[12:29] yep [12:29] well minor word of warning. debian bug 373871 [12:29] Debian bug 373871 in unknown "IR Transmitting broke (ubuntu dapper pulling debian package)" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/373871 [12:30] i filed that with debian almost a year ago, when IR transmitting broke for all my serial transmitters [12:30] I have the pvr150 with transmitter, but living in South Africa, they don't have the codesets for my receiver [12:30] since then we (ubuntu), have done a cvs snapshot package - but the problem still exists [12:30] and i havent been able to nail it [12:31] that might be why I couldn't get it to work on edgy [12:31] so i only use mceusb2 transmitters now [12:31] its broken in debian etch too [12:31] I might need to get an mceusb transmitter [12:31] it doesnt effect everyone, some still report success [12:32] ok. [12:32] the mceusb2 transmitters are a bit picky though too [12:32] By the way, back to myth install [12:33] In mythtv-setup, what is the correct procedure to get your channels into the db? [12:33] scan for channels? [12:33] I'm using composit input [12:33] are you using a grabber for program listings? [12:34] there isn't a working one for SA again [12:34] so I use an xml file [12:34] with xmltv? [12:35] problem is if I just do a mythfilldatabse --manual, it doesn't have any info, so I have to try and remember the 127 channels [12:36] some guys have written a scraper to get the listings of our sat provider's webpage [12:36] and they put it into an xmltv format [12:36] k [12:36] savage.org.za [12:37] then use xmltv as the "grabber", point it at your xml file and it should fill using that. [12:37] scan for channels first, or you can "grab channels from source" if all of the channels in the xml file are valid channels for your receiver. [12:39] no xmltv option in grabber? I'm sure it used to be there === tgm4883 [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:42] hm. [12:43] arg [12:43] should I install the xmltv packages? [12:43] Rtax, xmltv does need to be installed afaik [12:45] I can stream HD content over firewire right? [12:45] if it is not encrypted, yes. [12:45] ah [12:46] (keeping in mind you need the power to then play the files) [12:46] what STB are you using? [12:46] I assume that the power that is needed is just to play HD and not any extra power becuase im using firewire [12:46] I have a motorola 6200 from comcast [12:47] right. to decode the stream only. streaming/recording takes minimal resources. [12:47] k [12:47] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire [12:47] yea i have a pcHDTV 5500 that gets the HD right now, but I just upgraded my cable and want to get the discovery HD and espn hd on the mythtv [12:47] "general firewire notes" tells you how to check to see if channels are encrypted. [12:48] (be usre to check channels that do not tune properly for BOTH 5C and CCI 0x02 flags) [12:49] espn HD i can say for SURE should not be CCI encoded [12:49] 5c, possibly. === Xenocide [n=xeno@rrcs-70-60-97-150.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:50] majoridiot, i got my nvidia card today, all my problems are gone and everything looks SO GOOD! === majoridiot takes that back. ESPNHD should not have any encryption at all. [12:50] the picture isn't all blurry and crap [12:50] YAY @ Xenocide [12:50] :) [12:51] it looks like real tv [12:51] nvidia for life. [12:51] yup yup [12:51] and xVmc works too [12:51] no cpu load difference but i guess ill leave it on incase i do HD [12:51] how much load did xvmc take off? [12:51] none [12:51] ah [12:51] uses 18% cpu regardless [12:51] you know, i never got it working either. [12:51] no no, it works [12:51] ummm, there doesn't seem to be a way in mythtv to set up xmltv to point to a file... [12:52] you can tell because the OSD turns grey [12:52] in fact, xvmc loaded MORE than without. lol [12:52] well are you doing SD? [12:52] Rtax: i'm looking... [12:52] i believe it doesn't make m uch of a difference with SD [12:52] only with old processors [12:52] (HD) [12:52] hm really [12:52] (new processors) [12:52] now if i want to upscale SD to an hdtv i should use xVmc right? [12:53] nah [12:53] ok, thanks, I installed xmltv, but ivtv wasn't installed, so I've done that and am rebooting [12:53] how well do the channel icons work? [12:53] IMO, they are ugly. [12:53] Rtax, ivtv drivers are installed by default on Feisty [12:54] i never bothered installing them on this latest install. [12:54] ive never tried them, was just wondering [12:54] wasn't on the in the package lsit [12:54] i swear feisty mythfrontend uses more cpu [12:54] Rtax, the kernel