[12:51] <nixternal> anyone around with fridge submit power?
[10:30] <Burgwork> nixternal: !
[10:30] <nixternal> yo
[10:30] <Burgwork> when you write a release announcement, do one for all the flavours, dammit
[10:31] <nixternal> heh, I was given an order by the higher ups to do the one I did
[10:38] <Burgwork> nixternal: can you write the other 4? Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu and Ubuntu Server?
[11:08] <Burgwork> robitaille: can you save the fridge from only announcing kubuntu?
[11:11] <nixternal> Burgwork: what do you want done?
[11:12] <Burgwork> nixternal: a similar release announcement for Eduubntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Server
[11:12] <Burgwork> without or without the graphic
[11:12] <nixternal> is there a write up for Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu that is classy? I don't follow their development so I don't know what's hot and what's not
[11:13] <Burgwork> either you do it or I publicly shame you by doing it :)
[11:13] <nixternal> hahaha
[11:13] <Burgwork> and I mention that evil Kubuntu people prevented the other announcements
[11:13] <nixternal> you know, I would feel honored to be publicly shamed by you :)
[11:13] <Burgwork> heh
[11:13] <nixternal> muhahaha
[11:39] <robitaille> Burgwork:  I approve the article that I sent :)   It's not my fault the only one who wrote something did it for Kubuntu :)
[11:40] <robitaille> s/I sent/I receive/
[11:40] <robitaille> I have to say the thought of having only a kubuntu article was bad...but the alternative was no article at all about the release on the Fridge which is worse
[11:43] <robitaille> On some days I just feel like the Fridge is only a long painful and dying experiment that needs to come to an end with someone deciding to pull the plug...
[11:45] <Burgwork> we just need more people
[11:46] <robitaille> We have dozen of editors!  We need to pull the plug and do it differently....and with a new name and a different community around it.
[11:46] <Burgwork> hmm
[11:47] <Burgwork> the "suggest a story" idea is a good one
[11:53] <robitaille> personally I always like the "slashdot" look...people submit stories and us editors approve the ones we like.  And the comments are right there under these approved stories.    But I don't think that was the "look" people wanted originally.  But it makes it easy to build a community around these stories
[11:53] <nixternal> I will agree there actually. the design/layout of /. is good, but /. sucks :)
[11:54] <nixternal> Burgwork: KUBUNTU FTW!
[11:54] <Burgwork> nixternal: 2/3 of the downloads are ubuntu, 1/3 are kubuntu
[11:55] <nixternal> that is about the same for the bug count as well
[11:55] <nixternal> probably even more ;)
[11:55] <nixternal> 1/3 kubuntu sounds a little much truthfully
[11:55] <Burgwork> almost all the large deployments I have heard about are Ubuntu
[11:56] <nixternal> most KDE people tend to use multiple distros at once anyways
[11:56] <nixternal> what about France?
[11:56] <nixternal> they are all Kubuntu
[11:56] <Burgwork> KDE tends to be the older Linux crowd, from what I have seen
[11:56] <Burgwork> mandrake holdover
[11:56] <robitaille> Interestingly the usage stats for users  I have seen in the past for linux in general was the reverse 2/3 KDE, 1/3 Gnome....interesting mismatch
[11:56] <nixternal> that is the largest Ubuntu/Kubuntu implementation yet in amount of hardware and money
[11:57] <nixternal> robitaille: that is Linux in general though, Ubuntu has it for the GNOME crowd w/o a doubt
[11:57] <Burgwork> robitaille: all those numbers are suspect, due to being biased
[11:57] <Burgwork> nixternal: I seriously doubt if the french parliment is the largest U/Kubuntu deployment
[11:57] <robitaille> nixternal:  exactly.  But could Ubuntu popularity have a long-term effect on KDE usage?
[11:58] <nixternal> I am thinking that Ubuntu is probably pulling people away from Kubuntu
[11:58] <nixternal> or KDE in general
[11:58] <nixternal> GNOME is easier out of the box I think
[11:59] <nixternal> KDE has so many options that it loses people
[11:59] <nixternal> hehe
[11:59] <nixternal> there are only a few KDE people I know in the Chicago land area
[11:59] <Burgwork> when I asked my company president why he choose GNOME, he said "All the large companies are putting their effort behind GNOME"
[11:59] <nixternal> actually in Chicago, Xubuntu is probably the #1 favorite Linux distro
[12:00] <Burgwork> and that was pre Ximian/Novell
[12:00] <robitaille> the sysadmin here likes KDE.  Thus KDE by default and all users only use the default they are offered
[12:01] <nixternal> I only use my GNOME desktop for testing my packages
[12:01] <Burgwork> office here uses GNOME because I use Ubuntu
[12:01] <nixternal> and I just switched it back to Ubuntu. I was using Debian until I realized no matter how great and stable it is, it is old
[12:02] <Burgwork> I wish asterisk were in main
[12:02] <nixternal> there are a couple of asterisk devs doing a talk on sunday at the lug
[12:03] <nixternal> asterisk and subversion weekend at the lug
[12:03] <Burgwork> cool
[12:03] <Burgwork> tell them to merge the bloody ldap stuff into main
[12:03] <nixternal> heh
[12:03] <nixternal> actually mishehu is on IRC right now, he is one of the devs that is a member of the LGU
[12:03] <nixternal> LUG
[12:04] <nixternal> heh, I should do a Bazaar demo right after the SVN demo
[12:04] <nixternal> but my problem is, I still prefer SVN over BZR
[12:04] <Burgwork> server applications that don't support ldap in this day and age...
[12:05] <nixternal> hehe, right
[12:06] <Burgwork> what else did I run into that didn;t...
[12:06] <nixternal> see, I started messing with GNOME during the Ximian days a little bit and actually realy liked it
[12:07] <nixternal> except for that stupid monkey and their "ubuntu-like" color scheme smashed with a banana