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nixternal^^ PROOFERS NEEDED12:33
instructorsed 1d12:38
instructornixternal: It's coming out next Friday?12:38
nixternaldidn't I change the date12:38
nixternalk, fixed :)12:39
nixternalI swore I changed that earlier12:39
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Riddellnixternal: the winfoss screenshot is out of date, I can do that if you don't have a windows machine12:42
nixternalRiddell: I have one, but won't be able to hit it until later tonight12:42
lnxkdenixternal, nice12:42
nixternallnxkde: thanks12:42
nixternalI forgot to bring a CD with me to school. I was going to do it here12:43
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instructornixternal: You neighbour on last.fm ?12:46
Arbynixternal: misspelt apologises and development in WinFOSS section12:47
nixternalthat means they were wrong in Edgy as well then12:47
nixternalArby: that is supposed to be Localisation, but for some reason I forgot the <h2>12:48
instructorWhy don't you have FOSS Free open source software?12:49
ArbyI understand the s|z thing but development is missing an e and apologise is only one p isn't it?12:50
nixternalwow, there were quite a few typos ;)12:51
nixternalfixed them with a spell check12:51
nixternalinstructor: where? WinFOSS?12:51
nixternalWinFOSS is the name of the actuall app we are using12:51
Arbynixternal: so you got the ones under requirements as well?12:52
nixternaland if you read the paragraph in that section, FOSS is defined12:52
nixternal64 or fam?12:52
Arbyyes that12:52
nixternalya, got that one12:52
Arbyalso availabel12:52
nixternalspeeeeel checker got it12:53
Arbycool :)12:53
nixternalrefresh for the fixed version12:53
instructornixternal: Yes but it means Free Open source Software12:53
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instructor You just have Free Software12:53
instructorit looks strange to me12:53
nixternalread the paragraph12:53
instructorYeah I guess12:54
instructorStill feels funny but it is a long phrase12:54
instructorShould translations have a heading?12:54
instructorIt looks like part of WinFOSS12:54
instructorproxy cached :(12:54
instructorIs that a word?12:56
Arbynixternal: will KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems exist by tomorrow, currently returns page does not exist12:56
nixternalvirtualization, good catch instructor12:56
nixternalArby: will create it, yes12:57
nixternalthere should be one more page that doesn't exist yet as well12:57
Arbyhaven't tried all the links yet12:57
instructornixternal: You have it more than once12:58
nixternalthen again if the page doesn't exist, that means there are no problems ;)12:58
nixternalinstructor: you know why, stupid spell checker took virtualise and did that12:58
nixternalI was just fixing those right as you said that12:58
Arbyerr, yeah :)12:58
Arbyah, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ KubuntuFeistyComments is the other missing page12:59
Arbyis the url supposed to have a space in it12:59
nixternalKate irritates me with the line breaks and adding a silly space12:59
nixternalthat is Kate doing that12:59
nixternalthat is interesting01:00
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nixternalOK, all of those spaces should be fixed now01:05
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nixternalback on later to do more tweaking as you add the notes01:08
Arbynixternal: 'The alternate CD allows you perform custom' - missing 'to'01:10
Riddelllnxkde: https://www.stgraber.org/ubuntu/isotesting/01:11
lnxkdeRiddell, thankx, that is final right?01:14
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Riddellno, we don't release until tomorrow01:19
lnxkdeRiddell, ok nice will be downloading rc in minutes01:19
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Riddellnixternal: I'm off to bed, I expect the release to be early european morning so make sure to push your changes to your repository and we'll be all set02:26
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ryanakcaWeee! April 19th! well, part of the world is...03:23
ryanakcawhen is feisty released? and when does work on gibbon start?03:23
jjessei think feisty is released tomorrow03:23
seeleimbrandon: ive seemed to fallen off planet ubuntu?03:24
ajmitchryanakca: work on gutsy has already started03:25
ryanakcaajmitch: really? well... when is there something that /I/ can do to help out... I can't really build kernels and X11, etc... that's taken care of by the genius03:28
ryanakcas/genius/genius' or those on the canoncial payroll, or those who've been using linux for 7-8 years03:28
jjessei wasn't aware that the builds were open03:28
ajmitchI'm sure there's some small thing you'd like to see packaged, that you could do & put on REVU for universe03:28
ajmitchjjesse: they're not, but I've still got stuff queued for gutsy03:29
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ScottKryanakca: Bug triaging and getting fixes in the hopper for when the gutsy repos open is good.03:30
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ryanakcaScottK: kk03:57
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nixternalscribus is still on the WinFOSS CD04:56
nixternalso there is Scribus, Firefox, and Thunderbird04:56
ScottKOpen Office?04:57
nixternaljust 3 apps05:00
nixternalbreak time05:00
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imbrandonseele, ping08:30
imbrandonseele, yea Riddell pulled the RSS feed because you werent a member yet ( ubuntu/kubuntu member ) and I dident realize08:30
imbrandonsoooo its my job now to encourage you to go for membership08:31
giangyhi imbrandon08:31
imbrandonhello giangy08:32
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Hobbseehi all08:50
ScottKGood morning.08:51
giangyhi Hobbsee08:51
Hobbseehi giangy :)08:51
Jucatohi Hobbsee!! :)08:51
Hobbseehi Jucato!08:51
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_StefanS_kwwii: you there ? :)09:41
_StefanS_hi all09:41
Jucatooh hi _StefanS_! long time :)09:41
_StefanS_yea :)09:41
_StefanS_taking care of family and work.. stuff takes most of your time09:41
_StefanS_bought a new car aswell09:41
Riddellnixternal: waa, you didn't push your changes09:48
Riddellah hah, his branch is also at http://www.nixternal.com/kwww/09:49
Riddellarg, that's not up to date09:57
Riddellaah, maybe it's all my fault10:00
Riddellwhy yes it is10:01
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Riddellnow, if only someone would being me some irn-bru I could release feisty10:08
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_StefanS_irn-bru ?10:25
_StefanS_Riddell: what about that guy complaining on the networkmanager issues ?10:25
_StefanS_Riddell: and thunderbird 2.0 ? :)10:26
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Riddell_StefanS_: many people complain about network manager, but it's mostly been fixed11:16
_StefanS_Riddell: yes, I see that... I myself haven't had issues since about 2 months ago11:16
_StefanS_Riddell: guess its minority of the users11:17
Jucatohi Riddell! just a quick question: how/from where will the dist-upgrade tool be made available on edgy?11:17
jsgotangcochange the sources?11:17
Jucatothe dist-upgrade tool will do that automatically11:18
jsgotangcoyeah, but you're smarter to use that right? :)11:18
Jucatoquestion is how will edgy users get the dist-upgrade tool11:18
Jucatooh not for me :P11:18
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jsgotangcothere's a swich11:18
Jucatosince last..um.. can't remember11:18
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RiddellJucato: if it all goes to plan it should magically appear11:19
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JucatoRiddell: ah from the -updates repository11:20
RiddellJucato: no, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release will be updated and that points to where to download the upgrader11:20
Riddellso Adept should go, aha a new release11:20
Jucatojsgotangco: until this release, there was no dist-upgrade/upgrade manager for kubuntu so it's very new11:21
Jucatoaah I see11:21
Riddellbut we need people to test it since the final thing has not been tested before11:21
jsgotangcoJucato: yep familiar with it11:21
jsgotangcoso adept had an update to accomodate it huh?11:22
JucatoI guess so. Adept keeps getting better and better :)11:23
Riddelljsgotangco: yes, in edgy-updates11:23
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_StefanS_ah thats sweet.. michael dell runs ubuntu on his home laptop :)11:32
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viviersfRiddell, ping11:38
viviersfRiddell, who does the artwork for kubuntu11:38
Riddellhi viviersf11:38
Riddellviviersf: that'll be kwwii11:38
viviersfRiddell, especially usplash11:38
viviersfkwwii, PING11:38
Riddellyes, kwwii11:39
viviersfRiddell, thx bud11:39
kwwiiviviersf: pong11:43
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Not far to go | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main"
\shRiddell: do you have packages for feisty?11:47
\shRiddell: or are they already in feisty?11:47
Riddell\sh: of what?11:48
RiddellKDE 4 is in feisty universe11:48
viviersfkwwii, can you help me with sumthing plz11:49
apokryphosnearly 400 in #kubuntu 8)11:51
apokryphosjust don't look at the #ubuntu amount :o11:51
Jucatojust 3 more persons11:51
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JucatoRiddell: hm... so you mean the dist-upgrade tool will be available same time that feisty is released (when the changelog file is updated)?12:19
RiddellJucato: yes12:20
Jucatoah thanks :)12:20
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_StefanS_Jucato: have you tried thunderbird 2.0 ?12:33
Jucato_StefanS_: no... I don't use thunderbird (and barely use firefox on Linux)...12:34
_StefanS_you like konqueror?12:34
Jucatofor most of my browsing needs? yes12:34
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mhbhi folks01:04
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ryanakcahmmm.... irn-bru01:13
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\shRiddell: kde4 is not starting up on feisty...01:39
\sh(on my laptop at least)01:39
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nixternalRiddell: did you get it? I pushed/committed my changes :)02:34
Riddellnixternal: yes thanks02:35
Riddellall going great02:35
nixternalWinFOSS still has Scribus02:35
nixternalKDE-PIM was removed though02:35
Riddellyes, I forgot that02:35
jsgotangcoeven my edgy update is darn slow02:36
Riddelldon't use the london data centre now02:37
nixternalI use the Indiana University FTP repos02:38
nixternalthey are super fast02:38
Riddellanyone with access to elite university type bandwidth should start torrenting02:38
jsgotangcothe last time i saw something like this crazy was just before dapper02:39
nixternalRiddell: I will setup a couple of boxes as soon as I get there this morning02:39
jsgotangcobut this tops them all02:39
nixternalI need to do it here as well02:39
nixternalare the torrents ready?02:39
Riddellthe kubuntu ones are02:39
jsgotangcoand people would rather believe at digg than the official annoucement02:39
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jsgotangcothey are?02:40
nixternalHobbsee: HAPPY RELEASE DAY!!!02:40
nixternalif I could figure out the CLI torrent client I would rock it, but I don't have time02:41
nixternalso I will fire up KTorrent here and start torrenting02:41
Hobbseehey nixternal, nospam02:41
jsgotangcowhere is the torrent?02:42
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Riddellbtlaunchmanycurses .02:43
HobbseeRiddell: hm?02:43
RiddellJucato: any of the mirrors http://kubuntu.org/download2.php02:43
Riddellthat should have been jsgotangco02:44
nixternalor releases.ubuntu.com02:44
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Riddellif you like being slow02:44
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Riddelljsgotangco: any of the mirrors http://kubuntu.org/download2.php02:44
nixternalwell I have the 4 torrents opened in KTorrent now02:44
nixternalonly 1 is going, now 202:45
jsgotangcohmmm i guess there's no jigdo for desktop because of squashfs?02:45
jsgotangcok im gonna seed amd64s02:46
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nixternalwow, I have them all seeded :)02:46
Riddellmaybe I should just rebel and announce it before ubuntu :)02:46
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nixternalget slashdotted first02:47
nixternaljsgotangco: me either, but others do :)02:47
HobbseeRiddell: why not.  your website still exists :P02:47
HobbseeRiddell: sounds great to me02:47
Riddellwe already had screenshots done for us by linuxquestions02:47
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jsgotangcosebas: its usually 1 annoucement for all 402:49
sebasYes, all called Ubuntu, KDE mentioned nowhere.02:49
sebasI'm not a huge fan of this umbrella branding.02:49
jsgotangcome too actually02:49
nixternalsebas: they kind of were, 3 days ago :)02:49
sebasKubuntu could have a much stronger brand of its own.02:49
Riddellthe problem is the lack of actual umbrella branding02:49
nixternalerr, s/they/we/ ;)02:50
sebasRight, Riddell.02:50
Hobbseebah.  just release kubuntu first.  it's about time we got some recognition02:50
sebasIn fact it is none.02:50
nixternalHobbsee: +102:50
sebasLet's discuss that again in Sevilla.02:50
nixternalwhat are they gonna do? fire you? I doubt it ;)02:50
sebasWe talked about separating releases in Paris, and IMO it still makes sense.02:50
nixternalyou will just get 50 lashings02:50
Riddellsebas: jono was talking about it too02:50
sebasWe could also get closer to KDE's release cycles.02:50
nixternalthat would be cool02:51
sebasRiddell: I discussed that with him over a beer in Mountainview, actually.02:51
sebasToday or tomorrow might be a good day to blog about this.02:51
Riddellseparate releases I still don't like the idea of02:51
sebasSame reasons, still?02:51
mhbis it even technically possible?02:51
mhbI mean the core is the same02:51
Hobbseeparticularly as it messes freezes, etc02:52
sebasmhb: Yes.02:52
mhbmy point, Hobbsee02:52
jsgotangcoits pretty much a different community even02:52
nixternalI guess it would be kind of a pain, because we would either be behind, or it would be difficult trying to dev a revision ahead of the other02:52
jsgotangconot so different, but its there02:52
Riddelldelaying a week or so might be possible, entirely separate releases are less so02:52
sebasWe could sync with KDE's release cycle (as soon as there is one) and release Kubuntu with the .1 and get more bugfixes.02:52
sebasWe've got to be behind, that's *much* safer.02:53
mhbif KDE synced its' release cycle with GNOME ...02:53
sebasAlso, you don't want to be too far off, imagine dev summits where the previous one is not released yet02:53
sebasmhb: Don't hold your breath :-)02:53
jsgotangcogood point02:53
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mhbsebas: that would solve our problem, and not only ours ... other distros ship both DEs, too02:55
=== nixternal too
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sebasmhb: It's simply not going to happen.02:55
mhbsebas: because one group hates the other? :o)02:55
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sebasAlthough I *do* think that KDE should release bi-annually.02:55
sebasFixed cycles make enterprise adoption easier.02:55
jsgotangcowe could wish its just that reason heh02:55
nixternalhahaha jsgotangco02:55
sebasmhb: No, because the release team really has other things to care about.02:56
Riddellsebas: I agree with that02:56
Riddellbut it'll never happen02:56
sebasAnd frankly, I don't think that GNOME's releases are something KDE should work towards to.02:56
sebasThe stuff that GNOME gets once in a half year is about the same amount KDE gets in a bugfix update lately. KDE's development is much more active and probably completely different.02:57
jsgotangcointeresting..i don't get that much bug reports now hahaha people are dying in anticipation rather than file bugs02:57
nixternalwow, these torrents have degraded my network badly02:57
sebasRiddell: Well, last time we talked about that we postponed it to KDE4 time :)02:57
nixternal5.09s lag according to irssi02:57
sebasRight now, this discussion doesn't make sense, we first need to see how stable KDE4 pans out.02:58
sebasIf we can easily stabilise stuff within a month at any point in time, it would work IMO.02:58
Hobbseenixternal: i'm starting to think that freenode isnt coping under the load, atm02:58
kwwiiRiddell: so is one of those pics good enough for the release pic or not02:59
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nixternalHobbsee: I wouldn't doubt it, have they ever coped under any load though?02:59
Riddellkwwii: yes, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php02:59
Hobbseenixternal: some, yes02:59
mhbRiddell: is there anything in pyqt/pykde the French fellow who contacted me recently can do for gutsy?02:59
mhbRiddell: have you found anything?02:59
nixternalit is definitely network degragration here though, my email is taking forever to download02:59
nixternal34%, 58 messages, and stuck03:00
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nixternalsebas: I think that is what I am waiting for. I responded to a rapidly growing post on the Ubuntu forums last night03:01
nixternaland it wouldn't let me "unsubscribe" from getting replies to it03:01
ScottKnixternal: IRC latency here is 76ms, so I think you're right.03:01
nixternal1.97s here for me03:02
HobbseeRiddell: oh just go and release it...03:02
Hobbsee25 sec here for me, i keep almost dropping out03:02
nixternalScottK: have you even gone to sleep yet?03:02
ScottK+1 for Hobbsee03:02
ScottKSlept for about 3 hours.  I have insomnia sometimes03:02
nixternallike me, just a quick nap ey :)03:02
nixternalhaha same here03:02
ScottKNot on purpose.03:02
giangy'afternoon guys03:03
nixternalinterveniously on a pot of coffee now03:03
Hobbseehiya giangy03:03
nixternalhiy giangy03:03
ScottKReminds me I need to go get coffee.  brb03:03
nixternalhiya rather03:03
kwwiiwow, my torrent download speed is reaching over 500KB/S03:04
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nixternalkwwii: that will only last a little bit :) at least it did here03:10
nixternalmine started out fast like that, now they are either stalled or 4k and lower03:10
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jsgotangcome too03:12
jsgotangcoim just grabbing at 20KB/s now03:12
Riddellnixternal: 14:12 <@mdz> Seveas: there is no dev team meeting today; if you could update the calendar I would appreciate it03:13
nixternalgot it03:13
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\sheverybody in feisty release mood? ,-)03:17
=== ScottK is in a needs more coffee mood.
nixternalI am in a Venti Caramel Macchiatto mood03:18
jsgotangcoeww starbucks03:19
nixternalmmm Starbucks03:19
=== ScottK learned to drink coffee on Navy shipboard coffee. ANY coffee he had these days seems good.
nixternalthey have a low fat bacon and swiss breakfast sammich that is out of this world03:19
ScottKIf there's anyone that has a moment and remembers the details on setting up with a new cloak, I'd appreciate a pointer in the right direction.  I've gone through the freenode FAQ and made sure I'm an identified user.  Seveas has added me to the cloaked users group.  What next?03:20
jsgotangcohow much is a venti $3? $5 jeez03:20
ScottKnixternal probably gets it with an extra shot too.03:20
ScottKThat costs more.03:20
nixternal2 extra shots03:20
nixternalScottK: Freenode has to add the cloak03:21
ScottKSo I need to ask an op or just wait?03:21
nixternalI just asked one of the guys who I think does cloaks03:21
=== ScottK will go look for an op then. Thanks.
