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Sannethe-erm: lsb_release -a12:15
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cablesHow do I get Amarok to automatically download podcasts? I set it to Download when Available, but they're still not downloading.12:15
the-ermthanks Sanne12:15
Sannethe-erm: yw :)12:15
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the-ermWell it says 7.04 is installed, but it crashed during the install ... man I'm scared to reboot.12:16
FranzmaximilianDaisuke_Ido,  remember the Adept problem ? apt-get solved everithing!  there was a broken installation of another package around which sent out the error message. Also it suggested to run again with autormove option to get rid of some unuseful stuff12:16
CViruswiglaf: it's not there here !12:16
CViruswiglaf: KDE 3.5.612:16
Doctor_Nickwhere can I find the kubuntu feisty DVD?12:16
whytheamI'm going to reboot to see if it worked12:16
CViruswiglaf: will you please address me with my nickname12:16
louieb39cdoctor...on their site12:16
Doctor_Nicktorrent.ubuntu.com seems to be down12:16
louieb39cIm using it now12:16
louieb39cmaybe I can sent it to you?12:16
Doctor_Nickthe torrent? sure12:17
louieb39cdoctor - respond to the pm?12:18
Doctor_Nickpm?12:18
louieb39cprivate message - I Imed you12:18
Doctor_NickI didnt get one? :/12:19
louieb39cIM me12:19
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Doctor_Nickdid you get that?12:19
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Cosmo_I installed fiesty and now I have no sound, anyone know how to fix it?12:20
louieb39cI did12:20
louieb39cdid you get mine?12:20
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Doctor_Nickno12:20
Doctor_Nickthat's weird :/12:20
louieb39cI only have x64  is that what you want?12:20
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Doctor_Nickno, i need x8612:21
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louieb39c:-/ don't think I have that one12:21
Doctor_Nickk12:21
Doctor_Nickill just wait for the server to come back up12:21
dettoaltrimentiCosmo_: you can download an audio player for the terminal, try to start the program, and see what kind of error messages you get12:22
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CViruswiglaf: the option disappears when you have compiz enabled ... I got it now after I disabled compiz12:23
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andrewkkwhat do people use to backup before installing feisty?12:23
CVirusandrewkk: because the updater sucks and it crashes12:23
intelikeybackup ?   what's that ?12:24
andrewkkCVirus: i mean what utility do people use12:24
CVirusandrewkk: oops ... dunno12:25
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en1gmahi all12:25
makuseruhi, i have 5 "not fully installed or removed" packages, how can i fix this12:25
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louieb39clol I just have separate /home and / partitions and have a script to mv files from /home/needbkp/ to my external on a weekly basis12:26
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intelikeyi just have redundant drives12:26
en1gmai have a Q. can i install kubuntu (cd) to a hd in thic computer and move that hd to another diff computer and it work ok?12:26
louieb39cthat would do it too12:26
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slyfoxPlease help. In firefox when I choose - File - Send Link, Evolution does not open, nothing happens. Evolution is set as the preffered application for email and I can send files form desktop fine, but firefox does not open evolution.12:26
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intelikeyen1gma yes.     BUT  if may take some tweeking on the other box.12:27
CVirusmakuseru: what happened ?12:27
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en1gmacrap12:27
sstchurI finally got my resolution issue fixes -- needed to utilize 915resolution, but now the TaskPanel is slightly running off the screen, what can I do about this? anything?12:27
en1gmai dont want to have to tweak :)12:27
intelikeyen1gma the fstab boot loader and xorg.conf in particular may need redone12:27
en1gmaahhh ok12:28
makuseruCVirus: i dunno, i was doing a dist-upgrade and some stuff didnt upgrade correctly, and i cant get them too12:28
en1gmaill just take my dvd rom out and put it in other computer when i goto install12:28
CVirusmakuseru: try sudo dpkg --configure -a12:28
en1gmaprob be better (for some reason i was thinking it would act like a live cd)12:28
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intelikeyen1gma sounds like a plan man12:28
en1gmathnx for the info12:29
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Doctor_Nickdammit12:29
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Doctor_Nickdoes anyone have the torrent for the kubuntu feisty i386 DVD?12:29
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en1gmadoes the kubuntu CD have any apps for ati tv tuner cards? the BTTV is the one i use12:30
en1gmaother computer is not connected to net12:30
wolferineis iTunes available for linux?12:30
louieb39clol12:31
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louieb39cyou probably can emulate it - but I wouldn't even try12:31
en1gmaAND also what does the kubuntu 7.04 install at12:31
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makuseruCVirus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16673/12:31
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wolferinelouieb39c, itunes?12:31
louieb39cwolferine - check out the wine project if you are interested - but I wouldn't be too optimistic about it12:32
hilltopwhy are the repos off limits for the livecd kubuntu?  Adapt manager can't access hardly anything like firefox or synaptic. Is it still brokken when installed?  Thanks.12:32
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Doctor_Nickalso12:32
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aroWhat's the KDE equivalent of gksudo?12:33
CVirusaro: kdesu12:33
mrignsaro kdesu12:33
cblack0kdesud12:33
en1gmato install kubuntu CD (7.04) anyone know how big a HD i need? i have a 3giger12:34
aroThank you12:34
cblack0en1gma, that will be enough12:34
ubuntuwhere can i find the standard kde control center in kubuntu?12:34
en1gmamaybe its 2giger12:34
mrignsubuntu: kcontrol12:34
en1gmai cant remember12:34
louieb39cwolferine: personally I like amarok - but some people call it a resource hog12:34
mrignshit alt+f212:34
cblack0ubuntu, kde start->system settings I think12:34
makuseruCVirus: any ideas?12:34
wolferineand itunes isnt?12:34
wolferine:)12:34
chijinlouieb39c: that's what resources are made for12:35
louieb39cHA well I never fell in love with itunes - Im somewhat anti-apple12:35
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louieb39ctis true - hence the reason I still use it12:35
CVirusmakuseru: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic12:35
wolferineanti apple?12:35
wolferineha12:35
wolferinenever heard that before12:35
cblack0lots of ubuntu docs talk about going to the "Update Manager" via System->Administration->... I don't have that on kde. I have installed synaptic but idunno if that is the same thing. Where/how do I get to the update manager that all the core ubuntu docs are mentioning?12:35
ubuntucblack0, mrigns: kcontrol kde control center doesn't seem to be the default control tool, because when I call "system settings" in the kde start menu then another tool starts12:35
louieb39cwell I feel they wouldn't be here if it wernt for OSS - but they don't really support it.12:35
CVirusmakuseru: so ?12:36
louieb39cI am a huge BSD fan and I think BSD is far superior than apple's interpretation of it12:36
makuseruCVirus: trying now, jsut a sec12:36
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mrignsubuntu: the system settings are the kubuntu one, kcontrol should start the kde one12:36
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hilltopI used sudo apt-get install synaptic, just get a lot of errors -- stuff like Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/laun ...12:37
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makuseruCVirus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16676/12:38
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ubuntumrigns: ok so they are really two different tools? i wonder why the don't use kcontrol because it seems to be ok12:38
Udi.12:38
mrignsubuntu: it annoys me too :(12:38
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intelikeyhilltop server down ?12:39
wolferineping it?12:39
phoxyI tried to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty using the network upgrade, but it seems to have corrupted something-- now ADEPT complains about being unable to commit12:39
CVirusmakuseru: try this sudo apt-get -f install12:39
wolferinephoxy, lots have been having similar issues12:39
cblack0phoxy, make sure you don't have more than one apt/deb tool open at once12:39
phoxyI don't12:40
ubuntuanother thing (i'm quite new to ubuntu): i want to install sun's java6 jdk... i can't find it in the "add programs", but when i start adept it's there... and then i can't install it because there're errors... how can i find out what the reason was?12:40
phoxyI thought I'd try upgrading before I try a fresh install, since I did a lot of tweaking I would hate to lose12:40
wolferineubuntu, its all in the guide I referred to earlier12:40
Doctor_Nickdoes anyone have the torrent for the kubuntu feisty i386 DVD?12:40
wolferineif you would have read through it, these basic questions would be answered12:40
cblack0ubuntu, I suggest you just do: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk12:41
os2macwill beryl work with Kubuntu?12:41
ubuntuwolferine: ok i'll read it... it was my first intuitive try12:41
wolferinethe document has it all12:41
cblack0ubuntu, I don't know about adept, but that is how I installed java from the cmdline12:41
cblack0os2mac, yep, I've seen it done on a coworkers box. I don't know much about it myself hto12:41
dsmithhow can someone change his root password without them knowing it?12:42
dsmithsudo chpasswd root?12:42
CVirusmakuseru: su ?12:42
makuseruCVirus: same error12:43
cblack0maybe sudo passwd root12:43
mrignsdsmith: u can use sudo su to get root12:43
cblack0but really, if they are also in sudoers they don't need the root pw anyway12:43
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sstchurwhat would cause my desktop to acutally "bleed" out beyond the monitor boundaries?  I can't access anything to the far right or left12:43
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dsmithI setup a remote box and hey changed the stupid password!12:43
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wolferinessickle, maybe try the buttons on the monitor?12:44
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sstchurwolferine: that was to me I'm guessing?12:44
phoxyis there anything like System Restore on WINDOWS, to allow me to return to the way things were before I "upgraded"?12:44
ubuntusudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk: arghhhhh   /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:44
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sstchurwolferine: I can adjust the hposition and vposition, but i can't acutally change the size of the picture w/ the monitor buttons12:44
wolferiner u sure12:45
wolferinemust be a really old monitor then12:45
wolferineand I mean 20 years12:45
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kikkoman#kubuntu, I've set up the IRCd, I can connect to it. I've allowed the ports through Firestarter, and yet when people connect, they get a "Connection timed out" error. What is causing this and how do I fix it?12:45
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sstchurwolferine: as best I can tell.... I just got the monitor today, it's a 22" samsung syncmaster -- I have a crappy videocard Intel 915, I had to install 915resolution just to get the resolution past 1280x102412:45
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wolferinepay good money for the 22?12:45
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wolferineshould have gone 19 and a nice Nvidia card :)12:46
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wolferineanyways, i am out12:46
wolferinelater all12:46
ubuntuwolferine: which guide did you mean exactly?12:46
louieb39chmn think I can find the source for ubotu? that would be an interesting read12:46
Sheazscheadept is retarded. It failed to install java and now I cannot open it to install anything. I have restarted my computer twice and when i try to open adept it says another process is using it. WTF12:46
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kikkoman>.>;12:46
arthur_kalmhey everyone, I've installed Ubuntu Feisty and I was wondering how I could install the latest Kubuntu12:46
wolferinegoogle it ubuntu12:46
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arthur_kalmcause the repos show that the KDE version is 3.4.3...12:46
arthur_kalmbut I want 3.5.6...12:47
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kikkoman Why is it when people connect to my server they get a Connection Timed out message, but when I connect through localhost it's fine?12:47
phoxyyes, I think ADEPT is badly flawed-- it gets corrupted easily12:47
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mrignslouieb39c: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:47
hilltopintelikey  > hilltop server down ?    Must be, can' tget anything.  But an hour ago I could from xubuntu livecd.12:47
louieb39cahh thanks mrigns12:47
Sheazscheanyon erspond to me?12:47
Sheazschei missed it12:47
Sheazschewell how can i fix it?12:47
Sheazscheswitch to gnome...?12:47
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MegiddoThe torrent site is down, can someone pass me a link/magnet to the Kubuntu fiesty 32-bit dvd torrent?12:47
Raytrayhttp://pastie.caboo.se/55461 Hrm, there appears to be something wrong with updating to Feisty, it stops at 99% and I cancel it.  I ran dpkg --configure -a and it gave me a konq-kim error.12:48
CVirusmakuseru: any progress ?12:48
neoncodeHey, I'm on feisty and I installed KVM, I know my CPU supports virtulisation but whenever I try to run it, it just core dumps and crashes.... any help?12:48
arthur_kalmSheazsche: have you attempted to install Java using anything else?12:48
Sheazscheno i havent12:48
arthur_kalmSheazsche: maybe try Automatix2 out?12:48
kikkoman;A; halp12:48
Sheazschef that12:48
Sheazscheit works fine withubuntu12:48
makuseruCVirus: i said sudo apt-get -f install gave me the same erro12:48
makuserur12:48
Sheazschekubuntu is flawed12:48
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arthur_kalmSheazsche: lol, well if your not going to put any effort into getting it working :P12:48
CVirusmakuseru: I'm googling ... are you trying anything else while I'm searching for the solution ?12:49
MegiddoThe torrent site is down, can someone pass me a link/magnet to the Kubuntu fiesty 32-bit dvd torrent?12:49
makuseruCVirus: yes12:49
arthur_kalmSheazsche: personally, what I always do is install Ubuntu, and then Kubuntu after12:49
makuseruim also googling12:49
Sheazschewell wtf, it completely corrupted adept12:49
Sheazschethats insane12:49
CVirusmakuseru: are you upgrading from edgy ?12:49
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makuserui did lastnight12:49
arthur_kalmSheazsche: that way I get the best of both worlds12:49
phoxykikoman-- which IRCd did you install?12:49
sumithello12:49
arthur_kalmSheazsche: btw, did you upgrade or fresh instal?12:49
phoxycan u dcc me?12:49
rubynhi there...12:49
rubynwhat flawed means?12:49
Sheazschefresh12:49
kikkomanPhoxy: It was UnrealIRCd 3.2.612:49
Sheazschewhat kind of problems are there when you upgrade from edgy?12:50
arthur_kalmSheazsche: hmm, well I haven't tried the latest Adept (going to install it in a bit)12:50
phoxyI also tried to install an IRCD (NGIRCD) but it never worked12:50
CVirusmakuseru: try this sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-generic_2.6.20.15.14_i386.deb12:50
hilltopSheazsche: I put KDE onto ubuntu 6.06. So I can log into GNOME or KDE. Works great.12:50
arthur_kalmSheazsche: there's always problem's when upgrading, donno why12:50
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Sheazscheif there is problems, why is it built into edgy12:50
kikkomanBut you see, when I use GNOME, it works; In KDE it fails.12:50
Sheazschethere is a notificaiton that asks for upgrading12:50
Sheazschei mean, thats insane12:50
Sheazschewho thought of that12:50
arthur_kalmSheazsche: actually there is, it's called adept_notify12:51
Sheazscheif its risky updating, why give someone a notification that its time to update12:51
arthur_kalmSheazsche: and it works fine12:51
Sheazschenot when dist upgrading12:51
Sheazschefrom edgy to fiesty12:51
Sheazschethat is buggy as heck12:51
SanneSheazsche: just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for everybody.12:51
crazy_penguinhello there12:51
crazy_penguinhow do i set up cupsd to add a printer. i can't pass the athentication part in the browser. i used lppasswd to  _bt12:51
Sheazscheyea but it doesnt work for a LOT of people12:51
arthur_kalmSheazsche: I don't believe there are any notifications that tell you to upgrade from one distro to another12:51
hilltopSheazsche: I found upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 on line worked very well I read there has been a kernel change since so better to reinstall.12:51
Sheazschethere is in ubuntu12:51
Sheazscheyou just click a button on the auto updater12:51
MegiddoAnyone have a mirror of the feisty torrents?12:52
SanneSheazsche: people put a lot of effort into providing a system for free, you should show a bit more gratitude.12:52
CVirusmakuseru: so ?12:52
crazy_penguinhow do i set up cupsd to add a printer. i can't pass the athentication part in the browser. i used lppasswd to  _bt12:52
Sheazscheand you have feisty from edgy, i personally think if someone wants to do that, they should be an expert in the matter and have to manually edit the repos12:52
crazy_penguin                            make new passwords but nevertheless i can't authenticate myself to the cupsd daemon. how can i fix this? how do i set up cupsd to add a printer. i can't pass the athentication part in the browser. i used lppasswd to  _bt12:52
makuseruCVirus: its still doing it12:52
crazy_penguin                            make new passwords but nevertheless i can't authenticate myself to the cupsd daemon. how can i fix this?12:52
arthur_kalmSheazsche: auto updated from Edgy to Feisty o-O12:52
crazy_penguinsorry12:52
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Sheazscheits not auto, but it asks you to push a single button12:52
Sheazscheand it shouldnt because its risky12:52
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: you have to run kdesu "update-manager -c" to get notifcation12:52
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rubynwhere i can change, in kde, the font of characters in the bar at the bottom of the screen?12:53
gnomefreakSheazsche: why would you say its risky?12:53
cablesI'm trying to get Amarok to automatically download podcasts for me. I've selected the option to download when available, but they still don't get downloaded.12:53
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: I have Feisty, I want to install the newest KDE, i.e. 3.5.6, but the repos are telling me that it's 3.4.3...12:53
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rikanferalHey. I'm trying to upgrade to feisty, but the upgrader keeps telling me I don't have enough space in /usr. However, I have about 4 times what it asks for free in /usr. Can anyone help with this?12:53
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: please check your repos12:53
Sheazschebecause upgrading from edgy to feisty IS wtf12:53
Sheazscheeveryone knwos that12:53
arthur_kalmSheazsche: hmm I though you had to use the update-manager...12:53
Sheazschethere are a ton of bugs doing that12:53
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: you dont have all feisty repos12:53
Sheazscheyou DO have to use update manager12:53
Sheazscheand its still risky12:53
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tiprincelu all12:53
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: I've checked them, their fine, I don't have the kubuntu repos and I can't seem to find them...12:54
gnomefreakSheazsche: its not any more risky than upgrading from 5.10>6.0612:54
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CVirusmakuseru: brb12:54
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list12:54
makuseruCVirus: alright, thanks for the help so far12:54
Sheazschebreezy to dapper was a mess, there were THOUSANDS of forums posts about it12:54
MegiddoAnyone have a mirror of the feisty torrents?12:54
arthur_kalmSheazsche: well anyways, about the problem with Adept, do you have any error messages?12:54
Sheazschenot working and things breaking12:54
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arthur_kalmgnomefreak: sec12:54
Sheazscheyes it tells me another process is using adept12:54
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Sheazscheyet process manager denies this12:54
gnomefreakSheazsche: for you. that doesnt mean its not safe. im willing to bet you have non official packages installed12:54
Sheazscheand i restarted my pc, so wtf12:54
Sheazscheno i dont...12:55
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Sheazschemy mom f'd her computer up because she clicked the "dist upgrade" button in ubuntu12:55
Sheazscheshe didnt install ANYTRHING beyond the base ubuntu12:55
Sheazscheand it wouldnt boot12:55
Sheazschethere are a ton of forum posts about it12:55
gnomefreakSheazsche: when was this?12:55
Sheazschedist upgrading isnt safe12:55
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Sheazschethis morning12:55
gnomefreakSheazsche: it is safe i did it on 3 pcs12:56
Sheazschegnomefreak, read the forums12:56
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Sheazscheppl have tons of issues doing it12:56
Sheazscheit breaks packages often12:56
gnomefreakSheazsche: the forums matter 0 to me.12:56
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SanneSheazsche: could you please calm down a bit? Maybe then people have a chance to actually help you with your problem.12:56
dsmithSheazsche: dont let users do upgrades12:56
MotorCityMadManhello people, i need help. where and how do install libmultisynkpart.la for Akregator to read news ?12:56
gnomefreakSheazsche: because a hand full of people have issues (im 100% sure they have atleast 1 package that is not from official repos)12:56
Sheazschedmsmith i cant control that, im arguing it was STUPIF for kubuntu developers to put that dist upgrade BUTTON in kubuntu when so many users have issues with it12:57
Sheazschei mean wtf12:57
CVirusmakuseru: so ?12:57
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arthur_kalmgnomefreak: pastebin isn't working o-O12:57
makuseruCVirus: still doing it12:57
gnomefreakSheazsche: stop with the wtf and all other forms of typing curse words12:57
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: try at gnomefreak.pastebin.ca12:57
Sheazschewell i am very angry12:58
dsmithevery buntu machine I gsetup12:58
makuseruSheazsche: dont come into the kubuntu room and yell at people for you being lazy, ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu = all the same, just a diff window manager12:58
dsmithI tell them not to upgrade it12:58
Sheazscheits not about me being lazy, and im not targetting kubuntu12:58
tiprincefuckkkkkkk12:58
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: thanks, here http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/45056412:58
sumitdoes kubuntu come with beryl installed like ubuntu?12:58
gnomefreakSheazsche: you are not here for support or to give support. you want to complain go to the forums and complain12:58
Sheazscheubuntu has the dist upgrade option too12:58
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LjL!language | tiprince12:58
ubotutiprince: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:58
gnomefreak!ohmy | tiprince12:58
tiprinceoh scuse12:58
Sheazschethere are hundreds of posts in the forum like mine12:58
MotorCityMadManhello people, i need help. where and how do install libmultisynkpart.la for Akregator to read news ?12:59
Sheazscheits a fact, dist upgrading isnt safe you should always do afresh install12:59
Sheazscheeveryone knows that12:59
bobleny!truecrypt12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:59
SanneSheazsche: what do you want to achieve with your complaining in here?12:59
arthur_kalmSheazsche: I'm angry as well that my video card stuff isn't working, you don't see me cursing..12:59
Sheazschei want someone to acknowlege the problem12:59
gnomefreakSheazsche: and im willing to bet none have the same packages as one another. so stop spamming things and either help people or ask for help12:59
louieb39chaha try "upgrading" form XP to vista...now THAT is bad12:59
Sheazschebecause its a KNOWN FACT12:59
dsmithI hosed my zd700 install once12:59
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arthur_kalmSheazsche: send an email to Mark about it :P12:59
makuseruha12:59
SanneSheazsche: when you have a problem that is a bug, report it. If you want help with a problem, ask and wait patiently.01:00
MotorCityMadManhello people, i need help. where and how do install libmultisynkpart.la for Akregator to read news ?01:00
sumitis beryl pre installed on kubuntu like ubuntu?01:00
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: it's the standard Feisty repo..01:00
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: not sure why it wouldn't have the latest kubuntu01:00
gnomefreakSheazsche: in 10 minutes your mute will expire please calm down between now and than01:00
delightWhen I use gdm with kubuntu i can only log out no other options like restart turn computer off etc. >>> is there another fix then using kdm ?01:01
MotorCityMadMan!libmultisynkpart.la01:01
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: what does lsb_release -a give you01:01
SanneMotorCityMadMan: I can't find a package that provides that file. You can try yourself at packages.ubuntu.com in section "search the contents of packages"01:01
edavis10MotorCityMadMan: kitchensync01:01
arthur_kalmarthur@zeus:~$ lsb_release -a01:02
arthur_kalmNo LSB modules are available.01:02
arthur_kalmDistributor ID: Ubuntu01:02
arthur_kalmDescription:    Ubuntu 7.0401:02
arthur_kalmRelease:        7.0401:02
arthur_kalmCodename:       feisty01:02
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: see above01:02
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: yeah i didnt mean paste it all01:02
gnomefreaksorry01:02
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: sorry :p01:02
SanneMotorCityMadMan: listen to edavis10, I used the wrong search field ;)01:02
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gnomefreakarthur_kalm: i really need to see you sources.list file01:02
arthur_kalmi gave it to u01:02
edavis10MotorCityMadMan: I just used the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ "Search the contents of packages"01:02
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/45056401:02
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: that's my sources.list01:03
gnomefreak4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2001:03
gnomefreak        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages01:03
Sanne!pastebin | arthur_kalm01:03
ubotuarthur_kalm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:03
pulaskihello01:03
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: thats the version and the repo01:03
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delightwhy is glassfish depending on jdk5 when it works fine also with jdk601:03
delight:-)01:03
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arthur_kalmgnomefreak: got yelled at for not using pastebin :S01:04
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arthur_kalmgnomefreak: is this a non-standard repo?01:04
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gnomefreakarthur_kalm: automatix? check with them they may have a differetn version. can you please pastebin apt-cache policy kdebase01:04
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Sannearthur_kalm: sorry... I wasn't yelling, just informing :)01:04
gnomefreakthe above command will tell me01:04
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arthur_kalmSanne: I know :P, but pastebin wasn't working, it was getting somekind of query errors...01:05
edavis10I just wanted to state I am _very_ impressed with the latest Kubuntu. (from a Debian user for the past 3 years)01:05
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: sec01:05
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Sannearthur_kalm: I see. I didn't mean to be rude :)01:05
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: lol, it says 3.5.601:05
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: also you have duplicate repos because of automatix you may want to fix that. and be very carefull what you install from there.01:05
louieb39cHA edavis - many in this room are not too happy so it seems01:05
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:06
louieb39clots of upgrade issues01:06
pulaskiI came earlier and got at tip about the java jre/firefox plugin.  Now I want to set up a Java IDE on my feisty fawn 7.10.  I read a good story about this very issue in the current Linux Gazzette here http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/newss/6380/1/01:06
arthur_kalmSanne: it's all good, it was actually ubotu :p, but no one was yelling, I just said that :P01:06
Sanne:)01:06
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: hint automatix has been known to really badly mess up people system and is dubbed unsafe and un supported by ubuntu01:06
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pulaskiI pulled out of adept a bunch of stuff that looked like packages I'll need as described in the linux gazette article  above.01:07
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arthur_kalmgnomefreak: i see, hehe they try to refute that themselves :P01:07
edavis10louieb39c: Is it from this 'dist-upgrade' issue?01:07
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: 99% of things you can get as a .deb from automatix you can get from universe adn multiverse repos01:07
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: I haven't actually installed anything from there yet, but I usually get it to install codecs and so forth01:07
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boblenyDoes anyone in here have truecrypt for linux? If so, could you tell me how to create a volume with out a password and a keyfile? When I use truecrypt -c I go through the prompts and then it promts me for "Enter keyfile path [finish] :". If I hit enter, it has a fatil error, other wise, it won't stop promptimg me for it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've looked through the man file over and over...01:08
pulaskiCan anyone offer a quick and dirty way to enable the lateest Java IDE on feist f?01:08
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: when they spend 4 days with one person helping them because they installed automatix and something from automatix upgraded libc6 than they will know.01:08
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: my understanding was that it's just an easier way to install stuff...01:08
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: do you suggest using EasyUbuntu instead?01:08
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: easier than apt-get install?01:08
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: true, and lol it upgraded libc6 o_O01:09
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: ouch01:09
gnomefreakall it does is enables ubuntu repos and has its own repo with crap in it01:09
gnomefreakthier repo is the one that has the bad packages in it01:09
arthur_kalm* removes automatix201:09
arthur_kalm:P01:09
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arthur_kalmgnome-freak: so evey though it shows that things like kdeutils are version 3.4.3, it's still going to install 3.5.6?01:10
pulaskiIs NetBeans a simple Java IDE, I ordinarily prever emacs.01:10
pulaski?01:10
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: it should upgrade everything01:11
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: cause I removed the automatix libs01:11
gnomefreak!info kdeutils01:11
ubotukdeutils: general purpose utilities from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 60 kB01:11
gnomefreakarthur_kalm: ^^^ thats the version it should upgrade to01:11
arthur_kalmwell01:11
pulaskithese packages I'm told to get contain NetBeans and I'd rather stick with emacs01:11
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gnomefreakarthur_kalm: i havent found a way to totally clean automatix from a system yet01:12
arthur_kalmok cool01:12
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gnomefreakok dinner time01:12
arthur_kalmgnomefreak: well I didn't install anything from it, well only the nvidia-glx-new drivers, which I removed anyways... well I still don't have nvidia stuff working :(01:12
arthur_kalmand yeah I got dinner too :P01:12
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MotorCityMadMansanne,edavis10| thank you for your help :-)01:13
MotorCityMadManall working now01:13
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SanneMotorCityMadMan: welcome :)01:14
louieb39cjust check the readmes and see if your card is compatible with the particular dirver arthur01:14
pulaskiIs there One package that will contain a complete java sdk and jre?01:14
edavis10arthur_kalm: what are you trying to do with nvidia?  I have it working with Twinview and might be able to help.01:14
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sstchurCan anyone recommend a video card for around $100 (give or take) that will likely work with X?  My onboard video card just isn't cutting it01:15
Daisuke_Idosstchur: any midrange nvidia01:16
dwidmannpulaski: just install sun-java6-jdk01:16
dwidmannit should include the JRE01:16
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: they'll likely all work without too much trouble?01:16
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Daisuke_Idosstchur: what's your interface?01:16
Daisuke_Idoagp, pci-e01:16
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: and you think that's a better better bet than ATI?01:16
apusanyone else find kubuntu extremely random and unstable01:16
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: pci-e01:16
Daisuke_Idosstchur: watch this01:16
edavis10sstchur: Yes, I have a 'nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] ' for under $100 and it works perfect.01:16
dwidmannsstchur: maybe something like a nvidia gforce 760001:16
Daisuke_Idonotice to everyone!01:16
Daisuke_Idowho would use ati over nvidia in linux?01:17
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dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: masochists01:17
Daisuke_Ido:)01:17
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: I have no idea... I'm not by any means an expert on video cards01:17
Daisuke_Idosstchur: it's cool :D01:17
edavis10Daisuke_Ido: The ATI Rage 8MB is not bad.... little old though  :)01:17
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Daisuke_Idosstchur: how's this grab ya?01:18
Daisuke_Idohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681413007501:18
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sumitgaim vs kopete for AIM only..?01:18
Daisuke_Idokopete integrates with kde, gaim has file transfer capability01:19
edavis10sstchur: Here is what I have, AGP though:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681413315101:19
Daisuke_Idotake your pick01:19
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: looking now... I was also considering BFG - 3DFuzion GeForce 7300 GS Graphics Card... any thoughts?01:19
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dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: looks like KDE4's Kopete will rectify that situation01:19
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Daisuke_Idoa solid card, but not a mega-performer01:19
Daisuke_Idodwidmann: very nice.  then i can leave gaim behind forever :D01:19
sumithmm...i heard kopete's IRC client is sort of buggy, is that true?01:20
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sstchurDaisuke_Ido: cosidering I have an onboard Intel 915 which steals ram from the system, I'd think just about anything I buy will be "fantastic"01:20
Daisuke_Idosstchur: i would imagine so01:20
dwidmannI ran into a nasty memory leak when I used Kopete+IRC01:20
sumithmm not good01:20
Daisuke_Idoand anything in the 7k series is going to work fine01:20
Daisuke_Idosumit: konversation, or some prefer kvirc01:20
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sumithow bout beryl, i know ubuntu allows you to activate beryl, does kubuntu allow the same thing?01:21
khaije1hey ya'll, after the automated 'live' dist-upgrade from edgy to fiesty my machine is complaining about fsck errors and hangs on boot. any ideas?01:21
Daisuke_Idosumit: yes it does01:21
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: where's that found at ?_?01:21
sumithehe yeah01:21
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Daisuke_Idodwidmann: install from repos :)01:22
Daisuke_IdoOH01:22
Daisuke_Idoare you talking about the desktop effects setting?01:22
Daisuke_Idoif so, then no, kubuntu has no equivalent yet01:22
dwidmann(*hint* I already did install from the repos, but that's besides the point)01:22
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Daisuke_Idodwidmann: stil beryl-manager in autostart :)01:22
louieb39cthink its possible to get opensuse's KDE setup on kubuntu?01:22
Daisuke_Idostick :)01:22
Daisuke_Idolouieb39c: like?01:22
Daisuke_Idothe new k menu?01:22
Daisuke_Ido!kickoff01:23
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233101:23
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louieb39cthanks.01:23
louieb39clove the suse look, hate novell01:23
louieb39chaha01:23
Daisuke_Idowell, back to unpacking01:23
Daisuke_Idobtw, edgy>feisty net upgrade worked great on the lappy01:23
sumiteh kickoff looks too much like vista/xp start menu01:23
ppplll/commands01:24
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boblenyHey, could someone tell me where I can get help with this truecrypt?01:25
louieb39cwell I REALLY like their gnome setup01:25
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louieb39cnot like I use menus anyway - its mostly terminal for me01:25
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sumitdoes anyone know if there is a GUI for xvncviewer's settings such as windows01:26
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Goldwingdamn... i really like feisty, it even runs like a charm on my old laptop (celeron 700mhz/384mb ram)01:27
CatSoupIf I want 30GB of free space on my Windows hard drive to be formatted and have a dual boot installed, how do I do that?01:27
bobleny?01:27
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sumitalso, how does one get beryl to function after intalling?01:27
LjLdidn't we have a Kubuntu specific upgrade page?01:27
LjL!upgrade01:27
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)01:27
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GoldwingCatsoup : first install windows, then install ubuntu01:28
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CatSoupOk, now what GW?01:28
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Goldwingwhen you insert the ubunu CD, you can resize the windows partition01:29
louieb39cubotu sent me a link that helped me null. is that a bug or a feature?01:29
CatSoupYeah, i'm trying to but I'm afraid of erasing my windows part accidentally.01:29
Goldwingresize it, and install ubuntu01:29
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louieb39cHAHAHHAHA (07:29:16 PM) ubotu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:29
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GoldwingCatSoup: ALLWAYS make a backup of your data01:30
CatSoupI can't backup 300GB :(01:30
Goldwingsjeez01:30
benkong2hey all01:30
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CatSoupThis is a storage drive that i'm installing onto.01:30
CatSoupthat has 30GB of free space on it, so i wanted to format the free space an install ubuntu.01:30
GoldwingCatSoup: So, what happens when your drive crashes? then you lose everything01:30
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benkong2what does debconf failed to initialize frontend mean: happens in the terminal window when I apply updates.01:31
CatSoupthat's a different subject.01:31
GoldwingCatSoup: well, it *should* work without a problem, but i can't and won't give any guarantees01:31
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CatSoupjust resizing it?01:32
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CatSoupi have a mean game of STALKER going.01:32
CatSoupdon't wanna lose that =P01:32
GoldwingCatSoup: is the 30gb unused space?? or unused partition size?01:32
sstchurDaisuke_Ido: Are all of those GeForce cards nvidia?  Many of them as I'm searching online don't actually say nvidia01:32
CatSoupunused space.01:32
Goldwingwell, if your data is important, then i wouldn't risk it01:33
CatSoupHmm. Could I use partition magic or something to take that 30GB and turn it into a seperate partition?01:33
GoldwingYES!01:33
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CatSoup:)01:33
CatSoupi think i'll try that.01:33
edavis10sstchur: GeForce is a Brand of Nvidia01:33
Goldwingstill, if possible, make a backup of your MOST important data01:33
CatSoupit's all video games and movies.01:33
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CatSoupnothing bittorrent can't fix.01:33
Goldwingoooohhh01:34
Goldwingsjeez01:34
CatSoupi guess i'll just save the saved games.01:34
Goldwingyea01:34
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Goldwingor save your profile01:34
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Goldwingmost of the saved games are in there01:34
CatSouptrue.01:34
arthur_kalmedavis10: I'm trying to get my 8800 GTS working01:34
CatSoupi think i'll go do that01:34
Goldwing:)01:34
CatSoupthanks a bunch goldwing01:34
bobleny?01:34
boblenyHey, could someone tell me where I can get help with this truecrypt?01:34
Goldwingy/w mate01:34
arthur_kalmedavis10: I used to have the wfb loading error when X started01:34
Aloneaok, just upgraded computer and so far noted that internet is wonky. I saw the new manager for internet and it could not connect, so I used the wlanasisstant and it worked fine, though I got kicked off within a few seconds.01:35
hyperspaceanyone know where the adept_manager log is?01:35
arthur_kalmI've fixed that but now it says that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko01:35
Aloneaalso can't get adept to load.01:35
edavis10arthur_kalm: is that file there?  Are you running that kernel version?01:35
Goldwingarthur_kalm:  nvidia.ko is a part of your videocard drivers01:35
arthur_kalmedavis10: but I do have nvidia-xgl-new installed...01:35
arthur_kalmedavis10: no there is no file like that...01:36
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arthur_kalmGoldwing: well I was thinking that too, but it wasn't included in nvidia-xgl-new... it's also not included in the NVIDIA driver from the nvidia website01:36
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mtm8How do I chroot into a loopback mount?01:36
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KosmonautAlonea: I guess that this could be your bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/7803701:37
arthur_kalmIf I do a locate on nvidia and grep for ko I get:01:37
arthur_kalm/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko01:37
arthur_kalm/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko01:37
Goldwinglemme check here01:37
mtm8Anyone know?01:38
g35hello does anyone know how to connect to a vnc server via xtightvncviewer when the vnc server is running on port 443? i try :443 but i get connection refused, and i know the server is up because i can telnet into it01:38
AloneaKosmonaut: dunno. I have to ndiswrapper my wifi card as it is. Has never worked out of the box01:38
Goldwingstrange, i don't have the nvidia.ko either, but i do have the nvidiafb.ko01:38
Goldwinglooks like the nvidia-glx drivers tried to link, but didn't instal01:39
Goldwingl01:39
edavis10arthur_kalm: I have the same .ko files as you but no nvidia.ko01:39
Aloneais there a way to turn off i think its called Network manager now? is that the thing that was in the system try?01:39
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louieb39cI can only find kickoff for x86 - with the x86 libs should I be able to install it on x64?01:39
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Aloneanm, on that last question.01:39
KosmonautAlonea: Not sure about *your* bug, nut is lookes like that there is a quit serius problem with k-networkmanager...I got 2 wifi cards and none if them are working with kWM since feisty01:39
KosmonautAlonea: sooy 4 my english i m german01:40
AloneaKosmonaut: I just told it not to start up automatically. I like the wlanassisstant thing. has always worked fine for me.01:40
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GoldwingKosmonaut : what chipset do they have"?01:40
Sannelouieb39c: generally you can use 32 bit apps on 64 bit systems. You may have to install some supporting 32 bit libraries, though, some of them are in the repositories.01:40
AloneaKosmonaut: its ok.01:40
arthur_kalmedavis10: and yours works? do you have an 8800 GTS though?01:40
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KosmonautGoldwing: an rtl8180 and a netgear wg511v2 ndiswrapped01:41
louieb39cI have 32 bit libs - know what the command would be to have it not check the ark?01:41
arthur_kalmGoldwing: any ideas? :P01:41
Goldwingndiswrapped.. eeeuww01:41
odinhalp - my konqueror file.. etc bar has vanished, so has my location toolbar01:41
edavis10arthur_kalm: Mine works but I have a "GeForce 6200".01:42
Sannelouieb39c: you mean to force the install? There is a way, lemme check (it's a bit hackish to do that, keep that in mind).01:42
AloneaGoldwing: we do what we gotta do. Have been ndiswrapping for a long time now.01:42
Goldwinglouieb39c: lemme check something, if i'm correct then you don't need to ndiswrap the netgear01:42
louieb39cHA I run linux - We all are hackers in a sense01:42
louieb39c....01:42
arthur_kalmedavis10: hmm01:42
louieb39cwrong person?01:42
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KosmonautGoldwing: my cards worked with dapper and edgy without problems01:42
louieb39cI am not setting up wireless01:42
louieb39cI am installing kickoff01:42
Goldwingoh.. ok01:43
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Sannelouieb39c: heh. I mean, remember you did that, because you won't have a clean system anymore.01:43
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Goldwingstill why ndiswrap a wifi when you don'[t need to01:43
boblenyBurn them ALL!!01:43
edavis10arthur_kalm: what was the exact error X is giving you?01:43
boblenyBurn them, burn them ALL!01:43
KosmonautGoldwing: I use the opensource driver 4 my rtl818001:43
louieb39c....kickoff...the suse KDE interpretation01:43
arthur_kalmedavis10: I'm not sure b/c for some reason it wasn't saved in /var/log/X.log.0 :S01:43
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boblenyHey, could someone tell me where I can get help with this truecrypt?01:44
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arthur_kalmedavis10: I can try to start again and write it out if that'll help?01:44
Aloneanow to pray video card driver goes on well. I thought they were going to put the fglrx and other stuff for the video cards in fiesty?01:44
louieb39chaha oops mixed up some people01:45
louieb39cthat's why I was confused01:45
edavis10arthur_kalm: sure, just the first error part.  I think it has an "EE"01:45
KosmonautAlonea: what kind of ATI card do you have?01:45
arthur_kalmedavis10: yep, brb01:45
Sannelouieb39c: to install a deb file with wrong architecture, the parameter to dpkg is --force-architecture. So I guess you can install it with: dpkg -i --force-architecture name_of_deb.deb      Check yourself with "man dpkg"01:45
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AloneaKosmonaut: Xpress 200. I use Envy to put them on since I have botched it twice before.01:45
louieb39cthank you very much sanne01:46
kamex_Envy rocks01:46
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Aloneaenvy is our friend!01:46
Sannelouieb39c: yw :) (I hope it doesn't break anything...)01:46
louieb39cHA well if so, Im sure I can uninstall01:46
Sannelouieb39c: be brave ;)01:46
louieb39cha that's not the right term is it? uninstall01:46
louieb39cremove?01:47
kamexhehe01:47
KosmonautAlonea: Well then good luck :-D01:47
AloneaKosmonaut: no errors so far.01:47
GoldwingKosmonaut: the netgear uses a R8180 chipset, and will work without ndiswrapper01:47
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: No, I really don't use beryl all that often ... only things I really, really liked were expose and zoom anyway ...01:47
hyperspaceok the last line of /var/log/dist-upgrade reads: ERROR giving up on fetching after maximum retries (adept was @97% when i left office, had been for about half an hour)01:47
Aloneabrb. gotta restart01:48
KosmonautGoldwing: Yes sure! I *am* using the OS driver 4 my rtl8180-card but KNM refuses to work with it01:48
hyperspacesorry that was /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log01:48
Goldwinghmm.. weard01:48
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hyperspaceanyone have  a recommendation01:49
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KosmonautGoldwing: what made me mad, was that KNM was working perfecty with dapper/edgy...but since the upgrade nomore cooperation, it seemms like it is a common bug.01:50
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hyperspacelast entry in log is timestamped around an hour ago01:50
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nosrednaekimshees,,,, the fiesty mirrors are SLOW!01:50
hyperspacecan i kill adept?01:50
hyperspaceand restart from gui over ssh here?01:51
GoldwingKosmonaut: to be honest, this is my first time using ubuntu (i use fedora normally)01:51
hyperspacei mean restart dist-upgrade from console after killing adept01:51
Goldwingso i can't say anything about older versions01:51
arthur_kalmedavis10: OK01:51
KosmonautGoldwing: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/78037 . There are so many dublicated bugreports there  :-S01:51
KosmonautGoldwing: NP :-D01:51
arthur_kalmedavis10: it says: FATAL: Could not open <nvidia.ko location>: No such file or diretory01:52
KosmonautGoldwing: do you like it?01:52
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arthur_kalmedavis10: NVIDIA(0): Fialed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!01:52
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GoldwingKosmonaut: yea, its the fist linux version that worked out of the box on this laptop01:52
Alonea*pats Envy on the head* Good envy.01:52
Aloneaok, I forgot where the wifidrivers that come with the kernel are put. I need to remove the bcm43xx wifi driver01:53
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Goldwingand i even made it look more like windows (i have to show this to clients)01:53
KosmonautGoldwing: Cool  8-)01:53
louieb39cgoldwing - how?01:53
nosrednaekimAlonea: just blacklist it01:53
Daisuke_IdoGoldwing: screenshot?01:53
edavis10arthur_kalm: was <nvidia location> the /lib/kernel ..... file from earlier?01:54
Goldwingmy RT2500-based card does not work out of the box. <--- HAH lets test this, i have a PCMCIA rt2500 card01:54
arthur_kalmedavis10: yes01:54
Aloneanosrednaekim: where do I do that?01:54
GoldwingDaisuke_Ido:  one min01:54
louieb39cI have tried to figure that one out for ever - I can only find Russian and Portuguese distros that look like windows01:54
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Daisuke_Idoah!  good evening nosrednaekim01:54
Goldwingshould i disconnect, i just inserted the rt2500 card01:55
louieb39cGoldwing - how did you make it "more like windows"?01:55
Goldwingthe card works here01:55
edavis10arthur_kalm: My Xorg is trying to load from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so01:55
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Goldwinglouieb39c: removed the top-bar, moved everything to the bottom bar, added some programs01:55
Daisuke_Idotop bar?  gnome?01:56
Goldwinghold on, lemme make a screenshot01:56
arthur_kalmedavis10: how do you check that?01:56
louieb39cahh...lol in a kubuntu irc01:56
arthur_kalmedavis10: perhaps I should make a soft link but call it nvidia.ko?01:56
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edavis10arthur_kalm: in my Xorg logfile.  Do you have that file from my log?01:56
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razWhat's a good Music file tagger/organizer? Preferably KDE01:57
AloneaOh! Is the shutdown problems fixed in fiesty? The ones in relation to fglrx and ati video cards?01:57
edavis10arthur_kalm: I see no references to nvidia.ko in my logfile at all.01:57
arthur_kalmedavis10: neither do I, I don't see any reference to anything nvidia in my log either01:58
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arthur_kalmerdavis10: i mean lowercase nvidia that is01:58
Daisuke_Idoraz: just tagger or do you want massive media library capabilities?01:58
Daisuke_Idobecause amarok is awesome01:58
arthur_kalmedavis10: what the log says is: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)01:58
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: amarok FTW :)01:59
razI want a program that'll retag and move these retagged files to a new folder and intelligently organize them01:59
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arthur_kalmraz: I use kid3 for that01:59
nosrednaekimumm you need the nvidia-glx package01:59
arthur_kalmraz: you can also try the gnome tagger...01:59
KosmonautGoldwing: your card works with KNM?01:59
arthur_kalmnosreadnaekim: I have nvidia-glx-new installed01:59
Aloneawhat file do I blacklist modules in?01:59
razill try kid301:59
arthur_kalmii  nvidia-glx-new                             1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-15.2001:59
edavis10arthur_kalm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16699/ <- my logfile01:59
