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chijinapple lossless12:13
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: upgrading what distro?12:13
BloodyTuxkubuntu12:13
BloodyTuxto beta12:14
WillLuongoDaisuke_Ido: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:14
Daisuke_Idothen why the **** are you using debian repos?12:14
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Daisuke_Ido:D12:14
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BloodyTuxidk12:14
Daisuke_IdoWillLuongo: that's certainly odd12:14
BloodyTuxthe distro upgrade wants them12:14
WillLuongoI remember having a similar problem, and I manually edited a file. But I don't remember what i did.12:15
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BloodyTuxit wants to access main and restricted Packages.gz from packages.debian.org12:16
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chijinthe ubuntu upgrade tool shouldn't be doing that12:16
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BloodyTuxi know12:17
BloodyTuxbut it is12:17
adaptrBloodyTux: then they're in your sources.list12:17
BloodyTuxyea12:17
Daisuke_Idodo you have debian repos in your sou....  what he said12:17
BloodyTuxshoud it not be12:17
Daisuke_Idotake them out12:17
BloodyTuxit was there when i installed ubuntu12:17
BloodyTux*kubuntu12:17
BloodyTuxsorry12:17
adaptrerm... no, they weren't12:17
cloakableShould only be Ubuntu repos :/12:17
Daisuke_Idoum12:17
Daisuke_Idono12:17
Daisuke_Idono they weren't12:17
BloodyTuxhmmmmm12:17
adaptrif they were, somebody gave you a hacked installer :)12:17
BloodyTux:O12:18
Daisuke_Idodoubtful that that is what actually happened12:18
adaptrit's the big debian conspiracy all over again, you mark my words!12:18
Daisuke_Idobut, yeah, those shouldn't be there12:18
BloodyTuxoh wait, i remember, i used it to try to get Ace of Penguins...12:18
BloodyTuxoops12:18
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BloodyTuxdedede12:18
BloodyTuxalso before i mess up my pc by upgrading, it says that input device 168 is invalid12:19
Daisuke_Idookay12:19
Daisuke_Idothat's the wacom stuff in xorg.conf12:20
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BloodyTuxummmm... ok.12:20
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: try running any gui app from the cli12:20
Daisuke_Idolike kate12:20
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Daisuke_Idolet me know what errors x throws at you, because it will12:20
BloodyTuxfrom the cli?12:21
Daisuke_Idoterminal12:21
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Daisuke_Idocli - command line interface12:21
WillLuongoDaisuke_Ido: any other ideas?12:21
Daisuke_IdoWillLuongo: can you remove the offending package?12:22
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adaptrWillLuongo: sudo aptitude check12:22
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Daisuke_Idoooh, i like his suggestion better12:22
ubuntuwhats the feisty packages address, so i can download the stuff i need manualy12:22
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jbruckmanubuntu: there's a link on the ubuntu homepage12:23
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WillLuongoadaptr: it needs flags. any recommendations?12:23
adaptrthe addresses are in your sources.list12:23
BloodyTuxOMFG!!!!!!12:23
Daisuke_Idoyou're kiddinfg, right?12:23
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adaptrWillLuongo: it *needs* flags ?12:23
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: what blew up?12:23
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adaptrhis F girlfriend :)12:23
ubuntuadaptr if the mchine had internet i would do apt-get12:23
BloodyTuxnothing, no errors so i started the upgrade12:23
Daisuke_Idok12:24
WillLuongoadaptr: yeah, it says unknown command "check" and spits help at me.12:24
BloodyTux4 packages to remove, 109 to install, 909 to upgrade12:24
elaine__somebody knows something about any drivers for a modem pctel HSP56 to install in Kubuntu 6.1012:24
ubuntuim on the hoe page and i dont see it jbruckman12:24
elaine__pleaseee12:24
adaptrubuntu: like I said, the addresses are already in your sources.list12:24
Daisuke_Idoah12:24
BloodyTux852 mb12:24
Daisuke_Idoyeah12:24
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Daisuke_Idoyou get used to that12:24
BloodyTuxfor 2 hours on my connection12:24
adaptrWillLuongo: sorry, then try sudo apt-get check12:24
Daisuke_Idobut look how much space will actually be *used*12:24
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Daisuke_Idoa few mb, probably?12:24
BloodyTuxhow do i clear the download cache?12:24
WillLuongoadaptr: ok12:24
kim_hey! what do I have to do to make my wlan autoconnect to a certain network on startup?12:24
WillLuongoadaptr: what now?12:24
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get clean12:24
BloodyTuxget12:24
BloodyTux*k12:24
BluesKajwell gents , managed to move "/home" to it's own partition ... certainly speeds things up nicely ...so far so good12:25
adaptrWillLuongo: what did it say ?12:25
BloodyTuxbbl cause i have to close everything12:25
WillLuongoadaptr: Reading package lists... Done12:25
WillLuongoBuilding dependency tree12:25
WillLuongoReading state information... Done12:25
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BloodyTuxi'll tell you if it blew up when i get back12:25
BloodyTuxciao12:25
Daisuke_Idogood luck12:25
BloodyTuxthanks, i'll need it12:25
BloodyTuxwait, before i go, do i close the terminal i ran the upgrader in?12:26
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: i like doing that, eventually i'll go to larger SATA storage drives and have a 10gb for / and an 80 for /home12:26
Daisuke_Idoi wouldn't12:26
Daisuke_Idounless it tells you to12:26
BloodyTuxk12:26
BloodyTuxciao12:26
draco24yas tu du monde qui parle francais12:26
WillLuongo adaptr: it is still there.12:27
jbruckmanubuntu: look on the right side of the page, i believe it's there.12:27
adaptrWillLuongo: what is ?12:27
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jbruckmanubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php12:27
WillLuongoadaptr: the broken package.12:27
jbruckmanubuntu: use that link.12:27
WillLuongoadaptr: I can't get rid of it in adept, because it throws errors.12:28
BluesKajyeah , Daisuke_Ido ..my /home partition is just 25G but since itonly needs 8G atm , still some headroom left :)12:28
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rubyatis the generic kernel cpu clock rate set at 250 or 1000?12:28
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jbruckmanchemicalvamp: that should get you where you wanna go.12:28
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adaptrWillLuongo: *what* package ?12:28
chemicalvampit doesnt12:28
julioxdhola alguien ke hable espaol?12:28
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elaine__sip12:29
elaine__si12:29
adaptr!es | julioxd12:29
ubotujulioxd: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:29
julioxdhola12:29
dwidmannQuestion, can anybody else confirm that "Require password to stop screensaver" in the screensaver settings isn't working in Feisty? It seems it just stopped working for me a matter of days ago ...12:29
WillLuongoadaptr: avgt75fld12:29
elaine__hola12:29
julioxdkomo estas?12:29
WillLuongoadaptr: it installed from a .deb from the website.12:29
chemicalvampi found this site once, that showed a sorted list of packages, andone know what im talking anout?12:29
elaine__mas o menos, re quemada con un modem12:29
WillLuongoadaptr: well, the install failed from the deb, and now I can't get it out.12:29
BluesKajdwidmann, upgraded the kernel, i bet eh /12:29
elaine__que estoy tratando de hacerlo funcionar12:29
jbruckmanreading foreign languages i don't speak gives me a headache...12:29
chemicalvampque pasa mi amigp12:29
jbruckman:-\12:29
dwidmannBluesKaj: Hmm, could that do it o.O I recall there being a KDE update a couple days before that12:30
julioxdha horale yo me estoy rompiendo la cabeza kon beryl12:30
adaptrWillLuongo: install from a deb ? so you did not install it from adept at all ?12:30
chemicalvamp!beryl12:30
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:30
elaine__uuuhh12:30
WillLuongoadaptr: right. but it broke adept.12:30
jbruckmanoh god. don't use beryl!12:30
julioxdsip12:30
dwidmannjbruckman: what's wrong with beryl?12:30
chemicalvampsi beryl no beuno, muy dificile12:30
BluesKajdwidmann, sorry i can't confirm your problem tho :(12:31
dwidmann(granted, I like Kwin better, I'm just curious why you hate beryl so)12:31
adaptrWillLuongo: that's because you don't want to use unvetted DEBs if you are using a package management system and you don't know yet how it works..12:31
jbruckmandwidmann: it's just really unstable. i've known about 5 people whose systems it basically destroyed.12:31
dwidmannBluesKaj: bummer. It was working last week too :(12:31
julioxdy ke me kuentas de donde eres?12:31
adaptr!es | julioxd12:31
ubotujulioxd: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:31
jbruckmandwidmann: they had a hell of a time getting back to a working system12:31
julioxdgracias asaptr12:31
jbruckmandwidmann: one friend just reinstalled from scratch.12:31
chemicalvampadaptr he said that didnt help lol12:31
BluesKajI just let the scnsvr go until the monitor shuts off12:31
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dwidmannjbruckman: On the shiny eye candy front, I'm personally holding out for KDE4's kwin composite :)12:32
jbruckmandwidmann: yeah, i'm holding out for KDE 4 too.12:32
adaptrchemicalvamp: nobody cares - in here, you speak english or you go around misunderstood12:32
jbruckmandwidmann: i can't wait forit! *acts excited*12:32
jbruckmanhaha12:32
chemicalvampadaptr he was looing for a beryl channel for spanish12:32
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adaptrchemicalvamp: then he should ask in es12:32
adaptrit's not rocket science12:33
jbruckmanfood time.12:33
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chemicalvampadaptr he said he did that :) but its all good, i understand what your saying12:33
dwidmannBluesKaj: I don't really care about the screensaver (I set it to blank, and let it shut off after a while, I usually shut it off if I'm going to be away for long) I am however bothered that it isn't requiring password to return from screensaver ... that was a really really convenient way to lock the session without having to lock the session ...12:34
WillLuongoCan anyone help me remove a broken package from a .deb file?12:34
Riddellcongratulations emonkey12:34
adaptrWillLuongo: a deb file *is* a package12:34
BluesKajok, good idea actually , dwidmann...just me and wifey here so there's no need12:34
WillLuongoadaptr: thanks I didn't know that. <--- sarcasm12:35
adaptrWillLuongo: man dpkg, and be prepared to read.. a lot12:35
BluesKajbbiab , dinnertime12:35
adaptrdpkg is what really does the work12:35
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julioxdde donde eres elaine?12:35
chemicalvamphe said where are you from12:35
emonkeyRiddell, many thanks12:35
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jbruckman!nvidia12:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:40
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dwidmannBluesKaj: ah, wait, it WAS related to the kernel update, in a round-a-bout kind of way. Ever since the kernel update I've not been able to get the nvidia drivers back online (using vesa for now), which in turn means opengl is in fact broken, and apparentlyl I had the screensaver set to something I didn't think I had it set to, that used opengl, which seemedly made it cease to function correctly ... I guess if the screensaver can't successfully12:43
dwidmannrun the require password to return function can't function ...12:43
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eukaryoteAny Quanta users around?12:44
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dopehow can i tell if my comp will boot from a usb12:46
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Daisuke_Idodope: if bios has a 'boot from usb' option, that's a pretty good indicator. but other than that, i guess...  try and see12:47
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chemicalvampdoes anybody know the address of the page that has a webpage list of packages12:48
BluesKaj!easyubuntu12:49
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu12:49
BluesKajchemicalvamp, also : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way12:51
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BluesKajor sustitute edgy in the address12:51
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chemicalvampBluesKaj not looking for that, teres an ubuntu webpage that has a list.. by tpye / by name, listing dependancies12:51
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eukaryoteDoes anyone know why Quanta's documentation isn't in its two packages? It should come with tons of HTML< CSS & PHP stuff12:52
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Daisuke_Idois there a -doc package for it?12:53
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BluesKajsorry chemicalvamp , this is the one I meant to post : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu12:53
eukaryoteDaisuke_Ido: Not that I can see12:53
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ubuntuI have this problem!12:53
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dwidmannI think the package for the documentation might be kdewebdev-doc-html12:53
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Daisuke_Idoubuntu: don't ask to ask, just ask12:53
Daisuke_Idowe all have problems :P12:54
dwidmannubuntu: present and listening :-)12:54
eukaryotedwidmann: Never thought of that. I'll have a look12:54
Daisuke_Idojust...  not with linux.  for instance, mine are mostly mental :)12:54
Sannechemicalvamp: do you mean packages.ubuntu.com?12:54
chemicalvampBluesKaj nope that has nothing to do with what i want12:54
dwidmann Daisuke_Ido: yours too?12:55
ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:55
chemicalvampSanne bingo thanks12:55
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Daisuke_Idoof course.12:55
Sannechemicalvamp: you're welcome :)12:55
dwidmannubuntu: what type of partition is /dev/hda6?12:55
BluesKajok, chemicalvamp, perhaps you do the search in Google :)12:55
ubuntuis ext12:55
dwidmannassuming ext2, it would be something like "sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /media/hda6"12:56
dwidmannor you could add it to the fstab12:56
dwidmann(12:56
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dwidmannyou can say ext3 also, same deal, just fill in the hole12:56
dwidmannalso, do be sure that the mount point exists12:56
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ubuntuI am in this moment in a livecd12:57
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dwidmannubuntu: same deal12:57
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dwidmannthe live cd (at least from a user perspective) is more or less no different than running ubuntu itself :)12:58
ubuntuBecause I can't start kubuntu in graphic mode...12:58
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dwidmannOdd, hmm, what graphics card do you have?12:59
dopei have a pen drive with a bunch of preinstalled garbage for U3 on it. can i boot linux from it?12:59
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eukaryotedwidmann: kdewebdev-doc-html doesn't seem to have the stuff Quanta+ needs01:00
hans_How do I make Kubuntu connect to my wireless automatically on startup, right know I have to use wireless manager everytime01:00
dwidmanneukaryote: odd, because kdewebdev IS quanta01:00
ubuntuI have an nvidia, but I don't now what version... I tried to install drivers and it happening01:01
skarfacehans_: knetworkmanager01:01
eukaryotedwidmann: If you click the "Documentation" tab then follow a particular page it fails looking for files such as /usr/share/apps/quanta/doc/php/introduction.html01:01
ubuntuSorry if my English is bad, but I speak just a little...01:02
ubuntuI need help!!!01:03
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dwidmanneukaryote: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/quanta/index.html01:03
dwidmannhmm, that seems to be the index page anyhow01:03
dwidmannwhether there is more to be found I'm not sure ... still looking01:04
ubuntudwidmann_01:04
ubuntuI'm not a mexican!01:05
dwidmannubuntu: hmm,01:05
eukaryotedwidmann: Weird. My Q+ is looking somewhere else entirely. This must be where earlier releases stored this stuff, yet I'm running Q+ 3.501:05
dwidmanneukaryote: possibly, another possibility is that the documentation I just linked was entirely unrelated01:05
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dwidmannubuntu: did it work at first? and then fail to work after installing the nvidia drivers?01:06
ubuntuYes!!!01:06
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dwidmannfirst lets find out what graphics card you have, I need you to open up a terminal, and type "lspci | grep VGA"01:07
BluesKajok , have /home on a different partition , but I'm not sure it's loading at bootup ...what should I look for in fstab as an indicator ?01:07
ubuntuI reboot my system and it didn't work...01:07
dwidmannBluesKaj: I would look for /home in the mtab01:07
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BluesKajok dwidmann , thx01:08
ubuntudwidmann, Do you speak spanish?01:08
eukaryotedwidmann: Hmm. I guess I should join the mailing list and ask there. The #quanta IRC channel is empty; the FAQ and Wiki don't help much01:08
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dwidmannubuntu: I know a few random words, but that's about it01:08
eukaryotedwidmann: Thanks for the help01:09
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dwidmanneukaryote: perhaps the #kde channel then?01:09
eukaryotedwidmann: Yes, good idea. I'll see what turns up there01:09
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angasule!samba01:10
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:10
dwidmannubuntu: first lets find out what graphics card you have, I need you to open up a terminal, and type "lspci | grep VGA"01:10
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BluesKajok dwidmann, I found what looks like /home (hda3) ,but I also found this in the first line of /etc/apt/mtab : /dev/hda2 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0  Is this bad ?01:12
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dwidmannno ... well, maybe01:13
dwidmannI don't like the "0 0" on the end01:13
dwidmannit isn't like th at in the fstab is it?01:13
BluesKajok, lemme look01:13
dwidmannit should be "0 1" for "/", not "0 0"01:14
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BluesKajdwidmann, fstab  : ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       101:15
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dwidmannah, that should be fine then01:15
ubuntudwidmann: it says: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller> nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/model 64 Pro]  (rev 15)01:15
BluesKajok thx01:16
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dwidmannubuntu: hmm, now I've got to see which nvidia driver supports that card, there are 2 of them (actually 3 in feisty)01:16
ubuntuWhat do you think?01:16
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dwidmannubuntu: I think you need nvidia-glx-legacy01:17
ubuntuOk, what I can do?01:17
dwidmannand apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy agrees with me ... TNT2 is in the list01:18
ubuntuYou are my hands01:18
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dwidmannubuntu: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy;  sudo nvidia-xconfig01:18
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ubuntu<dwidmann remember that I'm in a livecd...01:20
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dwidmannah, drat01:20
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dwidmannWrite that stuff down01:20
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dwidmannBoot into ubuntu with the "recovery mode" option01:20
draco24est ce que il y as du monde qui parle francais01:20
dwidmannIt will give you a root shell in which you'll be able to run those commands, then reboot into the regular installed and see if it works01:20
dwidmann!fr | draco2401:21
ubotudraco24: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:21
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ubuntuYes, I'll do that, but I can to leave the channel, in few minuts I'l come back, thank you dwidmann!!01:21
draco24merci01:21
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jbruckmananyone know how to get nvidia drivers working properly on feisty?01:30
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stdinjbruckman: tried asking in #ubuntu+1 ?01:32
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jbruckmanstdin: no, i'll check over there.01:35
eamsdwidmann, thank you!01:35
rstancaanyone knows a good ftp client written in qt? something like gftp, found kasablanca and kftpgrabber in repository but i don`t like them01:35
stdinrstanca: konqueror?01:35
eamsdwidmann: You are an angel! I'm ubuntu01:35
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rstancastdin: i was looking for something similar to gftp01:36
eamsNow I'm in my HD!!!01:36
stdin!ftp01:36
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd01:36
stdinhmm01:36
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stdinrstanca: try asking in #kde01:37
eamsdwidmann, thank you01:37
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rstancastdin: krusader might do it, even if it`s more than a ftp client01:42
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Tm_TKonqueror <301:42
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Tm_TKonqueror with splitview and wonderful kiosystem <301:43
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sticksabuserhey does anyone know of a package for producing piecharts similar to gnuplot?01:46
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adaptrerm.. gnuplot01:46
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gan|y|medhi01:46
flaccid!kftpgrabber01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kftpgrabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
flaccid!info kftpgrabber01:47
ubotukftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB01:47
flaccidhmm still in beta01:47
gan|y|medmy fglrx.ko keeps getting deleted every time i restart. can anybody tell me what causes this?01:47
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sticksabuseradaptr: see the issue is gnuplot doesn't do piecharts01:47
adaptrso the "piecharts similar to gnuplot" thing was just a ruse, then ?01:48
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sticksabuseradaptr: not sure what a ruse is... but here's what I need: a package that I can write a script for to produce a nicely formatted piechart in eps and/or pdf formats...01:49
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gan|y|medhi01:50
Ace2016Hi all01:50
Ace2016how do i mount a fat32 partition so that it is writable?01:50
gan|y|medwhy does fglrx.ko get deleted every time the system is restarted???01:50
Ace2016root can write to it but i cannot01:50
gan|y|medumask=001:51
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Ace2016i mean its a fat32 partition, how can it have permissions on it?01:51
Ace2016gan|y|med: in fstab?01:51
gan|y|medthat's the option i think for writing to it01:51
gan|y|medfor example01:51
adaptrsticksabuser: postscript can do scripting... and there are several direct interfaces to these kinds of vector formats01:51
gan|y|medtry mount --help01:51
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Ace2016gan|y|med: thanks that worked perfectly01:52
sticksabuserI was trying piecharts http://www.usf.uni-osnabrueck.de/~breiter/tools/piechart/piecharts.en.html... but for some reason it wouldn't compile....01:52
gan|y|mednp01:52
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Hatlhi!01:53
Hatlwill kubuntu be relaased on thursday with ubuntu?01:53
Tm_Tsure01:54
gan|y|medthe question is, will anybody go to one of the release parties, hehe01:54
Hatlthats the first time i try ubuntu, im looking forward to01:54
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gan|y|medfeisty is great, quite reasonably spoken01:55
Tm_Tgan|y|med: sure, I'm organising one of them01:55
gan|y|medwhere?01:56
gan|y|medif i may ask01:56
Tm_TFinland :)01:56
gan|y|medwell, kind of far away from me01:57
Tm_Theh01:57
Ace2016Hi all01:57
Ace2016does linux need an outbound firewall??? and do any exist??? just wondering about root kits and stuff01:57
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Tm_Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseParties01:58
gan|y|medreally, if is01:58
gan|y|medt01:58
gan|y|medtrying to get into the london one, though01:58
Tm_T!firewall | Ace201601:58
ubotuAce2016: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:58
BluesKajTm_T, it's abit far for me now ...but i was born in Kaavi, Finland... but that was 63 yrs ago :)01:58
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Tm_TBluesKaj: hmm, we should have long discussion some day ;)01:59
MegaVolthi, got a question about knetworkmanager: after a fresh apt-get install (after purging the old files) the knetworkmanager icon is there but clicking on it it says "knetworkmanager is nt running" - i can set manual network configuration but i dont get any wlan stuff displayed01:59
Tm_TAce2016: I recommend Firestarter01:59
BluesKajmy finnish is non existent now :(01:59
Ace2016Tm_T: i know that stuff, but i want to know if there is anything that can stop all apps apart from selected ones accessing the net01:59
MegaVolthow to change that ?01:59
Ace2016Tm_T: used firestarter, but i got a router so i don't think i need it02:00
Tm_TAce2016: hmm, never seen much point in that02:00
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Tm_TBluesKaj: we can use english :)02:00
BluesKajhehe Tm_T :)02:00
Tm_TBluesKaj: I'm just interested about history and lives and stuff :)02:01
BluesKajcool02:01
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chemicalvampi need to find a fun game, anybody got any ideas?02:07
felzixgenre02:08
felzix?02:08
chemicalvampany, just fun/addictive02:08
felzixN Game is pretty fun02:08
felzixwant a link?02:08
chemicalvampsure02:08
felzixwhich OS do you sue?02:09
felzixuse*02:09
chemicalvampfeisty amd6402:09
felzixhttp://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n_v1linux.tar.gz02:09
Tm_Tfelzix: supertux!02:09
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chemicalvampfelzix why is that link opening in ark?02:10
korrxfelzix: armagetron02:11
Tm_Tbecause it's packed02:11
felzixit should be a download02:11
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felzixhttp://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html02:11
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korrxfelzix: wormux02:12
felzixkorrx: wormux is awesome :)02:12
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felzixI've never tried armagetron02:12
felzixand supertux is too much like mario, but is not quite there, so it feels weird02:12
felzixSingularity is pretty fun, until it's beaten02:13
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Daisuke_Idowesnoth02:14
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korrxfelziz: neverball02:15
felzixkorrx: I don't seem to be allowed to pm because of spam problems, but: I love mario.  Especially #3.02:15
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HaSHwow this CANNOT be good : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/51102:18
korrxHaSH: root@KernelHack:~# locate *mandriva-linux* ??? aren't you on a buntu box ?02:19
HaSHsudo su -02:20
HaSHi had a  few things to do in root. and was easier to su - to it. apposed to sudo each command02:20
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sputnik`why not sudo bash ?02:20
Shootfastor sudo -s02:21
HaSHeither way.02:21
Daisuke_Idosame end result either way02:21
Shootfast:P02:21
HaSHbut still that error looks bad02:21
sputnik`;P02:21
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Bebemycat2To upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 to 7.04 do I have to download an burn the .iso all over again, or is there a simpler method?02:25
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ralahi everyone. need help. how do I reconfigure my display resolutions02:26
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ralaanyone?02:29
jbruckmani've been trying to get help in ubuntu+1 for a while now, and i've been completely ignored... The nvidia glx driver, when installed, breaks the monitor settings. I can no longer adjust any of these settings, most important of which is the resolution setting.02:29
ShootfastBebemycat2: adept will tell you when a new release is available, but its almost the same as downloading a new iso02:30
Bebemycat2Shootfast: Thank you02:30
ShootfastBebemycat2: I find it best to get the new iso anyways and just store your home settings in a new partition02:30
Bebemycat2I was thinking I would have to do that02:31
ShootfastBebemycat2: that way you have the latest install disk if it all goes to hell02:31
Bebemycat2That is true. Thanks for the advice02:31
Bebemycat2:)02:31
Shootfast:)02:32
firephotojbruckman: i think you would have to use the nvidia-settings app to adjust those from the gui.02:32
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soulriderhows everyone doing ?02:32
soulriderjbruckman: can you try and reconifgure xorg ?02:32
Shootfastjbruckman: the nvidia drivers are very unstable, to reset your resolution run nvidia-xconfig02:32
jbruckmansoulrider: i tried the reconfiguring thing, and despite having the modes there, and subsequently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf i couldn't get that resolution02:33
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jbruckmanShootfast: nvidia-xconfig? I'll give it a shot. thanks02:33
Shootfastjbruckman: That will change you xorg.conf to what the nvidia driver needs02:34
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jbruckmanShootfast: okay. I'll give it a try. hopefully it'll fix it.02:34
jbruckmanShootfast: thanks02:34
Shootfastjbruckman: if you run beryl you will have to add some other things to that command though02:34
jbruckmanShootfast: screw beryl.02:34
jbruckmanShootfast: lol02:34
jbruckmanShootfast: unstable garbage, that's what that is... :|02:34
Shootfastjbruckman: :(02:34
Shootfastjbruckman: not for me :P02:34
Shootfastthe only unstable thing is the nvidia drivers02:35
jbruckmanShootfast: *bows to you* i know like 5 people that had their system screwed over by beryl.02:35
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jbruckmanhmmm02:35
jbruckmani dunno. i wouldn't trust it.02:35
jbruckmananyway, thanks again m8. i'll give this a shot.02:35
Shootfastdid you install your drivers from the repo or from nvidia?02:35
reydelsillonHi guys. Anyone that can help me getting amule to reconize edk links froma webpage?02:35
Shootfastand if from the repo did you get nvidia-glx or nvida-glx-new?02:36
Daisuke_Ido"had their system screwed over"?02:36
Daisuke_Idopuh-LEASE.  try "weren't competent enough to follow directions"02:36
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jbruckmanDaisuke_Ido: please. let's not attack anyone personally. I followed the directions exactly when i tried to do it about 3 months ago, and X wouldn't start.02:36
jbruckmani had to rollback02:37
Shootfastthings are better now after the 1.002:37
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jbruckmanperhaps i'll look again then... once i get nvidia working.02:37
jbruckmanrestarting x.02:37
Shootfastok, if you need help theres one more command to enter first to get nvidia working with beryl though02:37
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Shootfastreydelsillon: what browser?02:38
reydelsillonfirefox02:38
Shootfastreydelsillon: did you set the default applications?02:38
Shootfast(inside firefox)02:39
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reydelsillonlet me check02:39
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reydelsillonshootfast: you mean edit-> pref-> content ?02:43
Shootfastsomewhere like that02:44
Shootfasttype in the extension used on the edk links and set to open in amule02:45
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HaSHhow else can isearch for files besides updatedb && locate file ?...is there a way that is just as good?02:47
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Daisuke_IdoHaSH: there's also whereis02:49
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MajorApusCan someone help me?  I just installed kubuntu, I have tried 7.04 live cd, 6.10 live cd, and 6.10 alt installer.  All 3 end up witht he same thing, x starts, and I am left with a desktop looking screen, a solid blue bakcround and a single cursor, the cursor can move but that is all that happens, also, my keyboards numlock key is unresponsive02:49
korrxslocate02:49
Daisuke_Idoand find02:49
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reydelsillonhow do i set amule open? to link like this? ed2k://|file|Lost.S03E16.One.Of.Us.HR.HDTV.XviD-CTU.[sharethefiles.com] .avi|734348238|A8A44DB7ED8E9DEB31EAE1119E3F3124|h=HNUVAGXJINHHJRLO344SXA5AWD65R7GB|/02:49
reydelsillonjust an example ofcourse.02:49
reydelsillon^02:49
Daisuke_Idoreydelsillon: you use torrents for that :P02:49
reydelsillonmaybe i should02:50
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MajorApusIf I start kubuntu in recovery mode from the grub boot loader I get a root command prompt, If I type startx I get the same blank desktop screen with a cursor02:50
Daisuke_Idoofftopic a bit, but they tend to be faster and more reliable02:50
reydelsillonbut just now i want thisamule to hande edk or i go crazy.02:50
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HaSHDaisuke_Ido, allright ill checkt it out.02:51
korrxMajorApus : bad idea X under root account02:51
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:51
Daisuke_IdoIF you absolutely have to02:51
MajorApushow would I know if I absolutely have to02:51
reydelsillonshootfast: can you tell me how i open amule for edk? i cant see any option about taht in the amuleprogrm.02:52
Daisuke_Idoif you can do what you need to do to recover from the command line (and everything can be done via the command line), you don't absolutely have to02:52
HaSHhmm whereis doesnt work the same. see i have this file i was downloading with wget. my computer froze and i had to reboot. i think tried to resume the file with wget but it didnt resume and now its downloading into a a unknown place and id like to find it02:53
Daisuke_Idoreydelsillon: i'm looking for an option, but nada so far02:53
MajorApusdid you read my first message?02:53
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Daisuke_Idoyep02:54
MajorApusI guess I would need to know what to do from the command line,  I use linux more than most people, but usually with a gui and fixing a problem is not something I would know how to do, its a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10, it gets no errors durring boots, and when it starts I dont get a log in screen, just a blank desktop02:54
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LeeJunFanwoohoo! my mailserver made it :) up 365 days, 21:1202:54
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Daisuke_Idoreydelsillon: try this link: http://blog.ryaneby.com/archives/firefox-protocol-handlers/02:55
Gh0st75hi folks02:55
LeeJunFanpeople can say what they want about ubuntu not being a good distro for servers, but that uptime speaks for itself :) Breezy needs updated though :)02:55
reydelsillonthanks02:56
soulrider_LeeJunFan: breezy is dead02:56
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: not really sure02:56
Gh0st75anyone know how i can get wireless working on my c2d intel mcbook, with feisty installed? i read that i need ndiswrapper installed but i tried some commands i found and the files can't be found02:56
MajorApuswhould it be a hardware issue?  another thing, ctrl alt f1 or ctrl shift f1, i've tried both I forget which does it, doesn't give me a new console window02:56
HaSHok this file seems to not exist on my system. how can i find it. im looking at it in konqueror but slocate and locate says it doesnt. i did use updatedb before i used the locate02:57
LeeJunFansoulrider_: yeah, I know, that's why I need to get it updated now.02:57
reydelsillonI have no experience with torrent. does hat program funcion better on linux than amule?02:57
Daisuke_Idoctrl-alt-f1 should drop you to a tty02:57
korrxctrl alt f1 - f602:57
Daisuke_Idoreydelsillon: oh lord yes.02:57
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MajorApuswell it doesn't do anything02:57
soulrider_LeeJunFan: right now im not using ubuntu, but ill check out feisty02:57
soulrider_i did install kubuntu on my dads PC though02:57
reydelsilloncan you direct me to any site as http://sharethefiles.com/forum/index.php but for torrents?02:57
Daisuke_Idoreydelsillon: PM02:58
soulrider_reydelsillon: torrents are better than emule02:58
soulrider_and dont come looking for illegal stuff here :P02:58
LeeJunFansoulrider_: well, this being a server it's not got a GUI, so ubuntu/kubuntu doesn't matter. no difference.02:58
reydelsillonpm=?02:58
soulrider_yeah LeeJunFan02:58
MajorApusso what should I do, fresh install on high end hardware, doesn't work02:59
Daisuke_Idoprivate message02:59
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reydelsillonok im gonna try this torrent thing. :) what is the best application fo kubuntu?02:59
soulrider_MajorApus: care to elaborate ? :P02:59
soulrider_reydelsillon: kubuntu brings ktorrent, but i dont like it02:59
Daisuke_Ido!ktorrent02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
soulrider_actually, the only windows app i use in utorrent, a torrent client :P02:59
HaSHsee look at this. locate cant find it yet its there. i need to find this other 3.7 GIG part of a file. : root@KernelHack:~# locate mandriva-* | grep -i spring02:59
HaSHroot@KernelHack:~# ls /Storage2/ | grep -i spring02:59
HaSHmandriva-linux-2007-spring-free-dvd-i586.iso02:59
Gh0st75so any ideas how i can get ndiswrapper installed if there's no internet conx to download ndiswrapper-utils-1.802:59
soulrider_deluge is good, but not good enough yet02:59
MajorApusI installed kubuntu 6.10 with alternate install disk, that was after 7.04 and 6.10 live cd failed (in the same way that the installed version now fails)  when it boots It gets to a blank gui desktop with just a cursor03:00
soulrider_Gh0st75: download from another PC and take it there ?03:00
Daisuke_Idoktorrent is actually pretty decent, latest version is close to utorrent03:00
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Daisuke_Idothere's also azureus03:00
soulrider_Daisuke_Ido: its the interface i dont like much03:00
soulrider_azureus us a hog03:00
MajorApusi get better results with utorrent03:00
Daisuke_Idosoulrider_: no argument there03:00
Gh0st75ok, will try downloading it and putting it on a fat32 drive for linux access03:01
MajorApusmy lan packet shapes pretty hard core03:01
Daisuke_Idoi've had no problems with ktorrent right now, especially with non-default ports03:01
MajorApusI do know my onboard lan chipset isn't supported "out of the box"03:01
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: this screams hardware error03:02
MajorApushardware support? or error?03:02
Daisuke_Idonothing on two live cds, and the same problem with an install from the alt cd03:02
Daisuke_Idosupprt03:02
Daisuke_Idovideo card?03:02
MajorApus7800gt03:02
Daisuke_Idothat shouldn't be a problem03:02
Daisuke_Idoum...  i doubt it would choke like that with the onboard lan03:03
Daisuke_Idoany other unconventional hardware?03:03
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MajorApus CHAINTECH AV-710 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card03:04
MajorApusenvy chipset soundcard?03:04
Daisuke_Idodon't know, but at worst, you wouldn't have sound03:04
MajorApusonbaord audio is also not supported by any os "out of the box"03:04
Daisuke_Idoprobably not that03:04
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Daisuke_Idois in kubuntu (well, it's a realtek chipset)03:04
Daisuke_Idonot spectacular by any means03:05
Daisuke_Idobut it works, and works well03:05
MajorApusthis is the mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681312801503:05
Daisuke_Idohmm03:05
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MajorApuswhile I am here, how do you use ls to show only a screen worth of information and then have you hit a button to page down03:08
Kyralls | less03:08
Daisuke_Idols | yeah what he said03:08
Daisuke_Idoyou're quick.03:08
MajorApusoh right I forgot, because less is more03:08
Kyral(In general, <any command> | less)03:08
KyralYou have no idea....03:08
Kyralless replaced more ;P03:08
MajorApusI learned that a few years ago in my freshmen aero class03:08
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Red_Tearhi guys03:09
MajorApuswhat should happen when it boots?  I see the "X" then a blue backround, then a cursor, next should be login prompt?03:09
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Gh0st75ok, i have ndiswrapper downloaded, anyone know the syntax to get that installed in feisty as to allow my macbook wireless access?03:09
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HaSHis there any reason that updatedb wouldnt update? i run it yet i cant find files im looking at...03:10
HaSHits like its not working.03:10
Gh0st75just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 ?03:10
LeeJunFanHaSH: it may be setup to not crawl certain dirs.03:10
LeeJunFanHaSH: and if user nobody (which it runs as) can't see them they won't be included.03:11
MajorApusshouldn't a fresh instal simply work?  I thought that was the whole idea03:11
HaSHLeeJunFan, hmm its always just worked i use updatedb && locat03:11
N0Lif3|lappyI'm worried, kdesysguard is telling me I only have 187MB of ram. before, I had 224MB of ram. what's going on?03:11
N0Lif3|lappyHostname: n30lif3 - OS: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic/i686 - CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU         1333MHz (1333.539 MHz) - Processes: 92 - Uptime: 4h 3m - Load Average: 0.22 - Memory Usage: 98.72MB/186.48MB (52.94%) - Disk Usage: 3.90GB/27.28GB (14.30%)03:12
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HaSHeh well i dont get this. i now how 2 3.7 gig file floating around03:12
HaSHand i *cant* find them03:12
MajorApusis there another room that might be able to help me?03:13
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Daisuke_IdoHaSH: tried find?03:14
MystikkMajorApus. i have had that a lot03:14
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MajorApusthe no login?03:14
Mystikkmy problem has been video drivers not picking something suitable03:14
HaSHDaisuke_Ido, i need one that will search every folder on the system as i dont know where they are03:14
fergerhow do i open more repositories?03:14
Mystikkya, totally03:14
Mystikki am running an older nvidia with a 17" widescreen LCD03:15
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MajorApusbut the cursor is responsive and the screen has no graphical errors03:15
MajorApus7800 gt 1280x102403:15
Mystikkyes, but its in text mode ?03:15
Mystikknot showing a logn screen?03:15
MajorApustext mode?03:15
MajorApusblue backround, with a cursor03:15
Mystikkya, thats what i meant03:16
MajorApusnothing else on the screen03:16
Mystikkit boots if you hit esc and select ... whatever choice #2 is .. the recovery mode thingy?03:16
MajorApusyes to a root prompt03:16
Mystikkok so likely a video issue of some sort03:16
chemicalvamphow do you run crossfire?03:16
MajorApusthat would make sense, but I'm using a common card at a common resolution03:17
Mystikkumm .. i went thru all sorts of hell, i had to fix my xorg.conf everytime03:17
Mystikkumm, thinking03:17
Mystikkhang on a sec, i am also working :/03:17
HaSHi even tried ls -R / | grep -i string03:18
HaSHnothing.03:18
Red_TearOk Im searching for a backup programm... but it should be able to do the things i will no describe:03:18
Mystikkwhat i did for the short term was go to the nv driver rather than the nvidia driver03:18
Mystikkin xorg.conf03:18
Mystikkits working now, in feisty with a very new nvidia driver03:18
MajorApusI barely know what xorg.conf is03:19
Mystikkow, ok03:19
Mystikki am probably not your best bet to ask03:19
MajorApusand it might not be worth the effort, I was gonna switch from xp to kubuntu, but I havn't even gotten to the log in screen of a live cd03:19
Mystikkbut this happens to me in regular ubuntu as well as kubuntu03:19
Mystikkso maybe there is a better person in #ubuntu03:19
ShootfastMajorApus: whats the problem03:19
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Red_Tearcopy a full disc image from one HDD to another, but strongly compromized. If i ever need it I want just have to use the same programm or sthg to make it on a new HDD and be able to boot from it03:20
MajorApus6.10 7.04 live cd and alternate 6.10 all do the same thing03:20
ledementeHi all. Anyone know of a KDE alternative to Audacity?03:20
MajorApuswhen x starts I get a blue desktop backround, a mouse cursor, and thats it, it stops there03:20
ledementeI'm looking for mostly the same features... without the crashing.03:20
ledementeOr freezing. xd03:20
ShootfastMajorApus: can you click ctrl-alt-f1 and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:21
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MajorApusledemente: http://osswin.sourceforge.net/#audioeditingtools03:21
MajorApusI'll try, this is my only machine so brb03:21
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chemicalvampi installed the game "crossfire-client" but i cant seem to find out how to launch it03:22
ledementeHrm... none of those are KDE.03:23
Red_Tearis it fair? those kiddys ever have the newest hardware and anything and we geeks dont have any money and running a this old machine, with some very unusual fixes we made even at the hardware? ;)03:23
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Mystikkthis old geek has medium old stuff :P03:24
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Mystikkbtw, hi, i am Myst, I am an old geekgrrl03:24
Leonhello all03:24
Daisuke_Idoi wouldn't say i have an *old* system03:24
Shootfastthis young geek has new flashy stuff03:24
Rictoohow do I install beryl on kubuntu? =p03:24
Daisuke_Idobut certainly not top of the line03:24
Rictoo~beryl03:24
ShootfastRictoo: what version03:24
Rictoo..03:24
RictooKubuntu 6.1003:24
Daisuke_IdoRictoo: two questions.  what version, and what video card?03:24
RictooRadeon 920003:24
Leoni'm trying to install Kubuntu on my new laptop but it errors ne1 know why?03:24
Daisuke_Idohttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL03:24
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Gh0st75does anyone know how i can get wireless working in feisty on my c2d macbook? i have ndiswrapper installed using my osx partition03:25
RictooThanks, Daisuke_Ido03:25
ShootfastRictoo: what graphics card03:25
RictooI said, Radeon 920003:25
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Gh0st75er downloaded i mean, not installed03:25
Daisuke_IdoLeon: you're gonna have to come a little more specific than that03:25
Shootfastgo to Daisuke_Ido's link, he was faster :P03:25
Rictoo=p03:25
LeonDaisuke_Ido: it sector errors like a dozen times then just stops i let it set for about 10 min though.03:26
RictooWTF03:26
RictooIT SAYS I DON'T HAVE DIRECT RENDERING03:26
Daisuke_Idoo_O03:26
RictooBut I got the ATI official drivers!!03:26
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Daisuke_Idoouch03:26
RictooI used to have the other drivers, and I DID have direct rendering03:26
Daisuke_Idoto both of you03:26
Rictoobut now that I get the official ones, I DONT!???03:26
Daisuke_Idofglrx?03:26
RictooI thikn so03:27
Daisuke_Idoor whatever the weird acronym is03:27
RictooTHink*03:27
Leon???03:27
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[pyro] !nvidia03:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:27
Daisuke_IdoLeon: sector errors how?  like...  when paritioning?03:27
RictooI just don't see why the official drivers aren't good...03:27
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Red_Tearu know like my video card fan dont work, and i made a nomore needed case fan under it and with a empty toilet paper roll, a empty cappuchino package and much sticky tape it works to cool it down nice^^03:27
RictooOMFG03:27
RictooITS NALIOTH03:27
Rictoohi03:27
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Daisuke_Idobecause if that's the case, that sounds like your hard drive is the spawn of the devil03:28
ShootfastRictoo: Coz ATI hate their customers03:28
Rictoo:(03:28
Leon no when trying to start the installer03:28
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Daisuke_Idoreboot and use the "check cd for errors" option03:28
Leon ...03:28
Leon ok03:29
Leon brb03:29
Daisuke_IdoShootfast: that they do03:29
Daisuke_Idonvidia :D03:29
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Gh0st75no ideas on how to use ndiswrapper for wireless?03:29
freezthe dapper is not detecting my network adapater here is the lspci output http://pastebin.ca/445700 anyone can help fixing this real annoying problem please ?03:29
Mystikklike beryl runs just FINE on my 64MB ancient nvidia that cost me $2003:30
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Mystikkbut i cant get it runnin on my radeon 9600 or something like that under fedeora03:30
Daisuke_Idohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/edgy03:30
Mystikkthats the other puter03:30
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Mystikkso, my cheapass nvidia is so much better just because its supported03:31
Gh0st75would the steps be the same for feisty as edgy?03:31
Daisuke_Idoin theory03:31
Gh0st75k, will have a look, thanks03:31
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Daisuke_Idohttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/18/how-to-configure-wireless-on-a-macbook-using-ndiswrapper/03:32
Daisuke_IdoMystikk: i originally built this as a windows pc for midrange gaming03:33
Daisuke_Idoand now i find it's actually a little overpowered03:33
Mystikkits great eh?03:33
Mystikkthis is a P4 1.8, 1 GB ram03:33
Daisuke_Idoit would be dragging the bottom of the barrel if i were still using windows, but it's nice and zippy here03:33
Mystikksnappy it is03:33
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Mystikkoh tell me about that03:33
Daisuke_Idogranted, i'm a little ahead on the processor03:33
Daisuke_Idoan x2 3800+03:33
Red_Tearreality is so dammed ^^03:33
Daisuke_Idosocket 93903:33
Mystikkand with Vista ... the unmentionable03:34
Mystikkow, better than my big machine03:34
Red_Tearno shops open if u need them ;)03:34
Mystikkmy FC6 box03:34
frank227aHow large should a swap partition be?03:34
MystikkAMD 3000+03:34
Daisuke_Idofrank227a: 1.5 - 2x your physical ram03:34
Mystikkon a 754 board03:34
Mystikk1 GB RAM again, and that Radeon that keeps puking on me03:34
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Mystikkand my notebook is running edgy03:35
MajorApusokay so I did the dpkg reconfigure, it asked me a lot of questions that it already knew all the answers too03:35
frank227aWhat command will give me the exact size of the harddrive?03:35
Daisuke_IdoMystikk: i got this just after the big price drop last year, new mobo, pci-e 7600, and processor cost me $30003:35
Mystikkwow, lucky you03:35
Shootfastfrank227a: as large as neccesary03:35
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MajorApusthen when I boot I get a command prompt login screen, but I never even got to the point of setting up a user03:35
Daisuke_Idofrank227a: df03:35
Shootfastfrank227a: usually around the size of your ram03:35
Mystikknotebook is a p4m 2.4 w/ 768 MB Ram, and the radeon IGP wont do beryl, but its very solid machine03:36
Daisuke_Idowait, that will only do mounted partitions03:36
MajorApusis there a default username and password?03:36
frank227aI'm making a dual boot system.  What is the average amount of space needed for ubuntu 20 -30 gigs?03:36
Rictoohow would I go about uninstall fglrx?03:37
Rictoohow would I go about uninstalling fglrx?03:37
Daisuke_Idofrank227a: i would say 20 would be more than enough, if you're using a vfat partition to store non-os-specific stuff (video, music, whatever)03:37
Daisuke_IdoRictoo: absolutely no clue.  Mystikk?  any idea?  you're the ati person at the moment03:37
frank227aDaisuke_Ido: vfat?  Is that a mountable parition?03:38
frank227aDaisuke_Ido: That would be something that I could add in the future correct?03:38
Daisuke_Idofrank227a: fat32, same thing, and you can read/write to it just as well in linux as in windows03:38
Daisuke_Idoyeah03:38
frank227aDaisuke_Ido: Ok.  Thank you.03:38
Daisuke_Idosay, if you add another hard drive03:38
Rictoohow would I go about uninstalling fglrx?03:38
Rictoo-.-'03:38
Rictooanyone? =/03:38
MajorApusdefault username and pasword anyone?  from oem alternate installer03:39
Daisuke_Idoubuntu. no password03:39
Rictoook03:39
RictooDaisuke_Ido, a question03:39
Rictoolet's say I uninstall fglrx03:39
Daisuke_Idommhmm?03:39
Rictoowill it use another backup driver?03:39
Daisuke_Idoit should drop to the vesa driver03:39
Rictooor whenever I reboot will I get stuck without loading xserver :)03:39
Rictoook03:39
Rictoogood <303:39
Daisuke_Idovesa's the fallback driver for about everything03:40
frank227aAnyone familiar with steps I may have to take if I install windows xp on another partition of the drive in a few days?03:40
Rictoofrank227a03:40
Daisuke_Idoooh03:40
frank227aDo I have to rerun grub or something like that?03:40
Daisuke_Idoinstall windows first.03:40
Rictooyeah03:40
Rictoothat's all you have to di03:40
RictooI did it03:40
frank227aDaisuke_Ido: I do not have the windows CD now.03:40
Daisuke_Idoit does NOT like being on anything but the first partition of the first drive03:40
Daisuke_Idoyou'd have to install windows then reinstall kubuntu afaik03:41
frank227aDaisuke_Ido: Ok.  Can I install linux to the second partition and keep the first on free for windows?03:41
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Daisuke_Idoi...  don't know.03:41
frank227aAnyone else have a suggestion on that?03:41
Mystikknot a firm one03:42
frank227aOk.  Let me do some googling before I install this.03:42
Daisuke_Idoonce you install windows on that first partition, it's going to take over the bootloader, so you'd have to use the live cd to reinstall grub, if that works, and i'm not saying it does, because i've never tried it03:42
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MajorApusso that default password didn't work03:42
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frank227aDaisuke_Ido: Ok.  That is what I was thinking.  Using the livecd to reset grub.03:43
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: is this an installed or live session?03:43
MajorApusinstalled03:43
gugu^please help to install this http://outkastsolutions.co.za/outkast/03:43
Daisuke_Idothen no, there's no default password03:43
MajorApusso then how do I login?03:43
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: you use the username and password you created during installation03:44
MajorApusIt never asked for a username and password03:44
Daisuke_Idowhen installing the os, it never asked you to create a user03:45
frank227aBBL03:45
Daisuke_Idothat...  could be part of the problem03:45
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MajorApusat what point would it have?03:45
MajorApusI did OEM instal03:45
Daisuke_IdoOEM?03:45
Daisuke_Ido...why?03:45
MajorApusit sounded better than text install03:45
MajorApusI would have just used the live cd  but it does the same thing03:46
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Daisuke_Idotry the text install03:47
Daisuke_Idoit's still a series of menus, just in text mode, rather than purty graphics03:47
Daisuke_Idoi'm still calling hardware problem though03:47
MajorApus7800 gt?03:47
MajorApusif thats a problem then this is a joke03:47
Daisuke_Idonot necessarily video03:47
Daisuke_Idobut something is NOT right03:48
Daisuke_Idodo you have onboard video?03:48
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MajorApusno03:48
MajorApusI actually sucesfully installed osx86 on this03:48
MajorApushardware is pretty common03:48
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Daisuke_Idosomething somewhere is choking and i have no idea why03:49
fergeri get audio but no video on some .mpg videos03:49
Daisuke_Idoferger: check codecs03:49
MrChipsOk, problem: KDM no longer allows me to log in, it bounces me back.  So I went to try startx instead, it boots up grey xwindows but only the mouse, keyboard dies completely.03:49
MajorApuswouldn't I get some sort of error during boot?03:49
frank227aAny idea how to compress an entire directory and its sub directories?03:49
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MrChipsI have tried checking the KDM/X logs and all I find is a reference to a redundant misc fonts (which I removed to no avail) and some directories not mentioned in xorg.conf03:50
MajorApusinteresting, mrchips is having the same problem03:50
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: possible, if you can check /var/log/boot03:51
MajorApushow often would the live cd not work?03:51
Daisuke_Idonot often03:51
Daisuke_Idoit's the primary installation method, and fails pretty rarely03:51
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MajorApusI have 7.04 and 6.10, both checked with the self check, and both fail in the same way03:51
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[pyro] hmm just upgraded to feisty03:52
[pyro] it bitched about nvidia because i had used envy to install the nvidia drivers. So i removed envy / drivers and re-ran the upgrade script and everything went ok.03:52
[pyro] just had to do nvidia by hand to get x working again03:52
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MajorApuswhat would be the standard thing to do once the live cd fails to fully boot03:53
Daisuke_IdoMajorApus: tried booting the livecd in vga mode?03:53
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MajorApusI'll try that, what version would you recomend, 7.04 or 6.1003:53
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Daisuke_Idomight as well go 7.0403:54
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MajorApuswhile I do this, something to think about, mrchips is having the same symptom, when x starts he gets a cursor and keyboard dies03:54
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frank227aAnyone know the proper command to archive a directory?  I tried tar -c evolution ~/.evolution04:00
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frank227aIt spits stuff all over the terminal screen.04:00
Kubuntu-noobdoes anyone know if the root password is LOL04:00
Kubuntu-noob* know what it is I mean04:00
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TehWuzylnoob: by default, I believe it's not set. You use sudo [something]  to set it.04:01
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Red_TearKubuntu-noob: which OS was u using before?04:01
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Red_Tearurgs04:01
Kubuntu-noobJust installed an old version on my thinkpad 5.0404:01
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TehWuzylpasswd04:01
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BloodyTuxITS FINISHED!!!04:01
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TehWuzylso sudo passwd ... do a "man passwd" to get the syntax.04:02
[pyro] hmm04:02
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Daisuke_Idothere IS no root password in ubuntu for a reason.04:02
BloodyTuxi'm in 7.04 and its not crashing :)04:02
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RictooWhat's the recommended driver for a Radeon 9200?04:02
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: congrats04:02
[pyro] the edgy -> feisty upgrade dies if you are using Envy to config nvidia / ati drivers.04:02
Kubuntu-noobok thanks04:02
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: you don't need root password, use your own password instead04:02
BloodyTux:D04:02
frank227aAnyone familiar with tar?04:02
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frank227aI tried tar -cf evolution.tar ~/.evolution04:03
BloodyTuxi feel special :)04:03
Daisuke_Idoit's that sticky stuff that's out in california, right?04:03
[pyro] removing the drivers and envy fix's it, and installing them by hand gets x working again :)04:03
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Tm_TBloodyTux: why?04:03
frank227aDoesn't work to tar the directory.04:03
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Kubuntu-noobso the user I created when I installed is root?04:03
TehWuzylfrank227a: you may have the right command, but need to redirect it to an output file.04:03
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Tm_TKubuntu-noob: no but does have supercowpowers with sudo04:03
BloodyTuxTm_T: i got 7.04 beta to work finally04:03
Daisuke_IdoKubuntu-noob: no, but it has superuser privileges04:03
Tm_TBloodyTux: and?04:03
RictooWhat's the recommended driver for a Radeon 9200?04:03
Daisuke_Idoman he's quick.04:03
TehWuzyladd "> outputfile" to the command which spits junk all over the screen.04:03
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BloodyTuxTm_T: that's it...04:03
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BloodyTux:)04:03
Tm_TDaisuke_Ido: I'm old and slow, and old, and usually angry04:04
Daisuke_Idoi've noticed04:04
Tm_TBloodyTux: nah, been using Feisty for ages without problems04:04
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Daisuke_Idobut you type fast04:04
Daisuke_Idoand that's what matters.04:04
BloodyTuxcool. i still feel special :)04:04
Daisuke_Idoeither that or i've got a lag problem on my end04:04
MystikkFeisty has been berry good to me so far!04:04
Daisuke_Idoi finally decided to hold out on feisty04:04
Mystikkam most impressed,this gets easier and easier every time i install04:05
BloodyTuxi like it. i don't see much of a difference though04:05
Tm_TBloodyTux: upgrade or clean install?04:05
Mystikkabout 50x easier than a winstal, which i do at least5 times a week04:05
Daisuke_Idooh god yes04:06
Daisuke_Idoi despise windows installation :\04:06
BloodyTuxupgrade04:06
Daisuke_Idohasn't changed in a decage04:06
Daisuke_Idodecade, even04:06
TehWuzylNo hunting for drivers on Ubuntu. *nods*04:06
Mystikkhavent tried an upgrade yet04:06
thefirstdudehow to setup nvidia04:06
Tm_TBloodyTux: ok then you don't have much new goodies ;)04:06
_Ace2016_just me or is feisty faster than edgy?04:06
Tm_T!nvidia | thefirstdude04:06
BloodyTux:(04:06
ubotuthefirstdude: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:06
Mystikkit boots more quickly04:06
Tm_TAce2016: it is04:06
BloodyTuxwhats newfor upgrade?04:06
Mystikka LOT more quickly04:06
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BloodyTuxhow do i add my self to root group? i'm tired of sudo...04:07
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Daisuke_Idonow i need to figure out why dvdshrink will no longer work under wine :\04:07
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Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: bad idea.04:07
BloodyTux:(04:07
_Ace2016_BloodyTux: just stop sudo asking for a password04:07
BloodyTuxhow?04:07
_Ace2016_edit /etc/sudoers04:07
BloodyTux:)04:08
Mystikkoh, thanks, i didnt know that either04:08
BloodyTuxhow do i edit that without root powers...04:08
Daisuke_Idome either04:08
Daisuke_IdoBloodyTux: sudo :P04:08
Mystikksudo nana04:08
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Mystikkoops nano /etc/sudoers i assume04:08
BloodyTux... using sudo to get rid of sudo... oh the irony04:08
Daisuke_Idoisn't it great?04:08
_Ace2016_YourUsername ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL     <<< add that04:08
Daisuke_Idoyou're not getting rid of sudo, you're getting rid of it asking for a password04:09
BloodyTuxace: huh?04:09
Tm_Twell you should never straight edit sudoers04:09
BloodyTuxhow do i do it then?04:09
Mystikkya, larn me pls04:09
Tm_T!sudo04:10
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:10
Tm_Tsee? "for all information" ;)04:10
_Ace2016_YourUsername ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL     <<< well thats what i added at the end of /etc/sudoers, now i never hate to type in a password when i do something like sudp apt-get update, or run the update manager04:11
Daisuke_Idoi'm risking my neck here, but i'm fighting the urge to say "Yes grandpa!  tell us the story of how the user defeated the awful sudo!"04:11
BloodyTuxlol04:11
Tm_TAce2016: visudo is "secured" command for editing sudoers04:11
Tm_TAce2016: IIRC for reason04:11
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Kubuntu-noobso something like sudo -u root passwd root04:11
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: err?04:12
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: no, you don't need password for root04:12
Kubuntu-noobit wouldn't let me do passwd root04:12
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: why you need it?04:12
_Ace2016_Kubuntu-noob: sudo -s then your password04:12
BloodyTuxkded: cannot connect to X server :004:12
BloodyTuxDCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5620' to 'kded'04:12
BloodyTuxkded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.04:12
Kubuntu-noobsaid i can't view or change that info04:12
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Tm_TKubuntu-noob: what info?04:13
BloodyTuxthats what i got with running kate in terminal04:13
Kubuntu-noobcause I want to config my wifi04:13
_Ace2016_BloodyTux: run kdesu kate, as your user04:13
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: well use sudo04:13
Kubuntu-nooband it asks for root password04:13
Tm_Tnot root04:13
Kubuntu-nooblogin as sudo?04:13
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_Ace2016_Kubuntu-noob: how are you trying to get to the config thing?04:14
Kubuntu-noobor call the wifi config with the command sudo04:14
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: no, as your normal user, "sudo command" for running command as root04:14
Kubuntu-noobit's from a gui menu04:14
Kubuntu-noobI think it gives the command tho04:14
BloodyTux# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges04:14
_Ace2016_Kubuntu-noob: then type in your user's password04:14
BloodyTuxcan i uncomment the part below it04:14
BloodyTux?04:14
Tm_TBloodyTux: no need to04:14
BloodyTux%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL04:15
BloodyTuxwhats the % then04:15
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Kubuntu-noobso is the root password a secret?04:15
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BloodyTuxthere is no root passwd04:15
BloodyTux...04:15
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: there is no password for root as default04:15
Kubuntu-noobThis CD somebody gave me04:15
BloodyTuxi set one on accident... how do i reset that too04:15
Tm_TKubuntu-noob: that means, no active root account, so your account (with sudo) is "root"04:16
_Ace2016_Kubuntu-noob: However if that does not work, try this, go to the menu item, right click, select put in run dialogue, now add "kdesu " to the front of the command so it will be "kdesu command" then click run, then type in your user's password04:16
Kubuntu-noobHe could have put his password on there.  What do you call that when you customize a distro04:16
melkordoes anybody here run xterm.04:16
Kubuntu-noobmy password workd04:16
Tm_Tmelkor: sure some of us04:16
_Ace2016_melkor: most people run konsole04:16
BloodyTuxkonsole rocks04:17
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Tm_Tmelkor: doing some poll?04:17
Daisuke_Idoyakuake here :)04:17
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_Ace2016_he is starting a terminal war!04:17
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Mystikkkonsole here04:17
Daisuke_Idoif he's actually asking if people use the command line, i think that's a big resounding "well duh!"04:17
BloodyTuxjoey ALL=NOPASSWD so like that?04:17
melkorI just wanted to set a color scheme04:17
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melkorNo console is a little ... heavey04:17
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Tm_Tmelkor: never done that with xterm04:18
Tm_Tmelkor: btw, don't ask to ask, just ask04:18
rfariashello, how can i update my feisty beta to final release????04:18
rfariasor just with sudo aptitude update?04:18
melkordid I ask to ask?04:18
Tm_Trfarias: just like you update in normal use04:18
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Tm_Tmelkor: yes04:18
rfariasthanks XD04:18
Daisuke_Idoum...  is final out already?04:18
BloodyTuxno04:18
Mystikki dont think for another 2 days04:18
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BloodyTuxa couple more days04:18
Kubuntu-noobyour right!  I am root!04:19
RictooOMG04:19
RictooOMG04:19
Tm_Tmelkor: "does anyone... I should... how I" so third question is what you can ask rightaway04:19
RictooI FUCKED UP xorg.conf AND THE COMPUTER WOULDN'T START XSERVER04:19
RictooAND I FIXED IYT04:19
RictooAND I FIXED IT!04:19
Jucato!caps04:19
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:19
MystikkYAY04:19
RictooI AM SO PROUD!!!!04:19
rfariasthis saturday we celebrate the "latin american party of free softwares" i'm very proud of that XD04:19
Mystikkcongratulations04:19
Rictoo=D04:19
melkorI want a color scheme for xterm, I always leave something unreadable.04:19
Kubuntu-noobsorry for shouting04:19
RictooI fixed my first Linux problem myself :D :D :D04:19
BloodyTuxlol04:19
rfariasnice XD04:19
BloodyTux!lol04:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
BloodyTux:)04:19
korrxRictoo : nice04:19
rfariashahahaa04:19
Rictoo=D04:19
Mystikkmelkor: edit, preferences04:19
Mystikk?04:20
BloodyTuxubotu is dumb04:20
melkorI have been searching but I haven't found a site04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
BloodyTux...04:20
Rictoo....04:20
BloodyTuxhahahaha04:20
RictooLOL04:20
shawn34Hey guys, can't seem to burn mp3/mp4 to audio cd in K3b, says it can't handle the files.. any ideas?04:20
Tm_Tkids, stop that nonsense noise04:20
Mystikkoh nice bot there04:20
Tm_Tshawn34: install k3b-mp3 or similar04:20
shawn34lol04:20
Jucatoshawn34: install libk3b2-mp304:20
BloodyTux!botabuse | everyone04:20
ubotueveryone: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:20
rfariasinstall the correct plugin shawn3404:21
shawn34Thanks04:21
Rictoodirect rendering: Yes04:21
Tm_TJucato: <304:21
RictooI AM EVEN HAPPIER NOW :D: :D :D04:21
Mystikkfabbb04:21
Tm_TRictoo: please stop04:21
BloodyTux!windows | everyone04:21
ubotueveryone: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents04:21
JucatoRictoo: we know you are, but please drop the caps04:21
RictooTm_T: I r excited04:21
Rictoook04:21
Tm_TRictoo: we know it already ;)04:21
Rictooi will talk like this now04:21
Rictoook/04:21
korrx:p04:21
BloodyTux!exit04:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
Rictooi cant use shift04:21
BloodyTuxi have to go04:22
Rictooso if i wanna type a tounge i do ;p04:22
Rictoolol04:22
BloodyTuxbye peeps04:22
RictooBYE04:22
BloodyTuxoh and rictoo...04:22
Rictoolol04:22
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RictooYes? =D04:22
BloodyTuxquit the monutain dew... ;)04:22
Rictoo:(04:22
Jucato"a tongue by any other case, upper or lower, will look the same"04:22
RictooWHY04:22
RictooI LIK IT04:22
BloodyTuxbye :)04:22
RictooJucato, hahaha04:22
Rictoocya04:22
melkorWhat sort of editor do you need to edit the .Xauthority file?04:22
Mystikkbybbye04:22
korrxbb04:23
melkorSorry wrong file ... never mind04:23
korrx$!God04:23
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dwidmann"[22:22]  <BloodyTux> quit the monutain dew... ;)" :O04:24
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Kubuntu-noobdoes the lates kubuntu have ndiswrapper allready in it?04:24
thefirstdudecan I upgrade from Dapper to F... easily?04:24
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Tm_TKubuntu-noob: I assume no04:24
Tm_Tthefirstdude: nope04:24
Tm_Tthefirstdude: or, maybe04:25
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dwidmannthefirstdude: might be easier to do a clean install, or a cd upgrade (requires the alternate disk)04:25
Tm_Tthefirstdude: but I assume there will be more trouble than from Edgy to Feisty04:25
shawn34wow never thought i'd say this.... but i like KDE soooo much better than Gnome... I don't know how i lived without it lol04:25
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dwidmannTm_T: Edgy to feisty shouldn't be too bad with the new dist-upgrade tool, supposing that nothing goes wrong ...04:26
dwidmann(I wasn't so lucky, but other people seemed to have better luck with it than I did)04:26
Tm_Tdwidmann: exactly =)04:26
=== Jucato was more or less lucky with the dist-upgrade tool
Daisuke_Idoi was kinda...  eh04:26
=== Tm_T never used those stuff
Daisuke_Idoit worked, with a little after-upgrade tweaking04:27
dwidmannWhen I did t he dist-upgrade it failed to download or install a handful of packages including but not limitted to the kernel.04:27
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apus(this is major apus) so I got it working daisuke04:27
Jucatodwidmann: using the GUI dist-upgrade tool? (points to the topic)04:27
apusI used safe graphics mode, and it worked just fine (at 1280x1024x32) so I'm not sure what was so "safe" about it04:27
dwidmannJucato: Yes04:27
premier_hello, I upgraded to fiesty and konqueror isn't working04:27
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Daisuke_Idoapus: excellent04:27
Daisuke_Idoin vga mode, i assume04:27
Jucatohm...04:28
dwidmannthat was weeks ago, of course04:28
Tm_Tpremier_: "doesn't work" means what in this case?04:28
dwidmannMaybe that has since been fixed04:28
apusdepends, does vga mode mean vga selected int he list, or does choosing anything form the resolution list make it vga04:28
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Daisuke_Idoi'll rephrase, rather than vga mode, another mode.04:29
apusi hit f4 and vga was an option, but I chose the resolution 1280x1024x3204:29
Daisuke_Idothat means it's a video issue.  lord knows why it would be doing that...04:29
apusthen I clicked run in safe graphics mode04:29
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Daisuke_Idoapus: ah...  so far so good then04:29
apusand then it installed and it boots fine04:30
Tm_TJucato: ok your turn I guess, I go to grab some breakfast and hopefully quick nap ->04:30
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premier_Tm_T: sorry, it looks like that error fixed itself, but yesterday it was acting very strange, not showing toolbars and stuff.04:31
SkrotffsCan I run a certain cron-job manually (not executing the script my self, but having crontab execute it)?04:32
apusI guess it was a wierd fluke, it ran fine at the mode it should have used by default04:32
premier_Anyway, I'm also having trouble with an external hard drive.  I have it plugged in the usb port and its not showing up.  Its not mounted in media, I can't find an entry in /dev/, and lsusb does not list the device04:32
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apusis there a good place for noob questions, I guess im trying to "convert" and no doubt I will have tons of questions04:33
Mystikkoh no!04:34
Mystikki actually need w32codecs04:34
Mystikknoooo!04:34
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dwidmannapus, this is a pretty good place for those questions04:34
dwidmannubuntuforums.org isn't bad either04:35
shawn34i hate downloading the w32codecs.... it takes like 8 years lol04:35
Kubuntu-noobhelped me out loads allready :)04:35
dwidmannshawn34: dialup?04:35
Mystikki have to find them first, but etc04:35
shawn34lol04:35
Mystikkthe forums are excellent04:35
shawn34no way man04:35
shawn34the server w32codecs are on is always draggn ass04:35
Jucato!w32codecs04:35
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs04:35
Jucatoshawn34: that one?04:36
dwidmannshawn34: I think the mirror I use for getting w32codecs is people.virginia.edu or some such ... it wasn't too bad04:36
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pollyo1Hello04:36
JucatoThere's also http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/04:37
dwidmannhi04:37
Kubuntu-noobThanks for the help all.  I gotta reboot now.04:37
Kubuntu-noobbrb04:38
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premier_does anyone have any ideas on my external hard drive?  I have it plugged in the usb port and its not showing up.  Its not mounted in media, I can't find an entry in /dev/, and lsusb does not list the device04:40
kai_when i got to update, I keep getting these key errors, what can I do to get rid of them so I can get updates from that repo?04:40
melkordoes anybody know how I would go about configuring the terminal shell that kate runs?04:40
premier_would power cycling help?04:40
afasilvaanyone from Brazil?04:40
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soulrider_!br | afasilva04:41
ubotuafasilva: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.04:41
soulrider_!software04:41
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents04:41
paulis anyone able to help with a kde problem?04:42
melkor!kate04:42
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code04:42
shawn34premier_, your usb port working? maybe try booting up with the hd on and plugged in04:42
stdin!ask | paul04:42
ubotupaul: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:42
paulrighto, kde seems to think my mp3 player is a camera04:43
paulit is a gigabeat that uses mtp, but before I had libmtp2 installed, I may have selected it to be a camera or whatever04:44
melkormaybe its a camera04:44
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paulhow can I make kde realize it is not a camera?04:44
paulmelkor: despite what it thinks, it is not a camera04:45
greg_gbut what if it is a camera?04:45
paul... its not a camera04:45
melkorwhat does it mount it as?04:45
paulcamera://Toshiba Gigabeat@[usb:004,007] /04:46
pollyo1paul: Doesn't KDE come up with a window that asks you want you want to do with the device?04:46
apuswhat opens .deb?04:46
melkorapus dpkg04:47
Jucatoapus: right-click on it, select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package04:47
Jucato(presuming it's a package you really want to install)04:47
pollyo1BBL...Restarting my new installation.  See you in a bit04:47
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apusthanks jucato04:47
apusto bad it didn't work,04:48
melkorpaul I was refering to the directory, ie does it mount it so that you can view the files on it?04:48
Jucatoapus: what is it?04:48
premier_hello, my external hard drive issue remains.  I rebooted and its still not listed on lsusb04:48
apusit tried to install but it gave a dependency error, its automatix04:48
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Jucato!automatix | apus04:48
ubotuapus: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:48
Jucatoapus: I think there's an #automatix channel04:49
stdingod, you gotta hate that automatic stuff04:49
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paulmelkor: it's not showing as if it is mounted04:50
kgx!WorksForMe04:50
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:50
paulI can't seem to locate where it is mounted to be honest, I only get that kio address(media:/)04:50
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paul* camera:/ that is04:50
stdinpaul: look in /media04:51
paulstdin: its not listed in /media04:51
korrx paul : you owned the last fbi mp3 player04:51
melkorpaul try a ' ls /dev/sda*'04:52
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paulmelkor: no such file or directory04:52
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melkorWhen you plug it in do you get a chance to 'open in new window' ?04:53
premier_my hard drive was working just a few hours ago with no problem.  Its a new hard drive, and now it doesn't show up in linux anywhere even though its plugged into the usb.04:54
paulmelkor: yes, thats how I am looking at it now, but it isn't showing all the files that should be there and I do have it set to Show hidden files04:54
melkorfrom the command line type df04:54
melkorIt would show where it is there and what device you are using04:54
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apusI am using a 300g hd for the kubuntu install, it has a swap partition, my question is, should I use a partition for the os (around30g) and then leave the rest for data04:56
RictooI plugged in a USB thumb drive, and ubuntu detected it:04:56
Rictoohttp://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9048/snapshot2ru5.png04:56
Rictoobut it doesn't mount it04:56
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Rictoohow would I mount i?04:56
Rictooit*04:56
hitmanWillyRictoo, open in new window mounts it04:56
stdinRictoo: tried clicking "Open in New Window" ?04:56
RictoohitmanWilly, not for me :S04:57
RictooI clicked open in new window04:57
Rictoobut it doesn't do anything04:57
Rictoonothing opens04:57
Rictoo..04:57
stdinRictoo: is it new?04:57
Rictoois what new?04:57
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apushow big should I leave the os only partition?04:57
paulmelkor: it doesn't show up in that command04:58
stdinapus: you have a big HDD, so around 30GB, up to you tho. it's mostly going to be for apps you install04:58
stdinRictoo: the usb drive04:58
Rictoonot really04:58
Rictoolol04:58
melkorpaul, but you can see some files on it from the window?04:59
stdinRictoo: I mean new as in "used"04:59
stdinRictoo: you may just need to format it04:59
RictooI formatted it as FAT3204:59
stdinRictoo: does it show in /media ?05:00
Rictooso how would I reformat it if it isn't even mounted?05:00
Rictoostdin: No.05:00
Dr_willisyou dont format a mounted partition.05:00
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Dr_willisyou unmount them, then mkfs.Whatever /dev/whatever05:01
Rictoooh05:01
Rictoook05:01
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paulmelkor: yes05:01
Rictoobut the problem is I don't know where in /dev it is XD05:01
korrx!parted05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
Dr_willisRictoo,  try 'sudo fdisk -l'05:01
flaccid!info qtparted05:01
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB05:01
korrxyhx05:01
korrxthx05:01
Rictoo/dev/sda1   *           1       61024      976379+   b  W95 FAT3205:02
melkorpaul, I dont know I was thinking if you knew the device name you could change what it is.05:02
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Rictoomoparisthebest05:03
paulmelkor: yeah, it would be nice to delete where ever it is stored that it thinks this device is a camera05:03
RictooWhat is the usb drive in /mount called on your computer?05:03
Rictoooops05:03
Rictoowrong channel =/05:03
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moparisthebestthis really is the right channel Rictoo, they know more than I do :)05:04
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moparisthebest/mount/usbdisk is what mine is called Rictoo05:04
Rictoo=/05:04
apuswhat app can I use to partition05:04
flaccidhehe05:04
paulmelkor: or just to make it think it was a usb flash drive as opposed to a camera, I am pretty sure because it thinks it is a camera it treats it differently anddoes not give the same options05:04
hitmanWillyRictoo, something like usb20fd or the like05:04
flaccid!qtparted > apus05:04
sparrwtf is up with clamav having an HOURLY cron job that emails me to tell me that my installation is out of date?05:04
melkorpaul, for older kde, like I had to use the fstab05:04
moparisthebestoh wait, it is /media/usbdisk Rictoo, sorry05:04
melkorpaul, I think these guys are talking about what you need todo though.05:04
premier_Hi, I'm having trouble with my external hard drive.  my hard drive was working just a few hours ago with no problem.  Its a new hard drive as of today, and now it doesn't show up in linux anywhere even though its plugged into the usb.05:05
flaccidsparr: ask clamav05:05
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stdinclamav = pointless (to me)05:05
RictooYAY05:05
flaccidpremier_: does it show ub in lsusb ?05:05
RictooMY USB DRIVE IS MOUNTED :D FINALLY05:05
premier_flaccid: no05:05
sparrflaccid: no, ill ask the distro responsible for the package, since its not a clamav default05:05
flaccidw0a that hurt my ears05:05
flaccidpremier_: check /var/log/messages , /var/log/syslog and dmesg for erros with the usb. if its not coming up in lsusb its not doing the first step of setting up the usb05:06
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flaccidsparr: contact the package mantainer then05:06
melkorpaul, like the 'sudo fdisk -l' command seemed to show unmounted devices.05:06
melkorgood luck05:07
flaccidsparr: actually try #ubuntu-devel or send to the ubuntu devel mailing list too05:07
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flaccidfdisk -l will list all parts on disk devices mounted or unmounted05:07
stdinsparr: ran "clamav-freshclam" ? it updates the virus list05:08
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paulmelkor: sudo fdisk -l didn't show it, it's as if it mounts it just when its in use and does not keep it mounted05:08
Rictoohow would I make kubuntu recognize a swap partition?05:08
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stdinRictoo: sudo  swapon /dev/swapdevice05:09
flaccidRictoo: put it in /etc/fstab05:09
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Rictoook, which one do I do XD05:09
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premier_http://pastebin.ca/445823 <- my dmesg05:09
stdineither/either/both :p05:09
peepsalotwhy does kmix not show all the things that alsamixer can show05:09
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Rictoohmm05:10
Rictooin /dev how do I know which one is swap? =/05:10
RictooI have 3 partitions05:10
Rictooand there are 4 hda*05:10
Rictoo,,,05:10
RictooI'm confused :S05:10
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stdinRictoo: "sudo fdisk -l" again, look for "swap"05:10
Dr_willisfdisk -l will show the swap partition as having the swap filesystem05:10
peepsalotsudo fdisk -l05:10
Rictoook05:10
sparrstdin: its complaining about the engine, not the definitions05:11
Rictoofound it :D05:11
RictooThanks05:11
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Rictooguys05:11
Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~$ sudo swapon /dev/hda305:11
Rictooswapon: /dev/hda3: Device or resource busy05:11
apuscan qtparted resize without losing data?05:11
hitmanWillyRictoo, that means its on already05:12
stdinRictoo: you sure it's not already enabled?05:12
Rictoo...05:12
Rictoobut05:12
moparisthebestit is supposed to be able to apus, doesn't always work :/05:12
stdinRictoo: cat /proc/swaps05:12
Rictoooh05:12
RictooIt's already enabled05:12
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Rictoo.........05:12
moparisthebestapus, what type of file system do you want to resize?05:12
RictooBUT THE COMPUTER IS SO SLOW :((05:12
premier_flaccid: do you see it?05:12
flacciddon't shout!05:12
flacciddo i see what05:12
Rictoobut the computer is so slow :9905:12
Rictoois that better? :D05:12
apusthe ext3 that kubuntu is on05:13
