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kikoblueyed, hang on until the oops is prepared12:17
OgMaciel:)12:25
kikothis is a slow oven12:28
kikovery interesting oops12:28
kikoI need matsubara to look into it.12:28
kikoblueyed, hang on until tomrorow?12:28
blueyedkiko: I can come back. I just wondered if there should get a bug filed about it - either in apport or launchpad/malone.12:29
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kikoblueyed, hang on until mats is around because it's likely it's been reported.12:29
kikoit's a bug in malone, not apport, I am pretty sure12:29
blueyedkiko: I'll go off to bed in some minutes..12:30
apokryphosthere's a seemingly completely dormant account, ~francis, and I'm wondering if there's any possibility that it could be 'hijacked'12:30
kikoyou do that!12:30
kikoapokryphos, does he have any karma events?12:30
apokryphospartly because I'd quite like the francis@ubuntu address =)12:30
apokryphoskiko: nope12:30
kikoapokryphos, remind me about this tomorrow and I'll look into it for you.12:30
apokryphosok, thanks :)12:31
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ubotuNew bug: #54916 in Ubuntu "removal requests for dapper-proposed [blocked]  (dup-of: 56037)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5491601:20
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ubotuNew bug: #107371 in launchpad "Make the test suite able to be run in parallel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10737103:40
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ubotuNew bug: #107376 in malone "Bug page auto-focuses (and scrolls to) comment Subject field, preventing scrolling" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10737604:25
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ubotuNew bug: #107381 in launchpad-bazaar "Easy way to run the Launchpad-Bazaar tests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10738105:10
mptGoooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!05:30
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ubotuNew bug: #107386 in launchpad "Project groups with no projects should be penalized in search results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10738605:55
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ubotuNew bug: #107390 in launchpad-answers "If question asked in an unstaffed language, e-mail it anyway" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10739006:15
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ubotuNew bug: #107396 in launchpad-answers ""Change question status" page uses the word "workflow"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10739607:00
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ubotuNew bug: #107402 in malone "Package bugs list should have a "Total" row" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10740207:31
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carlosmorning09:26
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mdzgood morning10:26
mdzis staging expected back online soon?10:26
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stubTom Haddon (mthaddon): (15:26:42) mdz: is staging expected back online soon?10:37
mthaddonI'll get on that now10:37
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thumpermorning10:39
ajmitchhi thumper 10:41
pips1how can I browse bugs in LP filed against feisty?10:42
thumperhi ajmitch10:42
mdzpips1: bugs apply to Feisty unless indicated otherwise10:42
pips1ic10:43
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mthaddonstub, mdz: staging back online10:47
mthaddon^ running devel10:48
mpt"An internal server error occurred. Please try again later."10:54
carlosmpt: same here10:54
mptmthaddon, Launchpad is der broken10:54
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seb128hi10:55
seb128I get "An internal server error occurred. Please try again later." errors on launchpad10:55
mptseb128, you're not the only one :-)10:55
seb128k, good10:55
mdzmthaddon: thanks10:55
mthaddonmdz: looking now10:55
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mptseb128, staging.launchpad.net is up for read-only access, if that's any use to you10:57
=== ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad is down, Top Men are investigating | Next developer meeting: Thu 19 Apr 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
elmohowever, be aware, staging doesn't use the production DB, but rather a pretty old (ATM + IIRC) copy of it10:58
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seb128mpt: that is, thank you10:59
seb128elmo: ok10:59
mthaddonlaunchpad is back online11:01
popey\o/11:01
=== ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad 1.0 public beta, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 19 Apr 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
pips1how do I get a listing of bugs by assignee?11:02
mptpips1, you can click their name in any bug assigned to them11:03
mptOr click their name anywhere else, then click "Bugs", then click "Assigned" in the box on the left11:03
mptor do you mean a list of bugs in some project, sorted by assignee?11:04
pips1well, that would also be helpful11:05
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pips1mpt: thanks, got the bugs by assignee11:07
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pochuIt would be nice if, in the lp main page, where it says "Featured projects", it displays the projects' icons :)12:28
ubotuNew bug: #107449 in rosetta "Unable to upload a translationfile for clamwin in clamwin 0.88.4-i18n. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10744912:30