razDoes this prog analyze and tag files?02:00
arthur_kalmraz: it's very nice, just drag and drop files in and it'll take in the who directory02:00
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razCan it scan directories?02:00
razMy music is very disorganized02:00
GoldwingKosmonaut: screenshot showing my rt2500 card working http://www.net-care.nl/ubuntu.png02:00
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edavis10ii  nvidia-glx-new                             1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-15.2002:01
Ashex!nvidia > me02:01
edavis10arthur_kalm: Do you have `nvidia-kernel-common` installed also?02:01
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KosmonautGoldwing: Not Found02:01
KosmonautThe requested URL /ubuntu.png was not found on this server02:01
arthur_kalmraz: no, the Ubuntu tagger does though02:01
Ashexis there a restricted drivers applet in kubuntu?02:01
arthur_kalmedavis10: yes02:01
Goldwinghmm02:01
Goldwinglemme check02:01
snikkeri can't see the window buttons (close, maximize, iconify) with beryl...02:02
razIs it Gnome, arthur?02:02
razI'm running KDE02:02
arthur_kalmedavis10: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16700/02:02
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arthur_kalmraz: yes it's a GNOME app, let me see what it's called02:02
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arthur_kalmeasytag02:03
arthur_kalmis what it's called02:03
GoldwingKosmonaut: should work now02:03
arthur_kalmraz: I believe, that's the name02:04
ubuntu_how do you access another arddrive ina aother computer on ur network?02:04
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arthur_kalmubuntu_: that depends on the network :P02:04
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arthur_kalm!easytag | raz02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easytag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
KosmonautGoldwing: Well...it workes 4 u then. But it doesn t work here :$02:05
KosmonautGoldwing: i mean the Nmanager02:05
arthur_kalmraz: it actually automatically searches ur entire home directory for all ur music and then lets you tag it02:05
ubuntu_ <arthur_kalm>umm im not sure wat network im installing this for a friend but let me ask02:05
Daisuke_Idoeasytag?02:05
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arthur_kalmubuntu_: well if this is on a microsoft network you need Samba02:06
ubuntu_ <arthur_kalm>what is samba?02:06
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: it's an music tagging software02:06
arthur_kalm!samba | ubuntu_02:06
ubotuubuntu_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:06
Arwensamba is a music tagging software??02:07
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ubuntu_ <arthur_kalm>oh ok02:07
arthur_kalmArwen: lol, look at who I direct the comments to :P, easytag is a tagging software, samba is above :P02:07
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edavis10arthur_kalm: Did you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" ?02:07
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KosmonautGoldwing: I guess I have to write a bug report to the Devs of networkmanager then :-)02:07
arthur_kalmubuntu_: I've never used it myself, but I'm sure that the wikis are good, it's used all the time02:07
GoldwingKosmonaut: i;m now starting networkmanager02:08
Goldwinghold on02:08
AloneaArwen: you the one that hangs out in windows too?02:08
arthur_kalmedavis10: no... but I did enable the nvidia driver by putting nvidia instead of nv...02:08
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arthur_kalmedavis10: lemmi try now02:08
ArwenAlonea, I'm sure there's more than one person that hangs out of windows... even if that's not very safe02:08
AloneaArwen: ^__^ ##windows. the channel.02:09
GoldwingKosmonaut: hmm.. won;t even start here02:09
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arthur_kalmedavis10: yeah that's all it changes... hmm02:09
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Goldwingmark@ubuntu-laptop:~$ sudo NetworkManager02:09
Goldwingmark@ubuntu-laptop:~$02:09
Goldwingand that's it, nothing happens02:09
Aloneawell, I am going to test out the shutdown and see if it actually works now02:10
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edavis10arthur_kalm: is 'nvidia' showing up in your running modules?  (command: lsmod)02:10
teem0I'm trying to install kubuntu on a ps3 and I can't seem to change the screen resolution from "Monitor & Display" in system settings. Is they something i can type in terminal/konsole to change the screen resolution. I'm using the release build 7.04 (Downloaded Yesterday).02:10
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GabzGoldwing: shouldn't you be useing knetworkmanager ?02:10
arthur_kalmedavis10: no, I can't load X when I attempt to start with the nvidia module... it crashes with that error from before...02:10
KosmonautGoldwing: I m confused now. You said your wifi works and no it doesn t02:10
Arwenteem0, adjust /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:10
arthur_kalmedavis10: I'm going to try the softlink idea...02:10
GoldwingKosmonaut: the wifi works,02:11
KosmonautGabz: Gwing is on ubuntu02:11
Ashexewwww, 1024x768 res is killing me :/02:11
tmbg_wheeee. upgrading to fiesty02:11
Goldwingmy mistake, i tried to start something that was allready running02:11
guga!beryl02:11
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:11
KosmonautGoldwing: didn t you say that Nmanger doesn t start?02:11
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arthur_kalmedavis10: brb going to try it out.02:12
GoldwingKosmonaut: yea i said that, but that's because it was allready running in my task-bar02:12
edavis10arthur_kalm: good luck02:12
Goldwing(you can see that on the screenshot)02:12
KosmonautGoldwing: hehe ok now i got it02:12
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Goldwingbe back in a bit..02:13
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teem0Arwen, I'm new to this so do i type that in the terminal or modify the file (note i'm running the livecd)02:13
Arwenteem0, modify the file02:14
teem0Ok, I'll give it a shot thanks.02:14
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arthur_kalmedavis10: w0000000t02:14
arthur_kalmedavis10: success02:14
arthur_kalmedavis10: how do you do an action?02:15
edavis10arthur_kalm: Great, what was the actual link you made?02:15
arthur_kalmedavis10: in IRC that is02:15
arthur_kalmerr02:15
arthur_kalm*does happy dance02:15
arthur_kalmthere02:15
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louieb39cWOW I don't know about you guys but I am getting computer jobs (Im 16) left and right from people that ask ME about linux instead of the other way around - MS, you better work on your PR02:16
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arthur_kalmedavis10: all I did was I linked /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko to /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko02:16
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arthur_kalmlouieb39c: great to hear :D02:16
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Skrotffsarthur_kalm: nvidiafb.ko and nvidia.ko are two different kernel modules02:16
Skrotffsnvidiafb controls the framebuffer, while nvidia controls the accelerated graphics and 2d02:17
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arthur_kalmSkrotffs: well for some reason nvidia-glx-new didn't come with nvidia.ko and neither did the the driver that came from the nvidia site02:17
SkrotffsThats weird..02:18
arthur_kalmSkrotffs:02:18
arthur_kalmarthur@zeus:~/tmp/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1$ find -iname *nvidia*02:18
arthur_kalm./nvidia-installer02:18
Kosmonautin deed02:18
edavis10arthur_kalm: It's wierd that mine works fine but I don't have a nvidia.ko there02:18
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arthur_kalmSkrotffs: yes it is... but now it works.. I'm not sure if I have acceleration yet, I'll give that a go in a second02:18
arthur_kalmedavis10: I don't know, I guess cause it's a different card...02:18
Skrotffsarthur_kalm: Just fire up glxgears02:18
SkrotffsIt should crash/not work..02:19
SkrotffsAtleast if it tries to use nvidiafb.ko02:19
arthur_kalmSkrotffs: works amazingly02:19
Skrotffswtf :o02:19
Skrotffslsmod | grep nvidia02:19
edavis101200 fps in GLXgears02:19
arthur_kalmSkrotffs: 114116 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22823.126 FPS02:19
arthur_kalm;)02:19
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Ashex!video > me02:19
Skrotffs23k FPS?! :D02:19
Arwen!vudei02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vudei - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
arthur_kalmSkrotffs: yeah it's there nvidia is there02:19
ArwenSkrotffs, hehe02:19
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Skrotffsokay02:20
SkrotffsWhat sort of card do you have?02:20
arthur_kalmSkrotffs: haha I have an 8800 GTS ;)02:20
Skrotffsahh02:20
Arwenarthur_kalm, what card is that? o.O 8800GTX OC?02:20
arthur_kalm640 MB02:20
arthur_kalmArwen: lol only GTS :(02:20
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Daisuke_Ido28746 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5749.149 FPS02:20
arthur_kalmsorry guys I game a lot ;)02:20
edavis10arthur_kalm: your video card has more RAM than my entire laptop.....02:20
arthur_kalmI play Supreme Commander o_O02:20
arthur_kalmedavis10: hahaha :D02:20
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Arwen:-)02:20
SkrotffsI bet you dual-boot ;)02:21
arthur_kalmedavis10: Supreme Commander is a very demanding game02:21
Arwen4798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 959.574 FPS - :-(02:21
arthur_kalmSkrotffs: yes, but my Windows is essentially empty except for games02:21
arthur_kalmArwen: lol :P02:21
edavis10arthur_kalm: Frozen Bubble is enough for me.02:21
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ArwenATI Radeon X300SE...02:21
arthur_kalmedavis10: lol02:21
Arwensucks no matter how you look at it02:21
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arthur_kalmbtw, does anyone know how to enable the compiz that ubuntu comes with?02:21
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Skrotffs18955 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3790.983 FPS02:22
Skrotffsyay02:22
Skrotffsnvidia geforce 4200ti or something02:22
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Sannefunny (Dapper here). locate nvidia.ko gives no result, 'modinfo nvidia' however gives me as filename: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-k8/volatile/nvidia.ko  although there is no such file. Must be some wizardry at work...02:22
Arwenarthur_kalm, prefs -> desktop effects02:22
arthur_kalmArwen: if it runs compiz stuff then ur set :P02:22
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arthur_kalmArwen: where would this be in KDE?02:22
Arwenarthur_kalm, hehe, everything but blur :-)02:22
Alethesis there any hope if I've managed to get broken packages when trying to update to feisty?02:22
Arwenarthur_kalm, oh... hmm... kde...02:22
Arwenno ide02:22
Arwenidea*02:22
Daisuke_Idoit's not preinstalled in kde02:23
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arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: well it's installed, dpkg -l tells me so...02:23
arthur_kalmDiasuke_Ido, I guess just run it...02:23
arthur_kalmhmm that didn't work :P02:24
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Arwenarthur_kalm, err... yeah, try "compiz --replace --force-nvidia"02:24
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Arwendunno, I'm using beryl parameters so shoot me02:24
en1gmahi all02:24
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arthur_kalmArwen: yay :)02:24
arthur_kalmArwen: it works :)02:24
Arwenarthur_kalm, eh? it worked?02:25
en1gmai just installed kubuntu on another system (from the cd installer) and i set both root password and user password) in the installer and i can su (it asks for pass for root) and the one i entered when i installed isnt working02:25
en1gmakubuntu 7.0402:25
arthur_kalmArwen: yeah... hmm02:25
Arwenarthur_kalm, hehe, problems?02:25
arthur_kalmArwen: well, it doesn't have beryl-manager :P02:25
ArwenLOL02:25
Arwengo install beryl then :-)02:25
dsmithheh02:26
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Arwenberyl > compiz02:26
arthur_kalmArwen: guess it's back to Beryl.. but Beryl has been so unstable lately :(02:26
en1gmacan someone help me out here02:26
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en1gmai need to get root to install some apps02:26
arthur_kalmArwen: yeah well their getting back together02:26
Arwenarthur_kalm, I dunno about that, I just wonder when the official repositories are gonna get fixed..02:26
Daisuke_Idoen1gma: no you don't.02:26
arthur_kalmedavis10: thank you so much for your help :)02:26
en1gmai enetered a root and user pass when i installed kubuntu and the su one isnt letting me be root02:26
Daisuke_Idooi02:26
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arthur_kalmArwen: yeah it's a real pain, and I have no idea how thier progressing...02:27
arthur_kalm*they're02:27
dsmithberyl doing good for me02:27
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Daisuke_Idothere's a reason ubuntu doesn't install with a root account02:27
Arwenuh huh, they need to update their libwnck.... that's driving me nuts02:27
Daisuke_Idoyou use sudo02:27
Alethesanybody know how I might downgrade packages with apt-get?02:27
arthur_kalmArwin: it's been a while and I haven't heard how the merge is going...02:27
en1gmawhen i type "su" it asks me for pass (and the one i entered at install time isnt working)02:27
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Daisuke_Idoen1gma: try using "sudo" and your user pass02:27
Alethesen1gma: sudo02:27
Alethesor sudo -s if you need a root shell02:27
Arwenen1gma, try "sudo -s" and then your password02:27
en1gmawhen i start adept it asks me for pass02:27
en1gmai want to enter iot02:28
Alethesuse your own02:28
Arwen!rootsudo | en1gma02:28
ubotuen1gma: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:28
Daisuke_Idoenter YOUR pass02:28
en1gmawhen i start k3b it asks me for pass02:28
Daisuke_Ido...the heck?02:28
en1gmai dont want to run it from console02:28
en1gmai want to enter it when an app asks for it02:28
Arwen...speaking of support nightmares...02:28
Arwenen1gma, THEN ENTER YOUR OWN PASSWORD, LISTEN!02:28
en1gmai did enter it at install time02:28
dsmithlol02:28
en1gmawhen kubuntu installer asked me02:28
en1gmathe user password works fine02:29
en1gmathe root password is not working02:29
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Daisuke_Idothere is no root account02:29
Daisuke_Idoare you following"?02:29
Arwenen1gma, use your USER password to get ROOT - it's VERY SIMPLE02:29
dsmithListen to arwen02:29
dsmithArwen, 'cuse me02:29
en1gmawhat was the root password i entered in the kubuntu installer then02:30
en1gmaif its not for root02:30
Kosmonauten1gma: you first uder is root02:30
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Arwenwe don't know and we don't care...02:30
Daisuke_Idoen1gma: you didn't enter a root password, the installer never asks for a root password02:30
Kosmonauten1gma: user i ment02:30
en1gmai gave it 2 passwords02:30
dsmitharwen: haah02:30
Daisuke_IdoKosmonaut: false information.02:30
en1gma2 different passwords02:30
Daisuke_Idoen1gma: then YOU screwed right the **** up.02:31
en1gmait accepted it02:31
en1gmaand installed02:31
dsmiththe first one is a backdoor to your 'buntu box, so we can hack all your warez..02:31
dsmith:P02:31
Daisuke_Idonow i need a cigarette worse than anyone can imagine02:31
KosmonautDaisuke_Ido: :$02:31
Arwendsmith, linux warez? omg...02:31
dsmithhahah02:31
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en1gmai just want to know why the one i entered for the master acct be it root or admin isnt working....the one for the user acct is02:31
Goldwingdsmith: shhhhhtttt!!!! don't tell him untill i'm done donwloading the Matrix trilogy from him02:32
arthur_kalmoh man, compiz still has so many bugs that Beryl fixed so long ago :(02:32
dsmithok man....shhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:32
Goldwingherhehehehe02:32
dsmith..its on the downlow..02:32
Daisuke_IdoKosmonaut: not completely wrong, but the first user is aded to the admin group and can use sudo02:32
Arwenarthur_kalm, and beryl has burning windows :-)02:32
Daisuke_Idoit's not a full root account as such02:32
arthur_kalmArwen: hehe true, but I use the gliding effect :P02:32
Arwenarthur_kalm, lol, I just use the fade effect02:33
Daisuke_Idoi actually dropped beryl02:33
Arwenwhich glide do you use?02:33
zerothismy notebook will not recover from sleep, nor will it hybernate02:33
en1gmawhich user is the one i entered that first password for02:33
dsmith...the electric glide02:33
Daisuke_Idoit's a nice demo to show people the eye candy02:33
en1gmaim logged in with the "user" acct fine02:33
arthur_kalmArwen: electric glide o_O02:33
arthur_kalmArwen: didn't know that existed02:33
Arwenarthur_kalm, lol02:33
en1gmathe 1st password what acct is that one02:33
Daisuke_Idoen1gma: username "user"?02:33
Goldwingzerothis: i have that problem too, especially when i'm completely pissed drunk02:33
Arwenarthur_kalm, glide 1 or glide 2?02:33
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en1gmauser = my name02:33
Sanneen1gma: please read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:33
arthur_kalmDaosile_Ido: I don't know, I use it all the time and I find myself unproductive without it02:33
Daisuke_Idono, no, i can't do this.02:33
en1gmai understand that i have to create a root passwrd02:34
acetoxyIs there some kind of firewall installed by default in Kubuntu?02:34
arthur_kalmArwen: I use one for creating and the other for closing so it glides in and then out02:34
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: it all depends on how much "bling" you use02:34
stdin!firewall | acetoxy02:34
ubotuacetoxy: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:34
Arwenarthur_kalm, hehe, I used to do that, but it wasn't smooth enough on X300 :-(02:34
en1gmawhat i want to know is why the installer is asking for the root/admin 1st password if we dont use it02:34
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acetoxystdin: Thanks02:34
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Daisuke_Idodid you install from the live cd?02:34
en1gmayes02:35
acetoxyI'm having some problems. When I listen to a port, let's say 1234, it takes up to 10 seconds to connect to that port from another computer02:35
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: almost all of it :P, scale is very useful, I use the plane plugin, or whatever it's called now02:35
Daisuke_Idoit doesn't ask for a root password02:35
acetoxyI have no idea why02:35
arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido: groups, etc02:35
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en1gmai gave it 2 passwords 1 for a root/admin and one for the user acct02:35
Daisuke_Idoand i KNOW it doesn't ask for a root password, because i've installed it on two machines today02:35
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Arwenquick survey - ati, nvidia, or intel?02:35
dsmithNvidia02:35
arthur_kalmArwen: lol? the ATi card is better02:35
Daisuke_Idoare you even using ubuntu?02:35
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louieb39clol02:35
en1gmathat what is the "first" password for02:35
arthur_kalmArwen: btw how do you do that action thing?02:35
Arwenarthur_kalm, no, Intel would be faster02:35
Arwenarthur_kalm, that action thing?02:36
Daisuke_Idoarthur_kalm: /me02:36
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arthur_kalmDaisuke_Ido, thank you :)02:36
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arthur_kalm:'(02:36
louieb39cVIOLENCE!02:36
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Arwenactually, the X3000 series chips that Intel's building into the 965 are pretty good02:37
Daisuke_Idoi know violence isn't the answer, i got it wrong on purpose02:37
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arthur_kalmArwen: ah02:37
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Arwenshader 4, gl 2.1, dx 9/10, 667MHz, 384M shared02:37
Kosmonauten1gma: you have created  user Nr1  that has sometime root rights when you do something with "sudo". The second user you have created is just user. Only user 1 can install things.Take  a look at ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:37
arthur_kalmhmm does anyone know if AIGLX still gets the black window bug on nVidia cards?02:37
Arwenarthur_kalm, yes02:37
arthur_kalmor maybe I should go to $gnome-effects02:37
arthur_kalm*#02:37
Hasta-La-Vistadid for me last night02:37
Arwenyou have an 8800 don't you? that shouldn't be a problem....02:37
louieb39cI have to admit - irc is more fun than real life. is it bad that only the top part of my body is tan...from my CRT?02:38
arthur_kalmArwen: it does o_O02:38
Hasta-La-Vistalol louie02:38
Goldwinglouieb39c:  ROFL02:38
arthur_kalmArwen: actually that's a lie, it's still a problem even on the 8800 GTS02:38
ArwenHAHA02:38
Arwennot a problem on Intel :-)02:38
arthur_kalmArwen: it's most likely a Beryl bug02:38
Criusdoes anyone know why my sound isnt as loud on kubuntu as it is on windows?02:38
arthur_kalmArwen: really? that's sad, well back to XGL it is :P02:38
Arwenarthur_kalm, the black window? no, it's an issue with out-of-mem in the drivers02:38
louieb39cthe truth isn't THAT funny :(02:38
arthur_kalmArwen: how can it possibly run out of 640 mb? o_O02:39
Goldwinglouieb39c: i have the perfect solution, get a laptop, and use IRC on the beach02:39
Arwenarthur_kalm, 16x AA at 1920x1080? :-)02:39
Arwenwith water + advanced motion blur?02:39
Kosmonauten1gma: so far so (un)clear02:39
Kosmonaut?02:39
zerothisCrius: Actually, I have the opposite problem. Winows is hardly audable, linux sounds blast too loud even at the lowset setting02:40
arthur_kalmArwen: lol, OK perhaps, well not advanced blur.. but OK02:40
arthur_kalmArwen: I see ur point :P02:40
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louieb39cmaybe I should get one of those solar powered, crank 100 dollar laptops for the poor of Africa. Or better yet - buy and bulk and sell here!02:40
arthur_kalmhas anyone run XGL with Blender before though?02:40
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en1gmai have an ati tv card that uses the bttv module....i want to use kdetv...the computer i just installed kubutu to has no net....i have a usb stick on this computer...where can i dload that packages02:40
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arthur_kalmI tried that and it crashed pretty badly02:40
Criusstrange..02:40
Goldwinglouieb39c: yea good idea, they have linux pre-installed02:40
Arwenarthur_kalm, I wouldn't use XGL if you paid me to :-)02:41
zblachhey all02:41
Hasta-La-Vistalouieb39c: did you read aboutr M$ and the $3 office package?02:41
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louieb39clol lol lol - no I havnt02:41
arthur_kalmArwen: really? what do you use with ur ATi card? o_O02:41
louieb39clink?02:41
Hasta-La-Vistaone sec02:41
zblachquick question. it's not strictly ubuntu related, but i need some advice.02:41
mharrallhas any ony had any had any luck installing nvidia drivers for te go 440 on 7.04 kubuntu02:41
Arwenarthur_kalm, aiglx......02:41
arthur_kalmArwen: and I'm not really sure why people hate XGL so much, I think it's the most stable one...02:41
en1gmais kdetv or bttv on the kubuntu install cd (7.04)?02:41
Arwenyou couldn't pay me to use fglrx either02:41
louieb39cyou couldn't pay me to use Vista02:41
zblachi got vista for free, and i'm not using it02:42
arthur_kalmArwen: ahh, ur not using the ATi drivers02:42
arthur_kalmI see02:42
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Hasta-La-Vistalouieb39c: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=487702:42
Goldwinglouieb39c: hmm... i'm using vista, the DELL version of vista on a non-dell computer02:42
louieb39cI played with the betas in a VM just so I can help my customers and get a true opinion on it..02:42
louieb39cthanks02:42
zblachat any rate, i've some AVIs to shrink. any ideas?02:42
Arwenarthur_kalm, xgl has all kinds of dpi issues :-\02:42
Grahamen1gma: I don't think they are, but I'm sure you can download the packages from the ubuntu site and install them. I'm assuming you have a way of getting files onto the computer even though it directly doesn't have TV.02:42
Arwenzblach, don't do it, they'll look shitty02:42
zblachArwen: i know02:42
Arwenhmm? then try mencoder or transcode02:43
en1gmaGraham thanks02:43
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en1gmachecking now02:43
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zerothisi'd agree to use vista for the right amount of cash if there was some fine print that only required me to do so once02:43
zblachi need to squeeze 200 mb total out of 26 files02:43
louieb39cits amazing how much money I am making off of MSs mistake. is it worse than MS bob?! may just be02:43
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arthur_kalmArwen: oh it does, hmm well I can try AIGLX again, but the last time I ran off the nVidia car when I would start getting black windows it would lock my system up. The I started to have that problem with XGL :(02:43
zblachstupid 4.7G = 4.4G02:43
Grahamen1gma: Here, make sure you have all those dependancies. http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kdetv02:44
Goldwingzerothis: i have to use vista, clients are using it and i have to know everything about it02:44
Arwenzblach, um, gzip? sounds stupid, but with avi overhead, you can get a few M per file02:44
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louieb39chaha Im scared to read the article for I may miss the excitement of the room!02:44
en1gmait just wants to let me dload the iso02:44
en1gmawhere are packages at02:44
zblachi was considering it, but there's a chance windows users'll come across this CD02:44
Goldwingzerothis: and get this, i have a official license of vista, but i'm using a warezed version02:44
GrahamWhat do you mean?02:44
GrahamWhat ISO?02:44
en1gmaand is bttv built in the 7.04 kernel?02:44
zblachperhaps I could trim out the first 30 seconds or so?02:44
louieb39cI give k/ubuntu CDs away for holloween02:44
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Arwenzblach, huh, try kino then02:45
en1gmait wants to let me dlaod kubuntu/ububntu isos02:45
zblachlouieb39c: i give away kubuntu CDS for christmas02:45
zblachkino?02:45
louieb39cwow I didn't think of that one02:45
GrahamThe kdetv packages are at the bottom of the page, select your system type i386 or AMD 6402:45
Arwenzblach, I suggest backing up to a hard drive?02:45
Hasta-La-Vistalouieb39c: #microcrap02:45
Arwen!kino02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
Iguanasalve a tutti02:45
Arwen....02:45
Arwenzblach, kino is a video editor, have fun02:45
zblachthey're on an external drive, but i'm not trusting that to others02:45
zblachok. thanks02:45
louieb39cwow a tutti.02:45
zerothisGoldwing: Right now I tell clients I consult on linux for 15/hr but windows is 60/hr and I probably can't help any with windows.02:46
intelikey<louieb39c> I give k/ubuntu CDs away for holloween <<< now that's a dirty trick....       :)02:46
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Grahamen1gma: Are you using i386?02:46
en1gmayea02:46
louieb39cthe best part was - I put my card in the case and got LOTS of customers02:46
the_hammeris the new kubuntu suppose to be kde4?02:46
Grahamintelikey: That's awefully nice of you.02:46
en1gmai dont see the page your talking bout02:46
Grahamen1gma: Download this: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdetv/kdetv_0.8.9-1_i386.deb02:46
mharralli have Nvidia go 440 and kubuntu 7.04 any tips since i can not change init to 3 to install the nvidia drivers02:46
Goldwingzerothis:  then you are cheap, i charge 120/hr for linux and 150/hr for windows02:46
en1gmathanks02:46
GrahamThe .deb file, it's the debian package.02:46
GrahamNot a problem my good sir.02:47
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Arwenthe_hammer, no, but there will be a plan to incorporate kde4 when it's available02:47
the_hammerbecause i see it in the synaptic?02:47
arthur_kalmhmm well that's enough hacking for today :P02:47
intelikeyGraham it's part of my plot to over throw ubuntu02:47
arthur_kalmoff to play supcom02:47
the_hammerseems to be installing ok02:47
Arwenthe_hammer, those are actually placeholders02:47
arthur_kalmthanks for all the help everyone :)02:47
zerothisGoldwing: well, i don't know that much, plus its just a hobby, not my job02:47
GrahamGnome is a bit shit like yeah.02:47
Arwenthe_hammer, they aren't actually kde402:47
the_hammerok02:47
Grahammharrall: Install it through the package manager, much eaiser.02:48
zerothischarging is bassically a way to get people off my back02:48
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mharrallwhile in kde02:48
Arwenthe_hammer, or, they are KDE4, but they're incomplete - KDE4 is not yet released02:48
the_hammerok02:48
Grahammharrall: Yeah, through Adept.02:48
Arwenthe ones there are a development snapshot that *doesn't work*02:48
the_hammerim getting rid of them02:48
Grahamintelikey: You might be interested in the site I'm hoping to setup.02:48
mharrallhum ok02:48
Goldwingzerothis: it's my job, and i've have most of the MCS*'s and a couple of SCO and HP-UX diplomas02:48
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zblachArwen: thanks. I'll give kino a shot.02:49
pingvenoI'm having a tad bit of a problem upgrading. The installation stopped at the cvs package. Now whenever I try to install cvs it freezes my computer.02:49
louieb39cif I have kubuntu installed and I throw in another HDD...can I setup software raid or must I reformat?02:49
zerothisI ussually buy a ligit copy of all my microsoft product but end up using a warez copy to avoid all the propriatary crap02:49
Arwenzblach, out of curiosity, what are you backing up? :-)02:49
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intelikeyGraham idk  but if you are starting a procrastanation club i'll get back to you later on that...02:49
pingvenoI get odd errors on the virtual console, so I think it might be a filesystem problem.02:49
Grahamintelikey: I looked that up on Wikipedia the otherday... and I've forgotten what it is.02:49
Goldwingzerothis: same here, i don't want M$ to see what i'm using, so i do buy the stuff, but use the same versions i buy warezed02:50
Goldwingthat way i'm still legal02:50
intelikeyputting things off,   dragging your feet.02:50
apusmy left speaking randomly stops working, its not a hardware issue02:50
zblachArwen: Arrested Development - Season 102:50
ArwenLOL02:50
louieb39cif its not oss I don't use it02:50
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NDP-LinuxHey all, I just upgraded from Edgy to Fiesty and I'm trying to find Beyrl in Synaptic and I can't. Can someone give me some help?02:50
Arwenlouieb39c, must be a small small world you live in... proprietary is a fact of life02:50
louieb39cI used to be a gamer and now IM not anymore. hence the reason I want to get a ps3 and throw gentoo on it02:50
Grahammharrall: Install nvidia-glx through Adept or run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and you'll be sorted.02:50
ArwenNDP-Linux, it's in universe02:51
louieb39cits bad enough I have to use proprietary nvidia drivers02:51
Daisuke_IdoNDP-Linux: beryl, in universe02:51
Goldwinglouieb39c: well the way vista is now, it should be oss02:51
Arwenlouieb39c, you don't *have* to, you could use nv02:51
Gabzlouieb39c: gentoo PS3 .... you ask for pain don't you02:51
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Grahamintelikey: Basicly it was going to be a website promoting Linux, sort of a newsbies guide to Linux and why they should use it.02:51
intelikeyi wonder why invidia driver wont work for me...02:51
louieb39cI found some binaries for gentoo ported just for the ps302:51
louieb39cnot that hard02:51
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Arwenbinary + gentoo = fail02:52
louieb39cand I a really do like getting my hands dirty in linux02:52
Grahamintelikey: Maybe you need the legacy driver. I use it because my cards so FECKING OLD!02:52
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Arwengentoo is supposed to be from source...02:52
teem0anyone here installed kubuntu on ps3 ?02:52
intelikeyGraham hmmmm not a bad idea.   (site)02:52
Arwenteem0, nope, the PS3 is a flop :-)02:52
louieb39cyea but its ported since every single ps3 is the same02:52
intelikeyGraham yes it is legacy02:52
intelikeyGraham but wont work02:52
GrahamThen nvidia-glx-legacy02:52
louieb39cthe thing that bugs me is the fact it runs on a hypervisor02:52
GrahamWhat won't work?02:52
louieb39cotherwise I would get one02:52
teem0yeah I cant get the ported one to install,02:52
zerothiswell, i don't want to boot my computer in a hurry to do something and suddenly XP discovers my hard drive was changed 6 monthes ago and says I must actvate my copy of XP to continue02:52
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intelikeyGraham the nvidia driver.02:53
DaveTheAveCan someone please help me with a sound card issue? It worked with 6.10 but not in Festy.02:53
jttintelikey, apt-get upgrade  performs zero work, have there really been zero updates since the release?02:53
GrahamWhat like... it doesn't start?02:53
NDP-LinuxArwen: In edgy universe? I'm not seeing a feisty universe in the repositories.02:53
DaveTheAveNothing can be heard02:53
louieb39clol muted?02:53
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DaveTheAveNope02:53
apusDaveTheAve: do you have onbaord sound and a sound card?02:53
Goldwingzerothis: magic words, "corp keys"02:53
Grahamintelikey: Also we were gona have a Linux shop, some merch and stuff, I need money.02:53
intelikeyjtt apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade     nothing new until you update the database02:53
DaveTheAveLaptop... Toshiba Sat. A13502:53
BeauJesteI have a problem with getting X to run after boot02:53
DaveTheAveIntel soundcard... internal02:54
GrahamKnow where I can buy large ammounts of tux dolls?02:54
Goldwingtux dolls????02:54
intelikeyGraham china02:54
jttintelikey, did both still not work from upgrade let me try again02:54
louieb39cdo I have to reformat if I want to add software raid?02:54
apusBeauJeste: At wait point during Xbooting does it fail02:54
teem0when  using the kboot and the livecd version of 7.04 can i type something (instead of just pressing enter) to make it start the installer instead of loading the live session02:54
intelikeyjtt then i guess not02:54
Goldwingyou mean those fluffy pinguins?02:54
BeauJestewhen i boot X does not start and i end up at the command line02:54
Grahamintelikey: Seriously.02:54
intelikeyyeah02:55
apusDaveTheAve: please type my name when answering so I can see it in chat, open up the kmix and see if the correct card name is listed02:55
GrahamMy brother had a bunch of tux dolls sort of rubbery foam and had IBM printed on the front.02:55
DaveTheAveapus h/o02:55
louieb39cgrahamL lol02:55
BeauJesteif i then do startx I get "API MISMATCH the nvidia kernel module has ver 1.0-7184 but the X mod has ver 1.0-975502:55
GrahamYeah but he uses Windows the traitor...02:55
zerothisso is it possible i can get sleep and hybernate to work?02:55
DaveTheAveaups I beleave it reads HDA Intel02:55
intelikeynerf penguins for every body02:55
jttintelikey, when update has several entries  Get 1 another Get 2  etc. what do those mean02:56
apusDaveTheAve: Those are my only thought, nothing obviously wrong sorry02:56
BeauJesteand then if i manually install the NVIDIA drivers i can do a startx do bring up the display manager02:56
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BeauJestewhich works until my next reboot02:56
intelikeyjtt one for each repo in your sources.list02:56
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DaveTheAveaups but i can't even turn up the volume or anything.... the volume control woun't go past 10%02:57
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intelikeyjtt 14 in mine02:57
apusBeauJeste: It sounds like you need to edit your xorg file, I don't know enough to comfortably tell you how02:57
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Jack3i just tried to burn the kubuntu disc and it is 694MB and nero says my cd has 654MB space?02:57
Grahamintelikey: How awesome would it be to have nerf penguins.02:57
jttintelikey, does that mean 14 updates can be downloaded02:57
BeauJestesounds to me like i need to install the right nvidia drivers from apt02:58
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louieb39cnot just any penguins - just tux!02:58
GrahamShoot people with penguins like WHAT THE <PG>?02:58
BeauJesteapus, sounds to me like i need to install the right nvidia drivers from apt02:58
apusBeauJeste: It sounds like you are, but xorg isn't using the right one when you boot02:58
louieb39cmaybe we should start a donation site like for tux500!02:58
intelikeyjtt no.   that means there are 14 databases to load into your full list database02:58
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apusBeauJeste: you could always try removing and installing them02:58
apus!nvidia02:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:58
jttintelikey, ah, ok i see thanks02:58
Grahamintelikey: You can help out if you want :)02:58
intelikeyjtt np02:59
BeauJesteapus, i am installing them using the NVIDIA download and doing a sudo sh ./NVIDIA02:59
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apusBeauJeste: did you have a problem with the normal download method?02:59
BeauJesteapus, how would i uninstall them02:59
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Pollywog!x11vnc > pollywog02:59
zerothisi thought feisty included NVIDIA and ATI propriatary drivers02:59
DaveTheAveCan someone please help me with a no-sound issue?02:59
BeauJesteapus, no, i upgraded from edgy with the same problem03:00
louieb39cI (stupidly) payed for madriva, it came with cedega - think its possible I can take the rpm from the disk and get it to run in ubuntu?03:00
BeauJesteprobably does, but this was an upgrade not a fresh install03:00
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louieb39cwith it as a loki :(03:00
teem0When  using the kboot and the livecd desktop version can I type something (instead of just pressing enter) to start the installer instead of loading the live session.03:00
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Pollywogyou could try alien to make it a deb03:00
zerothislouieb39c: try alie03:00
zerothisn03:00
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apusBeauJeste: sudo apt-get remove packagename to uninstal03:01
Pollywoginstall the alient package louieb39c03:01
apus!retricted03:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about retricted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:01
louieb39cwell do you guys think I will make the dependencies?03:01
Pollywogalien03:01
scuzzlebutthello i need help with installing hamachi on fiesty fawn, can someone from this room help me?03:01
Grahamlouieb39c: If it's a seperate RPM then yes, but you'd need to use alien to convert it to a .deb file03:01
BeauJesteubotu, i have followed that link and done those things https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but it is still broken, i suspect i will have to unistall somehow03:01
Pollywoglouieb39c: did you get a Cedega membership?03:01
Pollywogif so you can just download a deb03:02
apusBeauJeste: ubotu is a bot :P, you've used the restricted package?03:02
BeauJesteapus but the original nvidia install was not done through apt03:02
en1gmais there another mirror besides this one? http://mirrors.kernel.org/03:02
BeauJestei am not sure03:02
louieb39cPollywog: it seems to me that I didn't need one - I just used the user name I made for mandriva and it allowed me to use it in mandriva...but if I go to the site - it says I have to pay03:02
zerothisI find I need to mannually install some dependacies about 25% of the time that i use alien03:02
Graham!at all03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about at all - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
GrahamBot abuse!03:03
scuzzlebuttwell i guess i must be in the wrong room, tks anyways L8trz03:03
apusBeauJeste: i would try removing whatever has been installed as far as nvidia drivers, then follow the site for restricted package03:03
intelikeyzerothis alien    yuch03:03
Pollywoglouieb39c: yes you have to pay but if you got a rpm from Mandriva, use alient to make a deb from it03:03
Pollywogalien03:03
louieb39cthanks03:03
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Grahamlouieb39c: You pirate you... :P03:03
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BeauJesteapus i have the proprietary drivers for devices checked03:03
louieb39cna its on the disk! I SWEAR03:03
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louieb39chaha I tried to pirate it and the account didn't work ;)03:04
Pollywoginstall alient and then 'sudo alien packagename.rpm03:04
g35hello, how do i install and view which drivers are installed03:04
Pollywoginstall alient and then 'sudo alien packagename.rpm'03:04
apusBeauJeste: sounds right, now just remove whatever package you installed in edgy03:04
BeauJesteapus and i agree i am just not sure how to unistall the nvidia stuff that was not installed by apt03:04
GrahamThe .deb that gets generated will be placed in your home directory BTW.03:04
zerothisintelikey: i try to compile from source before i try alien03:04
louieb39cI wonder what is different about the rpm from mandriva that makes the account work03:04
louieb39chmn..03:04
apusBeauJeste: neither am I, I've only used this for 3 days !03:04
Pollywogyou can't compile cedega03:04
en1gmahttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/ <<<<<<<< ==== SLOW03:04
en1gmais there another server03:05
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GrahamI love alien, helped me install loads of stuff.03:05
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louieb39cpolly: not even from their CVS?03:05
apusBeauJeste: but now you can ask a new question "can someone help me remove a package"03:05
Pollywoglouieb39c: okay maybe from their cvs03:05
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russiane39_Hi03:05
Grahamen1gma: Try any of these love.03:05
Grahamhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fk%2Fkdetv%2Fkdetv_0.8.9-1_i386.deb&md5sum=fd3b3c519301bef4714e7b0e7063532d&arch=i386&type=main03:05
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russiane39_Where is Restricted devices manager in 7.04 ?03:05
louieb39cpolly: think their cvs will need an account..?03:06
zerothisPollywog: exactly why i used alien to install Yahoo Messenger for UNIX03:06
Pollywogbut the prepackaged debs and rpm's are better because they have some files that are proprietary and you might need them03:06
BeauJesteapus the thing is its not a package03:06
russiane39_Can't switch to nv xorg module03:06
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intelikeyGraham ever hear of   "tinyurl.com"03:06
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apusBeauJeste: I've told you everything I can03:06
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russiane39_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:06
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DaveTheAveCan someone please help me with a sound card issue? It might be just a sound driver update issue!03:06
GrahamI'm not using some other site just to paste ONE SMEGGING URL!03:06
russiane39_Here I found that I need to use Restricted device manager03:06
russiane39_but can't find it in fresh installed Kubuntu 7.0403:07
en1gmaGraham i need other libs to go with that03:07
GrahamDaveTheAve: I'm afraid nobody can Dave.03:07
en1gmanot just that pkg anymor03:07
GrahamThen download them too.03:07
en1gmait wont let me in03:07
en1gmathat link you just gave03:07
jamieDaveTheAve: what is the problem?03:07
GrahamWhat the fuck do you mean it won't let you in?03:07
GrahamIt's a smegging link.03:07
Pollywog!ohmy03:07
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:07
en1gmamd5 sum error when i take it off03:07
russiane39_Anyone knows where Restricted device manager in Kubuntu ?03:07
Grahamhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kdetv03:08
BeauJesteyes, and thanks apus03:08
DaveTheAveJamie: I'm having an issue with my sound card... I believe it's a HDA Intel.... and no it's NOT Muted03:08
intelikeyDaveTheAve cat /proc/asound/cards03:08
GrahamScroll to the bottom, where it says Download, under Architecture select i386.03:08
DaveTheAveIntelikey:03:08
DaveTheAve 0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel03:08
DaveTheAve                      HDA Intel at 0xdc440000 irq 2203:08
intelikeyDaveTheAve ok what is the issue03:09
en1gmak got it thanks03:09
DaveTheAveI get NO sound03:09
DaveTheAveand it's not muted03:09
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zerothisi never thought 'family friendly' was a good phrase to discourage bad language. after all, most kids first hear cursewords from their parents03:09
russiane39_Anyone03:09
russiane39_Where that Restricted Devices manager ?03:10
GrahamSwearing is bollocks IMO, it's just covering stuff, but it's become more than that, words are taboo dispite their meaning.03:10
GrahamFor example, why is it anymore socially exceptable to say feces than to say shit?03:10
apusgraham so true03:10
intelikeyDaveTheAve turn the volume down and do    cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp         then slowly raise the volume to see if it's producing white noise03:10
GrahamIt's the same thing!03:10
apusgraham: ever heard of a show called bullshit03:10
Iwonder|toogood point Graham03:11
intelikeyDaveTheAve the control C to stop that. ^03:11
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GrahamYeah... I loved that episode about PETA.03:11
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DaveTheAveIntelikey: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy03:11
GrahamThough we don't get it in the UK It was on YouTube03:11
apusgraham: have you seen the one about swearing?03:11
GrahamNo.03:11
apusGraham: you should attempt to, its exactly what your saying03:11
intelikeyDaveTheAve ok in kmenu > system settings > sound03:11
g35hello where can i find video drivers for my intel 945g on board video card03:12
intelikeyDaveTheAve stop the sound server and try again.03:12
DaveTheAvek03:12
jamiedavetheave: try killing the process artsd then trying again03:12
GrahamI mean, I swear but I don't do it over the top to offend people. I've never said cunt next to a little kid or anything.03:13
intelikeyjamie if you want this on it's all yours.   but don't start and then bail on him.03:13
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DaveTheAveIntelikey: no change03:14
DaveTheAveJamie: As with Intelikey no change03:14
louieb39cthis is interesting - even in the x64 folder on the mandriava disk the rpm for cedega is x3203:14
louieb39coops x8603:14
intelikeyDaveTheAve hmmm ok.   lets see what jamie comes up with.03:14
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blblmefeisty-dvd-i386.iso.torrent  ....03:15
Whiz2anyone here know anything about the exim4 MTA?03:15
jamiedavetheave: in the hardware tab of the sound settings, what is the device set to?03:15
lordhelmethey all...upgraded to feisty and my shutdown/restart options aren't available on the kde menu. i'm using gdm + kde03:15
lordhelmetany ideas03:16
louieb39cany way I can install the x86 rpm package with alien on an x64 system..I don't see in the man file anything about a force arch03:16
DaveTheAveJamie: Auto but I ran through 'em all already with no lick03:16
LeeJunFanlordhelmet: it's because you're using gdm03:16
DaveTheAveluck*03:16
lordhelmetit worked in dapper and edgy though03:16
LeeJunFanlordhelmet: hrm, I've never had it work on any linux distro in the past 10 years. So I always just assumed it just plain didn't work with gdm.03:17
Grahamapus: I wana buy that show on DVD or something. Infact, I'll go torrent seeking.03:17
Whiz2Someone yesterday advised that i should install the exim4 package, but never gave me any ideas on how to check the mail on my server03:17
stoftLeeJunFan: works here, but I'm still on edgy. before edgy it didn't work.03:18
DaveTheAveJamie: And I got that white noise program to work but I'm not getting anything reguardless of Kmix settings03:18
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lordhelmetyeah only after went away did i realize it wasn't supposed to work03:18
jamieok, so you got whitenoise working, but what else isnt playing?03:18
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DaveTheAveJamie: No... white noise program is running... but no noise is heard.03:19
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jamieDaveTheAve: ok.. are there different sockets at the back of your computer you can plug the speakers into?03:19
DaveTheAveJamie: Laptop - Toshiba Sat A135-S4467... Sorry no X-Fi card here...03:20
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RictooI just loaded up Feisty and everything seems (literally) 75% faster03:20
Rictoois this normal?03:20
Jack3:P03:20
Admiral_ChicagoRictoo: that is yes :)03:21
louieb39cjeez can't get alien to convert cedega to deb :(03:21
intelikeyjamie might mention to him to use  alsamixer to addjust the sound03:21
RictooAdmiral_Chicago: But why?03:21
RictooThere must be some base reason03:21
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Admiral_Chicagowhat type of system do you run?03:21
Rictoodesktop03:21
Rictoo=/03:21
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Admiral_Chicagolouieb39c: iirc, there is a deb for it03:21
Admiral_Chicago64 bit?03:21
Rictoo3203:21
intelikeyjamie cause kmix probably wont do anything to  cat urandom > dsp03:22
Admiral_Chicagoodd, not sure why it would seem faster03:22
jamieintelikey: you seem more knowledgeable than me, maybe you should troubleshoot it03:22
Rictoohmm03:22
Rictoomaybe my setup before was messed up?03:22
louieb39cadmiral: I am trying to get the payed for version from my mandriva disk to convert to deb but its x86 and not x64 - even though I installed x64 mandriva and it installed fin eon it03:22
DaveTheAveAlsamixer don't work ether03:22
DaveTheAveTryed it alrady03:22
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intelikeyi'll leave you alone, jamie you're doing fine.  just thought you might have over looked that.  and i was the one that asked him to test it that way.   sooooo...03:23
DaveTheAveIntelikey: Thanks for your help though. I know you tryed03:23
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aaroncampbellIs there any encyclopedia software for Kubuntu (or linux in general I guess)?  One of the things my son misses is Encarta.  I let him run it in an XP virtual Machine right now...03:24
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mtm8Does anyone know how to setup a preseed file for a remastered alternate CD so that it partitions in the following manner?03:25
mtm8/dev/sda1: 128 M (ext2) mounted as /boot with 0% reserved for superuser and noauto,noatime mount options; /dev/sda2: 40 G (ext3) mounted as / with 3% reserved for superuser and defaults,errors=remount-ro mount options; /dev/sda3: 11 G extended partition; /dev/sda4: NTFS partition, not mounted; /dev/sda5: 1 G for swap; /dev/sda6: 10 G (ext3) mounted as /home/DOMAIN with 0% reserved for superuser and defaults,grpquota mount options03:25
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jamiedavetheave: hmm hang on, ill just google if for a minute03:25
GrahamDaveTheAve: Does the card actually work?03:25
g35hello anyone here have a mobile intel 945g chipset?03:25
DaveTheAveGraham: It did before the 7.04 upgrade03:25
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DaveTheAveJamie: I think i found something in the wiki.. let me try it out03:26
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jamiedavetheave: how did you upgrade? by cd or from the internet?03:26
marissajust upgraded to feisty fawn, now I can't log in. "usplash: no usable theme for 640x480"03:27
DaveTheAveJamie: I just did a Clean install... by CD03:27
stoftis there a meta-package that I can use to deinstall gnome and/or gdm?03:27
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intelikeystoft gdm can be removed easy enough   sudo apt-get remove gdm03:28
jamiedavetheave: sorry, i cant help you. I just dont know enough about this sort of thing03:28
stoftintelikey: yeah, kinda guessed that would be the easy one...03:29
DaveTheAveJamie: Like I told Intelikey, Thank you for trying03:29
Grahammarissa: Sounds like you don't have the usplash package.03:29
GrahamUse the recovery mode, login and apt-get install it.03:30
intelikeystoft you might try    sudo apt-get remove gconf*  on removing gnome  but read through the list it churns out to make sure you want all of them removed03:30
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marissaGraham: Thanks, I'll give it a go03:30
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stoftk, thnx03:30
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louieb39cso no one have any recommendations for me with alien?03:31
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zerothislouieb39c: try to complie from sorce first. failing that, be prepared to install dependacies manually03:32
louieb39cinstall cedega from source?03:32
intelikeystoft if you really want to play hard ball with the packages.   it is possable to do something like dropping to a console and  removing perl  ["Yes, do as I say!"]   installing deborphan and using a for loop to clean any un-needed libs then installing the *buntu-desktop of your choice.     {not for the faint of heart}03:32
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stoft:) in that case it almost sounds easier just reinstalling from scratch :)03:33
intelikeyDaveTheAve any joy ?03:34
stoftil give gconf2 a try and see what it churns out03:34
intelikeystoft :)03:34
DaveTheAveWell i edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base so now i need to restart03:34
DaveTheAveI'll tell ya then03:34
intelikeyk03:34
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intelikeyit's the hit man !03:37
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hitmanWillyyes, i have returned :)03:37
louieb39cif I send someone the rpm from mandriva would someone convert it to deb for me?03:38