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Rictoo/dev/hda3                               partition       514072  17564   -105:13
RictooWhy priority: -1 ?05:13
RictooIs that ok?05:13
stdinyeah05:13
peepsalotwhat are your hardware specs Rictoo?05:13
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Rictoopeepsalot: Celeron 1.8ghz05:13
hitmanWillyRictoo, swap files really don't speed anything up, they just act like extra ram05:13
moparisthebestit *should* be ok apus05:13
Rictoo512mb ram05:13
korrxhttp://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted05:13
ScottLij_Celeron sucks05:14
Rictoo...05:14
RictooI know -.-05:14
apusI'm questioning how to actually tell it05:14
premier_flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/445827 <- tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog05:14
premier_flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/445823 <- my dmesg05:14
peepsalotif you are using much swap, then you might get a performance boost from adding some ram05:14
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peepsalotphysical RAM chips05:15
apusthe resize tool is grayed out05:15
peepsalotRictoo, you can also try xubuntu, it is leaner than KDE.  i have it running on one of my boxes05:15
Rictoocan linux use a usb flash drive as RAM?05:15
RictooLike ReadyBoost in Vista? :D05:15
RictooNO!05:15
RictooI'm not giving up KDE! <305:15
Dr_willisRictoo,  vista not using it as ram.. they are using it as a swapfile holder.05:15
Rictooorly05:16
Rictoo..05:16
RictooTHEN THEY LIE05:16
Dr_willisin theory linux could do it also.. BUT on this box.. im not even using the swap partition..05:16
Rictoolol05:16
hitmanWillyRictoo, format it as swap and swapon it will do the same thing05:16
apuscan qtparted resize the partition its currently boot from05:16
Dr_willisbut also that ready boost thing is holding files to make booting faster for the most part i thought.05:16
Rictoobut what if I unplug the flash drive? :)05:16
RictooBad things....05:16
Dr_willisapus,  resizing a mounted partition is not a good thing to do.05:16
Dr_willisRictoo,  i got a usb conector inside the case. :)  i can plug one in there.. and thus its not accesable normally05:17
peepsalotyeah i thought ready boost only worked on special hybrid hard drives that had flash built in05:17
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Rictoohaha05:17
Rictoonice05:17
apusthats just silly, partition magic can do it05:17
Rictooyeah05:17
Dr_willispeepsalot,  i think thats somthing else.. heh.. but those drives are not out yet i think05:17
Rictoo<3 partition magic05:17
apusit never asked me during the install how big I wanted to OS partition05:17
flaccidpremier_: i can't see any real errors. sorry i don't know what the problem is. can you pastebin lsusb for me out of curiosity05:17
apuscan I do it from the live cd?05:18
premier_http://pastebin.ca/44583205:18
Dr_willisapus,  you are failing to understand the idea of mounted partitions then and why its a bad idea.. boot a live cd like the gparted live cd (a MUST have tool) and resize all ya want.05:18
premier_flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/44583205:18
Dr_willisapus,  i  the gparted live cd. is great for that. :) the kubuntu live cd can also do it.05:18
Dr_willisgparted cd is a little better. because its more minimal. and thus will boot faster.05:19
flaccidpremier_: so you have 4 usb devices plugged in. the 4th one being the hdd is not coming up in lsusb?05:19
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RictooI'm bored, I think I'll run cygwin-rxvt with wine05:19
RictooXD05:19
premier_flaccid: well, my wireless bluetooth isn't really a usb device05:19
premier_idk why thats listed05:19
flaccidwhat is the bluetooth?05:20
flaccidwhich connectivity protocol05:20
k1mosabehow do I stop kate from opening everything?05:20
premier_and I don't know what the second one is, I using a dell laptop05:20
premier_klm05:20
flaccidklm?05:20
premier_k1mosabe: you find a text file, right click on it where it says properties05:20
flaccidwhat brand is the actual hard disk and or ext. case?05:20
Dr_willispremier_,  could be the built in media-slot-reader things.05:20
k1mosabepremier_: it opens every file I try to download05:21
premier_flaccid: Its a seagate hard drive, and a new venus DS305:21
flaccidpremier_: and you tried all hubs?05:21
paulmelkor: thanks for your help, I think I got it figured out, when it is plugged into the media dock it thinks its a camera, when I plug it directly into the player, it sees that it is also a storage device, thanks!05:21
premier_k1mosabe: where are you downloading from?  firefox?05:21
premier_flaccid: yeah05:22
k1mosabekonqueror05:22
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premier_does konqueror have an embedded text editor?05:22
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Dr_willisembeded?05:23
Jucatopremier_: only an embedded text viewer05:23
flaccidpremier_: weird. i don't know sorry, but i've seen this kind of behaviour before and when it happens, i plug a hub into one of the hubs and it works. nothing is showing up in df -h or fdisk -l or anything like that?05:23
k1mosabei'm not trying to open text files.. i'm trying to download like .deb or .rpm yadda yadda05:23
Dr_willisk1mosabe,  ive seen some servers not send those sort of files properly. so the browser thinks they are text filkes.05:23
flaccid!associations05:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about associations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:23
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premier_fdisk -l?05:23
flaccidk1mosabe: change the file association of the extensions in konqueror config -> file associations05:24
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premier_k1mosabe: kate is opening .deb files?  thats weird05:24
flaccidpremier_: yes. sudo fdisk -l      --> does that show only your internal hard disks are the external as well?05:24
Dr_willisyou are downloading a .deb and you click on it and kate opens it?05:24
Dr_willisor is the browser showign the .deb as a text file?05:25
apustyring to install beryl: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail"05:25
hitmanWillyapus, do you have any other package managers running?05:25
hitmanWillyapus, ie adept?05:25
kaner_is there a good/simple tool to convert video files to something more compatible to make a video dvd?05:25
apusyes I do! thanks05:25
hitmanWillynp05:25
premier_flaccid: yeah, its only showing my internal hard drive05:26
flaccidpremier_: sorry i cant help further05:26
stdinkaner_: try DeVeDe05:27
kaner_thanks.05:27
Daisuke_Idoanyone have any ideas on why dvdshrink would no longer work under wine (or barring that, good simple alternatives for converting a dvd9 to dvd5 while keeping menus and such intact)05:28
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stdinDaisuke_Ido: umm k9copy ?05:29
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premier_Hi, I'm having trouble with my external hard drive.  my hard drive was working just a few hours ago with no problem.  Its a new hard drive as of today, and now it doesn't show up in linux anywhere even though its plugged into the usb.05:30
stdinDaisuke_Ido: and wine is just like that, one version it works, next.. nothing05:30
hitmanWillyive pretty much given up on wine myself05:30
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flaccidpremier_: someone would of helped you if they could. please don't repeat all day05:30
flaccidpremier_: google might be a better place to start05:31
apusk3b gives me a burn error as soon as its starts (disk doesn't even spin up) any ideas?05:31
stdinpermissions maybe, what errors?05:31
Dr_willisrun it from a terminal - check for errors apus05:31
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apus"probably a buffer underrun occured"05:32
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apusbut it happens at 0%05:32
apuswodim: No such file or directory.05:32
apusCannot open SCSI driver!05:32
Dr_willisthe /dev/entry may be wrong  - theres a k3b-setup tool that you may want to run.05:33
apushow would I do that05:34
hitmanWillyapus: k3b-setup?05:35
ron_which irc network is superkaramba on?05:35
apus?05:35
hitmanWillyapus, nevermind05:35
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LeeJunFanhrm, my thumbnail generation of video files no longer works with feisty.05:38
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apusshould I try a different burner?05:39
apusthe blank media is recognized05:40
dwidmannLeeJunFan: which kinds of videos?05:40
dwidmannLeeJunFan: it seems to be working for me05:40
LeeJunFandwidmann: all.05:40
LeeJunFanhrm, somehow libarts1-xine got removed from my system.05:41
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dwidmannI just emptied my thumbnail cache so I could reliably test .. and it worked fine, of course, all of the files I looked at were XVID though05:41
flaccidapus: maybe you are putting the wrong type of media in05:41
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rodrigosomeboy help me with BIND05:41
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rodrigosomebody help me with BIND05:41
flaccidwhats the problem05:41
apusgive me more credit than that :P  I may sound like a noob because im new to linux but I'm very capable on windows and tech savvy05:41
rodrigosomebody help me with BIND05:41
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LeeJunFandwidmann: yeah, working now - I have no idea how that package got removed, I always install it and it worked a week ago - and I don't use autoremove. hehe05:42
flaccidapus: i don't know you, so i can't credit you with anything :p05:42
flaccidrodrigo: whats the problem05:42
flaccid!ask05:42
dwidmannLeeJunFan: autoremove is the devil05:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:42
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Dr_willisapus,  you do NOT want to know the hr i spent puzzlyng about why my old box couldent read this dvd i'd just burnt.. but the other pc's could.. :)  (hint.. i frogot that machine had only a cd drive) heh05:43
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LeeJunFandwidmann: you're just angry cuz you got so many teeth :)05:43
apuslol dr willis05:43
dwidmannhehehe05:43
Dr_willisapus,  any sort of info about what drives are seen when ya run k3b from the shell?05:44
LeeJunFandwidmann: so you got that eh? :) I was worried.05:44
apusso the disk utility sees all my hdds and all the partitions, but I cant enable the ntfs partition on my first drive so I can access it05:44
Dr_willisapus,  could try running k3b as root also with sudo.05:44
Dr_willisapus,  you using feisty?05:44
dwidmannI've got a quick question while I'm at it, what would it take to get a dual monitor setup going? Would I need anything special (like a KVM switch or something?)05:45
apusyes feisty05:45
apusin shell I get erors, "bad device, invalid....05:45
Daisuke_Idoapus: error 168?05:45
apus16705:46
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Daisuke_Idoinput device?05:46
apusX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16705:46
Daisuke_Idoyep05:46
Daisuke_Idoignore it05:46
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flaccid!baddevice05:46
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:46
Daisuke_Idothat's the wacom stuff built into the default xorg configuration05:46
Marthydwidmann: did you want to run 2 computers with one monitor, or one computer with 2 monitors05:46
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Marthy?05:46
apus:~$ find: /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs/005: Permission denied05:46
Daisuke_Idoyou can comment it out05:46
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apusyou forget im noob!05:47
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billydoes anyone know how to list and modify enviornment variables in ubuntu?05:48
apuserror 255 when I try and burn (didn't see that before)05:48
flaccidbilly: cli or gui?05:48
billyis there something similar to the System -> Enviornment Variables screen in XP05:48
flaccidthere is05:49
flaccidtrying to find it atm05:49
billyeither cli or gui would be fine (both, if possible)05:49
dwidmannMarthy, one computer, two monitors, looks like I wouldn't need a kvm for that, that would have been the other one ... I think05:49
dwidmanngood old wikipedia :)05:49
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fuel!convert05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
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apusstill having issues with k3b05:50
ScottLij_stupid question... how do I make a script in Kubuntu?05:50
flaccidbilly: can't find the gui. use set and export in gui05:50
flacciderr in terminal05:51
Marthydwidmann: yeah you wont need a kvm then05:51
flaccidScottLij_: with a text editor like kate05:51
Marthyjust 2 video cards in the machine05:51
SkrotffsScottLij_: What sort of script?05:51
ScottLij_file extension?05:51
ScottLij_.sh?05:51
Skrotffs.sh is for bash scripts, yes05:51
flaccidany text editor is fine05:51
MarthyI ran dual monitors for a while, under kubuntu with no hardware acceleration05:51
fuelwell, you dont need to specify an extension.05:51
SkrotffsBut it doesn't matter. As long as you start your script with "#!/bin/bash" it will run it with bash05:51
Marthyit worked well05:51
apuscan I paste 3 lines in here?05:52
fuelapus: no05:52
Skrotffs!paste05:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:52
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apusthis is the actual burn error from k3b http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16191/05:53
fuelany idea where i can get convert package?05:53
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fueli downloaded an icon set and it needs this 'convert' program/executable.05:54
chemicalvampwheres the how-to for installing ati on feisty.. dont ge me that !ati thing, its not in there05:54
dwidmannThanks marthy, I have high hopes for the new setup ... now to find the cheapest decent lcd :)05:54
fuelreading from the buildset , it is used to resize icons...05:54
chemicalvamptreid it, and then xserver didnt wanna load05:54
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mark_can someone help me with my fglrx problem?05:55
Marthydwidmann: trust me you wont regret extra workspace,if ya need help Ill be here, or someone else will, people here are smart05:55
apuscan someone please check the k3b error I posted above05:56
fuelapus : when did you get this error?05:57
fuelwhile burning or launching the program ?05:57
apuswhen I click burn05:57
apusit doesn't even spin up the disk, but it recognized the blank cd-r and mounted it to the desktop05:57
apusthe burner is "disabled" in teh disk and filesystems settings tab05:58
fueli think its probably a bug. Did you try googling for the error ?05:58
dwidmannMarthy: I know :)05:58
dwidmannI think I found a decent one, whaddaya think? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2825269&CatId=277505:59
dwidmannonly part that scares me is t hat I've never heard of the brand05:59
Marthyyeah i am not the expert on those things, i still use CRTs, but I would either get a warrantee or stick with a main brand name06:00
apusI just want to burn a disk, something else I can use06:00
wolferinewho runs VMWare?06:01
wolferineand what do you run in it?06:01
apusthis is the k3b log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16192/06:02
hitmanWillydwidmann, i use a westinghouse with pretty similar specs, never had a problem with it for about the same amount of money06:02
apuswolferine: I have used vmware but I use virtualpc06:03
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wolferinewhy the change?06:03
apusI get vritualpc for free06:04
wolferineso no issues with it?06:04
apusit doesn't support 32 bit color, so installing anything that defaults to it (like kubuntu) is hard06:04
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dwidmannhitmanWilly: I'm shopping around right now ... I see a Samsung for a comparable price, I might just jump on it06:05
apusat one point I had vista, dsl, kubunut, xp, 98, and 95 all on virtualpc06:05
apusthe vmware I used wasn't the full version, so I cant say much about it06:05
apuswhen I stick in a cd my bios speaker beeps at me, anywhere I can check for a log06:06
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dwidmannhitmanWilly: yes, I think I will indeed :D http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2485526&CatId=277506:09
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Ahmuck!windows06:09
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:09
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hitmanWillydwidmann, nice :)06:13
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apusso im getting error 255 with k3b, google suggest it is common06:16
apuswhat other program could I try06:16
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apusIf i just want a a partition for data, where should the mount point be?06:23
ferret_0567_Why does Adept need apt-index-watcher?06:24
ferret_0567_The KDE system services manager says it's not running06:24
charlie5hi folks ... I installed k3d some time ago, and then tried to uninstall it via adept, but there is a problem uninstalling it ... now when i try to install any other package, adept also tries to complete the k3d install (and fails) ... how might I get rid of it for good ?06:24
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ferret_0567_something to do with dpkg will help...06:25
ferret_0567_I forget what06:25
Marthyhave you apt-get updated at all?06:25
charlie5Marthy: not recently, i'll do it now ... thanks06:25
Marthywelcome06:26
Marthysometiems it helps06:26
Marthy*sometimes06:26
charlie5mm, same problem :/ ... the error seems to involve python ...06:27
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charlie5Removing k3d ...06:27
charlie5Traceback (most recent call last):06:27
charlie5  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1348, in ?06:27
charlie5  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1342, in main06:28
charlie5    rv = action.run(global_options)06:28
charlie5  File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 932, in run06:28
charlie5...06:28
apusI still cant get k3b to burn a disc06:28
apusthis is getting frustrating fast06:28
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flaccidgood riddance06:30
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kalorin`I love k3d06:32
kalorin`k3b rather06:32
kalorin`does a solid job for me06:32
ferret_0567_k3b works well06:32
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kalorin`I haven't used it since I was running xubuntu06:33
kalorin`worked great htere for me06:33
jiangtrer06:34
jiangsorry06:34
kalorin`agyyawgn06:35
kalorin`me too :)06:35
jianghehe06:35
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jianghello  Kalorin06:35
kalorin`hola06:36
jiangMay I ask where are you now (which country) ? I'm a Chinese06:37
kalorin`cincinnati ohio06:37
kalorin`where from in china and where are you now?06:38
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jiangI'm from TianJIn city China06:38
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jiangTianJin not far from BeiJing06:39
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kalorin`well welcome06:41
jiangThank U06:41
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kaiis there a program to convert ogg vorbis files to mp3?06:47
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jza873hi everyone06:48
jianghello06:49
dwidmannhitmanWilly: I feel guilty now .... I actually went through with it :O06:49
hitmanWillydwidmann, buyers remorse, huh...06:50
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jza873question im trying to set up 2 things one is remote access i have a static ip and im trying to do remote access so i can access my computer from my job and i also want to set up remote telnet to ill be able to telnet into the UNIX end of my system any ideas06:50
hitmanWillydwidmann, don't get too down, im actually looking at a cpu upgrade right now06:50
dwidmannhitmanWilly: I still feel guilty from that too06:50
hitmanWillydwidmann, amd's gotten real cheap lately06:51
dwidmanngot an FX-60 when I fried my other processor/board .. not sure which, but something was dead, so I replaced both ...06:51
kaiany suggestions06:51
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hitmanWilly!info ogg2mp306:52
ubotuPackage ogg2mp3 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:52
hitmanWilly!find ogg2mp306:52
ubotuPackage/file ogg2mp3 does not exist in edgy06:52
kaiI looked for that couldn't find anything06:52
kaiSo ic an't actuall convert w/o the cd eh?06:53
hitmanWilly!info mp32ogg06:53
ubotump32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB06:53
dwidmannmaybe soundkonverter?06:53
hitmanWillythat's what i was thinking of...06:53
dwidmann!info soundkonverter06:53
ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB06:53
kaiInstalling at this moment06:53
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hitmanWillydwidmann, actually looking at a x2 4200 right now06:54
kaidwidmann: I didn't have any Ideas for encoders when I was googling06:54
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illriginalAnyone know about installing Linux onto PS2?06:54
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jza873yea download yellow dog06:55
dwidmannhitmanWilly: should be pretty cheap, can't feel too guilty about that one eh?06:55
jza873ohh waite ps206:55
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flakewhere can I find my menus/submenus under gnome?06:55
illriginalyellow dog on playstation 2?!06:55
illriginalyeah lol06:55
jza873thats ps3 on ps2 they made a version its hard to find tho06:55
kalorin`if I'm going to upgrade it'll be to an E6600 w/ 2gb of ram06:55
hitmanWillydwidmann, $130 from tigerdirect06:56
kaiwhy would any one use ogg vorbis for audio compression?06:56
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illriginalyeah I'm having a hard time finding the operating system for ps206:56
dwidmannkai: because it works well06:56
kalorin`kai, they've got a sony minidisk player?06:56
dwidmannand it's a free format06:56
kaiit doesn't play on mp3 players, I never heard of an OggPlayer b406:56
dwidmannOgg compresses better than mp3 generally ...06:56
kaibut MD are lame, I had one, I hated it06:56
kalorin`my sony minidisk works really pretty well and it's cheap for media and plays for a long time06:56
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hitmanWillykai, it has better quality, open format, and my mp3 player plays them just fine06:56
kalorin`I bought it befor emp3 players had more than like 256meg of ram06:57
kaiyea, I suppose06:57
jza873here06:57
jza873http://playstation2-linux.com/download/cfyc/HOWTO_blindly_install_ps2linux.html06:57
kaiwhere MD reigned Supreme06:57
illriginalwow06:57
jza873this wont be a fun experience06:57
kalorin`it's not so bad all things considered06:57
illriginalthanks alot jza!!06:57
kaiI took my MD to IRaq06:57
jza873n/p06:57
kaiit didn't do very well06:57
illriginalthe installation is a pain in the arse?06:57
kaimy nomad worked like a charm tho06:57
jza873looks to be06:57
kalorin`I just hated their stupid software06:58
draremwhere can I find my menus/submenus under gnome?06:58
kaiit was slow too06:58
kalorin`well yeah, solid state for that kind of environment for sure06:58
kalorin`minidisk did a good job in the gym though06:58
kalorin`and that kind of stuff06:58
kaiI think it had something to do with the disk getting bigger in the heat06:58
illriginali see..06:58
illriginalim gonna check it out, thanks again jza!06:58
kalorin`kai, I could see that being an issue as well06:58
kalorin`ok folks, nighty time06:59
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kaiI prefer the creative nomad but I needed something a lil meateir, esp after my HORRIFC experiance w/ ipod the first tim06:59
jza873hay liten i reinstalled linux again so i could put /home on a new partition by its self and i need for k3b the mp3 decoding library again any one got the repo install for it06:59
dwidmannnight kalorin`06:59
jza873later06:59
hitmanWillykai, ugh, ipods...06:59
dwidmann!info libk3b2-mp306:59
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB06:59
jza873awesom yea im not using edgy tho07:00
kaiI had to07:00
jza873edgy wont detect a gigabyte lan07:00
hitmanWillyyeah, so did i, that's why the ugh07:00
kaihitmanWilly: Its cool now, it works and everything07:00
hitmanWillythat's good at least07:01
kaiMine broke the day i bought07:01
kalorin`ok newegg has athlon 64 x2 4600+ for 119.9907:01
kalorin`sorry I have a code for $5 off that07:01
kalorin`and free shipping07:01
kaihitmanWilly: And I couldn't take it back07:01
kalorin`so 114.9907:01
kalorin`AM2 socket though07:01
hitmanWillykalorin`, sorry, 93907:01
noobanyone know how to build install ndiswrapper?07:01
hitmanWillykalorin`, and a mobo swap is a little out of my budget right now07:02
kalorin`yeah07:02
kalorin`I know that feeling07:02
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jza873damn i just went to walmart and bought an acer pos for 400$ but for linux its great do you need such a powerful computer rember linux is not windows07:02
dwidmannhitmanWilly: especially seeing as you'd have to switch out the RAM too, that wouldn't be cheap07:03
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hitmanWillyjza873, need, no, want, yes :)07:03
jza873i know07:04
jza873its all for bragging rights07:04
hitmanWillydwidmann, yea, tell me about it07:04
jza873but dont do new egg go to either www.ibuypower.com or www.cyberpowerpc.com07:04
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jza873go cyber power and customize the mega special 107:04
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jza873sockt am2 3800+ 2x gig of ram07:05
jza873for baseline07:05
dwidmannjza873: of course we need powerful computers ;)07:05
jza873you should see mine you would laugh its a small form factor celeron D07:05
jza873all i could afford now07:05
dwidmannouch07:05
hitmanWillyugh07:05
jza873had vista on it used vista to download feisty and bam no more vista07:05
hitmanWillywho would put vista on a celeron!?!07:06
jza873friggin vista took 2.5 hours b4 i could use the computer07:06
jza873umm lets c every computer has vista now07:06
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jza873not teh cekleron isnt the bad thing its vista takes 700mb of ram to boot and i only have 51207:06
dwidmannjza873: The though of that scares me. At least mine doesn't have Vista.07:06
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hitmanWillythank you M$ marketing/shakedown department07:07
jza873i dont use windows all together i havnt had wibndows for like 3 years07:07
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jza873been with osx for teh past 3 and now like 2 week been running linux07:07
dwidmannjza873: I think the Ubuntu alternate cd takes 170mb/ram to run, or some such. I had fun with it in vmware seeing how it would perform on low mem07:07
FireHazard17feisty tomorrow!07:07
jza873i know i am on beta07:08
FireHazard17yeah07:08
FireHazard17beta07:08
dwidmannI think that's what it took anyway ... anything less and you were in for a long long wait ...07:08
jza873so imma run an update and bam all loaded07:08
jza873btu i been using feisty and its great07:08
dwidmannbeta heck, it's practically release candidate. I'm kinda @#$!#! though, can't get the nvidia-glx working since the last kernel update :\07:08
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jza873sorry for all the typpos the keyboard i have sucks bad07:08
jza873that sucks07:09
FireHazard17suuuuuurreee07:09
hitmanWillydwidmann, try a full purge of the -14 kernel07:09
hitmanWillyok, KDE+beryl & about 4 different apps running, 330 megs07:10
FireHazard17vista is a joke07:10
jza873its the downfall for windows07:10
FireHazard17no its not07:10
FireHazard17to most people ''its the best windows ever!''07:10
FireHazard17thats like being the best type of cancer07:11
FireHazard17yes i am comparing windows to cancer07:11
draremlol07:11
jza873last year mac at 4 percent of users by march they were at 12 windows holds about 65+ and linux and others for the rest but teh thjing is dell to sell linux and ppl hate vista so linux may become mroe popular because og crappy dell07:11
ScottLij_whats a "backup file" and why is there one for every text file on my desktop?07:11
jza873because it loves you07:11
apusi am having problem after problem07:11
apusa fesh install and nothing works07:12
jza873had that issue b407:12
dwidmannhitmanWilly: I'm purging a variety of things now ... figure I might as well give this one more shot before I pull my hair out :P07:12
jza873run an update07:12
FireHazard17cancer is probably better than vista07:12
apusI have07:12
jza873like what isnt working07:12
dwidmannFireHazard17: Comparing Vista to cancer is being a little too generous07:12
draremoh man..  you insult cancer, how dare you!07:12
apusamarok wont load, period, k3b cant burn cds,07:12
jza873yea be nice to cancer07:13
FireHazard17lol its true07:13
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FireHazard17dying is better than using a M$ product07:13
apusi've already fixed my ntfs volumes, automatix installation errors, not to mention it woudln't even install correctly for 3 hours07:13
Daisuke_Idoautomatix?  poor boy07:13
FireHazard17dying is releas by comparison07:13
Daisuke_Idowelp, BEDTIME!07:13
hitmanWilly!automatix07:13
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:13
apuswell, all of these problems occured before I touched automatix07:14
jza873hay put it to teh test do sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade07:14
MinatakuMore people tend to survive cancer than transitioning from Windows07:14
dwidmannRAther than cancer, compair it to, hemorrhoids or somerthing ..07:14
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Daisuke_Idonight Minataku07:14
FireHazard17lol my dog is snoring07:14
MinatakuMostly because they're too weak to make any effort (to transition from Windows)07:14
MinatakuNight, Daisuke_Ido07:14
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MinatakuFireHazard17: Poke him/her07:14
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MinatakuNot hard, gently07:14
FireHazard17i did she twitched07:15
MinatakuHeehee07:15
MinatakuGently poking sleeping things is fun07:15
FireHazard17lol07:15
dwidmannThe ultimate punishment ... Being sat in front of an old computer running windows ME on dialup07:15
hitmanWillya large, painful, annoying growth on ones anus that interferes with the running of ones daily life...hmm, i like it07:15
FireHazard17i couldn't imagine07:15
Minatakudwidmann: I dunno... Windows ME isn't that bad once you've used OpenServer07:15
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jza873apus see if the problem is the desktop manager install a new one liek afterstep07:16
FireHazard17"OpenServer"?07:16
MinatakuI got a copy that "fell off a truck", if you know what I mean07:16
apusyou guys can joke all you want, but im goibng through hell right now trying to do simple stuff07:16
MinatakuAnd I tested it out on an old laptop07:16
jza873install a new desktop manager and do a distro upgrade07:16
MinatakuI thought NeXT was a horrible Unix variant07:16
jza873haha you want fun install ion307:16
MinatakuHoo, SCO OpenServer is so much worse07:16
jza873and dont touch your mouse07:16
hitmanWillyi never liked afterstep07:17
MinatakuNot Afterstep07:17
MinatakuNeXTSTEP07:17
jza873afterstep is kewl kinda big07:17
apus when I tyep strace amarok it says "waitpid(8905, 0xbfe92c30, WNOHANG)      = 0" and  "nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0" over and over to infinity until I ctrl c07:17
jza873never tried nextstep07:17
dwidmannapus: it gets better :)07:17
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MinatakuI have NeXTSTEP/risc 3.3 on Usada, my SPARCstation 1007:17
Rictoo|SLPWhat time is it CST?07:17
Rictoo|SLPWhat time is it CST?07:17
apus12:1707:17
Rictoo|SLPAHHHH07:17
Rictoo|SLPok07:17
dwidmannCST? like, Central standard time?07:17
Rictoo|SLPthanks07:17
Rictoo|SLPyeah07:18
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jza873UTS07:18
FireHazard17whats wrong with openserver?07:18
MinatakuWed Apr 18 01:17:57 EDT 200707:18
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apusmy list is getting shorter, I need to be able to play mp3s, get amarok to actualy load, burn a cd with k3b, so that I can resisze my partition07:18
MinatakuFireHazard17: Well, if we ignore the huge fact that it's an SCO product07:18
MinatakuThere's the agressive license bitching07:18
jza873how do i set up remote access i want to be able to remote in to my computer from a static ip from  work07:18
MinatakuThere's the fact that it's really just a pretty poor product all around07:19
FireHazard17Minataku: so they're microsoft?07:19
dwidmannMinataku: ignore that fact? Impossible07:19
jza873unfortunally07:19
FireHazard17it ound like windows07:19
Minatakudwidmann: Well, yeah, I was asking quite a bit there07:19
FireHazard17sounds*07:19
dwidmannhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO07:19
FireHazard17"agressive license bitching" sounds just like windows07:20
FireHazard17as does bad product07:20
MinatakuNeedless to say, during my test I was literally afraid of putting that lappy on the network07:20
hitmanWillyim just curious if someone could get a look at the guts of windows, i'd bet some there's some GPL code in there somewhere, especially with how the vista release was rushed out the door07:21
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frank227aHello07:21
MinatakuThough I'm sure DHCP was an extra cost option nonetheless07:21
frank227aWhat permissions should a cups driver have?07:21
FireHazard17lmao07:21
frank227aA ppd file?07:21
MinatakuAs EVERYTHING tends to be on an SCO system07:21
dwidmannMinataku: that sounds painful.07:21
frank227a-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13086 2003-08-21 02:36 Lexmark-Z600-lxz600cj-cups.ppd07:21
MinatakuIt's still using the Unix licensing style from 197007:21
apusanyone want to try and help me fix the k3b issue?07:21
frank227aIt can not find this file when I go to use it.07:22
FireHazard17Minataku: why even use a SCO product?07:22
MinatakuWhere EVERYTHING cost a whole lot extra07:22
dwidmannThat's like saying. Okay, we're selling a house, an extra $4000 and we'll even throw in a roof07:22
MinatakuFireHazard17: That's just it. Nobody does anymore.07:22
jza873try this07:22
jza873apt-get source k3b07:22
jza873 apt-get build-dep k3b07:22
jza873 apt-get install libmad0 libmad0-dev07:22
jza873 cd k3b-0.11.2307:22
jza873 dpkg-buildpackage -tc07:22
jza873 dpkg -i ../k3b_0.11.23-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ../k3blibs_0.11.23-0ubuntu1_i386.deb07:22
apuswhat does all that do?07:22
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FireHazard17look at it07:23
jza873installs k3b with all packages07:23
hitmanWillyapus, it rebuilds the package from source07:23
FireHazard17yes07:23
Minatakudwidmann: I'd say more like "Buy the house for $100000, the floors for an extra $50000, walls are $75000, the ceiling is another $50000..." and so on07:23
FireHazard17and thats just the shell07:23
Minatakudwidmann: Notably, the compilers are an extremely costly add-on07:23
FireHazard17Minataku: you are kidding me07:23
jza873apus do this sudo apt-get remove k3b07:23
dwidmannNot really07:23
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jza873remove k3b and run that command i posted b407:24
MinatakuFireHazard17: No, that's pretty much accurate07:24
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FireHazard17Minataku: i only compile for fun07:24
MinatakuOf course to get prices similar to SCO's, reduce by one order of magnitude07:24
jza873compileing is fun07:24
dwidmannSCO are trying to leach money off the business they dont' have anymore by alleging that Linux stole from their OS ... they've been involved in either one large or a lot of small lawsuits with IBM if I remember right07:24
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FireHazard17Minataku: like audacity and ZSNES07:24
apusin the system settings under disks, it says the dvd drive is not enabled07:24
MinatakuFireHazard17: Yeah, well, on SCO, compiling for fun would run you around $500007:24
FireHazard17Minataku: thats sad07:25
jza873run a distro upgrade or probe your kernal07:25
apusis that an issue or is that normal?07:25
hitmanWillyapus: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?07:25
FireHazard17reinstall edgy07:25
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jza873im new to linux rember that but no one runs into more problems then me07:25
jza873install fiesty07:25
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jza873its got more driver support07:25
FireHazard17is it stable?07:25
jza873very07:25
FireHazard17ok install feisty07:26
hitmanWillythe release hits tommorrow, so iwould hope so :)07:26
FireHazard17true...07:26
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apushitmanwilly: i have no idea what that means07:26
jza873come on it comes out tomorrow im in beta but it runs soo great edgy kernal sucked because it wouldnt detect anything and i dont wont to compile a new one07:26
jza873so i went with the beta and bam found everything07:26
FireHazard17im using edgy...07:27
jza873any one use elink07:27
Minatakujza873: Just a note, it's spelled "kernel"07:27
FireHazard17elink?07:27
Minataku"KERNAL" was for old CBMs :307:27
dwidmannthat's always fun, adept just had to crash on me :\07:27
hitmanWillyapus, actually, i would reccomend the feisty install07:27
apusit is fiesty07:27
jza873i know liek i said i hate my keyboard i think they pushed the keys together to make me type messed up07:27
hitmanWillyapus, you're already on feisty? ok..07:28
MinatakuI think you just need to slow down and check your typing07:28
jza873i ordered a new one an old sun/unix keyboard with ibm style clicky keys07:28
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hitmanWillyapus: open up the file /etc/fstab with kate and copy the contents to the ubuntu pastebin07:29
jza873yea i could do that too07:29
MinatakuIf you think I type without errors, you're wrong, I just manage to catch them before they get out more often, lol07:29
hitmanWilly!paste | apus07:29
ubotuapus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:29
jza873?07:29
dwidmann!adeptfix07:29
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:29
apusjza873: you said to cd k3b... up there, where is that directory?07:30
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apusdoe sit matter that I get a "invalid input device" for a lot of commands "kate fstab"07:31
apusjza873 "cd k3b-0.11.23"07:31
apusdoesn't exists07:32
apushere is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16195/07:32
jza873usr / bin /k3b07:32
jza873cant paste slashes close to each other07:32
dwidmannjza873: you should be able to, j ust if you n eed the first character you type to be a /, you'll have to preceed it with a / (confusingly enough)07:33
apusk3b doesn't exist07:33
apusyou had me remove it07:33
jza873got it07:34
jza873one more how do you address someone i see when somoen types to me its in red hwo do you do that07:34
hitmanWillyapus, ok fstab looks alright07:35
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dsmithhi07:35
apuswell thats good07:35
dsmithanyone ever create thier own linux live cd?07:36
jza873create own liek custom make it or just burn a live cd from iso07:36
hitmanWillyapus, go into a terminal and type: sudo chmod a+rx /media/cdrom007:36
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DaphBobowhy isn;t Kmix speaker balance not working07:37
jza873#yo07:37
jza873dont click im just being stupid07:37
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dsmithlol07:37
apushitmanwilly: done07:38
dsmithno like create your own live cd07:38
hitmanWillyapus: did it return any errors?07:38
jza873someone tell me how to address people in irc liek you all do to me07:38
apusno07:38
dsmithjza873: like this?07:38
hitmanWillyapus, ok, good reinstall k3b and try it again07:38
jza873yes like that07:38
apusdsmith is there an easier way to do that other than typing the name07:38
jza873why you all gotta screw with me lol07:39
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dsmith screw with you. Hmmm, you dont say07:39
jza873i told you im new to all this so im learning and im think im learning very well07:39
hitmanWillyapus, what that did was allow read, write, and execute permissions on the cd rom drive07:40
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jza873dsmith: funny07:40
dsmith ok jza87307:40
jza873tell me how to do it07:40
apuswow07:40
apusi may have found a problem07:40
apusshouldn't it have updated k3b? the package manager07:41
hitmanWillyapus, what problem?07:41
dsmith ctrl-k07:41
apusbecause this is a newer version by a lot07:41
dsmithfor collors07:41
dsmith*colors07:41
jza873 i get it07:41
apusdsmith: he means how do you do wha tI just did to you07:41
dsmithbut to get someone's attention use the colon symbol after the nick07:41
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jza873thanks07:41
apusI told the package manager to update, and it did some updates, but k3b was 0.7 and not its 1.007:42
dwidmannwoo and yay ..... I've got the nvidia drivers working again, hooray .... stupid pains in the .... [insert mutting here] 07:42
dwidmann*muttering07:42
epod<DaphBobo/#Ubuntu-Offtopic> man #kubuntu is more off-topic than this channel <-- is this true?07:42
apuswhen I removed and refetched07:42
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dsmithdwidmann: nVidia drivers can be a pain07:42
hitmanWillyepod, sometimes :)07:43
epodhitmanWilly, nice, lol :)07:43
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hitmanWillyepod, there's a #kubuntu-offtopic channel too, but you can see the tumbleweeds roll through there :)07:43
jza873lol07:44
epodhehehe07:44
dwidmannIndeed07:44
apusokay hitmanwilly: burning complete, 1 problem down07:44
dwidmann#kubuntu-offtopic has about as much life as a desert07:44
hitmanWillyapus, good :)07:44
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hitmanWillydwidmann, yeah, that 14 kernel caused a lot of problems07:44
frank227aWhat is the website that will give you your dns?07:44
frank227ayour ip?>07:44
flaccidwhatismyip.com07:45
frank227awhatismyip.com?07:45
frank227aThank you07:45
flaccidyou already knew07:45
flaccidheh07:45
apusalright, I need to repartition using the cd I made, other than that, amarok doesn't work, and I cant play mp3s07:45
flacciddnsstuff.com and dnstools.com is cool too07:45
underdog5004!mp3 > apus07:45
frank227alol07:45
frank227abrb07:45
hitmanWillyapus, did you install the restricted codecs?07:45
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apusrestricted ?07:45
flaccidyes07:46
dwidmannI know ways to get whatismyip.com to lie to you :) I was playing around with tor the other day ... neat stuff07:46
jza873lol07:46
hitmanWillydwidmann, there's always a proxy :)07:46
flaccidlie as in proxy ?07:46
hitmanWillygo through one07:46
jza873well since this topic came up07:46
hitmanWillyor ipmasq07:46
flaccidyou can script it so it gets either the proxy ip or client ip or both. but maybe they havnt done that07:47
dsmithlol07:47
jza873got any ideas how to do remote access throug linux i want to be able to access my computer from work and i have a static ip07:47
hitmanWillyjza873, research ssh07:47
dsmithI use to trick broadband speed test to show higher when it wasnt'07:47
flaccid!vnc > jza87307:47
dsmithyou just hit refresh07:47
epodjza873, vnc or nomachine, or ssh07:47
dsmith23000kbps07:48
dsmithor some insane #07:48
dsmithanyways...07:48
flaccidheh thats some bad dev07:48
dwidmanndsmith: !!!07:48
