[12:06] New bug: #107581 in Ubuntu "cyrillic fonts in emacs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107581 === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:10] New bug: #107582 in compiz (main) "broken windows with compiz after logoff" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107582 [12:16] New bug: #107583 in Ubuntu "kdeinit failure after firegl install in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107583 [12:16] New bug: #107584 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport] whirlpinch.py crashed with ImportError in ()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107584 [12:16] New bug: #107585 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport] shadow_bevel.py crashed with ImportError in ()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107585 [12:21] New bug: #107586 in freeguide (multiverse) "freeguide dosn't load as Cannot load AWT toolkit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107586 === davmor3 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:36] New bug: #107588 in python-defaults (main) "python crash using wx.ListCtrl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107588 [12:36] New bug: #107589 in network-manager (main) "Network connection drops intermittently in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107589 [12:40] New bug: #107590 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107590 === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === kal [i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === _phantom_ [n=phantom@82-46-12-56.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === blueyed_ [n=daniel@i5387DB25.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === davmor3 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] 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[n=jabba@ip216-239-73-152.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:40] New bug: #107596 in kdeedu (main) "Kstars: Stop slewing west with Celestron scope does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107596 === voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:45] New bug: #107597 in network-manager (main) "Can't create wireless network is there is no wireless networks found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107597 [01:50] New bug: #107598 in network-manager (main) "No one-click method to activate saved manual network profile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107598 === r0bby__ [n=wakawaka@cpe-24-164-167-171.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Toxicity999_ is now known as Toxicity999 === Dazog [n=hi@S01060016b6199991.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:03] i was told to come here [02:03] to report a bug [02:03] for the 0415 cdimage === caravena 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I was wondering about helping searching for bugs, but I still have some questions... Maybe someone could lend me a hand? === shooters [n=philip@modemcable101.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:42] hi? [03:43] Hello [03:43] !question | Jh00 [03:43] Jh00: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [03:43] :-) [03:43] thanks [03:44] well, I really wanted to contribute to ubuntu [03:44] OK [03:44] and although I dont have a great deal of free time, and even though Im not a programer, I consider myself a power computer user... [03:44] Bug triaging is a good way to start. [03:44] so, I was wondering if I could somehow help the team to at least test the bugs which are already filled [03:44] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [03:45] Have a look there. More help is always welcome. [03:45] I was looking at some bugs, and found lots of them that dont contain enough information, or are probably out of date [03:45] Right. [03:45] Those are good ones to work on. [03:45] I read that link already, I just dont know if I was already ready to do it... [03:45] OK [03:45] if I AM (sorry for the lack of good english) [03:45] Not a problem. [03:46] I was reading some bugs and testing them myself, and posting comments... But I dont know how useful it could be [03:46] That is very useful. [03:46] Im affraid of flooding launchpad with useless coments that wouldnt help at all [03:46] If there is more information needed to reproduce a bug, ask the questions to get it there. [03:46] for example, I was writing comments like "I can confirm this on Feisty RC 20070415 etc." [03:46] Set the bug to needs info and assign it to the reporter. This is very valuable. [03:47] When you do that, do you set the bug to confirmed? [03:47] hmmm, but do I have power to set it as "Need info" or should I be somehow promoted to a "greater" hierarchical level? [03:47] Let's check.... [03:47] nope, I thought that to change the priority/situation etc , I needed special access [03:47] What's your launchpad ID? [03:48] hmm [03:48] I guess it is JlioAlexandrino [03:49] Have a look at my entries and tell me what you think... [03:49] I found it. [03:51] Bug #107354 looks good to me. [03:51] Malone bug 107354 in gdesklets-data "gDesklets desklet outputing tons of error msgs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107354 [03:51] I can't confirm it because I use Kubuntu and not Ubuntu, but it looks like a good report. [03:52] Below where it says "Affects", it says gDesklets-data (Ubuntu). [03:52] Jh00: Click on that and tell me what happens? [03:53] let me see [03:53] ScottK: everyone can confirm any bug... you need to be part of ubuntu-qa to set importance though === ScottK is getting to that. [03:54] loading... [03:55] ok, a new form has loaded after I clicked gDesklets-data [03:55] You