=== TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Exit,] === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === moowiz2020 [n=steven@pool-71-117-95-143.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CIA-12 [n=CIA@cia.vc] has joined #ubuntu-doc === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.78] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Annn0nym0us [i=Annn0nym@pool-71-117-95-33.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === BobSongs [n=BobSongs@ip216-239-86-103.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:11] Good evening (well, it's night time here in Canada). [05:12] evening [05:13] I was cleaning up my computer station when I noticed a pile of Microsoft Quick Start guides. I was ready to toss them in the trash (seeing I have little need for MSFT Quick Start guides) when a thought hit me. [05:13] What if I took the time to create an Ubuntu Quick Start guide? I know there's documentation out there for Ubuntu. But what about a guide that followed roughly what MSFT has designed for new users? [05:14] Would such a thing be considered one too many among a set of already established tomes? Or does this sound like it might fill a need? [05:15] These Quick Start guides are the type you'd find in an OEM box, one that contains a setup CD and a thicker manual on how to run Windows, for example. [05:15] would this be designed for print, or as an onscreen doc? [05:16] I am truly torn between the two. I guess I could put a rough draft together and submit it as a PDF file. [05:17] The format is not 8 1/2 x 11. It's about half that size. It makes an ideal booklet. [05:17] get a basic proposal/outline together, and fire it off to the docteam mailing list [05:17] Excellent. [05:17] I was looking at it and thought it might be a good idea. [05:18] I kinda got a bit excited (as I am the excitable type) and did a cover for it in Inkscape. I wanted it to faintly resemble the Windows XP Pro Quick Start guide ... without being a complete rip off. [05:19] got the image up on the web somewhere? [05:20] Ooo. I should, eh? Lemme get that done. It'll take about 5 minutes. Cool? [05:20] I'll stay connected here and get that done immediately. [05:26] http://ubuntulinux.50webs.com/FrontCover.png [05:26] :-) [05:26] Done. [05:26] It's not an amazing resolution. But you get the drift. [05:28] While I have become less and less a fan of Microsoft I must admit their manuals are nicely laid out. And while I do not wish to tread on copyright issues I still think a booklet that covers the same essentials they cover would not be a bad idea. A printed copy would be uber cool. But a supplied PDF file would be just as good. [05:29] The text on the PNG file is not final. It's just a mock up for the black background. [05:29] I was going for a kind of "Ubuntu Ultimate" look. ;-) [05:30] black isn't really an Ubuntu colour [05:30] I like the basic layout, but go with tan/brown/etc, or just white [05:31] Is there a link where I can get the Hex colours? [05:31] I don't want to approximate the necessary colours. [05:31] :-) [05:31] just a sec, there are palettes available on the official artwork page [05:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official [05:32] Okay. Cool. I prefer to work with hex when it comes to colors. [05:33] Thanks for the reference. I'll begin the outline and rough draft and submit it to the docteam mailing list. [05:35] I did the covers for the printed Lulu-published versions of the Dapper docs. I'll package up the SVG files if you want something to work from. [05:36] Excellent. Any references you've got I'll gladly take and work with. [05:36] give me a few minutes to tar.gz everything. [05:36] No problem. === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:52] http://www.nixternal.com/kwww/announcements/7.04-release.php [05:52] anyone up for proofing? [05:52] hiya mpt [05:54] BobSongs, http://dev.wirelizard.ca/Lulu_Covers_SVG.tar.gz [05:54] LULU!!! [05:55] Merci beaucoup as they say here in Montreal. [05:55] gracias as they say here in Chicago [05:55] haha [05:56] Madpilot, I'll give the brown a try. Hope it looks good. I've got the palette in SVG format (yay!) so I'll continue to tweak the cover page. [05:56] BobSongs, did you do that first draft in Inkscape? [05:57] nixternal, Gracias in Chicago, eh? lol I guess Spanish is becoming very influential in the US. [05:57] at least here in Chicago it is [05:57] Madpilot, Yep. I really like it since the 0.45 release. [05:58] A big "thanks" to Google for the "Summer of Code" support. That resulted in blur added to the software. A very useful addition. In my opinion it bumps Inkscape up into 'professional' levels. [06:00] Sorry: slightly off topic. [06:00] However, I can always submit any graphics in SVG format. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:01] evening Burgundavia [06:02] hey Madpilot === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:02] need anything from Imperial Hobbies?\ [06:02] need, maybe. can afford, no. You doing NWLinuxFest via Vancouver, then? [06:04] no, going tomorrow for BCLA [06:05] cool. have fun. === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-220-136.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.124.198] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.124.198] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-34.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82_ [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === effie_jayx [n=l3ap@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["No] === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:37] mdke: h.u.c needs the 7.04 tab, and the Edubuntu handbook :) === bodhi_zazen [n=bodhizaz@stpete.helmednet.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@uwcfw2.uwc.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@uwcfw2.uwc.ac.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === shirish [n=Administ@59.95.21.151] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:49] can somebody help me in understanding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnPageCreation [04:50] CONGRATULATIONS DocTeam! Great job this release, now it is time to start thinking how to one up Feisty with Gutsy! [04:50] shirish: I would love to, but I am late to the uni from all of my Feisty release partying! [04:50] nixternal: I just need 2 minutes, thats all [04:50] I just need to know how to add the wikiname [04:50] ok make it quick :) [04:50] oh [04:51] OK, say I want to make a wiki page called ShirishRocks [04:51] I don't want to over-write anybody's page [04:51] I would do it like so [04:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShirishRocks [04:51] ok go on [04:51] if the page is not yet created, it will offer you with a link to create the page [04:51] ah ok that's how u do it [04:51] so you really don't have to worry about writing over someone elses page [04:52] if you click that link I posted with ShirishRocks you will see the page and the link to create a new page [04:52] that makes it easy, that should be actually added to the wiki mentioned, is it ok if I add that bit to it [04:52] sure, if it helps out feel free [04:52] thnx for your time :) [04:53] no problem [04:53] time to go be bored in school ;) [04:54] dang thats an immutable page, the help on creation [04:55] ah, ya I guess the help pages would be [04:55] anyway, would drop that on the mailing list somebody might be able to do something about it [04:55] thanx again :) === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Hidan [n=lucifiel@187.210-193-15.adsl.qala.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Hidan [n=lucifiel@187.210-193-15.adsl.qala.com.sg] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === shirish [n=Administ@59.95.21.151] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [07:00] how important is using the '--xinclude' flag when building HTML now if we aren't using xi:includes at all in our docs now? [07:01] reason being, pbuilder seriously hates the '--xinclude' flag causing the build time for translated kubuntu-docs to go for 8 hours [07:35] When is the 7.04 desktop guide going to be published? === cody [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034073142.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bronson_ [n=bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:46] there is no desktop guide :) === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boom82 [n=prinice@ip24-252-122-112.no.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc