[07:30] <CanadianMan_> hello
[10:35] <superm1> keescook, ping?
[10:36] <keescook> pong!
[10:36] <superm1> hi keescook .  happy feisty release :)
[10:36] <keescook> thanks! same to you!  :)
[10:36] <superm1> any ideas who is presenting this: http://www.ubuntulive.com/cs/ubuntu/view/e_sess/13454?
[10:36] <superm1> http://www.ubuntulive.com/cs/ubuntu/view/e_sess/13454 ? (no question mark in url)
[10:37] <superm1> or since there is no name yet, its to be determined?
[10:37] <keescook> I don't, I saw that too; I'm quite curious.
[10:37] <superm1> because if there is no one signed up yet, i am all over putting in a time off request and getting some friends to road trip up there
[10:37] <superm1> and host that session
[10:38] <keescook> hehe, that'd be cool.  I'll see if I can figure out who's giving it.
[10:38] <superm1> i'm assuming if you host a session, you dont pay the entrance fees for the event?
[10:38] <superm1> because its a bit pricey otherwise...
[10:38] <keescook> if it's anything like OSCon (which is the week after), that's correct.
[10:39] <superm1> you live up around that area don't you?  or am i mixing you up with the other coast?
[10:40] <superm1> well that area being relative, up on the northwest coast i mean
[10:40] <keescook> yup, I'm local.  (I'll be speaking at least during OSCon, and maybe during ULive)
[10:40] <superm1> awesome
[10:40] <superm1> there's definately some stuff i'd like to sit in on during ULive
[10:41] <superm1> how do the sessions work, are they like booths? or rooms assigned for a day?
[10:41] <superm1> or multiple days?
[10:42] <keescook> I'm less clear on u-live, but again, if it's like OSCon, there are "tutorials" and "sessions".  tutorials are a half-day, and sessions are 45 minutes.  both are in rooms.
[10:42] <keescook> there is usually a "vendor area" which is entirely booths
[10:42] <superm1> the "exhibition" hall i take it
[10:42] <superm1> from what i read - the "free" option
[10:43] <keescook> yeah, that's the free part.
[10:44] <superm1> well its roughly a 27 hour drive from where i'm staying this summer, so if i'm gonna come it will be for the sessions/tutorials then
[10:45] <keescook> generally a speaker gets free tutorials too; it's a good deal.
[10:45] <superm1> i doubt that my friends would get in free though too would they....?
[10:45] <superm1> only if they spoke/hosted with me i'd take it
[10:46] <keescook> right, that's my understanding.  I used to cheat: the OSDL (also local) used to get a few "free passes".
[10:47] <superm1> hehe
[10:47] <keescook> so co-workers could come listen to the stuff we spoke on.  :)
[10:48] <superm1> oh but theres student pricing too 65 percent off, thats not nearly as bad - especially if i make the weekend a little vacation exploring portland saturday and then enjoying this event sunday and monday, drive back tuesday
[10:48] <superm1> i'll talk this over with my buddies then and see how up for it they will be
[10:48] <superm1> any ideas who to contact then about who is hosting the mythtv session?
[10:48] <superm1> Derek Chase?
[10:49] <keescook> I sent email to ubuntu-ideas@, but if I don't hear back soon, I'll ping around internally to see if I can find out.
[10:49] <superm1> neat thanks
[11:17] <superm1> keescook, i was just thinking - maybe imbrandon suggested that MythTV be added to the sessions - he is on the list of registered guests
[11:18] <keescook> ah, cool.
[11:18] <superm1> i'll ask him next time i see him if we dont here back from the orielly guys first
[12:06] <Rtax> hello
[12:07] <Rtax> anyone here to give me a little help?
[12:07] <majoridiot> hola
[12:07] <majoridiot> what's up?
[12:07] <Rtax> I just installed feisty, then mythtv, and I broke it already
[12:08] <majoridiot> hehe
[12:08] <majoridiot> broke it how?
[12:08] <Rtax> everything was installed, and then I did a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common to change the mysql password and now I can't seem to get into mythtv-setup
[12:08] <Rtax> or run frontend or backend
[12:09] <majoridiot> you needed to change the mysql pasword?
[12:09] <Rtax> I think the password wasn't changed in mysql, and the original password was one of those random ones
[12:09] <majoridiot> or just wanted to?
