=== Felix765 [n=felix@88-109-174-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:48] hi, I'd like some help with ltsp [12:49] I think i've got it installed OK. But I cannot connect from a (thick) client using Terminal Server Client [12:50] I'm using Feisty [12:51] Felix765 terminal server client?? [12:52] has naught to do with ltsp [12:52] you do meana windows terminal server client? [12:53] No, the Termianl server client in edubuntu desktop === pips1 [n=sysadmin@212.145.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [01:05] Hi pips1 [01:05] hi [01:05] Do you happen to know anything about ltsp? [01:06] a little :) [01:07] eeek! a clone! [01:07] hehe [01:07] I'm new to it. Running edubuntu server and trying to connect from edubuntu desktop, but get 'connection refused' [01:08] Felix765, how are you trying to connect? [01:08] I'm using the Terminal Server Client in ed. desktop [01:08] Should I use RDP setting or VLC etc? [01:09] How can I tell if ltsp is even running on the server? Is there a process I can grep for? [01:09] I don't want to use thin client, just client app running on thick client. [01:10] Felix765: I would like to help you, but I'm busy preparing some text for the release tomorrow. [01:10] can you come back at another time? [01:10] Sure [01:10] sorry :) [01:10] Felix765, ltsp is all about thin client..but there are numeroous ways to get a desktop on a linux server [01:11] Felix765: Just install a vncserver on the server and connect to that. [01:11] nx is way cool...vnc is..well.challenged [01:11] an sshvnc-applet works [01:11] cliebow: nx has serious licensing issues [01:11] well, vnc is ok on a LAN ;) [01:11] ohh??freenx? [01:12] Doesn't vnc take over an existing running desktop, whereas terminal server method logs in to new session? [01:12] cliebow: well, freenx is nice but the nx people are not playing nice with the X people [01:12] Felix765: no, that's vino [01:12] bimberi: vino? [01:12] Felix765: you can set up separate sessions using vnc [01:12] ltsp is about thin-client..d/l a kernel..mount aan nfs chroot [01:12] !vino-server [01:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about vino-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:12] urgh [01:13] Burgwork, i am sorry to hear thatr.. [01:13] !info vino [01:13] vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.4 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB [01:13] !vnc [01:13] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [01:13] Burgwork: you mean being a GPL-only fork of an old xfree86? [01:14] heh [01:14] basically, yes [01:14] it blocks including any of the tens of thousands of lines of changes in x.org [01:15] cliebow: I know that ltsp does the network boot stuff for setting up the clients, doesn't it also server-side stuff to allow connections? [01:16] not really.. [01:16] What I want is for multiple clients, running on windows, to be able to connect to individual sessions on the server and run firefox [01:16] you can take a kernel and a filesystem and plunk it on any system that provides 4 essential services [01:17] but I'm testing at the moment with Edubuntu desktop [01:17] cant just use windows firefox..i dont see the point [01:17] cliebow: There is a point believe me [01:18] hmmm..maybe you better explain..better yet..explain on 3ltsp [01:19] cliebow: I want users to have access to a web based document management system without the ability to retain any temporary copies which may get downloaded to their pc's [01:19] err. how about running cygwin on windows? [01:19] Haven't looked in to that [01:20] cygwin is not free is it [01:20] ? [01:20] far as iknow it is..always used to was [01:21] OK. but it will require installation on 50 pc's whereas RDP for example is alreadythere and lightweight [01:21] yep.. [01:21] just pay the Man.. [01:22] windows 200 server..oor 2003 [01:22] SO I don't need to worry about ltsp then. I just need ...? [01:22] Felix765: There is this - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_GDM . It uses XDMCP which doesn't have a great security reputation though. [01:22] Thank, I'll have a look [01:23] cliebow: VNC can set up new seesions for users can it? I didn't know that [01:24] you cant take over an ols session on a linux box running on :0 x11vnc is the glue for that..but it will set up a new session [01:25] running vnc via xientd is way cool cause you get a login screen from gdm..thtat is what rmy windows compadres do here [01:26] that sounds interesting, can you provide any (more) pointers? [01:27] bimberi's url is the heart of it [01:27] there's also this: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/ [01:27] Ok, I'll go and read that. [01:27] you can if you get really ored look at wiki.ltsp.org under experimentala [01:27] (which looks good but very long winded I must say) [01:28] for sshvnc-applet [01:28] Thank guys. [01:28] good luck === Felix765 [n=felix@88-109-174-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #edubuntu [] [01:31] where did my bandwidth go? [01:35] pips1, all good? drop me a mail if you need anything [01:36] I'll be doing the release note for the web tomorrow [01:36] i'm fine, matt has a lot on his hands though, me thinks [01:54] night all === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] === caravena [n=caravena@125-161-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === knix__ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === knix__ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === knix__ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === knix__ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:20] Hello all, does anyone know how to use the Rescue Mode in edgy? === bettsp [n=paul@ppp-69-218-235-62.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:21] Hi, is there any documentation on setting up a login server for [e,x,k] Ubuntu? [03:22] login server? [03:22] ie: centralized accounts? [03:23] Burgwork: Yeah, separate computers, separate installations, but they talk to one PC for /etc/passwd et al [03:23] for that you need ldap [03:23] Not a full thin-client implementation [03:23] ldap, not ltsp [03:24] and why not use ltsp fat clients? [03:24] Burgwork: Fat clients? [03:24] then you only need to setup one computer [03:25] Burgwork: Well, none of the machines in the lab have any real power, the best we've got is like 1.4 GHz with maybe 30GB or so disk [03:25] however, for setting up ldap, you need to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer [03:25] that is fine [03:25] fat clients do all the computing locally [03:26] Ok, that sounds like exactly what I want actually [03:27] When is this spec implemented as-of? [03:27] 5.10, although it takes a bit of setup todo [03:28] Burgwork: Ok, so it's not brand-new by any means [03:29] Burgwork: This is awesome, thanks very much for your help [03:31] no worries === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD55B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:31] we are about to launch 7.04, so the devs are pretty busy [03:31] the ldap stuff is pretty easy, but if you need help with it, come chat with me [03:31] if you need help with the ltsp stuff, ask around in here === ogra_ is now known as ogra === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [03:35] Ok, cool - we're probably gonna install 7.04, it's a college open-source software lab and everyone there is pretty computer-savvy [03:40] bettsp: id make servers of your clients in a heartbeat [03:48] cliebow_: come again? [03:49] heh it sounds like your clients are better machines than my servers [03:53] cliebow_: Our clients aren't that great, the machine I described is our "good" one [03:53] The rest are like 700Mhz Athlon, 500 MHz P2, etc [03:54] ok...just teasing [03:54] mine are p2 200 meg with 64 meg ram [03:54] cliebow_: Ouch [03:55] But they work great...now that i have 100 meg nics [03:55] instead of isa cards [03:56] yes, isa cards would be a little limiting [03:56] they gave me a foot in the door..god bless em === sbalneav__ [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === Bhaskar1 [n=Bhaskar1@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-231-28.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [06:25] what times are meetings? [06:28] the Edubuntu meetings? [06:36] !meetings [06:36] Edubuntu meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, alternating between 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC [06:36] Just set that one up ;) [06:39] @schedule [06:39] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 19 Apr 15:00: Development Team | 21 Apr 17:00: Support Team | 24 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 25 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 26 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 26 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team [06:41] cool :) thanks :) [06:41] np :) [06:41] !meetings [06:41] Edubuntu meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, alternating between 12:00 UTC and 20:00 UTC. @schedule may show when the next one will be. [06:44] dumb question, is UTC same as GMT? === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-20-82-64-2-217.