should be able to change status (as shooters said). [03:55] there is a drop down text box with the status flags [03:55] That is where you mark bugs confirmed. [03:56] This is important. [03:56] but is it ethical to change it to "Confirmed" even though Im the only reporter? [03:56] No [03:56] Not in this case. [03:56] Just showing you how. [03:56] ah I see [03:56] Now looking at Bug #97109, I see you commented on that. [03:56] Malone bug 97109 in gdesklets-data "Gdesklets doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97109 [03:56] so, suppose I find another bug that I can reproduce here. Even if Im the second reporter, should I set it to "confirmed" ? [03:56] Yes. [03:57] One thing I notice in your comment on the second bug is that you are using Beryl. [03:57] loading [03:57] You didn't mention that in your original report. [03:57] This is a signficant factor. === shooters thinks a great way of starting helping with bugs is by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [03:57] ah, but when I tried that first bug, I was using metacity [03:57] OK. [03:57] I tried it with both, just to make sure that it wouldnt be the case [03:57] That's important too. [03:58] Very good. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:58] shooters: He's read it. [03:58] indeed [03:58] good... [03:58] I just dont want to mess things up [03:58] Understand. [03:58] Asking here is good. [03:59] so, in bug Bug #97109 in gdesklets-data (Ubuntu), I couldnt confirm it [03:59] I tried to follow the steps to reproduce the bug, but I couldnt. [03:59] Now I wonder: [03:59] since I may dont use the same hardware as that user, it doesnt mean the bug doesnt exist at all... [03:59] "since I may NOT", I meant [04:00] so I should leave that bug as it is, am I right? [04:00] Yes. [04:00] Much easier to confirm a bug exists than that it doesn't. [04:00] I thought so [04:00] as I told before, I may not be a power linux user, but I pretty much know how chaotic a "malfunction" may be... [04:01] You might leave a comment in 97109 that it might be related to 107354 and also the other way around. [04:01] ah, I see. [04:01] That way even though you aren't sure they are a duplicate, you've given someone with more experience who comes after a good hint. === gepatino [n=gabriel@200.123.178.120] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:01] good idea! [04:01] Looking for duplicates is very important too. [04:02] When duplicates start to pile up against a bug, the more developers will pay more attention and have more information gathered together. [04:02] yes, I read about that [04:02] I dont think that would be that difficult. [04:02] Generally it's not. [04:02] I searched for "gaim" on launchpad and found a couple of bugs that seemed similar [04:02] I think that your two bugs we've been discussing are probably duplicate, but I'm not sure. [04:03] What bugs? [04:03] If you do Bug # and the number, the bot will pull up a link for us. === ScottK will look. [04:03] I dont remember now, Ive been tweaking with launchpad for a good time before deciding to step up [04:03] Sure. [04:03] I'll be here for a bit. Just use my nick in the message and it'll flag me to come back here and look. [04:04] We'll see if you are right. [04:04] ok [04:04] but mostly important... [04:04] I found at least 4 bugs by searching for "gaim" that were pretty old or lacking basic information [04:05] so I was wondering: these bugs will probably stay here for a good time [04:05] maybe I could help somehow [04:05] Jh00: there are a lot of bugs that needs to be cleaned up... [04:05] Jh00: You should also join the bugsquad: https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad [04:05] thats when I thought that maybe I could try to reproduce those bugs and make some difference, but I thought that to do so, I would need to apply to a position in the bugsquad, and maybe thats too much for someone who isnt that "enlightened" [04:05] Jh00: Give us an example. [04:05] New bug: #107607 in Ubuntu "disk mount stores impossible mount point" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107607 [04:06] let me see [04:06] Not at all. [04:06] this one, for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/72204 [04:06] Malone bug 72204 in gaim "Gaim crashed while sending jpg on msn (msn_session_find_slplink)" [High,Confirmed] [04:06] ops, forget it, that one has comments.... [04:07] let me try another one [04:08] this one, for example: [04:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/23693 [04:08] Malone bug 23693 in gaim "gaim should be able to turn on an away message when xscreensaver activates" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [04:08] OK. BTW, 72000 bugs aren't very old. [04:08] I havent yet tried to reproduce it, but it is quite old [04:09] Note that that one is a "Wishlist" bug. [04:09] #56266 : old one to be cleaned up [04:09] and no one seems to have tried to reproduce it with the lastest version. [04:09] bug #56266 [04:09] Malone bug 56266 in Ubuntu "ethernet configured but not working on dapper 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56266 [04:09] That means they want a feature added. [04:09] Those often stay open for a long time. [04:09] yes, but maybe the feature is already implemented - in which case it should be closed - or either it isnt implemented - in which case someone should point out that with the current version, the feature still doesnt exist. [04:10] that what I thought. [04:10] shooters: Unless you have the same card as that guy, you really can't do much with it. [04:10] Jh00: Yes [04:10] ScottK: it's a breezy/dapper, we leave them open forever? [04:10] One useful thing to do for old bugs is to see if they've been reported in the upstream bug tracker. [04:10] in the other example (bug 56266) , maybe someone could flag it as "Need Info", so someone could test it again with Feisty and see if the problem is still there, am I right? [04:10] Malone bug 56266 in Ubuntu "ethernet configured but not working on dapper 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56266 [04:11] ScottK: shouldn't we ask him if the problem was solved -> to edgy -> feisty? [04:11] shooters: I reasonable question, but particularly with Dapper, since it's LTS, don't just assume the reporter has upgraded. [04:12] As it happens, Gigabit ethernet is rather famously poorly supported in Linux kernels until recently, so it' s probably valid [04:13] what about "Wishilist", should it be flaged as "Confirmed" or just let it be? [04:14] ScottK: that bug has no package assigned and is quite old, how likely is someone will pick it up? [04:14] Have a look at this. I searched on the model number of his LAN card: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=88E8001&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= [04:15] It looks like it can probably be duped to one of the kernel bugs that were fixed in Edgy (2.6.17). [04:15] hmmmm [04:15] makes sense, I got your thinking [04:15] One trick in Launchpad is that bugs that have dupes against them, can't be dupes. [04:16] So, go through a stack like that and decide which ones relate to the same issue. [04:16] Then pick the best one (It'll be one of the fix committed ones I hope) and dupe all the others to that one. === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:16] yeah, that is mentioned on the BugTrack info page [04:17] pick the newer/more complete [04:17] now, look at this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/66385 [04:17] Malone bug 66385 in gaim "Gaim pops up many popups for the same error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:17] how on earth could any developer try to trace back that bug [04:17] there is no version information, and the user didnt point out which error messages were displayed [04:18] Yes. [04:18] There is a version in a comment though [04:18] I think that, even though the bug may exist, but that report wont be able to produce any good result [04:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/66385/comments/4 [04:18] Malone bug 66385 in gaim "Gaim pops up many popups for the same error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:19] yes, I see that he later mentioned the version, but nothing about the actual error messages [04:19] See if you can replicate the general situation... Gaim pops up an error window, don't close it, and see if it pops another. [04:19] and the bug is a little old, so I wonder who else would find it if he has problems to either confirm or deny it [04:20] What I expect you will find is that this is the way Gaim works. [04:20] this is the kind of doubt that I expected to discuss here so I can make things right [04:20] He want's a design change. [04:20] Design change = Wishlist and should be filed upstream. [04:20] So, to be complete, you'd replicate the situation as best you can. [04:21] and then mark it confirmed. [04:21] New bug: #107608 in gtkpod (universe) "crashed when opening. Fresh Kubuntu install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107608 [04:21] Then go to the Gaim bug tracker and file a bug there and then link them on LP. [04:21] Someone in ubuntu-qa (like maybe me) will come along and mark it wishlist. [04:21] Then we wait and see what Gaim does with it. [04:21] hmmmm I see [04:21] ScottK: Is there anything that has been planned for the 27,000+ open bugs and increasing? [04:22] More volunteers and more work. === ScottK is not paid to be here. [04:22] most people helping out are just volunteers [04:22] let me try to find another example to learn how to proceed (hope Im not boring you guys) [04:22] One of the reasons though that the bug count is going up is that we now have automatic crash reporting. === ScottK didn't know ajmitch was watching... [04:23] I know, neither am I... but the # of bugs opened > # of bugs closed/fixed... at some point, open bugs will become out of control. no? [04:23] This is why finding dupes is a very important job. [04:23] ScottK: who, me? ;) [04:23] Yeah. [04:24] there are also a lot of old bugs that may or may not be cloed by new upstream versions of software === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:24] thats what I thought... [04:25] maybe now, that Feisty is on the verge of release, I could try to reproduce some old bugs [04:25] and mark them... Fixed? [04:25] Yes [04:25] New bug: #107609 in firefox (main) "the web browser crashed when I wasn't using it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107609 [04:25] it's often good to ask the original reporter, and set it to needs info [04:25] ah I see [04:26] & then hope that they reply [04:26] look at that last bug reported... [04:26] 107609... [04:26] no mentioning about anything === mat [n=mat@home.virgule.info] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:26] ubuntu version, firefox version, home page that was loaded, programs running ... [04:26] no, but that's what we get from apport [04:26] As an example of why dupe reporting is important... I got Bug #96090 fixed in Feisty, but only paid attention to it because of the number of dupes. [04:27] Malone bug 96090 in klamav "[apport] klamav crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96090 [04:27] people just get told that something crashed, and don't know where to go from there [04:27] ajmitch, ah, I see... hmm, not very helpful, is