modules load though [12:54] by themselves [12:54] Rtax, if you need the ivtv-tune app though, ivtv-utils isnt installed by default [12:54] err, on the 6200, does anyone know if the active ports show 0 when no cables are hooked up? Or should i see active ports no matter what? [12:55] tgm4883, how are you seeing active ports, i can check for you, just installed one today [12:55] you should show one active [12:55] im running through to see if the channels are encrypted [12:55] (unless they changed firmware recently) [12:55] i don't have the firewire hooked up yet [12:56] no... i take that back [12:56] you should show 1394 ENABLED [12:56] ACTIVE only when plugged into the pc [12:56] im having the hardest time getting into that menu [12:57] i got in once [12:57] it's quick... power button then OK [12:57] must have been lucky [12:57] ah... try just HITTING the OK, not holding it [12:58] well.....im in something, but it's not the diag menu [12:58] white screen? [12:59] screen is blank, but the front of the box says d 01 [12:59] hm. that's the diagnostic screen. [12:59] and with the arrows i can go up to d 18, then a single e === majoridiot wonders why it's not displaying [12:59] is it connected to an HDTV? [01:00] yea, but its connected via rg6, let me hook up the component [01:00] yeah... try that. [01:00] the fp display is showing you are getting into diag menu [01:04] ahh much bette [01:04] r [01:04] rtax... i think i have a solution for xmltv [01:04] ok 1394 does say enabled [01:04] :) @ tgm4883 [01:05] then you are good to go to see what's available on fw [01:05] who is your cable provider? [01:05] ok so im looking for 5c implementation and === Daviey [n=Daviey@unaffiliated/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:06] is cci copy control? [01:06] yes [01:06] ok [01:06] i wasn't seeing cci anywhere [01:06] hope for 0x00 on all channels [01:07] cci is under menu item D6 [01:07] at the bottom left of the screen, likely [01:08] 0x00 would equal copy free? Cause that is what is under d11 [01:08] cool... they put it on that screen too [01:08] yes [01:08] 0x00 means you can stream that channel firewire [01:08] ok [01:09] so this just means that it is unencrypted over firewire even though it is encrypted over just the cable? [01:09] yes [01:10] I ask because i cant view it with just my atsc tuner [01:10] REALLY? [01:10] hm. [01:10] yea [01:10] but you pay for that channel, right? [01:10] yea [01:10] oh wait... yeah makes sense [01:11] the cable box demuxes and decrypts the stream... [01:11] then sends it out firewire [01:11] ticks me off that the discovery hd is encrypted, its in the middle of my broadcast channels [01:11] the atsc card would be getting an encrypted stream. === majoridiot doesn't get discovery HD [01:12] :( [01:12] gotta get your mythbusters in HD [01:12] well, it looks like someone needs to take a crack at the firewire guide and get it set up === majoridiot wished he could... [01:12] love that show. [01:13] best show on that chanel along with dirty jobs [01:13] yep [01:13] ive been getting into deadliest catch too [01:13] although the gf loves the planet earth thing [01:13] meant to watch those, never got around to it [01:14] cute fuzzy things right? [01:14] lol [01:14] unfortunatly i am going to need another ir receiver as my current one is going to go bye bye [01:14] no room for my pvr-150 with the firewire card [01:14] mine was DOA had to rma my whole pvr card [01:14] tgm4883: be SURE not to plug/unplug the firewire cable between the computer and STB with the computer power on [01:14] ah, good to know, cause i would have tried that [01:15] the guide says not to... just wanted to emphasize it [01:15] (it makes the node jump around) [01:15] what is a good ir receiver (I suppose either usb or serial). Hopefully something I can pick up in town [01:15] what kinda remote [01:16] take your pick, i have a vizio remote that came with my tv (has some universal functions), i have a remote that came with my motorola 6200, i have a urc-6131nw [01:16] http://www.irblaster.info/index.html [01:16] (cool shite) [01:16] i built one from an xbox dvd dongle but it only accepts rca remotes [01:17] that reminds me [01:17] i have an xbox dvd remote [01:17] Xenocide, your new card was DOA? [01:17] no no [01:17] new one works [01:17] does the network remote feature for mythtv work? [01:17] ah good :) [01:17] i got my nvidia card too, i am SOOOO happy [01:17] Xenocide, nice [01:17] doing some HD stuff yet? [01:17] cause i could use that too [01:17] or is that the next step [01:17] no hd service [01:17] ah ok [01:17] need an hd tuner first, t hats a few months away [01:18] ? though, with the pvr ir setup [01:18] can i have my volume up and down buttons mapped to output to my reciever? [01:18] with the pvr150 blaster ya, [01:18] any guide for that? [01:19] see the feisty lirc guide [01:19] k [01:19] explains how to setup the blaster [01:19] thanks for your help guys [01:20] i got to go to bed, 1.20am now [01:20] got mythtv working [01:20] thats huge! from starting to install feisty to finished with beryl and everything in about 4 hours [01:20] do i not also have to map that somehow from my remote to the new one in the lircd [01:21] Rtax: i have an xmltv solution [01:21] :D @ Rtax awesome! [01:23] i just need a standard firewire cable with a 6 pin connector on each side right, nothing special? [01:23] correct [01:23] ok [01:23] nicer quality preferred [01:23] nicer quality as in? [01:24] not the cheapest [01:24] should have good shielding, etc. [01:24] for testing, whatever you have laying around [01:24] so much for going to risky [01:24] i dont have any with two 6 pin heads [01:24] :( [01:24] :( [01:25] can ya get a cheap one locally? [01:25] get a cheap one to test with... if it's gonna work, gimme yer address and i'll mail you one. [01:25] i think so, there is a electrical store (they have all sorts of cool stuff) === majoridiot has loads [01:26] i'll grab a cheap one, would a 4 pin to 6 pin adapter work? cause i do have a 6 to 4 cable [01:27] the adapter should work as a temp solution, yes. [01:27] sweet back in about 20 minutes [01:27] LOL [01:27] drive safely [01:35] xuperm1: the box has already served up 120+ feistys since this morning :D [01:35] hehe superm1 that is [01:51] munch... biab === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:02] dang traffic [02:02] got me a good cable though === majoridiot is eating [02:03] but the active port on your box is likely the onle on the right- as viewed from the back [02:03] got me a monster ultimate premium elite firewire cable, on sale for 96.99 [02:04] egads [02:04] sorry, not elite [02:04] it says 1337 on the package [02:04] that means its good right [02:04] LOL [02:04] endorsed by linux torvalds [02:04] who is that? [02:04] a hack. [02:05] so is this a good cable? it has pure plutonium coated ends [02:05] too good, really. === majoridiot told you to get a cheap one to test with [02:05] sweet, only the best for my 21 in b/w [02:05] seriously... i would have send you a good one for nothing. [02:06] im kidding [02:06] the whole things a hoax [02:06] sometime i crack myself up [02:06] 6 feet for like 9 bucks [02:06] ya never know... a $100 monster fw cable is real [02:06] i know [02:06] that's good enough [02:07] i would never buy a 100 monster cable though [02:07] now to pull my firewire card === majoridiot nearly shat himself when he saw the $300+ HDMI HD cables [02:07] i love how they tell you how superior it is [02:08] even though digital is digital i always wondered how interference effected it [02:08] now there's a mythbusters episode === majoridiot can detect .01% signal degradation @ 16 feet [02:09] on hdmi? [02:09] kinda like "premium" vitamins? [02:09] on mars, baby. [02:09] LOL [02:10] suppose i should have checked my firewire card first [02:11] 4 pin? [02:11] LOL [02:11] no its 6 pin [02:11] whaz the prob? [02:11] that would of been funny though [02:11] nothing yet. [02:11] yes, it would have. [02:11] just should have checked for compatibility [02:11] it'll be fine. have faith. [02:11] i have to install it in the mythtv box first [02:12] what brand/chipset? [02:13] unless it's a reall oddball, you should be ok. [02:13] :shrugs: [02:13] lucent [02:13] fw323-04 [02:13] i bought a $16 aopen card that works like a champ. [02:13] lucent? you should be ok. [02:13] ive had this thing for years [02:13] even better [02:13] older is usually a great thing [02:14] hope so [02:17] dang it [02:17] i forgot to hook up the firewire cable [02:17] LOL [02:18] i knew it as soon as i powered on [02:18] that's how it usually happens === tgm4883_ [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:38] arg [02:38] accidently unplugged the cable modem [02:39] ;) [02:39] do we know which plug on the back of the 6200? [02:39] i used the left [02:39] hey look, i quit [02:39] likely the right hand one as viewed from the back === tgm4883_ is now known as tgm4883 [02:40] figures [02:40] i used the left [02:40] i TOLD you that... [02:40] hehe [02:40] when? [02:40] wait [02:40] up there ^^^ [02:40] after i asked the first time? [02:40] probably. [02:40] hehe [02:41] see, that would be when i unplugged the cable modem [02:41] and didnt see it === majoridiot is pretty sure it says that