[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107581 in Ubuntu "cyrillic fonts in emacs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107581
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107582 in compiz (main) "broken windows with compiz after logoff" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107582
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107583 in Ubuntu "kdeinit failure after firegl install in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107583
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107584 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport]  whirlpinch.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107584
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107585 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport]  shadow_bevel.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107585
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107586 in freeguide (multiverse) "freeguide dosn't load as Cannot load AWT toolkit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107586
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #107588 in python-defaults (main) "python crash using wx.ListCtrl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107588
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #107589 in network-manager (main) "Network connection drops intermittently in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107589
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107590 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107590
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107592 in Ubuntu "Upgrade to Feisty deleted monitor refresh rates, not being able to log-in graphically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107592
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107594 in encfs (universe) "encfs does not work with sshfs in feisty AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107594
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107595 in Ubuntu "Windows icons (icon on titlebar) get resized on maximizing/restoring windows on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107595
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107596 in kdeedu (main) "Kstars: Stop slewing west with Celestron scope does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107596
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107597 in network-manager (main) "Can't create wireless network is there is no wireless networks found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107597
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107598 in network-manager (main) "No one-click method to activate saved manual network profile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107598
[02:03] <Dazog> i was told to come here
[02:03] <Dazog> to report a bug
[02:03] <Dazog> for the 0415 cdimage
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107599 in slab (universe) "on side panel "computer" label in wrong direction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107599
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107600 in helix-player (universe) "helix failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107600
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107601 in Ubuntu "video output corruption with nvidia driver and not with nv driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107601
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107602 in gcc-4.1 (main) "g++ 4.0 and 4.1 compile non-c++ code" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107602
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107603 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Ricoh card reader R5C822 does not work AFTER resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107603
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #107605 in gnome-keyring (main) "formatting code showing in "allow access" dialogue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107605
[03:40] <Jh00> Hi there, anyone awaken? I was wondering about helping searching for bugs, but I still have some questions... Maybe someone could lend me a hand?
[03:42] <Jh00> hi?
[03:43] <ScottK> Hello
[03:43] <ScottK> !question | Jh00
[03:43] <ubotu> Jh00: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:43] <Jh00> :-)
[03:43] <Jh00> thanks
[03:44] <Jh00> well, I really wanted to contribute to ubuntu
[03:44] <ScottK> OK
[03:44] <Jh00> and although I dont have a great deal of free time, and even though Im not a programer, I consider myself a power computer user...
[03:44] <ScottK> Bug triaging is a good way to start.
[03:44] <Jh00> so, I was wondering if I could somehow help the team to at least test the bugs which are already filled
[03:44] <ScottK> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[03:45] <ScottK> Have a look there.  More help is always welcome.
[03:45] <Jh00> I was looking at some bugs, and found lots of them that dont contain enough information, or are probably out of date
[03:45] <ScottK> Right.
[03:45] <ScottK> Those are good ones to work on.
[03:45] <Jh00> I read that link already, I just dont know if I was already ready to do it...
[03:45] <ScottK> OK
[03:45] <Jh00> if I AM (sorry for the lack of good english)
[03:45] <ScottK> Not a problem.
[03:46] <Jh00> I was reading some bugs and testing them myself, and posting comments... But I dont know how useful it could be
[03:46] <ScottK> That is very useful.
[03:46] <Jh00> Im affraid of flooding launchpad with useless coments that wouldnt help at all
[03:46] <ScottK> If there is more information needed to reproduce a bug, ask the questions to get it there.
[03:46] <Jh00> for example, I was writing comments like "I can confirm this on Feisty RC 20070415 etc."
[03:46] <ScottK> Set the bug to needs info and assign it to the reporter.  This is very valuable.
[03:47] <ScottK> When you do that, do you set the bug to confirmed?
[03:47] <Jh00> hmmm, but do I have power to set it as  "Need info" or should I be somehow promoted to a "greater" hierarchical level?
[03:47] <ScottK> Let's check....
[03:47] <Jh00> nope, I thought that to change the priority/situation etc , I needed special access
[03:47] <ScottK> What's your launchpad ID?
[03:48] <Jh00> hmm
[03:48] <Jh00> I guess it is JlioAlexandrino
[03:49] <Jh00> Have a look at my entries and tell me what you think...
[03:49] <ScottK> I found it.
[03:51] <ScottK> Bug #107354 looks good to me.
[03:51] <ubotu> Malone bug 107354 in gdesklets-data "gDesklets desklet outputing tons of error msgs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107354
[03:51] <ScottK> I can't confirm it because I use Kubuntu and not Ubuntu, but it looks like a good report.
[03:52] <ScottK> Below where it says "Affects", it says gDesklets-data (Ubuntu).
[03:52] <ScottK> Jh00: Click on that and tell me what happens?
[03:53] <Jh00> let me see
[03:53] <shooters> ScottK: everyone can confirm any bug... you need to be part of ubuntu-qa to set importance though
[03:54] <Jh00> loading...
[03:55] <Jh00> ok, a new form has loaded after I clicked gDesklets-data
[03:55] <ScottK> You should be able to change status (as shooters said).
[03:55] <Jh00> there is a drop down text box with the status flags
[03:55] <ScottK> That is where you mark bugs confirmed.
[03:56] <ScottK> This is important.
[03:56] <Jh00> but is it ethical to change it to "Confirmed" even though Im the only reporter?
[03:56] <ScottK> No
[03:56] <ScottK> Not in this case.
[03:56] <ScottK> Just showing you how.