Criuswhy is there a green line at the bottom of the movie picture in VLC?03:38
marissaGraham: the recovery console won't let me access sudo or apt-get03:38
jttmy install of kubuntu 7.04 with Nvidia 6800 chip only gives me 1024x768 max resol what is the best command to reconfig to say 1600x1200 etc.03:38
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DaveTheAveI have returned and it didn't work03:38
hitmanWillyCrius, that sounds like a decoding error03:39
Criushmmm03:39
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jtt!nvidia03:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:39
intelikeyhitmanWilly any good with sound ?03:39
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stoftintelikey: gconf2 gives some good suggestions, but I'm dead tired so gonna work with it tomorro. nn03:40
hitmanWillyintelikey, a little, why?03:40
intelikeyhitmanWilly DaveTheAve has a card with no output03:40
raef55just installed kubuntu 7.04 from cd and i have no sound from Audigy 2  sound card , had sound with Edgy-Eft 6.1003:40
intelikeyhitmanWilly i'm not much on sound   and two releases behind on software now...03:41
hitmanWillyhmm, alsa loading? mixer unmuted?03:41
Grahammarissa: You're pretty boned then.03:41
DaveTheAveReaf55 same issue here but with a HDA Intel03:41
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intelikeyhitmanWilly yep   proc/asound/cards lists it03:41
marissaGraham: it's the "ash" shell instead of bash...03:41
louieb39caudigy 2 zs works fine for me03:42
GrahamOoo... Bash, must read.03:42
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intelikeyDaveTheAve the hitman  "might"  be able to help you there.     i'm two releases behind, so not much to go on from here.03:42
g35hello, im having trouble changing my resolution pass 1024x768, i went into my xorg conf file and it shows i can support higher res modes...any ideas?03:43
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Daisuke_Idoi should politely stab nicotine+'s developer03:43
DaveTheAvealight03:43
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ferromagHey freepeoples03:43
Daisuke_Idog35: install krandrtray03:43
Daisuke_Idohello iron wizard03:44
ferromagdoes anyone know if it is possible to talk to ichat?03:44
Daisuke_Idoisn't ichat a jabber client?03:44
Admiral_Chicagoferromag: afaik, orage should be able to do that03:44
Admiral_Chicagowait03:44
hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, open up kmix and make sure you don't have anything muted03:44
Admiral_Chicagonevermind03:44
Admiral_Chicagosorry I read iCal03:44
Aloneaok, when I upgraded I guess the gaim upgraded too, it looks different, but it does not work.03:44
g35Daisuke_Ido, cool, is that like a res changer and a whole lot more?03:45
ferromagorage... oo haven;t heard about it yet, is it in the repo?03:45
DaveTheAvehitmanwilly03:45
DaveTheAvehitmanwilly done03:45
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hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, ok, anything?03:45
AloneaIt says "waiting for network connection" and its been that way for 20 minutes03:45
Daisuke_Idog35 yep, very VERY nice03:45
g35hmm03:45
MegaBindhow do i force ls to show the full path of the listed files?03:45
g35seems like my sudo didnt find it03:45
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: knetworkmanager?03:45
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Daisuke_Idog35: it may be in universe03:45
ferromagmshade_: what is this03:45
Daisuke_Ido!krandrtray03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krandrtray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:45
Daisuke_Idoor already installed03:46
DaveTheAvehitmanwilly to bring you up to speed... I'm running a Toshiba Sat A135 Laptop and the sound card is a HDA Intel it worked in 6.10 but not in 7.0403:46
g35Daisuke_Ido, hmm oh yeah how do i enable kubuntu to search all repos?03:46
marissaGraham: It says that job control is turned off, but CTRL+ALT+F1 won't let me switch to ttyl103:46
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: I turned that one off. I use the wireless manager. I have internet. I am on it right now talking to you.03:46
DaveTheAvehitmanwilly No nothing is muted03:46
Daisuke_Idog35: it's installed03:46
Grahamctrl alt f503:46
Daisuke_Idog35: just alt+f2 > krandrtray03:46
g35how do u know?03:46
MegaBindhow do i force ls to show the full path of the listed files?03:47
Daisuke_Idog35: you on feisty?03:47
g35yeah03:47
Daisuke_Idoi'm on a default install and it's here :)03:47
hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, lsmod | grep snd03:47
g35hmm i cant change past 1024x768 still03:47
Daisuke_Idohmm03:47
marissaGraham: ctrl alt f5 has no effect03:47
Daisuke_Idowell the NEXT option is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org03:47
hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, pastebin the output please03:47
Daisuke_Idoand make sure you have the proper resolutions selected03:47
GrahamI don't know mate... I'm too tiiiiiiiiiiiiiired.03:47
DaveTheAveh/o03:47
g35Daisuke_Ido, krandrtray just ran screen and resolution changer03:48
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Daisuke_Idog35: that's what krandrtray is :)03:48
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g35i thougt it was more03:48
g35hehe03:48
MegaBindhow do i force ls to show the full path of the listed files?03:48
Ax4what sound cards are you guys using?03:48
Ax4if you don't know: "lspci -v | grep Audio"03:49
intelikeyDaveTheAve see Ax403:49
Daisuke_Idoonboard nvidia ac'9703:49
Ax4aww crap03:49
g35Daisuke_Ido, hmm i get this: xserver-org is not installed03:49
Ax4i'd love to help you guys03:49
Ax4library is closing03:49
Ax4i have to pack up and leave03:49
Daisuke_Idoxserver-xorg03:49
Daisuke_Idomy mistake03:49
intelikeyAx4 that's a good one.03:50
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DaveTheAveIntelikey: Ax4? I'm not a complete beginner with linux but I'm sorry to say i don't know what you mean.03:50
g35Daisuke_Ido, before i do this, should fiesty automatically pick up my intel 945gm chipset and drivers?03:50
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Ax4it's 9:50 EST, University library closes at 1003:50
Ax4:\03:50
DaveTheAvehitmanWilly: http://pastebin.ca/45072303:50
intelikeyAx4 k  thanks for the offer then.03:50
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Ax4i'll be back prolly in an hour03:50
Ax4need to walk home across campus heh03:50
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Daisuke_Idoi'm not sure03:51
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Daisuke_Idoi would imagine, because intel has some of the better support under linux03:51
louieb39cOh well this alien thing is frustrating me03:51
Ax4intelikey, i've been helping people in #ubuntu with all sorts of problems for the last 2 hours, but the clock is the clock, gotta leave heh, i'll bbl though if these guys are still around :p03:52
intelikeyAx4 thanks.03:52
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Daisuke_Idogoing to shut down, see if maybe i can reclaim a hard drive03:52
Daisuke_Idogo go pci ide controller cards!03:52
g35bah how come firefox03:53
marissaGraham: restarted and it boots fine now... must have been a fluke. So you can get to bed now =)03:53
Daisuke_Idobought one a couple years back, haven't hardly used it03:53
g35doesnt go back when i press backspace03:53
hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, well, it looks like all the right modules are loaded, im drawing a blank here. have you tried the wiki?03:53
DaveTheAveYes sir03:53
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hitmanWillyDaveTheAve, short of googling it, ive really got no idea. sorry :(03:54
DaveTheAvehitmanWilly: Don't worry about it.... i'll write up a nice LONG post for the forum03:54
hitmanWillymaybe someone who knows more about this than i do will answer :)03:55
DaveTheAveThis isn't something that can easly be done via IRC03:55
DaveTheAveI hope, thank you for your time03:55
hitmanWillynp03:56
apuscan anyone help me with open office, whenever it loads a particular doc file it crashes instantly03:56
kymoielol I came in hear to ask a similar question03:57
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kymoieopen office won't open the dictionary wizard for me03:57
apuswhats really cool is how fast it recovers the document and tries to open it again03:57
kymoieapus are you using 7.04?03:57
apusyes03:57
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apushow well does ms office work in wine?03:58
louieb39cok I got alien to make a deb from my rpm of cedega --I installed it but when I type cedega into the terminal I get nothing03:58
louieb39csince I installed it with alien does that have anything do it with it?03:58
hitmanWillyapus, i would guess pretty bad03:58
louieb39ccrossoveroffice isn't bad03:59
louieb39cI would use that instead of office03:59
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louieb39cI mean03:59
louieb39cinstead of wine03:59
kymoieopen office is usually quite good03:59
DaSkreechlouieb39c: What are you using alien for?03:59
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louieb39cI payed for mandriva and it came with an rpm of cedega that doesn't need an account04:00
louieb39cI want to get it on ubuntu04:00
apuswell, I need to open this document, and I might just boot the windows partition, but that doesn't bode well for linux fanboys04:00
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Aloneais there a channel for gaim that could help me?04:01
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unix_infidel#gaim04:01
unix_infidelAlonea: ^^^04:01
apusany way to virtualize windows xp?04:01
louieb39cwhey can't you open it in OOo?04:01
acamargobho04:01
acamargobhi04:01
louieb39clol use CENTOS!04:01
DaSkreechlouieb39c: ah04:01
unix_infidel!vmware | apus04:01
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ubotuapus: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers04:01
apusvmware is free on nix?04:02
acamargobi got a problem when i tried to upgrade to feisty04:02
unix_infidelapus: correct.04:02
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acamargobi guess i got some corrupt packagers04:02
apuswierd, it costs on pc04:02
hitmanWillyapus, the player is anyway04:02
acamargob*packages04:02
louieb39cany idea Daskreech?04:02
apushitmanWilly: does it work well?04:02
louieb39capt says its installed04:02
hitmanWillyapus, i don't know, never used it04:02
DaSkreechHi Alonea04:03
Kubuntu-Noobanyone know the correct way to enter a 128 bit WEP key?04:03
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brujohello04:03
acamargobhola04:03
brujoah q hablaisd espaol04:03
brujomola04:03
DaSkreechlouieb39c: cedega would seem to be to complex for alien to work04:03
hitmanWilly!es04:03
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:03
DaSkreechlouieb39c: You can build cedega from source04:03
DaSkreechapus: What kind of document?04:04
louieb39cda: isn't it proprietary?04:04
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AloneaDaSkreech: hey!04:04
DaSkreechlouieb39c: Kindaish04:04
brujoI am trying kubuntu in vmware tomorrow I install the kubuntu in my pc04:04
brujojeje04:04
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g35best kde theme?04:04
kymoieis Kubuntu in vm available yet?04:04
DaSkreechif a package is built you have to pay but you should be able to get the source manually and compile it yourself04:05
louieb39cda: I don't understand. could you help? Do I need to use cvs's or what?04:05
brujoyes kymoei04:05
acetoxyg35: I like Domino04:05
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apusDaSkreech: .doc04:05
DaSkreechlouieb39c: Not sure really but it's held on cvs04:05
g35acetoxy, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/domino+for+Sflack+current?content=56633 ?04:05
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DaSkreechapus: does it have images or scripts?04:05
g35acetoxy, or: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4280404:05
louieb39cda: do you think I still need an account to play?04:06
apusDaSkreech: no idea, it crashes before the gui even loads04:06
acetoxyg35: Yes, that last one04:06
DaSkreechapus: Ah you have never read the document?04:07
apusDaSkreech: correct04:07
apuswait, so with vmplayer I can actually install my own thing on it? I need to find a pre made?04:07
apuscan someone recomend anothe rvirtualizer04:07
apusso much for all this being "free"04:07
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DaSkreech!qemu04:07
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo04:07
louieb39cno no no, virtualbox04:08
DaSkreech!virtualbox04:08
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox04:08
DaSkreech!xen04:08
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy04:08
louieb39cvirtualbox is great, I would still use it but no x64 support04:08
freakangelany one care to help a noob install some video drivers?04:08
apusill try virtualbox then04:08
DaSkreechfreakangel: What video card?04:08
freakangelgeforce  6800\04:08
DaSkreech!nvidia04:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:08
freakangelpcie04:08
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DaSkreech:-)04:09
apuswith virtual box I can set up some sort of directory that is accesible by both the virtual os and the native?04:09
louieb39cyes you can04:09
DaSkreechover the network i would guess04:09
DaSkreechor a shared fat32 partition04:10
louieb39cnope04:10
louieb39cit has an option04:10
brujoI have a question, may I transfer files of ext3 partition to ntfs?04:10
DaSkreech!ntfs3g04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
DaSkreech!ntfs-3g04:10
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:10
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louieb39canyone get this?04:12
louieb39c"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"04:12
brujothannk you ubotu04:12
apuswill the edgy eft virtualbox instal work on fiesty?04:12
freakangelthanx cant go wronge wit this04:13
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kymoieapus: can you see the document you want to use behind the document recovery window?04:13
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The_Machinequick question about beryl - what is the applet or whatever that makes it so that if you have 3 open windows and you put your cursor in the upper right hand corner, it makes the windows viewable in thumbnails?04:13
The_Machine:)04:13
DaSkreechThe_Machine: you either want the hot corners or scale or #ubuntu-effects04:14
ferromagThe_Machine: if i'm not mistaken it's called Place04:14
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The_Machinei'm going to look now!04:15
The_Machineit isn't Place...04:16
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The_Machineheh, it isn't Scale..04:16
DaSkreech#ubuntu-effects :-)04:17
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blazei having a weird issue with knetworkmanager in feisty04:18
blazeit times out when connecting to wireless network and kicks me back to entering wep04:18
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blazebut if I enetr key using iwconfig as soon as I hit connect it works fine04:19
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blazeso i thinking network manager is either not entering key properly or is modifying it so its the wrong key04:20
blazeany one have any ideas or have encountered this issue?04:20
SCORulesHas anyone been following SCOX stock?04:20
SCORulesInsider information predicts a 400% ROI on SCOX stock.04:21
DaSkreech!kops04:22
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal04:22
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DaSkreechdevoice please :)04:22
ferromagI have a question - good editor-like gui for ruby?04:22
ferromagHelp!04:22
DaSkreech!webdev04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
nixternalhrmm, he was banned yesterday for the same thing04:22
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DaSkreech!ide04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
DaSkreechhmm04:22
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ferromag!ruby04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ruby - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
DaSkreechferromag: kate in short04:23
jttDaSkreech, so thats how they are called never knew that04:23
DaSkreechbut probably kdevelop if you are a serious editor04:23
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DaSkreechthere is one which gives you a list of editors04:23
cpk1use console for ruby?04:23
DaSkreechdon't recall which one now04:23
Jack3hmm im havn a small problem04:24
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Jack3after clicking install on the desktop of the live cd, i get to step 4 and the partitions thing04:24
Jack3i click manual, and i get a list of partitions on my single hard disk04:24
Jack3i want to resize the windows one so i can have about 15gb of it for linux04:24
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soulriderholy crapola, feisty is SO fast!!04:27
soulrideri was just trying it out on a 2.7ghz Celeron with 256mb of RAM and it owns!!04:27
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RictooIs there a google earth package in some repo?04:28
Ace2016Rictoo: yes it is04:29
nixternalwhere?04:29
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nixternalthere is an Ubuntu download for Google earth on Google's website04:29
RictooAce2016: Where?04:29
RictooI know that04:29
DaSkreechJack3: Where is the problem?04:29
Rictoobut I want a package04:29
Ace2016Rictoo:  its in the Medibuntu repo04:29
Jack3on step 4 of the installer04:29
Jack3none of the options give the choice to resize the NTFS partition04:29
Rictoothanks, Ace201604:29
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NetersLandreauthanks soulrider, now i'll have to go buy another computer just for feisty ;)04:31
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soulriderlol NetersLandreau04:31
soulriderwhat computer do you have ?04:31
DrenheadI just installed Feisty and am having a problem with an external harddrive. it mounts it to /media/Backup but says I don't have access rights to it when I try to get into it.04:31
mtn_man.04:32
NetersLandreausony vaio.. dual boot.. and a couple of generic pc's that act as servers04:32
soulriderNetersLandreau: and how does it run ?04:32
NetersLandreaui'm running version 6..04:33
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NetersLandreaubut it runs awesome.. i'm totally sold on kubuntu04:33
RictooAce2016: Thanks for telling me about medibuntu :)04:33
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NetersLandreaui don't evenknow why i keep my sony dual-boot.. i never go into windows04:34
athenaCan someone help me I can play back avi files04:34
DaSkreech!codecs | athena04:34
ubotuathena: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:34
DaSkreechhow are you Alonea ?04:34
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NetersLandreauversion 6 is what? breezy?04:35
athenauboto i have tried these webpages to no avail04:35
Admiral_Chicagoeither dapper or edgy04:35
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NetersLandreauedgy i think..04:35
Admiral_Chicago6.06 is dapper, 6.10 is edgy04:35
NetersLandreau6.1004:36
DaSkreechathena: What avi ?04:36
NetersLandreaudoes it matter that i keep it updated?04:36
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athenacannot play any avi files do not have the correct codecs installed04:36
athenaon ubuntu04:37
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athena6.0604:37
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NetersLandreaui ask because every time i completely rebuild a box, it seems i lose some data i don't even realize for 6 to 8 months04:37
DaSkreechathena: ubuntu?04:37
evfreshman2025can someone help me install Frostwire?04:37
DaSkreech!frostwire04:37
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:37
athenaubuntu 6.06 gnome, synaptic package manager04:38
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DaSkreechathena: and you installed the long list of things that they have on the site?04:38
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athenaDaSkreech we thru the restricted formats page but when i got to the apt part it returned an erro and i could not go any further..04:39
DaSkreechathena: i think I may know the problem can You paste your sources.list ?04:40
DaSkreech!paste | athena04:40
ubotuathena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:40
DaSkreechathena: find the file /etc/apt/sources.list and put the contents there04:40
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athenaDaSkreech doing right know04:42
DaSkreechok04:42
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thompamacbook 2nd gen is working real good. yippee04:43
DaSkreechppc?04:43
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thompaintel core 204:43
athenaDaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16710/04:43
rockstar-althello04:43
thompathe new ones, i upped ram to 2G04:43
thompathe mac partition is only 4.5G04:44
thompaberyl, madwifi, and touchpad are all working04:44
ShiftyNice!04:44
s0undt3chhello ppl04:44
Shiftymy laptop isn't powerful enough to run beryl04:45
thompatouchpad in linux is better than in osx way i got it04:45
Shiftylooks pretty though from what I've seen.04:45
thompathere is a 3-4 finger touch for right click04:45
DaSkreechathena: can you put the entire file please?04:45
s0undt3chIs there a way for me to "tunnel" every connection made from my kubuntu desktop through the company's http proxy(squid)?04:46
thompaShifty: it should work fine, what you got04:46
s0undt3chspecially ssh connections04:46
s0undt3chand I did setup the proxy on the settings pannel04:46
s0undt3chbut for example to use apt I need to export http_proxy04:46
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athenaDaSkreeh that is the entire file contents04:47
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DaSkreechathena: Woah04:47
thompaShifty: ive installed beryl on some old laptops04:47
Shiftyreally?04:47
DaSkreechthat's disturbing04:47
ShiftyI've got a 9 month old Dell D81004:47
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DaSkreechThis is Ubuntu?04:47
ShiftyKubuntu04:47
thompaShifty: it will work fine04:47
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ShiftyWell I'll give it another try04:48
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ShiftyLast time I tried it, I was using the 7.04 beta04:48
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ShiftySo that might have had something to do with it.04:48
os2macHow do you bring up the cube in Beryl?04:48
thompaShifty: are you running kubuntu, what version?04:48
athenaDaSkreeh: where do we go from here any ideas?04:48
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ShiftyKubuntu 7.0404:48
terrestresomeone with problem in the new feisty?04:48
terrestreinstalation04:48
thompaos2mac: ctrl alt arrows04:48
terrestre!es04:48
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:48
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os2macI don't get a cube... just a list of windows04:49
s0undt3chterrestre: I had several(installing it on an LG laptop)04:49
DaSkreechathena: Did you put in those lines?04:49
thompaos2mac: i use a lasermouse on my macbook intel04:49
terrestrei cant, complete the instalation on a packarbell desktop pc, and on a friend pc04:49
athenaDaSkreeh: they where there?04:49
athenaDaSkreeh: they where there..04:49
anakimWhy use the window? if you can use the door04:49
thompaos2mac: are you running beryl or compiz?04:50
s0undt3chterrestre: what's the problem shown?04:50
os2macberyl04:50
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DaSkreechathena: how did you install the OS?04:50
terrestrefreeze instalation in 82% on the configutarion apt04:50
thompaos2mac: put your cursor over desktop background04:50
thompahold down ctrl alt, then arrows04:50
athenaDaSkreeh: via disc04:50
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thompaos2mac: or click and drag04:51
DaSkreechwhere did you get the disc?04:51
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s0undt3chterrestre: heh, you got further than me, I had to install some packages by hand in order for it to install, after that no problem04:51
thompactrl + alt and click and drag works04:51
athenaDaSkreeh: back in 20 minutes04:51
os2macstill not seeing the cube come up.04:52
DaSkreechathena: ok04:52
thompaos2mac: reload the window manger also try kde aqua04:52
DaSkreechathena: Where did you get the disc?04:52
terrestres0undt3ch: actually i on feisty becasuse im on the beta release about a week, and i tell to friend to try kubuntu feisty and both with problems,04:52
athenaLinux User Magazine04:52
fakepatriotcan someone tell me how to install these icons http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal+Diamond+Icons?content=45576 or perhaps suggest some better ones?04:52
athenaDaSkreeh: Linux User Magazine04:52
terrestres0undt3ch: do you try ubuntu? or just kubuntu?04:52
DaSkreechathena: ok I'll check it out04:52
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athenaDaSkreeh: Issue 6304:53
athenaDaSkreeh: back in 20 minutes04:53
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DaSkreechathena: Ok thanks I'll try be here04:53
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thompaim not sure how well power management is working on c2d mac04:54
thompabut in kde i can see messages at least04:54
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thompais wireless effected by scaling powersave vs on demand?04:55
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Doctor_Nickprobably04:55
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thompawireless is working suspicously well04:56
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thompaits the madwifi test build for core 2 macs04:56
DaSkreechYeah04:56
DaSkreechtime to switch to amiga04:56
DaSkreechThings are getting too easy in the land of linux04:56
Doctor_Nickhell yeah dawg04:56
Doctor_Nicklets play some maniac mansion04:57
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Doctor_Nickit was probably a bad idea to download the entire games universe repository04:57
thompai think im getting better reception on dynamic powersave setting04:57
Doctor_Nickcould be just coincidence04:58
thompaDoctor_Nick: i did that once , some of the games were too weird04:58
Doctor_Nickthompa: and half of them are clones of pac-man04:58
thompai was I could play bzflag on this04:58
Doctor_Nickwhy cant you?04:59
thompaim going to try again04:59
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Doctor_Nickgraphics card?04:59
thompait was kind of slow before, 0915 i think,04:59
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ShiftyI have a Dell D810 with and ATI x300 gfx card. Anyone have a similar config that got beryl to work?05:00
thompaDoctor_Nick: on the main pc i got nvidia card though, im going to try it on macbook here05:00
unix_infideldoes the alternate cd install everything....jeez05:00
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s0undt3chterrestre: I tried both and even the alternate install cd, but my problem was that (k)ubuntu doesn't ship with my lan nor video card kernel modules05:00
thompahow do i check for opengl info?05:00
gansinho_please how do I set up kontact to have it's own icon in system tray05:00
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artabrahaowhat happened with ubuntu-6.10-server-i386?05:01
Shiftyglxinfo | grep opengl05:01
ShiftyI think05:01
terrestres0undt3ch: edgy installation was ok the first time?05:01
thompatanks05:01
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Shiftyor, glxinfo | grep vendor05:01
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s0undt3chterrestre: well I didn't try edgy on this laptop, I bought it 4 days ago :)05:02
Doctor_Nickreturn it? :P05:02
whytheamcan I get the desktop effects in kde05:02
Shiftyyeah05:02
whytheamhow05:02
ShiftyAdd/Remove programs05:02
dennisterhey pps, i've got some big mpg files (5+G) that I need to break into smaller chunks to archive, any recommendations as to a program to use?05:02
Doctor_Nickark?05:03
dennistertried ark...keeps failing on me05:03
terrestres0undt3ch: aaah, mmm and now do you are using feisty?05:03
Shifty7-zip is my favorite05:03
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s0undt3chterrestre: yep :)05:03
dennister7-zip to break it into chunks?05:03
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s0undt3chterrestre: my only problem now is how to tunnel all connections, including ssh trough my company's squid proxy05:04
Doctor_Nickhow do you set up seperate x-servers for games and such?05:04
s0undt3chterrestre: on with with putty I'm able to do it, but on *nux I can't pass an http proxy to ssh05:04
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s0undt3chterrestre: s/with with/win with/05:05
terrestres0undt3ch: thats way beyond my knoledge05:05
artabrahaowhat happened with ubuntu-6.10-server-i386? To a server whatis better and more stable, 6.06 ot 7.04?05:05
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unix_infidelok, i'm pretty pissed off here, is the alternate cd installing EVERYTHING?05:05
the_hammeranyone else here having any difficulties with time outs?05:05
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unix_infidelits installing the entire DE and relatd apps.05:05
felzixthe_hammer: me05:05
the_hammerevery file i try i get timed out05:05
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Dr_willissome of the servers are overloaded05:06
dennisterthe_hammer: me too05:06
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felzixmakes sense05:06
ShiftyYeah I think the alternate CD is for non-network installs.05:06
ShiftyIn case you can't update over the net.05:06
Dr_willisalternate cd has a lot of uses. :)05:06
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unix_infidelDr_willis: i'm sure it does.05:06
stdinunix_infidel: the alternate CD installs the same stuff as the desktop one05:06
Dr_willisthe alt cd Might have some extra packages onit however compared to the live cd.05:06
dennisterack...and synaptic is crashing right after password05:07
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the_hammersynaptic is ok here just everything keeps getting time outs05:07
unix_infideli like doing a debian netboot sort of install05:07
Doctor_Nicklets play some video games05:07
the_hammercrazy cuz i got a ton of files im installing heh05:07
unix_infidelonly installing what i need and nothing more.05:07
unix_infidelkeep databases lean and mean.05:07
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diego_clhi05:08
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=== stdin got his new laptop today, and feisty runs great on it :D
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diego_clwich power-point-viewer program is good and leightweigh ????05:08
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unix_infidel!minimal05:08
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ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:08
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RictooWhat's the name of the alternative to tuxracer again?05:08
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Doctor_Nicksupertuxracer05:09
Doctor_Nicker05:09
Rictoolol05:09
Rictoono =p05:09
stdinplanet penguin?05:09
Doctor_Nicktux kart?05:09
carutsu!kde>carutsu05:09
Rictoosomething with penguin in it05:09
RictooDoctor_Nick, no05:09
the_hammerlol i like all those to05:09
GabzRictoo: planet penguin racer05:09
AloneaDaSkreech: I am doing pretty good. Just figuring out fiesty and doing homework05:09
the_hammerya should try torcs thats awsome05:09
carutsuhow do i turn of the 'active edges'?05:09
dennisteri'm getting lots of dependency errors, too, yet the required files to fix the dependences are "not installable"05:09
Rictooyeah, thanks Gabz :D05:09
marianoRencently installed ("compiled") nvidia driver, in kdm runs fine, but when I access with my user, kde desktop is at 58 hz refresh rate, and the controller shows as nv05:09
carutsui just don't know where i did enable them05:09
Gabzmy dvd-rom isn't reading dvds... :(05:10
ubuntuhey guys, I dont know what my 3 year old did, but my pc wont boot into kde. there is just a black screen05:10
diego_clwich power-point-viewer program is good and leightweigh ???? ???????????05:10
Dr_willisheh heh.05:10
kkathmangreetings, I am trying to install an nvidia driver for kubuntu but when I  do the sh NVIDIA driver file, it says that the kernel headers are missing, yet Synaptic reports they have been installed05:10
Gabzubuntu he unpluged the screen05:10
Rictooubuntu, LOL05:10
ubuntulol05:10
Dr_willisim not sure what a 3 yr old could do  that could break that. other then powering off the monitor/cable05:10
Rictooyeah XD05:10
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DaSkreech!tuxracer05:10
ubotuTuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy.05:10
RictooThat's actually not true05:10
carutsuanyone?05:11
diego_clplease help!! I need any light program to see power point files!05:11
terrestre!tuxkart05:11
RictooTuxRacer was bought by some company and now costs money05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuxkart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
DaSkreechAlonea: study well :) what course?05:11
Rictooand so someone made an open source clone of it called Planet Penguin Racer05:11
RictooTuxRacer was bought by some company and now costs money05:11
Rictooand so someone made an open source clone of it called Planet Penguin Racer05:11
stdindiego_cl: open them in open office05:11
RictooUBOTU IS WRONG05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is wrong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
g35can i install thunderbird 2 using apt-get? or is it not in the repos yet?05:11
brconneri have an hptc4200 tablet and feisty got it working right away except for one thing. my "right-click" on the stylus is actually acting like the middle click. is there any way i can change this?05:11
RictooUBOTU IS WRONG05:11
RictooTuxRacer was bought by some company and now costs money05:11
Doctor_Nick!butts05:11
Rictooand so someone made an open source clone of it called Planet Penguin Racer05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about butts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
kkathman!nvidia05:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:11
AloneaDaSkreech: Well, finishing up a computer science review at the moment. got finals in 10 days. have some history work to do too...05:11
carutsu!info mozilla-thunderbird05:11
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 10635 kB, installed size 29700 kB05:11
diego_clstdin, but the i have to install the whole suite, am i wrong?05:11
the_hammersynaptic drivers for nvidia have never ever worked for me although unsupported and i can see alot of replies back lol but i never had any problems with automatrix2 the nivdia drivers and everything work great05:11
carutsunop, not yet05:12
g35carutsu, i downloaded the tar.gz05:12
g35how i install it05:12
carutsuyou have to compile it05:12
stdindiego_cl: it's already installed, on a default install05:12
g352.0 that is05:12
Hobbseekkathman!05:12
carutsugeneraly ./install will make it05:12
ubuntuhow do I backup my stuff through a   live cd?05:12
diego_clstdin, I installed the minimal system05:12
DaSkreechubuntu: where are you putting it?05:12
Hobbseeg35: wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion05:13
ubuntucrap!!  good point05:13
carutsudoes anyone know where I can disable "active edges"? (you know the option in which you move your mouse to an edge then you change the desktop)05:13
kkathmanhiya Hobbsee - having some probs getting the nvidia driver installed :(05:13
Hobbseekkathman: ahh :(05:13
ubuntuwait, I have a flash drive05:13
the_hammersynaptic sucks for flash and adobe to ya d/l from there and then ya get an error and have to manually d/l docs place into /tmp and then run apt-get upgrade BUT through automatrix2 i dont have to go through all that hash and trash05:13
stdin!info pptview | diego_cl05:13
ubotudiego_cl: pptview: view PowerPoint slide shows. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0-5 (feisty), package size 1752 kB, installed size 3684 kB (Only available for i386)05:13
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee05:13
Doctor_Nickubuntu: you can change your name by typing "/name something"05:13
kkathmanHobbsee:  actually it started with me trying to get beryl installed, and I ran into probs there also05:13
Hobbseekkathman: yeah, well... :p05:14
DaSkreechubuntu: there you go then05:14
Hobbseehi DaSkreech05:14
the_hammeri had problems with beryl also05:14
DaSkreechFly Feisty! Lets go for Gutsy!05:14
the_hammerFeisty lives upto its name lol fights ya no matter what ya do05:15
brconnerwhen's gutsy coming out?05:15
DaSkreech!schedule05:15
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:15
Doctor_Nick!ubuntu05:15
DaSkreech!gutsy05:15
stdin7.10 = 2007/1005:15
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome05:15
Doctor_Nick:O05:15
Doctor_Nickreally?!05:15
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule05:15
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the_hammer!mepis05:15
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)05:15
Doctor_Nickmore like gusty gibbon05:15
carutsunobody knows about the active edges?05:16
brconnerdoes anyone know how i can change how my stylus works with my tablet?05:16
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DaSkreechHobbsee: can you take a look at something?05:16
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16710/05:16
DaSkreechsomeone's sources.list05:16
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g35Hobbsee, thanks a lot worked great05:16
brconnerthe pointer works great i didn't need to install any drivers or anything on fesity, but the right click is acting like a middle click05:16
Dr_willisbrconner,  i would say check/tweak/edit the xorg.conf file05:16
brconnerany ideas how i can change that?05:16
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ober0neok, having trouble with a re-install05:17
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ubuntuI keep gettting an error when I go to mount my hard drive with a live cd05:17
brconneri've already tried looking at the i think but i can't really tell what i would want to change05:17
DaSkreechubuntu: What error?05:17
g35also if i have thunderbird 1.50 installed how can i uninstall that?05:17
ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:18
ubuntuPlease check that the device is plugged correctly.05:18
DaSkreechubuntu: try sudo mount05:18
stdinubuntu: in feisty, it would be sdb105:18
ober0neanyone know a way to stop the system from hanging at 1% while scanning mirrors at install05:18
ober0ne?05:18
ubuntuok05:18
DaSkreechstdin: depends on if he has a sata or not05:18
athenaDaSkreeh: im back05:18
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stdinDaSkreech: nope05:18
DaSkreechathena: ok05:18
athenaDaSkreeh: any new ideas05:18
ober0nenevermind, it's finally worked05:18
the_hammerlol05:19
the_hammerthey been hanging all day05:19
stdinDaSkreech: all ATA drives are handled by libsata now05:19
DaSkreechathena: this isnt' a mediubuntu Cd?05:19
RictooI'm bored05:19
RictooAnything fun I can do on kubuntu>?05:19
athenano it says ubuntu 6.0605:19
ober0ne:o05:19
DaSkreechRictoo: Amarok :)05:19
Rictoo=/05:19
stdinRictoo: play frozen-bubble, that's always fun05:19
RictooSomething other than Music =p05:19
DaSkreechathena: hmm ok can you make a backup of that file05:19
Rictoofrozen-bubble?05:19
ober0neyeah, one thing I didn't like about kubuntu was no games05:19
stdin!frozen-bubble05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frozen-bubble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
the_hammerRictoo kbfx superkaramba and beyrl :)05:20
DaSkreech!frozen-bubble05:20
stdin!info frozen-bubble05:20
ubotufrozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (feisty), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB05:20
RictooWhat's kbfx? =p05:20
carutsu!kbfx05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
athenaDaSkreeh: no sure how to do that05:20
athenaDaSkreeh: not sure how to do that05:20
Rictoogetting frozen-bubble atm05:20
Rictooit's 38mb05:20
DaSkreechober0ne: yeah they dumped the entier KDE games set05:20
RictooWhat is it, exactly?05:20
ober0ne*sigh*05:20
Rictoooh05:20
DaSkreechober0ne: it's one package install away though05:20
RictooI se3e :D05:20
Rictoosee*05:20
the_hammerkbfx lets ya beef up the looks can even ame your linux system look exactly like vista :)05:20
DaSkreechathena: just copy the file to somewhere safe05:21
diego_clthanks stdin... do you know any linux-native stand-alone aplication to see power point files ??05:21
athenaok05:21
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ober0nelol... more than one package for me... I'm installing dapper then upgrading to edgy, and then when my feisty cd comes in...05:21
DaSkreechathena: or make a copy of it in the same folder with a different name05:21
Rictoowow, I love Feisty........05:21
athenaDaSkreeh: done05:21
stdindiego_cl: i just searched for "powerpoint" in adept05:21
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ubuntusudo mount /dev/hdb1   ?05:22
athenadone05:22
ubuntuis that right?05:22
athenaDaSkreeh: done05:22
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g35cna someone help me with this, i ran the install script for thunderbird 2.0 and i get this error message: http://pastebin.ca/45087705:22
DaSkreech!easysource | athena05:22
ubotuathena: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:22
ober0neDaSkreech: I was recently using vista when it kind of died... I know the drives are good, but whatever they were using instead of boot.ini was corrupt05:23
athenaDaSkreeh: opening now05:23
ober0neis there a way to access the files on those drives?05:23
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RawSewagecool.  I got Beryl running super easy05:23
RawSewagehttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html05:23
mgaribaldihi05:23
DaSkreechober0ne: mount them05:23
ubuntusudo mount /dev/hdb1   ?05:23
stding35: tried running the installer again?05:23
ubuntuis that right?05:23
ober0nereally? Kubuntu has support for ntfs drives?05:24
DaSkreechubuntu: check if you have a /dev/sda105:24
RawSewagethis is crazy05:24
DaSkreechober0ne: for reading05:24
ubuntuhow?05:24
DaSkreech!ntfs05:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:24
ober0ne!fuse05:24
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse05:24
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DaSkreechubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sda1 mountpoint05:24
chipbuddyhello everyone05:24
DaSkreechubuntu: where are you mounting them to?05:24
ober0nethat's great05:25
DaSkreechathena: You are going to want the multiverse repos05:25
ubuntumy hard drive wond boot into kde so I am on the live cd05:25
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ubuntuI'm trying to back up my files, but cant access my drive05:25
chipbuddyso i'm actually using gnome, but this chat room is so much better than ubuntu i figured i'd try my question here05:25
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DaSkreechubuntu: Why won't it boot?05:25
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DaSkreechchipbuddy: heehee don't let them know05:26
athenai think so but i cannot save the file to the sources list05:26
athenafolder05:26
chipbuddyi'm trying to get avi files to play. can i just go through synaptic? or will it be more involved than that05:26
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DaSkreech!codecs | chipbuddy05:26
ubotuchipbuddy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:26
DaSkreechathena: i know05:26
ober0neok, another question... I was talking to LjL earlier and he/she told me to do something about a sudo something something dist-upgrade05:26
Rictoothe_hammer: What Vista theme for kbfx did you use?05:26
DaSkreechcan you pastebin it so I can read it?05:26
ubuntuwell, I rebooted and left the room........ I come back and my 3 year old is sitting in my chair with a big grin on his face05:26
chipbuddyyeesh... i'm a software engineer, and when i saw "!codecs" i read in my head "not codecs"05:26
DaSkreechchipbuddy: Yeah took me a while too05:27
stdinchipbuddy: avi isn't a real format, it's just a container, it's probably some win codec, so try the w32codecs package05:27
DaSkreechstdin: high% it's xvid or divx05:27
chipbuddyok, thanks guys... or girls... people05:27
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DaSkreechchipbuddy: what about the robots? they don't get love?05:28
ubuntugotta go, the wifey is seducing me with a lovely outfit05:28
ober0nego get 'er05:28
DaSkreechubuntu: hohoho05:28
RictooWhat kbfx theme do you guys recommend?05:28
chipbuddydaskreech silly daskreech, robots can't love05:28
DaSkreechchipbuddy: So you gotta give love to get?05:28
chipbuddyrictoo: for for the smurf theme!05:28
Rictoosmurf? :O05:29
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ubuntusorry guys............... the pc can wait til tomorrow05:29
chipbuddyyeah, it probably doesn't exist... but that would be awesome05:29
Rictoowoah, was that a coincidence......?05:29
athenaDaSkreeh: how do i copy the updated file to the etc/apt/sources list folder?05:29
ober0nelol05:29
Rictoo222850  chipbuddy rictoo: for for the smurf theme!05:29
Rictoo222901  Rictoo smurf? :O05:29
Rictoo222907 this.join = new Join("redsmurf", n=redsmurf@61-229-42-150.dynamic.hinet.net, #kubuntu);05:29
RictooThat was a wierd coincidence............05:29
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the_hammeri cant remember but i got from kde-look.org to short cut it in the search there look for vista05:29
DaSkreechathena: I would like to check it first can you put it on pastebin?05:30
athenaDaSkreeh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16714/05:30
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DaSkreechathena: wonderful05:31
DaSkreechathena: you are on kubuntu correct?05:31
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HobbseeDaSkreech: looking05:32
HobbseeDaSkreech: what about it?05:32
athenaubuntu using gnome05:32
DaSkreechHobbsee: that's the entire sources.list05:32
athenadoes the k stand for kde?05:32
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Jack3hmm05:33
HobbseeDaSkreech: so they're running medibuntu, not ubuntu, so can be sent to wherever medibuntu does support.  looks like dapper+additions05:33
DaSkreechathena: alt+F2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list -> password -> paste file and save05:33
DaSkreechathena: KDE05:33
Jack3both gparted and partition magic give me erorrs when trying to resize my NTFS windows disk05:33
Jack3is it cause i need to deFrag?05:33
DaSkreechJack3: try defrag it05:33
Jack3yeh im doin so now05:33
Jack3just gonna take a year05:34
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uziphola05:34
uzipk tal05:34
diego_clhola05:34
soulrider!es05:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:34
uzipquien m,e puede ayudar05:34
soulriderhola :)05:34
DaSkreechathena: plus you get us :) we are way nicer than the ubuntu folks :)05:34
DaSkreechdon't tell them though :)05:34
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DaSkreechathena: got the editor?05:34
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uzipalguien que me diga como instalar los driver de sonido de una dell gx105:35
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soulrider!es | uzip05:35
ubotuuzip: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:35
athenaDaSkreeh: just updated the file05:35
DaSkreechHobbsee: apparently there is a magazine handing out "ubuntu" cds with that05:35
DaSkreechathena: Ok you should be able to follow the wiki page now05:36
unix_infidelok, the mini iso doesnt seem to be working.05:36
HobbseeDaSkreech: wouldnt surprise me.  they should call it medibuntu though05:36
diego_cl!magic point05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about magic point - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
unix_infidelis there a way i can possibly do things the way debian does its netboot iso?05:36
DaSkreechthat's what I was thinking05:36
diego_cl!magic_point05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about magic_point - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
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diego_cl!magicpoint05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about magicpoint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
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DaSkreech!minimal05:36
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:36
unix_infidelDaSkreech: as i mentioned the mini.iso doesnt seem to be booting.05:37
DaSkreechunix_infidel: there is a way to get the Alternate to do that as well05:37
DaSkreech!netboot05:37
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:37
unix_infidelDaSkreech: how exactly?05:37
Dr_willisany sort of net isntall - will be real slow at this time.05:37
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DaSkreechunix_infidel: ^^^^05:37
RictooOW05:38
RictooFROZEN-BUBBLE IS SO FUN05:38
DaSkreechDr_willis: Dirt slow05:38
ober0neok, so how do I mount sata drives in dapper?05:38
DaSkreechRictoo: have you played multiplayer?05:38
Rictoonope05:38
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stdinnow THAT is cool05:38
DaSkreechober0ne: /dev/sdn#05:38
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ober0nehow do I know the sdn#05:38
Rictooim not good enough for multiplayer yet :)05:38
ober0nelike sda1 or such05:38
The_MachineHow do i change the time FROM military time in Fiesty?  :/05:38
sonoftheclayrwhat is a good ripping app?05:38
DaSkreechober0ne: /dev/sd<tab><tab>05:39
The_Machineregular 12 hour time is better :)05:39
DaSkreechsonoftheclayr: Amarok05:39
DaSkreechor k3b05:39
ober0nehuh?05:39
stdinsonoftheclayr: k3b and amarok05:39
DaSkreechooohooh05:39
sonoftheclayrthanks05:39
ober0neI'm sorry... I'm still really new05:39
DaSkreechsonoftheclayr: a Audiocd ripper?05:39
DaSkreechober0ne: you are mounting from the command line?05:39
ober0neyes05:40
ober0neoddly enough I don't know how to do it from the gui05:40
The_Machineanyone?  help with the time?05:40
DaSkreech!tab | ober0ne05:40
ubotuober0ne: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:40
athenaDaSkreeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but cannot run the apt part returns an error05:40
DaSkreechober0ne: tab auto completes the lines for you05:40
ober0neohhh cool05:41
DaSkreechathena: What error?05:41
ober0nedos didn't do that05:41
ober0ne:D05:41
DaSkreechheehee05:41
Dr_willismy dos did :)05:41
ober0neok, when I tab I get a beep05:41
athenaDaSkreeh: hold on05:41
DaSkreechober0ne: Did it twice?05:41
stdinThe_Machine: you mean the clock in the system tray?05:41
ober0neyes, I got two beeps05:41
DaSkreechober0ne: Probably don't have a sata drive then05:42
ober0nebut no autocomplete05:42
The_Machineyes, stdin..  it's 24 hour format05:42
The_Machinewould like 1205:42
ober0nethey're both sata05:42
The_Machinei can't figure out how to change it05:42
athenaDaSkreeh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16719/05:42
stdinThe_Machine: Right click the clock, click Date & Time Format, go to the Time & Dates tab05:43
ober0nethe hardware is the easy part... it's the software that buggers me up05:43
Dr_willisyou have to restart KDE to get the clock to realize that its changed..05:43
Dr_williswhichis sort of silly. :) or restart that clock some how.05:43
ober0neonce you start making it think, there's a problem05:43
stdinThe_Machine: use the dropdown list in the "Time format" part to change it05:43
DaSkreechober0ne: does /dev/hd<tab><tab> give you anything?05:43
stdinDr_willis: restart kicker05:43
ober0nejust a beep05:44
stdinDr_willis: that would do it05:44
Dr_willisyea - i never can rember how to do that. :)05:44
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ober0neno characters or anything05:44
DaSkreechathena: did you do a sudo apt-get update ?05:44
Dr_willisi guess im just weird in that i think the clock should  see the format changed and restart. :)05:44
athenaDaSkreeh: via terminal05:44
stdinDr_willis: either "killall kicker && kicker" or "dcop kicker kicker restart"05:44
ober0neI'm working on a fresh install of dapper... very fresh05:44
Dr_willisor at least have a time settingformat just FOR the clock. not having to use the kde-wide time format.05:44
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DaSkreech!tab | athena05:45
ubotuathena: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:45
DaSkreechathena: yes in the terminal05:45
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The_Machinehmm05:45
athenaDaSkreeh: So what am i doing wrong?05:46
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unix_infidelis there a way to do a server install using the alternate cd?05:47
flakeI'm runnin 6.10, it says 7.04 is available and I can upgrade - if I do, will it wipe my php/apache settings among other stuff?05:47
stdinunix_infidel: i think it gives you the option at the boot menu05:47
Dr_willis!java05:47
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:47
soulriderflake: i dont see why it would wipe them05:47
stdinflake: no, it will just upgrade05:48
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DaSkreechathena: you did the audo apt-get update ?05:48
flakeok  thanks05:48
athenaDoing it know05:48
Duder29has anyone successfully installed kubuntu 7.04 on a microsoft virtual machine?05:49
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Duder29im getting a destorted black screen at the login prompt05:49
DaSkreech!microsoft05:49
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:49
athenaDaSkreeh: ok it has completed05:50
zerothis!equivalents05:51
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant05:51
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athenaDaSkreeh: please see results  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16721/05:51
Rictoomeh05:51
g35stdin, yeah i did, can anyone help me with this error i get when i try running the mozilla thunderbird install script: http://pastebin.ca/45087705:51
Rictooat lvl 20 of frozen-bubble, I got tired05:52
Rictoolol05:52
Rictoo=/05:52
yotuxCan anyone point me a the direction of a good place to find out how to create iptables rules?05:52
stdinRictoo: I've compleated it before (level 100)05:52
