[12:01] <www_qiq_by_ru> must visit :)
[12:02] <hflappy> is there a command i can do to strip numbers in an ip format from a .txt file?  just stripping the ip's and put in seperate file?
[12:02] <Faugn> what's the format?
[12:02] <hflappy> its in txt format
[12:02] <Faugn> the format of a line for ex?
[12:02] <Faugn> or no format?
[12:02] <hflappy> errr ip format... ???.???.???.???
[12:03] <dager> hflappy: give us a sample line from the .txt file
[12:03] <velko> hflappy: Faugn asks if you have more that one ip address on a line
[12:03] <_phantom_> what would I type to send data to a program running on a specific port using either telnet or netcat please?
[12:04] <hflappy> no just 1 ip per line  such as  example  192.168.0.1  - gateway   ,     line 2     192.168.0.2  - dns
[12:04] <preaction> _phantom_: man telnet, man netcat. why do you need to do this?
[12:04] <hflappy> so i just want the numbers put to a diff file
[12:04] <dager> hflappy: man awk
[12:04] <hflappy> awk?  k
[12:04] <www_qiq_by_ru> Good by
[12:04] <hflappy> ya i heard that one....i was tryin wit grep...but ya i try wit awk
[12:05] <jjholt> wouldn't a pipe to the device do it like foo > /dev/bar
[12:06] <killux> killux@killux-laptop:~$ sudo ifconfig ath1 hw ether 6B:69:6C:6C:75:78
[12:06] <killux> SIOCSIFHWADDR: Invalid argument
[12:06] <preaction> jjholt: more like "cat foo > /dev/bar"
[12:06] <killux> why does that happen
[12:07] <Faugn> hflappy: man sed :P
[12:07] <ubuntunewb> Anyone know how I can get bind9 to auot start when I reboot?
[12:07] <hflappy> k
[12:07] <schwagner> hflappy, man perl ;)
[12:07] <luca> can someone urgently help me please? I ned to restore the windows master boot record
[12:07] <hflappy> lol...ya i think sed will do it..i just haven't tried before
[12:08] <schwagner> luca, what's the problem?  what happened?
[12:08] <velko> luca: "fdiks /mbr" from dos prompt
[12:08] <onexused> luca: do you want to be able to use linux afterward?
[12:08] <luca> I installed ubuntu on a usb disk, internal disk with windows
[12:08] <ppepp> hi can i have some help walking me through installing google earth please
[12:08] <luca> now I can  boot only with usb attached. Need to have disk to boot windows afterwards
[12:09] <ubuntunewb> Anyone know how I can get bind9 to auto start when I reboot?
[12:09] <luca> ppepp: get automatix, it does it all :)
[12:09] <_phantom_> preaction: I am writing a few socket programs and need to test them by feeding in raw data to client and server
[12:09] <crdlb> luca, please don
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> no, don't get automatix - it's crap, it breaks things and if you ask in here after using it people will just say "you shouldn't have used automatix"
[12:09] <crdlb> 't
[12:09] <preaction> _phantom_: are they plaintext or binary?
[12:09] <andre> could somebody tell me how to change my desktop and keep separate ones , i change one and they all change
[12:09] <ppepp> luca: what does automatic do?
[12:09] <stefg> !grub | luca
[12:09] <ubotu> luca: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:10] <RedRose> My Audio Will not play at it's normal levels, IE as in windows. I have a laptop, so it's built in, but as soon as I run This command everything is normal. Can anyone help me simplify this process?
[12:10] <georgy_> luca : do you have live-cd ?
[12:10] <RedRose> Command: #kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:10] <_phantom_> preaction: they plain text
[12:10] <ppepp> *x
[12:10] <ubuntunewb> Anyone know how I can get bind9 to auto start when I reboot? What is the startup script to edit?
[12:10] <luca> gergy: yes
[12:10] <preaction> _phantom_: then telnet would be best, you get an interactive terminal to your server program.
[12:10] <meanfish> RedRose:  doubleclick on the audio button and make sure PCM volume is turned up to an acceptable level.
[12:10] <killux> killux@killux-laptop:~$ sudo ifconfig ath1 hw ether 6B:69:6C:6C:75:78
[12:10] <killux> SIOCSIFHWADDR: Invalid argument
[12:11] <barbarella> ubuntunewb:man update-rc.d
[12:11] <Faugn> RedRose: you can always put it in /etc/rc.local
[12:11] <saik0> Why wouldnt dmraid be able to activate an array it recognizes as OK?
[12:11] <luca> georgy: yes
[12:11] <ubuntunewb> do i need to log into the server for it to start if I put it in rc.local?
[12:12] <georgy_> luca : sorry, I'm on wrong way, live-cd will not help
[12:12] <jessie^^> is there a way to reset the vnc password from shell?
[12:12] <crdlb> ubuntunewb, no it's run at boot
[12:12] <barbarella> killux:ath1 or eth1
[12:12] <luca> no problem
[12:12] <PluckyBlade> meanfish: tks for that -- didn't know double click did that
[12:12] <crdlb> ubuntulog, but you don
[12:12] <killux> barbarella: ath1
[12:12] <crdlb> ubuntunewb, but you don't need rc.local for that
[12:12] <stefg> luca: is your system must obviously be able to boot from USB, isn't it?
[12:13] <luca> stefg: well actually quite the contraru, I must be restore the previous situation
[12:13] <luca> in which I booted directly from disk, NOT from usb
[12:13] <onexused> luca: do you have the Windows install CD?
[12:14] <stefg> luca: do have an option in your bios to select USB as boot-device?
[12:14] <PluckyBlade> anyone know if there is a keyboard accelerator to give the panel the focus?
[12:14] <luca> onexused: I fear not :S
[12:14] <luca> not the one for thes lapto anyhow
[12:14] <luca> (xp btw)
[12:14] <barbarella> ubuntunewb:update-rc.d -f bind9 defaults
[12:14] <Faugn> ubuntunewb: you can install rcconf to easily manage service
[12:14] <ubuntunewb> thx bar
[12:15] <onexused> luca: you sould like you have -a- windows install cd.  which one do u have?
[12:15] <luca> xp professional
[12:16] <luca> trying it right now, it's loading
[12:16] <onexused> when it finishes loading, try entering the recovery console, and typing "fixmbr" then rebooting without the cd
[12:17] <Rictoo> Are ncurses-devel and libncurses-devel the same thing?
[12:17] <Murmur> killux bring the interface down
[12:17] <onexused> i would say probably not
[12:17] <onexused> (to rictoo)
[12:17] <killux> Murmur: i did
[12:17] <Rictoo> because I'm compiling irssi in cygwin
[12:17] <velko> PluckyBlade: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html (ctrl + alt + tab)
[12:18] <Rictoo> and it says I need to get 'ncurses-devel'
[12:18] <AlCantara> hello! im searching an easy to use ftp-server, with gui to be used by an user, not a deamon for root.
[12:18] <Murmur> using native drivers ?
[12:18] <Rictoo> but I only found a libncurses-devel
[12:19] <killux> Murmur: i just compiled the madwifi drivers
[12:20] <PluckyBlade> tks velko -- will check that out -- currently have that bound in beryl ;)
[12:20] <Murmur> killux did u remove the native drivers before installing new (rmmod) ?
[12:21] <wladston> guys - trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it doens't work. It says that X couldn't be started, and at the end it doesn't even give me the command line. Can anyone help me ?
[12:21] <ppepp> i have a flickering black square in google earth and on some more demnding games, is this a graphics card problem that can be fixed?
[12:21] <Rictoo> ppepp: Most likely a driver problem
[12:21] <wladston> it just says "loading, please wait..."
[12:21] <_phantom_> preaction: I am a little inexperienced, do you think you could give me an example?
[12:21] <Rictoo> what gfx card do you have?
[12:21] <killux> yea
[12:21] <wondering> I have a lot of prospective Ubuntu machines I want to image at once. How would I do multicasting with DRBL to image Ubuntu?
[12:22] <crdlb> ppepp, are you using beryl/compiz?
[12:22] <enyc> wondering: whatis DRBL ?
[12:22] <killux> when i installed the new one it asked me i  wannted to remove the old drivers and i sayed yes Murmur
[12:22] <georgy_> wladston : try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <wondering> enyc: Diskless Remote Boot in Linux
[12:22] <ppepp> crdlb: yeh beryl, is that the problem?
[12:22] <preaction> _phantom_: did you read the manpage? all telnet does is open a port and give you a terminal. every character you type goes directly to the server running on that port
[12:22] <enyc> wondering: coo not heard about that before
[12:22] <wladston> georgy_: how ? it doesn't give me the command line
[12:22] <ppepp> Rictoo: Intel GMA 950
[12:23] <crdlb> ppepp, yep
[12:23] <enyc> wondering: I jnow you can do LTSP easily with ubuntu but thats likely not the same thing
[12:23] <Rictoo> Hah, is that even good enough for GOogle Earth?
[12:23] <wladston> georgy_: I just get a blinking cursor - I can't type
[12:23] <Rictoo> ppepp: Check xorg.conf, I gotta go now, sorry
[12:23] <Murmur> killux sry cant help u. i managed to get kismet going with my ralink pci, but the two probs I encountered were the old drivers and trying to spoof card when it was up
[12:23] <Rictoo> try different graphics drivers
[12:23] <wondering> enyc: Likely that it is not the same. I need to create identical setups in one room.
[12:23] <Rictoo> cya
[12:23] <crdlb> ppepp, it happens to me anywhere something is changing in the backround, such as the clock
[12:24] <enyc> wondering: hrrrm well LTSP will do that ;-)
[12:24] <dannyboy> test
[12:24] <enyc> wondering: with the clients running FROM the server... not unto themselves
[12:24] <dannyboy> hello
[12:24] <georgy_> wladston : put your logging  and password, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and answer the questions
[12:24] <enyc> wondering: but thats usually fine... thin clients..
[12:24] <wondering> enyc: I need the clients to have their own independent setups.
[12:24] <webcrawle> i have a T1 download line and a T1 upload line (1.5mbs) i was wondering when the 7.04 torrent is being released so i can help seed.
[12:24] <wladston> georgy_: also - ctrl+alt+f1...f7 doen't work
[12:24] <_phantom_> okay thanks
[12:24] <wondering> enyc: These aren't clients in that they aren't slaves. A better term is workstations I suppose.
[12:24] <enyc> webcrawle: soon, its been formally stated for release 2007/04/19  (on schedule)
[12:24] <ppepp> crdlb: thats ba-ad, i dont have that much of a problem, is this a problem thats going to be fixed with later releases or is it just going to get worse as it gets more demanding of the card
[12:25] <webcrawle> enyc:time of day in PST
[12:25] <enyc> wondering: hrrm well there are lots of ways of imaging machines... you dont need remoteboot for that
[12:25] <jrd> how does one determine their wireless network card driver?
[12:25] <enyc> webcrawle: unknown
[12:25] <_phantom_> preaction: I get the following when typing this: telnet: could not resolve localhost:60000/telnet: Name or service not known
[12:25] <crdlb> ppepp, just turn beryl off temporarily, I don't know of a fix
[12:25] <wladston> georgy_: I'm trying to install it
[12:25] <enyc> webcrawle: somewhere on that day.. should be... cant predict exactly...
[12:25] <wladston> georgy_: it doen't has a login/password yet
[12:25] <enyc> webcrawle: unless there is unexpected trouble
[12:25] <webcrawle> enyc:thanks
[12:26] <_phantom_> preaction: where 60000 is the port num
[12:26] <preaction> _phantom_: are you sure that port is open on that address?
[12:26] <wladston> georgy_: and even thoug - it's not asking a login/pass .. it simply shows a blinking cursor
[12:26] <georgy_> wladston : try to install in text mode
[12:26] <wladston> georgy_: how to do it ?
[12:26] <preaction> _phantom_: also, i do not think that localhost:60000 is the way to give an address to telnet
[12:26] <_phantom_> preaction: yes, Ill look into it further
[12:26] <enyc> webcrawle: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/ ...  there are .torrent links and so forth... just there is no RC (Release Candidate) or  release version yet!
[12:26] <georgy_> wladston : it's boot option
[12:27] <VSpike> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <stefg> wondering: maybe http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/ is of use for you
[12:27] <wladston> the only key combination that works is ctrl+alt+del :(
[12:27] <wladston> georgy_: It doesn't has any "text mode install" option
[12:27] <wondering> stefg: I've read through all of that already.
[12:28] <georgy_> wladston : safe graphical mode ?
[12:28] <wondering> stefg: Apparently I didn't mention it in here... so ctrl+c + ctrl+v :)
[12:28] <wladston> georgy_: tried - same results
[12:28] <nexous> How do I configure PHP with bluefish.
[12:28] <wondering> enyc: Likely that it is not the same. I need to create identical setups in one room. How would I setup Clonezilla + DRBL + multicasting to handle that? Is there a guide somewhere that could help me out?
[12:28] <wondering> Er... stefg
[12:28] <wondering> Apparently I did say it in here then.
[12:28] <xpoint> !update Hoary
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update hoary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <enyc> wondering: ive never used those
[12:29] <wondering> enyc: Sorry, that was meant for stefg
[12:29] <qwehnce> i removed OOo using apt-get, is incomplete because it cannot remove ttf-opensymbol, not i cannot add or remove any new programs
[12:29] <georgy_> wladston : you can download the alternate cd, then you have a text mode or press F1 for help and different boot options
[12:29] <enyc> wondering: there are tools like   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l   to image machines
[12:29] <barker> does anyone have steam/hl2/counterstrike working? i need a walk through...
[12:30] <wondering> enyc: They can't do multicasting and are far inferior to Clonezilla.
[12:30] <nexous> How do I configure PHP with bluefish.
[12:30] <barker> !wine
[12:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:30] <wondering> enyc: When you have a large enough setup of machines to image, multicasting is the way to go. It saves a lot of time. I just don't know how to set it up... :\
[12:30] <il-luzhin> anyone know a list of monitor identifiers for xorg? Can't get my res to 1440 x 900
[12:30] <barker> !steam
[12:30] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[12:31] <enyc> wondering: U see
[12:31] <`davo> anyone up to providing quick help?
[12:31] <enyc> wondering: I see what you are saying... I dont know myself
[12:32] <`davo> I'm reading instructions to installing a driver to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ but I don't have a /modules directory, nor can I create one...any ideas/
[12:32] <jrib> `davo: what driver?
[12:33] <`davo> jrib: via_drv driver
[12:33] <`davo> for my video card
[12:33] <VSpike> I really need help getting nvidia binary driver to start.  I had one from nvidia site installed, started to get problems all of a sudden after it worked for ages.  Tried to upgrade to latest version from nvidia, installer broke.  Tried to remove it an install packaged repos versions, won't start
[12:34] <killux> Murmur: my current mac address on ath1 is 00-16-E3-8F-CA-BB-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[12:34] <killux> isnt that weird?
[12:34] <barker> does anyone have steam/hl2/counterstrike working? i need a walk through... - ive been trying for days
[12:34] <darksoft> Question: I installed SWScanner but it errors opening as root saying the file isn't there, I'm new to this - any help appreciated :)
[12:34] <jrib> `davo: have you tried just using it?  I have a man page for via so it may just be included
[12:34] <NewbieBaba> hey - i downloaded "ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run" where should i move it to, to install?
[12:34] <NewbieBaba> its on my desktop atm
[12:35] <VSpike> When I run startx, I get dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 : undefined symbol: _nv000040gl
[12:35] <digitalhav0c> is anyone running fiesty on x41t and have the stylus working?
[12:35] <VSpike> then : failed to load /usr/lib/corg/modules/libglx.so
[12:35] <digitalhav0c> because i can't seem to get it to work
[12:35] <`davo> anyone familiar with via video drivers?
[12:36] <VSpike> then FATAL: could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko'
[12:36] <schwagner> NewbieBaba, you can probably run it from there, but i'd put it in it's own directory under your home dir
[12:36] <Visti> Hi people!
[12:37] <bayziders> Who ever recomened avant to me earlier,thank you this app is amazing.
[12:37] <rob-west> how much ram does ubuntu server need
[12:37] <schwagner> bayziders, you're welcome, it rocks
[12:37] <chowmeined> rob-west: it depends what you are using it for
[12:37] <rob-west> apache
[12:37] <bayziders> Can I add app luanchers to it?
[12:38] <NewbieBaba> ty schwagner its workin
[12:38] <NewbieBaba> ^^
[12:38] <bayziders> haha
[12:38] <bayziders> I CAN
[12:38] <chowmeined> rob-west: dynamic web sites? (php, perl, python)? or using database? (MySQL, PostgreSQL)?
[12:38] <Cretep50> is this an ok place for rank newbies?
[12:38] <rob-west> dynamic websites
[12:38] <rob-west> just with HTML
[12:39] <Pelo> Cretep50,  it's the only place for newbies,   everywhere else will send you here
[12:39] <chowmeined> how much traffic are you expecting? will you use a cache framework? (memcached)
[12:39] <Cretep50> ok thx.
[12:39] <smallfoot-> has ubuntu made so the terminal console application things have black background now, or is it still white?
[12:39] <Visti> bayziders: What exactly is it Avant is again? I remember it coming up in a conversation I had not to long ago..
[12:40] <barker> does anyone have steam/hl2/counterstrike working? i need a walk through... - ive been trying for days
[12:40] <bayziders> Just about identical to the os x dock
[12:40] <Pelo> barker,  under wine ?  ask in #winehq
[12:40] <bayziders> Here is a guide to install it
[12:40] <barker> good idea
[12:40] <bayziders> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300
[12:41] <Cretep50> i have installed Dapper on a Thinkpad it shares w Windows.... how can i see and read write those Word docs with OpenDoc?
[12:41] <Visti> Oh, right.
[12:41] <chowmeined> rob-west: if you arent expecting too much traffic you could use as little as 512MB of ram
[12:41] <eck> smallfoot-: it is white by default, but of course you can (and always have been able to) change it
[12:41] <chowmeined> rob-west: even less if you dont use a GUI
[12:41] <Pelo> Cretep50,  just save as , using  openoffice
[12:41] <Visti> I was never much for docks, they seem so unefficient..
[12:41] <rob-west> i wont use the GUI
[12:41] <rob-west> but can i use like 32MB ram
[12:42] <chowmeined> rob-west: i have never tried it with that little ram
[12:42] <bayziders> Wrecks the pannel and taskbar so hard it isnt even funny.
[12:42] <chowmeined> rob-west: but id suggest using a debian net-install cd instead.. it has a very minimal install base
[12:42] <aubade> Anyone have an idea as to how I could specify a resolution to start xserver in when using startx instead of a display manager?
[12:42] <chowmeined> rob-west: it worked with 64MB of ram
[12:42] <eck> rob-west: you can run linux with 32 MB of ram, but not really any interesting applications with that much
[12:42] <Cretep50> no, i mean i can't see anything in the Windows ntfs partition
[12:42] <CVirus> Are there any reports of hard disk failures after the last kernel update ?
[12:42] <rob-west> ok thanks
[12:42] <Pelo> !ntfs | Cretep50
[12:42] <ubotu> Cretep50: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:43] <VSpike> how can i remove the nvidia restricted modules?
[12:43] <owh> shooters: ping
[12:43] <Pelo> VSpike,  how did you install them ?
[12:43] <smallfoot-> has ubuntu made so the terminal console application things have black background now, or is it still white?
[12:43] <Cretep50> it shows the partition as mounted but says i don't have permissions to see the files in it
[12:43] <luca__> Hi all. I can't get my Sound Blaster Audigy card work properly under Feisty.
[12:43] <crdlb> smallfoot-, you can change that
[12:43] <htaccess> I want to install smokeping on ubuntu which wants exim4, as i have postfix installed i would prefer to use that, how do i tell aptitude to install with a dependency on mail-transport-agent virtual package rather than exim?
[12:43] <Pelo> smallfoot-,  my terminal is still white background
[12:44] <smallfoot-> ya i know
[12:44] <smallfoot-> but i dont like the default to be white
[12:44] <Cretep50> i did look in that community documentaiton about autmatically mounting partitions.
[12:44] <owh> smallfoot-: You mean gnome-terminal? The default background is white. You change it in the menu.
[12:44] <Cretep50> they're mounted but the contents seem invisible
[12:44] <smallfoot-> but a terminal is supposed to be black
[12:44] <smallfoot-> being white is just wrong
[12:44] <Caplain> schwagner, hey i got it working
[12:44] <Pelo> Cretep50,   sudo chmod 755 /pathto/mountpoint
[12:44] <VSpike> If i try to remove nvidia-kernel-common, it complains that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic depends on it.  And linux-restricted-modules depends on that.  And linux and linux-generic depend on that
[12:44] <crdlb> white is more friendly
[12:44] <smallfoot-> so you say blacks are unfriendly?
[12:44] <VSpike> Pelo: with aptitude I think
[12:44] <Seveas> VSpike, then don't remove it :)
[12:44] <eck> smallfoot-: no, the default for xterm is black on white
[12:44] <smallfoot-> oh
[12:44] <eck> and if xterm isn't the precedent i don't know what is
[12:45] <Caplain> iwconfig wlan0 ap (mac id)
[12:45] <Cretep50> ok will try thanks
[12:45] <VSpike> Seveas: sure the restricted modules are optional?
[12:45] <VSpike> surely
[12:45] <smallfoot-> well, a terminal should be black, else its just wrong
[12:45] <owh> smallfoot-: Actually, the only reason you think it should be black is because it was cheaper to produce black background CRT displays. The actual argument for a white background is that paper is white. It was too hard to produce in the earlier days of computing.
[12:45] <Pelo> VSpike,  if it's tied into something I don'T know , I thought you might jsut need to know how to uninstall somethig compiled from source
[12:45] <Lookazooka> smallfoot: kopete is the killer app for you then :)
[12:45] <Seveas> VSpike, sure, as is linux-generic (linux-image-generic holds the actual kernel metapackage)
[12:45] <smallfoot-> oh
[12:45] <smallfoot-> why?
[12:46] <Lookazooka> ..konsole, not kopete. sorry
[12:46] <VSpike> seveas: oh. so I can remove linux-generic?
[12:46] <Seveas> VSpike, correct
[12:46] <VSpike> what about linux?
[12:46] <Seveas> what about it?
[12:46] <owh> smallfoot-: As for the default, it's simply changed under Edit->Profiles->Colours.
[12:47] <arejay> anyone know how to set the label on a fat32 thumbdrive ?
[12:47] <bayziders> For some reason edgy is alot and I mean alot slower then dapper drake and it just started today. Does any one know how I can fix this?
[12:47] <eck> arejay: you can set it when you create the partition
[12:47] <Pelo> bayziders,  remove all the eyecandy
[12:47] <Pelo> ;-)
[12:48] <schwagner> Caplain, rock, glad to hear it.  What was the problem?
[12:48] <Pelo> bayziders,  seriously, check the system monitor , see what is eating up your resources
[12:48] <VSpike> Seveas: apparently linux depends on linux-generic
[12:48] <arejay> eck: hrm, gparted wouldnt let me?
[12:48] <owh> arejay: You can use mlabel to do that.
[12:49] <GekiBlue> I just got a new printer... If I plug it in... Will Ubuntu know it's there?
[12:49] <owh> arejay: It's part of mtools.
[12:49] <Seveas> VSpike, that just depends on linux-generic
[12:49] <Seveas> useless :)
[12:49] <arejay> owh, thanks so much :)
[12:49] <owh> GekiBlue: Try it and see :)
[12:49] <eck> GekiBlue: in theory, yes :-)
[12:49] <GekiBlue> owh: Okay, I will :)
[12:49] <Pelo> GekiBlue,   you probably need to set it up with  menu > system > admin > printers
[12:49] <VSpike> somehow removing linux and linux-generic feels like a really bad idea :) I mean, it just sounds like it rhymes with unbootable
[12:49] <GekiBlue> Oooooh. Thanks, Pelo
[12:49] <bayziders> Pelo: It was this slow before I installed any eye candy
[12:49] <PRAEDO> hello
[12:50] <bayziders> But only on this install
[12:50] <bayziders> it is very strange
[12:50] <PRAEDO> i have an old version of ubuntu on which apt-get doesn't have the autoremove feature
[12:50] <Seveas> PRAEDO, then look at debfoster
[12:50] <Enverex> VSpike, As long as you dont restart before installing new ones...
[12:50] <PRAEDO> how can i remove the gnome metapackage together with all the packages that were installed with it?
[12:50] <VSpike> Enverex: new what?
[12:51] <VSpike> I just want to remove the restricted modules
[12:51] <Seveas> Enverex, linux-generic and linux are just metapackages
[12:51] <Seveas> ditching those does not hurt
[12:51] <Enverex> Seveas, True, but unless you've told it to install the components, autoremove will remove them
[12:51] <barker> zPacKRat, in here :p
[12:51] <barker> http://pastebin.ca/443705
[12:51] <Seveas> Enverex, no
[12:52] <Seveas> Enverex, look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu
[12:52] <Christopher> I'm trying to get apache2 to run perl scripts with the .pl extension.
[12:52] <Christopher> Is there a way to accomplish this?
[12:53] <smallfoot-> Christopher, #apache
[12:53] <Seveas> Christopher, AddHandler cgi *.pl or something. Look in the apache docs for addhandler or in the mod_cgi config
[12:53] <smallfoot-> httpd.conf
[12:53] <Christopher> k, thanks
[12:53] <P3nnywise> I have wep wireless protection, where do i eneter the password? and i dont wanna us ethe network manager
[12:53] <Luiza> oi
[12:54] <zPacKRat> barker: what version of
[12:54] <darthbator> hey guys I am having a problem getting amarok to be able to write to my ipod
[12:54] <Caplain> schwagner, iwconfig wlan0 ap (ap mac addy)
[12:54] <jester626> My situation: I have a second hard drive (slave) in an XP box, I want to put it as a slave on my Ubuntu box. the HDD is formatted as NTFS and I don't want to lose the data. Any suggestions? Gooling only give me how to set up a dual boot system, which I don't want
[12:54] <Caplain> then dhclient wlan0
[12:54] <RedRose> My Audio Will not play at it's normal levels, IE as in windows. I have a laptop, so it's built in, but as soon as I run This command everything is normal. Can anyone help me simplify this process?
[12:54] <RedRose> Command: #kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:54] <schwagner> Caplain, glad it's working
[12:55] <darthbator> everything seems like it should be working the ipod is mounted /dev/sdd3 on /media/ipod type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[12:55] <darthbator> and the mount point should be writeable drwxr-xr-x  1 darthbator darthbator   17 2006-12-01 10:10 ipod
[12:55] <eck> jester626: i don't really understand your question, but the master/slave distinction doesn't really exist at the OS level. Linux will just see two drives with different device names, and you can do with them whatyou want
[12:55] <darthbator> but amarok gives me Media Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/ipod: Read-only file system
[12:56] <darthbator> when I attempt to connect to my ipod
[12:56] <Seveas> RedRose, the kill/lsof can be replaced with fuser -k /dev/dsp* etc...
[12:56] <robdeman> hi fol/join #subversion
[12:56] <jester626> eck:  so doing a fdisk -l displays the second drive as HDB and it is formatted as NTFS, So if I go in and mount it as NTFS then Ubuntu will see that data with no problems?
[12:56] <indianballer24>  is anyone here
[12:57] <VSpike> damn.. still can't intall the nvidia driver
[12:57] <Pelo> no we're are not here
[12:57] <indianballer24> does anyone know how to set up wireless internet
[12:57] <bayziders> I just installed the flash plug ins but youtube is telling me i dont have them installed what is wrong?
[12:57] <Pelo> !wireless | indianballer24
[12:57] <ubotu> indianballer24: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:57] <eck> jester626: yes
[12:57] <RedRose> Seveas, Is there any method i can use to implement this every time i boot my PC?
[12:57] <jester626> ok, will give it a try, just wanted to make sure before messing around with the HDD that has data on it
[12:58] <eck> jester626: if you want to be safe you can mount it read only, but i don't think it will be a problem
[12:58] <P3nnywise> Where do i enter WEP key?
[12:58] <indianballer24> i went to the website what do i click on
[12:58] <jester626> I just mounted it and when I go to /media/slave and try to access it, it tells me permission deined... go figure :)
[12:59] <eck> jester626: you can remount it with a different uid/gid
[12:59] <indianballer24> i went to the wireless website but i dont no my wat my wireless card is what do i do
[12:59] <eck> e.g. mount -o remount,uid=500,gid=500 /path/to/mountpoint
[12:59] <robdeman> hi folks, maybe anybody here can help.. the Subversion version of Ubuntu was too old... so I compiled Subversion from source and installed it -- now I want to remove / uninstall.. but how?
[01:00] <jester626> eck:  I don't understand what you mean
[01:00] <Pelo> indianballer24,  pull it out and read the lablel
[01:00] <soweto76> indianballer24, lspci
[01:00] <indianballer24> its a internal card
[01:00] <jrib> robdeman: how did you install it?
[01:00] <darthbator> anyone have any clue why amarok is convinced my ipod is a read only file system?
[01:00] <indianballer24> my wireless card is internal
[01:00] <robdeman> jrib: ./configure  then make  then make install
[01:00] <soweto76> indianballer24, lspci
[01:01] <jrib> robdeman: try 'make uninstall' from the source directory you compiled in, but it isn't guaranteed to exist.  If not, you can just delete everything manually.  In the future, consider checkinstall
[01:01] <jrib> !checkinstall > robdeman    (robdeman, see the private message from ubotu)
[01:01] <eck> jester626: ntfs volumes don't have provisions for unix style permissions, so the whole partition is mounted with the ownership of a single user/group
[01:02] <jester626> ok, so how can I change/fix this?
[01:02] <eck> jester626: if you remount the volume with the uid and gid of your account you will be able to read the data
[01:02] <waldo> hey-- can anyone help me figure out why my laptop suspends but won't wake up fully?
[01:03] <nervousystem> hi
[01:03] <jester626> the UID and GID of my Ubuntu Account?
[01:03] <eck> err, i think the uid and gid of the default user in ubuntu are both 1000
[01:03] <eck> yeah
[01:03] <Visti> Wasn't there an app that automatically added repos like PLF to Ubuntu?
[01:03] <jester626> ok, so what is the syntax to do that?
[01:03] <eck> jester626: you can check with: grep ^$(whoami) /etc/passwd
[01:03] <yell0w> !repos | Visti
[01:03] <ubotu> Visti: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:03] <eck> jester626: and then use the mount command i posted above with that uid and gid
[01:04] <Visti> !repos
[01:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:04] <robdeman> jrib: aah... thanks
[01:04] <Pelo> waldo,  suspend /hibernate is not all that great in ubuntu ( or linux in general I am told)   try looking for help in the forum,  check for your laptop model, there may be a fix in there
[01:04] <jester626> I dont see the syntax posted above, sorry
[01:05] <waldo> Pelo: I tried...   Can't find anything helpful...   blah
[01:05] <robdeman> how hard is it to compile Apache myself and replace the one that came with Ubuntu -- without breaking my current apache setup . config files/ etc ?
[01:05] <robdeman> so just replace the webserver istelf
[01:05] <jester626> I see it now
[01:05] <jester626> let me give it a try BRB
[01:05] <eck> robdeman: it should be pretty simple... just prefix it to /usr/local
[01:06] <hunterp> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:06] <hunterp> what is that?!?
[01:06] <robdeman> eck: ok - sp I apt-get remove apache2 ... and then compile it but what about the prefixing?
[01:06] <Jump86> is there a way to make the locate command retrieve results for other drives?
[01:06] <jester626> eck: sudo mount -o remount,uid=1000,gid=1000 /media/slave permission denied
[01:06] <Linuturk> how do I reset the configuration files for my openssh-server ?
[01:07] <Linuturk> er, how do I reset my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files?
[01:08] <VSpike> at the moment, my overall experience of linus seems to be nothing ever quite works, and when i think things are going well, something always breaks
[01:09] <ardchoille> VSpike: Have you used automatix or been installing debian .deb packages or have debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:09] <bayziders> This is really startign to piss me off, i installed all the flash plug ins and yet youtube will still not work
[01:09] <bayziders> what did I do wrong
[01:10] <Stormx2> bayziders: What problem are you having?
[01:10] <Stormx2> bayziders: Does firefox not find the flash plugin?
[01:10] <bayziders> Videos wont load on youtbue
[01:10] <bayziders> i installed it but it is like i didnt
[01:10] <Stormx2> Do you get the controls (play, reverse, etc)?
[01:10] <bayziders> No
[01:10] <bayziders> I get this error
[01:11] <bayziders>  			Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[01:11] <VSpike> ardchoille: I used automatix right after I first installed my system yeah, but that was a long time ago
[01:11] <Stormx2> bayziders: Which package have you installed?
[01:11] <VSpike> ardchoille: don't have any debian repos
[01:11] <ardchoille> VSpike: You have just discovered what may be the source of your problems.
[01:11] <bayziders> flash-nonfree and that didnt work so i installed flash-mozzila or something similar
[01:11] <Jump86> is there a way to make the locate command retrieve results for other drives? like indexing for search...
[01:12] <ardchoille> !automatix | VSpike
[01:12] <Stormx2> !flash | bayziders
[01:12] <Stormx2> nooo
[01:12] <Stormx2> UBOTU!
[01:12] <Stormx2> COME BACK!
[01:12] <bayziders> Hes broked
[01:12] <bayziders> !botsnack
[01:12] <Stormx2> ;__;
[01:12] <Stormx2> He's not here
[01:12] <bayziders> he's dead
[01:12] <eldude> hi
[01:12] <bayziders> ='(
[01:12] <eldude> hello
[01:12] <eldude> Was wondering if its possible to upgrade to KDE instead of gnome
[01:12] <eldude> without too much hastle
[01:12] <VSpike> ardchoille: yeah, I know the spiel.  Too late, I did it before I ever came here
[01:13] <eldude> or am i really going to have to get kubuntu or what ever
[01:13] <bayziders> go to synpac
[01:13] <Shootfast_> just install kdedesktop
[01:13] <ubotu> VSpike: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:13] <bayziders> search kde
[01:13] <bayziders> and install
[01:13] <ubotu> bayziders: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:13] <bayziders> Hes back
[01:13] <bayziders> =O
[01:13] <bayziders> !botsnack
[01:13] <ardchoille> VSpike: Ah, ok.
[01:13] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:13] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[01:13] <bayziders> Yay
[01:13] <Stormx2> damn you
[01:13] <VSpike> I'm thinking of doing a fresh install of feisty i must admit
[01:13] <VSpike> This machine is slow, and it shouldn't be
[01:14] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:14] <VSpike> Gonna be such a pita setting everything up again though
[01:14] <Shootfast_> Hey guys, i've just installed edgy on another computer of mine, and I get an odd problem.
[01:14] <Shootfast_> It just dumps me to a busybox shell
[01:14] <bayziders> !flash
[01:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:15] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:15] <bayziders> Why does installing the plug in in dapper work but not edgy
[01:15] <bayziders> i want to downgrade =/
[01:16] <VSpike> Why is automatix so dangerous, and why does the automatix site disagree with this channel about its safety
[01:16] <bayziders> !backports
[01:16] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[01:16] <elsinux> Hi everey body. Im running ubuntu edgy 6.10, I need to complie a new kernel with the envida drivers. When sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 xserver-xorg-dev ...  I get : nmet dependencies:
[01:16] <elsinux>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed ....
[01:16] <dibblego> !beryl
[01:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:16] <ardchoille> VSpike: Search the forums for automatix posts from last year, you'll see why.
[01:16] <wondering> Hmm, I'm in a class B subnet, but I need a DRBL server (which comes with its own DHCP server) to pretend like it is in a class C network so that the clients can be in a class C network.
[01:16] <wondering> How would I setup a server so that 10.0.30.34 maps to 192.168.100.1 or something?
[01:17] <echosyp> i just setup my new LCD tv as a monitor, and now my panel font is so tiny i can't read it?
[01:17] <echosyp> i adjusted the fonts in preferences to fix everything else
[01:17] <VSpike> how can I find out which package provides /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
[01:17] <echosyp> anyone have an idea?
[01:17] <VSpike> ardchoille: fair enough :)
[01:17] <ardchoille> VSpike: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
[01:17] <echosyp> Vspike, search for it
[01:17] <jester626> eck:  you still here?  found a nifty tool to take care of the problem, its called ntfs-3g, just thought I'd pass it on
[01:18] <echosyp> my windows fonts are tiny too
[01:18] <Visti> Can anyone running Feisty check if there's an app called klid-client in the repos? I was running Feisty, installed this and loved it, but I reverted to Edgy and now I can't find the  app or any mention of it..
[01:18] <echosyp> help!
[01:18] <ubuntu> hey Fr3ak, you here?
[01:18] <elsinux> where can I find the  g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) ?? for edgy ???
[01:19] <VSpike> reboot time
[01:19] <Shootfast_> install build-essential
[01:19] <bayziders> Stormx2 : I did every thing and it still wont work
[01:19] <echosyp> how do i fix my tiny font!?!?
[01:20] <foug> my taskbar keeps freezing. The clock and everything stops working, When I open a new application no tab for it appears. Anyone know what's cuasing this?
[01:20] <ubuntu> echosyp, font for what?
[01:20] <echosyp> everything
[01:20] <Shootfast_> elsinux - sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:20] <MrMakeveli> how can i check what my internal ip is? i tried looking through "networking" and "network tools" but didnt see anything
[01:20] <echosyp> all my apps have unreadable font cause its so tiny
[01:20] <ubuntu> did you try changing your language settings?
[01:21] <ardchoille> MrMakeveli: ifconfig
[01:21] <echosyp> no, its fine when the tv isn't plugged in
[01:21] <MrMakeveli> ard: i was totally thinking that but i thought that was just windows =p
[01:21] <dooglus> echosyp: change the dpi setting in fonts -> sub pixel
[01:21] <ardchoille> MrMakeveli: Different command in Windows I think
[01:21] <Shootfast_> its ipconfig for win
[01:21] <echosyp> k
[01:22] <MrMakeveli> yeah
[01:22] <MrMakeveli> hehe
[01:22] <redwyrm> I overwrote my swap with randomness using dd, then I ran mkswap on it. now it doesn't resume after hibernating (software suspend). what's going on?
[01:22] <ardchoille> Shootfast_: Yeah
[01:22] <MrMakeveli> depends on what os
[01:22] <MrMakeveli> but thats it most the time
[01:22] <Shootfast_> now i always type ifconfig in windows. :S
[01:22] <ardchoille> lol
[01:22] <IdleOne> LjL: may I msg you?
 with sudo apt-get install build-essential  ---  i get ---> build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev  Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:23] <echosyp> dooglus, its at its max
[01:23] <MrMakeveli> ok i'll go try ipconfig
[01:23] <Shootfast_> hmm... can you install libc6-dev ?
[01:23] <manny> hola
[01:24] <MrMakeveli> ard: its not letting me do 'ipconfig'
[01:24] <Shootfast_> thats coz ipconfig is windows
[01:24] <Bicchi> I am using the slab menu and would like to know how to I create a new entry?
[01:24] <manny> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:24] <elsinux>  <Shootfast_> libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed
[01:24] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: i thought that was true
[01:24] <swhalen> Hello, does anyone know how i can convert an ogg video?
[01:24] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: do you know what the command is?
[01:25] <LjL> IdleOne: no
[01:25] <Shootfast_> ok, so follow the tree and try libc6
[01:25] <echosyp> i increased the font size on all the options to their max, that worked for everything but the application windows and my panels
[01:25] <ax> anyone know how i get opengl development libraries? i thought i had them but this configure script isn't finding them
[01:25] <Shootfast_> MrMakeveli - which command do you need?
[01:25] <GekiBlue> When installing a new printer... How long should that little 'reading printer database' window stay up?
[01:25] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: i need to find my internal ip
[01:25] <MrMakeveli> !ip
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Shootfast_> ok, just type sudo ifconfig
[01:26] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: k i'll try ifconfig
[01:26] <moDumass> hey all, is there a pretty iCal alternative in ubuntu, the only one i seem to be able to find is evolution which requires all kinds of mail server info...
 libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed
[01:27] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: i guess its the "inet addr"? i dont hink it could be anything else
[01:27] <ardchoille> MrMakeveli: it is inet addr:
[01:28] <Shootfast_> yep :D
[01:28] <andre_> hey guys
[01:28] <MrMakeveli> ard: thank you. is there an easy way to scan what other addresses are occupied on the network?
[01:28] <echosyp> anyone have a diff. solution for my font problem
[01:28] <ardchoille> MrMakeveli: There may be, but I don't know them.
[01:28] <Shootfast_> well ifconfig will show you all the connections, use iwconfig for wireless
[01:29] <saik0> Why wouldnt dmraid be able to activate an array it recognizes as OK?
[01:29] <MrMakeveli> shootfast: hmm would there be multiple addresses under the inet part?
[01:29] <robdeman> hi folsk how do I remove apache2? apt-get remove apache2 ? what si the apckage name?
[01:29] <dealc> How do I have a seporate share?
[01:29] <Shootfast_> which device are you looking at? eth0?
[01:30] <echosyp> if he can't find his ip hes hopeless, lets move on to my problem
[01:30] <Shootfast_> well your problem befudles me too
[01:30] <redwyrm> robdeman, apache's package name is "apache2"
[01:30] <saik0> !coc
[01:30] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:31] <MrMakeveli> echo: wtf is your problem. i found my address and im looking to find what other comps on my networked are at
[01:31] <elsinux> Hi !!! I need to recompile my kernel with NVIDIA drivers, im on Ubuntu edgy 6.10. when build-essential i get libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev  Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <robdeman> redwyrm: It says 'Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed'
[01:31] <redwyrm> robdeman, there's also "apache2-common", "apache2-doc", and "apache2-utils"
[01:31] <ratshell> hi
[01:31] <redwyrm> robdeman, well, how did you install it?
[01:31] <robdeman> redwyrm: It came with Ubuntu 6.10 Server
[01:32] <MrMakeveli> shoot: i dont see any other addresses in there that fit the dhcp range thats set
[01:32] <GekiBlue> Okay... So I've got the printer working... but it's a combination scanner/printer, do I have to do anything special to get the scanner part to work? :3
[01:32] <redwyrm> robdeman, I would just do a search in Synaptic for "apache" and see what you have installed
[01:32] <Shootfast_> elsinux - can you just install gcc by itself?
[01:32] <robdeman> redwyrm: its commandline only -- but apache2-common did the trick!
[01:32] <saik0> elsinux, you can install the binary drivers as a package if it's easier for you
[01:32] <Shootfast_> MrMakevili - try refreshing your DHCP settings with sudo dhclient
[01:32] <haiba> hi, i use ubuntu 6.06, version 6.10 is better?
[01:32] <dealc> I have a question, How to I setup a secondary share on a main share?
[01:33] <Shootfast_> haiba - thats the idea behind version numbers...
[01:33] <raich> how to check md5 sums?
[01:33] <redwyrm> raich, md5sum <filename>
[01:33] <ardchoille> raich: md5sum file
[01:33] <p47> I have edgy running but before I could print the screen with the mouse and windows key... do you know why ?
[01:33] <DigitalDeviant> Anyone know how to print multiple pages in OpenOffice?
[01:33] <raich> ty man
[01:33] <Agrajag> haiba: if you're concerned with having the latest version, 7.04 should be out later this week
[01:34] <DigitalDeviant> Anyone know how to print multiple pages per sheet rather in OpenOffice?
[01:34] <dealc> Anyone known anything about samba?
[01:34] <elsinux> Shootfast: how can I install gcc by it self ? sorry :(
[01:34] <Shootfast_> tomorrow in fact...
[01:34] <Shootfast_> erm, i think its just apt-get install gcc
[01:34] <haiba> thanks, i'll using  version 7.04
[01:35] <Shootfast_> what package manager are you using (if any)? Synaptic or Adept or just command line?
[01:35] <elsinux> saik0: I couldn't find the binaris for this card ...
[01:35] <redwyrm> Shootfast_, Synaptic has always worked for me
[01:36] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone help me figure out why my secondary NIC card won't show up in ifconfig?
[01:36] <Shootfast_> redwyrm - yeah, but if he wasnt using a graphical manager, he wouldnt be able to actually see what was available
[01:37] <andre> hey gents how do you change your desktop so that all 3 desktops have different pics (wallpaper)
[01:37] <foug> when i restart x, ctrl+alt+backspace, what exactly am i doing?
[01:37] <wastrel> Jeeves_Moss:  the driver isn't loaded
[01:37] <Shootfast_> andre, only in kde
[01:37] <elsinux> Shootfast_: gcc is already the newest version.
[01:37] <Dybber> Is mathdesign.sty included in any of ubuntus texlive packages?
[01:37] <dooglus> foug: you're asking the X server to kill itself
[01:37] <Jeeves_Moss> wastrel:  how do I load it?
[01:37] <andre> really  ohh well
[01:37] <dooglus> foug: the display manager (gdm) notices it has died and restarts it
[01:37] <Shootfast_> eslinux - try just installing nvidia-glx
[01:37] <foug> dooglus: x server being what?
[01:37] <andre> is ubuntu kde descent
[01:37] <jcole> so, how does one enable dvd menu navigation in totem-gstreamer
[01:37] <Shootfast_> very :D
[01:37] <colbert> anyone here using lm-sensors? i am monitoring temp1 and temp2 but don't know which one is CPU and which is mobo
[01:38] <Jeeves_Moss> dooglus:  it's actully a shell access account.
[01:38] <dooglus> foug: the x server being the program which displays all the graphics - windows, toolbars, the mouse pointer, etc
[01:38] <foug> dooglus: ahh got'cha. I think we might have similar names, irl
[01:38] <elsinux> Shootfast : should I stop gdm an xserver before ?
[01:38] <dooglus> foug: you're called Chris as well?
[01:38] <Shootfast_> elsinux
[01:38] <Shootfast_> nope
[01:38] <foug> dooglus: nevermind, lol
[01:39] <dooglus> foug: ;)
[01:39] <Shootfast_> but after its all installed, press ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:39] <NOOSee> hey alguien que hable espaol?
[01:39] <Shootfast_> and you will see the nice nvidia splash
[01:39] <foug> dooglus: is there a limit on how many times i should restart x? it seems like a good quick way to restart my computer
[01:39] <elsinux> Shootfast_: ok downloading
[01:39] <ardchoille> !es | NOOSee
[01:39] <ubotu> NOOSee: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:39] <Shootfast_> elsinux - just as a side note, are you trying to get beryl?
[01:39] <dooglus> foug: if you do it too quickly, gdm will think that it's crashing on its own and refuse to restart it for you.  other than that, no problem.
[01:39] <foug> dooglus: thanks
[01:39] <dooglus> foug: of course, it doesn't restart the computer - just the graphical display
[01:40] <elsinux> Shootfast_: Setting up nvidia-glx (1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2) ...   ouuppss, are you a mind reader?
[01:40] <rob-west> !feisty
[01:40] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:41] <Shootfast_> elsinux - everyone wants beryl :D, but just so you know
[01:41] <elsinux> Shootfast_: ok  nvidia-glx (1.0.8776+2.6.17.7-11.2) done ....
[01:41] <Shootfast_> dont restart just yet
[01:41] <redwyrm> in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, can I have RESUME=LABEL=... instead of UUID?
[01:41] <elsinux>  Shootfast_: ok, what is the next steop 8)
[01:42] <ax> so, is there a problem compiling opengl apps if i'm using 64bit? anyone know why configure isn't finding opengl, i have
[01:42] <ax> libgl1-mesa-dev installed
[01:42] <Shootfast_> ok, hang on, just finding the  copmmand
[01:43] <wastrel> ....
[01:43] <Shootfast_> elsinux - now type sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[01:43] <haiba> how to i upgrade to ubuntu 7.04 from ubuntu 6.06LTS
[01:43] <pancho> hey
[01:44] <dudanogueira> !current
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about current - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <pancho> can i download cedega for free ?
[01:44] <Shootfast_> haiba - 7.04 isnt out yet :l
[01:44] <Shootfast_> tomorrow...
[01:44] <LDZ420> I recently had to re- install an the OS,  I am unable to access the some of my old files.  I have cp the file to different folders  I have made myself apart of the group, I have even made myself the owner of the folder and subfile and folders still give me permission issues
[01:44] <Shootfast_> pancho - trial yes
[01:44] <Agrajag> Shootfast_: tomorrow? I thought thursday
[01:44] <LDZ420> any help?
[01:44] <Shootfast_> pancho - try wine, its free
[01:45] <Shootfast_> for me tomorrow is thursday
[01:45] <Shootfast_> wait
[01:45] <Shootfast_> i mean, isnt it the 17th?
[01:45] <Agrajag> Shootfast_: whoa where are you?
[01:45] <Agrajag> Mars?
[01:45] <Shootfast_> lol
[01:45] <Agrajag> 19th, I thought
[01:45] <Shootfast_> i meant tomorrow is the 17yh
[01:45] <Shootfast_> shit
[01:45] <Agrajag> yes
[01:45] <pancho> yea but
[01:45] <Shootfast_> time to reset my hopes and dreams callender :(
[01:45] <elsinux> <Shootfast_ : 8) nvidia-kernel-common is already the newest version.
[01:45] <pancho> i can`t play my fav game with wine
[01:45] <pancho> i need cedega
[01:45] <VSpike> How can i list the files provided by a package?
[01:45] <Agrajag> pancho: what game?
[01:46] <pancho> ragnarok online
[01:46] <pancho> ever heard ?=
[01:46] <Shootfast_> elsinux - cool, now type sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[01:46] <jrib> VSpike: dpkg -L
[01:46] <m1r> evening
[01:46] <LDZ420> I understand that when why would it not let me preform these actions even if I am the owner of the folders?
[01:46] <slicslak> when i login, ubuntu seems to contact servers somewhere to check for updates.  the coprorate firewall here then blocks all further communication from my laptop.  how can i stop this?
[01:46] <Enverex> slicslak, The checking or the Firewall?
[01:46] <wo0lverine> hey !
[01:46] <m1r> can someone help with dsl service providing ?
[01:47] <MrMakevel1> anyone know of a command to check what ip addresses are currently being used on your network?
[01:47] <slicslak> Enverex, the checking
[01:47] <slicslak> i have no control over the firewall
[01:47] <elsinux> Shootfast_:  Using X configuration file:"/etc/X11/xorg.conf".Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" added toScreen "Default Screen".Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as'/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'New X configuration file written to'/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:47] <chowmeined> MrMakevel1: you could try using nmap
[01:47] <Shootfast_> MrMakevil - cant you see the active sesions on your router?
[01:48] <Enverex> slicslak, Under Administration > Software Sources
[01:48] <Comrade_Sergei> if i have a feisty cd can i use it to upgrade to it without reinstalling? (im on breezy)
[01:48] <MrMakevel1> chow, shoot: when i do ifconfig, i just see my ip address, i dont see any other active sessions
[01:48] <slicslak> Enverex, i'll try thanks
[01:48] <Shootfast_> elsinux - excelent! one more step! just kill x server (ctrl-alt-backspce) and sign back on here to report
[01:48] <MrMakevel1> chow: i'll try nmap
[01:48] <MrMakevel1> shoot: how do i view active sessions on the router?
[01:48] <Shootfast_> elsinux - you should see the nvidia splash
[01:48] <elsinux> Ok I hope I'll see you agiain
[01:48] <Shootfast_> go to your routers IP and look for an active sessions tab
[01:49] <Shootfast_> (in a browser)
[01:49] <Shootfast_> if your routers any cop that is...
[01:49] <MrMakevel1> chow: i tried nmap as a command it said command not found
[01:49] <chowmeined> MrMakevel1: something like... nmap -sP 192.168.1.1-254
[01:49] <Juanca> Hi. Anybody can help me, I'm trying to install windows to dual boot, but some problem doesn't let me, could that be some left over of ubuntu?
[01:49] <chowmeined> MrMakevel1: sudo aptitude install nmap
[01:49] <Shootfast_> Juanca - what version of ubuntu and which windows
[01:49] <chowmeined> MrMakevel1: it also does port scans
[01:49] <MrMakevel1> shoot: i know how to access my router, i've done port forwarding and small stuff before (dmz, etc)
[01:50] <Shootfast_> what router?
[01:50] <Juanca> Shootfast_: windows xp pro, and ubuntu 6.10
[01:50] <MrMakevel1> chow: great, i'll install now, thats sounding like it will do the trick, because the dchp is set from 100-199
[01:50] <MrMakevel1> 192.168.0.100-199
[01:50] <Shootfast_> Juanca - what is installed to which drives?
[01:50] <robdeman> hi folks I compiled Apache 2.2.4 .. did a make install... but /etc/inid.d/apache start ---> nothing happens?
[01:50] <Shootfast_> or partitionms
[01:50] <robdeman> hi folks I compiled Apache 2.2.4 .. did a make install... but /etc/inid.d/apaches start ---> nothing happens?
[01:50] <chowmeined> MrMakevel1: as long as they allow pings that should work.. if not you need to find a port they all have open (ssh?) and test for that
[01:50] <slicslak> Enverex, there is no software sources...
[01:50] <Comrade_Sergei> if i have a feisty cd can i use it to upgrade to it without reinstalling? (im on breezy)
[01:51] <robdeman> I mean /etc/init.d/apache2 start --> nothing happens
[01:51] <slicslak> Enverex, or perhaps i'm looking in the wrong place?  i was just looking under the menus.
[01:51] <wastrel> Comrade_Sergei:  no
[01:51] <MrMakevel1> chow: the comp should have all ports open, i know they dont do anything with their comp besides browse and stuff
[01:52] <MrMakevel1> chow: although they may have some gay norton shiz
[01:52] <Comrade_Sergei> wastrel ok when i try to install it says stuff about how my session has lasted less than 10 seconds and whatnot?
[01:52] <wastrel> is feisty released yet?
[01:52] <Comrade_Sergei> wastrel not for another 4 days
[01:52] <gnomefreak> wastrel: no later this week (near end of week)
[01:52] <Shootfast_> Juanca - windows only likes to be installed on the first partition, after thats done, install ubuntu to another partition and grub will do the rest
[01:53] <wastrel> #ubuntu+1 for feisty help Comrade_Sergei
[01:53] <Comrade_Sergei> ty
[01:53] <elsinux> Shoot: Im back of the darkest side 8)
[01:53] <Visti> How can I make sure I'm not running something as root?
[01:53] <wastrel> Visti:  prompt is $ for non-root  # for root
[01:53] <Shootfast_> elsinux - great! did it work?
[01:53] <Visti> wastrel: Ah, thanks!
[01:53] <elsinux> I culdn't see the vidia logo
[01:53] <Juanca> Shootfast_: No one. I've installed ubuntu partitioning the disk in 3, but after that I thought it'll be better if I dual boot, and with Gparted, using the live CD errased the partitons, then I take out the cd and tried to install and partition with windows, but it didn't.
[01:53] <Visti> Is there a command to logout of root?
[01:53] <richiefrich>  i have a simple question im on edgy and  i do .. sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start .. and it wont start no errors in dmesg .. and when i do  ps auxf | grep ssh .. the server is not started ..   is there something i must  *unlock* or change i have a default config
[01:53] <chowmeined> Visti: exit
[01:54] <chowmeined> Visti: logout works too
[01:54] <Visti> Thanks, guys.
[01:54] <ardchoille> wastrel: I haven't seen a "#" prompt in years.
[01:54] <elsinux> Shoot: how to know if the aceleretion is working ??
[01:54] <richiefrich> might i need something in   /etc/hosts.allow?
[01:55] <Shootfast_> elsinux - well it your seeing the xserver, things worked (nvidia-xconfig changes your xorg.conf)
[01:55] <chowmeined> richiefrich: no.. is there anything in /varl/log/daemon.log?
[01:55] <wastrel> richiefrich:  do you have openssh-server installed?
[01:55] <Shootfast_> but to test, try glxgears
[01:55] <richiefrich> chowmeined: no
[01:55] <chowmeined> richiefrich: /var/log/daemon.log
[01:55] <richiefrich> wastrel: yeah
[01:55] <Juanca> Shootfast_: Before this I've made a NTFS partition left blank for Installing windows afterwards. But somebody suggested me it's better if I partitioned the disk with windows first
[01:55] <richiefrich> chowmeined: let me look
[01:55] <elsinux> shoot: Great, 8), so next step is to install Beryl isn't it ??
[01:56] <Shootfast_> Juanca - yeah, windows sometimes doesnt like the ubutnu made ntfs partitions
[01:56] <Juanca> Shootfast_: Ok, but now wondows doesn't run
[01:56] <Shootfast_> Juanca - boot live cd and format entire drive
[01:56] <Juanca> Shootfast_: how do I do that
[01:56] <Juanca> Shootfast_: I'm in the live cd now
[01:57] <Juanca> windows installer doesn't run but ubuntu does
[01:57] <Shootfast_> Juanca - boot from ubuntu cd, then run Gparted (its in System, Administration, Gnome Partiton editor)
[01:57] <Shootfast_> elsinux - yep, it all should work straight away
[01:57] <Juanca> Shootfast_: I know, thats what I did before
[01:57] <Juanca> Shootfast_: what next?
[01:58] <fakyamamoto> howdy
[01:58] <Shootfast_> Juanca - what does the windows disk say when you boot from it?
[01:59] <richiefrich> chowmeined: http://pastebin.ca/443776
[01:59] <richiefrich> chowmeined: i dont seee nothing
[01:59] <chowmeined> richiefrich: neither do i
[02:00] <richiefrich> chowmeined: you think if i reinstall it it might work?
[02:00] <chowmeined> richiefrich: and port 22 isnt listed in netstat?
[02:00] <rob-west> can gnome run on 128MB ram
[02:00] <richiefrich> chowmeined: correct
[02:00] <Shootfast_> Juanca - to format entire drive - click device then setdisk lable
[02:00] <Juanca> Shootfast_: It start normally, but after the initial checking the screen gets black and an error message appears in a blue screen saying windows stopped to avoid damaging the disck and blal blah blah
[02:01] <chowmeined> richiefrich: try reinstalling it
[02:01] <NkZ> Greetings
[02:01] <richiefrich> chowmeined: it is  openssh-server  .. corect
[02:01] <Juanca> Shootfast_: Ok, what do I shoose?
[02:01] <richiefrich> chowmeined: or just openssh
[02:01] <Shootfast_> Juanca - msdos
[02:01] <TaZCorp> hello
[02:01] <linxeh> is there any midi system exclusive software packaged for ubuntu ?
[02:01] <chowmeined> richiefrich: openssh-server
[02:01] <richiefrich> ty chowmeined
[02:02] <snowpunk98> How do I create the lowest level user from the command line
[02:02] <snowpunk98> No sudo rights no nothing just login and use whats there
[02:02] <NkZ> I got a question, back in "Win" I had tools to defragment my HD, But In Ubuntu I can't find this. Does that mean that I do not need to Defrag on ubu?
[02:02] <Juanca> Shootfast_: ready, should I try now to install windows?
[02:03] <linxeh> NkZ: linux filesystems dont need defragmenting
[02:03] <linxeh> NkZ: nor do most other modern operating systems actually
[02:03] <Shootfast_> yeah, to be safe, during the install, windows will ask you if you want to partition the drive. say yes to avoid re-sizing later (that causes big problems and takes ages to do)
[02:03] <NkZ> Linxeh: Thanks :-) I didn't know. That's awesome, saves me a lot of time. :-)
[02:04] <wastrel> snowpunk98:  sudo adduser newuserid
[02:04] <Shootfast_> NkZ - the beauty of journeled file systems
[02:04] <Juanca> Shootfast_: Ok, I will. But How do I leave another partition for ubuntu?
[02:04] <NkZ> Shootfast: Yeah, Ubu never ceases to amaze me, I love this thing.
[02:04] <MrMakevel1> hey guys, if you do a <command> $     it runs in the background, right?
[02:05] <wastrel> MrMakevel1:  & not $
[02:05] <richiefrich> chowmeined: heh its fine now .. why does that happen do you have any ideas?
[02:05] <MrMakevel1> wastrel: thanks. and do you happen to know if you can append something else on there to make it open in a new window/terminal?
[02:05] <alexnb185> guys when it says "uname -r" for a terminal commend.. what exactly do I enter
[02:05] <chowmeined> richiefrich: i am not sure
[02:05] <NkZ> Thanks a lot for the help guys
[02:05] <richiefrich> chowmeined: personally i use arch but im helping a friend
[02:05] <MrMakevel1> wastrel: im trying to leave the man pages open while i work on it
[02:05] <richiefrich> chowmeined: ok ty though
[02:06] <NkZ> Have a good nite (Well, nite over here at least.)
[02:06] <Shootfast_> it will ask you to install to a drive and then it says something like press p to partition (thats probably not the key but just read everything) then make a partition by entering how big you want it (in mb). It will leave the rest blank and you can later install ubuntu to that
[02:06] <Flannel> alexnb185: just that.
[02:06] <eck> MrMakevel1: you can run it in a screen session and the detach and reattach it from another terminal
[02:06] <alexnb185> well like if my name is alex i put "alex -r"??
[02:06] <MrMakevel1> eck: how would i do that?
[02:06] <Flannel> alexnb185: no no.  uname
[02:06] <alexnb185> uname -r
[02:06] <eck> MrMakevel1: apt-get install screen
[02:06] <alexnb185> ?
[02:06] <zootm> alexnb185: yes
[02:06] <Flannel> alexnb185: right.  In whatever quotes were in the original
[02:06] <alexnb185> then why do they put the quotes?
[02:06] <Juanca> Shootfast_:Ok, thank you. You will see me here again if it doesn't work :)
[02:07] <alexnb185> oh wait
[02:07] <spheard> Hi, Ive just reinstalled vista on my dual boot edgy laptop
[02:07] <Flannel> alexnb185: because you're escaping it and using it as a part of a string
[02:07] <wastrel> MrMakevel1:  if you're using gnome-terminal you can do    gnome-terminal -e "some command"
[02:07] <MrMakevel1> or should i just run multiple terminals?
[02:07] <Shootfast_> haha, yeah, hope it works. Have fun with the 1 hour windows install :D
[02:07] <alexnb185> so if ther command is blah blah blah /"uname -r"/
[02:07] <alexnb185> that is exactly what i put
[02:07] <Flannel> alexnb185: yes
[02:07] <MrMakevel1> wastrel: perfect, is that a new terminal that opens?
[02:07] <alexnb185> oh ok
[02:07] <wastrel> MrMakevel1:  it will open in a new terminal window and close after the command is finished
[02:07] <alexnb185> also when it says <kernel-version> what do I enter.. just that
[02:08] <MrMakevel1> i think thats what i want, is there a way to make it stay open?
[02:08] <eck> MrMakevel1: it sort of depends. screen is fairly complicated to learn, but the advantage is that you can detach and reattach sessions, so for example you can have a bunch of applications open in ssh, detach you session and go do something else, and then later reattach and start whreeyou were before
[02:08] <redwyrm> after formatting my swap partition, what do I have to update to allow hibernation to work again?
[02:09] <wastrel> MrMakevel1:  pipe it through less maybe
[02:09] <eck> redwyrm: just make sure that the entry for swap in /etc/fstab is correct
[02:09] <elsinux> Shoot: Everything is deam good !! Thks, I'll pass this tutorial with GNU phylosofy!!
[02:09] <MrMakevel1> eck: hmm. i think i'll  save it in my notes because it sounds like i could use that down the road. however im still beginning in these lil experiments so im not quite at that level yet. haha
[02:09] <alexnb185> if i am given the command... ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build... for "<kernel-version>" do I enter just that... witht eh exception of the word version the 2nd time
[02:09] <wastrel> i dunno
[02:09] <Visti> I can't figure out how to change brush size in Gimp..
[02:09] <Shootfast_> elsinux - enjoy your wobbly windows :p
[02:09] <redwyrm> eck, that isn't enough. I also updated /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, and even that wasn't enough
[02:09] <eck> MrMakevel1: well later on it might be useful. at work i have a screen session that has been running for weeks now... every day when i leave i detach it, and when i come in i reattach
[02:10] <Shirakawasuna> hey, ubuntu has a searchable online repo site, doesn't it?
[02:10] <MrMakevel1> eck: yeah that makes a lot of sense
[02:10] <Shirakawasuna> I'd like to figure out what the current default kernel version is
[02:10] <IdleOne> packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <Shootfast_> Now its my turn to ask for help :P
[02:10] <beg1689> no me
[02:10] <Flannel> Shootfast_: for which ubuntu version?
[02:10] <Shootfast_> Edgy
[02:11] <mikedoty> I have a small, impressing (as in, "not pressing") question about ubuntu (or perhaps gnome maybe?).  the file browser thing (when you browse a folder or such) seems to take a while to open. Are there any alternative options that might be faster to use?
[02:11] <Flannel> Shootfast_: sorry.  Bad nick complete.  But, you should just ask your question.
[02:11] <MrMakevel1> hey the whole "-e <command>" in terminal didnt open a new window. it says unknown
[02:11] <eck> redwyrm: and you are able to use the new swap space currently? e.g. if you run free the swap space shows up?
[02:11] <Shootfast_> im installing it on my Media PC, and I get a weird error and dumped into a busybox shell
[02:11] <Flannel> Shirakawasuna: packages.ubuntu.com, but that'll be the current one.  If you want the one that is on the CD, you'll want to look at the .list file for your CD
[02:11] <clietz_> alexnb185: it would look like /linux-2.x.xx-xx/lib/modules/etc
[02:11] <alexnb185> well what do the x's stand for.. and how do i find that
[02:12] <Shirakawasuna> Flannel: I'm helping someone get their sound working (never used ubuntu).  Looks like they need to update their kernel + alsa (they're using dapper).  What's the best way to do that?
[02:12] <clietz_> in a terminal you can type uname -a to get your version number
[02:12] <Shirakawasuna> Flannel: I've only used rolling release distros
[02:12] <Flannel> Shirakawasuna: Update to what?  Newer major versions? or just the current version of their kernel?
[02:12] <MTecknology> Is there any way to make Gaim receive messages that people send me while i'm offline? I have how MSN does that BS.
[02:12] <redwyrm> eck, yes. I tried rebooting as well: the new swap partition is used normally, according to the free command.
[02:12] <MrMakevel1> who was it who told me about the -e command for ghome terminal?
[02:12] <vega`> ??
[02:12] <Shirakawasuna> Flannel: well, it looks like the dapper package is 2.6.15.  I don't use ubuntu so I dont know if you can update it without switching to edgy :)
[02:12] <Shootfast_> cant remember the particulars, but its something like invalig Job id
[02:13] <Shirakawasuna> Flannel: whatever way's the best in your opinion (I'd say just getting edgy)
[02:13] <Flannel> Shirakawasuna: if you want to upgrade to like 2.6.17 (or whatever) then no.  You'll need to upgrade to edgy.  He can update his 2.6.15 though
[02:13] <Shootfast_> other people got it when grub was pointing to the wrong UUID, however mine seems fine
[02:13] <MrMakevel1> Shootfast_: werent you telling me about e in ghome-terminal?
[02:13] <ajehuk> Shirakawasuna = your not trying to upgrade your way out of a problem are you
[02:13] <Shirakawasuna> Flannel: he wants to upgrade to that, yes
[02:13] <Shirakawasuna> ajehuk: yes, it's an alsa problem
[02:13] <Shootfast_> MrMakevel1, nah, that was someone else
[02:13] <Flannel> !upgrade | Shirakawasuna
[02:13] <ubotu> Shirakawasuna: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <Shirakawasuna> that's exactly how you solve them half the time ;)
[02:13] <redwyrm> MrMakevel1, are you escaping any bad characters in the command?
[02:14] <ajehuk> Shirakawasuna - I assume you have run the alsaconfig application?
[02:14] <eck> redwyrm: and you updated the initrd.gz as well?
[02:14] <redwyrm> like space or quote marks
[02:14] <redwyrm> eck, no. I didn't know about that. how would I update it?
[02:14] <MrMakevel1> red: what do you mean? im trying to just open a command in a new window. i want to have the man pages open while i work on a command
[02:15] <ubuntu> hello?
[02:15] <ubuntu> Can anyone help me?
[02:15] <ajehuk> go ubuntu
[02:15] <redwyrm> MrMakevel1, xterm -e man xterm
[02:15] <redwyrm> does that work?
[02:15] <Flannel> !ask | ubuntu
[02:15] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:15] <ubuntu> 2 things, I just installed it fine, but I don't have internet, Like I do while using the live CD
[02:15] <eck> redwyrm: that is the thing that actually checks for the hibernate partition as the kernel is loaded. i think if you just run update-initramfs it will do it, but i have never actually done it myself before
[02:15] <ajehuk> Shirakawasuna - have you run alsaconf?
[02:16] <ubuntu> The other thing is, I can't get my usb keyboard to work in grub
[02:16] <MrMakevel1> redwyrm: is that a different terminal than gnome-terminal?
[02:16] <eck> as usual, read the man page :-)
[02:16] <redwyrm> MrMakevel1, yes. I don't use gnome-terminal much, so I was unsure about it
[02:16] <ajehuk> ubuntu - the grub issue may well be related to usb support for keyboards in your bios...
[02:16] <Shootfast_> Ok, my problem is this - after booting i get "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:16] <eck> MrMakevel1: the gnome help viewer (yelp
[02:17] <ubuntu> Ok, that could be it, I just installed a new Mobo
[02:17] <eck>  is also useful for viewing man pages... try searching for man:man
[02:17] <ajehuk> ubuntu - as for network issue we could take a look at that - is your ubunut pc a different one to the one you are using now?
[02:17] <ubuntu> Nope, Im on a live CD now
[02:18] <ubuntu> Same comptuer
[02:18] <MrMakevel1> eck: yelp   in gnome-terminal and now i cant get out
[02:18] <MrMakevel1> haha
[02:18] <clietz_> shootfast - are you dropping into busybox after the error you are seeing?
[02:18] <eck> MrMakevel1: you have to close it (or suspend it)
[02:18] <ajehuk> ubuntu - fair enough -that'l make it harder to solve, but lets have a go - is the connection a wired one or a woreless one?
[02:18] <eck> MrMakevel1: you can open it from system > help and support
[02:18] <Shirakawasuna> ajehuk: yes, it's a known issue
[02:18] <ubuntu> Wired
[02:19] <ajehuk> Shirakawasuna : fair enough.
[02:19] <Shirakawasuna> ajehuk: there wasn't support for the card in alsa-1.0.10/kernel-2.6.15 :)
[02:19] <Shirakawasuna> ajehuk: thanks, though!
[02:19] <py_geek> hey all!
[02:19] <ubuntu> hi there!
[02:19] <mag_> do you know why I can't to select the peace of desktop tht I want to pint or save in a bmp ? before I stalled edgy I could
[02:19] <Shootfast_> clietz- yes
[02:19] <MrMakevel1> eck
[02:20] <eck> MrMakevel1: if you want to background a process you can hit ctrl-z in a shell and then type bg
[02:20] <eck> it will be like you ran it with &
[02:20] <RedRose> How can I create a module from an already existing one? I.E. The Toshiba ACPI support?
[02:20] <TaZCorp> anyone knows how to make my lexmark 5400 series working on edgy?
[02:20] <clietz_> shootfast - i was getting that error after upgrading to feisty.
[02:20] <py_geek> okay, simple question-
[02:20] <py_geek> how do I write the contents of a folder (data) to a dvd?
[02:20] <eck> py_geek: the easiest way is to use nautilus cd burner or some other graphical cd burning program
[02:20] <MrMakevel1> eck: let me put it this way, i want to open my man pages in another window so i can view them and work at the same time. any recommendations on how to do that?
[02:20] <Shootfast_> this is a fresh install of edgy
[02:20] <py_geek> eck- how do i do that?
[02:21] <Shootfast_> (and as a side note, it happens with dapper, edgy and feisty :S)
[02:21] <eck> py_geek: places > cd creator
[02:21] <eck> py_geek: then drag the files into that window
[02:21] <redwyrm> eck, I'm going to see if "sudo update-initramfs -u" did the job, brb :)
[02:21] <clietz_> shootfast- none of the workarounds i saw online worked, i checked the uuid and it matched.
[02:21] <eck> MrMakevel1: i would just open two terminals, and use one for work and the other for man pages
[02:21] <TaZCorp> anyone knows how to make my lexmark 5400 series working on edgy? atleast the printer ?
[02:22] <Shootfast_> clientz - same :(
[02:22] <clietz_> shootout - however, once i upgraded to 2.6.20-15 i haven't had any problems.
[02:23] <MrMakevel1> eck: i was hoping i could do it from a command inside the gnome-terminal, but alas i guess i can just open too
[02:23] <Shootfast_> how can i update though when it wont boot?
[02:23] <chowmeined> what do you guys think about using xfs?
[02:23] <eck> MrMakevel1: if you want to view the man page and do work at the same time you would need two windows... of course you can also open multiple tabs in gnome-terminal
[02:23] <Shootfast_> I tried updating on the live dc, but it failed as there were to many downloads and filled the ram disk
[02:23] <eck> chowmeined: i have had positive experiences with it, but you should know its limitations
[02:23] <redwyrm> eck, it worked! thanks!
[02:23] <clietz_> shootout - what do you have for your video driver?
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> i dig the new layout of the site
[02:24] <MrMakevel1> is there a command to open a new terminal?
[02:24] <chowmeined> eck: it has limitations?
[02:24] <eck> chowmeined: for example, it does not store bad block information
[02:24] <chowmeined> eck: dont hard drives do that?
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> may i ask if/which CMS powers it?
[02:24] <Shootfast_> its an nvidia card using the "nv" driver as its a fresh install
[02:24] <lakcaj> MrMakevel1, gnome-terminal?
[02:24] <eck> chowmeined: it is stored in the inodes in ext3
[02:24] <chowmeined> oh
[02:25] <RedRose> How can I create a module from an already existing one(to get a .mo)? I.E. The Toshiba ACPI support? Do I have to rebuild the kernel?
[02:25] <clietz_> shootout - ok that's good.  can you drop into an older working kernel by hitting esc during the boot sequence?
[02:25] <Shootfast_> nope, coz as its a fresh install, it only has the base kernel
[02:25] <MrMakevel1> lakcaj: yes
[02:25] <clietz_> shootout - doh!  sorry, missed that.
[02:25] <lakcaj> MrMakevel1, have you tried the command gnome-terminal?
[02:25] <eck> chowmeined: it is probably not an issue, but i have an old computer with a 7 or 8 year old hdd that has some bad sectors, and i use ext3 on it for that reason. also, i would probably trust the ext2/3 fsck tools more as far as recovering data is concerned
[02:25] <Shootfast_> i might see if i can just update the kernel from the live cd and install
[02:26] <eck> chowmeined: the performance increase for xfs is definitely noticeable over ext2/3 though
[02:26] <MrMakevel1> lakcaj: haha seems like that'd work. i just dont see how i cant do a command and add a lil option or & or w/e to have it open in another window
[02:26] <clietz_> shootout - good idea, the latest version has worked for me and i was able to get the nvidia driver finally working without issue.
[02:27] <RedRose> !toshiba
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toshiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <Shootfast_> nvidia drivers never been an issue to install - just an issue to use as the newest one is buggier than insect hell
[02:27] <eck> chowmeined: i also read that kernel.org is going to migrate to it at some point, so apparently they think it is pretty good too
[02:27] <MrMakevel1> ctrl-shift-t  will just have to do it to open a new tab in gnome-terminal
[02:28] <corden> hello guys just back
[02:28] <eck> chowmeined: here is the article http://lwn.net/Articles/216948/
[02:28] <aaron> How do I configure my laptops keyboard shortcuts like brightness (function key + arrow keys)
[02:28] <corden> how do i install other distro using vmware? i already installed it using synaptic. tnx
[02:28] <ubuntu> Hey, ajehuk, did you fall off the edge of the world?
[02:29] <Shootfast_> aaron - they usually work by default, try booting kernel with acpi
[02:29] <chowmeined> eck: thank you
[02:29] <beg1689> corden
[02:29] <corden> hello beg1689
[02:29] <nickub> wazz up chaters
[02:30] <beg1689> corden: for vmware player, the easiest thing to do is grab a premade one, or find a way to make your own
[02:30] <treyh0> what happened to the old website that ran on plone for ubuntu.com?
[02:30] <TaZCorp> anyone knows how to make my lexmark 5400 series working on edgy? atleast the printer ?
[02:30] <beg1689> hmm i forget where they were...
[02:31] <corden> oic, no idea where to get one or how to create my own :)
[02:31] <Shootfast_> clientz - I just remembered that i had tried feisty and dapper too, both which failed with different kernels
[02:32] <chjunior> to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04, an update-manager -d should resolve, right?
[02:32] <moDumass> hmmm, somehow i have removed the ability to rotate my desktop cube with keyboard.. <ctrl><alt>Left or Right dont work, any ideas?
[02:33] <moDumass> with correct case though
[02:33] <Shootfast_> moDumass - middle mouse
[02:34] <Shootfast_> hang on, logging in on other machine
[02:34] <Shootfast_> quit
[02:34] <moDumass> shootfast middle mouse does nothing
[02:34] <chowmeined> eck: what about jfs?
[02:35] <clietz_> shootout - for feisty (on one machine i have) only 2.6.17-10 and 2.6.20-15 did not give me the boot/busybox error.
[02:35] <moDumass> Shootfast no ssorry your right it does work, but why would my direction keys not work anymore?
[02:36] <eck> chowmeined: from what i remember, the performance isn't that great and it's been basically in maintenance mode for several years now. it has the lowest cpu usage of any of the filesystems though
[02:36] <Shootfaster> moDumbass - maybe the gnome shortcuts have been disabled?
[02:36] <Shootfaster> try System>>>Preferences>>>Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:37] <chowmeined> eck: oh ok
[02:37] <moDumass> shootfaster, in beryl manager theyre there, is there somewhere else i could have accidentaly turned them ofdf?
[02:37] <eck> chowmeined: i think as far as performance is concerned xfs probably has the lead, but that might change when ext4 comes out
[02:37] <Shootfaster> moDumbass - try the gnome shortcuts
[02:38] <chowmeined> eck: I hear xfs is fully multithreaded is ext4 going to implement something like that?
[02:38] <dad> jmn
[02:38] <dad> name earl
[02:38] <moDumass> shootfaster in system>preferances>shoertcuts there is no gnome shortcuts option
[02:39] <eck> chowmeined: i'm not sure, there hasn't been very much information about it since it was announced
[02:39] <corden> guys how to bring back the ubuntu boot loader grub? cause i want to remove the other distro, but the boot loader i have now was the boot loader of that distro. tnx
[02:39] <Shootfaster> maybe someone has joined who can help with this problem - booting up leaves me at a Busybox prompt with the message /bin/sh; cant access tty: job control turned off
[02:39] <Shootfaster> moDumbass - are you running Gnome or KDE?
[02:39] <odat> whats going on with the nvidia driver
[02:39] <odat> my card was supported now its not
[02:39] <ubuntu> I have a question. when I am on a live cd (like now) I can get the internet, but If I boot of my harddrive, I Do not
[02:40] <moDumass> Shootfaster Gnome
[02:40] <Shootfaster> odat - use the legacy driver than
[02:40] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> :o
[02:40] <odat> Shootfaster, legacy doesn't support glx
[02:41] <Shootfaster> odat -  that really sucks... can you go through the old releases on the nvidia website?
[02:41] <Shootfaster> moDumbass - try resinstalling gnome-desktop
[02:41] <odat> Shootfaster, do they have debs there?
[02:41] <chjunior> how to make the File Manager looks better? with the sidebar for example?
[02:42] <Shootfaster> odat - nope, you'll have to compile it from source from the command line without an xserver, but its pretty straight forward
[02:42] <eck> chowmeined: i think there is more of a focus on features for ext4, rather than performance
[02:42] <chjunior> that simple display is not enough for me... every folder that I open it open a new window
[02:44] <Shootfaster> odat - its just a script you have to run
[02:44] <m4st3r> Hi all
[02:44] <Shootfaster> hi M4st3r
[02:45] <quigonjinn23> whats up in here?
[02:45] <forQed> Quick Wine Question, I have Diablo II installed but when trying to install the expansion it is not detected, any suggestions?
[02:45] <Shootfaster> is there any guides on the wine app db
[02:46] <forQed> not that I have found, it is listed under their platinum apps usually meaning there are no hoops to jump through
[02:47] <Answer> How do I switch video drivers between xserver-xorg-video-i810 and xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[02:47] <Shootfaster> Answer - change the drive in your xorg.conf
[02:47] <nickreynolds> hi al
[02:47] <Kendrick_> might any one have a default xinitrc  or some info on how to get a semi normal x on the server version
[02:48] <Shootfaster> Answer *driver... not drive... that could be bad
[02:49] <ubuntuluver> Hey!  I have a little problem with opening folders with something different than 'open folder'
[02:49] <Shootfaster> Answer - for an easy way - type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <Answer> Shootfaster: but i already edited xorgconf
[02:49] <nickreynolds> how do i share files  between ubuntu and xp pro
[02:49] <ubuntuluver> I want to use 'open with' tab to selection thunar to open my folders with
[02:49] <ubuntuluver> but it doesn't let me change it
[02:49] <ubuntuluver> Is this a common issue maybe?
[02:50] <Combat> Question I'm new to Ubuntu and sound is not working
[02:50] <Combat> I''m running ubuntu 5.10
[02:50] <nickreynolds>  how do i share files between xp pro and ubuntu
[02:51] <quigonjinn23> first wtf is ubuntu?
[02:51] <flowbot> nickreynolds: samba ... there's a walkthrough somewhere ... i try to find
[02:51] <Shootfaster> combat - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:51] <nickreynolds> i have it it
[02:51] <nickreynolds> and its running
[02:51] <wastrel> !ubuntu | quigonjinn23
[02:51] <ubotu> quigonjinn23: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:51] <nickreynolds> but when i try to access it from xp
[02:51] <nickreynolds> it brings up an authentication window
[02:51] <ubuntuluver> Can some body help me change the program I use to browse folders in ubuntu?
[02:51] <nickreynolds> username and password don't work
[02:52] <flowbot> nickreynolds: did you add the windows users as samba users? i suggest following this guide to get all functionality from ubuntu > windows and windows > ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=windows+shared+printer
[02:53] <vik> Is there going to be a feisty RC?
[02:53] <BFTD> Hi, when feisty comes, whats the best way to upgrade other then removing edgy and reinstalling?
[02:53] <flowbot> works a charm for me, and gives me access to ubuntu shares from windows xp
[02:53] <Shootfaster> ubuntuluver - im looking into ir
[02:53] <kbreit> Is there a way I can non-destructively make one partition smaller and one partition larger?
[02:53] <wastrel> !upgrade | BFTD
[02:53] <ubotu> BFTD: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:53] <Shootfaster> ubuntuluvr - http://assente.altervista.org/it/use_thunar_as_default_gnome_file_manager/
[02:54] <Ubuntuvoice> QT partition or if you have a few bucks,  Acronis Disk director = Is there a way I can non-destructively make one partition smaller and one partition larger?
[02:56] <Ubuntuvoice> BFTD:  Look into distribution upgrade through synaptic.
[02:56] <py_geek> hi all!
[02:56] <ubuntuluver> Wow, this looks complicated but I figure I can figure it out
[02:56] <Ubuntuvoice> BFTD:  Not apt-get.   I read somewhere that is the second best way.
[02:56] <ubuntuluver> Thanks for the link, shootfaster, I'm gonna go see if I can get it working :)
[02:56] <Ubuntuvoice> BFTD:  apt-get .... may get stuck
[02:57] <py_geek> how do you use/open the ubuntu cd creator (whatever its called)???
[02:57] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: its nautulis cd burner and its just like windows
[02:57] <py_geek> how do i access it ubuntuvoice?
[02:58] <DVS01> vlc player seems to be playing choppy on a pretty decent system.. could this be caused by beryl? i am using nvidia + aiglx + beryl
[02:58] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: just right click on an ISO and it will burn it
[02:58] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: if you want something similar to Nero,  try GnomeBaker
[02:58] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: installs through synaptic
[02:59] <py_geek> okay... im sorry but im a newbie, how do i make an iso?
[02:59] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek:  best you install gnome baker then
[02:59] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: it has buttons to press and will basically do it for you
[02:59] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: have you used a windows program to burn?
[03:00] <py_geek> yes, roxio
[03:00] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: similar enough
[03:00] <Ax3> people using feisty, does freenx work? if so can you point to an installation guide? : D
[03:00] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: look under system then synaptic and type in gnomebaker
[03:00] <wastrel> feisty qustions on #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: it will install
[03:00] <py_geek> thanks
[03:00] <Juanca> Hi, can anyone help me? I can't install windows to dual boot, could Ubuntu left something over in cache?
[03:01] <Shootfaster> im still here
[03:01] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: I mean type in gnome baker under search
[03:01] <Juanca> Hey
[03:01] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: you will get a list of programs but it will show up
[03:01] <Shootfaster> what happened?
[03:01] <Ubuntuvoice> py_geek: have a little faith..;
[03:01] <Juanca> It didn't work, same problem
[03:01] <Shootfaster> theres no such thing as a cache when we formatted the hard drive, so it cant be that
[03:02] <Juanca> I was guessing if it could be about 2G I occipied
[03:02] <Shootfaster> how is it occupied?
[03:02] <Ax3> well in general...
[03:02] <Ax3> has anyone gotten freenx to worko?
[03:02] <Ax3> -o*
[03:02] <Juanca> I don`t know, I tun a "memory test" from the ubuntu cd
[03:02] <Juanca> run*
[03:03] <Juanca> and I can see those 2g somehow occupied
[03:03] <Shootfaster> does xp crash before it even asks about partitioning?
[03:04] <Shootfaster> (xp offloads files when it is installing)
[03:04] <py_geek> ubuntuvoice, i do not see gnomebaker...
[03:04] <wastrel> !info gnomebaker
[03:04] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[03:05] <Juanca> yes, it does
[03:05] <wastrel> it's in universe
[03:05] <overridex-laptop> anyone else unable to get into gnome after updating edgy recently?
[03:05] <Juanca> It start some drivers checking and then gaves me a blue screen with a message
[03:06] <Juanca> I wish I could find that message to show you
[03:06] <py_geek> ubuntuvoice: nope, still nothing...
[03:07] <tjcarter> Juanca: NVidia card?
[03:07] <Juanca> tjcarter: no, ATI
[03:07] <tjcarter> might be similar problem, but I can't help diagnose it.
[03:07] <Shootfaster> its windows giving him the error
[03:08] <Shrimpy_> hey i was wondering how you "uninstall" applications from the computer.
[03:08] <Shootfaster> Shrimpy - left click on them in synaptic and click remove
[03:08] <py_geek> who in here messed up windows when they installed linux??
[03:08] <py_geek> I did!
[03:08] <py_geek> Join the crowd!
[03:08] <tjcarter> basically, half the time, I can fix that with "sudo depmod -a" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[03:08] <Juanca> I'v founded, I will pastebin it
[03:08] <tjcarter> py_geek: on purpose or by accident?
[03:08] <Shrimpy_> Shootfaster: thanks. but i did that and then in the application menu the progam is still there (i'm trying to delete cedeage then add an older verson)
[03:09] <py_geek> either way
[03:09] <tjcarter> Juanca: try my solution before you go to all that trouble--it might be all you need.  If it isn't, you'll have to find someone else anyway.
[03:09] <Shootfaster> did you install cadager from source?
[03:09] <Shrimpy_> it was a .deb package
[03:09] <Juanca> Shootfaster, tjcarter: http://pastebin.ca/443835
[03:10] <Juanca> tjcarter: tell me
[03:10] <py_geek> Okay, how 'bout this-
[03:10] <py_geek> Who ignoerd all the warning stuff about losing data?
[03:10] <Shootfaster> tjcarter - that will only restart the gnome display manager
[03:10] <tjcarter> Juanca: depmod -a as root, then restart gdm, as root.
[03:10] <Ax3> has anyone gotten freenx to work? if so can you point to a good guide that was used? TIA
[03:10] <Shootfaster> his problem is installing windows
[03:10] <py_geek> when installing linux, that is
[03:11] <Juanca> tjcarter: yes my problem is installing xp
[03:11] <tjcarter> Shootfaster: With NV cards, you generally get this obnoxious situation after an upgrade that you can't get into X because the kernel doesn't know about your driver.
[03:11] <tjcarter> okay, XP is beyond my realm of knowledge.
[03:11] <Shootfaster> Juanca - I had a problem like this on a faulty hard drive
[03:11] <eldude> anyone want to help me out? I just did a "sudo apt-get install kde", everything finished sucesfully, i am wondering how i can now use KDE as my desktop manager
[03:11] <Shootfaster> Juanca - but hopefully its only a BIOS problem
[03:12] <Shootfaster> Juanca - boot up your PC and click del (or f2, whatever key it says) to get to your bios
[03:12] <visualdeception> eldude when you log in select options and you should be able to choose kde as your gui
[03:12] <Shootfaster> then re-scan for hard disks, or make sure it detects them correctly
[03:13] <forQed> Rythembox starts up every time I plug in my MP3 player, is there a way to stop this?
[03:13] <wastrel> forQed:  check in system > preferences > removable drives and media
[03:13] <Juanca> Shootfaster, I will do it right now
[03:14] <Drakona> can anyone help me set up wireless using 3945ABG card
[03:15] <Kaon> Drakona, what problems are you having?
[03:15] <larson9999> i ugraded to feisty and boy does my pc seem zippier.  wonder if it's a placebo effect
[03:15] <Drakona> Kaon, it seems to not want to connect
[03:15] <Combat> From the ALSA driver i don't see "Rockwell International"
[03:15] <Combat> for sound
[03:16] <Kaon> are you sure no other interfaces are trying to start up alongside it?
[03:16] <MrMakevel1> how can i check my lan ip address?
[03:16] <MrMakevel1> i did ifconfig but im not sure if thats it or not
[03:16] <Kendrick_> juanca:  have you had xp on the system before?
[03:16] <visualdeception> MrMakevel1 ifconfig
[03:16] <Drakona> Kaon: I'm sure, when I tried it few times, disabled the ethernet
[03:16] <Juanca> Shootfaster: I think it detect it, it says SAMSUNG SP...
[03:16] <forQed> wastrel: Thank you!
[03:16] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: i did that, i guess its the inet addr one?
[03:17] <visualdeception> yea, are you hooked up to a router or straight to the internet
[03:17] <Combat> i type in lspci -v then got info for my sound card "Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310"
[03:17] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: are you sure its that, cause im not so sure...
[03:17] <HessiaNerd> hello, Im having trouble automounting (or even mounting) a external usb drive, any advice?
[03:17] <overridex-laptop> so no one else is unable to get into gnome after updating edgy recently?  sucks for me i guess, happening on 2 boxes
[03:17] <Kaon> HessiaNerd, you might need to be in the "plugdev" group
[03:18] <Juanca> Shootfaster: and the boot priority is set: cd, floppy, HD, ethernet
[03:18] <Kendrick_> juanca :
[03:18] <visualdeception> MrMakevel1 yes that gives me my correct ip address
[03:18] <Juanca> Kendrick_: tell me
[03:18] <xiven> Hey all
[03:18] <xiven> I got a problem
[03:18] <HessiaNerd> Kaon, thanks, I will try that.
[03:18] <Kendrick_> have you installed windows xp on this system b4?
[03:18] <mg> xiven, no meta questions just ask
[03:18] <wastrel> overridex-laptop:  i'm guessing you got a kernel update and now your binary (ati or nvidia) graphics driver isn't working
[03:19] <Combat> Anyone help me? On sound
[03:19] <Combat> i type in lspci -v then got info for my sound card "Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310"
[03:19] <xiven> I have a dual boot of Ubuntu/Fedora Core, I am on Fedora right now, i have chroot'd to the ubuntu drive, and i can do everything on the shell, the problem is, ubuntu will not boot up. How can I fix this, without reinstalling?
[03:19] <Juanca> Kendrick_: yes, but it was before about 3 reinstallations of ubuntu
[03:19] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: i went to my router to set a static ip, but it was too easy. i went to it and just made up a number outside the dhcp range. how could it know its me? how coudl it have been assigned to me? i did nothing put type in the address
[03:19] <Kendrick_> ok did you change any hardware since then?
[03:20] <Juanca> Kendrick_: no
[03:20] <harry_> once I install gmailfs, how do I configure it
[03:20] <visualdeception> MrMakevel1 what is the ip address it is giving you?
[03:20] <mg> xiven, how would you boot ubuntu. do you mean the kernel hangs up while booting?
[03:20] <IdleOne> MrMakevel1: what ip did you enter?
[03:20] <brophat> where is the microphone volume control?
[03:20] <Kendrick_> is the partition you are trying to install to a primary partition ?
[03:20] <xiven> It goes into Kernel panic i belive
[03:20] <xiven> however, under chroot, i can run the system
[03:21] <xiven> oh wait no
[03:21] <mg> xiven, yes but when you chroot from fedora you still run the fedora kernel
[03:21] <Drakona> any advices on runing the wireless with 3945ABG card, I tried to set it up, but it didn't want to connect
[03:21] <xiven> i can get to a graphical login...but when i login..it ends up right back at the login
[03:21] <mg> xiven, did you change something at the ubuntu kernel
[03:21] <Juanca> Kendrick_: sorry, i don't understand. I'm trying to format the disk to left half of it to the ubuntu installation later
[03:22] <xiven> no i hadnt..actually,i had just done a distribution upgrade and everything was fine, but i rebooted, and now when i login, it goes right back to login screen
[03:22] <Juanca> Kendrick_: But I don't know if I erased the partitions , using Gparted, well
[03:22] <Kendrick_> just a sec ill see if i can get a pic...
[03:23] <HessiaNerd> Im already in the plugdev group
[03:23] <Shootfaster> Juanca - just a thought - did you commit changes to gparted?
[03:23] <mg> xiven, you mean it boots just fine and only the gui doesn't work?
[03:23] <py_geek> how can I install an unzipped program?(python2.5)
[03:23] <MrMakevel1> visual, idle: the one i set: 192.168.0.200
[03:23] <cookie> hello all, I tried something with Beryl and it did not work with yet. I added a new session menu (beryl) on the login window. Now if I want to remove this menu how to do it?
[03:23] <brophat> where is the microphone volume control?
[03:23] <mg> try to set your xorg graphics driver to nv or vesa and try again
[03:23] <Death_Sargent> anyone know of a way to set my procesor to downscale when over heating
[03:23] <overridex-laptop> wastrel: no, because gdm comes up without a problem... it's only after logging in and the gnome panels/etc. appear X dies... happens on two separate machines
[03:24] <Death_Sargent> I have acpi control but I do periodically have overheating problems
[03:24] <Juanca> Shootfaster: What you mean "to Gparted", with Gparted yes I did "erase" the previous partition I've made
[03:24] <visualdeception> and its giving you a different one?
[03:24] <MrMakevel1> visual, idle: i just read something that i have to manually open all ports because ubuntu auto-locks them all down
[03:24] <xiven> As in, GDM comes up, and i put in my username and password, and press login, however instead of logging in, it appears to refresh the login screen.
[03:24] <overridex-laptop> xiven: i'm having the same problem
[03:24] <xiven> You know the fix?
[03:24] <mg> xiven, ah now i understand
[03:24] <IdleOne> MrMakevel1: 192.168.0.... are internal/local ip addys it is yours to use and I can also. what you did is forward your external ip to the internal ip
[03:24] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: its the correct one...
[03:24] <seamus7> what program do i use to check the md5sum of an ubuntu live cd
[03:24] <Juanca> Shootfaster: I think maybe I did it wrong and left something blocked or something
[03:24] <xiven> I tried to go into the Failsafe to fix it, but it wouldnt let me login to that either
[03:25] <HessiaNerd> Kaon, Im already in the plugdev group... anything else you can think of?
[03:25] <Kendrick_> juanca: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php  create new partiton shows kina what i mean
[03:25] <odix> problem with ubuntu ;[ ... got a wireless belkin router connected to my main computer running ubuntu, its all up and running, but i can't connect to the internet on my ubuntu machine but i can on my wireless laptops
[03:25] <overridex-laptop> xiven: nope, just know it's happening on 2 out of 4 boxes for me, all are up to date.. don't know what's going on
[03:25] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: i was just port forwarding
[03:25] <odix> its driving me crazy
[03:25] <visualdeception> nice!
[03:25] <mg> xiven, hmm no sorry. but you can log into the system correctly on the terminal, can't you?
[03:25] <Kaon> HessiaNerd, it might not be detecting the device
[03:25] <Kendrick_> juanca:  windows has to be /dev/hda1-3
[03:25] <wastrel> overridex-laptop:  check your x log.  also, try creating a new user and see if you can log in with that account (rules out gnome config customizations)
[03:25] <Shootfaster> Juanca - when you make changes in gpartedd, it just sort of shows you a preview of what your about to do. It wont touch the disk till you click on commit
[03:25] <cookie> how to add/remove a new session menu on the login window?