\shis seveas not doing the cloaks or the communication with freenode?03:22
jsgotangcoyeah i thought its all automatic03:22
nixternalhe does, but it is on freenode to add the cloak03:22
HobbseeScottK: will try to pull some strings, but staffers arent here03:22
Hobbseeas usual03:22
nixternalya, the staffers are afk from what I can tell03:22
ScottKHobbsee: Thanks.  I'll drink more coffee and not worry about it.03:23
\shI'm glad that I did remove my cloak03:23
nixternalone sec ScottK I have one on the line03:23
\shHobbsee: I had problems in some other channels when I came with ubuntu cloak ...03:23
Hobbsee\sh: ahhh.  i deauth for that sort of thing03:24
laursebas, any new thoughts about the second monitor problem ?03:24
\shbtw..does anyone has problems with kde4 on feisty?03:26
HobbseeScottK: done03:26
sebas\sh: Yes, some lib is too old03:27
nixternalall the cool people have ops in the release-party-page huh03:27
sebaslaur: Dunno, which?03:27
Hobbseenixternal: of course03:27
\shsebas: ah...segfault right?03:27
nixternalamaranth is working it03:27
sebas\sh: No, just older than the minimum required.03:27
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sebasI wouldn't think that a segfault in kde4 is a feisty problem :-)03:27
\shsebas: hm..at my place it's segfaulting when I start it via kdm or .xinitrc03:27
sebasDidn't try that, I only used Xephyr and startkde03:28
\shsadly I don't see what component is segfaulting :(03:28
sebasTried startkde?03:28
nixternalScottK: you are cloaked btw03:28
laurBug #10512503:28
ubotuMalone bug 105125 in kde-guidance "After enableing second monitor guidance crashes on every startup and graphical display manager crashes immidiately when launched" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10512503:28
\shsebas: yepp...03:28
ScottKnixternal: Thanks.03:29
nixternalno problemo03:29
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\shsebas: /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; startx and in .xinitrc /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde with the exports added03:29
sebasHm, can't help, \sh. Sorry03:29
sebaslaur: Is the xorg.conf bad?03:31
ScottKNow here's an interesting bug... Bug #9993903:31
ubotuMalone bug 99939 in ubuntu-bots "!x > y works even if y is not in any channel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9993903:31
laursebas, explain 'bad' =)03:32
\shsebas: no...on my laptop it fcks up because of xinerama03:38
\shsebas: or just because I don't use the default xorg.conf03:39
nixternalhaha, I want to start trolling so bad in the party channel :)03:39
\shnixternal: please don't there are enough trolls around ;)03:39
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nixternal\sh: but I am a much better troll03:39
nixternalI do the reverse trollology03:40
nixternalthey don't know what to do03:40
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sebaslaur: Broken as in X does not start03:41
nixternalOK, I will stop telling people that digg has pointed you to the fake releases we made to relieve the stress for the real release :)03:42
sebasnixternal: Hehe03:42
nixternalthey should just go ahead and post the announcement. hell everyone is already downloading it03:42
laursebas, x starts, only with totally wrong settings03:43
sebasWhere, ubuntu.com is broken all the day :-)03:43
sebaslaur: So it's really displayconfig-restore that does things wrong?03:43
Riddellta da http://kubuntu.org/03:43
nixternalRiddell: did you do that prematurely :)03:44
sebasRiddell: Congrats to the release.03:44
Hobbseecongrats on the release everyone03:44
nixternalCONGRATS TO EVERYONE!!!03:44
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Riddellnixternal: maybe :)03:44
nixternalhaha, awesome!!!03:44
nixternalhappy release day manchicken__03:45
HobbseeRiddell: -release-party has just picked it up, immediately03:45
manchicken__Thank you nixternal, happy release day to you too :)03:45
manchickenThere's a -release-party?03:46
nixternalfinally, k.o is finally loading :)03:46
Hobbseeyes.  has been all day03:46
stivaniAt the bottom of the page in kubuntu.org there is a wrong last modified date03:46
stivaniprobably someone could change it :)03:46
laursebas, i don't know what does it wrong, for start the guidance fails to set the resolution03:47
sebasYes, but *when*03:48
manchickenubuntu.com still says the release is tomorrow.  heh03:48
sebasLet me explain: displayconfig changes the xorg.conf to enable dualhead, but also does some settings during X login (user setting, so to speak).03:48
sebasFor the latter, xinit runs a tool called displayconfig-restore.03:48
sebasWithout trace and not knowing where to look, it's impossible to debug from here.03:49
laurbut still, it should be the displayconfig that writes the resolution of the monitor to xorg.conf ?03:51
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nixternalRiddell: the release is linked to 7.04-beta.php03:53
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Hobbseehi danimo!03:54
danimocongrats everyone involved!03:54
nixternalahh manchicken is cooler than me, not fair! :)03:54
manchickenSays who?03:54
nixternalyou are on the top of the totem poll in party central03:56
nixternalargh the lag03:56
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nixternal09:00:54 [@   Seveas]  apparntly even kubuntu.org was premature04:01
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Hobbseebah.  pulled.04:08
ScottKWell I just found 4 more dupes of Bug #97507.  That makes 22 now...04:09
ubotuMalone bug 97507 in kde-guidance "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>() - ixf86misc" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9750704:10
nixternalmanchicken: ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.0404:10
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nixternalRock on USSG has the ISO's already04:11
nixternaland at 2MBps04:11
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\shdanimo: thx to you guys from kde :)04:13
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danimo\sh: tnx04:14
\shdanimo: will you be at froscon?04:15
danimo\sh: next stop: make (k)networkmanager and guidance-power-manager not fuck up after resuming from suspend :}04:15
danimo\sh: sure as hell! I'm organizing it, dude :)04:15
\shdanimo: cool...:)04:15
danimo\sh: there'll be a KDE/Kubuntu Room again04:15
\shdanimo: will be there for a talk with mrfai (officially)04:16
danimo\sh: who?04:16
\shdanimo: thomas lange04:16
danimo\sh: ah04:16
\shdanimo: we decided to do a talk together :)04:16
danimo\sh: cool04:21
