[12:17] <nixternal> orly. Nobody posted a Feisty story?
[12:18] <nixternal> I will leave the Ubuntu stuff up to Ubuntu people :)
[12:19] <Riddell> :)
[12:20] <nixternal> imbrandon: rock on with dot post!
[12:29] <Riddell> even if it was written by you :)
[12:36] <kwwii> Riddell: the update is still going, the one thing I noticed is that at the end, the estimated time seems to go away most of the time, reappearing shortly at whole numbers (so it showed "4 minutes remaining" for like 6 seconds)
[12:41] <wondering> I installed a stock command line installation with the kubuntu-alternate-i386 CD on my machine and I can't login with local user accounts through KDM.
[12:41] <wondering> Is this a known issue?
[12:41] <wondering> I can login from VT{1,6}, but not from KDM.
[12:41] <wondering> KDM doesn't say "Login Failed" (meaning I didn't enter my password incorrectly). Instead, it fades to black and then takes me back to KDM's greeter.
[12:43] <kwwii> wondering: have you looked at bugs.launchpad.net?
[12:43] <kwwii> I would guess that something like that would be a known issue
[12:43] <kwwii> can you run "startkde" from one of the text consoles?
[12:44] <snikker> i'm tring to update to feisty via adept, but an error message tell me to free about 15mb in /boot... now i've got 26mb free in /boot... i can't update?
[12:44] <kwwii> wondering: erm, I assume that you are running feisty?
[12:45] <kwwii> snikker: if the program says there is not enough room, I would guess not
[12:45] <kwwii> perhaps you could remove extra kernels or such
[12:46] <kwwii> bu I would be very carefull removing anything in /boot without knowing what you are doing
[12:46] <snikker> kwwii: i've already removed old kernel and so on...
[12:46] <kwwii> ouch
[12:47] <snikker> kwwii: my /boot partition is 36mb with 26mb of free space
[12:48] <kwwii> snikker: I would guess that it wants enough free space to copy new files there before it removes the old ones
[12:49] <snikker> kwwii: so the only way for me is delete all and reinstall a fresh one?
[12:50] <kwwii> snikker: I have no idea - I am not a dev, just an artist with lots of linux expierence
[12:50] <snikker> kwwii: oh, ok... sorry...
[12:50] <kwwii> I would suggest asking someone who knows more
[12:51] <nixternal> Riddell: do you have the Fridge power to submit?
[12:51] <snikker> ok, if someone know the answer, please help me...
[12:51] <nixternal> imbrandon: ^^
[12:52] <nixternal> you can resize it if you have space on your drive
[12:52] <nixternal> note: always dedicate at least 128mb for /boot partitions
[12:53] <kwwii> I was wondering (lol, nick joke) why someone would use so little for boot
[12:53] <snikker> nixternal: ok, i've free space on my drive... i can use qtparted for do that?
[12:54] <nixternal> I would think so
[12:54] <kwwii> snikker: yes, that should work
[12:54] <nixternal> can you extend with fdisk or no?
[12:54] <kwwii> I have had good experiences resizing with qtparted
[12:54] <nixternal> hrmm, maybe not, I think extending with fdisk requires a reformat
[12:54] <kwwii> nixternal: and it is a command line tool :-(
[12:54] <nixternal> heh, I live in the cli
[12:55] <snikker> nixternal: with fdisk? i've never tried to use it for resizing
[12:55] <nixternal> and in chi
[12:55] <nixternal> I can't remember, I have used the same partition setup forever because I once ran into similar issues years ago
[12:57] <snikker> i suppose that i must umount my / disk for resize it. it's true?
[12:58] <kwwii> funny thing about command line programs, you only blame yourself for messing things up when it does not go as planned, with gui apps you just get pissed at the app
[01:02] <kwwii> Riddell: the update got to the point of installing the new software and it says....
[01:03] <kwwii> Riddell: "Following is a list of detected services that need to be restarted. Please correct the list, if you think it is incorrect. The services names must be identical to the script names in /etc/init.d and must be separated by spaces. If you clear the list, no services will be restarted."
[01:03] <kwwii> Riddell: but there is no list of services, as the next sentence says If other services begin to fail mysteriously after this upgrade, it may be necessary to restart them too.  We strongly recommend you to reboot your machine to avoid the SSL related trouble.