[12:09] <Rtax> just wanted to
[12:09] <majoridiot> ah
[12:09] <majoridiot> ok
[12:09] <majoridiot> and you made that change with dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:09] <Rtax> yep
[12:09] <majoridiot> k
[12:10] <majoridiot> which installation did you do?
[12:10] <majoridiot> combined or separate backend?
[12:10] <Rtax> hmm, I think combined
[12:10] <majoridiot> all one one machine?
[12:11] <majoridiot> with or with desktop?
[12:11] <Rtax> yep
[12:11] <Rtax> one machine
[12:11] <majoridiot> regular desktop or alternate
[12:11] <Rtax> both mythtv-backend and mythtv-backend-master packages are installed
[12:11] <Rtax> desktop
[12:12] <majoridiot> k
[12:12] <majoridiot> edit your ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file
[12:12] <majoridiot> put the new password in the DBPASSDWORD=
[12:13] <Rtax> i don't have a mysql.txt file
[12:13] <Rtax> in my .mythtv dir ther is channesl, mythphone and themecache
[12:14] <majoridiot> hm
[12:14] <majoridiot> k
[12:14] <superm1> Rtax, which password did you want to change?
[12:14] <superm1> the mythtv mysql password?
[12:14] <superm1> or the root mysql password
[12:14] <Rtax> it may be more serious because backend doesn't seem to be starting
[12:14] <majoridiot> cp /etc/mysql/mysql.txt ~/home/mythtv
[12:14] <Rtax> mysql root is blank i think
[12:14] <Rtax> mythtv mysql password is what I was changing
[12:15] <superm1> Rtax,well.  Don't ;)
[12:15] <superm1> lol
[12:15] <Rtax> I know that NOW...
[12:15] <Rtax> doh
[12:16] <Rtax> tried running dpkg again, didn't fix it
[12:16] <superm1> it generates a new password
[12:16] <superm1> if you try to again
[12:16] <superm1> so, here is your best bet
[12:16] <superm1> purge the mythtv-database and mysql-server-5.0 packages
[12:16] <superm1> rm /etc/mythtv
[12:16] <superm1> and ~/.mythtv
[12:16] <superm1> and just install mythtv-backend-master again
[12:17] <Rtax> hmm, ok
[12:17] <superm1> you'll get a fresh database install, and all the passwords will be setup appropriately
[12:18] <Rtax> that will mean more downloads? or does it keep the deb file/?
[12:18] <superm1> the debs are still there
[12:18] <Rtax> awesome
[12:18] <superm1> unless you did apt-get clean
[12:18] <Rtax> i'll use synaptic
[12:19] <Rtax> complete remove option
[12:20] <superm1> exactly
[12:20] <Rtax> by the way, the install on feisty was super easy
[12:20] <Rtax> thats pretty cool.
[12:20] <superm1> Rtax, had to go and muck around with passwords though didnt ya....
[12:20] <majoridiot> :)
[12:21] <Rtax> I had a running system, then made the mistake of trying linuxmce
[12:21] <Rtax> that came out too soon
[12:21] <superm1> Rtax, how is it, i've only heard "of it"
[12:21] <superm1> but no usage or anything
[12:22] <Rtax> It took me a week to install
[12:22] <superm1> wow
[12:22] <Rtax> and then it was so confusing to configure, I thought 'screw it'
[12:23] <superm1> well at some point i'll sacrifice a VM session to take a look at it, and give it a fair analysis
[12:24] <Rtax> i wouldn't bother till it gets an update. Unfortunately I think they have released version 1.0 too soon without the support structure
[12:24] <Rtax> Pluto was just as bad
[12:25] <superm1> its just pluto repackaged for debian though isnt it?
[12:27] <superm1> and yes majoridiot you were right....
[12:27] <Rtax> pretty much, seems like a branch. But pluto was all commercially driven, making it obvious they preferred not to release their source code
[12:27] <Rtax> hey superm1, I know you from ubuntuforums, you the lirc expert?
[12:27] <superm1> yup
[12:27] <Rtax> hehe, you gonna be pestered by me shortly...
[12:28] <superm1> i dwelve all over things related to pvr's lately
[12:28] <superm1> ivtv, lirc, mythtv
[12:28] <Rtax> i am trying to get a home brew transmitter working, but that is for another day
[12:29] <superm1> Rtax, serial transmitter?