[12:36] <pygi> this stuff even works :)
[12:36] <cbx33> eh?
[12:36] <cbx33> pygi, ?
[12:36] <pygi> feisty :P
[12:36] <pygi> hi cbx33 :)
[12:37] <cbx33> hey pygi
[12:37] <LaserJock> pygi: of course it does
[12:37] <LaserJock> ogra wouldn't let it be otherwise ;-)
[12:42] <ajmitch> pygi: you sound surprised
[12:43] <pygi> ajmitch: I'm joking :P
[01:15] <cbx33> LaserJock, do we have any docs anywhere for Edubutnu standalone installation?
[01:15] <LaserJock> other than the Handbook/ubuntu docs?
[01:16] <cbx33> do they discuss standalone install?
[01:16] <cbx33> if so
[01:16] <cbx33> can you give me a URL?
[01:16] <cbx33> for the book
[01:16] <LaserJock> well, for fiesty it's installed
[01:16] <LaserJock> I don't have a great URL to give you yet
[01:17] <LaserJock> but it's http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/workstation.html
[01:17] <LaserJock> but that's the "In Progress" version
[01:19] <cbx33> ok
[02:53] <gonzaloaf_work> why does while installing edubuntu server it freezes at 92% or 93% ??
[02:53] <gonzaloaf_work> there is not working the cd-rom nor the hard disk
[02:53] <Burgundavia> gonzaloaf_work: likely a bad burn
[02:53] <Burgundavia> or a bad download
[02:59] <gonzaloaf_work> if I install a edubuntu Desktop, how can I convert it to Server?
[03:01] <Burgundavia> what do you want to do with it?
[03:01] <Burgundavia> you want an ltsp server?
[03:05] <gonzaloaf_work> Burgundavia, yep
[03:07] <Burgundavia> simply install the ltsp-server
[03:08] <LaserJock> I think you need to install ltsp-server-standalone
[03:08] <Burgundavia> right
[03:10] <LaserJock> and then run the ltsp-create-client or something similar
[03:11] <Burgundavia> build-client
[03:11] <Burgundavia> what is the difference between server and server-standalone
[03:12] <LaserJock> I thought -standalone brought more in
[03:12] <LaserJock> looks like it just adds dhcpd
[03:12] <Burgundavia> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Open_Week_2 <-- if you see a mastercard commercial, see the hackergotchis
[03:13] <ajmitch> ah, the open week
[03:13] <ajmitch> rather short notice
[03:13] <ajmitch> yes, I see them
[03:13] <LaserJock> what abou them?
[03:14] <Burgundavia> hackergotchis, in a commericial add
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ad, rather
[03:15] <ajmitch> LaserJock: you'll be famous! (again)
[03:15] <LaserJock> heh
[03:15] <LaserJock> doubtful
[03:17] <ajmitch> oh you will be
[03:17] <ajmitch> I mean you're famous enough to be teaching packaging
[03:17] <LaserJock> well
[03:17] <Burgundavia> we are all famous
[03:17] <ajmitch> soon lots of people will know you
[03:17] <LaserJock> I don't really think that takes famous
[03:17] <LaserJock> just stupidity
[03:18] <LaserJock> ajmitch: you're just smart and fly under the radar ;-)
[03:18] <LaserJock> sure you could
[03:18] <ajmitch> no, I really couldn't
[03:18] <LaserJock> I just stumble through it
[03:18] <LaserJock> today I spent an hour showing a bunch of undergrads a poster of my research
[03:18] <ajmitch> you realise it'd be at 4AM NZST?
[03:18] <LaserJock> they probably didn't get much of it
[03:19] <LaserJock> yeah, it's getting almost early for me
[03:19] <ajmitch> you'd at least be somewhat awake
[03:19] <gonzaloaf_work> so whats the differencee between edubuntu Desktop and Server?
[03:20] <Burgundavia> server is for ltsp
[03:21] <gonzaloaf_work> just that?
[03:21] <gonzaloaf_work> just have the lstp-server pkg added?
[03:24] <LaserJock> well, the Server install also sets up LTSP, etc.
[03:25] <LaserJock> the Sever disk is the preffered installation method if you want to do an LTSP server
[03:25] <LaserJock> the Desktop CD is good as a LiveCD for demoing, rescue CD, etc.
[06:02] <Meshezabeel> tried upgrading from CD, but gave problems when running internet updates, such as: "Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10). - connect (111 Connection refused)" do I need to change all edgy to feisty in sources.list before I begin upgrade?
[07:34] <Meshezabeel> just upgraded to feisty, it deleted my beryl-manager for some reason
[07:44] <LaserJock> did you have beryl on Edgy?
[08:14] <Meshezabeel> LaserJock: yes, I had beryl on edgy
[08:14] <LaserJock> since beryl wasn't in the Ubuntu repos for edgy things like that can happen
[08:14] <Meshezabeel> beryl is still installed, emerald theme manager is still installed, but don't have beryl-manager, also my title bars have disappeared
[08:16] <Meshezabeel> LaserJock: why should happen, there are many programs not in Ubuntu repos, doesn't make sense why it would remove programs it has no control over
[08:16] <LaserJock> because it does
[08:16] <Meshezabeel> lol, ok
[08:16] <LaserJock> we put beryl into Feisty
[08:16] <Meshezabeel> oh really?
[08:17] <LaserJock> so Feisty's beryl took over your old Edgy ones
[08:17] <LaserJock> yes
[08:17] <Meshezabeel> ok
[08:17] <LaserJock> compiz and beryl are in Feisty
[08:17] <LaserJock> so you just hit a bump in the road going from non-official repo to official repo
[08:18] <Meshezabeel> ok, how do I get into the beryl-manager now, it does not show up in synaptic
[08:18] <Meshezabeel> is this why my title bars disappeared?
[08:18] <Meshezabeel> brb, have to go for 5 mins
[08:18] <LaserJock> I'm not sure to be honest
[08:35] <Meshezabeel> back
[08:35] <Meshezabeel> should beryl-manager be showing up in synaptic?
[08:37] <ajmitch> yes, assuming you have universe enabled
[12:19] <stormzoeker> how do I replace the Gnome desktop in edubuntu with the KDE desktop?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> install kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <gnomefreak> the packages will be in menu on kde session
[12:38] <stormzoeker> gnomefreak thanks
[12:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:13] <juliux> hehe gnomefreak explains somebody how to install kde;)
[01:14] <stormzoeker> (A) everyone has a prefered desktop ;) mine is KDE :$
[01:14] <stormzoeker> but everyone her loves Linux :D
[01:17] <gnomefreak> ofcourse i use 6 de's
[01:19] <stormzoeker> lol I even use windows sometimes :$ :$ :$
[01:20] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt go that far ;)
[01:20] <gnomefreak> i only use it if 3 of my pcs die
[01:20] <gnomefreak> but i do have it
[01:22] <stormzoeker> use it only if I want to play a game (once a month or so haha)
[03:41] <flubber> how do i use libmkp3lame.so for audacity
[03:42] <flubber> i mean libmp3lame.so
[03:42] <flubber> ican't find it on my computer anywhere
[04:56] <skwashd> did i miss it or does the feisty server installer lack an option for setting up RAID 1 ?
[08:51] <bettsp> Is there any way to get https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPFatClients working? I can resort to hackery if need be
[08:57] <ogra> the code at the bottom should rougthly explain what you need to do for the base
[08:57] <ogra> beyond that you need a way to mount /home from the server
[08:58] <bettsp> ogra: Will NFS work?
[08:58] <ogra> an a network auth mechanism (or you can copy the /etc/passwd|groups|shadow files from the server to the chroot every time they changed )
[08:58] <ogra> sure
[08:58] <ogra> but its not really safe :)
[08:58] <ogra> you will need to install nfs-common in the chroot and probably need additional dirs to be rw
[08:58] <bettsp> That's alright; this is a lab for the OSU Opensource Club, none of the machines are safe anyways :)
[08:59] <ogra> (for lockd etc)
[09:00] <bettsp> Is there anything better than NFS? I have no idea about networked filesystems
[09:00] <bettsp> (For this purpose, I mean)
[09:06] <bettsp> ogra: So on the clients, there's no difference in configuration between this and the thin-client setup
[09:07] <bettsp> Scratch that question, it was dumb
[09:10] <jarhed> cliebow_: hello
[09:13] <jarhed> can someone help me figure out why my ltsp client hangs after the password?
[09:14] <bettsp> jarhed: Check ssh keys on server?
[09:14] <jarhed> update them?
[09:14] <jarhed> it's a fresh install
[11:45] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! What is precisely the kernel package linux-image-server for? is it for any server or for some specific server? Should I use it on edubuntu? thank you