[01:05] <kwwii> I just hit return, assuming that there are no processes to be restarted
[01:05] <wondering> kwwii: Yes, I already checked bugs. Yes, like I said, I'm using Feisty.
[01:07] <kwwii> wondering: then you should definitely enter a bug
[01:07] <kwwii> howdy Hobbsee
[01:07] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:07] <kwwii> a few weeks and we will finaly meet personally
[01:08] <Hobbsee> yay!
[01:08] <wondering> kwwii: "Definitely"?
[01:09] <kwwii> wondering: I have no other idea
[01:09] <wondering> kwwii: Figures.
[01:09] <kwwii> ?
[01:09] <kwwii> wondering: your problem seems very strange to me, never heard of anything like it
[01:10] <wondering> kwwii: Do you use Feisty?
[01:11] <kwwii> wondering: yes, on three computers
[01:11] <kwwii> well, 2 until now, but the third one (this one) is almost done updating
[01:12] <wondering> kwwii: And no problems yet?
[01:12] <wondering> kwwii: Do you have both KDM and KDE?
[01:12] <kwwii> wondering: no, no problems here and I have KDM and KDE installed on all of my machines
[01:13] <wondering> It worked in Feisty Beta, but now it doesn't work.
[01:13] <wondering> At least for me.
[01:13] <kwwii> such a problem would be a release stopper
[01:13] <kwwii> so it is some localized problem, I would guess
[01:30] <wondering> How would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?
[01:30] <wondering> I've tried Reconstructor, UCK, and a few others with no success.
[01:31] <wondering> It would be a custom CD.
[01:32] <kwwii> too much for me
[01:59] <ryanakca> marseillai: CDBS?
[02:10] <jjesse> hey Riddell congrats on another release, along w/ all other developers
[02:18] <ryanakca> kind of redundant, importing it from the UK and then sending it back, don't you think?
[03:22] <danohuiginn> anybody know what's going on with all the hwdb bugs? (bug #91948 and the like)
[03:22] <ubotu> Malone bug 91948 in hwdb-client "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in assemble()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91948
[03:38] <danohuiginn> ah. "Submissions Total: 600253 Today: 394027", says the hardware database site. I can see that causing a few problems ;)
[04:56] <acidBURN> are the archives unfrozen, for updates?
[09:30] <_marseillais> hi
[09:31] <\sh> moins...and congrats to everbody who was involved to make feisty happen :)
[09:31] <_marseillais> i got a question for manslide packaging. I need to do a qmake then a make to compile it. So I add in debian/rules qmake includes of CDBS, but i don't know if it's enough
[09:32] <_marseillais> i think he doesn't do the make part because my .deb is empty
[01:47] <ScottK> Riddell: The saga of my laptop upgrade is finally, succesfully (as you predicted) over.  Very smooth process.  The only oddity is that it warned my several packages would be removed if Universe wasn't enabled.  Since that's now default, it seems like an obsolete check.
[01:48] <ScottK> The upgrades took all day to download and finished just as I had to leave for the evening.  I didn't get a chance to reboot it until this morning.
[01:52] <Riddell> ScottK: excellent, thanks for that
[01:52] <Riddell> ScottK: universe is enabled by default on new installs but not on upgrades
[01:53] <ScottK> Ah.
[01:53] <ScottK> Makes sense then.
[01:53] <ScottK> That's actually quite reasonable.
[02:19] <snikker> i'm tring to umount my /boot partition with no success: device busy. how can i workaround this?
[02:20] <sebas> "lsof /boot" and stop the processes that are shown. Then try again.
[02:20] <snikker> sebas: thanks :)
[02:21] <sebas> You're welcome
[02:43] <MidMark> with kubuntu feisty and gdm only options available from kde is to end session (no reboot, no halt, nothing else) is it known?
[02:43] <MidMark> tried kdm all is ok
[02:43] <Riddell> I've heard this yes
[02:44] <Riddell> but I didn't know it was any different in edgy, I thought ksmserver never talked to gdm
[02:45] <MidMark> Riddell: with edgy I was able to do all the stuff, now with Feisty the only option available is end sessions, others aren't shown
[02:45] <Riddell> _StefanS_: any ideas why?
