[12:19] Riddell: Thanks [12:21] Riddell: this rocks :) I did not know that about Bazaar, you know what it just went up 1 knotch on my "this is great" list [12:22] ScottK: congratulations [12:22] I still have a couple of sections left, about 30 minutes to an hour total, but I would like you to look it over and see if you like the direction of it [12:22] nixternal: it's really the killer feature [12:22] yes it is [12:22] this is great [12:22] Thanks [12:22] nixternal: I'm about to go to bed I'm afraid, it'll need to be tomorrow [12:22] that's fine, it will be done by then [12:22] anyone know how to get the nvidia drivers working on feisty? [12:22] and if you need any edits you can tell me in the morning [12:23] jbruckman: #kubuntu [12:23] or #ubuntu+1 [12:23] i'm on kubuntu [12:23] jbruckman: talk to Freddy, he is at the same school as you [12:23] yeah, he is. he's sleeping [12:23] :-p [12:23] hahaha [12:24] jbruckman: this is the dev channel, so you won't get answers here unless it is development related [12:24] jbruckman: #ubuntu-chicago man! Freddy hasn't taught you guys yet ey [12:24] ok. the reason i asked here though, is that I'm aware of a bunch of bugs out there realted to it === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] and was oping to catch the guy looking at them. :-p [12:24] Freddy is awake [12:24] hoping* [12:24] he is talking ot me on IRC [12:24] damn him. [12:24] i'm going downstairs. [12:24] lol [12:25] haha [12:25] afk [12:25] oh wait, he is in the shower, so be careful ;p [12:25] fo0d time [12:26] yeah, found that out.... === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-56-221.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] nixternal: http://qdb.us/79712 [12:41] nixternal: can I have that? [01:00] hahaha [01:00] I wonder who in the heck posted that === badworm425 [n=eric_tay@121-72-136-50.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180069021.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] nixternal: so, can I get it? [01:13] lemme email it to ya :) [01:14] lemme just be the first to say, you aren't missing much with Office 2007. It is actually very confusing if you are used to the old layout [01:14] nixternal: well not used at all, I'm interested it as education purposes === lucas_ [n=lucas@46-14.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@74.213.82.21] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] rhel and fedora, with centos :o [01:38] lnxkde: you're in nice mix of distros === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.0.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:31] hmm... any pyqt4 genius' around here? === ryanakca is getting errors and he has no clue what they mean [02:32] what tis it be [02:32] I have been messing around with PyQt, I need to know what to look out for ;p === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.0.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] Traceback (most recent call last): [03:06] File "kcipher.py", line 10, in [03:06] class KCipherApplication(QApplication): [03:06] NameError: name 'QApplication' is not defined [03:06] nixternal: ^^ === zakame_ is now known as zakame [03:12] you have the code posted anywhere? [03:13] app = appname.QApplication (sys.argv) [03:13] isn't that how you define with Python? === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] evening nixternal [03:28] evening to you as well jjesse [03:28] nixternal: hey i might be in chicago for training the 2nd week of may [03:29] well we will have to get together if you make it out [03:29] in the City? [03:29] yeah in the city [03:29] eww, but OK ;p [03:29] that bad eh? [03:30] I am not a big fan of the city, but it is OK to visit every now and then [03:30] i'll be visiting in training all week, looking up the place === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@220.207.110.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] sorry went afk for a bit [03:35] hehe [03:35] i'm sick of dealing w/ hotel internet [03:35] it sucks sometime, makes you "sign in" every 24 hours [03:38] it seems vmware and 64bit feisty will never work, unless I do player [03:38] that's a bummer [03:39] nixternal: class will be at [03:39] Chicago, IL (14-May-2007 - 18-May-2007) [03:39] 230 W. Monroe, Ste 550 [03:40] right by my old job [03:41] nixternal: yep, just a sec, I'll push [03:42] nixternal: https://launchpad.net/kcipher ... trunk -> Browse code [03:42] revision 15 [03:43] nixternal: vmware on amd64 feisty works fine here... [03:44] i think it is nixternal's fault :) [03:44] I based it on http://vizzzion.org/?id=pyqt#designer [03:44] ryanakca: player, workstation or server? 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Keymessage being: "KDE is not C++ only, if you want to code in other languages, you're welcome" [01:07] With some freedom bits punning Mono maybe [01:07] ? mono is free [01:07] Python is more free [01:08] As in the implementation is not being prescribed by 'The Evil' [01:08] it's not controlled by a company right enough [01:08] yes [01:08] That's right, it doesn't really *feel* free either. But that discussion is nothing we want, actually. [01:08] There are enough clueless dorks hanging around on the dot already ;-) [01:10] you recon it's dot material? [01:10] Yes, what else? [01:10] blogs, commit-digest [01:10] but if you say it's dot, lets do it [01:10] We're trying to push non-C++ stuff for some time already, that's generally agreed on, I think [01:11] Scripting languages can be first class citizens (though not suited for every single use case) [01:11] _Sime: fancy giving us a quote on why python and not c++? all good stories need a quote [01:11] +1 === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-73-152.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] ooh, don't call python a scripting language, you'll have all the python programmers after you [01:12] Yes, we'd put it positive, just name it first class citizen. [01:12] heh, so true [01:12] And for PCness, mention that Ruby is fine as well =) [01:12] but not perl ;-) [01:12] apokryphos: did I spot you gaining membership yesterday? [01:13] Riddell: yeah 8) [01:13] Yes, Perl is obviously some different beast ;-) [01:13] perl is needed for debconf, but not much else === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-73-152.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:14] Riddell: wasn't sure whether to apply as a Kubuntu member, but I figured most of my activities are on general Ubuntu IRC === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-73-152.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:14] even though I'd never use ubuntu if it didn't have kde :P [01:14] pop along to the next kubuntu meeting and we'll grill you too :) [01:15] we should organise a meeting for some time before UDS [01:15] you mean so my head can grow even larger? =) [01:16] Wasn't there an IRC meeting while I was in Oslo? [01:16] NEver heard anything after that though [01:16] for UDS attendees yes [01:16] Anything I should know? [01:18] I thought I e-mailed you about it [01:18] it was something like.. [01:18] 1) is your travel booked [01:18] 2) register yourself on launchpad for the sprint [01:18] 3) any comments on the sessions I've scheduled [01:18] 4) any questions [01:19] Can't find that email, and don't remember it. Can you re-send it if you still have it? [01:20] didn't you show up late anyway and I poked you with those things? [01:21] Hm, don't think so. [01:21] I was really offline the whole day + night [01:23] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+mugshots heh, the +mugshots thing is still very cool 8) === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.0.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:25] sebas: dunno, can't find e-mail, but that's about all it said [01:25] Hm, ok. I'll try to play detective on launchpad for a bit then. [01:27] when i make dh_make -e email@domain dh_make use only my firstname so lintian is not happy. How can i change it and make dh_make use all my name ? [01:27] apokryphos: nice, mugshots :) [01:27] yeah [01:27] i need to improve mine. [01:27] sebas: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla/+attend [01:29] Jup, done that already. [01:30] Is there already a list with proposed specs for Kubuntu for Sevilla? [01:30] not public [01:30] here: [01:30] Adept User Notifications [01:30] Adept Cdrom Upgrades [01:30] Kubuntu Accessibilty Keyboard [01:30] Kubuntu Kiosktool [01:30] Kubuntu Feisty+1 KDE 4 Plan [01:30] Kubuntu System Settings for KDE 4 [01:30] Kubuntu Guidance for KDE 4 [01:30] Kubuntu Restricted Manager [01:30] Kubuntu Feisty+1 Adept Plan [01:30] Kubuntu KDE Bluetooth [01:31] Kubuntu Remove Media Safely [01:31] Edubuntu KDE [01:31] Kubuntu Website [01:31] Kubuntu Default Filemanager [01:31] Kubuntu and meduxa discussion [01:31] meduxa and malone [01:31] When will those be made public? Am I doing something wrong, I only see one blueprint ("composite by default") [01:34] sebas: not sure what the plan is, for some reason they're not using launchpad for the specs (yet) [01:35] Hm, ok. === Saied [n=Saied@80.191.2.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:41] all, Hi [01:42] I have problem with my kde-i18n-fa package [01:43] I have upgraded to kubuntu feisty with KDE 3.5.6 and I have installed kde-i18n-fa package for gui translation to persian [01:45] all things are OK except showing of some characters in persian language is wrong specially (h in persian) appears as a square [01:47] could be a fonts issue or could be a qt issue [01:47] does the character appear in gnome applications? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Saied [n=Saied@80.191.2.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@193.252.118.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:52] Riddell: http://sinecera.de/feistyreleasepic.png [01:52] let me know what you think [01:52] kwwii_: funky [01:52] kwwii_: I don't really like the turqouise [01:53] It also looks a bit rough [01:53] (I'll shut up about green right now ;-)) [01:55] why don't we provide the akode engine for amarok? [01:56] Saied: 12:47 < Riddell> could be a fonts issue or could be a qt issue12:47 < Riddell> does the character appear in gnome applications? [02:01] Riddell: thanks for your attention. i try to upload a screenshot [02:02] Riddell: i didn't try with Gnome but i think this problem is specific to KDE :( === raphink [n=raphink@193.252.118.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@222.92.36.122] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] Riddell: this is screenshot. see squares in menu items: http://i19.tinypic.com/4dpypnp.png [02:25] mm, nasty [02:25] as I say you need to test it in gnome so we can find out where the problem is [02:25] wouldn't surprise me if it was in qt 3, chinese has had issues too [02:26] Riddell: by which package i can install all Gnome packages? apt-get install gnome ? [02:27] ubuntu-desktop will give you the full ubuntu desktop. [02:28] fdoving: thanks [02:29] Saied: quicker just to install say gedit and test one app [02:31] Riddell: need to install language-pack-gnome-fa ? which package provide Gnome translation to persian? [02:32] Saied: could do, I was thinking you could just type the character into gedit [02:33] Riddell: I've started a spec for kmail with S/MIME by default. Nothing I need help with, but it'd be nice for it to be on a list somewhere. [02:33] Riddell: currently i have no problem with typing in KDE . just showing some characters specially [02:33] Saied: so if you type that character it shows ok? [02:34] Riddell: maybe in can be solved by changing font [02:34] Riddell: yes. it shows OK === apachelogger [n=me@N827P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] weird === manchicken [n=manchkn@adsl-76-199-11-5.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB06.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@124.189.12.176] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] wow I just came in a bit before Hobbsee? :D [03:01] yes Jucato, as a matter of fact [03:01] hi raphink :) [03:02] feisty release will push through on the 19th? (I've been out of the loop for a few days) [03:02] hi Jucato! [03:02] hi Jucato && Hobbsee [03:02] hi Hobbsee [03:02] Jucato: last i knew, yes [03:02] hi raphink [03:02] yes Jucato (been out of the loop for a few months) [03:02] yes! [03:03] grab CDs while its hot! [03:03] ooooh! hi jsgotangco!!! [03:03] hi jsgotangco [03:03] hi raphink! === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm103.omega23.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] Good evening Hobbsee. [03:07] hi ScottK === ScottK is a member now... [03:07] yay! [03:08] congrats [03:09] Thanks === dogmatism [n=dogmatis@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] nixternal: where can I find your kubuntu-website branch? [03:22] https://code.launchpad.net/~nixternal/kubuntu-website/main hasn't been updated [03:25] Riddell: I suppose getting a new version of kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts into feisty is something like impossible? [03:26] apachelogger: are those the stuff like gg: or uwikis: in Konqueror? [03:26] yep [03:26] apachelogger: yes [03:26] why? [03:26] \_o< [03:27] Riddell: bug search is kind of broken [03:27] and package search is doing a query for dapper [03:27] (and there is not shortcut for searching help.ubuntu.com/community, only for wiki.ubuntu.com) [03:28] so it is [03:28] ubug works for me with a bug number [03:28] but who knows the precise bug number? ;-) [03:28] Jucato: gotta add one, as it's not going into feisty anyway :) [03:29] :) [03:29] I get numbers given to me all the time for bugs [03:30] yeah, but not if one searches for a term, and a term based search seems pretty obvious to me [03:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=\\{@} [03:31] works for terms AND numbers [03:33] maybe we can use ubugno for bug number search and ubugft for full text (following the default KDE ones)? [03:39] well [03:39] ubug will work for both [03:39] current keys: ubug,ubugno,ubugft,lpbug,lpbugno,lpbugft === mbiebl [n=michael@e180067248.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@adsl-76-199-11-5.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:50] sebas: fancy updating http://extragear.kde.org/ for guidance? [03:53] Riddell: Yes. [03:53] hm === apachelogger is getting a checkout of amarok's extragear page [03:54] apachelogger: i like the order plugin for rbot, btw [03:54] (i think you wrote it) [03:54] apachelogger: If you want things changed but lack the karma to commit, just send me the patch [03:55] sebas: got www karma when I was working on the kde brilliant buttons, thanks anyway :) [03:55] Hobbsee: yeah, I'm glad you like it :D [03:56] :D [03:56] apachelogger: All the better =) [03:56] apachelogger: which it was done for supybot, though :P [03:57] Hobbsee: hm? === raphink [n=raphink@193.252.118.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:57] apachelogger: sorry, s/which/wish/ [03:57] well [03:58] ruby FTW :P === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:01] Ruby's parser is too buggy ;) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] heya [04:07] oh noes it's bddebian, hiiideee!!! === Tm_T hides [04:07] EVERYBODY RUUUUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:07] Hi Tm_T [04:08] el panico! [04:08] yes, I need some sleep === instructor [n=instruct@port0122-abg-s-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] How come we use mawk instead of gawk? === raphink [n=raphink@193.252.118.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] Riddell: shall I upload the new kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts to revu or just send a debdiff? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stivani [n=stivani@d5152A75F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] apachelogger: revu [04:32] k [04:42] hm, is there no single repository that would have all the latest kde4 snapshots? [04:42] making a techbase page for kde4 distribution packages [04:43] no [04:44] ok, I'll just try to keep the page updated again [04:45] what's the advantage to just not having a single repo for it though? [04:45] when did kdm start overwriting the xorg.conf? I've got a bunch of non working systems because it wants to change the bus ID of these crappy SIS cards? [04:45] kdm won't [04:45] /etc/init.d/kde-guidance might [04:46] ah, okay. I'll check that. [04:46] yeah, that must be it, thanks. === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@adsl-76-199-11-5.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:48] hehe, thought it was kdm because I edited the kdm outside the chroot for the nfs booting machines. [04:50] yep, that was it - thanks Riddell [04:50] Riddell: extragear page is updated === yveslu [n=yves@217.31.69.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@217.31.69.98] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N827P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:06] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4833 === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@193.252.118.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:21] <_Sime> Riddell: I didn't realise it was such a big event. It is worth noting that it currently runs on KDE 3, not 4. Port will be later. [05:25] good point [05:26] fancy coming up with a quote for us on why pykde is the goodness? [05:26] Riddell: I don't know what the problem was there, I recreated the branch and just committed revision 42 [05:26] so give it a few and check it out [05:27] I am waiting to see if you like those sections, and if you want to change some stuff around first. then I will do the screen shots since those only take a few minutes to do [05:28] sections are fine [05:28] I may have comments when I get to see the page I suppose [05:33] yup, that is why I am waiting :) [05:34] I am not 100% happy with a couple of sections, towards the bottom, that I would still like to tweak === acidBURN [n=rn@cpe-72-184-186-31.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] nixternal: but I have no way of seeing it [05:43] Is there a link page, with all the updates or new features, that feisty is going to have over dapper ? [05:43] over edgy most probably. === Jucato glances at nixternal :) [05:44] nixternal: ah, your bzr archive is updated now [05:44] let me look at it [05:46] Riddell: ya, I don't get why bzr updates like 15 minutes after a push/commit [05:47] So, far the beta, looks the same, as edgy excluding a beta update and bug fixes... [05:47] acidBURN: have you seen the other release pages? from Herd 1 to 5? [05:47] give me a link pls [05:48] acidBURN: the Beta page has links to the 5 pages [05:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Beta/Kubuntu [05:48] but, I been using feisty since it became stable, on this machine and edgy on another.... there nothing I can that is WOW [05:48] that has a link to ....what Jucato said [05:49] acidBURN: the goal for Feisty was to improve on Edgy and concentrate a lot of usability and accessibility [05:49] s/of/on [05:49] nxiternal: okay.. [05:50] more or less, to knock the edginess off a little :) [05:50] nxiternal: I heard that linsphere linux distro was to supposedly are going to be add ? [05:50] I'd say major areas of improvement would be Adept, the docs (ahem nixternal :D), power management, default style and some look and feel stuff [05:51] opps linspire distro [05:51] docs? impressive [05:51] the docs still have more to go [05:52] nxiternal: so are they going to be add to ubuntu distro ? [05:52] what is that? [05:52] nixternal: true, but it's a major change to switch to a topic based help system :) [05:52] add what? [05:52] I think he means CNR [05:52] its Linspire's problem not ours [05:52] hehe [05:52] Click-n-Reformat [05:52] ;p [05:53] nxiternal: no, linspire linux, is working with ubuntu and kde... [05:53] click-n-run-away? [05:53] nxiternal: yes [05:53] nxiternal: read on line.... a month ago [05:53] Linspire is based on Kubuntu now, or their future releases will be based on Kubuntu [05:53] yes [05:53] i belive they just released a freespire alpha based on kubuntu [05:53] I think he's referring to Linspire making CNR available to other distros as well [05:53] so, there depository will be added [05:53] cool [05:53] then nixternal really can have his pointy-clicky fixation satisfied... [05:54] d'oh === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-84.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] Hobbsee: quit listening to crimsun, he is evil ;p [05:54] acidBURN: if you mean Kubuntu adding linspire's repos, that's unlikely unless done explicitly [05:54] nxiternal: was wondering it this would happen with feisty [05:54] acidBURN: from what I have seen I would have to say no [05:54] just like added another to the sources.list file [05:55] nixternal: haha :P [05:55] hehe [05:56] Jucato: Still no Adept help though :( [05:56] heard they are converting over all there apps to run on "ubuntu" [05:56] acidBURN: you'd really have to ask them about it, not us [05:56] there is no adept help yet? whatever happened to the Adept Handbook? [05:56] acidBURN: it shouldn't be hard to have CNR in Ubuntu, but its linspire's call to have it available [05:56] instructor: manchicken has made some blog posts on how to use Adept (pre-feisty). [05:56] nixternal: read it [05:56] where is jjesse at, I think that is his baby and he was working upstream with that [05:57] nixternal: non-existent yet? [05:57] Jucato: I know. Are we linking to that when someone presses F1 ? [05:57] no, we used to have an Adept Handbook, so I know it exists [05:57] I just don't know where [05:57] its not on the svn? [05:57] It's not at adept_manager/index.html :) [05:57] instructor: of course not. I know what you mean but we have to do with what we have for now... (unfortunately) [05:57] jsgotangco: yup, under feisty/kubuntu/unused [05:58] nixternal: I've never seen an Adept handbook yet :( [05:58] I think that is because some of the info was incorporated into help:/kubuntu/add-applications [05:58] well, the handbook will probably need to be rewritten for feisty+ anyway... [05:58] WHoot :) [05:59] this is actually more of upstream work now [06:00] Why is mawk used instead of gawk? [06:00] although I think some of the feisty changes were made on Kubuntu's end. not really sure about the software sources thing [06:00] Isn't mawk unmaintained? [06:01] some of the feisty changes were made on kubuntu's end? [06:02] for adept I mean [06:02] ahh that makes sense [06:07] nixternal: you havn't committed any images [06:07] nixternal: and that desktop image is of edgy [06:07] Riddell: not yet, I wanted to make sure that the page was good to go, and to see if we needed changes [06:08] I have vmware fired up ready for screenys though [06:10] nixternal: the download link isn't closed [06:10] multimedia: big up that it's k3b 1.0 [06:10] roger [06:10] haha 'big up' [06:11] Riddell: you need to stop watching MTV [06:11] server: point out that you can install all the server packages from the DVD (or the ubuntu server CD) [06:11] roger [06:11] nixternal: we need a section for the upgrade tool, that's important [06:11] ah, there is one [06:11] OK, I had just linked to the wiki page, but I will create a section for it [06:12] well a screenshot at least [06:12] roger [06:12] under the hood: add that KDE 4 packages are available for the brave [06:13] haha, will do [06:15] networking: add that zeroconf is on by default (also printing too) [06:15] a section for improvements to guidance power manager might be nice [06:15] and maybe one for adept === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] gotcha [06:16] system management: new wine config available [06:16] ahh yes === mars [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-69-214.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:18] printer sharing is enabled by default? [06:21] don't think it is, there is no smb installed ootb [06:21]