[03:56] <Jh00> ah I see
[03:56] <ScottK> Now looking at Bug #97109, I see you commented on that.
[03:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 97109 in gdesklets-data "Gdesklets doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97109
[03:56] <Jh00> so, suppose I find another bug that I can reproduce here. Even if Im the second reporter, should I set it to "confirmed" ?
[03:56] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:57] <ScottK> One thing I notice in your comment on the second bug is that you are using Beryl.
[03:57] <Jh00> loading
[03:57] <ScottK> You didn't mention that in your original report.
[03:57] <ScottK> This is a signficant factor.
[03:57] <Jh00> ah, but when I tried that first bug, I was using metacity
[03:57] <ScottK> OK.
[03:57] <Jh00> I tried it with both, just to make sure that it wouldnt be the case
[03:57] <ScottK> That's important too.
[03:58] <ScottK> Very good.
[03:58] <ScottK> shooters: He's read it.
[03:58] <Jh00> indeed
[03:58] <shooters> good...
[03:58] <Jh00> I just dont want to mess things up
[03:58] <ScottK> Understand.
[03:58] <ScottK> Asking here is good.
[03:59] <Jh00> so, in bug Bug #97109 in gdesklets-data (Ubuntu), I couldnt confirm it
[03:59] <Jh00> I tried to follow the steps to reproduce the bug, but I couldnt.
[03:59] <Jh00> Now I wonder:
[03:59] <Jh00> since I may dont use the same hardware as that user, it doesnt mean the bug doesnt exist at all...
[03:59] <Jh00> "since I may NOT", I meant
[04:00] <Jh00> so I should leave that bug as it is, am I right?
[04:00] <ScottK> Yes.
[04:00] <ScottK> Much easier to confirm a bug exists than that it doesn't.
[04:00] <Jh00> I thought so
[04:00] <Jh00> as I told before, I may not be a power linux user, but I pretty much know how chaotic a "malfunction" may be...
[04:01] <ScottK> You might leave a comment in 97109 that it might be related to 107354 and also the other way around.
[04:01] <Jh00> ah, I see.
[04:01] <ScottK> That way even though you aren't sure they are a duplicate, you've given someone with more experience who comes after a good hint.
[04:01] <Jh00> good idea!
[04:01] <ScottK> Looking for duplicates is very important too.
[04:02] <ScottK> When duplicates start to pile up against a bug, the more developers will pay more attention and have more information gathered together.
[04:02] <Jh00> yes, I read about that
[04:02] <Jh00> I dont think that would be that difficult.
[04:02] <ScottK> Generally it's not.
[04:02] <Jh00> I searched for "gaim" on launchpad and found a couple of bugs that seemed similar
[04:02] <ScottK> I think that your two bugs we've been discussing are probably duplicate, but I'm not sure.
[04:03] <ScottK> What bugs?
[04:03] <ScottK> If you do Bug # and the number, the bot will pull up a link for us.
[04:03] <Jh00> I dont remember now, Ive been tweaking with launchpad for a good time before deciding to step up
[04:03] <ScottK> Sure.
[04:03] <ScottK> I'll be here for a bit.  Just use my nick in the message and it'll flag me to come back here and look.
[04:04] <ScottK> We'll see if you are right.
[04:04] <Jh00> ok
[04:04] <Jh00> but mostly important...
[04:04] <Jh00> I found at least 4 bugs by searching for "gaim" that were pretty old or lacking basic information
[04:05] <Jh00> so I was wondering: these bugs will probably stay here for a good time
[04:05] <Jh00> maybe I could help somehow
[04:05] <shooters> Jh00: there are a lot of bugs that needs to be cleaned up...
[04:05] <ScottK> Jh00: You should also join the bugsquad: https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[04:05] <Jh00> thats when I thought that maybe I could try to reproduce those bugs and make some difference, but I thought that to do so, I would need to apply to a position in the bugsquad, and maybe thats too much for someone who isnt that "enlightened"
[04:05] <ScottK> Jh00: Give us an example.
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107607 in Ubuntu "disk mount stores impossible mount point" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107607
[04:06] <Jh00> let me see
[04:06] <ScottK> Not at all.
[04:06] <Jh00> this one, for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/72204
[04:06] <ubotu> Malone bug 72204 in gaim "Gaim crashed while sending jpg on msn (msn_session_find_slplink)" [High,Confirmed] 
[04:06] <Jh00> ops, forget it, that one has comments....
[04:07] <Jh00> let me try another one
[04:08] <Jh00> this one, for example:
[04:08] <Jh00> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/23693
[04:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 23693 in gaim "gaim should be able to turn on an away message when xscreensaver activates" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] 
[04:08] <ScottK> OK.  BTW, 72000 bugs aren't very old.
[04:08] <Jh00> I havent yet tried to reproduce it, but it is quite old
[04:09] <ScottK> Note that that one is a "Wishlist" bug.
[04:09] <shooters> #56266 : old one to be cleaned up
[04:09] <Jh00> and no one seems to have tried to reproduce it with the lastest version.
[04:09] <shooters> bug #56266
[04:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 56266 in Ubuntu "ethernet configured but not working on dapper 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56266
[04:09] <ScottK> That means they want a feature added.
[04:09] <ScottK> Those often stay open for a long time.
[04:09] <Jh00> yes, but maybe the feature is already implemented - in which case it should be closed - or either it isnt implemented - in which case someone should point out that with the current version, the feature still doesnt exist.
[04:10] <Jh00> that what I thought.
[04:10] <ScottK> shooters: Unless you have the same card as that guy, you really can't do much with it.
[04:10] <ScottK> Jh00: Yes
[04:10] <shooters> ScottK: it's a breezy/dapper, we leave them open forever?
[04:10] <ScottK> One useful thing to do for old bugs is to see if they've been reported in the upstream bug tracker.
[04:10] <Jh00> in the other example (bug 56266) , maybe someone could flag it as "Need Info", so someone could test it again with Feisty and see if the problem is still there, am I right?
[04:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 56266 in Ubuntu "ethernet configured but not working on dapper 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56266
[04:11] <shooters> ScottK: shouldn't we ask him if the problem was solved -> to edgy -> feisty?
[04:11] <ScottK> shooters: I reasonable question, but particularly with Dapper, since it's LTS, don't just assume the reporter has upgraded.
[04:12] <ScottK> As it happens, Gigabit ethernet is rather famously poorly supported in Linux kernels until recently, so it' s probably valid
[04:13] <Jh00> what about "Wishilist", should it be flaged as "Confirmed" or just let it be?
[04:14] <shooters> ScottK: that bug has no package assigned and is quite old, how likely is someone will pick it up?
[04:14] <ScottK> Have a look at this.  I searched on the model number of his LAN card: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=88E8001&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[04:15] <ScottK> It looks like it can probably be duped to one of the kernel bugs that were fixed in Edgy (2.6.17).
[04:15] <Jh00> hmmmm
[04:15] <Jh00> makes sense, I got your thinking
[04:15] <ScottK> One trick in Launchpad is that bugs that have dupes against them, can't be dupes.
[04:16] <ScottK> So, go through a stack like that and decide which ones relate to the same issue.
[04:16] <ScottK> Then pick the best one (It'll be one of the fix committed ones I hope) and dupe all the others to that one.
[04:16] <Jh00> yeah, that is mentioned on the BugTrack info page
[04:17] <Jh00> pick the newer/more complete
[04:17] <Jh00> now, look at this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/66385
[04:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 66385 in gaim "Gaim pops up many popups for the same error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[04:17] <Jh00> how on earth could any developer try to trace back that bug
[04:17] <Jh00> there is no version information, and the user didnt point out which error messages were displayed
[04:18] <ScottK> Yes.
[04:18] <ScottK> There is a version in a comment though
[04:18] <Jh00> I think that, even though  the bug may exist, but that report wont be able to produce any good result
[04:18] <ScottK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/66385/comments/4
[04:18] <ubotu> Malone bug 66385 in gaim "Gaim pops up many popups for the same error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[04:19] <Jh00> yes, I see that he later mentioned the version, but nothing about the actual error messages
[04:19] <ScottK> See if you can replicate the general situation...  Gaim pops up an error window, don't close it, and see if it pops another.
[04:19] <Jh00> and the bug is a little old, so I wonder who else would find it if he has problems to either confirm or deny it
[04:20] <ScottK> What I expect you will find is that this is the way Gaim works.
[04:20] <Jh00> this is the kind of doubt that I expected to discuss here so I can make things right
[04:20] <ScottK> He want's a design change.
[04:20] <ScottK> Design change = Wishlist and should be filed upstream.
[04:20] <ScottK> So, to be complete, you'd replicate the situation as best you can.
[04:21] <ScottK> and then mark it confirmed.
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107608 in gtkpod (universe) "crashed when opening.  Fresh Kubuntu install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107608
[04:21] <ScottK> Then go to the Gaim bug tracker and file a bug there and then link them on LP.
[04:21] <ScottK> Someone in ubuntu-qa (like maybe me) will come along and mark it wishlist.
[04:21] <ScottK> Then we wait and see what Gaim does with it.
[04:21] <Jh00> hmmmm I see
[04:21] <shooters> ScottK: Is there anything that has been planned for the 27,000+ open bugs and increasing?
[04:22] <ScottK> More volunteers and more work.
[04:22] <ajmitch> most people helping out are just volunteers
[04:22] <Jh00> let me try to find another example to learn how to proceed (hope Im not boring you guys)
[04:22] <ScottK> One of the reasons though that the bug count is going up is that we now have automatic crash reporting.
[04:23] <shooters> I know, neither am I... but the # of bugs opened > # of bugs closed/fixed... at some point, open bugs will become out of control. no?
[04:23] <ScottK> This is why finding dupes is a very important job.
[04:23] <ajmitch> ScottK: who, me? ;)
[04:23] <ScottK> Yeah.
[04:24] <ajmitch> there are also a lot of old bugs that may or may not be cloed by new upstream versions of software
[04:24] <Jh00> thats what I thought...
[04:25] <Jh00> maybe now, that Feisty is on the verge of release, I could try to reproduce some old bugs
[04:25] <Jh00> and mark them... Fixed?
[04:25] <ScottK> Yes
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107609 in firefox (main) "the web browser crashed when I wasn't using it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107609
[04:25] <ajmitch> it's often good to ask the original reporter, and set it to needs info
[04:25] <Jh00> ah I see
[04:26] <ajmitch> & then hope that they reply
[04:26] <Jh00> look at that last bug reported...
[04:26] <Jh00> 107609...
[04:26] <Jh00> no mentioning about anything
[04:26] <Jh00> ubuntu version, firefox version, home page that was loaded, programs running ...
[04:26] <ajmitch> no, but that's what we get from apport
[04:26] <ScottK> As an example of why dupe reporting is important...  I got Bug #96090 fixed in Feisty, but only paid attention to it because of the number of dupes.