[02:46] <MidMark> I have back to kdm but I don't like it so much, because there is no themes for users list until kde 4.0
[02:48] <MidMark> Riddell: I can file a bug, tried to search but I haven't seen nothing
[02:48] <Riddell> MidMark: go ahead
[02:49] <Riddell> there is a way to switch back to the old logout screen, I wonder if that would fix it
[02:49] <MidMark> I can try to provide more informations in the br
[02:49] <MidMark> how can I do it?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> oh man...what's the deal with lecturers giving assignments on the last day of holidays, due on the 4th. :(
[02:50] <Hobbsee> (of may)
[02:51] <MidMark> Riddell: which package is responsible for this bug? gdm? kdm?
[02:52] <Riddell> kdm which is in kdebase
[02:52] <Riddell> so kdebase
[02:53] <MidMark> ok
[02:54] <Riddell> try doFancyLogout=false in ksmserverrc
[02:54] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I dont know why, and I haven't seen that gdm should talk to ksmserver or vice versa
[02:55] <Riddell> I've seen a few people complain about it for feisty
[02:55] <Riddell> I've never tested it for edgy
[02:56] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hmm I will have to reproduce it, could you write me an instruction and I will look at it over the weekend
[02:56] <Riddell> write where?
[02:59] <_StefanS_> Riddell: an email :)
[03:00] <_StefanS_> Riddell: or it is simple to do ?
[03:00] <Riddell> can do
[03:00] <_StefanS_> good. I will have to go now.
[03:01] <MidMark> bug #108070
[03:01] <ubotu> Malone bug 108070 in kdebase "kubuntu feisty doesn't show reboot, halt and hibernate buttons if gdm is set as default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108070
[03:01] <MidMark> Riddell now I try your suggestion
[03:02] <kwwii> I noticed that a long time ago and thought it was set like that on purpose
[03:03] <Riddell> kwwii: but have you noticed it working with gdm in the past?
[03:03] <ScottK> nixternal: There are Gutsy repos now.  Your friends can start upgrading: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/
[03:03] <kwwii> Riddell: I never installed gdm before working on ubuntu :-)
[03:03] <ScottK> There was a bug on this already I saw recently (the GDM thing).
[03:05] <MidMark> where is ksmserverrc?
[03:05] <Riddell> kwwii: but did it work in edgy?
[03:06] <Riddell> MidMark: ~/.kde/share/config/
[03:08] <MidMark> where? [$Version] , [General]  or [Session: saved at previous logout] ?
[03:08] <kwwii> Riddell: I don't know as I didn't use it until I had feisty installed
[03:09] <kwwii> my edgy machine which I updated yesterday is pure kde only
[03:09] <snikker> with adept, i've got this error:  AttributeError: KDECdromProgressAdapter instance has no attribute 'progressbar'
[03:10] <Riddell> snikker: known problem, are you running the upgrader from the CD?
[03:10] <snikker> Riddell: yes
[03:11] <snikker> Riddell: can i workaround this?
[03:11] <MidMark> try to reboot will see after
[03:13] <Riddell> snikker: yes
[03:13] <Riddell> mkdir upgrader; cd upgrader; wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/feisty.tar.gz; tar xf feisty.tar.gz
[03:14] <Riddell> sudo python dist-upgrader.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE
[03:14] <snikker> Riddell: ok, thanks. i try now
[03:14] <Jucato> Riddell: <chandra> jucato: yes...I got to that point.  It finally said to click on Finish to close Adept.  I did that and Adept remained open and nothing else happened. <--- do we still need to close Adept manually before the upgrader runs?
[03:15] <MidMark> Riddell: put doFancyLogout=false in [General]  still new logout
[03:15] <Riddell> Jucato: it's the ugprader that closes adept
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Jucato: be careful of chandra
[03:15] <Riddell> Jucato: if it doesn't run there's a problem with it
[03:15] <Riddell> Jucato: what output on the command line?
[03:15] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Jucato: he trolls, requires everything on a silver platter
[03:15] <Jucato> Riddell: oh not me.. chandra's having problems... but Hobbsee says to beware :/
[03:20] <snikker> Riddell: just a question... but with " sudo python dist-upgrader.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE" i update fron the net and not from cd, it's true?
[03:21] <ScottK> Jucato: Same thing happened to me.  I thought Adept was done, but it wasn't.  Wait
[03:21] <Jucato> Hobbsee: unfortunately it's problems like his that we need to look into right now, the dist-upgrade tool I mean..