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Rictoowow05:52
Rictoonice :O05:52
stdintook forever tho :p05:52
ober0ne*sigh* all I want is my sata drives05:53
DaSkreechathena: so the codecs installed?05:54
Rictoook05:54
RictooNow that I played frozen-bubble, what other games are there? :S05:54
Rictoo:D*05:54
the_hammerif your wanting libdvdcss and w32codecs try automatrix2 :)05:54
stdinNO05:54
stdindon't05:55
Dr_willisick.05:55
stdin!automatix05:55
ubotuAutomatix2 is a CLOSED SOURCE script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:55
athenaDaSkreeh: just finished do i need to reboot?05:55
Dr_willistheres no need to use automatix  much if at all.. from what ive seen in feisty.05:55
DaSkreechathena: no05:55
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g35!thunderbird05:55
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042705:55
stdin!games05:55
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:55
DaSkreechathena: you can pretty much assume that yuo don't need to reboot05:55
purpleposeidon!nethack | Rictoo05:56
athenaok let me test it then05:56
Dr_willisGotta love Closed source 'scripts' :)05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
DaSkreechRictoo: are you on Kubuntu?05:56
the_hammerworks for me ive never had any problems with it05:56
purpleposeidonawwww, you FAIL, ubotu05:56
the_hammernot even when i ran edgy05:56
g35stdin, yeah i did try to run it again05:56
Rictoodennister: Yes05:56
DaSkreechchipbuddy: how goes?05:56
stding35: was it the same output the 2nd time, or different ?05:56
RictooDaSkreech: yes*05:56
g35same05:57
DaSkreechRictoo: have adept open already?05:57
soulrider!software > uzip05:57
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Dr_willis:)05:57
RictooI just use apt-get in konsole ;)05:57
stding35: got a link to the install script ?05:57
g35sure05:57
DaSkreechRictoo: alt+space -> type adept -> enter05:57
the_hammerthis is horrible05:57
the_hammerhttp://pastebin.ca/45091705:57
RictooDaSkreech: Why?05:57
DaSkreechathena: how are you?05:57
RictooWOW05:58
g35https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion05:58
DaSkreechRictoo: To amuse me :)05:58
RictooALT+SPACE IS SO COOl05:58
RictooWHEN DID THEY ADD THAT05:58
the_hammerstuff like this is gonna make ppl turn away from 7.0405:58
athenaDaSkreeh: Working like a treat thanks for all your help much appreciated..05:58
DaSkreechathena: sure05:58
HobbseeRictoo: ages ago.  most pepole dont know05:58
Rictoo:O05:58
Rictooit's awesome05:58
g35wtf is alt+space?05:58
DaSkreechRictoo: ok so is adept open?05:58
Rictooyeah05:58
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DaSkreech!katapult | g3505:58
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ubotug35: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:58
the_hammerheck with it ive had enough im scrappin this05:59
the_hammerbbl05:59
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amigravehow can I disable the "remote shares" icons to appear on the desktop when a samba share is mounted? I desactivated it in desktop behaviour but they are still there05:59
DaSkreechRictoo: You see where it has tags? Smart available and all ?05:59
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Rictooyeah05:59
DaSkreechOk go to all and scroll down to use05:59
DaSkreechExpand that and look for gameplaying05:59
g35cool05:59
RictooCOOOL06:00
RictooTHANKS <306:00
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DaSkreechRictoo: drag the word gameplaying to tags that I want06:00
DaSkreechit will filter out all non game apps06:00
RictooI figured it out :)06:00
Rictoo;DD06:00
RictooAWESOME <306:00
Rictoosome of the files have a kubuntu logo next to them06:00
DaSkreechif you want to be leet you can drag the needs gnome to tags I don't want :)06:00
Rictoowhat's that mean?06:00
themanmike!bugs06:00
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:00
DaSkreechRictoo: means they are officialy backed by Kubuntu06:01
Rictoook06:01
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Rictoowhere is the 'needs' tag06:01
nixternalanyone else having issues with amarok and feisty?06:01
DaSkreechnixternal: Hmm it's been a while since I opened amarok06:01
pierre_upgraded to feisty and the sound is gone...:-(06:02
DaSkreechnixternal: I know that I had to re apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:02
nixternalit is just sittin' and spinnin'06:02
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nixternalnah, no need for extra-codecs06:02
nixternalthis is a fresh feisty 64 install06:02
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Rictoorolldice: "A virtual dice roller"06:02
RictooW T F06:02
RictooWho would use that? :\06:03
Shiftydoes anyone know how you get the view of the cube as if you're looking at a box?06:03
Shiftyin beryl?06:03
Rictooyou mean from the outside?06:03
DaSkreechRictoo: DND FTW!!06:03
Shiftyyes06:03
RictooIt's in the settings somewhere06:03
DaSkreechShifty: turn on the cube plugin06:03
Shiftyhaha I know, there's a million of them. I'm sorting through them now.06:03
RictooDaSkreech: DND?06:03
Rictoo..\06:03
DaSkreechD&D ?06:04
RictooD&D ?06:04
Rictoo...06:04
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RictooWhat are you talking about? :D06:04
DaSkreechRictoo: you are so un geekish :)06:04
KrimreaperHow do I install ubuntu 7.04 with a Ati Radeon X850 XT when it i get a blank screen on install ?06:05
RictooDaSkreech: Unfortunately :(06:05
stding35: you sure you ran it again, the output couldn't have been the same06:05
ober0nedoes anyone know how to upgrade dapper to edgy through command line?06:05
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DaSkreechKrimreaper: try it with safe graphics mode?06:06
DaSkreech!upgrade06:06
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:06
Krimreapertried it06:06
Krimreaperdidnt work06:06
DaSkreechober0ne: Lke that ^^^ with some obvious changes06:06
DaSkreechKrimreaper: Hmm alternate cd?06:06
ober0neok, that works06:06
ober0nethank you... I looked for like half an hour for something/anything06:06
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Krimreaperit also wont work for ubuntu 6.10 and the support site says my graohics card is compatible06:07
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DaSkreechKrimreaper: really should work then.06:08
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DaSkreechMight be something else06:08
matrix_how can i fetch my emails using fetchmail and have them marked by spamassassin?06:08
DaSkreechKrimreaper: the alternate CD will most likely work though06:08
ober0neok, so I tried to run the command it told me to, and my computer told me it had no clue what I was talking about06:09
Krimreaperwhat do u mean by the alternate cd06:09
DaSkreech!alternate06:09
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.06:09
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Krimreaperyeah well even when i install it on an alternative computer i still cant boot ubuntu with the video card06:10
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Rictoocrap06:11
Krimreaperit doesnt make much sense but could it be something about the sus motherboard06:11
DaSkreechKrimreaper: no :-) I meant use the alternate Cd :)06:11
RictooI used the blast program and now there are holes in my irssi06:11
Rictoo-.-06:11
KrimreaperASUS motherboard06:11
DaSkreechKrimreaper: It's not a live cd so It doesn't care what video card you have06:11
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sixty_mlsober0ne: what comman did you run?06:12
stdinober0ne: follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUpgrade06:13
stdinsixty_mls: I'm thinking "!upgrade"06:14
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Krimreaperwhat i dont get is that this video card is supposed to work with 3D accelaeration and everything but it wont work on my computer06:14
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eakbashow do I upgrade from dapper to feisty?06:16
ShaddoxHi everyone.06:16
DaSkreechKrimreaper: I'm sure it can but live Cd's aren't magic06:16
stdineakbas: you have to upgrade to edgy, THEN feisty06:16
DaSkreechClose06:16
DaSkreechbut not quite06:16
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eakbasdaskreech: ok, then how do I proceed?06:16
ShaddoxI'm a new Ubuntu user, but I'd like to try out the KDE environment. Can anyone tell me what's special about KDE and such? I don't feel like looking it up and feel like making more friends anyways. :D06:17
DaSkreecheakbas: stdin  is correct06:17
Krimreaperk ill try that then06:17
DaSkreechShaddox: Near everythign is special06:17
stdineakbas: follow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUpgrade then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:17
ShaddoxDaSkreech: I'm using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, so I'll be sure to see h ow, but what's special about it?06:17
DaSkreechShaddox: more power and looks better  Neater applications and you get to hang out with us06:17
Doctor_Nickok06:17
DaSkreech#kubuntu is the real draw :-)06:18
Doctor_Nickso how do i do everything that automatix does without using automatix :/06:18
eakbasdaskreech:thank you06:18
DaSkreechShaddox: it's really just KDE with the ubuntu philosphy applied to it06:18
Doctor_Nickplus KDE is way better than gnome ;d06:18
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DaSkreechShaddox: What do you like about gnome?06:19
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stdinit's for dumb people :p06:19
nu-Whenever i click a hyperlink in konversation, it opens with bluefish. anyone know how to make it open with firefox?06:19
ShaddoxDaSkreech: It's Simble. So is Kubuntu still ubuntu, but with KDE instead of Gnome? Or is it completely seperate?06:19
Doctor_Nickshaddox: the first one06:20
ShaddoxDoctor_Nick: Ah, is it compatible with regular Ubuntu?06:20
stdinnu-: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> General -> use custom web browser. put "firefox " in there06:20
DaSkreechShaddox: first guess is right :)06:20
ShaddoxSweet06:20
ShaddoxAt least here people talk to me06:21
ShaddoxI tried to get help in #ubuntu and got completely ignored for 3 hours X_x06:21
DaSkreechShaddox: see told you that #kubuntu rokks :)06:21
HobbseeShaddox: it has lots of people.  that happens :P06:21
ShaddoxSo you guys already got bonus points06:21
Doctor_Nickthats because it moves way faster06:21
nu-stdin: thanks man06:21
g35stdin, hey06:21
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ShaddoxWhat about compatibility with windows-only programs Steam and XFire?06:21
radioaktivstormhello, I am trying to fix my settings in gnome, kde seems to have overridden the color and theme settings. i figured out how to fix the theme, but for some reason; the color of the window border is not working.06:21
ShaddoxCause ubuntu botches both, X_x06:21
radioaktivstormit stays the same color06:21
DaSkreechShaddox: Same :)06:22
ShaddoxGah06:22
ShaddoxWell then06:22
DaSkreechShaddox: you tried Wine ?06:22
ShaddoxI'll need to keep cedega06:22
stding35: I got the error you did the 1st time, not the 2nd tho06:22
DaSkreechcedega would be the way to go06:22
ShaddoxYeah06:22
ShaddoxBut I can't afford it06:22
ShaddoxTorrents are my friend :D06:22
ShaddoxThat and FINALLY having my DNS set up :D06:22
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ShaddoxIdid06:24
DaSkreechOh06:24
DaSkreechanyone here from England?06:24
ShaddoxWine botched my friends list, DaSkreech06:24
ShaddoxIn XF06:24
ShaddoxAnd would absolutely refuse to let Steam run06:24
DaSkreechShaddox: Yeah that' happens sometimes. It'll get better06:24
stdinDaSkreech: Birmingham here06:26
ShaddoxWell06:26
ShaddoxOnce I install package kubuntu-desktop06:26
ShaddoxHow do I run KDE in a seperate window06:26
ShaddoxSo I don't have to reboot and lose my touchy connection06:26
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stdinShaddox: why would you have to reboot to load kde?06:27
DaSkreechstdin: Do you remember a BBc program that took someone out of their job and trained them to do something totally different and then a bunch of experts had to pick out if he was fake or not?06:27
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g35stdin, yeah me too, i got it thansk06:27
nicolashello06:27
ober0nehow does one go about getting an update manager?06:27
ShaddoxCause I'm a linux noob. :D06:27
DaSkreechShaddox: You can just logout and back in choosing KDE06:27
ShaddoxErm06:27
DaSkreechShaddox: do you have xnest installed?06:27
ShaddoxXnest? Yeah06:27
DaSkreechsweet run it06:27
dsmithwhen I run sudo apt-get update, nothing hapens06:27
ShaddoxI use it to log in as root in Gnome to change perms on files i need now and then06:27
DaSkreechIt shoudl give you a login screen06:27
dsmithi am vnc'd on a remote machine06:27
stdinDaSkreech: vaguely06:27
DaSkreechstdin: remember what it was called?06:28
nicolasI need to make a shell script with sudo..but i want that the password petition autocomplete...06:28
ShaddoxI couldn't get my remote logins working X_x06:28
nicolasI need to make a shell script with sudo..but i want that the password petition autocomplete...SOME HELP??06:28
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stdinDaSkreech: nope, sorry06:28
DaSkreechnicolas: make a new user and give them passwordless sudo06:28
DaSkreechrun the script as that person06:28
dsmithwhat wouls stop apt-get from updating?06:28
stdinnicolas: you could just run the script with sudo06:28
radioaktivstorm:( can does anyone know how to fix this issue with the colors?06:28
ShaddoxSo wait06:28
DaSkreechdsmith: one hundred million computers hitting the servers ?06:28
ShaddoxI just run 'xnest'?06:29
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dsmithoh!06:29
DaSkreechShaddox: sure06:29
dsmithI forgot06:29
dsmithhaha06:29
dsmithstil????06:29
DaSkreechtell me when the login comes up06:29
dsmith*still06:29
DaSkreechdsmith: till this time next week06:29
dsmithwait, let me revise my question06:29
stdindsmith: try to find a "less known" mirror06:30
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DaSkreechMy friend is trying to get the PS3 iso and it's going at 5k06:30
dsmithwhen I apt-get update, on my laptop it asks for a password and runs the script06:30
dsmithon this remote box nothing happens it just to a blank prompy06:30
dsmith*prompt06:30
dsmiththats what I was referring to06:30
g35stdin, i installed thunderbird and it said successfully installed and now when i run it, it wont work06:31
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dsmithi never see repos fly past06:31
g35you know what i thought would be a good idea for KDE or any OS, automatic tab word completion, like a cell phone but it autocomples when you press tab06:31
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stding35: what happens when you try to run it?06:32
g35it says thundebrird loading then it just doesnt do anything06:33
g35then the thunderbird running icon just goes away06:33
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stdintry running it in konsole, to check for errors06:33
stdin"mozilla-thinderbird"06:33
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g35yep, nothing06:33
athenaDaScreeh:   How do configure RPD for incoming request?06:33
stding35: try "thunderbird" then06:34
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g35nothign either06:34
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dsmithg35, thunderbird runs fine on my machine, what version?06:34
Doctor_Nickhow do i set up kubuntu so that it automatically detects and mounts ntfs partitions06:34
stdindsmith: 2.006:34
dsmiththats the latest ver.06:35
Hobbsee!mount | Doctor_Nick06:35
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dsmithhmmmmm06:35
ubotuDoctor_Nick: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:35
Hobbseeshould do it by default06:35
Doctor_NickI have an external usb drive06:35
Hobbseehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions is better06:35
dsmithg35, try removing the program06:35
DaSkreechdsmith: you don't have sudo privilges on the laptop06:35
dsmithI do, but this other machine something is not right06:35
DaSkreech!tab | g3506:36
ubotug35: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:36
dsmithg35: try removing thunderbird from Konsole06:36
DaSkreechdsmith: on the other machine if you are doing a sudo something and it's not doing it then you don't have rights06:36
DaSkreechdsmith: are you near the faulty machine?06:37
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dsmithI understand that. No its in Houston, TX06:37
dsmithlol06:37
dsmithone sec.06:37
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dsmithon my laptop sudo apt-get update asks for password06:38
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dsmithon the other machine it wont do it06:38
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DaSkreechdsmith: and nothing flies by06:38
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dsmithno06:38
dsmiththat is whats baffling me06:39
ShaddoxDaSkreech: Hm, I have xnest for gnome nested logins, but for some reason I can't just run xnest.06:39
g35dsmith, why should i remove it? you mean reinstall it?06:39
DaSkreechdsmith: do a sudo echo I r root06:39
ShaddoxEr...it gives me an error.06:39
DaSkreechShaddox: oh?06:39
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dsmithg35: yes06:39
zerothiswhat irc should i go to to get cdemu working?06:39
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dsmithbash: r not found?06:40
dsmithdont you mean, sudo echo | root06:41
ShaddoxDaSkreech: Server is already active for display 006:41
Shaddox        If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock06:41
Shaddox        and start again.06:41
DaSkreechno sudo echo "i r root"06:41
dsmithoh06:41
DaSkreechShaddox: hmm ok06:41
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dsmithok it took the cmd06:42
dsmithnothing happened06:42
DaSkreechdid it echo back ?06:42
ShaddoxDaSkreech: I can't log out, unfortunately, cause if I try, my display will botch up completely till I reboot.06:42
dsmithnothing06:42
DaSkreechShaddox: sounds like you need to fix X :)06:42
DaSkreechdsmith: You don't have sudo then06:42
dsmithok06:42
dsmithso I log out log in as admin and add him as sudo?06:42
dsmiththat would explain why06:42
DaSkreechdsmith: that wasn't the first user on the machine I'll warrant06:43
stdinShaddox: use "Xnest :1" (the :1 means open on display 1 (the 2nd one))06:43
dsmithyes, we have a default main06:43
DaSkreechdsmith: well all other new users are not  added to the admin group06:43
dsmithhmmm06:43
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DaSkreechlogin as that user and add whoever you would like to be able to adminisiter the box to the admin group06:44
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DaSkreechdsmith: they get full sudo rights06:44
dsmithok, once I install the progs they need06:44
dsmiththen I can go back and remove then06:44
dsmiththx06:44
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Shaddoxstdin: Thanks it worked. :D06:44
DaSkreechdsmith: Hmm?06:44
stdin:)06:45
ShaddoxDaSkreech: Now, Xnest is up, now what?06:45
DaSkreechShaddox: You should have a option that says sessions ?06:45
dsmithlog off, login as full admin06:45
DaSkreechdsmith: remove what?06:45
dsmithI understand now06:45
DaSkreechdsmith: You don't need to log off06:45
dsmithI'll figure it out06:45
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DaSkreechyou can su06:45
ShaddoxDaSkreech: No, it's what X looks like when there's no GUI loaded, the X cursor on the greyscale screen.06:45
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dsmitheh?06:45
dsmithoh!06:45
DaSkreechsu adminuser06:45
stdinShaddox: try "DISPLAY=:1 startkde&"06:45
Doctor_Nickwhy doesnt kubuntu have hal automatically installed06:45
DaSkreechthen run the commands06:45
Shaddoxstdin: Huh?06:46
Shaddoxstdin: So what do I need to put into my console?06:46
dsmithok06:46
stdinShaddox: that should start KDE on display :1 for you06:46
stdinShaddox: just type: DISPLAY=:1 startkde&06:46
stdinShaddox: exactly as shown06:46
reldruhhello. I mounted some pictures using sshfs and the mount went successfully but when I try to open the pictures in any program, even konqueror it's incredibly slow. Gwenview took a full 5 minutes to open a single picture but it all works fine if I access them over fish:/. Does anybody know why that happens or how I can fix it?06:47
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ShaddoxWHOOPS!06:47
ShaddoxI hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace06:47
ShaddoxBut my display didnt glitch06:47
ShaddoxSo now I'm in KDE06:48
ShaddoxLooks neat so far ^^06:48
dsmithok, when I type su06:48
stdinoh well, even better :p06:48
dsmithit asks for passwd06:48
anyoHi guys! How can I get my right ALT key working in Kubuntu 7.04 ?06:48
dsmithwell, its not taking any of the passwds06:48
dsmith:(06:48
Shaddox^^06:48
ShaddoxYeah, i like it so far06:48
DaSkreechdsmith: what did you type in ?06:48
DaSkreechjust su ?06:48
ShaddoxBut the bottom bar reminds me way too much of Windows X_x06:48
dsmithat the prompt06:48
dsmithsu06:48
DaSkreechdsmith: it's su username06:49
stdinShaddox: change it then06:49
DaSkreechso su adminuser06:49
Dr_willisEgads!  a bottom bar! :)06:49
DaSkreechand then put in the password for adminuser06:49
Shaddoxstdin: I've never even seen KDE till now. No idea how. X_x06:49
DaSkreechShaddox: grab it and drag it to the top06:49
Dr_willisdrag it to the side. :)06:49
ShaddoxAhh, neat. ^^06:50
stdinShaddox: Right  click it, -> Configure panel06:50
DaSkreechdsmith: works now?06:50
stdinShaddox: there are SOO many options your head will explode :p06:50
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dsmithone sec, kinda slow over vnc06:50
DaSkreechdsmith: eek ssh ftw ! :)06:51
anyoHi guys! How can I get my right ALT key working in Kubuntu 7.04 ?06:51
Dr_willisvnc to ssh, to ssh back. to vnc again. :)06:51
Doctor_Nickok, after installing hal and pmount, its still not mounting06:51
Dr_willisHmm my right alt key works.06:51
dsmithsu (admin) passwd worked06:52
DaSkreechanyo: wonderful question06:52
anyoDr_willis: doesn't work ......... didn't work in edgy either06:52
ShaddoxO_O06:52
ShaddoxSo far im liking this ^^06:52
DaSkreechdsmith: neat so you can then install whatever you want there06:52
anyoI thought it would work in 7.0406:52
dsmithok thx a bunch06:52
anyoI guess I have to change some setting but I have look and no luck06:52
Dr_willisanyo,  i woudl guess either the kleyboard is broken.. or you got some keyboard/language setting.06:52
DaSkreechdsmith: if you are super lazy you an su (username) -c command to run06:53
ShaddoxWill Cedega work in KDE?06:53
DaSkreechShaddox: sure06:53
anyolanguage setting ... what should I choose ?......... keyboard is fine in suse06:53
Dr_williscedega can work with just X and no window manager at all. :)06:54
Dr_willisanyo,  try american/english?06:54
ShaddoxEr06:54
ShaddoxBut Cedega is generating strange errors now...06:54
dsmithwow, this persons DSL connection is slow06:54
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dsmith:(06:54
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dsmithssh ftw?06:54
Dr_willisCedega is good at generating strange messages06:54
dsmithI am running ssh06:54
neurovoreHello, again guys...06:55
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ShaddoxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16906:55
Shaddox  Major opcode:  14806:55
Shaddox  Minor opcode:  306:55
Shaddox  Resource id:  0x006:55
ShaddoxFailed to open device06:55
ShaddoxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16906:55
Shaddox  Major opcode:  14806:55
Shaddox  Minor opcode:  306:55
Shaddox  Resource id:  0x006:55
ShaddoxFailed to open device06:56
DaSkreech!paste | Shaddox06:56
ShaddoxI've never seen that before X_x06:56
ubotuShaddox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:56
stdin!baddevice | Shaddox06:56
ShaddoxEh, I know I know06:56
ubotuShaddox: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:56
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Dr_willisShaddox,  thats  just a warning from the wacom tablet thats in the xorg.conf file06:56
Doctor_Nickugh06:56
Shaddoxokay06:56
Dr_willisShaddox,  you can ignore that.06:56
Shaddoxbut is it good bad or harmless or what. X_x06:56
Shaddoxokay than06:56
Doctor_Nickok, pmount mounts my usb drive, but i have to do it EVERY TIME i plug it in06:56
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Doctor_Nickis there a more elegant solution06:56
Doctor_Detroit:)06:56
Shaddoxso what's the main difference between KDE and GDM?06:56
Dr_willisor edit it out of the xorg.conf06:56
Dr_willisKDM = login manager for kde. GDM = login manager for gnome.06:57
DaSkreechShaddox: one is a desktop and one is a login screen06:57
stdinShaddox: GDM is a display manager, KDE is a desktop environment06:57
ShaddoxEr06:57
makuseruwhen i upgraded from Edgy lastnight i got 5 packages saying they didnt install correctly, i have been googling all day, and have tried various things with adept and dpkg and cant get them to install correctly, can someone please help me (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16726/ error report)06:57
ShaddoxI meant Gnome and KDE >.<06:57
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Dr_willis:)06:57
neurovoreI was trying to format my other hard drive last time I was here...I suddenly had to leave, so I did not quite get what all I had to do. I have never formatted a hard drive in either windows or Linux before, so any help would be appreciated.06:57
Dr_willisYou can install gnome and kde both on the same box and try them both out06:57
stdinShaddox: KDE is more configurable (with GUIs too)06:57
Shaddoxi did06:57
Shaddoxbut im not smart with linux06:57
Shaddoxive only used it for a week X_x06:58
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Shaddoxmostly server stuff on my server machine06:58
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Dr_willisthe login screen has a 'menu' you can use to select gnome, or kde. try them out.. have fun. :)06:58
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Shaddoxi did06:58
Shaddoxthats how i got into kde on accident ^^06:58
Jack313hey guys, im trying to use the gparted on the live disc to resize my windows partition06:58
Jack313and i keep getting this damn error to check filesystem for possible errors06:58
Jack313and ive done check disk /f and defrag06:59
Doctor_DetroitQuestion: is sun-java6-jdk ok to install?06:59
neurovoreI have one hard drive that I am running linux on...it is about 60 gb in size, then I have the one that I want to format that is 500 gb in size. I just want to use it for startage space.06:59
DaSkreechneurovore: What do you want to format it to?06:59
Shaddoxokay so now i know alot about kubuntu, what's xubuntu?06:59
Doctor_Detroit..or should I use 1.5.0.0806:59
Doctor_Detroit!xubuntu06:59
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels06:59
DaSkreechShaddox: A slowly growing mass :(06:59
neurovoreHow do I set it up so that its icon appears on my desktop and so I can use it purely as a file storage disk?07:00
ShaddoxX_x07:00
Shaddoxbut what is it?07:00
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Doctor_Detroitxbuntu, is for lowend machines07:00
neurovoreUnlike my original PATA drive that I have Linux on, this is a SATA drive.07:00
Dr_willis!xubuntu07:00
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels07:00
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DaSkreechShaddox: xfce is a lightweight desktop07:01
DaSkreech!xfce07:01
Shaddoxah.07:01
Shaddoxokay, well i suppose i should check out kubuntu DVD-iso downloads07:01
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DaSkreechShaddox: however I think the project has outgrown it's purpose07:01
Dr_willisi dotn see much point in the dvd-downloads.07:01
ravancan i make kpdf use acroread's fonts?07:01
DaSkreechShaddox: why? you just installed it07:01
Shaddoxi know07:01
Shaddoxbut i need to do a clean install/format07:01
DaSkreechIt's the same thing :)07:02
Shaddoxi have too much crap i've tried to do and failed at07:02
DaSkreechShaddox: Did you learn from it?07:02
Shaddoxno07:02
omegabetaQuestion: I chose to upgrade Kubuntu to fesity from efty but it got to around an hour left and told me it needed te restart services or some such from a list? and that i should reboot or something.. i was not quite sure, So I rebooted but now kubuntu is broken and when i log in it just reatarts x back to the login, if i simply put the fiesty (ubuntu)disk in will that let me install and keep all files?07:02
DaSkreech:-P07:02
Shaddoxnoone helps me out till i came in here :/07:02
DaSkreechomegabeta: it boots but you can't loginto kde ?07:02
neurovoreDaSkreech: I can wait until you are finished with Shaddox if you are busy.07:03
omegabetait logs in to kde for 5 seconds then quickly restartx back to the login07:03
DaSkreechShaddox: Well when you reinstall see if you can make a /home partition07:03
ShaddoxDaSkreech: For what?07:03
DaSkreechomegabeta: May be some setting try moving your .kde folder07:03
DaSkreechShaddox: it's very useful.07:03
ShaddoxI can't even get torrent.ubuntu.com to come up07:03
makuseruwhen i upgraded from Edgy lastnight i got 5 packages saying they didnt install correctly, i have been googling all day, and have tried various things with adept and dpkg and cant get them to install correctly, can someone please help me (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16726/ error report)07:03
omegabetathe thing is, the install can not have finished, as there was still an hour left of the update when the prompt came up initially that i rebooted from07:03
DaSkreechShaddox: used Windows before?07:03
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ShaddoxDaSkreech: I used to windows till last week.07:03
kalorin`anyone know what happens if you put ddr2 ram in a machine that usually only runs ddr?07:04
kalorin`specifically an athlon64 machine07:04
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DaSkreechmakuseru: normally I just delete the cache files and reinstall07:04
omegabetaso its bound to be broken, can i just install the ubuntu fiesty cd and chose an option to keep all my files etc?07:04
DaSkreechomegabeta: then finish the install from the cli07:04
ToydHello, how can i install kiba dock on kubuntu?07:04
omegabetahow can i finish the install? i cant get in to kde07:04
Toyd!kiba dock07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
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makuseruDaSkreech: how do i do that07:05
DaSkreechShaddox: ever put all your data on one drive so when you have to reinstall Windows you can just format and not worry about losing all your data ?07:05
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DaSkreechmakuseru: you know which 5 packages it is?07:05
makuseruyes07:05
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DaSkreechomegabeta: can you get to the command line ?07:05
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kalorin`wow, DDR2 800 ram for $104 for 2gb07:05
ShaddoxDaSkreech: No, not really.07:05
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DaSkreechmakuseru: find them in the folder /var/cache/apt/archive and remove them07:06
ShaddoxI never had to format till i screwed ntoskrnl.exe up last week and decided to try linux07:06
DaSkreechShaddox: how many times have you reinstalled windows ?07:06
DaSkreechOh wow :)07:06
ShaddoxCept now i can't get to the torrent place to get kubuntu dvd :/07:06
DaSkreechShaddox: you hve the ubuntu live dvd ?07:06
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Shaddoxno07:06
Shaddoxi have ubuntu on regular CD07:06
Shaddoxit was all i had at the time. ^^07:06
DaSkreechlive ?07:06
Shaddoxi bought DVD's last week07:06
Shaddoxso i can burn a dvd-rom07:07
DaSkreechthe desktop cd ?07:07
Shaddoxyeah07:07
DaSkreechAh ok :)07:07
DaSkreechWell I'm going to bed07:07
DaSkreech night all07:07
Kubuntu_noobwhy not dl from www.kubuntu.com?  too slow?07:07
neurovoreGoodnight.07:07
ShaddoxI want the DVD image.07:07
ShaddoxNot just regular CD07:07
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ShaddoxI want to finally have a reason to burn a dvd, lol07:08
Kubuntu_noobthey have it there don't they?07:08
DaSkreechthey should07:08
Shaddoxtorrent.ubuntu.com is not responding :/07:08
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Jack313DaSkreech, after running Defrag and chkdsk, I still cant Gparted to work07:08
DaSkreechShaddox: hammered07:08
Jack313it just says check filesys for errors07:08
Jack313so i want to try and use the force command on NTFSresize07:09
DaSkreechumm07:09
DaSkreechthat's outside my knowledge :)07:09
Jack313:907:09
ShaddoxThis is the website it links me to07:09
Shaddoxhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/07:09
ShaddoxBut for some reason it fails to come up07:09
ToydHello, how can i install kiba dock on kubuntu?07:10
Toyd!kiba dock07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
Toydkiba dock please some one07:10
Toydkiba dock where is it07:10
Toydi want the kiba dock please07:10
Toydplease it looks so kewl i got to have it07:10
Toydhelp me please someone07:10
Toydwhy was i ignored07:10
neurovoreSince Daskreech is going to bed, does anybody else know anything about adding a second hard drive under Linux?07:10
Toydplease i beg of you07:10
Toydkiba kiba07:11
DaSkreech!info kiba-dock07:11
ubotuPackage kiba-dock does not exist in feisty07:11
DaSkreech!dock07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:11
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DaSkreech!search kiba07:11
ubotuFound:07:11
DaSkreechstupid bot07:11
Dr_willisneurovore,  power down.. plug it in.. fdisk it. format it , mount it.07:11
DaSkreechDr_willis: he (assuming it's a he) has never formatted anythign before07:12
neurovoreWhat do you mean by fdisk?07:12
DaSkreechJack313: how are you connected to irc ?07:12
Dr_willistheres a large # of 'adding drives to linux' howtos out that cover the basics.07:12
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Dr_willisneurovore,  use fdisk, or gparted to 'partition' the drive07:12
Dr_willisgparted can also format the drive07:13
neurovoreHold on...07:13
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khaije1after the network-scripted upgrade from edgy to fiesty my computer won't boot, the last message i see on the screen is "fsck exited with a status of 1"07:13
khaije1any ideas what could fix this?07:13
Dr_willishmm there was some sort of disk manager tool out also.. but never used it.07:14
Shaddoxugh07:14
Shaddoxforget it07:14
Shaddoxi give up >.<07:14
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DaSkreechDr_willis: alt+space -> system -> press enter -> disk and filesystems07:14
Dr_williskhaije1,  the drive may of gotten currupted? boot the isntall cd. go to the console and try fscking the drive manually?07:14
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  seems i dont have katapult running by default :)07:15
DaSkreechDr_willis: I should kick you :)07:15
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  this is a fresh install of feisty - seems its not enabled by default07:16
DaSkreechDr_willis: system settings has a Disk management07:16
DaSkreechDr_willis: blaaaasphemy!07:16
khaije1Dr_willis: ya, i sucks because i didn't have that much time to work with it before i had to go to work07:16
Jack313DaSkreech, through the ubuntu LIve CD07:16
neurovoreIt is listed under disk and file systems as ST3500641AS_MBP07:16
Dr_willissystemsettings->advanced tab -> disk & filesystems07:16
Jack313my hdd is fine07:16
DaSkreechJack313: So that's Xchat then ?07:16
Jack313Konversation07:16
DaSkreechJack313: ah ok then press F2 and add a new server07:17
DaSkreechmake the server name irc.gnome.org07:17
DaSkreechand connect to it07:17
DaSkreechjoin the room #gparted07:17
neurovoreDr_willis: I am in it now.07:17
Jack313thanks daskreech07:18
DaSkreechby typing /join #gparted in the line07:18
Jack313yeh i know how to use irc :P07:18
DaSkreechJack313: they would be the best people to help if they are awake :)07:18
Jack313alright cool07:18
Toydwhere can i ask about kiba dock which channel?07:18
Toyddoes anyone can help help me bitte please leute ich mein it really good07:18
Dr_williscould go to the kiba-dock homepage and see what irc channels they got - if any07:18
DaSkreechJack313: if you don't mind getting geeky then you can ask in #parted on freenode07:19
Dr_willisor just try #KDE07:19
DaSkreechToyd: this one can help07:19
DaSkreech!find kiba07:19
Toyd!find kiba07:19
ubotuPackage/file kiba does not exist in feisty07:19
Toyd!find kiba07:19
DaSkreech!find kiba-dock07:19
neurovoreDr_willis: So now that I am under disk and file systems and looking at the system setting of my drives, what should I do?07:19
ubotuPackage/file kiba-dock does not exist in feisty07:20
Dr_willisneurovore,  you proberly Should read some tutorials on partitioning of hard drives, if you are not carefull you can erase your system07:20
Dr_willisneurovore,  if using gparted. theres a pull down menu to select the drive to parttion. then just use the 'new' button to make a new parttion or 2.07:21
Dr_willis!find libphysfs07:21
ubotuFound: libphysfs-1.0-0, libphysfs-dev07:21
khaije1Dr_willis: i was more just wondering if this is a known issue or if there has been a correlation w/ the upgrade07:22
Dr_williskhaije1,  what issue? i muse of missed somthing. :)07:22
DaSkreechToyd: try kxdocker07:22
Dr_willisi always do clean installs ;)07:22
khaije1Dr_willis: my machine suddenly not booting after the upgrade07:22
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ToydDaSkreech,  i want kiba-dock perse07:23
Toydkiba rulez07:23
Dr_williskhaije1,  could be a lot of things that could do that.07:23
Dr_willisToyd,  go get the source then i guess.07:23
khaije1Dr_willis: i actually didin't intend to do a net upgrade, it was sorta an accident07:23
Dr_williskhaije1,  heh heh :)07:23
Dr_williskhaije1,  gotta hate whwn that happens.07:23
neurovoreHold on...okay, sorry for the confusion...the hard drive that I am trying to format is a hard drive that does not have anything on it. I have Kubuntu on another hard drive. I just heard from somebody that you have to format a hard drive before you can use it. I just want to use this other hard drive for storage under Kubuntu.07:23
Dr_willisneurovore,  if its TOTALLY empty and not partitooned.. it must be 'partioned' befor you can even format it.07:24
Dr_willisneurovore,  fire up gparted. select the new drive. delete any partitions on it (if any) be SURE you pick the right hd. then make a new partition, format it.07:24
neurovoreWhat is "gparted"?07:24
khaije1Dr_willis: no doubt, it's horrible UI design, if you click yes anywhere on the popup request it cannot be cancelled, which is just wacky07:24
Dr_willis!gparted07:24
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:24
Shaddoxwell im getting kubuntu07:24
Shaddoxsee y'all when im done :D07:24
Dr_willisneurovore,  or learn to use the 'fdisk' command. or the other partitning tools07:25
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Dr_willisneurovore,  or try the KDE partitoning tool07:25
pingveno_I'm having a bit of a problem with installing cvs. The package is broken, so I'm reinstalling. apt-get install cvs totally freezes my computer. I think it might be filesystem because some odd messages are printed to vt1.07:25
neurovoreWhat is the KDE partioning tool called?07:25
Dr_willissystemsettings->advanced->Disks & Filesstems07:25
Dr_willisnot sure if that tool can partition. it may just be for mounting stuff07:25
unix_infidellol, so far tonight, feisty has frozen a total of 4 times in vmware.07:25
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unix_infidelduring the initial install process!07:26
neurovoreOkay...it does not seem to have an option for partioning...let me go with the fdisk command...hold on...07:26
Dr_willisbut at least it will show you the layout of your hard drives07:26
Dr_willisgparted is proberly easier to use. :)07:26
Dr_willisdo you know what 'device' the new hd is on?07:26
neurovoreI do not have gnome.07:27
Dr_willisneurovore,  you can just install gparted :)07:27
Dr_willisits almost too handy to not have.07:27
neurovoreHold on...07:27
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dave_mchello can someone give me some quick help with emerald07:29
neurovoreAnyway...to make a long story short, my motherboard has both serial slots and PATA slots...I wanted to put empty hard drive as a slave to my other one, but then I saw that I could not connect it to my original hard drive without getting an adapter. However, I noticed that I could just plug it into one of the serial ports on the motherboard.07:29
dave_mcberyl loads fine but emerald dont seem to have any themes so i get no window borders07:29
neurovoreSo both my hard drives are by themselves and listed as "master".07:30
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Dr_willisneurovore,  it has a 'device' like /dev/hda or /dev/sda and so on for each device. you need to be sure you are formating the correct drive07:31
Dr_willisneurovore,  'sudo fdisk -l' should show all drives and their partitons and devices07:32
neurovoreOkay...I am running gparted now.07:32
neurovoreMy unused disk is being called "unallocated".07:32
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Dr_willisneurovore,  yep.. thats correct.07:33
Dr_willisits not in a partition so its unallocated07:33
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dave_mcwow the system keeps saying adept is running but its not07:33
neurovoreSo I just go to "add partition"?07:33
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Dr_willisyep07:34
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ShaddoxHi everyone, how do I burn things to a CD?07:34
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Dr_willis!k3b07:35
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto07:35
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Toyd!nero07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
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fakepatriotcan someone help me out? whenever beryls trie to start up i get  a 'composite manager failure' error? i don't know how to fix it...07:35
Toydshame on you ubotu07:35
ShaddoxNero is windows-only, windows fails. X_x07:35
Toyd!Nelson Mandela07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nelson mandela - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
Shaddox!flamethrower07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flamethrower - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
ShaddoxD:07:35
ToydWhat the hell its your mascotte ubotu07:35
Toydshame on you07:35
Dr_willistheres a nero-linux07:35
themanmikehelp, kubuntu won't recognize my 2nd cd drive07:35
ShaddoxI must make my own irc bot that knows stuff about flamethrowers! :D07:36
Toyd;p07:36
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themanmikeanybody?07:36
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neurovoreDr. willis: It will not let me make a partition using all of the size on the drive.07:36
Dr_willisthemanmike,  edit the fstab file and add a entry for it.. or perhaps try the 'disks and fileysystems' settings tool.07:36
Dr_willisneurovore,  and how much is it not letting you use?07:37
themanmikeDr_willis: where is the file?07:37
fakepatriotplease someone...i really need help...07:37
Shaddoxokay07:37
Shaddoxboes K3b support writing data files?07:37
Dr_willisthemanmike,  in /etc/07:37
Shaddoxcause im not burning music ^^07:37
themanmikek07:37
Dr_willisShaddox,  of course.07:37
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Shaddoxi am burning music, i mean, but not as an audio CD07:38
Shaddoxim making a backup DVD, and then im gonna format and install kubuntu feisty07:38
Dr_willisShaddox,  you can backup data files to cd/dvd with k3b quite easially.07:38
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shogoukikubuntu FF is damn good :)07:38
neurovore465.7507:39
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neurovore465.7507:39
Dr_willisits not letting you use 465mb?07:39
neurovoreIt says that maximum is 476938, but when I enter in that value under the "free space preceeding" box, it reduces the partition to07:39
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Toydlol my pc is entangled ;/07:39
Dr_willisneurovore,  use the sliders perhaps? not entering #'s07:39
neurovore465.7507:39
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fakepatriotwhenever beryl tries to startup i get  a 'composite manager failure' error? can someone please help?07:39
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neurovoreHold on...07:40
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Toydweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee07:40
neurovoreFixed it.07:40
Toydyioppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee07:41
dave_mcso does anyone know how to fix emerald so i can get some themes?07:41
Toydwhere is nalioth when you need him07:41
robotgeekToyd: why do you need him?07:41
Toydnalioth knows everything about kubuntu07:41
neurovoreNow I have two more questions that are software related, and quite a stupid ones.07:41
Toydrobotgeek, help07:41
Toydnalioth is the best07:42
robotgeekToyd: can you ask your question please?07:42
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Dr_willisneurovore,  after partitioning the drive. tell it to 'format' then you need to use the 'apply' (or was it save) button to do the actual changes07:42
Toydi want to install kiba-dock on kubuntu cant find a decent tutorial via google07:42
neurovoreApply...and now it partitioning the drive.07:42
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Shaddoxhi everyone again07:42
Toydhi07:42
neurovoreDr willis: Do you have time for my other two questions?07:42
Toyd:OD07:42
Shaddoxi put in a blank DVD but k3b and kde dont say i have a blank DVD inserted07:42
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Dr_willisneurovore,  sure why not.. :)07:43
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robotgeekToyd: this seems to have a deb here, http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Feisty/07:43
prakhow do i upgrade from edgy to feisty using a cd?07:43
robotgeek!upgrade07:43
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:43
neurovoreFirst one...how do I run flash applications under the firefox browser...I keep getting the green plugin symbol for flash stuff.07:43
Shaddoxim on 7.04 dailt build. X_x07:44
Toydthanks robotgeek07:44
dave_mcdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.07:44
dave_mcthats what i get when i try to install emerald-themes07:44
robotgeekdave_mc: sudo dpkg --configure -a :)07:44
dave_mcjust did that07:44
dave_mcget same message07:44
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Dr_willisneurovore,  install flash :)07:44
Dr_willis!find flash07:44
artabrahaoin console how can I chance ip, netmask, gatway and dns?07:45
ubotuFound: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)07:45
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Dr_willis!flash07:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:45
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash07:45
robotgeekdave_mc: even after dpkg --configure -a?07:45
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neurovoreI thought that I did install flash already but it does not seem to be working...07:45
dave_mcno it worked when i just tried it again07:45
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Dr_willisyoy may need to restart the browser after installing it07:45
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dave_mcberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3207:46
dave_mcberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3207:46
dave_mcberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3207:46
dave_mcnow i get these errors07:46
neurovoreThe computer was shut down since then. I installed it yesterday. I downloaded a program that is called "flash plugin-nonfree". That might not have been the right one.07:47
themanmikeDr_willis: how do you edit it?07:47
Dr_willisneurovore,  sounds right to me.. i installed that just recently and it worked. not sure what to do to doublecheck/make it work however.07:47
themanmikeDr_willis: the fstab file07:48
neurovoreWhere I go looking for it? I cannot find it in the menu.07:48
Dr_willisthemanmike, its a text file. that must be edited with root prviliges. (back it UP first also!)07:48
Dr_willisneurovore,  flash is a firefox plugin. it dosent have a menu item.07:48
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themanmikeDr_willis: yes, i know, but what do you add?07:48
Dr_willisneurovore,  see if youtube.com works. it may be the site you are trying07:49
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Dr_willisthemanmike,  depends :)    could look and see  what entry it has for your other cd. and copy/edit it.07:49
themanmikejust a sec07:49
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neurovoreIt works...never mind, I was confusing it with something else.07:49
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neurovoreThis brings me to my next question...what do I use to play wmv files?07:50
themanmikeDr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16742/07:50
Jack313ugh07:50
themanmikeDr_willis: Line 16 is my edited one07:50
Jack313I wish I could just freken resize my damn partition so i can install kubuntu07:50
makuserui had to get my sources from source-o-matic but it dosnt have the repos for universe and multiuniverse, how can i get thoes repos?07:51
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Dr_willisneurovore,  i would take .wmv files and drag them to the trash. :)07:51
kruepkeartabrahao: you use the 'ifconfig' command for ip/netmask, 'route' command for gateway, and update /etc/resolv.conf for dns07:51
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Dr_willisthemanmike,  save it and see if it works. :)07:52
neurovoreI wish, but when you have an embedded wmv file in a website that you are trying to view, it presents a problem.07:52
Dr_willisthe mplayer plugin for firefox might let you see it.07:52
Dr_willisi cant recall the last site i saw that used wmv's embeded..07:52
Dr_willisi tend to avoide such sites. :)07:53
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themanmikeDr_willis: I did, rebbot, nothing07:53
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Dr_willisthemanmike,  you dident need to reboot.07:53
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themanmikeDr_willis: wasn't sure07:54
Dr_willisthemanmike,  try popping in a cd and see if you can mount it.07:54
Dr_willismanually, or from the systemmenu/places thing.07:54
neurovoreOkay..Dr. willis, here is my third question...how do I create an icon for my other hard drive on my desktop?07:54
XsecretsAnyone had or know about problems with the at package in fiesty?07:54
dave_mchmm wont install java plugin for firefox adept keeps giving errors yaaay07:55
jonathan__hi!07:55
jonathan__add me please!07:55
jonathan__pribadi111@yahoo.com07:55
jonathan__I want to learn more about ubuntu07:55
Dr_willisadd you where?07:56
Doctor_Nickugh07:56
Dr_willisneurovore,  make a shortcut/link from /media/whateveryoumounteditas to the desktop07:56
Doctor_Nicki installed everything in the medibuntu repository but my divx movies still aren't playing07:56
jonathan__add ne at pribadi111@yahoo.com07:57
jonathan__hello dr_wilis07:58
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jonathan__nice to meet you@07:58
dave_mcberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3207:59
dave_mcany help with this please?07:59
themanmikeDr_willis: nope08:00
jonathan__hi!08:00
jonathan__add me please08:00
jonathan__if you can using linux08:00
jonathan__add me08:00
Dr_willisthemanmike,  may want to check some of the mount howto/docs - you may be usign the wrong device for the cd08:01
jonathan__pribadi111@yahoo.com08:01
themanmikeDr_willis; ya, k08:01
Dr_willisjonathan__,  you realize that most people in here proberly dont want to use yahoo messenger.08:01
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jonathan__oh...08:01
Dr_willisthats why they are on irc. :)08:01
jonathan__maybe msn?08:01
jonathan__I'm using kopete08:01
Dr_willisif you want to learn more about linux and ubuntu. the ubuntu/kubuntu homepage/wiki is the place to start reading.08:02
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jonathan__yep08:02
jonathan__what is your e-mail?08:02
Dr_willisyou dont need my email08:02
jonathan__why>08:02
Dr_willisexactly.. WHY...08:02
jonathan__ha208:02
jonathan__I want to ask you a question08:03
Dr_willisbgates@msn.com08:03
jonathan__ok08:03
Dr_willisyouve had time to ask several. :)08:03
jonathan__why when I'm using private messages08:03
jonathan__I can't chat to the other people?08:03
jagerbecause it's private?08:04
Dr_willisbecause you dont have your Nick registered with the nickserver08:04
Dr_williswould be my guess08:04
neurovoreDr willis: what does "mount" mean under disk and file sytems?08:04
jonathan__how to register?08:04
jagerhaha nice08:04
jageri get it08:04
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Dr_willisnote the MOTD when you joined. :) or try /msg nickserv help08:05
jonathan__can u ?08:05
Dr_willisneurovore,  a partition has to be 'mounted' to be accesable to the system.08:05
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Dr_willisneurovore, the drive is mounted to a directory known as the 'mount point'08:06
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dhilip89hello, i'm first time using kubuntu08:06
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neurovorewhy does it keep calling it /proc?08:06
Dr_willisneurovore,  /proc is a SPECIAL directory08:06
IchilegendWelcome dhilip8908:07
Dr_willisnot sure what you are looking at.. :) but you dont want to mount your hd to /proc08:07
dhilip89i have a question08:07
jonathan__I'm lucky to install kubuntu on my virtual pc08:07
Ichilegendshoot08:07
unix_infideljonathan__: exactly.08:07
unix_infideli gave up after the installer crashed 4 different times.08:07
jonathan__hi unix_infidel08:07
neurovoreWhat should I mount as being if I am only using it for a storage device?08:07
jonathan__what crashed?08:08
Dr_willisi find vmware works nicely08:08
jonathan__what di u installed?08:08
jonathan__yes08:08
dhilip89is it possible to apt-get install kde 4.0 pre-release for testing08:08
unix_infidelDr_willis: i was using vmware.08:08
jonathan__I'm usong vmware too08:08
Dr_willisneurovore,  /media/whaeveryouwanttocall it08:08