apusshould I remove automatix fist?07:48
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dsmithdwidmann: !!!07:48
dwidmann23000kbps ... I want some :(07:48
dsmithwasn't real relax07:49
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hitmanWillyapus, automatix is a piece of junk07:49
dwidmannreal or not, I still want some07:49
apusok07:49
jza873what is automatrix07:49
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dsmithautomatix has it uses I think07:49
hitmanWillymaybe...07:49
underdog5004Ok, I've got one for whoever wants it: I want my server to have a static ip, so I edited /etc/network/interfaces to reflect that, static, then I assigned all the stuff (netmask, gateway, etc...). When I did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, the settings applied, but when I rebooted my router, my server had a new ip...07:49
flaccidwell 24mbps is dsl2+..07:49
dwidmann!automatix | jza87307:49
ubotujza873: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:49
hitmanWillythere's better ways, though07:49
dsmithi know Willy07:49
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jza873glad i didnt get it then07:50
flaccidunderdog5004: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces07:50
hitmanWillyapus: yes, feel free to remove automatix07:50
flaccidunderdog5004: what is the router?07:50
jza873the router is a giant dog that eats baremanpigs07:50
jza873no for real its a networking device07:51
underdog5004http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16199/07:51
apushow do I remove it? sudo apt-get remove automatix?07:51
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underdog5004flaccid, it's a USR 5461 router07:51
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hitmanWillyapus: i doubt that would work, probably have to use dpkg07:52
apushow?07:52
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flaccidso how could a reboot of the router affect your server07:52
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hitmanWillyapus dpkg --purge automatix07:53
hitmanWillyapus dpkg --purge automatix.deb, sorry07:53
flaccidunderdog5004: output of ps aux | grep dhclient07:53
flaccidpls07:53
dwidmannhitmanWilly: I think you were probably right the first time07:53
hitmanWillydwidmann, doesn't dpkg need the actual deb name?07:54
underdog5004http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16200/07:54
apusyou must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in07:54
underdog5004hitmanWilly, I'm kinda an expert w/ automatix...what's the problem?07:54
dwidmannhitmanWilly: for installing yes, for removing no07:54
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hitmanWillydwidmann, ok, noted07:54
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hitmanWillyapus, try the first thing i said07:55
flaccidunderdog5004: sudo kill -9 3671 && sudo /etc/network/interfaces restart07:55
apusdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove automatix which isn't installed.07:55
flaccidunderdog5004: dhclient was still running in background..07:55
hitmanWillyapus, ok, don't worry about it then07:55
jza87312/21/201207:55
underdog5004flaccid, darn...thanks!07:55
jza873interesting we are all suppose to die then07:55
hitmanWillyapus sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras07:56
flaccidnp07:56
dwidmannwhat happens on 12/21/2012?07:56
apusfor future reference "sudo apt-get remove automatix2"07:56
flacciddwidmann: nothing because there is no 21st month07:56
jza873go to wikipedia and type in time wave zero its the historical endpoint07:56
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underdog5004jza873, you believe in that?07:56
jza873no07:57
dwidmannflaccid, in some countries the day and month are the other way around, like the US for example07:57
jza873i only beleive in what i see07:57
underdog5004me neither07:57
underdog5004Although I do have faith in God07:57
flacciddwidmann: i know that. its not logical :)07:57
underdog5004but that's not very on-topic07:57
jza873but ill tell you something i dont read but i been reading this book CYBERIA nad its very interesting07:57
flaccidwhat is on topic these days heh07:57
jza873pretty much all about drugs and experiences but very interesting07:57
hitmanWillyapus, so you got it to remove? good07:58
apusand its working on the install of what you typed07:58
apusI love how typing things gets me programs07:58
Hc\how can i lock this?07:58
hitmanWillyapus, that will install all of your proprietary codecs07:58
hitmanWillyapus: ie mp3, flash, java, etc07:59
Hc\in the way that applications remains running?07:59
Hc\ok07:59
Hc\i got it :D07:59
underdog5004anyone tried out foresight linux?08:00
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jza873never even herd of it08:00
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, never even heard ...08:00
dwidmannHmm, in Feisty's Konqueror, does anyone else notice the bookmark toolbar loading horribly terribly slow?08:00
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underdog5004just found it w/ stumbleupon...d/ling the dvd iso now...08:00
apusthe most entertaining way to test flash sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras08:00
jza873no i dont have that issue08:00
apusoops08:00
apushere we go, the most entertaining way to test flash http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bells.htm08:00
dsmithforesight, I saw the that in a mapping of linux08:01
underdog5004www.foresightlinux.org08:01
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dwidmann(horribly terribly slow = a second or two, but noticable ... worse if using the vesa drivers (as opposed to the nvidia drivers)08:01
dsmithI use stumble as well :)08:01
ybottjza873, Type in what at wikipedia?08:01
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jza873time wave zero08:02
hitmanWillyapus, that's kind cool08:02
apuswell I have no sound from the mp308:02
ybottnovelty theory comes up..is that it?08:02
apusbut I did get sounds when booting up08:02
jza873yes you got it08:03
jza873ctrl+f it08:03
underdog5004apus, you may need to configure your media player to use the right sound engine08:03
apuswhat media player should I use08:03
ybottThat the date of this historical endpoint is December 21, 2012, the end of the long count of the Mayan calendar.08:03
apusnotice hte odd number of 1s and 2s in that date08:04
apus12:21 pm?08:04
apusno sound from firefox either08:04
jza873lol i thought i was crazy for thinking that08:04
hitmanWillyapus, open up kmix08:05
underdog5004apus, make sure ALSA is selected...which media player are you using?08:05
underdog5004anyway, I'm going to bed...got a gf to cuddle with.08:05
apusvlc to test, amarok wont load08:05
underdog5004adios!08:05
jza873ybott: download the free pdf cyberia interesting stuff08:05
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ybottOne thing I have found out, it is entirely impossible for me to install a belkin wireless g router in kubuntu.08:06
jza873belkin sucks thats y08:06
ybottI had to uninstall the operating system, due to not being able to install it. That sucked.08:06
ybottI had to put windows back on here to get online.08:06
ybottheh.08:06
jza873why do you have to install the router cant you just type in the gateway ip for teh configuration08:06
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apusvlc playes avi, but no sound08:07
ybottI think I tried everything.08:07
ubdhow do i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?08:07
jza873i have a netgear and never installed anything just type in your gateway08:07
ybottjza873, You know kubuntu really well?08:07
jza873sudo apt-get install enlightenment08:07
hitmanWillyapus, run kmix and make sure nothing's muted08:07
dsmith192.168.1.1.08:07
dsmithadmin:admin08:08
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dsmith:)08:08
ybottyea, I know my gateway...08:08
jza873no i dont actually belkin is on 0.108:08
apusoh nelly08:08
apusit was using my onbaord audio08:08
hitmanWillydsmith, mine sits on 0.1, but yeah08:08
jza873no my bad 2.108:08
dsmither wait maybe its 192.168.0.108:08
ybottyea its 192.168.2.108:08
dsmithyes thats it08:08
ubdhow do i add enlightenment option to KUBUNTU login screen?08:08
jza873sorry all new belkins are on 192.168.2.108:08
ubdlol08:08
jza873because they conflict with zyxels'08:08
apusapparently my chaintech has 11 outputs08:08
ybottI could connect to the router, but could never connect to the internet.08:09
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hitmanWillyand admin:password on a netgear08:09
jza873yup08:09
jza873do you have dsl or cable08:09
dsmithi'm thinking linksys08:09
ybottjza873, cable08:09
jza873linksys sucks08:09
dsmithhaah08:09
apusyes linksys sucks, I have 4 dead ones08:09
jza873unless you load linux on it other wise it over flows too ofter08:09
apusand netgear, and dlink, they all suck08:09
ybottmy manual says the belkin would work with linux08:10
ybottbut there was no hope for me.08:10
dsmithtoss in M$ while your at it08:10
jza873on powercycle you cable router and then go int rour router and run a release and renew and then do a ping to google fomr tehe router08:10
apusybott, routers should be completely independent of your os08:10
Cosmo_talking about routers?08:10
jza873routers are08:10
ybottthey should be08:10
jza873they are completely independent08:10
Cosmo_buffalo routers are good08:10
jza873buffalo are expensive08:10
Cosmo_but worth it08:11
apuspfsense routers are good!08:11
dsmithbuffalo, are yummy08:11
AmyRoseBut they taught me in school that only Cisco is good :P08:11
apusstill no sound, who wants to help?08:11
jza873good routers are 3com acatel08:11
dsmithCisco, subsidized your school08:11
ybottapus, so tell me why I could never get a connection then?08:11
jza873cisco are complicated08:11
dsmithoverly so08:11
apusbad router08:11
Cosmo_I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?08:12
apusor bad nic08:12
jza873thus the reason i liek 3com08:12
ybottits working now...with winxp08:12
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apuswas the nic set up right?08:12
jza873winxp stop swearing its not polite08:12
dsmithCosmo, dont know that one08:12
dsmithLOL08:12
ybottjza873, heh.08:12
apusrouters work with everything, xboxs, print servers, etc, os doesn't matter08:12
dsmithget a cheap dell 720 printer, made my lexmark, Linux drivers work08:12
Hc\!java Hc\08:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java hc\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
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hitmanWilly!java > Hc\08:13
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jza873cursed im installing evil java now08:14
ybottI was loving ubuntu, but net i hated that.08:14
hitmanWillywell, i gotta go, work tommorrow :(08:14
jza873what the apt-get for java08:15
apusif I have 2 sound cards how do I tell it which one to use08:15
ybottWhen using a wireless router is anything saved into it....does it get used to running on windows...and have to be reset to boot on linux?08:15
ybottheh.08:15
apusybott: no08:15
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pollyoHello08:16
pollyoHow can I determine if an isp is blocking a port?08:16
jza873call them08:16
jza873what prot08:16
jza873port*08:16
ybottapus, i'll tell ya what. i start up with kubuntu....connect without using the wireless modem, and start desktop sharing, and you can set it up and show me how? Got time?08:16
jza873isp's usually all block the sme port08:16
pollyo8008:16
apuspollyo: do a google search for a port scan service08:16
jza873cant block 8008:16
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apusybott, I am having problems getting kubuntu to even work at the moment08:17
jza87380 is for http or internet access08:17
pollyoWhat does a webserver run on ?08:17
ybottapus, ah, I see.08:17
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jza873idk pick one08:17
ybottAnybody on here an expert that could do that with no prob?08:17
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jza873experts get paid08:17
ybottheh08:17
ybottwell?08:17
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ybottI swear I have spent over 20 hours trying to set it up...08:18
ybotti'm tired of it.08:18
ybottneed help ;P08:18
Hc\umm, how can i accept a licence agreement? im installing java08:18
jza873grr im doing java too i forget the apt-get for it08:19
jza873java is a pain08:19
xushijust scroll through the few tens of pages of license pretending you're reeding it, and accept it in the end08:19
Hc\ye08:19
jza873ohh yea08:19
Hc\got it now08:19
jza873i for got08:19
Hc\it didnt respond me08:19
Hc\now i got it =)08:19
Hc\sry for interrupting08:19
Hc\!flash | Hc\08:20
jza873flash is so easy comapred to java08:22
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apuscan someone help me with asoundconf08:23
apusIm trying to tell it wich sound card to use08:23
pollyoIt appears that port 80 is closed and completely invisible to the outside world.  I suspect that the isp can block that port.08:23
apuscan you go to websites pollyo?08:25
jza873u using a router08:26
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underdog5004lol, gf is asleep, no more cuddling required08:35
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pollyoIs the java-6-plugin something one should have for firefox?08:36
pollyoIt says for mozilla in the repository.08:36
pollyoI'm still not sure how different that would be from firefox.08:36
underdog5004pollyo, if you want to use java, I would install it.08:37
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pollyoOk08:37
Cosmo_on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?08:38
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pollyoI'm impressed with how synaptic handles the licensing for java while adept seems to have trouble with such installs.08:40
pollyoI hope that is something they are working on in adept.08:40
underdog5004adept and synaptic are both frontends for Apt08:41
Cosmo_I like synaptic08:41
mackymanI heard something about adept beeing removed in feisty, anyone else heard something about this?08:41
underdog5004me too08:41
underdog5004^  @ Cosmo_08:42
pollyomackyman: Have not idea.  All I can say is that it installed on my system.08:42
Hc\boot08:42
jza873nope adept is still here08:42
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apusalright! session 2 of troubleshooting08:43
jza873later imma go to bed08:43
apuspeeps, I have 2 soundcards, and I dont think programs are using the right one08:43
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apusand by that, I mean they are using the wrong one, I just tested it08:44
cytmackyman: We cat get the answer tomorrow ;) # about the adept isue08:45
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mackymancyt: Yep =)08:46
mackymanLast day of Edgyness here =)08:46
pollyoWhat would they put in its place?08:46
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mackymanThere where another program instead... I dunno...08:46
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nbcbanyone knows how to find out the last ip address that ssh log into?08:47
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mackymannbcb: Do you mean the last you connected to?08:48
krautmoin08:48
Briareos1sometimes when i boot my 2 sound devices are in different order: usually the one is /dev/dsp and the other one /dev/dsp1 but sometimes its the other way around. Why is this and what can i do about that?08:48
Briareos1moin08:48
nbcbyeah or the history of addresses i make connections to08:49
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nbcbassuming there is no bash history..08:49
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nbcbi thought it would be at /home/x/.ssh/known_host but its all encrypted08:49
mackymanChecked the /var/log dir?08:49
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pollyoAnyone familiar with medibuntu?08:52
Tm_Tpollyo: doing poll?08:52
Tm_Tpollyo: if you need help, just ask your question ;)08:52
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mackymanmedibuntu? Haven't even heard of...08:52
mackymanFor media station?08:52
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pollyoTm_T: I went to install something and it said am I sure with a warning about trusted sites.08:53
Tm_Tand?08:53
underdog5004mackyman, no, for doctors08:53
underdog5004MEDIcal UBUNTU08:53
mackymanhaha08:53
mackymanRight... *sceptical*08:54
Tm_They kids, you're not very helpful ;)08:54
Tm_T!medibuntu08:54
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/08:54
Tm_Tpollyo: what is your question?08:54
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pollyoTm_T: I suspect my first question has to be How does one determine a trusted site?08:55
nbcbwhat's the best way to monitor and block websites for a server hosting serveral clients? like block msn etc08:55
Tm_Tpollyo: with a key08:55
Briareos1or asked in a different way: how does linux determine which soundcard gets which device file?08:55
Tm_Tpollyo: I think all is explained in medibuntu site :)08:55
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pollyoTm_T: I'll take another look at the website.08:55
pollyoTm_T: I was looking at the Repository Howto.  Let me check again to make sure I didn't miss somethign.08:56
Tm_Tpollyo: if you can't find it, slap me and I try to help (not good explaining things)08:56
K`zanAnyone know how to inset a carrage return in a regular expression?08:56
pollyoTm_T: Didn't see anything on the Repository Howto Link.08:57
Tm_Tnbcb: iptables08:57
Tm_Tpollyo: and that medibuntu site?08:57
pollyoTm_T: 216.15.101.3308:57
pollyoOpps..wrong one08:57
Tm_T=)08:57
nbcb!firewall08:57
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:57
pollyoTm_T: 216.15.101.3308:57
pollyoDid it again..08:57
nbcbTm_T: is iptables a firewall?08:58
pollyomedibuntu.sos-sts.com08:58
Tm_Tnbcb: yes08:58
Tm_Tpollyo: yes, does that contain any info?08:58
nbcbis there a GUI for kde for iptables? i08:58
pollyoTm_T: Just a simply how to but it does not discuss this trusted issue.08:58
pollyoTm_T: Nor any mention of a key08:58
Briareos1can you recommend any channel for getting an answer about my soundproblem?08:58
Tm_Tpollyo: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php08:58
Tm_TBriareos1: check help.ubuntu.com and Gentoo wiki08:59
Tm_Tpollyo: it's very first part in that page ;)08:59
pollyoTm_T: Oh my!  I was reading that as a link for 6.06 .08:59
pollyoTm_T: Thanks.09:00
nbcbmy connection now is , dsl modem (to outside world) <--> server with dhcp server <--> the rest of the computers .. the gateway of the rest of the computers are set to the dsl modem's ip.. does firewall still worksS?09:00
Tm_Tnbcb: why not09:00
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mackymanBriareos1: Is one soundcard built in and the other is a PCI one?09:02
nbcbok.. so it doesn't matter where the gateway is set? i thought gateway should be set to the server's ip09:02
flaccidthe gateway for clients on the LAN is usually going to be the LAN NIC IP of the server which has the WAN NIC09:03
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Tm_Tnbcb: IIRC it's enough if it's between users and "the world"09:03
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nbcbic..but now my clients gateway is set directly to the WAN (dsl modem's ip) .. can my iptable still work?09:04
flaccidwell that shounds like you have bridged it09:05
crazy_penguinhello all!09:05
Briareos1mackyman: one is on-board and one is usb09:05
Tm_Tif data goes through firewall...09:05
mackymanBriareos1: wich one do you wich to use?09:05
flaccidbut yes it will still work if your firewall rules are not ip based, but interface based09:05
nbcbyeah.. seems like my clients just jump over to the internet although they get their ip from my server which runs dhcp server09:05
flaccidyou can always test09:06
Briareos1mackyman: basically both - for example the onboard should be for amarok and stuff - and the USB (is a headset) for teamspeak09:06
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Tm_Tif physically data connections go thru server, it's all about server settings then09:06
Briareos1mackyman: all that stuff usually works, but the problem is, that sometimes suddenly the device-files correspond to another device09:06
mackymanBriareos1: Ahhh, then I understand your dilemma... I thought you just wanted to use one09:07
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Briareos1mackyman: nah :)09:07
Briareos1mackyman: usually onboard is /dev/dsp and USB is /dev/dsp109:07
mackymanBriareos1: Smart thinking thou09:07
Briareos1mackyman: but this time i booted it was the other way around; i am sure if i reboot it will be okay again - but i don't want to09:07
mackymanWhy reboot? ;)09:08
Tm_TBriareos1: maybe it's about which device has module first loaded09:08
Briareos1mackyman: I've searched on that topic long enough and now I want a solution that holds forever :)09:08
mackymanBriareos1: Understand that09:08
nbcbdsl modem (x.x.x.1) <--> server (x.x.x.201) <--> clients (x.x.x.205) , gateway for client = x.x.x.1..09:09
Briareos1Tm_T hmm could be - but why should that suddenly change?09:09
mackymanBriareos1: Plug in the usb soundcard after boot? =P09:09
nbcbon my server i can configure firewall right? if so i'll try..09:09
flaccidi gtg09:09
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Tm_TBriareos1: upstart load stuff parallel, so if one "line" is somehow slower...09:09
Tm_Tnbcb: sure you can09:09
Briareos1mackyman: thats even more motion for my tired body than doin a reboot with a hit of a finger :P09:09
nbcbok!! shall try :>09:09
mackymanheh09:10
nbcb!iptables09:10
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:10
dettoaltrimenti_i have an external hard drive, and I'm deleting a lot of stuff from it, but it's going into the trash of the harddrive inside my computer- is there any way to completely delete it without sending it to the trash?09:10
Briareos1Tm_T hmm okay - so any suggestions how i could solve that?09:10
Briareos1Tm_T could i do something in uvdev (or how that thing is named)?09:10
mackymanBriareos1: Then I'm way out of answers09:11
Briareos1udev i mean09:11
Briareos1mackyman thx anyway :)09:11
Tm_TBriareos1: hmm, blacklist usb card module and load it with delay in init 5 (or whatever it is) perhaps?09:11
Tm_TBriareos1: actually you can forget delay =)09:11
Briareos1Tm_T gg why?09:11
mackymanBriareos1: np09:12
Briareos1Tm_T i wonder why ... or better if there is an "easy end-user-solution" to this - i guess i am not the only one with it .....09:12
Tm_Twell, when you hit init 5 you have done all "booting" from system point of view09:12
Tm_TBriareos1: and I know this is bit hacky one idea, but I don't have to deal with boot stuff myself so no idea for neater solution09:12
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Briareos1Tm_T well at least its a nice hint :)09:13
MajorApusokay so I restarted kubuntu and I get a blank screen when x boots09:13
MajorApusit happened earlier, it also happened with gpart live cd09:13
MajorApusbut I did use force vesa with gpart09:14
Tm_TMajorApus: so it's driver issue?09:14
MajorApusand that worked, so I think I need to force vesa drivers with kubuntu09:14
MajorApusi think so09:14
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Tm_TMajorApus: what display driver you have?09:14
MajorApusnv09:14
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MajorApusis that the correct answeR?09:15
mackymanMajorApus: yep09:15
mackymanMajorApus: Have you done: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2909:16
MajorApusalright I will do that once I get back into it09:17
MajorApusI can do that from recovery mode?09:17
mackymanDo you have links installed?09:17
mackymanYou can just do it by using ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a virtual console and run the commands from there09:18
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workinprocess<- needs help09:19
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mackymanand if you don't have another computer to view the guide on, then you can use links to view it one another consle ( ctrl + alt + f2 )09:19
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mackymanworkinprocess: what kind of help?09:20
mackymanMajorApus: Does that help?09:21
MajorApusI am printing it09:21
mackymanahh09:21
mackymankk09:21
MajorApusI cant get into X at all,09:21
mackymanpoint09:21
MajorApusso how could I even visit a website?09:22
mackymanLinks09:22
MajorApusoh09:22
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MajorApuswell i will try09:22
mackymanwith links you can surf in the terminal or in a virtual console09:22
MajorApusbrb09:22
mackymanHave helped me very much09:22
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dettoaltrimenti_mackyman do you mean elinks09:22
mackymandettoaltrimenti_: I usually use links or links2'09:23
mackymandettoaltrimenti_: majority of links2, never used elinks09:24
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fdovingI_Web_: what is it you're trying to do?09:26
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workinprocessI need some help installing a belkins wireless g esb adapter on ubuntu. can anyone help me?09:26
reldruhhello. I'm trying to get an hp apollo p-2500 printer setup. According to linuxprinting.org it's fully supported under linux but when I try to add it there's no driver listed for it specifically, nor can I find the hpijs driver linuxprinting.org recommends. Can somebody help?09:26
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workinprocessI'm a newb in ubuntu. so I need some specific step by step instructions09:27
reldruhworkinprocess: I can try and help you09:27
apusalright that worked09:27
apusthanks tm_t09:27
fdovingworkinprocess: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:28
reldruhworkinprocess: if it's a usb adapter, go into konsole and run the command lsusb. See if you can find it in the list09:28
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Tm_Tapus: what did I do?09:29
pollyoI like that firestarter program.  It appears much simpler then guarddog in design.09:30
pollyoCan I use that on kubuntu even though it is for gnome?09:30
Cosmo_in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?09:30
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unix_infidelpollyo: i'd imagine so.09:30
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pollyoI'm going to give it a try and uninstall guarddog if it goes well.09:31
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apusim trying to mount my ntfs in a different location, so Im trying to unmount them, it wont let me09:33
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Admiral_Chicagoapus: how are you unmounting it09:33
nbcberr i need some help on iptables .. i typed iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 192.168.2.1 and now my server can't go internet09:33
apusright clicking in conquerer and clicking unmount09:33
nbcb192.168.2.1 is my modem's ip09:33
nbcbhow to revert?09:34
Admiral_Chicagoapus: something may be using it, amarok may be playing music or something09:34
Admiral_Chicagoare you sure nothing is using it?09:34
apusnothing is using it09:35
apusI did run ntfs configuration tool09:35
Admiral_Chicagoapus: open up konsole. sudo umount -a09:35
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Admiral_Chicagopastebin the output09:35
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mackymanpollyo: You can use firestarter, but you have too install some gnome librarys09:35
Cosmo_is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?09:35
apusit said device is busy for all mounts09:36
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ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal09:36
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Admiral_Chicagoapus: only that?09:37
apusfor each device is said the directory or device is busy, thats it09:38
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nbcbhow to revert back my iptables default settings?09:39
Admiral_Chicagoyes, but the output is what I need.09:39
apus!paste | apus09:39
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apushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16213/09:39
Admiral_Chicagosudo nano /etc/fstab09:40
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Admiral_Chicagochange the directory you want09:40
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Admiral_Chicagofdoving: thanks09:40
fdoving:)09:40
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Admiral_Chicagothen ctrl + O, enter, ctrl + X09:41
space_ninjaI need a 3d model program but I can't find autocad, is there another program like that available for kubuntu?09:41
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nbcb!iptables09:41
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:41
Admiral_Chicagothen sudo mount -a09:41
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apusthanks,09:43
apusadept updater says I have 260 some updates available, should I update all?09:43
Admiral_Chicagowhen was the last time you updated?09:43
apusi just installed 7.04 today09:43
Admiral_Chicagoah then I would say yes09:43
Admiral_Chicagoand to be fair, you installed a release candidate :)09:44
apusit just seemed like a lot of things, didn't know if it was stuff I didn't even have09:45
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mackyman!autocad > mackyman09:46
apusthe fstab file looks correct, but changes didn't take effect09:46
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pollyoHow do you setup remote console with ssh?09:48
pollyoOr is it already setup on ubuntu?09:48
Cosmo_is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?09:49
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fdovingpollyo: yoou need to have the 'ssh-server' package installed to provide the remote login service via ssh.09:50
apuswill the fstab file only take effect after a reset09:50
Admiral_Chicagoapus: sudo mount -a will do the same thing, unless there is an error09:51
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pollyofdoving: Thank you09:51
SanjeetYo.09:52
twentyafterfourHello kubuntu,  world09:53
Cosmo_in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?09:53
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twentyafterfourcosmo: did you have both monitors plugged in when you turned the system on?  ....check connections.09:54
Cosmo_twentyafterfour: yes I did09:55
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apushow do I remove a directory09:55
Sanjeetrmdir09:55
apusim supose to know that for school09:56
Cosmo_I had just rebooted from windows where I had both monitors working this time09:56
Sanjeetapus: Have a cookie.09:56
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apusman pages arn't usefull if you dont know the command name :P09:57
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apusbesides, I can hide behind my noob status for a good 3 months09:57
Sanjeet[03:55:23] <Sanjeet>rmdir09:58
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twentyafterfourcosmo - both of them used to work on ubuntu as well?  I have nvidia as well but I usually don't use the settings manager because it makes lame xorg.conf files - you might want to look for a backup file - there are usually several versions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - one of the backups might work correctly.09:58
Sanjeetrmdir -r directoryname will force removal of the directory, even if files exist09:58
apuswow, amarok apparently has no problem opening two instances and playing the song twice, off sync, because I still double click09:59
Sanjeetapus: XMMS!09:59
apuswell luckily for me it was empty09:59
apusxmms?09:59
apussanjeet, do you use konversation09:59
twentyafterfourstrange. heh. you can turn of the single-click activation if you don't like it09:59
apusI might get used to it, we will see10:00
apusIm hard core XP fan, i have it tweaked out to no end10:00
apusim big on having things exactly how I want them and what not10:00
apuswhy did I switch?...   .... beryl10:00
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twentyafterfourI'm still not too sure. It seems to make selecting much difficult - I usually like to click, then shift-click to select a bunch of files.10:01
unix_infidelapus: i switched because of fluxbox.10:01
unix_infidel:P10:01
twentyafterfourapus: wmii10:01
twentyafterfouryou know, beryl is awesome, still gives me trouble sometimes, but it's nice. regardless, it's mostly eyecandy10:01
apusnot familar with what fluxbox looks like10:02
Sanjeetapus, I don't.10:02
apusactually the 4 desktop around a cube, makes it more intiutive10:02
Sanjeetapus: XMMS is a great media platyer10:02
twentyafterfourfluxbox is simple I think10:02
apusdo you hand type my name each time?10:02
apuswmii?10:02
unix_infideli think most nix fanboys are basically unattuned to the way the OS was designed to be used.10:02
SanjeetSo people know it's directed at you.10:02
Sanjeetand your client should beep10:03
unix_infideland ignorant to the way the OS's direction is pointed.10:03
Sanjeetunix_infidel: Shut the hell up.10:03
SanjeetYou're just looking for a fight.10:03
twentyafterfourwmii is a totally different kind of window manager - ugly and simple unlike beryl10:03
SanjeetThis is #kubuntu, not ##linux or #*nix fanboys10:03
unix_infidelSanjeet: them is fightin words.10:04
Sanjeetunix_infidel: I have anger. It either gets unleashed on you or Oracle.10:04
Sanjeetor I fall asleep because it's 4am10:04
unix_infidelSanjeet: lol @ Oracle10:04
twentyafterfourfanboyism10:04
twentyafterfourwhere is that channel10:04
SanjeetNo idea.10:05
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apusnice all my hdds mounted10:05
unix_infidelSanjeet: convince your CTO to upgrade to a real DBMS10:05
unix_infidel:P10:05
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apusis konquerer the main file browser?10:06
Sanjeetunix_infidel: it's a personal choice. Just takes a hell of a long time to get all the stuff up and running10:06
Admiral_Chicagoapus: yes.10:06
SanjeetI love Oracle, we're just having some issues right now.10:06
unix_infidelour stuff has too many dimensions to use a simple relational system.10:06
unix_infidelglad i dont have to admin :)10:07
Sanjeetheh10:07
SanjeetWhat RDBMS do you use?10:07
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apusanything wrong with putting music on the slowest drive on the system?10:07
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unix_infidelapus: no, its advised.10:07
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unix_infidelmusic usually takes up less than 256kbps10:08
unix_infidelin bw10:08
apuscool, I formated that drive fat32 to be my transfer drive if necessary10:08
apusand then realized, music is good on any os10:08
unix_infidelSanjeet: 10g10:08
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unix_infidelapus: personally, i like my music on fat3210:08
unix_infidelits easily accessible on any os.10:08
Sanjeetunix_infidel: And do you hate it?10:08
apusso I could do this with a gui, or I could be all cool high technically (super paper mario reference) and use konsoel10:08
SanjeetI like 10G10:09
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unix_infidelSanjeet: no, but i dont get paid to make it work either.10:09
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mackymanapus: I will have my music on a special server, only for my music, so that i don't have to take up valuble disk-space for it (grumbles at my way to big music collection )10:09
SanjeetI'm already there. It's quite silent.10:09
apushow do I "cd" based on root, rather than current directory10:09
Sanjeetcd /place/10:09
apushow much mackyman10:10
Sanjeetcd /usr/bin/10:10
apusokay so the leading / is the trick10:10
SanjeetI think so.10:10
mackyman~30gb =/10:10
Sanjeett10:10
Sanjeetkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ] 010:10
Sanjeetmkj10:10
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apusand I just regretted using caps for the drive names,10:10
Sanjeetz m10:10
flaccidyeah / makes it absolute ./ and ../ are relative10:10
apusthats not too bad macky10:10
SanjeetWhoops.10:10
SanjeetDozing off...10:10
apusI have 250 gigs of tv shows and movies....that I own legally10:10
Sanjeeto.O10:10
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unix_infidelapus: that's quite a lot in "legal" media10:10
twentyafterfourln -s /CAPS_NAME /lowercase_name10:11
mackymanapus: I guess this duscussion belongs in offtopic =P10:11
mackymanAye, back to work anyway10:11
mackymanbbl10:11
apusa friend of mine said he will start to buy dvds legit once we get jobs, (we are in college) but he will still rip them to lossless avi files, because he doesn't like watching the intro you cant skip on a dvd player10:11
flaccidlets stay on topic10:12
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Sanjeetflaccid: What the hell "on topic" are we gonna talk about?10:13
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apushow do I safely purge my fstab i have some duplicate entries10:13
SanjeetThe detraction is a good indication of the fact that Linux isn't actually that interesting at 4am10:13
Sanjeetapus: By hand?10:13
fdovingSanjeet: if ther is nothing, then please don't talk.10:13
twentyafterfouryeah ...  how broad is acceptable, without straying? isn't "Kubuntu" a pretty vague topic?10:13
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flaccidits called idling10:13
apusis there a command sanjeet?10:13
fdovingtwentyafterfour: the topis is not "kubuntu", it's "Kubuntu support".10:14
Sanjeetfdoving: "A fool speaks when he has to say something, a wise man speaks when he has something to say"10:14
Admiral_Chicagoour channel's topic begins "Kubuntu Support Channel"10:14
flaccidapus: edit it with a text editor. sudo nano /etc/fstab10:14
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apuscringe at nano10:14
apuskate all the way man10:14
apusberyl, package manager, and kate10:14
apusthats why i switched10:14
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fdovingSanjeet: right, but the wise man states his opinions in the right places too.10:14
flaccidwell you don't compare a gui to a tui10:14
Sanjeetfdoving: Why am I proving YOUR point?10:14
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flaccidi use kate all day at work.10:15
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flaccidhehe10:15
apusif I remove entries from fstab, then go to the disk utility, i can redo it right?10:16
flaccidyeah you can add / remove entries in fstab whenever10:16
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fdovingapus: it's often smart to use # in the beginning of lines instead of removing them. that way it's easier to get back to the one tha worked.10:16
flaccidyou can unmount drivers using umount and you can mount all in fstab by mount -a or just mount a single drive in fstab: mount /mnt/mountpoint10:16
apus# is comment in system files?10:17
flacciddrivers=drives10:17
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flaccidmost will use # has a comment. sometimes ;10:17
flaccidhas=as10:17
apusim a flast learner you watch out10:17
flaccidim watching10:17
flaccid:)10:18
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apuswe use linux for class (aerospace engineering) but its a bad set up of redhat10:18
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apusjust to give you an idea, its dual core hyperthreading xeons10:18
apusbut a single thread can only use 25% cpu10:18
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apusthats not normal is it?10:19
flaccidi don't know. it has nothign to do with kubuntu10:19
twentyafterfourfdoving: thanks10:21
unix_infidelapus: are you using a smp kernel?10:21
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unix_infidelare your applications built optimized for your procs?10:21
apusI wouldn't know, those are lab computers, but they arn't optimized10:22
flaccidand they are running redhat lol?10:22
apuswe run single threaded fortran, but the system sees the hyperthreaded core as 2 cores10:22
apusyes flaccid10:22
flaccidsounds pretty uncutting edge to me10:23
apusso it sees 4 cores, thus 25% cpu ussage, it sucks10:23
unix_infidellol @ fortran10:23
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apusfortran has its place actually10:23
apusbut yeah its funny10:23
unix_infideli'm sure it does.10:23
flaccidit did have its place. correction.10:23
apus"what language do you know"  "fortran" .... .... *crickets*   "wtf is fortran"10:23
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flaccidthey probably are not using a SMP kernel little lone any kernel flags/optimisation10:23
apusactually it still does flaccid, it is the fastest number cruncher10:23
flaccidthat is very arguable10:24
unix_infidelwell, they do make some very good wrappers.10:24
flaccidin fact that is wrong, but since this is #kubuntu i won't waste my breathe10:24
apuswrong? whats faster10:24
flaccidmaybe discuss it in #fortran10:24
unix_infideli think we're about to be jedi'd10:24
flaccidor #redhat10:24
apusplease dont say a language that uses pointers10:24
flaccidim not going to say anything because this is not the place to do so10:25
apusactually tho, aside from redhat, our university is very up to date, the IT department actually gets the money they need10:25
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flaccidi might start policing like Jucato10:25
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apushow do I give myself permissions on the drives I just mounted10:26
pollyoHow can I tell if the ssh-server is running?10:27
flaccidapus: chmod10:27
fdovingapus: i usually mount them as myself, if they are removable or if they don't support linux acl/permissions.10:27
flaccidand also chown to change ownership10:27
flaccidwhat type of file system10:28
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apusI need to do it for a ntfs, a fat32 and a ext310:28
fdovingpollyo: 'ps ax|grep sshd'10:28
flaccid!ntfs10:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:28
fdovingapus: is the ext3 removable?10:28
pollyoThank yo10:28
pollyoyou10:28
flaccidapus: ^^ use the guide above to use the correct masks10:28
apusthey are all intenall if thats what you are asking10:29
fdovingapus: ok. follow the guide :)10:29
apusoh man10:29
apusthats big and long10:29
apusthey are already mounted, and I can read them10:29
fdovingand usefull :)10:29
apusI just cant write10:29
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apuswhats a mask?10:30
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apusactually, that guide doesn't seem to have permissions10:30
flaccidrw option in fstab10:31
flaccidapus: it does10:31
flaccid1sec i think they changed it10:31
apusso like, rw--rw10:31
rokwhere to find synaptic for kubuntu ?10:32
apusI remember that from like highschool man, I had to ssh and all that to a webserver, it was kreepy and little evil linux men in red coats tried to kidnapp me10:32
apusbut it was okay because ssh is secure10:32
flaccidim on phone brb10:32
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flaccidapus: see where it uses ro as an option - that means read only. use rw instead10:36
apusthe properties of my mounted drives seem to be messed they all say 25 free of 29 gigs, but thats way off10:36
apusin the fstab file?10:36
apusno nvm10:37
apusbefore I do that I need to make sure they are the right partitions, right click properties isn't giving me the right free space10:37
flaccidthere is a technical reason for the difference. but i can't explain. 1 is the calculation based on 1000 or 1024 and the other is space required for format10:38
flaccidread apus.10:39
apusI fixed it, they somehow weren't mounted, so the free space was what was left on my kubuntu partition10:40
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ubuntuhi folks10:41