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahh.  well if it's a real problem, fine - but he's been troublesome in -motu before
[03:22] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yeah it's a real, and probably familiar problem with the dist-upgrade tool...
[03:22] <Riddell> snikker: hmm, possibly, I've actually never done a cd upgrade
[03:23] <MidMark> Riddell: tried all, but new logout is still here
[03:23] <Hobbsee> ScottK: kdebase
[03:23] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thanks.
[03:23] <Jucato> MidMark: oh hold on for a while, I think doFancyLogout isn't the correct setting
[03:24] <MidMark> Jucato: ok
[03:24] <Jucato> MidMark: add "doUbuntuLogout = 0" in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc to get the old logout back
[03:24] <MidMark> Jucato: here seems yes, but doesn't work https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-patches/2007-February/006193.html
[03:25] <snikker> Riddell: you know if i can update from cd without using the net? (i don't have a broadband connection)
[03:25] <MidMark> Jucato: try
[03:26] <Jucato> MidMark: afaik, the doFancyLogout controls the fade effect
[03:26] <Jucato> ah he left...
[03:27] <MidMark> Jucato: put doUbuntuLogout=0 under [General]  doesn't work
[03:27] <Jucato> MidMark: oh no, under [Logout] 
[03:27] <Jucato> sorry, left that out...
[03:27] <ScottK> MidMark: Does Bug #50471 look like the same problem you are having?
[03:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 50471 in kubuntu-meta "No shutdown option (button) visible" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50471
[03:28] <Jucato> MidMark: doFancyLogout and doUbuntuLogout should be under [Logout] 
[03:28] <MidMark> Jucato: ok
[03:28] <ScottK> Heya bddebian.
[03:29] <Jucato> ScottK: I think that bug is more with GDM being used to start KDE.
[03:29] <MidMark> ScottK: similar, but keep in mind that: I have no buttons other than end session, in the bug only halt is missing, and in Edgy was ok, Feisty breaks this
[03:29] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:29] <bddebian> Hi ScottK
[03:29] <Jucato> afaik they said it has been fixed in edgy but seems to be back in feisty
[03:29] <ScottK> Jucato: I agree.  Crimsun agreed with you too.
[03:30] <Jucato> :D
[03:30] <Jucato> hi bddebian
[03:30] <ScottK> I haven't found the bug yet that he said to reassign to GDM, but they looked at it and assigned it back.
[03:30] <bddebian> Heya Jucato
[03:32] <MidMark> ok also with old logout the problem persists
[03:32] <MidMark> I have ended only session I think it's enough
[03:32] <Jucato> MidMark: yes. the bug has nothing to do with the new logout dialog
[03:34] <MidMark> ok all info inserted into the BR
[03:34] <MidMark> don't know if it's a duplicate or not
[03:43] <Riddell> soon
[03:43] <MidMark> good Feisty introduced driver to see video for my webcam but broke audio mic from it...... probably a day will work at 100%
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: the correct answer is "two days after the last person asked"
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: not soon.
[03:45] <Riddell> or "once I've cleared my e-mail backlog"
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Riddell: send it to /dev/null
[03:45] <Hobbsee> that always helps
[03:46] <zakame> good evening
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hiya zakame!
[03:47] <zakame> heya Hobbsee! :)
[03:47] <zakame> congrats to all :D
[03:50] <allee> uhm, kopete does not allow to add ICQ contact :(
[03:50] <ScottK> or rather upgrade
[03:51] <zakame> its been a long while
[03:54] <allee> zakame: yeah, used ICQ only once ages ago
[03:59] <ScottK> MidMark: There is also bug 64695
[03:59] <ubotu> Malone bug 64695 in kdebase "KDE logout dialog is missing shutdown and restart options" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64695
[04:00] <allee> bbl soccer time
[04:06] <MidMark> ScottK: yes this is the same than mine, cannot found because I was continuing to put gdm in the search that is the cause of the bug
[04:06] <MidMark> however seems reported when edgy was out
[04:06] <ScottK> OK.  Please mark yours a duplicate of that one.
[04:07] <MidMark> ok
[04:07] <ScottK> Most of the commenters are on Feisty, so it seems you are not the only one.
[04:08] <Riddell> but it was reported before stefan's new logout stuff went in
[04:08] <Riddell> so it's just something that has always been the case
[04:09] <ScottK> Riddell: Wishlist or Medium?  Is this a supported use case?