danimo(again :)04:21
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Feisty Out! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main"
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Riddellthanks danimo04:28
Riddellanyone want to do a dot story?04:28
manchickenNobody anticipated all 15 million users hitting kubuntu.org at the same time, eh?  heh04:28
danimoRiddell: does kubuntu also have the migration assistent?04:28
Riddellno, not yet04:29
danimoRiddell: it's so sad that whatever the ubuntu community does, kubuntu is one step behind :(04:30
nixternalI can't keep up with what they are saying in the party channel04:30
nixternalthe lines go by so fast, I feel like I am on Acid watching a Stones concert04:31
ScottKnixternal: Which channel?  I'm game for a look.04:31
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nixternalRiddell: what are you looking for on te dot story?04:31
nixternalnone of my stories make it, maybe this will be a first ;)04:32
Riddellnixternal: 1 paragraph, release is out, give it a KDE angle04:32
_marseillais_Riddell, could you come on #kubuntu-fr to op me to change the title? i'm not at home and can not op me....04:32
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Riddellanyone have edgy installed?04:34
ScottKRiddell: I have to swap hard drives in my laptop, so give me a minute, but yet04:36
ScottKWhat do you need?04:36
Riddelltesting that adept really runs the upgrader and that it upgrades04:37
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ScottKSure.  Tell me which things to click and I"ll do it.04:37
ScottKI almost never use adept...04:37
fritschRiddell: i made a test upgrade to feisty beta from edgy and it went fine ...04:37
Riddellfollow kubuntu instructions for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades04:37
ScottKWill do04:37
Riddellfritsch: but now I need it tested for the final thing :)04:38
fritschRiddell: oki :-) sorry, but cannot revert it that easy04:38
kwwiiRiddell: I will test it as well04:40
nixternalRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16403/  <- there is a base for a dot kde story04:41
ScottKRiddell: That's an Ubuntu link, not Kubuntu?04:42
ScottKRiddell: Nevermind04:43
nixternalRiddell: I gotta roll to school, so if you can't use that little write up, then you either have to wait, or you can rock it out, or someone else in here :)04:43
nixternalman I am late04:43
nixternalthis hoopla has killed my morning :)04:44
abattoirhi everyone, congratulations on the release!04:46
ScottKOnly 101 upgradeable packages... (this is to get Edgy up to date before the upgrade)04:48
=== hunger hopes work on the next release will start soon:-)
=== nixternal too
nixternalI am ready to dist-upgrade04:49
nixternalI hate stability!04:49
=== hunger hates stable ubuntu releases... those tend to break horribly for me:-(
abattoirScottK: you see the 'Version Upgrade' button?04:49
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hungerAbout 2 weeks before a new ubuntu release is about to hit the streets my boxes tend to stop working properly:-|04:50
ScottKabattoir: Still getting my 219 mb of Edgy updates.04:50
abattoirScottK: oh ok, there are a couple of users over at #kubuntu saying they don't see it04:50
danimohunger: I am already waiting for the time I get "upgrade to gutsy" when asking for updated libs04:50
danimoor apps04:51
ScottKThe good news is the us repo is quick.04:51
ScottKBTW, I had the Edgy 3.5.6 packages installed, so you might want someone who didn't have this if there are any...04:51
kwwiiI did not have it installed04:52
kwwiibut the download is taking forever04:52
ScottKThat's good then04:52
hungerdanimo: Will happen soon enough:-)04:52
hungerdanimo: Well, it will be slow going for the next couple of weeks till the devs get over their meeting thingy:-)04:54
ScottKNo reason you all can't go triage or fix bugs in the meantime...04:59
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imbrandonhahah nice05:03
imbrandonkubuntu is far more downloaded than the others05:03
imbrandonsince i started seeding this morning05:03
imbrandonubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso (100.0%) seeding - 59 peers 84 seeds 7.999 dist copies - 0 B dn 1.7GiB up492.4MiB     0 B/s346.4KiB/s05:03
imbrandonubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (100.0%) seeding - 149 peers 113 seeds 15.999 dist copies - 0 B dn 1.9GiB up697.9MiB     0 B/s243.1KiB/s05:03
imbrandonkubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (100.0%) seeding - 153 peers 77 seeds 11.999 dist copies - 0 B dn 2.5GiB up694.1MiB     0 B/s673.1KiB/s05:03
imbrandonRiddell, ^^05:03
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freeflying_Congrats all, feisty out  :)05:18
Lathiatimbrandon: heh05:18
Lathiatimbrandon: im pushing 3M/s of ubuntu-desktop-i386.iso atm05:18
Lathiatmy link doesn tgo any faster :/05:18
Lathiatin fact azureus is having a hard time keeping it on 3M/s05:18
Lathiatkeeps wining up to 3.2M/s05:19
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Riddellimbrandon: fancy submitting an article to the dot?  e.g. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16403/05:20
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acidBURNnothing as of yet for updates05:21
RiddellacidBURN: what are you trying?05:21
acidBURNsudo apt-get update05:22
ScottKRiddell: So far Adept hangs at the end of my attempt to have an up to date Edfy05:22
apacheloggerbtw, will feisty be available via shipit or only next LTS release?05:22
ScottKNVM - Just VERY slow05:22
acidBURNso, when are the updates coming....for feisty beta05:24
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abattoirapachelogger: from what i read, it should be available05:25
abattoirIS available, i should say. https://shipit.ubuntu.com/05:25
apacheloggerarrsome :D05:25
abattoirsorry, https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ :)05:26
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abattoirhi bddebian :)05:27
bddebianHello abattoir05:27
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freeflying_I will have a presentation at May. 8 for Kubuntu/ubuntu on beijingLUG05:30
ScottKRiddell: My edgy is now up to date, but I'm not being offered the upgrade wizard until I stop adept and restart it.  Then I get it.05:33
abattoirScottK: yeah, i think adept is upgraded too, so you need to run the newer version to see it05:33
imbrandonRiddell, sure, give me one sec05:33
ScottKThat's probably worth a mention in the procedure.05:34