popeyerk, just got a 502 from lp when visiting https://launchpad.net/launchpad-answers12:30
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pochumpt: in the about page, where it says "Get an account", the account's "t" is behind the arrow. Should I file a bug about it?12:43
pochumpt: https://launchpad.net/+about12:43
mptpopey, yes, with a screenshot please12:44
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pochumpt: do you mean pochu? :)12:45
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mptpochu, yes, sorry popey 12:48
popeynp mpt 12:48
mptI'm surprised it's happening for you, unless your browser insists on quite wide fonts12:48
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pochumpt: bug 107454 :)12:57
ubotuMalone bug 107454 in launchpad ""t" in "Get an account" in +about is behind the arrow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10745412:57
pochuThis is using firefox 2.0 from the Ubuntu repos12:58
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cprovgood morning 01:04
pochumorning cprov01:04
ubotuNew bug: #107454 in launchpad ""t" in "Get an account" in +about is behind the arrow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10745401:05
popeyi only get that if I bump the font size up twice01:12
popeywhich is as I would expect really01:12
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statikmrevell: I've lost track, is there a launchpad users meeting today?01:20
mrevellstatik: Not today, no. I'll organise one for next week.01:20
statikmrevell: thanks!01:20
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ubotuNew bug: #107461 in launchpad ""Featured projects", in the lp main page, doesn't display the project icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10746101:55
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ubotuNew bug: #107473 in launchpad "List of release mirrors don't need a column saying whether they're up-to-date or not" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10747302:30
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flacostesalgado, kiko: BjornT is sick today, who should chair the EU/Americas reviewers' meeting?04:07
Hobbseeflacoste: you offering?04:07
flacostei guess so...04:08
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salgadoflacoste, what time are we supposed to have it? (/me forgot)04:41
flacostesalgado: 40 mins ago :-)04:43
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kikoflacoste, you, of course!04:55
kikolet's start?04:55
flacosteok04:55
flacosteWelcom to the Americas/EU Reviewers Meeting04:56
kikowilkommen04:57
flacosteMeeting Agenda04:57
flacosteMeeting Agenda04:57
flacoste==============04:57
flacoste* Roll call04:58
flacoste* Next meeting04:58
flacoste* Queue status.04:58
flacoste* How are post-merge reviews of rs/trivial commits going? (BjornT for .eu)04:58
flacoste* Training up reviewers - to discuss (BjornT for .eu)04:58
flacoste* [fasttrack]  (BjornT for .eu)04:58
flacoste* Urgent review requests (lifeless for .au)04:58
flacoste* Other business04:58
flacosteSo who's here today?04:58
flacostekiko, salgado: ping04:58
salgadoyeah, I'm here04:59
flacoste* Next meeting04:59
flacosteAny objections to Wednesday April 25th 14UTC?05:00
kikosorry, people keep sending me love05:00
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flacosteok, same time, same channel05:00
flacoste* Queue status.05:00
kikosame time same channel dot com05:01
kikohow's our queue lookin flacoste?05:01
flacostevery good, only 4 reviews are above SLA05:01
flacostetwo from BjornT who is sick05:01
flacosteand two from spiv "the slacker"05:01
salgadoand most of the needs-review ones are quite small05:01
flacostewell, there are lot of them, but were all assigned yesterday05:02
kikodoes anyone need me to look at them?05:02
kikoif it's less than 500 lines I volunteer05:02
flacostekiko: you have three branches assigned05:02
flacosteone you did already (mine)05:02
kikoyes, yes05:02
kikobut replies are easy to manage05:02
flacostekiko, there is <500 branch from jtv that's assigned to Bjorn05:03
kikoI could do that one05:03
flacosteok, i'll reassign it05:04
flacosteany other comments on the queue?05:05
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flacoste* How are post-merge reviews of rs/trivial commits going? (BjornT for .eu)05:05
flacostesince BjornT is not here, anyone want to comment?05:05
kikodid we get many trivials lately?05:05
kikoI don't think I've seen any of these05:05
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flacoste10 since last week05:06
flacosteone nice thing though is that we now have the diff if it's under <1000 in the message to arch-commit05:06
kikothat is very cool05:07
kikoand we all know that no branches should be more than 1000 lines right05:07
flacostewhich means it is easier to do post-merge review for trivial commits05:07
flacostekiko: well, in general yes, bus some massive search/replace edit sometime blow this up05:07
flacostebut in general, trivial diff should be less than 1000 lines05:07
kikoof course. I was being silly05:08
flacosteit should be easy to reply to a [trivial]  commit message to launchpad-reviews with post-merge review05:09
kikoflacoste, isn't that list shared with bazaar committers?05:09
kikoI thought it was05:09
flacosteit's not05:10
flacosteat least, I do not receive any messages from commit to bzr05:10
kikowe can just have someone set up Reply-To for it05:10
kikodo I admin that list?05:10
kikoI don't think I do05:10
flacosteany decision or more discussion regarding that point?05:12
