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rjbBCM43xx wireless in feisty, anyone? what's the support status?12:15
pvandewyngaerdeis it possible to play flash with kubuntu 64 ?12:16
Ch1ppyhey, so I started upgrading to feisty through adept_manager, and in my silliness (don't ask) I canceled it in the middle of downloading & installing packages.  Now adept_manager isn't letting me use the handy upgrade program anymore... any suggestions?12:17
Daisuke_Idobroadcom.  chances are the support's the same as it always has been and always will be.  nonexistant.  ndiswrapper for you!  (this post may be slightly inaccurate, but it made the writer a little happier, so lay off)12:17
Ch1ppyall my repos are set to feisty right now12:17
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coreymon77ive got an idea12:20
coreymon77dont use a broadcom chip card12:20
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: if it's built in, there's not much choice, sadly12:21
coreymon77why are the es.archive.ubuntu.com repos so slow and take so long to connect to (pausing at "waiting for headers for a long time)12:21
Daisuke_Idoi'd recommend the same thing, but that's not always a possibility12:21
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coreymon77us not es12:21
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Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: i'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because a ton of people are upgrading right now because feisty was released today12:22
Daisuke_Idoall the repos are slow :\12:22
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wonderingNow that this channel officially supports Feisty, a Feisty question: I installed a stock kubuntu-alternate-i386 installation on my machine and I can't login with local user accounts through KDM.12:23
wonderingIs this a known bug?12:23
Daisuke_Idowondering: oem install?12:24
wonderingDaisuke_Ido: Command line install and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:24
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Daisuke_Idohmm12:24
Daisuke_Idono idea12:24
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wonderingThis wasn't something that I noticed in the Feisty beta.12:24
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rjbre Broadcom: i run it with ndiswrapper on edgy, has worked fine ever since i've had this machine12:26
rjbthe reason i'm concerned about feisty is, edgy's most recent kernel update seems to break ndiswrapper12:26
Daisuke_Idothen recompile ndiswrapper12:26
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rjbi use the packaged ndiswrapper12:27
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rjbwhy t.f. should i need to recompile it12:27
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Daisuke_Idowhy t.f. shouldn't you?12:27
rjbit's a kernel module that's part of the distro for chrissake12:28
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Daisuke_Idothe ndiswrapper included with feisty is already outdated12:28
Daisuke_Ido(assuming they're still using 1.30)12:28
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rjbyeah that's why i'm not assuming it will work without firt asking folks who might know12:28
yaccinhow can i run a gtk-application? -_-12:29
rjbfirst asking, even12:29
coreymon77yaccin: just run it12:29
Daisuke_Idoi would try it12:29
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yaccincoreymon77: doesnt work :P12:29
yaccini get errors12:29
yaccinbut12:29
coreymon77yaccin: what program is this12:29
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yaccinwwhen i run them as root it works12:29
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yaccinits vlc, gimp and thunderbird12:29
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Twistedis feisty considered beta or stable?12:29
tekteenstable12:30
Daisuke_IdoTwisted: read the topic12:30
coreymon77Twisted: as of today, stable12:30
Twistedoh. duh. thanks12:30
wonderingTwisted: It's supposedly stable, but I can't even login from KDM from a stock kubuntu installation.12:30
Daisuke_Idoit's out, official, released, fo' real yo', all good in da hood, pick your euphemism :)12:30
Twistedyikes12:30
tekteendid u install since stable12:30
qsuso people, anyway  on feisty already12:30
tekteendid u upgrade to it using apt-get12:30
Daisuke_Idoanecdotal evidence != bad OS12:30
Twistedmethinks i'm a little behind then12:31
yaccinqsu: for weeks :P12:31
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GrahamYay! Packages downloaded! Now I'm upgrading to 7.04!12:31
coreymon77im having trouble with it12:31
yaccinerr12:31
yaccinfor months12:31
yaccincoreymon77: so...? ^^12:31
goatimushi all - need clues for a botched kubuntu 6.10 install...12:31
coreymon77yaccin: oh, your gtk must be messed, what are you running?12:31
yaccinfeisty12:32
coreymon77yaccin: what version12:32
coreymon77yaccin: stable12:32
coreymon77?12:32
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yaccinstable what?12:32
coreymon77yaccin: the stable feisty or the beta feisty12:32
yaccinthere is no bety feisty12:32
Daisuke_IdoBAH!  can't even download the release announcement12:32
yaccino.O12:32
stoftDaisuke_Ido: you n me both :(12:33
Daisuke_Idoyaccin: if you downloaded it before today there is12:33
coreymon77yaccin: have you upgraded today12:33
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yaccinnot if you upgrade12:33
yaccinbut its a fresh install12:33
yaccinbut i had the same problem with the old install12:33
Daisuke_Idothere were beta isos too12:33
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tekteenwhat u sould do NOW is fresh install or alt. cd12:33
coreymon77yaccin: WHEN DID YOU GET FEISTY12:33
coreymon77yaccin: oops12:33
tekteenDO NOT DO WEB UPDATE12:33
yaccini downloaded and isntalled today12:33
yaccinso it is the stable12:33
yaccinyes12:34
coreymon77yaccin: sorry, didnt know caps was on12:34
yaccin...12:34
Grahamtekteen: Nothing wrong with the web update. Worked fine for me, only took me an hour.12:34
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Daisuke_Idowish me luck12:34
Daisuke_Idoupdating :D12:34
coreymon77umm12:34
Daisuke_Idostoft: keep trying12:34
Daisuke_Idoit'll go through12:34
coreymon77i went through the thing where it downloads the upgrade tool12:34
coreymon77it then said click finish to close adept and run the upgrade tool12:35
tekteenI've bee WEB UPDATING for quite a few hours12:35
JisaoDo you know of any torrent software staying linked when it's done downloading?12:35
coreymon77i pressed finish and adept isnt closing12:35
stoftDaisuke_Ido: went through the first part, got stuck on the next, gonna leave it to tomorrow, need to get some sleep.12:35
giovaniI tried installing using the desktop i386 installer -- and got to three different points of booting by trying "media check" "safe graphics" and "install" booting12:35
tekteenSince I got home from school12:35
coreymon77nor is any upgrade tool starting12:35
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stoftJisao: most torrent sw switches to "seed" when having finished a dl.12:35
_JohnyI tried to make a web update updating to feisty. Some erorrs occured and I had to reinstall the entire system - It wouldn't boot12:35
tekteen4:15 hours left of DOWNLOAD12:35
giovaniin all three cases ... the keyboard stops responding, however a cursor is blinking in the terminal after all of the services ubuntu managed to start12:35
Grahamtekteen: Where are you?12:35
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tekteen?12:36
tekteenWhat do u mean12:36
Grahamtekteen: Where do you live?12:36
coreymon77yaccin: my upgrade tool isnt working12:36
tekteencant say12:36
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tekteenNY12:36
GrahamThat'll be why.12:36
tekteenok12:36
JisaoLooks like I can't do that on the one I used :-(   I wanted to seed the Kubuntu I got today.12:36
tekteenNY matters12:36
GrahamServer is in the UK isn't it?12:36
tekteen?12:36
stofteast coast just got home from work and wants to upgrade... ;)12:37
giovaniI'm in NY -- 22 minutes to download from the us.releases site12:37
tekteenI am afraid to use alt. cd12:37
tekteenIt might not work12:37
coreymon77guys12:38
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Jisaowhym tekteen?te12:38
coreymon77my update tool isnt loading12:38
Stromberghey12:38
tekteenI started WEB UPDATE12:38
goatimusanyone here familiar with how to troubleshoot packages that should have installed but didn't?12:38
coreymon77my web update isnt owkrin12:38
tekteenI am afraid it has done to much12:38
Jisaomine either, coreymon7712:38
coreymon77update too isnt opening12:38
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tekteenIf I stop it it might not work12:38
Strombergis anyone else having problems with 7.04 and knetworkmanager? i want to connect to my wpa network and it says "Configuring device" and then simply stops after some time12:38
yaccinahhh12:38
yaccini did a rm .gtk*12:38
yaccinand now it works12:38
yaccin:)12:39
snikkeri'm tring to update to feisty via adept, but an error message tell me to free about 15mb in /boot... now i've got 26mb free in /boot... i can't update?12:39
GrahamWait, is Fiesty going to try and configure my wireless?12:39
yaccinsry12:39
yaccin:/12:39
yaccintekwhy?12:39
yaccincoreymon77: servers are too busy12:39
coreymon77does anyone know why my update tool isnt openign12:39
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coreymon77and where is this version upgrade button12:39
Grahamcoreymon77: Is your 6.10 install fully up to date?12:40
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coreymon77i believe so12:40
coreymon77the window to download the tool appeared12:40
amigravekubuntu hardware database collection program freezes my computer ;-) Can't even Ctrl-Alt-F1, the mouse cursor still moves but I can't click on anything12:40
tekteenyou need to run update-manager12:40
Strombergdid anyone get his WPA to work with 7.04 ?12:40
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: fetch updates, upgrade, quit, restart adept, fetch updates again12:40
coreymon77just after i pressed finish, adept didnt close and update tool didnt open12:40
tekteenThen it will show the upgrade button12:40
snikkeri must erase all my hd and reinstall?12:41
raven301Has anyone had luck getting their wireless to work in 7.04 ... mine worked in the beta but.12:41
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Strombergraven301, WPA-PSK?12:41
raven301wep12:42
Strombergwith network-manager?12:42
Daisuke_Idough, i hate wep anyway :D12:42
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N0Lif3|lappycool, Kubuntu is upgrading to 7.0412:42
Strombergit refuses to connect to my WPA here :/12:42
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: when i press full upgrade, it looks like its gonna upgrade the stuff to feisty anyways12:42
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Daisuke_Idothen go for it :)12:42
raven301Stromberg, with systemsetting12:42
Daisuke_Idowhat's the worst that can happen?12:43
Daisuke_Idoooh, poor choice of words, sorry12:43
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: my system fucks12:43
xstI have two soundcards. How do I select which of them that should be my default soundcard?12:43
Daisuke_Idotake a look at one or two of the upgradable packages and see what the candidate version is12:43
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dettoaltrimentiif I'm searching for something in an html document (using Kate), that comes between two quotes like this: "title="hello hello"", is there any way I can search for each instance of that, and have the 'hello hello' part highlighted?12:44
Strombergi hate this wireless network configuring shit... linux is so bad at it12:44
Daisuke_Ido!language12:44
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:44
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1really3.5.512:44
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: its all kde stuff12:44
coreymon77Stromberg: what card12:45
Daisuke_Idoyou need to install that12:45
os2macStromberg; what's your problem?12:45
Strombergtnet1130 with ndiswrapper12:45
hagabakaI usually use KDM; if X crashes on start up, and I get the command line login prompt, after fixing xorg.conf, what's the correct way to start up KDM again?12:45
Strombergremoved acx111 already12:45
Daisuke_Idoyou installed 3.5.6 on edgy, didn't you?12:45
Strombergthen ndiswrappered12:45
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: yup12:45
Daisuke_Idoyep12:45
Daisuke_Idoinstall those packages12:45
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Strombergnetwork-manager detects my wireless network12:45
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay12:45
Daisuke_Idocan't upgrade to feisty with 3.5.6 installed :)12:45
Daisuke_Idoproblem solved!12:45
coreymon77Stromberg: what chipset does your card use12:45
N0Lif3|lappyStromberg: I haven't had to deal with wireless on linux. Right now, i'm connected to the net via a 50ft cat5 to a router :p12:45
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Strombergbut then only says "Configuring device" when trying to connect12:45
GrahamSo is the Fiesty wireless support supposed to be really good?12:46
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coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: i just made sure i got a card with an atheros chipset12:46
Strombergtexas instruments chip: tnet113012:46
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coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: mine worked out of the box, just a simple iwconfig command12:46
Daisuke_Idoatheros, ralink, all cool12:46
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os2macGraham: mine works great and has never worked in an earlier version of Kubuntu12:46
Daisuke_Idobroadcom, evil evil EVIL12:46
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Daisuke_Idoooh, fetching file 1 of 91112:47
os2macand I am Broadcom....12:47
N0Lif3|lappyI want to get wifi, but i'm just too cheap to sink $50 on a wifi card12:47
Strombergit just sucks seems to be a problem with knetworkmanager here12:47
Daisuke_Idoos2mac: and it worked out of the box in feisty?12:47
coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: mine was much cheaper than that12:47
os2macget a cheap card.. it will likely work in Linux.12:47
dopeyoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?12:47
GrahamThing is, it takes me ages to get my wireless working because it acts like a bell end. I don't want it to screw with my wireless again.12:47
N0Lif3|lappycoreymon77: orly?12:47
giovanios2mac: most modern cards WON'T work12:47
GrahamI say if it works, don't f*** with it.12:47
giovanithey've gone with cheap broadcom chips12:48
coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: no, airlink10112:48
coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: it has an atheros chipset12:48
os2macDaisuke... yes until the .5 version of network mangler but it's fixed again.12:48
coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: worked out of the box in linux12:48
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coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: all it needed was an iwconfig command to enter my essid and wep key12:48
os2macgiovani.. I run broadcom and they work fine.12:48
Daisuke_Idogiovani: the newer pci linsys cards are ralink12:48
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xtreemhey12:48
Eyelesshow do i resume the upgrade if the updater crashed mid upgrade?12:48
giovaniatheros is the best bet for modern cards -- and atheros supports injection12:49
Eyelessaptitude wont run12:49
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Daisuke_Idoatheros is nice12:49
xtreemdoes anyone know how to use Kubuntu with QEMU?12:49
giovanierr, injection while in RFMON*12:49
Daisuke_IdoEyeless: update-manager?12:49
Eyelessnor adept12:49
dopeyoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?12:49
coreymon77os2mac: no ndiswrapper with my card12:49
dopeyoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?12:49
dopewqoop12:49
xtreem?12:49
dopes12:49
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EyelessDaisuke_Ido: yeah, that should be the one (the distro update tool)12:49
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os2maccoreymoon77 nore me.12:49
GrahamWhat does /etc/host.conf do again?12:49
zblachhey. congrats on the 704 release12:49
Daisuke_IdoEyeless: will it run?12:50
xtreemI have the 6.06 LTS release CD, can I run this using QEMU somehow?12:50
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Daisuke_Idothat reminds me, i need tunes12:50
zblachquick questionl w32codecs12:50
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zblachthere a feisty package?12:50
N0Lif3|lappyoh man, this upgrade is huge. this is going to take a while. :S12:50
xtreem?12:50
zblach!w32codecs12:50
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs12:50
EyelessDaisuke_Ido: cant find it, closest thing is update-mime12:51
xtreemanyone?12:51
Daisuke_Idohrmm12:51
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xtreemcan I use QEMU with this?12:52
xtreemkubuntu 6.06 LTS release CD12:52
Daisuke_Idowhy wouldn't you be able to?12:52
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coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: my card was less than $30 canadian and its the best wirelss card i have ever had12:52
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coreymon77and i have had 412:53
xtreemwell how would I?12:53
Daisuke_Idoi dunno12:53
N0Lif3|lappycoreymon77:  where did you buy it?12:53
XrMb2i need a Feisty 7.04-live-CD, does anyone know where i can find that..?12:53
coreymon77N0Lif3|lappy: its out of stock12:53
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xtreemI know to type qemu.exe -L . -hda image_name.img, but what about for a CD?12:53
Daisuke_IdoXrMb2: this PAINS ME, but try kubuntu.org!12:53
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Daisuke_Idoxtreem: i don't use qemu, so i have no idea what the options would be12:54
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xtreemo12:54
XrMb2but i can't find a live-CD there for 7.0412:54
xtreemI'll google it12:54
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Daisuke_IdoXrMb2: desktop = live12:54
replmanHi!12:54
FireJetreplman: Hi?12:55
Daisuke_Idoabout 8 hours, 50 minutes remaining12:55
Daisuke_Idoi'm going to cry12:55
FireJetEr, for some reason Adept isn't doing an amazing job of upgrading. Isn't there a commandline to do it?12:55
Daisuke_Idoit's up to file 3 of 911 :)12:55
FireJetDaisuke_Ido: Dude, fast connection...12:55
FireJetScratch that, it found it.12:56
N0Lif3|lappyi'm at 15 of 843 :S12:56
kkathmanwhat is the name of the adept updater function? (not the package manager)12:56
GrahamDaisuke_Ido: Don't run an programs that use too much internet.12:56
Grahamany*12:56
FireJetOr not...12:56
replmanI'm wondering where i can find the advertised button to install the proprietary nvidia-driver (kubuntu)12:57
FireJetkkathman: "adept_manager"12:57
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tmbg_!repository12:57
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:57
pvandewyngaerdei found it at the hardware settings of my  video card12:57
tmbg_replman, ^12:57
kkathmanthanx12:57
_Neilhey all, how can i run realplayer files in firefox?12:57
_Neilit tells me i need a plugin12:57
FireJet_Neil: Try installing the kmplayer or kaffeine plugin for Firefox12:58
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tmbg__Neil, read the following.12:59
tmbg_!codecs12:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:59
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_NeilUbuntu restricted extras01:00
_Neilwill this add real?01:00
FireJet_Neil: It should...01:01
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replmanin settings -> Display -> Hardware i see the driver nv which seems not to be the proprietary nvidia-driver. When i choose settings i can choose NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic), but the driver stays the same01:01
replmando i have to download it from nvidia as i did with 6.04?01:02
giovanireplman: you need to install nvidia-glx -- and then go into your xorg.conf and manually change the driver to "nvidia"01:02
giovaniyou may, if you wish, install the direct binary from nvidia -- it's newer, but it won't be installed using apt- so it won't be as easy to install, and remove01:03
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giovaniapt-get install nvidia-glx should be all you need to do01:03
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giovanithen ensure that "nvidia" is the selected driver01:03
giovanirather than "nv"01:03
coreymon77somehow i have i feeling that i should wait until tomorrow to upgrade01:03
_NeilI added restricted extras, but how do i use them?01:04
_Neileverything is just the same01:04
Daisuke_Idogiovani: that depends, does feisty include a newer driver than 8776?01:04
giovanihttp://packages.ubuntu.com/nvidia-glx01:04
giovanilook for yourself01:04
replmanin the description for the driver there is a hint to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" after installing the driver...let's try01:04
giovanireplman: you don't need to do that01:04
_Neilany ideas guys?01:05
Daisuke_Idonot the latest, but not too shabby01:05
giovani_Neil: you do an "apt-get update" like always to refresh the lists of packages01:05
Daisuke_Idobut...01:05
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay, now there is a new problem01:05
_Neilahhh01:05
giovaniDaisuke_Ido: it's never "the latest"01:05
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: i tried installing those new packages01:05
replmanWhat's the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new?01:05
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: mmmhmm?01:05
_NeilI think i may already have it enabled from edgy then..01:05
rubynis there someone that can send me the kubuntu7 dvd?01:05
giovanireplman: no idea -- google it01:05
giovanibbl01:05
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: but it gave me an error, saying it couldnt, but now adept thinks it did, the update tool still wont open, and clicking full upgrade looks like its goonna upgrade everything01:06
_Neilneed to get real working in firefox somehow... hmm01:06
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: sudo apt-get -f install01:06
Daisuke_Idothen try again01:06
Daisuke_Ido"google it"01:06
coreymon770 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 793 not upgraded.01:07
Daisuke_Idoso much for the famous ubuntu hospitality01:07
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Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: cool, now sudo apt-get upgrade01:07
Whiz2anyone know how to install the GD module that was supposed to come with PHP5?01:07
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: what is going on her01:07
Daisuke_Ido(NOT dist-upgrade)01:07
Whiz2i somehow managed to not get it01:07
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: adept is being evil01:07
SanneWhiz2: usually those modules are separate installs01:07
Daisuke_Idolooks like your sources are already set for feisty01:08
SanneWhiz2: I try to find the package name for you, sec01:08
Whiz2ty01:08
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: why are a billion packages being held back01:08
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SanneWhiz2: feisty?01:08
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fignewmirrors are so slow right now :(01:08
Whiz2huh?01:08
SanneWhiz2: which kubuntu version do you use?01:09
Whiz2the one before feisty i think01:09
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: because you didn't explicitly tell it to install those01:09
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: is this okay? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16455/01:09
Whiz2how do I find out?01:09
GrahamUmm... I've got a very very very bad problem.01:09
skriptdamn, I hope feisty won't break my system like edgy did when I upgraded with command line apt-get01:09
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Whiz2Sanne: how do i find out the version?01:10
SanneWhiz2: doesn't matter anyway, I just see the package name is php5-gd (you said you want it for php5, yes?).01:10
GrahamUpdate manager just error'd on me.01:10
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Grahamand It won't tell me why.01:10
SanneWhiz2: lsb_release -a01:10
Daisuke_Idothat doesn't look right :\01:10
Whiz2yes01:10
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: pastebin your sources.list01:10
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: what, the pastebin psot01:10
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Whiz2dapper01:11
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: yup, they are all fesity01:11
Jisaodo you have the torrent link for kubuntu?01:11
SanneWhiz2: oh, that's two before feisty :). I'm also still on Dapper. So, install the package php5-gd01:11
Daisuke_Idohrm01:11
Whiz2will that reinstall PHP5 or just the GD module?01:12
GrahamHas anybody here tried updating to Fiesty with the web update and had the updater crash when installing the files?01:12
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: change em back?01:12
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: yeah, you want to go back to edgy01:12
Daisuke_Idoi think that's why you're not getting the updater01:12
Daisuke_Idoand make sure you have the edgy-updates repo enabled01:12
replmanseems nvidia-glx works find for me, tnx!01:12
coreymon77is there any way to change them all to edgy without having to manually do it01:12
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coreymon77like a replace command01:13
SanneWhiz2: just this module. There are still some more php modules that don't come installed by default, you can find them in adept or on packages.ubuntu.com. They start with php5.01:13
replmanpretty fast ;-)01:13
Daisuke_Idofind and replace in kate01:13
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Whiz2Sanne: ty one more question... once i install the module, doI need to configure anything in PHP5, or in Apache, or anywhere else to make it work on my server?01:14
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SanneWhiz2: if php and apache work now, they should continue to work. You might need to restart apache, however.01:14
hueygAnyone have a second to help a windows traitor?01:15
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay, apt-get updating now01:15
Daisuke_Idowindows traitor?01:15
Whiz2changed from windows to linux huh?01:15
GrahamOh no no no no no!!!!01:15
SanneWhiz2: usually the installation of the module should make sure it gets enabled.01:15
hueygTrying to switch yes01:15
Daisuke_Idoswitchers welcome :)01:15
Whiz2Sanne: ty01:15
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coreymon77new converts always welcome01:15
Daisuke_Idodefeat the eeeeevil empire!01:16
SanneWhiz2: you're welcome :)01:16
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Daisuke_Idoor something like that01:16
hueygnot a computer idiot, but I am a Windows baby so that is my perspective01:16
Daisuke_Idohueyg: i was too01:16
hueygHere is my question01:16
Daisuke_Idowell, i was a DOS baby, but i used windows for a long time...01:16
Daisuke_Idogo right ahead01:16
hueygRunning Dapper version of Ubuntu01:16
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay, apt-get updated and and apt-get upgrading the 4 kde packages left01:16
Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: there ya go :)01:17
Whiz2uh-oh... says there is a dependency problem on one of the files, but is removing it anyway... should i be worried? (apt-get install php5-gd)01:17
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SanneWhiz2: wait01:17
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: now the update tool will appear01:17
coreymon77\?01:17
_JohnyI reinstalled kubuntu remaning my /home/ directory. Now Amarok doesn't run anymore01:17
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SanneWhiz2: (first, please type my name, in case you wanted to talk to me, so I get notified by my chat client). Can you paste the message to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?01:18
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Daisuke_Idoyou finished the apt-get upgrade01:18
Aarinhey ppl. i've got a question. when i try to install the kubuntu 7.04 alternate on my PIV 3.0ghz, i've got a question about my disc drive controler.01:18
coreymon77wait01:18
coreymon77almost01:18
Daisuke_Idok01:18
Daisuke_Idoit won't yet01:18
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Aarini've got a ATA disc and a SATA disc01:19
Daisuke_Idoyou'll have to launch the adept manager and fetch updates again01:19
Whiz2Sanne: You want me to paste the entire apt-get install message? I have the entire thing on my screen...01:19
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay, running adep\01:19
Aarinany ideias about what should I chose?01:19
SanneWhiz2: well, if you can. But to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, not here.01:20
Bebe_`question: K3B does alow you to burn .iso's right?01:20
GrahamGuys, my network upgrade of Fiesty threw an error, but it didn't say what went wrong, it downloaded the packages and was half way through installing them, what should I do?01:20
Daisuke_IdoBebe_`: most certainly does :)01:20
Bebe_`Thanks01:20
Bebe_`:)01:20
Aarinthere's a lot of stuff i don't know about, but there was a choice with the name: ide-scsi01:21
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Daisuke_Idore-run update-manager?01:21
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coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: working on it01:22
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GrahamDaisuke_Ido: Says that update-manager command isn't found.01:22
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: okay, now to try and get the release announcement01:23
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Daisuke_Idocoreymon77: just keep retrying if it doesn't come through01:23
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: i know01:23
Daisuke_Idobut hey, farther than last time :)01:24
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: ice been througn this part before01:24
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rfariashello how can i upgrade to feisty release01:24
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: no, ive been through this part01:24
Daisuke_Ido...oh :(01:24
kkathmanrfarias:  change your sources.lst, do an update and a dist-upgrade01:24
slicknickso is the a similar site to tinyurl but for images/screenshots?01:25
Daisuke_Idoslicknick: tinypic01:25
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rfariasi already have the feisty beta..01:25
Whiz2Sanne: the URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457/01:25
rolandohola01:25
rfariashola01:25
SanneWhiz2: looking...01:25
rfariaskkathman: already have the feisty beta version01:25
rfariaschange source list?01:26
rfariaswhat source list?01:26
rolandoif i get the feisty iso and install it over my edgy, is that a good thing?01:26
slicknickDaisuke_Ido: doesnt require registartion does it ?01:26
SanneWhiz2: you mean the removal of libgd2-noxpm? Let's see what it does.01:26
Daisuke_Idoi don't think so01:26
rolandoen /etc/apt/sources.list01:26
kkathmanrfarias:  if you have the beta installed, you should just be able to do a dist-upgrade then01:26
Whiz2Sanne: i thought it swaid GD dependeed on it?01:27
kkathmanbut check your sources anway just in case01:27
SanneWhiz2: you're getting a new one called libgd2-xpm, I think that's related. Lets see what those do. Sec.01:27
coreymon77Daisuke_Ido: forget it, ill do it tomorrow01:27
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GrahamMy update crashed, I think I can continue with apt-get dist-upgrade.01:27
Aarincan anyone help me?01:27
GrahamSeems to be working.01:27
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rfariasthanks01:28
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Whiz2Sanne: How do I restart my Apache server?01:28
SanneWhiz2: wait, I'm busy finding info about those packages :)01:28
rfariasso if i do sudo aptitude update and i haven't any upgrade01:28
Whiz2Sanne: ok01:29
rfariasi'm on upgrade?01:29
slicknickanyone seen rdesktop behave like this before?01:29
slicknickwhoot01:29
slicknickshoot01:29
david_Hello, MySQLquestion here.... I know I can goto their site and download it but is there a package WITH Ubuntu i can use?01:29
slicknickcant paste hrm01:29
SanneWhiz2: ah, seems a package gets replaced by another one with additional functionality. Look at those descriptions, old package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libgd2-noxpm   new package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libgd2-xpm01:29
Random_Transithey, i'm having a huge problem upgrading to feisty....can anyone here help??01:30
Whiz2Sanne: brb looking...01:30
Random_Transiti'm using update-manager to do the upgrade01:30
kkathmanRandom_Transit:  we might, if you tell us the problem :)01:30
wonderingHow would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?01:30
wonderingI've tried Reconstructor, UCK, and a few others with no success.01:30
Random_Transitand it stops and gives me this error: and when it goes to01:30
Random_Transiterr01:30
Random_Transitand it stops and gives me this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)01:31
wonderingIt would be a custom CD.01:31
boggystudioswhat should I type in to look at the partitioning scheme on the command line?01:31
wonderingboggystudios: fdisk -l01:31
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Random_Transitboggystudios df -h also works01:31
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david_Can anyone please tell me where to get ubuntu's offical MySQL server package?01:32
Whiz2Sanne: Same package, different name? works for me lol Ok back to my last question. how do I restart the Apache server?01:32
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slicknickanyone seen rdesktop behave like this before?  http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4g9bnd101:33
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slicknickdual monitor01:33
SanneWhiz2: no, the new one has xpm support, the old one not. Let me get you the apache restart command, sec.01:33
Daisuke_Idoweird.01:33
Whiz2Sanne: ty01:33
Random_Transitso, anyone got an answer for my question? sorry if i'm being overly persistant, but it's really bugging me01:33
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SanneWhiz2: do you have apache2 or apache?01:34
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Whiz2Sanne: 2 i believe01:34
Whiz2Sanne: lemme double check01:34
SanneWhiz2: ok01:35
iainhey guys quick question which is causing big problems over here01:35
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iaini use my laptop in the lecture hall01:35
iainand I'm running kubuntu01:35
iainI've muted the speakers01:35
iainbut can't figure out where the option to stop the system beep is01:35
iain...01:35
Whiz2Sanne: Yeah it's apache201:35
iainanyone know?01:35
SanneWhiz2: the command is: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart01:36
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iain...please?01:37
Daisuke_Idoiain: no idea01:37
Daisuke_Idoin konsole?01:37
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Daisuke_Idoor in the ttys?01:37
Whiz2Sanne: sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2 command not found <--- i'll just reboot the machine lol01:38
massimilianociao atutti01:38
Daisuke_Ido!it | massimiliano01:38
ubotumassimiliano: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:38
Sanneiain: quick search, dunno if it applies to kubuntu, hope it helps: http://khaoohs.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/howto-turn-off-mute-system-beep/01:38
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SanneWhiz2: that's very weird.01:39
SanneWhiz2: you can also manage apache in kcontrol->services01:39
Whiz2Sanne: init.d never works for me01:39
rafaellohello, plugins for audio in mpeg and avi?01:40
SanneWhiz2: it's : kcontrol->system administration->system services01:40
SanneWhiz2: I wonder why...01:40
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Whiz2Sanne: ty hang on lemme see if that'll work01:40
underdog5004my ISP is blocking my port 80...how can I get around this?01:40
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Aarinppl i need some help. what should I choose when the installer asks me which is my hard disk controller?01:40
wonderingHow would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?01:40
USMarineuse torrent01:40
Grahamunderdog5004: Ask them to unblock it.01:40
underdog5004Graham, yeah...that'll work01:41
underdog5004lol01:41
underdog5004graham, they block it so I can pay them to host a site...I think01:41
Aarinanyone?01:41
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USMarineAarin your chipset01:41
Whiz2Sanne: where do i find kcontrol?01:42
SanneWhiz2: just type it in konsole for now01:42
Aarini've got an PIV 3.0ghz. and ATA disk and an SATA disk01:42
Aarinthis is asked in the alternate install01:43
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wonderingHow would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?01:46
Grahamunderdog5004: I know a site with awesome hosting.01:46
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AarinUSMarine, your asking for the CPU chipset right?01:46
USMarineyes01:47
rfariasthe upgrader for kubuntu doesn't wxist  for me01:47
USMarinei never used the alternate01:47
USMarineso i dunno what you're talking about01:47
AarinUSMarine, its an Pentium 4 at 3.0ghz so its 32bits.01:47
Daisuke_Idoso?01:47
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AarinUSMarine, i've got an ATA disk and an SATA disk01:48
Daisuke_Idowhat does 32 bit have to do with anything?01:48
rfariashow can i know if i've got the latest version of kubuntu01:48
Aarinso what do you mean exactly with the CPU chipset? example plz01:48
rfarias???01:48
N0Lif3|lappyI use the plain clock type in kubuntu. How do I set it to a 12-hour time format. I'd prefer it to say 4:50 right now instead of 16:50..01:49
N0Lif3|lappy?01:49
Sannerfarias: what does this command tell you (if it's feisty, then it's latest): lsb_release -a01:49
rfariasright click on the clock and configure01:49
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AarinN0Lif3|lappy, no idea I prefer the 24h format :P01:49
Whiz2Sanne: ty according to the PHP forum i have on my server, the GD module is now installed. :-)01:50
Daisuke_Idoright click the clock > date & time format01:50
N0Lif3|lappyrfarias: and then? I see no 12-hour format option01:50
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SanneWhiz2: awesome! A tip: you can add this kcontrol app to the panel as an applet, it's called "settings, control center modules menu"01:51
rfariasSanne: i download firsttime the beta, i'm still stay with it01:51
rfariasso i update some things01:51
rfariasbut i dont know if i have the release verions01:51
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Sannerfarias: if you updated today, you should have the latest versions, as feisty is out.01:51
Whiz2Sanne: is there a way to acces from the k menu?01:51
rfariasi didn' update anithing from thursday01:52
bridgettewhat is the command to determine the version of kubuntu that I am currently running (terminal)01:52
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AarinUSMarine, any ideia on what should I choose?01:52
SanneWhiz2: I believe kubuntu uses the system settings app, and took out kcontrol. You can add it manually to the kmenu: open the menu, right click somewhere and choose "edit" to go to the menu editor.01:52
USMarinewhat options do you have01:52
rfariasSanne: i didnt update anything from thursday+01:53
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AarinUSMarine, lots of them. in the middle there are some options with the names: ide-disk, ide-scsi, ide-floppy01:53
USMarineload them all if you can01:54
USMarineit wont harm01:54
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AarinUSMarine, the others i don't know them form anywhere.01:54
Aarin*from01:54
Sannerfarias: hm, I don't know really, I'm still on Dapper. But if you had feisty beta you would get the release version now if you update. If there#s nothing to update, you already should have the latest of everything.01:54
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Whiz2Sanne: tyvm for your help. I'm outta here01:54
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SanneWhiz2: you're welcome :)01:54
rfariasthanks Sanne01:55
Sannedang too slow...01:55
USMarineAarin load them all01:55
rfariasother question01:55
ubuntuHey guys I'm installing Kubuntu 7.04 right now and the installation just got stuck at 82% ( Scanning the mirror...) what can I do :S ?01:55
Sannerfarias: you're welcome also :)01:55
rfariaswhere can i get the typical kubuntu user #01:55
kkathmanyou can wait (everybody's hitting the mirror probably)01:55
bridgettewhat is the command to determine the version of kubuntu that I am currently running (terminal)01:55
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: wait on it, repos are toasted right now01:55
ubuntuDaisuke_Ido: ok... Thanks01:56
orient2000wait 5 minutes01:56
rfariasbridgette: lsb_release -a01:56
bridgettethanks!01:56
Sannerfarias: what do you mean by that? You are an ubuntu user, I'm also.01:56
rfariaswelcome :)01:56
rfariasyep but the counter01:56
rfariasfor example kubuntu user #2143342101:56
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SkyblastMy distro upgrade is going at about 25k right now... I'm probably lucky I'm getting that much "_01:56
Sannerfarias: you want to register at the ubuntu counter?01:57
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bridgetteinteresting, it says Ubuntu 6.06.1, shouldn't that be Kubuntu?01:57
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rfariasyep Sanne01:58
AarinUSMarine, the IDE ones or every single one of the list?01:58
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rfariasbut kubuntu counter XDexist?01:58
Sannerfarias: you can do so here: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/01:58
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AarinUSMarine, they are a lot of them (30 at least)01:58
Daisuke_Idobridgette: same OS01:58
Daisuke_Idodifferent DE01:58
Daisuke_Idothat's all that's different between the two :001:58
bobbyshould i upgrade or from scratch01:59
Sannebridgette: we're all one happy family, after all ;)01:59
bridgetteah, so we are really ubuntu running a kde desktop - got it, I'm learning01:59
Daisuke_Idobridgette: no worries, there's also xubuntu to confuse things even more01:59
bridgetteyeah, i'm much happier now that vista has been removed from all partitions01:59
chad_whats up from maine i am trying to connect to irc.battlefoundry.net and am having a hard time whats going on?01:59
Daisuke_Idoubuntu with xfce01:59
Sannebridgette: almost. We're running kde with customizations from kubuntu, to be exact.01:59
rfariasdime01:59
Daisuke_Idofrom vista to kubuntu?  that IS an upgrade :)01:59
Aarinand nubuntu (ubuntu with fluxbox)02:00
chad_I seemed to have no prob getting on this server, am overlooking something02:00
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Daisuke_Idoand edubuntu (ubuntu with a default set of education packages installed)02:00
Sannebridgette: congrats and welcome to linux :)02:00
tony134340don't forget the gaybuntu distro02:00
chad_my usb auto mount broke with an upgrade and they have not fixed it02:00
tony134340christian ubuntu02:00
bridgetteyes, i use linux at work and finally got brave enough to use it at home - thanks for the help guys!02:00
tony134340edubuntu02:01
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chad_non secular kubuntu02:01
bobbyhas anyone tried to upgrade using the net02:01
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Daisuke_Idobobby: i'm working on it now02:01
Daisuke_Idoit's going to be a while before it's done02:02
bobbygreat let me know02:02
SkyblastI am upgrading now, It's a tiny bit better now but not much...02:02
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SkyblastSeem to be getting around 25k02:02
judgeni iahve a scratch in my vrptch for a discussion? anyone up?02:03
Aarini'm trying to install kubuntu again, wish me luck02:03
SkyblastAnd since I have ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu desktops... I don't think I'll be using Feisty tonight :)02:03
cheeseboyugh it takes 20 min to install 1 thing today02:03
judgeni only have fluxbuntu and kubuntu02:04
SkyblastIt took me like 15 minutes to get those >100k x11 update things at lunch02:04
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judgenguessing the us servers are slow today02:04
SkyblastWhenever I reload, I'm not putting xfce back on. It keeps breaking on me.02:04
judgen?02:04
SkyblastEveryone's trying to upgrade to Feisty judgen02:05
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rfariasthnaks everyone02:05
judgenSkyblast:  apperantly its the DE that wosk best with beryl02:05
rfariasenjoy kubuntu and the family ubuntu02:05
Daisuke_Idowhat's scary is more people are probably upgrading to feisty today than upgraded to vista in its first week02:05
rfariasXD02:05
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stoftDaisuke_Ido: :-D02:05
judgen244licenses of vista so far in china02:06
judgenlol02:06
Daisuke_Idowhich equates to about...  500,000 copies in use :)02:06
stoftnn02:06
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kkathmanlol02:06
SkyblastI wonder what China is using... pirated Windows? Linux? BSD?02:06
Skyblastpirated Linux? :)02:06
judgenSkyblast:  its a mix02:06
kkathmanChinix ?02:06
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kkathmanChibuntu ?02:06
Daisuke_Idothat sounds like a mexican dish02:07
judgenBSD  in china is ajoke02:07
SkyblastMaybe OS X is big over there.02:07
Daisuke_IdoSkyblast: i really doubt it because i don't think apple sells computers over there.02:07
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Daisuke_Idoand if they did, the vast majority wouldn't be able to afford them anyway02:07
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SkyblastReally? hmm02:07
PharsalusGreetings, Is anyone else having problems installing the Ubuntu-restricted-extras package on Kubuntu 7.04?02:08
judgenSkyblast:  considering how much they have sol compared to TP in china (000.1) its nothing.02:08
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SkyblastYeah that's true. You pay nice change for that apple logo.02:08
GrahamI made it!02:08
madmikealmost time to upgrade oh yeah02:08
SanneGraham: congrats02:08
Daisuke_IdoGraham:  :P02:08
GrahamIt's not all that different really.02:08
Daisuke_Idonow if i can finish the upgrade process02:08
SkyblastIt looks like I am going to be upgrading for the next 8 hours.02:08
judgena via-complete mobo costs 9 as a private person in korea02:09
madmikeI'm just doing a fresh install02:09
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SkyblastI probably should just do a fresh too, but meh.. I can be patient02:09
BluesKajplenty of linux users in china according to reports , ...gov't is thinking  of banning it...it's like MS , the gov't can't control the spread of open source...goes against their policy02:09
madmikeJust backed up the good stuff the ISO just finshed writeing now I'm off be back in a bit02:10
PharsalusAny news links to back up the story on Chinese government banning open source?02:10
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BluesKajthe internet is democratic , whether bejing likes it or not02:10
judgenBluesKaj: bullplop! they wont ban it, they will just restrict opensource to only do things legal in china (wich in their wright)02:10
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GrahamChina has more problems to deal with than open source.02:11
BluesKaji wish therm luck02:11
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judgenBluesKaj: have you even read the stuf about chineese legislation?02:12
replmandoes anyone know how to enable beryl with kubuntu? I installed beryl-kubuntu using adept. Du i have to edit xorg.conf?02:12
philphotohave the Feisty developers ironed out all the wrinkles in the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?02:12
GrahamSee, what should of happened, is we just don't co-operate with them. They'll either need to relax their batty to keep the economy, or nuke the US.02:12
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dsmith"One word around town is that Michael Dell himself uses the latest version of Ubuntu", I wonder if he has been here before.02:12
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BluesKajPharsalus, i wish i had real proof ,but I'm justy quoting a guy who works with my daughter in TaiPei.02:12
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judgenBluesKaj: the ammendum will completley stop all commercial endevours in china that don provide source to CCP02:12
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GrahamThing is, people can leave China can't they. One of my dads friends married some chinese woman.02:13
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PharsalusAnyway, I have an issue with Adept/Ubuntu-restricted-extras package, I get the error cannot comit, break packages or something. Any ideas?02:13
judgenphilphoto: you might not get the increasd bootup speed02:13
jordo23Happy release day...02:13
bobbyi just look at the release note on ubuntu ,Do all these new features apply to kubuntu02:14
tony134340dsmith: not rumour, it says on the Dell site he uses it02:14
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judgenGraham: before 1976 thoy couldnt legally do it02:14
dsmithahhhhh coool02:14
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dsmithphilphoto: do you takes pictures of young lass's?02:15
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philphotojudgen: bah, no big deal about increased boot speed.  I mean that bugs that caused me a few big problems  which forced a fresh install of 6.1002:15
judgendsmith:  behave02:15
GrahamQuestion, in adpet package manager on fiesty, what does the little kubuntu logo mean next to packages?02:15
dsmithjudgen: I was asking a question02:15
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tony134340how many here heard of k/ubuntu through digg.com?02:15
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dsmithnot I02:15
GrahamNon.02:15
philphotodsmith: i'm a professional.  I take photos of everything.02:15
BluesKajtony134340,  ever heard of google :)02:16
GrahamI heard of Ubuntu from a guy I used to know. Did custom levels for Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory, was a cool guy.02:16
dsmithok, I have just seen that name before..02:16
boggystudiosIs it not possible to run 'sudo fdisk -l' through ssh?02:16
philphotodsmith:  this is who I am: http://www.americanphotojournalist.com/member.php?user=NMCB4PH202:16
tony134340yeah, been using linux for years, but digg has an army of ubuntu fanboys02:16
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GrahamDoesn't digg also have an army of emos?02:17
judgenphilphoto: except the update to upstart *.* version will make your distro an feisty with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:17
GrahamIt'd suck to command an emo army, they'd get upset and kill themselves before battle.02:17
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tony134340don't know, i'm not one of them02:18
JamieHi. Can I force the Feisty DVD to install the same programs as the CD, no more ?02:18
judgenthe only reasons to take photos is to 1.show them off, 2. remember stuff. Test your skill02:18
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judgenthere are no other reasons02:18
philphotojudgen: last time I did it, it was fine for a few days then during an update of grub, the system returned a kernel panic error on reboot, & I couldn't for the life of me fix it02:19
tony134340Jamie, yeah, i think it does by default, don't quote me on it02:19
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judgenPhildid you try to fix grib?02:19
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intelikeywell i'm back,   i think.02:20
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philphotoI tried but couldn't get it done.  my computer magic is not that strong.  this is my first full month with linux02:20
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Jamietony... thx. I don't know which to download the CD or DVD... is there a list of differences, I couldn't find it.A?02:20
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steve_test...can people see this?02:20
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Grahamsteve_: No, have you tried changing your IRC settings?02:21
jordo23just to make sure....I can generate a feisty sources.list and dist upgrade that way right.....02:21
intelikeysteve_ no02:21
JamieCan someone please point me to the list of differences between the cd and dvd ?02:21
steve_ok so i guess no one in the support channels feels like helping me out02:21
jordo23are there any complications upgrading in that manner?02:21
Grahamjordo23: Yeah, the update is basicly a package update but on a larger scale.02:21
jordo23Graham: thanks....that's what I thought, but I am such a chicken like that (lol)02:21
jordo23gotta make sure02:22
intelikeysteve_ possably not.   what was the issue anyway ?02:22
shawn34so, anyone run the update yet?02:22
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tony134340Jamie, i think the DVD has the main repository software, plus the alternate cd and server edition02:22
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jordo23I can't get it running under Adept....is this because if overload?02:22
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steve_well i'm trying this ubuntu out and i'm running into a lot of problems.  first of all i can't unmaximize my windows02:22
steve_i click maximize and then if i click the button again nothing happens02:22
Jamietony... thnx again.02:23
Jamiebfn02:23
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jordo23For me the automatic adept upgrader won't get past the announcement download....02:23
LKhi, I want to mount /dev/sda6 in live cd?02:23
jordo23Has anyone else seen this?02:23
LKits ntfs02:23
shawn34anyone have any issues with the feisty upgrade?02:23
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jordo23shawn34: the automatic upgrader...02:23
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shawn34jordo23, what about it?02:24
intelikeysteve_ hmmmm never seen that,    try just resizing them ?       steve also if it's "ubuntu" not "kubuntu"  the help channel is  #ubuntu   for that.02:24
BluesKajyeah shawn34, it upgraded without my knowledge :)02:24
shawn34lol02:24
shawn34hows that?02:24
BluesKaj2 days ago02:24
LKhi, I want to mount /dev/sda6 in live cd, partition is ntfs I can mount it, but I have not root permisson to open?02:25
intelikeylk  sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/sda602:26
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BluesKajwas running beta , morning upgrades came down with the official pkg but they didn't indicate that it was the final02:26
LKthanks02:26
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glock24hola02:27
intelikeyLK writing on ntfs from linux "may" cause errors on the ntfs02:27
intelikeyLK just so you know.02:27
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LKmount: can't find /dev/sda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:28
intelikeyso supply the mountpoint also02:28
LKok02:29
LKmount: you must specify the filesystem type02:29
intelikeyi thought you said it was mounted02:30
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LKhmmm, I thought it was02:30
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intelikeylk  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda6 /<mountpoint>02:30
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LKmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda602:32
LKwhat is going on?02:32
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hagabakahow can I reset the KMenu entries according to which packages are installed?02:32
intelikeyLK i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you have the wrong device02:33
intelikeyLK sudo fdisk -l02:33
voidmageIs it just me or does anyone else feel kubuntu is missing out on a lot of stuff ubuntu has?02:33
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voidmagesuch as the easy codec manger, restricted-manager, migration-assistant02:33
voidmagehonestly, i think it a miracle kubuntu even got networkmanager02:33
BluesKajvoidmage, like what ?02:33
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flaccidi agree02:34
voidmageThe things that aren't gnome specific never even made it into kubuntu02:34
flaccidkubuntu doesn't exactly have admin features like that02:34
LKits the right device, I've checked with that command and looked in Konqueror02:35
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hagabaka"Restricted Manager provides a Gnome user interface for configuring ..."02:35
voidmageDespite that restricted manager was originally made for gnome, I still feel there should be a kde port for it02:36
hagabakathat would probably be nice02:37
voidmageIt seems like something that should Just Be There02:37
hagabakawhat does it do anyway?02:37
voidmagemanages restricted drivers02:37
voidmagesuch as nvidia02:37
voidmageClick a checkbox and it installs the driver and sets up your xorg.conf02:37
BluesKajso , in kde what's to configure ? ... perhaps I'm missing something , but i find kde much more user friendly for us former widows users .02:37
hagabakaoh02:37
LKI've now tryed it on other partiton and on another drive! same result, if I put faluse dev in it says mount: special device /dev/XXXX does not exist02:37
chemicalvamphmm windoze says 1.86 ghz.. kubuntu says 2193.702 mhz one more reason i prefer linux :)02:37
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voidmagethe easy codec manager should be there too, IMO02:38
hagabakai don't like the "System Settings" thing02:38
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voidmageamarok's mp3 download script doesn't work right half the time02:38
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voidmageand the way it's set up in gnome now02:38
voidmageif you play a mp302:38
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voidmagegstreamer or whatever calls apt to download it02:39
hagabakakcontrol is much easier to navigate for me, and more "complete"...02:39
Admiral_Chicagoevening all02:39
decanyone know how to upgrade to the new version, I went on the website and cannot get upgrade manager to show the updates02:39
hagabakabut for some reason i don't have a kmenu entry for kcontrol, only "System Settings"02:39
voidmageare you running edgy?02:39
decyes02:39
voidmagehmm02:40
Admiral_Chicagohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php02:40
Sannehagabaka: you can add kcontrol to your panel as an applet02:40
Admiral_Chicagodoes that help at all?02:40
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voidmagedid you add 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main' to your sources.list?02:40
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hagabakai just want it in the menu. i could add that myself too, but shouldn't it be there by default?02:40
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voidmagekubuntu by default uses systemsettings02:41
voidmageyou could easily add it to the menu02:41
hagabakai know02:41
hagabakabut why isn't it in the menu by default?02:42
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hagabakaat least it should be in the Systems submenu02:42
voidmageBecause kubuntu uses systemsettings by default02:42
hagabakathat doesn't mean a similar application should be "hidden"02:43
hagabakaif the user installs both, they probably want both02:43
hagabakaand even if i remove systemsettings, kcontrol doesn't get added to the kmenu automatically either02:43
decis there a way to install the new version of ubuntu from terminal02:43
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voidmagehagabaka: kubuntu-desktop also depends on kcontrol02:44
shawn34anyone kelp me out with Ktorrent? after the download finishes it stops uploading02:44
hagabakaand?02:44
shawn34and 'keep seeding after download finishes' is selected02:44
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BloodyTuxback02:45
chemicalvamphow is it possible to hide behind something clear?02:45
chemicalvampPCI: Bus #06 (-#09) is hidden behind transparent bridge #05 (-#06) (try 'pci=assign-busses')02:45
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hagabakafor a standard package like this, i think it should just come with a kmenu. requiring the user to add it themselves doesn't make sense...if they remove kcontrol, or if the executable name changes in the future, the user would be able to expected to maintain the menu entry too02:46
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intelikeysomeone with an ntfs care to test this for me                  dd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T                       <<< assuming the ntfs is on hda1.   adjust accordingly02:46
hagabakamy sentence didn't make much sdnse :(02:46
hagabaka*the user shouldn't be expected to maintain the menu entry in case the executable changes name or the kcontrol package was removed02:47
BloodyTux!trivia02:48
ubotuThe #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.02:48
BluesKaj!Kubuntu-Trivia02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-trivia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
BloodyTux:)02:49
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DragnslcrAnybody happen to have the md5sum for the amd64 DVD image? I couldn't find it on the site02:49
BluesKajthose gnome luvers aren't a friendly bunch02:49
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intelikeyhagabaka install menu  the debian menu entry for kcontrol is in  kmenu > debian menu > apps > system02:50
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hagabakahmm, i don't see "debian menu"02:51
intelikeydid you install menu  ?02:51
tony134340dl'ing kubuntu 7.04 right now, can someone tell me if it's worth the upgrade? from what I hear, ubuntu got all the new stuff02:51
voidmageyeah, kubuntu kind of got shafted02:51
ash211kubuntu has knetworkmanager, which I like02:51
voidmagestill worth upgrading though02:51
ash211definitely02:52
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ash211more fine-grained powermanager controls02:52
BluesKajtony134340, they need it :)02:52
voidmagedon't want to see kubuntu just get restricted-manager, etc in gutsy02:52
voidmageand still be a release behind02:52
hagabakaintelikey: i just reinstalled menu, and it's still not there...in the KDE Menu Editor, there's a Debian submenu, but nothing in it02:52
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voidmageyou need menu-xdg02:53
giovaniwould anyone mind checking out my feisty installation booting error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41424902:53
intelikeyhagabaka then i don't know what they broke.    worked well in 6.602:53
hagabakamenu-xdg isn't installed by default right?02:53
voidmagenope02:54
voidmagethat's what gives the full debian menu02:54
hagabakaoh02:54
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intelikeyoh is it -xdg ?02:55
intelikeyi think menu must have depended on it in dapper02:55
intelikeynope....   hmmm02:55
giovaniwell, unfortunately, I have to run -- but if anyone has any ideas -- please respond to that thread02:55
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BloodyTuxanyone need help02:58
intelikeyapt-cache show menu    "Description: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications Debian menu keeps transparently the menus in the different window-managers in sync with the list of installed programs."02:59
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intelikeyBloodyTux yeah care to test something ?02:59
PharsalusHi, noob question. I'm trying to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package through add/remove programs, and I keep getting the error shown below. I'm using Kubuntu 7.04. Any assistance will be appreciated. "There was an error committing changes, possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."02:59
BloodyTuxsure02:59
intelikeydd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T02:59
BloodyTuxwill it kill me?02:59
intelikeyno02:59
BloodyTuxwhats it for?02:59
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intelikeyverifying the fs type03:00
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BloodyTuxUsage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...03:00
BloodyTuxTry `grep --help' for more information.03:00
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voidmagePharsalus: try installing it through the command line and see what happens03:00
voidmagesudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras03:00
chemicalvampwhats a good p2p?03:00
voidmageamule?03:01
BloodyTuxi like frostwire03:01
intelikeyBloodyTux oh i should have mentioned the device needs to be an ntfs partition.    asjust the  hda1 accordingly03:01
BloodyTux...03:01
chemicalvampyuo thats what i was thinking about03:01
flaccid!find azureus03:01
ubotuFound: azureus, azureus-gcj03:01
flaccid!info azureus03:01
ubotuazureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB03:01
hagabakai see03:01
BloodyTux!frostwire03:01
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:01
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intelikeydd if=/dev/sda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T    <<<< feisty maybe03:01
BloodyTuxi'm not ntfs03:01
BloodyTuxi'm ext3 or 203:01
intelikeyk i've tested there it returns silently03:02
hagabakais it possible to let kmenu display the xdg menu at top level instead of its "own" content?03:02
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voidmageno clue, never tried that03:02
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hagabakaor is there an alternative applet that does it?03:02
chemicalvampBloodyTux fdisk -l (thats an L) to see what your filesystems are03:02
intelikeyshould be03:02
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intelikeychemicalvamp do you have any ntfs on your box ?03:03
chemicalvampi have before, not anymore03:03
intelikeyk03:03
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Daisuke_Idoyay, up to 30% on the upgrade.  file 186 of 911 :\03:04
intelikey91103:04
Daisuke_Ido2am at the earliest :\03:04
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Daisuke_Idoand i doubt i'll even be up then03:04
chemicalvampDaisuke_Ido are you using the edgy -> feisty upgrade tool?03:04
Daisuke_Idochemicalvamp: yes i am03:04
intelikeywe may need to call that nine eleven number what was the number again ?03:05
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intelikeyok like what's the number for nine one one </blond>03:06
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Daisuke_Idowhoa, the speed just peaked on me...  36kb/s03:07
intelikeyshort livedd03:07
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Daisuke_Idoback to 20 :)03:07
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intelikeyten times what i can get03:07
Daisuke_Idoi should have just downloaded the alternate install cd and used that as a repo to upgrade03:08
Daisuke_Idowould have been so much faster03:08
intelikeyyou can always cancel at any time03:08
intelikeyand resume when you want03:08
intelikeyapt is kewl that way03:09
Daisuke_Idothen they need to fix the warning that says "once started you cannot stop and restart" :\03:09
EndlerI'm wishing I would have done the same thing.  I'm 8 hours into my distro upgrade, and at 65%.03:09
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido lol  well maybe the script will puke  but normal  apt-get dist-upgrade works fine.03:10
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chemicalvampDaisuke_Ido i tryed the upgrade tool, got a fatal error at 99% of upgrade fubared everything.. had to reinstall edgy, and burn the feisty install disk03:10
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intelikeyyay go automatic krap03:11
EndlerThat will suck if it aborts at 99% after 12 hours.03:11
the_hammerhi how do i know if i got the latest and greatest kubuntu?03:11
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the_hammeris there a command i know for kerns its uname -a03:11
compilerwriterYes I have the iso that I am seeding on torrent and have burned a copy of it already.  Adept is getting file 1095 out 1347 or some such stuff.03:11
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intelikeylsb_release -a03:11
chemicalvampits a long install online.. like 4 hours downloading (50-60 kbps) and lke 2 hour upgrade03:11
gdiebelthe_hammer: kate -v03:12
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compilerwriterCan I stop adept and use the iso image as source somehow without fubaring everything?03:12
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chemicalvamphehe fubar03:12
the_hammerQt: 3.3.703:13
the_hammerKDE: 3.5.603:13
the_hammerKate: 2.5.603:13
the_hammeris that the latest?03:13
gdiebelyep03:13
the_hammerok cool03:13
the_hammerjust on the live cd now ill return in a bit03:13
intelikeycompilerwriter idk.   some say it's a gastly thing.03:13
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soulrider_hello03:15
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soulrider_it seems lots of people gor feisty now, i can acces kubuntu.org! :P03:15
compilerwritergrr 1102 of 1307!  205 friggin files to go.  Whose idea was this freakin update tool anyway?03:16
soulrider_compilerwriter: i think youre upgrading to feisty ?03:17
compilerwriterMore importantly, though; Why was I dumb enough to use it?03:17
soulrider_lol03:17
compilerwriterdapper to edgy was not this ugly.03:17
soulrider_dont you want feisty ?03:17
soulrider_well03:17
intelikeysoulrider_ no.03:17
soulrider_lots of people are downloading, thats why its kinda slow03:17
compilerwriterOf course I want feisty.03:17
CVirusAny smooth upgrades yet ?03:18
soulrider_lol intelikey i know you dont :P03:18
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soulrider_hi juan carlos03:18
intelikeyCVirus how would we know ?    in a help channel    who joins to say    "i have no issues"   ?03:18
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Jucatohi soulrider_03:19
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soulrider_lol intelikey03:19
compilerwriterIt is just ticking me off soulrider_ that I started adept thingy and then started up ktorrent merely to seed the thing for people.03:19
compilerwriterI have now burned a copy of the blasted iso disk.03:19
compilerwriterI have even seeded the thing more like 937 meg.03:20
Daisuke_Idoyeah, that wasn't the best idea, i don't think03:20
Daisuke_Ido:\03:20
compilerwriterjucato I am blaming myself for being dumb enough to use update program.03:20
soulrider_compilerwriter: well, you should ahve just downloaded hte iso03:20
soulrider_im gonna let it seed all night long03:20
soulrider_seeding is good, especially this sort of stuff03:20
Daisuke_Idocould not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:20
Daisuke_Idothat's not nice03:20
Jucato!adeptfix | Daisuke_Ido03:21
ubotuDaisuke_Ido: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:21
BloodyTuxexpo markers smell funny!!! 8D03:21
Daisuke_Idothat, um...  didn't work :\03:21
compilerwritersoulrider_ I figured it would take roughly the same amount of time.03:21
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido you are running the updater ?03:22
Daisuke_Idoi was03:22
soulrider_compilerwriter: youre sure the uploading is not preventing you from downloading faster ?03:22
BloodyTuxmarkers............03:22
chemicalvampBloodyTux yes, and paint chips taste weird03:22
Daisuke_Idosoulrider_: i was maxing out at 20k/s with nothing else running03:22
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BloodyTuxgas tastes funny too03:22
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compilerwriterMy download speed is much faster than my max upload.03:22
BloodyTuxso does crayons03:22
BloodyTuxexcept macaroni ones03:22
Daisuke_Idoooookay03:23
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soulrider_the thing is theres TONS of people downloading from the servers, so speeds arent probably too good03:23
Daisuke_Idocan we get a straitjacket for this guy?03:23
Daisuke_Idosoulrider_: exactly, so i'm dropping the updater and going the fun way03:23
Daisuke_Idoinstall from a live cd03:23
ned__does kubuntu 7.04 have a restrcted drivers manager like ubuntu 7.04?03:23
BloodyTuxi already am strait03:23
CVirusned__: Is this an IQ test ?03:23
BloodyTux:D03:23
compilerwriterI have throttled back my upload to only 100k and I have limited the peers to 40 so I doubt it is affecting me much.03:24
ned__CVirus: what do you meant?03:24
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soulrider_compilerwriter: you can upload REALLY fast!03:24
CVirusned__: re-check your statement03:24
Daisuke_Ido*only* 100k?03:24
Daisuke_Idoblah03:24
compilerwriterI am supposed to have 160k upload speed so I should be getting my requests to the servers through.03:24
ned__CVirus: *restricted03:24
soulrider_holy crap man, my connections maxes out at 1203:25
Daisuke_Idoned__: what he meant to say is "yes" because kubuntu is a version of ubuntu03:25
intelikeyCVirus yes and you failed.03:25
BloodyTux#kubuntu-asylum03:25
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chemicalvampmy old internet connection was 7mbps down and 3 mbps up.. i miss it soo much03:25
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Alethesis it possible for me to donwnload all the packages for an upgrade to feisty with adept without actually installing them right away?03:25
ned__how do i access it in kubuntu?03:25
intelikeyned__ any thing in ubuntu "can" be installed in kubuntu also   but by default,  i think not.03:25
CVirusintelikey: seems so ... just noticed .. LOL03:25
ned__ok03:26
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BloodyTux... chemical you wack03:26
Eyeless!codec03:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:26
BloodyTux#kubuntu-expomarkersniffinggroup03:27
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soulrider_i think we dont have to enable repos anymore03:27
ned__i'm installing "restricted-manager" now, i assume it's what i am looking for03:27
ned__the servers are choked up03:27
BIoodyTuxdont listen to him! he's evil03:27
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BloodyTux...03:27
BloodyTuxomg03:27
arunkaleUmm, I can't install updates on Edgy after I got a 'can't connect to server' error during upgrading to feisty last night03:27
BloodyTux#markersniffers03:28
arunkaleit;s not even fetching the headers properly03:28
Daisuke_Idoarunkale: check your sources.list03:28
BloodyTux#kubuntu-i-eat-paint03:28
soulrider_BloodyTux: chill out a bit dude03:28
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Daisuke_Idochances are you can't get edgy updates because all of your repos are now set to feisty :)03:28
BloodyTuxthat one was chemicals03:28
compilerwritersoulrider_ in ktorrent terms what does choked mean and what does snubbed mean?03:29
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arunkaleDaisuke_Ido: thanks03:29
tony134340just asking a quick opinion: has anyone here tried ubuntu and is kubuntu much better than ubuntu?03:29
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intelikeytony134340 no03:29
BloodyTuxMUCH BETTER03:29
Daisuke_Idotony134340: it's a matter of preference03:29
Daisuke_Idodo you like gnome or kde?03:30
BloodyTux#ubuntuusersofdoom03:30
compilerwriterI started with ubuntu tony134340 and changed to kubuntu.  Kubuntu is much better.03:30
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unix_infidel!minimal03:30
tony134340i tried it and i hate to say, i just prefer the look of KDE and the configurations03:30
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:30
intelikeytony134340 one leg is both the same.03:30
Daisuke_Idotony134340: then this is where you belong03:30
BloodyTux!sharpies03:30
BloodyTux:(03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sharpies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
Daisuke_Idowe're kde dorks03:30
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Daisuke_Idoexcept for intelikey over there, he refuses to touch a gui at all.  i think he just comes here because he's lonely03:30
Daisuke_Ido:P03:30
intelikey:)03:31
Eyelesshow do i set the default movieplayer for firefox? (its currently toten, but i want to use my player-plugin)03:31
BIoodyTuxhow do you un-kickban somebody?03:31
arunkaleok now it's downloading updates, but still it's way slower than usual03:31
arunkaleare their servers taking a lot of heat03:31
arunkalecoz of the feisty upgrade03:31
BloodyTuxyea you kicked me03:31
BloodyTux!!!03:31
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tony134340i was just wondering if there was some uber reason or like mine, it just looks and feels better but i haven't used gnome but a few hours over a few years03:31
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BloodyTux#pie03:32
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soulrider_does anyone know whent he next LTS release is comming ?03:32
Daisuke_Idoarunkale: more people are downloading feisty *right this second* than have bought vista in all of china03:32
Daisuke_Idosoulrider_: feisty+103:32
arunkaletony134340: gnome is orange and brown. do you really want that? :p03:32
Daisuke_Idowell, gutsy03:32
BloodyTux#goodpie03:32
tony134340Daisuke_Ido, i was told that number was due to an error in translation or something. vista sucks, but still, hard to believe it's in the lower hundreds03:32
arunkaleI don't care about Vista03:32
soulrider_it forwards me to #ubuntu03:32
tony134340arunkale, no, i couldn't stand it03:33
soulrider_Daisuke_Ido: yeah, totally pwnt03:33
arunkaletony134340: I got OS X like font rendering on my Kubuntu, and every thing looks awesome03:33
arunkalethe icons, everything03:33
Daisuke_Idookay, here's another one that may be a little more relaistic and closer03:33
Daisuke_Idomore people have downloaded feisty today than bought vista in the first week of its release (not including oem, of course)03:34
BloodyTuxi like my channels03:34
soulrider_arunkale: my KDE looks sexy03:34
intelikeytony134340 let me nut shell this for you   ubuntu is a GNU-Linux distrobution that uses a default DE of gnome and the name is altered to reflect other optional defaults   such as KDE kubuntu  XFCE xubuntu   and  ED (edcational) edubuntu    it's all one distro.03:34
tony134340arunkale, yeah, i wish it came like that by default. my last install i configured it as such and it was great03:34
BloodyTux!sharpies03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sharpies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
arunkalesoulrider_: I hear you man03:34
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BloodyTux!nothing03:34
ubotuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.03:34
Daisuke_Idoo wpi;dm03:34
soulrider_BloodyTux: seriously, chill out03:34
Daisuke_Idookay03:34
intelikey!ops03:34
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal03:34
BloodyTuxsorry i'll stop03:34
Daisuke_Idotime to LOOK for the home row before typing :\03:35
tony134340intelikey, thanks, but i already knew the basic diffs03:35
BIoodyTuxstop eating paint that is03:35
soulrider_oh my, intelikey is mad :P03:35
nixternalBIoodyTux: please stop03:35
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ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases03:35
BIoodyTuxeh, shugs*03:35
DShepherdwhere can i find a torrent for kubuntu?03:36
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Daisuke_Idojmaybe at kubuntu's site?03:36
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nixternalDShepherd: what is your location? country wise?03:36
arunkalei'm on a dual boot right now, coz i need to run illustrator and photoshop. i know there are other software, but just not as widely used as these two. once there is a linux port of these applications (i hope there is), i don't have any reason to use any other application03:36
soulrider_http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/03:36
DShepherdnixternal, jamaica03:36
Daisuke_Idoand...  i'll be back!03:36
nixternalftp.ussg.iu.edu has torrents, and they are fast as long as they are flooded still03:36
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soulrider_nixternal: do you think you can add a link for the torrents on the MOTD? or maybe on the kubuntu site, so servers dont suffer that much03:37
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BloodyTuxsorry03:37
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nixternaloh well03:37
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lnxkdesup nixternal03:38
lnxkde:-)03:38
nixternalhola lnxkde03:38
soulrider_can anyone change the topic or something? =/03:38
lnxkdenixternal, todo bn?03:38
soulrider_hola muchachos :)03:38
nixternalnada03:38
nixternalhaha03:38
lnxkde:-D03:38
lnxkde /join #lnxkde-spanishparty03:38
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nixternalargh03:39
nixternalhahaha03:39
nixternalnalioth: I got it03:39
arunkaleI just tried to upgrade again, it says 'cannot download the release announcement'03:39
arunkalewhy would it do that to me?03:39
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lavidso, i seem to be having a lot of permissions issues since i did a clean install of kubuntu 7.04 today. i can't run this GLUT program i wrote and when i try to install vmware-workstation with the perl install script i get: bash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied03:39
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nixternalthat needs to be shortened. I will leave that for another day03:40
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soulrider_lavid: you need to chmod that file first03:40
soulrider_and run it with sudo03:41
gnomefreakmaybe drop the feisty out <link> and just put the link to get it03:41
gnomefreakbut really im off to bed03:41
lavidsoulrider_: ya lo hice / i already did that03:41
nixternalya03:41
lavidchmod a+x ./vmware-install.pl right?03:41
yotuxHave a daul core notebook should I stick with i386 or go for 64 bit?03:41
soulrider_lavid: check that the install script isnt corrupt, it may be a problem with the interpreter03:41
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nixternala lil better03:42
soulrider_i sould do chmod +x03:42
soulrider_with sudo03:42
lavidsoulrider_: yeah, already did that03:42
soulrider_yotux: i would do x8603:42
lavidyotux: i agree there, go x8603:42
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yotuxsoulrider_:  That is what I was thinking 64bit it still a little beta when it comes to the software market03:43
intelikeylavid and    ./vmware-install.pl03:43
intelikey?03:43
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lavidintelikey: huh?03:43
yotuxintelikey: are you trying to install vmware?03:43
intelikeyyou chmoded it to executable   did you run it ?03:43
lavidintelikey: of course03:44
intelikeyyotux not i03:44
lavidyotux: i am03:44
intelikeylavid any errors ?03:44
lavidsame ones03:44
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yotuxI have done it once before in beta03:44
soulrider_lavid: pastebin the script03:44
lavidcomming right up...03:45
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intelikeylavid did you     sudo ./vmware-install.pl   ?03:45
intelikeyor as root run it ?03:45
bluewaveis it possible to make so when I hold down the power button it doesn't shut down?03:45
lavidi'm root03:45
intelikeyno i am.03:46
intelikeyoh nm03:46
lavidhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16472/03:46
arunkaleman, i just can't upgrade. maybe i should try after a while.03:46
aaroncampbellHas anyone here used lightscribe on Kubuntu?03:47
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intelikeylavid ok was was the exact error message03:47
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Dragnslcraaroncampbell- no, but I just got a new burner with it, so I'd be interested in knowing if it works03:48
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aaroncampbellDragnslcr: well, they offer an rpm of whatever software you use...but last time I tried converting an RPM, I spent a week in here trying to get it straightened out03:49
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SCORulesI have insider information on SCOX stock. SCOX stock is predicted to increase by four fold after SCO's motion on Monday.03:49
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kelvie_how do you install firefox? :/03:50
intelikey!ff03:50
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:50
kelvie_adept shows me zero new packages03:50
kelvie_that I can install03:50
nixternalkelvie_: edgy or feisty?03:50
kelvie_feisty03:50
nixternaldid you select it via adept and install it?03:51
intelikeyall up to date i guess03:51
kelvie_I've used kubuntu edgy in the past.. it wasn't this screwed up :/03:51
Dragnslcraaroncampbell- I dunno, I'm just putting together a new computer to install Feisty on, so I haven't actually gotten to try anything out yet03:51
kelvie_nixternal: it's not even there03:51
nixternalhrmm03:51
lavidintelikey: root@lavid-laptop:/media/disk/vmware-distrib# ./vmware-install.pl03:51
lavidbash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied03:51
nixternal!info feisty firefox03:51
ubotuPackage feisty does not exist in feisty03:51
nixternalwow03:51
nixternal!info firefox feisty03:51
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 9011 kB, installed size 28600 kB03:51
nixternalhad it backwards03:51
lavidi'm going to grab some dinner... brb03:51
nixternalit says it is there03:51
intelikeylavid ok it's perl.    which perl03:51
kelvie_apt-get install doesn't work either03:51
TheDebugger!info epiphany feisty03:51
kelvie_are my repos screwed up?03:51
ubotuepiphany: clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-4 (feisty), package size 63 kB, installed size 236 kB03:51
kelvie_I didn't mess with anything03:51
nixternalkelvie_: make sure you have universe repos added03:51
kelvie_fresh install03:51
kelvie_won't even let me install synaptic03:52
nixternalfresh install should have universe and multiverse added unless they changed something03:52
kelvie_it says it's added03:52
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yotuxnixternal: last time I installed it was enabled03:52
kelvie_adept says 881 isntalled, 0 upgradeable, 881 available03:52
nixternalyotux: ya same here03:52
kelvie_installed*03:52
kelvie_something's screwed up with my install :/03:52
nixternalkelvie_: ahhh, you have a filter on that's why03:53
kelvie_how do you screw up such a simple install03:53
yotuxback later updated desktop03:53
kelvie_oh... how do I turn it off?03:53
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nixternalI don't use adept and such, apt-get only03:53
nixternalactually, you said apt-get doesn't work either03:53
kelvie_yeah03:53
kelvie_how do I update my sources list or whatever?03:53
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nixternalit seems it is reading the CD only and not the rest of the repos03:53
kelvie_yeah :/03:53
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soulrider_i wonder why there are no links to torrents on the kubuntu download site for CDs, only DVDs03:54
Noldoaranquick question: If I get kde4 from the repositories does it add it as another option in kdm? or in other words, does it take place of my current kde install?03:54
kelvie_k I'm doing a apt-get update03:55
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kelvie_it's downloading things so I'm optimistic03:55
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intelikeyNoldoaran replaces03:55
nixternalya, but adept should have fetched updates I would think, unless you didn't tell it to03:55
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Noldoaranok.. bummer, I want to try it out, but I don't want to totally commit to it03:56
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intelikeyi stand under you.03:56
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kelvie_adept's not exactly very configureable.. it seems03:56
Daisuke_Idogrr03:57
Dragnslcrsoulrider_- I think the mirrors should have the .torrent files03:57
Daisuke_Idodon't shoot me, i'm going to fix the topic.03:57
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intelikeynixternal  -:- Topic (#kubuntu): changed by ajnewbold: lols03:57
intelikeysorry.03:57
nixternalwth03:57
Dragnslcrsoulrider_- couple random mirrors I just checked have the .torrent files03:57
Daisuke_Idojust a drive-by topic changing03:57
Daisuke_Idomode +t03:58
nixternalI didn't even catch that03:58
Daisuke_Ido+nt even03:58
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Daisuke_Idono outside messages, ops change topic03:58
DragnslcrYeah, I kinda wondered why this channel isn't +t03:58
DragnslcrI assumed there was a reason03:58
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dcossonanybody else have problems with the gui updater crashing at the end of the 7.04 update?03:59
Noldoaranintelikey: how would i swich back to KDE 3.5.6 if I decide too?03:59
nixternalwe might have to make it +t if people can't stop playing with it03:59
nixternalI would rather just ban them for it and fix it back ;)03:59
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Daisuke_Idoi thought +t was more or less the default03:59
intelikeyNoldoaran uninstall and then install from the repos03:59
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DragnslcrYeah, +t usually is the default03:59
DragnslcrIt's easier than filling up the ban list04:00
nixternalya, we remove it here...we are all about free :)04:00
Daisuke_Idoah04:00
Daisuke_Idoopen source topic04:00
Noldoaranintelikey: repos?04:00
Daisuke_Idoclever04:00
DragnslcrI know how much fun it is to ban people though04:00
nixternalDaisuke_Ido: hahah, I guess ;)04:00
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DragnslcrI miss being an op in a large channel04:00
intelikey!repos | Noldoaran04:00
nixternalI don't04:00
ubotuNoldoaran: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:00
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chemicalvamplol cuz you are one04:00
ZomgEternalKoreaAnyone can help me with wireless problems? :o04:01
chemicalvamphow can you miss something your not currently without?04:01
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea i might, whas up04:01
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: back in my days on another network, i was an op in a fairly sizable channel (about 200 people usually), and got bored.  so i started banning for the strangest things04:01
Daisuke_Idolike banning anyone that said flower04:01
Daisuke_Idofor instance04:01
Noldoaranintelikey: ok, thanks04:02
intelikeyNoldoaran np04:02
ZomgEternalKoreaWell, i installed a new rooter, set it up correctly ( i hope ) i got my wan working and set up my wireless too with a 128 bit ascii key04:02
Daisuke_Ido...i didn't stick around for very long after that :\04:02
CVirusHow were the Kontact,Konqueror,Kopete and amaroK buttons grouped in the way in this snapshot http://kubuntu.org/images/feistydistup.png04:02
ZomgEternalKoreaWireless assistant can see the signal04:02
Daisuke_Idoquick launcher04:02
ZomgEternalKoreabut when i get connection failed when i try to connect on it.04:02
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Daisuke_Idoi don't even have to look at the picture :)04:02
ZomgEternalKoreausing the good WEP key04:02
JucatoCVirus: Quick Launcher applet on kicker04:02
vr_hey guys, at which speed should i burn my ISO?04:03
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea on wireless assistant?04:03
Daisuke_IdoZomgEternalKorea: i firmly believe that linux hates WEP04:03
Daisuke_Idoi had the same problem04:03
Daisuke_Idoand still do04:03
kelvie_:O is the "System Settings" a replacement for the KDE control center?04:03
chemicalvampknetworkmanager helps04:03
CVirusJucato: Thanks alot04:03
nixternalvr_: whatever speed your burner and CD can do04:03
Daisuke_Idokelvie_: kcontrol's still there04:03
kelvie_ah :p04:03
nixternalI am a 52x burning type dude myself, I hate waiting04:03
Daisuke_Idojust not the default04:03
vr_nixternal: should i just leave it at "auto" in k3b?04:03
ZomgEternalKoreaYeah04:03
ZomgEternalKoreaKubuntu's wireless assistant04:04
nixternalvr_: yup04:04
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea are you on edgy or feisty?04:04
DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- I was an op in #php over on EFNet. We didn't need to make up reasons to ban people there04:04
vr_nixternal: someone told me i should burn it at a low speed. but when i do that, it errors out, it can't verify the cd04:04
ZomgEternalKoreaNo idea, but i think i'm on edge.04:04
ZomgEternalKoreaedgy*04:04
Jucatonixternal: isn't the lowest speed recommended when burning ISO's04:04
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Daisuke_Idoi may have to drop feisty on the laptop then :D04:04
intelikeykelvie  alt+f2  type in: kcontrol  on any kde as far as i know, will get you the app04:05
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chemicalvampto get my wireless assistan to work right, i have to manualy set it up, but knetworkmanager does it automaticly04:05
nixternalJucato: who lives by recommendations? if we did, we would all be using Vista right now04:05
Daisuke_Idoah, sh....04:05
ZomgEternalKoreaHow could i know actually?04:05
Daisuke_Idoi forgot about this...04:05
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager04:05
vr_Jucato: what speed do you burn at?04:05
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Daisuke_IdoConfiguring apt, Scanning the mirror...04:05
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ZomgEternalKoreaok, sec04:05
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Daisuke_Idoi THOUGH it would be quicker this way :(04:05
Jucatovr_: the lowest that the CD can burn (4x or 8x depending on the CD)04:05
arunkalequestion for everyone: what are your window decoration themes of choice?04:05
ZomgEternalKoreacouldnt find the package04:06
ZomgEternalKorea:o04:06
Daisuke_Idoarunkale: crystal04:06
intelikeyJucato 8x> seems to be recommended in most cycrles  for burning system disks.04:06
Jucatonixternal: hm...  most standards are recommendations... (like w3c...)04:06
vr_on the cd it just says, 52x...04:06
SkyblastWhatever Edgy has as default I like04:06
Daisuke_Idothat is the most clever spelling i've seen :)04:06
DragnslcrI figure after I get my new system put together and get Feisty installed, I'll get to hang out here and ask all kinds of stupid questions04:06
nixternalJucato: standards and rules were made to be broken04:06
Daisuke_IdoSkyblast: pretty sure the default's crystal04:06
SkyblastI wish I could find a way to "backport" it to my Dapper machine at work04:06
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea sudo apt-get update04:06
ZomgEternalKoreaok04:06
Daisuke_IdoSkyblast: kde-look04:07
vr_i already got 2 coasters trying to burn at 8x04:07
nixternalsince CD burners were made, I have always burned ISOs at the maximum speed my burner and CD could handle04:07
Daisuke_Idoerr04:07
vr_:\04:07
ZomgEternalKoreawell...04:07
Daisuke_Idohttp://www.kde-look.org04:07
ZomgEternalKoreai cant download updates since my internet wont work.04:07
nixternalI just buned 50 Kubuntu x86/amd64 CDs today at 52x each04:07
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nixternalno way I was going to do them at 8x04:07
vr_nixternal: do thoze cds work on slower machines?04:07
Daisuke_Idostill scanning the mirror :\04:07
vr_those*04:07
aaroncampbellif I install automatix to try the lightscribe support, and it messes something up, how hard would it be to remove it?04:07
nixternalthey work on my laptop which only has 24x04:08
intelikeyvr_  8x or less  heavy on the or less04:08
Daisuke_Idoyou can get the lightscribe support elsewhere04:08
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea your going to have to manualy set up your IP, gateway and primary DNS04:08
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ZomgEternalKoreaah04:08
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vr_intelikey: my burner doesn't support anything lower than 8x04:08
ZomgEternalKoreaok04:08
nixternalaaroncampbell: removing all of the errors that automatix creates is about as easy as pulling a hair from a lions tail04:08
vr_intelikey: and when i try 8x, it becomes a coaster :(04:08
intelikeyvr_ hummm  didn't know anything didn't support 1x04:09
nixternalthere is lightscribe in feisty, someone at my LUG does it every rip04:09
nixternal1x burning would cause me to hang myself04:09
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea do you know how>04:09
aaroncampbellnixternal: I'd LOVE to know how04:09
nixternalwith a rope04:09
aaroncampbellnixternal: how to use lightscribe04:09
nixternaloh04:09
nixternalhaha04:09
Daisuke_Ido80 minutes per cd04:10
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Daisuke_Idoi was stressed when i had 4x as my max speed04:10
nixternalaaroncampbell: lemme see if he is in the lug chan or one of our ghetto channels04:10
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nixternalaaroncampbell: you asked for it ;p04:10
Noldoaranupgrading from edgy just requires changing all the lines in sources.list to feisty and doing a full upgrade in adept, right?04:10
Daisuke_Idobut it was cool.  i could burn cds!04:10
ZomgEternalKoreaYeah.. i just did it.04:10
aaroncampbellnixternal: I'd appreciate it, and I agree...I was too slow on the draw...04:10
nixternalthe message is out, now I just need to wait for him to answer04:10
Daisuke_Idofinally, downloading package lists!04:10
ZomgEternalKoreaI filled ip/netmask/gateway/primary dns04:10
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea get it w?orkin04:10
Daisuke_Ido\o/04:10
ZomgEternalKoreait didnt work04:10
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ZomgEternalKoreai dont know domain/broadcast04:10
nixternal192.168.1.004:11
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intelikeylavid can you post the error message one more time please     only the error line.04:11
nixternalif you are on a 192.168.1.x network04:11
ZomgEternalKoreathats domain?04:11
ZomgEternalKoreaI am04:11
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea yeah IP and broadcast are the same04:11
ZomgEternalKoreaok04:11
lavidbash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied04:11
chemicalvampi dont have to enter domain, but i dont know about your network04:11
nixternallavid: you need to apt-get install build-essentials04:11
laviddid that already04:11
intelikeylavid that's saying that it can't run /usr/bin/perl04:11
nixternalorly, and you are using the howto from the forums or the wiki?04:12
Dragnslcrnixternal- if you think of it, beep me if you find out anything about Lightscribe. I'd like to try it out too04:12
nixternalI will do that Dragnslcr04:12
ZomgEternalKoreameh04:12
ZomgEternalKoreait doesnt work.04:12
Daisuke_Idome too, will someone buy me a lightscribe drive?04:12
ZomgEternalKoreaImma try again later, or just install another distro04:12
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intelikeylavid   ls -l /usr/bin/perl04:12
nixternalDaisuke_Ido: they are less than $30 all day now on newegg04:12
chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea if you dont have internet, how are you talkng on here/04:12
lavid-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1077808 2007-03-05 20:05 /usr/bin/perl04:12
ZomgEternalKoreaIm on my desktop04:12
chemicalvampwith wired?04:13
Daisuke_Idoi miss my ls-capable drive04:13
ZomgEternalKoreayes04:13
chemicalvampwell then wire up your laptop04:13
intelikeythat don't make sense.04:13
pulaskihello all04:13
ZomgEternalKoreathats why i bought a new rooter04:13
chemicalvampand get knetworkmanager04:13
ZomgEternalKoreaa wireless one.04:13
ZomgEternalKorea:p04:13
lavidintelikey: i'll say!04:13
ZomgEternalKoreayeah04:13
ZomgEternalKoreaimma do this.04:13
intelikeylavid i'm going to study the script some more.04:13
chemicalvampif you use a wired connection to get knetworkmanager, it will all work out04:13
pulaskiI just was able to fire up feisty fawn 7.04,04:13
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ZomgEternalKoreaok04:14
Daisuke_Idointo configuring hardware.  this is good.04:14
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lavidintelikey: thanks, i appreciate it. it was working just fine on my ubuntu feisty beta since forever.04:14
chemicalvampwas there a big update release for feisty since it came out of beta?04:15
pulaskiI've held off using edgy 6.10, what's new with ff compared to edgy? anyone?04:15
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matei1hi; I'm trying to update kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and it seems to be very slow using the Canadian update site (ca.archive.ubuntu.com); is there some way to speed up the process? maybe change site?04:15
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lavidmatei1: use a .edu mirror04:15
matei1lavid: how can I easily change the mirror? cancel the update and modify the repository sources somehow?04:16
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chemicalvampwhere would amule save completed downloads running on a live cd?04:16
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lavidmatei1: it's in the adept repository manager04:17
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intelikeylavid i can't find anything wrong with the script.     test running it as normal user and see if it burps out "Please re-run this program as the super user."   like it should.04:17
matei1lavid: okay, thanks; what .edu mirror do you recommend?04:18
lavidmatei1: any04:18
lavidit gives me the same message when i run it as a normal user04:18
lavidintelikey: the exact same message04:18
intelikeylavid yeah.  it's perl that's hosed.04:18
intelikeynot the script.04:19
lavidintelikey: gah, on a fresh install?04:19
intelikeylavid fresh install of ?04:19
tony134340chemicalvamp, i assume your /home/user folder04:19
lavidkubuntu04:19
intelikeylavid version i mean04:19
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lavid7.0404:19
intelikeylavid welcome to "newest bigest and..."04:20
chemicalvamptony134340 ried there : /04:20
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intelikeylavid try reinstalling perl see if it helps04:20
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tony134340i have a scanner that isn't supported by sane. can someone tell me if it will work in a virtual windows on kubuntu?04:20
lavidintelikey: i did... same issue. i'm going to try to remove it completely and then reinstall04:20
intelikeygood luck04:21
tony134340chemicalvamp, sorry, don't know then. might search for tmp folders04:21
lavidthanks04:21
lavidand thanks for your help04:21
intelikeylavid no i mean good luck with removing perl04:21
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chemicalvamptony134340 i found it04:21
intelikeyit will take almost everything with it.04:21
lavidgah!04:21
intelikeyand python is worse04:21
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intelikeyi have removed both,  you don't want to.04:22
arunkaleanyone use beryl here?04:22
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soulrideroh damn04:23
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soulrideri wanna kill myself!04:23
intelikeylavid  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep perl`04:23
soulrideri accidentally disocnnected the power cable from my HD while the pc was on04:23
soulriderand now if i connect the hard drive it locks up while starting up04:23
soulrideris my Hd dead?04:23
intelikeylavid that command string "should"   fix it.04:23
lavidrunning it now04:24
intelikeylavid k if that doesn't    please file a bug on perl04:24
lavidE: Couldn't configure pre-depend perlapi-5.8.7 for liblocale-gettext-perl, probably a dependency cycle.04:24
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intelikeyand on perlapi-5.8.704:25
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intelikeylavid any other errors ?04:25
lavidnope04:25
CVirusWhat happens if I interrupt the updater while it's upgrading to feisty ?04:25
intelikey!info perlapi-5.8.704:25
CVirusduring the download phase04:25
ubotuPackage perlapi-5.8.7 does not exist in feisty04:25
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Kubuntu-Noobanybody know what LVM is04:26
soulriderintelikey: can you scroll up and rad my problem please? :P04:26
intelikeylavid try apt-get remove perlapi-5.8.704:26
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keisangihi there04:26
lavidumm... probably not a good diea04:26
lavididea04:26
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CViruslavid: what happens ?04:26
intelikeysoulrider eeek.04:26
Tony_DanzaHey everybody how's it going!04:26
soulriderintelikey: im friggin desperate04:27
soulriderlike, its like it auto powers off during the bios thingy04:27
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keisangii have a kestion about kopete ... how do i run this irc command:  /msg nickserv identify mypassword04:27
soulridertry it in the chat thing04:27
soulrideruse another apssword just in case it shows up here04:27
keisangiwhat chat thing?04:27
lavidCVirus: a LOT wants to happen, something along the lines of removing everything04:28
Tony_Danzathe chat thing you are typing in now04:28
soulriderwhere youre typing your messages04:28
keisangiTony_Danzai did it .. of course .. but it doesn't work ..04:28
intelikeysoulrider understand.   but not anything i can do from here.   maybe see if you can get into bios with the disk connected       oh!  and  does the drive power up or not ?   you can hear it when you turn the box on.04:28
soulriderintelikey: i think it powers up, yes04:28
soulriderwhy do this things happen to late at night?!04:28
soulriderim gonna try again, BRB04:29
derekdoes it show up in bios?04:29
Tony_Danzaset the clock back a few hours so it thinks you have tons of time to mess around04:29
soulriderderek: i coulnt get there04:29
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intelikeysoulrider then there is hope.   if it wasn't powering on.... no hope from here.04:29
keisangiTony_Danza: a chat (/query) window with nickserv open, and " identify mypassword" text is displayed into that window, but my nick isn't actualy identified after that ..04:29
derekb/c the pc froze up?04:29
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soulrideryeah04:29
soulriderlike someimte si sa=w the intel logo04:29
soulridersoemtimes i didnt04:29
soulriderbut everything shut down04:29
soulriderexcept the power LED04:29
soulriderand something smells funny =/04:30
derekhmm.... have you tried booting w/out the drive plugged in? to see if it boots properly then04:30
Tony_Danzadid you use the right password in the /query window?04:30
keisangii think i found a bug in kopete04:30
keisangiTony_Danza: yes04:30
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intelikey!info perlapi04:31
ubotuPackage perlapi does not exist in feisty04:31
intelikey!find perlapi04:31
ubotuFound: perl-base04:31
Tony_Danzain that /query window try typing "help" or "identify help" or "help identify".... without the quotes04:31
keisangiTony_Danza: usualy when i identify myself, nickserv is answering to me: " password recognized you are now identified04:31
keisangiTony_Danza: i get no reply from nickserv no matter what.. i tryed that too04:32
Tony_Danzait's been a while since I idented, I forget what commands you can use to get some kind of response to see if it's actually responding04:32
intelikeyok i'm out for a bit.    guys good luck to your penguins.04:32
keisangiTony_Danza: your guesses were right, usualy typing " /msg nickserv help register " gives a reply04:32
keisangibut not with kopete04:33
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keisangiTony_Danza: i can say .. it's ot responding ..04:33
keisanginot04:33
Tony_Danzatry giving it a wrong password and see if it gives an error?04:34
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hitmanWillywell, that was interesting...just set up DSLinux on an old PII04:34
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keisangiTony_Danza: doesn't work either04:34
keisangiTony_Danza: i just don't get any pulse from nickserv if using kopete04:35
keisangiflat line ..04:35
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keisangino answer04:35
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hitmanWillydoes kopete support slash cmds?04:35
Tony_DanzaTry running Konversation and see if that works better?04:36
keisangihitmanWilly: it support " join #blah-channel04:36
keisangior /part04:36
hitmanWillyhmmm04:36
Tony_Danzadunno, I'm not familar with kopete04:36
hitmanWillyme neither04:36
keisangiyes.. quite few slash commands seems to work right04:36
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keisangii think the developper of kopete is here04:37
keisangii forgot his nick04:37
keisangii spoke with him last week04:37
hitmanWillykeisangi, wait a minute, nickserv is actually NickServ, i think you have to cap it04:37
keisangihitmanWilly: i try04:37
keisangihitmanWilly: nothing better04:38
hitmanWillyhmmm, don't know then04:38
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keisangithank for the   try anyway :)04:38
RawSewageWhere is the Compiz switch in Feisty04:38
hitmanWillykeisangi, the /msg cmd might not be recoignized, try /msg ing me right quick04:39
keisangi?04:39
hitmanWillykeisangi, ok, that works04:40
specialbuddyso how do i get the official 7.04 if I'm using 7.04 beta04:40
keisangithat shouldn't04:40
keisangion freenode, you cannot pm someone until you identify yourself04:40
Tony_Danza[22:40:27]  [Whois]  keisangi is an identified user.04:40
Tony_DanzaYou are.04:40
keisangiso it would mean i'm identify ?04:40
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy, normal update as in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:41
Tony_Danzamaybe it was just lag04:41
hitmanWillyit happens04:41
specialbuddyok04:41
amcrHello. Has anybody got problems installing kubuntu-amd64-alternate-7.04?04:41
hitmanWillybitchx does it to me all the time04:41
specialbuddythanks04:41
RawSewagedoesnt Kubuntu have a Compiz switch like Ubuntu?04:41
keisangihum.. nice .. so the problem is diffrent, it's just   that nickserv doesn't reply to me, or i can't see it's reply with kopete .. but well nice to see it's actualy working :)04:41
keisangithanks for the help hitmanWilly Tony_Danza :)04:42
hitmanWillynp04:42
Tony_Danzakeisangi: In kopete, is there a main "server" or "status" window that it might have shown the reply message in?04:42
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keisangiTony_Danza: no, just channel windows or pm windows .. but since when i msg nickserv it open a pm window the msg should appear there, but it's not04:43
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keisangibut basicaly no, there's no server tab04:43
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Tony_Danzahmm, that is odd. Somehow it worked though.04:44
hitmanWillykeisangi, probably would show up there04:44
keisangiyess, well, that's the important point .. if it works i'm happy ;)04:45
hitmanWillyi don't think freenode lets you do anything if your using a registered nick w/out the password04:45
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hitmanWillyso if you can join channels, that probably means it worked04:45
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keisangiyes it works i can join restricted channel which requiere to by identified .. cool ..04:46
keisangii just test with #java04:46
keisangiyou can't join if not identified04:46
keisangiany java dev here by chance?04:46
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jhutchinskeisangi: They all run slackware or debian.04:48
jhutchinskeisangi: Actually, the run solaris.04:49
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keisangijhutchins: what do you mean ?04:51
hitmanWillykeisangi, sun makes both :)04:53
keisangihitmanWilly: what are you speaking about ?04:54
keisangii don't understand what you and jhutchins are speaking about ?04:54
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hitmanWillykeisangi, java devs and solaris04:54
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hitmanWillykeisangi, solaris is another nix system, made by the same people who make java04:55
keisangino, i asked if by anychance there were any java developers here04:55
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ZomgEternalKoreachemicalvamp, knetworkmanager is dling04:56
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Davorwhen ubuntu devel can fix knetworkmanager?04:59
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chemicalvampZomgEternalKorea cool05:00
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specialbuddywhat does this mean?05:00
specialbuddy#05:00
specialbuddyhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main05:00
specialbuddy#05:00
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specialbuddyoops05:00
chemicalvampthats a repository05:00
specialbuddy!pastebin05:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:00
chemicalvampspecialbuddy befre you use the upgrade tool, let me encorage you to do a clan install of feisty, and download your archetecture specific live cd05:01
specialbuddythat's the better method?05:02
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chemicalvampfaster05:02
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jhutchinskeisangi: This is IRC ironic humor.05:02
chemicalvampand dependable05:02
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mrgvanyone know how to get ati x1950pro hardware drivers working on feisty? new version of xorg halts the ati installer for some reason..05:02
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Davorhii05:02
DavorKnetworkmanager cant show me the Wifi network list anymore.05:02
ZomgEternalKoreawoot05:02
ZomgEternalKoreawireless working05:02
ZomgEternalKoreachemicalvamp i love you <305:03
chemicalvamp;)05:03
jhutchinskeisangi: We waited until it was clear that there weren't any java developers willing to respond, then we kidded that java dev's don't run kubuntu, they run oddball Linux or they run Solaris, because they are paid by Sun to be java devlopers.05:03
chemicalvamphey dude, i dont think thats something one dude should be saying to another dude05:03
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jhutchinsWiFi is rollin' dice on ubuntu right now.05:03
arunkaleumm.. what happens if i cancel the installation midway?05:03
arunkalethe upgrade to feisty, i mean05:04
specialbuddyis it like the beta or better?05:04
keisangijhutchins: i don't share that sense of humor sorry ;)05:04
chemicalvampide cancel it now and download the iso if i where you05:04
jhutchinskeisangi: Well, sorry for troubling you then.05:04
arunkalechemicalvamp: it's downloaded and installed like 3%05:04
keisangiindeed..05:04
arunkaleif i cancel it now will it screw up my system on restart05:04
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chemicalvampwell then you got another 1 1/2 hours maybe05:05
keisangifeel very sorry little mortal05:05
jhutchinsarunkale: Oh, that's not good.  Could be just enough to work, but subtly hose the system.05:05
jhutchinsarunkale: Never do day 0.05:05
chemicalvampthey may have fixed it up, i dont know05:05
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keisangierr.. i meant:  " yea np  ..05:05
arunkalejhutchins: Mm hm.. so basically I'm stuck for the next few hours?05:05
jhutchinskeisangi: You could always do a clean reinstlal of your older version...05:05
arunkalejhutchins: the upgrade is happening quite slowly, i guess that's because of the busy servers05:05
keisangijhutchins: nah i like the last update05:05
jhutchins(please excuse the wandering "l"s.05:05
jhutchinsarunkale: Yes, very busy servers.05:06
arunkaleso i'm stuck, right? i have to let it go through?05:06
jhutchinsarunkale: Some of them also carry Mandriva, which released two (?) days ago.05:06
jhutchinsarunkale: What's your local time?05:06
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arunkale8.46am05:06
machinecraigarunkale: if you cancel your upgrade, as long as you don't reboot you should be fine05:06
jhutchinsarunkale: Oh.  Um.  You might actually need your computer today, eh?05:07
arunkalemachinecraig: i want to reboot, which is why i'd like to cancel it, but i guess i can't do that05:07
arunkaleMy upgrade to Edgy was pretty quick05:07
arunkaleSo I thought this would be as well05:07
mrgvi'm a little disappointed by fiesty... i had to check md5 of iso to make sure i actually installed a new version... (ok not true, but almost)05:07
machinecraigarunkale: missed that, sorry ;-)05:07
jhutchinsarunkale: No, rebooting is pretty much a bad idea.05:07
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chemicalvampyeah im with hutchkins05:07
ZomgEternalKoreaactually05:07
arunkalejhutchins: damn, guess my day is shot. thanks, though.05:07
ZomgEternalKoreai think it didnt work cuz i entered the wrong wep key05:07
ZomgEternalKorea>.<05:07
jhutchinsarunkale: I would go ahead and cancel, then I woudl take the opportunity to make sure I had a current backup before I did anything else.05:07
arunkaleif i cancel, will it screw up GRUB?05:08
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jhutchinsarunkale: You can, of course, just reinstall off the old CD if it goes really bad.05:08
chemicalvampcould screw up xserver05:08
jhutchinsarunkale: Not if it hasn't done the kernel yet.05:08
chemicalvampaborting an install = bad05:08
arunkaleI don't think I should take that change05:08
arunkalechance*05:08
jhutchinsarunkale: You could take a look at what files it's done (I've done multiple upgrades recently, does ubuntu tell you?), see if there's anything system-critica.05:09
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mrgvhere i was expecting out of the box (or a simple single installl) to get desktop hardware effects and it turns out i'll have settle for just getting my video card working with a little luck..05:09
chemicalvampwhats with your L key?05:09
arunkalethanks, but I think i'll just wait. i'd rather not screw this up!05:09
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arunkalethanks for the help guys05:10
jhutchinschemicalvamp: I think it may have had more of it's share of bourbon this evening.05:10
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chemicalvampwell wheres mine!?05:10
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jhutchinsmrgv: Sorry, some of us don't think the 3d stuff should have been so prominently featured, we don't think it's even at beta stage yet.05:10
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jhutchinschemicalvamp: I think the L key got it.05:10
chemicalvampi see hehe05:11
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arunkalesystem critica sounds pretty cool, though05:11
arunkalecould be the name of a band05:11
jhutchinsarunkale: How long so far?05:11
mrgvjjhutchins: how about a single package install at least? i would gladly settle for it.  i don't even have my graphics card working at all.05:11
arunkalewhen you're being interviewed on tv, you could just say "actually, it's a funny story. my keyboard had a little too much bourbon..."05:11
arunkalejhutchins: 'fetching file 37 of 815'05:12
mardianyone know of a networkable RPG game for linux?05:12
jhutchinsarunkale: Which is understandable, most keyboards can't handle much bourbon at all.05:12
jhutchinsarunkale: I mean time-wise?05:12
jhutchinsarunkale: 1.5 hours?05:12
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arunkaleAbout 30-45 minutes, i think05:12
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mrgvi have an ati 1950pro and i tried installing the proprietary drivers but they don't seem to get along with new xorg version..?05:13
chemicalvamparunkale its downloading?05:13
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jhutchinsOk, I have one report from an earlier upgrade that was 1.5 hours, I'd give it three max.05:13
mrgvthe drivers installed fine on last kubuntu version..05:13
arunkalechemicalvamp: yes05:13
anakime aew galera05:13
anakimhello i'm from brazil05:13
jhutchinsmrgv: That's the thing about alpha-grade sofware, one day it works, the next it doesn't.  Can you revert to the OS drivers?05:14
anakimHow to update my Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake for 7.04, help-me05:14
arunkaleumm.. technically, i shouldn't have konversation open during upgrade, right05:14
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chemicalvamparunkale @ what speed?05:14
jhutchinsarunkale: Nah, this is linux, you can do that.05:14
chemicalvampwhats a good Ipod sync program?05:15
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arunkalechemicalvamp: it's fluctuating quite a bit.. from 3kb/s to 29kb/s05:15
jhutchinsarunkale: New estimate, 4 hrs.05:15
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chemicalvamparunkale grab a snickers05:15
arunkalefor some time it was hovering at 3505:15
mshadels05:15
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mshade:)05:15
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arunkaleDoes anyone know if there's a 'PHP for Dummies' book?05:16
chemicalvamptook me 6 hours total at a steady 60+05:16
mshadeAre the US apt repositories down?05:16
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compilerwriterarunkale Grab a Cuban robusto, and snifter of congac.05:16
mrgvjhutchins: i have a gui going but on software so it's  a bit choppy.  the ati driver install doesn't continue bc it doesn't recognize the xorg version (seems to be newer than before..not sure why it wouldn't work..)05:16
arunkaleI mean, I pretty much know the basics, but I'd like to learn to write my own CMS05:16
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jhutchinsmrgv: You may need to give it a few days.  Files on the mirrors are barely even verified yet, and the servers themselves are hammered.05:17
mrgvi would have to downgrade the xorg to be able to install the ati drivers it seems?05:17
chemicalvampi would cancel the tool and download the live cd iso arunkale05:17
arunkalewhat are your favourite things about feisty?05:17
chemicalvampits got alot of pimp stuff05:17
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chemicalvampand i nice glitch with my wireless card :)05:17
arunkalechemicalvamp: i guess i'll wait till it's done.. I have a windows partition as well, and if grub gets screwed, then all my valuable stuff is lost05:17
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arunkalewhat pimp stuff05:18
jhutchinsarunkale: It has such dynamic hardware detection that we're sure to have plenty of problems to troubleshoot here!05:18
compilerwriterjhutchins I should have just downloaded the blasted torrent.  Adept did such a nice job in going from dapper to edgy.  So I went ahead and fired it up.  I also figured that I would help out the swarm, and lo adept is still working on the last 100 files and I have burned an iso disk from the torrent.05:18
mrgvjlhutchins: wait a few days for what again? i'm not sure what you mean.05:18
chemicalvamparunkale if it hasnt finished downloading you got nothing to worry about05:18
arunkalejhutchins: heh, you're scaring me05:18
arunkalechemicalvamp: doesn't it download and install at the same time? will things get screwed if i cancel and reboot?05:18
chemicalvamparunkale it downloads, and then after everything is fetched it installs05:19
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mshadearunkale: no, the downloads run first05:19
jhutchinsarunkale: We'll have to see.  My two favorite distros released within two days of each other, I should be able to occupy myself any time I want.05:19
jhutchinsI can program a macro for the first few days that says "Mirror problems - give it time".05:19
arunkalechemicalvamp: so i can just cancel it?05:20
jhutchinsThen I can do "I think they're working on that".05:20
shinobianyone have any ideas on using sql as backend to kaddressbook?05:20
jhutchinsThen I'll have to actually think.05:20
arunkalechemicalvamp: what happens to all the downloaded files?05:20
jhutchinsgood night an good luck!05:20
arunkalechemicalvamp: and my sources.list05:20
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chemicalvampif you get the fiesty-7.04 live cd it wont matter05:21
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jhutchinschemicalvamp: The CD will actually take longer than the install though.05:21
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mrgvhow do i check my xorg version pls?05:23
chemicalvampjhutchins didnt for me05:23
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chemicalvamp-afklater ppl05:24
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mrgvnm, i was forgetting a capital x05:25
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se7enare there no updates i was on feisty beta and i thought 2day a lot of updates should come out ...05:28
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arunkaledoes feisty look more or less the same as edgy?05:28
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acidBURNyes05:29
mrgvYES05:29
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acidBURNdon't see allot of diff05:29
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acidBURNsome bug fixes...05:29
sstchurI just upgraded to Feisty, and it crash right at the very end of the install (during remove obsolete software I think) -- Most everything seems okay anyway, but KNetworkmanager won't load for me anymore, so I no longer have a wireless conneciton.  What can I do about this?05:29
acidBURNeye candy05:29
arunkalewhat are the new packages?05:29
acidBURNI ask that same question05:30
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=== Jucato directs arunkale and acidBURN to the Kubuntu 7.04 release announcement for some of the changes
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mrgvarunkale: it looks like the bootup logo was updated.. i'm sure there are other changes too.05:31
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arunkaleJucato: was just checking that out :)05:32
Jucatoarunkale: what are the new packages? you'd have to investigate those one by one if you want to find out05:32
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hitmanWillylets see, kde 3.5.6, k3b 1.0, amarok updates, etc..05:32
acidBURNwell, been running the beta feisty, still can't update via the archives...05:32
hitmanWillyplus the new kernel05:32
hitmanWillyacidBURN, its actually probably already updated05:33
hitmanWillyacidBURN, the repos for the dev and release are the same ones05:33
RawSewagehow is Kubuntu coming along05:33
JucatoacidBURN: if you've been updating daily until 2 or 3 days ago, then you have not problem05:33
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RawSewageI dont understand why Kubuntu isnt the top distro05:34
RawSewageoh well, enough of that05:34
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acidBURNstill broadcom wireless 43xx doesn't work out of the box05:34
giovaniRawSewage: Kubuntu is somewhat unpolished compared to Ubuntu05:34
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hendaushiya05:35
giovanithat's mostly due to the much smaller team and development efforts05:35
acidBURNture05:35
hendauscan anyone help me how to creat a torrent movie and uoload it on a website please?05:35
mardianyone know of a networkable RPG game for linux?05:35
RawSewageI have a reply, but I wont go into that here05:35
acidBURNit would appear that DELL is now going to ship linux unbuntu with there systems.05:35
giovaniacidBURN: where'd you hear that?05:35
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RawSewagesigh...05:36
acidBURNvia news link..05:36
giovaniinteresting05:36
RawSewagethis needs to stop05:36
acidBURNyou might find it on google news now..05:36
giovaniwhat needs to stop?05:36
RawSewageKubuntu needs to be pushed as the main before it's too late05:36
JucatoacidBURN: it's is still not certain what distro Dell will ship with. there is not definite announcement yet05:36
acidBURNyes there is..05:36
giovaniDell already ships RedHat Enterprise, doesn't it?05:36
acidBURNMr. Dell is using it in his home05:36
hendaushelpers!! can anyone help me how to creat a torrent movie and uoload it on a website please?05:37
hitmanWillyacidBURN, the dell and ubuntu bigwigs won't confirm anything just yet...05:37
giovanihendaus: that's really not relevant to kubuntu in any way05:37
JucatoacidBURN: the fact that he uses it at home doesn't mean that Dell will ship with Ubuntu. the fact is that there is no "definite" announcement yet05:37
RawSewageI'll be angry if they choose Ubuntu and not Kubuntu05:38
hendausgiovani,  coz i am using ktorrent and i register on a website of torrents and i want to upload a movie there05:38
giovanihendaus: discuss the uploading of torrents with that website ... that has nothing to do with your OS05:38
RawSewagebut. of course, they will05:38
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giovaniI don't know if ktorrent supports creating torrents -- if they do, I'm sure it's in the documentation, or is relatively straightforward05:38
acidBURNhey, here a link that said Dell is going to use unbuntu http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2115645,00.asp05:39
Jucatogiovani: you might want to ask in ktorrent's forums then05:40
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giovaniJucato: I don't think you meant to address that to me05:40
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RawSewageI didnt have to disable IPV6 in Feisty05:40
giovaniJucato: maybe hendaus05:40
JucatoacidBURN: what line/sentence indicates that Dell will be selling pre-installed Ubuntu systems?05:40
RawSewageI wonder why05:40
Jucatogiovani: oh yeah sorry05:40
Jucatohendaus: you might want to ask in ktorrent's forums then05:40
magnus_acidBURN: It doesn't say Dell will use Ubuntu, it only says that Michael Dell is using it on his personal computer.05:40
insmodwhat does "export INTEL_BATCH"  do on google they say  export INTEL_BATCH=1 boost performance i tried export INTEL_BATCH=4 and got better reuslts05:41
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hitmanWillyRawSewage, im guessing it handles it better at the kernel level05:41
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RawSewageIs Goobuntu based on GNOME or KDE05:41
acidBURNClick here to read more about Dell's plans to release desktops and laptops with Linux pre-installed.05:41
acidBURNits right there05:41
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hendausJucato, i have movies and i need to creat them to upload it on a website, i dont know what is tracker like what should i type there?05:41
acidBURNWell, its good in one way.... ubuntu will take the lead over the others.05:42
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Jucatohendaus: again, it's not a Kubuntu-related issue. you'll have to research about that someplace else05:42
hendausJucato,  lol ok thanx anyway05:42
SkrotffsacidBURN: In that article it says "For example, we do not know at this time which Linux distributionor distributionsit will be supporting"05:42
shenmueRawSewage: What's Goobuntu though?05:42
JucatoacidBURN: yes. it says "with Linux pre-installed" not "with Ubuntu pre-installed". Ubuntu is not the only Linux distro05:42
RawSewageshenmue, what they use at Google05:42
acidBURNStay tune...05:42
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RawSewageGoogle uses a modified Ubuntu05:42
JucatoRawSewage: Goobuntu, as a distro does not really exist. They use Ubuntu and tweak it to their needs05:43
Jucato(much like any office or user would)05:43
RawSewageIm sure it exists at Google05:43
shenmueRawSewage: It really exist?05:43
RawSewageyes05:43
giovaniJucato: you have any idea where I could get some real help with a live cd problem in feisty? the forums and this irc channel haven't really had any responses05:43
JucatoRawSewage: we're talking about a distribution, not an in-house system. so as a distribution, there is not Goobuntu05:43
acidBURNdon't you think Mark, will do whatever, to take a bigger pieces of pie from windows...05:43
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RawSewageok05:44
Jucatogiovani: what sort of problem05:44
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giovaniJucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41424905:44
shenmueRawSewage: cool, any screenshots?05:44
compilerwriterHalelujah!  I am finally in the installation phase, only 1 hour 52 minutes left to go.05:44
RawSewagehttp://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&q=goobuntu&btnG=Search+Images05:44
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hitmanWillywell, if Dell starts installing ubu, they'll most likely pick up the corporate support, which would dump a LOT of funds into ubu's bank accts05:45
shinobikadressbook + SQL ideas anyone?05:45
acidBURNyes...05:46
hitmanWillywhich would probably go into more R&D, advertising, etc..05:46
JucatoacidBURN, hitmanWilly: http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=2845484%26_index=3 straigh from Mark himself05:46
lavidgood interview05:47
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Jucatogiovani: hm... sorry no idea either :(05:47
giovaniJucato: yeah, it's kind of a problem I would assume only developers could assist with ... I was hoping I could get in contact with some of them here05:48
acidBURNyou have to look at it from a global aspect, the world of computers has change, closed end os is dead05:48
Dr_willisi dont think that computers will ever catch on05:48
acidBURNwell from that article there more going on... he is hold his tongue per say...05:49
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Jucatothat has very little to do with your statement that it's final that Dell will ship with Ubuntu05:49
RawSewagecomputers are the 21st century hacky sack05:49
acidBURNthere a story, not publish that dell will fund some money05:49
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hitmanWillyand with vista being the flaming pile of crap it is, Shuttleworth might have half a chance05:49
acidBURNto get this going05:49
acidBURNyes, anti-MS05:49
insmodanyone know a fix for usplash on laptops05:50
hitmanWillybut i digress...05:50
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acidBURNin what05:50
chinowhen my freind opens up a terminal he says he dont get a prompt it just hangs...05:50
hitmanWillyjust pulling myself back ontopic05:51
hitmanWilly:)05:51
acidBURNk05:51
chinois there some type of issue with the dam kernel or something05:51
acidBURNjust think, I used to run cp/m, DOS, OS/2, Window NT, Unix, Mac, and NOW linux05:51
SkrotffsDr_willis: A professor at my university acctually wrote a book a couple of years ago predicting that the internet was just a dying fad :)05:52
Jucatochino: in Konsole or Ctrl+Alt+F1?05:52
acidBURNwell, there some truth in that05:52
chinoi think its all prompts... maybe it bash ... idk05:52
acidBURNit was supposed to be for research05:52
luckyone_Happy Feisty Day everyone!!!!05:52
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Dr_willisI just finished Jules Vernns 2000leagues under the sea.. amazing where he was right.. and amazing where he was wrong. :)05:52
arunkaleacidBURN: nothing ever lasts as it was 'intended to be'05:52
Jucatochino: if it's Ctrl+Alt+Fn only, then it might be an issue with X or the kernel05:53
acidBURNhere here05:53
hitmanWillyverne did predict the nuclear submarine with amazing accuracy05:53
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acidBURNlong live amiga05:53
hitmanWillyok, ok...:)05:53
fergerchicken05:53
Jucatopost-release hours/days aren't usually a good time to go offtopic in here... :)05:54
chinoi think its the kernel... its the only other time i've seen these types of problems05:54
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RawSewagehow do you rename your computer05:54
hitmanWillyRawSewage, /etc/hosts iirc05:54
Dr_willisactually i dont think thats right hitmanWilly05:54
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RawSewagehitmanWilly, ty05:54
giovaniRawSewage: use the "hostname" command05:55
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Dr_williscat /etc/hostname05:55
Dr_williskubuntu05:55
Jucatoyou can do it from System Settings I think05:55
acidBURNI wish kubuntu was higher on distrowatch list05:55
Dr_willisyea - theres the editing the /etc/ files way. then theres the gui way. :)05:55
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codepoetWhile trying to install unified linux drivers for my samsung printer, I get: "ERROR: HARDWARE_PLATFORM undefined, execution aborted" - any idea what I can do?05:55
giovani"sudo hostname yourhostnamehere" is how you set it05:55
hitmanWillyok, nm, hostname sounds right05:55
Dr_willisacidBURN,  download it 10000000 times. :)05:55
acidBURNopps05:55
acidBURNdisk full05:55
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RawSewageok05:56
shinobistarted feisty install05:56
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Dr_williswget kubuntu.iso > /dev/null :)05:56
hitmanWillylol05:56
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acidBURNI think the next version of kubuntu will have KDE 4 all the way05:57
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SkrotffsNot by default it wont05:57
hitmanWillyhow is kde 4 coming along, anyway?05:57
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JucatoacidBURN: probably not. but we're still discussing it05:57
SkrotffsJucato: Isn't the next kubuntu release LTS?05:57
Dr_willis'when its done' :)05:57
acidBURNyour kiding05:57
JucatoSkrotffs: no05:57
chinohey hey05:57
Skrotffsah05:57
chinoi dont have grub05:57
JucatoSkrotffs: next LTS will probably be 8.04. but that's still to be discussed05:58
chinocan someone tell methe command i can tell my freind to use for grub ... so he can ese what boot options he "would" have if he rebooted ?05:58
SkrotffsIn that case I guess its feasible :>05:58
dboyAny links to sites with good terminal shortcuts?  (noob to all linux distros)  Just wondering something out there better and more noob friendly05:58
hitmanWilly!grub05:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:58
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RawSewagethat sucks that Ubuntu gets a 1-click Compiz but we dont05:58
Skrotffsfeisty+1 is in ~6 months, right?05:58
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acidBURNhere here05:58
Dr_willisRawSewage,  where?  i dident see it.05:58
Jucato(because we don't install Compiz by default)05:58
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JucatoSkrotffs: yes. 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon05:58
acidBURNI think that one click is from linspire05:59
JucatoDr_willis: in System menu05:59
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hitmanWillySkrotffs, if they keep to their announced schedule05:59
Dr_willisheh. so it takes 2 clicks? :)05:59
RawSewageDr_willis, apparently it's in System - Preferences - Effects or something on ubuntu05:59
DaSkreechbewerk beltoon05:59
JucatoacidBURN: no. there's a special utility to enable Compiz on Ubuntu05:59
DaSkreechkies05:59
JucatoDr_willis: make that 3 clicks? :D05:59
acidBURNwhat is it?05:59
Dr_willisOk. under the gnome system/preferances tool?05:59
RawSewageI think so05:59
DaSkreechrekenmachine05:59
Jucatoactually 4 because you have to  click o the checkbox05:59
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info_emerald06:00
JucatoDaSkreech: ??06:00
RawSewageyou need to click to close the System preferences window too06:00
acidBURNjucato: what the utility06:00
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SkrotffshitmanWilly: Well, both Gusty and KDE 4 are due the same month, but I bet they're worried about incorporating a new major version that soon..06:00
Dr_willisOk - THATS majorly changed. :)06:00
Dr_willisheh heh06:00
JucatoacidBURN: in GNOME's System menu. forgot the exact name/location06:00
JucatoDr_willis: yes. 2.18 change06:00
JucatoSkrotffs: exactly.06:00
RawSewageSkrotffs, it's called Gutsy, so maybe they will06:00
acidBURNbut not in kubuntu06:00
DaSkreechJucato: i'm trying to figure out what language that is06:01
RawSewageit would take guts to put KDE 4 in Kubuntu right away06:01
hitmanWillySkrotffs, if they go LTS, probably not06:01
JucatoSkrotffs: also we can't really be sure if KDE 4.0 will really be released by October06:01
Dr_willisheh - on checking 'enable' effects.. ALMOST worked!06:01
acidBURNjucato: but not in kubuntu06:01
Dr_willisits got wiggley minimizing windows.. now. under kde. but no window decor. heh06:01
DaSkreechRawSewage: most likely not going to happen06:01
DaSkreechRawSewage: as I see it we will ship two CDS06:01
JucatoacidBURN: yes. we know that already. like I said, it's only on Ubuntu, because we don't have Compiz installed by default on Kubuntu06:01
codepoetomg... I clicked "New Printer", and ubuntu found my network printer and the drivers and everything on it's own! HOW COOL IS THAT!06:01
DaSkreech one with KDE4 and one with KDE306:02
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SkrotffsJucato: I predict that it won't.. KDE 4 has seriously overhauled and new libs that needs testing and lots of it..06:02
RawSewageDaSkreech, that would be weird06:02
acidBURNjucato: can it be install?06:02
hitmanWillyDr_willis, i had the same problem, enable ARGBGLXVisuals06:02
Dr_williscodepoet,  ive never been that lucky. i gotta enter th eprinters ip# :) or use the rather brain dead scan the network tool.06:02
hitmanWillyDr_willis, at least for nvidia cards06:02
JucatoacidBURN: COmpiz, yes. the tool to enable it, no06:02
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  enable that where? xorg.conf eh?06:02
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codepoetDr_willis: haha, yeah I gotta do that in windows (even with samsung's printer tool!)06:02
acidBURNjucato: dam, always something06:02
hitmanWillyDr_willis, yup, or nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals06:03
DaSkreechRawSewage: how?06:03
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  gotta love that tool. :)06:03
hitmanWilly:)06:03
PP188one doubt help me: when i going to update to feisty, and my edgy was x64, it OS update to x64, automaticly? please06:03
Dr_williswell guess i gotta restart the X server now.. BRB.06:03
DaSkreechanyone knows what language kies is ?06:03
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RawSewageDaSkreech, 2 Kubuntu CDs for one release06:04
DaSkreechRawSewage: I don't think it would be on release06:05
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Dr_willisOk. Now i got da wiggly windows! wee. :)06:05
RawSewagelol06:05
hitmanWillyDr_willis, it worked?06:05
Dr_willisand the whole system seems more sluggish now.06:06
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  yep. its working06:06
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SkrotffsDr_willis: Welcome to the magic of compiz/beryl ;)06:06
hitmanWillyDr_willis, fixed that myself today :)06:06
chinohe says he dont get a prompt at tty either06:06
Dr_willischecked those options in that gnome-control-panel thing. did that command to fix the xorg.conf, alt-ctrl-bs. and BAM!06:06
PP188one doubt help me: when i going to update to feisty, and my edgy was x64, it OS update to x64, automaticly? please06:06
Dr_willisnot that i really know what beryl/compwiz features are worth messing with06:06
DaSkreechRawSewage: it would be KDE3 on release two weeks later KDE4 goes legal to hunt We get a KDE4 ISO and then 6 months to make the next full release KDE4untu06:07
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hitmanWillyPP188, yes it will update to the next version of what you are already running06:07
Skrotffstransparency, animations and the expose function. Perhaps the rotating cube as well, if you use virtual desktops06:07
PP188hitmanWilly: thanks man06:07
hitmanWillynp06:07
SkrotffsDr_willis: of course, every pimped out desktop needs the "burning windows"-effect enabled when minimizing and closing windows.. *sigh*06:08
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hitmanWillyif you've got the power, why not?06:09
Dr_willisSkrotffs,  yea. seeing that. :)  I do also recall trying that Mettis (mettiss?) mandriva live cd. that had some neat features. but they were not using Beryl. they were using som eother sort of enhanced desktop.06:09
Dr_willisgoogling for beryl now - to see what to play with.06:09
Skrotffsthere are lots of plugins.. most of them proof-of-concept06:09
hitmanWillyDr_willis, the zoom out when turning the cube rocks06:09
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acidBURNwell, got to jet...........................06:10
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shinobiso what is the verdict on feisty - beryl/compiz and how to install06:10
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  oh? seeing the cube as i change desktops. not noticing any zoom out06:10
PP188hey, is screelets is nice?06:11
shinobidr_willis you have to set that06:11
Dr_willisaha. ya mean hit alt-ctrl - left/right to change.. and down to zoom out to a filmstrip thang.06:11
Dr_willisor ya mean somthing else. :)06:11
shinobidr_willis you can set a zoom factor for the 3d cube06:11
bradydavisdude im vnc'ed into this guys computer and he is not getting a console06:11
Dr_willisyea - trying to figure out where that beryl control panel is at now.06:11
hitmanWillyDr_willis, its one of the settings to zoom out on it06:11
hitmanWillyDr_willis, beryl-manager06:12
SkrotffsTry burning windows combined with motion blur, wobbly windows, raindrops on your desktop and some wild saturation values. =)06:12
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pl0xyHow can I get libdvdcss2?06:12
Skrotffs!codecs06:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:12
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  heh - that wasent installed.06:13
Dr_willisNice how the command said "use sudo apt-get install .... yadda yadda" to install it.06:13
hitmanWillyDr_willis, it doesn't by default for some reason06:13
Dr_williswonder how its doing that.06:13
hitmanWillyDr_willis, i think it uses the apt-cache database06:14
Dr_willishttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Tips/Default_Commands  there we go..06:14
hitmanWillyyet another thing i like about feisty06:14
DaSkreechDr_willis: mettise06:14
SkrotffsWhats more important; how's the support for blob drivers (mainly nVidia) and easy installation of codecs in kubuntu?06:14
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Skrotffsfeisty that is. All the pics I've seen are from ubuntu06:15
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DaSkreechanyone knows what language rekenmachine is ?06:15
hitmanWillySkrotffs, pretty good, esp nvidia06:15
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  yea thats it.. looked promising.. but with beryl i doubt if it takes off. :(06:15
hitmanWillySkrotffs, plus they have a meta package that'll install all the restricted formats06:15
Dr_willisSuper-key+Right-click Zoom in once - Hmm.. they mean that Ugly 'windows' key?06:15
SkrotffsI've also got a intel pro/wireless 3945abg card in my machine, is that binaryblobbed as well?06:15
hitmanWillyDr_willis, heh, i put a little tux sticker over mine :)06:16
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  i dont even have one. i got an old - heavy clicky ibm keyboard.06:16
Dr_willis:)06:16
Dr_willisps2 even06:17
hitmanWillynice, the classics rock06:17
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SkrotffsNothing says "im a rocker" like a 1985 IBM keyboard =)06:17
Dr_willisi cant even apt-get install beryl-manager its stuck at 0% - all the others users are hogging the bandwith! heh06:17
Dr_willisSkrotffs,  and those 'DasKeyboard Blank Keyboard Users' are just Wanna-Bee's!06:18
Dr_willis:)06:18
hitmanWillylol, probably not the best day to try it :)06:18
SkrotffsDr_willis: yeah, damn posers06:18
hitmanWillywell, there's always the DVORAK users...06:18
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Skrotffshippies06:19
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  the less said about THOSE the better. :)06:19
Dr_willisJust dont make eye contact with them.06:19
Dr_willis:)06:19
hitmanWillylol06:19
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hyperspacekubuntu minimal upgrade from cd, need to reboot and provide anything special at the first menu screen?06:21
Dr_willisHmm some of the Beryl Key's conflict with the kde keys dont they. the F7 -F9 stuff i think06:21
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igianybody had any problems with this distro-upgrade tool?06:21
SkrotffsDr_willis: beryl in general conflicts with KDE :p06:22
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Dr_willisIll just use it with WindowMaker then! :)06:22
SkrotffsAll the l33t kids use blackbox, don't you know?06:23
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hitmanWillyberyl with WM, that would be interesting06:23
RawSewageI have no problems with Feisty, although I did have to edit the conf file to add my monitor and resolutions06:23
DaSkreechkwin_composite for the win06:23
kalorin`eeeewwww, transparent glowing windows!06:23
Dr_willisI do like that Move to the top-right-click and the windows all sort of thumbnail.06:23
SkrotffsDaSkreech: Thats right.06:23
SkrotffsAm I the only one checking in on the svn repository almost every day? :|06:24
dboyyea resolutions for me on feisty are messed up06:24
dboyI'll have to learn how to edit the conf file like you then to get it fixed06:24
RawSewageyou need to find your monitor specs06:24
RawSewagerefresh rates, vertical and horizonal06:24
Whiz2I'm using my Kubuntu computer as a dedicated web server, and I have some php pages on it. one of the features of the php pages is php mail. is there a special module or configuration i need to set in order for php mail to work?06:24
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shinobifeisty install has hung at 85%06:25
kalorin`can someone explain to me what the point of transparent windows are if they only show all the way back to the background?06:25
shinobiinstalled openoffice.org-java-common06:25
kalorin`I want to see the iwindows in the middle06:25
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RawSewageshinobi, probably downloading language packs or something.  servers are being hammered today06:25
hitmanWillyshinobi, the servers are packed right now06:25
RawSewageI propose that the first day of a release should be torrents only06:25
shinobiRawSewage - Thanks, good point. i should have stayed offline for the install i guess06:26
hitmanWillyshinobi, i just tried to get a 300k file, after 5 mins gave up06:26
shinobihitmanWilly that bad huh06:27
lavidso, how do i get programs to run when KDE starts up? like an xmodmap or something06:27
kalorin`uggg06:27
kalorin`time to hit the sack06:27
hitmanWillyshinobi, yeah, that bad06:27
shinobilavid - home/xxx/.kde/Autostart06:27
lavidshinobi: thanks06:27
Whiz2no one here knows about php mail?06:27
shinobilavid put link or copy kmenu item in there06:27
hitmanWillyshinobi, i just have an executable startup script in there myself06:28
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shinobihitmanWilly I noticed that if you are lazy and just copy them out of kmenu editor, it just creates .dektop links without any of the other definitions06:29
hitmanWillyhuh, that's kinda cool06:29
RawSewageyou can right-click in the folder06:29
shinobihitmanWilly I make my own, like you, but i guess for many people they wanna drag and drop06:29
RawSewageAdd New06:29
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RawSewageCreate New -- Link to06:30
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hitmanWillywhatever works06:30
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RawSewageyes06:30
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shinobiso i'm still stuck at 85% is this gonna be a failure? anyway to make it get on with installing without any online updates?06:31
RawSewageno06:31
DaSkreechanyone knows what language taal is ?06:31
RawSewagejust wait06:31
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zxagenthello everybody06:31
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shinobitaal is language in dutch i think06:31
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DaSkreechah06:32
DaSkreech!nl06:32
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl06:32
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khatahnis there a way to disable the icon englargement / fading out animation in feisty that appears when clicking on desktop icons?06:33
matrixhi, since the last feisty updates playing videos with mplayer freezes my ui. when i use x11 output it works. Why is that?06:33
RawSewageyes06:33
RawSewageConfigure Panel06:33
RawSewageAppearance -  at the top06:34
Rictoowhere is soces.list again?06:34
Rictoosources*06:34
Skrotffs/etc/apt/06:34
hitmanWillyRictoo, /etc/apt/sources.list06:34
Dr_willis!find Kiba-dock06:34
Rictoothanks06:34
ubotuPackage/file kiba-dock does not exist in feisty06:34
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RawSewageThemes need to be cleaned up and centralized06:35
RawSewagefor KDE06:35
DaSkreechshinobi: thanks06:35
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RawSewageseems like every theme has its own installation instructions06:35
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shinobiDaSkreech - was that right?06:36
Dr_willisRawSewage,  'themes' under kde - can be rather complex.06:36
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shinobiDr_willis right, can be tricky, lots of differnt things to set right o that a theme works06:36
DaSkreechNo idea but it's a path06:36
RawSewageDr_willis, it's good that theres lots of choices06:36
hitmanWillyKDE doesn't really have any built in 'themes', the various themes just set up specific options06:37
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Dr_willisRawSewage,  not just that theres a lot of choices.. its tht the 'themeing system' can use executables to do some very custome things. Its not just a collection of images for a theme. :)06:37
matrixi'd love to be able to play videos like before. x11 output doesn't allow fullscreen06:37
Dr_willisYea even the term 'theme' gets a bit overused.06:38
shinobihat theme setting does the style but not the window decoration, that confuses me06:38
Whiz2My installation of libapache2-mod-php5 is the most current version, but my php mail isn't working. (No one receives mail sent through php mail at all) can someone tel me what i need to do to configure it to work properly?06:38
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khatahnmatrix: do you have the proper display drivers in use?06:38
RawSewageplus theres no link to Theme Manager anywhere06:38
RawSewageyou have to manually type kthememanager06:38
flaccidWhiz2: #php06:39
Whiz2flaccid: tyvm06:39
hitmanWillyRawSewage, kcontol is still there, just hidden06:39
shinobiin general how come people use system settings not kcontrol?06:39
Daisuke_Idoi'm loving the automatic codec installation06:39
RawSewagethat didnt work for me06:39
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flaccidnp06:39
RawSewageI tried to play an mp3, and Amarok asked me if I wanted the coded, and I clicked, and it crashed06:39
se7enDaisuke_Ido: how doese that work06:39
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shinobiwoohoo! 97% - cleaning up06:40
hitmanWillyRawSewage, you can apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras to install all of that06:40
Rictoohehe, nice, shinobi06:40
Rictoo=p06:40
nbcbhi i'm downloading kubuntu 7.04 now.. but what's the difference between desktop and alternate cd? which to choose?06:40
RictooI'm about to start it right now =p06:40
RawSewagehitmanWilly, not kubuntu?06:40
shinobione has desktop, one is text install06:40
RawSewageI just did the old  libxine-extracodecs06:41
hitmanWillyRawSewage, no, same package for both06:41
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RawSewagewhat else does restricted-extras have06:41
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nbcbdo u mean alternate have no gui install?06:41
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hitmanWillyRawSewage, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde vice gnome06:41
just-this-time\o06:41
Dr_willisRawSewage,  i always put that SYstemSettings Icon on the Panel first thing. Its under the 'add applets to panel' menu.06:41
just-this-time!networking06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
shinobinbcb if you know what you're doing, i like the alternate cds, just using that one right now06:41
Rictoo!ubuntu06:41
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome06:41
RawSewageDr_willis, Yeah, I usually do that too.  that has a Theme link06:41
matrixkhatahn: i have nvidia drivers. quite happy with those as now even the twien view settup ui they provide works.06:41
shinobibooting now- that was about 40 minutes even with the slow downloads06:42
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just-this-timeguys after imaging what to  do to bring eth0 up on new machine? different netcard  ofcourse06:42
Dr_willisThere needs to be a hard look at some of this stuff like that. and some logically moved/tweaked stuff. :) but thats proberly going to be in KDE406:42
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hitmanWillyRawSewage, mp3, libdvdcss3, flash, java, etc06:43
nbcbso alternate = plain text installation menu, no option to choose to install in gui ? and desktop version = gui installation with no option to choose text base installation?06:43
RawSewagehitmanWilly, oh cool06:43
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bigdad1ehow do i get the wireless card in my laptop to work? i just installed kubuntu the newest version amd64 bit on my laptop but cvant get it to connect to any of my internet06:43
khatahnmatrix: ah, well, -vo xv _should_ work with those06:43
just-this-timelspci shows me intel onboard 82562ez 10/10006:43
Dr_willisnbcb,  desktop = live cd + a fancy installer.. also. :)06:43
nbcboic.. ok i like fancy06:44
hitmanWillyRawSewage, you still have to run the script installed with libdvdcss3 to play copy protected dvds tho06:44
matrixkhatahn: i will try again. if my system crashes you will see me leave ;)06:44
Dr_willisnbcb,  fancy looking. :) but i find the alternative cd installer more 'clear'06:44
RawSewageI just realized something.  I didnt have to edit sources to allow libxine-extracodecs to install06:44
khatahnmatrix: it crashes the whole system? that's not nice :/06:44
RawSewageno multiverse editing06:44
shinobiDr_willis nbcb - agree with that, alternate is kinda minimalist but useful06:45
nbcbDr_willis: if i have problem with loading up the desktop (graphics card problem) then i have to use alternate right?06:45
bigdad1ehow do i get my internet working on my laptop?06:45
Dr_willisRawSewage,  heh -  yep. i noticed that also. I wonder if the time that totem or whatever wanted the codecs it edited that.06:45
shinobifeisty is up!06:45
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hitmanWilly!wireless06:45
matrixkhatahn: it crashed my x system. had hard time to switch to console. with -vo xv it work06:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:45
Dr_willisnbcb,  if you have gfx problem with the live cd.. hmmm..  thats a bad sign. :)06:45
RawSewageDr_willis, possible06:45
matrixkhatahn: now i wounder why it crahes if i give no parameter to mplayer06:46
hitmanWillybigdad1e, follow the link from ubotu06:46
khatahnmatrix: hmm.. well, just configure it in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf06:46
nbcbso..what's new in 7.04?06:46
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Dr_willisnbcb,  about everything. :)06:47
matrixkhatahn: is there any quality draw back by using xv when videos are scalled to full screen size? or doesn't the quality when resizing depend on the vo setting?06:47
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Dr_willisOk. im sick of the wiggly windows beryl stuff. :)06:48
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matrixwhich is the currently supported way to start beryl with kde? gnome has a menu entry, right?06:49
hitmanWillymatrix, so does kde06:49
hitmanWillymatrix, beryl-manager06:49
Dr_willisof course kubuntu dosent isntall several of the beryl related files by default - is one issue i noticed06:49
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dwhiteI am using the 7.04 Beta - do I have to change anything with repositories etc. or am I now set for the release? any docs I should read?06:50
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Dr_willisdwhite,  i  just do a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade06:50
khatahnmatrix: the quality takes a hit always when scaling is involved, but xv should be the best option. and anyway, the scaling quality depends more on how mplayer does it, xv is just a method of displaying the output mplayer produces06:50
RawSewagedist-upgrade06:51
Dr_willisdwhite,  but at this time the servers are all getting hammered...06:51
hitmanWillydwhite, if you've updated in the last couple days, you're not running the beta anymore06:51
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RawSewageoh nm06:51
Dr_willisi updated yesterday about midnight06:51
matrixkhatahn: thx for the detailed explanation06:51
shinobisources.list for feisty? how close to my edgy list can this be for the non-standard repos? (medibuntu etc..)06:52
user_after imaging network interface went to eth1 as if eth0 is another card06:52
dwhitethanx Dr_willis  - I wasn't getting anything new for the last day - was concered - will just continue06:52
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matrixhitmanWilly: when i execute beryl-manager in the konsole i loose my window decorations06:52
user_confusing a bit I want network interface back from eth1 to eth0 where to look pls ?06:52
matrixhitmanWilly: and give this information over and over in the output06:53
matrixhitmanWilly: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3206:53
hitmanWillymatrix: running an nvidia card?06:53
matrixhitmanWilly: yes with nvidia06:53
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shinobiis it fair to say today is not a great day to be doing an upgrade06:53
shinobiunless you have boundless patience06:53
hitmanWillymatrix: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals06:53
madmikeall upgraded ... why is it that beer and linux go so good togeather?06:54
hitmanWillymatrix: then restart x06:54
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DaSkreechshinobi: Whoot! thanks06:55
shinobiDaSkreech was it?06:56
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DaSkreechshinobi: yup06:56
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shinobiDaSkreech cool06:56
user_!ati06:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:57
bigdad1eok now i did everything i could to get my wireless working.. but when i click enable wireless from admin mode it turns on the right back off06:57
bigdad1ewhat do i do?06:57
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shinobibigdad1e you may have to edit the interfaces to only show the lo, knetwork manager and the system setting for network don't play nice06:58
bigdad1eand how would i go about doing that?06:58
shinobii avoid that system setting network panel totally06:58
bigdad1ei just bought my laptop today it came with vista but i cant handle windows anymore06:59
shinobibigdad1e sorry: is this a broadcom card?06:59
bigdad1ei dont know how would i find out?07:00
RawSewagecan I install the Restricted Devices Manager in Kubuntu to install nvidia drivers07:00
bigdad1eyes it is07:00
bigdad1eit is broadcom07:00
shinobibigdad1e okay, did you do any special install steps yet?07:00
hitmanWillyRawSewage, yeah, anything you can install in ubuntu, you can install in kubuntu07:00
RawSewagehitmanWilly, but will it work in KDE07:01
bigdad1eno i havent07:01
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user_ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE -- good for beryl -compiz ?07:01
hitmanWillyRawSewage, it'll just bring some gnome dependencies with it07:01
shinobibigdad1e there are two approaches as far as i can tell with this, the fwcutter route and the ndiswrapper route07:01
RawSewagehitmanWilly, ok ty07:01
shinobii have most success with the ndiswrapper route07:01
bigdad1eok07:01
hitmanWillyRawSewage, and yes, anything that works in gnome works in kde and vice versa07:01
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shinobibigdad1e let me find the useful link07:01
bigdad1eok07:02
bigdad1ethanks07:02
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nonudaany1 here used gambas?07:03
shinobibigdad1e can't find the link, and i think it was confusing anyway07:05
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shinobibigdad1e but basically07:05
arunkalewhere is my sources.list located07:05
shinobiremove the fwcutter43xx pacakge07:06
bigdad1eok. now what do i do? can u walk me through it?07:06
shinobibigdad1e add ndiswrapper 1.807:06
arunkaleI'm planning to cancel my Feisty upgrade07:06
arunkaleIt's taking too long07:06
shinobibigdad1e (using adept, or synaptic, or apt-get or whatever)07:06
bigdad1ei cant get any packages from online. its wont even let me connect through ethernet07:06
bigdad1eim on my desktop right now07:07
arunkaleWill my sources.list be modified, if i cancel it now will everything work on rebooting?07:07
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shinobibigdad1e ooh, bad...that's tricky, you coukd manually download all the files and put them on a cd or usb drive i guess07:07
shinobibigdad1e but no network access at all makes things tricky, can you not get an ethernet connection up?07:08
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bigdad1enope07:08
bigdad1eit will say conected but will not connect07:08
danihy fiesty recoginzes my bcm 43xx(4209) mini pci lan wirless card, the lan wired works fine but wireless can't search for ssid's and it won't even connect to the one i configure manually07:09
arunkalecan i cancel my feisty upgrade? anyone?07:09
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daniso can any body help me configure it using windows drivers and ndiswrapper07:09
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shinobibigdad1e okay, well, you may have to go to the repos and get your ndiswrapper 1.8 and any dependencies by hand then07:09
hitmanWillyarunkale, unless it's actually started installing packages, not just downloading, then yes07:10
daniapt get can't find ndiswrapper and i edit universal repos in fiesty like it was 6.1007:10
bigdad1edamn07:10
compilerwriterI am back from a few difficulties with the upgrade, mostly caused by my utilizing XDMCP07:10
shinobibigdad1e luckily feisty has knetwork manager already so only ndiswrapper 1.8, it only has a few dependencies07:10
compilerwriterso far so good.07:10
MuJit's feisty07:10
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hitmanWillybrb all07:11
bigdad1efeisty is a pain in my a$$ shoulda stuck with drappy07:11
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TaladanAfter my upgrade to feisty, I'm getting an error that I'm missing libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6-3.53  anyone know how I can resolve this?07:12
shinobibigdad1e my feisty i just instaled five minutes ago is giving me ethernet access no worries, was about to install my broadcom card anyway so i could have given you a guide07:12
TaladanI've tried apt-get install -f but I get errors07:12
arunkaleit says 'system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade'07:12
arunkalewill it modify my sources.list or any other important files?07:13
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bigdad1ei just installed mine 5 mins ago too..lol but thanks07:15
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shinobibigdad1e strange - is your enet card funny? or the connection type?07:16
daniwhats the password for root user in fiesty07:16
daniand how do i change to root or super user07:17
shinobidani you don't07:17
Taladanmuahahaha!  I cheated and got around it.  Swank.07:17
arunkalewhere is the sources.list located07:17
shinobidani password is same as the user you created on install07:17
bigdad1eno its a built in ethnet the connections just str8 cable07:17
giovanidani: ubuntu has you use sudo command when you want to run things as root07:17
arunkalegot it07:17
giovaniif you really want to enable your root user bash login type "sudo passwd"07:17
giovaniand then choose a password for root07:18
giovanithe password sudo asks you for is your user's password07:18
danishinobi can u tell me how i can u tell me how to access my windows partition (sda 1) from kubuntu07:18
danigiovani thx07:18
shinobidani is it fat32 or ntfs?07:18
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danintfs07:18
shinobidani okay, i think you should not try and write to it then07:18
giovanishinobi: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Windows07:19
giovaniI know it says edgy, but it's the proper way to set it up for feisty too07:19
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bigdad1eshinobi: ill brb im gonna try to fix it again07:19
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giovanidani: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access07:20
shinobidani see giovani 's link07:20
giovanithat's probably the link he wants07:20
giovanintfs read/write by all users07:20
shinobigiovani dani but i think writing to ntfs is bad07:20
arunkaleok, my sources.list is changed to sources.list.distUpgrade and the new sources.list has all feisty repos07:20
giovanisigh07:20
arunkalehow do i change things back to the way they were07:20
giovanishinobi: it's not "bad" -- it's just not perfectly stable07:20
shinobigiovani that's the same thing, if it mangles your base system, it's 'bad'07:21
danigiovani: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 should i change the hda to sda107:21
shinobigiovani but point taken07:21
giovanishinobi: "not perfectly stable" doesn't mean "unstable"07:21
giovaniI use ntfs-3g on a daily basis07:21
shinobidani yes07:21
giovanidani: whatever your system is ...07:21
danik thx07:21
shinobias per your drives07:21
shinobiyou may want to mount it somewhere other than that too07:22
giovaniyou'll need to create /media/windows07:22
giovanibecause that mountpoint doesn't exist by default07:22
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danigiovani k thx07:23
shinobidani and if you wanna make it read/write, then you may need to create it with the right permissions, or even just in your home directory07:23
giovaniwell07:23
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giovaniif he wants read/write, he needs the ntfs-3g packages07:23
matrixlooks like beryl is now starting. where do i start it per default? red something about kde auto start but i am not sure what/where it is? how to use it?07:23
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shinobigiovani do you have a useful sources.list suggestion for feisty media packages and so on07:24
giovanishinobi: check the wiki?07:24
shinobigiovani thanks07:24
giovanimatrix: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Autostart_for_Kubuntu07:25
giovanigoogling is REALLY good :)07:25
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danigiovani i want to install ndiswrapper for my network card the lan works but not the wireless if its someway to fix without ndiswrapper if not where can i download from for kubuntu07:26
giovanidani: I don't know what you're asking07:26
giovanicould you rephrase that?07:26
danigiovani: install ndiswrapper for kubuntu07:27
giovani!ndiswrapper07:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:27
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giovanidani: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper07:28
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Kubuntu-NoobKubuntu 6.10 comes with ndiswrapper allready in it edge eft07:29
Kubuntu-Noob*edgy eft07:29
Kubuntu-Nooband the alternate version  will run with < 192 MB of ram07:30
Kubuntu-Noobjust installed myself and trying to get my WG511 WiFi to work07:30
giovaniuhm07:30
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giovanindiswrapper is not installed by default in 6.1007:30
Kubuntu-Noobnot?07:30
giovanino07:31
Kubuntu-Noobwell I'm just a noob07:31
Kubuntu-Noobwhat do I know07:31
Kubuntu-NoobIt seemed like it detected my card though.07:31
shinobidani is there not a ndiwrapper 1.9 package07:31
mikes1atheros working in the final release/07:31
mikes1?07:31
shinobidani i have that one available on my brand new install with no changes to sources07:31
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giovanimikes1: atheros is well-supported in linux, no reason why it shouldn't be working -- are you experiencing problems?07:31
WillLuongoWhat is the command to edit the default webbrowser?07:32
giovaniWillLuongo: it's in the KDE System Settings -- dig around07:32
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who_can somebody explain to me how to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?07:32
mikes1giovani: feisty has been in the past ,Just wondering if it was fixed in the final07:32
Kubuntu-Noobmine detected a wifi0 and an ath0 something or other when I installed to HD07:32
giovanimikes1: feisty has been what?07:32
hitmanWilly!upgrade > who_07:32
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shinobiKubuntu-Noob it detects, but it can't run without the driver, which is not open07:33
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Kubuntu-Noobboth were atheros somethings,  Is that the chipset07:33
Kubuntu-Noobok07:33
danidoes fiesty have ndiswrapper by default07:33
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giovanidani: no07:33
Kubuntu-Noobso ndiswrapper -i <inf file>07:33
shinobiKubuntu-Noob not for atheros though only broadcom, atheros worked out the box for me07:33
Kubuntu-Noobright?07:33
daniwhere can i get the packages for kubuntu07:33
giovanishinobi: ... what?07:33
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shinobiKubuntu-Noob for braodcom yes07:33
who_how do i upgrade?07:33
giovanimadwifi is atheros -- it's open source07:33
WillLuongogiovani: The system settings doesn't do it. there is a console command somewhere that does it...07:34
danii found the ndiswrapper for ubuntu07:34
Kubuntu-Noobso atheros is the WG511 chipset07:34
danibut not kubuntu07:34
giovaniWillLuongo: the system settings DO do it -- that's how I have it configured07:34
Kubuntu-Noob. . . in the PCMCIA card07:34
giovanidani: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same system, kubuntu just includes kde packages07:34
shinobidani is this not the same thing07:34
danisorry i didn't know that it can run on kubuntu as well07:35
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giovanikubuntu isn't a different system07:35
giovanikubuntu is ubuntu + kde, simple as that07:35
Kubuntu-Noobwithout KDE does ubuntu have a GUI ?07:36
giovanidrivers are exactly the same, anything relating to non-kde stuff is exactly the same07:36
Kubuntu-Noobor prompt only or something?07:36
giovaniKubuntu-Noob: ubuntu's default gui is gnome07:36
mikes1Kubuntu-Noob: yes07:36
JabberWokkyWhat package do I install to add more bandwidth to the mirror servers?  Also, where is the setting in the Control Panel to thank all the people offering support?  I'm also having trouble finding a problem.  Would love some help.  :)07:36
mikes1can run both07:36
Kubuntu-Noobhow do you mount an atheros device?07:36
shinobibigdad1e if you are still there, ndiswrapper is on the cd of feisty it seems07:37
giovaniKubuntu-Noob: are you seriously trolling us?07:37
danik thx for ur help guys hopefully i get it right this time07:37
giovanijust get over that07:37
Kubuntu-Noobwhat's that mean?07:37
Kubuntu-Noobtrolling. . .07:37
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Kubuntu-Noobwhat07:38
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Kubuntu-Noobwhat's trolling giovani?07:38
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=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Daisuke_Ido at Fri Apr 20 03:57:36 2007
dewbishinightbird, okay, i'll give it a try07:50
mikes1Dodger73: sudo apt-get update07:50
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mikes1sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:50
Dodger73mikes1: i did that as well07:50
Dodger73ah07:50
mikes1repo's?07:51
Dodger73ok dist-upgrade i didn't try ;)07:51
Dodger73i figured that's what adept is doing anyway, just didn't want to screw up my system :P07:51
mikes1i do not like 'adept"07:51
Dodger73i like synaptic better, although adept is much faster at searching for packages07:51
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Dodger73mikes1: dist-upgrade says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded07:53
mackymanDodger73: Have you really activated  edgy-upgrade?07:53
mikes1ok you need to add/enable additional repos07:53
Dodger73edgy-upgrade? the doc didn't mention that ;)07:54
Dodger73just edgy-updates07:54
Dodger73i'll try that07:54
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mackymanDodger73: In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates07:54
mackymanOps07:54
Dodger73mackyman: yeah, that edgy-updates is enabled07:55
mackymanDodger73: I was forced to quit Adept once and then press Fetch updates 2 times07:56
mackymanBefore I got the update version button07:56
Dodger73mackyman: here's an interesting tidbit07:56
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Dodger73apt-get update outputs:   Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main07:57
Dodger73Ign means ignored?07:57
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mackymanthat it ignores that line07:57
mackyman=P07:57
mackymanExactly why, I don't know07:57
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Kubuntu-Noobgoodnight all kubuntu gurus and students -  thanks for the help07:57
codepoetis there an easy way to transfer files from windowsXP running under vmware? SMB from windows to the linux host doesnt appear to work07:58
codepoetmaybe a virtual drive browser of some sort?07:58
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mackymancodepoet: From a windows partition on your computer?07:58
codepoetnope, virtual drive07:58
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codepoethardfile sorta07:59
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mackymanUrg... Never played aroun with wmware... Sorry, can't help you07:59
codepoetnp ;07:59
codepoet;\07:59
martinjh99Which package do I need for a Stylus D88+ Printer?  No driver by default...08:00
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unix_infidelsmb works just fine.08:01
_Hug[o] _final release is out?08:02
unix_infidelalthough, you CAN mount a virtual partition in nix.08:02
mackymanmartinjh99: wait a moment, I shall se if I can get you something08:02
unix_infidel_Hug[o] _: heck topic.08:02
unix_infidelcheck*08:02
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_Hug[o] _Is it recommended to upgrade?08:02
unix_infidelas long as the version you are running is still supported, its all about what you want.08:03
martinjh99Thanks mackyman - Looking myself on linuxprinting.org08:03
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mackyman_Hug[o] _: Own preferences... I wuld wait thou... No to many great changes, better to wait and let feisty get some more stability08:04
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_Hug[o] _mackyman: That's what I thought from my experience with edgy.08:04
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_Hug[o] _I had some problems after I upgraded08:04
_Hug[o] _I would wait a month or two08:05
mackyman_Hug[o] _: The edgy upgrade was a real bumpy one08:05
mackymanThe feisty is better08:06
mackymanBut still, mine crashed08:06
mackymanYet it did a much better job than e completed edgy upgrade =P08:06
mackymanmartinjh99: It seems to be supported atleast08:06
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martinjh99I know been printing with OpenSuse - Just installed Fiesty and can't find the driver in the default install...08:07
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mackymanmartinjh99: Frustrating08:08
martinjh99FOund it - had to install foomatic-db-gutenprint...  Maybe its because I didn't have it turned on when I installed Fiesty ;)08:08
codepoetunix_infidel: If I share a folder on the XP install under VM, I can see it from all other machines on the network and access it. When I try to browse that folder on the linux host, I get "sorry, couldn't display all contents of "windows network: <computer name>"08:09
mackymanmartinjh99: Maybe!08:10
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unix_infidelcodepoet: personally i just run SSHD and scp all the needed files.08:10
martinjh99:) Thanks for the effort though...08:10
mackymanmartinjh99: Have you tried the stylus driver?08:10
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codepoetunix_infidel: good idea! might try that08:11
unix_infideli COULD mount the nix virtual machine in windows or linux, but i'd rather avoid it.08:11
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sstchurHas anyone experienced wireless/ndiswrapper problems with Feisty?08:12
unix_infidelsstchur: quite a few people.08:12
khatahnanyone else have a problem with firefox not always displaying the contents of a website until the firefox window is resized? i've had this problem at least in dapper, edgy and now still in feisty, and it's starting to get really annoying08:12
sstchurunix_infidel: is there any sort of wiki/help page about issues related to wifi in feisty?08:12
unix_infidelsstchur: seeing as it was just released today.08:13
unix_infidelnope.08:13
unix_infidelnot that i know of.08:13
mackymansstchur: I hade problems, but they where solved08:13
sstchurmackyman: what were your problems?08:13
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mackymansstchur: I culdn't connect to netword with network manager, so I had to configure manually08:13
sstchurmackyman: my situation is odd.  Ndiswrappers work fantastically in Edgy... now they neither native nor ndiswrapper drivers seem to be working08:13
mackymansstchur: And with the Feisty, I had to remove the "managed" line in my config-file08:14
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mackymansstchur: Something wrong with the Zeroconf for me...08:14
sstchurmackyman: hmm... okay.  Not sure how to attack my problem08:14
mackymanHave you used manual config?08:15
RawSewagethe restricted-manager doesnt seem to work in Kubuntu08:15
sstchurmackyman: No... I've been using KNetworkmanager...08:15
mackymankk08:15
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krautmoin08:16
mackymanKNetworkmanager won't find my networks...08:16
sstchurmackyman: oddly, KNetworkmanager does see various wireless networks (mine included), but I can't seem to connect08:16
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shinobisstchur does it stop at 28%?08:16
sstchurmackyman: I have an atheros chipset, but native drivers for me are awful -- horrible signal strength.  So (in Edgy) I switched to ndiswrapper, and everything was great08:17
mackymansstchur: Seems like wireless assistant for me =P08:17
sstchurshinobi: yes, often it stops at 28%08:17
shinobisstchur atheros chipset?08:17
mackymansstchur: How do you change your drivers?08:17
sstchurmackyman: in Edgy, I used to do sudo modprobe -r ath_pci and then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper.  then I'd start knetworkmanager and everything was good08:18
mackymanahhhh08:18
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sstchurshinobi: my network card's chipset08:18
shinobisstchur okay08:18
shinobisstchur in edgy i got that out of the box without any sprcial config08:19
sstchurmackyman: I never figured out how to permenantly unload ath_pci and put ndiswrapper in place of it, so I always did it manually08:19
sstchurshinobi: got what out of the box?  your network card running?08:19
mackymansstchur: errr... /etc/moudes.d something08:19
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sstchurmackyman: ok... but still, that isn't related to my current issue, is it?08:20
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shinobisstchur yeah, without ndiswrapper i think, for some reason i have all broadcom cards but i tried it once with an atheros and it worked without al the fuss08:20
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mackymansstchur: no... But you know from now that you can edit  /etc/modules08:20
sstchurshinobi: mine also work out of the box with edgy, but the signal strength was terrible w/ native drivers, so I switched to ndiswrapper08:20
sstchurmackyman: ok, thanks08:20
mackymansstchur: hmmm...08:21
fakepatriotdoes anyone here know how to use creox?08:21
sstchurmackyman: there is something odd... in edgy, when I had ath_pci module loaded, I could alway tell b/c knetworkmanager would show my wireless network with very poor signal strength08:21
sstchurmackyman: if I unloaded ath_pci and loaded ndiswrapper, knetworkmanger would show full strength08:21
shinobisstchur okay, i understand. sorry i can't help further i only have broadcoms now and i'm just about to see how it works out in feisty08:22
sstchurmackyman: in Feisty, I always see poor strength, which makes me wonder if ndiswrapper is loading properly08:22
shinobisstchur with ndiswrapper, i always show 100% signal strength by the way08:22
sstchurshinobi: me too!  or i did in Edgy anyway, now I don't anymore08:22
mackymansstchur: lspci and check if feisty finds it?08:22
sstchurshinobi: so I'm wondering if it's loaded properly08:22
sstchurmackyman: lspci or lsmod?08:23
shinobisstchur i don' think it was REALLY 100%, just some thing that doesn't work via ndiswrapper08:23
sstchurshinobi: yeah, could be08:23
mackymanlsmod shows wich modules that is loaded08:23
mackymanThat seems like the thing to do first08:23
sstchurmackyman: right, don't I want to verify that my modprobe ndiswrapper worked?08:23
shinobindiswrapper -l08:24
sstchurmackyman: lspci shows Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications....08:24
sstchurmackyman: but how do I know if the ndiswrapper is being used, or the native driver?08:24
mackymanlspci shows don't show wich drivers used08:24
mackymanBut wich devices are found08:25
mackymanNow you atleast know that the device is found08:25
mackymanlsmod grep | ndiswrapper ?08:25
mackymanops...08:25
mackymanlsmod | grep ndiswrapper08:25
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fakepatriot!creox08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about creox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
sstchurmackyman: yeah, lsmod | grep ndiswrapper shows ndiswrapper08:28
mackymancheck if you native drivers is loaded too then08:28
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sstchurmackyman: lsmod | grep ath turns up ath_rate_sample, wlan, and ath_hal, but not ath_pci (which is what I believe it would right?)08:29
mackymansstchur: Seems right there too...08:29
mackymansstchur: did you check as shinobi said? ndiswrapper -l ?08:30
sstchurmackyman: so maybe shinobi is right, that ndiswrapper showing 100% signal strength in the past was a bug, and the lower strength i see now is accurate08:30
mackymansstchur: Not totaly impossible08:30
sstchurmackyman: ndiswrapper -l shows neta3ab: driver installed, but it also shows something I never saw with Edgy:  device (blah_numbers) present (alternate driver: ath_pci)08:31
shinobisstchur mackyman it's always bothered me that all networks show as 100%, even since breezy days08:31
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shinobionly didn't do it when i was using fwcutter for a while, or that time with the atheros card08:31
mackymansstchur: Didn't you say that none of the drivers seems to work? Can you even connect to a network?08:32
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mackymansstchur: or even see any networks?08:33
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sstchurmackyman: yes, I can see networks for sure,... right now I'm wired08:34
sstchurmackyman: I can try connecting to my network, but i don't know if it will work08:34
mackymansstchur: try atleast08:34
sstchurmackyman: with native drivers, it dropped off a lot, and when it dropped off I could never re-connect w/o resetting my router.08:35
shinobisstchur can be that /network/interfaces08:35
sstchurmackyman: ndiswrappers didn't have thta problem08:35
sstchurand right now, it tries to connect and then dies and asks for my wpa key again (does this over and over and over)08:35
sstchurbut I can try again08:35
shinobisstchur needs to list only lo if using knetwork manager sometimes08:35
mikes1sstchur: i was having the same problem08:35
mackymansstchur: If it is as suspected, that ndiswrapper showed wrong signal strength, then you shuld prolly be able to connect again08:35
mikes1i=I08:35
shinobisstchur there is an issue with the wpa/wep that happens due to the /network/interfaces conflict08:36
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LastMallanyone have a thought or two on static vs. shared packages and which might be preferred ?08:37
sstchurshinobi: any work-around?08:37
sstchurOk, I'm going to try the wireless again.... i'll probably get booted from here08:37
noiesmohey all trying to compile an app and I am getting the following error any help appriciated http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16504/08:37
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mikes1A clean install is best08:41
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Crypthello?08:41
mikes1hello08:41
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sstchur_signal strength is showing 2 bars instead of the 4 it showed before08:41
Crypti was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is any ppc release at all fro kubuntu fesity08:42
mikes1sstchur_: staying connected/08:42
jageri wish08:42
sstchur_mikes1: ?08:42
jageri thought they dropped ppc08:42
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jagersucks too i just got this old imac i want to use08:42
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mikes1sstchur_: My lapy would drop the conection ,'atheros'08:43
Crypti remember seeing nightlies or betas but can't find any released iso today :-(08:43
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sstchur_mikes1: ah... yeah, it happened to me all the time until I switched to ndiswrapper08:43
jagerhm08:43
mikes1Crypt: Distrowatch08:44
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sstchur_mikes1: worst part was: when it disconnected, I coudln't reconnect without resetting my router08:44
mikes1sstchur_: ok i will try iy08:44
jager!google fiesty ppc08:44
mikes1it08:44
sstchur_How do I get my nick back?08:44
jageris it a registered nick08:45
jager?08:45
sstchur_jager: yes08:45
jagermsg nickserve ghost sstchur yerpassword08:45
Crypt*sigh*08:45
jageri think :)08:45
sstchur_jager: thanks08:45
RawSewagehow do I configure it so clicking a file starts it immediately in amarok rather than queuing it08:46
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kubuntuIs it necessary to upgrade the 7.04 if I installed the 7.04 beta a couple of weeks ago? Does the Beta update itself to the final 7.04 release?08:47
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Jucatokubuntu: yes you can just update to final.08:48
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shinobino  work around. sstchur just empty /network/interfaces of all except lo08:48
mikes1yes08:48
ax_camOK, I haven't seen an option in the update manager (yet) so I figured it was automatically done.08:48
ax_camWorks very well anyway, very pleased with it!08:49
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sstchurshinobi: now do you do that?08:49
sstchurshinobi: i mean "how..."08:49
shinobii do: alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces and then edit that file to leave only the lo line and the associated ip address of lo08:50
sstchurshinobi: ah, ok, thanks08:50
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shinobisstchur i have only these lines in there now: auto lo, iface lo inet loopback08:51
Whiz2anyone here know what package i need to install in order to have POP ir IMAP capabilities using exim4?08:52
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Cryptstill coming up with nothing :-(08:54
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pollyoI'm thinking about installing ubuntu on my next machine and just adding kde to it.  I believe that Gnome and KDE both use a different program in the underlining system. Kdm and Gdm perhaps?08:57
pollyoDoes one have an advantage over the other?08:57
mykyall: hi can we help me with this?08:57
unix_infidelpollyo: they are two totally different ways of doing things.08:57
mykyFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted08:57
unix_infidelpollyo: what exactly do you WANT to do.08:57
unix_infidelhow much space do you have on your hard drive, what are your specs?08:58
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pollyounix_infidel: I want to find out if anyone happens to know the difference in choosing either of those.  Kdm over Gdm. (if I have the right names)08:58
RawSewagehow do I configure it so when I click an audio file, it plays in amarok rather than getting queued08:58
TroubleHas anyone managed to upgrade to 7.04 via Adept yet?08:59
unix_infidelpollyo: they are two totally different ways of doing things like i said.08:59
mikes1pollyo: they both work fine08:59
TroubleDespite being up to date I don't have an option to upgrade08:59
unix_infidelgdm is gnome's login screen type application, and kdm is KDE's08:59
jagerwow still no projectM in feisty08:59
unix_infidelto put it in simple terms.08:59
jagerbummer08:59
pollyounix_infidel: Ok.  How do they differ or is it a big difference?08:59
unix_infidelpollyo: they differ greatly.09:00
sstchurFeisty actually seems quite a bit snappier in terms of opening applications for me.  Is that expected, or is my mind just playing tricks on me?09:00
unix_infidelpollyo: you installing for the first time?09:00
mikes1pollyo: I have kde and gnome installed and use kdm09:00
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pollyomikes1: On this system I have kdm running and have both as well.09:00
pollyounix_infidel: I will be on the next machine.  I'm some 30+ days into linux.09:00
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mrdlouisdthere was something that i had to grab in order to get krdc to function properly, does anyone know off hand what it is?09:01
shinobiunix_infidel what are those advntages/disadvantages bertween gdm and kdm? i switched early to kubuntu after a day on ubuntul, and at that time switched to kdm, since then alwasy used kdm, but only based on the fact that it has a k and i have no gnome09:02
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unix_infidelshinobi: i dont really care for either DE or DM09:02
unix_infideli use fluxbox09:02
unix_infidelits a lightweight window manager, that is very flexible and functional.09:03
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shinobiunix_infidel i looked at that, may even follow up at one point, though it's now four generations of kubuntu that i've run with kde and seems okay, any strong reason i should switch?09:04
sstchurhow do I get the quick lanuch thing back that I just removed from my KDE Panel?09:04
sonoftheclayrhello guys, i hibernated my laptop last night and now my sound doesn't work, any ideas?09:04
jagerfluxbox is great09:04
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jagernot as feature rich as kde but very very fast09:04
mackymansstchur: right-click->add applet to panel09:04
jagerand integrates weill with kde apps09:04
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jagerlike taskbar icons work as expected09:05
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jagersomething that can't be said about every wm09:05
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shinobijager don't use taskbar09:05
unix_infideli personally just use a console login screen.09:05
sstchurmackyman: thanks09:05
unix_infideland then use xinitrc to manage my wm start09:05
jageri like the task bar09:06
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mackymanWooooooooO! I didn't know that savage had become free ^^09:06
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pollyounix_infidel: So what were some of those major differences between kdm and gdm?09:06
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shinobijager alt-tab+kompose or beryl made me stop task bar09:07
unix_infidelpollyo: for your purposes?09:07
unix_infidelthe looks09:07
Bertoin 7.04 is firefox 32-bit binary + flash 32-bit still the recommended way to get flash working on a 64-bit system?09:07
shinobiunix_infidel other than looks?09:07
unix_infidelone does not do anything better than the other.09:07
unix_infidelfunctionally they are the same.09:07
jageri use beryl, still like the task bar tho09:07
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pollyounix_infidel: For the general usage.  Someone just coming into using linux.  That would cover my purposes.09:08
shinobiunix_infidel though from your perspective they're both superfluous and suck09:08
shinobijager kompose, nice when you can't use beryl09:08
unix_infidelshinobi: they are just a login mechanism09:08
unix_infideli prefer console login as i can do much more in console quickly as i need to before i start my wm.09:08
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unix_infideland if i need X i just do it, with startx boom.09:08
unix_infidelwithin 2 seconds i have a full WW ready.09:09
unix_infidelWM09:09
shinobiunix_infidel ...i'm with you, but i like to have my kdm screen, wasteful as it is, a console first thing in the morning makes me reach for the coffee!09:10
unix_infidelshinobi: sitting in a public place and booting linux wont get you the ladies.09:10
unix_infidelthat's a proven fact.09:10
mackymanunix_infidel: hahahaa09:10
mackymanNo shit09:11
shinobiunix_infidel so if i wanted to go that way, would i just uninstall kdm and gdm?09:11
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unix_infidelshinobi: or just change the initlevel you boot to.09:11
unix_infidelsee: inittab09:11
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shinobimackyman unix_infidel: depends on your creativity with graphics- linux can boot more sexily than a osx or a win09:12
shinobiunix_infidel mackyman: pimp my linux boot09:12
dettoaltrimenti_is there a version of emacs for the terminal?09:12
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mackymanshinobi: Still, you can't get girls with computers, unless they are already into i deep09:14
mackymanshinobi: and then it's more sexy without login-manager09:15
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pollyomackyman: Would that be considered nakedlinux distro?09:15
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mackymanpollyo: Never heard of... But sounds naugty =P09:16
shinobimackyman true true...but i maintain that if it looks good enough to lick, then that's what'll happen...09:16
mackymanhehe09:16
shinobimackyman if it looks good enough, you can convince someone who's never looked at a computer screen09:16
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mrdlouisdanyone use krdc?09:17
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shinobiunix_infidel sorry, where is my inittab in kubuntu?09:18
mackymanWoooo! I'm atlast getting hang of my OS =) Atlast I can do mostly of my stuff without googling around =)09:18
shinobimackyman feels good huh, just wish the repos were not so slow09:19
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lenscape!java09:19
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:19
mackymanshinobi: mm09:19
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danindiswrapper didn't work either09:19
mackymanHopefully there will be a game in the repos by me in ~5-6 years09:19
pollyomackyman: What type of game you making?09:20
mackymanDunno yet =P will start the education at the autumn09:20
mackymanA education sponserd by EA games to get forth more gameprogrammers09:20
pollyomackyman: OK.  Best of luck.09:20
mackymanpollyo: Thx, I'll need it =P09:21
danishinobi: using the free drivers for broadcom that came with kubuntu i can connect to internet using wired lan09:21
danibut click on enabl wireless it won't even enable09:21
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pollyounix_infidel: Have any ideas for a machine that only has 64 Meg of ram and a network card?09:22
unix_infidelpollyo: DSL09:22
unix_infideldamn small linux09:22
pollyounix_infidel: Cable modem.09:22
unix_infidelits a debian based distribution like ubuntu09:22
unix_infidelgoogle it.09:22
pollyounix_infidel: Ok09:22
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pollyounix_infidel: I think I might have looked at it but they suggested 128Megs of ram.09:23
unix_infidelpollyo: it can be done with 64, trust me.09:24
shinobidani, so how is that card running now? fwcutter?09:24
shinobidani, or still have done nothing yet special for the card?09:25
pollyounix_infidel: Ok. I'll give it a try.09:26
pollyounix_infidel: Maybe I'll invest in a usbdrive and install it on that.09:27
pollyounix_infidel: I suspsect I could mount the hard drive as my home drive for storage.09:27
octetdani: i got wifi using broadcom working using bcm43xx-fwcutter (WEP only)09:27
unix_infidelpollyo: most people run a thin client for low spec models like that.09:27
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pollyounix_infidel: A thin client?09:28
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pollyounix_infidel: Do you have a website you might suggest or just goodle thin client?09:28
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dognewshi09:40
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dognewsi've got problems, updating edgy to feisty: I added this kde 356 thing and did the full upgrade in adept but it doesn't show any dist upgrade wizard09:42
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PharsalusCan I ask questions here about playing .avi's in Kubuntu? I'm having a few problems.09:44
tmskedognews: what does it say when you do in a terminal: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, you'll have to close adept first09:45
g35hello, is it easy to install kubuntu on ubuntu once ubuntu is installed?  and also is it easy to switch between the two09:45
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g35or more specific is it easy to install kde on ubuntu09:45
tmskeg35, you can simply install kde on ubuntu, and then you can chose when you start up what you want to run, kde or gnome09:45
idontknow2hello09:45
Pharsalusg35: I think it is. The command line is sudo apt-get install kde I think,09:46
OleAhi!  I'm installing kubuntu feisty, and I try to use the tool for manual partitioning. First I make a root pert, then swap, but when I try to use the rest of the disk to make a /home-part, I get theis message: "You can't have the end before the beginning"09:46
hagabakawerid09:46
hagabaka*weird09:46
hagabakais kdebase not installed by default?09:46
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idontknow2when i try and login an error comes up saying "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments 2: falling back to default session"09:47
dognewstmske: ok, that seems to work :) thank's for that :D09:47
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hagabakai am using KDE on kubuntu, but kdebase is not installed...09:47
tmskedognews: np09:47
_what_if_has anyone had problems with the kubuntu installer on nvidia 7800 ??09:47
alesan^re09:47
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alesan^how can I add a repository from which I can download skype?09:48
tmskeg35: or the package kubuntu-desktop should also work I think09:49
idontknow2any ideas, i am using kubuntu 7.04, kde, kdm09:49
tmskealesan^, you can add it through adept, or just in /etc/apt/sources.list09:49
mornfallARGH09:49
mornfall [09:39:50]  Irssi: 141 new messages in awaylog:09:49
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mornfalli should disable the highlight on adept09:50
alesan^tmske, ok ... let me try. do you have perhaps a known good software repository?09:51
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mornfallwhy i ever let out such a screwed bit of software, grm09:51
shinobialesan^ i think i'm getting it from here: # Canonical Commercial packages,# GPG key: 437D05B5,deb http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial main09:51
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alesan^shinobi, what if I'm using the new version?09:52
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shinobii changed edgy to feisty in that line on the machine i'm installing now, seems to be going okay09:52
RawSewagehow do I configure it so when I click an audio file, it plays in amarok rather than getting queued09:52
rdowninghi, could someone help me with a problem I have with adept_manager ?09:52
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shinobiRawSewage that's an amarok internal setting i think09:53
tmskealesan^:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype09:53
RawSewageshinobi, I couldnt find it09:54
rdowningwhen I hit the "fetch updates" button a file download dialogue appears to get the new meta-release file but I don't think it manages to download it successfully because I don't get offered a version upgrade09:54
shinobialesan^ be warned though, skype is a so slow download for some reason, i've done a full multimedia upgrade on my base feisty and all the 100 other packages are already downloaded but skype is still chugging away09:54
alesan^shinobi, ok09:55
pollyoI think medibuntu has skpy in repos.09:55
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alesan^anyway, do you know "PLF repository"?09:55
pollyohttp://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/09:55
alesan^it seems it has interesting features like libdecss2, skype, win32 binary codecs09:55
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shinobiRawSewage you're right, can't find it either09:56
shinobialesan^ so does the canonical one, i use that plus medibuntu09:56
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tmskeRawSewage, you could ask it on #amarok09:57
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shinobi# Medibuntu multimedia packages, # GPG key: 0C5A2783, deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free09:57
alesan^shinobi, ok so I'll add canonical and medibuntu in my adept?09:57
RawSewagetmske, I did.  no answer09:57
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shinobialesan^ sure, or just paste them into your /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
shinobialesan^ don't forget to add the gpg keys too09:58
shinobialesan^ someone will probably tell me to warn you about adding repositories actually...09:58
tmskeRawSewage: maybe in #kde09:58
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duganyone having any luck with krdc, after moving to the fiesty fawn i cannot get it to work09:59
alesan^wait I'll connect from the kubuntu laptop :)09:59
RawSewagetmske, ok09:59
pollyoshinobi: What was that other site?  conanical?  Do they have a website also?09:59
shinobicanonical? i think that is the company that makes ubuntu09:59
rdowninganyone able to help with an upgrade question?10:00
Atombombe2000rdowning: not sure but ask!10:00
rdowningwhen I hit the "fetch updates" button a file download dialogue appears to get the new meta-release file but I don't think it manages to download it successfully because I don't get offered a version upgrade10:00
RawSewageApparently you need to stop currently playing files first10:00
rdowningI am behind a web proxy if thats important10:01
shinobipollyo look up canonical on google, i thinki tis the ubuntu mother company, that is there commercial app repo, that can't be included in base distro for some kind of reasons10:01
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monika__re10:01
pollyoshinobi: ok10:01
monika__I'm alesan from my gf's computer :)10:01
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monika__shinobi, could you please, repaste the canonical and medibuntu server things again for me?10:01
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shinobimonika__ sure10:02
shinobihold on10:02
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tinyxhey10:02
tmskeRawSewage: then you can write a script that first stops the playback and then plays the file and say that it must be executed when clicking a music file10:02
shinobi# Medibuntu multimedia packages # GPG key: 0C5A2783 deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free # Canonical Commercial packages # GPG key: 437D05B5 deb http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial main10:02
tinyxHow can I install Windows fonts?10:02
tinyxSomebody told me.. and I forgot10:03
RawSewagetmske, yeah10:03
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rdowningAtombombe2000: any thoughts on what I could try?10:03
Atombombe2000rdowning: Wow...I really not sure about the proxy. you said " I don't think it manages to download it" so the SW doesn't do anything...10:04
shinobitinyx msttcorefonts10:04
tinyxthank you10:04
rdowningAtombombe2000: thats right. And its a random temporary file each time so I can't trick it with a manual download10:05
tinyxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:05
tinyx  msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed10:05
tmskeRawSewage: changing the commando to open with amarok to: amarok -s && amarok  should work I think10:05
rdowningAtombombe2000: I'll try with the GNOME update-manager10:05
RawSewagetmske, ok I'll try that10:06
shinobitinyx repositories?10:06
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monika__what is the file repositories are written to?10:06
RawSewagetmske, cool. that works10:06
Atombombe2000rdowning: have you tried to "sudo apt-get update" before doing anything10:06
RawSewagetmske, ty10:06
tinyx?10:07
shinobimonika__ /etc/apt/sources.list10:07
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monika__indeed10:07
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shinobimonika__ you know how to do the gpg keys?10:07
rdowningAtombombe2000: yes that bit works fine, just tried the GNOME one and that doesn't seem to pick up the new release either10:07
tmskeRawSewage: np10:07
PharsalusIn mplayer playing .avi files from CD I get "Error! Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound" I have checked documentation and found no help. Anyone here able to assist?10:07
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rdowningAtombombe2000: ah! GNOME one has got it.......10:08
shinobitinyx see what i pasted for monika / alesan^10:08
pollyoshinobi: How many items are on that canonical?  Two?10:08
shinobipollyo items? you mean packages?10:08
Atombombe2000rdowning: The Gnometool works and Kde's doesn't...man don't say that to loud here ;-)10:08
pollyoshinobi: Yes.10:08
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monika__shinobi, I have no idea10:08
shinobipollyo i don't really know, maybe not many i guess10:09
tinyxyes, should I add something to the sources.list?10:09
pollyoshinobi: I'm showing archive.canonical.com/main and only two items under origin (from synaptic)  Guessing I added it right.10:09
rdowningAtombombe2000: yeah too right, hope it is an easy fix for someone!10:09
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shinobimonika__ # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -10:09
monika__shinobi, what is the gpg key about?10:10
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shinobimonika__ you use those two lines in konsole, replacing KEY with the number in the links i gave you10:10
monika__to make sure the packages are from a trusted source?10:10
shinobimonika__ yes exactly10:10
shinobipollyo okay, i wonder what they are and if they are available in the medibuntu one too10:11
tinyxshinobi: should I add something to the sources.list?10:11
Atombombe2000rdowning: you are using the "official" update tool. right? Makes me winder that it doesn work 4 you. Cause i hadn't had any problem with my ugrade to feisty...10:11
pollyoshinobi: opera and ralplay10:11
pollyoshinobi: I do not think I have the pgp key in place.  Would that change what would be listed?10:11
tmskePharsalus: are you able to play other files?10:11
shinobitinyx yes, you need the repositories i pasted above to get the things like ms fonts10:11
rdowningAtombombe2000: yes kosher all the way, only installed edgy a month ago and have not got any dodgy repos in there10:11
pollyoshinobi: Or simlpy let me know they are not under trusted.10:11
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shinobipollyo i don't think so, it will just warn you that they are not trusted10:12
pollyoshinobi: Ok10:12
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s0undt3chhello ppl10:12
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shinobipollyo but it makes sense that it is opera and realplay only10:12
pollyoshinobi: I do not see opera on medibuntu10:12
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tinyxthis..10:13
tinyx# gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -10:13
tinyx?10:13
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shinobipollyo tinyx monika__ skype is coming from medibuntu then i guess, so the canonical repo is only useful for realplay or opera10:13
Atombombe2000rdowning: hmm strange. But you know I am not an expert so...(maybe I should have warned you)10:13
s0undt3chI'm trying to install feisty, but I need to access net through my lan(static ips), however I keep getting device not ready10:13
shinobitinyx that is just for adding the gpg security key10:14
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rdowningAtombombe2000: thats ok, me neither! anyway its working so I'm happy, thanks anyway :)10:14
tinyxSo what should I put in the sources?10:14
unix_infidelman i hope they come out with some cheap 1GB pc333 modules.10:14
unix_infideli need em :P10:14
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rdowninggood ole JANET in the UK: 4.8M per second10:14
s0undt3chI can't use the UI because I'm on a laptop with an ati x1400(no supported)10:14
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shinobipollyo that makes sense, and in fact, i use operas repository for that, so i guess i can get rid of the canonical repo cause i don't use real play10:14
g35hello, if i have a windows ntfs partition taking over my whole hard drivea already, is it possible to install ubuntu on that same hard drive by allocating the free space of the NTFS parition to a new partition for ubuntu, while still keeping windows intact??10:15
s0undt3chso, basicly I need to setup my lan access by hand, any help from you guys?10:15
g35i meant kubuntu10:15
shinobitinyx # Medibuntu multimedia packages # GPG key: 0C5A2783 deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free10:16
s0undt3chg35: resize the ntfs partition and then yes10:16
rdowningg35: the installer should offer that as an option yes10:16
s0undt3chg35: be aware that it's a risky operation10:16
shinobitiny x change edgy to feisty if appropriate10:16
g35s0undt3ch: so it is possible to resize an NTFS partition with windows on it then allocate the resized space to a fat32 partition?10:16
pollyoBBL10:16
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g35while still maintaining the windows OS?10:17
rdowningg35: why fat32?10:17
shinobitiny x, that is three lines by the way,10:17
s0undt3chwhy to you want a fat 32?10:17
g35well anythign that supports kubuntu10:17
rdowningg35: ext3, its all automated by the installer10:17
shinobitiny x, at the '#' and before 'deb'10:17
g35thanks10:17
g35ill give it a shot10:17
tinyxokay =] ] 10:17
g35and hope gparted hels me :-D10:17
rdowningg35: good luck :)10:17
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CarinArrout of interest, if i've been running the feisty beta, is there anything in eed to do other than updating packages to be using the release version so to speak10:19
s0undt3chso any help from you guys on how to setup net within the live cd? .... from shell, no access to KDE10:19
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martinjh99Has anyone else had the problem where amarok will ask wether you want mp3 support and then stop responding?  When I click on Install nothing happens...10:19
ranjanmartinjh99: it has to me10:19
shinobimartinjh99 someone mentioned it earlier, have you tried to install the w32codecs10:20
CarinArrs0undt3ch: wireless?10:20
s0undt3chCarinArr: no, wired10:20
CarinArrs0undt3ch: dhcp or static?10:20
ranjanmartinjh99: this is what i did10:20
martinjh99Nope just libxine1-ffmpeg as per the Restricted formats wiki page...10:20
s0undt3chCarinArr: static10:20
ranjanmartinjh99: 1. purge current amarok installation10:20
tmskeg35: if you do that, make sure you backup all important files, resizing a partition is risky10:21
s0undt3chthe cable is connected, but it just seems it doesn't respond, I've teaked /etc/network/interfaces, yet nothing10:21
martinjh99ranjan> Remove it?10:21
ranjanmartinjh99: compeletely remove it10:21
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ranjan2. go to /home/your username/.kde/apps10:22
ranjan3. delete amarok folder10:22
s0undt3chCarinArr: this is a LG laptop10:22
CarinArrs0undt3ch: does ifconfig show it as having any address associated with it?10:22
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s0undt3chCarinArr: yes10:22
martinjh99ranjan> Done that - Reinstall Amarok?10:22
CarinArrs0undt3ch: the right address?10:23
s0undt3cha few hours ago, it also didn't got an address from company dhcp10:23
ranjanno go to /home/ranjan/.kde/share/apps10:23
s0undt3chCarinArr: yes :)10:23
ranjanranjan is my username10:23
s0undt3chCarinArr: home lan 10.1.0.10:23
ranjanreplace it with urs10:23
CarinArrs0undt3ch: okay.. try sudo ifdown eth0 (or whatever the interface name is)10:23
s0undt3chCarinArr: gateway 10.1.0.110:23
martinjh99Ranjan> Deleted the .kde/share/apps/amarok folder10:23
s0undt3chCarinArr: k10:23
CarinArrs0undt3ch: then sudo ifup eth010:23
ranjanok10:23
phoenix_Ghello i installed kubuntu feisty and my usb adapter does not work. what i have to do to make it work ? the usb adapter has a atheros chpset10:24
ranjannow install the following packages10:24
ranjanmartinjh99: hangon...10:24
s0undt3chCarinArr: interface not configured10:24
dystopianrayphoenix_G: you need to use ndiswrapper10:24
shinobiranjan martinjh99 that should work, i had to do that a month back too (there was a website article)10:24
Atombombe2000HeY! Gotta question...*knetworkmanager* doesn't work here on feisty as it worked in dapper/edgy....None of my wificards rtl8180/WG511v2 can connect to wifi-NW. I m wondering why? (In wlassistent does work) I don't know where to look for any kind of error-logs!10:24
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phoenix_Gis there a "how to" ? or forums ?10:24
s0undt3chCarinArr: why!? if config shows it10:25
monika__ok thank you very much shinobi and all the others :)10:25
dystopianrayphoenix_G: probably but it's very easy10:25
martinjh99shinobi> Can you remember where the website article was/is??10:25
monika__bye10:25
dystopianrayphoenix_G: do you have a windows driver for it?10:25
shinobiAtombombe2000 /etc/network/interfaces ?10:25
phoenix_Gyes10:25
CarinArrs0undt3ch: well it could be because it's the live cd10:25
shinobimartinjh99 , i think ranjan is giving you the right steps10:25
dystopianrayphoenix_G: you need the *.inf and *.sys file from the windows driver10:25
Atombombe2000shinobi: well no problem there...I ve checked /etc/netw...10:26
shinobimonika__ all skyped up?10:26
s0undt3chCarinArr: man, that's really bad, because I can't even run the live cd at full because my video driver is not supported :\10:26
ranjanmartin: reinstall from this repository http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/10:26
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phoenix_Gi must install the drivers with ndiswrapper ? ndiswrapper -i *.inf ?10:26
shinobiAtombombe2000 is it empty except lo?10:26
dystopianrayphoenix_G: yes10:26
phoenix_Gand *.sys10:26
phoenix_Gok thanks10:26
dystopianrayphoenix_G: you will need to install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils10:26
ranjanmartinjh99: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:26
Atombombe2000shinobi: yes, I haven't changed it since dapper.10:26
martinjh99Cheers Ranjan - Needs to be added to the restricted formats page...10:27
shinobiAtombombe2000 i'm about to try it with my feisty install and broadcom, hold on10:27
CarinArrs0undt3ch: can you tell me what your inet addr: your Bcast: and your Mask: say when you do ifconfig10:28
ranjanmartinjh99: cool10:28
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Atombombe2000shinobi: well i'd knew how to find error logs for knetwM. I'd be happy10:28
s0undt3chCarinArr: in interfaces -> auto eth0 | iface et0 inet static | 10.1.0.3310:29
s0undt3ch...10:29
s0undt3chnetmask 255.255.255.0 | gateway 10.1.0.110:29
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s0undt3chCarinArr: from ifconfig -> inet addr: 10.1.0.33 | BCast: 10.1.0.255 | Mask: 255.255.255.010:30
CarinArrs0undt3ch: and if you do ping 10.1.0.1?10:30
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s0undt3chCarinArr: not reacheable10:31
CarinArrs0undt3ch: try sudo route add default gw 10.1.0.110:31
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OleADoes anyone know if Feisty (release) fix the problem with the jMicron PATA controller on Intel DP965 motherboards?10:31
s0undt3chCarinArr: file exists10:32
CarinArrthat's really odd10:32
s0undt3chyeah10:32
dystopianrayOleA: it doesn't, it's mentioned in the release notes10:32
OleA:(10:32
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s0undt3chCarinArr: all I can do is try another cable, but from the win partition, running win it works :\10:33
tinyx GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278310:33
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tinyxsorry it took so long10:33
shinobitinyx you need to add the gpg keys10:34
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s0undt3chCarinArr: anyway I can tell feisty to install from cli? ie some text mode? matbe then I can fix this stuff?10:34
s0undt3chs/I can/can I/10:34
tinyxHow do I get those?10:34
shinobitinyx using the lines i pasted earlier in konsole relacing KEY with the number10:34
ranjantinyx: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:35
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shinobitinyx ranjan's way is easier10:35
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CarinArrs0undt3ch: try using the alternate install cd10:35
CarinArrs0undt3ch: it's a straight install cd, without the live malarkey10:36
s0undt3chCarinArr: heh, one more dl :) but will do10:36
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s0undt3chCarinArr: I already DL'ed both kubuntu and ubuntu feisty :)10:37
tinyxDo i do that in the terminal?10:38
tinyxLike10:38
tinyxwget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O-10:38
tinyxand then10:38
tinyxthe other?10:38
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s0undt3chtinyx: no that's a single line10:38
shinobitinyx just the whole thing in terminal10:38
ranjantinyx: sudo apt-key add -10:38
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shinobitinyx the | allows two commands in one line10:38
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tinyxgpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.10:38
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ranjantinyx:  copy the whole line and paste in konsole10:39
ranjanwget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:39
Ash-FoxSomebody recommend me a GUI frontend to configuring iptables remotely for a server?10:40
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tinyxIt said OK10:40
ranjannow sudo apt-get update10:40
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shinobitinyx ranjan 'It said OK' - should be okay then !10:41
tinyxok its updating10:41
ranjantinyx:  sudo apt-get update10:41
tinyxI'm sorry, I'm a noob(?)10:41
s0undt3chtinyx: everyone was at some point, some still are :)10:42
ranjantinyx: no worries10:42
tinyxokay it is finished updating10:42
ranjantinyx: cool now install needed packages10:43
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tinyxIt's still saying10:44
tinyxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:44
tinyx  msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed10:44
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mntpnganyone have a url for kubuntu dvd iso torrent?10:44
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ranjantinyx: post your sources.list10:44
ranjan!past | tinyx10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
shinobitinyx what are you using to do this - adept?10:45
noiesmotinyx, use aptitude instead of apt-get it will offer a resolution to dependency problems ie sudo aptitude install packagename10:45
ranjan!paste | tinyx10:45
tinyxKonsole10:45
ubotutinyx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:45
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tinyxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16517/10:46
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danforthhello10:46
shinobitinyx no medibuntu?10:47
danforthI have a question about feisty fawn10:47
phoenix_Gfor windows drivers about the usb adapter .. i must install all *.sys and *.inf with ndiswrapper ?10:47
ranjantinyx: what packages are u trying to install10:47
tinyxthe fonts10:47
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tdnAfter installing a Kubuntu 7.04 from the CD last night. I watched a video in kaffeine. The video was an .avi-file in xvid/mp3. When I closed kaffeine it crashed. I have stack trace here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=502. Can anyone please check if this is something that should be reported?10:47
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xavitoguys, I'm not so happy with kubuntu... There are LOTS of broken applications like Ark and others, and when I try to install mp3 support from amarok, it freazes allways... And some other things are slower than windows... What about you guys ?10:48
shinobiranjan tinyx medibuntu10:48
tinyxsudo apt-get install msttcorefonts10:48
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ranjantinyx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16518/10:48
danforth(xavito) tell me about your machine10:48
dhqfdoving: i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help10:48
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ranjantinyx: use that -- commented out feisty repo.... update before installing10:49
danforthI installed feisty today and everything works amazingly except I can't find where my trash bin went10:49
xavitodanforth: It's a Toshiba Sattelite M30X (laptop) normal one core centrino with Pentium M and 768 MB of ram, never had problems with any other distribuition and feisty fawn is the only one that makes my harddrive show as SCSI while it's not...10:50
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athenacan some help me please i'm unable to playback video10:52
dhq i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help10:52
crazy_penguinHello!10:53
dhqcrazy_penguin: hey10:53
crazy_penguinhi dhq10:53
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tinyxDoes anybody know what the standard font is for firefox on windows?10:53
dhqcrazy_penguin:  i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help10:53
athenacan some help me please i'm unable to playback video Please HELP!!!10:53
crazy_penguinwell i pass sorry10:53
crazy_penguini can't even imagine what happened10:54
noiesmoathena, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php10:54
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tinyxalso, I used to download fonts from a website and put them in the font folder in windows.. how do I install fonts on kubuntu?10:54
crazy_penguinit's possibile that some common library has been destroyed10:54
danikhanwhats the default kernel for kubuntu/ubuntu 7.0410:54
xavitotinyx: same as here...10:55
dhqdanikhan: 2.6.20 i guess10:55
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danikhankt hx10:55
Atombombe2000danikhan: 2.6.20-15-generic10:55
tinyxCan I use the same fonts that I download for Windows?10:55
MenaIs Fiesty Stable is out ?10:55
shinobixavito tinyx yes you can10:55
tinyxHow do I install them? With windows I just drag and drop them into the fonts folder10:56
ranjantinyx: there is a font installer in system settings10:56
Atombombe2000Mena: Yes10:56
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Menaok thanks10:56
shinobialt+F2 type kcontrol, selct administration tab, then you will see font installer10:56
Atombombe2000Mena: Since yesterday ;-)10:56
MenaAtombombe2000, ok :)10:56
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dhqcrazy_penguin: how can i fix it10:57
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tinyxwhats the default font for firefox on windows?10:57
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gnomefreaktinyx: that would be better asked in ##windows10:58
phoenix_Gathfmwdl : driver installed10:59
phoenix_Gathfmwdl.sys : invalid driver!10:59
phoenix_Gnetwg11t : driver installed10:59
arunkaletinyx: you can just drag and drop fonts in /home/user/.fonts10:59
arunkaleor usr/share/fonts/10:59
phoenix_Gsys file are not installed :(10:59
arunkalethey get installed automatically10:59
noiesmodhq,  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com10:59
dhqnoiesmo: wazz tha10:59
MenaAtombombe2000, Thanks Bye10:59
dhqnoiesmo: Service Temporarily Unavailable11:00
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phoenix_Ghow can i install the *.sys files11:00
phoenix_Ginstalling athfmwdl.sys ...11:00
phoenix_Gcouldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete11:00
ubuntuhi11:00
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Kosmonautshinobi: have you tried knetworkmanager?11:00
phoenix_Ghelp : |11:00
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arunkaleMan, I have had this feisty upgrade on for the last 6 hours11:00
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arunkaleit's still only at 48%11:00
seyitmerhaba11:00
tinyxwell thanks for the assistance guys =] ] 11:00
shinobiKosmonaut sure11:01
noiesmodhq, works for me its medibuntu site were repository for packages for codecs etc11:01
shinobiKosmonaut that's what i use11:01
shinobiKosmonaut seems to be installed as default in feisty11:01
noiesmodhq, yep down for me to now11:01
Kosmonautshinobi: I changed my name from atombombe to kosmonaut....I was asking where to find error logs, remember? ;-)11:02
arunkaleWhat's Kosmonaut11:02
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tdnKaffeine crashes. What's wrong: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P502.html11:02
shinobiKosmonaut sure okay yeah11:02
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shinobiKosmonaut just about to get it going11:02
KosmonautAs I said before: knetworkmanager doesn t work here anymore, and i m wondering why11:02
Kosmonautit worked with dapper/edgy but not in fesity11:03
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KosmonautWell it does work but no wifi connection can be established11:03
dhqKosmonaut: mine works11:03
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dhqKosmonaut: i am on a wifi connection11:03
Kosmonautdhq: the u r lucky11:04
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dhqKosmonaut: try wireless assistant its also good11:04
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Kosmonautit doesn t connect eith a rtl8180 nor with a netgear wg511. Wlassistent does work thou11:05
shinobiKosmonaut  dhq mine had worked now with broadcom and ndiswrapper on a clean feisty11:05
Kosmonaut(sorry for my english)11:05
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dhqKosmonaut: is your drivers properly working11:06
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KosmonautYes! With wlanssistant everything works fine11:06
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Kosmonautjust knetworkmanager doesn't11:07
dhqKosmonaut: well ok11:07
shinobiKosmonauti still suspect that it is because wlanassistant works that knetwok manager does not11:08
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shinobiKosmonaut there is some different config files for each that conflict11:08
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Kosmonautshinobi:  exactly!11:09
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shinobiKosmonaut wlanassstant uses same config as system setting network setting11:09
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pdroyHi all11:09
shinobiKosmonaut knetwork manager has it's own11:09
pdroySo how many of you have shifted to Fiesty here11:09
Kosmonautshinobi: what makes it hard to analyse is the fact that KNM doesn t have a logfile11:09
shinobiKosmonaut to be honest, i couldn't ever find anything for knetwork manager11:10
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shinobii just had to blank all the setting for system settings: network settings11:10
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shinobiKosmonaut and make sure i didn't check 'load on startup' option in there11:11
Kosmonautshinobi: that what I did since dapper11:11
Kosmonautshinobi: why not?11:11
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shampoontorgood morning.. can you lead me to a howto or something that tels me howto install acroread (on feisty)11:13
athenacan some help me please i'm unable to playback video and MP3 Please HELP!!! Last link did not help11:13
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shampoontorcouln find something propper with google11:14
=== Cem_UNAL how can install most codecs for Kubuntu 7.04 ( i am using amarok an kaffeine for media files )
animimotustain, 3me CD foir pour Feisty11:14
Kosmonautathena: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats11:14
=== Cem_UNAL ffmpeg ???
shinobiKosmonaut it rewrites config and interferes with knetworkmanager11:15
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shinobiathena use easyubuntu?11:15
Kosmonautshinobi: ah...I see11:16
shinobii just made my own list of relevant packages, added the repositories and did and apt-get install of those packages11:16
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phoenix_Ghow can i add a network interface ?11:17
shinobiathena in fact i've just done it five minutes ago, i ave the file available11:17
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shampoontorno idea :) ? a list of extra deb sources things would be fine too i guess11:17
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phoenix_Ghow can i add a network interface ? ? ?11:19
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s0undt3chCarinArr: alternat install says it can't find any network card :\11:20
shinobiathena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525/11:21
athenaSorry kozmanute konversation crashed can you please resnd11:21
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s0undt3chisn't feisty suposed to support the agere gigabit card!?11:21
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shinobiathena you need the repository medibuntu and also the gpg keys. note that my list has other apps i install at new install that you may remove11:21
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athenashinobi11:22
athenaits asking me for a password the one i have does not work ehat do i do?11:23
athenaits asking me for a password the one i have does not work what do i do?11:23
shinobiathena11:23
shinobiathena that is your usual password that you created for login11:23
athenadoes not work11:23
athenai'll try again11:24
athenano good... feel like crying11:24
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rolandohi11:25
shinobiathena there is really only that password unless something is very strange11:25
rolandohow do i launch the kubuntu upgrade tool_11:25
rolando?11:25
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athenahold on let me try somthing else11:25
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shinobiathena jut to test it, hit alt+F2 and type kdesu kate11:25
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shinobithen see if the password works in that prompt11:26
neonlinuxhey all... just installed feisty and want to know about 4 of the services running on boot11:26
Naradahi; i'm trying to upgrade using http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading but adept offers only a grey button for the upgrade; i can't click it11:26
athenasu: Authentication failure11:26
athenaSorry.11:26
neonlinuxanyone know what rsync rmnologin hplip and kdeguida$ do?11:26
rolandoNarada: you know how to launch the upgrade tool_11:27
Naradarolando: i just followed the instructions for kubuntu11:27
athenano good11:27
rolandoneonlinux: i think google would help there11:27
Naradarolando: but adept did not allow me to ugprade11:27
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shinobiathena maybe it's kind of locked up on sudo, that happens. you may need to reboot, though maybe someone has better suggestion of why your sudo access is strange11:27
rolandoNarada: adept tells me to launch the kubuntu upgrade tool11:28
neonlinuxrolando: ok... i was just thinkin feisty might be too new for that :).. ill do that now thanks :)11:28
Naradarolando: not for me; i'm stuck11:28
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athenaok i try a reboot back in a few moments11:28
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rolandoNarada: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:29
Naradarolando: already did that; it got edgy updates i presume11:29
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reldruhhello. I have a music collection on a server that I'd like to use as my amarok collection even when I'm not on the local network. I usually have a fast enough connection that bandwith shouldn't be an issue but amarok seems to require local files to be used in a collection. Does anybody have any ideas?11:30
rolandothen i dont know Narada11:31
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shinobireldruh mount the share locally?11:31
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neonlinuxok, sofar everything is tellign me how to start rsync on boot.. nothing is really telling me why its running11:31
reldruhshinobi: will that work when I'm not connected to my local network?11:31
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shogoukihi11:32
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shinobireldruh not unless you can access the files somehow i use openvpn11:32
athenastill no good guy's11:33
reldruhshinobi: how does that work? I've never used a vpn before11:33
shinobiathena no sudo?11:33
shogoukii cant find any kubuntu 7.04 cd torrents, any url ?11:33
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neonlinuxhplip is only if i have a hp printer right?11:33
athenais i type su and then the password it says authentication failed11:33
shinobireldruh sorry, it's a big thing, you would have to look up openvpn, there are many tutorials11:33
rolandoyes11:34
reldruhshinobi: all right, I'll look into it. thanks11:34
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shinobiathena are you sure nothings up wih your input?11:34
athenawhich input11:34
shinobiathena text input11:34
shinobiathena caps lock/num lock, something tha would mean the password was not okay11:35
Naradarolando: never mind it's working now11:35
athenatried both still no good11:35
rolandohow did you do it?11:35
athenawill try another reboot11:35
CVirusWhat happens if I stop the updater during the download process ?11:36
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banymhi11:37
gnomefreakCVirus: during download not much of anything11:37
banymexists a meta package for update kubuntu to a higher release ?11:37
gnomefreakCVirus: during install could cause problems11:38
CVirusgnomefreak: okay thanks11:38
Cem_UNALi am using one connection for internet; is konnect manager nessery ?11:38
gnomefreakjust restart the downloading11:38
Cem_UNALi want ot cancel it11:38
gnomefreakCem_UNAL: disable it and see if you still have connection11:38
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Cem_UNALgnomefreak: tx11:39
gnomefreakif yes that it should be fine. if you lose it than you need it11:39
athenastill no good11:39
athenashould i re-install????11:39
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shinobiathena uh not yet11:39
gnomefreakathena: does sudo not work?11:40
athenalet me check11:40
Cem_UNALnew kubuntu (7.04 ) is very good tx of developer :)11:40
Cem_UNAL*for11:40
athenaif i type sudo i get11:40
athenausage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v11:40
athenausage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 11:40
athena            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }11:40
gnomefreakathena: sudo -i11:40
athenayes it worked11:41
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athenawhat next i lost the web pages sent to me earlier11:41
gnomefreakfor?11:41
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MenaHi11:41
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gnomefreak!hi | Mena11:42
ubotuMena: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:42
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_4strO:p11:42
shinobi<shinobi> athena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525/11:42
athenathanks11:42
MenaOn Xp a program told me i have 64 processor so what i have to choose when downloading kubuntu11:43
neonlinuxok.. do i need rmnologin?11:43
neonlinuxi turned of hplip and rsync11:43
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gnomefreakMena: you can either use the 64bit version or 32 bit version. if you use flash and other non free codecs you will want 32bit11:44
athena-bash: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse: command not found11:44
athenaor do i copt the top line?11:44
gnomefreakathena: sudo apt-get install gs....11:44
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_4strO:p11:44
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_4strOathena: it's your first day on linux ?11:44
Menagnomefreak, ok so i gues i will use 3211:44
shinobiathena the whole thing starting with sudo11:45
athenasudo: apt: command not found11:45
shinobiMena I still do11:45
athenathis is the message i get11:45
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gnomefreakathena: sudo apt-get11:45
Menashinobi, ok11:45
gnomefreakinstall11:45
shinobiathena should read sudo apt-get install g.....11:45
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gnomefreakathena: maybe adept will be easier for you to use?11:46
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Menagnomefreak, is there a way to know what is the closestserver to my contry to download from11:46
Menacountry*11:46
gnomefreakMena: where are you?11:46
athenahow do i do that?11:46
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MenaEgypt,Cairo11:47
shinobiathena sorry, there was a extra space in there after the apt-11:47
shinobiit should work11:47
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shinobithe synaptic way or adept way is painful for this type of large intall11:47
gnomefreakthats a good question. maybe try without a country code (should give you closest working mirror)11:47
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CVirusMena: I'm from Cairo too :-)11:47
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shinobithere is no easy media codec package for synapric or adept i know of11:47
MenaCVirus, ok11:48
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CVirusMena: how about you join #EgLUG then ?11:48
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MenaCVirus, ok11:48
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shinobiathena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528/11:49
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lzaphello, how to upgrade from a mirror? I mean, I wonder to click on update in update-manager, its so slow and I wonder if it will use the main archive (which is currently under high load)11:51
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athenai'll try runing a vid now see what happens11:54
athenathanks for all you help..11:54
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what_ifin system settings I cannot get monitor and display to work11:55
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tommy_whats this: /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!11:56
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what_iftommy_: the permissions of the user running the script11:57
tommy_sorry?11:57
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tommy_it comes up when im about 2mins into installing 7.0411:58
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what_iftommy_: hmmm. may want to check the cd for defects11:58
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tommy_i've checked the CD, and the md5 sum and burnt at a low speed11:59
_4strOtommy_: ??? dont understand your pb11:59
what_ifthe I do not know, unless you have an odd piece of hardware11:59
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_4strOwhat are trying to do ?12:00
what_if*then12:00
tommy_there are also dozens of forums with people having exactally the same problem as me, i was wondering if anyone here could shed some light on the issue for me12:00
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tommy_im  trying to install 7.0412:01
_4strOtommy_: you boot on the CD, did you arrived on the Desktop ?12:02
tommy_about two mins into installing 7.04 (feisty) this error comes up : Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)12:02
tommy_Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands12:02
tommy_/bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off12:02
tommy_(initramfs)12:02
tommy_never can make it to the desktop12:02
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denis__Bonjour ici :)12:03
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_4strOok so you're not installing the system, booting on the liveCD is wrong12:03
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Doonoups it's english speaking here ^12:04
tommy_maybe.........12:04
_4strO(sorry 4 my uggly english)12:04
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_4strO!fr > Doon12:04
DoonI have a little problem with apt, could someone help me ?12:04
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tommy_everything is wrong. I click install then it starts loading then i get that error12:04
_4strOhaaaaaa12:05
Doon!fr12:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:05
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_4strOtommy_: can you open a konsole and type uname -a ?12:07
tommy_Linux tommy-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux, that came up12:08
_4strOok12:08
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_4strOtommy_: whenn did you dowload the iso ?12:08
tommy_today12:09
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_4strOmm12:09
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tommy_ive been told its a "bug"12:09
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_4strOyep i saw on anotherr chan ;)12:09
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_4strObut it look like the bug i had few days ago12:10
ubuntuWhats up everybody12:10
Aarinppl i need some help. when i try to install feisty fawn he doesn't recognise the disk controller for my Seagate ST380011A12:10
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_4strObut it was a bad kernel, and then fiw by put another kernel12:10
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tommy_but i downloaded direct from ubuntu servers.12:11
Aarinand asks which one is from a list he gives (only one option can be chosed)12:12
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baskitcaisetommy what hardware u got? drives etc and layout12:12
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_4strObaskitcaise: is it normal to have 2.6.17-10-generic on the install CD ?12:13
Aarinif it is edgy eft yes12:13
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tommy_how do i check what hardware i got in ubuntu, i have a program i use for that in windows.12:13
baskitcaiseit is the drives I am thinking of tommy, it looks like the install cannot find the cd/dvd12:14
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baskitcaiseor it is having a prob finding your hard drives12:14
tommy_people on forums have been saying similar things, only they give no solutions12:15
Aarinanyone plz help me12:15
nicolai_tommy kinfocenter might help12:15
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tommy_i dont have that program12:16
Aarinedgy has no problem with detecting my hard drives (i'm in it now) feisty doesnt recognise my ATA disk. a ST380011A12:17
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nicolai_are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu?12:17
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tommy_ubuntu at the moment12:17
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nicolai_hmm12:17
nicolai_I don't use Gnome, so i do not know the equivalent12:18
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tommy_im on the #ubuntu as well but there too many people there so i came here12:18
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jamesAnyone care to help me install Limewire? :P12:18
baskitcaiseI notice that the drives in edgy kernel are hda and in feisty ( or newer kernel ) are sda, here might be the prob12:18
athenaguys i still can't play back video avi files???12:19
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baskitcaiseI already had edgy and just updated over the net to feisty so not seen the prob here, maybe the install kernel on disk uses hda but installed kernel is using sda12:19
_4strOathena did you reboot ?12:20
Aarinbaskitcaise: mybe, but he asks me wich controller should he use. (he gives a long list)12:20
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athenano12:20
jamesWhat do I do with .rpm's?12:20
_4strOjames: in ubuntu nothing :p12:20
jamesAlien it is12:20
baskitcaisejames look at alien12:20
jamesYea I got that12:20
jamesWait a minute12:22
jamesI have a .deb file12:23
Aarinbaskitcaise: i've tried choosing diferent controllers but the only one he didn't returned to the same menu was the controller named Seagate. and with that one he didn't passed to the partitions menu12:24
tommy_ive been told that this problem will be fixed in (k)ubuntu's daily builds, will it?12:24
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brzeszczothello12:24
Cem_UNALi see nvidia logo but if i say "glxinfo | grep rendering" --> http://imaj.at/1560512:24
brzeszczotpls help12:24
james:P We can't help if we don't know the problem12:24
brzeszczotwhen i use apt-get ihave got Segmentation fault (core dumped)12:24
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brzeszczotothers program works very well12:25
phoenix_G:(12:25
brzeszczothow can i reinstall apt-get12:25
phoenix_Gi am cursed :(12:25
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brzeszczotmaybe booting from cd and using some repair software12:25
phoenix_Ganyone can help with ndiswrapper ?12:25
Cem_UNALi use nvidia-legacy12:26
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brzeszczotsomeone help..12:26
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phoenix_Gplease ? help with ndiswrapper ?12:26
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shinobiphoenix_G what's up12:26
constwow12:27
brzeszczotsome one from poland?12:27
jamesbrzeszczot: Just reinstall Ubuntu12:27
jamesEasy.12:27
constthe  whole thng looks nice now12:27
phoenix_Gi have a usb adapter with atheros chipset ... i install the 2 *.inf files and nothing happens12:27
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noam_i'm upgrading to feisty. i hope nothing goes wrong, i'm pretty satisfied from my system as it is now :)12:28
brzeszczotreinstal dont remove my stuff and instaled program?12:28
shinobiphoenix_G install means?12:28
jamesidk Just repartition12:28
constanybody knows any working undernet servers?12:28
phoenix_Gndiswrapper -i *inf < < install12:28
_4strObrzeszczot: what did you do to have this pb ?12:28
brzeszczoti was install drivers for my graphick card12:29
brzeszczotradeon 920012:29
shinobiphoenix_G ok, it's usb so it's hard for me to say. plus i never needed to install any drivers for atheros12:30
tommy_bye all12:30
noam_what's "modifying the software channels"?12:30
_4strObrzeszczot: can you paste the entire error message ?12:30
phoenix_G:( netgear sucks12:30
phoenix_Ganyway thanks12:30
_4strOtommy_: you will try a more recent version ?12:30
tommy_sorry, tomorrow i plan on trying to update to 7.0412:31
brzeszczotwhen i use apt-get program return "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"12:31
_4strOtommy_: that's what i have done few days ago12:32
tommy_some have said they got the same error as me but they updated just fine12:32
noam_omg, the upgrade is going to download 1.4gb of packages12:32
tommy_hope it works12:32
_4strO^^12:32
_4strObrzeszczot: i think that's not the entire message :p12:32
tommy_btw how big is the upgarde from 6.10 to 7.0412:32
noam_1.4gb12:33
noam_:E12:33
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_4strO!paste | brzeszczot12:33
ubotubrzeszczot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:33
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tommy_how can the upgrade be 1.4gb when you can download the whole 7.04 iso which is 690*or so*mb12:33
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noam_it's upgrading pretty much all of my installed packages12:34
noam_i have more installed than what's on the CD. i have gnome installed, for example...12:34
tommy_oh, got it12:34
tommy_i was scared for a minute there12:34
_4strO^^12:35
redmonkeyhi. what package do i have to install to be able to view png pictures? libpng2, 3, 10 or 12? and why are there so many?12:35
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tommy_well for me just today i wiped my hard drive a re-installed this version of ubuntu 6.10, so will the upgrade to 7.04 how big?12:35
athenahey guys still can't play back video12:35
noam_can't konqueror for example show pngs for you?12:35
brzeszczotso how can i reinstall ubuntu?12:36
noam_tommy_, probably not that big. but i couldn't say12:36
shinobiathena huh? nothing? are you using kmplayer?12:36
brzeszczot_4strO: what i have to do? help :)12:37
athenajust the standard12:37
tommy_OK, well ill try upgrading tomorrow. Thanks for everyones help!! bye all12:37
noam_bye :)12:37
athenawhat else can i install?12:37
noam_vlc, xine12:37
shinobiathena kaffeine?12:37
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_4strObrzeszczot: sudo apt-get update -a12:37
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shinobiathena kmplayer or mplayer vlc12:37
athenasynaptic does not have kaffine?12:37
noam_i'm a big fan of vlc. never seen it fail12:38
shinobikaffeine is by default12:38
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shinobivlc is good, kmplayer is fine too12:38
athenacant find mplayer vlc12:38
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noam_i cancelled the system upgrade for now. it's too slow12:38
Ilokaasunoam_ do u use subtitles @ vlc ?12:39
athenaonly finds kmplayer-base12:39
shinobiis that no it?12:39
_4strOathena: you're on kubuntu or ubuntu ?12:39
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athenaubuntu12:39
Ilokaasui think im not the only one who has problems seeing all the subtitles, it shows about only 1/10 of them12:39
shinobiahhh12:39
athenaahhh???12:39
shreyasi need help installing wine on kubuntu 6.0612:39
s0undt3chCarinArr: there's no way I could get lan connection, the et-131x module does not ship with xubuntu12:39
_4strOathena: you have totem too i think12:39
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shinobiathena ahh, i thought you were on kubuntu all along12:40
athenabut it does not play back vid12:40
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_4strOathena: sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:40
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shinobi_4strO that's done for athena already12:41
_4strOha ok12:41
shinobiathena right? try it and see it will tell you12:41
Aarinis it possible do discover which disk controller i'm using in my edgy eft?12:41
brzeszczotapt-get update -a  - doesn't work - return "-a dont egzist"12:42
athenaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:42
_4strOoups12:42
athenaReading package lists... Done12:42
athenaBuilding dependency tree... Done12:42
athenaE: Couldn't find package w32codecs12:42
shinobiathena is some other adept or synaptic open?12:42
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athenajust cloed it12:42
athenaclosed it12:43
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=== Cem_UNAL help please: i am using TNT2 card; glxinfo fails; my xorg --> http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=594 and my bugs on screen --> http://imaj.at/15605
athenaroot@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:43
athenaReading package lists... Done12:43
athenaBuilding dependency tree... Done12:43
athenaE: Couldn't find package w32codecs12:43
shinobiathena did you have the medibuntu repository installed??12:43
athenai dont know?12:43
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shinobiokay i think you can look at your /etc/apt/sources.list12:44
athenaany other ideas?12:44
shinobiif you have medibuntu repository in there you should get w32 codecs12:45
brzeszczot_4str0: how to  reinstall apt-get12:45
brzeszczot_4str0: or ubuntu12:45
nicolai_athena - you could also open adept and say manage repositories12:45
_4strObrzeszczot: i dont think your apt broken12:45
athenathe file in this location is called medibuntu.list12:45
_4strOjust block by an update not finish12:45
athenahow do i use adept?12:46
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_4strOathena: just open it12:46
_4strOand serach your package12:46
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M_Fatihi have too many apt error codes : http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=59512:46
athenawhere do i find adept12:46
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M_Fatihi can't install/update/remove anything12:46
nicolai_K -> system -> adept12:47
shinobi_4strO athena but if the command line said it wasn't there you will have to add the repository first12:47
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brzeszczot_4str0: so where is problem?12:47
athenaand how do i do that?12:47
_4strOshinobi: i know ;)12:47
shinobinicolai_ athena ubuntu right, it's probably different in gnome12:47
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_4strObrzeszczot: sudo apt-get update and then paste the entire message he give you12:48
nicolai_ahh12:48
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_4strO!paste | brzeszczot12:48
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ubotubrzeszczot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:48
nicolai_but adding it in any case is explained her https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu12:48
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athenashinobi what diff in gnome12:48
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nicolai_gnome uses synaptic i think12:49
gnomefreakright12:49
shinobiathena a lot of things, and i only used gnome for like three hours so i don't know12:49
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shinobisynaptic is better than adept though12:49
_4strOathena: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list12:49
athenanicolai im using synaptic12:49
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athena## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 6.06 LTS "dapper drake"12:50
athena## Please report any bug on https://launchpad.net/products/medibuntu/+bugs12:50
athenadeb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free12:50
athenadeb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free12:50
holger__moin tachchen moin12:50
_4strOathena: lsb_release -a ?12:50
shinobiso update and the search w32 codecs12:50
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athenadont know12:50
_4strOathena: are you on a dapper version ?12:50
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athenayes12:51
athenadapper  drake12:51
Cem_UNALi am using TNT2 card; glxinfo fails; my xorg --> http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=594 and my bugs on screen --> http://imaj.at/1560512:51
_4strOathena: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs12:51
_4strOCem_UNAL: i dont know12:52
athenalook like it working12:52
shinobiif not athena, how about easyubuntu?12:52
athenaeasyubuntu?12:52
_4strOshinobi: that is not a good idea ;)12:52
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athenaare you taking the shit out of me?12:53
rubynhi, is kubuntu compatible with beryl? and i beryl included in kubuntu cd?12:53
consthow do you get the windows going in circles when you press Alt-Tab?12:53
athenaits ok...if you are12:53
nicolai_athena - easyubuntu works but could mess up your system12:53
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athenaok12:53
consthow do you get the windows going in circles when you press Alt-Tab?12:53
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_4strOrubyn: compatible ... yes, include ... no (only in the universe repo)12:54
rubynthx astro12:54
brzeszczot_4str0:12:54
brzeszczotPobrano 196B w 0s (223B/s)12:54
brzeszczotSegmentation fault (core dumped)12:54
shinobiathena my mistake w32 codecs was not in my list, once you install that it should work12:54
_4strOconst: itsn't alt-tab but superkey-tab ;)12:54
athenaok its taking a while to download12:55
_4strOshinobi: w32codecs (without space)12:55
athenathanks shinobi...12:55
shinobi_4strO yeah sorry - little analog of me12:55
_4strOathena: finished ?12:56
shinobiathena it's 20 some mb so it is slow12:56
const_4strO: hmm...  what's superkey?12:56
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_4strOconst: windows key12:56
athenaits half way there..12:56
_4strOok12:56
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athenaso my bad only completed %512:57
shinobiathena once installed yur default player should work for mp3 and video12:57
_4strOshinobi: did you put the libdvdcss2 package too in your list ?12:57
athenafull crazy12:57
Bhaskar1I have ubuntu 6.06 now, i want to upgrade it into kubuntu 6.10 from CD, how it possible without loss of existing data?12:57
brzeszczot_4str0: so i pasted and?12:57
_4strObrzeszczot: give me the url12:57
frankyhow i can know the root password?12:57
_4strOfranky: you cant :p12:58
Black_Cathow do i view CHM files under kubuntu?12:58
franky_4strO:  but i am the root12:58
frankyxDD12:58
frankybut i dont know what password is12:58
Bhaskar1red, I have ubuntu 6.06 now, i want to upgrade it into kubuntu 6.10 from CD, how it possible without loss of existing data?12:58
_4strOfranky: it's the pass create with the first account user12:58
shinobi_4strO yes only w32 was missing12:58
_4strOshinobi: ok :)12:58
brzeszczot_4str0: url from where?12:58
franky_4strO:  i thought was it, but kubuntu does not accept12:58
shinobi_4strO because at that time it was like with athena, too slow and i had the .deb somewhere12:59
Black_Catfranky, kubuntu doesn't have root account in normal linux sense. you are the omnipotent user if you installed the OS with your login12:59
_4strObrzeszczot: the url where you paste the message12:59
_4strOfranky: you cant login a X session under root account01:00
_4strO(if it's what you try to do)01:00
athenahonestly if it wasn't for the help of all you guy's i'd be lost..  YOU GUYS ROCK..01:00
frankyBlack_Cat:  ok but if i want to change the drwx rwx rwx of a file?01:00
frankyno _4strO i want to change the permitions01:01
frankypermitions? my english is a bit bad...:P sorry01:01
_4strOfranky: no pb mine isn't better :p01:01
Black_Catfranky, in which program do you perform it? konqueror? mc? or...?01:02
nicolai_most of us here probably have English as second or third language :)01:02
_4strOfranky: sudo chmod 777 yourfile01:02
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const_4strO: Window-Tab is what I was looking for01:02
_4strOconst: i know ;)01:03
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constyou could be useful :-)01:03
_4strOconst: just a think, windows key is called superkey ;)01:03
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constokay, now I'm learning something01:04
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constand this magnify thing is awesome01:04
Black_Cathow do i view CHM files under kubuntu?01:05
consti'm sleepy ... in a bed with laptop...01:05
_4strOi prefer the alt-tab way01:05
noam_Black5un, kchm is pretty nice01:05
constreally nice feature01:05
_4strOBlack_Cat: did you try in ooo ?01:05
franky_4strO:  oks, but what does mean sudo?01:05
noam_er kchmviewer01:05
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lordhelmethey all....i just upgraded my laptop from edgy to feisty, and i now am missing my shutdown options from the menu in kde (running gdm with kde). i only have logout...any ideas?01:05
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_4strOfranky: sudo is to Super User DO i think01:05
Black_Catfraiddo, DO as Super User01:05
apokryphosubotu: sudo01:06
Black_Cat_4strO, erm. what're you talking about? :)01:06
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:06
lordhelmetalso my power button doesn't shutdown my laptop anymore either01:06
franky_4strO:  oks, thankyou, so in kubuntu does not exit a root?01:06
_4strOBlack_Cat: ooo = openoffice :p01:06
LeeJunFanfranky: root exists, you just don't log into root - no password set.01:06
LeeJunFan!root01:07
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:07
Black_Cat_4strO, LOL :) I'll try....01:07
LeeJunFanyou can run sudo -i to become root01:07
_4strOfranky: it exist01:07
_4strOfranky: sudo su01:07
nicolai_lordhelmet - try shutdown or killall or something like that in konsole01:07
_4strOand you will be root01:07
constbtw, how do you get root password?01:07
LeeJunFanor sudo -s01:07
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consti had to boot in "recovery mode" and type passwd there01:07
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frankyLeeJunFan:  but no doing this: sudo chmod 777 filename, i put my password as the first user and it goes ok01:08
_4strOconst: root pass is the pass tou created with the first login01:08
lordhelmetnicolai: that works just fine, but i should have my buttons....i enjoy being able to shutdown my laptop by pressing the power button, or restart with ctrl+alt+del -> alt+r01:08
constthat works... just wondering how do you folks get root password01:08
const_4strO: no, that pass did not work01:08
frankybut if i put in command line: su then i put the pwd and it gives to me a authenticion failure :S01:08
lordhelmetnicolai: i just have the logout option (with shutdown/restart on the main gdm login screen)01:08
LeeJunFanconst: you can set one. echo "root:password" | sudo chpasswd01:09
nicolai_It was also just a temporary fix. It sounds like an issue for the forum. :P01:10
_4strOlordhelmet: are you using XGL ?01:10
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consti got my pass, thx. but....01:10
LeeJunFanconst: but you shouldn't need one really, the password for your first user should get you into recovery.01:10
constafter i installed, i had "!" instead of "*"01:10
lordhelmet_4str0: no, using gdm + regular kde01:10
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elbingI upgraded last night from edgy to Feisty. All ok but, what about unofficial repos of kubuntu.org? there is just Edgy dirs01:13
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elbingwill be there feisty in future or I remove that sources?01:13
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_4strOelbing: lol01:17
_4strOoups01:17
_4strOlol01:17
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constthe most emazing thing is i have shitty inte integrated graphics01:17
constand beryl runs flawlessly01:17
brzeszczot_4str0: so what do think about that crap :) ?01:17
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constanybody got recent nvidia chip?01:18
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brzeszczot_4str0: help...01:21
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_4strObrzeszczot: try : sudo aptitude reinstall apt01:22
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brzeszczot_4str0: same results :((((01:22
shinobi_athena still downloading?01:23
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brzeszczot_4str0:01:23
brzeszczotaptitude reinstall apt01:23
brzeszczotSegmentation fault (core dumped)01:23
_4strO:/01:23
_4strObrzeszczot: sudo dpkg  --configure -a01:24
_4strOthis one will be good01:24
brzeszczot_4str0: i tried this one - didn't help01:25
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brzeszczot_4str0: aptitude doesn't work too :(01:26
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brzeszczot_4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16537/01:26
consthow do you make foucus-follow-mouse in kde+beryl?01:27
_4strObrzeszczot: what gave you : dpkg  --configure -a01:27
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brzeszczot_4str0: return nothig - empty line01:29
_4strOconst: general option / principal / focus i think01:30
_4strObrzeszczot: mmmm01:30
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_4strObrzeszczot: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?01:31
ubuntuhey, I just booted the feisty kde livecd, but it seems to select the wrong screen dimensions (I have a widescreen laptop)01:31
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ubuntuI tried every screen size in the settings menu but they all look strange01:31
_4strOubuntu : so change it :p01:32
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ubuntudo you know how I can know which one is the correct for my laptop, it isn't in the manuals01:32
_4strOubuntu: ha ok :) did you try to change de refreh frequncy too ?01:32
ubuntuno, it's a 60Hz01:32
ubuntus/a/at01:32
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ubuntubut that's the only option in the combobox01:33
_4strOok01:33
const_4strO: i found general options (in beryl) .... :-)    but there is no principa/foucus there01:33
ubuntuin dapper it was ok01:33
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_4strOconst: there is one , actually i think it's on the fist page and you have to go down the page ;)01:34
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Novaequick question guys, i installed one of the recent kubuntu betas and so have kde installed however i'd like to reinstall kde from scratch so i can remove some of the useless stuff i don't use.01:34
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ubuntu_4strO: 1024x768 was the one kubuntu selected, that't not widescreen right?01:35
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shinobi_Novae but you don't want  a full reinstall?01:35
Novaetrying to do this via the package manager is too hard as there are too many dependancies...01:35
_4strOubuntu right01:35
ubuntuok thx01:35
nicolai_ubuntu - you're correct. that isn't widescreen01:35
Novaeshinobi_ nope, i've got most of the stuff setup and it took me forever to install in the first place...stupid kernel...01:35
ubuntu_4strO: I know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but is that possible on a livecd?01:36
shinobi_Novae sure there was a nice piece on how to do it using command line and a list of packages that make up the base kde install you may have to google it01:36
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Novaelol, i ended up having to chroot in and compile a new kernel to get a couple of things working...01:36
_4strOubuntu: never try but ui think yes01:36
MidMarkguys I have no shut down and reboot options, only end session!01:37
MidMarksomeone else experiencing this problem?01:37
MidMarkafter Feisty upgrade01:37
Novaei've seen the page but i don't think they have a list of packages for feisty and i'm not sure how similiar to efty the package setup is...01:37
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shinobi_MidMark did you do strtx from command line?01:37
const_4strO: thanks! I'm blind :-)01:37
MidMarknope, but I'm under kubuntu but gdm is selected not kdm, don't know if this change01:37
_4strOconst: ;)01:37
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_4strOMidMark: why not try with kdm ?01:38
shinobi_MidMark if i start the x server with start x even with kdm i can only choose end session01:38
MidMarkI can try, but I don't like it01:38
MidMarkshinobi_: I _don't_ have started with startx01:38
ubuntu_4strO: cool, I changed a bit, going to relogin now, feels really strange editing a livecd file, but I guess everything is stored in mem :-) brb01:38
MidMarknormal boot01:38
_4strOubuntu: right but you will lose it at next reboot :)01:39
_4strOtoo late ...01:39
_4strObrzeszczot: ??? what's hap ?01:40
const_4strO: i'm off to bed01:40
constnice chattingwith you01:40
constsee you later01:40
_4strO;)01:40
_4strOyes seeya01:40
_4strOaround ...01:40
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Bluetoothhi all01:40
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Bluetoothneed help upgrading egdy to fiesty01:41
Bluetoothtried as it's written on ubuntu.com01:41
Bluetoothno luck01:41
_4strOBluetooth: dont think it's the right moment to do this :p01:41
Bluetoothwhen then?01:41
_4strOBluetooth: what's your pb ?01:42
_4strOBlue01:42
dhqBluetooth: use updatemanager the best01:42
shinobi_Bluetooth _4strO maybe after a few days?01:42
dhq!update-manager01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about update-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:42
_4strOBluetooth: whenn less people upgrade ;)01:42
Bluetoothaaa01:42
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Bluetoothok01:42
Bluetooth>D01:42
Bluetooth:D01:42
shinobi_Bluetooth sooooo slooow right now01:42
_4strOBluetooth: you have pb to join ubuntu servers ?01:42
Bluetoothbut it doesn't say that upgrade is possible as in ubuntu01:42
Bluetoothwhat is pb?01:43
_4strOpb = problem :p01:43
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Bluetoothu mean connect?01:43
_4strOyep01:43
Bluetoothno01:43
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Bluetoothno pb with connection01:43
_4strOthen what ?01:43
dhqmy flash in konqueror doesnt work please help01:44
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shinobi_Bluetooth _4strO probably just slooooow01:44
Bluetoothit just doesn't say upgrade is possible01:44
BluetoothI mean adept01:44
_4strOdhq: and in firefox ?01:44
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amigraveafter the dist upgrade from edgy to feisty, the X server is not starting because I was using nvidia module (installed on edgy using envy script). What is the best way to install nvidia driver on feisty ?01:44
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dhq_4strO: works fine01:45
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shinobi_amigrave sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?01:45
ubuntulol, _4strO I restarted the x server but of course didn't know the user name or password :-D01:45
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Bluetoothso what to do?01:45
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ubuntubut I saw the the dimension where good now, the login screen looked ok01:45
ubuntuso I'm going to install now01:45
Bluetoothmaybe I should add some deps01:45
lag_3di installed beryl but now i lost the window titlebar, how do i recover the titlebar?01:46
shinobi_Bluetooth didi you change edgy to feisty in source.list01:46
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Bluetoothmanually?01:46
_riccardohello01:46
_4strOubuntu : ^^01:46
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dhqlag_3d: install emrald window manager01:46
lag_3dBluetooth: doesn't matter, as long as it works :)01:46
_riccardoanybody having problems with the installer not recognising the existing partitions?01:46
shinobi_Bluetooth sure then try it01:46
BluetoothI just added a dep as it's written on site01:46
_riccardoi have /dev/sda01:47
lag_3ddhq: cool, thanks01:47
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_riccardobut i also have sda1,sda2,sda3 etc01:47
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Bluetoothjust change edgy to fiesty on all depos?01:47
dhq_4strO: flash in fire fox ok01:47
_riccardobut the installer just sees sda and wants to write another partition table :-(01:47
shinobi_Bluetooth osrry i don't know the site so i am maybe give you wrong info, but in principal it would seem weird to still have edgy in your sources list if you are updating to feisty01:47
lag_3dand, btw, they promissed feisty would feature compiz installed by default and enableable from a certain control pannel -- well, i don't find that control pannel01:47
_4strOdhq: locate libflashplayer.so01:48
shinobi_lag_3d ubuntu yes, kubuntu no01:48
lag_3dwhy don't i find that in kubuntu01:48
Bluetoothshinobi_ I'll try01:48
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dhq_4strO: and01:48
_4strOdhq: give it you some result ?01:48
Novaeso, does anyone know how to install kde-core(replacing kububtu-desktop) without removing general kubuntu functionality?01:48
lag_3dshinobi_: oh, so kubuntu has no feature parity with ubuntu??01:48
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lag_3dshinobi_: are there any other things where ubuntu has more options than kubuntu?01:49
athenahey guys just finished and still can't play back avi files01:49
_4strOlag_3d: try to killall -9 emerald01:49
shinobi_lag_3d that seems a little technical, but evidently...no...01:49
ubuntumm, the installer still looks ugly, did they write the gui in tk or so ;)01:49
_4strOathena: did you reboot ?01:49
athenano01:49
athenashould i?01:49
_4strOtry ;)01:49
athenahanks01:49
athenathanks01:49
athenaback soon01:49
_4strOyes01:49
_4strOi hope so !01:49
lag_3dshinobi_: no to "any other things" or to "so kubuntu has no feature parity"?01:50
shinobi_lag_3d but for sure that beryl by default is not the same01:50
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shinobi_lag_3d no to the parity01:50
Bluetoothshinobi_ no luck01:50
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Bluetooth*01:50
Bluetooth(01:50
ubuntulag_3d: I think ubuntu and kubuntu each have there own futures, they don't have to be equal do you think?01:50
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amigraveshinobi_: don't work. Is it supposed to install nvidia.ko module? When modprobing nvidia I've got FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory01:50
lag_3d_4strO: if i killall emerald what happens?01:50
corbaxsalut01:51
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_4strOlag_3d: it will start another emerald i suppose01:51
lag_3dubuntu, shinobi_: well, what about click'n'run?01:51
Bluetoothadept doesn't show it can connect to any of depos01:51
dhq_4strO: home/dhq/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so01:51
shinobi_amigrave hmm, it made me reinstall my kernel, then when i rebooted nad i had nvidia01:51
Bluetooth(01:51
shinobi_lag_3d click n' run?01:51
BluetoothI manually changed edgy to fiesty in depo list01:52
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lag_3dshinobi_: cnr was promissed for feisty01:52
shinobi_lag_3d what is that?01:52
lag_3dshinobi_: and i found no mention of in in kubuntu feisty01:52
shinobi_Bluetooth have you been in konsole and du sudo apt-get update01:53
_4strOdhq: go to the konqueror configuration, part "external moduls" or something like this01:53
Bluetooththat doesn't work on my PC01:53
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BluetoothI'm under MS ISA server01:53
lag_3dshinobi_: cnr is freespire's applications warehouse01:53
Bluetoothapt-get won't work, but adept does01:53
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shinobi_Bluetooth okay, that may be the start of some of the issues i guess.01:54
_4strOdhq: just click on the button who propose you to find new moduls01:54
nicolai_I believe cnr was delayed for 7.1001:54
amigraveshinobi_: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic ?01:54
ubuntuimho they may delac cnr for 3000.1001:54
shinobi_amigrave i think mine asked me to do it when i did the nvidia-glx01:54
shinobi_the dependency was a new kernel with nvidia inside01:54
shinobi_i think you need to enable the multiverse though01:55
Bluetoothhow to change proxy settings for apt-get?01:55
azizso how are the updates from edgy to feisty going? any major problems?01:55
shinobi_amigrave do oyu have full set of repos?01:55
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ubuntuBluetooth: maybe apt-get uses the proxy environment vars?01:55
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amigraveshinobi_: mhhh ! right ! I have not checked what the dist upgrade tool changed in my sources.list. Does it need universe and multiverse or an external source ?01:56
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ubuntuBluetooth:  something like export ftp_proxy="http://proxy.example.com:8080"01:56
Bluetoothwhere? some file as I remember01:56
shinobi_amigrave nvidia stuff is universe multiverse01:56
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shinobi_that's why it can't make the change because it can't get the restricted modules01:57
ubuntuBluetooth: note I'm not sure about this, just suspecting, you can type that in the cli before you type apt-get to test if it works01:57
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amigraveshinobi_: still have univers and multiverse in my source list so I guess it's not the problem01:57
Bluetoothok. in what file are the proxy settings for apt-get?01:58
shinobi_amigrave but sounds like it;s not updating the kernel properly01:58
lag_3dshinobi_, ubuntu: in what repo do i  find the nvidia driver?01:58
_4strOapt-cache madison nvidia01:59
shinobi_lag_3d i think it's in standard multiveres / universe01:59
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athenahey iven after the reboot i still cant play back video02:00
lag_3dshinobi_: and is it the latest driver?02:00
shinobi_i need a hand here, none of the fonts are regebnerating the cache properly02:00
ubuntuBluetooth: first type something like this: export http_proxy='http://proxy.site.domain:port@user:password' , then use apt02:00
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Bluetoothok, 'll try02:00
shinobi_lag_3d no you ned to follow special instructions for the nvidia latest, you can for example download and build from nvidia site02:00
athenait says i dont have a decoder installed to handle this file02:01
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athena_4strO can you help me again please???02:01
Bluetoothin what file is source list?02:01
ubuntuBluetooth: /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
_4strOathena:02:02
Bluetoothok02:02
_4strOwich file ?02:02
_4strOwitch file ?02:02
athenaavi02:02
amigraveshinobi_: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic didn't helped02:02
athenahaven't tried mp3 yet02:02
_4strOathena: try ;)02:02
_4strOi think i couldn't read it reight ?02:02
_4strOreight*02:03
_4strOright*02:03
_4strOf*$$ fingers02:03
ubuntuleft?02:03
mykyall: please help me have anyone ati x200?02:03
_4strOmyky: i have an X60002:04
athenaAn Error Occured02:04
Bluetoothmyky there was nice HowTo on ubuntuforums.org02:04
Bluetoothtry google02:04
athenaYou do no have a decoder nstalled to handle this file02:04
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_4strOathena: ok :/02:04
shinobi_amigrave thre is a instruction on ubuntu forums that works for latest nvidia driver02:05
=== _4strO try to remember what have he done for mp3s worfink on his bro's laptop
shinobi_amigrave though it should work of the repos02:05
mykyBluetooth:  you known i try googling , i find more manual but my fglrx dont work02:05
athena_4strO what do you mean by :/02:06
shinobi_look nice fonts ubuntu japanese02:06
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shinobi_looks nice japanese ubuntu02:06
jamesx.x02:06
_4strOathena: it's just a smile02:07
amigraveshinobi_: do you have an idea about the package where lies the nvidia kernel module ? I tried dpkg --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-generic whithout success. I think all I need is install the package with the nvidia kernel module but don't know which package it is02:07
_4strOlike :) but :/02:07
_4strOnot so happy face02:07
athenaoh ok02:07
shinobi_nvidia-glx02:07
athenadoes not play mp3 either  :(02:07
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_4strOathena: I think you have all needed to read them02:08
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myky_4strO: are you go fglrx in your ati?02:08
_4strOathena: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg02:09
james_4strO: is there one of those for JRE?02:09
_4strOjames:  ?02:09
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amigraveshinobi_: in the nvidia-glx deb I can find the Xorg nvidia driver, but not the nvidia kernel driver (nvidia.ko)02:10
_4strOmyky: whart ?02:10
jamesNothing. I just installed Java, yet when I type in Limewire it says I don't have the latest version02:10
athenaok i'll try that now02:10
athenaroot@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install ffmpeg02:10
athenaReading package lists... Done02:10
athenaBuilding dependency tree... Done02:10
athenaPackage ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:10
athenaThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:10
athenais only available from another source02:10
athenaE: Package ffmpeg has no installation candidate02:10
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BluetoothZdravstvuyte Jim!02:11
BluetoothYa kupil nedavno igru Pocket Heroes. Vse soobsheniya kotorye prixodyat ko mne ot vas ya poluchayu v nechitabelnom vide, navernoe izza perekodirovok. Ne mogli by vy v budushem prislylat pisma na english ili translite.02:11
BluetoothSpasibo02:11
BluetoothS uvazheniem,02:11
BluetoothAziz Khakulov02:11
BluetoothSnogeb?ksvej 25, 1, v. 2402:11
Bluetooth8210 ?rhus V, Denmark02:11
BluetoothTel.: +45 8250633902:11
BluetoothMobile: +45 2829515002:11
Bluetoothsorry02:11
Bluetoothno luck guys02:11
Bluetoothcan't upgrade02:11
bentob0xanybody knows how to add stuff in your right-click menu?02:11
shinobi_amigrave i know why02:11
Bluetoothapt-get connects, but says no updates02:11
brzeszczot_4str0: i try "dpkg --configure -a" and nothig return - empty line02:11
shinobi_amigrave linux modules restricted02:11
mykyall: please help me have anyone ati x200?02:11
athenaanything else you can suggest?02:11
jamesReinstall Ubuntu xP02:12
shinobi_amigrave linux-restricted-modules-....kernel#...generic02:12
Bluetoothyeah, best way02:12
shinobi_amigrave that needs to be installed02:12
brzeszczotjames: it was sugest for me ?02:12
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jamesAnyone really02:12
jamesIt solves most problems02:12
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_4strOjames: you need the 1.5 JRE i think and you have the 1.4 by defaut02:13
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jamesI installed 1.602:13
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Black_Catis there anything similar to DOS/Win32 .bat files?02:14
shinobi_amigrave found it?02:14
james.com files?02:14
_4strOjames: yes 1.6 (was my mistake)02:14
jamesWhat about it?02:14
BluetoothBlack_Cat, shell scripting02:15
james_4strO: What about 1.6? I Installed it...02:15
Black_CatBluetooth, any standard file extension?02:15
Bluetoothno02:15
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Black_Catokay...02:15
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Bluetoothjust need to start with #!/bin/bash02:16
_4strOathena: james yes, but i think it dont execut the 1.6 by default02:16
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Bluetoothtry google02:16
dettoaltrimenti_how can you check what version of ubuntu you're running, on the command line/02:16
james_4strO: How do I fix that one up02:16
_4strOdettoaltrimenti_: lsb_release -a02:16
Bluetoothshinobi I got GPG error02:16
snikkeri'm tring to umount my /boot partion with no success: device busy. how can i workaround this?02:16
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Bluetoothsays no pub key02:16
athenai dont understand02:16
shinobi__4strO failed to write cache on font cache02:17
_4strOshinobi ??02:17
shinobi_Bluetooth add gpg key?02:17
Bluetoothhow?02:17
Bluetoothsays signatures couldn't be verified because there is no pub key02:18
_4strOathena: sudo apt-get install xmms02:18
shinobi_Bluetooth yes normal02:18
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_4strOathena: and try to open an mp3 with xmms player02:18
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shinobi_864ijing02:18
athenaok02:18
Bluetoothso how to add a pub key?02:19
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Bluetoothwhy is it so hard to upgrade???02:19
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Bluetoothin ubuntu it's just so easy02:19
Bluetooth*02:19
Bluetooth(02:19
shinobi_# gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -02:19
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shinobi_Bluetooth those two lines, replace KEY with the key02:19
yetimy kubuntu refuses to upgrade to feisty :/ it says i should free at least 6.5M of space on /boot, but theres 32M free on boot, why on earth does it need 40M of space? do i need to repartition?02:19
_4strOjames: two options02:20
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shinobi_Bluetooth starting at #02:20
_4strOjames: change the command executed by the limewire icon02:20
Bluetoothok02:20
jamesoh I type in limewire in cli02:20
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athenawill not play02:21
Cem_UNALplease help i can't give direct renderin support my screen card ( TNT2 )02:21
_4strOathena: rhooooo !02:21
amigraveshinobi_: already reinstalled restricted modules but using package linux-restricted-modules-generic02:21
Bluetoothwhat sould be the key?02:21
Bluetoothanything?02:21
amigraveshinobi_: currently trying nvidia-glx-new and legacy02:21
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shinobi_Bluetooth no. it is whatever it is for that repository, you will have to look it up depending on the repository02:22
boubbinhow to install nvidia-legacy drivers in feisty ?02:22
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james_4strO:  what was my second option02:22
shinobi_amigrave those should not be it02:22
_4strOjames: go where the JRE1.6 is02:22
Bluetoothhow?02:22
Bluetoothwhere?02:22
Cem_UNALboubbin: i installed bu it does not work :(02:22
amigraveshinobi_: I have the API mismatch problem02:22
shinobi_amigrave. there is one of those linux restricted modules for your kernel number, you need that one02:22
_4strOthen go to /bin02:23
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athenamps are working xmms02:23
shinobi_Bluetooth which is the missing key02:23
boubbinCem_UNAL: so, we have to wait until someone fixes it ?02:23
_4strOjames: and then try ./java yourlimewirebinary02:23
_4strOathena: you have mp3's working with wmms ?02:24
shinobi_amigrave there were instructions on that in ubuntu forum if you have api mismatch02:24
Bluetoothhow do I know the fu&*g missing key??????02:24
athenayes02:24
_4strOhaaa !:)02:24
athenanow we just need to sort out the avi please02:24
shinobi_Bluetooth when you do your update, it tells you what failed02:24
amigraveshinobi_: I searched for those threads but I mainly found empty threads02:24
vbgunzmy upgrade to Feisty from Edgy has gone horribly broken :( Is there any reports and documentation I can go over?02:24
james_4strO: where might the JRE be02:24
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shinobi_amigrave there one main one how to install nvidia on feisty02:24
_4strOjames: where you install it02:24
Bluetoothit gave me something like thus AASDGQYFAR125317202:24
Bluetoothis that it?02:25
shinobi_Bluetooth and before that? the url?02:25
jamesit was a bin, so I changed permissions and ran it in cli02:25
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MidMarkso anyone can help me try to show back reboot and halt to my kubuntu?02:25
james_4strO:  it was a bin, so I changed permissions and ran it in cli02:25
MidMarkit was feisty upgrade that let me only end session02:25
boubbinCem_UNAL: ?02:26
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Bluetoothshinobi can I send u output of apt-get?02:26
_4strOjames: locate jre1.6.0 | grep bin02:26
Bluetoothit's mess I can't find needed string02:26
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amigraveshinobi_: installing nvidia-glx-new did work for me !02:26
shinobi_uamigrave great!02:26
fatimahhi02:26
amigraveshinobi_: thanks for you help !!!02:26
shinobi_amigrave sure happy it works02:27
Daisuke_Idoare the repos finally running at a halfway respectable speed?02:27
athena_4stro any other thoughts02:27
fatimahmay i ask something related with kubuntu ?02:27
vbgunzdamn, upgrading to Feisty just broke my system :( I cannot upgrade it all :(02:27
shinobi_Bluetooth use the pastebin i guess02:27
brzeszczot_4str0: so what i must to do?02:27
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brzeszczot_4str0: help02:27
_4strObrzeszczot:  :p02:27
fatimahi just want asking about upgrading too02:27
_4strOathena: just thinking about it02:27
james_4strO: Strange, the folder is on my desktop02:27
Cem_UNALboubbin: i asked it before u too; and nobody answered me?02:27
athenaok02:27
_4strOjames: normal02:28
fatimahi got error msg unmet dependecies......02:28
boubbinok02:28
james_4strO:  What did you want me to do with it?02:28
brzeszczot_4str0: what is funny? my apt-get ? :)02:28
fatimahexactly what's going on ?02:28
_4strOjames: you download it with firefox and then it put in on your desktop02:28
przemek_elo02:28
james_4strO:  I've already done that.02:28
brzeszczot_4str0: tell me some advice02:29
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_4strOjames: try this : go to the bin dir in your java1.6 installation02:29
jamesIm there02:29
shinobi_anyone know if something is strange with the fonts in feisty?02:30
james_4strO:  I'm there02:30
_4strOjames: and then : ./java yourLimewireBin02:30
jamesOkay02:30
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Grahamshinobi_: No.02:30
brzeszczotjames: so how to reinstal ubuntu?02:30
jamesPut the disk in?02:30
Bluetoothshinobi pastebin.ca/44972702:30
shinobi_Graham faled to write cache02:30
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Cem_UNAL:D02:31
Grahamshinobi_: What are we talking about here?02:31
shinobi_Bluetooth can i get that link again?02:31
shinobi_Graham font cache02:31
james_4strO: Type that exactly?02:31
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brzeszczotjames: that was funny - but what next - install like usual?02:31
Bluetoothshinobi http://pastebin.ca/44972702:31
Grahamshinobi_: In general? In a particular application?02:31
jamesYes. Install it on the partition you used to install it in the first place02:31
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Bluetoothline 54 I guess02:32
shinobi_Bluetooth DD4D508802:32
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_4strObrzeszczot: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/*02:32
shinobi_Bluetooth that is the KEY element02:32
_4strObrzeszczot: dont !02:32
shawn34anyone know why ktorrent stops seeding all togeather when a download finishes?02:32
Bluetoothjust that?02:32
shinobi_Graham not exactly, i install fonts, and my font cache will not write02:32
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shinobi_Bluetooth yes02:33
_4strObrzeszczot: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/02:33
_4strObrzeszczot: and then : sudo apt-get update02:33
james_4strO: What is LimewireBin02:33
pucko-what is the problem with doing a regular dist-upgrade from cmd line instead of using adept-manager or whatever it is that's recommended?02:33
Grahamshinobi_: Too bad. Have you noticed Fiesty being alot quicker?02:33
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brzeszczot_4str0: rm cache i tried - doesn't work02:33
MidMarkok "resolved": all people that has kubuntu and gdm they cannot see other buttons than "end session"02:34
_4strOjames: in fact i don't now but it will be in /usr/bin or /bin02:34
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MidMarkwith kdm all is ok :(02:34
_4strOit should be*02:34
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_4strOMidMark: ok thx for reply ;)02:34
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MidMark_4strO: yes now I search if the bug is just filed02:35
shinobi_Graham not particularly, especially with this font issue seems to lock everything up02:35
_4strOjames: look at the propriety of your limewire icon ;)02:35
Bluetoothshinobi, do u know whether kubuntu has now a normal keyboard layout switching applet02:35
Bluetoothor widget02:36
james_4strO: so it would be ./java /usr/bin/limewire02:36
shinobi_Bluetooth sure02:36
_4strOjames: yes02:36
vbgunzanybody know how to fix a broken upgrade to Feisty from Edgy?02:36
shinobi_Bluetooth if it's just for type of keyboard, like us or jp or so02:36
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shinobi_Bluetooth then it is a systray icon02:36
BluetoothI have KDE Keyboard tool and Keyboard swith but they suck02:36
james_4strO: Nothing happened...02:36
BluetoothI can switch once towards but can't backwards02:37
_4strObrzeszczot: you already remove the pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin files in /var/cache/apt/ ?02:37
_4strOjames: no message ?02:37
shinobi_Bluetooth kcontrol - regional and accessibility - country.region and language02:37
james_4strO: Nope. Nothing.02:37
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shinobi_Bluetooth and keyboard layout02:38
_4strOjames: are you sure about /usr/bin/limewire ?02:38
brzeszczot_4str0: yes - its emty02:38
jamesYes02:38
jamesCertain02:38
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shinobi_Bluetooth actaully keyboard layout, enble keyborad layouts, select the relevant layouts you want02:38
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james_4strO: I see the icon myself02:38
_4strOjames: ok02:38
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mluHi there - Anyone who has a upgraded to Feisty and now has problems enabling dma on your harddirive?02:39
brzeszczot_4str0: now apt-get update return: "E: Brakuje katalogu archiww /var/cache/apt/archives/partial"02:39
BluetoothI think will do it after upgrade02:39
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Bluetoothdoesn't work now02:39
Bluetoothon 6.10 at least02:39
shinobi_Bluetooth those other apps may be influenceing it, best to start clean02:39
_4strObrzeszczot: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update02:40
vbgunzupgrade to Feisty has broken Edgys upgrade ability, whats up?02:40
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Bluetoothshinobi didn't work at start as well02:41
BluetoothI have EN_US and RU_RU02:42
brzeszczot_4str0: clean doesn't help02:42
BluetoothI can switch from EN to RU, but can't from RU to EN02:42
BluetoothI mean using keyboard shortcut02:42
_4strObrzeszczot: just sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/ && sudo apt-get update02:43
BluetoothI can click on systray icon02:43
_4strOjames: i have a solution but i'm not about result :p02:43
shinobi_Bluetooth mmm...sounds like it could be one of the specific setting that does that, some of them conflict, like shift-space an so on02:43
Daisuke_Idofriggin no workie mouse wheel02:43
Bluetoothshinobi http://pastebin.ca/44974302:44
Bluetoothstill can't update02:44
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shawn34Can I install directly from the live cd without loading the actual desktop up?02:44
Daisuke_Idoshawn34: for that you want the alternate cd02:44
shawn34crap, no other way?02:44
shinobi_Bluetooth did you add the GPG key???02:44
boubbinhow to enable repos ins kubuntu fesity ?02:44
Daisuke_Idoit allows direct install, the live cd requires the live environment02:44
shinobi_Bluetooth using # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -02:44
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shawn34Daisuke_Ido, everytime i put the cd in and hit enter on the first option it says 'Loading' in the top right and just sits there02:45
Daisuke_Idoooh02:45
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Bluetoothyes02:45
Daisuke_Idoi would say try the alt. cd02:45
shawn34Daisuke_Ido, the only cd i can get to load up and install is an old dapper beta02:45
Bluetoothshinobi http://pastebin.ca/44974402:45
Bluetoothi did both02:45
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Daisuke_Idosounds like your drive might be a little evil02:46
shinobi_Bluetooth did it say ok ?02:46
ma3xcan somebody paste their xorg.conf on pastebin.ca ?02:46
Daisuke_Idoi have to run for now though, class02:46
Bluetoothit said nothing02:46
_4strOBluetooth: why have you still some eddy stuff in your repo ?02:46
shinobi_Bluetooth you have mispelled feisty as fiesty02:46
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Bluetoothshit02:46
Bluetoothreally?02:46
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boubbinhow to enable repos in kubuntu feisty ?02:46
shinobi_Bluetooth and as _4strO says, edgy not okay02:47
_4strOboubbin: in adept02:47
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shinobi_Bluetooth and it should say that it is getting  the key nad then say okay when you add it02:47
boubbini dont see any repos there...02:47
Bluetooth_4strO trying to  uprgade02:47
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_4strOboubbin: or i the /etc/apt/sources.list02:47
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boubbinok02:47
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Bluetoothshinobi it says nothing, totally quiet02:48
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shinobi_Bluetooth then it isn't adding the key for some reason02:48
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Bluetoothaaaaaa it's all because of misspell02:49
Bluetooth:)02:49
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Bluetoothit found repos now02:49
_4strOBluetooth: for the GPG error, it isn't a pb, it's just an advertisement02:49
Section31Yay, upgrade to Kububtu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn went successfully!02:50
_4strObut he will wheck the repo02:50
_4strOcheck*02:50
Section31A PC02:50
shinobi__4strO failed to write cache on font install/unistall with apt-get02:50
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_4strOathena: my bro will come soon :) i will ask him to refresh my memory :)02:50
mockerDoes Kubuntu include a desktop search?02:50
_4strOshinobi ?02:51
athenaok cool02:51
_4strOafter doing what ?02:51
shinobi__4strO does that mean anything to you? i just did apt-get install ipafont02:51
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_4strOathena: but i still think everything just ggod for you, just a config pb02:51
shinobi__4strO it wouldn't write the cache, and now it won't install either02:51
_4strOshinobiweird02:52
_4strOshinobi:weird02:52
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shinobi__4strO it's my second attempt at feisty install i wrote over the last one because of this issue02:52
shinobi__4strO makes slow the whole thing down02:53
shawn34Daisuke_Ido, I can't get any of the downloads to start for xubuntu02:53
Daisuke_Idotorrent :)02:53
lag_3dhey, where is the "show windows from all desktops" option in kcontrol / panel / taskbar?02:53
shawn34i know02:53
Daisuke_Idoaaaand i'm off02:53
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shawn34Daisuke_Ido, torrent file wont download02:53
athenaok thanks heaps will wait patiently..02:53
shinobi_ feisty02:54
Daisuke_Idolag_3d: right click taskbar, configure panel > taskbar02:54
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lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: yes, that's the usual location, but are you sure you see that in the feisty kde?02:56
_4strOshinobi: i dont have this package02:56
boubbinhow to check what version of kubuntu im using atm ?02:56
_4strOboubbin: lsb_release -a02:57
boubbinthx02:57
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lag_3dboubbin: in a console, try "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"02:58
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Daisuke_Idolag_3d: i'm absolutely positive, i'm using it02:58
_4strOshinobi: so where does the ipafont package come from ?02:59
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Daisuke_Idoand now i have to run before i'm late for class.  this late in the semester i don't particularly care, but hey, final review :D02:59
shinobi__4strO regular repos i guess, i have it on this machine that is under edgy02:59
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_4strOha ok :p i'm on feisty,03:00
shinobi__4strO it's for east asian language display03:00
shinobi__4strO i anm having this problem on feisty03:00
lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: that is very very very strange03:00
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lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: i just don't find that particular option -- everything ELSE is there, except for this particular option+checkbox03:01
shinobi__4strO works under edgy, and weird issue with all fonts under feisty seems like a problem03:01
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_4strOshinobi : apt-cache search ipafont >> nothing for me03:02
Daisuke_Idolag_3d: are you using beryl?03:02
lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: yes03:03
lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: don't say this is the reason! :))03:03
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chandraLooking to upgrade to FF from EE.  I run adept and it gets to the point that it says to click Finish to close adept and begin.  I click on Finish and nothing happens after that point.03:03
Daisuke_Idolag_3d: there's the problem, beryl drops you to one virtual desktop03:03
lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: anyway, it's cool that you thought of that03:03
Daisuke_Idoso the option doesn't show03:04
Daisuke_Idoberyl actually uses viewports rather than desktops and kde's not too swift with that yet :\03:04
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Daisuke_Idosorry03:04
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Cem_UNALboubbin: ping03:04
lag_3dDaisuke_Ido: cool that i know that (anyway, it should still show the option)03:05
shinobi__4strO its only in japanese repo, but not relevant. this is for all and any fonts.03:05
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_4strOshinobi_: i have installed ms font for exemple, without any pb03:06
=== Cem_UNAL boubbin: if u are here i FIXED the bug for legacy driver :)
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shinobi__4strO yeah strange as https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/fontconfig/+bug/10455303:08
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boubbinCem_UNAL: ?03:08
_4strOshinobi_: perhaps try apt-get installl ... without X server on03:08
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shinobi__4strO okay03:09
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Cem_UNALboubbin: do u want to install them ?03:09
shinobi_Jucato ... font cache write error on feisty ... any thoughts03:09
boubbinyeah03:09
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Cem_UNALone min.03:10
_4strOJucato: are you there ?03:10
Jucatoshinobi_: eh?03:10
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Jucatosorry no idea03:10
boubbinCem_UNAL: how did you do that ?03:10
Jucato_4strO: nope. I'm just a figment of someone's perverted imagination :/03:10
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kingcobrahello03:10
_4strOloool Jucato03:10
Cem_UNALboubbin: coming soon :)03:10
boubbinok03:10
kingcobracan somebody please tell me is there a gui method of installing kde on ubuntu03:11
_4strOJucato: can you help athena to play avi files03:11
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_4strOJucato: she as all packages required03:11
Jucatokingcobra: install the package kubuntu-desktop using Synaptic03:11
_4strO(i think)03:11
chandraLooking to upgrade to FF from EE.  I run adept and it gets to the point that it says to click Finish to close adept and begin.  I click on Finish and nothing happens after that point.03:11
_4strObut still not workin03:11
_4strOJucato: mp3 works fine in xmms03:12
Jucatochandra: have you restarted Adept?03:12
chandrayes03:12
chandrashould I see something diff after restarting it?03:12
Jucato_4strO: xmms uses it's own codecs. xine has different stuff.03:12
_4strOJucato: xmms use alsa by default03:12
Jucatochandra: after restarting Adept, click on Fetch Updates again, then you'll be informed that there's a new version available. that happened?03:13
_4strOjucato, it's the second time i install all packages needed and then nothing03:13
Jucato_4strO: talking about codecs and engines. alsa isn't a multimedia engine03:13
chandrajucato: yes...I got to that point.  It finally said to click on Finish to close Adept.  I did that and Adept remained open and nothing else happened.03:13
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kingcobraJucato, got disconnected there03:13
Jucatochandra: hm... try closing Adept?03:14
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chandrajucato:  yes...I've repeated this whole process a couple of times03:14
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_4strOJucato: ok and xine is a multimedia engine too isnt it ?03:14
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kingcobraalso does anybody know that command unamer for checking kernel version03:14
Jucato_4strO: yes. amarok and kaffeine use xine03:14
Jucatokingcobra: uname -r03:14
_4strOkingcobra: uname -a03:14
Cem_UNALboubbin: did u do that --> sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy-kernel-source && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings03:15
_4strO:p03:15
Jucatochandra: btw, are you using KDE 3.5.6 on Edgy?03:15
kingcobraor even better a way to check it with gui?03:15
boubbinim unable to raise my screens refresh rate like i want, how to fix ?03:15
boubbinCem_UNAL: no i didnt03:15
Cem_UNALboubbin: this is first ^03:15
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chandrajucato: yes, 3.5.603:15
boubbini havent installed anything yet03:15
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boubbinyeah, i have to do this later, im on a hurry atm.03:15
Cem_UNALboubbin: give this comment03:15
_4strOboubbin: by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:15
JuhazOnehmmh. i've been trying to get 1600x1200 resolution in my new feisty installation but i'm not able to...03:16
boubbinCem_UNAL: can you please send all to priv ?03:16
boubbin_4strO: ok03:16
kingcobraJucato, do you know what section it is in synaptic03:16
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Jucatochandra: did you add the special repo for 3.5.6? It's mentioned in the release notes for Feisty03:16
_4strOathena: bad news03:16
boubbinJuhazOne: did you set your monitor to the correct one ?03:16
JuhazOneyup03:16
boubbinJuhazOne: i have the same problem atm.03:16
chandrajucato: I'll have to check.03:16
Cem_UNALboubbin: give me ur e-mail ?03:16
_4strOathena: my bro didn(t do anything more i had done03:16
JuhazOnei tried replacing the autogenerated xorg.conf with the one from my old dapper installation but i got complaints about missing driver "nvidia"03:16
Jucatokingcobra: um linux-image most probably... but it will only show you what kernels are installed, not what you are currently using03:16
kingcobra_4strO, do you know is there a way to check version with gui03:16
_4strOkingcobra: nop03:16
JuhazOneso i installed linux-restricted-drivers-<kernel> that usually has helped... but this time it didn't03:17
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_4strOkingcobra: in adept you can by search kernel ;)03:17
boubbinJuhazOne: i think its "nv" in feisty03:17
JuhazOneand now the monitor & display section in kde system settings won't even show up :(03:17
Jucato_4strO: that will only show what kernels are installed, not the kernel being used at the time03:17
_4strOkingcobra: but you will have every kernel installed on your computer03:17
JuhazOneboubbin: i'm not sure either, but i'm under the impression that nv is the free driver and nvidia the proprietary one03:17
_4strOJucato: right ;)03:18
kingcobraJucato, i meant which section is kubuntu desktop package in03:18
Jucatokingcobra: it's in main03:18
Jucatoso that should be available/visible immediately03:18
francescahi, i'm trying to download kubuntu feisty (dvd) torrent but the tracker seems to be down... does anyone have the same problem?03:19
chandrajucato: nope...I hadn't.  Just did and am rerunning adept again.03:19
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kingcobraJucato, in synaptic theres base system communication cross platform ... and each of them have a multiverse universe etc section03:20
chandrajucato: Same behavior as before.  It tells me there's an update, it downloads the updater, says to click Finish...then nothing else happens03:20
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JuhazOnehmh. any ideas how to get 1600x1200?03:20
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mackymanHello ppl!03:21
mackymanHow can I check wich dev my soundcard have?03:21
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eumelkubuntu runs fine :)03:21
eumelthx03:22
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zblach!truecrypt03:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:23
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icecruncheranybody know how to upgrade to feisty using the alternate cd?03:26
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kingcobraJucato, kubuntu desktop is in meta packages03:28
kingcobrain synaptic03:28
Jucatoah ok03:28
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mathildeSalut03:29
icecruncherhi03:29
eumelcya03:30
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canenhello all03:31
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icecruncherhello03:32
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canentrying to upgrade to fiesty here but after adept downloads the upgrade tool and says "Click finish to close adept manager and start the upgrade tool", I click finish but nothing happens03:33
canenany pointers?03:33
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athena_4stro how do i install real player on ubuntu?03:36
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athenaCan anyone assist in installing real player on ubuntu not is synaptic package manager03:43
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JuhazOnegreat, i had a locale problem but i got it fixed \o/03:43
canenathena: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu03:43
Jucato!realplayer03:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:43
JuhazOnenow if i only got the full resolution that this monitor supports... :/03:43
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canenanyone having problems with the upgrade tool or lack thereof?03:43
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reagleBRKLNhave others noted that feisty mounts external harddrives sync? I wonder how to change that.03:43
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ForzaPalermohey guys, how do i update to feisty fawn in adept....03:48
ForzaPalermoi get the message to upgrade... but when i click finish... nothing happens03:49
shinobi_Jucato _4strO woohoo, it was a question of xargs with those fonts, what a nightmare03:49
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replmanHi! I always read, that it is so simple to install things with ubuntu (berly, mp3, ...) with "Applications -> Add/Remove -> ... -> Ubuntu restricted extras". Didn't they also put those things in kubuntu?03:50
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ForzaPalermoanyone?03:52
admin___i03:52
MidMarkhow can I change clock font?03:53
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MidMarkForzaPalermo: retry03:54
ForzaPalermoi did03:54
ForzaPalermomany times03:54
ForzaPalermoMidMark, it doesnt exit and upgrade period03:54
MidMarkdo you kave lde 3.5.6?03:54
Shadow-hey . i try to download the dvd iso from a torrent under: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/ , which is as a link the kubuntu homepage, but the home page isnt available. any other torrent , or http link with the final dvd realase ?03:54
ForzaPalermoMidMark, on either one of my kubuntu machines03:54
ForzaPalermoMidMark, kde 3.5.6 yes03:54
MidMarkForzaPalermo: have you installed first fake 3.5.6?03:54
ForzaPalermoMidMark, i dont know03:55
MidMark!feisty03:55
ubotuFEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/03:55
MidMarksorry03:55
MidMark!upgrade03:55
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:55
MidMarkForzaPalermo: wait03:55
ForzaPalermoMidMark, ok03:55
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tictactatichey, mackyman did you succeed in upgrading?03:56
MidMarkForzaPalermo: oh yes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading see "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)"03:56
MidMarkthere is an extra passage before upgrading to Feisty for people that has kde 3.5.603:56
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MidMarkhow can I change clock font? Default one is very bad03:59
Shadow-MidMark,  what u gave me in the links are cd and not dvd03:59
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shinobi_MidMark right click it03:59
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JucatoMidMark: right-click -> Configure Clock03:59
abattoirMidMark: rt. click->Configure Clock03:59
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abattoirbeat ya... atleast on my screen ;)03:59
MidMarkJucato: yes but there is no font to choose03:59
MidMarkShadow-: what?04:00
Shadow-isnt there any dvd available like it was with 6.10 . just cd releases on feisty ?04:00
JucatoMidMark: what type of clock is being used?04:00
Shadow-MidMark,  i said that there is no dvd iso included in the list , but just cd to download04:00
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Shadow-i want a dvd iso release04:00
MidMarkdigital one, no date only clock04:00
MidMarkShadow-: I was answering to ForzaPalermo04:01
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shinobi_MidMark cahnge to plain04:01
JucatoMidMark: ah then it's not using a font at all for the time. it's a digital type04:01
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ForzaPalermoMidMark, i see it04:01
Shadow-so . no link for download ? :)04:01
ForzaPalermoits aobut kde 3.5.704:01
ForzaPalermo3.5.604:01
abattoirMidMark: you could change it to a plain clock, and then choose another digital font(like i do)04:01
ForzaPalermoForzaPalermo, i added it to my repo and am installing that04:01
abattoirForzaPalermo: speaking to yourself? :P04:01
ForzaPalermoMidMark, lol yes04:02
abattoir*talking to, rather04:02
ForzaPalermoMidMark, is that what you were talking about?04:02
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MidMarkForzaPalermo: kde 3.5.6 really 3.5.5 is a fake 3.5.6 to let you back to kde 3.5.5 and upgrade after to Feisty04:02
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ForzaPalermoMidMark, ok hope this works04:03
ForzaPalermoMidMark, do i need to restart after it installs04:03
MidMarkdon't know04:03
MidMarkI did04:03
MidMarkabattoir: oh yes was plain in my Edgy thanx04:03
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ForzaPalermoMidMark, ok well im ognnna restart04:06
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ForzaPalermooops04:06
ForzaPalermono need04:06
ForzaPalermoworking now without it04:06
ForzaPalermothanks midmark!04:06
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BluesKajstill trying to figure out how to make X shutdown when I logout . Doing the 'sudo shutdown -h now' is ok , but the fact that logout isn't working properly, bugs me04:11
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marcreichelthiho04:11
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marcreicheltan hour ago, I started the upgrade from Kubuntu 6.10 to 7.0404:11
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marcreicheltbut I had to close the update program again because I had to go to another room04:12
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JucatoBluesKaj: how is logout not working properly?04:12
marcreicheltand now I can't start adept_updater anymore (apt locked)04:12
marcreicheltwhat should I do?04:12
Jucato!adeptfix04:12
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:12
osbertoHi04:12
osbertospeak spanish_04:13
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Jucato!es | osberto04:13
ubotuosberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:13
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BluesKajJucato, X keeps cycling off then on withthe kubuntu logo and the progress bar04:14
marcreichelthmm04:14
pnutbttrdid anyone else attempt to install the new kubuntu this morning04:14
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JucatoBluesKaj: oh...04:14
marcreicheltubotu: apache2 and libc6-i686 are damaged04:15
Jucatomarcreichelt: ubotu's a bot :)04:15
marcreicheltoh04:15
marcreicheltyes04:15
marcreicheltI see now ;)04:15
shinobibrave new world04:16
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pnutbttrim just wondering if anyone knows the status of the adept servers , whether they may speed up at some point04:17
marcreicheltanyway - the dependencies seem to be crashed04:17
marcreicheltapache2 and libc6-68604:17
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marcreicheltif I run adept-updater on it, what will it do?04:18
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ForzaPalermoi cant upgrade :(04:18
ForzaPalermoi get this error Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found04:18
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marcreichelthow can I start the dist-upgrader?04:19
marcreicheltmanually?04:19
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Linux_GaloreForzaPalermo: right now many servers are getting hammered, I cant even download some source code to apply a patch because my local mirror is swamped04:21
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marcreicheltthe dist-upgrade program has started automatically as I updated my files the last time04:22
marcreicheltbut how can I start it by hand?04:22
marcreicheltright now it does not seem to start anymore...04:22
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BluesKaj marcreichelt, in the Konsole : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-update04:23
marcreicheltoh04:23
marcreicheltgreat04:23
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Jucatothat's not the dist-upgrade tool though04:23
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marcreicheltfor that one, adept_updater is better04:24
zblachhi. has anyone had any degree of success installing TrueCrypt in the feisty release?04:24
marcreicheltbut I'm searching for the GUI dist-upgrade program04:24
BluesKajJucato, what is the dist upgrade tool ?04:24
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Jucatomarcreichelt: run Adept Manager and click on Fetch Updates. it should trigger the dist-upgrade tool04:24
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marcreicheltJucato: that's the problem04:25
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JucatoBluesKaj: the new GUI tool that will automate upgrading to a new release04:25
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BluesKajiif his repos oare set to feisty shouldn't the Konsole cmnd work ?04:25
marcreicheltI closed the dist upgrade during download04:25
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JucatoBluesKaj: *if* they are set. yes. with the new dist-upgrade tool, it will automatically change the correct repositories and temporarily disable 3rd-party/unofficial repositories04:26
marcreicheltbut anyway - an upgrade to Feisty will not remove the files from my home directory04:26
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Jucatomarcreichelt: yes it won't04:26
marcreicheltin the worst case I have to backup the files manually and install Feisty by hand hen04:27
marcreicheltthen04:27
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piopwhy would you even take the risk of messing up your system of doing a 20 hour upgrade, that doesnt sounds like linux to me04:28
BluesKajIC Jucato, I wasn't aware of the 'New GUI Tool' . Where does that reside, within adept ?04:28
JucatoBluesKaj: it's tied to Adept, yes. but not really part of Adept afaik04:28
Jucatomarcreichelt: you can't run Adept Manager again?04:28
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lerneaen_hydrarandom question: have many people had issues with the 7.04 upgrade (from 6.10), or is it relatively safe (as safe as a dist-upgrade can be that is)04:28
marcreicheltyes04:28
Jucato!adeptfix | marcreichelt04:29
ubotumarcreichelt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:29
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piopi just cant let my computer be unusable for that long04:29
piopdowenloading at 22k04:30
marcreicheltlerneaen_hydra: if you don't have to cancel the upgrade, it should work04:30
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ingodonotshi guys04:30
marcreicheltJucato: the update with adept_updater does work now04:30
ingodonotsi can'y upgrade to feisty04:30
lerneaen_hydramarcreichelt: ah, ok04:30
marcreicheltthanks04:30
ingodonotsadept say to me that there is a new version04:31
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marcreicheltI'm excited if the upgrade works properly04:31
Jucatomarcreichelt: adept_updater or adept_manager?04:31
marcreicheltadept_updater04:31
Jucatoafaik, adept_updater won't launch the dist-upgrade tool04:31
piopme too, but as i said, even on dsl it said that it would take 20 hours04:31
ingodonotsi follow the instructions04:31
marcreicheltoh04:31
marcreicheltk ;)04:31
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marcreicheltright now it is updating all packages04:31
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PP188how do i see if is ubuntu or kubuntu? help me04:32
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ingodonotsthen adept say that i have to click on finish to lounche the upgrade tool04:32
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ingodonotsbut when i click on finish nothing happens04:32
ingodonotswhat can i do?04:32
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PP188how do i see if is ubuntu or kubuntu? help me04:33
Last_Heroman, Kubuntu is ACE. First distro I've ever tried that has flawlessly detected and worked with both my wireless card and my soundcard. I'm running on the LiveCD just now, but Kubuntu is makin' me consider a dual boot.  Just though you might like to hear :p04:33
shinobiPP188 does it show ubuntu while booting?04:33
ingodonotshelp please !04:33
kcolemango dual - i've got dual boot on this machine04:33
ingodonotsi'm so sad04:33
kcolemanreally easy to setup04:33
marcreicheltPP188: if you see a blue 'K' logo in the bottom left corner you should use kubuntu04:34
kcolemanmake sure you've got XP installed 1st b4 u go dual04:34
PP188shinobi: no, its kubuntu in booting04:34
kcolemanor download gpart and partition that drive04:34
Last_Herokcoleman, its only an 80gig drive though, so I'm not sure about the capacity, and yeah, XP is already installed04:34
PP188shinobi: no, its kubuntu in boot04:34
kcolemanlast - i've got a 60gb drive on this lappy04:35
kcoleman40gb for XP, 20 gb for Kubuntu04:35
Hc\\i got 30/30 O.o04:35
kcolemaninstall ntfs3g and u can access all ur files on ur XP partition04:35
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Hc\\but windows i got as fat3204:35
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dettoaltrimenti_is there a command line program to connect to wireless networks? I use wlassistant right now, the gui04:35
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Last_Herosweet, ntfs support?04:35
PP188shinobi: when run "lsb_release -a" in konsole... its show ubuntu.... is right?04:35
kcolemandetto - i was kwlan gui - best ive used so far04:36
dettoaltrimenti_thanks kcoleman04:36
kcolemanya last - i keep most of my media on my XP drive and i can access my music from it04:36
Last_HeroIf I did a duel boot I'd only be using XP for games and programs that need XP such as Visio04:36
kcolemanlast - of course04:36
BluesKajPP188, yes04:37
shinobiPP188 seems like kubuntu04:37
PP188BluesKaj: so i use ubuntu04:37
kcolemanyou can install wine and see if u can get those programs working within kubuntu, but it will take some configuration04:37
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Last_Herowhich would probably speed up my boot time if I removed all the crap that I've stuck into my XP install04:37
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PP188BluesKaj: *so i use ubuntu?04:37
sempaire04:37
lerneaen_hydraany simple way to check the version of KDE that's running?04:37
BluesKajno sorry, PP188 ...It doesn't ...I was wrong04:37
Last_Herowell, Oblivion is pretty taxing to my system as it is, so I don't think emulation is the way to go :p04:37
Jucatolerneaen_hydra: in any KDE app -> Help menu -> About KDE04:37
kcolemanlern - most likely ur running some version of KDE 3.5.X04:37
lerneaen_hydraoh, nm04:37
lerneaen_hydrayeah04:37
PP188BluesKaj: so.. how is it?04:38
lerneaen_hydrajsut found it, I didn't see it last time04:38
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BluesKajPP188, I'm using Kubuntu , and that cmnd only showed ubuntu for me as well04:38
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sempaibye..04:39
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PP188BluesKaj: right... why ?04:39
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PP188BluesKaj: how do i know what?04:39
lerneaen_hydrahmm, how do you start the graphical update program, it doesn't start when starting adept and all packages are updated04:40
BluesKajPP188, right click on the blue "K" if you have one in the bottom left ...that means you have KDE desktop , which is Kubuntu04:40
caneni am running the upgrade tool and it is telling me to free up some space on /boot04:40
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canenthis is the output of du -h * on boot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16567/04:40
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canenwhat is safe to remove? kernel being used is 2.6.17-11-38604:41
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canendon't want to go and mess anything up04:41
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pulaskihello04:42
PP188BluesKaj: but if i am using gnome? i know its wrong, but i'm begginer04:42
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ShiftyCanen, I would be careful about removing older kernels if you have compiled programs that use those older kernels.04:43
Shiftyif not, you can remove them.04:43
canenShifty:  none that i know of04:43
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BluesKajok PP188 , do you see a blue "K" in the bottom left corner of the desktop ?04:43
ShiftyThen you should be good to go.04:43
caneni am going to see if there is a clean way since grub will also need to be updated04:43
pulaskiapdept crashed on me last night and now my database is locked.  I have no adept, apt-get or aptitude processes yet kubuntu thinks I do and its database remains locked.  I would be grateful for any suggestions.04:43
PP188BluesKaj: no04:44
cheeseboyhow do i install SDL?04:45
PP188BluesKaj: is it kde, isnt it?04:45
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PP188BluesKaj: sorry.. *its kde, isnt it?04:45
Jucato!adeptfix | pulaski04:45
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ubotupulaski: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:45
kcolemanpulaski - sounds pretty dumb but have u tried turning ur pc off and back on again?04:45
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BluesKajKDE desktop is the K part of kubuntu , if you are running gnome its ubuntu04:46
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pulaskithank you ubotu04:46
pulaskiI'll try it04:47
cloakableO.o04:47
JuhazOnehm. what am i doing wrong when kdm displays the login screen properly in 1600x1200 resolution but won't let me use it after i've logged in?04:47
PP188BluesKaj: but in my boot its kubuntu04:47
cheeseboyhow do i install SDL?04:47
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BluesKajdid you right click on the K in the bottom left corner of the desktop/menu editor/about ...04:48
ShiftyIf anyone is thinking or has to install a virtual machine, I have had great success with InnoTek's VirtualBox04:48
cheeseboyhelp?04:48
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smartHey did some one try before to use utorrent on wine04:49
russ33hi04:49
Jucatocheeseboy: what do you need sdl for?04:49
russ33how do i upgrade to 7.04? is it just a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade?04:49
kcolemansmart: y not jsut use ktorrent?04:49
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russ33or do i have to download and install the whole CD?04:50
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PP188BluesKaj: have not K04:50
kcolemanruss: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading04:50
CapaHI am not sure whether or not I have 64 bit or 32 bit version (not sure which version was on the CD I installed from) --- can anyone here tell me how to find this out?04:50
russ33oh cool04:50
smartkcoleman, i dont think tht aktorrent is good ...is it ?04:50
Jucatoruss33: near the bottom of the Release Announcement page, there are instructions to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty04:50
smartthat*04:50
russ33thanks04:50
cheeseboyJucato sdlmess (nes emulator)04:50
russ33i really should pay more attention04:50
russ33lol04:51
Jucatocheeseboy: trying to compile it?04:51
cheeseboyyes04:51
cheeseboybut sdl is a requirement04:51
kcolemansmart: it works just fine for me - u can set ur ports to forward and whatnot04:51
Jucatocheeseboy: install libsdl-dev04:52
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smartkcoleman, my bad luck i must to set it manualy04:52
kcolemanits not like a torrent downloader has much configs to mess with anyway04:52
kcolemanjust set ur port and forward it on ur router04:52
smartkcoleman, i am not the router any way i will try04:53
kcolemansmart: "ur not the router?" i'm not sure what ur saying?04:53
canenafter cleaning up boot this thing is still asking for 686k, just not my day04:54
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kcolemancanen04:55
kcolemanjust delete one song04:55
kcolemanhaha04:55
canenit asking for space on boot04:55
kcolemano shit - thats different04:55
CapaHI need to know if I am running Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit -- how can I find this out?04:55
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smartkcoleman, Never mind04:55
russ33is there a command i can type on the command line to see what version of kubuntu im currently running? im not sure if this has been upgraded to 7.04 already04:55
kcolemancapaH - is ur processor 32 or 6404:55
kcolemanmost liekly ur 3204:55
cloakableCapaH: uname -r :)04:55
CapaHMy proc is 6404:55
CapaHuname -r just says 2.6.20-15-generic04:56
cloakableThen you're probably 64bit04:56
cloakableAhh04:56
shinobiCapaHso is mine but i run 32 bit distro04:56
CapaHthe thing is, the cd I installed from I dont think was 64 bit04:56
kcoleman32 will still run on a 64platform04:56
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canenCapaH: does lsb_release -a help?04:57
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russ33anyone know?04:57
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busfahrerExcuse me, is it possible to boot another distro that you already have installed, then mount the Kubuntu ISO, and run the installer script to install Kubuntu into another partition on that computer?04:57
russ33i just want to find out what version of kubuntu ive got here04:57
canenruss33: see above lsb_release04:58
Jucatoruss33: lsb_release -a04:58
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WillLuongoHello, can anyone tell me what I need to do to be able to rip CD's with KAudioCreator?04:58
russ33oh right04:58
russ33lol04:58
russ33thanks04:58
smartkcoleman, i can complete downloads wich downloaded with other clients with ktorrent right04:58
russ33didnt realise that was for me04:58
russ33many thanks04:58
canensmart: using a plugin, yes04:58
smartcanen,ok04:58
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sylvisjOk, first off04:58
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sylvisjhow can I re-set what my keyboard is?04:58
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jeffreyp90hey everyone04:59
WillLuongobusfarer, I do not think so. But you can brun it to a cd and use that to install Kubuntu onto another partition.04:59