[03:25] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: i set a static lan ip for azureus
[03:25] <foug> photoshop uses .psd for files with layers and such. What is the gimp version of .psd?
[03:25] <MrMakevel1> because it says i have NAT errors
[03:25] <overridex-laptop> foug: xcf
[03:25] <visualdeception> ahh gotcha
[03:26] <xiven> Well, it automatically goes into the GDM. I was looking for a problem using Fedora ( i chroot'd after mounting the ubuntu drive)
[03:26] <foug> overridex-laptop: thanks
[03:26] <Shootfaster> Kendrick - windows XP has to be on partition 1
[03:26] <Drakona> any advices on running the wireless with 3945ABG card, I tried to set it up, but it didn't want to connect
[03:26] <Shootfaster> but in his case, he cant even boot the XP cd
[03:26] <Juanca> Right
[03:26] <odix> anyone ?
[03:26] <Juanca> ex-laptop: thanks
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[03:26] <Shootfaster> My guess is its a BIOS issue with the disks not detecting the drive
[03:26] <Juanca> ex-laptop: thanks
 Kendrick
[03:26] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: but i was just reading that i have to manually open the ports w/ ubuntu, that it auto closes all ports
[03:26] <Kaon> Drakona, there's a #wireless...they might be able to help
[03:26] <MrMakevel1> cept a telnet or something
[03:26] <overridex-laptop> wastrel: i'll try... just odd on two separate computers with different users (and logins)
[03:27] <Drakona> Kaon:  I'll give it a shot
[03:27] <Juanca> Kendrick, this is the error: http://pastebin.ca/443835
[03:27] <Kaon> only ~70 people too so you might not get lost in the rush of text like in here
[03:27] <visualdeception> i use azureus and i didnt have to manually open any ports
[03:27] <Kendrick_> shootfaster: negitiv  just has to be primary  win2k3 is on partition 3 here and xp on partition 1 neither know about the other and linux on 2
[03:27] <py_geek> how do i open nautilus cd creator?
[03:27] <visualdeception> just on my router itself
[03:27] <Shrimpy_> i know this is ubuntu support channel but i was wondering if somebody could help me wit the setup of cedega. i removed 6.0 with synaptic and then i installed 5.2 and now it won't open
[03:27] <MrMakevel1> i went to my router and opened the port
[03:27] <visualdeception> you should be good to go then
[03:27] <MrMakevel1> but i just scanned my lan ip for this computer and it says only one port is open
[03:28] <xiven> So, why do i get a login screen, after logging in?
[03:28] <particleman> ok...this is probably a dumb fix
[03:28] <m1r> any good tip on broadband provider hardware/software ?
[03:28] <particleman> tried to install Flashplayer 9 using alien via this howto
[03:28] <Juanca> Shootfaster: What do I do. Do I start with the ubuntu CD again to check?
[03:28] <particleman> http://www.howtoforge.com/native_linux_flash_player9_in_ubuntu
[03:28] <MrMakevel1> visualdeception: and it sure isnt my azureus one
[03:28] <particleman> it installs ok in terminal
[03:28] <odix> anyone have any insight to this ?
[03:28] <particleman> but doesn't show up in about:plugins under Firefox
[03:28] <HessiaNerd> Kaon, the device show ups in the 'disk and file systems' control center, well sometimes... its not showing up right now
[03:28] <Shootfaster> Grub lies to windows and tells it it is in first
[03:28] <particleman> I'm guessing I need to redo symlinks somewhere
[03:28] <particleman> but I'm not exactly sure where
[03:28] <Juanca> Please help me
[03:29] <py_geek> quick question= How do i open nautilus cd creator?
[03:29] <Shootfaster> 2k3 might not mind being on another drive, and vista doesnt care, but XP has to be partition 1
[03:29] <Kaon> HessiaNerd, it may need to be manually mounted
[03:29] <Juanca> :(
[03:29] <py_geek> juanca-state your problem
[03:29] <canadianman> need help getting my 5.1 surround sound working, editting ~/.asoundrc did not work
[03:29] <particleman> canadianman-in what program?
[03:29] <particleman> or in general?
[03:29] <Ax3> hey guys, i installed FreeNX as per the community ubuntu documentation at ubuntu.com, and when i try to login i get an error: "NX Server Disabled"
[03:29] <canadianman> mythtv .20
[03:29] <particleman> ah
[03:29] <particleman> not one I know
[03:29] <Juanca> py_geek: I did, but my helpers started arguing
[03:29] <particleman> though...this is gonna sound dumb
[03:30] <Kendrick_> hahahah
[03:30] <Shootfaster> lol
[03:30] <particleman> but in Amarok
[03:30] <canadianman> in general i guess
[03:30] <Juanca> :)
[03:30] <particleman> it was just a matter of switching output in the playback section from stereo to Dolby 5.1
[03:30] <py_geek> >:o How do you use nautilys cd creator?!?!?!
[03:30] <canadianman> hmmmmmmmm so install Amarok?
[03:30] <py_geek> nautilus*
[03:30] <particleman> well...it was Amarok running the Xine engine
[03:30] <particleman> so my guess is Xine is the key here
[03:30] <Shootfaster> ok, juanca are you on the live cd now>
[03:31] <canadianman> gotcha
[03:31] <particleman> now...any help on my flash problem audience? :)
[03:31] <py_geek> humph...
[03:31] <marcel> any know how to patch kernel?
[03:31] <Juanca> Shootfaster: no, I'm in another pc now, but I can start it
[03:31] <overridex-laptop> xiven: it's logging you in, and X crashes immediately, and goes back to the login
[03:31] <py_geek> :-!
[03:31] <xiven> Ohh
[03:32] <Shootfaster> if possible, can you move both pc's close to each other so i can guide you step by step?
[03:32] <py_geek> :-X
[03:32] <seamus7> hi... how do I check the md5sum of an ubuntu live cd?
[03:32] <overridex-laptop> i'm in bed and don't feel like getting up to try what wastrel suggested... you may want to
[03:33] <Shootfaster> Juanca, join #Shootfast
[03:33] <py_geek> okay, one question people!!!! HOW DO YOU MAKE A CD IN UBUNTU??
[03:33] <py_geek> enough caps now...
[03:33] <overridex-laptop> xiven: hit ctrl+alt+F1 and login there, then ctrl+alt+F7 will get you back to your login screen when you want to
[03:33] <HessiaNerd> Kaon, yea... manual mount worked... it would just be nice to have it automount and drop a link on my desktop...  I had an older install that did that...
[03:33] <Juanca> Shootfaster: Ok i will fron the live cd in a second
[03:33] <ratshell> pygeek
[03:33] <particleman> py_geek
[03:33] <ratshell> py_geek use gnomebaker
[03:33] <particleman> I use k3cd
[03:33] <overridex-laptop> xiven: you can login in F1, run sudo adduser  to create another username and see if that lets you login on F7
[03:33] <visualdeception> py_geek I use k3b or gnomebaker
[03:33] <Shootfaster> k3b
[03:33] <Tidus> i normally use k3b
[03:33] <ratshell> There are a lot of people here.
[03:33] <marcel> kernel geeks anyone?
[03:34] <py_geek> I cant find gnomebaker, i'll try k3b...
[03:34] <ratshell> Text goes by quick
[03:34] <Tidus> marcel, what kind of kernel issues are you talking about here?
[03:34] <ratshell> I am in #ubuntuhelp, less people there. So ttyl later
[03:34] <overridex-laptop> ratshell: just be glad we're not all talking at once
[03:34] <particleman> but if you just want to burn from nautilus
[03:34] <particleman> type burn:/// into the address bar
[03:34] <particleman> now
[03:34] <particleman> will someone please help me with my Flash/firefox/dapper issues?
[03:35] <ubd> howto surface scan with fsck?
[03:35] <Nergar> where can i check the ubuntu todo list??
[03:35] <marcel> just out of curiosity want to learn a bit so I want to play and upgrade from 2.6.15 to 2.6.20
[03:36] <odix> could anyone tell me why i can connect with my laptop through my wireless router by my comp directly connected to my wirless router doesnt
[03:36] <darwin> Can someone tell a good begginer guide to mencoder?
[03:36] <hw--> odix: IP Address
[03:37] <Tidus> marcel, move to pm
[03:37] <odix> hw--? what ?
[03:37] <marcel> what's pm?
[03:37] <odix> what does my ip address have to do with it
[03:37] <hw--> odix:the IP address has to be set right
[03:37] <hw--> odix: also the lan cable can't be bad
[03:37] <py_geek> marcel: click on the persons name you want to pm and right click
[03:37] <odix> its auto dhcp ? where do I set this at ?
[03:38] <Tidus> marcel, just check your channel list... i'm down there somewhere
[03:38] <odix> system>network settings> lan ?
[03:38] <redwyrm> how do I create /dev/video0?
[03:39] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> any gnome feisty users have problems with CDs auto-mounting?
[03:39] <redwyrm> how do I create /dev/video0?
[03:39] <Flannel> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty stuff
[03:39] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> sudo mkdir /dev/video0 i imagine
[03:39] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> thx Flannel
[03:39] <Nergar> where can i check the ubuntu todo list?? the things the developers are working on??
[03:39] <Flannel> Nergar: #ubuntu-dev might be a good place to ask.  But, it'd be somewhere in launchpad, I imagine
[03:40] <Nergar> ok, thanx
[03:40] <Combat> need a BIG HELp
[03:40] <Combat> fast
[03:40] <Tidus> marcel,
[03:40] <Combat> a prompt say "please enter root as user"
[03:41] <Flannel> Combat: Where?
[03:41] <hw--> Combat: put "sudo" before the command you want to run
[03:41] <py_geek> tidus, i think marcel's in private chat
[03:42] <Combat> in the terminal "combatmode@Combat:-$"
[03:42] <Tidus> he's not responded lol
[03:42] <Flannel> Combat: what are you trying to do that tells you to "enter root as user"?
[03:42] <Combat> so is combatmode? or just Combat
[03:42] <marcel> Tidus, I am here
[03:42] <darwin> What is a good beginner guide to MEncoder? I don't want one that goes into a lot of detail, just how to convert to open formats
[03:42] <Tidus> Combat, use 'sudo -i' to get a root terminal
[03:42] <py_geek> how do u run a prgm from the terminal?
[03:42] <hw--> py_geek: make it executable then ./ it
[03:42] <Combat> ---
[03:42] <Combat> sh cnxtinstall.run -- --tty
[03:42] <Combat> ---
[03:42] <Combat> Alternatively, you could manually download and install the packages from the
[03:42] <Combat> following pages:
[03:42] <Combat> HSF: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads.php
[03:42] <Tidus> marcel, check your pm list so i can help you with your kernel questions
[03:42] <Combat> HCF: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads.php
[03:42] <Flannel> py_geek: typing its name usually.  Smetimes theyre a little different, use tabcomplete
[03:42] <Combat> RIPTIDE: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php
[03:42] <Combat> Trying to launch a web browser, please wait...
[03:43] <Flannel> !paste | Combat
[03:43] <Combat> The password asked by the installer is:
[03:43] <ubotu> Combat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0     though you really shouldn't need to with udev...
[03:43] <redwyrm> ah
[03:43] <redwyrm> what's the udev way?
[03:43] <Combat> root@combat
[03:43] <Combat> root@Combat
[03:43] <hw--> !ops
[03:43] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[03:43] <Combat> so is just "Combat"
[03:43] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: well, as long as udev's running it creates the entires in /dev if the hardware exists
[03:43] <Amaranth> hw--: ?
[03:43] <ubd> i need to make a hdd surface scan how will i do
[03:44] <marcel> Tidus, I clicked on your name and anothore chat came up
[03:44] <Combat> Tidus rite?
[03:44] <py_geek> ALL:: how can you install a program from files you got from a .tar(python 2.5)???
[03:44] <hw--> Amaranth: nm
[03:44] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: i should say if the hardware exists and drivers are loaded
[03:44] <xiven> Hmm
[03:44] <Tidus> !rootsudo > Combat
[03:44] <Amaranth> py_geek: don't :)
[03:44] <hw--> py_geek: man tar
[03:44] <Tidus> marcel, that would be correct
[03:44] <xiven> according to logs, the problem is, the xserver is locking up...
[03:44] <Amaranth> !info python2.5 | py_geek
[03:44] <ubotu> py_geek: python2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3164 kB, installed size 11744 kB
[03:44] <redwyrm> overridex-laptop, yeah, I have no idea which drivers to use for this hardware
[03:44] <Tidus> !root | Combat
[03:44] <xiven> Im not sure how to fix it though
[03:44] <ubotu> Combat: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:45] <marcel> so where do you want to chat, here or in you pm
[03:45] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: what is it?
[03:45] <Tidus> in pm
[03:45] <Amaranth> py_geek: in 6.06 python2.5 is available to install and in 6.10 it's the default
[03:45] <Flannel> Combat: don't install from source.  Make a deb.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto  is how to do it with an rpm
[03:45] <redwyrm> overridex-laptop, a Logitech Quickcam for Notebooks Pro
[03:45] <xiven> Error in I810WaitLpRing(), now is 74200234, start is 74198233
[03:45] <xiven> What does this mean?
[03:45] <Kaon> sounds like a clock skew
[03:45] <py_geek> amaranth: I want the complete package
[03:45] <Kaon> reported in that retarded "seconds since 1 Jan 1970" way
[03:45] <Amaranth> py_geek: what do you think is missing?
[03:46] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hw--: ?
[03:46] <redwyrm> overridex-laptop, thanks, I'll try that
[03:46] <Mendigote> how do i install video and sound codec packages, i mean, i dont the name of any package, installing one by one takes too much time... anyone can help?
[03:46] <py_geek> amaranth: is the complete package- xml, tkinter, etc the whole shebang in there?
[03:46] <Amaranth> py_geek: yes
[03:46] <Tidus> marcel, what irc client are you using?
[03:47] <hw--> !codecs | Mendigote
[03:47] <ubotu> Mendigote: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: hmm... i think the one you mentioned is under not supported but has a link to something else
[03:47] <marcel> don't know
[03:47] <py_geek> okay nm!
[03:47] <py_geek> but how do you install flash?
[03:47] <Mendigote> how do i install video and sound codec packages, i mean, i dont know the name of any package, installing one by one takes too much time... anyone can help?
[03:47] <seamus7> hi.. this is a bit advanced ... what might it mean when using a live cd and i get something about static memory and loading gfx?? might my cd be corrupt?
[03:47] <Tidus> hm...
[03:47] <Flannel> Mendigote: also, Feisty greatly simplifies that process, if you're willing to install a beta, or wait a week.
[03:47] <Combat> sudo apt-get install alien
[03:47] <marcel> Gnome IRC chat
[03:47] <Combat> doesn't work on me
[03:47] <Amaranth> !info flashplayer-mozilla | py_geek
[03:47] <ubotu> py_geek: flashplayer-mozilla: Macromedia Flash Player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.0.79-0.2 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 1528 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:47] <Tidus> marcel, type "/query Tidus" in the chat window, without the quotes
[03:47] <Tidus> then type in the window that appears
[03:47] <marshall> hey guys, where are downloaded and installed icon themes stored in ubuntu?
[03:47] <redwyrm> overridex-laptop, I'm actually hoping for an excuse to return this. it's not really in my price range :P
[03:48] <hw--> marshall: locate ico
[03:48] <hw--> marshall: locate icon
[03:48] <ubuntu> hello.
[03:48] <marshall> ?
[03:48] <overridex-laptop> redwyrm: hehe
[03:48] <marshall> hw--: how do you figure that will work
[03:48] <py_geek> ubotu: im sorry, what???
[03:48] <wastrel> marshall:  /usr/share/icons
[03:48] <hw--> marshall: goto command line and type "locate icon"
[03:48] <Amaranth> marshall: /home/<user>/.icons
[03:48] <aaronr> wow it's high traffic here. :P
[03:48] <marshall> thanks Amaranth
[03:48] <Amaranth> py_geek: install the flashplayer-mozilla package
[03:48] <overridex-laptop> battery's low, i'm gone...
[03:49] <marcel> As I said I am trying to patch  linux from 2.6.15 to 2.6.20
[03:49] <chowmeined> dang
[03:49] <Amaranth> aaronr: this is a slow period
[03:49] <chowmeined> when is it going to go over 1000 again
[03:49] <Mendigote> how can i install video and audio packages? i dont know the name of any package and installing one by one takes too mch time
[03:49] <Tidus> marcel, you're still in channel lol
[03:49] <Combat> How i install cnxtinstall.run
[03:49] <Combat> i receved this http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads-installer.php
[03:49] <Tidus> !restricted | Mendigote
[03:49] <wastrel> chowmeined:  wait a couple of days
[03:49] <Amaranth> whoa, we lost over 100 users
[03:49] <chowmeined> with feisty?
[03:49] <Amaranth> !mp3 | Mendigote
[03:49] <chowmeined> all the rush of people trying to fix stuff?
[03:49] <Kaon> Combat, I think you run it from a terminal with the sh command
[03:49] <Kaon> sh program.run
[03:49] <ubotu> Mendigote: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:49] <marcel> where do I go?
[03:49] <aaronr> yeah, looking at the userlist I figured it was probably quite quiet for here.
[03:49] <aaronr> Not been in a channel this busy for quite a long time.
[03:50] <Combat> sh ? so i have the file name call cnxtinstall.run
[03:50] <Tidus> i forget half of the bot's triggers
[03:50] <Combat> and i cd Desktop
[03:50] <Combat> then sh cnxtinstall.run?
[03:50] <stiv2k> every 5 seconds i hear a "dink!" out of my speakers at the same time my hard drive activity light blinks, its SO annoying what could be causing it???
[03:51] <rml> how do I get the Sound Recorder 2.16.1 in Ubuntu to work? I have all the volumes turned on.
[03:51] <Combat> I type in sudo sh <filename>
[03:51] <hw--> Combat: follow these instructions :  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads-installer-advanced.php
[03:51] <marcel> Tidus, Sorry, I don't get it, where should I go
[03:52] <Tidus> marcel, you should have a channel list on either the left side or the bottom of your screen showing open channels
[03:52] <marcel> yes, I am in #ubuntu
[03:52] <francois> where do i go for hardware help ?
[03:52] <Tidus> marcel, look for my name in the list
[03:52] <marcel> and I have also your name Tidus
[03:53] <Tidus> marcel, switch to that channel so we can continue
[03:53] <marcel> I think I am there
[03:53] <marcel> I typed hi 3x
[03:53] <Tidus> no, you're still in #ubuntu...
[03:54] <Combat> hw so i follow but confuse.
[03:54] <Combat> combatmode@Combat:~/Desktop$  sh cnxtinstall.run -- --browse firefox
[03:54] <hw--> browser
[03:55] <frank227a> Hello
[03:55] <Combat> just without firefox
[03:55] <hw--> Combat: Example:  sh cnxtinstall.run -- --browser firefox
[03:55] <brophat> rml you see my direct message to you?
[03:55] <frank227a> Anyone have a suggestion as to why my network connection might be crawling at a snails pace?
[03:56] <frank227a> I'm on a cable modem and it is going like dialup.
[03:56] <Shootfaster> hackers cloggin ur tubes
[03:56] <odix_> ahhh
[03:56] <wastrel> tubes -> clogged
[03:56] <Tidus> i give up on marcel
[03:56] <frank227a> Shootfaster: How could I determine that?
[03:56] <odix_> why on my computer can i connect to google.com lets say easily then try msn.com and it doesnt even go
[03:56] <Ax3> NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx
[03:56] <Ax3> NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
[03:56] <Ax3> NX> 204 Authentication failed.
[03:56] <odix_> belkin wireless wrouter
[03:56] <Ax3> help!
[03:57] <odix_> all my laptops connect flawlessly but my main connected computer sucks
[03:57] <hw--> odix_: goto google.com and search for msn.com and see if it is there
[03:57] <cfgnunes> hi
[03:57] <frank227a> Is there a command to determine my network traffic?
[03:57] <Combat> hw
[03:57] <cfgnunes> openMosix
[03:57] <Combat>  ("Ex-Chat")
[03:57] <Combat> * knapp (n=knapp@67.58.84.182) has joined #ubuntu
[03:57] <Combat> Combat just without firefox
[03:57] <Combat> hw-- Combat: Example:  sh cnxtinstall.run -- --browser firefox
[03:57] <Combat> * jskulski (n=jskulski@adsl-70-143-90-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #ubuntu
[03:57] <Combat> * YakSolo (n=john@c-24-11-237-39.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
[03:57] <Combat> brophat rml you see my direct message to you?
[03:57] <Combat> frank227a Anyone have a suggestion as to why my network connection might be crawling at a snails pace?
[03:57] <stiv2k> every 5 seconds i hear a "dink!" out of my speakers at the same time my hard drive activity light blinks, its SO annoying what could be causing it???
[03:57] <Combat> frank227a I'm on a cable modem and it is going like dialup.
[03:57] <Combat> * odix_ (n=odix@ip70-180-135-177.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu
[03:57] <hw--> frank227a: tcpdump, netstat, ifconfig
[03:57] <Combat> Shootfaster hackers cloggin ur tubes
[03:57] <Combat> odix_ ahhh
[03:57] <Combat> wastrel tubes -> clogged
[03:57] <Combat> * Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) has joined #Ubuntu
[03:57] <cfgnunes> its a virus?
[03:57] <Combat> Tidus i give up on marcel
[03:57] <Combat> frank227a Shootfaster: How could I determine that?
[03:57] <Combat> odix_ why on my computer can i connect to google.com lets say easily then try msn.com and it doesnt even go
[03:57] <hw--> !ops   Combat is spam.
[03:57] <knapp> ??
[03:58] <Combat> Ax3 NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx
[03:58] <Pici> !ops | combat spamming
[03:58] <ubotu> combat spamming: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[03:58] <Combat> Ax3 NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
[03:58] <Combat> Ax3 NX> 204 Authentication failed.
[03:58] <Combat> odix_ belkin wireless wrouter
[03:58] <Combat> * aj_ (n=aj@ppp-69-223-157-129.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #ubuntu
[03:58] <Combat> Ax3 help!
[03:58] <marcel> why
[03:58] <odix_> i do, i click on it, it says looking up msn.com and just freezes til it finds another domain from loading that page and freezes again on looking up so an so
[03:58] <cfgnunes> odix?
[03:58] <wastrel> combat learns about middle-click paste :] 
[03:58] <cfgnunes> linux have viruses?
[03:58] <Pici> elkbuntu: Thanks!
[03:58] <marcel> I see perfectly what you are typing in your channel Tidus
[03:58] <odix_> for some reason its super slow on the main connect computer
[03:58] <hw-->  nah i thought combat was spam earlier but I gave him a chance
[03:58] <odix_> you think i have a virus ?
[03:58] <Tidus> marcel, i bet i know what's happening
[03:58] <marcel> i'm not receiving any messages that you're sending
[03:59] <Polygon89> question: i just turned on my computer, and it turns out that all partitons on my external drive seems to of dissapeared... (it shows up as unallocated in gnome partiton editor). suggestions?
[03:59] <marcel> this is what you wrote
[03:59] <Tidus> you're not registered / identified to services
[03:59] <cfgnunes> hey! people! Linux have viruses?
[03:59] <combatmode> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16044/
[03:59] <hw--> Polygon89: fdisk -l
[03:59] <marcel> how can I register?
[03:59] <combatmode> hw
[03:59] <odix_> cfgunes rarely
[03:59] <odix_> but yes
[03:59] <Pici> !register | marcel
[03:59] <ubotu> marcel: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:59] <xiven> what is wacom?
[03:59] <cfgnunes> im brazilian! BRAZIL!
[03:59] <cfgnunes> ol pessoal!
[03:59] <cfgnunes> como esta voces?
[03:59] <hw--> combatmode: sudo sh cnxtinstall.run -- --browser firefox
[03:59] <Polygon89> hw--, it says that /dev/sda does not have a valid partition table (the drive where everything disappeared)
[03:59] <nalioth> !paste | combatmode
[03:59] <ubotu> combatmode: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:59] <elkbuntu> #br | cfgnunes
[04:00] <nalioth> !es
[04:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:00] <elkbuntu> !br | cfgnunes
[04:00] <ubotu> cfgnunes: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:00] <hw--> Polygon89: that is bad error ... sorry
[04:00] <knapp> I'm getting the following error when I load module 'nvidia' (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[04:00] <marcel> I thin you are right
[04:00] <cfgnunes> ubotu? Voc  brasileiro?
[04:00] <bruenig> !br
[04:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:00] <Pici> cfgnunes: /j #ubuntu-br
[04:00] <Polygon89> hw--, so there is nothing i can do?
[04:00] <hw--> !es | cfgnunes
[04:00] <ubotu> cfgnunes: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:01] <rml> Combat, no. where is it?
[04:01] <hw--> Polygon89: well... if you know your partition table you could try to rebuild it by nodes :/
[04:01] <michael117> I love amarok even though I use gnome but it has been very very slow lately... How can I speed up Amarok or troubleshoot it to figure out why it running so slowly, getting the dark screen, and pausing several times while playing a song because it is lagging or something.
[04:01] <cfgnunes> Iam waiting for UBUNTU 7.04! Yess!
[04:01] <cfgnunes> I love XMMS!/
[04:02] <michael117> xmms? psh...
[04:02] <Polygon89> hw--, i know the general sizes but i know that it is not the exact number (aka instead of 50 gb its like 48.9 or something), is there some program that could possibly recover stuff on it? its not even mounted so nothing has been written over it
[04:02] <hw--> Polygon89: I don't know enough about partition
[04:02] <cfgnunes> XMMS is bether than AMAROK!
[04:02] <Ax3> help with freenx guys, i have no clue what to do
[04:02] <Ax3> lol
[04:03] <Ax3> NO CLUE!
[04:03] <wastrel> what's freenx?
[04:03] <Ax3> lol
[04:03] <michael117> cfgnunes: XMMS is old as hell and amarok>*
[04:03] <cfgnunes> What is "lol"?
[04:03] <Pici> !freenx
[04:03] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:03] <Shootfaster> XMMS is bad...
[04:03] <Ax3> the community docs suck
[04:03] <Polygon89> Ax3, then start improving them :D
[04:03] <Ax3> this thing doesn't work outta the box... :(
[04:03] <Shootfaster> correct!
[04:03] <Ax3> i will as soon as i figure it out!
[04:03] <elkbuntu> cfgnunes, this a support channel, not a general talk channel. you can talk with fellow brazilians in #ubuntu-br
[04:03] <cfgnunes> michael1177: AMAROK is only for KDE!
[04:04] <Shootfaster> ...no it isnt
[04:04] <Ax3> the nomachine client won't let me log into my freenx installation
[04:04] <Polygon89> cfgnunes, you can install kdelibs and have it work on gnome/xfce
[04:04] <sayers> amorak is boop
[04:04] <Shootfaster> you can run KDE aps in gnome
[04:04] <Ax3> i get the following:
[04:04] <Ax3> NX> 202 Authenticating user: nx
[04:04] <Polygon89> hw--, thanks for your help
[04:04] <cfgnunes> XMMS, i like!
[04:04] <Ax3> NX> 208 Using auth method: publickey
[04:04] <Ax3> NX> 204 Authentication failed.
[04:04] <cfgnunes> wr
[04:05] <cfgnunes> "chatZilla?
[04:05] <nicedreams> chatzilla rocks
[04:05] <Ax3> i tried setting a user axe, with the command 'sudo nxserver -adduser axe' and it went thru, then i tried logging in with it, no dice
[04:05] <Polygon89> does anyone know of any programs that can help recover data off a disk that has had its partition table messed up?
[04:06] <Polygon89> Ax3,  is it possible that you could try by using the gui version? users and groups?
[04:06] <cfgnunes> grilei!
[04:07] <cfgnunes> Ubuntu is a GOD! I love ubuntu!
[04:07] <Avalos> Polygon89,  i think getdataback is great... but its not OSS
[04:07] <aj_> this has nothing to do with ubuntu, but I would like to know how to register a username in irc
[04:07] <Ax3> Polygon89, what do you mean, elaborate por favor :D
[04:07] <Pici> !register | aj_
[04:07] <ubotu> aj_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:07] <nicedreams> I installed Ubuntu and have an Nvidia card and it works fine doing "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common /// sudo nvidia-xconfig" but I did an update and it seems the kernel has changed and now X won't start.  How can I get it to work again?
[04:07] <Polygon89> Avalos, is that program free at least? (free money wise)
[04:07] <elkbuntu> cfgnunes, you've been warned enough now. this is your last chance to go somewhere appropriate
[04:08] <Shootfaster> nicedreams - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:08] <aj_> ubotu thank you
[04:08] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:08] <Polygon89> Ax3, i turned on my computer, and my external drive did not mount. i checked why, and the entire partition table has been wiped. it shows up as unallocated in gnome partition editor
[04:08] <Avalos> Polygon89, nopes... you can get a demo to see what you can recover.. but you wont recover withou full version
[04:08] <clever_> Avalos: i think the windows made partition magic can search for deleted partitions adn restore them
[04:08] <aj_> ubotu then I hope you get an eternity of electricity
[04:08] <Polygon89> Avalos, i have three types of partitons on this disk, ntfs, ext3 and fat, can it do ext3?
[04:08] <nicedreams> Shootfaster >>>  Tried that.  Didn't work and I get the same error message of can't load kernel module and no screens found.  I have 'nv' in xorg.conf
[04:09] <clever_> it might do so by looking for fs headers near the start of the partitions
[04:09] <Avalos> Polygon89, yeas it can
[04:09] <nicedreams> my bad...  i have 'nvidia' in xorg.conf
[04:09] <cfgnunes> elkbuntu! please!
[04:09] <hw--> !spam | cfgnunes
[04:09] <ubotu> cfgnunes: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[04:09] <Polygon89> Avalos, eww that program costs 70 dollars, ill keep it in mind though if nothing else works....
[04:09] <cfgnunes> I will help someone!
[04:10] <cfgnunes> porra
[04:10] <Shootfaster> :P
[04:10] <Avalos> cfgnunes, no bad words please
[04:10] <Jump86> is there a gnome panel thing for Amarok?
[04:11] <cfgnunes> ammiel, use the command: sudo iptables -F
[04:11] <cfgnunes> avalos: Ok.
[04:11] <cfgnunes> the command: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop the graphical
[04:12] <cfgnunes> what?
[04:12] <banie> Hi all,
[04:12] <cfgnunes> hi banie!
[04:12] <AaronfromChina> Is there any sound exchange utility which allows to convert MP3 to RealAudio?
[04:12] <cfgnunes> welcome!
[04:12] <banie> i got problem with my ubuntu
[04:13] <cfgnunes> banie: write your problem
[04:13] <clever_> The following packages have been kept back: linux-386 linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 nfs-common
[04:13] <Jump86> is there a way to put Amarok into the gnome panel similar to Rhythmbox?
[04:13] <clever_> what would cause that?
[04:13] <nicedreams> is there anything else I can do to get my X working again with my nvidia card?
[04:13] <cfgnunes> MSN is very better than IRC
[04:13] <zero88> Ok, is there a file for apt-get that holds what packages it has?
[04:13] <banie> when i save ip address dns in in network setting, about 30 min it change it to ip router
[04:13] <banie> i already save it
[04:13] <Nexus> somebody know MSN Messenger ?
[04:14] <nicedreams> i've tried removing nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common and reinstalling them, but still doesn't work
[04:14] <clever_> banie: thats probly dhcp doing it
[04:14] <xtknight> zero88, /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:14] <cfgnunes> i know only the Gaim
[04:14] <banie> so..how to solve it?
[04:14] <nicedreams> it's not GAIM anymore ...  lol
[04:14] <clever_> banie: you could try setting the network manager to use a static ip and not dhcp
[04:15] <cfgnunes> What is the term "lol"?
[04:15] <banie> disable dhcp in router?
[04:15] <banie> network manager?
[04:15] <nicedreams> lol?   laugh out loud?
[04:15] <clever_> banie: no that would break every pc in the house that depends on dhcp
[04:15] <cfgnunes> dhcp need be configured
[04:15] <Nexus> ok, cuz MSN Messenger (for Windows) is (I think that) the best... but I dont found something for Linux :S
[04:15] <Shootfaster> network manager is the culprit
[04:15] <xtknight> !info amsn
[04:15] <zero88> xtknight ok. now say if i use the command find / -name *mysql* and deleted all the files it found.would it delete it from that apt-get file? because everytime i download something knew.it gives me erroes saying im missing something like mysql, and all the things ive used that command to delete
[04:15] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[04:15] <Nexus> (sorry... I speack spanish...)
[04:15] <aw> I am using Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell XPS M1210 laptop... I have the really odd problem where I can read data off a CD, but if I try and read an audio track it crashes the whole system.. it never did this before
[04:15] <cfgnunes> amsn is good too...
[04:15] <xtknight> zero88, deleting from that file is a horrible idea
[04:15] <Shootfaster> Nexus - Gaim has msn
[04:16] <False_Courage> Shootfaster, it is no longer game Pigen im
[04:16] <xtknight> zero88, what are you having trouble with or what are you trying to do (context/backtrack?)
[04:16] <Nexus> okok.. fine.. but MSN Messenger is more beautiful =)
[04:16] <False_Courage> or something along those lines...
[04:16] <zero88> xtknight that command would delete from it right?
[04:16] <nicedreams> gaim has irc/msn/yahoo/icq/aol/ others
[04:16] <AaronfromChina> Is there any utility which allows to convert MP3 to RealAudio.?
[04:16] <banie> clever_:where i can find network manager?
[04:16] <cfgnunes> Nexus - Gaim is the KING!
[04:16] <clever_> banie: the network manager your setting the dns ip in
[04:16] <False_Courage> What would I have to grab to make a webcam built into a laptop work w/ ubuntu?
[04:16] <Nexus> No xD ! MSN Mesenger is the King =)
[04:16] <xtknight> zero88, not from /var/lib/dpkg/status i dont think since it doesnt contain "mysql" in the filename.  still find / - name *mysql* is a bad idea
[04:16] <nicedreams> it's PIDGIN
[04:16] <False_Courage> Also, is there anything that deals with finger print scanners? :P
[04:17] <zero88> xtknight no.i made a script that uses that command.ive used it to delete mysql wich i downlaod with apt-get.and everyitme i dl something knew with apt-get.i get an error saying im missing mysql
[04:17] <Nexus> you really know about MSN Messnger ?
[04:17] <Shootfaster> oh yeah, forgot they changed it
[04:17] <xtknight> False_Courage, suse had a finger scan login on gdm so there's something open source out there
[04:17] <wastrel> it's still called gaim in the repos
[04:17] <xtknight> zero88, why dont you just remove the mysql package?
[04:17] <zero88> xtknight ya ive used that to delete a few things
[04:17] <False_Courage> xtknight, many thanks!
[04:17] <xtknight> zero88, it is a much better idea than deleting its contents
[04:17] <zero88> xtknigt because it doesnt delete everything
[04:17] <banie> clever_: i change it to static
[04:17] <False_Courage> I'll look into it, however do you know of anything that would work with a builtin web cam? (I do not have a model number :'( )
[04:18] <Shootfaster> use purge instead
[04:18] <clever_> banie: that might help:)
[04:18] <xtknight> zero88, sudo dpkg --purge mysql-common
[04:18] <zero88> ive used purge
[04:18] <Combat> hw u there
[04:18] <zero88> xtknight even that will still leave a few files behind
[04:18] <xtknight> zero88, it is deleting everything in the package.  other stuff that is not being deleted is elsewhere perhaps in another package.  whatever it is not deleting, perform "dpkg -S /file/it/is/not/deleting".  that will tell you what pkg it is in.
[04:18] <timothy> hey, what's the best opensource 8th grade level geometry application?
[04:18] <banie> clever_: network manager has conf file right?
[04:19] <xtknight> timothy, hrm geometry?  what do you mean really?
[04:19] <clever_> banie: yeah but i dont know what its called
[04:19] <zero88> xtknight ok,so how would i go about fixing what i have already done?
[04:19] <banie> clever_: ok thanks 4 helping :D
[04:19] <Combat> what i do next
[04:19] <Combat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047/
[04:19] <timothy> xtknight: well, like geometers sketch pad, like kig except a little more powerfull
[04:19] <DVS01> i tried to remove alsa drivers and ended up almost removing half of the os
[04:19] <DVS01> i interrupted it though
[04:19] <DVS01> is there a way to reinstall any packages that may have been messed up?
[04:19] <DVS01> or to know what they were
[04:20] <nicedreams> So I install Ubuntu and do [sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common]  and [sudo nvidia-xconfig]  and everything works great.  I do an [aptitude upgrade]  and now X won't start complaining about "Can't load kernel module" and "No screens found".  I have tried [sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg]  and it still has the same error when I reboot.  What can I do next to get this to work????
[04:20] <clever_> DVS01: check /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:20] <xtknight> zero88, well what are you trying to do overall?  just install mysql?
[04:20] <nicedreams> I'm about to reinstall and never upgrade again
[04:20] <O2> hello
[04:21] <zero88> xtknight no.i just used that as an example becuase i had that and deleted it with that command.and i get an error when i download apt-get packages saying im missing mysql.
[04:21] <xtknight> zero88, by using find mysql | xargs -l1 rm -f you could have removed a lot of packages though.  see "apt-file search mysql"
[04:21] <bruenig> nicedreams, I bet you upgrade
[04:21] <nicedreams> lol
[04:21] <O2> who could tell me what software could play mpeg4 avi files??
[04:21] <bruenig> O2, totem can
[04:21] <xtknight> timothy, like a whiteboard that receives commands from a wacom pen tablet??
[04:21] <DVS01> clever_: first culprit is 'remove kubuntu-desktop'. if i install that, will it recover everything else?
[04:21] <O2> totem?
[04:21] <zero88> xtknight and that im missing everything else ive deleted
[04:21] <xtknight> timothy, or the mouse i guess
[04:21] <bruenig> O2, movie player I think is the generic name ubuntu gives it
[04:21] <clever_> DVS01: maybe
[04:22] <xtknight> zero88, oh.  pasteibn the error about mysql
[04:22] <nicedreams> come on now...there has to be something simple for this to work for me again
[04:22] <jcrose> anyone know how to fix a screen resolution problem?
[04:22] <xtknight> !pastebin
[04:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:22] <xtknight> !fixres
[04:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:22] <O2> bruenig, but it tell me that it hasn't the codec
[04:22] <zero88> xtknight ok give me a second
[04:22] <wastrel> nicedreams:  reinstall nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common etc,  redo the nvidia config as if you never did it before
[04:22] <xtknight> !fixres | jcrose
[04:22] <ubotu> jcrose: please see above
[04:22] <clever_> DVS01: you would have to go thru the list and see what else might be missing
[04:22] <bruenig> !codecs | O2
[04:22] <ubotu> O2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:22] <bill_k> can anyone help with a simple unrar command?  I think i have syntax wrong.
[04:22] <clever_> DVS01: but kubuntu-desktop will get alot
[04:22] <bruenig> bill_k, unrar e whatever.rar
[04:22] <xtknight> bill_k, unrar x <RARFILE>
[04:22] <DVS01> clever_: it looks like its catching pretty much everything
[04:22] <bill_k> read the man page, but still having trouble http://pastebin.ca/443899
[04:22] <xtknight> x preserves dir structure, e does not
[04:22] <bruenig> e or x
[04:22] <bruenig> dir structure, who needs that
[04:22] <xtknight> me
[04:22] <nicedreams> wastrel >>>  I forgot to mention I did that too.  I even puged them to make sure the third time
[04:22] <DVS01> clever_: is there a way to remove the alsa drivers so i can compile a newer version, without ending up removing half the os?
[04:23] <nicedreams> I guess I can try the www.nvidia.com driver
[04:23] <timothy> xtknight: well, I want to be able to say make line segments, circles, tangential lines, find find the coordinates of points on those lines, do simple excell formula like computations bassed on those coordinates,line lengths,and radiuses
[04:23] <bill_k> bruenig: xtknight can you peek at the pastebin? http://pastebin.ca/443899
[04:23] <clever_> DVS01: dont know
[04:23] <Combat> anyone help me on this
[04:23] <Combat> installing
[04:23] <O2> its too fast here
[04:23] <Combat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047/
[04:23] <xtknight> timothy, ahh hmm i'm not sure what program would do it.  i know exactly what you are talking about though.
[04:23] <bruenig> that is one crazy rar there bill_k
[04:23] <O2> my eyes gone mad with so many people chatting
[04:23] <{lobo}> who can help me in xchat
[04:23] <m4st3r> on Windows or Linux, what language ,like VisualBasic, make GUI program fast and easy?.......right english?
[04:24] <clever_> O2: yeah it can take a while to get used to this many people chating at once
[04:24] <xtknight> m4st3r, gambas
[04:24] <nicedreams> i'm just unlucky with nvidia and ubuntu......  i've had this issue for 2 years now every single time
[04:24] <bill_k> bruenig: any hope?  or do I need to use windoze?
[04:24] <m4st3r> gambas?
[04:24] <xtknight> !info gambas | m4st3r
[04:24] <ubotu> m4st3r: gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15-1 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[04:24] <O2> how can i filter those not relative with me?
[04:24] <xtknight> it is exactly like Visual basic
[04:24] <Shootfaster> nicedreams - nvidia is always bad with kernel upgrades
[04:24] <bill_k> O2: just have people address you, should show up highlighted
[04:24] <xtknight> i believe the 64bit version is broken, sadly
[04:24] <bruenig> bill_k, unrar's doc is awful. I don't understand the asterisk, what is the function of that
[04:24] <m4st3r> xtknight //thanks
[04:24] <nicedreams> I've done ATI and I've had worse luck
[04:24] <xtknight> yeah it does suck
[04:25] <bill_k> all files
[04:25] <nicedreams> well...back to googling everything keyword I can find
[04:25] <bill_k> it was unrar command switch_1 switch_n rar files output dir
[04:25] <DVS01> oh how nice.. gnome is gone
[04:25] <xtknight> bill_k, you need the "x" operation
[04:25] <bruenig> bill_k, you don't need to specify files, I think it does that on its own
[04:25] <Shootfaster> try deleting the current xorg.conf and all the backups, then re-run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <bruenig> or maybe it defaults all unless otherwise specified
[04:25] <xtknight> bill_k, no idea what -r means though
[04:25] <nicedreams> i'll try that...  thx
[04:25] <bill_k> Do i need the recursive
[04:25] <bill_k> ?
[04:25] <xtknight> recurse subdirectories(of what?)
[04:25] <Shootfaster> and make sure you select "nv" for the driver
[04:26] <phobiac> I'm trying to set up an apache2 server. I've got it installed and started, but whenever I try to access any of the files in apache2-default to test if it's running I got a not found error.
[04:26] <bill_k> in the rar
[04:26] <nicedreams> Do 'nv' and then try 'nvidia' later?
[04:26] <xtknight> extract .rars within a .rar?
[04:26] <bill_k> no
[04:26] <Shootfaster> do not use that version of nvidia
[04:26] <bruenig> bill_k, try changing the -r to -x and removing the asterisk
[04:26] <bill_k> just directories that are zipped inside
[04:26] <bill_k> sure
[04:26] <reiki> in Feisty. How the heck do I change a volume name? So my drives show up with names
[04:26] <xtknight> bill_k, that's not what -r does though
[04:26] <DVS01> man that sucks
[04:26] <O2> how to highlight the chatting content to me?
[04:26] <Shootfaster> you can reinstall the modules afterwards and then try them
[04:26] <bruenig> !feisty | reiki
[04:26] <ubotu> reiki: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:26] <DVS01> i just lost like half of my system trying to remove the sound driver
[04:26] <phobiac> For example when I try to go to http://192.168.1.222/apache2-default/apache_pb.gif I get that the file wasn't found.
[04:27] <Shootfaster> but do not try with the ones currently installed (as quite obviously theres a problm :P)
[04:27] <xtknight> bill_k, it would extract rars recursively i assume.  because the "x" operation is the preserve-directory extract, and "e" is the lose-directory-structure extract
[04:27] <DVS01> is there a way to remove the alsa drivers without removing everything else?
[04:27] <zero88> !pastebin
[04:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <xtknight> just with x you would have all your folders
[04:27] <bruenig> xtknight, unless he means he has rars inside the rar, which would be odd
[04:27] <xtknight> bruenig, yeah
[04:27] <m4st3r> xtknight //Gambas is based C?...how about wxpython?
[04:27] <phobiac> Anybody have a guess at what I can do?
[04:27] <zero88> xtknight
[04:28] <xtknight> bill_k, cd /media/drive2; unrar x -pPASSWORD /escaped/path/to/RAR
[04:28] <Combat> how can you tell ur my own root "combatmode@Combat"
[04:28] <xtknight> bill_k, that is all you need i believe
[04:28] <phobiac> I'm almost postive it's a permissions issue. I have the files able to execute and be read by others though.
[04:28] <nicedreams> type 'whoami'
[04:28] <bill_k> what is escaped?
[04:28] <zero88> xtknight http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16049/
[04:28] <bruenig> bill_k, the \'s in front of spaces
[04:29] <xtknight> bill_k, "/media/externalhdd/billy\'s\ stuff/archive.rar" is correct.
[04:29] <bill_k> bruenig: i just use tab :)
[04:29] <xtknight> yeah it does it for you
[04:29] <xtknight> zero88, k
[04:29] <wastrel> whoami
[04:29] <clever_> xtknight: you dont need to escape the spaces if your quoting the whole thing
[04:29] <bruenig> wastrel, type "/exec -o whoami
[04:29] <nicedreams> Shootfaster >>>  Now I have no video at all and no console access...  LOL   I'm out for now.  Just sucks I did a brand new install of Ubuntu last night...  Installed Nvidia Drivers the Ubuntu way and it worked fine and then do an Upgrade and it breaks.  Oh well....   Good night guys...
[04:29] <xtknight> clever_, hm depends on the program
[04:29] <bruenig> "
[04:29] <TTT_Travis> Hi, I want to have my Ubuntu computer automatically Hibernate at a certain time each night, this much I can handle, but I also want my pc to boot up at a certain time each morning, is this possible or would it be a bios restriction?
[04:29] <xtknight> zero88, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:30] <wastrel> root
[04:30] <clever_> xtknight: bash will remove the ""'s and give the \ 's with the \'s to unrar as a single large arg
[04:30] <zero88> xtknight ok will do thanks
[04:30] <xtknight> zero88, this will rebuild your Debian pkg database
[04:30] <bruenig> logged in as root, hmmm
[04:30] <DVS01> wow.. ive got to say that this was awesome.. i just totally fixed it with a couple of apt-get commmands.. even all my old beryl settings are back and it starts up automatically like it did before
[04:30] <zero88> xtknight ok thanks alot
[04:30] <DVS01> <3 linux
[04:30] <Shootfaster> nicedreams - WHAT?!
[04:30] <StowersAngle> what are you talking about?
[04:30] <xtknight> zero88, well dont thank me unless that fixes it :)
[04:30] <Combat> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php
[04:30] <Shootfaster> nicedreams - howd you loose console!?!
[04:30] <phobiac> TTT_Travis: I've seen computers able to do that, it depends on the BIOS.
[04:30] <xtknight> clever_, ahh
[04:30] <zero88> xtknight ok, well hopefully it will :)
[04:30] <Combat> for that which one is more easly install
[04:30] <Combat> rpm format or tar?
[04:30] <nicedreams> shootfaster >>>  my LCD just says no video and I can't do anything
[04:30] <bruenig> Combat, always go with tar
[04:31] <xtknight> !rpm
[04:31] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:31] <TTT_Travis> phobiac yeah I am thinking this computer probably doesn't have it considering it's 5 years old
[04:31] <clever_> xtknight: play with stuff like echo '\ ' and echo \  and other combinations
[04:31] <Combat> can you help me go through the  install
[04:31] <phobiac> TTT_Travis: Try using F8 to boot to the BIOS settings and see if it can.
[04:31] <clever_> xtknight: and stuff like echo *
[04:31] <Combat> i new to it
[04:31] <nicedreams> I'll just reformat and do the nvidia drivers last...  I just hate that LinuxMCE takes forever to install
[04:31] <Shootfaster> be lucky, at the moment my ubuntu wont even install for me to start the MCE
[04:31] <phobiac> TTT_Travis: Hmm, it could. Never hurts to check. Just press F8 while it's booting, or was it f12? One o them
[04:31] <nicedreams> lol
[04:31] <zero88> xtknight ya.i spoke to soon
[04:31] <xtknight> clever_, so when you type "here is a spacey path"  the program is not receiving "here" "is" in separate variables?  i know on windows it combines them into one variable and sends it to the program but didnt know about linux
[04:31] <nicedreams> see ya'll later.. thx for the help
[04:32] <Shootfaster> see ya
[04:32] <boris55> is there going to be a release candidate?
[04:32] <xtknight> yes we just dont know when
[04:32] <Combat> how to install tar
[04:32] <bill_k> bruenig: xtknight: "cannot create ./whatever rar file.***
[04:32] <clever_> xtknight: because of the quotes that entire phrase is a single argument
[04:32] <bill_k> No such file or directory
[04:32] <xtknight> bill_k, paste what you typed please
[04:32] <jrib> Combat: you already have tar
[04:32] <bill_k> it lists hundreds of the files
[04:32] <xtknight> clever_, cool.  got it.
[04:32] <bill_k> had to break
[04:33] <bruenig> Combat, download the tar.gz, get all the stuff you need with "sudo apt-get install build-essential" Then extract the tar.gz and cd into the extracted directory. Then run "sudo make install" and then "ripconfig" after that.
[04:33] <wims> when is the feisty release ?
[04:33] <xtknight> bill_k, make sure you have permissions there.
[04:33] <clever_> xtknight: but if you dont put quotes there it will give each space seperated word its own arugemt
[04:33] <DVS01> i want to uninstall alsa, then compile a newer version. is there a way to prevent removal of the alsa driver from removing all of x too?
[04:33] <TTT_Travis> is there a command to put ubuntu in standby via terminal?
[04:33] <xtknight> wims, it could be delayed due to kernel regressions but it was scheduled for april 19th
[04:33] <xtknight> TTT_Travis, yes probably 'man shutdown'
[04:33] <wims> oh ok
[04:33] <wims> i got the beta anyway
[04:33] <wims> i just wanted to know when it goes gold
[04:33] <xtknight> TTT_Travis, hrm it's not 'shutdown' but there is a cmd
[04:34] <clever_> xtknight: i played with /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh i think
[04:34] <clever_> but my system often locked up when resuming so i didnt use it much
[04:34] <xtknight>  TTT_Travis ^
[04:34] <xtknight> bill__k, make sure you have permissions there.
[04:34] <bill__k> xtknight, bruenig unrar x -pmypassword /media/externalhdd/billy\'s\ stuff/me.rar (while working in directory i wished to extract to)
[04:34] <bill__k> sudo it?
[04:34] <StowersAngle> Where R U Girl's?
[04:34] <xtknight> bill__k, nononononono nooo
[04:35] <bill__k> ok
[04:35] <xtknight> bill__k, 70gigs of root files? :P
[04:35] <bill__k> chmod 777
[04:35] <xtknight> bill__k, well what was the owner of them?
[04:35] <StowersAngle> Fuck Of N Die U Stupid Fucking AssHolE
[04:35] <xtknight> !ops
[04:35] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[04:35] <StowersAngle> :)
[04:35] <bruenig> he goes straight for ops
[04:35] <bruenig> no !ohmy, come on
[04:35] <xtknight> waste of ubotu lol
[04:35] <Combat> if i extra to dir > ex: desktop then i would need to go to terminal and cd to the dir then sudo make instla and then ripconfig
[04:35] <clever_> i was having kernel oop's a few days ago but they havent come back since the reboot
[04:35] <bruenig> Combat, correct
[04:36] <bill__k> xtknight, would ls -alAg /media/,.../blah.rar do it?
[04:36] <Combat> ^^ thx rite now update my old ubuntu v 5.10
[04:36] <xtknight> bill__k, not sure what that would do?
[04:36] <Bales> Completely off topic, anyone know anything about Political Science and able to help me with a research paper for school? :-) (is this legal?)
[04:36] <Combat> installing updates
[04:36] <Combat> how long it takes.
[04:36] <bill__k> -rwxr-xr-x 1   99 76761847796 2007-02-11 06:43 me.rar
[04:36] <xtknight> bill__k, what  is in the rar file? anything permissions-sensitive?
[04:37] <bill__k> well, it's encrypted w/ a password, and the filenames are encrypted too
[04:37] <bill__k> it was made on a windoze box
[04:37] <bruenig> bill__k, that is quote a collection of ahem videos there
[04:37] <bruenig> quite*
[04:37] <bill__k> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    65536 1969-12-31 18:00 drive2
[04:37] <bill__k> tunes
[04:37] <DVS01> how do i specify the default desktop manager?
[04:38] <bruenig> riiight, tunes
[04:38] <diabolix> is there a mirror of gnomethemes.org somewhere?
[04:38] <jpsamara> 76GB of pr0n
[04:38] <bill__k> thought my roomate got caught dling off limewire, so I organized stuff and packed it up
[04:38] <bill__k> psh
[04:38] <clever[rev] > xtknigh: lol
[04:38] <bill__k> 0 bytes pr0n
[04:38] <wastrel> diabolix:  art.gnome.org  www.gnome-look.org
[04:38] <bruenig> they can't break throuh rar passwords, no way
[04:38] <bill__k> 0 bits*
[04:38] <jpsamara> lol
[04:39] <clever[rev] > xtknight: i just try to speak of the kernel opps and the wireless driver dies on me to stop it
[04:39] <Fathefner> what is the best wireless manger for ubuntu other than ndiswrapper
[04:39] <EADG> 76Gb of copyright violations...
[04:39] <bill__k> am I 61.***
[04:39] <wims> is it possible to make it so that i get a panel on my right monitor that contains the program that i run on that monitor and a panel on my left containing the program i run on my left monitor, like its possible in windows with UltraMon ?
[04:39] <bill__k> most of it wasn't
[04:39] <jpsamara> poor RIAA
[04:39] <jpsamara> lol
[04:39] <bill__k> lawl
[04:39] <wims> i'm using gnome btw
[04:39] <diabolix> wastrel, they don't have what i want
[04:39] <Timeline> Hey all
[04:39] <xtknight> bill__k, anyways if the permissions dont matter then just sudo it i guess.  you can always change perms later
[04:39] <bill__k> mkay
[04:39] <wastrel> diabolix:  themes.freshmeat.net
[04:40] <xtknight> clever[rev] , huh?
[04:40] <diabolix> i'm looking for the murrine theme for metacity.
[04:40] <cblack0> hey all, long-time linux user, just finished my first ubuntu install. Any tips on what to do on a new install to get everything all set? I already have kde the way I like it w/ desktops and such. I am on the 704 beta btw
[04:40] <bruenig> !feisty | cblack0
[04:40] <ubotu> cblack0: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:40] <Fathefner> what is the best wireless manger for ubuntu other than ndiswrapper
[04:40] <xtknight> ndiswrapper is a wrapper for windows drivers and not really a wireless manager
[04:40] <clever[rev] > xtknight: tryed to talk about my kernel oop's i was having and the kernel went and tryed to shut me op:P
[04:40] <Shootfaster> knetworkmanager
[04:40] <xtknight> maybe you're thinking of network-manager
[04:40] <beg1689> i cant wait until 8.04
[04:40] <wastrel> cblack0:  installing flash and codecs and whatnot.
[04:40] <pavs> madwifi?
[04:40] <Duckinthetrunk> i'm having trouble installing
[04:41] <Timeline> Is there a way to edit the windows registry from within unbuntu?
[04:41] <bill__k> w00t sudo worked
[04:41] <Duckinthetrunk> problems iwth the sound driver
[04:41] <Combat> Where can i download the lastest ubuntu verisions?
[04:41] <xtknight> Timeline, which windows registry?  wine or a real windows installation?
[04:41] <Combat> versions?
[04:41] <cblack0> wastrel: sounds like a good plan. Do I just use adept/apt to search for flash and such?
[04:41] <ardchoille> !download
[04:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:41] <wims> combat ubuntu.com
[04:41] <wastrel> !codecs | cblack0
[04:41] <ubotu> cblack0: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <Duckinthetrunk> is there a way to kill it in th ecommand line?
[04:41] <xtknight> Timeline, hrmm there might be a way but i don't know.  tools from sysinternals can edit the windows registry remotely, i think but those are windows tools
[04:41] <Timeline> xtknight: Real Windows XP
[04:41] <wastrel> cblack0:  the ubuntu wiki has a lot of good info on doing things the Ubuntu Way.  also check the bot keyword list it's very helpful
[04:41] <xtknight> Timeline, out of curiosity, why?
[04:41] <cables> For some reason, one of the options in the "open with" list for OpenOffice.org files is Wine, and it's non-removeable. How can I remove it manually?
[04:42] <wastrel> cblack0:  ttp://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <cblack0> will do. any good wiki starting page?
[04:42] <wastrel> er,  s/ttp/http/
[04:42] <bill__k> xtknight, bruenig thanks for your help, extracting now.  Just hope media/drive2 (empty 80gb drive) doesnt fill up before it finishes!
[04:42] <bruenig> Timeline, you could try going to the regedit.exe and opening it wine
[04:42] <innerreflection_> linux newb here... in dire need of help with audio problems with ventrilo/wine/alsa... I have an nforce2 chipset and have tried many of the online guide to no avail. (irc newb too, be gentile) =(
[04:42] <Combat> where do i find or download and install the effects switching tabs
[04:42] <wastrel> cblack0:  i usually direct-link in from one of the bot factoids, or search.
[04:42] <Combat> like alt tab to next screen
[04:42] <Combat> xgl?
[04:42] <cblack0> cool, omw
[04:43] <Timeline> xtknight: Fixing a notebook which can't boot, need to reset the admin password to run the recovery console from the CD
[04:43] <EADG> cblack0: www.kde-look.org  lots of stuff to d\l and try out. Yakuake is a fav of mine.
[04:43] <SeveredCross> Yakuake is awesome.
[04:43] <Duckinthetrunk> anyone know how to disable the sound in the installer?
[04:43] <xtknight> Timeline, ah ugh...hmm.  i know there are other tools than linux to reset the admin pw though
[04:43] <cables> Seveas, I'm just trying Tilda now.
[04:43] <cables> Seveas, not you
[04:43] <Shootfaster> Combat - are you looking to install beryl?
[04:43] <cables> SeveredCross, trying Tilda (Gnome Yakuake) now
[04:43] <bill__k> ugh, this unrar is going to take DAYS
[04:43] <SeveredCross> How big is your file bill__k?
[04:43] <bill__k> the proprietary windows may be better...
[04:43] <cblack0> so is yakauke just a bunch of effects or is it a theme?
[04:43] <SeveredCross> It's a program.
[04:44] <SeveredCross> It's a console that drops down from the top of your screen
[04:44] <Timeline> xtknight: Really? I'll take whatever can work
[04:44] <Shootfaster> is that the quake style terminal?
[04:44] <SeveredCross> Yes Shootfaster.
[04:44] <EADG> cblack0: drop down terminal proggy.
[04:44] <xtknight> Timeline, my advice is to google it or head over to ##windows
[04:44] <cblack0> ah, so you can exec stuff w/o being in a term?
[04:44] <xtknight> yea
[04:44] <cables> innerreflection_, i can help.
[04:44] <cblack0> nice.
[04:44] <SeveredCross> cblack0: It's still a terminal, just comes down from the top of the screen
[04:44] <bill__k> SeveredCross, -rwxr-xr-x 1   99 76761847796 2007-02-11 06:43 archive.rar
[04:44] <SeveredCross> HOLY CRAP
[04:44] <ardchoille> cblack0: Tried: ALT+F2  ?
[04:44] <Timeline> xtknight: ##windows or #windows?
[04:44] <cblack0> btw, I just need to take this opportunity to point out how much the names of many open source projects suck. Thanks.
[04:44] <SeveredCross> 71 GB?!
[04:45] <innerreflection_> oh thank you cables. =) what should I do, where to start?
[04:45] <Duckinthetrunk> can anyone help setting up ubuntu?
[04:45] <Duckinthetrunk> really simple q
[04:45] <cblack0> ardchoille: I already remapped that, I am used to using alt-fn for desktops
[04:45] <SeveredCross> cblack0: What's so bad about Yakuake?
[04:45] <xtknight> Timeline, go to #windows  it will redirect you to the right one
[04:45] <Shootfaster> i can help
[04:45] <cables> innerreflection_, do you have Universe enabled?
[04:45] <bill__k> it's ~70gb so 76761847796 is 76 billion bytes?
[04:45] <Timeline> xtknight: ok
[04:45] <Timeline> xtknight: Thanks
[04:45] <ardchoille> cblack0: Ah, ok
[04:45] <Duckinthetrunk> my sound driver is causing the ubuntu installer to crash
[04:45] <Shootfaster> whats the problem Duck
[04:45] <bill__k> can't count the numbers
[04:45] <bill__k> lol
[04:45] <SeveredCross> bill__k: 71.49 GB, I calculted it, LOL.
[04:45] <innerreflection_> I believe so.
[04:45] <bill__k> lol
[04:45] <cables> innerreflection_, okay, open a terminal please
[04:45] <jpsamara> SeveredCross: what is yakuake?
[04:45] <Shootfaster> is this a fresh install or the live cd
[04:45] <cables> jpsamara, it's a dropdown terminal program
[04:45] <cblack0> SeveredCross: there is NO part of the name Yakuake that indicates what it may do. That is why that name is silly. Not to flame, just my opinion.
[04:45] <innerreflection_> k
[04:45] <Duckinthetrunk> fresh
[04:45] <SeveredCross> yakuake is a console that drops down from the top of your scream.
[04:45] <SeveredCross> *screen
[04:46] <cblack0> YakDropTerm would be better
[04:46] <bill__k> SeveredCross, you should bet money on whether it fills an 80gb empty drive when extracted
[04:46] <SeveredCross> cblack0: If you think about it...
[04:46] <SeveredCross> YA -- Yet Another
[04:46] <SeveredCross> Kuake - Quake, referring to the console style.
[04:46] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - Did sound work on the live cd?
[04:46] <bruenig> cblack0, I like terminalthatdropsfromthetopofthescreen
[04:46] <cables> innerreflection_, run: sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
[04:46] <Duckinthetrunk> i haven't used the live cd
[04:46] <Duckinthetrunk> kinda new to ubunut
[04:46] <bill__k> SeveredCross, hint* it's all *.mp[34] 
[04:46] <peepsalot> can anyone help me troubleshoot my audio?  it used to work, but I guess I broke it somehow
[04:46] <cblack0> SeveredCross: that is somewhat of a justification, but I still think the name sucks :)
[04:46] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - how did you install ubuntu
[04:46] <peepsalot> can't hear any sounds
[04:47] <innerreflection_> done, does it matter that alsa-oss is already installed?
[04:47] <Duckinthetrunk> downloaded the installer onto a cd
[04:47] <dfgas> i have a laptop with  geforce 6100 go  and my brightness controls don't work.... FN+ up or down.      how do i fix this?
[04:47] <cables> innerreflection_, no
[04:47] <cblack0> I imagine I can just apt-get yakuake, right?
[04:47] <cables> !who | InnerFIRE_
[04:47] <ubotu> InnerFIRE_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:47] <cables> InnerFIRE_, sorry
[04:47] <EADG> cblack0: yes
[04:47] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - ok, so after you insert the cd and boot it up, what happens?
[04:48] <innerreflection_> ok, cables... it's finished
[04:48] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, the install crashes when the first sound file plays
[04:48] <EADG> cblack0: try htop and iftop too. Nice cli programs.
[04:48] <SeveredCross> dfgas: Not many work..
[04:48] <cables> innerreflection_, now run the program with "aoss" before it (aoss wine path_to_ventrilo)
[04:48] <cblack0> is iftop like ntop?
[04:48] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, a friend of mine isolated the error to the sound driver crashing while loading
[04:48] <peepsalot> htop is so awesome
[04:48] <SeveredCross> dfgas: Fn-Up/Down are BIOS calls, that the Kernel doesn't know how to make.
[04:48] <cblack0> what does htop do?
[04:48] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - hmm... what version of ubuntu
[04:49] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, that's my best guess
[04:49] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, 6.10
[04:49] <EADG> cblack0: Not familiar with ntop... iftop tracks network traffic.
[04:49] <dfgas> SeveredCross, how do i control it then, when on battery it is way to dim during the day
[04:49] <cblack0> EADG: yep, that is what ntop does pretty much
[04:49] <SeveredCross> dfgas: Enter the BIOS on bootup and change the controls.
[04:49] <xtknight> you should be able to control lcd brightness via a driver
[04:49] <SeveredCross> :)
[04:49] <xtknight> at least on some laptops
[04:49] <EADG> htop is like top, only alot tastier.
[04:49] <cblack0> gotcha
[04:49] <shwag_> I made a change to my  /etc/host  file but it doesnt seem to be taking effect.
[04:50] <SeveredCross> What's top used for again?
[04:50] <shwag_> host thehostname  still list the ip that resolves from the nameservers.
[04:50] <xtknight> SeveredCross, seeing processes, cpu usage, mem usage, etc
[04:50] <qiyong> is amd64 supported? and is it pure64?
[04:50] <SeveredCross> Oooh.
[04:50] <cblack0> I'm looking forward to learning ubuntu, thinking of moving our development workstations over to it. Right now we are on opensuse
[04:50] <Deinumite> so...im hoping to fully migrate to linux when fiesty comes out but....gaming still keeps me on windows :(
[04:50] <peepsalot> SeveredCross, like taskmanager in Windows
[04:50] <xtknight> qiyong, amd64 iso is full of amd64 only binaries
[04:50] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - Im not sure if you can disable it from the live cd, you can try installing with the Alternate CD
[04:50] <SeveredCross> qiyong: There's an AMD64 version, but 32-bit programs have issues.
[04:50] <shwag_> cblack0: ubuntu is worth it.
[04:50] <SeveredCross> Well, some 32 bit programs do.
[04:50] <Shootfaster> Duckinthetrunk - that will give you a text based install
[04:50] <innerreflection_> ok. did it.. got "open input device failed" while testing the mic
[04:50] <cblack0> shwag: that is my hope :)
[04:50] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, how to i get the alt cd?
[04:50] <qiyong> Seveas, what issues?
[04:50] <SeveredCross> Plus, it's not nearly as stable.
[04:51] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, ubuntu.com?
[04:51] <qiyong> SeveredCross, what issue
[04:51] <Shootfaster> just go to ubuntu.com and click downloads
[04:51] <Shootfaster> yup :D
[04:51] <xtknight> 32bit programs are fine in amd64 for the most part
[04:51] <Racer5> Greetings from a complete noob :)  I just got ubuntu installed.
[04:51] <peepsalot> can anyone help me troubleshoot my nonexistant audio?
[04:51] <SeveredCross> qiyong: Some apps don't compile/run, and some aren't stable.
[04:51] <xtknight> it can run them natively
[04:51] <cblack0> I'm in an ISO/FDA regulated industry so I need to write a bunch of custom docs and deployment stuff, hope it makes management easy :)
[04:51] <Shootfaster> its all textual
[04:51] <shwag_> so is there a trick for the host file ?
[04:51] <Deinumite> grats racer5 :P
[04:51] <xtknight> it's proprietary 32-bit apps such as Flash that have the problems
[04:51] <xtknight> anything else can be run with linux32 and ia32 openoffice org libs most of the time
[04:51] <shwag_> does ubuntu have a dns cacher ?
[04:51] <xtknight> shwag, all linux OSes do
[04:51] <wastrel> cblack0:  if you're new to debian-type systems, get to know apt, it is so nice :]   apt-cache search <keyword>  apt-cache show <packagename> apt-cache policy <packagname>  mmmm
[04:52] <innerreflection_> the mic worked when a first installed wine & ventrilo, but not after I tried to use alsa to get it ro run with other programs
[04:52] <cblack0> wastrel: yep, I used debian like 5 years ago, but never got too into it
[04:52] <qiyong> does ubuntu support hp compaq presario v3000?
[04:52] <Deinumite> has anyone here got ATI drivers for a 9600 AND cedega / wine to work fully :P
[04:52] <cblack0> wastrel: one thing I need to learn how to do is set up a policy/update server so a select list of packages don't get updated to unvalidated (validated by me) versions when devels run apt-get update
[04:52] <shwag_> wastrel: policy is cool. didnt know about that one.
[04:52] <Racer5> If you all dont mind, just a simple question.  My windows drives are showing up on the desktop, but they are set as read only.  mtab is showing they are rw so I am guessing its a permissions thing.  How can I set them to be RW with my default account?
[04:53] <xtknight> Racer5, it is indeed a permissions thing.  root owners the partition right now
[04:53] <EADG> qiyong: I'm running Dapper on a R3K just fine, simialr lappys I believe.
[04:53] <cblack0> Racer5: you want to pass some options via fstab, such as -o uid=yourusername
[04:53] <lboaman> --quick question guys, maybe dumb, is it possible to go straight from hoary to feisty? or do i have to go to another one first?
[04:53] <SeveredCross> Err.
[04:53] <Deinumite> i always just opened a terminal and opened nautilus as root to move stuff around and change permissions
[04:53] <SeveredCross> You don't need -o
[04:53] <qiyong> EADG, r3k?
[04:53] <SeveredCross> :)
[04:53] <xtknight> Racer5, and with chmod *00 as it probably is right now ("stat -c %a /media/windowdrive") nobody else can access it.  you can either change chmod or owner
[04:53] <wastrel> cblack0:  you want apt pinning i think (i don't do much advanced package admin, so may be offbase...)
[04:54] <EADG> HP Presario R3000
[04:54] <SeveredCross> Just set where it says defaults,rw and stuff to defaults,rw,suid=1000
[04:54] <peepsalot> wow, hoary to feisty is quit a jump
[04:54] <qiyong> EADG, mine is v3239au
[04:54] <cblack0> wastrel: thanks for the potential terminology tho! that may help a bunch
[04:54] <SeveredCross> (1000 is generally the uid of the user)
[04:54] <lboaman> peeps-- yeah
[04:54] <peepsalot> probably better off reinstalling
[04:54] <lboaman> its been awhile
[04:54] <xtknight> Racer5, with NTFS you can use the umask=0022 to set permissions to 7755 (inverse).  root will still own it, but others can then access it.  you dont have to worry about uid= then
[04:54] <lboaman> ah bugger
[04:54] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfaster, where can i find the alternative cd?
[04:54] <Racer5> Thanks I will give that a shot.
[04:54] <cblack0> Duckinthetrunk: it is on all the same mirrors as the main one
[04:55] <AlanFuller> Hello all.
[04:55] <innerreflection_> any thoughts cables?
[04:55] <Duckinthetrunk> cblack0, thanks
[04:55] <EADG> qiyong: Load up the live cd and see if there are any issues.
[04:55] <cables> innerreflection_, i haven't gotten anything from you
[04:55] <cables> !who > innerreflection_
[04:55] <shwag_> isnt epiphany better then galeon now ?
[04:55] <Shootfaster> Um, gimme a sec
[04:55] <xtknight> i believe galeon was deprecated in favor of epiphany-browser
[04:55] <Richard_mlk_23> hi
[04:55] <Duckinthetrunk> cblack0, got it
[04:56] <lboaman> night folks!!
[04:56] <Richard_mlk_23>  i got a problem ... and i need help
[04:56] <ardchoille> shwag_: I thought those two browsers were merging their projects back together.
[04:56] <crdlb> shwag_, I'd say so, I don't think many people are still using galeon
[04:56] <AlanFuller> I'm about to start writing a paper that must be based on a topic in computer ethics. Given the meaning of Ubuntu, I thought maybe this linux distro may be a good topic to pick. Would anyone here have any knowledge of information sources that discuss the reasons why this linux distro exists on ethical grounds?
[04:56] <shwag_> ardchoille: for real ?
[04:56] <cblack0> hey, I just helped my first ubuntu user and I've only been installed 20m, go me :)
[04:56] <shwag_> crdlb: apt-cache show firefox   read the summary.
[04:56] <xtknight> !offtopic | AlanFuller
[04:56] <ubotu> AlanFuller: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:56] <qiyong> EADG, is it possible to install (bootstrap) amd64 from 32bit ?
[04:56] <Ax3> OK
[04:56] <Ax3> screw freenx
[04:56] <Ax3> jus tdon't use it at all
[04:56] <Ax3> use nomachine
[04:56] <Richard_mlk_23>  my gcc doesn't recognise  cross compiling anyone to help ?
[04:56] <crdlb> ardchoille, they are but no one got around to actually doing it :)
[04:56] <Ax3> everyone remember that LOL
[04:57] <ardchoille> crdlb: Ah, ok.
[04:57] <EADG> qiyong: if you mean run the 32bit version on your AMD 64, yes.
[04:57] <shwag_> how come I put a new entry in my host file but it doesnt work?  does resolv.conf take priority over /etc/hosts ?
[04:57] <wastrel> shwag_:  no, /etc/hosts should have priority
[04:57] <Richard_mlk_23> ANY ONE TO HELP ? MY GCC DOESN'T  RECOGNISE GCC CROSS COMPLING anyone can help ?
[04:57] <xtknight> dns cache probably
[04:57] <xtknight> !caps
[04:57] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:58] <shwag_> xtknight: is that built into ubuntu ?
[04:58] <Richard_mlk_23>  thank u
[04:58] <peepsalot> Don't Panic
[04:58] <xtknight> shwag, ubuntu does have a dns cache.  im not sure how to flush it
[04:58] <qiyong> EADG, my current distro is 32bit, i want to migrate it to 64bit, is it possible? i mean without CD, just download, install and reboot
[04:58] <shwag_> xtknight: doh!
[04:58] <Richard_mlk_23>  erm.. in ubuntu .. everything need to be install.. i install everything thati should
[04:58] <xtknight> qiyong, yeah i think that is possible.  debootstrap?
[04:59] <Richard_mlk_23>  but it still return error saying .. that my gcc doesn't have cross compiling
[04:59] <qiyong> xtknight, what's the difference to cdebootstrap?
[04:59] <Lincoln6Echo> quick question --- if I install 704beta --- will it upgrade to the final when it is released?
[04:59] <xtknight> qiyong, not sure
[04:59] <EADG> qiyong: Ohh, thats abit beyond my technical know-how...
[04:59] <xtknight> Lincoln6Echo, yes
[04:59] <wastrel> Lincoln6Echo:  yes
[04:59] <Lincoln6Echo> xtknight: thx :)
[04:59] <m4st3r> hey how about wxpython? is good?
[04:59] <Pelo> Richard_mlk_23,  look up the error msg in the forum
[04:59] <innerreflection_> serveral guides ask me to goto system > preferences > sound & disable "Enable sound server start"... I'm using 7.10, where are they talking about?
[05:00] <EADG> Ask in the channel or check the forums..
[05:00] <Richard_mlk_23>  where is the forum >
[05:00] <Richard_mlk_23> ?
[05:00] <Pelo> Richard_mlk_23,  www.ubuntuforums.com
[05:00] <Richard_mlk_23> thank u
[05:00] <xtknight> innerreflection_, "enable software sound mixing (ESD)"?
[05:01] <shwag_> so....no one in the ubuntu channel knows how to flush the dns cache ?
[05:01] <xtknight> shwag, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+flush+dns+cache&btnG=Google+Search
[05:01] <Pelo> shwag,  ctrl+f5 in firefox ?
[05:02] <shwag_> xtknight: i read that. it is people with the same problem, but no answer
[05:02] <shwag_> Pelo: CLI
[05:02] <Anunnaki> Hey guys, I tried Ubuntu for the first time earlier on a live CD and I was having problems with the display; I'm on a laptop right now and have a separate monitor hooked up to it. When Ubuntu booted up, the edges were all messed up (text looked squished and some went beyond the border) even though the monitor was aligned correctly. Does anyone know what was wrong?
[05:02] <Cosmo_> what does katapault do?
[05:02] <innerreflection_> xtknight, possibly... but they refer to it the same way each time... was wondering if the same option moved to a new location in 7.04 (whoops on 7.10)
[05:02] <Pelo> shwag,  no clue
[05:02] <onexused> When I used Windows, I could do things from "cmd" like "for %i in (*.bmp) do pngout %i" .  I can't for the life of me figure out how to do something like this from bash.  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:02] <Pelo> Cosmo_,  look it up in wikipedia
[05:02] <wastrel> onexused:  for i in $(ls *bmp); do <whatever>; done
[05:03] <wastrel> onexused:  i don't know what pngout is :] 
[05:03] <Cusoon969> evening
[05:03] <redwyrm> onexused, for i in *.bmp; do pngout $i; done
[05:03] <Lincoln6Echo> shwag:   /etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart ?
[05:03] <xtknight> ubuntu doesnt use the nscd daemon
[05:03] <cblack0> so, I need a quick adept/apt tip: how do I JUST update all ALREADY INSTALLED packages to the newer versions
[05:03] <xtknight> maybe 'networking'
[05:03] <Lincoln6Echo> ah
[05:03] <Combat> umm who help me before
[05:03] <wastrel> ah that's easier.  /me just likes $()
[05:03] <onexused> Ah, you need a "done".  That's why it kept giving me freaking ">" characters.  Thanks a lot.
[05:03] <xtknight> innerreflection_, 7.10 isnt out yet
[05:03] <redwyrm> np
[05:03] <Cusoon969> hmm
[05:03] <Combat> "sudo make install" does work but error
[05:03] <Combat> on somethin
[05:04] <cblack0> uncheck not installed and then fetch updates?
[05:04] <onexused> wastrel: It's just a program to convert files to png.  Was using it as an example
[05:04] <Pelo> Combat, knowing the error would heilp
[05:04] <Anunnaki> does anyone know what's wrong with my display?
[05:04] <wastrel> onexused:  imagemagick :] 
[05:04] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, What's your problem?
[05:04] <Cusoon969> Annunaki: What's it doing?
[05:04] <Combat> wheni download the tar.gz
[05:04] <Combat> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:04] <Anunnaki> I'm on a laptop right now and have a separate monitor hooked up to it. When Ubuntu booted up, the edges were all messed up (text looked squished and some went beyond the border) even though the monitor was aligned correctly.
[05:04] <innerreflection_> xtknight, yea, typo on the version.. that's why I said whoops
[05:04] <Combat> Then extract the tar.gz and cd into the extracted directory
[05:04] <Combat> Then run "sudo make install"
[05:05] <Pelo> Anunnaki,  h-rez v-sync maybe ?
[05:05] <Ltar> I want to uninstall Evolution---  Can I do it without crippling my system? I'm wary of uninstalling it from synaptec--- it's apparently tied to "ubuntu desktop". eek?
[05:05] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, Give me more info: Live CD, new install, after an upgrade? Did you just install any video drivers?
[05:05] <xtknight> innerreflection_, oh i got it
[05:05] <Combat> so give me a sec
[05:05] <Anunnaki> live cd
[05:05] <crdlb> !ubuntu-desktop | Ltar
[05:05] <ubotu> Ltar: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:05] <Shirakawasuna> what the...for some reason someone doesn't have alsaconf (I'm helping them work out a sound issue on ubuntu)
[05:05] <Shirakawasuna> doesn't alsaconf comes with alsa-utils?
[05:05] <jrib> Combat: what are you compiling?
[05:05] <xtknight> innerreflection_, i dont know ..  i think they are referring to ESD
[05:05] <Pelo> Combat,   that's a bit more involved then that   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:05] <myeur0> why and how are they booting me out of yahoo chat???????
[05:06] <innerreflection_> xtknight, k, thanks.
[05:06] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, so your laptop screen still functions correctly, it's just messed up?
[05:06] <Combat> im installing http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php
[05:06] <Combat> tar
[05:06] <Anunnaki> yeah, everything was working correctly, it was just a messed up display
[05:06] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, like, it's still showing graphics, they're just screwey?
[05:06] <Anunnaki> yeah
[05:06] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, Did you boot it with any commands?
[05:06] <Cusoon969> How do I get Ubuntu Feisty to do multiple monitors?
[05:06] <Anunnaki> nope, just booted it right off a live cd
[05:06] <jrib> Shirakawasuna: https://launchpad.net/products/alsa-utils/+bug/29597
[05:06] <xtknight> Cusoon969, what kind of video card do you have?
[05:06] <myeur0> all i get are disconnects
[05:07] <Pelo> Cusoon969,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <xtknight> Cusoon969, i'm using multimonitor right now on an Nvidia and it works nicely
[05:07] <Cusoon969> I have an Intel 950 GMA
[05:07] <xtknight> not really feisty specific
[05:07] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, ok, restart again, and when it comes to the start or install ubuntu screen, press F6 and add 'noapic nolapic' without the quotes and try that
[05:07] <shwag_> how do I find out what package a file belongs to ?
[05:07] <Cusoon969> I'm just wondering what package do i install
[05:07] <Juanca> jrib: hi, do you know anything about this error http://pastebin.ca/443835, trying to install windows?
[05:07] <xtknight> shwag, dpkg -S /file
[05:07] <Anunnaki> ok thank you very much, i'll try that
[05:07] <Combat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16052/
[05:07] <crdlb> Cusoon969, you can do it using mergedfb
[05:07] <Cusoon969> thx
[05:07] <Pelo> shwag,  what are you trying to acheive ?
[05:07] <jrib> Juanca: no, try ##windows though
[05:07] <Combat> pelo and jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16052/
[05:07] <joshjosh> Anunnaki, alright. good luck, see you in a few
[05:07] <Cusoon969> I'll reboot to ubuntu now
[05:07] <xtknight> shwag_*  see above
[05:07] <crdlb> Cusoon969, there's no package to install, but you have to set it up manually
[05:07] <Pelo> Combat,   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:08] <_phantom_> on my linux system I can find all the .h files (e.g. stdio.h) because they are in /usr/include but where are all the accompanying .c files?
[05:08] <myeur0> any 1 listening....or do yalll just think yahoo sux .....lol
[05:08] <shwag_> xtknight: ok
[05:08] <wastrel> shwag_:  apt-file search   but you need to build the apt-file thingy
[05:08] <xtknight> _phantom_, you only have linux-headers.  you need linux-source
[05:08] <_phantom_> how do I get linux-source?
[05:08] <Juanca> jrib: don't think so. Maybe could you help me istalling windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:08] <qiyong> !amd64
[05:08] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[05:08] <xtknight> _phantom_, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:09] <jrib> Juanca: once you install windows, you just reinstall grub, see ubotu:
[05:09] <jrib> !grub > Juanca    (Juanca, see the private message from ubotu)
[05:09] <_phantom_> xtknight: what use is just the header files?
[05:09] <xtknight> _phantom_, to compile modules without needing *.c files
[05:09] <blind> I have an external HD enclosure that I just formatted as vfat and mounted, but I can't write to it except as root. I've chmod'd it, but that didn't work. I tried chowning it, but it says Operation not permitted. How can I fix this?
[05:09] <Cusoon969> MergedFB wouldn't work for my card, but I think Xinerama would
[05:09] <Cusoon969> brb
[05:10] <blind> er, there's an hd in the enclosure, obviously.
[05:10] <Shirakawasuna> I can't seem to find an ubuntu guide for audio - am I an idiot?
[05:10] <xtknight> !audio
[05:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:10] <wastrel> _phantom_:  you can link against them and call kernel libs
[05:10] <_phantom_> xtknight: but how can they include the code needed for executeable if it is not there at compile time?
[05:10] <Combat> perlo im confuse
[05:10] <ksnipaz2> anyone know of any programs that can rip mms streams?
[05:10] <wastrel> _phantom_:  they don't include code, they include compiled code (objects)
[05:10] <xtknight> ksnipaz2, mplayer
[05:11] <Combat> if i need to install the extracted files from the folder
[05:11] <xtknight> _phantom_, i dont understand what you mean
[05:11] <jrib> Combat: common.mak:11: *** Is the kernel-source package installed? KERNELSRC does not point to a proper directory (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build).  Stop.
[05:11] <Shirakawasuna> xtknight: ah, thanks
[05:11] <_phantom_> wastrel: I see, thank you
[05:11] <EADG> ksnipaz2: what xtknight said.
[05:11] <xtknight> _phantom_, you referred to stdio.h.  that is actually not a linux-header it's in the std C libs.  linux-headers are all *.h files within /usr/src/linux
[05:11] <_phantom_> xtknight: how do I get the C source code?
[05:11] <xtknight> _phantom_, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:12] <ksnipaz2> I'll try mplayer again, I was was just having some issues with it
[05:12] <xtknight> mplayer is kinda complicated
[05:12] <xtknight> but they have some good docs
[05:12] <xtknight> google mplayer mms
[05:12] <Pelo> Combat,  first extract the folder,  then cd to the folder from the terminal,  then   ./configure  that will tell you if you have all the dependencies you need to perform the installation,   if you are missing some look for them in synaptic and then run ./configure again,  once ./configure goes all the way throught , you do make  and then sudo make install
[05:12] <EADG> I don't think I've seen a bigger man than mplayer.
[05:13] <Mattbds> when will feisty be final release?
[05:13] <blind> I have an external HD in an enclosure that I just formatted as vfat and mounted, but I can't write to it except as root. I've chmod'd it, but that didn't work. I tried chowning it, but it says Operation not permitted. How can I fix this?
[05:13] <Pelo> Mattbds, 19
[05:13] <xtknight> Mattbds, it was supposed to be released april 19 but may be delayed due to kernel regressions (bugs)
[05:13] <Mattbds> Kool
[05:13] <_phantom_> what is the console command to find all .c files on my system>/
[05:13] <cblack0> find / -name '*.c'
[05:13] <blind> _phantom_: sudo updatedb && locate *.c
[05:14] <cblack0> or find /whateverpath -name '*.c'
[05:14] <shukhrat> hi people
[05:14] <Cosmo_> gDesklets is stuck on loading up and I can't seem to close it, any ideas on how to close it?
[05:14] <xtknight> Cosmo_, killall gdesklets    ?
[05:14] <Shootfaster> hi shukhrat
[05:14] <Combat> pelo " ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:14] <Combat> "
[05:14] <innerreflection_> mic doesn't work in sound recorder... lil help
[05:14] <shukhrat> do we have alternative for Adobe pagemaker for linux?
[05:14] <xtknight> innerreflection_, have you screwed with the mixer?
[05:14] <Pelo> Combat,  look in the extracted folder for  a readme or install file  and read them carefully
[05:15] <xtknight> shukhrat, LaTeX
[05:15] <Pelo> shukhrat, http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[05:15] <innerreflection_> xtknight, alsamixer? yea, I've been in there a bit
[05:15] <Cosmo_> it says no processes killed, and I don't find them on Ksysguard
[05:15] <xtknight> innerreflection_, sorta.  what about  'gnome-volume-control'   ? it has more options i believe
[05:15] <xtknight> Cosmo_, gdesklets on kde?
[05:16] <Cosmo_> yeah
[05:16] <shukhrat> xtknight: this editors for newspaper isn't it ?
[05:16] <xtknight> Cosmo_, hrm well "ps ax | grep desklet"  see if you can find it in "ps ax"
[05:16] <xtknight> shukhrat, huh?
[05:16] <Cosmo_> I liked one of the applets and I couldn't find the same in kde
[05:16] <xtknight> shukhrat, http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/latex_advocacy.html
[05:16] <eodchop> Can anyone point me in the right direction on setting a an ftp site/server so i can access my file remotely?
[05:16] <colbert> how do I see cpu speed, ram, etc. in Ubuntu ?
[05:16] <wastrel> shukhrat:  scribus maybe
[05:16] <zYe_> help configuring my 7 button mouse
[05:16] <xtknight> !ftp
[05:16] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:17] <xtknight> !ftpd | eodchop
[05:17] <ubotu> eodchop: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:17] <cblack0> can someone point me to some docs/wiki/whatever on using adept to do a simple update of only already installed progs? or just info on adept and what all these checkboxes and buttons mean?
[05:17] <innerreflection_> xtknight, well it looks enabled in there to me
[05:17] <EADG> eodchop: google vsftpd
[05:17] <xtknight> cblack0, #kubuntu
[05:17] <xtknight> innerreflection_, pretty much impossible for me to help without knowing every option and switch you have in your mixer.  even then, i'd have to guess
[05:17] <cblack0> ah, is adept a kubuntu/kde-only thing?
[05:17] <xtknight> cblack0, yes,  synaptic is the GNOME equivalent
[05:17] <joshjosh> what's the feisty channel again?
[05:17] <Cosmo_> it says
[05:17] <Cosmo_> 5804 ?        S      0:00 python /usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-shell
[05:17] <Cosmo_>  7765 ?        S      0:00 python /usr/lib/gdesklets/gdesklets-shell
[05:17] <Cosmo_>  8494 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep desklet
[05:18] <xtknight> !feisty | joshjosh
[05:18] <ubotu> joshjosh: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:18] <qiyong> does mplayer available on ubuntu?
[05:18] <samk> I working on installing python and i need to get onto root how do I do that?
[05:18] <joshjosh> thanks buddy
[05:18] <xtknight> Cosmo_, kill 5804 && kill 7765
[05:18] <knix> Is there any way to get Qt to use my gtk2 theme? I can only find the Qt engine for gtk2, I want the opposite
[05:18] <xtknight> !root | samk
[05:18] <ubotu> samk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:18] <xtknight> qiyong, yes
[05:18] <xtknight> !info mplayer | qiyong
[05:18] <ubotu> qiyong: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[05:18] <Cosmo_> xtknight: thanks that got it
[05:19] <innerreflection_> xtknight, is there a way to set all sound options, drivers, etc etc... anything that I might have screwed up back to default?
[05:19] <Combat> Pelo i read the install instructions
[05:19] <Combat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16056/
[05:19] <qiyong> !vlc
[05:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:19] <derek> Hi
[05:19] <RickJones> !kstartupconfig
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kstartupconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <samk> it says it isnt a command
[05:19] <xtknight> innerreflection_, grab the alsa NAME of your card first.  `asoundconf list`
[05:19] <xtknight> innerreflection_, and then.  `alsactl restore CardName`
[05:20] <SnoopyTwo> Buh
[05:20] <samk> anybody know how to get into root on ubuntu
[05:20] <Pelo> Combat,  what is the name of the file you start from ? the compressed one ?
[05:20] <SnoopyTwo> sudo passwd ???
[05:20] <Combat> riptide-0.6lnxtbeta03122800.tar.gz
[05:20] <xtknight> innerreflection_, actually i think that restores YOUR settings.  im not sure about restoring everything default but i dont think it would help
[05:20] <xtknight> samk, you dont use root on ubuntu, really
[05:20] <xtknight> samk, if "command1" needs root, you simply run "sudo command1"
[05:20] <Rio79> ogm file extensions are video files with the capability of selecting between two different audio choices, correct?
[05:20] <eodchop> thanks for the suggestions. Any of them offer an guid experience
[05:21] <erpo> Hi. After a while, my mythtv box starts to get choppy video. Restarting X fixes the problem. I've noticed that when mythtv is running fine, Xorg CPU usage is low, but when mythtv is having problems with choppy video playback, Xorg CPU usage sucks up whatever isn't being used by mythfrontend and mythcommflag. What's wrong? What should I do?
[05:21] <Combat> so maybe like this cd riptide-{122800}?
[05:21] <xtknight> Rio79, ogm is a container for any multitude of video and audio streams
[05:21] <samk> ok then how do I let myself write on usr/local/bin
[05:21] <colbert> how can I see my cpu speed, ram, vid card specs etc. in Ubuntu ?
[05:21] <xtknight> samk, 'sudo make install' i assume is what you need to do
[05:21] <Pelo> Combat,  give me the link to where you got that package from please
[05:21] <xtknight> colbert, cat /proc/cpuinfo && cat /proc/meminfo && sudo lshw -class video
[05:21] <Combat> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php
[05:21] <Rio79> xtknight> okay... well the particular file that i have supposedly has an english audio and a japanese audio... how do i select between the two?  what player should i be using?
[05:21] <sonictwin> samk, use sudo
[05:22] <samk> Thank you very much
[05:22] <samk> Idid and it worked
[05:22] <samk> thank you
[05:22] <xtknight> Rio79, mplayer can switch between audio streams.  youll have to read the manual for that one though.  'man mplayer'.  VideoLAN client (VLC) may be able to also via GUI
[05:23] <Richard_mlk_23> how to join ubuntu forum?
[05:23] <samk> once I install python how do I get into the editor
[05:23] <Rio79> xtknight> okay, thanks mang
[05:23] <xtknight> Richard_mlk_23, http://ubuntuforums.org/register.php
[05:23] <xtknight> samk, you can use lots of editors with python
[05:23] <xtknight> samk, python is simply an interpreter
[05:23] <Pelo> Combat,  did you install  build-essential ?
[05:23] <xtknight> !info geany
[05:23] <ubotu> geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (edgy), package size 1076 kB, installed size 3664 kB
[05:23] <samk> so just use text editor or something?
[05:24] <xtknight> samk, i think 'geany' can edit python stuff.  'gedit' (the normal text editor) has Python syntax highlighting so it can be good
[05:24] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, my laptop dropped, and the display broke. It has been crashing randomly as well. I've already tested the RAM and HDD for faults, although I think it might have to do with my video card driver (the proprietary ATi). I switched to the OSS, but monitor output (kind of important 'coz the display is broken is acting funky, the screen spans over the monitors range, and the image is doubling back. Anyone know how to fix that, and also how t
[05:24] <Combat> yes
[05:24] <Combat> Pelo
[05:24] <samk> thanks
[05:24] <SnoopyTwo> anyone know have problems building pine in Ubuntu ????
[05:24] <Racer5> I am still not having any luck mounting my windows drive as rw.  my drive is sda1  what should my fstab look like?  I just want to simply be able to click the sda1 drive icon and have rw access.  I am apparently not setting the fstab correctly.
[05:24] <Combat> but then i close terminal. when it was finish.
[05:25] <Pelo> Combat,  well, that is pretty much it,   when you cd make sure you cd to the folder of the extracted files,  and follow the rest of the instrucitons,  if they donT' work there is nothing I can realy do for you
[05:25] <erpo> Racer5: If you're using windows 2000 or XP you'll need the ntfs-3g driver.
[05:25] <EADG> Anybody know how to paste copied text from tty session into xterm?
[05:25] <ph33rz> Racer5: you should try lookin up .. how to mount ntfs drive on ubuntu linux on google
[05:25] <xtknight> Racer5, ah yes you will need to use ntfs-3g for writing.  sorry i didnt mention that one earlier
[05:25] <Racer5> erpo:  Ahhh ha.  That must be my problem
[05:25] <Combat> Then run "sudo make install" and then "ripconfig" after that.?
[05:25] <ph33rz> right click the screen and hit paste
[05:25] <Pelo> Combat,  that is what the instructions say
[05:26] <xtknight> Racer5, the 'ntfs' kernel module as it is in Edgy and Feisty has only NTFS read.  ntfs-3g emulates windows' ntfs.sys for what should be reliable read and write support.  the kernel does contain partial stable write code under the "ntfs" module but it is not enabled at the moment.
[05:26] <EADG> ph33rz: hehe, I wish. I need to paste text from cli into xterm.
[05:26] <Combat> Is the kernel-source package installed?
[05:26] <qiyong> does amd64 work with w32 codecs well now?
[05:26] <ph33rz> ahh lol
[05:26] <Racer5> xt:  Thanks.  I just googled it and found it.  I will see if I can get it installed.
[05:26] <ph33rz> my bad i thought u were just talkin about text lol
[05:27] <Combat> and said make [install]  error 2
[05:27] <xtknight> !ntfs-3g | Racer5
[05:27] <ubotu> Racer5: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:27] <Pelo> Combat,  check synaptic for kernel source and make sure it is,   make sure you select the one with the matching number of the kernel you are using
[05:27] <SnoopyTwo> I assume that Ubuntu is a Debian linux so I try to build Pine that way "ldb' but I can't find libpam-dev or ncurses-dev ?
[05:27] <xtknight> linux-source is a virtual pkg that will point to linux-source-`uname -r`
[05:27] <xtknight> !info libpam-dev | SnoopyTwo
[05:27] <ubotu> snoopytwo: Package libpam-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:28] <kitsuneofdoom> well, that was slightly informative. Apparently, it's not the video driver. My laptop crashed.
[05:28] <frank227a> Hello
[05:28] <frank227a> Does anyone use Evolution mail?
[05:28] <Combat> how do i do that
[05:28] <Shootfast> Hello everyone
[05:28] <Combat> found out the synaptic for kernal source
[05:28] <xtknight> SnoopyTwo, libpam0g-dev - Development files for PAM
[05:28] <SnoopyTwo> anyone familiar with those?
[05:28] <Racer5> Ok, I know this is pretty lame, but how do I know if I am running Dapper or Edgy?