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kikoI will take action on it05:12
flacoste* Training up reviewers - to discuss (BjornT for .eu)05:12
kikoI think that list belongs to lifeless I am researching05:13
flacostekiko, what action exactly?05:13
kikosetting a reply-to05:13
kikoon the commits list05:13
flacostegreat05:13
flacosteagain, BjornT isn't here to discuss the training topic05:14
kikoso training reviewers05:14
kikowhat could we do about it?05:14
flacostereading from the .au meeting05:15
flacostei see that the consensus seems to forward the reviews of trainee to another reviewer in the first weeks05:15
flacosteother item mentioned was that reviewers should update appropriate documentation (FAQ, StyleGuide, etc.) when they see an issue that comes up often in reviews05:16
flacostepoint being that: "05:16
flacostethere is05:16
flacoste(currently) nothing that reviewers should look for that regular05:16
flacostedevelopers should not be doing themselves05:16
flacoste"05:16
kikothat's of course true05:17
flacostepersonally, i think this is a good strategy05:17
kikoso how about05:18
kikoif each of us took on a reviewer to coach?05:18
kikoflacoste could take barry 05:18
kikowho else is up for training?05:18
statikstevea did a review last week with bac and I looking on. I found it quite useful as a training exercise. We used gobby to edit the patch, and all took part in adding review comments. We were talking in person, but that could easily be replaced by a voice call.05:18
salgadokiko, somebody mentioned thumper 05:19
flacostei was about to :-)05:19
backiko: yes, working with steve was useful.  i'm in.05:19
kikosalgado, great idea, but I'm not volunteering to coach him :)05:19
thumperhello05:19
thumperwhat05:19
kikothumper, the police want you for questioning05:20
kikothey think you killed laura palmer05:20
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kikoEOT05:20
kikobac, do you want me to be your coach?05:20
backiko: sure05:21
kikosmart move05:21
flacosteso we have barry/flacoste, bac/kiko, thumper/salgado?05:21
salgadosure05:21
bacstatik?05:22
sinzuiBob is in thumper?05:22
kikono05:22
kikonot thumper/salgado05:22
thumperBob who?05:22
kikothat will kill them05:22
flacostethumper: Twin Peeaks reference05:22
flacostethumper: he's the evil spirit that killed laura palmer, sorry for the spoiler :-)05:23
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thumperah, ok05:23
thumperI don't get to watch too much TV these days05:23
thumperjust Boston Legal05:23
thumperand House05:23
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kikosorry05:23
kikowho will coach thumper?05:23
kikoand who will salgado coach?05:24
thumperwhat about spiv or jamesh?05:24
thumperat least they are relatively close05:24
flacostethat's good point05:24
flacosteso salgado could coach statik05:24
flacosteand thumper is up for adoption by a .au reviewer05:24
statikflacoste: great!05:24
flacostei'll put that up on next week agenda05:24
salgadosounds good to me05:24
flacosteso should we tell lifeless to start assigning reviews to our new reviewers in training?05:25
kikoflacoste... I think yes05:25
kikothat's a good idea05:25
bacis there a RIT merit badge?05:26
flacostei'll update the PendingReviews page05:26
kikoyou do that05:26
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kikoand email lifeless?05:26
kikoroyal institute of technology05:26
flacosteindeed05:26
bacflacoste: it was your term...05:26
flacostebac: ok05:26
flacoste* [fasttrack]  (BjornT for .eu)05:27
kikoit's a good idea05:27
kikobecause it documents something which is already happening anyway05:27
flacostethat's currently on discussion on the list05:27
kikofasttrack has mandatory post-review AIUI?05:28
flacosteSee "Documentation for urgent reviews?" thread05:28
kikoyeah05:28
flacostethere is no [fasttrack]  PQM yet05:28
kikoI wonder why :)05:28
salgadobecause we have [trivial]  :p05:29
flacostecurrent consensus seems to be to stick with current practice:05:29
kiko10 points to the soccer player on the left05:29
flacostegrab a reviewer online and ask for assistance, and failing that put it on the PendingReviews page with a clear note about its urgency and mail the launchpad-reviews list for added measure.05:29
kikoflacoste, what are you talking about?!05:30
flacostei am quoting lifeless email05:30
salgadourgent reviews05:30
kikothat seems to be ignoring the issue completely05:31
kikothe issue is that landings that are fasttrack won't go through this process05:31
kikono matter how much we would like them to05:31
flacostethat's another matter then05:32
flacosteit's about having an explicit [fasttrack]  merge tag which should be scheduled for post-merge review05:32
kikois it? isn't that exactly what fasttrack?05:32
kikoright05:33
kikothat's what I am talking about05:33
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kikoright!05:33
flacosteso let's postpone that then05:33
flacostemoving on...05:33
flacoste* Other business05:33
flacostei have05:33
flacosteI completed TestsStyleGuide last week, only comments I received was from barry which said "good stuff"05:34
flacostebut two reviewers already refered to it, so I guess I didn't do a bad job05:34
flacosteanyone else read it and want to comment on it?05:34
flacostes/which said/who said/05:34
kikoI want to read it05:34
kikobut it's backlogged05:34
kikoI think it is invaluable05:34
kikoso don't feel demotivated, it's totally worth the work05:35
salgadoit's great05:35
flacosteI don't feel demotivated at all, it's just that I had some doubts to the document structure I came with05:35