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:51] Meshezabeel: yes [06:51] ok, thanks, I know I'm -600 GMT, but just wanted to make sure it was the same ;) [06:51] Meshezabeel: you can do this... [06:51] @schedule sydney [06:51] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 20 Apr 01:00: Development Team | 22 Apr 03:00: Support Team | 25 Apr 06:00: Technical Board | 26 Apr 06:00: Edubuntu | 27 Apr 06:00: MOTU | 27 Apr 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team [06:51] (for a major city in your timezone) [06:51] Schedule for Canada/Regina [06:51] @Schedule for Canada/Regina [06:51] @Schedule for regina [06:51] lol [06:51] @schedule regina [06:51] Schedule for America/Regina: 19 Apr 09:00: Development Team | 21 Apr 11:00: Support Team | 24 Apr 14:00: Technical Board | 25 Apr 14:00: Edubuntu | 26 Apr 14:00: MOTU | 26 Apr 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team [06:52] lol, I'm dense today [06:52] er always ;) [06:52] :) [06:54] course I've been trying to wash some gasoline off of some items I purchased on ebay, I think it's affecting my cognitive abilities [06:58] yep, that would. Especially if it's leaded. === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-231-28.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu [08:12] LTSP is builtin in a edubuntu live CD? [08:12] no [08:13] I think there are technical reasons [08:13] size for one I think [08:13] LaserJock, so need to add package after installation [08:13] hmm? [08:13] you said the LiveCD [08:15] LaserJock, i mean i have install edubuntu from live CD, then LTSP installation process? [08:15] you could do that [08:15] but you are better off installing from the server disk [08:16] LaserJock, i want to know LTSP package is not included on that CD, then i need to download LTSP package then install ya? [08:16] yeah [08:17] LaserJock, so LTSP package for Ubuntu , ya [08:18] yes, you can do that [08:19] LaserJock, so i need to dl from Tarball image, ya [08:19] no no [08:20] LaserJock, how ? [08:20] you need to install the ltsp packages from the Ubuntu repositry [08:20] LaserJock, sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server [08:20] sounds about right === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [08:22] Laser_away, it takes a lots time coz low bandwidth, i suggest LTSP package should be integrated on CD/DVD as K12ltsp integrated in Fedora core [08:23] Laser_away, for edubuntu, ya [08:24] Bhaskar: it's on the Edubuntu Server CD [08:24] ogra, hi [08:24] bimberi, in edubuntu server CD, ltsp is built in? [08:25] Bhaskar: yes [08:25] bimberi, in which ver.? [08:25] hey bimberi [08:26] Bhaskar: feisty. In Edgy it's called the 'install cd' [08:26] http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ [08:26] hi ajmitch :) [08:31] bimberi, so edubuntu-6.10-live-i386.iso contains LTSP [08:31] Bhaskar: no [08:32] bimberi, so for Server CD image? [08:32] Bhaskar: edubuntu-6.06.1-install-i386.iso has a text mode installer that will install the ltsp server [08:32] ok [08:39] bimberi, feisty-dvd-i386.iso contains ltsp server or not? [08:41] Bhaskar: yes it dows [08:41] *does [08:42] bimberi, it is LIve CD as well as installation CD, having edubuntu+LTSP server, ya [08:44] Bhaskar: yes I'm fairly sure the DVDs are 'live'. I've never used one though === bimberi has to go and cycle home. bbl [08:44] bimberi, this is realeased today [08:45] ogra, hello === OleA [n=OleA@195.204.34.250] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Bhaskar1 [n=Bhaskar1@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-240-5-211.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [09:08] good morning === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] hi juliux [09:31] RichEd, i will support the edubuntu install iso today via my rootserver === juliux has 900gb traffic left for this month [09:32] thanks ... wow sounds like a decent chunk [09:32] do you know if there is a release notes page on the wiki for feisty ? [09:32] I'm wrapping up the announcement mail now [09:32] a friend has a rootserver with a traffic flat;) [09:32] sweet [09:34] hm i have no idea about the wiki [09:37] thanks [09:38] RichEd, did you have a time for the release? [09:38] approx 2 hours from now [09:39] thxs [09:45] highvoltage: where's edubuntugirl when I need her ? === SiCk [i=wakeupha@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust190.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@244.140.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [09:47] moin [09:48] RichEd, edubuntugirl is installing feisty at the moment;) [09:48] ah ... RichEd likes feisty girls [09:48] morning everyone [09:49] hi SiCk [10:10] anyone know much about nfs file systems etc? === juliux not [10:10] yarr [10:10] ogra would be the main man. he made me do it. :P [10:11] SiCk, i use nfs but i don't realy know about the options [10:14] eep, gotta run .. back in 20 ! === sc0tt [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [10:51] ping ogra [10:55] hin highvoltage [10:56] morning [10:57] http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp [10:57] morning ogra [10:57] michael dell runs ubuntu .... and has automatix installed :( [10:57] args automatix === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:14] hi willvdl [11:14] hi there === jean_ [n=jean@lns-bzn-59-82-252-174-130.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:15] morning ogra [11:19] pips1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/7.04Tour <- yes, you can include this on the getting started page ... just make a note that edubuntu will look a little different due to the theming, but the features are available in both === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu [11:26] ok [11:27] hey pips1 , looking at GettingStarted? [11:27] yes === juliux loves the silince here [11:29] I'll just add a very short paragraph at the top, saying that the page is mainly only relevant to 6.06 LTS, and that in Feisty, more steps are taken care of automatically [11:30] juliux: that prompted me to check out #ubuntu [11:30] pips1, hehe [11:30] hey , juliux, about that nfs jobbie... i have /etc/exports set to rw , etc and nfs is restarted, yet on my client i'm getting ' read-only filesystem ' [11:30] when i try and run anything really [11:31] llike it wont mount to the server for some reason :| [11:31] did you restarted nfs-common or nfs-kernel-server via init.d? [11:31] yep, both! [11:32] and you have write permissions on the path on the server? [11:32] and ltsp-client-setup rw_dirs has been commented out [11:32] um, should do! [11:32] i think :s [11:32] er, copy_dirs even, not rw_dirs [11:33] the other copydirs that is in the file is copy_dirs="$copy_dirs /etc/X11 /var/lib/x11" [11:33] so those should be accessible by the client you're saying? [11:34] SiCk, you only want to write to /home/kiosk ... so make sure to get that writeable ;) [11:35] right, there's that sorted [11:35] i think... [11:36] i was just wondering ogra, in ltsp-client-setup, i have 3 instances of copy_dirs , should they all be commented? or should it be okay? [11:37] only the one that refers to /home [11:37] good good [11:37] make sure /home/kiosk is really owned by kiosk and that its rw for the user [11:38] there's no way of doing that from the server no? do that on the client? [11:38] since kiosk is only a user on the client chroot === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu [11:40] you can do it with the chroot command as well as directly on the client if your nfs export is readwrite... [11:47] 775 should be a sufficient chmod yes? [11:47] i've chown'd it [11:50] pips1, working on the announcement [11:51] won't "publish", only "submit" [11:52] ok [11:52] once it's ready to be published, we can add it to the 'news' sidebar [11:53] sweet. [11:53] going a little slower since I'm real-time checking for consistency with mail announcement [11:57] ogra, it's still moaning that i'm in a read only filesystem. :( [11:59] i dont get it. all the settings are set, all permissions have been given... [11:59] /home/kiosk has the owner of kiosk and chmod 775 ... === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] pastebin your /etc/exports file === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [12:05] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16372/ === tsurc [n=alistair@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:09] nixternal: ping [12:32] ogra, see any problems with it? looks pretty normal to me :/ [12:34] you could try adding insecure to the options [12:34] (dont leave that there indeed ;)) [12:35] so, *(rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async) ? [12:36] yep [12:36] well ill give it a go, ill try anything at the mo. haha === SiCk throws the server at the wall [12:42] the wall isnt read only === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === vanya [n=vanya@213-117-207-82.ip.ukrtel.