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RiddellScottK: it does say you need to quit and restart adept05:37
ScottKNo it did not05:37
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ScottKRiddell: OK.  Got it.05:38
ScottKSo I'm following the process then05:38
ScottKUpgrader's running now05:39
imbrandonRiddell, submitted05:39
ScottKSorry - only had about 3 hrs sleep last night and am a bit fuzzy.05:39
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ScottKWell at 120kb/s it's gonna be a while...05:43
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Riddellnixternal: your kubuntu-docs update breaks english docs05:50
Riddellthere's en_GB and some en_CA but no en05:50
Riddelldanimo: fancy publishing that dot story?05:51
ScottKRiddell: It's going to be many hours until I know if this upgrade works or not...05:53
RiddellScottK: if it's started fine then chances are it'll continue fine05:54
manchickenDo we have any trackers other than torrent.ubuntu.com?05:54
ScottKOK.  It's started05:54
Riddellmanchicken: that would kindae defeat the purpose05:55
manchickenRiddell: Having redundant trackers?05:55
danimoRiddell: just do it05:56
manchickenI keep getting timeouts from the tracker.05:56
Riddellyes, a torrent should only have 1 centre05:56
Riddelldanimo: conflict of interest if I publish it05:56
manchickenRiddell: That makes sense, but it seems like the ubuntu tracker is just getting hammered so hard it can't keep up.05:57
giangyUbuntu CD i386 http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=397805:59
giangyKubuntu CD i386 http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3980&hit=105:59
giangyXubuntu CD i386 http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3984&hit=105:59
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giangymanchicken: ^05:59
manchickenNaw, just hitting the update button in ktorrent fixed the problem it seems.06:00
ScottKBug #107727 ...06:00
ubotuMalone bug 107727 in update-manager "Upgrade Tool crashed upon Feisty Ugrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10772706:00
manchickenThe kubuntu i386 iso isn't doing too well.06:00
ScottKThe crash is in adept-manager06:00
MidMarkhi, I had this problem during distro-upgrade: 2007-04-19 17:51:45,244 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: '/var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.24-2ubuntu1_i386.deb': 'il sottoprocesso nuovo script di post-removal ha restituito un codice di errore 13406:01
MidMarkwhat I have to do?06:01
apokryphosheh, keb 1.0.1 released already :o06:01
HobbseeMidMark: give us an english translation, first off...06:01
MidMarksubprocess of the new script post-removal returned error code 13406:02
giangyHobbsee: "the subprocess of the new script post-removal returned error code 134"06:02
giangyops :-)06:02
MidMarkseems bug #10201106:02
ubotuMalone bug 102011 in samba "Update to feisty beta fails with samba installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10201106:02
MidMarkproblem now dist-upgrade is stopped :(06:03
ScottKThanks.  Confirmed the bug...06:03
nixternalRiddell: I will take a look when I get free time06:03
MidMarkScottK: thanx now can you say what can I do? :)06:04
ScottKI'd suggest doing what they suggest in the bug06:04
Hobbseefind out what the post-removal code 134 is, too06:04
ScottKuninstall samba first and then reinstall after the upgrade06:05
MidMarkScottK: ok but then I close dist-upgrade and then? open adept?06:05
nixternalheh, they have taken down all of the ubuntu servers06:06
ScottKMidMark: I'd stop the upgrade and then remove samba, yes.  No guarantees.06:07
nixternalI can't connect to them from school06:07
nixternalubuntu.com and kubuntu.org are working now06:07
nixternalplanet is dead06:07
MidMarkScottK: mmm weird06:08
MidMarkanyway dist-upgrade should continue to finish work and not stop at the first error :(06:08
ScottKRight.  You can't cancel out in the middle of it, can you..06:09
MidMarkanyway not there isn't other solutions ......06:10
imbrandondanimo, publish me hehehehe06:10
MidMarkyeah adept cannot uninstall nothing, another process is running over the database06:12
MidMarkany suggestion?06:12
Jucato!adeptfix | MidMark06:13
ubotuMidMark: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:13
MidMarkJucato: yes but the rest of the installation?06:14
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kwwiiRiddell: apparently adept manager died while it was updating06:22
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kwwiiRiddell: erm, wait...it was simply stuck on something, now the download is continuing06:22
ScottK Bug #107727 is the only adept related bug I've seen come in so far.06:24
ubotuMalone bug 107727 in update-manager "Upgrade Tool crashed upon Feisty Ugrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10772706:24
nixternalRiddell: would it be OK if I built the HTML outside of the updated docs package to 1) make it smaller and 2) make it build quicker? or should we just continue running a Makefile in the rules?06:24
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Riddellnixternal: that would seem inelegant06:25
Riddellhow would it make it smaller?06:25
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nixternalwell, it wouldn't really make it smaller, strike that one, but we wouldn't have to run the Makefile which is what takes forever (8 hours) during the build06:26
Riddellyou'd still have to build the html from the docbook, which would take just as long06:26
Riddellif there's a faster way to do it, change the makefile to do that06:26
nixternalnot locally06:26
nixternalI can build all of the HTML in less than 5 minutes just by running 'make all'06:27
nixternalpbuilder is what takes forever on the makefile06:27
Riddellwhat is it doing different?06:28
nixternalI have no clue06:28
nixternalit is doing nothing different06:28
nixternaldebian/rules sends kdeb to the Makefile which is the same as 'make all'06:28
nixternalbut for some reason pbuilder does it so slow06:29
Riddellis it the lack of internet connection?06:29
nixternalyou know, it very well could be06:29
nixternalbecause of the --xinclude flag06:29
nixternalI think that is what I pinpointed the issue to06:29
nixternalI need to study that flag a little more and see just how necessary it is06:30
nixternalbecause 50% of our translation don't even have a $$cc.xml in the xml includes anyways06:30
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jdongso.... shall k3b 1.0.1 be attempted as a "SRU"?06:30
nixternaljdong: you are an SRU freak!06:31
jdongwhy thank you :)06:31
RiddellSRU is for specific bug fixes only, not new releases06:31
Jucatobtw, about K3b... it has a sort of misleading error message if libk3b2-mp3 isn't installed06:31
jdongthere's an interesting list of bugfixes06:31
nixternalJucato: don't try and use the mp3 stuff then ;)06:32
nixternalI mean they call the encoder lame for a reason06:32
jdongnixternal: spoken like a true GNU citizen :)06:32
Jucatonixternal: even with LAME installed06:32
nixternalhahah, I have people believing the Gutsy toolchain is good to and they can dist-upgrade from feisty06:32
jdongJucato: does RMS pop up goatse style?06:32
Jucatoer I just misinterpreted your message06:32
nixternalChicago people are going to hate me06:33
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Jucatonixternal: I meant, the error message/popup always shows up when you start K3b, and it talks about libmad when what we use for burning mp3's to audio cd is libk3b2-mp306:33
jdong_ow! my ipw3945d!06:34
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nixternalI haven't noticed the error at all, but then again I don't burn audio to cd anymore06:35
Jucatonixternal: you don't get a popup when you run k3b?06:35
JucatoMP3 Audio Decoder not found... when in fact it's looking for an encoder afaik...06:36
nixternaland I ran K3b all day so far06:36
Jucatoweird... :(06:36
nixternalI was running it this morning on a fresh install of Feisty as a matter of fact and never noticed it06:37
Jucatoah ok.. must be me :)06:37
nixternalof course it is you ;p06:37
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nixternalI gotta have that!06:40
nixternalimaging that running Kubuntu06:40
Jucatowth!?!?! I want that!!!06:40
nixternalthat thing is sleek06:41
Jucatohm.. do we have a wiki page with instructions on how to upgrade to feisty using the dist-upgrade tool?06:41
nixternalholy cow man06:42
nixternalUbuntu mirror at the uni has the network so bogged down06:42
yuriyis that holy cow-man or holy cow, man?06:42
nixternalall of the above06:42
jdong_nixternal: well I'm seeding the torrent at 1MB/s or so :D06:44
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nixternalwe have 4 seeds going at 3MB/s right now and we can't do anything else in the lab06:46
jdong_nixternal: lol06:46
nixternalooh, 6, someone decided to seed Ubuntu06:46
Lathiatthe torrents getting bigger :/06:46
nixternalhaha, I run  the shop, so I told them get the KUbuntu seeds going06:46
Lathiatwhen i started it was 400 seeds 2500 peers06:46
Lathiatnwo its 2000 seeds 4600 peers :/06:46
Lathiatat least the seed/peer ratio is going up06:46
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nixternalerr, our seeds died out when using Piratebay as an extra announcer06:47
nixternalPiratebay pulled it06:47
=== jdong_ should swithc over to a wired link
jdong_wonder if it's obnoxious to be seeding at 1MB/s over student center wifi06:47
nixternaldamn, you get that for campus wifi?06:48
nixternaldude, we get 40k on a super good day06:48
jdong_we also get all public IP's on wifi06:48
nixternalbut we have 4 dedicated OC3 lines to our lab06:48
Lathiatits liek that in .au cept only traffic within our city is free06:48
Lathiatintl traffic is like06:48
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nixternalbut I think the campus only uses a single OC48 sonet06:48
Lathiatbut i used to seed local traffic at 1M/s over wifi06:48
Lathiatwith a live ip06:48
Lathiatthat was great :)06:49
nixternaloh lord, I have people thinking they know what the toolchain is and that it is out06:50
nixternalnow that is scary06:50
apokryphosRiddell lists his mobile number on the release page :O06:54
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Riddellsurprisingly few06:55
Riddella couple of journalists, a few companies wanting to sell CDs or machines and wondering about trademarks, a magazine wanting to put it on their cover and three or four calls for help06:56
Jucatonot everyone has the money to make international calls to the great Riddell-man :)06:56
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_Simecongrats everyone on the Feisty release!06:58
Jucatooh yeah, late congrats! :)06:59
Riddell_Sime: :)07:00
_SimeRiddell: thanks for the article BTW07:00
_Simefeisty is a good solid release  IMHO07:01
Riddelllets make feisty LTS and go with KDE 4 for gusty07:01
nixternalit isn't a flatulent gibbon ;p07:04
_Simebit of a bummer that Thunderbird 2.0 came out today.07:10
nixternalhaha, Ubuntu did the button to install fglrx and what not, and it is freezing everyones boxes here07:10
ScottKIsn't that what it's for?07:12
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apokryphosRiddell: just remembered that mandriva released (yesterday?), which had k3b 1.0 (for that dot story)08:20
apokryphosawesome about the calls though; happy magazines are putting kubuntu out there and not just ubuntu :P08:22
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apokryphosmmm, food :). /me out for a bit08:25
nixternalactually K3b in Mandriva is 1.0.1svn08:25
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nixternalso they have one upped us08:27
nixternallet's attack!08:27
gnomefreaknixternal: where is the upgrade to feisty page for kubuntu?08:29
kwwii https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades08:29
kwwiithe update on my machine is still running :p08:30
kwwiithe servers appear to be a *bit* slow today for some strange reason08:30
nixternalit is there somewhere08:30
nixternaloh ya, linked to the wiki08:30
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gnomefreakty kwwii08:32
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TimArmstrongHey everyone08:36
danimokwwii: using a mirror?08:36
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_StefanS_wow.. there's some activity on the ubuntu.com repos :)08:39
Riddellapokryphos: it did?08:39
apokryphosRiddell: so says distrowatch, though nixternal says 1.0.1svn, which seems a little crazy (what are their release schedules like)08:41
apokryphosmmm, very nice kubuntu.org release image though 8)08:41
apokryphosRiddell: are you going to attend the party in London?08:42
Riddellapokryphos: not sure yet08:42
apokryphosit's pretty soon, but sabdfl's gonna be there it seems; might go 8)08:43
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nixternalapokryphos: it is on the mandriva release notes page08:45
nixternalfor spring 2007.108:45
=== apokryphos just reading about their new shareholder
rbrunhuberDoes the xorg ati driver support xrandr 1.2?08:46
apokryphosI guess they're not on the way out08:46
apokryphosnixternal: thanks08:46