[05:28] <xtknight> SnoopyTwo, libncursesw5-dev - Developer's libraries for ncursesw
[05:28] <pibarnas> frank227a: me.
[05:28] <DVS01> is there a way to make my mouse's side keys work? mouse has 2 main buttons, a pressable mousewheel, then side buttons
[05:28] <Combat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16058/
[05:28] <Pelo> Combat,  jsut right click and select , then apply
[05:28] <xtknight> SnoopyTwo, er you want this probably: "libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses"
[05:28] <pibarnas> frank227a: what's the matter?
[05:29] <frank227a> pibarnas: It is listing 74 messages but I can not get any to display.
[05:29] <Pelo> Combat,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[05:29] <frank227a> pibarnas: Any idea how to get them to show?
[05:29] <ksnipaz2> any other players besides mplayer or vlc that can manage mms ripping?
[05:29] <SnoopyTwo> xtknight:  Thx... know anything about the libpam-dev libraries ??//
[05:29] <xtknight> SnoopyTwo, libpam0g-dev - Development files for PAM
[05:29] <RickJones> hi i tried to install kde on with gnome on my system, and now i have kde icons, but i'm selecting gnome for my session under login....any clues how to get it back to how it was ?
[05:29] <frank227a> pibarnas: It is showing 21 in the inbox.  If I click on the inbox nothing shows up to the right.  It is all white space.
[05:29] <Combat> Pelo right click which one
[05:30] <Combat> im in the synaptic p m menu screen
[05:30] <Shootfast> anyone have any ideas about this boot error? "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[05:30] <pibarnas> hum... it seems a permission issue... are they your user messages?
[05:30] <xtknight> Shootfast, what kind of system do you have?
[05:30] <SnoopyTwo> xtknight:  Outstanding... thanks... I'
[05:30] <SnoopyTwo> llgo get 'em
[05:30] <frank227a> pibarnas: Yes.
[05:30] <crdlb> Shootfast, are you on feisty?
[05:30] <xtknight> Shootfast, is this occurring on a livecd?
[05:30] <Combat> what do i right click on
[05:30] <Shootfast> well i get that error on all versions
[05:30] <Pelo> Combat,   try this instead, search for linux source and it sshould install the right one
[05:30] <Shootfast> dapper, edgy and feisty :S
[05:31] <xtknight> Shootfast, do you have a Core 2 duo by any chance?
[05:31] <Pelo> Combat,  you are in synaptic package manager right ?
[05:31] <redwyrm> what's a good audio recording app that uses ALSA?
[05:31] <Shootfast> xtnight yes core2, and only after install
[05:31] <xtknight> !info audacity | redwyrm
[05:31] <ubotu> redwyrm: audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[05:31] <frank227a> BRB
[05:31] <xtknight> Shootfast, well...support for Core2 is still coming
[05:31] <Shootfast> :o
[05:31] <xtknight> Shootfast, some motherboards work.  what's your motherboard's model?
[05:31] <Shootfast> it works on my other core 2...
[05:31] <xtknight> yeah im using a core 2 now also
[05:31] <Combat> the box has a green box i suppose is check
[05:31] <xtknight> it depends on the motherboard not the CPU
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, my laptop dropped, and the display broke. It has been crashing randomly as well. I've already tested the RAM and HDD for faults, and one long SMART test and about 7 passes of memtest 86 have come up clean. Anyone know how to test other components whether they work or not?
[05:32] <Shootfast> xtnight, i'll just check
[05:32] <Combat> yea i;m in my  synaptic package manager
[05:32] <Pelo> Combat,  if the box is green then it is installed , so you can forget about it
[05:32] <Amrog> (Hi) Is there some way to make items in the window list dragable so that they can be reordered? For example the way tabs can be dragged and ordered in firefox.
[05:32] <xtknight> Shootfast,  there are any number of kernel debug options you can use to try and get it working: "nolapic acpi=off noapic noacpi pci=routeirq irqpoll"
[05:32] <redwyrm> xtknight, audacity doesn't use ALSA, only OSS
[05:32] <Combat> u said go search for linux sourse and it should install the rite one?
[05:32] <MasterG> hi guys, could someone help me install the network admin tool again? it seems to have gone for some reason
[05:32] <xtknight> Shootfast, also "all-generic-ide" perhaps
[05:32] <kbrosnan> Amrog: sorry, no
[05:32] <Shootfast> i tried the only one i found suggested for ramdisk=8190
[05:33] <xtknight> MasterG, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[05:33] <Shootfast> xtnight, i'll try some others
[05:33] <xtknight> redwyrm, hrm any reason you need alsa?
[05:33] <MasterG> ok thankyou
[05:33] <Amrog> boo. Oh well. Thanks.
[05:33] <shukhrat> wastrel: scribus is suietible for newspaper publishing ?
[05:33] <Pelo> Combat,  goto the terminal and  type uname -r , note the number of the kernel,  that is the number of the kernel source you need to install ,  but I was under the impression you told me it was installed already ( green box)
[05:33] <redwyrm> xtknight, it allows sharing with other sound apps
[05:34] <Foon> oiya, how do I change my machine's host name permanently? I know about the hostname command... but I want it to be a permanent change
[05:34] <xtknight> redwyrm, ahh sorry im not sure.  i thouht audacity used alsa
[05:34] <xtknight> redwyrm, http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=LinuxIssues#OSS_vs_ALSA
[05:34] <MasterG> so thats the tool that usually resides in system->admin->Networking right?
[05:34] <wastrel> shukhrat:  i don't know.
[05:34] <xtknight> redwyrm, "Audacity can use ALSA natively if you compile it to use PortAudio v19 instead of ..."
[05:35] <Combat> my name which one the root or user name
[05:35] <Pelo> Combat,  I meany type pelo when you talk to me
[05:35] <xtknight> Foon, system->admin->Network
[05:35] <xtknight> MasterG, ah no it's not quite
[05:36] <MasterG> well thats the one I'm missing
[05:36] <MasterG> I've already got the one you said
[05:36] <xtknight> MasterG, sudo dpkg --purge --force-all gnome-system-tools && sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools
[05:36] <Combat> Pelo. you said go tto terminal to type my name : the user? or the root ?>
[05:36] <MasterG> ok thankyou
[05:36] <Pelo> Combat,   I said  type  "urname -r"
[05:36] <Racer5> Hey thanks for the help.  I got it working.
[05:37] <Combat> Pelo. urname -r
[05:37] <xtknight> Pelo, Combat: "sudo apt-get install linux-source" or selecting the "linux-source" pkg in synaptic will install the proper source automatically (it is a virtual package)
[05:37] <Pelo> Combat,  follow xtknight 's instructions
[05:38] <SnoopyTwo> Sigh.... Something else missing?    linker error of some sort?  ---> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[05:38] <Foon> xtknight: sorry I didn't mention, I'm using Ubuntu LAMP, and I'm ssh'd into it right now
[05:38] <Combat> Pelo. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16060/
[05:38] <frank227a> Hello
[05:38] <xtknight> Foon, uhh /etc/hostname maybe?  im not sure though as the /etc files can break your system if you do the wrong thing
[05:38] <Foon> I'd like to be able to ssh into my linux server using "tuxserver" for instance, rather than 192.168..etc
[05:38] <Combat> xtknight. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16060/
[05:38] <xtknight> Foon, itll give you something to google off of though
[05:38] <frank227a> I'm having issues with Evolution mail.  I can not seem to see messages in my inbox.
[05:38] <frank227a> Any suggestions?
[05:39] <frank227a> !evolution
[05:39] <Pelo> xtknight,  check out combats last pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <xtknight> frank227a, reinstall it?
[05:39] <squeaks> hey all, my gnome desktop icons disappeared, and mouse clicks on the desktop are unresponsive, but otherwise my system is stable, this occurred after greater than 2 weeks uptime, can anyone tell me what process i need to restart to my desktop back?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> fools,  edit the /etc/hosts to have the proper name/ip for that box.
[05:39] <MasterG> yay its fixed, thanks again, bye
[05:39] <frank227a> I'm going to look for the website.
[05:39] <Foon> xtknight: the weird thing is, the linux machine knows its tuxserver, but the windows one doesn't...?!?
[05:39] <xtknight> frank227a, nah, evolution is in the repositories.
[05:39] <Foon> yet the windows machine can connect via lan IP
[05:39] <xtknight> frank227a, sudo dpkg --purge --force-all evolution && sudo apt-get install evolution
[05:39] <Combat> wait
[05:39] <Combat> xtknight.
[05:39] <Combat> and pelo
[05:39] <xtknight> frank227a, that will reinstall it.  it will get rid of your account info probably though
[05:39] <Foon> I was able to get it working earlier tonight...I have no idea how I did it though
[05:39] <Pelo> Combat,  yes ?
[05:40] <xtknight> Pelo, Combat hold on checking out the pastebin
[05:40] <Pelo> Combat,  what is it you are trying to install anyway ?
[05:40] <wastrel> squeaks:  killall nautilus
[05:40] <Combat> Pelo.  About l"inux-source"
[05:40] <xtknight> Combat, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[05:40] <Combat> "linux-source" pkg in synaptic
[05:40] <Combat> 5.10
[05:40] <Pelo> Combat,  no I mean the other tying
[05:40] <Combat> but i typed
[05:40] <Combat> i updated
[05:40] <Combat> but haven;'t restarted yet
[05:40] <Foon> xtknight: any idea?
[05:41] <xtknight> Combat, not very familiar with 5.10 but try "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12"
[05:41] <xtknight> Foon, not really.  as i said google /etc/hostname
[05:41] <Pelo> Combat,  you donT, needto restart
[05:41] <Foon> ..ok
[05:41] <Combat> umm
[05:41] <squeaks> wastrel, now i should get another month uptime, thanks!
[05:41] <xtknight> anyone run ut2004?  how is its stability?  SIGSEGV'd couple times here
[05:41] <RickJones> ok, no one knows. kthx
[05:41] <xtknight> havent patched tho
[05:41] <frank227a> xtknight: Seems a little extreem.
[05:41] <Combat> xtknight linux-patch ubuntu 2.612 and linux-source 2.61.12 not install yet
[05:42] <xtknight> frank227a, not if you want to fix the problem
[05:42] <Combat> still i have to do what u said
[05:42] <Combat> "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12"
[05:42] <Pelo> Combat,  I have to go, sorry,  I hope someone else can finish you off ,  later folks
[05:42] <Foon> xtknight: the weird thing is, my /etc/hostname contains the correct host name ...but my windows machine just doesn't seem to see it
[05:42] <Foon> is it a router issue?
[05:42] <SnoopyTwo> sems amazingly difficult to build pine on a fresh Ubuntu installation
[05:42] <xtknight> frank227a, diminishing returns going into the bowels of ~/.evolution and trying to find the problem manually
[05:42] <Combat> Pelo. Thx
[05:42] <Foon> maybe I change the router to relay DNS rather than use my ISP's?
[05:42] <Foon> maybe I should*
[05:42] <Foon> ?
[05:42] <kitsuneofdoom> Ok, my laptop dropped, and the display broke. It has been crashing randomly as well. I've already tested the RAM and HDD for faults, and one long SMART test and about 7 passes of memtest 86 have come up clean. Anyone know how to test other components whether they work or not?
[05:42] <graywhite> anyone know how to create a login/password with htpasswd?
[05:43] <Parabola> hows tablet PC support in ubuntu?
[05:43] <Parabola> !tpc
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <SnoopyTwo> graywhite:   I think that htpasswd will just creat the hash
[05:43] <Parabola> !tabletPC
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tabletpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <fiery_cleric> kitsuneofdoom: have u done filesystem checks
[05:43] <Parabola> i ahte you
[05:43] <Parabola> !tablet
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <xtknight> Parabola, he hates you too.  please investigate with him in /msg
[05:43] <Parabola> what do you know you jerk
[05:43] <DShepherd> how do i check what program is running on a specific port?
[05:43] <Shootfast> lol
[05:43] <Combat> xtknight after this sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 done
[05:43] <Flannel> Parabola: How about going to that URL and browsing?
[05:44] <xtknight> Combat, sorry i have absolutely no idea what you're trying to do
[05:44] <wastrel> Parabola:  it seems to me the forums would be a better place for info of that sort
[05:44] <SnoopyTwo> DShepherd:  netstat -na
[05:44] <xtknight> all i was following was how to install linux source
[05:44] <GionnyBoss> DShepherd: sudo fuser -vn tcp port_number
[05:44] <kitsuneofdoom> fiery_cleric: hmmm...I ought, but I don't think that's the problem. What's the command for it? I'm using primarily ext2/3
[05:44] <ninjabob7> i'm having problems with my wireless card: 3 modules are loaded for it. when i remove all 3 and reload orinoco_pci, it works fine
[05:44] <GionnyBoss> DShepherd: or ... sudo fuser -vn udp port_number (if you want to check for udp ports)
[05:44] <graywhite> SnoopyTwo what do you mean?
[05:44] <Foon> oh...weird
[05:44] <Parabola> wastrel,  thanks mate
[05:44] <Shirakawasuna> alright, I've gone through the whole ubuntu help/audio guide and can't get this guy's sound to work - can someone help?
[05:44] <xtknight> Combat, i have to take off now as well.  losing sleep
[05:44] <Foon> my hostname points to 127.0.1.1 0.o
[05:45] <Parabola> i heard linux has crap support for TPC
[05:45] <Foon> wonder how that happened.
[05:45] <Parabola> which is no good for me im afraid
[05:45] <Shirakawasuna> modules load, alsamixer shows channel, no sound
[05:45] <Shootfast> xtnight you are awesome, thanks for the help
[05:45] <xtknight> glad i could
[05:45] <DShepherd> GionnyBoss, it says here:98 wat does that mean
[05:45] <fiery_cleric> kitsuneofdoom: e2fsck ... if u pass -c it will check for bad blocks aswell
[05:45] <SnoopyTwo> graywhite:    I do not have htpasswd on my system but I think that it's typically used to creats a password hash.... (crypt)
[05:45] <wastrel> ninjabob7:  maybe blacklist the 2 you don't want running
[05:45] <wastrel> !blacklist | ninjabob7
[05:45] <ubotu> ninjabob7: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[05:46] <fiery_cleric> kitsuneofdoom: look at man e2fsck before running
[05:46] <shukhrat> here in Tajikistan i would like open linux -center, what do you think people is CALONICAL support us (eriders) ?
[05:46] <GionnyBoss> DShepherd: with that command you should get USER, PID, ACCESS and COMMAND
[05:46] <kitsuneofdoom> fiery_cleric: thanks.
[05:47] <wastrel> shukhrat:  you should read about loco teams
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> DShepherd: you watch the COMMAND column and that is the executable that uses the port
[05:47] <wastrel> !loco | shukhrat
[05:47] <ubotu> shukhrat: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[05:47] <DShepherd> GionnyBoss, i might have type that comand in the wrong terminal
[05:47] <GigaClon> im trying to mount a davfs drive so that my user can edit it
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> DShepherd: don't know... always worked for me... did you use the -vn option?
[05:48] <GigaClon> I have it in /etc/fstab set to user,auto
[05:48] <MarkFeathers> Why isn't wpa-supplicant included in iwconfig?  Or better yet, why isn't iwconfig part of ifconfig?
[05:49] <fiery_cleric> who else is looking to ultra-free ubuntu ? :)
[05:49] <MarkFeathers> fiery_cleric: gnusense?
[05:49] <DShepherd> GionnyBoss, yes i did.. no useful output  yet
[05:50] <GigaClon> I get this when trying to mount a davfs volume
[05:50] <GigaClon> umask=0000,exec 0 0
[05:50] <GigaClon> err
[05:50] <GigaClon> /sbin/mount.davfs: Program is not setuid root.
[05:50] <lukaswayne9> Is there any application available that I can draw on my desktop?
[05:51] <Flannel> lukaswayne9: draw?  You mean like gimp/OOo Draw/etc?  or...
[05:51] <wastrel> lukaswayne9:  that sounds like fun
[05:51] <fiery_cleric> MarkFeathers: its meant to be released along side Gutsy Gibbon release ... see http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1447
[05:51] <crdlb> lukaswayne9, if you can run compiz or beryl, they have an annotate plugin that lets you do that
[05:51] <wastrel> Flannel:  i think he means draw on the root window(?)
[05:51] <lukaswayne9> Flannel: wastrel:  like DeskMarker for windows... just drawing over everything in the Xsession
[05:51] <Shootfast> anyone need any help?
[05:51] <kupesoft> j #debian
[05:51] <evila> mental
[05:52] <lukaswayne9> crdlb: that's EXACTLY what I wanted.  Thank you
[05:53] <wastrel> hrm. a reason to run compiz.  "fun"
[05:53] <diabolix> anyone know where i can get the murrine metacity theme? the only place that seems to host it is gnomethemes.org, and they are down..
[05:53] <MarkFeathers> diabolix: gnome-look.org
[05:53] <diabolix> they don't seem to have it.
[05:54] <wastrel> diabolix:  i can email it to you
[05:55] <lukaswayne9> I can't stop drawing on my desktop now.  thank you.. i will be entertained for a while
[05:55] <diabolix> wastrel, are you using xchat?
[05:55] <wapityyy> Hi, anyone can help me compile c++ program ?
[05:55] <Flannel> !compile | wapityyy
[05:55] <ubotu> wapityyy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:55] <stouset> What's the easiest way to repair non-seekable wmv files?
[05:55] <wastrel> diabolix:  yes i sure am
[05:55] <diabolix> wastrel, you could just send it to me.
[05:55] <GigaClon> /sbin/mount.davfs: Program is not setuid root. what does this mean when mounting a Davfs volume
[05:55] <pradeep> is there a sticky notes package which will let me sync notes over the internet (like what google desktop does for bookmarks)?
[05:55] <lukaswayne9> wastrel: xchat ftw
[05:55] <wastrel> diabolix:  but then i'd have to identify with nickserv...
[05:55] <wastrel> sigh ok...
[05:56] <diabolix> oh.. nm.
[05:56] <stouset> GigaClon: Probably need to run it under sudo.
[05:56] <wapityyy> Flannel: no its just a hello program i wrote myself that cant seem to be compiled...
[05:56] <stouset> Anyone familiar with repairing broken movie files?
[05:56] <lukaswayne9> pradeep: tomboy perhaps?  i'm not sure
[05:56] <GigaClon> but i want the drive to be r/w by my user
[05:56] <GigaClon> not root
[05:56] <wastrel> also, dcc never works for me
[05:56] <fiery_cleric> wapityyy: g++ hello.cc -o mybinary
[05:56] <stouset> GigaClon: Not familiar with davfs, but you might be able to enable the "users" option in the fstab.
[05:56] <pradeep> lukaswayne9, tomboy is very nice but it doesn't have this sync feature
[05:57] <diabolix> hmm.. do i have to not be behind a firewall?
[05:57] <GigaClon> the davfs volume is in /etc/fstab with options user,noauto
[05:57] <lukaswayne9> pradeep: oh, i wasn't sure if it did or not :-\
[05:58] <Gruelius> Hello, Anyone wish to help me install propietary Matrox drivers :)
[05:58] <Shootfast> !busybox
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <stouset> GigaClon: Not sure, then.
[05:58] <fiery_cleric> !info busybox
[05:58] <ubotu> busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 283 kB, installed size 516 kB
[05:58] <fiery_cleric> they changed it
[05:58] <Shirakawasuna> oh noes, the guy gave up
[05:59] <Shootfast> i see...
[05:59] <stouset> GigaClon: The solution is probably to set the setuid bit on the binary, but that's a security issue.
[06:00] <Gruelius> I have tried to install the matrox drivers from their website however i get this error, "The X server drivers included in this installation package  do not support the current version of your X server."
[06:00] <stouset> Gruelius: Matrox's drivers are likely old, then.
[06:00] <Shootfast> the matrox drivers are very old and only work on xfree86
[06:00] <Gruelius> Any places i should search or just google? Its a G450 LP Pci
[06:00] <stouset> Gruelius: Do the free drivers provided with Xorg not work?
[06:00] <Shootfast> the most up to date are already included
[06:01] <Gruelius> I tried them before but got "Out of range" on my monitors
[06:01] <taime1> are there any recommended webcams for ubuntu?
[06:01] <Shootfast> did you set the resoltuion correctly
[06:01] <stouset> Gruelius: There's not really anything to Google. If Matrox doesn't support their drivers or keep them up to date, there's not much the free software community can do about it.
[06:01] <stouset> Gruelius: I'd spend my time looking on how to get the free drivers to work.
[06:01] <Gruelius> Ill have another go at configuring them maybe. I have a nvidia AGP card as the main display, how should i add extra cards.
[06:01] <Gruelius> I configured Xorg using the automatic configure thing
[06:01] <Dr_willis> You dont hear much about Matrox any more. sadly
[06:01] <Gruelius> I have a 3 monitor setup and it was the cheapest pci card with dual dvi :D
[06:02] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: i think u need a device section for every card for starters
[06:02] <Gruelius> every head or every card?
[06:02] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: yeah
[06:03] <Gruelius> which one :P
[06:03] <Shootfast> head
[06:03] <Shootfast> i think,,,
[06:03] <Gruelius> Ok. How do i define which head in the device section>?
[06:03] <sniper298> hello gents i was wandering how to get the rotating desktop with beryl or compiz i dont see were the settings
[06:04] <ninjabob7> that worked, but now i would like to hotsync my palm tungsten t
[06:04] <GigaClon> stouset, i tried setting uid=1000 but i got this error Could not open pid-file.
[06:04] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: not sure what driver
[06:04] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to stop thinking newsletters from SSDP are scams? -_-
[06:04] <arrummzen> What Ubuntu package includes system header files (like <limits.h>)?
[06:04] <ninjabob7> nothing happens when i press the cradle's hotsync button, it doesn't even show up in lsusb
[06:04] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i thought it'd remember my preference for that particular sender when i told it the first one's not a scam, but apparently not
[06:05] <Gruelius> is mga the free driver for matrox cards? And what else apart from adding the device sections must i do?
[06:05] <bruenig> !find limits.h
[06:05] <ubotu> File limits.h found in blitz++, cmix, dietlibc-dev, ecos, elks-libc (and 69 others)
[06:06] <arrummzen> bruenig, 69 others?
[06:06] <bruenig> probably libc-dev
[06:06] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: mga driver maybe
[06:06] <CLifford-> i need help
[06:06] <TonyTone17> I can't get Kubuntu to boot, can anyone help me?
[06:07] <bruenig> arrummzen, yeah go for libc6-dev
[06:07] <Gruelius> how do i define the head if each head needs a diff device?
[06:07] <arrummzen> thanks...
[06:08] <CLifford-> I need help. I'm on a dual os before linux and windows. but when i reformat my windows and start a fresh installation i can't boot now to linux. can someone help me how to boot my linux back?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[06:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <Gruelius> you need to reinstall grub
[06:08] <sniper298> wow i think i found a great fun distro to replace windblows
[06:08] <Dr_willis> CLifford-,  read that !fixgrub url.
[06:09] <mstrzele> hi all, is there any way for binding two ip addresses to one host in /etc/hosts? e.g. if first address is disconnected the second is binded to hostname
[06:09] <sniper298> if only i could get IL2 stormovick to play with teamspeak i would be all det
[06:09] <sniper298> st
[06:09] <sniper298> set
[06:09] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: u need section Device for each Head ... so u have a different identifier with the same driver if its one card with two heads ... u also may need the BusID inside device section
[06:10] <Gruelius> fiery_cleric: ill open a pm thing with you? ive setup most the file just need a few things
[06:10] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: ok
[06:11] <bill_k> bruenig: still extracting :)
[06:11] <bill_k> how long have you been on linux?
[06:11] <bruenig> bill_k, why would you rar something like that up
[06:11] <Shootfast> me?
[06:11] <bill_k> no bruenig
[06:11] <bill_k> bruenig: because I was VERY stupid
[06:11] <bill_k> obviously
[06:12] <bill_k> can anyone else here think of a reason?
[06:12] <bruenig> well pr0n theory still is out there
[06:12] <wastrel> rar
[06:12] <Gruelius> did i just get kicked or something?
[06:13] <Flannel> Gruelius: for flooding
[06:13] <GluE> is FF still commin on the 19th, or delayed to a later date?
[06:13] <sniper298> does anybody know how to get the rotating desktop with beryl something like vista
[06:13] <Gruelius> Im uploading it to a website, that will be easier maybe
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> GluE: Still the plan - details in #ubuntu+1
[06:14] <GluE> ty
[06:14] <Gruelius> http://users.tpg.com.au/adsljj8m/xorg.conf
[06:14] <MrWGW> good evening
[06:14] <MrWGW> I was wondering, does Feisty use the 2.6.20 kernel?
[06:14] <MrWGW> (I hope)
[06:15] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: right i ll take a look ... but i am no expert
[06:15] <Gruelius> kk cheers :)
[06:15] <crdlb> MrWGW, yes
[06:15] <stouset> MrWGW: Yes.
[06:15] <Shootfast> quick question - how do I add arguments to the kernel?
[06:15] <MrWGW> oh perfect
[06:15] <Flannel> Shootfast: permanantly or temporarily?
[06:15] <stouset> Shootfast: You can do it during the grub boot
[06:15] <Shootfast> temp for nw
[06:15] <MrWGW> as soon as its released I'll install it on my Core Duo Mac so I can finally take advantage of its hardware virtualization capabilities
[06:15] <Flannel> Shootfast: at grub menu, hit e to edit
[06:15] <shwag_> how do I change a  Y-m-d  into a  m/d/Y   ?
[06:16] <stouset> Shootfast: When you choose the kernel to boot, hit 'e', it will let you edit any lines by selecting them and hitting 'e' again.
[06:16] <jtt> does anyone know how i can force my 1G ethernet card to 1000FDX
[06:16] <Shootfast> yeah, but where abouts in the string?
[06:16] <wastrel> shwag_:  where?
[06:16] <stouset> Shootfast: Esc to back out, Enter to commit, 'b' to boot.
[06:16] <stouset> Shootfast: The end. Just tack them on. Look at what's already there.
[06:16] <Shootfast> ok cool, thanks
[06:16] <jtt> mii-tool only appears to handle up to 100FDX
[06:16] <Toki> how do i specify the port to use in xchat for a network i added?
[06:17] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: right so u need another device section with and identifier like "G450_head_2" and u need to reference it in the Screen3 section
[06:17] <Gruelius> Okies, do i need to add any sections or change the Bus ID?
[06:17] <Gruelius> and what do i put in the layout section
[06:18] <sniper298> does dvd shrink work well with wine or should i use something else
[06:18] <Shootfast> I think it might just be my motherboard thats incompattible than
[06:20] <Shootfast> anyone else had problems booting on a Core 2 duo
[06:20] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: the busid for the both mga sections should be the same.... use lspci to find it, also look at man mga , also u Xorg may be able to configure some stuff by running Xorg -configure (backup your current xorg.conf first)
[06:21] <Hobbsee> Shootfast: which release?
[06:21] <Shootfast> all of them, ive tried dapper, edgy and feisty
[06:22] <james296> what if in general, I get this error message when loading something from the terminal...
[06:22] <Gruelius> I know the busid from previous mucking around :P Anyway ive googled Xorg and it should be working perfectly. Whats the shortcut to restart X again? and whats the command to kill an app while in console
[06:22] <Shootfast> I've been using ubuntu for a while now on my other pcs
[06:22] <james296> Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: XML declaration not well-formed
[06:22] <james296> could that be anything?
[06:23] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: after that u need to have 3 monitor sections which are referenced in each of the 3 screen sections... then u configure the layout of the screens in the serverlayout section ....  its all in man xorg.conf ... ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x ... to kill an application u use kill
[06:23] <Shootfast> but this time i get stuck on
[06:23] <Shootfast> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[06:23] <Shootfast> #
[06:26] <Gruelius> coolio
[06:26] <Gruelius> ill upload the new one just to check before i restart
[06:27] <Gruelius> http://users.tpg.com.au/adsljj8m/xorg.conf
[06:29] <feliciano> hi, do you know how make firefox add feeds to liferea??
[06:29] <fiery_cleric> Gruelius: looks good ...
[06:29] <bill_k> feliciano: not familiar with liferea
[06:30] <bill_k> what is it?
[06:30] <feliciano> bill_k, liferea is a rss reader
[06:30] <Gruelius> So i dont have to set a 2nd bus ID for the matrox card?
[06:30] <bill_k> feliciano: nevermind, got taht figured out
[06:30] <bill_k> ok
[06:30] <fiery_cleric> !info liferea
[06:30] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[06:30] <Gruelius> ah bugger it ive allways got my backup anyways
[06:30] <Gruelius> wish me luck!
[06:31] <bill_k> probably just put the feed address in it?
[06:31] <stouset> feliciano: I just use Epiphany. They integrate nicely.
[06:31] <green> i have a little issue im running edgy and the bar in the download box doesnt move how can i fix this?
[06:32] <bill_k> downloading edgy?
[06:32] <feliciano> stouset... whats epiphany??
[06:32] <bill_k> or upgrading?
[06:32] <fiery_cleric> !info epiphany
[06:32] <ubotu> epiphany: clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-4 (edgy), package size 63 kB, installed size 236 kB
[06:32] <fiery_cleric> oops
[06:32] <stouset> !info epiphany-browser
[06:32] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2475 kB, installed size 12132 kB
[06:32] <green>  yes im downloading edgy 64 bit
[06:33] <bill_k> downloading over http?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> Reminders of the day:  Please considering !register -ing your nick, if the channel scrolls too fast /ignore joins and parts, use !tab to hilight people you talk to, and follow general !etiquette.  Just keepin' the channel useful as we prepare for Feisty, have a great evening!  :)
[06:33] <bill_k> or though update manager?
[06:33] <green> yep
[06:33] <nonuda_> guys, i have dual boot kubuntu and xp, both works fine before, but sudenlly now xp won't boot!, when i tried to boot xp, grub show me only "starting up" and a blinking cursor, it seems grub can't find xp kernel or anything to need xp boot..
[06:33] <bill_k> green: sorry, which one?
[06:33] <mAGnET> When I try the command "start x" it returns "start: unknown job: x". I'm under the impression from doing some research that my video drivers need to be installed. Is this correct?
[06:33] <green> im running edgy now its just the download bar in the standard downloads window wont move
[06:34] <fiery_cleric> mAGnET: its startx .... but what are u trying to do?
[06:35] <green> inspite of the download completeing it didnt move the whole way
[06:35] <bill_k> nonuda_: you probably need to re-install grub
[06:36] <Shootfast> noone has another idea for the bootup crashing to busybox?
[06:36] <mAGnET> Get to the gui. Startx comes back as command not found
[06:36] <nonuda_> bill_k: ok..how do i do that?
[06:36] <kylecasey> anyone know of a good way to convert music files to MP3 on linux?
[06:36] <bill_k> green:  use the updater if you;'re just updating a current 64 bit version, otherwise, it sounds like the download connection timed out. try the .torrent
[06:36] <bill_k> nonuda_: one sec
[06:36] <stouset> mAGnET: The GUI should start automatically on boot.
[06:36] <wastrel> mAGnET:  startx  , not Startx
[06:37] <bill_k> nonuda $sudo grub-install
[06:38] <shukhrat> !LAMP
[06:38] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:38] <nonuda_> bill_k: ok done
[06:38] <fiery_cleric> buzzword
[06:38] <bill_k> nonuda_: reboot, see if xp is there
[06:39] <shukhrat> how completly remove LAMP
[06:39] <green> bill_k not with just this download but with all downloads the bar doesnt move
[06:39] <fiery_cleric> haha
[06:39] <fiery_cleric> shukhrat: without the L u got no OS
[06:39] <bill_k> green: what browser are you using?  That's weird, it sticks at a current spot or doesn't download at all?
[06:40] <bill_k> may be permissions, where are you saving to? Desktop?
[06:40] <Flannel> shukhrat: remove each piece, apache, mysql, php, etc.  But you'll need to remove the real packages, not just the metapackages
[06:40] <shukhrat> firey_cleric
[06:40] <nonuda_> bill_k: sudo grub install makes me in grub session (in konsole, i'm in grub> prompt) do i just type reboot?
[06:40] <green> it sticks at the beginning but does complete the download
[06:40] <bill_k> nonuda_: let me check :)
[06:40] <mAGnET> Using lilo or grub it never boots to the gui all I have is a command prompt.
[06:40] <stouset> nonuda_: Type what he told you. Not "grub install". "grub-install".
[06:41] <shukhrat> Flannel: how to remove metapackages ?
[06:41] <bill_k> nonuda_: sorry, forgot a big part of that
[06:41] <Flannel> shukhrat: whatever package manager you feel like
[06:41] <nonuda_> ohh i see..wait
[06:41] <bill_k> hit control + c or type exit and enter
[06:41] <nonuda_> exit
[06:41] <bill_k> enter
[06:41] <therealnanotube> i am looking for a nice diff merge software (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411329). anyone have a recommendation?
[06:41] <shukhrat> Flannel: i mean real pakage ?
[06:41] <bill_k> ok, i'm a noob too, so i can help you learn to help yourself a bit, which is actually more useful :)
[06:42] <Flannel> shukhrat: same way.  Through whatever package manager you want.  For instance, a good apache package to remove (that'll remove most of the others) is apache2-common
[06:42] <bill_k> nonuda_: type man grub-install
[06:42] <fiery_cleric> !info meld
[06:42] <ubotu> meld: graphical tool to diff and merge files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 612 kB, installed size 2056 kB
[06:42] <Flannel> nonuda_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows has instructions
[06:43] <bill_k> nonuda_: see that nice manual page?  most commands have one. Stuff in it may seem cryptic at first, but it will start to make sense
[06:43] <kylecasey> hey flannel do you know how i would figure out what my optical drives are set as ?(dev/dvd and what the second one would be or how to find out
[06:43] <therealnanotube> fiery_cleric: hmm, i will take a look at that, thanks. :)
[06:43] <Flannel> kylecasey: are they
[06:43] <Flannel> kylecasey: are they IDE drives?
[06:43] <kylecasey> yeah flannel
[06:43] <bill_k> so we need to use sudo to give the command administrative privileges, that comes first
[06:43] <bill_k> nonuda_: still there?
[06:43] <stouset> nonuda_: Don't follow those instructions Flannel linked you to.
[06:43] <nonuda_> bill_k: yup
[06:43] <bill_k> nonuda_: so we need to specify a device
[06:43] <Flannel> stouset: why not?
[06:44] <Gruelius> No such luck, I got an error message from Xorg that "Section" was invalaid
[06:44] <nonuda_> bill_k: ok
[06:44] <bill_k> what's your linux hard drive called?
[06:44] <bill_k> hda?
[06:44] <Flannel> kylecasey: primary master is hda, primary slave is hdb, secondary master is hdc, secondary slave is hdd
[06:44] <stouset> Flannel: Because not everyone's root partition is hda2.
[06:44] <bullgard4> What is meant with a 'build' as in the sentence "These packages include Pine, Pico, and other smaller programs that are also part of a standard pine build." (See http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/linux.html)
[06:44] <nonuda_> yup hda
[06:44] <stouset> Flannel: And more than likely his isn't, since he is dual booting.
[06:44] <bill_k> ok, partition 1?
[06:44] <Flannel> stouset: eh?  Those instructions say "figure out which partition you want to install to", and give you instructions on doing so
[06:45] <bill_k> oh, are you guys helpign with the grub?
[06:45] <stouset> Flannel: 5. Type "root (hd0,3)".
[06:45] <stouset> Flannel: 6. Type "setup (hd0,3)". This is key
[06:45] <Flannel> stouset: read step four
[06:45] <kylecasey> ok flannel im trying to burn some dvds with brasero i think and it has dev/dvd?
[06:45] <stouset> Flannel: Ok. Didn't see that step.
[06:46] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where i can find out the market share of desktop linux/windows/osx?
[06:46] <xyz-abc> What wireless modes (wpa, wep?) does Ubuntu 6.10 support?
[06:46] <stouset> Flannel: Was looking for a line that said that, but missed it.
[06:46] <nonuda_> right now i'm so confuse
[06:46] <dj-fu> Tarkus: google should provide you with some clearly well unresearched and obviously made up numbers
[06:46] <kylecasey> maybe thestreet.com tarkus
[06:46] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: generally its the process of creating runnable software (binary) from the source files of the SW
[06:46] <Shootfast> xyz-abc of course
[06:46] <dj-fu> feel free to add them into the market share report you're doing
[06:46] <zixp> Hi, my external monitor seems to have become my primary display.  When I boot without it my laptop monitor is half orange half black.  How do I set my laptop monitor to be the default again?
[06:46] <xyz-abc> shootfast: huh?
[06:46] <bill_k> nonuda_: sudo grub install /dev/hda
[06:46] <kylecasey> investment site so you might get unbiased info there tarkus
[06:47] <bill_k> nonuda_: sorry
[06:47] <Tarkus> kylecasey, alright, ill have a look thanks
[06:47] <Shootfast> xyz-abc - Ubuntu 6.10 supports both WEP and WPA
[06:47] <kylecasey> no prob
[06:47] <bill_k> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[06:47] <bill_k> nonuda_: need the dash
[06:47] <bullgard4> fiery_cleric: Please confirm: A build is a process?
[06:47] <xyz-abc> shootfast: thanks for the info
[06:47] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: an instance of a process ... or the process itself
[06:47] <Shootfast> xyz-abc - although in 6.10 i think you have to get a restricted package for WPA
[06:47] <kylecasey> hey flannel do you know what im talking about with the /dev/dvd thing or how i can change it?
[06:48] <Shootfast> xyz-abc - in feisty fawn theyre supported out of the box
[06:48] <nonuda_> ok..done..no errors reprted
[06:48] <nonuda_> *reported
[06:48] <bill_k> ok
[06:48] <nonuda_> should i reboot?
[06:48] <bill_k> sure, do you have a bootable ubuntu iso handy though? in case i broke it :)
[06:49] <therealnanotube> fiery_cleric: wow, meld is great! thanks. :)
[06:49] <fiery_cleric> therealnanotube: its nice yeah...
[06:49] <nonuda_> yup..
[06:49] <bill_k> cool
[06:49] <bill_k> go for it
[06:49] <nonuda_> ok rebooting now..brb
[06:49] <mAGnET> How do I get to the gnome interface?
[06:50] <Shootfast> download gnome-desktop
[06:50] <mAGnET> It's installed
[06:50] <wastrel> mAGnET:  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <darwin> I remember back when I used Windows there was an application that would essentially let you download a whole website for archiving or for offline browsing. Are there any applications available for Ubuntu that provide similar functionality?
[06:50] <bill_k> nonuda_: good luck :)
[06:50] <wastrel> mAGnET:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:50] <bullgard4> fiery_cleric: On that website the University writes: "http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/linux.html" I find it difficult to imagine there that a build is a process.
[06:51] <wastrel> bullgard4:  building software means to compile it from source code.
[06:51] <bullgard4> fiery_cleric: On that website the University writes: "These packages include Pine, Pico, and other smaller programs that are also part of a standard pine build. UW-Imapd, which is also part of a standard Pine build, is a program of which it is recommended to have a better understanding, and is thus not included in these Pine packages." I find it difficult to imagine there that a build is a process.
[06:51] <Flannel> bullgard4: yes, building is a process.  But, why do you want pine/pico?  mutt and nano are their Free equivalents, and are in the repos
[06:51] <wastrel> <3 mutt
[06:52] <Gruelius> I got the 3 monitors working! More or less :P On the left and right monitor i see blank Ubuntu desktops like the one on my main monitor, even with apps open so its not being cloned. In the display settings app, it says there are only two screens. What things should i add to the layout section?
[06:52] <darwin> anyone?
[06:52] <Flannel> darwin: there are.  Uh, wget would be one ;)  I'm sure there are more GUI-friendly ones as well.  I'd just search the repositories, you're bound to come up with some
[06:52] <bullgard4> Flannel: I am not goning to use pine. I find it diffcult to understand a 'build'. I am content with nano.
[06:53] <Kream> hi all
[06:53] <therealnanotube> darwin: there's d4x...
[06:53] <Flannel> !compile | bullgard4, that'll explain building
[06:53] <ubotu> bullgard4, that'll explain building: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:53] <Kream> I'm having huge difficulty getting to archive.ubuntu.com
[06:53] <Kream> it's completely unresponsive for me.
[06:53] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: replace build with "processes of compiling source to an application"
[06:54] <Lam_> what's a good standard font to use for the system that is compatible with numerous foreign characters for chinese/japanese support?
[06:54] <Kream> a) can someone confirm this and b) where can I find a working set of up-to-date feisty mirrors?
[06:54] <Kream> can anyone here reach archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:54] <wastrel> nobody uses feisty here, try #ubuntu+1
[06:55] <therealnanotube> Kream: yea, i can get to archive.ubuntu.com without any problems
[06:55] <bullgard4> fiery_cleric, Flannel, wastrel: Thank you very much for your help. I will now digest in a quiet minute what you have said.
[06:55] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: or result of the process ....
[06:55] <Kream> this is very very strange.
[06:55] <Kream> therealnanotube:  can you confirm that you can get to in.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:55] <Andy2> How do I run netstat in my desktop?
[06:55] <therealnanotube> Kream: can you access any other websites?
[06:55] <therealnanotube> Kream: hold on, let me try. i tried just plain "archive.ubuntu.com"
[06:56] <Kream> therealnanotube:  absolutely. nl.archive.ubuntu.com works
[06:56] <Cosmo_>  ok this is going to drive me nuts, my printer (brother intellifax 1840C) is not listed when I try to install a printer, and the only drivers I have been able to find are the lpr and cups drivers on the brother website but nothing I seem to do installs them
[06:56] <Flannel> Kream: it's entirely possible that the in mirror is down
[06:56] <therealnanotube> Kream: yea, in.archive worked for me just fine, too
[06:56] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_build
[06:56] <Kream> Flannel:  the in mirror is mirrored to canonical's server
[06:56] <Andy2> How do I run netstat in my desktop?
[06:56] <Kream> Flannel:  meaning, it's a redirect
[06:56] <Andy2> I am trying to find out the ips that were ddosing me
[06:56] <nonuda> bill_k: xp still wont start..it seems it didn't the grub problems, i was comparing the menu.lst of grub before i do grub-install /dev/hda, they are same!
[06:57] <therealnanotube> Cosmo_: try using a driver from another brother printer that looks close in version number. that may work. :)
[06:57] <Flannel> nonuda: pastebin your menu.lst
[06:57] <Madpilot> Cosmo_, did you check linuxprinting.org for info on your printer?
[06:57] <bill_k> haha
[06:57] <nonuda> Flannel: ok..wait
[06:57] <Flannel> nonuda: your Ubuntu boots fine, but not windows?
[06:57] <fiery_cleric> Andy2: i think under system->admin->network tools
[06:57] <nonuda> Flannel: yup..
[06:57] <Andy2> alright thx
[06:57] <Flannel> nonuda: then yeah, its a config problem, reinstalling grub wouldnt have fixed it
[06:58] <Cosmo_> Madpilot: yes I did it's not listed on there
[06:58] <bill_k> grub doesnt show xp
[06:58] <matkix0s> How can I tell what v of ubuntu I'm running... Its been some time since I installed and I want to test Beryl and need to know what I'm running.
[06:58] <bill_k> nonuda: oops :-o
[06:58] <titun> I installed a package, the fille locations are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16067/, out of them which is the build directory?
[06:58] <bill_k> sorry
[06:58] <therealnanotube> matkix0s: "cat /etc/issue"
[06:58] <colbert> what is cmd to remove a package again, something with purge
[06:58] <Flannel> matkix0s: lsb_release -a
[06:58] <fiery_cleric> Andy2: buts whats wrong with the plain netstat command
[06:58] <Madpilot> Cosmo_, not a good sign... does System->Admin->Printing->Add New Printer help?
[06:58] <preaction> titun: if you instaled a package, there is no "building", it's pre-built
[06:59] <wastrel> Cosmo_:  you have a ppd from the brother web site?
[06:59] <titun> preaction, oh...some other package needs to know where i build the first package
[06:59] <Andy2> eh nothing
[06:59] <Andy2> thanks guys
[06:59] <Cosmo_> Madpilot: that doesn't list it there, or even have a single brother intellifax printer on the list
[06:59] <pavs> type this: watch --interval 0.5 netstat net
[06:59] <pavs> to get real time connections
[06:59] <titun> preaction, the command is : python setup.py build_ext \
[06:59] <titun>     --gammu-build=path_to_gammu_build_directory
[07:00] <Kream> !proposed
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <Cosmo_> wastrel: ppd?
[07:00] <darwin> Flannel: Thank you I looked up wget and found a GNOME gui called gwget
[07:00] <Kream> what are the $dist-proposed repos for ?
[07:00] <preaction> titun: from your paste, you didn't install a package, you built a program. the directory the other program wants is probably "/usr/local"
[07:00] <Madpilot> Kream, testing repos of sorts. I'm not sure they're actually fully running yet.
[07:00] <Kream> thanks, Madpilot
[07:01] <wastrel> Cosmo_:  you said the brother site had a cups driver?  this may be a ppd file, which you can use for cups
[07:01] <titun> preaction, yes... it is a python program....sorry a noob is confused between install & build
[07:01] <nonuda> Flannel: here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16069/
[07:02] <preaction> titun: they're two steps in the overall process of "getting program Foo to work"
[07:02] <Flannel> nonuda: er... that is your entire menu.lst?
[07:02] <titun> preaction, /usr/local/bin has a binary
[07:02] <Cosmo_> the cups driver they have are a .deb and a .rpm file
[07:02] <nonuda> Flannel: nop..
[07:02] <titun> preaction, may be that is the path the other program needs
[07:03] <therealnanotube> Cosmo_: you have tried installing the .deb?
[07:03] <Flannel> nonuda: alright.  And you say that grub doesn't list XP?  or just that it doesn't work?
[07:03] <preaction> titun: most likely it's just "/usr/local"
[07:03] <wastrel> Cosmo_:  url?
[07:03] <AppleNippleBOB> Can anyone recommend a site to upload a file to, I don't need it to be permenant, but something that can hold 10mb.
[07:04] <therealnanotube> AppleNippleBOB: try gmail? :)
[07:04] <titun> preaction, /usr/local/bin has the executable i build [gammu] 
[07:04] <nonuda> Flannel: no grub list the xp, but when i choose it, grub show me "starting Up" with blinking cursor..and it just stauck in there
[07:04] <titun> preaction, btw wht / means in this command : python setup.py build_ext \
[07:04] <titun>     --gammu-build=path_to_gammu_build_directory
[07:04] <AppleNippleBOB> therealnanotube, nope. Says that it is too big
[07:04] <Cosmo_> wastrel: there is a cupswrapperfax1840c_1.0.0-1_386 and a brmfcfaxcups-1.0.0-1.i386
[07:04] <therealnanotube> titun: so... can you run your binary from /usr/local/bin, then?
[07:04] <Flannel> nonuda: Alright.  Uh, try changing where it says "root (hd0,0)" change root to rootnoverify
[07:05] <preaction> titun: and /usr/local is the directory you installed to, the /bin directory contains binaries the /lib directory contains libraries (which your other program might need to link against), the /share directory might contain even more things.
[07:05] <therealnanotube> AppleNippleBOB: ah i see... have you tried zipping it? or even better, bz2-ing it?
[07:05] <titun> preaction, therealnanotube , let me see
[07:05] <preaction> titun: the \ (it isn't a /) in that command is a continuation marker, it allows you to continue the command on the next line
[07:05] <metamoss> Hi all, can I ask a gcc-related question here, or would it be better suited someplace else?
[07:06] <AppleNippleBOB> therealnanotube, nope. I think that I found a way, wikiupload, but I don't know how legit that is.
[07:06] <Cosmo_> http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html and http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/pcfax_drivers_cups.html
[07:06] <nonuda> Flannel: did u meant like this "root rootnoverify" at the line 32?
[07:06] <preaction> metamoss: depends, is it ubuntu specific?
[07:06] <titun> preaction, oh  :-)
[07:06] <therealnanotube> AppleNippleBOB: heh
[07:06] <fiery_cleric> metamoss: fire away
[07:06] <Flannel> nonuda: no.  "rootnoverify (hd0,0)" line32, yes
[07:07] <metamoss> preaction: not really, except that I'm using the one provided by ubuntu. alternatively, could someone direct me to a more appropriate channel?
[07:07] <fiery_cleric> metamoss: gcc is part ubuntu
[07:07] <nonuda> Flannel: ah i see..ok
[07:07] <nonuda> Flannel: done..what then?
[07:08] <preaction> metamoss: #gcc maybe? #c++, perhaps?
[07:08] <Flannel> nonuda: reboot and try it
[07:08] <nonuda> Flannel: ok..brb again
[07:08] <metamoss> preaction: thanks
[07:09] <fiery_cleric> oh well
[07:09] <wastrel> Cosmo_:  yeah no ppd there.
[07:09] <wastrel> Cosmo_:  have you followed the instructions for installing the .deb ?
[07:09] <nu2ubu> testing connection
[07:09] <bill_k> Flannel: what is (hd0,0) specify?
[07:09] <bill_k> booting/ mbr stuff has always been fuzzy to me, I;d like to understand it
[07:10] <nu2ubu> new to this xchat thing
[07:10] <preaction> bill_k: hd0,0 means the first drive (master) on the first IDE cable
[07:10] <therealnanotube> nu2ubu: heh, hope you're a fast reader. :)
[07:11] <bill_k> preaction: with sata, how would I specify drives (same way?) Mine are sda and sdb
[07:11] <nu2ubu> read faster that I type
[07:11] <therealnanotube> nu2ubu: true for most people.
[07:12] <therealnanotube> nu2ubu: but do you read faster than 20 people type at the same time, that is the question. ;)
[07:13] <bill_k> therealnanotube: haha
[07:13] <Flannel> bill_k: hd0,0 is grubspeak for hda1
[07:13] <bill_k> and type faster than 10?
[07:13] <bill_k> ok
[07:13] <bill_k> how do i specify sd then?
[07:13] <therealnanotube> bill_k: :)
[07:13] <bill_k> sda1 (actually mine is sda2)
[07:13] <bill_k> xp stole 1
[07:13] <nu2ubu>  watching all the people coming and going is half the battle
[07:14] <Flannel> bill_k: hd vs sd will be ordered based on how the BIOS sees them.  If you're mixing hd# and sd#, you'll need to know how your BIOS sees them
[07:14] <bill_k> you can hide that I thinki
[07:14] <bill_k> think*
[07:14] <Flannel> er, I suppose I said what I meant twice.  heh.  but, if you have hda and sda, either one could be hd0
[07:14] <bill_k> Flannel: so whether linux calls a drive hd or sd is purely hardware/ bios settings?
[07:14] <P_Kable> Hi feisty still for the 19th ?
[07:14] <Flannel> bill_k: no.  hd is IDE sd is SCSI/SATA.
[07:15] <bill_k> ok
[07:15] <Flannel> bill_k: oh, sorry.  in grub, with numbers, hd# is dependant on BIOS, linux sees hda and sda (letters not numbers)
[07:15] <Shootfast> Ok, I partially found the solution to my problem whereby I get dumped to busybox. Apparantly lots of other XPC shuttle users are getting this, and its to do with the mkininrd during install
[07:15] <nu2ubu> what is main discussion of this chat?
[07:15] <Shootfast> someone recomended yaird instead, how would I go about uing this
[07:15] <bill_k> nu2ubu: ubuntu help
[07:15] <RyanRyan52> how do u shutdown from bash?
[07:16] <Flannel> RyanRyan52: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:16] <nonuda_> Flannel: still not work..btw ubuntu detects my xp partition as hda1, but grub menu.lst root (hd0,0) should i change it?
[07:16] <redwyrm> RyanRyan52, sudo init 0
[07:16] <nu2ubu> thanks
[07:16] <Cosmo_> ok for the lpr driver I installed it and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[07:16] <RyanRyan52> thanks
[07:16] <wastrel> RyanRyan52:  sudo halt
[07:16] <ardchoille> RyanRyan52: sudo shutdown -h now  (-h = shutdown, -r = reboot)
[07:16] <RyanRyan52> how do u make a scheduled task?
[07:16] <bill_k> h = halt
[07:16] <therealnanotube> P_Kable: looks like yes
[07:16] <P_Kable> thx
[07:16] <bill_k> use -hr for restart
[07:16] <preaction> RyanRyan52: sudo crontab -e
[07:16] <Flannel> nonuda_: hda1 is hd0,0.  If you highlight the XP entry, and hit 'e', do you get that command we were seeing with "root hd0,0" or "rootnoverify hd0,0"?
[07:16] <bill_k> isn't there a sudo restart?
[07:17] <ardchoille> RyanRyan52: man 5 crontab
[07:17] <P_Kable> any idea where I can find the sources.list for feisty
[07:17] <RyanRyan52> thanks
[07:17] <bill_k> nonuda_: easiest solution, get rid of windows :)
[07:17] <P_Kable> or is it ok to just change edgy to feisty in my sources.list
[07:17] <Flannel> RyanRyan52: you can replace "now" with a time
[07:17] <bill_k> $/etc/apt/sources.lst?
[07:17] <nonuda_> Flannel: ok i check it again...
[07:17] <bill_k> on kubuntu actually
[07:18] <bill_k> sources.list
[07:18] <Flannel> RyanRyan52: sudo shutdown -h 14:00 for instance
[07:18] <therealnanotube> !upgrade | P_Kable
[07:18] <ubotu> P_Kable: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:18] <nonuda_> bill_k: lol..yup but i still need it..hehe
[07:18] <P_Kable> thx a lot
[07:18] <Kanji_Man> Hello, I am a new ubuntu user (feisty 7.04) and would like to know how to create an ntfs partition. I have installed 3G and can read/write to existing ntfs partitions fine. However, when I try to create a new partition in GParted the ntfs option for filesystem is greyed out when creating a new partition.
[07:18] <nu2ubu> does any know how to get rid of a package takes keeps interupting my upgrading
[07:18] <GTPilot>  #wireless
[07:18] <Shootfast> Kanji_Man: yeah I noticed that too, its there on all the other versions. odd
[07:18] <bill_k> nonuda: for what?
[07:19] <chowmeined> ubuntu is awesome
[07:19] <bill_k> agreed
[07:19] <Lam_> what's a good standard font to use for the system that is compatible with numerous foreign characters for chinese/japanese support?
[07:19] <bill_k> well, on kubuntu actually
[07:19] <therealnanotube> nonuda: you may be better off installing the windows in vmware, than on a separate partition. (bonus: you would be able to run xp without rebooting from ubuntu)
[07:20] <bill_k> not if he uses it for games
[07:20] <bill_k> which is the only use for windows
[07:20] <bill_k> :)
[07:20] <chowmeined> when will more companies make games for linux?
[07:20] <chowmeined> i mean they dont even have to do much
[07:20] <bill_k> when they can make a profit doing it
[07:20] <chowmeined> just do some testing for wine
[07:21] <therealnanotube> nu2ubu: how does it "interrupt"?
[07:21] <chowmeined> if they do a little testing to get it to work with wine.. it would make people happier
[07:21] <bill_k> supportting them would be a nightmare among the flood of linux noobs (including myself)
[07:21] <gregorovius> hi... can anyone tell me which /dev/ file corresponds to linein?
[07:21] <GTPilot> anyone use a cisco aironet 350?
[07:21] <bill_k> and most video card companies aren't too friendly to the linux crowd, or it's just legal stuff
[07:21] <therealnanotube> Lam_: wouldn't just any regular font do just fine?
[07:21] <bill_k> GTPilot: i've used AN aironet (1200 i believe)
[07:21] <bill_k> what's up?
[07:22] <chowmeined> gregorovius: like for a microphone?
[07:22] <GTPilot> bill_k: do you recall if the airo_cs was the correct driver?
[07:22] <GTPilot> bill_k: feisty loads an e100 driver by default and i don't know how to change that.
[07:22] <Cosmo_> wastrel:  ok for the lpr driver I installed it and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[07:22] <nu2ubu> anybody see my post regarding getting rid of a package that keeps trying to install very time  I upgrade ?
[07:22] <Lam_> therealnanotube: i'm not sure. from what i heard, some fonts work better than others
[07:22] <gregorovius> chowmeined, that'd work too, I just don't know how to address parts of the soundcard
[07:23] <gregorovius> chowmeined, I know it's got something to do with /dev/dsp
[07:23] <therealnanotube> nu2ubu: did you see my reply? i asked what exactly you mean by "interrupt"?
[07:23] <chowmeined> gregorovius: /dev/dsp is sound out
[07:23] <chowmeined> gregorovius: you can send stuff to it directly and it will make noise
[07:23] <gregorovius> chowmeined, and which files are line-in devices?
[07:23] <nonuda_> Flannel: i saw rootnoverify
[07:23] <therealnanotube> Lam_: hm, well, try some fonts, and see which ones work. :) i don't really have any idea as to what fonts are "better"...
[07:23] <chowmeined> gregorovius: yes > /dev/dsp
[07:23] <chowmeined> gregorovius: im not sure perhaps it is in /dev/snd
[07:24] <Lam_> therealnanotube: not better. just more suitable for foreign characters i guess. :P
[07:24] <bill_k> GTPilot: it's an adapter?  the aironet 1200 was an ap
[07:24] <bill_k> sorry
[07:24] <GTPilot> bill_k, pcmcia yeah .. oh
[07:24] <nu2ubu> sorry it seem that the updating process looks at  an old  update that didn,t complete
[07:24] <Enselic__> When I try to sudo apt-get install mencoder it says "404 file not found". Anyone know where to download the package manually?
[07:25] <gregorovius> chowmeined, I can't see anything that looks like line-in there
[07:25] <Kream> I think that some of the servers that in.archive.ubuntu.com are not working. How do I check the availability of the servers that in.archive.ubuntu.com maps to ?
[07:25] <therealnanotube> Lam_: well, i run with basically standard fonts, but say, when i run into some japanese or other non-english sites they display just fine.
[07:25] <chowmeined> gregorovius: im not sure then
[07:25] <Kream> for example, in.archive.ubuntu.com maps to prat.canonical.com, which is up
[07:25] <kernel06> where can i add users for vsftpd
[07:25] <jtt> Enselic__, packages.ubuntu.org
[07:25] <GTPilot> is there an easy way to associate my wireless module with a different one?
[07:25] <Kream> 91.189.89.8 is the address of prat.canonical.com.
[07:25] <gregorovius> okay, chowmeined, thanks
[07:25] <Lam_> therealnanotube: oh no. my browser fonts work fine. it's the ones that are appearing in the file manager that are screwy for some reason
[07:26] <Kream> in.archive.ubuntu.com also maps to 91.189.89.6, which is NOT up
[07:26] <Kream> and nor is 91.189.88.31
[07:26] <Enselic__> kernel06: the documentation has an example file for virtual users, google and check it out
[07:26] <gregorovius> anyone knows which file in /dev/ corresponds to line-in?
[07:26] <Kream> can someone ping the abovementioned IP addresses and see if they are up ?
[07:26] <AbiGeuS> asd
[07:26] <AbiGeuS> hi
[07:26] <therealnanotube> Lam_: ah, i see... i don't think i have any files named in non-english characters.
[07:27] <nu2ubu> it seems that this is a little  to new to me see you all soon bye!
[07:27] <Enselic__> Kream: We are on the same internet :) if you can't ping, we can't
[07:27] <therealnanotube> Kream: i just went to http://91.189.89.6/ and it showed up just fine.
[07:27] <Kream> Enselic__:  see ?
[07:27] <Enselic__> Kream: ping the IP, not the domain
[07:27] <therealnanotube> Kream: and so is 91.189.88.31
[07:28] <micahcowan> gregorovius, typically, the same as the output device: /dev/dsp. Reading from it gets you mike input, Writing to it sends it out through the sound card.
[07:28] <Kream> --- 91.189.89.6 ping statistics ---
[07:28] <Kream> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5009ms
[07:28] <nonuda_> Flannel: r u still there?
[07:28] <therealnanotube> Kream:
[07:28] <therealnanotube> --- 91.189.88.31 ping statistics ---
[07:28] <therealnanotube> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2010ms
[07:28] <Enselic__> Kream: hmm weird :/
[07:28] <chowmeined> micahcowan: wow really?
[07:28] <Kream> very.
[07:28] <darwin> What command can I use with wget to download everything (including images) on a website?
[07:29] <Kream> techsamvadak@gateway:~$ tracepath 91.189.89.6
[07:29] <Kream>  1:  ABTS-NCR-Dynamic-157.179.163.122.airtelbroadband.in (122.163.179.157)   1.104ms pmtu 1492
[07:29] <Kream>  1:  no reply
[07:29] <Kream>  2:  no reply
[07:29] <micahcowan> chowmeined, according to the OSS docs I have. Can't guarantee for non-OSS, but, yeah.
[07:29] <therealnanotube> Kream: hmm, weird, but the .6 address i just pinged failed to reply
[07:29] <chowmeined> Is ubuntu server edition closer to debian stable? I mean, does it have less testing/unstable packages and in general uses more of the stable packages?
[07:29] <pierce> dos anyone know how to change the default java runtime?
[07:29] <crdlb> chowmeined, server and desktop use the same packages
[07:29] <pierce> *does
[07:30] <Kream> if i were to hazard a guess, i would say it's a gateway routing problem somewhere
[07:30] <therealnanotube> Kream: .6 fails to reply to pings, but i can go to it through http just fine. maybe it just has a firewall rule on it to block pings?
[07:30] <crdlb> chowmeined, dapper server is very stable though and supported for 5 years
[07:30] <micahcowan> pierce, probably via update-alternatives.
[07:30] <GTPilot> wireless issue: my aironet 350 shows up as using an e100 driver in lshw, . anyone know how i can change that to use the airo_cs module?
[07:30] <seamus7> hi.. are there any standard problems when burning ubuntu desktop cd images ... i've checked their md5sums  but still .... the disks aren't working for me when i try to install
[07:30] <darwin> ??
[07:30] <intrepidus> Can someone help me find out what hard drive Grub refers to when it says hd(0,00? I want to install Ubuntu again, but I don't want Grub to override my Windows MBR. I'm installing it on its own disk, and last time it ate the MBR and I couldn't boot to Windows without grub :/
[07:30] <therealnanotube> chowmeined: server editioin just means it doesn't have all the gui desktop stuff in it by default.
[07:30] <Kream> therealnanotube:  telnet to port 80 doesn't respond
[07:31] <micahcowan> pierce, do "update-alternatives --list java", and then "update-alternatives --set java <your choice>"
[07:31] <pierce> micahcowan: thanks, ill give that a shot
[07:31] <therealnanotube> intrepidus: safest way :unplug the driwe with the windows on it before installing ubuntu ;)
[07:31] <clearzen> Kream: telnet is port 22
[07:31] <intrepidus> therealnanotube: s'what I normally do. hate that method :P
[07:31] <crdlb> intrepidus, that's /dev/hda1 probably
[07:31] <Kream> clearzen:  thank you. but if you telnet to port 80 on a webserver then you get a response. i'm not getting one from .6
[07:31] <chowmeined> that would've helped that person in alaska if he'd have done that...
[07:31] <Flannel> nonuda_: sorry, I have no idea
[07:31] <darkhack> hellow all!
[07:31] <fiery_cleric> i thought 23
[07:31] <clearzen> Kream: oh cool nvm then
[07:32] <crdlb> intrepidus, but grubs names them in a different order than linux sometimes
[07:32] <gregorovius> micahcowan: thanks a lot
[07:32] <intrepidus> crdlb: which is always good fun and confusing :(
[07:32] <sbn> How can you be really sure that your display driver is installed correctly?
[07:32] <Kream> clearzen:  :)
[07:32] <therealnanotube> Kream: wow, weird, telnet to port 80 fails, but i can browse the directory tree through firefox with no problems
[07:32] <micahcowan> gregorovius, yw :)
[07:32] <crdlb> sbn, what video card?
[07:32] <Kream> therealnanotube:  not opening on any browser here. no wonder apt fails.
[07:32] <kernel06> Enselic: which documentation is it ubuntu?
[07:32] <sbn> X800xl
[07:32] <sbn> ati(msi)
[07:32] <crdlb> sbn, fglrxinfo
[07:32] <Kream> hey! there's a #canonical channel, isnt there ?
[07:33] <darkhack> there may sound dumb but where are the wallpaper and icon image locate on ubuntu?
[07:33] <crdlb> sbn, if it says anything about mesa, it's not working
[07:33] <Ax3> anyone successfully dual boot ubuntu and vista?
[07:33] <sbn> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XL Generic
[07:33] <Enselic__> kernel06: ftp://vsftpd.beasts.org/users/cevans/untar/vsftpd-2.0.5/EXAMPLE     the virtual users folders e.g.
[07:33] <Ax3> wondering if it can be done (cleanly)
[07:33] <therealnanotube> Kream: just run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed -e 's/in.ubuntu.archive.com/nl.ubuntu.archive.com/'", and you're good to go?
[07:33] <AbiGeuS> Sa9ItrI0 re
[07:33] <darkhack> I keep forgetting
[07:33] <nonuda_> Flannel: ah ok then, btw i believe the windows has broken..since its been weeks i never boot windows, to much time i have spent to playing with ubuntu.. ;)
[07:33] <kernel06> Enselic:thanks
[07:33] <therealnanotube> Kream: (oh, and dont forget to sudo, and to actually pipe the output to a file. :) but you get the idea)
[07:34] <Kream> therealnanotube:  of course. I can just put .8 in the hosts file
[07:34] <Kanji_Man> answer to my earlier question: to create an ntfs partition on an empty drive .. 1) Use GParted to create an unformatted partition  2) use the utility "mkntfs" (available from ntfsprogs apt-get package) to format the partition ntfs
[07:34] <therealnanotube> Kream: that too. :)
[07:34] <Kream> but there seems to be some sort of problem with the canonical servers, which I wanted to figure out.
[07:34] <Kream> #canonical has moved.
[07:34] <Kream> anyone from Canonical here ?
[07:34] <gregorovius> micahcowan, just one more thing: when I do 'cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp' I hear the correct sound, but it sounds dirty, not right... could it be due to the sample rate or something alike?
[07:34] <darkhack> anyone know here?
[07:35] <sbn> crdlb, well, I'm having some weird display stuff with the 17-11 kernel
[07:35] <chowmeined> darkhack: somewhere under /usr/share probably
[07:35] <crdlb> sbn, sorry, I'm terrible at fglrx
[07:35] <chowmeined> darkhack: if you know the name of one of the wallpapers you could do: find /usr/share -iname "wallpaper"... and it should tell you
[07:36] <Kanji_Man> dark: I know the wallpapers are in /usr/share/backgrounds
 thanks and let see if I can find it...
[07:36] <seamus7> What's the difference between the cd installation disk and the dvd installation disk?
[07:36] <clearzen> darkhack: what are you looking for?
[07:36] <Ax3> anyone successfully dual boot ubuntu and vista?
[07:36] <Flannel> seamus7: the amount of packages on them
[07:36] <gerzel> Hey I got a kb508bk backlit keyboard with 18 multi media keys I'm trying to figure out how to set things up so they work.
[07:37] <seamus7> Flannel: but installation should be relatively the same?
[07:37] <gerzel> I'm stuck and really and hoping for some help.
[07:37] <therealnanotube> Ax3: ive got ubuntu and xp, if that helps. :)
[07:37] <chowmeined> darkhack: /usr/share/backgrounds
[07:37] <seamus7> Ax3: I do
[07:37] <sbn> crdlb, I think it's more an X problem
[07:37] <micahcowan> gregorovius, dsp defaults to 8-bit, 8kHz, so quite possibly. Those settings are not at all appropriate for real work.
[07:37] <Flannel> seamus7: yeah, as far as I know.
[07:37] <fiery_cleric> !ask
[07:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <Ax3> ok
[07:38] <emet> Fiesty woot!
[07:38] <Ax3> well my gf just bought a new lappy
[07:38] <Ax3> and of course it has windows
[07:38] <crdlb> sbn, it's a fglrx problem, those drivers do all kinds of crazy things
[07:38] <emet> windows lol
[07:38] <Ax3> and i wanna show her feisty
[07:38] <emet> she will love you for it!
[07:38] <dac> what about dual boot ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:38] <micahcowan> gregorovius, (that is, on devices that support 8KHz to begin with: it's not a portable assumption, just FYI)
[07:38] <bill_k> gerzel: looked into keybinding?
[07:38] <Ax3> vista is so ridiculous
[07:38] <Ax3> this laptop is crawling
[07:38] <Ax3> and its new :S
[07:38] <gerzel> bill_k: Not sure how.
[07:38] <emet> lol pwned
[07:38] <bill_k> I killed vista an hour ago
[07:38] <gerzel> Er how to go about doing that.
[07:39] <ybott> Hello, a new ubuntu user.  I plugged my zip drive into my computer, It asked me what do you want to do, I clicked open in new window, but nothing happened. How do I mount a zip drive or find wherever it went?
[07:39] <Kanji_Man> ubuntu+beryl+kiba > vista
[07:39] <emet> in soviet russia, vista kills you
[07:39] <emet> !kiba
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <Ax3> so yea gonna dual boot, sry i don't wanna turn the channel
[07:39] <Ax3> into a vista bash
[07:39] <Ax3> bash-fest*
[07:39] <Ax3> :p
[07:39] <bill_k> gerzel: plenty of resources on google, but I haven't had time to do it myself.. peek at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265928
[07:39] <bill_k> !keybinding
[07:39] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:39] <seamus7> Ax3: I had XP and Edgy ... I installed Vista as a fresh install ... then reinstalled Edgy /  while leaving my /home partition alone. Grub recognized windows and all was well. :)
[07:39] <emet> !info kiba
[07:39] <ubotu> Package kiba does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:39] <emet> errr
[07:39] <bill_k> !Shortcuts | gerzel
[07:39] <ubotu> gerzel: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:39] <emet> what is kiba
[07:40] <bill_k> aha perfect
[07:40] <titun> how do i force close a application that is not working
[07:40] <Ax3> seamus7, ok thanks for the encouraging words, gonna try it now
[07:40] <gerzel> ok thanks
[07:40] <crdlb> titun, run xkill, then click on it
[07:40] <bill_k> sure, good luck
[07:40] <seamus7> Ax3: oh and i'm on a dell e1505 laptop
[07:40] <ybott> anybody know what device a zip drive sits on?
[07:40] <crdlb> titun, there's also a panel applet you can add
[07:41] <gerzel> Also is there a way to switch to a dvorak lay out?  Or does that require a whole different keyboard?
[07:41] <Zoiks> im having a problem when I click on a link in some programs it adds file:///home/matt/%22 to the front of the url in firefox
[07:41] <fiery_cleric> ybott: no idean but type dmesg to see any kernel messages that might be generated by u pluggin in your zip drive
[07:41] <Zoiks> any ideas?
[07:41] <gregorovius> micahcowan, that's probably correct, it sounds like 8khz... I just need to 'cat dsp > dsp', do you know how can make it do 44100/16bits?
[07:41] <GTPilot> anyone in here using a cisco aironet 350 card that i can compare notes with?
[07:41] <Kanji_Man> emet: I was able to install kiba easily by following this tutorial --> http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/search/label/kiba-dock
[07:41] <titun> crdlb, thanks :-) worked
[07:41] <xyz-abc> where will "network manager" show up once it's installed?
[07:41] <GTPilot> anyone in here using a cisco aironet 350 card that i can compare notes with?
[07:41] <GTPilot> sorry
[07:42] <kane77> xyz-abc, in tray
[07:42] <micahcowan> gregorovius, you need to do an ioctl on the device while you still have it open: I don't believe it'll be possible in a shell, unless you have a shell that supports ioctl, and are willing to do some "exec" tricks.
[07:42] <xyz-abc> kane, what tray?
[07:42] <therealnanotube> gerzel: i'm using dvorak, without any special keyboard. just switch layouts in the keyboard control panel.
[07:42] <bill_k> gerzel: you have to pop off your keyboard keys :)
[07:42] <therealnanotube> gerzel: of course, that means you have to know touch-typing on dvorak.
[07:42] <ybott> fiery_cleric:  there is a message there about it.
[07:43] <bill_k> therealnanotube: nah, just re-arrange the keyboard keys :)
[07:43] <therealnanotube> bill_k: the whole point of dvorak is only useful if you touch-type. switching keys is counterproductive.
[07:43] <ubd> there a program that view fps by rendering 3d animation whats it
[07:43] <therealnanotube> bill_k: hunt-n-peck is the same no matter what layout you use, so what's the point of switching? ;)
[07:44] <therealnanotube> ubd: glxgears ?
[07:44] <Shootfast> glxgears
[07:44] <clearzen> ubd: is it glx gears
[07:44] <ubd> thanks
[07:44] <crdlb> ubd, glxgears -printfps
[07:44] <gregorovius> micahcowan, that sounds too complicated for me, I hope there's a simpler way to do what I need to do
[07:44] <gregorovius> micahcowan, it doesn't have to be command-line, if you know of a GUI way to do it, that'd work too
[07:44] <micahcowan> There's got to be a simple program that does what you want, but I don't know what it would be off-hand.
[07:44] <therealnanotube> GTPilot: have you tried searching google?
[07:45] <bill_k> therealnanotube: ooh
[07:45] <GTPilot> therealnanotube, god yes lol
[07:45] <bill_k> i need typing lessons
[07:45] <ph33rz> Could ne one give me a hand with installing my video card i installed the nvidia rpm but still no luck when i do glxgears in term.. i get this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:45] <ph33rz> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[07:45] <gregorovius> micahcowan: SoX, maybe? just guessing
[07:46] <odat> hi everyone
[07:46] <Shootfast> hi odat
[07:46] <ubd> 1572 frames in 5.2 seconds = 300.031 FPS  but i didnt actually see a 300 fps animation... about 5-10 fps
[07:46] <odat> is the nvidia 9631 driver working yet?
[07:46] <micahcowan> gregorovius, afraid I really wouldn't know :(
[07:46] <therealnanotube> bill_k: if you are curious, and have some time to kill, you can learn dvorak touch typing in a week or two. ;)
[07:46] <xyz-abc> Help: I installed "network manager" and cant find it's loading icon
[07:46] <gregorovius> micahcowan, thanks a lot anyways
[07:46] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: install package "network-manager-gnome", that sets up the panel icon.
[07:46] <bill_k> therealnanotube: any lesson/ learn typing program for linux?
[07:46] <crdlb> odat, what do you mean by working?
[07:46] <Shootfast> odat: if by working you mean crashing frequently than yes
[07:47] <micahcowan> gregorovius, yw
[07:47] <therealnanotube> bill_k: bunches of them. :) let me look up a list for you.
[07:47] <bill_k> therealnanotube: I can look for packages or at sourceforge if you don't know offhand
[07:47] <odat> Shootfast, i know my card is supported by the nvidia 9631 driver but it crashes x on start up
[07:47] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: isn't that the same as installing it thru the synaptic?
[07:47] <Kream> anyone here who works for canonical ? there seems to be a routing problem getting to their mirrors.
[07:47] <therealnanotube> bill_k: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard#Typing_tutors_with_Dvorak_support
[07:48] <crdlb> odat, where'd you get the driver?
[07:48] <Kream> the closest i could find is mdz, the CTO, but he's been idle for 10h
[07:48] <bill_k> ha thanks
[07:48] <nonuda_> Flannel: u r there?
[07:48] <odat> crdlb, the repos
[07:48] <crdlb> odat, which repos?
[07:48] <Shootfast> odat: are you using the drivers from the repos or from Nvidia
[07:48] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: there's 'network-manager', and also 'network-manager-gnome'. two different things. at least that's how it is on dapper. :)
[07:48] <`123> anyone have an idea of how to connect to a vpn with ubuntu 6.06? ive used pptpconfig and tried following everything on the forums/faq/manual
[07:48] <`123> but nothing is working
[07:48] <odat> ubuntu repos
[07:48] <ubd> whats the delete partition command i dont want to use gparted
[07:48] <crdlb> odat, then you're on feisty?
[07:48] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: but yea, i do mean getting it with synaptic.
[07:48] <Shootfast> odat: whats your card?
[07:48] <odat> crdlb, yes
[07:48] <crdlb> odat, #ubuntu+1 then
[07:48] <`123> it connects, but it does not resolve anything
[07:49] <odat> shoot^, nv15
[07:49] <`123> it almost seems as though it is looping to itself
[07:49] <haiba> how to restore masterboot for ubuntu after install winxp
[07:49] <therealnanotube> bill_k: the simplest one with no frills is here: http://www.gigliwood.com/abcd/ :)
[07:49] <Cosmo_> wastrel:  ok for the lpr driver I installed it and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[07:49] <bill_k> well thanks again
[07:50] <ubd> hey, how do i delete a patition from console?
[07:50] <odat> shoot^, its a GTS/Pro
[07:50] <bill_k> therealnanotube: do you have any experience with bluetooth mice/ keyboards?  The on I have is *supposed* to work out of the box but I can't get it working.  It shows it's connected, and I see a bt icon flash in the tray for a fraction of a second whenever i ht the keyboard
[07:50] <therealnanotube> ubd: man fdisk
[07:51] <bill_k> whenever I hit the keyboard (keys)
[07:51] <bill_k> i want to hit the whole thing though
[07:51] <odat> is the nvidia 9631 driver working yet?
[07:51] <therealnanotube> bill_k: no, all my peripherals are connected with wires. sorry. :)
[07:51] <bill_k> logitech dinovo media desktop
[07:51] <bill_k> bleh wires
[07:51] <Shootfast> odat: well the driver works ok for me
[07:51] <therealnanotube> bill_k: hehe, at least they work! :)
[07:51] <bill_k> bluetooth is biting me in the @$$
[07:52] <bill_k> funny tooth is in the name
[07:52] <therealnanotube> bill_k: haha, i was about to point that out
[07:52] <odat> Shootfast, not the nvidia-glx-new  driver
[07:52] <odat> shoot^, the nvidia-glx  driver
[07:52] <bill_k> lol
[07:53] <chowmeined> where is upstart's man pages?
[07:53] <ubd> therealnanotube: fdisk does not delete partitions, afai read from man.
[07:53] <bill_k> i stole a ps/2 keyboard from the lab downstairs (in a college dorm) gotta get it fixed before they look at the security camera and come after me!
[07:53] <`123> anyone have some advice for connecting to a vpn?
[07:53] <pkundu> hi I want the source of the kernel. Which pkg shld I install using apt-get
[07:53] <Shootfast> odat: Im using nvidia-glx
[07:53] <Transience> '123, is the vpn already established?
[07:53] <bill_k> pkundu: kernel.org
[07:54] <Transience> or do you want to make one?
[07:54] <therealnanotube> ubd: ah, sorry, try 'parted' then?
[07:54] <darkhack> is there a way to aligned icons on the right instead of left.
[07:54] <`123> its established
[07:54] <darkhack> sort of like mac
[07:54] <darkhack> hehe
[07:55] <Shootfast> odat: maybe try an older driver from the nvidia website
[07:55] <`123> but it doesnt resolve anything
[07:55] <Transience> oh
[07:55] <`123> kills all routing
[07:55] <Transience> mm
[07:55] <Transience> no idea
[07:55] <`123> yeah
[07:55] <`123> its a real pita
[07:55] <Transience> sorry
[07:55] <`123> np
[07:55] <therealnanotube> pkundu: search in synaptic for "kernel" or "linux", one of them will be the obvious choice. :)
[07:55] <bill_k> he wants source code, is that repository in by default?
[07:56] <Flannel> !kernel | pkundu
[07:56] <ubotu> pkundu: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:56] <therealnanotube> bill_k: yea, kernel sources are in the repos
[07:56] <bill_k> ok
[07:56] <Ademan> anyone know if there's a Qt theme that makes Qt mimick your gtk theme?
[07:56] <darkhack> you know, I'm predicting that in ubuntu 10 or so will end up like mac or maybe a little bit like mac
[07:56] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: even after installing network-manager-gnome (thru synaptic), I still cant find how to load it
[07:56] <bill_k> as long as it's not like windows
[07:56] <bill_k> vista is not functional, just sparkly
[07:56] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: run "nm-applet"
[07:57] <darkhack> hell I'm tired of windows
[07:57] <bill_k> mac is functional at least, even if it is proprietary
[07:57] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: and to start it automatically when you log in, just add that to your session startup.
[07:57] <bill_k> darkhack: make the switch
[07:57] <beg1689> crap
[07:57] <chowmeined> darkhack: why will it end up like mac?
[07:57] <Shootfast> darkhack: Im running OSX on my pc, so i dont have to switch :P
[07:57] <therealnanotube> darkhack: the question is, what will mac be like by the time we have ubuntu 10 :)
[07:57] <darkhack> bill_k I alread switch to linx now for the past 3 month now
[07:58] <chowmeined> darkhack: mac isnt nearly as flexible as linux
[07:58] <beg1689> i made a mistake can someone help me? im tried to give my user a secondary group, which i did successfully (i checked with id) but now it says im no longer in the sudoers file
[07:58] <beg1689> now my system is lost?
[07:58] <therealnanotube> beg1689: you have to reboot in "recovery mode" and edit your sudoers file on the console
[07:59] <bill_k> darkhack: you're a bit ahead of me then
[07:59] <therealnanotube> !sudoers | beg1689
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <therealnanotube> !/etc/sudoers
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc/sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <chowmeined> ubotu: :P
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <darkhack> lol
[07:59] <chowmeined> no, you go search and give me the response
[07:59] <therealnanotube> chowmeined: yea, you tell him! :)
[07:59] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: nm-applet (when run in terminal) does nothing
[07:59] <Shootfast> lol
[08:00] <fiery_cleric> ubutu: lol
[08:00] <darkhack> bill_k, I'm still trying to get used to linux a bit at a time.
[08:00] <chowmeined> when is java going to be fully open sourced?
[08:00] <fiery_cleric> ubotu: lol
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <darkhack> TI'm using opensuse and ubuntu
[08:00] <chowmeined> ubotu: anything
[08:00] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:00] <bill_k> darkhack: same here.  still dual booting, but using windows VERY rarely
[08:00] <darkhack> both are pretty good
[08:00] <chowmeined> hah!
[08:00] <beg1689> i dont need a password to run recovery mode?
[08:00] <ardchoille> !botabuse
[08:00] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:01] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: nothing appears in the system tray? ... strange. well, maybe it doesn't work the same way as it does on dapper (that's what i'm still running). try rebooting (yea, i know...), and if it still doesn't work, i'm probably just using outdated info.
[08:01] <chowmeined> ok fine
[08:01] <bill_k> !bluetooth | bill_k
[08:01] <Flannel> beg1689: no, unless you've set your root password
[08:01] <beg1689> ok
[08:01] <beg1689> ill see what i can do
[08:01] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: you were right, it did show up, sorry
[08:01] <therealnanotube> beg1689: no you don't need a password. it logs you in as root automatically.
[08:01] <beg1689> ok
[08:02] <darkhack> if I'm able to understand how linx work, I might just join the programming team and come up with something new
[08:02] <beg1689> here goes
[08:02] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: oh, heh, ok. makes me feel better that i'm not completely out of date. hehe.
[08:02] <fiery_cleric> !linx
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <bill_k> therealnanotube: who should I bug for bluetooth help?  I should mention i'm on kubuntu feisty,
[08:02] <darkhack> Anyone here ever seen ghost in the shell?
[08:02] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: however, this app seems to have no configuration options...
[08:02] <Shootfast> yes
[08:02] <darkhack> would be great if we have that os
[08:02] <darkhack> lo;l
[08:03] <Shootfast> im always on the look out for that kinda ting
[08:03] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: click on the icon, it will give you a menu...
[08:03] <therealnanotube> bill_k: heh, if we were talking somewhere else, i'd say "try #ubuntu".
[08:03] <darkhack> u know what I'm talking about right?
[08:03] <Shootfast> ida though out of all the nerds who've seen it, and all the nerds from that group who program, at least one would have tried it :(
[08:03] <therealnanotube> bill_k: but actually, since you are using feisty, you should try #ubuntu+1, since that's the forum for feisty until it gets released
[08:04] <bill_k> ok, thanks
[08:04] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: it doesnt recognize my wireless adapter i think... i guess i'll look for another app
[08:04] <crdlb> fiery_cleric, are you looking for lynx, or maybe links?
[08:04] <fiery_cleric> crdlb: no just abusing the bots
[08:04] <therealnanotube> darkhack: yea, GITS rocks! :)
[08:04] <Toufas> guys, i just burned ubuntu on a disc, booted, select the option to install, got the loading screen, then screen goes black, i hear some music playing and then no disk activity and nothing on screen
[08:05] <`123> !vpn
[08:05] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[08:05] <NemesisD> could anyone expand upon the "migration tools" in the next ubuntu release?
[08:06] <NemesisD> i'm thinking about installing it on my laptop :O
[08:06] <sciboy_> Hey, anyone familiar with nvidia issues?
[08:06] <Shootfast> ubotu: life
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <darkhack> therealnanotube> I think I need to rewatch all the episode again.
[08:06] <Shootfast> sciboy: whats the problem
[08:06] <therealnanotube> Toufas: probably something it doesn't like about your video card. once it gets to "no disk activity", switch to another vty (ctl-alt-f2), then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the "vesa" driver. but actually, first things first - did you check to make sure you don't have a bad burn or bad download?
[08:06] <sciboy_> X can't initialise the device and proc shows: Video BIOS: ??.??.??.??.??
[08:06] <Toufas> i will check the disc now
[08:06] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: what's the output of "ifconfig"?
[08:07] <Toufas> and let you know
[08:07] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: if ifconfig doesn't show it, then nothing will.
[08:07] <darkhack> alright folks, anyone using feisty right now is able to run beryl/xgl
[08:07] <Shootfast> sciboy: which driver did you install
[08:07] <shazzr> hi. when running tvtime, i all of a sudden get a message telling me the following: "permission denied. cannot open capture device /dev/video0". That is if i run it as normal user. It works when i do "sudo tvtime". How can i give regular users access to tvtime?
[08:07] <Flannel> darkhack: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty
[08:07] <therealnanotube> darkhack: heh, if only i had the time. :)
[08:07] <Shootfast> darkhat: of course
[08:08] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: ifconfig recognizes it, my wireless adapter does work and this is how I installed it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)
[08:08] <Shootfast> darkhat: wait, you said xgl, im running nvidia
[08:08] <darkhack> I got it working but sux I can run aiglx
[08:08] <Shootfast> darkhat: whats the problem with it?
[08:09] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: if you want network-manager to manage your adapter, then you have to comment out any references to it in more /etc/network/interfaces
[08:09] <sciboy_> Shootfast, I used 8776 and 9746, both having issues.
[08:09] <bill_k> there's no pong in ubuntu+1
[08:09] <therealnanotube> !networkmanager | xyz-abc
[08:09] <ubotu> xyz-abc: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[08:09] <darkhack> my video card doesn't support aiglx
[08:09] <darkhack> ati suck like durt
[08:09] <Shootfast> darkhack: why not? what model?
[08:09] <crdlb> darkhack, what card?
[08:10] <Shootfast> sciboy: where did you install them from, and what card do you have
[08:10] <darkhack> ati x600
[08:10] <crdlb> darkhack, you could theoretically use the free drivers on feisty
[08:10] <crdlb> darkhack, they're not particularly fast though on an x600
[08:10] <Shootfast> darkhack: yeah the free drivers will be fine
[08:10] <darkhack> I know
[08:10] <therealnanotube> shazzr: change permissions on /dev/video0+
[08:10] <therealnanotube> shazzr: change permissions on /dev/video0 ?
[08:10] <sciboy_> Shootfast, For debugging purposes i figured the most recent version would be more valid to developers.
[08:11] <Shootfast> sciboy: where are you getting the drivers from
[08:11] <sciboy_> Shootfast, Using module-assistant, from official source and a Geforce FX 5200
[08:11] <NemesisD> will migration-assistant allow you to pick and choose which directories to copy over when migrating from say xp to ubuntu 7.04?
[08:11] <Flannel> NemesisD: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty questions
[08:11] <NemesisD> rgr
[08:12] <darkhack> Anyway, like I said to all my opensuse friend, I think  this year and so on will be the year of linux
[08:12] <xyz-abc> therealnanotube: all I want is to be able to use WPA-PSK  encryption, do I really need network-manager-gnome for that?
[08:12] <Shootfast> sciboy: what version
[08:12] <sciboy_> Shootfast, Of what?
[08:13] <therealnanotube> xyz-abc: i don't think you need it, i'm pretty sure you can run wpa without network-manager. but i don't use wpa-psk myself, so i'm out of my expertise at this point. :)
[08:13] <crdlb> xyz-abc, network-admin doesn't support wpa, so there's no other graphical way to do it (except maybe with wifi-radar)
[08:13] <darkhack> Well I'm off now and yall take care now and keep on linuxing
[08:13] <darkhack> lol
[08:13] <Shootfast> sciboy: of ubuntu (edgy, dapper, feisty)
[08:13] <sacater> can do
[08:14] <xyz-abc> crdlb: so I should install wifi-radar?
[08:14] <Toufas> therealnanotube: i run the disk check, got till the end, then rebooted
[08:14] <Toufas> i guess thats normal?
[08:14] <crdlb> xyz-abc, I don't know that wifi-radar would support wpa
[08:14] <crdlb> xyz-abc, but network-manager definitely does
[08:15] <xyz-abc> crdlb: so i only need network manager, not network manager gnome?
[08:16] <crdlb> xyz-abc, network-manager-gnome will give you the "applet" so you do need it
[08:16] <Madpilot> cs d Seveas
[08:17] <Shootfast> sciboy: download the nvidia driver with this command wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run /home/YOUR HOME DIRECTORY
[08:17] <xyz-abc> crdlb: and how do I make network-manager-gnome recognize my awll3026 adapter?
[08:18] <NemesisD> #ubuntu+1 is pretty dead...
[08:18] <crdlb> xyz-abc, sorry no idea
[08:18] <|123> horray peer -_-
[08:19] <bill_k> lol, decompressed rar archive took up 99% of sdb
[08:19] <|123> anyone have ANY wild ideas about how to get this vpn connection working?
[08:19] <|123> anything at all
[08:19] <Toufas> crap :/
[08:19] <|123> im willing to accept anything, up to and including, rm -rf :(
[08:20] <bill_k> yeah, sudo rm -rf / (don't do it!)
[08:20] <fiery_cleric> |123: man openvpn :)
[08:20] <|123> it establishes, but kills all the connections
[08:20] <|123> openvpn any good?
[08:20] <cainmark> leaving
[08:20] <|123> meh, worth a shot
[08:20] <fiery_cleric> |123: works for me
[08:21] <|123> this is the last thing that is annoying me on linux
[08:21] <fiery_cleric> |123: trust me youll find more things.... :)
[08:21] <weiweipan> hi guys
[08:21] <|123> not likely :)
[08:21] <|123> until i upgrade
[08:21] <MarkFeathers> How do I check my arp table?  I want to be able to use it in a bash script to notify my when my arp changes
[08:21] <|123> its been two years so far without windows
[08:21] <Cosmo_>  I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:22] <|123> no reformats, and aside from the initial upgrade kinks, its been running perfectly (except the damn vpn)
[08:22] <fiery_cleric> MarkFeathers: arp -a
[08:22] <Ademan> how might one theme Qt applications from GNOME?
[08:23] <MarkFeathers> fiery_cleric: Is there a way to have it show me just the gateway's mac address?
[08:23] <Toufas> guys, i just burned ubuntu on a disc, booted, select the option to install, got the loading screen, then screen goes black, i hear some music playing and then no disk activity and nothing on screen i pressed ctrl alt f2, typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:24] <Toufas> then hen it asks me about the color depth i want i get a warning about overwriting possibly customised configuration
[08:24] <EADG> I just found a solution to an anoyance, not 10 minutes ago. I love screen in cli, but need X for stuff too... found out screen -d -RR runs my oopen session in xterm (Yakauke)!!! No more ctrl + alt + Fx. That just made my day :)
[08:28] <chr0n1c> what's up folks!
[08:29] <chr0n1c> i have been using the ubuntu/emc2 live cd,, i have to say it's awesome...
[08:29] <glick> hi all im ordering a dimension E520 from dell and was wondering if ubuntu will support that well?
[08:32] <tehxed> I'm having trouble with VLC Player not going fullscreen. I'm running Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 (AMD64 Installation) on an intel d805 2.66GHz(dual core). I checked around and I found the following website: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=32049 ; which in the end links to http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/changeset/19577 to use as a patch. I am not entirely sure what to do with the last link there. Can someone please h
[08:32] <tehxed> elp me out?
[08:32] <EADG> glick: Probly the best thing to do is pop 'round to www.ubuntuforums.org and do a quik search for any issues with that model.
[08:36] <Toufas> guys, i just burned ubuntu on a disc, booted, select the option to install, got the loading screen, then screen goes black, i hear some music playing and then no disk activity and nothing on screen i pressed ctrl alt f2, typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i get i get a warning about overwriting possibly customised configuration after few selections::
[08:37] <Cosmo_> is there a way to back up my settings incase I mess anything up and have to reinstall the OS?
[08:38] <Shootfast> Cosmo_: copy your home folder
[08:38] <tehxed> How often should I repeat my question? As in after how many minutes should I re-ask for help?
[08:38] <Shootfast> tehxed: whats the problem
[08:38] <Cosmo_> Shootfast: thanks
[08:39] <tehxed> Shootfast: I'm having trouble with VLC Player not going fullscreen. I'm running Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 (AMD64 Installation) on an intel d805 2.66GHz(dual core). I checked around and I found the following website: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=32049 ; which in the end links to http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/changeset/19577 to use as a patch. I am not entirely sure what to do with the last link there.
[08:40] <Shootfast> texhed: what happens when you go fullscreen?
[08:41] <tehxed> Shootfast: It basically maximizes the window.
[08:41] <Shootfast> texhed: so you can still see the window borders and such?
[08:42] <shazzr> my window borders are gone after loging out from X. :( Thought I just got it to work with beryl...but i guess not. :( i put the following in my xorg.conf: option "renderaccel" "true" and option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True"
[08:42] <tehxed> Shootfast: I just made some progress! Now, instead of seeing the top bar (Applications, Places, System, etc) AND the bottom bar..I only see the top one!
[08:42] <glick> sweet! just ordered a new machine! cant wait!
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:43] <Shootfast> texhed: you can change the video output driver
[08:43] <tehxed> glick: Nice! What sort of machine? (Specs)
[08:43] <tehxed> Shootfast: How would I go about doing that?
[08:44] <Toufas> i am a sad panda :(
[08:44] <Cosmo_>  I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[08:44] <glick> tehxed, a dell with 2.16ghz core duo, 2 gigs ram, 250 gig hd, nvidia 256mb 7300LE,
[08:44] <glick> and a nice 22 inch flat screen
[08:44] <pavs> whats the command for long listing?
[08:44] <glick> ls -l
[08:45] <Shootfast> texhed: I think its settings>>>Preferences>>Advanced Options>> Video output
[08:45] <tehxed> glick: Nice! Video card is a bit on the low end, but nice.
[08:45] <Shootfast> texhed: or you could switch to mplayer :P
[08:45] <tehxed> Shootfast: Right, I did that. i selected Xvideo for Video Output
[08:45] <pavs> in some linux distro i have seen "11" working as long listing (or was it "ll"?)
[08:45] <glick> tehxed, its good enough for beryl, and its good enough for civ
[08:45] <glick> lol
[08:45] <glick> pavs, ls -l
[08:45] <Shootfast> if you have a 3d card that works, you can try glx
[08:46] <glick> tehxed, basically i want it to play civ4
[08:46] <rsurfs> Hey I just created a new user and i have no sound regardles of what sound card i choose any help?
[08:46] <tehxed> Shootfast: And then I selected Xvideo and enabled "Alternate Fullscreen Method"
[08:46] <Shootfast> glick: my computers to new for some ubuntu stuff :(
[08:46] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: check permissions in system->admin->users and groups
[08:46] <glick> Shootfast, you have the same kind of machine?
[08:46] <Shootfast> texhed: how does it look now?
[08:47] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: alright thanks-i'll try
[08:47] <glick> maybe ill sell my laptop now
[08:47] <tehxed> Shootfast: Again, that's what I did to make the progress. Except I can still see the top bar...(Applications, Places, System, etc..)
[08:47] <Shootfast> glick: similar, only my mobo isnt supported properly
[08:47] <Shootfast> texhed: what version of vLC
[08:47] <glick> but ive been through thick and thin with this machine :( got me through college, kind of attached to it
[08:48] <glick> Shootfast, but it "runs" right?
[08:48] <Shootfast> glick: Just got my new lappy, ubuntu runs awesome on it
[08:48] <tehxed> Shootfast: VLC media player 0.8.6 (wxWidgets interface)
[08:48] <glick> i want to crush my brother like a worm!
[08:48] <Shootfast> glick: well atm it doesnt run at all :S, but my desktop aint a dell
[08:48] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: i have all of the permissions selected
[08:48] <Shootfast> dells usually work very well
[08:49] <Shootfast> texhed: Im pretty sure they fixed that in a later version
[08:49] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: so u have the one that reads "Use audio  devices" checked?
[08:49] <tehxed> Shootfast: I thought this was the latest version!
[08:49] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: yeah
[08:49] <Shootfast> texhed: oh wait, it is :S
[08:50] <tehxed> Shootfast: Thought it might be. =|
[08:50] <glick> man its so exciting awaiting the arrival of a new computer, kina like a baby on the way
[08:50] <glick> a new member of the family
[08:50] <Shootfast> texhed: try downloading mplayer from the repos
[08:50] <Shootfast> texhed: you wont be at all disapointed
[08:51] <tehxed> Shootfast: Doesn't mplayer require codecs and the such?
[08:51] <FriedGeek> Hello I'm hoping for a bit of help.
[08:51] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: i have two options under system->preferences->sound for default sound card: Dell Sound Blaster Live! and Intel ICH5
[08:51] <Shootfast> texhed: it plays nearly everything out of the box
[08:51] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: another program might be using the audio device ... ie if your soundcard dosent support hardware mixing and the offending application is using oss
[08:51] <FriedGeek> I've got the Nvidia drivers installed but I can't get a resolution higher than 1024x768, my LCD is 1280x1024 native.
[08:51] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: but it works for one user and not for the other one right
[08:51] <Shootfast> FriedGeek: how and where did you install them from
[08:52] <FriedGeek> Automatix
[08:52] <Shootfast> FriedGeek: uh oh.... the A word...
[08:52] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: hmm..how can i check if another program is? i know that the other user account works fine with either options
[08:52] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, remember the problem with the sound card during install?
[08:53] <tehxed> Shootfast: When I try to run a file in Mplayer I get the following error: 'Fatal Error' "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[08:53] <variant> FriedGeek: nvidia drivers are unsuported.. ask nvidia for help
[08:53] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, got ubuntu installed, but now has the same problem when logging in. how do i command line log in
[08:54] <nextstate> How can I get the arrow keys on the numpad to select text when I hold down the shift key? I tried playing with /etc/X11/xkb/types/basic to no avail. Any ideas?
[08:54] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: press ctrl-alt-f1
[08:54] <FriedGeek> Thanks Variant.
[08:54] <variant> tehxed: thats a bug in the ubuntu mplayer version. if you open a terminal and type "mplayer /path/to/video.avi/mpeg/etc" it should play
[08:54] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: not sure ... have u got mplayer installed ?
[08:54] <Duckinthetrunk> shootfast, thanks
[08:54] <variant> FriedGeek: yeah, not very helpfull was it ? :P
[08:54] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: yeah why? could that be a problem?
[08:55] <fiery_cleric> nextstate: numlock?
[08:55] <Shootfast> texhed: run mplayer and then go preferences and set you video output
[08:55] <variant> FriedGeek: have you tried the nvidia-settings program?
[08:55] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: Howd you get it installed in the end
[08:55] <tehxed> variant: Is there any way I can get it running from using the MPlayer gui?
[08:55] <FriedGeek> Then can I rephrase the question, how might one get something like Xconfig to run?
[08:55] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, the alt distro worked
[08:55] <variant> tehxed: yeah, open gmplayer (thats the "Mplayer" from the menu) and change video output settings
[08:55] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: no its good for testing ... try mplayer myaudiofile and see what error it gives u
[08:56] <Shootfast> FriedGeek come here #Shootfast
[08:56] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, I can even log in, but then it gets hung up again playing the same sound over and over
[08:56] <variant> FriedGeek: did you try nvidia-settings?
[08:56] <FriedGeek> Yes the Nvidia panel offers all kinds of helpful stuff about my Open GL... color settings etc...
[08:56] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, I've got to change the sound card driver, or just plain disable it
[08:56] <tehxed> variant: Nice! now to fix the audio settings
[08:56] <Duckinthetrunk> damn Toshiba hardware
[08:56] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: I might be able to get you a fix
[08:57] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, I'm interested
[08:57] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: try here firsts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:57] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: it gave me a fatal error! error opening/initializing the selected video out (-vo) device
[08:57] <nextstate> fiery_cleric: I think that ends up moving the cursor around, which is the same results I'm getting with chaning the basic file. I also don't want numlocks on on the time because I use the keypad for navigation. I did this in kde sometime ago. But that knowledge has been forgotten. :(
[08:59] <fiery_cleric> nextstate: not sure ...maybe look at system->preferences->keyboard ....
[08:59] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: try it with just a audio file ie mp3/ogg
[08:59] <tehxed> variant: I get the following error whenever I play a movie: "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation." The sound works and so does the video but that comes up every time. I'm not sure if that's a serious problem or will be down the road, so I just want to fix it now. Know anything about it?.
[08:59] <Toufas> guys, i just burned ubuntu on a disc, booted, select the option to install, got the loading screen, then screen goes black, i hear some music playing and then no disk activity and nothing on screen i pressed ctrl alt f2, typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i get i get a warning about overwriting possibly customised configuration after few selections.what should i do?
[08:59] <nextstate> yeah, did that, thanks anyways
[09:00] <fiery_cleric> nextstate: there is something in there about numpad ...
[09:00] <Shootfast> texhed: you need to install the mp3 libs
[09:01] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: it says "requested audio codec famiy [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation.
[09:01] <kane77> Toufas, backup your xorg.conf first... it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, i'll give these tips a try and check back
[09:02] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, thanks
[09:02] <fiery_cleric> nextstate: system->preferences->keyboard->layout options->miscellaneous compatibility options->shift with numpad keys work as in MS windows .... maybe?
[09:02] <tehxed> tehxed
[09:02] <chr0n1c> any tips for getting an ens1370 to work?
[09:02] <chr0n1c> ens1370 soundcard*
[09:02] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: no problem
[09:03] <nextstate> fiery_cleric: yeah, it says Shift+Numpad works as in MS Windows. Oh, you beat me to it. Well, it just moves the cursor around and does not select text.
[09:03] <tehxed> Shootfast: How do i go about installing these "mp3 libs" ?
[09:03] <kane77> Toufas, do something like this "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[09:03] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: try some of the .wav files in /usr/share/sounds ...
[09:03] <Shootfast> i think theyre in the xine stuff, hang on
[09:04] <Toufas> trying now
[09:04] <adriaticator> I just upgraded to Feisty and my dual monitor setup is no longer one desktop spread across two screens. It's now two completely independent screens and there is no way to reach display #2, any ideas?
[09:04] <adriaticator> So I see two desktops but can only move my mouse around one.
[09:04] <tehxed> Shootfast: Hanging on.
[09:05] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric:  wav file plays yet i here
[09:05] <GTroy> !feisty fawn
[09:05] <rsurfs> nothing
[09:05] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:05] <fiery_cleric> !Xinerama
[09:06] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:06] <fiery_cleric> rsurfs: volume ... right click on speaker in panel then open volume control
[09:06] <GTroy> any know how close the beta of fawn is to the finished product?
[09:07] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: ok
[09:07] <GTroy> I'm doing an install for a non *nix person.....should I wait for thursday?
[09:07] <FriedGeek> If I know my hardware supports 1280x1024 how can I probe/add that res to my list?
[09:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, fixres | FriedGeek
[09:08] <ubotu> FriedGeek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:08] <GTroy> FriedGeek, you chang your xorg.conf file
[09:09] <GTroy> !beta
[09:09] <ubotu> Download Feisty Fawn Beta at http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04, read release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta and upgrade instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades; consider doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing; Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean it is - final releases happen when they do for a reason, be warned and prepared for unbootable systems.
[09:09] <FriedGeek> Thanks for the help guys, off to break stuff ;-)
[09:09] <GTroy> good luck
[09:09] <GTroy> *at not breaking anything*
[09:09] <Madpilot> have fun. remember, you get to keep all the pieces.
[09:09] <stone-unix> http://gaoghy.googlepages.com/welinux.png  the rough linux-ubuntu sketch
[09:10] <stone-unix> please show it to newbie, drawn with yed. http://gaoghy.googlepages.com/welinux.png
[09:10] <tehxed> Welcome back, Shootfast!
[09:10] <Shootfast> texhed: It froze :l
[09:11] <fiery_cleric> !info yed
[09:11] <Shootfast> lousy nvidia
[09:11] <ubotu> Package yed does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:11] <tehxed> I like nVidia. ATI has always been rough on me.
[09:11] <Ax3> anyone know how to resize the Vista partition, so i can fit ubuntu?
[09:11] <Ax3> does vista have tools for repartitioning?
[09:12] <GTroy> Ax3, use gparted
[09:12] <tehxed> Ax3: During the setup of Ubuntu, it'll ask you how much free space from a partition you want to dedicate to Ubuntu. It's very simple. (If I can do it, anyone can)
[09:12] <Ax3> the ubuntu livecd won't allow me to resize the existing vista partition
[09:12] <rsurfs> fiery_cleric: thanks anyways man i'm gonna split and work on this later, good night
[09:12] <Ax3> gparted ported to win32?
[09:12] <tehxed> Ax3: That's new..! What version are you using?
[09:12] <Ax3> feisty
[09:13] <Ax3> it wants to remove every trace of vista
[09:13] <GTroy> Ax3, you use gparted off livecd
[09:13] <Ax3> thats unacceptable
[09:13] <fiery_cleric> haha
[09:13] <Toufas> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009 thats live cd?
[09:13] <Ax3> hmmm gparted
[09:13] <GTroy> yes toufas
[09:13] <Ax3> ok well i'll try again
[09:13] <cypherdelic> Does anybody know, how to get Evolution connected to POP/SMTP via local Privoxy/Tor-server?
[09:13] <Toufas> i will try downloading this one
[09:13] <Toufas> 6.10 doesnt work on my laptop
[09:14] <tehxed> Ax3: No way can that make sense! I used Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 to make a partition from a Windows file system and it did it fine. Infact, I couldn't have done it any other way. All other ways were too long (if using Windows)
[09:14] <FriedGeek> Sweet. here goes nothing. [restarting x] 
[09:14] <GTroy> Toufas, what of drake LTS doesn't work?
[09:14] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, no luck
[09:14] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk
[09:14] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: bugger
[09:14] <tehxed> Shootfast: Any luck with my mp3 related issue? (Something about the mp3 libs?)
[09:14] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, it keeps playing that drum/bongo sound in a loop
[09:15] <Shootfast> but at least you can hear things now eh?
[09:15] <FriedGeek> Many great thank you's to all.
[09:15] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, if i could change/disable the sound, then I could get into ubuntu and use it
[09:15] <cypherdelic> Does anybody know, how to get Evolution connected to POP/SMTP via local Privoxy/Tor-server?
[09:15] <Enselic__> Does it make sense to say "the last 2:21 minutes"?
[09:15] <FriedGeek> Glorious 1280x1024 Night all. Thanks again.
[09:15] <ron__> join
[09:15] <clever[rev] > No active games! Type !uno to start a round.
[09:16] <ron__> uno
[09:16] <Madpilot> clever[rev] , are you a bot?
[09:16] <Madpilot> !uno
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uno - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <clever[rev] > try @uno for this bot
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[09:17] <Ax3> tehxed, maybe i overlooked it, it is 3am eyes are tired
[09:17] <Ax3> :(
[09:17] <tehxed> Ax3: It happens. I usually do most Ubuntu related troubleshooting this late as well.. although truth be told I don't think i'd be more effecient any other time of day than now
[09:17] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: Try killing gdm with "sudo killall KILL gdm" then login on terminal 1 (ctrl-alt-F1) then when its logged in, type sudo gdm
[09:17] <Shootfast> or sudo gdm start
[09:18] <tehxed> Shootfast: Any luck with my mp3 related issue? (Something about the mp3 libs?)
[09:18] <Ax3> tehxed, i had the disk manager in vista do a "shrink volume" looks like it did what i wanted, and yea i just don't stop a project or troubleshooting until i complete it, just part of my mentality, i solve all problems before sleep
[09:18] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, where do i type the first line?
[09:18] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, before i login?
[09:19] <Shootfast> tehxed: look into the libxine-ffmpeg
[09:19] <GTroy> later guys, hopefully 7-19-07 comes quick
[09:19] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: are you talking to us through the live cd now?
[09:19] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, i'm in xp on a dual boot
[09:19] <tehxed_> God damnit
[09:19] <tehxed_> Xchat did it again
[09:19] <Ax3> lol
[09:20] <tehxed_> brb
[09:20] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: OK, when your at the login screen, click Crtl - Alt -f1
[09:20] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: then sudo killall Kill gdm
[09:20] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: then sudo killall KILL gdm
[09:21] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, k
[09:21] <Shootfast> make sure KILL is all caps
[09:21] <Duckinthetrunk> okay
[09:21] <Duckinthetrunk> then login and type 'sudo gdm'?
[09:21] <Shootfast> then you should be logged in, and type sudo gdm start
[09:21] <Duckinthetrunk> okay
[09:21] <Duckinthetrunk> i'll give it a shot and get back to you, hopefully on linux
[09:22] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: If worst comes to worst, you can always remove the sound drivers from the command line
[09:24] <bullgard4> fiery_cleric: Your hint to the Software_build article in the Wikipedia was most fruitful. Thank you.
[09:24] <fiery_cleric> bullgard4: no problem ... wikipedia is good for tech related material
[09:26] <Cosmo_>  I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found
[09:27] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, this is so lame: it worked, but when it asked for the root password, i realized that the installer never asked me for a root pass, and thusly i can't login as root.....
[09:27] <Duckinthetrunk> sooo sad
[09:28] <tekm8> sup all
[09:28] <LordLimecat> sup :D
[09:28] <LordLimecat> for everyones amusement: http://www.hongfire.com/cg/data/25/caramelldansen.swf
[09:30] <tekm8> err, slow today?
[09:30] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, this is so lame: it worked, but when it asked for the root password, i realized that the installer never asked me for a root pass, and thusly i can't login as root.....
[09:30] <foug> my taskbar (clock and all, when i try to switch programs by clicking the button nothing happens) keeps freezing and I can't figure out why. At first I thoguht it was firefox but now it seems it is not.
[09:30] <Seveas> !sudo Duckinthetrunk
[09:30] <Seveas> !sudo | Duckinthetrunk
[09:30] <ubotu> Duckinthetrunk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:31] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: use sudo
[09:31] <Crazytom> jesus foug what have you done to your computer?
[09:31] <foug> Crazytom: nothing man I swear lol. I just installed opera 9.20
[09:31] <Seveas> !languad | Crazytom
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Seveas> !language | Crazytom
[09:31] <ubotu> Crazytom: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:31] <foug> Crazytom: and beryl, think that might have something to do with it?
[09:31] <Seveas> and no, maskin foul language dos not make it non-foul...
[09:31] <tekm8> um, what bad lingo did he use?
[09:31] <Duckinthetrunk> understood, but my user password doesn't work
[09:32] <fiery_cleric> foug: exactly when you install that opera u have no idea what it is doing
[09:32] <Duckinthetrunk> it says can't login sorry
[09:32] <foug> fiery_cleric: but why would updating opera mess things up?
[09:32] <Shootfast> what does it say?
[09:32] <Duckinthetrunk> "Login failed<br />sorry"
[09:32] <Crazytom> foug, i don't know man, your poor computer....
[09:32] <Duckinthetrunk> my notation for a ling break
[09:32] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: when it asks you to login from the command prompt are you using your name?
[09:33] <Duckinthetrunk> *line
[09:33] <Duckinthetrunk> yea
[09:33] <fiery_cleric> foug: i was just making a lame political point about non-free SW.... its probably not opera
[09:33] <Duckinthetrunk> my username
[09:33] <foug> Crazytom: nah compy is fine, hehe
[09:33] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: Is it possibly booting from the live cd instead of your hard drive?
[09:33] <Duckinthetrunk> no cd in my tray
[09:33] <Duckinthetrunk> it's gotta be hd
[09:33] <tekm8> Duckinthetrunk, sounds like you might have typed the pw wrong twice on install, or mistyped the username
[09:34] <Duckinthetrunk> *hdd
[09:34] <Duckinthetrunk> i guess
[09:34] <Duckinthetrunk> which blows
[09:34] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: lol, thats almost impossible
[09:34] <tekm8> Shootfast, nah, i've done it myself ;p
[09:34] <sorcerer22> hey guys umm stupid but i dunno how do i chenge the reoloution ?
[09:34] <bill_k> gui way or cmd line way?
[09:35] <Duckinthetrunk> here's how it goes: login->sudo killall KILL gdm, password->*******, login failed, sorry
[09:35] <Shootfast> sorcerer22: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <foug> what's the command to open a file in gedit through terminal? i'm trying gedit filename and it won't happen
[09:35] <sorcerer22> well i wanna learn both and whats more practical
[09:35] <Duckinthetrunk> if i login and try
[09:35] <Shootfast> ah
[09:35] <Duckinthetrunk> no dice
[09:35] <bill_k> system menu > preferences> screen resolution :)
[09:35] <tekm8> sorcerer22, or go to system, prefs, screen resolution
[09:35] <Duckinthetrunk> is that my downfall?
[09:35] <Shootfast> when it says login, type your username and pass
[09:35] <Crazytom> foug, gedit is a gui text editor try nano instead
[09:35] <Shootfast> then the commands
[09:35] <bill_k> or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, edit it, and restart x
[09:36] <Duckinthetrunk> i'm such a loser nube
[09:36] <bill_k> i think*
[09:36] <Shootfast> dont type the commands when it says login :P
[09:36] <foug> Crazytom: yes i know, to open a file in gedit using terminal, i've done it before, can't rmember the command tohugh
[09:36] <Shootfast> i do that all the time too!
[09:36] <bill_k> Duckinthetrunk: noob*
[09:36] <Duckinthetrunk> god damn it
[09:36] <tekm8> foug, err, sudo gedit <filenamewithpath>
[09:36] <Duckinthetrunk> i'll go try again and cry my self to sleep
[09:36] <Duckinthetrunk> thanks
[09:37] <foug> tekm8: hmm, sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf, not working
[09:37] <tekm8> foug, cuz it's sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:38] <foug> tekm8: word
[09:38] <tekm8> :)
[09:38] <Shootfast> faug: you get to remember that one pretty quick
[09:38] <bill_k> my roomate is sleeping but i really want to unbox my new monitor
[09:39] <bill_k> doh, i'll just go out in the hall, brb
[09:39] <Shootfast> wake up roomate - then unbox
[09:39] <tekm8> heh
[09:39] <bill_k> to brag
[09:39] <bill_k> sure
[09:39] <sorcerer22> thanks guys i have anothertion regarding ktorrent right now iam going pretty slow .. but it says there 2 (4) leechers and seeder : 1(2) and my download is at 3.9 can i do something to get it faster?
[09:39] <sorcerer22> or is there a general setting
[09:39] <bill_k> 2x 19" viewsonic 2ms response time lcd's :)
[09:39] <tekm8> sorcerer22, make sure your firewall (iptables and maybe router) aren't blocking ports
[09:39] <foug> tekm8: to install utorrent, will sudo apt-get install utorrent     work?
[09:40] <Peppery> uTorrent is Windows only?
[09:40] <ecgw> eww. i hate the bird on viewsonic.
[09:40] <Shootfast> sorcerer22: either yell at everone to start seeding, or get faster internet
[09:40] <tekm8> foug, uTorrent is windows proggy
[09:40] <foug> Peppery: linux equivalent for torrents then?
[09:40] <bill_k> yes
[09:40] <bill_k> azureus works well
[09:40] <Peppery> foug: Azureus
[09:40] <foug> don't really like Azureus, anything that's more of a lighter load?
[09:40] <EADG> utorrent with wine.
[09:40] <bill_k> just make sure you use the sun java, free java isn't great at network stuff
[09:40] <sorcerer22> i have a pretty fast cable connection . but .. iam new to ubuntu .. io dunno is a firewall is on ?
[09:40] <Peppery> uTorrent is the superior program, but it's for Windows only
[09:40] <Shootfast> foug: Bittornado
[09:40] <LordLimecat> Peppery: thats not entirely true :D
[09:41] <foug> Shootfast: rgr i'll try it
[09:41] <Shootfast> Bittornado GUI = best
[09:41] <LordLimecat> azureus is more powerful
[09:41] <tekm8> foug, you already have a torrent proggy auto-installed...
[09:41] <Peppery> LordLimecat: ?
[09:41] <foug> will sudo apt-get install bittornado work?
[09:41] <Shootfast> Bittornado is faster though
[09:41] <bill_k> add restricted+universe+multiverse to repositories and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:41] <sorcerer22> so is there a way ?
[09:41] <foug> tekm8: yea but it isn't working for me, heh
[09:41] <LordLimecat> more plugins, capabilities, cross platform
[09:41] <Shootfast> foug: yep
[09:41] <sorcerer22> does ubuntu have a firewal
[09:41] <Shootfast> but for the gui its sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[09:41] <bill_k> plenty of guides out there for all that stuff
[09:41] <Peppery> sorcerer22: iptables ftw.
[09:41] <sorcerer22> i mean comes standard with the os .. like windows ?
[09:41] <bill_k> search in synaptic! :)
[09:41] <fiery_cleric> sorcerer22: iptables ?
[09:41] <sorcerer22> whats that
[09:41] <tekm8> foug, ah ok...yeah, use bittornado ...i believe it's sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui ...
[09:42] <fiery_cleric> !iptables
[09:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:42] <Rat409> foug: maybe ctorrent or rtorrent,not sure
[09:42] <tekm8> ahh, already beat to it :p
[09:42] <foug> sweet, installing stuff on linux is so much easier than windows. Terminal owns. Can i pretty much use that command for any program?
[09:42] <Shootfast> sorcerer22: Firestarter
[09:42] <sorcerer22> fiery_cleric: whats iptables
[09:42] <tekm8> foug, yep
[09:42] <LordLimecat> foug: yea, a lot of em
[09:42] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, even better now
[09:42] <foug> good to hear
[09:42] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: Howd it go?
[09:43] <fiery_cleric> sorcerer22: there are many higherlevel programs to configure the firewall tho
[09:43] <sorcerer22> Shootfast: whats firestarter ?
[09:43] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, i'm still in linux, got my other system to run xchat
[09:43] <Shootfast> sorcerer22: its a firewall program
[09:43] <tekm8> sorcerer22, a iptables gui frontend
[09:43] <EADG> foug: it's good for removing and updating programs too.
[09:43] <Duckinthetrunk> it says "KILL: no process killed"
[09:43] <Duckinthetrunk> so it didn't kill gdm
[09:43] <foug> EADG: o ya? i take it the remove command is just typing uninstall instead of install?
[09:43] <joel__> LGUIEN ABLA ESPAOL
[09:43] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: um, it might be something else to kill gnome (I use KDE :P)
[09:43] <LordLimecat> firestarter seems to do more than just provide a gui, installing it instantly blocks access to all ports from outside o.0  or am i doin it wrong
[09:43] <sorcerer22> so iptables is a differnt program ?
[09:43] <LordLimecat> seems to activate iptables or somethin
[09:44] <sorcerer22> is it already tunred on in ubuntu ?
[09:44] <EADG> foug: remove instead of install, yep. Dead easy.
[09:44] <foug> EADG: nice thanks
[09:44] <Shootfast> i think firestarter is a gui for iptables
[09:44] <tekm8> LordLimecat, iptables defaults to block all inbound connections
[09:44] <joel__> HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[09:44] <freakynl> hey there how would i setup vlan's? (i know how vconfig works n stuff, more curious about the start-up scripts / ubuntu specific stuff)
[09:45] <EADG> Makes checking out new programs a snap.
[09:45] <compilerwriter> Duckinthetrunk what do you want to do with gdm
[09:45] <LordLimecat> tekm8: that may be....but i had access to VNC from outside, turned on firestarter, and all of a sudden, all connections blocked...had to make rules
[09:45] <Rat409> foug: apt-get --help ; works for most apps,commands,but not all,sometimes -h works also,but not 100% of everything
[09:45] <tekm8> LordLimecat, yeah it defaults iptables back...
[09:45] <LordLimecat> tekm8: is it possible iptables isnt on by default?
[09:45] <Shootfast> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:45] <LordLimecat> ah
[09:45] <foug> Rat409: cool, thanks
[09:45] <freedomness> HI, WHERE i can find a label (image) to customize ubuntu cd ?
[09:45] <Duckinthetrunk> compilerwriter, i'm trying to kill my sound driver cause it's crashing me at login
[09:45] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:46] <tekm8> LordLimecat, it is if you are running firestarter
[09:46] <joel__> = c
[09:46] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, *stopping gnome display manager [ok] 
[09:46] <freakynl> hey there how would i setup vlan's? (i know how vconfig works n stuff, more curious about the start-up scripts / ubuntu specific stuff)
[09:46] <compilerwriter> duckinthetrunk shootfast gave it to you.
[09:46] <Duckinthetrunk> cool\
[09:46] <Duckinthetrunk> now what
[09:47] <Duckinthetrunk> shootfast, .
[09:47] <tekm8> brb --smoke
[09:47] <Shootfast> ok, now you can try to remove the sound drivers... im just looking it up
[09:48] <delcoyote> freedomness: i found something but is .pdf and other format labels for ubuntu
[09:48] <joel__> HOOLA ALGUIEN QUE ABLE ESPAOL????????
[09:48] <Duckinthetrunk> shootfast, side note, but where do you find this stuff?
[09:48] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: what stuff?
[09:48] <hobojohn3> does anybody know of a new guide for rolling a custom distro for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:49] <Duckinthetrunk> shootfast, all of these commands, drivers, and techniques?
[09:49] <DVS01> you guys heard this? verizon is clamiming patent to the internet
[09:49] <DVS01> http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/specialguests/2007/apr/11/al_gore_can_rest_easy_verizon_claims_the_internet
[09:49] <delcoyote> joel__  /join #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <DVS01> thats nuts
[09:49] <joel__> JJ
[09:49] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: ive had most of them on my end :P
[09:49] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: and tinkering
[09:49] <Duckinthetrunk> shootfast: i can understand that
[09:49] <joel__> QUE MIERDA
[09:49] <delcoyote> freedomness: http://www.scsy.de/~mas/ubuntu-labels/
[09:50] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: As it stands, with all the tinkering i do, i format my drives almost every week
[09:50] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast: wow, i thought i was bad at once a month
[09:50] <tekm8> back
[09:50] <bill_k> hmm
[09:51] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast, i've got windows crap down to a science, now i'm trying to learn something useful
[09:51] <Rat409> lol
[09:51] <Duckinthetrunk> Shootfast: the only bad part is that my hardware is lacking
[09:51] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: A little slackware here, some Solaris there, a splash of OSX
[09:51] <bill_k> vga cable = too short :( and vga sucks, i need a vid card with 2x dvi out
[09:51] <bill_k> yumm osx
[09:51] <tekm8> bill_k, you got 2 displays, neat
[09:51] <Shootfast> Duckinthetrunk: Go here #Shootfast
[09:51] <bill_k> well, will have* if i find a cable
[09:52] <tekm8> bill_k, i get my stuff from newegg.com ....that is, if you want to wait a little bit
[09:52] <bill_k> tekm8: always order from newegg
[09:52] <tekm8> :)
[09:53] <bill_k> probably at least $10k worth of orders from there (can look through my history)
[09:53] <freakynl> how do i setup vlan's in ubuntu?
[09:53] <fiery_cleric> !vlan
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <tekm8> mine isn't that much, but somewhere around 4-5
[09:53] <freakynl> !802.1q
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 802.1q - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <hobojohn3> does anybody know of a new guide for rolling a custom distro for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:54] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: do you mean kernel?
[09:54] <hobojohn3> its for a friends comp who is worried about the xp to linux transition
[09:54] <hobojohn3> yeah
[09:54] <hobojohn3> sry
[09:54] <tuna-fish> dumb question: how can I see the number of my screen?
[09:55] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: wait, what is your goal
[09:55] <preaction> hobojohn3: fiesty has support for even intel macs, so i've been told.
[09:55] <jpjacobs> tuna-fish, echo $DISPLAY
[09:55] <LordLimecat> not to mention its awesome :D
[09:55] <tekm8> preaction, it does, check out the download page
[09:55] <tuna-fish> jpjacobs: thanks
[09:56] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat: im trying to get a custom kernel setup for his computer he uses an nvidea 6600 and other such stuff he built it himself and is learning to hate windows and there cruel hearted ways
[09:56] <preaction> hobojohn3: why do you need a custom kernel? did the live CD not boot properly?
[09:56] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: you shouldnt start a new user out with anything custom
[09:56] <LordLimecat> trust me
[09:56] <tekm8> hobojohn3, what cruel-hearted ways?
[09:56] <LordLimecat> because if anything goes wrong, he will assume linux sucks
[09:56] <LordLimecat> go with vanilla feisty, and then if he wants to custom compile, you can help him later
[09:57] <preaction> hobojohn3: seriously, the -generic kernel works for almost any hardware setup. add in proprietary video drivers (installed with Envy), and you're golden
[09:57] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat: so i offered to build him a custom kernel that has everything he needs to get started such as all the proper drivers
[09:57] <preaction> !envy | hobojohn3
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <preaction> !nvidia | hobojohn3
[09:57] <ubotu> hobojohn3: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: well, i just got done trying to build my own...it compiled, and everything works....including ping....
[09:57] <LordLimecat> except web browsint and irc
[09:57] <LordLimecat> thats NOT somethin you want to deal with on first boot
[09:57] <fiery_cleric> ping is all u need
[09:57] <tekm8> lol
[09:58] <LordLimecat> its wierd as hell
[09:58] <LordLimecat> all network traffic except ping is sent straight to dmesg
[09:58] <LordLimecat> and never reaches browser
[09:58] <hobojohn3> tekm8: pay for this then its free except for the weekly updates that are a month or two late and choose when to take over your comp and other things that made his 600 dollar compter cost him more than 1000
[09:59] <tekm8> hobojohn3, what was he having to pay for? anti-virus? if that's the case, then avg is free, and works great
[09:59] <Cosmo_>  I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[09:59] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat: did you have a guide to build it or are you just a guru?
[09:59] <ph33rz> Could someone give me a hand with install my video card drivers?
[09:59] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: windows is good because it is competition.....its also very simple for end users
[09:59] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: guru?  o.0 not at all
[09:59] <LordLimecat> i just lurk in here a lot
[09:59] <LordLimecat> and yea, i have a guide
[09:59] <LordLimecat> but again
[09:59] <LordLimecat> i have yet to get it working 100% successful
[10:00] <sorcerer22> LordLimecat: whats you trying to get working /.'
[10:00] <LordLimecat> http://howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way
[10:00] <hobojohn3> it was all sorts of things that were saying trial over you must pay to keep ruing this software
[10:00] <LordLimecat> sorcerer22: my alsa broke in the 2.6.17.11 kernel....
[10:01] <LordLimecat> its workign in .10, but i spent the weekend tryin to roll my own, since .11 was throwing "oops" errors
[10:01] <sorcerer22> oh ok umme sound driver iam a newbie  .. just mived from windows
[10:01] <tekm8> hobojohn3, that has nothing to do with microsoft, that's whatever computer manufactor that he decided to use...you can install just windows on there without all that trial crapware
[10:01] <LordLimecat> success except for networking -_-
[10:01] <sorcerer22> iam happy other os a re kicking windows ass
[10:01] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: that crapware makes the pc cheaper
[10:02] <LordLimecat> just use the restore disk to reinstall @ arrival
[10:02] <LordLimecat> standard op @ clients
[10:02] <LordLimecat> or use pc de-crapifier, designed for dells :D
[10:02] <hobojohn3> tekm8: he built it himself and was using all this stuff that he thought was free that turned out to only be "trial" also known as a rip off once testing is over
[10:02] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: then reinstall, and use proper freeware
[10:02] <tekm8> hobojohn3, i see, well, again, use freeware apps, not shareware apps
[10:02] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat: thats what i told him
[10:02] <LordLimecat> dont blame microsoft for things that arent their fault, they DO do bad things, but lets keep it all in proportion
[10:02] <fiery_cleric> hobojohn3: did hey buy windows separately?
[10:03] <LordLimecat> microsoft=/=devil
[10:03] <LordLimecat> cough PIRATEBAY.ORG cough
[10:03] <hobojohn3> fiery_cleric: he thought he did
[10:03] <Rat409> lol
[10:03] <ph33rz> blah this blows
[10:04] <ph33rz> i cant get my drivers working
[10:04] <sorcerer22> windows still makes things soo much easier coz other stuff upports their os more .. i hate that part of teh deal
[10:04] <LordLimecat> ph33rz: which ones?
[10:04] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[10:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:04] <ph33rz> Nvidia
[10:04] <LordLimecat> sorcerer22: yea, but thatll change soon, look @ firefox :D
[10:04] <tekm8> sorcerer22, i agree, and is why i still use windows and only install windows on customer boxes, unless specified not to.
[10:04] <LordLimecat> opensource+=win
[10:05] <Doxa> Hi, I don't know if I'm in the right room
 can I get the 333 or 400 ram into  motherboard that supports 266? </offtopic>
[10:05] <LordLimecat> !nvidia | ph33rz
[10:05] <ubotu> ph33rz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <Doxa> I was trying to create a Ubuntu boot installation from my USB stick
[10:05] <tekm8> sorcerer22, i use linux to tinker, and to watch the development
[10:05] <fiery_cleric> yeah open source + windows makes a nice system
[10:05] <Doxa> and I accidently created a partition on a external hard drive I have
[10:05] <Shootfast> ph33rz: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:05] <sorcerer22> see thas that bad part iam a infomatiion systems major and i dont think i will be geting int unix or linux big time or even use it
[10:05] <LordLimecat> seriously, windows does have some nice stuff
[10:05] <sorcerer22> i hate windows
[10:05] <LordLimecat> ie, vibestreamer
[10:05] <Doxa> Now I suspect I may have lost all my data.....
[10:06] <LordLimecat> and guildftp
[10:06] <cy_`> moin
[10:06] <ShappaShaz> evening
[10:06] <hobojohn3> k new question does anyone know of a really good list of windows to linux equivelants?
[10:06] <LordLimecat> also, that loveable paperclip
[10:06] <cy_`> is there a release date for the Feisty final ?
[10:06] <ShappaShaz> die you fracking paperclip!
[10:06] <ph33rz> How do i find out what bus id my graphic card is hooked up too and its on pci express do i have to change ne thing for that ?
[10:06] <LordLimecat> cy_`: yes...2 days :D
[10:06] <ardchoille> Please take the Windows chat to #windows.
[10:06] <tekm8> hobojohn3, what software are you trying to replace?
[10:06] <bill_k> lspci
[10:06] <cy_`> ok, thanks LordLimecat
[10:06] <LordLimecat> :D
[10:06] <LordLimecat> theres a #windows?  my mind boggles
[10:06] <sorcerer22> will unix ever be like microsoft .. i mean .. like public people will be useing more it would come with .. dell computer and what not
[10:06] <fiery_cleric> google it u will find heaps of them
[10:07] <LordLimecat> wow o.0
[10:07] <hobojohn3> tekm8: you name it he wants an equivelant
[10:07] <LordLimecat> there IS!
[10:07] <bill_k> ph33rz: lspci maybe
[10:07] <bill_k> or the gui device manager
[10:07] <tekm8> sorcerer22, maybe, depending on the user demand
[10:07] <Doxa> Where can I get help on recovering data from an external harddrive?
[10:07] <ShappaShaz> you can always open synaptic and type a keyword matching the program you want
[10:07] <tekm8> hobojohn3, well, what does he use the comp for?
[10:07] <LordLimecat> sorcerer22: er.....you DO know that dell ships with linux, probably in 2 days (IMO, they just say soon)
[10:07] <LordLimecat> IM betting they start when feisty ships :D
[10:08] <sorcerer22> LordLimecat: i mean lilke.. more commercials about it go mainstream collegstudent pormoting and markting that way
[10:08] <preaction> Dell had that survey last month, i wonder if Ubuntu won
[10:08] <Rat409> Doxa: you might want to try a specialty rescue llive-cd or try using synaptic and install gpart==gyess partition tables,not foolproof,but good,maybe 99% iirc
[10:08] <LordLimecat> sorcerer22: you mean like...dude, yer getting dellinux!
[10:08] <LordLimecat> i hope not :D
[10:08] <sorcerer22> lol
[10:08] <sorcerer22> lol
[10:08] <sorcerer22> lol
[10:08] <LordLimecat> cause i hate that guy
[10:08] <tekm8> Hobbsee, i would need a list of what he does on the comp, and i could prolly find some software equivalant for linux
[10:08] <hobojohn3> tekm8: gamedev, music editing, gaming, school,
[10:08] <sorcerer22> i mean what ever ..
[10:09] <sorcerer22> like lnuc be the new frontier not windows
[10:09] <sorcerer22> linux
[10:09] <hobojohn3> i was just wondering if there is a good consolidated list
[10:09] <tekm8> hobojohn3, haha, well, gaming is out of the question (if he is a big gamer)
[10:09] <LordLimecat> im not an expert...but personally, i see ubuntu becoming the new firefox--known and respected by all
[10:09] <LordLimecat> ie, MS will haev to recognize it
[10:09] <hobojohn3> wine is a godsend for him
[10:10] <preaction> LordLimecat: they already recognize it as a threat, internal memos were leaked
[10:10] <balor> Anyone know how to get subversion to replace $Rev:$ in documents with a revision number?
[10:10] <tekm8> hobojohn3, for school, openoffice should suffice...what type of music editing are you talking about?
[10:10] <LordLimecat> preaction: ive seen those, and personally, i DO wonder which ones are real/...beware of photoshops :)
[10:10] <LordLimecat> especialyl on digg
[10:10] <hobojohn3> fruityloops would be veeeeeeeeeery nice or something very close to it
[10:10] <Keyseir> I'm having a problem with my entire video cutting out while running WoW under wine on edgy.
[10:10] <sorcerer22> microsoft always uses .. other people technology or just study and then invest big and build on idead thats already been built on
[10:10] <preaction> LordLimecat: this was years ago, but it doesn't matter
[10:11] <hobojohn3> with the button pusiong for the beat
[10:11] <LordLimecat> regardless, by recognize, i mean they will have reason to make their bootloader see grub, or read ext3
[10:11] <Keyseir> Screen goes black suddenly, sound keeps playing, monitor says it's receiving no signal.
[10:11] <hobojohn3> rosegarden isnt good enoguh
[10:11] <hobojohn3> and smartftp
[10:11] <hobojohn3> is also very neede
[10:11] <tekm8> hobojohn3, good luck trying to replace fruityloops ....i wouldn't know on that one...i'll do a google search though
[10:11] <Keyseir> I'm wondering if I'm having a software issue or if my vidcard is having issues.
[10:12] <hobojohn3> rosegarden and one that is made for osx arent close enough
[10:12] <hobojohn3> he also uses audacity alot wich comes preinstalled
[10:12] <tekm8> hobojohn3, maybe multimedia studio?
[10:12] <persen> Hi, does linux has the ability to create a VPN with a XP box?
[10:13] <bill_k> my roomate and I don't get along well, I would never unbox a monitor at 3am otherwise
[10:13] <hobojohn3> tekm8?whats that?
[10:13] <fiery_cleric> persen: sure does
[10:13] <LordLimecat> persen: i was unaware that xp could be a VPN server?
[10:13] <fiery_cleric> persen: using openvpn on both ends
[10:13] <persen> maybe its not XP, its windows at least :/
[10:13] <bill_k> yup xp can do almost anything with vmware server and linux installed :)
[10:13] <tekm8> hobojohn3, http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[10:13] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:13] <persen> I dont control the windows side.
[10:14] <chemaja> bill_k, just very slowly
[10:14] <LordLimecat> ...why wouldnt you just use a WRT54g/compatible+ddwrt
[10:14] <LordLimecat> :D
[10:14] <chemaja> is anyone familiar with Centrino Pro?
[10:14] <chemaja> im thinking of waiting for this to release before buying a laptop
[10:14] <chemaja> apparently only a couple months away
[10:14] <persen> so i should use openvpn then?
[10:14] <chemaja> or less
[10:14] <chemaja> persen, it sucks
[10:15] <chemaja> persen, sorry pptp sucks... i guess openvpn is ok :)
[10:15] <LordLimecat> anyone in here gotten a wiimote workin on ubuntu?
[10:15] <Keyseir> Is anyone here familiar with Wine, WoW, and video card issues?
[10:15] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: possibly, i use all of those
[10:15] <LordLimecat> especially a video card
[10:15] <chemaja> lol
[10:15] <Keyseir> LordLimecat:  I'm having a problem with my entire video cutting out while running WoW under wine on ubuntu edgy.
[10:16] <Keyseir> LordLimecat: Screen goes black suddenly, sound keeps playing, monitor says it's receiving no signal.
[10:16] <LordLimecat> does the whole comp lock up for like 5 seconds at a time?
[10:16] <hobojohn3> is there a good text to speech synth effect
[10:16] <LordLimecat> oph
[10:16] <LordLimecat> no, i havent had THAT....
[10:16] <LordLimecat> but ive had comp lockups
[10:16] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, So far I have not had this happen when WoW is not running
[10:16] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, And it has happened repeatedly.
[10:16] <LordLimecat> my suggestion.,...
[10:16] <LordLimecat> run WoW from terminal
[10:16] <LordLimecat> aoss wine 'path to wow.exe'
[10:17] <LordLimecat> itll show you any errors/messages in terminal
[10:17] <Keyseir> aoss?
[10:17] <tekm8> hobojohn3, festival
[10:17] <fiery_cleric> !info festival
[10:17] <LordLimecat> yea...make sure you have alsa-oss as well
[10:17] <LordLimecat> or else sound will be...messed up
[10:17] <LordLimecat> long story
[10:17] <LordLimecat> -_-
[10:17] <Keyseir> I wondered why sound wouldn't work.
[10:17] <ubotu> festival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-17.1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 710 kB, installed size 2120 kB
[10:17] <fiery_cleric> slow...
[10:17] <wrodrigues> exit
[10:17] <LordLimecat> yea....heres the nutshell version
[10:17] <wrodrigues> ?
[10:17] <Keyseir> I definitely get errors with WoW running, and I don't know what they mean. I hadn't had issues for a week or two since i started playing
[10:18] <LordLimecat> the sound driver that WoW can handle on linux is OSS< which is older....and OSS can only handle 1 program generating sounds @ once on it
[10:18] <LordLimecat> alsa is newer, and isnt limited...but WoW wont work with alsa
[10:18] <Keyseir> Hmmm
[10:18] <Keyseir> I see.
[10:18] <LordLimecat> aoss runs oss thru alsa
[10:18] <Keyseir> I also have an issue with WoW locking up the computer  at startup.
[10:18] <LordLimecat> so its sort of like fake oss
[10:18] <fiery_cleric> alsa supports software mixing ... oss doesnt .... but some hardware can do the mixing it self
[10:19] <Keyseir> This is what happens... I start wow from terminal, it starts loading, whiel the window is kinda greeny and now loaded it sometimes freezes
[10:19] <Keyseir> every window/moving thing on the screen freezes
[10:19] <Keyseir> But I can still move my cursar. What does that mean?
[10:19] <LordLimecat> ....i would run it from terminal
[10:19] <LordLimecat> so you can see errors...
[10:19] <Keyseir> I am running it from terminal, and i don't know what the errors mean. Could you take a lot at the errors for me?
[10:20] <LordLimecat> did you do any tweaks to get it to run properly?
[10:20] <Keyseir> *look
[10:20] <Keyseir> Ah no, could you give me a link to tweaks I should work on?
[10:20] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: i sort of just guess what they mean, i dotn want to mislead you
[10:20] <LordLimecat> :D
[10:20] <LordLimecat> alright, one sec
[10:20] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, I think any advice you might give me would be a step in the right direction.
[10:20] <LucidFox> hdparm doesn't show the DMA flag for my SATA HDD - should I assume it's on or off?
[10:20] <LordLimecat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:20] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, I appreciate your assistance so far.
[10:20] <LordLimecat> youve done most of the steps (ie, getting wow, and wine)
[10:20] <bill_k> anyone here good at installing video drivers? just followed the binarydriverhowto and crashed X (won't restart)
[10:21] <LordLimecat> start with configuration :D
[10:21] <fiery_cleric> vesa ?
[10:21] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, ok
[10:22] <hobojohn3> does anyone know of a bug where ubuntu doesnt show some of the things i have installed and if so wheere do they go?
[10:22] <hobojohn3> i just installed some programs i want to work with
[10:22] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: not all things show in menu
[10:22] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, Heh, I got errors with winecfg.
[10:22] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, Pastbining.
[10:22] <LordLimecat> alrighty :D
[10:23] <A_I_> hi
[10:23] <LordLimecat> hobojohn3: you know about tab completion, right
[10:23] <bill_k> hobojohn3: not all things you apt-get will show under the programs menu
[10:23] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat: where do i find it then if its not under applications?
[10:23] <LordLimecat> what did you install?
[10:23] <fiery_cleric> hobojohn3: yeah do dpkg -L <packagename> to find out what files a package installed
[10:23] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16087/
[10:23] <bill_k> it really depends on the program
[10:23] <hobojohn3> lordlimecat nope
[10:23] <A_I_> I've just update from edgy to feisty
[10:23] <LordLimecat> if you type the first few letters, then press tab, itll complete the command for you
[10:23] <bill_k> aah cool
[10:23] <A_I_> and I've some problems with apache ldap auth
[10:23] <LordLimecat> so if you installed command "foobar"
[10:23] <LordLimecat> you could type "foo" and hit tab'
[10:23] <LordLimecat> i pretty much use that to see what i installed o.0
[10:23] <A_I_> where is the module auth_ldap.load ???
[10:24] <bill_k> and ls
[10:24] <bill_k> or the gui manager
[10:24] <hobojohn3> lmms and festival
[10:24] <bill_k> can anyone help with a binarydriver?
[10:24] <bill_k> video
[10:24] <LordLimecat> try typing in festival in terminal
[10:24] <LordLimecat> or festival[doubletab] 
[10:25] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, I'm getting errors with that kde thing while running a lot of programs, doesn't look like I own the directory or something..
[10:25] <LordLimecat> oh!
[10:25] <LordLimecat> you should use sudo then
[10:25] <LordLimecat> are you familiar with sudo?
[10:25] <Caplain> how do   onvert spaces in a file to %20 ?
[10:25] <Keyseir> Yes, I'm not that big of a noob
[10:25] <LordLimecat> lol, k
[10:25] <Keyseir> I don't know why I don't own the .kde directory though
[10:25] <LordLimecat> try sudo winecfg (although...dont remember needing that)
[10:25] <LordLimecat> you could chmod it o.0
[10:26] <LordLimecat> to take control
[10:26] <Keyseir> Yar.
[10:26] <LordLimecat> explaination?
[10:26] <Keyseir> recursively chown ing it work?
[10:26] <LordLimecat> thatll work too o.0
[10:26] <Toufas> still, ubuntu live cd same error as the other version
[10:26] <Toufas> black screen doing nothing
[10:26] <LordLimecat> never tried that/didnt know that command
[10:26] <LordLimecat> o.0
[10:26] <fiery_cleric> Caplain: in filename or contents of file
[10:27] <Doxa> I need some one-on-one help
[10:27] <Caplain> fiery_cleric, contents
[10:27] <Doxa> Can anyone help me?
[10:27] <tekm8> hobojohn3, you can also add those in the menu selection by going to system, preferences, menu layout and then typing in the terminal command that you use to start the app
[10:27] <Caplain> Doxa, whats the issue?
[10:27] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, alright, i'm still getting errors. winecfg starts up, but when I click the audio tab errors pop up.
[10:27] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, It switched to the tab this time, but errors
[10:27] <hobojohn3> is there a gui for festival?
[10:27] <fiery_cleric> Caplain: do u just want space to %20 ... or do want to url encode the contents?
[10:28] <LordLimecat> omg, tekm8, thats really cool
[10:28] <Caplain> space convert to %20
[10:28] <LordLimecat> no more manual creation of .desktops for me!
[10:28] <LordLimecat> :D!
[10:28] <Keyseir> LordLimecat,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16088/
[10:28] <tekm8> LordLimecat, :)
[10:28] <VirhYl3> Hi, can I ask Feisty Questions in here yet?
[10:28] <VirhYl3> I just need to create a Launcher for a Wine app.
[10:28] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" is also an error I get when running wow under wine.
[10:29] <LordLimecat> VirhYl3: you could, but ubuntu+1 may be more helpful
[10:29] <LordLimecat> and ppl may yell at you here
[10:29] <LordLimecat> for being off topic, i mean
[10:29] <LordLimecat> i promise i wont
[10:29] <fiery_cleric> Caplain: sed -i 's/ /%20/g' myfilewithspaces
[10:29] <Toufas> just burned ubuntu on a disc (live cd version), booted, select the option to install, got the loading screen, then screen goes black, i hear some music playing and then no disk activity and nothing on screen
[10:29] <VirhYl3> That's why I asked.  But maybe creating a Launcher is the same process?
[10:29] <Caplain> fiery_cleric, thanks
[10:29] <Doxa> Caplain? Did you get my message?
[10:30] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: is alsa installed?
[10:30] <pavs> i tried ubuntu+1 many time i almost never got any help there. there are not enough people and nobody really answers.
[10:30] <LordLimecat> ima have to go soon....
[10:30] <tekm8> hobojohn3, here ya go http://sourceforge.net/projects/carnival/
[10:30] <tekm8> hobojohn3, that's a gui for it
[10:30] <LordLimecat> but you want to make sure you have alsa installed, and aoss too
[10:30] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> what's the file with the list of repositories? :o
[10:30] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, Yes.
[10:30] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> http://rafb.net/p/fyJNNu59.html <=- think i may have messed up a little
[10:30] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> but i can't remember where the file is ><
[10:31] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, What about the libgl warnings? Driver issues?
[10:31] <LordLimecat> /etc/apt/sources.lst
[10:31] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> thx o/
[10:31] <LordLimecat> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: also, theres a cache you can delete somewhere that sometimes fixes that
[10:31] <LordLimecat> i forget where it is, but someone may know, i think its somewhere in /usr
[10:31] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> there's a lot of stuff in /usr lol
[10:31] <LordLimecat> i kno :(
[10:32] <green_> well i solved my mplayer issues with playing streamlink
[10:32] <LordLimecat> but theres a lot less than ther is in /
[10:32] <LordLimecat> so its a start
[10:32] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i'll just try my luck at editing the sources.list :p
[10:32] <LordLimecat> if it doesnt work, its the cache
[10:32] <LordLimecat> i had that issue
[10:32] <deepsa> hi
[10:32] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> yeh, and i got a friend that i can bug about it later if this doesn't work
[10:32] <deepsa> when is 7.04 coming guys?
[10:32] <deepsa> any ideas
[10:32] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> the 19th
[10:32] <deepsa> is it finalized?
[10:33] <deepsa> at what time on 19th guys?
[10:33] <hobojohn3> is therre a very detailed voice synthesizer for linux yet?
[10:33] <stefg> Toufas: probably the supported refresh rate of your monitor is detected wrong, so it goes out of sync. Wasn't there a 'safe graphics' option at the bott menu?
[10:33] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> actually, i don't know what time o_O
[10:33] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i'm just waitin' for the 20th anyway to see if the forum fills up with bug reports :p
[10:33] <deepsa> oh i can't wait no longer.
[10:33] <Doxa> Can anyone help me with recovering data from an external hard drive?
[10:33] <Doxa> I created some partition issue
[10:33] <stefg> !testdisk | doxa
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <Doxa> I'm not sure exactly what, but I dont' want to do anything else until I know exactly what it is i'm doing
[10:33] <deepsa> !ubuntu fiesty
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <deepsa> !7.04
[10:34] <stefg> !info testdisk | doxa
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7.04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <ubotu> doxa: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[10:34] <deepsa> !fiesty
[10:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:34] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> !schedule
[10:34] <deepsa> hanged?
[10:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:34] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> :x
[10:34] <pavs> deepsa just upgrade to fiesty from update manager, the current version and the released version wont be much differant if any AAIK
[10:34] <pavs> AFAIK
[10:34] <Doxa> thanks
[10:35] <deepsa> you mean to say the beta?
[10:35] <deepsa> or the release candidate?
[10:35] <deepsa> pavs
[10:35] <pavs> release candidate
[10:35] <LordLimecat> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: WOOT found it
[10:35] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> :o
[10:35] <tekm8> hobojohn3, fala is another gui that's for gnome
[10:35] <LordLimecat> /var/cache/apt
[10:35] <deepsa> pavs k
[10:35] <pavs> i have been using it for more than a week now. no problems whatsoever.
[10:36] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> archives  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[10:36] <pavs> if there is any changes it automatically gets updated
[10:36] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ??
[10:36] <LordLimecat> yea, im 99% positive its the archives folder
[10:36] <LordLimecat> back it up, and try moving it
[10:36] <LordLimecat> then do sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <LordLimecat> it should take longer than normal, and regenerate the cache
[10:36] <sciboy> I hope you're proud of yourselves. =/
[10:36] <VirhYl3> Yeah, Feisty is great.  It's released on Thurs, so you may as well get used to Feisty stuff in here now, no?
[10:36] <LordLimecat> if it breaks, restore the backup
[10:36] <LordLimecat> not POSITIVE, but pretty sure thats the place
[10:37] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> how do i rename again?
[10:37] <age6racer> hey all, how do I extract the contents from a .rpm file?
[10:37] <hobojohn3> i want one that i can change it to other voices and all kinds of things to add effects to it and such
[10:37] <LordLimecat> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: you move the file :)
[10:37] <LordLimecat> mv
[10:37] <LordLimecat> mv archives archiveold
[10:37] <nrgy> age6racer, install the rpm deb and then use fileroller to open and extract
[10:37] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> thx o/
[10:38] <green_> age6racer use alien
[10:38] <nrgy> or use alien either or
[10:38] <pavs> biggest improvement over edgy IMO is speed. just runs smooth AFA GUI is concerned. Finally something faster than fedora.
[10:38] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[10:38] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, Did a tweak with regedit, gonna start us up and check the errors
[10:38] <tekm8> hobojohn3, take a look here: http://linux-sound.org/speech.html
[10:38] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> was worth a shot :x
[10:38] <nrgy> only prob ive had since updating today is compileing openexr caused an app that uses openexr to barf
[10:38] <green_> i just find it easier to convert .rpm's to .deb's
[10:38] <nrgy> i had to use gcc 3.4 to compile it
[10:39] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: theres also an xorg.conf tweak
[10:39] <LordLimecat> sleep in 5 mins >_<
[10:39] <Keyseir> LordLimecat, Link? and couldn't find package "aoss"
[10:39] <alesdoc> SO: Edgy Package: mplayer and Rhythmbox: Mplayer works fine untill i play a song with rhythmbox. After that mplayer works, but it cannot play full-screen video. If i want to wacht a file in full-screen mode i've to close rhythmbox. Have it ot report a bug or is it just a error of my pc?
[10:39] <Doxa> how do I run testdisk?
[10:40] <Keyseir> !aoss
[10:40] <Doxa> i've installed it
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <berent> !zope
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <berent> !zopedev
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zopedev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <berent> !plone
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <Doxa> !testdisk
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <tekm8> Keyseir, are you looking for info on oss
[10:40] <tekm8> !oss
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <berent> !plone-zope
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plone-zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <pavs> obuto knows nothing...
[10:41] <Doxa> how do I run testdisk?
[10:41] <stefg> Quick poll: I have an external 160 GB USB-drive, which i need to access from Ubuntu and /that other OS/. i try to avoid Fat32 for fragmentation and 4GB size limit. Shall i use ntfs and ntfs-3g or go ext2 and use the ext2 fsd for /that other OS/ ?
[10:41] <green_> ubotu do u know 3D chess?
[10:41] <stefg> Doxa: man testdisk
[10:42] <berent> green ubotu knows everything just pm
[10:42] <Keyseir> LordLimecat,  You leave?
[10:42] <LordLimecat> about to :(
[10:42] <Keyseir> Anybody else familiar with WoW, Wine and Video Cards?
[10:42] <Keyseir> =D
[10:42] <LordLimecat> i needs sleep :(
[10:42] <green_> i was making a joke
[10:42] <green_> lol
[10:43] <Keyseir> I just got mucho errors after that first tweak
[10:43] <sciboy> Keyseir, Depends on the vintage.
[10:43] <Keyseir> Wine wow crash
[10:43] <LordLimecat> do you have nvidia drivers?
[10:43] <Keyseir> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16090/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16091/
[10:43] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> LordLimecat, thanks for the help o/
[10:43] <LordLimecat> {uX}l`VampyrCeil: that work?
[10:43] <Keyseir> I.. Don't know..
[10:43] <Keyseir> I have a radeon
[10:43] <Jaikkanen> does anyone know a terminal command that can give me the model name of my soundcard?
[10:43] <OrTigaS> hi! i accidentally remove the Places,Application,System in the panel, how can i add it again?
[10:43] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: then i hope you dont have nvidia o.0
[10:43] <LordLimecat> i THINK youre supposed to get aiglx
[10:43] <sciboy> Jaikkanen, Um, maybe lspci?
[10:43] <LordLimecat> dunno tho :(
[10:43] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> renaming the cache broke it, but you told me where sources.list is :p
[10:44] <LordLimecat> but yoiu need drivers, probably
[10:44] <Toufas> guys i cant acces any gui when i am trying to install
[10:44] <LordLimecat> thats why
[10:44] <Toufas> i pressed ctrl alt f2
[10:44] <Toufas> and got the cmd prompt
[10:44] <mneptok> Toufas: try the alternate CD
[10:44] <Jaikkanen> sciboy: thanks alot
[10:44] <Toufas> i burned both cds
[10:44] <Dani> does ubuntu have an ide like kdevelop in kde
[10:45] <Toufas>  Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008   Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009
[10:45] <Toufas> both
[10:45] <tekm8> night all, i'm tired.
[10:45] <Toufas> same thing
[10:45] <foug> where do installed programs go? i'm trying to find where vlc is
[10:45] <LordLimecat> dani: im gonna guess you can install kdevelop and KDE....
[10:45] <mneptok> Dani: you could use KDevelop ;)
[10:45] <OrTigaS> w00t w00t
[10:45] <tekm8> foug, in applications, sound & video
[10:45] <OrTigaS>  hi! i accidentally remove the Places,Application,System in the panel, how can i add it again?
[10:45] <sciboy> Shit can't remember the name of the gnome ide. =/
[10:45] <foug> tekm8: no the folder directory
[10:45] <LordLimecat> argh sleep time!
[10:45] <mneptok> sciboy: please watch the language
[10:45] <foug> tekm8: telling opera to open files with vlc
[10:45] <Dani> mneptop so i can use kdevelop to write programs for ubuntu and kubuntu i mean they would work in x and gnome
[10:46] <mneptok> Dani: of course
[10:46] <tekm8> foug, ...just a sec
[10:46] <LordLimecat> dani: the simplest solutions are usualyl the best :D
[10:46] <wijnand> until how long after the release of feisty will there be updates to edgy?
[10:46] <kippi> hey
[10:46] <LordLimecat> wijnand: i THINK thru 2008
[10:46] <green_> i want a 3 teragig hd
[10:46] <kippi> I am trying to umount a samaba share and keep on getting umount: /smb: device is busy how can I remove this?
[10:47] <wijnand> LordLimecat: sounds long enough to me :)
[10:47] <LordLimecat> tera,,,gig?
[10:47] <Dani> mneptok thx i am noob and instead of buying vista i want to invest the time and money (books)  in ubunut
[10:47] <LordLimecat> o.0
[10:47] <LordLimecat> is that like a kilomeg?
[10:47] <Dani> *ubuntu
[10:47] <LordLimecat> but bigger?
[10:47] <tekm8> foug, in /usr/lib/vlc/codec
[10:47] <green_> yeah 3,000 gigs
[10:47] <Toufas> damn i cant do anything :/
[10:47] <mneptok> Dani: you can use any KDE app with GNOME and vice versa
[10:47] <foug> tekm8: thanks
[10:47] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:47] <tekm8> np...night
[10:47] <OrTigaS> nevermind my question :)
[10:47] <LordLimecat> green_: i think you mean terrabyte'
[10:47] <pavs> when you use sudo with password how long does the terminal save the session till it prompts for password again when using sudo?
[10:47] <LordLimecat> not terragig :D
[10:48] <mneptok> pavs: 300 seconds
[10:48] <green_> well so i forgot the extra r
[10:48] <green_> rrrr
[10:48] <LordLimecat> green_:
[10:48] <LordLimecat> no, you said terragig, not terraBYTE
[10:48] <Ferrixman> hi everybody
[10:48] <LordLimecat> a gig is not a unit of measurement
[10:48] <Ferrixman> can i ask for help here??
[10:48] <LordLimecat> its a prefix :)
[10:48] <pavs> mneptok tnx, anyway to increase the time?
[10:48] <mneptok> LordLimecat: i thinkk *you* mean "terabyte" and not "terrabyte"  :P
[10:48] <LordLimecat> !ask | Ferrixman
[10:48] <ubotu> Ferrixman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:48] <LordLimecat> mneptok: its 4am, gimme a break -_-
[10:48] <Ferrixman> i've many...
[10:48] <green_> i dont think i could fill it
[10:49] <mneptok> LordLimecat: just like you gave green_?  ;)
[10:49] <eck> mneptok: are you sure? the man page says 15 minutes
[10:49] <LordLimecat> :( leave me be :(
[10:49] <Keyseir> I would appreciate it if someone familiar with wine could review these error logs, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16090/, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16091/. Did tweak #1 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft and now it's even worse.
[10:49] <pavs> lorlimecat where is it 4am?
[10:49] <Toufas> so there isnt a cmd from the cmd prompt that would start the installation?
[10:49] <LordLimecat> eastern coast USA
[10:49] <Ferrixman> i'm new to ubuntu... and to linux in general...
[10:50] <mneptok> eck: last i knew it had been iterated down. that may have changed.
[10:50] <pavs> 5am here in ny
[10:50] <Ferrixman> so... first: i have problems connecting to my wifi ap
[10:50] <mneptok> Toufas: try the alternate CD
[10:50] <Toufas>  Ubuntu 6.10 - Supported to 2008   Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009
[10:50] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i can't figure out what to remove, so can someone help me please? >< http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16092/
[10:50] <mneptok> Toufas: a different release version is not the alternate CD
[10:50] <Toufas> ok
[10:50] <Toufas> where do i get that?
[10:50] <mneptok> Toufas: any download mirror
[10:51] <Ferrixman> i configured my AP with WEP ascii key
[10:51] <Ferrixman> but now i can't figure out how to connect to it
[10:51] <pavs> mneptok anyway to increase the time for sudo command?
[10:51] <eck> Ferrixman: i would try connecting using the hex key just in case
[10:51] <Crazytom> Ferrixman, sudo iwconfig eth1 key yourkeyhere
[10:51] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i'm only seein' edgy-updates on there twice, once for 'deb' and once for 'deb-src'... how is it a duplicate entry? ;x
[10:51] <Keyseir> No Wine gurus awake?
[10:51] <LordLimecat> Keyseir: try #winehq :)
[10:51] <pavs> linksys sucks
[10:52] <Toufas> mirrors have only one download link
[10:52] <eck> pavs: it is in the man page, it is an option in the sudoers file
[10:52] <LordLimecat> pavs: not the wrt54g early models :D
[10:53] <Ferrixman> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :             invalid argument "supercalifrag".
[10:53] <ia2> Can anyone give some direction/advice regarding SCIM?
[10:53] <pavs> lordlimecat you mean the one with the open firware? yeah that sucks too. it just brciked the other that. so did my belkin now I am proud owner of netgear. :)
[10:53] <Dani> how many here use vmplayer and virtualbox i find virtual box extremely slow
[10:53] <LordLimecat> pavs: you may wanna try the Asus WL-500gP :)
[10:53] <johnt> I am trying a map editor in the game widelands any one know how I can get the hq (default building) to be included
[10:53] <LordLimecat> its unbrickable
[10:54] <mneptok> USR8200 FTW :)
[10:54] <Crazytom> Ferrixman, your wep key should probably be a number or hexidecimal
[10:54] <LordLimecat> whats that, mneptok
[10:54] <Ferrixman> can i pm you to get help, please?
[10:54] <eck> Ferrixman: if you use an ascii key with iwconfig the format is key s:you_key
[10:54] <green_> i'm having fun playing with beryl
[10:54] <ia2> SCIM? anyone...
[10:54] <eck> Ferrixman: e.g. iwconfig eth1 essid foo key s:bar
[10:54] <pavs> lordlimecat you mean the one with the open firware? yeah that sucks too. it just brciked the other that. so did my belkin now I am proud owner of netgear. :)
[10:54] <mneptok> LordLimecat: US Robotics 8200 VPN router
[10:55] <LordLimecat> heh, this asus one was like $100...but has built in usb ports--2 of em'
[10:55] <LordLimecat> default firmware can mount webcams, printers, and massstorage
[10:55] <eck> Ferrixman: although i recommend you just use network manager
[10:55] <LordLimecat> its also crazy fast, and can recover from anythin
[10:55] <LordLimecat> 32 megs ram, 266mhz processor :D
[10:56] <pavs> psss
[10:56] <Ferrixman> i'd like to use network manager
[10:56] <johnt> I am trying a map editor in the game widelands any one know how I can get the hq (default building) to be included
[10:56] <LordLimecat> it ever gets bricked, you hit the recovery button and run the program, itll connect to the router and restore firmware
[10:56] <eck> Ferrixman: install network-manager-gnome and then restart your gnome session
[10:56] <LordLimecat> had to do it like 4-5 times after bad flashes
[10:56] <LordLimecat> swapped between firmwares like 20 times
[10:58] <pavs> lordlimecat i have tried resetting/pinging during powerup/shorting ping15-16 on the chip nothing worked i was using the version 5
[10:58] <johnt> no one to help me with widelands then????
[10:58] <LordLimecat> im talking about the asus wl-500gp
[10:58] <LordLimecat> has a restore button
[10:59] <pavs> sorry i thought you were talking about linksys
[10:59] <Ferrixman> i installed it via application -> add/remove
[10:59] <Ferrixman> gonna restart my system and see how it is working
[10:59] <LordLimecat> no, linksys arent really reliable
 hi Bruce
[11:00] <LordLimecat> check out the asus one :)
[11:00] <pavs> i am using netgear, awesome speed. fastest sofar. belkin used to freeze up a lot.
[11:01] <yigal> i am using a crappy belkin but its great
[11:01] <yigal> r u foke using wpa?
[11:01] <pavs> belkin is better than linksys anyday.
[11:01] <johnt> <zcat[1] > did you get the ram I dropped round today?
[11:01] <bcochofel> I'm trying to autofs my usbdrive but even with the --timeout option it doesn't get umount. What's the problem with autofs with ubuntu 6.10?
[11:01] <LordLimecat> eh....
[11:01] <yigal> pavs: i like linksys
[11:02] <LordLimecat> gnight all :D
[11:02] <kippi> I am trying to umount a samaba share and keep on getting umount: /smb: device is busy how can I remove this?
[11:02] <yigal> LL: gn
[11:02] <yigal> kippi: you are not in the directory, no process?
[11:03] <bcochofel> kippi: to umount you can't be using the drive
[11:03] <pavs> yigal i guess i just had horrible experience with linksys, more than once. on top of that their customer service sucked big time. I guess I am just being winy
[11:03] <yigal> kippi: in any way
[11:03] <kippi> there samaba shares that did not connect
[11:03] <kippi> can I just delete them from /etc/mtab
[11:04] <yigal> pavs: I like messing with wireless routers until either I break or it breaks or we are happy :)
[11:04] <yigal> pavs: I meant dongles
[11:04] <pavs> :)
[11:04] <johnt> I am trying a map editor in the game widelands any one know how I can get the hq (default building) to be included
[11:05] <yigal> pavs: do you have linksys router - the open source 1?
[11:05] <felixhummel> I want to scan for local WLANs from bash - what tool do I need? I tried kismet a while ago, but it's meant for sniffing, not for connecting...
[11:05] <pavs> yigal yes i do. its bricked. so i threw it somewhere in my basment :)
[11:05] <yigal> felixhummel: wireless-tools has everything
[11:06] <yigal> pavs: lol
[11:06] <pavs> its good for nothing yigal
[11:06] <johnt> Thanks anyway BYE!!!!!
[11:07] <felixhummel> yigal, well I use iwconfig for configuration, but how do I get a list of Essids?
[11:07] <yigal> pavs: I am sorry to hear :( I had so much hope I wanted to wpa2 with all sorts of other nice stuff and its open source
[11:07] <green_> broken keyboards fly good after u cut off the cord
[11:07] <bcochofel> Under ubuntu I'm getting a lot of Buffer I/O error on device sdbN, logical block messages. What's the problem?
[11:08] <yigal> felixhummel: I am sorry its been a very long time and I didn't take notes, but I know you can - I know this doesn't count for much.
[11:09] <yigal> felixhummel: iwlist scan
[11:09] <felixhummel> yigal, thanks, I'll try
[11:10] <yigal> felixhummel: the format is : iwlist "device" scan
[11:11] <amias> lo all
[11:11] <felixhummel> yigal, yes, but it did not work, though iwconfig works :/
[11:11] <felixhummel> i dont get it
[11:11] <yigal> felixhummel: you might have to tweak it to get all networks to be sean
[11:11] <BluRay> hello.. where to set dns server in ubuntu?
[11:11] <BluRay> i've added default gateway to my router and setup ip adresses, but don't know how to setup dns servers
[11:11] <amias> anyone got any idea why the update-manager packages aren't signed , looks dodgy to me
[11:12] <pavs> iwlist scan will scan with the default connected device, done have to specify device (me thinks)
[11:12] <yigal> felixhummel: ok, what is your device? rausb0
[11:12] <felixhummel> yigal, eth1
[11:12] <felixhummel> yigal, thanks very much
[11:12] <yigal> felixhummel: so "iwscan eth1" scan gives nothing?
[11:12] <felixhummel> it's working
[11:12] <felixhummel> it does
[11:13] <felixhummel> though last time i tried it didn't
[11:13] <felixhummel> mhm
[11:13] <Doxa> So I know I've already asked this question a few times in this room... but I really need someone to help me with something one-on-one for just a few minutes
[11:13] <felixhummel> mom pls
[11:13] <wo0lverine> hello
[11:13] <Doxa> A lot of people being really helpful suggesting stuff, but I'm newbie and half the time don't really understand what's being talked about
[11:13] <mneptok> Doxa: purchase a support contract and i'll talk to you for as long as you'd like ;)
[11:14] <yigal> felixhummel: I think that is the way to go.  I am serious, if you have the $.
[11:14] <Ferrixman> wow... now it works!
[11:14] <felixhummel> yigal, i thought maybe when already connected, it does not work, but it just works perfectly. thank you again :)
[11:14] <yigal> felixhummel: Awesome
[11:14] <Ferrixman> what about changing to WPA?
[11:14] <felixhummel> yigal, what do you mean by "if you have the $"?
[11:14] <Doxa> At this rate... that's what i'm going to end up having to do....
[11:15] <yigal> felixhummel: now I go to bed
[11:15] <VSpike> How can I find out which installed packages have come from a given repository?
[11:15] <pavs> mneptok works for canonical?
[11:15] <RamCia> witka
[11:15] <mneptok> VSpike: apt-cache show $packagename
[11:15] <VSpike> And if I remove a repo from the sources list, will apt(itude) (auto)remove the packages from that repo?
[11:15] <mneptok> no
[11:15] <imon9> hello
[11:15] <foug> my video lags when i try to go full screen, any ideas?
[11:16] <Doxa> can someone help me?
[11:16] <imon9> i need some help on ubuntu about my sound card
[11:16] <Doxa> it really shouldn't be for that long
[11:16] <felixhummel> foug, graphics driver
[11:16] <imon9> Doca, waht is the matter?
[11:16] <pavs> doxa just ask your question here noone will help you one on one
[11:16] <VSpike> mneptok: Is it possible to list packages for a specific repo?  I think your command will show me which repo a given package comes from.
[11:16] <Doxa> imon9, i'll contact you now one-on-one
[11:16] <foug> felixhummel: they are installed, and dma=on
[11:16] <pavs> lol
[11:16] <imon9> i want to know how to use speaker-test command with spesific wavfile please
[11:16] <Ferrixman> can anyone help me to vary the frequency of cpu on a laptop in order to increase battery life?
[11:17] <Doxa> imon9 did you get my message
[11:17] <felixhummel> Ferrixman, manually? i think automatic control is activated by default
[11:17] <mneptok> VSpike: with multiple thousands of available packages, that's not practical
[11:17] <Ferrixman> i'd like to do it manually, yes
[11:18] <imon9> no doxa, just type it here
[11:18] <Doxa> basically
[11:18] <imon9> type it here so that anyone else who see ur problem can comment too
[11:18] <Doxa> I tried to create an ubuntu install of a USB stick
[11:18] <Doxa> and I did what the ubuntu documentation said about it
[11:18] <VSpike> mneptok: I'm talking about installed packages specifically
[11:18] <felixhummel> Ferrixman, sorry - no idea (google, help.ubuntu.com/community, ubuntuforums)
[11:18] <Doxa> which didn't work
[11:18] <Doxa> and then i realized
[11:18] <imon9> did ur bios support boot using USB?
[11:19] <Doxa> yes, but that's not the issue
[11:19] <mneptok> !enter > Doxa
[11:19] <foug> anyone know why my video lags when I try to go full screen? I've installed my drivers as far as i know (beryl is running) dma=on if that helps at all, I never had this problem in windows.
[11:19] <Doxa> basically
[11:19] <Ferrixman> ok... other question: how can i connect to a wifi AP protected with WPA instead of simple WEP?
[11:19] <felixhummel> mneptok, what does your "!enter" command do?
[11:19] <Doxa> my external hard drive was still connected, and what I did was accidentally create a partition on my external drive
[11:20] <felixhummel> Ferrixman, wpa_supplicant
[11:20] <felixhummel> read the docs
[11:20] <Doxa> now I have a partition on that drive that's only 16 mb in size (it's a 250gb drive) and none of my files
[11:20] <Doxa> I want to bring the drive back to how it was
[11:20] <Doxa> I need to know a) how to recover my data b) how to get the partitions back to how they were
[11:20] <mneptok> Doxa: the data is gone.
[11:20] <imon9> ic
[11:20] <sammi> I am having trouble with my pop3 thunderbird
[11:20] <mneptok> Doxa: partitioning is a destructive process
[11:21] <imon9> u may be able to get back some data back with test-drive
[11:21] <Doxa> right, so I installed testdrive cause someone mentioned that
[11:21] <Doxa> but how do I use it?
[11:21] <Doxa> The manual wasn't very helpful
[11:21] <imon9> well ...can u hold on a sec...i will give u 2 link
[11:21] <Doxa> I really need an almost step-by-step guide... I'm really new with this
[11:22] <Doxa> mneptok, are you sure there's absolutely no way to recover that data?
[11:22] <imon9> yah..please hold one a second...i will be back with u doxa
[11:22] <sciboy> Hey guys, nvidia ain't working for me.
[11:22] <MasterGH> hi, could someone help me get my sound working again? I'm using Edgy
[11:22] <foug> MasterGH: make sure it isn't muted
[11:22] <mneptok> Doxa: it is not a trivial task
[11:23] <Doxa> I know... but it's extremely important.
[11:23] <MasterGH> foug: its not muted
[11:23] <sciboy> I'm using Feisty with the 2.6.20 kernel and included restricted module.
[11:23] <foug> MasterGH: you've opened alsa mixer and double checked? MM = muted, make sure all channels are unmute
[11:23] <imon9> there is 2 way to get back your data Doxa: but first you must create a partition  for the rest of your drive
[11:23] <MasterGH> foug: I'll look again
[11:23] <Doxa> imon9: couldn't that erase everything?
[11:23] <foug> anyone know why my video lags when I try to go full screen? I've installed my drivers as far as i know (beryl is running) dma=on if that helps at all, I never had this problem in windows.
[11:24] <Doxa> imon9: i mean, won't that ruin any chance of recoverY?
[11:24] <afd_> hi! I'm having problem with the time on my computer. I'm living in Eastern Europe (+2 GMT) and I have selected the timezone and have automatically update the time from the internet. The problem is that it doesn't do day-light savings, and the time is one hour early. What can I do to fix it?
[11:24] <Ferrixman> does wpa_supplicant have a graphic interface?
[11:24] <imon9> what you did already erase the "file structure" or your harddrive
[11:24] <scotthammy> Hi, Do you know where a change list for version 6.10 to 7.04 beta?
[11:24] <sciboy> Pretty much it's just going cannot initialise device, and when i go to /proc/driver/nvidia/card/0 it has no idea what the video bios is
[11:24] <felixhummel> Doxa, no - partitions are written to the beginning of an HD
[11:24] <MasterGH> foug: how do I make sure they are all un-muted? a command I can do?
[11:24] <imon9> so your system are not able to find them coz they dont have a reference to where the file ares...but your physiscal data is still there in your drive
[11:24] <foug> MasterGH: press M
[11:25] <Doxa> I'm not sure what exactly i did. I cut and pasted the command from the ubuntu website
[11:25] <MasterGH> foug: ahh ok
[11:25] <sciboy> Now considering the 6.06 live cd had no issues i'm having a hard time figuring out what changed between that and my new installation
[11:25] <bo2> hi everyone, I'm looking for an 'apple' like application starter - any hints
[11:25] <Doxa> noticed it didn't have an affect on my usb stick (obviously) and only then noticed that it created a new partition on my external hd
[11:25] <MasterGH> foug: hmm still not working
[11:25] <foug> MasterGH:  out of ideas then, hehe. Has it ever worked?
[11:26] <felixhummel> bo2, katapult of kde (i dont know the apple starter)
[11:26] <MasterGH> foug: it's worked for weeks lol
[11:26] <MasterGH> foug: stopped working only tonite
[11:26] <Doxa> imon9?
[11:26] <foug> MasterGH: and it just stopped? hmm, no idea there. That happened to me but mine was accidently muted
[11:26] <felixhummel> MasterGH, check the cables
[11:26] <imon9> what you have to do now is to create a partition for the rest of the drive so that the test-drive can identify it
[11:26] <MasterGH> foug: its working in windows :/
[11:26] <imon9> btw, are u using ubuntu now or XP?
[11:27] <Doxa> ubuntu
[11:27] <bo2> felixhummel, thanks... currently I'm using xfce (but previously I'm pure gnome)... thanks for the pointer.
[11:27] <foug> MasterGH: reinstall linux, lol
[11:27] <MasterGH> foug: lol
[11:27] -nick85454:#ubuntu- asd
[11:27] <Doxa> imon9: ok. how do I create that partition?
[11:27] <sciboy> =(
[11:27] <scotthammy> 6.10 to 7.04 beta change/fix list location?
[11:27] <DVS01> fgh
[11:27] <MasterGH> foug: hmm I did accidentally leave some changed in the gdm conf file that I had to remove cause it couldn't start
[11:28] <felixhummel> bo2, what exactly do you want?
[11:28] <MasterGH> foug: I also removed some old python files
[11:28] <foug> MasterGH:  all that is beyond my knowledge
[11:28] <MasterGH> foug: not much else
[11:28] <imon9> ok..if u have ubuntu, then use gparted
[11:28] -nick85454:#ubuntu- im total lama
[11:28] <MasterGH> foug: lol ok, thanks anyway
[11:28] <imon9> Doxa; are u using XP or Ubuntu currently?
[11:28] <MasterGH> foug: I guess I'll ask on the forums
[11:28] <Doxa> imon9:
[11:29] <imon9> if ur system is XP, there is better way
[11:29] <Doxa> imon9: ubuntu
[11:29] <foug> MasterGH: try that, i think i might do the same with my video problem
[11:29] <foug> anyone know why my video lags when I try to go full screen? I've installed my drivers as far as i know (beryl is running) dma=on if that helps at all, I never had this problem in windows.
[11:29] <Doxa> I can use an Xp system on a different computer
[11:29] <felixhummel> bo2, maybe xbindkeys can help you too (bind any command  to a key-combination) - so win+f opens my firefox...
[11:29] <imon9> ok then....first, go download a gparted live CD and create a partition for the rest of your drive
[11:29] <imon9> then download "undelete-plus"
[11:30] <imon9> from there on, you could recover your harddrive data with "undelete-plus"
[11:30] <Doxa> imon9: are you 100% sure that's the way to go?
[11:30] <imon9> basically undelete-plus is XP application and it works slightly better than test-drive coz it retain the filename
[11:31] <imon9> yes, i am sure coz i have done it before
[11:31] <Doxa> and it is free?
[11:31] <Doxa> doesn't gparted only work on linux though?
[11:31] <imon9> yes, undelete-plus is freeware. anyway, this is what i want to tell u: if u use test drive, your data will all be scattered
[11:32] <imon9> and test-drive is mainly good to get back your photos and some zip file where-else all document file will be corrupted but still readable.
[11:32] <Doxa> and it will recover all this data to the external drive, or to my internal hard drive?
[11:32] <imon9> to your internal drive please
[11:32] <imon9> u will need a big empty space for recovering the data
[11:32] <Doxa> imon9: is there anyway to get it to recover to the external drive itself?
[11:33] <imon9> no way
[11:33] <Doxa> what about to a different external drive?
[11:33] <imon9> let me explain why
[11:33] <imon9> yes, u can do it to another external drive
[11:33] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[11:33] <imon9> just not the same drive since the process of writing to the same drive will permenantly erase all physical data
[11:34] <imon9> so are u clear now?
[11:34] <Doxa> imon9: yes, but let me try and make sure I understand everything
[11:34] <Doxa> imon9: So first I need to get gparted and create another partition on the external hard drive. (I'm hoping this is self-explanatory...)
[11:34] <imon9> yes
[11:34] <Doxa> imon9: then I go use undelete-plus on an XP system and that will recover all my files
[11:34] <kadakas> how to i open a terminal in Ubuntu's welcome screen (the one where you can log in) ?
[11:34] -nick85454:#ubuntu- #############################################################################################################################################################
[11:34] <amias> what versions of update manager are people using ?
[11:35] <imon9> yes
[11:35] <Doxa> Ok. Thank you very very very much.
[11:35] <imon9> do u need the link to undelete plus?
[11:35] <nick85454> hello
[11:35] <Doxa> Sure
[11:35] <amias> kadakas,  Ctrl+Alt+F1
[11:35] <mneptok> nick85454: please stop that
[11:35] <kadakas> thank you!
[11:35] <imon9> it is at http://www.undelete-plus.com/
[11:36] <imon9> oh one more thing Doxa
[11:36] <nick85454> mneptok im very joke
[11:36] <Doxa> yes?
[11:36] <imon9> IF undelete plus is not able to recover your data for any reason, use test-drive for last resort
[11:36] <mneptok> nick85454: jokes are funny. that wasn't.
[11:36] <amias> kadakas, then Ctrl+Alt+F7 or F8 to get back again
[11:36] <imon9> do u need to know about test-drive?
[11:36] <Doxa> Ok. I still don't really understand how to use test-drive
[11:36] <wo0lverine> re
[11:37] <Doxa> Yeah, but I guess I can ask that once undelete-plus doesn't work
[11:37] <imon9> will, you can use test drive in XP environtment too
[11:37] <Doxa> Ok good
[11:37] <moDumass> hey all, how would i specify my keyboard and mouse type, i have a 'microsoft wireless mouse 2"
[11:37] <Doxa> Is there any way though I can make sure before I do all this that my hd doesn't already have the neccesary partitions?
[11:38] <imon9> first download the .zip file and extract it to the external harddrive to which u are going to use as the second external to get back the data from your lost-drive
[11:38] <imon9> i am not sure what you mean by that
[11:38] <P3nnywise> Where do i enter my WEP key?
[11:39] <Doxa> How do I make sure that my screwed up drive doesn't already have the second paritition I need to make?
[11:39] <Doxa> I'm just scared that I'll use gparted and make the situation worse
[11:39] <felixhummel> moDumass, dmesg | grep -i microsoft
[11:39] <mneptok> P3nnywise: /etc/network/interfaces
[11:39] <felixhummel> moDumass, or type dmesg | less and search by hand
[11:40] <imon9> well, if u have a Xp system, plug it in and see in "my computer"
[11:40] <DjViper> is 7.04 still on for thursday? or has the date changed?
[11:40] <felixhummel> P3nnywise, either like mneptok said (and then sudo ifup YOURADAPTER) or use iwconfig
[11:40] <Doxa> imon9: ok. again, thank you very much.
[11:41] <imon9> welcome....
[11:41] <jochus> is there a way to put the option ":syn on" in vi automaticly on?
[11:41] <jochus> now, I have to type it every time I start up vi
[11:41] <UberPsyX> hi need help with ut2004demo it quits after splash screen
[11:41] <imon9> ok now, anyone who can tell me how to use the alsa speaker-test command to run with specified "wav" files?
[11:42] <moDumass> felixhummel that told me what type of mouse i have, how do i get it to rotate the cube, like there is no middle button but if you press down on the wheel it clicks
[11:42] <moDumass> so in essence there is
[11:42] <Doxa> imon9: just one more question
[11:42] <Doxa> Should I create the new partition with gparted on ubuntu and then take my drive to my xp computer
[11:42] <Doxa> or should I do it all from the xp?
[11:42] <Doxa> or does it not make a difference?
[11:42] <imon9> yes, u can
[11:43] <felixhummel> moDumass, pressing both mouse buttons at the same time emulates a middle click (everything else is beyond my expertise)
[11:43] <imon9> i dont think is a good idea to do it with xp
[11:43] <imon9> use ubuntu gparted/ gparted live CD just to be safe
[11:43] <amias> imon9: press ALT+F2 for the run box , click run in terminal and enter it in there followed by a path to a wav file
[11:43] <imon9> amias: just a path?
[11:43] <imon9> coz i tried, but it doen't run
[11:43] <amias> imon9, oh hang on , i'll try the other end of the stick
[11:44] <UberPsyX> hi need help with ut2004demo it quits after splash screen
[11:44] <UberPsyX> hi need help with ut2004demo it quits after splash screen
[11:44] <imon9> say, i have the wave file in /home/usr/ filename is silent.wav
[11:44] <Doxa> imon9: One last noob question
[11:44] <Doxa> How do I run gparted? :-p
[11:44] <moDumass> felixhummel, thanks
[11:44] <amias> imon9, i don't have alsa-speaker-test in fiesty
[11:44] <imon9> err...well, install it from synaptic first
[11:44] <DjViper> is 7.04 still on for thursday? or has the date changed?
[11:44] <Dr_PsY> hi
[11:44] <Doxa> right, but after that
[11:45] <imon9> amias: the command is simply speaker-test
[11:45] <moDumass> hey all, how do i get my top and bottom tabs to rotate with the cube, currently they just sit on the top and bottom of the screen
[11:45] <Dr_PsY> someone knows if the incoming 7.04 will be the stable version with support like the dapper 6.06 ?
[11:45] <imon9> amias: i mention alsa, coz it is an alsa utility
[11:45] <Dr_PsY> or will be a RC like 6.04 ?
[11:45] <amias> imon9, speaker-test --help
[11:45] <imon9> i tried...but doesnt help
[11:45] <amias> imon9, it told me that -w wavfile will do it
[11:46] <imon9> amis; i type this : speaker-test -W /home/user -w silent.wav
[11:46] <imon9> amias: i tried speaker-test -w silent.wav too
[11:46] <Doxa> once installed, how do i run gparted?
[11:46] <imon9> but no help
[11:46] <amias> try running 'strace -e open speaker-test' to list all the files it opens as it runs
[11:46] <imon9> u could try if u want, it just give the normal white-noise speaker-test sound
[11:48] <amias> imon9, or you could try it with -w /full/path/to/wavfile
[11:48] <imon9> Doxa: choose it from the programs group or Alt-F2 gparted
[11:48] <imon9> amias: i tired
[11:49] <amias> imon9, get some sleep then
[11:49] <Doxa> ok, thanks
[11:49] <imon9> hahaha
[11:49] <foug> i think i might have a solution to my video problem. I think I need a certain codec for .avi files. I played an .ogm in fullscreen and it seemed to run better
[11:50] <imon9> amias: actually i need to do the speaker-test coz my soundcard is making this annoying hissing, but if i run speaker-test and any sound start playing, then the hissing is all gone
[11:50] <marcin_ant> hi all
[11:50] <amias> imon9, laptop or desktop
[11:50] <marcin_ant> how can I assign more than one IP address (static) to single network interface?
[11:50] <HYPOCRISY> ok
[11:50] <imon9> amias: so i thought of running speaker-test with a silent wav file on startup and it should fix my problem
[11:50] <amias> marcin_ant, vlans , eth0:foo
[11:51] <Ferrixman> felixhummel, sorry to disturb you again
[11:51] <felixhummel> np
[11:51] <imon9> amias; laptop with realtek AC 97
[11:51] <felixhummel> what is it
[11:51] <Ferrixman> i've tried to use wpa_supplicant
[11:51] <Ferrixman> i've configured wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:51] <amias> imon9,  i bet it won't make the noise if its not plugged in to the mains
[11:51] <marcin_ant> amias, I did it as in interfaces example but it didn't want to work :(
[11:51] <imon9> amias: it is known problem, but i found the sound works nicely after i had speaker-test and a sound file played simultaneosly
[11:51] <Ferrixman> it seems to be connected, then, but i can't surf
[11:52] <marcin_ant> amias, any more detailed info?
[11:52] <DVS01> which i/o scheduler is best to use in the following scenario: copying large file between 2 partitions on one drive, trying to load a program from that same drive at the same time
[11:52] <imon9> amias: i dont understat what is "not plugged into mains?"
[11:52] <Doxa> imon9: I need your help again... :-/
[11:52] <mneptok> Ferrixman: what does ifconfig tell you about the interface?
[11:52] <amias> marcin_ant, what are you trying to achieve
[11:52] <Mr_Pennywise> felixhummel, i was just here and asked where to enter WEP key, but then i lost connection. but i saw that you said something about iwconfig
[11:52] <Doxa> I'm running GParted now
[11:52] <imon9> Doxa; yes?
[11:52] <Ferrixman> ifconfig???
[11:52] <amias> imon9, my laptop does that when the battery is charging , tried it on headphones ?
[11:52] <imon9> Doxa: and what about gparted that u not sure of?
[11:52] <Ferrixman> mmm... wait
[11:53] <Doxa> basically it says /dev/sda1   that the size is 232.88 gb
[11:53] <Doxa> and then it has "unallocated"
[11:53] <imon9> amias: yes, i use it on headphone all the time
[11:53] <felixhummel> Mr_Pennywise, yes. man iwconfig
[11:53] <Doxa> 2.31 mb
[11:53] <marcin_ant> amias, I got dsl with 5 static ip available, and I need to configure dns server on some machine, and it has to listen on two different ip addresses
[11:53] <Ferrixman> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:02:07:39:EC
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           RX packets:1647 errors:18 dropped:207 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           RX bytes:667886 (652.2 KiB)  TX bytes:125935 (122.9 KiB)
[11:53] <Ferrixman>           Interrupt:177 Base address:0xc000 Memory:8a000000-8a000fff
[11:53] <Nocturno> If anyone has set up a VPN server with Ubuntu, please msg me!!!
[11:53] <Doxa> It seems the existing partition includes most of the drive...
[11:53] <marcin_ant> amias, I need to have ns.someserver on one ip and ns2 on different ip
[11:53] <imon9> hold on doca, that is your computer harddrive
[11:54] <Doxa> What exactly is it I'm supposed to do regarding the creating of the partition
[11:54] <Doxa> no no
[11:54] <Doxa> it's my external
[11:54] <Doxa> my computer drive is much smaller
[11:54] <imon9> doxa: can u explain what did u see in gparted again?
[11:54] <Doxa> my internal drive is /dev/hda
[11:54] <Doxa> yeah
[11:54] <Doxa> I see a list that includes two items.
[11:55] <Mr_Pennywise> felixhummel: im pretty new to this, exactly what would i have to write?
[11:55] <amias> marcin_ant, ahh , so you want to build a router ? NAT with forwarding rules is probably safer
[11:55] <Nocturno> If anyone has set up a VPN server with Ubuntu, please msg me!!!
[11:55] <Ferrixman> ok... after running wpa_supplicant, i have eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:02:07:39:EC
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           inet6 addr: fe80::213:2ff:fe07:39ec/64 Scope:Link
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           RX packets:23 errors:18 dropped:250 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           RX bytes:668980 (653.3 KiB)  TX bytes:127267 (124.2 KiB)
[11:55] <Ferrixman>           Interrupt:177 Base address:0xc000 Memory:8a000000-8a000fff
[11:55] <marcin_ant> amias, no I need to build server it also can work as router
[11:55] <Ferrixman> it seems i have no ip address
[11:55] <Doxa> 1) /dev/sda1   then a lock symbol, then a green box that says "fat 16", the mountpoint (/media/Ubuntu Inst"    size (232.88gb)   used (232.88gb)          unused (7.93mb)      flags (lba)
[11:56] <Doxa> and then the second item in the list says
[11:56] <marcin_ant> amias, but it has to use two public IP to serve dns1 on one and dns2 on another
[11:56] <amias> imon9, you might want to try a different scheduler frequency
[11:56] <imon9> doxa: at the /dev/sda "unloacated part is 232.88GB rite?
[11:56] <Doxa> no
[11:56] <imon9> amias: can u tell me how to do that?
[11:56] <Doxa> unallocated is 2.31 mb
[11:57] <Ferrixman> mneptok, can you help me?
[11:57] <imon9> doxa: so u have a parition of 232.GB then
[11:57] <amias> marcin_ant, that won't make sense if you want a primary and secondary DNS , they should be on seperate networks
[11:57] <chytraeus> when running aptitude i get the following output which i don't know how to fix: "E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the clamd package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[11:57] <Doxa> yes
[11:57] <felixhummel> Mr_Pennywise, sudo iwconfig $ADAPTER essid "$AP-NAME" key restricted $WEPKEY mode managed ap any power on
[11:57] <imon9> i think u can just plug it into XP and see if your file still there (most probably not)
[11:57] <Doxa> Already did. they aren't.
[11:57] <imon9> doaxa: if it is not, then run "undelete-plus"
[11:57] <Doxa> ok
[11:57] <marcin_ant> amias, I know but I don't have secondary dns on different machine
[11:58] <Doxa> so no need to make any more partitions
[11:58] <Nocturno> If anyone has set up a VPN server with Ubuntu, please msg me!!!
[11:58] <Doxa> just leave as is?
[11:58] <imon9> i think for now, u can leave it as it
[11:58] <marcin_ant> amias, so I need to set dns1 and dns2 on the same network *.*.*.154 and *.*.*.155
[11:58] <Doxa> ok. so I'll go try run undelete plus
[11:58] <felixhummel> Mr_Pennywise, example (my line): sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "BeigNet" channel 6 key restricted ABCDEF1234567890ABCDEF01234567 mode managed ap any power on
[11:58] <Doxa> thank you again
[11:58] <mrigns> is there a way to set rhythmbox' cache. it keeps scattering listening to radiostreams
[11:58] <imon9> doxa: thought it is funny the drive is on FAT16, usually need to be on FAT32 or NTFS
[11:59] <Ferrixman> noone can help me???
[11:59] <amias> marcin_ant, so these are two seperate DNS servers that will not be in primary secondary relationship ?
[11:59] <imon9> doxa: if undelete dont do it on FAT16, change it to FAT32, or NTFS as it was before, ok?
[11:59] <imon9> amias: any advice on the frequencyon speaker-test thing?
[11:59] <marcin_ant> amias, they will
[12:00] <marcin_ant> amias, I need to register domain name
[12:00] <WorkBond> hm, which package do I need to get libfish.so installed on my system?
[12:00] <marcin_ant> amias, and I need to provide ns and ns2 to registrar
[12:00] <WorkBond> (to use irssi-fish)
[12:00] <Nocturno> If anyone has set up a VPN server with Ubuntu, please msg me!!!
[12:00] <marcin_ant> amias, I got ns but I don't have ns2
[12:01] <mg> nocturno, nobody will message you if you have a problem then just post it
[12:01] <adriaticator> !twinview
[12:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:01] <adriaticator> !dualhead
[12:01] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:02] <Nocturno> i have a problem with poptop vpn server. I can connect to the VPN, but not get onto the internal network after connecting
[12:02] <tarelerulz> any of you try to view something in the djvu format?
