[12:15] <rjb> BCM43xx wireless in feisty, anyone? what's the support status?
[12:16] <pvandewyngaerde> is it possible to play flash with kubuntu 64 ?
[12:17] <Ch1ppy> hey, so I started upgrading to feisty through adept_manager, and in my silliness (don't ask) I canceled it in the middle of downloading & installing packages.  Now adept_manager isn't letting me use the handy upgrade program anymore... any suggestions?
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> broadcom.  chances are the support's the same as it always has been and always will be.  nonexistant.  ndiswrapper for you!  (this post may be slightly inaccurate, but it made the writer a little happier, so lay off)
[12:17] <Ch1ppy> all my repos are set to feisty right now
[12:20] <coreymon77> ive got an idea
[12:20] <coreymon77> dont use a broadcom chip card
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: if it's built in, there's not much choice, sadly
[12:21] <coreymon77> why are the es.archive.ubuntu.com repos so slow and take so long to connect to (pausing at "waiting for headers for a long time)
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd recommend the same thing, but that's not always a possibility
[12:21] <coreymon77> us not es
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: i'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because a ton of people are upgrading right now because feisty was released today
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> all the repos are slow :\
[12:23] <wondering> Now that this channel officially supports Feisty, a Feisty question: I installed a stock kubuntu-alternate-i386 installation on my machine and I can't login with local user accounts through KDM.
[12:23] <wondering> Is this a known bug?
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> wondering: oem install?
[12:24] <wondering> Daisuke_Ido: Command line install and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> no idea
[12:24] <wondering> This wasn't something that I noticed in the Feisty beta.
[12:26] <rjb> re Broadcom: i run it with ndiswrapper on edgy, has worked fine ever since i've had this machine
[12:26] <rjb> the reason i'm concerned about feisty is, edgy's most recent kernel update seems to break ndiswrapper
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> then recompile ndiswrapper
[12:27] <rjb> i use the packaged ndiswrapper
[12:27] <rjb> why t.f. should i need to recompile it
[12:27] <Daisuke_Ido> why t.f. shouldn't you?
[12:28] <rjb> it's a kernel module that's part of the distro for chrissake
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> the ndiswrapper included with feisty is already outdated
[12:28] <Daisuke_Ido> (assuming they're still using 1.30)
[12:28] <rjb> yeah that's why i'm not assuming it will work without firt asking folks who might know
[12:29] <yaccin> how can i run a gtk-application? -_-
[12:29] <rjb> first asking, even
[12:29] <coreymon77> yaccin: just run it
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i would try it
[12:29] <yaccin> coreymon77: doesnt work :P
[12:29] <yaccin> i get errors
[12:29] <yaccin> but
[12:29] <coreymon77> yaccin: what program is this
[12:29] <yaccin> wwhen i run them as root it works
[12:29] <yaccin> its vlc, gimp and thunderbird
[12:29] <Twisted> is feisty considered beta or stable?
[12:30] <tekteen> stable
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Twisted: read the topic
[12:30] <coreymon77> Twisted: as of today, stable
[12:30] <Twisted> oh. duh. thanks
[12:30] <wondering> Twisted: It's supposedly stable, but I can't even login from KDM from a stock kubuntu installation.
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it's out, official, released, fo' real yo', all good in da hood, pick your euphemism :)
[12:30] <Twisted> yikes
[12:30] <tekteen> did u install since stable
[12:30] <qsu> so people, anyway  on feisty already
[12:30] <tekteen> did u upgrade to it using apt-get
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> anecdotal evidence != bad OS
[12:31] <Twisted> methinks i'm a little behind then
[12:31] <yaccin> qsu: for weeks :P
[12:31] <Graham> Yay! Packages downloaded! Now I'm upgrading to 7.04!
[12:31] <coreymon77> im having trouble with it
[12:31] <yaccin> err
[12:31] <yaccin> for months
[12:31] <yaccin> coreymon77: so...? ^^
[12:31] <goatimus> hi all - need clues for a botched kubuntu 6.10 install...
[12:31] <coreymon77> yaccin: oh, your gtk must be messed, what are you running?
[12:32] <yaccin> feisty
[12:32] <coreymon77> yaccin: what version
[12:32] <coreymon77> yaccin: stable
[12:32] <coreymon77> ?
[12:32] <yaccin> stable what?
[12:32] <coreymon77> yaccin: the stable feisty or the beta feisty
[12:32] <yaccin> there is no bety feisty
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> BAH!  can't even download the release announcement
[12:32] <yaccin> o.O
[12:33] <stoft> Daisuke_Ido: you n me both :(
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> yaccin: if you downloaded it before today there is
[12:33] <coreymon77> yaccin: have you upgraded today
[12:33] <yaccin> not if you upgrade
[12:33] <yaccin> but its a fresh install
[12:33] <yaccin> but i had the same problem with the old install
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> there were beta isos too
[12:33] <tekteen> what u sould do NOW is fresh install or alt. cd
[12:33] <coreymon77> yaccin: WHEN DID YOU GET FEISTY
[12:33] <coreymon77> yaccin: oops
[12:33] <tekteen> DO NOT DO WEB UPDATE
[12:33] <yaccin> i downloaded and isntalled today
[12:33] <yaccin> so it is the stable
[12:34] <yaccin> yes
[12:34] <coreymon77> yaccin: sorry, didnt know caps was on
[12:34] <yaccin> ...
[12:34] <Graham> tekteen: Nothing wrong with the web update. Worked fine for me, only took me an hour.
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> wish me luck
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> updating :D
[12:34] <coreymon77> umm
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> stoft: keep trying
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> it'll go through
[12:34] <coreymon77> i went through the thing where it downloads the upgrade tool
[12:35] <coreymon77> it then said click finish to close adept and run the upgrade tool
[12:35] <tekteen> I've bee WEB UPDATING for quite a few hours
[12:35] <Jisao> Do you know of any torrent software staying linked when it's done downloading?
[12:35] <coreymon77> i pressed finish and adept isnt closing
[12:35] <stoft> Daisuke_Ido: went through the first part, got stuck on the next, gonna leave it to tomorrow, need to get some sleep.
[12:35] <giovani> I tried installing using the desktop i386 installer -- and got to three different points of booting by trying "media check" "safe graphics" and "install" booting
[12:35] <tekteen> Since I got home from school
[12:35] <coreymon77> nor is any upgrade tool starting
[12:35] <stoft> Jisao: most torrent sw switches to "seed" when having finished a dl.
[12:35] <_Johny> I tried to make a web update updating to feisty. Some erorrs occured and I had to reinstall the entire system - It wouldn't boot
[12:35] <tekteen> 4:15 hours left of DOWNLOAD
[12:35] <giovani> in all three cases ... the keyboard stops responding, however a cursor is blinking in the terminal after all of the services ubuntu managed to start
[12:35] <Graham> tekteen: Where are you?
[12:36] <tekteen> ?
[12:36] <tekteen> What do u mean
[12:36] <Graham> tekteen: Where do you live?
[12:36] <coreymon77> yaccin: my upgrade tool isnt working
[12:36] <tekteen> cant say
[12:36] <tekteen> NY
[12:36] <Graham> That'll be why.
[12:36] <tekteen> ok
[12:36] <Jisao> Looks like I can't do that on the one I used :-(   I wanted to seed the Kubuntu I got today.
[12:36] <tekteen> NY matters
[12:36] <Graham> Server is in the UK isn't it?
[12:36] <tekteen> ?
[12:37] <stoft> east coast just got home from work and wants to upgrade... ;)
[12:37] <giovani> I'm in NY -- 22 minutes to download from the us.releases site
[12:37] <tekteen> I am afraid to use alt. cd
[12:37] <tekteen> It might not work
[12:38] <coreymon77> guys
[12:38] <Jisao> whym tekteen?te
[12:38] <coreymon77> my update tool isnt loading
[12:38] <Stromberg> hey
[12:38] <tekteen> I started WEB UPDATE
[12:38] <goatimus> anyone here familiar with how to troubleshoot packages that should have installed but didn't?
[12:38] <coreymon77> my web update isnt owkrin
[12:38] <tekteen> I am afraid it has done to much
[12:38] <Jisao> mine either, coreymon77
[12:38] <coreymon77> update too isnt opening
[12:38] <tekteen> If I stop it it might not work
[12:38] <Stromberg> is anyone else having problems with 7.04 and knetworkmanager? i want to connect to my wpa network and it says "Configuring device" and then simply stops after some time
[12:38] <yaccin> ahhh
[12:38] <yaccin> i did a rm .gtk*
[12:38] <yaccin> and now it works
[12:39] <yaccin> :)
[12:39] <snikker> i'm tring to update to feisty via adept, but an error message tell me to free about 15mb in /boot... now i've got 26mb free in /boot... i can't update?
[12:39] <Graham> Wait, is Fiesty going to try and configure my wireless?
[12:39] <yaccin> sry
[12:39] <yaccin> :/
[12:39] <yaccin> tekwhy?
[12:39] <yaccin> coreymon77: servers are too busy
[12:39] <coreymon77> does anyone know why my update tool isnt openign
[12:39] <coreymon77> and where is this version upgrade button
[12:40] <Graham> coreymon77: Is your 6.10 install fully up to date?
[12:40] <coreymon77> i believe so
[12:40] <coreymon77> the window to download the tool appeared
[12:40] <amigrave> kubuntu hardware database collection program freezes my computer ;-) Can't even Ctrl-Alt-F1, the mouse cursor still moves but I can't click on anything
[12:40] <tekteen> you need to run update-manager
[12:40] <Stromberg> did anyone get his WPA to work with 7.04 ?
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: fetch updates, upgrade, quit, restart adept, fetch updates again
[12:40] <coreymon77> just after i pressed finish, adept didnt close and update tool didnt open
[12:40] <tekteen> Then it will show the upgrade button
[12:41] <snikker> i must erase all my hd and reinstall?
[12:41] <raven301> Has anyone had luck getting their wireless to work in 7.04 ... mine worked in the beta but.
[12:41] <Stromberg> raven301, WPA-PSK?
[12:42] <raven301> wep
[12:42] <Stromberg> with network-manager?
[12:42] <Daisuke_Ido> ugh, i hate wep anyway :D
[12:42] <N0Lif3|lappy> cool, Kubuntu is upgrading to 7.04
[12:42] <Stromberg> it refuses to connect to my WPA here :/
[12:42] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: when i press full upgrade, it looks like its gonna upgrade the stuff to feisty anyways
[12:42] <Daisuke_Ido> then go for it :)
[12:42] <raven301> Stromberg, with systemsetting
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the worst that can happen?
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, poor choice of words, sorry
[12:43] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: my system fucks
[12:43] <xst> I have two soundcards. How do I select which of them that should be my default soundcard?
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> take a look at one or two of the upgradable packages and see what the candidate version is
[12:44] <dettoaltrimenti> if I'm searching for something in an html document (using Kate), that comes between two quotes like this: "title="hello hello"", is there any way I can search for each instance of that, and have the 'hello hello' part highlighted?
[12:44] <Stromberg> i hate this wireless network configuring shit... linux is so bad at it
[12:44] <Daisuke_Ido> !language
[12:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:44] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1really3.5.5
[12:44] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: its all kde stuff
[12:45] <coreymon77> Stromberg: what card
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you need to install that
[12:45] <os2mac> Stromberg; what's your problem?
[12:45] <Stromberg> tnet1130 with ndiswrapper
[12:45] <hagabaka> I usually use KDM; if X crashes on start up, and I get the command line login prompt, after fixing xorg.conf, what's the correct way to start up KDM again?
[12:45] <Stromberg> removed acx111 already
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you installed 3.5.6 on edgy, didn't you?
[12:45] <Stromberg> then ndiswrappered
[12:45] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: yup
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> install those packages
[12:45] <Stromberg> network-manager detects my wireless network
[12:45] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> can't upgrade to feisty with 3.5.6 installed :)
[12:45] <Daisuke_Ido> problem solved!
[12:45] <coreymon77> Stromberg: what chipset does your card use
[12:45] <N0Lif3|lappy> Stromberg: I haven't had to deal with wireless on linux. Right now, i'm connected to the net via a 50ft cat5 to a router :p
[12:45] <Stromberg> but then only says "Configuring device" when trying to connect
[12:46] <Graham> So is the Fiesty wireless support supposed to be really good?
[12:46] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: i just made sure i got a card with an atheros chipset
[12:46] <Stromberg> texas instruments chip: tnet1130
[12:46] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: mine worked out of the box, just a simple iwconfig command
[12:46] <Daisuke_Ido> atheros, ralink, all cool
[12:46] <os2mac> Graham: mine works great and has never worked in an earlier version of Kubuntu
[12:46] <Daisuke_Ido> broadcom, evil evil EVIL
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, fetching file 1 of 911
[12:47] <os2mac> and I am Broadcom....
[12:47] <N0Lif3|lappy> I want to get wifi, but i'm just too cheap to sink $50 on a wifi card
[12:47] <Stromberg> it just sucks seems to be a problem with knetworkmanager here
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> os2mac: and it worked out of the box in feisty?
[12:47] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: mine was much cheaper than that
[12:47] <os2mac> get a cheap card.. it will likely work in Linux.
[12:47] <dope> yoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?
[12:47] <Graham> Thing is, it takes me ages to get my wireless working because it acts like a bell end. I don't want it to screw with my wireless again.
[12:47] <N0Lif3|lappy> coreymon77: orly?
[12:47] <giovani> os2mac: most modern cards WON'T work
[12:47] <Graham> I say if it works, don't f*** with it.
[12:48] <giovani> they've gone with cheap broadcom chips
[12:48] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: no, airlink101
[12:48] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: it has an atheros chipset
[12:48] <os2mac> Daisuke... yes until the .5 version of network mangler but it's fixed again.
[12:48] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: worked out of the box in linux
[12:48] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: all it needed was an iwconfig command to enter my essid and wep key
[12:48] <os2mac> giovani.. I run broadcom and they work fine.
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> giovani: the newer pci linsys cards are ralink
[12:48] <xtreem> hey
[12:48] <Eyeless> how do i resume the upgrade if the updater crashed mid upgrade?
[12:49] <giovani> atheros is the best bet for modern cards -- and atheros supports injection
[12:49] <Eyeless> aptitude wont run
[12:49] <Daisuke_Ido> atheros is nice
[12:49] <xtreem> does anyone know how to use Kubuntu with QEMU?
[12:49] <giovani> err, injection while in RFMON*
[12:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Eyeless: update-manager?
[12:49] <Eyeless> nor adept
[12:49] <dope> yoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?
[12:49] <coreymon77> os2mac: no ndiswrapper with my card
[12:49] <dope> yoyo, sometimes when amarok is playing and i do something else my music stutters.  is there a way to give amarok the highest priority so that doesn't happen?
[12:49] <dope> wqoop
[12:49] <xtreem> ?
[12:49] <dope> s
[12:49] <Eyeless> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, that should be the one (the distro update tool)
[12:49] <os2mac> coreymoon77 nore me.
[12:49] <Graham> What does /etc/host.conf do again?
[12:49] <zblach> hey. congrats on the 704 release
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Eyeless: will it run?
[12:50] <xtreem> I have the 6.06 LTS release CD, can I run this using QEMU somehow?
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that reminds me, i need tunes
[12:50] <zblach> quick questionl w32codecs
[12:50] <zblach> there a feisty package?
[12:50] <N0Lif3|lappy> oh man, this upgrade is huge. this is going to take a while. :S
[12:50] <xtreem> ?
[12:50] <zblach> !w32codecs
[12:50] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:51] <Eyeless> Daisuke_Ido: cant find it, closest thing is update-mime
[12:51] <xtreem> anyone?
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[12:52] <xtreem> can I use QEMU with this?
[12:52] <xtreem> kubuntu 6.06 LTS release CD
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> why wouldn't you be able to?
[12:52] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: my card was less than $30 canadian and its the best wirelss card i have ever had
[12:53] <coreymon77> and i have had 4
[12:53] <xtreem> well how would I?
[12:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i dunno
[12:53] <N0Lif3|lappy> coreymon77:  where did you buy it?
[12:53] <XrMb2> i need a Feisty 7.04-live-CD, does anyone know where i can find that..?
[12:53] <coreymon77> N0Lif3|lappy: its out of stock
[12:53] <xtreem> I know to type qemu.exe -L . -hda image_name.img, but what about for a CD?
[12:53] <Daisuke_Ido> XrMb2: this PAINS ME, but try kubuntu.org!
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> xtreem: i don't use qemu, so i have no idea what the options would be
[12:54] <xtreem> o
[12:54] <XrMb2> but i can't find a live-CD there for 7.04
[12:54] <xtreem> I'll google it
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> XrMb2: desktop = live
[12:54] <replman> Hi!
[12:55] <FireJet> replman: Hi?
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> about 8 hours, 50 minutes remaining
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm going to cry
[12:55] <FireJet> Er, for some reason Adept isn't doing an amazing job of upgrading. Isn't there a commandline to do it?
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it's up to file 3 of 911 :)
[12:55] <FireJet> Daisuke_Ido: Dude, fast connection...
[12:56] <FireJet> Scratch that, it found it.
[12:56] <N0Lif3|lappy> i'm at 15 of 843 :S
[12:56] <kkathman> what is the name of the adept updater function? (not the package manager)
[12:56] <Graham> Daisuke_Ido: Don't run an programs that use too much internet.
[12:56] <Graham> any*
[12:56] <FireJet> Or not...
[12:57] <replman> I'm wondering where i can find the advertised button to install the proprietary nvidia-driver (kubuntu)
[12:57] <FireJet> kkathman: "adept_manager"
[12:57] <tmbg_> !repository
[12:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:57] <pvandewyngaerde> i found it at the hardware settings of my  video card
[12:57] <tmbg_> replman, ^
[12:57] <kkathman> thanx
[12:57] <_Neil> hey all, how can i run realplayer files in firefox?
[12:57] <_Neil> it tells me i need a plugin
[12:58] <FireJet> _Neil: Try installing the kmplayer or kaffeine plugin for Firefox
[12:59] <tmbg_> _Neil, read the following.
[12:59] <tmbg_> !codecs
[12:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <_Neil> Ubuntu restricted extras
[01:00] <_Neil> will this add real?
[01:01] <FireJet> _Neil: It should...
[01:01] <replman> in settings -> Display -> Hardware i see the driver nv which seems not to be the proprietary nvidia-driver. When i choose settings i can choose NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic), but the driver stays the same
[01:02] <replman> do i have to download it from nvidia as i did with 6.04?
[01:02] <giovani> replman: you need to install nvidia-glx -- and then go into your xorg.conf and manually change the driver to "nvidia"
[01:03] <giovani> you may, if you wish, install the direct binary from nvidia -- it's newer, but it won't be installed using apt- so it won't be as easy to install, and remove
[01:03] <giovani> apt-get install nvidia-glx should be all you need to do
[01:03] <giovani> then ensure that "nvidia" is the selected driver
[01:03] <giovani> rather than "nv"
[01:03] <coreymon77> somehow i have i feeling that i should wait until tomorrow to upgrade
[01:04] <_Neil> I added restricted extras, but how do i use them?
[01:04] <_Neil> everything is just the same
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> giovani: that depends, does feisty include a newer driver than 8776?
[01:04] <giovani> http://packages.ubuntu.com/nvidia-glx
[01:04] <giovani> look for yourself
[01:04] <replman> in the description for the driver there is a hint to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" after installing the driver...let's try
[01:04] <giovani> replman: you don't need to do that
[01:05] <_Neil> any ideas guys?
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> not the latest, but not too shabby
[01:05] <giovani> _Neil: you do an "apt-get update" like always to refresh the lists of packages
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> but...
[01:05] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay, now there is a new problem
[01:05] <_Neil> ahhh
[01:05] <giovani> Daisuke_Ido: it's never "the latest"
[01:05] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: i tried installing those new packages
[01:05] <replman> What's the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new?
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: mmmhmm?
[01:05] <_Neil> I think i may already have it enabled from edgy then..
[01:05] <rubyn> is there someone that can send me the kubuntu7 dvd?
[01:05] <giovani> replman: no idea -- google it
[01:05] <giovani> bbl
[01:06] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: but it gave me an error, saying it couldnt, but now adept thinks it did, the update tool still wont open, and clicking full upgrade looks like its goonna upgrade everything
[01:06] <_Neil> need to get real working in firefox somehow... hmm
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> then try again
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> "google it"
[01:07] <coreymon77> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 793 not upgraded.
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> so much for the famous ubuntu hospitality
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: cool, now sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:07] <Whiz2> anyone know how to install the GD module that was supposed to come with PHP5?
[01:07] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: what is going on her
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> (NOT dist-upgrade)
[01:07] <Whiz2> i somehow managed to not get it
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: adept is being evil
[01:07] <Sanne> Whiz2: usually those modules are separate installs
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> looks like your sources are already set for feisty
[01:08] <Sanne> Whiz2: I try to find the package name for you, sec
[01:08] <Whiz2> ty
[01:08] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: why are a billion packages being held back
[01:08] <Sanne> Whiz2: feisty?
[01:08] <fignew> mirrors are so slow right now :(
[01:08] <Whiz2> huh?
[01:09] <Sanne> Whiz2: which kubuntu version do you use?
[01:09] <Whiz2> the one before feisty i think
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: because you didn't explicitly tell it to install those
[01:09] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: is this okay? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16455/
[01:09] <Whiz2> how do I find out?
[01:09] <Graham> Umm... I've got a very very very bad problem.
[01:09] <skript> damn, I hope feisty won't break my system like edgy did when I upgraded with command line apt-get
[01:10] <Whiz2> Sanne: how do i find out the version?
[01:10] <Sanne> Whiz2: doesn't matter anyway, I just see the package name is php5-gd (you said you want it for php5, yes?).
[01:10] <Graham> Update manager just error'd on me.
[01:10] <Graham> and It won't tell me why.
[01:10] <Sanne> Whiz2: lsb_release -a
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that doesn't look right :\
[01:10] <Whiz2> yes
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: pastebin your sources.list
[01:10] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: what, the pastebin psot
[01:11] <Whiz2> dapper
[01:11] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: yup, they are all fesity
[01:11] <Jisao> do you have the torrent link for kubuntu?
[01:11] <Sanne> Whiz2: oh, that's two before feisty :). I'm also still on Dapper. So, install the package php5-gd
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[01:12] <Whiz2> will that reinstall PHP5 or just the GD module?
[01:12] <Graham> Has anybody here tried updating to Fiesty with the web update and had the updater crash when installing the files?
[01:12] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: change em back?
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: yeah, you want to go back to edgy
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i think that's why you're not getting the updater
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and make sure you have the edgy-updates repo enabled
[01:12] <replman> seems nvidia-glx works find for me, tnx!
[01:12] <coreymon77> is there any way to change them all to edgy without having to manually do it
[01:13] <coreymon77> like a replace command
[01:13] <Sanne> Whiz2: just this module. There are still some more php modules that don't come installed by default, you can find them in adept or on packages.ubuntu.com. They start with php5.
[01:13] <replman> pretty fast ;-)
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> find and replace in kate
[01:14] <Whiz2> Sanne: ty one more question... once i install the module, doI need to configure anything in PHP5, or in Apache, or anywhere else to make it work on my server?
[01:14] <Sanne> Whiz2: if php and apache work now, they should continue to work. You might need to restart apache, however.
[01:15] <hueyg> Anyone have a second to help a windows traitor?
[01:15] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay, apt-get updating now
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> windows traitor?
[01:15] <Whiz2> changed from windows to linux huh?
[01:15] <Graham> Oh no no no no no!!!!
[01:15] <Sanne> Whiz2: usually the installation of the module should make sure it gets enabled.
[01:15] <hueyg> Trying to switch yes
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> switchers welcome :)
[01:15] <Whiz2> Sanne: ty
[01:15] <coreymon77> new converts always welcome
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> defeat the eeeeevil empire!
[01:16] <Sanne> Whiz2: you're welcome :)
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> or something like that
[01:16] <hueyg> not a computer idiot, but I am a Windows baby so that is my perspective
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> hueyg: i was too
[01:16] <hueyg> Here is my question
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> well, i was a DOS baby, but i used windows for a long time...
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> go right ahead
[01:16] <hueyg> Running Dapper version of Ubuntu
[01:16] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay, apt-get updated and and apt-get upgrading the 4 kde packages left
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: there ya go :)
[01:17] <Whiz2> uh-oh... says there is a dependency problem on one of the files, but is removing it anyway... should i be worried? (apt-get install php5-gd)
[01:17] <Sanne> Whiz2: wait
[01:17] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: now the update tool will appear
[01:17] <coreymon77> \?
[01:17] <_Johny> I reinstalled kubuntu remaning my /home/ directory. Now Amarok doesn't run anymore
[01:18] <Sanne> Whiz2: (first, please type my name, in case you wanted to talk to me, so I get notified by my chat client). Can you paste the message to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> you finished the apt-get upgrade
[01:18] <Aarin> hey ppl. i've got a question. when i try to install the kubuntu 7.04 alternate on my PIV 3.0ghz, i've got a question about my disc drive controler.
[01:18] <coreymon77> wait
[01:18] <coreymon77> almost
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> it won't yet
[01:19] <Aarin> i've got a ATA disc and a SATA disc
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll have to launch the adept manager and fetch updates again
[01:19] <Whiz2> Sanne: You want me to paste the entire apt-get install message? I have the entire thing on my screen...
[01:19] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay, running adep\
[01:19] <Aarin> any ideias about what should I chose?
[01:20] <Sanne> Whiz2: well, if you can. But to paste.ubuntu-nl.org, not here.
[01:20] <Bebe_`> question: K3B does alow you to burn .iso's right?
[01:20] <Graham> Guys, my network upgrade of Fiesty threw an error, but it didn't say what went wrong, it downloaded the packages and was half way through installing them, what should I do?
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Bebe_`: most certainly does :)
[01:20] <Bebe_`> Thanks
[01:20] <Bebe_`> :)
[01:21] <Aarin> there's a lot of stuff i don't know about, but there was a choice with the name: ide-scsi
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> re-run update-manager?
[01:22] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: working on it
[01:22] <Graham> Daisuke_Ido: Says that update-manager command isn't found.
[01:23] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: okay, now to try and get the release announcement
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> coreymon77: just keep retrying if it doesn't come through
[01:23] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: i know
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> but hey, farther than last time :)
[01:24] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: ice been througn this part before
[01:24] <rfarias> hello how can i upgrade to feisty release
[01:24] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: no, ive been through this part
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> ...oh :(
[01:24] <kkathman> rfarias:  change your sources.lst, do an update and a dist-upgrade
[01:25] <slicknick> so is the a similar site to tinyurl but for images/screenshots?
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> slicknick: tinypic
[01:25] <rfarias> i already have the feisty beta..
[01:25] <Whiz2> Sanne: the URL is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457/
[01:25] <rolando> hola
[01:25] <rfarias> hola
[01:25] <Sanne> Whiz2: looking...
[01:25] <rfarias> kkathman: already have the feisty beta version
[01:26] <rfarias> change source list?
[01:26] <rfarias> what source list?
[01:26] <rolando> if i get the feisty iso and install it over my edgy, is that a good thing?
[01:26] <slicknick> Daisuke_Ido: doesnt require registartion does it ?
[01:26] <Sanne> Whiz2: you mean the removal of libgd2-noxpm? Let's see what it does.
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think so
[01:26] <rolando> en /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <kkathman> rfarias:  if you have the beta installed, you should just be able to do a dist-upgrade then
[01:27] <Whiz2> Sanne: i thought it swaid GD dependeed on it?
[01:27] <kkathman> but check your sources anway just in case
[01:27] <Sanne> Whiz2: you're getting a new one called libgd2-xpm, I think that's related. Lets see what those do. Sec.
[01:27] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: forget it, ill do it tomorrow
[01:27] <Graham> My update crashed, I think I can continue with apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:27] <Aarin> can anyone help me?
[01:27] <Graham> Seems to be working.
[01:28] <rfarias> thanks
[01:28] <Whiz2> Sanne: How do I restart my Apache server?
[01:28] <Sanne> Whiz2: wait, I'm busy finding info about those packages :)
[01:28] <rfarias> so if i do sudo aptitude update and i haven't any upgrade
[01:29] <Whiz2> Sanne: ok
[01:29] <rfarias> i'm on upgrade?
[01:29] <slicknick> anyone seen rdesktop behave like this before?
[01:29] <slicknick> whoot
[01:29] <slicknick> shoot
[01:29] <david_> Hello, MySQLquestion here.... I know I can goto their site and download it but is there a package WITH Ubuntu i can use?
[01:29] <slicknick> cant paste hrm
[01:29] <Sanne> Whiz2: ah, seems a package gets replaced by another one with additional functionality. Look at those descriptions, old package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libgd2-noxpm   new package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libgd2-xpm
[01:30] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a huge problem upgrading to feisty....can anyone here help??
[01:30] <Whiz2> Sanne: brb looking...
[01:30] <Random_Transit> i'm using update-manager to do the upgrade
[01:30] <kkathman> Random_Transit:  we might, if you tell us the problem :)
[01:30] <wondering> How would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?
[01:30] <wondering> I've tried Reconstructor, UCK, and a few others with no success.
[01:30] <Random_Transit> and it stops and gives me this error: and when it goes to
[01:30] <Random_Transit> err
[01:31] <Random_Transit> and it stops and gives me this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[01:31] <wondering> It would be a custom CD.
[01:31] <boggystudios> what should I type in to look at the partitioning scheme on the command line?
[01:31] <wondering> boggystudios: fdisk -l
[01:31] <Random_Transit> boggystudios df -h also works
[01:32] <david_> Can anyone please tell me where to get ubuntu's offical MySQL server package?
[01:32] <Whiz2> Sanne: Same package, different name? works for me lol Ok back to my last question. how do I restart the Apache server?
[01:33] <slicknick> anyone seen rdesktop behave like this before?  http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4g9bnd1
[01:33] <slicknick> dual monitor
[01:33] <Sanne> Whiz2: no, the new one has xpm support, the old one not. Let me get you the apache restart command, sec.
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> weird.
[01:33] <Whiz2> Sanne: ty
[01:33] <Random_Transit> so, anyone got an answer for my question? sorry if i'm being overly persistant, but it's really bugging me
[01:34] <Sanne> Whiz2: do you have apache2 or apache?
[01:34] <Whiz2> Sanne: 2 i believe
[01:34] <Whiz2> Sanne: lemme double check
[01:35] <Sanne> Whiz2: ok
[01:35] <iain> hey guys quick question which is causing big problems over here
[01:35] <iain> i use my laptop in the lecture hall
[01:35] <iain> and I'm running kubuntu
[01:35] <iain> I've muted the speakers
[01:35] <iain> but can't figure out where the option to stop the system beep is
[01:35] <iain> ...
[01:35] <Whiz2> Sanne: Yeah it's apache2
[01:35] <iain> anyone know?
[01:36] <Sanne> Whiz2: the command is: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:37] <iain> ...please?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> iain: no idea
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> in konsole?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> or in the ttys?
[01:38] <Whiz2> Sanne: sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2 command not found <--- i'll just reboot the machine lol
[01:38] <massimiliano> ciao atutti
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !it | massimiliano
[01:38] <ubotu> massimiliano: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:38] <Sanne> iain: quick search, dunno if it applies to kubuntu, hope it helps: http://khaoohs.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/howto-turn-off-mute-system-beep/
[01:39] <Sanne> Whiz2: that's very weird.
[01:39] <Sanne> Whiz2: you can also manage apache in kcontrol->services
[01:39] <Whiz2> Sanne: init.d never works for me
[01:40] <rafaello> hello, plugins for audio in mpeg and avi?
[01:40] <Sanne> Whiz2: it's : kcontrol->system administration->system services
[01:40] <Sanne> Whiz2: I wonder why...
[01:40] <Whiz2> Sanne: ty hang on lemme see if that'll work
[01:40] <underdog5004> my ISP is blocking my port 80...how can I get around this?
[01:40] <Aarin> ppl i need some help. what should I choose when the installer asks me which is my hard disk controller?
[01:40] <wondering> How would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?
[01:40] <USMarine> use torrent
[01:40] <Graham> underdog5004: Ask them to unblock it.
[01:41] <underdog5004> Graham, yeah...that'll work
[01:41] <underdog5004> lol
[01:41] <underdog5004> graham, they block it so I can pay them to host a site...I think
[01:41] <Aarin> anyone?
[01:41] <USMarine> Aarin your chipset
[01:42] <Whiz2> Sanne: where do i find kcontrol?
[01:42] <Sanne> Whiz2: just type it in konsole for now
[01:42] <Aarin> i've got an PIV 3.0ghz. and ATA disk and an SATA disk
[01:43] <Aarin> this is asked in the alternate install
[01:46] <wondering> How would I make a command line only LiveCD that's based on kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso ?
[01:46] <Graham> underdog5004: I know a site with awesome hosting.
[01:46] <Aarin> USMarine, your asking for the CPU chipset right?
[01:47] <USMarine> yes
[01:47] <rfarias> the upgrader for kubuntu doesn't wxist  for me
[01:47] <USMarine> i never used the alternate
[01:47] <USMarine> so i dunno what you're talking about
[01:47] <Aarin> USMarine, its an Pentium 4 at 3.0ghz so its 32bits.
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> so?
[01:48] <Aarin> USMarine, i've got an ATA disk and an SATA disk
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> what does 32 bit have to do with anything?
[01:48] <rfarias> how can i know if i've got the latest version of kubuntu
[01:48] <Aarin> so what do you mean exactly with the CPU chipset? example plz
[01:48] <rfarias> ???
[01:49] <N0Lif3|lappy> I use the plain clock type in kubuntu. How do I set it to a 12-hour time format. I'd prefer it to say 4:50 right now instead of 16:50..
[01:49] <N0Lif3|lappy> ?
[01:49] <Sanne> rfarias: what does this command tell you (if it's feisty, then it's latest): lsb_release -a
[01:49] <rfarias> right click on the clock and configure
[01:49] <Aarin> N0Lif3|lappy, no idea I prefer the 24h format :P
[01:50] <Whiz2> Sanne: ty according to the PHP forum i have on my server, the GD module is now installed. :-)
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> right click the clock > date & time format
[01:50] <N0Lif3|lappy> rfarias: and then? I see no 12-hour format option
[01:51] <Sanne> Whiz2: awesome! A tip: you can add this kcontrol app to the panel as an applet, it's called "settings, control center modules menu"
[01:51] <rfarias> Sanne: i download firsttime the beta, i'm still stay with it
[01:51] <rfarias> so i update some things
[01:51] <rfarias> but i dont know if i have the release verions
[01:51] <Sanne> rfarias: if you updated today, you should have the latest versions, as feisty is out.
[01:51] <Whiz2> Sanne: is there a way to acces from the k menu?
[01:52] <rfarias> i didn' update anithing from thursday
[01:52] <bridgette> what is the command to determine the version of kubuntu that I am currently running (terminal)
[01:52] <Aarin> USMarine, any ideia on what should I choose?
[01:52] <Sanne> Whiz2: I believe kubuntu uses the system settings app, and took out kcontrol. You can add it manually to the kmenu: open the menu, right click somewhere and choose "edit" to go to the menu editor.
[01:52] <USMarine> what options do you have
[01:53] <rfarias> Sanne: i didnt update anything from thursday+
[01:53] <Aarin> USMarine, lots of them. in the middle there are some options with the names: ide-disk, ide-scsi, ide-floppy
[01:54] <USMarine> load them all if you can
[01:54] <USMarine> it wont harm
[01:54] <Aarin> USMarine, the others i don't know them form anywhere.
[01:54] <Aarin> *from
[01:54] <Sanne> rfarias: hm, I don't know really, I'm still on Dapper. But if you had feisty beta you would get the release version now if you update. If there#s nothing to update, you already should have the latest of everything.
[01:54] <Whiz2> Sanne: tyvm for your help. I'm outta here
[01:54] <Sanne> Whiz2: you're welcome :)
[01:55] <rfarias> thanks Sanne
[01:55] <Sanne> dang too slow...
[01:55] <USMarine> Aarin load them all
[01:55] <rfarias> other question
[01:55] <ubuntu> Hey guys I'm installing Kubuntu 7.04 right now and the installation just got stuck at 82% ( Scanning the mirror...) what can I do :S ?
[01:55] <Sanne> rfarias: you're welcome also :)
[01:55] <rfarias> where can i get the typical kubuntu user #
[01:55] <kkathman> you can wait (everybody's hitting the mirror probably)
[01:55] <bridgette> what is the command to determine the version of kubuntu that I am currently running (terminal)
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: wait on it, repos are toasted right now
[01:56] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: ok... Thanks
[01:56] <orient2000> wait 5 minutes
[01:56] <rfarias> bridgette: lsb_release -a
[01:56] <bridgette> thanks!
[01:56] <Sanne> rfarias: what do you mean by that? You are an ubuntu user, I'm also.
[01:56] <rfarias> welcome :)
[01:56] <rfarias> yep but the counter
[01:56] <rfarias> for example kubuntu user #21433421
[01:56] <Skyblast> My distro upgrade is going at about 25k right now... I'm probably lucky I'm getting that much "_
[01:57] <Sanne> rfarias: you want to register at the ubuntu counter?
[01:57] <bridgette> interesting, it says Ubuntu 6.06.1, shouldn't that be Kubuntu?
[01:58] <rfarias> yep Sanne
[01:58] <Aarin> USMarine, the IDE ones or every single one of the list?
[01:58] <rfarias> but kubuntu counter XDexist?
[01:58] <Sanne> rfarias: you can do so here: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/
[01:58] <Aarin> USMarine, they are a lot of them (30 at least)
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> bridgette: same OS
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> different DE
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all that's different between the two :0
[01:59] <bobby> should i upgrade or from scratch
[01:59] <Sanne> bridgette: we're all one happy family, after all ;)
[01:59] <bridgette> ah, so we are really ubuntu running a kde desktop - got it, I'm learning
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> bridgette: no worries, there's also xubuntu to confuse things even more
[01:59] <bridgette> yeah, i'm much happier now that vista has been removed from all partitions
[01:59] <chad_> whats up from maine i am trying to connect to irc.battlefoundry.net and am having a hard time whats going on?
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu with xfce
[01:59] <Sanne> bridgette: almost. We're running kde with customizations from kubuntu, to be exact.
[01:59] <rfarias> dime
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> from vista to kubuntu?  that IS an upgrade :)
[02:00] <Aarin> and nubuntu (ubuntu with fluxbox)
[02:00] <chad_> I seemed to have no prob getting on this server, am overlooking something
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and edubuntu (ubuntu with a default set of education packages installed)
[02:00] <Sanne> bridgette: congrats and welcome to linux :)
[02:00] <tony134340> don't forget the gaybuntu distro
[02:00] <chad_> my usb auto mount broke with an upgrade and they have not fixed it
[02:00] <tony134340> christian ubuntu
[02:00] <bridgette> yes, i use linux at work and finally got brave enough to use it at home - thanks for the help guys!
[02:01] <tony134340> edubuntu
[02:01] <chad_> non secular kubuntu
[02:01] <bobby> has anyone tried to upgrade using the net
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> bobby: i'm working on it now
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's going to be a while before it's done
[02:02] <bobby> great let me know
[02:02] <Skyblast> I am upgrading now, It's a tiny bit better now but not much...
[02:02] <Skyblast> Seem to be getting around 25k
[02:03] <judgen> i iahve a scratch in my vrptch for a discussion? anyone up?
[02:03] <Aarin> i'm trying to install kubuntu again, wish me luck
[02:03] <Skyblast> And since I have ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu desktops... I don't think I'll be using Feisty tonight :)
[02:03] <cheeseboy> ugh it takes 20 min to install 1 thing today
[02:04] <judgen> i only have fluxbuntu and kubuntu
[02:04] <Skyblast> It took me like 15 minutes to get those >100k x11 update things at lunch
[02:04] <judgen> guessing the us servers are slow today
[02:04] <Skyblast> Whenever I reload, I'm not putting xfce back on. It keeps breaking on me.
[02:04] <judgen> ?
[02:05] <Skyblast> Everyone's trying to upgrade to Feisty judgen
[02:05] <rfarias> thnaks everyone
[02:05] <judgen> Skyblast:  apperantly its the DE that wosk best with beryl
[02:05] <rfarias> enjoy kubuntu and the family ubuntu
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> what's scary is more people are probably upgrading to feisty today than upgraded to vista in its first week
[02:05] <rfarias> XD
[02:05] <stoft> Daisuke_Ido: :-D
[02:06] <judgen> 244licenses of vista so far in china
[02:06] <judgen> lol
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> which equates to about...  500,000 copies in use :)
[02:06] <stoft> nn
[02:06] <kkathman> lol
[02:06] <Skyblast> I wonder what China is using... pirated Windows? Linux? BSD?
[02:06] <Skyblast> pirated Linux? :)
[02:06] <judgen> Skyblast:  its a mix
[02:06] <kkathman> Chinix ?
[02:06] <kkathman> Chibuntu ?
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> that sounds like a mexican dish
[02:07] <judgen> BSD  in china is ajoke
[02:07] <Skyblast> Maybe OS X is big over there.
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Skyblast: i really doubt it because i don't think apple sells computers over there.
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> and if they did, the vast majority wouldn't be able to afford them anyway
[02:07] <Skyblast> Really? hmm
[02:08] <Pharsalus> Greetings, Is anyone else having problems installing the Ubuntu-restricted-extras package on Kubuntu 7.04?
[02:08] <judgen> Skyblast:  considering how much they have sol compared to TP in china (000.1) its nothing.
[02:08] <Skyblast> Yeah that's true. You pay nice change for that apple logo.
[02:08] <Graham> I made it!
[02:08] <madmike> almost time to upgrade oh yeah
[02:08] <Sanne> Graham: congrats
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> Graham:  :P
[02:08] <Graham> It's not all that different really.
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> now if i can finish the upgrade process
[02:08] <Skyblast> It looks like I am going to be upgrading for the next 8 hours.
[02:09] <judgen> a via-complete mobo costs 9 as a private person in korea
[02:09] <madmike> I'm just doing a fresh install
[02:09] <Skyblast> I probably should just do a fresh too, but meh.. I can be patient
[02:09] <BluesKaj> plenty of linux users in china according to reports , ...gov't is thinking  of banning it...it's like MS , the gov't can't control the spread of open source...goes against their policy
[02:10] <madmike> Just backed up the good stuff the ISO just finshed writeing now I'm off be back in a bit
[02:10] <Pharsalus> Any news links to back up the story on Chinese government banning open source?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> the internet is democratic , whether bejing likes it or not
[02:10] <judgen> BluesKaj: bullplop! they wont ban it, they will just restrict opensource to only do things legal in china (wich in their wright)
[02:11] <Graham> China has more problems to deal with than open source.
[02:11] <BluesKaj> i wish therm luck
[02:12] <judgen> BluesKaj: have you even read the stuf about chineese legislation?
[02:12] <replman> does anyone know how to enable beryl with kubuntu? I installed beryl-kubuntu using adept. Du i have to edit xorg.conf?
[02:12] <philphoto> have the Feisty developers ironed out all the wrinkles in the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[02:12] <Graham> See, what should of happened, is we just don't co-operate with them. They'll either need to relax their batty to keep the economy, or nuke the US.
[02:12] <dsmith> "One word around town is that Michael Dell himself uses the latest version of Ubuntu", I wonder if he has been here before.
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Pharsalus, i wish i had real proof ,but I'm justy quoting a guy who works with my daughter in TaiPei.
[02:12] <judgen> BluesKaj: the ammendum will completley stop all commercial endevours in china that don provide source to CCP
[02:13] <Graham> Thing is, people can leave China can't they. One of my dads friends married some chinese woman.
[02:13] <Pharsalus> Anyway, I have an issue with Adept/Ubuntu-restricted-extras package, I get the error cannot comit, break packages or something. Any ideas?
[02:13] <judgen> philphoto: you might not get the increasd bootup speed
[02:13] <jordo23> Happy release day...
[02:14] <bobby> i just look at the release note on ubuntu ,Do all these new features apply to kubuntu
[02:14] <tony134340> dsmith: not rumour, it says on the Dell site he uses it
[02:14] <judgen> Graham: before 1976 thoy couldnt legally do it
[02:14] <dsmith> ahhhhh coool
[02:15] <dsmith> philphoto: do you takes pictures of young lass's?
[02:15] <philphoto> judgen: bah, no big deal about increased boot speed.  I mean that bugs that caused me a few big problems  which forced a fresh install of 6.10
[02:15] <judgen> dsmith:  behave
[02:15] <Graham> Question, in adpet package manager on fiesty, what does the little kubuntu logo mean next to packages?
[02:15] <dsmith> judgen: I was asking a question
[02:15] <tony134340> how many here heard of k/ubuntu through digg.com?
[02:15] <dsmith> not I
[02:15] <Graham> Non.
[02:15] <philphoto> dsmith: i'm a professional.  I take photos of everything.
[02:16] <BluesKaj> tony134340,  ever heard of google :)
[02:16] <Graham> I heard of Ubuntu from a guy I used to know. Did custom levels for Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory, was a cool guy.
[02:16] <dsmith> ok, I have just seen that name before..
[02:16] <boggystudios> Is it not possible to run 'sudo fdisk -l' through ssh?
[02:16] <philphoto> dsmith:  this is who I am: http://www.americanphotojournalist.com/member.php?user=NMCB4PH2
[02:16] <tony134340> yeah, been using linux for years, but digg has an army of ubuntu fanboys
[02:17] <Graham> Doesn't digg also have an army of emos?
[02:17] <judgen> philphoto: except the update to upstart *.* version will make your distro an feisty with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:17] <Graham> It'd suck to command an emo army, they'd get upset and kill themselves before battle.
[02:18] <tony134340> don't know, i'm not one of them
[02:18] <Jamie> Hi. Can I force the Feisty DVD to install the same programs as the CD, no more ?
[02:18] <judgen> the only reasons to take photos is to 1.show them off, 2. remember stuff. Test your skill
[02:18] <judgen> there are no other reasons
[02:19] <philphoto> judgen: last time I did it, it was fine for a few days then during an update of grub, the system returned a kernel panic error on reboot, & I couldn't for the life of me fix it
[02:19] <tony134340> Jamie, yeah, i think it does by default, don't quote me on it
[02:19] <judgen> Phildid you try to fix grib?
[02:20] <intelikey> well i'm back,   i think.
[02:20] <philphoto> I tried but couldn't get it done.  my computer magic is not that strong.  this is my first full month with linux
[02:20] <Jamie> tony... thx. I don't know which to download the CD or DVD... is there a list of differences, I couldn't find it.A?
[02:20] <steve_> test...can people see this?
[02:21] <Graham> steve_: No, have you tried changing your IRC settings?
[02:21] <jordo23> just to make sure....I can generate a feisty sources.list and dist upgrade that way right.....
[02:21] <intelikey> steve_ no
[02:21] <Jamie> Can someone please point me to the list of differences between the cd and dvd ?
[02:21] <steve_> ok so i guess no one in the support channels feels like helping me out
[02:21] <jordo23> are there any complications upgrading in that manner?
[02:21] <Graham> jordo23: Yeah, the update is basicly a package update but on a larger scale.
[02:21] <jordo23> Graham: thanks....that's what I thought, but I am such a chicken like that (lol)
[02:22] <jordo23> gotta make sure
[02:22] <intelikey> steve_ possably not.   what was the issue anyway ?
[02:22] <shawn34> so, anyone run the update yet?
[02:22] <tony134340> Jamie, i think the DVD has the main repository software, plus the alternate cd and server edition
[02:22] <jordo23> I can't get it running under Adept....is this because if overload?
[02:22] <steve_> well i'm trying this ubuntu out and i'm running into a lot of problems.  first of all i can't unmaximize my windows
[02:22] <steve_> i click maximize and then if i click the button again nothing happens
[02:23] <Jamie> tony... thnx again.
[02:23] <Jamie> bfn
[02:23] <jordo23> For me the automatic adept upgrader won't get past the announcement download....
[02:23] <LK> hi, I want to mount /dev/sda6 in live cd?
[02:23] <jordo23> Has anyone else seen this?
[02:23] <LK> its ntfs
[02:23] <shawn34> anyone have any issues with the feisty upgrade?
[02:23] <jordo23> shawn34: the automatic upgrader...
[02:24] <shawn34> jordo23, what about it?
[02:24] <intelikey> steve_ hmmmm never seen that,    try just resizing them ?       steve also if it's "ubuntu" not "kubuntu"  the help channel is  #ubuntu   for that.
[02:24] <BluesKaj> yeah shawn34, it upgraded without my knowledge :)
[02:24] <shawn34> lol
[02:24] <shawn34> hows that?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> 2 days ago
[02:25] <LK> hi, I want to mount /dev/sda6 in live cd, partition is ntfs I can mount it, but I have not root permisson to open?
[02:26] <intelikey> lk  sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/sda6
[02:26] <BluesKaj> was running beta , morning upgrades came down with the official pkg but they didn't indicate that it was the final
[02:26] <LK> thanks
[02:27] <glock24> hola
[02:27] <intelikey> LK writing on ntfs from linux "may" cause errors on the ntfs
[02:27] <intelikey> LK just so you know.
[02:28] <LK> mount: can't find /dev/sda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:28] <intelikey> so supply the mountpoint also
[02:29] <LK> ok
[02:29] <LK> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:30] <intelikey> i thought you said it was mounted
[02:30] <LK> hmmm, I thought it was
[02:30] <intelikey> lk  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda6 /<mountpoint>
[02:32] <LK> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6
[02:32] <LK> what is going on?
[02:32] <hagabaka> how can I reset the KMenu entries according to which packages are installed?
[02:33] <intelikey> LK i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you have the wrong device
[02:33] <intelikey> LK sudo fdisk -l
[02:33] <voidmage> Is it just me or does anyone else feel kubuntu is missing out on a lot of stuff ubuntu has?
[02:33] <voidmage> such as the easy codec manger, restricted-manager, migration-assistant
[02:33] <voidmage> honestly, i think it a miracle kubuntu even got networkmanager
[02:33] <BluesKaj> voidmage, like what ?
[02:34] <flaccid> i agree
[02:34] <voidmage> The things that aren't gnome specific never even made it into kubuntu
[02:34] <flaccid> kubuntu doesn't exactly have admin features like that
[02:35] <LK> its the right device, I've checked with that command and looked in Konqueror
[02:35] <hagabaka> "Restricted Manager provides a Gnome user interface for configuring ..."
[02:36] <voidmage> Despite that restricted manager was originally made for gnome, I still feel there should be a kde port for it
[02:37] <hagabaka> that would probably be nice
[02:37] <voidmage> It seems like something that should Just Be There
[02:37] <hagabaka> what does it do anyway?
[02:37] <voidmage> manages restricted drivers
[02:37] <voidmage> such as nvidia
[02:37] <voidmage> Click a checkbox and it installs the driver and sets up your xorg.conf
[02:37] <BluesKaj> so , in kde what's to configure ? ... perhaps I'm missing something , but i find kde much more user friendly for us former widows users .
[02:37] <hagabaka> oh
[02:37] <LK> I've now tryed it on other partiton and on another drive! same result, if I put faluse dev in it says mount: special device /dev/XXXX does not exist
[02:37] <chemicalvamp> hmm windoze says 1.86 ghz.. kubuntu says 2193.702 mhz one more reason i prefer linux :)
[02:38] <voidmage> the easy codec manager should be there too, IMO
[02:38] <hagabaka> i don't like the "System Settings" thing
[02:38] <voidmage> amarok's mp3 download script doesn't work right half the time
[02:38] <voidmage> and the way it's set up in gnome now
[02:38] <voidmage> if you play a mp3
[02:39] <voidmage> gstreamer or whatever calls apt to download it
[02:39] <hagabaka> kcontrol is much easier to navigate for me, and more "complete"...
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> evening all
[02:39] <dec> anyone know how to upgrade to the new version, I went on the website and cannot get upgrade manager to show the updates
[02:39] <hagabaka> but for some reason i don't have a kmenu entry for kcontrol, only "System Settings"
[02:39] <voidmage> are you running edgy?
[02:39] <dec> yes
[02:40] <voidmage> hmm
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php
[02:40] <Sanne> hagabaka: you can add kcontrol to your panel as an applet
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> does that help at all?
[02:40] <voidmage> did you add 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main' to your sources.list?
[02:40] <hagabaka> i just want it in the menu. i could add that myself too, but shouldn't it be there by default?
[02:41] <voidmage> kubuntu by default uses systemsettings
[02:41] <voidmage> you could easily add it to the menu
[02:41] <hagabaka> i know
[02:42] <hagabaka> but why isn't it in the menu by default?
[02:42] <hagabaka> at least it should be in the Systems submenu
[02:42] <voidmage> Because kubuntu uses systemsettings by default
[02:43] <hagabaka> that doesn't mean a similar application should be "hidden"
[02:43] <hagabaka> if the user installs both, they probably want both
[02:43] <hagabaka> and even if i remove systemsettings, kcontrol doesn't get added to the kmenu automatically either
[02:43] <dec> is there a way to install the new version of ubuntu from terminal
[02:44] <voidmage> hagabaka: kubuntu-desktop also depends on kcontrol
[02:44] <shawn34> anyone kelp me out with Ktorrent? after the download finishes it stops uploading
[02:44] <hagabaka> and?
[02:44] <shawn34> and 'keep seeding after download finishes' is selected
[02:45] <BloodyTux> back
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> how is it possible to hide behind something clear?
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> PCI: Bus #06 (-#09) is hidden behind transparent bridge #05 (-#06) (try 'pci=assign-busses')
[02:46] <hagabaka> for a standard package like this, i think it should just come with a kmenu. requiring the user to add it themselves doesn't make sense...if they remove kcontrol, or if the executable name changes in the future, the user would be able to expected to maintain the menu entry too
[02:46] <intelikey> someone with an ntfs care to test this for me                  dd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T                       <<< assuming the ntfs is on hda1.   adjust accordingly
[02:46] <hagabaka> my sentence didn't make much sdnse :(
[02:47] <hagabaka> *the user shouldn't be expected to maintain the menu entry in case the executable changes name or the kcontrol package was removed
[02:48] <BloodyTux> !trivia
[02:48] <ubotu> The #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> !Kubuntu-Trivia
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-trivia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <BloodyTux> :)
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Anybody happen to have the md5sum for the amd64 DVD image? I couldn't find it on the site
[02:49] <BluesKaj> those gnome luvers aren't a friendly bunch
[02:50] <intelikey> hagabaka install menu  the debian menu entry for kcontrol is in  kmenu > debian menu > apps > system
[02:51] <hagabaka> hmm, i don't see "debian menu"
[02:51] <intelikey> did you install menu  ?
[02:51] <tony134340> dl'ing kubuntu 7.04 right now, can someone tell me if it's worth the upgrade? from what I hear, ubuntu got all the new stuff
[02:51] <voidmage> yeah, kubuntu kind of got shafted
[02:51] <ash211> kubuntu has knetworkmanager, which I like
[02:51] <voidmage> still worth upgrading though
[02:52] <ash211> definitely
[02:52] <ash211> more fine-grained powermanager controls
[02:52] <BluesKaj> tony134340, they need it :)
[02:52] <voidmage> don't want to see kubuntu just get restricted-manager, etc in gutsy
[02:52] <voidmage> and still be a release behind
[02:52] <hagabaka> intelikey: i just reinstalled menu, and it's still not there...in the KDE Menu Editor, there's a Debian submenu, but nothing in it
[02:53] <voidmage> you need menu-xdg
[02:53] <giovani> would anyone mind checking out my feisty installation booting error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414249
[02:53] <intelikey> hagabaka then i don't know what they broke.    worked well in 6.6
[02:53] <hagabaka> menu-xdg isn't installed by default right?
[02:54] <voidmage> nope
[02:54] <voidmage> that's what gives the full debian menu
[02:54] <hagabaka> oh
[02:55] <intelikey> oh is it -xdg ?
[02:55] <intelikey> i think menu must have depended on it in dapper
[02:55] <intelikey> nope....   hmmm
[02:55] <giovani> well, unfortunately, I have to run -- but if anyone has any ideas -- please respond to that thread
[02:58] <BloodyTux> anyone need help
[02:59] <intelikey> apt-cache show menu    "Description: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications Debian menu keeps transparently the menus in the different window-managers in sync with the list of installed programs."
[02:59] <intelikey> BloodyTux yeah care to test something ?
[02:59] <Pharsalus> Hi, noob question. I'm trying to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package through add/remove programs, and I keep getting the error shown below. I'm using Kubuntu 7.04. Any assistance will be appreciated. "There was an error committing changes, possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[02:59] <BloodyTux> sure
[02:59] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/hda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T
[02:59] <BloodyTux> will it kill me?
[02:59] <intelikey> no
[02:59] <BloodyTux> whats it for?
[03:00] <intelikey> verifying the fs type
[03:00] <BloodyTux> Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
[03:00] <BloodyTux> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[03:00] <voidmage> Pharsalus: try installing it through the command line and see what happens
[03:00] <voidmage> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:00] <chemicalvamp> whats a good p2p?
[03:01] <voidmage> amule?
[03:01] <BloodyTux> i like frostwire
[03:01] <intelikey> BloodyTux oh i should have mentioned the device needs to be an ntfs partition.    asjust the  hda1 accordingly
[03:01] <BloodyTux> ...
[03:01] <chemicalvamp> yuo thats what i was thinking about
[03:01] <flaccid> !find azureus
[03:01] <ubotu> Found: azureus, azureus-gcj
[03:01] <flaccid> !info azureus
[03:01] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[03:01] <hagabaka> i see
[03:01] <BloodyTux> !frostwire
[03:01] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:01] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/sda1 count=1 2>/dev/null | cut -c55-62 | grep T    <<<< feisty maybe
[03:01] <BloodyTux> i'm not ntfs
[03:01] <BloodyTux> i'm ext3 or 2
[03:02] <intelikey> k i've tested there it returns silently
[03:02] <hagabaka> is it possible to let kmenu display the xdg menu at top level instead of its "own" content?
[03:02] <voidmage> no clue, never tried that
[03:02] <hagabaka> or is there an alternative applet that does it?
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> BloodyTux fdisk -l (thats an L) to see what your filesystems are
[03:02] <intelikey> should be
[03:03] <intelikey> chemicalvamp do you have any ntfs on your box ?
[03:03] <chemicalvamp> i have before, not anymore
[03:03] <intelikey> k
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> yay, up to 30% on the upgrade.  file 186 of 911 :\
[03:04] <intelikey> 911
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> 2am at the earliest :\
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> and i doubt i'll even be up then
[03:04] <chemicalvamp> Daisuke_Ido are you using the edgy -> feisty upgrade tool?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> chemicalvamp: yes i am
[03:05] <intelikey> we may need to call that nine eleven number what was the number again ?
[03:06] <intelikey> ok like what's the number for nine one one </blond>
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa, the speed just peaked on me...  36kb/s
[03:07] <intelikey> short livedd
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> back to 20 :)
[03:07] <intelikey> ten times what i can get
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i should have just downloaded the alternate install cd and used that as a repo to upgrade
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> would have been so much faster
[03:08] <intelikey> you can always cancel at any time
[03:08] <intelikey> and resume when you want
[03:09] <intelikey> apt is kewl that way
[03:09] <Daisuke_Ido> then they need to fix the warning that says "once started you cannot stop and restart" :\
[03:09] <Endler> I'm wishing I would have done the same thing.  I'm 8 hours into my distro upgrade, and at 65%.
[03:10] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido lol  well maybe the script will puke  but normal  apt-get dist-upgrade works fine.
[03:10] <chemicalvamp> Daisuke_Ido i tryed the upgrade tool, got a fatal error at 99% of upgrade fubared everything.. had to reinstall edgy, and burn the feisty install disk
[03:11] <intelikey> yay go automatic krap
[03:11] <Endler> That will suck if it aborts at 99% after 12 hours.
[03:11] <the_hammer> hi how do i know if i got the latest and greatest kubuntu?
[03:11] <the_hammer> is there a command i know for kerns its uname -a
[03:11] <compilerwriter> Yes I have the iso that I am seeding on torrent and have burned a copy of it already.  Adept is getting file 1095 out 1347 or some such stuff.
[03:11] <intelikey> lsb_release -a
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> its a long install online.. like 4 hours downloading (50-60 kbps) and lke 2 hour upgrade
[03:12] <gdiebel> the_hammer: kate -v
[03:12] <compilerwriter> Can I stop adept and use the iso image as source somehow without fubaring everything?