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cinexif I resize a partition with qtparted will it keep the data intact?10:41
apusokay so I have the correct drives all mounted, I can read all of them, how do I change the permissions for the current user to full acess all all 3 drives10:42
cinexyou can do it in the fstab ap ?10:42
cinexapus**10:42
apusdont ask me im noob10:42
apuscan I?10:42
cinexI think so10:42
cinexgoogle /etc/fstab10:42
fdovingapus: for ntfs you probably need to use another driver ntfs-3g or what it's called.10:43
fdovingapus: for fat it's pretty easy, mount it with your own uid= in fstab.10:43
apusone of them is mounted "rw" in fstab but I still cant write10:44
fdovingfor ext3, change permissions 'sudo chown yourusername.yourgroupname -R /media/ext3disk'10:44
apushow do I find my groupname10:44
fdovingit's the same as your username.10:44
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apusnice, I got the ext310:45
fdovingnow for fat,  can you paste the fstab line for it?10:46
apus /dev/sdc1 /mount/data3 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 010:46
fdovingok. change it to:10:46
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fdovingapus: /dev/sdc /mount/data3 vfat defaults,uid=youruid 0 010:48
fdovingapus: you can find your uid with the command 'id -u' in a konsole.10:48
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fdovingit's probably 100010:48
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apusnice, got the fat working10:50
apusthat leaves ntfs10:50
apuswait10:50
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fdovingapus: that one you need to figure out yourself. i haven't used ntfs in 10 years.10:50
fdoving!ntfs-3g | apus10:50
ubotuapus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)10:51
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apusit is working10:51
apussomehow it started working10:51
fdovingvoodoo magic :)10:51
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apusthe way beryl installs is insane10:52
apusyou copy paste 2 things! omg10:52
twentyafterfour_hey that obotu is pretty cool10:52
fdovingubotu: botsnack10:52
ubotuYum!10:52
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_4strOlol10:52
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zorglu_q. is feisty officially out ?10:56
txwikingerzorglu_: IIRC Feisty will official be released tomorrow10:57
txwikinger+ly10:58
zorglu_txwikinger: ok thanks. how is the process to upgrade from edgy ? i mean how many people meets issue when upgrading ?10:58
apuswhats pcm in regard to audio10:58
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apusis that what "wav" is from the windows audio panel10:59
zorglu_apus: this is a format of sound data10:59
txwikingerYou can upgrade by using the upgrade manager10:59
apusso the pcm slider changes pretty much all audio levels10:59
txwikingerThere are some issues, but there is also a lot of improvement, and maybe until tomorrow the issues will be resolved too10:59
zorglu_txwikinger: yep that i understand :) i ask for a field experience of how many bug reported :)10:59
zorglu_txwikinger: ah ok thanks :)11:00
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lol7hi11:00
txwikingerhi lol711:00
apusomg amarok is the best ever11:01
apusit scanned for and found 10 gigs of music and sorted/whatnot in like 20 seconds11:01
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apusklipper  omg,11:01
apusguys im excited11:02
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apushow do I change default browser11:05
_4strOapus: syste'm setting / default app11:06
apusim not gonna lie, there is about 8 hours of nightmare between downloading the kubuntu iso and getting everything going, but I can already see I'm going to like the switch11:06
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_4strOapus: 8 hours ?11:08
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_4strOi downloaded the iso in 1h11:08
apuswell first it wouldn't start x correctly it was using the wrong driver11:08
apusfinally got into it, then k3b woulnd't burn a cd i needed to repartition, amarok wouldn't load, i couldn't see my ntfs, i had to mess with mounting11:09
lupuldoes anyone know where stores amarok the album covers?11:09
apusdidn't have audio,11:09
apuswe also downloaded and tried 3 different isos before we figured out how to boot11:10
apusbut i must sleep11:11
apusbye and thanks all11:11
_4strOlupul: ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok11:11
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_4strOlol apus11:11
lupulok11:13
lupulthanks11:13
flaccidsweet at least apus is sorted11:13
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johntHi Folks I would like some help to edit a .wmf file please11:17
johntanyone???11:18
_4strOjohnt: ?11:18
johntYes I am trying to open a wmf file to compare it but Gedit refuses saying it does not understand the encoding11:19
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_4strOjohnt: try edit them with openoffice11:19
johntO-O Open office????11:20
_4strOjohnt: yes11:20
johntI never thought of that ok then I will try11:20
flaccida wmf file is not text11:21
_4strOhttp://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200701-07.xml11:21
flaccidtry a graphics application to open it11:21
_4strOooo can manage i think11:22
flaccidsorry do you want to edit it or use it in a document?11:22
flaccid_4strO: Ooo can edit the file instead of just embedding it?11:22
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_4strOdont know, never user a type of file like this ;:p11:24
flaccidhehe11:24
_4strOf0ck pseudo microsoft files11:24
doneilli hate filing bugs for two separate programs not 'jiving.'11:24
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_4strOjohnt: and then ?11:24
doneillit's very hard to decide which one isn't doing the correct thing, when there's gray area in how they are supposed to act, exactly.11:25
flaccidit would need a wrapper at least as its vector: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Metafile11:25
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johnt<4str0> Sorry I am a bit slow. No go with oo it claims the files are corrupt trys to repair then fails11:26
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_4strOjohnt: ok11:26
doneillskencil can use it.11:27
doneillor inkscape11:27
doneillfound in adept11:27
_4strOflaccid: the first para after the menu is 'SetAbortProc exploit'11:27
_4strO^^11:27
johnt<flaccid> the graphics aps do not open it either11:27
_4strOjohnt: perhaps you have to import it11:28
_4strOnot simply open11:28
doneillas i say... inkscape can read wmf files, as can skencil.11:28
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flaccidyeah11:28
flaccid_4strO: do you wanna advise johnt to not use it?11:29
flacciddoneill: sorry i must of missed your msg11:29
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_4strOflaccid: no just kidding11:30
doneilldidn't mean to repeat myself, but i forgot to mention that i was talking about wmf11:30
flaccidhehe11:30
flaccidah ok coo doneill11:30
johntthe reason I want to read the files is because I am playing around with a terrain editor in "widelands" but my edits do give me a headquarters buidling but the maps with the game do so i want to read the file and see what I have missed11:30
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flaccidtry the two programs doneill suggest i guess11:30
flaccidor use windows11:31
johntbuilding11:31
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flaccidsweet11:31
doneilli have windows running on an old pc, here11:31
doneilli compile win32 stuff on it, and dust it off to play, when i feel i'm losing touch with mainstream 'puters.11:31
doneillso i have a question, is it kosher to e-mail a package maintainer directly regarding a bug found in their package11:32
johntSo apt-get install skensil????11:32
_4strOjohnt: sudo apt-get ...11:32
doneilljohnt: if you'd like, if you prefer apt over adept.11:32
doneilldon't forget to do 'sudo' if you aren't logged in as root11:33
flacciddoneill: sometimes but generally if its a bug put it on launchpad11:33
doneillwell i have done that much11:34
doneillso i guess i'll refrain, don't want to hound the guy... yet.11:34
johntThanks all will go and try that11:34
flaccidthats all you need to do11:34
doneillit's something of a last straw for me11:34
flaccidi know what you mean doneill but its not goign to help11:34
flaccidi get this feeling a lot myself11:35
flaccideg. mythtv. but they are finally doing something about that package11:35
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doneillthey disabled support for the standard internet protocol in feisty for a while, to cater to legacy devices which only understood the deprecated version...11:36
doneillbut that's because enough people complained :(11:36
flaccidwhich protocol?11:36
doneillIpv6.11:37
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doneillrecently, it has been fixed, mind you.11:37
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flacciderr so there is no problem11:37
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doneillheh11:37
mornfallhello11:37
doneillnot in that package at least...11:37
flaccidso why need to email11:37
flaccidwell you have filed a bug11:37
mornfallanyone with pxe images for kubuntu installer?11:37
doneillbecause that's only one of several problems my ipv6-only systems have lately11:37
flaccidim sure you don't need ipv611:37
doneillifup fails to configure ipv6 on any system with ipv6 compiled into the kernel11:38
doneiller, i don't use ipv4 at all :/11:38
doneillat least not this side of my siit router11:38
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pollyoCan anyone suggest a all-in-one printer that works well with linux?11:38
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doneillpollyo, i would be hard-pressed to suggent a printer in any form which works at all with any linux.11:39
doneillsuggest*11:39
flacciddoneill: ok thats cool. its a bit early to go pure ipv6 so i understand your concern. one can only wait in this open world sometimes11:39
flaccidhttp://linux-printing.org11:39
pollyodoneill: I understand.11:39
txwikingerpollyo: HP provides a lot of support for Linux including HP-LIP toolbox11:40
pollyoAnyone have experience with the HP printer system?11:40
flaccidhttp://linuxprinting.org/11:40
doneillflaccid: oh, i still use ipv4 programs, i just run them over ipv6, such as world of warcraft, amarok, stuff like that.11:40
pollyoflaccid: I'll take another look at those.11:40
txwikingerI use HP printer under linux for a long time and haven't had a lot of problems11:40
doneilli'm an early adopter of up and coming technologies, such as linux.  probably why i'm one of the oldest dogs in OSS.11:40
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flaccidyeah but the internet is not ready for you11:41
flaccidno are some applications sady11:41
pollyotxwikinger: I can not get a good idea of how well HP printers work.  I have a 712c and it is one of the non-standard printers that do not work with the hp software for linux.11:41
flaccidsadly11:41
doneillyeah, but i have that worked out too.11:41
flaccidbut i love your stye, doneill11:41
doneilli wrote a little gem called tlib11:41
doneillit wraps syscalls and adapts all ipv4 programs to understand ipv6 almost completely.11:41
doneilli play world of warcraft daily :)11:41
flaccidcool11:42
txwikingerpollyo: I think the 712c has the windows driver partly inplemented inside the firmware or something like that ?11:42
pollyotxwikinger: I have no idea.  The print quality sucks in linux. That much I know.11:42
txwikingerah.11:42
doneillif the world isn't 'ready' for ipv6, it isn't 'ready' for a linux desktop.11:42
doneillthe problem isn't support really, it's just adapting to different ways of doing things, and culture shock.11:43
txwikingerThe best is probably to look 1) if the vendor officially supports linux, and 2) on the webpage above, what is stated there about the printer11:43
flaccidpollyo: you know nothing then.11:43
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pollyoflaccid: lol11:43
doneillwhen you give up windows you give up a lot of things, and have to hack others, such as wine to make flash animations11:43
pollyoflaccid: When it comes to linux... I know just about nothing.11:43
flacciddoneill: hey i agree. im waiting for uptake of SPF for every mail server in the world. is it going to hapen?11:43
flaccidpollyo: then don't comment on it and give the wrong idea please11:44
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flaccidthere are IDEs available to create flash that are open11:44
pollyoflaccid: I'm commenting on the printer I have.11:44
flaccidyou don't need wine for flash11:44
nbcbhi i need to watch a video clip on cnn website using firefox in kubuntu but it says i need windows media player.. can i still watch?11:44
doneillit's possible, but not likely, because nobody has the obligation of pending doom if they don't...11:44
doneill:)11:44
nbcbi do have mplayer though11:44
flaccidpollyo: the whole world does not have your printer so dont make a general comment like that on linux11:44
doneillnbcb: you can, but they may not let you, heh.11:45
pollyoflaccid: What comment specifically?11:45
nbcbwhat?11:45
pollyoflaccid: I said my printer doesn't print as well as it does in windows.11:45
flacciddoneill: thats the case with anything. nobody has to adopt anything. does it matter? yes.11:45
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nbcbis there any way to fake the site to play the video using mplayer?11:45
flaccidpollyo: [2007-04-18 19:42]  <pollyo> txwikinger: I have no idea.  The print quality sucks in linux. That much I know.11:45
doneillflaccid: we'll see in 2011 if we're running multilevel NAT with smiles on our faces11:45
flaccidpollyo: no you didn't11:45
doneillif we are, i'll be crying in a corner...11:45
pollyoflaccid: You should read the entire conversation.11:45
flacciddoneill: yeah right :)11:46
pollyoflaccid: Your taking it out of context.11:46
doneillhe was referencing HIS printer in particular, not ALL printers...11:46
flaccidi don't give a fuck pollyo. no context is needed for that comment.11:46
flaccidno he was making a general comment11:46
pollyoflaccid: LOL11:46
pollyoflaccid: Read my comment just prior to that.11:47
doneillwell he was talking specifically about his model of printer11:47
doneillat the time, anyway.11:47
doneillanyway polly11:47
doneillthat usually has to do with a few things11:47
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flaccidso what. in the next comment you didn't say linux sux for printing with my printer. you said it in general.11:47
doneilla) printer driver, are you using generic postscript or pcl5?11:47
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flaccidplease realise the difference.11:48
doneillb) are you printing from TuxPaint or OpenOffice?11:48
pollyodoneill: I'm not really sure.  I have the printer setup in cups.11:48
flaccidyou can't come to a conclusion of linux even with your hardware if you know nothing about linux.. and you admitted that11:48
elbingI'm living without windows from 9 years ago. When I buy any hardware, sound card, printer or whatever, I buy a hard I know it will work with my OS (*BSD, Linux or AIX). If I bought a printer that was made for windows, then I'll print in windows.11:48
doneillpollyo: in that case, check your cups configuration using your local tool, be it your browser or kde control centre...11:48
doneillelbing: i just write drivers.11:49
elbingdoneill: ok11:49
flaccidelbing: agreed.11:49
doneilli have wifi and audio which doesn't work on my laptop.  and for "doesn't work" my music sounds great and my link is stable.11:49
flacciddoneill: then release those drivers to the community please.11:49
doneilli have been11:50
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doneilldon't worry yourself :)11:50
flaccidok cool then11:50
doneilli thought i mentioned i'm oss11:50
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flaccidwhich drivers for which models?11:50
elbinghere in my job, we have two pcl printers, one works with linux, one not. We have two subnets, one is active directory. Life is hard if you want11:50
flacciddoneill: provide links?11:50
johntI got a fail with inkscape small paste to follow11:50
doneillbcm43xx, and the sound i just wangled11:50
doneilldidn't code anything for it11:50
johntcode  : 311:50
johntwhat  : Couldn't recognise the image file format for file '/usr/share/games/wide lands/maps/Checkmate.wmf'11:50
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flaccidright so you don't write drivers. thought so.11:52
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_4strOjohnt: did you try to import them in ooo (not open them)11:53
asterix14hallo und guten tag zusammen11:54
johnt<_$str0> No I do not know how to do that. Do I select import then what??11:55
flaccid!de11:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:55
flaccidhallo asterix1411:55
nbcbhi i need to watch a video clip on cnn website using firefox in kubuntu but it says i need windows media player.. can i still watch?11:55
flaccidoh11:55
flaccidsorry asterix1411:55
johnt<_4str0> No I do not know how to do that. Do I select import then what??11:55
asterix14hallo flaccid11:55
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flaccidheh i didn't even read what you said. what is zusammen11:55
flaccidasterix14: sorry bad german11:55
_4strOjohnt: ... then you selct your file ...11:56
asterix14ah11:56
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johnt<_4str0> OK I will go look see what happens11:56
elbingnbcb: check web source and open the stream link into your kaffeine or xine11:56
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nbcbwell i'm really interested in watching the clips about the gunman at VT on cnn website but need windows media player11:58
nbcbthe location is javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/ireports/2007/04/16/ireport.va.tech.shooting.cnn','2009/04/15');11:58
nbcbhow to change it into xine or kaffeine11:59
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flaccidnbcb: ask the developer of the site to use free formats12:00
_4strOnbcb: by send a mail to the webmaster of the website and asing him to let choice the player ...12:00
_4strOflaccid: :p12:01
doneillflaccid: well, there was one for an S3 Savage Twister, but that was just updating the driver to support it.12:01
doneillmost hardware released as 'new' is based on a previous model with a corresponding module and support already written.12:01
nbcbic.. its www.cnn.com12:01
flacciddoneill: i don't care.12:02
doneillignorance is bliss...12:02
doneillbut you seem pretty bitter.12:02
nbcbthey would probably ask me to use windows..zzz12:02
johnt<_4str0> Hate to admit this but I cant find any "import" export yes but not import oo word12:03
flacciddoneill: there is no tone on irc.12:03
doneillno, but there is apathy.12:04
_4strOjohnt: will have a look12:04
flaccidits pretty basic. don't claim to write drivers if you have only 'updated' one.12:04
flaccidno there isn't doneill12:04
flaccidlets move on shall we.12:04
doneillseveral, thanks.12:04
flaccid!offtopic > don12:05
flaccid!offtopic > doneill12:05
_4strOjohnt: strange, in the open box he let me choice wmf file type12:05
flaccidlets talk about ubuntu and not writing drivers.12:05
johnt<_4str0> Hate to admit this but I cant find any "import" export yes but not import oo word12:05
doneillum, right.  elbing, which versions of PCL are they using and/or do you know if the printers support them?12:05
johnt<_4str0> Sorry12:06
doneillsorry, pollyo* that was for you.12:06
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johnt<_4str0> Yes for me too but when I try to execute it says the file is corrupt I kanow the files are readable by "wide lands"12:07
elbingdoneill: one is a samsung clp-510 with its own ppd, the other is a konica without ppd12:07
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doneillso what's wrong with the quality?12:09
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doneilli mean, the obvious road would be to simply fix that issue instead of buying a new MFC altogether, right?12:10
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johntI will try some more searching I guess thanks to all   Bye for now12:14
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elbingdoneill: sorry, I was with a customer. MFC? I got an MFC brother running with linux12:31
flaccidhehe12:31
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elleshello12:36
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Hc\\!wine12:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:48
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Hc\\why can't i get wine down?12:51
Tm_THc\\: you don't use axe large enough12:52
Hc\\sudo apt-get install Wine, aint working, what did i do wrong?12:52
Hc\\Tm_T axe?12:52
Tm_Tstupid joke :)12:52
Ilokaasu:P12:52
Tm_THc\\: how it doesn't work?12:52
Tm_T"doesn't work" tells nothing12:52
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Hc\\unable to lock the administration dirctory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:53
pollyoHc\\: Could it be the cap W?12:53
Hc\\thats what it says12:53
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Hc\\all i got on is konqueror and shell12:54
flaccid!lock01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
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fdovingHc\\: try 'sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock'01:00
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flaccidnice01:01
flaccidcan that be added to factoids for ubotu, fdoving?01:02
fdovingflaccid: it is there.01:02
fdoving!adept crash fix01:02
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:02
mornfallick...01:03
mornfallpoor me01:03
flaccidoh sweet01:03
flaccid!find crash01:03
ubotuFound: crash, crashmail, crashme, lcrash, lcrash-dev01:03
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flaccidhmm that only searches packages?01:03
nokus   01:04
BluesKaj!ru01:04
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:04
nokus01:04
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mornfalldlq? interesting transcription01:05
mornfallq = ja01:05
mornfall:-)01:05
mornfallanyway01:06
mornfallany volunteers to fix adept?01:06
mornfall:] 01:06
fdovingmornfall: no progress in development?.01:06
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Hc\\oh no, i got AMD64, and tried to install it so no wonder that it aint working :D01:07
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mornfallfdoving: unfortunately, i have 2 parttime jobs and a thesis to write01:07
mornfallplus real life, which may be more of a problem than those three01:08
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Ace2016HI all01:08
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charlesHKGis there any internet radio player like winamp, real player or windows media player that you can use in kubuntu without having to save the url for each and every station???01:09
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mornfallcharlesHKG: tried dropping the url on amarok? (just guessing)01:09
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fdovingmornfall: ok. i can help with small fixes. do you use the kde bts?01:09
Ace2016Is it possible to use two mice at once and have say mouse 1 have the normal commands but the second mouse's button 1 mapped to xorgs button 6 or something and have it do totally different commands?????01:09
charlesHKGright.....each and every url.....01:10
Ace2016charlesHKG: Your not asking for a player are you, are you after some sort of app with a list of internet radio stations???01:10
charlesHKGok....then is there an app with a list of internet radio stations???01:11
mornfallcharlesHKG: maybe you could put them into the playlist sidebar (there's already a bunch of stations there)01:11
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mornfallcharlesHKG: playlists -> radio stations01:11
mornfalls/stations/streams/01:11
Ace2016charlesHKG: yup its called tunapie, it has internet radio and tv01:11
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charlesHKGtunapie?01:12
charlesHKGok01:12
Ace2016charlesHKG: yup01:12
mornfallfdoving: i do, but right now, the stable and development codebases are pretty much diverged01:12
mornfallfdoving: and i need to finish the dev one to make sense...01:12
mornfalleither way, shower, bbl01:12
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BluesKajcharlesHKG, if you install the latest amarok, it comes with several hundred internet radio stns in it's playlist by default, if this is what you're looking for.01:15
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hansWhy can't amarok and kaffeine play files over smb:// ???01:23
hansand how can i get it to work?01:23
hansDo I have to use NFS?01:23
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dettoaltrimenti_I'm using Wireless Assistant to connect to my wireless connection, but I have to enter my root password every time I want to start it, and when it disconnects (when I close my laptop, hibernate, anything like that) it won't automatically reconnect. Is there a program that doesn't require the root password and will automatically connect to a preferred network?01:25
fdovinghans: you should mount the network filesystem to a mountpoint, with for example  the program 'sbm4k', then play from the mounted location. only some programs understands the smb:// addresses.01:25
hansWell I am on myndng arou laptop.. so it would be nice if I could use a solution that would be tolerant of me roami01:26
hansis there another program other than smb4k in my experience that causes nothing but trouble01:27
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fdovinghans, there is one more, that does the same job, i don't use it, but i'll find the name for you. hang on.01:28
fdovinghans: komba201:28
hansOk thanks. I will try out both then01:29
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_4strOhans: did you have the smbclient installed ?01:29
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_4strOhans: dpkg -l | grep smbclient01:30
hansyes i have smbclient01:30
_4strOhans: the just use konsueror to browse01:30
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_4strOhans: then just use konsueror to browse01:30
_4strOwhen i browse the samba network with konqueror, i've just to click on a file to open it01:32
_4strOif I click some movie files, kaffeine just read it (over the network)01:32
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hanswell mine doesn't01:33
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hansFresh install of feisty01:34
_4strOsame as i01:34
shawn34hans, you mean from browser or from file manager?01:34
hanskonqueror01:35
_4strOhans: think your new user isn't known by the smb server ..01:35
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steven_hello01:35
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shawn34hans, yes but do you mean its not working for local files? or something on a website01:35
asturcuelebreNL01:35
hansAmarok says: No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported01:36
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hansI can play the files if I copy them over01:36
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hansThe files are on my local smb server01:36
iGadgethi01:36
iGadgetjust tried kubuntu-feisty-beta01:37
steven_whats it like01:37
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iGadgetand updated01:37
iGadgetbut... there's no desktop effects anywhere01:37
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iGadgetis it an optional package?01:37
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_4strOiGadget: nop, they are not active01:38
_4strOhans: i have the same pb with amarok (but not w<ith kaffeine)01:39
iGadget_4strO: okay, but can they be enabled? Ubuntu has this nice little 'enable desktop effects' control applet01:39
iGadgetbut I can't find anything like that in kubuntu01:39
_4strOiGadget: i dont really know becaus i'm using beryl :p01:39
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iGadget_4strO: I see... but they're merging again with compiz, aren't they? So beryl is going to dissappear sometime soon I guess?01:41
_4strOiGadget: try : desktop-effect in your konsole ;)01:41
iGadgetwill try :)01:41
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_4strOiGadget: try desktop-eff + <TAB>01:42
_4strOdont know the exact name01:42
iGadget_4strO: the package desktop-effects doesn't seem to be installed at all01:42
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iGadgetI wonder what happens when I manually install it, cause it's a gnome-optimized package I presume?01:43
_4strOiGadget: dont know01:44
fdovinghans, your problem is actually that amarok defaults to the xine engine, which does not understand smb:// urls.01:44
shawn34!ipaq01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
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_4strOfdoving: gstreamer engine can ?01:44
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iGadgetIs the any way I can see in Adept if a given package is gtk or qt optimized?01:45
shawn34anyone know of a good howto to get windows mobile pocketpc to sync w/kontact via usb ?01:45
livingdaylightIts the final countdown!!!01:45
_4strOand why kaffeine does (it's using xine engin too)01:45
iGadgetshawn34: have you tried multisync?01:46
shawn34no, is it gui?01:46
shawn34i know the system sees my pocketpc01:46
shawn34but it doesn't mount it01:46
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iGadgetI guess so... I've been told it's your best shot at getting any CE-driven device to work with ubuntu01:46
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BluesKajis there a rule of thumb how large the / partition vs the /home partition should be ...I do a lot of video editing etc and need lots of disk space for storing these files til they are burned to dvd .01:47
fdovingBluesKaj: i don't separate / and /home. i just make one huge /01:48
iGadgetshawn34:  right now, the system probably just reads some device ID... I'd be surprised if anything more than that happened out of the box with a CE device01:48
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BluesKajwell, it's a done deal fdoving , my / partition and /home are already partitioned01:48
iGadgetBluesKaj: If I were you, I'd be using a separate (raid0 set of?) drive(s), dedicated to video01:49
shawn34usb 3-1.3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB001:49
shawn34i get that when i plug it in01:49
iGadgetshawn34: hmmm... that sure sounds like a lot more is happening01:50
iGadgetshawn34: still, your best shot is probably multisync01:50
BluesKajI'm not gonna get into raid stuff and seperate drives. I have enuff space, i'd  just like to use it efficiently01:50
shawn34i will check that out thanks01:50
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hansHmm I sure have an idea for feisty+1! smb support build in...01:50
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iGadgetBluesKaj: your call... but don't be surprised when you get framedrops because the disk is occupied by other processes once in a while01:51
Tm_Tnixternal mooh01:52
Tm_Terr01:52
Tm_T"mooh"01:52
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BluesKajhi Tm_T01:54
Tm_Thi BluesKaj :)01:54
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BluesKajget any sleep yet Tm_T ? :)01:55
reydelsillonwhat program do you guys use to install aplications?01:55
Tm_TBluesKaj: nope01:55
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Tm_TBluesKaj: and have been rather bust at "work"01:56
BluesKajok01:56
Tm_Tbusy even01:56
Tm_TI really do hate this keyboard :(01:56
reydelsillonwhat is the equivalent to ctrl+alt+del in kubuntu?01:57
Tm_Tthese keys are higher than me01:57
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Tm_Treydelsillon: how about, ctrl+alt+del01:57
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Tm_Treydelsillon: to be honest, I have no idea what exactly you are asking01:57
reydelsillonits not for shutdonw. is for closing a application thats working in the background01:57
Tm_Treydelsillon: ctrl+esc perhaps?01:58
reydelsillonim trying to open adept. but theres anoter program using the function.01:58
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Tm_TI really don't use defaults so can't remember those very well01:58
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reydelsillonthees a shortcut to terminate aplication, riht?01:59
reydelsillonanyone with experience using vmware on kubuntu?02:02
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JuJuBeeWhat is a good gui FTP program?02:07
mardireydelsillon: do a Ctrl-Esc, that will bring up a processes list02:08
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reydelsillonthanks02:08
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mardiyou can also to 'top' in konsole. i prefer htop, shows more info02:08
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mardi*type 'top' in konsole i mean....02:10
kubuntu22Can anyone tell me if this article ( http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/start-downloading-feisty-now-and-get-it-faster-on-release-day/ ) applies to kubuntu as well as ubuntu02:10
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fdovingkubuntu22: yes, that is a nice method and it also works for kubuntu.02:12
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kubuntu22fdoving: thanks...this will make things much easier, and quicker :)02:12
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fdovingkubuntu22: yes, and it helps keeping the mirrors load down too :)02:13
kubuntu22:)02:13
JuJuBeeAnybody ? Good gui FTP ?02:14
mardiJuJuBee: i'd look in Adept02:14
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mardipersonally I use konqueror for FTP02:14
JuJuBeeDidn't know I could.02:15
Riddellfdoving, kubuntu22: I don't recommend that to be widely published, rsync is extreamely CPU and disk intensive and more than a dozen people using it will slow the machine to a crawl02:15
kubuntu22Riddell: it hit my RSS feeds this morning on planter ubuntu...I'm thinking lots of people are going to see it02:16
JuJuBeemardi : that's cool.02:16
Riddellkubuntu22: that'll keep the sysadmins busy02:16
kubuntu22JuJuBee: start the address off with ftp:// in konquerer02:16
Tm_TJuJuBee: there's lots of things you can do with Konqueror02:16
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mardifish:// is my fav :)02:17
JuJuBeeI see.  Do I drag-n-drop files/folders?02:17
Tm_Tapt:/ and man:/ <302:17
Tm_TJuJuBee: you can02:17
mardido Ctrl-Shift-L if you want a split window in konqueror, Ctrl-Shift-R to go back to single pane02:18
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JuJuBeeCool.  Thanks.02:20
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flaccidw0a you can do heaps02:22
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YingFanhi, i have hald and udev installed and belong to plugdev group Where do i read about how to make an external usb device to be writeable by regular user02:24
shawn34are there any plugins for kmail/kontact? like weather plugins or somthing?02:24
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JuJuBeeWhat is fish:// ?02:25
mardiJuJuBee: for ssh02:25
fdovingJuJuBee: the same as sftp:/ - filebrowsing over ssh.02:25
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fdovingJuJuBee: it's very cool by the way. atleast with public-key authentication.02:26
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JuJuBeeCool.  I'll check it out.02:26
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dognewshi02:32
iGadgetreydelsillon: I'm using vmware player right now on kubuntu02:33
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iGadgetI'll check back in 15mins or so02:33
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dognewsat what time will new shiny feisty be out tomorrow?02:34
neonlinuxdognews: sorta depends on where u are in the world02:34
dognewsneonlinux: just give me the UTC time ;)02:35
iGadgethmmm... since when is evolution no more able to connect to Exchange webservers?02:35
shawn34i installed kweather, selected philadelphia but when i try to update it it says requested station does not exsist02:36
neonlinuxdognews: i wish i could lol.. the people who push the release button are on cest (+0200)02:36
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shawn34anyone know how to get this working?02:37
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dognewsneonlinux: and when was it the last time?02:37
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neonlinuxwell.. im in oz.. here its 10:37... theyre 8 hours behind me :(02:38
neonlinuxand they said they would push the button sometime in their morning02:38
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neonlinuxi wish i had a more accurate time frame02:38
Lord_Maynoth_42could anyone here help me please?  I trying to help fix a bug with the newest kernel... and the AMD 690G chipset02:38
daydreamwhat's up d.gray-man manga 11502:39
bobstroJuJuBee: did you get that proxy working ok?02:39
Lord_Maynoth_42seems the bug was introduced after 2.6.20RC502:39
Lord_Maynoth_42they want me to recomplile and test each RC after that02:39
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dognewsneonlinux: morning sounds great :)02:45
neonlinuxdognews: lol.. it will be arvo here before i see it :(02:45
dognewsneonlinux: I'm in +2, too and we want to update it on our school network in the afternoon02:46
dognewsneonlinux: 8 hours before us - that would be Australia?02:47
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neonlinuxlol. i want to install it on one of our schools servers... have been waiting for this release instead of installing one of the previous ones... yeah.. in australia :)02:48
neonlinuxdognews: gotta install it then add it to the win2k3 domain02:49
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dognewsneonlinux: cool (y) I've spent 10 weeks in your great country (near Melbourne) - Australia ist just awesome! (kubuntu, too of course)02:50
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neonlinuxdognews: lol.. so sampled the beer, vegimite and the drop bears? lol... ive never been out of it (so i have nothing to compare it to, but glad u found it great).. maybe someday :)02:51
dognewsneonlinux: so, every student at your school will be using kubuntu soon? :)02:51
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neonlinuxlol.. i wish... government has a special deal with microsoft... licensing wise.. so unfortunatly.. officially all workstations and servers are windows.... but ive made some... unofficial ones :)02:52
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fdovingkubuntu22: i forgot to mention, you can download the first file from anywhere, you do not need to use rsync for both images. if you first fetch an daily image today from an http/ftp server, you can use rsync to update it tomorrow.02:53
mipsAny idea why I cannot install grub to (hd0,2) but only to (hd0) ???02:53
neonlinuxthe teachers at the school needed a file server.... i built a machine with 4 hdds set in raid5 (software raid) kubuntu.. has about 600gb and currently at 32% capacity...02:54
neonlinuxand it only cost about $1000 to build the machine... if we were to buy another win site license it would have been about 200 on top of that wor win2k302:54
neonlinux*wor if for.. typo02:54
dognewsneonlinux: :o that windows licensing thing seems to be a bad point about Australia :( - over here in Germany some towns already swiched to linux :) and the official school network system is some suse linux junk02:56
dognewsneonlinux: your file server thing sounds pretty cool :D02:57
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neonlinuxdognews: yeah... it sucks... interesting part is... when microsoft was going to stop winxp and only allow vista licenses.. the education system started considering alternatives... as soon as ms heard this there was a sudden change and now were stuck with windows02:58
neonlinuxdognews: yeah.. the file server is neat.. found it alot easier on kubuntu than any other linux distro02:58
dognewsneonlinux: at our school we plan to put kubuntu on all our clients for the students (unfortunately still together with windows) and we'll try to have some free workshops for students02:59
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neonlinuxcool :) im gonna see if i can push for a lab with a few machines running opensource software (kubuntu and various apps) see if i can get them in active directory too03:00
Riddelldognews: excellent!03:00
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neonlinuxdognews: so how come your government decided opensource software was ok to use.. was there a sudden change or did ms do something wrong?03:01
neonlinuxdognews: dreaming of oz doing the same really03:02
dognewsneonlinux: "opensource lab" sounds great :)03:02
cristian__qualcuno sa come posso installre i driver ati della mia 9600 su kubuntu6.10?03:02
dognewsneonlinux: I think it's a question of money ;)03:03
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Lord_Maynoth_42is it possible to recompile kernel's and make a new liveCD via windows xp... there is a kernel bug which prevents feisty or edgy from installing on my rig...03:04
neonlinuxdognews: i think our government doesnt understand that part03:04
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: whats the bug?03:04
cristian__anyone know how to install ati driver on kubuntu 6.10? scuse for my bad english....03:04
Lord_Maynoth_42the amd 690G / SB600 is buggered up in the latest kernels....03:05
mipsAny idea why I cannot install grub to (hd0,2) but only to (hd0) ???03:05
Lord_Maynoth_42the only known working version is 2.6.20RC503:05
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neonlinuxcristian__: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide03:05
Lord_Maynoth_42and the only working rig I have now is this machine... and xp is all I have :C I hate XP03:06
Lord_Maynoth_42*_*03:06
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: im unsure of specifics but maybe setting the bios to failsafe defaults and finding some boot switches might help03:07
neonlinuxlike noapic and nolapic03:07
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dognewsneonlinux: our problem only problem at the moment is that we didn't ever do workshops like these - do you know anything about similar projects? Maybe some free and simple ubuntu learning scripts or something?03:08
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Lord_Maynoth_42acpi=off fixes it but disables necessary hardware so its catch2203:08
neonlinuxdognews: all i know is from what ive messed with (usually breaking someting and having to fix it lol)...  wish there were courses.. google has been the best companion really03:09
neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: disables hardware?03:09
Lord_Maynoth_42well I need my usb03:10
neonlinuxdognews: oh.. and hanging around irc channels like this one :)03:10
Lord_Maynoth_42to use my keyboard03:10
neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: ill see what i can dig up03:10
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Lord_Maynoth_42you guys rule03:11
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dognewsneonlinux: yeah (y)03:12
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: in booting.. where does it get too.. does it boot to gui?03:15
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: which fiesty did u use (what kernel?)03:17
Lord_Maynoth_42back sorry03:17
Lord_Maynoth_42I tried the latest feisty03:17
Lord_Maynoth_42as of yesterday03:17
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Lord_Maynoth_42and edgy03:18
