51] <ivoks> if it's default, samba will try to become master of your network
[05:51] <mralphabet> Shane-S: http://jonpeck.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-to-configure-80-fileserver-in-45.html
[05:51] <ivoks> take a look at man smb.conf and seach for 'master'
[05:52] <mralphabet> Shane-S: great tips for setting up a quick file server
[05:52] <ivoks> mralphabet: making things complicate with swat? :)
[05:52] <Shane-S> thanks, I followed some tutorial to get the conf
[05:52] <Shane-S> but it did what I needed kinda
[05:52] <Shane-S> thanks all I will be save this and bbl
[05:53] <mralphabet> ivoks: it works . .. usually
[05:53] <ivoks> Shane-S: domain master = no
[05:53] <mralphabet> ivoks: quick guide, that's all it is
[05:53] <mralphabet> ;)
[05:53] <ivoks> mralphabet: once you will not have access to swat on your server (cause of firewall or something else) and then you will look at smb.conf
[05:54] <ivoks> mralphabet: that will be the last day you had swat on your mind :D
[05:54] <ivoks> or any other non-vim tool for configuration :D
[05:54] <ivoks> anyway, take care guys...
[05:54] <mralphabet> lol
[05:54] <ivoks> see you later
[05:55] <mralphabet> later ivoks
[05:55] <Shane-S> same with me
[05:55] <Shane-S> bbl ty
[08:06] <AlexC_> Hey hey,
[08:07] <lionel> Hi AlexC_
[08:07] <AlexC_> could someone point to a good guide for getting email working, so I can use it as a mail server as well? I belive I need to install Postfix?
[08:07] <Nafallo> AlexC_: help.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <AlexC_> =) ok, let me check it out
[08:11] <AlexC_> huh? why do I have to set a mail name?
[08:11] <AlexC_> say for example I was hosted at   myhost.com  my email address would not look like  account@myhost.com but account@mydomain.com
[08:11] <AlexC_> its telling me to set the mail name that email will be sent/received from :S
[08:12] <AlexC_> does that mean everyone will then have to use  account@myhost.com  and not their own domain name?
[08:13] <Nafallo> you found the serverguide?
[08:14] <Nafallo> I used one of the community ones :-)
[08:15] <AlexC_> yes I used server guide
[08:15] <AlexC_> so, does that mean I've just done it weong lol
[08:15] <AlexC_> s/weong/wrong
[08:25] <Nafallo> depends on your needs
[08:26] <Nafallo> my server uses PostgreSQL to lookup stuff
[08:28] <AlexC_> hum, is there a way to use a Virtual postfix ... like you do with Apache and Virtual Hosts?
[08:28] <Nafallo> thats what I do
[08:29] <Nafallo> help.ubuntu.com and look at the community section
[08:39] <AlexC_> wow, this postfix thing is making me go dizzy lol
[08:39] <AlexC_> if only I could afford cPanel =D
[09:37] <[GK] > Does anyone know how to configure a network in the Ubuntu Server Edition? I just installed it on the old computer I have lying around to test it out, but I installed it where I didn't have my network connected and now it won't connect to my internet for apt-get.
[09:40] <mralphabet> [GK] : /etc/network/interfaces
[09:40] <[GK] > awesome, thanks
[09:41] <[GK] > oh and more thing is it possible to install the ubuntu-desktop so I can have an interface to help me?
[09:41] <[GK] > I realize it will make it slower, but it will just be for configuring
[09:43] <mralphabet> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <[GK] > thought so
[09:43] <[GK] > thanks
[09:44] <mralphabet> sure thing, my paypal is <bleep>@bleep.com
[10:51] <[GK] > Hi, everyone I was hoping to get some help with installing the ubuntu-dektop on the server I am trying to set up. I have used sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. The problem is that when I agree to allowing it to install it says to insert the 'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)' disc into the drive. The problem is I do not have it on me. Also, I had used sudo apt-get dist-
[10:53] <mralphabet> [GK] : your sources.list has a cd as a repository
[10:53] <[GK] > mralphabet: And if I remove it, the install should work?
[10:54] <mralphabet> well . . . comment it ou
[10:54] <mralphabet> t
[10:54] <[GK] > ok thanks I'll try it
[10:55] <theacolyte> yes
[10:55] <theacolyte> it will
[10:55] <theacolyte> btw
[10:55] <theacolyte> I always do that for any ubuntu install
[10:56] <theacolyte> server/desktop dapper/feisty doesn't matter
[10:56] <theacolyte> all the packages on the cd are in the default repos
[10:56] <[GK] > great
[10:56] <[GK] > oh and where is the sources.list?
[10:57] <theacolyte> it's in /etc/apt
[10:58] <theacolyte> asdf I kicked the network cable out in my cacti box
[10:58] <theacolyte> gg gap in my graphs
[10:58] <[GK] > lol
[10:59] <[GK] > perfect its working now, thanks again
[11:07] <theacolyte> np
[11:50] <knix_> Where can I find documentation on feisty server?