Dr_willis'virtual pc' - isent that the MS product. then theres vmware, and  VirtualBox as alternatives08:08
jonathan__yes08:08
jonathan__I'm using vmware08:08
jonathan__it's good08:08
Dr_willisi find vmware works better for me.08:08
jonathan__I'm already add you dr_wilis08:09
neurovoreDoes it matter if it says "disabled" by it?08:09
Dr_willisneurovore,  disabled inples to me that its not enabled. :)08:09
IchilegendI don't think  youcan apt-get it using built in sources08:09
Ichilegendmaybe someone out there has built it, but why not compile it?08:09
jonathan__somebody in this room using msn or irc?08:09
Dr_willisneurovore,  enable the thing. and see if your root user can access the drive.08:10
Dr_willisjonathan__,  we are all using IRC.08:10
Dr_willis:)08:10
neurovoreWhen trying to enable it...it says /proc under the configeration thing....08:10
dhilip89thanks for answer..08:10
jonathan__ow...08:10
Dr_willisneurovore,  i think it wants you to enter a mount point08:10
jonathan__I don't know08:10
jonathan__it's my first time using linux08:10
dhilip89why don't use KVM ?08:10
jonathan__what is KVM?08:10
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Dr_willisneurovore, so type in /media/newdrive (you may need to make the newdrive directory first) sudo mkdir /media/newdrive08:11
dhilip89http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine08:11
Dr_willis!mount08:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:11
jonathan__one more wuestion for all08:12
jonathan__how to installing a software from terminal?08:12
Dr_willis!apt08:12
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:12
Dr_willisjonathan__,  read all about apt and the apt-get system.08:12
Dr_willissudo apt-get install mc08:12
Dr_williswould be an example to isntall 'mc'08:12
Dr_willis(and yes mc is worth installing and learning to use) :)08:12
jonathan__I'm just only know to login via root08:13
jonathan__ha208:13
jonathan__sudo -s -H08:13
Dr_willis!sudo08:13
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:13
IchilegendDr_willis, you think it is still worth learning mc?08:14
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Dr_willisIchilegend,  yes.08:14
jonathan__dr_wilis, what is your real name?08:14
jonathan__are u an adminstrator?08:14
Dr_willisit can make some annoying jobs real nice.08:14
Dr_willisjonathan__,  nope.. not an admin.08:14
Dr_willisand i give ya one guess what my 'real' name is. :)08:14
IchilegendOk, I am helping to write an official linux cert test this comming week, maybe i will add mc08:14
jonathan__...08:15
Dr_willisIchilegend,  its just a darn handy and powerfull tool.08:15
jonathan__what is your name dr_wilis?08:15
Dr_willisyou just spelt it wrong. :)08:15
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jonathan__it seems you are can handel linux very well08:15
Dr_willisright click on a nick and see what info your irc client gives you.08:15
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Ichilegendi could see that on the gnu distros, but k/ubuntu is heavily graphical08:15
Dr_willisjonathan__,  and ive learnd most all of it by reading, reading, and reading more.08:15
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jonathan__wow08:16
dhilip89is there anybody who is running linux on usb ?08:16
Dr_willis Ichilegend  nothing like 'mc' and 'screen' to make your ssh sessions soooooooooo nice. :)08:16
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kalorin`well apt-get and dpkg form the package management for several distributions08:16
omegabetaMy issue : http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/blindraven/fesity.jpg08:16
jonathan__ok08:16
jonathan__so what clue of your name?08:16
jonathan__wilis?08:16
Ichilegendahhhh, yes through ssh.  Great combo i did not think of, thx!08:16
jonathan__william?08:16
Dr_willisjonathan__,  youve only read my 'name' about 200 times now. :)08:16
jonathan__omg08:16
jonathan__so this is your name08:16
jonathan__all of you!08:17
Dr_willisoriginal for a nick eh? :)08:17
jonathan__do you know linus torvalds e-mail?08:17
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Dr_willisjonathan__,  i imagine he has several email addresses08:18
kalorin`W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs:08:18
kalorin`B5D0C804ADB1127708:18
kalorin`W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:18
Dr_willisand i doubt if he uses Yahoo or msn08:18
dave_mcanyone having issues changing emerald themes?08:18
jonathan__yes08:18
kruepkeI agree with Dr_willis...use screen all the time.08:18
kalorin`any idea how to fix that?08:18
Ichilegenddhlip89, not on a usb yet since i haven't had many pc's that could boot usb and not support a full install08:18
kalorin`update doesn't08:18
jonathan__ha208:18
kalorin`it's a gpg key right?08:18
Dr_williswell it is bed time for me. Night all.08:18
jonathan__I must reading a lot of books08:18
jonathan__nighty night!08:18
dhilip89but now i'm using full install on usb08:18
Dr_willisjonathan__,  theres tons of online sites with info.08:18
kalorin`night willis08:19
IchilegendSweet, how is it working?08:19
jonathan__ok08:19
jonathan__do you know how to install mac os x on your pc?08:19
dhilip89i uses external harddrive08:19
jonathan__?08:19
Ichilegendoh, ok, so not a thumb style usb drive?08:19
dhilip89needs atleast SSE2 on x8608:19
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dhilip89for MacOSX08:20
jonathan__I'm trying to install mac os x86 on my pc but fail08:20
jonathan__yes08:20
dhilip89not thumb08:20
jonathan__mine is sse, sse2, sse308:20
jonathan__and em64t08:20
dave_mcanyone else having issues changing emerald themes?08:20
dhilip89i have 1 Mac OSX x86 works correctly08:20
jonathan__ok08:21
jonathan__are u using msn?08:21
jonathan__or yahoo messenger?08:21
dhilip89msn08:21
jonathan__dhilip8908:21
jonathan__ok08:21
jonathan__what is your ID?08:21
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jonathan__I want to add you08:21
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omegabetaCould anyone please help with this issue - http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/blindraven/fesity.jpg08:21
dhilip89dhilip89 [at]  hotmail08:21
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jonathan__o dhilip8908:22
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jonathan__I already add you08:22
jonathan__can you online now on your ym?08:22
jonathan__oh!08:22
jonathan__msn08:22
sky90oh woops08:22
sky90didn't realze i was on08:23
Ichilegendomegabeta, what is the prob08:23
jonathan__ha208:23
omegabetachilegend - look at http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b143/blindraven/fesity.jpg08:23
sky90the first tab was giving me the nic name in use thing08:23
sky90and its my first time using this program08:23
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dhilip89i don't see you at gaim...08:23
Ichilegendk, i saw your jpg and what r u trying to do?  a new install or upgrade etc.?08:23
jonathan__me as well08:23
jonathan__?08:24
jonathan__I don;t know08:24
jonathan__it's an images08:24
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jonathan__maunal partition screen in feisty live cd08:24
omegabetachilegend - I tryed upgrading and it borked my whole edgy install, so now im just incerting the fiesty cd and seeing if i can install it "over" the broked edgy install but i must keep all my files etc on my broken install.. so i figured if i set the sda value in the manual part table to "/" it might install and keep everything?08:25
sky_sharki have a question where do i find a firewall and virus shield for Ubuntu 7.04?08:25
omegabetabut really, I have no idea08:25
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dhilip89jonathan__08:26
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dhilip89what is your msn screenname08:26
Criusi keep getting an error when i open Adept that another process is using the package system...how do i get rid of it (i tried restarting 3 times)08:27
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IchilegendCrius, have you done a command line sudo ps -A  ?08:27
Criusnopr08:27
Criusnope*08:27
jonathan__ Beryl Emerald Theme08:28
jonathan__i'm trying to download it08:28
Ichilegendtry it, llok for adept, synaptic, aptitude etc08:28
Ichilegendlook, not llok08:28
jonathan__but whay I can't apply this themes08:28
jonathan__http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+Green+Deviant?content=5670308:28
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jonathan__somebody help me08:28
sky_sharkhow do i find the firewall and virus shields for ubuntu08:28
Cosmo_when I run nvidia-settings and enable my second monitor in the server display configuration I click on the "save to X configuration file" and have it save it but when I restart it is back to the single display, how do I fix it to keep the settings?08:29
jonathan__please help me08:29
CriusIch, i found adept_notifier running, fo you think that is the problem?08:29
jonathan__hello08:30
jonathan__anubody in here!08:30
jonathan__anybody?08:30
Ichilegendnotifier, typically would not, but maybe it hung.  I would kill it and try adept again08:30
jonathan__help me somebody08:30
Criushow do i do that?08:30
jonathan__to install this things08:30
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jonathan__http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+Green+Deviant?content=5670308:30
Criusnvm got it08:31
icecruncher!update > icecruncher08:31
Ichilegendeasy way is sudo killall adept_notifier the other easy way is to get its PID number from the ps -A and kill it08:31
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jonathan__I'll back later08:31
jonathan__see u08:31
Ichilegendkool08:31
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jonathan__I'm trying to install another OS08:31
Criusim still getting the error08:31
flakeI just spent the past two hours upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04, it let me keep my php.ini file and a couple of others :)  I did have to jump a couple of hurdles but I have my nvidia card working and so far everything seems to be in place.08:31
Criusbtw i got the error after the POS crashed on me08:32
sky_sharki did a dual boot nstall so i can still use windows xp08:32
Noldoaranflake: congrats! What do you think of 7.04 so far?08:32
flakeenvy doesn't work with feisty btw, for anyone who cares - I had to download the NVIDIA*.run file from the nvidia website08:32
Ichilegendcould be a lock file error08:32
Ichilegendyou could simply remove the lock file08:33
flakehaven't taken it for a testdrive yet, looks similar to 6.10 and kept my settings08:33
Ichilegendlet me look up where apt leaves its lock file08:33
Criusummm, how do i do that?08:33
Criusok thx08:33
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Ichilegendsee if /var/lib/dpkg/lock exists08:35
Criusya it does08:36
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Ichilegendremove it and try again.  (copy it somewhere if u are worried and you will need to sudo the command)08:37
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icecruncher!adept fix| Ichilegend08:37
ubotuIchilegend: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:37
icecruncherIchilegend: will this work?08:37
Ichilegenduboto, that looks like a much more civilized answer than mine :)08:38
Criusohhh that worked ice08:38
Criusty08:38
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icecrunchernp08:39
Ichilegendboth were more civilized!  I come from an AIX/ Red Hat/Fedora background so this new fangled single line fixes are new to me! lol08:40
icecruncherlol08:40
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Ichilegendanyone here linux certified?08:41
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Dodger73hi all... just upgraded to feisty, and for some reason all GTK apps now seem to cause an X error08:42
IchilegendI ask 'cause I have to write some test questions and I a wondering what is relevant to today's linux08:42
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Dodger73The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.08:42
icecruncherIchilegend: sorry, no08:43
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Shaddoxokay.08:43
Dodger73for example firefox, beryl-manager, synaptic, etc - all the same error08:43
Shaddoxim now on Konversation, running from CD. :D08:43
ShaddoxHow do I format my hard disks completely, so I can install fresh?08:43
spawn57is automatrix usefule for kubuntu?08:43
icecruncherspawn57: I heard it messes up your depedancies quite bad08:43
dave_mcok now how to setup my samba printer08:43
Ichilegendshaddox, k/ubuntu will format during install if you choose08:44
Shaddoxah okay08:44
spawn57icecruncher: zomg!08:44
Shaddoxwell once i do, ill need a lot of help configuring and such.08:44
Shaddoxim stuck on a wireless connection ^^08:44
Shaddoxwired, rather. XD08:44
icecruncher!samba | dave_mc08:44
ubotudave_mc: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:44
Shaddoxanyways, brb, going to format/install now.08:44
Ichilegendenjoy08:44
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icecruncher!automatix | spawn5708:46
ubotuspawn57: Automatix2 is a CLOSED SOURCE script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:46
dave_mcwell i finally got beryl and emerald playing nicely along with correct res but now im getting fonts so small i need a magnifying glass to read anything08:46
spawn57!08:46
MenaHi08:47
Menai get this while configuring08:47
Menachecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp08:48
Menaconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:48
MenaSee `config.log' for more details.08:48
Ichilegenddave_mc have you tried the beryl-settings-simple package?08:48
IchilegendIt sets a good baseline that you can modify08:49
dave_mcit crashes everytime i try to run it08:49
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icecruncher!build-essentials | Mena08:49
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ubotuMena: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:49
Ichilegendi believe it, beryl is worth the effort but challenging08:49
Menaicecruncher, ok thanks08:50
Ichilegendespecially on KDE08:50
icecruncherMena, you need a cpp cpopiler, and "build-essentials" should cover it08:50
woodbI have a (probably) dumb question :)  Why does adept not adhere to the normal KDE theme when beryl is enabled08:50
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Doctor_Nickwhy is beryl worth the effort08:50
Doctor_Nickits just eyecandy?08:50
Menaok08:50
dave_mcits awesome for multi-tasking08:50
DisabledDuckDoctor_Nick: i think you just answered your question08:51
Ichilegendagreed Doctor Nick, but my motive is to convince friends and family that k/ubuntu is better than vista.  Eye candy goes a long way08:51
dhilip89i need unplug this usb ant boot to windows08:51
mkquisti like it, makes desktop switching n i c e . . .08:51
dhilip89bye to all08:51
dave_mcnow how to get flash working in firefox and konqueror08:51
Doctor_Nickk08:51
dave_mcjeez it takes a buttload of configuration to get kubuntu working right lol08:51
Ichilegenddave_mc 64 bit or 32?08:51
dave_mcamd6408:51
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ShaddoxEr,  hi again everyone.08:52
icecruncher!flash > dave_mc08:52
Doctor_Nickperhaps someone should ammend the automatix message to say that "There is a good chance that it will make your installation unable to update to the next version of ubuntu/kubuntu"08:52
ShaddoxI wanted to set up my partitions manually, to have a seperate section for /home, just in case.08:52
Ichilegenddave_mc, there are scores of articles written about this, bottom line is that 64 isn't supported by flas08:52
dave_mcit is if you load nspluginwrapper08:52
Doctor_Nickanyway08:52
icecruncherDoctor_Nick: yeah08:52
Ichilegendflash, so...Best recommendation is to install a 32 bit firefox08:52
DisabledDuck64 has a big problem with drivers/plugins sometimes...08:52
ShaddoxCan someone tell me how to use the partitioner with the Kubuntu liveCD installer?08:53
dave_mcLOL flash 9 works flawlessly in Sabayon and many other distros08:53
dave_mcnspluginwrapper is your friend :)08:53
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Ichilegendhey if it works for u, then you have an answer08:53
dave_mcthats what it was designed for to allow 32 bit apps to work on 64 bit systems08:54
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Ichilegendsweet, I'll peep it08:54
dave_mci dont see it on the repo's but i dunno all of them08:55
DisabledDuckwhat is a good FTP client?08:55
Ichilegendcommand lne08:55
ShaddoxCan someone help me set up my partitions in a private chat [so i dont spam the irc] ?08:55
icecruncher!ftp > DisabledDuck08:55
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premier_does anyone here know how eSATA works?  Like, for an external hard drive?  Is there plug and playness in linux, or do I have to reboot?08:56
DisabledDuckdoes anyone have a list of wireless laptop cards that will work in Ubuntu?08:57
Ichilegend@DisabledDuck, seriously if u want a graphical ftp client, go to add/remove programs and type ftp08:57
IchilegendThey should have lots of suggestions08:57
icecruncherIchilegend: true... lol08:58
icecruncherIchilegend: all though adept manager, on first impression sucks!08:58
DisabledDuckichilegend: i know, but that method does not exactly tell me a good client, it just tells me the clients offered08:58
IchilegendI use KDE, therefore konqueror for ftp and sftp.  It's good 'nuff08:58
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IchilegendDisabledDuck, if you are from a windows background, i am not sure if there is a "cuteftp" like program, but i am sure there is.  Or use cuteftp in wine09:00
Duder29man trying to set up kubuntu in virtual pc is a bitc*09:00
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Ichilegendgftp in gnome seems to be super popular09:01
codonilDisabledDuck: I use gftp, its pretty good09:01
unix_infideliirc, mc can do ftp09:01
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codonilIs there a guide that helps me upgrade using the command line? I have to use the --download-only argument since I have a slow connection09:02
unix_infidelncftp is very good as well.09:02
prakhow do i carry on from an interrupted package manager installation?09:02
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codonilthe wiki pages aren't loading, too much load on the servers I think :(09:03
Kubuntu_noobI am seriously guessing but apt-get with option for download?09:04
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prakyes09:04
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Kubuntu_noobman apt09:06
Kubuntu_noobman apt-get might help09:06
prakI'm trying to solve something that says:"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove, or upgrade software), b/c another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."09:07
jonathan__hello09:07
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icecruncheranybody know how to update from an alternate cd instead of the "gksu "sh /da/dada/dadd"09:08
jonathan__I want to ask u a question09:08
icecruncherjonathan__: just ask09:08
jonathan__how to share my documents09:08
jonathan__to windows09:08
jonathan__vis linux?09:08
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icecruncher!samba > jonathan__09:08
Ichilegendsamba09:08
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Kubuntu_noobXandrOS does that very well out of the box09:09
MenaHi09:09
Kubuntu_noobEven to XP09:09
MenaHow to delet a folder with terminal09:09
IchilegendHi Mena09:09
MenaIchilegend, Hi09:09
saxonjfIf I've downloaded kubuntu packages, how can I switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu?09:10
Ichilegend!rm > mena09:10
Ichilegendwell a folder !rmdir09:10
praksaxonjf, install kde?09:10
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prakwait09:10
icecruncherkubuntu-desktop i belive09:10
Kubuntu_noobMaybe XandrOS uses this Samba?09:10
saxonjfThere must be a command to switch desktops...09:11
Ichilegendyes icecruntcher et. al.  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  will do the trick09:11
ubuntuhi09:11
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saxonjfno gui feature?09:11
mkquistsazonjf - icecruncher is correct, then when u log in u have the option of 'desktops'09:11
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icecrunchermkquist: but youu need to install it first!09:12
saxonjfSo I have to log out and then log back in?09:12
mkquisticecruncher - i agreed w/u09:12
Ichilegendsure , F10 in gdm and the kdm has a menu to choose session09:12
ubuntuhow can I how the version of my Kubuntu please ?09:12
saxonjfI installed it via Synaptic09:12
icecrunchersaxonjf: did you go through a dialogue to choose between kdm and gdm?09:13
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DisabledDuckdoes anyone know what ports i need open to run an ftp server?09:13
ubuntuI'm not sure it Feisty, I had perhaps dl the edgy ISO Oo09:13
Dodger73DisabledDuck: 21 usually?09:13
Ichilegend21 and 2009:13
saxonjficecruncher: There was one, I chose gdm, and want that dialogue box back.09:13
Ichilegendmainly 2109:13
Red_Tear21 is just half the truth09:14
icecrunchersaxonjf: so you rebbot, then at login, you can choose09:14
Red_Tear;)09:14
Ichilegendlol09:14
ubuntusomeone can help me please ?09:14
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Ichilegendwassup ubuntu, we will try09:14
saxonjfhmmm... I'll have to try it...09:14
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Kubuntu_noobMaybe Kinfo center?09:15
Kubuntu_noob>ubuntu09:15
codonilI'm thinking of downloading the Feisty DVD. Can this be used for upgrading, similar to the alternate CD ?09:15
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prakhow do i unlock a locked package manager database?09:15
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MenaIchilegend, if i did that  sudo rmdir MyFile    should work right09:15
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icecruncher!adeptfix > prak09:16
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onadvdKubuntu_noob: kinfo ?09:16
Dodger73something is really fishy with my system now09:16
onadvdKubuntu_noob: kcontrol ? oO09:16
Dodger73The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error.09:16
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Dodger73that goes for several other apps as well09:17
Kubuntu_noobK Menu > System > KinfoCenter09:17
Kubuntu_noobBut it doesn't seem to have that info09:17
Kubuntu_noobHas X server version though09:17
Doctor_Nickugh09:18
Ichilegend@Mena09:18
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Ichilegendonly if it is empty09:18
Doctor_Nickis there a KDE version of the gnome volume manager?09:18
Ichilegendyou need to add -r to make it recursive to empty folder contents as well09:18
onadvdKubuntu_noob: perhaps I command line can give my the number?09:18
MenaIchilegend, so what to do if it there were fies into it09:18
Ichilegendrm -rf directory09:19
Menaok09:19
spawn57is there a way to change the shutdown menu back to what it was?09:19
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MenaThanks :)09:19
Ichilegendnp09:19
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Ichilegendspawn57, what was it like before?09:20
spawn57had a list with small icons instead of the big ones that are tehre now09:21
Kubuntu_noobubuntu I found a helpful version09:21
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Kubuntu_noobK Menu > System Settings > Help Menu > About KDE09:21
fakepatriotcan someone tell me how to get my trash can back on my desktop...or taskbar...?09:21
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Dodger73jesus, now beryl manager just crashes my X server09:22
saroj@fakepatriot...right click on the panel>Add Applet to panel..>trash09:23
Ichilegend@spawn57 KDE or gnome?09:23
spawn57kde09:23
MenaIchilegend, did you configure kbfx befor09:23
MenaIchilegend, bec i get this Msgfmt09:23
spawn57fakepatriot: right click the desktop, create a link to a url, and type in trash:/09:23
fakepatriotphew thanks...lol i feel dumb now09:24
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Menacompilling09:24
Ichilegend@Mena, afrain not on kbfx09:24
Ichilegendafraid09:24
Menaok09:24
heinkel_111can someone please give me correct url to a page where the feisty torrents can be downloaded from?09:24
spawn57heinkel_111: there's a lnk on thepiratebay09:24
Ichilegendthe interweb09:24
heinkel_111the one on the official kubuntu pages seems incorrect09:25
heinkel_111times out09:25
Menaheinkel_111, no its owrking09:25
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heinkel_111Mena: this page: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty09:25
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heinkel_111it always times out here :(09:26
Ichilegend@spawn57, not in KDE now, but isn't thewre a centrlized mgmt app that you could change settings?09:26
spawn57Ichilegend: not that I'm aware of09:26
Ichilegendseriously?  like kcontrol or something?09:27
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spawn57Ichilegend: not for shutdown menus09:27
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Menaheinkel_111, http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php go here choose the nearest country and you will find there09:28
Ichilegendoh, oh, oh oh, my bad.  Shutdown menus.  you say that they are really small text right?09:28
heinkel_111Mena: I wants the official links to the torrents09:28
heinkel_111Mena: if you click on the link to the torrents on that page09:28
heinkel_111Mena: it should bring you to: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty09:29
spawn57Ichilegend: naw, i just don't like the new menu, I prefer the older version =|09:29
icecruncherheinkel_111: torrents should be there09:29
heinkel_111Mena / icecruncher: but I just can't get that page to load...09:29
heinkel_111can you?09:29
Menaheinkel_111. no09:29
icecruncherheinkel_111: what page, as in the main page09:30
Menaheinkel_111. i dont get ou but if you want to download using teh torrent just do save as to the torrent and open it09:30
Kubuntu_noobwhats the equivalent of a dos autoexec.bat in linux?09:30
Menayou*09:30
Ichilegend@spawn57, sry i got nothin'.   Boot up fonts for me are microscopic in gnome, but KDE works09:30
spawn57Ichilegend: alrighty, thanks =] 09:30
Kubuntu_noobMy Kubuntu doesn't remember my iwconfig ESSID, Mode and Key when I reboot. . .09:30
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IchilegendKubuntu_noob, in KDE ~/.kde/Autostart09:31
Ichilegendadd a script there09:31
heinkel_111Mena: I know what to do _if_ I get the torrents downloaded, trust me, it is just that the kubuntu  page with the links to the torrents seem to be down....09:31
Kubuntu_noobthanks09:31
Kubuntu_noobcool09:31
Ichilegendhttp://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/1141449/kubuntu_7_04_fesity_fawn_dvd_i386_iso has the dvd torrent09:32
Menaheinkel_111, i dont see what is the difference BTW That page  http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php(this page is the official page for downloading kubuntu   and this one http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty09:33
Ichilegendhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is the direct link to the CD torrent09:33
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DisabledDuckhow do i add users using the CLI?09:35
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Ichilegend!useradd09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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icecruncher?joomla09:35
heinkel_111Mena: the first has the download links the second us a link from that page to a page where the torrentfiles can be downloaded09:35
Ichilegendhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ is working with all releses09:36
heinkel_111Ichilegend: you are helpful :)09:36
Kubuntu_noobthat .kde place that's a hider09:36
Kubuntu_noob: )09:36
Ichilegendyup, be on the look out for all .folder hiders09:36
Menaheinkel_111, you want to have all the torrents links into one page09:36
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Kubuntu_nooba script is just a file with commands in it right09:37
Kubuntu_noobno special name or line beginings?09:37
Ichilegend@heinkel_111 nothing less for the world's bet knife manufacturer09:37
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Ichilegend@kubuntu_noob  well, make the first line #!/bin/sh09:38
icecruncher!adduser | DisabledDuck09:38
ubotuDisabledDuck: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo09:38
heinkel_111;) - but your links are ubuntu not kubuntu :P09:38
IchilegendWhen you are done sudo chmod +x filename   the file09:38
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Ichilegend@heinkel_111 a ball buster eh?  ok my bad.  hold up09:39
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Maskdo you know very nice sex web site ???????????????09:40
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MenaThanks all bye09:41
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Kubuntu_noobThanks Ichi.  Gonna try that and reboot.09:41
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heinkel_111Ichilegend: i got it now from another source. Thank you. :)09:42
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Ichilegendhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/09:43
Ichilegendaw crap, they beat me :(09:43
dave_mcgot streaming video working now in both firefox and konqueror09:44
Ichilegendsweet dave_mc with the nspluginwrapper util?09:45
dave_mcberyl and emerald playing nice and fonts and resolutions fixed09:45
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dave_mcbuntu dont have it what they do have instead is a combination of about 30 different apps you have to install09:45
dave_mci had to install about half a gig worth of crap09:46
Ichilegendsheesh, my amd64 machine is running fedora 64 bit.  The 64bit stuff is easy on fedora09:46
dave_mcbut now everything works like its supposed to09:46
dave_mconly took 7 hours from install to finish :(09:47
Ichilegendnice, you should write a how-to09:47
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dave_mcwell just search for flash and java in adept and install everything you see09:47
Ichilegenddave_mc that experience is worth blogging for a digg or 209:47
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jussi01good morning all09:48
zerakgood morning09:48
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dave_mcoh ya dont forget to weed through all those licence agreements for sun and java too09:48
zerakanyone know what USB boot up does to your computer=09:48
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jussi01I have a small problem, Im trying to mount a samba share on my nas by right clicking on it and clickin g mount, however i get this message: Password:09:49
jussi01smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)09:49
jussi01smbmnt failed: 109:49
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Ichilegendjussi01 have you checked out: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/05/31/58-how-to-smbfs-smbmnt-must-be-installed-suid-root09:52
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Ichilegendread the comments as well, to help with your issue09:53
blekos_hello i have installed ubuntu (over Kubuntu) how can i uninstalled it (ubuntu?)09:54
zerakwhat did you do? installed gnome and its apps or?09:54
blekos_i had kubuntu and did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop so basically yes ...09:55
blekos_i want to remove it09:55
blekos_the sudo-apt remove ubuntu-desktop will only remove the dekstop component not the rest09:55
jussi01Ichilegend, thanks09:55
zerakyou should still be able to switch between ubuntu and kubuntu that is switch between gnome and kde09:55
blekos_yes i do that09:56
blekos_but i just want to remove the ubuntu components09:56
zerakif you installed by "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", try "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" or use purge09:56
Ichilegendsudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop09:56
blekos_i just installed it for testing purposes09:56
mkquistblekos - i believe the command would be 'sudo apt-get remove -purge ubuntu-desktop'09:56
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zerakanyone know anything about the flash boot up?09:57
Ichilegendjussi01 np!  yuroshiku09:58
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aldinhello people i am on 7.04!!! it is great!!! had to say this i am so happy!09:58
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blekos_i get E: Command line option p [from -purge]  is not known.09:58
zerakisnt it "sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop"09:58
Ichilegend@aldin  S W E E T!!!!!   Life is better as the king eh?09:58
aldinyeah09:59
zerakme wrong, sry09:59
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aldinso nice to see none upgrade yet!!!09:59
zerakhard to be able to upgrade10:00
zerakcant10:00
Ichilegendyeah, 7.04 finally got my crappy wireless working perfectly out of the box. Love it!10:00
zerakit fails, maybe due to the high demand10:00
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mkquistsudo apt-get --purge remove10:00
aldini cant iage what ot will be when kubuntu+kde4 !!!10:00
aldin*imagine10:00
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zerakaldin did you download the iso or did you use the update function?10:01
aldinanyone with ati X20010:01
pollyoaldin: What is kde4 about 7months away?10:01
aldinzerak: .iso final10:01
Mena!w32codecs10:01
Ichilegendi getcha, me and my buddy Linus prefer KDE and 4.0 is the M$ killer. n00bz10:01
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs10:01
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aldinpollyo: i dont know but i saw some oxygen icons, wooow10:02
Ichilegendhey @Mena10:02
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pollyoaldin: You get that excited over icons.10:02
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MenaIchilegend, HEY10:03
zeraknot just icons10:03
IchilegendThe modern Desktop has to have awesome icons10:03
aldinpollyo: hehe besides other things10:03
zerakto bad they havent changed the K -logo that KDE use as startup10:03
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zerakstartup menu to something like kubuntu10:04
IchilegendStep 1, just work.  Step, 2 look cool doing it.10:04
aldinIchilegend: yeah u are right icons should be great looking too10:04
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aldinwhy krita isnt on CD?10:04
pollyoThey do not need to make a new version of kde just for neat looking icons. <Grin>10:05
aldinpollyo: nevermind i just mentioned icons cause other things are hiden like new BMW or Mercedes hehe10:05
zerakkde v.4  isnt about icons10:06
Mena!codecs10:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:06
pollyozerak: What is it about?10:06
aldinpollyo: http://www.oxygen-icons.org/10:06
pollyoaldin: I'm not impressed with icons.10:06
zerakabout usability, think that are prepearig better support for beryl etc.10:07
zerakat least gnome doews10:07
Ichilegend@pollyo quite right, but honestly they are still catching up with MS.  Lots of changes emphasize the fact you will not lose functionality but instead will gain some10:07
aldinpollyo: ok, i am10:07
pollyoIchilegend: Catchin up with MS in what areas?  The area I see a need for catching up is primarily in driver support for things like printers.10:08
IchilegendUsability10:08
aldinjust install fglrx goint to try 3D... anyone had problems with 8.34 driver?10:08
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aldincause 8.36.5 is on ati.com10:09
zerakanyone got kubuntu:  feisty-dvd-i386.iso.torrent10:09
IchilegendIf you have used Vista/XP media center, you know the OS/ media integration is seamless10:10
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IchilegendKDE can get there and surpass it, but some of it has to be simplified10:11
pollyoIchilegend: The only usibility issue I see is not having gui configs for some applications.  But that is not always an issue.10:11
Ichilegendpollyo, not an issue for any one whe likes the command line.  To compete in the real world you need to be command line free like MS10:12
pollyoIchilegend: You are not going to have the same seamless nature because alot of those drivers will not be available for linux that are for media center cards/devices.10:12
IchilegendLinux is so close and Vista is so hard to use that it makes Linux look like the best thing out there10:12
pollyoIchilegend: That is what I thought you were saying as far as usability.10:12
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pollyoIchilegend: I can not say.  I do not have vista.  Though I know some people who are not vary computer savvy and they do not appear to have issues with vista.  Perhaps the need they have is so light that it does not maetter.10:13
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IchilegendWith Mac adopting BSD and running on x86 architecture, and PCs hitting the dev plateau linux is the real market leader in "What is next?"10:14
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shinobiIchilegend and the recent distros are really kicking a bunch of ass10:14
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IchilegendKDE is the easierst Windows to Linux transitional desktop.  I think 4.0 with the glitz and glam and b ack end awesomeness can beat the big dogz10:15
pollyoIchilegend: I'm not sure that Linux will put any dent in the MS machine at least not in the near future.10:15
pollyoIchilegend: As long as we continue to see an improvement in linux I'll be happy.10:16
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IchilegendSeriously?  We are at an impass.  64 bit and MS ending XP support are happening at the same time.  Who handles "What next" better than linux?10:16
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shinobii gotta say i'm gaining confidence, people with little or no background are making the switch baed purely on 2 things: 1. economics 2. no loss of ability or useabilty10:18
IchilegendSo many end users I help are unhappy with Vista and DRM.  They want a Mac, but the prices are too high.  I say Linux and show them and they are hooked.10:18
letynsofthi i've just upgraded my kubuntu up to 7.04 and now i can't boot with that kernel... it looks like it can't mount root fs to read-write mode10:18
pollyoIchilegend: What trouble do they actually encounter with Vista and DRM?10:18
Ichilegendsry to rant, but I think the coders finally have a serious competitor10:19
letynsoftwhat can i do with it/10:19
letynsoft?10:19
letynsoftthe new kernel is 2.6.20-1510:19
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Ichilegendpollyo, have you used Vista?  I love MS, I relly do.  They have paid my bills for over a decade.  Until Ubuntu 7.04 and Fedora 6  I would have sweared MS had the best OS10:20
pollyoletynsoft: What takes place when you go to boot?10:20
IchilegendVista jumped the shark10:20
pollyoIchilegend: No I haven't seen vista up close.  A friend of mine just got a new laptop with vista though.  She seems happy.10:20
letynsoftpollyo: ?10:21
pollyoletynsoft: I'm still here.10:21
pollyoletynsoft: Is it just checking the filesystem when you boot?10:21
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letynsoftdunno... when anything trying to write it writes filesystem is read-only10:22
IchilegendI am a very "Bob Vila" computer guy.  Best tool for the job10:23
IchilegendIf Vista works for you then use it.10:23
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ShaddoxHi everyone :D10:23
ShaddoxI'm finally back ^^10:23
pollyoIchilegend: What is the trouble people are having with DMR?  You said they have trouble with it on Vista.10:23
ShaddoxGot Kubuntu installed ^^10:23
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pollyoIchilegend: If you download music from music stores online you have trouble with DRM anywhere.  If you just buy a disk and rip it then you hardly have trouble with DMR anywhere.10:24
IchilegendI have had to call MS twice to activate my legal PC.10:24
ShaddoxThat's cause MS sucks. :D10:24
IchilegendLets skip RIAA DRM for now10:24
IchilegendI am talking the Windows Advantage programs10:25
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fdoving!offtopic10:25
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:25
snoopy1alphahi there10:25
pollyoIchilegend: Ok. And I've spent hours attempting to get something configured on linux.  (That would take 5 minuts on MS)  Its a trade off I suppose.10:25
os2maccan someone give me a little help with beryl?10:25
heinkel_111torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 tracker is down? :(10:25
snoopy1alphahas anyone else problems to update to feisty?10:25
pollyoIchilegend: I suppose we are a bit off topic tonight. <grin>10:26
fdovingos2mac: #ubuntu-effects might be more helpfull. they are the beryl-experts10:26
os2macthanks.10:26
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pollyoIchilegend: Enough discussion on the oses for tonight <Grin>10:26
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pollyoIchilegend: Any suggested sites that discuss KDE4?10:26
Ichilegendlol pollyo fair enough.  I have had those days.  MS makes a great OS, I am not a zealot.  But Kubuntu is getting close.  Real close is my point.10:26
snoopy1alphathe distribution upgrade-tool says some yile is missing10:26
snoopy1alphafile10:26
fdovingsnoopy1alpha: what file?10:27
snoopy1alphaFailed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  java/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)10:27
pollyoIchilegend: Yes.  I agree that Linux in general has come along way.10:27
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NYC_Looking.10:27
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zerakanyone actually share kubuntu dvd? or is the torrent server down?10:27
NYC_Looking.nick phoxy10:27
pollyoIchilegend: I spend most of my time using linux now as well.10:27
snoopy1alphathe tracker is down according to ktorrent10:27
zerakdoh10:28
zerakthank you though10:28
pollyoIchilegend: Only if they could come out with a PrinterDriver wrapper...10:28
NYC_Lookinghas anyone managed to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty through the network?10:28
IchilegendI am an MS 2000/2k3 IT Director by day.  as I said.  they pay the bills and  i love MS!  KDE 4.0 though  you think it will be that much of a change?10:28
snoopy1alphaI am trying to download the 64bit dvd-image for my desktop mashine10:28
zerakwould save them alot of bandwith to have it up10:28
NYC_Looking.nick phoxy10:28
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fdovingIchilegend: yes, it'll be a great change :)10:28
fdovingNYC_Looking: try /nick newnick10:28
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pollyoIchilegend: I have no idea.  I hope it will.10:29
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IchilegendI see usability changes such as caps lock warnings, but what else 4 me?10:29
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snoopy1alphafdoving: any idea about the file he could not fetch?10:29
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fdovingIchilegend: too much to mention, just the port to qt4 is a huge improvement.10:30
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Ichilegendpollyo, sorry  reading back, you got me to rant!  LOL10:30
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Ichilegend@fdoving  qt a great environment IMHO.  I would like to see what they have coming next10:31
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phoxyhas anyone managed to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty through the network?10:31
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jthumbhi is there a way to enable the old (edgy) logout screen in kubuntu ?10:31
pollyoIchilegend:  Just some chit-chat...10:31
yazeli need help setting my resolution. my xorg.conf looks ok, but i only get 640x480.10:32
Ichilegendso it was written, so it shall be done10:32
phoxyyasel, r u using Nvidia?10:32
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ShaddoxHi everyone.10:32
yazelno, i have a via integrated.10:32
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Ichilegendwb shaddox10:32
ShaddoxI need help with my wireless. I'm on the broadcom driver, but I think I need a firmware update.10:33
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ShaddoxIt can't find anything, but i did finally enable it. ^^10:33
phoxythis resolution issue is a problem with Ubuntu-- it is typiically a driver issue and also might reuire xorg.conf tweaking10:33
ShaddoxI want to get a static IP on it, too. X_x10:33
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yazelmy drivers was detected as "via"10:34
phoxythe Ubuntu forums have a lot of threads on it10:34
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Ichilegend@Shaddox why static, do not you have a wireless AP?10:34
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yazeli tried to delete all resolutions but 1280x1024 and didnt work.10:34
Shaddoxi have a router, but i like to have a static ip so i can free game ports for better connections to my game servers. ^^10:34
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fdovingShaddox: get the bcm43xx-fwcutter package. then run the script 'sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh'10:35
Shaddoxuh, fdoving, how do i do that again?10:35
Ichilegendahh ok fair enough,10:35
snoopy1alphabrb10:35
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fdovingShaddox: do you have the universe repository activated?10:35
fdoving!universe | shaddox10:35
ubotushaddox: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:35
fdoving!software | shaddox10:35
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ubotushaddox: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents10:36
Shaddoxokay10:36
Shaddoxi still have no clue10:36
fdovinggo read at those addresses. that'll explain everyting better than i can in the same time and amount of text.10:36
Shaddoxyeah well i just switched to kubuntu10:36
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Shaddoxim used to regular ubuntu ^^10:36
fdovingShaddox: ok, kmenu -> system -> adept manager10:37
fdovingthen search for and install10:37
fdovingbcm43xx-fwcutter10:37
fdovingafter enabling universe.10:37
Shaddoxokay one sec10:37
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Shaddoxadept didnt start the first time i clicked it10:37
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danii wan to learn hardcore programming in c/c++, python, java . don't know of any tools in linux os's beside kdevelop in kubuntu any recommendations10:38
pollyoThere has to be a better way then klammail.10:38
fdovingdani, kscope and vim.10:38
letynsoftpollyo:  ok... tryed to boot it again and looks like it don't try fs10:38
phoxyadept is a bad program-- gets corrupted easily10:38
crazy_penguinHello!10:38
Ichilegend@dani what about ajunta  for an IDE?10:38
fdovingphoxy: not that bad in it's current state. it's been upgraded for feisty.10:38
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fdovingpollyo: mailscanner is good. server-side though.10:39
pollyofdoving: I'll check it out thanks.10:39
pollyofdoving: Is that in the repo?10:39
pollyoletynsoft: don't try fs?10:39
Ichilegendsorry anjuta10:40
fdovingpollyo: yes, you can read more about it at mailscanner.info10:40
letynsoftpollyo:  didn't write anything about checking fs...10:40
Shaddoxfdoving: okay, packages are installing. but im gonna need a lot more help, mind if i bug you in private? ^^10:40
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pollyoletynsoft: What is it saying/doing?10:40
fdovingShaddox: no, let's do it in the channel please.10:40
Shaddoxokay, well i  got some free time10:40
Mena!mediabtuntu10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabtuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
Shaddoxim installing Tremulous too10:40
fdovingShaddox: packages are installed, ok. continue to start a terminal. kmenu -10:41
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fdovinger.. kmenu -> system -> konsole10:41
ShaddoxTrem is downloading10:41
fdovingok.10:41
pollyomedibuntu10:41
pollyo!medibuntu10:41
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/10:41
Shaddoxand there's one more download after it, X_x10:41
letynsoftpollyo: can't write to root... but mount says that root is rw10:42
fdovingShaddox: when it's done, open a konsole and run 'sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh'10:42
phoxyfdoving--- it got corrupted in trying to upgrade to Feisty, and now I am stuck-- it won't work10:42
fdoving!adept crash fix | phoxy10:42
ubotuphoxy: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:42
Menapollyo, Thanks10:42
Shaddoxso far i like kubuntu a lot more then regular ubuntu10:43
Shaddoxbut im not sure what beryl is, and i hear its popular, mind explaining/linking to info? ^^10:43
fdovingbbl.10:43
spawn57Shaddox: only difference is the desktop envoirnment10:43
Ichilegend@Shaddox agreed, beryl is eye candy10:43
pollyoletynsoft: Can't help you on this one.  I was hoping that maybe more information would spur some ideas.10:43
letynsoftpollyo: :'(10:43
pollyoShaddox: I'm not sure on that myself.  I'm liking the basic ubuntu/gnome setup.  Though I do have the kubuntu installation and switch between the two.10:44
Ichilegendberyl is nice, beautiful, sexy, hard to configure - eye candy that is sweet10:44
Shaddoxokay, but still, what is beryl. ^^10:44
Shaddoxand how do i get it and all that10:44
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Shaddoxer, brb10:44
Shaddoxlet me change from Konversation to Kopete10:44
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phoxyudotu-- thanks.  What is this before sudo?10:45
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Shaddoxokay, back. :D10:46
Ichilegendhey Shaddox10:46
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IchilegendOK beryl lets yo put some really killer graphical effects on KDE or Gnome10:47
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Shaddoxneat10:47
Shaddoxthats the kind of thing i want :D10:47
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Shaddoxwhee, tremulous at 75% ^^10:47
ma3xhow can I install flash player for x86_64 ?10:47
Ichilegendare the necessary? no.  are they the stuff that make friends envious?  YES10:47
Shaddoxsold! where do i get it? :D10:48
phoxycan I format a partition in NTFS for ubuntu?10:48
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phoxyor does it have to be fat32?10:48
pollyofdoving: This mailscan does it work with something like evolution mail?10:49
pollyofdoving: Or is it for someone running a mailsever?10:49
EvilIdlerSpeaking from experience, I have to recommend using drives already formatted in NTFS by a Windows system. But there's full read and write support in Linux through various tools.10:49
IchilegendShaddox, well on fiesty i went to synaptec package mgr and added beryl plus beryl-settings-simple10:50
mkquistShaddox - follow the directions here http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn.html10:50
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mkquistShaddox - got it working in no time at all, and it is nice10:50
orient2000!beryl10:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:50
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pollyophoxy: Why would you want to format NTFS for a linux machine?10:50
Ichilegendrun beryl-settings-simple to get a cool aseline then run the beryl-manager to get more options10:50
snikkeri can't see the window buttons (close, maximize, iconify) with beryl... how fix this?10:50
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EvilIdlerMy 7.04 upgrade was bumpy (the manager crashed on MySQL install!), but none of the major problems from earlier. The new repository management in Adept is excellent :)10:51
phoxyjust asking-- NTFS has some advantages, and WINDOWS uses it10:51
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EvilIdlerNTFS has no advantages on a Linux system, though ;)10:51
pollyophoxy: You can use samba to share files with windows machines.10:51
phoxyI do10:51
ShaddoxUh, okay okay guys one second10:52
pollyophoxy: What advantage would a linux have in using NTFS?10:52
Ichilegendberyl goes hand in hand with the emerald there manager for KDe so ge both10:52
ShaddoxWhoever was helping me with my wireless firmware: The package has been installed.10:52
EvilIdlerIt's a one-size-fits-all solution on Windows10:52
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dmhouseHey guys. I'm running 6.06/Dapper, and I want to upgrade to 7.04/Feisty. Is the best way to go through 6.10/Edgy?10:52
letynsoftpollyo:  hmm... looks like problem with initrd... the second kernel uses it too and i can't boot it too...10:52
Ichilegendkawaii desu ne?10:52
snikkerIchilegend: i've already installed also emerald...10:52
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pollyophoxy: If you want a Windows system to access the drive they have a driver so you can red etx2/3 from windows as well.10:53
Ichilegendsnikker ok, do you have a beryl ruby icon in your task bar?10:53
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snikkerIchilegend: yes10:53
pollyoBRB10:54
yazelswitched driver from via to vesa and high resolutions worked again10:54
phoxyI am more interested in how I can resurrect my ADEPT which was corrupted by my attempt to upgrade Edgy through the network10:54
snikkerIchilegend: the strange thing is that on edgy it work fine... it doesn't work on feisty...10:54
ma3xI have the netinst CD of debian. can I somehow install directly sid? (not first etch and then upgrading to sid)10:54
phoxyI shall try some of the ideas when I return to my machine on Monday10:54
Ichilegendkool. if you right click it, you can choose "reload windows manager" or "reload theme manager" etc.  try those and it should work10:54
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Ichilegend@snikker, weird.  Edgy borked my laptop, Fiesty is the first Linux to work well.10:56
EvilIdlerBeryl starts up much faster now. No more waiting half a minute for borders and titles to redraw :)10:56
phoxyI read a nice review of Feisty on a laptop.  He loved it, but the battery life was cut in half compared to XP10:56
snikkerIchilegend: i've reload but nothing to do...10:57
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EvilIdlerBut my system still keeps forgetting I had Beryl running if I log out and back in :/10:57
dr0hne<EvilIdler>you can write a startscript and running it, when logging in10:57
Ichilegendberyl is a challenge , no doubt. My time is up though,10:58
dr0hnei thin this is described in the ubuntu wiki10:58
EvilIdlerdr0hne: I know, but it feels filthy ;)  - I'd prefer session management, like I've used all these years10:58
IchilegendNight night all.  and best of luck to al sports racers10:58
dmhouseHey guys. I'm running 6.06/Dapper, and I want to upgrade to 7.04/Feisty. Is the best way to go through 6.10/Edgy?10:59
ubuntuhello a have delete my disk partition and i have a question i can get back files of the delete parition ?10:59
ubuntusoorry but my englis is not perfect :)11:00
spawn57dmhouse, use adept11:00
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snikkerdmhouse: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade11:00
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dmhousesnikker: I'm not running 6.10 ;)11:00
snikkerdmhouse: oppss... sorry :-P11:01
snikkerdmhouse: you should use the old update method...11:01
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dmhousesnikker: would that be the one described in this page? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php11:02
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snikkerdmhouse: yes11:03
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Cosmo_anyone know how to run World of Padman in a window?11:04
parrotheadmjkCan anyone help?  I'm trying to do an upgrade to Feisty over network.  I tried following the instructions on Ubuntu.com, but when I use the Adept manager it tells me to allow the Feisty repositories.  But I can't see them.  Any ideas for a linux newbie?11:05
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parrotheadmjkSorry - Ubuntu.com tells me to allow the Feisty repositories, but I don't see them in my Adept Manager list.11:05
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Shaddox_Hi again everyone. ^^11:08
Shaddox_My wireless still isn't working. X_x11:09
Dekansdoes someone know how many kubuntu dev are there ?11:09
Shaddox_Can someone help me fix my wireless?11:09
Dekanswhat card ?11:10
Shaddox_broadcom 54g11:10
Dekansbcm43xx ?11:10
Shaddox_yeah11:10
blekos_could you tell me the LC_ALL in locale what is it for?11:10
DekansShaddox_: did you try fwcutter ?11:10
Shaddox_Dekans: I'm pretty sure I did.11:10
Dekanswich driver did you use ?11:11
Shaddox_im not sure11:11
Shaddox_im a nub to linux stuff ^^11:11
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Shaddox_i did this:  sudo '/usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh'11:12
Shaddox_then rebooted11:12
Shaddox_but it still doesnt work, after installing the fwcutter using Adept too11:12
DekansShaddox_: http://metais.iiens.net/wl_apsta.o11:12
Dekansdownload this one11:12
Dekansand install it witn bcm43xx-fwcutter11:12
Shaddox_er...how?11:12
Shaddox_i saved it to my home folder11:13
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Dekanssudo bcm43xx-fwcutter wl_apsta.o11:13
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jussi01can someone tell me how to configure the bottom panel only? (ive moved the default panel to the top of the screen and created a bottom panel)11:14
Shaddox_Dekans: Now what?11:14
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DekansShaddox_: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` wl_apsta.o11:14
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ShaddoxThere we go. ^11:15
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ShaddoxOkay.11:15
ShaddoxIt did the same stuff, it looked like.11:15
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DekansShaddox: one of those 2 lines works well for me11:15
ShaddoxI did both, now what?11:15
Dekansit's the second i think11:15
Dekanssudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx11:15
ShaddoxDone.11:16
Dekansand check with iwconfig11:16
Dekansor reboot to be sure11:16
Shaddoxlo        no wireless extensions.11:16
Shaddoxeth0      no wireless extensions.11:16
Shaddoxeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"belkin54g"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"11:16
Shaddox          Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:11:50:C8:00:6011:16
Shaddox          Bit Rate=1 Mb/s11:16
Shaddox          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off11:16
Shaddox          Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm11:16
Shaddox          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:011:16
Shaddox          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:011:16
ShaddoxSorry, i know it's a lot, but i dont have my pastebin links anymore. X_x11:16
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DekansShaddox: it seems to be ok11:17
ShaddoxIsn't it supposed to be more than 1MB?11:17
ShaddoxLike...54MB?11:17
ShaddoxOr 100?11:17
EvilIdlerTry pastebin.com :)11:17
Dekansyou are not yet connected11:17
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ShaddoxI set a manual IP and everything11:17
DekansShaddox: do you run feisty or edgy ?11:17
ShaddoxDo I need to set it to DHCP?11:17
ShaddoxFeisty11:17
CedricPhi all11:17
DekansShaddox: you should have 54 MB11:17
ShaddoxUpgraded an hour ago, to Kubuntu from ubuntu feisty daily 2007041411:18
ShaddoxNow my wireless isn't working again XD11:18
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Dekansso try sudo ifup eth111:18
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CedricPI upgraded from Edgy to Feisty... Now my KDE is not showing me the "switch user" button anymore, any idea ?11:18
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Shaddoxifup: interface eth1 already configured11:18
Cosmo_since installing 7.04 I now have no sound, it was working fine with my creative labs audigy in 6.1011:18
Dekanssudo ifdown et1 && sudo ifup eth111:18
ShaddoxSIOCDELRT: No such process11:19
Shaddoxifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied11:19
Dekanswith sudo ?11:19
ShaddoxMmhmm11:19
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Dekanssudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth111:19
DekansI forgot a letter11:19
Shaddoxi added the H you missed already when i did it11:19
Shaddoxarchon@archon:~$ sudo ifdown eth1 && ifup eth111:20
ShaddoxSIOCDELRT: No such process11:20
Shaddoxifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied11:20
Dekanssudo ifup11:20
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Shaddoxifup: Use --help for help11:20
Dekansyou forgot the sudo11:21
Shaddoxno i didnt11:21
llutzShaddox: sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth111:21
KimBisgaardshadox: I had to do a "sudo apt-get install -f"11:21
Dekansarchon@archon:~$ sudo ifdown eth1 && ifup eth111:21
llutzShaddox: you did11:21
ShaddoxI did that! >.>11:21
jonathan__gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"11:21
ShaddoxI didn't forget the sudo's, guys...11:21
jonathan__what is sudo mean?11:21
Shaddoxperform a command as a super user11:21
Dekansjonathan__: su do !11:21
Dekanssuper user do11:22
jonathan__ow...11:22
jonathan__ok11:22
Dekans:)11:22
jonathan__sudo -s -H11:22
jonathan__?11:22
ShaddoxLook, Dekans and llutz:11:22
Shaddoxarchon@archon:~$ sudo ifup eth111:22
Shaddoxifup: interface eth1 already configured11:22
Shaddoxarchon@archon:~$ sudo ifdown eth1 && ifup eth111:22
ShaddoxSIOCDELRT: No such process11:22
Shaddoxifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied11:22
jonathan__then pasword?11:22
Shaddoxarchon@archon:~$ sudo ifup11:22
Shaddoxifup: Use --help for help11:22
Shaddoxarchon@archon:~$11:22
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Dekanssudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth111:22
llutzShaddox: read: udo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth111:22
Dekansdo this11:22
llutz+s11:22
jonathan__wow11:23
Dekansfirst you forgot sudo, then you forgot eth111:23
ShaddoxDekans: ifdown: interface eth1 not configured11:23
jonathan__sudo eth111:23
Dekansso sudo ifup eth111:23
jonathan__sudo ifup eth111:23
Shaddoxifup: interface eth1 already configured11:23
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Dekansifdown: interface eth1 not configured & ifup: interface eth1 already configured ??11:24
jonathan__gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"11:24
jonathan__here is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 13499341611:24
Dekanswatch now11:24
jonathan__Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.411:24
Dekansiwconfig11:24
jonathan__Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.11:24
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jonathan__All rights reserved.11:24
jonathan__For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/11:24
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jonathan__SIOCSIFADDR: No such device11:24
ShaddoxDekans: We should go to private, johnathan_ is spamming line-by-line, instead of pasting all lines together. X_x11:24
KimBisgaardshaddox: on my system apt-get did not finish configuring ie network11:25
jonathan__eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device11:25
jonathan__eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device11:25
jonathan__Bind socket to interface: No such device11:25
jonathan__Failed to bring up eth1.11:25
jonathan__error11:25
jonathan__ok11:25
jonathan__no wireless extensions11:25
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jonathan__ha211:25
KimBisgaardshadox: So I had to do a "sudo apt-get install -f"11:25
jonathan__ok211:25
Dekansok11:25
ShaddoxUgh11:25
ShaddoxIt says only registered users can send privates, and I've registered already. :/11:25
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DekansShaddox: /msg ns identify password11:26
Shaddoxyeah yeah11:26
Shaddoxi forgot i was ghosted ^^11:26
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jonathan__who was ghosted?11:27
jonathan__^^11:27
phoxyhow do I register?11:27
Shaddoxme.11:27
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coder2Hello. Who'd like to help me with installation?11:27
MidMark!lock11:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
MidMark!adept11:27
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:27
jonathan__what instalation?11:28
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bearsalut11:28
coder2kubuntu on 965 motherboard11:28
jonathan__ada orang indonesia di sini?11:28
jonathan__kalo bisa bahasa indonesia bantuin dong!11:29
jonathan__hallo!11:29
beary'a des franais ?11:29
jonathan__bantuin gw dong bingung nih pake ubuntu11:29
bearallooooooooooo11:30
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bearthre is someone ?11:30
coder2bear: yas11:30
jonathan__y11:31
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bearI've a problem with Kubuntu11:31
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hak5fanI've asked here before, but my mic problem is really driving me mad. My mic volume is very low allthough the mic volume in kmix is set to max i've posted my problem  here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=54779911:31
KimBisgaardbear: what problem?11:32
bearI dont speak very well english11:32
bearhum11:32
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bearsometimes my computer bug at starting11:32
bearI think it's half time11:32
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KimBisgaardI do not speak french - spanish/german is better?11:32
hak5fanbear does it restart at boot11:33
hak5fan?11:33
llutzhak5fan: you've switched mic-booster on?11:33
coder2bear: unfortunately, I have a problem with kubuntu installation too. I guess there is no much hope for getting help here, but I have to stay here and wait11:33
premier_does anyone here know how eSATA works?  Like, for an external hard drive?  Is there plug and playness in linux, or do I have to reboot?11:33
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hak5fanillutz: I can't do that because then It's really noisy11:33
bearwhen I start kubuntu, sometimes it block to the starting screen11:33
bearI've to reboot manually11:33
Cugelbear: any error messages?11:34
bearno11:34
bearthe starting stop11:34
bearand nothing happen11:34
KimBisgaardbear:  try to look in /var/log/messages for errors11:34
hyper_chhiho, anyone who uses konversation please type:  /sysinfo11:34
hak5fanllutz: and it worked with out it before?11:34
hak5fannot a q though11:35
coder2How about SATA drives connected to ICH8? Anybody's got it worked ?11:35
MidMark!unlock11:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
bearis there a french IRC chanel for kubuntu ?11:35
dettoaltrimenti_is bchunk the only program that can convert bin/cue to iso?11:35
KimBisgaardSysinfo for 'xabbu': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1200MHz at 1199 MHz (2418 bogomips), , RAM: 601/620MB, 114 proc's, 1.13h up11:35
hyper_chKimBisgaard: thx11:35
hak5fanbear: try this http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/. The french ubuntu forum11:35
MidMark!adeptfix11:35
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:35
dettoaltrimenti_bear- !fr11:36
bearyes I already post my problem thre11:36
dettoaltrimenti_hmm.. !kubuntu-fr11:36
bear!fr11:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:36
bearthanks11:37
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hyper_chKimBisgaard: you are not using feisty?11:38
KimBisgaardshure i do11:38
hsn_how can i change mirror for upgrading kubuntu? upgrade app displays ETA 23 hours and i have 10 Mbit line11:38
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hak5fan!no11:39
ubotuHvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!11:39
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hyper_chKimBisgaard: you are using feisty? how comes you have a 2.6.15 kernel?11:40
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hyper_chKimBisgaard: could you install gawk for a moment?11:40
KimBisgaardThe upgrade probably not worked too well11:41
coder2whom or where should I ask my question about SATA drives and kubuntu installation ?11:41
KimBisgaardIm shure I have gawk installed - called awk11:41
hyper_chKimBisgaard: no, you have not11:41
hyper_chKimBisgaard: because it does not show your diskspace11:41
hyper_chthat's what has troubled me since yesterday11:42
hyper_chand it seems that is only on feisty the case11:42
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os2macanyone know how to disable the compositor in KDE?11:42
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KimBisgaardSysinfo for 'xabbu': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1200MHz at 1199 MHz (2418 bogomips), HD: 21/54GB, RAM: 589/620MB, 113 proc's, 1.21h up11:43
hyper_chKimBisgaard: see, before it didn't show your diskspace11:43
KimBisgaardYou are so right11:44
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hyper_chit's strange11:44
KimBisgaardOld problem with /root partition being too small11:44
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KimBisgaardalmost inpossible to get sufficient space for two kernels at the same time11:45
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hyper_chKimBisgaard: how do you mean that?11:46
os2macI am trying to turn off the GUI effects in KDE, can anyone help?11:46
dettoaltrimenti_gui effects?11:47
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KimBisgaardduring install of kernel - I have to have enough space for both the old and the new kernel - I have not11:47
dettoaltrimenti_k menu- system settings- appearance and window behavior11:47
KimBisgaardso it does not upgrade11:47
EvilIdlerKimBisgaard: Is it failing while creating the initrd?11:48
KimBisgaardfailing while unpacking the new kernel package11:48
EvilIdlerKimBisgaard: Do a 'sudo apt-get clean' and see if you have more space then11:49
dettoaltrimenti_is there any way to convert a bin/cue VCD file to an .avi?11:49
hyper_chKimBisgaard: hmmm :( not good... well, I have plenty of diskspace... too bad I can't "borrow" you some for the kernel upgrade11:49
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ZephyrHi room11:50
Zephyrhave a query here about web cams11:50
Zephyrhow do i get my webcam working with ubuntu Dapper Drake?11:50
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KimBisgaardWell I should just repartition and reinstall - but thats a lot of work - not time or not important enough11:50
dortoI installed Kubuntu Fiesty but it is not showing 1440x900(native resolution for my samsum 940BW LCD monitor) as an option. Using 1120xsth resolution.11:51
dortoI edited the xorg.conf file to add "1440x900" but it still is not showing that option11:51
EvilIdlerdorto: Did you add it for 24 bit?11:51
dortoEvilIdler, yes, for both 24 and 16 bits11:52
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zerakhaha, from 200 kb to 3 kb for 10 min and now 500 kb11:53
EvilIdlerdorto: Check that you're really running in either of those, then check syntax in the modes line11:54
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EvilIdlerdorto: xwininfo from a console, click on a window, should tell you the current depth11:54
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dortoEvilIdler, it cannot run in less than 16 or 24 bit mode. and I just added "1440x900" beside a long list of other resolutions listed: 1152xsth, 1440x1440 etc11:55
dortoEvilIdler, k11:55
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dortoI will run that command11:55
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EvilIdlerdorto: If it's in either, paste you xorg.conf to pastebin.com and show us the link11:56
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dortoEvilIdler, Ubuntu Edgy switched to correct resolution after adding "1440x900"; should i just copy that xorg.conf to kubuntu(after taking a backup) ?11:56
coder2Anybody owns i965 motherboard ? How to install there?11:56
EvilIdlerdorto: Yeah, sounds like a good idea11:57
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dortoEvilIdler, in fact I got it now when I rebooted the system. I was thinking just restarting X would refresh the resolutions. apparantly not.11:57
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dortothanks EvilIdler, 1440x900 resolutions looks very good indeed :)11:58
jonathan_123411:58
EvilIdlerdorto: You did most of the thinking yourself ;)11:58
jonathan_ok11:58
jonathan_hello all!11:58
jonathan_I want to ask something11:58
jonathan_how to install  vmware tools on my kubuntu?11:59
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jonathan_plz help me11:59
kblogk3d is making me heavily troubles, i can't update to feisty because it. now, i even can't remove it... is there a way to remove it?11:59
jonathan_to install vmware tools11:59
just-this-timego ahead jonathan_11:59
jonathan_I'm trying to install vmware tools on my kubuntu12:00
EvilIdlerkblog: apt-get remove doesn't let you?12:00
jonathan_but I don't know to install it12:00
jonathan_hello12:00
jonathan_somebody plz12:00
just-this-timejonathan_: what hardware .preferably have Intel VT ( Virtualization Technology)12:01
jonathan_I can't install my vmware tools12:01
jonathan_plz help me12:01
jonathan_someone!12:01
just-this-timejonathan_: pls chill12:01
jonathan_ok12:01
just-this-timeall here are volunteers12:01
jonathan_just-this-time12:01
EvilIdlerIf someone knows, they usually respond12:01
jonathan_can you help me?12:01
just-this-timeexactly12:01
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jonathan_this is my first time using kubuntu12:01
jonathan_so, I don't know anything exept windows xp ha212:02
lokyciao12:02
just-this-timeas you may understand ppl are here because they want to, not because they are obliged12:02
just-this-timeIOW volunteers12:02
jonathan_ok12:02
jonathan_what is IOW?12:02
just-this-timejonathan_: do you have INtel VT?12:02
jonathan_?12:03
jonathan_nope12:03
just-this-timeIOW - in a word12:03
kblogEvilIdler: yes, apt-get remvoe puts out an error.12:03
just-this-timea sec12:03
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se7enwhat lib do i need again for transcode for amarok12:03
EvilIdlerkblog: Try apt-get -f install12:03
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jonathan_ok12:03
atidemciao!12:03
jonathan_cao!12:04
dortojonathan_, you trying to install VMWare player? or you can run OS in VMWare but want to install VMWare tools to improve efficiency?12:04
kblogEvilIdler: i did but same: error.12:04
jonathan_yes12:04
jonathan_I want to use vmware tools12:04
EvilIdlerkblog: Pastebin it, or message me privately if you're registered12:04
jonathan_but I can't12:04
kblogE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:04
jonathan_yep12:04
jonathan_I don't know again12:04
EvilIdlerkblog: Just that error, or is there more above?12:04
jonathan_I cannot do anything12:04
jonathan_ha212:05
jonathan_i'm just an amateur to using linux12:05
jonathan_so, I'm still don't know anything12:05
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just-this-timejonathan_: have an interesting reading here http://www.intel.com/technology/virtualization/index.htm12:05
jonathan_ok12:05
jonathan_what is that?12:05
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jthumbanybody familiar with the logout menu of kubuntu here ?12:06
JanK_how to enable the built-in compiz/beryl in feisty?12:06
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andremarte!it12:06
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:06
kblogEvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16765/12:06
jonathan_somebody from indonesia?12:06
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jonathan_1:10000012:06
just-this-time jonathan_ I'm still don't know anything < << you are not native english speaking are you ?12:07
jonathan_it's very rare indonesian people using linux12:07
jonathan_huh12:07
just-this-timeah I see12:07
se7ensomeone use amarok transcode?12:07
just-this-timewelcome Indonesia12:07
jonathan_yep12:07
jonathan_ha212:07
jonathan_selamat datang12:07
just-this-timeIndonesia - big country many islands12:08
EvilIdlerkblog: I'm installing it now to see if I get any problems12:08
se7enwhat lib do i need to download to make transcode work12:08
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Dekansdoes someone know how many kubuntu dev are there ??12:08
jonathan_yes12:08
jonathan_and biodivercity12:08
just-this-timecome again Dekans?12:08
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just-this-timeDekans:  kubuntu developers ? who is counting ?12:08
Dekansjust-this-time: canonical12:10
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EvilIdlerkblog: It's failing at Python module updates on your system. Have you had any other Python-related issues?12:10
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jonathan_how can I registred to the server?12:11
jonathan_what is this?12:11
just-this-timeah yes Dekans canonical has its website (s) consider checking there ?12:11
jonathan_I cannot start the private converstation12:11
just-this-timejonathan_: must register here on freenode12:11
jonathan_how?12:11
just-this-timenickserv and stuff12:11
jonathan_can you teach me?12:11
jonathan_how to register?12:12
kblogEvilIdler: yes, thats possible. had other smaller problems too12:12
_4strO!register12:12
just-this-timewait12:12
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:12
kblogEvilIdler: should i remove python?12:12
jonathan_ok12:12
just-this-timety there you go jonathan_ ^^^12:12
_4strO!register | jonathan_12:12
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ubotujonathan_: please see above12:12
EvilIdlerkblog: I just had a compile warning, but the program is not running well :/12:12
jonathan_I'm already click that links12:12
EvilIdlerkblog: I wouldn't recommend that - too much in Ubuntu is based on it12:12
jonathan_now...12:12
jonathan_what?12:12
just-this-time  -- > /msg nickserv register ?12:13
EvilIdlerkblog: If you do, you should drop to a console and shut down KDM/X etc., then apt-get install the kubuntu-desktop package again *after* doing a full upgrade12:13
kblogEvilIdler: i know... but... how can i piss off it ? :(12:13
kblogEvilIdler: ok, ill join via irssi then.12:13
EvilIdlerkblog: You could try one thing first12:14
jonathan_?!12:14
jonathan_what is this?12:14
just-this-timejonathan_: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup12:14
EvilIdlerkblog: Create the file /usr/share/python-support/k3d.dirs - it should just contain 'usr/share'k3d' on a line by itself12:14
jonathan_just copy and paste?12:14
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jonathanmmBonjout12:14
jonathan_bonjour!12:15
just-this-time --> /msg nickserv register p455w0rd12:15
jonathanmmJ'ai un probleme avec mon micro12:15
jonathanmmje ne m'attend presque pas12:15
_4strO!fr | jonathanmm12:15
ubotujonathanmm: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:15
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jonathan_I'm already registred12:15
just-this-timeready for private (PM ) jonathan ?12:15
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jonathan_ok12:16
jonathanmmQue se passe t il ici ?12:16
just-this-timetry PM jonathan_12:16
jonathanmmI m sorry12:16
kblogEvilIdler: ok, im back. so your further advices? :)12:16
EvilIdlerkblog: You could try one thing first12:16
EvilIdlerkblog: Create the file /usr/share/python-support/k3d.dirs - it should just contain 'usr/share'k3d' on a line by itself12:16
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jonathan_do you have some msn id or yahoo?12:16
EvilIdlerkblog: Then try to install k3d again12:16
just-this-timesure jona12:17
just-this-timesure jonathan_12:17
jonathan_what is your id?12:17
jonathan_msn or yahoo12:17
kblogEvilIdler: ok, ill try.12:17
jonathan_I'm prefer kopete more than konverstation12:17
just-this-timekopete is alright12:18
jonathan_ok12:18
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jonathan_what is your id now?12:18
jonathan_I will add you just-this-time12:18
just-this-timejonathan_: you are not on PM yet12:18
jonathan_this place is to crowded12:18
jonathan_I can't12:18
jonathan_ok12:18
just-this-timeso jonathan_ you are not yet nickserv registered then12:18
kblogEvilIdler: with the ' or not?12:19
EvilIdlerkblog: without12:19
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just-this-timealso do /msg nickserv id p455w0rd jonathan_12:19
aldin** (beryl-manager:6603): CRITICAL **: can't execute beryl-xgl: Success12:21
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just-this-timejonathan_: I just onlined on msn12:21
EvilIdleraldin: Critical success! Double damage!12:21
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jonathan_ok12:21
kblogEvilIdler: with reinstall? or just install?12:21
abdullahhallo @ all12:21
aldinEvilIdler: what to do12:21
jonathan_just-this-time12:21
jonathan_I'm alreaduy add you12:21
aldinabdullah: hello12:21
jonathan_pribadi111@yahoo.com12:21
just-this-timejonathan_: is that your msn Id as well/12:22
EvilIdlerkblog: I'd try first to 'apt-get install k3d', then to remove it. If neither works, it's looking like you need to remove a package it depends on :/12:22
jonathan_I'm using YM12:22
EvilIdleraldin: xglinfo should tell you if your desktop is set up for 3D hardware acceleration12:22
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just-this-timenope that is a yahoo one12:23
ionushow to install video driver in kubuntu12:23
aldinEvilIdler: u mean fglrxinfo? it is set up12:23
jonathan_yes12:23
just-this-timeionus12:23
jonathan_I'm using yahoo messenger12:23
just-this-time!ati12:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:23
just-this-time!nvidia12:23
se7enwhat lib do i need to download to make transcode work12:23
just-this-time!intel12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
jonathan_!12:23
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ionus!nvidia12:23
ionusok i understand12:23
ionus!nvidia12:23
aldinEvilIdler: i have ati card12:23
EvilIdleraldin: I'm not sure what that is, but whichever program tells you if X is actually *using* 3D12:23
jonathan_are u online now?12:24
jonathan_tonybehar@hotmail.com12:24
jonathan_?12:24
just-this-timeops ! !nvidia should point to !ati12:24
EvilIdleraldin: glxinfo is a standard tool that comes with Xorg or a package in that collection, while fglrx are ATI-specific driver thingamies. See the ATI links above - I'm no expert on ATI :)12:24
just-this-timejonathan_:  online on yahoo or msn ?12:24
aldinnevermind worked on edgy...12:25
kblogEvilIdler: i wasnt able to reinstall it but to remove ! :)12:25
EvilIdlerkblog: That's progress :)12:26
bxnpis there away if you run the live cd to burn something on a disk12:26
EvilIdlerkblog: I suspect your upgrade will be like mine - dist-upgrades and -f and --configure -a till it stops complaining12:26
jonathan_I'm online on my yahoo12:26
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just-this-timethat explains it  jonathan_12:26
just-this-timein the meantime onlened on yahoo! as well12:26
jonathan_pribadi111@yahoo.com12:27
ferret_0567Why does Kontact keep on creating files named "list.vcf*" on the desktop?12:27
ferret_0567It's getting annoying12:27
just-this-timewhy put email in public jonathan_? it maybe abused12:27
just-this-timeI advise you not to do it12:27
jonathan_oh ya?12:27
jonathan_I don't know12:27
jonathan_sorry12:27
just-this-timepls dont advertise mine12:27
jonathan_ok12:28
jonathan_just using private converstation12:28
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ferret_0567IRC is plain text, it's easy to intercept12:28
jonathan_you are not online<just-this-time>12:28
jonathan_are you already login to you msn?12:28
jonathan_I'm waiting12:29
just-this-timeboth jonathan_12:29
jonathan_hm...12:29
jonathan_?12:29
os2macis there a way through the GUI in KDE to add something to the startup?12:29
kblogEvilIdler: i just started apt dist-upgrade im going to reinstall it later.12:29
jonathan_oh my12:30
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jonathan_it's hard12:30
jonathan_to crowded12:30
os2macok what's the easy way?12:30
jonathan_hello12:30
jonathan_os2mac12:30
os2macHi Jonathan12:30
EvilIdlerkblog: I suspect k3d is broken, because my installation on a working Feisty just got a black screen12:30
jonathan_k3d?12:30
jonathan_what is that?12:30
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jonathan_running compiz?12:31
ferret_0567 Are you getting a black screen at the console?12:31
ionus!iso12:31
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:31
ferret_0567If so, I can help12:31
ionus!write iso on cd12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about write iso on cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
ferret_0567Use k3b for that12:31
ionus!write cd12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about write cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
ferret_0567It's a really good CD burning app12:32
jonathan_oh!12:32
kblogEvilIdler: so i just dont reinstall it.12:32
just-this-timeionus why abuse using ! sign ?12:32
EvilIdlerferret_0567: Installing the k3d package gave me a compilation error, and launching the program on a Beryl desktop shows a black window. The thumbnail looks different12:32
jonathan_bye2 all12:32
kblogjonathan_: yes its the best for kde actually12:32
kblogimho12:32
just-this-timebye jonathan_12:32
ferret_0567sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install k3b12:32
ionustell me a program with i can write cd and dvd12:32
ferret_0567That one12:32
ionusk3b?12:32
os2macok, what is the quick way to add something to autostart?12:32
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ferret_0567You are using Kubuntu, right?12:33
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ferret_0567Yes12:33
kblogwhich alsa-version is feisty using?12:33
ionuskubuntu12:33
ferret_0567That "k3b" program is excellent12:33
ionusok12:33
ionusthx12:33
ionusbut i can write iso images?12:33
kblogbrb12:33
os2mac!autostart12:33
EvilIdlerkblog: Reinstall it when the system is updated, but try without 3D effects on the desktop first :)12:33
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:33
ferret_0567paste that "sudo..." thing into konsole12:33
ionusand12:34
DJ_T_DoGguys, i got a problem.. yesterday i was updating kubuntu to feisty fawn, but in the middle of the update the lights went out and the instalation stopped (at about 95%).. How can i resume it??12:34
ferret_0567press enter12:34
EvilIdlerOnce you've seen k3b, you don't really want to use any other burner12:34
ionusdone12:34
ferret_0567sudo apt-get install is how you install software a certain way12:34
apokryphosbetter to use adept12:35
apokryphosubotu: adept12:35
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:35
ferret_0567Using Adept is another in Kubuntu12:35
kblogEvilIdler: ok, ill do12:35
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ionussudo is like -su12:35
ionus?12:35
kblogbrb12:35
apokryphosionus: /msg ubotu sudo12:35
ferret_0567not exactly12:35
ferret_0567similar, but not exactly12:35
ferret_0567it's important to know the difference between the two12:35
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ferret_0567sudo apt-get update will make sure you install the latest k3b or whatever12:36
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Doctor_Nickugh12:36
bxnpguys is there away when i use the kubuntu install cd on a computer with one cd burner to write a cd12:36
Doctor_Nickdoes anyone here know how to work sshfs12:36
ionusok12:36
ferret_0567For support people, telling somebody to paste this thingy into konsole and press enter, is much easier than walking them through, say, Adept12:36
ionusbut i don now how to burn iso on cd12:37
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gigabyteshello everybody12:37
ferret_0567Install k3b using that thingy I told you about12:37
ionusok a found it12:37
ferret_0567ok12:37
ferret_0567Good12:37
apokryphosferret_0567: Adept is the Kubuntu package manager; to new users you should recommend that12:37
gigabytesI feel like adept is very slow on my machine12:37
gigabytesis it normal?12:38
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apokryphostelling them to just put a command on the terminal probably isn't helping them at all12:38
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ionusbut what is diference betwen kubuntu and ubuntu12:38
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apokryphosionus: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic12:38
Doctor_Nick!kubuntu12:38
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:38
ionuswhat is diference betwen kubuntu and ubuntu12:39
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ferret_0567!ubuntu12:39
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome12:39
DJ_T_DoGguys, i got a problem.. yesterday i was updating kubuntu to feisty fawn, but in the middle of the update the lights went out and obviously the instalation stopped (at about 95%).. How can i resume it??12:40
abattoirionus: kubuntu ships with KDE as the default DE, whereas ubuntu ships w/ GNOME12:40
DJ_T_DoGcan some1 help me12:40
DJ_T_DoG?12:40
ionusonly desktop interface12:40
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EvilIdlerDJ_T_DoG: Dirty quick way - open a console and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'12:40
DJ_T_DoGthanks12:40
_4strODJ_T_DoG: simply try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:40
ionuswhat is diference betwen KDE and GNOME12:41
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_4strOand then he will give you the command to resume12:41
EvilIdlerDJ_T_DoG: I had to massage my upgrade to get it rolling, but apt-get picks up where it dropped out12:41
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abattoirionus: yeah, pretty much12:41
os2mac!autostart12:41
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:41
abattoirionus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE12:41
abattoirionus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME12:41
_4strOsomething like : dpkg upgrade update -a12:41
_4strOdidn't remember12:41
ionuswho is more easy to use KDE or GNOME12:42
anymoushello, i just upgraded to 7.04, but after reboot the login screen greets with ubuntu not with kubuntu, how could it happen?12:42
EvilIdlerionus: Yes.12:42
DJ_T_DoGit says i gad to run dpkg --configure -a12:43
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DJ_T_DoG*had12:43
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_4strODJ_T_DoG: this is the command i was looking for :)12:43
DJ_T_DoG:)12:43
EvilIdlerDJ_T_DoG: Yep, that's what I did. sudo dpkg --configure -a12:43
DJ_T_DoGit has resumed :)12:43
DJ_T_DoGthanks a lot12:44
_4strOno pb ;)12:44
ionusok thx for ansewers12:44
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TomTomhi there, the gui management of the system services panics, so i have to adjust them on the command line. because of the replacement for the system-v init.d stuff i cant use update-rc.d commands anmore ? are there new commands available ?12:44
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_4strOanymous: try a : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:44
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anymous_4astrO, kubuntu-desktop is and was installed, it's just an upgrade12:45
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EvilIdleranymous: You need to switch login manager to KDM, then. Not sure how, actually.12:46
EvilIdleranymous: But you can still select KDE from the login manager in use12:46
anymousEvilIdler, ah, I see, gdm is running, not kdm12:47
carlosim having troubles with kubuntu 7.04 i can see Window's partition anyone knows why?12:47
ferret_0567anymous: you a advanced linux user?12:47
anymousEvilIdler, yes, am running kde12:47
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ferret_0567Or above average>12:47
anymousferret_0567, what does that mean?12:47
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ferret_0567ok, nvm12:47
anymousam using linux for over 10 years now...12:48
EvilIdleranymous: If you live and breathe obscure bash commands, that's a yes :)12:48
ferret_0567then ok12:48
ferret_0567YEah12:48
anymousyou mean like : <(:)12:48
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anymousok, i get it, just remove gdm...12:49
ferret_0567ok, to remove gdm and install kdm: sudo apt-get install kdm && sudo apt-get --purge remove kdm12:49
bxnpdoes kubuntu feisty allso have the missing codec thing12:49
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anymousgreat, will do, thx12:49
ferret_0567err... sudo apt-get install kdm && sudo apt-get --purge remove gdm12:49
anymousanother thing...12:49
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anymousduring upgrade, update-initramfs was run about 40times, is that really neccessary, takes ages on a celeron 1Ghz12:50
ferret_0567if when you logout, you get no GUI login screen, login at the console, and type: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start12:50
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EvilIdleranymous: I have the same complaint, even on a faster computer. Same thing with fonts - it really ought to be delayed until the end :(12:51
hak5fanwhat's the kubuntu eqvivalent to this: Goto System->Preferences->Sound and disable "Enable Sound Server Startup"12:51
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ferret_0567Well...I don't have all of Kubuntu installed12:52
anymousEvilIdler, the problem was, that /boot was too small, so I got always no space left on device, and after removing some linux-images, the same command had to be run again...12:52
ferret_0567If you want, you can do it this way12:52
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ferret_0567Alt+F2, type kcontrol, then press enter12:52
ionuskey combination in kubuntu12:52
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EvilIdleranymous: That's a nuisance, yes. I had some issues around Dapper because of that, and ended up making my own images with yaird12:53
ionuskey shortcuts12:53
ionus!key shortcuts12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about key shortcuts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
ferret_0567Alt+F2 = run dialog12:53
ionusmimize and maximize12:53
ionus?12:53
EvilIdleranymous: But I guess the best thing is to remove a few older kernels. I just wish it was easier remembering the names of all the kernel and image packages12:53
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ferret_0567Alt+F1 = Apps Menu (K Menu)12:53
heinkel_111wohoo torrent tracker is up....get on !12:53
anymousEvilIdler, yes, those names!12:54
ionusminimize all?12:54
EvilIdleranymous: None of them fit in an xterm. dpkg -l chops off the last part :/12:54
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lastdancedoes any1 knows how can i add the trash on the panel?12:54
anymousah, only if you put the output to a pipe, then the lines are long enough, like dpkg -l|grep linux-image12:55
ionuskey shortcuts for minimize all and maximize12:55
ferret_0567hak5fan: continuing on, click Sound and Multimedia on the left pane, click Sound System, then  uncheck "Enable the sound system"12:55
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EvilIdleranymous: Yep, then to remember all the obscure self-compiled modules for cameras and NICs :P12:55
stoftionus: show desktop - ctrl + alt+ d12:56
anymousEvilIdler, :)12:56
esbenionus: Try alt-f2, write "kcontrol", then go to Regional&accessibility->keyboard shortcuts. They are all there12:56
ionuswhere i can see all keyshortcuts12:56
anymousok, nice chatting with you, have to move on, enjoy the nice day, cu12:56
ferret_0567thanks esben12:56
ferret_0567I was typing that12:57
esbenNo idea why Kubuntu hides KControl from the users, it is a 1000 times better than the "System Settings" that is in the menu :/12:57
kblogwell, i have to go. ill return in the evening12:57
ionuswhere i can see all keyshortcuts12:57
esbenionus: See my last post12:57
EvilIdleresben: Yeah, the default is pretty similar, but you can't resize it to FIT THE DAMN ADMIN BUTTONS :P12:57
ferret_0567I saw it, ionus12:57
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esbenEvilIdler: I can't find *Anything* in the System Settings thing. The search is beyond broken, it is hopeless :/12:58
hak5fanferret_0567: ok12:58
hak5fanferret_0567: Thanks12:58
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ionusok thanks a lot12:59
ferret_0567esben, you want that nuisance gone?12:59
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ferret_0567I can oblige you12:59
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esbenferret_0567: That would be very nice :)12:59
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EvilIdlerUgh, what happened to my fonts in Opera?!12:59
EvilIdlerThey look like a broken typewriter shat all over it :(01:00
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ferret_0567esben: remove kde-systemsettings01:02
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ferret_0567I finally found it01:02
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esbenferret_0567:  thanks :)01:03
Werzi2001hi@ll01:03
EvilIdlerWorthless config program. F---- Would bash again.01:03
ferret_0567Then, you may manually add kcontrol to the menu01:03
Werzi2001does anybody know when the bug with lvm in the installer (very very slow) will be fixed?01:03
esbenof course :) But I use katapult for starting it anyway01:03
Werzi2001(in feisty)01:04
CugelDudes, when I try to change my desktop wallpaper ('configure desktop') nothing happens. Any ideas?01:04
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pollyoHello01:06
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pollyoIf I find software packaged for Edgy Eft online will it install on a Feisty system?01:07
CugelIt will.01:07
CugelI do not recommend it, though.01:07
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EvilIdlerAs long as it's not stupidly asking for exact library versions, only minimums01:07
pollyoMaybe I'll email the developers first.01:08
esbenCugel: works for me... configure, select, click apply01:08
EvilIdlerpollyo: Get the source and try building a package from there. If an older version exists in apt, there is also a neat way you can get all the requirements to build it yourself.01:08
pollyoI was just a little curious.  Anyone familiar with Elisa01:08
esbenpollyo: I find it best to either find the software in a repository, or compile by hand.01:08
pollyoSome type of media center01:08
EvilIdlerLink?01:09
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pollyohttp://elisa.fluendo.com/01:10
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EvilIdlerpollyo: Looks like it's too early for regular packages on that project. No debian directories in the source packages.01:12
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pollyoEvilIdler: Ok.  Thank you.  I'll see if they have any information on a new package.01:13
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EvilIdlerpollyo: Urge the packager to release those bits to the main project :)01:14
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MegaVoltis vpn + knetworkmanager working vor anyone here ?01:16
MegaVoltwhen i click on "configure vpn" nothing happens, no error message, simply nothing01:16
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puppetmasterHi everyone01:17
_Johnypuppetmaster: Hi01:17
puppetmasterI'm having a problem with myy rar files01:17
puppetmasterit doesn't open01:17
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_Johnypuppetmaster: What program do you use to open it?01:18
puppetmasterThe message is01:18
puppetmasterCould not open "download\amr_khaled_2.rar"01:18
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puppetmasterArchive manageer01:18
_Johny GNOME OR KDE?01:19
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puppetmastergnome01:19
imaginekde01:19
wickedpuppyhi guys .. does anyone know should i get 32 or 54 bit version if i got intel core 2 duo ?01:19
imagine48bit01:19
wickedpuppyi mean 6401:20
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_Johnypuppetmaster: Have you tried to open it in a console archiver (unrar)?01:20
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puppetmasterno is that a command01:20
puppetmasterlike01:20
_Johnyit is01:20
puppetmasterunrar fil.rar01:20
_Johny!find unrar01:20
ubotuFound: unrar-free, unrar01:20
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lastdancehi, i have a question, does any1 know how to add the trash back to the panel, it is gone after the upgrade to feisty01:21
stoftshouldn't it be "unrar x file.rar"?01:21
puppetmasterwaht01:21
_Johnyunrar-free unrar |puppetmaster01:21
puppetmasterwhat01:21
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_Johny!unrar-free unrar |puppetmaster01:21
sivaji!pastebin | sivaji01:21
_Johny!unrar |puppetmaster01:21
ubotupuppetmaster: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:21
puppetmaster!unrar-free: event not found01:21
_Johny!unrar-free |puppetmaster01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrar-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
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_JohnyIt's to be corrected01:22
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sivajiedgy to feisty upgrade error ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16781/ email add sivaji_2009@yahoo.com01:24
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_Johny!find rules01:24
ubotuFound: acheck-rules, acheck-rules-fr, oinkmaster, snort-rules-default, spamassassin-rules-ja01:24
_JohnyFactoid for users who son't know the rules?01:25
_Johnydon't know01:25
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_Johny!guidelines|sivaji01:26
ubotusivaji: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:26
pollyoEvilIdler: Someone on the #elisa chat said that it installs on feisty.01:27
EvilIdlerpollyo: Then it should be OK. Of course, installing and working are two different things ;)01:27
pollyoEvilIdler: Would not having those directories you mentioned be a problem in anyway that you can see?01:27
pollyoEvilIdler: They claim it works after installation as well. <grin>01:28
EvilIdlerpollyo: They're for the source code to be easily packaged by users01:28
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EvilIdlerpollyo: If a sourcecode tarball has the debian directory, you can build a .deb for your distro with a simple command.01:28
stoft!it01:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:28
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stoft!se01:29
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se01:29
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dennisterok kids; i need some help breaking some large mpg files into 2-3 chunks -- not compressing them -- breaking them...any ideas?01:38
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stoftmpg as in film or mpg as in audio?01:39
dennistermpg as in film, yes01:39
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EvilIdlerMPEGs are streams, so plain old split will work01:39
sivajidpkg is not working it cant accept "dpkg --configure -a" help me ple01:40
dennisteryeah? split as in cli? i didn't know that was an available command01:40
stoftdennister: otherwise take a peak at 'gopchop'. I've never used it but I think it does what you're looking for.01:40
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EvilIdlerdennister: split -b <bytes> or other options for megabytes etc. See the man page.01:41
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dennistergopchop is a program? i'll have to reboot or something...as in adept and synaptic are crashing at startup...i will check out the split man page, thanks01:42
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ubuntu__hello01:43
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ubuntu__Anyone here?01:43
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ubuntu__what can I install on kubuntu?01:44
dennisterstoft: EvilIdler: thank you both01:44
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DJ_T_DoGhi, i updated kubuntu to feisty, but now i can't access, from a windows pc, the kubuntu's shared files.. how can i solve this?01:44
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dennisterubuntu__: almost anything...what do u want to do?01:45
ferret_0567What are you looking for ubuntu__?01:45
ubuntu__erase windows, install kubuntunything01:45
EvilIdlerDJ_T_DoG: Samba has a tendency to not restart on upgrade, if that's what you used01:45
DJ_T_DoGyes i used samba01:45
ubuntu__I want games and movi ripers, and sound players01:45
DJ_T_DoGhow can i restart it?01:45
EvilIdlerDJ_T_DoG: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart01:45
ferret_0567first of all, you'll want some of those01:45
ubuntu__in console samba01:45
ferret_0567!codecs | ubuntu__01:45
ubotuubuntu__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:45
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dennisterubuntu__: you already have some music players...part of kubuntu, and acidrip is good for movie rippers01:46
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ferret_0567Please don't install WMA support though, I beg you01:46
chrismirAre there known issues with FF?01:46
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ubuntu__me??01:46
ubuntu__I want wma support!01:46
ferret_0567yes01:46
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ubuntu__I think?!01:46
ferret_0567ok01:46
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DJ_T_DoGi've done it and still have the same problem..01:46
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ubuntu__What else can I install?01:47
ferret_0567How many WMA;s do you have?01:47
plhardy!fr01:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:47
EvilIdlerWMA is a carcinogen for your system.01:47
chrismirFF coredumps on me :(01:47
ferret_0567Well...if you have all your CD's, you can get out of the WMA loop01:47
ubuntu__I want a game, any game?01:47
ferret_0567Lot's01:47
rafaelhi there, when i instaled my ubuntu.. the instalation hadn't created a boot menu01:47
rafaelhow can i make one01:48
ubuntu__Hehe01:48
ferret_0567What kind of games do you like?01:48
ubuntu__Install kubuntu01:48
ubuntu__everytype01:48
ubuntu__something like counter strike?01:48
ferret_0567I'll start with FPS01:48
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ubuntu__Is fps a game?01:48
ScarFreewill!aptfix01:48
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:48
ferret_0567Enemy Territory, Nexuiz,01:49
ubuntu__sudo apt-get install fps01:49
ferret_0567no01:49
EvilIdlerubuntu__: Check out linuxgames.com and happypenguin.org for recommendations, and see which ones are in the package repositories01:49
dennisterrafael: u mean there's no grub or lilo at bootup? do u have any other operating systems installed at all?01:49
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ferret_0567It's a game category01:49
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ferret_0567First Person Shooter01:49
ScarFreewillwar3 4 da win01:49
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rafaeldennister can u help in pvt ?01:49
ScarFreewillut cs01:49
ubuntu__The hole comand for those games to install?01:49
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dennisterpossibly, but perhaps i'm not the best to help...pls answer the question first: do u have any other OS's?01:50
rafaelyap win xp01:50
ubuntu__yeah windows xp01:50
ubuntu__But how is that relevant to get me games?01:50
dennisterand when u boot up, there's no grub menu to select kubuntu or xp?01:50
Hchmm01:51
rafaelubuntu__: he was talking to me01:51
Hccan someone explain me how to open kde wallet in console?01:51
ErunnoHc: "kwallet &" maybe ?01:51
rafaelyap exactly01:51
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ferret_0567in that FPS category: Enemy Territory, Nexuiz, World of Padman, Open Arena, Cube, Sauerbraten01:51
ferret_0567Unreal Tournament01:51
EvilIdlerAlien Arena01:51
Hcthx01:52
ubuntu__Can i install with apt-get install?01:52
pvandewyngaerdeSuddenly my USB keyboard stopped working in Feisty, i had to reboot and everything is fine now01:52
ferret_0567Some of them01:52
dennisterrafael: because if you get a choice for ubuntu or xp, that IS your boot menu...but u get no grub and so you want to make one?01:52
ubuntu__witch ones?01:52
ferret_0567Others you just extract and run, or run the installer01:52
ferret_0567Nexuiz01:52
rafaelyap that's it01:52
ubuntu__is it debian installers?01:53
ferret_0567sudo apt-get install nexuiz01:53
ferret_0567Yeah01:53
ferret_0567Well...for that game01:53
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ferret_0567Ubuntu software comes in .deb's01:53
dennisterrafael: your new installation didn't work successfully...i'm afraid i've never heard of anyone "making a grub menu"01:53
ErunnoHc: Actually, it's "kwalletmanager &"01:53
rafaelyap, im afraid so :(01:54
ubuntu__No some comes in tarballs01:54
dennisterand you certainly need someone more experienced with grub than I01:54
rafaelmaybe i'll have to reinstal ubuntu01:54
ferret_0567Welll...yeah01:54
Hcthx01:54
ferret_0567.deb's can be in tarballs, just like any other file. .deb's are already compressed though01:55
dennisterrafael: that might be faster, actually...than trying to make a grub menu...u could also read the man grub pages tho01:55
ferret_0567apt-get installs debs01:55
rafaelone more thing dennister ..01:55
ferret_0567so does Adept01:55
ubuntu__and synaptic01:55
ferret_0567yeah01:55
mefisto__is there a way to upgrade to feisty with CD in kubuntu? Every upgrade guide I can find says it requires gksu for CD upgrade01:55
dennisteryou might have the right files in your /boot/ directory...yes?01:55
ubuntu__ferret have I met you before?01:55
ferret_0567I dunno01:55
ubuntu__In Atlantik?01:56
ferret_0567no01:56
ubuntu__ok01:56
ferret_0567Never played that game01:56
ubuntu__what distro r u using?01:56
ferret_0567Kubuntu 7.0401:56
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EvilIdlermefisto__: kdesu is the KDE equivalent01:56
ferret_0567It's great!01:56
ubuntu__what is the diffrence form kubuntu *old* with new kde and 7.04?01:57
rafaeldennister:  1 got 1 gb of memory on amd 2600, what size do it alocate for the swap space01:57
ferret_0567Not much01:57
mefisto__EvilIdler: but it doesn't work with kdesu, as the guides say, it requires gksu01:57
ferret_0567Mainly newer games and stuff01:57
ferret_0567faster bootup01:57
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rafaeland yes o got acess to boot directory01:57
rafael* I01:57
EvilIdlermefisto__: That sounds a bit daft. Which program is it that doesn't work with it?01:57
ferret_0567I suggest Feisty01:57
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dennisterrafael: usually you should take your ram, multiply it by 1.5...but 1 g of ram is so plentiful 1G of swap should be fine01:57
mefisto__cdromupgrade on the install CD01:58
ferret_0567that's (K)ubuntu 7.0401:58
ubuntu__Hwo do I hack a windows computer?01:58
rafaellolol01:58
ferret_0567Why do you ask that?01:58
EvilIdlerUnless you work with heavy 3D software, swap = RAM is a good rule01:58
ubuntu__I want to impress a friend.01:58
dennisteri have 2g of ram here...and i was told i would need virtually no extra swap...i've never had a problem01:58
ferret_0567Just don't hack over the net01:58
rafaeloki01:58
ubuntu__Why not?01:58
ferret_0567If he agrees to the hacking on your own network01:59
ferret_0567Then, it's ok01:59
USMarinehttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fe_117663574001:59
ferret_0567It'll get you into legal trouble, hacking will01:59
Grahamubuntu__: Don't be a bell end and hack some poor bastard's computer. It's not a nice thing to do.01:59
ferret_0567Yeah01:59
PriceChild!ohmy02:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:00
PriceChildubuntu__, we do not condone that activity here02:00
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ubuntu__I once hacke a mud game in php, it shut down a few days later.02:00
mefisto__EvilIdler: I think the cdromupgrade script on the CD uses gksu specifically02:00
ferret_0567Learn how to hack on your own02:00
EvilIdlermefisto__: Ack, that's poopy02:00
ubuntu__ok, likn?02:00
ferret_0567If you really want to02:00
ferret_0567I'm not helping02:00
ferret_0567I don't condone the activitu02:00
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ferret_0567I don't condone the activity02:00
EvilIdlermefisto__: You'll need to install the gksu package, then, which will install a truckload of Gnome packages02:00
ubuntu__So you like windows?02:01
ferret_0567n002:01
PriceChild!offtopic | ubuntu__02:01
ubotuubuntu__: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:01
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ferret_0567I've had...problems02:01
imagineubuntu__: go play in the yard kid... and come back when you have some pub hair02:01
PriceChild!ohmy > imagine02:01
ferret_0567that's all I'm going to say02:01
ubuntu__then why can't I show a friend how bad windows is02:01
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imaginesry02:01
ubuntu__So you know how?02:01
imagineI had to02:01
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rafaeldennister: tks for your help, i think the better way is to re*instal ubuntu =)02:02
PriceChildubuntu__, Unless you have a support related question, please leave.02:02
ferret_0567Only if he agrees, only on your own network02:02
EvilIdlerIf you're in Norway, NMAP scanning is protected. But causing damage will get you in trouble.02:02
ubuntu__yes02:02
mefisto__is it possible to just add the feisty cdrom to my sources, and upgrade that way?02:02
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ferret_0567Now, any more probs with Kubuntu02:02
ubuntu__I'm in norway02:02
ferret_0567?02:02
PriceChildmefisto__, yes, if you use the alternate cd02:02
ferret_0567Want more games, and stuff?02:02
ubuntu__I need a game that instals from console, i want the hole command02:02
ubuntu__yeah02:02
mefisto__PriceChild: is that all I need to do? add alternate cd to sources.list and then just upgrade?02:03
ferret_0567sudo apt-get install nexuiz02:03
ferret_0567That's the only one that installs from a package02:03
PriceChildmefisto__, i forget the exact line, its something like "sudo apt-cdrom add foo"02:03
BoffinHello. I cannot connect to internet from kubuntu pc through windows internet connection sharing on other machine :( Could somebody help?02:03
ubuntu__The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:03
ubuntu__  nexuiz: Depends: nexuiz-data (>= 2.2.3-1) but it is not going to be installed02:03
ubuntu__E: Broken packages02:03
ubuntu__problems02:03
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ubuntu__The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:03
ubuntu__  nexuiz: Depends: nexuiz-data (>= 2.2.3-1) but it is not going to be installed02:03
ubuntu__E: Broken packages02:03
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ferret_0567then put a space, and put nexuiz-data in there and press enter again02:04
ferret_0567It's a simple fix02:04
ubuntu__big file02:04
ferret_0567yup02:04
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ferret_0567I hope your computer can handle it02:05
ferret_0567Mine can't...02:05
lewnidas_hi :)02:05
ubuntu__1 gb ram, 3.4ghz intel 4, 320gb harrdrive02:05
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ubuntu__256 mb graffics card02:05
ferret_0567NVIDIA?02:05
ubuntu__ofcourse02:06
ubuntu__Do I need a driver for nvida?02:06
imagineyes02:06
ferret_0567Yeah02:06
ubuntu__why?02:06
EvilIdlerTo drive the graphics, of course.02:06
ferret_0567So you can get use of your cards power02:06
imaginelol02:06
ubuntu__Last time I broke X server02:07
lewnidas_where from i can download the Kubuntu 7.04 Desktop amd64 DVD ?  not from torrent plz....02:07
ferret_0567!nvidia | ubuntu__02:07
ubotuubuntu__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:07
EvilIdlerWithout the driver, the CPU does all the work. And you lose all colour effects and shaders.02:07
EvilIdlerWith the driver, it's vrooooom all night long.02:07
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ubuntu__Thats why I get 1.7 fps in Counter strike02:07
ubuntu__??02:07
ferret_0567Yup02:07
imaginelol yup02:07
ferret_0567it's sad02:07
lewnidas_anyone plz ?  :/02:07
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imagine!mirrors02:07
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php02:07
ubuntu__But how do I know that I won't fuck it up?02:07
PriceChildlewnidas_, releases.ubuntu.com02:07
PriceChild!ohmy | ubotu02:08
ubotuubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:08
PriceChild!ohmy | ubuntu__02:08
ubotuubuntu__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:08
ubuntu__oh, sorry02:08
ferret_0567You follow the guide02:08
imagineubuntu__: and you wanted to hack a windows box aye?02:08
ferret_0567Yeah, he did02:08
ubuntu__yeah02:08
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imaginejust sayin..02:08
PriceChildnot in here02:08
ubuntu__and install my driver to ge force fx 550002:09
ferret_0567imagine , imagine the possibilities02:09
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EvilIdlerEverybody knows there is a huge, easily hackable stash of illegal stuff at http://127.0.0.1 :)02:09
ubuntu__yeah02:09
imagineEvilIdler: lol02:09
ferret_0567lol02:09
ubuntu__Thats my website02:09
imagineHe might take it seriously02:09
ferret_0567That's your own machine02:09
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imaginerofl02:09
ferret_0567no, it's not02:09
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ubuntu__But my ip isn't that!02:09
imagineloopback?02:10
PriceChildubuntu__, you have more than on ip02:10
ubuntu__88.91.130.102:10
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PriceChild*one02:10
ferret_0567Yeah, that's a loopback to your own machine02:10
ubuntu__thats my ip02:10
ubuntu__I have 2!02:10
ubuntu__4 one for each wireless card!02:10
ferret_0567Wow02:10
ubuntu__right?02:10
lewnidas_PriceChild i can't find anuwhere the dvd :(02:10
ferret_0567No02:11
EvilIdlerYou'll find your /etc/hosts file has that loopback address02:11
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imaginelewnidas_: isn't Kubuntu only on cds?02:11
ferret_0567Yeah02:11
EvilIdlerimagine: Also on DVD. Torrent link at kubuntu.com02:11
ferret_0567Really?02:11
imaginedidn't know  bout that02:11
ubuntu__yeah like windows.sucks leads to my website02:11
ferret_0567me neither02:11
EvilIdlerhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/dvd/kubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent02:11
EvilIdlerThat one appeared on the webpage sometime yesterday, I think02:12
lewnidas_imagine nope....02:12
ubuntu__Dvds has been there a long while02:12
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EvilIdlerBut two days ago, the DVDs were three weeks old02:12
ubuntu__why do they need 4.5 gb dvd when kubuntu only uses 700mb?02:12
root__hello02:12
EvilIdlerNow they're the final discs02:12
root__need help02:12
imaginesry I'm new to kubuntu... installing it on this machine this week02:12
lewnidas_EvilIdler in http or ftp plz?02:12
ferret_0567ubuntu__: you should install libxine-extracodecs (there might be legal issues, please look at your local laws first)02:12
EvilIdlerubuntu__: Maybe your installation does02:12
ferret_0567Extra software02:12
imagineroot__: are you logged in as root?02:13
root__got beryl installed but i dont have a bar at the top of the screen02:13
EvilIdlerlewnidas_: Sorry, they don't recommend anything but torrents ;)02:13
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LecnaCnopw02:13
ubuntu__Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:13
ubuntu__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:13
ubuntu__is only available from another source02:13
ubuntu__E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate02:13
lewnidas_EvilIdler thank u very much!!!02:13
ubuntu__It didn't work?02:13
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dennisterdoes anyone know if feisty for amd64 is ready for primetime yet? I gave up on 64-bit with edgy here, using the i386, but i'm wondering if I shouldn't give amd64 another shot?02:13
ferret_0567I'll get u a page02:14
ferret_0567!codecs02:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:14
LecnaCany ideas?02:14
EvilIdlerdennister: ISOs have been released, but several things didn't work yet02:14
ubuntu__Trow away thos crapp amd 64 bits, used one once, but I had to trash it-02:14
dennisterEvilIdler: such as?02:14
EvilIdlerdennister: Trying to find the page now02:14
dennisterk, will do02:14
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LecnaCberyl works and runs fine, but when i use the beryl window manager it maked the bar at the  top dissapere02:15
ubuntu__ferret the codec didn't work02:15
EvilIdlerdennister: There's the obvious codec issue still, but with free codecs, you get further02:15
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dennisterubuntu__: lots of things have "no installation candidate" ...this should be a temporary problem only02:15
ubuntu__ok02:16
ferret_0567just a sec...02:16
terminus_alguien habla espaol?02:16
dennisterEvilIdler: yes, apparently there's a w32codec for amd6402:16
dennisterthat's new, it didn't exist a few months ago02:16
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EvilIdlerBut free codecs are not w32codecs02:17
ferret_0567workaround: install libxine1-ffmpeg02:17
dennisteroh i know02:17
ubuntu__how do i make kubuntu norwegian?02:17
EvilIdlerFree codecs are built from source code, so you get cool stuff like Xvid and other MPEG4 variants, which are really the most common now02:17
jonathan_any advice for me?02:17
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jonathan_I'm already installed kubuntu on my system this day02:17
ubuntu__Opera won't load02:17
barravincehi all02:17
dennisterunfortunately, i haven't converted all my mp3 files yet02:18
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ubuntu__why not?02:18
pvandewyngaerdewhat is the keyboard shortcut for the start menu, i currently have no mouse02:18
barravincesorry how i can upgrade from 6.10 to 7.0402:18
barravince?02:18
ferret_0567I've never used Opera02:18
EvilIdlerubuntu__: Open the system settings and look under Regonal & Accessibility for language options02:18
ubuntu__sudo apt-get install opera02:18
ferret_0567I use Konqueror02:18
ferret_0567yeah02:18
jonathan_of course02:18
ubuntu__it is really bad02:18
ubuntu__and slow02:18
EvilIdlerubuntu__: Also make sure you pick Bokml if you hate Nynorsk :)02:18
dennister<---waiting for the repos to settle down b4 i try to upgrade from edgy to feisty02:18
barravinceis there anybody that help me?02:18
ubuntu__Korsn gjr  d?02:19
sonoftheclayr /quit02:19
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EvilIdlerubuntu__: Probably best to click the K button -> Run command -> kcontrol02:19
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dennisterin the meantime i have to safeguard all these rare films in large mpg files first02:20
EvilIdlerubuntu__: You can change language settings and region settings indepently, so if you live in Papua New Guinea, you're not required to read everything in Tok Pisin ;)02:20
Daisuke_Idodennister: now by "rare films" do you mean "nsfw"?02:21
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EvilIdlerDaisuke_Ido: No, that's 'art'02:21
Daisuke_Idoah, yes02:21
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dennisterDaisuke_Ido: what is "nsfw"? these are rare films I've recorded through tvo/mythtv02:21
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EvilIdlerNot safe for work02:22
Daisuke_Idoah02:22
Daisuke_Idoso actual rare films02:22
Daisuke_Idothat'02:22
EvilIdlerUnless you work at an art gallery/related services, or Playboy.02:22
puppetmasterHi Everyone02:22
puppetmasterI want to know how to write a proteted cd with password?02:23
Daisuke_Idoa protected cd with a password?02:23
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EvilIdlerpuppetmaster: Encrypt contents in GPG?02:23
ferret_0567ubuntu__: did you install libxine1-ffmpeg?02:23
puppetmasterI want to know how to write a protected cd with password?02:23
dennisterlol...yes, i'm a film buff...stuff that's hard to find unless you go to a huge film library and borrow the dvd's...if they exist, and many don't02:23
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puppetmasterWhat02:23
Daisuke_Idounless you burn an encrypted container with a password...02:23
puppetmasterhow to02:24
puppetmaster???02:24
EvilIdlerdennister: If it's no longer licensed, get archive.org to keep your backups :)02:24
Daisuke_Idopuppetmaster: google02:24
ferret_0567Hey!02:24
ferret_0567I'll help02:24
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Daisuke_Idothat's not an ubuntu issue :)02:24
just-this-timeprotection is in files puppetmaster rather than all cd02:24
ferret_0567No Google for me02:24
puppetmasteryou are a replacement og google02:24
pollyoIs cedega free or fee anyone know?02:24
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puppetmasterHow to my friend02:24
dennisterhmmm...archive.org, eh? i'll check into it02:24
EvilIdlerpollyo: The full one is fee02:24
ferret_0567No, I just happen to know the answer'02:24
EvilIdlerdennister: They're the ones keeping backups of damn near everything. Lame 30s propaganda movies? Yup, they've got it.02:25
Daisuke_Idothe cvs is free, but no support for the funky copy protection schemes02:25
pollyoEvilIdler: Do you know where to find the "free" version if they have one?02:25
puppetmaster?02:25
mrgvi'm creating feisty specific drivers with the ati proprietary intaller. it asks for an installation path... what should i type in pls?02:25
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EvilIdlerpollyo: You can download their free version off their CVS, so you have to compile it yourself. No support is given, and you won't get the special non-free drivers to support copy protection.02:25
Hc\\hi, can some1 tell me how to get grmonitor open? i installed it but can't open it.02:25
puppetmasterAnyone02:25
pollyoEvilIdler: I see.  Ok02:26
ferret_0567Put all the files inside a Truecrypt file and burn that, or put everything in an archive file...02:26
Daisuke_Ido!patience02:26
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:26
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puppetmasterI want to put a password on c02:26
david_Hc\\: what is gcmonitor?02:26
puppetmastercd02:26
Daisuke_Idopuppetmaster: read above02:26
Hcgrmonitor*02:26
ferret_0567and encrypt the archive with a password02:26
david_Hc\\: have you tried typing "grcomitor' into the command prompt?02:26
ferret_0567Then, you could burn that02:26
Hc\\i have02:26
EvilIdlerpuppetmaster: For the password to be any point at all, you need to encrypt the contents. Read up on encrypted archives/GPG/encrypted filesystems02:26
mrgvpuppetmaster, you want to password protect mounting the cd drive?02:26
Hc\\synaptic says that it is installed, im kinda running outta ideas02:27
puppetmasterNo02:27
david_Hc\\: ok run this "dpkg -L grmonitor | grep bin"02:27
ferret_05670o\02:27
ferret_0567ok02:27
puppetmasteri want to write a cd with a password02:27
ferret_0567Then that'll do it02:27
puppetmasterbecause it contain s all my work02:27
ferret_0567What I said above02:27
david_Hc\\: that says list files installed by this package, and show me the things put in the binary folder (the application)02:27
mrgvthen read what evil tells you above. that's what you need to do.02:27
ferret_0567The only file you'll see is that Truecrypt file/emcrypted archive02:27
Daisuke_Idoyou would just have to burn an encrypted truecrypt container or pass-protected archive02:28
Daisuke_Idoyou can't actually password-protect a cd overall, just the contents02:28
puppetmasteryes it's good idea02:28
BluesKajnew linux drivers for ATI Radeon http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html02:28
ferret_0567No, a encrypted archive or encrypted truecrypt container02:28
Hc\\david_: hmmph?02:28
mrgvor ferret's recomendation also02:28
puppetmasterI'll just put it in rar file02:28
ferret_0567That's not secure02:28
puppetmasterthen I'll protect the contents02:28
mrgvalso works02:28
ferret_0567Unless it has a encrypt option02:28
puppetmasterok02:29
Daisuke_Idowhy not, i dunno, not protect the cd, and keep the cd itself out of the wrong peoples' hands.02:29
puppetmasterhow to be secure Ferret02:29
ferret_0567Select the strongest encryption02:29
Hc\\gr_monitor, gr_gather, gr_free, gr_rup, in /usr/bin02:29
ferret_0567It's called, you read02:29
puppetmasterI want to know the exact details of encryption02:29
david_ok..run any of them then..(probably gr_monitor)02:29
ferret_0567It takes a while02:29
BluesKajso called upgrade for Feisty crashed adept this morning02:29
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mrgvrar doesn't let you choose. just defaults to aes256 if i remember correctly02:29
puppetmasterDon't you have a link to any subject related02:30
mrgvif you NEED to know, just read the included help. it mentions it there02:30
EvilIdlerEven better than encryption is to have more tempting targets around so *they* simply ignore the thing you want protected02:30
mrgvyeah link = rar help files02:30
dennisterhi BluesKaj: adept and synaptic aren't working well for lots of pps even if they haven't upgraded to feisty02:30
Hc\\david_:  thx =)02:30
david_no worries.02:30
puppetmasterok02:30
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puppetmasterthank you all02:30
mrgvnp man02:30
puppetmasterone more question please02:30
ferret_0567your welcome02:30
ferret_0567Yes?02:31
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ubuntu__I have gotten two new enitys in grub, how do I get rid of them?02:31
dennistermethinks they're still updating the repo servers02:31
puppetmasterIs there any Documention for ubuntu 7.04?02:31
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david_puppetmaster: wiki.ubuntu.org02:31
puppetmasterthank you alot02:31
BluesKajhey dennister , yeah it looks like I'm missing the repos for the upgrades in the sources list02:31
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puppetmasteryou've been very helpful02:32
david_puppetmaster: going to man:/in konqueror is also good02:32
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dennisterBluesKaj: then u know what to do, right?02:32
ubuntu__Why does I hvae 6 choises in grub?02:32
mrgv i'm creating feisty specific drivers with the ati proprietary intaller. it asks for an installation path... what should i type in pls?02:32
ferret_0567Because you updated your kernel02:32
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ferret_05672 entries to a kernel02:33
Hc\\david_:  so, how can i delete it now?02:33
ubuntu__when did I do that?02:33
ferret_0567When you update your system02:33
ubuntu__Can I update my kernel in synaptic?02:33
david_ubuntu__ the new ubuntu comes with a new kernel. but for a safety thing, they don't remove old ones02:33
BluesKajdennister, do you have the latest sources list ?02:33
david_ubuntu__ yes. you can add or remove them...but keep one!!02:33
ferret_0567Unless you know a lot, I don't recommend removing them02:34
david_Hc\\: bored of it already?02:34
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david_mrgv: I'd go for /opt02:34
dennisterno BluesKaj; i have some steps to do before i even try to upgrade, let alone fix the sources.lst file02:34
Hcdavid_ it wasn't what i was searching for02:34
ferret_0567ubuntu__: yes02:34
ubuntu__But then when I grow old I would have like a billion!02:34
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: kernels tend to be automatically updated when you upgrade in adept02:34
BluesKajok dennister , I'll look around :)02:34
ubuntu__I havent used adept02:34
dennisterlike learning how to split these huge film files02:34
david_Hc ok. just remove it in adept (or type sudo apt-get remove hrvgmonitor (or whatever it is)02:35
EvilIdlerIf you got a new kernel version at upgrade, you'll also want to reboot.Especially if you need a proprietary driver installed, like NVidia and ATI02:35
ubuntu__I use synaptic02:35
Daisuke_Idookay, then when you go to upgrade in synaptic02:35
david_use that then02:35
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ferret_0567ubuntu__: kernels tend to be automatically updated when you upgrade in synaptic/adept02:35
Daisuke_Idosame difference, it's a package manager02:35
ubuntu__No, you can't fool me in to using a driver, last time x server crashed!02:35
mrgvdavid: kubuntu has nothing in that folder though.. the default install puts nothing there.  i would like to keep with kubuntu standards as much as possible.02:35
ferret_0567Huh?02:35
Daisuke_Idoum, what are you talking about?02:35
EvilIdlerWell, you wouldn't be doing anything if you didn't have a driver.02:36
ferret_0567You already have one02:36
Daisuke_Idoah02:36
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ferret_0567Not the correct one for gaming though02:36
dennisterEvilIdler: i've got the man split page here, and looked it up on the web, too, but am still having trouble..."invalid byte size"02:36
mrgvdavid: but it will work no matter what directory i use?02:36
ubuntu__They are hidden inside kubuntu02:36
ferret_0567If you follow a good guide, you won't have problems02:36
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ubuntu__and they break x server if u use them02:36
david_dennister: what command are you typing?02:36
ferret_0567such a guide is here02:36
ferret_0567!nvidia02:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:36
david_dennister: remember to use M or K at the end of the byte size02:37
ubuntu__they are allready there02:37
ferret_0567Never happened to me02:37
david_dennister: (in upper case)02:37
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: that may be the most uninformed pointless babble i've heard all day02:37
ubuntu__quote me02:37
EvilIdlerActually, the split manpage says lowercase02:37
david_oh02:37
dennisterk this is what i typed, but it's the math issue, i'm sure: split -b 2,000,000 sleuth.mpg new02:37
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david_that one then02:37
ferret_0567quote you on what?02:37
ubuntu__daisuke02:38
dennisterit's a 5.4G file02:38
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ubuntu__said i was babbeling02:38
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ubuntu__so quote me02:38
EvilIdler'split -b 698m file.mpeg filenamepart.'02:38
Daisuke_Idowhat, you want me to quote the idiotic babbling?02:38
EvilIdlerNo commas in the numbers - it only accepts pure digits02:38
ferret_0567He said "Yes"02:38
Daisuke_Ido[08:36]  <ubuntu__> They are hidden inside kubuntu02:38
ubuntu__I do not have UBUNTU02:38
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ubuntu__I use kubuntu'02:38
dettoaltrimentido grep, awk, and sed all support regular expressions?02:38
Daisuke_Idoyou truly do test my patience02:39
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dennisterthx EvilIdler, all chunks will be about 700 MB?02:39
Daisuke_Ido[08:36]  <ubuntu__> and they break x server if u use them02:39
ferret_0567No, inside the <>'s, is your name as it appears to use02:39
ferret_0567No, inside the <>'s, is your name as it appears to us02:39
ubuntu__they did02:39
ferret_0567your name is ubuntu__02:39
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ubuntu__I used fx driver instead of nv and then x server stoped working02:40
Daisuke_Idouh02:40
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ferret_0567not fx02:40
ferret_0567it's nvidia02:40
Daisuke_Idooh my god i think my head just broke02:40
EvilIdlerdennister: 'split -b 2000m sleuth.mpg sleuth_split.' to get three chunks, with each being names sleuth_split.something02:40
ferret_0567That was a silly mistake02:40
ferret_0567look, you should follow this guide02:40
ferret_0567!nvidia | ubuntu__02:40
ubotuubuntu__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:40
Daisuke_Idoor at least stop spreading false information.02:40
ubuntu__I have a nvida geforce fx 5500 card02:41
ferret_0567He's just a little misinformed02:41
ferret_0567nvidia is the correct thing02:41
ferret_0567Trust me02:41
shawn34how do i check if an iso image is good before i burn it?02:41
ubuntu__nv is the correct driver?02:41
ferret_0567follow that guide02:41
ferret_0567no02:41
ferret_0567nvidia02:41
ferret_0567don't change yet02:41
ferret_0567follow that guide02:41
ubuntu__nv worx fx don't02:41
ubuntu__I use nv02:41
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shawn34lol02:41
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: DUH!02:41
EvilIdlerdennister: If you use the -d flag, you get numeric suffixes rather than files named .aa and on02:42
ferret_0567that's because "fx" doesn't exist02:42
Daisuke_Idosorry, that was out of line02:42
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Daisuke_Idoshawn34: k3b calculates the md5 checksum, and you can check that against the one on the site02:42
ubuntu__Nvida geforce fx 550002:42
ubuntu__my card02:42
shawn34ahh02:42
shawn34got it02:42
shawn34Daisuke_Ido, thanks02:42
Daisuke_Idoshawn34: no problem02:42
EvilIdlerubuntu__: Well, you won't get the ATI driver to work with that, if you're thinking of fglrx02:42
dennisterEvilIdler: k, so it was just the comma's that gave me the "invalid" result...i've done it now and am waiting for konsole to finish02:42
ferret_0567For your "Nvida geforce fx 5500" graphics card, you need to follow that guide, type !nvidia02:42
ubuntu__!nvidia02:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:43
EvilIdlerdennister: Yep, numbers must be 'clean'. Different countries use different symbols as thousands separators, and the command line tools just ignore that whole thing :)02:43
ferret_0567It'll tell you to change over to the "nvidia" driver02:43
ubuntu__I have the driver, it is there02:43
ferret_0567That is correct for gaming02:43
ferret_0567nv is not good for gaming, it's why you get 2 FPS02:44
dennisternow i'm wondering how long this split function will take02:44
ubuntu__No, 1.7!02:44
Daisuke_Idooh my god.02:44
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ubuntu__That is because wine is configured incorrectly.02:44
ferret_0567It's almost exactly the same as what you say02:44
EvilIdlerdennister: Depends on your harddrive(s). Splitting to the same drive you have the source on is painfully slow.02:44
Daisuke_Idono, it's not wine, its your video drivers02:44
ubuntu__No, i have kubuntu on haf of my 160 gb harddrive, and it is fast02:45
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ferret_0567paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf into the thing you get when you type !pastebin02:45
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ubuntu__Now i can't even run steam.02:45
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EvilIdlerWriting to the same drive you're reading from is always slower, no matter how magical the drive is.02:45
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dennistergreat [sic]  i did do it to the same drive...how slow is 'painfully slow'? lol02:45
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ubuntu__!pastebin02:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:45
os2macgot an OO calc question.02:45
Daisuke_Idoferret_0567: still just misinformed or are we getting closer to my original assessment?02:45
dennister1 hr? 2?02:45
os2machow do I link to another cell in a different spreadsheet in the same workbook?02:46
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EvilIdlerdennister: On a good day, copying from one drive to another (SATA) is giving me 66MB/s. But one of my drives gets me 5MB/s when creating ISOs from the same.02:46
ubuntu__ok, how do i find that info?02:46
dennisterwait...got my cursor back...hold on...02:46
EvilIdlerdennister: The pain threshold is somewhere below 10MB/s :)02:46
ubuntu__sudo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: command not found02:46
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: hit alt+f2 and type: kate /etc/X11/xorg.cong02:46
Daisuke_Idocrud02:47
ferret_0567Copy and paste it into the pastebin02:47
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: hit alt+f2 and type: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
ferret_0567Yes02:47
ferret_0567Do as he says02:47
Daisuke_Idocong isn't going to do much :D02:47
ferret_0567Thanks!02:47
ubuntu__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16802/02:47
dennisterdone! 3 chunks of 2G, 2G, and 2.9 G! success!!! :-)02:47
ubuntu__satisfyed?02:47
Daisuke_Ido!attitude02:47
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:47
ubuntu__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16802/02:47
EvilIdlerdennister: That sounds more burnable, then02:48
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Daisuke_Idooh lord02:48
ferret_0567ok02:48
Daisuke_Idooh susan, you ARE testing my patience.02:48
ubuntu__what is wrong?02:48
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dennisteryes...and movable to vfat partitions, too...and join will join them again, too, i'm sure02:48
ubuntu__it is no susan here02:48
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: copy the CONTENTS of xorg.conf to the pastebin02:48
ferret_0567yes02:49
ubuntu__oh, not the konsole thing?02:49
BluesKajanyone have URL for the "Official Feisty Sources List" ?02:49
Daisuke_Idonope02:49
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ferret_0567right02:49
ubuntu__it is emty?02:49
ferret_0567yes02:49
ferret_0567in it's entirety02:49
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Daisuke_Idoxorg.conf shouldn't be empty02:49
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pollyoI'm looking at the freeciv client in the repo -- they have a gtk and a xaw3d version for the client.  Anyone familiar with the difference?02:50
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dennistersome of these are so hard to get...i didn't want to lose them during an upgrade...and don't have enough removable media for them either, so i'm backing up to another drive02:50
ubuntu__daisuke spelled wrong ubuntu__: hit alt+f2 and type: kate /etc/X11/xorg.cong02:50
ubuntu__xorg.kong doesn't exsit02:50
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: i know, i corrected it02:50
ubuntuis there any good exchange-replacement in ubuntu?02:50
EvilIdlerIt's .conf - and sudo first02:50
dennistersleuth is a really classic film tho :) thank heaven for tvo02:50
Daisuke_IdoEvilIdler: no sudo02:50
ferret_0567ubuntu__: hit alt+f2 and type: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:51
Daisuke_Idowe want him to copy it and paste to the pastebin, not edit it right now02:51
ubuntuexchange 2007 is driving me nutt02:51
ferret_0567There's the correction02:51
EvilIdlerubuntu: Evolution? It's supposedly pretty far ahead02:51
ubuntu__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16804/02:51
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ubuntui need a small business solution02:51
ubuntu__no02:51
ubuntu__I didn't need sudo02:51
ubuntu__there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16804/02:51
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EvilIdlerubuntu: I have opened up Evolution once, and never again. It was that similar to Outlook :)02:51
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Daisuke_Idoyeah. using nv02:52
ubuntu__I told you so.02:52
Daisuke_Idookay, that's NOT the right driver02:52
Daisuke_Idowhich you've been told02:52
Daisuke_Idothat's teh default, but you're not going to be able to play games with it02:52
Daisuke_Ido!nvidia02:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:52
da_didiEvilIdler: okay, i thought of a server application like zimbra or open-exchange02:53
ubuntu__Ok, witch one is correct? The one for nvida geforce fx?02:53
Daisuke_Idofollow the guide.02:53
ferret_0567That's bad for gaming, I know for absolute sure that games are gonna run 2 FPS with nv02:53
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dennisterEvilIdler: one final math question: original was 5.4G, 3 parts of 2+2+2.9 = 6.9G...is this right?02:53
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ferret_0567type !nvidia02:53
Daisuke_Idothere is no specific geforce fx driver02:53
ferret_0567follow that guide02:53
Daisuke_Idothere's an nvidia driver02:53
ubuntu__that crap is for ubuntu02:53
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ubuntu__I use Kubuntu02:53
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Nickstehi all: I'm having some problems installing 7.04. The boot menu appears, and I am able to navigate through it with my keyboard, but when I select my install option, and the GUI starts up, my mouse and keyboard don't work. Any ideas?02:53
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EvilIdlerda_didi: Oh, are you looking for client or serer side of things here?02:53
ferret_0567This is for Kubuntu and Ubuntu\02:54
EvilIdlerdennister: That's some bad math right there. What are the files called?02:54
ubuntu__Both02:54
Daisuke_IdoYOU'RE USING UBUNTU.  KUBUNTU IS A VERSION OF UBUNTU02:54
ferret_0567Yes02:54
ferret_0567trye02:54
ubuntu__but not 7.0402:54
ferret_0567true02:54
Daisuke_Idoyes, 7.04 included02:54
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ubuntu__I use the old one, I think02:54
plsC' qualcuno che pu darmi una mano, sono appena passato dawindows a kubuntu02:54
dennistersleuth_split.aa, sleuth_split.ab, sleuth_split.ac02:54
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ubuntu__The driver is allready there02:54
stoft!ati02:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:54
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ubuntu__In monitor and disply02:54
Daisuke_Idonv02:55
ubuntu__thewy are installed02:55
ferret_0567is not correct02:55
Daisuke_Idothat's not the accelerated nvidia driver02:55
BluesKaj!es | pls02:55
ubotupls: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:55
ubuntu__I have the driver, but I choose not to use them because they break x server'02:55
Daisuke_Idoexcept that's not spanish...02:55
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dennister<-----logical thinker, and healthy-distrustful02:55
ferret_0567Never did so to me02:55
ubuntu__Si02:55
EvilIdlerdennister: OK, reality is on the blink again.02:56
ferret_0567If it breaks it for you, we need to figure out why02:56
dennisterhuh?02:56
ubuntu__I had to use the console to retrive the backup of thet config file02:56
Daisuke_Idoi'm guessing using the RIGHT driver would help.02:56
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EvilIdlerdennister: The split command is supposed to split files of the specified size, except for the last one, which will be smaller02:56
ubuntu__NV WORX02:56
ferret_0567If it works, good02:56
ubuntu__yeah02:57
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Daisuke_Idoif you're happy with nv, stop complaining about gaming02:57
Jisao!it02:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:57
ubuntu__I haven't!02:57
EvilIdlerdennister: Split a 50k file into 20k chunks, and you'll get 20k+20k+10k. Dunno what your last file did there02:57
ferret_0567Yeah02:57
Daisuke_Idobecause guess what sally, it ain't gonna cut it02:57
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dennisteroh shoot! the last one, which i thought was 2.9G, is only 2.9MB...that's right, eh?02:57
EvilIdlerdennister: How large was the original file?02:57
ubuntu__5gb02:57
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NicksteWhen I boot live cd, my mouse and keyboard freeze. How do I fix this? (7.04)02:57
dennisteryep, original file was 5.4G02:58
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ubuntu__What program shoul i use to copy dvds?02:58
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Last_Herohey guys, can someone help me? I'm going to install Kubuntu but I have some problems partitioning my drive02:58
EvilIdlerdennister: Then you should have 2GB+2GB+1.4GB now. Is the drive full?02:58
ubuntu__Screw partioning, formate the hole thiong!02:58
dennisternope...lots of room on the drive02:58
Last_HeroI want to keep my XP install -.-02:58
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Jisaowhat's the problem, Last_Hero ?02:58
ubuntu__Why have an empty partion?02:58
ubuntu__Then just follow the guide02:59
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ubuntu__What program can I use to copy dvds?02:59
ubuntu__ferrot?02:59
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: just burn dvds or copy video dvds and such?03:00
Last_Herowell, I have about 30gb of free space on the drive, and would like to asign 15Gb to Kubuntu, but the partition editor won't let me edit the size of the current partition : /03:00
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Daisuke_IdoLast_Hero: ntfs?03:00
ubuntu__yeah, and comprimate the too big dvds, and remove anti burn thingis03:00
Last_Heroyes03:00
dennisterwell i'm very glad i questioned the math :-) 5.4G should have resulted in 2G+2G+1.4G, not my current 2G+2G+2.9M03:00
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stoftwhat partition editor? qtparted?03:00
dennisterwill try again03:00
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: right now your best bet is probably wine+dvddecrypter under wine, or you can try out k9copy03:00
Last_Herothe one in the installer stoft03:00
EvilIdlerdennister: Delete those files, and check the size in exact bytes03:01
ubuntu__then i would use dvd shrink03:01
ubuntu__but ins't it any for linux?03:01
Daisuke_Idoubuntu__: that's what i do03:01
EvilIdlerdennister: I can't think of a single reason why that math doesn't add up03:01
Daisuke_Idok9copy is for linux03:01
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JisaoLast_Hero, is you free space unpartitioned, or part of your ntfs partition?03:02
Daisuke_Idobut i don't know how to work around the css problems in linux, so i stick to dvddecrypter03:02
stoftah, nm, can't help you sorry03:02
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ubuntu__counter strike source?03:02
dennisterway ahead of u...had already started to delete :)   exact bytes will require more math, tho, right? lol03:02
EvilIdlerdennister: I'd just like to see the bytesize and see what the calculator says about the gigabyte size :)03:03
Last_Herojisao, it is part of the ntfs partition, the only unpartitioned space is 8mb that the XP disk wouldn't let me add to the primary partition when I was installing XP03:03
EvilIdlerdennister: If you're looking at the size in a GUI, that's some major rounding error :)03:03
JisaoFirst, it is recommended that you defrag that partition, Last_Hero03:03
ubuntu__daisuke css= counter-strike source?03:03
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JisaoThen, you will have to resize it.  Is the installer good with that, guys, or should he use a third party software?03:04
Last_Herojisao, see, I thought so, but the estimated disk usage before and after defragging in XP were pretty much the same : /03:04
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HobbseeJisao: installer's good.03:04
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dennisteryes, i read konqueror to give you the math results above...will try the verbose option in cli03:04
MK_MikeBefore i upgraded i had this really cool shell that drops down and is really usfull does anyone know the name of it?03:04
Last_Heroapparantly there are bunches of unmovable files right in the middle of my drive03:04
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EvilIdlerdennister: Just right-click the file and select options03:05
Jisaothen your first move with the installer is to shrink the windows partition with the partitioner.03:05
ubuntu__hehe03:05
EvilIdlerdennister: Properties, even03:05
JisaoI have never done that, unfortunately, so I can't walk you through it.03:05
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ubuntu__unmovabole files in the mioddle of the drive lol03:05
Last_Herojisao, yeah, thats where I'm stuck, I select the partition -> edit partition and it only has options for file format and mount locatation03:05
adaptrMK_Mike: there are several; I've used Yakuake in the past03:06
adaptrMK_Mike: one would, however, suppose that you would know the name of something that you installed manually03:06
dennisterEvilIdler: too late now...waiting for last file to delete (xfs, slow deleting)   will do that once the new split operation is done03:07
ubuntu__Kubuntu broke my screen03:07
ubuntu__It says signal out of range!03:07
Jisaowell, give me a few minutes, Last_Hero.03:07
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EvilIdlerdennister: I mean the size of the original file03:07
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ubuntu__What should I do?03:07
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adaptrubuntu__: press ctrl-alt-+ to cycle your resolutions03:08
adaptrubuntu__: then take that resolution/refresh combo out of your config, as it obviously does not work on you rmonitor03:08
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Jisaook. ready to launch that install cd...03:09
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ubuntu__That only made me log otu03:09
Last_Herowoot, now it has an option "resize SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sad) and use freed space" think that might be it?03:09
ubuntu__Yes, go for it!03:10
dennisterEvilIdler: k, original file is 5,837,041,664 b03:10
MinceRcan i upgrade to feisty without losing beryl?03:10
riccardohello03:10
ubuntu__hello03:10
adaptrMinceR: you'll have to change repos03:10
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ubuntu__how can I be at your service?03:10
riccardodoes anybody have problems with partman during the installation?03:10
MinceRupdate-manager wants to remove it; adept doesn't change anything if i click on Full Upgrade03:10
ubuntu__n003:10
riccardoon my laptop it doesn't detect my extisting partitions03:10
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MinceRadaptr: so if i change the repo before the upgrade, i can make it through?03:10
ubuntu__hehehe03:10
riccardojust the physical disk03:11
EvilIdlerdennister: I get 5.436GB, so Konq's claim sounds right. Something else went very wrong.03:11
ubuntu__hehe03:11
riccardoso i'd have to wipe everything out to install feisty03:11
adaptrMinceR: that would be useless since you would not then be running feisty.. just update beryl afterwards03:11
MinceRi see03:11
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gan|y|medhi03:11
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EvilIdlerMinceR: I upgraded, and still have Beryl. It's in the main repo now.03:11
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MK_Mikeadaptr: thanks man03:11
tapasi wonder why everytime i starttotem it asks me what mouse settings to keep. X or Gnome ;)03:11
tapasanyways03:11
adaptrMinceR: you could just add the feisty repo now, 3rd party repos won't be touched by the distupgrade03:12
KubuntuHow do I sue opera?03:12
tapasregardless sof what i click it destroys my kde mouse settings ;)03:12
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KubuntuIt wont work!03:12
EvilIdlerKubuntu: Get a lawyer?03:12
gan|y|medthis is the first time after a kubuntu release that i don'rt have to go to the known problems page :)03:12
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KubuntuWhy?03:12
EvilIdlergan|y|med: I went there, just to know what I missed :)03:12
Last_Herojisao, its ok, I got it :D03:12
BluesKajhmmm when trying to run TVTime I get this error , which is one of many : No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images03:12
gan|y|medhow is the site for automatic sources.list creation again???03:12
tapaswhy on earth should totem play with any mouse settings at all anyways?03:13
gan|y|medEvilIdler: that'S what i am about to do, hehe03:13
Kubuntusss.automatic.sources.com03:13
adaptrBluesKaj: you need xv support, which you apparently don't have03:13
riccardoi can't format my hard drive just because feisty has a bug :-(03:13
dennisternewest sleuth_split.aa (not the one i deleted) is just over 2,097m, as is sleuth_split.ab, and sleuth_split.ac is now just over 5 million b03:13
riccardoand i'd say this is a regression03:13
riccardoedgy cd recognised my partitions03:13
EvilIdlerThe only non-standard repository I actually have is the one for Audacious03:13
gan|y|medKubuntu: that doesn't work03:13
dennistermath sounds better, no?03:14
Kubuntuwhat doesn't work?03:14
gan|y|med!ubuntu sources.list03:14
Kubuntuoh03:14
Kubuntusorry03:14
Jisao2well, Last_hero, if you select the partition, you should have a 'resize the partition' option.03:14
Kubuntuthought it would03:14
EvilIdlerI've got upgraded Beryl and NVidia drivers just fine with the defaults03:14
BluesKajyeah adaptr , and I suppose that's cuz i'm using the ATI Proprietary drivers03:14
shawn34anyone know how to add a download action to firefox? there is no 'add' button03:14
Last_Herojisao2, I restarted the installer and it had that option, installing Kubuntu now :D03:14
BluesKaj!repositories03:14
adaptrBluesKaj: well, is the xv module loaded at all ? what does xorg.log have to say about it ?03:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:14
Kubuntuthan youre online gratz03:15
Last_Herojisao2, thanks for the help, much appreciated03:15
Jisao2you're welcome, Last_Hero03:15
EvilIdlerThere's really no need to mess around with proprietary-only repositories now. Adept has options to switch all that stuff on.03:15
BluesKajadaptr,  "tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card"03:15
Kubuntusudo apt-get install opera03:16
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adaptrBluesKaj: yeah.... so, you probably don't have that, or your current driver doesn't expose it to xv - either way, you're screwed :)03:16
BluesKajit's odd tho adaptr ...I had tvtime runing before the feisty final upgrade03:16
Last_HeroI got another question, yesterday someone mentioned something that allows Kubuntu to read/write to NTFS, anyone know the name of that?03:16
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adaptrBluesKaj: you need to check which overlay methods are supported, and go form there03:17
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EvilIdlerLast_Hero: ntfs-3g03:17
BluesKajtvtime ran ok in the beta version of feisty03:17
gan|y|medhow cool is this: Hardware No issues at this time03:17
EvilIdlerNo hardware issues since 5.10, only boot issues with Dapper, and had to restart dist-upgrade for this one.03:17
EvilIdlerFar better than usual.03:17
EvilIdlerThe 7.04 upgrade manager crashed when trying to update MySQL, actually.-03:18
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ferret_0567To work around the CSS problem, play the whole DVD through, every title, chapter, you know, all of it03:18
gan|y|medEvilIdler: sry, but dist-upgrade can be a pain in the ass. messed up my last dapper install (tried egdy)03:18
ferret_0567http://travism.hopto.org/~travis/Screenshots/KDE/03:18
Last_Herothanks Evilidler03:18
ferret_0567That's my website03:18
adaptrBluesKaj: "did work", "was fine", "should work" - bullshit; better direct your energies to solving the problem :)03:19
ferret_0567How do I copy DVD's?03:19
EvilIdlergan|y|med: Yeah, it can be. I've been lucky since 5.10, though :)03:19
dennisterEvilIdler: k, first time i did the split command, the third-resulting file was too big; the second time the third-resulting file is too small...any idea as to what's going wrong? obviously i'd like results i can trust, and so I need to know what we're doing wrong here03:19
ferret_0567I want to copy one right now03:19
Kubuntuyou use dvd shrink03:19
Kubuntuand wine03:19
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Kubuntudownload dvd shrink03:20
EvilIdlerdennister: What's the exact command you typed?03:20
ferret_0567I already installed dvd:rip03:20
Kubuntuthen copy the dvd03:20
BluesKajadaptr, how about taking it easy ...I'm not blaming anyone and don't take it personally ...I had the same problem in dapper .03:20
EvilIdlerYou put the DVD in K3b and copy?03:20
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ferret_0567I guess I could try dvd shrink03:20
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Kubuntuyeah03:20
dennisterEvilIdler: the exact command is: split --verbose -b 2000m sleuth.mpg sleuth_split.03:20
adaptrBluesKaj: you mean going from dapper to edgy ?03:20
adaptrBluesKaj: presumably you solved it then...03:21
ferret_0567Evilllder: that would require playing through the whole DVD03:21
BluesKajI solved it in edgy by using envy03:21
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ewgeni90irc.freenode.net03:21
EvilIdlerferret_0567: If you just want to copy a disc, K3b reads it to a drive and writes it to another disc.03:21
adaptrBluesKaj: I don't know what that is03:22
EvilIdlerBut copying movies is more involved..03:22
BluesKajno biggie , i just switch to windows to watch tv if need be03:22
dennisterand the exact number of resulting bites in the 3 resulting files is something i added up in calculator: 4199530496...not the same as in the original file03:22
ferret_0567I can't even make a image of a movie03:22
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ferret_0567...with k3b03:22
Ayabaraanyone using the Cisco VPN client in feisty?03:22
ferret_0567no03:22
ferret_0567I use Hamachi03:22
EvilIdlerdennister: That's so wrong it sounds like you've got a defective program :(03:22
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dennisterok...which program is defective? split?03:23
gan|y|medok, there is a site, where you can have your sources.list created for you. does anybody know the address (i installed from scratch, so i lost my bookmarks)???03:23
MinceRlooks like i'll have to downgrade beryl to install feisty since the repo i've been using only supports edgy -_-03:23
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Ayabaraferret_0567, I have a cisco vpn profile for work, so I guess I'll have to use their client03:23
BluesKajenvy is a driver setup for ATI which manages to preserve direct rendering and and tvoverlay , which was mutually exclusive previously03:23
gan|y|medAyabara: i used it in dapper and edgy03:23
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EvilIdlerdennister: Seems like it. You're getting random sizes.03:24
gan|y|medAyabara: it is a pain in the ass, though. why don't export the profile and use kvpnc (+ vpnc, of course)03:24
dennisteryes, and doing same command twice gave me different results03:24
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Ayabaragan|y|med, I made it work in edgy as well, but have a little bit more trouble in feisty.03:24
zblachquick question. after going into standby/hibernate, my sound seems to fail silently (no pun). any ideas on a remedy?03:24
Ayabaragan|y|med, export it to a different format?03:25
gan|y|medAyabara: you are using the console client?03:25
EvilIdlerdennister: A manpage on the web explains the command differently. Supposedly there should be a space before the lowercase m03:25
ferret_0567How do I print realistic designed for Linux stickers?03:25
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EvilIdlerdennister: -b size m03:25
gan|y|medAyabara: no, you get the cisco client. then you install kvpnc and set it up (sometime it is a bit annoying)03:25
dennisterk well i'm gonna have to reboot here so I can get my adept/synaptic working...k, i will try that b4 rebooting03:25