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Lord_Maynoth_42and knoppix03:18
neonlinuxthe beta or the daily builds?03:18
Lord_Maynoth_42just regular beta03:18
Lord_Maynoth_42:/03:18
Lord_Maynoth_42I will prolly wait till the official release in a few days03:18
neonlinuxthe daily builds might fix it03:18
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samxhi!03:19
neonlinuxtheyre gonna be closest to feisty release as possible.03:19
samxone question plz!03:20
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412578&highlight=amd+690G03:21
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Lord_Maynoth_42hehe ya thats me :D03:22
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samxwhere can i see the programs, that runs on the startup?03:22
Lord_Maynoth_42msconfig03:22
Lord_Maynoth_42haha jk03:22
Lord_Maynoth_42sry03:22
samx03:22
samxin kubuntu xD03:23
Jucato!autostart03:23
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.03:23
samxoks tnx03:23
Jucatosamx: but in a fresh default Kubuntu install, what usually happens is that programs and process that you left running when you logged out/shut down are saved in the session and restarted when you log in again03:24
samxi introduced to start beyl twice, and i what to erase one03:25
neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: have you tried the 64bit build?03:25
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Lord_Maynoth_42yes I can get it to work sort of...03:25
Lord_Maynoth_42it seems very buggy03:25
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Lord_Maynoth_42so I am trying to find a solution to the 32bit bug03:26
hansIn smb4k when i mount a folder it unmounts automatically after about a second... why?03:26
neonlinuxso the 64bit boots?03:26
Lord_Maynoth_42yes that is correct the bug only affects the 32...03:26
Lord_Maynoth_42but the 64bit seems to crash a lot03:26
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Lord_Maynoth_42on me03:26
helgeI Use Edgy, I have ATI 9250 and a spasnking new (Acer AL2216W) 22 inch widescreen monitor. My problem is that I can only get the resolution of 120x768 to work. The others get all funny. Suggestions?03:27
Lord_Maynoth_42randomly and I cannot reproduce it03:27
neonlinuxafter installing the ati drivers for display?03:27
Lord_Maynoth_42so I went back with winXp03:27
helgedamn, shpuld be 1280x76803:27
helgedamn, should be 1280x76803:28
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helgeIt also says driver ATI.03:28
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helgeI should have a resolution of 1680x1050 and it works all fine in Vista.03:30
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neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: only thing i can think of is try the 64bit with noapic nolapic03:33
neonlinuxLord_Maynoth_42: or wait.. a few hours (yay).. for the release version03:33
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Lord_Maynoth_42hours03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42?03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42*_*03:34
BluesKajhelge have you installed 'xorg-driver-fglrx', it's available on the repos03:34
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Lord_Maynoth_42when is it due out03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42?03:34
rojaniHi All03:34
neonlinuxumm.. 19th03:34
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sasqjust got a 2000dpi mouse and the KDE mouse settings doesnt let me slow it down enough... any hints?03:34
BluesKajtomorrow ...maybe :)03:34
JucatoLord_Maynoth_42: April 19... but most probably following either UTC or US time03:34
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helgeBlueskaj , I will try fglrx . Anything I will have to do?03:35
rojaniI am installing a Ralink chipset wireless card for a friend, drivers are installed but can't detect any network? any idea?03:35
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BluesKajhelge, you may have to do this to reset yourscrn resolutions: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:36
helgeI couldnt get fglrx, it would break som packages.03:36
BluesKajhelge , install the xorg-driver-fglrx first and try to set the scrn resolutions first03:37
helgeBut I couldnt get the package03:38
helgeWhat should I do first?03:38
BluesKajok then run  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:38
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helgerunning xserver03:39
sasqnoone with a modern mouse here?03:40
BluesKajmodern ?03:40
kubuntu22like a razor?03:41
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yamalsasq: you might want to try adding something like  Option "Resolution" "2000"  to /etc/X11/xorg.conf mouse section, see http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html03:47
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sasqyamal: didnt help03:51
icecruncherdo you need any special files to run java -jar? any libraries or stuff like that?03:52
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yamalsasq: probably needs restarting the x server to activate the setting, but even then as the docs say it doesn't work on all devices03:52
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sasqyeah I restarted of course03:53
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thefirstdudeis it possible to download a smaller CD image, like with just the basic stuff03:58
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YingFanare all files in /tmp deleted upon reboot???03:58
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dawallhi all!03:58
thefirstdudecan someone tell me if I can download a smaller version of feaisty fawn03:58
dawallsomeone up for helping a n00b ?    =)03:59
thefirstdudetheir website doesn't offer many options03:59
pascuttithefirstdude: you can use the upgrading tool...04:01
pascuttibut it will upgrade many things too... a smaller version? i dont know anyone04:01
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Pollywogwhat is module wfb in xorg?04:02
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Pollywogwhere do I get it?04:02
neojthefirstdude: i dont know. but if you really have that requirement perhaps first installing debian with the netinst image, and then dist-upgrade:ing to ubuntu would be a solution.04:02
dawalli seem to have made a mess with the accounts or something, I cant use sudo och changing to admin mode under system settings, is it possible to restore this somehow??04:04
thefirstdudeis feisty fawn the latest realease?04:04
mipsyes04:04
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gnomefreakalmost04:04
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hak5fanHi I04:04
mipsalthough it will only be official tomorrow04:04
hak5fanhehe hit enter a bit early04:04
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Tm_TFeisty Fawn is scheduled to be released tomorrow... though will be released when ready04:06
bobstrois there an official howto on migrating from debian to ubuntu that way?04:06
hak5fanI'm trying to get gmailfs working I followed this guide http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447218&highlight=gmailfs and I get these errors http://p.rc6.org/index.php?id=91648efbb4 when trying to mount it04:06
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Pollywogare they going to fix this nvidia problem before the release?04:09
lynxohello!04:09
Pollywogapparntly the problem I am having is a common one04:09
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lynxo!install04:09
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate04:09
lynxo!automate04:10
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning04:10
BluesKajTm_T, will the adept upgrade notify us feisty beta users, with an auto upgrade ?04:10
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Tm_TBluesKaj: just like any upgrade04:10
BluesKajcoolness :)04:10
PollywogI guess the temp solution is to use nv driver for now04:10
PollywogI will try it04:10
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Pollywogyes that works04:12
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lynxoI can't get kubuntu to install i'm on live now...04:17
lynxo...04:18
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lynxo!partition04:18
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:18
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daydreamhow to run php code04:18
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lynxoi open it04:19
meuhlolhello all04:19
lynxo!ext204:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
lynxoEXt04:20
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lynxo!ext04:20
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meuhlolsomeone know how to configure Volume UP and Volume DOWN buttons at my keyboard please? When i press volume down it does -11, -12% of volume04:20
lynxo!netgear04:20
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lynxo...04:20
meuhloland I need to do -1% or +1% with these buttons at keyboard04:21
meuhlolsomeone can help me please?04:21
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bobstromeuhlol: what sort of keyboard?04:22
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meuhlolbobstro: it's an AZERTY keyboard, with some multimedia buttons (www, e-mail, stop, play/pause, previous, next, mute, vol up, vol down)04:24
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meuhlolbobstro: all buttons works excepting WWW, who don't launch my firefox, and Vol+ does +5 +6% of volume up, and VOL- does -10 -11 -12% of volume down, randomly04:25
bobstromeuhlol: if you go to system settings->General->Regional & Language->Keyboard Layout, you can select the model there (if there's a match).04:25
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meuhlolit's an Sangha (model builder) but what model to choose?04:25
bobstromeuhlol: yes, multimedia keyboards are a general problem. i had luck with logitech keyboards.04:25
bobstromeuhlol: ah, not sure on the generics that aren't listed.04:26
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meuhlolbob04:26
bobstromeuhlol: there are far more detailed steps building one from scratch. i'd suggest searching the forums and googling for some howto's, since the details will vary widely.04:26
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meuhlolthis keyboard works perfect in windows xp pro, how to configure it in kde?04:26
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bobstromeuhlol: i wound up using "hotkeys" for my laptop to enable the xtra buttons.04:26
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bobstromeuhlol: something to TRY (no guarantees). open kmix, go to settings->global shortcuts04:27
meuhlolbobstro: i make it on PC generik keyboard 105 buttons intl04:27
bobstrotry setting mixer to use those buttons there.04:27
meuhlolit works, but i would like to modify a amount of vol up & vol down buttons04:28
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bobstromeuhlol: you may be in luck if the buttons do *anything*. try the global shortcuts i just suggested.04:28
meuhlolyes im here04:28
meuhlolbut it says "nothing" in button04:28
bobstromeuhlol: did you try that yet?04:28
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bobstromeuhlol: at the bottom, where it says shortcut for selected action, click that button with mouse, then press up or down volume key. does that work?04:29
meuhlolyes04:29
bobstromeuhlol: select increase or decrease volume up above.04:29
bobstromeuhlol: ok, press OK to save it, then try it.04:30
bobstromeuhlol: still random amounts?04:30
meuhlolit works, bobstro, but vol+ first press = +5% volume up, second time press = +7% volume up... I would like to modify this amount, to make all times +1%04:30
meuhlolalways +6 or +704:30
bobstromeuhlol: still the same? ok, sorry. it was worth a shot.04:30
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meuhloland -6% -7% on voldown04:31
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meuhlolbobstro it works, but i dunno where to change the amount :s04:31
bobstromeuhlol: i'm afraid i haven't seen that selection. i thought perhaps the wrong keycodes were being sent.04:32
mik21hello from barcelona!!!04:32
meuhlolbut the keys works nice, have a response04:32
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meuhlolbut amount, it's affraiding me04:32
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bobstromeuhlol: there are a lot of guides on this subject, but it doesn't seem to be standardized. what works for one keyboard model may be completely different from others.04:33
meuhlolhave u an link?04:33
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sonicGBi can has cheeze burger?04:33
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bobstromeuhlol: here's one for my logitech but it may not apply http://symlink.dk/linux/config/logitech/04:34
tennentshi04:34
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bobstromeuhlol: it may get you started at least.04:34
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meuhloli lookin04:34
tennentsanyone knows a dvb-s softcam for mythtv?????04:34
meuhlolbe back04:34
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bobstromeuhlol: the part on xev may be the key. on my latest keyboard, only half the keys respond.04:36
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lynxone1 know how i can install this?04:38
lynxokubuntu installer keeps erroring.04:38
lynxoit just crashes04:38
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ferret_0568In Kopete, how do I send PGP messages as is, without displaying a "This message is encrypted" message only?04:40
ferret_0568That message is useless!04:40
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ferret_0568I put one x instead of a dash in the "END PGP MESSAGE" header, and tell the other party to replace it with a dash, and then they say it doesn't work!04:41
thefirstdudecan  just change my sources.list from dapper to edgy to upgrade?04:41
ferret_0568Why does KDE have so many problems?04:41
ferret_0568With GNOME, none of this04:41
ferret_0568I like KDE better, just what to do with these silly problems?04:42
ferret_0568The other party is using Gaim04:42
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ferret_0568thefirstdude: no04:43
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tackatferret_0568: there's a channel "#kopete" ;-)04:44
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thefirstdudehow can I easily upgrade?04:45
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Agnar!upgrade | thefirstdude04:47
ubotuthefirstdude: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:47
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bobdhicksWhat's going on with "kai"?05:01
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BluesKaj!op05:01
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal05:01
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BluesKajflooding the ch with joins and quits05:01
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BluesKajMez, ban kai , he's flooding, with joins and quits05:02
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wolferinewow05:03
BluesKajthx Jucato05:03
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wolferinenfs is SOO much better than Samba05:03
wolferinelol05:03
Jucatook that wasn't pretty05:03
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BluesKajhow wolferine ?05:03
wolferineso easy to setup05:03
ferret_0568ok, KDE is going bye-bye, I'm sick of it already!05:03
wolferineferret_0568, Gnome is really nice05:03
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wolferinedespite what ppl say05:03
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BluesKajthen go join ubuntu05:04
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ferret_0568I would have liked KDE better, if it didn't have a million small bugs!05:04
jlbuenas05:04
ferret_0568Can't even send and receive files across AIM through Kopete!05:04
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ferret_0568bye05:04
wolferineum05:05
ferret_0568It's sad that KDE doesn't work...05:05
wolferinethat has nothing to do with KDE05:05
BluesKajsorry your experience wit it is so buggy , ferret_0568...bye05:05
wolferinelol05:05
jlalguien en espaol05:05
Dr_willisI agree with you wolferine05:05
Jucato!es | jl05:05
ubotujl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:05
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wolferinethanks jucato05:05
wolferinei have to get use to using that05:05
jlthanks05:05
Dr_willisof course if you give up on everything that has a few little bugs here and there.. well.. soon you give up on everything.05:05
kubuntu22!kopete | ferret_056805:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
wolferineif I knew the country code...05:06
wolferinelol05:06
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wolferineDr_willis, sent me back to winblows a time or two05:06
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BluesKajok , wolferine ,does nfs work better than samba on a mixed OS network ?05:06
ferret_0568One thing will save me, if I use Gaim, that would fix it, but then, I would still need a note taking app, a good one05:06
Dr_williswolferine,  then the spyware invasion sends you back to Linux.05:06
wolferineBluesKaj, of course not05:06
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wolferinebut why would I add in win :)05:06
wolferinehehe05:07
Jucatoferret_0568: basket?05:07
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wolferinetrue that Dr_willis05:07
wolferinelol05:07
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ferret_0568It has Kontact integration compiled in with Ubuntu's package05:07
ferret_0568I hate that05:07
Dr_williswolferine,  and its sicking the windows machines that ive had to 'rescue' from 'IM program' infections.. :)05:07
Dr_williswell lunch time.05:07
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ferret_0568And, I couldn't get BasKet to compile and actually work without crashing05:08
Jucatoferret_0568: huh? you can turn it off05:08
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ferret_0568Oh, I can?05:08
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ferret_0568Well...ok then05:08
Jucatoyeah...05:08
BluesKajhehe , ok then , my wife prefers windows and i  prefer linux> She has her pc and I have mine and we use samba to transfer files between pc's ...hence samba05:08
ferret_0568Thanks for that tip05:08
Jucatokontact integration is compiled and enabled in Kubuntu. doesn't mean it can't be turned off05:08
ferret_0568Can it be turned off by a check box?05:08
Jucatoit just means that you can integrate basket with kontact05:09
Jucatoferret_0568: Kontact Settings menu -> Configure Kontact -> Select Components button05:09
ferret_0568I can always turn it off by compiling a newer version05:09
ferret_0568thanks05:09
ferret_0568I got saved...05:09
ferret_0568I'll brb05:09
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Jucatoer... compiling a newer version to turn off something? O.o05:10
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Jucatowolferine: this page might help (regarding local ubuntu-channels) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:10
wolferinethanks Jucato05:10
wolferinehow about all the country codes :)05:10
wolferinehehe05:11
Jucatoof course, most of the time, you just need to remember es, fr, de, pl, pt, etc05:11
Jucatowolferine: it's in that page05:11
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Jucato(for me, the harder part is distinguishing between -es and -pt...05:11
ferret_0567_now, I'm going to install BasKet05:11
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wolferineah05:11
ferret_0567_And switch to Gaim soon...05:12
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wolferinei guess its like french and englsih :/05:12
Jucatoferret_0567_: for kopete issues, you can try asking in #kopete05:12
ferret_0567_I already did05:12
Jucatono luck?05:12
ferret_0567_They say my issue is not fixable05:12
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ferret_0567_Unless Kubuntu updates Kopete to a fixed version (it's a bug), then I'm stuck05:13
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Jucatoferret_0567_: which version has the fix?05:13
ferret_0567_I dunno05:13
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ferret_0567_And, I'm going to have to switch to KDM if I want to use KDE05:13
Jucatokubuntu feisty has the latest stable KDE/Kopete version. unless they are referring to an unreleased development version05:13
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ferret_0567_I am using Feisty05:14
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ferret_0567_GDM worked with KDE properly in Edgy05:14
iGadgetohwell05:14
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iGadgetoff we go05:14
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ferret_0567_The issue is that I only get a log out button, no shutdown or anything on the "Log out" dialog box05:14
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wolferineif I wanted to limit the number of irc connections off this computer, how could I do that?05:15
wolferineman what?05:15
Jucatoferret_0567_: that's a normal behavior if you use GDM to run KDE or KDM to run GNOME05:15
Jucatodue to how these *DM's work with their native DE's05:15
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ferret_0567_I really like the Aerials KDE color scheme05:16
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ferret_0567_I use it with the Polyester style05:16
wolferinepolyester?05:16
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ferret_0567_Yeah05:17
wolferinelol05:17
wolferinenice05:17
ferret_0567_It's included with Kubuntu05:17
JucatoPolyester is the default style for Kubuntu Feisty05:17
ferret_0567_It looks good with this color scheme05:17
ferret_0567_It is?05:17
Rebeccahey peoples, im running kubuntu on a dell d610. this laptop has a centrino with speedstep. it should run at about 1.7ghz when on AC but it always runs at 800mhz regardless.. any idea's how this is fixed?05:17
sasqwolferine: iptables05:17
wolferinereally?05:17
ferret_0567_Check the power manager05:17
wolferinethat will limit the number of irc connections?05:18
wolferineRebecca, how do you know it runs at 800?05:18
sasqwolferine: iptables controls the firewall, and the firewall should be able to contain such rules05:18
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Rebeccawolferine: cat /proc/cpuinfo05:18
jamehi05:18
wolferinesasq, never thought of that05:18
ferret_0567_That's a reliable source05:18
jameI cant get my K-panel up05:18
jamewhats wrong05:18
wolferineRebecca, on starting the system, which clock speed is recognized?05:19
jameits set to hide once muouse leaves top of it05:19
ferret_0567_Does she have powernowd running?05:19
jamebut it stopped working05:19
Rebeccawolferine: i'll check05:19
angasule_jame: does alt+F1 bring it back?05:19
jameyes05:19
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Jucatoangasule_: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", then go to Desktop -> Panels and configure your panel from there05:20
jamebut still when mouse leaves it after that is hides again05:20
wolferinesasq, would you be able to write a quick example of how user1 can only have 2 or less irc connections?05:20
wolferineor is it a bit complicated?05:20
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Jucatojame: check the Hiding settings of the Panel05:21
jamechanging it to stay up and them hide again helped05:21
jamenow it works again05:21
Jucatook05:21
jameany idea what caused it05:21
Jucatoa bug...05:21
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jamejacato - Orly05:21
Jucato(which happens a bit often... yet has no way to consistently reproduce)05:21
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jamebut has it been reported or solved what causes it to reproduce05:22
wolferineRebecca, i guess this is on another machine?05:22
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Jucatojame: like I said, there's no way to consistently reproduce it, therefore, no way to pin it down...05:23
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Jucatobut it has happened at times... and I think on Kubuntu only05:23
sasqwolferine: i sort of knew how to do womething similar with the old fw but dont know how it works in iptanles05:23
slow-motionhallo05:23
jamewell cant help then :(05:23
Rebeccawolferine: yeah, im checking the bios now.. hard to see what's recognised on boot because the dell bios doesn't show it.. ill check the boot log actually05:24
wolferinesasq, np05:24
wolferinejust thought it might be easy05:24
wolferineRebecca, it might take some Math :)05:24
jamejucato; anyway, thanks for your time05:25
ferret_0567_Yay, Basket works!05:25
Jucatojame: sure. glad it was fixed05:25
Jucatoferret_0567_: of course it does :)05:25
ferret_0567_How can I get it to look like Tomboy Notes in GNOME?05:25
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JucatoBasket is not a Tomboy-clone :)05:26
ferret_0567_Theres some way to do it05:26
ferret_0567_Similar to what I want05:26
Jucatofeel free to look around :)05:26
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ferret_0567_I like how the Kubuntu power manager switches my CPU to powersave mode when on battery automatically05:27
ferret_0567_And to Performance on battery05:27
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ferret_0567_err...AC05:27
kennethDoes anyone know when the stable iso files for 7.04 will be on ftp servers around the world?05:27
ferret_0567_My battery isn't too good, it's around 73% max capacity05:27
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wolferinekenneth, impatient :)05:28
kennethi have been waiting for severeal month :-)05:28
ferret_0567_Just upgrade to Feisty now05:28
wolferinehehe05:28
ferret_0567_It's stable05:28
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stdinkenneth: when it's released, it should be on all the mirrors about a day after (depends on the mirror)05:28
ferret_0567_I can't see a problem05:28
wolferineyeah, you can update it05:28
kennethIm currently using kubuntu 7.04 beta, but im upgrading and updating every day :-)05:29
ferret_0567_Except for my laptop freezing once a day if I leave the wireless card plugged in...but that's normal05:29
Jucatokenneth: then no need for you to get ISO's unless you're thinking of reinstalling05:30
ferret_0567_it happened with Edgy too, and FC605:30
nate_how can i give my self access to /dev/imput/js0 ??05:30
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wolferinekenneth, I am updating everyday as well :)05:30
kennethThat was my plan..05:30
ferret_0567_chmod it05:30
kennethSo i dont need to re-install?05:30
Rebeccawolferine: dmesg mentions a 1.73ghz cpu was found a couple of times during the boot sequence05:30
ferret_0567_Make user a group of...?05:30
Jucatokenneth: I might have something that would interest you. hold on a sec05:31
kenneth:-)05:31
Jucatokenneth: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/start-downloading-feisty-now-and-get-it-faster-on-release-day/05:31
nate_the user is already an admin05:31
ferret_0567_What is interesting is that already, the "development branch" banner has been removed above login already05:31
stdinJucato: 40405:31
wolferineRebecca, it should be in the BIOS, as to its speed05:31
nate_i have to use the sudo commands though to do anything05:32
chijinSomething has gone wrong, the page you're looking for can't be found.05:32
wolferinenot sure why the OS would change the clock speed05:32
wolferinebut I am sure its complicated05:32
Jucatostdin: hm? working here....05:32
kennethhehe05:32
Rebeccawolferine: stepping is enabled but it's the OS that is not controlling it properly05:32
stdinJucato: I get a "Something has gone wrong, the page you're looking for can't be found."05:32
Jucatostdin: ah wait...05:32
Rebeccawolferine: i do want it stepped down when unplugged :)05:32
ferret_0567_Mine works fine05:32
Rebeccawolferine: just not when plugged05:32
ferret_0567_ok, right click on the power manager...05:33
ferret_0567_click "Restore..."05:33
Jucatostdin, kenneth: ah sorry, the post was taken down because apparently it was not a good thing to do05:33
stdinheh05:33
wolferineah05:33
Jucatosorry :)05:33
wolferinenot sure Rebecca, sorry05:33
Jucatohttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/the-rsync-download-post-is-gone/05:33
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Rebeccawolferine: okay :)05:34
ferret_0567_Can you see "Mains Powered", and "Battery  Powered"05:34
ferret_0567_?05:34
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Rebeccaferret_0567_: where?05:34
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ferret_0567_Right click on the battery in the system tray, and click "Restore..."05:34
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ferret_0567_The battery is the power manager05:35
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ferret_0567_Now do you see those items?05:35
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ferret_0567_If you do, there'ss some settings about the CPU frequency scaling policy05:36
Rebeccaferret_0567_: hmmm.. maybe i need to update that app.. it opens but i don't have those options05:36
ferret_0567_When my system is battery powered, I have it set to Powersave05:36
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ferret_0567_ok, are you using Edgy, or Feisty?05:37
ferret_0567_I'm using Feisty05:37
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ferret_0567_It's really good, and stable, too\05:37
eukHow do I report what seems to be a problem with the packaging of Quanta Plus on Edgy?05:37
stdin!bug05:38
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:38
Rebeccaferret_0567_: how do i check version05:39
Rebecca6.1005:39
Rebeccai like numbers.. always forget the name05:39
eukstdin: So simple when you know :-) Thanks05:39
stdinnp :)05:39
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ferret_0567_ok, you should upgrade to Feisty05:40
ferret_0567_I'll get you a guide...05:40
Rebeccaferret_0567_: ill do that when im not shaped :)05:40
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Jucatoalthough, since feisty will be released tomorrow, that won't be necessary05:41
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Jucato(the dist-upgrade tool will be made available from the regular repositories, iirc)05:41
kennethWhat IRC network is this channel on?05:43
Jucatokenneth: freenode05:43
stdinfreenode05:43
ferret_0567_You know, the "development branch" marker has already been removed05:43
kennethahh05:43
kennethnever been here before05:43
ferret_0567_Freenode is awesome05:43
kennethWho is running this freenode network?05:44
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stdin!freenode05:44
ubotufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml05:44
Jucatotralalala05:44
Jucatofast fingers05:44
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kennethIs this channel related to Canonical in any way?05:46
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Jucatokenneth: no05:46
wolferinewhat is required to do a network install?05:46
Jucatoer this channel?05:46
Jucatoor you mean this network?05:46
nixternalno, like a netboot install I think05:46
nixternal!netboot05:47
Jucatooh sorry, that was for kenneth05:47
wolferinenixternal, talking to me?05:47
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:47
nixternalwolferine: yes, sorry05:47
wolferinegive me just a few lines, whats required05:47
kennethI mean this channel. Are there any *buntu developers here?05:47
wolferineCD to boot?05:47
nixternalwolferine: I think the top one will explain the netboot install05:47
wolferinethen a site to dl from05:47
nixternalI have never done a netboot with Kubuntu05:47
stdinkenneth: probably, tho there are more in the -devel channels05:47
wolferineah05:47
wolferinek05:47
Jucatokenneth: well, not all developers are directly releated to Canonical anyway :)05:48
stdinkenneth: #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu-devel etc..05:48
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tinyxhelllo05:49
ferret_0567_ok, I'm switching to Gaim, brb05:49
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tinyxHow do I open a program that I installed with wine?05:49
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Jucato!away > dhq05:49
stdintinyx: "wine /path/to/app.exe" is one way05:50
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zerothiswine program.exe05:50
ferret_0568back05:50
kennethI have been using Ubuntu since version 4.10. As of version 7.04 im using Kubuntu.05:50
stdintinyx: or you can do: wine "C:\Program Files\App\App.exe" too05:50
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ferret_0568About the name: Kopete appends "_" automatically to your regular name, if it's not available. Gaim just increments/decrements a number when your regular nick isn't available05:51
tinyxIs there any way I can put an Icon on my desktop for easier opening?05:51
ferret_0568Easy05:51
ferret_0568Right-click on the desktop andf go to new05:52
Cosmo_in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?05:52
stdintinyx: yeah, there should be an entry in the kmenu too05:52
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ferret_0568You can right-click on that entry too05:52
Rebeccaare Feisty ISOs available?05:52
ferret_0568See, you don't need app installers to automatically put icons on the desktop :)05:52
stdinRebecca: yeah, tho the final release iso isn't yet05:53
ferret_0568You can do it yourself with minimal fuss05:53
Rebeccastdin: okay, ill be patient05:53
ferret_0568You can upgrade now05:53
tinyxhum..all I get is the splash screen when I try to open it05:53
ferret_0568It's easy, and like I said, the "development branch" marker has been removed05:53
ferret_0568Canonical is rolling the ISO right now, I bet05:54
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Rebeccanah. bandwidth shaped right now.. an iso download would be okay because i could stop/start it easily thouhg05:54
ferret_0568Oh, BitTorrent?05:54
Rebeccabut it's all good, ill wait05:54
ferret_0568Some ISP's shape that05:54
Rebeccaferret_0568: on 7KB down? no thanks ;)05:54
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ferret_0568That slow?05:55
ferret_0568What are you using?05:55
ferret_0568I'm using Road Runner05:55
Rebeccaadsl2+05:55
Rebeccaum.. tpg..05:55
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Rebeccain australia05:55
Dr_willisVeggimite Sandwiches ? :)05:55
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Rebeccaanyway. time to crash. thanks for the help ferret_0568 n wolferine :)05:56
wolferinek05:56
wolferinenp05:56
Rebeccaill see how feisty goes :)05:56
Dr_willis'food from around the world' :)   whats weird here is normal there. lol.05:56
Dr_willisFeisty is working good here for me.05:56
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Dr_willisa few little issuew here and there.. but nothing major so far05:57
ferret_0568Oh, I had one issue05:57
ferret_0568That was easy to fix :)05:57
ferret_0568I'm hungry...brb05:57
Dr_willisIve noticed that the Samba stuff seems a bit.. different then the older releases.05:58
tinyxDoes Kubuntu have a Task Manager like Windows does?05:58
tinyxYou know when you press CTRL-05:58
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tinyxALT05:58
tinyxahh...sry05:58
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Dr_willistinyx,  hit alt-ctrl-del? or wa it some other keys.. theres a simile rthing05:59
ferret_0568You can assign that key combo to ksysguard05:59
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stdintinyx: Ctrl-Esc (default)05:59
ferret_0568I like that05:59
coreymon77well, ctrl+alt+bkspc restarts x05:59
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Dr_willisyea dont do that one. :)06:00
ferret_0568X is the GUI06:00
ferret_0568Windows is GUI only06:00
stdinCtrl-Alt-Del just reboots, so that that either06:00
JohnFluxferret_0568: ksysguard is a bit slow to load though - it will be better in kde406:00
stdin*not that06:00
coreymon77then again, when would you really need a ctrl+alt+delete combinatiuon on linux06:00
Jucatoferret_0568: actually, X isn't the GUI though. it's even lower than that06:00
Dr_willisunder X at this time i just saw alt-ctrl-del - pops up a logout/restart requestor.06:01
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coreymon77noly windoze neds that06:01
coreymon77only*06:01
coreymon77meh06:01
ferret_0568Infact, it's GUI is so deeply integrated into the system, it's in the Windoze NT kernel itself06:01
coreymon77i usually just use xkill06:01
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-del on the console = go to 'reboot' runlevel.06:01
tinyxthx guys i figured it out06:01
tinyxthats awesome06:01
stdincoreymon77: in case you don't want to go in to a dialog to reboot or dont want to type the command in shell06:02
coreymon77if somethings acting up for me, i usually just xkill it06:02
ferret_0568That's why the GUI in Windoze is so fast, no CPU context switches when drawing graphics06:02
coreymon77oh\06:02
ferret_0568But, you can slow down Windoze easily :-P06:02
coreymon77ferret_0568: windoze, fast?!!! since when?!!! those 2 words are oxymorons!!!06:02
stdinferret_0568: like turn it on :p06:02
ferret_0568When you first get it, it's fast06:03
tinyxIts very possible for Windows to be fast.06:03
coreymon77ya06:03
tinyxLinux will take much more of beating though before it slows done06:03
Dr_willisbut then you boot the first time. :)06:03
ferret_0568Yup06:03
coreymon77but install 1 thing on it and bam06:03
tinyxOne thing?06:03
tinyxnahh..06:03
coreymon77true06:03
coreymon77not even06:03
stdinyeah, IE06:03
coreymon77LOL06:03
tinyxIf you take care of it, it will work better.06:03
ferret_0568LOL06:03
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ferret_0568I hate taking "care of it"06:03
tinyxWell Ubuntu has everything you need already installed..06:03
ferret_0568Yeah06:03
tinyxand whatever else is in the repos06:03
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Dr_williswhen i do an instll of windows.. i normaly have to spend a few hrs UNINSTALLING stuff  - darn shovel ware that dell and others put on the systems.06:04
ferret_0568See how *slow* it is?06:04
tinyxWindows runs of third-party software06:04
ferret_0568Mwahahaha!06:04
ferret_0568Me too06:04
ferret_0568I saw on my Dad's work computer, Yahoo Music Jukebox06:04
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coreymon77anyways06:04
lxuserhola repositorios amule kubuntu edgy?06:04
ferret_0568Dude, you got a Dell!06:04
ferret_0568A bunch of junk software06:05
tinyxI used to have a dual-booted computer... one side had Windows 2000 for Internet, E-Mail, and IM06:05
coreymon77you guys want to know what the number 1 biggest oxymoron of the century is?06:05
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tinyxand the other had XP for gaming, etc.06:05
stdinlxuser: universe06:05
firecrotch!info amule06:05
tinyxBut I don't game as much as I used too... so I never got on XP06:05
ubotuamule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB06:05
ferret_0568At least Dell put FLAC and OGG support into WMP06:05
coreymon77biggest oxymoron of the century: Microsoft Works06:05
ferret_0568I can't install Winamp, he'll get mad06:05
lxuserstdin: universe ok :s xD , thank06:05
tinyxI use Limewire for downloading music06:06
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coreymon77okay06:06
coreymon77so06:06
Rictoohow would I remove stuff from startup?06:06
tinyxI'm content with Kubuntu.. it has everything I need.06:06
coreymon77how did we get into this conversation06:06
tinyxI'd like to have MySpaceIM... haha06:06
ferret_0568Use Wine06:06
Rictootinx: Wine ;)06:06
tinyxI'm trying06:06
coreymon77wine06:06
RictooHow would I remove stuff from startup?06:06
tinyxit wont start when I do that with konsole06:06
Rictoolik programs that startup when the computer starts06:06
coreymon77Rictoo: what kind of stuff06:07
RictooHow would I remove programs fro startup? like msconfig on windows06:07
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ferret_0568ok06:07
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Rictoolike stuff in the tray06:07
ferret_0568I'll tell you06:07
ferret_0568Oh06:07
Rictoocoreymon77: Like stuff in the tray.06:07
ferret_0568Well, for that, somebody else06:07
Dr_willisRictoo,  normally you can 'close' the program and when you logout/back in it rembers and does not restart them06:07
ferret_0568But, for system services, I can tell you06:07
RictooI have a HORRIBLE wireless connection thing called KNetDockApp06:07
tinyxCan somebody help me with using Wine to install MySpaceIM06:07
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Dr_willistried  -->  wine myspaceiminstaller.exe06:08
Dr_willisor whatever its called.06:08
ferret_0568I don't use Samba (Windoze File Sharing) or SSH (remote command line access), so I disabled it06:08
RictooGuys, is there anyway to get some wireless conenction manager that tries to reconnect when it disconnects?06:08
ferret_0568install knetworkmanager06:08
coreymon77Rictoo: why is in disconnecting06:08
Rictoook06:08
Rictoocoreymon77: Just normal stuff06:08
coreymon77it* not in06:08
ferret_0568For GNOME, nm-applet06:08
RictooI have a horrible house configuration =p06:08
Rictoothe routers downstairs06:09
Rictoosometimes it losses the signal =p06:09
Rictooloses*06:09
RictooSo KNetworkManager should work?06:09
ferret_0568Yeah06:09
ferret_0568I use it06:09
tinyxWhen I launch MySpaceIM it will open, and then close itself.06:09
Rictoook :D06:09
RictooIs there any manager especially for wireless, though?06:09
ferret_0568That one06:09
Rictoooh :O06:09
RictooThanks <306:09
ferret_0568Well...it can also manage ethernet06:09
ferret_0568But not by default06:09
RictooI'm looking forward to Feisty! :D06:09
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ferret_0568You have to put something in some file...06:10
slow-motionbye06:10
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coreymon77Rictoo: kwifi06:10
coreymon77!info kwifi06:10
ubotuPackage kwifi does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:10
coreymon77!info kwifimanager06:10
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ubotukwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 780 kB06:10
ferret_0568I wouldn't use that one06:10
Rictoooops06:10
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Rictooim alrady install kneyworkmanager06:11
Rictoo=/06:11
Rictooalready installing*06:11
Rictoonetowork*06:11
coreymon77ferret_0568: why not, i like it06:11
RictooI CANT SPELL OMG06:11
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ferret_0568Why does Kontact always create list.vcf*?06:11
ferret_0568That would be on my desktop...06:12
Rictoomy wireless connection is in eth106:12
ferret_0568It's getting annoying06:12
Rictoobut networkmanager doesn't recognize it06:12
ferret_0568My wireless connection is in ath006:12
tinyxDo I have to keep the terminal open the whole time the program is running?!06:12
ferret_0568What program?06:12
Rictooknetworkmanager06:12
ferret_0568Yeah06:12
Rictoohow would I get it to recognize where my conection it? =p06:12
coreymon77tinyx: yup, if you run it from the terminal06:12
ferret_0568You could have just pressed Alt+F206:12
bobdhicksNewbie question. I tried installing a Windows program using Wine. It didn't work. Can I remove the program by deleting the directory where it is installed, without causing any problems?06:12
ferret_0568or typed: nohup knetworkmanager06:13
tinyxIs there any other way to run it06:13
Rictoo?06:13
Rictooferret_0568: You're confusing me06:13
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RictooWhenever i opened it, it said I was disconnected06:13
stdinwlassistant maybe06:13
ferret_0568Well...nohup is advanced06:13