[04:09] <MidMark> anyway seems I haven't permission to put as duplicate or then I don't know how to do
[04:10] <Arby> since we're in bug triage mode, how do I go about processing bug 62896
[04:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 62896 in k3b "SATA drive won't burn CD or DVD" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/62896
[04:10] <Arby> this is fixed for me and at least one other person in feisty
[04:10] <Arby> does it need more confirmation first?
[04:12] <Riddell> Arby: no but tell them to reopen if they still have the problem
[04:12] <Arby> Riddell: so it can be closed as fix released?
[04:13] <ScottK> Arby: Yes
[04:13] <Arby> ok thanks
[04:13] <Arby> bugs -1 :)
[04:14] <ScottK> Since Riddell doesn't say, I'm deciding it's a Medium.
[04:15] <Arby> OK, I'm just trying to learn the whole bug triage process
[04:16] <ScottK> Arby: Are you on #ubuntu-bugs
[04:16] <Arby> I'm still fairly bemused but I'll get there
[04:16] <Arby> yes
[04:16] <Arby> just lurking for now until I see how it works
[04:17] <Riddell> Arby: yay
[04:17] <Arby> Riddell: expect lots of questions, of varying naivity.
[04:18] <Jucato> Arby: there's also an #ubuntu-bugs channel if you're interested. and the Ubuntu Bug Squad team :)
[04:18] <Arby> Jucato: already in #ubuntu-bugs
[04:18] <ScottK> Jucato: I'm talking to him there
[04:18] <Jucato> kool :)
[04:19] <Arby> yes, I'm getting confused :)
[04:19] <Arby> too many channels
[04:19] <Jucato> too many channels make me dizzy :D
[04:19] <zakame> hmm the `/dev/sd?? and /dev/{evms,mapper}/sd?? double swap bug' is still here :/
[04:19] <zakame> I'm checking LP now, see what's up
[04:33] <MidMark> oh yes I have that bug too, my swap was 2 GB now is 4 lol
[04:34] <zakame> how I wish the CPU speed that got doubled :P
[04:36] <MidMark> :)
[04:36] <MidMark> bug #96715
[04:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 96715 in linux-source-2.6.20 "double swap space usage" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96715
[05:23] <ScottK> Riddell: I think there is somether very subtle going on with either Python/Python Support in Feisty or kde-guidance.  We seem to be accumulating a variety of import error bugs (note that the first one of the list has 24 dupes).  I think it's worth a really focused look at what's going on under the hood.  I don't know enough unfortunately.  See http://tinyurl.com/2by4ga
[06:08] <ScottK> Riddell: I've asked doko and he's taking a look.
[06:45] <nixternal> what is 'Build-Depends-Indep' used for? It is in the kubuntu-docs package and Lintian doesn't approve of it. Also I am trying to figure out why building a doc pkg with translations takes 8 hours
[06:46] <nixternal> well that was meant for motu
[06:46] <nixternal> :)
[06:47] <ScottK> It shouldn't affect how long it takes to build.
[06:48] <nixternal> this is nuts, I hate this package
[06:48] <nixternal> it is my nemesis
[07:02] <shentey> hi! if i had a kubuntu-specific patch, where should i send it?
[07:02] <sebas> kubuntu-devel for example.
[07:02] <sebas> @lists.ubuntu.com FWIW
[07:02] <sebas> hi shentey
[07:02] <ScottK> shentey: For what bug?
[07:03] <ScottK> Don't mail patches to the mailing list
[07:04] <shentey> it's just a very small patch
[07:04] <shentey> regarding konqueror
[07:06] <Jucato> probably better in Malone (bugtracker)?
[07:13] <shentey> thanks, malone seems to be a good idea, gonna check this out!
[07:17] <ScottK> Yes.  Find the relevant bug or file one if there isn't and attach the patch.
[07:21] <Jucato> hm... we're having lots  of problems with the dist-upgrade tool not running... :(
[07:24] <ScottK> Ran fine for me.
[07:25] <ScottK> I had had 3.5.6 installed on Edgy.  Are the people who have problems all people who were on 3.5.5?
[07:32] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org <= is this booged for everyone else?