[12:02] <amias> marcin_ant, the whole point of having multiple dns servers is to keep serving if the 1st nameserver goes down , if it does then the second gets used , if its on the same network as the first it probably wont be working either
[12:02] <chytraeus> when running aptitude i get the following output which i don't know how to fix: "E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the clamd package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[12:02] <marcin_ant> amias, I know that
[12:02] <amias> marcin_ant,  the secondary must be on a different connecton if you use it , otherwise set ns1 and ns2 to be the same
[12:03] <imon9> doxa: any luck?
[12:03] <marcin_ant> amias, but I still need to do this... and it should be available to set... (I hope so)
[12:03] <heag> Hello :D
[12:03] <marcin_ant> amias, propably tomorrow I will have secondary dns on some other network/machine but today I need to resolve this problem
[12:03] <orbin> WorkBond: what's asking for it?
[12:04] <amias> marcin_ant, its pointless , the dns updates will take at least a day
[12:04] <mg> nocturno, what do you mean with you can't get into? sure the vpn uses the right subnet mask and stuff?
[12:04] <Nocturno> well, i cant ping or rdesktop after connecting to the vpn
[12:04] <marcin_ant> amias, I need to have this on tomorrow on 8:00
[12:05] <marcin_ant> amias, and then I will have a lot of time to find/configure secondary dns when I will have some time
[12:05] <amias> marcin_ant, best thing to do would be to concentrate your efforts on finding out what the ip of the secondary will be
[12:05] <amias> marcin_ant, or just set ns2 to be the same as ns1
[12:06] <shukhrat> how to change group in file
[12:06] <mg> nocturno, what type of connection do you use? an ethernet over vpn bridge or an ip over vpn bridge?
[12:06] <Nocturno> mg, am i suppose to specify subnet settings in the VPN assigned IP's ?
[12:06] <tarelerulz> I install djvu-viewer that is on synaptic and it all ways crash and I am trying to install it from source ,but it will not see qt lib and one ?
[12:06] <Nocturno> mg: I connect to VPN over IP
[12:06] <shukhrat> how to change group in file ?
[12:06] <amias> shukhrat, sudo chgrp groupname file
[12:07] <shukhrat> amias: thanks
[12:07] <marcin_ant> amias, hmm I need to try if registrar will accept this
[12:08] <mg> nocturno, as far as i know you have to set up a bridge which connects your vpn to your local network on the machine with which you connect vice vpn
[12:08] <longcat> help, i just installed ubuntu, and i cant remember the username i used
[12:09] <longcat> i logged in as root in recovery mode
[12:09] <longcat> is there a way to see the username i created from there?
[12:09] <Ferrixman> please, help me... i configured wpa_supplicant, but i can't connect anyway!!
[12:09] <fluvvell> longcat, grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[12:09] <sipior> longcat: check in /home
[12:09] <amias> longcat,  ls /home
[12:09] <shukhrat> !Apache2
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <shukhrat> !LAMP
[12:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:09] <longcat> it says oem in blue
[12:09] <longcat> thats it?
[12:09] <amias> imon9, tried this for you sound prob ? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_high_pitch_noises
[12:09] <longcat> i dont think i would put oem as a username :S
[12:10] <longcat> let me try to login
[12:10] <Nocturno> mg: i thought thats what you configure the ppptpd.conf file for
[12:10] <fluvvell> longcat, you have to mount your drive
[12:10] <amias> Nocturno, do the firewalls at both ends allow forwarding of the correct ports to setup the VPN connection ?
[12:11] <longcat> oem login worked :S
[12:11] <Nocturno> amias: Yes, and the vpn connection gets established
[12:12] <amias> Nocturno, do you have the right routing setup to forward your packets of the vpn ( and back again at the other end) ?
[12:13] <Ferrixman> how do i let wpa_supplicant pass DHCP???
[12:13] <Nocturno> yeah, outgoing traffic is open, and incoming is routed to the VPN server
[12:14] <amias> Nocturno, open ?
[12:14] <Nocturno> as in, all outbound traffic is allowed
[12:15] <amias> Nocturno, allowed to go over the vpn or the default route ?
[12:15] <lz> Hello Everyone
[12:15] <chytraeus> when i run synaptic, i get the following error E: The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[12:15] <amias> lz: hello
[12:15] <amias> was it something i said ?
[12:16] <Nocturno> amais : nothing outgoing is blocked, and the default route etc is set up
[12:16] <amias> Nocturno: the encrypted traffic should go out of the default route after its gone through the vpn
[12:16] <amias> Nocturno, which encrypts it
[12:17] <Nocturno> amias: now i lost you mate
[12:18] <chytraeus> anyone know how i can fix synaptic when it doesn't list any packages?
[12:18] <Dybber> Hi, i've installed feisty fawn on my pc but the sound is played on the wrong soundcard (the onboard), but the device set in Sound-settings is my Audigy soundcard. Is this a bug or did i change soundcard in the wrong place?
[12:18] <sipior> chytraeus: and reloading the source list doesn't help?
[12:19] <chytraeus> no. did you see my other post above about the error message i am getting?
[12:19] <amias> Nocturno, is it your single machine joining a network at the other end or is it a network to network link ?
[12:19] <sipior> chytraeus: i did not
[12:19] <chytraeus>  when i run synaptic, i get the following error E: The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[12:19] <Doxa> imon9:  I'm back again.... for another question regarding undelete-plus
[12:19] <Nocturno> a single machine(windows based), vpn to a network(also windows based except for the VPN server and smoothwall firewall
[12:20] <amias> chytraeus, have a look in /var/cache/apt/archives for and clamd files , delete them and try again
[12:20] <sipior> chytraeus: try running "sudo apt-get update" from the terminal
[12:20] <Woody_> people, yesterday i installed nvidia-glx and the next time i booted i came into a black screen with the sounds of drums. someone gave me the commands to fix it back to "nv" instead of "nvidia". today i installed the other nvidia driver (legacy) and the same thing happened now. I forgot the commands that i used yesterday to change it back to "nv", i am on Live CD right now. Can anyone please help me get into my xorg.conf to edit it? thanks
[12:20] <Ferrixman> please... help me...
[12:20] <sipior> chytraeus: but synaptic shows no packages at all?
[12:20] <chytraeus> none.
[12:20] <Doxa> imon9: are you still here?
[12:21] <amias> Woody_,  are you sure its trying to display from the correct head of your graphics card ?
[12:21] <Ferrixman> i need to connect via wireless....
[12:21] <sipior> chytraeus: and apt-get update shows the same?
[12:22] <chytraeus> it shows the following: E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the clamd package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[12:22] <Woody_> amias: what do you mean?
[12:22] <amias> Nocturno, smoothwall should supply support for this
[12:22] <Woody_> amias: please rephrase your question
[12:22] <chytraeus> and i am root btw
[12:22] <Gretl> chytraeus: its part of the klamav antivirus packet
[12:23] <Doxa> Can anyone help me with a small question regarding partitions/disk recovery? (imon9 answered most of them, but I see he's not answering now)
[12:23] <amias> Woody_, it was an answer , lots of nvidia cards have multiple display connections for more than one monitor , laptops do this for the external monitor connection
[12:23] <Nocturno> amias: the VPN is not on smoothwall, smoothwall forwards the traffic no problems. The connection from the VPN macchine to the network isnt working for VPN clients
[12:23] <sipior> chytraeus: might try apt-get -f, and see what it suggests
[12:23] <amias> Woody_, can you plug a monitor in to the other head
[12:23] <amias> Nocturno, i can't help you sort out a windows machine
[12:23] <Ferrixman> it's nice to see that nobody helps me... thank you
[12:24] <sipior> Ferrixman: any time, man
[12:24] <amias> Ferrixman, what is then
[12:24] <Ferrixman> i'm trying to use my wifi connection at home
[12:24] <Nocturno> amias: :) its not the windows machine thats the problem, its the VPN machine routing VPN clients to the internal network that not working
[12:24] <Woody_> amias: which head?
[12:24] <dobblego> I just turned TwinView on my nvidia card and now the Applications/Places/System menu is in the centre of the toolbar - how do I put it back on the left?
[12:24] <Doxa> Can anyone help me with a small question regarding partitions/disk recovery? (imon9 answered most of them, but I see he's not answering now)
[12:24] <amias> Woody_, the one you are not using at the moment
[12:24] <Woody_> amias: i dont have another screen right now to connect it
[12:25] <Ferrixman> and i can't connect... i tried via wpa_supplicant
[12:25] <amias> Woody_, plug in the monitor to the other vga out
[12:25] <chytraeus> do i need any other arguement with apt-get -f? it just displays the help menu for apt.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> chytraeus: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:25] <gnomefreak> chytraeus: that is the full command
[12:25] <sipior> chytraeus: yes, apt-get -f update or install or upgrade
[12:26] <Ferrixman> if i do a ifconfig, all i get for eth1 is:
[12:26] <Ferrixman> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:02:07:39:EC
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           inet6 addr: fe80::213:2ff:fe07:39ec/64 Scope:Link
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           RX packets:1893 errors:43 dropped:348 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[12:26] <imon9> doxa ..waht is the mattewr?
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           RX bytes:731026 (713.8 KiB)  TX bytes:134855 (131.6 KiB)
[12:26] <Doxa> Can anyone help me with a small question regarding partitions/disk recovery? (imon9 answered most of them, but I see he's not answering now)
[12:26] <Ferrixman>           Interrupt:177 Base address:0xc000 Memory:8a000000-8a000fff
[12:26] <Doxa> oh
[12:26] <Doxa> you're back :-)
[12:26] <Doxa> So I plugged the stuff and ran undelete-plus
[12:26] <imon9> yea..i am cooking at the moment..but u can ask
[12:27] <Doxa> but I see that the screwed up drive now only shows 15mb of memory
[12:27] <Doxa> even though when I ran gparted the partition showed 233gb or whatever
[12:27] <Ferrixman> so, why can't i connect???
[12:27] <adriaticator> I can't figure this out. TwinView seems to kinda work. I see a screen on both monitors, but I can't get to the second screen and they aren't acting as one big screen.
[12:27] <adriaticator> any ideas?
[12:28] <amias> Ferrixman, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:28] <adriaticator> It was working fine before, this started as soon as I upgraded to 7.04
[12:29] <amias> Ferrixman, which ubuntu are you using
[12:29] <Doxa> imon9: any ideas? Should I go back to gparted and play with the partitions, or just run undelete-plus as is? (it shows 15 mb, so I'm worried it won't scan the whole drive...)
[12:29] <nick01> hi- is 7.04 finished and they're just not leting u download it cause shipit is shipping the new version
[12:30] <amias> Ferrixman, what specific error messages are you getting
[12:30] <Ferrixman> ubuntu 6.10
[12:30] <Ferrixman> i don't get any error, i just can't surf the web
[12:31] <Ferrixman> gateway error? maybe?
[12:31] <Doxa> imon9: any ideas? Should I go back to gparted and play with the partitions, or just run undelete-plus as is? (it shows 15 mb, so I'm worried it won't scan the whole drive...)
[12:31] <Ferrixman> it seems, anyway, that i don't get IP address when connecting with wpa_supplicant
[12:31] <amias> Ferrixman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#head-68fa98ad9acb0d0e4603a98e7fe288a42a3924ca
[12:31] <imon9> fdoxa; for now, does "undelete-plus" show any result?
[12:31] <Doxa> I haven't run the scan yet.
[12:31] <Doxa> It just shows that it recognizes the drive but as being only 15mb in size
[12:31] <mg> are alt+f1 the right keys to turn on verbose output for the boot process?
[12:31] <imon9> ic
[12:32] <imon9> u should go back to gparted
[12:32] <amias> mg: its one way yes
[12:32] <imon9> delete both partition and cret only one partition using FAT32
[12:32] <Doxa> ok
[12:32] <Ferrixman> i'll give it a look
[12:32] <imon9> try that and come back here and tell me if it works
[12:32] <amias> Ferrixman, do other clients work with the same WPA key  ?
[12:32] <mg> amias, thx
[12:32] <Doxa> and that won't cause any damage to whatever files might still be on the drive?
[12:33] <amias> Doxa, take a disk image if you are worried , messing with partitions is always risky
[12:33] <Doxa> amias: Yeah... that's my problem... I seem to have screwed up the partitions...
[12:33] <Doxa> I'm trying to fix that...
[12:34] <Ferrixman> yes, i can connect from windows, for example
[12:34] <Ferrixman> so the AP works well and the WPA key is ok
[12:34] <Ferrixman> already tested it
[12:34] <amias> Ferrixman, on the same hardware ?
[12:34] <DVS01> is there a way to remove the alsa drivers package without removing any dependant packages?
[12:34] <Doxa> imon9: So doing what you said with the partitions... any chance that'll make the situation worse?
[12:35] <Ferrixman> same laptop, yes
[12:35] <imon9> doxa: no
[12:35] <chytraeus> i ran apt-get -f update and apt-get -f install and i get the following error " The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[12:35] <imon9> doxa: reason being a partiton does not touch the physical side of the disc..just it's identity
[12:36] <Jaikkanen> am i able to temporarly remove a swap partition while in qtparted? (in ubuntu)
[12:36] <Jaikkanen> more importantly, without anything going horribly wrong
[12:36] <mg> how verbose is alt+f1? i pressed it and it only shows ,,17179569.184000 ACPI Unable to locate RSDP'' and nothing else
[12:36] <superkirbyartist> Can I upgrade to feisty with CD?
[12:36] <Ferrixman> how can i know the driver i have to use???
[12:37] <variant> superkirbyartist: yes
[12:37] <variant> superkirbyartist: #ubuntu+1 for feisty chat
[12:37] <superkirbyartist> Variant, have you ever tried doing so?
[12:37] <variant> superkirbyartist: yeah.. from dapper to edgy. it works
[12:37] <superkirbyartist> Thanks.
[12:38] <mg> maybe i should try ,,acpi=off?
[12:38] <bef> hey, I downloaded VirtualBox from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads -- I just got the Edgy version (but am running 15/04 daily build of Feisty) Install ran smoothly until the liscence screen came up.. I can't figure out where to press OK or accept, there is an OK text at the bottom but not clickable nor can I press enter on it. Have tried typing YES and Y... any ideas?
[12:38] <amias> chytraeus,  tried this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30060.html
[12:38] <Ferrixman> amias, i need to know which driver to use for wpa_supplicant
[12:39] <amias> bef: if its going off the screen you might be able to move the window by pressing ALT and dragging the window with the mouse
[12:39] <Ferrixman> how can I?
[12:39] <danjah> Hello
[12:39] <amias> Ferrixman, which wireless card are you using ?
[12:40] <amias> Ferrixman, have you ever got it to work with out WPA
[12:40] <danjah> Is anyone ready to help me?
[12:40] <Ferrixman> integrated.... i think it is a 3945???
[12:40] <Ferrixman> and yes, it worked...
[12:40] <amias> danjah, propbably , just ask and people will jump in
[12:40] <Ferrixman> with wep
[12:40] <gioele> hello
[12:40] <danjah> thanks
[12:40] <gioele> is there a way to disable OSS emulation in feisty?
[12:40] <Doxa> imon9: I'm running gparted now. I can't figure out how to delete the partitions and create a new one
[12:40] <Ferrixman> i went to system->administration->networking
[12:41] <danjah> I am starting on IPTABLES, done a lot of reading, just need some help to get my head around something
[12:41] <Ferrixman> there, i've been able to let it work
[12:41] <laz> hello
[12:41] <Ferrixman> with wep
[12:41] <amias> Ferrixman, i fixed then ?
[12:41] <Ferrixman> still don't know which driver i have to use
[12:41] <Doxa> imon9: I'm running gparted now. I can't figure out how to delete the partitions and create a new one
[12:41] <Ferrixman> wext? is it ok?
[12:42] <Slart> Doxa: you have to unmount the partition first
[12:42] <Doxa> thanks
[12:42] <amias> Ferrixman, for the card or the WPA engine ?
[12:42] <danjah> iptables -P FORWARD deny  (is that a default thing)
[12:42] <Ferrixman> wpa_supplicant, when i have to supply the driver
[12:42] <laz> i get the message "Grub error 17 " when i turn on my PC
[12:42] <jay090> hello! does anyone have Ralink Wifi on ubuntu?
[12:43] <laz> any suggestion without formattinh?
[12:43] <Ferrixman> i run: wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
[12:43] <Ferrixman> but i'm not sure about the -Dwext
[12:43] <Doxa> imon9: gparted shows the partition to be 232. this is the one you said I should erase. Would it be ok if I sent you a screenshot of it just to make sure thats what I should do?
[12:43] <shukhrat_> how corectly install PHP ?
[12:43] <kbrooks> I'm sory to discuss wubi here, but...
[12:44] <shukhrat_> i suggest my PHP not working
[12:44] <jay090> Ferrixman, HI, on Xandros I get Rausb0, but on ubuntu it says sit0 but has no wireless extensions, I cant get the module to load
[12:44] <Doxa> imon9: gparted shows the partition to be 232. this is the one you said I should erase. Would it be ok if I sent you a screenshot of it just to make sure thats what I should do?
[12:45] <Ferrixman> jay090, i think i'm not following you...
[12:45] <chytraeus>  I tried to run sudo gedit /var/cache/apt/archives and gedit opens with this message: "Could not open the file /var/cache/apt/archives.
[12:45] <amias> danjah, i found firestarter was really useful for writing iptables firewall rules
[12:45] <Doxa> imon9: gparted shows the partition to be 232. this is the one you said I should erase. Would it be ok if I sent you a screenshot of it just to make sure thats what I should do?
[12:45] <jay090> I cant get wifi to setup on ubuntu with RT73, im not sure how to setup the driver, sorry im not sure if you were responfing to me in the first place
[12:46] <DVS01> ahh i love it
[12:46] <DVS01> synergy rules
[12:46] <prakka> beryl to ^^
[12:46] <DVS01> yeah
[12:46] <DVS01> except for beryl's performance
[12:46] <laz> hello! i get "grub error 17" when i turn on my pc
[12:47] <DVS01> im getting choppy performance with videos and games
[12:47] <laz> any suggestions?
[12:47] <Ferrixman> should i use wpa_cli???
[12:47] <Doxa> imon9?
[12:47] <prakka> true
[12:47] <amias> Ferrixman, did that tutorial not solve the problem ?
[12:47] <barravince> hi all
[12:47] <prakka> but it looks kinky
[12:47] <jay090> hi laz I think your partition table has changed so grub is not working because of that, what you can do is download SuperGrub iso and boot from it, then you can boot directly into your linux partition and reconfigure grub
[12:48] <variant> laz: what have you done recently? is it a new install?
[12:48] <barravince> so is there for ubuntu the alterative cd for installing ubuntu without start the live cd?
[12:48] <barravince> like kubuntu?
[12:48] <jay090> anyone help with installing Ralink drivers ?
[12:48] <chytraeus> amias:  I tried to run sudo gedit /var/cache/apt/archives and gedit opens with this message: "Could not open the file /var/cache/apt/archives.
[12:48] <laz> jay thanx
[12:49] <jay090> laz supergrub is very small and handy!
[12:49] <[Nige] > !vista
[12:49] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[12:49] <Doxa> imon9?
[12:49] <laz> variant : no
[12:49] <imon9> sorry
[12:49] <imon9> my cooking is burning :p
[12:49] <variant> laz: or you can use the existing ubuntu live cd thatyou have
[12:49] <prakka> VISTA: Virusses, Intruders, Spyware, Trojans and Adware
[12:49] <laz> variant: i cannot do anything with live cd
[12:49] <variant> laz: so what changed before this happened?
[12:49] <variant> laz: why not?
[12:49] <DVS01> crap
[12:49] <imon9> doxa; to delete all partition, right click at the bar-chart and delete
[12:49] <Ferrixman> wait... i'll try to use wifi conn...
[12:49] <DVS01> vista isnt supporting opengl.. this really sucks
[12:50] <Doxa> imon9: yeah, i got that
[12:50] <Doxa> basically i deleted it
[12:50] <prakka> so i heard
[12:50] <DVS01> it will unfortunately affect linux gaming negatively :(
[12:50] <laz> variant :  i have both xp pro and ubuntu
[12:50] <Doxa> and created a primary partition with what appears to be all the memory
[12:50] <Doxa> I'm just going to click "apply" and see how it goes
[12:50] <variant> DVS01: not true
[12:50] <imon9> doxa; then right clickt and create a FAT32 partiton (primary type)
[12:50] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with samba and vista?
[12:50] <danjah> how do i stealth ALL ports using IPTABLES?
[12:50] <DVS01> variant: no?
[12:50] <[Nige] > As in vista cant see the samba shares?
[12:50] <prakka> DVS01, it also sucks that linux is not very capable of playing directX games to, all because of Redmond
[12:51] <DVS01> danjah, set a policy of drop and then add allowed ports as per needed
[12:51] <variant> DVS01: http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/archive/2006/02/22/537624.aspx
[12:51] <danjah> DVS01 - exampl
[12:51] <laz> variant : i have 3 partitions : 1 xp, 1 ububtu and 1 unallocated that i
[12:51] <DVS01> none off hand.. i dont remember the exact syntax
[12:51] <DVS01> but besides rules, theres a thing called a policy
[12:51] <danjah> cheers, deny all INPUT
[12:51] <amias> DVS01, or port forward to a non-existant ip adress for extra guru points
[12:51] <DVS01> sorta like a default rule
[12:51] <danjah> got ya
[12:52] <jay090> anyone with RT73 info?
[12:52] <Doxa> imon9: it shows the same amount of gb as before
[12:52] <Doxa> only without the "unallocated" underneath
[12:52] <DVS01> amias: may as well create a machine called devnull and forward to it =P
[12:52] <Doxa> this time you say it'll recognize the entire drive in undelete-plus?
[12:52] <Doxa> imon9: fat32, yes?
[12:52] <amias> jay090, urm google
[12:52] <amias> Doxa, he's scraping his pans
[12:53] <jay090> amias, I am right now :)
[12:53] <imon9> yes..fat32
[12:53] <danjah> sym
[12:53] <Doxa> ok. thanks. (i'm sure I'll be back for more dumb questions)
[12:53] <DVS01> variant: interesting
[12:54] <danjah> syn packets
[12:54] <chytraeus>  i ran apt-get -f update and apt-get -f install and i get the following error " The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." And when I open Synaptic it is not listing any packages.
[12:54] <Stig> hi, for some reason when I try to move or delete files in my /home folder, it says "Cannot move "/home/My D..._Large.jpg" to the Deleted Items folder because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder." I have tried logging into root and it doesn't make any difference... not quite sure what I have done.. help!
[12:54] <Doxa> imon9: there was an error in creating the new partition
[12:54] <amias> chytraeus, try clamav instead
[12:55] <amias> Stig, right click the file in nautlus and check the permissions
[12:55] <DVS01> i'm just glad that john carmack said that linux and mac support won't cease for id software's future games
[12:55] <chytraeus> amias: clamav is installed and running.
[12:56] <Doxa> imon9:
[12:56] <Linuxnewbie756> is feisty still due out the 19th?
[12:57] <Joseaa> Is there any way to get embedded wmp media contents to work in browsers like FF and Opera ?
[12:57] <Doxa> there was an error while creating the new partition. it now has a black square and says the filesystem is "unknown"
[12:57] <amias> Linuxnewbie756, you can use it now
[12:57] <Linuxnewbie756> amias: yes, but it is beta, right? or whatever.
[12:57] <Doxa> amias: maybe you can help?
[12:57] <Linuxnewbie756> amias: did rc come out yet?
[12:57] <chytraeus> amias: when i say synpatic isn't listing any packages i mean it isn't listing *any* packages for *anything*. i should have been more clear.
[12:57] <bef> hey, I downloaded VirtualBox from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads -- I just got the Edgy version (but am running 15/04 daily build of Feisty) Install ran smoothly until the liscence screen came up.. I can't figure out where to press OK or accept, there is an OK text at the bottom but not clickable nor can I press enter on it. Have tried typing YES and Y... any ideas?
[12:57] <amias> Linuxnewbie756, its pretty stable here , YMMV
[12:58] <francois> !codecs|Doxa
[12:58] <ubotu> Doxa: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <Stig> It says. Owner: root, Access: read and write. group: root, access: read and write, others: access: read only. not sure if that is what your after, I've only been using ubuntu for a week :O
[12:58] <bef> amias: its not going off screen, it's inside of the "Terminal" window of package installer
[12:58] <Stig> at the bottom it says "you are not the owner, so you cant change these permissions."
[12:58] <Doxa> imon9: there was an error installing the new partition
[12:58] <Linuxnewbie756> amias: ah, i don' have much time to work on it, i have school and other things, but i can this weekend, thats why i was just wondering if the *real version comes out thursday
[12:58] <ph8> is there an alternative to nautilus?
[12:58] <ph8> it freezes up on me a hell of a lot
[12:58] <Doxa> it now says the filesystem is "unknown"
[12:58] <pistacio> howdy
[12:58] <Vuen> two days until the release! i'm so excited
[12:59] <Linuxnewbie756> ph8: yes there is, i just don't know the name
[12:59] <francois> ph8: konqueror
[12:59] <Vuen> i pre-ordered cds
[12:59] <danjah> hello again...
[12:59] <ph8> Linuxnewbie756: do you know if it's better?
[12:59] <Linuxnewbie756> Vuen: so did i
[12:59] <ph8> francois: I have beef with kde :)
[12:59] <ph8> i might change when i get my new pc
[12:59] <Linuxnewbie756> ph8: if what is better?
[12:59] <danjah> this only stealths a handfull of ports |||   iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --syn -j DROP
[12:59] <ph8> Linuxnewbie756: the alternative
[12:59] <francois> ph8: haha, so do many people,
[12:59] <Linuxnewbie756> ph8: no
[12:59] <amias> Linuxnewbie756, you can install now and keep updating , that way you get a headstart
[12:59] <francois> thats true, good idea amias
[01:00] <Linuxnewbie756> amias: so if i install now, by saturday it will on my system be the "real deal"
[01:00] <DVS01> should i go for xgl or aiglx, if using an nvidia card? i'm getting crappy performance in aiglx when using beryl+doom3, or beryl+movies
[01:00] <amias> Linuxnewbie756, yes , you might get some big updates to
[01:00] <amias> s/to/though/
[01:01] <chytraeus> so if synaptic is broken how do i fix it.
[01:01] <Linuxnewbie756> DVS01: so was i, beryl plus any process intensive thing means no go on my machine, beryl is awesome, but i don't use it now
[01:01] <gioele> DVS01: I think you should stay with plain X + glx when needed
[01:01] <Dybber> Where do I change which soundcard to use? (I've tried System -> Properties -> Sound and the gnome volume control)
[01:01] <amias> DVS01, i seem to remeber that xgl was faster than aiglx for nvidia , this may have changed
[01:02] <DVS01> gioele: do you think that this is just a temporary situation, considering that beryl is new?
[01:02] <dv_> nvidia drivers need neither xgl nor aiglx
[01:02] <bef> amias: any idea?
[01:02] <amias> Dybber, S -> P -> Sound does it for me
[01:02] <DVS01> dv_: so what purpose do xgl and aiglx serve then?
[01:03] <gioele> DVS01: yes, your card + server + wm is too "experimental" to expect performance
[01:03] <dv_> DVS01, compositing via gl
[01:03] <Dybber> amias, ok, that also worked yesterday, I suspect that some of the latest updates have corrupted the Audigy drivers
[01:03] <DVS01> hrm
[01:03] <amias> dv_, they do if you want to use a composite window manager (i.e. beryl)
[01:03] <DVS01> ok that makes sense then
[01:03] <dv_> no, the drivers already have ext_texture_from_pixmap built in,
[01:03] <amias> Dybber, i have a usb midi keyboard that keeps reordering my soundcards if its plugged in when i boot
[01:04] <dv_> and thats all they need, actually
[01:04] <Gretl> dv is right
[01:04] <DVS01> actually, i dont think i have that extension, dv_
[01:04] <dv_> oh well maybe aiglx is used for enabling offscreen rendering
[01:04] <Doxa> imon9: there was an error when I tried to create the new partition. I then removed the drive and took it back to my XP computer, where it still only recognized 15mb
[01:04] <dv_> but beryl is just an opengl application which uses textures whose source are X11 pixmaps
[01:04] <dv_> DVS01, do you have the newest nvidia drivers? or still 8776?
[01:05] <DVS01> how do i check?
[01:05] <dv_> glxinfo, look for vendor string
[01:05] <amias> dv_ : xgl and aiglx make all the graphics writes use opengl functions
[01:05] <DVS01> i used the instructions in the topic of #ubuntu-effects, which uses the package system.. which probably isnt up to date
[01:05] <dv_> errr version string
[01:05] <Doxa> imon9: there was an error when I tried to create the new partition. I then removed the drive and took it back to my XP computer, where it still only recognized 15mb
[01:05] <pistacio> any place specific one might ask abotu a sound issue ?
[01:06] <DVS01> 8776
[01:06] <amias> pistacio, here probably
[01:06] <dv_> amias, aiglx and xgl are just mechanisms to get x pixmaps into GL textures
[01:06] <amias> dv_, thats what i said :)
[01:06] <dv_> its analogous to the composite extension, in that both cause the windows to be rendered offscreen
[01:06] <DVS01> so dv_, are you saying that if i have the latest nvidia drivers, i wont need xgl and aiglx?
[01:07] <foug> what's the same of the image viewer for ubuntu? not gimp, the more simple one
[01:07] <dv_> BUT, the nvidia drivers have this functionality built in already, so they dont need aiglx
[01:07] <Doxa> imon9: there was an error when I tried to create the new partition. I then removed the drive and took it back to my XP computer, where it still only recognized 15mb
[01:07] <amias> foug, eog
[01:07] <dv_> then again,
[01:07] <dv_> this is nvidia specific
[01:07] <dv_> aiglx is vendor neutral
[01:07] <foug> amias: nice thanks man
[01:07] <imon9> doxa:
[01:07] <DVS01> dv_, that would effectively mean that xgl and aiglx are workarounds for lack of ext_texture_from_pixmap?
[01:07] <imon9> i'm finally back doxa
[01:07] <dv_> so using aiglx might be technically wiser in the end, but right now beryl has a custom nvidia backend
[01:08] <Doxa> that's the best news I've heard today. :-p
[01:08] <imon9> Doxa: do you have the latest Gparted?
[01:08] <dv_> DVS01, no, they are mechanisms for enabling this extension
[01:08] <dv_> for making it possible, that is
[01:08] <amias> dv_, i think that means xgl and aiglx are just patched xservers that use xgl
[01:08] <Doxa> Well I just downloaded it today
[01:08] <Doxa> when you told me to
[01:08] <Doxa> I used Synaptic
[01:08] <dv_> amias, aiglx does not use xgl :)
[01:08] <pistacio> ok well i got no sound on here and i followed a faq and a few docs online until i cant find anything more , can i paste a link ?
[01:08] <foug> amias: does eog stand for anything?
[01:08] <dv_> eye of gnome
[01:08] <fiery_cleric> eye of gnome
[01:08] <fiery_cleric> stupid name
[01:09] <dv_> amias, I admit its very confusing
[01:09] <foug> heh, cool
[01:09] <amias> dv_, yeps but you need at least one of them
[01:09] <amias> foug, eye of gnome
[01:09] <foug> thanks
[01:09] <DVS01> dv_: from what you say, all i need is updated drivers. would this make things perform better, considering i won't be using xgl or aiglx?
[01:09] <fiery_cleric> xv was better :)
[01:09] <dv_> DVS01, I ran beryl with the 9xxx drivers a while ago, and it worked surprisingly well
[01:09] <foug> can i stop/play songs through my terminal?
[01:09] <amias> foug, which player do you use ?
[01:10] <dv_> had ~1-2% cpu load hits at most
[01:10] <DVS01> dv_: interesting
[01:10] <foug> amias: exaile
[01:10] <dv_> but keep in mind that this area is still under construction
[01:10] <DVS01> yah
[01:10] <Doxa> imon9?
[01:10] <fiery_cleric> !info xv
[01:10] <DVS01> well my main concern here isnt as much games as it is videos and movies
[01:10] <ubotu> Package xv does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:10] <pistacio> i have sb awe64 gold and i followed this ->http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+64+Value.&chip=sb16%2C+emu8000&module=sbawe#Inst
[01:10] <DVS01> i want to be able to watch youtube smoothly without disabling beryl
[01:10] <dv_> I hope in future all drivers just expose aiglx and are done with it
[01:10] <DVS01> and movies in vlc player
[01:11] <pistacio> not matter how many times i do it , it says no module
[01:11] <dv_> DVS01, worked
[01:11] <DVS01> hmm :)
[01:11] <pistacio> :(
[01:11] <dv_> early drivers didnt support yuv overlays, new ones do
[01:11] <pistacio> makes install no errors , but i get no module wheh i do the modprobe
[01:12] <dv_> oh, but I recall there was one xorg.conf option you have to enable
[01:12] <amias> foug, apparently CLI interaction is broken - http://www.exaile.org/trac/ticket/410
[01:12] <dv_> dont remember which one though
[01:12] <Doxa> imon9?
[01:12] <foug> amias: that's too bad, thanks for looking man
[01:12] <dv_> maybe its gone by now
[01:12] <fiery_cleric> pistacio:  support with ubuntu for your awe gold
[01:12] <Ferrixman> it seems to work now!
[01:12] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: is there support
[01:12] <Ferrixman> i'm connected via wireless
[01:13] <amias> foug, np , it shouldn't be hard to fix , you could add to the bug report to help speed it up
[01:13] <amias> Ferrixman, cool , what was it ?
[01:13] <DVS01> dv_, i'll try
[01:13] <DVS01> im actually about to reinstall
[01:13] <DVS01> this laptop is currently just a staging environment
[01:13] <DVS01> migrating from windows xp
[01:13] <dv_> the laptop has a geforce go?
[01:13] <Ferrixman> i don't know
[01:13] <Ferrixman> and i don't know how it works
[01:13] <DVS01> dv_: lemme check.. dont know if they have non-go's for laptops
[01:13] <dv_> DVS01, you might try feisty
[01:13] <imon9> daxa: try the latest Gparted Live CD
[01:13] <Ferrixman> but it does
[01:13] <pistacio> it says yes and even worse when i check in the folder the alsa creates i see the darn .ko is there
[01:13] <dv_> its final release comes this week
[01:13] <Doxa> imon9: ok
[01:13] <pistacio> but modprobe says no
[01:13] <dv_> and it has the 9xxx drivers in by default
[01:13] <amias> Ferrixman, a good way to learn would be to backup the configs then try to break it
[01:13] <DVS01> its a geforce 7600. not sure if its go or not.
[01:14] <dv_> should be a go
[01:14] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: why cant u use the module (if it exists) that comes with ubuntu
[01:14] <dv_> anyway, the drivers are unified
[01:14] <DVS01> dv_: in any case, why do you ask?
[01:14] <Ferrixman> amias... i don't really know what you mean...
[01:14] <Ferrixman> :-(
[01:14] <dv_> DVS01, just checkin
[01:14] <pistacio> its not included by default so the online doc says , which is why i followed that doc to make it
[01:15] <dv_> DVS01, btw stay away from using these 3d desktops with ati cards if you can.
[01:15] <DVS01> yeah, i prefer nvidia
[01:15] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: so whats the error when u try to insmod the module?
[01:15] <amias> Ferrixman, its good to know what made it work incase it breaks again
[01:16] <pistacio> FATAL: Error inserting snd_sbawe (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sbawe.ko): No such device
[01:16] <DVS01> dv_, thanks for letting me know about feisty btw. im gonna download it right now
[01:17] <pistacio> i ls that folder and i see it there
[01:17] <pistacio> im confused hehe
[01:17] <amias> pistacio, thats not a module problem , the device is not detected
[01:17] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: can u do a modinfo on the module ... u may need to pass parameters ,
[01:17] <Ferrixman> oh, well... i know...
[01:18] <pistacio> no idea hehe , this is my first real go at ubuntu
[01:18] <Ferrixman> now i'll try to restart my system
[01:18] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: type modinfo snd-sbawe
[01:18] <hang3r> Does anyone else have a problem with gnome-btdownload incorrectly reporting the current download status, i.e. with a torrent currently it has downloaded "430MB of 347MB" and is still only 70% complete
[01:18] <amias> pistacio, go to a terminal and type dmesg , then look for anything about sound cards
[01:18] <Ferrixman> hoping everything works well
[01:19] <DVS01> to back up what dv_ said.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiglx
[01:19] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: yeah and what amais said ...
[01:19] <pistacio> ya it return a page full
[01:19] <DVS01> section 'AIGLX on NVIDIA Graphics Cards'
[01:20] <amias> hang3r, might be corrupt sections being redownloaded
[01:20] <pistacio> modinfo snd-sbawe list me out of info on my card i guess
[01:20] <fiery_cleric> !pastebin | pistacio
[01:20] <ubotu> pistacio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <amias> ;-)
[01:20] <mneptok> hang3r: i would recommend BitTornado over the mainline BT client
[01:20] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: paste the output there
[01:20] <pistacio> ok gimy a sec
[01:21] <hang3r> amias, that's exactly what I was thinking, but it seems a little extreme. It actually corrects itself at the end when a torrent is complete.
[01:21] <amias> yup gnome-btdownload is far to basic , azureus is very powerfull
[01:21] <fiery_cleric> dyslexic
[01:21] <hang3r> mneptok, I know there's many better clients, just testing this one for the first time, I usually use azureus
[01:21] <Ferrixman> excellent... it works now
[01:21] <imon9> hang3r: i would say Deluge is better
[01:21] <amias> fiery_cleric, sorry didn't mean to be nasty
[01:22] <imon9> mneptok: use Deluge...it is more like uTorrent
[01:22] <Ferrixman> i think it was a sort of DHCP conflict between wifi and wired connection
[01:22] <fiery_cleric> amias: nah just joking i dont know why my irc client is sposed to have nick auto-completion
[01:22] <hang3r> imon9, Yeah, heard lots of good from it, so I may give it a shot one day
[01:22] <amias> fiery_cleric, auto-complete breaks so badly on busy #'s like this one
[01:22] <WorkBond> how do I install irssi-fish in ubuntu using apt?
[01:23] <pistacio> ok i posted it there you need the link or just by my nick ?
[01:23] <Ferrixman> now.... another tip...
[01:23] <anotherfinemess> hello room
[01:23] <Ferrixman> i've installed beryl, but...
[01:23] <Ferrixman> when i enter a beryl session and beryl starts working, i can't use Ctrl+keys
[01:24] <Stig> How to I add my Ubuntu PC to my home network? I'm new to Ubuntu...
[01:24] <pistacio> last 4 lines of dmesg i think are related , kinda maybe irq issue perhaps
[01:24] <pistacio> hmmm
[01:24] <Stig> I'm using edgy btw
[01:24] <fiery_cleric> pistacio: the most common thing is to have to pass an irq
[01:24] <zootm> Stig: Is it a windows network?
[01:24] <mneptok> imon9: i don't care about uTorrent
[01:24] <Stig> yes
[01:24] <amias> Ferrixman , beryl remaps lots of shortcuts , it might have grabbed the one you are trying to use
[01:24] <zootm> i think if you right click on a folder, and select to share it
[01:25] <zootm> it'll ask you if you want to share it on the windows network
[01:25] <zootm> and that should do it
[01:25] <Ferrixman> also Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v???
[01:25] <Ferrixman> it sounds amazing!
[01:25] <zootm> although you'll need username/password to access the share from other computers
[01:25] <amias> Ferrixman, that is a bit odd
[01:25] <Stig> Ah ok, but I want to use my printer, which is located on one of the PCs which is on the windows network.
[01:25] <pistacio> ok
[01:25] <gesus> hey i've got two text files that are a list of 200 movies, but one is slightly different --- how can i compare the two to see which movies are not on the other list?? cheers.
[01:25] <pistacio> umm
[01:26] <Ferrixman> i can't even use my AltGr so i can't write @, # and ...
[01:26] <mneptok> gesus: diff file1.txt file2.txt
[01:26] <zootm> Stig: Aha, is it shared?
[01:26] <amias> Stig: System->Administration->Printing
[01:26] <bef_>  VirtualBox kernel driver not accessible, permission problem. Make sure that the current user has write permissions to /dev/vboxdrv by adding him to the vboxusers groups. Don't forget to logout to take the change effect.   Why do I get this? I'm trying to install Windows through Virtualbox.. I have added my Ubuntu user Bef to the group vboxusers and logged out -- logged in.
[01:26] <Stig> yes, it should be
[01:26] <pistacio> ya i see this now 3 lines from bottom of demsg output ..  2334.143808]  pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 01:01.00.
[01:26] <gesus> mneptok, cheers mate i'll give that a crack
[01:26] <zootm> i thiiiink you can add it through the printing thing, but you might need windows networking (samba) installed
[01:26] <pistacio> dang
[01:27] <zootm> Stig: If you go to System/Administration/Printing/New Printer
[01:27] <amias> bef_, checked the perms for /dev/vboxdrv and that you have whatever modules it needs running
[01:27] <Stig> yeah im doing it now thanks
[01:27] <zootm> then select Network Printer/Windows Printer
[01:27] <zootm> it should work
[01:27] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:27] <Stig> hmm, I can see the host, but can't seem to see the printer...
[01:28] <bef_> sorry i missed that response, someone please copy and paste the last message that started with "bef:"
[01:28] <amias> Stig, sounds like you windows box needs more sharing options enabled
 bef_, checked the perms for /dev/vboxdrv and that you have whatever modules it needs running
[01:29] <mg> bef_, at which time appeared the message you missed?
[01:29] <mg> ah k
[01:29] <amias> clouder`grr, erm ?
[01:29] <Gaban> hi
[01:29] <imon9> amias: do u know how to use the command aplay with loop?
[01:29] <clouder`grr> I guess I should have prepended bef_ to that
[01:29] <clouder`grr> :X
[01:29] <bef_> thanks clouder`grr
[01:29] <bef_> thanks mg
[01:29] <bef_> amias: what permissions must it have?
[01:29] <Ferrixman> how can i see windows xp shared documents on another machine?
[01:30] <amias> bef_: readable and writeable by  vboxusers
[01:31] <amias> Ferrixman, Places -> Network
[01:31] <Stig> I manually typed the name of the printer and I am now on step 2 or 3, which is printer drivers... My printer does not seem to be listed...
[01:31] <knoppix> heylo..
[01:31] <ReverseBlade> Ferrixman, technically samba , in practice do as amias said
[01:31] <Ferrixman> i thought that, but seems it can't see any
[01:31] <ReverseBlade> Stig, unfortunately you have to type it manual in that case
[01:31] <Stig> but im not sure where the driver is...
[01:32] <ReverseBlade> Ferrixman, read about samba and samba client
[01:32] <ReverseBlade> !samba > Ferrixman
[01:32] <ReverseBlade> !samba
[01:32] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:32] <nn> hello
[01:32] <amias> Ferrixman, add you wins server ip to  the wins server line in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:33] <pistacio> how would i pass along this irq info to it ?
[01:33] <Ferrixman> but... wait...
[01:33] <knoppix> hey
[01:33] <knoppix> d
[01:33] <Ferrixman> my win pc should answer to a ping, isn't it?
[01:33] <knoppix> fcr
[01:34] <amias> imon9: you could use bash shell tricks to make it run again and again
[01:34] <ReverseBlade> Ferrixman, not compulsory, your win machine may block pings due to its firewall settings but you can still communicate it via samba
[01:34] <amias> Ferrixman, depends on its firewall settings ,
[01:34] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:34] <Ferrixman> yes, it's true...
[01:34] <azizielee> can i noe u???
[01:34] <ReverseBlade> T0uCH, #kubuntu
[01:34] <Ferrixman> i wasn't thinking about it
[01:35] <tham> hye
[01:35] <DVS01> damnit i am confused
[01:35] <DVS01> why the hell is doom3 running fast as hell now with beryl
[01:35] <kolpoooo> hai tam
[01:36] <DVS01> not that i mind =D
[01:36] <ayin> hye..
[01:36] <Ferrixman> i'm now trying to Places->Connect to Server...
[01:36] <DVS01> oh nevermind, its slowish
[01:36] <Ferrixman> then i choose Windows Share
[01:36] <ayin> hi ferixxman
[01:36] <Ferrixman> i also put my User Name
[01:36] <kolpoooo> dont play2 a
[01:37] <Ferrixman> hi ayin
[01:37] <cyberfr0g`> hi
[01:37] <Gaban> siapa dari Malaysia
[01:37] <bronson> hye power..
[01:37] <kolpoooo> sapesapela
[01:38] <bronson> hehe..angan2 penting ooo
[01:38] <Ferrixman> couldn't display the contents
[01:38] <kolpoooo> angan ke angau??
[01:39] <bronson> mana je..
[01:39] <Ferrixman> could it be because i use a password to protect my data?
[01:39] <POWERRANGERS> HA...HA
[01:39] <kolpoooo> nope
[01:40] <bronson> never refuse..
[01:40] <kolpoooo> y????
[01:40] <amias> Ferrixman, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12306
[01:40] <bronson> cos if 9 bring nothing.1 may repay u
[01:41] <gesus> mneptok, that diff command worked thanks mate -- except, once the files went out of sync it returned everything even though the same lines were in both text files (just not in the same place) anyway of changing that?
[01:41] <moDumass> hey all, which is the best video codec or package to install, watching clips full screen my machine stutters all over the show
[01:41] <DVS01> have you tried vlc player?
[01:41] <kolpoooo> wat ever u like
[01:41] <fiery_cleric> gesus: cat file1 file2 | sort | uniq ...
[01:41] <Gaban> vlc? yes
[01:42] <gesus> fiery_cleric, cheers dude
[01:42] <kolpoooo> nope
[01:42] <amias> moDumass, it depends on the video file  and the video card , but yeah vlc is pretty good
[01:42] <kolpoooo> vlc is suck
[01:42] <Gaban> vlc is good choice
[01:42] <bronson> dun talk rubbish laa..
[01:42] <idefixs> The players are all pretty much the same in terms of CPU usage.
[01:42] <Doxa> imon9: the livecd wouldn't run. there was some error
[01:42] <kolpoooo> sory dude
[01:43] <Doxa> I restarted, got to its boot menu, did the first option to run gparted, and there was some error.
[01:43] <kolpoooo> some video are mising
[01:43] <kolpoooo> bebug promb
[01:43] <bronson> at least u have learn something
[01:44] <POWERRANGERS> ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV2WXYZ
[01:44] <bronson> bile rehat nie??
[01:44] <POWERRANGERS> 123456789010
[01:44] <Gaban> nanti la rehat
[01:44] <kolpoooo> thus
[01:44] <Gaban> main dulu
[01:44] <kbrooks> bronson, what language?
[01:44] <kolpoooo> japanseee
[01:44] <POWERRANGERS> PERUT  LAPO NAK WAT CAMMANA YE
[01:44] <gesus> fiery_cleric, that didn't work mate it just returned the whole text files. basically the two text files are a list of about 200 lines, except one has about 10 extra lines i need to find what those ones are? can i find out with that 'diff' command? thanks for your help.
[01:44] <Gaban> bahasa kebangsaan
[01:44] <bronson> jom serbu seeni corner kat yikfong
[01:45] <Enverex> I don't suppose anyone here can read Russian can they?
[01:45] <Gaban> best ker
[01:45] <kolpoooo> dah ttp lor
[01:45] <Pici> !ru
[01:45] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:45] <POWERRANGERS> KENA KARI  MAMAK  BARU POWER
[01:45] <Gaban> ok rehat now
[01:45] <Pici> !english
[01:45] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:45] <kolpoooo> best gak 2
[01:45] <bronson> sian x lama lg tutup ar..2
[01:45] <POWERRANGERS> MAMAK KAT YIK FONG TUTUP CEPAT SANGAT
[01:46] <kolpoooo> yup
[01:46] <kolpoooo> dah kaya mcm 2 ler
[01:46] <Enverex> Pici, I don't speak Russian and I don't need help with Russian Ubuntu
[01:46] <Gaban> tu kayap la
[01:46] <Doxa> anyone here familiar with gparted and can help me?
[01:46] <bronson> ape..x laku
[01:46] <Doxa> the guy who was helping me before seems to have left
[01:46] <kolpoooo> i can
[01:46] <Pici> !english | bronson, Gaban, kolpoooo
[01:46] <ubotu> bronson, Gaban, kolpoooo: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:46] <bronson>  i can speak rusian what..
[01:46] <kolpoooo> what the prob??
[01:47] <Doxa> kolpoooo:
[01:47] <Gaban> don't offer if u don't know maaa
[01:47] <fiery_cleric> gesus: ok its cat file1 file2 | sort |uniq -u
[01:47] <Doxa> I've been trying to recover data from my external hard drive
[01:47] <kolpoooo> ok
[01:47] <kolpoooo> so??
[01:47] <Doxa> I've been told to use undelete-plus on windows.
[01:47] <Doxa> But the problem with my drive is a partition issue
[01:47] <Gaban> get some rest first
[01:47] <bronson>  deyy..tengga da..
[01:47] <Doxa> Basically, when i check the drive on windows (and with undelete plus) it shows that the drive only has 15 mb
[01:47] <Doxa> but it's a 250gb drive
[01:48] <kolpoooo> k
[01:48] <moDumass> amias, i mean theres xine and theres another one, g something
[01:48] <raf256> I was told that the guy(s) who invented the whole Ubuntu idea got very rich - is this true? Any online article about business side of ubuntu success(?) ?
[01:48] <Enverex> bronson, Can you look at a website for me and tell me the name of the company that makes the program on the page please? I'm trying to update Wine's AppDB
[01:48] <POWERRANGERS> ESOK   TAMAT,  BERANI KE REPAIR PC,  TEMAN DUA JE TAK BAIK JAHANAM
[01:48] <kolpoooo> some othr info??
[01:48] <Doxa> So I was told to delete whatever partitions I have and create a new one, and that the way to do that was with gparted on ubuntu
[01:48] <amias> moDumass, mplayer is pretty good
[01:48] <Pici> raf256: Mark Shuttleworth was quite wealthy before he started the Ubuntu project, you might want to check up on his wikipedia page for more info.
[01:48] <Doxa> So I deleted what I had, and tried to create a new partition that included all of the drive's memory and the filesystem as fat32
[01:49] <gesus> fiery_cleric, that's the one mate thanks a lot!!
[01:49] <bronson> what jahanam?
[01:49] <derjoerg> does anybody know, if there are plans to implement kernel-vserver-patch for feisty?
[01:49] <raf256> Pici: thanks, any other things to check out on "people who got rich on linux"?
[01:49] <sciboy> I really need help, i can't figure out why the live cd was able to use the nvidia drivers but my installation can't? D=
[01:49] <Doxa> but when I do, it gives me an error message, and now I have a partition whose filesystem is "unknown"
[01:49] <amias> raf256, google
[01:49] <amias> sciboy, kernel versions ?
[01:50] <kolpoooo> ?
[01:50] <kolpoooo> hello....
[01:50] <Doxa> kolpooooo
[01:50] <bronson> what r  u all talking about?
[01:50] <muszek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410795 - could someone please try to help that guy? He wrote articles about how unfriendly Ubuntu community was towards him and it would be nice to prove him wrong :).  His article: http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11317/1023/
[01:50] <sciboy> amias: 2.6.17, 2.6.18 and 2.6.20 all  tested.
[01:50] <Enverex> bronson, http://qip.ru/ru/pages/about_ru/
[01:50] <kolpoooo> i dont know
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:50] <Enverex> ...
[01:50] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:51] <jrib> bronson: stop
[01:51] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:51] <bronson> hihihihihihi
[01:51] <Doxa> kolpoooo?
[01:51] <sciboy> amias: Only thing i'm finding really suspicious is that when i go to /proc, it doesn't recognise the video bios.
[01:51] <Pici> jrib: Thanks ;)
[01:51] <sciboy> amias: Which means it isn't X related. =/
[01:51] <Enverex> jrib, Can you do something about POWERRANGERS and the others while you're there?
[01:51] <raf256> bronson was quite happy it seems
[01:51] <quaal> how do i make ubuntu able to open mac .iso's
[01:51] <quaal> of a .dmg
[01:51] <Doxa> can anyone help me?
[01:52] <Enverex> quaal, You need to find a program to open DMG files, afaik there is only one at the moment so I'd Google for it
[01:52] <fiery_cleric> muszek: taking a look at the article...
[01:52] <tovella> Doxa: it sounds to me like you have a hardware problem - either the drive or the cable is malfunctioning.
[01:52] <amias> quaal, loopfs
[01:52] <sciboy> amias: As a note, this all happened after my system froze hard.
[01:52] <bef_> !pastebin
[01:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <Doxa> It's a new drive, and has been working perfectly fine until I accidently screwed up the partitions
[01:52] <quaal> amias, thanks
[01:52] <amias> sciboy, have you tried reflashing the video bios ?
[01:52] <tovella> Doxa: did you assign the entire 250GB as fat32?
[01:52] <Doxa> Yes
[01:52] <sciboy> amias: I wouldn't know how or where.
[01:53] <derjoerg> nobody here, who has some info about vserver-integration ?
[01:53] <Doxa> That's what I'm trying to do. Because the recover software doesn't seem to recognize anything beyond 15mb
[01:53] <tovella> Doxa: even new drives can "go south".
[01:53] <amias> quaal, .dmg should be an iso image IIRC
[01:53] <muszek> fiery_cleric: I wrote a reply at http://www.ubuntunews.info/ubuntu-fanboys-not-really and he's just replied to it (that's why I know he posted a question on ubuntuforums)
[01:53] <quaal> amias it is a .iso
[01:53] <Doxa> tovella: but it's not like it randomally stopped working
[01:53] <quaal> but nothing in ubuntu can open it
[01:53] <quaal> only nero on windows has been able to so far
[01:53] <amias> quaal, so it will be an iso inside an iso
[01:53] <Doxa> tovella: i forgot my external drive was plugged in while trying to create an ubuntu boot out of a usb stick
[01:54] <sciboy> amias: All the results i got from google were overclocking related and custom. =/
[01:54] <Doxa> tovella: and accidentally screwed with the partitions on my external hard drive. now I'm trying to recover those files
[01:54] <quaal> amias file mage-mact.iso
[01:54] <quaal> mage-mact.iso: Apple Partition data block size: 512, first type: Apple_partition_map, name: auto-generated map, number of blocks: 3, second type: Apple_HFS, name: tiger-xiso.dmg, number of blocks: 5531656,
[01:54] <Doxa> I'm just worried that if I run the recover program on 15 mb it won't work
[01:54] <halorgium> i installed linux on a separate harddrive from my windows install
[01:54] <halorgium> now i want to dual boot
[01:54] <spheard> hi, Im trying to reinstate grum after it was removed by vista. I cant ge grub to find my linux partition
[01:54] <jrib> POWERRANGERS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MalaysianTeam  please join the #ubuntu-my channel for help
[01:54] <Doxa> I haven't actually tried. But I can see that it only detects 15 mb.
[01:55] <tovella> Doxa: i thought you deleted the partition - the 250GB is the external, right?
[01:55] <halorgium> i can't work out whether i need to put grub on the NTFS drive
[01:55] <Doxa> correct
[01:55] <amias> quaal, first google result for 'ubuntu mount dmg file' - http://velociraptor.info/notes/?p=229
[01:55] <Doxa> I did delete the partition. That's what I was told to do by imon9, who isn't in this room anymore
[01:55] <tovella> Doxa: if you deleted the partition, you will not be able to recover files from it.
[01:55] <jrib> Enverex: others?
[01:56] <Gruelius> Hi everyone. I cant get my 3 monitors to work properly, if someone could help me with my xorg.conf file that would be great. Also when i run Kino it wont find my camera, i get a message about the 1934 subsystem not responding.
[01:56] <Enverex> jrib, They seem to have stopped now, POWERRANGERS was the worst, just shouting stuff in caps
[01:56] <sciboy> aimas, If you could point me in the right direction it'd be greatly appreciated, i'm stuck using links2 and irssi right now, I'm using a Geforce FX 5200
[01:56] <jrib> Enverex: k, thanks
[01:56] <Doxa> tovella: i'm trying to use a file recovering software. since I haven't written any files onto the hard drive, from what I understand I should be able to recover them (or at least some of them)
[01:57] <amias> sciboy, i just followed one of the tutorials and it worked
[01:57] <sciboy> amias: A flashing tutorial?
[01:57] <tovella> Doxa: i understand.  it probably won't work, particularly with the fact that the 250GB is reading at 15.
[01:57] <fiery_cleric> muszek: i like the stereotypes of the linux user and the windows user ... v funny....
[01:57] <spheard> hi, Im trying to reinstate grum after it was removed by vista. I cant ge grub to find my linux partition
[01:57] <Doxa> how do I get it to read at 250
[01:57] <muszek> fiery_cleric: :)
[01:57] <amias> sciboy, no , an nvidia drivers tutorial
[01:58] <Gruelius> anyone good with xorg.conf?
[01:58] <tovella> Doxa: the only ways I can think of will definitely wipe the data you're trying to recover.
[01:58] <sciboy> amias: Oh mine worked perfectly before, but i had that system freeze and shit has really messed up.
[01:58] <Doxa> i see....
[01:58] <amias> sciboy, tried the card in another machine or with another OS ?
[01:58] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> does ubuntu support dual core amd?
[01:59] <Doxa> tovella: so should I try using the recover program now
[01:59] <Doxa> as is?
[01:59] <tovella> Doxa: ...if it's not wiped already.
[01:59] <Enverex> {uX}l`VampyrCeil, yes
[01:59] <sciboy> amias: Nope, don't have any other machines with agp slots.
[01:59] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> thx
[01:59] <sciboy> amias: Plus i don't have a copy of windows. =P
[01:59] <Doxa> tovella: crap... that other guy told me that this is what he did and it worked for him
[01:59] <Doxa> and now he's offline.......
[02:00] <sciboy> amias: My only success since than had been with the 6.06 live cd.
[02:00] <tovella> Doxa: again, given the current state of your partition table, i think recovery is almost impossible.
[02:00] <Nesco> is Feisty Fawn released yet?
[02:00] <amias> sciboy, what do your Xserver logs say ( the newest of /var/log/Xorg.*.log)
[02:01] <Doxa> several recovery softwares I've found though claim that they work fine even if the partition table is nonexistant
[02:01] <tovella> Nesco: to more days.
[02:01] <tovella> Nesco: *2*
[02:01] <fiery_cleric> muszek: reading first article...
[02:01] <Nesco> k, thanks
[02:01] <tovella> Doxa: try em.
[02:01] <amias> Doxa, tried parted magic ? - http://partedmagic.com/
[02:01] <muszek> fiery_cleric: thanks for an update ;)
[02:02] <alex_> Hi an alle
[02:02] <ideogram> anyone do any video editing with Kino?
[02:02] <muszek> fiery_cleric: it would be great if you could help that guy on ubuntuforums (if you know anything on the topic, off course)
[02:02] <sciboy> amias: IO errors, unable to initialise the device, no screens found. The usual. =)
[02:02] <YogSothoth> if #ubuntu@irc.ubuntu.com is a mirror of #ubuntu@irc.freenode.org
[02:02] <ideogram> I can't get it to import my vob files
[02:02] <sciboy> amias: Like i said, it appears the error is happening outside of X.
[02:02] <Assim> !.top
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <amias> sciboy, feed it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  and send me the link , also do the same with dmesg
[02:03] <YogSothoth> sorry, if #ubuntu@irc.ubuntu.com is a mirror of #ubuntu@irc.freenode.net, is irc.ubuntu.com a mirror of irc.freenode.net? I mean, are all channels on both servers, the same channels?
[02:03] <zootm> yogSothoth - yes, they're all the same network
[02:03] <zootm> ...i think
[02:03] <YogSothoth> oh ok
[02:03] <zootm> ...maybe
[02:03] <zootm> ;)
[02:03] <Nesco> does that mean #gentoo@irc.ubuntu.com exists too?
[02:03] <zootm> should do
[02:04] <DVS01> YogSothoth
[02:04] <DVS01> check /links
[02:04] <Assim> freenode is the main
[02:04] <YogSothoth> I tried with #debian and it's a clone too
[02:04] <YogSothoth> ok so irc.ubuntu.com is just an aliases
[02:04] <DVS01> they may just be on the same irc network
[02:04] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help ?
[02:04] <sciboy> amias: I already walked through it and did the research, plus i'll have to reconfigure my xorg.conf file before i can give you proper error messages.
[02:05] <Gruelius> i needs helps
[02:05] <Gruelius> lots of it
[02:05] <YogSothoth> This is confusing because I have one entry for each in my WChat
[02:05] <Assim> only time the become different channels is if theres a netsplit and I havent seen one of thoes in a long time
[02:05] <amias> YogSothoth, try 'dig irc.ubuntu.com' for the answer
[02:05] <YogSothoth> *XChat
[02:05] <zootm> ha, well, worry not
[02:05] <zootm> they are all the same
[02:05] <sciboy> amias: Considering the circumstances you may be right that the bios needs flashing.
[02:05] <amias> sciboy, that is very rare
[02:06] <sciboy> amias: Did i mention my computers bios was corrupted and had to be restored?
[02:06] <bronson> you from where sciboy?
[02:06] <fiery_cleric> muszek: well yeah i've never used wireless mouse/keyboard before so i am not much help ... but maybe that guy should find the vendor/product id of the device when he plugs it in and then searching on http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to see if it is supported under linux
[02:06] <jrib> !offtopic | bronson
[02:06] <ubotu> bronson: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <sciboy> bronson, What's the relevance?
[02:07] <Gruelius> Looks like im back to windows for a while again.. sigh
[02:07] <Gruelius> seeya all
[02:07] <fiery_cleric> muszek: he can find those ids from /proc/bus/usb/devices
[02:07] <Hoxzer> does somebody here know if cinerella can edit dv2 files?
[02:07] <bronson> i wnt to know only
[02:07] <Gruelius> Hoxzer have you got kino to capture from firewire?
[02:07] <Gruelius> from a dvcam
[02:07] <Hoxzer> Gruelius: :P I prefer just dvgrab
[02:08] <bronson> put ur bbreast in an exzos pipe..
[02:08] <Hoxzer> capture is done...
[02:08] <Pici> bronson: ?
[02:08] <bronson> haha i love to do it myself
[02:09] <jrib> bronson: this channel is for support with ubuntu
[02:09] <Gruelius> is dvgrab command line?
[02:09] <bronson> anyone want to join playing with me
[02:09] <muszek> fiery_cleric: thanks a lot!
[02:09] <sciboy> amias: All the results i turned up on the errors had to do with vm allocation on SLI rigs or just random enough to be inconclusive, i've been at it the past 2 days straight.
[02:09] <Pici> bronson: Go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to play, this channel is only for support.
[02:10] <Betzefer> can i upgrade fom 7.04 beta to final ?
[02:10] <dooglus> Betzefer: not yet
[02:10] <jrib> Betzefer: yeah, just dist-upgrade when it is released and make sure you have -desktop
[02:10] <imon9> hi Doxa....are u still there?
[02:10] <Betzefer> cool
[02:10] <kolpoooo> r u sure
[02:10] <dooglus> Betzefer: but you can put ur bbreast in an exzos pipe
[02:10] <Betzefer> i can use the automatde system
[02:10] <Betzefer> ?
[02:11] <imon9> just want to know if everything works out fine?
[02:11] <Pici> Betzefer: Yes, it will go automatically through the update-manager with the rest of your updates.
[02:11] <kolpoooo> it`s safe??
[02:12] <imon9> hi...i am having funny problem with my laptop soundcard Realtek ac97, anybody know why it has this hissing sound?
[02:12] <dooglus> kolpoooo: it`s not safe..  u might bburn yr bbreast
[02:12] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:12] <kolpoooo> wat???
[02:12] <franciss> what da hell bronson said.. i beg..
[02:12] <Resister> imon9 i have the same one i'd guess, and no no problems at all :S
[02:12] <Pici> kolpoooo: Safe doing what upgrading?
[02:13] <franciss> hey bronson i want to join you
[02:13] <dooglus> franciss: 14:09 -!- bronson [n=knoppix@60.49.175.114]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[02:13] <kolpoooo> taht up date manager
[02:13] <Assim> heh i'm gonna try update on rls and if it borks i'll just del ext3 partiton with partition magic and try linux in another 5 years when it might actualy be user friendly
[02:13] <imon9> resister....does it work spontaneously after u setup ubuntu? which ubuntu u using? are u on a laptop?
[02:14] <kolpoooo> nope
[02:15] <DVS01> where can i downoad ubuntu 7?
[02:15] <kolpoooo> yes
[02:15] <kolpoooo> same witm me
[02:15] <Resister> imon9: yep, it works spontaneously, i'm an Edgy Eft user and the last one is also positive ;) I'm on a laptop (Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo)
[02:16] <kolpoooo> can any 1 tell wat is wifi???
[02:16] <psyko_free> hi
[02:17] <kolpoooo> ii
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KKDKKDKAJFDJFJF
[02:17] <psyko_free> i would you ike ton configure my iptables but im newbie ^^
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KJFKFJD
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KDKDK
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KJJF
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KKJKJF
[02:17] <dooglus> CICAKMANG: you're going to get banned
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> K
[02:17] <kolpoooo> how this guy??
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> ABCDE
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> CDFBDKDK
[02:17] <CICAKMANG> KKKD
[02:17] <dooglus> he's 'bronson'
[02:17] <Juhaz> !ops
[02:17] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[02:18] <CICAKMANG> KDK
[02:18] <dooglus> CIC Betzefer: but you can put ur bbreast in an exzos pipe
[02:18] <imon9> resister: good for u...i am on a laptop TWINHEAD..wonder if u heard before (taiwanese brand) used dapper, edgy and fiesty but doesnt work nicely
[02:19] <gerry_> hello folks
[02:19] <Resister> @imon9 :( yep I don't trust all this chinese stuff anyway :P
[02:19] <imon9> resister: i updated to alsa 1.4rc3 but no good...but the sound problem is gone is i do "speaker-test" and play a sound file simultaneously
[02:19] <imon9> i wonder what is realls wrong
[02:19] <isaac> hey guys, I'm looking for a good ASP editor, anything you can suggest I use?
[02:19] <gerry_> hello
[02:19] <DVS01> is ubuntu 7 available for download?
[02:19] <gerry_> how about beryl support now?
[02:19] <imon9> resister: i have no choice..it is cheap..and i am cheap (still a student)
[02:20] <jrib> DVS01: final release has not been made, but beta is available
[02:20] <Resister> @imon9: is there a difference between playing an ogg-file and let's say a wma file?
[02:20] <DVS01> jrib: whats teh diff between beta and herd?
[02:20] <Assim> since hardware suport for linux or ubuntu for that matter is limited is there a list of hardware that is recomended and 100% working ?
[02:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what i need to install so i can burn AudioCD from mp3 file with Gnome Baker????
[02:21] <jrib> DVS01: beta comes later so in theory it should be more stable
[02:21] <RickJones> how do you execute a rpm file with edgy ?
[02:21] <jrib> !rpm | RickJones
[02:21] <ubotu> RickJones: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:21] <DVS01> jrib: ah. i'm not familiar with the term 'herd-5' what does it mean?
[02:21] <jrib> RickJones: what are you trying to install?
[02:21] <pelican> xcfghxfg
[02:21] <RickJones> xwinwrap for beryl
[02:21] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what i need to install so i can burn AudioCD from mp3 file with Gnome Baker????
[02:22] <kalon33> DVS01: herd-5 mean the 5th alpha release of Feisty Fawn
[02:22] <jrib> DVS01: the first 5 (?) herds were the alpha releases, the dev team just likes giving names like that.  Each release has a different name for the alpha releases
[02:22] <RickJones> anyone her egood with gnome ?
[02:22] <DVS01> ahh
[02:22] <moDumass> hey all, where would i get the beryl 3d window plugin
[02:22] <DVS01> well, time to beta test =D
[02:22] <DVS01> moDumass: check out #ubuntu-effects
[02:22] <RickJones> i tried to install kde last night, and now i have gnome desktop with kde application and system names, and things are not working correctly
[02:22] <DVS01> read topic.. its how i installed beryl
[02:22] <kalon33> jrib: : yes, 5, because the 6th was cancelled
[02:22] <DVS01> (topic in #ubuntu-effects)
[02:23] <kalon33> jrib , DVS01 : we are in RC test now, Final testing for the release on 19th April
[02:24] <DVS01> is the rc test available for download?
[02:24] <imon9> resister: no differentce btw different format (i thouhgt of that before) but there is sometime different when i play high quality track (higher bit rate, it sound good) low quality (which sound ok in XP but terribly distorted noise in the backgournd when in ubuntu)
[02:25] <kalon33> DVS01:  yes
[02:25] <DVS01> cool. where do i get it?
[02:25] <imon9> suspected harddisk static, turned out not.. suspected my wificard inteference, turn out not
[02:25] <kalon33> DVS01: I send you the link in private room
[02:25] <DVS01> ok
[02:25] <imon9> it can be fix if i restart alsasound, but i want them to be able to play nicely during startup anyway
[02:26] <Resister> @imon9: hmm never had that problem.. lol ,, what media player do you use anyway? i use amarok for everything, sometimes XMMS, they both work fine
[02:27] <knix_> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu server 6.06 to feisty server?  If so how?
[02:27] <imon9> tried: all kinds (including gstreamer based totem, xine totme, mplayer, realplay, vlc...etc)
[02:27] <Resister> lol :S
[02:27] <imon9> yes,,i use amarok too...still same
[02:28] <sciboy> Back in a bit, need to get the exact model etc.
[02:28] <imon9> nevermind......  i suspected now that the soundcard setting is wrong somewhere
[02:28] <tovella> imon9: do you have a mic connected?
[02:28] <Resister> imon9: have you tried using other distributives? i've had mandriva free 2007 for some time.. worked fine :P
[02:28] <imon9> coz i believe it might have been caused by my modem sound generated
[02:28] <kalon33> DVS01: I've problems with private messages, I restart kopete and give it to you
[02:28] <imon9> i wonder if there is such possibility but no idea how to fix them
[02:29] <tovella> imon9: probably is possible.  i get wierd hissing when certain things pop-up on my tv.
[02:30] <imon9> tovella: yes i hav a internel mic
[02:30] <imon9> tovella: i mute the mic output already, but doesnt help
[02:31] <tovella> imon9: my mic setting is muted, but it still pics up sound.
[02:31] <imon9> tovella; did u fixed ur problem?
[02:31] <Resister> imon9: but why don't you use windows XP anyway? ok it's slower than linux but it at least works
[02:31] <jrib> DVS01: you can download the beta at releases.ubuntu.com
[02:31] <DVS01> yup
[02:31] <jrib> DVS01: you can also upgrade to it if you prefer
[02:32] <imon9> hahaha...well, reason why i am here? i just wanna try out new horizon :p windows CP works fine for me,,it boots max 37sec with everything working ..ubutntu boots at 52 max.
[02:32] <tovella> imon9: i unplugged my external mic...as for sound hissing sound from TV banners coming through PC sound system - not fixed.
[02:32] <imon9> i can call myself expert in XP but i can;t say so in linux
[02:33] <roda> imon9, read this http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2114115,00.asp
[02:33] <Resister> imon9 yep xp is much more user friendly... in linux you have to configure a lot of things yourself
[02:33] <imon9> tovella; can u try runnnig speaker-test (until the sound from tv banner appear once, then terminate the speaker-test in terminal) and see if the weird hissing gone after that?
[02:33] <kane77> hi, in reconfiguring xserver-xorg do I need to specify the amount of memory shared for graphics card? (I have on-board graphics)
[02:34] <VSpike> kane77: I think it's usually not needeed.  Normally it can be detected.
[02:34] <felixhummel> what (command line) tool do I need to view the encoding of a movie file?
[02:35] <kane77> VSpike, and if I should set it does it need to be precise?
[02:35] <VSpike> felixhummel: I think file will do that
[02:35] <kalon33> DVS01: it's ok with the links ?
[02:35] <VSpike> file is great :)
[02:35] <VSpike> should give you info on most file types
[02:35] <VSpike> kane77: I'm really not sure, sorry
[02:35] <jrib> felixhummel: mplayer -identify  is one way
[02:35] <tovella> imon9: i'll try that when i get my TV re-connected.
[02:36] <imon9> tovelli: u can even try this command to fix the strange sound: sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[02:36] <felixhummel> thanks, VSpike and jrib
[02:36] <imon9> i know it fix it for me, but i hate to do it everytime when ubuntu start
[02:36] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what i need to install so i can burn AudioCD from mp3 file with Gnome Baker????someone???
[02:36] <imon9> resister: i like add new knowledge about computer, that why now i learning linux
[02:36] <tovella> imon9: why not make a script do it?
[02:37] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !mp3
[02:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <kane77> VSpike, np
[02:37] <kane77> VSpike, thx anyway
[02:37] <kalon33> sorry, is anyone know a dvb-kernel repository which build correctly with Feisty ?
[02:37] <kalon33> because the one I had doesn't build anymore...
[02:37] <Dybber> Why is ntfs-3g not installed as default in Feisty Fawn? Does it violate any patents/license stuff? Its stable right?
[02:37] <imon9> trovelli: the thing is, in xubuntu, after i ran the commant..it change my xfce-apperence a bit until i reset them by running anther command
[02:38] <mrtimdo1> Hi! Anyone know of a simple menu bar applet to just create menus of applications. Maybe something a bit like a drawer but with text selections as well as icons?
[02:38] <fiery_cleric> !info serpentine | cyber_brain_mfkg
[02:38] <ubotu> cyber_brain_mfkg: serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[02:38] <bob_> anyone using gossip IM? how can i set 'invisible' status on ICQ trasport?
[02:38] <jrib> Dybber: it's in universe
[02:38] <acalvo> hi
[02:38] <kalon33> bob_: using gossip, but not ICQ, sorry...
[02:38] <acalvo> is it possible to have on the same machine a ubuntu and ubuntu64 installed? if so, what is the best way to handle grup installation?
[02:39] <Resister> imon9 yep same here :)
[02:39] <imon9> btw...anyone know what nice "video editing program" for ubuntu(i tried pitivi, kino) but they lack options
[02:39] <moDumass> DVS01 has anyone ever had that 3d window layer plugin? or is it only on youtube videos
[02:39] <fiery_cleric> youtube really seems to help ubuntu's popularity ....
[02:40] <yasi8h> hi acalvo
[02:40] <chenier> Hola
[02:40] <acalvo> s/grup/grub
[02:41] <lokomis> I've a Ndiswrapper / wusb54g issue if anyone wouldn't mind sparing the time.  I'm running 7.04 server and still rather noobish but I know enough that I've my USB Drive mounted and was able to CP the ndiswrapper tarball and the drivers into /home/user/.
[02:41] <tovella> imon9: maybe you would like Cinelerra for video editing?
[02:41] <lokomis> The main points are: a) No apt-get (thus no build-essentials and other needed packages).  b) I'm can run sudo ./ndiswrapper from the /ndiswrapper1.42/utils folder & it accepts the WUSB54G v1 driver, but I'm lost from here on.  I think I need to ./ndiswrapper -m (modprobe?) and I should have a connection?  I realize Ndiswrapper and the drivers won't actually be installed from this method but if it enables the connection, I can use ap
[02:41] <lokomis> t-get and do the install properly.  Or that is my theory anyway x_x.
[02:42] <lokomis> I link to a dummied down tutorial should suffice but I'm just not too keen on any commands I may be missing or any other files that would require editing.
[02:42] <lokomis> A* link to...
[02:43] <mg> rofl http://www.planet-liebe.de/vbb/showthread.php?t=175274
[02:43] <mg> oh sorry
[02:43] <mg> wrong tab
[02:43] <imon9> tovella: i want to try cinerella, just that it is a headache to install
[02:44] <imon9> tovella: cineralla had too many dipendicy that i lack to build from its source...
[02:44] <imon9> tovella: u have easier way to install it?
[02:45] <tovella> imon9: trying to remember where there's a .deb file
[02:45] <tarelerulz> I can't get the djvu viewer to work when I install it from synaptic
[02:45] <imon9> tovella:i didnt; ifnd the deb file
[02:46] <imon9> now i found it in the forums...thanks anyway
[02:46] <Khoix> i need some n00b help here
[02:46] <tovella> imon9: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188264
[02:46] <tatters> I new to ubuntu / Linux ,,been using feisty beta, now when it becomes officially released do I have to download and install new image or will this beta be updated through apt-get and no need to reinstall?
[02:47] <h3x> How can i install drivers for my sound card (Nvidia MCP15)
[02:47] <Khoix> how do I set the permission for read-only file systems?
[02:47] <kane77> installing ubuntu-desktop will give me gnome? (Im on xfce)
[02:47] <Pici> kane77: Yes.
[02:47] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[02:47] <fiery_cleric> !info Cinelerra
[02:47] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:47] <Pici> !cinelerra
[02:47] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[02:48] <imon9> thanks ubotu
[02:48] <fiery_cleric> u abusing the bots ?
[02:48] <kestaz> !windows
[02:48] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:48] <fiery_cleric> :)
[02:49] <Khoix> i need some n00b help here
[02:49] <Khoix> how do I set the permission for read-only file systems?
[02:49] <tatters> I noob ,what help :)
[02:49] <ryeth> does anybody know how to use the terminal to find out what my directories are?
[02:49] <lokomis> dir
[02:50] <ryeth> well, when i do that it says "gnome_sudoku"
[02:50] <ryeth> why would it say sudoku?
[02:50] <Khoix> use cd to move around the directories, ryeth
[02:50] <fiery_cleric> Khoix: what permission?
[02:50] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: my ntfs partitions
[02:50] <ryeth> i learned the cd command and all, but i don't know what all my directories are and how to use them yet
[02:50] <ryeth> sorry haha
[02:50] <Resister> lol @ubotu xD
[02:51] <fiery_cleric> Khoix:  so u want other users apart from r00t to read the partitions?
[02:51] <DVS01> whats up with the ## channels?
[02:51] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: I don't even know how to use it with root, actually :)  sudo didn't work
[02:51] <DVS01> #windows and ##windows ?
[02:51] <Mononoke_> Hello newbie here I need help on running and compiling stuff =\
[02:51] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: I tried to delete something on it and it said read-only
[02:51] <Resister> yeehaw just updated opera to version 9.20 lol :D
[02:51] <IdleOne> DVS01: if you /j #windows it will redirect you to ##windows
[02:52] <DVS01> yeah i noticed.. whats up with that?
[02:52] <Resister> /join #windows :D
[02:52] <IdleOne> DVS01: Im guessing it is a security measure of some sort
[02:52] <fiery_cleric> Khoix: right read only is the way the file system is mounted ... under linux ntfs is mounted read only coz the ability to write to ntfs isnt stable yet AFAIK ....
[02:52] <imon9> oh ya...tovelli, resister, ubotu: do u play with web-server (meaning apache, mySQL, php?)
[02:52] <DVS01> i was told in there
[02:52] <DVS01> ## for unofficial channels
[02:52] <tarelerulz> ryeth I think you should look linux basic command to get good heads up on the most comman commands that you will need to know
[02:52] <DVS01> ##windows isnt owned by microsoft. otherwise it would be #windows
[02:53] <IdleOne> Mononoke_: there are plenty of ops here
[02:53] <Resister> @imon9: no, but I would like to try it out one day
[02:53] <DVS01> but microsoft is too good for irc support.. they'd rather charge per minute on phone =P
[02:53] <tovella> imon9: yes, all of the above.
[02:53] <imon9> i had them installed in ubuntu, i want to know if there is anyway to configure them without using the conf files?
[02:53] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[02:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:53] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: so, do that pretty much mean if I download something to my ext partition, i can't get it over to my ntfs partition?
[02:53] <ryeth> well, i read some of the basic commands, but i can't find nothing on what my personal directories are, like how to find out what they are
[02:53] <ryeth> u know what i mean?
[02:53] <moginspace> How can I find out the names of my partitions on my linux drive?
[02:53] <imon9> sorry ubotu ;D
[02:53] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: without ternal media, that is
[02:53] <tovella> imon9: just so you know, ubotu is a "bot".
[02:53] <Khoix> fiery_cleric: external*
[02:54] <Svish> !header files
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about header files - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <imon9> haha...OMG :p i am fooled
[02:54] <tarelerulz> You  personal for you are under home.
[02:54] <Svish> what do I apt-get install to get the build and header files for my current linux kernel?
[02:54] <sciboy> Damn it, the bios is for windows.
[02:54] <DVS01> yay
[02:54] <fiery_cleric> Khoix: yeah... if u have some space u can use a fat32 partition on your hdd to transfer data from linux to windows ...
[02:54] <DVS01> terabyte hard drives exist now
[02:54] <DVS01> http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/17/hitachi_7k1000_terabyte_hard_drive/
[02:54] <IdleOne> ryeth: sudo aptitude install tree . then in terminal type tree and it will show you a tree view of directories
[02:54] <SonicChao> Can I upgrade to edgy with the software updates? :|
[02:54] <tovella> sciboy: who makes the BIOS?
[02:55] <ryeth> okay cool, thanks man
[02:55] <sciboy> tovella: Leadtek, The graphics card is a Winfast A340T
[02:55] <IdleOne> !upgrade > SonicChao    (SonicChao, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:55] <SonicChao> Okay IdleOne :D
[02:55] <tarelerulz> It took me while to understand the linux file system myself ryeth
[02:55] <sciboy> Anyone know how i can run this utility without installing windows on my machine? I mean, i've heard of BartPE or what ever it is.
[02:55] <tovella> sciboy: phoenix recently did some similar stuff with some of it's BIOSs - Windows Vista, only.
[02:55] <ryeth> haha yeah, i've only had it for about 2 weeks now and not a lot of time spent with it yet
[02:56] <ryeth> but i'm learning fast
[02:56] <ryeth> i can't seem to get off my xbox 360 enough to get on here :)
[02:56] <tarelerulz> nice ryeth what games you playing
[02:56] <IdleOne> ryeth: install ubuntu on your xbox
[02:56] <ryeth> gears of war mostly
[02:56] <ryeth> i have like 25 games though
[02:56] <fiery_cleric> anyone got a ps3 with linux on it?
[02:57] <ryeth> i can install ubuntu on my 360?
[02:57] <sciboy> tovella: Bugger, but this is outdated, thing is my card hasn't been working since my system froze and took out my motherboards bios and linux partition, i think the graphics card might've gone with it.
[02:57] <tarelerulz> Gentoox is the best linux I had seen for the xbox
[02:57] <burzum> hi
[02:57] <SonicChao> gksu "update-manager -c" ??
[02:57] <kestaz> what is better windows or linux ?
[02:57] <IdleOne> ryeth: google Im sure you can
[02:57] <burzum> how can i upgrade now from edgy?
[02:57] <SonicChao> I know to put that in the command line
[02:57] <ryeth> sweet, that would be pimp as hell if i could
[02:57] <SonicChao> But will there be any...er...errors?
[02:57] <IdleOne> !upgrade > burzum    (burzum, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:57] <sciboy> tovella: So i'm going to try flashing it, but the tool is for Win 98 -> Win XP
[02:57] <tarelerulz> I have read up on linux on the 360 and I have not heard of anyone put anything linux on it
[02:57] <ryeth> tarelerulz, do u have a 360?
[02:57] <IdleOne> SonicChao: possibly but probably not
[02:58] <tarelerulz> I have friend that does and I have played it alot
[02:58] <SonicChao> IdleOne, What kinds of errors could happen? D:
[02:58] <burzum> ok, thanks
[02:58] <ryeth> okay, if u get a chance add me...my gamer name is ryeth
[02:58] <tovella> sciboy: perhaps you can find a diskette version of the flash program?
[02:58] <moginspace> So, how can I find names like sda(1,0) and hda(0,0), all these help sites keep telling me to replace their generic codes with whatever my harddrive is, but how can I find out what the partitions are and which one is 1, which is 2 etc
[02:58] <tarelerulz> I do have a old xbox that is hacked . That was my first linux computer
[02:58] <ryeth> i will play u in whatever..
[02:58] <orbin> kestaz: might get a biased answer in here. ;)
[02:58] <ryeth> i just like to get on there and have some fun
[02:58] <orbin> kestaz: besides, this is a support channel, that's offtopic
[02:58] <IdleOne> SonicChao: nuclear meltdown, headaches and cravings for peanut butter
[02:58] <ryeth> guitar hero II is the s   h   it
[02:58] <sciboy> tovella: Nope, haven't been able to find anything, although it's been tricky as hell doing it through links2.
[02:58] <SonicChao> hoshi. :P
[02:59] <SonicChao> Ok...
[02:59] <tarelerulz> I have play gears of war a lot
[02:59] <freez> i have nvidia nfoce network controller as network adpater got problem breezy wont detecte the hardware i searched in nvidia.com but no supported nforce drivers for ubuntu any suggestion are welcome thanks
[02:59] <sciboy> tovella: Just found out why i've never used images for links without underlying text. =|
[02:59] <IdleOne> !nvidia > freez    (freez, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:59] <freez> ok IdleOne thanks
[03:00] <IdleOne> !upgrade > freez    (freez, see the private message from Ubotu) you really should upgrade
[03:01] <tarelerulz> SO any one know anything about a good djvu reader
[03:01] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[03:02] <sciboy> Anyone had experience with BartPE?
[03:02] <muszek> any idea where to find ubuntu login sound file?
[03:03] <fiery_cleric> muszek: maybe /usr/share/sounds
[03:03] <muszek> fiery_cleric: thanks again :)
[03:03] <IdleOne> gotta run have a good day Ubuntites :)
[03:04] <fiery_cleric> muszek: no problem... who said the linux community wasnt helpful :)
[03:04] <Svish> Should I install linux-headers for 386 or 686 when I have an Intel Centrino?
[03:04] <muszek> fiery_cleric: lol :)
[03:05] <fiery_cleric> Svish: i guess it depends on what kernel u have installed
[03:05] <Svish> where do I find that out?
[03:05] <tovella> sciboy: RU still there?
[03:05] <fiery_cleric> svish: uname -a
[03:05] <Svish> its a more or less fresh install of ubuntu
[03:05] <sword__> i have downloaded a folder with win32 codecs..how do i install it?
[03:06] <im0n9> tovelli: u still there?
[03:06] <sciboy> tovella: Now i am
[03:06] <fiery_cleric> sword__: for mplayer ?
[03:06] <tarelerulz> you just copy all the codec from the win32 in to folder called win32 so mplayer and I think xine can see it
[03:06] <tovella> which leadtek motherboard?
[03:06] <sword__> how do i install win32 codecs from a folder?
[03:06] <luca> hi everybody
[03:07] <luca> does someone here know how ubuntu runs on an Asus F3P?
[03:07] <ReverseBlade> !win32
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <sciboy> tovella: What's up?
[03:07] <ReverseBlade> !codecs
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <sciboy> tovella: Not motherboard, graphics card, a Winfast A340T
[03:07] <tarelerulz> sword it is easy I do it all the time
[03:07] <Svish> fiery_cleric: 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT ?
[03:07] <sword__> yes for mplayer...
[03:07] <tovella> oh, i thought you were trying to flash a leadtek mb.
[03:07] <tarelerulz> win32 comes in something ike .gz right
[03:08] <chytraeus> anyone, why can't open the file /var/cache/apt/archives?
[03:08] <tovella> sciboy: oh, i thought you were trying to flash a leadtek mb.
[03:08] <fiery_cleric> Svish: so 686  headers then i guess ... chose the one that matches closest to that line u pasted
[03:08] <sword__> yes its a .gz, i have extracted that
[03:08] <Svish> ok
[03:08] <Svish> fiery_cleric: thanks :)
[03:08] <tarelerulz> open it wish ark
[03:08] <fiery_cleric> Svish: np
[03:08] <sciboy> tovella: Nope, the motherboard had a second bios and recovered on its own. =)
[03:09] <sciboy> tovella: The graphics card is a different story though. =/
[03:09] <tovella> sciboy: felt kinda sorry for you (links).  found some diskette flash updates & was going to send them to you.
[03:09] <orbin> chytraeus: it's not a file, it's a directory
[03:09] <luca> anybody on an asus laptop?
[03:09] <tarelerulz> Then pick where you want to extract the win32 folder itself that that way you get whole thing and just not the codecs
[03:10] <sword__> how do i install win32 for mplayer from its folder
[03:10] <sword__> ?
[03:10] <sciboy> tovella: Well that was mighty kind of you. =)
[03:10] <tarelerulz> I don't think mplayer comes with the win32
[03:10] <tarelerulz> Not that I have seen
[03:10] <tovella> sciboy: i know using links can be a real pain when we become so accustomed to more full featured browsers.
[03:10] <tarelerulz> and I install mplayer all the time
[03:10] <dooglus> I'm trying to profile some code, ie. check how long it takes to run.  The problem is, it gets slower each time I run it - I'm guessing it's because the CPU gets slower each time.
[03:10] <sword__> i have downloaded a folder with win32 codecs...
[03:10] <dooglus> is there some way to check the current CPU frequency?
[03:11] <tarelerulz> look  in the README FILE
[03:11] <samk> I
[03:11] <sipior> dooglus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:11] <dooglus> sipior: that file doesn't change at all for me
[03:11] <tarelerulz> what it said about the binarys
[03:11] <sword__> no READ ME file, only dll acm files
[03:11] <sipior> dooglus: strange, it always has for me
[03:11] <dooglus> sipior: I copied it, then diff it, and see: Files /tmp/cpu and /proc/cpuinfo are identical
[03:12] <leagris> sipior, cpuinfo only gives boot time cpu frequency. Inaccurate on laptop
[03:12] <sipior> leagris: as i said sir, that was not my previous experience
[03:12] <Svish> dooglus: you can put a thing on your panel called CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor. but I dont remember how I got it there.. it might be through "Add to panel" or some other of the options you get when you right click the top panel
[03:12] <dooglus> leagris: it's giving the maximum rated freq correctly, but it doesn't change.  can I find the current freq. somewhere?
[03:13] <dooglus> Svish: I'd like to be able to read it progamatically, so I can include it in my scripted tests
[03:13] <sciboy> tovella: Oh i'm fine with text-based it's just these sites i keep going into use scaling tables and with only so many characters wide to work with it's more guess work than knowing what i'm doing.
[03:13] <Svish> dooglus:  at least thats how I see it now
[03:13] <Svish> ah..
[03:13] <sword__> hey dooglus, my CPU frequency changes continously depending on load
[03:13] <dooglus> sword__: how can you tell?
[03:13] <Svish> then I have no clue :P
[03:13] <sword__> i have the folder on my computer
[03:13] <tarelerulz> Sword are you compiling mplayer or use installing it with synaptic ?
[03:14] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[03:14] <dooglus> sword__: was that an answer to my question?
[03:14] <sword__> i have CPU frequency on the top panel
[03:14] <sword__> it changes when i open an application
[03:14] <dooglus> sword__: ok.  I'm running xfce4.  I don't think I have that option
[03:14] <sword__> otherwise stays low
[03:14] <sword__> no idea bout tht
[03:15] <NDRES> #UBUNTU-ES
[03:15] <tovella> sciboy: i wonder what links, or elinks will do with web2.0 enabled sites.
[03:15] <dooglus> sciboy: links doesn't suppose javascript
[03:15] <sword__> can u even see the CPU freq scaling monitor on the top panel??
[03:15] <dooglus> sword__: I can't even see the top panel
[03:16] <chytraeus> orbin: well, i cd /var/cache/apt/archives, then ls -l. the output is: -rw-r----- 1 root root    0 2007-04-16 10:26 lock drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-04-16 10:33 partial. How can I unlock this so synaptic will work again?
[03:16] <sword__> u mean u cant see the 'Applications', 'Places' and the time and all those things???
[03:16] <dooglus> sword__: no, I don't have any of those.  I'm running XFCE4, not GNOME
[03:16] <im0n9> tovelli: does cinerella can import flv video files? i tried but nothing seems to work?? :/
[03:16] <cyberix> How can I find all packages that depend on a specific package?
[03:17] <Rocky_Balboa> lve picciotti
[03:17] <dooglus> cyberix: apt-cache show <pkg>
[03:17] <dooglus> cyberix: or ask http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:17] <fiery_cleric> sword__: default dir for codecs in upstream mplayer is /usr/local/lib/codecs/ ... dont know about unbutu's package tho
[03:17] <sword__> but there is no folder called codecs in that location
[03:18] <sword__> and i cant even create one
[03:18] <cyberix> dooglus: The other way around
[03:18] <tarelerulz> the ubuntu one is /usr/local/lib/win32 that
[03:18] <schorsch> connect quakenet
[03:18] <sciboy> Crap, don't have an installation cd on me so Bart PE is out of the question. =/
[03:18] <sciboy> I've run out of options. =(
[03:18] <tarelerulz> sword you have to make folder called codecs
[03:18] <dooglus> cyberix: apt-cache show-pkg ?
[03:18] <orbin> chytraeus: i have those two things in there two.  what exactly is the problem with synaptic?
[03:18] <nexous> How do I find out the IP of my webserver?
[03:18] <dooglus> cyberix: without the -
[03:18] <dooglus> nexous: dig it
[03:18] <sword__> the option to create folder is disabled
[03:19] <nexous> dooglus: what's that?
[03:19] <samk> In the terminal what command lets me install things
[03:19] <dooglus> nexous: "dig www.mywebserver.com"
[03:19] <cyberix> dooglus: Thanks
[03:19] <tarelerulz> You can do mkdir command and make the folder
[03:19] <tarelerulz> It has to be sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/win32 or /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:19] <chytraeus> orbin: keep getting this type of message -- Writing extended state information... Error!
[03:19] <chytraeus> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the clamd package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[03:19] <nexous> dooglus: Sorry, it's not a domain. It'd actually be more of a 'DEV Server'
[03:19] <samk> I mean one that gives me administrative rights
[03:20] <Svish> samk: sudo?
[03:20] <nexous> dooglus: actually would be my computers ip.
[03:20] <samk> Yea thats what I wanted thanks
[03:20] <Svish> nexous: ifconfig?
[03:20] <nexous> Svish: thanks.
[03:21] <Svish> woho, I helped two people!
[03:21] <fiery_cleric> nexous: or system->admin->network tools
[03:21] <Svish> :P
[03:21] <sword__> thanx tarelerulz !!
[03:21] <afd_> hi! I've changed my soundcard and now the volume keys on my keyboard don't work anymore, but the sound control from the traybar works. How can I fix this?
[03:21] <nexous> fiery_cle: okay.
[03:21] <moDumass> hey all, any idea what that sweet looking analog clock is that i see in so many ubuntu youtube clips
[03:21] <chytraeus> orbin: do you know how i can manually fix this package?
[03:21] <nexous> fiery_cle: thanks also.
[03:21] <orbin> chytraeus: one sec
[03:21] <moDumass> i cant find it in synapsis
[03:21] <dooglus> nexous: your web server's
[03:21] <samk> once I do sudo make install i get this make[1] : Entering directory `/home/sam/gcc-4.1.2'
[03:21] <samk> /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/local /usr/local
[03:21] <samk> cd: 5: can't cd to host-i686-pc-linux-gnu/fastjar
[03:21] <samk> make[1] : *** [install-fastjar]  Error 2
[03:21] <samk> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/sam/gcc-4.1.2'
[03:21] <samk> make: *** [install]  Error 2
[03:21] <dooglus> nexous: your web server's IP address is the same as the IP address of the computer it's running on...
[03:22] <sword__> now how do i gain permission to write on that folder???
[03:22] <nexous> dooglus: i knew that, I just didn't know how to figure that out before.
[03:22] <JiBEsH> Hi, I want to dl w32codecs from Medibuntu but it tells me that even if the package is in the database, he can't be installed cause of the version doesn't match ... Is there trouble with edgy 64 and w32codecs ?
[03:22] <DVS01> is there a way to have fullscreen opengl applications run without being hindered by beryl? beryl theoretically shouldn't be rendering anything at that point
[03:22] <fiery_cleric> samk: what are u trying to build?
[03:22] <samk> gcc
[03:23] <fiery_cleric> samk: why?
[03:23] <skunkworks> ?
[03:23] <samk> dont you need it to compile other stuff
[03:24] <orbin> chytraeus: when do you get that error?
[03:24] <fiery_cleric> samk: right but the nice people at ubuntu have already done that for u .... u can install a ubuntu package for gcc
[03:24] <tarelerulz> If I was you sword I would find  out what file manager you use and start it from terminal  something sudo file manager
[03:24] <dooglus> samk: what are you building gcc with?
[03:24] <|tom> lo folks, just wondering why the 6.10 desktop live boot doesnt use the cd as an aptitude source as default. Also, how can I add it? I cant find the string anywhere :/
[03:24] <samk> oh.........
[03:24] <JiBEsH> Hi, I want to dl w32codecs from Medibuntu but it tells me that even if the package is in the database, he can't be installed cause of the version doesn't match ... Is there trouble with edgy 64 and w32codecs ?
