[05:11] <BobSongs> Good evening (well, it's night time here in Canada).
[05:12] <Madpilot> evening
[05:13] <BobSongs> I was cleaning up my computer station when I noticed a pile of Microsoft Quick Start guides. I was ready to toss them in the trash (seeing I have little need for MSFT Quick Start guides) when a thought hit me.
[05:13] <BobSongs> What if I took the time to create an Ubuntu Quick Start guide? I know there's documentation out there for Ubuntu. But what about a guide that followed roughly what MSFT has designed for new users?
[05:14] <BobSongs> Would such a thing be considered one too many among a set of already established tomes? Or does this sound like it might fill a need?
[05:15] <BobSongs> These Quick Start guides are the type you'd find in an OEM box, one that contains a setup CD and a thicker manual on how to run Windows, for example.
[05:15] <Madpilot> would this be designed for print, or as an onscreen doc?
[05:16] <BobSongs> I am truly torn between the two. I guess I could put a rough draft together and submit it as a PDF file.
[05:17] <BobSongs> The format is not 8 1/2 x 11. It's about half that size. It makes an ideal booklet.
[05:17] <Madpilot> get a basic proposal/outline together, and fire it off to the docteam mailing list
[05:17] <BobSongs> Excellent.
[05:17] <BobSongs> I was looking at it and thought it might be a good idea.
[05:18] <BobSongs> I kinda got a bit excited (as I am the excitable type) and did a cover for it in Inkscape. I wanted it to faintly resemble the Windows XP Pro Quick Start guide ... without being a complete rip off.
[05:19] <Madpilot> got the image up on the web somewhere?
[05:20] <BobSongs> Ooo. I should, eh? Lemme get that done. It'll take about 5 minutes. Cool?
[05:20] <BobSongs> I'll stay connected here and get that done immediately.
[05:26] <BobSongs> http://ubuntulinux.50webs.com/FrontCover.png
[05:26] <BobSongs> :-)
[05:26] <BobSongs> Done.
[05:26] <BobSongs> It's not an amazing resolution. But you get the drift.
[05:28] <BobSongs> While I have become less and less a fan of Microsoft I must admit their manuals are nicely laid out. And while I do not wish to tread on copyright issues I still think a booklet that covers the same essentials they cover would not be a bad idea. A printed copy would be uber cool. But a supplied PDF file would be just as good.
[05:29] <BobSongs> The text on the PNG file is not final. It's just a mock up for the black background.
[05:29] <BobSongs> I was going for a kind of "Ubuntu Ultimate" look. ;-)
[05:30] <Madpilot> black isn't really an Ubuntu colour
[05:30] <Madpilot> I like the basic layout, but go with tan/brown/etc, or just white
[05:31] <BobSongs> Is there a link where I can get the Hex colours?
[05:31] <BobSongs> I don't want to approximate the necessary colours.
[05:31] <BobSongs> :-)
[05:31] <Madpilot> just a sec, there are palettes available on the official artwork page
[05:32] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[05:32] <BobSongs> Okay. Cool. I prefer to work with hex when it comes to colors.
[05:33] <BobSongs> Thanks for the reference. I'll begin the outline and rough draft and submit it to the docteam mailing list.
[05:35] <Madpilot> I did the covers for the printed Lulu-published versions of the Dapper docs. I'll package up the SVG files if you want something to work from.
[05:36] <BobSongs> Excellent. Any references you've got I'll gladly take and work with.
[05:36] <Madpilot> give me a few minutes to tar.gz everything.
[05:36] <BobSongs> No problem.
[05:52] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/kwww/announcements/7.04-release.php
[05:52] <nixternal> anyone up for proofing?
[05:52] <nixternal> hiya mpt
[05:54] <Madpilot> BobSongs, http://dev.wirelizard.ca/Lulu_Covers_SVG.tar.gz
[05:54] <nixternal> LULU!!!
[05:55] <BobSongs> Merci beaucoup as they say here in Montreal.
[05:55] <nixternal> gracias as they say here in Chicago
[05:55] <nixternal> haha
[05:56] <BobSongs> Madpilot, I'll give the brown a try. Hope it looks good. I've got the palette in SVG format (yay!) so I'll continue to tweak the cover page.
[05:56] <Madpilot> BobSongs, did you do that first draft in Inkscape?
[05:57] <BobSongs> nixternal, Gracias in Chicago, eh? lol I guess Spanish is becoming very influential in the US.
[05:57] <nixternal> at least here in Chicago it is
[05:57] <BobSongs> Madpilot, Yep. I really like it since the 0.45 release.
[05:58] <BobSongs> A big "thanks" to Google for the "Summer of Code" support. That resulted in blur added to the software. A very useful addition. In my opinion it bumps Inkscape up into 'professional' levels.
[06:00] <BobSongs> Sorry: slightly off topic.
[06:00] <BobSongs> However, I can always submit any graphics in SVG format.
[06:01] <Madpilot> evening Burgundavia
[06:02] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot
[06:02] <Burgundavia> need anything from Imperial Hobbies?\
[06:02] <Madpilot> need, maybe. can afford, no. You doing NWLinuxFest via Vancouver, then?
[06:04] <Burgundavia> no, going tomorrow for BCLA
[06:05] <Madpilot> cool. have fun.
[02:37] <nixternal> mdke: h.u.c needs the 7.04 tab, and the Edubuntu handbook :)
[04:49] <shirish> can somebody help me in understanding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnPageCreation
[04:50] <nixternal> CONGRATULATIONS DocTeam! Great job this release, now it is time to start thinking how to one up Feisty with Gutsy!
[04:50] <nixternal> shirish: I would love to, but I am late to the uni from all of my Feisty release partying!
[04:50] <shirish> nixternal: I just need 2 minutes, thats all
[04:50] <shirish> I just need to know how to add the wikiname
[04:50] <nixternal> ok make it quick :)
[04:50] <nixternal> oh
[04:51] <nixternal> OK, say I want to make a wiki page called ShirishRocks
[04:51] <shirish> I don't want to over-write anybody's page
[04:51] <nixternal> I would do it like so
[04:51] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShirishRocks
[04:51] <shirish> ok go on
[04:51] <nixternal> if the page is not yet created, it will offer you with a link to create the page
[04:51] <shirish> ah ok that's how u do it
[04:51] <nixternal> so you really don't have to worry about writing over someone elses page
[04:52] <nixternal> if you click that link I posted with ShirishRocks you will see the page and the link to create a new page
[04:52] <shirish> that makes it easy, that should be actually added to the wiki mentioned, is it ok if I add that bit to it
[04:52] <nixternal> sure, if it helps out feel free
[04:52] <shirish> thnx for your time :)
[04:53] <nixternal> no problem
[04:53] <nixternal> time to go be bored in school ;)
[04:54] <shirish> dang thats an immutable page, the help on creation
[04:55] <nixternal> ah, ya I guess the help pages would be
[04:55] <shirish> anyway, would drop that on the mailing list somebody might be able to do something about it
[04:55] <shirish> thanx again :)
[07:00] <nixternal> how important is using the '--xinclude' flag when building HTML now if we aren't using xi:includes at all in our docs now?
[07:01] <nixternal> reason being, pbuilder seriously hates the '--xinclude' flag causing the build time for translated kubuntu-docs to go for 8 hours
[07:35] <somerville32> When is the 7.04 desktop guide going to be published?
[07:46] <nixternal> there is no desktop guide :)