[04:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 96090 in klamav "[apport]  klamav crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96090
[04:27] <ajmitch> people just get told that something crashed, and don't know where to go from there
[04:27] <Jh00> ajmitch, ah, I see... hmm, not very helpful, is it?
[04:27] <ajmitch> Jh00: I've seen worse
[04:27] <Jh00> (not flaming, just trying to understand with a bug-fixer perspective)
[04:27] <ScottK> shooters: Are you in bugsquad?
[04:28] <shooters> ya
[04:28] <ScottK> Good.
[04:28] <shooters> but they are soooo many bugs...
[04:28] <ajmitch> shooters: just start drinking from the firehose :)
[04:28] <ScottK> Why don't you go clean up that gigabit ethernet mess I pointed at earlier...
[04:29] <Jh00> How do you point out a link to the first dupe?
[04:29] <Jh00> I mean, is there any code like, for example, phpBB ?
[04:29] <Jh00> [bug] #[/bug]  for example
[04:30] <shooters> ScottK: I've start doing a cleanup of old bugs without package assigned to them...
[04:30] <ScottK> No, there's a spot in the menu on the left.
[04:30] <ajmitch> Jh00: 'mark as duplicate' in the menu
[04:30] <shooters> ScottK: are you using bughelper?
[04:31] <ScottK> No.  I just point and click.
[04:32] <shooters> Is that program used a lot?
[04:32] <ScottK> Dunno.
[04:32] <Jh00> thanks ajmitch
[04:32] <Jh00> let me see...
[04:33] <ScottK> Another good catgory to reject (but be nice) is people who file bugs on stuff that isn't from Ubuntu repositories.
[04:33] <ScottK> We don't support that.
[04:33] <Jh00> hmmm let me see
[04:34] <Jh00> BTW, is there a way to filter all the bugs affecting a specified packet? For example, instead of searching for "gaim", just clicking a "gaim" category?
[04:34] <Jh00> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/105037
[04:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 105037 in aptitude "[apport]  aptitude crashed with signal 7l" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[04:35] <Jh00> look at that one
[04:35] <Jh00> quoting: Binary package hint: aptitude
[04:35] <Jh00> after running automatix on feisty
[04:36] <ScottK> Have a look now.
[04:37] <Jh00> Ahhh, rejected!
[04:39] <Jh00> what if, lets say, you made a mistake by setting it as "Rejected"
[04:39] <Jh00> is there any chance that your decision would be reviewed?
[04:39] <Jh00> or the bug report is lost forever?
[04:40] <ScottK> No.  It's not deleted, it just doesn't come up in default searches.
[04:41] <Jh00> ops, I cant find how to reject another bug, (this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/diveintopython/+bug/90592 )
[04:41] <ubotu> Malone bug 90592 in diveintopython "upgrade using cd from 6.10 failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[04:42] <ajmitch> click on the bug status "diveintopython (Ubuntu)"
[04:42] <ajmitch> which has the > beside it
[04:42] <ajmitch> you can then change the status to 'rejected'
[04:43] <Jh00> Ahhh, nice, it worked, although it isnt very intuitive - maybe I will fill a wishlist for launchpad also :-)
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107610 in gnome-panel (main) "time, recycle and shutdown panels icons are in the wrong location after a screen resolution change." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107610
[04:46] <ScottK> Jh00: You were to slow.  I got that one already...
[04:46] <Jh00> how do you know???
[04:46] <ajmitch> ScottK: aw let new people get them :)
[04:46] <ScottK> Refresh your page.
[04:46] <Jh00> ops, you mean, the automatix one?
[04:46] <ScottK> Yeah
[04:46] <ajmitch> ScottK: you basically duplicated his comment
[04:47] <ScottK> Ah man, then I guess he got it first...
[04:47] <ajmitch> Jh00 commented about 4 minutes before you did
[04:47] <Jh00> lol
[04:47] <ajmitch> you lose
[04:47] <Jh00> and you copied and pasted my reply, thats not fair
[04:47] <Jh00> ;-)
[04:48] <ScottK> Weird.  That's what I put in there word for word...
[04:48] <ScottK> Maybe an LP bug or a really weird co-incidence.
[04:48] <Jh00> hehe
[04:49] <ScottK> I think I got all the automatix ones that needed closing (a couple seemed valid based on other comments).
[04:49] <Jh00> ScottK and ajmitch, your help was very appreciated, thanks!
[04:49] <ScottK> You're welcome.  Your contribution is appreciated.
[04:49] <Jh00> I will try to find some other bugs/dups and report here to see if Im working alright
[04:50] <Jh00> just to make sure
[04:51] <ScottK> I do need to get to bed.  Good luck.
[04:51] <Jh00> thank you!
[04:51] <Jh00> g'night!
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107611 in xfce (universe) "custom created quick launcher icons on desktop randomly disappear yet still show up in desktop folder." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107611
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107612 in cvs (main) "cvs crash under certain tag in options file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107612
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107613 in firefox (main) "Just hang withou notice or reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107613
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107616 in Ubuntu "Poor security defaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107616
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107617 in ktorrent (main) "when ktorrent starts up at system startup (I have the sys tray icon enabled), the app crashes " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107617
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107620 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107620
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107621 in ubiquity (main) "6.06 LTS Installer crashed on MacBook Pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107621
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107625 in python-f2py (universe) "python-f2py should depend on python-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107625
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107627 in edgy-gdm-themes (universe) "Take all the memory when xnest uses 1x1 geometry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107627
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107629 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107629
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107630 in avahi (main) "avahi-daemon fail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107630
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107632 in pgadmin3 (universe) "[apport]  pgadmin3 crashed with SIGSEGV in wxWindowBase::CaptureMouse()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107632
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107633 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Dell Inspiron 8200 freezes after ~5 mins of work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107633
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107636 in Ubuntu "wifi adapter not resumed after hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107636
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #107637 in Ubuntu "Crashed the forum I was using at the time." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107637
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107639 in Ubuntu "/etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh doesn't mount nfs mounts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107639
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107641 in Ubuntu "possible error in sources.list manpage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107641
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #107643 in rdesktop (main) "rdesktop segfaults after xlib11 updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107643
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107644 in kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts (main) "Kubuntu package menu disappears after restoring default KDE profiles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107644
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107645 in f-spot (main) "feisty f-spot hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107645
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107646 in Ubuntu "nvidia kernel module has version mismatch with nvidia xorg module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107646
[10:30] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there
[10:30] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I can't find how to get a backtrace in openoffice
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107624 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (main) "In the first page with boot option menu, part of the changing characters does not shown clearly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107624
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107626 in gfxboot (main) "The chaning progress percentage characters does not shown clearly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107626
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107647 in gconf2 (main) "[apport]  gconftool-2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107647
[10:31] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I installed ooimpress-dbgsym
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #107648 in Ubuntu "The Ubuntu community is insane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107648
[10:38] <dholbach> haha
[10:38] <dholbach> oh man
[10:38] <ivoks> lol
[10:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> guys
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I even reported a backtrace in OO once
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but can't find how to do that now
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I realize there's 108 pages
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in 2 hours :)
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> there
[10:40] <ivoks> i was laughing at but 107648, not you :)
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but in the same 2 hours I would like to report the f**** backtrace
[10:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yes I know :)
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107649 in konq-kim (universe) "no se pudo instalar konq-kim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107649
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107651 in Ubuntu "timezone selection differs alternate vs gaphical install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107651
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107652 in Ubuntu "gnome stops managing windows/workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107652
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107653 in Ubuntu "ubuntu/ kubuntu 64 fails to boot on msi k9ngm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107653
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107654 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107654
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107655 in Ubuntu "opera 9.20-20070409.6ubuntu2 from edgy-commercial cannot be installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107655
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107657 in kopete (main) "Kopete + bt848 : Can't select a video standard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107657
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107658 in coreutils (main) "cut(1) dumps core" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107658
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107659 in firefox (main) "ubuntu reported firefox crash upon login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107659
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #107661 in Ubuntu "so many old library files after upgrade to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107661
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107662 in apport (main) "apport hooks included in python2.4, but code only works with 2.5" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107662
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107663 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Missing Intel Core2 CPU temperature monitor driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107663
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107665 in xmms-jack (universe) "XMMS does not connect to jackd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107665
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107664 in Ubuntu "Kmail/Kontact crashes when opening a folder for the first time using option 'go to last selected message'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107664
[12:11] <tsurc> has anyone got any info on bug #107643 its status in undecided and unconfirmed. I can confirm it and to us at least its very important
[12:11] <ubotu> Malone bug 107643 in rdesktop "rdesktop segfaults after xlib11 updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107643
[12:16] <pochu> tsurc: if you can confirm it... then go and confirm it ;)
[12:16] <tsurc> have done
[12:17] <tsurc> ;)
[12:17] <pochu> cool :)
[12:17] <tsurc> can't change importance though?
[12:17] <pochu> !info rdesktop
[12:17] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[12:17] <pochu> !importance | tsurc
[12:17] <ubotu> tsurc: You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[12:17] <tsurc> thanks ;)
[12:17] <pochu> yw
[12:17] <pochu> heya thekorn :)
[12:18] <thekorn> hey pochu !
[12:18] <coNP> heya pochu
[12:19] <pochu> hey coNP :)
[12:19] <pochu> howdy?
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107666 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Please provide dh_gtkmodules for easier merge and sync from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107666
[12:21] <tsurc> thing is I can confirm that this bug has happened to me personally, but as for fixing/taking Developer responsibility for it I simply don't have the skills. But it is really important to our school that it's fixed.
[12:22] <tsurc> any ideas?
[12:26] <coNP> tsurc: you can help us obtaining a backtrace
[12:26] <coNP> tsurc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs should provide a good start
[12:26] <tsurc> thanks ;)
[12:28] <shab> upgrade to feisty hangs while configuring(postint) xserver-org
[12:28] <shab> I am using nvidia-legacy driver
[12:28] <shab> any idea?
[12:28] <shab> help please!!
[12:28] <coNP> shab: this is *not* a support channel, try to get help on #ubuntu+1, please
[12:29] <shab> thanks coNP
[12:29] <rulus> or #ubuntu in a few minutes :)
[12:30] <coNP> :)
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107667 in kvpnc (universe) "additional network routes not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107667
[12:49] <dholbach> thekorn: heya
[12:49] <dholbach> thekorn: how did your talk go?
[12:49] <thekorn> dholbach: hi,
[12:50] <thekorn> well I think it went fine, got some positive feedback :)
[12:50] <dholbach> ROCK ON
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107668 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Setting an invalid mount point can make a removeable media unaccessible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107668
[12:51] <dholbach> thekorn: http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/attachment-cleaning.patch :-D
[12:51] <thekorn> looking...
[12:53] <thekorn> dholbach: YOU ROCK!