statikflacoste: I missed this document, but just looked at it now it seems very useful05:35
kikostatik, you get 10 demerits05:36
flacostei put a long of context and explanations in there, I wondered if a checklist style of document wouldn't have been more useful05:37
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flacosteok, any other business?05:38
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flacosteMEETING ENDS05:39
kikothanks flacoste 05:39
kikosorry for being so on and off05:39
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GankutsuouHello folks, need help!06:53
GankutsuouHow do I add a team here https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/groups/ubuntu-translators ?06:54
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pochuGankutsuou: a rosetta admin should do it for you06:57
pochuGankutsuou: which language do you want to add?06:57
Gankutsuouwhere can I find one?06:58
Gankutsuouhttps://translations.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-kn/06:58
matsubara-lunchcarlos, danilos: ^07:00
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carlosmatsubara-lunch: thanks07:00
Gankutsuouah thanks pochu dude07:02
pochuGankutsuou: np.07:02
pochuGankutsuou: BTW, which language is that? :)07:02
pochuI'm curious07:02
Gankutsuouhehe, it's kannada, an Indian language07:02
carlosGankutsuou: it's done07:02
pochuoh :)07:03
Gankutsuoulanguage spoken in Bangalore :)07:03
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ubotuNew bug: #107534 in rosetta "Trying to edit language in translation group causes an OOPS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10753407:30
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carlossee you tomorrow!07:53
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andi5hi... this is probably an faq-type questions, but it bugs me :) ... so is there a way to search in launchpad for distribution source packages that lead to binaries that containing files named like a given string in some architecture, just like what packages.ubuntu.com provides? ... thanks for any hint / redirection!09:07
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blueyedkiko: About the OOPS-472A1275 from yesterday.. was it filed already as a bug?09:34
ubotuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/472A127509:34
kikomatsubara, can you check on that for me please?09:36
matsubarablueyed: checking09:36
kikothanks for reminding me blueyed, btw09:36
blueyednp.. luckily Konversation shows the last lines from before the hibernation.09:37
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pochumatsubara: (re: bug 107454) I've tried with a firefox clean profile, and still happens10:05
ubotuMalone bug 107454 in launchpad ""t" in "Get an account" in +about is behind the arrow" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10745410:05
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matsubarapochu: add any information you have to the bug please.10:10
ubotuNew bug: #107563 in malone "VPN not functioning for usual users" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10756310:11
pochumatsubara: already done :)10:11
pochuhmm, I missed one thing10:11
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pochuupdated10:13
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blueyedIs "apport" not running currently? Did not seem to retrace anything lately: https://launchpad.net/~apport/+karma11:13
blueyedoh.. "karma" is updated daily only..11:13
kikothe karma totals are11:14
kikobut the events are not11:14
blueyedah.. then the service does not seem to be running currently!?11:15
kikosounds like something's weird11:15
apokryphoskiko: hi 8)11:18
kikohey11:18
apokryphoskiko: busy atm? I spoke to you yesterday briefly regarding ~francis11:19
kikoapokryphos, give me 10 minutes11:19
apokryphossure11:19
kikoblueyed, this is strange. can you check what's up with seb128 on an ubuntu channel?11:19
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blueyedkiko: seb128 is offline since 1.5h. Anyone else who  could take a look? Is ubuntu-devel appropriate?11:21
kikoblueyed, yes I think so. do you know how the apport commenter works?11:22
blueyedkiko: bdmurray said in #ubuntu-bugs that the service has been paused.11:22
blueyedThe service looks for need-$ARCH-retrace tags and retraces them. Very useful.11:23
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kikoI see11:23
kikookay, so that's what's up11:23
zaheedhi for the last couple of days i am receiving the following error: any hint..11:24
zaheedUsing saved location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/hadoop/trunk/11:24
zaheedbzr: ERROR: Permission denied: '58/datajoinjob.java-20070324061041-7nmex296jde2df5f-12.knit': [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/opt/local/repos/bzr.hadoop/.bzr/repository/knits/58/datajoinjob.java-20070324061041-7nmex296jde2df5f-12.knit'11:24
kikogrumble11:24
kikoI need a bzr guy to look at that11:24
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kikoand nobody is around :-(11:25
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kikozaheed, sounds like a bug in our supermirror perms11:25
zaheedshould i file a report..11:25
ubotuNew bug: #107575 in malone "Launchpad should handle invalid blob encoding better" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10757511:35
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ubotuNew bug: #107580 in launchpad-answers "Redirection code is broken for /support" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10758012:00
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