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[03:25] <jrib> Tell: hi
[03:25] <BHSPitMonkey> heh, I forgot about this place.
[03:25] <Tell> hi :s
[03:25] <jrib> Tell: remind me what you want to do please
[03:25] <Tell> so eh... installing nvidia drivers. I'd really appreciate some help :s
[03:25] <jrib> Tell: what version of ubuntu?
[03:25] <Tell> I right click the run file, theres no mark for installation button
[03:25] <Tell> 7.04
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[03:26] <BHSPitMonkey> Tell, does it appear in System>Administration>Restricted Drivers...
[03:26] <jrib> Tell: hmm, did you try system > administration > restricted drivers manager?
[03:26] <jrib> oh, too fast
[03:26] <BHSPitMonkey> jrib, I win!
[03:26] <Tell> yeah,it shows it there
[03:26] <Ax4> wow this is a cool room
[03:26] <Ax4> good idea :) just read the wiki about what you guys do here
[03:27] <jrib> Tell: you should be able to just use that program.  You don't need to download anything off the web to install stuff in ubuntu
[03:27] <Tell> it says it may be using driver software that cannot be supported
[03:27] <BHSPitMonkey> well yeah
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[03:27] <jrib> Tell: yes, because the nvidia driver is closed source
[03:27] <TheIronChef> ah yes.... fellow n00bs
[03:27] <BHSPitMonkey> Tell, that's because it's nVidia's driver, not an open-source one.
[03:28] <Tell> so its safe to enable it?
[03:28] <Tell> and man,its nice to be in a chatroom where I can see my own text after 20 seconds :)
[03:28] <jrib> Tell: you are basically trusting nvidia
[03:28] <Tell> is there any instant way to check if it didnt install right?
[03:29] <jrib> oh you will find out :)
[03:29] <Tell> lol
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[03:29] <Tell> so eh, whats the story with beryl? Ive heard great things :D
[03:29] <TheIronChef> my vid card only has 32 mb ... htats not close enough to run beryl right lol i had tried but it jsut made my screen white
[03:30] <Tell> mine's 256meg
[03:30] <jrib> Tell: it's nice eye candy
[03:30] <Tell> prettyness is important in this world :P
[03:30] <Tell> rotatable desktop also sounds pretty damn good
[03:30] <jrib> Tell: did the nvidia drivers enable without a problem?
[03:30] <Tell> is it hard to install?
[03:30] <TheIronChef> hey jrib (or anyone else) you want a joost invite?
[03:30] <Tell> theyre downloading, my friend is getting a torrent at 8.1meg/s, so Im getting about 20kbps 
[03:31] <jrib> TheIronChef: isn't it windows only?
[03:31] <TheIronChef> they are realeasing it int he near future fo rlinux
[03:31] <BHSPitMonkey> what's joost
[03:31] <TheIronChef> ive run it before installing feisty and it is sweet
[03:31] <TheIronChef> cbs just signed on as well
[03:32] <Tell> so whats a good AIM/MSN alt for ubuntu?
[03:32] <TheIronChef> but it is kinda useless now... apparently doesnt run on WINE
[03:32] <Tell> and is beryl hard to install?
[03:32] <TheIronChef> yea i really dont like gaim... the buddy lsit is HUGE
[03:32] <jrib> Tell: if you already enabled nvidia drivers and restarted X, it should be one click to get 3d desktop
[03:32] <TheIronChef> yea theres a red diamond
[03:33] <jrib> TheIronChef: tell gaim not to show icons on the buddy list
[03:33] <TheIronChef> u may need ot install beryl-manager
[03:33] <Tell> download done, restarting
[03:33] <Tell> does beryl come with the flame window? :P
[03:34] <BHSPitMonkey> Tell, gaim, and you already have it
[03:34] <Tell> like, minimise/max = window goes down/up in flames
[03:34] <Tell> gaim? o_O
[03:34] <BHSPitMonkey> Tell, Applications>Internet>Gaim
[03:34] <TheIronChef> you its already on your comp lol
[03:34] <BHSPitMonkey> Tell, beryl comes with its flame effect.
[03:35] <Tell> Restarted, got a restricted driver warning, and an icon in the systray
[03:36] <jrib> Tell: did the warning say something was wrong?
[03:36] <Tell> No, nothing in specific I dont think
[03:36] <jrib> Tell: you can try enabling 3d effects in  system > preferences if you want
[03:37] <TheIronChef> hm i have my clock syncronized withthe one at penn state... but its not updating
[03:38] <Tell> wheres the option to enable 3d effects?
[03:38] <jrib> Tell: system > preferences > desktop effects
[03:38] <jrib> I thought it said "3d" for some reason
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[03:39] <Tell> lol, turned it on, love the bendy windows
[03:40] <Tell> how do I get the 3d rotating desktop and flame effects?
