[12:15] hehe. I didn't repeat. I SAID it ;-) [12:16] been active in -bugs and -motu. and I read feisty-changes, and I've seen him there :-) [12:17] elmo, mako? [12:17] +1 [12:18] yes, definitel ya +1 form me [12:18] welcome aboard, ScottK! [12:18] Thank you everyone. [12:18] YAY! [12:18] bkingx: you're up! [12:18] My name is Brian King. I have been advocating Ubuntu since the day I started using it in December of 2006. Before that I was a Yellowdog user. I am a co-founder and a team leader for the Kentucky Team. My Ubuntu pages are https://launchpad.net/~brianking and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/brianking. [12:18] wooo bkingx [12:18] nick ranf === ranf_ is now known as ranf [12:19] mako, did you +1/0/-1 for kkubasik already? [12:19] https://launchpad.net/~kkubasik [12:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinKubasik [12:19] yes, i know [12:19] i just haven't had a chance yet [12:19] ok, no sweat [12:20] was looking at other laptop for a bit and thought I missed it :) [12:20] bkingx: from LP it looks like advocacy / Loco work is your primary focus? [12:20] Correct [12:20] Making bog moves in the Kentucky Team [12:20] i'm here cheering for bkingx++. he's helped start the kentucky team, which has been a great team. lots of loco advocacy, online in irc a lot, and really pushing the envelope in what ideas can be presenting in spreading ubuntu locally [12:20] when did you become active in this regard? [12:20] bkingx has my +1. hes's a sharp guy and very valuable to the ky loco team. === etank agrees with zenwhen [12:21] sabdfl: January, when the KY Team was founded. [12:21] he's another valuable asset, that i plan on using for the US Teams Project in mentoring other loco state teams to get approved [12:21] we met the other day to hand out flyers for our install fest. struck me as very professional and committed to ubuntu. [12:21] ty guys! [12:22] Folks, my 2-month-old is hungry and my wife is out; if I'm still feeding her at my turn I may ask that you kick me down the queue a bit. [12:22] micahcowan, noted [12:22] bkingx has been one of the driving forces for the Kentucky Team. Lots of great ideas coming from him. [12:23] ok, +1 from me for bkingx on the back of strong advocacy and loco leadership over 3+ months [12:23] nice === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Liberate] [12:23] ty sabdfl [12:23] micahcowan, just poke when you're back. Until you poke we'll pick others :) [12:24] Ok. If for some reason you run out of folks before I poke, just call me anyway. She can wait a few minutes for her bottle :) [12:25] elmo, mako? === mako is happy with bkingx as well! [12:25] ty mako [12:25] +1 from me [12:25] +1 [12:25] nice! [12:25] congrats === etank high fives bkingx [12:26] emonkey, you're up [12:26] First, I've updated just my launchpad page from ~ubuntu-de to ~emonkey and I don't dare to edit de CC agenda wikipage during the meeting so there is the old link. Sorry for that. [12:26] good times! [12:26] wife's back, I'm good [12:26] bkingx: congrats! [12:26] Hi! - I am Sputnik from the german kubuntu-community. Before I have to leave now I would like to promote candidate emonkey today who is on the list later. Emonkey has done a good job so far for the community here around and I trust his actvities. [12:26] Thank you all!! [12:26] I'm a 23 years aged system engineer who works in an assurance company and will start to study information technology at an university of applied sciences in zurich.'m part of the KubuntuGermanTeam and the Ubuntu SwissTeam. The next activity we do is the ../SwissTeam/ReleasePartyFeisty in Zurich] . I'll be at the Kubuntu booth on the LinuxTag in Berlin. Warty was my first Distro which has freed me from windows and it was [12:26] my start in contributing to the growing community. Unfortunately my english isn't the best so the biggest part of my activities are in communities which are speaking my native language. [12:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Emonkey [12:26] https://launchpad.net/~emonkey [12:26] are there other german/swiss people to cheer for emonkey ? [12:26] yup [12:26] I am [12:26] yes [12:27] then cheer! [12:27] yes [12:27] yes [12:27] tell us about emonkey [12:27] the guy is in for the release party even if exams are eating him alive :-) [12:27] +1 for emonkey [12:27] emonkey is an absolute essential member of the german kubuntu community. Without his encouragement there would be no german speaking kubuntu forum anymore. [12:27] without him we would be nothing [12:27] he administrates the server and the forum [12:27] kubuntu-de.org that is [12:27] I 'll agree with neversfelde he pointed it out [12:27] thx all [12:27] you're great === txwikinger agress with neversfelde, Monika|K [12:28] me as well, neversfelde said it as it is [12:28] emonkey, how's the interaction between the german kubuntu and ubuntu team coming along? [12:28] s/agress/agrees/ [12:28] btw. hes not only a hard worker but a real ubuntero [12:29] emonkey: did you do any iso testing of feisty RC? [12:29] Seveas, primary on expos atm === bkingx is now known as bkingx_away [12:29] sabdfl, I tryed and will do more in for that for gutsy [12:29] your release party looks fun :) [12:29] cool === pkl_ [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pips1 chirps in some swiss cheers for emonkey [12:29] Unfortunately there are some importent exams right now [12:30] pips1, very, very bad pun :p [12:30] can you provide a link to your contributions in the forums? [12:30] http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?action=profile (only in german) [12:30] Since emonkey took over the administration of the German Kubuntu site, there is plenty of communication between us and the German Ubuntu team and ubuntuusers.de [12:30] 2414 posts [12:30] in german ;-) [12:30] s/and/at [12:30] that's very very good news [12:31] Seveas: heh [12:31] indeed [12:31] +1 from me, on the basis of leadership in getting ubuntu and kubuntu teams coordinated and in sync [12:31] the relationship between us is on a very good way [12:31] We have IRC meetings with them and worked together on the Linuxtag in Chemnitz (an Expo) [12:31] Dieses Mitglied ist nicht vorhanden. Das Profil kann nicht editiert werden. [12:32] sabdfl, sorry my fault, just a secone [12:32] sabdfl: you're quick in picking up german [12:32] elmo, mako? [12:32] s/secone/second/ [12:32] emonkey: no... that link only works if you are logged in AS YOU :) [12:32] mako, yes sorry one mom === Zuph [n=bradluys@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === mako has found some stuff in the forums anyway [12:32] but anyway, +1 on the basis of the very serious forums work [12:32] http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28 [12:32] should be http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28 [12:33] emonkey: i know this has been brought up before [12:33] +1 [12:33] lots and lots o' coffee there :-) [12:33] Netzaffe :) [12:33] but if you haven't, you should talk to MikeB- or someone else from the official forums [12:33] :) [12:33] emonkey, Gutsy Netzaffe? ;) [12:34] anyway, congratz and welcome! [12:34] the idea isn't necessary to merge them (although as a long term goal, that would be great) but to provide links to provide prominent links to each other [12:34] micahcowan, you're up [12:34] Well, I've been active since June last year, mostly in bug triaging and bug fixing. I also do support via IRC when I have the time to spare. I love Ubuntu, and it's really kicked a community-involvement thing into me: didn't used to really get involved in fixing bugs I encountered; now I'm quick to join up on bug mailing lists so I can work with upstream when appropriate. :) [wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MicahCowan] [LP: https://launchpad.net/ [12:34] ~micah-cowan/] [12:34] :9 yes I was vera pleased to hear the new codename :) [12:34] I don't have a posse, but, I think some of the folks here may have encountered enough of my work to give a recommendation. Actually, that's what I was talking about with mako and jono: to see if I should consider applying if I don't have a fanclub (http://micah.cowan.name/jono-mail.txt). [12:34] thx all [12:34] congratz emonkey :) === Seveas adds a cheer for micahcowan, he's being very modest now: I see him quite often around #ubuntu [12:35] Oh yeah, LaserJock said he might throw in if he was still around :) === LaserJock is in the micahcowan fan club [12:35] heh === netztier [n=bnfh@178.13.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [12:36] "written in PostScript" ... [12:36] MikeB-, emonkey: it might be useful to work with a bunch of people to create a drop-down menu and an image or someting that you can put in the header of all of the different fora that link to the other ones.. so if you want a particular language/subtopic/loco, you can at least see what's available [12:36] PostScript so rox. It's so underrated. [12:36] mako, I'll note that [12:36] thx for hint [12:36] micahcowan, you write raw postscript by hand? [12:36] micahcowan: have you had good experiences coordinating between the distro and upstream? [12:36] mako: we are discussing that [12:37] Seveas, yeah; it's actually just a programming language, more or less like any other (except it's heavily stack based and... cool). [12:37] O_o [12:37] Don't know whether I'm scared or impressed now [12:37] isn't it some lithp / thcheme variant? [12:37] sabdfl, yes, as in the experiences have been good. "good" as in plenty of experience? I dunno, it's a somewhat recent (but fairly active) thing. [12:37] MikeB-: i konw i've talked to some people about before, just thought i would poke it again :) [12:37] positive, is what i meant :-) [12:37] No, it's... probably closer to Perl/Python, really, but the syntax is quite different. [12:38] sabdfl, so far, more than I expected. Especially my (brief) encounter on the kernel dev list [12:38] cool [12:38] http://micah.cowan.name/svn/ps-maze/maze.ps?view=markup [12:39] yup, I'm scared [12:39] Seveas, it's kind of a reverse-polish notation language. You end up thinking backwards a lot: you don't "call" with "arguments"; you explicitly place 'em on the stack, and then just invoke the routine :) === sabdfl thinks that at least the *indentation* is familiar ;-) [12:40] heh [12:40] micahcowan, I love rpn :) [12:40] ok, +1 from me based on duration of contribution, and support from all and sundry [12:40] Seveas, then you should /really/ check out Adobe's PLRM (PostScript spec). I think you'd enjoy it. [12:40] i don't get your [+] and [d] notation :) [12:40] at all [12:40] but i like the fact that you're submitting and patching bugs :) [12:41] mako, sorry: + means I submitted the bug (IIRC), and (d) means I supplied a diff. [12:41] d == diff, ok [12:41] yes, this all looks great [12:41] micahcowan: thanks for your contributions, i agree with jono, +1 from me [12:42] :) thanks [12:42] elmo, ? [12:42] micahcowan: your wiki page is quite good. thanks for putting the effort into it === sabdfl wants to put some other random bits into PDF's he sends around [12:42] yw. ...I knew if I didn't start in on it from the very beginning, it'd be pure crap when I finally actually needed it... [12:42] +1 [12:43] micahcowan, welcome aboard! [12:43] yeager, you're next (and last) [12:43] Yay! :D [12:43] I'm 32 years old, living in Stockholm, Sweden. My work for Ubuntu is mainly about Swedish translations but also support for ubuntu-se, creating localized Ubuntu CDs for Nordic languages, filing bug reports. I work in the IT Security sector and have been using Linux since version 0.99pl15, Debian since 1997 and Ubuntu since 2004. [12:43] Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~yeager/ [12:43] Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/yeager [12:43] elmo: hi there! long time no see :) === ubuntugeek [n=ubuntuge@ubuntu/member/ubuntugeek] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:43] 2004 was Warty :-) === leogg [n=leandro@indra-102.cablenet.com.ni] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [12:44] yeager: how can we improve collaboration between debian and ubuntu translators? [12:44] May I emphasize this: [12:44] Karma: 32330 [12:44] /wave === ozamosi [n=ozamosi@ubuntu/member/ozamosi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:44] 32-f-ing-thousand! [12:44] :) [12:44] sabdfl: in Swedish we do good. yeager translates _everything_ ;-) [12:44] nice :-) [12:45] it's pretty clearly +1 from me on the back of the scale of your contribution :-) [12:45] sabdfl: debian is putting up a translation service based on Pootle. things are still a bit early to say [12:45] but i'd like to hear your thoughts on how we make things better [12:46] i hope that works out well [12:46] ok, definite +1 from me based on huge l10n contribution [12:47] you said that alrady :) [12:47] re [12:47] sabdfl: debian translators are looking forward to new technologies, such as web-based translation services like Rosetta. The Swedish translation team for Debian is, well, me. I do involve myself in debian-l10n and read their mailing list on a daily basis [12:48] mako, elmo? [12:48] many of the Debian translators are also part of other teams like GNOME and KDE [12:48] hold up.. still looking this over [12:48] he have helped me and ozamosi a far amount when we've tried translating :-) [12:49] Nafallo: you need to work on your Swedish grammar :) [12:49] yeager: indeed. but you keep showing me how :-) [12:49] https://answers.launchpad.net/~alanpope/ [12:49] wow [12:49] i love exploring [12:50] easy +1 from me [12:50] loads of translations work [12:50] pretty staggering actually [12:50] yeah, +1 [12:50] yeager: thanks! :) [12:50] yeager, welcome aboard :) [12:50] alrighty then! [12:50] YAY! [12:50] thanks, guys [12:50] Woho! :D [12:50] Seveas: thanks once again for steering us along [12:51] datetime of next meeting: may 1st 13:00 UTC? [12:51] I'm travelling then [12:51] elmo: say hi to the nocrew guys next time you meet them [12:51] may first is not working class friendly ;-) [12:51] ok [12:51] alright then! [12:51] i'm on the road then, too [12:52] we could skip a meeting and give the new CC members a good amount of work on their first meeting :) [12:52] yeager: heh, will do [12:52] or is allhands in the way there? (would be the week after uds) [12:52] hehe [12:52] Seveas: don't be evil :) [12:52] well done all [12:52] Seveas: allhands is in november [12:52] only once a year :-( [12:52] hehe [12:53] Thanks again everyone. [12:53] Ditto :) [12:53] Seveas: have you been doing LP? [12:53] so may 16, 13:00? [12:53] elmo, will do later [12:53] Seveas: ah, ok [12:53] including votes [12:53] may 16th is ok for me, AFAIK, it's after UDS at least [12:53] 279 members [12:53] may 1 is a long time away! [12:53] sorry, 16th [12:53] some members will expire in may [12:54] I already mailed them [12:54] we need to get the delegated membership thing going === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D85E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:54] night all [12:54] night === yeager [n=yeager@213.132.115.138] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] [12:54] sabdfl, many of the people who are now direct member will be delegated members in a few months :) === mindspin [n=mindspin@unaffiliated/mindspin] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [12:55] g'night all, have to get up in 6 hours so I'm out [12:55] sorry this is late, do i need to get reapproved or anything to use ubuntuforums.org? [12:56] ubuntugeek, you mean wrt trademarks? [12:56] yep [12:57] ubuntugeek, I don't think mark is stupid enough to try to force you to rename ubuntuforums.org :) [12:57] sabdfl: night [12:58] ubuntugeek: any existing trademark license you've arranged with silbs will continue [12:58] lol [12:58] night all === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [12:58] ubuntugeek: it's an official part of ubuntu [12:58] ok :) just wanted to make sure [12:58] permission is necessary when people that are not ubuntu want to call their thing ubuntu [12:58] whats silbs? [12:58] funnyafricannameforums.org? [12:58] ubuntugeek, Jane Silber [12:58] LaserJock: lol [12:58] Ah ok [12:58] ubuntugeek: jane siber's IRC nick [12:58] ubuntugeek: jane silber [12:58] ubuntugeek: anyway, don't sweat it [12:58] LaserJock: that name is taken:( [12:58] Well since we don't have anything I suppose we should :) [12:58] :) [12:58] mako: ok [12:58] LaserJock: may i pm? [12:59] joejaxx: don't ask, do :-) [12:59] mako: ehrm. so if yeager spins Ubuntu Nordic it doesn't need to be named Ubuntu Nordic Remix? :-) [01:01] Nafallo: it might depend on how he does it [01:01] it has to be blessed by the project [01:01] which, if there is any debate, is decided by the CC [01:02] the forums *are* an official part of ubuntu, within the ubuntu governance structure [01:02] that would be a much harder argument to make about Ubuntu Nordic [01:02] at least right now :) [01:02] throws out *langpacks and throws in nordic langpacks + keeps english :-) [01:03] yea, I know. even if we are synced to swedish and soon norweigan official mirrors ;-) [01:03] ok, I have to crash - night all === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["."] [01:04] hehe. no time to say gnight there :-P === Sanne [n=Sanne@c-134-230-82.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bye"] === effraie [n=effraie@unaffiliated/effraie] has left 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[05:04] theCore: You have to contact The Fridge people, whoever they may be. 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[02:02] hello [02:02] hi jsgotangco, ogra [02:02] pips1_: [02:02] ogra: technical [02:02] tech: we're ready for release ;) === RichEd applauds ... good to go [02:03] nice [02:03] if you didnt help testing yet, here you can look up tests that are still missing [02:03] ogra: are you happy overall ? [02:03] https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/ [02:03] there aren't that many tests missing really [02:04] i'm happy apart from the fact that i'd like to have had the fix for bug 105709 earlier [02:04] Malone bug 105709 in ltsp "sound config not reset after thin client usage" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105709 [02:04] but it can go into -updates [02:04] apart from that i'm happy all over :) [02:04] ogra: you didn't help testing? === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F76CF2.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:04] pips1_, ?? [02:04] lol === RichEd thanks all who have contributed & helped with the new version [02:05] ah, sorry misread [02:05] i tested all CDs as usual [02:05] and i will go for a netboot install test as soon as the meeting is done [02:05] +++ [02:05] seems thats the last missing one [02:06] i did test the amd64 DVD for edubuntu (as well as the other amd64 for ubuntu) [02:06] all we need now is a release announcem,ent and we can start speccing gutsy ;) [02:06] for gutsy i have a list of thins i want to spec: [02:06] yes, 2 netboot tests missing, 5 edubuntu server tests and 2 desktop tests [02:07] *things [02:07] The release was prepared by Jane Silber ... it is a combined one. Will is going to post for us. Will ... do you have a copy ? [02:07] not yet [02:07] but can post it easy enough [02:07] let me ask her for the latest one [02:07] hmm it used to be community written though [02:07] will I need to Edubuntise it? [02:08] RichEd, no, we'll need our own notes on the webpage, the combined one links to it [02:08] jsgotangco, I assume it is taken from coomunity contribs [02:08] well let me get the combined one, and then we can see what to add / modify [02:08] ogra, ah, noow I get it [02:08] we dont modify that one [02:09] RichEd, ^^^ [02:09] we just need our webpage to be ready by release ... === etank_ is now known as etank [02:09] i mean we use the ubuntu combined one as a starting point, and then flesh out more detail .... keeping language style etc consistent [02:09] and its up to us to send a separate announcement to any edubuntu MLs [02:09] yes, the download page needs updating === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@123.200.138.15] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:09] but we wont have one separately to ubuntu-announce === RichEd nods ... that's they way in understand it as well [02:10] way *I [02:10] right, but let me finish tech ;) thats docs ;) === pips1_ looks around for highvoltage [02:10] so i want to have a bunch of specs for gutsy: [02:11] 1. finish ltsp manager (seems the demand gets bigger here and feisty doesnt have it yet) [02:11] 2. make the VNC stuff work out of the box in TCM [02:11] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients has instructions for feisty ... [02:12] we'll need to automate that stuff in gutsy [02:12] +1 [02:12] 3. merge python-tcm and python-ltsp ... [02:12] cbx33 isnt here today, sad [02:12] 4. ltsp speed profiling [02:12] http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootSpeedeBox2300 is horrific [02:13] i agreed with all other ltsp devs that we will put the main focus for gutsy on that ... that means we'll have a lot of profiling sessions in sevilla ... [02:14] and hopefulle that will bring us a extremely slimlined -ltsp kernel image as well .. [02:14] any fault tolerance specs? [02:14] suppose they'll come out at UDS [02:14] 5. ldm rewrite ... a new guio is nearly done (i wrote it ovber easter) nearly three times as fast and only 10% in size of the curren one [02:15] willvdl, can you elaborate ? === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [02:15] things like persistance in connections [02:15] hi pips1_ [02:15] session management etc [02:15] https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+branch/ltsp/ldm-greeter <-- in case anyone is interested in committing code ... [02:15] willvdl, thats something Xorg must provide first ... [02:16] willvdl: there was a request to discuss fault tolerance at UES ... let me get the launcpad link [02:16] ogra, true, hence I remembered uds [02:16] session management is TCM ... we'll surely enhance it further [02:16] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/fault-tolerant-edubuntu === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:16] RichEd, aware of that, but the technical spec side is reliant on upstream work [02:17] 6. improve ldm error handling (give useful input to users if a login fails) [02:17] and my biggest one: [02:17] willvdl: well we need to get the requirements in the discussion, and note dependencies & possibilities of what can or can't be done === bkingx_away is now known as bkingx [02:17] 7. drop the first edubuntu CD and make it a ubuntu-thin-client-server.iso ... edubuntu should move to the addon CD completely [02:18] i know 7 will be most controversial === jsgotangco just blinked [02:18] :) [02:18] thats my list of specs i want to register ... [02:18] ogra: from a technical perspective, it does make sense. it also breaks the 'turnkey' component of edubuntu [02:18] then again... ubuntu is easy enough to install these days. [02:18] highvoltage, + [02:19] highvoltage: we can still provide the turnkey option as an .iso [02:19] I think it opens up opportunities for more turnkey options [02:19] RichEd: a teacher doesn't consider it turnkey if they have to press eject on their cd-drive twice;) [02:20] RichEd: please don't ge t me wronge, I'm not apposed to it [02:20] highvoltage, beyond ltsp setup in the installer there is nothing that really justifies to have the first edubuntu CD ... if you drop the installer part, only artwork, some settings and package selection are left [02:20] these will work very well from the second CD [02:21] with moodle and friends on 2nd CD? [02:21] ogra: yes, I agree [02:21] *and* we could make the addon CD apply to ubuntu *and-+ kubuntu with that setup ... so its totally up to the user what base desktop he has [02:21] willvdl, right [02:21] ogra: that's very cool [02:22] even xfce would be possible :) === pips1_ thinks this is a good move [02:22] also with that approach, it allows for more "agressive marketing" of thin client ubuntu ... good commercial opportunties (I mean for corporate market) [02:22]