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Theunikiko-afk: alright. thanks12:59
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ubotuNew bug: #107841 in soyuz "soyuz should manage and present 'views' of the archive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10784101:06
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=== Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0 public beta, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
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ubotuNew bug: #107973 in launchpad "Unable to switch off the display of email address in branch revision history" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10797311:31
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ubotuNew bug: #107971 in gcompris "Incomplete French translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10797111:40
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thumpermwh: howdy01:31
mwhthumper: hi!01:31
thumpermwh: I hear you'll be joining us soon01:31
mwhthumper: indeed, 10 days or something now01:32
thumpermwh: cool, ddaa and I have been going through a whole pile of stuff that needs doing01:32
thumpermwh: so some of that will be coming your way01:32
thumpermwh: unfortunately I won't be around for the bzr sprint in London01:32
mwhthumper: cool01:32
thumperbut we are going to get ddaa there01:32
mwhi have to say that i'm a little curious about what exactly i will be working on :)01:33
thumperand poolie will be there too01:33
mwhah, nicee01:33
thumpermwh: do you skype?01:33
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mwhit's very convenient for me, after i've settled in for a couple of weeks there's a sprint 2 hours train away from me (and on my friends' doorstep)01:33
mwhi have skyped a bit01:33
thumper2h? birmingham?01:34
thumpermwh: southhampton?01:34
mwhbristol01:34
thumpermwh: ah, the end of the m401:35
mwhindeed01:35
thumperI've never made it to bristol, but I got to bath a few times01:35
thumperno, wait01:35
thumperI went once for work01:35
thumperabout 8 years ago01:35
thumpervery brief though01:35
mwhheh01:35
mwhi've been there for 5 and a bit years now01:36
thumperI was in bristol for about 3 hours01:36
mwhheh01:36
thumpermwh: so you are english?01:36
mwhi am01:36
thumperor just stuck in england?01:36
mwhactually i'm in germany _right_ now :)01:36
thumperI noticed that from your ip mask01:36
mwhyou are from nz?01:36
thumperyep01:36
thumperin Paris right now01:37
thumperLondon next week01:37
thumperthen back to NZ01:37
ddaadon't believe .nz folks01:40
ddaathey blew that greenpeace ship and laid down the blame on us01:40
thumperoi01:41
thumperthose frog agents got caught fair and square01:41
ddaayou framed it!01:41
ddaas/it/him/01:41
thumperhim? them!01:42
thumperthere were two01:42
thumperguy and gal01:42
ddaanah, the gal was a .nz double agent and seduced him!01:42
thumpermaybe they were just french tourists01:42
thumpermwh: the lp-bzr bits are found at https://launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar01:43
ddaamwh: in any case, it's good to get an additional pair of hands on this team.01:44
thumpermwh: ddaa and I will be adding a few blueprints today01:44
ddaamwh: I think we met at europython01:44
jmlmwh: will you be on bazaar or lp-bzr stuff?01:44
mwhjml: lp-bzr01:45
jmlmwh: also hi :)(01:45
jmlmwh: sweet01:45
thumperjml: he is joining our world01:45
mwhddaa: right, i have vague memories of meeting you, i don't think we talked that much?01:45
jmlthumper: excellent01:45
ddaayou probably remember me as some weird french freako hanging around with Rob Collins.01:45
mwhi remember lots of dark hair, but on this i may just be confusing you with everyone else i know from paris :)01:46
thumpermwh: you are correct01:46
ddaamwh: that's a fair characterization, actually01:46
ddaayou've got pictures there https://wiki.canonical.com/StaffOverviewOrgChart01:48
kiko-afkkyle looks like such a freak in his photo01:49
ddaamy fav is Mark Murphy's01:49
kiko-afklol01:49
kiko-afkdoes he really look that much like kennedy?01:50
mwhddaa: _i_ don't have pictures, it seems01:50
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ddaamwh: meaning there's no picture of you, or you do not have the login/pass?01:50
mwhi don't have a login01:51
kiko-afkI would never have approved sinzui if I had seen what a disturbed individual he looks like!01:51
sinzuikiko-afk: did not troll the net very well01:51
kiko-afkat least your picture doesn't have blood and scabs in it I guess01:52
ddaasinzui: you do look like a psychopathic serial killer on this picture01:53