Rictoobut I'm not06:13
stdin!info wlassistant06:13
ubotuwlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 572 kB06:13
RictooLOLok06:13
RictooI'' just use that XD06:13
zerothiswhich wifi manager is easiest for automagically connecting on boot and when in range of known networks?06:13
ferret_0568Press Alt+F2 and type in knetworkmanager or whatever and press ok or enter06:13
Rictoostdin, I already have that06:13
meuhlolhi06:13
meuhlolsomeone can help me please? how can i read a ASF files in kubuntu?06:14
Rictooferret_0568: I did06:14
Rictoobut I'm saying, it thinks I'm dc'ed06:14
RictooHow do I make it use eth1 ?06:14
ferret_0568I dunno06:15
Rictoo...06:15
ferret_0568eth* is usually for ethernet06:15
RictooI know06:15
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Rictoobut my card wasn't supported, so I did some 1337 h4x06:15
Rictoo...06:15
stdinmeuhlol: you probably need w32codecs06:15
stdin!w32codecs06:15
coreymon77Rictoo: and what card is this06:15
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:15
Rictooand so I ended up with eth1 as wireless =p06:15
Rictooer06:15
RictooI forgot :O06:15
ferret_0568I think you can fix that06:15
RictooI forgot the chipset =/06:15
coreymon77Rictoo: find it out06:15
Rictooits ok06:15
Rictoomy connection works06:15
Rictoothat's all that matters =p06:15
Rictoolemme try kwifimanager06:16
coreymon77Rictoo: ya but, if it works natively, without mucking around, thats better06:16
Rictootrue06:16
ferret_0568Oh, knetworkmanager is what I'm using06:16
coreymon77Rictoo: whats the chipset06:16
RictooI used... GAH I FORGET THE NAME06:16
RictooI didn't use ndiswrapper..06:16
aaroncampbellHow can I get the temperatures from my HDDs via Kubuntu Feisty06:16
Rictoosomething with 'fire' in it's name, I think06:16
Rictoocoreymon77: I said, I forgot =p06:16
coreymon77Rictoo: do you knwo what the card is?06:16
ferret_0568Well...I have a fix for knetworkmanager06:16
coreymon77Rictoo: just the card06:16
Rictoohmm06:16
Rictoolemme try to remember06:17
Rictoo........06:17
Rictooisn't the something I can ype command line?06:17
Rictooto see?06:17
coreymon77i dunno06:17
coreymon77does anybody know of a command to see what network card/chipset you are using06:17
ferret_0568lspci06:17
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Rictooow06:18
meuhlolstdin i know but after install & overwrite dont work :s06:18
coreymon77Rictoo: you heard him06:18
RictooI think this thign I used to get my card working on linux made ubuntu think it was ethernet06:18
RictooNO WONDER IT ISN'T RECONNECTING06:18
coreymon77Rictoo: that commadn should tell you06:18
Rictooeth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:41:62:BA:26 inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.006:18
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RictooUbuntu thikns it's ethernet -.-06:18
RictooNot good....06:18
ferret_0568Rictoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager06:18
coreymon77yup06:18
coreymon77thats would be a problem06:18
wolferinemaking your box into a DHCP server is just like utilizing it as a router, correct?06:18
coreymon77Rictoo: we need to know what card you are using06:18
Rictoook06:19
stdincoreymon77: lspci (for PCI), lsusb (for USB) and lspcmcia (for PCMCIA)06:19
Rictoolemme try to remember06:19
Rictoo...06:19
ferret_0568Link encap: Ethernet is normal06:19
ferret_0568If it's named as eth*, that's not normal06:19
jamewhat is the virtual machine application that newest kernel supports06:19
jame(feisty)06:19
Rictoook06:19
RictooWMP54G06:19
coreymon77Rictoo: laptop or desktop06:19
RictooI don't remmber t chipset06:19
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Rictoodesktop06:20
RictooI don't remember the chipset =/06:20
coreymon77ill find that out06:20
RictooOH06:20
RictooOk06:20
RictooI used a program called 'fwcutter'06:20
Rictooto get it working under Ubuntu06:20
Rictooand it works :D06:20
RictooOH06:20
RictooThe chipset is:06:20
RictooBCM43xx06:20
Rictoono idea what xx is06:21
Rictoo=/06:21
ferret_0568Rictoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager06:21
Rictoobut coreymoon is looking into it06:21
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ferret_0568Your wireless card is eth1?06:21
Rictooyeah06:21
Rictoofwcutter made it that06:21
Rictoofor some reason06:21
Rictoo..06:21
ferret_0568That guide will fix it06:21
ferret_0568Just wait though06:21
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Rictoooh06:22
Rictookwifimanager works06:22
Rictoo...06:22
coreymon77it does?06:24
coreymon77anyways, you have a broadcom chip, with usually uses ndis06:24
ferret_0568BasKet is very close to Tomboy notes06:24
coreymon77so if it works now, leave it06:24
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coreymon77no reason to be messing with ndis if we dont need to\06:25
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cheeseboywhy am i getting port 6881 is blacklisted from torrents?06:25
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qkeySelam06:27
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stdin!tr | qkey06:29
ubotuqkey: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.06:29
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Tm_Tsalami <306:30
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coreymon77okay...06:32
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coreymon77akward silence06:34
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LjLBOO06:36
coreymon77somebody say something!!!06:36
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jujehmufehheya guys06:36
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Tm_Tstdin: are you somebody?06:36
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jujehmufehI was thinking, is kubuntu 7.04 stable enough so I can do my job without any problems?06:37
coreymon77wait for tomorrow06:37
stdinTm_T: I'm A somebody :)06:37
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coreymon77final is released tomorrow right?06:37
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coreymon77!feisty06:37
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)06:37
Tm_Tstdin: interesting name you got06:37
jujehmufehcoreymon77: it is released tomorrow?06:37
jujehmufehI don't like it.06:37
jujehmufehi mean, I don't like the name "feisty"06:37
coreymon77!schedule06:37
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases06:37
jujehmufeh!dapper06:38
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".06:38
Tm_Tjujehmufeh: then wait next release? ;--P06:38
jujehmufeh!edgy06:38
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes06:38
stdinTm_T: found it while I was board, wasn't used in a few years, so I grabbed it06:38
jujehmufehTm_T: lol :D06:38
coreymon77well06:38
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Tm_Tstdin: A Somebody, I wonder what law allows one letter names06:38
coreymon77sometime soon06:38
stdinTm_T: heh, no A as on "one of", ie: i'm not a nobody, I'm a somebody06:39
jujehmufehstdin: nobody is perfect. My name is nobody.06:40
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Tm_Tstdin: looks like you didn't get my joke, don't worry, nobody does06:40
Tm_TI just wonder who's this mr nobody then, I hear him laughing in backrow06:40
stdinTm_T: I got it after you said "I wonder what law allows one letter names" :)06:40
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RictooHow would I uninstall my wireless card driver?06:42
RictooI want to start all over with ndiswrappre =p06:42
ferret_0568I don't like that the KDE Wallet Manager always wants to open. How do I shut it off?06:42
Rictooferret_0568: How would I uninstall my wireless card driver? =/06:42
ferret_0568I dunno06:43
Rictoo...06:43
ferret_0568I haven't had any experience with fwcutter06:43
jujehmufehRictoo: how did you install it?06:43
stdinRictoo: I suppose you could just unload the module, then blacklist it06:44
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Rictoowell06:45
Rictoowith fwcutter06:45
Rictooit generated the driver files, and then I moved the files to some folder06:45
Rictooforgot which xD06:45
Rictoo...06:45
Rictoowhat a horrible hack :O06:45
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jujehmufeh>_>06:46
jujehmufehdownload it again06:46
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jujehmufehthen, do "make uninstall"06:46
jujehmufehor was it a .deb?06:46
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jujehmufehRictoo: sorry, i can't help people who can't type... >_>06:48
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carlos_Any one has problems loading mininova in opera 9.2 (using feisty)?06:48
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rstancacarlos_: works for me...06:51
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apushow would I go about mounting an ISO to install something06:52
Jucato!iso06:52
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:52
qkeyhi06:53
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milchwhat time feisty will be released?06:53
Dr_willismilch,  when its done. :)06:53
apusand I can mount as many as I want?06:53
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Dr_willismilch,  heh - this gets asked like crazy when ever the new releases come out.. have patience.06:54
ferret_0568milch: Most likely tomorrow06:54
carlos_rstanca: is working for me now, but didn't for two days :?06:54
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milchi think about keep awake but i dont know if this is useful06:54
carlos_rstanca: do you have any problems with flash?06:55
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apusanyway I can get a context menu to appear for isos06:55
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rstancacarlos_: nothing yet, still I don`t use the feisty box too much06:56
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apusmount: can't find /mount/data1/ISOs/matlab/R2006bUnixLinuxMacCD1/R2006bUnixLinuxMacCD1.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:57
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arnorhello World!06:57
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apuscan someone help me mount isos06:58
arnordid someone test Kubuntu 7.04 beta?06:58
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apusI'm on it arnor06:58
arnorapus: did you see the man page of mount?06:58
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milchthe server which serves ubuntu.com is placed in uk. so feisty will be released 0:00 cet -1 (gmt) ? ;-)06:58
arnorapus: which filesystem do you use with Kubuntu?06:58
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apus2 partitions on ntfs, 2 on ext3 and 1 on fat3206:59
Horschthi, it's me again. ubuntu_, ubuntu__ and Horscht86 from yesterday06:59
arnorapus: so you don't use ReiserFS?06:59
apusdon't even know what that is06:59
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arnorI just tried to upgrade my Xubuntu 6.10 to Kubuntu 7.04b06:59
arnorbut it does not work :(06:59
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Horschti am so close to using kubuntu as my default (and only) OS: |-|07:00
Horschtbut i got 2 questions still07:00
jujehmufeharnor: how did you try to upgrade?07:00
arnordoes someone know the command to format a ReiserFS parition?07:00
jujehmufehHorscht: shoot them :P07:00
arnorjujehmufeh: with a liveDVD07:00
mhaynesCan someone advise the simplest reliable way to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)07:00
pacmanDoes anyone know if there is a driver for Linux so that I can add/delete music from my Sansa MP3 player?07:00
jujehmufeharnor: use fdisk/cfdisk/qparted or some other formatting applications07:00
jujehmufeh*application07:00
BluesKajreiserfs isn't used with (k)ubuntu , ext is the the deafault fs07:01
Horscht1. when i used the live CD and tried to set my resolution to 1400x1050, i got a messed up screen and had to revert back to 1024x78607:01
arnorjujehmufeh: ok, I'll see. Thanks ;)07:01
jujehmufehpacman: how does your mp3 handle music? like iPod, with a special application, or like a normal, say, creative muvo mp3 player, with directories and stuff?07:01
apussomeone told me to mount iso "sudo mount -o loop <file>" but it didn't work07:01
BluesKajerr default07:01
Horschtwill this be resolved after installing it?07:01
pacmanit worked fine for a couple weeks, now I can't add or delete....07:01
jujehmufehHorscht: you might want to check the forums or wiki, I am sure other people will have had the same problem before.07:01
jujehmufehbrb07:01
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pacmanjujehmufeh: I had just been accessing it with Konqueror07:01
apuswould anyone be interested in knowing that the version of k3b that comes with 7.0.4 can't burn cd's, and it needs to be updated before it has any functionality07:02
ferret_0568Sorry, my system almost ran out of juice07:02
pacmanbut now it seems like a permissions issue, even though the permissions are right07:02
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pacman.07:02
Horscht2. when I ran kubuntu from live CD, i got an error message after the kubuntu splash/loading screen, telling me "Buffer I/O error on device fd0 logical block 0"07:02
Horschtafter about a minute, it started kubuntu, though07:03
Horschtwhat's fd0, and how can i prevent the error?07:03
ferret_0568If you don't have a floppy drive, you'll get that error07:03
arnorjujehmufeh: I will try mkreiserfs07:03
milchfd0 is floppy drive afaik07:03
ferret_0568fd0 is first floppy drive07:03
Horschtdon't have one, correct07:03
ferret_0568fd1 is second floppy drive07:03
ferret_0568and so on07:04
ferret_0568I don't have a floppy drive either07:04
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Horschtso basicaly it checks for a floppy drive on bootup? Can i disable this check?07:04
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ferret_0568Not on a live cd07:04
milchmaybe the floppy drive is enabled in the bios07:04
Horschtbut on an install? cool07:05
ferret_0568I believe so07:05
ferret_0568Linux is so customizable07:05
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Horschtok, gonna check the resolution issue on the wiki then, and then mabye off i am07:05
Horschtthanks07:05
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apussudo -o loop -t <file> <mount location>  ??07:08
apussudo mount*07:08
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milch-t filesystem07:08
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milchit should work without -t07:08
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wolferineanyone ever use LDAP?07:09
apus"sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> "07:09
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apusthats what someone said earlier07:09
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milchyes wolferine07:09
wolferineuseful?07:10
milchwith samba auth07:10
wolferineAsterisk?07:10
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milchno, but this is very interesting07:10
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wolferinemilch, did you setup yourself?07:11
milchyes07:11
jujehmufehback07:11
jujehmufehwhat did I miss?07:11
wolferinefor what?07:11
on3hi :)07:11
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milchi setup an ldap server for samba authentification07:11
wolferineah07:12
wolferineso something small07:12
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milchyes07:13
wolferinedo you have a link/tutorial?07:13
milchmom07:13
wolferinesorry?07:13
apuswhats the command to comment all highlighted lines in kate07:14
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malik_i know its very vague but .......... lately my installation of kubuntu edgy is starting to freeze alot.......any one have same problem?..........mine got worse after i uninstalled amarok1.4.5 coz it was too slow........and reinstalled 1.4.3.........could that be the reason?07:14
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LeeJunFananyone know of a dialog editor for python/kde ?07:14
milchwolferine this is german speakin but its correct http://www.ctserver.org/viewtopic.php?t=500&highlight=ldap07:14
milchit works07:14
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wolferine:)07:14
wolferinetoo bad I do not speak German :)07:14
wolferineare you good at English?07:15
milchdepends on my level of alcohol07:15
wolferinehehe07:15
wolferinehave you heard of the band Tool?07:16
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coxapus, I reported the k3b problem as bug #26826, which has been confirmed07:16
milchsounds familiar but i cant remember07:16
wolferineok07:16
wolferinenevermind then07:16
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fdovingapus: ctrl-d07:17
milchwolferine the ldap authentication doesnt work with edgy, it works with dapper. i have not tested feisty07:17
Horschtmight check back later if i need anymore help07:17
Horschtthanks so far07:18
wolferinemilch, well its in German, so I probably wont give it a try07:18
wolferineand I am using Edgy, so maybe that would be good :)07:18
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BergettoWhere can I go for help?07:29
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blekosanyone know the internet release time of ubuntu?07:30
blekosor what time is going to be released and in which country?07:31
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jhutchinsblekos: http://www.ubuntu.com/ still says "Tomorrow", the 19th.07:31
blackflagHello all :)07:31
manuel_hola07:31
Faralelhello07:31
jhutchinsMandriva announced their relese today, mirrors are hammered.07:31
manuel_qu tal?07:32
jhutchinsNo way I'm going to get a net install to work today.07:32
blackflagI want to ssee which users are connected the last days. How can I do this?07:32
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blackflagvia ssh07:32
manuel_soy nuevo en esto as que bueno07:32
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apusdoes anyone have any experience installing matlab?07:32
blekosi know, but i'd like to know the time difference with my country... i cant wait...!!!!07:33
manuel_Algn espaol?07:33
blekosdoes anybody now if compiz will be included (but not enabled) in the kubuntu version as well?07:33
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manuel_no espaoles?07:34
jhutchinsblekos: Doesn't compiz use gnome?07:35
jhutchins!es | manuel_07:35
ubotumanuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:35
FaraKubuntu instalation is very long :/07:35
jhutchinsblackflag: sudo last07:35
manuel_gracias!07:35
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jujehmufehFara: tru gentoo...07:35
blekosdont know...07:35
jujehmufehmanuel_: habla espanol?07:35
jujehmufeh*hablas07:35
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manuel_hablo hablo07:35
Faragentoo is difficult no?07:35
internet_germany??07:35
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FaraI'm very bad in english ^^'07:36
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apusyou sound fine ot me fara07:37
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internet_spricht hier keiner deutsch?07:38
jujehmufehmanuel_: bien :D como estas? :P07:38
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blackflagthanks! :)07:38
manuel_jujehmufeh: bien, aunque soy nouevo aqu07:38
manuel_nuevo07:39
apuswhen I run a executable by clicking on it i get a slash screen, but thats it, if I strace it from konsole it works07:39
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apusactually, ./matlab works just fine07:40
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apusbut clicking on the matlab executable doesn't work07:40
apusand it didn't makea  shortcut in the programs menu07:40
jujehmufehmanuel_: soy da Grecia :) No hablo espanol veramente. Queira mucho hablar el espanol, pero no puedo :P I am learning portuguese, though :P07:40
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SkowronHello07:41
pueppchenhola07:41
FaraFrench and quite bad in english :s07:41
manuel_hola07:41
jhutchinsapus: that's because your home directory is not in your path.07:41
jhutchinsapus: Make a desktop shortcut to the full pathname and it should run.07:42
jhutchinsapus: Did you compile it from source?07:42
Skowroni have my own program and i want start it from console like other commands eg: mcedit or ls07:42
pueppchenbye07:42
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manuel_jujehmufeh hablas muy bien espaol07:42
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jujehmufehmanuel_: lol, graias :P07:43
Skowronwitchout all patch (i want type my_progrogram frome any directory)07:43
stamenhi, how to check version of KDE07:43
Skowron07:43
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jhutchinsstamen: help/about KDE in any KDE app.07:44
apusjhutchins, no I didn't compile it, the shortcut gets the splash screne but that is it07:44
apusthe only way I have gotten it to run is through console07:45
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jhutchinsSkowron: Put it somewhere in your path then.07:45
stamenoo, yes, that was :)07:45
stamenthank you07:45
FaraHow long during kubuntu instalation?07:45
MegaVolthi, im having a kvpnc problem:  http://rafb.net/p/ftBTWE44.html   i can connect but after 60s it will disconnect and reconnect automatically - how can i make a constant vpn connection ?07:45
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jhutchins!fhs | Skowron07:45
ubotuSkowron: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux07:45
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jhutchinsapus: matlab?07:46
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apusyes07:48
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daglohello07:48
hendriciushey guys !07:48
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hendriciusI have a question: I had to reinstall my Kubuntu. Now I open the Adept Manager and I do not find a lot of Files anymore... Can anyone recommend me some repositories?07:49
hendriciuse.g putty dissapeared from the list07:50
hendriciussorry for my newby questions.07:50
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what_ifhendricius: in synaptic goto settings, repositories and turn them all on07:51
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what_ifhendricius: except mabey source code, and may want to turn the CDROM off07:51
hendriciussynaptic ? ^^07:52
hendriciussorry I have been using Vista Ultimate before....07:52
what_ifhendricius: the package manager program07:52
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what_ifyou are running kubuntu right ?07:52
jhutchins!easysources | hendricius07:52
ubotuhendricius: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:52
N6REJhow can I turn off ipv6 globablly?07:52
N6REJmorning jhutchins07:53
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jhutchinsN6REJ: Morning (not any more here, but...) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv407:53
N6REJjhutchins: true, its after noon almost 1300 now07:53
what_ifhows the beryl kde support ?07:53
jhutchinswhat_if: Lousy.07:54
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hendriciusthansk, I created the sources list07:54
VR_who needs beryl when you have native transparency stuff in kde07:54
hendriciuswhere must I paste it ?07:54
BluesKajhendricius, you could try this site : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_EasyUbuntu07:54
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what_ifN6REJ: rmmod ipv607:54
what_ifN6REJ: whats the name mean ??07:54
hendriciusnvm found07:54
N6REJwhat_if: its my ham radio call07:54
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what_ifwhat_if: KL4YFD07:55
what_if:)07:55
what_ifhihi07:55
N6REJnice to meet you.07:55
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hendriciusaaah ok thanks07:56
hendriciusgood Idea07:56
hendricius:)07:56
apusso when I type out the full path in konsole I can start matlab07:58
apusbut a shortcut to matlab, with full path, doesn't work, neither does clicking the executable07:58
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what_ifapus: make a small script that starts it in the konsole08:00
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what_ifapus: or a shortcut that " runs in terminal"08:00
apuswhats the modifier to start it in background, so closing the konsole wont close the program08:00
[Relic] Where is the config file for the panel configuration?08:00
apuswhat extension does a script have to be08:00
what_ifapus: does not matter08:01
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apusI dont know how to make a script08:02
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jhutchinsapus: Modifier is "&"; linux doesn't care about extensions, but the script should be marked as executable, be sure to use #!/bin/<shell> to specify what shell it should use.08:03
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apusshell?08:03
johnny_k08:03
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jhutchinsapus: sh, bash, dash.08:03
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jhutchinsapus: The shell is the software that runs commands, it's what you're "in" if you're in a console.08:03
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apusah okay, I use bash08:04
what_ifwhat repository would have the win32codecs and dvd playing software ?08:04
what_ifI already have canonical08:04
apusso I made a file, made it executable, and when I run the file it runs the program08:04
apusbut when I run a shortcut to that file it doesn't08:05
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jhutchinsapus: Does the shortcut use the full path?08:05
apusyes08:05
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beigHello08:06
apusit gets to the splash screen but thats it, the only way it has opened all the way is with konsole08:06
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apuswait, myabe I found the issue08:07
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apusthe command bin/runmatlab (runmatlab is the script) doesn't run it08:07
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apusbut if im in the folder, ./runmatlab, does08:07
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beighow can i disable X to start when i start my PC ? i tried to rename the S70x11-common to K70x11-common in the /etc/rcS.d/ dir but it didnt worked :(08:08
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korrxhi all08:08
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BluesKajwell gents ,  is Feisty officially released tomorrow ?08:09
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what_ifbeig: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove08:09
what_ifbeig: of kdm, or xdm08:09
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aldinhow to play .amr files?08:10
what_ifbeig: of course if you've been manually moving things around it may get confused08:10
beigwhat_if: but can i still start the x server if i want ?08:10
[Relic] is there no way of moving the kmenu in the panel, and I need to figure out a way of getting the computer button back too  :(08:11
what_ifbeig: yes, just /etc/init.d/gdm start08:11
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beigmhhh, there is no gdm or kdm08:11
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aldinhow to play .amr files?08:12
what_ifbeig: what do you use ? xdm ?08:12
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fdovingbeig: you're almost right. and you're using the best method. renaming from S* to K* is the only way those settintgs will survive upgrades. you're just looking at the wrong file. you should look for kdm or gdm if you're running ubuntu and gnome. and it's not in the rcS.d dir, it's probably in rc2.d/08:12
apus!paste | apus08:12
beigi'm runing kubuntu with kde08:12
what_ifbeig: then it should be kdm08:12
fdovingbeig: then you should look for /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm and rename it to K99kdm08:13
beigok thx, there is a kdm file in rc2, i will try this as soon as possible, thx for your help :)08:13
apuscan someone look at these commands, im trying to run a program   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16286/08:14
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what_ifapus: cd to bin and then run the runmatlab  script08:16
Skowronexit08:16
what_ifapus: it references to PWD so if you are not in bin it fails08:17
apusbut one of them worked08:17
apusand one didn't08:17
apusoh08:17
apusthe script references pwd08:17
apusdidn't know thats how it worked08:17
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what_ifapus: yeah, PWD = ./08:18
apusmakes sense tho, so scritpts can work on any folder the same way08:18
what_ifapus: what does not make sense ?08:19
jhutchins!fhs | apus08:19
ubotuapus: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux08:19
jhutchinsHave a look at that.08:19
apusI said it does make sense08:19
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apusrunning the script from konsole  works, but running a shortcut to the script doesn't08:19
what_ifapus: mabey I should have some coffee... lol08:19
apusit gets a splash screen then quits08:19
what_ifapus: ma be that PWD thing again... try changing the working directory in the shortcut08:20
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what_ifapus: sry, "work path"08:20
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apusdoesn't seem to help, it does load the splash screen tho08:21
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nate_Hello08:22
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what_ifapus: without being there I dunno...08:22
apusdoes the konsole have some permission that a shortcut doesn't?08:22
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Dellilahhi everybody i'm doing a poll for a project in school, do you guys wanna help me? :)08:24
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what_ifapus: no, it just may have the PWD wrong, or the command may have to be run in the console08:24
what_ifDellilah: 4208:24
Dellilahwhat_if: :P08:25
apuscan I make a shortcut that opens a konsole, then executes it, then closes the konsole?08:25
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what_ifapus: yes08:26
DellilahWhich is the best disney movie you have ever seen? and what made you so intressed of it08:26
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what_ifapus: the advanced options tab at the bottom, run ion colsole/terminal08:26
apusaslo, is there a way I can use the gui browser to execute my script, clicking it just opens it in kate08:26
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apuswhere is the advanced options tab?  context menu of the script?08:27
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what_ifapus: right click and I think execute is an option... mabey08:27
VR_where can i get kubuntu stickers?08:28
what_ifapus: in the create new shortcut dialog08:28
VR_!stickers08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stickers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
what_ifapus: application tab08:28
what_if!win32codecs08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
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what_if!w32codecs08:28
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:28
apusokay found it, that works, now I just need to make it so it doesn't close matlab when I close the console, just add "&" to the end of the script line?08:29
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kubuntu22hey chaps, once the official release of feisty is upon us...for those of us using 7.04 beta, can we just do a simple upgrade to release?08:30
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what_ifapus: correct08:30
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BluesKajyup, that's what I was told kubuntu2208:31
apuslike /home/user/matlab/bin/runmatlab &?08:31
what_ifkubuntu22: #ubuntu+1 is the feisty channel :)08:31
blackflag!cluster08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
BluesKajwhat_if, ,lighten up :)08:31
BluesKajthey're most gnome guys over in #ubuntu+108:32
what_ifBluesKaj: that was a friendly comment08:32
BluesKajyeah, same here08:32
what_ifBluesKaj: hence the :)08:32
BluesKajyup08:32
apuswhat_if: when I add the & it doesn't do anything08:32
mackymanWhen tomorron will feisty be released?08:32
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kubuntu22thanks what_if & BluesKaj08:32
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MrBallZHi08:33
what_ifapus: thats odd08:33
MrBallZhow much longer until we have Feisty ?08:33
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apuswhen I type in the path in konsole, with &  it actually runs in the terminal, but its a gui program08:33
mackymanMrBallZ: Somewhen tomorrow ;)08:33
BluesKajmackyman , kubuntu22 ...we hope it'll be released tomorrow ..who knows when?08:34
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mackymanI guess there will be in the evening... Better to be late and shure than early and m$ ;)08:35
apusill ask our tech guy08:36
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MrBallZany news on a possible delay , regarding a problem with ide controllers ?08:38
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what_if!dvd08:43
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:43
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epimethahoy folks...  been a while08:48
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tattersHow do I change my ubuntu login too a kubuntu login screen?08:49
epimethhow's everybody doing?08:50
blueyedtatters: Install the "kdm" package.08:50
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blueyedtired, epimeth.08:50
tatterskdm iis installed08:51
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hak5fanIs there a way to reset kmix to the default settings?08:53
tattersI running feisty, installed kubuntu-desktop and kde ,kdm practically anything that started with a K :P  2 problems my screen resolution changes if I change session and my k/board settings aare uk for gnome and us for kubuntu08:54
tattersshouldnt desktop setting follow me whateever sesion I use?08:55
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N6REJwould someone please tell me if my site www.thewish.info loads quickly or slowly for you?08:57
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eXistenZWhen is feisty officially released?08:59
hak5fanN6REJ: Very quick but I have a 4.7 mbit connection08:59
zerothisN6REJ: its slow here08:59
KristofeXistenZ: That should be tomorrow.09:00
N6REJsee it should'nt be slow :(09:00
N6REJcan I ask where you folks are?09:00
hak5fanN6REJ: Norway09:00
N6REJI have my host on the line and need to explain to him09:00
KristofeXistenZ: See http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntudesktop70409:01
hak5fanIs there a way to reset kmix to the default settings?09:01
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jon_can someone help me get flash working?09:02
jon_im running on dapper09:02
jon_ive tried installing it twice09:03
N6REJzerothis: where are you pleasE?09:03
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zerothisthe stoneaged corner of the United States, Norther California. using a 1.5 mbps cable modem09:05
fergerwhen i go to shut down, the monitor goes black and it just sits there09:05
N6REJzerothis tyvm!09:05
fergeranyone else have this problem?09:05
jhutchinsferger: Laptop?09:05
fergerno desktop09:06
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jhutchinsferger: Try messing around with the noapci and noapic commands at boot.09:06
trond_How to set krusader as the default file manager in kde?09:06
jhutchinsferger: It has to do with the signal the system sends to the bios to shut down.09:06
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trond_I have tried "open with" and "remember" from the desktop icons but that did not work well. Krusader tries to launch than it crashes09:07
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pmgordonl09:08
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zerothisnot fammiliar with tyvm09:11
what_ifwhat program in kde puts usb drives on the desktop an in media:/  ??09:11
fdovingwhat_if: the mediamanager kded module, and kdesktop.09:12
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what_iffdoving: how wold I troubleshoot if they quit qorking ??09:13
what_iffdoving: it worked yesterday09:13
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intelikeywell i seem to know nothing at all about xorg.   my fonts are too tiny to read, and i have changed xorg > display >  Modes           "1280x1024"    and    Modes           "640x480"    it has no affect at all on the size of fonts09:26
intelikeyanyone that can shed some light on this for me ?09:26
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VSpikeintelikey: what driver are you using?09:30
trond_How to set krusader as the default file manager in kde?09:30
intelikeynv09:31
VSpikethe open one? Ah, ok.  I know the closed one basically ignores most of what you put in xorg.conf ... not sure about the open one09:32
VSpikeFont size is normally set by DPI, which is usually read directly from the monitor using EDID09:33
kartalhi i'm from germany09:34
kartalgreets for all users09:34
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VSpikeIf that's not working, you should be able to add a flag like UseEDIDDPI "false" or even UseEDID "false"... in the latter case you manually have to specify the refresh rates, physical width and height of the monitor. etc.09:34
intelikeyVSpike ok so how to get fonts large enough to read ?09:34
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intelikeyVSpike ok i'll try that09:35
VSpikeI know for the proprietary nvidia driver, all that behaviour and options is in the man page or docs, i forget which.  It is well documented anyway, and I'm sure it would be for nv too09:35
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intelikeyk09:35
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VSpikeThose flags are for nvidia-glx, so may not be the same.. but have a scan of the documentation for nv for something similar09:35
VSpikeI'm too no0b to know how much of this stuff is common between drivers, sorry09:36
jhutchinsHelo kartal09:36
VSpikeI spent ages trying to make nvidia-glx behave like an old skool xorg.conf and just read every damn thing from the config file and stop all this automagic stuff09:37
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jhutchinsVSpike: Too much auto-configuration is not good, like Windows98.09:39
jhutchinsUnfortunately, some of the developers seem to be headed that way.09:39
fdovingwhen auto-configuration works it's nice.09:39
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jhutchinsfdoving: Unless you want it to be different.09:40
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fdovingsure. but with most autoconfigs you can also do it manually.09:41
jhutchinsLinux is supposed to be about doing what you want to do, not what some soulless marketing commitee in Redmonds thinks you should want to do.09:41
fdoving.. override the auto-things.09:41
RythanHas anyone gotten eclipse 3.3M6 to work on Fiesty?09:41
jhutchinsfdoving: I don't mind the 'suggest and confirm' style auto-configs, and I appreciate hardware being detected automatically.09:42
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jhutchinsNot knowing how the computer's going to configure itself each time you boot though...09:42
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fdovingjhutchins: sure, but for distributions compromises has to me made. you're not denied to re-do the install cds and do it your way, the code is there and it's free. but if you don't agree with the decisions made, you will need to either pick one of the other alternatives or do it yourself.09:43
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jhutchinsHopefully the people making the decisions are open to feedback about when autoconfiguration is a good thing and when it isn't.09:44
fdovinganyone tried the i810 driver with mergedfb?09:44
jhutchinsfdoving: Hah.  I think I had one of those, but I couldn't get my wireless working so I installed something else over it.09:44
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jhutchinsfdoving: I may try again.09:45
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fdovingjhutchins: let's hope so. and hope they keep the some hardcore backdoors open for those of us who want to do it the oldfashioned way.09:45
dettoaltrimenti_what are linux headers used for?09:45
fdovingjhutchins: an i810 intel graphics thing?09:45
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jhutchinsfdoving: Yeah, I think this Toshiba has one.09:45
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: to compile stuff that needs to know how to talk to the kernel directly.09:46
jhutchinsfdoving: At least that's what this other distro tried (and failed) to configure for it.09:46
fdovingjhutchins: ok. i'll get an new dell tomorrow. with an intel graphics, i really need it to do mergedfb, so i hope it works.09:46
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kristjan_is it possible to install from harddisk? (especially I would like to install betas and alfas from hd instead of burning cd)09:46
fdovingkristjan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation might help you.09:47
VSpikeThe way the nvidia driver works is a pretty good idea on the whole.  It's just it's not obvious what it does, or how to tweak it or override it when it goes wrong.  Also, it doesn't seem to interract nicely with tools that rely on xranr data like the kde xserver config tool, or xrandr itself.  Only the nvidia-settings GUI seems to work 100%09:48
fdovingVSpike: that's the closed one, right?09:48
dhqis there any sound cutting tool09:49
fdovingdhq: audacity09:49
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dhqfdoving: anything better than that09:49
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kristjan_fdoving: it's either usb sticks, or floppies, no word about having iso on harddrive09:50
dettoaltrimenti_so I don't need linux headers to run my computer- I can delete them, yes?09:50
fdovingdhq: probably, check out ubuntustudio-audio09:50
VSpikefdoving: yeah09:50
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fdovingkristjan_: ok, then i don't know.09:51
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: yes. you can.09:51
cox377is SSH file transfer natoriously slower than normal samba file sharing?09:52
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fdovingcox377: yes.09:52
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PhinnFortcox377: but safer09:52
PhinnFortcox377: if you use authentication, that is09:52
cox377PhinnFort: is there anyway of speeding it up09:53
PhinnFortcox377: using NFS or AFS;)09:53
PhinnFortor similar09:53
cox377PhinnFort: up yup well it aks me for a user name and password09:53
thefirstdudeso I install the nvidia-glx package on edgy, restart and no graphical interface pops up!?!!?!?09:53
cox377PhinnFort: is NFS and AFS ssh?09:53
PhinnFortcox377: well, to protect your username and password, use ssh09:53
PhinnFortcox377: i think they might support it for authentication09:53
PhinnFortthey should09:53
thefirstdudeinit 5 doesn't even do a damn thing09:53
thefirstdudeI've reinstalled it like 5 times09:53
PhinnFortcox377: ssh might protect against injection too09:53
cox377PhinnFort: i've just read this09:54
cox377PhinnFort:09:54
cox377You can use the Blowfish ciper, which is faster than the default (3des).09:54
cox377Add the following line to your ~.ssh/config file:09:54
cox377Cipher blowfish09:54
PhinnFortwell, have you done that?09:54
cox377i was wondering if it meant anything09:55
cox377well if it was a loada *******09:55
PhinnFortcox377: it's the algorithm it uses to encrypt stuff09:55
thefirstdudeanyhelp?09:55