[03:12] <chemicalvamp> hehe fubar
[03:13] <the_hammer> Qt: 3.3.7
[03:13] <the_hammer> KDE: 3.5.6
[03:13] <the_hammer> Kate: 2.5.6
[03:13] <the_hammer> is that the latest?
[03:13] <gdiebel> yep
[03:13] <the_hammer> ok cool
[03:13] <the_hammer> just on the live cd now ill return in a bit
[03:13] <intelikey> compilerwriter idk.   some say it's a gastly thing.
[03:15] <soulrider_> hello
[03:15] <soulrider_> it seems lots of people gor feisty now, i can acces kubuntu.org! :P
[03:16] <compilerwriter> grr 1102 of 1307!  205 friggin files to go.  Whose idea was this freakin update tool anyway?
[03:17] <soulrider_> compilerwriter: i think youre upgrading to feisty ?
[03:17] <compilerwriter> More importantly, though; Why was I dumb enough to use it?
[03:17] <soulrider_> lol
[03:17] <compilerwriter> dapper to edgy was not this ugly.
[03:17] <soulrider_> dont you want feisty ?
[03:17] <soulrider_> well
[03:17] <intelikey> soulrider_ no.
[03:17] <soulrider_> lots of people are downloading, thats why its kinda slow
[03:17] <compilerwriter> Of course I want feisty.
[03:18] <CVirus> Any smooth upgrades yet ?
[03:18] <soulrider_> lol intelikey i know you dont :P
[03:18] <soulrider_> hi juan carlos
[03:18] <intelikey> CVirus how would we know ?    in a help channel    who joins to say    "i have no issues"   ?
[03:19] <Jucato> hi soulrider_
[03:19] <soulrider_> lol intelikey
[03:19] <compilerwriter> It is just ticking me off soulrider_ that I started adept thingy and then started up ktorrent merely to seed the thing for people.
[03:19] <compilerwriter> I have now burned a copy of the blasted iso disk.
[03:20] <compilerwriter> I have even seeded the thing more like 937 meg.
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that wasn't the best idea, i don't think
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> :\
[03:20] <compilerwriter> jucato I am blaming myself for being dumb enough to use update program.
[03:20] <soulrider_> compilerwriter: well, you should ahve just downloaded hte iso
[03:20] <soulrider_> im gonna let it seed all night long
[03:20] <soulrider_> seeding is good, especially this sort of stuff
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not nice
[03:21] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Daisuke_Ido
[03:21] <ubotu> Daisuke_Ido: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:21] <BloodyTux> expo markers smell funny!!! 8D
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> that, um...  didn't work :\
[03:21] <compilerwriter> soulrider_ I figured it would take roughly the same amount of time.
[03:22] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido you are running the updater ?
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i was
[03:22] <soulrider_> compilerwriter: youre sure the uploading is not preventing you from downloading faster ?
[03:22] <BloodyTux> markers............
[03:22] <chemicalvamp> BloodyTux yes, and paint chips taste weird
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider_: i was maxing out at 20k/s with nothing else running
[03:22] <BloodyTux> gas tastes funny too
[03:22] <compilerwriter> My download speed is much faster than my max upload.
[03:22] <BloodyTux> so does crayons
[03:22] <BloodyTux> except macaroni ones
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ooookay
[03:23] <soulrider_> the thing is theres TONS of people downloading from the servers, so speeds arent probably too good
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> can we get a straitjacket for this guy?
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider_: exactly, so i'm dropping the updater and going the fun way
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> install from a live cd
[03:23] <ned__> does kubuntu 7.04 have a restrcted drivers manager like ubuntu 7.04?
[03:23] <BloodyTux> i already am strait
[03:23] <CVirus> ned__: Is this an IQ test ?
[03:23] <BloodyTux> :D
[03:24] <compilerwriter> I have throttled back my upload to only 100k and I have limited the peers to 40 so I doubt it is affecting me much.
[03:24] <ned__> CVirus: what do you meant?
[03:24] <soulrider_> compilerwriter: you can upload REALLY fast!
[03:24] <CVirus> ned__: re-check your statement
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> *only* 100k?
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> blah
[03:24] <compilerwriter> I am supposed to have 160k upload speed so I should be getting my requests to the servers through.
[03:24] <ned__> CVirus: *restricted
[03:25] <soulrider_> holy crap man, my connections maxes out at 12
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ned__: what he meant to say is "yes" because kubuntu is a version of ubuntu
[03:25] <intelikey> CVirus yes and you failed.
[03:25] <BloodyTux> #kubuntu-asylum
[03:25] <chemicalvamp> my old internet connection was 7mbps down and 3 mbps up.. i miss it soo much
[03:25] <Alethes> is it possible for me to donwnload all the packages for an upgrade to feisty with adept without actually installing them right away?
[03:25] <ned__> how do i access it in kubuntu?
[03:25] <intelikey> ned__ any thing in ubuntu "can" be installed in kubuntu also   but by default,  i think not.
[03:25] <CVirus> intelikey: seems so ... just noticed .. LOL
[03:26] <ned__> ok
[03:26] <BloodyTux> ... chemical you wack
[03:26] <Eyeless> !codec
[03:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <BloodyTux> #kubuntu-expomarkersniffinggroup
[03:27] <soulrider_> i think we dont have to enable repos anymore
[03:27] <ned__> i'm installing "restricted-manager" now, i assume it's what i am looking for
[03:27] <ned__> the servers are choked up
[03:27] <BIoodyTux> dont listen to him! he's evil
[03:27] <BloodyTux> ...
[03:27] <BloodyTux> omg
[03:27] <arunkale> Umm, I can't install updates on Edgy after I got a 'can't connect to server' error during upgrading to feisty last night
[03:28] <BloodyTux> #markersniffers
[03:28] <arunkale> it;s not even fetching the headers properly
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> arunkale: check your sources.list
[03:28] <BloodyTux> #kubuntu-i-eat-paint
[03:28] <soulrider_> BloodyTux: chill out a bit dude
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are you can't get edgy updates because all of your repos are now set to feisty :)
[03:28] <BloodyTux> that one was chemicals
[03:29] <compilerwriter> soulrider_ in ktorrent terms what does choked mean and what does snubbed mean?
[03:29] <arunkale> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[03:29] <tony134340> just asking a quick opinion: has anyone here tried ubuntu and is kubuntu much better than ubuntu?
[03:29] <intelikey> tony134340 no
[03:29] <BloodyTux> MUCH BETTER
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tony134340: it's a matter of preference
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> do you like gnome or kde?
[03:30] <BloodyTux> #ubuntuusersofdoom
[03:30] <compilerwriter> I started with ubuntu tony134340 and changed to kubuntu.  Kubuntu is much better.
[03:30] <unix_infidel> !minimal
[03:30] <tony134340> i tried it and i hate to say, i just prefer the look of KDE and the configurations
[03:30] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:30] <intelikey> tony134340 one leg is both the same.
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> tony134340: then this is where you belong
[03:30] <BloodyTux> !sharpies
[03:30] <BloodyTux> :(
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharpies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> we're kde dorks
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> except for intelikey over there, he refuses to touch a gui at all.  i think he just comes here because he's lonely
[03:30] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[03:31] <intelikey> :)
[03:31] <Eyeless> how do i set the default movieplayer for firefox? (its currently toten, but i want to use my player-plugin)
[03:31] <BIoodyTux> how do you un-kickban somebody?
[03:31] <arunkale> ok now it's downloading updates, but still it's way slower than usual
[03:31] <arunkale> are their servers taking a lot of heat
[03:31] <arunkale> coz of the feisty upgrade
[03:31] <BloodyTux> yea you kicked me
[03:31] <BloodyTux> !!!
[03:31] <tony134340> i was just wondering if there was some uber reason or like mine, it just looks and feels better but i haven't used gnome but a few hours over a few years
[03:32] <BloodyTux> #pie
[03:32] <soulrider_> does anyone know whent he next LTS release is comming ?
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> arunkale: more people are downloading feisty *right this second* than have bought vista in all of china
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider_: feisty+1
[03:32] <arunkale> tony134340: gnome is orange and brown. do you really want that? :p
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> well, gutsy
[03:32] <BloodyTux> #goodpie
[03:32] <tony134340> Daisuke_Ido, i was told that number was due to an error in translation or something. vista sucks, but still, hard to believe it's in the lower hundreds
[03:32] <arunkale> I don't care about Vista
[03:32] <soulrider_> it forwards me to #ubuntu
[03:33] <tony134340> arunkale, no, i couldn't stand it
[03:33] <soulrider_> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, totally pwnt
[03:33] <arunkale> tony134340: I got OS X like font rendering on my Kubuntu, and every thing looks awesome
[03:33] <arunkale> the icons, everything
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, here's another one that may be a little more relaistic and closer
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> more people have downloaded feisty today than bought vista in the first week of its release (not including oem, of course)
[03:34] <BloodyTux> i like my channels
[03:34] <soulrider_> arunkale: my KDE looks sexy
[03:34] <intelikey> tony134340 let me nut shell this for you   ubuntu is a GNU-Linux distrobution that uses a default DE of gnome and the name is altered to reflect other optional defaults   such as KDE kubuntu  XFCE xubuntu   and  ED (edcational) edubuntu    it's all one distro.
[03:34] <tony134340> arunkale, yeah, i wish it came like that by default. my last install i configured it as such and it was great
[03:34] <BloodyTux> !sharpies
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharpies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <arunkale> soulrider_: I hear you man
[03:34] <BloodyTux> !markers
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about markers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <BloodyTux> !paint
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <BloodyTux> !drugs
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drugs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <BloodyTux> !nothing
[03:34] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> o wpi;dm
[03:34] <soulrider_> BloodyTux: seriously, chill out
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[03:34] <intelikey> !ops
[03:34] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[03:34] <BloodyTux> sorry i'll stop
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> time to LOOK for the home row before typing :\
[03:35] <tony134340> intelikey, thanks, but i already knew the basic diffs
[03:35] <BIoodyTux> stop eating paint that is
[03:35] <soulrider_> oh my, intelikey is mad :P
[03:35] <nixternal> BIoodyTux: please stop
[03:35] <soulrider_> !schedule
[03:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:35] <BIoodyTux> eh, shugs*
[03:36] <DShepherd> where can i find a torrent for kubuntu?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> jmaybe at kubuntu's site?
[03:36] <nixternal> DShepherd: what is your location? country wise?
[03:36] <arunkale> i'm on a dual boot right now, coz i need to run illustrator and photoshop. i know there are other software, but just not as widely used as these two. once there is a linux port of these applications (i hope there is), i don't have any reason to use any other application
[03:36] <soulrider_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[03:36] <DShepherd> nixternal, jamaica
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and...  i'll be back!
[03:36] <nixternal> ftp.ussg.iu.edu has torrents, and they are fast as long as they are flooded still
[03:37] <soulrider_> nixternal: do you think you can add a link for the torrents on the MOTD? or maybe on the kubuntu site, so servers dont suffer that much
[03:37] <BloodyTux> sorry
[03:37] <nixternal> oh well
[03:38] <lnxkde> sup nixternal
[03:38] <lnxkde> :-)
[03:38] <nixternal> hola lnxkde
[03:38] <soulrider_> can anyone change the topic or something? =/
[03:38] <lnxkde> nixternal, todo bn?
[03:38] <soulrider_> hola muchachos :)
[03:38] <nixternal> nada
[03:38] <nixternal> haha
[03:38] <lnxkde> :-D
[03:38] <lnxkde>  /join #lnxkde-spanishparty
[03:39] <nixternal> argh
[03:39] <nixternal> hahaha
[03:39] <nixternal> nalioth: I got it
[03:39] <arunkale> I just tried to upgrade again, it says 'cannot download the release announcement'
[03:39] <arunkale> why would it do that to me?
[03:39] <lavid> so, i seem to be having a lot of permissions issues since i did a clean install of kubuntu 7.04 today. i can't run this GLUT program i wrote and when i try to install vmware-workstation with the perl install script i get: bash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[03:40] <nixternal> that needs to be shortened. I will leave that for another day
[03:40] <soulrider_> lavid: you need to chmod that file first
[03:41] <soulrider_> and run it with sudo
[03:41] <gnomefreak> maybe drop the feisty out <link> and just put the link to get it
[03:41] <gnomefreak> but really im off to bed
[03:41] <lavid> soulrider_: ya lo hice / i already did that
[03:41] <nixternal> ya
[03:41] <lavid> chmod a+x ./vmware-install.pl right?
[03:41] <yotux> Have a daul core notebook should I stick with i386 or go for 64 bit?
[03:41] <soulrider_> lavid: check that the install script isnt corrupt, it may be a problem with the interpreter
[03:42] <nixternal> a lil better
[03:42] <soulrider_> i sould do chmod +x
[03:42] <soulrider_> with sudo
[03:42] <lavid> soulrider_: yeah, already did that
[03:42] <soulrider_> yotux: i would do x86
[03:42] <lavid> yotux: i agree there, go x86
[03:43] <yotux> soulrider_:  That is what I was thinking 64bit it still a little beta when it comes to the software market
[03:43] <intelikey> lavid and    ./vmware-install.pl
[03:43] <intelikey> ?
[03:43] <lavid> intelikey: huh?
[03:43] <yotux> intelikey: are you trying to install vmware?
[03:43] <intelikey> you chmoded it to executable   did you run it ?
[03:44] <lavid> intelikey: of course
[03:44] <intelikey> yotux not i
[03:44] <lavid> yotux: i am
[03:44] <intelikey> lavid any errors ?
[03:44] <lavid> same ones
[03:44] <yotux> I have done it once before in beta
[03:44] <soulrider_> lavid: pastebin the script
[03:45] <lavid> comming right up...
[03:45] <intelikey> lavid did you     sudo ./vmware-install.pl   ?
[03:45] <intelikey> or as root run it ?
[03:45] <bluewave> is it possible to make so when I hold down the power button it doesn't shut down?
[03:45] <lavid> i'm root
[03:46] <intelikey> no i am.
[03:46] <intelikey> oh nm
[03:46] <lavid> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16472/
[03:46] <arunkale> man, i just can't upgrade. maybe i should try after a while.
[03:47] <aaroncampbell> Has anyone here used lightscribe on Kubuntu?
[03:47] <intelikey> lavid ok was was the exact error message
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> aaroncampbell- no, but I just got a new burner with it, so I'd be interested in knowing if it works
[03:49] <aaroncampbell> Dragnslcr: well, they offer an rpm of whatever software you use...but last time I tried converting an RPM, I spent a week in here trying to get it straightened out
[03:49] <SCORules> I have insider information on SCOX stock. SCOX stock is predicted to increase by four fold after SCO's motion on Monday.
[03:50] <kelvie_> how do you install firefox? :/
[03:50] <intelikey> !ff
[03:50] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:50] <kelvie_> adept shows me zero new packages
[03:50] <kelvie_> that I can install
[03:50] <nixternal> kelvie_: edgy or feisty?
[03:50] <kelvie_> feisty
[03:51] <nixternal> did you select it via adept and install it?
[03:51] <intelikey> all up to date i guess
[03:51] <kelvie_> I've used kubuntu edgy in the past.. it wasn't this screwed up :/
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> aaroncampbell- I dunno, I'm just putting together a new computer to install Feisty on, so I haven't actually gotten to try anything out yet
[03:51] <kelvie_> nixternal: it's not even there
[03:51] <nixternal> hrmm
[03:51] <lavid> intelikey: root@lavid-laptop:/media/disk/vmware-distrib# ./vmware-install.pl
[03:51] <lavid> bash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[03:51] <nixternal> !info feisty firefox
[03:51] <ubotu> Package feisty does not exist in feisty
[03:51] <nixternal> wow
[03:51] <nixternal> !info firefox feisty
[03:51] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 9011 kB, installed size 28600 kB
[03:51] <nixternal> had it backwards
[03:51] <lavid> i'm going to grab some dinner... brb
[03:51] <nixternal> it says it is there
[03:51] <intelikey> lavid ok it's perl.    which perl
[03:51] <kelvie_> apt-get install doesn't work either
[03:51] <TheDebugger> !info epiphany feisty
[03:51] <kelvie_> are my repos screwed up?
[03:51] <ubotu> epiphany: clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-4 (feisty), package size 63 kB, installed size 236 kB
[03:51] <kelvie_> I didn't mess with anything
[03:51] <nixternal> kelvie_: make sure you have universe repos added
[03:51] <kelvie_> fresh install
[03:52] <kelvie_> won't even let me install synaptic
[03:52] <nixternal> fresh install should have universe and multiverse added unless they changed something
[03:52] <kelvie_> it says it's added
[03:52] <yotux> nixternal: last time I installed it was enabled
[03:52] <kelvie_> adept says 881 isntalled, 0 upgradeable, 881 available
[03:52] <nixternal> yotux: ya same here
[03:52] <kelvie_> installed*
[03:52] <kelvie_> something's screwed up with my install :/
[03:53] <nixternal> kelvie_: ahhh, you have a filter on that's why
[03:53] <kelvie_> how do you screw up such a simple install
[03:53] <yotux> back later updated desktop
[03:53] <kelvie_> oh... how do I turn it off?
[03:53] <nixternal> I don't use adept and such, apt-get only
[03:53] <nixternal> actually, you said apt-get doesn't work either
[03:53] <kelvie_> yeah
[03:53] <kelvie_> how do I update my sources list or whatever?
[03:53] <nixternal> it seems it is reading the CD only and not the rest of the repos
[03:53] <kelvie_> yeah :/
[03:54] <soulrider_> i wonder why there are no links to torrents on the kubuntu download site for CDs, only DVDs
[03:54] <Noldoaran> quick question: If I get kde4 from the repositories does it add it as another option in kdm? or in other words, does it take place of my current kde install?
[03:55] <kelvie_> k I'm doing a apt-get update
[03:55] <kelvie_> it's downloading things so I'm optimistic
[03:55] <intelikey> Noldoaran replaces
[03:55] <nixternal> ya, but adept should have fetched updates I would think, unless you didn't tell it to
[03:56] <Noldoaran> ok.. bummer, I want to try it out, but I don't want to totally commit to it
[03:56] <intelikey> i stand under you.
[03:56] <kelvie_> adept's not exactly very configureable.. it seems
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> grr
[03:57] <Dragnslcr> soulrider_- I think the mirrors should have the .torrent files
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> don't shoot me, i'm going to fix the topic.
[03:57] <intelikey> nixternal  -:- Topic (#kubuntu): changed by ajnewbold: lols
[03:57] <intelikey> sorry.
[03:57] <nixternal> wth
[03:57] <Dragnslcr> soulrider_- couple random mirrors I just checked have the .torrent files
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> just a drive-by topic changing
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> mode +t
[03:58] <nixternal> I didn't even catch that
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> +nt even
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> no outside messages, ops change topic
[03:58] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I kinda wondered why this channel isn't +t
[03:58] <Dragnslcr> I assumed there was a reason
[03:59] <dcosson> anybody else have problems with the gui updater crashing at the end of the 7.04 update?
[03:59] <Noldoaran> intelikey: how would i swich back to KDE 3.5.6 if I decide too?
[03:59] <nixternal> we might have to make it +t if people can't stop playing with it
[03:59] <nixternal> I would rather just ban them for it and fix it back ;)
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought +t was more or less the default
[03:59] <intelikey> Noldoaran uninstall and then install from the repos
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, +t usually is the default
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> It's easier than filling up the ban list
[04:00] <nixternal> ya, we remove it here...we are all about free :)
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> open source topic
[04:00] <Noldoaran> intelikey: repos?
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> clever
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> I know how much fun it is to ban people though
[04:00] <nixternal> Daisuke_Ido: hahah, I guess ;)
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> I miss being an op in a large channel
[04:00] <intelikey> !repos | Noldoaran
[04:00] <nixternal> I don't
[04:00] <ubotu> Noldoaran: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> lol cuz you are one
[04:01] <ZomgEternalKorea> Anyone can help me with wireless problems? :o
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> how can you miss something your not currently without?
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea i might, whas up
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: back in my days on another network, i was an op in a fairly sizable channel (about 200 people usually), and got bored.  so i started banning for the strangest things
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> like banning anyone that said flower
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> for instance
[04:02] <Noldoaran> intelikey: ok, thanks
[04:02] <intelikey> Noldoaran np
[04:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> Well, i installed a new rooter, set it up correctly ( i hope ) i got my wan working and set up my wireless too with a 128 bit ascii key
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ...i didn't stick around for very long after that :\
[04:02] <CVirus> How were the Kontact,Konqueror,Kopete and amaroK buttons grouped in the way in this snapshot http://kubuntu.org/images/feistydistup.png
[04:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> Wireless assistant can see the signal
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> quick launcher
[04:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> but when i get connection failed when i try to connect on it.
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't even have to look at the picture :)
[04:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> using the good WEP key
[04:02] <Jucato> CVirus: Quick Launcher applet on kicker
[04:03] <vr_> hey guys, at which speed should i burn my ISO?
[04:03] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea on wireless assistant?
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ZomgEternalKorea: i firmly believe that linux hates WEP
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i had the same problem
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and still do
[04:03] <kelvie_> :O is the "System Settings" a replacement for the KDE control center?
[04:03] <chemicalvamp> knetworkmanager helps
[04:03] <CVirus> Jucato: Thanks alot
[04:03] <nixternal> vr_: whatever speed your burner and CD can do
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> kelvie_: kcontrol's still there
[04:03] <kelvie_> ah :p
[04:03] <nixternal> I am a 52x burning type dude myself, I hate waiting
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> just not the default
[04:03] <vr_> nixternal: should i just leave it at "auto" in k3b?
[04:03] <ZomgEternalKorea> Yeah
[04:04] <ZomgEternalKorea> Kubuntu's wireless assistant
[04:04] <nixternal> vr_: yup
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea are you on edgy or feisty?
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- I was an op in #php over on EFNet. We didn't need to make up reasons to ban people there
[04:04] <vr_> nixternal: someone told me i should burn it at a low speed. but when i do that, it errors out, it can't verify the cd
[04:04] <ZomgEternalKorea> No idea, but i think i'm on edge.
[04:04] <ZomgEternalKorea> edgy*
[04:04] <Jucato> nixternal: isn't the lowest speed recommended when burning ISO's
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i may have to drop feisty on the laptop then :D
[04:05] <intelikey> kelvie  alt+f2  type in: kcontrol  on any kde as far as i know, will get you the app
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> to get my wireless assistan to work right, i have to manualy set it up, but knetworkmanager does it automaticly
[04:05] <nixternal> Jucato: who lives by recommendations? if we did, we would all be using Vista right now
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, sh....
[04:05] <ZomgEternalKorea> How could i know actually?
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i forgot about this...
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[04:05] <vr_> Jucato: what speed do you burn at?
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Configuring apt, Scanning the mirror...
[04:05] <ZomgEternalKorea> ok, sec
[04:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i THOUGH it would be quicker this way :(
[04:05] <Jucato> vr_: the lowest that the CD can burn (4x or 8x depending on the CD)
[04:05] <arunkale> question for everyone: what are your window decoration themes of choice?
[04:06] <ZomgEternalKorea> couldnt find the package
[04:06] <ZomgEternalKorea> :o
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> arunkale: crystal
[04:06] <intelikey> Jucato 8x> seems to be recommended in most cycrles  for burning system disks.
[04:06] <Jucato> nixternal: hm...  most standards are recommendations... (like w3c...)
[04:06] <vr_> on the cd it just says, 52x...
[04:06] <Skyblast> Whatever Edgy has as default I like
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> that is the most clever spelling i've seen :)
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> I figure after I get my new system put together and get Feisty installed, I'll get to hang out here and ask all kinds of stupid questions
[04:06] <nixternal> Jucato: standards and rules were made to be broken
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Skyblast: pretty sure the default's crystal
[04:06] <Skyblast> I wish I could find a way to "backport" it to my Dapper machine at work
[04:06] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <ZomgEternalKorea> ok
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Skyblast: kde-look
[04:07] <vr_> i already got 2 coasters trying to burn at 8x
[04:07] <nixternal> since CD burners were made, I have always burned ISOs at the maximum speed my burner and CD could handle
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[04:07] <vr_> :\
[04:07] <ZomgEternalKorea> well...
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.kde-look.org
[04:07] <ZomgEternalKorea> i cant download updates since my internet wont work.
[04:07] <nixternal> I just buned 50 Kubuntu x86/amd64 CDs today at 52x each
[04:07] <nixternal> no way I was going to do them at 8x
[04:07] <vr_> nixternal: do thoze cds work on slower machines?
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> still scanning the mirror :\
[04:07] <vr_> those*
[04:07] <aaroncampbell> if I install automatix to try the lightscribe support, and it messes something up, how hard would it be to remove it?
[04:08] <nixternal> they work on my laptop which only has 24x
[04:08] <intelikey> vr_  8x or less  heavy on the or less
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> you can get the lightscribe support elsewhere
[04:08] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea your going to have to manualy set up your IP, gateway and primary DNS
[04:08] <ZomgEternalKorea> ah
[04:08] <vr_> intelikey: my burner doesn't support anything lower than 8x
[04:08] <ZomgEternalKorea> ok
[04:08] <nixternal> aaroncampbell: removing all of the errors that automatix creates is about as easy as pulling a hair from a lions tail
[04:08] <vr_> intelikey: and when i try 8x, it becomes a coaster :(
[04:09] <intelikey> vr_ hummm  didn't know anything didn't support 1x
[04:09] <nixternal> there is lightscribe in feisty, someone at my LUG does it every rip
[04:09] <nixternal> 1x burning would cause me to hang myself
[04:09] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea do you know how>
[04:09] <aaroncampbell> nixternal: I'd LOVE to know how
[04:09] <nixternal> with a rope
[04:09] <aaroncampbell> nixternal: how to use lightscribe
[04:09] <nixternal> oh
[04:09] <nixternal> haha
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 80 minutes per cd
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i was stressed when i had 4x as my max speed
[04:10] <nixternal> aaroncampbell: lemme see if he is in the lug chan or one of our ghetto channels
[04:10] <nixternal> aaroncampbell: you asked for it ;p
[04:10] <Noldoaran> upgrading from edgy just requires changing all the lines in sources.list to feisty and doing a full upgrade in adept, right?
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but it was cool.  i could burn cds!
[04:10] <ZomgEternalKorea> Yeah.. i just did it.
[04:10] <aaroncampbell> nixternal: I'd appreciate it, and I agree...I was too slow on the draw...
[04:10] <nixternal> the message is out, now I just need to wait for him to answer
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> finally, downloading package lists!
[04:10] <ZomgEternalKorea> I filled ip/netmask/gateway/primary dns
[04:10] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea get it w?orkin
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> \o/
[04:10] <ZomgEternalKorea> it didnt work
[04:10] <ZomgEternalKorea> i dont know domain/broadcast
[04:11] <nixternal> 192.168.1.0
[04:11] <intelikey> lavid can you post the error message one more time please     only the error line.
[04:11] <nixternal> if you are on a 192.168.1.x network
[04:11] <ZomgEternalKorea> thats domain?
[04:11] <ZomgEternalKorea> I am
[04:11] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea yeah IP and broadcast are the same
[04:11] <ZomgEternalKorea> ok
[04:11] <lavid> bash: ./vmware-install.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:11] <chemicalvamp> i dont have to enter domain, but i dont know about your network
[04:11] <nixternal> lavid: you need to apt-get install build-essentials
[04:11] <lavid> did that already
[04:11] <intelikey> lavid that's saying that it can't run /usr/bin/perl
[04:12] <nixternal> orly, and you are using the howto from the forums or the wiki?
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> nixternal- if you think of it, beep me if you find out anything about Lightscribe. I'd like to try it out too
[04:12] <nixternal> I will do that Dragnslcr
[04:12] <ZomgEternalKorea> meh
[04:12] <ZomgEternalKorea> it doesnt work.
[04:12] <Daisuke_Ido> me too, will someone buy me a lightscribe drive?
[04:12] <ZomgEternalKorea> Imma try again later, or just install another distro
[04:12] <intelikey> lavid   ls -l /usr/bin/perl
[04:12] <nixternal> Daisuke_Ido: they are less than $30 all day now on newegg
[04:12] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea if you dont have internet, how are you talkng on here/
[04:12] <lavid> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1077808 2007-03-05 20:05 /usr/bin/perl
[04:12] <ZomgEternalKorea> Im on my desktop
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> with wired?
[04:13] <Daisuke_Ido> i miss my ls-capable drive
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> yes
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> well then wire up your laptop
[04:13] <intelikey> that don't make sense.
[04:13] <pulaski> hello all
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> thats why i bought a new rooter
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> and get knetworkmanager
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> a wireless one.
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> :p
[04:13] <lavid> intelikey: i'll say!
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> yeah
[04:13] <ZomgEternalKorea> imma do this.
[04:13] <intelikey> lavid i'm going to study the script some more.
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> if you use a wired connection to get knetworkmanager, it will all work out
[04:13] <pulaski> I just was able to fire up feisty fawn 7.04,
[04:14] <ZomgEternalKorea> ok
[04:14] <Daisuke_Ido> into configuring hardware.  this is good.
[04:14] <lavid> intelikey: thanks, i appreciate it. it was working just fine on my ubuntu feisty beta since forever.
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> was there a big update release for feisty since it came out of beta?
[04:15] <pulaski> I've held off using edgy 6.10, what's new with ff compared to edgy? anyone?
[04:15] <matei1> hi; I'm trying to update kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and it seems to be very slow using the Canadian update site (ca.archive.ubuntu.com); is there some way to speed up the process? maybe change site?
[04:15] <lavid> matei1: use a .edu mirror
[04:16] <matei1> lavid: how can I easily change the mirror? cancel the update and modify the repository sources somehow?
[04:16] <chemicalvamp> where would amule save completed downloads running on a live cd?
[04:17] <lavid> matei1: it's in the adept repository manager
[04:17] <intelikey> lavid i can't find anything wrong with the script.     test running it as normal user and see if it burps out "Please re-run this program as the super user."   like it should.
[04:18] <matei1> lavid: okay, thanks; what .edu mirror do you recommend?
[04:18] <lavid> matei1: any
[04:18] <lavid> it gives me the same message when i run it as a normal user
[04:18] <lavid> intelikey: the exact same message
[04:18] <intelikey> lavid yeah.  it's perl that's hosed.
[04:19] <intelikey> not the script.
[04:19] <lavid> intelikey: gah, on a fresh install?
[04:19] <intelikey> lavid fresh install of ?
[04:19] <tony134340> chemicalvamp, i assume your /home/user folder
[04:19] <lavid> kubuntu
[04:19] <intelikey> lavid version i mean
[04:19] <lavid> 7.04
[04:20] <intelikey> lavid welcome to "newest bigest and..."
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> tony134340 ried there : /
[04:20] <intelikey> lavid try reinstalling perl see if it helps
[04:20] <tony134340> i have a scanner that isn't supported by sane. can someone tell me if it will work in a virtual windows on kubuntu?
[04:20] <lavid> intelikey: i did... same issue. i'm going to try to remove it completely and then reinstall
[04:21] <intelikey> good luck
[04:21] <tony134340> chemicalvamp, sorry, don't know then. might search for tmp folders
[04:21] <lavid> thanks
[04:21] <lavid> and thanks for your help
[04:21] <intelikey> lavid no i mean good luck with removing perl
[04:21] <chemicalvamp> tony134340 i found it
[04:21] <intelikey> it will take almost everything with it.
[04:21] <lavid> gah!
[04:21] <intelikey> and python is worse
[04:22] <intelikey> i have removed both,  you don't want to.
[04:22] <arunkale> anyone use beryl here?
[04:23] <soulrider> oh damn
[04:23] <soulrider> i wanna kill myself!
[04:23] <intelikey> lavid  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep perl`
[04:23] <soulrider> i accidentally disocnnected the power cable from my HD while the pc was on
[04:23] <soulrider> and now if i connect the hard drive it locks up while starting up
[04:23] <soulrider> is my Hd dead?
[04:23] <intelikey> lavid that command string "should"   fix it.
[04:24] <lavid> running it now
[04:24] <intelikey> lavid k if that doesn't    please file a bug on perl
[04:24] <lavid> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend perlapi-5.8.7 for liblocale-gettext-perl, probably a dependency cycle.
[04:25] <intelikey> and on perlapi-5.8.7
[04:25] <intelikey> lavid any other errors ?
[04:25] <lavid> nope
[04:25] <CVirus> What happens if I interrupt the updater while it's upgrading to feisty ?
[04:25] <intelikey> !info perlapi-5.8.7
[04:25] <CVirus> during the download phase
[04:25] <ubotu> Package perlapi-5.8.7 does not exist in feisty
[04:26] <Kubuntu-Noob> anybody know what LVM is
[04:26] <soulrider> intelikey: can you scroll up and rad my problem please? :P
[04:26] <intelikey> lavid try apt-get remove perlapi-5.8.7
[04:26] <keisangi> hi there
[04:26] <lavid> umm... probably not a good diea
[04:26] <lavid> idea
[04:26] <CVirus> lavid: what happens ?
[04:26] <intelikey> soulrider eeek.
[04:26] <Tony_Danza> Hey everybody how's it going!
[04:27] <soulrider> intelikey: im friggin desperate
[04:27] <soulrider> like, its like it auto powers off during the bios thingy
[04:27] <keisangi> i have a kestion about kopete ... how do i run this irc command:  /msg nickserv identify mypassword
[04:27] <soulrider> try it in the chat thing
[04:27] <soulrider> use another apssword just in case it shows up here
[04:27] <keisangi> what chat thing?
[04:28] <lavid> CVirus: a LOT wants to happen, something along the lines of removing everything
[04:28] <Tony_Danza> the chat thing you are typing in now
[04:28] <soulrider> where youre typing your messages
[04:28] <keisangi> Tony_Danzai did it .. of course .. but it doesn't work ..
[04:28] <intelikey> soulrider understand.   but not anything i can do from here.   maybe see if you can get into bios with the disk connected       oh!  and  does the drive power up or not ?   you can hear it when you turn the box on.
[04:28] <soulrider> intelikey: i think it powers up, yes
[04:28] <soulrider> why do this things happen to late at night?!
[04:29] <soulrider> im gonna try again, BRB
[04:29] <derek> does it show up in bios?
[04:29] <Tony_Danza> set the clock back a few hours so it thinks you have tons of time to mess around
[04:29] <soulrider> derek: i coulnt get there
[04:29] <intelikey> soulrider then there is hope.   if it wasn't powering on.... no hope from here.
[04:29] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: a chat (/query) window with nickserv open, and " identify mypassword" text is displayed into that window, but my nick isn't actualy identified after that ..
[04:29] <derek> b/c the pc froze up?
[04:29] <soulrider> yeah
[04:29] <soulrider> like someimte si sa=w the intel logo
[04:29] <soulrider> soemtimes i didnt
[04:29] <soulrider> but everything shut down
[04:29] <soulrider> except the power LED
[04:30] <soulrider> and something smells funny =/
[04:30] <derek> hmm.... have you tried booting w/out the drive plugged in? to see if it boots properly then
[04:30] <Tony_Danza> did you use the right password in the /query window?
[04:30] <keisangi> i think i found a bug in kopete
[04:30] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: yes
[04:31] <intelikey> !info perlapi
[04:31] <ubotu> Package perlapi does not exist in feisty
[04:31] <intelikey> !find perlapi
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: perl-base
[04:31] <Tony_Danza> in that /query window try typing "help" or "identify help" or "help identify".... without the quotes
[04:31] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: usualy when i identify myself, nickserv is answering to me: " password recognized you are now identified
[04:32] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: i get no reply from nickserv no matter what.. i tryed that too
[04:32] <Tony_Danza> it's been a while since I idented, I forget what commands you can use to get some kind of response to see if it's actually responding
[04:32] <intelikey> ok i'm out for a bit.    guys good luck to your penguins.
[04:32] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: your guesses were right, usualy typing " /msg nickserv help register " gives a reply
[04:33] <keisangi> but not with kopete
[04:33] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: i can say .. it's ot responding ..
[04:33] <keisangi> not
[04:34] <Tony_Danza> try giving it a wrong password and see if it gives an error?
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> well, that was interesting...just set up DSLinux on an old PII
[04:34] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: doesn't work either
[04:35] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: i just don't get any pulse from nickserv if using kopete
[04:35] <keisangi> flat line ..
[04:35] <keisangi> no answer
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> does kopete support slash cmds?
[04:36] <Tony_Danza> Try running Konversation and see if that works better?
[04:36] <keisangi> hitmanWilly: it support " join #blah-channel
[04:36] <keisangi> or /part
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[04:36] <Tony_Danza> dunno, I'm not familar with kopete
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> me neither
[04:36] <keisangi> yes.. quite few slash commands seems to work right
[04:37] <keisangi> i think the developper of kopete is here
[04:37] <keisangi> i forgot his nick
[04:37] <keisangi> i spoke with him last week
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, wait a minute, nickserv is actually NickServ, i think you have to cap it
[04:37] <keisangi> hitmanWilly: i try
[04:38] <keisangi> hitmanWilly: nothing better
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, don't know then
[04:38] <keisangi> thank for the   try anyway :)
[04:38] <RawSewage> Where is the Compiz switch in Feisty
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, the /msg cmd might not be recoignized, try /msg ing me right quick
[04:39] <keisangi> ?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, ok, that works
[04:40] <specialbuddy> so how do i get the official 7.04 if I'm using 7.04 beta
[04:40] <keisangi> that shouldn't
[04:40] <keisangi> on freenode, you cannot pm someone until you identify yourself
[04:40] <Tony_Danza> [22:40:27]  [Whois]  keisangi is an identified user.
[04:40] <Tony_Danza> You are.
[04:40] <keisangi> so it would mean i'm identify ?
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, normal update as in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:41] <Tony_Danza> maybe it was just lag
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> it happens
[04:41] <specialbuddy> ok
[04:41] <amcr> Hello. Has anybody got problems installing kubuntu-amd64-alternate-7.04?
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> bitchx does it to me all the time
[04:41] <specialbuddy> thanks
[04:41] <RawSewage> doesnt Kubuntu have a Compiz switch like Ubuntu?
[04:41] <keisangi> hum.. nice .. so the problem is diffrent, it's just   that nickserv doesn't reply to me, or i can't see it's reply with kopete .. but well nice to see it's actualy working :)
[04:42] <keisangi> thanks for the help hitmanWilly Tony_Danza :)
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:42] <Tony_Danza> keisangi: In kopete, is there a main "server" or "status" window that it might have shown the reply message in?
[04:43] <keisangi> Tony_Danza: no, just channel windows or pm windows .. but since when i msg nickserv it open a pm window the msg should appear there, but it's not
[04:43] <keisangi> but basicaly no, there's no server tab
[04:44] <Tony_Danza> hmm, that is odd. Somehow it worked though.
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, probably would show up there
[04:45] <keisangi> yess, well, that's the important point .. if it works i'm happy ;)
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> i don't think freenode lets you do anything if your using a registered nick w/out the password
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> so if you can join channels, that probably means it worked
[04:46] <keisangi> yes it works i can join restricted channel which requiere to by identified .. cool ..
[04:46] <keisangi> i just test with #java
[04:46] <keisangi> you can't join if not identified
[04:46] <keisangi> any java dev here by chance?
[04:48] <jhutchins> keisangi: They all run slackware or debian.
[04:49] <jhutchins> keisangi: Actually, the run solaris.
[04:51] <keisangi> jhutchins: what do you mean ?
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, sun makes both :)
[04:54] <keisangi> hitmanWilly: what are you speaking about ?
[04:54] <keisangi> i don't understand what you and jhutchins are speaking about ?
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, java devs and solaris
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> keisangi, solaris is another nix system, made by the same people who make java
[04:55] <keisangi> no, i asked if by anychance there were any java developers here
[04:56] <ZomgEternalKorea> chemicalvamp, knetworkmanager is dling
[04:59] <Davor> when ubuntu devel can fix knetworkmanager?
[05:00] <chemicalvamp> ZomgEternalKorea cool
[05:00] <specialbuddy> what does this mean?
[05:00] <specialbuddy> #
[05:00] <specialbuddy> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main
[05:00] <specialbuddy> #
[05:00] <specialbuddy> oops
[05:00] <chemicalvamp> thats a repository
[05:00] <specialbuddy> !pastebin
[05:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy befre you use the upgrade tool, let me encorage you to do a clan install of feisty, and download your archetecture specific live cd
[05:02] <specialbuddy> that's the better method?
[05:02] <chemicalvamp> faster
[05:02] <jhutchins> keisangi: This is IRC ironic humor.
[05:02] <chemicalvamp> and dependable
[05:02] <mrgv> anyone know how to get ati x1950pro hardware drivers working on feisty? new version of xorg halts the ati installer for some reason..
[05:02] <Davor> hii
[05:02] <Davor> Knetworkmanager cant show me the Wifi network list anymore.
[05:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> woot
[05:02] <ZomgEternalKorea> wireless working
[05:03] <ZomgEternalKorea> chemicalvamp i love you <3
[05:03] <chemicalvamp> ;)
[05:03] <jhutchins> keisangi: We waited until it was clear that there weren't any java developers willing to respond, then we kidded that java dev's don't run kubuntu, they run oddball Linux or they run Solaris, because they are paid by Sun to be java devlopers.
[05:03] <chemicalvamp> hey dude, i dont think thats something one dude should be saying to another dude
[05:03] <jhutchins> WiFi is rollin' dice on ubuntu right now.
[05:03] <arunkale> umm.. what happens if i cancel the installation midway?
[05:04] <arunkale> the upgrade to feisty, i mean
[05:04] <specialbuddy> is it like the beta or better?
[05:04] <keisangi> jhutchins: i don't share that sense of humor sorry ;)
[05:04] <chemicalvamp> ide cancel it now and download the iso if i where you
[05:04] <jhutchins> keisangi: Well, sorry for troubling you then.
[05:04] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: it's downloaded and installed like 3%
[05:04] <keisangi> indeed..
[05:04] <arunkale> if i cancel it now will it screw up my system on restart
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> well then you got another 1 1/2 hours maybe
[05:05] <keisangi> feel very sorry little mortal
[05:05] <jhutchins> arunkale: Oh, that's not good.  Could be just enough to work, but subtly hose the system.
[05:05] <jhutchins> arunkale: Never do day 0.
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> they may have fixed it up, i dont know
[05:05] <keisangi> err.. i meant:  " yea np  ..
[05:05] <arunkale> jhutchins: Mm hm.. so basically I'm stuck for the next few hours?
[05:05] <jhutchins> keisangi: You could always do a clean reinstlal of your older version...
[05:05] <arunkale> jhutchins: the upgrade is happening quite slowly, i guess that's because of the busy servers
[05:05] <keisangi> jhutchins: nah i like the last update
[05:05] <jhutchins> (please excuse the wandering "l"s.
[05:06] <jhutchins> arunkale: Yes, very busy servers.
[05:06] <arunkale> so i'm stuck, right? i have to let it go through?
[05:06] <jhutchins> arunkale: Some of them also carry Mandriva, which released two (?) days ago.
[05:06] <jhutchins> arunkale: What's your local time?
[05:06] <arunkale> 8.46am
[05:06] <machinecraig> arunkale: if you cancel your upgrade, as long as you don't reboot you should be fine
[05:07] <jhutchins> arunkale: Oh.  Um.  You might actually need your computer today, eh?
[05:07] <arunkale> machinecraig: i want to reboot, which is why i'd like to cancel it, but i guess i can't do that
[05:07] <arunkale> My upgrade to Edgy was pretty quick
[05:07] <arunkale> So I thought this would be as well
[05:07] <mrgv> i'm a little disappointed by fiesty... i had to check md5 of iso to make sure i actually installed a new version... (ok not true, but almost)
[05:07] <machinecraig> arunkale: missed that, sorry ;-)
[05:07] <jhutchins> arunkale: No, rebooting is pretty much a bad idea.
[05:07] <chemicalvamp> yeah im with hutchkins
[05:07] <ZomgEternalKorea> actually
[05:07] <arunkale> jhutchins: damn, guess my day is shot. thanks, though.
[05:07] <ZomgEternalKorea> i think it didnt work cuz i entered the wrong wep key
[05:07] <ZomgEternalKorea> >.<
[05:07] <jhutchins> arunkale: I would go ahead and cancel, then I woudl take the opportunity to make sure I had a current backup before I did anything else.
[05:08] <arunkale> if i cancel, will it screw up GRUB?
[05:08] <jhutchins> arunkale: You can, of course, just reinstall off the old CD if it goes really bad.
[05:08] <chemicalvamp> could screw up xserver
[05:08] <jhutchins> arunkale: Not if it hasn't done the kernel yet.
[05:08] <chemicalvamp> aborting an install = bad
[05:08] <arunkale> I don't think I should take that change
[05:08] <arunkale> chance*
[05:09] <jhutchins> arunkale: You could take a look at what files it's done (I've done multiple upgrades recently, does ubuntu tell you?), see if there's anything system-critica.
[05:09] <mrgv> here i was expecting out of the box (or a simple single installl) to get desktop hardware effects and it turns out i'll have settle for just getting my video card working with a little luck..
[05:09] <chemicalvamp> whats with your L key?
[05:09] <arunkale> thanks, but I think i'll just wait. i'd rather not screw this up!
[05:10] <arunkale> thanks for the help guys
[05:10] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: I think it may have had more of it's share of bourbon this evening.
[05:10] <chemicalvamp> well wheres mine!?
[05:10] <jhutchins> mrgv: Sorry, some of us don't think the 3d stuff should have been so prominently featured, we don't think it's even at beta stage yet.
[05:10] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: I think the L key got it.
[05:11] <chemicalvamp> i see hehe
[05:11] <arunkale> system critica sounds pretty cool, though
[05:11] <arunkale> could be the name of a band
[05:11] <jhutchins> arunkale: How long so far?
[05:11] <mrgv> jjhutchins: how about a single package install at least? i would gladly settle for it.  i don't even have my graphics card working at all.
[05:11] <arunkale> when you're being interviewed on tv, you could just say "actually, it's a funny story. my keyboard had a little too much bourbon..."
[05:12] <arunkale> jhutchins: 'fetching file 37 of 815'
[05:12] <mardi> anyone know of a networkable RPG game for linux?
[05:12] <jhutchins> arunkale: Which is understandable, most keyboards can't handle much bourbon at all.
[05:12] <jhutchins> arunkale: I mean time-wise?
[05:12] <jhutchins> arunkale: 1.5 hours?
[05:12] <arunkale> About 30-45 minutes, i think
[05:13] <mrgv> i have an ati 1950pro and i tried installing the proprietary drivers but they don't seem to get along with new xorg version..?
[05:13] <chemicalvamp> arunkale its downloading?
[05:13] <jhutchins> Ok, I have one report from an earlier upgrade that was 1.5 hours, I'd give it three max.
[05:13] <mrgv> the drivers installed fine on last kubuntu version..
[05:13] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: yes
[05:13] <anakim> e aew galera
[05:13] <anakim> hello i'm from brazil
[05:14] <jhutchins> mrgv: That's the thing about alpha-grade sofware, one day it works, the next it doesn't.  Can you revert to the OS drivers?
[05:14] <anakim> How to update my Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake for 7.04, help-me
[05:14] <arunkale> umm.. technically, i shouldn't have konversation open during upgrade, right
[05:14] <chemicalvamp> arunkale @ what speed?
[05:14] <jhutchins> arunkale: Nah, this is linux, you can do that.
[05:15] <chemicalvamp> whats a good Ipod sync program?
[05:15] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: it's fluctuating quite a bit.. from 3kb/s to 29kb/s
[05:15] <jhutchins> arunkale: New estimate, 4 hrs.
[05:15] <chemicalvamp> arunkale grab a snickers
[05:15] <arunkale> for some time it was hovering at 35
[05:15] <mshade> ls
[05:15] <mshade> :)
[05:16] <arunkale> Does anyone know if there's a 'PHP for Dummies' book?
[05:16] <chemicalvamp> took me 6 hours total at a steady 60+
[05:16] <mshade> Are the US apt repositories down?
[05:16] <compilerwriter> arunkale Grab a Cuban robusto, and snifter of congac.
[05:16] <mrgv> jhutchins: i have a gui going but on software so it's  a bit choppy.  the ati driver install doesn't continue bc it doesn't recognize the xorg version (seems to be newer than before..not sure why it wouldn't work..)
[05:16] <arunkale> I mean, I pretty much know the basics, but I'd like to learn to write my own CMS
[05:17] <jhutchins> mrgv: You may need to give it a few days.  Files on the mirrors are barely even verified yet, and the servers themselves are hammered.
[05:17] <mrgv> i would have to downgrade the xorg to be able to install the ati drivers it seems?
[05:17] <chemicalvamp> i would cancel the tool and download the live cd iso arunkale
[05:17] <arunkale> what are your favourite things about feisty?
[05:17] <chemicalvamp> its got alot of pimp stuff
[05:17] <chemicalvamp> and i nice glitch with my wireless card :)
[05:17] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: i guess i'll wait till it's done.. I have a windows partition as well, and if grub gets screwed, then all my valuable stuff is lost
[05:18] <arunkale> what pimp stuff
[05:18] <jhutchins> arunkale: It has such dynamic hardware detection that we're sure to have plenty of problems to troubleshoot here!
[05:18] <compilerwriter> jhutchins I should have just downloaded the blasted torrent.  Adept did such a nice job in going from dapper to edgy.  So I went ahead and fired it up.  I also figured that I would help out the swarm, and lo adept is still working on the last 100 files and I have burned an iso disk from the torrent.
[05:18] <mrgv> jlhutchins: wait a few days for what again? i'm not sure what you mean.
[05:18] <chemicalvamp> arunkale if it hasnt finished downloading you got nothing to worry about
[05:18] <arunkale> jhutchins: heh, you're scaring me
[05:18] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: doesn't it download and install at the same time? will things get screwed if i cancel and reboot?
[05:19] <chemicalvamp> arunkale it downloads, and then after everything is fetched it installs
[05:19] <mshade> arunkale: no, the downloads run first
[05:19] <jhutchins> arunkale: We'll have to see.  My two favorite distros released within two days of each other, I should be able to occupy myself any time I want.
[05:19] <jhutchins> I can program a macro for the first few days that says "Mirror problems - give it time".
[05:20] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: so i can just cancel it?
[05:20] <jhutchins> Then I can do "I think they're working on that".
[05:20] <shinobi> anyone have any ideas on using sql as backend to kaddressbook?
[05:20] <jhutchins> Then I'll have to actually think.
[05:20] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: what happens to all the downloaded files?
[05:20] <jhutchins> good night an good luck!
[05:20] <arunkale> chemicalvamp: and my sources.list
[05:21] <chemicalvamp> if you get the fiesty-7.04 live cd it wont matter
[05:21] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: The CD will actually take longer than the install though.
[05:23] <mrgv> how do i check my xorg version pls?
[05:23] <chemicalvamp> jhutchins didnt for me
[05:24] <chemicalvamp-afk> later ppl
[05:25] <mrgv> nm, i was forgetting a capital x
[05:28] <se7en> are there no updates i was on feisty beta and i thought 2day a lot of updates should come out ...
[05:28] <arunkale> does feisty look more or less the same as edgy?
[05:29] <acidBURN> yes
[05:29] <mrgv> YES
[05:29] <acidBURN> don't see allot of diff
[05:29] <acidBURN> some bug fixes...
[05:29] <sstchur> I just upgraded to Feisty, and it crash right at the very end of the install (during remove obsolete software I think) -- Most everything seems okay anyway, but KNetworkmanager won't load for me anymore, so I no longer have a wireless conneciton.  What can I do about this?
[05:29] <acidBURN> eye candy
[05:29] <arunkale> what are the new packages?
[05:30] <acidBURN> I ask that same question
[05:31] <mrgv> arunkale: it looks like the bootup logo was updated.. i'm sure there are other changes too.
[05:32] <arunkale> Jucato: was just checking that out :)
[05:32] <Jucato> arunkale: what are the new packages? you'd have to investigate those one by one if you want to find out
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> lets see, kde 3.5.6, k3b 1.0, amarok updates, etc..
[05:32] <acidBURN> well, been running the beta feisty, still can't update via the archives...
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> plus the new kernel
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> acidBURN, its actually probably already updated
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> acidBURN, the repos for the dev and release are the same ones
[05:33] <RawSewage> how is Kubuntu coming along
[05:33] <Jucato> acidBURN: if you've been updating daily until 2 or 3 days ago, then you have not problem
[05:34] <RawSewage> I dont understand why Kubuntu isnt the top distro
[05:34] <RawSewage> oh well, enough of that
[05:34] <acidBURN> still broadcom wireless 43xx doesn't work out of the box
[05:34] <giovani> RawSewage: Kubuntu is somewhat unpolished compared to Ubuntu
[05:35] <hendaus> hiya
[05:35] <giovani> that's mostly due to the much smaller team and development efforts
[05:35] <acidBURN> ture
[05:35] <hendaus> can anyone help me how to creat a torrent movie and uoload it on a website please?
[05:35] <mardi> anyone know of a networkable RPG game for linux?
[05:35] <RawSewage> I have a reply, but I wont go into that here
[05:35] <acidBURN> it would appear that DELL is now going to ship linux unbuntu with there systems.
[05:35] <giovani> acidBURN: where'd you hear that?
[05:36] <RawSewage> sigh...
[05:36] <acidBURN> via news link..
[05:36] <giovani> interesting
[05:36] <RawSewage> this needs to stop
[05:36] <acidBURN> you might find it on google news now..
[05:36] <giovani> what needs to stop?
[05:36] <RawSewage> Kubuntu needs to be pushed as the main before it's too late
[05:36] <Jucato> acidBURN: it's is still not certain what distro Dell will ship with. there is not definite announcement yet
[05:36] <acidBURN> yes there is..
[05:36] <giovani> Dell already ships RedHat Enterprise, doesn't it?
[05:36] <acidBURN> Mr. Dell is using it in his home
[05:37] <hendaus> helpers!! can anyone help me how to creat a torrent movie and uoload it on a website please?
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> acidBURN, the dell and ubuntu bigwigs won't confirm anything just yet...
[05:37] <giovani> hendaus: that's really not relevant to kubuntu in any way
[05:37] <Jucato> acidBURN: the fact that he uses it at home doesn't mean that Dell will ship with Ubuntu. the fact is that there is no "definite" announcement yet
[05:38] <RawSewage> I'll be angry if they choose Ubuntu and not Kubuntu
[05:38] <hendaus> giovani,  coz i am using ktorrent and i register on a website of torrents and i want to upload a movie there
[05:38] <giovani> hendaus: discuss the uploading of torrents with that website ... that has nothing to do with your OS
[05:38] <RawSewage> but. of course, they will
[05:38] <giovani> I don't know if ktorrent supports creating torrents -- if they do, I'm sure it's in the documentation, or is relatively straightforward
[05:39] <acidBURN> hey, here a link that said Dell is going to use unbuntu http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2115645,00.asp
[05:40] <Jucato> giovani: you might want to ask in ktorrent's forums then
[05:40] <giovani> Jucato: I don't think you meant to address that to me
[05:40] <RawSewage> I didnt have to disable IPV6 in Feisty
[05:40] <giovani> Jucato: maybe hendaus
[05:40] <Jucato> acidBURN: what line/sentence indicates that Dell will be selling pre-installed Ubuntu systems?
[05:40] <RawSewage> I wonder why
[05:40] <Jucato> giovani: oh yeah sorry
[05:40] <Jucato> hendaus: you might want to ask in ktorrent's forums then
[05:40] <magnus_> acidBURN: It doesn't say Dell will use Ubuntu, it only says that Michael Dell is using it on his personal computer.
[05:41] <insmod> what does "export INTEL_BATCH"  do on google they say  export INTEL_BATCH=1 boost performance i tried export INTEL_BATCH=4 and got better reuslts
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, im guessing it handles it better at the kernel level
[05:41] <RawSewage> Is Goobuntu based on GNOME or KDE
[05:41] <acidBURN> Click here to read more about Dell's plans to release desktops and laptops with Linux pre-installed.
[05:41] <acidBURN> its right there
[05:41] <hendaus> Jucato, i have movies and i need to creat them to upload it on a website, i dont know what is tracker like what should i type there?
[05:42] <acidBURN> Well, its good in one way.... ubuntu will take the lead over the others.
[05:42] <Jucato> hendaus: again, it's not a Kubuntu-related issue. you'll have to research about that someplace else
[05:42] <hendaus> Jucato,  lol ok thanx anyway
[05:42] <Skrotffs> acidBURN: In that article it says "For example, we do not know at this time which Linux distributionor distributionsit will be supporting"
[05:42] <shenmue> RawSewage: What's Goobuntu though?
[05:42] <Jucato> acidBURN: yes. it says "with Linux pre-installed" not "with Ubuntu pre-installed". Ubuntu is not the only Linux distro
[05:42] <RawSewage> shenmue, what they use at Google
[05:42] <acidBURN> Stay tune...
[05:42] <RawSewage> Google uses a modified Ubuntu
[05:43] <Jucato> RawSewage: Goobuntu, as a distro does not really exist. They use Ubuntu and tweak it to their needs
[05:43] <Jucato> (much like any office or user would)
[05:43] <RawSewage> Im sure it exists at Google
[05:43] <shenmue> RawSewage: It really exist?
[05:43] <RawSewage> yes
[05:43] <giovani> Jucato: you have any idea where I could get some real help with a live cd problem in feisty? the forums and this irc channel haven't really had any responses
[05:43] <Jucato> RawSewage: we're talking about a distribution, not an in-house system. so as a distribution, there is not Goobuntu
[05:43] <acidBURN> don't you think Mark, will do whatever, to take a bigger pieces of pie from windows...
[05:44] <RawSewage> ok
[05:44] <Jucato> giovani: what sort of problem
[05:44] <giovani> Jucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414249
[05:44] <shenmue> RawSewage: cool, any screenshots?
[05:44] <compilerwriter> Halelujah!  I am finally in the installation phase, only 1 hour 52 minutes left to go.
[05:44] <RawSewage> http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&q=goobuntu&btnG=Search+Images
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> well, if Dell starts installing ubu, they'll most likely pick up the corporate support, which would dump a LOT of funds into ubu's bank accts
[05:45] <shinobi> kadressbook + SQL ideas anyone?
[05:46] <acidBURN> yes...
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> which would probably go into more R&D, advertising, etc..
[05:46] <Jucato> acidBURN, hitmanWilly: http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=2845484%26_index=3 straigh from Mark himself
[05:47] <lavid> good interview
[05:47] <Jucato> giovani: hm... sorry no idea either :(
[05:48] <giovani> Jucato: yeah, it's kind of a problem I would assume only developers could assist with ... I was hoping I could get in contact with some of them here
[05:48] <acidBURN> you have to look at it from a global aspect, the world of computers has change, closed end os is dead
[05:48] <Dr_willis> i dont think that computers will ever catch on
[05:49] <acidBURN> well from that article there more going on... he is hold his tongue per say...
[05:49] <Jucato> that has very little to do with your statement that it's final that Dell will ship with Ubuntu
[05:49] <RawSewage> computers are the 21st century hacky sack
[05:49] <acidBURN> there a story, not publish that dell will fund some money
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> and with vista being the flaming pile of crap it is, Shuttleworth might have half a chance
[05:49] <acidBURN> to get this going
[05:49] <acidBURN> yes, anti-MS
[05:50] <insmod> anyone know a fix for usplash on laptops
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> but i digress...
[05:50] <acidBURN> in what
[05:50] <chino> when my freind opens up a terminal he says he dont get a prompt it just hangs...
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> just pulling myself back ontopic
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:51] <acidBURN> k
[05:51] <chino> is there some type of issue with the dam kernel or something
[05:51] <acidBURN> just think, I used to run cp/m, DOS, OS/2, Window NT, Unix, Mac, and NOW linux
[05:52] <Skrotffs> Dr_willis: A professor at my university acctually wrote a book a couple of years ago predicting that the internet was just a dying fad :)
[05:52] <Jucato> chino: in Konsole or Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[05:52] <acidBURN> well, there some truth in that
[05:52] <chino> i think its all prompts... maybe it bash ... idk
[05:52] <acidBURN> it was supposed to be for research
[05:52] <luckyone_> Happy Feisty Day everyone!!!!