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sylvisjhaving my single quotation mark make letters into tt is annoying04:59
canensylvisj: system settings04:59
smartcanen, i got it :)04:59
jeffreyp90can someone help me04:59
sylvisjok, one more thing04:59
sylvisjSudo, never used it before04:59
kcolemansudo = super user04:59
sylvisjI supposed to just give it the user password?04:59
cheeseboyugh theres no ay to install sdlmess05:00
canenjeffreyp90: ask a the question first :)05:00
WillLuongosylvisj no use root password05:00
kcoleman sudo -s, brings u to root05:00
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pclinuxhello05:00
Jucatocheeseboy: did you install libsdl-dev already?05:00
canenkcoleman: su = super user, sudo = super user powers05:00
sylvisjthat great... but what is the root password supposed to be? Like, where was it set? The installer just made user password05:00
jeffreyp90I have lost the top panel in konqueror (file, Edit, bookmarks...)05:00
shinobiWillLuongothere is no root passwd in k/ubuntu05:00
kcolemanok  - canen 1 kcoleman 005:00
jeffreyp90how can I get it back05:00
smartcanen, after loading the plugin do i just open the torrent and save it where i already saved it before05:00
Jucatosylvisj: there is no root password on Kubuntu05:01
Jucato!sudo | sylvisj05:01
ubotusylvisj: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:01
cheeseboy Jucato yes but i have no idea how to install the source05:01
WillLuongoshinobi, I believe you can change the password for superuser to a password different than your user password, no?05:01
pclinuxsudo -i05:01
kcolemanjeff - are u running beryl?05:01
athenajucato i tried to following sudo cmmand but it failed05:01
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canensmart: no go to the partially downloaded file. ktorrent will do the rest05:01
Jucato!compile | cheeseboy05:01
ubotucheeseboy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:01
jeffreyp90no05:01
athenasudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui05:01
sylvisjjucato, sudo apt-get install firefox asks for a password.05:01
canensmart: there should be an import menu item05:01
Jucatosylvisj: yes. *your* password05:01
cheeseboy Jucato ive tried that way05:01
smartcanen, ok05:01
CapaHQuestion, where can I get Kubuntu ISO ? I have found Ubuntu ISOs -- I am looking for kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. ?05:02
wirrjeffreyp90: press CTRL-M05:02
CapaH( I have an incomplete version )05:02
sylvisjok, I gonna just shut up about that now, forgot which password I was using...05:02
smartcanen, found it05:02
jeffreyp90you are a godsend, thanks05:02
WillLuongoCan anyone help me get audio ripping in KAudioCreator?05:02
wirrnp ;)05:02
canenWillLuongo: what's the problem05:02
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sylvisjAnd thanks for helping me get my ' back05:03
cloakableWillLuongo: type audiocd:/ in lonqueror :)05:03
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cloakable*konqueror05:03
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cheeseboy Jucato it only has a makefile.sdl05:03
WillLuongocanen: all the options are greyed out for encoding. I am thinking I need some other packages?05:03
Jucato!ripping | WillLuongo05:03
ubotuWillLuongo: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh05:03
canenyeah,05:03
yotuxwhy is apt warning about  authenticated packages?05:04
canenWillLuongo:  search for filetyenc, e.g oggenc05:04
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Jucatocheeseboy: you'll have to either read the docs that comes with the source code or ask in sdlmess' channel/forums/mailing list05:04
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shinobiyotux gpg keys05:05
yotuxI have a stock install and it didn't include gpg keys?05:05
mackymantictactatic: Yep, worked flawlessly05:05
yotuxI will look into getting them05:05
WillLuongocanen, I cannot find either of those packages.05:05
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smartcanen. how to set the port05:06
athenacan some help me with the installtion of codecs for either Totem or Kaffeine PLEASE.. Pretty PLEASE..05:06
canenWillLuongo: sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools flac lame05:06
smartcanen. how to add a one05:06
WillLuongocanen, ty!05:06
canenWillLuongo: that should cover most cases05:06
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shinobiathena are you still no winning05:07
athenano luck here about to give up05:07
tictactaticmackyman: good to hear that... mine seems to be going well05:07
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athenabut i have to try05:07
canensmart: not too sure what you are asking05:07
shinobiathena have you looked at the restricted formats page of ubuntu forums05:07
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smartcanen, never mind :) i got it05:07
athenayes but when i try to run an apt command it returns an error.05:08
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MPKFAhi... is there a way to simulate left mouse click in kde? some console comand or smtn to send click! :)05:08
canensmart: the UPnP plugin is a nice one to load05:08
kcolemansmart: on ktorrent setting you set the port...then you go to ur router setup and u must forward that port on ur ip address to get better d/l speeds05:08
wolferineis there an easy way (w/o losing data) to allocate more space for my / partition?05:08
shinobiathena what error? that is another issue than the codecs, i suspect your codecs are indeed not installed okay05:08
kcolemansmart: canen is right - but ur router must be configured to be able to use it05:08
athenahold on05:09
smartkcoleman, ok but i am not the router05:09
smartkcoleman, i am not the owner05:09
kcolemanok there in lies the problem05:09
athenaroot@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui05:09
athenaReading package lists... Done05:09
athenaBuilding dependency tree... Done05:09
athenaPackage gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:09
athenaThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:09
athenais only available from another source05:09
athenaE: Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll has no installation candidate05:09
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smartkcoleman, so i have to disable the upnp to manually forward the port05:09
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kcolemanno - keep it enabled05:10
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kcolemanu might just score one for the home team05:10
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pulaskiboy that was perfect ubotu.  The command told me what was wrong, how to fix it and then is seemed adept just picked up where it left off. Thats pretty sophisticated, THANKS A LOT.05:10
kcolemanthere really is no way to get better download speeds if u dont have access to the router05:11
shinobiathena okay. you are missing repositories i guess05:11
athenaI went thru synaptic as suggested in the doco and added the respositories05:12
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N0Lif3|lappywow, I just learned that pressing F8 while in Konqueror opens a Konsole session on the bottom. That's good integration.05:12
shinobiathena are they downloading okay? can you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list via the pastebin?05:12
pulaskiI copied the command.  I'll have to man fuser and learn what it does with the options -vki.  thanks again subotu05:13
athenasure05:13
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MrWGW-congratulations on shipping Feisty05:13
athenahave to file in there do you want to see both?05:14
MrWGW-I was also thrilled to read that Michael Dell, who I much admire, uses it05:14
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smartkcoleman, didnt get you05:14
athena## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 6.06 LTS "dapper drake"05:14
athena## Please report any bug on https://launchpad.net/products/medibuntu/+bugs05:14
athenadeb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free05:14
athenadeb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free05:14
shinobiathena only one should be sources.list05:14
Jucato!pastebin | athena05:14
ubotuathena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:14
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athenaok05:15
shinobiathena ubotu Jucato that's pastebin05:15
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Jucatoshinobi: ubotu's a bot. and yes I know that's pastebin05:15
Kr4t05"According to Michael Dell's lineup of personal rigs, his prized Precision M90 is currently humming along with a copy of Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn at the helm..." --engadget05:15
Jucatoshinobi: it's for athena not to flood the channel05:15
Kr4t05Chalk one up for success. :)05:16
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shinobiJucato that's why i mentioned it earlier when i asked for the sources.list05:16
shinobiwink05:16
athenait in the paste bin sorry for flooding the page guys05:16
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shinobiathena can you send the link of the pastebin?05:17
Jucatoathena: what's the URL to what you pastebin'ed? give it to shinobi05:17
shinobiathena in the address bar of the browser after you submitted05:17
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athenahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16578/05:17
shinobiathena is that all?05:18
shinobiathena that makes sense05:18
shinobihold on05:18
kcolemansmart: if u dont have access to ur router u wont be able to manually forward the ports to get better download speeds05:18
athenayes05:18
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arunkaleok i have a problem here05:20
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arunkalethe feisty installer downloaded all the updates05:20
cheeseboyerror while loading shared libraries: liballeg.so.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:20
cheeseboyhow do i fix that?05:20
shinobiathena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16580/05:20
athenashinobi i have to files 1st is called medibuntu.list 2nd medibuntu.list.save05:20
arunkaleand it installed them, but in the cleaning up phase, it went upto about 60% and said 'could not install upgrades'05:20
cheeseboyhey athena05:20
arunkaleany ideas?05:20
jeffreyp90in kmail, how can I have a reply go on top instead of the bottom?05:21
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shinobiathena threre should just be one file called sources.list in /etc/apt/05:21
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athenacheeseboy yes05:21
MegaVoltthe network manager doesnt show any wireless networks (but i know there are some) - switching to manual config i can enter essid and everything works05:21
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athenashould i copy and past it into my file?05:22
MegaVoltany idea why the network manager doesnt show anything? (essid broadcast is on)05:22
shinobiathena should look something like what i just sent you05:22
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athenai cant delete the other file05:22
shinobiathena yes, it is in a root only folder05:22
jeffreyp90hello05:22
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shinobiathena you will have to do this in another way05:23
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raziel_yes05:23
cheeseboyerror while loading shared libraries: liballeg.so.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:23
cheeseboyHelp05:23
jeffreyp90how can I get replies to go on top in kmail?05:23
detto2hey, I upgraded to feisty, and when I restarted, I couldn't get X to load05:23
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canenjeffreyp90: sort by date?05:23
athenashinobi how?05:24
canenjeffreyp90: sorry, misunderstood05:24
shinobiathena run the command like # sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:24
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canenjeffreyp90: edit the templates in your identity05:24
cheeseboyhelpplease?05:24
shinobiathena then you can paste what i sent you and save05:24
Dr_willischeeseboy,  and what program is ssying that?05:24
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Dr_willis!find liballeg05:24
ubotuFound: liballegro-doc, liballegro4.2, liballegro4.2-dev, liballegro4.2-plugin-arts, liballegro4.2-plugin-esd (and 2 others)05:24
musehi05:24
shinobiathena but you also have to remove or replace all of the 'jp.' with your country05:25
musei don't like KDE05:25
museprefer gnome05:25
jeffreyp90what do I have to do there?05:25
Dr_willismuse,  so?05:25
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Dr_willis:)05:31
museyeah05:31
musebut in some aspects05:31
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musekde is better05:31
canenjeffreyp90: move stuff around :)05:31
museso i use for work05:31
eagles0513875is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatable cuz i have a feeling that is whats locking me out from my windows partition05:31
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Black_Monkeyhi, I'm using an AMD Athlon 64, is it advisable to use the k7 kernel? (32-bit installation)05:31
Mena!wine05:31
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:31
Dr_willisBlack_Monkey,  i dont think you need to use the k7 kernel for that cpu.05:31
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athenashinobi:05:31
athenaroot@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:31
canenjeffreyp90: click Modify, then Templates05:31
athenacannot open display: (null)05:31
athenaRun 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.05:31
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jeffreyp90I did that05:31
shinobimuse. in that case can you tell me how to run a sudo gui text editor in gnome to help athena edit sources.list easily?05:31
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Dr_willisathena,  you are logged in as root..  did you login to X as a user?05:31
shinobiathena, you are using gnome right?05:31
cheeseboyDr_willis rocknes and all of those are already installed05:31
eagles0513875is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatable cuz i have a feeling that is whats locking me out from my windows partition05:31
athenayes05:31
canenjeffreyp90: and the "Use custom..." checkbox?05:31
musei dont know05:31
Black_MonkeyDr_willis: ok, thanks. I'm using i686 at the moment, but I'd heard k7 was better :/05:31
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jeffreyp90ok05:31
Dr_willisBlack_Monkey,  i cant imagine why. :)05:31
shinobiDr_willis good point! wow.05:31
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Black_Monkeykk05:31
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canenjeffreyp90: you can do this globally as well05:31
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canenbut per identity is cleaner05:31
jeffreyp90I am the only user on this computer05:31
shinobiathena uh, since you are logged in as root somehow, then you don't need the sudo part05:31
canenif u  mess up  u can just uncheck the box :)05:31
Dr_willisfor X based apps with a gui youy normally want to use ksudo or the gnome equilivent.05:31
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cheeseboy Dr_willis any ideas?05:31
musei think ''sudo sources.list''05:31
shinobiDr_willis what is the gnome equivalent...muse?05:31
museand then psswd05:31
nuxil!kickoff05:31
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233105:31
shinobino not sudo sources list05:31
jeffreyp90is there an easier way of doing this?05:31
shinobiyou need an app and a visual authent. command05:31
athenastill does not work05:31
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Dr_willisShifty,  i never can rember. i use 'sux' :)05:31
canenjeffreyp90: what's the problem?05:31
shinobiathena can you right click the file and 'edit as root'?05:31
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athenalet me try05:31
jeffreyp90I want to have replies go on top when I reply to a message05:31
canenjeffreyp90: copy the existing variables to where you want them to go by default. I think the one you want is URSOR05:31
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shinobiathena for example go to /etc/apt/ in your nautilus05:31
canenjeffreyp90: click on "Replay to Sender", "New Message" is the default one05:31
shinobiathena then right click the sources.list file and maybe there is option to edit as root in gnome?05:31
canenjeffreyp90: see what i am talking about?05:31
Jucatoshinobi: there isn't :)05:31
athenano does not give me the option05:31
jeffreyp90yes05:31
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MenZasudo gedit <file>05:31
MenZawell05:31
MenZagksudo05:31
Jucatogksudo :)05:31
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shinobiJucato he he he i only used it for like an hour once05:31
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shinobiJucato what would be suitable command line to run a gui text editor as root on sources.list?05:31
shinobiin gnome05:31
shinobiathena can you use vi?05:32
Jucatoshinobi: MenZa gave it already05:32
athenawhats vi?05:32
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Jucatogksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:32
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Jucatoshinobi: or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:32
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WillLuongoIs there an apt-get command for the MAD mp3 decoding library?05:32
shinobiathena there you go, try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:32
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shinobiand paste in the sources i sent you05:33
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GrahamWillLuongo: Search Adept, it'll be there.05:33
athena(gksudo:12250): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:05:33
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Dr_willis!find mad05:33
ubotuFound: libmad0, libmad0-dev, avifile-mad-plugin, gnomad2, gramadoir (and 15 others)05:33
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JucatoWillLuongo: libmad005:33
Dr_willis!info libbmad005:33
Jucatobah :P05:33
ubotuPackage libbmad0 does not exist in feisty05:33
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Dr_willis!info libmad005:33
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB05:33
shinobiathena okay, so # sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:34
athenashinobi no good05:34
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canenjeffreyp90: working now?05:34
Jucatodisregard the sudo if he's/she's already root...05:34
jeffreyp90what do I have to change05:34
canenjeffreyp90: move URSOR to the top05:35
athenayes that worked05:35
canenjeffreyp90: that should be "URSOR"05:35
shinobiathena okay can you paste in what i sent you?05:35
jeffreyp90I am not even seeing that05:36
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canendamn thin is eating teh % and C05:36
jeffreyp90did the name change?05:36
shinobiathena and remove all the 'jp.' prefixes?05:36
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canenshould ne % CURSOR05:36
canenwithout the space05:36
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jeffreyp90OH05:36
jeffreyp90OK05:36
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jeffreyp90i got ya05:36
shinobiathena then save & exit05:37
jeffreyp90do I move it to the very first line05:37
canenyes05:37
canenshould look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16584/05:37
canenor experiment a little until you get it the way you want05:37
ForMatterWhat is the topic..05:38
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canenyou can remove lines too if you want05:38
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athenashould i change jp to au05:39
shinobiathena sure if you are in oz05:39
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ForMatterShinobi: why my modem not appear in my wvdial..05:40
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shinobiForMatter i haven't even seena  modem since like back in '85, no idea at all05:41
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[Al] How do I turn off those popups that I get when I hover over an item in the taskbar?05:41
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arunkaleOk, the upgrade to Feisty seems to have gone pretty badly for me. I got an error during the 'Cleaning Up' phase, and then I closed it and restarted. While turning the computer off, it showed me the new screen for login/logout (the new logo and progress bar). On restart, GRUB loads properly, but when I start Kubuntu, it loads using the old Edgy screen, and then gives me some weird console...05:41
arunkale...errors.. 'unknown stanza', and stuff like that.. and it does a filesystem check and just hangs. I mean, the cursor blinks, but it doesn't do anything else. How do I fix this? If I can't fix it, how do I erase Edgy safely so that I can do a fresh install? (I'm using a dual boot)05:41
[Al] I've turned off KDE effects05:41
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Jucato[Al] : right-click on the taskbar -> Configure Taskbar -> Appearance options -> uncheck "Enable icon mouseover effects"05:42
shinobi[Al]  configure panels - appearance uncheck enable icon mouseover efects05:42
shinobismile05:42
jeffreyp90that puts it on the same line as "on Friday you said....."05:42
[Al] Got it, thanks!05:42
Jucato:P05:42
athenadidn't work05:43
Jucatoshinobi: for a ninja, you're slow :P05:43
canenneed free 700k from /boot05:43
hitmanWillyarunkale, if you're doing a fresh install, you're set, just reformat the hdd05:43
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athenai'll give a ninja my panties any time05:43
shinobiJucato not used to roman  keyboards...need a  brush!05:43
yetithat distribution upgrade tool is a nice idea, but it just doesn't work *sigh*05:43
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ForMatterJucato: are you ever seen modem driver for motorola sm56 in kubuntu..05:43
JucatoForMatter: sorry, no...05:43
hitmanWillyarunkale, at least the nix partition05:44
shinobiathena what does didn't work mean?05:44
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athenathe edit did not write to file05:44
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arunkalehitmanWilly: if I format the nix partition, Windows gets fried too, coz the nix partition is where GRUB is at05:44
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canenis the config file needed in the /boot?05:44
ForMatterJucato: so,my modem cant work properly in kubuntu..05:44
shinobiathena, it just didn't?05:44
athenanope05:44
hitmanWillyarunkale, the feisty disc will reinstall grub05:44
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iam504anyone else get the console-setup setup error?05:45
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JucatoForMatter: not sure. I meant "no I haven't seen a motorola sm56"05:45
shinobiathena hmm, you know, the whole logging in as root thing is  alittle confusing05:45
athenalook maybe we need to sleep on this one for know05:45
iam504found this thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383211 , doesn't say how to fix the console-setup issue05:45
hitmanWillyarunkale, usually, its pretty good at picking up windows05:45
athenatalk to you tomorrow if your online thanks for all your HELP much appreciated.05:45
shinobisure05:46
arunkalehitmanWilly: Is there any way I can just uninstall Edgy safely right now without touching the other partitions, or doing a fresh install of Feisty?05:46
shinobi05:46
jeffreyp90I got it thanks05:46
Dr_willisUninstall edgy.. Hmm..05:46
canencool05:46
yetiokay. the upgrade just aborted 'cause it couldn't upgrade samba. clicking "report bug" crashed the rest of it, now it's stalled. what am i going to do now? any reasonable idea welcome05:46
Bertohi - kicker crashed, and now when i try to open it, it keeps crashing.  7.0405:46
Bertoany ideas of clearing things out and getting to start safely?05:46
Dr_willisyeti,  remove samba, retry the upgrade?05:47
hitmanWillyarunkale, if you do a fresh install of feisty it'll clear up all of that mess05:47
BertoX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16905:47
ForMatterJucato: are bluetooth in my kubuntu can use as local area network with other computer..05:47
Dr_willisBerto,  thats a message from the wacom tablet thats configured in the default x.org file05:47
yetiDr_willis: mh, okay05:47
Dr_willisBerto,  not fatal.05:47
hitmanWillyarunkale, and it won't touch the win partition05:47
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BertoDr_willis, ok, from the kcrash app, i'm seeing some minipager_panelapplet.so messages05:48
ForMatterDr_willis : Jucato: are bluetooth in my kubuntu can use as local area network with other computer..05:48
Dr_willisBerto,  no idea about those. but that Uninit device. is a common question. :)05:48
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Bertowell this stinks.  i wonder what joe sixpack does when this happens05:49
Bertoi don't feel like restarting x05:49
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mathieuany fr here?05:49
Dr_willisBerto,  i always keep /home on its own hd. and do clean installs. :)05:49
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BluesKaj!fr | mathieu05:49
ubotumathieu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:49
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instructor!mp305:50
JucatoForMatter: no idea.... :(05:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:50
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instructorJucato: still awake?05:50
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Jucatoinstructor: a bit.05:51
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instructorRiddell: Will LTS -upgrade-> LTS+1 be possible ?05:51
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ForMatterDr_willis: i want make Local Area Network with bluetooth connection..05:52
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yetilol... maybe a reinstall would be easier than that.05:54
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Rafohwo do i list files ?05:58
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Rafohow*05:58
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abattoirRafo: 'ls'05:59
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shinobiRafowhere05:59
Rafoabattoir, thanks.05:59
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abattoiryou're welcome :)05:59
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abattoirRafo: might want to refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:00
ForMatterAbatoir: my Kafein can play MPEG files,but there's no sounds..06:00
abattoirForMatter: do you have all the necessary codecs installed?06:00
instructor!w32codecs06:01
abattoiri'm guessing you don't have mp3 playback06:01
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:01
abattoir!codecs06:01
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ForMatterAbattoir : where i can find codecs for MPEG..06:01
abattoirForMatter: ^^^ that should help you out06:01
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abattoirForMatter: do you have 'libxine-extracodecs' installed?06:02
blekos_i have Kubuntu installed but want to install ubuntu as well how can i do that?06:02
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abattoirif you don't, please install it, the links above should help you with that06:02
abattoirblekos_: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'06:02
tictactatichey, abattoir, sorry to bother you again, i would need to interrupt the upgrade at Fetching and Installing stage06:02
ForMatterYes,i'd have install it..06:02
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tictactaticit's still at fetchin file 409 out of 118106:03
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tictactaticcan i safely kill it, despite the dire warning the upgrade utility gave me when i go to that stage?06:03
kcolemani finally just got all 1241 downloaded - im now starting my install06:03
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abattoirtictactatic: hi! i guess it's safe to interrupt when it's only downloading... but i haven't tried it myself, so can't say for sure06:03
tictactaticOK, there is only one way to find out06:04
tictactatic;)06:04
tictactaticwill let you know how it goes. thanks.06:04
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wolferinecan gparted add to a partition, without losing data?06:05
Dr_williswolferine,  you mean 'enlarge an existing partition'06:05
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wolferineyes Dr06:06
Dr_willisdepends on the filesystems to some degree.06:06
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Dr_willisbut gparted should be able to do it.06:06
Dr_willisin many cases06:06
ForMatterAbattoir: i cant connect the wireless access point with wireless agent..it can detected,but i cant connect it..06:06
wolferineext306:07
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chrisloukaskalisperaaaaaaa06:07
maikelForMatter: try network manager06:07
wolferineboth are ext306:07
kcolemanForMatter i had the same problem - try a different program - kwlan works for me06:07
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Dr_williswolferine,  should be able to do it then. You may want to backup any imporntant data just in case.06:07
chrisloukasis everyone who speaks greek?06:07
ForMatterKcoleman: where i can find kwlan..06:07
blekos_speraaaaaaaaaaaaaa06:07
pingvenoI'm using the upgrade tool and it's stuck on the Fetching and installing the upgrades step. Supposedly it has been configuring dolphin for the past 20 minutes.06:08
chrisloukaskalispera blekos06:08
kcolemanadpet-package manager06:08
wolferineno, if that is even 10% an issue, I will not do it06:08
instructor!gr06:08
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes06:08
wolferinebut thanks for the advice06:08
pingvenoThere was an error message that popped up and I stupidly closed it06:08
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instructor!gr | chrisloukas06:08
ubotuchrisloukas: please see above06:08
pingvenoI rememnber a path related to deb installatio06:09
Dr_williswolferine,  any thingk not backed up is at risk. even if you are not doing anything :) ive seen way to much drive failure in the last few years..06:09
ForMatterKcoleman:from cd repository..?06:09
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weedarrunning edgy and the adept updater told me feisty was out. It said it would open an upgrade tool, but nothing came up - but Adept Updater seems to have the feisty repositories enbled06:09
wolferineDr_willis, that has nothing to do with it06:09
wolferinebut i took your advice, so thatnks06:09
weedarenabled, can I just upgrade with it?06:09
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ForMatterDr_willis:where i can find kwlan..06:11
Dr_willisI give the same lecture to everyone. :) and some times they come back a week later saying i cursed them because their HD just died. :)06:11
Dr_willis!find kwlan06:11
ubotuFound: kwlan06:11
Dr_willis!info kwlan06:12
ubotukwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 459 kB, installed size 1104 kB06:12
ForMatter!Find kwlan06:12
Dr_willissudo apt-get install kwlan  --- should install it.06:12
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ForMatterDr_willis: thanks06:13
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USMarinei hope kubuntu 7.04 doesnt crash with xfs like it did in the previous version06:13
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shinobi_Dr_willis where can i learn the bot controls that's cool06:15
USMarine!help ?06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
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shinobi_nice06:16
shinobi_freaky. but nice.06:16
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BluesKaj!xfs06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
ForMatter!info kwlan06:16
ubotukwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 459 kB, installed size 1104 kB06:16
ForMatter!find bluetooth06:17
ubotuFound: kdebluetooth, kdebluetooth-irmcsync, libbluetooth2, libbluetooth2-dev, bluetooth (and 3 others)06:17
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acetoxyYo, I started upgrading earlier today06:17
acetoxyThen the upgrading-tool crashed because of some dependency error or something like that06:17
Dr_willis!bot06:17
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:17
ForMatter!info netstat06:17
ubotuPackage netstat does not exist in feisty06:17
acetoxyAnd I couldn't go back to the upgrading-tool, so I did dpkg --configure -a, and I get dependency errors all the time06:18
ForMatter!help06:18
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:18
wolferinehow can I setup qtparted to see my /media not my /mnt06:18
shinobi_okay okay i'm scared now...06:18
USMarineget a dog06:18
acetoxySo, what would be the next step from here? To reinstall kubuntu from scratch?06:18
hitmanWillywolferine, you NEVER want to partition a mounted drive06:19
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ForMatter!find xmms06:20
ubotuFound: xmms, xmms-dev, gaim-xmms-remote, libxmms-perl, libxmms-ruby (and 67 others)06:20
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shinobi_USMarine to eat?06:20
wolferinehitmanWilly, so I have to use a LiveCD ?06:20
ForMatter!info games06:20
ubotuPackage games does not exist in feisty06:20
hitmanWillywolferine, are you partitioning your root drive?06:21
wolferineyes06:21
hitmanWillywolferine, then probably, yes06:21
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Dr_willislive cd;s are the way to do many of those tasks.06:21
BluesKajwolferine, use GParted Live CD06:21
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Dr_willisgparted live cd - is very well done. :) and only 50mb06:21
xororandi've got some weird display error while trying to install feisty fawn kubuntu on virtualbox: http://frexx.de/binpaste/kubuntu-feisty-fawn-vbox.png06:22
xororanddon't know if this issue is already known06:22
shinobi_Dr_willis mmm can run usb drive06:22
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abattoirxororand: someone else had the same issue...06:24
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xororandabattoir: it's not a very big deal. just wanted to post it in case it's not known yet06:25
abattoirxororand: but i think it's something with vbox/qt4/X not w/ Ubiquity06:25
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TomStrongHi there06:25
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TomStrongDoes anyone know where Konsole save the session ?06:25
xororandabattoir: perhaps the video ram of the vbox is too low, 8 megabytes06:25
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abattoirxororand: you could file a bug report and see what the devs say if you want to06:25
TomStrongor sessions06:25
abattoirxororand: yup, that could be it06:25
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abattoirTomStrong: tried ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc ?06:27
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blabla1983is anyone using amule?06:27
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TomStrongabattoir, tks06:27
abattoirTomStrong: np06:28
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TomStrongabattoir, do you know a way to load a session from a file ?06:30
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TomStrongabattoir, that file only has ini stuff not sessions :(06:31
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abattoirTomStrong: Settings->Save Session Profile ?06:31
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abattoirTomStrong: Settings->Configure Konsole->Session too06:33
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shogoukihi06:34
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TomStrongabattoir, I know but i want to use this session in another computers06:34
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shogoukihow can i install linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 package ? apt-get cant install it because it not exists but it is shown in repository ...06:34
abattoirTomStrong: see if it's saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole06:35
lag_3di have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?06:35
Dr_willis!find 2.6.15-2306:35
ubotuFound: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-2306:35
Dr_willis!find linux-image-2.6.15-23-68606:35
shogoukiin fact i search a 686 kernel for my dualcore06:35
ubotuPackage/file linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 does not exist in feisty06:35
eagles0513875is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatible06:36
Dr_willisthe -gneric kernel has replaced most of those specific kernel versions06:36
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eagles0513875i cant even log into my windows partition without it locking up my entire system06:36
TomStrongabattoir, under the dir consoles06:36
TomStrongtks06:36
TomStrongups i meant "profiles"06:36
shogoukiDr_willis: i hope my both core are working :)06:36
Dr_willisntfs-3g is still a bit of a work in progress06:37
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Dr_willisshogouki,  check /proc/cpu perhaps?06:37
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Dr_willisim not sure of your logic in thinking 686 is needed for dual core is comming.06:37
pingvenoIs it just me, or is the Kubuntu wiki painful overloaded?06:38
Dr_willisall the *ubuntu sites are a bit loaded at this time06:38
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pingvenoah06:38
pingvenosurprise!06:38
Dr_willisim suprised these channels are still working heh06:38
pingvenolol06:38
Dr_willispoor ubotu  is  over heating!06:38
eagles0513875how can i fix it now even with ntfs-3g disabled Dr_willis06:38
shogoukiDr_willis: well thats all the "ubuntu on this laptop" pages said, and dont know personnally ... :)06:39
pingvenoMaybe IRC's on a different server06:39
ahmadMaybe it's due to the latest release of Fiesty Fawn06:39
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Dr_williseagles0513875,  fix 'what' exactly? you could just mount the ntfs drives read only using the older modules/method.06:39
pingvenoIt's not exactly a huge load06:39
xstAfter upgrading to feisty I have no longer any options to shut down or restart when I press the K->"log out" menu option. I have only the option "Log out". What's wrong?06:39
lag_3di have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?06:39
Dr_willisxst,  you using KDM to login to kde?06:39
eagles0513875im saying that when i boot into windows and type in my password it locks my system entierly06:39
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Dr_williseagles0513875,  oh. No idea on that then.06:39
USMarinexst you're not using kdm06:39
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xstUSMarine DR_Villis: That's correct. I use GDM. But I had the options in edgy. Has something changed?06:41
ahmadI wanted to ask: In a Dell Inspiron 6400, do I have to install the alternate Kubuntu, or is it ok to use the live CD?06:41
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hendaushiya06:41
USMarineobivously you were using kdm in edgy06:41
Dr_willisxst,  only time ive seen those options - is when using KDM to login to KDE. (or visa-versa GDM to get to gnome)06:41
hendaussomebody help me please!06:41
Dr_willishendaus,  and the problem is?06:41
USMarinehendaus call 91106:41
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xstAnother option that is missing is "Switch User". Where has this one gone?06:42
lag_3dhendaus: it's less spammy to ask directly rather than ask to ask06:42
hendausDr_willis,  thanx, but how can i grab a movie from yourtube.com?06:42
Dr_willisI got 'switch user'06:42
Dr_willishendaus,  thers several firefox plugins that can do that.06:42
Elite2142_noob: is to install "sudo apt-get install +name+"?06:43
hendausDr_willis,  can u help me please?06:43
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USMarinehendaus a simple google query will tell you how06:43
Dr_willishendaus,  go to the firefox extensions site.. look around.06:43
xstDr_willis: In feisty? And in the K dropdown menu?06:43
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Dr_willisxst,  yes.06:44
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hendausDr_willis,  ok and whats the name of the plugin/06:44
xststrange06:44
Dr_willishendaus,  'look around' i dont have it installed at this moment - and theres several to chose from06:44
lag_3dhendaus: also, you can find some sites that download the damn .flv for you (search google download flv or something like that). you can also look for the damn .flv in the browser cash.06:44
Dr_williswhile you are there - be sure to grab 'adblock plus' and  explore :) theres a lot of great extensions.06:44
hendausDr_willis,  thanx06:44
hendauslag_3d,  thanx also :)06:45
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USMarinexst install kdm and use it as your login manager06:45
lag_3di have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?06:46
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USMarinelag_3d keep dreaming06:47
Dr_willisthe alsa-mixer and  other mixers are all he really needs for his Audigy cards.06:47
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Dr_willisi dont 'need' chipmunk-sounding-effects. :)06:47
hendausDr_willis,  i found from firefox addon site videodownloader, now how can i install it on kubuntu coz i am newbie06:48
lag_3dDr_willis: one of them is that i have an equalizer which produces a very very very strong bass, which i love. it looks quite much like a hardware equalizer, and i need it badly and a half.06:48
Dr_willishendaus,  install firefox.. go to that site with firefox.. click on the link06:48
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hendausDr_willis,  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2390 this is the link but tell me how to install it on kubuntu maybe different from windows06:49
xstDr_willis: It helped to switch to kdm. Thanks a lot06:49
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USMarinelool06:49
Dr_willisxst,  heh - we said to use kdm like... some time ago. :)06:49
Dr_willishendaus,  you need to install firefox. then click on that install link from within firefox.06:50
yetiis there some command involving dpkg or such that tells me which package a file belongs to?06:50
USMarine 5:39p  (USMarine) xst you're not using kdm06:50
USMarine11min ago06:50
lag_3dDr_willis: how do i get some similarly powerful equalizer in kubuntu?06:50
hendausDr_willis,  i have firefox installed06:50
Dr_willishendaus,  i just clicked on the big 'install now' button and it installed.06:50
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lag_3dyeti: packages.ubuntu.com06:50
Dr_willisthen you restart firefox06:50
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xstUSMarine: Eh, thats correct. Thats why I switched to kdm and reported to success to Dr_willis?06:51
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yetilag_3d: i know about that one, but isn't there something like dpkg --file /usr/bin/<blah>?06:51
FishyHow to replace krusader with konqueror as default filemanager? I have tried to "open with" krusader and "remember" settings. Krusader tries to start, then crashes.06:51
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FishyI don't know if it is possible to test it from the terminal to see what is going wrong06:52
Dr_willisFishy,  im not sure thats doable.  may want to ask in #KDE06:52
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lag_3dyeti: yes, there is a command, but i always forget what it is. i think you'll have to install some new app first.06:53
lag_3dyeti: like apt-file or apt-cache or something06:53
lag_3dDr_willis: so... i have a driver/equalizer in windows which produces a very very very very strong bass, which i love. it looks quite much like a hardware equalizer, and i need it badly and a half. how do i get some similarly powerful equalizer in kubuntu?06:54
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Dr_willisalsa-mixer or try any of the other dozen or so mixers out06:54
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Dr_willisother then that.. i dont mess with the soundmuch06:55
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Dr_willisgot a Master/Base/Treble/other sliders in Kmix also i see06:55
lag_3dDr_willis: can the alsa-mixer be as low level as that windows application?06:55
Dr_willisno idea. i dont mess with windows. :)06:56
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Dr_williskernel -> alsa->alsa-mixer :) thats about low as it gets.06:56
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lag_3dDr_willis: that's just a chart, not a menu navigation suggestion, right?06:57
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Dr_willisyep.06:57
chrismirHi, what does the second column in adept mean (column has several entries with ubuntu logo)06:57
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wolferinehow can I speed up access my drives, can I setup Nautilus to not scan my network drives on startup, just accessing them when I click on the mount?06:57
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blableblumuy buenas !06:57
lag_3dDr_willis: cool, just making sure06:57
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lag_3dDr_willis: also, i think i hear a cleaner sound in windows, do you think it's just an impression?06:57
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Dr_willisNautilus is the gnome file manager. not kde's06:57
wolferineyes06:58
wolferineso?06:58
Dr_willislag_3d,  proberly. but who can tell :)06:58
blablebluperdonad alguno me podria hechar una mano para configurar la resolucion de pantalla ?06:58
Dr_williswolferine,  this is the KDE ubuntu channel.06:58
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lag_3d:))06:58
wolferineDr_willis, i have been here for the last 2 months06:58
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scuzzlebuttGood Morning, i'm hoping to find someone here who might help me, i'm a newbie to Linux06:58
lag_3d!spanish06:58
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:58
wolferinenot sure if its necessary to tell me its a kubuntu channel06:58
Dr_willisthen you may want to ask in #gnome or #ubuntu - you may have better luck.06:58
bibliotecaalguem fala portugues ?06:58
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wolferineluck?06:58
bibliotecaalguem fala portugues ?06:59
wolferineif you dont know, its ok Dr_willis06:59
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Dr_willisi doubt if many of the helpers in here ever use nautilus06:59
wolferinei wouldnt be embarrassed06:59
BluesKajscuzzlebutt, go ahead just ask your question06:59
Jucato!pt | biblioteca06:59
ubotubiblioteca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:59
lag_3dbiblioteca: see what ubotu has to say:06:59
lag_3d!portuguese06:59
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chrismirWhat does the second column in adept mean (column has several entries with ubuntu logo)06:59
bibliotecacomo eh seu nome ?07:00
BluesKaj!it07:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:00
bibliotecalag 3d07:00
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bibliotecacomo eh seu nome ?07:00
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Jucatobiblioteca: English only in here07:00
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biblioteca!portuguese07:00
wolferineDr_willis, I help in here as much as I can07:01
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:01
wolferineand I use Nautilus07:01
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Jucatochrismir: the packages with the kubuntu logo are the supported packages I think (packages in main and restricted)07:01
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scuzzlebuttmy question is this: # tar -zxvf hamachi-0.9.9.9-6.tar.gz, where do i put this command line.....i'm trying to install hamachi07:01
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chrismirJucato: ah, thx07:01
Dr_williswork time for me. have fun.07:01
soulriderbye Dr_willis07:01
bibliotecasabado eh feriado ai ?07:01
soulrider!br | biblioteca07:02
ubotubiblioteca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:02
BluesKajin the konsole, scuzzlebutt07:02
biblioteca!br07:02
bibliotecaja fui07:02
soulrider!torrents07:02
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/07:02
wolferineand my question isnt necessarily dependant upon my "file viewer"07:02
scuzzlebuttok, where do i find the konsole...the termial?07:02
BluesKajtes07:03
BluesKajyes07:03
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Jucatoscuzzlebutt: K Menu -> System -> Konsole07:03
scuzzlebutttks <BLUESKaj> L8trz all07:03
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animimotusHi07:03
mnadhrohi07:04
animimotushttp://kubuntu.com/download.php#lts <------- here is the DVD pour Kubuntu, does it exist the same for Ubuntu ?07:04
mnadhrodo think K is better than ubuntu07:04
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lag_3dhow do i access cnr (click and run)?07:05
animimotusmnadhro: ?07:05
Dr_willislag_3d,  not sure thats supported yet under ubuntu/kubuntu - i was thinking it was a 'work in progress'07:05
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mnadhroand why its better ?07:06
xstWhere do I configure which soundcard that should be used as default? (Using Feisty)07:06
lag_3dDr_willis: how do i have access to the nvidia driver?07:06
Jucato!nvidia | lag_3d07:06
ubotulag_3d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
lag_3dJucato: so it isn't installed by default, as they said?07:07
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Jucatolag_3d: as who said?07:08
Jucatono, the proprietary/binary nvidia (or ati) drivers are not installed by default (yet...)07:09
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lag_3dJucato: it has been said that ubuntu would have compiz + driver *installed* by default, only not *enabled*, am i wrong?07:10
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Jucatolag_3d: partly correct. they announced a bit later (March I think) that they won't be doing that for Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)07:11
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lag_3dJucato: why isn't the restricted-manager package installed by default in kubuntu (as i assume it is in ubuntu)?07:12
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coreymon77hi guys07:12
Jucatolag_3d: because restricted-manager is a GNOME app that is dependent on synaptic being installed, which Kubuntu doesn't do.07:12
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osberto#kubuntu-es07:12
Jucatoso it's a very Ubuntu-specific app. might have a Kubuntu port next release07:12
coreymon77are the repos still insanely bogged down07:13
coreymon77and i got a problem07:13
lag_3dJucato: where do i find a list of ubuntu-only apps that have no equivalent in kubuntu?07:13
coreymon77update manager wont load07:13
lag_3dJucato: it's very important for me to get this list07:13
coreymon77i downlaod the relase announcement07:13
coreymon77and downloaded the tool, but when i click finish, it doesnt load07:14
coreymon77what do i do07:14
Jucatolag_3d: hm... not really sure. it's only by trial and error...but most GNOME/GTK+ apps in Ubuntu are not installed on Kubuntu.07:14
BluesKajlag_3d,  try #ubuntu , they'll be glad to help you there07:14
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Jucatolag_3d: although some would have counterparts07:14
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coreymon77can i just download update-manager through apt and then run it in text mode?07:14
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Jucatocoreymon77: update-manager is a GUI app07:15
lag_3dblue: what do you mean? help me with what?07:15
lag_3dBluesKaj: what do you mean? help me with what?07:15
vbgunzpython-minimal is halting my upgrade to Feisty from Edgy, is this reported?07:15
coreymon77can i get it from apt-get thouhg07:15
saveme1hello world07:15
lag_3dBluesKaj: did you get the wrong impression my question was not kubuntu-specific?07:15
coreymon77because when i type update-manager into konsole, it says that the command is not found07:15
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BluesKajlag_3d, your list of gnome only apps07:16
vbgunzthe Kubuntu wiki in the topic is down too, I could not access it all day... is Feisty upgrade broken?07:16
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coreymon77Jucato: can i donwlaod update-manager from apt07:16
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hak5fanHello. My mic volume on skype is very low. It worked correctly before dinner but after dinner I booted in to a different kernel I have, It didn't work on that kernel so I booted up the first kernel again and now it doesn't work on that kernel either07:16
Jucatovbgunz: no. but the servers might be being bogged by lots of downloads07:16
coreymon77Jucato: because when i type update-manager into konsole, it says that the command is not found07:16
hak5fanwhat is this07:16
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coreymon77are the repos still insanely bogged down?07:17
Jucatocoreymon77: yes I think so. sudo apt-get install update-manager. not sure how well it works on Kubuntu though. but you can try07:17
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coreymon77Jucato: i think i have no other way07:17
Jucatocoreymon77: repos? maybe. wiki/website servers, most probably07:17
coreymon77Jucato: i try doing it through adept and it wont work07:17
lag_3dBluesKaj: i don't want a list of gnome-only apps, as they are too many anyway and i know most of them; i want a list of ubuntu apps that have no couterpart in kubuntu, especially those ones made by the (k)ubuntu team.07:17
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wolferinejust for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?07:17
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wolferineor are all the updated packages in the .iso?07:18
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coreymon77Jucato: i view the release announcement, download the apt and then press finish to close adept and run the update tool,07:18
coreymon77Jucato: the problem is, adept doesnt close and no tool pops u[07:18
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Jucatocoreymon77: not really sure what's happening :/07:19
pingvenoI'm having trouble with a stalled feisty update. It's stuck on fetching and installing, with the status being "preparing to configure dolphin"07:19
utnubukhey is there a torrent for the new feisty??07:19
wolferineutnubuk, of course07:19
vbgunzJucato: I've already downloaded all the files I think... now trying to install them I am halted at python-minimal... here is everything after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade: http://dpaste.com/8811/07:19
utnubuki cant find it on the website...07:19
pingvenoThere was an error message that popped up a whiile ago, but I idiotically closed it.07:19
wolferinetry piratebay07:19
hak5fanI don't know what to do because I've had this problem before but after changing form ALSA to OSS driver in skype it just worked now it doesn't07:19
BluesKajlag_3d, well then I still think #ubuntu is your best bet for gnome exclusive apps07:19
utnubukok ty07:19
coreymon77Jucato: oh ya, and there is no version upgrade button in adept07:19
lag_3dBluesKaj: good07:20
pingvenocoreymon77: not even a Full Upgrade button?07:20
coreymon77pingveno: yes, there is that07:20
coreymon77pingveno: and i have used that07:20
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coreymon77pingveno: then i view the release announcement again and redownload the tool07:20
Jucatovbgunz: tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?07:21
coreymon77pingveno: then i press finish to close adept and run the tool, but adept doesnt close and the tool doesnt run07:21
Jucatocoreymon77: what happens when you close adept? does the tool run?07:21
pingvenocoreymon77: have you downloaded the package lists again?07:21
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vbgunzJucato: yes, then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but I still end up with the same error and halt at the same spot when I try again :(07:21
coreymon77Jucato: no it doesnt07:21
soulrideris there any way to update to feisty using a CD as a repo ?07:21
lag_3dnow, after i installed the new nvidia driver kdm and xorg started to complain that kernel module doesn't match the kernel anymore. i fixed this by adding a "rmmod nvidia; modprobe nvidia" line to /etc/rc/rc.local. is there any way to fix the root of this problem?07:22
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Jucatosoulrider: only with the alternate install cd and with your online repositories disabled (I think)07:22
soulriderah fork!07:22
lag_3dsoulrider: something like apt-cd or so07:22
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Jucatolag_3d: you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic07:22
coreymon77Jucato: how do i get the thing to work!07:22
lag_3dJucato: and this will do what?07:23
coreymon77Jucato: i dont want to have to whipe and cd install07:23
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vbgunzJucato: here is what I get when I say "sudo apt-get -f install" http://dpaste.com/8813/07:23
soulriderJucato: do you need to download too much if youre going from an updated edgy installation ?07:23
pacmandidn't 7.04 come out today?07:23
Jucatolag_3d: it will install the restricted modules needed by the kernel to load the nvidia drivers07:23
soulriderpacman: yesterday07:23
pacmanWOOHOO!07:23
pacmancan I apt-get it?07:23
Jucatosoulrider: you upgrade every package you have installed, and probably add some more07:23
soulrideryou can upgrade with adept07:23
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soulriderJucato: so its like an 800mb update ?07:24
coreymon77Jucato: why wont mine work07:24
Jucatosoulrider: sort of07:24
soulriderok, so witht he alternate cd i will be able to update right? thats 100% sure?07:24
coreymon77Jucato: should i just apt-get update-manager and then use that07:24
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lag_3dJucato: and i need to do this every time i install a new nvidia driver from the official nvidia site?07:25
Jucatocoreymon77: hm.... can you run "kdesu adept_manager" in Konsole, then try to perform the steps indicated in the release announcement. then when it gets to the part where it should launch the upgrade tool, can you pastebin whatever error messages show up?07:25
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coreymon77oh07:25
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monika__hi, how can i access samba or windows shares from kubuntu?07:25
coreymon77ill do that07:25
coreymon77but im not at home now07:25
Jucatolag_3d: oh no. you need extra steps if you are going to get it from nvidia.com. why not just use the drivers in the repositories?07:25
coreymon77Jucato: ill do that later07:25
pacmanso what do I need to do to upgrade from 6.06?07:25
soulridermonika__: in konqueror you have the remote places thing i think07:25
vbgunzman, I've had this upgrade nightmare since morning :(07:25
Jucatocoreymon77: btw, are you using KDE 3.5.6 on Edgy?07:25
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coreymon77Jucato: yup, but a\i added the repo and did an upgrade07:26
hitmanWillypacman, update to 6.10 first, then update to feisty07:26
coreymon77Jucato: gtg07:26
Jucatocoreymon77: did you add the special repo indicated in the release announcement?07:26
Briareos1has anyone ever set up a gameport joystick on a SBLive!5.1 in Kubuntu 64 bit?07:26
coreymon77Jucato: class time07:26
coreymon77Jucato: yes07:26
soulriderJucato: are you 100% sure that with the alternate disc i can upgrade to feisty ?07:26
monika__soulrider, shouldn't i install some packages?07:26
Jucatook07:26
soulridermonika__: nope07:26
coreymon77Jucato: yes i added the repo07:26
Jucatosoulrider: only for those apps that are installed by default on a default Kubuntu installation (usually the ones from main)07:27
lag_3dJucato: i find no official nvidia driver in any repo, or what should its name be?07:27
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soulriderJucato: ok07:27
Jucato!nvidia | lag_3d07:27
hitmanWillylag_3d, nvidia-glx07:27
ubotulag_3d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
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Jucatolag_3d: the guide is there ^^^^07:27
JucatohitmanWilly: depends on what card, though07:27
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hitmanWillyoh yeah, legacy too07:27
vbgunzJucato: do you have an idea about how to solve this after "sudo apt-get -f install" http://dpaste.com/8813/07:28
JucatohitmanWilly: and -new07:28
hitmanWillyyup07:28
wolferinejust for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?07:28
hitmanWillysorry, keep forgetting not everyone has a 790007:28
Jucatovbgunz: sorry no.. :(07:28
vbgunzJucato: :)07:28
vbgunzI hope a solution goes up soon someplace, this is bugging me :(07:28
monika__soulrider, sorry, but i can't really find it07:28
hitmanWillyvbgunz, did you try dpkg --configure -a07:29
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vbgunzhitmanWilly: yes07:29
hitmanWillyhmm, no idea then07:29
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vbgunzhitmanWilly: same deal :(07:29
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nozeyanyone using feisty + Intel Corporation 82551QM Ethernet Controller network card?07:30
monika__soulrider, if i type smb:/ I can find my computer07:30
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N0Lif3|lappyI was reading that I could enable mouse gestures in Konqueror through khotkeys, but when I try to open khotkeys through the terminal it says "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."07:31
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N0Lif3|lappyso, what's up with that?07:32
pacmanwhat's the name of the package for 6.1007:32
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Olive1hello07:32
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hitmanWilly!upgrade > pacman07:32
JucatoN0Lif3|lappy: use System Settings -> Accessibility ?07:32
monika__thank you, bye07:33
Olive1can anybody help me with a WiFi question?07:33
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Olive1I have a IBM T4207:33
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Olive1cant get WiFi to work07:33
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vbgunz!upgrade > vbgunz07:34
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Olive1am running latest version07:34
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Olive1am i in the right place for help?07:35
wolferinejust for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?07:36
wolferineOlive1, Feisty?07:36
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Olive1yes v 707:36
hitmanWillywolferine, not initially, i don't think07:36
instructorshouldn't var[1] ="$file" work?07:36
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Olive1are there some commands i can run to check status07:37
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instructorOlive1: Status?07:37
Olive1as in if the hw is working ok07:37
wolferinehitmanWilly, I attempted to do an Internet install yesterday, but I had an issue, to enough drive space, so I just decided to do a CD install, which is now attempting to dl upgrades07:37
Olive1then i know if its just the config07:37
wolferinebut i had assusmed they were on the CD....07:37
instructorOlive1: What hw?07:38
Olive1hardware07:38
instructorOlive1: All hw?07:38
Olive1well just wifi07:38
hitmanWillywolferine, hmm, clean installed the beta myself, not sure about that07:38
wolferineOlive1, what is your question exactly, your in the right place btw :)07:38
wolferinek, thanks hitmanWilly07:38
Olive1lol - ok07:38
instructor!wifi07:38
Olive1my question is07:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:38
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Olive1just done an install of v 7 on my ibm t4207:38
Olive1and all seems good07:38
Olive1except07:39
Olive1wifi07:39
Chem242anyone able to answer a newb question07:39
Jucatofire away07:39
wolferineOlive1, on irc, people usually expect ppl to ask there questions, not just ask to ask :)07:39
Jucato!ask07:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:39
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instructor!someone | Chem24207:39
ubotuChem242: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:39
Jucato!someone07:39
wolferineOlive1, did you check google?07:39
Olive1and i wanted to know if you could suggest some commands to run to see if the hardware is working ok and how i can check the config07:39
instructor!wifi | Olive107:39
ubotuOlive1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:39
Olive1yes - im stuck now07:40
wolferinefor setting up the wifi...07:40
instructor!newb07:40
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:40
instructor!anyone07:40
Chem242I just installed for the first time...new version 7.0.4...HP laptop...no wifi...did someresearch have a Broadcom 4311BG PCI-E card....found this http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=home but don't understand how to install it07:40
Olive1is it know to be problematic on a imb t42?07:40
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:40
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instructorOlive1: did You read the link above?07:40
Olive1yes - re-looking at it again now07:41
instructor!wifi | Chem24207:41
ubotuChem242: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:41
Sheazscheusing i810 with intel 915gm. When using google earth, the closer I zoom in, the whiter the entire window becomes. It is like there is a polygon overlay that is losing its transparency and turning white07:41
Sheazscheany ideas?07:41
hitmanWillyChem242, broadcom cards generally dont work too well in linux, probably have to use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers07:41
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Chem242hitmanWilly: how do I do that?07:41
hitmanWilly!ndiswrapper07:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:41
Chem242yeah looking at that now07:42
wolferineoh boys07:42
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bigdad1ewhere do i get the driver cd for fiesty?07:44
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monacaxxxre07:44
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LjLbigdad1e: what is the driver cd?07:44
monacaxxxsorry again, isn't the flash player in any standard repository!?07:44
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bigdad1elol'07:44
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bigdad1enm07:44
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bigdad1ehas anyone had any problems with fiesty and wireless networks?07:45
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Sheazschehelp07:45
lolsalut07:45
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MorganKso... Do opera for Edgy work in fiesty?07:46
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lolavez vous test la derniere version de kubuntu07:47
eduardoJucato: im trying to upgrade, i open adept and it downloads the dist upgrade tool, but it never opens it07:47
eduardoJucato: this is soulrider btw :P07:47
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Jucato!fr | lol07:48
ubotulol: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:48
Jucatoeduardo: hm... we seem to be getting that problem a lot :(07:48