[07:34] <Arby> nixternal: yes, it's taking ages to load
[07:36] <ScottK> VERY slow
[07:37] <nixternal> k
[07:37] <nixternal> just makin' sure it wasn't me
[07:37] <ScottK> Connetectivity is good... PING wiki.kubuntu.org (82.211.81.231) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 82.211.81.231: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=84.4 ms
[07:38] <nixternal> Riddell: I can't figure out how to speed up the translated docs building
[07:48] <ScottK> nixternal: It eventually loaded (the wiki), but it's pretty borked.  http://www.kitterman.com/kubuntu/wiki.png is on a current Feisty box.
[08:14] <nixternal> DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE:  => if I was to add .xml .ent .xsl .html to this, then those types of files wouldn't be compressed correct?
[08:15] <nixternal> would this make building any faster, since those are the 4 main files for this package?
[08:17] <ScottK> motu
[08:17] <nixternal> well i am givin' it a try
[08:20] <ScottK> That's another approach that would work.
[08:44] <alex_g> hi
[09:00] <mhb> evening
[09:50] <nixternal> you know, this kubuntu-docs package is a pain
[09:50] <fdoving> problems?
[09:50] <nixternal> like you wouldn't believe
[09:51] <nixternal> Edgy can build out in an hour with translations
[09:51] <nixternal> Feisty, 8 hours
[09:51] <nixternal> we need to rethink this package
[09:51] <fdoving> hoh.
[09:51] <fdoving> 8 hours.
[09:51] <fdoving> what takes so long?
[09:51] <nixternal> I could cheat it, build the html locally as it takes only 20 minutes, then just use the package to dh_install everything from the build/
[09:51] <nixternal> xmltproc --xinclude -o fdjaljfdal
[09:51] <fdoving> ok.
[09:51] <nixternal> the actually building of xml to html
[09:52] <nixternal> there are 18 documents with 20+ translations each
[09:52] <fdoving> compared to what for edgy?
[09:52] <nixternal> 3
[09:52] <fdoving> ok. :)
[09:52] <nixternal> desktopguide, server guide, and packaging guide
[09:52] <nixternal> 4, about-kubuntu as well
[09:53] <nixternal> it is a pbuilder thing most definitely
[09:53] <fdoving> why use pbuilder then?
[09:53] <nixternal> because I can make all of the documentation in the repos in 20 minutes
[09:53] <fdoving> debuild?
[09:53] <nixternal> what else can I use?
[09:53] <nixternal> derr
[09:53] <nixternal> I haven't used debuild
[09:53] <fdoving> it's nice.
[09:54] <nixternal> is there info in the packaging guide about using it?
[09:54] <fdoving> 'debuild -us -uc' inside the unpacked source. wil build the package without signing.
[09:54] <nixternal> what do the build servers use?
[09:54] <fdoving> no idea.
[09:54] <nixternal> ya, but I use pbuilder to test build it
[09:54] <fdoving> i belive the buildservers use wanna-build and sbuild
[09:55] <nixternal> dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k2e2c0124   <- that is what i use to create the necessary build files, then use pbuilder to build it
[09:56] <fdoving> ok.
[09:56] <fdoving> if you just drop the -S it'll make packages.
[10:15] <nixternal> WHOA!!!
[10:15] <nixternal> debuild is way way faster, it is working like a champ
[10:17] <ScottK> nixternal: Instead of dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa etc. you can debuild -S -sa and get the same result (plus it'll call lintian and linda at the end if they are installed).
[10:18] <ScottK> No messing around remembering what your key is....
[10:21] <nixternal> does this build a .deb or no?
[10:26] <ScottK> That's for a source package (equivalent to your dpkg-buildpackage command).
[10:27] <ScottK> debuild -us -uc makes unsigned source and binary (.deb)
[10:32] <nixternal> haha, I am getting flack for the Kubuntu only release story on the fridge :)
[10:39] <fdoving> 'command-not-found' is very annoying.
[11:19] <nixternal> Riddell: what to do sir? pbuilder will build it in half a day :) and debuild does it in 20 minutes
[11:19] <nixternal> kubuntu-docs that is
[11:25] <_StefanS_> evening
[11:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I just upgraded my wifes laptop from edgy to feisty, never saw the kubuntu updater even though I followed the instructions. However it worked anyhow using dist-upgrade, and dpkg --configure -a
[11:26] <_StefanS_> Riddell: So nevertheless its nice.