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] [01:44] whee, have you seen #ubuntu ? 1440 people in there === vanya [n=vanya@213-117-207-82.ip.ukrtel.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:46] hehe === spacey [n=herman@vpn.osso.nl] has joined #edubuntu [01:57] :) === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === faffelaf [n=faf@83.72.201.180.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #edubuntu [02:33] hi..... cant find the mirrorlist on edubuntu.org.... where did it go? Something worng with the isos? [02:34] it gets updated ... [02:34] as soon as the release is out the list should be there [02:34] pips1, right ? [02:35] I already downloaded the i386 7.04, but the burning crashes in the finalizing stage...... [02:35] pips1: pong? [02:36] ogra: yes, it will be [02:36] nixternal: hi [02:36] hi pips1 [02:36] So.. the final is not out yet? [02:36] nixternal: I was wondering about the Edubuntu Handbook on help.ubuntu.com ? do you know when it will be available? [02:37] wonder what I dl then? [02:37] this week hopefully [02:37] there should be a 7.04 tab shortly I would think [02:37] faffelaf, its out if the announcement is out ... which will happen if all issues like mirror updates are solved [02:37] Its not mirrored yet? [02:38] thx [02:38] bad timing.. I need to put up a server on a school today.... Guess I will have to spend my weekend there then... :) [02:39] its unlikely that the iso will change or something :) [02:40] My iso, on the i386 server install cd, is 692,7 MB (726327296 bytes)......... if anyone have the iso lying around, can you plz check the size for me... plz [02:41] ups... just saw the error, its not complete [02:41] did you check the md5sum ? [02:41] http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/7.04/MD5SUMS [02:43] nice.. thx.. the chucksum matches [02:43] so it must be a-ok [02:44] then i'd guess you have bad media [02:44] is it a 700MB one ? [02:44] tried 2 burns..... both failed... could be my drive... I will try on another burner. [02:45] how much does it need for the finalizing....? isn't it something like 50 mb? [02:45] dont burn to fast as well ... :) (even though that shouldnt influence finalization) [02:45] heheh [02:45] I burn max. 20x [02:45] try 8x [02:45] the cd's are 40x or so [02:46] i will.... I have a webcd burner in the serverroom, will try that. === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt [02:52] It's now burning on a 700MB CD (different brand) 8x, on the server. 70% more to go... wish me luck. :) === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=chatzill@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu [02:58] How many hours left? [03:00] Well, I was fortunate to grap the isos (i386) on a server in norway... ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/edubuntu/feisty/ ... it's full now i'm affraid. [03:03] YES... burn completed... at speed 8 in real TAO mode for single session. burned more than 2000 CD's on that burner (lite-on) never failed... Will try the add-on CD now. === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-240-5-211.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@uwcfw2.uwc.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] Ogra & the rest, thank you for your help, everything is good so far.. lets see how it installs on my HP - X2 XEON server, with SAS disks, in RAID 1. Until then.. bye [03:11] feel fre to come back any time :) [03:11] *free [03:12] I will.. thx === caravena [n=caravena@125-161-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === sbalneav__ is now known as sbalneav [03:29] Morning all [03:29] sbalneav, hey [03:30] Heya ogra! [03:30] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices [03:30] ;) [03:30] and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ldm-improvements [03:32] while you will attac the communcation side of things in ltspfs i'll catch on the desktop side this time ;) [03:32] *attack [03:32] hey sbalneav [03:33] hey hey === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@159-171-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | edgy (6.10) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edgy/ | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes | feisty is released ! === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:32] is it a bad idea to have copy_dirs as just / [04:32] if you have the time to wait until your whole system got copied into memory ... [04:32] i'm going for all out war on the client after a break for a couple. [04:33] and if you have the ram (500M>) [04:33] ah.. balls. [04:33] not on this server no... [04:33] but it wont gain you anything, you know that ... [04:33] the one with 16gb of ram is upstairs :( [04:33] adding stuff to copy dirs puts it in ram [04:33] ah right [04:33] that means changes are lost on shutdown ... [04:33] you want the opposite === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [04:34] i dont want it copying /home in [04:34] so that it uses the one from the server [04:34] or.. lets it write to the one on the server... now im understanding [04:35] it hates me as soon as i apply the comment on that line though [04:35] ' read only filesystem ' [04:36] i thought it was the other way round there [04:37] sbalneav: did you get the announcement ? [04:38] (hi) [04:38] hehe [04:39] go www.edubuntu.org, go ... [04:39] I got the announcements on both -devel and -users [04:39] yay, now it loads [04:40] whoa the site is crunching [04:40] shouldnt we have something on the startpage ... [04:40] like a banner or so [04:40] pips1: was looking for an independent opinion ... you're involved :) [04:41] ther is the news announcement in the sidebar for all pages ... we can add a short news paragraph ? [04:41] yeah, its a bit hidden imho [04:41] pips1: ?? how easy / difficult is it to add a leader paragraph for a few days ? [04:41] on difficult, lemme see [04:41] *not [04:41] welll, its still way more beautioful than ubuntu atm ... [04:41] hehe [04:41] pips1: shall I do a paragreph ? [04:43] ogra, if i add a line in /etc/exports, say... /opt/ltsp/i386/home *(rw,no_root_squash,async) [04:43] would that make a difference [04:43] no [04:43] or even direct to the kiosk folder [04:43] guessing im thinking in the wrong place then [04:43] the settings apply to all subfolders ... [04:44] if you set /opt/ltsp to it everything underneath has the same [04:44] ah, right, i understand === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [04:47] ogra: congrats!! [04:48] LaserJock, same to you ! [04:48] well, I didn't manage to do much :/ [04:48] but I tried anyway :-) [04:49] you bropught us the handbook :) [04:50] well, it was a community effort === LaserJock hugs #edubuntu === RichEd applauds ogra, cbx33, LaserJock, pips1, highvoltage, nixternal and the rest of the gang === ogra applauds RichEd ... where would we be without such good leadership ... thanks ! [04:52] the handbook is great, congrats [04:52] thanks to all of you and all of us [04:52] :) [04:52] and another victory for the free world against capitalism [04:52] :) [04:52] pfft [04:52] *g* === RichEd watches pips1 spray some graffit [04:53] rock on! Congrats everyone! Great job on all of the hard work (LaserJock did all of my work though) :) [04:53] *graffiti [04:53] ogra: is there a mandatory holiday now? [04:53] :-) [04:54] well, the archive is locked ... but there are many specs to be prepared [04:54] WooHoo!, grabbing from the local University's mirror (ussg.indiana.edu) is netting me upwards of 500 kb/s [04:54] nice ! [04:54] SimonAnibal: w00t [04:54] awwwwwww, it's slowing down [04:54] Maybe I told too many people ;-) [04:54] RichEd: hehe === nixternal goes to school, which I am late as all hell for! :) [04:55] Oh, no, it's going back up! [04:55] 800, amazing! [04:55] At this rate I'll have it in about 20 minutes, maybe I should go to lunch... [04:55] I'm glad I have a local feisty mirror ;-) [04:55] SimonAnibal: you from indiana? [04:56] LaserJock: Yeap, Bloomington this week; Fort Wayne next [04:56] Wow, it hit 1 MB/sec there for a bit...I need these speeds at home! [04:57] Hey, is ntfs-3g on Feisty? [04:57] ogra@edubuntu:~$ apt-cache search ntfs-3g [04:57] libntfs-3g-dev - ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace (FUSE) library headers [04:57] libntfs-3g0 - ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace (FUSE) library [04:57] ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE [04:58] RichEd: please don't aplaud me for this release, I totally don't deserve it [04:58] neat, installed by default? === highvoltage appluads everyone else in that list though [04:58] (and will add willvdl and sbalneavs) [04:58] SimonAnibal, universe [04:59] Well, that's better than not; definitely [04:59] If I had the beta installed, is there anything special to do to update it othere that apt-get upgrade? [05:00] I don't think so [05:00] kewl [05:01] highvoltage: you are always around and concistent ... that is a help in itself for keeping the community together [05:01] *consistent [05:02] holy cow, my debian-tex svn checkout ended up at 22GB [05:03] RichEd: :) [05:07] RichEd: agreed [05:07] we do need more workers, but cheerleaders are also good [05:07] ogra, i think that im a wee bit closer [05:08] it's talking about ' user ' 's $HOME directory not having permissions === RichEd tries not to imagine highvoltage in a cheerleader costume [05:08] and that user only exists on the server [05:09] RichEd: even worse, imagine both highvoltage and I in a cheerleader costume === RichEd blacks out [05:09] yeah === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:12] Yay! Done! [05:12] 17:42 [05:14] That's an average of 659 kb/sec [05:14] Boy, those speeds would be nice at home === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === caravena__ [n=caravena@54-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] RichEd: reload www.edubuntu.org ... how is that for the banner? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:17] looking [05:17] well done all!!!! === cbx33 guesses ogra is off sleeping === pips1 hugs cbx33 [05:17] hey RichEd [05:17] pips1: waiting ... we lost the london office on #canonical ... data centre may be iffy [05:18] ouch [05:18] DoS? [05:18] oops === cbx33 got his iso this morning [05:18] ;) [05:22] pips1, take a look at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ === pips1 looks [05:23] wow [05:23] when was it relased? [05:23] how long ago? [05:23] cbx33, perhpas 30min [05:23] NO way! [05:23] cbx33, they reset the counter [05:23] wow [05:23] really? [05:23] cbx33: like 2 days ago, where were you? ;-) [05:23] LaserJock, whahaa? [05:23] what are you doing here [05:24] cbx33, refresh the site and you can see how the traffic grows [05:24] That's insane [05:24] cbx33: me? I'm partying! [05:24] hehehe [05:24] wahooooooo! [05:24] \o/ === cbx33 has not much to party about [05:24] :( === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [05:24] i missed a lot recently [05:24] sorry guys [05:24] pls party in #ubuntu-release-party;) [05:25] cbx33: well, I never said I was partying because I did so much ;-) [05:27] Heya [05:29] pips1: header looks good ... thanks [05:29] ok === pips1 is watching the hits on the site [05:30] pips1: and ? going up dramatically or not / [05:30] steadily climbing [05:31] but we are getting much less referrals from ubuntu.com, because the basic front page doesn't include the link to us... [05:31] out for examen [05:31] pips1: the people who know us will find us [05:31] juliux: all the best [05:31] thxs pips1 [05:32] i've asked newz2000 for more prominence on ubuntu.com ... we'll work on it [05:32] juliux: from me too [05:33] why did they change the front page? [05:33] to facilitate maximum downloads? [05:33] dude [05:33] cbx33: server load and ease of download ... most people visiting today want a download [05:34] you should have seen the forums last night [05:34] torrent site seems down [05:34] yeh? [05:34] they were installing automatic refresher programs [05:34] seems i missed out on all th fun [05:34] #ubuntu has like 1500 people in it [05:34] WOW [05:34] we ROCK [05:34] there were seriously 50+ pages on the forums in less than3 hrs [05:34] 1529 and climbing [05:35] all, "I don't see it! I don't see it! Where is it?!?!?!" [05:35] hehe === jitj [n=ubuntu@198.110.170.202] has joined #edubuntu === jitj [n=ubuntu@198.110.170.202] has left #edubuntu [] [05:36] it's so nice and quiet here [05:36] yeh [05:36] is not! === cbx33 doesn't even wanna visit the other channels [05:36] compared to others it is === cbx33 wonders if planet is just FEISTY IS RELEASED [05:37] well [05:37] tomorrow