[01:02] <zYe_> jrib,
[01:03] <jrib> zYe_: hi, what does happen with the side buttons?
[01:04] <zYe_> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16325/
[01:05] <jrib> zYe_: kill imwheel before running this
[01:07] <zYe_> ok it gives me an output of button 6, and 7
[01:07] <zYe_> btw im on feisty O_o
[01:07] <zYe_> beta
[01:07] <jrib> k, so what kind of mouse is this?
[01:07] <jrib> do you have sidescroll?
[01:08] <zYe_> intellimouse
[01:08] <zYe_> optical
[01:08] <zYe_> wired
[01:08] <zYe_> i have 1,2 buttons and a scroll
[01:08] <jrib> what does wheel down and wheel up give?
[01:08] <zYe_> 4,5
[01:09] <zYe_> 1=left button, 2=scroll pushed down, 3=right button, 4-5 scroll, 6-7 side buttons
[01:09] <jrib> weird, maybe the docs are wrong or imwheel is doing something different than what the docs indicate
[01:10] <zYe_> the setup i am currently using is this.
[01:10] <jrib> not a big deal, just learn that Down is button whatever and use it that way
[01:10] <zYe_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388161
[01:11] <zYe_> that down is side button 6?
[01:11] <zYe_> vice versa?
[01:12] <jrib> what do you mean by vice versa?
[01:12] <jrib> button 6 is Down and Down is button 6
[01:12] <jrib> ?
[01:12] <zYe_> yea
[01:12] <zYe_> in imwheel
[01:13] <jrib> right, that's what I would suggest
[01:13] <zYe_> except button 6 would be refereed to as thumb1 i guess
[01:13] <jrib> but you are saying it isn't right?
[01:13] <zYe_> nope
[01:13] <zYe_> but what i am trying to fix is the fact that thumb1 equals thumb1
[01:13] <jrib> according to your imwheelrc you should be able to go back and forward in your browser with some mouse button, does that ahppen?
[01:13] <zYe_> yes
[01:14] <jrib> k
[01:14] <zYe_> when i bind my thumb1 in a game is binded as alt
[01:14] <zYe_> and i want it to be binded as MOUSE6 or w/e
[01:14] <zYe_> because it isnt working correctly
[01:15] <jrib> how do you bind it?
[01:15] <zYe_> you press the tab and it tells you to press the key to bind...
[01:16] <jrib> but how does it end up in your imwheelrc
[01:16] <zYe_> it isnt in my imwheelrc
[01:16] <zYe_> lol
[01:16] <jrib> hmm
[01:16] <zYe_> im guessing that alt_r | left
[01:17] <zYe_> in firefox
[01:17] <zYe_> goes back
[01:17] <jrib> right
[01:17] <zYe_> so i need to change the 'null' section to something that the game will recognize for my side button?
[01:18] <jrib> null lets you specify a modifier key for the mouse, like making  alt-click do something
[01:18] <jrib> so null means no modifier
[01:18] <jrib> erm not null, "None"
[01:19] <jrib> the "(null)" for the window name just lets you bind windows that don't get a window name
[01:19] <zYe_>   There is one special header noted as "(null)" which matches windows that have a null string in the three attributes.  This makes it possible to assign actions to even Quake3
[01:19] <zYe_> this is where i am getting my idea,
[01:19] <jrib> ok so what do you want to do?
[01:19] <jrib> make the side button press g?
[01:19] <zYe_> i guess that would work
[01:20] <zYe_> but would it affect anything else?
[01:20] <zYe_> like when im not playing the game?
[01:20] <jrib> it would affect any window that's (null) I guess
[01:20] <zYe_> so any window that is 'in front' would be affected
[01:20] <zYe_> i guess?
[01:21] <jrib> I don't think so, most windows have some kind of identification, like "firefox".  quake just doesn't comply with that
[01:21] <jrib> so the .* will match firefox first
[01:22] <zYe_> what determines if a window is considered 'null'
[01:23] <jrib> zYe_: the developers of the application that spawns the window I imagine.  You may be able to see the info using xwininfo or xprop
[01:25] <zYe_> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "gaim", "Gaim"
[01:25] <zYe_> so this is the identification tag i guess
[01:25] <zYe_> and quake would be WM_CLASS(STRING) = ""
[01:25] <zYe_> ?
[01:25] <zYe_> thus making it null?
[01:26] <jrib> must be
[01:26] <jrib> is quake open source?
[01:26] <zYe_> im not playing quake, was just using it as an example
[01:27] <zYe_> this will be for starseige tribes
[01:27] <zYe_> starsiege*
[01:27] <jrib> oh
[01:28] <jrib> if it's open source there is always the solution to fix the app so it does give itself a name
[01:29] <zYe_> well this doesn't look good
[01:30] <jrib> zYe_: what's that?
[01:30] <zYe_> and this game isnt open source
[01:30] <zYe_> WM_NAME(STRING) = "Tribes"
[01:30] <jrib> ah that's very good
[01:30] <zYe_> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "Tribes.exe", "Wine"
[01:30] <jrib> just match Tribes then
[01:30] <zYe_> oh?
[01:30] <zYe_> so i just change null, to tribes?
[01:30] <jrib> zYe_: you know regex?
[01:31] <zYe_> nope
[01:31] <jrib> k, well basically . means "any character" and * means "0 or more"
[01:31] <jrib> so the ".*" thing basically matches any window
[01:31] <jrib> just put a new section at the top that starts with "Tribes"
[01:31] <zYe_> "(tribes)"
[01:32] <zYe_> k
[01:32] <jrib> no ()
[01:32] <zYe_> ok
[01:32] <jrib> and capitalization may matter
[01:33] <zYe_> None, Down, Shift_L|Left
[01:33] <zYe_> so that would make my button 6 left shift
[01:34] <zYe_> because my down scroll is my side button for some weird reason
[01:34] <jrib> it should
[01:34] <zYe_> what is the |left for?
[01:34] <zYe_> i know the _L indicated left shift
[01:35] <jrib> Shift_L|Left  should be your left shift button AND your left arrow button
[01:35] <jrib> at the same time
[01:35] <zYe_> so if i take out the arrow button then i can also take out the | correct to just make it Shift_L
[01:35] <jrib> hmm you can try
[01:35] <zYe_> and if i want to make one of the buttons 'g'
[01:36] <jrib> it may have problems using modifier keys like that but it's worth a shot
[01:36] <zYe_> what should i press
[01:36] <zYe_> lol
[01:36] <zYe_> or type
[01:36] <zYe_> O_o
[01:36] <jrib> try just  g
[01:37] <zYe_> they should of just assigned 7 buttons into the os
[01:37] <zYe_> -_-
[01:37] <zYe_> or did they
[01:37] <jrib> not sure what you mean
[01:38] <zYe_> well without imwheel my other buttons where not recognized at all
[01:38] <zYe_> even after messing with xorg.conf
[01:38] <jrib> well they are recognized, they just don't do anything
[01:38] <zYe_> which mean there is no support for more than 5 buttons in the os
[01:39] <zYe_> well where is the file that assigns mouse buttons
[01:39] <jrib> it's more of an application thing.  For example firefox is able to detect me tilting my scroll wheel with no configuration
[01:39] <jrib> zYe_: assigns mouse buttons to what though?
[01:39] <zYe_> hmm
[01:39] <jrib> you press your side button and it generates button6 lets say.  What do you want to assign it to?
[01:39] <zYe_> yea
[01:40] <zYe_> well ive been here in linux for about 2 months, and in windows i would just say this button will now do something if the program supports it
[01:40] <zYe_> err
[01:41] <zYe_> or did it auto assign itself?
[01:41] <zYe_> like in firefox it worked right away, did it autoassign the alt arrow configuration?
[01:41] <jrib> no I don't think so
[01:41] <zYe_> well then how could it 'suddenly' work?
[01:42] <jrib> firefox just uses knows what to do with the button in windows I guess
[01:42] <zYe_> hmm
[01:42] <zYe_> ok
[01:42] <jrib> I mean the app knows "hey button6 was pressed!".  It's up to the app to do what it wants with it
[01:42] <zYe_>  well i have to eat, brb if your still here
[01:42] <zYe_> i know
[01:42] <zYe_> :)
[01:42] <jrib> I'm going to do the same, cya
[01:42] <zYe_> bye
[04:02] <kiamorningslx> hola a todos
[05:27] <NewbieBaba> jrib hey baba ! :)
[05:27] <jrib> NewbieBaba: hi, how are you?
[05:28] <NewbieBaba> im ok thanks and you ?
[05:28] <NewbieBaba> downloading Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[05:28] <NewbieBaba> i'll upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 also
[05:30] <NewbieBaba> what do u think if i install it by CD or upgrade the current system?
[05:31] <NewbieBaba> jrib
[05:31] <jrib> NewbieBaba: upgrade if you want to keep your old settings
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> how long it takes u think
[05:32] <jrib> a couple of hours at most, but you can use your system while it fetches the upgrades
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> btw i installed xwinwrap to use screenshots as desktop wallpaper
[05:32] <NewbieBaba> glmatrix ftw :P
[05:32] <jrib> cool
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> screensaver*
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> but the things in ss goes on my pages
[05:33] <NewbieBaba> hmm u know what im saying
[05:34] <jrib> pages?
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> on pages that im using
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> like chat window
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> browser
[05:38] <NewbieBaba> terminal
[05:41] <jrib> oh, I see
[05:41] <jrib> must be buggy then
[05:41] <NewbieBaba> kk bbl
[06:03] <NewbieBaba> !alt gr
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alt gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <NewbieBaba> a.q
[06:03] <NewbieBaba> !alt+gr
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alt+gr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <LjL> !alt-gr-#ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <ubotu> To have your AltGr working run: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<language>
[06:03] <NewbieBaba> how can i make it permanent ?
[06:04] <NewbieBaba> should i add it on session?
[06:04] <LjL> no idea
[06:04] <NewbieBaba> well i'll add it on session
[06:05] <NewbieBaba> #
[06:06] <NewbieBaba> jrib, r u using xwinwrap?
[06:06] <jrib> NewbieBaba: nope
[11:41] <GaiaX11> I had to shutdown my pc and I was downloading feisty with bittorent. Do you think if I resume the download it will work or i will have problems with broken packages?