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lolok merci07:48
eduardooh wait, my repos are feisty now i think07:48
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eduardoJucato: will the new files still go under /var/apt/cache ?07:50
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eduardoi wanna know if i can copy them to that dir on another PC to make the upgradego fast07:50
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Jucatoeduardo:  /var/cache/apt/archive07:50
Elite2142_i need help :|07:50
vbgunzI keep downloading the dist-upgrade tool. It tells me to click finish to close Adept but it doesn't close it. I close it and nothing happens :(07:50
eduardolike if it had already downloaded the packages07:50
eduardoyeah Jucato, that one07:50
eduardovbgunz: same happens here07:50
pingvenoI kill an apt/dpkg related process and I think it left a lock sitting around. How do I clear it?07:50
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eduardorestart adept and click on fetch updates07:50
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eduardosee if your repos changed to feisty07:51
Elite2142_how come when I try sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer I get this error "E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-installer"07:51
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vbgunzmy repos did change to feisty :(07:51
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eduardoElite2142_: try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree07:51
frano486hi07:51
hitmanWillypingveno, sudo dpkg --configure -a07:51
SkyblastAtWorkI finally restarted my upgrade. It didn't work out =/07:51
eduardovbgunz: try upgrading all packages07:51
Elite2142_already the newist version?07:52
hitmanWillypingveno, or if that doesn't work, a reboot will clear any lcoks07:52
eduardoElite2142_: yes07:52
Elite2142_I need the flash plugin though it sais I havn't got07:52
pingvenohmmmm07:52
Elite2142_on firefox07:52
SkyblastAtWorkIt kept trying to fsck the drive when it booted up, but even when I booted from a live disc and fixed it, it still wanted to at boot. It would get to kdm, but then wouldn't let me log in past that.07:52
hitmanWillyElite2142_, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package07:53
pingvenohitmanWilly: I'm not sure about clearing locks, but I think it just started upgrading my system.07:53
pingvenoThat is, by the way, a good thing07:53
slicknickhat I can move a 700 mb file around on.07:53
slicknickI have a 700 mb pdf that I need to take to the printer and I can't ftp it.07:53
slicknickthanks07:53
slicknickdanny07:53
slicknickHide Section - Web Information07:53
slicknickWeb Information07:53
slicknickshit07:53
CugelWell, I'm on Feisty. Can it be that it _looks_ better (fonts etc)?07:53
bluewavehow can I get xfce installed on my kubuntu, I hate how kde uses up half my ram07:53
slicknickwhoops07:53
vbgunzeduardo: earlier this morning, I actually had the new update window on screen but it vomited two errors and froze to death so I killed it, then I apt-get -f install, configured and still have errors... forget about it, something is borked and I cannot solve it, I am a fish out of water here :(07:53
slicknickmy bad07:53
hitmanWillypingveno, all that cmd i gave you does is install any packages that apt downloaded07:53
pingvenoAh07:53
pingvenoRight07:53
eduardovbgunz: i love using aptitude, try aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade07:53
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pingvenohitmanWilly: Then I suppose I'll have to continue the update through adept, no?07:54
styvyblueweave, download xubuntu07:54
eduardobluewave: try installing the package called "xubuntu-desktop"07:54
bluewavestyvy, maybe I don't wanna!07:54
vbgunzeduardo: I did apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, someone sabotaged me :(07:54
hitmanWillypingveno, when apt errors out it sometimes leaves locks and unconfigured packages lying around07:54
pingvenoah07:54
pingvenoyes07:54
eduardovbgunz: use aptitude, i heard its better than apt-get in some cases07:54
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Elite2142_where can I find the "ubuntu restricted area package"?07:55
pingvenoIn this case bits of it were basically dead, so I killed dpkg07:55
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vbgunzeduardo: won't hurt to try I suppose, am doing it now and am getting extra packages 33mb, this could be it07:56
hitmanWillyElite2142_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras07:56
Elite2142_kthx07:56
wolferinehow can I speed up access my drives, can I setup Nautilus to not scan my network drives on startup, just accessing them when I click on the mount?07:56
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albin_is it a bad idea to upgrade via adept today? I see that the download is very slow... heavy loaded servers?07:56
hitmanWillywolferine, just enable noauto in fstab07:56
eduardovbgunz: my pc seems to be ugrading to feisty via adept now, not the dist-upgrade tool07:56
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eduardoim going to my other PC, im soulrider there07:57
vbgunzI swear something told me to wait about a week and listen for news about the upgrade woes, I was sure their would be some :P07:57
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wolferinehitmanWilly, for all, even nfs and smb mounts?07:57
eduardolol vbgunz i thought th same07:57
hitmanWillywolferine, yes, linux treats a smbfs just like any other mount07:57
vbgunzheh, aptitude seems to be downloading stuff apt-get missed OR something just got updated07:57
SkyblastAtWorkI had a feeling the upgrade would screw me up, but I did it anyway, and lo and behold i have a destroyed system ;)07:58
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vbgunzSkyblastAtWork: welcome to the club :)07:58
bluewavethis distribution update thing takes forever07:58
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wolferineto confirm my fstab settings are correct, can I restart a service?07:58
soulridervbgunz: im back :P07:58
bluewaveanyone else updating to the new release of feisty07:58
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wolferineblue, I am07:58
hitmanWillybluewave, yes, especially with the servers getting hammered like they are07:58
soulriderbluewave: thats because the repos cant handle so many people updating07:58
vbgunzaptitude almost done at 90% now, hope it don't choke07:59
SkyblastAtWorkbut it's cool. I learned from Edgy to not entirely trust upgrading, so /home (and everything else important) is on a seperate partition, so I can just do a clean install and remount all those.07:59
soulriderkubuntu should have mirrors for the repos07:59
bluewave17% here07:59
SheazscheOption "May_Need_ForceBIOS" "1"  in device07:59
soulriderin Arch i use aria2 to download my packages from more than one repo at a time07:59
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vbgunzdamn, same errors :(08:00
yasserwhy does ubuntu not have the special HP printer device manager while kubuntu has it??08:00
vbgunzpython-minimal is killing me :(08:00
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albin_how long did the upgrade with adept take for you guys?08:02
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bluewaveit's taken me like 2 hours to get 19%08:02
bluewavenot cool08:03
aroYou and everyone's grandma is trying to get it08:03
albin_:-)08:03
slicknickanyone seen this sort of behavior from rdesktop before? this is a dual monitor screenshot with an rdesktop session to a windows machine on the right side of the image. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ushbav08:03
vbgunzwell sudo aptitude upgrade seems to be upgrading packages... maybe after, I can dist-upgrade (hopefully)08:03
bluewavewhy can't everyones grandma just wait!08:03
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aroShe doesn't have much time left, and her last wish was to see Feisty in action!08:04
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stoftgg@aro08:04
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stoftI've simply decided to wait, maybe I'll start the upgrade tonight, last thing I do before I head to bed...08:05
vbgunzstoft: I think you should probably wait it out a couple days and keep track of the forums on issues08:05
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sylvisjCan I get the assitance of a cedega user?08:06
albin_well our grandmas will not make it with this speed...08:06
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vbgunzmy personal exeprience upgrading is not too cool OR just do what I did and follow the rules carefully, good luck :)08:06
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stoftvbgunz: yeah maybe... if I've waited this long...08:07
albin_thanks :-)08:07
sylvisjbah, #cedega is all but dead08:07
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monika__hi08:08
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bigdad1e_i need my subnet mask ip to manually set up my knetworkmanager bc its not working08:08
pingvenoWell, this upgrade is certainly going a bit smoother than when I was doing Gentoo upgrades....08:08
monika__adept crashed and now when I start it it says there is a lock08:08
monika__I guess I can delete some files to delete the lock08:08
monika__which ones?08:08
bluewavemonika__, no08:08
monika__bluewave, what should I do then08:09
bluewaveyou can't delete them if there's a lock, lol08:09
monika__bluewave, what are you saying?08:09
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bluewaverestart, or kill process that is locking it08:09
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sylvisjvbgunz: you had my hopes up when you joined #cedega, then promptly crushed them08:09
bluewavedelete files, lol you are a real noob08:09
monika__bluewave, how much unix experience do you have?08:09
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ForzaPalermohey guys..... i cant upgrade to fiesty fawn because its telling me i need about 300mb more of diskspace... but i wanna know what i can uninstall or take out.... i have 5gbs partitioned to kubuntu.... so i really dont know why i even need space08:10
bluewavelike, 5 years...08:10
ForzaPalermoany help is appreciated. thanks08:10
vbgunzsylvisj: heh, sorry about that I don't use it :(08:10
bluewavepress ctrl+delete08:10
monika__"<bluewave> you can't delete them if there's a lock"08:10
wolferineto confirm my fstab settings are correct, can I restart a service?08:10
monika__anybody that has a real answer?08:10
wolferineor does it take effect immediately?08:11
Jucato!adeptfix | monika__08:11
ubotumonika__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:11
npurcifulI upgrade to Feisty and i seem to have problems exec shell scripts from portable USB HDD. Has anyone had this problem or know anything about it.08:11
monika__Jucato, thank you very much08:11
lavidnpurciful: me too!08:12
lavidnpurciful: i had that problem last night. it was driving me nuts08:12
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bluewavemonika__, you can't delete locked files...08:13
npurcifulhum08:13
bluewavemonika__, what's wrong with that?08:13
monika__bluewave, for your information there is no lock file concept in unix08:13
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monika__that's a windows thing08:13
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bluewaveno?08:13
npurcifullavid: I tried reinstalling that didnt help, weird08:14
ForzaPalermoanyone?08:14
lavidnpurciful: yeah, i had the issue on a fresh install08:14
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npurcifullavid: I have been researching it but have found a solution.08:15
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DarkWizzardHello.When I'm trying to upgrade to feisty I get an error about gzip exiting with error code 108:15
DarkWizzardwhen trying to download Packages.gz08:15
ju_can someone tell me where do I have to go for a problem with my laptop touchpad on festy ?08:16
DarkWizzardkubuntu08:16
lavidnpurciful: the solution is easy, but getting it fixed by default is the goal08:16
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npurcifullavid: true08:16
what_ifI have no WM when running beryl, how do I fix / enable it08:16
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JucatoBeryl *is* the WM08:16
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DarkWizzardhas anyone experienced this error ?08:17
DarkWizzardI searched on the forums08:17
DarkWizzardbut no solution08:17
hitmanWillywhat_if, do you use nvidia?08:17
DarkWizzardand I heard that it is not advised to upgrade manually08:17
vbgunzbrb08:17
lavidwhat_if: , Jucato i think he means that his window decorations don't show up08:17
DarkWizzardand I know it's not from experience08:17
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what_ifJucato: yes, but the WM is not running, no "minimise, max, close", in upper right08:17
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janjanhey s there any one who knows the change da desktop resolution?08:17
what_ifhitmanWilly: yes, nvidia08:18
DarkWizzardjanjan: man xrandr08:18
Jucatowhat_if: install Aquamarine, then from the Beryl system tray menu, choose Aquamarine as your window decorator08:18
janjanok thanks08:18
gdiebelwolferine: just reboot.08:18
Jucatowhat_if: also... try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects08:18
hitmanWillywhat_if, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals, then restart x08:18
Elite2142_I done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-enchanted-extras and it downloaded and installed, I restarted firefox and still same error :|08:18
DarkWizzardFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:18
wolferinegdiebel, is that whats required, or just a suggestion?08:19
DarkWizzardwhat is causing this ?08:19
what_ifhitmanWilly: ok, restarting X08:20
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lavidnpurciful: i'm filing a bug report now08:21
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tarelerulzbeside the location are in Kubuntu's konqeror it has filter and I wanted to do that in my ubuntu konqeror do any of you know how to do that08:22
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hitmanWillywhat_if, how'd it go?08:23
what_ifthe nvidia-xconfig line worked... :)08:23
vicksi can't get usb to work in feisty, can someone help me? i have installed kubuntu feisty, and nothing happens when i insert usb-peripherals. i can't even install ubuntu (gnome), cause the installation hangs at the end when trying to load the usb-starage module.08:23
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what_ifhitmanWilly: works 100%08:23
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hitmanWillywhat_if, emerald (the beryl window manager) needs ARGB GLX Visuals turned on to work08:24
ForzaPalermohow could kubuntu take up almost 5gb without having installed much of anything besides the os??08:24
hitmanWillywhat_if, took me a couple hours to figure that one out :)08:24
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what_ifhitmanWilly: well I'm glad you were here, I was benging my head on the keyboard (figuretively)08:25
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what_if*banging08:25
hitmanWillywhat_if, figuratively? i do it literally like every day :)08:25
CugelQuestion: how do I enable the new desktop effects? Everything on the internet speaks about Gnome.08:25
tarelerulzYou all are running Kubuntu and if so have you ever notice that  search bar beside the main one where you can go to dirs and url08:26
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what_ifhitmanWilly: I save that for work, I administer XP machines (and an XP server)08:26
tarelerulzOf Konqeror08:26
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hitmanWillywhat_if, i feel sorry for you now...08:26
what_ifhitmanWilly: yeah, MS SQL 2000 on an XP machine == pain08:27
hitmanWillyugh08:27
what_ifhitmanWilly: beryl seems to be on "random" for the effects... oh no,no,no :)08:27
gdiebelwolferine: nothing is required after making changes to fstab. if a new mount point is added, though, you may need to restart so it can be automounted or seen by hal.08:27
frojndwhy the f** would allways close my amarok when I prees on the icon ?? here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16615/08:28
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Elite2142The plugins still dont work :|08:28
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JanK_i just closed adept_updater during update to feisty, because it hang during installation (on 10%).08:30
kalorinJanK, you're in big trouble!08:30
shinobiallright. two machines over to feisty and back functioning. think this has been the smoothest one yet.08:30
wolferinefrojnd, reinstall08:30
JanK_now i can't restart it, since it locked the apt file08:30
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Elite2142janK , i done that and had to format :|08:31
frojndwolferine: how08:31
Elite2142well that was on ubuntu and went to kubuntu so i was going to anyway08:31
tarelerulzIn Kubuntu's version of Konqeror there is  what look like search bar beside the main place where you put urls and dir searchs Do any of you know what to install to get the second search bar08:31
JanK_how to see which locks the file "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"08:31
wolferinefrojnd, are you not familiar with installing software?08:31
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frojndwoferine: I didn't installed it manually08:32
wolferinethats not what I asked though08:32
peakerI just booted Windows for the first time in ages. It sure is ugly and has much less nice Free stuff.  But it does launch firefox and other apps *instantly*, where it takes 2-5 seconds on Kubuntu :-(08:32
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kalorinpeaker I only saw instantly if it was already in memory08:33
kalorinotherwise it was about the same speed08:33
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peakerkalorin: donno, maybe, but even in memory stuff here doesn't launch as fast08:34
gdiebelwolferine: curious; why did you need to modify fstab?08:34
peakertakes 2-3 seconds to relaunch firefox, whereas it is unnoticable 0 time on Windows08:34
wolferinegdiebel, working on making my drive accesses faster08:34
CapaHI am hoping someone can help me out... I have an ATI card, I just finished installing Feisty from a LIVE CD (iso downloaded from ubuntu.com) --- install went fine, but I had to set the video mode using F4 when the LIVE CD started (I set it to 1024x768) --- but now when I boot the comp, it crashes at the splash screen -- I suspect it due to either video drivers or resolution, but xorg.conf is set to 1024x768 --- any ideas?08:34
gdiebelwolferine: your cdrom?08:34
wolferineno08:35
wolferineeverything08:35
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wolferinenautilus is taking quite a time to read my drives08:37
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wolferineso I am mainly trying to work with my smb/nfs mounts, to getting a better response time08:38
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frojndwolferine: I only now how to remove the amarok package and than install it. But not in one command to reinstall it. So if u know I would be much grateful08:38
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budKubuntu 6.06in box, can Idownload Kubuntu 7.04?08:38
wolferinefrojnd, do that, remove, reinstall08:39
weedardoes apt-get have a log so I can see which packages were removed during last upgrade?08:39
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gdiebelweedar: cat /var/log/dpkg.log08:42
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weedargdiebel: thanks! :)08:42
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frojndwhy update don't wanna to get through: I was doing update like 20 times yesterday and 10 times today: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16619/08:42
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zazasalut08:43
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weedarfrojnd: my uneducated guess is that the http://si.archive.ubuntu.com repository is down08:43
wolferine!fr  | zaza08:43
ubotuzaza: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:43
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gdiebelfrojnd: don't hammer the servers. just have a little patience08:44
frojndgdiebel: I am having patience for 30 hours now..08:44
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weedarfrojnd: you could try changing the prefix "si" to another country, I'm using no and it works fine08:44
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zerakis ubuntu and kubuntu still overloaded of all downloads and if it fails to download could that be the reason?08:45
frojndand why amarok still crashes after I reinstalled it08:45
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frojnd(I am using feisty beta)08:45
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zerakfeisty isnt beta anymore08:46
gdiebelfrojnd: for amarok crashes see #amarok08:46
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zerakit fails to update to feisty, is this due to the large demand ?08:46
zeraksince it reference to a site and direction that doesnt exist08:48
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wolferinecan I view an nfs drive, like a smb drive, in my ftpd, proftpd?08:49
zerakFailed to fetch http://bonca.hu/~rizsanyi/debian/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found08:49
zerakFailed to fetch http://bonca.hu/~rizsanyi/debian/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found08:49
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gdiebelzerak: some of the archive.ubuntu.com mirrors have become unavailable due to excessive demand for feisty. consider using a different mirror or wait until load is lessened08:50
zeraki didnt pick the mirror08:50
zerakkubuntu update did08:50
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tarelerulzany of you heard of this plugin for konqeror Folder View Filter08:51
zerakthat was what i previously asked, if it was due to all people08:51
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Eskim0what does it mean when I get this error?? "unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"08:51
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nzkwhere is the trash08:53
nzk"empty trash" doesnt work08:53
gdiebelEskim0: what does 'file -i /etc/fstab' ?08:53
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Eskim0gdiebel that is what I think it is08:53
gdiebelnzk: .local/share/Trash08:54
Eskim0gdiebel I am trying to set a partition to auto mount at starup08:54
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nzkgdiebel, not there08:55
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zerakgalebel: thanks for the info i will try again to update tomorrow08:55
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dhqfdoving: the flash in my konqueror doesnt work08:56
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atidemciao08:56
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gdiebelnzk: try: cd ~/.local/share/Trash/files08:56
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zerakreally hope they will fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108:57
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user_!ati08:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:58
dhq the flash in my konqueror doesnt work08:59
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alesan^hi, what is the best way to mount rw a ntfs partition?08:59
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gdiebel!ntfs | alesan^09:01
ubotualesan^: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:01
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alesan^!ntfs-3g09:02
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)09:02
VSpikeFiesty fails to install for me ... bails when installing grub.  Is this a known problem?09:02
VSpikeI also really hate the way the installer takes ages to load disk paritioner with no visual indication of what it is doing, apart from disabled next and back buttons...09:03
wolferinecan I get a link on how to update to Feisty?09:03
VSpikeAll that time spent figuring out how much it could shrink parititions by, when I don't want to do that.. I want a manual setup. It should ask auto or manual first IMO.09:03
wolferinei am having a really hard time with it09:03
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VSpikeThere's also a bug.. it wants to format the swap partition even if the box is not ticked to format it.09:04
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vbgunzupgrading sucks for me, it's killing my day :(09:05
VSpikeAnd when you get to the page where it says what it's about to do to your disks, if you hit back it takes you right back to the start of the partitioning tool and spends another few minutes scanning the disks09:05
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gdiebelvbgunz: consider waiting until another day to upgrade. that is _if_ your system was left in a usable state.09:07
wolferinei have the CD, but it seems it needs to connect to my repos to update09:08
wolferinewhich I am nost sure why09:08
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vbgunzgdiebel: yeah, it appears I will have to no doubt do this :(09:08
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makiwhere can i setip the dns providers09:11
wolferinemaki, for what09:12
wolferinei maybe able to help09:12
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makii have problem09:12
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makii have net09:12
wolferinereally, thats why most of us are here :)09:12
chewietoyhehe ye09:12
makibut the browsers arent working with domains09:12
vbgunzholy crap09:12
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makionly with ip09:12
wolferinewhich browser09:13
makievery09:13
vbgunzsomehow someway, ipython for Python2.5 was holding my dist-upgrade back... I uninstalled ipython and it appears I am dist-upgrading just fine :D09:13
wolferinewhich?09:13
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makikonqueror09:13
makimozila09:13
FishyIs there a workaround to get the drivers from ati homepage to install in feisty?09:13
makiopera09:13
vbgunzI'll reinstall ipython but wtf could cause this to happen?09:13
wolferineFF you mean09:13
FishyIt complains that my X version is not supported09:13
wolferineok, and what domain, all, or just one?09:13
makiyep09:13
FishyAlthough it should be09:13
makiall09:14
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wolferinethis a new install maki?09:14
makino09:14
wolferinemaki, change your settings recently?09:14
makinow stoped working09:14
makino09:14
wolferineare you sure09:14
makiyes09:14
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makii run adept09:14
wolferineand it was working before09:14
makiyep09:15
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wolferineok, well you obviously changed something09:15
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wolferineit doesnt just "stop" working all by itself09:15
makiyes09:15
makii know09:15
wolferinecatch my drift?09:15
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wolferineif you know, then you must have changed something09:15
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rohani have plain ubuntu (gnome) installed. i want to install kubuntu. i am not on linux now, so is there any way i can generate a list of packages to be downloaded ?09:16
wolferineas you were saying, you ran adept...09:16
orient2000Hi! My bottom bar on desktop use to hide automaticly and now I can not get it back. How can I get into setup? There is nothing in a systemsetting.09:16
wolferineorient2000, scroll near it09:16
wolferinemove the mouse to the bottom09:16
orient2000nothing.09:16
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wolferineorent, sure you didnt just remove it?09:17
gdiebelorient2000: try Alt+F1, this will launch kmenu09:17
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vbgunzrohan: try just installing kubuntu-desktop09:17
asmith42bThis is trivial, I know: Are there any IMers that let you do custom emoticons?09:18
wolferinesudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:18
rohanvbgunz: that's exactly what i want to do, but i need a list of packages to be downloaded with it, because i can download for free here, but ubuntu is not installed here09:18
gdiebelasmith42b: gaim09:18
rohancan someone please paste the output of 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris'09:18
wolferineno pastebin09:19
wolferineon*09:19
rohanyes ,there09:19
vbgunzrohan: I'd do it but am upgrading now09:19
rohanvbgunz: :(09:19
asmith42bgdiebel: Really? I'll have to look more closely. I haven't found that option yet.09:19
orient2000Thanks. I did fixt it in configure panel. Now it works.09:19
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wolferinehttp://pastebin.ca/45031109:19
l_rhello09:19
wolferinethere you are09:19
l_ris kubuntu ready?09:19
l_r7.04 i mean09:20
cloakableYes09:20
wolferinefeisty is out09:20
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l_reven in dvd version?09:20
wolferinecorrect09:20
rohanthanks, wolferine09:20
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wolferinerohan, np09:20
Rogueah great09:20
vbgunzrohan: well apt allowed me to do it in another session but I am told I already have the latest version of kubuntu-desktop09:20
RogueI guessed this channel and this server09:20
Roguecan anyone help me install kubuntu? I'm having difficulty with the latest version09:21
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rohanvbgunz: oh well :(09:21
pCarstenhas anyone here had success installing fop on ubuntu?09:21
gdiebelRogue: error?09:21
rohanbecause i have no way of accessing the ubuntu machine atm09:21
Roguegdiebel: http://www.imagepup.com/up/53Yj_1177096386_snapshot1.png09:21
l_rwhere is the link to the dvd version???09:21
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vbgunzwolferine: how did you get that list?09:22
zerakuhm, USB Memory Stick Booting doesnt just boot and ask you a question about installing it, right? There should be a sticky that warn about inserting it without intending to remove current OS...09:22
rohanwolferine: had you added the --print-uris ?09:22
l_rthere's only a link to dvd-torrent-thing09:22
wolferinevbgunz, which list?09:22
l_ri do not even know what a torrent is09:22
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vbgunzlist of kubuntu-desktop apps09:22
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wolferineyes, rohan, it wasnt all those09:22
RogueI want it to install on the last partition but if I click next it says "no root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu"09:22
rohanwolferine: well, because the URLS werent' printed .. strange09:22
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rockstar-althello any 1 here09:23
wolferineurls?09:24
wolferinefor what?09:24
wolferinethe repos09:24
rohanno, the package urls09:24
rohanthere was a command which prints out the package urls09:24
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rohanyes, it is "--print-uris"09:24
l_rwhy is so difficult to get links to the dvd versions through ftp? i always have to ask here as the homepage does not have direct links09:24
Roguegdiebel: any ideas?09:25
rohansudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris -y09:25
gdiebelRogue: looks like you need to set mountpoints for / and swap09:25
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rockstar-altim a newbie i need some help but havent got the time now ill leave this channel open untill i get back from work at 4.00am09:25
hendauscan anyone tell me about a good addon to download videos from youtube?09:25
wolferinel_r, torrents09:25
rohancan you check whether that command prints individual urls of .deb files, wolferine ?09:26
Roguegdiebel: what does that mean?09:26
wolferinethat was what it printed09:26
gdiebelRogue: click on sda1 , edit partition, set mount point to /09:26
l_rwolferine, only torrents?09:26
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l_rwhat are them?09:26
Rogueok09:26
wolferinel_r, google it09:26
gdiebelRogue: click on sda5, edit partition, set mount to swap09:26
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vbgunzam going to reboot, hopefully my upgrade didn't break apart :(09:26
wolferinerohan, u need the repos, use the ubuntu guide (google it)09:27
gdiebelRogue: be careful here. are those partitions blank?09:27
Rogueno I was about to ask09:27
rohanwolferine: i know ..09:27
RogueI don't want to format any of these09:27
wolferinewith proftpd, I just setup a nfs share, i can view my smb shares when connecting, but not the nfs shares ( not a permissions issue)09:27
Roguecan I not just have it install on the last fat32 partition? :(09:27
wolferinerohan, what do you want from me?09:27
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RogueI appreciate the help by the way. This is the first time I've considered installing linux.09:27
rockstar-altcan any 1 help me with this >> direct rendering: No09:28
rockstar-altOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:28
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rohanwolferine: output of the command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris -y" if it's not too inconvenient ... please check if it prints out the URLs of specific pakcages to be downloaded09:28
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gdiebelRogue: what is one first hard disk, sda?09:28
CVirusThe updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?09:29
wolferineyes, your highness09:29
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gdiebels/one/on09:29
Roguethe first hard disk is a 250GB SATA drive partitioned into 2 NTFS partitions of 50 and 200 each09:29
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Roguethe first 50 has windows on it and the 200 has data09:29
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wolferinerohan, ill pastebin, one sec09:29
wolferinehttp://pastebin.ca/45032509:30
wolferinethere you are09:30
CVirus!adept09:30
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:30
slicknickyall got a pastebin for screenshots?09:30
wolferinea pastebin?09:30
asmith42bgdiebel: gaim allows you to install custom smiley packages, but not just add new ones on the fly, with custom keystrokes, which is what I'm after.09:30
wolferineum, not sure09:30
slicknicksorry09:31
slicknickmeant tinyimg09:31
slicknickso i can show a screenshot ...09:31
gdiebelRogue: ok sorry misread the image the first time. so second disk with those fat32 partitions is up to be formatted?09:31
ubuntuhello09:31
Rogueum ideally no :/09:31
CapaHQ) I cannot boot into KDE unless I first take off "splash" during boot --- It will not go into the splash screen. What happens is, at the screen where you choose the OS to boot, as soon as it starts to load the flash screen both monitors go "No signal" and my caps lock+scroll lock keys flash until I reboot. I am using an ATI X800 --- Any help is tremendously appreciated. -- anyone?09:31
rockstar-althello can u help me plz09:31
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rohanwolferine: great ! thanks :)09:31
wolferinenp09:31
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Roguecan I do this without formatting, gdiebel?09:31
wolferineslicknick, you post it on your website :)09:31
CVirusThe updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?09:32
slicknicki dunt have no website :P09:32
slicknickanyone seen this sort of behavior from rdesktop before? this is a dual monitor screenshot with an rdesktop session to a windows machine on the right side of the image. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ushbav09:32
wolferineCVirus, kill it, open a shell, sudo ps -A09:32
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wolferinethen look for the installer's process id09:32
mkirkhello! Was anyone able to get netowrking to work with feisty on a thinkpad T40(ish)09:32
RogueI just want it to install on the last fat32 partition whilst leaving what is there alone (nothing there would have names conflicting with kubuntu's root folders)09:32
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CViruswolferine: did that already .. it's not running09:32
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wolferinethen do sudo kill -9 process_id09:32
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l_rit seems the link to the dvd "torrent" is down. could oyu confirm?09:32
CVirus!adept lock09:33
wolferineCVirus, ctrl-alt-backspace09:33
l_ri am getting mad to just doewnload a damn .iso dvd image09:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:33
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CViruswolferine: why ?09:33
wolferineto exit the wm, then log back in09:33
CViruswolferine: why ?09:33
wolferineits froze09:33
wolferinethat will kill it09:33
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gdiebelRogue: not in this case, you need at least 2 partitions to be formatted for linux. they need to use a file system called ext3. perhaps you could consolidate some of the data on those partitions and free one up. the 20gb would be enough space09:33
the-ermthe updater crashed ... It never completed what should I do?09:34
CapaHIf anyone said something directed to me I had to reboot09:34
wolferinethe-erm, try it again09:34
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Roguebah.09:34
the-ermwolferine: can't.09:34
CViruswolferine: I killed it already09:34
wolferinethe-erm, what error09:34
Rogueso I have to have some space dedicated to ext3?09:34
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wolferine<CVirus> The updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?09:34
the-ermwolferine: I started adept_updater It thinks 7.04 is installed, but never restarted.09:34
gdiebelRogue: yes you cannot use fat32 for linux09:34
Rogueoh09:35
wolferinethen I instructed you to kill it, which you were not able to do09:35
Roguedamn, I thought it could.09:35
wolferinenow you said it is, so problem solved?09:35
Rogue:(09:35
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gdiebelRogue: perhaps consolidate the files from those other partitions and free one up09:35
CViruswolferine: It locked the .deb database ... do i rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?09:35
Rogueyeah, I can delete stuff I have backed up to DVD. TV series etc09:36
Roguequestion:09:36
wolferineCVirus, not sure09:36
gdiebelRogue: you may have heard that linux supports mounting fat32, which it can, but not for its root file system09:36
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Roguehow can I see those current drives09:36
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Rogueare they under /sds/09:36
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Rogueif you can't tell I really have very little experience with this :P09:36
wolferinethe-erm, what error are you having?09:36
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CVirusthe freakin' upgrade tool crashed and left my system crappy !!!09:37
gdiebelRogue: reboot into windows and use whatever you are comfortable with to free up the space, then use windows disk management tool to delete the partition. then kubuntu will auto partition the freed space.09:37
Rogueok09:38
CVirusstupid binary distro09:38
andreaswgerman umlauts and the  isn't displayed correctly in the console (the real one ;) ) how can I change this behaviour?09:38
RogueI'd prefer that to having to use partitiontragic09:38
andreaswif I install ubuntu I see them (but not under Kubuntu)09:38
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RogueI wonder if windows will hold up long enough for me to move all my files off one partition though ;)09:39
gdiebelRogue: check the ubuntu faq on paritioning before proceeding. I would not want you to mess up your system because of my advise09:39
Rogueyeah09:39
Roguewindows has been BSODing on me all week09:39
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Rogueto be fair I think it's my RAM but kubuntu hasn't crashed yet now that I'm trying to run it in anger09:39
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Rogueso I shall give it the benefit of the doubt :P09:39
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thill2708_how do I get java applets to run in konqueror?09:39
thill2708_I keep getting told that java isn't installed, and I know it is09:40
gdiebelRogue: a good way to tell if it is ram is to do the memtest on the kubuntu cd09:40
RogueI ran memtest86+ already09:40
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RogueI know my RAM is dying :(09:40
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andreaswthill2708_: check the java settings in konqueror09:40
MinceRdo you know of window managers with focus stealing prevention other than kwin, metacity, compiz and beryl?09:40
gdiebelRogue: you mean you got errors from memtest?09:41
Rogueohhhh yeah09:41
Roguelots09:41
thill2708_andreasw; what am I looking for specifically?09:41
thill2708_java is enabled globally09:41
CVirusthe freakin' upgrade tool crashed and left my system crappy !!!09:41
gdiebelRogue: replace the ram before messing around with installing kubuntu09:41
Roguedefinitely?09:41
gdiebelRogue: trust me09:41
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andreaswthill2708_: on the same screen you see a text field where you can set the path to java executable09:41
Roguebleh but RMAing it will mean I have no PC for a week :P09:42
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wolferinencix?09:42
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RogueI want to see if I can hobble on with kubuntu for a bit :D09:42
thill2708_andreasw; thanks, that seemed to work. It said "java" before, but changing it to /usr/bin/java made it work. Wonder why?09:43
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andreaswthill2708_: when did you install java?09:43
thill2708_whenever I installed kubuntu09:44
chewietoyhow do i check verision of ubuntu that im running?09:44
andreaswthill2708_: ok ;) but did you log out and log in after installation?09:44
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ubuntuhi09:44
chewietoyhi09:44
thill2708_andreasw; Yeah, sure, plenty of times. I've been running this for ~8 mos. now09:44
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andreaswthill2708_: ok09:45
u0526385Alguien Habla espaol ?????????????????09:45
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andreaswthill2708_: for some people it works just with "java" in the field and for others have to specify the full path09:46
Roguegdiebel: can I see what files are in my FAT32 partitions from here, now?09:46
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colinihi09:47
coliniis there a torrent for kubutu 7.04 Live cd ?09:47
wolferine!sp | u052638509:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
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wolferine!eu | u052638509:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
wolferinedang09:47
wolferinewhat country code :(09:47
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wolferine!es | u052638509:47
ubotuu0526385: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:47
gdiebelRogue: sure. open a konsole. type: 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'09:48
wolferineah, there we are09:48
thill2708_anyone familiar with gotomypc?09:48
thill2708_and using it in konqueror09:48
thill2708_?09:48
wolferinethill2708_, connect problems?09:48
wolferineconnection*09:48
Roguegdiebel: can I, for the sake of argument, move files between FAT32 partitions?09:48
_Thoth_ow can i activate compiz in kubuntu ?09:48
thill2708_wolferine; well, more like can't load the applet/application in konq09:48
wolferineRogue, think you maybe need to do some reading09:49
thill2708_just hangs at "loading applet"09:49
wolferinethill2708_, k, sorry, cannot help09:49
thill2708_hah, :) thanks anyhow09:49
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Roguewolferine: haha I know :)09:49
dettoaltrimentiquestion: if I have a text file, and I want to replace every instance of one phrase with another phrase (for example, replace every <div id="green"> with <div id="blue>, is there any way I can do this from the command line without actually going into vim?09:49
gdiebelRogue: yeah check like wolferine said check the faq and read some info on linux file system handling, mount, fstab09:49
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Roguethanks09:50
colinidettoaltrimenti: you could use 'sed'09:50
ubuntufriends09:50
ubuntui need help09:50
wolferineRogue, what are you trying to setup exactly, or is it just hardware issues?09:50
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wolferineubuntu, just ask09:50
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ubuntu!mp309:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
Rogueat this very moment I want to mount my FAT32 partitions09:50
mrigns!fat3209:51
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse09:51
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thill2708_ugh, airport wireless connections are hell to sudo apt-get upgrade on09:51
Roguethanks09:51
wolferineRogue, no, over all09:51
dettoaltrimenticolini: so I should pipline something like... "cat foo.txt | sed (whatever I need to do) > foo.txt"?09:51
_Thoth_Who can help me? How can I activate Compiz un Kubuntu 7.04?09:51
wolferineactivate?09:52
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ubuntuWHich packages do i need to install in order for amarok to able to playback sounds?09:52
Daisuke_Idoaramrok can play sound already09:52
Daisuke_Idoyou mean mp3?09:52
ubuntuyes09:52
Daisuke_Ido!mp309:52
ubuntuno it cant09:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:53
ubuntui went there already09:53
ubuntulibxine1-ffmpeg09:53
ubuntudidnt work09:53
ScottLijhow do I list all hard drive partitions? (including multiple hard drives and NTFS partitions)09:53
Daisuke_Idono09:53
ubuntuso what now09:53
Daisuke_Idolibxine-extracodecs09:53
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ubuntuok thanks09:53
gdiebeldettoaltrimenti: http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt  <-- has sed oneliners that will help with your task09:53
ubuntuCouldn't find package libxine-extracodecs09:53
ubuntudoesnt work what now?09:53
wolferinewhose good with updating to Feisty?09:54
ubuntu:/09:54
slicknickive got a dual monitor setup going -- why when i run a rdesktop from terminal in GNOME it opens on the right monitor, but when i run it the exact same way in KDE it opens on the left monitor?09:54
ubuntuHELP09:54
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: you need to enable the universe repository09:54
Daisuke_Ido!universe09:54
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:54
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CugelQuestion: how do I enable the new desktop effects? Everything on the internet speaks about Gnome.09:54
wolferineCugel what exactly?09:54
gdiebel!compiz | Cugel09:55
ubotuCugel: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:55
ubuntuok09:55
ubuntuthanks Daisuke_Ido09:55
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Cugelgdiebel: thanks.09:55
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome09:55
dettoaltrimentithanks gdiebel09:55
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colinidettoaltrimenti: i'm no sed expert.  this is a good intro to sed: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sed1.html09:56
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Daisuke_Idonice thing is the repos are just about back up to speed09:56
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wolferinewho is good with updating to Feisty?09:56
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Daisuke_Idowolferine: if by "updating" you mean "trying the upgrader, waiting 5 hours, getting mad, cancelling, and installing from scratch from cd", i'm your man09:57
hitmanWillylol09:57
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Daisuke_Idoso yeah, probably not me09:57
chewietoyheh09:57
dettoaltrimentithank you very much, one more question: if I have a text file full of links to .html files, is there any way to wget download all of those html files into a certain directory?09:57
wolferineDaisuke_Ido, how do I JUST do a CD install09:58
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Daisuke_Idoeh?09:58
wolferines/install/update09:58
mkirkdettoaltrimenti: wget can recurse09:58
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wolferineas i get it connecting to the net to install packages09:58
mkirkdettoaltrimenti: for mirroring :D use it carefully09:58
hitmanWillydettoaltrimenti, maybe cat <textfile> > wget09:58
Daisuke_Idotorrent the alternate cd image and you can use it as a repo to upgrade from without worrying about downloading packages09:58
wolferineDaisuke_Ido, I tried it twice now, just keeps accessing them online09:59
Daisuke_Idoalternate cd?09:59
wolferinechange my sources.list then?09:59
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coliniis there a "live cd" for kubuntu 7.04?  i'd like to test things out before installation09:59
Daisuke_Idocolini: there certainly is09:59
wolferineDaisuke_Ido, the exact same setup as you, alter. CD09:59
Daisuke_Idowolferine: i installed from scratch from the live cd10:00
colinidaisuke_ido, thanks.  is there a torrent?10:00
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wolferinenew install, no update?10:00
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ian_hi10:00
Daisuke_Idowolferine: right10:00
ubuntuDaisuke_Ido:  i am in the adapt manager and i cant find the deb line that i need to edit and it doesnt tell me how to get there10:00
wolferinek, thats not waht I want to do10:01
ian_has another upgraded to fesity with a acer laptop ?10:01
aroI've installed fglrx drivers properly with my ATI Radeon 9800 and fglrxinfo shows proper drivers, vendors, and "direct rendering: yes". I've installed XGL and properly loaded my KDE desktop under it, but everything performs unbelievably badly. All windows and menus take 30+ seconds to open and all graphics are sluggish beyond belief.10:01
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: feisty or edgy?10:01
aroAnyone know what I can do?10:01
wolferinearo use #ubuntu-effects to ask that10:01
nutshell42wow, the 7.04 network config is still as crappy as I remembered it10:01
ubuntufeisty fawn10:01
aroThanks.10:01
ubuntubeta10:01
ubuntukubuntu10:01
wolferineubuntu google "ubuntu guide"10:01
ubuntukubuntu feisty fawn10:01
wolferineit will have all you need10:01
Daisuke_Idowhy aren't you using the final, it's released :D10:02
Daisuke_Idobut anyway10:02
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Daisuke_Idoadept > manage repositories10:02
hendaushelpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up10:02
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ubuntuDaisuke_Ido:  this is the final10:02
Daisuke_Idoah, you mentioned beta10:02
ubuntuDaisuke_Ido:  can you help me please10:02
ubuntui cant find the deb line which i need to edit10:02
Daisuke_Idonutshell42: knetworkmanager is a far cry better than the old one10:02
ubuntuthis is so confusing these tutorials10:02
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: are you in the manage repositories dialog in adept?10:02
ubuntuare flawed10:02
ubuntuadapt manager10:03
Daisuke_Idoright10:03
Daisuke_Idothe reason it's off is because adept changed versions for feisty and things are in new places10:03
Daisuke_Idoyou have a few tabs, Kubuntu Software, Third-Party Software, etc, etc, right?10:03
ubuntuyes10:04
hendaushelpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up , can anyone help10:04
ubuntui checked all boxes10:04
Daisuke_Idoon that first tab, check em all10:04
Daisuke_Idothen close10:04
ubuntunext to universe and multiverse10:04
ubuntuok10:04
Daisuke_Idothen fetch updates :)10:04
nutshell42Daisuke_Ido: is knetworkmanager that thing in the system config dialog? if that's the case I don't care if it's better than the old one. The old one didn't work, the new one doesn't; not much difference imho10:04
Daisuke_Idonutshell42: oh, oh god no10:04
Daisuke_Idono no no10:04
Daisuke_Idothe system config network manager is craptacular10:05
nutshell42the only way to get a working network config if you don't use dhcp, is to purge interfaces yourself10:05
ubuntufetch updates is greyed out Daisuke_Ido10:05
Daisuke_Ido?10:05
Daisuke_Idoclose and restart adept manager10:05
ubuntunvm got it10:05
Daisuke_Idok :)10:05
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Daisuke_Idonutshell42: knetworkmanager is actually a *good* network tool10:06
wolferinewith proftpd, I just setup a nfs share, i can view my smb shares when connecting, but not the nfs shares ( not a permissions issue)10:06
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Daisuke_Idowolferine: nfs is way over my head :D10:06
nutshell42Daisuke_Ido: if I start the config from the knetworkmanager context menu, it sure as hell *looks* exactly like the one from the system settings10:06
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ubuntuits finally working thanks Daisuke_Ido10:07
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wolferineDaisuke_Ido, its really straight forward10:07
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome10:07
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wolferinethe issues are with how they interact with other applications I need help with :)10:07
Daisuke_Idonutshell42: use whatever you like, it's about choice10:08
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nutshell42Daisuke_Ido: what *should* I like? All I want is a tool that works when I don't use dhcp10:08
nutshell42knetworkmanager doesn't10:08
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gdiebelwhy would you not use dhcp?10:08
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thefirstdudedhcp sucks10:09
lparry_busy[||-] ?10:09
pulaskihello all10:09
nutshell42gdiebel: why would I?10:09
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Daisuke_Idopersonally, i use a manual address anyway10:09
thefirstdudeit's nice to be certain what your ip is10:10
Daisuke_Idoso i never mess with dhcp10:10
nutshell42me too10:10
gdiebelnutshell42: nearly all cases where static ip addresses are useful can be fulfilled with fixed leases from a dhcp server10:10
pulaskiI just got feisty fawn 7.04 going and now I'm trying to set up a java IDE with the JRE using my firefox browser.10:10
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nutshell42gdiebel: nearly all features of an irc client can be emulated by using netcat and the correct msgs10:11
pulaskiI used adept to grab sun-java5-jdk & the sun-java5-jre10:11
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nutshell42so why do *you* use an irc client10:11
ubuntuwhats the command to view my own ip in Konsole ifconfigure isnt working10:11
Daisuke_Idoooh, ooh, i know this one!10:11
pulaskibut firefox is not loading applets cat all10:11
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: ifconfig10:11
pulaskiat all10:11
ubuntu!ip10:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:11
Daisuke_Idono ure10:11
thefirstdudenutshell, brilliant, why didn't I think of that instead of firefox10:12
pulaskikonqueror is not much better10:12
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nutshell42thefirstdude: =P10:12
gdiebelnutshell42: that analogy is not very good. one uses an irc client for convenience. likewise dhcp is more convenient than static10:12
orient2000maybe look at firefox setup10:13
hendaushelpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up , can anyone help10:13
nutshell42not if you have to mess around with an dhcp server to emulate a static setup10:13
pulaskihas anyone any experience with adept loading both the java5 jdk and jre10:13
gdiebelnutshell42: my point is what is your compelling reason to use a static ip on the box?10:13
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hitmanWillypulaski, i think there's a seperate pkg for the firefox plugin10:13
nutshell42winxp's network handling with dhcp is sh*t10:14
pulaskigood that's helpful10:14
acetoxyMy mouse pointer doesn't move fast enough, and the mouse settings doesn't change anything. Any ideas?10:14
hendaus!es10:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:14
nutshell42windows and networks get along much better with static ips10:14
pulaskiI'll look for it, thanks hitmanWilly10:14
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gdiebelnutshell42: yes that may be but networkmanager works really well10:14
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hitmanWillynp10:14
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Daisuke_Idogdiebel: here's one, a router that's insanely stupid and only does port forwarding to single ips instead of triggering, and trying to have sshd running so i can actually manage things remotely10:14
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Daisuke_Idoplus i shut down here every night with no guarantee i'll get the same ip and without the same ip, the router's settings are useless10:15
Daisuke_Idostatic ip has the advantage10:15
Daisuke_Idoeasiest way to take care of all of that10:15
gdiebelDaisuke_Ido: that insanely stupid router probably also allows fixed lease on its stupid dhcp server. you guys are just being argumentative10:15
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vbgunzI've successfully upgraded to Feisty :)10:15
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nutshell42gdiebel: which was the point of my fscking analogy10:16
nutshell42why should I mess around with a dhcp server10:16
Daisuke_Idogdiebel: i can't stand dhcp, i've had too many problems, and it's nothing that a static ip (which is a lot simpler to set up) can't solve10:16
aroAnyone have Java plugin working with Konqueror from packages?10:16
nutshell42just to emulate a static ip10:16
aroFirefox is working fine but not Konqueror10:16
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ubuntuwhat is the default root password and login in kubuntu?10:16
ubuntuwhile using the live cd10:16
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: there isn't one, you use sudo10:16
ubuntunone and the user name?10:17
ubuntukubuntu?10:17
Daisuke_Idoif you need to run a command as root, it's 'sudo command'10:17
Daisuke_Idothere's no root account period10:17
CugelWhat do you want to do, ubuntu?10:17
nutshell42aro: what's the problem, can't it find the java plugin, or does it crash?10:17
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ubuntuputty into live cd kubuntu10:17
hitmanWillyubuntu, if you absolutely have to be actual root, sudo su10:17
ubuntui need login and password10:17
aroIt just does nothing, it says "Page loaded." but where the applet is, it's just a gray box.10:17
CugelYes, but why?10:17
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: easy, username ubuntu, no password10:17
ubuntusudo su and what else?10:17
mfyzhi. my ubuntu broked after kernel update.. i have changed UUIDs to /dev/hda... and kernel not booting... i'm waiting 4-5 minutes and usplash change to some errors. error says /dev/hda2 not fount.. but grub, fstab,, all my root filesystem in /dev/hda2/// what must i do10:18
aroGuessing it can't find the plugin.10:18
Daisuke_Idothat's not root, but it's in sudoers10:18
hitmanWillyubuntu, oh nm, ssh into live cd, gotcha10:18
ubuntuyeah10:18
ubuntuubuntu isnt working10:18
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ubuntuwithout a pass10:18
Daisuke_Idothat's the username10:19
ubuntuits not working10:19
Daisuke_Idotry ubuntu as a pass, but there isn't one10:19
hitmanWillyubuntu, no pw by default10:19
Daisuke_Idois sshd installed?10:19
ubuntuok10:19
ubuntuyeah its running10:19
CugelGood.10:19
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CugelIs it me or do fonts look better with Feisty? Is it the newer X?10:19
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Daisuke_Idoi personally think they look better10:19
Daisuke_Idobut it's all opinion10:20
ubuntuits rejecting all suggestion you just gave me10:20
ubuntu:/10:20
vbgunzkmail is the slowest email app I've ever tried and yet I want to use it quite badly... just performance wise it is far tooo slow :(10:20
nutshell42aro: have you set the correct path in the java config of konqueror?10:20
ubuntuhow do i make a pass10:20
ubuntuthis isnt working10:20
Cugelvb: use Thunderbird. Yes, really.10:21
nutshell42settings->configure konqueror->java->"path to java executable"10:21
hitmanWillyubuntu, you can sudo passwd to set up a root acct w/ passwd10:21
Cugelubuntu: there's info on ubuntuguide.org10:21
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hitmanWillyubuntu, but if its a live cd you'll have to do it every single time you boot10:21
vbgunzCugel: really, yes, I use Thunderbird :)10:21
ubuntuno its in vmware10:21
ubuntui can make snapshots10:22
CugelSo why the need for kmail?10:22
hitmanWillyubuntu, ok, well, thats how you do it10:22
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vbgunzCugel: it's got some features I like out of the box, the slow performance aint one of them though10:22
ubuntu__hi all10:22
ubuntuand the account name is ubuntu10:22
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ubuntu__i have install truecrypt10:23
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ubuntuhow can i check the account name hitmanWilly?10:23
ubuntu__how can i start it. i am a newbee10:23
Sheazschehey, how come kubuntu doesnt have compiz built in but ubuntu does? wtf10:23
Sheazschedoes kubuntu not automatically install codecs too?10:23
hitmanWillyubuntu, no that'll set up a root acct with the pass you type in10:23
nutshell42ubuntu__: try alt+f210:24
hitmanWillyubuntu, to change the user passwd it'd be sudo passwd ubuntu10:24
nutshell42write truecrypt10:24
nutshell42press enter10:24
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ubuntu__where10:24
nutshell42?10:24
ubuntuubuntu i just did that10:24
ubuntuhitmanWilly: *10:24
ubuntuits still not working10:24
tresko22Sheazsche: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/10:25
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hitmanWillyubuntu, ok, you should be able to ssh in now with username:ubuntu password:<new password>10:25
schmidtnBeryl jeg har cube men den er helt blank ??10:25
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bnormanhi, what is the procedure for installing adobe flash 9 ?10:25
wolferinehow can I view the last x lines of a file in nano?10:25
Cugeltail file.10:25
hitmanWilly!de | schmidtn10:25
ubotuschmidtn: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:25
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tresko22bnorman: ./install-fla* in folder after unpack10:26
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Frost^-Hello. In konqueror I have that "Start Plugin" button whenever there is a flash animation. Can anyone tell me where can I configure it?10:26
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BadRabbit320how do i set IRc to auto identify me when i start IRC?10:26
Eskim0how does one edit the /etc/fstab10:26
nutshell42Frost^-: in the konqueror config->plugins10:26
tresko22BadRabbit320: which client?10:27
ubuntuhitmanWilly: thanks that did the trick10:27
hitmanWillyubuntu, ok, cool10:27
Frost^-nutshell42: What's it called?10:27
tresko22Eskim0: sudo vi /etc/fstab10:27
BadRabbit320konversation10:27
nutshell42Frost^-: there's a checkbox "load plugins on demand" or something like that10:27
Eskim0tresko22 thank you I will tryit10:27
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tresko22Eskim0: alt:  sudo kate /etc/fstab10:28
Frost^-nutshell42: Oh, so it's a konqueror thing? Not something kubuntu-ish?10:28
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nutshell42Frost^-: well, I just looked in the dialog here, and it's off by default10:28
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Frost^-Ok nutshell42. Thanks.10:28
tresko22Eskim0: alt3: in shell, sudo konqueror, and you can edit all files :)10:28
nutshell42so, if you've reused your ~, it's probably an old setting10:28
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nutshell42but the setting itself is a new konqi feature10:29
Sheazschehow come i dont need http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php when using UBUNTU feisty? wtf10:29
nutshell42=)10:29
Sheazschewhy only kubuntu?10:29
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Daisuke_Idowonder if the dev of nicotine+ plans on releasing a fesity package10:30
arthur_kalmhi everyone, I just installed 7.04 and I'm trying to use the nVidia drivers. However, after install nvidia-glx-new and setting xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver, I get the following error: (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)10:30
arthur_kalmI have an nVidia 8800 GTS10:30
Eskim0Tresko22 that is what I was going to ask next you beet me to it thax10:31
arthur_kalmI searched on Google and the ubuntuforums but I couldn't find any solutions, just mentions of the problem...10:31
kalorinI have an ati x700 that works, want to trade? :)10:31
kalorinsorry no idea wiht nvidia yet, want to get one though10:31
hitmanWillyarthur_kalm, it might just be a bug10:32
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: look in the xorg.conf's modules section to see if there's a mention of that module in there10:32
arthur_kalmkalorin: hehe very fun ;)10:32
nutshell42arthur_kalm: have you tried removing the nvidia packages10:32
nutshell42and installing it with the official installer from the nvidia site?10:32
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: I've looked, that module isn't even being loaded o_O10:32
hitmanWillythat's a major pita on ubuntu10:32
arthur_kalmhitmanWilly: perhaps...10:32
kalorini've got a quadra at work on 6.10 and it has been kind of difficult, my buddy just got it workin on his workstaiton today10:32
Daisuke_Idonutshell42: it's provided as a package for a reason (to make kernel module updates easier)10:32
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arthur_kalmnutshelll42: not yet, I'm not exactly sure how you remove them afterwards...10:33
nutshell42Daisuke_Ido: that's fine as long as they work10:33
Daisuke_Idoit's a headache using the nvidia installer10:33
arthur_kalmnutshell42: back in Edgy (couple of hours ago) I was using the ones fromt he website10:33
nutshell42arthur_kalm: apt-get remove10:33
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Daisuke_Idonutshell42: apt-get remove won't remove the ones installed from nvidia's site10:33
arthur_kalmnutshell42: oh wait, that's right, it installes it as a package :)10:33
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Daisuke_Idoah ha10:33
nutshell42Daisuke_Ido: the installer works fine10:33
Daisuke_Idoi see :)10:33
hitmanWillyarthur_kalm, did you upgrade or fresh install10:34
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: no I think it does :P10:34
arthur_kalmhitmanWilly: fresh10:34
Daisuke_Idonutshell42: oh, i know it works, and works great10:34
arthur_kalmnutshell42: I forgot :P I'll give it a try in a sec10:34
bolbitHi all,10:34
bolbiti want to test compiz under KDE.10:34
bolbitbut how do i start compiz10:34
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hitmanWillyhmm, the installer ones conflict with the official pkgs, but i guess that's not the prob then...10:34
nutshell42=)10:34
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: it's funny, for some reason the default Ubuntu suggested package is nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new, while the kernel module requires nvidia-glx-new :P10:35