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I just finished Jules Vernns 2000leagues under the sea.. amazing where he was right.. and amazing where he was wrong. :)
[05:52] <arunkale> acidBURN: nothing ever lasts as it was 'intended to be'
[05:53] <Jucato> chino: if it's Ctrl+Alt+Fn only, then it might be an issue with X or the kernel
[05:53] <acidBURN> here here
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> verne did predict the nuclear submarine with amazing accuracy
[05:53] <acidBURN> long live amiga
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> ok, ok...:)
[05:53] <ferger> chicken
[05:54] <Jucato> post-release hours/days aren't usually a good time to go offtopic in here... :)
[05:54] <chino> i think its the kernel... its the only other time i've seen these types of problems
[05:54] <RawSewage> how do you rename your computer
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, /etc/hosts iirc
[05:54] <Dr_willis> actually i dont think thats right hitmanWilly
[05:54] <RawSewage> hitmanWilly, ty
[05:55] <giovani> RawSewage: use the "hostname" command
[05:55] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/hostname
[05:55] <Dr_willis> kubuntu
[05:55] <Jucato> you can do it from System Settings I think
[05:55] <acidBURN> I wish kubuntu was higher on distrowatch list
[05:55] <Dr_willis> yea - theres the editing the /etc/ files way. then theres the gui way. :)
[05:55] <codepoet> While trying to install unified linux drivers for my samsung printer, I get: "ERROR: HARDWARE_PLATFORM undefined, execution aborted" - any idea what I can do?
[05:55] <giovani> "sudo hostname yourhostnamehere" is how you set it
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> ok, nm, hostname sounds right
[05:55] <Dr_willis> acidBURN,  download it 10000000 times. :)
[05:55] <acidBURN> opps
[05:55] <acidBURN> disk full
[05:56] <RawSewage> ok
[05:56] <shinobi> started feisty install
[05:56] <Dr_willis> wget kubuntu.iso > /dev/null :)
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:57] <acidBURN> I think the next version of kubuntu will have KDE 4 all the way
[05:57] <Skrotffs> Not by default it wont
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> how is kde 4 coming along, anyway?
[05:57] <Jucato> acidBURN: probably not. but we're still discussing it
[05:57] <Skrotffs> Jucato: Isn't the next kubuntu release LTS?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> 'when its done' :)
[05:57] <acidBURN> your kiding
[05:57] <Jucato> Skrotffs: no
[05:57] <chino> hey hey
[05:57] <Skrotffs> ah
[05:57] <chino> i dont have grub
[05:58] <Jucato> Skrotffs: next LTS will probably be 8.04. but that's still to be discussed
[05:58] <chino> can someone tell methe command i can tell my freind to use for grub ... so he can ese what boot options he "would" have if he rebooted ?
[05:58] <Skrotffs> In that case I guess its feasible :>
[05:58] <dboy> Any links to sites with good terminal shortcuts?  (noob to all linux distros)  Just wondering something out there better and more noob friendly
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> !grub
[05:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <RawSewage> that sucks that Ubuntu gets a 1-click Compiz but we dont
[05:58] <Skrotffs> feisty+1 is in ~6 months, right?
[05:58] <acidBURN> here here
[05:58] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  where?  i dident see it.
[05:58] <Jucato> (because we don't install Compiz by default)
[05:58] <Jucato> Skrotffs: yes. 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[05:59] <acidBURN> I think that one click is from linspire
[05:59] <Jucato> Dr_willis: in System menu
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> Skrotffs, if they keep to their announced schedule
[05:59] <Dr_willis> heh. so it takes 2 clicks? :)
[05:59] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, apparently it's in System - Preferences - Effects or something on ubuntu
[05:59] <DaSkreech> bewerk beltoon
[05:59] <Jucato> acidBURN: no. there's a special utility to enable Compiz on Ubuntu
[05:59] <DaSkreech> kies
[05:59] <Jucato> Dr_willis: make that 3 clicks? :D
[05:59] <acidBURN> what is it?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Ok. under the gnome system/preferances tool?
[05:59] <RawSewage> I think so
[05:59] <DaSkreech> rekenmachine
[05:59] <Jucato> actually 4 because you have to  click o the checkbox
[06:00] <info_> emerald
[06:00] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ??
[06:00] <RawSewage> you need to click to close the System preferences window too
[06:00] <acidBURN> jucato: what the utility
[06:00] <Skrotffs> hitmanWilly: Well, both Gusty and KDE 4 are due the same month, but I bet they're worried about incorporating a new major version that soon..
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Ok - THATS majorly changed. :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:00] <Jucato> acidBURN: in GNOME's System menu. forgot the exact name/location
[06:00] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yes. 2.18 change
[06:00] <Jucato> Skrotffs: exactly.
[06:00] <RawSewage> Skrotffs, it's called Gutsy, so maybe they will
[06:00] <acidBURN> but not in kubuntu
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: i'm trying to figure out what language that is
[06:01] <RawSewage> it would take guts to put KDE 4 in Kubuntu right away
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Skrotffs, if they go LTS, probably not
[06:01] <Jucato> Skrotffs: also we can't really be sure if KDE 4.0 will really be released by October
[06:01] <Dr_willis> heh - on checking 'enable' effects.. ALMOST worked!
[06:01] <acidBURN> jucato: but not in kubuntu
[06:01] <Dr_willis> its got wiggley minimizing windows.. now. under kde. but no window decor. heh
[06:01] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: most likely not going to happen
[06:01] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: as I see it we will ship two CDS
[06:01] <Jucato> acidBURN: yes. we know that already. like I said, it's only on Ubuntu, because we don't have Compiz installed by default on Kubuntu
[06:01] <codepoet> omg... I clicked "New Printer", and ubuntu found my network printer and the drivers and everything on it's own! HOW COOL IS THAT!
[06:02] <DaSkreech>  one with KDE4 and one with KDE3
[06:02] <Skrotffs> Jucato: I predict that it won't.. KDE 4 has seriously overhauled and new libs that needs testing and lots of it..
[06:02] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, that would be weird
[06:02] <acidBURN> jucato: can it be install?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, i had the same problem, enable ARGBGLXVisuals
[06:02] <Dr_willis> codepoet,  ive never been that lucky. i gotta enter th eprinters ip# :) or use the rather brain dead scan the network tool.
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, at least for nvidia cards
[06:02] <Jucato> acidBURN: COmpiz, yes. the tool to enable it, no
[06:02] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  enable that where? xorg.conf eh?
[06:02] <codepoet> Dr_willis: haha, yeah I gotta do that in windows (even with samsung's printer tool!)
[06:02] <acidBURN> jucato: dam, always something
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, yup, or nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[06:03] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: how?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  gotta love that tool. :)
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:03] <PP188> one doubt help me: when i going to update to feisty, and my edgy was x64, it OS update to x64, automaticly? please
[06:03] <Dr_willis> well guess i gotta restart the X server now.. BRB.
[06:03] <DaSkreech> anyone knows what language kies is ?
[06:04] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, 2 Kubuntu CDs for one release
[06:05] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: I don't think it would be on release
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Ok. Now i got da wiggly windows! wee. :)
[06:05] <RawSewage> lol
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, it worked?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> and the whole system seems more sluggish now.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  yep. its working
[06:06] <Skrotffs> Dr_willis: Welcome to the magic of compiz/beryl ;)
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, fixed that myself today :)
[06:06] <chino> he says he dont get a prompt at tty either
[06:06] <Dr_willis> checked those options in that gnome-control-panel thing. did that command to fix the xorg.conf, alt-ctrl-bs. and BAM!
[06:06] <PP188> one doubt help me: when i going to update to feisty, and my edgy was x64, it OS update to x64, automaticly? please
[06:06] <Dr_willis> not that i really know what beryl/compwiz features are worth messing with
[06:07] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: it would be KDE3 on release two weeks later KDE4 goes legal to hunt We get a KDE4 ISO and then 6 months to make the next full release KDE4untu
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> PP188, yes it will update to the next version of what you are already running
[06:07] <Skrotffs> transparency, animations and the expose function. Perhaps the rotating cube as well, if you use virtual desktops
[06:07] <PP188> hitmanWilly: thanks man
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> np
[06:08] <Skrotffs> Dr_willis: of course, every pimped out desktop needs the "burning windows"-effect enabled when minimizing and closing windows.. *sigh*
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> if you've got the power, why not?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Skrotffs,  yea. seeing that. :)  I do also recall trying that Mettis (mettiss?) mandriva live cd. that had some neat features. but they were not using Beryl. they were using som eother sort of enhanced desktop.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> googling for beryl now - to see what to play with.
[06:09] <Skrotffs> there are lots of plugins.. most of them proof-of-concept
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, the zoom out when turning the cube rocks
[06:10] <acidBURN> well, got to jet...........................
[06:10] <shinobi> so what is the verdict on feisty - beryl/compiz and how to install
[06:10] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  oh? seeing the cube as i change desktops. not noticing any zoom out
[06:11] <PP188> hey, is screelets is nice?
[06:11] <shinobi> dr_willis you have to set that
[06:11] <Dr_willis> aha. ya mean hit alt-ctrl - left/right to change.. and down to zoom out to a filmstrip thang.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> or ya mean somthing else. :)
[06:11] <shinobi> dr_willis you can set a zoom factor for the 3d cube
[06:11] <bradydavis> dude im vnc'ed into this guys computer and he is not getting a console
[06:11] <Dr_willis> yea - trying to figure out where that beryl control panel is at now.
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, its one of the settings to zoom out on it
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, beryl-manager
[06:12] <Skrotffs> Try burning windows combined with motion blur, wobbly windows, raindrops on your desktop and some wild saturation values. =)
[06:12] <pl0xy> How can I get libdvdcss2?
[06:12] <Skrotffs> !codecs
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:13] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  heh - that wasent installed.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Nice how the command said "use sudo apt-get install .... yadda yadda" to install it.
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, it doesn't by default for some reason
[06:13] <Dr_willis> wonder how its doing that.
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, i think it uses the apt-cache database
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Tips/Default_Commands  there we go..
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> yet another thing i like about feisty
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: mettise
[06:14] <Skrotffs> Whats more important; how's the support for blob drivers (mainly nVidia) and easy installation of codecs in kubuntu?
[06:15] <Skrotffs> feisty that is. All the pics I've seen are from ubuntu
[06:15] <DaSkreech> anyone knows what language rekenmachine is ?
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> Skrotffs, pretty good, esp nvidia
[06:15] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yea thats it.. looked promising.. but with beryl i doubt if it takes off. :(
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> Skrotffs, plus they have a meta package that'll install all the restricted formats
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Super-key+Right-click Zoom in once - Hmm.. they mean that Ugly 'windows' key?
[06:15] <Skrotffs> I've also got a intel pro/wireless 3945abg card in my machine, is that binaryblobbed as well?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, heh, i put a little tux sticker over mine :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i dont even have one. i got an old - heavy clicky ibm keyboard.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> ps2 even
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> nice, the classics rock
[06:17] <Skrotffs> Nothing says "im a rocker" like a 1985 IBM keyboard =)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i cant even apt-get install beryl-manager its stuck at 0% - all the others users are hogging the bandwith! heh
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Skrotffs,  and those 'DasKeyboard Blank Keyboard Users' are just Wanna-Bee's!
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> lol, probably not the best day to try it :)
[06:18] <Skrotffs> Dr_willis: yeah, damn posers
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> well, there's always the DVORAK users...
[06:19] <Skrotffs> hippies
[06:19] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  the less said about THOSE the better. :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Just dont make eye contact with them.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:21] <hyperspace> kubuntu minimal upgrade from cd, need to reboot and provide anything special at the first menu screen?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm some of the Beryl Key's conflict with the kde keys dont they. the F7 -F9 stuff i think
[06:21] <igi> anybody had any problems with this distro-upgrade tool?
[06:22] <Skrotffs> Dr_willis: beryl in general conflicts with KDE :p
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Ill just use it with WindowMaker then! :)
[06:23] <Skrotffs> All the l33t kids use blackbox, don't you know?
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> beryl with WM, that would be interesting
[06:23] <RawSewage> I have no problems with Feisty, although I did have to edit the conf file to add my monitor and resolutions
[06:23] <DaSkreech> kwin_composite for the win
[06:23] <kalorin`> eeeewwww, transparent glowing windows!
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I do like that Move to the top-right-click and the windows all sort of thumbnail.
[06:23] <Skrotffs> DaSkreech: Thats right.
[06:24] <Skrotffs> Am I the only one checking in on the svn repository almost every day? :|
[06:24] <dboy> yea resolutions for me on feisty are messed up
[06:24] <dboy> I'll have to learn how to edit the conf file like you then to get it fixed
[06:24] <RawSewage> you need to find your monitor specs
[06:24] <RawSewage> refresh rates, vertical and horizonal
[06:24] <Whiz2> I'm using my Kubuntu computer as a dedicated web server, and I have some php pages on it. one of the features of the php pages is php mail. is there a special module or configuration i need to set in order for php mail to work?
[06:25] <shinobi> feisty install has hung at 85%
[06:25] <kalorin`> can someone explain to me what the point of transparent windows are if they only show all the way back to the background?
[06:25] <shinobi> installed openoffice.org-java-common
[06:25] <kalorin`> I want to see the iwindows in the middle
[06:25] <RawSewage> shinobi, probably downloading language packs or something.  servers are being hammered today
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> shinobi, the servers are packed right now
[06:25] <RawSewage> I propose that the first day of a release should be torrents only
[06:26] <shinobi> RawSewage - Thanks, good point. i should have stayed offline for the install i guess
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> shinobi, i just tried to get a 300k file, after 5 mins gave up
[06:27] <shinobi> hitmanWilly that bad huh
[06:27] <lavid> so, how do i get programs to run when KDE starts up? like an xmodmap or something
[06:27] <kalorin`> uggg
[06:27] <kalorin`> time to hit the sack
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> shinobi, yeah, that bad
[06:27] <shinobi> lavid - home/xxx/.kde/Autostart
[06:27] <lavid> shinobi: thanks
[06:27] <Whiz2> no one here knows about php mail?
[06:27] <shinobi> lavid put link or copy kmenu item in there
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> shinobi, i just have an executable startup script in there myself
[06:29] <shinobi> hitmanWilly I noticed that if you are lazy and just copy them out of kmenu editor, it just creates .dektop links without any of the other definitions
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> huh, that's kinda cool
[06:29] <RawSewage> you can right-click in the folder
[06:29] <shinobi> hitmanWilly I make my own, like you, but i guess for many people they wanna drag and drop
[06:29] <RawSewage> Add New
[06:30] <RawSewage> Create New -- Link to
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> whatever works
[06:30] <RawSewage> yes
[06:31] <shinobi> so i'm still stuck at 85% is this gonna be a failure? anyway to make it get on with installing without any online updates?
[06:31] <RawSewage> no
[06:31] <DaSkreech> anyone knows what language taal is ?
[06:31] <RawSewage> just wait
[06:31] <zxagent> hello everybody
[06:31] <shinobi> taal is language in dutch i think
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ah
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !nl
[06:32] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[06:33] <khatahn> is there a way to disable the icon englargement / fading out animation in feisty that appears when clicking on desktop icons?
[06:33] <matrix> hi, since the last feisty updates playing videos with mplayer freezes my ui. when i use x11 output it works. Why is that?
[06:33] <RawSewage> yes
[06:33] <RawSewage> Configure Panel
[06:34] <RawSewage> Appearance -  at the top
[06:34] <Rictoo> where is soces.list again?
[06:34] <Rictoo> sources*
[06:34] <Skrotffs> /etc/apt/
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:34] <Dr_willis> !find Kiba-dock
[06:34] <Rictoo> thanks
[06:34] <ubotu> Package/file kiba-dock does not exist in feisty
[06:35] <RawSewage> Themes need to be cleaned up and centralized
[06:35] <RawSewage> for KDE
[06:35] <DaSkreech> shinobi: thanks
[06:35] <RawSewage> seems like every theme has its own installation instructions
[06:36] <shinobi> DaSkreech - was that right?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  'themes' under kde - can be rather complex.
[06:36] <shinobi> Dr_willis right, can be tricky, lots of differnt things to set right o that a theme works
[06:36] <DaSkreech> No idea but it's a path
[06:36] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, it's good that theres lots of choices
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> KDE doesn't really have any built in 'themes', the various themes just set up specific options
[06:37] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  not just that theres a lot of choices.. its tht the 'themeing system' can use executables to do some very custome things. Its not just a collection of images for a theme. :)
[06:37] <matrix> i'd love to be able to play videos like before. x11 output doesn't allow fullscreen
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Yea even the term 'theme' gets a bit overused.
[06:38] <shinobi> hat theme setting does the style but not the window decoration, that confuses me
[06:38] <Whiz2> My installation of libapache2-mod-php5 is the most current version, but my php mail isn't working. (No one receives mail sent through php mail at all) can someone tel me what i need to do to configure it to work properly?
[06:38] <khatahn> matrix: do you have the proper display drivers in use?
[06:38] <RawSewage> plus theres no link to Theme Manager anywhere
[06:38] <RawSewage> you have to manually type kthememanager
[06:39] <flaccid> Whiz2: #php
[06:39] <Whiz2> flaccid: tyvm
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, kcontol is still there, just hidden
[06:39] <shinobi> in general how come people use system settings not kcontrol?
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm loving the automatic codec installation
[06:39] <RawSewage> that didnt work for me
[06:39] <flaccid> np
[06:39] <RawSewage> I tried to play an mp3, and Amarok asked me if I wanted the coded, and I clicked, and it crashed
[06:39] <se7en> Daisuke_Ido: how doese that work
[06:40] <shinobi> woohoo! 97% - cleaning up
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, you can apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras to install all of that
[06:40] <Rictoo> hehe, nice, shinobi
[06:40] <Rictoo> =p
[06:40] <nbcb> hi i'm downloading kubuntu 7.04 now.. but what's the difference between desktop and alternate cd? which to choose?
[06:40] <Rictoo> I'm about to start it right now =p
[06:40] <RawSewage> hitmanWilly, not kubuntu?
[06:40] <shinobi> one has desktop, one is text install
[06:41] <RawSewage> I just did the old  libxine-extracodecs
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, no, same package for both
[06:41] <RawSewage> what else does restricted-extras have
[06:41] <nbcb> do u mean alternate have no gui install?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde vice gnome
[06:41] <just-this-time> \o
[06:41] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  i always put that SYstemSettings Icon on the Panel first thing. Its under the 'add applets to panel' menu.
[06:41] <just-this-time> !networking
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <shinobi> nbcb if you know what you're doing, i like the alternate cds, just using that one right now
[06:41] <Rictoo> !ubuntu
[06:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:41] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, Yeah, I usually do that too.  that has a Theme link
[06:41] <matrix> khatahn: i have nvidia drivers. quite happy with those as now even the twien view settup ui they provide works.
[06:42] <shinobi> booting now- that was about 40 minutes even with the slow downloads
[06:42] <just-this-time> guys after imaging what to  do to bring eth0 up on new machine? different netcard  ofcourse
[06:42] <Dr_willis> There needs to be a hard look at some of this stuff like that. and some logically moved/tweaked stuff. :) but thats proberly going to be in KDE4
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, mp3, libdvdcss3, flash, java, etc
[06:43] <nbcb> so alternate = plain text installation menu, no option to choose to install in gui ? and desktop version = gui installation with no option to choose text base installation?
[06:43] <RawSewage> hitmanWilly, oh cool
[06:43] <bigdad1e> how do i get the wireless card in my laptop to work? i just installed kubuntu the newest version amd64 bit on my laptop but cvant get it to connect to any of my internet
[06:43] <khatahn> matrix: ah, well, -vo xv _should_ work with those
[06:43] <just-this-time> lspci shows me intel onboard 82562ez 10/100
[06:43] <Dr_willis> nbcb,  desktop = live cd + a fancy installer.. also. :)
[06:44] <nbcb> oic.. ok i like fancy
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, you still have to run the script installed with libdvdcss3 to play copy protected dvds tho
[06:44] <matrix> khatahn: i will try again. if my system crashes you will see me leave ;)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> nbcb,  fancy looking. :) but i find the alternative cd installer more 'clear'
[06:44] <RawSewage> I just realized something.  I didnt have to edit sources to allow libxine-extracodecs to install
[06:44] <khatahn> matrix: it crashes the whole system? that's not nice :/
[06:44] <RawSewage> no multiverse editing
[06:45] <shinobi> Dr_willis nbcb - agree with that, alternate is kinda minimalist but useful
[06:45] <nbcb> Dr_willis: if i have problem with loading up the desktop (graphics card problem) then i have to use alternate right?
[06:45] <bigdad1e> how do i get my internet working on my laptop?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  heh -  yep. i noticed that also. I wonder if the time that totem or whatever wanted the codecs it edited that.
[06:45] <shinobi> feisty is up!
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> !wireless
[06:45] <matrix> khatahn: it crashed my x system. had hard time to switch to console. with -vo xv it work
[06:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:45] <Dr_willis> nbcb,  if you have gfx problem with the live cd.. hmmm..  thats a bad sign. :)
[06:45] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, possible
[06:46] <matrix> khatahn: now i wounder why it crahes if i give no parameter to mplayer
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> bigdad1e, follow the link from ubotu
[06:46] <khatahn> matrix: hmm.. well, just configure it in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[06:46] <nbcb> so..what's new in 7.04?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> nbcb,  about everything. :)
[06:47] <matrix> khatahn: is there any quality draw back by using xv when videos are scalled to full screen size? or doesn't the quality when resizing depend on the vo setting?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Ok. im sick of the wiggly windows beryl stuff. :)
[06:49] <matrix> which is the currently supported way to start beryl with kde? gnome has a menu entry, right?
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> matrix, so does kde
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> matrix, beryl-manager
[06:49] <Dr_willis> of course kubuntu dosent isntall several of the beryl related files by default - is one issue i noticed
[06:50] <dwhite> I am using the 7.04 Beta - do I have to change anything with repositories etc. or am I now set for the release? any docs I should read?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> dwhite,  i  just do a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[06:50] <khatahn> matrix: the quality takes a hit always when scaling is involved, but xv should be the best option. and anyway, the scaling quality depends more on how mplayer does it, xv is just a method of displaying the output mplayer produces
[06:51] <RawSewage> dist-upgrade
[06:51] <Dr_willis> dwhite,  but at this time the servers are all getting hammered...
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> dwhite, if you've updated in the last couple days, you're not running the beta anymore
[06:51] <RawSewage> oh nm
[06:51] <Dr_willis> i updated yesterday about midnight
[06:51] <matrix> khatahn: thx for the detailed explanation
[06:52] <shinobi> sources.list for feisty? how close to my edgy list can this be for the non-standard repos? (medibuntu etc..)
[06:52] <user_> after imaging network interface went to eth1 as if eth0 is another card
[06:52] <dwhite> thanx Dr_willis  - I wasn't getting anything new for the last day - was concered - will just continue
[06:52] <matrix> hitmanWilly: when i execute beryl-manager in the konsole i loose my window decorations
[06:52] <user_> confusing a bit I want network interface back from eth1 to eth0 where to look pls ?
[06:53] <matrix> hitmanWilly: and give this information over and over in the output
[06:53] <matrix> hitmanWilly: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> matrix: running an nvidia card?
[06:53] <matrix> hitmanWilly: yes with nvidia
[06:53] <shinobi> is it fair to say today is not a great day to be doing an upgrade
[06:53] <shinobi> unless you have boundless patience
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> matrix: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[06:54] <madmike> all upgraded ... why is it that beer and linux go so good togeather?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> matrix: then restart x
[06:55] <DaSkreech> shinobi: Whoot! thanks
[06:56] <shinobi> DaSkreech was it?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> shinobi: yup
[06:56] <shinobi> DaSkreech cool
[06:57] <user_> !ati
[06:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <bigdad1e> ok now i did everything i could to get my wireless working.. but when i click enable wireless from admin mode it turns on the right back off
[06:57] <bigdad1e> what do i do?
[06:58] <shinobi> bigdad1e you may have to edit the interfaces to only show the lo, knetwork manager and the system setting for network don't play nice
[06:58] <bigdad1e> and how would i go about doing that?
[06:58] <shinobi> i avoid that system setting network panel totally
[06:59] <bigdad1e> i just bought my laptop today it came with vista but i cant handle windows anymore
[06:59] <shinobi> bigdad1e sorry: is this a broadcom card?
[07:00] <bigdad1e> i dont know how would i find out?
[07:00] <RawSewage> can I install the Restricted Devices Manager in Kubuntu to install nvidia drivers
[07:00] <bigdad1e> yes it is
[07:00] <bigdad1e> it is broadcom
[07:00] <shinobi> bigdad1e okay, did you do any special install steps yet?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, yeah, anything you can install in ubuntu, you can install in kubuntu
[07:01] <RawSewage> hitmanWilly, but will it work in KDE
[07:01] <bigdad1e> no i havent
[07:01] <user_> ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE -- good for beryl -compiz ?
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, it'll just bring some gnome dependencies with it
[07:01] <shinobi> bigdad1e there are two approaches as far as i can tell with this, the fwcutter route and the ndiswrapper route
[07:01] <RawSewage> hitmanWilly, ok ty
[07:01] <shinobi> i have most success with the ndiswrapper route
[07:01] <bigdad1e> ok
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> RawSewage, and yes, anything that works in gnome works in kde and vice versa
[07:01] <shinobi> bigdad1e let me find the useful link
[07:02] <bigdad1e> ok
[07:02] <bigdad1e> thanks
[07:03] <nonuda> any1 here used gambas?
[07:05] <shinobi> bigdad1e can't find the link, and i think it was confusing anyway
[07:05] <shinobi> bigdad1e but basically
[07:05] <arunkale> where is my sources.list located
[07:06] <shinobi> remove the fwcutter43xx pacakge
[07:06] <bigdad1e> ok. now what do i do? can u walk me through it?
[07:06] <shinobi> bigdad1e add ndiswrapper 1.8
[07:06] <arunkale> I'm planning to cancel my Feisty upgrade
[07:06] <arunkale> It's taking too long
[07:06] <shinobi> bigdad1e (using adept, or synaptic, or apt-get or whatever)
[07:06] <bigdad1e> i cant get any packages from online. its wont even let me connect through ethernet
[07:07] <bigdad1e> im on my desktop right now
[07:07] <arunkale> Will my sources.list be modified, if i cancel it now will everything work on rebooting?
[07:07] <shinobi> bigdad1e ooh, bad...that's tricky, you coukd manually download all the files and put them on a cd or usb drive i guess
[07:08] <shinobi> bigdad1e but no network access at all makes things tricky, can you not get an ethernet connection up?
[07:08] <bigdad1e> nope
[07:08] <bigdad1e> it will say conected but will not connect
[07:09] <dani> hy fiesty recoginzes my bcm 43xx(4209) mini pci lan wirless card, the lan wired works fine but wireless can't search for ssid's and it won't even connect to the one i configure manually
[07:09] <arunkale> can i cancel my feisty upgrade? anyone?
[07:09] <dani> so can any body help me configure it using windows drivers and ndiswrapper
[07:09] <shinobi> bigdad1e okay, well, you may have to go to the repos and get your ndiswrapper 1.8 and any dependencies by hand then
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, unless it's actually started installing packages, not just downloading, then yes
[07:10] <dani> apt get can't find ndiswrapper and i edit universal repos in fiesty like it was 6.10
[07:10] <bigdad1e> damn
[07:10] <compilerwriter> I am back from a few difficulties with the upgrade, mostly caused by my utilizing XDMCP
[07:10] <shinobi> bigdad1e luckily feisty has knetwork manager already so only ndiswrapper 1.8, it only has a few dependencies
[07:10] <compilerwriter> so far so good.
[07:10] <MuJ> it's feisty
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> brb all
[07:11] <bigdad1e> feisty is a pain in my a$$ shoulda stuck with drappy
[07:12] <Taladan> After my upgrade to feisty, I'm getting an error that I'm missing libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6-3.53  anyone know how I can resolve this?
[07:12] <shinobi> bigdad1e my feisty i just instaled five minutes ago is giving me ethernet access no worries, was about to install my broadcom card anyway so i could have given you a guide
[07:12] <Taladan> I've tried apt-get install -f but I get errors
[07:12] <arunkale> it says 'system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade'
[07:13] <arunkale> will it modify my sources.list or any other important files?
[07:15] <bigdad1e> i just installed mine 5 mins ago too..lol but thanks
[07:16] <shinobi> bigdad1e strange - is your enet card funny? or the connection type?
[07:16] <dani> whats the password for root user in fiesty
[07:17] <dani> and how do i change to root or super user
[07:17] <shinobi> dani you don't
[07:17] <Taladan> muahahaha!  I cheated and got around it.  Swank.
[07:17] <arunkale> where is the sources.list located
[07:17] <shinobi> dani password is same as the user you created on install
[07:17] <bigdad1e> no its a built in ethnet the connections just str8 cable
[07:17] <giovani> dani: ubuntu has you use sudo command when you want to run things as root
[07:17] <arunkale> got it
[07:17] <giovani> if you really want to enable your root user bash login type "sudo passwd"
[07:18] <giovani> and then choose a password for root
[07:18] <giovani> the password sudo asks you for is your user's password
[07:18] <dani> shinobi can u tell me how i can u tell me how to access my windows partition (sda 1) from kubuntu
[07:18] <dani> giovani thx
[07:18] <shinobi> dani is it fat32 or ntfs?
[07:18] <dani> ntfs
[07:18] <shinobi> dani okay, i think you should not try and write to it then
[07:19] <giovani> shinobi: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Windows
[07:19] <giovani> I know it says edgy, but it's the proper way to set it up for feisty too
[07:19] <bigdad1e> shinobi: ill brb im gonna try to fix it again
[07:20] <giovani> dani: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[07:20] <shinobi> dani see giovani 's link
[07:20] <giovani> that's probably the link he wants
[07:20] <giovani> ntfs read/write by all users
[07:20] <shinobi> giovani dani but i think writing to ntfs is bad
[07:20] <arunkale> ok, my sources.list is changed to sources.list.distUpgrade and the new sources.list has all feisty repos
[07:20] <giovani> sigh
[07:20] <arunkale> how do i change things back to the way they were
[07:20] <giovani> shinobi: it's not "bad" -- it's just not perfectly stable
[07:21] <shinobi> giovani that's the same thing, if it mangles your base system, it's 'bad'
[07:21] <dani> giovani: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 should i change the hda to sda1
[07:21] <shinobi> giovani but point taken
[07:21] <giovani> shinobi: "not perfectly stable" doesn't mean "unstable"
[07:21] <giovani> I use ntfs-3g on a daily basis
[07:21] <shinobi> dani yes
[07:21] <giovani> dani: whatever your system is ...
[07:21] <dani> k thx
[07:21] <shinobi> as per your drives
[07:22] <shinobi> you may want to mount it somewhere other than that too
[07:22] <giovani> you'll need to create /media/windows
[07:22] <giovani> because that mountpoint doesn't exist by default
[07:23] <dani> giovani k thx
[07:23] <shinobi> dani and if you wanna make it read/write, then you may need to create it with the right permissions, or even just in your home directory
[07:23] <giovani> well
[07:23] <giovani> if he wants read/write, he needs the ntfs-3g packages
[07:23] <matrix> looks like beryl is now starting. where do i start it per default? red something about kde auto start but i am not sure what/where it is? how to use it?
[07:24] <shinobi> giovani do you have a useful sources.list suggestion for feisty media packages and so on
[07:24] <giovani> shinobi: check the wiki?
[07:24] <shinobi> giovani thanks
[07:25] <giovani> matrix: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Autostart_for_Kubuntu
[07:25] <giovani> googling is REALLY good :)
[07:26] <dani> giovani i want to install ndiswrapper for my network card the lan works but not the wireless if its someway to fix without ndiswrapper if not where can i download from for kubuntu
[07:26] <giovani> dani: I don't know what you're asking
[07:26] <giovani> could you rephrase that?
[07:27] <dani> giovani: install ndiswrapper for kubuntu
[07:27] <giovani> !ndiswrapper
[07:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <giovani> dani: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:29] <Kubuntu-Noob> Kubuntu 6.10 comes with ndiswrapper allready in it edge eft
[07:29] <Kubuntu-Noob> *edgy eft
[07:30] <Kubuntu-Noob> and the alternate version  will run with < 192 MB of ram
[07:30] <Kubuntu-Noob> just installed myself and trying to get my WG511 WiFi to work
[07:30] <giovani> uhm
[07:30] <giovani> ndiswrapper is not installed by default in 6.10
[07:30] <Kubuntu-Noob> not?
[07:31] <giovani> no
[07:31] <Kubuntu-Noob> well I'm just a noob
[07:31] <Kubuntu-Noob> what do I know
[07:31] <Kubuntu-Noob> It seemed like it detected my card though.
[07:31] <shinobi> dani is there not a ndiwrapper 1.9 package
[07:31] <mikes1> atheros working in the final release/
[07:31] <mikes1> ?
[07:31] <shinobi> dani i have that one available on my brand new install with no changes to sources
[07:31] <giovani> mikes1: atheros is well-supported in linux, no reason why it shouldn't be working -- are you experiencing problems?
[07:32] <WillLuongo> What is the command to edit the default webbrowser?
[07:32] <giovani> WillLuongo: it's in the KDE System Settings -- dig around
[07:32] <who_> can somebody explain to me how to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[07:32] <mikes1> giovani: feisty has been in the past ,Just wondering if it was fixed in the final
[07:32] <Kubuntu-Noob> mine detected a wifi0 and an ath0 something or other when I installed to HD
[07:32] <giovani> mikes1: feisty has been what?
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> !upgrade > who_
[07:33] <shinobi> Kubuntu-Noob it detects, but it can't run without the driver, which is not open
[07:33] <Kubuntu-Noob> both were atheros somethings,  Is that the chipset
[07:33] <Kubuntu-Noob> ok
[07:33] <dani> does fiesty have ndiswrapper by default
[07:33] <giovani> dani: no
[07:33] <Kubuntu-Noob> so ndiswrapper -i <inf file>
[07:33] <shinobi> Kubuntu-Noob not for atheros though only broadcom, atheros worked out the box for me
[07:33] <Kubuntu-Noob> right?
[07:33] <dani> where can i get the packages for kubuntu
[07:33] <giovani> shinobi: ... what?
[07:33] <shinobi> Kubuntu-Noob for braodcom yes
[07:33] <who_> how do i upgrade?
[07:33] <giovani> madwifi is atheros -- it's open source
[07:34] <WillLuongo> giovani: The system settings doesn't do it. there is a console command somewhere that does it...
[07:34] <dani> i found the ndiswrapper for ubuntu
[07:34] <Kubuntu-Noob> so atheros is the WG511 chipset
[07:34] <dani> but not kubuntu
[07:34] <giovani> WillLuongo: the system settings DO do it -- that's how I have it configured
[07:34] <Kubuntu-Noob> . . . in the PCMCIA card
[07:34] <giovani> dani: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same system, kubuntu just includes kde packages
[07:34] <shinobi> dani is this not the same thing
[07:35] <dani> sorry i didn't know that it can run on kubuntu as well
[07:35] <giovani> kubuntu isn't a different system
[07:35] <giovani> kubuntu is ubuntu + kde, simple as that
[07:36] <Kubuntu-Noob> without KDE does ubuntu have a GUI ?
[07:36] <giovani> drivers are exactly the same, anything relating to non-kde stuff is exactly the same
[07:36] <Kubuntu-Noob> or prompt only or something?
[07:36] <giovani> Kubuntu-Noob: ubuntu's default gui is gnome
[07:36] <mikes1> Kubuntu-Noob: yes
[07:36] <JabberWokky> What package do I install to add more bandwidth to the mirror servers?  Also, where is the setting in the Control Panel to thank all the people offering support?  I'm also having trouble finding a problem.  Would love some help.  :)
[07:36] <mikes1> can run both
[07:36] <Kubuntu-Noob> how do you mount an atheros device?
[07:37] <shinobi> bigdad1e if you are still there, ndiswrapper is on the cd of feisty it seems
[07:37] <giovani> Kubuntu-Noob: are you seriously trolling us?
[07:37] <dani> k thx for ur help guys hopefully i get it right this time
[07:37] <giovani> just get over that
[07:37] <Kubuntu-Noob> what's that mean?
[07:37] <Kubuntu-Noob> trolling. . .
[07:38] <Kubuntu-Noob> what
[07:38] <Kubuntu-Noob> what's trolling giovani?
[07:50] <dew> bishinightbird, okay, i'll give it a try
[07:50] <mikes1> Dodger73: sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <mikes1> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:50] <Dodger73> mikes1: i did that as well
[07:50] <Dodger73> ah
[07:51] <mikes1> repo's?
[07:51] <Dodger73> ok dist-upgrade i didn't try ;)
[07:51] <Dodger73> i figured that's what adept is doing anyway, just didn't want to screw up my system :P
[07:51] <mikes1> i do not like 'adept"
[07:51] <Dodger73> i like synaptic better, although adept is much faster at searching for packages
[07:53] <Dodger73> mikes1: dist-upgrade says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[07:53] <mackyman> Dodger73: Have you really activated  edgy-upgrade?
[07:53] <mikes1> ok you need to add/enable additional repos
[07:54] <Dodger73> edgy-upgrade? the doc didn't mention that ;)
[07:54] <Dodger73> just edgy-updates
[07:54] <Dodger73> i'll try that
[07:54] <mackyman> Dodger73: In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates
[07:54] <mackyman> Ops
[07:55] <Dodger73> mackyman: yeah, that edgy-updates is enabled
[07:56] <mackyman> Dodger73: I was forced to quit Adept once and then press Fetch updates 2 times
[07:56] <mackyman> Before I got the update version button
[07:56] <Dodger73> mackyman: here's an interesting tidbit
[07:57] <Dodger73> apt-get update outputs:   Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main
[07:57] <Dodger73> Ign means ignored?
[07:57] <mackyman> that it ignores that line
[07:57] <mackyman> =P
[07:57] <mackyman> Exactly why, I don't know
[07:57] <Kubuntu-Noob> goodnight all kubuntu gurus and students -  thanks for the help
[07:58] <codepoet> is there an easy way to transfer files from windowsXP running under vmware? SMB from windows to the linux host doesnt appear to work
[07:58] <codepoet> maybe a virtual drive browser of some sort?
[07:58] <mackyman> codepoet: From a windows partition on your computer?
[07:58] <codepoet> nope, virtual drive
[07:59] <codepoet> hardfile sorta
[07:59] <mackyman> Urg... Never played aroun with wmware... Sorry, can't help you
[07:59] <codepoet> np ;
[07:59] <codepoet> ;\
[08:00] <martinjh99> Which package do I need for a Stylus D88+ Printer?  No driver by default...
[08:01] <unix_infidel> smb works just fine.
[08:02] <_Hug[o] _> final release is out?
[08:02] <unix_infidel> although, you CAN mount a virtual partition in nix.
[08:02] <mackyman> martinjh99: wait a moment, I shall se if I can get you something
[08:02] <unix_infidel> _Hug[o] _: heck topic.
[08:02] <unix_infidel> check*
[08:02] <_Hug[o] _> Is it recommended to upgrade?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> as long as the version you are running is still supported, its all about what you want.
[08:03] <martinjh99> Thanks mackyman - Looking myself on linuxprinting.org
[08:04] <mackyman> _Hug[o] _: Own preferences... I wuld wait thou... No to many great changes, better to wait and let feisty get some more stability
[08:04] <_Hug[o] _> mackyman: That's what I thought from my experience with edgy.
[08:04] <_Hug[o] _> I had some problems after I upgraded
[08:05] <_Hug[o] _> I would wait a month or two
[08:05] <mackyman> _Hug[o] _: The edgy upgrade was a real bumpy one
[08:06] <mackyman> The feisty is better
[08:06] <mackyman> But still, mine crashed
[08:06] <mackyman> Yet it did a much better job than e completed edgy upgrade =P
[08:06] <mackyman> martinjh99: It seems to be supported atleast
[08:07] <martinjh99> I know been printing with OpenSuse - Just installed Fiesty and can't find the driver in the default install...
[08:08] <mackyman> martinjh99: Frustrating
[08:08] <martinjh99> FOund it - had to install foomatic-db-gutenprint...  Maybe its because I didn't have it turned on when I installed Fiesty ;)
[08:09] <codepoet> unix_infidel: If I share a folder on the XP install under VM, I can see it from all other machines on the network and access it. When I try to browse that folder on the linux host, I get "sorry, couldn't display all contents of "windows network: <computer name>"
[08:10] <mackyman> martinjh99: Maybe!
[08:10] <unix_infidel> codepoet: personally i just run SSHD and scp all the needed files.
[08:10] <martinjh99> :) Thanks for the effort though...
[08:10] <mackyman> martinjh99: Have you tried the stylus driver?
[08:11] <codepoet> unix_infidel: good idea! might try that
[08:11] <unix_infidel> i COULD mount the nix virtual machine in windows or linux, but i'd rather avoid it.
[08:12] <sstchur> Has anyone experienced wireless/ndiswrapper problems with Feisty?
[08:12] <unix_infidel> sstchur: quite a few people.
[08:12] <khatahn> anyone else have a problem with firefox not always displaying the contents of a website until the firefox window is resized? i've had this problem at least in dapper, edgy and now still in feisty, and it's starting to get really annoying
[08:12] <sstchur> unix_infidel: is there any sort of wiki/help page about issues related to wifi in feisty?
[08:13] <unix_infidel> sstchur: seeing as it was just released today.
[08:13] <unix_infidel> nope.
[08:13] <unix_infidel> not that i know of.
[08:13] <mackyman> sstchur: I hade problems, but they where solved
[08:13] <sstchur> mackyman: what were your problems?
[08:13] <mackyman> sstchur: I culdn't connect to netword with network manager, so I had to configure manually
[08:13] <sstchur> mackyman: my situation is odd.  Ndiswrappers work fantastically in Edgy... now they neither native nor ndiswrapper drivers seem to be working
[08:14] <mackyman> sstchur: And with the Feisty, I had to remove the "managed" line in my config-file
[08:14] <mackyman> sstchur: Something wrong with the Zeroconf for me...
[08:14] <sstchur> mackyman: hmm... okay.  Not sure how to attack my problem
[08:15] <mackyman> Have you used manual config?
[08:15] <RawSewage> the restricted-manager doesnt seem to work in Kubuntu
[08:15] <sstchur> mackyman: No... I've been using KNetworkmanager...
[08:15] <mackyman> kk
[08:16] <kraut> moin
[08:16] <mackyman> KNetworkmanager won't find my networks...
[08:16] <sstchur> mackyman: oddly, KNetworkmanager does see various wireless networks (mine included), but I can't seem to connect
[08:16] <shinobi> sstchur does it stop at 28%?
[08:17] <sstchur> mackyman: I have an atheros chipset, but native drivers for me are awful -- horrible signal strength.  So (in Edgy) I switched to ndiswrapper, and everything was great
[08:17] <mackyman> sstchur: Seems like wireless assistant for me =P
[08:17] <sstchur> shinobi: yes, often it stops at 28%
[08:17] <shinobi> sstchur atheros chipset?
[08:17] <mackyman> sstchur: How do you change your drivers?
[08:18] <sstchur> mackyman: in Edgy, I used to do sudo modprobe -r ath_pci and then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper.  then I'd start knetworkmanager and everything was good
[08:18] <mackyman> ahhhh
[08:18] <sstchur> shinobi: my network card's chipset
[08:18] <shinobi> sstchur okay
[08:19] <shinobi> sstchur in edgy i got that out of the box without any sprcial config
[08:19] <sstchur> mackyman: I never figured out how to permenantly unload ath_pci and put ndiswrapper in place of it, so I always did it manually
[08:19] <sstchur> shinobi: got what out of the box?  your network card running?
[08:19] <mackyman> sstchur: errr... /etc/moudes.d something
[08:20] <sstchur> mackyman: ok... but still, that isn't related to my current issue, is it?
[08:20] <shinobi> sstchur yeah, without ndiswrapper i think, for some reason i have all broadcom cards but i tried it once with an atheros and it worked without al the fuss
[08:20] <mackyman> sstchur: no... But you know from now that you can edit  /etc/modules
[08:20] <sstchur> shinobi: mine also work out of the box with edgy, but the signal strength was terrible w/ native drivers, so I switched to ndiswrapper
[08:20] <sstchur> mackyman: ok, thanks
[08:21] <mackyman> sstchur: hmmm...
[08:21] <fakepatriot> does anyone here know how to use creox?
[08:21] <sstchur> mackyman: there is something odd... in edgy, when I had ath_pci module loaded, I could alway tell b/c knetworkmanager would show my wireless network with very poor signal strength
[08:21] <sstchur> mackyman: if I unloaded ath_pci and loaded ndiswrapper, knetworkmanger would show full strength
[08:22] <shinobi> sstchur okay, i understand. sorry i can't help further i only have broadcoms now and i'm just about to see how it works out in feisty
[08:22] <sstchur> mackyman: in Feisty, I always see poor strength, which makes me wonder if ndiswrapper is loading properly
[08:22] <shinobi> sstchur with ndiswrapper, i always show 100% signal strength by the way
[08:22] <sstchur> shinobi: me too!  or i did in Edgy anyway, now I don't anymore
[08:22] <mackyman> sstchur: lspci and check if feisty finds it?
[08:22] <sstchur> shinobi: so I'm wondering if it's loaded properly
[08:23] <sstchur> mackyman: lspci or lsmod?
[08:23] <shinobi> sstchur i don' think it was REALLY 100%, just some thing that doesn't work via ndiswrapper
[08:23] <sstchur> shinobi: yeah, could be
[08:23] <mackyman> lsmod shows wich modules that is loaded
[08:23] <mackyman> That seems like the thing to do first
[08:23] <sstchur> mackyman: right, don't I want to verify that my modprobe ndiswrapper worked?
[08:24] <shinobi> ndiswrapper -l
[08:24] <sstchur> mackyman: lspci shows Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications....
[08:24] <sstchur> mackyman: but how do I know if the ndiswrapper is being used, or the native driver?
[08:24] <mackyman> lspci shows don't show wich drivers used
[08:25] <mackyman> But wich devices are found
[08:25] <mackyman> Now you atleast know that the device is found
[08:25] <mackyman> lsmod grep | ndiswrapper ?
[08:25] <mackyman> ops...
[08:25] <mackyman> lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[08:27] <fakepatriot> !creox
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <sstchur> mackyman: yeah, lsmod | grep ndiswrapper shows ndiswrapper
[08:28] <mackyman> check if you native drivers is loaded too then
[08:29] <sstchur> mackyman: lsmod | grep ath turns up ath_rate_sample, wlan, and ath_hal, but not ath_pci (which is what I believe it would right?)
[08:29] <mackyman> sstchur: Seems right there too...
[08:30] <mackyman> sstchur: did you check as shinobi said? ndiswrapper -l ?
[08:30] <sstchur> mackyman: so maybe shinobi is right, that ndiswrapper showing 100% signal strength in the past was a bug, and the lower strength i see now is accurate
[08:30] <mackyman> sstchur: Not totaly impossible
[08:31] <sstchur> mackyman: ndiswrapper -l shows neta3ab: driver installed, but it also shows something I never saw with Edgy:  device (blah_numbers) present (alternate driver: ath_pci)
[08:31] <shinobi> sstchur mackyman it's always bothered me that all networks show as 100%, even since breezy days
[08:31] <shinobi> only didn't do it when i was using fwcutter for a while, or that time with the atheros card
[08:32] <mackyman> sstchur: Didn't you say that none of the drivers seems to work? Can you even connect to a network?
[08:33] <mackyman> sstchur: or even see any networks?
[08:34] <sstchur> mackyman: yes, I can see networks for sure,... right now I'm wired
[08:34] <sstchur> mackyman: I can try connecting to my network, but i don't know if it will work
[08:34] <mackyman> sstchur: try atleast
[08:35] <sstchur> mackyman: with native drivers, it dropped off a lot, and when it dropped off I could never re-connect w/o resetting my router.
[08:35] <shinobi> sstchur can be that /network/interfaces
[08:35] <sstchur> mackyman: ndiswrappers didn't have thta problem
[08:35] <sstchur> and right now, it tries to connect and then dies and asks for my wpa key again (does this over and over and over)
[08:35] <sstchur> but I can try again
[08:35] <shinobi> sstchur needs to list only lo if using knetwork manager sometimes
[08:35] <mikes1> sstchur: i was having the same problem
[08:35] <mackyman> sstchur: If it is as suspected, that ndiswrapper showed wrong signal strength, then you shuld prolly be able to connect again
[08:35] <mikes1> i=I
[08:36] <shinobi> sstchur there is an issue with the wpa/wep that happens due to the /network/interfaces conflict
[08:37] <LastMall> anyone have a thought or two on static vs. shared packages and which might be preferred ?
[08:37] <sstchur> shinobi: any work-around?
[08:37] <sstchur> Ok, I'm going to try the wireless again.... i'll probably get booted from here
[08:37] <noiesmo> hey all trying to compile an app and I am getting the following error any help appriciated http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16504/
[08:41] <mikes1> A clean install is best
[08:41] <Crypt> hello?
[08:41] <mikes1> hello
[08:41] <sstchur_> signal strength is showing 2 bars instead of the 4 it showed before
[08:42] <Crypt> i was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is any ppc release at all fro kubuntu fesity
[08:42] <mikes1> sstchur_: staying connected/
[08:42] <jager> i wish
[08:42] <sstchur_> mikes1: ?
[08:42] <jager> i thought they dropped ppc
[08:42] <jager> sucks too i just got this old imac i want to use
[08:43] <mikes1> sstchur_: My lapy would drop the conection ,'atheros'
[08:43] <Crypt> i remember seeing nightlies or betas but can't find any released iso today :-(
[08:43] <sstchur_> mikes1: ah... yeah, it happened to me all the time until I switched to ndiswrapper
[08:43] <jager> hm
[08:44] <mikes1> Crypt: Distrowatch
[08:44] <sstchur_> mikes1: worst part was: when it disconnected, I coudln't reconnect without resetting my router
[08:44] <mikes1> sstchur_: ok i will try iy
[08:44] <jager> !google fiesty ppc
[08:44] <mikes1> it
[08:44] <sstchur_> How do I get my nick back?
[08:45] <jager> is it a registered nick
[08:45] <jager> ?
[08:45] <sstchur_> jager: yes
[08:45] <jager> msg nickserve ghost sstchur yerpassword
[08:45] <Crypt> *sigh*
[08:45] <jager> i think :)
[08:45] <sstchur_> jager: thanks
[08:46] <RawSewage> how do I configure it so clicking a file starts it immediately in amarok rather than queuing it
[08:47] <kubuntu> Is it necessary to upgrade the 7.04 if I installed the 7.04 beta a couple of weeks ago? Does the Beta update itself to the final 7.04 release?
[08:48] <Jucato> kubuntu: yes you can just update to final.
[08:48] <shinobi> no  work around. sstchur just empty /network/interfaces of all except lo
[08:48] <mikes1> yes
[08:48] <ax_cam> OK, I haven't seen an option in the update manager (yet) so I figured it was automatically done.
[08:49] <ax_cam> Works very well anyway, very pleased with it!
[08:49] <sstchur> shinobi: now do you do that?
[08:49] <sstchur> shinobi: i mean "how..."
[08:50] <shinobi> i do: alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces and then edit that file to leave only the lo line and the associated ip address of lo
[08:50] <sstchur> shinobi: ah, ok, thanks
[08:51] <shinobi> sstchur i have only these lines in there now: auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[08:52] <Whiz2> anyone here know what package i need to install in order to have POP ir IMAP capabilities using exim4?
[08:54] <Crypt> still coming up with nothing :-(
[08:57] <pollyo> I'm thinking about installing ubuntu on my next machine and just adding kde to it.  I believe that Gnome and KDE both use a different program in the underlining system. Kdm and Gdm perhaps?
[08:57] <pollyo> Does one have an advantage over the other?
[08:57] <myky> all: hi can we help me with this?
[08:57] <unix_infidel> pollyo: they are two totally different ways of doing things.
[08:57] <myky> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:57] <unix_infidel> pollyo: what exactly do you WANT to do.
[08:58] <unix_infidel> how much space do you have on your hard drive, what are your specs?
[08:58] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I want to find out if anyone happens to know the difference in choosing either of those.  Kdm over Gdm. (if I have the right names)
[08:58] <RawSewage> how do I configure it so when I click an audio file, it plays in amarok rather than getting queued
[08:59] <Trouble> Has anyone managed to upgrade to 7.04 via Adept yet?
[08:59] <unix_infidel> pollyo: they are two totally different ways of doing things like i said.
[08:59] <mikes1> pollyo: they both work fine
[08:59] <Trouble> Despite being up to date I don't have an option to upgrade
[08:59] <unix_infidel> gdm is gnome's login screen type application, and kdm is KDE's
[08:59] <jager> wow still no projectM in feisty
[08:59] <unix_infidel> to put it in simple terms.
[08:59] <jager> bummer
[08:59] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Ok.  How do they differ or is it a big difference?
[09:00] <unix_infidel> pollyo: they differ greatly.
[09:00] <sstchur> Feisty actually seems quite a bit snappier in terms of opening applications for me.  Is that expected, or is my mind just playing tricks on me?
[09:00] <unix_infidel> pollyo: you installing for the first time?
[09:00] <mikes1> pollyo: I have kde and gnome installed and use kdm
[09:00] <pollyo> mikes1: On this system I have kdm running and have both as well.
[09:00] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I will be on the next machine.  I'm some 30+ days into linux.
[09:01] <mrdlouisd> there was something that i had to grab in order to get krdc to function properly, does anyone know off hand what it is?
[09:02] <shinobi> unix_infidel what are those advntages/disadvantages bertween gdm and kdm? i switched early to kubuntu after a day on ubuntul, and at that time switched to kdm, since then alwasy used kdm, but only based on the fact that it has a k and i have no gnome
[09:02] <unix_infidel> shinobi: i dont really care for either DE or DM
[09:02] <unix_infidel> i use fluxbox
[09:03] <unix_infidel> its a lightweight window manager, that is very flexible and functional.
[09:04] <shinobi> unix_infidel i looked at that, may even follow up at one point, though it's now four generations of kubuntu that i've run with kde and seems okay, any strong reason i should switch?
[09:04] <sstchur> how do I get the quick lanuch thing back that I just removed from my KDE Panel?
[09:04] <sonoftheclayr> hello guys, i hibernated my laptop last night and now my sound doesn't work, any ideas?
[09:04] <jager> fluxbox is great
[09:04] <jager> not as feature rich as kde but very very fast
[09:04] <mackyman> sstchur: right-click->add applet to panel
[09:04] <jager> and integrates weill with kde apps
[09:05] <jager> like taskbar icons work as expected
[09:05] <jager> something that can't be said about every wm
[09:05] <shinobi> jager don't use taskbar
[09:05] <unix_infidel> i personally just use a console login screen.
[09:05] <sstchur> mackyman: thanks
[09:05] <unix_infidel> and then use xinitrc to manage my wm start
[09:06] <jager> i like the task bar
[09:06] <mackyman> WooooooooO! I didn't know that savage had become free ^^
[09:06] <pollyo> unix_infidel: So what were some of those major differences between kdm and gdm?
[09:07] <shinobi> jager alt-tab+kompose or beryl made me stop task bar
[09:07] <unix_infidel> pollyo: for your purposes?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> the looks
[09:07] <Berto> in 7.04 is firefox 32-bit binary + flash 32-bit still the recommended way to get flash working on a 64-bit system?
[09:07] <shinobi> unix_infidel other than looks?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> one does not do anything better than the other.
[09:07] <unix_infidel> functionally they are the same.
[09:07] <jager> i use beryl, still like the task bar tho
[09:08] <pollyo> unix_infidel: For the general usage.  Someone just coming into using linux.  That would cover my purposes.
[09:08] <shinobi> unix_infidel though from your perspective they're both superfluous and suck
[09:08] <shinobi> jager kompose, nice when you can't use beryl
[09:08] <unix_infidel> shinobi: they are just a login mechanism
[09:08] <unix_infidel> i prefer console login as i can do much more in console quickly as i need to before i start my wm.
[09:08] <unix_infidel> and if i need X i just do it, with startx boom.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> within 2 seconds i have a full WW ready.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> WM
[09:10] <shinobi> unix_infidel ...i'm with you, but i like to have my kdm screen, wasteful as it is, a console first thing in the morning makes me reach for the coffee!
[09:10] <unix_infidel> shinobi: sitting in a public place and booting linux wont get you the ladies.
[09:10] <unix_infidel> that's a proven fact.
[09:10] <mackyman> unix_infidel: hahahaa
[09:11] <mackyman> No shit
[09:11] <shinobi> unix_infidel so if i wanted to go that way, would i just uninstall kdm and gdm?
[09:11] <unix_infidel> shinobi: or just change the initlevel you boot to.
[09:11] <unix_infidel> see: inittab
[09:12] <shinobi> mackyman unix_infidel: depends on your creativity with graphics- linux can boot more sexily than a osx or a win
[09:12] <shinobi> unix_infidel mackyman: pimp my linux boot
[09:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a version of emacs for the terminal?
[09:14] <mackyman> shinobi: Still, you can't get girls with computers, unless they are already into i deep
[09:15] <mackyman> shinobi: and then it's more sexy without login-manager
[09:15] <pollyo> mackyman: Would that be considered nakedlinux distro?
[09:16] <mackyman> pollyo: Never heard of... But sounds naugty =P
[09:16] <shinobi> mackyman true true...but i maintain that if it looks good enough to lick, then that's what'll happen...
[09:16] <mackyman> hehe
[09:16] <shinobi> mackyman if it looks good enough, you can convince someone who's never looked at a computer screen
[09:17] <mrdlouisd> anyone use krdc?
[09:18] <shinobi> unix_infidel sorry, where is my inittab in kubuntu?
[09:18] <mackyman> Woooo! I'm atlast getting hang of my OS =) Atlast I can do mostly of my stuff without googling around =)
[09:19] <shinobi> mackyman feels good huh, just wish the repos were not so slow
[09:19] <lenscape> !java
[09:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:19] <mackyman> shinobi: mm
[09:19] <dani> ndiswrapper didn't work either
[09:19] <mackyman> Hopefully there will be a game in the repos by me in ~5-6 years
[09:20] <pollyo> mackyman: What type of game you making?
[09:20] <mackyman> Dunno yet =P will start the education at the autumn
[09:20] <mackyman> A education sponserd by EA games to get forth more gameprogrammers
[09:20] <pollyo> mackyman: OK.  Best of luck.
[09:21] <mackyman> pollyo: Thx, I'll need it =P
[09:21] <dani> shinobi: using the free drivers for broadcom that came with kubuntu i can connect to internet using wired lan
[09:21] <dani> but click on enabl wireless it won't even enable
[09:22] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Have any ideas for a machine that only has 64 Meg of ram and a network card?
[09:22] <unix_infidel> pollyo: DSL
[09:22] <unix_infidel> damn small linux
[09:22] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Cable modem.
[09:22] <unix_infidel> its a debian based distribution like ubuntu
[09:22] <unix_infidel> google it.
[09:22] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Ok
[09:23] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I think I might have looked at it but they suggested 128Megs of ram.
[09:24] <unix_infidel> pollyo: it can be done with 64, trust me.
[09:24] <shinobi> dani, so how is that card running now? fwcutter?
[09:25] <shinobi> dani, or still have done nothing yet special for the card?
[09:26] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Ok. I'll give it a try.
[09:27] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Maybe I'll invest in a usbdrive and install it on that.
[09:27] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I suspsect I could mount the hard drive as my home drive for storage.
[09:27] <octet> dani: i got wifi using broadcom working using bcm43xx-fwcutter (WEP only)
[09:27] <unix_infidel> pollyo: most people run a thin client for low spec models like that.
[09:28] <pollyo> unix_infidel: A thin client?
[09:28] <pollyo> unix_infidel: Do you have a website you might suggest or just goodle thin client?
[09:40] <dognews> hi
[09:42] <dognews> i've got problems, updating edgy to feisty: I added this kde 356 thing and did the full upgrade in adept but it doesn't show any dist upgrade wizard
[09:44] <Pharsalus> Can I ask questions here about playing .avi's in Kubuntu? I'm having a few problems.
[09:45] <tmske> dognews: what does it say when you do in a terminal: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, you'll have to close adept first
[09:45] <g35> hello, is it easy to install kubuntu on ubuntu once ubuntu is installed?  and also is it easy to switch between the two
[09:45] <g35> or more specific is it easy to install kde on ubuntu
[09:45] <tmske> g35, you can simply install kde on ubuntu, and then you can chose when you start up what you want to run, kde or gnome
[09:45] <idontknow2> hello
[09:46] <Pharsalus> g35: I think it is. The command line is sudo apt-get install kde I think,
[09:46] <OleA> hi!  I'm installing kubuntu feisty, and I try to use the tool for manual partitioning. First I make a root pert, then swap, but when I try to use the rest of the disk to make a /home-part, I get theis message: "You can't have the end before the beginning"
[09:46] <hagabaka> werid
[09:46] <hagabaka> *weird
[09:46] <hagabaka> is kdebase not installed by default?
[09:47] <idontknow2> when i try and login an error comes up saying "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments 2: falling back to default session"
[09:47] <dognews> tmske: ok, that seems to work :) thank's for that :D
[09:47] <hagabaka> i am using KDE on kubuntu, but kdebase is not installed...
[09:47] <tmske> dognews: np
[09:47] <_what_if_> has anyone had problems with the kubuntu installer on nvidia 7800 ??
[09:47] <alesan^> re
[09:48] <alesan^> how can I add a repository from which I can download skype?
[09:49] <tmske> g35: or the package kubuntu-desktop should also work I think
[09:49] <idontknow2> any ideas, i am using kubuntu 7.04, kde, kdm
[09:49] <tmske> alesan^, you can add it through adept, or just in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <mornfall> ARGH
[09:49] <mornfall>  [09:39:50]  Irssi: 141 new messages in awaylog:
[09:50] <mornfall> i should disable the highlight on adept
[09:51] <alesan^> tmske, ok ... let me try. do you have perhaps a known good software repository?
[09:51] <mornfall> why i ever let out such a screwed bit of software, grm
[09:51] <shinobi> alesan^ i think i'm getting it from here: # Canonical Commercial packages,# GPG key: 437D05B5,deb http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial main
[09:52] <alesan^> shinobi, what if I'm using the new version?
[09:52] <shinobi> i changed edgy to feisty in that line on the machine i'm installing now, seems to be going okay
[09:52] <RawSewage> how do I configure it so when I click an audio file, it plays in amarok rather than getting queued
[09:52] <rdowning> hi, could someone help me with a problem I have with adept_manager ?
[09:53] <shinobi> RawSewage that's an amarok internal setting i think
[09:53] <tmske> alesan^:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[09:54] <RawSewage> shinobi, I couldnt find it
[09:54] <rdowning> when I hit the "fetch updates" button a file download dialogue appears to get the new meta-release file but I don't think it manages to download it successfully because I don't get offered a version upgrade
[09:54] <shinobi> alesan^ be warned though, skype is a so slow download for some reason, i've done a full multimedia upgrade on my base feisty and all the 100 other packages are already downloaded but skype is still chugging away
[09:55] <alesan^> shinobi, ok
[09:55] <pollyo> I think medibuntu has skpy in repos.
[09:55] <alesan^> anyway, do you know "PLF repository"?
[09:55] <pollyo> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[09:55] <alesan^> it seems it has interesting features like libdecss2, skype, win32 binary codecs
[09:56] <shinobi> RawSewage you're right, can't find it either
[09:56] <shinobi> alesan^ so does the canonical one, i use that plus medibuntu
[09:57] <tmske> RawSewage, you could ask it on #amarok
[09:57] <shinobi> # Medibuntu multimedia packages, # GPG key: 0C5A2783, deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free
[09:57] <alesan^> shinobi, ok so I'll add canonical and medibuntu in my adept?
[09:57] <RawSewage> tmske, I did.  no answer
[09:58] <shinobi> alesan^ sure, or just paste them into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <shinobi> alesan^ don't forget to add the gpg keys too
[09:58] <shinobi> alesan^ someone will probably tell me to warn you about adding repositories actually...
[09:58] <tmske> RawSewage: maybe in #kde
[09:59] <dug> anyone having any luck with krdc, after moving to the fiesty fawn i cannot get it to work
[09:59] <alesan^> wait I'll connect from the kubuntu laptop :)
[09:59] <RawSewage> tmske, ok
[09:59] <pollyo> shinobi: What was that other site?  conanical?  Do they have a website also?
[09:59] <shinobi> canonical? i think that is the company that makes ubuntu
[10:00] <rdowning> anyone able to help with an upgrade question?
[10:00] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: not sure but ask!
[10:00] <rdowning> when I hit the "fetch updates" button a file download dialogue appears to get the new meta-release file but I don't think it manages to download it successfully because I don't get offered a version upgrade
[10:00] <RawSewage> Apparently you need to stop currently playing files first
[10:01] <rdowning> I am behind a web proxy if thats important
[10:01] <shinobi> pollyo look up canonical on google, i thinki tis the ubuntu mother company, that is there commercial app repo, that can't be included in base distro for some kind of reasons
[10:01] <monika__> re
[10:01] <pollyo> shinobi: ok
[10:01] <monika__> I'm alesan from my gf's computer :)
[10:01] <monika__> shinobi, could you please, repaste the canonical and medibuntu server things again for me?
[10:02] <shinobi> monika__ sure
[10:02] <shinobi> hold on
[10:02] <tinyx> hey
[10:02] <tmske> RawSewage: then you can write a script that first stops the playback and then plays the file and say that it must be executed when clicking a music file
[10:02] <shinobi> # Medibuntu multimedia packages # GPG key: 0C5A2783 deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free # Canonical Commercial packages # GPG key: 437D05B5 deb http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial main
[10:02] <tinyx> How can I install Windows fonts?
[10:03] <tinyx> Somebody told me.. and I forgot
[10:03] <RawSewage> tmske, yeah
[10:03] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: any thoughts on what I could try?
[10:04] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: Wow...I really not sure about the proxy. you said " I don't think it manages to download it" so the SW doesn't do anything...
[10:04] <shinobi> tinyx msttcorefonts
[10:04] <tinyx> thank you
[10:05] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: thats right. And its a random temporary file each time so I can't trick it with a manual download
[10:05] <tinyx> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:05] <tinyx>   msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
[10:05] <tmske> RawSewage: changing the commando to open with amarok to: amarok -s && amarok  should work I think
[10:05] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: I'll try with the GNOME update-manager
[10:06] <RawSewage> tmske, ok I'll try that
[10:06] <shinobi> tinyx repositories?
[10:06] <monika__> what is the file repositories are written to?
[10:06] <RawSewage> tmske, cool. that works
[10:06] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: have you tried to "sudo apt-get update" before doing anything
[10:06] <RawSewage> tmske, ty
[10:07] <tinyx> ?
[10:07] <shinobi> monika__ /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <monika__> indeed
[10:07] <shinobi> monika__ you know how to do the gpg keys?
[10:07] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: yes that bit works fine, just tried the GNOME one and that doesn't seem to pick up the new release either
[10:07] <tmske> RawSewage: np
[10:07] <Pharsalus> In mplayer playing .avi files from CD I get "Error! Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound" I have checked documentation and found no help. Anyone here able to assist?
[10:08] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: ah! GNOME one has got it.......
[10:08] <shinobi> tinyx see what i pasted for monika / alesan^
[10:08] <pollyo> shinobi: How many items are on that canonical?  Two?
[10:08] <shinobi> pollyo items? you mean packages?
[10:08] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: The Gnometool works and Kde's doesn't...man don't say that to loud here ;-)
[10:08] <pollyo> shinobi: Yes.
[10:08] <monika__> shinobi, I have no idea
[10:09] <shinobi> pollyo i don't really know, maybe not many i guess
[10:09] <tinyx> yes, should I add something to the sources.list?
[10:09] <pollyo> shinobi: I'm showing archive.canonical.com/main and only two items under origin (from synaptic)  Guessing I added it right.
[10:09] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: yeah too right, hope it is an easy fix for someone!
[10:09] <shinobi> monika__ # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[10:10] <monika__> shinobi, what is the gpg key about?
[10:10] <shinobi> monika__ you use those two lines in konsole, replacing KEY with the number in the links i gave you
[10:10] <monika__> to make sure the packages are from a trusted source?
[10:10] <shinobi> monika__ yes exactly
[10:11] <shinobi> pollyo okay, i wonder what they are and if they are available in the medibuntu one too
[10:11] <tinyx> shinobi: should I add something to the sources.list?
[10:11] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: you are using the "official" update tool. right? Makes me winder that it doesn work 4 you. Cause i hadn't had any problem with my ugrade to feisty...
[10:11] <pollyo> shinobi: opera and ralplay
[10:11] <pollyo> shinobi: I do not think I have the pgp key in place.  Would that change what would be listed?
[10:11] <tmske> Pharsalus: are you able to play other files?
[10:11] <shinobi> tinyx yes, you need the repositories i pasted above to get the things like ms fonts
[10:11] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: yes kosher all the way, only installed edgy a month ago and have not got any dodgy repos in there
[10:11] <pollyo> shinobi: Or simlpy let me know they are not under trusted.
[10:12] <shinobi> pollyo i don't think so, it will just warn you that they are not trusted
[10:12] <pollyo> shinobi: Ok
[10:12] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[10:12] <shinobi> pollyo but it makes sense that it is opera and realplay only
[10:12] <pollyo> shinobi: I do not see opera on medibuntu
[10:13] <tinyx> this..
[10:13] <tinyx> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[10:13] <tinyx> ?
[10:13] <shinobi> pollyo tinyx monika__ skype is coming from medibuntu then i guess, so the canonical repo is only useful for realplay or opera
[10:13] <Atombombe2000> rdowning: hmm strange. But you know I am not an expert so...(maybe I should have warned you)
[10:13] <s0undt3ch> I'm trying to install feisty, but I need to access net through my lan(static ips), however I keep getting device not ready
[10:14] <shinobi> tinyx that is just for adding the gpg security key
[10:14] <rdowning> Atombombe2000: thats ok, me neither! anyway its working so I'm happy, thanks anyway :)
[10:14] <tinyx> So what should I put in the sources?
[10:14] <unix_infidel> man i hope they come out with some cheap 1GB pc333 modules.
[10:14] <unix_infidel> i need em :P
[10:14] <rdowning> good ole JANET in the UK: 4.8M per second
[10:14] <s0undt3ch> I can't use the UI because I'm on a laptop with an ati x1400(no supported)
[10:14] <shinobi> pollyo that makes sense, and in fact, i use operas repository for that, so i guess i can get rid of the canonical repo cause i don't use real play
[10:15] <g35> hello, if i have a windows ntfs partition taking over my whole hard drivea already, is it possible to install ubuntu on that same hard drive by allocating the free space of the NTFS parition to a new partition for ubuntu, while still keeping windows intact??
[10:15] <s0undt3ch> so, basicly I need to setup my lan access by hand, any help from you guys?
[10:15] <g35> i meant kubuntu
[10:16] <shinobi> tinyx # Medibuntu multimedia packages # GPG key: 0C5A2783 deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[10:16] <s0undt3ch> g35: resize the ntfs partition and then yes
[10:16] <rdowning> g35: the installer should offer that as an option yes
[10:16] <s0undt3ch> g35: be aware that it's a risky operation
[10:16] <shinobi> tiny x change edgy to feisty if appropriate
[10:16] <g35> s0undt3ch: so it is possible to resize an NTFS partition with windows on it then allocate the resized space to a fat32 partition?
[10:16] <pollyo> BBL
[10:17] <g35> while still maintaining the windows OS?
[10:17] <rdowning> g35: why fat32?
[10:17] <shinobi> tiny x, that is three lines by the way,
[10:17] <s0undt3ch> why to you want a fat 32?
[10:17] <g35> well anythign that supports kubuntu
[10:17] <rdowning> g35: ext3, its all automated by the installer
[10:17] <shinobi> tiny x, at the '#' and before 'deb'
[10:17] <g35> thanks
[10:17] <g35> ill give it a shot
[10:17] <tinyx> okay =] ] 
[10:17] <g35> and hope gparted hels me :-D
[10:17] <rdowning> g35: good luck :)
[10:19] <CarinArr> out of interest, if i've been running the feisty beta, is there anything in eed to do other than updating packages to be using the release version so to speak
[10:19] <s0undt3ch> so any help from you guys on how to setup net within the live cd? .... from shell, no access to KDE
[10:19] <martinjh99> Has anyone else had the problem where amarok will ask wether you want mp3 support and then stop responding?  When I click on Install nothing happens...
[10:19] <ranjan> martinjh99: it has to me
[10:20] <shinobi> martinjh99 someone mentioned it earlier, have you tried to install the w32codecs
[10:20] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: wireless?
[10:20] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: no, wired
[10:20] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: dhcp or static?
[10:20] <ranjan> martinjh99: this is what i did
[10:20] <martinjh99> Nope just libxine1-ffmpeg as per the Restricted formats wiki page...
[10:20] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: static
[10:20] <ranjan> martinjh99: 1. purge current amarok installation
[10:21] <tmske> g35: if you do that, make sure you backup all important files, resizing a partition is risky
[10:21] <s0undt3ch> the cable is connected, but it just seems it doesn't respond, I've teaked /etc/network/interfaces, yet nothing
[10:21] <martinjh99> ranjan> Remove it?
[10:21] <ranjan> martinjh99: compeletely remove it
[10:22] <ranjan> 2. go to /home/your username/.kde/apps
[10:22] <ranjan> 3. delete amarok folder
[10:22] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: this is a LG laptop
[10:22] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: does ifconfig show it as having any address associated with it?
[10:22] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: yes
[10:22] <martinjh99> ranjan> Done that - Reinstall Amarok?
[10:23] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: the right address?
[10:23] <s0undt3ch> a few hours ago, it also didn't got an address from company dhcp
[10:23] <ranjan> no go to /home/ranjan/.kde/share/apps
[10:23] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: yes :)
[10:23] <ranjan> ranjan is my username
[10:23] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: home lan 10.1.0.
[10:23] <ranjan> replace it with urs
[10:23] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: okay.. try sudo ifdown eth0 (or whatever the interface name is)
[10:23] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: gateway 10.1.0.1
[10:23] <martinjh99> Ranjan> Deleted the .kde/share/apps/amarok folder
[10:23] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: k
[10:23] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: then sudo ifup eth0
[10:23] <ranjan> ok
[10:24] <phoenix_G> hello i installed kubuntu feisty and my usb adapter does not work. what i have to do to make it work ? the usb adapter has a atheros chpset
[10:24] <ranjan> now install the following packages
[10:24] <ranjan> martinjh99: hangon...
[10:24] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: interface not configured
[10:24] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: you need to use ndiswrapper
[10:24] <shinobi> ranjan martinjh99 that should work, i had to do that a month back too (there was a website article)
[10:24] <Atombombe2000> HeY! Gotta question...*knetworkmanager* doesn't work here on feisty as it worked in dapper/edgy....None of my wificards rtl8180/WG511v2 can connect to wifi-NW. I m wondering why? (In wlassistent does work) I don't know where to look for any kind of error-logs!
[10:24] <phoenix_G> is there a "how to" ? or forums ?
[10:25] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: why!? if config shows it
[10:25] <monika__> ok thank you very much shinobi and all the others :)
[10:25] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: probably but it's very easy
[10:25] <martinjh99> shinobi> Can you remember where the website article was/is??
[10:25] <monika__> bye
[10:25] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: do you have a windows driver for it?
[10:25] <shinobi> Atombombe2000 /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:25] <phoenix_G> yes
[10:25] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: well it could be because it's the live cd
[10:25] <shinobi> martinjh99 , i think ranjan is giving you the right steps
[10:25] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: you need the *.inf and *.sys file from the windows driver
[10:26] <Atombombe2000> shinobi: well no problem there...I ve checked /etc/netw...
[10:26] <shinobi> monika__ all skyped up?
[10:26] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: man, that's really bad, because I can't even run the live cd at full because my video driver is not supported :\
[10:26] <ranjan> martin: reinstall from this repository http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[10:26] <phoenix_G> i must install the drivers with ndiswrapper ? ndiswrapper -i *.inf ?
[10:26] <shinobi> Atombombe2000 is it empty except lo?
[10:26] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: yes
[10:26] <phoenix_G> and *.sys
[10:26] <phoenix_G> ok thanks
[10:26] <dystopianray> phoenix_G: you will need to install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils
[10:26] <ranjan> martinjh99: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:26] <Atombombe2000> shinobi: yes, I haven't changed it since dapper.
[10:27] <martinjh99> Cheers Ranjan - Needs to be added to the restricted formats page...
[10:27] <shinobi> Atombombe2000 i'm about to try it with my feisty install and broadcom, hold on
[10:28] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: can you tell me what your inet addr: your Bcast: and your Mask: say when you do ifconfig
[10:28] <ranjan> martinjh99: cool
[10:28] <Atombombe2000> shinobi: well i'd knew how to find error logs for knetwM. I'd be happy
[10:29] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: in interfaces -> auto eth0 | iface et0 inet static | 10.1.0.33
[10:29] <s0undt3ch> ...
[10:29] <s0undt3ch> netmask 255.255.255.0 | gateway 10.1.0.1
[10:30] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: from ifconfig -> inet addr: 10.1.0.33 | BCast: 10.1.0.255 | Mask: 255.255.255.0
[10:30] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: and if you do ping 10.1.0.1?
[10:31] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: not reacheable
[10:31] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: try sudo route add default gw 10.1.0.1
[10:31] <OleA> Does anyone know if Feisty (release) fix the problem with the jMicron PATA controller on Intel DP965 motherboards?
[10:32] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: file exists
[10:32] <CarinArr> that's really odd
[10:32] <s0undt3ch> yeah
[10:32] <dystopianray> OleA: it doesn't, it's mentioned in the release notes
[10:32] <OleA> :(
[10:33] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: all I can do is try another cable, but from the win partition, running win it works :\
[10:33] <tinyx>  GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[10:33] <tinyx> sorry it took so long
[10:34] <shinobi> tinyx you need to add the gpg keys
[10:34] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: anyway I can tell feisty to install from cli? ie some text mode? matbe then I can fix this stuff?
[10:34] <s0undt3ch> s/I can/can I/
[10:34] <tinyx> How do I get those?
[10:34] <shinobi> tinyx using the lines i pasted earlier in konsole relacing KEY with the number
[10:35] <ranjan> tinyx: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:35] <shinobi> tinyx ranjan's way is easier
[10:35] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: try using the alternate install cd
[10:36] <CarinArr> s0undt3ch: it's a straight install cd, without the live malarkey
[10:36] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: heh, one more dl :) but will do
[10:37] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: I already DL'ed both kubuntu and ubuntu feisty :)
[10:38] <tinyx> Do i do that in the terminal?
[10:38] <tinyx> Like
[10:38] <tinyx> wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O-
[10:38] <tinyx> and then
[10:38] <tinyx> the other?
[10:38] <s0undt3ch> tinyx: no that's a single line
[10:38] <shinobi> tinyx just the whole thing in terminal
[10:38] <ranjan> tinyx: sudo apt-key add -
[10:38] <shinobi> tinyx the | allows two commands in one line
[10:38] <tinyx> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[10:39] <ranjan> tinyx:  copy the whole line and paste in konsole
[10:39] <ranjan> wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:40] <Ash-Fox> Somebody recommend me a GUI frontend to configuring iptables remotely for a server?
[10:40] <tinyx> It said OK
[10:40] <ranjan> now sudo apt-get update
[10:41] <shinobi> tinyx ranjan 'It said OK' - should be okay then !
[10:41] <tinyx> ok its updating
[10:41] <ranjan> tinyx:  sudo apt-get update
[10:41] <tinyx> I'm sorry, I'm a noob(?)
[10:42] <s0undt3ch> tinyx: everyone was at some point, some still are :)
[10:42] <ranjan> tinyx: no worries
[10:42] <tinyx> okay it is finished updating
[10:43] <ranjan> tinyx: cool now install needed packages
[10:44] <tinyx> It's still saying
[10:44] <tinyx> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:44] <tinyx>   msttcorefonts: Depends: cabextract (>= 0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
[10:44] <mntpng> anyone have a url for kubuntu dvd iso torrent?
[10:44] <ranjan> tinyx: post your sources.list
[10:45] <ranjan> !past | tinyx
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <shinobi> tinyx what are you using to do this - adept?
[10:45] <noiesmo> tinyx, use aptitude instead of apt-get it will offer a resolution to dependency problems ie sudo aptitude install packagename
[10:45] <ranjan> !paste | tinyx
[10:45] <tinyx> Konsole
[10:45] <ubotu> tinyx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <tinyx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16517/
[10:46] <danforth> hello
[10:47] <shinobi> tinyx no medibuntu?
[10:47] <danforth> I have a question about feisty fawn
[10:47] <phoenix_G> for windows drivers about the usb adapter .. i must install all *.sys and *.inf with ndiswrapper ?
[10:47] <ranjan> tinyx: what packages are u trying to install
[10:47] <tinyx> the fonts
[10:47] <tdn> After installing a Kubuntu 7.04 from the CD last night. I watched a video in kaffeine. The video was an .avi-file in xvid/mp3. When I closed kaffeine it crashed. I have stack trace here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=502. Can anyone please check if this is something that should be reported?
[10:48] <xavito> guys, I'm not so happy with kubuntu... There are LOTS of broken applications like Ark and others, and when I try to install mp3 support from amarok, it freazes allways... And some other things are slower than windows... What about you guys ?
[10:48] <shinobi> ranjan tinyx medibuntu
[10:48] <tinyx> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:48] <ranjan> tinyx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16518/
[10:48] <danforth> (xavito) tell me about your machine
[10:48] <dhq> fdoving: i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help
[10:49] <ranjan> tinyx: use that -- commented out feisty repo.... update before installing
[10:49] <danforth> I installed feisty today and everything works amazingly except I can't find where my trash bin went
[10:50] <xavito> danforth: It's a Toshiba Sattelite M30X (laptop) normal one core centrino with Pentium M and 768 MB of ram, never had problems with any other distribuition and feisty fawn is the only one that makes my harddrive show as SCSI while it's not...
[10:52] <athena> can some help me please i'm unable to playback video
[10:52] <dhq>  i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help
[10:53] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[10:53] <dhq> crazy_penguin: hey
[10:53] <crazy_penguin> hi dhq
[10:53] <tinyx> Does anybody know what the standard font is for firefox on windows?
[10:53] <dhq> crazy_penguin:  i upgraded to fiesty long back yesterday i installed ubuntu studio now none of my player like amarock mplayer kaffiene work i cant play file nothing please help
[10:53] <athena> can some help me please i'm unable to playback video Please HELP!!!
[10:53] <crazy_penguin> well i pass sorry
[10:54] <crazy_penguin> i can't even imagine what happened
[10:54] <noiesmo> athena, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php
[10:54] <tinyx> also, I used to download fonts from a website and put them in the font folder in windows.. how do I install fonts on kubuntu?
[10:54] <crazy_penguin> it's possibile that some common library has been destroyed
[10:54] <danikhan> whats the default kernel for kubuntu/ubuntu 7.04
[10:55] <xavito> tinyx: same as here...
[10:55] <dhq> danikhan: 2.6.20 i guess
[10:55] <danikhan> kt hx
[10:55] <Atombombe2000> danikhan: 2.6.20-15-generic
[10:55] <tinyx> Can I use the same fonts that I download for Windows?
[10:55] <Mena> Is Fiesty Stable is out ?
[10:55] <shinobi> xavito tinyx yes you can
[10:56] <tinyx> How do I install them? With windows I just drag and drop them into the fonts folder
[10:56] <ranjan> tinyx: there is a font installer in system settings
[10:56] <Atombombe2000> Mena: Yes
[10:56] <Mena> ok thanks
[10:56] <shinobi> alt+F2 type kcontrol, selct administration tab, then you will see font installer
[10:56] <Atombombe2000> Mena: Since yesterday ;-)
[10:56] <Mena> Atombombe2000, ok :)
[10:57] <dhq> crazy_penguin: how can i fix it
[10:57] <tinyx> whats the default font for firefox on windows?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> tinyx: that would be better asked in ##windows
[10:59] <phoenix_G> athfmwdl : driver installed
[10:59] <phoenix_G> athfmwdl.sys : invalid driver!
[10:59] <phoenix_G> netwg11t : driver installed
[10:59] <arunkale> tinyx: you can just drag and drop fonts in /home/user/.fonts
[10:59] <arunkale> or usr/share/fonts/
[10:59] <phoenix_G> sys file are not installed :(
[10:59] <arunkale> they get installed automatically
[10:59] <noiesmo> dhq,  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[10:59] <dhq> noiesmo: wazz tha
[10:59] <Mena> Atombombe2000, Thanks Bye
[11:00] <dhq> noiesmo: Service Temporarily Unavailable
[11:00] <phoenix_G> how can i install the *.sys files
[11:00] <phoenix_G> installing athfmwdl.sys ...
[11:00] <phoenix_G> couldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete
[11:00] <ubuntu> hi
[11:00] <ubuntu> hi
[11:00] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: have you tried knetworkmanager?
[11:00] <phoenix_G> help : |
[11:00] <arunkale> Man, I have had this feisty upgrade on for the last 6 hours
[11:00] <arunkale> it's still only at 48%
[11:00] <seyit> merhaba
[11:00] <tinyx> well thanks for the assistance guys =] ] 
[11:01] <shinobi> Kosmonaut sure
[11:01] <noiesmo> dhq, works for me its medibuntu site were repository for packages for codecs etc
[11:01] <shinobi> Kosmonaut that's what i use
[11:01] <shinobi> Kosmonaut seems to be installed as default in feisty
[11:01] <noiesmo> dhq, yep down for me to now
[11:02] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: I changed my name from atombombe to kosmonaut....I was asking where to find error logs, remember? ;-)
[11:02] <arunkale> What's Kosmonaut
[11:02] <tdn> Kaffeine crashes. What's wrong: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P502.html
[11:02] <shinobi> Kosmonaut sure okay yeah
[11:02] <shinobi> Kosmonaut just about to get it going
[11:02] <Kosmonaut> As I said before: knetworkmanager doesn t work here anymore, and i m wondering why
[11:03] <Kosmonaut> it worked with dapper/edgy but not in fesity
[11:03] <Kosmonaut> Well it does work but no wifi connection can be established
[11:03] <dhq> Kosmonaut: mine works
[11:03] <dhq> Kosmonaut: i am on a wifi connection
[11:04] <Kosmonaut> dhq: the u r lucky
[11:04] <dhq> Kosmonaut: try wireless assistant its also good
[11:05] <Kosmonaut> it doesn t connect eith a rtl8180 nor with a netgear wg511. Wlassistent does work thou
[11:05] <shinobi> Kosmonaut  dhq mine had worked now with broadcom and ndiswrapper on a clean feisty
[11:05] <Kosmonaut> (sorry for my english)
[11:06] <dhq> Kosmonaut: is your drivers properly working
[11:06] <Kosmonaut> Yes! With wlanssistant everything works fine
[11:07] <Kosmonaut> just knetworkmanager doesn't
[11:07] <dhq> Kosmonaut: well ok
[11:08] <shinobi> Kosmonauti still suspect that it is because wlanassistant works that knetwok manager does not
[11:08] <shinobi> Kosmonaut there is some different config files for each that conflict
[11:09] <Kosmonaut> shinobi:  exactly!
[11:09] <shinobi> Kosmonaut wlanassstant uses same config as system setting network setting
[11:09] <pdroy> Hi all
[11:09] <shinobi> Kosmonaut knetwork manager has it's own
[11:09] <pdroy> So how many of you have shifted to Fiesty here
[11:09] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: what makes it hard to analyse is the fact that KNM doesn t have a logfile
[11:10] <shinobi> Kosmonaut to be honest, i couldn't ever find anything for knetwork manager
[11:10] <shinobi> i just had to blank all the setting for system settings: network settings
[11:11] <shinobi> Kosmonaut and make sure i didn't check 'load on startup' option in there
[11:11] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: that what I did since dapper
[11:11] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: why not?
[11:13] <shampoontor> good morning.. can you lead me to a howto or something that tels me howto install acroread (on feisty)
[11:13] <athena> can some help me please i'm unable to playback video and MP3 Please HELP!!! Last link did not help
[11:14] <shampoontor> couln find something propper with google
[11:14] <animimotus> tain, 3me CD foir pour Feisty
[11:14] <Kosmonaut> athena: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:15] <shinobi> Kosmonaut it rewrites config and interferes with knetworkmanager
[11:15] <shinobi> athena use easyubuntu?
[11:16] <Kosmonaut> shinobi: ah...I see
[11:16] <shinobi> i just made my own list of relevant packages, added the repositories and did and apt-get install of those packages
[11:17] <phoenix_G> how can i add a network interface ?
[11:17] <shinobi> athena in fact i've just done it five minutes ago, i ave the file available
[11:17] <shampoontor> no idea :) ? a list of extra deb sources things would be fine too i guess
[11:19] <phoenix_G> how can i add a network interface ? ? ?
[11:20] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: alternat install says it can't find any network card :\
[11:21] <shinobi> athena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525/
[11:21] <athena> Sorry kozmanute konversation crashed can you please resnd
[11:21] <s0undt3ch> isn't feisty suposed to support the agere gigabit card!?
[11:21] <shinobi> athena you need the repository medibuntu and also the gpg keys. note that my list has other apps i install at new install that you may remove
[11:22] <athena> shinobi
[11:23] <athena> its asking me for a password the one i have does not work ehat do i do?
[11:23] <athena> its asking me for a password the one i have does not work what do i do?
[11:23] <shinobi> athena
[11:23] <shinobi> athena that is your usual password that you created for login
[11:23] <athena> does not work
[11:24] <athena> i'll try again
[11:24] <athena> no good... feel like crying
[11:25] <rolando> hi
[11:25] <shinobi> athena there is really only that password unless something is very strange
[11:25] <rolando> how do i launch the kubuntu upgrade tool_
[11:25] <rolando> ?
[11:25] <athena> hold on let me try somthing else
[11:25] <shinobi> athena jut to test it, hit alt+F2 and type kdesu kate
[11:26] <shinobi> then see if the password works in that prompt
[11:26] <neonlinux> hey all... just installed feisty and want to know about 4 of the services running on boot
[11:26] <Narada> hi; i'm trying to upgrade using http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading but adept offers only a grey button for the upgrade; i can't click it
[11:26] <athena> su: Authentication failure
[11:26] <athena> Sorry.
[11:26] <neonlinux> anyone know what rsync rmnologin hplip and kdeguida$ do?
[11:27] <rolando> Narada: you know how to launch the upgrade tool_
[11:27] <Narada> rolando: i just followed the instructions for kubuntu
[11:27] <athena> no good
[11:27] <rolando> neonlinux: i think google would help there
[11:27] <Narada> rolando: but adept did not allow me to ugprade
[11:27] <shinobi> athena maybe it's kind of locked up on sudo, that happens. you may need to reboot, though maybe someone has better suggestion of why your sudo access is strange
[11:28] <rolando> Narada: adept tells me to launch the kubuntu upgrade tool
[11:28] <neonlinux> rolando: ok... i was just thinkin feisty might be too new for that :).. ill do that now thanks :)
[11:28] <Narada> rolando: not for me; i'm stuck
[11:28] <athena> ok i try a reboot back in a few moments
[11:29] <rolando> Narada: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <Narada> rolando: already did that; it got edgy updates i presume
[11:30] <reldruh> hello. I have a music collection on a server that I'd like to use as my amarok collection even when I'm not on the local network. I usually have a fast enough connection that bandwith shouldn't be an issue but amarok seems to require local files to be used in a collection. Does anybody have any ideas?
[11:31] <rolando> then i dont know Narada
[11:31] <shinobi> reldruh mount the share locally?
[11:31] <neonlinux> ok, sofar everything is tellign me how to start rsync on boot.. nothing is really telling me why its running
[11:31] <reldruh> shinobi: will that work when I'm not connected to my local network?
[11:32] <shogouki> hi
[11:32] <shinobi> reldruh not unless you can access the files somehow i use openvpn
[11:33] <athena> still no good guy's
[11:33] <reldruh> shinobi: how does that work? I've never used a vpn before
[11:33] <shinobi> athena no sudo?
[11:33] <shogouki> i cant find any kubuntu 7.04 cd torrents, any url ?
[11:33] <neonlinux> hplip is only if i have a hp printer right?
[11:33] <athena> is i type su and then the password it says authentication failed
[11:33] <shinobi> reldruh sorry, it's a big thing, you would have to look up openvpn, there are many tutorials
[11:34] <rolando> yes
[11:34] <reldruh> shinobi: all right, I'll look into it. thanks
[11:34] <shinobi> athena are you sure nothings up wih your input?
[11:34] <athena> which input
[11:34] <shinobi> athena text input
[11:35] <shinobi> athena caps lock/num lock, something tha would mean the password was not okay
[11:35] <Narada> rolando: never mind it's working now
[11:35] <athena> tried both still no good
[11:35] <rolando> how did you do it?
[11:35] <athena> will try another reboot
[11:36] <CVirus> What happens if I stop the updater during the download process ?
[11:37] <banym> hi
[11:37] <gnomefreak> CVirus: during download not much of anything
[11:37] <banym> exists a meta package for update kubuntu to a higher release ?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> CVirus: during install could cause problems
[11:38] <CVirus> gnomefreak: okay thanks
[11:38] <Cem_UNAL> i am using one connection for internet; is konnect manager nessery ?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> just restart the downloading
[11:38] <Cem_UNAL> i want ot cancel it
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Cem_UNAL: disable it and see if you still have connection
[11:39] <Cem_UNAL> gnomefreak: tx
[11:39] <gnomefreak> if yes that it should be fine. if you lose it than you need it
[11:39] <athena> still no good
[11:39] <athena> should i re-install????
[11:39] <shinobi> athena uh not yet
[11:40] <gnomefreak> athena: does sudo not work?
[11:40] <athena> let me check
[11:40] <Cem_UNAL> new kubuntu (7.04 ) is very good tx of developer :)
[11:40] <Cem_UNAL> *for
[11:40] <athena> if i type sudo i get
[11:40] <athena> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[11:40] <athena> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[11:40] <athena>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[11:40] <gnomefreak> athena: sudo -i
[11:41] <athena> yes it worked
[11:41] <athena> what next i lost the web pages sent to me earlier
[11:41] <gnomefreak> for?
[11:41] <Mena> Hi
[11:42] <gnomefreak> !hi | Mena
[11:42] <ubotu> Mena: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:42] <_4strO> :p
 athena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525/
[11:42] <athena> thanks
[11:43] <Mena> On Xp a program told me i have 64 processor so what i have to choose when downloading kubuntu
[11:43] <neonlinux> ok.. do i need rmnologin?
[11:43] <neonlinux> i turned of hplip and rsync
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Mena: you can either use the 64bit version or 32 bit version. if you use flash and other non free codecs you will want 32bit
[11:44] <athena> -bash: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse: command not found
[11:44] <athena> or do i copt the top line?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> athena: sudo apt-get install gs....
[11:44] <_4strO> :p
[11:44] <_4strO> athena: it's your first day on linux ?
[11:44] <Mena> gnomefreak, ok so i gues i will use 32
[11:45] <shinobi> athena the whole thing starting with sudo
[11:45] <athena> sudo: apt: command not found
[11:45] <shinobi> Mena I still do
[11:45] <athena> this is the message i get
[11:45] <gnomefreak> athena: sudo apt-get
[11:45] <Mena> shinobi, ok
[11:45] <gnomefreak> install
[11:45] <shinobi> athena should read sudo apt-get install g.....
[11:46] <gnomefreak> athena: maybe adept will be easier for you to use?
[11:46] <Mena> gnomefreak, is there a way to know what is the closestserver to my contry to download from
[11:46] <Mena> country*
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Mena: where are you?
[11:46] <athena> how do i do that?
[11:47] <Mena> Egypt,Cairo
[11:47] <shinobi> athena sorry, there was a extra space in there after the apt-
[11:47] <shinobi> it should work
[11:47] <shinobi> the synaptic way or adept way is painful for this type of large intall
[11:47] <gnomefreak> thats a good question. maybe try without a country code (should give you closest working mirror)
[11:47] <CVirus> Mena: I'm from Cairo too :-)
[11:47] <shinobi> there is no easy media codec package for synapric or adept i know of
[11:48] <Mena> CVirus, ok
[11:48] <CVirus> Mena: how about you join #EgLUG then ?
[11:48] <Mena> CVirus, ok
[11:49] <shinobi> athena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528/
[11:51] <lzap> hello, how to upgrade from a mirror? I mean, I wonder to click on update in update-manager, its so slow and I wonder if it will use the main archive (which is currently under high load)
[11:54] <athena> i'll try runing a vid now see what happens
[11:54] <athena> thanks for all you help..
[11:55] <what_if> in system settings I cannot get monitor and display to work
[11:56] <tommy_> whats this: /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off, help me!
[11:57] <what_if> tommy_: the permissions of the user running the script
[11:57] <tommy_> sorry?
[11:58] <tommy_> it comes up when im about 2mins into installing 7.04
[11:58] <what_if> tommy_: hmmm. may want to check the cd for defects
[11:59] <tommy_> i've checked the CD, and the md5 sum and burnt at a low speed
[11:59] <_4strO> tommy_: ??? dont understand your pb
[11:59] <what_if> the I do not know, unless you have an odd piece of hardware
[12:00] <_4strO> what are trying to do ?
[12:00] <what_if> *then
[12:00] <tommy_> there are also dozens of forums with people having exactally the same problem as me, i was wondering if anyone here could shed some light on the issue for me
[12:01] <tommy_> im  trying to install 7.04
[12:02] <_4strO> tommy_: you boot on the CD, did you arrived on the Desktop ?
[12:02] <tommy_> about two mins into installing 7.04 (feisty) this error comes up : Busy Box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
[12:02] <tommy_> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[12:02] <tommy_> /bin/sh: can't access tty: Job control turned off
[12:02] <tommy_> (initramfs)
[12:02] <tommy_> never can make it to the desktop
[12:03] <denis__> Bonjour ici :)
[12:03] <_4strO> ok so you're not installing the system, booting on the liveCD is wrong
[12:04] <Doon> oups it's english speaking here ^
[12:04] <tommy_> maybe.........
[12:04] <_4strO> (sorry 4 my uggly english)
[12:04] <_4strO> !fr > Doon
[12:04] <Doon> I have a little problem with apt, could someone help me ?
[12:04] <tommy_> everything is wrong. I click install then it starts loading then i get that error
[12:05] <_4strO> haaaaaa
[12:05] <Doon> !fr
[12:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:07] <_4strO> tommy_: can you open a konsole and type uname -a ?
[12:08] <tommy_> Linux tommy-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux, that came up
[12:08] <_4strO> ok
[12:08] <_4strO> tommy_: whenn did you dowload the iso ?
[12:09] <tommy_> today
[12:09] <_4strO> mm
[12:09] <tommy_> ive been told its a "bug"
[12:09] <_4strO> yep i saw on anotherr chan ;)
[12:10] <_4strO> but it look like the bug i had few days ago
[12:10] <ubuntu> Whats up everybody
[12:10] <Aarin> ppl i need some help. when i try to install feisty fawn he doesn't recognise the disk controller for my Seagate ST380011A
[12:10] <_4strO> but it was a bad kernel, and then fiw by put another kernel
[12:11] <tommy_> but i downloaded direct from ubuntu servers.
[12:12] <Aarin> and asks which one is from a list he gives (only one option can be chosed)
[12:12] <baskitcaise> tommy what hardware u got? drives etc and layout
[12:13] <_4strO> baskitcaise: is it normal to have 2.6.17-10-generic on the install CD ?
[12:13] <Aarin> if it is edgy eft yes
[12:13] <tommy_> how do i check what hardware i got in ubuntu, i have a program i use for that in windows.
[12:14] <baskitcaise> it is the drives I am thinking of tommy, it looks like the install cannot find the cd/dvd
[12:14] <baskitcaise> or it is having a prob finding your hard drives
[12:15] <tommy_> people on forums have been saying similar things, only they give no solutions
[12:15] <Aarin> anyone plz help me
[12:15] <nicolai_> tommy kinfocenter might help
[12:16] <tommy_> i dont have that program
[12:17] <Aarin> edgy has no problem with detecting my hard drives (i'm in it now) feisty doesnt recognise my ATA disk. a ST380011A
[12:17] <nicolai_> are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[12:17] <tommy_> ubuntu at the moment
[12:17] <nicolai_> hmm
[12:18] <nicolai_> I don't use Gnome, so i do not know the equivalent
[12:18] <tommy_> im on the #ubuntu as well but there too many people there so i came here
[12:18] <james> Anyone care to help me install Limewire? :P
[12:18] <baskitcaise> I notice that the drives in edgy kernel are hda and in feisty ( or newer kernel ) are sda, here might be the prob
[12:19] <athena> guys i still can't play back video avi files???
[12:19] <baskitcaise> I already had edgy and just updated over the net to feisty so not seen the prob here, maybe the install kernel on disk uses hda but installed kernel is using sda
[12:20] <_4strO> athena did you reboot ?
[12:20] <Aarin> baskitcaise: mybe, but he asks me wich controller should he use. (he gives a long list)
[12:20] <athena> no
[12:20] <james> What do I do with .rpm's?
[12:20] <_4strO> james: in ubuntu nothing :p
[12:20] <james> Alien it is
[12:20] <baskitcaise> james look at alien
[12:20] <james> Yea I got that
[12:22] <james> Wait a minute
[12:23] <james> I have a .deb file
[12:24] <Aarin> baskitcaise: i've tried choosing diferent controllers but the only one he didn't returned to the same menu was the controller named Seagate. and with that one he didn't passed to the partitions menu
[12:24] <tommy_> ive been told that this problem will be fixed in (k)ubuntu's daily builds, will it?
[12:24] <brzeszczot> hello
[12:24] <Cem_UNAL> i see nvidia logo but if i say "glxinfo | grep rendering" --> http://imaj.at/15605
[12:24] <brzeszczot> pls help
[12:24] <james> :P We can't help if we don't know the problem
[12:24] <brzeszczot> when i use apt-get ihave got Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:25] <brzeszczot> others program works very well
[12:25] <phoenix_G> :(
[12:25] <brzeszczot> how can i reinstall apt-get
[12:25] <phoenix_G> i am cursed :(
[12:25] <brzeszczot> maybe booting from cd and using some repair software
[12:25] <phoenix_G> anyone can help with ndiswrapper ?
[12:26] <Cem_UNAL> i use nvidia-legacy
[12:26] <brzeszczot> someone help..
[12:26] <phoenix_G> please ? help with ndiswrapper ?
[12:26] <shinobi> phoenix_G what's up
[12:27] <const> wow
[12:27] <brzeszczot> some one from poland?
[12:27] <james> brzeszczot: Just reinstall Ubuntu
[12:27] <james> Easy.
[12:27] <const> the  whole thng looks nice now
[12:27] <phoenix_G> i have a usb adapter with atheros chipset ... i install the 2 *.inf files and nothing happens
[12:28] <noam_> i'm upgrading to feisty. i hope nothing goes wrong, i'm pretty satisfied from my system as it is now :)
[12:28] <brzeszczot> reinstal dont remove my stuff and instaled program?
[12:28] <shinobi> phoenix_G install means?
[12:28] <james> idk Just repartition
[12:28] <const> anybody knows any working undernet servers?
[12:28] <phoenix_G> ndiswrapper -i *inf < < install
[12:28] <_4strO> brzeszczot: what did you do to have this pb ?
[12:29] <brzeszczot> i was install drivers for my graphick card
[12:29] <brzeszczot> radeon 9200
[12:30] <shinobi> phoenix_G ok, it's usb so it's hard for me to say. plus i never needed to install any drivers for atheros
[12:30] <tommy_> bye all
[12:30] <noam_> what's "modifying the software channels"?
[12:30] <_4strO> brzeszczot: can you paste the entire error message ?
[12:30] <phoenix_G> :( netgear sucks
[12:30] <phoenix_G> anyway thanks
[12:30] <_4strO> tommy_: you will try a more recent version ?
[12:31] <tommy_> sorry, tomorrow i plan on trying to update to 7.04
[12:31] <brzeszczot> when i use apt-get program return "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[12:32] <_4strO> tommy_: that's what i have done few days ago
[12:32] <tommy_> some have said they got the same error as me but they updated just fine
[12:32] <noam_> omg, the upgrade is going to download 1.4gb of packages
[12:32] <tommy_> hope it works
[12:32] <_4strO> ^^
[12:32] <_4strO> brzeszczot: i think that's not the entire message :p
[12:32] <tommy_> btw how big is the upgarde from 6.10 to 7.04
[12:33] <noam_> 1.4gb
[12:33] <noam_> :E
[12:33] <_4strO> !paste | brzeszczot
[12:33] <ubotu> brzeszczot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:33] <tommy_> how can the upgrade be 1.4gb when you can download the whole 7.04 iso which is 690*or so*mb
[12:34] <noam_> it's upgrading pretty much all of my installed packages
[12:34] <noam_> i have more installed than what's on the CD. i have gnome installed, for example...
[12:34] <tommy_> oh, got it
[12:34] <tommy_> i was scared for a minute there
[12:35] <_4strO> ^^
[12:35] <redmonkey> hi. what package do i have to install to be able to view png pictures? libpng2, 3, 10 or 12? and why are there so many?
[12:35] <tommy_> well for me just today i wiped my hard drive a re-installed this version of ubuntu 6.10, so will the upgrade to 7.04 how big?
[12:35] <athena> hey guys still can't play back video
[12:35] <noam_> can't konqueror for example show pngs for you?
[12:36] <brzeszczot> so how can i reinstall ubuntu?
[12:36] <noam_> tommy_, probably not that big. but i couldn't say
[12:36] <shinobi> athena huh? nothing? are you using kmplayer?
[12:37] <brzeszczot> _4strO: what i have to do? help :)
[12:37] <athena> just the standard
[12:37] <tommy_> OK, well ill try upgrading tomorrow. Thanks for everyones help!! bye all
[12:37] <noam_> bye :)
[12:37] <athena> what else can i install?
[12:37] <noam_> vlc, xine
[12:37] <shinobi> athena kaffeine?
[12:37] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo apt-get update -a
[12:37] <shinobi> athena kmplayer or mplayer vlc
[12:37] <athena> synaptic does not have kaffine?
[12:38] <noam_> i'm a big fan of vlc. never seen it fail
[12:38] <shinobi> kaffeine is by default
[12:38] <shinobi> vlc is good, kmplayer is fine too
[12:38] <athena> cant find mplayer vlc
[12:38] <noam_> i cancelled the system upgrade for now. it's too slow
[12:39] <Ilokaasu> noam_ do u use subtitles @ vlc ?
[12:39] <athena> only finds kmplayer-base
[12:39] <shinobi> is that no it?
[12:39] <_4strO> athena: you're on kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[12:39] <athena> ubuntu
[12:39] <Ilokaasu> i think im not the only one who has problems seeing all the subtitles, it shows about only 1/10 of them
[12:39] <shinobi> ahhh
[12:39] <athena> ahhh???
[12:39] <shreyas> i need help installing wine on kubuntu 6.06
[12:39] <s0undt3ch> CarinArr: there's no way I could get lan connection, the et-131x module does not ship with xubuntu
[12:39] <_4strO> athena: you have totem too i think
[12:40] <shinobi> athena ahh, i thought you were on kubuntu all along
[12:40] <athena> but it does not play back vid
[12:40] <_4strO> athena: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:41] <shinobi> _4strO that's done for athena already
[12:41] <_4strO> ha ok
[12:41] <shinobi> athena right? try it and see it will tell you
[12:41] <Aarin> is it possible do discover which disk controller i'm using in my edgy eft?
[12:42] <brzeszczot> apt-get update -a  - doesn't work - return "-a dont egzist"
[12:42] <athena> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:42] <_4strO> oups
[12:42] <athena> Reading package lists... Done
[12:42] <athena> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:42] <athena> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[12:42] <shinobi> athena is some other adept or synaptic open?
[12:42] <athena> just cloed it
[12:43] <athena> closed it
[12:43] <athena> root@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:43] <athena> Reading package lists... Done
[12:43] <athena> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:43] <athena> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[12:43] <shinobi> athena did you have the medibuntu repository installed??
[12:43] <athena> i dont know?
[12:44] <shinobi> okay i think you can look at your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <athena> any other ideas?
[12:45] <shinobi> if you have medibuntu repository in there you should get w32 codecs
[12:45] <brzeszczot> _4str0: how to  reinstall apt-get
[12:45] <brzeszczot> _4str0: or ubuntu
[12:45] <nicolai_> athena - you could also open adept and say manage repositories
[12:45] <_4strO> brzeszczot: i dont think your apt broken
[12:45] <athena> the file in this location is called medibuntu.list
[12:45] <_4strO> just block by an update not finish
[12:46] <athena> how do i use adept?
[12:46] <_4strO> athena: just open it
[12:46] <_4strO> and serach your package
[12:46] <M_Fatih> i have too many apt error codes : http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=595
[12:46] <athena> where do i find adept
[12:46] <M_Fatih> i can't install/update/remove anything
[12:47] <nicolai_> K -> system -> adept
[12:47] <shinobi> _4strO athena but if the command line said it wasn't there you will have to add the repository first
[12:47] <brzeszczot> _4str0: so where is problem?
[12:47] <athena> and how do i do that?
[12:47] <_4strO> shinobi: i know ;)
[12:47] <shinobi> nicolai_ athena ubuntu right, it's probably different in gnome
[12:48] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo apt-get update and then paste the entire message he give you
[12:48] <nicolai_> ahh
[12:48] <_4strO> !paste | brzeszczot
[12:48] <ubotu> brzeszczot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:48] <nicolai_> but adding it in any case is explained her https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:48] <athena> shinobi what diff in gnome
[12:49] <nicolai_> gnome uses synaptic i think
[12:49] <gnomefreak> right
[12:49] <shinobi> athena a lot of things, and i only used gnome for like three hours so i don't know
[12:49] <shinobi> synaptic is better than adept though
[12:49] <_4strO> athena: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:49] <athena> nicolai im using synaptic
[12:50] <athena> ## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 6.06 LTS "dapper drake"
[12:50] <athena> ## Please report any bug on https://launchpad.net/products/medibuntu/+bugs
[12:50] <athena> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[12:50] <athena> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[12:50] <holger__> moin tachchen moin
[12:50] <_4strO> athena: lsb_release -a ?
[12:50] <shinobi> so update and the search w32 codecs
[12:50] <athena> dont know
[12:50] <_4strO> athena: are you on a dapper version ?
[12:51] <athena> yes
[12:51] <athena> dapper  drake
[12:51] <Cem_UNAL> i am using TNT2 card; glxinfo fails; my xorg --> http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=594 and my bugs on screen --> http://imaj.at/15605
[12:51] <_4strO> athena: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:52] <_4strO> Cem_UNAL: i dont know
[12:52] <athena> look like it working
[12:52] <shinobi> if not athena, how about easyubuntu?
[12:52] <athena> easyubuntu?
[12:52] <_4strO> shinobi: that is not a good idea ;)
[12:53] <athena> are you taking the shit out of me?
[12:53] <rubyn> hi, is kubuntu compatible with beryl? and i beryl included in kubuntu cd?
[12:53] <const> how do you get the windows going in circles when you press Alt-Tab?
[12:53] <athena> its ok...if you are
[12:53] <nicolai_> athena - easyubuntu works but could mess up your system
[12:53] <athena> ok
[12:53] <const> how do you get the windows going in circles when you press Alt-Tab?
[12:54] <_4strO> rubyn: compatible ... yes, include ... no (only in the universe repo)
[12:54] <rubyn> thx astro
[12:54] <brzeszczot> _4str0:
[12:54] <brzeszczot> Pobrano 196B w 0s (223B/s)
[12:54] <brzeszczot> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:54] <shinobi> athena my mistake w32 codecs was not in my list, once you install that it should work
[12:54] <_4strO> const: itsn't alt-tab but superkey-tab ;)
[12:55] <athena> ok its taking a while to download
[12:55] <_4strO> shinobi: w32codecs (without space)
[12:55] <athena> thanks shinobi...
[12:55] <shinobi> _4strO yeah sorry - little analog of me
[12:56] <_4strO> athena: finished ?
[12:56] <shinobi> athena it's 20 some mb so it is slow
[12:56] <const> _4strO: hmm...  what's superkey?
[12:56] <_4strO> const: windows key
[12:56] <athena> its half way there..
[12:56] <_4strO> ok
[12:57] <athena> so my bad only completed %5
[12:57] <shinobi> athena once installed yur default player should work for mp3 and video
[12:57] <_4strO> shinobi: did you put the libdvdcss2 package too in your list ?
[12:57] <athena> full crazy
[12:57] <Bhaskar1> I have ubuntu 6.06 now, i want to upgrade it into kubuntu 6.10 from CD, how it possible without loss of existing data?
[12:57] <brzeszczot> _4str0: so i pasted and?
[12:57] <_4strO> brzeszczot: give me the url
[12:57] <franky> how i can know the root password?
[12:58] <_4strO> franky: you cant :p
[12:58] <Black_Cat> how do i view CHM files under kubuntu?
[12:58] <franky> _4strO:  but i am the root
[12:58] <franky> xDD
[12:58] <franky> but i dont know what password is
[12:58] <Bhaskar1> red, I have ubuntu 6.06 now, i want to upgrade it into kubuntu 6.10 from CD, how it possible without loss of existing data?
[12:58] <_4strO> franky: it's the pass create with the first account user
[12:58] <shinobi> _4strO yes only w32 was missing
[12:58] <_4strO> shinobi: ok :)
[12:58] <brzeszczot> _4str0: url from where?
[12:58] <franky> _4strO:  i thought was it, but kubuntu does not accept
[12:59] <shinobi> _4strO because at that time it was like with athena, too slow and i had the .deb somewhere
[12:59] <Black_Cat> franky, kubuntu doesn't have root account in normal linux sense. you are the omnipotent user if you installed the OS with your login
[12:59] <_4strO> brzeszczot: the url where you paste the message
[01:00] <_4strO> franky: you cant login a X session under root account
[01:00] <_4strO> (if it's what you try to do)
[01:00] <athena> honestly if it wasn't for the help of all you guy's i'd be lost..  YOU GUYS ROCK..
[01:00] <franky> Black_Cat:  ok but if i want to change the drwx rwx rwx of a file?
[01:01] <franky> no _4strO i want to change the permitions
[01:01] <franky> permitions? my english is a bit bad...:P sorry
[01:01] <_4strO> franky: no pb mine isn't better :p
[01:02] <Black_Cat> franky, in which program do you perform it? konqueror? mc? or...?
[01:02] <nicolai_> most of us here probably have English as second or third language :)
[01:02] <_4strO> franky: sudo chmod 777 yourfile
[01:02] <const> _4strO: Window-Tab is what I was looking for
[01:03] <_4strO> const: i know ;)
[01:03] <const> you could be useful :-)
[01:03] <_4strO> const: just a think, windows key is called superkey ;)
[01:04] <const> okay, now I'm learning something
[01:04] <const> and this magnify thing is awesome
[01:05] <Black_Cat> how do i view CHM files under kubuntu?
[01:05] <const> i'm sleepy ... in a bed with laptop...
[01:05] <_4strO> i prefer the alt-tab way
[01:05] <noam_> Black5un, kchm is pretty nice
[01:05] <const> really nice feature
[01:05] <_4strO> Black_Cat: did you try in ooo ?
[01:05] <franky> _4strO:  oks, but what does mean sudo?
[01:05] <noam_> er kchmviewer
[01:05] <lordhelmet> hey all....i just upgraded my laptop from edgy to feisty, and i now am missing my shutdown options from the menu in kde (running gdm with kde). i only have logout...any ideas?
[01:05] <_4strO> franky: sudo is to Super User DO i think
[01:05] <Black_Cat> fraiddo, DO as Super User
[01:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: sudo
[01:06] <Black_Cat> _4strO, erm. what're you talking about? :)
[01:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:06] <lordhelmet> also my power button doesn't shutdown my laptop anymore either
[01:06] <franky> _4strO:  oks, thankyou, so in kubuntu does not exit a root?
[01:06] <_4strO> Black_Cat: ooo = openoffice :p
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> franky: root exists, you just don't log into root - no password set.
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> !root
[01:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:07] <Black_Cat> _4strO, LOL :) I'll try....
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> you can run sudo -i to become root
[01:07] <_4strO> franky: it exist
[01:07] <_4strO> franky: sudo su
[01:07] <nicolai_> lordhelmet - try shutdown or killall or something like that in konsole
[01:07] <_4strO> and you will be root
[01:07] <const> btw, how do you get root password?
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> or sudo -s
[01:07] <const> i had to boot in "recovery mode" and type passwd there
[01:08] <franky> LeeJunFan:  but no doing this: sudo chmod 777 filename, i put my password as the first user and it goes ok
[01:08] <_4strO> const: root pass is the pass tou created with the first login
[01:08] <lordhelmet> nicolai: that works just fine, but i should have my buttons....i enjoy being able to shutdown my laptop by pressing the power button, or restart with ctrl+alt+del -> alt+r
[01:08] <const> that works... just wondering how do you folks get root password
[01:08] <const> _4strO: no, that pass did not work
[01:08] <franky> but if i put in command line: su then i put the pwd and it gives to me a authenticion failure :S
[01:08] <lordhelmet> nicolai: i just have the logout option (with shutdown/restart on the main gdm login screen)
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> const: you can set one. echo "root:password" | sudo chpasswd
[01:10] <nicolai_> It was also just a temporary fix. It sounds like an issue for the forum. :P
[01:10] <_4strO> lordhelmet: are you using XGL ?
[01:10] <const> i got my pass, thx. but....
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> const: but you shouldn't need one really, the password for your first user should get you into recovery.
[01:10] <const> after i installed, i had "!" instead of "*"
[01:10] <lordhelmet> _4str0: no, using gdm + regular kde
[01:13] <elbing> I upgraded last night from edgy to Feisty. All ok but, what about unofficial repos of kubuntu.org? there is just Edgy dirs
[01:13] <elbing> will be there feisty in future or I remove that sources?
[01:16] <lordhelmet> ~/quit
[01:17] <_4strO> elbing: lol
[01:17] <_4strO> oups
[01:17] <_4strO> lol
[01:17] <const> the most emazing thing is i have shitty inte integrated graphics
[01:17] <const> and beryl runs flawlessly
[01:17] <brzeszczot> _4str0: so what do think about that crap :) ?
[01:18] <const> anybody got recent nvidia chip?
[01:21] <brzeszczot> _4str0: help...
[01:22] <_4strO> brzeszczot: try : sudo aptitude reinstall apt
[01:22] <brzeszczot> _4str0: same results :((((
[01:23] <shinobi_> athena still downloading?
[01:23] <brzeszczot> _4str0:
[01:23] <brzeszczot> aptitude reinstall apt
[01:23] <brzeszczot> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:23] <_4strO> :/
[01:24] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo dpkg  --configure -a
[01:24] <_4strO> this one will be good
[01:25] <brzeszczot> _4str0: i tried this one - didn't help
[01:26] <brzeszczot> _4str0: aptitude doesn't work too :(
[01:26] <brzeszczot> _4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16537/
[01:27] <const> how do you make foucus-follow-mouse in kde+beryl?
[01:27] <_4strO> brzeszczot: what gave you : dpkg  --configure -a
[01:29] <brzeszczot> _4str0: return nothig - empty line
[01:30] <_4strO> const: general option / principal / focus i think
[01:30] <_4strO> brzeszczot: mmmm
[01:31] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[01:31] <ubuntu> hey, I just booted the feisty kde livecd, but it seems to select the wrong screen dimensions (I have a widescreen laptop)
[01:31] <ubuntu> I tried every screen size in the settings menu but they all look strange
[01:32] <_4strO> ubuntu : so change it :p
[01:32] <ubuntu> do you know how I can know which one is the correct for my laptop, it isn't in the manuals
[01:32] <_4strO> ubuntu: ha ok :) did you try to change de refreh frequncy too ?
[01:32] <ubuntu> no, it's a 60Hz
[01:32] <ubuntu> s/a/at
[01:33] <ubuntu> but that's the only option in the combobox
[01:33] <_4strO> ok
[01:33] <const> _4strO: i found general options (in beryl) .... :-)    but there is no principa/foucus there
[01:33] <ubuntu> in dapper it was ok
[01:34] <_4strO> const: there is one , actually i think it's on the fist page and you have to go down the page ;)
[01:34] <Novae> quick question guys, i installed one of the recent kubuntu betas and so have kde installed however i'd like to reinstall kde from scratch so i can remove some of the useless stuff i don't use.
[01:35] <ubuntu> _4strO: 1024x768 was the one kubuntu selected, that't not widescreen right?
[01:35] <shinobi_> Novae but you don't want  a full reinstall?
[01:35] <Novae> trying to do this via the package manager is too hard as there are too many dependancies...
[01:35] <_4strO> ubuntu right
[01:35] <ubuntu> ok thx
[01:35] <nicolai_> ubuntu - you're correct. that isn't widescreen
[01:35] <Novae> shinobi_ nope, i've got most of the stuff setup and it took me forever to install in the first place...stupid kernel...
[01:36] <ubuntu> _4strO: I know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but is that possible on a livecd?
[01:36] <shinobi_> Novae sure there was a nice piece on how to do it using command line and a list of packages that make up the base kde install you may have to google it
[01:36] <Novae> lol, i ended up having to chroot in and compile a new kernel to get a couple of things working...
[01:36] <_4strO> ubuntu: never try but ui think yes
[01:37] <MidMark> guys I have no shut down and reboot options, only end session!
[01:37] <MidMark> someone else experiencing this problem?
[01:37] <MidMark> after Feisty upgrade
[01:37] <Novae> i've seen the page but i don't think they have a list of packages for feisty and i'm not sure how similiar to efty the package setup is...
[01:37] <shinobi_> MidMark did you do strtx from command line?
[01:37] <const> _4strO: thanks! I'm blind :-)
[01:37] <MidMark> nope, but I'm under kubuntu but gdm is selected not kdm, don't know if this change
[01:37] <_4strO> const: ;)
[01:38] <_4strO> MidMark: why not try with kdm ?
[01:38] <shinobi_> MidMark if i start the x server with start x even with kdm i can only choose end session
[01:38] <MidMark> I can try, but I don't like it
[01:38] <MidMark> shinobi_: I _don't_ have started with startx
[01:38] <ubuntu> _4strO: cool, I changed a bit, going to relogin now, feels really strange editing a livecd file, but I guess everything is stored in mem :-) brb
[01:38] <MidMark> normal boot
[01:39] <_4strO> ubuntu: right but you will lose it at next reboot :)
[01:39] <_4strO> too late ...
[01:40] <_4strO> brzeszczot: ??? what's hap ?
[01:40] <const> _4strO: i'm off to bed
[01:40] <const> nice chattingwith you
[01:40] <const> see you later
[01:40] <_4strO> ;)
[01:40] <_4strO> yes seeya
[01:40] <_4strO> around ...
[01:40] <Bluetooth> hi all
[01:41] <Bluetooth> need help upgrading egdy to fiesty
[01:41] <Bluetooth> tried as it's written on ubuntu.com
[01:41] <Bluetooth> no luck
[01:41] <_4strO> Bluetooth: dont think it's the right moment to do this :p
[01:41] <Bluetooth> when then?
[01:42] <_4strO> Bluetooth: what's your pb ?
[01:42] <_4strO> Blue
[01:42] <dhq> Bluetooth: use updatemanager the best
[01:42] <shinobi_> Bluetooth _4strO maybe after a few days?
[01:42] <dhq> !update-manager
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <_4strO> Bluetooth: whenn less people upgrade ;)
[01:42] <Bluetooth> aaa
[01:42] <Bluetooth> ok
[01:42] <Bluetooth> >D
[01:42] <Bluetooth> :D
[01:42] <shinobi_> Bluetooth sooooo slooow right now
[01:42] <_4strO> Bluetooth: you have pb to join ubuntu servers ?
[01:42] <Bluetooth> but it doesn't say that upgrade is possible as in ubuntu
[01:43] <Bluetooth> what is pb?
[01:43] <_4strO> pb = problem :p
[01:43] <Bluetooth> u mean connect?
[01:43] <_4strO> yep
[01:43] <Bluetooth> no
[01:43] <Bluetooth> no pb with connection
[01:43] <_4strO> then what ?
[01:44] <dhq> my flash in konqueror doesnt work please help
[01:44] <shinobi_> Bluetooth _4strO probably just slooooow
[01:44] <Bluetooth> it just doesn't say upgrade is possible
[01:44] <Bluetooth> I mean adept
[01:44] <_4strO> dhq: and in firefox ?
[01:44] <amigrave> after the dist upgrade from edgy to feisty, the X server is not starting because I was using nvidia module (installed on edgy using envy script). What is the best way to install nvidia driver on feisty ?
[01:45] <dhq> _4strO: works fine
[01:45] <shinobi_> amigrave sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[01:45] <ubuntu> lol, _4strO I restarted the x server but of course didn't know the user name or password :-D
[01:45] <Bluetooth> so what to do?
[01:45] <ubuntu> but I saw the the dimension where good now, the login screen looked ok
[01:45] <ubuntu> so I'm going to install now
[01:45] <Bluetooth> maybe I should add some deps
[01:46] <lag_3d> i installed beryl but now i lost the window titlebar, how do i recover the titlebar?
[01:46] <shinobi_> Bluetooth didi you change edgy to feisty in source.list
[01:46] <Bluetooth> manually?
[01:46] <_riccardo> hello
[01:46] <_4strO> ubuntu : ^^
[01:46] <dhq> lag_3d: install emrald window manager
[01:46] <lag_3d> Bluetooth: doesn't matter, as long as it works :)
[01:46] <_riccardo> anybody having problems with the installer not recognising the existing partitions?
[01:46] <shinobi_> Bluetooth sure then try it
[01:46] <Bluetooth> I just added a dep as it's written on site
[01:47] <_riccardo> i have /dev/sda
[01:47] <lag_3d> dhq: cool, thanks
[01:47] <_riccardo> but i also have sda1,sda2,sda3 etc
[01:47] <Bluetooth> just change edgy to fiesty on all depos?
[01:47] <dhq> _4strO: flash in fire fox ok
[01:47] <_riccardo> but the installer just sees sda and wants to write another partition table :-(
[01:47] <shinobi_> Bluetooth osrry i don't know the site so i am maybe give you wrong info, but in principal it would seem weird to still have edgy in your sources list if you are updating to feisty
[01:47] <lag_3d> and, btw, they promissed feisty would feature compiz installed by default and enableable from a certain control pannel -- well, i don't find that control pannel
[01:48] <_4strO> dhq: locate libflashplayer.so
[01:48] <shinobi_> lag_3d ubuntu yes, kubuntu no
[01:48] <lag_3d> why don't i find that in kubuntu
[01:48] <Bluetooth> shinobi_ I'll try
[01:48] <dhq> _4strO: and
[01:48] <_4strO> dhq: give it you some result ?
[01:48] <Novae> so, does anyone know how to install kde-core(replacing kububtu-desktop) without removing general kubuntu functionality?
[01:48] <lag_3d> shinobi_: oh, so kubuntu has no feature parity with ubuntu??
[01:49] <lag_3d> shinobi_: are there any other things where ubuntu has more options than kubuntu?
[01:49] <athena> hey guys just finished and still can't play back avi files
[01:49] <_4strO> lag_3d: try to killall -9 emerald
[01:49] <shinobi_> lag_3d that seems a little technical, but evidently...no...
[01:49] <ubuntu> mm, the installer still looks ugly, did they write the gui in tk or so ;)
[01:49] <_4strO> athena: did you reboot ?
[01:49] <athena> no
[01:49] <athena> should i?
[01:49] <_4strO> try ;)
[01:49] <athena> hanks
[01:49] <athena> thanks
[01:49] <athena> back soon
[01:49] <_4strO> yes
[01:49] <_4strO> i hope so !
[01:50] <lag_3d> shinobi_: no to "any other things" or to "so kubuntu has no feature parity"?
[01:50] <shinobi_> lag_3d but for sure that beryl by default is not the same
[01:50] <shinobi_> lag_3d no to the parity
[01:50] <Bluetooth> shinobi_ no luck
[01:50] <Bluetooth> *
[01:50] <Bluetooth> (
[01:50] <ubuntu> lag_3d: I think ubuntu and kubuntu each have there own futures, they don't have to be equal do you think?
[01:50] <amigrave> shinobi_: don't work. Is it supposed to install nvidia.ko module? When modprobing nvidia I've got FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[01:50] <lag_3d> _4strO: if i killall emerald what happens?
[01:51] <corbax> salut
[01:51] <_4strO> lag_3d: it will start another emerald i suppose
[01:51] <lag_3d> ubuntu, shinobi_: well, what about click'n'run?
[01:51] <Bluetooth> adept doesn't show it can connect to any of depos
[01:51] <dhq> _4strO: home/dhq/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:51] <shinobi_> amigrave hmm, it made me reinstall my kernel, then when i rebooted nad i had nvidia
[01:51] <Bluetooth> (
[01:51] <shinobi_> lag_3d click n' run?
[01:52] <Bluetooth> I manually changed edgy to fiesty in depo list
[01:52] <lag_3d> shinobi_: cnr was promissed for feisty
[01:52] <shinobi_> lag_3d what is that?
[01:52] <lag_3d> shinobi_: and i found no mention of in in kubuntu feisty
[01:53] <shinobi_> Bluetooth have you been in konsole and du sudo apt-get update
[01:53] <_4strO> dhq: go to the konqueror configuration, part "external moduls" or something like this
[01:53] <Bluetooth> that doesn't work on my PC
[01:53] <Bluetooth> I'm under MS ISA server
[01:53] <lag_3d> shinobi_: cnr is freespire's applications warehouse
[01:53] <Bluetooth> apt-get won't work, but adept does
[01:54] <shinobi_> Bluetooth okay, that may be the start of some of the issues i guess.
[01:54] <_4strO> dhq: just click on the button who propose you to find new moduls
[01:54] <nicolai_> I believe cnr was delayed for 7.10
[01:54] <amigrave> shinobi_: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic ?
[01:54] <ubuntu> imho they may delac cnr for 3000.10
[01:54] <shinobi_> amigrave i think mine asked me to do it when i did the nvidia-glx
[01:54] <shinobi_> the dependency was a new kernel with nvidia inside
[01:55] <shinobi_> i think you need to enable the multiverse though
[01:55] <Bluetooth> how to change proxy settings for apt-get?
[01:55] <aziz> so how are the updates from edgy to feisty going? any major problems?
[01:55] <shinobi_> amigrave do oyu have full set of repos?
[01:55] <ubuntu> Bluetooth: maybe apt-get uses the proxy environment vars?
[01:56] <amigrave> shinobi_: mhhh ! right ! I have not checked what the dist upgrade tool changed in my sources.list. Does it need universe and multiverse or an external source ?
[01:56] <ubuntu> Bluetooth:  something like export ftp_proxy="http://proxy.example.com:8080"
[01:56] <Bluetooth> where? some file as I remember
[01:56] <shinobi_> amigrave nvidia stuff is universe multiverse
[01:57] <shinobi_> that's why it can't make the change because it can't get the restricted modules
[01:57] <ubuntu> Bluetooth: note I'm not sure about this, just suspecting, you can type that in the cli before you type apt-get to test if it works
[01:57] <amigrave> shinobi_: still have univers and multiverse in my source list so I guess it's not the problem
[01:58] <Bluetooth> ok. in what file are the proxy settings for apt-get?
[01:58] <shinobi_> amigrave but sounds like it;s not updating the kernel properly
[01:58] <lag_3d> shinobi_, ubuntu: in what repo do i  find the nvidia driver?
[01:59] <_4strO> apt-cache madison nvidia
[01:59] <shinobi_> lag_3d i think it's in standard multiveres / universe
[02:00] <athena> hey iven after the reboot i still cant play back video
[02:00] <lag_3d> shinobi_: and is it the latest driver?
[02:00] <shinobi_> i need a hand here, none of the fonts are regebnerating the cache properly
[02:00] <ubuntu> Bluetooth: first type something like this: export http_proxy='http://proxy.site.domain:port@user:password' , then use apt
[02:00] <Bluetooth> ok, 'll try
[02:00] <shinobi_> lag_3d no you ned to follow special instructions for the nvidia latest, you can for example download and build from nvidia site
[02:01] <athena> it says i dont have a decoder installed to handle this file
[02:01] <athena> _4strO can you help me again please???
[02:01] <Bluetooth> in what file is source list?
[02:02] <ubuntu> Bluetooth: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <_4strO> athena:
[02:02] <Bluetooth> ok
[02:02] <_4strO> wich file ?
[02:02] <_4strO> witch file ?
[02:02] <athena> avi
[02:02] <amigrave> shinobi_: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic didn't helped
[02:02] <athena> haven't tried mp3 yet
[02:02] <_4strO> athena: try ;)
[02:02] <_4strO> i think i couldn't read it reight ?
[02:03] <_4strO> reight*
[02:03] <_4strO> right*
[02:03] <_4strO> f*$$ fingers
[02:03] <ubuntu> left?
[02:03] <myky> all: please help me have anyone ati x200?
[02:04] <_4strO> myky: i have an X600
[02:04] <athena> An Error Occured
[02:04] <Bluetooth> myky there was nice HowTo on ubuntuforums.org
[02:04] <Bluetooth> try google
[02:04] <athena> You do no have a decoder nstalled to handle this file
[02:04] <_4strO> athena: ok :/
[02:05] <shinobi_> amigrave thre is a instruction on ubuntu forums that works for latest nvidia driver
[02:05] <shinobi_> amigrave though it should work of the repos
[02:05] <myky> Bluetooth:  you known i try googling , i find more manual but my fglrx dont work
[02:06] <athena> _4strO what do you mean by :/
[02:06] <shinobi_> look nice fonts ubuntu japanese
[02:06] <shinobi_> looks nice japanese ubuntu
[02:06] <james> x.x
[02:07] <_4strO> athena: it's just a smile
[02:07] <amigrave> shinobi_: do you have an idea about the package where lies the nvidia kernel module ? I tried dpkg --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-generic whithout success. I think all I need is install the package with the nvidia kernel module but don't know which package it is
[02:07] <_4strO> like :) but :/
[02:07] <_4strO> not so happy face
[02:07] <athena> oh ok
[02:07] <shinobi_> nvidia-glx
[02:07] <athena> does not play mp3 either  :(
[02:08] <_4strO> athena: I think you have all needed to read them
[02:08] <myky> _4strO: are you go fglrx in your ati?
[02:09] <_4strO> athena: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[02:09] <james> _4strO: is there one of those for JRE?
[02:09] <_4strO> james:  ?
[02:10] <amigrave> shinobi_: in the nvidia-glx deb I can find the Xorg nvidia driver, but not the nvidia kernel driver (nvidia.ko)
[02:10] <_4strO> myky: whart ?
[02:10] <james> Nothing. I just installed Java, yet when I type in Limewire it says I don't have the latest version
[02:10] <athena> ok i'll try that now
[02:10] <athena> root@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[02:10] <athena> Reading package lists... Done
[02:10] <athena> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:10] <athena> Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:10] <athena> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:10] <athena> is only available from another source
[02:10] <athena> E: Package ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[02:11] <Bluetooth> Zdravstvuyte Jim!
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[02:11] <Bluetooth> sorry
[02:11] <Bluetooth> no luck guys
[02:11] <Bluetooth> can't upgrade
[02:11] <bentob0x> anybody knows how to add stuff in your right-click menu?
[02:11] <shinobi_> amigrave i know why
[02:11] <Bluetooth> apt-get connects, but says no updates
[02:11] <brzeszczot> _4str0: i try "dpkg --configure -a" and nothig return - empty line
[02:11] <shinobi_> amigrave linux modules restricted
[02:11] <myky> all: please help me have anyone ati x200?
[02:11] <athena> anything else you can suggest?
[02:12] <james> Reinstall Ubuntu xP
[02:12] <shinobi_> amigrave linux-restricted-modules-....kernel#...generic
[02:12] <Bluetooth> yeah, best way
[02:12] <shinobi_> amigrave that needs to be installed
[02:12] <brzeszczot> james: it was sugest for me ?
[02:12] <james> Anyone really
[02:12] <james> It solves most problems
[02:13] <_4strO> james: you need the 1.5 JRE i think and you have the 1.4 by defaut
[02:13] <james> I installed 1.6
[02:14] <Black_Cat> is there anything similar to DOS/Win32 .bat files?
[02:14] <shinobi_> amigrave found it?
[02:14] <james> .com files?
[02:14] <_4strO> james: yes 1.6 (was my mistake)
[02:14] <james> What about it?
[02:15] <Bluetooth> Black_Cat, shell scripting
[02:15] <james> _4strO: What about 1.6? I Installed it...
[02:15] <Black_Cat> Bluetooth, any standard file extension?
[02:15] <Bluetooth> no
[02:15] <Black_Cat> okay...
[02:16] <Bluetooth> just need to start with #!/bin/bash
[02:16] <_4strO> athena: james yes, but i think it dont execut the 1.6 by default
[02:16] <Bluetooth> try google
[02:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can you check what version of ubuntu you're running, on the command line/
[02:16] <james> _4strO: How do I fix that one up
[02:16] <_4strO> dettoaltrimenti_: lsb_release -a
[02:16] <Bluetooth> shinobi I got GPG error
[02:16] <snikker> i'm tring to umount my /boot partion with no success: device busy. how can i workaround this?
[02:16] <Bluetooth> says no pub key
[02:16] <athena> i dont understand
[02:17] <shinobi_> _4strO failed to write cache on font cache
[02:17] <_4strO> shinobi ??
[02:17] <shinobi_> Bluetooth add gpg key?
[02:17] <Bluetooth> how?
[02:18] <Bluetooth> says signatures couldn't be verified because there is no pub key
[02:18] <_4strO> athena: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:18] <shinobi_> Bluetooth yes normal
[02:18] <_4strO> athena: and try to open an mp3 with xmms player
[02:18] <shinobi_> 864ijing
[02:18] <athena> ok
[02:19] <Bluetooth> so how to add a pub key?
[02:19] <Bluetooth> why is it so hard to upgrade???
[02:19] <Bluetooth> in ubuntu it's just so easy
[02:19] <Bluetooth> *
[02:19] <Bluetooth> (
[02:19] <shinobi_> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[02:19] <shinobi_> Bluetooth those two lines, replace KEY with the key
[02:19] <yeti> my kubuntu refuses to upgrade to feisty :/ it says i should free at least 6.5M of space on /boot, but theres 32M free on boot, why on earth does it need 40M of space? do i need to repartition?
[02:20] <_4strO> james: two options
[02:20] <shinobi_> Bluetooth starting at #
[02:20] <_4strO> james: change the command executed by the limewire icon
[02:20] <Bluetooth> ok
[02:20] <james> oh I type in limewire in cli
[02:21] <athena> will not play
[02:21] <Cem_UNAL> please help i can't give direct renderin support my screen card ( TNT2 )
[02:21] <_4strO> athena: rhooooo !
[02:21] <amigrave> shinobi_: already reinstalled restricted modules but using package linux-restricted-modules-generic
[02:21] <Bluetooth> what sould be the key?
[02:21] <Bluetooth> anything?
[02:21] <amigrave> shinobi_: currently trying nvidia-glx-new and legacy
[02:22] <shinobi_> Bluetooth no. it is whatever it is for that repository, you will have to look it up depending on the repository
[02:22] <boubbin> how to install nvidia-legacy drivers in feisty ?
[02:22] <james> _4strO:  what was my second option
[02:22] <shinobi_> amigrave those should not be it
[02:22] <_4strO> james: go where the JRE1.6 is
[02:22] <Bluetooth> how?
[02:22] <Bluetooth> where?
[02:22] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: i installed bu it does not work :(
[02:22] <amigrave> shinobi_: I have the API mismatch problem
[02:22] <shinobi_> amigrave. there is one of those linux restricted modules for your kernel number, you need that one
[02:23] <_4strO> then go to /bin
[02:23] <athena> mps are working xmms
[02:23] <shinobi_> Bluetooth which is the missing key
[02:23] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: so, we have to wait until someone fixes it ?
[02:23] <_4strO> james: and then try ./java yourlimewirebinary
[02:24] <_4strO> athena: you have mp3's working with wmms ?
[02:24] <shinobi_> amigrave there were instructions on that in ubuntu forum if you have api mismatch
[02:24] <Bluetooth> how do I know the fu&*g missing key??????
[02:24] <athena> yes
[02:24] <_4strO> haaa !:)
[02:24] <athena> now we just need to sort out the avi please
[02:24] <shinobi_> Bluetooth when you do your update, it tells you what failed
[02:24] <amigrave> shinobi_: I searched for those threads but I mainly found empty threads
[02:24] <vbgunz> my upgrade to Feisty from Edgy has gone horribly broken :( Is there any reports and documentation I can go over?
[02:24] <james> _4strO: where might the JRE be
[02:24] <shinobi_> amigrave there one main one how to install nvidia on feisty
[02:24] <_4strO> james: where you install it
[02:24] <Bluetooth> it gave me something like thus AASDGQYFAR1253172
[02:25] <Bluetooth> is that it?
[02:25] <shinobi_> Bluetooth and before that? the url?
[02:25] <james> it was a bin, so I changed permissions and ran it in cli
[02:25] <MidMark> so anyone can help me try to show back reboot and halt to my kubuntu?
[02:25] <james> _4strO:  it was a bin, so I changed permissions and ran it in cli
[02:25] <MidMark> it was feisty upgrade that let me only end session
[02:26] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: ?
[02:26] <Bluetooth> shinobi can I send u output of apt-get?
[02:26] <_4strO> james: locate jre1.6.0 | grep bin
[02:26] <Bluetooth> it's mess I can't find needed string
[02:26] <amigrave> shinobi_: installing nvidia-glx-new did work for me !
[02:26] <shinobi_> uamigrave great!
[02:26] <fatimah> hi
[02:26] <amigrave> shinobi_: thanks for you help !!!
[02:27] <shinobi_> amigrave sure happy it works
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> are the repos finally running at a halfway respectable speed?
[02:27] <athena> _4stro any other thoughts
[02:27] <fatimah> may i ask something related with kubuntu ?
[02:27] <vbgunz> damn, upgrading to Feisty just broke my system :( I cannot upgrade it all :(
[02:27] <shinobi_> Bluetooth use the pastebin i guess
[02:27] <brzeszczot> _4str0: so what i must to do?
[02:27] <brzeszczot> _4str0: help
[02:27] <_4strO> brzeszczot:  :p
[02:27] <fatimah> i just want asking about upgrading too
[02:27] <_4strO> athena: just thinking about it
[02:27] <james> _4strO: Strange, the folder is on my desktop
[02:27] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: i asked it before u too; and nobody answered me?
[02:27] <athena> ok
[02:28] <_4strO> james: normal
[02:28] <fatimah> i got error msg unmet dependecies......
[02:28] <boubbin> ok
[02:28] <james> _4strO:  What did you want me to do with it?
[02:28] <brzeszczot> _4str0: what is funny? my apt-get ? :)
[02:28] <fatimah> exactly what's going on ?
[02:28] <_4strO> james: you download it with firefox and then it put in on your desktop
[02:28] <przemek_> elo
[02:28] <james> _4strO:  I've already done that.
[02:29] <brzeszczot> _4str0: tell me some advice
[02:29] <_4strO> james: try this : go to the bin dir in your java1.6 installation
[02:29] <james> Im there
[02:30] <shinobi_> anyone know if something is strange with the fonts in feisty?
[02:30] <james> _4strO:  I'm there
[02:30] <_4strO> james: and then : ./java yourLimewireBin
[02:30] <james> Okay
[02:30] <Graham> shinobi_: No.
[02:30] <brzeszczot> james: so how to reinstal ubuntu?
[02:30] <james> Put the disk in?
[02:30] <Bluetooth> shinobi pastebin.ca/449727
[02:30] <shinobi_> Graham faled to write cache
[02:31] <Cem_UNAL> :D
[02:31] <Graham> shinobi_: What are we talking about here?
[02:31] <shinobi_> Bluetooth can i get that link again?
[02:31] <shinobi_> Graham font cache
[02:31] <james> _4strO: Type that exactly?
[02:31] <brzeszczot> james: that was funny - but what next - install like usual?
[02:31] <Bluetooth> shinobi http://pastebin.ca/449727
[02:31] <Graham> shinobi_: In general? In a particular application?
[02:31] <james> Yes. Install it on the partition you used to install it in the first place
[02:32] <Bluetooth> line 54 I guess
[02:32] <shinobi_> Bluetooth DD4D5088
[02:32] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/*
[02:32] <shinobi_> Bluetooth that is the KEY element
[02:32] <_4strO> brzeszczot: dont !
[02:32] <shawn34> anyone know why ktorrent stops seeding all togeather when a download finishes?
[02:32] <Bluetooth> just that?
[02:32] <shinobi_> Graham not exactly, i install fonts, and my font cache will not write
[02:33] <shinobi_> Bluetooth yes
[02:33] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/
[02:33] <_4strO> brzeszczot: and then : sudo apt-get update
[02:33] <james> _4strO: What is LimewireBin
[02:33] <pucko-> what is the problem with doing a regular dist-upgrade from cmd line instead of using adept-manager or whatever it is that's recommended?
[02:33] <Graham> shinobi_: Too bad. Have you noticed Fiesty being alot quicker?
[02:33] <brzeszczot> _4str0: rm cache i tried - doesn't work
[02:34] <MidMark> ok "resolved": all people that has kubuntu and gdm they cannot see other buttons than "end session"
[02:34] <_4strO> james: in fact i don't now but it will be in /usr/bin or /bin
[02:34] <MidMark> with kdm all is ok :(
[02:34] <_4strO> it should be*
[02:34] <_4strO> MidMark: ok thx for reply ;)
[02:35] <MidMark> _4strO: yes now I search if the bug is just filed
[02:35] <shinobi_> Graham not particularly, especially with this font issue seems to lock everything up
[02:35] <_4strO> james: look at the propriety of your limewire icon ;)
[02:35] <Bluetooth> shinobi, do u know whether kubuntu has now a normal keyboard layout switching applet
[02:36] <Bluetooth> or widget
[02:36] <james> _4strO: so it would be ./java /usr/bin/limewire
[02:36] <shinobi_> Bluetooth sure
[02:36] <_4strO> james: yes
[02:36] <vbgunz> anybody know how to fix a broken upgrade to Feisty from Edgy?
[02:36] <shinobi_> Bluetooth if it's just for type of keyboard, like us or jp or so
[02:36] <shinobi_> Bluetooth then it is a systray icon
[02:36] <Bluetooth> I have KDE Keyboard tool and Keyboard swith but they suck
[02:36] <james> _4strO: Nothing happened...
[02:37] <Bluetooth> I can switch once towards but can't backwards
[02:37] <_4strO> brzeszczot: you already remove the pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin files in /var/cache/apt/ ?
[02:37] <_4strO> james: no message ?
[02:37] <shinobi_> Bluetooth kcontrol - regional and accessibility - country.region and language
[02:37] <james> _4strO: Nope. Nothing.
[02:38] <shinobi_> Bluetooth and keyboard layout
[02:38] <_4strO> james: are you sure about /usr/bin/limewire ?
[02:38] <brzeszczot> _4str0: yes - its emty
[02:38] <james> Yes
[02:38] <james> Certain
[02:38] <shinobi_> Bluetooth actaully keyboard layout, enble keyborad layouts, select the relevant layouts you want
[02:38] <james> _4strO: I see the icon myself
[02:38] <_4strO> james: ok
[02:39] <mlu> Hi there - Anyone who has a upgraded to Feisty and now has problems enabling dma on your harddirive?
[02:39] <brzeszczot> _4str0: now apt-get update return: "E: Brakuje katalogu archiww /var/cache/apt/archives/partial"
[02:39] <Bluetooth> I think will do it after upgrade
[02:39] <Bluetooth> doesn't work now
[02:39] <Bluetooth> on 6.10 at least
[02:39] <shinobi_> Bluetooth those other apps may be influenceing it, best to start clean
[02:40] <_4strO> brzeszczot: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[02:40] <vbgunz> upgrade to Feisty has broken Edgys upgrade ability, whats up?
[02:41] <Bluetooth> shinobi didn't work at start as well
[02:42] <Bluetooth> I have EN_US and RU_RU
[02:42] <brzeszczot> _4str0: clean doesn't help
[02:42] <Bluetooth> I can switch from EN to RU, but can't from RU to EN
[02:42] <Bluetooth> I mean using keyboard shortcut
[02:43] <_4strO> brzeszczot: just sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/ && sudo apt-get update
[02:43] <Bluetooth> I can click on systray icon
[02:43] <_4strO> james: i have a solution but i'm not about result :p
[02:43] <shinobi_> Bluetooth mmm...sounds like it could be one of the specific setting that does that, some of them conflict, like shift-space an so on
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> friggin no workie mouse wheel
[02:44] <Bluetooth> shinobi http://pastebin.ca/449743
[02:44] <Bluetooth> still can't update
[02:44] <shawn34> Can I install directly from the live cd without loading the actual desktop up?
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> shawn34: for that you want the alternate cd
[02:44] <shawn34> crap, no other way?
[02:44] <shinobi_> Bluetooth did you add the GPG key???
[02:44] <boubbin> how to enable repos ins kubuntu fesity ?
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> it allows direct install, the live cd requires the live environment
[02:44] <shinobi_> Bluetooth using # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[02:45] <shawn34> Daisuke_Ido, everytime i put the cd in and hit enter on the first option it says 'Loading' in the top right and just sits there
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[02:45] <Bluetooth> yes
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i would say try the alt. cd
[02:45] <shawn34> Daisuke_Ido, the only cd i can get to load up and install is an old dapper beta
[02:45] <Bluetooth> shinobi http://pastebin.ca/449744
[02:45] <Bluetooth> i did both
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds like your drive might be a little evil
[02:46] <shinobi_> Bluetooth did it say ok ?
[02:46] <ma3x> can somebody paste their xorg.conf on pastebin.ca ?
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to run for now though, class
[02:46] <Bluetooth> it said nothing
[02:46] <_4strO> Bluetooth: why have you still some eddy stuff in your repo ?
[02:46] <shinobi_> Bluetooth you have mispelled feisty as fiesty
[02:46] <Bluetooth> shit
[02:46] <Bluetooth> really?
[02:46] <boubbin> how to enable repos in kubuntu feisty ?
[02:47] <shinobi_> Bluetooth and as _4strO says, edgy not okay
[02:47] <_4strO> boubbin: in adept
[02:47] <shinobi_> Bluetooth and it should say that it is getting  the key nad then say okay when you add it
[02:47] <boubbin> i dont see any repos there...
[02:47] <Bluetooth> _4strO trying to  uprgade
[02:47] <_4strO> boubbin: or i the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <boubbin> ok
[02:48] <Bluetooth> shinobi it says nothing, totally quiet
[02:48] <shinobi_> Bluetooth then it isn't adding the key for some reason
[02:49] <Bluetooth> aaaaaa it's all because of misspell
[02:49] <Bluetooth> :)
[02:49] <Bluetooth> it found repos now
[02:49] <_4strO> Bluetooth: for the GPG error, it isn't a pb, it's just an advertisement
[02:50] <Section31> Yay, upgrade to Kububtu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn went successfully!
[02:50] <_4strO> but he will wheck the repo
[02:50] <_4strO> check*
[02:50] <Section31> A PC
[02:50] <shinobi_> _4strO failed to write cache on font install/unistall with apt-get
[02:50] <_4strO> athena: my bro will come soon :) i will ask him to refresh my memory :)
[02:50] <mocker> Does Kubuntu include a desktop search?
[02:51] <_4strO> shinobi ?
[02:51] <athena> ok cool
[02:51] <_4strO> after doing what ?
[02:51] <shinobi_> _4strO does that mean anything to you? i just did apt-get install ipafont
[02:51] <_4strO> athena: but i still think everything just ggod for you, just a config pb
[02:51] <shinobi_> _4strO it wouldn't write the cache, and now it won't install either
[02:52] <_4strO> shinobiweird
[02:52] <_4strO> shinobi:weird
[02:52] <shinobi_> _4strO it's my second attempt at feisty install i wrote over the last one because of this issue
[02:53] <shinobi_> _4strO makes slow the whole thing down
[02:53] <shawn34> Daisuke_Ido, I can't get any of the downloads to start for xubuntu
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> torrent :)
[02:53] <lag_3d> hey, where is the "show windows from all desktops" option in kcontrol / panel / taskbar?
[02:53] <shawn34> i know
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> aaaand i'm off
[02:53] <shawn34> Daisuke_Ido, torrent file wont download
[02:53] <athena> ok thanks heaps will wait patiently..
[02:54] <shinobi_>  feisty
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> lag_3d: right click taskbar, configure panel > taskbar
[02:56] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: yes, that's the usual location, but are you sure you see that in the feisty kde?
[02:56] <_4strO> shinobi: i dont have this package
[02:56] <boubbin> how to check what version of kubuntu im using atm ?
[02:57] <_4strO> boubbin: lsb_release -a
[02:57] <boubbin> thx
[02:58] <lag_3d> boubbin: in a console, try "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> lag_3d: i'm absolutely positive, i'm using it
[02:59] <_4strO> shinobi: so where does the ipafont package come from ?
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> and now i have to run before i'm late for class.  this late in the semester i don't particularly care, but hey, final review :D
[02:59] <shinobi_> _4strO regular repos i guess, i have it on this machine that is under edgy
[03:00] <_4strO> ha ok :p i'm on feisty,
[03:00] <shinobi_> _4strO it's for east asian language display
[03:00] <shinobi_> _4strO i anm having this problem on feisty
[03:00] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: that is very very very strange
[03:01] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: i just don't find that particular option -- everything ELSE is there, except for this particular option+checkbox
[03:01] <shinobi_> _4strO works under edgy, and weird issue with all fonts under feisty seems like a problem
[03:02] <_4strO> shinobi : apt-cache search ipafont >> nothing for me
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> lag_3d: are you using beryl?
[03:03] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[03:03] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: don't say this is the reason! :))
[03:03] <chandra> Looking to upgrade to FF from EE.  I run adept and it gets to the point that it says to click Finish to close adept and begin.  I click on Finish and nothing happens after that point.
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> lag_3d: there's the problem, beryl drops you to one virtual desktop
[03:03] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: anyway, it's cool that you thought of that
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> so the option doesn't show
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl actually uses viewports rather than desktops and kde's not too swift with that yet :\
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry
[03:04] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: ping
[03:05] <lag_3d> Daisuke_Ido: cool that i know that (anyway, it should still show the option)
[03:05] <shinobi_> _4strO its only in japanese repo, but not relevant. this is for all and any fonts.
[03:06] <_4strO> shinobi_: i have installed ms font for exemple, without any pb
[03:08] <shinobi_> _4strO yeah strange as https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[03:08] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: ?
[03:08] <_4strO> shinobi_: perhaps try apt-get installl ... without X server on
[03:09] <shinobi_> _4strO okay
[03:09] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: do u want to install them ?
[03:09] <shinobi_> Jucato ... font cache write error on feisty ... any thoughts
[03:09] <boubbin> yeah
[03:10] <Cem_UNAL> one min.
[03:10] <_4strO> Jucato: are you there ?
[03:10] <Jucato> shinobi_: eh?
[03:10] <Jucato> sorry no idea
[03:10] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: how did you do that ?
[03:10] <Jucato> _4strO: nope. I'm just a figment of someone's perverted imagination :/
[03:10] <kingcobra> hello
[03:10] <_4strO> loool Jucato
[03:10] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: coming soon :)
[03:10] <boubbin> ok
[03:11] <kingcobra> can somebody please tell me is there a gui method of installing kde on ubuntu
[03:11] <_4strO> Jucato: can you help athena to play avi files
[03:11] <_4strO> Jucato: she as all packages required
[03:11] <Jucato> kingcobra: install the package kubuntu-desktop using Synaptic
[03:11] <_4strO> (i think)
[03:11] <chandra> Looking to upgrade to FF from EE.  I run adept and it gets to the point that it says to click Finish to close adept and begin.  I click on Finish and nothing happens after that point.
[03:11] <_4strO> but still not workin
[03:12] <_4strO> Jucato: mp3 works fine in xmms
[03:12] <Jucato> chandra: have you restarted Adept?
[03:12] <chandra> yes
[03:12] <chandra> should I see something diff after restarting it?
[03:12] <Jucato> _4strO: xmms uses it's own codecs. xine has different stuff.
[03:12] <_4strO> Jucato: xmms use alsa by default
[03:13] <Jucato> chandra: after restarting Adept, click on Fetch Updates again, then you'll be informed that there's a new version available. that happened?
[03:13] <_4strO> jucato, it's the second time i install all packages needed and then nothing
[03:13] <Jucato> _4strO: talking about codecs and engines. alsa isn't a multimedia engine
[03:13] <chandra> jucato: yes...I got to that point.  It finally said to click on Finish to close Adept.  I did that and Adept remained open and nothing else happened.
[03:13] <kingcobra> Jucato, got disconnected there
[03:14] <Jucato> chandra: hm... try closing Adept?
[03:14] <chandra> jucato:  yes...I've repeated this whole process a couple of times
[03:14] <_4strO> Jucato: ok and xine is a multimedia engine too isnt it ?
[03:14] <kingcobra> also does anybody know that command unamer for checking kernel version
[03:14] <Jucato> _4strO: yes. amarok and kaffeine use xine
[03:14] <Jucato> kingcobra: uname -r
[03:14] <_4strO> kingcobra: uname -a
[03:15] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: did u do that --> sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy-kernel-source && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings
[03:15] <_4strO> :p
[03:15] <Jucato> chandra: btw, are you using KDE 3.5.6 on Edgy?
[03:15] <kingcobra> or even better a way to check it with gui?
[03:15] <boubbin> im unable to raise my screens refresh rate like i want, how to fix ?
[03:15] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: no i didnt
[03:15] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: this is first ^
[03:15] <chandra> jucato: yes, 3.5.6
[03:15] <boubbin> i havent installed anything yet
[03:15] <boubbin> yeah, i have to do this later, im on a hurry atm.
[03:15] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: give this comment
[03:15] <_4strO> boubbin: by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <JuhazOne> hmmh. i've been trying to get 1600x1200 resolution in my new feisty installation but i'm not able to...
[03:16] <boubbin> Cem_UNAL: can you please send all to priv ?
[03:16] <boubbin> _4strO: ok
[03:16] <kingcobra> Jucato, do you know what section it is in synaptic
[03:16] <Jucato> chandra: did you add the special repo for 3.5.6? It's mentioned in the release notes for Feisty
[03:16] <_4strO> athena: bad news
[03:16] <boubbin> JuhazOne: did you set your monitor to the correct one ?
[03:16] <JuhazOne> yup
[03:16] <boubbin> JuhazOne: i have the same problem atm.
[03:16] <chandra> jucato: I'll have to check.
[03:16] <Cem_UNAL> boubbin: give me ur e-mail ?
[03:16] <_4strO> athena: my bro didn(t do anything more i had done
[03:16] <JuhazOne> i tried replacing the autogenerated xorg.conf with the one from my old dapper installation but i got complaints about missing driver "nvidia"
[03:16] <Jucato> kingcobra: um linux-image most probably... but it will only show you what kernels are installed, not what you are currently using
[03:16] <kingcobra> _4strO, do you know is there a way to check version with gui
[03:16] <_4strO> kingcobra: nop
[03:17] <JuhazOne> so i installed linux-restricted-drivers-<kernel> that usually has helped... but this time it didn't
[03:17] <_4strO> kingcobra: in adept you can by search kernel ;)
[03:17] <boubbin> JuhazOne: i think its "nv" in feisty
[03:17] <JuhazOne> and now the monitor & display section in kde system settings won't even show up :(
[03:17] <Jucato> _4strO: that will only show what kernels are installed, not the kernel being used at the time
[03:17] <_4strO> kingcobra: but you will have every kernel installed on your computer
[03:17] <JuhazOne> boubbin: i'm not sure either, but i'm under the impression that nv is the free driver and nvidia the proprietary one
[03:18] <_4strO> Jucato: right ;)
[03:18] <kingcobra> Jucato, i meant which section is kubuntu desktop package in
[03:18] <Jucato> kingcobra: it's in main
[03:18] <Jucato> so that should be available/visible immediately
[03:19] <francesca> hi, i'm trying to download kubuntu feisty (dvd) torrent but the tracker seems to be down... does anyone have the same problem?
[03:19] <chandra> jucato: nope...I hadn't.  Just did and am rerunning adept again.
[03:20] <kingcobra> Jucato, in synaptic theres base system communication cross platform ... and each of them have a multiverse universe etc section
[03:20] <chandra> jucato: Same behavior as before.  It tells me there's an update, it downloads the updater, says to click Finish...then nothing else happens
[03:20] <JuhazOne> hmh. any ideas how to get 1600x1200?
[03:21] <mackyman> Hello ppl!
[03:21] <mackyman> How can I check wich dev my soundcard have?
[03:21] <eumel> kubuntu runs fine :)
[03:22] <eumel> thx
[03:23] <zblach> !truecrypt
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <icecruncher> anybody know how to upgrade to feisty using the alternate cd?
[03:28] <kingcobra> Jucato, kubuntu desktop is in meta packages
[03:28] <kingcobra> in synaptic
[03:28] <Jucato> ah ok
[03:29] <mathilde> Salut
[03:29] <icecruncher> hi
[03:30] <eumel> cya
[03:31] <canen> hello all
[03:32] <icecruncher> hello
[03:33] <canen> trying to upgrade to fiesty here but after adept downloads the upgrade tool and says "Click finish to close adept manager and start the upgrade tool", I click finish but nothing happens
[03:33] <canen> any pointers?
[03:36] <athena> _4stro how do i install real player on ubuntu?
[03:43] <athena> Can anyone assist in installing real player on ubuntu not is synaptic package manager
[03:43] <JuhazOne> great, i had a locale problem but i got it fixed \o/
[03:43] <canen> athena: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:43] <Jucato> !realplayer
[03:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <JuhazOne> now if i only got the full resolution that this monitor supports... :/
[03:43] <canen> anyone having problems with the upgrade tool or lack thereof?
[03:43] <reagleBRKLN> have others noted that feisty mounts external harddrives sync? I wonder how to change that.
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, how do i update to feisty fawn in adept....
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> i get the message to upgrade... but when i click finish... nothing happens
[03:49] <shinobi_> Jucato _4strO woohoo, it was a question of xargs with those fonts, what a nightmare
[03:50] <replman> Hi! I always read, that it is so simple to install things with ubuntu (berly, mp3, ...) with "Applications -> Add/Remove -> ... -> Ubuntu restricted extras". Didn't they also put those things in kubuntu?
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[03:52] <admin___> i
[03:53] <MidMark> how can I change clock font?
[03:54] <MidMark> ForzaPalermo: retry
[03:54] <ForzaPalermo> i did
[03:54] <ForzaPalermo> many times
[03:54] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, it doesnt exit and upgrade period
[03:54] <MidMark> do you kave lde 3.5.6?
[03:54] <Shadow-> hey . i try to download the dvd iso from a torrent under: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/ , which is as a link the kubuntu homepage, but the home page isnt available. any other torrent , or http link with the final dvd realase ?
[03:54] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, on either one of my kubuntu machines
[03:54] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, kde 3.5.6 yes
[03:54] <MidMark> ForzaPalermo: have you installed first fake 3.5.6?
[03:55] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, i dont know
[03:55] <MidMark> !feisty
[03:55] <ubotu> FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/
[03:55] <MidMark> sorry
[03:55] <MidMark> !upgrade
[03:55] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[03:55] <MidMark> ForzaPalermo: wait
[03:55] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, ok
[03:56] <tictactatic> hey, mackyman did you succeed in upgrading?
[03:56] <MidMark> ForzaPalermo: oh yes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading see "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)"
[03:56] <MidMark> there is an extra passage before upgrading to Feisty for people that has kde 3.5.6
[03:59] <MidMark> how can I change clock font? Default one is very bad
[03:59] <Shadow-> MidMark,  what u gave me in the links are cd and not dvd
[03:59] <shinobi_> MidMark right click it
[03:59] <Jucato> MidMark: right-click -> Configure Clock
[03:59] <abattoir> MidMark: rt. click->Configure Clock
[03:59] <abattoir> beat ya... atleast on my screen ;)
[03:59] <MidMark> Jucato: yes but there is no font to choose
[04:00] <MidMark> Shadow-: what?
[04:00] <Shadow-> isnt there any dvd available like it was with 6.10 . just cd releases on feisty ?
[04:00] <Jucato> MidMark: what type of clock is being used?
[04:00] <Shadow-> MidMark,  i said that there is no dvd iso included in the list , but just cd to download
[04:00] <Shadow-> i want a dvd iso release
[04:00] <MidMark> digital one, no date only clock
[04:01] <MidMark> Shadow-: I was answering to ForzaPalermo
[04:01] <shinobi_> MidMark cahnge to plain
[04:01] <Jucato> MidMark: ah then it's not using a font at all for the time. it's a digital type
[04:01] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, i see it
[04:01] <Shadow-> so . no link for download ? :)
[04:01] <ForzaPalermo> its aobut kde 3.5.7
[04:01] <ForzaPalermo> 3.5.6
[04:01] <abattoir> MidMark: you could change it to a plain clock, and then choose another digital font(like i do)
[04:01] <ForzaPalermo> ForzaPalermo, i added it to my repo and am installing that
[04:01] <abattoir> ForzaPalermo: speaking to yourself? :P
[04:02] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, lol yes
[04:02] <abattoir> *talking to, rather
[04:02] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, is that what you were talking about?
[04:02] <MidMark> ForzaPalermo: kde 3.5.6 really 3.5.5 is a fake 3.5.6 to let you back to kde 3.5.5 and upgrade after to Feisty
[04:03] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, ok hope this works
[04:03] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, do i need to restart after it installs
[04:03] <MidMark> don't know
[04:03] <MidMark> I did
[04:03] <MidMark> abattoir: oh yes was plain in my Edgy thanx
[04:06] <ForzaPalermo> MidMark, ok well im ognnna restart
[04:06] <ForzaPalermo> oops
[04:06] <ForzaPalermo> no need
[04:06] <ForzaPalermo> working now without it
[04:06] <ForzaPalermo> thanks midmark!
[04:11] <BluesKaj> still trying to figure out how to make X shutdown when I logout . Doing the 'sudo shutdown -h now' is ok , but the fact that logout isn't working properly, bugs me
[04:11] <marcreichelt> hiho
[04:11] <marcreichelt> an hour ago, I started the upgrade from Kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04
[04:12] <marcreichelt> but I had to close the update program again because I had to go to another room
[04:12] <Jucato> BluesKaj: how is logout not working properly?
[04:12] <marcreichelt> and now I can't start adept_updater anymore (apt locked)
[04:12] <marcreichelt> what should I do?
[04:12] <Jucato> !adeptfix
[04:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:12] <osberto> Hi
[04:13] <osberto> speak spanish_
[04:13] <Jucato> !es | osberto
[04:13] <ubotu> osberto: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:14] <BluesKaj> Jucato, X keeps cycling off then on withthe kubuntu logo and the progress bar
[04:14] <marcreichelt> hmm
[04:14] <pnutbttr> did anyone else attempt to install the new kubuntu this morning
[04:14] <Jucato> BluesKaj: oh...
[04:15] <marcreichelt> ubotu: apache2 and libc6-i686 are damaged
[04:15] <Jucato> marcreichelt: ubotu's a bot :)
[04:15] <marcreichelt> oh
[04:15] <marcreichelt> yes
[04:15] <marcreichelt> I see now ;)
[04:16] <shinobi> brave new world
[04:17] <pnutbttr> im just wondering if anyone knows the status of the adept servers , whether they may speed up at some point
[04:17] <marcreichelt> anyway - the dependencies seem to be crashed
[04:17] <marcreichelt> apache2 and libc6-686
[04:18] <marcreichelt> if I run adept-updater on it, what will it do?
[04:18] <ForzaPalermo> i cant upgrade :(
[04:18] <ForzaPalermo> i get this error Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[04:19] <marcreichelt> how can I start the dist-upgrader?
[04:19] <marcreichelt> manually?
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> ForzaPalermo: right now many servers are getting hammered, I cant even download some source code to apply a patch because my local mirror is swamped
[04:22] <marcreichelt> the dist-upgrade program has started automatically as I updated my files the last time
[04:22] <marcreichelt> but how can I start it by hand?
[04:22] <marcreichelt> right now it does not seem to start anymore...
[04:23] <BluesKaj>  marcreichelt, in the Konsole : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-update
[04:23] <marcreichelt> oh
[04:23] <marcreichelt> great
[04:23] <Jucato> that's not the dist-upgrade tool though
[04:24] <marcreichelt> for that one, adept_updater is better
[04:24] <zblach> hi. has anyone had any degree of success installing TrueCrypt in the feisty release?
[04:24] <marcreichelt> but I'm searching for the GUI dist-upgrade program
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Jucato, what is the dist upgrade tool ?
[04:24] <Jucato> marcreichelt: run Adept Manager and click on Fetch Updates. it should trigger the dist-upgrade tool
[04:25] <marcreichelt> Jucato: that's the problem
[04:25] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the new GUI tool that will automate upgrading to a new release
[04:25] <BluesKaj> iif his repos oare set to feisty shouldn't the Konsole cmnd work ?
[04:25] <marcreichelt> I closed the dist upgrade during download
[04:26] <Jucato> BluesKaj: *if* they are set. yes. with the new dist-upgrade tool, it will automatically change the correct repositories and temporarily disable 3rd-party/unofficial repositories
[04:26] <marcreichelt> but anyway - an upgrade to Feisty will not remove the files from my home directory
[04:26] <Jucato> marcreichelt: yes it won't
[04:27] <marcreichelt> in the worst case I have to backup the files manually and install Feisty by hand hen
[04:27] <marcreichelt> then
[04:28] <piop> why would you even take the risk of messing up your system of doing a 20 hour upgrade, that doesnt sounds like linux to me
[04:28] <BluesKaj> IC Jucato, I wasn't aware of the 'New GUI Tool' . Where does that reside, within adept ?
[04:28] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's tied to Adept, yes. but not really part of Adept afaik
[04:28] <Jucato> marcreichelt: you can't run Adept Manager again?
[04:28] <lerneaen_hydra> random question: have many people had issues with the 7.04 upgrade (from 6.10), or is it relatively safe (as safe as a dist-upgrade can be that is)
[04:28] <marcreichelt> yes
[04:29] <Jucato> !adeptfix | marcreichelt
[04:29] <ubotu> marcreichelt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:29] <piop> i just cant let my computer be unusable for that long
[04:30] <piop> dowenloading at 22k
[04:30] <marcreichelt> lerneaen_hydra: if you don't have to cancel the upgrade, it should work
[04:30] <ingodonots> hi guys
[04:30] <marcreichelt> Jucato: the update with adept_updater does work now
[04:30] <ingodonots> i can'y upgrade to feisty
[04:30] <lerneaen_hydra> marcreichelt: ah, ok
[04:30] <marcreichelt> thanks
[04:31] <ingodonots> adept say to me that there is a new version
[04:31] <marcreichelt> I'm excited if the upgrade works properly
[04:31] <Jucato> marcreichelt: adept_updater or adept_manager?
[04:31] <marcreichelt> adept_updater
[04:31] <Jucato> afaik, adept_updater won't launch the dist-upgrade tool
[04:31] <piop> me too, but as i said, even on dsl it said that it would take 20 hours
[04:31] <ingodonots> i follow the instructions
[04:31] <marcreichelt> oh
[04:31] <marcreichelt> k ;)
[04:31] <marcreichelt> right now it is updating all packages
[04:32] <PP188> how do i see if is ubuntu or kubuntu? help me
[04:32] <ingodonots> then adept say that i have to click on finish to lounche the upgrade tool
[04:32] <ingodonots> but when i click on finish nothing happens
[04:32] <ingodonots> what can i do?
[04:33] <PP188> how do i see if is ubuntu or kubuntu? help me
[04:33] <Last_Hero> man, Kubuntu is ACE. First distro I've ever tried that has flawlessly detected and worked with both my wireless card and my soundcard. I'm running on the LiveCD just now, but Kubuntu is makin' me consider a dual boot.  Just though you might like to hear :p
[04:33] <shinobi> PP188 does it show ubuntu while booting?
[04:33] <ingodonots> help please !
[04:33] <kcoleman> go dual - i've got dual boot on this machine
[04:33] <ingodonots> i'm so sad
[04:33] <kcoleman> really easy to setup
[04:34] <marcreichelt> PP188: if you see a blue 'K' logo in the bottom left corner you should use kubuntu
[04:34] <kcoleman> make sure you've got XP installed 1st b4 u go dual
[04:34] <PP188> shinobi: no, its kubuntu in booting
[04:34] <kcoleman> or download gpart and partition that drive
[04:34] <Last_Hero> kcoleman, its only an 80gig drive though, so I'm not sure about the capacity, and yeah, XP is already installed
[04:34] <PP188> shinobi: no, its kubuntu in boot
[04:35] <kcoleman> last - i've got a 60gb drive on this lappy
[04:35] <kcoleman> 40gb for XP, 20 gb for Kubuntu
[04:35] <Hc\\> i got 30/30 O.o
[04:35] <kcoleman> install ntfs3g and u can access all ur files on ur XP partition
[04:35] <Hc\\> but windows i got as fat32
[04:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a command line program to connect to wireless networks? I use wlassistant right now, the gui
[04:35] <Last_Hero> sweet, ntfs support?
[04:35] <PP188> shinobi: when run "lsb_release -a" in konsole... its show ubuntu.... is right?
[04:36] <kcoleman> detto - i was kwlan gui - best ive used so far
[04:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks kcoleman
[04:36] <kcoleman> ya last - i keep most of my media on my XP drive and i can access my music from it
[04:36] <Last_Hero> If I did a duel boot I'd only be using XP for games and programs that need XP such as Visio
[04:36] <kcoleman> last - of course
[04:37] <BluesKaj> PP188, yes
[04:37] <shinobi> PP188 seems like kubuntu
[04:37] <PP188> BluesKaj: so i use ubuntu
[04:37] <kcoleman> you can install wine and see if u can get those programs working within kubuntu, but it will take some configuration
[04:37] <Last_Hero> which would probably speed up my boot time if I removed all the crap that I've stuck into my XP install
[04:37] <PP188> BluesKaj: *so i use ubuntu?
[04:37] <sempai> re
[04:37] <lerneaen_hydra> any simple way to check the version of KDE that's running?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> no sorry, PP188 ...It doesn't ...I was wrong
[04:37] <Last_Hero> well, Oblivion is pretty taxing to my system as it is, so I don't think emulation is the way to go :p
[04:37] <Jucato> lerneaen_hydra: in any KDE app -> Help menu -> About KDE
[04:37] <kcoleman> lern - most likely ur running some version of KDE 3.5.X
[04:37] <lerneaen_hydra> oh, nm
[04:37] <lerneaen_hydra> yeah
[04:38] <PP188> BluesKaj: so.. how is it?
[04:38] <lerneaen_hydra> jsut found it, I didn't see it last time
[04:38] <BluesKaj> PP188, I'm using Kubuntu , and that cmnd only showed ubuntu for me as well
[04:39] <sempai> bye..
[04:39] <PP188> BluesKaj: right... why ?
[04:39] <PP188> BluesKaj: how do i know what?
[04:40] <lerneaen_hydra> hmm, how do you start the graphical update program, it doesn't start when starting adept and all packages are updated
[04:40] <BluesKaj> PP188, right click on the blue "K" if you have one in the bottom left ...that means you have KDE desktop , which is Kubuntu
[04:40] <canen> i am running the upgrade tool and it is telling me to free up some space on /boot
[04:40] <canen> this is the output of du -h * on boot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16567/
[04:41] <canen> what is safe to remove? kernel being used is 2.6.17-11-386
[04:41] <canen> don't want to go and mess anything up
[04:42] <pulaski> hello
[04:42] <PP188> BluesKaj: but if i am using gnome? i know its wrong, but i'm begginer
[04:43] <Shifty> Canen, I would be careful about removing older kernels if you have compiled programs that use those older kernels.
[04:43] <Shifty> if not, you can remove them.
[04:43] <canen> Shifty:  none that i know of
[04:43] <BluesKaj> ok PP188 , do you see a blue "K" in the bottom left corner of the desktop ?
[04:43] <Shifty> Then you should be good to go.
[04:43] <canen> i am going to see if there is a clean way since grub will also need to be updated
[04:43] <pulaski> apdept crashed on me last night and now my database is locked.  I have no adept, apt-get or aptitude processes yet kubuntu thinks I do and its database remains locked.  I would be grateful for any suggestions.
[04:44] <PP188> BluesKaj: no
[04:45] <cheeseboy> how do i install SDL?
[04:45] <PP188> BluesKaj: is it kde, isnt it?
[04:45] <PP188> BluesKaj: sorry.. *its kde, isnt it?
[04:45] <Jucato> !adeptfix | pulaski
[04:45] <ubotu> pulaski: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:45] <kcoleman> pulaski - sounds pretty dumb but have u tried turning ur pc off and back on again?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> KDE desktop is the K part of kubuntu , if you are running gnome its ubuntu
[04:46] <pulaski> thank you ubotu
[04:47] <pulaski> I'll try it
[04:47] <cloakable> O.o
[04:47] <JuhazOne> hm. what am i doing wrong when kdm displays the login screen properly in 1600x1200 resolution but won't let me use it after i've logged in?
[04:47] <PP188> BluesKaj: but in my boot its kubuntu
[04:47] <cheeseboy> how do i install SDL?
[04:48] <BluesKaj> did you right click on the K in the bottom left corner of the desktop/menu editor/about ...
[04:48] <Shifty> If anyone is thinking or has to install a virtual machine, I have had great success with InnoTek's VirtualBox
[04:48] <cheeseboy> help?
[04:49] <smart> Hey did some one try before to use utorrent on wine
[04:49] <russ33> hi
[04:49] <Jucato> cheeseboy: what do you need sdl for?
[04:49] <russ33> how do i upgrade to 7.04? is it just a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:49] <kcoleman> smart: y not jsut use ktorrent?
[04:50] <russ33> or do i have to download and install the whole CD?
[04:50] <PP188> BluesKaj: have not K
[04:50] <kcoleman> russ: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[04:50] <CapaH> I am not sure whether or not I have 64 bit or 32 bit version (not sure which version was on the CD I installed from) --- can anyone here tell me how to find this out?
[04:50] <russ33> oh cool
[04:50] <smart> kcoleman, i dont think tht aktorrent is good ...is it ?
[04:50] <Jucato> russ33: near the bottom of the Release Announcement page, there are instructions to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty
[04:50] <smart> that*
[04:50] <russ33> thanks
[04:50] <cheeseboy> Jucato sdlmess (nes emulator)
[04:50] <russ33> i really should pay more attention
[04:51] <russ33> lol
[04:51] <Jucato> cheeseboy: trying to compile it?
[04:51] <cheeseboy> yes
[04:51] <cheeseboy> but sdl is a requirement
[04:51] <kcoleman> smart: it works just fine for me - u can set ur ports to forward and whatnot
[04:52] <Jucato> cheeseboy: install libsdl-dev
[04:52] <smart> kcoleman, my bad luck i must to set it manualy
[04:52] <kcoleman> its not like a torrent downloader has much configs to mess with anyway
[04:52] <kcoleman> just set ur port and forward it on ur router
[04:53] <smart> kcoleman, i am not the router any way i will try
[04:53] <kcoleman> smart: "ur not the router?" i'm not sure what ur saying?
[04:54] <canen> after cleaning up boot this thing is still asking for 686k, just not my day
[04:55] <kcoleman> canen
[04:55] <kcoleman> just delete one song
[04:55] <kcoleman> haha
[04:55] <canen> it asking for space on boot
[04:55] <kcoleman> o shit - thats different
[04:55] <CapaH> I need to know if I am running Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit -- how can I find this out?
[04:55] <smart> kcoleman, Never mind
[04:55] <russ33> is there a command i can type on the command line to see what version of kubuntu im currently running? im not sure if this has been upgraded to 7.04 already
[04:55] <kcoleman> capaH - is ur processor 32 or 64
[04:55] <kcoleman> most liekly ur 32
[04:55] <cloakable> CapaH: uname -r :)
[04:55] <CapaH> My proc is 64
[04:56] <CapaH> uname -r just says 2.6.20-15-generic
[04:56] <cloakable> Then you're probably 64bit
[04:56] <cloakable> Ahh
[04:56] <shinobi> CapaHso is mine but i run 32 bit distro
[04:56] <CapaH> the thing is, the cd I installed from I dont think was 64 bit
[04:56] <kcoleman> 32 will still run on a 64platform
[04:57] <canen> CapaH: does lsb_release -a help?
[04:57] <russ33> anyone know?
[04:57] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is it possible to boot another distro that you already have installed, then mount the Kubuntu ISO, and run the installer script to install Kubuntu into another partition on that computer?
[04:57] <russ33> i just want to find out what version of kubuntu ive got here
[04:58] <canen> russ33: see above lsb_release
[04:58] <Jucato> russ33: lsb_release -a
[04:58] <WillLuongo> Hello, can anyone tell me what I need to do to be able to rip CD's with KAudioCreator?
[04:58] <russ33> oh right
[04:58] <russ33> lol
[04:58] <russ33> thanks
[04:58] <smart> kcoleman, i can complete downloads wich downloaded with other clients with ktorrent right
[04:58] <russ33> didnt realise that was for me
[04:58] <russ33> many thanks
[04:58] <canen> smart: using a plugin, yes
[04:58] <smart> canen,ok
[04:58] <sylvisj> Ok, first off
[04:58] <sylvisj> how can I re-set what my keyboard is?
[04:59] <jeffreyp90> hey everyone
[04:59] <WillLuongo> busfarer, I do not think so. But you can brun it to a cd and use that to install Kubuntu onto another partition.
[04:59] <sylvisj> having my single quotation mark make letters into tt is annoying
[04:59] <canen> sylvisj: system settings
[04:59] <smart> canen, i got it :)
[04:59] <jeffreyp90> can someone help me
[04:59] <sylvisj> ok, one more thing
[04:59] <sylvisj> Sudo, never used it before
[04:59] <kcoleman> sudo = super user
[04:59] <sylvisj> I supposed to just give it the user password?
[05:00] <cheeseboy> ugh theres no ay to install sdlmess
[05:00] <canen> jeffreyp90: ask a the question first :)
[05:00] <WillLuongo> sylvisj no use root password
[05:00] <kcoleman>  sudo -s, brings u to root
[05:00] <pclinux> hello
[05:00] <Jucato> cheeseboy: did you install libsdl-dev already?
[05:00] <canen> kcoleman: su = super user, sudo = super user powers
[05:00] <sylvisj> that great... but what is the root password supposed to be? Like, where was it set? The installer just made user password
[05:00] <jeffreyp90> I have lost the top panel in konqueror (file, Edit, bookmarks...)
[05:00] <shinobi> WillLuongothere is no root passwd in k/ubuntu
[05:00] <kcoleman> ok  - canen 1 kcoleman 0
[05:00] <jeffreyp90> how can I get it back
[05:00] <smart> canen, after loading the plugin do i just open the torrent and save it where i already saved it before
[05:01] <Jucato> sylvisj: there is no root password on Kubuntu
[05:01] <Jucato> !sudo | sylvisj
[05:01] <ubotu> sylvisj: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <cheeseboy>  Jucato yes but i have no idea how to install the source
[05:01] <WillLuongo> shinobi, I believe you can change the password for superuser to a password different than your user password, no?
[05:01] <pclinux> sudo -i
[05:01] <kcoleman> jeff - are u running beryl?
[05:01] <athena> jucato i tried to following sudo cmmand but it failed
[05:01] <canen> smart: no go to the partially downloaded file. ktorrent will do the rest
[05:01] <Jucato> !compile | cheeseboy
[05:01] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:01] <jeffreyp90> no
[05:01] <athena> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[05:01] <sylvisj> jucato, sudo apt-get install firefox asks for a password.
[05:01] <canen> smart: there should be an import menu item
[05:01] <Jucato> sylvisj: yes. *your* password
[05:01] <cheeseboy>  Jucato ive tried that way
[05:01] <smart> canen, ok
[05:02] <CapaH> Question, where can I get Kubuntu ISO ? I have found Ubuntu ISOs -- I am looking for kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. ?
[05:02] <wirr> jeffreyp90: press CTRL-M
[05:02] <CapaH> ( I have an incomplete version )
[05:02] <sylvisj> ok, I gonna just shut up about that now, forgot which password I was using...
[05:02] <smart> canen, found it
[05:02] <jeffreyp90> you are a godsend, thanks
[05:02] <WillLuongo> Can anyone help me get audio ripping in KAudioCreator?
[05:02] <wirr> np ;)
[05:02] <canen> WillLuongo: what's the problem
[05:03] <sylvisj> And thanks for helping me get my ' back
[05:03] <cloakable> WillLuongo: type audiocd:/ in lonqueror :)
[05:03] <cloakable> *konqueror
[05:03] <cheeseboy>  Jucato it only has a makefile.sdl
[05:03] <WillLuongo> canen: all the options are greyed out for encoding. I am thinking I need some other packages?
[05:03] <Jucato> !ripping | WillLuongo
[05:03] <ubotu> WillLuongo: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[05:03] <canen> yeah,
[05:04] <yotux> why is apt warning about  authenticated packages?
[05:04] <canen> WillLuongo:  search for filetyenc, e.g oggenc
[05:04] <Jucato> cheeseboy: you'll have to either read the docs that comes with the source code or ask in sdlmess' channel/forums/mailing list
[05:05] <shinobi> yotux gpg keys
[05:05] <yotux> I have a stock install and it didn't include gpg keys?
[05:05] <mackyman> tictactatic: Yep, worked flawlessly
[05:05] <yotux> I will look into getting them
[05:05] <WillLuongo> canen, I cannot find either of those packages.
[05:06] <smart> canen. how to set the port
[05:06] <athena> can some help me with the installtion of codecs for either Totem or Kaffeine PLEASE.. Pretty PLEASE..
[05:06] <canen> WillLuongo: sudo apt-get install vorbis-tools flac lame
[05:06] <smart> canen. how to add a one
[05:06] <WillLuongo> canen, ty!
[05:06] <canen> WillLuongo: that should cover most cases
[05:07] <shinobi> athena are you still no winning
[05:07] <athena> no luck here about to give up
[05:07] <tictactatic> mackyman: good to hear that... mine seems to be going well
[05:07] <athena> but i have to try
[05:07] <canen> smart: not too sure what you are asking
[05:07] <shinobi> athena have you looked at the restricted formats page of ubuntu forums
[05:07] <smart> canen, never mind :) i got it
[05:08] <athena> yes but when i try to run an apt command it returns an error.
[05:08] <MPKFA> hi... is there a way to simulate left mouse click in kde? some console comand or smtn to send click! :)
[05:08] <canen> smart: the UPnP plugin is a nice one to load
[05:08] <kcoleman> smart: on ktorrent setting you set the port...then you go to ur router setup and u must forward that port on ur ip address to get better d/l speeds
[05:08] <wolferine> is there an easy way (w/o losing data) to allocate more space for my / partition?
[05:08] <shinobi> athena what error? that is another issue than the codecs, i suspect your codecs are indeed not installed okay
[05:08] <kcoleman> smart: canen is right - but ur router must be configured to be able to use it
[05:09] <athena> hold on
[05:09] <smart> kcoleman, ok but i am not the router
[05:09] <smart> kcoleman, i am not the owner
[05:09] <kcoleman> ok there in lies the problem
[05:09] <athena> root@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[05:09] <athena> Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <athena> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:09] <athena> Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:09] <athena> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:09] <athena> is only available from another source
[05:09] <athena> E: Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll has no installation candidate
[05:09] <smart> kcoleman, so i have to disable the upnp to manually forward the port
[05:10] <kcoleman> no - keep it enabled
[05:10] <kcoleman> u might just score one for the home team
[05:10] <pulaski> boy that was perfect ubotu.  The command told me what was wrong, how to fix it and then is seemed adept just picked up where it left off. Thats pretty sophisticated, THANKS A LOT.
[05:11] <kcoleman> there really is no way to get better download speeds if u dont have access to the router
[05:11] <shinobi> athena okay. you are missing repositories i guess
[05:12] <athena> I went thru synaptic as suggested in the doco and added the respositories
[05:12] <N0Lif3|lappy> wow, I just learned that pressing F8 while in Konqueror opens a Konsole session on the bottom. That's good integration.
[05:12] <shinobi> athena are they downloading okay? can you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list via the pastebin?
[05:13] <pulaski> I copied the command.  I'll have to man fuser and learn what it does with the options -vki.  thanks again subotu
[05:13] <athena> sure
[05:13] <MrWGW-> congratulations on shipping Feisty
[05:14] <athena> have to file in there do you want to see both?
[05:14] <MrWGW-> I was also thrilled to read that Michael Dell, who I much admire, uses it
[05:14] <smart> kcoleman, didnt get you
[05:14] <athena> ## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 6.06 LTS "dapper drake"
[05:14] <athena> ## Please report any bug on https://launchpad.net/products/medibuntu/+bugs
[05:14] <athena> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[05:14] <athena> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[05:14] <shinobi> athena only one should be sources.list
[05:14] <Jucato> !pastebin | athena
[05:14] <ubotu> athena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <athena> ok
[05:15] <shinobi> athena ubotu Jucato that's pastebin
[05:15] <Jucato> shinobi: ubotu's a bot. and yes I know that's pastebin
[05:15] <Kr4t05> "According to Michael Dell's lineup of personal rigs, his prized Precision M90 is currently humming along with a copy of Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn at the helm..." --engadget
[05:15] <Jucato> shinobi: it's for athena not to flood the channel
[05:16] <Kr4t05> Chalk one up for success. :)
[05:16] <shinobi> Jucato that's why i mentioned it earlier when i asked for the sources.list
[05:16] <shinobi> wink
[05:16] <athena> it in the paste bin sorry for flooding the page guys
[05:17] <shinobi> athena can you send the link of the pastebin?
[05:17] <Jucato> athena: what's the URL to what you pastebin'ed? give it to shinobi
[05:17] <shinobi> athena in the address bar of the browser after you submitted
[05:17] <athena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16578/
[05:18] <shinobi> athena is that all?
[05:18] <shinobi> athena that makes sense
[05:18] <shinobi> hold on
[05:18] <kcoleman> smart: if u dont have access to ur router u wont be able to manually forward the ports to get better download speeds
[05:18] <athena> yes
[05:20] <arunkale> ok i have a problem here
[05:20] <arunkale> the feisty installer downloaded all the updates
[05:20] <cheeseboy> error while loading shared libraries: liballeg.so.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:20] <cheeseboy> how do i fix that?
[05:20] <shinobi> athena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16580/
[05:20] <athena> shinobi i have to files 1st is called medibuntu.list 2nd medibuntu.list.save
[05:20] <arunkale> and it installed them, but in the cleaning up phase, it went upto about 60% and said 'could not install upgrades'
[05:20] <cheeseboy> hey athena
[05:20] <arunkale> any ideas?
[05:21] <jeffreyp90> in kmail, how can I have a reply go on top instead of the bottom?
[05:21] <shinobi> athena threre should just be one file called sources.list in /etc/apt/
[05:21] <athena> cheeseboy yes
[05:21] <MegaVolt> the network manager doesnt show any wireless networks (but i know there are some) - switching to manual config i can enter essid and everything works
[05:22] <athena> should i copy and past it into my file?
[05:22] <MegaVolt> any idea why the network manager doesnt show anything? (essid broadcast is on)
[05:22] <shinobi> athena should look something like what i just sent you
[05:22] <athena> i cant delete the other file
[05:22] <shinobi> athena yes, it is in a root only folder
[05:22] <jeffreyp90> hello
[05:23] <shinobi> athena you will have to do this in another way
[05:23] <raziel_> yes
[05:23] <cheeseboy> error while loading shared libraries: liballeg.so.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:23] <cheeseboy> Help
[05:23] <jeffreyp90> how can I get replies to go on top in kmail?
[05:23] <detto2> hey, I upgraded to feisty, and when I restarted, I couldn't get X to load
[05:23] <canen> jeffreyp90: sort by date?
[05:24] <athena> shinobi how?
[05:24] <canen> jeffreyp90: sorry, misunderstood
[05:24] <shinobi> athena run the command like # sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <canen> jeffreyp90: edit the templates in your identity
[05:24] <cheeseboy> helpplease?
[05:24] <shinobi> athena then you can paste what i sent you and save
[05:24] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy,  and what program is ssying that?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !find liballeg
[05:24] <ubotu> Found: liballegro-doc, liballegro4.2, liballegro4.2-dev, liballegro4.2-plugin-arts, liballegro4.2-plugin-esd (and 2 others)
[05:24] <muse> hi
[05:25] <shinobi> athena but you also have to remove or replace all of the 'jp.' with your country
[05:25] <muse> i don't like KDE
[05:25] <muse> prefer gnome
[05:25] <jeffreyp90> what do I have to do there?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> muse,  so?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:31] <muse> yeah
[05:31] <muse> but in some aspects
[05:31] <muse> kde is better
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: move stuff around :)
[05:31] <muse> so i use for work
[05:31] <eagles0513875> is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatable cuz i have a feeling that is whats locking me out from my windows partition
[05:31] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm using an AMD Athlon 64, is it advisable to use the k7 kernel? (32-bit installation)
[05:31] <Mena> !wine
[05:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Black_Monkey,  i dont think you need to use the k7 kernel for that cpu.
[05:31] <athena> shinobi:
[05:31] <athena> root@Zues1-desktop:~# sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: click Modify, then Templates
[05:31] <athena> cannot open display: (null)
[05:31] <athena> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> I did that
[05:31] <shinobi> muse. in that case can you tell me how to run a sudo gui text editor in gnome to help athena edit sources.list easily?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> athena,  you are logged in as root..  did you login to X as a user?
[05:31] <shinobi> athena, you are using gnome right?
[05:31] <cheeseboy> Dr_willis rocknes and all of those are already installed
[05:31] <eagles0513875> is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatable cuz i have a feeling that is whats locking me out from my windows partition
[05:31] <athena> yes
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: and the "Use custom..." checkbox?
[05:31] <muse> i dont know
[05:31] <Black_Monkey> Dr_willis: ok, thanks. I'm using i686 at the moment, but I'd heard k7 was better :/
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> ok
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Black_Monkey,  i cant imagine why. :)
[05:31] <shinobi> Dr_willis good point! wow.
[05:31] <Black_Monkey> kk
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: you can do this globally as well
[05:31] <canen> but per identity is cleaner
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> I am the only user on this computer
[05:31] <shinobi> athena uh, since you are logged in as root somehow, then you don't need the sudo part
[05:31] <canen> if u  mess up  u can just uncheck the box :)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> for X based apps with a gui youy normally want to use ksudo or the gnome equilivent.
[05:31] <cheeseboy>  Dr_willis any ideas?
[05:31] <muse> i think ''sudo sources.list''
[05:31] <shinobi> Dr_willis what is the gnome equivalent...muse?
[05:31] <muse> and then psswd
[05:31] <nuxil> !kickoff
[05:31] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[05:31] <shinobi> no not sudo sources list
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> is there an easier way of doing this?
[05:31] <shinobi> you need an app and a visual authent. command
[05:31] <athena> still does not work
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Shifty,  i never can rember. i use 'sux' :)
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: what's the problem?
[05:31] <shinobi> athena can you right click the file and 'edit as root'?
[05:31] <athena> let me try
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> I want to have replies go on top when I reply to a message
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: copy the existing variables to where you want them to go by default. I think the one you want is URSOR
[05:31] <shinobi> athena for example go to /etc/apt/ in your nautilus
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: click on "Replay to Sender", "New Message" is the default one
[05:31] <shinobi> athena then right click the sources.list file and maybe there is option to edit as root in gnome?
[05:31] <canen> jeffreyp90: see what i am talking about?
[05:31] <Jucato> shinobi: there isn't :)
[05:31] <athena> no does not give me the option
[05:31] <jeffreyp90> yes
[05:31] <MenZa> sudo gedit <file>
[05:31] <MenZa> well
[05:31] <MenZa> gksudo
[05:31] <Jucato> gksudo :)
[05:31] <shinobi> Jucato he he he i only used it for like an hour once
[05:31] <shinobi> Jucato what would be suitable command line to run a gui text editor as root on sources.list?
[05:31] <shinobi> in gnome
[05:32] <shinobi> athena can you use vi?
[05:32] <Jucato> shinobi: MenZa gave it already
[05:32] <athena> whats vi?
[05:32] <Jucato> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <Jucato> shinobi: or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <WillLuongo> Is there an apt-get command for the MAD mp3 decoding library?
[05:32] <shinobi> athena there you go, try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <shinobi> and paste in the sources i sent you
[05:33] <Graham> WillLuongo: Search Adept, it'll be there.
[05:33] <athena> (gksudo:12250): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !find mad
[05:33] <ubotu> Found: libmad0, libmad0-dev, avifile-mad-plugin, gnomad2, gramadoir (and 15 others)
[05:33] <Jucato> WillLuongo: libmad0
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !info libbmad0
[05:33] <Jucato> bah :P
[05:33] <ubotu> Package libbmad0 does not exist in feisty
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !info libmad0
[05:33] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:34] <shinobi> athena okay, so # sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <athena> shinobi no good
[05:34] <canen> jeffreyp90: working now?
[05:34] <Jucato> disregard the sudo if he's/she's already root...
[05:34] <jeffreyp90> what do I have to change
[05:35] <canen> jeffreyp90: move URSOR to the top
[05:35] <athena> yes that worked
[05:35] <canen> jeffreyp90: that should be "URSOR"
[05:35] <shinobi> athena okay can you paste in what i sent you?
[05:36] <jeffreyp90> I am not even seeing that
[05:36] <canen> damn thin is eating teh % and C
[05:36] <jeffreyp90> did the name change?
[05:36] <shinobi> athena and remove all the 'jp.' prefixes?
[05:36] <canen> should ne % CURSOR
[05:36] <canen> without the space
[05:36] <jeffreyp90> OH
[05:36] <jeffreyp90> OK
[05:36] <jeffreyp90> i got ya
[05:37] <shinobi> athena then save & exit
[05:37] <jeffreyp90> do I move it to the very first line
[05:37] <canen> yes
[05:37] <canen> should look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16584/
[05:37] <canen> or experiment a little until you get it the way you want
[05:38] <ForMatter> What is the topic..
[05:38] <canen> you can remove lines too if you want
[05:39] <athena> should i change jp to au
[05:39] <shinobi> athena sure if you are in oz
[05:40] <ForMatter> Shinobi: why my modem not appear in my wvdial..
[05:41] <shinobi> ForMatter i haven't even seena  modem since like back in '85, no idea at all
[05:41] <[Al] > How do I turn off those popups that I get when I hover over an item in the taskbar?
[05:41] <arunkale> Ok, the upgrade to Feisty seems to have gone pretty badly for me. I got an error during the 'Cleaning Up' phase, and then I closed it and restarted. While turning the computer off, it showed me the new screen for login/logout (the new logo and progress bar). On restart, GRUB loads properly, but when I start Kubuntu, it loads using the old Edgy screen, and then gives me some weird console...
[05:41] <arunkale> ...errors.. 'unknown stanza', and stuff like that.. and it does a filesystem check and just hangs. I mean, the cursor blinks, but it doesn't do anything else. How do I fix this? If I can't fix it, how do I erase Edgy safely so that I can do a fresh install? (I'm using a dual boot)
[05:41] <[Al] > I've turned off KDE effects
[05:42] <Jucato> [Al] : right-click on the taskbar -> Configure Taskbar -> Appearance options -> uncheck "Enable icon mouseover effects"
[05:42] <shinobi> [Al]  configure panels - appearance uncheck enable icon mouseover efects
[05:42] <shinobi> smile
[05:42] <jeffreyp90> that puts it on the same line as "on Friday you said....."
[05:42] <[Al] > Got it, thanks!
[05:42] <Jucato> :P
[05:43] <athena> didn't work
[05:43] <Jucato> shinobi: for a ninja, you're slow :P
[05:43] <canen> need free 700k from /boot
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, if you're doing a fresh install, you're set, just reformat the hdd
[05:43] <athena> i'll give a ninja my panties any time
[05:43] <shinobi> Jucato not used to roman  keyboards...need a  brush!
[05:43] <yeti> that distribution upgrade tool is a nice idea, but it just doesn't work *sigh*
[05:43] <ForMatter> Jucato: are you ever seen modem driver for motorola sm56 in kubuntu..
[05:43] <Jucato> ForMatter: sorry, no...
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, at least the nix partition
[05:44] <shinobi> athena what does didn't work mean?
[05:44] <athena> the edit did not write to file
[05:44] <arunkale> hitmanWilly: if I format the nix partition, Windows gets fried too, coz the nix partition is where GRUB is at
[05:44] <canen> is the config file needed in the /boot?
[05:44] <ForMatter> Jucato: so,my modem cant work properly in kubuntu..
[05:44] <shinobi> athena, it just didn't?
[05:44] <athena> nope
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, the feisty disc will reinstall grub
[05:45] <iam504> anyone else get the console-setup setup error?
[05:45] <Jucato> ForMatter: not sure. I meant "no I haven't seen a motorola sm56"
[05:45] <shinobi> athena hmm, you know, the whole logging in as root thing is  alittle confusing
[05:45] <athena> look maybe we need to sleep on this one for know
[05:45] <iam504> found this thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383211 , doesn't say how to fix the console-setup issue
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, usually, its pretty good at picking up windows
[05:45] <athena> talk to you tomorrow if your online thanks for all your HELP much appreciated.
[05:46] <shinobi> sure
[05:46] <arunkale> hitmanWilly: Is there any way I can just uninstall Edgy safely right now without touching the other partitions, or doing a fresh install of Feisty?
[05:46] <shinobi> 
[05:46] <jeffreyp90> I got it thanks
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Uninstall edgy.. Hmm..
[05:46] <canen> cool
[05:46] <yeti> okay. the upgrade just aborted 'cause it couldn't upgrade samba. clicking "report bug" crashed the rest of it, now it's stalled. what am i going to do now? any reasonable idea welcome
[05:46] <Berto> hi - kicker crashed, and now when i try to open it, it keeps crashing.  7.04
[05:46] <Berto> any ideas of clearing things out and getting to start safely?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> yeti,  remove samba, retry the upgrade?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, if you do a fresh install of feisty it'll clear up all of that mess
[05:47] <Berto> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:47] <ForMatter> Jucato: are bluetooth in my kubuntu can use as local area network with other computer..
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Berto,  thats a message from the wacom tablet thats configured in the default x.org file
[05:47] <yeti> Dr_willis: mh, okay
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Berto,  not fatal.
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> arunkale, and it won't touch the win partition
[05:48] <Berto> Dr_willis, ok, from the kcrash app, i'm seeing some minipager_panelapplet.so messages
[05:48] <ForMatter> Dr_willis : Jucato: are bluetooth in my kubuntu can use as local area network with other computer..
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Berto,  no idea about those. but that Uninit device. is a common question. :)
[05:49] <Berto> well this stinks.  i wonder what joe sixpack does when this happens
[05:49] <Berto> i don't feel like restarting x
[05:49] <mathieu> any fr here?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Berto,  i always keep /home on its own hd. and do clean installs. :)
[05:49] <BluesKaj> !fr | mathieu
[05:49] <ubotu> mathieu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:50] <instructor> !mp3
[05:50] <Jucato> ForMatter: no idea.... :(
[05:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <instructor> Jucato: still awake?
[05:51] <Jucato> instructor: a bit.
[05:51] <instructor> Riddell: Will LTS -upgrade-> LTS+1 be possible ?
[05:52] <ForMatter> Dr_willis: i want make Local Area Network with bluetooth connection..
[05:54] <yeti> lol... maybe a reinstall would be easier than that.
[05:58] <Rafo> hwo do i list files ?
[05:58] <Rafo> how*
[05:59] <abattoir> Rafo: 'ls'
[05:59] <shinobi> Rafowhere
[05:59] <Rafo> abattoir, thanks.
[05:59] <abattoir> you're welcome :)
[06:00] <abattoir> Rafo: might want to refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:00] <ForMatter> Abatoir: my Kafein can play MPEG files,but there's no sounds..
[06:00] <abattoir> ForMatter: do you have all the necessary codecs installed?
[06:01] <instructor> !w32codecs
[06:01] <abattoir> i'm guessing you don't have mp3 playback
[06:01] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:01] <abattoir> !codecs
[06:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <ForMatter> Abattoir : where i can find codecs for MPEG..
[06:01] <abattoir> ForMatter: ^^^ that should help you out
[06:02] <abattoir> ForMatter: do you have 'libxine-extracodecs' installed?
[06:02] <blekos_> i have Kubuntu installed but want to install ubuntu as well how can i do that?
[06:02] <abattoir> if you don't, please install it, the links above should help you with that
[06:02] <abattoir> blekos_: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:02] <tictactatic> hey, abattoir, sorry to bother you again, i would need to interrupt the upgrade at Fetching and Installing stage
[06:02] <ForMatter> Yes,i'd have install it..
[06:03] <tictactatic> it's still at fetchin file 409 out of 1181
[06:03] <tictactatic> can i safely kill it, despite the dire warning the upgrade utility gave me when i go to that stage?
[06:03] <kcoleman> i finally just got all 1241 downloaded - im now starting my install
[06:03] <abattoir> tictactatic: hi! i guess it's safe to interrupt when it's only downloading... but i haven't tried it myself, so can't say for sure
[06:04] <tictactatic> OK, there is only one way to find out
[06:04] <tictactatic> ;)
[06:04] <tictactatic> will let you know how it goes. thanks.
[06:05] <wolferine> can gparted add to a partition, without losing data?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  you mean 'enlarge an existing partition'
[06:06] <wolferine> yes Dr
[06:06] <Dr_willis> depends on the filesystems to some degree.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> but gparted should be able to do it.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> in many cases
[06:06] <ForMatter> Abattoir: i cant connect the wireless access point with wireless agent..it can detected,but i cant connect it..
[06:07] <wolferine> ext3
[06:07] <chrisloukas> kalisperaaaaaaa
[06:07] <maikel> ForMatter: try network manager
[06:07] <wolferine> both are ext3
[06:07] <kcoleman> ForMatter i had the same problem - try a different program - kwlan works for me
[06:07] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  should be able to do it then. You may want to backup any imporntant data just in case.
[06:07] <chrisloukas> is everyone who speaks greek?
[06:07] <ForMatter> Kcoleman: where i can find kwlan..
[06:07] <blekos_> speraaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:08] <pingveno> I'm using the upgrade tool and it's stuck on the Fetching and installing the upgrades step. Supposedly it has been configuring dolphin for the past 20 minutes.
[06:08] <chrisloukas> kalispera blekos
[06:08] <kcoleman> adpet-package manager
[06:08] <wolferine> no, if that is even 10% an issue, I will not do it
[06:08] <instructor> !gr
[06:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:08] <wolferine> but thanks for the advice
[06:08] <pingveno> There was an error message that popped up and I stupidly closed it
[06:08] <instructor> !gr | chrisloukas
[06:08] <ubotu> chrisloukas: please see above
[06:09] <pingveno> I rememnber a path related to deb installatio
[06:09] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  any thingk not backed up is at risk. even if you are not doing anything :) ive seen way to much drive failure in the last few years..
[06:09] <ForMatter> Kcoleman:from cd repository..?
[06:09] <weedar> running edgy and the adept updater told me feisty was out. It said it would open an upgrade tool, but nothing came up - but Adept Updater seems to have the feisty repositories enbled
[06:09] <wolferine> Dr_willis, that has nothing to do with it
[06:09] <wolferine> but i took your advice, so thatnks
[06:09] <weedar> enabled, can I just upgrade with it?
[06:11] <ForMatter> Dr_willis:where i can find kwlan..
[06:11] <Dr_willis> I give the same lecture to everyone. :) and some times they come back a week later saying i cursed them because their HD just died. :)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> !find kwlan
[06:11] <ubotu> Found: kwlan
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !info kwlan
[06:12] <ubotu> kwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 459 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[06:12] <ForMatter> !Find kwlan
[06:12] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kwlan  --- should install it.
[06:13] <ForMatter> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:13] <USMarine> i hope kubuntu 7.04 doesnt crash with xfs like it did in the previous version
[06:15] <shinobi_> Dr_willis where can i learn the bot controls that's cool
[06:15] <USMarine> !help ?
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <shinobi_> nice
[06:16] <shinobi_> freaky. but nice.
[06:16] <BluesKaj> !xfs
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <ForMatter> !info kwlan
[06:16] <ubotu> kwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 459 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[06:17] <ForMatter> !find bluetooth
[06:17] <ubotu> Found: kdebluetooth, kdebluetooth-irmcsync, libbluetooth2, libbluetooth2-dev, bluetooth (and 3 others)
[06:17] <acetoxy> Yo, I started upgrading earlier today
[06:17] <acetoxy> Then the upgrading-tool crashed because of some dependency error or something like that
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !bot
[06:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:17] <ForMatter> !info netstat
[06:17] <ubotu> Package netstat does not exist in feisty
[06:18] <acetoxy> And I couldn't go back to the upgrading-tool, so I did dpkg --configure -a, and I get dependency errors all the time
[06:18] <ForMatter> !help
[06:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:18] <wolferine> how can I setup qtparted to see my /media not my /mnt
[06:18] <shinobi_> okay okay i'm scared now...
[06:18] <USMarine> get a dog
[06:18] <acetoxy> So, what would be the next step from here? To reinstall kubuntu from scratch?
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, you NEVER want to partition a mounted drive
[06:20] <ForMatter> !find xmms
[06:20] <ubotu> Found: xmms, xmms-dev, gaim-xmms-remote, libxmms-perl, libxmms-ruby (and 67 others)
[06:20] <shinobi_> USMarine to eat?
[06:20] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, so I have to use a LiveCD ?
[06:20] <ForMatter> !info games
[06:20] <ubotu> Package games does not exist in feisty
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, are you partitioning your root drive?
[06:21] <wolferine> yes
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, then probably, yes
[06:21] <Dr_willis> live cd;s are the way to do many of those tasks.
[06:21] <BluesKaj> wolferine, use GParted Live CD
[06:21] <Dr_willis> gparted live cd - is very well done. :) and only 50mb
[06:22] <xororand> i've got some weird display error while trying to install feisty fawn kubuntu on virtualbox: http://frexx.de/binpaste/kubuntu-feisty-fawn-vbox.png
[06:22] <xororand> don't know if this issue is already known
[06:22] <shinobi_> Dr_willis mmm can run usb drive
[06:24] <abattoir> xororand: someone else had the same issue...
[06:25] <xororand> abattoir: it's not a very big deal. just wanted to post it in case it's not known yet
[06:25] <abattoir> xororand: but i think it's something with vbox/qt4/X not w/ Ubiquity
[06:25] <TomStrong> Hi there
[06:25] <TomStrong> Does anyone know where Konsole save the session ?
[06:25] <xororand> abattoir: perhaps the video ram of the vbox is too low, 8 megabytes
[06:25] <abattoir> xororand: you could file a bug report and see what the devs say if you want to
[06:25] <TomStrong> or sessions
[06:25] <abattoir> xororand: yup, that could be it
[06:27] <abattoir> TomStrong: tried ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc ?
[06:27] <blabla1983> is anyone using amule?
[06:27] <TomStrong> abattoir, tks
[06:28] <abattoir> TomStrong: np
[06:30] <TomStrong> abattoir, do you know a way to load a session from a file ?
[06:31] <TomStrong> abattoir, that file only has ini stuff not sessions :(
[06:31] <abattoir> TomStrong: Settings->Save Session Profile ?
[06:33] <abattoir> TomStrong: Settings->Configure Konsole->Session too
[06:34] <shogouki> hi
[06:34] <TomStrong> abattoir, I know but i want to use this session in another computers
[06:34] <shogouki> how can i install linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 package ? apt-get cant install it because it not exists but it is shown in repository ...
[06:35] <abattoir> TomStrong: see if it's saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole
[06:35] <lag_3d> i have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !find 2.6.15-23
[06:35] <ubotu> Found: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23
[06:35] <Dr_willis> !find linux-image-2.6.15-23-686
[06:35] <shogouki> in fact i search a 686 kernel for my dualcore
[06:35] <ubotu> Package/file linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 does not exist in feisty
[06:36] <eagles0513875> is ntfs-3g 64 bit compatible
[06:36] <Dr_willis> the -gneric kernel has replaced most of those specific kernel versions
[06:36] <eagles0513875> i cant even log into my windows partition without it locking up my entire system
[06:36] <TomStrong> abattoir, under the dir consoles
[06:36] <TomStrong> tks
[06:36] <TomStrong> ups i meant "profiles"
[06:36] <shogouki> Dr_willis: i hope my both core are working :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g is still a bit of a work in progress
[06:37] <Dr_willis> shogouki,  check /proc/cpu perhaps?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> im not sure of your logic in thinking 686 is needed for dual core is comming.
[06:38] <pingveno> Is it just me, or is the Kubuntu wiki painful overloaded?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> all the *ubuntu sites are a bit loaded at this time
[06:38] <pingveno> ah
[06:38] <pingveno> surprise!
[06:38] <Dr_willis> im suprised these channels are still working heh
[06:38] <pingveno> lol
[06:38] <Dr_willis> poor ubotu  is  over heating!
[06:38] <eagles0513875> how can i fix it now even with ntfs-3g disabled Dr_willis
[06:39] <shogouki> Dr_willis: well thats all the "ubuntu on this laptop" pages said, and dont know personnally ... :)
[06:39] <pingveno> Maybe IRC's on a different server
[06:39] <ahmad> Maybe it's due to the latest release of Fiesty Fawn
[06:39] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  fix 'what' exactly? you could just mount the ntfs drives read only using the older modules/method.
[06:39] <pingveno> It's not exactly a huge load
[06:39] <xst> After upgrading to feisty I have no longer any options to shut down or restart when I press the K->"log out" menu option. I have only the option "Log out". What's wrong?
[06:39] <lag_3d> i have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> xst,  you using KDM to login to kde?
[06:39] <eagles0513875> im saying that when i boot into windows and type in my password it locks my system entierly
[06:39] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  oh. No idea on that then.
[06:39] <USMarine> xst you're not using kdm
[06:41] <xst> USMarine DR_Villis: That's correct. I use GDM. But I had the options in edgy. Has something changed?
[06:41] <ahmad> I wanted to ask: In a Dell Inspiron 6400, do I have to install the alternate Kubuntu, or is it ok to use the live CD?
[06:41] <hendaus> hiya
[06:41] <USMarine> obivously you were using kdm in edgy
[06:41] <Dr_willis> xst,  only time ive seen those options - is when using KDM to login to KDE. (or visa-versa GDM to get to gnome)
[06:41] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[06:41] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  and the problem is?
[06:41] <USMarine> hendaus call 911
[06:42] <xst> Another option that is missing is "Switch User". Where has this one gone?
[06:42] <lag_3d> hendaus: it's less spammy to ask directly rather than ask to ask
[06:42] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  thanx, but how can i grab a movie from yourtube.com?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> I got 'switch user'
[06:42] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  thers several firefox plugins that can do that.
[06:43] <Elite2142_> noob: is to install "sudo apt-get install +name+"?
[06:43] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  can u help me please?
[06:43] <USMarine> hendaus a simple google query will tell you how
[06:43] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  go to the firefox extensions site.. look around.
[06:43] <xst> Dr_willis: In feisty? And in the K dropdown menu?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> xst,  yes.
[06:44] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  ok and whats the name of the plugin/
[06:44] <xst> strange
[06:44] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  'look around' i dont have it installed at this moment - and theres several to chose from
[06:44] <lag_3d> hendaus: also, you can find some sites that download the damn .flv for you (search google download flv or something like that). you can also look for the damn .flv in the browser cash.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> while you are there - be sure to grab 'adblock plus' and  explore :) theres a lot of great extensions.
[06:44] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  thanx
[06:45] <hendaus> lag_3d,  thanx also :)
[06:45] <USMarine> xst install kdm and use it as your login manager
[06:46] <lag_3d> i have an onboard nvidia soundcard for which i have a nice driver and a nice control pannel in windows, where i have some powerful options. is there any way i could get a similar driver and/or control pannel for it in kubuntu?
[06:47] <USMarine> lag_3d keep dreaming
[06:47] <Dr_willis> the alsa-mixer and  other mixers are all he really needs for his Audigy cards.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> i dont 'need' chipmunk-sounding-effects. :)
[06:48] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  i found from firefox addon site videodownloader, now how can i install it on kubuntu coz i am newbie
[06:48] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: one of them is that i have an equalizer which produces a very very very strong bass, which i love. it looks quite much like a hardware equalizer, and i need it badly and a half.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  install firefox.. go to that site with firefox.. click on the link
[06:49] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2390 this is the link but tell me how to install it on kubuntu maybe different from windows
[06:49] <xst> Dr_willis: It helped to switch to kdm. Thanks a lot
[06:49] <USMarine> lool
[06:49] <Dr_willis> xst,  heh - we said to use kdm like... some time ago. :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  you need to install firefox. then click on that install link from within firefox.
[06:50] <yeti> is there some command involving dpkg or such that tells me which package a file belongs to?
[06:50] <USMarine>  5:39p  (USMarine) xst you're not using kdm
[06:50] <USMarine> 11min ago
[06:50] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: how do i get some similarly powerful equalizer in kubuntu?
[06:50] <hendaus> Dr_willis,  i have firefox installed
[06:50] <Dr_willis> hendaus,  i just clicked on the big 'install now' button and it installed.
[06:50] <lag_3d> yeti: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:50] <Dr_willis> then you restart firefox
[06:51] <xst> USMarine: Eh, thats correct. Thats why I switched to kdm and reported to success to Dr_willis?
[06:51] <yeti> lag_3d: i know about that one, but isn't there something like dpkg --file /usr/bin/<blah>?
[06:51] <Fishy> How to replace krusader with konqueror as default filemanager? I have tried to "open with" krusader and "remember" settings. Krusader tries to start, then crashes.
[06:52] <Fishy> I don't know if it is possible to test it from the terminal to see what is going wrong
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Fishy,  im not sure thats doable.  may want to ask in #KDE
[06:53] <lag_3d> yeti: yes, there is a command, but i always forget what it is. i think you'll have to install some new app first.
[06:53] <lag_3d> yeti: like apt-file or apt-cache or something
[06:54] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: so... i have a driver/equalizer in windows which produces a very very very very strong bass, which i love. it looks quite much like a hardware equalizer, and i need it badly and a half. how do i get some similarly powerful equalizer in kubuntu?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> alsa-mixer or try any of the other dozen or so mixers out
[06:55] <Dr_willis> other then that.. i dont mess with the soundmuch
[06:55] <Dr_willis> got a Master/Base/Treble/other sliders in Kmix also i see
[06:55] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: can the alsa-mixer be as low level as that windows application?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> no idea. i dont mess with windows. :)
[06:56] <Dr_willis> kernel -> alsa->alsa-mixer :) thats about low as it gets.
[06:57] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: that's just a chart, not a menu navigation suggestion, right?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> yep.
[06:57] <chrismir> Hi, what does the second column in adept mean (column has several entries with ubuntu logo)
[06:57] <wolferine> how can I speed up access my drives, can I setup Nautilus to not scan my network drives on startup, just accessing them when I click on the mount?
[06:57] <blableblu> muy buenas !
[06:57] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: cool, just making sure
[06:57] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: also, i think i hear a cleaner sound in windows, do you think it's just an impression?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Nautilus is the gnome file manager. not kde's
[06:58] <wolferine> yes
[06:58] <wolferine> so?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> lag_3d,  proberly. but who can tell :)
[06:58] <blableblu> perdonad alguno me podria hechar una mano para configurar la resolucion de pantalla ?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  this is the KDE ubuntu channel.
[06:58] <lag_3d> :))
[06:58] <wolferine> Dr_willis, i have been here for the last 2 months
[06:58] <scuzzlebutt> Good Morning, i'm hoping to find someone here who might help me, i'm a newbie to Linux
[06:58] <lag_3d> !spanish
[06:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:58] <wolferine> not sure if its necessary to tell me its a kubuntu channel
[06:58] <Dr_willis> then you may want to ask in #gnome or #ubuntu - you may have better luck.
[06:58] <biblioteca> alguem fala portugues ?
[06:58] <wolferine> luck?
[06:59] <biblioteca> alguem fala portugues ?
[06:59] <wolferine> if you dont know, its ok Dr_willis
[06:59] <Dr_willis> i doubt if many of the helpers in here ever use nautilus
[06:59] <wolferine> i wouldnt be embarrassed
[06:59] <BluesKaj> scuzzlebutt, go ahead just ask your question
[06:59] <Jucato> !pt | biblioteca
[06:59] <ubotu> biblioteca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:59] <lag_3d> biblioteca: see what ubotu has to say:
[06:59] <lag_3d> !portuguese
[06:59] <chrismir> What does the second column in adept mean (column has several entries with ubuntu logo)
[07:00] <biblioteca> como eh seu nome ?
[07:00] <BluesKaj> !it
[07:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:00] <biblioteca> lag 3d
[07:00] <biblioteca> como eh seu nome ?
[07:00] <Jucato> biblioteca: English only in here
[07:00] <biblioteca> !portuguese
[07:01] <wolferine> Dr_willis, I help in here as much as I can
[07:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:01] <wolferine> and I use Nautilus
[07:01] <Jucato> chrismir: the packages with the kubuntu logo are the supported packages I think (packages in main and restricted)
[07:01] <scuzzlebutt> my question is this: # tar -zxvf hamachi-0.9.9.9-6.tar.gz, where do i put this command line.....i'm trying to install hamachi
[07:01] <chrismir> Jucato: ah, thx
[07:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me. have fun.
[07:01] <soulrider> bye Dr_willis
[07:01] <biblioteca> sabado eh feriado ai ?
[07:02] <soulrider> !br | biblioteca
[07:02] <ubotu> biblioteca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:02] <BluesKaj> in the konsole, scuzzlebutt
[07:02] <biblioteca> !br
[07:02] <biblioteca> ja fui
[07:02] <soulrider> !torrents
[07:02] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[07:02] <wolferine> and my question isnt necessarily dependant upon my "file viewer"
[07:02] <scuzzlebutt> ok, where do i find the konsole...the termial?
[07:03] <BluesKaj> tes
[07:03] <BluesKaj> yes
[07:03] <Jucato> scuzzlebutt: K Menu -> System -> Konsole
[07:03] <scuzzlebutt> tks <BLUESKaj> L8trz all
[07:03] <animimotus> Hi
[07:04] <mnadhro> hi
[07:04] <animimotus> http://kubuntu.com/download.php#lts <------- here is the DVD pour Kubuntu, does it exist the same for Ubuntu ?
[07:04] <mnadhro> do think K is better than ubuntu
[07:05] <lag_3d> how do i access cnr (click and run)?
[07:05] <animimotus> mnadhro: ?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> lag_3d,  not sure thats supported yet under ubuntu/kubuntu - i was thinking it was a 'work in progress'
[07:06] <mnadhro> and why its better ?
[07:06] <xst> Where do I configure which soundcard that should be used as default? (Using Feisty)
[07:06] <lag_3d> Dr_willis: how do i have access to the nvidia driver?
[07:06] <Jucato> !nvidia | lag_3d
[07:06] <ubotu> lag_3d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:07] <lag_3d> Jucato: so it isn't installed by default, as they said?
[07:08] <Jucato> lag_3d: as who said?
[07:09] <Jucato> no, the proprietary/binary nvidia (or ati) drivers are not installed by default (yet...)
[07:10] <lag_3d> Jucato: it has been said that ubuntu would have compiz + driver *installed* by default, only not *enabled*, am i wrong?
[07:11] <Jucato> lag_3d: partly correct. they announced a bit later (March I think) that they won't be doing that for Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
[07:12] <lag_3d> Jucato: why isn't the restricted-manager package installed by default in kubuntu (as i assume it is in ubuntu)?
[07:12] <coreymon77> hi guys
[07:12] <Jucato> lag_3d: because restricted-manager is a GNOME app that is dependent on synaptic being installed, which Kubuntu doesn't do.
[07:12] <osberto> #kubuntu-es
[07:12] <Jucato> so it's a very Ubuntu-specific app. might have a Kubuntu port next release
[07:13] <coreymon77> are the repos still insanely bogged down
[07:13] <coreymon77> and i got a problem
[07:13] <lag_3d> Jucato: where do i find a list of ubuntu-only apps that have no equivalent in kubuntu?
[07:13] <coreymon77> update manager wont load
[07:13] <lag_3d> Jucato: it's very important for me to get this list
[07:13] <coreymon77> i downlaod the relase announcement
[07:14] <coreymon77> and downloaded the tool, but when i click finish, it doesnt load
[07:14] <coreymon77> what do i do
[07:14] <Jucato> lag_3d: hm... not really sure. it's only by trial and error...but most GNOME/GTK+ apps in Ubuntu are not installed on Kubuntu.
[07:14] <BluesKaj> lag_3d,  try #ubuntu , they'll be glad to help you there
[07:14] <Jucato> lag_3d: although some would have counterparts
[07:14] <coreymon77> can i just download update-manager through apt and then run it in text mode?
[07:15] <Jucato> coreymon77: update-manager is a GUI app
[07:15] <lag_3d> blue: what do you mean? help me with what?
[07:15] <lag_3d> BluesKaj: what do you mean? help me with what?
[07:15] <vbgunz> python-minimal is halting my upgrade to Feisty from Edgy, is this reported?
[07:15] <coreymon77> can i get it from apt-get thouhg
[07:15] <saveme1> hello world
[07:15] <lag_3d> BluesKaj: did you get the wrong impression my question was not kubuntu-specific?
[07:15] <coreymon77> because when i type update-manager into konsole, it says that the command is not found
[07:16] <BluesKaj> lag_3d, your list of gnome only apps
[07:16] <vbgunz> the Kubuntu wiki in the topic is down too, I could not access it all day... is Feisty upgrade broken?
[07:16] <coreymon77> Jucato: can i donwlaod update-manager from apt
[07:16] <hak5fan> Hello. My mic volume on skype is very low. It worked correctly before dinner but after dinner I booted in to a different kernel I have, It didn't work on that kernel so I booted up the first kernel again and now it doesn't work on that kernel either
[07:16] <Jucato> vbgunz: no. but the servers might be being bogged by lots of downloads
[07:16] <coreymon77> Jucato: because when i type update-manager into konsole, it says that the command is not found
[07:16] <hak5fan> what is this
[07:17] <coreymon77> are the repos still insanely bogged down?
[07:17] <Jucato> coreymon77: yes I think so. sudo apt-get install update-manager. not sure how well it works on Kubuntu though. but you can try
[07:17] <coreymon77> Jucato: i think i have no other way
[07:17] <Jucato> coreymon77: repos? maybe. wiki/website servers, most probably
[07:17] <coreymon77> Jucato: i try doing it through adept and it wont work
[07:17] <lag_3d> BluesKaj: i don't want a list of gnome-only apps, as they are too many anyway and i know most of them; i want a list of ubuntu apps that have no couterpart in kubuntu, especially those ones made by the (k)ubuntu team.
[07:17] <wolferine> just for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?
[07:18] <wolferine> or are all the updated packages in the .iso?
[07:18] <coreymon77> Jucato: i view the release announcement, download the apt and then press finish to close adept and run the update tool,
[07:18] <coreymon77> Jucato: the problem is, adept doesnt close and no tool pops u[
[07:19] <Jucato> coreymon77: not really sure what's happening :/
[07:19] <pingveno> I'm having trouble with a stalled feisty update. It's stuck on fetching and installing, with the status being "preparing to configure dolphin"
[07:19] <utnubuk> hey is there a torrent for the new feisty??
[07:19] <wolferine> utnubuk, of course
[07:19] <vbgunz> Jucato: I've already downloaded all the files I think... now trying to install them I am halted at python-minimal... here is everything after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade: http://dpaste.com/8811/
[07:19] <utnubuk> i cant find it on the website...
[07:19] <pingveno> There was an error message that popped up a whiile ago, but I idiotically closed it.
[07:19] <wolferine> try piratebay
[07:19] <hak5fan> I don't know what to do because I've had this problem before but after changing form ALSA to OSS driver in skype it just worked now it doesn't
[07:19] <BluesKaj> lag_3d, well then I still think #ubuntu is your best bet for gnome exclusive apps
[07:19] <utnubuk> ok ty
[07:19] <coreymon77> Jucato: oh ya, and there is no version upgrade button in adept
[07:20] <lag_3d> BluesKaj: good
[07:20] <pingveno> coreymon77: not even a Full Upgrade button?
[07:20] <coreymon77> pingveno: yes, there is that
[07:20] <coreymon77> pingveno: and i have used that
[07:20] <coreymon77> pingveno: then i view the release announcement again and redownload the tool
[07:21] <Jucato> vbgunz: tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[07:21] <coreymon77> pingveno: then i press finish to close adept and run the tool, but adept doesnt close and the tool doesnt run
[07:21] <Jucato> coreymon77: what happens when you close adept? does the tool run?
[07:21] <pingveno> coreymon77: have you downloaded the package lists again?
[07:21] <vbgunz> Jucato: yes, then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but I still end up with the same error and halt at the same spot when I try again :(
[07:21] <coreymon77> Jucato: no it doesnt
[07:21] <soulrider> is there any way to update to feisty using a CD as a repo ?
[07:22] <lag_3d> now, after i installed the new nvidia driver kdm and xorg started to complain that kernel module doesn't match the kernel anymore. i fixed this by adding a "rmmod nvidia; modprobe nvidia" line to /etc/rc/rc.local. is there any way to fix the root of this problem?
[07:22] <Jucato> soulrider: only with the alternate install cd and with your online repositories disabled (I think)
[07:22] <soulrider> ah fork!
[07:22] <lag_3d> soulrider: something like apt-cd or so
[07:22] <Jucato> lag_3d: you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:22] <coreymon77> Jucato: how do i get the thing to work!
[07:23] <lag_3d> Jucato: and this will do what?
[07:23] <coreymon77> Jucato: i dont want to have to whipe and cd install
[07:23] <vbgunz> Jucato: here is what I get when I say "sudo apt-get -f install" http://dpaste.com/8813/
[07:23] <soulrider> Jucato: do you need to download too much if youre going from an updated edgy installation ?
[07:23] <pacman> didn't 7.04 come out today?
[07:23] <Jucato> lag_3d: it will install the restricted modules needed by the kernel to load the nvidia drivers
[07:23] <soulrider> pacman: yesterday
[07:23] <pacman> WOOHOO!
[07:23] <pacman> can I apt-get it?
[07:23] <Jucato> soulrider: you upgrade every package you have installed, and probably add some more
[07:23] <soulrider> you can upgrade with adept
[07:24] <soulrider> Jucato: so its like an 800mb update ?
[07:24] <coreymon77> Jucato: why wont mine work
[07:24] <Jucato> soulrider: sort of
[07:24] <soulrider> ok, so witht he alternate cd i will be able to update right? thats 100% sure?
[07:24] <coreymon77> Jucato: should i just apt-get update-manager and then use that
[07:25] <lag_3d> Jucato: and i need to do this every time i install a new nvidia driver from the official nvidia site?
[07:25] <Jucato> coreymon77: hm.... can you run "kdesu adept_manager" in Konsole, then try to perform the steps indicated in the release announcement. then when it gets to the part where it should launch the upgrade tool, can you pastebin whatever error messages show up?
[07:25] <coreymon77> oh
[07:25] <monika__> hi, how can i access samba or windows shares from kubuntu?
[07:25] <coreymon77> ill do that
[07:25] <coreymon77> but im not at home now
[07:25] <Jucato> lag_3d: oh no. you need extra steps if you are going to get it from nvidia.com. why not just use the drivers in the repositories?
[07:25] <coreymon77> Jucato: ill do that later
[07:25] <pacman> so what do I need to do to upgrade from 6.06?
[07:25] <soulrider> monika__: in konqueror you have the remote places thing i think
[07:25] <vbgunz> man, I've had this upgrade nightmare since morning :(
[07:25] <Jucato> coreymon77: btw, are you using KDE 3.5.6 on Edgy?
[07:26] <coreymon77> Jucato: yup, but a\i added the repo and did an upgrade
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> pacman, update to 6.10 first, then update to feisty
[07:26] <coreymon77> Jucato: gtg
[07:26] <Jucato> coreymon77: did you add the special repo indicated in the release announcement?
[07:26] <Briareos1> has anyone ever set up a gameport joystick on a SBLive!5.1 in Kubuntu 64 bit?
[07:26] <coreymon77> Jucato: class time
[07:26] <coreymon77> Jucato: yes
[07:26] <soulrider> Jucato: are you 100% sure that with the alternate disc i can upgrade to feisty ?
[07:26] <monika__> soulrider, shouldn't i install some packages?
[07:26] <Jucato> ok
[07:26] <soulrider> monika__: nope
[07:26] <coreymon77> Jucato: yes i added the repo
[07:27] <Jucato> soulrider: only for those apps that are installed by default on a default Kubuntu installation (usually the ones from main)
[07:27] <lag_3d> Jucato: i find no official nvidia driver in any repo, or what should its name be?
[07:27] <soulrider> Jucato: ok
[07:27] <Jucato> !nvidia | lag_3d
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> lag_3d, nvidia-glx
[07:27] <ubotu> lag_3d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <Jucato> lag_3d: the guide is there ^^^^
[07:27] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: depends on what card, though
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah, legacy too
[07:28] <vbgunz> Jucato: do you have an idea about how to solve this after "sudo apt-get -f install" http://dpaste.com/8813/
[07:28] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: and -new
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> yup
[07:28] <wolferine> just for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> sorry, keep forgetting not everyone has a 7900
[07:28] <Jucato> vbgunz: sorry no.. :(
[07:28] <vbgunz> Jucato: :)
[07:28] <vbgunz> I hope a solution goes up soon someplace, this is bugging me :(
[07:28] <monika__> soulrider, sorry, but i can't really find it
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, did you try dpkg --configure -a
[07:29] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: yes
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> hmm, no idea then
[07:29] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: same deal :(
[07:30] <nozey> anyone using feisty + Intel Corporation 82551QM Ethernet Controller network card?
[07:30] <monika__> soulrider, if i type smb:/ I can find my computer
[07:31] <N0Lif3|lappy> I was reading that I could enable mouse gestures in Konqueror through khotkeys, but when I try to open khotkeys through the terminal it says "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed."
[07:32] <N0Lif3|lappy> so, what's up with that?
[07:32] <pacman> what's the name of the package for 6.10
[07:32] <Olive1> hello
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> !upgrade > pacman
[07:32] <Jucato> N0Lif3|lappy: use System Settings -> Accessibility ?
[07:33] <monika__> thank you, bye
[07:33] <Olive1> can anybody help me with a WiFi question?
[07:33] <Olive1> I have a IBM T42
[07:33] <Olive1> cant get WiFi to work
[07:34] <vbgunz> !upgrade > vbgunz
[07:34] <Olive1> am running latest version
[07:35] <Olive1> am i in the right place for help?
[07:36] <wolferine> just for clarification, if I wanted to do an update to Feisty, and I used the CD, does it update via the internet?
[07:36] <wolferine> Olive1, Feisty?
[07:36] <Olive1> yes v 7
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, not initially, i don't think
[07:36] <instructor> shouldn't var[1] ="$file" work?
[07:37] <Olive1> are there some commands i can run to check status
[07:37] <instructor> Olive1: Status?
[07:37] <Olive1> as in if the hw is working ok
[07:37] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, I attempted to do an Internet install yesterday, but I had an issue, to enough drive space, so I just decided to do a CD install, which is now attempting to dl upgrades
[07:37] <Olive1> then i know if its just the config
[07:37] <wolferine> but i had assusmed they were on the CD....
[07:38] <instructor> Olive1: What hw?
[07:38] <Olive1> hardware
[07:38] <instructor> Olive1: All hw?
[07:38] <Olive1> well just wifi
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, hmm, clean installed the beta myself, not sure about that
[07:38] <wolferine> Olive1, what is your question exactly, your in the right place btw :)
[07:38] <wolferine> k, thanks hitmanWilly
[07:38] <Olive1> lol - ok
[07:38] <instructor> !wifi
[07:38] <Olive1> my question is
[07:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:38] <Olive1> just done an install of v 7 on my ibm t42
[07:38] <Olive1> and all seems good
[07:39] <Olive1> except
[07:39] <Olive1> wifi
[07:39] <Chem242> anyone able to answer a newb question
[07:39] <Jucato> fire away
[07:39] <wolferine> Olive1, on irc, people usually expect ppl to ask there questions, not just ask to ask :)
[07:39] <Jucato> !ask
[07:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:39] <instructor> !someone | Chem242
[07:39] <ubotu> Chem242: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:39] <Jucato> !someone
[07:39] <wolferine> Olive1, did you check google?
[07:39] <Olive1> and i wanted to know if you could suggest some commands to run to see if the hardware is working ok and how i can check the config
[07:39] <instructor> !wifi | Olive1
[07:39] <ubotu> Olive1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:40] <Olive1> yes - im stuck now
[07:40] <wolferine> for setting up the wifi...
[07:40] <instructor> !newb
[07:40] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:40] <instructor> !anyone
[07:40] <Chem242> I just installed for the first time...new version 7.0.4...HP laptop...no wifi...did someresearch have a Broadcom 4311BG PCI-E card....found this http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=home but don't understand how to install it
[07:40] <Olive1> is it know to be problematic on a imb t42?
[07:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:40] <instructor> Olive1: did You read the link above?
[07:41] <Olive1> yes - re-looking at it again now
[07:41] <instructor> !wifi | Chem242
[07:41] <ubotu> Chem242: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:41] <Sheazsche> using i810 with intel 915gm. When using google earth, the closer I zoom in, the whiter the entire window becomes. It is like there is a polygon overlay that is losing its transparency and turning white
[07:41] <Sheazsche> any ideas?
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> Chem242, broadcom cards generally dont work too well in linux, probably have to use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers
[07:41] <Chem242> hitmanWilly: how do I do that?
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> !ndiswrapper
[07:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:42] <Chem242> yeah looking at that now
[07:42] <wolferine> oh boys
[07:44] <bigdad1e> where do i get the driver cd for fiesty?
[07:44] <monacaxxx> re
[07:44] <LjL> bigdad1e: what is the driver cd?
[07:44] <monacaxxx> sorry again, isn't the flash player in any standard repository!?
[07:44] <bigdad1e> lol'
[07:44] <bigdad1e> nm
[07:45] <bigdad1e> has anyone had any problems with fiesty and wireless networks?
[07:45] <Sheazsche> help
[07:45] <lol> salut
[07:46] <MorganK> so... Do opera for Edgy work in fiesty?
[07:47] <lol> avez vous test la derniere version de kubuntu
[07:47] <eduardo> Jucato: im trying to upgrade, i open adept and it downloads the dist upgrade tool, but it never opens it
[07:47] <eduardo> Jucato: this is soulrider btw :P
[07:48] <Jucato> !fr | lol
[07:48] <ubotu> lol: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:48] <Jucato> eduardo: hm... we seem to be getting that problem a lot :(
[07:48] <lol> ok merci
[07:48] <eduardo> oh wait, my repos are feisty now i think
[07:50] <eduardo> Jucato: will the new files still go under /var/apt/cache ?
[07:50] <eduardo> i wanna know if i can copy them to that dir on another PC to make the upgradego fast
[07:50] <Jucato> eduardo:  /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:50] <Elite2142_> i need help :|
[07:50] <vbgunz> I keep downloading the dist-upgrade tool. It tells me to click finish to close Adept but it doesn't close it. I close it and nothing happens :(
[07:50] <eduardo> like if it had already downloaded the packages
[07:50] <eduardo> yeah Jucato, that one
[07:50] <eduardo> vbgunz: same happens here
[07:50] <pingveno> I kill an apt/dpkg related process and I think it left a lock sitting around. How do I clear it?
[07:50] <eduardo> restart adept and click on fetch updates
[07:51] <eduardo> see if your repos changed to feisty
[07:51] <Elite2142_> how come when I try sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer I get this error "E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-installer"
[07:51] <vbgunz> my repos did change to feisty :(
[07:51] <eduardo> Elite2142_: try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:51] <frano486> hi
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:51] <SkyblastAtWork> I finally restarted my upgrade. It didn't work out =/
[07:51] <eduardo> vbgunz: try upgrading all packages
[07:52] <Elite2142_> already the newist version?
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, or if that doesn't work, a reboot will clear any lcoks
[07:52] <eduardo> Elite2142_: yes
[07:52] <Elite2142_> I need the flash plugin though it sais I havn't got
[07:52] <pingveno> hmmmm
[07:52] <Elite2142_> on firefox
[07:52] <SkyblastAtWork> It kept trying to fsck the drive when it booted up, but even when I booted from a live disc and fixed it, it still wanted to at boot. It would get to kdm, but then wouldn't let me log in past that.
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> Elite2142_, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[07:53] <pingveno> hitmanWilly: I'm not sure about clearing locks, but I think it just started upgrading my system.
[07:53] <pingveno> That is, by the way, a good thing
[07:53] <slicknick> hat I can move a 700 mb file around on.
[07:53] <slicknick> I have a 700 mb pdf that I need to take to the printer and I can't ftp it.
