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| Felix765 | hi, I'd like some help with ltsp | 12:48 |
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| Felix765 | I think i've got it installed OK. But I cannot connect from a (thick) client using Terminal Server Client | 12:49 |
| Felix765 | I'm using Feisty | 12:50 |
| cliebow | Felix765 terminal server client?? | 12:51 |
| cliebow | has naught to do with ltsp | 12:52 |
| cliebow | you do meana windows terminal server client? | 12:52 |
| Felix765 | No, the Termianl server client in edubuntu desktop | 12:53 |
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| Felix765 | Hi pips1 | 01:05 |
| pips1 | hi | 01:05 |
| Felix765 | Do you happen to know anything about ltsp? | 01:05 |
| pips1_ | a little :) | 01:06 |
| willvdl | eeek! a clone! | 01:07 |
| pips1_ | hehe | 01:07 |
| Felix765 | I'm new to it. Running edubuntu server and trying to connect from edubuntu desktop, but get 'connection refused' | 01:07 |
| willvdl | Felix765, how are you trying to connect? | 01:08 |
| Felix765 | I'm using the Terminal Server Client in ed. desktop | 01:08 |
| Felix765 | Should I use RDP setting or VLC etc? | 01:08 |
| Felix765 | How can I tell if ltsp is even running on the server? Is there a process I can grep for? | 01:09 |
| Felix765 | I don't want to use thin client, just client app running on thick client. | 01:09 |
| pips1 | Felix765: I would like to help you, but I'm busy preparing some text for the release tomorrow. | 01:10 |
| pips1 | can you come back at another time? | 01:10 |
| Felix765 | Sure | 01:10 |
| pips1 | sorry :) | 01:10 |
| cliebow | Felix765, ltsp is all about thin client..but there are numeroous ways to get a desktop on a linux server | 01:10 |
| bimberi | Felix765: Just install a vncserver on the server and connect to that. | 01:11 |
| cliebow | nx is way cool...vnc is..well.challenged | 01:11 |
| cliebow | an sshvnc-applet works | 01:11 |
| Burgwork | cliebow: nx has serious licensing issues | 01:11 |
| bimberi | well, vnc is ok on a LAN ;) | 01:11 |
| cliebow | ohh??freenx? | 01:11 |
| Felix765 | Doesn't vnc take over an existing running desktop, whereas terminal server method logs in to new session? | 01:12 |
| Burgwork | cliebow: well, freenx is nice but the nx people are not playing nice with the X people | 01:12 |
| bimberi | Felix765: no, that's vino | 01:12 |
| Felix765 | bimberi: vino? | 01:12 |
| bimberi | Felix765: you can set up separate sessions using vnc | 01:12 |
| cliebow | ltsp is about thin-client..d/l a kernel..mount aan nfs chroot | 01:12 |
| bimberi | !vino-server | 01:12 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about vino-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:12 |
| bimberi | urgh | 01:12 |
| cliebow | Burgwork, i am sorry to hear thatr.. | 01:13 |
| bimberi | !info vino | 01:13 |
| ubotu | vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.4 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB | 01:13 |
| bimberi | !vnc | 01:13 |
| ubotu | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | Burgwork: you mean being a GPL-only fork of an old xfree86? | 01:13 |
| cliebow | heh | 01:14 |
| Burgwork | basically, yes | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | it blocks including any of the tens of thousands of lines of changes in x.org | 01:14 |
| Felix765 | cliebow: I know that ltsp does the network boot stuff for setting up the clients, doesn't it also server-side stuff to allow connections? | 01:15 |
| cliebow | not really.. | 01:16 |
| Felix765 | What I want is for multiple clients, running on windows, to be able to connect to individual sessions on the server and run firefox | 01:16 |
| cliebow | you can take a kernel and a filesystem and plunk it on any system that provides 4 essential services | 01:16 |
| Felix765 | but I'm testing at the moment with Edubuntu desktop | 01:17 |
| cliebow | cant just use windows firefox..i dont see the point | 01:17 |
| Felix765 | cliebow: There is a point believe me | 01:17 |
| cliebow | hmmm..maybe you better explain..better yet..explain on 3ltsp | 01:18 |
| Felix765 | cliebow: I want users to have access to a web based document management system without the ability to retain any temporary copies which may get downloaded to their pc's | 01:19 |
| cliebow | err. how about running cygwin on windows? | 01:19 |
| Felix765 | Haven't looked in to that | 01:19 |
| Felix765 | cygwin is not free is it | 01:20 |
| Felix765 | ? | 01:20 |
| cliebow | far as iknow it is..always used to was | 01:20 |
| Felix765 | OK. but it will require installation on 50 pc's whereas RDP for example is alreadythere and lightweight | 01:21 |
| cliebow | yep.. | 01:21 |
| cliebow | just pay the Man.. | 01:21 |
| cliebow | windows 200 server..oor 2003 | 01:22 |
| Felix765 | SO I don't need to worry about ltsp then. I just need ...? | 01:22 |
| bimberi | Felix765: There is this - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_GDM . It uses XDMCP which doesn't have a great security reputation though. | 01:22 |
| Felix765 | Thank, I'll have a look | 01:22 |
| Felix765 | cliebow: VNC can set up new seesions for users can it? I didn't know that | 01:23 |
| cliebow | you cant take over an ols session on a linux box running on :0 x11vnc is the glue for that..but it will set up a new session | 01:24 |
| cliebow | running vnc via xientd is way cool cause you get a login screen from gdm..thtat is what rmy windows compadres do here | 01:25 |
| Felix765 | that sounds interesting, can you provide any (more) pointers? | 01:26 |
| cliebow | bimberi's url is the heart of it | 01:27 |
| bimberi | there's also this: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/ | 01:27 |
| Felix765 | Ok, I'll go and read that. | 01:27 |
| cliebow | you can if you get really ored look at wiki.ltsp.org under experimentala | 01:27 |
| bimberi | (which looks good but very long winded I must say) | 01:27 |
| cliebow | for sshvnc-applet | 01:28 |
| Felix765 | Thank guys. | 01:28 |
| cliebow | good luck | 01:28 |
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| willvdl | where did my bandwidth go? | 01:31 |
| willvdl | pips1, all good? drop me a mail if you need anything | 01:35 |
| willvdl | I'll be doing the release note for the web tomorrow | 01:36 |
| pips1 | i'm fine, matt has a lot on his hands though, me thinks | 01:36 |
| willvdl | night all | 01:54 |
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| knix__ | Hello all, does anyone know how to use the Rescue Mode in edgy? | 03:20 |
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| bettsp | Hi, is there any documentation on setting up a login server for [e,x,k] Ubuntu? | 03:21 |
| Burgwork | login server? | 03:22 |
| Burgwork | ie: centralized accounts? | 03:22 |
| bettsp | Burgwork: Yeah, separate computers, separate installations, but they talk to one PC for /etc/passwd et al | 03:23 |
| Burgwork | for that you need ldap | 03:23 |
| bettsp | Not a full thin-client implementation | 03:23 |
| Burgwork | ldap, not ltsp | 03:23 |
| Burgwork | and why not use ltsp fat clients? | 03:24 |
| bettsp | Burgwork: Fat clients? | 03:24 |
| Burgwork | then you only need to setup one computer | 03:24 |
| bettsp | Burgwork: Well, none of the machines in the lab have any real power, the best we've got is like 1.4 GHz with maybe 30GB or so disk | 03:25 |
| Burgwork | however, for setting up ldap, you need to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer | 03:25 |
| Burgwork | that is fine | 03:25 |
| Burgwork | fat clients do all the computing locally | 03:25 |
| bettsp | Ok, that sounds like exactly what I want actually | 03:26 |
| bettsp | When is this spec implemented as-of? | 03:27 |
| Burgwork | 5.10, although it takes a bit of setup todo | 03:27 |
| bettsp | Burgwork: Ok, so it's not brand-new by any means | 03:28 |
| bettsp | Burgwork: This is awesome, thanks very much for your help | 03:29 |
| Burgwork | no worries | 03:31 |
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| Burgwork | we are about to launch 7.04, so the devs are pretty busy | 03:31 |
| Burgwork | the ldap stuff is pretty easy, but if you need help with it, come chat with me | 03:31 |
| Burgwork | if you need help with the ltsp stuff, ask around in here | 03:31 |
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| bettsp | Ok, cool - we're probably gonna install 7.04, it's a college open-source software lab and everyone there is pretty computer-savvy | 03:35 |
| cliebow_ | bettsp: id make servers of your clients in a heartbeat | 03:40 |
| bettsp | cliebow_: come again? | 03:48 |
| cliebow_ | heh it sounds like your clients are better machines than my servers | 03:49 |
| bettsp | cliebow_: Our clients aren't that great, the machine I described is our "good" one | 03:53 |
| bettsp | The rest are like 700Mhz Athlon, 500 MHz P2, etc | 03:53 |
| cliebow_ | ok...just teasing | 03:54 |
| cliebow_ | mine are p2 200 meg with 64 meg ram | 03:54 |
| bettsp | cliebow_: Ouch | 03:54 |
| cliebow_ | But they work great...now that i have 100 meg nics | 03:55 |
| cliebow_ | instead of isa cards | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | yes, isa cards would be a little limiting | 03:56 |
| cliebow_ | they gave me a foot in the door..god bless em | 03:56 |
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| Meshezabeel | what times are meetings? | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | the Edubuntu meetings? | 06:28 |
| bimberi | !meetings | 06:36 |
| ubotu | Edubuntu meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, alternating between 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC | 06:36 |
| bimberi | Just set that one up ;) | 06:36 |
| bimberi | @schedule | 06:39 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 19 Apr 15:00: Development Team | 21 Apr 17:00: Support Team | 24 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 25 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 26 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 26 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 06:39 |
| Meshezabeel | cool :) thanks :) | 06:41 |
| bimberi | np :) | 06:41 |
| bimberi | !meetings | 06:41 |
| ubotu | Edubuntu meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, alternating between 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC. @schedule may show when the next one will be. | 06:41 |
| Meshezabeel | dumb question, is UTC same as GMT? | 06:44 |
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| bimberi | Meshezabeel: yes | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | ok, thanks, I know I'm -600 GMT, but just wanted to make sure it was the same ;) | 06:51 |
| bimberi | Meshezabeel: you can do this... | 06:51 |
| bimberi | @schedule sydney | 06:51 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 20 Apr 01:00: Development Team | 22 Apr 03:00: Support Team | 25 Apr 06:00: Technical Board | 26 Apr 06:00: Edubuntu | 27 Apr 06:00: MOTU | 27 Apr 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 06:51 |
| bimberi | (for a major city in your timezone) | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | Schedule for Canada/Regina | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | @Schedule for Canada/Regina | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | @Schedule for regina | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | lol | 06:51 |
| bimberi | @schedule regina | 06:51 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Regina: 19 Apr 09:00: Development Team | 21 Apr 11:00: Support Team | 24 Apr 14:00: Technical Board | 25 Apr 14:00: Edubuntu | 26 Apr 14:00: MOTU | 26 Apr 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 06:51 |
| Meshezabeel | lol, I'm dense today | 06:52 |
| Meshezabeel | er always ;) | 06:52 |
| bimberi | :) | 06:52 |
| Meshezabeel | course I've been trying to wash some gasoline off of some items I purchased on ebay, I think it's affecting my cognitive abilities | 06:54 |
| bimberi | yep, that would. Especially if it's leaded. | 06:58 |
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| Bhaskar | LTSP is builtin in a edubuntu live CD? | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | no | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | I think there are technical reasons | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | size for one I think | 08:13 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, so need to add package after installation | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | hmm? | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | you said the LiveCD | 08:13 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, i mean i have install edubuntu from live CD, then LTSP installation process? | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | you could do that | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | but you are better off installing from the server disk | 08:15 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, i want to know LTSP package is not included on that CD, then i need to download LTSP package then install ya? | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:16 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, so LTSP package for Ubuntu , ya | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | yes, you can do that | 08:18 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, so i need to dl from Tarball image, ya | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | no no | 08:19 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, how ? | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | you need to install the ltsp packages from the Ubuntu repositry | 08:20 |
| Bhaskar | LaserJock, sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | sounds about right | 08:20 |
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| Bhaskar | Laser_away, it takes a lots time coz low bandwidth, i suggest LTSP package should be integrated on CD/DVD as K12ltsp integrated in Fedora core | 08:22 |
| Bhaskar | Laser_away, for edubuntu, ya | 08:23 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: it's on the Edubuntu Server CD | 08:24 |
| Bhaskar | ogra, hi | 08:24 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, in edubuntu server CD, ltsp is built in? | 08:24 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: yes | 08:25 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, in which ver.? | 08:25 |
| ajmitch | hey bimberi | 08:25 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: feisty. In Edgy it's called the 'install cd' | 08:26 |
| bimberi | http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ | 08:26 |
| bimberi | hi ajmitch :) | 08:26 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, so edubuntu-6.10-live-i386.iso contains LTSP | 08:31 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: no | 08:31 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, so for Server CD image? | 08:32 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: edubuntu-6.06.1-install-i386.iso has a text mode installer that will install the ltsp server | 08:32 |
| Bhaskar | ok | 08:32 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, feisty-dvd-i386.iso contains ltsp server or not? | 08:39 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: yes it dows | 08:41 |
| bimberi | *does | 08:41 |
| Bhaskar | bimberi, it is LIve CD as well as installation CD, having edubuntu+LTSP server, ya | 08:42 |
| bimberi | Bhaskar: yes I'm fairly sure the DVDs are 'live'. I've never used one though | 08:44 |
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| Bhaskar | bimberi, this is realeased today | 08:44 |
| Bhaskar | ogra, hello | 08:45 |
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| juliux | good morning | 09:08 |
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| RichEd | hi juliux | 09:31 |
| juliux | RichEd, i will support the edubuntu install iso today via my rootserver | 09:31 |
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| RichEd | thanks ... wow sounds like a decent chunk | 09:32 |