[03:24] <dooglus> samk: it's written in C - you'll need a C compiler to build it.  such as 'gcc' perhaps?
[03:25] <chytraeus> orbin: after i installed clamd with GDebi package installer. I had made the package with Alien from an rpm.
[03:25] <dooglus> samk: the thing to install is 'build-essential'
[03:25] <moDumass> im off, my ubuntu is happy, take care
[03:25] <samk> build essential?
[03:26] <CNU> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS <- what's LTS?
[03:26] <dooglus> samk: no, 'build-essential'
[03:26] <felixhummel> where is the PATH variable set (during boot i mean)?
[03:26] <dooglus> !info build-essential
[03:26] <Svish> samk: apt-get install build-essential
[03:26] <fiery_cleric> !packages
[03:26] <felixhummel> CNU, long time support
[03:26] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:26] <samk> long term support
[03:26] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:26] <tarelerulz> Did you read what I said  sword
[03:26] <CNU> okay thanks
[03:26] <leagris> dooglus, with tools related to ACPI. I have this on status bar with my laptop
[03:26] <afd_> hi! I've changed my soundcard and now the volume keys on my keyboard don't work anymore, but the sound control from the traybar works. How can I fix this?
[03:26] <orbin> chytraeus: was clamd installed successfully?
[03:27] <dooglus> samk: 'long term support' refers to how long the support is available for, not how long it takes to get a single answer through somebody's skill
[03:27] <dooglus> s/skill/skull/
[03:27] <sciboy>  /join #debian
[03:27] <sciboy> o_o
[03:27] <fiery_cleric> afd_: try system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[03:28] <sciboy> My bad.
[03:28] <Visti> Is there a decent DVD burning program that can make menus and stuff for Ubuntu (Preferably Gnome)
[03:28] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: thats a bit rough
[03:29] <bgrupe> Visti: I've had good experience with k3b
[03:29] <tarelerulz> What is the program called  visti?
[03:30] <leagris> dooglus, Let Them Suck ;d
[03:30] <chytraeus> orbin: it said no. however, it seems to be working ok. however, i keep getting that error even if I sudo apt-get -f install
[03:30] <Visti> Well, I figured that Gnomebaker wasn't gonna cut it with menus or .srts, unless I make it in another program first or something - I'll try k3b, though
[03:31] <kane77> Visti, i dont know if k3b could do that, although I have seen a program that you want, but I cant remember its name
[03:31] <tarelerulz> I have learned a lot sub formats
[03:31] <afd_> fiery_cleric: the problem is not of keys, they still work, even the onscreen indicator shows up. The problem is that there's no volume change. I've set the volume + channel for the systray volume control, but I don't know how to change what's used for those keys
[03:32] <Visti> Well, I'm gonna shop around a bit, I just thought some recommendations would be good to start off.
[03:32] <tarelerulz> Visti if you find anything cool let me know
[03:32] <Svish> Visti: Let me know if you find something great :) im interested too
[03:33] <Visti> Well, I already fonud Devede, which seems to have a nice GUI and some pretty good features for burning VCD and DVD Movies.
[03:33] <tarelerulz> where does the ubuntu edgy put qt libs?
[03:33] <fiery_cleric> afd_: have u tried right click on panel speaker ->  preferences ... change the device to control?
[03:34] <fiery_cleric> afd_: should be set to master
[03:34] <fiery_cleric> tarelerulz: probably /usr/lib ?
[03:35] <kritzstapf> afd_, ive got the same problem
[03:35] <Svish> Visti: Nice
[03:35] <seravitae> anyone got a  link to a howto for switching between qwerty and dvorak
[03:35] <tarelerulz> I am trying to compile this djvu viewer and and it don't see my qt libs
[03:35] <tatters> Does anyone what package is required to get GtkGLExt Python bindings ?
[03:35] <kritzstapf> fiery_cleric, the applet that shows up when using those keys seems not to be connected to the gome-panel one
[03:36] <tarelerulz> I try what it said for configure and tell it where to look
[03:36] <fiery_cleric> tarelerulz: you may need the -dev package for the qt libs
[03:36] <afd_> fiery_cleric: I've got no Master on my card, I've selected analog front and that works for the slider in the systray
[03:37] <afd_> fiery_cleric: but it doesn't work for the onscreen volume control (the thing that appears when using keys)
[03:37] <kritzstapf> afd_, CA0106 driver? ;)
[03:37] <afd_> kritzstapf: exactly
[03:37] <seravitae> testing
[03:37] <seravitae> bah, no dvorak.
[03:37] <fiery_cleric> afd_: ok ... have u set the sound card in system->preferences->sound
[03:37] <kritzstapf> afd_, welcome to the family :)
[03:38] <afd_> fiery_cleric: yeap, I even have system sounds for events such as click and so on
[03:38] <elcuco_> anyone subscribed to the ubuntu podcast?
[03:38] <afd_> kritzstapf: :-P
[03:38] <elcuco_> on my system it misses a lot of episodes
[03:38] <saudiLinux> how can i log in paltalk servers by gaim it was possible on version 1.5 but not 2.0 any idea?
[03:39] <afd_> kritzstapf: for how cheap it was. it's sure better then the onboard, which is very very noisy
[03:39] <numaan> Hello
[03:39] <kritzstapf> afd_, which one is it, the 24bit live?
[03:39] <orbin> chytraeus: i'm not certain but i think that error may be caused by a dodgy pckage install.  i'd try and remove clamd.  do you know about the clamav-daemon package?
[03:40] <tarelerulz> I hope I get the dev libqt installed right so I can get some djvu action on
[03:40] <numaan> I see this new feature on ubuntu website about Avahi that adds plug and play network support. I would like to know which package Avahi replaces? Samba?
[03:40] <afd_> kritzstapf: something like that, I think Audigy SE
[03:40] <orbin> chytraeus: perhaps that would be better than an alien'd rpm
[03:40] <afd_> very cheap ( ~ 30 USD)
[03:41] <numaan> and how does Avahi improves network support in Ubuntu 7.04 than 6.06?
[03:41] <rcmiv> I am having problems with a usb modem that periodically unregisters and then re-registers (from the kernel)
[03:41] <fiery_cleric> afd_: not sure then...
[03:41] <tikka> i have a question the amd 64 release of ubuntu.. does this work on the and turion 64 processor ?
[03:41] <rcmiv> has anyone experienced this?
[03:42] <tikka> amd*
[03:42] <Enverex> tikka, It works on any 32/64bit processor
[03:42] <knix_> Is there a powerpoint on Ubuntu.com that shows the benfits behind it?
[03:42] <tikka> Enverex, so its a 32bit build for amd ?
[03:42] <afd_> fiery_cleric: thanks anyway
[03:42] <Enverex> tikka, ... no
[03:42] <tikka> okeys, sorry.. confused
[03:42] <Enverex> tikka, It's a 32bit and 64bit processor that can run either 32bit Linux or x86_64 Linux
[03:43] <ircNewBIe> is there a way i can download the Feisty version today?
[03:43] <chytraeus> orbin: you are right. i was trying to get the latest version of clamav. anyway, when trying to uninstall I get The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:43] <rcmiv> Apr 17 09:00:59 Daisy kernel: [240323.346162]  usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 58
[03:43] <rcmiv> Apr 17 09:01:02 Daisy kernel: [240326.209902]  eth0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:07.2-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:e0:6f:33:e2:8b
[03:44] <orbin> chytraeus: what are you using to try and uninstall?
[03:44] <chytraeus> orbin: apt-get remove clamd
[03:44] <Svish> Visti: Devede dont seem to support making menus and stuff though?
[03:45] <Ferrixman> sorry guys
[03:45] <Ferrixman> how can i directly control the cpu speed? i have ubuntu 6.10 and a T2300 core
[03:45] <orbin> chytraeus: output of that command?  pastebin if more than 2 lines.
[03:46] <Visti> Svish: No, well - I haven't found one that supports menus yet, but it looked like the most featurepacked one so far in regard to movies.. I'm actually baffled that I haven't found a single DVD-burner that does menus - seems like such a standard feature
[03:46] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: man what does cpufreq-info give u ...
[03:46] <chytraeus> orbin: E: The package clamd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:46] <Svish> Visti: yeah, exactly =/
[03:46] <h3x0r_> hey how do i install the sound card drivers ?
[03:47] <Ferrixman> bash: cpufreq-info: command not found
[03:47] <seravitae> wierd i got scim working and i can type in japanese
[03:47] <seravitae> but changing keyboard layout from us english to dvorak doesnt change anything
[03:47] <im0n9> heloo..can someone tell me how do i know what sound engine is used in my current ubuntu? i installed alsa, but i want to make sure only alsa is used but not OSS
[03:49] <orbin> chytraeus: quick search shows ''dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq clamd' may work
[03:49] <Ferrixman> fiery_cleric, can you help me?
[03:49] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: maybe hold on
[03:49] <oldude67> is ubuntu hard to install a web cam on?
[03:50] <cdavis> can someone who is using beryl tell me how to get scale(expose) working?
[03:50] <danjah> hi guys, i've made a script called iptables.rules how do i get it to run?
[03:51] <danjah> hi guys, i've made a script called iptables.rules how do i get it to run?
[03:51] <chytraeus> orbin: do i type it exactly in the terminal: ''dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq clamd'?
[03:51] <orbin> chytraeus: without the quotes, yes.
[03:51] <tarelerulz> who every told me to find the lib dev for qt  is great
[03:52] <yellow_chicken> danjah: script for which app?
[03:52] <danjah> iptables
[03:52] <yellow_chicken> script for which shell
[03:52] <fiery_cleric> !info cpufrequtis | Ferrixman
[03:52] <tarelerulz> I can say this find what lib to install is hard as hell
[03:52] <ubotu> ferrixman: Package cpufrequtis does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:53] <fiery_cleric> !info cpufrequtils | Ferrixman
[03:53] <tarelerulz> The names are not so clear to as what they are and sometime to many option os bad too
[03:53] <ubotu> ferrixman: cpufrequtils: utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature. In component universe, is optional. Version 002-1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 176 kB
[03:53] <Ferrixman> so, do i have to install that package?
[03:54] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: yeah
[03:54] <Ferrixman> it is because i'd like to set frequency to max when i'm on AC and to scale it when i'm on battery
[03:55] <chytraeus> orbin: where is pastebin?
[03:55] <yellow_chicken> !pastebin
[03:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:55] <danjah> yellow_chicken ---> check PM
[03:56] <devilsreject> what up yall
[03:56] <yellow_chicken> danjah: PM?
[03:56] <Svish> "Install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel." WHat does that mean? I have now installed linux-headers and linux-source. What more do I need?? build-essential is also installed
[03:56] <danjah> http://od1.co.uk/iptables.rules
[03:56] <Ferrixman> analyzing CPU 0:
[03:56] <Ferrixman>   no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
[03:56] <Ferrixman> analyzing CPU 1:
[03:56] <Ferrixman>   no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
[03:57] <devilsreject> I have the recording program installed on ubuntu however im tryin to record micorphone and mp3 at the smae time its only picking up the micorphone any idea what i gotta do to change this in ubuntu
[03:57] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: that works on my mobile-p4 cpu ... i dont know much about this tho
[03:57] <disasm> devilsreject: you may be able to have volume for mic and mp3 both going to main mix, and if your soundcard supports it, capture the mix
[03:57] <William> hi, is there a xbuntu channel somewhere?
[03:58] <Ferrixman> i'm on a laptop
[03:58] <yellow_chicken> danjah: it looks like a bash script, just do 'bash iptable.rules'
[03:58] <sword__> i cant copy filec onto /usr/local/lib as it says i dont have rights...how do i change it?? iv been looking around fr solutions bt no help!!
[03:58] <knix_> William, yup #xuubntu
[03:58] <knix_> William, oppps #xubuntu
[03:58] <rcmiv> I am having problems with a usb modem that periodically unregisters and then re-registers (from the kernel)
[03:58] <danjah> yellow_chicken: i wrote that, what do i need to do to make it work?
[03:58] <rcmiv> Apr 17 09:00:59 Daisy kernel: [240323.346162]  usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 58
[03:58] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: whats a T2300 core ?
[03:58] <devilsreject> disasm [03:58] <William> oh.. theres a u...  silly me..... thank you
[03:59] <Ferrixman> centrino duo
[03:59] <yellow_chicken> danjah: if 'bash iptable.rule' does not work, i don't know. sorry
[03:59] <disasm> devilsreject: open up alsamixer, make sure both mic and mp3 are unmuted and have volume, press F4 and see if you have mix as an option, if so, capture it, then record
[03:59] <ubuntu> does anyone know of a default password for returning from standby on the live DVD?  a blank field wil result in an error message
[03:59] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: oh ok ... well i reckon thats probably supported since its widely used
[04:00] <danjah> thanks yellow_chicken:
[04:00] <acalvo> is it possible to install both ubuntu and ubuntu64 under the same machine? If it is, how would grub handle it?
[04:00] <devilsreject> disasm [04:00] <disasm> yeah, pcm
[04:00] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: but it may use a different interface than the one used from that package
[04:00] <disasm> pcm is your main wave table, so pcm, and mic are what you're looking for
[04:00] <chytraeus> orbin: ty my friend. that did the trick!
[04:01] <danjah> bye
[04:01] <Ferrixman> ok
[04:02] <orbin> chytraeus: yw
[04:02] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: this guy seems to get it working with that package http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[04:02] <KrakHed> anyone else have the problem with beryl creating windows underneath all the other windows?
[04:03] <KrakHed> I've been all over the beryl manager
[04:03] <spheard> hi, Ive had my MBR wiped out by bloody vista, Im trying to use $sudo grub-install to reinstate it but its asking for a device sda0 and sda1 dont do it. Im using edgy
[04:03] <Ferrixman> i've seen that, but i don't have such directories
[04:03] <xarquid> spheard: What kind of hard drive(s) do you have? Are they just IDE?
[04:03] <spheard> no, sata
[04:04] <spheard> Im booting with pci=nomsi
[04:04] <spheard> and the installer finds the drives
[04:04] <fiery_cleric> Ferrixman: yeah its like 2 years old that link
[04:04] <devilsreject> sweet got it workin from ur instructions bud thanx a million
[04:04] <devilsreject> l8r
[04:04] <frederic_pooky_p> e
[04:05] <sanityx> Hey according to ubuntu.com 7.04 is out, but I can't find a download link anywhere
[04:05] <sanityx> 7.04 final i mean
[04:06] <xukun> can some one advice me a good rewsreader program to download files from news servers?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> sanityx: its not out
[04:06] <sanityx> oh yeah?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> late this week
[04:06] <andre_pl> xukun: SABnzbd
[04:07] <sanityx> gnomefreak, http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu704
[04:07] <jvolkman> sanityx, read the article
[04:07] <Svish> Anyone here know of a good JSP IDE/Editor? (or an active jsp channel..)
[04:07] <sanityx> ah ok
[04:07] <xukun> andre_pl, why that one?
[04:07] <sanityx> :-P
[04:08] <andre_pl> cuz its good
[04:08] <tarelerulz> I am lost
[04:08] <tarelerulz> I install  djview and  everything went fine ,but I can seem to find the program at all
[04:09] <Andeh> Hello
[04:09] <fiery_cleric> hello^1111
[04:10] <Andeh> Hello
[04:10] <Andeh> I am learning about raid
[04:11] <fiery_cleric> !raid
[04:11] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:12] <oldude67> what web cam works best with this os?
[04:12] <dooglus> tarelerulz: here's a list of files: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=djview&version=edgy&arch=i386
[04:12] <dooglus> tarelerulz: the program is /usr/bin/djview
[04:14] <PlanarPlatypus> Hi guys, if I have a ubuntu suystem which currently has a root password how do I disable it again?
[04:15] <Intangir> PlanarPlatypus: just set it to something reallly hard
[04:15] <ewurah> hello anybody here?
[04:15] <Intangir> no
[04:15] <ewurah> i need some help with ma dpkg
[04:15] <swimmerino88> hello!is there a program that i can use for create .gif's images?
[04:15] <Intangir> only 1113 people in the channel
[04:16] <Kanzie> I have been trying to install vsftpd all day on my Feisty-install with no success. I can log in if I connect locally or within my NAt, but as soon as I try to log in using the public IP i get 530 Permission denied (that is after I have tried to log in, the ftp-server does respond and all, just wont allow users from outside the 1902.168-range)
[04:16] <Intangir> swimmerino88: gimp?
[04:16] <Intangir> lol that guy logged
[04:16] <swimmerino88> Intangir i tried to use it...but it is very difficult is there another one?
[04:17] <tortus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16128/ Can somebody help me with this? I cant get mono to install properly
[04:17] <Intangir> swimmerino88: imagemagik? or imagemagick or something like that
[04:17] <fiery_cleric> PlanarPlatypus: passwd -d root
[04:17] <PlanarPlatypus> fiery_cleric, thanks
[04:17] <Intangir> swimmerino88: has a 'convert' command line option that can convert files to gif
[04:17] <Malachi> How can I convert a VCD (cue, bin) to an avi/mpg?
[04:17] <fiery_cleric> PlanarPlatypus: that might not be right....
[04:18] <Intangir> Malachi: there could be a way to mount one of the files, and read the avi/mpg off of it
[04:18] <Intangir> or a way to convert it to .iso
[04:18] <PlanarPlatypus> fiery_cleric, seems to have worked
[04:18] <swimmerino88> Intangir i'd like to create dinamic gif
[04:18] <cire> what is the recommended wireless keyboard/mouse hardware that works well with ubuntu edgy?
[04:18] <PlanarPlatypus> fiery_cleric, although the manpage on the subject wasn't 100% clear
[04:18] <Kanzie> noone that can help me?
[04:18] <Intangir> cire: i think as long as its usb you should be fine, ive never had a problem
[04:19] <fiery_cleric> PlanarPlatypus: to make sure /etc/shadow has after root: a *
[04:19] <cire> Intangir, thanks
[04:19] <Intangir> cire: i got this keyboard with a mouse stick thing on it, works as keyboard/mouse and joystick
[04:19] <Intangir> pretty cool
[04:20] <cire> no drivers necessary?
[04:20] <Intangir> nope
[04:20] <Intangir> just plugged it in, and synced the wireless part to the reciever with the little 'connect' buttons
[04:20] <Intangir> and it worked fine
[04:20] <ewurah> xtknight;
[04:20] <cire> what brand?
[04:20] <Andeh> Hello
[04:20] <dooglus> hi
[04:20] <CrippledCanary> Has anyone here tested feisty with vmware workstation 5.5.x
[04:20] <Andeh> Can anyone here help me with a RAID question??
[04:20] <Trist_an> I have Windows installed on a partition and I would like to know if it is possible to run it while in Linux using Virtual Box. I tried in VMWare but it doesn't want to run because it says that the hard drive have been modified or something
[04:20] <psyko_free> what is the new version ubunt?
[04:20] <psyko_free> ubuntu
[04:21] <Intangir> i dont recall, i found it online somewhere, wasnt that easy to find it either, keyboard, mouse and joystyick all in one
[04:21] <dooglus> psyko_free: coming soon - 2 days I think
[04:21] <arrow__> hello all
[04:21] <Intangir> cire: the sides even hae handles for using it as a joystick
[04:21] <numaan> Dapper was supported for 18th months Does this support ends with the release of Feisty and what does it really mean?
[04:21] <Intangir> cire: im at work right now or i would just look
[04:21] <GionnyBoss> I'd like to convert a DivX in a DVD format. Which application can I use for Linux, please?
[04:21] <dooglus> numaan: dapper is supported for 36 months
[04:21] <Andeh> Trist_an: Apparently Virtualbox can ONLY use virtual drives. So, no.
[04:21] <Andeh> I have tried this.
[04:21] <Trist_an> GionnyBoss, I think that mencoder can do it
[04:21] <CNU> how can i add sata_sil24 to initrd? i just installed ubuntu and it won't mount my / partition. after some time i get some initrd-shell and when i did ls in /lib/modules++/scsi i couldn't find sata_sil24 anywhere
[04:21] <arrow__> I just put ubuntu onto a computer, when it boots up I login and the mouse and keyboard work fine, as soon as it logs in the mouse and keyboard do not work anymore
[04:21] <numaan> dooglus,  on Servers I guess?
[04:22] <Trist_an> ok Andeh
[04:22] <dooglus> numaan: no, 60 months on servers
[04:22] <GionnyBoss> Trist_an: ok thanks, I'll have a look at that
[04:22] <Andeh> no prob :)
[04:22] <numaan> dooglus,  you sure?
[04:22] <dooglus> numaan: dapper is LTS (long term support).  all other releases have been 18 months, but not dapper
[04:22] <mc44> numaan: he is right
[04:22] <Intangir> GionnyBoss: tons of apps , ya i used mencoder, but you have to know the right args, look them up online
[04:22] <cire> nice, ever tried athe gyration mouse?
[04:22] <numaan> dooglus,  does it mean that we will recieve security updates for three years?
[04:22] <dooglus> numaan: yes
[04:22] <dooglus> numaan: and I guess for 5 years for 'server' packages (whatever than means)
[04:23] <Intangir> cire: no
[04:23] <GionnyBoss> Intangir: ok thanks. I'm watching man mencoder but there are a lot of options... now I will search on google. Thank you!
[04:23] <numaan> ok
[04:23] <CrippledCanary> Can anyone tell me the status of vmware 5.5.x on feisty?
[04:23] <Intangir> GionnyBoss: just do a google search for converting video to .vob, or something
[04:23] <numaan> dooglus,  and what about this feisty?
[04:23] <Andeh> I have a RAID question. Assuming i have 4 disks, 100 GB each. They are running a RAID 5 setup.
[04:23] <Andeh> How much space would this result in?
[04:23] <dooglus> numaan: 18 months
[04:23] <tortus> cant anyone help me install mono? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16128/
[04:23] <Intangir> GionnyBoss: i did a similar search and found the perefect page, but i dont have the link here..
[04:23] <foutrelis> Someone told me that Feisty Fawn Final is out. Is it true or just a rumor?
[04:23] <CrippledCanary> tortus: sudo aptitude install mono
[04:23] <Intangir> GionnyBoss: i did the same thing on linux like a week ago
[04:23] <PriceChild> foutrelis, untrue
[04:23] <arrow___> I just installed ubuntu on a computer and now when it boots up the mouse and key board freeze, but it lets me login just fine
[04:23] <foutrelis> PriceChild: Thanks :)
[04:23] <numaan> dooglus,  so feisty has a small support cycle. So why users should upgrade to Feisty why not stick with dapper
[04:24] <cire> Intanger: thanks
[04:24] <PriceChild> foutrelis, some time following the 19th
[04:24] <mc44> numaan: well it depends if you want the newer features
[04:24] <PriceChild> numaan, Very true. There is no reason to upgrade from a working system.
[04:24] <arrow___> numaan, I find that dapper doesn't have as many programs offered on it through synaptic
[04:24] <CrippledCanary> tortus: Have you done a apt-get update lately?
[04:24] <PriceChild> numaan, those needing new hardware support, or specific features may have no problem though
[04:24] <GionnyBoss> Intangir: ok I'm glad that it's possible. Do you remember mencoder parameter, please? I can find a lot of stuff on google and I'm not sure on which parameter I have to use
[04:25] <numaan> ok so Feisty is not a LTS release?
[04:25] <Trist_an> GionnyBoss, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=360138
[04:25] <Cetanhota> quick question, when the official release of 7.04 comes out will I need to reinstall, or will I get everything during a system update?
[04:25] <mc44> numaan: no
[04:25] <Trist_an> GionnyBoss, 3rd is giving options
[04:25] <PriceChild> Cetanhota, dapper or edgy?
[04:25] <dooglus> numaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/about-ubuntu.html says "Every Ubuntu release is supported for at least 18 months with security and other updates. Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS is a special enterprise-ready release, and is supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server"
[04:25] <Cetanhota> I am in the 7.04 beta now.
[04:25] <Trist_an> GionnyBoss, 4th is giving a bash script if you want a PAL encode
[04:25] <arrow___> numaan, the release after fiesty will be, in 6 more months
[04:26] <deathplanter> hiya dudes, do you know any linux toys like windows movie maker?
[04:26] <mc44> Cetanhota: then you dont need to do anything
[04:26] <GionnyBoss> Trist_an: thank you a lot! Yeah I want a PAL encode... I'm italian :P
[04:26] <dooglus> arrow___: is that definite?
[04:26] <Cetanhota> Thanks mc44, and PriceChild
[04:26] <bgrupe> Cetanhota: you should be prompted for updates until the final version is ready.
[04:26] <PriceChild> Cetanhota, normal upgrades will keep you on latest feisty. Support in #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:26] <Trist_an> then his bash script should nicely work for you
[04:26] <deathplanter> hiya dudes, do you know any linux toys like windows movie maker?
[04:26] <fiery_cleric> Andeh: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_5 300 Mb
[04:26] <arrow___> dooglus, I thought every third release was, let me check
[04:27] <osfameron> deathplanter: ogle maybe ?
[04:27] <mc44> arrow___: its whenever it seems appropriate. Most likely feisty
[04:27] <PriceChild> !kino | deathplanter
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <PriceChild> !info kino | deathplanter
[04:27] <ubotu> deathplanter: kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[04:27] <mc44> arrow___: its whenever it seems appropriate. Most likely feisty+2 rather
[04:27] <Andeh> fiery_cleric: Yes i thought so. I checked this while you were typing using http://www.ibeast.com/content/tools/RaidCalc/RaidCalc.asp
[04:27] <Andeh> fiery_cleric: thanks, though!
[04:27] <CapaH> Question, during the Install process -- I choose "Guided - resize SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use freed space:     (New Partition size: <---------------||-------------------------------> (194.7 GB) : My question is this, when it says "New Partition Size" is it saying "The size of the to-be-created Ubuntu Partition" or "The new size of the original partition" ?
[04:27] <masta> eee
[04:27] <dooglus> arrow___: I think you'll find it's "lts when we feel like it / when we're ready"
[04:27] <arrow___> mc44, ahh, ok
[04:28] <billy> CapaH, the original.
[04:28] <stefg> / #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <arrow___> dooglus, I stand corrected
[04:28] <CapaH> billy: So if for example, I set the size to 450 GIG (out of a 500 GIG HD) then I am leaving 50 gigs for Ubuntu right?
[04:28] <xander> no
[04:28] <xander> dziadzie czego chcesz
[04:28] <billy> CapaH, right on.
[04:28] <mc44> !pl | xander
[04:28] <ubotu> xander: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:28] <numaan> dooglus,  Does Avahi improves wireless connectivity like I can connect my mobile phone and other bluetooth devices easily?
[04:29] <arrow___> I have a problem, I just installed dapper onto a computer and now it starts and lets me login and then the mouse and keyboard freeze up
[04:29] <osfameron> ah, Ogle is a DVD player, not a movie editor.  silly me
[04:29] <dooglus> numaan: I've no idea
[04:29] <CapaH> Can Ubuntu properly read/use a compression enabled NTFS filesystem?
[04:29] <masta> q
[04:29] <PriceChild> CapaH, read yes...
[04:29] <mc44> CapaH: it can read, but not write by default
[04:29] <numaan> dooglus, I have Nokia 7610 and Ubuntu/Debian both do not get it when I connect using USB
[04:29] <czr> CapaH, reading at least works
[04:29] <PriceChild> CapaH, to write you have to use the following... read the warnings
[04:29] <PriceChild> !ntfs-3g | CapaH
[04:29] <ubotu> CapaH: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:29] <fiery_cleric> arrow__: so you've established that the computer is not locking up... ie u can use ctrl-alt-backspace to return to the login screen from the desktop
[04:30] <CapaH> I see
[04:30] <czr> anyone used ntfs-3g with vista/ntfs5.2?
[04:30] <Andeh> I have another RAID question.
[04:30] <Andeh> Ok, another scenario: I want a really fast system with as much space as possible. I would choose RAID 0.
[04:30] <Andeh> Assuming this system ran Ubuntu as the only OS, i could make regular script somehow that would copy my stuff into a nice TAR file, (deleting the older TAR) ever week or so?
[04:30] <mc44> czr: crazy man :)
[04:30] <billy> CapaH, also, you may want to consider a separate /home partition.
[04:30] <czr> Andeh, raid 5 and raid 0 with proper hardware raid system. expensive
[04:30] <czr> mc44, hello to you too :-)
[04:30] <arrow___> ahh fiery_cleric, no, I cannot use alt ctrl backspace or alt ctrl any of the Fs
[04:31] <Andeh> czr: Proper hardware raid system? Why would this be expensive? Also, what raid levels CAN be run using software raid??
[04:31] <fiery_cleric> arrow__: that does suggest that the comp is locking up ....
[04:31] <joeyk_> heya
[04:32] <maxwell> kes lan
[04:32] <czr> Andeh, because high performance stuff is expensive. swraid? whatever you like (0, 1, 1+0, 5, 5+0, 5+1+0, 6, etc)
[04:32] <fiery_cleric> arrow___:  does the clock tick over
[04:32] <arrow___> what does that red line across the ir channel mean?
[04:32] <freez> i followed the nvidia driver installation instructions now i have problem with xserver
[04:32] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, i'll be back in about a minute to tell you
[04:32] <freez> nvidia failed to allocate  rankine object
[04:32] <Dr_willis> arrow__,  some clients put a marker where you 'left'  - thus you can see when the conersations continued.
[04:32] <joeyk_> I just install vmware server and setup a virtual machine with no probs. but I can't run it via launcher.. I have to open a terminal and sudo vmware... is there anywhy to fix that so I can run it via launcher
[04:33] <CapaH> joeyk: Create a new launcher item :)
[04:33] <joeyk_> uhh i did
[04:33] <Andeh> czr: Ooh... I meant the highest performance i could get for as cheap as possible. My acutal QUESTION was could i make a script that copies EVERYTHING into a nice tar file on my external drive, and replaces an older version of the same TAR?
[04:33] <Spark> does qiv work on ubuntu? i've tried it on two systems and it fails to execute "Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)  serial 109 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0"
[04:33] <Andeh> :)
[04:33] <joeyk_> and I tried to add the command sudo vmware but still didnt work
[04:33] <CapaH> joeyk: It should be plenty easy to just add a launcher item with "sudo vmware" in it
[04:33] <CapaH> strange
[04:33] <Spark> if not, is there an alternative program?
[04:33] <Andeh> czr: Just a yes or no question :)
[04:33] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I cant recall ever needing to do 'sudo vmware'
[04:34] <CapaH> I am wondering if running vmware in Ubuntu will be better than running VMWare in WinXP
[04:34] <czr> Andeh, yes
[04:34] <arrow___> Dr_willis, ok thx
[04:34] <`Matir> Andeh, it's easily done
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> !qiv
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qiv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <czr> Andeh, assuming I understood you correctly
[04:34] <Andeh> czr: yay
[04:34] <CNU> how can i add sata_sil24 to initrd image?
[04:34] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, there's no clock on the screen
[04:34] <czr> CapaH, normally i's more stable. depends what else you do on your system at the same time
[04:34] <Andeh> czr: Ok, thats excellent. s
[04:34] <CapaH> czr: more stable in XP or Ubuntu ?
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: the default ubuntu desktop has a clock
[04:35] <czr> CapaH, in linux in general
[04:35] <czr> CapaH, if you're building a dedicated server then I'd recommend linux (ubuntu-server is quite good starting point)
[04:35] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, so it must be locking up before the clock can load?
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: can u login as a different user and it works?
[04:35] <czr> CapaH, or get ESX if you want support and such.
[04:35] <Spark> fiery_cleric: can you apt-get install it and see if it works for you
[04:35] <Spark> it may well be completely broken
[04:35] <Andeh> Eek!1 GAIM changed my BACKSPACE keys function! Now i cant erase! How do i fix this!!?
[04:36] <CapaH> I have an annoying issue, wireless assistant doesn't seem to work for me. The only way I can connect to a wireless network is through iwconfig/dhclient --- any ideas?
[04:36] <fiery_cleric> spark: whats the package?
[04:36] <fiery_cleric> name
[04:36] <freez> please is there anyway to fix the xserver problem
[04:36] <arrow___> I'd have to create another user with out logging in, can I do that?
[04:36] <Spark> fiery_cleric: qiv
[04:36] <Andeh> GAIM somehow changed my backspace keys function! How do i change this"?
[04:36] <freez> i got this after installing the nvidia-glx-config : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to allocate rankine object
[04:36] <fiery_cleric> spark: what does the program do?
[04:37] <freez> Fatal server error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[04:37] <Spark> fiery_cleric: you run qiv *.png and you can cycle through the images quickly
[04:37] <Andeh> Every time i press backspace gaim opens a prompt for "New instant message"
[04:37] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: ok but currently it doesnt work at all ... it does suggest the pc is locking up....
[04:37] <Spark> fiery_cleric: useful for large directories full of images
[04:37] <cy_`> urm, will the VGA-driver on-boot-recognition be enhancend within feisty regarding ati cards ? ..
[04:37] <Spark> fiery_cleric: it supports other formats as well of course
[04:37] <fiery_cleric> spark: trying it now
[04:37] <Spark> thanks
[04:37] <rambo3> cy_`, what now ?
[04:38] <rambo3> cy_`, its
[04:38] <rambo3> working in feisty
[04:38] <rambo3> !enter > rambo3
[04:38] <arrow___> fiery_cleric: What should I do now?
[04:38] <fiery_cleric> Spark: works fine
[04:38] <freez> anyone can help fixing the problem PLEASE ?
[04:38] <Xyhthyx> CapaH: I use Wifi Radar with good results.
[04:38] <fiery_cleric> Spark: i am on dapper
[04:39] <Andeh> Can anyone Help!!? GAIM messed up and my BACKSPACE key opens a dialog for a new conversaition! How do i fix this????????
[04:39] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: um.... has it ever worked?
[04:39] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, nope
[04:39] <rambo3> I found Wifi Radar to be most usless app of all
[04:39] <Andeh> Anyone!?
[04:39] <Spark> fiery_cleric: damn
[04:40] <rambo3> Andeh, /j #gaim
[04:40] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: ok could be anything but maybe video card?
[04:40] <cy_`> rambo3, what what now ? ;)
[04:40] <rambo3> cy_`, the ati driver has always worked, nvidia was the problem
[04:40] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, you think its a video card problem?
[04:40] <CapaH> ah there we go wifi radar works
[04:40] <arrow___> i mean hardware
[04:41] <freez> why are you ignoring me people ? i need help and i guess its here where i can have it !!??
[04:41] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: have u got another OS on the computer?
[04:41] <cl187> whats the apt command to update the kernel?
[04:41] <surviver> hy, i've got question i have a ubuntu 64bit version, when i boot up i see this logo of ubuntu (grey) with loading balk, can i edit it so i can see what he loads like in a terminal or sonthing?
[04:41] <CapaH> freez: No one is ignoring you, you must be patient -- ask your question again
[04:41] <craigbass1976> Here's the command I'm typing:  mount -t smbfs //ip.add.ress/share /mount/point/ and I'm getting " wrong fs type, bad option, ...."
[04:41] <CapaH> freez: We are not all seeing our screen at the same time, so sometimes you have to ask --- wait a while, and ask again
[04:41] <rambo3> surviver, i belive f2 is verbous mode
[04:41] <cy_`> rambo3, oh.. ok .. :/ but here on some laptops it always selects the vesa driver instead of the ati :(
[04:42] <surviver> rambo3, oke ill try out :)
[04:42] <arrow___> Fiery_cleric, I deleted xp when I put ubuntu on, the computer was having problems before also, I think I'll go try to put suse on and see if that works
[04:42] <billy> cl187, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should update the kernel for you.
[04:42] <life> in the mounting fase for startup, I get "mounting PCMCIA services - failed", how can I fix that
[04:42] <Xyhthyx> craigbass1976: I would suggest mounting with cifs, my transfers are just faster over smb mounts.
[04:42] <fiery_cleric> surviver: edit the grub boot line and remove splash from it ... maybe
[04:42] <surviver> oke :)
[04:42] <craigbass1976> dmesg | tail give me smb_fill_super: missing data argument  and I get the same garbage with cifs.
[04:42] <rambo3> cy_`, well its the fail safe Driver
[04:42] <stefg> life: is this a norebook with pccard-slots?
[04:42] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: try the ram test that u can boot into from grub
[04:42] <alduin> Anyone happen to know if there's a way to force a particular SCSI device to always have the same device number?  I've got a tape loader that I'd like to always be at /dev/sg8, but when three of the disks in the machine failed, it's down to /dev/sg5.  Any way to do this?
[04:42] <freez> CapaH : i installed the nvidia drivers after installing the nvidia-glx-config and enable it Xserver crashs and wont start : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to allocate rankine object (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
[04:43] <CapaH> freez: Truly that question is beyond my knowledge, but #Ubuntu-Effects is probably the place to ask
[04:43] <cy_`> rambo3, ok.. is there a way to give it directions on the boot prompt before installing which driver it should use ?
[04:43] <arrow___> fiery_cleric, how do I get to that screen without putting in the livecd?
[04:43] <cl187> trying now, thanks billy
[04:43] <billy> cl187, ur welcome.  :)
[04:43] <freez> ok thanks for the suggestion CapaH
[04:44] <fiery_cleric> arrow__: when u boot doesnt it come up with a menu? or yeah just use the livecd and run the memtest from that
[04:44] <Andeh> Hello
[04:44] <Andeh> I have a problem
[04:44] <quami> i want some help
[04:44] <billy> !hi | Andeh
[04:44] <ubotu> Andeh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:44] <life> stefg, no, it is a normal pc
[04:44] <stefg> alduin: seems that you have t write up a udev rule
[04:44] <rambo3> cy_`, no idea
[04:44] <Andeh> Somehow, i set a new key shortcut for gaim. Now every time i press backspace, it asks me to join a conversation!
[04:45] <Andeh> I dont know how i did this or how to fix it
[04:45] <quami> i have some problem with my dpkg
[04:45] <arrow___> fiery_cleric: k, it takes like 2 hours and I have to go to work, I'll be back on tonight or tomorrow, and ask someone for help from there.  Thankyou for all of your time
[04:45] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[04:45] <cl187> though the bcm43xx was supose to work in new kernel... *shrugs* guess ndiswrapper here i come
[04:45] <aeonix> umm i got a problem my sound was working yesterday and today nothing
[04:45] <stefg> life, this is no error, just an info.  sudo apt-get remove --purge pcmcia-cs will make it go away
[04:45] <crimsun> cl187: it can't work if the firmware isn't available
[04:46] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: if xp doesnt work ubuntu doesnt work ... it suggests that there is a hardware problem
[04:46] <Andeh> Help! How do i fix this: GAIM asks to join a conversation when i press BACKSPACE. This has happened recently, dunno how. HOW DO I FIX IT??????
[04:46] <cl187> heh ok i feel like a dumb ass...
[04:46] <stefg> Andeh: /j #gaim ?
[04:46] <billy> Andeh, mmm... that's kinda weird.  You don't recall editing anything?
[04:46] <NDRES> #ubuntu-es
[04:47] <crimsun> cl187: cafuego has a firmware deb
[04:47] <porkpie> hi guy's how do I get an ubuntu package to prompt for the config menu .....  i.e I want to select internet for postfix
[04:47] <Andeh> billy: No.... probably something i pressed
[04:47] <aeonix> umm i got a problem my sound was working yesterday and today nothing
[04:47] <Andeh> on the keyboard..
[04:47] <porkpie> I removed postfix and re-installed but it didn't ask me
[04:47] <blackest> hi i am having some problems with my exports and nfs
[04:47] <Andeh> Well do you know how to change gaim shortcuts????
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Andeh,  try a new user - see if gaim messes up on them also. as a test.
[04:48] <billy> Andeh, yeah.  the #gaim people might help.  there's always `sudo aptitude remove --purge gaim`.  :)
[04:48] <fiery_cleric> porkpie: dpkg-reconfigure ?
[04:48] <Rprp> Hmm, Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[04:48] <Rebecca> anyone here used a Logitech quickcam Express
[04:48] <life> stefg, these packages will be removed: bluez-pcmcia-support* pcmcia-cs* ubuntu-desktop*, are these ok to remove, even ubuntu-desktop?
[04:48] <Rebecca> with ubuntu?
[04:48] <billy> Andeh, and then re-install, of course.
[04:48] <Andeh> billy: No, the gaim people crashed me :O. What's purge?
[04:49] <Andeh> So nobody knows how to change gaim shortcuts
[04:49] <stefg> life, yes... they are all related to pcmcia, and ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[04:49] <billy> Andeh, removes the config files.
[04:49] <quami> ubuto
[04:49] <craigbass1976> is there more to making  sure I have all the samba stuff than apt-get install samba
[04:49] <aeonix> my volum is up on every thing and yet still no sound
[04:50] <blackest> if i do the following " sudo mount --bind /home/john/ /export/john"  i expect to see the files and folders /home/john when i go to the mnt/export/john folder on the remote machine but the folder is empty
[04:50] <dac> can one have ubuntu and kubuntu on the same box?
[04:50] <blackest> dac yes
[04:50] <tarzeau> dac: sure
[04:50] <Dr_willis> dac,  i do it all the time.
[04:50] <surviver> anyone know how i can set my login screen to terminal login so i can see what he does in place of the splash ubuntu screen?
[04:50] <cl187> crimsun: thanks, but do they have a feisty fawn repositorie?
[04:50] <fiery_cleric> Rebecca: doesnt look promising http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=875
[04:50] <stefg> !sound | aeonix
[04:50] <ubotu> aeonix: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:50] <Andeh> billy: How??
[04:50] <crimsun> cl187: IIRC, yes
[04:51] <blackest> !nfs | blackest
[04:51] <Paul_UK> hey, how long does ubuntu take to show the installation gui on boot? with a cd install?
[04:51] <dac> on this box I have ubuntu, can I just install kubuntu on same?
[04:51] <Rebecca> fiery_cleric: considering that is ~6yrs old.. i wouldn't take it particularly seriously in relation to current builds
[04:52] <arrow___> fiery_cleric!!!, I went into the recovery mode and made a new user and it works with the new user!!!!
[04:52] <fiery_cleric> Rebecca: last post was in 2004
[04:52] <jhaig> dac: You can install the kubuntu-desktop package
[04:52] <Xyhthyx> Andeh: Go to your home folder, view all hidden files (Ctrl + H) and remove the .gaim folder.
[04:52] <dac> ok, thanks
[04:53] <fiery_cleric> arrow___: awesome
[04:53] <Rebecca> fiery_cleric: also, it's for a Labtech web cam...
[04:53] <fiery_cleric> Rebecca: prolly just rebranded ...
[04:53] <fiery_cleric> Rebecca: check /proc/bus/usb/devices
[04:53] <fiery_cleric> Rebecca: for product/vendor id
[04:54] <Rebecca> fiery_cleric: i checked the same site and there are other QC express entries that are considerably more positive :)
[04:54] <life> stefg, thx
[04:54] <Rebecca> fiery_cleric: ok :)
[04:54] <aeonix> i have sound on XP but not here why
[04:54] <Xyhthyx> Andeh: Go to your home folder, view all hidden files (Ctrl + H) and remove the .gaim folder.
[04:54] <Xyhthyx> ;o
[04:54] <blackest> anyone good with nfs ?
[04:55] <fiery_cleric> blacknest: not good but i know the basics
[04:56] <aeonix> can any one help me with my sound this is drving me nuts lol
[04:56] <drew> sweet, 7.04 cd's request page is up
[04:57] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: have u checked system->preferences->sound ? ...
[04:57] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, yes
[04:57] <blackest> thanks fiery_cleric I want to share a folder over my network but for some reason I am sharing my export folders but they are not getting linked with the real folders
[04:57] <j0hnny> ercity.net
[04:58] <fiery_cleric> blackest: are u using symbolic links?
[04:58] <blackest> well i tried creating a symlink but the problem was on the remote machine it was broken
[04:59] <blackest> sudo mount --bind /home/john/ /export/john that should make the homefolder of john available over the network shouldnt it
[04:59] <neosb> hey! do you know why azerus and gaim is shuting down when trying to connect to the web??
[05:00] <fiery_cleric> blackest: umm...
[05:00] <corrupt> hello
[05:01] <corrupt> ive got a little problem with sound on ubuntu ... doesnt work in ie. UT2004
[05:01] <blackest> if i put in a symlink in export/john then on the local machine it access's /home/john but its broken from the remote systems point of view
[05:01] <corrupt> anyone knows the right stuff to do?
[05:01] <kane77> how can I remove multiple programs ??(aptitude remove xfce4-* doesnt work)
[05:02] <rambo3> corrupt, use /dev/dsp as audi device
[05:02] <neosb> i'm trying to open azerus and gaim and then when they started to run the're shuting down, please help...
[05:02] <fiery_cleric> blackest: yeah coz symlinks are just that so the exported symlink to /foor/bar links to /foor/bar on the remote machine (if it exists at all)
[05:03] <corrupt> rambo3: dev/dsp? where can i set this up? guess my default is alsa ... im quite new to ubuntu
[05:03] <dooglus> kane77: '*' only matches filenames
[05:03] <aeonix> i know that for a while i counldnt mute or turn down my sound but now it dont want to make any sound at all and the sound is up on every thing
[05:03] <Paul_UK> how long does ubuntu take to install?  i have isolinux 3.11 debian 2006 03 16... loading.... and 10 mins later and its still loading
[05:03] <kane77> dooglus, so how can I match packages?
[05:03] <rambo3> corrupt, in UT settings i guess . google : /dev/dsp ut2004
[05:04] <dooglus> kane77: sudo apt-get remove $(dpkg -l 'xfce4*' | awk '{print $2}')
[05:04] <bgrupe> Paul_UK: then you might have a common problem, try the alternate cd or safe graphics mode, it should be up within a minute or so normally
[05:04] <corrupt> yea ... thanks
[05:04] <corrupt> :)
[05:04] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: have u got mplayer installed?
[05:04] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, yes
[05:04] <Paul_UK> bggrupe.. ugh
[05:04] <stefg> Paul_UK: that's just the boot loader, it probably hangs. What harware do you have?
[05:05] <Paul_UK> stefg: sony vaio laptop z1rmp
[05:05] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: ok try playing an audio file and see what error it gives u
[05:05] <blackest> um so i cant do the symlink but unless i am getting it wrong the mount --bind /export/foo  /home/foo/ isnt that meant to work like a symlink ?
[05:05] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, ok just a sec
[05:05] <neosb> why azerus and gaim is shuting down when trying to connect??
[05:05] <dooglus> blackest: bind mounts aren't like symlinks
[05:05] <dooglus> blackest: they're more like hardlinks
[05:06] <Paul_UK> how do i try safe graphics mode?
[05:06] <surviver> hy evry1, my question: how can i change the ubuntu logo to view a terminal what he loads on boot up?
[05:06] <fiery_cleric> Blackest: other way around isnt it
[05:06] <andre> hi
[05:07] <andre> hi
[05:07] <kane77> dooglus, this gives: Cannot find packages
[05:07] <andre> hi
[05:07] <surviver> hi
[05:07] <fiery_cleric> blacktest: plus u shouldnt need to do that ...?
[05:07] <kurkoten> hola
[05:07] <blackest> erm yeah like # mount --bind /home/users /export/users
[05:08] <stefg> Paul_UK: which version of ubuntu do you try to boot (number? Desktop/Alternate?)
[05:08] <surviver> i've got a question: how can i change the ubuntu logo(splash), to view a terminal what he loads on boot up ??
[05:09] <chili555> surviver sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst to remove splash quiet
[05:09] <surviver> paul_UK: u can try it with live cd
[05:09] <blackest> well users was the example i followed and it works locally if i ssh in and run nautilus then the home folder is accessable from export
[05:09] <blackest> but on the network its empty
[05:09] <surviver> chili555, thx ill try that
[05:09] <stefg> surviver: remove the 'quiet splash' parameters from the bootline in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:09] <blackest> i put a physical file in another export folder and that is accessable
[05:09] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it says could not open/ initialze adio device > no sound
[05:10] <fiery_cleric> blacktest: try a hardlink
[05:10] <Paul_UK> stefg: desktop 6.10
[05:10] <blackest> how would i do that ?
[05:11] <jamesbrose> does anybody know to rotate the screen in ubuntu?
[05:11] <surviver> chili555, need i to set sonthing else at this line? like quit terminal ??
[05:11] <neosb> why azerus and before gaim is shuting down after the loading of program at the time when connecting to the web??
[05:11] <jamesbrose> In the "Screen Resolution" program its greyed out
[05:11] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: what does it say the line above that one
[05:12] <stefg> Paul_UK: so google mentions a couple of succesful installs on Vaios... so have the CD media check (select that from the boot menu)
[05:12] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, thats all it says besides error!
[05:12] <chili555> surviver save and close gedit after those changes and reboot
[05:12] <surviver> chili555, kk brb :)
[05:13] <Paul_UK> stefg, can you give me a link, as i dont know what keys to press, it just goes into the isolinux loader
[05:13] <stefg> Paul_UK: http://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/ubuntu_6.10_review.html
[05:13] <stefg> ^^^ :-)
[05:13] <fiery_cleric> blacktest: ln oldname newname
[05:13] <Paul_UK> thanks
[05:13] <neosb> why azerus and before gaim is shuting down after the loading of program at the time when connecting to the web??
[05:13] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: are u running mplayer from a terminal?
[05:14] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, no coz i dont know how to do that
[05:14] <aidehua> Anyone know a nice command line icalendar tool?
[05:14] <SonicChao> hey, can I cancel downloading in 'software updates' and continue where I left off?
[05:14] <aeonix> SonicChao yes you can
[05:14] <JuJuBee> Someone help me with iptables?  Before vacation, I had a server running dansguardian squid and iptables working fine.  When I returned the server was off (power outage) and my students cannot access the internet.  iptables -L -v shows no rules set.
[05:15] <blackest> that only works for a file its not allowed for a directory
[05:15] <SonicChao> aeonix, in dapper?
[05:15] <mc44> SonicChao: sure
[05:15] <aeonix> SonicChao yeah
[05:15] <SonicChao> I'm upgrading ( a little late, I know ) to edgy
[05:15] <ToXedVirus> wicked SonicChao :>
[05:16] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: press alt-f2 and then type gnome-terminal ... once the window opens type mplayer /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav ... to test
[05:16] <Ng> JuJuBee: did you write the iptables rules by hand or with some other program?
[05:17] <SonicChao> In the past, it's always made me start agian :(
[05:17] <Ng> JuJuBee: if it was by hand, you should be aware that they aren't automatically saved, you are resonsible for re-running them on each boot
[05:17] <fastly> does the new virtualisation technology in feisty fawn allow xp to run quicker as a vmware vistual machine?
[05:17] <SonicChao> is there something special I need to do?
[05:17] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it played the sound
[05:17] <JuJuBee> Ng when I etnere it now, it doesn't seem to take.
[05:17] <fastly> i have a centrino core 2 duo laptop
[05:17] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: so it works :)
[05:18] <Ng> JuJuBee: that's very strange. No errors?
[05:18] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, but it dont play sounds on like firefox
[05:18] <JuJuBee> nont that I see.
[05:18] <JuJuBee> *none
[05:19] <JuJuBee> I had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[05:19] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: in the terminal type mplayer -ao alsa /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[05:19] <Rprp> f
[05:19] <fiery_cleric> iptables-save will save your settings to a file
[05:19] <big_bang14> vlc gives me "(no video)" when trying to view an avi divx. why is this? should i try mplayer instead?
[05:19] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, alsa-init: playback open error: No such file or directory
[05:20] <SonicChao> big_bang14, did you try mplayer yet?
[05:20] <JuJuBee> fiery_cleric : what do I do with the file?
[05:20] <surviver> chillie555, i deleted the line but still he gives splash
[05:20] <big_bang14> SonicChao, no
[05:20] <Lbawinowns> hmmm... Openoffice documents .odt is also an archive package?, it seems like I can't compress them because the system believes it's an archive :-/
[05:20] <SonicChao> big_bang14, then do so :/
[05:20] <surviver> chili555, i deleted the line but still he gives the splash loading screen...
[05:21] <wind> Trying Linux for first time. Advised to get Xchat. What's this chat for? Linux help/advice?
[05:21] <chili555> surviver the line??? you were supposed to just delete two words
[05:21] <fiery_cleric> JuJuBee: use it with iptables-restore
[05:21] <acalvo> is it possible to install both ubuntu and ubuntu64 under the same machine? If it is, how would grub handle it?
[05:21] <big_bang14> SonicChao, do you know why it does that though?
[05:21] <surviver> chili555, yeah sry thats what i meant :p
[05:21] <SonicChao> wind, Ubuntu help
[05:21] <Shafto> wind: Its just an irc client to come on here
[05:21] <wind> Gotcha
[05:21] <Shafto> wind: Which is ubuntu support
[05:21] <JuJuBee> fiery_cleric : so on startup run iptables-restore...
[05:21] <TuliKramer> does any body can help me with amsn 0.97b ?
[05:21] <Shafto> TuliKramer: Why not just use gaim?! Its much better
[05:22] <SonicChao> big_bang14, there are a lot of possible reasons.
[05:22] <SonicChao> !amsn
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <LjL> !info amsn
[05:22] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[05:22] <big_bang14> SonicChao, hmm...
[05:22] <surviver> chili555, ow i see behind the boot options i have more choice:p there i shall delete one of those :p thx il ltry again
[05:22] <chili555> surviver you probably have two kernels listed in /boot/grub/menu.lst did u delete quiet splash on both? not any lines commented out
[05:22] <SonicChao> install that
[05:22] <TuliKramer> well i try all i can and still have the same problem...
[05:22] <SonicChao> sudo apt-get install amsn
[05:22] <fiery_cleric> JuJuBee: read the man page
[05:22] <TuliKramer> i have amsn installed...not working...
[05:23] <big_bang14> SonicChao, is mplayer generaly a safer bet?
[05:23] <Shafto> TuliKramer: Why not just use GAIM? Its just as good
[05:23] <SonicChao> big_bang14, tell me when youve actually tried mplayer
[05:23] <chili555> surviver  yes on both
[05:23] <SonicChao> TuliKramer, #amsn
[05:23] <TuliKramer> thanks
[05:23] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it didint play
[05:23] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: ok well we know your sound card is working
[05:23] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it worked fine yesterday lol
[05:23] <chili555> surviver gotta run, sorry
[05:24] <big_bang14> SonicChao, i had the problem before on another pc
[05:24] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: in the terminal try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
[05:24] <SonicChao> big_bang14, PC w/Linux?
[05:24] <SonicChao> or PC as in Windows PC
[05:25] <big_bang14> SonicChao, linux
[05:25] <SonicChao> big_bang14, wait, wait, you said DIVX AVI?
[05:25] <big_bang14> SonicChao, i had resolved it but cant remember how and it was with quicktime instead of divx
[05:25] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, i* Setting up ALSA...   [ok] 
[05:25] <SonicChao> Hm...Ive never heard of it. Let me see what ubotu knows.
[05:25] <SonicChao> !divx
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <forcerain> brb [ps sorry about amsg spam] 
[05:26] <big_bang14> SonicChao, yes
[05:26] <fiery_cleric> !alsa
[05:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:26] <SonicChao> oh, ok. go to the RestrictedFormats page
[05:26] <surviver> chili555, jup it works thx :p i just deleted the wrong one :p (of an older version :D)
[05:26] <SonicChao> I cannot be of more assitance than that, other than suggesting mplayer
[05:26] <SonicChao> :(
[05:26] <netmon1> did some upgrades and got a new kernel and when it rewrote my grub menu.lst it got rid of my Windows partition because I moved it previously. Can someone help me put it back in?
[05:27] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, its seleckted
[05:27] <Shafto> !ntfs | netmon1
[05:27] <ubotu> netmon1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:27] <netmon1> I can still mount it
[05:27] <netmon1> I cant boot to it
[05:27] <Shafto> netmon1: Ohhhhhhhhh sorry
[05:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: grub
[05:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:28] <ff1> Hi, how do I add debhttp://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntuedgystable as a respitory
[05:28] <netmon1> Close
[05:28] <ff1> I need to know, and BTW, i am on the live cd
[05:28] <netmon1> But Ubuntu wiped Windows grub not the other way around
[05:28] <Shane-S> I need serious help, I had the stranged thing happen...I am on a window domain, and our webserver is Ubuntu Server 6.10 I think...
[05:29] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: type in the terminal aplay -l
[05:29] <firefoxman> HOW DO I add a respetory?
[05:29] <xtknight5> !repositories
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:29] <JR> does anybody know to enable rotation in feisty?
[05:29] <bobbob1016> can anyone recommend a program that will backup my current ubuntu, just incase feisty doesn't play nice with my current setup?
[05:29] <Shane-S> anyway, I have having network bog down issues, and wireshark was pointing to the Windows systems...and while working the website went down
[05:29] <firefoxman> !fiesty |JR
[05:29] <ubotu> JR: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:29] <xtknight_school> JR: xrandr
[05:30] <Shane-S> I tried to restart apache, and it said couldn't bind to port 80, so I rebooted the server
[05:30] <Shane-S> well since doing that all my other network issue here disappeared
[05:30] <JR> xtknight_school, using xrandr how would I do it?
[05:30] <Shane-S> so I need to know where would a network error log be on ubuntu server\
[05:30] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it has stuff from my PLAYBACK Hardware Devices
[05:30] <Shane-S> or other log that I can check to see what went on the past hour
[05:30] <xtknight_school> JR: not on *nix at the moment.  try "man xrandr"
[05:31] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: does it have a card0 ?
[05:31] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, it has 2 listed
[05:32] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: what are they?
[05:32] <CapaH> In general, what is the standard response that I should take if an application such as firefox stops responding, resulting in my ability only to move the mouse around the screen? CTRL+ALT+DELETE or something else?
[05:32] <bobbob1016> firefoxman, try google-ing first, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories that is the command line way, to do it in the GUI click System -> Administration -> Software Sources, then the Third Party tab, and click Add
[05:32] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, V8235 [VIA 8235] , device 0: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] 
[05:33] <firefoxman> bobbob1016: I found an error in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[05:33] <CapaH> ... Nothing is working I can only move my mouse, any suggestions?
[05:33] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: but it says card0 .... no card1 right?
[05:33] <tekm8> CapaH, does the caps lock key work?
[05:33] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, right
[05:33] <CapaH> tekm: apparently not
[05:34] <bobbob1016> firefoxman, um, ok, I don't have anything to do with those
[05:34] <CapaH> ... I suppose reboot is the only option
[05:34] <bobbob1016> firefoxman, what is the problem you're having with it though
[05:34] <allad> hi everyone. I have a problem with my setup. I have 2 partions linux : /dev/hda3 on / & /dev/hda6 on /home. However, my / partition is full : 145Mb left. And I can't migrate to feisty since there's so many packets to download. Is there a way to map the folder /var to another partition for the migration?
[05:34] <tekm8> CapaH, hrm, if the keyboard is unresponsive, try unplugging it and plugging it back in, otherwise it sounds like you might need to hard reboot
[05:35] <Rprp> Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[05:35] <Lbawinowns> I think ubuntu dapper drake told me that writeing to ntfs was unstable, is that also unstable for edgy/feisty?
[05:35] <allad> Lbawinowns : not anymore with the ntfs-3g driver.
[05:35] <bgrupe> Lbawinowns: it is considered stable with ntfs-3g
[05:36] <Lbawinowns> Did your allad and you bgrupe 's answer contradict each other or did I not get something?
[05:37] <CapaH> Lbawinowns, : They both said the same thing -- basically its safe/stable
[05:37] <Mike834> Ive Installed Ndiswrapper Common 1.18 after downloading it and taking it to my other system via USB. But I cant use the commands as it says no versions are installed. Why?
[05:37] <Lbawinowns> Ok thanks
[05:37] <Lbawinowns> OK, how do i turn my ntfs drives writeable?
[05:38] <bobbob1016> allad, try gparted, gparted.sourceforge.net it'll resize your / directory WARNING I'M NOT SURE IF IT WILL KILL IT THOUGH, some resizers do that, but I've done it a few times and been ok, not on my / partition, but still
[05:38] <allad> bobbob1016 : thanks; I'm gonna check it out right now.
[05:39] <Tarsinion1> How can i setup ubuntu server so that he automaticly detects and installes security updates ?
[05:39] <Cosmo_>  I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:39] <Tenshi> does anyone know about that "data=journal" vs "data=ordered" option when mounting an ext3 filesystem?  I have heard that the "data=journal" option ensures that no data is corrupted or lost during temporary hardware failure or a cold reboot, but slows down your FS operations.
[05:39] <bobbob1016> allad, it's a livecd that just partitions
[05:39] <bobbob1016> allad, not just partitions, but it can resize and everything
[05:40] <allad> bobbob1016 : there seems to be a desktop standalone version. I am downloading it at the moment.
[05:40] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: well try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems .... as far as i can tell your sound card is working , alsa detects your card... just programs cant access alsa ...
[05:40] <bobbob1016> allad, I'd do the LiveCD, if you install it, I'm not sure if you can resize the drive, it's tricky to resize the partition you are currently using
[05:41] <Mike834> Anyone help me with my ndiswrapper problem?
[05:41] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, ok thank you but i will be back if i dont understand wht its telling =P
[05:41] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: it might be a bit advanced but it could be the device files in /dev/snd might not be there
[05:41] <bobbob1016> Lbawinowns, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[05:42] <bobbob1016> Can anyone recommend a program that will backup my current ubuntu, just incase feisty doesn't play nice with my current setup?
[05:42] <Lbawinowns> thanks bobbob
[05:42] <allad> bobbob1016 : yeah. that makes sense. thanks
[05:42] <Mike834> Who wants $45?
[05:42] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, and how would i know if there not there
[05:44] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: to have a look at whats there in the terminal type ls /dev/snd ....
[05:44] <Tarsinion1> How do i install automaticly security updates :-) ? ... without using any GUI ?
[05:44] <big_bang14> SonicChao, its nearly worked! i shall remember in future: vlc<mplayer, all i have to do know i think is un install totem because it gives me a message about totem being unable to play the file
[05:44] <CapaH> Ok I have a peculiar problem, if I load firefox and I go to vmware.com --- the *entire* OS crashes (either on front page, or subsequent pages) --- has not happened on other sites. The only solution is a hard reboot... Ideas?
[05:45] <tekm8> CapaH, wow, i'm gonna check that out
[05:45] <Tarsinion1> CapaH: you cant even switch to other consoles ?
[05:45] <Tarsinion1> CapaH, any plugins installed in firefox ?
[05:45] <CapaH> this is a fresh install, no time yet for new plugins -- and correct, cannot even switch to other consoles
[05:45] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, i have controlC0  midiC1D0  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1p timer, controlC1  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D1c  seq
[05:45] <Rprp> Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[05:45] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: looks ok
[05:46] <tekm8> CapaH, have you installed the updates?
[05:46] <apokryphos> Tarsinion1: you could just make a cron to do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <CapaH> tekm: yes
[05:46] <Tarsinion1> apokryphos, tought of that, but never did that befor ;-)....
[05:46] <Tarsinion1> *thought
[05:46] <lyam> where can i set path to java in firefox? it seems firefox cant find it
[05:46] <jgomo6> greetings
[05:47] <jgomo6> I have a problem with cups
[05:47] <bobbob1016> are there any backup tools that would backup my current ubuntu to a file, so I put it back, incase the feisty upgrade doesn't work too well?
[05:47] <tekm8> CapaH, hrm, that kinda blows my mind if you don't have any plugins installed and everything is updated...unless your screen settings aren't set right, or your graphics card isn't recognized correctly
[05:47] <loca|host> howto use ubuntu-calendar package to embed calendars into wallpaper
[05:47] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: type groups .... is audio mentioned?
[05:47] <elyob> Hi, I'd like to run apache and have installed, however doing a "sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 start" or restart comes back with no error though cannot access anything at localhost or 127.0.0.1
[05:47] <apokryphos> Tarsinion1: /msg ubotu cron
[05:47] <SonicChao> big_bang14, sorry for not checking my #ubuntu messages. I was helping someone in #amsn
[05:48] <SonicChao> But Im glad it worked for you! :D
[05:48] <elyob> Oh wait, just remembered .. no httpd.conf ...
[05:48] <Tenshi> what exactly does the first bit in the file permission metadata indicate ?  (i.e. something that is 1666 vs 0666) ?
[05:48] <apokryphos> elyob: check your apache error log
[05:48] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, yes
[05:48] <bobbob1016> loca|host, I think you want a calendar widget, not sure which one, but a widget should do just what you want
[05:49] <Tarsinion1> apokryphos, kk I'm already studien some howtos ;-) ... shouldnt be that difficult
[05:49] <CapaH> tekm: It *could* be graphic card related, I am using an X800 --- any ideas?
[05:49] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: so u sure: mplayer -ao alsa /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav ... doesnt work
[05:49] <jgomo6> i had to enable cups-lpd (intalled inetd for that). Then, from an hp-ux machine i can send print jobs to the printer pluged on the ubuntu machine.  The problem is that cups print an report befor the job is printed and i can't avoid that
[05:49] <tekm8> CapaH, if those are correct, try deleting your preference files > it's the .mozilla folder in ~
[05:49] <jgomo6> Any body know how to avoid that?
[05:50] <tekm8> CapaH, you might have a corrupted preference file or something...but still, i don't think it should cause the system to crash
[05:50] <Tarsinion1> goodbye everybody :-)
[05:50] <CapaH> update -- just crashed when I was browsing through screensavers --- so not firefox related
[05:50] <CapaH> probably gfx card
[05:50] <yaeyo> Hello all, I would like to experiment a bit with xen and edgy but I have found nothing to indicate that the xen enabled kernel will work with the ati fglrx driver. Does anyone have confirmation if fglrx will work or not?
[05:51] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, yes coz it says alsa-init: playback open error: No such file or directory Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[05:51] <tekm8> CapaH, yeah, sounds like the card or the resolution settings or refresh rate
[05:51] <disasm> on edgy, I have homes mounted via nfs. It's fairly obvious the machine is locking up because nfs server isn't responding, same thing is happening on a legacy debian system, and debian logs the failure to dmesg, however, it appears woodruff is not logging failures. Is there a setting I'm missing?
[05:52] <xtknight_school> disasm: woodruff?  woody you mean?
[05:52] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils
[05:53] <disasm> xtknight_school: sorry, meant the machine ;-) woodruff is the hostname
[05:53] <disasm> xtknight_school: woodruff runs edgy
[05:53] <bobbob1016> are there any backup tools that would backup my current ubuntu to a file, so I put it back, incase the feisty upgrade doesn't work too well?
[05:53] <disasm> bobbob1016: partimage
[05:53] <disasm> bobbob1016: it's your best friend
[05:53] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, i did that and it still dont work
[05:53] <jgomo6> We have changed all the desktops machines on our organization from ald win 98 clients to news ubuntu. Our core system is on an HP-UX server. The old scheme was that The printers were installed in some of the win 98 clients; on the server, all the printers were defined on the printcap file and samba give us the support to send the jobs to the printers. The trick is that the clients used the aplication on win 98 via telnet, so they were really working on the s
[05:53] <lesshaste> anyone know how to install wengophone for ubuntu?
[05:53] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: then test with the mplayer command i gave before then try sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base ... then test
[05:54] <tekm8> wow, 3 days till it's out of beta...neato
[05:54] <bobbob1016> disasm, does it compress the images?  and is it easy to restore them?
[05:54] <xtknight_school> disasm: you mean your ubuntu isnt logging SMB tyimeouts?
[05:54] <xtknight_school> timeouts**
[05:54] <neosb> how to find /.azerus??
[05:54] <disasm> xtknight_school: NFS
[05:54] <xtknight_school> neosb. ~/ is short for /home/
[05:54] <adamy> Is the last RC out yet ?
[05:54] <ompaul> on dapper what script probes usbsticks to automount them?
[05:54] <xtknight_school> neosb actually it's short for /home/username
[05:54] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[05:54] <disasm> bobbob1016: yup
[05:54] <xtknight_school> ompaul gnome hal mounter
[05:54] <disasm> bobbob1016: gz or bz2 format
[05:55] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[05:55] <xtknight_school> ompaul edit preferencies.fdi to change automount behavior
[05:55] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[05:55] <bobbob1016> disasm, how would I restore it if things go wrong?
[05:55] <mc44> adamy: see the topic in #ubuntu+1
[05:55] <neosb> thx
[05:55] <adamy> mc44: Thx
[05:55] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, ok i did that and it didnt do any thing
[05:55] <disasm> bobbob1016: get a boot cd that has partimage (there are tons) I think insert.cd may, and I'm pretty sure knoppix does as well, I don't know about ubuntu live cd
[05:55] <ompaul> xtknight_school thanks
[05:56] <lesshaste> anyone?
[05:56] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: try mplayer -ao oss /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav ...test again
[05:56] <bobbob1016> disasm, last thing, can I image while using ubuntu, or should I use knoppix?
[05:56] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, nope still dont work
[05:57] <neosb> where is configuration directory of azerus installed by Synaptic??
[05:57] <xtknight_school> neosb: dpkg -L azureus
[05:57] <xtknight_school> neosb it may give you a clue
[05:57] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: well good luck i am out of ideas
[05:57] <xtknight_school> aeonix whats the problem?
[05:57] <bobbob1016> disasm, nm, I just found out it doesn't work on mounted partitions
[05:57] <disasm> bobbob1016: don't image a running system, so if you have 2 ubuntu's installed, you could image from ubuntu, but otherwise use a live cd
[05:57] <Mike834> Someone help me please :(
[05:57] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, lol thanks
[05:57] <bobbob1016> disasm, thanks
[05:57] <disasm> bobbob1016: I tend to have 4 linux root partitions, so I just image from one of the ones I'm not upgrading
[05:57] <StucKman> I can't find the page with the packages of each release. I'm lloking for breezy's kernel version
[05:58] <StucKman> looking*
[05:58] <neosb> thx, xtknight_shool
[05:58] <aeonix> xtknight_school, i cant get alisa to work
[05:58] <tekm8> StucKman, are you in breezy now?
[05:58] <xtknight_school> aeonix alisa or alsa?
[05:58] <boubbin> 'uname -a' to see what kernel im using, even when its "generic" ? ?
[05:58] <dr34mc0d3r> i have been looking for a tutorial on setting up a pop/smtp mail server for a domain - all the toturials i found are complicated for noobs - anyone have a noob tutorial for setting up a mail server????
[05:58] <StucKman> tekm8: no
[05:58] <aeonix> xtknight_school, alsa
[05:58] <chjunior> how to enable mysql persistent in PHP on Ubuntu?
[05:58] <xtknight_school> !lamp
[05:58] <StucKman> dapper here
[05:58] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:58] <xtknight_school> aeonix i take it your sound doesnt work?
[05:59] <aeonix> xtknight_school, yep
[05:59] <eodcho1> I was wondering...I am running feisty beta now. If i run apt-get upgrade will it provide me with the packages for the release candidate?
[05:59] <disasm> xtknight_school: all the legacy debian machines that haven't been upgraded yet all show this from dmesg: nfs: server crux not responding, still trying  nfs: server crux OK, the ubuntu machines freezed as well, and don't have any errors in dmesg notifying of the freeze
[05:59] <StucKman> can I use ubotu to find that out?
[05:59] <Mike834> !ndiswrapper
[05:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:59] <StucKman> eodcho1: if you update and you're connected to the net, yes, it should
[05:59] <aeonix> xtknight_school, i been working with fiery_cleric and thay ran out of ideas
[05:59] <Mike834> !offline Ubuntu installation
[05:59] <fiery_cleric> yeah
[06:00] <loca|host> anyone know howto use ubuntu-calendar package to embed calendars into desktop wallpaper
[06:00] <eodcho1> Stuckman: so really on the 19th when the new candidate comes out i should be ok. I have been running apt-get update then apt0get upgrade once a day.
[06:00] <mc44> Mike834: the instructions for ndiswrapper work offline, see the link
[06:00] <elyob> Any reason why httpd.conf is missing from my apt-get install apache2?
[06:00] <StucKman> eodcho1: use aptitude
[06:00] <RichW> 2 days to release!
[06:01] <drew> 3
[06:01] <disasm> wow, that soon...
[06:01] <RichW> heh
[06:01] <Mike834> Really? I need to download them on one PC and move them to another?
[06:01] <drew> pre-orders for 7.04 cd's are up :D
[06:01] <Paul_UK> 2 days to release, of what?
[06:01] <Paul_UK> 7.04?
[06:01] <drew> yes
[06:01] <adamy> Yup
[06:01] <tekm8> StucKman, i'm looking through the server for the package, and i'll give you the link once i find it.
[06:01] <Mike834> drew: Just did mine :D
[06:01] <Paul_UK> hehe and theres me just getting round to installing 6.10
[06:01] <drew> Mike834: same
[06:01] <xtknight_school> aeonix what sound card do you have
[06:01] <Paul_UK> whats new, anyone got a page?
[06:01] <alucard> suddnely ubuntu stopped working correctly for me, a bunch of errors on startup and x/gdm doesnt work
[06:01] <xtknight_school> disasm: i have no idea
[06:01] <eodcho1> Stuckman: how well does aptitude handle dependency issues?
[06:02] <mc44> Mike834: ndiswrapper is on the cd
[06:02] <RichW> I pre-ordered a cd a few days back :) Hope that means they ship it sooner!
[06:02] <mc44> RichW: probably not :)
[06:02] <StucKman> eodcho1: "better", for any definition of it :)
[06:02] <alucard> i believe my jfs linux partition (mounted at /) is being mounted as read only, what do i do
[06:02] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  V8235 [VIA 8235] , device 0: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235]  and sound was working yesterday
[06:02] <bcardarella> What's the command line program for download via http? (if I have the direct http link to a tar file)
[06:02] <Mike834> MC44: On ubuntu 6.06?
[06:02] <mc44> Mike834: yes
[06:02] <StucKman> personally I still use dselect
[06:02] <Mike834> hOw do i install them?
[06:03] <mc44> bcardarella: wget
[06:03] <bcardarella> that's it. thanks
[06:03] <drew> wonder how come 6.10 never made it to cd's that are shipped
[06:03] <xtknight_school> aeonix: ahhhh hmm.  via82xx is the alsa driver isnt it?
[06:03] <mc44> !ndiswrapper | Mike834
[06:03] <ubotu> Mike834: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:03] <xtknight_school> aeonix: what does "asoundconf list" sayt?
[06:03] <mc44> Mike834: read the link
[06:03] <xtknight_school> say***
[06:03] <eodcho1> Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
[06:03] <rambo3> alsa : snd-
[06:03] <Mike834> ok
[06:03] <big_bang14> SonicChao, worked
[06:04] <alucard> my jfs filesystem is being mounted as read only and fsck cant open the uuid of the device
[06:04] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  Names of available sound cards: V8235 UART
[06:04] <RichW>        3 CDs requested       on 2007-04-14.                                  3           CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company           on 2007-04-14  ... arnt they supposed to ship feisty cd's on 19th?
[06:04] <loca|host> Where can i find the "Desktop preferences" ?
[06:04] <RichW> It said pre-order feisty before I went on the ship it site
[06:04] <Paul_UK> sigh i just cant install 6.10 on my sony vaio.  i think i might wait till 7.04
[06:05] <Mike834> I cant see anything about installing it from the CD? They just said sudo -s
[06:05] <xtknight_school> aeonix have you screwed with the mixer?
[06:05] <xtknight_school> aeonix type "gnome-volume-control"
[06:05] <mc44> Paul_UK: probably a good plan
[06:05] <Paul_UK> yep stuck on 30% when installing :(
[06:05] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  all i have done was install mida players and codiacs
[06:06] <xtknight_school> aeonix ok type "gnome-volume-control" and load up the mixer.  try adjusting volume and switches.
[06:06] <disasm> RichW: that must be the top secret order from the future site you downloaded it from, don't tell everyone about it, otherwise you'll overload their time warping connection and the link to the past will be broken
[06:06] <Shafto> Paul_UK: Did you try the alternate?
[06:06] <xtknight_school> aeonix i assume none of your sound works?
[06:06] <xtknight_school> aeonix or do you mean just one file has no sound?
[06:06] <surviver> loca|lhost, u can find some of it at system preferences --> screen resolution
[06:06] <mc44> Mike834: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:06] <mc44> Mike834: with the cd in the drive
[06:06] <Mike834> ok
[06:07] <surviver> loca|host,  u can find some of it at system preferences --> screen resolution
[06:07] <disasm> aeonix: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp - you hear static?
[06:07] <Mike834> It doesm't need the net right>
[06:07] <Mike834> *doesn't
[06:07] <xtknight_school>  dont believe ubuntu has a /dev/dsp
[06:07] <xtknight_school> may be named differently
[06:07] <mc44> Mike834: No it is on the CD as I said
[06:07] <GenNMX> Does anyone have a good growisofs script?
[06:07] <disasm> xtknight_school: it does, emulated oss
[06:07] <Mike834> ok
[06:07] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  mplayer /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav works
[06:07] <ajeet> hi
[06:07] <ajeet> guys
[06:07] <ajeet> i need help
[06:07] <Shafto> Paul_UK: Did you try the alternate installer?
[06:07] <Slackr> can anybody tell me how ext3 is setup in ubuntu? I'm reading that ext3 filesystems can store my data in other places on the drive and make secure removal of important data difficult, but that ubuntu might setup ext3 with "Journal Data Ordered" by default which would make file removal possible
[06:08] <disasm> aeonix: what kind of files don't play?
[06:08] <Slackr> Ubuntu 6.10 i386, for what it's worth
[06:08] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  but thats all i cant get it to play stuff from sites
[06:08] <ajeet> with synaptec package manager
[06:08] <xtknight_school> aeonix ohh you need flash player audio
 im trying to get it to play any thing
[06:08] <fozzy> Hello again :D
[06:08] <xtknight_school> aeonix http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+flash+audio&btnG=Google+Search
[06:08] <RichW> Does anyone where i can find a Gnome equivalent to irkick? irkick is designed for KDE....
[06:08] <disasm> aeonix: mp3's, oggs?
[06:09] <Shafto> !hi | fozzy
[06:09] <ubotu> fozzy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:09] <xtknight_school> RichW what is irkick?
[06:09] <tekm8> StucKman, here we go...take a look at packages.gz > ftp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386
[06:09] <surviver> aenix, standard music player gives errors in the beginning due to u need to install plugins alternatives can be found.. vlc..
[06:09] <RichW> xtknight_school: get it from apt-get and try it
[06:09] <keith>  /server irc.irchighway.net
[06:09] <ajeet> for some reason i am unable to delete the packages at /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:10] <ajeet> pls help
[06:10] <RichW> xtknight_school: it lets you control applications with a infrared remote
[06:10] <Slackr> let me rephrase that, does anybody know for sure what journal mode ubuntu uses with ext3 by default?
[06:10] <xtknight_school> ajeet sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/whatever.deb
[06:10] <rambo3> ajeet, sudo rm
[06:10] <xtknight_school> ajeet or sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:10] <ajeet> ok thanks
[06:10] <xtknight_school> !find infrared
[06:10] <ubotu> Package/file infrared does not exist in edgy
[06:10] <fozzy> thx Shafto  :-)
[06:11] <Shafto> fozzy: hehe :)
[06:11] <AmyRose> I have a question on behalf of a friend.
[06:11] <alexIdoia> hey what do you guys use to compress wav file for the web ?
[06:11] <ajeet> is there any way to remove form synaptic package manager
[06:11] <Shafto> !ask | AmyRose
[06:11] <ubotu> AmyRose: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:11] <xtknight_school> alexIdoia there's a very conveinent audio converter in gnome
[06:11] <surviver> alexIdoia, gzip
[06:11] <xtknight_school> not sure what the name is though
[06:11] <AmyRose> Shafto: I was in the process of typing it...
[06:11] <Shafto> AmyRose: Im impatient :D
[06:11] <mc44> Slackr: ordered according to dmesg | grep ordered
[06:11] <AmyRose> Shafto: You threw ubotu in my face when Seveas hates me and banned me from it :(
[06:12] <AmyRose> Can the PPC version of Ubuntu resize HFS partitions?
[06:12] <alexIdoia> surviver, is it a gui
[06:12] <rambo3> AmyRose, yes tell her gnome and not KDE: )
[06:12] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  IT WORKS http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[06:12] <elyob> Any reason why httpd.conf is missing from the default "apt-get install apache2"?
[06:12] <aeonix> fiery_cleric, lIT WORKS http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[06:12] <xtknight_school> AmyRose check gparted site
[06:12] <xtknight_school> aeonix lol congrats
[06:12] <surviver> alexIdoia, dont know at ubuntu my earlier version (knopi
[06:12] <surviver> alexIDia, knoppix it was
[06:12] <AmyRose> xtknight_school: This is a total n00b and he hasn't installed it yet
[06:12] <Shafto> Is the PPC version of ubuntu able to run on PS3? Like the gentoo one can do?
[06:12] <xtknight_school> AmyRose btw HFS and HFS+ are different.  maxs use HFS+
[06:12] <xtknight_school> macs*
[06:13] <Slackr> mc44, I hate to ask a real noob question, but what command do I issue to verify that for myself?
[06:13] <AmyRose> xtknight_school: I know... my bad :P
[06:13] <mc44> Slackr: the one I just typed: dmesg | grep ordered
[06:13] <fiery_cleric> aeonix: cool
[06:13] <alexIdoia> xtknight, is knoppix your audio converter ?
[06:13] <AmyRose> Can Ubiquity resize HFS+ partitions?
[06:13] <Slackr> ah, my mistake I thought the 'ordered' bit was the reply you got
[06:13] <AmyRose> rambo3: Huh?
[06:14] <xtknight_school> alexIdoia knoppix? that's a livecd
[06:14] <surviver> alexIdoia, knoppix is an distro like ubuntu it doestnt play audio
[06:14] <Slackr> mc44, so that command doesn't actually change the way the filesystem is journaling, it just displays the info?
[06:14] <orbin> Slackr: there are a few apps in the repository that supposedly provide secure file deletion.  'wipe' for example.
[06:14] <mc44> Slackr: correct
[06:14] <alexIdoia> ah ok
[06:14] <Slackr> thank you very much
[06:14] <RichW> I need a gnome equivalent to irkick.. the KDE application that lets you control computer with infrared remote. irkick is designed for kde so not ideal. Anyone help me? Tell me if one dont exist (Im a programmer ;) )
[06:14] <mc44> Slackr: is it ordered for you?
[06:14] <xtknight_school> RichW; apt-cache search infrared
[06:14] <Slackr> yes it is
[06:14] <xtknight_school> im not on my pc now
[06:14] <aeonix> xtknight_school,  fiery_cleric, thank you both for your help
[06:14] <RichW> xtknight_school: Il try
[06:15] <mc44> Slackr: ok, now you can help me, does that mean you can or cant securly delete things? :)
[06:15] <Slackr> haha, well reading on wikipedia leads me to believe that:
[06:15] <Slackr> Writeback, where metadata is journaled but file contents are not. This is faster, but introduces the hazard of out-of-order writes where, for example, files being appended to during a crash may gain a tail of garbage on the next mount.
[06:15] <Slackr> Ordered, is as with writeback, but forces file contents to be written before its associated metadata is marked as committed in the journal. This is thought to be an acceptable compromise between reliability and performance, and hence is the default.
[06:16] <RichW> xtknight_school: I dont see any gui apps like that when i search for "infrared"
[06:16] <Slackr> so I would assume you can securely delete files with Ordered journaling
[06:16] <RichW> xtknight_school: rescue me before I spend hours coding my own!
[06:17] <aeonix> ok now what is this about 7.04?
[06:17] <xtknight_school> !feisty
[06:17] <Slackr> mc44, that sound right to you?
[06:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:17] <alexIdoia> the only thing I could find is nautilus-script-audio-converter
[06:17] <mc44> Slackr: hard to tell from that, it seems so
[06:17] <cire> does anyone know why installing ati proprietary drivers causes remote desktop to not refesh properly
[06:18] <Slackr> again, thank you for your help
[06:18] <mc44> cire: are you running compiz or beryl?
[06:18] <mc44> Slackr: np, thanks for the info
[06:18] <RichW> cire: They are proprietary drivers.. don't expect too much from them.
[06:18] <cire> no, was planning to
[06:19] <RichW> cire: They bugged alot with me.. I just went back to open source ones.
[06:19] <cire> but if remote desktop quits the machine is useless...i do a lot of work remotely
[06:19] <aeonix> what is newer 6.06 or 6.10
[06:19] <Shafto> cire: The ATi drivers aint soo good! Appearently sommit like the latest dont properly support 3d :S
[06:19] <Slackr> I'm curious though what exactly this 'metadata' that is being journaled is
[06:19] <Shafto> aeonix: 6.10
[06:19] <aeonix> Shafto i have 6.06
[06:19] <cire> can compiz/berly work without proprietary drivers?
[06:19] <RichW> cire: Yes only on ATI cards
[06:19] <mc44> cire: depends on your card
[06:20] <cire> i have ati radeon 9200
[06:20] <Shafto> aeonix: You can update, if you really want, to edgy
[06:20] <bowarv> Hi all
[06:20] <mc44> cire: you are probably in luck then
[06:20] <Shafto> !hi | bowarv
[06:20] <RichW> cire: yours will work with open source drivers
[06:20] <ubotu> bowarv: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:20] <aeonix> Shafto how do i do that
[06:20] <mc44> cire: use the ati driver
[06:20] <bowarv> First time user here. I'm trying to install lamp om my ubuntu
[06:20] <RichW> cire: I have a 9800 and I am fine
[06:20] <bowarv> and I cant seem to apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[06:20] <Shafto> Someone tell aeonix the command to update from dapper to edgy please :)
[06:21] <cire> from what i read, i need to enable 3d support, is there something in the repositories?
[06:21] <koeien> bowarv: what is the error message?
[06:21] <neosb> I think that linux is not so simple as it mmy look for first time :)
[06:21] <jgomo6> i had to enable cups-lpd (intalled inetd for that). Then, from an hp-ux machine i can send print jobs to the printer pluged on the ubuntu machine.  The problem is that cups print an report befor the job is printed and i can't avoid that
[06:21] <bowarv> hmm... sorry about that, I works now
[06:21] <koeien> bowarv: okay, fine :)
[06:21] <Shafto> cire: try #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <mc44> aeonix:  gksu "update-manager -c"
[06:22] <jgomo6> aeonix: alt-f2 gksudo "update-manager -d"
[06:22] <mc44> aeonix: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades for notes
[06:22] <cire> shafto: is that an irc channel?
[06:22] <Shafto> cire: Yeah, they'll tell you everything you need to know with beryl/compiz
[06:22] <cire> shafto: thanks
[06:23] <mc44> jgomo6: its c not d you should use :p
[06:23] <seanwalter> Hello
[06:23] <jgomo6> mc44: sorry, and is gksu :s
[06:24] <mc44> jgomo6: well they both work the same in this case
[06:24] <Mike834> how do i log in as root?
[06:24] <aeonix> im upgrading wish me luck
[06:24] <mc44> !root | Mike834
[06:24] <ubotu> Mike834: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:24] <froyd> hi does anybody knows why everytime i start an app it starts in the background instead of in the foreground,
[06:24] <Mike834> I dont want to use sudo, I have to edit modules but I cant as im am not the owner.
[06:24] <seanwalter> I'm getting an error message, and the system won't let me install programs or updates.
[06:25] <mc44> Mike834: that is what sudo is for
[06:25] <Mike834> Do I have to edit it in the terminal?>
[06:25] <mc44> that is the easiest way
[06:25] <Mike834> Is there a tutorial>
[06:26] <mc44> Mike834: a tutorial for what?
[06:26] <Smokizzy> anybody here use Opera?
[06:26] <Mike834> editing modules in the terminal
[06:26] <Mike834> i just need to add ndiswrapper onto it
[06:26] <froyd> when i start my apps i would like them to come t the front does anybody knows how can i do that ?
[06:26] <seanwalter> the error message reads  Error: Opening the cache (E:Type 'OK' is not known on line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E;The list of sources could not be read.)
[06:26] <mc44> Mike834: doesnt the ndiswrapper tutorial tell you how to do that?
[06:26] <Mike834> Nope
[06:27] <Mike834> not the one im using for my WG111,It just says add ndiswrapper in etc/modules to allow it to boot at startup
[06:27] <Smokizzy> how do i connect to a different chat server?
[06:27] <mc44> Mike834: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[06:27] <Mike834> ok :)
[06:29] <apokryphos> Smokizzy: /server irc.something.net
[06:29] <drew> Smokizzy: /server -m irc.server.net
[06:29] <reydelsillon> stdin: holy shit iwas scared there for soem seconds....... i boted to windows to see if the hdd was intact and it was..... reboted to kubuntu. now the hdd1 is mounted and i can access it :) :) :)
[06:29] <pfein> is there a way to check reverse dependencies?
[06:30] <jgomo6> from an hp-ux machine i can send print jobs to the printer pluged on the ubuntu machine.  The problem is that cups print an report befor the job is printed and i can't avoid that
[06:31] <Smokizzy> drew\apokryphos, thanks  :)
[06:32] <mc44> pfein: apt-cache rdepends
[06:32] <bokey> reydelsillon: normal for new users. :)
[06:32] <pepsilla> which repo contains msttcorefonts for Ubuntu 6.10 guys?
[06:32] <pfein> mc44: thanks
[06:32] <bowarv> What does this error message mean?
[06:32] <bowarv> E: Package php-cli has no installation candidate
[06:32] <jrib> !info msttcorefonts | pepsilla
[06:32] <ubotu> pepsilla: msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:32] <apokryphos> !packages @ pepsilla
[06:33] <pepsilla> multiverse?
[06:33] <jrib> bowarv: you need php5-cli for example
[06:33] <apokryphos> !packages | pepsilla
[06:33] <bowarv> jrib: I'm running php4
[06:33] <ubotu> pepsilla: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:33] <yung__> I have a XLib program and it is working well with 6.10, but it doesn't work with 7.04 well..
[06:33] <reydelsillon> stdin. Thanks!
[06:33] <bokey> pepsilla: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[06:33] <pepsilla> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[06:33] <pepsilla> right?
[06:33] <yung__> Is there any change in singaling system in 7.04?
[06:33] <bokey> pepsilla: that's for me. yes.
[06:33] <jrib> bowarv: then php4-cli
[06:34] <bokey> pepsilla: you can use wherever you are accessing the repository from.
[06:34] <bowarv> I just figuerd that out :D
[06:34] <crimsun> yung__: we use libxcb mostly in "compatibility mode"
[06:34] <Nocturno> What do you need to configure on a ubuntu VPN server to allow clients to access the network connected to the VPN server?
[06:34] <pepsilla> no msstcorefonts in multiverse dude
[06:34] <bokey> Nocturno: vpnc, openvpn. lots
[06:34] <bokey> !info vpnc
[06:34] <ubotu> vpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 220 kB
[06:34] <robdeman> hi folks -- I installed Subversion by compiling it from SVN -- but I want to remove it and there is no 'make uninstall' or something similair...
[06:34] <pepsilla> im using deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted right now
[06:35] <pepsilla> robdeman: apt-get remove it.
[06:35] <pepsilla> bokey: can you provide me with a REPO that has mstcorefonts on it, please?
[06:35] <yung__> crimsun: I can't use XLib function directly then?
[06:35] <robdeman> pepsilla: It was not installed throug apt-get
[06:35] <Smokizzy> drew\apokryphos, it doesn't work  :(
[06:35] <crimsun> yung__: sure you can
[06:35] <Nocturno> bokey, you wouldnt recommend using poptops pptpd ?
[06:35] <jrib> robdeman: delete it, or reinstall it with checkinstall and remove that
[06:35] <bokey> pepsilla: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages" for you.
[06:36] <apokryphos> Smokizzy: what client are you using?
[06:36] <bokey> Nocturno: can't comment on that.
[06:36] <jrib> !multiverse > pepsilla    (pepsilla, see the private message from ubotu)
[06:36] <pepsilla> wait
[06:36] <pepsilla> i already have
[06:36] <pepsilla> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[06:36] <pepsilla> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse
[06:36] <pepsilla> but no mstcorefonts on em?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> !fonts | pepsilla
[06:36] <ubotu> pepsilla: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:36] <bokey> pepsilla: learn to read
[06:37] <pepsilla> i just did.
[06:37] <disasm> xtknight: the problems seems to not be a problem, it appears the timeout for nfs, rather than the super annoying 1 second of debian is 3 minutes in ubuntu. It just means slight nfs hangs don't get logged.
[06:37] <jrib> pepsilla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:37] <Nocturno> I think i am missing something obvious, i can connect to the VPN server using a windows client, but i cant access anything outside of the server
[06:37] <pepsilla> ok its going now.
[06:37] <pepsilla> thanks.
[06:37] <thesaltydog> is powernowd mandatory on a Penitum $?
[06:37] <thesaltydog> is powernowd mandatory on a Penitum 4?
[06:37] <Smokizzy> apokryphos, Opera?
[06:37] <bokey> thesaltydog: I do not think so.
[06:37] <thesaltydog> how can I read the cpu temperature?
[06:38] <thesaltydog> bokey: how can I read the cpu temperature?
[06:38] <apokryphos> Smokizzy: oh, I don't know then. It'll be an option in the menu/buttons though, I'm sure
[06:38] <flugger> why does nautilus report the hard disks as 'desktop configuration file' ??
[06:38] <Slackr> mc44, http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/secure-erase.html
[06:38] <robdeman> jrib: ah thanks!
[06:38] <thesaltydog> before removing powernowd I would like to monitor the CPU temperature... How?
[06:39] <mc44> Slackr: which concludes...?
[06:39] <Slackr> that secure file deletion eith ext3 is possible, using the default 'ordered' journaling
[06:39] <kaushal> Hi
[06:39] <Deafboy> i just downloaded the feisty daily cd (20070415) and X doesn't boot, can anyone help me with this?
[06:39] <mc44> Slackr: ah great :) Thanks
[06:39] <Slackr> mc44, or that's my interpretation
[06:40] <rambo3> Deafboy, more info
[06:40] <kaushal> I wanted help to make use of regex for http://swp4host:8543/@md=d&cd=//&c=QLT@//?ac=43&mx=50&u=testuser&al=y
[06:40] <mc44> Deafboy: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[06:40] <Slackr> mc44, "The default file system in RHEL is named "ext3" which is, in fact, a journaling file system. However, by default it only journals a file's metadata, so file erasing tools should be effective. In particular, our limited testing suggests that shred should work on an ext3 file system in default mode."
[06:40] <jrib> kaushal: what in the world is that?
[06:40] <andreas_> Question.. I have VMware WS 6 installed, and it have been working just fine earlier. Then suddenly when I tried to boot my virtual Windows it said that CPU speed used was only 3 Mhz (I have 3Ghz).. Looked for a setting for that but only CPU setting i found was number of CPUs.. Anyway, after a reboot of my computer VMware wont start at all.. Nothing happens.. Same thing with VMware player.. What can be the reason? I cant find any l
[06:40] <andreas_> ogs that could give me a clue what could be wrong..
[06:40] <Deafboy> mc44: thank you
[06:40] <kaushal> thats a intranet web site
[06:41] <mc44> Slackr: I agree with your intrepretation then :)
[06:41] <ichmario> HELLLOOOOOOOOO
[06:41] <alex_> hi all. can anyone help me with my ubuntu feisty problem? I belive that my machine won't load the sound server. whenever I play a media file I get an error "can not connect to sound server"
[06:41] <mc44> !hi | ichmario
[06:41] <ubotu> ichmario: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:41] <chap> hi all
[06:41] <shwag> hi
[06:41] <disasm> alex_: /j #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <chap> my name is chukwudi
[06:41] <jrib> kaushal: doesn't load here
[06:41] <ichmario> i wanna know how to tell my system to ask me with which OS start????
[06:41] <shwag> ichmario: that is grub
[06:41] <ichmario> grub?
[06:42] <ichmario> difficult?
[06:42] <kaushal> jrib : thats a intranet web site
[06:42] <shwag> ichmario: look at  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:42] <mc44> !grub | ichmario
[06:42] <ubotu> ichmario: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:42] <disasm> ichmario: /boot/grub/menu.lst, on line 23, you'll see hiddenmenu, put a # at the beginning of that line
[06:42] <chap> i want to chat with one that knows how to use ubuntu well
[06:43] <shwag> ichmario: man grub-install
[06:43] <disasm> chap: what's the problem?
[06:43] <jrib> kaushal: ok, but what do you want to do with it?
[06:43] <RichW>  I need a gnome equivalent to irkick.. the KDE application that lets you control computer with infrared remote. irkick is designed for kde so not ideal. Anyone help me?
[06:43] <kaushal> I want to use regex for that
[06:43] <disasm> RichW: I use irexec
[06:43] <chap> i have interest in linux need help
[06:43] <shwag> chap: you are already chatting with many.
[06:43] <disasm> chap: ok, ask a question ;-)
[06:43] <jrib> kaushal: what does that mean, "use regex"?  use regex to do what?
[06:43] <kaushal> so how would it appear
[06:43] <Mike834> Whats a netgear routers hostname?
[06:44] <chap> yeap but i need help on linux os
[06:44] <ichmario> THANKS UBOTU
[06:44] <kaushal> For example
[06:44] <kaushal> regexp:^http://www\\.mycompany\\.com/page\\.jhtml;jsessionid=[0-9a-zA-Z] +&type=content&id=[0-9a-zA-Z] +$
[06:44] <Mike834> How do I found out my routers hostname?
[06:44] <robdeman> hey all: my /etc/init.d/apache2 is deleted ... how can I restore it/
[06:44] <andreas_> Okay what about this one.. Where can I find logs like an Event Viewer in ubuntu?
[06:45] <crimsun> andreas_: System> Administration> System Logs
[06:45] <kaushal> would mean http://www.mycompany.com/page.jhtml;jsessionid=A93KF8M18M5XP&type= content&id=gpw9483
[06:45] <crimsun> andreas_: System> Administration> System Log , even
[06:45] <Mike834> Where can I find my routers host name?
[06:45] <jrib> robdeman: have you installed apache2?
[06:45] <jshadias> who is a good domain registrar?
[06:45] <robdeman> jrib: I just removed it and reinstalled it with apt-get
[06:45] <RichW> disasm: that looks less than ideal.. i was hoping for a GUI app
[06:45] <thesaltydog> how do I read the CPU temp on a Pentium 4?
[06:45] <RichW> disasm: I have python experience.. do I have to make my own? :(
[06:45] <holycow> what is the name of the app that is frontend for xnest?
[06:46] <jrib> robdeman: it should be part of the apache2-common package
[06:46] <shadukan> hi
[06:46] <ichmario> hi
[06:46] <shadukan> i have a question
[06:46] <jrib> !offtopic | jshadias
[06:46] <ubotu> jshadias: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:46] <disasm> RichW: I don't know, I stick with config files myself, on my tv comp, i run freevo, and for ir stuff freevo doesn't support I supplement irexec
[06:46] <shadukan> i have an IBM X31 laptop
[06:46] <shadukan> running Ubuntu
[06:46] <shadukan> but i cant noway configure my ATI Mobility U1 Card
[06:46] <shadukan> ...
[06:47] <jrib> kaushal: you're still not saying what you want to do
[06:47] <shadukan> i know that there is no support
[06:47] <disasm> kaushal: what are you trying to specifically do?
[06:47] <shadukan> but has anyone figure to enable real gl rendering ?
[06:47] <ichmario> CAN I HAVE WINDOWS AND UBUNTU AT THE SAME TIME IN MY COMPTER AND USE WHICHEVER I PREFER?
[06:47] <robdeman> jrib: I removed /etc/init.d/apache2 by hand... now I removed apache2-common and re-installed apache2-common... but it does not restore /etc/init.d/apache2 ?
[06:47] <jrib> !caps | ichmario
[06:47] <gdb> ichmario: die in a fire
[06:47] <ubotu> ichmario: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:47] <thesaltydog> how do I read the CPU temp on a Pentium 4?
[06:47] <RichW> disasm: Im very tempted to make a application to edit .lircrc for you :)
[06:47] <ichmario> jajaja
[06:48] <ichmario> right
[06:48] <shadukan> ichmario
[06:48] <ichmario> yeah
[06:48] <shadukan> its called dual booting...
[06:48] <Mike834> How do i find out my routers host name?
[06:48] <shadukan> and is easy
[06:48] <shadukan> tesaltydog...
[06:48] <ichmario> thanks
[06:48] <disasm> RichW: lol ;-) isn't that what vi does?
[06:48] <shadukan> cat /proc/cput
[06:48] <ricecom> hi
[06:48] <shadukan> ...
[06:48] <shadukan> or something like that
[06:48] <shadukan> or if uc have acpi
[06:48] <jrib> robdeman: dpkg -L apache2-common | grep /etc/init.d       lists the file?
[06:48] <RichW> disasm: Just want to make Ubuntu noob friendly!
[06:48] <shadukan> then from acpi thermal zone
[06:48] <ichmario> I wanted to know if it was possible
[06:48] <Mike834> someone help me! How do I find my routers host name?
[06:49] <RichW> disasm: and contribute :P
[06:49] <shadukan> its possible...quite for a long time ...;)
[06:49] <robdeman> jrib: yes it does
[06:49] <ichmario> thanks
[06:49] <ichmario> bye
[06:49] <ichmario> ill return when i have problems with my screen
[06:49] <shadukan> so...anyone with the same problem as i have
[06:49] <jrib> robdeman: that's kind of weird.  How about after:  sudo aptitude reinstall apache2-common
[06:49] <shadukan> screen???
[06:49] <ichmario> yeah
[06:49] <ichmario> resolution
[06:49] <shadukan> maybe vga card?
[06:50] <shadukan> u cant configure maybe the Xserver properly
[06:50] <shadukan> ?
[06:50] <tdn> Opening new SSH connections is very slow on my machines. Do you have any idea what can cause this? It seems like it waits for something. DNS maybe? strace available here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=496
[06:50] <Legu> Hi. Does it matter wheter I install Ubuntu now (Edgy eft) and update it then to Feisty or install Feisty in the first place?
[06:50] <ichmario> ill return
[06:50] <orbin> thesaltydog: try typing this in a terminal: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[06:50] <ichmario> thanks
[06:50] <thesaltydog> shadukan, I do not have anything into /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[06:50] <andreas_> crimsun, Thanks.. I have looked in that system log, but cant find anything.. What should I look for. The problem is that I can not start vmware anymore.. It tries for a few seconds but nothing happens..
[06:50] <orbin> thesaltydog: alternatively, use a monitoring app like gkrellm, or perhaps gdesklets
[06:50] <Mike834> Someone please help :( How do i find my routers host name?
[06:50] <shadukan> ...so ... u cant configure xserver correctly
[06:50] <disasm> RichW: yeah ;-) hey, I'm sure ubuntu and everyone else would love it if you made a python gui to .lircrc, I'm also sure people would love a frontend to freevo config files, I may even know some people that would be interested in using them
[06:50] <bowarv> Where can I find my php.ini file?
[06:51] <docgnome> can anyone recommend a pci wireless card that works with WPA2 out of the box and works for a net install?
[06:51] <thesaltydog> orbin, I have just switched my motherboard from AMD Sempron to Pentium P4... so maybe something has to be tuned more?
[06:51] <disasm> bowarv: cli or apache?
[06:51] <bowarv> disasm: apache
[06:51] <RichW> disasm: Also, a configuration file database would be great.
[06:51] <shadukan> u know any other channel for laptops and ubuntu?
[06:51] <orbin> thesaltydog: <shrug>  can't help you with tuning.  why, is it too hot?
[06:52] <thesaltydog> orbin, I don't know. As it is a server I need to be sure. Fan is always running, so something is wrong.
[06:52] <disasm> bowarv: /etc/php5/apache2
[06:52] <Legu> Hi. Does it matter wheter I install Ubuntu now (Edgy eft) and update it then to Feisty or install Feisty in the first place?
[06:52] <orbin> shadukan: this is your best bet.  there's a laptop section on the forums though IIRC
[06:52] <disasm> bowarv: will be /etc/php4/apache2 if you use v4
[06:52] <jrib> Legu: installing just feisty will be easier and faster
[06:52] <bowarv> disasm: nice, thx
[06:52] <disasm> Legu: may as well wait 3 days for feisty
[06:53] <negroi> hi everybod
[06:53] <negroi> y
[06:54] <Precursor> hi 2 all
[06:54] <robdeman> jrib: nope still no /etc/init.d/apache2 ... it does... apache2-common_2.0.55-4ubuntu4_i386.deb <-- is that the correct version ?
[06:54] <orbin> thesaltydog: i recall a few 'fan always on' hits in the forum, try there maybe?  sorry, i can't help you with that.
[06:54] <thesaltydog> orinthanks
[06:54] <thesaltydog> orbin, thanks
[06:54] <orbin> no worries
[06:54] <shadukan> orbin
[06:54] <shadukan> define...through forums..iirc
[06:54] <jrib> robdeman: try removing and installing then, no idea why you don't get it
[06:55] <shadukan> robdeman:sudo apt-get remove apache
[06:55] <orbin> shadukan: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[06:55] <shadukan> robdeman:sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:55] <orbin> shadukan: IIRC = if i remember correctly
[06:55] <shadukan> and then sudo apt-cache pkgnames | grep libapache2
[06:55] <holycow> !xnest
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xnest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <shadukan> and then install the libs u want
[06:55] <robdeman> shadukan: apache is not installed, ots apache2
[06:56] <shadukan> ...
[06:56] <jrib> shadukan: the apache2 package does not actually contain much, it just depends on other stuff
[06:56] <shadukan> robdeman try
[06:56] <shadukan> then do
[06:56] <shadukan> ...
[06:56] <shadukan> yes but doing apt-get apache2...brings some stuff default
[06:56] <shadukan> by default
[06:57] <rambo3> you dont have to remove apache
[06:57] <robdeman> shadukan: I did try it, it said: Package apache is not installed, so not removed
[06:57] <Mike834> How can i edit interfaces in etc/network/ in the terminal?
[06:57] <Mike834> its read only
[06:57] <rambo3> robdeman, read LAMP documantation
[06:57] <shadukan> robdeman...then have try
[06:57] <shadukan> sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:58] <shadukan> what does it do?
[06:58] <robdeman> shadukan: also sudo apt-get apache2 --> After unpacking 81.9kB of additional disk space will be used. <-- 81.9 kbytes??
[06:58] <shadukan> in my laptop works perfect
[06:58] <shadukan> ???
[06:58] <robdeman> rambo3: I did read a lot about LAMP
[06:58] <shadukan> ur repositorys for apt-sources is it correct?
[06:58] <robdeman> shadukan: I am not sure...
[06:58] <robdeman> shadukan: where can I find a list of teh default ones for Ubuntu?
[06:58] <orbin> Mike834: sudo <editor> /etc/network/interfaces
[06:58] <shadukan> try figuring out then first that
[06:58] <shadukan> ...
[06:58] <shadukan> try
[06:59] <Mike834> thanks
[06:59] <Mike834> do i type editor?
[06:59] <shadukan> to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:59] <shadukan> and enable only valid repositories
[06:59] <rajeevindus> gedit
[06:59] <shadukan> u can find them in ubuntu forums
[06:59] <rambo3> Mike834, text editor of your choice
[06:59] <Mike834> I dont know the editors xd
[06:59] <shadukan> rajeevindus...vim rulez
[06:59] <Mike834> Im new to ubuntu
[06:59] <rajeevindus> ok ok
[06:59] <rambo3> notepad
[06:59] <rajeevindus> vi
[06:59] <shadukan> vim + emavs...
[06:59] <robdeman> Shadukan: any idea where I can find the list of standard repositories for Ubuntu 6.10 Server?
[06:59] <shadukan> notepad???
[07:00] <orbin> Mike834: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:00] <rajeevindus> lol
[07:00] <robdeman> Shadukan: so that I can verify which one sshould be enabled and which ones not...
[07:00] <rambo3> yeah notepad
[07:00] <boubbin_> is there something like "New to (k)ubuntu, read this wiki thread" or anything similar ?
[07:00] <shadukan> robdeman i think ubuntu will have them
[07:00] <apokryphos> boubbin_: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:00] <shadukan> the official site i mean
[07:00] <jrib> boubbin_: help.ubuntu.com or your Help menu as well
[07:01] <shadukan> try there first or google it
[07:01] <mzaza> I'm running ubuntu 7.04 on lenovo 3000 N100, and my MMC reader isn't working, while in the wiki it says it should work. Any ideas?
[07:01] <WaxyFresh> im using tor privoxy and tor button yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.com/org or something any ideas?
[07:01] <rambo3> !source.o-matic | robdeman
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source.o-matic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <rajeevindus> i have a question
[07:02] <rambo3> !source-o-matic | robdeman
[07:02] <ubotu> robdeman: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:02] <rajeevindus> i cant mount a VCD
[07:02] <cyris> Hey everyone. Is their away I can find out what temp my CPU is with the dapper live cd ?
[07:02] <rajeevindus> cyris u can see that in the bios too
[07:02] <crimsun> mzaza: make sure you're running current feisty.
[07:02] <Sjimmie> crimsun: see if sensors is available
[07:02] <cyris> rajeevindus: not on this latop, thats what i tried to do first.
[07:02] <rambo3> cyris, cat /proc/ACPI/ something
[07:03] <rajeevindus> aah sorry then cyris
[07:03] <cyris> rambo3 there is a thermal file which is empty
[07:03] <mzaza> crimsun: I think I am. How can I make sure?
[07:04] <Mike834> Linux = Hard to set up :(
[07:04] <rajeevindus> who can help me with my VCD mount problem
[07:04] <rambo3> cyris, cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[07:04] <crimsun> mzaza: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:04] <rajeevindus> mike what is ur problem?
[07:04] <shadukan> ...Linux != food for dummies :P
[07:04] <rambo3> cyris, do you have acpi=off or something
[07:04] <uttara> can anybody tell me which repository I must add, so that I can install "linux-tree"
[07:04] <shadukan> ...???
[07:04] <orbin> apt-cache show linux-tree
[07:04] <rajeevindus> mike834 ?
[07:04] <rajeevindus> tell tell
[07:05] <shadukan> i must go now
[07:05] <orbin> whoops, wrong window
[07:05] <shadukan> ...
[07:05] <cyris> ramob3: i'll check it out
[07:05] <shadukan> but 2 work
[07:05] <rajeevindus> cy
[07:05] <shadukan> ...
[07:05] <robdeman> folks: can I do something like sudo apt-get apache2* <-- wildcard?
[07:05] <Mike834> i just did "ifup wlan0" It said about auto allow twice and cant read etc/networks/interface file :S
[07:05] <shadukan> nop robdeman
[07:05] <robdeman> shadukan: mm maybe a way to search throug the names of installed packages?
[07:05] <WaxyFresh> i have tor+privoxy and tor button installed yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.org
[07:05] <shadukan> u can do something like sudo aptitude || apt-get install  apache2
[07:05] <rajeevindus> u did sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:06] <shadukan> and then
[07:06] <Mike834> yes
[07:06] <mc44> robdeman: yes you can
[07:06] <shadukan> try
[07:06] <orbin> uttara: what do you need it for?
[07:06] <boubbin> my scren resolution suddenly dropped to 640*480 and 60hz, and i cant change it back anymore..
[07:06] <uttara> W: Unable to locate package linux-tree
[07:06] <uttara> E: No packages found
[07:06] <rambo3> robdeman, no
[07:06] <rajeevindus> why u want to edit that?
[07:06] <WaxyFresh> anyone know how to get inside my own dsl modem?
[07:06] <boubbin> also virtual console wont work
[07:06] <mc44> shadukan: no, you can use wildcards on apt-get
[07:06] <uttara> orbin: I just wanted to go through the source
[07:06] <Agrajag> uttara: then you need linux-source
[07:06] <robdeman> mc44: really, how would that work?
[07:06] <Mike834> To add my wireless interface
[07:06] <uttara> ok
[07:07] <rajeevindus> hmm
[07:07] <shadukan> sudo apt-cache pkgnames | grep libapache2  > output_apache.txt ; sort -d output_apache.txt | grep <what u want>
[07:07] <rajeevindus> what line are u trying to edit? mike?
[07:07] <mc44> robdeman: well it just works like any wildcard
[07:07] <shadukan> i don't think mc44 using wildcards while installing something is good
[07:08] <shadukan> that's why i recommend to a new user not use them
[07:08] <mc44> shadukan: if you know it matches the packages you want, it should be fine
[07:08] <shadukan> wildcards...are often a problem
[07:08] <mc44> well yes, but it doesnt mean you cant do them
[07:08] <shadukan> for sure i agree with u
[07:08] <mc44> shadukan: also apt-cache search is easier than your way
[07:08] <shadukan> ...but i think u must be a bit experienced with the shell
[07:08] <shadukan> to use them
[07:09] <boubbin> i get the "old" nvidia splash screen when X is started, i know the new one that has 3d innit
[07:09] <robdeman> so lets say I want to sudo apt-get remove apache2*
[07:09] <shadukan> ...suppose u are right on that for the search stuff...
[07:09] <shadukan> simply i learned the other way...
[07:09] <mc44> robdeman: yes that will remove all those packages
[07:09] <shadukan> and u cant learn an old dog new tricks..;)
[07:09] <mc44> :)
[07:09] <shadukan> ...just joking..
[07:10] <shadukan> me only 25...:P
[07:10] <shadukan> robdeman that should do ur work / job
[07:10] <WaxyFresh> i have a dsl modem and i want to review its internal setting s how do i accsess it?
[07:10] <cyris> rambo3: thermal_zone is empty
[07:10] <shadukan> WaxyFresh:#define internal settings
[07:11] <rajeevindus> ya
[07:11] <rajeevindus> define
[07:11] <WaxyFresh> shadukan: you know how you can type in 197.0.0.1 and get to your wireless router?thats what i want to do with my dsl modem i just want to see whats in there
[07:11] <Mike834> Whats Wrong about this?:auto wlan0 <New Line here> iface wlan0 inet dhcp <New line here> wireless_mode managed <new line here> wireless-essid NETGEAR
[07:12] <shadukan> i think most dsl modems have a network interface to do such stuff
[07:12] <shadukan> ...
[07:12] <Mike834> Linux is so confusing:S
[07:12] <rajeevindus> hihi
[07:12] <rambo3> cyris, :   acpi -t
[07:12] <boubbin> i get the "old" nvidia splash screen when X is started, i know the new one that has 3d innit, Im using old drivers ?
[07:12] <rajeevindus> wireless is still a problem i guess :(
[07:13] <shadukan> if u hook up a correctly
[07:13] <shadukan> and then type
[07:13] <robdeman> When I do sudo apt-get remove apache2*  ... it says.. E: Couldn't find package apache2.conf
[07:13] <shadukan> on a browser 10.0.0.1 || 192.168.1.1
[07:13] <shadukan> depends on ur rooter...
[07:13] <shadukan> u can have access to ur wireless rooter/dsl modem
[07:13] <elrob> robdeman: sudo apt-get remove apache2\*
[07:14] <rambo3> Mike834, you are missing passowrd and you should set that in network manager
[07:14] <shadukan> if u have a Cisco AP then u must use a Java application they have
[07:14] <shadukan> and sips in with ur AP or dsl modem
[07:14] <shadukan> ..
[07:14] <mc44> robdeman: just sudo apt-get remove apache2 should remove all of its dependencies as well
[07:14] <OuZo_> is there a tool that can do project cost estimation? i know about planner. thanks
[07:14] <cyris> rambo3: done and "no support for device type: thermal". is this because i'm using the live cd ?
[07:14] <Legu> I have a problem with GNOME... When I start Ubuntu from live-cd, it starts to the desktop normally. But then in few seconds, it logs out. This same happens over and over again...
[07:16] <boubbin> i have intel core 2 duo so should i download and install linux-restricted-modules for x86_64 or 386 ?
[07:16] <Mike834> Working WIFI! F*** YEAH!
[07:16] <shadukan> robdeman
[07:16] <robdeman> mc44, shadukan: see http://pastebin.ca/444993
[07:16] <shadukan> apt-get install also has a command for installing broken packages...during installation
[07:16] <shadukan> u say for example
[07:17] <czr> boubbin, run 'arch' and tell me what it says
[07:17] <boubbin> sec, just rebooted
[07:17] <shadukan> sudo apt-get install --something i cant  recall...;)
[07:17] <robdeman> mc44, shadukan: and then when I try to remove: http://pastebin.ca/444994
[07:18] <orbin> shadukan: why would you want to install broken packages? ;)
[07:18] <shadukan> ...not broken packages...
[07:18] <shadukan> i mean packages that after apt-get got them..the dpkg-configure process didnt make it
[07:18] <shadukan> cause of colisions
[07:18] <boubbin> czr: i686
[07:19] <shadukan> apt-get install --fix-missing or something like that
[07:19] <czr> boubbin, then go for 686, or if not available, then 386.
[07:19] <Amqui> bonjour tlm, j'utilise presentement le live-cd d'ubuntu car je n'ai plus de disque dur interne, mais est-ce quelqu'un pourrait me dire s'il y a moyen de pouvoir ecrire sur une disque dur externe usb2.0 formatter en ntfs
[07:19] <boubbin> ok
[07:19] <jrib> !fr | Amqui
[07:19] <ubotu> Amqui: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:19] <mzaza> 3~3~
[07:19] <czr> boubbin, you've installed a 32-bit linux
[07:19] <shadukan> really i had tha problem when i was fresh in linux
[07:19] <Amqui> i'm translating now
[07:19] <rambo3> lu
[07:20] <cello_rasp> how do i get root-run programs (like synaptic) to use the same gtk theme??
[07:20] <jrib> Amqui: you would need ntfs-3g
[07:20] <cyberfr0g`> hello
[07:20] <mzaza> who asked me to check if i'm runing feisty or not, are you there?
[07:20] <cyberfr0g`> ok
[07:20] <HYPOCRISY> Hello
[07:20] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Amqui    (Amqui, see the private message from ubotu)
[07:20] <boubbin> czr: yes. its okay ?
[07:20] <czr> boubbin, sure
[07:20] <WaxyFresh> i have tor foxy proxy tor and tor button installed yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.org
[07:20] <rambo3> cello_rasp, move theme to /usr/share/themes
[07:20] <Amqui> hey guys, i'm presently on ubuntu live-cd because i don't have any hard drive, but is it someone who can tell me if there are any way i can write on external usb2.0 drive formatted in ntfs ?
[07:21] <rambo3> cello_rasp, move theme to /usr/share/themes from ~/.themes
[07:21] <robdeman> how do I force apt-get to re-download everything from the repositories? I changed my sources.list. did apt-get update, did apt-get clean, did apt-get autoclean but still it install apache form some locally cached file..
[07:21] <HYPOCRISY> tell me
[07:21] <jrib> robdeman: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[07:21] <rambo3> apt-get clean
[07:22] <_phantom_> jrib: what is ubuntu-classroom?
[07:22] <rajeevindus> how about using aptitude?
[07:22] <cello_rasp> rambo3: the theme is in there.
[07:22] <DVS01> what is the pastebin for ubuntu?
[07:22] <WaxyFresh> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:22] <jrib> DVS01: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (it's in the topic)
[07:22] <DVS01> thanks
[07:22] <DVS01> ahh.. sorry
[07:23] <WaxyFresh> can i get some help configuring tor?  i have tor foxy proxy tor and tor button installed yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.org
[07:24] <rajeevindus> robdeman
[07:24] <cyris> rambo3: so no ideas? acpi -t tells me my bat info, but i also get "no support for device type: thermal"
[07:24] <rajeevindus> aptitude purge
[07:25] <rajeevindus> packagename
[07:25] <rambo3> cello_rasp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2437112&postcount=33
[07:25] <Mike834> :D I love Linux :P
[07:25] <rajeevindus> lol
[07:25] <rambo3> cyris, i dont know you are on LiveCD
[07:26] <rajeevindus> mike834 is ur problem solved?
[07:26] <cyris> rambo3: yeah im thinking thats the reason rambo3, just checking if you had anyother ideas, thanks tho
[07:26] <cello_rasp> rambo3: thanks, but that doesn't work. I don't use Gnome btw.
[07:26] <rambo3> np ,
[07:27] <kerik> hey everybody...anybody here who can help a newb?
[07:27] <rajeevindus> yes
[07:27] <boubbin> my X wont run automaticly anymore, i installed nvidia drivers but i saw the "old" nvidia splash when X runs. then i installed it again and X wont start anymore when i start my PC, i have to use startx
[07:27] <Amqui> just ask...
[07:27] <kerik> I have a wireless card...and I dont know how to install drivers
[07:27] <rambo3> cello_rasp, KDE?
[07:27] <rajeevindus> oops wireless
[07:27] <mzaza> guys, I'm running ubuntu 7.04 on lenovo 3000 n100 and my MMC reader doesn't work eventhough on the wiki it says it should work, any ideas?
[07:27] <kerik> using Ubuntu...so Gnome
[07:27] <rajeevindus> what card
[07:28] <kerik> its a Atheros 5212...
[07:28] <cello_rasp> IceWM. I have to use a custom gtk.rc to set the app and icon themes.
[07:28] <rajeevindus> aah u on feisty?
[07:28] <kerik> I've been told it should work with the madwifi driver...but I have no idea on what to do..
[07:28] <kerik> feisty?
[07:28] <rajeevindus> ubuntu version?
[07:29] <kerik> dapper 606 LTS
[07:29] <rajeevindus> k
[07:29] <holycow> guys i'm having this laptop lock up intermitently.  it looks like the cpu spikes at 100% but i can't get a hold on what process is doing this as its locking up everything for 30 seconds at a time.   suggestions on tools that can be run to track this down?
[07:29] <rambo3> cello_rasp, do you start with gnome-setting-daemon ?
[07:30] <Amara_Emerson> hi, i installed firestarter but it's irritating me. ive removed the package but the policies still seem to be in effect
[07:30] <Amara_Emerson> any ideas how to revert everything back?
[07:30] <cello_rasp> rambo: no, i avoid anything gnome.
[07:30] <kerik> rajeevindus: other than the driver, I think I might have a problem with my encryption...its wpa and in the settings I can only choose WEP..
[07:30] <holycow> kerik, thats just the way that applet is written
[07:30] <holycow> install network-admin
[07:30] <kerik> ok
[07:31] <rajeevindus> ya
[07:31] <kerik> apt-get install network-admin?
[07:31] <holycow> it has support for all encryption variations
 how do i get root-run programs (like synaptic) to use the same gtk theme??
[07:31] <holycow> sudo ... but yes
[07:31] <kerik> thanx mate
[07:31] <rajeevindus> sudo apt-get install
[07:31] <mzaza> guys, I'm running ubuntu 7.04 on lenovo 3000 n100 and my MMC reader doesn't work eventhough on the wiki it says it should work, any ideas?
[07:31] <mzaza> 3~3~
[07:31] <rambo3> it will always be gtk base for gtk if you dont start gnome-settings-daemon . it wont start the desktop
[07:32] <holycow> kerik, no worries
[07:32] <kerik> it tells me that it cannot find the package
[07:32] <rambo3> synatpic is a gtk program
[07:32] <_ali> openoffice base is slow, how do I make it faster
[07:32] <DevLaVaca> Hi, when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from within gnome, it shuts down x, but does not restart it.  I have to switch to another terminal to start it up again... what am I doing wrong?
[07:32] <cello_rasp> rambo3: running gtk apps doesn't load gnome libraries.
[07:33] <kerik> holycow: can you tell me where to figure out if it has found a driver for the card? - just so I don't look the wrong place?
[07:33] <WaxyFresh>  can i get some help configuring tor?  i have tor foxy proxy tor and tor button installed yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.org
[07:33] <cello_rasp> rambo3: icewm desktop runs fine w/out gnome
[07:33] <holycow> kerik, if it doesn't work out of the box it's not supported
[07:33] <kerik> ok..simple as that?
[07:33] <holycow> almost
[07:33] <cello_rasp> rambo3: you can set theme of apps by adding lines to gtkrc
[07:33] <mzaza> Anyone here have any experience with running linux on lenovo 3000 N100 or in hardware drivers????
[07:33] <kerik> I suppose that means the mad wifi is already installed?
[07:33] <holycow> kerik, basically there is eitehr an open source driver or its not
[07:33] <holycow> yes
[07:33] <kerik> ok
[07:34] <holycow> there is the edge case that you have a newer chipset
[07:34] <WaxyFresh>  can i get some help configuring tor?  i have tor foxy proxy tor and tor button installed yet my ip still shows up on whatsmyip.org
[07:34] <holycow> and the open source drivers aren't supported in latest kernel yet
[07:34] <kerik> but about the network-admin...how do I install when it cannot find the package?
[07:34] <rajeevindus> try mad wifi
[07:34] <holycow> that happens, you should google up yoru wireless chipset to make sure its supported
[07:34] <_ali> Working with OpenOffice is very slow, how do I make it faster?
[07:34] <rajeevindus> it supports atheros
[07:34] <mzaza> guys, I'm running ubuntu 7.04 on lenovo 3000 n100 and my MMC reader doesn't work eventhough on the wiki it says it should work, any ideas?
[07:34] <kerik> madwifi should support my card
[07:34] <gudziu> does anyone have a properly working version of winamp ( properly working under the control of wine )?
[07:34] <kerik> right you are rajeevindus
[07:35] <rajeevindus> u installed it
[07:35] <rajeevindus> ?
[07:35] <kerik> it cannot find the network-admin package if that's what you mean
[07:35] <Mike834> How come AMSN lags so bad on my system? P3,256MB Ram, 2.2GB HDD
[07:35] <rajeevindus> forget about network admin
[07:35] <cello_rasp> rambo3: thanks for the tip about gnome-settings-daemon tho
[07:35] <kerik> ok..
[07:35] <rajeevindus> install madwifi tools
[07:36] <alegret> hola
[07:36] <kerik> rajeevindus: what are they called in the terminal?
[07:36] <kerik> if you know what I meajn
[07:36] <rajeevindus> apt- get madwifi-tools
[07:36] <rajeevindus> sudo
[07:36] <kerik> thanx..I'll try that...
[07:36] <rajeevindus> :)
[07:36] <alegret> help me please, its my first time
[07:36] <rambo3> cello_rasp i dont care
[07:36] <holycow> rajeevindus, what does madwifi tools give him?
[07:36] <gudziu> so what about that winamp installation?
[07:37] <Mike834> Amsn lags soo much :'(
[07:37] <holycow> thats only cli interface right?
[07:37] <kerik> rajeevindus: it cannot find that package either...do you think I need updating my source list?
[07:37] <RichW> Mike834: Unless you desperatly need webcam support and special msn features.. use gaim
[07:38] <rajeevindus> its CLI ?
[07:38] <rajeevindus> hmm not sure about that
[07:38] <holycow> so what does it do?
[07:38] <rajeevindus> but its for configuring the atheros driver
[07:38] <holycow> i don't see anything there that is usefull for a newb
[07:38] <bobesponja> where can I download feisty beta?
[07:38] <holycow> why would you then tell him to forget about network-admin?
[07:38] <bobesponja> all the links seem dead
[07:38] <Mike834> GAIM loads up and then suddenly shut down :S
[07:39] <rajeevindus> cos i couldnt find it :)
[07:39] <rajeevindus> sorry
[07:39] <rajeevindus> no offence
[07:39] <holycow> however the other qeustion is good, what heppened to network admin, i can't find it either
[07:39] <holycow> none taken
[07:39] <rajeevindus> lol
[07:39] <holycow> our just giving him stupid advice
[07:39] <holycow> he needs a ui to acces wpa network and you give him a tool that forces him to only config a file instead of a nice interface
[07:39] <Mike834> Why does Gaim shut down as soon as I log in :
[07:39] <rajeevindus> grr ok sorry about that
[07:40] <D3b|4n> i need help
[07:40] <rajeevindus> wait i ll search a bit
[07:40] <holycow> kerik, you still need madwifi tools if you have a card that requires the stuff
[07:40] <holycow> !network-admin
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network-admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <holycow> !networkadmin
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networkadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <D3b|4n> i am webmaster i need the theme for using on ubuntu.com in drupal
[07:40] <kerik> holycow: yeah but I cannot find any of the packages..
[07:41] <kerik> holycow: I still need the network-admin?
[07:41] <holycow> ah got it
[07:41] <holycow> network-manager
[07:41] <fabiim> first there was a storm , then a bunch of error's , then a reboot , then more error's , then a root console , and here i am . My data look's like lost ! how can i see what happened ( the start of ubuntu , and all messages send to terminal ) ?
[07:41] <holycow> the answer is yes he's giving you only half the info
[07:41] <holycow> you can use madwifi tools to config a madwifi card yes
[07:42] <Mike834> anyone, Why does Gaim Shut down as soon as i log in
[07:42] <holycow> but it doesn't provide an gui interface
[07:42] <DVS01> i am trying to play doom3 in fullscreen mode. it stays with X's resolution without changing it, and ends up not taking up the entire screen, with black all around it. is this a common issue with fullscreen games?
[07:42] <rajeevindus> ya sorry
[07:42] <rajeevindus> network-manager
[07:42] <holycow> network admin is a decent frontend for managing wireless network access, they work together
[07:42] <kerik> will try that
[07:42] <rajeevindus> i hope its there in dapper too
[07:42] <holycow> so both answers are right :
[07:42] <holycow> :) even
[07:42] <kerik> :)
[07:43] <rajeevindus> ok so a good deed done
[07:43] <rajeevindus> team work
[07:43] <Kanzie> anyone that can help me with connectivity-issues when trying to connect to my ftp-server
[07:43] <rajeevindus> kerik u found network-manager?
[07:43] <POVaddct> fabiim: a storm? do you mean a power outage?
[07:43] <fabiim> yes
[07:44] <kerik> rajeevindus: yeah I think I did :)
[07:44] <POVaddct> fabiim: and now the graphical login is gone?
[07:44] <kerik> it's installing now I believe..
[07:44] <Mike834> Why does Gaim close as soon as i sign in?Anyone?
[07:44] <rajeevindus> try network-manager-gnome
[07:44] <rajeevindus> also
[07:45] <kerik> Mike834: I have had same problem in Mandriva...but no clue why
[07:45] <fabiim> POVaddct: well , i did startx and it went ok . but the system it's odd , i got a root user . No existence of my normal user home folder .
[07:45] <holycow> okay guys i'm having seemingly random system freezes for about 30 sec at a time.  i haven't been able to track down the process that does this.  any suggestions on tools i can use to track down the issue?
[07:45] <kerik> rajeevindus: installed both now...
[07:45] <rajeevindus> cool
[07:45] <Andeh> Hello
[07:46] <POVaddct> fabiim: how do you log in? directly logging in as root is not supported in ubuntu
[07:46] <rajeevindus> so now what
[07:46] <kerik> rajeevindus: whats next?
[07:46] <kerik> :)
[07:46] <rajeevindus> lol
[07:46] <Andeh> Is it possible to convert my entire linux filesystem to Reiser4?
[07:46] <zPacKRat_> Mike834: I had the same issue and it was corrupt data in my user .gaim folder, I deleted it and reconfigured my accounts and all is fine now
[07:46] <kerik> :)
[07:46] <rajeevindus> i have wired connection
[07:46] <rajeevindus> check in accessories or system > admin
[07:47] <rajeevindus> if that appears
[07:47] <Lumbago> Hello, is anyone else having problems updating repositories residing on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <fabiim> POVaddct: i didn't been prompt for user/password selection , i just got a root console without asking lol
[07:47] <Andeh> Is it possible to change my filesystem into ReiserFS somehow?
[07:47] <Mike834> Sorry,Which data do i delete in my gaim folder?
[07:47] <fabiim> i will reboot again
[07:47] <fabiim> wait
[07:47] <Andeh> And keep all the stuff?
[07:47] <POVaddct> fabiim: then the filesystem is damaged
[07:48] <Andeh> If i convert my filesystem into ReiserFS will it still work?
[07:48] <Mike834> which gaim stuff do i delete?
[07:48] <holycow> Andeh, not 'change' no.  you can reformat
[07:48] <holycow> not convert
[07:48] <tia> ola
[07:48] <POVaddct> fabiim: i wonder why this only happens to others. i never had a permanent filesystem damage caused by power outage.
[07:48] <Lumbago> Hello, is anyone else having problems updating repositories residing on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <holycow> Andeh, you can only reformat it as something else, it means you haveto reinstall so technically yes it will work
[07:49] <ardchoille> Lumbago: I have a command that will fix that if you want.
[07:49] <Andeh> holycow: Ok... so if i wanted to have my system on REISERFS i would need to boot onto ubuntu livecd, use GParted and copy my sys into a tar on my external drive, format and copy back?
[07:49] <Andeh> holycow: Sounds nice...
[07:49] <rajeevindus> kerik?
[07:49] <Mike834> Lumbago,Yes.
[07:49] <kerik> rajeevindus: yeah
[07:49] <holycow> Andeh, well maybe yes but you will have a grub problem
[07:49] <Lumbago> MIKE834: yeah, I'm interested...
[07:49] <rajeevindus> system > admin > network
[07:49] <syn_jet> Lumbago:  nope, I updated a few hrs back, and it was fine
[07:50] <Andeh> holycow: What kind of problem and how would i fix it?
[07:50] <cyris> Whats the equivalent of Windows ScanDisk on ubuntu ? I'm using a dapper livecd and i wanna test an ide drive for errors :S
[07:50] <holycow> grub wants to be on the first sector right AFTER the boot sector so you wont be able to untar
[07:50] <holycow> its will be faster to just reformat and reinstall
[07:50] <holycow> and just copy over your home dir
[07:50] <salty-horse> did anyone get hibernate to work on feisty? After the machine starts and shows some usb hid messages all I see is a black screen and the keyboard's lock keys don't respond
[07:50] <Andeh> holycow: oh... What about my installed aps?
[07:50] <POVaddct> cyris: fsck. but read the manpage first.
[07:50] <Andeh> Is there a way to save a list and use that to reinstall or will i have to apt-get them manually?
[07:51] <cyris> POVaddct: thanks
[07:51] <kerik> rajeevindus: I am there :)
[07:51] <rajeevindus> kerik: i believe network-manager-gnome installed by default
[07:51] <holycow> Andeh, i don't have a system worked out how to copy/paste stuff back and forth that way.  technically ifyou reinstalled than copied your tared over top of that system it should bring everything back to before but i've never tried it
[07:51] <kerik> :) ok
[07:51] <rajeevindus> how come u had to install now?
[07:51] <rajeevindus> ok nvm
[07:51] <rajeevindus> is it working?
[07:51] <Andeh> holycow: Thanks! And is it possible to somehow compress a drive? Cause my homefolder is huge and putting some of the stuff into some kind of compressed thing it would help.
[07:51] <holycow> Andeh, i guess my answer is half an answer, it should give you basic info, you will haveto search for the rest
[07:52] <kerik> rajeevindus: I will know in 2 min
[07:52] <rajeevindus> lol
[07:52] <holycow> never did that either, don't know.  depends on the file system
[07:52] <rajeevindus> :)
[07:52] <holycow> why are you using reiser4?
[07:52] <Lumbago> currently I just commented all us.archive.ubuntu.com in my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:52] <holycow> its not exactly considered stable and production proven
[07:52] <Mike834> Someone tell me how to fix GaIM :(
[07:52] <holycow> also hans reiser is in jail facing murder charges and no one is maintaining reiser it seems
[07:52] <ardchoille> Lumbago: sudo sed -i.backup 's|us.archive|archive|g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[07:52] <holycow> your kinda gambling there
[07:52] <rajeevindus> what in gaim?
[07:52] <kerik> rajeevindus: I still cannot choose wpa...but how do I know if it is working?
[07:52] <Andeh> holycow: apparently linux is happy with just copying stuff, no registry shit to worry about, so it should work. Dunno about grub tho.
[07:52] <Andeh> I think i'll just install XUBUNTU since im going for speed anyway :-D
[07:53] <Mike834> It closes as soon as i log in on MSN.
[07:53] <rajeevindus> kerik:sorry i dont know either
[07:53] <kerik> :)
[07:53] <rajeevindus> wait i ll search
[07:53] <Woody_> hello, how can i boot Windows XP from Linux?
[07:53] <Lumbago> ardchoille: Thanks!!!  I'll give it a try....
[07:54] <Andeh> Hey, how could i write a script that backups my homefolder into a tar on my external drive? and how could i make this run every week or so????
[07:54] <kerik> I will return in a moment - just to see if there is progress I will have to logoff my wired adapter...but I will return in 2 min
[07:54] <ardchoille> Lumbago: You're welcome :)
[07:54] <kerik> rajeevindus: that ok with you?
[07:54] <rajeevindus> ya i need a smoke too
[07:54] <rajeevindus> :)
[07:54] <holycow> Andeh, google up rsync and cron
[07:54] <syn_jet> Woody_ using vmware
[07:54] <Andeh> holycow: ok...
[07:55] <Mike834> How come my GaIM closes when I log on MSN?
[07:55] <holycow> Mike834, its probably crashing
[07:55] <Woody_> syn_jet: where can i get it from?
[07:55] <holycow> check gaim mailing lists and bug trackers to see if others have the same problem.  also google
[07:55] <Andeh> holycow: can rsync TAR.GZ it?
[07:55] <Woody_> im new to ubuntu, give me the commands please syn_
[07:55] <Mike834> How do I fix it?
[07:55] <Woody_> syn_jet:
[07:55] <POVaddct> Mike834: maybe you should check for another msn client
[07:56] <holycow> Andeh, no your script .gzips it rsynch just sends over a dif of the file so you arent copying everything every single time
[07:56] <holycow> also google up bash, its super simple to write
[07:56] <Mike834> AMSN lags too much
[07:56] <holycow> if you can apt-get install you can write a bash script to tar and rsync
[07:56] <drewzf> Would it be fair to assume that linux's yearly user growth is exponential?
[07:56] <POVaddct> Mike834: maybe msn is just a sh*** protocol
[07:56] <syn_jet> Lumbago:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[07:56] <holycow> Mike834, how would we know how to fix gaim?  why don't you search for others that have the same problem, and talk to gaim people
[07:56] <Kanzie> how can I mount a part of a ntfs-filesystem as read-only, though it is already mounted with writesupport at another location?
[07:56] <syn_jet> Woody_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[07:57] <Andeh> holycow: So rsync would send a tiny part of the file thats different?? that doesnt sound right, not with GZ
[07:57] <syn_jet> Lumbago:  sorry, it wasnt for you
[07:57] <holycow> why not?
[07:57] <burzum> drewzf, theres no big growth
[07:57] <holycow> it compares whats on your backup server and only sends over a dif of the file
[07:57] <drewzf> burzum: That's sad. I wish there was.
[07:57] <Lumbago> syn_jet: tis alright
[07:57] <holycow> technically you don't haveto gzip it either
[07:57] <holycow> just rsync your home folder
[07:57] <kerik> can you guys still see me?
[07:57] <kerik> hey again
[07:57] <drewzf> burzum: I've seen a lot of original users for Ubuntu.
[07:57] <POVaddct> kerik: no
[07:57] <rajeevindus> hi
[07:58] <Andeh> holycow: So it can handle GZips natively?
[07:58] <Andeh> Thats nice
[07:58] <holycow> Andeh, i already told you
[07:58] <holycow> no
[07:58] <poobert> how do i make the root of my /www directory viewable from the interwebs?!?!
[07:58] <holycow> Andeh, actually i'm wrong on one part
[07:58] <Chadarius> Andeh: holycow is totally right. Doesn't matter if a file is gzipped or not. It doesn't care about what kind of file it is. I figures out what the changes are for any file and just sends those
[07:58] <burzum> drewzf, i think theres a small grow in the business sector but not in the private sector, linux has there still to many problems and glitches
[07:58] <syn_jet> poobert: chmod the directory to 755
[07:58] <sarah> esurge.
[07:59] <holycow> actually ignore my last statement, just google it up you will get it
[07:59] <Andeh> But doesnt a tiny change in a GZIP generate a completely different GZip file?
[07:59] <drewzf> burzum: I don't run into many problems that I didn't originate.
[07:59] <burzum> drewzf, YOU  ;) ONE person hehe
[07:59] <poobert> syn_jet, then i must restart the server correct?
[07:59] <Shirmpy_> why does it seem there are more applications for kde then gnome?
[08:00] <drewzf> Shirmpy_: KDE is prettier.
[08:00] <ToXedVirus> no, console is prettier
[08:00] <holycow> Shirmpy_, their ui is cluttered
[08:00] <drewzf> ToXedVirus: But prettier than gnome.
[08:00] <syn_jet> poobert: nope, you just change the permission (of the /var/www dir and the files within) by sudoing and then thats it
[08:00] <dv_> no, dotmatrix printer output is prettier.
[08:00] <ToXedVirus> console has the most applications!
[08:00] <burzum> drewzf, i was not able to run my laptops display in its correct resolution without installing and configuring this resolution950 or however it was called by hand using the terminal, now tell this a normal user that just wants to install and use the system
[08:00] <ToXedVirus> so it rocks
[08:00] <Shirmpy_> i'm a fan of gnome
[08:00] <drewzf> burzum: True.
[08:00] <ToXedVirus> im a fan of GTK
[08:01] <ardchoille> burzum: I haven't had any problems on Linux in quite a while. Most of the problems I have seen in other users are due to either something they haven't learned yet or something they did wrong.
[08:01] <drewzf> I write apps for GTK in PHP. I <3 GTK
[08:01] <boubbin> i can build any app from source i like ? i read the wikis and got a feeling that when i use 3rd-party apps ubuntu wont update anymore, am i wrong ?
[08:01] <ToXedVirus> PHP?
[08:01] <ToXedVirus> omg
[08:01] <poobert> and it doesn't matter who owns what in the directory right? as long as the permissions are right
[08:01] <ToXedVirus> try using a language, not php
[08:01] <ardchoille> boubbin: When you use apps that aren't in the repos, you have to manually update them.
[08:01] <Nergar> -out of topic- who knows where can i get a free shell account?
[08:01] <puzzud> hey guys I've check all the forums and I can't seem to figure this one out.  I am running fiesty fawn and I set up a cvs server.  I can connect to it on the local machine, but not remotely... it shouldn't be a firewall issue, because I opened up port 2401 on my router and have previously and successfully opened port 22 for SSH.  Is there a ipv6 issue or something here?
[08:02] <Shirmpy_> KDE is like forcing mac and windows to join together. like it has the endless meuns (from windows) and the pretty ness form mac
[08:02] <burzum> ardchoille, if i have to read trought tons of manuals just to install a network printer, something is wrong... and no, i didnt managed it to get the damn printer working
[08:02] <holycow> ardchoille, thats pretty much it yes
[08:02] <boubbin> ardchoille: yeah but ubuntu itself updates the system ?
[08:02] <dv_> Shirmpy_, maybe because of the libs. technically, kde is way ahead of gnome. UI-wise, well, its controversial.
[08:02] <holycow> burzum, actually no thats wrong
[08:02] <syn_jet> poobert: I guess so, that is why we are sudoing..
[08:02] <holycow> burzum, it just means you didn't do your homework and you bought an unsupported printer
[08:02] <holycow> its totally your fault actually
[08:02] <ubd> hello, i installed windows after linux, but while linux (hda1) is unplugged. how will i configure grup so i can have access to windows @ hdb1
[08:02] <ardchoille> boubbin: Ubuntu can update anything you installed from the repos.
[08:03] <ToXedVirus> fluxbox + gtk owns
[08:03] <poobert> still says i don't have permission :(
[08:03] <boubbin> and can i install .deb packages, they are supported by ubuntu ?
[08:03] <boubbin> ardchoille: thanks.
[08:03] <burzum> holycow, i had the printer before ubuntu, i dont buy a new PC for an OS, specialy if 2 other OS already support it (win, macOS)
[08:03] <jrib> boubbin: only deb packages made for ubuntu
[08:03] <holycow> burzum, exactly thats your fault
[08:03] <burzum> and theres a linuxdriver for it
[08:03] <holycow> you didn't do your research
[08:03] <boubbin> ok
[08:03] <holycow> burepe, next time do your research and your printer is supported and you just plug it in
[08:03] <burzum> holycow, cant you read? i had the printer already BEFORE linux
[08:03] <holycow> burzum, even
[08:03] <ardchoille> boubbin: That is, provided the apps in the repos get updated, which is out of your hands unless you are a dev or repo maintainer.
[08:03] <kerik> hey again
[08:03] <Lumbago> ardchoille:  I'm having the same problem
[08:03] <holycow> burzum, we don't care, we don't work for free just so that you can come in here and complain for not doing your homework
[08:04] <poobert> everyhting has the same damn permissions , but somethings i can view from the web and some i can't :O
[08:04] <syn_jet> poobert: sudo chmod -R 755 /var/www
[08:04] <ardchoille> Lumbago: Can you pastebin the exact errors you are getting?
[08:04] <holycow> burzum, you are always welcome to pay ms, apple or a developer to write a driver for you
[08:04] <kerik> can anyone tell me how to get wireless to work?
[08:04] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[08:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:04] <ubd> hello, i installed windows after linux, but while linux (hda1) is unplugged. how will i configure grup so i can have access to windows @ hdb1???
[08:04] <Andeh> Will this work? A cron automated script that runs weekly, TAR.GZips my home folder and puts it on my external drive?
[08:04] <ardchoille> !grub | ubd
[08:04] <ubotu> ubd: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:04] <burzum> holycow, ok, now im sure you cant read... ive told you theres a driver, but installing it is a pain and its not working
[08:04] <Lumbago> ardchoille: it stays stuck on "99% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.31)] "
[08:04] <poobert> Forbidden!
[08:04] <holycow> burzum, what you should of done is researched supported hardware, noticed that your printer isn't supported and stayed on windows
[08:05] <puzzud> /write puzzud
[08:05] <Andeh>  Will this work? A cron automated script that runs weekly, TAR.GZips my home folder and puts it on my external drive?
[08:05] <holycow> burzum, actually no, if it takes more than a few clicks it really isn't supported
[08:05] <Lumbago> ardchoille: after a sudo apt-get update
[08:05] <flugger> How do I change File Managers ?
[08:05] <holycow> burzum, there might be some partial support somewhere but it either works or it doesn't
[08:05] <burzum> holycow, im running still both systems because photoshop does not run as good as i want it with wine
[08:05] <holycow> burzum, not giving you a hard time, it really is that way
[08:05] <ubd> ardchoille: i didnt lose grub i just need to add lines for windows
[08:05] <Sek> does anyone know how to get gok or xvkbd to start up with GDM?
[08:05] <holycow> burzum, sure nothing wrong with using windows or mac
[08:05] <Sek> google has not been very friendly to me
[08:05] <ardchoille> Lumbago: That mirror may be slow, just wait it out or try again later.
[08:06] <burzum> holycow, hehe, theres something wrong with windows :p but theres atm no way around it for me :(
[08:06] <syn_jet> poobert: that is after you enter the password (for sudo), you get an error saying you are forbidden to do that?
[08:06] <kerik> does anyone know how to update source list
[08:06] <POVaddct> holycow: everyone can have back luck with hardware, even when trying to buy a piece of hardware which is supported according to some info on the net. see the different h/w revisions of some wlan cards as an example.
[08:06] <PriceChild> kerik, system > admin > software sources
[08:06] <Lumbago> ardchoille: That's what I needed to hear, thanks again!
[08:06] <holycow> POVaddct, true enough
[08:06] <Tom__g> hi has anyone got aiglx and beryl/compiz working on an r350 chipset?
[08:07] <Shirmpy_> is there a simple way of installing things from a .tar.gz file
[08:07] <ubd> where is the grub.conf?
[08:07] <ardchoille> Lumbago: Was that the same error you had with us.archive ?
[08:07] <PriceChild> Shirmpy_, read its readme
[08:07] <kerik> PriceChild: hehe...do you know what that is in Danish? ;)
[08:07] <PriceChild> ubd, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:07] <holycow> Shirmpy_, no, .gzip files usually contain source code
[08:07] <holycow> Shirmpy_, source code requires compiling and some know how
[08:07] <Lumbago> ardchoille: yes it is....  It's been a couple days since I've been able to update from it....
[08:07] <PriceChild> kerik, ifts a picture of two globes basically
[08:07] <POVaddct> holycow: the fact that one specific hardware rev. is only avaible for 3-6 months makes it ever harder
[08:07] <poobert> syn_jet , not from the web, i am trying to access one specific directory or the root and it says "forbidden i don't have permission"
[08:07] <poobert> but allt he rest seem to be accessable
[08:07] <holycow> Shirmpy_, occasionally a zip file will contain a precompiled binary, and htose you simply just click on.  one example is the linux release of firefox
[08:08] <PriceChild> kerik, there is #ubuntu-nl if you need help :)
[08:08] <POVaddct> holycow: s/ever/even
[08:08] <holycow> POVaddct, sure i've run into that
[08:08] <Lumbago> ardchoille: I thought it might have something to do with the new release coming out soon why it's been unaccessible...
[08:08] <Shirmpy_> ok thanks holycow
[08:08] <ardchoille> Lumbago: Ok, you can keep your sources.list as is or restore from the sources.list.backup. either is fine and is your call.
[08:08] <ubd> PriceChild: should i change grub.conf or menu.1st
[08:08] <holycow> burzum, i should appologize, POVaddct is right.  maybe your hardware isn't supported 'just yet'
[08:08] <syn_jet> poobert: sudo chmod 755 directory_location_name_that_is_unacessible
[08:08] <kerik> PriceChild: nl - I don't know dutch :)
[08:08] <PriceChild> kerik, bah... there's a danish channel too :P
[08:09] <kerik> PriceChild: I cannot see the 2 globes
[08:09] <PriceChild> ubd, its menu.lst that is used by ubuntu I thought...
[08:09] <poobert> if i put the full path of the directory i'm trying to access it shows it, but if i try to go a directory or two up (but not the root of /var/www) it says forbidden!
[08:09] <Lumbago> ardchoille: so i take it archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com are mirrors of each other then?
[08:09] <burzum> holycow, na, that was not the point anyways ;) but im afk now
[08:09] <Lumbago> ardchoille: silly question, never mind...
[08:09] <arne_> Can someone tell me how do I start ubuntu edgy in run level 3 ?
[08:09] <POVaddct> kerik: er du dansk?
[08:10] <Tom__g> arne_ : add 3 onto ur grub prompt
[08:10] <syn_jet> poobert: could you be more specific? what is the location of the dir you cant access via web?
[08:10] <ardchoille> Lumbago: One is a US mirror, yes. The command I gave you, the "-i.backup" bit made a backup of your sources.list before editing it, just in case you wanted to restore later. Have a look in /etc/apt
[08:10] <kerik> POVaddct: det er jeg da i hvert fald:)
[08:10] <Lumbago> ardchoille: oic...  clever!
[08:10] <ardchoille> :)
[08:11] <POVaddct> kerik: sorry, i only know very few danish, and this channel is english only anyway :)
[08:11] <poobert> say "/var/www/poo" is forbidden, but "/var/www/poo/sticks" is
[08:11] <kerik> POVaddct: right you are... :)
[08:11] <kerik> POVaddct: where are you from since you know danish?
[08:11] <POVaddct> kerik: germany
[08:12] <kerik> POVaddct: that explains alot ;)
[08:12] <POVaddct> kerik: hehe
[08:12] <syn_jet> poobert: your naming convention is laudable :D
[08:12] <rajeevindus> kerik
[08:12] <kerik> POVaddct: you shouldn't by any chance be a master of wireless?
[08:12] <rajeevindus> solved?
[08:12] <Tom__g> has anyone got aiglx and beryl/compiz working on an r350 chipset?
[08:12] <kerik> rajeevindus: no not at all...
[08:12] <rajeevindus> damn
[08:12] <Sek> any ideas on embedding xvkbd or any other onscreen keyboard on my gdm screen?
[08:12] <POVaddct> kerik: depends on which card you have and what you want to do
[08:13] <rajeevindus> u cant connect to internet at all?
[08:13] <kerik> rajeevindus: however I have seen in my network tools that there is nothing working with the card...
[08:13] <Sivik> how do i get around the problem of wpa-gui not being able to connect to my device
[08:13] <kerik> POVaddct: well :) I wanna use it...it's an atheros
[08:13] <rajeevindus> :(
[08:13] <kerik> rajeevindus: not at all..
[08:13] <syn_jet> poobert: chmod 755 -R /var/www/poo/sticks/ or go inside the dir and chmod all the files in there
[08:13] <kerik> rajeevindus: only wired
[08:13] <POVaddct> kerik: atheros should be supported well if it is not too new chipset revision
[08:14] <POVaddct> kerik: do you already have a ath0 interface?
[08:14] <Enverex> Does anyone know how to get Exim to accept SSL SMTP connections?
[08:14] <kerik> POVaddct: it's an 5212
[08:14] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah it finds that one...
[08:14] <kerik> POVaddct: but it doesn't work..
[08:14] <POVaddct> kerik: any can you do   sudo iwlist ath0 scan  ?
[08:14] <poobert> i did, and isn't that what the "-R" is supposed to do anyway!?!
[08:15] <kerik> POVaddct: finally some command line :)
[08:15] <kerik> I will try
[08:15] <Sivik> yea for sli
[08:15] <POVaddct> kerik: i love command line
[08:15] <poobert> i don't get this :(
[08:15] <Shirmpy_> command line make you feel like you are commanding the computer. like it should be :)
[08:15] <syn_jet> poobert: yes.. that should have done.. not sure whats wrong.. just wondering did you clean the browser cache?
[08:15] <POVaddct> oops, sorry
[08:15] <Sivik> yes, its pretty
[08:15] <poobert> like driving a stick shift
[08:16] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah it must be great knowing what to write :)...
[08:16] <kerik> POVaddct: I have done so...
[08:16] <poobert> syn_jet , i sure hope thats it
[08:16] <POVaddct> kerik: any results?
[08:16] <kerik> POVaddct: well...there is an output...
[08:16] <kerik> POVaddct: what should I look for?
[08:16] <POVaddct> kerik: do not paste the whole thing here
[08:17] <kerik> POVaddct: nope :) don't wanna start a flood :)
[08:17] <Fartbomb> Does anyone know of an incompability between 6.10 and nForce 3 stuff? I've just freshly installed it but my internet connection isn't working, and my graphics card, although recognized as an nVidia variant, isn't performing very well
[08:17] <POVaddct> kerik: we can switch to another channel if you want. i am tired of scrolling up :)
[08:17] <Fartbomb> I'm sort of at a loss about what to do, anyone tried that before?
[08:17] <rajeevindus> kerik: sudo modprobe ath_pci
[08:17] <kerik> POVaddct: sounds like an idea
[08:17] <kerik> rajeevindus: what does that do?
[08:17] <POVaddct> kerik: please join #povhelps
[08:17] <rajeevindus> just try it :)
[08:17] <chytraeus> when i start ubuntu i get this error message: Internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[08:17] <Enverex> Which is better, SSL or TLS or are they the same?
[08:18] <rajeevindus> probes for wifi module
[08:18] <Lumbago> ardchoille: "http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/mirrors/archive.ubuntu.com/" is a quick mirror of "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[08:19] <kerik> nothing happens...
[08:19] <flugger> (Bound Stems  Risking Life & Limb for the Coupon) (04:24|mp3|221Kbps|The Logic of Building the Body Plan)
[08:19] <flugger> oops
[08:19] <ardchoille> Lumbago: Nice, using different mirrors :)
[08:19] <ubd> rootnoverify (hd0,0)  @ grub.conf - what does (hd0,0)  mean
[08:19] <rajeevindus> ya no problem
[08:19] <czr> ubd, first disk in bios boot list, and first partition on that disk
[08:19] <chytraeus> how do i start HAL?
[08:19] <kerik> raje
[08:19] <kerik> woops
[08:19] <czr> basically tells grub where to look for stuff
[08:19] <Kervan> I have a user has root access that "kervan" . But i cannot start KDE with "kervan". how can i start kde with "kervan" username?
[08:20] <ubd> czr: so hdb1 will be (1,0)?
[08:20] <kane77> how can i change completely xubuntu to ubuntu (getting rid of all the programs that came with xubuntu)?
[08:20] <kerik> rajeevindus: it didn't do anything whatsoever...
[08:20] <czr> ubd, depends (on the bios boot list). for most computers yes.
[08:20] <rajeevindus> ya thats how it works
[08:20] <rajeevindus> now try network
[08:20] <ubd> czr: hdb has an unformatted partition in the beginin should i count it?
[08:21] <kerik> rajeevindus: I will...only in a few min as I'm on an important site at the moment :)...but will in a few moments...
[08:21] <yell0w> kane77, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <rajeevindus> k no probs
[08:21] <czr> ubd, if linux kernel counts it, so should you
[08:21] <yell0w> kane77, sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <kerik> rajeevindus: and while I remember...thanks for all your help!
[08:21] <Mike834>  I just farted into my mic xd
[08:21] <kane77> yell0w, yes that installs gnome, but programs like thunar etc still stay...
[08:21] <rajeevindus> but really i dont know about wifi so much
[08:21] <ubd> yeah ok thanks!
[08:21] <rajeevindus> sorry kerik
[08:21] <syn_jet> kane77: that is the best method.. though all the xubuntu apps wouldnt vanish
[08:21] <yell0w> kane77, sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <ardchoille> kane77: Keep in mind that installing ubuntu-desktop may take a while.
[08:22] <kane77> ardchoille, :) it did
[08:22] <Sivik> can i get some help with wpasupplicant
[08:22] <kerik> rajeevindus: well...you tried...that's more than google did ;)
[08:22] <rajeevindus> also
[08:22] <ardchoille> kane "it did" ? It's done? Wow, can I have your connection?
[08:22] <rajeevindus> install madwifi-tools
[08:23] <steven_> I have a question
[08:23] <steven_> I was running 6.06
[08:23] <boubbin> fastestway to see your ip in konsole ?
[08:23] <rajeevindus> mad=multiband atheros driver
[08:23] <rajeevindus> madwifi
[08:23] <steven_> And I updated to Edgy in preparation for the switch to Feisty at the end of this week
[08:23] <rajeevindus> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[08:23] <steven_> Anyways, I finished the update about an hour ago
[08:23] <kane77> !enter | steven
[08:23] <ubotu> steven: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:23] <boubbin> how to update to the neqwest kde 3.5.6 ?
[08:23] <steven_> sorry
[08:23] <Enverex> Does anyone know of an easy way of having an address book across different mail clients? For instance you've got IMAP if you want to keep your mail on a server, what about addresses?
[08:24] <chytraeus> how do i start HAL. my cd and dvd roms aren't being recognized.
[08:24] <ddude> hi
[08:25] <pete68> hi
[08:25] <kane77> lo
[08:25] <steven_> I was running 6.06 and updated to edgy in preparation for moving to feisty. i finished the update about an hour ago, and now I find my screen is refeshing slowly. for example, when i scroll down a webpage there is a visible refresh, making it almost useless. There is also a large delay, though not as terrible, when I scroll through nautilus windows. Any ideas?
[08:25] <Enverex> steven_, Your graphics card drivers aren't installed
[08:25] <kane77> steven_, do you have proper drivers installed?
[08:25] <ddude> very exciting, new fresh ubuntu soon i guess ;)
[08:26] <DVS01> i just installed beryl without using a composite manager, since my nvidia drivers have the extensions needed to run without one. is this supposed to run faster? it seems to be a bit choppy
[08:26] <steven_> Okay. How do I go about installing them? I didn't have to when I installed 6.06.
[08:26] <boubbin> adept wont run, it just shows the hourglass and nothing happens (kubuntu)
[08:26] <ompaul> steven_, reboot and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:26] <quaal> anyone know how to open/burn a mac .iso in linux?
[08:26] <drewzf> Ehh
[08:26] <drewzf> I'm already running Feisty
[08:27] <drewzf> I've been running feisty for quite a while
[08:27] <steven_> Thanks!
[08:27] <quaal> when is it due out anyways
[08:27] <quaal> (stable release)
[08:27] <apokryphos> ubotu: feisty
[08:27] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:27] <kane77> quaal, this week
[08:27] <DVS01> in 2-3 days
[08:27] <quaal> kandinski, i see
[08:27] <quaal> er
[08:27] <quaal> kane77
[08:27] <quaal> i think i'll upgrade
[08:27] <drewzf> I've had feisty for like 2 weeks, how is that if they're just releasing beta?
[08:27] <DVS01> ahh man this sucks =/
[08:27] <quaal> i might try debian before feisty though
[08:27] <DVS01> i guess i gotta install aiglx
[08:28] <Agrajag> drewzf: what you have is a beta
[08:28] <ddude> tell quaal: mount file.iso /media/mountpoint -t iso9660 -o loop -r
[08:28] <kane77> drewzf, you installed during herd releases?
[08:28] <drewzf> Agrajag: But why the attention now? Hasn't beta been released for a while?
[08:28] <quaal> ddude, hmm
[08:28] <pete68> Hi, perhaps one could help me. just bought an external hdd "seagate baracuda". Trying to copy some files from internal HDD (ext3) to the usb drive, i have problem copying files with "special caracters" eg. 00. NYC_ Tag 7 | h23 - h24 | Video.m4v.   Is there any tool to "batch rename files within a folder", so to search files for unwanted caracters and deletem from the name of the file. ????
[08:28] <Agrajag> drewzf: the final release is thursday.
[08:28] <Bupuntu> hi
[08:28] <chytraeus> CD & DVD roms won't mount. error message saying hal isnt' started. any ideas?
[08:28] <drewzf> kane77: I suppose so, I installed way before Feisty's release was drawing attention
[08:29] <holycow> pete68, thats because your usb drive is probably formated in fat32
[08:29] <kane77> was there a RC already? (I've been kind of away)
[08:29] <Bupuntu> i have a problem with my card reader, is an ENE cb710
[08:29] <holycow> fat filesystem sucks as you know, its ms bullshit
[08:29] <Bupuntu> anyone know if is possible to fix it?
[08:29] <syn_jet> chytraeus: network install?
[08:29] <holycow> you haveto rename all files to fat safe chars to get it on fat
[08:29] <holycow> or
[08:29] <holycow> you can format your usb stick to ext3 and use that
 fat filesystem sucks as you know, its ms bullshit <- to be fair, it's more because it's really old than anything else
[08:29] <holycow> and on windows install ext3 drivers that i think are available for free
[08:29] <Adolph> hey guys.. where is the best place to look for help on the 'wide-screen' prob on EDGY?
[08:29] <pete68> yes, sorry to mention fat32 is correct, I would like to keep this format as do still own some windows PCs
[08:29] <zootm> NTFS is a perfectly respectable filesystem
[08:29] <holycow> hardly
[08:30] <chytraeus> syn_jet: no they were working. don't know what happened
[08:30] <drewzf> There's a widescreen problem with edgy?
[08:30] <syn_jet> chytraeus: tried a live cd?
[08:30] <ddude> yeah, actually it is ext2 on windows, but works,without journaling crap, on windows though
[08:30] <surviver> anyone installed steam / counterstrike ever on a 64 bit machine?
[08:30] <holycow> pete68, then you don't have a choice but to name files in fat safe names
[08:30] <pete68> holycow- thanks, but I would like to exchange data with windows PCs
[08:30] <holycow> like i said
[08:31] <holycow> i shouldn't haveto repeat my self bro :)
[08:31] <kane77> fat is simple... I did have a fs written by me, very similar to fat... (for school project)
[08:31] <drewzf> Windows has ext libs
[08:31] <Andeh> What are the two commands for uninstalling/reinstalling GAIM?
[08:31] <Adolph> running desktop 6.10 on my notebook.. and have read most of the online stuff.. yip.. problem..
[08:31] <USMarine> Andeh aptitute install --reinstall gaim?
[08:31] <chytraeus> syn_jet: i'm running ubuntu right now. but hal died.
[08:31] <VR_> Andeh: sudo apt-get remove gaim
[08:31] <zootm> Andeh: "apt-get remove gaim" "apt-get install gaim"
[08:31] <kane77> Andeh, sudo aptitude remove gaim
[08:31] <VR_> OR!
[08:31] <Andeh> USMarine: reinstall works?
[08:31] <VR_> sudo aptitutde purge gaim
[08:31] <zootm> ha, or what USMarine said, that's probably the best one
[08:32] <Andeh> ok
[08:32] <VR_> which is my favorite
[08:32] <Andeh> ty
[08:32] <kane77> VR_, Andeh, oh yes purge :)
[08:32] <pete68> hoycow, are you aware about any tool doing batch-renaming ?
[08:32] <yell0w> pidget!
[08:32] <VR_> purge is awesome
[08:32] <zootm> pete68: What's wrong with bash for batch-renaming?
[08:32] <yell0w> moo!
[08:32] <holycow> pete68, never used one, there are a few out there
[08:32] <yell0w> ::P
[08:32] <syn_jet> pete68: kubuntu/ubuntu?
[08:32] <diputacion> hello agree
[08:32] <zootm> i guess if you wanted something complicated it's different
[08:32] <diputacion> none singing please
[08:33] <pete68> syn_jet - feisty -ubuntu
[08:33] <diputacion> you live in the plamera<
[08:33] <jrib> pete68: 'rename' does mass renaming
[08:33] <surviver> mv
[08:33] <diputacion> mv ' why?
[08:33] <syn_jet> pete68: nautilis has plugins for batch renaming.. gtweakUI-nautilus does that I guess.. though never used
[08:33] <surviver> rename stuff
[08:33] <USMarine> Andeh you should try this one though: aptitude purge gaim && aptitude install kopete
[08:33] <USMarine> that will suite you better
[08:34] <diputacion> one four
[08:34] <pete68> jrib - can renmae search for "special caracter" and just delete them from the file name, and leave the rest of the name as it is ?
[08:34] <diputacion> football
[08:34] <jrib> pete68: yes
[08:34] <diputacion> good bye !!
[08:34] <diputacion> you have free mickt !
[08:35] <ronsel> could someone assist me in getting my wireless up and running? I have a broadcom chipset and have downloaded the bcmwl5.inf driver but don't know what to do next. please help
[08:36] <USMarine> ronsel ndiswrapper?
[08:36] <pete68> jrib - thanks ! will have a look on the man
[08:36] <pete68> syn_jet, thanks, just installed it and will check how to use it - any tip?
[08:36] <locolbd> can anyone tell me why, every few minutes ubuntu kicks me off the internet and cannot locate my wireless connection untill i restart the computer
[08:36] <Shirmpy_> is there a program like gaim, just with more features?
[08:37] <masuran> Hello everyone
[08:37] <VR_> Shirmpy_, not really... except kopete, which is based on the qt engine
[08:37] <Rprp> Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[08:37] <USMarine> kopete pwns
[08:37] <VR_> Shirmpy_, meaning, it's a "kde app"
[08:38] <Shirmpy_> ok thanks VR_
[08:38] <USMarine> generally speaking, kde pwns:P
[08:38] <VR_> yeah, i just hate konq
[08:38] <locolbd> can anyone tell me why, every few minutes ubuntu kicks me off the internet and cannot locate my wireless connection untill i restart the computer
[08:38] <VR_> too damn frilly and whatnot
[08:38] <Shirmpy_> it does, but gnome is clean
[08:38] <USMarine> it doesnt do what i need
[08:39] <savetheWorld> locolbd: well there is a
[08:39] <Shirmpy_> i personaly dont like going through 8 meuns to get one program running
[08:39] <USMarine> shortcuts can be created
[08:39] <academia13> hi
[08:39] <academia13> hola
[08:39] <USMarine> pretty small icons like windows quick launch
[08:39] <Shirmpy_> yes. gnome just needs to catch up lol
[08:39] <VR_> Shirmpy_, all that can be customized, thats not the problem to dislike ANY desktop environment
[08:39] <USMarine> academia13 pleas no spanish
[08:39] <academia13> sorry
[08:40] <USMarine> kde 4 will improve a lot
[08:40] <VR_> i just wish there was a better aesthetical integration of gtk apps in kde
[08:40] <USMarine> with higher code reutilization
[08:40] <VR_> i hate the way firefox looks!
[08:40] <Shirmpy_> kde has more apps which i love. but i run both lol. mostly gnome though lol
[08:40] <USMarine> indeed
[08:41] <USMarine> the file picking sux in gtk
[08:41] <USMarine> so socky
[08:41] <USMarine> u*
[08:41] <VR_> i hate those damn tabs in konq, on the left side
[08:41] <embee_> gmail is down for me :(
[08:42] <USMarine> working fine here
[08:42] <Shirmpy_> i love the panels on gnome. i put wanda the fish on the bottom one. and a set of eyes to follow my mouse on the top
[08:42] <embee_> it's kookoo at my end :(
[08:42] <cecko> hi all, how can I unload sound module which is being used?
[08:42] <USMarine> VR_ not everything can be exactly as you like
[08:42] <VR_> USMarine, but it MUST!
[08:42] <Shirmpy_> my panels are loaded with random things
[08:42] <USMarine> cecko modrem ?
[08:42] <VR_> i keep going back and forth between gnome and kde
[08:42] <Rprp> Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[08:43] <VR_> xfce is cool too though
[08:43] <ieatpcs> yeah
[08:43] <chytraeus> i'm using ubuntu right now. but hal has quit. my cd & dvd drives aren't recognized. and i get this error saying that hal has failed to start. i tried reinstalling hal & hal device manager and that didn't work. any ideas?
[08:43] <Shirmpy_> Xfce is neato. just harder to get used to
[08:44] <embee_> i had the xfce interface on my ubuntu at some point, but wasn't patient enough with it i guess
[08:44] <embee_> i'm back to gnome now <3
[08:44] <ieatpcs> its nice and clean
[08:45] <ieatpcs> <3 Gnome
[08:45] <Shirmpy_> oh i have a question lol, in gnome can you make the borders on the side of windows dissaper. like mac i guess
[08:45] <Shirmpy_> with out install a new theme
[08:45] <VR_> whats the deal with nautilus, when you click on an ogg file, the file moves to the last position of the window
[08:46] <USMarine> in kde you can
[08:46] <jughead> How do I change the permissions for a folder to allow any user to read/write/execute the folder and its contents?
[08:46] <jughead> through the command line sorry
[08:46] <VR_> jughead, chmod 777 folder
[08:46] <USMarine> chmod 777
[08:46] <Shirmpy_> are .ogg nice?
[08:46] <VR_> Shirmpy_, ogg is the open format
[08:46] <embee_> <--- doesn't like ogg
[08:47] <VR_> ogg is awesome son
[08:47] <Shirmpy_> ok, just wondering
[08:47] <yxairyggen> Hi, I'm running feisty, and it all worked fine, but like yesterday everytime I do apt-get something i get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[08:47] <VR_> much better quality
[08:47] <cecko> USMarine I tried sudo modprobe -r snd_emu10k1
[08:47] <VR_> at low bitrates
[08:47] <yxairyggen> Why?
[08:47] <jughead> ok it's 777?  I thought it was something like 754 or 755 and I wanted to be sure so I don't mess up.  Thanks VR_ !
[08:47] <Shirmpy_> is the file small. and quality. i guess compared to wave and mp3
[08:47] <USMarine> yxairyggen signature key missing
[08:47] <embee_> but it's not convenient when you want to send it over to someone who doesn't do *nix
[08:47] <cecko> USMarine isn't that right?
[08:47] <yxairyggen> USMarine, Ok, what's that and how do I fix it?
[08:47] <VR_> Shirmpy_, say if you have a 128kbps ogg file, they say, it can sound as good as a 192kbps mp3
[08:47] <Agrajag> embee_: What do you mean?
[08:47] <USMarine> cecko i dunno, i don't mess with the kernel muich
[08:47] <USMarine> so i dont remember well
[08:48] <USMarine> man modprobe
[08:48] <Agrajag> embee_: winamp plays ogg files
[08:48] <Andeh> Aaaeeekk!!!
[08:48] <embee_> wmp and vlc didn't play ogg on my xp :$
[08:48] <VR_> and ogg incorporates variable rates by default
[08:48] <Andeh> GAIM still has a stupid BACKSPACE shortcut that messes everything up!!!
[08:48] <Agrajag> embee_: as does itunes, if you install a quicktime plugin for it
[08:48] <Andeh> Even AFTER reinstalling it!!!
[08:48] <AmyRose> Andeh: Backspace shortcut?
[08:48] <embee_> perhaps I didn't give it enough trial !
[08:48] <Agrajag> embee_: bull, VLC plays vorbis
[08:48] <spheard> hi, Im trying to reinstate grub aftr a vista reinstall. $sudo grub-install /dev/hda gives me the error :Could not find device for /boot Not found or not a block device. sda is there along with sda1->sda6. anyone any idea whats going on?
[08:48] <USMarine> yxairyggen search in ubuntu guide
[08:48] <Andeh> When i press Backspace, it opens a dialog to join a conversation
[08:48] <PirateHead> Is there a specific release date for Feisty yet?
[08:49] <USMarine> how to add extra repositories
[08:49] <Andeh> Somehow this got configured today
[08:49] <AmyRose> Andeh: Really? I've never heard of that problem
[08:49] <Andeh> I just reinstalled gaim and its still there!
[08:49] <cecko> help please: ~$ sudo modprobe -r snd_emu10k1;       FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use.
[08:49] <Andeh> I checked my Preferences.xml, it doesnt mention backspace
[08:49] <AmyRose> Andeh: But the Gaim settings are in ~/.gaim, and they're not restored by reinstalling
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> PirateHead, the 19th
[08:49] <Andeh> i know
[08:49] <yxairyggen> USMarine, At help.ubuntu.com? Where in the manual?
[08:49] <FireHazard17> PirateHead: April 19th
[08:49] <embee_> that's in 2 days :D
[08:49] <PirateHead> Cool, thanks.
[08:50] <USMarine> yxairyggen google is your friend
[08:50] <AmyRose> Andeh: If you really are desperate, I guess you could just erase that directory
[08:50] <Shirmpy_> well USMarine and VR_ i'm out. have a good day!
[08:50] <USMarine> bye
[08:50] <Andeh> AmyRose: What will happen to gaim if i do that?
[08:50] <AmyRose> Andeh: It will go back to the way it was when you first used it
[08:50] <Lbawinowns> hey guys, can you again send me the link about being able to write to ntfs drives?
[08:50] <Agrajag> !ntfs
[08:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:50] <Lbawinowns> thanks
[08:50] <USMarine> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[08:50] <Andeh> AmyRose: i think ill delete everything except my contacts
[08:51] <Andeh> Ok i have to go
[08:51] <spheard> hi, Im trying to reinstate grub aftr a vista reinstall. $sudo grub-install /dev/hda gives me the error :Could not find device for /boot Not found or not a block device. sda is there along with sda1->sda6. anyone any idea whats going on?
[08:51] <AmyRose> Andeh: But for a less destructive fix...yeabh
[08:51] <Andeh> be back in 15 min or so
[08:51] <AmyRose> Andeh: that's what I was going to type
[08:51] <chytraeus> i'm using ubuntu right now. but hal has quit. my cd & dvd drives aren't recognized. and i get this error saying that hal has failed to start. i tried reinstalling hal & hal device manager and that didn't work. any ideas?
[08:51] <Andeh> see ya
[08:51] <Andeh> :D
[08:51] <AmyRose> chytraeus: Did you just do a fresh install?
[08:52] <chytraeus> no. been running for a couple weeks
[08:52] <yxairyggen> http://changelog.complete.org/posts/496-How-to-solve-The-following-packages-cannot-be-authenticated.html is that right?
[08:52] <mikebro> chytraeus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:52] <justinm`> where do i edit my network config?
[08:52] <justinm`> what dir
[08:52] <Lbawinowns> nope , that wasnt what I was looking for I think agrajag, The article I read had the word 3g in it i think
[08:53] <finalbeta> if you set the file rights to 770, then users of your primary group can alse read/write/mod the files. How do you let users of other specific groups change the files? Is there where linux rights fall short? Does selinux offer an out?  Could I change my primairy group when setting the rights?
[08:53] <SlimeyPete> you can only offer access to one group, AFAIK
[08:53] <SlimeyPete> which is a bit naff, tbh.
[08:54] <alexstacey> hi
[08:54] <Lbawinowns> found it I think
[08:54] <tsikis> hi there
[08:54] <AmyRose> chytraeus: Sorry, I'm not sure how to help you there. Was just trying to get more info out to those who may be able to
[08:55] <chytraeus> mikebro: I didn't see anything there about fixing hal
[08:55] <alexstacey> does anyone know a good app that will do OCR (read the text in an image file) ?
[08:55] <USMarine> alexstacey kooka
[08:55] <chytraeus> AmyRose: ok
[08:55] <alexstacey> USMarine: thanks, i'll check that out =] 
[08:55] <lgc> Hi! I get "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[08:55] <lgc> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages". How should I go about it?
[08:56] <mikebro> chytraeus: sorry, this channel moves fast, tabbed the wrong name.
[08:56] <finalbeta> SlimeyPete: that's scary how limited linux rights are then.
[08:56] <finalbeta> SlimeyPete: what options do I have?
[08:57] <Sivik> i need some assistance with some issues with wpasupplicant
[08:57] <AmyRose> Sivik: OK, what are they?
[08:57] <SlimeyPete> finalbeta: it's more a *nix thing, really - Solaris and AIX use the same system
[08:57] <lgc> Anyone familiar with apt-related problems?
[08:57] <AmyRose> lgc: What sort of problems?
[08:58] <lgc> Amyrose, I posted it short before. Let me paste again: "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[08:58] <lgc> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages".
[08:58] <finalbeta> SlimeyPete: but selinux was created to cover this limitation right? Some other frameworks also exist?
[08:58] <Sivik> lgc: use pastebin
[08:58] <Sivik> lgc: have you done a aptitude update lately
[08:58] <SlimeyPete> finalbeta: I think you can somehow implement Access Control Lists on Linux, but I'm not sure how.
[08:59] <lgc> Sivik, rather recently, yes.
[08:59] <Sivik> finalbeta: yes, but it works in a different way then the way acls work on cisco routers
[08:59] <Sivik> lgc: like within the last few minutes?
[08:59] <AmyRose> lgc: But you should do it before asking for help though
[08:59] <lgc> Sivik, no. Last week or so.
[08:59] <AmyRose> lgc: Please, do it and then come back if you still have that problem
[09:00] <b^j> i am doing a network install using a preseed file.  It goes fine until it gets to the "Select and Install software" section.  Then it stalls out at 6%.  Any ideas as to what is wrong or where to look for what exactly it is locking up on?
[09:00] <bobob1> does anyone know the art form where lots of little pictures makes up one larger picture when you look at it from far away?
[09:00] <Agrajag> stereogram?
[09:00] <lgc> AmyRose, I did it because when I first say "anyone..." I am told to ask the question directly...:).
[09:00] <sorcerer22> hey how can i configure k torrent to download faster?
[09:00] <Agrajag> oh no
[09:00] <Sivik> bobob1: thats a brian thing, our brains put the images together
[09:00] <Sivik> sorcerer22: you cnt
[09:00] <Sivik> sorcerer22: you can't
[09:01] <bobob1> thanks Agrajag
[09:01] <Agrajag> bobob1: no that's not it
[09:01] <sorcerer22> dam umm in windows .. i used umm bitpsirit . which i put my max dowloads to 120 and uploads to 5 i dunno if it helpd but i got good download rates
[09:01] <AmyRose> lgc: We're just asking you to "sudo aptitude update" before asking about apt problems.
[09:01] <CNU> is it possible installing Wine 0.9.35 on Ubuntu? on Gentoo i just needed to unmask it and then i could emerge
[09:02] <Sivik> sorcerer22: the download rate is only as good as the ppl that are providing the file
[09:02] <lgc> AmyRose, "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header...".
[09:02] <Sivik> lgc: that sounds like a problem with the repository
[09:02] <sorcerer22> that sucks .. umm oh welll ihave to keep running it for days :(
[09:02] <Sivik> yes
[09:03] <[selfsearcher] > hi !
[09:03] <b^j> sorcerer22, are you firewalled?
[09:03] <AmyRose> lgc: Could you please post your sources.list to the Pastebin?
[09:03] <b^j> sorcerer22, if so, can you forward ports through your firewall?
[09:03] <lgc> Sivik, you might be right. AmyRose, right away...
[09:03] <tsikis> hello there guys
[09:03] <sorcerer22> b^j: umm see i dunno if iam or not i just moved to ubuntu 6.10
[09:03] <lgc> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <SlimeyPete> sorcerer22: it'll probably pick up. Many torrent trackers throttle your download speed according to how much you've uploaded, so as you upload more you tend to get a better average rate.
[09:03] <sorcerer22> b^j: does ubuntu come with a firewall
[09:03] <b^j> sorcerer22, how are you connected to the internet
[09:04] <sorcerer22> b^j: umm cable modem
[09:04] <b^j> sorcerer22, i am talking about at the border of your network
[09:04] <[selfsearcher] > sorcerer22: maybe you just need NAT (your router)
[09:04] <tsikis> anyone knows how to see the size of a directory terminal
[09:04] <tsikis> in terminal*
[09:04] <giannis> Hello, I try to share a folder from ubuntu and then access it from other ubuntu system or windows but I get the message that contents cannot be displayed (in windows I cannot access the folder either). The opposite works fine (share from windows, access from ubuntu). I add the folder to shared folder by right-clicking -> share folder. Any ideas? Thank you.
[09:04] <drega> tsikis: ls -al dir
[09:04] <b^j> sorcerer22, is it NATed (your IP address will begin with 192.168 or 10.)
[09:04] <Sephiroth> Anyone know how to setup a folder on my desktop, but opening it opens an FTP connection?
[09:05] <lgc> AmyRose, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16156/. Be my guest.
[09:05] <sorcerer22> whoa guys iam no sure how to do that i dont haave any experience much with ubuntu and .. boder what does that mean
[09:05] <tsikis> omg i am stupid
[09:05] <tsikis> tried everything but the obvious
[09:05] <tsikis> thanks
[09:05] <[selfsearcher] > sorcerer22: anyway you can install a firewall too, there are many out there... free
[09:06] <[selfsearcher] > sorcerer22: are you using a router?
[09:07] <sorcerer22> selinuxium_: do i need a firewall i mean what are the benifits of having one i mean i dunno much about firewalls or what i used windows and it sucked and never paid attention to exactly how my system was secure :(
[09:07] <velko> tsikis: du -sh dirname
[09:07] <mattva01> #ubuntu-meetings
[09:07] <boubbin> how to open ssh port, and if it closed by default ?
[09:07] <[selfsearcher] > sorcerer22: a firewall opens only the ports you have to use, protecting your system
[09:08] <b^j> boubbin, you want to run an ssh server? apt-get install openssh-server
[09:08] <ompaul> boubbin, either port knocking or ^^
[09:08] <boubbin> i want to login from a school to my computer
[09:08] <sorcerer22> but how do i knwo what ports i need and what ports i dont and wouldnt i run into problems like if i nstall a new porgram i have to configure it again and what not
[09:09] <[selfsearcher] > sorcerer22: when you install a firewall, usually it sets it all automatically. Or asks you.
[09:09] <[selfsearcher] > !ati
[09:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:09] <[selfsearcher] > hmm...
[09:09] <[selfsearcher] > !compiz
[09:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:10] <[selfsearcher] > :) :)
[09:10] <sorcerer22> selinuxium_: umm i want to but is it easy to get one intsalled ... i have a problem already with strwaming music . from this one site its all choppy and stuff this after i even installed real player ...
[09:10] <ompaul> boubbin, to ssh into a location the router must pass the router - different routers have different ways of doing stuff - I don;t know yours but you need to allow nat to pass the traffic on the router then you can go work on it - however if it is against the school rules it might get you kicked out - then where would you be
[09:10] <lgc> AmyRose, you there?
[09:10] <AmyRose> lgc: Yeah, but I'm multitasking
[09:10] <ungamed> !beryl
[09:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:11] <piglit> hello i need to install ubuntu on a system with a broken cdrom player the system suports booting from a usb device though and i have got a 1 gig usb stick. So the question is can i use the usb stick in stead of a cd rom? to install ubunto on a local hd ?
[09:11] <lgc> AmyRose, I wish I could do that...
[09:11] <AmyRose> lgc: hehehe
[09:11] <AmyRose> lgc: You're Mexican? Would you prefer it if I helped you in Spanish?
[09:11] <Sephiroth> Anyone know how to setup a folder on my desktop, but opening it opens an FTP connection?
[09:11] <apokryphos> piglit: /msg ubotu install
[09:11] <lgc> AmyRose, but women are reputedly better for that than men...:9.
[09:11] <AmyRose> lgc: True
[09:11] <b^j> piglit, yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[09:12] <[selfsearcher] > piglit: you can install the base system with a pendrive too
[09:12] <sorcerer22> selinuxium_: this is the link .. please tell me if it runs smooth onyour machine ,, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[09:12] <AmyRose> lgc: Because women supposedly have a better corpus callosum :P
[09:12] <lgc> AmyRose, do you want to practice your Spanish or you are Spanish-speaker?
[09:12] <USMarine> Sephiroth right click new shortcut, new ftp site
[09:13] <tatters> if i install kubuntu-desktop from apt-get is it ok to switch between sesions freely or can one break the other?
[09:13] <Sephiroth> USMarine: Odd.. I don't have new shortcut in my right-click menu.
[09:13] <USMarine> oops, that's in kde sorry
[09:13] <ShawnJones> Can I use samba to serve all of my music to my wife's windows laptop?
[09:13] <USMarine> tatters sure
[09:13] <AmyRose> lgc: Well, I've interpreted numerous times :) It's secondary, but I have studied 5 years and was determined to learn it. Your choice, but I know castellano.
[09:13] <lolman> tatters, it's safe :)
[09:13] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[09:13] <Lbawinowns> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[09:14] <Lbawinowns> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[09:14] <Lbawinowns> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[09:14] <velko> Sephiroth: Places -> Connect to server
[09:14] <Lbawinowns> what does that mean?
[09:14] <piglit> thankx
[09:14] <USMarine> tatters once you get kde, you won't look back
[09:14] <Lbawinowns> How do I see what process use the drive with fuser?
[09:14] <AmyRose> AMEN to USMarine!
[09:14] <tatters> ok thnx, so whats the diffrence between making default or just for this session
[09:14] <Thug-N-Me> Canonical Ltd., the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today the Thursday release of Ubuntu version 7.04.
[09:14] <Thug-N-Me> is this true ?
[09:14] <lgc> AmyRose, women have a better corpus, in general...:).
[09:14] <Thug-N-Me> no delays ?
[09:15] <USMarine> tatters kde gets default forever
[09:15] <[selfsearcher] > Lbawinowns: install htop
[09:15] <SlimeyPete> Lbawinowns: open a terminal and run "fuser"
[09:15] <AmyRose> lgc: Heh. Please don't try on me :P
[09:15] <USMarine> as default DE
[09:15] <Mike834> someone help me with GaIM, as soon as  I log in,it closes.
[09:15] <lgc> AmyRose, I was in for a nice surprise...:).
[09:15] <Lbawinowns> ok, but it just comes data about how to use the command slimeypete
[09:16] <Lbawinowns> [selfsearcher] , what is htop and how does it solve my problem?
[09:16] <lgc> AmyRose, so how do we go about the Spanish? #ubuntu-es?
[09:16] <USMarine> tatters that's actually a good thing ;)
[09:16] <Lbawinowns> Mike834 , that happend to me aswell, but no more after i upgraded to 6.10
[09:16] <zPacKRat_> Mike834: I had the same issue and it was corrupt data in my user .gaim folder, I deleted it and reconfigured my accounts and all is fine now
[09:16] <tatters>  ok, then I guess i should give it a whirl
[09:17] <[selfsearcher] > htop ? I use it to see all processes so i know what i s happening
[09:17] <Sephiroth> velko: Thanks.
[09:17] <Mike834> Can you give me exact instructions to do that?Im a tux newbie
[09:17] <ShawnJones> Do I use Samba or a NFS to access my music on my linux machine with a windows laptop?
[09:17] <Lbawinowns> Ok, I'll give it a try [selfsearcher] 
[09:17] <aev> tatters: keep in mind that KDE will take over your startup screen forever :(
[09:17] <PovAddict> hello
[09:18] <PovAddict> I'm having a problem with upgrades
[09:18] <[selfsearcher] > Lbawinowns: just a suggestion :)
[09:18] <AmyRose> lgc: Yeah... but I have a private channel I just /invited you to
[09:18] <lgc> POVaddct, Hello.
[09:18] <AmyRose> hi PovAddict
[09:18] <POVaddct> lgc: hi
[09:18] <PovAddict> it got definitely STUCK on this line
[09:18] <PovAddict> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-386
[09:18] <lgc> AmyRose, I didn't get the invitation...
[09:18] <POVaddct> PovAddict: hehe, are you me?
[09:19] <tatters> My PC is  practically on 24/7 so start up screen not too much worry
[09:19] <kane77> stefg, i dont think gaim/pidgim is perverted :) but I hate to use it for irc...
[09:19] <DVS01> this is gonna be awesome
[09:19] <DVS01> i installed cedega 6.0
[09:19] <PovAddict> after waiting 5 minutes, I ctrl-c'd it, and it went ahead with the rest of the packages needing upgrade, then it retried that update and it's stuck again :\
[09:19] <DVS01> burning the elder scrolls: oblivion dvd
[09:19] <PovAddict> top shows 100% time on "wa"
[09:19] <DVS01> gonna play oblivion on linux =D
[09:19] <PovAddict> Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,100.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[09:19] <zPacKRat_> yes, open a terminal
[09:19] <PovAddict> that doesn't sound good
[09:19] <Sivik> oblivion runs on linux? does it do it natively or with cedega?
[09:20] <DVS01> cedega
[09:20] <[selfsearcher] > DVS01: i tried it ... install ok but the patch...
[09:20] <DVS01> with the new cedega 6.0 that just came out
[09:20] <Sivik> ah
[09:20] <Lbawinowns> hey [selfsearcher] , I had no idea there was a process manager, can I press a key-combination to open it? I believe It could help me fix when program crashes
[09:20] <DVS01> [selfsearcher] : how is the performance?
[09:20] <kane77> PovAddict, do you still have your cpu? ;)
[09:20] <stefg> kane77: so using an IM for IRC *is* a perversion, in its most original sense :-)
[09:20] <[selfsearcher] > DVS01: i tried... performance not so good in WIne :| :|
[09:20] <kane77> stefg, yes I agree with that :)
[09:20] <DVS01> this is so awesome.. ubuntu 7 runs beryl + doom3 perfectly without slowdowns
[09:20] <zPacKRat_> Mike834: 1 open a terminal, 2 type without quotes "rm .gaim -d -r"
[09:20] <Mike834> ok
[09:21] <[selfsearcher] > Lbawinowns: just put an icon :)
[09:21] <PovAddict> kane77: load average now reached 2.00, but it still shows 100.0%wa
[09:21] <Lbawinowns> ok
[09:21] <[selfsearcher] > Lbawinowns: the command is htop :D
[09:21] <tatters> It would be excellent if vmware could use graphic card and cards like wireless
[09:21] <PovAddict> there's also a quite deep process tree there http://rafb.net/p/SmCasT30.html
[09:22] <[selfsearcher] > DVS01: yes but the "upgrade" (Edgy --> Feisty) has problems with network cards. Just a suggestion :)
[09:22] <Lbawinowns> Cant I see what drive the process are runned from?
[09:22] <sorcerer22> hey guys can you tell me whu when i lisetn to this ... my stream is all choppy and broken and slow i have a fast conection and i have real plaer installed http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[09:22] <ShawnJones> Hi everyone, is there a way to access a directory on my linux box with a windows laptop?
[09:22] <velko> Lbawinowns: if you add the "system monitor" applet to a panel you can access the system monitor with left click on one of the monitors
[09:23] <PovAddict> any idea? somebody told me it could mean dead HDD :O
[09:23] <[selfsearcher] > Lbawinowns: the "owner" of the process? Hmm... not so sure...
[09:23] <andreas_> After having installed VMWARE how can I install an ISO file to check the OS?
[09:23] <ror> what's multiload-applet-2 anyone?
[09:23] <stefg> tatters: vmware is a transient appearance... in 2 years we'll have hardware virtualization (think of a bios as a hypervisor). Then any OS can use all the hardware natively. it takes longer to get the software going, than to just wait for the hardware to tackle the problem, IMHO
[09:23] <ror> seems to take up significant (2 minutes an hour) load
[09:23] <AlbertoP> hello
[09:23] <kane77> [selfsearcher] , DVS01  hmm I dont know, I _had_ problem with network manager, but after installing all worked well, and now even network manager got fixed (for static config)...
[09:24] <kane77> s/installing/removing
[09:24] <velko> Lbawinowns: sudo lsof | grep xyz (where xyz is something like nautilus for example or your user name)
[09:24] <[selfsearcher] > kane77: i had disconnections problem too. After installing (no upgrade!) the beta it all worked well.
[09:24] <Lbawinowns> velko, what will that do?
[09:25] <velko> Lbawinowns: lsof shows the files open by processes (programs)
[09:25] <[selfsearcher] > kane77: keeping a backup is useful (lol)
[09:25] <velko> Lbawinowns: with grep your reduce the output
[09:25] <velko> Lbawinowns: lsof stands for list open files
[09:26] <PovAddict> okay, it finally gave up
[09:26] <PovAddict> Failed to create initrd image.