[07:53] <slicknick> thanks
[07:53] <slicknick> danny
[07:53] <slicknick> Hide Section - Web Information
[07:53] <slicknick> Web Information
[07:53] <slicknick> shit
[07:53] <Cugel> Well, I'm on Feisty. Can it be that it _looks_ better (fonts etc)?
[07:53] <bluewave> how can I get xfce installed on my kubuntu, I hate how kde uses up half my ram
[07:53] <slicknick> whoops
[07:53] <vbgunz> eduardo: earlier this morning, I actually had the new update window on screen but it vomited two errors and froze to death so I killed it, then I apt-get -f install, configured and still have errors... forget about it, something is borked and I cannot solve it, I am a fish out of water here :(
[07:53] <slicknick> my bad
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, all that cmd i gave you does is install any packages that apt downloaded
[07:53] <pingveno> Ah
[07:53] <pingveno> Right
[07:53] <eduardo> vbgunz: i love using aptitude, try aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:54] <pingveno> hitmanWilly: Then I suppose I'll have to continue the update through adept, no?
[07:54] <styvy> blueweave, download xubuntu
[07:54] <eduardo> bluewave: try installing the package called "xubuntu-desktop"
[07:54] <bluewave> styvy, maybe I don't wanna!
[07:54] <vbgunz> eduardo: I did apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, someone sabotaged me :(
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, when apt errors out it sometimes leaves locks and unconfigured packages lying around
[07:54] <pingveno> ah
[07:54] <pingveno> yes
[07:54] <eduardo> vbgunz: use aptitude, i heard its better than apt-get in some cases
[07:55] <Elite2142_> where can I find the "ubuntu restricted area package"?
[07:55] <pingveno> In this case bits of it were basically dead, so I killed dpkg
[07:56] <vbgunz> eduardo: won't hurt to try I suppose, am doing it now and am getting extra packages 33mb, this could be it
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> Elite2142_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:56] <Elite2142_> kthx
[07:56] <wolferine> how can I speed up access my drives, can I setup Nautilus to not scan my network drives on startup, just accessing them when I click on the mount?
[07:56] <albin_> is it a bad idea to upgrade via adept today? I see that the download is very slow... heavy loaded servers?
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, just enable noauto in fstab
[07:56] <eduardo> vbgunz: my pc seems to be ugrading to feisty via adept now, not the dist-upgrade tool
[07:57] <eduardo> im going to my other PC, im soulrider there
[07:57] <vbgunz> I swear something told me to wait about a week and listen for news about the upgrade woes, I was sure their would be some :P
[07:57] <wolferine> hitmanWilly, for all, even nfs and smb mounts?
[07:57] <eduardo> lol vbgunz i thought th same
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yes, linux treats a smbfs just like any other mount
[07:57] <vbgunz> heh, aptitude seems to be downloading stuff apt-get missed OR something just got updated
[07:58] <SkyblastAtWork> I had a feeling the upgrade would screw me up, but I did it anyway, and lo and behold i have a destroyed system ;)
[07:58] <vbgunz> SkyblastAtWork: welcome to the club :)
[07:58] <bluewave> this distribution update thing takes forever
[07:58] <wolferine> to confirm my fstab settings are correct, can I restart a service?
[07:58] <soulrider> vbgunz: im back :P
[07:58] <bluewave> anyone else updating to the new release of feisty
[07:58] <wolferine> blue, I am
[07:58] <hitmanWilly> bluewave, yes, especially with the servers getting hammered like they are
[07:58] <soulrider> bluewave: thats because the repos cant handle so many people updating
[07:59] <vbgunz> aptitude almost done at 90% now, hope it don't choke
[07:59] <SkyblastAtWork> but it's cool. I learned from Edgy to not entirely trust upgrading, so /home (and everything else important) is on a seperate partition, so I can just do a clean install and remount all those.
[07:59] <soulrider> kubuntu should have mirrors for the repos
[07:59] <bluewave> 17% here
[07:59] <Sheazsche> Option "May_Need_ForceBIOS" "1"  in device
[07:59] <soulrider> in Arch i use aria2 to download my packages from more than one repo at a time
[08:00] <vbgunz> damn, same errors :(
[08:00] <yasser> why does ubuntu not have the special HP printer device manager while kubuntu has it??
[08:00] <vbgunz> python-minimal is killing me :(
[08:02] <albin_> how long did the upgrade with adept take for you guys?
[08:02] <bluewave> it's taken me like 2 hours to get 19%
[08:03] <bluewave> not cool
[08:03] <aro> You and everyone's grandma is trying to get it
[08:03] <albin_> :-)
[08:03] <slicknick> anyone seen this sort of behavior from rdesktop before? this is a dual monitor screenshot with an rdesktop session to a windows machine on the right side of the image. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ushbav
[08:03] <vbgunz> well sudo aptitude upgrade seems to be upgrading packages... maybe after, I can dist-upgrade (hopefully)
[08:03] <bluewave> why can't everyones grandma just wait!
[08:04] <aro> She doesn't have much time left, and her last wish was to see Feisty in action!
[08:04] <stoft> gg@aro
[08:05] <stoft> I've simply decided to wait, maybe I'll start the upgrade tonight, last thing I do before I head to bed...
[08:05] <vbgunz> stoft: I think you should probably wait it out a couple days and keep track of the forums on issues
[08:06] <sylvisj> Can I get the assitance of a cedega user?
[08:06] <albin_> well our grandmas will not make it with this speed...
[08:06] <vbgunz> my personal exeprience upgrading is not too cool OR just do what I did and follow the rules carefully, good luck :)
[08:07] <stoft> vbgunz: yeah maybe... if I've waited this long...
[08:07] <albin_> thanks :-)
[08:07] <sylvisj> bah, #cedega is all but dead
[08:08] <monika__> hi
[08:08] <bigdad1e_> i need my subnet mask ip to manually set up my knetworkmanager bc its not working
[08:08] <pingveno> Well, this upgrade is certainly going a bit smoother than when I was doing Gentoo upgrades....
[08:08] <monika__> adept crashed and now when I start it it says there is a lock
[08:08] <monika__> I guess I can delete some files to delete the lock
[08:08] <monika__> which ones?
[08:08] <bluewave> monika__, no
[08:09] <monika__> bluewave, what should I do then
[08:09] <bluewave> you can't delete them if there's a lock, lol
[08:09] <monika__> bluewave, what are you saying?
[08:09] <bluewave> restart, or kill process that is locking it
[08:09] <sylvisj> vbgunz: you had my hopes up when you joined #cedega, then promptly crushed them
[08:09] <bluewave> delete files, lol you are a real noob
[08:09] <monika__> bluewave, how much unix experience do you have?
[08:10] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys..... i cant upgrade to fiesty fawn because its telling me i need about 300mb more of diskspace... but i wanna know what i can uninstall or take out.... i have 5gbs partitioned to kubuntu.... so i really dont know why i even need space
[08:10] <bluewave> like, 5 years...
[08:10] <ForzaPalermo> any help is appreciated. thanks
[08:10] <vbgunz> sylvisj: heh, sorry about that I don't use it :(
[08:10] <bluewave> press ctrl+delete
[08:10] <monika__> "<bluewave> you can't delete them if there's a lock"
[08:10] <wolferine> to confirm my fstab settings are correct, can I restart a service?
[08:10] <monika__> anybody that has a real answer?
[08:11] <wolferine> or does it take effect immediately?
[08:11] <Jucato> !adeptfix | monika__
[08:11] <ubotu> monika__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:11] <npurciful> I upgrade to Feisty and i seem to have problems exec shell scripts from portable USB HDD. Has anyone had this problem or know anything about it.
[08:11] <monika__> Jucato, thank you very much
[08:12] <lavid> npurciful: me too!
[08:12] <lavid> npurciful: i had that problem last night. it was driving me nuts
[08:13] <bluewave> monika__, you can't delete locked files...
[08:13] <npurciful> hum
[08:13] <bluewave> monika__, what's wrong with that?
[08:13] <monika__> bluewave, for your information there is no lock file concept in unix
[08:13] <monika__> that's a windows thing
[08:13] <bluewave> no?
[08:14] <npurciful> lavid: I tried reinstalling that didnt help, weird
[08:14] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[08:14] <lavid> npurciful: yeah, i had the issue on a fresh install
[08:15] <npurciful> lavid: I have been researching it but have found a solution.
[08:15] <DarkWizzard> Hello.When I'm trying to upgrade to feisty I get an error about gzip exiting with error code 1
[08:15] <DarkWizzard> when trying to download Packages.gz
[08:16] <ju_> can someone tell me where do I have to go for a problem with my laptop touchpad on festy ?
[08:16] <DarkWizzard> kubuntu
[08:16] <lavid> npurciful: the solution is easy, but getting it fixed by default is the goal
[08:16] <npurciful> lavid: true
[08:16] <what_if> I have no WM when running beryl, how do I fix / enable it
[08:16] <Jucato> Beryl *is* the WM
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> has anyone experienced this error ?
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> I searched on the forums
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> but no solution
[08:17] <hitmanWilly> what_if, do you use nvidia?
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> and I heard that it is not advised to upgrade manually
[08:17] <vbgunz> brb
[08:17] <lavid> what_if: , Jucato i think he means that his window decorations don't show up
[08:17] <DarkWizzard> and I know it's not from experience
[08:17] <what_if> Jucato: yes, but the WM is not running, no "minimise, max, close", in upper right
[08:17] <janjan> hey s there any one who knows the change da desktop resolution?
[08:18] <what_if> hitmanWilly: yes, nvidia
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> janjan: man xrandr
[08:18] <Jucato> what_if: install Aquamarine, then from the Beryl system tray menu, choose Aquamarine as your window decorator
[08:18] <janjan> ok thanks
[08:18] <gdiebel> wolferine: just reboot.
[08:18] <Jucato> what_if: also... try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[08:18] <hitmanWilly> what_if, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals, then restart x
[08:18] <Elite2142_> I done sudo apt-get install ubuntu-enchanted-extras and it downloaded and installed, I restarted firefox and still same error :|
[08:18] <DarkWizzard> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:19] <wolferine> gdiebel, is that whats required, or just a suggestion?
[08:19] <DarkWizzard> what is causing this ?
[08:20] <what_if> hitmanWilly: ok, restarting X
[08:21] <lavid> npurciful: i'm filing a bug report now
[08:22] <tarelerulz> beside the location are in Kubuntu's konqeror it has filter and I wanted to do that in my ubuntu konqeror do any of you know how to do that
[08:23] <hitmanWilly> what_if, how'd it go?
[08:23] <what_if> the nvidia-xconfig line worked... :)
[08:23] <vicks> i can't get usb to work in feisty, can someone help me? i have installed kubuntu feisty, and nothing happens when i insert usb-peripherals. i can't even install ubuntu (gnome), cause the installation hangs at the end when trying to load the usb-starage module.
[08:23] <what_if> hitmanWilly: works 100%
[08:24] <hitmanWilly> what_if, emerald (the beryl window manager) needs ARGB GLX Visuals turned on to work
[08:24] <ForzaPalermo> how could kubuntu take up almost 5gb without having installed much of anything besides the os??
[08:24] <hitmanWilly> what_if, took me a couple hours to figure that one out :)
[08:25] <what_if> hitmanWilly: well I'm glad you were here, I was benging my head on the keyboard (figuretively)
[08:25] <what_if> *banging
[08:25] <hitmanWilly> what_if, figuratively? i do it literally like every day :)
[08:25] <Cugel> Question: how do I enable the new desktop effects? Everything on the internet speaks about Gnome.
[08:26] <tarelerulz> You all are running Kubuntu and if so have you ever notice that  search bar beside the main one where you can go to dirs and url
[08:26] <what_if> hitmanWilly: I save that for work, I administer XP machines (and an XP server)
[08:26] <tarelerulz> Of Konqeror
[08:26] <hitmanWilly> what_if, i feel sorry for you now...
[08:27] <what_if> hitmanWilly: yeah, MS SQL 2000 on an XP machine == pain
[08:27] <hitmanWilly> ugh
[08:27] <what_if> hitmanWilly: beryl seems to be on "random" for the effects... oh no,no,no :)
[08:27] <gdiebel> wolferine: nothing is required after making changes to fstab. if a new mount point is added, though, you may need to restart so it can be automounted or seen by hal.
[08:28] <frojnd> why the f** would allways close my amarok when I prees on the icon ?? here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16615/
[08:28] <Elite2142> The plugins still dont work :|
[08:30] <JanK_> i just closed adept_updater during update to feisty, because it hang during installation (on 10%).
[08:30] <kalorin> JanK, you're in big trouble!
[08:30] <shinobi> allright. two machines over to feisty and back functioning. think this has been the smoothest one yet.
[08:30] <wolferine> frojnd, reinstall
[08:30] <JanK_> now i can't restart it, since it locked the apt file
[08:31] <Elite2142> janK , i done that and had to format :|
[08:31] <frojnd> wolferine: how
[08:31] <Elite2142> well that was on ubuntu and went to kubuntu so i was going to anyway
[08:31] <tarelerulz> In Kubuntu's version of Konqeror there is  what look like search bar beside the main place where you put urls and dir searchs Do any of you know what to install to get the second search bar
[08:31] <JanK_> how to see which locks the file "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[08:31] <wolferine> frojnd, are you not familiar with installing software?
[08:32] <frojnd> woferine: I didn't installed it manually
[08:32] <wolferine> thats not what I asked though
[08:32] <peaker> I just booted Windows for the first time in ages. It sure is ugly and has much less nice Free stuff.  But it does launch firefox and other apps *instantly*, where it takes 2-5 seconds on Kubuntu :-(
[08:33] <kalorin> peaker I only saw instantly if it was already in memory
[08:33] <kalorin> otherwise it was about the same speed
[08:34] <peaker> kalorin: donno, maybe, but even in memory stuff here doesn't launch as fast
[08:34] <gdiebel> wolferine: curious; why did you need to modify fstab?
[08:34] <peaker> takes 2-3 seconds to relaunch firefox, whereas it is unnoticable 0 time on Windows
[08:34] <wolferine> gdiebel, working on making my drive accesses faster
[08:34] <CapaH> I am hoping someone can help me out... I have an ATI card, I just finished installing Feisty from a LIVE CD (iso downloaded from ubuntu.com) --- install went fine, but I had to set the video mode using F4 when the LIVE CD started (I set it to 1024x768) --- but now when I boot the comp, it crashes at the splash screen -- I suspect it due to either video drivers or resolution, but xorg.conf is set to 1024x768 --- any ideas?
[08:34] <gdiebel> wolferine: your cdrom?
[08:35] <wolferine> no
[08:35] <wolferine> everything
[08:37] <wolferine> nautilus is taking quite a time to read my drives
[08:38] <wolferine> so I am mainly trying to work with my smb/nfs mounts, to getting a better response time
[08:38] <frojnd> wolferine: I only now how to remove the amarok package and than install it. But not in one command to reinstall it. So if u know I would be much grateful
[08:38] <bud> Kubuntu 6.06in box, can Idownload Kubuntu 7.04?
[08:39] <wolferine> frojnd, do that, remove, reinstall
[08:39] <weedar> does apt-get have a log so I can see which packages were removed during last upgrade?
[08:42] <gdiebel> weedar: cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:42] <weedar> gdiebel: thanks! :)
[08:42] <frojnd> why update don't wanna to get through: I was doing update like 20 times yesterday and 10 times today: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16619/
[08:43] <zaza> salut
[08:43] <weedar> frojnd: my uneducated guess is that the http://si.archive.ubuntu.com repository is down
[08:43] <wolferine> !fr  | zaza
[08:43] <ubotu> zaza: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:44] <gdiebel> frojnd: don't hammer the servers. just have a little patience
[08:44] <frojnd> gdiebel: I am having patience for 30 hours now..
[08:44] <weedar> frojnd: you could try changing the prefix "si" to another country, I'm using no and it works fine
[08:45] <zerak> is ubuntu and kubuntu still overloaded of all downloads and if it fails to download could that be the reason?
[08:45] <frojnd> and why amarok still crashes after I reinstalled it
[08:45] <frojnd> (I am using feisty beta)
[08:46] <zerak> feisty isnt beta anymore
[08:46] <gdiebel> frojnd: for amarok crashes see #amarok
[08:46] <zerak> it fails to update to feisty, is this due to the large demand ?
[08:48] <zerak> since it reference to a site and direction that doesnt exist
[08:49] <wolferine> can I view an nfs drive, like a smb drive, in my ftpd, proftpd?
[08:49] <zerak> Failed to fetch http://bonca.hu/~rizsanyi/debian/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[08:49] <zerak> Failed to fetch http://bonca.hu/~rizsanyi/debian/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[08:50] <gdiebel> zerak: some of the archive.ubuntu.com mirrors have become unavailable due to excessive demand for feisty. consider using a different mirror or wait until load is lessened
[08:50] <zerak> i didnt pick the mirror
[08:50] <zerak> kubuntu update did
[08:51] <tarelerulz> any of you heard of this plugin for konqeror Folder View Filter
[08:51] <zerak> that was what i previously asked, if it was due to all people
[08:51] <Eskim0> what does it mean when I get this error?? "unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[08:53] <nzk> where is the trash
[08:53] <nzk> "empty trash" doesnt work
[08:53] <gdiebel> Eskim0: what does 'file -i /etc/fstab' ?
[08:53] <Eskim0> gdiebel that is what I think it is
[08:54] <gdiebel> nzk: .local/share/Trash
[08:54] <Eskim0> gdiebel I am trying to set a partition to auto mount at starup
[08:55] <nzk> gdiebel, not there
[08:55] <zerak> galebel: thanks for the info i will try again to update tomorrow
[08:56] <dhq> fdoving: the flash in my konqueror doesnt work
[08:56] <atidem> ciao
[08:56] <gdiebel> nzk: try: cd ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[08:57] <zerak> really hope they will fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:58] <user_> !ati
[08:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <dhq>  the flash in my konqueror doesnt work
[08:59] <alesan^> hi, what is the best way to mount rw a ntfs partition?
[09:01] <gdiebel> !ntfs | alesan^
[09:01] <ubotu> alesan^: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:02] <alesan^> !ntfs-3g
[09:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:02] <VSpike> Fiesty fails to install for me ... bails when installing grub.  Is this a known problem?
[09:03] <VSpike> I also really hate the way the installer takes ages to load disk paritioner with no visual indication of what it is doing, apart from disabled next and back buttons...
[09:03] <wolferine> can I get a link on how to update to Feisty?
[09:03] <VSpike> All that time spent figuring out how much it could shrink parititions by, when I don't want to do that.. I want a manual setup. It should ask auto or manual first IMO.
[09:03] <wolferine> i am having a really hard time with it
[09:04] <VSpike> There's also a bug.. it wants to format the swap partition even if the box is not ticked to format it.
[09:05] <vbgunz> upgrading sucks for me, it's killing my day :(
[09:05] <VSpike> And when you get to the page where it says what it's about to do to your disks, if you hit back it takes you right back to the start of the partitioning tool and spends another few minutes scanning the disks
[09:07] <gdiebel> vbgunz: consider waiting until another day to upgrade. that is _if_ your system was left in a usable state.
[09:08] <wolferine> i have the CD, but it seems it needs to connect to my repos to update
[09:08] <wolferine> which I am nost sure why
[09:08] <vbgunz> gdiebel: yeah, it appears I will have to no doubt do this :(
[09:11] <maki> where can i setip the dns providers
[09:12] <wolferine> maki, for what
[09:12] <wolferine> i maybe able to help
[09:12] <maki> i have problem
[09:12] <maki> i have net
[09:12] <wolferine> really, thats why most of us are here :)
[09:12] <chewietoy> hehe ye
[09:12] <maki> but the browsers arent working with domains
[09:12] <vbgunz> holy crap
[09:12] <maki> only with ip
[09:13] <wolferine> which browser
[09:13] <maki> every
[09:13] <vbgunz> somehow someway, ipython for Python2.5 was holding my dist-upgrade back... I uninstalled ipython and it appears I am dist-upgrading just fine :D
[09:13] <wolferine> which?
[09:13] <maki> konqueror
[09:13] <maki> mozila
[09:13] <Fishy> Is there a workaround to get the drivers from ati homepage to install in feisty?
[09:13] <maki> opera
[09:13] <vbgunz> I'll reinstall ipython but wtf could cause this to happen?
[09:13] <wolferine> FF you mean
[09:13] <Fishy> It complains that my X version is not supported
[09:13] <wolferine> ok, and what domain, all, or just one?
[09:13] <maki> yep
[09:13] <Fishy> Although it should be
[09:14] <maki> all
[09:14] <wolferine> this a new install maki?
[09:14] <maki> no
[09:14] <wolferine> maki, change your settings recently?
[09:14] <maki> now stoped working
[09:14] <maki> no
[09:14] <wolferine> are you sure
[09:14] <maki> yes
[09:14] <maki> i run adept
[09:14] <wolferine> and it was working before
[09:15] <maki> yep
[09:15] <wolferine> ok, well you obviously changed something
[09:15] <wolferine> it doesnt just "stop" working all by itself
[09:15] <maki> yes
[09:15] <maki> i know
[09:15] <wolferine> catch my drift?
[09:15] <wolferine> if you know, then you must have changed something
[09:16] <rohan> i have plain ubuntu (gnome) installed. i want to install kubuntu. i am not on linux now, so is there any way i can generate a list of packages to be downloaded ?
[09:16] <wolferine> as you were saying, you ran adept...
[09:16] <orient2000> Hi! My bottom bar on desktop use to hide automaticly and now I can not get it back. How can I get into setup? There is nothing in a systemsetting.
[09:16] <wolferine> orient2000, scroll near it
[09:16] <wolferine> move the mouse to the bottom
[09:16] <orient2000> nothing.
[09:17] <wolferine> orent, sure you didnt just remove it?
[09:17] <gdiebel> orient2000: try Alt+F1, this will launch kmenu
[09:17] <vbgunz> rohan: try just installing kubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <asmith42b> This is trivial, I know: Are there any IMers that let you do custom emoticons?
[09:18] <wolferine> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <rohan> vbgunz: that's exactly what i want to do, but i need a list of packages to be downloaded with it, because i can download for free here, but ubuntu is not installed here
[09:18] <gdiebel> asmith42b: gaim
[09:18] <rohan> can someone please paste the output of 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris'
[09:19] <wolferine> no pastebin
[09:19] <wolferine> on*
[09:19] <rohan> yes ,there
[09:19] <vbgunz> rohan: I'd do it but am upgrading now
[09:19] <rohan> vbgunz: :(
[09:19] <asmith42b> gdiebel: Really? I'll have to look more closely. I haven't found that option yet.
[09:19] <orient2000> Thanks. I did fixt it in configure panel. Now it works.
[09:19] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/450311
[09:19] <l_r> hello
[09:19] <wolferine> there you are
[09:19] <l_r> is kubuntu ready?
[09:20] <l_r> 7.04 i mean
[09:20] <cloakable> Yes
[09:20] <wolferine> feisty is out
[09:20] <l_r> even in dvd version?
[09:20] <wolferine> correct
[09:20] <rohan> thanks, wolferine
[09:20] <wolferine> rohan, np
[09:20] <Rogue> ah great
[09:20] <vbgunz> rohan: well apt allowed me to do it in another session but I am told I already have the latest version of kubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <Rogue> I guessed this channel and this server
[09:21] <Rogue> can anyone help me install kubuntu? I'm having difficulty with the latest version
[09:21] <rohan> vbgunz: oh well :(
[09:21] <pCarsten> has anyone here had success installing fop on ubuntu?
[09:21] <gdiebel> Rogue: error?
[09:21] <rohan> because i have no way of accessing the ubuntu machine atm
[09:21] <Rogue> gdiebel: http://www.imagepup.com/up/53Yj_1177096386_snapshot1.png
[09:21] <l_r> where is the link to the dvd version???
[09:22] <vbgunz> wolferine: how did you get that list?
[09:22] <zerak> uhm, USB Memory Stick Booting doesnt just boot and ask you a question about installing it, right? There should be a sticky that warn about inserting it without intending to remove current OS...
[09:22] <rohan> wolferine: had you added the --print-uris ?
[09:22] <l_r> there's only a link to dvd-torrent-thing
[09:22] <wolferine> vbgunz, which list?
[09:22] <l_r> i do not even know what a torrent is
[09:22] <vbgunz> list of kubuntu-desktop apps
[09:22] <wolferine> yes, rohan, it wasnt all those
[09:22] <Rogue> I want it to install on the last partition but if I click next it says "no root file system is defined please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[09:22] <rohan> wolferine: well, because the URLS werent' printed .. strange
[09:23] <rockstar-alt> hello any 1 here
[09:24] <wolferine> urls?
[09:24] <wolferine> for what?
[09:24] <wolferine> the repos
[09:24] <rohan> no, the package urls
[09:24] <rohan> there was a command which prints out the package urls
[09:24] <rohan> yes, it is "--print-uris"
[09:24] <l_r> why is so difficult to get links to the dvd versions through ftp? i always have to ask here as the homepage does not have direct links
[09:25] <Rogue> gdiebel: any ideas?
[09:25] <rohan> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris -y
[09:25] <gdiebel> Rogue: looks like you need to set mountpoints for / and swap
[09:25] <rockstar-alt> im a newbie i need some help but havent got the time now ill leave this channel open untill i get back from work at 4.00am
[09:25] <hendaus> can anyone tell me about a good addon to download videos from youtube?
[09:25] <wolferine> l_r, torrents
[09:26] <rohan> can you check whether that command prints individual urls of .deb files, wolferine ?
[09:26] <Rogue> gdiebel: what does that mean?
[09:26] <wolferine> that was what it printed
[09:26] <gdiebel> Rogue: click on sda1 , edit partition, set mount point to /
[09:26] <l_r> wolferine, only torrents?
[09:26] <l_r> what are them?
[09:26] <Rogue> ok
[09:26] <wolferine> l_r, google it
[09:26] <gdiebel> Rogue: click on sda5, edit partition, set mount to swap
[09:26] <vbgunz> am going to reboot, hopefully my upgrade didn't break apart :(
[09:27] <wolferine> rohan, u need the repos, use the ubuntu guide (google it)
[09:27] <gdiebel> Rogue: be careful here. are those partitions blank?
[09:27] <Rogue> no I was about to ask
[09:27] <rohan> wolferine: i know ..
[09:27] <Rogue> I don't want to format any of these
[09:27] <wolferine> with proftpd, I just setup a nfs share, i can view my smb shares when connecting, but not the nfs shares ( not a permissions issue)
[09:27] <Rogue> can I not just have it install on the last fat32 partition? :(
[09:27] <wolferine> rohan, what do you want from me?
[09:27] <Rogue> I appreciate the help by the way. This is the first time I've considered installing linux.
[09:28] <rockstar-alt> can any 1 help me with this >> direct rendering: No
[09:28] <rockstar-alt> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:28] <rohan> wolferine: output of the command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --print-uris -y" if it's not too inconvenient ... please check if it prints out the URLs of specific pakcages to be downloaded
[09:28] <gdiebel> Rogue: what is one first hard disk, sda?
[09:29] <CVirus> The updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?
[09:29] <wolferine> yes, your highness
[09:29] <gdiebel> s/one/on
[09:29] <Rogue> the first hard disk is a 250GB SATA drive partitioned into 2 NTFS partitions of 50 and 200 each
[09:29] <Rogue> the first 50 has windows on it and the 200 has data
[09:29] <wolferine> rohan, ill pastebin, one sec
[09:30] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/450325
[09:30] <wolferine> there you are
[09:30] <CVirus> !adept
[09:30] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:30] <slicknick> yall got a pastebin for screenshots?
[09:30] <wolferine> a pastebin?
[09:30] <asmith42b> gdiebel: gaim allows you to install custom smiley packages, but not just add new ones on the fly, with custom keystrokes, which is what I'm after.
[09:30] <wolferine> um, not sure
[09:31] <slicknick> sorry
[09:31] <slicknick> meant tinyimg
[09:31] <slicknick> so i can show a screenshot ...
[09:31] <gdiebel> Rogue: ok sorry misread the image the first time. so second disk with those fat32 partitions is up to be formatted?
[09:31] <ubuntu> hello
[09:31] <Rogue> um ideally no :/
[09:31] <CapaH> Q) I cannot boot into KDE unless I first take off "splash" during boot --- It will not go into the splash screen. What happens is, at the screen where you choose the OS to boot, as soon as it starts to load the flash screen both monitors go "No signal" and my caps lock+scroll lock keys flash until I reboot. I am using an ATI X800 --- Any help is tremendously appreciated. -- anyone?
[09:31] <rockstar-alt> hello can u help me plz
[09:31] <rohan> wolferine: great ! thanks :)
[09:31] <wolferine> np
[09:31] <Rogue> can I do this without formatting, gdiebel?
[09:31] <wolferine> slicknick, you post it on your website :)
[09:32] <CVirus> The updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?
[09:32] <slicknick> i dunt have no website :P
[09:32] <slicknick> anyone seen this sort of behavior from rdesktop before? this is a dual monitor screenshot with an rdesktop session to a windows machine on the right side of the image. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ushbav
[09:32] <wolferine> CVirus, kill it, open a shell, sudo ps -A
[09:32] <wolferine> then look for the installer's process id
[09:32] <mkirk> hello! Was anyone able to get netowrking to work with feisty on a thinkpad T40(ish)
[09:32] <Rogue> I just want it to install on the last fat32 partition whilst leaving what is there alone (nothing there would have names conflicting with kubuntu's root folders)
[09:32] <CVirus> wolferine: did that already .. it's not running
[09:32] <wolferine> then do sudo kill -9 process_id
[09:32] <l_r> it seems the link to the dvd "torrent" is down. could oyu confirm?
[09:33] <CVirus> !adept lock
[09:33] <wolferine> CVirus, ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:33] <l_r> i am getting mad to just doewnload a damn .iso dvd image
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <CVirus> wolferine: why ?
[09:33] <wolferine> to exit the wm, then log back in
[09:33] <CVirus> wolferine: why ?
[09:33] <wolferine> its froze
[09:33] <wolferine> that will kill it
[09:33] <gdiebel> Rogue: not in this case, you need at least 2 partitions to be formatted for linux. they need to use a file system called ext3. perhaps you could consolidate some of the data on those partitions and free one up. the 20gb would be enough space
[09:34] <the-erm> the updater crashed ... It never completed what should I do?
[09:34] <CapaH> If anyone said something directed to me I had to reboot
[09:34] <wolferine> the-erm, try it again
[09:34] <Rogue> bah.
[09:34] <the-erm> wolferine: can't.
[09:34] <CVirus> wolferine: I killed it already
[09:34] <wolferine> the-erm, what error
[09:34] <Rogue> so I have to have some space dedicated to ext3?
 The updgrade tool crashed while installing the packages and it freezed now ... wtf shall I do ?
[09:34] <the-erm> wolferine: I started adept_updater It thinks 7.04 is installed, but never restarted.
[09:34] <gdiebel> Rogue: yes you cannot use fat32 for linux
[09:35] <Rogue> oh
[09:35] <wolferine> then I instructed you to kill it, which you were not able to do
[09:35] <Rogue> damn, I thought it could.
[09:35] <wolferine> now you said it is, so problem solved?
[09:35] <Rogue> :(
[09:35] <gdiebel> Rogue: perhaps consolidate the files from those other partitions and free one up
[09:35] <CVirus> wolferine: It locked the .deb database ... do i rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[09:36] <Rogue> yeah, I can delete stuff I have backed up to DVD. TV series etc
[09:36] <Rogue> question:
[09:36] <wolferine> CVirus, not sure
[09:36] <gdiebel> Rogue: you may have heard that linux supports mounting fat32, which it can, but not for its root file system
[09:36] <Rogue> how can I see those current drives
[09:36] <Rogue> are they under /sds/
[09:36] <Rogue> if you can't tell I really have very little experience with this :P
[09:36] <wolferine> the-erm, what error are you having?
[09:37] <CVirus> the freakin' upgrade tool crashed and left my system crappy !!!
[09:37] <gdiebel> Rogue: reboot into windows and use whatever you are comfortable with to free up the space, then use windows disk management tool to delete the partition. then kubuntu will auto partition the freed space.
[09:38] <Rogue> ok
[09:38] <CVirus> stupid binary distro
[09:38] <andreasw> german umlauts and the  isn't displayed correctly in the console (the real one ;) ) how can I change this behaviour?
[09:38] <Rogue> I'd prefer that to having to use partitiontragic
[09:38] <andreasw> if I install ubuntu I see them (but not under Kubuntu)
[09:39] <Rogue> I wonder if windows will hold up long enough for me to move all my files off one partition though ;)
[09:39] <gdiebel> Rogue: check the ubuntu faq on paritioning before proceeding. I would not want you to mess up your system because of my advise
[09:39] <Rogue> yeah
[09:39] <Rogue> windows has been BSODing on me all week
[09:39] <Rogue> to be fair I think it's my RAM but kubuntu hasn't crashed yet now that I'm trying to run it in anger
[09:39] <Rogue> so I shall give it the benefit of the doubt :P
[09:39] <thill2708_> how do I get java applets to run in konqueror?
[09:40] <thill2708_> I keep getting told that java isn't installed, and I know it is
[09:40] <gdiebel> Rogue: a good way to tell if it is ram is to do the memtest on the kubuntu cd
[09:40] <Rogue> I ran memtest86+ already
[09:40] <Rogue> I know my RAM is dying :(
[09:40] <andreasw> thill2708_: check the java settings in konqueror
[09:40] <MinceR> do you know of window managers with focus stealing prevention other than kwin, metacity, compiz and beryl?
[09:41] <gdiebel> Rogue: you mean you got errors from memtest?
[09:41] <Rogue> ohhhh yeah
[09:41] <Rogue> lots
[09:41] <thill2708_> andreasw; what am I looking for specifically?
[09:41] <thill2708_> java is enabled globally
[09:41] <CVirus> the freakin' upgrade tool crashed and left my system crappy !!!
[09:41] <gdiebel> Rogue: replace the ram before messing around with installing kubuntu
[09:41] <Rogue> definitely?
[09:41] <gdiebel> Rogue: trust me
[09:41] <andreasw> thill2708_: on the same screen you see a text field where you can set the path to java executable
[09:42] <Rogue> bleh but RMAing it will mean I have no PC for a week :P
[09:42] <wolferine> ncix?
[09:42] <Rogue> I want to see if I can hobble on with kubuntu for a bit :D
[09:43] <thill2708_> andreasw; thanks, that seemed to work. It said "java" before, but changing it to /usr/bin/java made it work. Wonder why?
[09:43] <andreasw> thill2708_: when did you install java?
[09:44] <thill2708_> whenever I installed kubuntu
[09:44] <chewietoy> how do i check verision of ubuntu that im running?
[09:44] <andreasw> thill2708_: ok ;) but did you log out and log in after installation?
[09:44] <ubuntu> hi
[09:44] <chewietoy> hi
[09:44] <thill2708_> andreasw; Yeah, sure, plenty of times. I've been running this for ~8 mos. now
[09:45] <andreasw> thill2708_: ok
[09:45] <u0526385> Alguien Habla espaol ?????????????????
[09:46] <andreasw> thill2708_: for some people it works just with "java" in the field and for others have to specify the full path
[09:46] <Rogue> gdiebel: can I see what files are in my FAT32 partitions from here, now?
[09:47] <colini> hi
[09:47] <colini> is there a torrent for kubutu 7.04 Live cd ?
[09:47] <wolferine> !sp | u0526385
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <wolferine> !eu | u0526385
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <wolferine> dang
[09:47] <wolferine> what country code :(
[09:47] <wolferine> !es | u0526385
[09:47] <ubotu> u0526385: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:48] <gdiebel> Rogue: sure. open a konsole. type: 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'
[09:48] <wolferine> ah, there we are
[09:48] <thill2708_> anyone familiar with gotomypc?
[09:48] <thill2708_> and using it in konqueror
[09:48] <thill2708_> ?
[09:48] <wolferine> thill2708_, connect problems?
[09:48] <wolferine> connection*
[09:48] <Rogue> gdiebel: can I, for the sake of argument, move files between FAT32 partitions?
[09:48] <_Thoth_> ow can i activate compiz in kubuntu ?
[09:48] <thill2708_> wolferine; well, more like can't load the applet/application in konq
[09:49] <wolferine> Rogue, think you maybe need to do some reading
[09:49] <thill2708_> just hangs at "loading applet"
[09:49] <wolferine> thill2708_, k, sorry, cannot help
[09:49] <thill2708_> hah, :) thanks anyhow
[09:49] <Rogue> wolferine: haha I know :)
[09:49] <dettoaltrimenti> question: if I have a text file, and I want to replace every instance of one phrase with another phrase (for example, replace every <div id="green"> with <div id="blue>, is there any way I can do this from the command line without actually going into vim?
[09:49] <gdiebel> Rogue: yeah check like wolferine said check the faq and read some info on linux file system handling, mount, fstab
[09:50] <Rogue> thanks
[09:50] <colini> dettoaltrimenti: you could use 'sed'
[09:50] <ubuntu> friends
[09:50] <ubuntu> i need help
[09:50] <wolferine> Rogue, what are you trying to setup exactly, or is it just hardware issues?
[09:50] <wolferine> ubuntu, just ask
[09:50] <ubuntu> !mp3
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <Rogue> at this very moment I want to mount my FAT32 partitions
[09:51] <mrigns> !fat32
[09:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:51] <thill2708_> ugh, airport wireless connections are hell to sudo apt-get upgrade on
[09:51] <Rogue> thanks
[09:51] <wolferine> Rogue, no, over all
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti> colini: so I should pipline something like... "cat foo.txt | sed (whatever I need to do) > foo.txt"?
[09:51] <_Thoth_> Who can help me? How can I activate Compiz un Kubuntu 7.04?
[09:52] <wolferine> activate?
[09:52] <ubuntu> WHich packages do i need to install in order for amarok to able to playback sounds?
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> aramrok can play sound already
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> you mean mp3?
[09:52] <ubuntu> yes
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !mp3
[09:52] <ubuntu> no it cant
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <ubuntu> i went there already
[09:53] <ubuntu> libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:53] <ubuntu> didnt work
[09:53] <ScottLij> how do I list all hard drive partitions? (including multiple hard drives and NTFS partitions)
[09:53] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[09:53] <ubuntu> so what now
[09:53] <Daisuke_Ido> libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[09:53] <gdiebel> dettoaltrimenti: http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt  <-- has sed oneliners that will help with your task
[09:53] <ubuntu> Couldn't find package libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <ubuntu> doesnt work what now?
[09:54] <wolferine> whose good with updating to Feisty?
[09:54] <ubuntu> :/
[09:54] <slicknick> ive got a dual monitor setup going -- why when i run a rdesktop from terminal in GNOME it opens on the right monitor, but when i run it the exact same way in KDE it opens on the left monitor?
[09:54] <ubuntu> HELP
[09:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: you need to enable the universe repository
[09:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !universe
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:54] <Cugel> Question: how do I enable the new desktop effects? Everything on the internet speaks about Gnome.
[09:54] <wolferine> Cugel what exactly?
[09:55] <gdiebel> !compiz | Cugel
[09:55] <ubotu> Cugel: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:55] <ubuntu> ok
[09:55] <ubuntu> thanks Daisuke_Ido
[09:55] <Cugel> gdiebel: thanks.
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[09:55] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks gdiebel
[09:56] <colini> dettoaltrimenti: i'm no sed expert.  this is a good intro to sed: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sed1.html
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> nice thing is the repos are just about back up to speed
[09:56] <wolferine> who is good with updating to Feisty?
[09:57] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: if by "updating" you mean "trying the upgrader, waiting 5 hours, getting mad, cancelling, and installing from scratch from cd", i'm your man
[09:57] <hitmanWilly> lol
[09:57] <Daisuke_Ido> so yeah, probably not me
[09:57] <chewietoy> heh
[09:57] <dettoaltrimenti> thank you very much, one more question: if I have a text file full of links to .html files, is there any way to wget download all of those html files into a certain directory?
[09:58] <wolferine> Daisuke_Ido, how do I JUST do a CD install
[09:58] <Daisuke_Ido> eh?
[09:58] <wolferine> s/install/update
[09:58] <mkirk> dettoaltrimenti: wget can recurse
[09:58] <wolferine> as i get it connecting to the net to install packages
[09:58] <mkirk> dettoaltrimenti: for mirroring :D use it carefully
[09:58] <hitmanWilly> dettoaltrimenti, maybe cat <textfile> > wget
[09:58] <Daisuke_Ido> torrent the alternate cd image and you can use it as a repo to upgrade from without worrying about downloading packages
[09:59] <wolferine> Daisuke_Ido, I tried it twice now, just keeps accessing them online
[09:59] <Daisuke_Ido> alternate cd?
[09:59] <wolferine> change my sources.list then?
[09:59] <colini> is there a "live cd" for kubuntu 7.04?  i'd like to test things out before installation
[09:59] <Daisuke_Ido> colini: there certainly is
[09:59] <wolferine> Daisuke_Ido, the exact same setup as you, alter. CD
[10:00] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: i installed from scratch from the live cd
[10:00] <colini> daisuke_ido, thanks.  is there a torrent?
[10:00] <wolferine> new install, no update?
[10:00] <ian_> hi
[10:00] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: right
[10:00] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido:  i am in the adapt manager and i cant find the deb line that i need to edit and it doesnt tell me how to get there
[10:01] <wolferine> k, thats not waht I want to do
[10:01] <ian_> has another upgraded to fesity with a acer laptop ?
[10:01] <aro> I've installed fglrx drivers properly with my ATI Radeon 9800 and fglrxinfo shows proper drivers, vendors, and "direct rendering: yes". I've installed XGL and properly loaded my KDE desktop under it, but everything performs unbelievably badly. All windows and menus take 30+ seconds to open and all graphics are sluggish beyond belief.
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: feisty or edgy?
[10:01] <aro> Anyone know what I can do?
[10:01] <wolferine> aro use #ubuntu-effects to ask that
[10:01] <nutshell42> wow, the 7.04 network config is still as crappy as I remembered it
[10:01] <ubuntu> feisty fawn
[10:01] <aro> Thanks.
[10:01] <ubuntu> beta
[10:01] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[10:01] <wolferine> ubuntu google "ubuntu guide"
[10:01] <ubuntu> kubuntu feisty fawn
[10:01] <wolferine> it will have all you need
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> why aren't you using the final, it's released :D
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> but anyway
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> adept > manage repositories
[10:02] <hendaus> helpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up
[10:02] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido:  this is the final
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, you mentioned beta
[10:02] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido:  can you help me please
[10:02] <ubuntu> i cant find the deb line which i need to edit
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: knetworkmanager is a far cry better than the old one
[10:02] <ubuntu> this is so confusing these tutorials
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: are you in the manage repositories dialog in adept?
[10:02] <ubuntu> are flawed
[10:03] <ubuntu> adapt manager
[10:03] <Daisuke_Ido> right
[10:03] <Daisuke_Ido> the reason it's off is because adept changed versions for feisty and things are in new places
[10:03] <Daisuke_Ido> you have a few tabs, Kubuntu Software, Third-Party Software, etc, etc, right?
[10:04] <ubuntu> yes
[10:04] <hendaus> helpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up , can anyone help
[10:04] <ubuntu> i checked all boxes
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> on that first tab, check em all
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> then close
[10:04] <ubuntu> next to universe and multiverse
[10:04] <ubuntu> ok
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> then fetch updates :)
[10:04] <nutshell42> Daisuke_Ido: is knetworkmanager that thing in the system config dialog? if that's the case I don't care if it's better than the old one. The old one didn't work, the new one doesn't; not much difference imho
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: oh, oh god no
[10:04] <Daisuke_Ido> no no no
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> the system config network manager is craptacular
[10:05] <nutshell42> the only way to get a working network config if you don't use dhcp, is to purge interfaces yourself
[10:05] <ubuntu> fetch updates is greyed out Daisuke_Ido
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> close and restart adept manager
[10:05] <ubuntu> nvm got it
[10:05] <Daisuke_Ido> k :)
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: knetworkmanager is actually a *good* network tool
[10:06] <wolferine> with proftpd, I just setup a nfs share, i can view my smb shares when connecting, but not the nfs shares ( not a permissions issue)
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: nfs is way over my head :D
[10:06] <nutshell42> Daisuke_Ido: if I start the config from the knetworkmanager context menu, it sure as hell *looks* exactly like the one from the system settings
[10:07] <ubuntu> its finally working thanks Daisuke_Ido
[10:07] <wolferine> Daisuke_Ido, its really straight forward
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[10:07] <wolferine> the issues are with how they interact with other applications I need help with :)
[10:08] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: use whatever you like, it's about choice
[10:08] <nutshell42> Daisuke_Ido: what *should* I like? All I want is a tool that works when I don't use dhcp
[10:08] <nutshell42> knetworkmanager doesn't
[10:08] <gdiebel> why would you not use dhcp?
[10:09] <thefirstdude> dhcp sucks
[10:09] <lparry_busy[||-] > ?
[10:09] <pulaski> hello all
[10:09] <nutshell42> gdiebel: why would I?
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> personally, i use a manual address anyway
[10:10] <thefirstdude> it's nice to be certain what your ip is
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> so i never mess with dhcp
[10:10] <nutshell42> me too
[10:10] <gdiebel> nutshell42: nearly all cases where static ip addresses are useful can be fulfilled with fixed leases from a dhcp server
[10:10] <pulaski> I just got feisty fawn 7.04 going and now I'm trying to set up a java IDE with the JRE using my firefox browser.
[10:11] <nutshell42> gdiebel: nearly all features of an irc client can be emulated by using netcat and the correct msgs
[10:11] <pulaski> I used adept to grab sun-java5-jdk & the sun-java5-jre
[10:11] <nutshell42> so why do *you* use an irc client
[10:11] <ubuntu> whats the command to view my own ip in Konsole ifconfigure isnt working
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, ooh, i know this one!
[10:11] <pulaski> but firefox is not loading applets cat all
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: ifconfig
[10:11] <pulaski> at all
[10:11] <ubuntu> !ip
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> no ure
[10:12] <thefirstdude> nutshell, brilliant, why didn't I think of that instead of firefox
[10:12] <pulaski> konqueror is not much better
[10:12] <nutshell42> thefirstdude: =P
[10:12] <gdiebel> nutshell42: that analogy is not very good. one uses an irc client for convenience. likewise dhcp is more convenient than static
[10:13] <orient2000> maybe look at firefox setup
[10:13] <hendaus> helpers when i open democarcy tv player --> An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up , can anyone help
[10:13] <nutshell42> not if you have to mess around with an dhcp server to emulate a static setup
[10:13] <pulaski> has anyone any experience with adept loading both the java5 jdk and jre
[10:13] <gdiebel> nutshell42: my point is what is your compelling reason to use a static ip on the box?
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> pulaski, i think there's a seperate pkg for the firefox plugin
[10:14] <nutshell42> winxp's network handling with dhcp is sh*t
[10:14] <pulaski> good that's helpful
[10:14] <acetoxy> My mouse pointer doesn't move fast enough, and the mouse settings doesn't change anything. Any ideas?
[10:14] <hendaus> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:14] <nutshell42> windows and networks get along much better with static ips
[10:14] <pulaski> I'll look for it, thanks hitmanWilly
[10:14] <gdiebel> nutshell42: yes that may be but networkmanager works really well
[10:14] <hitmanWilly> np
[10:14] <Daisuke_Ido> gdiebel: here's one, a router that's insanely stupid and only does port forwarding to single ips instead of triggering, and trying to have sshd running so i can actually manage things remotely
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> plus i shut down here every night with no guarantee i'll get the same ip and without the same ip, the router's settings are useless
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> static ip has the advantage
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> easiest way to take care of all of that
[10:15] <gdiebel> Daisuke_Ido: that insanely stupid router probably also allows fixed lease on its stupid dhcp server. you guys are just being argumentative
[10:15] <vbgunz> I've successfully upgraded to Feisty :)
[10:16] <nutshell42> gdiebel: which was the point of my fscking analogy
[10:16] <nutshell42> why should I mess around with a dhcp server
[10:16] <Daisuke_Ido> gdiebel: i can't stand dhcp, i've had too many problems, and it's nothing that a static ip (which is a lot simpler to set up) can't solve
[10:16] <aro> Anyone have Java plugin working with Konqueror from packages?
[10:16] <nutshell42> just to emulate a static ip
[10:16] <aro> Firefox is working fine but not Konqueror
[10:16] <ubuntu> what is the default root password and login in kubuntu?
[10:16] <ubuntu> while using the live cd
[10:16] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: there isn't one, you use sudo
[10:17] <ubuntu> none and the user name?
[10:17] <ubuntu> kubuntu?
[10:17] <Daisuke_Ido> if you need to run a command as root, it's 'sudo command'
[10:17] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no root account period
[10:17] <Cugel> What do you want to do, ubuntu?
[10:17] <nutshell42> aro: what's the problem, can't it find the java plugin, or does it crash?
[10:17] <ubuntu> putty into live cd kubuntu
[10:17] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, if you absolutely have to be actual root, sudo su
[10:17] <ubuntu> i need login and password
[10:17] <aro> It just does nothing, it says "Page loaded." but where the applet is, it's just a gray box.
[10:17] <Cugel> Yes, but why?
[10:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: easy, username ubuntu, no password
[10:17] <ubuntu> sudo su and what else?
[10:18] <mfyz> hi. my ubuntu broked after kernel update.. i have changed UUIDs to /dev/hda... and kernel not booting... i'm waiting 4-5 minutes and usplash change to some errors. error says /dev/hda2 not fount.. but grub, fstab,, all my root filesystem in /dev/hda2/// what must i do
[10:18] <aro> Guessing it can't find the plugin.
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not root, but it's in sudoers
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, oh nm, ssh into live cd, gotcha
[10:18] <ubuntu> yeah
[10:18] <ubuntu> ubuntu isnt working
[10:18] <ubuntu> without a pass
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the username
[10:19] <ubuntu> its not working
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> try ubuntu as a pass, but there isn't one
[10:19] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, no pw by default
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> is sshd installed?
[10:19] <ubuntu> ok
[10:19] <ubuntu> yeah its running
[10:19] <Cugel> Good.
[10:19] <Cugel> Is it me or do fonts look better with Feisty? Is it the newer X?
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i personally think they look better
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's all opinion
[10:20] <ubuntu> its rejecting all suggestion you just gave me
[10:20] <ubuntu> :/
[10:20] <vbgunz> kmail is the slowest email app I've ever tried and yet I want to use it quite badly... just performance wise it is far tooo slow :(
[10:20] <nutshell42> aro: have you set the correct path in the java config of konqueror?
[10:20] <ubuntu> how do i make a pass
[10:20] <ubuntu> this isnt working
[10:21] <Cugel> vb: use Thunderbird. Yes, really.
[10:21] <nutshell42> settings->configure konqueror->java->"path to java executable"
[10:21] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, you can sudo passwd to set up a root acct w/ passwd
[10:21] <Cugel> ubuntu: there's info on ubuntuguide.org
[10:21] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, but if its a live cd you'll have to do it every single time you boot
[10:21] <vbgunz> Cugel: really, yes, I use Thunderbird :)
[10:21] <ubuntu> no its in vmware
[10:22] <ubuntu> i can make snapshots
[10:22] <Cugel> So why the need for kmail?
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, ok, well, thats how you do it
[10:22] <vbgunz> Cugel: it's got some features I like out of the box, the slow performance aint one of them though
[10:22] <ubuntu__> hi all
[10:22] <ubuntu> and the account name is ubuntu
[10:23] <ubuntu__> i have install truecrypt
[10:23] <ubuntu> how can i check the account name hitmanWilly?
[10:23] <ubuntu__> how can i start it. i am a newbee
[10:23] <Sheazsche> hey, how come kubuntu doesnt have compiz built in but ubuntu does? wtf
[10:23] <Sheazsche> does kubuntu not automatically install codecs too?
[10:23] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, no that'll set up a root acct with the pass you type in
[10:24] <nutshell42> ubuntu__: try alt+f2
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, to change the user passwd it'd be sudo passwd ubuntu
[10:24] <nutshell42> write truecrypt
[10:24] <nutshell42> press enter
[10:24] <ubuntu__> where
[10:24] <nutshell42> ?
[10:24] <ubuntu> ubuntu i just did that
[10:24] <ubuntu> hitmanWilly: *
[10:24] <ubuntu> its still not working
[10:25] <tresko22> Sheazsche: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[10:25] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, ok, you should be able to ssh in now with username:ubuntu password:<new password>
[10:25] <schmidtn> Beryl jeg har cube men den er helt blank ??
[10:25] <bnorman> hi, what is the procedure for installing adobe flash 9 ?
[10:25] <wolferine> how can I view the last x lines of a file in nano?
[10:25] <Cugel> tail file.
[10:25] <hitmanWilly> !de | schmidtn
[10:25] <ubotu> schmidtn: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:26] <tresko22> bnorman: ./install-fla* in folder after unpack
[10:26] <Frost^-> Hello. In konqueror I have that "Start Plugin" button whenever there is a flash animation. Can anyone tell me where can I configure it?
[10:26] <BadRabbit320> how do i set IRc to auto identify me when i start IRC?
[10:26] <Eskim0> how does one edit the /etc/fstab
[10:26] <nutshell42> Frost^-: in the konqueror config->plugins
[10:27] <tresko22> BadRabbit320: which client?
[10:27] <ubuntu> hitmanWilly: thanks that did the trick
[10:27] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, ok, cool
[10:27] <Frost^-> nutshell42: What's it called?
[10:27] <tresko22> Eskim0: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:27] <BadRabbit320> konversation
[10:27] <nutshell42> Frost^-: there's a checkbox "load plugins on demand" or something like that
[10:27] <Eskim0> tresko22 thank you I will tryit
[10:28] <tresko22> Eskim0: alt:  sudo kate /etc/fstab
[10:28] <Frost^-> nutshell42: Oh, so it's a konqueror thing? Not something kubuntu-ish?
[10:28] <nutshell42> Frost^-: well, I just looked in the dialog here, and it's off by default
[10:28] <Frost^-> Ok nutshell42. Thanks.
[10:28] <tresko22> Eskim0: alt3: in shell, sudo konqueror, and you can edit all files :)
[10:28] <nutshell42> so, if you've reused your ~, it's probably an old setting
[10:29] <nutshell42> but the setting itself is a new konqi feature
[10:29] <Sheazsche> how come i dont need http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php when using UBUNTU feisty? wtf
[10:29] <nutshell42> =)
[10:29] <Sheazsche> why only kubuntu?
[10:30] <Daisuke_Ido> wonder if the dev of nicotine+ plans on releasing a fesity package
[10:30] <arthur_kalm> hi everyone, I just installed 7.04 and I'm trying to use the nVidia drivers. However, after install nvidia-glx-new and setting xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver, I get the following error: (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[10:30] <arthur_kalm> I have an nVidia 8800 GTS
[10:31] <Eskim0> Tresko22 that is what I was going to ask next you beet me to it thax
[10:31] <arthur_kalm> I searched on Google and the ubuntuforums but I couldn't find any solutions, just mentions of the problem...
[10:31] <kalorin> I have an ati x700 that works, want to trade? :)
[10:31] <kalorin> sorry no idea wiht nvidia yet, want to get one though
[10:32] <hitmanWilly> arthur_kalm, it might just be a bug
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: look in the xorg.conf's modules section to see if there's a mention of that module in there
[10:32] <arthur_kalm> kalorin: hehe very fun ;)
[10:32] <nutshell42> arthur_kalm: have you tried removing the nvidia packages
[10:32] <nutshell42> and installing it with the official installer from the nvidia site?
[10:32] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: I've looked, that module isn't even being loaded o_O
[10:32] <hitmanWilly> that's a major pita on ubuntu
[10:32] <arthur_kalm> hitmanWilly: perhaps...
[10:32] <kalorin> i've got a quadra at work on 6.10 and it has been kind of difficult, my buddy just got it workin on his workstaiton today
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: it's provided as a package for a reason (to make kernel module updates easier)
[10:33] <arthur_kalm> nutshelll42: not yet, I'm not exactly sure how you remove them afterwards...
[10:33] <nutshell42> Daisuke_Ido: that's fine as long as they work
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a headache using the nvidia installer
[10:33] <arthur_kalm> nutshell42: back in Edgy (couple of hours ago) I was using the ones fromt he website
[10:33] <nutshell42> arthur_kalm: apt-get remove
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: apt-get remove won't remove the ones installed from nvidia's site
[10:33] <arthur_kalm> nutshell42: oh wait, that's right, it installes it as a package :)
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[10:33] <nutshell42> Daisuke_Ido: the installer works fine
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i see :)
[10:34] <hitmanWilly> arthur_kalm, did you upgrade or fresh install
[10:34] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: no I think it does :P
[10:34] <arthur_kalm> hitmanWilly: fresh
[10:34] <Daisuke_Ido> nutshell42: oh, i know it works, and works great
[10:34] <arthur_kalm> nutshell42: I forgot :P I'll give it a try in a sec
[10:34] <bolbit> Hi all,
[10:34] <bolbit> i want to test compiz under KDE.
[10:34] <bolbit> but how do i start compiz
[10:34] <hitmanWilly> hmm, the installer ones conflict with the official pkgs, but i guess that's not the prob then...
[10:34] <nutshell42> =)
[10:35] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: it's funny, for some reason the default Ubuntu suggested package is nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new, while the kernel module requires nvidia-glx-new :P
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and PROBABLY won't be as big a deal now that the fesity kernel's stabilized.  using the installer from nvidia's site while running the beta actually made me scream with frustration when i had to recompile the kernel module every other day
[10:35] <hitmanWilly> lol
[10:35] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: hehe that's why I wait for the official release ;)
[10:35] <kalorin> man, video drivers in general under *ubuntu is a pain
[10:35] <kalorin> from what I've found with my ATI
[10:35] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: but thanx to people liek you who test it :P
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: i'm using the nvidia-glx in feisty (which is 96something), and works great
[10:36] <kalorin> granted ATI doesn't have a great reputation
[10:36] <hitmanWilly> well, ati under nix is a pita, period
[10:36] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: 8800 GTS requires the latest drivers
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> kalorin: ati hates their customers, nvidia's much better
[10:36] <kalorin> heh
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: true
[10:36] <kalorin> someday I'll get an nvidia care
[10:36] <kalorin> card
[10:36] <kalorin> but even my quadra at work is a PITA to get working
[10:36] <arthur_kalm> kalorin: really? my laptop with an x1400 works great
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia's still not perfect though.  if they open source their drivers, i'm all over that
[10:36] <Rogue> guys thanks for the help I may see you again
[10:36] <Dumahen> how can i reach the shared files on network by consol
[10:37] <arthur_kalm> ok i'll give it a try guys
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Rogue: i have no clue who you are, but have fun!
[10:37] <kalorin> keep getting this deal where it boots up, runs fine, then if you restart the xserver or log out to a command line, it errors trying to go back in because of a kernel module mismatch
[10:37] <kalorin> it's bizarre
[10:37] <stefan__> I do not have sound on my laptop
[10:37] <stefan__> any ideas?
[10:37] <arthur_kalm> brb
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> check the volume?
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> ...sorry
[10:37] <stefan__> 100%
[10:37] <Daisuke_Ido> start from simple problems first :)
[10:37] <kalorin> arthur, I'm running dual head on one card
[10:37] <Dumahen> ok how can i reach the network on konsol ?
[10:37] <stefan__> ok
[10:38] <kalorin> Dumahen: that question does not compute, konsol is not a network application
[10:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i actually ahve no idea, the laptop i own is so old it actually has a manual volume knob
[10:38] <kalorin> Dumahen: do you mean via some service like ftp or http?
[10:38] <stefan__> ok
[10:39] <stefan__> kalorin: volume
[10:39] <Dumahen> no there r some files on my laptop and i need them on konsol but i cant reach them on konsol :(
[10:39] <stefan__> kalorin: sound
[10:39] <stefan__> !sound
[10:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:39] <stefan__> ok
[10:39] <stefan__> great!
[10:39] <stefan__> ty ubotu
[10:39] <stefan__> :)
[10:39] <Dumahen> kalorin: ??
[10:40] <kalorin> Dumahen: are you running konsole on the laptop?
[10:40] <Dumahen> my desktop is linux and laptop is winxp
[10:41] <acetoxy> Is it just me, or is SSH extremley slow in feisty?
[10:41] <kalorin> Dumahen: ok, so you need to make a samba connection either from the laptop to the desktop or from the desktop to the laptop
[10:41] <kalorin> are they shared on the laptop?