in the firewire guide too [02:45] :( this is going to take forever with the repos being so slow [02:45] use a mirror [02:45] good thing i got lots of time :) [02:45] oh yea [02:45] not much to install anyway [02:45] i forgot to set that up [02:46] if you are using feisty, about all you will need is libiec61883-dev and the scripts. [02:46] sweet [02:47] i just finished getting the libiec [02:47] one questions on the guide [02:49] i ran plug report and it came back with node 1 being active (looks similar to the guide) so does that mean that it is plugged into the correct port on the stb? Or do i need to go back into diag mode on it? [02:49] yer good to go [02:49] carry on... [02:49] right stb port? [02:50] apparently so [02:50] sweet, its great that all my electronics are starting to work correctly [02:50] (it is possible that both ports might be active) [02:51] :( i went into the stb diag just to check and it still says 1394 not active [02:51] because it is not streaming [02:51] hey majoridiot when i move back to raleigh for the summer and the tv channels are different do i just delete all channels in mythtv setup, and get them again from datadirect? do i need to do anything else with my database to update recording schedules and such? [02:52] then the guide confuses me [02:52] Xenocide: when you move, just delete that channel "source", set up a new one with your new datadirect data and fill the database [02:53] oh so it will automatically do everything else for me? [02:54] your recording schedules, etc. will need reset as well, as the channels will change [02:56] tgm4883: you show 0 active ports on screen D11? [02:56] yea [02:56] well [02:56] ? [02:56] it says active, then under that it says no [02:57] sec [02:58] nm [02:58] it should say 1394 I/O device INST / active ports 1 [02:58] page 3 says active ports 1 [02:58] my bad [02:58] page ? [02:58] hm [02:58] you must have different firmware. [02:59] yea on the diag there are 4 pages [02:59] just under d11 [02:59] hm. mine is like the 3rd entry on page 1 of D11 [02:59] diff firmware. [02:59] yep [02:59] you are good to go... if you got data on the plugreport, just keep going [03:00] first page on mine just gives me all the different ports [03:00] whether they are enabled [03:00] and whether they are active [03:00] whats the ethernet for ? [03:00] but not for 1394? odd. [03:00] afaik, the usb, ethernet and sata are all disabled. [03:01] in theory, for home networking. [03:01] yea it gives me 1394, but only tells me enabled and active, and for some reason not active on this screen but active on another [03:01] hmm [03:01] interesting because according to this, usb and ethernet are enabled [03:02] yes [03:02] they just don't do anything [03:03] ah [03:03] (i tried hacking into them before settling on firewire, 'lo these many months ago) [03:03] LOL [03:03] lol [03:06] i made a change to the guide re: firmware [03:12] lol i was freaking out [03:12] non of the firewire tests were passing [03:12] i was still in the diag menu [03:12] the box does need to be turned on [03:12] and tuned to a good channel [03:13] im on espn hd [03:13] and plugged into the cable feed coming from the wall [03:13] (it's the black snake-looking thing with the shiny end) [03:13] getting success on p2p 4 to 5 times out of 5 [03:13] thanks [03:13] could you send a picture [03:13] try broadcast [03:14] i recommend broadcast- it is the most stable for me [03:15] that seems to be successfull 100% after the first run [03:15] :) [03:15] sudo ./firewire_tester -b -P 0 -n 1 -r 5 (100% every time) [03:15] it will get finicky from time to time.. but the primer for it makes it 99% effective or better [03:15] :) [03:15] vg [03:15] you got a good stb, then. [03:16] sweet [03:26] hmm, is there a problem with having two different zap2it accounts? [03:26] probably [03:26] hmm [03:26] only one channel lineup per account [03:27] dunno if they limit # of accts per email address or not [03:27] i have 2 though [03:27] lineups that is [03:27] really? i've tried that a number of times... never works. [03:27] (same zipcode?_ [03:27] one digital cable, one analog cable [03:27] yea [03:27] oh [03:28] did you try doing the same type of cable? [03:28] cause thats failing for me [03:28] hm.yes [03:28] will only allow one line-up per provider, im my experience [03:28] question [03:29] ? [03:29] if i only have comcast digital setup in zap2it, how do i setup my hdtv 5500 so it only record the channels it can see? is that when i scan for channels with it? [03:29] i have never been able to reliably set that up [03:30] :( [03:30] i change the recording input manually [03:30]