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PhinnFortit's probably true, afaik 3des isn't very fast09:55
cox377PhinnFort: is it for server side or client side?09:55
PhinnFortthefirstdude: startx?09:55
PhinnFortcox377: server side i believe09:55
PhinnFortbut I'm not too familiar with OpenSSH09:56
PhinnFortput it in both09:56
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thefirstdudeok, I'll try that09:56
cox377yup shall do09:56
cox3771 thing, whilst using ssh over konq how do i edit root files on the host machine as there is not the right click edit as root option09:57
fdovingcox377: client decides cipher.09:57
PhinnFortfdoving: thanks09:57
PhinnFortcox377: open with -> other -> kdesu kate09:57
cox377PhinnFort: cheers09:58
fdovingcox377: you can also experiment with CompressLevels 1 and up. usually compressing makes things slower unless you're on a slow network.09:58
cox377fdoving: its over lan09:58
cox377lan09:58
PhinnFortcox377: is the cpu usage high?09:58
dettoaltrimenti_some things in my trash bin won't delete- is there any way to force delete everything in there?09:58
fdovingthen compression is not needed.09:58
PhinnFortcox377: are you using the fish:/ protocol?09:58
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cox377fdoving: once i've entered that cipher, do i have to restart the ssh client?09:59
fdovingin case you copy already compressed data, it's just bloat to compress more.09:59
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fdovingcox377: yes, reconnect.09:59
cox377PhinnFort: Umm not sure what you mean mate09:59
fdovingcox377: fish:/ in konqueror.09:59
PhinnFortcox377: how do you access the files?09:59
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cox377sftp09:59
PhinnFortah, ok09:59
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cox377PhinnFort: am i supposed to use fish?09:59
PhinnFortcox377: no10:00
PhinnFortcox377: i believe that is slower, since it's using some ugly/clever hacks to get the job done;)10:00
fdovingsftp is preferred.10:00
PhinnFortbut fish:/ is very convienient10:00
PhinnFortwhen sftp isn't available10:00
cox377PhinnFort: ok, shall ty the script and let you guys know in a bit10:00
fdovingsure is :)10:00
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atidemciao!10:02
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szymonlol10:03
szymonhehue10:03
PhinnForti have just gotten it confirmed that cia means bye10:03
szymonje tu jaki polok10:03
szymoncos mi sie zdaje ze ni ;p10:03
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PhinnFortjeg tygger iskrembilen10:04
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PhinnFort!pl10:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:04
nightwatchhi there, how can I set up apt-build for core 2 duo processors?10:04
szymonnom same jakies zagraniczne;p10:05
szymonlol o czym wogule gaacie;p10:05
nightwatchthere's no core 2 duo in the list...10:05
PhinnFort!pl | szymon10:05
ubotuszymon: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:05
szymontak, tak ty o kozie ja o wozie10:06
szymonj a chce kogos z polski! ;p10:06
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szymonPOLAND AND UKRAINE EURO 2012 ;d;d;d10:07
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PhinnFort!offtopic | szymon10:07
ubotuszymon: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:07
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szymonPOLAND AND UKRAINE EURO 2012 ;d;d;d10:10
szymonPOLAND AND UKRAINE EURO 2012 ;d;d;d10:10
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szymonPOLAND AND UKRAINE EURO 2012 ;d;d;d10:11
jhutchins!ops | szymon10:11
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jhutchinsLjL: You guys are good.10:11
jhutchinsLjL: Thanks.10:11
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PhinnFortthanks10:11
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PhinnFortjhutchins: I think the ops prefer you join #ubuntu-ops or something, since the !ops triggers some kind of alarm on most of the op's clients10:12
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LjLno, it's quite ok in these cases10:12
LjLas long as you don't abuse it. but this wasn't abusing it10:12
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PhinnFortoki10:12
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beta__!printer10:15
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:15
lauhi, is this chan english? or german?10:15
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BluesKajenglish10:15
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:15
laui want to install adobe flash player 9 on kubuntu10:15
lauhow can i do this?10:16
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PhinnFort!flash | lau10:16
ubotulau: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:16
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash10:16
BluesKajbest is to download the Flashplayer from adobe's site and install manually10:16
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hellbladehello peeps10:19
hellbladei have a little problem. do you know where k9copy stores its user settings?10:20
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Daisuke_IPFWhellblade: ~/.k9copy?10:21
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corbaxsalut10:22
txwikingerhellblade: I would think either ~/.k9copy or ~/.kde/share/config10:22
PhinnFort.kde/share/config/k9copy.rc10:22
PhinnFortkanskje?10:22
PhinnFort*maybe10:22
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hellbladenope. i am looking for a file containing the opengl preview setting and none of these is that10:22
hellbladecan i somehow get the list of files opened when i run k9copy from konsole?10:23
txwikingerhellblade: ~/.kde/share/config/K9Copy10:23
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hellbladeomg thanks! never thought of tabbing with big K:P10:24
kikesaludos a tod@s10:24
txwikingerhellblade: yes lsof | grep k9copy10:24
txwikingerbut that only shows that currently opened files10:24
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TheCreationistI am trying to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, but all the guides I've found are either Gnome-specific, or just plain don't work (the "official" Ubuntu guide).  Anyone know how to do this?10:25
txwikingerwhy not using the upgrade-manager ?10:25
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vit__hello10:26
vit__hellooooooooooooooooooo10:26
TheCreationisttxwikinger: All the guides say to use "update-manager" but that is a gnome app.10:26
txwikingerhi vit__10:26
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txwikingerit works on Kubuntu too TheCreationist10:26
beta__is feisty offical now?10:26
TheCreationisttxwikinger: Really?  Because trying to run update-manager says command not found.10:27
txwikingerbeta__ Tomorrow10:27
PhinnFortTheCreationist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades10:27
vit__you spanish10:27
beta__wow really?10:27
PhinnFort!es | vit__10:27
ubotuvit__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:27
beta__!feisty10:27
TheCreationistPhinnFort: I followed that guide... Adept doesn't show ANY available updates.10:27
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)10:27
txwikingerTheCreationist: Install the package10:27
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Kamuianyone recall the name of the screensaver package that shows the different crashes in some popular OS's?10:27
infernohow can I change my screen resolution?10:27
hellbladeTheCreationist: I had some problems using adept so after disabling unofficial repos and changing edgy to feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list, I run "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade". hope that works if you cant find an easier way10:27
PhinnFortKamui: probably in xscreensavers10:27
stamenhi10:28
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PhinnFortinferno: system settings -> screen10:28
stamenI have upgraded to feisty and now I have a question10:28
vit__no hay aqui alguien que hable espaol10:28
TheCreationisthellblade: The official guide says nothign about changing sources at all.10:28
infernothat is crapped up, doesn't even change it10:28
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stamenwhy when I boot with the new kernel it can;t find fstab10:28
PhinnFortTheCreationist: sorry, it wasn't that I was looking for, there used to be a link to a tool that did it automagically in the topic10:28
txwikingeryou can run sudo apt-get install update-manager10:28
KamuiPhinnFort:  I got xscreensavers and it doesn't sappear to be there10:28
stamenand can't mount the filesystem10:28
txwikingeror search the package in adept10:28
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stamenwhat does it read10:29
Kamuiunless kde doesn't use xscreensavers for its screen lock10:29
txwikingerand the run it with "gksu update-manager -c -d"10:29
PhinnFortKamui: you need an extra package for xscreensavers in KDE10:29
stamenas I see it not read fstab10:29
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txwikingeror kdesu is fine too10:29
BloodyTuxhey10:29
TheCreationisttxwikinger: Alright... that seems to be fine... although I hate having to install a gnome app ;)10:29
BloodyTuxhow's everyone today?10:29
KamuiPhinnFort: any idea what I need to get?  I've grabbed everything screensaver related from the apt tree10:29
PhinnFort!info kscreensaver-xsavers | Kamui10:30
ubotukamui: kscreensaver-xsavers: KDE hooks for standard xscreensavers. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 107 kB, installed size 708 kB10:30
PhinnFort!info kscreensaver-xsavers-extra | Kamui10:30
ubotukamui: kscreensaver-xsavers-extra: KDE hooks for standard xscreensavers. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 1252 kB10:30
BloodyTuxanyone need help10:30
PhinnFort:D10:30
txwikingerTheCreationist: Don't worry.. most apps are usable on multiple desktops10:30
TheCreationistNow, I assume that upgrading to Feisty isn't going to remove any apps or screw up any settings, right?10:30
BloodyTuxnope10:30
BloodyTuxi did it last night10:30
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TheCreationistWill it INSTALL a ton of apps that I find useless?10:30
BloodyTuxno10:30
TheCreationistOr just upgrade all the stuff that I already have installed?10:31
ubuntu__hi10:31
PhinnFortTheCreationist: some10:31
BloodyTuxdepends on what you need actually, and what you havenow10:31
hellblademainly upgrade10:31
ubuntu__i'm a new user...10:31
BloodyTuxyea i had 909 to upgrade10:31
ubuntu__and i'm italian10:31
txwikingerTheCreationist: there are some new packages that are now default in feisty that weren't before10:31
BloodyTux107 install10:31
txwikingerbut it schouldn't be too bad10:31
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BloodyTuxso is feisty unbeta yet?10:31
Kamuinice, thanks PhinnFort10:31
TheCreationistalright... I'm taking the plunge.  Wish me luck ;)10:32
PhinnFortKamui: yw;)10:32
txwikingerBloodyTux: No.. Tomorrow10:32
BloodyTuxdang10:32
TheCreationistlol10:32
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sebbarhi, do I need any special packages to make pdftex work?10:32
hellbladegj:)10:32
TheCreationist"It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug."   kubuntu-desktop10:32
TheCreationistGreat10:32
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PhinnFortheh10:32
PhinnFortTheCreationist: paste everything to rafb.net/paste10:32
PhinnFort?10:32
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TheCreationistPhinnFort: That was everything... that's all it said.  Then exited and returned my system to the previous state lol10:33
txwikingerTheCreationist: You should have the kubuntu-desktop package on a Kubuntu installation10:33
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the_hammerhey all kubuntu 7.04 feighsty10:33
txwikingerit is a meta-package10:33
coreymon77when is feisty being stable released?10:33
TheCreationistcoreymon77: Tomorrow.10:33
txwikingercoreymon77: tomorrow10:33
the_hammeri cant seem to touch anything in themes10:33
coreymon77oh10:33
the_hammerwhy and is there some sort of a replacement i can get?10:33
coreymon77sweet10:33
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coreymon77apparently its a huge upgrade over edgy10:34
BloodyTuxhow do i activate compiz?10:34
BloodyTux???10:34
coreymon77is that true10:34
coreymon77?10:34
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BloodyTuxi want compiz!!!10:34
txwikingerTheCreationist: install the package before you do the upgrade10:34
txwikingerBloodyTux: You must install it, AFAIK it is not installed by default10:34
TheCreationisttxwikinger: That will install all those crap applications that I spent so long removing... no thanks.10:34
BloodyTuxi installed it but where is config10:34
stamenwho can help about my question up there10:35
txwikingerTheCreationist: you need it if you want to use a stable automatic upgrade10:35
PhinnFort!compiz | BloodyTux10:35
ubotuBloodyTux: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:35
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BloodyTuxthanks10:35
stamenwhich file read the new kernel for mounted devices10:35
TheCreationistSeems stupid for Kubuntu to force people to install applications they obviously don't want... just to upgrade?  weird.10:35
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BloodyTuxjust uninstall them again after upgrade10:35
txwikingerTheCreationist: otherwise you have to do it manually (change sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)10:36
TheCreationistBloodyTux: Well, yeah, I know that's what to do... but it takes so long and seems so unnecessary.10:36
BloodyTuxwill compiz work with ati 3d rage pro10:36
txwikingerTheCreationist: but this can have problems with dependencies10:36
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PhinnFortBloodyTux: i think so10:36
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PhinnFortBloodyTux: but I don't know10:36
TheCreationistBloodyTux: It will WORK, yes... but you won't get all the pretty eye candy.10:36
BloodyTux:(10:37
txwikingerTheCreationist: it is otherwise difficult to ensure proper dependencies10:37
fdovingTheCreationist: that will change after feisty, the metapackage has changed, now it only recommends most of the packages, which in an upgrade from feisty will work as we want it to.10:37
BloodyTuxbrb, going to do compiz crap for a bit10:37
dettoalt1imentiis there any way to 'minimize' irssi in the terminal, then call it back?10:37
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TheCreationistgrr... install kubuntu-desktop10:37
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: install and use the 'screen' package, and command.10:37
dettoalt1imentithanks10:38
HaSHhello all does anyone in here play quake 4 on linux?. ive installed it but i cant get it to work.10:38
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HaSHits saying : terminate called after throwing an instance of 'idException'10:38
HaSHand quits.10:38
TheCreationistHaSH: I haven't been able to get ANY Windows games to work in Linux... I've tried both Wine and Cedega... so I can't help, personally.10:39
HaSHand i cant find any info on google10:39
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HaSHthere is a linux port of quake410:39
TheCreationistHaSH: Even tried using VMware and VirtualBox (neither of which support 3D acceleration)10:39
TheCreationistHaSH: Ah, that's true.10:39
PhinnFortHaSH: using the windows or Linux version?10:39
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HaSHPhinnFort, linux10:40
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PhinnFortTheCreationist: I believe there's a linux version of Quake 410:40
TheCreationistHaSH: If you installed it with the linux .sh installer, it should work.10:40
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HaSHquake4-linux-beta-1.4.1.x86.run10:40
TheCreationistHaSH: Maybe try the id forums?10:40
HaSHi have it10:40
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HaSHive searched for my error. there is very few hits on google10:40
PhinnForti found no hits...10:41
PhinnFortthis is weird10:41
PhinnFortyou sure the package was installed succesfully?10:41
TheCreationistlol "A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"10:41
TheCreationistthis is pathetic10:41
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HaSHPhinnFort, i followed http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/10:41
Gh0st75hi, does anyone know the install command for ndiswrapper 1.38? all the examples i've seen are for 1.810:41
TheCreationistDoesn't anyone TRY these upgrade tools before releasing them? :P10:41
PhinnFortTheCreationist: use aptitude10:41
TheCreationistNow I have a ton of crappy KDE apps installed and still no Feisty...10:42
PhinnFortTheCreationist: they've been thorougly tested10:42
HaSHi installed the linux installer. then copied the files from the dvd of quake410:42
PhinnFortTheCreationist: worked perfectly here10:42
PhinnFortHaSH: that guide seemed a tad bit old...10:42
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TheCreationistPhinnFort: Well, following the guide on Ubuntu.com doesn't work (it says to simply enable a repository and you're good to go), but even doing that shows zero upgrades available.10:42
PhinnFortTheCreationist: did you "sudo aptitude update" first?10:43
HaSHPhinnFort, it could be but has contained the most usefull info yet.10:43
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TheCreationistPhinnFort: I ran "kdesu update-manager -c -d"10:43
TheCreationistPhinnFort: It found the upgrade to 7.04, but fails when trying to install it.10:43
HaSHok i tried one thing brb. when it crashes i need to logout and back in. it messes up my resolution.10:43
PhinnFortah, ok10:44
HaSHnope didnt work10:44
HaSHnow everything is huge and hard to read10:44
HaSH:/ i installed doom3 the same way and it worked fine10:44
TheCreationistHaSH: Move your head further away from the monitor ;)10:44
HaSHlol i can only see like 1-5th of my screen10:45
HaSHits all zoomed in10:45
Daisuke_IPFWHaSH: xrandr is your friend10:45
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PhinnFortHaSH: krandrtray10:45
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coreymon77hi guys10:45
PhinnFortrun it10:45
coreymon77where is java installed to10:45
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TheCreationistOkay, I'll just wait until tomorrow to try updating.  Thanks for your help guys.10:45
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HaSHah cool10:46
HaSHnow i dont have to log out :-)10:46
Daisuke_IPFWi had that problem for a while10:46
HaSHhere is the full output i get when running quake410:47
HaSHhttp://pastebin.ulteo.us/51410:47
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coreymon77where is sun jre installed to10:47
PhinnFortHaSH: have you tried installing the latest patch?10:47
dettoaltrimenti_fdoving- ok, so the 'screen' documentation is extremely long. I got as far as 'screen irssi'- is there a command to 'minimize' after that? Or do I have to define a binding in a setup file first?10:47
PhinnFortHaSH: "ERROR: Couldn't load scripts/main.script"10:48
BloodyTuxso the noiesmo's site is about beryl not compiz...10:48
HaSHPhinnFort, i do belive i did. i dled this from idsofts bit torrent trackertoday10:48
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: ctrl+a-d10:48
PhinnFortHaSH: I think a file maybe isn't available10:48
HaSHPhinnFort, yea i reinstalled 3 times.10:48
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: hold ctrl, then hit a, and then d. not a and d at the same time, first a, then d :)10:48
HaSHeach time the same thing10:48
PhinnFortHaSH: is the CD-rom good?10:48
BloodyTuxso how do i configure compiz, not beryl?10:48
Daisuke_IPFWBloodyTux: #ubuntu-effects :)10:48
HaSHPhinnFort, i copied all the files it says to. ill double check the md5 sums though10:49
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angasule!grub10:49
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:49
dettoaltrimenti_ah cool- fdoving, ctrl a, d seems to close the current window, ctrl a, a is to switch, and ctrl a, c is to make a new terminal10:50
dettoaltrimenti_is that right?10:50
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BloodyTuxhow do i set ctrl+alt+del to open a task manager?10:51
BloodyTuxmy parents are to new to linux to know how to work through the K menu unless its games...10:51
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: correct, ctrl a, spacebar and ctrl a, backspace to jump forward and back in the windows is also nice.10:51
apokryphosBloodyTux: tell them to ctrl+alt+escape instead10:51
BloodyTuxk10:51
Daisuke_IPFWbut that wasn't the question10:52
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BloodyTuxwill that close everything like ctrl+alt+backspace or open task manager10:52
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apokryphosBloodyTux: open the task manager10:52
Daisuke_IPFWi think you can bind ctrl-alt-del to launch ksysguard10:52
apokryphosBloodyTux: sorry, I meant ctrl+escape10:52
HaSHanyone know of a program to check the md5 sums of a list of sums vs the files?10:52
HaSHits a pain having to do each file10:52
apokryphosctrl+alt+escape brings up the killer-cursour10:52
BloodyTuxit won't open for me10:53
BloodyTuxkiller-cursour?10:53
apokryphosyes10:53
fdovingHaSH: 'md5sum -c file' in the directory with the files.10:53
fdovingHaSH: where file is the name of the file with the sums.10:53
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apokryphosBloodyTux: just ctrl+escape.. are you sure?10:53
HaSHfdoving, thanks d00d :-)10:53
BloodyTuxit worked, nvm just took some time10:53
CugelSo who's going to get Feisty in a few hours?10:54
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BloodyTuxi already did10:54
CugelI'm scared to do it.10:54
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stoftBloodyTux: any probs?10:55
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Gh0st75can you upgrade feisty beta to the current version or would a new install be necessary?10:55
Gh0st75current meaning the official release10:55
BloodyTuxnope, works like a dream10:55
Gh0st75almost current10:55
BloodyTuxugghhhh the ubuntu effects room sucks10:56
fdovingGh0st75: just installing the updates will be fine :)10:56
BloodyTuxnobody answers me10:56
Gh0st75great, hoping it may solve my wireless issues10:56
BloodyTux#kubuntu-offtopic10:56
BloodyTux:)10:57
BloodyTuxi'm bored10:57
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dettoalt1imentiso is irssi a good terminal based irc program, or is there a better one? Can I setup irssi to color lines differently when they have my username in them?10:57
CugelJust a last qsemi-offtopic uestion: what's the Kubuntu way of upgrading to Feisty?10:58
Cugeldetto: I like Konversation, but many people love irssi.10:58
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CugelYou can do everything and anything with irssi, but Konversation is a bit more friendly. And it resembles Mirc which I have used for years.10:59
coreymon77guys, question10:59
stoftBloodyTux: sounds good, thnx10:59
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dettoalt1imentiCugel- I like konversation too, I'm just seeing what I can comfortably do from the terminal just out of curiosity- I started using moc for playing music because amarok is pretty resource intensive, and it's pretty amazing11:00
jhutchinsCugel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades11:00
fdovingdettoalt1imenti: yes, irssi is -the- terminal based irc program.11:01
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: /set hilight_nick_matches on11:01
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: then /save11:01
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dettoalt1imentidettoaltrimenti testing11:02
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: i also recommend going to scripts.irssi.org and get the scriptassist.pl script. it's amazing. and nickcolor.pl is very nice.11:02
dettoalt1imentiok11:03
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dettoalt1imentidettoalt1imenti is my name11:03
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fdovingdettoalt1imenti: not sure it triggers when you say it yourself.11:03
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Daisuke_IPFWirssi allows for scripts?11:04
dettoalt1imentihmm it's not working when you say it either...11:04
Daisuke_IPFWvery nice11:04
fdovingDaisuke_IPFW: very much so, yes.11:04
Daisuke_IPFW(just learning it)11:04
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Daisuke_IPFWdettoalt1imenti: working now?11:04
fdovingdettoalt1imenti: ok. then try /help hilight11:04
Daisuke_IPFWfdoving: i'm liking it, just to use via ssh11:05
Gh0st75anyone able to answer a question about ndiswrapper pls?11:05
Daisuke_IPFWit stinks, buy a new wireless card.  next?11:05
Daisuke_IPFW:)11:05
Gh0st75lol, i'd toss kubuntu before tossing my macbook11:05
Daisuke_IPFWGh0st75: you never got my link yesterday about installing ndiswrapper in ubuntu on - you guessed it - a macbook?11:06
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Gh0st75i got your link and i downloaded ndiswrapper and an xp/2k driver for a similar chipset11:06
Daisuke_IPFWthere's the problem11:07
Daisuke_IPFWsimilar doesn't cut it, it's not the same11:07
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Gh0st75the link shows syntax for installing ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 however what i ended up downloading was ndiswrapper-1.38 which extracts as a folder full of files11:07
Daisuke_IPFWGh0st75: did you compile it?11:08
nuxilhi all.. how can i make eth1 to become eth0 ? i got 2 onbord nics.. but eth0 onboard is not working, so i want to make eth1 become eth0 or alias it somehow.. anyone got an idea how i can do it?11:08
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Daisuke_IPFWnuxil: quick answer is disable the one listed as eth0 in the bios11:08
Gh0st75i didn't know which file to use in the install command11:08
Daisuke_IPFWor remove the actual nic11:08
Daisuke_IPFWGh0st75: ./configure && make && sudo make install11:08
Daisuke_IPFWthat command is your best friend11:08
Gh0st75the example form the link you sent listed this: sudo apt-get install ndisrapper-utils-1.811:08
dettoalt1imentiwait, so what does scriptassist do for irssi?11:09
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Gh0st75writing that down, will give that command a try11:09
nuxilDaisuke_IPFW, its kinda hardd to remove it.. since its onboard the mobo.. i been looking in the bios,. i cant find anything there on disabling only 1 of the nics.11:09
Daisuke_IPFWhttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/18/how-to-configure-wireless-on-a-macbook-using-ndiswrapper/11:10
Grexeowhen will kubuntu feisty fawn be released?11:10
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Daisuke_IPFWnuxil: not sure then11:10
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Daisuke_IPFWGrexeo: theoretically, tomorrow.11:10
turellahy to all11:10
nuxilhmm11:10
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dettoalt1imentidetto11:10
Daisuke_IPFWoi, i should be studying, i have an exam in 45 minutes :\11:10
coreymon77Gh0st75: are you sure that you have to use ndis11:10
coreymon77Gh0st75: what card is it?11:10
Gh0st75thanks for the link again, had it bookmaked from yesterday tho11:11
GrexeoDaisuke_IPFW: ah, thanks11:11
brett_notably there wasn't a daily build today, but somehow I doubt tomorrow11:11
turellaare there any italian11:11
Gh0st75it's an atheros chipset for a macbook c2d11:11
coreymon77Gh0st75: dunce!!11:11
brett_!it | turella11:11
ubotuturella: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:11
coreymon77Gh0st75: atheros cards are the easiest thigns in the world11:11
Daisuke_IPFWbrett_: as the release date as been set as april 19 for months, and hasn't been changed, i'm betting on probably tomorrow.11:11
coreymon77Gh0st75: you dont need ndis11:11
coreymon77Gh0st75: it works completely natively11:11
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Gh0st75i know the core duos work out of the box, but the core 2 duos don't appear to11:11
brett_Daisuke_IPFW: there was a missed RC because of some fairly critical bugs, I'll check the mailing lists but it's recent11:12
coreymon77Gh0st75: i use an atheros11:12
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coreymon77Gh0st75: what is the interface you are using called?11:12
coreymon77interface what11:12
turellaok i can speak english11:12
coreymon77oh11:12
coreymon77nevermind11:12
coreymon77it should be ath011:12
coreymon77Gh0st75: its interface ath0 right?11:12
Gh0st75where would i check that?11:12
coreymon77Gh0st75: nevermind, atheros chipset right?11:13
Gh0st75yes11:13
coreymon77Gh0st75: then its ath011:13
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Daisuke_IPFWand there's also the cute little graphic on the ubuntu website saying "Countdown to Ubuntu 7.04  Release is Tomorrow"11:13
coreymon77Gh0st75: okay, type this into a konsole window11:13
Gh0st75according to the ubuntu forums and several other sites it's not just me having trouble getting wireless to work11:13
brett_some of which were problems in networkmanager ;)11:13
Gh0st75some people are using ndis and some are using madwifi11:13
coreymon77Gh0st75: type this command11:13
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coreymon77Gh0st75: you dont need either11:14
Gh0st75ok11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: atheros works natively11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: tpy ethis11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: wait, actually11:14
Gh0st75will have to write this down, in osx now, will try any ideas on reboot11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: first, type iwconfig11:14
nuxilcant i assing a mac to a ethX number ?11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: oh11:14
coreymon77Gh0st75: umm11:14
coreymon77okay then11:14
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Gh0st75iwconfig will show the device ID?11:15
coreymon77Gh0st75: it should11:15
Gh0st75k11:15
coreymon77Gh0st75: but it may not11:15
coreymon77Gh0st75: if its not athX (X being a number) ignore it11:15
Daisuke_IPFWtime to study11:16
Daisuke_IPFWlater people, and good luck with the wifi11:16
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cox377PhinnFort: you still about?11:18
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reagleBRKLNHello, I am using Kubuntu Feisty and had read that, while not one that default, enabling desktop effects would be a simple as installing some packages. I have installed desktop-effects, but now what? (Or is this only for Gnome?)11:21
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CugelThanks for mentioning moc -- that's just the command line player I was looking for. (I use Amarok all the time).;11:22
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srednahi11:33
dettoaltrimenti-regexp -pattern "has quit" * ACTIONS11:33
srednais there some way to get helvetica on kubuntu?11:33
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Sannesredna: you can install any true tpye font either through kubuntu's font installer, or simply put them in ~/.fonts.11:34
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=== sredna needs a NOT ttf font since KDE cant print ttf fonts with bearable results
reagleBRKLNok compiz was weird, lost all window controls... beryl works better, but do I need to install xserver-xgl, or is xserver-xorg good enough?11:35
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coreymon77sredna: yes it can11:35
srednacoreymon77: not that i have seen11:35
coreymon77works for me11:36
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cox377is there any maintainance way of making space?11:36
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cox377clean up etc?11:36
srednamaybe i am more critical, coreymon7711:36
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coreymon77sredna: probably11:36
srednai dislike that the hints are not used correctly. i get HUGE space in some words11:37
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dettoaltrimenticox377- you can download 'remove orphaned packages' and remove orphaned packages11:37
srednalike 'bd en' - that should be ONE word, not two11:37
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cox377dettoaltrimenti: umm what would the command be for that?11:37
dettoaltrimentithe command for what?11:38
srednaand in some cases, there is not enough space between letters, like the middle 'l's in 'lille'11:38
cox377like apt-get install remove orphaned packages?11:38
dettoaltrimentisudo apt-get install gtkorphan11:38
srednain any case, is there a package containing a type1 version of helvetica?11:38
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srednaor PS for that matter?11:38
cox377dettoaltrimenti: kool11:39
coreymon77what are orphaned packages?11:39
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dettoaltrimentipackages that no program uses11:40
dettoaltrimentior, packages that no program is dependant on11:40
srednahm, it even seems to be installed11:40
dettoaltrimentimainly libraries that don't get deleted after you remove a program11:40
srednawhy doesn't kde find it?=????11:40
dettoaltrimentidoes anyone here use irssi? I'm trying to block the 'has quit' and 'has joined' messages11:41
coreymon77dettoaltrimenti: is it safe to delete them?11:41
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bobbydhi11:43
bobbydwhat's the easiest way to connect to a windows VPN using kubuntu?11:43
BloodyTuxyo11:43
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BloodyTuxask Tm_t11:44
BloodyTux!VPN11:44
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD11:44
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yung__when I logout from my user session, I got the KDM login screen in a weird position..11:46
yung__anybody has same weirdness?11:46
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yung__I'm using kubuntu 7.04 by the way..11:47
Sanneyung__: I got this at first, when I had higher resolutions I don't use listed first in my xorg.conf. When I took them out and listed the resolution first that I actually use, it was fine.11:47
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BadRabbit320Broadcom wifi driving me nuts; is there a distro that will run my builtin without me jumping thru hoops?11:49
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thoreauputicBadRabbit320: did you get the firmware for the bcm43xx driver? Or are you  using ndiswrapper?11:51
ArwenBadRabbit320, Broadcom wifi? no, because of legal issues11:51
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thoreauputicArwen: it;s quite possibl with the firmware11:52
Gh0st75hi again, didn't seem to work coreymon7711:52
thoreauputic!bcm43xx | BadRabbit32011:52
ubotuBadRabbit320: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx11:52
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Gh0st75mind if i pm you with the results of that little test?11:52
thoreauputicArwen: cafuego has supplied debs for the Broadcom firmware11:53
Arwenhe said "out of box"11:53
thoreauputicArwen: actually he said "without jumping thru hoops" I think?11:53
jtholmesanyone know how i save the current network and channel assignment in kopete so when i start it back up everything come backup at it is now11:53
Arwenthoreauputic, ah11:53
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Arwenthoreauputic, well, trying to get a NIC working is in of itself "jumping through hoops" - especially since you usually need a net connection to do it11:54
josh__hello hello! quick question. VOIP Service + Pay  as you go cell phones... is this possible?11:54
thoreauputicArwen: i suppose downloading a deb and running dpkg -i *is* a hoop :)11:54
thoreauputicArwen: as hoops go it's not a hard one to jump through11:54
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yung__sanne: Thanks, I will try that..11:55
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Sanneyung__: you're welcome, good luck (if you need further help, just shout) :)11:56
stoftjosh__: look into ekiga and/or skype, that might be what you're looking for. not sure about pay as you go (or what it is even)11:56
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josh__we are setting up asterisk atm... (trixbox)11:56
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yung__sanne: Is that a kdm problem?11:57
coreymon77Gh0st75: not working?11:57
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coreymon77Gh0st75: how not?11:57
josh__we can have calling cards, etc from our provider... so looking into providing Open Source solutions11:57
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Gh0st75nope, when i typed iwconfig it showed 2 lines of info11:57
dettoalt1imenticd /home/dettoaltrimenti/11:57
dettoalt1imentils11:57
Sanneyung__: I don't know, seems so. I admid I didn't investigate it anymore after I got it working.11:57
Gh0st75lo no wireless extensions, then eth0 no wireless extensions11:58
Daboone72Greetings I'm fired up right now. Does anyone know a good KDE development book that's recent enough to be useful...11:58
coreymon77continue in the pm11:58
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Daboone72Is anyone working on a GUI for loading and unloading device driver modules?11:59
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Daboone72Is anyone working on something that lists PCI devices and finds the matching kernel module for the device?12:00
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ArwenDaboone72, lsmod and lspci ?12:00
puppetmasterHi everyone12:00
Daboone72I'm talking GUI tools12:00
yung__sanne: still have the same problem..12:00
puppetmasterI want to know is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to Kubuntu?12:00
ArwenDaboone72, learn to use a god damned terminal...12:01
stoftjosh__: check out the March issue of Linux Journal if you can, they had lots of articles on Asterisk12:01
Cugelpuppet: yes.12:01
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CugelIt's not an upgrade.12:01
puppetmasterFrom the internet12:01
Daboone72Is there a switch to lspci that'll tell me what devices don't have drivers?12:01
BloodyTuxanyone need help?12:01
yung__Is anybody has KDM login position issue?12:01
puppetmasteryes12:01
dettoalt1imentiBloodyTux- how do I exit out of vim?12:01
yung__:x12:01
BloodyTuxvim??? i don't use that12:01
stoftdettoalt1imenti:  :q12:02
BloodyTux:|12:02
Sanneyung__: one sympton of mine was that you could pan the kdm desktop when you get to the edge of the screen with the mouse. Do you have that also?12:02
puppetmasterHow to switch or upgrade from ubuntu to Kubuntu12:02
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BloodyTuxoooooo12:02
puppetmaster???12:02
BloodyTuxi know how, download kubuntu-dekstop package12:02
BloodyTux:) i win!12:02
puppetmasterthen12:03
BloodyTuxGO MEEEEE!!!12:03
nargHas anyone encountered a resolution change causing pager to crash kicker? (bug #139346)12:03
puppetmasterthat's not what I asked for12:03
Daboone72Are there any complete Linux newbies here?12:03
BloodyTuxthats how you upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu12:03
dettoalt1imentiand when using screen, how can I close one screen without closing all of them?12:03
BloodyTuxdaboone72: no your the only noob in the world ;)12:04
josh__stoft: thanks for the tip!!12:04
stoftdettoalt1imenti: "exit12:04
yung__sanne: nothing happen for me..12:04
stoft"12:04
BloodyTuxhow do i emote?12:04
narg /me12:04
Daboone72BloodyTux hehe I've been using linux since Kernel 1.2 actually12:04
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yung__sanne: I think my problem is little bit different from yours..12:04
BloodyTux...12:04
coreymon77puppetmaster:what do you want to do12:04
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dettoalt1imentican I change the font size in the terminal?12:04
livingdaylightwoah...!12:05
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BloodyTuxmmmmmmmm12:05
coreymon77puppetmaster: do you want to upgrade ubuntu or install kubuntu12:05
Daboone72Who would I talk to/too actually get a FAQ on the desktop for the next Kubuntu release?12:05
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Arwendettoalt1imenti, the terminal as in "konsole" or the consoles in tty1-7?12:05
dettoalt1imentiagh and what happens when I type " in the terminal, and how do I get out of it?12:05
rubsooi, mates12:06
dettoalt1imentitty12:06
Arwendetto, if you type ", hit ctrl+c...12:06
dettoalt1imentithanks arwen12:06
Arwenand in tty.... no idea... you get 24x80 fixed squares12:06
rubso lol guys, got Power Management Fixed in Kubuntu?12:06
Arwendettoalt1imenti, oh, if you want more room in the console, you can enable framebuffer in grub.conf12:06
coreymon77puppetmaster: to install kubuntu, type this into a konsole window12:06
Arwener... menu.lst*12:07
coreymon77puppetmaster: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:07
puppetmasterI don't know the difference12:07
dettoalt1imentiwhat folder is grub,conf in? arwen?12:07
puppetmasterwill it be the two desktops?12:07
BloodyTuxtold ya12:07
coreymon77puppetmaster: yes, it will be12:07
Arwendettoalt1imenti, sorry, in Ubuntu, it's menu.lst - it's in /boot/grub12:08
dettoalt1imentiah ok thanks12:08
BloodyTuxhow do i use gnome on kubuntu?12:08
coreymon77BloodyTux: install ubuntu12:08
puppetmasterok thanj u alot12:08
rubsoapt-get install gnome or ubuntu12:08
coreymon77BloodyTux: ubuntu is gnome and kubuntu is kde12:08
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puppetmasterI'll try12:08
rubsoboycott gnome !12:08
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coreymon77BloodyTux: its apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:08
BloodyTuxk12:08
Arwendettoalt1imenti, enabling it is slightly, cryptic, you want a walkthrough?12:09
BloodyTuxand what about other window managers like icewm, i can install them but howdo i start them?12:09
mcBloodyTux: gdm/kdem should give you an option what session to choose12:09
stoftBloodyTux: installing through the package manager usually adds them to the session menu in gdm/kdm12:09
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coreymon77on the login screen, click menu, go to session type and then choose which one you want12:09
BloodyTuxk12:10
dettoalt1imentiarwen yes please12:10
Arwendettoalt1imenti, ok, only thing I really need to know is your screen resolution - is it 1600x1200? 1280x1024? 1920x1080?12:10
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livingdaylightwoah!12:11
livingdaylighthallo peeps12:11
dettoalt1imentiarwen 1280x102412:11
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Arwendettoalt1imenti, great, one sec12:12
Arwendettoalt1imenti, find a line "# defoptions=<some junk here>"12:12
dettoalt1imentiarwen actually 1280x800, I know that sounds weird, but that's what it is12:12
BloodyTuxhow do i change my pw12:12
Arwen1280 x 800?12:12
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Sanneyung__: sorry... I was just involved in a discussion in another channel. Sorry my tip didn't work for you.12:12
livingdaylightwhen it says 'tomorrow' when exactly is that?12:13
CugelIn a few hours.;12:13
Kamuisomeone tell me there's a way to unzip multiple zip files in the same directory from the command line without having to individually type each filename in12:13
Arwendettoalt1imenti, uh, unfortunately, there's no fb mode for 1280x800..12:13
mclivingdaylight: no one knows it exactly like that12:13
BloodyTuxhow many hours!?!?!?!12:13
Kamuior using any utility12:13
stoftlivingdaylight: a rough guess is between now and then, I'd just take it easy, go out for a beer and wait until the day after.12:13
livingdaylightCugel: can yoube more precise?12:13
Cugel312:13

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