| RichEd | do you know if there is a release notes page on the wiki for feisty ? | 09:32 |
| RichEd | I'm wrapping up the announcement mail now | 09:32 |
| juliux | a friend has a rootserver with a traffic flat;) | 09:32 |
| RichEd | sweet | 09:32 |
| juliux | hm i have no idea about the wiki | 09:34 |
| RichEd | thanks | 09:37 |
| juliux | RichEd, did you have a time for the release? | 09:38 |
| RichEd | approx 2 hours from now | 09:38 |
| juliux | thxs | 09:39 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: where's edubuntugirl when I need her ? | 09:45 |
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| pips1 | moin | 09:47 |
| juliux | RichEd, edubuntugirl is installing feisty at the moment;) | 09:48 |
| RichEd | ah ... RichEd likes feisty girls | 09:48 |
| SiCk | morning everyone | 09:48 |
| juliux | hi SiCk | 09:49 |
| SiCk | anyone know much about nfs file systems etc? | 10:10 |
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| SiCk | yarr | 10:10 |
| SiCk | ogra would be the main man. he made me do it. :P | 10:10 |
| juliux | SiCk, i use nfs but i don't realy know about the options | 10:11 |
| SiCk | eep, gotta run .. back in 20 ! | 10:14 |
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| RichEd | ping ogra | 10:51 |
| juliux | hin highvoltage | 10:55 |
| ogra | morning | 10:56 |
| ogra | http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp | 10:57 |
| juliux | morning ogra | 10:57 |
| ogra | michael dell runs ubuntu .... and has automatix installed :( | 10:57 |
| juliux | args automatix | 10:57 |
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| juliux | hi willvdl | 11:14 |
| willvdl | hi there | 11:14 |
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| SiCk | morning ogra | 11:15 |
| RichEd | pips1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/7.04Tour <- yes, you can include this on the getting started page ... just make a note that edubuntu will look a little different due to the theming, but the features are available in both | 11:19 |
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| pips1 | ok | 11:26 |
| willvdl | hey pips1 , looking at GettingStarted? | 11:27 |
| pips1 | yes | 11:27 |
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| pips1 | I'll just add a very short paragraph at the top, saying that the page is mainly only relevant to 6.06 LTS, and that in Feisty, more steps are taken care of automatically | 11:29 |
| pips1 | juliux: that prompted me to check out #ubuntu | 11:30 |
| juliux | pips1, hehe | 11:30 |
| SiCk | hey , juliux, about that nfs jobbie... i have /etc/exports set to rw , etc and nfs is restarted, yet on my client i'm getting ' read-only filesystem ' | 11:30 |
| SiCk | when i try and run anything really | 11:30 |
| SiCk | llike it wont mount to the server for some reason :| | 11:31 |
| juliux | did you restarted nfs-common or nfs-kernel-server via init.d? | 11:31 |
| SiCk | yep, both! | 11:31 |
| juliux | and you have write permissions on the path on the server? | 11:32 |
| SiCk | and ltsp-client-setup rw_dirs has been commented out | 11:32 |
| SiCk | um, should do! | 11:32 |
| SiCk | i think :s | 11:32 |
| SiCk | er, copy_dirs even, not rw_dirs | 11:32 |
| SiCk | the other copydirs that is in the file is copy_dirs="$copy_dirs /etc/X11 /var/lib/x11" | 11:33 |
| SiCk | so those should be accessible by the client you're saying? | 11:33 |
| ogra | SiCk, you only want to write to /home/kiosk ... so make sure to get that writeable ;) | 11:34 |
| SiCk | right, there's that sorted | 11:35 |
| SiCk | i think... | 11:35 |
| SiCk | i was just wondering ogra, in ltsp-client-setup, i have 3 instances of copy_dirs , should they all be commented? or should it be okay? | 11:36 |
| ogra | only the one that refers to /home | 11:37 |
| SiCk | good good | 11:37 |
| ogra | make sure /home/kiosk is really owned by kiosk and that its rw for the user | 11:37 |
| SiCk | there's no way of doing that from the server no? do that on the client? | 11:38 |
| SiCk | since kiosk is only a user on the client chroot | 11:38 |
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| ogra | you can do it with the chroot command as well as directly on the client if your nfs export is readwrite... | 11:40 |
| SiCk | 775 should be a sufficient chmod yes? | 11:47 |
| SiCk | i've chown'd it | 11:47 |
| willvdl | pips1, working on the announcement | 11:50 |
| willvdl | won't "publish", only "submit" | 11:51 |
| pips1 | ok | 11:52 |
| pips1 | once it's ready to be published, we can add it to the 'news' sidebar | 11:52 |
| willvdl | sweet. | 11:53 |
| willvdl | going a little slower since I'm real-time checking for consistency with mail announcement | 11:53 |
| SiCk | ogra, it's still moaning that i'm in a read only filesystem. :( | 11:57 |
| SiCk | i dont get it. all the settings are set, all permissions have been given... | 11:59 |
| SiCk | /home/kiosk has the owner of kiosk and chmod 775 ... | 11:59 |
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| ogra | pastebin your /etc/exports file | 12:02 |
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| SiCk | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16372/ | 12:05 |
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| pips1 | nixternal: ping | 12:09 |
| SiCk | ogra, see any problems with it? looks pretty normal to me :/ | 12:32 |
| ogra | you could try adding insecure to the options | 12:34 |
| ogra | (dont leave that there indeed ;)) | 12:34 |
| SiCk | so, *(rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async) ? | 12:35 |
| ogra | yep | 12:36 |
| SiCk | well ill give it a go, ill try anything at the mo. haha | 12:36 |
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| SiCk | the wall isnt read only | 12:42 |
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| ogra | whee, have you seen #ubuntu ? 1440 people in there | 01:44 |
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| cbx33 | hehe | 01:46 |
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| pips1 | :) | 01:57 |
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| faffelaf | hi..... cant find the mirrorlist on edubuntu.org.... where did it go? Something worng with the isos? | 02:33 |
| ogra | it gets updated ... | 02:34 |
| ogra | as soon as the release is out the list should be there | 02:34 |
| ogra | pips1, right ? | 02:34 |
| faffelaf | I already downloaded the i386 7.04, but the burning crashes in the finalizing stage...... | 02:35 |
| nixternal | pips1: pong? | 02:35 |
| pips1 | ogra: yes, it will be | 02:36 |
| pips1 | nixternal: hi | 02:36 |
| nixternal | hi pips1 | 02:36 |
| faffelaf | So.. the final is not out yet? | 02:36 |
| pips1 | nixternal: I was wondering about the Edubuntu Handbook on help.ubuntu.com ? do you know when it will be available? | 02:36 |
| faffelaf | wonder what I dl then? | 02:37 |
| nixternal | this week hopefully | 02:37 |
| nixternal | there should be a 7.04 tab shortly I would think | 02:37 |
| ogra | faffelaf, its out if the announcement is out ... which will happen if all issues like mirror updates are solved | 02:37 |
| faffelaf | Its not mirrored yet? | 02:37 |
| faffelaf | thx | 02:38 |
| faffelaf | bad timing.. I need to put up a server on a school today.... Guess I will have to spend my weekend there then... :) | 02:38 |
| ogra | its unlikely that the iso will change or something :) | 02:39 |
| faffelaf | My iso, on the i386 server install cd, is 692,7 MB (726327296 bytes)......... if anyone have the iso lying around, can you plz check the size for me... plz | 02:40 |
| faffelaf | ups... just saw the error, its not complete | 02:41 |
| ogra | did you check the md5sum ? | 02:41 |
| ogra | http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/7.04/MD5SUMS | 02:41 |
| faffelaf | nice.. thx.. the chucksum matches | 02:43 |
| faffelaf | so it must be a-ok | 02:43 |
| ogra | then i'd guess you have bad media | 02:44 |
| ogra | is it a 700MB one ? | 02:44 |
| faffelaf | tried 2 burns..... both failed... could be my drive... I will try on another burner. | 02:44 |
| faffelaf | how much does it need for the finalizing....? isn't it something like 50 mb? | 02:45 |
| ogra | dont burn to fast as well ... :) (even though that shouldnt influence finalization) | 02:45 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 02:45 |
| faffelaf | I burn max. 20x | 02:45 |
| ogra | try 8x | 02:45 |
| faffelaf | the cd's are 40x or so | 02:45 |
| faffelaf | i will.... I have a webcd burner in the serverroom, will try that. | 02:46 |
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| faffelaf | It's now burning on a 700MB CD (different brand) 8x, on the server. 70% more to go... wish me luck. :) | 02:52 |
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| knix_ | How many hours left? | 02:58 |
| faffelaf | Well, I was fortunate to grap the isos (i386) on a server in norway... ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/edubuntu/feisty/ ... it's full now i'm affraid. | 03:00 |
| faffelaf | YES... burn completed... at speed 8 in real TAO mode for single session. burned more than 2000 CD's on that burner (lite-on) never failed... Will try the add-on CD now. | 03:03 |
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| faffelaf | Ogra & the rest, thank you for your help, everything is good so far.. lets see how it installs on my HP - X2 XEON server, with SAS disks, in RAID 1. Until then.. bye | 03:11 |
| ogra | feel fre to come back any time :) | 03:11 |
| ogra | *free | 03:11 |
| faffelaf | I will.. thx | 03:12 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:29 |
| ogra | sbalneav, hey | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | Heya ogra! | 03:30 |
| ogra | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices | 03:30 |
| ogra | ;) | 03:30 |
| ogra | and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ldm-improvements | 03:30 |
| ogra | while you will attac the communcation side of things in ltspfs i'll catch on the desktop side this time ;) | 03:32 |
| ogra | *attack | 03:32 |
| pips1 | hey sbalneav | 03:32 |
| sbalneav | hey hey | 03:33 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | edgy (6.10) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes | feisty is released ! | ||
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| SiCk | is it a bad idea to have copy_dirs as just / | 04:32 |
| ogra | if you have the time to wait until your whole system got copied into memory ... | 04:32 |
| SiCk | i'm going for all out war on the client after a break for a couple. | 04:32 |
| ogra | and if you have the ram (500M>) | 04:33 |
| SiCk | ah.. balls. | 04:33 |
| SiCk | not on this server no... | 04:33 |
| ogra | but it wont gain you anything, you know that ... | 04:33 |
| SiCk | the one with 16gb of ram is upstairs :( | 04:33 |