[12:53] <dholbach> what it does is 1) move attachments to <package>/<bugnumber>/<librariannumber>/<attachmentname> and use that attachment
[12:53] <dholbach> 2) everytime a buglist is generated from a source package, it removes the attachments that are not in that list
[12:53] <dholbach> it seemed to be the easiest solution to me
[12:54] <thekorn> you are right
[12:55] <dholbach> thekorn: I changed the BugAttachment constructor and realized that apport-retrace does not use it
[12:55] <dholbach> so we should be safe
[12:55] <dholbach> (and anyway, we'll change the API to something clever soon hopefully :))
[12:56] <thekorn> ;)
[12:56] <dholbach> i'll merge to .main
[12:56] <dholbach> so we can see how it works out
[12:56] <dholbach> my test cases worked ok
[12:56] <thekorn> sounds good
[12:57] <dholbach> ok super
[12:57] <dholbach> i'm eager to install it on the server :-)
[12:57] <thekorn> what do you think about using bughelper.main for your cron script
[12:57] <dholbach> i wanted to wait until I package the first version for gutsy
[12:57] <thekorn> ok
[12:57] <dholbach> I had another idea:
[12:57] <dholbach> what about moving the relax ng schema to bughelper-data?
[12:58] <dholbach> that way we had some kind of backwards compatibility
[12:58] <dholbach> ....we'd have....
[12:58] <thekorn> hmm,
[12:58] <thekorn> I'm fine with that
[12:58] <dholbach> we could have a bughelper.rng.0.1, bughelper.rng.0.2, ...
[12:59] <dholbach> old versions won't use any new tags, but new clue files won't kill them
[12:59] <thekorn> will write that on my TODO list
[01:00] <dholbach> we can work on that together - it'd be great to have a small patch for 0.1 so we can get it into feisty-updates
[01:00] <dholbach> daniel@vubuntu:~$ du -sh .bughelper/attachments-cache/
[01:00] <dholbach> 6,6G    .bughelper/attachments-cache/
[01:00] <dholbach> daniel@vubuntu:~$
[01:00] <dholbach> :-)
[01:01] <thekorn> wow, I "only" have 4.1G attachment cache
[01:01] <dholbach> hehe
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107669 in restricted-manager (main) "[apport]  restricted-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_icon_set_render_icon()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107669
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107670 in inkscape (main) "[apport]  inkscape crashed with SIGSEGV in ()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107670
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107671 in nautilus (main) "Emptying the Trash gives an errormessage although it is emptied." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107671
[01:01] <thekorn> did you see that asac added a new element "task" to firefox.info?
[01:01] <dholbach> oh?
[01:03] <dholbach> asac:
[01:03] <dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ bugxml -v .bughelper/packages/firefox.info
[01:03] <dholbach> Did not expect element task there
[01:03] <dholbach> .bughelper/packages/firefox.info does not validate against /usr/share/bughelper/cluefile.rng.
[01:03] <dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$
[01:03] <dholbach> asac: that breaks bughelper on the server
[01:04] <dholbach> asac: if you don't mind, I'll fix that now
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107672 in gnome-session "multiple logins by same user" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107672
[01:06] <dholbach> done
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107673 in firefox (main) "Fire Fox crashes when openning www.neo5.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107673
[01:11] <dholbach> thekorn: I think I'll start working on the relax ng version thingie in a bit and add a '<tag>' tag for testing reasons
[01:12] <thekorn> ok, I will have lunch now...
[01:12] <dholbach> enjoy it
[01:12] <dholbach> i'll have lunch after feisty release too
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107674 in Ubuntu "suspend from gnome-power-manager menu and logout button have different effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107674
[01:16] <thekorn> dholbach: hopefully you don't have to waite too long for your lunch ;)
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107675 in firefox (main) "Fire Fox crashes when openning www.neo5.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107675
[01:16] <dholbach> thekorn: I don't think so :)
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107676 in fiveam (universe) "Running with suite-name is not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107676
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #107677 in geany (universe) "geany crashes on c build" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107677
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107678 in Ubuntu "after downloading feisty i ave a problem with the new kernel 2.16.20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107678
[02:06] <ogra> wow, so quier
[02:06] <ogra> *quiet
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107679 in keep (main) "keep cannot create ftp-folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107679
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107683 in firefox (main) "Swedish translation for firefox.desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107683
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107684 in libapache2-mod-ifier (universe) "libapache2-mod-ifier:  API module structure "is garbled"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107684
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107685 in perl (main) "[apport]  perl crashed with SIGSEGV in rrd_test_error()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107685
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107686 in Ubuntu "Installation doesn't stop when clicking cancel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107686
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107687 in xfonts-scalable (main) "edgy to  feisty upgrade error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107687
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107688 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107688
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107689 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Swedish translation for .desktop files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107689
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107691 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "thunderbird 2.0 is out of the oven" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107691
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107692 in xserver-xgl (universe) "serving some tomcat application - on http request the xgl crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107692
[02:53] <mooey> aheh
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107694 in kdebase (main) "ksmserver: check for prelinking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107694
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107695 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107695
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107696 in wifi-radar (universe) "After removing wifi-radar package logging in takes long time. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107696
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107697 in wine (universe) "[apport]  wine-preloader crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107697
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107698 in language-pack-es (main) "Broken translations for control panel (Kubuntu Spanish)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107698
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107700 in openoffice.org (main) "random numbers" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107700
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107701 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107701
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107702 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  guidance-power-manager.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107702
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107703 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107703
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107706 in kdenetwork (main) "need option to disable rich text by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107706
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107707 in Ubuntu "Opera 9 (browser) crashes whrn I try to open it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107707
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107709 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107709
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107710 in hardinfo (universe) "hardinfo crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107710
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107711 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu i386 7.04 can't be installed, it dissables many things like x win." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107711
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107712 in Ubuntu "HP NX6125 fails to shutdown in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107712
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107713 in moodle (universe) "php-ldap in moodle seems a missed edpendency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107713
[04:42] <danohuiginn> no avalanche of Feisty bugs yet, then? Wonder how long it'll take for them to land.