nixternalrbrunhuber: yes it does, I was using it to flip my lcd the other night08:46
rbrunhubernixternal: so why is xrandr on my up to date feisty box reporting xrandr 1.1?08:47
lucas_nixternal: Is there any package of xserver1.3 for feisty ?08:47
nixternalerr, oh I don't know about the version08:47
nixternalI just know that xrandr on feisty with ati works :) sorry08:47
lucas_rbrunhuber: xrandr 1.2 comes with xserver 1.308:47
lucas_and is schedeuled ofr may08:48
nixternal!info krandr08:48
lucas_for may08:48
ubotuPackage krandr does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas08:48
nixternalI install the kde thing with xrandr and it pulls in everything for me08:48
lucas_ubotu: yes but it is installed anyway08:48
Riddellapokryphos: tomorrow surely08:49
nixternalI have 1.0.2 actually listed for feisty08:49
lucas_nixternal: me too and only xrandr 1.2 is ready for output hotplug08:49
nixternalOK, class time08:50
apokryphosRiddell: the event? Yeah08:50
lucas_nixternal: good time then08:50
apokryphosor do you mean you're certainly going to tomorrow's?08:50
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rbrunhuberthe servers are really really busy. apt-get update takes ages ... Seems feisty is a real succes ...08:52
Riddellapokryphos: not certain at all, depends on mood of girlfriend08:52
apokryphosheh, I know exactly what you mean 8)08:53
gnomefreakexpensive dinner by candle light and you should have few problems ;)08:53
rbrunhuberOr not in mood -> no longer girlfriend. :-)08:54
=== gnomefreak had to do that to make up for big mistake so i know it works
rbrunhubernixternal: Do you have a development version of x then?08:56
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_StefanS_heh archive.ubuntu.com is so busy I can't even download the kubuntu release announcement :)08:57
=== ScottK is trying to get a patch done for security and can't even get the source....
Riddelltry launchpad08:59
ScottKGood point08:59
ScottKWill do08:59
_StefanS_maybe someone should have rented some extra bandwidth ..08:59
rbrunhuberis there no single x11proto package without -dev?08:59
marseillaiRiddell: and you guys have done a good job for this release. I'll try to contribute more for next release and really appreciate your work.09:02
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Riddellmarseillai: formidable09:15
marseillaiRiddell: i've already package smplayer09:16
marseillaiand we'll try to work for REVU09:16
marseillaiRiddell: can i just troll a little and say that i would be more happy if cannonical take more attention on Kubuntu ....09:17
Riddellmarseillai: like your government do you mean? :)09:18
marseillaimore than that09:18
marseillaiour governement just "give" a job to tonio09:18
Riddellwell they have to do something about these unemployed people sponging off the state :)09:19
marseillaiseveral else people could work for cannonical and make kubuntu greatest09:19
marseillaiRiddell: i'm just saying that Kubuntu is doing as well as ubuntu does with less people payed by cannonical! of course it's because kubuntu guys are better! ;)09:20
Riddellwe like to think so :)09:21
kwwiiRiddell: not sure why (time out or so I guess) but the updater complained about not being able to download a file09:21
marseillaiso! going to package manslide and learn CDBS09:22
Riddellkwwii: what did it do?09:22
kwwiiRiddell: it said it could download a file in a pop-up and said I should start the update again, then it quit09:23
kwwiiRiddell: and now when I tried again it says it cannot download the release announcement09:23
kwwiibut that pop-up allows me to retry (doing so now)09:23
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kwwiiarchive.ubuntu.com seems to take to long to reply09:24
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kwwiithe third time I tried it, it found the release announcement09:24
kwwiithis sounds like more of a server problem than the updater itself09:25
kwwiithe file that it failed on the first time was #34 of 3709:26
kwwiithis time it is actually doing the upgrade though...I'll let you know if it worked when it is done09:27
Riddellyes, it's a server issue, but it would be good if it could recover better09:27
kwwiiRiddell: the release notes part had a retry button but the other one did not09:28
kwwiilol, it says it will take another 4 hours and 55 minutes09:30
_StefanS_Riddell: do you know if thunderbird 2.0 be available as an update in the future ?09:32
Riddell_StefanS_: I expect it'll be in backports at some point09:32
_StefanS_uhm ok09:32
ScottKkwwii: It's time estimate is pretty optimistic based on my experience.09:46
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kwwiiScottK: yeah, it jumps around a lot depending on the current speed as well09:48
kwwiiif I was a newbie I probably would have given up a long time ago09:48
ScottKI'me about 6 hours in and it says 3 to go yet.09:49
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tomacongrats on the release guys. well done!09:58
_StefanS_kwwii: hey, its okay if you dont have time to do that graphic :)09:59
_StefanS_I just hate being ignored :)10:00
kwwii_StefanS_: sorry about that, I was busier than expected these last weeks10:00
_StefanS_kwwii: yep I understand, just say so - thats okay :)10:00
kwwii_StefanS_: I might still have time to do it on the weekend10:01
kwwiiI'll definitely let you know10:01
_StefanS_kwwii: I would be really glad if you could.10:01
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soulriderhello! grats to everyone for the release!!10:14
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marseillaifdoving: i have an apps wich depends or xine OR mplayer i want it to depends on xine i have to add libxine1 in Depends ?10:34
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ryanakcahmm... we can only ask for 3 kubuntu CDs from shipit, but 10 for ubuntu?10:54
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marseillaiis there someone who can help me for my first CDBS package ?11:00
marseillaifdoving: :$11:02
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manchicken__Do I have to do anything fancy now that feisty has been released?12:00
manchicken__I'm thinking not.12:00
ajmitchdance around in circles?12:00
manchicken__ajmitch: Drink to my heart's content is more along the lines of what I had in mind.12:00
ajmitchthere is that option12:00
Riddellbug triage!12:05
Riddellnixternal: I see a lack of feisty story on fridge, might be a gap in the market for a "Kubuntu Feisty Released" story12:13

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