| ogra | adding stuff to copy dirs puts it in ram | 04:33 |
| SiCk | ah right | 04:33 |
| ogra | that means changes are lost on shutdown ... | 04:33 |
| ogra | you want the opposite | 04:33 |
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| SiCk | i dont want it copying /home in | 04:34 |
| SiCk | so that it uses the one from the server | 04:34 |
| SiCk | or.. lets it write to the one on the server... now im understanding | 04:34 |
| SiCk | it hates me as soon as i apply the comment on that line though | 04:35 |
| SiCk | ' read only filesystem ' | 04:35 |
| SiCk | i thought it was the other way round there | 04:36 |
| RichEd | sbalneav: did you get the announcement ? | 04:37 |
| RichEd | (hi) | 04:38 |
| pips1 | hehe | 04:38 |
| ogra | go www.edubuntu.org, go ... | 04:39 |
| pips1 | I got the announcements on both -devel and -users | 04:39 |
| ogra | yay, now it loads | 04:39 |
| pips1 | whoa the site is crunching | 04:40 |
| ogra | shouldnt we have something on the startpage ... | 04:40 |
| ogra | like a banner or so | 04:40 |
| RichEd | pips1: was looking for an independent opinion ... you're involved :) | 04:40 |
| RichEd | ther is the news announcement in the sidebar for all pages ... we can add a short news paragraph ? | 04:41 |
| ogra | yeah, its a bit hidden imho | 04:41 |
| RichEd | pips1: ?? how easy / difficult is it to add a leader paragraph for a few days ? | 04:41 |
| pips1 | on difficult, lemme see | 04:41 |
| pips1 | *not | 04:41 |
| ogra | welll, its still way more beautioful than ubuntu atm ... | 04:41 |
| pips1 | hehe | 04:41 |
| RichEd | pips1: shall I do a paragreph ? | 04:41 |
| SiCk | ogra, if i add a line in /etc/exports, say... /opt/ltsp/i386/home *(rw,no_root_squash,async) | 04:43 |
| SiCk | would that make a difference | 04:43 |
| ogra | no | 04:43 |
| SiCk | or even direct to the kiosk folder | 04:43 |
| SiCk | guessing im thinking in the wrong place then | 04:43 |
| ogra | the settings apply to all subfolders ... | 04:43 |
| ogra | if you set /opt/ltsp to it everything underneath has the same | 04:44 |
| SiCk | ah, right, i understand | 04:44 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: congrats!! | 04:47 |
| ogra | LaserJock, same to you ! | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | well, I didn't manage to do much :/ | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | but I tried anyway :-) | 04:48 |
| ogra | you bropught us the handbook :) | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | well, it was a community effort | 04:50 |
| === LaserJock hugs #edubuntu | ||
| === RichEd applauds ogra, cbx33, LaserJock, pips1, highvoltage, nixternal and the rest of the gang | ||
| === ogra applauds RichEd ... where would we be without such good leadership ... thanks ! | ||
| pips1 | the handbook is great, congrats | 04:52 |
| RichEd | thanks to all of you and all of us | 04:52 |
| ogra | :) | 04:52 |
| RichEd | and another victory for the free world against capitalism | 04:52 |
| RichEd | :) | 04:52 |
| pips1 | pfft | 04:52 |
| ogra | *g* | 04:52 |
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| nixternal | rock on! Congrats everyone! Great job on all of the hard work (LaserJock did all of my work though) :) | 04:53 |
| RichEd | *graffiti | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | ogra: is there a mandatory holiday now? | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 04:53 |
| ogra | well, the archive is locked ... but there are many specs to be prepared | 04:54 |
| SimonAnibal | WooHoo!, grabbing from the local University's mirror (ussg.indiana.edu) is netting me upwards of 500 kb/s | 04:54 |
| ogra | nice ! | 04:54 |
| RichEd | SimonAnibal: w00t | 04:54 |
| SimonAnibal | awwwwwww, it's slowing down | 04:54 |
| SimonAnibal | Maybe I told too many people ;-) | 04:54 |
| pips1 | RichEd: hehe | 04:54 |
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| SimonAnibal | Oh, no, it's going back up! | 04:55 |
| SimonAnibal | 800, amazing! | 04:55 |
| SimonAnibal | At this rate I'll have it in about 20 minutes, maybe I should go to lunch... | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | I'm glad I have a local feisty mirror ;-) | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | SimonAnibal: you from indiana? | 04:55 |
| SimonAnibal | LaserJock: Yeap, Bloomington this week; Fort Wayne next | 04:56 |
| SimonAnibal | Wow, it hit 1 MB/sec there for a bit...I need these speeds at home! | 04:56 |
| SimonAnibal | Hey, is ntfs-3g on Feisty? | 04:57 |
| ogra | ogra@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache search ntfs-3g | 04:57 |
| ogra | libntfs-3g-dev - ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace (FUSE) library headers | 04:57 |
| ogra | libntfs-3g0 - ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace (FUSE) library | 04:57 |
| ogra | ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE | 04:57 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: please don't aplaud me for this release, I totally don't deserve it | 04:58 |
| SimonAnibal | neat, installed by default? | 04:58 |
| === highvoltage appluads everyone else in that list though | ||
| highvoltage | (and will add willvdl and sbalneavs) | 04:58 |
| ogra | SimonAnibal, universe | 04:58 |
| SimonAnibal | Well, that's better than not; definitely | 04:59 |
