=== iKs [n=iks@mna75-9-82-243-59-107.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zYe_ [n=zye@adsl-074-236-230-248.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-164-89-163.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:02] jrib, [01:03] zYe_: hi, what does happen with the side buttons? === disasm [i=disirc@c-71-58-117-96.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:04] jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16325/ [01:05] zYe_: kill imwheel before running this === disasm [i=disirc@c-71-58-117-96.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [01:07] ok it gives me an output of button 6, and 7 [01:07] btw im on feisty O_o [01:07] beta [01:07] k, so what kind of mouse is this? [01:07] do you have sidescroll? [01:08] intellimouse [01:08] optical [01:08] wired [01:08] i have 1,2 buttons and a scroll [01:08] what does wheel down and wheel up give? [01:08] 4,5 [01:09] 1=left button, 2=scroll pushed down, 3=right button, 4-5 scroll, 6-7 side buttons [01:09] weird, maybe the docs are wrong or imwheel is doing something different than what the docs indicate [01:10] the setup i am currently using is this. [01:10] not a big deal, just learn that Down is button whatever and use it that way [01:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388161 [01:11] that down is side button 6? [01:11] vice versa? [01:12] what do you mean by vice versa? [01:12] button 6 is Down and Down is button 6 [01:12] ? [01:12] yea [01:12] in imwheel [01:13] right, that's what I would suggest [01:13] except button 6 would be refereed to as thumb1 i guess [01:13] but you are saying it isn't right? [01:13] nope [01:13] but what i am trying to fix is the fact that thumb1 equals thumb1 [01:13] according to your imwheelrc you should be able to go back and forward in your browser with some mouse button, does that ahppen? [01:13] yes [01:14] k [01:14] when i bind my thumb1 in a game is binded as alt [01:14] and i want it to be binded as MOUSE6 or w/e [01:14] because it isnt working correctly [01:15] how do you bind it? [01:15] you press the tab and it tells you to press the key to bind... [01:16] but how does it end up in your imwheelrc [01:16] it isnt in my imwheelrc [01:16] lol [01:16] hmm [01:16] im guessing that alt_r | left [01:17] in firefox [01:17] goes back [01:17] right [01:17] so i need to change the 'null' section to something that the game will recognize for my side button? [01:18] null lets you specify a modifier key for the mouse, like making alt-click do something [01:18] so null means no modifier [01:18] erm not null, "None" [01:19] the "(null)" for the window name just lets you bind windows that don't get a window name [01:19] There is one special header noted as "(null)" which matches windows that have a null string in the three attributes. This makes it possible to assign actions to even Quake3 [01:19] this is where i am getting my idea, [01:19] ok so what do you want to do? [01:19] make the side button press g? [01:19] i guess that would work [01:20] but would it affect anything else? [01:20] like when im not playing the game? [01:20] it would affect any window that's (null) I guess [01:20] so any window that is 'in front' would be affected [01:20] i guess? [01:21] I don't think so, most windows have some kind of identification, like "firefox". quake just doesn't comply with that [01:21] so the .* will match firefox first [01:22] what determines if a window is considered 'null' [01:23] zYe_: the developers of the application that spawns the window I imagine. You may be able to see the info using xwininfo or xprop [01:25] WM_CLASS(STRING) = "gaim", "Gaim" [01:25] so this is the identification tag i guess [01:25] and quake would be WM_CLASS(STRING) = "" [01:25] ? [01:25] thus making it null? [01:26] must be [01:26] is quake open source? [01:26] im not playing quake, was just using it as an example [01:27] this will be for starseige tribes [01:27] starsiege* [01:27] oh [01:28] if it's open source there is always the solution to fix the app so it does give itself a name [01:29] well this doesn't look good [01:30] zYe_: what's that? [01:30] and this game isnt open source [01:30] WM_NAME(STRING) = "Tribes" [01:30] ah that's very good [01:30] WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Tribes.exe", "Wine" [01:30] just match Tribes then [01:30] oh? [01:30] so i just change null, to tribes? [01:30] zYe_: you know regex? [01:31] nope [01:31] k, well basically . means "any character" and * means "0 or more" [01:31] so the ".*" thing basically matches any window [01:31] just put a new section at the top that starts with "Tribes" [01:31] "(tribes)" [01:32] k [01:32] no () [01:32] ok [01:32] and capitalization may matter [01:33] None, Down, Shift_L|Left [01:33] so that would make my button 6 left shift [01:34] because my down scroll is my side button for some weird reason [01:34] it should [01:34] what is the |left for? [01:34] i know the _L indicated left shift [01:35] Shift_L|Left should be your left shift button AND your left arrow button [01:35] at the same time [01:35] so if i take out the arrow button then i can also take out the | correct to just make it Shift_L [01:35] hmm you can try [01:35] and if i want to make one of the buttons 'g' [01:36] it may have problems using modifier keys like that but it's worth a shot [01:36] what should i press [01:36] lol [01:36] or type [01:36] O_o [01:36] try just g [01:37] they should of just assigned 7 buttons into the os [01:37] -_- [01:37] or did they [01:37] not sure what you mean [01:38] well without imwheel my other buttons where not recognized at all [01:38] even after messing with xorg.conf [01:38] well they are recognized, they just don't do anything [01:38] which mean there is no support for more than 5 buttons in