sinzuiddaa: yeah. I don't have many. The hackergotchi looks too over the top: https://launchpad.net/~sinzui-is01:54
sinzuiI was thinking to making everyone look like pirates on the staff page.01:55
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thumpersinzui: what's with the black hairy ring?01:57
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sinzuithumper: In some resolution is looks like an o-sumei ink drawing.01:58
sinzuithumper: I put it up to mock branding on my person page.01:58
thumpersinzui: sorry, just a black hairy ring!01:58
thumperand the other images it brings to mind, I don't want to mention01:59
sinzuiyet I've still manages to take a wife and breed.02:00
sinzuiyet I've still managed to take a wife and breed.02:00
ddaayou sure you do not mean "take a wife and bread"?02:00
sinzuiHow about spawn?02:01
ddaaIcan imagine that black ring being a spawning point indeed.02:01
ddaa</silly>02:02
sinzuiOne hopes all this abuse is taken in fun. The Au and Nz probably are, but I can never be sure about the Fr and the GB.02:04
ddaaAs a rule don't take me seriously when Italk about anything that's not code.02:05
ddaaIn all likelihood I'm either hip-shooting, trolling or being plain silly.02:05
thumpersome of us don't take ddaa seriously even when he is talking about code :)02:07
sinzuithat's better than me. Dry humour does work with emoticons so IRC make me sound like the freak I'm not.02:07
thumpercan't wait to meet you all in person02:07
jmlditto02:08
jmlexcept maybe thumper02:08
thumperjml: you will be sooner02:08
thumperjml: I talked to poolie about getting you to NZ soonish02:08
jmlthumper: so it's on the cards?02:09
thumperjml: yeah02:09
thumperI'll try to organise it more when I'm back home02:10
thumperand when you are much better02:10
jml:)02:10
jmlcool. I'll get a chance to christen my irish passport.02:10
thumperjml: lol02:11
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muszekhi... what does "triaging" (as in "triaging bugs with launchpad") mean?02:12
muszekI know it's a silly question, I just couldn't find a definition anywhere02:13
jmlmuszek: prioritising02:13
muszekjml: thank you02:13
jmlmuszek: it's a term borrowed from the medical profession02:13
mwhmuszek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage02:13
jmlhttp://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Atriage02:14
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muszekjml: linux borrows triaging, windows borrows viruses from medical profession ;)02:14
jmlheh02:14
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muszekjml, mwh: I was looking for "triaging" and "triag" - no wonder I didn't find anything02:15
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jmlmuszek: yeah, English sucks.02:15
mwhenglish spelling is ridiculous02:15
mwh(says two native speakers)02:16
muszekI'm Polish and believe me, English is not that bad :)02:16
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muszekmaybe spelling and pronunciation are more precise, but English is far simpler and more fliexible02:17
muszekanyways, thanks again and cya02:17
ubotuNew bug: #108062 in launchpad "Missing link(?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10806202:31
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bostik__hi all 02:58
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bostik__i run an ubuntu mirror in italy02:59
bostik__till this morning was listed in download mirror on launchpad and on ubuntu.com02:59
bostik__now it is listed only as archive on lauchpad 03:00
bostik__and as mirror for iso download on ubuntu-it.org 03:00
bostik__any idea ???03:00
salgadohi bostik__ 03:01
bostik__hi salgado 03:01
salgadoso, IIUC, your mirror is not shown at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors03:01
salgadoalthough it's shown at the +archivemirrors page?03:02
salgadoor you mean www.ubuntu.com/download?03:02
bostik__both 03:03
bostik__our mirror is ubuntu.fastbull.org03:03
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bostik__you can find it in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors under italian mirror03:03
bostik__but not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors03:04
bostik__and also not in www.ubuntu.com/download?03:04
bostik__yesterday we were listed there 03:04
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bostik__it seems italian mirror disapeared03:05
salgadobostik__, right, we're updating those lists every hour since the release03:05
salgadoand every time we update, we may remove mirrors that seem to be overloaded03:05