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107714 in ubiquity (main) "installing on a usb thumb drive error, timezone apply error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107714
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107715 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-kde crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107715
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107716 in update-manager (main) "meta-release check should send pragma: no-cache" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107716
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107717 in pida (universe) "Please sync pida 0.4.4-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107717
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #107718 in rsibreak (universe) "rsibreak does not take focus when menu is shown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107718
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107719 in firefox (main) "When firefox is downloading a file, crashes and restarts the session, it deletes the previously downloaded file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107719
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107720 in Ubuntu "have no idea" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107720
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107721 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV in gx_image_end()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107721
[05:27] <bddebian> Boo
[05:28] <ScottK> Be
[05:28] <bddebian> :)
[05:29] <cypher1> bug 107720
[05:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 107720 in Ubuntu "have no idea" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107720
[05:29] <bddebian> heh
[05:29] <cypher1> strange bug lol
[05:30] <bdmurray> it's quite descriptive too
[05:30] <ScottK> It's almost as informative once you open it up.
[05:31] <cypher1> ScottK: yes :) i also just did
[05:31] <cypher1> can we reject it ?
[05:31] <ScottK> No.  Try and get more information
[05:32] <ScottK> The reporter is doing the best they can.  Don't make them feel bad for having tried
[05:32] <cypher1> ScottK: found what the problem is -- mouse flies around
[05:35] <ScottK> Does Gnome have settings for mouse sensistivity?
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #107628 in lighttpd (universe) "DoS-vulnerability in lighttpd" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107628
[05:36] <cypher1> ScottK: yes system->prefrences->mouse
[05:36] <ScottK> Then I'd suggest asking him to check that setting and see if it's wrong or if that fixes his problem.
[05:37] <cypher1> ScottK: yes
[05:37] <cypher1> ScottK: i will ask him that
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107724 in evolution (main) "[Feature]   case insensitive sorting of contacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107724
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107725 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "suspend to ram wake up  problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107725
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #107727 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade Tool crashed upon Feisty Ugrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107727
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107729 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107729
[06:13] <dholbach> thekorn: I have a patch ready for splitting out the schema - what do you think about the following convention: we have clue file version 0.2 atm and for every time we just add stuff to the schema, we increment the last number, if we change and break stuff we increment the first number - that way it will be easy to make bughelper dynamically ignore clue files it cannot act on, because the code does not support it
[06:14] <dholbach> arg
[06:14] <dholbach> now he's gone :)
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107731 in evolution-exchange (main) "Evolution Exchange "receiving option" pane has two "check for new messages in all folders"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107731
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107733 in openoffice.org (main) "Word document renders incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107733
[06:19] <ScottK> bdmurray: Should Bug #107711 be against the kernel (it looks like a free video driver problem)?
[06:19] <ubotu> Malone bug 107711 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu i386 7.04 can't be installed, it dissables many things like x win." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107711
[06:21] <bdmurray> ScottK: looking
[06:21] <ScottK> Thans
[06:21] <ScottK> Thanks...
[06:22] <bdmurray> ScottK: looks like Xorg as the video card probably isn't detected right
[06:23] <ScottK> OK.  Did you update it or should I?
[06:23] <ScottK> That makes sense
[06:25] <bdmurray> ScottK: I did not update it
[06:25] <ScottK> OK. Thanks
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107736 in gaim (main) "Gaim counts bad the news emails." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107736
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #107735 in bughelper "RFC: Make bughelper more cautious about cluefile versions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107735
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #107738 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "network-manager-pptp doesn't exists in Ubuntu!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107738
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107739 in update-manager (main) "Feisty upgrade aborts - can't install gmediaserver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107739
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107740 in Ubuntu "Hardwate detection Error on g3 PPC  loading module aec62xx Ide Driver support  " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107740
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107741 in grub (main) "update-grub manpage uses /sbin rather than /usr/sbin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107741
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107742 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install loses the selection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107742
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107743 in Ubuntu "After suspend/hibernate laptop Fn keys no longer work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107743
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107745 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107745
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107746 in adept (main) "WISHLIST: provide a way to stop and resume dist upgrade during download stage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107746
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107747 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  guidance-power-manager.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107747
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107748 in evolution (main) "Evolution hangs temporarily, for periods of up to 5 or 10 minutes, since late in the Feisty development cycle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107748
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107749 in Ubuntu "Cannot download updates through package manager." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107749
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107750 in f-spot (main) "F-spot crashes when trying to export to Web Gallery" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107750
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #107751 in Ubuntu "muting sound in mplayer causes rhythmbox to mute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107751
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #107752 in update-manager (main) "Dist-upgrade Edgy-->Feisty has incorrect URL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107752
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107753 in Ubuntu "Problem with Adept (or even apt)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107753
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107754 in compiz (main) "maximisation broken when maximize_effect is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107754
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107757 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "downloads corrupt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107757
[08:04] <qense> Would it be a good idea to create a tag for bugs that aren't in (proper) English?
[08:04] <ScottK> No
[08:04] <ScottK> Get more information and make them readable.
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #107758 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "max_cstate and laptop very slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107758
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #107759 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "The detection of display resolution is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107759
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107761 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Fiesty Kernel 2.6.20-15 Performance Lag on Athlon64" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107761
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107762 in desktop-effects (main) "Grey screen when enabling desktop effects on Desktop CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107762
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107763 in beryl-core (universe) "Beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay() on Kubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107763
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107764 in Ubuntu "The button that turns the touchpad on/off stopped work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107764
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107766 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer adds menu item the same as gnome-cups-manager's menu item" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107766
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107767 in aumix (universe) "aumix dumps core in Ubu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107767
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107769 in update-manager (main) "can't upgrade to feisty because of small space in /boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107769
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107770 in tor (universe) "not able to upgrade tor (6.10 to 7.04)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107770
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107771 in kde-guidance (main) "Machine had been off for a few days, error came up on startup.  Kubuntu only been installed on this machine a week or so.  Never seen it cause this error before" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107771
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107773 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107773
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #107772 in Ubuntu "startup and unespected blender-bin crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107772
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #107774 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel oops with pata_sis" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107774
[09:17] <salgado> has anybody seen a bug about the Mute/Volume-Up/Volume-Down keys of thinkpads stop working?
[09:19] <pochu> salgado: which any special app?
[09:19] <pochu> s/which/with/
[09:20] <salgado> no, the buttons which control the master volume (I think)
[09:21] <salgado> they're the ones close to that blue thinkvantage button of new thinkpads
[09:21] <salgado> they work just fine on 2.6.20-13 but not on -1[45] 
[09:22] <sharms> I just saw a bug on it not too long ago
[09:22] <salgado> I know there must be one, but I can't find it
[09:24] <salgado> I saw bug 100042, but the reporter seems to have forgotten about it
[09:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 100042 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Audio Controls do not function" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/100042
[09:29] <blueyed> apport-retrace in the datacenter is still paused?
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107777 in Ubuntu "No sound on Asus A6L (A6B00L) laptop" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107777
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #107778 in update-manager (main) "Failed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107778
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #107779 in adept (main) "Upgrade Tool Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107779
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107614 in sbackup "sbackup does not save config file (dup-of: 104294)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107614
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107781 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashed while changing the genre of a group of songs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107781
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107782 in restricted-manager (main) "X Crash after nVidia GeForce 5700 drivers installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107782
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107783 in firefox (main) "Embedded flash-animation covers DHTML menu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107783
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107784 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107784
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107785 in Ubuntu "feisty final: no systems for importing settings from" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107785
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #107786 in compiz (main) "switch from dekstop to console and back  black screen" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107786
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #107787 in Ubuntu "prepare partition can't create > 200Gb paritions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107787
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107790 in software-properties (main) "Software Properties crashed on adding PGP key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107790
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #107791 in padevchooser (universe) "padevchooser does not start, fails with message ** (padevchooser:12362): WARNING **: pa_browser_new() failed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107791
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107792 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107792
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107793 in Ubuntu "Created partition has errors after installing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107793
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107794 in gnome-app-install (main) "No nvidia-glx-new .desktop file in gnome-app-install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107794
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #107795 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "System doesn't boot after upgrade to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107795
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107796 in kdebase (main) "Kate + DejaVu Sans no longer works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107796
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107797 in Ubuntu "gnome-sound-properties crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107797
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #107798 in grub (main) "IDE Drive are Listed as SATA with Feisty Live CD and install causes GRUB to be improperly configured (Error 15 on boot)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107798
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107799 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107799
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107800 in Ubuntu "X does not resume after sleep/hibernate (it crashes) - Lenovo Z60 IBM Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107800
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107801 in Ubuntu "Internet Download Speed is INCREDIBLY SLOW" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107801
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #107802 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Mute on shutdown, forgets unmuted volume on reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107802
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #107803 in mail-notification (universe) "installing mail-notification-evolution causes to frees evolution " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107803
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107804 in gnome-panel (main) "dapper -> edgy -> feisty, broken icons in gnome-panel, others" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107804
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107805 in Ubuntu "Thinkpad T60p ati video card powerstate not lowered when on battery power" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107805
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107806 in pyzor (universe) "[apport]  pyzor crashed with OSError in run()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107806
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #107807 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[3c900B]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: transmit timed out/ Resetting the Tx ring pointer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107807
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107808 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV in gx_image_end()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107808
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #107809 in Ubuntu "Upgrader Application crashes on cleanup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107809
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107811 in update-manager (main) "upgrading kubuntu to version 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107811
[11:06] <yamal> looks like the post-release bug flood has begun.
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #107814 in Ubuntu "No restricted modules with Xen 2.6.19-4 kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107814
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #107813 in devmapper (main) "Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.08 (2006-07-17)(compat) and kernel driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107813
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #107815 in Ubuntu "installing using LVM does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107815
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #107816 in kdepim (main) "kmail crashes on "save as" on multiple selected attachments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107816
[11:33] <Flannel> that last one is probably related to bug 105623
[11:33] <ubotu> Malone bug 105623 in devmapper "udev rules missing from udeb" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105623
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #107817 in update-manager (main) "Fiesty upgrade MD5Sum mismatch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107817
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #107818 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107818
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #107819 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Right click near bottom right corner deletes message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107819
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #107820 in update-manager (main) "update-manager failed to install powernowd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107820
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107821 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "no sound with lenovo 3000 n100 0768FEG" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107821
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #107822 in unsermake (main) "unsermake requires python2.4 which is not listed as dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107822
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #107823 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice crashes on Insert -> Envelope" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107823
[12:05] <pochu> bug  #35375
[12:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 35375 in scorched3d "Scorched3d SIGSEGV on startup" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35375