| knix_ | If I had the beta installed, is there anything special to do to update it othere that apt-get upgrade? | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | I don't think so | 05:00 |
| knix_ | kewl | 05:00 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: you are always around and concistent ... that is a help in itself for keeping the community together | 05:01 |
| RichEd | *consistent | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | holy cow, my debian-tex svn checkout ended up at 22GB | 05:02 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: :) | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: agreed | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | we do need more workers, but cheerleaders are also good | 05:07 |
| SiCk | ogra, i think that im a wee bit closer | 05:07 |
| SiCk | it's talking about ' user ' 's $HOME directory not having permissions | 05:08 |
| === RichEd tries not to imagine highvoltage in a cheerleader costume | ||
| SiCk | and that user only exists on the server | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: even worse, imagine both highvoltage and I in a cheerleader costume | 05:09 |
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| LaserJock | yeah | 05:09 |
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| SimonAnibal | Yay! Done! | 05:12 |
| SimonAnibal | 17:42 | 05:12 |
| SimonAnibal | That's an average of 659 kb/sec | 05:14 |
| SimonAnibal | Boy, those speeds would be nice at home | 05:14 |
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| pips1 | RichEd: reload www.edubuntu.org ... how is that for the banner? | 05:16 |
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| RichEd | looking | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | well done all!!!! | 05:17 |
| === cbx33 guesses ogra is off sleeping | ||
| === pips1 hugs cbx33 | ||
| cbx33 | hey RichEd | 05:17 |
| RichEd | pips1: waiting ... we lost the london office on #canonical ... data centre may be iffy | 05:17 |
| cbx33 | ouch | 05:18 |
| cbx33 | DoS? | 05:18 |
| pips1 | oops | 05:18 |
| === cbx33 got his iso this morning | ||
| cbx33 | ;) | 05:18 |
| juliux | pips1, take a look at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ | 05:22 |
| === pips1 looks | ||
| cbx33 | wow | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | when was it relased? | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | how long ago? | 05:23 |
| juliux | cbx33, perhpas 30min | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | NO way! | 05:23 |
| juliux | cbx33, they reset the counter | 05:23 |
| pips1 | wow | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | really? | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: like 2 days ago, where were you? ;-) | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, whahaa? | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | what are you doing here | 05:23 |
| juliux | cbx33, refresh the site and you can see how the traffic grows | 05:24 |
| cbx33 | That's insane | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: me? I'm partying! | 05:24 |
| cbx33 | hehehe | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | wahooooooo! | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 05:24 |
| === cbx33 has not much to party about | ||
| cbx33 | :( | 05:24 |
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| cbx33 | i missed a lot recently | 05:24 |
| cbx33 | sorry guys | 05:24 |
| juliux | pls party in #ubuntu-release-party;) | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: well, I never said I was partying because I did so much ;-) | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Heya | 05:27 |
| RichEd | pips1: header looks good ... thanks | 05:29 |
| pips1 | ok | 05:29 |
| === pips1 is watching the hits on the site | ||
| RichEd | pips1: and ? going up dramatically or not / | 05:30 |
| pips1 | steadily climbing | 05:30 |
| pips1 | but we are getting much less referrals from ubuntu.com, because the basic front page doesn't include the link to us... | 05:31 |
| juliux | out for examen | 05:31 |
| RichEd | pips1: the people who know us will find us | 05:31 |
| pips1 | juliux: all the best | 05:31 |
| juliux | thxs pips1 | 05:31 |
| RichEd | i've asked newz2000 for more prominence on ubuntu.com ... we'll work on it | 05:32 |
| RichEd | juliux: from me too | 05:32 |
| cbx33 | why did they change the front page? | 05:33 |
| cbx33 | to facilitate maximum downloads? | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | dude | 05:33 |
| RichEd | cbx33: server load and ease of download ... most people visiting today want a download | 05:33 |
| LaserJock | you should have seen the forums last night | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | torrent site seems down | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | yeh? | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | they were installing automatic refresher programs | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | seems i missed out on all th fun | 05:34 |
| RichEd | #ubuntu has like 1500 people in it | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | WOW | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | we ROCK | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | there were seriously 50+ pages on the forums in less than3 hrs | 05:34 |
| RichEd | 1529 and climbing | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | all, "I don't see it! I don't see it! Where is it?!?!?!" | 05:35 |
| pips1 | hehe | 05:35 |
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| pips1 | it's so nice and quiet here | 05:36 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 05:36 |
| SiCk | is not! | 05:36 |
| === cbx33 doesn't even wanna visit the other channels | ||
| cbx33 | compared to others it is | 05:36 |
| === cbx33 wonders if planet is just FEISTY IS RELEASED | ||
| LaserJock | well | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | tomorrow you guys will get some visitors | 05:37 |
| cbx33 | eh? | 05:38 |
| cbx33 | planet is down | 05:38 |
| cbx33 | guess it's not a priority now ;) | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | I'd love to visit Canonical Data Centre ;) | 05:39 |
| pips1 | yeah, I was thinking the same | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | seeing all those blinkin lights | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | showing how damn popular Ubuntu is | 05:40 |
| pips1 | arg, I'm getting all those 404 in the logs, because distrowatch has a wrong link on their site | 05:41 |
| RichEd | pips1: what is their link ? | 05:41 |
| RichEd | and can you mail a correction to them ? | 05:42 |
| pips1 | yeah, I should | 05:42 |
| pips1 | it's on this page http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=edubuntu | 05:42 |
| pips1 | Download Mirrors http://www.edubuntu.org/PreviewReleaseFeedback/ | 05:42 |
| pips1 | I don't know where the heck they got that url from | 05:43 |
| pips1 | http://shots.linuxquestions.org/index.php?os=edubuntu | 05:55 |
| pips1 | "High volume due to today's release of Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" (+ Slashdot) is causing temporary service problems." | 05:55 |
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| MrWizard14 | how do you run ssh on edubuntu? | 06:02 |
| pips1 | MrWizard14: do you mean a ssh server? | 06:04 |
| pips1 | from where to where do you want to connect? | 06:04 |
| MrWizard14 | edubuntu to Mac OS X | 06:05 |
| MrWizard14 | it's set up | 06:05 |
| pips1 | ssh is available by default | 06:05 |
| MrWizard14 | what command is it? | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | ssh | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 06:05 |
| MrWizard14 | so shh Username@ip | 06:05 |
| MrWizard14 | ? | 06:05 |
| pips1 | yes | 06:06 |
| pips1 | try "man ssh" | 06:06 |
| pips1 | for a manual of ssh on the command line | 06:06 |
| pips1 | press "q" to quit the manual | 06:06 |
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| sacater | highvoltage: hi | 06:26 |
| sacater | highvoltage: im back from school and haircut | 06:27 |
| sacater | highvoltage: *poke* | 06:28 |
| sacater | :o | 06:28 |
| highvoltage | sacater: ouch! don't poke so hard! | 06:29 |
| highvoltage | that's pygi's job :) | 06:29 |
| sacater | okies | 06:29 |
| sacater | go on gizmo | 06:29 |
| highvoltage | sacater: just joking :) | 06:29 |
| sacater | ive fixed my end | 06:29 |
| highvoltage | I'll have to try gizmo again a bit later, I'm still at work and will leave in about a minute or so | 06:30 |
| highvoltage | catch you again later... | 06:30 |
| sacater | ok ill be back later | 06:30 |
| pips1 | see you all! | 06:48 |
| sacater | highvoltage: im back | 06:52 |
| sacater | highvoltage: im bacl | 06:56 |
| sacater | back | 06:56 |
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| slyfox | Can someone help me with how to limit time for linux users? Say I want a specific user to auto log of at 10pm on weekdays ? | 07:14 |
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| Dlozo | hey all | 07:23 |
| slyfox | Can someone help me with how to limit time for linux users? Say I want a specific user to auto log of at 10pm on weekdays ? | 07:27 |
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| sacater | !repeat slyfox | 07:37 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat slyfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 07:37 |
| sacater | slyfox: that can be done, but wait for an answer | 07:37 |
| sacater | dont say 12 minutes apart | 07:37 |
| slyfox | sorry | 07:37 |
| sacater | people do read channel y'know | 07:37 |
| slyfox | timeoutd should do what I need, but it is not working, so I also need to isntall timeout in order for timeoutd to work ? | 07:38 |
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| sacater | no idea | 08:06 |
| sacater | perhaps | 08:06 |
| sacater | highvoltage: art thou back home yet? | 08:06 |
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| sacater | highvoltage: still not home : | 09:46 |
| sacater | :o | 09:46 |
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| sacater | highvoltage: aw come on | 10:53 |
| sacater | you must be back by now | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | he's probably asleep | 10:54 |
| sacater | maybe | 10:55 |
| sacater | hasnt been on all day :| | 10:55 |
| LaserJock | well, he's a busy guy | 10:58 |
| sacater | yep | 10:59 |
| sacater | bit like me | 10:59 |
| sacater | i live off liquid caffeine though | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | well, he's running a company so he doesn't always have time for IRC | 11:03 |
| juliux | LaserJock, highvoltage was online this morning | 11:07 |
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