Daisuke_Idoand PROBABLY won't be as big a deal now that the fesity kernel's stabilized.  using the installer from nvidia's site while running the beta actually made me scream with frustration when i had to recompile the kernel module every other day10:35
hitmanWillylol10:35
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: hehe that's why I wait for the official release ;)10:35
kalorinman, video drivers in general under *ubuntu is a pain10:35
kalorinfrom what I've found with my ATI10:35
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: but thanx to people liek you who test it :P10:35
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: i'm using the nvidia-glx in feisty (which is 96something), and works great10:35
kaloringranted ATI doesn't have a great reputation10:36
hitmanWillywell, ati under nix is a pita, period10:36
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: 8800 GTS requires the latest drivers10:36
Daisuke_Idokalorin: ati hates their customers, nvidia's much better10:36
kalorinheh10:36
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: true10:36
kalorinsomeday I'll get an nvidia care10:36
kalorincard10:36
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kalorinbut even my quadra at work is a PITA to get working10:36
arthur_kalmkalorin: really? my laptop with an x1400 works great10:36
Daisuke_Idonvidia's still not perfect though.  if they open source their drivers, i'm all over that10:36
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Rogueguys thanks for the help I may see you again10:36
Dumahenhow can i reach the shared files on network by consol10:36
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arthur_kalmok i'll give it a try guys10:37
Daisuke_IdoRogue: i have no clue who you are, but have fun!10:37
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kalorinkeep getting this deal where it boots up, runs fine, then if you restart the xserver or log out to a command line, it errors trying to go back in because of a kernel module mismatch10:37
kalorinit's bizarre10:37
stefan__I do not have sound on my laptop10:37
stefan__any ideas?10:37
arthur_kalmbrb10:37
Daisuke_Idocheck the volume?10:37
Daisuke_Ido...sorry10:37
stefan__100%10:37
Daisuke_Idostart from simple problems first :)10:37
kalorinarthur, I'm running dual head on one card10:37
Dumahenok how can i reach the network on konsol ?10:37
stefan__ok10:37
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kalorinDumahen: that question does not compute, konsol is not a network application10:38
Daisuke_Idoi actually ahve no idea, the laptop i own is so old it actually has a manual volume knob10:38
kalorinDumahen: do you mean via some service like ftp or http?10:38
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stefan__ok10:38
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stefan__kalorin: volume10:39
Dumahenno there r some files on my laptop and i need them on konsol but i cant reach them on konsol :(10:39
stefan__kalorin: sound10:39
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stefan__!sound10:39
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:39
stefan__ok10:39
stefan__great!10:39
stefan__ty ubotu10:39
stefan__:)10:39
Dumahenkalorin: ??10:39
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kalorinDumahen: are you running konsole on the laptop?10:40
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Dumahenmy desktop is linux and laptop is winxp10:40
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acetoxyIs it just me, or is SSH extremley slow in feisty?10:41
kalorinDumahen: ok, so you need to make a samba connection either from the laptop to the desktop or from the desktop to the laptop10:41
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kalorinare they shared on the laptop?10:41
Dumahen!samba10:41
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:41
Dumahenthnx kalorin10:41
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kalorinif so you should be able to use the smbclient, but if your'e running kubutnu you can likely just use the littel default dropdown for remote places10:41
Iwonder|tooopenssh windows is cool to allow scp trnsfers from windows to linux10:41
kalorinand browse to it10:42
thefirstdudeso I haev a program.deb file, how to install?10:42
kalorinIwonder|too: another possibility10:42
kalorindpkg10:42
hitmanWillythefirstdude, sudo dpkg -i <deb file name>10:42
acetoxyIt takes about 5 seconds to login10:43
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arthur_kalm:(10:43
Sheazschewhy is google earth automatically in Ubuntu's repos, but not kubuntu's? what is going on?10:43
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vbgunzI no longer /dev/hda1 ... how do I find it?10:43
vbgunzI mean what ever the new name is?10:44
wolferinevb cd /dev/hda110:44
hitmanWillyvbgunz, its under sda now10:44
wolferineoh, cd /media/hda1 ?10:44
vbgunzsda?10:44
wolferineor sda10:44
vbgunzok10:44
arthur_kalmOK so I'm trying the official nVidia drivers, and for some reason it's complaining that the kernel modules are not the same version as the X modules o-O10:44
vbgunzI'll check10:44
hitmanWillyvbgunz, the new kernel reads EVERYTHING as sd10:44
arthur_kalmbut when I was using nvidia-glx-new (same version as the latest nVidia one), that wasn't the complaint10:44
arthur_kalmhuh?10:44
vbgunzhmm, I do not have /dev/sd (tab) :(10:45
Sheazschewhy is google earth automatically in Ubuntu's repos, but not kubuntu's? what is going on?10:45
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: that happens, you'll have to compile a new kernel module (the installer does it)10:45
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arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: it did..10:45
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: but it seems to have not registered it?10:45
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arthur_kalmii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu710:46
arthur_kalmthat's what I have10:46
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arthur_kalmif I try to remove it I get a bunch of broken dependencies...10:46
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: you're installing via nvidia's installer?10:46
ubuntuhello i added a share folder in vmare where can i find it back in kubuntu?10:46
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: yes10:46
arthur_kalmSheazsche: why don't you just use the Ubuntu repos then?10:47
Daisuke_Idodefinitely weird10:47
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arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: yeah :(10:47
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arthur_kalmso I'm not sure if I should remove nvidia-kernel-common10:47
arthur_kalmit says10:47
arthur_kalmRemove the following packages:10:47
arthur_kalmlinux-generic10:47
arthur_kalmlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic10:47
arthur_kalmlinux-restricted-modules-generic10:47
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Daisuke_Idowhoa, no10:47
arthur_kalm:P10:47
arthur_kalmyeah10:47
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lupulhi there. can i do anything to show in gaim which music i'm listening to?10:48
lupulwothout typing it of course :D10:48
lupul*without10:48
razAnyone know why a aptitude dist-upgrade would tell me that 66 packages I have are unused and need to be removed?10:48
arthur_kalmlupul: not sure about gaim but I know Kopete has such a plugin10:48
razer, 55. Same principle, though10:49
lupulyes i know10:49
Daisuke_Idoraz: because they're not used anymore10:49
fdovingraz: because they were installed as dependecies to other packages.10:49
razDaisuke_Ido:  they are10:49
lupulbut kopete dies suddently after starting10:49
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Daisuke_Idoeither replaced, or renamed10:49
Daisuke_Idofdoving's note too10:49
razwell, how can I find out what they're missing?10:49
lupuland it doesn't show pictures of my buddies10:49
arthur_kalmlupul: oh...10:49
razI think something may have been damaged10:49
Daisuke_Idoraz: apt is pretty good about that10:49
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razwell, I'm not familiar with all the commands yet10:50
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arthur_kalmlupul: which protocol?10:50
Daisuke_Idoif it says it's safe to remove them, chances are it's safe to remove them10:50
lupulyahoo10:50
razI do not want to remove them10:50
razbecause I use them10:50
razLike I said, something is damaged10:50
arthur_kalmlupul: oh... hmm not sure :( sorry10:50
fdovingraz: then you can tag them as not autoinstalled.10:50
razhow can I repair whatever dependencies they need?10:50
lupulthanks anyway10:50
kalorinkopete >>>10:50
fdovingraz: check out 'apt-mark'10:50
lupulsudo apt-get install -f10:50
arthur_kalmbah, so does anyone know how I can get around this difference in versions?10:51
fdovingraz: 'sudo apt-mark unmarkauto <list of packages you want to keep>'10:51
razgetting apt errors10:51
Sheazschefor some reason i always have to open adept manager twice because it does not ask me for a password the first time... wtf?10:51
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razdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable10:51
arthur_kalmstupid kernel modules never complained when I used nvidia-glx-nwe10:51
arthur_kalm*new10:51
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razI think that an install got killed halfway through or something and damaged the script placeholders and a package10:51
kalorinraz, got a backup10:52
kalorin?10:52
razer, of my entire drive?10:52
razno10:52
kalorinseems like it should do a backup every time before it does any installs10:52
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kalorinand then it can be rolled back if the operation doesn't successfully complete10:52
pnutbttrhello, i cant get adept to start, it says its beeing used already, i dont see anything in the process10:52
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intelikey!adaptcrash | pnutbttr10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
arthur_kalmpnutbttr: do you have aptitude running in a termal?10:53
intelikey!adaptcrashfix | pnutbttr10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
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intelikeywell poo  it's there some where10:53
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intelikey!adapt-crash | pnutbttr10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adapt-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
intelikeynm  i give up10:53
gdiebel!adept-crash | pnutbttr10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
pnutbttrhaha, whats wrong with ubotu10:54
LjL!adept crash fix10:54
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:54
kalorinhow about !apt-crash10:54
Sheazschefor some reason i always have to open adept manager twice because it does not ask me for a password the first time... wtf?10:54
LjLnothing's wrong with ubotu10:54
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kalorin!apt-crash10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
kalorin!apt-get crash10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-get crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
kalorinhrms..10:54
dogHi !10:54
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kalorinsup dog!10:54
kalorin(always wanted to say that)10:55
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Black_Catdog, miaow.10:55
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dogHow are you   ??10:55
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sstchurI just got a new monitor, but I"m having trouble figuring out how to tell KDE to up the resolution.  I'm in monitor and display settings, but it doens't list the resolution I want10:57
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Sheazschehey for some reason in debian based distros i only get 800 fps with intel 915gm and the i810 driver, but with mandriva i get 1300fps in glxgears. ANy idea why?10:57
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stefan__I get a Not enabled in config for the sound driver in SOund Kinfo center10:58
stefan__where do I find config?10:58
stefan__to enable the driver?10:58
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darkstaownhey :o10:59
intelikey!sound | stefan__10:59
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ubotustefan__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:59
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calamarihi10:59
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intelikeyhey hey i spelled one right.10:59
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darkstaownAnyone has an idea of an app that could run some win32 softwares like ventrilo^10:59
Cugeldark: wine11:00
darkstaownI heard it wasnt free11:00
darkstaownIt is^11:00
darkstaownGoddamn questionmark isnt working :)11:00
calamariI cannot print to my printer from Firefox, only to PostScript/default.  Is anyone able to print from FireFox?  What did you do to get it working?11:00
stefan__the damn page is not loading11:00
stefan__oh well11:00
stefan__let me look11:00
stefan__thanks intelikey!11:00
compilerwriterIs it just me or am I really experiencing a massive kde slowdown since the upgrade?11:01
pnutbttri am using this solution "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" and now all the downloads adept made today for the upgrade are gone, interesting....11:01
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intelikeycompilerwriter nah it's gendii's imagenation11:02
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compilerwritergendii's imagination?11:02
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ToydHello11:03
intelikey:)11:03
Toydmay i ask a question11:03
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Toydhow do i run KsysGuard and Konversation from Konsole?11:03
Toydwhat are the proper commands11:03
Toydi need it for putty11:03
Sheazschejust type ksysguard11:03
Sheazscheit launches11:03
JohnFluxToyd: ksysguard   and konversation11:03
Toydi did didnt work11:04
Sheazscheoh11:04
Toydamarokapp works for amarok11:04
sstchurANyone know why I can't get into administrator mode anymore?  In KDE System Systems, I click the Administrator mode button, and the window lights up with a red border, but it doesn't prompt me for a password anymore11:04
JohnFluxToyd: what didn't work :-)11:04
Toydshould i append app to it?11:04
calamarigot it!  I guess it wasn't selected as the default printer11:04
Toydi tried your suggestions already11:04
Toydand it failed11:04
calamarithere was no default at all.. which is kinda weird11:04
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JohnFluxToyd: how did it fail11:04
intelikeyToyd what error message ?11:04
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JohnFluxToyd: what's the error11:04
Toydi got a bash11:04
intelikeyToyd what error message ?11:05
compilerwriter!ask Toyd11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask toyd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
Toyd-bash: KSysGuard: command not found11:05
compilerwriter!ask | Toyd11:05
ubotuToyd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:05
JohnFluxToyd: I said type  ksysguard11:05
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Toydsmall letters11:05
JohnFluxToyd: not KSysGuard11:05
kalorintoyd, you likely have to tell ssh to forward X packets and run an xserver on your end and allow the client apps to display to the local box11:06
Toydwhy small letters11:06
CViruswhat does sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock do ?11:06
Toydit shouldnt matter11:06
=== Kite_DH lol
Toydok sorry11:06
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JohnFluxToyd: on unix it matters11:06
JohnFluxToyd: linux = unix11:06
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kikkomanHello, I've been trying to compile the UnrealIRCd, and when I do that, it says the gcc compiler cannot create executables. How am I to fix this?11:06
intelikeyToyd shouldn't matter ?   hah  windows users are all alike.11:06
gdiebelSheazsche: are resolution/bit depth the same?11:06
Sheazscheyes11:06
fdovingCVirus: checks what's using /var/lib/dpkg/lock , show you what it its, then ask you to kill it or not.11:06
kalorinintelikey: heh11:06
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louieb39cHello does anyone know what is on the Kubuntu DVD vs the CD?11:07
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Toydintelikey,  on the far side of my cube 2x 90 degrees spins left or right kubuntu is running11:07
CVirusfdoving: I rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock to remove the lock ... is it safe ?11:07
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Russelhiho11:07
Toydso i am not just a windows user11:07
fdovinglouieb39c: more programs. more or less.11:07
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kikkomanThe Kubuntu DVD has the Live version and the text version, I believe11:07
kikkomanBut not certain >.>;11:07
Toydkikkoman,  i know you11:07
louieb39cAh thanks. I couldn't find that on the main site...11:07
kalorinJohnFlux: that's not rude, he's right, they don't have options or case sensitivity there, and the desktops all look the same11:07
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intelikeyToyd big wooopeeee11:07
Toydi am Fuji-san11:07
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Russeli have a workstation with feisty and if i click on shutdown and suspend only the screen is locked, what could be wrong?11:07
Toyd;p11:07
kikkoman:O11:07
ober0neanybody really good with the terminal?11:07
kalorinJohnFlux: they are all alike, like clones11:07
fdovingCVirus: you'll get some confused prorgrams. so i don't recommend it.11:07
Toydi forgot how i know you11:07
Toydkikkoman,11:08
Toydare you in aar also on rizon?11:08
sound_fxI just upgraded to feisty, and my screen refresh does not appear to be correct, what should I do?11:08
kikkomanNot at the moment11:08
Toydmacspeak?11:08
compilerwritertoyd in *nix the entire system is case sensitive.  You can have a file named fubar, Fubar, fubaR, fUbar, fuBar, and so on and they are all seperate files.11:08
louieb39cask the question oberOne - don't ask to ask a question11:08
JohnFluxToyd: they make soysauce11:08
Toydoh ok11:08
Toydlol11:08
ober0nelol11:08
kikkoman>.>; How do I set permissions for the gcc compiler11:08
kikkomanIt says it can't create executables11:08
Toydcompilerwriter,  thats to confusing for me i am just a winderz user heh ;p11:08
fdovingkikkoman: you need to install the 'build-essential' package.11:09
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Toydi use GNU apps on windows though11:09
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ober0neI'm stuck... I tried to graphically add a repository, but it won't accept it, says there's an error, and it won't let me open adept or edit sources.list manually11:09
compilerwriterJohnFlux now don't be so hare on intelikey.  He hasn't had his ration for the day.11:09
intelikeyToyd bottom line, in *nix every key is unique.  T != t != [left-alt] T != [right-alt] T   and so forth.11:09
kikkomanfdoving: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?11:09
rich__Hello, trying to upgrade Edgy->Feisty, followed instructions ("click next to close Adept package manager and start the kubuntu dist. upgrade tool") but nothing happens when I clicked Next. any help?11:09
Toydintelikey,  gotcha thanks again11:09
louieb39cOberOne - error?11:09
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fdovingkikkoman: yes, or find build-essential in adept.11:09
ober0neerm... hold on I'll do it again so I can tell you exactly11:09
kikkomanfdoving: Ok, thanks11:10
intelikeyfor the sake of "sane typing" both shift keys are treeted the same.11:10
kalorinintelikey: heh11:10
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JohnFluxToyd: have you tried running  ksysguard  yet?11:10
JohnFluxkikkoman: what's the error specifically?11:10
JohnFluxkikkoman: yes11:10
JohnFluxintelikey:  and  t  11:10
JohnFluxintelikey:  :-)11:10
Toydyes it works thanks JohnFlux11:10
kikkomanerror: gcc: c compiler cannot create executables11:10
compilerwriterintelikey unless you happened to have remapped them for some reason.11:10
xstAfter upgrading to feisty the sound on my audiophile 2496 sound card is in slow motion. What to do?11:10
Toydi am running it via putty and xming11:10
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intelikeykalorin but they do send different code when pressed...11:11
kikkomanSomething to that extent >.>;11:11
intelikeycompilerwriter yes11:11
ober0nein the terminal, it says: E: type 'ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu' is not known on line 1 in sources list11:11
kalorinxst, relax and slow down11:11
JohnFluxkikkoman: did you install build-essential?11:11
kalorinxst it's trying to tell you something :)11:11
kikkomanJohnFlux: Not yet, but I'm doing that as we speak11:11
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Toydkikkoman,  did you built a hackintosh?11:11
xstDamn, I knew it :-)11:11
Toyd:-011:11
Kikkomanwhat11:11
xstBut besides that - any ideas?11:11
Toydlol nvm11:11
Kikkomano_O11:11
Toydjk11:11
Toyd;p11:11
Toyd(>".)>11:11
kalorinxst, hrms...11:11
louieb39cgive me one sec uber11:11
ober0nesure11:12
JohnFluxxst: tried google?11:12
kalorinxst, sound is one of those things that I don't play iwth much, it just works for me11:12
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kalorinnever have to fix that which doesn't break11:12
kalorinsounds like an interupt issue maybe?11:12
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compilerwriterGood for  you toyd I always login to my 'healess' *nix box via xming and putty.11:12
kalorinis your whole system slower?11:12
kalorinor just sound11:12
ober0neI know I can edit the sources list in terminal, but using Kate, I need root permission11:12
louieb39chttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:12
ober0nebut I don't know how to edit it in termnial11:12
ober0newell, the problem now is how to remove that11:13
louieb39cthat should help11:13
kalorinober0ne: sudo kate <filename?11:13
ober0neyeh? that works?11:13
compilerwriterNow could someone please tell me why the devil my screen just froze and my background picture just dissappeared?11:13
kalorinif X is running it will11:13
JohnFluxober0ne: press alt-f2   then type  kdesu  kate11:13
ober0nex... I'm a noob11:13
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compilerwriterToyd have you gotten xming to cooperate with ssh?11:13
intelikeyxst did you have to use special drivers for the sound card ?11:13
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compilerwriterHave you enabled ssh on your computers x-server.11:13
kalorinok laters folks11:13
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louieb39cwell noobs are welcome here as long as they are willing to learn11:14
ober0nelol, always willing to learn11:14
Toyddont know compilerwriter  i think so its working11:14
ober0neI finally got fed up with windows after vista ate my system11:14
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xstintelikey: ICE1712 I think it is11:14
Toydi get amarok in an aero window11:14
Toydon vista11:14
Toydthats what i wanted lol11:15
ober0nelol11:15
xstintelikey: But it worked perfectly in edgy11:15
louieb39cHAHA I am only 16 and I have made LOTS of money off of fed up Vista users..End of MS's reign?11:15
Toyd:p11:15
ober0neI hated vista... someone once said that if you put sparkles on a turd, it's still just a piece of crap11:15
Toydnoway dude11:15
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Toydvista has bling bling11:15
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louieb39cHAHA I like that11:15
intelikeyxst was just wondering,  cause if you had to install a driver  you will probably have to rebuild it for the newer kernel11:15
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Toyddirectx 10 is the only reason why i am using vista even though its non-existing atm11:15
Toydcrysis will be great11:16
louieb39cUbuntu Alfa tests are more stable than VIsta11:16
ober0neok, so I tried the kdesu, but it says it can't open it11:16
louieb39cdid you try that kink?11:16
ober0nenow it wants to open it under samba11:16
louieb39clink*11:16
glyDoes anyone know where I could find any of the feisty herd-releases?11:16
wsjuniorhow do i open that katapult configuration window?11:16
romalehi everybody!11:17
Toydlol amarok is a cpu eater11:17
Toyddamn11:17
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louieb39cHoly I didn't expect a newly released torrent to Kubuntu would be downloading at 5Kbps11:17
romalei'm having trouble upgrading edy to feisty11:17
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louieb39csudo apt-get dist-upgrade?11:18
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romalewhen i update using adept, a window invite me to upgrade11:18
romalei click on next, next then finish11:18
ober0ne*sigh* I love kubuntu, but it's being quite annoying11:18
romalethen *NOTHING*11:18
romaleadept should have be closed, and i think the upgrade should have start11:19
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louieb39cRomale try sudo apt-get update11:19
louieb39csudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:19
wizarschoenen guten abend11:19
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rich__romale: same here, I'm trying clicking the Full Upgrade button, seems to be doing the right thing.11:20
romalewhat about the graphical dist-upgrade tool ?11:20
PandyMxcan somebody tell me how should i open a zip file please?11:20
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ober0neha! louie, I love you11:20
romaleis there a bug or something?11:20
louieb39ceh the way I see it is, when all else fails..do it the old fashioned way11:20
louieb39clol why?11:20
compilerwriterToyd are the machines you are using on the same network?11:20
louieb39cOber - all good?11:20
intelikeyxst sound (alsa or oss) is kernel side code  not userland applications   arts (the default kde sound engine) is a userland app that simply facilitates gongruent sounds on the alsa device.    so you can test in a console (not an X terminal, real tty) and see if alsa is at fault, if so kernel module; and or module args.    if sound works from the console then it's arts; work on kde's sound system setting11:20
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ober0newell, I have a problem with attention to detail... if only I had read just a little further, I would have found the solution11:21
ober0ne:p11:21
Black_CatPandyMx, sudo apt-get install unzip11:21
Toydcompilerwriter, no11:21
wolferineanyone experienced with proftpd, I am trying to share a folder within my FTP root folder11:21
Toydcompilerwriter,  i am doing it all on the same pc11:21
Toydlmao11:21
Toyd;/11:21
romaleis running "update" and "upgrade" with apt enough to update to feisty?11:21
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Toydlubuntu is running in vmware11:21
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Toydkubuntu*11:21
compilerwriterI see.11:21
ober0neack... pc speaker keeps beeping11:21
Toydlol11:21
louieb39cRomale I think you want dist-upgrade11:22
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bigdad1eis there a curtain verson of kubuntu for laptops?11:22
Toydcompilerwriter,  with 2 pcs it would be better11:22
thefirstdudeyoyu know what sucks, I can't get any packages...11:22
intelikeybigdad1e no11:22
compilerwriterMuch better.11:22
Toydi know11:22
thefirstdudedoe anyone know of alternative repositories that I can use?11:22
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bigdad1eok just making sure thanks11:22
compilerwriterIt would be much better toyd with two seperate pcs.11:22
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Toydyeah11:22
compilerwriterWhen you get that kind of setup don't buy a kvm switch.11:23
Toydi was just testing to see if it'd work11:23
Toydfirst11:23
Toydlol11:23
compilerwriterYou can use xming and XDMCP for that.11:23
Toydok11:23
intelikeyober0ne sounds like "upstart" trying to do something wrongly.11:23
glyIf someone around here happens to have the amd64 iso of feisty herd-4 somewhere I'd be _very_ happy if I could get a copy.11:23
romaleok, i'm trying "apt-get dist-upgrade"11:23
louieb39csudo11:23
louieb39csudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:24
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intelikey!root11:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:24
kalorin`REWT!11:24
blueyedgly: do you want to test regressions?11:24
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CVirus!desktop effects11:24
blueyed(I don't have it, sorry)11:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:24
CVirus!beryl11:24
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:24
glyblueyed: The kernel in later versions won't boot on my laptop :(11:24
xstintelikey: When playing with aplay it says: <mp3-name> Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono    - this seems quite wrong11:25
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glyand the images has disappeared from the ubuntu.com and mirrors11:25
blueyedgly: herd 4 is quite old, isn't it? How does it not boot? Have you filed a bug at launchpad.net?11:25
ober0nelouie, ever heard of automatix?11:25
intelikeyxst never test sound with propritary formats  or even compressed free formats11:25
louieb39coper - love it11:25
ober0neyeah11:25
louieb39cfantastic app11:25
wsjuniorKatapult isnt in systray by default, how can i configure it?11:26
ober0neso what exactly does it do?11:26
wsjuniorI would like to open its configuration window..11:26
wolferineanyone experienced with proftpd, I am trying to share a folder within my FTP root folder11:26
intelikeyxst find an .au   or even a .wav is you must.11:26
ober0neI know people that use linux everyday, and they tell me to use automatix, but won't tell me what it does11:26
louieb39cits a GUI based script that allows you to pick things like mp3 codecs and flash out of a list and it installs them for you11:26
ober0ne:o11:26
ober0neLOVE THAT!11:26
louieb39cvery simple11:26
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louieb39cyea I think it should be for all distros11:26
ober0neso basically it changes the you over from adept?11:27
JohnFluxlouieb39c: it also breaks things :-)11:27
intelikey!automatix | ober0ne11:27
ubotuober0ne: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:27
JohnFluxlouieb39c: it should me mostly unneeded now11:27
louieb39cI have never experienced that11:27
JohnFluxs/me/be/11:27
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CVirus!compiz11:27
JohnFlux!worksforme11:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:27
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.11:27
whytheamDoes anyone know how to mount a harddrive in 7.411:27
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JohnFluxlouieb39c: ^^11:27
CVirusIsn't there a desktop effects manager in kubuntu as the one shipped with ubuntu ?11:28
intelikeywhytheam why would mounting be different in 7.4 ?11:28
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sstchurHelp!  I got a new monitor, but I can't for the life of me, get KDE to bump the resolution up to what the monitor is capable of11:28
ubuntuwow11:28
ober0nelol, well I just installed kubuntu today (again), and don't have anything really important on it yet11:28
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wolferinewhytheam, mount?11:28
ubuntukonversation in windows aero :p11:28
ubuntukewl11:28
ober0neso if it screws it up, I'll reinstall11:28
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blueyedsstchur: maybe you need to adjust /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions there.11:28
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louieb39cwell oper I have been using it for some time with no issues11:29
sstchurblueyed: I tried that... I made things worse... now I"m ay 800x60011:29
arthur_kalmhey umm does anyone know how to remove the official nVidia driver. I downloaded it and installed it on my system but I have no idea how to remove it now... I want to try a work around with the ubuntu drivers but I think I should remove the nvidia ones first...11:29
louieb39cI really wish there was VIrtualbox for x64 :(11:29
sstchurblueyed: do you know what happened to xorgconfig?  I swear I used to run something like that where I could specify resolutions and what not11:29
bobbicati'm looking for general advice for the new feisty release11:29
ober0nebut, if automatix works, (and I know this issue has been beaten to death) I can get my mp3 and xvid codecs, right?11:29
wolferinearthur_kalm, why do you want to remove it?11:29
whytheamI just updated today and the 80 gig I had is gone missing11:29
dennisterhey all...having some trouble with copying large files...process keeps quitting unexpectedly, and I don't know what to troubleshoot?11:29
JohnFluxsstchur: you could try backing up the file, then do:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:30
louieb39cyes ober11:30
ober0ne^_^11:30
JohnFluxsstchur: backing up /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:30
CVirusIsn't there a desktop effects manager in kubuntu as the one shipped with ubuntu ?11:30
ober0nelife is very, very good right now11:30
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intelikeysstchur ubuntu has never used xorgconfig11:30
louieb39cober don't say that until things are installed!11:30
JohnFluxCVirus: you can use the same manager11:30
ober0nenow, if automatix DOESN'T work, what else can I try? I'm horrible with terminal11:30
bobbicatcan i use the live cd to upgrade edgy 6.10 to feisty 7.04?11:30
glyblueyed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10741711:30
sstchurintelikey: ok...i'm looking at the FixYourResolutionHowTo now11:30
intelikeysstchur it's always been dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:30
arthur_kalmwolferine: found how to uninstall it, --uninstall switch11:31
louieb39cthat site I gave you - look at it - it helps a lot11:31
ober0neyeh?11:31
photonCVirus: You have to download it from Adept Manager11:31
arthur_kalmand i want to uninstall it b/c I want to use the driver in the repo11:31
ober0neI bookmarked it :p11:31
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wolferinecool11:31
CVirusJohnFlux: photon: it depends on many packages related to gnome !11:31
JohnFluxCVirus: are you talking about beryl?11:31
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louieb39chopefully they will add some stuff to it since 7.04 is just out11:32
bobbicati have a network don't want to update each pc over the net can i use live cd?11:32
photonDesktop Effects use Compiz11:32
ober0nebloody helll... I'm using sudo apt-get update, and it's showing me updates I'm certain I already have11:32
louieb39cthe other versions have a lot more material11:32
ober0neis that common?11:32
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intelikeylet me take that back.   i came to ubuntu after warty wallowed  so i can speak for the first release, but form hoary on it has been11:32
CVirusJohnFlux: no .. about desktop-effects package11:32
JohnFluxober0ne: maybe they updated since you last updated :-)11:32
ober0nein half an hour?11:32
louieb39clol11:32
Daisuke_IdoupDATE is just getting the package lists.11:32
JohnFluxober0ne: :-)11:32
louieb39chmn that's news to me11:32
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JohnFluxober0ne: oh, like Daisuke_Ido says, do you mean update or upgrade?11:33
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ober0neupdates11:33
Daisuke_Idowhich reminds me, i'm running the upgrade tool on the SO's lappy11:33
intelikeylouieb39c add stuff to a release.... not likely11:33
whytheamIt asks for the file system and I am a noob and really don't know waht to put. I used this guide http://www.smorgasbord.net/book/export/html/19511:33
louieb39cintelikey..?11:33
bobbicatwill the new feisty live cd update an edgy installation?11:33
louieb39cI was referring to a blog for new users11:33
ober0nehey, general question - I'm on edgy, ordered my feisty cd yesterday... what do you guys think of it?11:34
Daisuke_Idolive cd no11:34
Daisuke_Idoalternate cd yes11:34
Daisuke_Idoober0ne: lovin it11:34
CVirusJohnFlux: photon: in ubuntu, I can enable desktop effects with one click from the desktop effects manager ... I want the same in kubuntu11:34
louieb39csame here11:34
ober0newhat's different?11:34
louieb39cbetter driver support than vista :-P11:34
ober0nethat's not hard!11:34
JohnFluxCVirus: so install the gnome thing :-)11:34
Daisuke_Idosmaller memory footprint too11:34
louieb39cHAHHA11:34
louieb39ccheck out the change log11:35
intelikeyCVirus i guess he told you...   :)11:35
Daisuke_Idoand if you want eye candy, it doesn't require even a THIRD of the resources vista does11:35
JohnFluxCVirus: kwin is better.  it's best to just wait for kde :-)11:35
ober0neI have the XFX geforce 7600 series from nvidia, and bloody vista made it look integrated11:35
JohnFluxCVirus: kde4 i mean11:35
ober0neit was sad11:35
louieb39chaha11:35
Daisuke_Idowait half ayear or better for kde 4?11:35
Daisuke_Idoare you drunk or... just stoned?11:35
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dennisterober0ne: that's the same video card i've got11:36
who_just stoned11:36
louieb39cI love how XP has been out for..5 years? and its JUST 'stable'? yes I use that word lightly11:36
Daisuke_Ido"oh noes, no eye candy until at least october!"11:36
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido yeah why bother with it at all....11:36
whytheamwhat is my file system type?11:36
ober0nedennister: love that card... geforce is GOD11:36
dennisteri am just soooooo glad i decided long time ago to say 'no' to more of winblows11:36
louieb39cagreed11:36
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intelikeywhytheam mount11:36
JohnFluxi installed beryl, thought 'ooo pretty' then realised it wasn't like kwin, and turned it off11:36
Daisuke_Idointelikey: if you like that sort of thing, it's perfectly usable now without waiting for a release that's still a twinkle on the horizon11:36
ober0neyeah... microsod has gotten enough of my time11:36
whytheamit wont work11:36
kaneknowsIs there a way to make grep do a find/replace?11:36
dennisteryes, ober0ne, can't beat lifetime warramtu times 211:36
louieb39cdid you hear Michael dell uses an ubuntu system?11:36
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido and if you don't why bother with any of it...11:37
ober0neyeah11:37
Daisuke_Idointelikey: true11:37
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intelikeykaneknows no you want sed11:37
dennisterin my books, that's putting your $ where ur mouth is: a real commitment to quality11:37
nkoc_Sysinfo for 'nkoc-ubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 1000 MHz (2007 bogomips), , RAM: 909/1011MB, 110 proc's, 57.54min up11:37
ober0neok, so I've pulled automatix down from the ethers... how do I use it now?11:38
ober0newhere would it install?11:38
LjL!automatix > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)11:38
thefirstdudeis kubuntu pretty much based on python?11:38
intelikeykaneknows     sed 's/was/is now/g' file       example only11:38
dennisteranyone have any idea why i can't seem to finish copying large files?11:38
JohnFluxkaneknows: sed -i -e 's/findword/replaceword/' file11:38
Daisuke_Idowell isn't that just lovely, bertha?  you figured out how to flash useless stats in an e-man-danglies competition!11:38
LjLthefirstdude: the kubuntu specific (i.e. made by kubuntu developers) software is, in good part11:38
JohnFluxintelikey: you need -i and -e11:38
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ober0nekk, thanks Ljl11:38
louieb39chttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Feisty#Automatix211:38
intelikeyJohnFlux no11:38
kaneknowshrm thanks.11:39
Daisuke_Idoautomatix has been rendered almost completely useless11:39
Daisuke_Idothank god11:39
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intelikeyJohnFlux what i wrote will work.   you can expand it with -i and -e11:39
Daisuke_Idothe sooner it stops existing, the happier i will be11:39
dennisterintelikey: ? how bout one of my fav helpers?11:39
louieb39cI don't understand daisuke11:39
JohnFluxhmm, it seems -e  is optional11:39
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intelikeydennister ?11:39
Daisuke_Idolouieb39c: automatix is crap11:40
louieb39cwhat issues have you had?11:40
ober0neso ok... if you don't like automatix, what else can I do? I did mention earlier that I suck in the terminal11:40
dennisteryep...:-) for some reason i can't completely finish copying large files...process quits unexpectedly11:40
JohnFluxober0ne: what are you trying to do ?11:40
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LjLober0ne: what do you *need* to do?11:40
Daisuke_Idoforgive the language, but it makes me want to rip peoples' souls out with an olive fork and sacrifice them to the dark lord in exchange for ridding the world of that piece of....11:40
intelikeydennister 2g restriction on vfat ?11:40
ober0neI would love to have my mp3 and xvid codecs and such11:40
Daisuke_Idoober0ne: using feisty?11:40
louieb39cdaisuke I think that is pretty bias - it works perfect for me11:40
LjLober0ne: are you on feisty?11:40
dennisterahhh...maybe11:40
ober0nesadly no, not yest11:40
ober0neyet*11:41
LjL!mp3 > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)11:41
intelikeydennister i need more info.     be concise11:41
Daisuke_Ido!automatix11:41
nick_ober0ne: automatix2 does the job11:41
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:41
Daisuke_Idolouieb39c: this is the OFFICIAL word on automatix11:41
LjL!automatix > nick_    (nick_, see the private message from Ubotu)11:41
ober0nethe only reason I kept microsod around so long was for those codecs and the ease of installation11:41
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Daisuke_Idoif you use it, don't come crying when things break, because they will.11:41
dennisterk...trying to copy large 5.4 g files from mythtv to a vfat drive...only will copy 4.0 g11:41
whytheamnothing is working11:41
LjLober0ne, i don't think xvid requires anything very special, though i might be mistaken - doesn't VLC read them fine?11:41
ober0neyes11:41
ober0nebut apparently I can't get vlc11:42
Daisuke_IdoLjL: vlc <311:42
LjLober0ne: as for MP3, a bit of terminal might be needed, but you really just need to copy&paste what's in the guide11:42
ober0neit's what I used on windows11:42
dennistermessage from copying kioslave, i believe, 'process quit unexpedly"11:42
LjLober0ne: how so?11:42
JohnFluxdennister: fat32 doesn't support files larger than 4GB11:42
Daisuke_Idoober0ne: enable universe, sudo apt-get install vlc11:42
louieb39cober I would make your own opinion - try it - and either love it or hate it11:42
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ober0neenable universe...11:42
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ober0neok11:42
ober0neumm11:42
intelikeydennister yeah vfat can only handle < 2g    you can break the file into chuncks and rejoin it later on something else if that helps11:42
dennisterthat's right...damn...i forgot11:42
LjL!universe > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)11:42
ober0neI'm loving that ubotu11:42
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dennisterand that's why these mythtv files are on an xfs partition11:42
Daisuke_Idoi'm gonna go have a smoke, i'm getting a little too cynical in here right now :)11:43
kikkomanSay #kubuntu, how do I open ports? I need to open 7000, 8000, and 5000011:43
intelikeydennister yep11:43
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LjLober0ne: i suggest that you simply let source-o-matic, a very handy site, create a new /etc/apt/sources.list for you (which is the file that lists the places software is downloaded from)11:43
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dennisterany suggestions for a chunk-breaker?11:43
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LjLober0ne: first, hit Alt+F2, and type  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 11:43
wiglafhello everyone...11:43
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LjLober0ne: then erase the contents, and paste the stuff you obtain from source-o-matic. make sure you tick universe and multiverse in there, as well as seveas11:43
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LjL!source-o-matic > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)11:43
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wiglafany info on why my apt-get update is going painfully slow and not able to hit everything (i'm trying to upgrade to Feisty)11:44
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Daisuke_IdoLjL: there's a chance he won't have gedit (using kubuntu)11:44
LjLober0ne: then save the file, and you're almost done. just type  sudo apt-get update  to sync with the new list, and then you can do  sudo apt-get install vlc  (or the same thing from the graphical Adept interface)11:44
LjLDaisuke_Ido: gah11:44
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Daisuke_Idosorry11:44
kikkomanwiglaf: My upgrade to feisty was somewhat slow also, just wait it out >.>;11:44
LjLober0ne: whenever i said  gksudo gedit , make that  kdesu kate , sorry11:44
ober0neoddly enough the gksudo gedit worked11:45
wiglafI'm trying to update my current packages, and it won't connect to some of the repos11:45
louieb39cwell Ubuntu's servers are fast, but not THAT fast11:45
ober0neor not11:45
louieb39cthere are a lot of people downloading I assume11:45
LjLober0ne: that would mean you have Ubuntu and not Kubuntu (or Ubuntu as well as Kubuntu =)11:45
intelikeyober0ne not odd.  you have gnome installed11:45
wiglafyeah, most likely11:45
whytheamIt wont mount!  DEAR GOD MAKE IT MOUNT !11:45
wiglafI also have torrents running so I can get the alt CD and try to do an update that-wise11:45
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ober0neemmm... the list generator wants to generate one for ubuntu... does that matter?11:46
intelikeywhytheam i'm not he, but if you'll give me the details i'll see what i can do11:46
louieb39cLove most about Ubuntu = Community :)11:46
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LjLober0ne: it's fine, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the very same distribution, just a different set of packages installed by default11:46
wiglafI have the i386 CD already...so I may end up backing up and going from scratch...or resizing partitions and moving after the new install11:46
ober0neok11:46
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LjLober0ne: just make sure you select the mirror for your country - or a mirror you know is fast for you, anyway11:46
ober0neso I'm enabling multi- and uni- verses?11:47
intelikeywhytheam device name ?   desired mountpoint ?    and fs type ?11:47
LjLober0ne: yeppers, and since you're interested in codecs, i'd also enable seveas and, possibly, medibuntu11:47
makuseruanyone know what the room for Ubuntu Studio is?11:47
kikkomanI've compiled the Unreal IRCd and it has loaded with no problems, but people cannot connect to it. I think it may be a problem of unopened ports. When people connect, it says Connection timed out. How would you solve it, /b/? >.>; I mean #kubuntu11:47
wolferineanyone good with proftpd, I cannot share an nfs share within my root, someone able to help?11:47
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whytheamI entered the command [gedit /etc/fstab]  and changed /dev/hdd1 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 to /dev/sdb /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 011:48
ober0neok, I didn't see those 2 repositories11:48
whytheamthen mount11:48
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intelikeywhytheam these can be determined by     sudo fdisk -l     and ls /media   (assuming media is acceptable base dir)11:48
LjLober0ne: scroll down...11:48
jaimshello11:48
ober0neI saw seveas and medibuntu, but not the multi and uni11:48
whytheamit is11:48
whytheamit said it's there11:48
jaimsone easy question11:48
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wiglafkickit, Jaims11:49
LjLober0ne: those are the first two ones, and they're ticked by default anyway11:49
jaimsupdates for digicam and tzdata11:49
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intelikeywhytheam ok.    /dev/sdb  would be whole divice  not a partition is that the intent ?11:49
ober0neOhhh... ok11:49
jaimskubuntu edgy, kde 3.5.611:49
whytheamyes11:49
jaimsdoesnt update11:49
ober0neagain with the attention to detail11:49
wiglafoh, jaims...I'm having the same issue11:49
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dennisterfor ubuntu-7.04-server I'm trying to seed, but there are 200 seeders and only 22 leechers :-)11:49
jaimsok11:49
gugahi11:49
jaimsi expected that11:49
gugadoes anyone know what program i can use to build websites, similar to FrontPage ?11:49
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ober0nedo I need to uncomment the gpg key?11:49
jaimsi reckon its not important and will be fixed11:49
wiglafthat, and my apt-get update is taking 45mins...11:50
VSpikeguga: quanta plus maybe11:50
intelikeywhytheam   sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/storage11:50
jaimsyes11:50
jaimssame here11:50
_4strOguga: blufish, quante, nvu11:50
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gugaVSpike: is it in the repos _11:50
guga?11:50
intelikeyand tell me what it says if it says anything11:50
_4strOguga: quanta11:50
wiglafguga...have you tried the OOo?11:50
jaimsmaybe due to feisty fawn dloads11:50
louieb39cguga this might due? www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-54.html11:50
wiglafthat's my guess, jaims11:50
_4strOguga: bluefish :p11:50
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LjLober0ne: don't uncomment anything, use what it gives you as-is11:50
ober0neok11:50
whytheam"you must specify the filesystem type"11:50
jaimsaha11:50
FranzmaximilianUsing edgy.  Since yesterday whatever package i try to install using Adept gives an error while installing like: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.11:51
Franzmaximilianany aidea?11:51
jaimsty wiglaf11:51
intelikeywhytheam ok that message is saying that there is no filesystem on sdb11:51
VSpikeguga: should be.  "sudo aptitude install quanta"11:51
gugathanks!!11:51
intelikeywhytheam are you sure you don't want sdb1 ?11:51
rstancaguys, any ideea why my hd is now /dev/sda, not /dev/hda?11:51
miki_hi all11:51
rstancaweird11:51
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Daisuke_Idorstanca: it's a change in the new kernel, they're all sd* now11:51
ober0neok... kdesu kate won't let me save the new copy of sources.list11:51
nick_Has anyone noticed that this version of Amarok is pretty buggy?11:51
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VSpikerstanca: kernel change11:51
intelikeyrstanca yes   scsi emulation11:52
kikkoman#kubuntu, send me thy help. I need to open ports 6667, 7000, 8000, and 50000. Please tell me how to do such.11:52
whytheamyes it's just a storage hd no OS11:52
intelikeywhytheam but does it have a partition table ?11:52
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Daisuke_Idoyou have to specify the filesystem type with -t <fstype>11:52
jaimskikkoman: maybe using firestarter11:52
miki_can you recommend any tool for resizing ext3 partition?11:52
jaimsthats what i use11:52
intelikeywhytheam   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb11:52
whytheamyes11:52
kikkomanjaims: >.>; What is that and how do I use it?11:52
whytheamhold on11:52
fakepatriotcan someone tell me why apt-get dist-upgrade isnt working?11:52
intelikeywhytheam then you want the partition not the disk.11:52
LjLober0ne: uh? did it ask for a password before opening?11:52
jaimsgraphic front end for firewall11:53
intelikeywhytheam   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/storage11:53
ober0neyes, and I typed it in right and everything :p11:53
LjLober0ne: what's it saying?11:53
kikkomanjaims: Ok, so how would I use it to open the ports?11:53
ober0neI don't have write permissions11:53
whytheamit is but it worked ad sdb1 but my files arnt there11:53
LjL!doesn't work | fakepatriot11:53
ubotufakepatriot: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:53
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jaimspiece of kake kikkoman11:53
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Arwenhow many of you guys upgraded to feisty yet?11:53
intelikeywhytheam chmod  or chown11:53
photonCould you recommend a firewall frontend which does not require deep knowledge to configure?11:53
jaimsinstall it11:53
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jaimsopen it (youll have to type ur sudo pwd)11:54
alphi_configure: error: Please unset CONFIG_MODVERSIONS for /usr/src/linux and rebuild your kernel11:54
LjLober0ne: weird enough. can you go to a terminal and type  ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list  for me please? (and give the output)11:54
alphi_can anyone help me do that ?11:54
intelikeywhytheam you can read the manpage on both and decide which you want/need11:54
markcshould a GeForce 6600 LE be nvdidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?11:54
whytheamI'm going to sound stupid but what11:54
jaims3rd tab to set rules11:54
Cugeldudes I lost my trashcan -- where is my trash stored in feisty?11:54
miki_hm11:54
wiglafI'm thinking I'm going to resize partitions and install, then move files/configs and absorb the old partitions11:54
LjL!firewall | photon11:54
ubotuphoton: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).11:54
jaimsvery easy, believe me11:54
whytheamgot them11:54
kikkomanjaims: thanks :D11:54
jaimsnp11:54
jaims:)11:54
ober0ne"-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1844 2007-04-20 17:19 /etc/apt/sources.list"11:54
whytheamit's all there will it stay mounted11:54
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LjLober0ne: uhm, root does have write permissions. something seems wrong with your kdesu...11:55
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jaimsbye all11:55
kikkomancya11:55
fakepatriotit sits on the couch all day and it won't clean its room! what else could i mean!? its not upgrading my distro...to me that sounds like not working...i apologize if it could mean something else11:55
ober0neit worked before11:55
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jaimsthanks wiglaf11:55
jaimsbye11:55
intelikeywhytheam    ch=change  mod=mode (permissions)    own=ownership      chmod  to set permission    chown to change ownership      determine which you need/want and i'll help you use it.11:55
markcanyone with a GeForce 6600 LE ? did you use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?11:55
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wiglafmarkc...what does automatix install? I think it's nvidia-glx, and It likes my 6600 just fine11:56
LjLober0ne: ok, i'm a bit at a loss (i could tell you other ways to do this, but we should get kdesu to work anyway). just please try closing kate and doing it all again11:56
whytheamwill it mount at start up if yes that's all i need if no HOW DO I DO THAT11:56
LjLober0ne: that is, type  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  in a terminal again, and paste your new list to it again, and try saving again11:56
Daisuke_Idoagain with the automatix!11:57
wiglafyeah...11:57
Arwenick, automatix11:57
markcwiglaf: thanks, not sure I want to use automatix11:57
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Daisuke_Idoonce more:11:57
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Daisuke_Ido!automatix11:57
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe11:57
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LjLwiglaf: you like unbootable systems too?11:57
intelikeywhytheam you said no write access didnt you ?     and if you edit the fstab to sdb1 it will mount11:57
louieb39cwiglaf - my linux is digested along with the spoon11:57
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FranzmaximilianUsing Edgy.  Since yesterday, whatever package i try to install using Adept gives an error while installing like: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "  Any idea ??11:57
ArwenI could write a 2 line script to do everything that automatix does...11:57
louieb39cyou will get that way too11:57
whytheamhold on11:57
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Arwenand safely none the less11:57
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Daisuke_IdoFranzmaximilian: in konsole: 'sudo apt-get -f install'11:58
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fakepatriotok i'll try this again...does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade isn't upgrading my distro?11:58
whytheami can save to it11:58
louieb39carwen - then do it and put it on the web! gotta help the community11:58
Arwenlouieb39c, pssh11:58
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whytheamIt just woulden't mount11:58
wiglafstraight-up, Arwen11:58
Arwenno point, MANUAL INSTALL11:58
Daisuke_Idonot to mention feisty makes automatix 99% obsolete11:59
louieb39cIm not a programmer - but Im here to do my part for the community - help who I an11:59
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intelikeywhytheam ok    then just edit the fstab and correct the  /dev/sdb   to  /dev/sdb111:59
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whytheamI NEED to know if it will mount at start up now11:59
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Daisuke_Idowhytheam: with the correct fstab setting, yes it will11:59
wiglafthat's what kills me about the community...it needs some English majors, badly...lord help anyone looking for a manual11:59
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ober0neok, it let me save that time11:59
ober0neI think11:59
intelikeywhytheam did you edit the fstab like i said ?11:59
hummm41hello everyone11:59
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FranzmaximilianYes Daisuke_Ido . I know I can do that. But why Adept does not work? It have always been working fine for me before11:59
louieb39cwell wiglaf why are you here? on IRC that is11:59
Daisuke_Idothat will fix apt11:59
markctime for a reboot for  nvidia... thanks for the help11:59
LjLober0ne: well, then type  sudo apt-get update  and then see if  sudo apt-get install vlc  works11:59
ober0nenow what?11:59
wiglafbecause I couldn't find a manual!11:59
intelikeywhytheam that's a yes or no question.   don't strain your brain thinking it over...11:59
whytheamit wont let me save11:59
wiglaflol11:59
louieb39cHA12:00
louieb39cnice12:00
Daisuke_Idodo it and try again, though it's probably a single update that's causing problems12:00
nick_I've always preferred synaptic to adept12:00
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nick_that was the first thing i installed12:00
intelikeywhytheam save to your home dir and   sudo cp it back to /etc12:00
Daisuke_Idofilter it down to just upgradable packages and see what's broken12:00
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hummm41I have a question for you about ubuntu server: can it be installer into a Pentium 1 with 256 MB RAM? Need a >= i686?12:00
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wiglafbut enough whining from me...I should just go WTFM (Write the f manual)12:01
ober0neok, it's getting headers12:01
dany_21hello... i have (and also had prior feisty) a quite low harddisk/filesystem througput - from one drive to another i mostly get 5...6MB/s - in Win (on the same hardware) i have two...three times more - where could i search/tune? any ideas?12:01
FranzmaximilianDaisuke_Ido, I'm not doing upgrades. My Edgy is up to date.  I only want to add a few packages12:01
louieb39cI am really tempted to get a pS3, and throw linux on it despite my hatred for sony....but it runs on a hypervisor and it has 256Mb ram :( - even though its fast...I need  more for all my VMs!12:01
Franzmaximilianand none of them gets installed!12:01
intelikeywhytheam    if you want me to dubble check the fstab for you pastebin it.12:01
LjLober0ne: apt-get update should complete pretty fast. if it doesn't, you're probably using busy mirrors (you know, with feisty just released some of the mirrors are very loaded)12:01
Daisuke_Idothere's something it doesn't like...  what happens when you sudo apt-get -f install?12:01
ober0neyeah12:02
ober0nehow do I change my mirrors?12:02
ober0ne(I oddly enough don't know a lot about mirrors)12:02
intelikeywhytheam or if you only want that one line dubble checked    grep /dev/sdb /etc/fstab   and  drop it in here12:02
Franzmaximiliani will try now Daisuke_Ido  and will let you know.  thanks and see you later if needed12:02
Daisuke_Idok12:02
LjLober0ne: you make a new sources.list from source-o-matic. or you just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change them manually, mirrors are all in the form "xx.archive.ubuntu.com", xx being a country code12:02
whytheamhold on12:02
Daisuke_Idono need to leave here to do that though :)12:02
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LjLober0ne: i suggest you avoid the US mirrors and the UK mirrors right now. i'm using the swedish (se.archive.ubuntu.com)12:03
pingvenoMy CVS package has gotten corrupted, but when I'm trying to reinstall it my computer slows down, then freezes.12:03
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guga!codecs12:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:03
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pingvenoI think the fs might be screwed up12:03
whytheamfeel realy stupid I forgot to put sudo in front it saved12:03
wiglafavoid the canadian mirrors, now, too...I'm dragging on them ever so painfully12:03
M_Fatihhi, ubuntu not booting.. says `/dev/hda2 does not exists` and after `/bin/sh: can`t access tty; job control turned off` how can i boot.. i searched forums.. there too many users have this problem but there is no solution... i tired to try to fix this. :.....(12:03
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LjLM_Fatih: there is a bug report (a few, actually) like that12:04
ober0newhy does vlc come from a security repository?12:04
intelikeywhytheam yeah,   i find being in a hurry makes thing take 5 times as long....12:04
M_Fatihwhat must i do? i can`t work now?12:04
LjLM_Fatih: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/9608412:04
whytheamok is that all i need to do12:05
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LjLsorry but i haven't read it yet, i guess you'll have to take your own conclusions12:05
intelikeyM_Fatih edit to sd in place of hd12:05
LjLober0ne: probably because a security vulnerability was found after the Edgy release12:05
ober0neahh12:05
intelikeyroot=/dev/sd*12:05
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LjLthat's what the security repository is for, fixing vulnerabilities12:05
hummm41I have a question for you about ubuntu server feisty: can it be installed into a Pentium 1 with 256 MB RAM? it Needs a >= i686?12:05
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ober0nehey, if the conn timed out, will it try again, or try another mirror?12:05
M_Fatihhmm. i`m trying..12:06
orient2000give 5 minuts for CVS12:06
LjLober0ne: if it times out, hit ctrl+c and try again. with the same mirror or another.12:06
intelikeywhytheam do you want me to dubble check it or no ?12:06
gugawhat does the kubuntu logo mean when its next to a package name in adept _12:06
guga?12:06
whytheamshure12:06
wiglafhummm41: my opinion is just give'r a go...the i386 just may kickit12:06
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intelikeywhytheam short answer should be yes.     but if you want me to look    pastebin your fstab12:07
louieb39chummm41 - get the alt edition I would say12:07
intelikey!paste | whytheam12:07
ubotuwhytheam: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:07
M_Fatihintelikey: only menu.lst right? fstab?12:07
ober0neemm... LjL, can I send you a message with the output of kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list?12:07
intelikeyM_Fatih yes12:07
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M_Fatihok12:07
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ober0neit's a little big for the channel12:07
LjLober0ne: uh? the *output* of it?12:07
hummm41thanks wiglaf and louieb39c12:07
CVirusWhere is the "Show windows from all desktops" option in kde 3.5.6 ?12:07
ober0neterminal output12:07
LjLober0ne: well, that's what the pastebin is for12:07
LjL!pastebin > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)12:07
intelikeyM_Fatih fstab be set  but you can dubble check12:07
louieb39cnot a problem hummm12:08
wiglafCVirus...right-click the panel, and configure panel12:08
intelikeyM_Fatih fstab defaults to blkid12:08
LjLober0ne: ok, send it. but of course it shouldn't be *giving* any significant terminal output...12:08
ober0nelol12:08
CViruswiglaf: and ?12:08
M_Fatihintelikey: i changed fstab UUIDs to hdx12:08
intelikeybetter make it sd12:09
whytheamhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667/12:09
louieb39cwould anyone here have a ps3... with linux on it?12:09
ober0newait what? ps3??12:09
gugawhat does the kubuntu logo mean when its next to a package name in adept  ?12:09
miki_how to resize ext3 partition (with data on it)?12:09
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wiglafCVirus...12:09
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louieb39cyea ober - I don't know if its worth it yet - the 8 cores are to drool over...but lack or ram and the fact it runs on a hypervisor makes me skeptical12:10
wiglafit's in the taskbar section12:10
CViruswiglaf: not there12:10
intelikeywhytheam ok i would change the  0 0   at the end to   0 1   but it will work either way.12:10
wiglafno?12:10
gugadoes feisty come with beryl or compiz ?12:10
CViruswiglaf: not there12:11
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intelikeywhytheam  1 makes it replay the journal when mounting,  helps reduce the chance of corruption12:11
wiglafno configure panel or no taskbar section in the window12:11
intelikeywhytheam short answer looks good.    assuming the cdrom works.12:11
thinklibertyAnyone know how to turn on bash's page up regexp history completion?12:11
Sanneguga: I think the logo icon next to a package means it's officially supported (that is, is from main). I think.12:12
louieb39cso I guess no one tried throwing linux(hopefully an ubuntu variant) on the ps3 in here?12:12
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gugathanks Sanne, what about beryl-compiz? is any of them installed by default ?12:12
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whytheamyes it does12:13
Sanneguga: I heard they are installed by default in Ubuntu, but not in Kubuntu. I don't run Feisty yet, so I can't tell.12:13
CViruswiglaf: no "show windows of the current desktop only"12:13
the-ermAnyone know off the top of their head what command you need to run to find out what version of kubuntu is installed?12:13
gugaoh, ok, thanks12:13
Doctor_Nickscion: the failiure-mobile12:13
wiglafno "Show windows from all desktops?"12:14
BluesKaj!repos12:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:14
Sanneguga: if you want to read some info about the different respoitories (main, universe...): http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components12:14
wiglafI have that unchecked12:14
Arwenis it possible to convert a logical partition into a primary one?12:14
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