the os [01:39] well where is the file that assigns mouse buttons [01:39] it's more of an application thing. For example firefox is able to detect me tilting my scroll wheel with no configuration [01:39] zYe_: assigns mouse buttons to what though? [01:39] hmm [01:39] you press your side button and it generates button6 lets say. What do you want to assign it to? [01:39] yea [01:40] well ive been here in linux for about 2 months, and in windows i would just say this button will now do something if the program supports it [01:40] err [01:41] or did it auto assign itself? [01:41] like in firefox it worked right away, did it autoassign the alt arrow configuration? [01:41] no I don't think so [01:41] well then how could it 'suddenly' work? [01:42] firefox just uses knows what to do with the button in windows I guess [01:42] hmm [01:42] ok [01:42] I mean the app knows "hey button6 was pressed!". It's up to the app to do what it wants with it [01:42] well i have to eat, brb if your still here [01:42] i know [01:42] :) [01:42] I'm going to do the same, cya [01:42] bye === ppmt [n=etlpltn@201.149.14.10] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zYe_ [n=zye@adsl-074-236-230-248.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === ppmt [n=etlpltn@201.149.14.10] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Ex-Chat"] === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U_ [n=jordan@h-68-165-172-144.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121lcl.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === GaiaX11 [n=vagner@201.57.125.2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp59-133.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === kiamorningslx [n=kiamorni@113-21-68.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:02] hola a todos === kiamorningslx [n=kiamorni@113-21-68.adsl.cust.tie.cl] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Konversation] === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U_ [n=jordan@h-68-164-85-173.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === FordCortina [n=frank@ACCE186F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jordan__ [n=jordan@h-68-164-86-15.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === jpon [n=jpniane@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-165-173-129.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U_ [n=jordan@h-68-165-173-129.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.124.198] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.124.198] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-165-173-129.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr96782@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-165-173-129.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === GaiaX11 [n=vagner@201.57.125.2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-164-87-198.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === stuart_ [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DerXero [n=patrick@dslb-082-083-152-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === |Crusher| [n=You@ppp165-123.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Turgon [n=Turgon@unaffiliated/turgon] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === macconline [n=macconli@190.37.36.90] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === laurent_ [n=chatzill@ACD20DAD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === laurent_ [n=chatzill@ACD20DAD.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === NewbieBaba [n=NewbieBa@88.238.2.221] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:27] jrib hey baba ! :) [05:27] NewbieBaba: hi, how are you? [05:28] im ok thanks and you ? [05:28] downloading Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn [05:28] i'll upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 also [05:30] what do u think if i install it by CD or upgrade the current system? [05:31] jrib [05:31] NewbieBaba: upgrade if you want to keep your old settings [05:32] how long it takes u think [05:32] a couple of hours at most, but you can use your system while it fetches the upgrades [05:32] btw i installed xwinwrap to use screenshots as desktop wallpaper [05:32] glmatrix ftw :P [05:32] cool [05:33] screensaver* [05:33] but the things in ss goes on my pages [05:33] hmm u know what im saying [05:34] pages? [05:38] on pages that im using [05:38] like chat window [05:38] browser [05:38] terminal [05:41] oh, I see [05:41] must be buggy then [05:41] kk bbl === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === hedix [i=usr96835@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === EDVINAS_ [i=usr96838@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === EDVINAS_ [i=usr96846@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === NewbieBaba [n=Ubuntu@88.238.2.221] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [06:03] !alt gr [06:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about alt gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:03] a.q [06:03] !alt+gr [06:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about alt+gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:03] !alt-gr-#ubuntu-effects [06:03] To have your AltGr working run: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap. [06:03] how can i make it permanent ? [06:04] should i add it on session? [06:04] no idea [06:04] well i'll add it on session === EDVINAS__ [i=usr96853@c1.edrana.lt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [06:05] # [06:06] jrib, r u using xwinwrap? 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Do you think if I resume the download it will work or i will have problems with broken packages? === edavis10 [n=eric@68-116-82-188.dhcp.trlk.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom