[12:51] anyone around with fridge submit power? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-fridge.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Topic for #ubuntu-fridge: Refrigerating in process! === Topic (#ubuntu-fridge): set by Seveas at Sun Nov 26 11:51:12 2006 === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === scot524 [n=user@24-151-115-127.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-fridge === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-fridge [10:30] nixternal: ! [10:30] yo [10:30] when you write a release announcement, do one for all the flavours, dammit [10:31] heh, I was given an order by the higher ups to do the one I did [10:38] nixternal: can you write the other 4? Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu and Ubuntu Server? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-fridge [11:08] robitaille: can you save the fridge from only announcing kubuntu? [11:11] Burgwork: what do you want done? [11:12] nixternal: a similar release announcement for Eduubntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server [11:12] without or without the graphic [11:12] is there a write up for Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu that is classy? I don't follow their development so I don't know what's hot and what's not [11:13] either you do it or I publicly shame you by doing it :) [11:13] hahaha [11:13] and I mention that evil Kubuntu people prevented the other announcements [11:13] you know, I would feel honored to be publicly shamed by you :) [11:13] heh [11:13] muhahaha [11:39] Burgwork: I approve the article that I sent :) It's not my fault the only one who wrote something did it for Kubuntu :) [11:40] s/I sent/I receive/ [11:40] I have to say the thought of having only a kubuntu article was bad...but the alternative was no article at all about the release on the Fridge which is worse [11:43] On some days I just feel like the Fridge is only a long painful and dying experiment that needs to come to an end with someone deciding to pull the plug... [11:45] we just need more people [11:46] We have dozen of editors! We need to pull the plug and do it differently....and with a new name and a different community around it. [11:46] hmm [11:47] the "suggest a story" idea is a good one [11:53] personally I always like the "slashdot" look...people submit stories and us editors approve the ones we like. And the comments are right there under these approved stories. But I don't think that was the "look" people wanted originally. But it makes it easy to build a community around these stories [11:53] I will agree there actually. the design/layout of /. is good, but /. sucks :) [11:54] Burgwork: KUBUNTU FTW! [11:54] nixternal: 2/3 of the downloads are ubuntu, 1/3 are kubuntu [11:55] that is about the same for the bug count as well [11:55] probably even more ;) [11:55] 1/3 kubuntu sounds a little much truthfully [11:55] almost all the large deployments I have heard about are Ubuntu [11:56] most KDE people tend to use multiple distros at once anyways [11:56] what about France? [11:56] they are all Kubuntu [11:56] KDE tends to be the older Linux crowd, from what I have seen [11:56] mandrake holdover [11:56] Interestingly the usage stats for users I have seen in the past for linux in general was the reverse 2/3 KDE, 1/3 Gnome....interesting mismatch [11:56] that is the largest Ubuntu/Kubuntu implementation yet in amount of hardware and money [11:57] robitaille: that is Linux in general though, Ubuntu has it for the GNOME crowd w/o a doubt [11:57] robitaille: all those numbers are suspect, due to being biased [11:57] nixternal: I seriously doubt if the french parliment is the largest U/Kubuntu deployment [11:57] nixternal: exactly. But could Ubuntu popularity have a long-term effect on KDE usage? [11:58] I am thinking that Ubuntu is probably pulling people away from Kubuntu [11:58] or KDE in general [11:58] GNOME is easier out of the box I think [11:59] KDE has so many options that it loses people === robitaille works in a KDE shop...25+ KDE computers.... 1 Gnome computer....mine :) [11:59] hehe [11:59] there are only a few KDE people I know in the Chicago land area [11:59] when I asked my company president why he choose GNOME, he said "All the large companies are putting their effort behind GNOME" [11:59] actually in Chicago, Xubuntu is probably the #1 favorite Linux distro [12:00] and that was pre Ximian/Novell [12:00] the sysadmin here likes KDE. Thus KDE by default and all users only use the default they are offered [12:01] I only use my GNOME desktop for testing my packages [12:01] office here uses GNOME because I use Ubuntu [12:01] and I just switched it back to Ubuntu. I was using Debian until I realized no matter how great and stable it is, it is old [12:02] I wish asterisk were in main [12:02] there are a couple of asterisk devs doing a talk on sunday at the lug [12:03] asterisk and subversion weekend at the lug [12:03] cool [12:03] tell them to merge the bloody ldap stuff into main [12:03] heh [12:03] actually mishehu is on IRC right now, he is one of the devs that is a member of the LGU [12:03] LUG [12:04] heh, I should do a Bazaar demo right after the SVN demo [12:04] but my problem is, I still prefer SVN over BZR [12:04] server applications that don't support ldap in this day and age... [12:05] hehe, right [12:06] what else did I run into that didn;t... [12:06] see, I started messing with GNOME during the Ximian days a little bit and actually realy liked it [12:07] except for that stupid monkey and their "ubuntu-like" color scheme smashed with a banana