[09:26] <kane77> [selfsearcher] , i didn't though :) I had written pretty good ftp search utility :'( now its gone
[09:26] <PovAddict> but top shows the same
[09:26] <PovAddict> 100%wa
[09:26] <PovAddict> load average seems to be dropping though
[09:27] <solitude> I have a 100gb hdd on my laptop with windows XP.  I'm going to resize it to install ubuntu 7.04.  whats the smallest amount of space i can reasonably get away with?
[09:27] <velko> PovAddict: do you have grub and the kernel installed? if you don't have one of them the building for initramfs may fail
[09:27] <tatters> stefg: I noticed some processors  support virtualisation so I guess maybe the hardware waiting for the software to cp
[09:27] <USMarine> solitude 5gb
[09:27] <[selfsearcher] > kane77: once upon a time i managed to delete (read: wipe) my CAD projects too... i'll never forget it
[09:27] <USMarine> proly less
[09:27] <solitude> USMarine, thanks
[09:27] <tatters> c=catch up
[09:27] <PovAddict> velko: I have done dozens of kernel updates on this machine before
[09:27] <danychouinard> I have a background job and I have to log off.  How can I keep it running...
[09:27] <solitude> I'll use 4gb swap, and 14gb main.  That should be plenty
[09:27] <PovAddict> danychouinard: 'screen'
[09:27] <Lbawinowns> sudo mount -a , what does the -a stand for and what can I replace it with?
[09:27] <danychouinard> Lbawinowns, But the job is already running
[09:27] <velko> PovAddict: you may double check that you have selected both packages. just a suggestion
[09:27] <yigal> Lbawinowns: -a = all
[09:28] <USMarine> solitude 512mb for swap is enough
[09:28] <PovAddict> velko: but why does it take 10 minutes to say it fails, and why does top show 100%wa in CPU time?
[09:28] <velko> PovAddict: i don't know
[09:28] <Tahir_H> I have a question about the wireless support in fiesty fawn:  Will I also have support for the broadcom (which requires ndiswrapper)?
[09:28] <danychouinard> sorry, POVaddct , the job is already running, isn't it too late to use screen
[09:28] <PovAddict> danychouinard: it is, afaik
[09:28] <Lbawinowns> hmm.. but i just want to mount a specific drive, what do i write then ? sudo mount <my partition> ?
[09:28] <stefg> tatters: we'll go #ubuntu-offtopic and then we can discuss what Pacifica/VT and an EFI with hypervisor-functionality insteadof an ancient BIOS can do :-)
[09:29] <shedman> does anyone know if I can recover data from a hard disk with a damaged partition table?
[09:29] <velko> Lbawinowns: if <my partition> is listed in /etc/fstab - yes
[09:29] <danychouinard> Let's try something else then, I want to send a nohup signal to a job, how do I do that
[09:29] <PovAddict> I finally killed the update
[09:29] <yigal> shedman: it depends upon how damaged it is
[09:29] <PovAddict> and top still shows same, and load average is 1.00
[09:30] <shedman> how would I find out? I think it's not too bad because I just forgot to unmount once and turned it off
[09:30] <sluimers> Hi, my dad has a wireless speedtouch 570i router, The wireless connection on my laptop can't find it at all when using Ubuntu.. what to do?
[09:30] <yigal> PovAddict: is there a process that is hosing your system?
[09:30] <tatters> stefg: I would if I could understand what  that all meant
[09:30] <PovAddict> yigal: all processes show 0% cpu time in use
[09:30] <PovAddict> and
[09:30] <PovAddict> Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id, 99.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[09:30] <yigal> shedman: u probably have to fschk to fix the partition then
[09:30] <USMarine> sluimers drivers issue
[09:30] <sluimers> drivers issue?
[09:31] <holycow> POVaddct, are you having cpu spikes too?
[09:31] <Lbawinowns> hm.. I just try to reboot then
[09:31] <holycow> mine hangs intermittently and i can't track down the process or recreate it
[09:31] <PovAddict> holycow: nope, just that
[09:31] <PovAddict> slight 0.3% usage from top now and then, only
[09:31] <tatters> My rian
[09:31] <eauxnguyen> OT - can someone point me to a gpg channel?
[09:31] <PovAddict> ok it finally stopped...
[09:31] <PovAddict> but my initrd failed to build... I fear it won't boot
[09:32] <[selfsearcher] > eauxnguyen: gnupg ?
[09:32] <eauxnguyen> yes
[09:32] <|seb|> how turn screensaver app back on?
[09:32] <|seb|> it seems to have died
[09:32] <yigal> |seb|: r u using gnome's screensaver?
[09:32] <stefg> !info testdisk | shedman
[09:32] <tatters> I is running feisty with all the latest updates does anyone expect any more large updates before the 19th ?
[09:32] <ubotu> shedman: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[09:32] <|seb|> yigal: i guess so...what is the name of it?
[09:33] <PovAddict> now aptitude shows a C next to the kernel image package
[09:33] <sluimers> USMarine, what about drivers issue?
[09:33] <PovAddict> means half-configured according to aptitude help
[09:33] <shedman> when I run fdisk -l it says "Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partiton table"
[09:33] <[selfsearcher] > !feisty
[09:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:33] <PovAddict> how do I "configure the missing half" ? :P
[09:33] <ror> can anyone read this?
[09:33] <[selfsearcher] > !gibbon
[09:33] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[09:33] <USMarine> when drivers suck the card gets detected but it doesn't get any network
[09:33] <yigal> |seb|: I have to go sorry
[09:34] <[selfsearcher] > oO 7.10 ? Warp speed !
[09:34] <stefg> shedman: nothing else? do you run feisty?
[09:34] <sluimers> So I have to update the router's firmware?
[09:34] <piglit> i try to eddit the isolinux.cnf file but i want to comment one line out like */ /*  or // how do i do that in a *.cfg file?
[09:35] <tatters> S what do the majority ubuntu users do?  stick with older ditro or upgrade
[09:35] <[GK] > Does anyone know how to configure a network in the Ubuntu Server Edition? I just installed it on the old computer I have lying around to test it out, but I installed it where I didn't have my network connected and now it won't connect to my internet for apt-get.
[09:35] <USMarine> it's kernel issue not router issue
[09:35] <ubd> hello, i dont seem to be able to write on my ext3 parition. i think i have to change its group from root to disk, how will i do that,
[09:35] <ubd> .
[09:35] <Otacon22> !hey
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Otacon22> i don't find drivers for my video card nvidia geforce go 6100
[09:35] <ror> where are you trying to write? do you have write permissions for that directory?
[09:35] <sluimers> ah, so is there anything I can do about it?
[09:35] <Otacon22> nvidia-glx don't work
[09:35] <stefg> !nvidia
[09:35] <sorcerer22> coudl some help me and tell me why this stream is soo chopy for me ? ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[09:35] <shedman> I've got some computers with Edgy and some with Feisty on, the hard disk in question is connected via USB
[09:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <shedman> when I run fdisk -l it also gives details for the other hard disks on the system
[09:36] <USMarine> sluimers try using windows drivers with ndiswrapper
[09:36] <mirak> hi
[09:36] <ubd> im trying to write on /media/hdc1 i created it yesterday with mke2fs -c-c -j in root mode
[09:36] <[selfsearcher] > tatters: it depends. f you need a stable distro (in an office, for example) you have to stick with the stable releases.
[09:36] <USMarine> Otacon22 legacy?
[09:36] <sorcerer22> it says could notfind any appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player??
[09:36] <mirak> is there a way to happend datas to a binary file ?
[09:36] <PovAddict> I have a kernel half-installed, how do I ensure the damn thing will run?
[09:36] <PovAddict> boot,even
[09:36] <stefg> shedman: i see, so /different/ computers aren't able to read from the USB disk in question... Did you drop it? :-)
[09:36] <ror> ubd: use chmod to give everyone read/write persmissions
[09:36] <USMarine> POVaddct boot
[09:37] <ror> chmod 0777 should do it
[09:37] <sluimers> Okay, thank you USmarine
[09:37] <USMarine> and make sure you have an alternative
[09:37] <erUSUL> PovAddict: what means "half instaled" ?
[09:37] <ubd> how will i use that command ror?
[09:37] <PovAddict> erUSUL: you explain that to me; aptitude says half-configured
[09:37] <PovAddict> erUSUL: initrd failed to make
[09:37] <ror> chmod --help will tell you
[09:37] <ror> or man chmod
[09:37] <ubd> chmod 0777 /dev/hdb1?
[09:38] <velko> ubd: not on the device file. do instead:
[09:38] <ror> basically yeah
[09:38] <ror> check 0777 is what you want tho
[09:38] <erUSUL> PovAddict: do you have the error msg? is a custom kernel?
[09:38] <tatters> So 6.10 is the latest stable release, when does feisty become a fully fledged stable release or wont it
[09:38] <stefg> shedman: just to sort that out: you said *sudo* fdisk -l , no?
[09:38] <deep> !mediaplayer
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ror> that basically means read/write/execute permissions for all
[09:38] <velko> ubd: sudo umount /mnt/dir
[09:38] <ror> you might wanna change fstab too tho
[09:38] <velko> ubd: sudo chmod -R 755 /mnt/dir
[09:38] <PovAddict> erUSUL: wow you can install custom kernels from aptitude?
[09:38] <velko> ubd: sudo chonw user:group /mnt/dir
[09:39] <velko> ubd: sudo mount /mnt/dir
[09:39] <velko> ubd: sorry chown instead of chonw
[09:39] <sorcerer22> can anyone help me with this problem please ..i can seam to open this link up to listent o music .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/innewmusicwetrust/petetong/
[09:39] <shedman> is there anyone I can PM to talk to about attempting to restore my data?
[09:39] <[selfsearcher] > tatters: Feisty is still in beta. It's ok for personal use but you know, when you use it for work... LTS is better
[09:39] <jan> hello! I am wondering why Totem seems to be the only media player which is capable to access a file on the network. Would be interested to know why it is? I expected that every GNOME application is able to use the network as Nautilus is for example. Is there any general improvement on this situation going on?
[09:39] <PovAddict> sorcerer22: stay away from proprietary crap like realplayer
[09:39] <POVaddct> re kerik
[09:39] <jan_> join #ubuntu-de
[09:40] <PovAddict> sorcerer22: send an email to realnetworks complaining
[09:40] <kerik> POVaddct: hey
[09:40] <POVaddct> kerik: did it work?
[09:40] <kerik> POVaddct: nope....
[09:40] <POVaddct> kerik: :(
[09:40] <sorcerer22> PovAddict: hey mae yeah i hate real player but how else can i  listen to this .. i really like this channel .
[09:40] <kane77> jan, ?? it is not...
[09:41] <POVaddct> PovAddict: well i have my nick for years now
[09:41] <kerik> POVaddct: it tells me that the ath0 is already setup...but it appears to be down...
[09:41] <PovAddict> sorcerer22: ohh right... then ask bbc to use decent formats? :)
[09:41] <Mike834> Gaim Still shuts down after log on even using that command :(
[09:41] <ax> does anyone know what package aclocal is in?
[09:41] <erUSUL> PovAddict: no but you can make a deb with fakeroot and all of that and then install it but anyway it is an update from ubuntu repos? if it is you should report the bug...
[09:41] <jan> kane77: which application then? I could not manage with any other.
[09:41] <stefg> shedman: so read your dmesg first, then cat /proc/partitions to see if the kernel has any idea of what is on the USB disk. What did you do with it?
[09:41] <POVaddct> kerik: ah i think i know whats wrong
[09:41] <POVaddct> kerik: can we go the #povhelps again?
[09:41] <kerik> POVaddct: sounds goood :)
[09:41] <kane77> jan, vlc for sure and gxine I guess..
[09:42] <sorcerer22> PovAddict: or it doesnt like ubuntu .. and doesnt support and runs into problems and the say just use windows ?
[09:42] <shedman> I switched it off without unmounting it
[09:42] <ubd> velko chown user:group /mnt/dir doesnt work?
[09:42] <PovAddict> erUSUL: the error message was "Initrd failed" or something useless like that; it was like 10 or 15 minutes after it started building the initrd
[09:42] <arfee> hey people
[09:42] <velko> ubd: you are supposed to replace user, group and /mnt/dir with the data fitting your configuration
[09:42] <velko> ubd: i have no way to know that
[09:43] <arfee> anyone know a cheap way to get cedega?
[09:43] <stefg> shedman: hmmm, so testdisk should be able to help you
[09:43] <PovAddict> erUSUL: it was 10 minutes stuck there until it finally decided to give up; all that time top said 100%wa, but no CPU time on the other "categories"
[09:43] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: with Mandriva (lol)
[09:43] <erUSUL> PovAddict: if the initrd has not been correctly the kernel may fail to boot
[09:43] <shedman> I've got it working now, it turned out all I had to do was recreate the partiton table using cfdisk, thanks for the advice though
[09:43] <erUSUL> correctly build*
[09:43] <PovAddict> erUSUL: I figured that much; how do I make it build?
[09:43] <arfee> lol i mean on ubuntu...probably for free lol
[09:44] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: why not pay just 15$ ? Or do they change it ?
[09:44] <erUSUL> PovAddict: you can make the initrd manually with 'mkinitrd -o /path/to/imag kernel_version'
[09:44] <PovAddict> o.o
[09:44] <ubd> volke i did chown but to mount i think i have to add partition to fstab or mtab? how will i do
[09:44] <eternal_p> hi all...quick question, how can I enable incoming SSH connections?
[09:44] <PovAddict> kernel version on this format? "2.6.17-11-386"
[09:44] <arfee> well i got the linux spirit haha...i dont know how much it is but i have no credit card facilities
[09:44] <PovAddict> eternal_p: install sshd?
[09:45] <eternal_p> heheh :)
[09:45] <erUSUL> PovAddict: eg 'sudo mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-generic 2.6.17-11-generic'
[09:45] <velko> ubd: first lookup the uid of the partition you want to mount:
[09:45] <ubd> velko: its id is 83
[09:45] <eternal_p> PovAddict: what is the apt-get for that?
[09:45] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: plus the code is allways "looked" by Cedega so first of all, try Wine
[09:45] <ror> that's the FS type
[09:45] <jan> kane77: you are right, gxine can. VLC can not; at least not SMB. But what about all the other music oriented media player? Audacious, XMMS, Listen, Banshee, Rhythmbox, BMPx etc. They can not and this is "stupid" because gxine or totem are not the optimal player to listen to music.
[09:45] <ror> 83 is linux ext ;d
[09:45] <velko> ubd: tune2fs /dev/hdX | grep -i uuid
[09:45] <arfee> does wine work ok with games
[09:45] <arfee> ?
[09:46] <PovAddict> arfee: some
[09:46] <ror> a lot of games works alright, check out winehq.com
[09:46] <arfee> cool thanks
[09:46] <PovAddict> arfee: not even cedega runs ALL games correctly
[09:46] <PovAddict> hell, not even Windows runs all correctly :)
[09:46] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: yes, not all but either Cedega doesn't support all games
[09:46] <velko> ubd: sorry: tune2fs -l /dev/hdX | grep -i uid
[09:46] <kane77> jan, well tell that to programmers of those programs :) or implement it yourself...
[09:46] <arfee> oh and another question...sorry im a newbee...how come in here everone talks but other rooms i go to nobody talks
[09:46] <ror> cos we're friendly
[09:47] <velko> ubd: it should be a long string consisting of numbers and letters
[09:47] <ror> (and there's 1152 people in here)
[09:47] <ubd> velko: no outpu from that command?
[09:47] <academia13> hi
[09:47] <[selfsearcher] > PovAddict: Window$ runs only DirectX ... grr... but Quake Wars is great in Linux liar lol
[09:47] <ror> (which is a LOT, suprisingly it's managable)
[09:47] <velko> ubd: and without the grep?
[09:47] <arfee> so it has nothing to do with me or configuration?
[09:47] <PovAddict> arfee: there are literally a thousand people in here, only a small fraction are talking
[09:47] <kane77> arfee, ror, and we got nothing better to do ;)
[09:47] <jan> kane77: of course. but is it not possible to implement it once in GNOME and use it easily or by default in any other gnome application?
[09:47] <PovAddict> erUSUL: interesting, there IS an initrd.img-2.6.17-11-386 file on /boot
[09:47] <academia13> hi
[09:47] <ubd> Filesystem UUID:          5b055a86-a13b-4431-a320-ec750a45822f
[09:47] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: just search for Wine database :)
[09:47] <velko> ubd: right
[09:48] <arfee> lol maybe its true what they say...the ubuntu community is the friendliest
[09:48] <arfee> thanks selfsearcher
[09:48] <velko> ubd: now open the file /etc/fstab (as root)
[09:48] <ror> arfee, slackware community is very friendly too!
[09:48] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: please don't expose yourself... with "hand-made" codes... just a warning (lol)
[09:48] <ubd> velko: yes i did
[09:49] <ungamed> does anyone knoe if I can make my q4 run better if I set up aiglx, since I got a ati cart I'm running on xgl and it's rather slow, but I read that it is possible without the ati driver to get aiglx?
[09:49] <arfee> im not saying that im just happier with click and go software rather than code which is the slackware way lol
[09:49] <PovAddict> arfee: don't use linux then
[09:49] <PovAddict> lol
[09:49] <[selfsearcher] > ungamed: i know only "ati" works... too bad...
[09:49] <velko> ubd: copy one line which contains uuid and replace the uuid from it with yours
[09:49] <Duo`> hi im having trouble getting my laptop pcmcia wireless card to work :( its a realtek rtl8185 and it seems other people on the forum have had problems with it. im just wondering if anyone here has had any luck with getting one to work. the card is getting power and it seems the system recognizes it, i just cant get it to do anything :(
[09:49] <velko> ubd: replace the device name with the device name of your partition
[09:49] <arfee> lol i love linux but im no good with coding although i love learning and messing about
[09:49] <ror> slackware isn't about code it's about type and go rather than click and go ^_^
[09:50] <arfee> im anti-windows
[09:50] <ror> anti-windows is as bad as pro-windows D:
[09:50] <velko> ubd: replace the mounting point (directory name) with the point you wont to mount the partition
[09:50] <arfee> lol very true
[09:50] <ungamed> .
[09:50] <ubd> hdc1 doesnt exits in fstab. so any uuid
[09:50] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: AFAIK i repeat with 15$ you are ok and you can youse your father's card (and return him the 15 bucks)
[09:50] <arfee> but with linux it takes a bit longer for stuff to work bUT you appreciate it more afterwards
[09:51] <ror> my ubuntu worked a heck of a lot quicker than my windows does
[09:51] <ror> this even did wireless out the box
[09:51] <stefg> !wifi | Duo`
[09:51] <ubotu> Duo`: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:51] <velko> ubd: wait a second please
[09:51] <ubd> theres no hdc in fstab velko
[09:51] <arfee> well most of my stuff did apart from ATI card
[09:51] <stefg> Duo`: it might be missing firmware
[09:52] <arfee> but bit of messing and it worked
[09:52] <velko> ubd: add line like this: UUID=9de8e4ee-ecad-4eca-a2ec-65a91a6c3e08 /mnt/debian ext3 defaults 0 2
[09:52] <PovAddict> erUSUL: erm wtf
[09:52] <PovAddict> sudo: mkinitrd: command not found
[09:52] <velko> ubd: replacing the uuid with yours
[09:52] <ubd> debian?
[09:52] <surviver> !beginners
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beginners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: ATI is evil --> no 3D desktop... and Linux support is "only when we have a reasonable number of Linux users" ...
[09:52] <stefg> !info update-initramfs
[09:52] <ubotu> Package update-initramfs does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:52] <surviver> !faq
[09:52] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[09:52] <velko> ubd: the directory where you wont the partition to be mounted. /mnt/debian is just an example
[09:53] <velko> ubd: this directory should exist
[09:53] <Seveas> stefg, it's in initramfs-tools
[09:53] <ubd> velko: allright
[09:53] <arfee> i totally agree but what i love more than anything about linux is it total customization
[09:53] <stefg> Seveas: thanks, you were quicker than apt-cache search....
[09:53] <erUSUL> PovAddict: it was an example.. it is my currently instaled kernel you have tu change names accordingly with the especific kernel version
[09:53] <PovAddict> erUSUL: it's stuck again now
[09:53] <PovAddict> I got the correct command
[09:54] <PovAddict> a minute ago
[09:54] <[selfsearcher] > arfee: i just added gdesklets (i have an ATI card btw...) and yes, they worked flawlessy :) great!
[09:54] <PovAddict> still haven't returned to shell
[09:54] <PovAddict> and top again shows same
[09:54] <PovAddict> Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,100.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[09:54] <arfee> well  better get off but have a great day everyone!
[09:54] <[selfsearcher] > ciao arfee !
[09:54] <ubd> velko: mount command : arning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[09:55] <stefg> PovAddict: mkinitrd won't work, it's mkinitramfs
[09:55] <velko> ubd: could you post your fstab in pastebin please?
[09:55] <jarhed> wondering if someone can help me out with ltsp setup on ubuntu not edubuntu
[09:55] <Mike834> Is there like remote assitance built in ubuntu?
[09:55] <PovAddict> sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-386 2.6.17-11-386
[09:55] <erUSUL> PovAddict: which ubuntu version do you have instaled? edgy 386? i have not see a kernel update recently...
[09:55] <Duo`> stefg: i suppose i could try ndiswrapper and see if that works. It's weird because it shows the card in network manager and if i go to "system -> network tools" it'' show the card and say its transmitting some kb/s, but i cant get it to do anything else :(
[09:55] <PovAddict> that's what I'm using
[09:55] <PovAddict> erUSUL: yeah edgy
[09:55] <PovAddict> Mike834: VNC!
[09:55] <Mike834> Is that built in?
[09:56] <PovAddict> define built in...
[09:56] <velko> Mike834: yes
[09:56] <PovAddict> sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-386 2.6.17-11-386
[09:56] <PovAddict> oops
[09:56] <stefg> Duo`: yeah, sadly some cards are only half-working. so trying them with ndiswrapper might be agood idea
[09:56] <Duo`> ok thanks
[09:56] <Mike834> Can someone help me set up a few things by doing it for me then?
[09:56] <velko> Mike834: what do you do?
[09:56] <PovAddict> Mike834: protocol is completely cross-platform, I have used my Palm PDA to connect to my Windows computer with VNC :)
[09:56] <Mike834> W00t
[09:57] <Mike834> I want someone to step up racer for me
[09:57] <Mike834> I have no idea,
[09:57] <ubd> velko: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/10233
[09:57] <PovAddict> mkinitramfs still running
[09:57] <Mike834> and I need someone to fix gaim
[09:57] <PovAddict> no CPU usage, just "wait" time
[09:57] <piglit> how big must be the ramdisk when i try to install ubunto from a usbstick in the line append initrd=initrd.gz ramdisk_size=12000 root=/dev/ram rw ? i got the whole iso on the usb-stick
[09:57] <elfranger> hello
[09:57] <velko> ubd: you don't use feisty, right?
[09:58] <ubd> no sorry
[09:58] <elfranger> I need some help setting up postfix on my server...
[09:58] <jarhed> LTSP anyone?
[09:58] <Tommy2k4> my hdd has hda1 as windows, hda2 as /, and an extended containing swap and some freespace
[09:58] <Tommy2k4> how can i delete all of the extended partition and / from ubuntu livecd
[09:58] <velko> ubd: so my directions was misleading. instead of the uuid you have to use the device name: /dev/hdc
[09:58] <Tommy2k4> the rightclick menu in qtparted has all items greyed except properties
[09:58] <ubd> thats my bad :( sory
[09:59] <PovAddict> mkinitramfs still stuck
[09:59] <ubd> dev hdc as the oother ext3?
[09:59] <cactusbin> hello
[09:59] <aerials> join #ubuntu-meeting
[09:59] <academia15_> hola
[09:59] <velko> ubd: you have created /mnt/hdc1?
[09:59] <stefg> Tommy2k4: sudo swapoff -a first, then try again. You cant delete an extended partition if there's swap space in use
[09:59] <ubd> yes
[10:00] <cactusbin> im have a few problems with ubuntu since i've started, linux has never liked my hardware but I've had the best luck with ubuntu and it seems to have the best community
[10:00] <velko> ubd: and you are trying to mount /dev/hdc or /dev/hdc1 there?
[10:00] <cactusbin> to start off I can't achieve my resolution i need
[10:00] <cactusbin> my video card is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130061
[10:00] <stefg> !fixres | cactusbin
[10:00] <ubotu> cactusbin: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:00] <cactusbin> I need 1680x1050 resolution
[10:01] <velko> ubd: you there?
[10:01] <cactusbin> ok thank you
[10:01] <ubd> velko: none i think ^^ lol whats the exatct command to mount devhdc1 to mnt/hdc1
[10:01] <PovAddict> how many HOURS will this mkinitramfs take?
[10:01] <academia15_> jkkkk
[10:01] <b^j> has anyone used a preseed file to automate the install of ubuntu? i am trying to add universe/multiverse to my default install
[10:01] <maverick_hunter> im running ubuntu 5.10 server is there a way to install gnome from CD with it?
[10:02] <velko> ubd: in /etc/fstab you need: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 defaults 0 2
[10:02] <wousser> what is the quickest way to set the right resolution for an external monitor?
[10:02] <ubd> mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /mnt/hdc1 busy
[10:02] <ubd> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc1 is already mounted on /mnt/hdc1
[10:02] <velko> ubd: sudo umount /dev/hdc1
[10:03] <ubd> i did it alreday^^
[10:03] <Tommy2k4> ty stefg sorted it now
[10:03] <ubd> umount /dev/hdc1
[10:03] <stefg> maverick_hunter: ooohh... breezy is ooooold... how about upgrading to dapper (which has Long trm support) and installing gnome along that way?
[10:03] <ubd> ok done. do i need to add a line to fstab?
[10:04] <Tommy2k4> now i need to hope xp cd will fixmbr a win2k installation
[10:04] <maverick_hunter> stefg i would but i have no access to a cd burner or reliable internet for a while (shitty wireless at a coffee shop)
[10:04] <PirateHead> dbd: it's a good idea to edit fstab if you want the change to be permanent
[10:04] <go1> How do I use the python inerperiter
[10:04] <velko> ubd: yes. after you put this line in fstab the partition will be mounted automaticaly when you boot the computer
[10:04] <velko> go1: type python in a terminal
[10:04] <cactusbin> My second problem is with my wireless, I have wireless built into my motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131011 . Realtek released linux drivers for their productsd and I compiled them. In the network manager it can detect my wireless network and supposedly conenct to it, but when i run iwconfig wlan0 it only has the correct essid and it is on channel 12 (is really on channel 6) and has no mac address, 
[10:04] <cactusbin> *iwconfig
[10:04] <dooglus> go1: just type 'python' to get a python interpreter prompt
[10:05] <ubd> velko: i cant paste anything on mnt/hdc1 although its mounted.
[10:05] <enyc> ubd: maybe its mounted readonly
[10:05] <ubd> i did chown
[10:05] <enyc> ubd: maybe its NTFS (normally not really writable unless you use  ntfs-3g)
[10:05] <ubd> its ext3
[10:05] <velko> ubd: did you changed the permissions and the owner of this directory like i explained at the beginning?
[10:05] <PirateHead> go1: if you want to use it to interpret a file (somescript.py, for example), you would just run python somescript.py
[10:05] <ubd> yes i did
[10:06] <ubd> is there a way to check those?
[10:06] <go1> What do i do about the fact that my key board does not work on start up?
[10:06] <velko> ubd: ls -ld /mnt/hdc1
[10:06] <go1> It is a blue tooth key board
[10:06] <ubd> velko: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nis 17 17:25 /mnt/hdc1
[10:07] <ubd> its still root/root ^^
[10:07] <jarhed> anyone have experience installing LTSP?
[10:07] <velko> ubd: so you don't have changed the owner. it is still root
[10:07] <PovAddict> mkinitramfs has taken 15 minutes now, still STUCK!
[10:07] <PovAddict> what the hell
[10:07] <velko> ubd: how is named the user you currently run as?
[10:07] <tabias> how do I install the nvidia drivers? if I download the driver from nvidia.com I get an error the kernel is missing
[10:07] <stefg> maverick_hunter: did you get the last one, i got disconnected
[10:07] <PovAddict> what does "wa" mean on top output?
[10:08] <cactusbin> can anyone answer my question?
[10:08] <kane77> tabias, why are you installing from nvidia site?
[10:08] <dooglus> PovAddict: 'wait' - processes which are waiting for the disk or the network
[10:08] <stefg> !nvidia | tabias
[10:08] <ubotu> tabias: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:08] <go1> Can any one answere my question?
[10:08] <frandavid100> hello!
[10:08] <sorcerer22> crdlb: you there i posted the settings of my beryle manager .,, and when i still switch . desktops .. my windows move over and i dont have a free .. desktop :(
[10:09] <frandavid100> do you know any good glade tutorial?
[10:09] <go1> hi!
[10:09] <surviver> i've got a question can i add (gmail stuff) like ppl who talk to me and buddy list set automaticly to display onto an otherworkspace? so they dont pop up in the middle of my screen :p
[10:09] <dooglus> go1: I could answer it.  My answer would be "I don't know".  That's why I hadn't answered so far.  I expect a lot of other people would have the same answer for you, too.
[10:09] <PovAddict> dooglus: is it a bad thing that mkinitramfs has been using waiting for disk for 15 minutes? looks like it
[10:09] <ubd> velko can i pm you
[10:09] <velko> frandavid100: look at the developer section on www.gnome.org
[10:09] <dooglus> PovAddict: I guess so.  I've never had it take that long.
[10:09] <velko> ubd: yes
[10:09] <maverick_hunter> stefg i said i dont have internet (old machine) it has not ethernet port, no money for card and no way to get the new system on it
[10:09] <kane77> surviver, yes
[10:09] <frandavid100> thanks velko
[10:09] <PovAddict> dooglus: in fact I lost count already
[10:09] <dooglus> PovAddict: it can take a minute or so
[10:09] <bokey> frandavid100: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/programming/glade.shtml
[10:09] <stefg> maverick_hunter: first of all there's !shipit to get a new CD :-) second it depends on what kind of CD you have. if you have a 'Desktop'-CD you can simply pop the CD in and install the package 'ubuntu-desktop' with synaptic, errr aptitude, if there's no X
[10:09] <surviver> kane77, u know how?
[10:09] <kane77> surviver, use devilspie
[10:09] <chytraeus> how do i change grub from verbose to quiet splash?
[10:09] <go1> I expect so to
[10:10] <dooglus> PovAddict: ie. longer than you might think, but not 15 minutes
[10:10] <surviver> kane77, its a plugin or program?
[10:10] <maverick_hunter> whats the command ( i dont wanan use shipit, ill have internet in less that 3 weeks)
[10:10] <stefg> !shipit | maverick_hunter
[10:10] <ubotu> maverick_hunter: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[10:10] <dooglus> maverick_hunter: what command?
[10:11] <kane77> surviver, it's a program that does what youy want.. (eg I use it to open firefox on desktop2, thunderbird on desktop4, to have pinned borderless terminal on every desktop below all other windows...
[10:11] <maverick_hunter> stefg i dont wanna wait, ill wait til i get internet and upgrade using aptitude
[10:11] <surviver> kate77, thx thats some great stuff
[10:11] <stefg> maverick_hunter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <maverick_hunter> thank you
[10:11] <PovAddict> dooglus: definitely 20 mins by now. no CPU usage, just that wa thing
[10:11] <maverick_hunter> stefg will that install it from the CD?
[10:11] <kane77> surviver, np, here is pretty useful wiki http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie
[10:12] <Jeeves_Moss> can someone give me a hand installing a Samsung ML-2510?
[10:12] <stefg> maverick_hunter: yes, you have the right one, and if the CD-ROM is configured in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <alexIdoia> hey I have installed vlc for firefox, when I insert a .ogg into a html page, I have a (no video) instead of the sound extract, what am I missing ?
[10:12] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  Samsung printer?
[10:12] <maverick_hunter> stefg thanks
[10:13] <chytraeus>  how do i change grub from verbose to quiet splash?
[10:13] <PirateHead> Jeeves_Moss: Have you already looked in the forum archives, wiki, etc?
[10:13] <Jeeves_Moss> PirateHead:  yes, and nothing works for this printer,  hince why I'm asking here.
[10:13] <stefg> !gru | chytraeus
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gru - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <maverick_hunter> 
[10:13] <stefg> !grub | chytraeus
[10:13] <ubotu> chytraeus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:13] <PirateHead> Jeeves_Moss: I only ask because I have no clue. =D
[10:13] <alexIdoia> any ideas guys ?
[10:13] <Jeeves_Moss> PirateHead:  ok, np
[10:13] <kane77> chytraeus, edit /bood/grub/menu.lst find appropriate line (for kernel you want) and remove quiet or add verbose...
[10:14] <dooglus> PovAddict: I guess it's not going to do anything more.  20 minutes is long enough.
[10:14] <dooglus> PovAddict: try a 'fsck' to check your drives
[10:14] <quaal> how do you determine what /dev the cddrive is
[10:14] <quaal> i tried cdrecord -scanbus
[10:14] <quaal> but it doesnt list it
[10:14] <stefg> quaal: lspci ?
[10:14] <PovAddict> dooglus: can't ctrl-c it :|
[10:15] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  Samsung printers?
[10:15] <PovAddict> kill -9 time
[10:15] <array[] > org
[10:15] <dooglus> PovAddict: POV as in Persistence of Vision?
[10:15] <eifzon> does ubuntu work for intel core 2 duo e6600, asusp5b deluxe ??
[10:15] <chytraeus> kane77: i did that. i changed it to quiet splash but it's still verbose.
[10:15] <quaal> stefg, looks like that lists all the controllers
[10:15] <stefg> !hardware
[10:15] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:15] <quaal> i think i got it from stab though
[10:15] <dooglus> PovAddict: kill -9 probably won't help either if it's properly locked up
[10:15] <PovAddict> dooglus: the raytracer yeah; I wish I hadn't chosen my nickname in a hurry though
[10:16] <b^j> bah, kill -9 solves all
[10:16] <dooglus> PovAddict: heh, I know the feeling.  'dooglus' was the result of 0.5 seconds' thought about 2 years ago.
[10:16] <PovAddict> dooglus: it was killed without needing the -9
[10:16] <dooglus> PovAddict: now I'm kind of stuck with it :)
[10:16] <PovAddict> printed out Terminated
[10:16] <PovAddict> (I'm stuck with this nickname too)
[10:16] <PovAddict> so how do I use fsck?
[10:17] <surviver> kane77, i searched by the add/remove apps but couldnt find it, is it normal :p?
[10:17] <PovAddict> can I use fsck on a mounted FS?
[10:17] <dooglus> PovAddict: sudo fsdk /dev/hda<whatever>
[10:17] <dooglus> PovAddict: fs*c*k, not d.
[10:17] <nilleso> anyone using gaim to access IRC :ashamed:
[10:17] <kane77> surviver, it's in repositories, although not in add/remove... do "sudo aptitude install devilspie"
[10:18] <PovAddict> nilleso: they were talking about how much of a bad idea that was a while ago:)
[10:18] <surviver> kane77, great thx :)
[10:18] <ksnipaz2> anyone know of a program that can split a wmv file?
[10:18] <PovAddict> wmv LOL
[10:18] <nilleso> why?
[10:18] <PovAddict> * stefg wonders how much masochism it takes to use gaim... there's xchat, chatzilla, irssi, weechat for IRC, don't use a perverted IM  for a serious thing like IRC :-)
[10:18] <PovAddict> I dont know why
[10:18] <kane77> surviver, np
[10:18] <PovAddict> I didn't participate on the discussion :P
[10:19] <ror> POVaddct, yet on the liveCD what is there?
[10:19] <kadakas> what can i use to open and edit Adobe Photoshop's .psd files ?
[10:19] <ror> only IRC thing on the liveCD I could see is gaim D:
[10:19] <ksnipaz2> lol dont laugh its from a stream
[10:19] <ror> (installed by default I mena)
[10:19] <nilleso> true enough, I need to rethink my priorities
[10:19] <PovAddict> dooglus: can I use fsck on a mounted FS?
[10:19] <kane77> kadakas, photoshop :D or gimp, but it doesnt work with layer styles etc...
[10:19] <kadakas> photoshop works in linux ?
[10:20] <nilleso> PovAddict.. at least I've got it working with my corp FW now
[10:20] <juckum> yo guys
[10:20] <juckum> I need help!
[10:20] <Rprp> Since yesterday my Microphone doesnt work anymore :(, When i turn 'Analoge Mix' on in alsa-mixer i can hear myself, But still nobody can here me in Teamspeak, Someone ideas?
[10:20] <PovAddict> it gave this scary message
[10:20] <PovAddict> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[10:20] <PovAddict> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[10:21] <kane77> kadakas, yes, throught wine (I've only heard about CS2, I was running PS7 well myself)
[10:21] <juckum> I can't log in to my super user account, when i try to log in it only says "computer administrator cannot log in from here"
[10:21] <stefg> !root
[10:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:21] <ajehuk> PovAddict - yeah - dont fsck a mounted file system, that would be bad, unmount them first
[10:21] <PovAddict> ajehuk: 'fsck' itself is on that filesystem -_-'
[10:21] <stefg> juckum: login with your normal user credentials, then get a root shell with sudo -s, if you need it
[10:22] <ajehuk> PovAddict - use a boot disk
[10:22] <PovAddict> ajehuk: the computer in question is some thousand KMs away from me
[10:22] <Rsyncin> Im wonder what this regular expression means    /[$%#>]  \z/n  anyone give me a hand.  Read some reg exp pages but this still looks cryptic to me
[10:22] <juckum> what do i actually write into terminal, stefg?
[10:23] <MrMakeveli> any of you guys on xchat?
[10:23] <Crazytom> meee
[10:23] <Death_Sargent> !channels
[10:23] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:23] <Pelo> MrMakeveli,  most of us
[10:23] <stefg> juckum:  sudo -s  , afetr you logged in as juckum, or wahtever your username is
[10:23] <juckum> i think i found out
[10:23] <juckum> !
[10:23] <MrMakeveli> cool, any reasons over gaim?
[10:23] <stefg> aaarrrgghhh
[10:23] <ror> gaim's IRC is horrible!!
[10:23] <eifzon> where can i get the ubuntu 7.04 version
[10:24] <stefg> !feisty
[10:24] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:24] <Crazytom> ror, je suis d'accord
[10:24] <ajehuk> PovAddict - lol- cant remember if shutdown -F forces an fsck on reboot on all file system - I think it does tho...
[10:24] <MrMakeveli> ror, any reason why?
[10:24] <ror> (mind you, I'm not a huge fan of xchat, I've had it disappear into the system tray and never come out again before)
[10:24] <Crazytom> MrMakeveli, try both and you will no longer need an explanation
[10:24] <Death_Sargent> hey does anyone know how I can prevent my laptop from over heating
[10:24] <ror> try using multiple channels over multiple networks on gaim
[10:24] <MrMakeveli> uhh i used the gaim irc for awhile, and this is my first time on xchat
[10:25] <PovAddict> ajehuk: and I have an "unreliable" initrd image because of the possible disk problem, I fear it won't boot back again :x
[10:25] <ajehuk> PovAddict - although if its a remote machine make sure you use -r (-R) as well...
[10:25] <ajehuk> PovAddict - ah, then your pretty much stuffed
[10:25] <PovAddict> great
[10:25] <ror> xchat has syntax highlighting, a nice layout, it shows you where you were last at before you switched focus, has nick completion (tab); is scriptable with python
[10:25] <ror> um, loads of reasons
[10:25] <juckum> it only probes for an unused subnet a thousand times
[10:25] <MrMakeveli> ror,  sounds nice
[10:26] <MrMakeveli> the multiple networks seems like it'd do me good
[10:26] <Peaker> say, are there plans to rewrite the init system or was it already done?
[10:26] <sylpheedClaws> it's been done
[10:26] <sylpheedClaws> upstart...
[10:26] <sylpheedClaws> !upstart
[10:26] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:26] <Peaker> what was changed? How come I still got my /etc/rc*.d/ stuff?
[10:26] <Death_Sargent> checkinstall won't work
[10:26] <Death_Sargent> keeps on saying there is no make rule set
[10:26] <sylpheedClaws> it's just a replacement of the binary
[10:26] <Peaker> sylpheedClaws: ah
[10:27] <p_masho> How do I know if "upstart" is being used ??
[10:27] <Peaker> sylpheedClaws: the /etc/rc*/ stuff is pretty rotten
[10:27] <sylpheedClaws> it's automatic
[10:27] <Peaker> It could be cool if that was replaced
[10:27] <cactusbin>  ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe WiFi On Linux
[10:27] <cactusbin> I've been using linux for a while on my old machines, and I love it. But when I got my new computer (custom) Linux didn't seem to love my new hardware. Right now I have wireless built into my motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131011 . Realtek released linux drivers for their products and I compiled them. In the network manager it can detect my wireless network and supposed
[10:27] <cactusbin> ly conenct to it, but when i run 'iwconfig wlan0' it only has the correct essid and it is on channel 12 (is really on channel 6) and has no mac address, I manually connect to the mac address using iwconfig it still doesn't work!
[10:27] <sylpheedClaws> but not in Xubuntu
[10:27] <Death_Sargent> anyone know how to make ubuntu compile from source
[10:27] <Death_Sargent> check install won't work
[10:27] <sylpheedClaws> you can install it in Xubuntu, but it's not in by default
[10:27] <Peaker> Death_Sargent: you can use apt-get -b source   on stuff, I believe, but its on a per-package basis
[10:27] <ajehuk> PovAddict - one solution - if convoluted, would be to install a bare bones linux install onto one of the other drives or partitions (if they exist) that way you have an alternate OS to boot into - but that does rely on you having a) multiple disks / partitions b) remote KVM access or similar (or a person at the other end...) c) quite a bit of time as you will have to do the install manually from within your current booted OS..
[10:27] <sylpheedClaws> just use sudo apt-get install upstart
[10:28] <juckum> stefg: it only starts "probing an unused network" and wants to overwrite som vmware files...
[10:28] <sylpheedClaws> and then, there's teardown...
[10:28] <sylpheedClaws> !teardown
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teardown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <foka> how do i start samba?
[10:28] <sylpheedClaws> it's somewhere on the wiki
[10:28] <p_masho> foka: sudo /etc/init.d/samba
[10:28] <velko> foka: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[10:28] <sylpheedClaws> foka: smbd -D
[10:28] <juckum> !vmnet
[10:28] <juckum> !vmware
[10:29] <p_masho> anyone ?
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:29] <sylpheedClaws> p_masho: what was the q?
[10:29] <stefg> juckum: so what? a messed up vmware install is preventing your box from booting? try sudo /etc/init.d/vmware stop
[10:29] <sylpheedClaws> p_masho: upstart? it runs by default on Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[10:29] <p_masho> how do I know if "upstart" is being used ?
[10:29] <Death_Sargent> not working
[10:29] <sylpheedClaws> and on others, you can install it with synaptic
[10:29] <juckum> "command not found" stefg
[10:30] <p_masho> sylpheedClaws: with edgy eft ?
[10:30] <velko> p_masho: verify if the package "upstart" is installed?
[10:30] <sylpheedClaws> yep
[10:30] <Death_Sargent> all I get is
[10:30] <sylpheedClaws> edgy and later
[10:30] <stefg> juckum: so what is your problem?
[10:30] <Death_Sargent> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[10:30] <Death_Sargent> please help
[10:30] <sylpheedClaws> Death_Sargent: install the Qt development tools
[10:30] <p_masho> velko: it is... just expected the boot process to be a bit faster... ok ta..
[10:30] <Death_Sargent> how
[10:30] <foka> has samba got any graphic interface?
[10:31] <velko> foka: swat
[10:31] <sylpheedClaws> it's in Synaptic, search for "qmake"
[10:31] <juckum> i'm trying to write "dpkg --configure a"
[10:31] <velko> foka: never tried it though
[10:31] <juckum> to be able to install things from automatix, and also install updates
[10:31] <Moosejaw> will someone click on one of the on demand shows on this site, and let me know if there is anyway i can get it to work in ubuntu?  I tried agent switcher but got a flash error.
[10:31] <juckum> but vmware is preventing it
[10:31] <Moosejaw> http://www.tsn.ca/shows/otr/
[10:31] <foka> i ll try it
[10:32] <juckum> stefg:i'm trying to write "dpkg --configure a" to be able to install things from automatix, and also install updates but vmware is preventing it
[10:32] <Moosejaw> foka: thanks
[10:32] <sylpheedClaws> this one's for XFCE 4.4 users:
[10:32] <sylpheedClaws> how can I change my panel BG?
[10:32] <foka> thank u
[10:32] <stefg> juckum: hmm.... automatix
[10:32] <stefg> !automatix
[10:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:32] <sylpheedClaws> !worksforme
[10:32] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:32] <Crazytom> !wireless
[10:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <aoupi_> sylpheedClaws: problably higher chance of getting an answer in #xubuntu
[10:33] <mattl> has anyone any experience in upgrading etch to feisty?
[10:33] <sylpheedClaws> k
[10:33] <juckum> stefg: so i should remove it?
[10:33] <stefg> juckum: too late
[10:33] <EADG> Moosejaw: OTR On Demand... OS not supported :(
[10:33] <juckum> :(
[10:33] <jfm3> I'm testing Feisty on my laptop and I'm not sure if I've found a bug or if I'm operating the UI stuipidly:  I get on the wireless network here, everything works, then I plug in the wired network, wireless access then goes away, which is fine, but eth1 (the wireless ix) starts showing up in the routing table later, and in general my network connectivity seems to pause from time to time.
[10:33] <crimsun> mattl: that's more of a crossgrade than a dist-upgrade
[10:34] <stefg> juckum: backup, reformat, reinstall
[10:34] <velko> mattl: etch is debian; feisty - ubuntu
[10:34] <mattl> velko: sure.
[10:34] <Moosejaw> eadg is there no way to trick it?
[10:34] <mattl> crimsun: yeah.. :)
[10:34] <Moosejaw> so lame
[10:34] <Death_Sargent> what parts of qt do I need to compile from source
[10:34] <juckum> fuck!!!
[10:34] <velko> mattl: why would you want to do this? just curious - you may not answer.
[10:34] <Flannel> !language
[10:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:34] <foka> i intalled swat but it doesn t start:s
[10:34] <steven_> I was on here earlier today because I my display was behaving very slowly, with a visible refresh when scrolling, for example. Some people told me that X was improperly configured, and told me to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. That command ran successfully, but it couldn't find my display drivers. I updated today to edgy from dapper, in anticipation of switching to feisty this weekend. Any ideas what I can do to restore my syste
[10:34] <steven_> m's functionality?
[10:34] <EADG> Moosejaw: I think there is a setting in Firefox to return IE as browser, but not certain.
[10:35] <juckum> with what program do i burn a livecd?
[10:35] <Flannel> !burning | juckum
[10:35] <ubotu> juckum: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:35] <mattl> velko: i want to try GNOME 2.18 and 2.6.20 kernel
[10:35] <dooglus> POVaddct: you can, but don't let it fix anything
[10:36] <velko> mattl: i see. i'm extremly happy with etch so i was just wondering. it may work but never tried to switch from debian proper to ubuntu
[10:36] <dooglus> POVaddct: it's safe to run fsck on a mounted system just so long as you don't let it write to the filesystem
[10:37] <kbrosnan> Moosejaw: install the user agent switcher extension
[10:37] <mattl> velko: i've got some very new hardware, and i'm not sure its all working right under this kernel.
[10:37] <Death_Sargent> anyone know what parts of qt I need to install from sources
[10:37] <steven_> Nobody has any ideas, then, about how to correct X so my display will run properly?
[10:37] <Moosejaw> kbronson i did
[10:37] <Moosejaw> but still a no go
[10:37] <Moosejaw> different error...about flash
[10:37] <Moosejaw> when i switch to ie
[10:37] <Moosejaw> says i need to upgrade
[10:37] <velko> mattl: maybe it will be better to download the live cd? you can install from it if you are content
[10:38] <kbrosnan> Moosejaw: do you have flash installed and configured?
[10:38] <juckum> Will i update to 7.04 automatically in two days, like a service-pack thingy?
[10:38] <Moosejaw> i believe so
[10:38] <Stormx2> Guys my fonts have screwed up.
[10:38] <Stormx2> Check it out:
[10:38] <Stormx2> http://stormx.no-ip.org/www/Screenshot-Halo%202%20Softmodding%20Modding%20Tutorial!%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png
[10:38] <Stormx2> Any suggestions?
[10:39] <chytraeus> can someone paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst as i have tried to change it from verbose to quiet splash without success?
[10:39] <Moosejaw> if u have it can u try it out?
[10:39] <POVaddct> i hate network manager
[10:39] <o2rm1w> what time the iso will be avaiable on thrusday?
[10:39] <Moosejaw> and let me know if its working for u?
[10:39] <kbrosnan> Moosejaw: type about:plugins in the address bar is flash listed?
[10:39] <kbrosnan> Moosejaw: I am not on linux currently
[10:40] <POVaddct> network manager takes control of everything, makes ifup and ifdown unusable   *puke*
[10:40] <steven_> It seems strange to me that Ubuntu would recognize my graphics drivers in the previous version, then mess up on them in the upgrade.
[10:40] <NDRES> #ubuntu-es
[10:40] <Moosejaw> sayas yes to this:     File name: libflashplayer.so
[10:40] <Moosejaw>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78
[10:40] <Moosejaw> but does that indicate the plugin?
[10:41] <ash211> !german
[10:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:41] <piglit> how big must be the ramdisk when i try to install ubunto from a usbstick in the line append initrd=initrd.gz ramdisk_size=12000 root=/dev/ram rw ? i got the whole iso on the usb-stick
[10:41] <stefg> steven_: are you sure you have all the /meta/ - packages installed? a kernel update only works, if all teh related -restricted packages are updated as well
[10:42] <steven_> No, I have no idea. I've never had problems before, and don't know where to even go for help. I can try that. Can I reach them through systemic?
[10:42] <dani> hola a todos
[10:42] <chytraeus>  can someone paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst as i have tried to change it from verbose to quiet splash without success?
[10:43] <stefg> steven_: so what graphic card do you have, and which version of ubuntu do you run?
[10:43] <xiven> Hello.
[10:43] <steven_> stefg: I do not know what graphic card I have, and I'm currently running edgy. I upgraded today from dapper. I think part of the problem may come from a power outage I had while the updater was running. I ran the updater, went to work, came back for lunch and the comp was dead.
[10:44] <kbrosnan> Moosejaw: yes that is correct, just makre sure there are not any other flash entries such as gpl flash
[10:44] <xiven> I am having trouble with mounting my second drive that has a Fedora install...when i try it says that the partition is already mounted, or the dir is busy.
[10:44] <steven_> stefg: how can I find out what graphics card I am running?
[10:44] <kbrosnan> Stormx2: have you tried ctrl + shift + r, which will force firefox to refetch the page ingoring caches
[10:44] <czajkoz> hi
[10:45] <steven_> stefg: looks like GeForce 6100
[10:45] <stefg> steven_: so you expect that a half updated system, which was switched off during essential maintenace just works.... errrmmmm...
[10:45] <czajkoz> can You tell me where i can get help
[10:45] <Stormx2> kbrosnan: No luck :(
[10:45] <velko> steven_: try "lspci -v" and look for the video card
[10:45] <czajkoz> for kubuntu
[10:45] <steven_> stefg: no, I don't. I continued all the downloads via update manager
[10:45] <sorcerer> guys ... iam panicing i mean i was .. rebooting my computer and bam i got soo many wrrors i dunno but .. i kep pressing enter .. and umm .. it loaded to .. ubuntu ..
[10:45] <foxiness> is there a package to install for sound event on xchat ?
[10:45] <sorcerer> how do i get that mesage back and see what happened ?
[10:46] <sorcerer> or whats wrong with my machine mind you iam new to ubuntu ] 
[10:46] <stefg> steven_: so first do ' sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install'  first, to get a defined stat
[10:46] <stefg> state
[10:46] <Ice_Wewe> I lost the userspace govenor on my kernel after I upgraded from a Single Core Athlon to a Dual Core Athlon, how do I restore it?
[10:47] <czajkoz> i have lost my permissions tu my folder home and i cant log in as a rott its horrible
[10:47] <quaal> is there a way to test burn with growisofs ?
[10:47] <cHiefz> bubuntu selam
[10:47] <steven_> stefg: i ran those, and everything was updated
[10:47] <cHiefz> :)
[10:47] <eternal_p_> good afternoon all...I have a quick question..I have ubuntu running vmware server with a windows XP guest, sound and USB turned on....I can get my spekaers to work fine in XP, but when I try and use my microphone, I get nothing....any thoughts ?
[10:47] <cHiefz> hi,
[10:47] <velko> czajkoz: boot in single user mode. it whould drop you on a root shell
[10:48] <steven_> velko: thanks! I didn't know that command existed
[10:48] <Ice_Wewe> anyone? I'm using the powernow daemon
[10:48] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: oh boy
[10:48] <stefg> steven_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx enable (note the backticks)
[10:49] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: changing of processor ..... might require kernel change
[10:49] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: powernow complains about stuff
[10:49] <velko> Ice_Wewe: i don't know what userspace governor is but did you kept your old kernel? you may try to boot to it. or reinstall it?
[10:49] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: it would
[10:49] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: nope, thanks to the infinite wisdom of the Ubuntu devs, all Edgy kernels are SMP
[10:49] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: nice
[10:49] <ash211> !fr
[10:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:49] <m22> POVaddct: hey...it's kerik here
[10:49] <Ice_Wewe> velko: I've already "Remove completely" and re-installed it
[10:50] <m22> POVaddct: just from my windows comp...
[10:50] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: have you tried reinstalling your 'userspace governor'?
[10:50] <velko> Ice_Wewe: the old (working) kernel you mean?
[10:50] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: dang
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> powernowd: err=2
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> powernowd: Found 2 scalable units:  -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
[10:50] <POVaddct> m22: hi, sorry. didn't expect this f$$%$&% NetworkManager to kill dhclient...
[10:50] <blippe> how do i turn off networkmanager
[10:50] <ferronica> Is Fiesty Fawn is Out??
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> velko: I'm running 2.6.17.1
[10:50] <blippe> not the applet, the service
[10:50] <m22> :) no me neither...
[10:50] <m22>  :)
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> ferronica: check back on the 19th
[10:50] <blippe> ferronica: not the finished
[10:50] <m22> I'm logging in as we speak
[10:50] <neozen> POVaddct: it shouldn't
[10:50] <xiven> Did anyone catch my problem?
[10:50] <eugman> I tried upgrading early and got thie :Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)   What's my problem? Also I was in ubuntu+1 and got no answer to this question.
[10:50] <chytraeus> how to change grub from verbose to quiet splash?
[10:50] <POVaddct> neozen: it did
[10:50] <foxiness> what the diff butween unrar and unrar-free ?
[10:50] <neozen> xiven: no.. didn't get that mon
[10:50] <Ice_Wewe> velko: yeah
[10:51] <neozen> xiven: just got here
[10:51] <ferronica> but on ship it showing me to order
[10:51] <neozen> xiven: perhaps a fresh look might help
[10:51] <blippe> where do i find dbus settings?
[10:51] <neozen> foxiness: just get unrar
[10:51] <neozen> foxiness: it worrks
[10:51] <stefg> eugman: can you imagine that a distro which isn't even released won't get securiy updates :-)
[10:51] <POVaddct> m22: do NOT use network manager, try  sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[10:51] <neozen> foxiness: unrar-free is older code that doesn't work w/ some rars
[10:51] <xiven> I have ubuntu/fedora dual boot using two drives. And im trying to mount deforas drive...but when i try it says drive mounted, or dir busy... but i dont have it mounted, and the dir isnt busy.
[10:51] <ferronica> blippe: In shipit it showing Fiesty is out
[10:52] <m22> so I should kill the network manager again?
[10:52] <Ice_Wewe> velko: nope, even when I completely re-install powernowd, it still complains about the CPUs
[10:52] <neozen> xiven: ok.... check the location where you are trying to mount it
[10:52] <eugman> stefg, haha yes. So should everything work once 19th ahs passed?
[10:52] <m22> (I rebooted...)
[10:52] <neozen> xiven: does it exist?
[10:52] <POVaddct> m22: yes, kill it please
[10:52] <stefg> eugman: yes
[10:52] <foxiness> neozen, thanks a lot :) then i go with unrar
[10:52] <velko> Ice_Wewe: it's very strange. sorry but i have no ideas
[10:52] <neozen> xiven: are you using the right filesystem type
[10:52] <POVaddct> m22: killall NetworkManager
[10:52] <Ice_Wewe> velko: ok
[10:52] <m22> POVaddct: could we povhelps again?
[10:52] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: powernow claims it supports SMP
[10:52] <POVaddct> m22: alright
[10:52] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: it does
[10:52] <MrMakeveli> anyone know how to refresh my sound? its like stuck on a 1/2 sec repeat of some random noise
[10:53] <blippe> POVaddct: do u know how to turn off networkmanager completely?
[10:53] <boyle> Escriba el texto aqu....
[10:53] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: but consider.... you've just changed your cpu from a single to a duo
[10:53] <sylpheedClaws> boyle: #ubuntu-es
[10:53] <POVaddct> blippe: i wish i knew..
[10:53] <steven_> stefg: the apt-get install works, but the command 'nvidia-glx enable' doesn't
[10:53] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: that _can_ do some strange things
[10:53] <m22> POVaddct: is the channel open?
[10:53] <POVaddct> m22: yes
[10:53] <blippe> POVaddct: i got a diskless system which loses its root filesystem  when it starts
[10:53] <POVaddct> m22: still exists
[10:53] <sylpheedClaws> this one's about wireless
[10:53] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: does power now support your specific chip?
[10:53] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: yeah, but shouldn't reinstalling the software that controlls the govenor solve that?
[10:53] <sylpheedClaws> I have a Belkin F5D7010, with an Atheros 5211 chipset
[10:54] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: I would think so
[10:54] <POVaddct> blippe: all i can say is i HATE network manager
[10:54] <stefg> steven_: it tells you about 'wrong checksum' or something?
[10:54] <sylpheedClaws> it works under kernel 2.6.15, but not 2.6.17, advice?
[10:54] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: it claims to support all AMD chips, including SMP ones, and mine is not particularly new
[10:54] <steven_> nah, i get 'command not found'
[10:54] <steven_> that's running as root
[10:54] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: unless something that it depends on is still giving it bad information
[10:54] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: what does powernowd get its info from
[10:54] <m22> POVaddct: can you link it again like last time?
[10:54] <sylpheedClaws> I might have found a workaround on the SUSE wiki, btw, but I'd rater get advice from here
[10:54] <m22> I can't seem to find it...
[10:54] <steven_> stefg: nah, I get 'command not found'
[10:54] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: it's trying to find /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
[10:54] <POVaddct> m22: just join #povhelps
[10:55] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: hmm
[10:55] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: have you tried googling for that file?
[10:55] <stefg> steven_: doesn't matter... just check in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in section drivers. it has to say 'nvidia' there, not nv
[10:55] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: might find other people w/ the same problem
[10:55] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: no, but it doesn't even exist anymore
[10:56] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[10:56] <Ice_Wewe> sup
[10:57] <steven_> stefg: in xorg.conf, under the device for my video card, it's 'Generic Video Card' with 'vesa' as teh driver
[10:58] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: yeah.......... strange
[10:58] <stefg> steven_: ahhh..  ok, so you have to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ... choose nvidia s the driver, not nv
[10:58] <bokey> wtf
[10:58] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: my kernel isn't loading a module it needs, now that I've loaded that module, I still don't have a userspace governor
[10:58] <Shafto> steven_: Or just run sudo nvidia-config , if you already havent
[10:58] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: I wouldn't honestly know where to start mon
[10:58] <Galga> hi
[10:59] <Shafto> steven_: Or just run sudo nvidia-xconfig , if you already havent***
[10:59] <xiven> I think I missed any answer anyone gave me
[10:59] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: I've got a celeron M here.... no on-chip power management whatsoever
[10:59] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: I've never looked into it... because my hw doesn't support it
[10:59] <Galga> the automatic update/upgrade software, which reports the updates are available stucks everytime i try to use it. ( the one which gives info about the available updates )
[10:59] <neozen> Ice_Wewe: when you reinstalled powernow... did you PURGE or just REMOVE?
[11:00] <Crazytom> what the command to search through a text file and show duplicate entries?
[11:00] <xiven> Hey
[11:00] <Crazytom> or delete them
[11:00] <Galga> right now its stuck again, and i dono how to kill that process. any help will be highly appreciateable
[11:00] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Which IM client supports voice? Gaim doesn't, right? thanks
[11:00] <xiven> oops
[11:00] <Ice_Wewe> neozen: "Mark for Complete Removal" (removes conf files as well)
[11:00] <nilleso> Crazy: sort filename|uniq -c
[11:00] <Crazytom> Galga, ps -e
[11:00] <steven_> stefg: once i run sudo nvidia-config, how soon should it take effect? Do I need to restart?
[11:00] <Galga> Crazytom, thanks
[11:00] <Crazytom> Galga, then kill -9 pid
[11:01] <Crazytom> Galga, pid is the number of the process
[11:01] <neozen> xiven: ok.... check the location where you are trying to mount it, does it exist? are you using the right file type?
[11:01] <stefg> steven_:'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <Shafto> steven_: Run sudo nvidia-xconfig , sorry missed an x, then restart X using ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:01] <neozen> xiven: *file-system type
[11:01] <Shafto> steven_: If that doesnt work then do the reconfigur
[11:01] <velko> Crazytom: if you mean duplicate lines try something like this: sort myfile | uniq > outfile (typing out of my head, so you may need to tweak it a bit)
[11:01] <xiven> the location exists
[11:02] <xiven> How can I check the filesystem type the partition is using?
[11:02] <stefg> xiven: sudo fdisk -l
[11:02] <xiven> Ohh wait
[11:02] <xiven> It is Linux LVM
[11:02] <neozen> xiven: you should know what type your fedora partition is from when you set it up
[11:02] <steven_> stefg: thanks! that did it!
[11:02] <steven_> stefg: have a nice day!
[11:02] <cvk77> !info deborphan
[11:02] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (edgy), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[11:02] <neozen> xiven: hmmmm ... never messed w/ that
[11:02] <stefg> steven_: np :-)
[11:02] <blippe> POVaddct: i just removed the networkmanager executable
[11:02] <cvk77> !info deborphan > heller_barde
[11:03] <neozen> xiven: I always left LVM alone
[11:03] <neozen> xiven: I don't think I can be of much help on that topic
[11:03] <Galga> Crazytom, great it worked. besides by using this specific method, does it effect anything else. I mean to ask, is it the appropriate way, when the cross sign, or right click close doesn't works ?
[11:03] <ferronica> what this mean --> 3 Ubuntu CDs (3 PC Edition)
[11:03] <neozen> xiven: sorry mon
[11:03] <stefg> !lvm
[11:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:03] <POVaddct> blippe: well then one could simple deinstall it
[11:03] <ferronica> Can any one explain me. :(
[11:03] <RockClimber> hello, I'm considering migrating some of my machines from fedora - the reason being longer lifetime - particularly getting major version updates to apps (OO.org, firefox, etc) without having to wait 6 months and upgrade the whole OS. Does ubuntu do update like this - ie does OO.org get bumped a version every release?
[11:03] <Crazytom> Galga, that's the only way i know
[11:03] <neozen> xiven: there you go.... thanks stefg
[11:03] <blippe> and loose ubuntu-desktop during that installation of the same? i think not
[11:04] <Galga> Crazytom, thanks alot
[11:04] <Crazytom> np
[11:04] <stefg> !schedule | RockClimber
[11:04] <ubotu> RockClimber: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:04] <Shafto> RockClimber: I think releases are done every 6 months, unless there are security/major bug problems
[11:04] <PriceChild> RockClimber, each release has the latest software... but I'm not sure what you are asking. Upgrades from Dapper to Edgy etc. are supported... but you say you don't want upgrades like that?
[11:04] <frandavid100> did someone get elisa to work?
[11:04] <ferronica> what this mean --> 3 Ubuntu CDs (3 PC Edition)
[11:04] <ferronica> Can any one explain me. :(
[11:04] <xiven> Hmm
[11:05] <xiven> Problem is the partition is using LVM, so it doesnt go by EXT at all...
[11:05] <neozen> ferronica: you mean the 3 different ubuntu-based distros?
[11:05] <velko> ferronica: your question does not make sense without context. where did you see this?
[11:05] <blippe> ferronica: where did you find it?
[11:05] <xiven> the partition of htat drive i CAN mount, has the grub stuff...but no boot
[11:05] <xiven> i mean, grub, but no home dir or anything
[11:05] <ferronica> velko: on shipit
[11:05] <neozen> ferronica: don't tell me you're buying ubuntu off some site
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: ::grins::
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: oh.. ok
[11:06] <xiven> Wait a second
[11:06] <SonicChao> !firefox
[11:06] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:06] <ferronica> neozone: i am ordering Fiesty fawn
[11:06] <neozen> ferronica: they probably ship all 3 distros
[11:06] <velko> ferronica: as long as i remember on shipit you can order 3, 5, 10 or more cds for the supported processors
[11:06] <xiven> I had both drives mounted using the Live boot, before i had installed Ubuntu onto the first drive (reinstall)....and when i rebooted, it said "FAILED" next to unmounting local filesystems.
[11:06] <Crazytom> RockClimber, too bad you live in the uk i need a belay partner
[11:06] <nilleso> good for you ferronica
[11:07] <drewzf> god
[11:07] <xiven> Could that be the problem
[11:07] <drewzf> What's the DNS server/setup util of choice for retards?
[11:07] <drewzf> I can't get my bind9 setup working
[11:07] <ferronica> neozen: all distros mean ubuntu , Kubuntu, Eubuntu
[11:07] <ferronica> neozen: You mean this
[11:07] <RockClimber> I realise you have a similar release cycle to fedora but what I want is an OS where if I install Ubuntu X with a support life of 18 months will it receive updates to major packages like openoffice every 3 months (their release cycle). At the moment for instance I have fedora 6 on a machine with OO.org 2.0.4 this didn't get the OO.org 2.1 update nor will it get 2.2 (which fedora 7 has) and in fact for the rest of fedora 6 life won't get anything other
[11:07] <RockClimber> than security related boosts. Does ubuntu work similarly - ie only security problems trigger a major version bump in packages?
[11:07] <neozen> ferronica: that could be
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: that could be what they mean
[11:08] <ferronica> neozen: have you ordered already
[11:08] <rukuartic> Hi folks... does anyone have any ideas for recovering a hardware raid 0 array?
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: no
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: You might want to ask in the packages channel...
[11:08] <ferronica> neozen: Why
[11:08] <SonicChao> My tablet is not working correctly with Linux D:
[11:08] <RockClimber> rukuartic, what's that ubuntu-packages??
[11:08] <stefg> RockClimber: you are asking for backports. These do exist, but aren't offically supported
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: Or whatever channel its supposed to be >> I'm not sure what it is...
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: you can't order xubuntu cds
[11:08] <rukuartic> RockClimber: Gimme a moment.
[11:08] <jano_> how do I get the grub splash to be ubuntu ? (i just upgraded from xubuntu)
[11:08] <neozen> ferronica: through shipit
[11:09] <ferronica> neozen: why
[11:09] <stefg> !backports
[11:09] <bokey> I asked this for someone here earlier but to no avail. man pages were showing quiet unproperly so I uninstalled and reinstalled groff-base package and it solves lot of garbage in the man page but still not all. may help someone.
[11:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[11:09] <neozen> ferronica: says here: http://xubuntu.org/get they've got 'funding issues'
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: ok
[11:10] <xiven> Would the Live Boot not unmounting properly on reboot, cause me not to be able to mount?
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: they will send me 3 editiond
[11:10] <sud0n1m> Im running Ubuntu on a VPS only using SSH. Do I need getty?
[11:10] <dooglus> velko: sort | uniq can be replaced more efficiently with 'sort -u'
[11:10] <ferronica> neozen: all distros ubuntu , Kubuntu, Eubuntu
[11:10] <velko> dooglus: thank you
[11:11] <neozen> neozen: ahhh edubuntu
[11:11] <Shafto> basvg: Broke for me XD
[11:11] <blippe> ferronica: doesn't the dvd contain all of them?
[11:11] <neozen> ferronica: I always forget about that one
[11:11] <basvg> Shafto: it's been downloading packages so far... almost ready to install 'm so we'll see
[11:11] <neozen> ferronica: great for kids
[11:11] <jano_> how do I get the grub splash to be ubuntu the splash is right at the end but at the bootup I still have the xfce one? (i just upgraded from xubuntu)
[11:11] <rukuartic> RockClimber: I can't quite seem to find it, look around in #ubuntu-dev
[11:11] <ferronica> neozen: which one K-ubuntu or E-ubuntu
[11:11] <RockClimber> rukuartic, it's okay, stefg answered my question
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: edubuntu
[11:12] <ferronica> neozen: Ubuntu is all in one i think
[11:12] <Flannel> RockClimber: Major version bumps don't happen, period.  Bugfixes and security updates are backported
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: its designed for educational uses
[11:12] <SonicChao> When I look at grub
[11:12] <rukuartic> RockClimber: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html might be of use
[11:12] <Flannel> RockClimber: some newer (major) stuff is backported, in the backports repository (like flash9, etc)
[11:12] <neozen> ferronica: has alot of kid-oriented progs
[11:12] <SonicChao> I have 2 'Ubuntu' lines
[11:12] <SonicChao> (and their 'recovery' lines)
[11:12] <stefg> jano_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork && sudo dpgk-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[11:13] <SonicChao> They are both EXACTLY the same.
[11:13] <ferronica> neozen: if i order i will get all three editions
[11:13] <velko> SonicChao: you have two kernel versions installed
[11:13] <SonicChao> I logged in one, saved a random file, then logged in the other and opened it.
[11:13] <RockClimber> Flannel, I was thinking useful stuff like openoffice.org but I guess flash has it's place ;-P
[11:13] <neozen> ferronica: ok.. well then that question is solved
[11:13] <SonicChao> velko, huh? D: How do I just get the one with the most updated kernel?
[11:13] <ferronica> neozen: what  K-ubuntu for?
[11:13] <Flannel> RockClimber: Well, flash9 was a major improvement over 7.  I don't believe OOo is in backports.  you'd have to check.  packages.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <blippe> neozen: edubuntu is also a great fatserver/thinclient distro
[11:13] <neozen> ferronica: uses kde instead of gnome
[11:14] <blippe> ferronica: ubuntu with kde without gnome
[11:14] <jano_> stefg, thx man
[11:14] <velko> SonicChao: install the "kernel metapackage" on wich the most recent kernel depends and deinstall the manually installed kernels
[11:14] <RockClimber> Flannel, not in the license :-P and not in the content :-)
[11:14] <sud0n1m> can anyone tell me if I remove 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 from the /etc/inittab will I still be able to ssh in?
[11:14] <ferronica> neozen: oh okay
[11:14] <Flannel> neozen, blippe, if you want the edubuntu for a desktop, you ought to intsall ubuntu,then install the edubuntu games/themes/etc.  Edubuntu itself is designed for server/thinclient/classroom sort of thing
[11:14] <afreddin> Does anyone here know about computer architecture?
[11:14] <dooglus> sud0n1m: you will
[11:14] <Flannel> RockClimber: in stability and usability.
[11:14] <sud0n1m> dooglus: Cool - thanks!
[11:14] <SonicChao> velko, Kernel metapackage? :( Um...
[11:14] <ferronica> neozen: what you prefer to do order CD or download
[11:14] <dooglus> sud0n1m: that line is for the virtual consoles on alt-f1 through alt-f6
[11:15] <blippe> ferronica: if you install ubuntu on your computer you could add kubuntu and xubuntu by installing "xubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: I don't order the cds
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: I just download them
[11:15] <dooglus> sud0n1m: so long as sshd is running and you don't block the ssh port, you can ssh in
[11:15] <afreddin> ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT VIRTUAL MEMORY PLZ PM ME
[11:15] <ferronica> neozen: i think you got good ISP
[11:15] <stefg> !caps
[11:15] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:15] <SonicChao> !pm > afreddin
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: heh....
[11:15] <velko> SonicChao: i can help you only with the concept, not with the exact names because i don't run ubuntu. it looks like that:
[11:15] <neozen> ferronica: college has a huge pipe
[11:15] <dooglus> afreddin: ASK IN THE CHANNEL THEN WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM THE ANSWER
[11:15] <bokey> ***remember people, someone somewhere who does not have access to internet can always use shipit CDs. So, order carefully*** :)
[11:15] <sud0n1m> dooglus: awesome. Im trying to make sure I dont lock myself out of my VPS while I lock it down
[11:15] <afreddin> ary capslock
[11:15] <neozen> !caps
[11:16] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[11:16] <SonicChao> velko,  like that: ?
[11:16] <mzanfardino> I've been tasked with discoverying what is wrong with a server we have that is formatted with Windows.  I want to know what tools I have available to me to analys the harddrives and system components using a live CD.  Any recommended liveCD's dedicated to system analysis?
[11:16] <velko> SonicChao: metapackages are empty packages on which other packages depend. they are used to install several packages at once (say ubuntu-desktop) or the most recent version of a package (say the most recent kernel)
[11:17] <velko> SonicChao: sorry - slowly typing :-)
[11:17] <dooglus> velko: that sounds like it oughta be a factoid in the bot
[11:17] <SonicChao> velko, so if I deinstall the 'metapackage' for the old kernel...?
[11:18] <tomasz> Hello i've got a problem with cpu frequency scalling. Got 7.04 and C2D and seems not to work;/ Been searching the internet for 5 past days and I am a bit confused, anyone could help?
[11:18] <velko> SonicChao: you haven't installed metapackage for the kernel and therefore you got this problem
[11:18] <judgen> i need my computer to press the space button every 12 seconds. without me sitting by the computer, any ideas?
[11:18] <velko> SonicChao: maybe someone else here could help you with the exact names?
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: uninstalling a metapackage will have no effect until the metapackage gets updated to refer to new stuff - then you won't get the new stuff that you would have got if you'd left it installed.
[11:19] <stefg> !feisty | tomas
[11:19] <ubotu> tomas: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:19] <stefg> !feisty | tomasz
[11:19] <ubotu> tomasz: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:19] <SonicChao> ok dooglus. Can you help me maybe? It seems I have 2 kernels somehow.
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: don't we all?
[11:19] <SonicChao> dooglus, :(
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: one's a 'backup' in case the other fscks up
[11:19] <mzanfardino> no good diagnostics utilties ?
[11:19] <SonicChao> I want to remove the oldest one
[11:19] <dooglus> SonicChao: why?
[11:20] <afreddin> anyways I here is my question I have a virtual Address space of 16MB and the page table for a running process includes the following entries: Virt Page 2 -> Phys page 4   Virt page1 -> phys frame 2   Virt page 0 ->phys frame 1  Virt page 4 -> phys frame 9    virt page 3 -> phys page 16///////   each page is 1024 bytes and the max physical memory size of the PC is 2MB            how many bits are required for each virtual address
[11:20] <tomasz> Thx, sorry! bye
[11:20] <SonicChao> dooglus, Because there are 4 lines for ubuntu in my grub screen.
[11:20] <dooglus> afreddin: that's probably too much of a 'grown up' question for #ubuntu.  don't you want to install some video card drivers instead?  ;)
[11:20] <SonicChao> 2 are (recovery)
[11:20] <dooglus> SonicChao: that's how it should be.  the last-but-one kernel is there as a backup
[11:20] <drygnfyre> hi, does anyone know if GIMP 2.3 is available in the repos yet? or must i install an isolated .deb?
[11:21] <jonaskul_> what is error 21?
[11:21] <stefg> !info gimp
[11:21] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2891 kB, installed size 7900 kB
[11:21] <SonicChao> dooglus, It wasn like that when I first installed ubuntu, was it?
[11:21] <afreddin> not really i have an exam in an hour
[11:21] <LinTux> Anybody know where I can get a version of callme for skype that works in Ubuntu
[11:21] <dooglus> SonicChao: I don't think ubuntu installs 2 kernels, but each time the kernel version is bumped, the last-but-one kernel version is kept
[11:21] <ror> woohoo found http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: probably because when you first install, the installed kernel is known to be good, so there's no need of a backup
[11:22] <SonicChao> dooglus, This is normal, then? I am just over reacting then?
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: it's normal, yes
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: I only have one kernel, but I'm running a live CD
[11:22] <dooglus> SonicChao: everyone else has 2.
[11:22] <Thiago_Chiclete> ol
[11:22] <SonicChao> Ok. Thanks. What kernel should I boot to then?
[11:23] <dooglus> SonicChao: the one with the bigger number
[11:23] <dooglus> jonaskul_: #define EISDIR 21 /* Is a directory */
[11:23] <Taime1> how do i use vncserver so that i can connect to my linux box from my windows box at work?
[11:23] <dooglus> jonaskul_: (from /usr/include/linux/errno.h)
[11:24] <SonicChao> dooglus, thanks :) So you boot to the other one when you get a '[KERNEL PANIC] '? :D (I have had one before D: )
[11:24] <dooglus> Taime1: do you want to connect to your existing desktop, or to a separate desktop?
[11:24] <Taime1> vnc viewer seems to be installed, but i dont know how to setup the server
[11:24] <Dybber> Can I get the new Gnome-control-center to appear in the System-menu?
[11:24] <dooglus> SonicChao: that's it.  if the kernel with the biggest version number stops working, you've got a 'spare' to use to fix it - that's the idea
[11:24] <Stormx2> Taime1: vnc viewer is the viewer, not the server...
[11:24] <Taime1> i know
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: see 'remote desktop' on the 3rd menu somewhere?
[11:25] <jonaskul_> i dont understand. it came from a fresh installation right now. when is was loading grub
[11:25] <Taime1> thats my question... how to use the server... is it even installed?
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: 'remote desktop' is ubuntuese for VNC
[11:25] <Stormx2> Taime1: yeah, actually
[11:25] <Taime1> ahh
[11:25] <SonicChao> dooglus: thank you :D
[11:25] <Taime1> lemme look into it
[11:25] <Stormx2> Taime1: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[11:25] <LinTux> t is the command to install a file via the SH command
[11:25] <dooglus> Taime1: I don't know why they have to use such weird language; why can't they just use regular English?
[11:25] <Taime1> be back later
[11:26] <LinTux> whatt is the command to install a file via the SH command
[11:26] <dooglus> LinTux: "sh sudo apt-get install file.deb" ?
[11:27] <drygnfyre> is there an easy way to install Firefox 3 alpha 3 alongside the official Firefox 2 from the package manager?
[11:27] <chili555> LinTux sh <file>.sh after u make it executable, of course
[11:27] <PovAddict> how do I reboot forcing the system to run fsck on startup?
[11:27] <PovAddict> manpages aren't being helpful
[11:28] <dooglus> PovAddict: is it an ext3 fs?
[11:28] <PovAddict> um
[11:28] <PovAddict> yeah it is
[11:29] <erUSUL> PovAddict: 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[11:29] <nickreynolds> can anyone help me with setting up ubuntu as an gateway
[11:30] <PovAddict> ok, hoping it will work
[11:30] <grameentechie> Looking for some really basic help with apt-get NetworkManager.  Newbie
[11:30] <dooglus> PovAddict: see 'man tune2fs'
[11:30] <nickreynolds> how do i get my ubuntu machine to allow my other computers to connect to the internet
[11:31] <dooglus> PovAddict: that can be used to tell it to check the filesystem on every boot
[11:31] <PovAddict> dooglus: already rebooted and lost ssh connection, waiting...
[11:31] <Enverex> What's going on with Feisty? One boot my drives are hdX next time they are sdX now they are back to being hdX
[11:31] <dooglus> PovAddict: bear in mind that you'll not be able to interact with the fsck process - the sshd won't come up until after it's finished
[11:32] <PovAddict> I know
[11:32] <dooglus> PovAddict: did you try an fsck while it was mounted?
[11:32] <solifugus> Question: How can I find out what my screen resolution is?
[11:32] <PovAddict> there's actually a human there watching, but he's not very linux-expert
[11:33] <velko> SonicChao: passwd
[11:33] <solifugus> How can I find out what resolution X is running at?
[11:33] <PovAddict> dooglus: errors already
[11:33] <PovAddict> ata2: translated ata stat/err 0xd0/00 to scsi sk/asc/ascq 0xb/7/00
[11:33] <Shirmpy_> what is the thing yo love most about ubuntu
[11:33] <ash211> solifugus: `xrandr`
[11:33] <PovAddict> apt<3
[11:33] <solifugus> tanks!
[11:33] <basvg> SonicChao: you probably want to fiddle with System->Preferences->about me bit
[11:34] <SonicChao> oh.
[11:34] <SonicChao> I thought it would be in 'Users and Groups'
[11:34] <SonicChao> sorry.
[11:34] <SonicChao> basvg: will this change the rootpassword too? (I am the sole user)
[11:34] <dooglus> !root
[11:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:35] <PovAddict> SonicChao: if you mean the pw you use with sudo, yeah it will
[11:35] <roland_> a
[11:35] <SonicChao> POVaddct, yeah, that is what I meant.
[11:35] <PovAddict> dooglus: apparently it booted though
[11:35] <sam__> how do i make fonts in gtk1.2 less ugly?
[11:36] <sam__> they're all jaggy like the hinting is messed up
[11:36] <zax1> was here a couple of days ago, and quux gave me a command line to reinstall the tcp/ip protocols on xp - ithink it was netsh ip....something, any one knows whats the rest of it?
[11:36] <grameentechie> If I use the command sudo apt-get install, the most common response is "couldn't find package  xyz".   Help.
[11:36] <Enverex> sam_, You can't, it's GTK1, heh
[11:36] <nickreynolds> grameentechie how do i get it to install
[11:36] <nickreynolds> the network manager
[11:36] <sam__> i just want plain unantialiased helvetica
[11:36] <sam__> it's not beautiful, but it doesn't look like they're wrung out either
[11:36] <bokey> grameentechie: it's because apt can't find the package
[11:36] <PovAddict> grameentechie: apt-cache search [what you're looking for] 
[11:37] <PovAddict> grameentechie: or use aptitude, it has a visual package list
[11:37] <zax1> was here a couple of days ago, and quux gave me a command line to reinstall the tcp/ip protocols on xp - ithink it was netsh ip....something, any one knows whats the rest of it?
[11:37] <bokey> grameentechie: do "sudo apt-cache <package-name>" to look for the package
[11:37] <Taime1> so in Remote Desktop, it tells me that people can connect to my desktop by using the command vncviewer name-of-my-computer:0    i dont see how that could possibly work
[11:37] <bokey> !apt | grameentechie:
[11:37] <ubotu> grameentechie:: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:37] <Taime1> what am i missing here?
[11:37] <bokey> !ask | Taime1
[11:37] <ubotu> Taime1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:37] <PovAddict> Taime1: "i dont see how that could possibly work" what do you mean?
[11:38] <dooglus> Taime1: vnc adds 5900 to the given 'display' number
[11:38] <dooglus> so :0 means port 5900
[11:38] <Taime1> bokey, look at what i typed
[11:38] <glos_wifi> can any1 help me, just installed 6.10 and i cant get my wifi card to work, even though it says on the wiki "works out of the box"
[11:38] <velko> Taime1: ignore dooglus advice. the does not mean the port number
[11:38] <dooglus> Taime1: try 'telnet localhost 5900' - it should connect, showing you that the vnc server is listening on port 5900
[11:38] <Contract> Hi I installed ubuntu server 6.10 and I'm trying to get the gui installed but when I try "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" it tells me it cannot find the ubuntu-desktop package.
[11:39] <PovAddict> and that other thunder almost gives me a heart attack
[11:39] <dooglus> velko: I wasn't offering advice, I was telling him what was going on.
[11:39] <grameentechie> I'm following the advice of this guy http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux/  which supposedly helps me get WEP going.  I've tried "restricted xxx" where xxx is the WEP key in the built-in network configuration tool.
[11:39] <velko> Taime1: your peer have to connect to your computer using "xvncviewer <your_ip_address>:0"
[11:39] <PovAddict> Taime1: it worked for me (connecting to your computer), asked me password
[11:39] <dooglus> velko: that's not true.
[11:40] <Taime1> before you start thats what i thought
[11:40] <velko> dooglus: why not?
[11:40] <Taime1> oops
[11:40] <Shafto> !find ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <ubotu> Found: edubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <dooglus> velko: from a windows box they could connect without having to type that
[11:40] <Taime1> i mean, thats what i thought
[11:40] <PovAddict> you don't need the :0
[11:40] <Shafto> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <PovAddict> it's the default
[11:40] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:40] <dooglus> velko: using realvnc on windows, for example, they would connect using <his ip>:5900
[11:40] <grameentechie> [bokey]  I tried sudo apt-cache and don't find the exact package mentioned.
[11:40] <bokey> Taime1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11vnc
[11:40] <PovAddict> or without the :5900
[11:40] <Taime1> well, then the remote desktop setup screen is just wrong then?.... i wonder why it has it written that way
[11:40] <velko> dooglus: maybe i missed something. i think he speaks about another linux box
[11:41] <NemesisD> hey guys I have mysql installed on my windows partition (ntfs) and I'm looking to create a symbolic link to my linux mysql datadir
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: maybe he does, but you said the peer *has* to use xvncviewer.  they don't.
[11:41] <bokey> Taime1: well then there is no package by that name
[11:41] <Taime1> will someone try to connect ?
[11:41] <NemesisD> will this prevent mysql from writing to the ntfs partition?
[11:41] <velko> dooglus: :0 mean the x display number, not the port
[11:41] <instabin> I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: they can use any vnc viewer which will connect on port 5900
[11:41] <bokey> Taime1: yeah. /msg me your IP
[11:41] <Taime1> anyone else?
[11:41] <Taime1> haha
[11:41] <dooglus> velko: display :0 is port 5900, display :1 is port 5901, display :x is port (5900+x).
[11:41] <dooglus> geddit?
[11:42] <Taime1> just teasin ya, bokey
[11:42] <velko> dooglus: thank you. didn't knew that
[11:42] <instabin> can anyone help?
[11:42] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?.
[11:42] <bokey> POVaddct: i don't /whois people. ;)
[11:42] <PovAddict> display :0 port 5900 is the default, you don't need to type it explicitly; hostname/ip alone will work
[11:42] <glos_wifi> can any1 help me, just installed 6.10 and i cant get my wifi card to work, even though it says on the wiki "works out of the box"
[11:43] <dooglus> Taime1: password?
[11:43] <instabin> I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:43] <Flannel> !wifi | glos_wifi
[11:43] <ubotu> glos_wifi: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:43] <Taime1> possward
[11:43] <Taime1> hehe
[11:43] <Flannel> instabin: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[11:43] <instabin> Flannel Thanks
[11:43] <sakabatou> What is the ctrl + alt + del equivalent for linux ?
[11:43] <Shafto> instabin: You tried just changing driver back to "nv" in x conf?
[11:43] <Crazytom> glos_wifi, what chipset?
[11:43] <dooglus> Taime1: I can connect, but the password is wrong
[11:44] <atselby> instabin: what's your problem?
[11:44] <Taime1> port number5901, sorry
[11:44] <PovAddict> sakabatou: ctrl + alt + del usually reboots your machine on Linux
[11:44] <instabin> Shafto I did but i want to use the restricted driver
[11:44] <glos_wifi> Crazytom: Realtek RTL8185
[11:44] <instabin> atselby: I upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i used the restricted drives manager to install the nvidia driver it wont start x. Says it faild to load glx
[11:44] <Shafto> instabin: Just thought to maybe get it up and running XD
[11:44] <instabin> Shafto: yep got it up and running when i modified the xorg.conf
[11:45] <caldera> hola
[11:45] <atselby> instabin: yeah, im not familar with the restricted drivers manager but yesterday tehre was basically the god of it in +1 so.. good luck.
[11:45] <instabin> shafto: but i want the restricted driver so i can use beryl
[11:45] <bokey> Taime1: all good ?
[11:45] <Taime1> i think so
[11:45] <bokey> caldera: change that nick. :P
[11:45] <Shafto> instabin: Maybe try #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: your server is listening on port 5900 (display :0) not 5901
[11:46] <Taime1> nono
[11:46] <instabin> Shafto: Im already there
[11:46] <Taime1> i am on two computers right now
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: oh, I see
[11:46] <Taime1> i am trying to test the one that is using 5901
[11:46] <Shafto> instabin: Well if its a feisty problem they're most likely to know
[11:46] <dooglus> Taime1: same external IP address?
[11:46] <nickreynolds> does anyone know how to setup a ubuntu machine to be a network gateway
[11:46] <grameentechie> PovAddict:  Using the visual package list as well.   I've modified my sources by hand.
[11:47] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?
[11:47] <nickreynolds> i have a dynamic ip address for the internet connection
[11:47] <Taime1> yes, dooglus
[11:47] <dooglus> Taime1: you'll need to forward port 5901 on the router
[11:47] <PovAddict> YEAY
[11:47] <dooglus> PovAddict: sorted?
[11:47] <Taime1> i did that
[11:47] <PovAddict> mkinitrd crap worked fine after rebooting and forcing fsck
[11:47] <Taime1> im testing it right now
[11:47] <Taime1> hang on
[11:47] <dooglus> PovAddict: yay!
[11:48] <Taime1> thank you guys for all the help!!
[11:48] <Taime1> somedays i get totally ignored, today i had way to many people involved, haha
[11:48] <nickreynolds> anyone know anything on setting up a network gateway machine
[11:48] <Taime1> but thank you
[11:48] <bokey> Taime1: it's Ubuntu.
[11:48] <bokey> heh
[11:48] <PovAddict> Taime1: not strange with 1093 users on a channel
[11:48] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have set up a few
[11:49] <bokey> the rule is that less people there are on the channel, the better
[11:49] <bokey> ;)
[11:49] <nickreynolds> is it possible to use one with a dynamic ip DSL connection
[11:49] <ppepp> is it likely a ubuntu box can be (h)accessed and have some remotedesktop type thing put on it? i have an overly sensitive mousepad but i swear i see it moving sometimes.
[11:49] <drega> SonicChao: passwd
[11:49] <atselby> I've read stuff that on Dell Inspirons there's a windows app that lets you control fan speeds etc. Is there an equivalant on Linux?
[11:49] <b^j> nickreynolds, sure, i did it that way for a while
[11:49] <SonicChao> drega: o.o
[11:49] <SonicChao> I learned that a long time ago
[11:49] <jpsamara> ubuntu should have an firewall by default
[11:50] <SonicChao> but thanks anyway :)
[11:50] <Lattyware> Best Slashdot Joke Ever: In Soviet Ubuntu - Apt Gets You!
[11:50] <SonicChao> Lattyware, haha, agreed
[11:50] <nickreynolds> i was using a linksys router but know want use this
[11:50] <bokey> jpsamara: yes it does.
[11:50] <bokey> !iptables | jpsamara
[11:50] <ubotu> jpsamara: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:51] <nickreynolds> can i route my internet connection through my ubuntu box then through my linksys to my other machines
[11:51] <nickreynolds> my windows machines
[11:51] <glos_wifi> !wifi
[11:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:51] <bokey> nickreynolds: your question is little bit flawed. Can you please be more specific ?
[11:51] <b^j> nickreynolds, sure
[11:52] <b^j> nickreynolds, you just need to set up your ubunutu box to NAT for the rest
[11:52] <drega> nickreynolds: why are you looking to do it this way?
[11:52] <Worrum> hello, does anyone know where i could find help with NetworkManager shipped with the new feisty fawn?
[11:52] <Flannel> Worrum: #ubuntu+1 for the time being
[11:52] <Worrum> thanks
[11:52] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have not set that up with linux for a while, but there are good docs out there
[11:53] <nickreynolds> I am trying to setup a network gateway, to authenticate users, store data, and be a firewall. At present I have the ubuntu box with to network cards in them. One hooked up to the net, and the other to my router WAN
[11:53] <b^j> nickreynolds, i am using an openbsd box to do just that currently
[11:53] <nickreynolds> i am unsure where to go from here
[11:53] <Crazytom> nickreynolds, look up ipchains
[11:53] <kitche> nickreynolds: I would use a router livecd for now until you do some reasearch
[11:54] <bokey> Crazytom: ipchains is deprecated.
[11:54] <bokey> !iptables | nickreynolds
[11:54] <ubotu> nickreynolds: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:54] <velko> Crazytom: iptables replaced ipchains
[11:54] <kitche> bah I been spellign research wrong the whoel time
[11:54] <drega> so you need to set up the routing tables to route between subnet on eth0 and eth1 or whatever your interfaces are
[11:54] <kitche> bokey: velko your both incorrect iptables does ipchains way also :)
[11:54] <Crazytom> oh ok i've been out of the game for awhile but atleast it was a place to start thanks for the info
[11:54] <drega> aye like ubotu  pointed out
[11:54] <nickreynolds> And this will allow me to share the internet between my other machines as well
[11:54] <bokey> nickreynolds: although I am not 100% sure how you could do NAT with iptables. SNAT is possible with iptables.
[11:54] <velko> kitche: i stand corrected
[11:54] <mr__daniel> do anyone know a good american magazine?
[11:55] <Kyral> For what?
[11:55] <mr__daniel> or newspaper?
[11:55] <nickreynolds> maxim
[11:55] <nickreynolds> mr. daniel maxim
[11:55] <drega> playboy
[11:55] <bokey> mr__daniel: yes. Esquire
[11:55] <mr__daniel> something like 'the times'
[11:55] <kitche> velko: just that people prefer the iptable way instead but it's backwards compatiable
[11:55] <Kyral> New York Times is considered by many to THE newspaper
[11:55] <drega> usatoday
[11:55] <bokey> mr__daniel: this is not a survey channel. please shoo
[11:55] <mr__daniel> ok
[11:56] <nickreynolds> I trying to make it so that the ubuntu machine is the PDC and network gateway
[11:56] <drega> I suppose the question should have been magazine over what topic
[11:56] <NemesisD> fixed it
[11:56] <mojojojo_> how do I set in gnome so the default file view was ListView????
[11:56] <NemesisD> hey guys, I use ultraedit for scripting in windows, is there a text editor (gui) thats generally recognized as the best for ubuntu
[11:56] <bokey> mojojojo_: if you open nautilus (which is default), you'll see the listview option in the option
[11:56] <b^j> NemesisD, gedit is good
[11:57] <drega> you using gnome? kde?
[11:57] <drega> gedit gvim
[11:57] <Kyral> NemesisD: Thats a thing thats up to opinion
[11:57] <NemesisD> gnome
[11:57] <drega> kate
[11:57] <bokey> NemesisD: yes. For start I'd recommend gedit too
[11:57] <bokey> !gedit | NemesisD
[11:57] <ubotu> NemesisD: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:57] <Kyral> Vim, Kate, GEdit, Netbeans, KDevelop, Emacs...
[11:57] <NemesisD> okie dokie, thanks
[11:58] <bokey> NemesisD: press ALT+F2 and type "gedit"
[11:58] <bokey> ;)
[11:58] <nickreynolds> i have ubuntu connected directly to the net, and also connected to my linksys router WAN, why can't the other machines on my network get on the web
[11:58] <mojojojo_> bokey: but I want to open like that ALWAYS and at startup
[11:58] <b^j> nickreynolds, have you set up a NAT yet?
[11:58] <bokey> mojojojo_: add it to your startup configuration.
[11:58] <velko> mojojojo_: go to the preferences. it's on the first page, man
[11:58] <atselby> Anyone here have a Dell Inspiron?
[11:58] <nickreynolds> no sure how, and what is that BJ
[11:58] <bokey> mojojojo_: look inside Ubuntu Menu > System >
[11:59] <bokey> mojojojo_: i am not using gnome so can't help
[11:59] <mojojojo_> bokey: ok, thank you
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, i have not done it for a while. google "linux nat iptables" there are lots of guides
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, i use openbsd for that
[11:59] <nickreynolds> ok thank you
[11:59] <velko> mojojojo_: open the preferences in nautilus. on the first tab is the option you are looking for
[11:59] <nickreynolds> why
[11:59] <bokey> nickreynolds: you can always use shorewall if you are more techie oriented.
[11:59] <bokey> nickreynolds: ;)
[11:59] <b^j> nickreynolds, personal preference, i prefer pf to iptables
[12:00] <nickreynolds> k
[12:00] <Kyral> PortSentry!
[12:00] <nickreynolds> i see
[12:00] <nickreynolds> what is shorewall
[12:00] <bokey> !shorewall | nickreynolds
[12:00] <ubotu> nickreynolds: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:00] <nickreynolds> a firewall?
[12:00] <bokey> !info shorewall | nickreynolds
[12:00] <Kyral> PortSentry > All
[12:00] <ubotu> nickreynolds: shorewall: Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall), a high-level tool for configuring Netfilter. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1096 kB