bostik__what u check , i mean wich file ?? 03:05
bostik__ah ok 03:06
bostik__it's a thing of overloading 03:06
salgadowe check all iso images that a mirror should contain03:06
bostik__so u check timeouts ?03:06
salgadowe look for timeouts and missing files03:06
salgadoare you the one who registered https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.fastbull.org-release?03:07
bostik__yes 03:07
salgadoif you're the register, you can see the last log file03:07
salgadoyou'll see that there were lots of timeouts03:07
salgadowe'll probe the mirror again soon, and if it doesn't timeout it'll be re-added to the list03:08
bostik__thanx 03:09
bostik__only another question03:09
salgadosure03:09
bostik__i setted up my mirror so that in apache we have a maxclient limits of 300 03:09
bostik__how are setted other mirrors ??03:10
salgado(the ubuntu.com/download is updated with the list from launchpad, btw)03:10
bostik__what is you suggestion ?03:10
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salgadobostik__, that's a good question, but I'm afraid I don't know the answer. I only wrote the software which DoSes^Wprobes the mirrors03:11
bostik__oks 03:11
bostik__:D03:11
salgadobostik__, Znarl is the right person to ask03:11
salgadoZnarl, around?03:11
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salgadobostik__, are you subscribed to the https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mirrors mailing list?03:13
salgadothat may also be a good place to ask03:13
bostik__i have to ask to my co worker we run mirror in 3 persons 03:13
bostik__:D03:13
bostik__i have to ask 03:13
bostik__:D03:13
bostik__thanx a lot03:13
salgadoyou're welcome!03:14
bostik__i have to reboot i'll check Znarl l8r 03:15
bostik__bye03:15
ubotuNew bug: #108078 in malone "Search for bugs I've provided a patch for" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10807803:20
Znarlsalgado : Need me?03:24
salgadoZnarl, a guy (bostik__) was asking what'd be a reasonable limit to the number of simultaneous connections on his mirror03:26
Znarlsalgado : Ah the fastbull admin.  Tough question.  The admins in #ubuntu-mirrors can help with this kinda question.03:28
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popeyflacoste: moo03:32
flacostepopey: ready for the call?03:32
popeyyup03:32
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ubotuNew bug: #108089 in launchpad "'Download RDF metadata' in Actions portlet should go to a page with further explanation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10808904:01
ubotuNew bug: #108104 in soyuz "sha1 mismatch reject message is confusing and unhelpful" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10810404:26
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indravenihi04:48
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indraveniI read about the rosetta, and I just want to confirm one small thin04:49
indraveniRosetta, is an application which will fetch the strings to be translated from the pacakge and gives the user and the user need to translate those strings, is it right04:50
indraveni(or)  Rosetta itself does the translation if we upload the package to it04:50
indravenimrevell, hi04:51
mrevellindraveni: Hi04:51
indravenimrevell, have you seen my query? any idea about this doubt?04:52
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mrevellindraveni: Rosetta is an application that makes it easy for people to translate strings. It doesn't do the translation itself. However, it does have a large library of strings that it already knows about, so can sometimes make suggestions.04:53
indraveniok05:02
indravenimrevell, but in the tour there is no way how to upload a pacakge and how to translate, only the steps are explained05:02
statikdanilos: ^05:03
mrevellindraveni: Have you seen our Feature Guide? https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/SoftwareTranslation05:03
mrevellindraveni: That'll give you a good overview of how translations work. Then, as statik has suggested, danilos or carlos are the best people to help you. They're part of our Launchpad Translations team.05:04
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induindraveni is now known as indu05:05
indumrevell, ok thankyou05:05
indumrevell, could you please  tell me the chat name of statik05:06
mrevellindu: Have you set up a project already?05:06
indumrevell, and danies05:06
indumrevell, yes,05:06
mrevellindu: Great. What's the project name?05:07
mrevellBOSS05:07
mrevell?05:07
indumrevell, BOSS05:07
indumrevell, yes05:07
mrevellindu: statik is Elliot Murphy's chat name.05:07