[10:41] <Dumahen> !samba
[10:41] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:41] <Dumahen> thnx kalorin
[10:41] <kalorin> if so you should be able to use the smbclient, but if your'e running kubutnu you can likely just use the littel default dropdown for remote places
[10:41] <Iwonder|too> openssh windows is cool to allow scp trnsfers from windows to linux
[10:42] <kalorin> and browse to it
[10:42] <thefirstdude> so I haev a program.deb file, how to install?
[10:42] <kalorin> Iwonder|too: another possibility
[10:42] <kalorin> dpkg
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> thefirstdude, sudo dpkg -i <deb file name>
[10:43] <acetoxy> It takes about 5 seconds to login
[10:43] <arthur_kalm> :(
[10:43] <Sheazsche> why is google earth automatically in Ubuntu's repos, but not kubuntu's? what is going on?
[10:43] <vbgunz> I no longer /dev/hda1 ... how do I find it?
[10:44] <vbgunz> I mean what ever the new name is?
[10:44] <wolferine> vb cd /dev/hda1
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, its under sda now
[10:44] <wolferine> oh, cd /media/hda1 ?
[10:44] <vbgunz> sda?
[10:44] <wolferine> or sda
[10:44] <vbgunz> ok
[10:44] <arthur_kalm> OK so I'm trying the official nVidia drivers, and for some reason it's complaining that the kernel modules are not the same version as the X modules o-O
[10:44] <vbgunz> I'll check
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, the new kernel reads EVERYTHING as sd
[10:44] <arthur_kalm> but when I was using nvidia-glx-new (same version as the latest nVidia one), that wasn't the complaint
[10:44] <arthur_kalm> huh?
[10:45] <vbgunz> hmm, I do not have /dev/sd (tab) :(
[10:45] <Sheazsche> why is google earth automatically in Ubuntu's repos, but not kubuntu's? what is going on?
[10:45] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: that happens, you'll have to compile a new kernel module (the installer does it)
[10:45] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: it did..
[10:45] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: but it seems to have not registered it?
[10:46] <arthur_kalm> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7
[10:46] <arthur_kalm> that's what I have
[10:46] <arthur_kalm> if I try to remove it I get a bunch of broken dependencies...
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> arthur_kalm: you're installing via nvidia's installer?
[10:46] <ubuntu> hello i added a share folder in vmare where can i find it back in kubuntu?
[10:46] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> Sheazsche: why don't you just use the Ubuntu repos then?
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely weird
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> Daisuke_Ido: yeah :(
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> so I'm not sure if I should remove nvidia-kernel-common
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> it says
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> Remove the following packages:
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> linux-generic
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> linux-restricted-modules-generic
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa, no
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> :P
[10:47] <arthur_kalm> yeah
[10:48] <lupul> hi there. can i do anything to show in gaim which music i'm listening to?
[10:48] <lupul> wothout typing it of course :D
[10:48] <lupul> *without
[10:48] <raz> Anyone know why a aptitude dist-upgrade would tell me that 66 packages I have are unused and need to be removed?
[10:48] <arthur_kalm> lupul: not sure about gaim but I know Kopete has such a plugin
[10:49] <raz> er, 55. Same principle, though
[10:49] <lupul> yes i know
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> raz: because they're not used anymore
[10:49] <fdoving> raz: because they were installed as dependecies to other packages.
[10:49] <raz> Daisuke_Ido:  they are
[10:49] <lupul> but kopete dies suddently after starting
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> either replaced, or renamed
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> fdoving's note too
[10:49] <raz> well, how can I find out what they're missing?
[10:49] <lupul> and it doesn't show pictures of my buddies
[10:49] <arthur_kalm> lupul: oh...
[10:49] <raz> I think something may have been damaged
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> raz: apt is pretty good about that
[10:50] <raz> well, I'm not familiar with all the commands yet
[10:50] <arthur_kalm> lupul: which protocol?
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> if it says it's safe to remove them, chances are it's safe to remove them
[10:50] <lupul> yahoo
[10:50] <raz> I do not want to remove them
[10:50] <raz> because I use them
[10:50] <raz> Like I said, something is damaged
[10:50] <arthur_kalm> lupul: oh... hmm not sure :( sorry
[10:50] <fdoving> raz: then you can tag them as not autoinstalled.
[10:50] <raz> how can I repair whatever dependencies they need?
[10:50] <lupul> thanks anyway
[10:50] <kalorin> kopete >>>
[10:50] <fdoving> raz: check out 'apt-mark'
[10:50] <lupul> sudo apt-get install -f
[10:51] <arthur_kalm> bah, so does anyone know how I can get around this difference in versions?
[10:51] <fdoving> raz: 'sudo apt-mark unmarkauto <list of packages you want to keep>'
[10:51] <raz> getting apt errors
[10:51] <Sheazsche> for some reason i always have to open adept manager twice because it does not ask me for a password the first time... wtf?
[10:51] <raz> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[10:51] <arthur_kalm> stupid kernel modules never complained when I used nvidia-glx-nwe
[10:51] <arthur_kalm> *new
[10:51] <raz> I think that an install got killed halfway through or something and damaged the script placeholders and a package
[10:52] <kalorin> raz, got a backup
[10:52] <kalorin> ?
[10:52] <raz> er, of my entire drive?
[10:52] <raz> no
[10:52] <kalorin> seems like it should do a backup every time before it does any installs
[10:52] <kalorin> and then it can be rolled back if the operation doesn't successfully complete
[10:52] <pnutbttr> hello, i cant get adept to start, it says its beeing used already, i dont see anything in the process
[10:53] <intelikey> !adaptcrash | pnutbttr
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <arthur_kalm> pnutbttr: do you have aptitude running in a termal?
[10:53] <intelikey> !adaptcrashfix | pnutbttr
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adaptcrashfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <intelikey> well poo  it's there some where
[10:53] <intelikey> !adapt-crash | pnutbttr
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adapt-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <intelikey> nm  i give up
[10:54] <gdiebel> !adept-crash | pnutbttr
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <pnutbttr> haha, whats wrong with ubotu
[10:54] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[10:54] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:54] <kalorin> how about !apt-crash
[10:54] <Sheazsche> for some reason i always have to open adept manager twice because it does not ask me for a password the first time... wtf?
[10:54] <LjL> nothing's wrong with ubotu
[10:54] <kalorin> !apt-crash
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <kalorin> !apt-get crash
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <kalorin> hrms..
[10:54] <dog> Hi !
[10:54] <kalorin> sup dog!
[10:55] <kalorin> (always wanted to say that)
[10:55] <Black_Cat> dog, miaow.
[10:55] <dog> How are you   ??
[10:57] <sstchur> I just got a new monitor, but I"m having trouble figuring out how to tell KDE to up the resolution.  I'm in monitor and display settings, but it doens't list the resolution I want
[10:57] <Sheazsche> hey for some reason in debian based distros i only get 800 fps with intel 915gm and the i810 driver, but with mandriva i get 1300fps in glxgears. ANy idea why?
[10:58] <stefan__> I get a Not enabled in config for the sound driver in SOund Kinfo center
[10:58] <stefan__> where do I find config?
[10:58] <stefan__> to enable the driver?
[10:59] <darkstaown> hey :o
[10:59] <intelikey> !sound | stefan__
[10:59] <ubotu> stefan__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:59] <calamari> hi
[10:59] <intelikey> hey hey i spelled one right.
[10:59] <darkstaown> Anyone has an idea of an app that could run some win32 softwares like ventrilo^
[11:00] <Cugel> dark: wine
[11:00] <darkstaown> I heard it wasnt free
[11:00] <darkstaown> It is^
[11:00] <darkstaown> Goddamn questionmark isnt working :)
[11:00] <calamari> I cannot print to my printer from Firefox, only to PostScript/default.  Is anyone able to print from FireFox?  What did you do to get it working?
[11:00] <stefan__> the damn page is not loading
[11:00] <stefan__> oh well
[11:00] <stefan__> let me look
[11:00] <stefan__> thanks intelikey!
[11:01] <compilerwriter> Is it just me or am I really experiencing a massive kde slowdown since the upgrade?
[11:01] <pnutbttr> i am using this solution "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" and now all the downloads adept made today for the upgrade are gone, interesting....
[11:02] <intelikey> compilerwriter nah it's gendii's imagenation
[11:02] <compilerwriter> gendii's imagination?
[11:03] <Toyd> Hello
[11:03] <intelikey> :)
[11:03] <Toyd> may i ask a question
[11:03] <Toyd> how do i run KsysGuard and Konversation from Konsole?
[11:03] <Toyd> what are the proper commands
[11:03] <Toyd> i need it for putty
[11:03] <Sheazsche> just type ksysguard
[11:03] <Sheazsche> it launches
[11:03] <JohnFlux> Toyd: ksysguard   and konversation
[11:04] <Toyd> i did didnt work
[11:04] <Sheazsche> oh
[11:04] <Toyd> amarokapp works for amarok
[11:04] <sstchur> ANyone know why I can't get into administrator mode anymore?  In KDE System Systems, I click the Administrator mode button, and the window lights up with a red border, but it doesn't prompt me for a password anymore
[11:04] <JohnFlux> Toyd: what didn't work :-)
[11:04] <Toyd> should i append app to it?
[11:04] <calamari> got it!  I guess it wasn't selected as the default printer
[11:04] <Toyd> i tried your suggestions already
[11:04] <Toyd> and it failed
[11:04] <calamari> there was no default at all.. which is kinda weird
[11:04] <JohnFlux> Toyd: how did it fail
[11:04] <intelikey> Toyd what error message ?
[11:04] <JohnFlux> Toyd: what's the error
[11:04] <Toyd> i got a bash
[11:05] <intelikey> Toyd what error message ?
[11:05] <compilerwriter> !ask Toyd
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask toyd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Toyd> -bash: KSysGuard: command not found
[11:05] <compilerwriter> !ask | Toyd
[11:05] <ubotu> Toyd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:05] <JohnFlux> Toyd: I said type  ksysguard
[11:05] <Toyd> small letters
[11:05] <JohnFlux> Toyd: not KSysGuard
[11:06] <kalorin> toyd, you likely have to tell ssh to forward X packets and run an xserver on your end and allow the client apps to display to the local box
[11:06] <Toyd> why small letters
[11:06] <CVirus> what does sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock do ?
[11:06] <Toyd> it shouldnt matter
[11:06] <Toyd> ok sorry
[11:06] <JohnFlux> Toyd: on unix it matters
[11:06] <JohnFlux> Toyd: linux = unix
[11:06] <kikkoman> Hello, I've been trying to compile the UnrealIRCd, and when I do that, it says the gcc compiler cannot create executables. How am I to fix this?
[11:06] <intelikey> Toyd shouldn't matter ?   hah  windows users are all alike.
[11:06] <gdiebel> Sheazsche: are resolution/bit depth the same?
[11:06] <Sheazsche> yes
[11:06] <fdoving> CVirus: checks what's using /var/lib/dpkg/lock , show you what it its, then ask you to kill it or not.
[11:06] <kalorin> intelikey: heh
[11:07] <louieb39c> Hello does anyone know what is on the Kubuntu DVD vs the CD?
[11:07] <Toyd> intelikey,  on the far side of my cube 2x 90 degrees spins left or right kubuntu is running
[11:07] <CVirus> fdoving: I rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock to remove the lock ... is it safe ?
[11:07] <Russel> hiho
[11:07] <Toyd> so i am not just a windows user
[11:07] <fdoving> louieb39c: more programs. more or less.
[11:07] <kikkoman> The Kubuntu DVD has the Live version and the text version, I believe
[11:07] <kikkoman> But not certain >.>;
[11:07] <Toyd> kikkoman,  i know you
[11:07] <louieb39c> Ah thanks. I couldn't find that on the main site...
[11:07] <kalorin> JohnFlux: that's not rude, he's right, they don't have options or case sensitivity there, and the desktops all look the same
[11:07] <intelikey> Toyd big wooopeeee
[11:07] <Toyd> i am Fuji-san
[11:07] <Russel> i have a workstation with feisty and if i click on shutdown and suspend only the screen is locked, what could be wrong?
[11:07] <Toyd> ;p
[11:07] <kikkoman> :O
[11:07] <ober0ne> anybody really good with the terminal?
[11:07] <kalorin> JohnFlux: they are all alike, like clones
[11:07] <fdoving> CVirus: you'll get some confused prorgrams. so i don't recommend it.
[11:07] <Toyd> i forgot how i know you
[11:08] <Toyd> kikkoman,
[11:08] <Toyd> are you in aar also on rizon?
[11:08] <sound_fx> I just upgraded to feisty, and my screen refresh does not appear to be correct, what should I do?
[11:08] <kikkoman> Not at the moment
[11:08] <Toyd> macspeak?
[11:08] <compilerwriter> toyd in *nix the entire system is case sensitive.  You can have a file named fubar, Fubar, fubaR, fUbar, fuBar, and so on and they are all seperate files.
[11:08] <louieb39c> ask the question oberOne - don't ask to ask a question
[11:08] <JohnFlux> Toyd: they make soysauce
[11:08] <Toyd> oh ok
[11:08] <Toyd> lol
[11:08] <ober0ne> lol
[11:08] <kikkoman> >.>; How do I set permissions for the gcc compiler
[11:08] <kikkoman> It says it can't create executables
[11:08] <Toyd> compilerwriter,  thats to confusing for me i am just a winderz user heh ;p
[11:09] <fdoving> kikkoman: you need to install the 'build-essential' package.
[11:09] <Toyd> i use GNU apps on windows though
[11:09] <ober0ne> I'm stuck... I tried to graphically add a repository, but it won't accept it, says there's an error, and it won't let me open adept or edit sources.list manually
[11:09] <compilerwriter> JohnFlux now don't be so hare on intelikey.  He hasn't had his ration for the day.
[11:09] <intelikey> Toyd bottom line, in *nix every key is unique.  T != t != [left-alt] T != [right-alt] T   and so forth.
[11:09] <kikkoman> fdoving: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:09] <rich__> Hello, trying to upgrade Edgy->Feisty, followed instructions ("click next to close Adept package manager and start the kubuntu dist. upgrade tool") but nothing happens when I clicked Next. any help?
[11:09] <Toyd> intelikey,  gotcha thanks again
[11:09] <louieb39c> OberOne - error?
[11:09] <fdoving> kikkoman: yes, or find build-essential in adept.
[11:09] <ober0ne> erm... hold on I'll do it again so I can tell you exactly
[11:10] <kikkoman> fdoving: Ok, thanks
[11:10] <intelikey> for the sake of "sane typing" both shift keys are treeted the same.
[11:10] <kalorin> intelikey: heh
[11:10] <JohnFlux> Toyd: have you tried running  ksysguard  yet?
[11:10] <JohnFlux> kikkoman: what's the error specifically?
[11:10] <JohnFlux> kikkoman: yes
[11:10] <JohnFlux> intelikey:  and  t  
[11:10] <JohnFlux> intelikey:  :-)
[11:10] <Toyd> yes it works thanks JohnFlux
[11:10] <kikkoman> error: gcc: c compiler cannot create executables
[11:10] <compilerwriter> intelikey unless you happened to have remapped them for some reason.
[11:10] <xst> After upgrading to feisty the sound on my audiophile 2496 sound card is in slow motion. What to do?
[11:10] <Toyd> i am running it via putty and xming
[11:11] <intelikey> kalorin but they do send different code when pressed...
[11:11] <kikkoman> Something to that extent >.>;
[11:11] <intelikey> compilerwriter yes
[11:11] <ober0ne> in the terminal, it says: E: type 'ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu' is not known on line 1 in sources list
[11:11] <kalorin> xst, relax and slow down
[11:11] <JohnFlux> kikkoman: did you install build-essential?
[11:11] <kalorin> xst it's trying to tell you something :)
[11:11] <kikkoman> JohnFlux: Not yet, but I'm doing that as we speak
[11:11] <Toyd> kikkoman,  did you built a hackintosh?
[11:11] <xst> Damn, I knew it :-)
[11:11] <Toyd> :-0
[11:11] <Kikkoman> what
[11:11] <xst> But besides that - any ideas?
[11:11] <Toyd> lol nvm
[11:11] <Kikkoman> o_O
[11:11] <Toyd> jk
[11:11] <Toyd> ;p
[11:11] <Toyd> (>".)>
[11:11] <kalorin> xst, hrms...
[11:11] <louieb39c> give me one sec uber
[11:12] <ober0ne> sure
[11:12] <JohnFlux> xst: tried google?
[11:12] <kalorin> xst, sound is one of those things that I don't play iwth much, it just works for me
[11:12] <kalorin> never have to fix that which doesn't break
[11:12] <kalorin> sounds like an interupt issue maybe?
[11:12] <compilerwriter> Good for  you toyd I always login to my 'healess' *nix box via xming and putty.
[11:12] <kalorin> is your whole system slower?
[11:12] <kalorin> or just sound
[11:12] <ober0ne> I know I can edit the sources list in terminal, but using Kate, I need root permission
[11:12] <louieb39c> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:12] <ober0ne> but I don't know how to edit it in termnial
[11:13] <ober0ne> well, the problem now is how to remove that
[11:13] <louieb39c> that should help
[11:13] <kalorin> ober0ne: sudo kate <filename?
[11:13] <ober0ne> yeh? that works?
[11:13] <compilerwriter> Now could someone please tell me why the devil my screen just froze and my background picture just dissappeared?
[11:13] <kalorin> if X is running it will
[11:13] <JohnFlux> ober0ne: press alt-f2   then type  kdesu  kate
[11:13] <ober0ne> x... I'm a noob
[11:13] <compilerwriter> Toyd have you gotten xming to cooperate with ssh?
[11:13] <intelikey> xst did you have to use special drivers for the sound card ?
[11:13] <compilerwriter> Have you enabled ssh on your computers x-server.
[11:13] <kalorin> ok laters folks
[11:14] <louieb39c> well noobs are welcome here as long as they are willing to learn
[11:14] <ober0ne> lol, always willing to learn
[11:14] <Toyd> dont know compilerwriter  i think so its working
[11:14] <ober0ne> I finally got fed up with windows after vista ate my system
[11:14] <xst> intelikey: ICE1712 I think it is
[11:14] <Toyd> i get amarok in an aero window
[11:14] <Toyd> on vista
[11:15] <Toyd> thats what i wanted lol
[11:15] <ober0ne> lol
[11:15] <xst> intelikey: But it worked perfectly in edgy
[11:15] <louieb39c> HAHA I am only 16 and I have made LOTS of money off of fed up Vista users..End of MS's reign?
[11:15] <Toyd> :p
[11:15] <ober0ne> I hated vista... someone once said that if you put sparkles on a turd, it's still just a piece of crap
[11:15] <Toyd> noway dude
[11:15] <Toyd> vista has bling bling
[11:15] <louieb39c> HAHA I like that
[11:15] <intelikey> xst was just wondering,  cause if you had to install a driver  you will probably have to rebuild it for the newer kernel
[11:15] <Toyd> directx 10 is the only reason why i am using vista even though its non-existing atm
[11:16] <Toyd> crysis will be great
[11:16] <louieb39c> Ubuntu Alfa tests are more stable than VIsta
[11:16] <ober0ne> ok, so I tried the kdesu, but it says it can't open it
[11:16] <louieb39c> did you try that kink?
[11:16] <ober0ne> now it wants to open it under samba
[11:16] <louieb39c> link*
[11:16] <gly> Does anyone know where I could find any of the feisty herd-releases?
[11:16] <wsjunior> how do i open that katapult configuration window?
[11:17] <romale> hi everybody!
[11:17] <Toyd> lol amarok is a cpu eater
[11:17] <Toyd> damn
[11:17] <louieb39c> Holy I didn't expect a newly released torrent to Kubuntu would be downloading at 5Kbps
[11:17] <romale> i'm having trouble upgrading edy to feisty
[11:18] <louieb39c> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:18] <romale> when i update using adept, a window invite me to upgrade
[11:18] <romale> i click on next, next then finish
[11:18] <ober0ne> *sigh* I love kubuntu, but it's being quite annoying
[11:18] <romale> then *NOTHING*
[11:19] <romale> adept should have be closed, and i think the upgrade should have start
[11:19] <louieb39c> Romale try sudo apt-get update
[11:19] <louieb39c> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:19] <wizar> schoenen guten abend
[11:20] <rich__> romale: same here, I'm trying clicking the Full Upgrade button, seems to be doing the right thing.
[11:20] <romale> what about the graphical dist-upgrade tool ?
[11:20] <PandyMx> can somebody tell me how should i open a zip file please?
[11:20] <ober0ne> ha! louie, I love you
[11:20] <romale> is there a bug or something?
[11:20] <louieb39c> eh the way I see it is, when all else fails..do it the old fashioned way
[11:20] <louieb39c> lol why?
[11:20] <compilerwriter> Toyd are the machines you are using on the same network?
[11:20] <louieb39c> Ober - all good?
[11:20] <intelikey> xst sound (alsa or oss) is kernel side code  not userland applications   arts (the default kde sound engine) is a userland app that simply facilitates gongruent sounds on the alsa device.    so you can test in a console (not an X terminal, real tty) and see if alsa is at fault, if so kernel module; and or module args.    if sound works from the console then it's arts; work on kde's sound system setting
[11:21] <ober0ne> well, I have a problem with attention to detail... if only I had read just a little further, I would have found the solution
[11:21] <ober0ne> :p
[11:21] <Black_Cat> PandyMx, sudo apt-get install unzip
[11:21] <Toyd> compilerwriter, no
[11:21] <wolferine> anyone experienced with proftpd, I am trying to share a folder within my FTP root folder
[11:21] <Toyd> compilerwriter,  i am doing it all on the same pc
[11:21] <Toyd> lmao
[11:21] <Toyd> ;/
[11:21] <romale> is running "update" and "upgrade" with apt enough to update to feisty?
[11:21] <Toyd> lubuntu is running in vmware
[11:21] <Toyd> kubuntu*
[11:21] <compilerwriter> I see.
[11:21] <ober0ne> ack... pc speaker keeps beeping
[11:21] <Toyd> lol
[11:22] <louieb39c> Romale I think you want dist-upgrade
[11:22] <bigdad1e> is there a curtain verson of kubuntu for laptops?
[11:22] <Toyd> compilerwriter,  with 2 pcs it would be better
[11:22] <thefirstdude> yoyu know what sucks, I can't get any packages...
[11:22] <intelikey> bigdad1e no
[11:22] <compilerwriter> Much better.
[11:22] <Toyd> i know
[11:22] <thefirstdude> doe anyone know of alternative repositories that I can use?
[11:22] <bigdad1e> ok just making sure thanks
[11:22] <compilerwriter> It would be much better toyd with two seperate pcs.
[11:22] <Toyd> yeah
[11:23] <compilerwriter> When you get that kind of setup don't buy a kvm switch.
[11:23] <Toyd> i was just testing to see if it'd work
[11:23] <Toyd> first
[11:23] <Toyd> lol
[11:23] <compilerwriter> You can use xming and XDMCP for that.
[11:23] <Toyd> ok
[11:23] <intelikey> ober0ne sounds like "upstart" trying to do something wrongly.
[11:23] <gly> If someone around here happens to have the amd64 iso of feisty herd-4 somewhere I'd be _very_ happy if I could get a copy.
[11:23] <romale> ok, i'm trying "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:23] <louieb39c> sudo
[11:24] <louieb39c> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:24] <intelikey> !root
[11:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:24] <kalorin`> REWT!
[11:24] <blueyed> gly: do you want to test regressions?
[11:24] <CVirus> !desktop effects
[11:24] <blueyed> (I don't have it, sorry)
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <CVirus> !beryl
[11:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:24] <gly> blueyed: The kernel in later versions won't boot on my laptop :(
[11:25] <xst> intelikey: When playing with aplay it says: <mp3-name> Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono    - this seems quite wrong
[11:25] <gly> and the images has disappeared from the ubuntu.com and mirrors
[11:25] <blueyed> gly: herd 4 is quite old, isn't it? How does it not boot? Have you filed a bug at launchpad.net?
[11:25] <ober0ne> louie, ever heard of automatix?
[11:25] <intelikey> xst never test sound with propritary formats  or even compressed free formats
[11:25] <louieb39c> oper - love it
[11:25] <ober0ne> yeah
[11:25] <louieb39c> fantastic app
[11:26] <wsjunior> Katapult isnt in systray by default, how can i configure it?
[11:26] <ober0ne> so what exactly does it do?
[11:26] <wsjunior> I would like to open its configuration window..
[11:26] <wolferine> anyone experienced with proftpd, I am trying to share a folder within my FTP root folder
[11:26] <intelikey> xst find an .au   or even a .wav is you must.
[11:26] <ober0ne> I know people that use linux everyday, and they tell me to use automatix, but won't tell me what it does
[11:26] <louieb39c> its a GUI based script that allows you to pick things like mp3 codecs and flash out of a list and it installs them for you
[11:26] <ober0ne> :o
[11:26] <ober0ne> LOVE THAT!
[11:26] <louieb39c> very simple
[11:26] <louieb39c> yea I think it should be for all distros
[11:27] <ober0ne> so basically it changes the you over from adept?
[11:27] <JohnFlux> louieb39c: it also breaks things :-)
[11:27] <intelikey> !automatix | ober0ne
[11:27] <ubotu> ober0ne: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:27] <JohnFlux> louieb39c: it should me mostly unneeded now
[11:27] <louieb39c> I have never experienced that
[11:27] <JohnFlux> s/me/be/
[11:27] <CVirus> !compiz
[11:27] <JohnFlux> !worksforme
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:27] <whytheam> Does anyone know how to mount a harddrive in 7.4
[11:27] <JohnFlux> louieb39c: ^^
[11:28] <CVirus> Isn't there a desktop effects manager in kubuntu as the one shipped with ubuntu ?
[11:28] <intelikey> whytheam why would mounting be different in 7.4 ?
[11:28] <sstchur> Help!  I got a new monitor, but I can't for the life of me, get KDE to bump the resolution up to what the monitor is capable of
[11:28] <ubuntu> wow
[11:28] <ober0ne> lol, well I just installed kubuntu today (again), and don't have anything really important on it yet
[11:28] <wolferine> whytheam, mount?
[11:28] <ubuntu> konversation in windows aero :p
[11:28] <ubuntu> kewl
[11:28] <ober0ne> so if it screws it up, I'll reinstall
[11:28] <blueyed> sstchur: maybe you need to adjust /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions there.
[11:29] <louieb39c> well oper I have been using it for some time with no issues
[11:29] <sstchur> blueyed: I tried that... I made things worse... now I"m ay 800x600
[11:29] <arthur_kalm> hey umm does anyone know how to remove the official nVidia driver. I downloaded it and installed it on my system but I have no idea how to remove it now... I want to try a work around with the ubuntu drivers but I think I should remove the nvidia ones first...
[11:29] <louieb39c> I really wish there was VIrtualbox for x64 :(
[11:29] <sstchur> blueyed: do you know what happened to xorgconfig?  I swear I used to run something like that where I could specify resolutions and what not
[11:29] <bobbicat> i'm looking for general advice for the new feisty release
[11:29] <ober0ne> but, if automatix works, (and I know this issue has been beaten to death) I can get my mp3 and xvid codecs, right?
[11:29] <wolferine> arthur_kalm, why do you want to remove it?
[11:29] <whytheam> I just updated today and the 80 gig I had is gone missing
[11:29] <dennister> hey all...having some trouble with copying large files...process keeps quitting unexpectedly, and I don't know what to troubleshoot?
[11:30] <JohnFlux> sstchur: you could try backing up the file, then do:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <louieb39c> yes ober
[11:30] <ober0ne> ^_^
[11:30] <JohnFlux> sstchur: backing up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <CVirus> Isn't there a desktop effects manager in kubuntu as the one shipped with ubuntu ?
[11:30] <ober0ne> life is very, very good right now
[11:30] <intelikey> sstchur ubuntu has never used xorgconfig
[11:30] <louieb39c> ober don't say that until things are installed!
[11:30] <JohnFlux> CVirus: you can use the same manager
[11:30] <ober0ne> now, if automatix DOESN'T work, what else can I try? I'm horrible with terminal
[11:30] <bobbicat> can i use the live cd to upgrade edgy 6.10 to feisty 7.04?
[11:30] <gly> blueyed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/107417
[11:30] <sstchur> intelikey: ok...i'm looking at the FixYourResolutionHowTo now
[11:30] <intelikey> sstchur it's always been dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:31] <arthur_kalm> wolferine: found how to uninstall it, --uninstall switch
[11:31] <louieb39c> that site I gave you - look at it - it helps a lot
[11:31] <ober0ne> yeh?
[11:31] <photon> CVirus: You have to download it from Adept Manager
[11:31] <arthur_kalm> and i want to uninstall it b/c I want to use the driver in the repo
[11:31] <ober0ne> I bookmarked it :p
[11:31] <wolferine> cool
[11:31] <CVirus> JohnFlux: photon: it depends on many packages related to gnome !
[11:31] <JohnFlux> CVirus: are you talking about beryl?
[11:32] <louieb39c> hopefully they will add some stuff to it since 7.04 is just out
[11:32] <bobbicat> i have a network don't want to update each pc over the net can i use live cd?
[11:32] <photon> Desktop Effects use Compiz
[11:32] <ober0ne> bloody helll... I'm using sudo apt-get update, and it's showing me updates I'm certain I already have
[11:32] <louieb39c> the other versions have a lot more material
[11:32] <ober0ne> is that common?
[11:32] <intelikey> let me take that back.   i came to ubuntu after warty wallowed  so i can speak for the first release, but form hoary on it has been
[11:32] <CVirus> JohnFlux: no .. about desktop-effects package
[11:32] <JohnFlux> ober0ne: maybe they updated since you last updated :-)
[11:32] <ober0ne> in half an hour?
[11:32] <louieb39c> lol
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> upDATE is just getting the package lists.
[11:32] <JohnFlux> ober0ne: :-)
[11:32] <louieb39c> hmn that's news to me
[11:33] <JohnFlux> ober0ne: oh, like Daisuke_Ido says, do you mean update or upgrade?
[11:33] <ober0ne> updates
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> which reminds me, i'm running the upgrade tool on the SO's lappy
[11:33] <intelikey> louieb39c add stuff to a release.... not likely
[11:33] <whytheam> It asks for the file system and I am a noob and really don't know waht to put. I used this guide http://www.smorgasbord.net/book/export/html/195
[11:33] <louieb39c> intelikey..?
[11:33] <bobbicat> will the new feisty live cd update an edgy installation?
[11:33] <louieb39c> I was referring to a blog for new users
[11:34] <ober0ne> hey, general question - I'm on edgy, ordered my feisty cd yesterday... what do you guys think of it?
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> live cd no
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> alternate cd yes
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ober0ne: lovin it
[11:34] <CVirus> JohnFlux: photon: in ubuntu, I can enable desktop effects with one click from the desktop effects manager ... I want the same in kubuntu
[11:34] <louieb39c> same here
[11:34] <ober0ne> what's different?
[11:34] <louieb39c> better driver support than vista :-P
[11:34] <ober0ne> that's not hard!
[11:34] <JohnFlux> CVirus: so install the gnome thing :-)
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> smaller memory footprint too
[11:34] <louieb39c> HAHHA
[11:35] <louieb39c> check out the change log
[11:35] <intelikey> CVirus i guess he told you...   :)
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you want eye candy, it doesn't require even a THIRD of the resources vista does
[11:35] <JohnFlux> CVirus: kwin is better.  it's best to just wait for kde :-)
[11:35] <ober0ne> I have the XFX geforce 7600 series from nvidia, and bloody vista made it look integrated
[11:35] <JohnFlux> CVirus: kde4 i mean
[11:35] <ober0ne> it was sad
[11:35] <louieb39c> haha
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> wait half ayear or better for kde 4?
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> are you drunk or... just stoned?
[11:36] <dennister> ober0ne: that's the same video card i've got
[11:36] <who_> just stoned
[11:36] <louieb39c> I love how XP has been out for..5 years? and its JUST 'stable'? yes I use that word lightly
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> "oh noes, no eye candy until at least october!"
[11:36] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido yeah why bother with it at all....
[11:36] <whytheam> what is my file system type?
[11:36] <ober0ne> dennister: love that card... geforce is GOD
[11:36] <dennister> i am just soooooo glad i decided long time ago to say 'no' to more of winblows
[11:36] <louieb39c> agreed
[11:36] <intelikey> whytheam mount
[11:36] <JohnFlux> i installed beryl, thought 'ooo pretty' then realised it wasn't like kwin, and turned it off
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: if you like that sort of thing, it's perfectly usable now without waiting for a release that's still a twinkle on the horizon
[11:36] <ober0ne> yeah... microsod has gotten enough of my time
[11:36] <whytheam> it wont work
[11:36] <kaneknows> Is there a way to make grep do a find/replace?
[11:36] <dennister> yes, ober0ne, can't beat lifetime warramtu times 2
[11:36] <louieb39c> did you hear Michael dell uses an ubuntu system?
[11:37] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido and if you don't why bother with any of it...
[11:37] <ober0ne> yeah
[11:37] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: true
[11:37] <intelikey> kaneknows no you want sed
[11:37] <dennister> in my books, that's putting your $ where ur mouth is: a real commitment to quality
[11:37] <nkoc_> Sysinfo for 'nkoc-ubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 1000 MHz (2007 bogomips), , RAM: 909/1011MB, 110 proc's, 57.54min up
[11:38] <ober0ne> ok, so I've pulled automatix down from the ethers... how do I use it now?
[11:38] <ober0ne> where would it install?
[11:38] <LjL> !automatix > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:38] <thefirstdude> is kubuntu pretty much based on python?
[11:38] <intelikey> kaneknows     sed 's/was/is now/g' file       example only
[11:38] <dennister> anyone have any idea why i can't seem to finish copying large files?
[11:38] <JohnFlux> kaneknows: sed -i -e 's/findword/replaceword/' file
[11:38] <Daisuke_Ido> well isn't that just lovely, bertha?  you figured out how to flash useless stats in an e-man-danglies competition!
[11:38] <LjL> thefirstdude: the kubuntu specific (i.e. made by kubuntu developers) software is, in good part
[11:38] <JohnFlux> intelikey: you need -i and -e
[11:38] <ober0ne> kk, thanks Ljl
[11:38] <louieb39c> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Feisty#Automatix2
[11:38] <intelikey> JohnFlux no
[11:39] <kaneknows> hrm thanks.
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> automatix has been rendered almost completely useless
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> thank god
[11:39] <intelikey> JohnFlux what i wrote will work.   you can expand it with -i and -e
[11:39] <Daisuke_Ido> the sooner it stops existing, the happier i will be
[11:39] <dennister> intelikey: ? how bout one of my fav helpers?
[11:39] <louieb39c> I don't understand daisuke
[11:39] <JohnFlux> hmm, it seems -e  is optional
[11:39] <intelikey> dennister ?
[11:40] <Daisuke_Ido> louieb39c: automatix is crap
[11:40] <louieb39c> what issues have you had?
[11:40] <ober0ne> so ok... if you don't like automatix, what else can I do? I did mention earlier that I suck in the terminal
[11:40] <dennister> yep...:-) for some reason i can't completely finish copying large files...process quits unexpectedly
[11:40] <JohnFlux> ober0ne: what are you trying to do ?
[11:40] <LjL> ober0ne: what do you *need* to do?
[11:40] <Daisuke_Ido> forgive the language, but it makes me want to rip peoples' souls out with an olive fork and sacrifice them to the dark lord in exchange for ridding the world of that piece of....
[11:40] <intelikey> dennister 2g restriction on vfat ?
[11:40] <ober0ne> I would love to have my mp3 and xvid codecs and such
[11:40] <Daisuke_Ido> ober0ne: using feisty?
[11:40] <louieb39c> daisuke I think that is pretty bias - it works perfect for me
[11:40] <LjL> ober0ne: are you on feisty?
[11:40] <dennister> ahhh...maybe
[11:40] <ober0ne> sadly no, not yest
[11:41] <ober0ne> yet*
[11:41] <LjL> !mp3 > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:41] <intelikey> dennister i need more info.     be concise
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> !automatix
[11:41] <nick_> ober0ne: automatix2 does the job
[11:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> louieb39c: this is the OFFICIAL word on automatix
[11:41] <LjL> !automatix > nick_    (nick_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:41] <ober0ne> the only reason I kept microsod around so long was for those codecs and the ease of installation
[11:41] <Daisuke_Ido> if you use it, don't come crying when things break, because they will.
[11:41] <dennister> k...trying to copy large 5.4 g files from mythtv to a vfat drive...only will copy 4.0 g
[11:41] <whytheam> nothing is working
[11:41] <LjL> ober0ne, i don't think xvid requires anything very special, though i might be mistaken - doesn't VLC read them fine?
[11:41] <ober0ne> yes
[11:42] <ober0ne> but apparently I can't get vlc
[11:42] <Daisuke_Ido> LjL: vlc <3
[11:42] <LjL> ober0ne: as for MP3, a bit of terminal might be needed, but you really just need to copy&paste what's in the guide
[11:42] <ober0ne> it's what I used on windows
[11:42] <dennister> message from copying kioslave, i believe, 'process quit unexpedly"
[11:42] <LjL> ober0ne: how so?
[11:42] <JohnFlux> dennister: fat32 doesn't support files larger than 4GB
[11:42] <Daisuke_Ido> ober0ne: enable universe, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:42] <louieb39c> ober I would make your own opinion - try it - and either love it or hate it
[11:42] <ober0ne> enable universe...
[11:42] <ober0ne> ok
[11:42] <ober0ne> umm
[11:42] <intelikey> dennister yeah vfat can only handle < 2g    you can break the file into chuncks and rejoin it later on something else if that helps
[11:42] <dennister> that's right...damn...i forgot
[11:42] <LjL> !universe > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:42] <ober0ne> I'm loving that ubotu
[11:42] <dennister> and that's why these mythtv files are on an xfs partition
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm gonna go have a smoke, i'm getting a little too cynical in here right now :)
[11:43] <kikkoman> Say #kubuntu, how do I open ports? I need to open 7000, 8000, and 50000
[11:43] <intelikey> dennister yep
[11:43] <LjL> ober0ne: i suggest that you simply let source-o-matic, a very handy site, create a new /etc/apt/sources.list for you (which is the file that lists the places software is downloaded from)
[11:43] <dennister> any suggestions for a chunk-breaker?
[11:43] <LjL> ober0ne: first, hit Alt+F2, and type  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 
[11:43] <wiglaf> hello everyone...
[11:43] <LjL> ober0ne: then erase the contents, and paste the stuff you obtain from source-o-matic. make sure you tick universe and multiverse in there, as well as seveas
[11:43] <LjL> !source-o-matic > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:44] <wiglaf> any info on why my apt-get update is going painfully slow and not able to hit everything (i'm trying to upgrade to Feisty)
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> LjL: there's a chance he won't have gedit (using kubuntu)
[11:44] <LjL> ober0ne: then save the file, and you're almost done. just type  sudo apt-get update  to sync with the new list, and then you can do  sudo apt-get install vlc  (or the same thing from the graphical Adept interface)
[11:44] <LjL> Daisuke_Ido: gah
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry
[11:44] <kikkoman> wiglaf: My upgrade to feisty was somewhat slow also, just wait it out >.>;
[11:44] <LjL> ober0ne: whenever i said  gksudo gedit , make that  kdesu kate , sorry
[11:45] <ober0ne> oddly enough the gksudo gedit worked
[11:45] <wiglaf> I'm trying to update my current packages, and it won't connect to some of the repos
[11:45] <louieb39c> well Ubuntu's servers are fast, but not THAT fast
[11:45] <ober0ne> or not
[11:45] <louieb39c> there are a lot of people downloading I assume
[11:45] <LjL> ober0ne: that would mean you have Ubuntu and not Kubuntu (or Ubuntu as well as Kubuntu =)
[11:45] <intelikey> ober0ne not odd.  you have gnome installed
[11:45] <wiglaf> yeah, most likely
[11:45] <whytheam> It wont mount!  DEAR GOD MAKE IT MOUNT !
[11:45] <wiglaf> I also have torrents running so I can get the alt CD and try to do an update that-wise
[11:46] <ober0ne> emmm... the list generator wants to generate one for ubuntu... does that matter?
[11:46] <intelikey> whytheam i'm not he, but if you'll give me the details i'll see what i can do
[11:46] <louieb39c> Love most about Ubuntu = Community :)
[11:46] <LjL> ober0ne: it's fine, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the very same distribution, just a different set of packages installed by default
[11:46] <wiglaf> I have the i386 CD already...so I may end up backing up and going from scratch...or resizing partitions and moving after the new install
[11:46] <ober0ne> ok
[11:46] <LjL> ober0ne: just make sure you select the mirror for your country - or a mirror you know is fast for you, anyway
[11:47] <ober0ne> so I'm enabling multi- and uni- verses?
[11:47] <intelikey> whytheam device name ?   desired mountpoint ?    and fs type ?
[11:47] <LjL> ober0ne: yeppers, and since you're interested in codecs, i'd also enable seveas and, possibly, medibuntu
[11:47] <makuseru> anyone know what the room for Ubuntu Studio is?
[11:47] <kikkoman> I've compiled the Unreal IRCd and it has loaded with no problems, but people cannot connect to it. I think it may be a problem of unopened ports. When people connect, it says Connection timed out. How would you solve it, /b/? >.>; I mean #kubuntu
[11:47] <wolferine> anyone good with proftpd, I cannot share an nfs share within my root, someone able to help?
[11:48] <whytheam> I entered the command [gedit /etc/fstab]  and changed /dev/hdd1 /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 to /dev/sdb /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0
[11:48] <ober0ne> ok, I didn't see those 2 repositories
[11:48] <whytheam> then mount
[11:48] <intelikey> whytheam these can be determined by     sudo fdisk -l     and ls /media   (assuming media is acceptable base dir)
[11:48] <LjL> ober0ne: scroll down...
[11:48] <jaims> hello
[11:48] <ober0ne> I saw seveas and medibuntu, but not the multi and uni
[11:48] <whytheam> it is
[11:48] <whytheam> it said it's there
[11:48] <jaims> one easy question
[11:49] <wiglaf> kickit, Jaims
[11:49] <LjL> ober0ne: those are the first two ones, and they're ticked by default anyway
[11:49] <jaims> updates for digicam and tzdata
[11:49] <intelikey> whytheam ok.    /dev/sdb  would be whole divice  not a partition is that the intent ?
[11:49] <ober0ne> Ohhh... ok
[11:49] <jaims> kubuntu edgy, kde 3.5.6
[11:49] <whytheam> yes
[11:49] <jaims> doesnt update
[11:49] <ober0ne> again with the attention to detail
[11:49] <wiglaf> oh, jaims...I'm having the same issue
[11:49] <dennister> for ubuntu-7.04-server I'm trying to seed, but there are 200 seeders and only 22 leechers :-)
[11:49] <jaims> ok
[11:49] <guga> hi
[11:49] <jaims> i expected that
[11:49] <guga> does anyone know what program i can use to build websites, similar to FrontPage ?
[11:49] <ober0ne> do I need to uncomment the gpg key?
[11:49] <jaims> i reckon its not important and will be fixed
[11:50] <wiglaf> that, and my apt-get update is taking 45mins...
[11:50] <VSpike> guga: quanta plus maybe
[11:50] <intelikey> whytheam   sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/storage
[11:50] <jaims> yes
[11:50] <jaims> same here
[11:50] <_4strO> guga: blufish, quante, nvu
[11:50] <guga> VSpike: is it in the repos _
[11:50] <guga> ?
[11:50] <intelikey> and tell me what it says if it says anything
[11:50] <_4strO> guga: quanta
[11:50] <wiglaf> guga...have you tried the OOo?
[11:50] <jaims> maybe due to feisty fawn dloads
[11:50] <louieb39c> guga this might due? www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-54.html
[11:50] <wiglaf> that's my guess, jaims
[11:50] <_4strO> guga: bluefish :p
[11:50] <LjL> ober0ne: don't uncomment anything, use what it gives you as-is
[11:50] <ober0ne> ok
[11:50] <whytheam> "you must specify the filesystem type"
[11:50] <jaims> aha
[11:51] <Franzmaximilian> Using edgy.  Since yesterday whatever package i try to install using Adept gives an error while installing like: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[11:51] <Franzmaximilian> any aidea?
[11:51] <jaims> ty wiglaf
[11:51] <intelikey> whytheam ok that message is saying that there is no filesystem on sdb
[11:51] <VSpike> guga: should be.  "sudo aptitude install quanta"
[11:51] <guga> thanks!!
[11:51] <intelikey> whytheam are you sure you don't want sdb1 ?
[11:51] <rstanca> guys, any ideea why my hd is now /dev/sda, not /dev/hda?
[11:51] <miki_> hi all
[11:51] <rstanca> weird
[11:51] <Daisuke_Ido> rstanca: it's a change in the new kernel, they're all sd* now
[11:51] <ober0ne> ok... kdesu kate won't let me save the new copy of sources.list
[11:51] <nick_> Has anyone noticed that this version of Amarok is pretty buggy?
[11:51] <VSpike> rstanca: kernel change
[11:52] <intelikey> rstanca yes   scsi emulation
[11:52] <kikkoman> #kubuntu, send me thy help. I need to open ports 6667, 7000, 8000, and 50000. Please tell me how to do such.
[11:52] <whytheam> yes it's just a storage hd no OS
[11:52] <intelikey> whytheam but does it have a partition table ?
[11:52] <Daisuke_Ido> you have to specify the filesystem type with -t <fstype>
[11:52] <jaims> kikkoman: maybe using firestarter
[11:52] <miki_> can you recommend any tool for resizing ext3 partition?
[11:52] <jaims> thats what i use
[11:52] <intelikey> whytheam   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[11:52] <whytheam> yes
[11:52] <kikkoman> jaims: >.>; What is that and how do I use it?
[11:52] <whytheam> hold on
[11:52] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me why apt-get dist-upgrade isnt working?
[11:52] <intelikey> whytheam then you want the partition not the disk.
[11:52] <LjL> ober0ne: uh? did it ask for a password before opening?
[11:53] <jaims> graphic front end for firewall
[11:53] <intelikey> whytheam   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/storage
[11:53] <ober0ne> yes, and I typed it in right and everything :p
[11:53] <LjL> ober0ne: what's it saying?
[11:53] <kikkoman> jaims: Ok, so how would I use it to open the ports?
[11:53] <ober0ne> I don't have write permissions
[11:53] <whytheam> it is but it worked ad sdb1 but my files arnt there
[11:53] <LjL> !doesn't work | fakepatriot
[11:53] <ubotu> fakepatriot: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:53] <jaims> piece of kake kikkoman
[11:53] <Arwen> how many of you guys upgraded to feisty yet?
[11:53] <intelikey> whytheam chmod  or chown
[11:53] <photon> Could you recommend a firewall frontend which does not require deep knowledge to configure?
[11:53] <jaims> install it
[11:54] <jaims> open it (youll have to type ur sudo pwd)
[11:54] <alphi_> configure: error: Please unset CONFIG_MODVERSIONS for /usr/src/linux and rebuild your kernel
[11:54] <LjL> ober0ne: weird enough. can you go to a terminal and type  ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list  for me please? (and give the output)
[11:54] <alphi_> can anyone help me do that ?
[11:54] <intelikey> whytheam you can read the manpage on both and decide which you want/need
[11:54] <markc> should a GeForce 6600 LE be nvdidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?
[11:54] <whytheam> I'm going to sound stupid but what
[11:54] <jaims> 3rd tab to set rules
[11:54] <Cugel> dudes I lost my trashcan -- where is my trash stored in feisty?
[11:54] <miki_> hm
[11:54] <wiglaf> I'm thinking I'm going to resize partitions and install, then move files/configs and absorb the old partitions
[11:54] <LjL> !firewall | photon
[11:54] <ubotu> photon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:54] <jaims> very easy, believe me
[11:54] <whytheam> got them
[11:54] <kikkoman> jaims: thanks :D
[11:54] <jaims> np
[11:54] <jaims> :)
[11:54] <ober0ne> "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1844 2007-04-20 17:19 /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:54] <whytheam> it's all there will it stay mounted
[11:55] <LjL> ober0ne: uhm, root does have write permissions. something seems wrong with your kdesu...
[11:55] <jaims> bye all
[11:55] <kikkoman> cya
[11:55] <fakepatriot> it sits on the couch all day and it won't clean its room! what else could i mean!? its not upgrading my distro...to me that sounds like not working...i apologize if it could mean something else
[11:55] <ober0ne> it worked before
[11:55] <jaims> thanks wiglaf
[11:55] <jaims> bye
[11:55] <intelikey> whytheam    ch=change  mod=mode (permissions)    own=ownership      chmod  to set permission    chown to change ownership      determine which you need/want and i'll help you use it.
[11:55] <markc> anyone with a GeForce 6600 LE ? did you use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?
[11:56] <wiglaf> markc...what does automatix install? I think it's nvidia-glx, and It likes my 6600 just fine
[11:56] <LjL> ober0ne: ok, i'm a bit at a loss (i could tell you other ways to do this, but we should get kdesu to work anyway). just please try closing kate and doing it all again
[11:56] <whytheam> will it mount at start up if yes that's all i need if no HOW DO I DO THAT
[11:56] <LjL> ober0ne: that is, type  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  in a terminal again, and paste your new list to it again, and try saving again
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> again with the automatix!
[11:57] <wiglaf> yeah...
[11:57] <Arwen> ick, automatix
[11:57] <markc> wiglaf: thanks, not sure I want to use automatix
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> once more:
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !automatix
[11:57] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:57] <LjL> wiglaf: you like unbootable systems too?
[11:57] <intelikey> whytheam you said no write access didnt you ?     and if you edit the fstab to sdb1 it will mount
[11:57] <louieb39c> wiglaf - my linux is digested along with the spoon
[11:57] <Franzmaximilian> Using Edgy.  Since yesterday, whatever package i try to install using Adept gives an error while installing like: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "  Any idea ??
[11:57] <Arwen> I could write a 2 line script to do everything that automatix does...
[11:57] <louieb39c> you will get that way too
[11:57] <whytheam> hold on
[11:57] <Arwen> and safely none the less
[11:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Franzmaximilian: in konsole: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[11:58] <fakepatriot> ok i'll try this again...does anyone know why apt-get dist-upgrade isn't upgrading my distro?
[11:58] <whytheam> i can save to it
[11:58] <louieb39c> arwen - then do it and put it on the web! gotta help the community
[11:58] <Arwen> louieb39c, pssh
[11:58] <whytheam> It just woulden't mount
[11:58] <wiglaf> straight-up, Arwen
[11:58] <Arwen> no point, MANUAL INSTALL
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention feisty makes automatix 99% obsolete
[11:59] <louieb39c> Im not a programmer - but Im here to do my part for the community - help who I an
[11:59] <intelikey> whytheam ok    then just edit the fstab and correct the  /dev/sdb   to  /dev/sdb1
[11:59] <whytheam> I NEED to know if it will mount at start up now
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> whytheam: with the correct fstab setting, yes it will
[11:59] <wiglaf> that's what kills me about the community...it needs some English majors, badly...lord help anyone looking for a manual
[11:59] <ober0ne> ok, it let me save that time
[11:59] <ober0ne> I think
[11:59] <intelikey> whytheam did you edit the fstab like i said ?
[11:59] <hummm41> hello everyone
[11:59] <Franzmaximilian> Yes Daisuke_Ido . I know I can do that. But why Adept does not work? It have always been working fine for me before
[11:59] <louieb39c> well wiglaf why are you here? on IRC that is
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> that will fix apt
[11:59] <markc> time for a reboot for  nvidia... thanks for the help
[11:59] <LjL> ober0ne: well, then type  sudo apt-get update  and then see if  sudo apt-get install vlc  works
[11:59] <ober0ne> now what?
[11:59] <wiglaf> because I couldn't find a manual!
[11:59] <intelikey> whytheam that's a yes or no question.   don't strain your brain thinking it over...
[11:59] <whytheam> it wont let me save
[11:59] <wiglaf> lol
[12:00] <louieb39c> HA
[12:00] <louieb39c> nice
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> do it and try again, though it's probably a single update that's causing problems
[12:00] <nick_> I've always preferred synaptic to adept
[12:00] <nick_> that was the first thing i installed
[12:00] <intelikey> whytheam save to your home dir and   sudo cp it back to /etc
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> filter it down to just upgradable packages and see what's broken
[12:00] <hummm41> I have a question for you about ubuntu server: can it be installer into a Pentium 1 with 256 MB RAM? Need a >= i686?
[12:01] <wiglaf> but enough whining from me...I should just go WTFM (Write the f manual)
[12:01] <ober0ne> ok, it's getting headers
[12:01] <dany_21> hello... i have (and also had prior feisty) a quite low harddisk/filesystem througput - from one drive to another i mostly get 5...6MB/s - in Win (on the same hardware) i have two...three times more - where could i search/tune? any ideas?
[12:01] <Franzmaximilian> Daisuke_Ido, I'm not doing upgrades. My Edgy is up to date.  I only want to add a few packages
[12:01] <louieb39c> I am really tempted to get a pS3, and throw linux on it despite my hatred for sony....but it runs on a hypervisor and it has 256Mb ram :( - even though its fast...I need  more for all my VMs!
[12:01] <Franzmaximilian> and none of them gets installed!
[12:01] <intelikey> whytheam    if you want me to dubble check the fstab for you pastebin it.
[12:01] <LjL> ober0ne: apt-get update should complete pretty fast. if it doesn't, you're probably using busy mirrors (you know, with feisty just released some of the mirrors are very loaded)
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> there's something it doesn't like...  what happens when you sudo apt-get -f install?
[12:02] <ober0ne> yeah
[12:02] <ober0ne> how do I change my mirrors?
[12:02] <ober0ne> (I oddly enough don't know a lot about mirrors)
[12:02] <intelikey> whytheam or if you only want that one line dubble checked    grep /dev/sdb /etc/fstab   and  drop it in here
[12:02] <Franzmaximilian> i will try now Daisuke_Ido  and will let you know.  thanks and see you later if needed
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[12:02] <LjL> ober0ne: you make a new sources.list from source-o-matic. or you just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change them manually, mirrors are all in the form "xx.archive.ubuntu.com", xx being a country code
[12:02] <whytheam> hold on
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> no need to leave here to do that though :)
[12:03] <LjL> ober0ne: i suggest you avoid the US mirrors and the UK mirrors right now. i'm using the swedish (se.archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:03] <pingveno> My CVS package has gotten corrupted, but when I'm trying to reinstall it my computer slows down, then freezes.
[12:03] <guga> !codecs
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:03] <pingveno> I think the fs might be screwed up
[12:03] <whytheam> feel realy stupid I forgot to put sudo in front it saved
[12:03] <wiglaf> avoid the canadian mirrors, now, too...I'm dragging on them ever so painfully
[12:03] <M_Fatih> hi, ubuntu not booting.. says `/dev/hda2 does not exists` and after `/bin/sh: can`t access tty; job control turned off` how can i boot.. i searched forums.. there too many users have this problem but there is no solution... i tired to try to fix this. :.....(
[12:04] <LjL> M_Fatih: there is a bug report (a few, actually) like that
[12:04] <ober0ne> why does vlc come from a security repository?
[12:04] <intelikey> whytheam yeah,   i find being in a hurry makes thing take 5 times as long....
[12:04] <M_Fatih> what must i do? i can`t work now?
[12:04] <LjL> M_Fatih: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/96084
[12:05] <whytheam> ok is that all i need to do
[12:05] <LjL> sorry but i haven't read it yet, i guess you'll have to take your own conclusions
[12:05] <intelikey> M_Fatih edit to sd in place of hd
[12:05] <LjL> ober0ne: probably because a security vulnerability was found after the Edgy release
[12:05] <ober0ne> ahh
[12:05] <intelikey> root=/dev/sd*
[12:05] <LjL> that's what the security repository is for, fixing vulnerabilities
[12:05] <hummm41> I have a question for you about ubuntu server feisty: can it be installed into a Pentium 1 with 256 MB RAM? it Needs a >= i686?
[12:05] <ober0ne> hey, if the conn timed out, will it try again, or try another mirror?
[12:06] <M_Fatih> hmm. i`m trying..
[12:06] <orient2000> give 5 minuts for CVS
[12:06] <LjL> ober0ne: if it times out, hit ctrl+c and try again. with the same mirror or another.
[12:06] <intelikey> whytheam do you want me to dubble check it or no ?
[12:06] <guga> what does the kubuntu logo mean when its next to a package name in adept _
[12:06] <guga> ?
[12:06] <whytheam> shure
[12:06] <wiglaf> hummm41: my opinion is just give'r a go...the i386 just may kickit
[12:07] <intelikey> whytheam short answer should be yes.     but if you want me to look    pastebin your fstab
[12:07] <louieb39c> hummm41 - get the alt edition I would say
[12:07] <intelikey> !paste | whytheam
[12:07] <ubotu> whytheam: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <M_Fatih> intelikey: only menu.lst right? fstab?
[12:07] <ober0ne> emm... LjL, can I send you a message with the output of kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:07] <intelikey> M_Fatih yes
[12:07] <M_Fatih> ok
[12:07] <ober0ne> it's a little big for the channel
[12:07] <LjL> ober0ne: uh? the *output* of it?
[12:07] <hummm41> thanks wiglaf and louieb39c
[12:07] <CVirus> Where is the "Show windows from all desktops" option in kde 3.5.6 ?
[12:07] <ober0ne> terminal output
[12:07] <LjL> ober0ne: well, that's what the pastebin is for
[12:07] <LjL> !pastebin > ober0ne    (ober0ne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:07] <intelikey> M_Fatih fstab be set  but you can dubble check
[12:08] <louieb39c> not a problem hummm
[12:08] <wiglaf> CVirus...right-click the panel, and configure panel
[12:08] <intelikey> M_Fatih fstab defaults to blkid
[12:08] <LjL> ober0ne: ok, send it. but of course it shouldn't be *giving* any significant terminal output...
[12:08] <ober0ne> lol
[12:08] <CVirus> wiglaf: and ?
[12:08] <M_Fatih> intelikey: i changed fstab UUIDs to hdx
[12:09] <intelikey> better make it sd
[12:09] <whytheam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667/
[12:09] <louieb39c> would anyone here have a ps3... with linux on it?
[12:09] <ober0ne> wait what? ps3??
[12:09] <guga> what does the kubuntu logo mean when its next to a package name in adept  ?
[12:09] <miki_> how to resize ext3 partition (with data on it)?
[12:09] <wiglaf> CVirus...
[12:10] <louieb39c> yea ober - I don't know if its worth it yet - the 8 cores are to drool over...but lack or ram and the fact it runs on a hypervisor makes me skeptical
[12:10] <wiglaf> it's in the taskbar section
[12:10] <CVirus> wiglaf: not there
[12:10] <intelikey> whytheam ok i would change the  0 0   at the end to   0 1   but it will work either way.
[12:10] <wiglaf> no?
[12:10] <guga> does feisty come with beryl or compiz ?
[12:11] <CVirus> wiglaf: not there
[12:11] <intelikey> whytheam  1 makes it replay the journal when mounting,  helps reduce the chance of corruption
[12:11] <wiglaf> no configure panel or no taskbar section in the window
[12:11] <intelikey> whytheam short answer looks good.    assuming the cdrom works.
[12:11] <thinkliberty> Anyone know how to turn on bash's page up regexp history completion?
[12:12] <Sanne> guga: I think the logo icon next to a package means it's officially supported (that is, is from main). I think.
[12:12] <louieb39c> so I guess no one tried throwing linux(hopefully an ubuntu variant) on the ps3 in here?
[12:12] <guga> thanks Sanne, what about beryl-compiz? is any of them installed by default ?
[12:13] <whytheam> yes it does
[12:13] <Sanne> guga: I heard they are installed by default in Ubuntu, but not in Kubuntu. I don't run Feisty yet, so I can't tell.
[12:13] <CVirus> wiglaf: no "show windows of the current desktop only"
[12:13] <the-erm> Anyone know off the top of their head what command you need to run to find out what version of kubuntu is installed?
[12:13] <guga> oh, ok, thanks
[12:13] <Doctor_Nick> scion: the failiure-mobile
[12:14] <wiglaf> no "Show windows from all desktops?"
[12:14] <BluesKaj> !repos
[12:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:14] <Sanne> guga: if you want to read some info about the different respoitories (main, universe...): http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components
[12:14] <wiglaf> I have that unchecked
[12:14] <Arwen> is it possible to convert a logical partition into a primary one?