you guys will get some visitors [05:38] eh? [05:38] planet is down [05:39] guess it's not a priority now ;) [05:39] I'd love to visit Canonical Data Centre ;) [05:39] yeah, I was thinking the same [05:39] seeing all those blinkin lights [05:40] showing how damn popular Ubuntu is [05:41] arg, I'm getting all those 404 in the logs, because distrowatch has a wrong link on their site [05:41] pips1: what is their link ? [05:42] and can you mail a correction to them ? [05:42] yeah, I should [05:42] it's on this page http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=edubuntu [05:42] Download Mirrors http://www.edubuntu.org/PreviewReleaseFeedback/ [05:43] I don't know where the heck they got that url from [05:55] http://shots.linuxquestions.org/index.php?os=edubuntu [05:55] "High volume due to today's release of Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" (+ Slashdot) is causing temporary service problems." === student_ [n=student@wsip-68-224-175-56.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === student_ is now known as MrWizard14 [06:02] how do you run ssh on edubuntu? [06:04] MrWizard14: do you mean a ssh server? [06:04] from where to where do you want to connect? [06:05] edubuntu to Mac OS X [06:05] it's set up [06:05] ssh is available by default [06:05] what command is it? [06:05] ssh [06:05] :-) [06:05] so shh Username@ip [06:05] ? [06:06] yes [06:06] try "man ssh" [06:06] for a manual of ssh on the command line [06:06] press "q" to quit the manual === dlozo [n=dlozano@rrcs-24-173-105-238.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === dlozo [n=dlozano@rrcs-24-173-105-238.sw.biz.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] [06:26] highvoltage: hi [06:27] highvoltage: im back from school and haircut [06:28] highvoltage: *poke* [06:28] :o [06:29] sacater: ouch! don't poke so hard! [06:29] that's pygi's job :) [06:29] okies [06:29] go on gizmo [06:29] sacater: just joking :) [06:29] ive fixed my end [06:30] I'll have to try gizmo again a bit later, I'm still at work and will leave in about a minute or so [06:30] catch you again later... [06:30] ok ill be back later [06:48] see you all! [06:52] highvoltage: im back [06:56] highvoltage: im bacl [06:56] back === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === slyfox [n=slyfox@CPE0014bf7b993b-CM000f9f808008.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] Can someone help me with how to limit time for linux users? Say I want a specific user to auto log of at 10pm on weekdays ? === Dlozo [n=dlozo@rrcs-24-173-105-238.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:23] hey all [07:27] Can someone help me with how to limit time for linux users? Say I want a specific user to auto log of at 10pm on weekdays ? === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:37] !repeat slyfox [07:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat slyfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [07:37] slyfox: that can be done, but wait for an answer [07:37] dont say 12 minutes apart [07:37] sorry [07:37] people do read channel y'know [07:38] timeoutd should do what I need, but it is not working, so I also need to isntall timeout in order for timeoutd to work ? === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [08:06] no idea [08:06] perhaps [08:06] highvoltage: art thou back home yet? === hendrik_ [n=hendrik@dsl-243-124-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === hendrik_ [n=hendrik@dsl-243-124-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-155-148-181.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [09:46] highvoltage: still not home : [09:46] :o === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu === niekie [n=niekie@cc725705-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === hendrik_ [n=hendrik@dsl-243-124-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] highvoltage: aw come on [10:54] you must be back by now [10:54] he's probably asleep [10:55] maybe [10:55] hasnt been on all day :| [10:58] well, he's a busy guy [10:59] yep [10:59] bit like me [10:59] i live off liquid caffeine though [11:03] well, he's running a company so he doesn't always have time for IRC [11:07] LaserJock, highvoltage was online this morning === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === hendrik_ [n=hendrik@dsl-243-124-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"]