mrevellindu: Carlos and Danilos are the chat names of the Translations guys.05:08
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indumrevell, ok thanks a lot05:08
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daniloshey indu05:08
indumrevell, One person from Ubuntu has come to our center and he met me05:09
indumrevell, I forgot the name all of a sudden05:09
mrevellindu: Ah, excellent. Was it Matt Barker?05:09
indudanilos, hi05:09
danilosindu, if you need help with Launchpad Translations, just ping me :)05:09
indudanilos, sure , just now mrevell given me a guide link, I need to study that, later I will ping you05:09
indumrevell, yes, I think its matt Baerker05:10
danilosindu: sure05:10
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bostikhi all again05:11
bostikZnarl: are u there ?05:11
indumrevell, he talked with me, and said that Elliot is the right person to contact05:11
indumrevell, danilos anyway, thankyou for your help05:11
mrevellindu: Ah, I see. Elliot is always happy to help.05:12
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Znarlbostik : Hello, can you join #ubuntu-mirrors to ask mirror related questions?05:12
statikindu: hi again. Are you looking for specific help on getting uploading your translations for some projects into rosetta?05:13
industatik, yes05:14
industatik, I want to see the sample , for which I need to steps to proceed further05:14
bostikZnarl: yes, sure05:14
statikindu: it's probably helpful to talk about this with a specific example. what project to you want to start with?05:15
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industatik, I am a development team member of BOSS a debian based distribution05:15
industatik, and we are also doing locallization for the gnome05:16
industatik, so I want use rosetta for translating the gnome packages, 05:16
danilosindu: well, there are several ways for you to proceed05:17
indudanilos, please let me know them05:18
indudaily you all will be available here in this timings?05:19
danilosindu: the easy way (at least for us) is to upload a tarball with all the PO files05:19
indudanilos, ok05:20
indudanilos, then?05:20
danilosindu: yes, I am here between 10UTC and 18UTC every work day05:20
indudanilos, but that is the end of the day for us :(05:20
danilosindu: another is to set up automatic system, but that's a lot more work for us, and we'd have to wait for carlos (who is on holidays, and only back on Monday)05:20
danilosindu: I am commonly here even earlier (sometimes as early as 6UTC), but it depends05:21
indudanilos, ok, let us see this procedure for now05:21
induwhere do i need to upload this tar ball05:22
danilosindu: when you register a product, you can choose to use Launchpad for translations05:22
danilosindu: do you already have a product registered in LP (shorthand for Launchpad ;)?05:22
indudanilos, yes05:23
indudanilos, it is BOSS05:24
induhttp://launchpad.net/boss05:24
danilosindu: if you go to https://translations.launchpad.net/BOSS can you see "Upload Translations" among actions?05:24
statikdanilos: BOSS is registered as a distro05:24
danilosstatik: ah, right, thanks05:31
indudanilos, no, that option is not available05:31
danilosindu: ok, so no "upload translations" for you since it's registered as a distro05:31
indudanilos, may be05:31
danilosindu: unfortunately, we don't have a perfect solution for this at the moment; we've got the option of automating it just the way we do for Ubuntu, but carlos is more proficient in that area so I'd have to talk to him on Monday about it05:31
danilosindu: btw, is it only GNOME you want to translate for BOSS?05:31
danilosindu: if it's only GNOME packages, I suspect you may want to use GNOME packages in Ubuntu05:31
indudanilos, danilos I was it for Indian language translations05:33
danilosindu: ah, so you want to use Launchpad to translate GNOME regardless of BOSS? Then, at the moment, the right thing to do is to translate Ubuntu packages for GNOME05:33
danilosindu: do you have any specific GNOME version in mind, or do you want the latest one?05:35
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indudanilos, anyway, I can wait till monday as this is the weekend05:36
indudanilos, no no, i was to translate gnome with BOSS only05:37
indubut where does it differ05:37
indudanilos, anyway, i need to translate gnome pacakges and then rebuild BOSS. Right?05:37
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danilosindu: well, that's how it usually works (though, we provide something much better for ubuntu, but doing it for other distros is much work)05:40
danilosindu: (for ubuntu, we automatically build language packs so no rebuilding packages is required)05:41
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indudanilos, Idint understand your last statement of ubuntu way,06:01
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indudanilos, but I will talk to you about this later06:01
indudanilos, as now its very late for me to go home06:01
danilosindu: sure, talk to you later06:01
indudanilos, thankyou, will talk to you on monday06:01
indudanilos, bye06:01
indudanilos, good day06:01
danilosindu: great, looking forward to hearing from you, bye06:02
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ubotuNew bug: #108171 in launchpad "launchpad.net/malone/bugs/NNN should redirect to launchpad.net/bugs/NNN" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10817106:40
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bacstatik: ping07:50
statikbac: hi07:51
bacstatik: you have time for a quick call?07:51
statikbac: sure, starting skype07:52
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get21hello07:56
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get21i have some question, is anyone here pls ?07:56
kikoyes07:56
kikothere are many people here pls07:56
get21kiko :) my english is bad but i hope you understand me07:57
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get21i just registe at   https://launchpad.net to command ubuntu CDs but now i want to delete my accound07:57
kikoget21, so far it's been all good07:57
get21how can i do this ?07:57
kikoget21, so there is no automatic way to delete accounts, but you can request to have it deactivated07:57
kikovisit answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/07:58
kikoand file a new question07:58
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get21i search on the website and i find this08:00
get21currently it's not possible to delete an account. As a workaround you can remove all your personal details from your launchpad home page.08:00
get21not very good but...this is it :(08:01
get21but if i dont open my accound on 60 days he will autoremove ?08:01
kikoget21, no, but if you file a request we can get it removed.08:04
get21if you file a request ? can you exaplin me ? you want to tell me to put a "cerer" on forum ?08:05
get21ah :(08:06
get21wait 2 sec08:06
get21"cerere" = application08:06
get21sorry for my.. :)08:06
apokryphoskiko: hi again :)08:09
kikoapokryphos!08:09
kikoremind me what account that was.08:09
get21kiko , me ?08:10
apokryphoskiko: I'm ~apokryphos and the dormant one is ~francis08:10
kikoapokryphos, so this guy imported a template once..08:12
kikowhy don't you email him first?08:12
apokryphoskiko: ok, sure08:12
apokryphoskiko: shall I tell him to contact you with the ok if he's fine with it?08:13
kikoapokryphos, yes.08:13
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get21kiko, whare can i reguest to remove my account ?08:27
kikohttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion08:30
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LaserJockhi kiko 08:30
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kikohey LaserJock 08:31
get21thx kiko, have a good day08:36
get21goodbye08:36
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ubotuNew bug: #108240 in launchpad "SourcePackage and DistributionSourcePackage should have a common anscestor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10824009:20
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ubotuNew bug: #108246 in launchpad-answers "SourcePackage shouldn't directly provide IQuestionTarget" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10824609:35
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beijinghi, tinyurl.com is blocked in the country i'm staying. would someone provide me the full URL. thanks10:09
beijingof the channel logs10:09
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matsubarabeijing: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/10:13
beijingmatsubara: got it. many thanks!10:13
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JanChttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/107938  I think I have a rosetta bug + a strange translation import/export(?) bug here...11:02
ubotuMalone bug 107938 in apt "Dutch text in apt-get displayed at the wrong place" [Undecided,In progress]   - Assigned to Jan Claeys (janc)11:02
JanClooks like some machine-proposed fuzzy translations got into the translations without checking11:03
JanCplus some .po import bug ?11:07
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