[03:41] <jrib> well that gives you compiz
[03:42] <jrib> I'm not sure of an easy way to configure it
[03:42] <jrib> Tell: can you press ctrl-alt and left click and drag to move the cube?
[03:43] <TheIronChef> do you use rythmbox to play music?
[03:43] <jrib> sometimes
[03:44] <Tell> yeah, that worked :D
[03:44] <TheIronChef> i liked how windows media player would turn into a mini player
[03:44] <TheIronChef> rythmbox needs that abilitly
[03:44] <Tell> so er, pretty flame effects? ;P
[03:44] <jrib> Tell: I found gnome-compiz-manager in the universe repo.  It looks like a gui way to manage your settings.  Otherwise you have to use gconf-editor
[03:44] <jrib> no idea if compiz does flames
[03:45] <Tell> should I just install and set up beryl?
[03:45] <jrib> Tell: if you want to
[03:45] <Tell> is it good?
[03:45] <jrib> compiz and beryl have decided to merge back
[03:45] <Tell> ..sorry,fuck,I work tech support for windows pc's, and I know all these questions sound bloody AWFUL
[03:46] <jrib> !language
[03:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:46] <jrib> Tell: you should be able to just install "beryl" if you have enabled the Universe Repository
[03:46] <jrib> Tell: I would disable desktop effects first though, that gave me some trouble
[03:46] <TheIronChef> um i jsut clicked the "desktop effects" in system>preferences ... it says i need ot install a driver to accelerate my ndivia card
[03:47] <TheIronChef> but last time i sintall the driver my screen went balck and i reinstalled ubuntu
[03:47] <TheIronChef> should i enable driver? or forget about it
[03:47] <TheIronChef> nvidia*
[03:47] <Tell> whats the universe repo, and how do I enable it?
[03:47] <jrib> !universe > Tell    (Tell, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:49] <jrib> TheIronChef: well, you can try :)  Worst case scenario, you get stuck with no X and have to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfiure xserver-xorg' to get back to the "nv" driver
[03:49] <jrib> TheIronChef: did you say you had a 32mb card?
[03:49] <TheIronChef> yea ... old comp :(
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[03:51] <Tell> so should I get  corbiz or beryl for eyecandy?
[03:52] <jrib> compiz
[03:52] <Tell> sorry, compiz :)
[03:52] <Tell> and thatll take over from the effects manager?
[03:52] <jrib> beryl has more plugins, but it isn't as stable (or so it's claimed since both of them are buggy as hell)
[03:54] <TheIronChef> is compiz less strenuous
[03:55] <Tell> and er, where can I get compiz again?
[03:55] <Tell> enabled universe..files...thing o_o
[03:56] <TheIronChef> apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz?
[03:56] <Tell> ...newbie
[03:57] <TheIronChef> lol
[03:57] <Tell> type that in terminal?
[03:57] <TheIronChef> im so lost
[03:57] <TheIronChef> yea
[03:57] <jrib> Tell: compiz is what you have now with the Desktop effects
[03:57] <Tell> ..I am lost
[03:58] <Tell> so how do I get the flame effects and a six-sided desktop cube :P
[04:02] <jrib> Tell: disable desktop effects, install the beryl package
[04:04] <Tell> alright, doing so now
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[04:05] <Tell> so er..are there any good rts games ported for linux?
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> well
[04:05] <Tell> and do networks like it when linux plays with windows?
[04:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Tremulous blends FPS with RTS
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> in a freakin' awesome game
[04:06] <Tell> ...isnt that a quake mod?
[04:06] <Tell> or hl even
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> quake 3 spinoff, yeah
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> it's based on the q3 engine
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> it's standalone at this point.
[04:06] <Tell> hows about age of empires, command and conquer,and so on
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> and you can apt-get it
[04:06] <Tell> are all those games gone now?
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> uh
[04:06] <BHSPitMonkey> I wouldn't know
[04:07] <Tell> and is there no such thing as a standalone installer on ubuntu?
[04:08] <Tell> like,is everything done through terminal/addremove?
[04:08] <jrib> repositories are preferred
[04:09] <Tell> how confusing o_o
[04:09] <Tell> so er, where can I get some decent themes? beryl again?
[04:09] <jrib> themes for beryl, I have no clue, try their website's wiki or ask in #ubuntu-effects
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[04:19] <Tell> lol,I think ubuntu just froze
[04:20] <BHSPitMonkey> k
[04:20] <benlake> Tell: if you download a package from X software vendor, it will install when double clicked, in an installer type fashion
[04:20] <BHSPitMonkey> standalone installers are .deb packages
[04:21] <BHSPitMonkey> there are also other kinds that you just run, and they take care of themselves, but they're not controlled by your normal package managers.
[04:21] <benlake> Tell: Due to the nature of most free software, a central point of finding and installing packages is quite convenient and straitforward.
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-classroom: The classroom schedule is located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom | Transcripts and logs are at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts | *If you ask a question, hang out for an answer :) *
=== Topic (#ubuntu-classroom): set by nalioth at Sun Feb 11 00:57:35 2007
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[10:32] <NewbieBaba> hi
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[11:22] <NewbieBaba> hi
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[04:01] <michaelp1> i've just installed xubuntu, the sound is not working, the keyboard shift key is not working, is it driver problem/ how do i fix it/
[04:03] <jrib> michaelp1: try #ubuntu or #xubuntu
[04:03] <jrib> not many people idle here
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[04:04] <michaelpo> jrib: thanks...
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[07:20] <Phantomse> QUESTION:I'm trying to instal a driver for internet conection.
[07:20] <Phantomse> The modem is named Z010
[07:20] <Phantomse> drivers and instalmanual:
[07:20] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.tar.gz
[07:20] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.txt
[07:20] <jrib> Phantomse: use #ubuntu for help, this channel is usually dead
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[10:46] <arufuredosan> hi everybody
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[10:56] <arufuredosan> can anybody help me out to set my nick with nickserv?
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[10:58] <arthur_kalm> hi everyone
[10:59] <arufuredosan> hey arthur can you help me set my nick with nick server
[10:59] <Jordan_U> I don't think that everyone is going to say hi back :)
[10:59] <arufuredosan> I keep getting an error
[10:59] <arthur_kalm> I installed Fiesty an hour or so ago and I am unable to use the latest nVidia drivers. I attempted to install nvidia-glx-new and for some reason X fails to load saying:Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[11:00] <arthur_kalm> I attempted to install the drivers from the nVidia site, and now the complaint is that my kernel and X module versions do not match... it never complained when I used nvidia-glx-new (same version)...
[11:00] <Jordan_U> arthur_kalm, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and choose "nv" when asked about what driver to use
[11:00] <arthur_kalm> arusfuredosan: hmm I did that a really long time ago and I don't remember how
[11:00] <arufuredosan> grrr
[11:01] <arufuredosan> I just want to follow the rules
[11:01] <arthur_kalm> Jordan_U: yes it load's with the nv module, but I need the nvidia module for dual monitors and Beryl/Compiz support
[11:01] <Jordan_U> arufuredosan, You just trying to register your nick
[11:01] <Jordan_U> ?
[11:01] <arufuredosan> yep
[11:01] <Jordan_U> arthur_kalm, Have you tried the restricted driver manager?
[11:02] <arthur_kalm> Jordan_U: the restricted driver manager installs nvidia-glx, which doesn't work with my card. The nVidia 8800 GTS requires the latest drivers
[11:02] <Jordan_U> !register
[11:02] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
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[11:03] <arufuredosan> thanks
[11:03] <mtm8> I'm trying to make a custom Ubuntu based LiveCD. I'm following through this: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ and when I get to the preseeding section, specifically the partitioning section, it becomes a bit unclear as to what my options are.
[11:03] <mtm8> I don't want to use partman-auto simply because sfdisk /dev/sda < /etc/partitions.list does the same thing. Can I call d-i preseed/early_command string sfdisk /dev/sda < /etc/partitions.list instead of partman-auto ?
[11:03] <mtm8> I'd really appreciate someone guiding me through this process step by step if possible :)
[11:03] <arufuredosan> now it seems I have registered
[11:03] <arufuredosan> not
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[11:05] <Jordan_U> mtm8, Are you sure you posted the right link?
[11:05] <mtm8> Jordan_U: Yes, why?
[11:06] <mtm8> Jordan_U: It says Debian, but the Ubuntu Installation Guide is effectively the same thing. If it makes it easier for others I'll post the Ubuntu link as well.
[11:06] <Jordan_U> mtm8, Because you are talking about creating a custom Ubuntu LiveCD then Linking to Debian install instructions
[11:06] <Jordan_U> mtm8, but what does that have to do with making a custom LiveCD?
[11:07] <mtm8> Jordan_U: If you scroll further down you'll see that there is something about preseeding.
[11:07] <Jordan_U> mtm8, To create a custom Ubuntu LiveCD just loopmount the iso, chroot into it and have fun
[11:07] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I can't find the Ubuntu installation guide online. I know it comes on the ISO and that on the ISO it's under doc/install/en/etc. etc. etc.
[11:08] <mtm8> mtm8: I can't chroot into it for some reason. Also, d-i is supposedly the official way to do everything related to LiveCD making.
[11:08] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I couldn't chroot into the loopmount'd ISO.
[11:08] <arthur_kalm> Jordan_U: is there a list of all the channels available?
[11:09] <mtm8> arthur_kalm: /list or you can use searchirc.com
[11:09] <Jordan_U> mtm8, I forgot, you also need to mount the squashfs file system, that is what you chroot into
[11:11] <cmcculloh> you can also look here for a list of ubuntu channels: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:11] <arthur_kalm> mtm8 thank you
[11:11] <Jordan_U> mtm8, http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[11:11] <mtm8> mtm8: Can you go a bit more indepth? I've searched all over the internet and they all specify to copy casper/filesystem.squashfs somewhere but I haven't found that in Feisty's alternate install CD.
[11:11] <mtm8> I'll take a look at the website though.
[11:12] <mtm8> $ sudo mount -t squashfs -o loop,ro $WORK/ubuntu-livecd/casper/filesystem.squashfs $WORK/old -> I can't find that.
[11:12] <Jordan_U> mtm8, Ahh, that is because the alternate install CD is not a LiveCD, it doesn't have one
[11:13] <mtm8> Jordan_U: Is there a way to do that with the alternate install CD?
[11:13] <Jordan_U> mtm8, Yes, but it is a completely different process
[11:13] <mtm8> mtm8: I'm all ears.
[11:14] <mtm8> Jordan_U: By the way, thank you so much for help thus far. I've asked around on IRC after hours of Google'ing and I keep getting nasty remarks like this from the folks in #debian:
[11:14] <mtm8> < Throat> mtm8: god can probably help you - he is omnipotent by definition, so that inculdes the power to help you
[11:16] <Jordan_U> mtm8, I have never tried to customize the alternate install CD but I know it's possible, I'm googleing around now
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[11:17] <Wesley> P
[11:17] <Jordan_U> mtm8, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[11:17] <mtm8> Yeah, that's why I brought up the d-i configuration thing.
[11:18] <Jordan_U> mtm8, What are you trying to customize about it?
[11:18] <mtm8> I need help customizing it further because the guide doesn't do an adequate job, in my opinion, of explaining all that I need to accomplish.
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[11:18] <Wesley> happy 420!
[11:19] <mtm8> mtm8: I'll be wiping Windows machines (hurray!) to install a custom image built by a Linux Users Group on campus. Then I have to dump Windows back on the remaining free space (darn :().
[11:19] <mtm8> Grr. I meant Jordan_U.
[11:20] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I tried out reconstructor because it seems to do exactly what I want but it only works up until Edgy.
[11:20] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I started hacking the Python source to get it to work with Feisty but I decided it was too much work especially since it didn't seem to figure out how to get filesystem.squashfs type stuff working (on the alternate CD, but that's because it doesn't have such a file).
[11:21] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I also tried UCK, but that demands that you use a graphical environment.
[11:21] <Jordan_U> mtm8, I know there is an "OEM" install mode but I don't know anything more than that about it
[11:23] <Wesley> mmm
[11:23] <Wesley> man that somes good ganja
[11:24] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I want to be able to pop in a few LiveCDs over a computer lab and deploy Linux all over. It would establish a partition table automatically with sfdisk, then make filesystems automatically with presets as well, then mount and extract a custom tarball of modified configuration files and such. It would then install certain packages we need to get it to work and finally it would eject the CD, reboot and just work.
[11:24] <mtm8> Jordan_U: OEM install still requires configuration. I don't even want that.
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[11:36] <Jordan_U> mtm8, I am still looking around but it seems you know more about this than I do :)
[11:36] <rickfdez> looking for help - burned the ISO for Ubuntu 7.04 for PPC and tried to boot from cd on my G5 Mac. But it always want to install rather than run from CD. likely don't know what i'm doing. advise please?
[11:39] <rickfdez> question - how to boot from cd to desktop with PPC version of Ubuntu
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[11:55] <mtm8> Jordan_U: I changed my mind because I'd like to learn how to get it to work properly with the alternate CD.
[11:56] <mtm8> Jordan_U: So starting from scratch. I downloaded the kubuntu-7.04-alternate.iso and stored it in ~/iso
[11:56] <mtm8> Jordan_U: mkdir ~/kubuntu-alternate-stock
[11:57] <mtm8> Jordan_U: sudo mount -o loop ~/iso/kubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso ~/kubuntu-alternate-stock/
[11:57] <mtm8> Jordan_U: mkdir ~/mylivecd
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[11:59] <mtm8> Jordan_U: cp -r kubuntu-alternate-stock/* ~/mylivecd
[12:00] <mtm8> Jordan_U: vim ~/mylivecd.seed is where I'm going to start making all modifications before I move that to ~/mylivecd/preseed