it? [04:27] Jh00: I've seen worse [04:27] (not flaming, just trying to understand with a bug-fixer perspective) [04:27] shooters: Are you in bugsquad? [04:28] ya [04:28] Good. [04:28] but they are soooo many bugs... [04:28] shooters: just start drinking from the firehose :) [04:28] Why don't you go clean up that gigabit ethernet mess I pointed at earlier... [04:29] How do you point out a link to the first dupe? [04:29] I mean, is there any code like, for example, phpBB ? [04:29] [bug] #[/bug] for example [04:30] ScottK: I've start doing a cleanup of old bugs without package assigned to them... [04:30] No, there's a spot in the menu on the left. [04:30] Jh00: 'mark as duplicate' in the menu [04:30] ScottK: are you using bughelper? [04:31] No. I just point and click. [04:32] Is that program used a lot? [04:32] Dunno. [04:32] thanks ajmitch [04:32] let me see... [04:33] Another good catgory to reject (but be nice) is people who file bugs on stuff that isn't from Ubuntu repositories. [04:33] We don't support that. === ScottK goes to reject bugs that mention automatix. [04:33] hmmm let me see [04:34] BTW, is there a way to filter all the bugs affecting a specified packet? For example, instead of searching for "gaim", just clicking a "gaim" category? [04:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/105037 [04:34] Malone bug 105037 in aptitude "[apport] aptitude crashed with signal 7l" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:35] look at that one [04:35] quoting: Binary package hint: aptitude [04:35] after running automatix on feisty [04:36] Have a look now. [04:37] Ahhh, rejected! [04:39] what if, lets say, you made a mistake by setting it as "Rejected" [04:39] is there any chance that your decision would be reviewed? [04:39] or the bug report is lost forever? === conn [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:40] No. It's not deleted, it just doesn't come up in default searches. [04:41] ops, I cant find how to reject another bug, (this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/diveintopython/+bug/90592 ) [04:41] Malone bug 90592 in diveintopython "upgrade using cd from 6.10 failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:42] click on the bug status "diveintopython (Ubuntu)" [04:42] which has the > beside it [04:42] you can then change the status to 'rejected' [04:43] Ahhh, nice, it worked, although it isnt very intuitive - maybe I will fill a wishlist for launchpad also :-) [04:46] New bug: #107610 in gnome-panel (main) "time, recycle and shutdown panels icons are in the wrong location after a screen resolution change." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107610 [04:46] Jh00: You were to slow. I got that one already... [04:46] how do you know??? [04:46] ScottK: aw let new people get them :) [04:46] Refresh your page. [04:46] ops, you mean, the automatix one? [04:46] Yeah [04:46] ScottK: you basically duplicated his comment [04:47] Ah man, then I guess he got it first... [04:47] Jh00 commented about 4 minutes before you did [04:47] lol [04:47] you lose [04:47] and you copied and pasted my reply, thats not fair === ScottK will go sulk in the corner. [04:47] ;-) [04:48] Weird. That's what I put in there word for word... [04:48] Maybe an LP bug or a really weird co-incidence. [04:48] hehe [04:49] I think I got all the automatix ones that needed closing (a couple seemed valid based on other comments). [04:49] ScottK and ajmitch, your help was very appreciated, thanks! [04:49] You're welcome. Your contribution is appreciated. [04:49] I will try to find some other bugs/dups and report here to see if Im working alright [04:50] just to make sure [04:51] I do need to get to bed. Good luck. [04:51] thank you! [04:51] g'night! === Toxicity999_ [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Toxicity999_ is now known as Toxicity999 === Yasumoto [n=joe@trailers75.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:00] New bug: #107611 in xfce (universe) "custom created quick launcher icons on desktop randomly disappear yet still show up in desktop folder." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107611 [05:05] New bug: #107612 in cvs (main) "cvs crash under certain tag in options file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107612 === mjunx [n=matt@adsl-75-4-132-80.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:26] New bug: #107613 in firefox (main) "Just hang withou notice or reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107613 === asac_ is now known as asac [05:55] New bug: #107616 in Ubuntu "Poor security defaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107616 === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:25] New bug: #107617 in ktorrent (main) "when ktorrent starts up at system startup (I have the sys tray icon enabled), the app crashes " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107617 === ivoks [n=ivoks@16-89.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === macd [n=d@adsl-222-22-190.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === micahcowan [n=micah@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F76CF2.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:09] good morning [07:15] New bug: #107620 in kdelibs (main) "[apport] kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107620 [07:30] New bug: #107621 in ubiquity (main) "6.06 LTS Installer crashed on MacBook Pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107621 === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-218-80.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jayhawkbrandon [i=HydraIRC@180.113.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jayhawkbrandon [i=HydraIRC@180.113.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === jayhawkbrandon [i=HydraIRC@180.113.124.24.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:01] New bug: #107625 in python-f2py (universe) "python-f2py should depend on python-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107625 [08:01] New bug: #107627 in edgy-gdm-themes (universe) "Take all the memory when xnest uses 1x1 geometry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107627 === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-30.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:10] New bug: #107629 in gaim (main) "[apport] gaim crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107629 [08:10] New bug: #107630 in avahi (main) "avahi-daemon fail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107630 === rulus [n=roel@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === yamal [n=yamal@Room641A.no-such-agency.net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-9-116.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:40] New bug: #107632 in pgadmin3 (universe) "[apport] pgadmin3 crashed with SIGSEGV in wxWindowBase::CaptureMouse()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107632 === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-40-186.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:55] New bug: #107633 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Dell Inspiron 8200 freezes after ~5 mins of work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107633 === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:06] New bug: #107636 in Ubuntu "wifi adapter not resumed after hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107636 === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Keneo [n=jens@86-39-2-77.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mvo [n=egon@p54a67a3e.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:11] New bug: #107637 in Ubuntu "Crashed the forum I was using at the time." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107637 [09:20] New bug: #107639 in Ubuntu "/etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh doesn't mount nfs mounts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107639 === Keneo [n=jens@86-39-2-77.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jle [n=jjlehto3@vipunen.hut.fi] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === Keneo [n=jens@86-39-2-77.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mkorn [i=mkorn@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mkorn is now known as thekorn === rulus [n=roel@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:51] New bug: #107641 in Ubuntu "possible error in sources.list manpage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107641 [09:56] New bug: #107643 in rdesktop (main) "rdesktop segfaults after xlib11 updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107643 [10:01] New bug: #107644 in kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts (main) "Kubuntu package menu disappears after restoring default KDE profiles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107644 === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:15] New bug: #107645 in f-spot (main) "feisty f-spot hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107645 === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@20-33.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks [10:20] New bug: #107646 in Ubuntu "nvidia kernel module has version mismatch with nvidia xorg module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107646 === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host118-5-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:30] Hi there [10:30] I can't find how to get a backtrace in openoffice [10:30] New bug: #107624 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (main) "In the first page with boot option menu, part of the changing characters does not shown clearly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107624 [10:30] New bug: #107626 in gfxboot (main) "The chaning progress percentage characters does not shown clearly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107626 [10:31] New bug: #107647 in gconf2 (main) "[apport] gconftool-2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107647 [10:31] I installed ooimpress-dbgsym === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:36] New bug: #107648 in Ubuntu "The Ubuntu community is insane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107648 [10:38] haha [10:38] oh man [10:38] lol [10:39] guys [10:40] I even reported a backtrace in OO once [10:40] but can't find how to do that now [10:40] I realize there's 108 pages [10:40] in 2 hours :) [10:40] there [10:40] i was laughing at but 107648, not you :) [10:40] but in the same 2 hours I would like to report the f**** backtrace [10:40] yes I know :) [10:46] New bug: #107649 in konq-kim (universe) "no se pudo instalar konq-kim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107649 === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host118-5-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === os2mac [n=jim@ip68-230-203-5.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@ubuntu/member/mrpouit] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:10] New bug: #107651 in Ubuntu "timezone selection differs alternate vs gaphical install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107651 === umarmung [n=holger@p54AA43FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:21] New bug: #107652 in Ubuntu "gnome stops managing windows/workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107652 [11:26] New bug: #107653 in Ubuntu "ubuntu/ kubuntu 64 fails to boot on msi k9ngm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107653 [11:30] New bug: #107654 in firefox (main) "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107654 [11:30] New bug: #107655 in Ubuntu "opera 9.20-20070409.6ubuntu2 from edgy-commercial cannot be installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107655 === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:51] New bug: #107657 in kopete (main) "Kopete + bt848 : Can't select a video standard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107657 [11:51] New bug: #107658 in coreutils (main) "cut(1) dumps core" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107658 [11:51] New bug: #107659 in firefox (main) "ubuntu reported firefox crash upon login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107659 === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:56] New bug: #107661 in Ubuntu "so many old library files after upgrade to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107661 === danohuiginn [n=dan@p54bef485.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:01] New bug: #107662 in apport (main) "apport hooks included in python2.4, but code only works with 2.5" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107662 === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Sambler [n=OKASO@182.Red-80-32-190.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:05] New bug: #107663 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Missing Intel Core2 CPU temperature monitor driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107663 [12:05] New bug: #107665 in xmms-jack (universe) "XMMS does not connect to jackd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107665 === seb128_ [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-61-34.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:06] New bug: #107664 in Ubuntu "Kmail/Kontact crashes when opening a folder for the first time using option 'go to last selected message'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107664 === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === tsurc [n=alistair@skegnessgrammar.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Zorlin [n=Administ@60-240-173-88.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:11] has anyone got any info on bug #107643 its status in undecided and unconfirmed. I can confirm it and to us at least its very important [12:11] Malone bug 107643 in rdesktop "rdesktop segfaults after xlib11 updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107643 [12:16] tsurc: if you can confirm it... then go and confirm it ;) [12:16] have done [12:17] ;) [12:17] cool :) [12:17] can't change importance though? [12:17] !info rdesktop [12:17] rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB [12:17] !importance | tsurc [12:17] tsurc: You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance [12:17] thanks ;) === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-18-143.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:17] yw [12:17] heya thekorn :) [12:18] hey pochu ! [12:18] heya pochu [12:19] hey coNP :) [12:19] howdy? === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:20] New bug: #107666 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Please provide dh_gtkmodules for easier merge and sync from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107666 [12:21] thing is I can confirm that this bug has happened to me personally, but as for fixing/taking Developer responsibility for it I simply don't have the skills. But it is really important to our school that it's fixed. [12:22] any ideas? === shab [n=sha123@59.163.25.48] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:26] tsurc: you can help us obtaining a backtrace [12:26] tsurc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs should provide a good start [12:26] thanks ;) === GNAM [n=kvirc@host173-161-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:28] upgrade to feisty hangs while configuring(postint) xserver-org [12:28] I am using nvidia-legacy driver [12:28] any idea? [12:28] help please!! === kal_ [i=kal@mon75-2-81-57-188-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:28] shab: this is *not* a support channel, try to get help on #ubuntu+1, please [12:29] thanks coNP [12:29] or #ubuntu in a few minutes :) [12:30] :) === shab [n=sha123@59.163.25.48] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] [12:46] New bug: #107667 in kvpnc (universe) "additional network routes not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107667 [12:49] thekorn: heya [12:49] thekorn: how did your talk go? [12:49] dholbach: hi, [12:50] well I think it went fine, got some positive feedback :) [12:50] ROCK ON === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:51] New bug: #107668 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Setting an invalid mount point can make a removeable media unaccessible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107668 [12:51] thekorn: http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/attachment-cleaning.patch :-D [12:51] looking... [12:53] dholbach: YOU ROCK! [12:53] what it does is 1) move attachments to /// and use that attachment [12:53] 2) everytime a buglist is generated from a source package, it removes the attachments that are not in that list [12:53] it seemed to be the easiest solution to me [12:54] you are right [12:55] thekorn: I changed the BugAttachment constructor and realized that apport-retrace does not use it [12:55] so we should be safe [12:55] (and anyway, we'll change the API to something clever soon hopefully :)) [12:56]