gan|y|medAyabara: you search for a site (most university labs do this) that encrypts the group password and use it for kvpnc03:26
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BluesKajone good thing about Feisty ...the spdif PCM out works in the alsamixer now ...I can play cds and streams on the HT in the tvroom with the digital coax output from the pc to my HK Receiver03:27
Ayabaragan|y|med, sounds doable. thanks for the info :-)03:27
KubuntuAnnyone knows about a good opensource mud game turn/base in php/mysql for kubuntu?03:27
gan|y|medok, i found it. it's called /source-o-matic/03:28
just-this-timeBluesKaj: HK receiver ?03:28
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gan|y|medjust if anybody is interested03:28
BluesKajHK=Harman Kardon03:28
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just-this-timethese are speakers right?03:29
just-this-timereceiver and speakers that is03:29
Kubuntuwhere can i find open source php/mysql? And the simpsons?03:29
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gan|y|medAyabara: yes, and the tun module (i think it's called this way) is already compiled. no need for the cisco module (sooo kernel dependent)03:29
adaptrKubuntu: where can you find *what* ?03:29
BluesKajnope it's a Home Theater Amp/tuner 6.1 ch03:29
dennisterEvilIdler: yes, i'd found the manpage on the web, but you were more helpful :-) putting the space before the 'm', however, is giving me another error about an extra operand :(03:29
adaptrKubuntu: new to the whole Linux thing, are we ?03:29
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ferret_0567Ctrl+Alt+Del is a good comic03:30
EvilIdlerdennister: Damn. Mine works like it should, so I dunno what's wrong with your system. Are you in a partial upgrade or something?03:30
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BluesKajjust-this-time,  I use paradigm and dahlquist speakers03:30
Ayabaragan|y|med, mm. it's the kernel dependencies that are bugging me :-)03:30
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EvilIdlerdennister: Just in case, reboot, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get -f install and so on03:31
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ubuntuhey folks, I'm back03:31
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Kubuntuye, I'm new to linux03:32
just-this-timepls look at your /dev  ! there are icons with a lock and icons with an AC plug. I would like to know the meaning 'cos I onticed an FAT32  from xp2 does not show even when I intended to mount sounds like permissions thing03:32
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dennisteryes, i think it's about time for the reboot...have to fix my adept/synaptic anyway...i haven't started any upgrade yet...need to backup/save everything first03:32
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dennistersee ya soon03:32
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ubuntumy pc wont boot into kde after reboot03:32
riccardohelp :-( -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2499521#post249952103:32
ferret_0567I know how to stop automatic FAT32 >> NTFS conversion on some laptops03:32
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gan|y|medAyabara: i know, i used to have the same problem. every kernel update required recompiling, and then the version one has might be incompatible (once i had to comment out only 2 lines and it worked again)03:33
gan|y|meduse vpnc + kvpnc (or the console alone if you like)03:33
HymnToLife`recompiling of what ?03:33
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ferret_0567Wow, you should all try the Domino KDE style03:34
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ubuntuI rebooted my pc last night and left the room.....when I returned my 3 year old was in my chair smiling with that ever-so-familiar grin03:34
lilleboehallo03:34
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Last_Heroyay, Kubuntu installed, time to restar :D03:34
KubuntuI can't load internett pages, help plz.03:34
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fffcould anyone help me with ati driver?03:35
renatohi guys, I have got a bizarre problem with feisty if I start feisty in normal mode it dies on me with no signal on my sreens, I can only start it in safe mode and then Ctrl-D for normal startup. I had a similar problem during installation, I could start the installation only after changing the resolution otherwise I would get a similar outcome. I amrunning feisty x86_64 on a dual opteron board03:35
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ubuntudoes linux run ok with a quad core intel/amd?03:36
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ubuntuIi'm on a live cd, how do I mount my HD so I can back up my stuff?03:38
ubuntuI cant boot into kde03:38
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gan|y|medubuntu: are on an ubuntu live-cd?03:39
ubuntuyes, dapper03:40
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renatoubuntu, do you get a "bank screen"?03:40
ubuntuyes03:40
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renatoare you using feisty?03:40
ubuntudapper03:40
PopHi. I have a problem with xorg using up to 90 percent of cpu time. After upgrade on FF. On EE everything was ok.03:40
gan|y|medgraphics issue, probably. try save mode03:40
gan|y|medand you can't boot into kde if you have ubuntu03:41
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sc0tchAnyone experiencing lockups during install? (I go thru and pass "Ready To Install" and it locks up solid (mouse ,etc) at 15% detecting filesystems.03:41
gan|y|medPop: ironically, i had this problem in edgy, in feisty everything seems fine03:41
ubuntuno, I mean that genericly03:41
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ubuntuI have kde/kubuntu03:41
ubuntuI rebooted my pc last night and left the room.....when I returned my 3 year old was in my chair smiling with that ever-so-familiar grin03:42
renatohi guys, I have got a bizarre problem with feisty if I start feisty in normal mode it dies on me with no signal on my sreens, I can only start it in safe mode and then Ctrl-D for normal startup. I had a similar problem during installation, I could start the installation only after changing the resolution otherwise I would get a similar outcome. I amrunning feisty x86_64 on a dual opteron board. >Anybody expoeriencing the same?03:42
sivaji_2009i got both xp and kubtuntu can i browse xp system files from kubuntu03:42
gan|y|medubuntu: that doesn't tell me anything03:42
PopI cannot find solution, something to do with ati driver and xorg.03:42
gan|y|medsivaji_2009: yes, still ro in standard mount, i guess03:43
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gan|y|medPop:try fglrx03:43
ubuntuI will reboot and see if I can get a line error during bootup03:43
gan|y|medwhat do you mean?03:43
ubuntualso I can hit escape to go into the menu, but that doesnt seem to work03:44
PopYes, maybe. I use "ati" drive for I am able to run beryl+aixgl, but I can live without beryl :)03:44
sivaji_2009!shipit03:44
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.03:44
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MK_MikeHello, I'm trying to mount a win2k3 server network share on my ubuntu box, but what ever i try i can't get it to mount. any ideas?03:44
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hund_v1can anyone help me?03:46
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hund_v1i've updated to feisty03:46
hund_v1and my samba shares03:46
hund_v1disappeared03:46
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Last_Heroquick question: does Kubuntu come with FUSE or do I have to download that seperate?03:46
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hund_v1i mean, the icons are still there (on smb://hostname/)03:46
hund_v1but when i try to access it03:47
simouxwie kann ich die auflsung unter kununtu ndern03:47
hund_v1it says they don't exist03:47
simouxnvidia card03:47
hund_v1can anyone help me?03:47
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dennisterok, i'm back, and really screwed: can't get adept or synaptic to work03:47
dennistercan't even do an apt-get install update03:47
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hund_v1after updating to feisty, i can't access my samba shares on smb:/username@localhost/, even though the icons are there, when i try to open them it says tha folder doesn't exist.. what can i do?03:49
hund_v1*the03:50
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dennistercan anyone help me with cli options? everything i've tried so far results in Aborted (core dumped)03:52
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frojndhow can I find directory LC5 ? and filename LC5.exe ?03:53
ubuntucant pause boot process to write down ther error03:53
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ubuntuI guess I will just backup my datea and reinstall03:54
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dennisterLeeJunFan: hey there :)03:54
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ferret_0567I'm going to try oxine on my framebuffer03:54
ubuntuhow can I mount my HD with live cd03:54
ubuntu?03:54
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ferret_0567Hey03:55
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icewolfhi, is there a way to autologin in kubuntu 7.04? i searched google and other sites and all i get is go to system settings -> login manager. i don't see a login manager there in kubuntu 7.0403:55
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sivaji_2009!locale03:56
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf03:56
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icewolfall i see is that is remotely close top login manager is user managment and there are no options there to set autologin03:57
ubuntuis that for me?03:57
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BeauJestehello all03:58
BeauJestei have a berl question03:58
BeauJesteberyl03:58
_4strO!ask | BeauJeste03:59
ubotuBeauJeste: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:59
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ironfroggyCan Kubuntu auto-configure multiple video cards and monitors as well as it can just one?03:59
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BeauJesteamd64 feisty faun gs7000 series nvidia card all up to date04:00
Last_Herosince (according to the website) Ubuntu has support for NTFS is it a simple matter of mounting an NTFS partition somewhere (such as /media) to be able to access data on said NTFS partition?04:00
BeauJesteemerald and beryl manager installed04:00
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ironfroggyLast_Hero: i never had trouble with it, but i havent dual booted for a while.04:00
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Last_Heroironfoggy, is that a "yes"? :p04:01
BeauJesteI start beryl manager via the kicker menu but when i pick beryl as the manager all i get is white sv=creens04:01
BeauJestescreens04:01
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BeauJestethey do rotate but they are white04:01
ironfroggyLast_Hero: probably.04:01
shawn34how do i do a network install with the alternate cd? i can't seem to get a cd to burn without errors?04:02
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peyoteHi, just booted the feisty live cd. There seems to be something wrong with knetworkmanager. It shows me that my wlan is encrypted with WEP but it is a WPA network. And I cannot connect to it. Any ideas? doesnt feisty support wpa supplicant out of the box?04:02
Last_Herorofl, I think it worked, but I no longer have access rights to the media folder :p04:02
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ironfroggyyou have to mount it with the rights you want. honestly, its easier to share between windows and linux by just setting up a sambda server.04:03
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ironfroggyive got mine running on a crappy old 768mhz box, so you dont need much in spare hardware to do one.04:03
icewolfis it possible to autologin in kubuntu 7.04?04:04
Last_Heroironfroggy, I'm on a laptop and want to be able to listen to my 10gb music library on the move :p04:04
puppetmasterHi04:04
puppetmasterHow to open exe files?04:05
ironfroggyLast_Hero: cache the files for offline use04:05
ironfroggyLast_Hero: thats what i do04:05
ironfroggypuppetmaster: what does "open exe files" mean?04:06
_4strOBeauJeste: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=375604:06
puppetmasterAnyone I want to open exe files04:06
_4strOthink it can help04:06
ironfroggypuppetmaster: do you mean you want to run a windows executable?04:06
puppetmasterplay it04:06
dennistercan someone pls help me with apt/dpkg/adept/ or even synaptic? i can't install anything, or fix adept or synaptic04:06
puppetmasteryes04:06
Last_HeroI think my way is simpler tbh04:06
ironfroggywine is helpful. so is Windows.04:06
puppetmasterthat's what I meant04:06
_4strOpuppetmaster: wine your.exe04:06
puppetmasterok thanks alot04:06
puppetmasteri'll try then get back to you04:07
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_4strOdennister: what is the pb ?04:07
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ES-223741304Hi. How to install on i965 motherboard? It does not recognize SATA drives04:07
dennisteri just rebooted, but adept-noftifer crashed at startup, and everything i try in cli comes up with an error04:08
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pollyoHello04:08
dennisterthere are unmet dependencies apparently, but the solution file is "uninstallable" just get a lot of core dumps04:08
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pollyoAnyone know where I would find the crash file that would be created by a program that does a "core dump"?04:08
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_4strOdennister: ps aux | grep adept04:09
Dr_willis!severas04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about severas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
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Dr_willisHmm..04:09
_4strO!seveas04:09
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:09
Dr_willisi never can spell that right.04:09
_4strO^^ Dr_willis04:09
peyoteHi, just booted the feisty live cd. There seems to be something wrong with knetworkmanager. It shows me that my wlan is encrypted with WEP but it is a WPA network. And I cannot connect to it. Any ideas? doesnt feisty support wpa supplicant out of the box?04:10
dennister_4strO: k, i got a line of results04:10
Dr_willislooking for a repository for feisty that has google earth packaged.04:10
_4strOdennister: kill the process :p04:10
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Dr_willisguess ill just grab the .bin from google.04:11
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dennister_4strO: i tried..."no process killed"04:11
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_4strOdennister: kill n04:11
hund_v1after updating to feisty, i can't access my samba shares on smb:/username@localhost/, even though the icons are there, when i try to open them it says the folder doesn't exist.. what can i do?04:12
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_4strOdennister: you were installing some packages when it crash ?04:12
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Dr_willishund_v1,  ive heard of others with samba issues.. check the samba config file. It may of overwrote the original.04:13
hund_v1how do i do that?04:13
Last_Herosweet, got my NTFS partition available, I love Kubuntu04:13
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dennister_4strO: i tried installing something last night and it crashed...i just rebooted and it crashed immediately at startup04:14
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dennisterand I'm not having much luck killing anything...the only process that's running with the grep command is mythtv, anyway...no adept processes04:14
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_4strOdennister: try : sudo apt-get upgrade and it will give you the command to do (dpkg ... -a dont remeber exactly)04:15
ES-223741304I've searched through forums: there are many similar problems, but no solution. So, kubuntu does not support Intel 965 motherboards at all?04:15
pollyoDr_willis: I think medibuntu has google earth.04:15
dennister_4strO: i tried that...got a Abort (core dumped) result04:15
pollyo!medibuntu04:15
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/04:15
sivaji_2009linux command ebook send it to me sivaji_2009@yahoo.com04:15
dennisteralso tried sudo apt-get install -f...no joy04:15
Dr_willispollyo,  :) allready got it isntalled from the .bin - heh.  had to look up.. *shudder* RUmmage sale addresses for the wife. so she knows where to go!04:16
shawn34how can i get widgets on my desktop? and is there anything that supports yahoo widgets?04:17
Dr_willisES-223741304,  it may be more of a 'kernel not supporting them yet'04:17
Dr_willisshawn34,  superkaramba then theres applets for the panel that i prefer.04:17
Dr_willisbbl04:17
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dennisterthe only thing that's given me any specific results is: sudo apt-get install --fix-missing...it then tells me the same thing i got last night: the problem is: digikam: Depends: libgphoto2-2-dev but it is not installable04:17
_4strOdennister: sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin && rm -f /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin && sudo apt-get upgrade04:18
dennisterpermission denied :(04:18
_4strOdennister: i ommit a sudo04:19
_4strOsudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin && sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin && sudo apt-get upgrade04:19
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dennisterok...now I may be getting somewhere :) stay tuned04:20
ES-223741304Dr_willis: And what do you recommend?04:20
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_4strOdennister: no more crash dump ?04:22
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spawn57is there anyway to disable desktop icons for storage devices (like cds and usb keychains) in kubuntu?04:22
dennister_4strO: not yet...about 60% finished downloading the digikam that was being problematic04:23
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_4strOdennister: ok good :)04:23
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_4strOthen i can go to my bath :p04:23
dennisterbut then again, things have stopped just before 100% before...that's why i'm waiting for a good report until it's finished04:24
dennister_4strO: thank you :)04:24
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hund_v1ok... what do I need to change in the samba config file?04:25
_4strOdennister: the pb is not yours now, the ubuntu repo seems to be just a little slow at this time04:25
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dennisteryes...i've been blaming the feisty release for the probs with the repos04:25
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dennisterit seems to be extremely! popular04:26
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_4strO:)04:26
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shawn34OK, I've installed SuperKaramba. Added/Downloaded the Weather applet, but its not in the list? im confused. How do i add things to the desktop?04:26
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_4strOspawn57: alt-F2 and then kcontrol04:27
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hund_v1what do i need to change on the samba config file to correct the problem with the file sharing?04:27
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shawn34anyone?04:28
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hund_v1...04:28
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spawn57shawn34: try asking in kde, they might have a l'il more experience with it04:28
dennister_4strO: problem fixed! 100% and synaptic isn't crashing at startup anymore! ty, ty, ty!04:28
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spawn57_4strO: um, wehre in kcontrol =S04:29
NicksteInstalling kubuntu - trying to create an ext3 partition, and a swap partition.It will only allow me to create one partition in the free space, and then the left over space is reported as unusable. Any ideas? (7.04)04:29
_4strOspawn57: alt-F204:29
_4strOspawn57: sorry04:29
_4strOdidn't read04:29
spawn57_4strO: I'm in kcontrol, just don't know where the option is04:29
Cosmo_well that was interesting, finally got my dual monitors working right and the problem ended up being a small flaw in NVIDIA's drivers not linux's fault, the silly software from nvidia wasn't saving the file to the xorg.conf like I was telling it to do04:29
_4strOwill find04:29
hund_v1what do i need to change on the samba config file to correct the problem with the file sharing?04:30
spawn57_4strO: thanks man04:30
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hund_v1anyone?...04:32
_4strOspawn57: desktop / comportement / icons and periph04:32
pearlyNickste: primary/extended/logical partitions? there's only room for 4 primary partitions (originally), so maybe you should create an extended partion first and place ext3/swap in there?04:32
spawn57it's off in there04:32
TiLKInstalling Kubuntu 7.04 - I have updated Adept Manager, Wizzadrd told me there is new Kubuntu version. It said: Click finish to close Adept manager and run Kubuntu update manager tool. I clicked but nothing happen. I closed Adept Manager manualy but nothing happend.04:33
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_4strOspawn57: dont understand what you mean by off ?04:33
spawn57destkop / behavior / device icons/ the check box "show device icons" is unchecked04:34
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_4strOspawn57: you have 2 choices per device04:36
Last_Herorofl, I've had Kubuntu 30 minutes and I've already broken Amarok, it crashes on startup : /04:36
_4strOlol Last_Hero04:36
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spawn57oh?04:36
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Cosmo_moving on to the next problem, since installing Feisty I now have no sound, anyone know how to fix it?04:37
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hund_v1can anyone help me with that samba problem?? I really need to get it up and running...04:38
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spawn57_4strO: where is desktop /comportment?04:38
spawn57hund_v1: what's the problem?04:38
hund_v1well04:38
hund_v1since i've installed feisty04:38
blixterhi!04:38
hund_v1my samba shares' icons appear04:38
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hund_v1but when i try to access them04:38
hund_v1it says that it doesn't exist04:39
Nickstepearly: thanks for reply :) Will try so now04:39
hund_v1every single one of them...04:39
hajhousei have a problem with aptitude on a new feisty installation: it hangs at 'Building dependency tree... 50%'04:39
spawn57are they mounted?04:39
hund_v1(even wheyes04:39
hund_v1*yes04:39
spawn57try accessing them in using a shell/konsole?04:39
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hund_v1well04:39
hund_v1in kubuntu04:39
hund_v1i can access it04:39
spawn57using konqueror?04:40
hund_v1by going to /media/hda104:40
hund_v1yes04:40
Nicksteschweet it worked :)04:40
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hund_v1but if i go to smb:/username@localhost/ the icons are there04:40
spawn57how were those icons on your desktop created?04:40
hund_v1but it says that the folders don't exist...04:40
hund_v1i'm refering to the icons on the smb:/hund@hund-desktop/04:41
hund_v1or in windows //hund-desktop/04:41
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spawn57hund-desktop? thats' your hostname?04:41
hund_v1yes04:41
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spawn57..hmm04:42
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spawn57try using the ip address?04:43
hund_v1?04:43
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hund_v1instead of the localhost?04:43
ghostcubehi04:43
spawn57smb:/hund@yourip04:43
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ghostcubesomeone here updated edgy to feisty through update-manager04:43
Nicksteman, i'm getting that excited feeling that I always get before I install a new version of kubuntu :)04:43
ghostcubei noticed that i got en differetn device04:44
ghostcubein mtab04:44
pearlyNickste: good luck for the setup!04:44
Nickste:)04:44
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spawn57Nickste: double joy for me, upgraded to fiesty, and I gotta upgrade to etch04:44
ghostcubebefore update i got /dev/hda or /dev/hdb now i got /dev/mapper/sda04:44
Nicksteoooh nice!04:44
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ghostcubesomeone knows about04:44
hund_v1spawn57: it happens the same thing04:45
Nicksteis it possible to upgrade using the cd?04:45
spawn57hund_v1: same error?04:45
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hund_v1spawn57: yes04:45
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razamanazIs there anyone here who could point me to a good link for linking an Ipon Nano to Feisty?04:45
hund_v1, I've had Kubuntu 30 minutes and I've already broken Amarok, it crashes on startup : /04:46
hund_v1<_4strO> lol Last_Hero04:46
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hund_v1<spawn57> oh?04:46
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hund_v1<Cosmo_> mov04:46
hund_v1ups04:46
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Cosmo_hund_v1: mov?04:47
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spawn57hund_v1: there's a difference between /media/hda1 theyre' mounted and is accessed using the vfs, but using smb it'll use a different method.04:47
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hund_v1spawn57: the wierdest thing is that is asks for the password and username, i enter it and it enters the smb:/username@hostname/ without any problem, but then when i try to open the folders it says that they don't extist04:47
RawSewagehow do you install new kicker themes04:47
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spawn57oh04:48
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spawn57try setting the default user name and password in system settings then04:48
hund_v1?04:48
RawSewageI have a folder called Theme with kicker pngs.  How do I install it04:48
ghostcubeanyone an idea04:49
ghostcubeor en soloution04:49
ghostcube??04:49
SkrotffsIf there are two disks in a RAID, will the feisty installation read it as one or two discs04:49
ghostcubewhy are my dev/hd* disks mapped04:50
ghostcubeto sd discs04:50
ghostcubei only did update nothing else04:50
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hund_v1spawn57: it was of no use...04:51
spawn57damn04:51
nathamhi, my amarok is not trasfering song to my portable device, how can i see a more datailed erro04:51
natham?04:51
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spawn57hund_v1: not sure what's wrong...04:52
spawn57hund_v1: how did you configure samba?04:52
hund_v1i've configured it a long time ago...04:53
hund_v1it has always worked04:53
spawn57samba on your computer..04:53
hund_v1until today, when i updated to feisty...04:53
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hund_v1is there a way to reinstall samba??04:54
spawn57you edit the config04:54
ghostcubetry swat to configure it04:54
hund_v1no i didn't edit the config (or i can't remember it..)04:55
hund_v1ghostcube:??04:55
ghostcubetry swat to configure samba.conf04:55
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spawn57if the shared folders on your computer, then reconfigure it system settings04:55
ghostcubeand dont use the system settings to share04:56
yongjoin #dot04:56
spawn57heh04:56
ghostcubedisable samba a first in control center04:56
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ghostcubeand set it manually04:56
ghostcubein smb.conf04:56
hund_v1ok04:56
ghostcubeand if u wanna use it with windows set the coding to iso not to utf04:56
hund_v1btw, to remove the authentication when accessing the shares i only have to remove the security = user?04:56
ghostcubeand know someone able to tell me if the /dev/mapper/sda instead of /dev/hda is normal04:57
ghostcubeif upadtzing from edgy04:57
papahi04:57
Nicksteyo04:57
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yongpapa, hey04:58
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dennisterdoes anyone know the package that the 'split' command is part of?04:58
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spawn57damn man there's a lot of packages for that04:59
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spawn57use apt-file to find it04:59
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spawn57apt-cache search apt-file04:59
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sivajiis there any command called "clone"05:03
dennisterwell the command got me nowhere...locate found tons of it everywhere...but that doesn't mean i know which package delivers it...probably multiple packages...here's my problem: the split command is giving me very inconsistent results, so i want to reinstall it, but how if i don't know which program to install?05:03
dennistersivaji: try cp05:04
just-this-timeclone?05:04
just-this-timeclone? what for ?05:04
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ubuntu_hi quick question, whats the equivalent command on kde to get gksudo nautilus05:09
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ubuntu_whats the equivalent of gksudo i mean05:09
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sivajican i view source code of my os05:09
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just-this-time\o what is the meaning of a red plug added to icons in KDE in /dev for example05:10
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just-this-timealso what is the meaning of a lock added to icons in KDE in /dev for example05:11
just-this-timegood afternoon05:11
ubuntu_=(05:11
nathamhow can i install transkode for amarok?05:11
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just-this-timehow do I query if a package is installed ( in apt-get) ?05:13
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fdovingjust-this-time: dpkg -s <packagename>05:14
just-this-timefdoving: tyvm05:14
fdovingjust-this-time: or dpkg -l <searchstring>05:14
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just-this-timeis that -el ?05:14
fdovingjust-this-time: if you use -l, 'ii' in the first column means installed.05:14
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fdovingjust-this-time: yes, a small L05:15
just-this-timek05:15
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just-this-timel- for ?05:15
fdovinglist05:15
fdovingor something05:15
just-this-timek ty05:15
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nicksteHow do I enable beryl in the new 7.04? And also, where is the new windows import tool?05:16
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just-this-timefdoving use videolan server to see a  movie from other computer in LAN ?05:16
GrexeoI have just installed kubuntu feisty, how do I connect to my wireless WEP network?05:16
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just-this-timeuse = used05:16
fdovingjust-this-time: i don't use videolan, no.05:16
tueHello. adept crashed on me when i upgraded from feisty fawn beta (downloaded approx 3 weeks ago) to the most current version, and now eth0 has some serious issues. When i run sudo dhclient eth0, i get a lot of errors such as SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission Denied, and no ip is assigned.05:17
tueAny ideas on what can be the problem?05:17
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just-this-timetue look in /var/log05:18
EruantalonCan anyone tell me why my smb uploads to my server is only going about 24 kb/s when using the wired network and 1-2 mb/s when using wireless?05:18
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dennistersplit problem resolved :)05:19
Eruantalontue: run dpkg --configure -a05:19
tuejust-this-time: var/log/messages has errors such as dhclient 22041 down (9) but si_code == 0 and releasing==0!05:19
nickstedoes kubuntu not have the Restricted Drivers Manager tool?05:19
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Eruantalonnickste: Kubuntu doesn't get any of the cool stuff05:20
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tueEruantalon: running.05:20
MementoMorihi all05:20
mig96Is it possible to upgrade from Herd 5 to the final Feisty?05:20
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mig96(I have Herd 5 and am too lazy to download it manually :P)05:21
nickstedamn... and what about the multimedia codec download thing?05:21
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just-this-time!mplayer | nickste05:21
ubotunickste: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs05:21
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atidemciao05:21
MementoMoriI just installed feisty but I have a strange thing... I did text installation (because i've lvm) but it installed lilo instead of grub!! How can I install grub?05:21
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MementoMoriciao atidem05:22
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atidemhello MementoMori05:22
Eruantalontue: working?05:22
EruantalonCan anyone tell me why my smb uploads to my server is only going about 24 kb/s when using the wired network and 1-2 mb/s when using wireless?05:22
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woodbis there an easy way to distinguish herd5 from the real fiesty?05:22
fdovingwoodb:05:22
EruantalonWhen I download it is working with normal speed05:22
fdovingwoodb: cat /etc/issue05:23
fdovingwoodb: or cat /etc/issue.net05:23
KrAmMeRwhere do i add or remove programs from starting up a login?05:23
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fdovingwoodb: you'll see Development version, in herd.05:23
KrAmMeRat*05:23
tueEruantalon: dpkg still running. So far no serious issues have been revealed. I think my installation has been trumatized because i (in a week moment) ran sudo chown (myusername) /etc -R.05:23
LjL!startup > KrAmMeR    (KrAmMeR, see the private message from Ubotu)05:23
KrAmMeRk05:23
woodbfdoving: ah, it'll reference herd5 in there?  (mine does not, fwiw)05:23
Eruantalontue: I am not sure that would do it05:23
woodbok, cool, thanks man :)05:23
tueTried setting it back by running sudo chown root /etc -R but i fear it has caused some problems. This happened before the networking broke.05:23
EruantalonBut if you system chrashed while updating it can be in a sorry state05:24
fdovingwoodb: in the final version, it'll say 'Ubuntu 7.04'05:24
woodbyeah, ok, cool05:24
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woodbugh, adept doesn't adhere to the kde theme when using beryl05:24
KrAmMeRthats for ubuntu05:24
woodblooks like crap :(05:24
MementoMoriis there a simple (and fast) way to setup grub and remove lilo?05:24
KrAmMeRim using kubuntu05:24
fdovingwoodb: and if you've installed all the updates the herd5 became feisty final.05:24
tueEruantalon: Linux is definately traumatized when it cannot connect to the internet :-). Its really irritating because its difficult to paste output of the programs and troubleshoot the problem.05:25
soulrider_woodb: thats because its running as root, if you wanna change it, youre gonna have to change the theme as root .05:25
coreymon77okay05:25
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coreymon77here is my problem05:25
woodbah05:25
soulrider_tue: true05:25
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Eruantalontrue indeed05:25
soulrider_tue: its also traumatizing for people who dont have net access05:25
Last_Herocan anyone help me install the VLC media player? I downloaded it, but this is my first time installing something in Kubuntu so I'm kinda clueless as to what to do next : /05:25
soulrider_especially to download packages and their dependencies05:25
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coreymon77im still on edgy05:25
soulrider_!software | Last_Hero05:26
ubotuLast_Hero: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents05:26
coreymon77trryin t to install feisty05:26
coreymon77i ran adept on kdesu05:26
drinimany KDE programs are failing to start (like kubuntu device manager, breyl manager) and I?ve traced the problem (running them from console), to a locale not being set05:26
Last_Herothanks05:26
driniwhere should I fix that?05:26
soulrider_Last_Hero: you can installing it by looking for it on Adept Package Manager or by typing "sudi apt-get install vlc" in a console05:26
woodbthe (k)ubuntu community rocks05:26
coreymon77and it started doin gthings with the update tool inthe konsole window05:26
tapasLast_Hero: at a terminal type: sudo apt-get install vlc [and what ubotu said] 05:26
soulrider_Last_Hero: make sure you check out that guide, its VERY useful, youll learn a lot05:26
MementoMoriwoodb: it depends from point of views... ;)05:26
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coreymon77but, it then got to a confirmation thing05:27
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coreymon77saying that it needed confirmation to instal the update05:27
Last_Herosweet, thanks a lot soulrider, got it :D05:27
coreymon77and i dont know how to confirm it05:27
coreymon77no window poped up05:27
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Last_HeroI'll get onto that guide05:28
coreymon77i cant install feisty!!!05:28
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soulrider_Last_Hero: it would be a good idea for you to do tahat, we install things in a different way05:28
mattikI'm using kubuntu feisty with gdm. If I log off system halt and I cannot do anything.05:29
shawn34Is there anything that replaces the default panel in kde with a mac like panel?05:29
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just-this-timecoreymon77: what did you try05:30
coreymon77i tried using adept05:30
just-this-timeI soon will try that05:30
coreymon77and the update-tool didnt load05:30
just-this-timeis that what is recommended coreymon77?05:30
coreymon77however, all my repos are now feisty ones05:30
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coreymon77yesy05:30
MementoMoriis there a way to install grub from livecd? I dont want to edit menu.lst by hand05:30
Last_Herosoulrider, I am, and your help has made me a happy bunny now that I can listen to my music :D05:31
just-this-timeso if repos are feisty what about apps coreymon77 ?05:31
yomismohi there05:31
coreymon77nothing was upgraded05:31
tueEruantalon: Jubii. it worked :-)05:31
Eruantalontue: I knew it would05:32
tueive been monkeying around with it for 1 hour. didnt think that i could just tell apt to help me out.05:32
EruantalonWell apt broke it. It had better fix it05:32
soulrider_lol Last_Hero i broke my hard drive and i lost all my music, you enjoy it while you have it :P05:32
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just-this-timeis there any step-by-step instructions link you followed coreymon77 . pls paste here!05:32
tapasfor an installed package.. can i somehow find out what repo it's from?05:32
KrAmMeRso how would i add programs to startup in kubuntu?05:32
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coreymon77yes05:32
coreymon77the kubuntu ones05:32
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coreymon77on the website05:32
tapasi wonder if i still have the beryl i once installed from an unofficial page05:32
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tapass/page/repo/05:32
harryjoin #pOLSKA05:33
yomismoi have kubuntu 6.10 installed. my question is if i upgrade to version 7.04 will i keep my previous configuration for mounted drives and programs i have instaled also like amsn or vlc ? thanks...05:33
tapasKrAmMeR: startup as in "when you login"05:33
tapas?05:33
KrAmMeRyes05:33
Last_Herosoulrider, I have backups on an external just in case :p05:33
just-this-timesoulrider: learn to burn to DVDs your music05:33
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tapasKrAmMeR: add links to the program you want to run to ~/.kde/Autostart/05:33
compilerwriterAnyone else having their x-server lock up for no apparent reason?05:33
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just-this-timeand play it on DVDplayer05:33
tapasKrAmMeR: i.e.: ln -s /usr/bin/gaim ~/.kde/Autostart/05:33
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KrAmMeRk, how would i remove a program?05:34
Grexeohow do I connect to a WEP network with a static IP?05:34
EruantalonAnyone have any problems with VERY SLOW samba upload?05:34
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soulriderKrAmMeR: you can use adept or type "sudo apt-get remove <name>"05:34
shawn34Is there anything that replaces the default panel in kde with a mac like panel?05:34
just-this-timehow do I set videolan server05:34
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cox377i'm looking for a app that could batch re-size images , does anyone know anything that may do?05:34
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tapascox377: imagemagick's convert05:36
shawn34is there a channel for KTorrent?05:36
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KrAmMeRyea that will remove the program05:37
KrAmMeRbut i dont want to remove05:37
EruantalonHow hard can it be to make your programs not hang and chrash just because the filesystem(ie the network) hangs...?05:37
KrAmMeRi just want to stop it from starting automatically05:37
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driniquestion, if I set LC_ALL = "es_ES", perl always complain that it's not a supported locale, and sometimes stuff will break unless I set LC_ALL=C05:39
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driniany idea on how to make pero understand I do have es_ES installed?05:39
Last_Herodamn, my music has some horrible rasping sound constantly : /05:39
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shawn34Last_Hero, check if your using alsa05:42
Last_Heroshawn34, would that show in Adept?05:43
cox377tapas: yehjust been reading that, it says i've a;lready got it installed but there is no icon and when i type it into terminal it says unknown05:43
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Last_Heroshawn34, apparantly I am using alsa05:44
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shawn34System Settings> Sound System05:44
shawn34what audio player are you using?05:44
Last_HeroVLC05:45
cox377tapas: bash: imagemagick: command not found05:45
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tapascox377: man convert05:45
shawn34try amarok05:45
Cosmo_anyone know how to make "World of Padman" play in a window?05:45
cox377tapas: ist hat the command or?05:45
dettoaltrimenti_how can I use sed to look in a document and remove all tags (everything between the characters < and >)?05:45
Last_Heroshawn34, I broke my amarok >_> it crashes on launch05:45
tapascox377: type "man convert" in a term and you will know05:45
cox377tapas: kk, i take it tehre is no gui for it then05:46
shawn34Last_Hero, reinstall it05:46
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tapascox377: didn't you ask for a batch processing tool?05:46
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blackflag!screen05:46
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen05:46
tapascox377: convert is dead simple to use05:46
cox377tapas: haha why yes i did05:46
tapascox377: if you want something more complicated, i'm sure gimp can be scripted, too05:46
cox377tapas: i shall take a look : P05:46
sc0tchIs firefox installed on Kubuntu Feisty?05:47
shawn34Last_Hero, Adept Manager, right-click on package, select "Request Reinstall".05:47
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RictooWhere is my sources.list again? =p05:47
soulrider!software05:47
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents05:47
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shawn34Last_Hero, delete amarok settings in home folder first05:47
tapascox377: one tip: erm05:47
coreymon77Rictoo: /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
tapascox377: it's "convert -h|less"05:47
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esbensc0tch: Duno, it is easy enough to install if not05:47
tapasthe manpage is a bit scarse05:47
Last_Heroshawn34, amarok-xine, is that the package?05:47
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Rictoothanks05:47
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photonsc0tch: no05:48
shawn34Last_Hero, better yet, completely remove all amarok packages then reinstall05:48
nicksteadept is complaining that it's already open... how do I kill it?05:48
tapascox377: in the end you will want to do something like: for n in *.jpg; do convert [some options] ; done05:48
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shawn34Last_Hero, just search 'amarok' in adept manager05:48
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esbennickste: Try sudo apt-get update in a command line... it will tell you the name of the file05:48
Last_Heroamarok-xine is the only one installed05:49
nicksteta05:49
pearlydettoaltrimenti: s/<[~<>] *>//g as command pattern should do the trick... but i does process strings, so be aware of embedded '<>' signs05:49
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pearlydettoaltrimenti:  to fast... I meant: it does not process strings05:49
ForgeAusyay fiesty is out!05:49
ForgeAus(has been for about a day now uh?)05:49
coreymon77ForgeAus: two05:50
tapascox377: for n in /path/to/images/*; do convert -size 100x100 "$n" -write new_"$n"; done05:50
tapascox377: or similar05:50
tapas[make a backup first] 05:50
sstchurThe wireless card I have is constantly dropping off under linux; it never did this under windows.  Is it more likely shakey drivers for my wifi card?05:50
ForgeAus(corey my internets been down for a few)05:50
ubuntu_hi to aLL05:50
nickstesup05:50
ubuntu_please someone can help me__05:50
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ForgeAusanyhow, the kubuntu-desktop cd is a LiveCD right?05:50
kristjanhow to recover from suspend to disk failure?05:50
soulriderForgeAus: yeah, but you can install usignt he live CD too05:50
Jisaohow, ubuntu_?05:51
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ForgeAusso this is what I want ..kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso05:51
ubuntu_ehm i cant see my unit in /dev/ how can i resolve__05:51
lwelyni have a problem with ati fglrx. fglrxinfo tells me: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". . my xorg is : http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9518/ and my log is05:51
ForgeAuskewl just checking05:51
ForgeAusI know now05:51
lwelyn http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9519/05:51
ForgeAus(I did think so considering the choices... just wasn't certain)05:52
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Jisaowhat unit?05:52
ubuntu_my HD ntfs05:52
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ForgeAusif anyone has an AMD processor that I know and I want to give them a copy then I'll just have to say tough! coz I know it works on intels!05:52
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ubuntu_in windows vista i can see but in linux no05:53
Jisaosystem:/media/hda1, ubuntu_05:53
ForgeAusubuntu in vista you can mount NTFS (and or VFAT) drives05:53
dettoaltrimenti_pearly- I get the error "bash: [~: No such file or directory"05:53
soulriderubuntu_: linux is nto too fond of ntfs, but you can still make it see the drives05:53
ForgeAuserm in ubuntu sorry05:53
ForgeAusgrrr!05:53
ForgeAusyou can even write to them05:53
shawn34!ntfs05:53
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:53
ForgeAus!ntfs05:53
soulriderubuntu_: could you change your nick please?05:53
ForzaPalermohey guys i get this error when i try the distribution upgrade in kubuntu  : "Please free 447mb of space on /usr. "05:54
Jisaoor whatever drive unit it is05:54
shawn34!ntfs | ubuntu_05:54
ubotuubuntu_: please see above05:54
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: try putting single quotes (') around the expression05:54
ForzaPalermothe thing is i gave kubuntu 5 gigs of partition space05:54
ForzaPalermoi ahvent installed anything else on that drive05:54
ForzaPalermowhy wouldnt i have space05:54
ForzaPalermoany ideas on how i can fix this05:54
ubuntu_in media there is nothing05:54
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LjLdettoaltrimenti_: and anyway, that's an expression for "sed", so you need to run sed of course - sorry if i come in the discussion late =)05:54
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ForgeAusForza 5 gig should be enough05:55
ForgeAusmore than05:55
dettoaltrimenti_yeah ljl, the quotes did it, thanks05:55
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ForzaPalermoForgeAus, exaclty05:55
ForzaPalermoForgeAus, so what do i do05:55
ForgeAusI'm not certain05:55
shawn34does feisty have a newer version of kde?05:55
ForgeAuswhat shows it as full?05:55
ForgeAusshawn I think so...05:56
ForgeAusbut edgy can run the same version05:56
ForzaPalermowell the distro upgrade says i need mor space05:56
ForgeAusthe default in edgy is something like 3.5.505:56
ForgeAusbut feisty's is 3.5.605:56
ForgeAusmy current edgy already has 3.5.6 tho05:56
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shawn34ForgeAus, you know if they fixed the nvidia legaxy glx issue in feisty yet?05:56
ironfroggyCan Kubuntu auto-configure multiple video cards and monitors as well as it can just one?05:56
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ForgeAusI know nothing about Nvidia I have an ATI graphics care05:56
ForgeAusgrr card05:56
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omicronhi there! in feisty I switched knetworkmanager to manual configuration. Now I want to switch it back, so that I can get the list with the available wireless networks again as I click on the knetworkmanager applet. Does anybody know how to do that?05:57
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ForzaPalermoForgeAus, plus so does the disk management program... but what the hell could of installed on there for me to have no space... ive only isntalled beryl and a few other little things like firefox05:57
ForzaPalermoany way i can check what the cause of all this disk space is?05:57
ForgeAusironfroggy, I guess it depends no your particular card05:57
hearsayI'd like to grant only remote access for certain users to the X server, but no local access rights. Is that possible. Do I do it in kdmrc?05:57
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dettoaltrimenti_that command doesn't seem to be doing it... any other suggestions?05:57
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ForgeAuswow googlearth has my area clearly now!05:58
ForgeAusyay!05:58
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Last_Herodamn, reinstalling Amarok didn't fix it, it still crashes when I try to launch it : /05:58
dettoaltrimenti_and why doesn't sed '/<.*>/d' foo.txt not work?05:58
shawn34Last_Hero, lauch it from the terminal to see what errors it dumps05:58
ForgeAusof course I did hear its illegal to have googlearth with the current anti-terrorist legislation in Australia... which is rediculous imho05:59
ironfroggywell, assuming both cards are recognized well with kubuntu, does it even try to configure more than one card?05:59
ForzaPalermoForgeAus, any ideas?05:59
dettoaltrimenti_oh wait, it does mostly, nevermind05:59
Last_Heroshawn34, I just type "amarok" right?05:59
ForgeAusForza no, unless something went crazy and filled space unnecessarily05:59
shawn34Last_Hero, yes05:59
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ForzaPalermono way we can see whats taking up all this space?06:00
ForgeAushave you got a utility to check filesizes of files? a visual disk space util? that might give you a hint06:00
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ForgeAusyeah there are some06:00
ForzaPalermono i dont06:00
ForzaPalermowahts a good one to have06:00
dettoaltrimenti_what if I want to delete /<.*>/ and also any line that ends in a semicolon?06:00
ForgeAusforgot the precise names of them tho06:00
ForgeAusI've used one06:00
ForgeAus(had some tla or another)06:00
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ForgeAus(tla = three letter acronym)06:00
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stamenhi06:01
stamenwho can tell me a working ntp time server06:01
ForgeAusthere will be in adept, thats where I'd have got it from, its just a matter of finding it06:01
raylustamen, north-america.pool.ntp.org works for me06:01
rayluCan someone help me with kxdocker?06:01
ForgeAusI'd search for "disk space" and check out the results06:01
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stamenraylu: but for bulgaria it's not workuing06:01
stamenworking06:01
stamenraylu: I mean this server06:02
ForgeAusseems like a good filter06:02
rayluhave you tried the europe one?06:02
shawn34you guys like Kmail or Thunderbird better?06:03
stamenraylu: it gives me this for all servers: Unable to contact time server: europe.pool.ntp.org.06:03
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ForgeAusI don't think I"ve actually used Kmail...06:03
ForgeAusI do have it06:03
shawn34ForgeAus, what do you use?06:03
raylustamen, are you installing kubuntu right now?06:03
ForgeAusweb based mail mostly06:03
ForgeAushotmail et al06:03
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stamenno06:03
ForgeAusI know for pop mail that isn't any help06:04
stamenraylu: I have installed the ntp demon06:04
rayluare you on IRC on the same computer that you are trying to use NTP from?06:04
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rayluand can someone help me with kxdocker?06:04
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pearlydettoaltrimenti: depends. something like '/^.*;$/d' would delete every line ending in a semicolon; use it before the tag replacement rule (sed allows more than one command...)06:05
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pearlydettoaltrimenti: if this becomes more complicated, using python & SAX (PyXML) to do the processing might be an alternative06:06
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RictooHaha, i just saw that the new Ubuntu is gonna be called Gutsy Gibbon06:07
RictooBEFORE I saw that, I guess a name, "Grotesque Gibbon" :D06:07
Last_Heroshawn34, nothing happened, no error messages : /06:07
RictooI was half right =D06:07
Rictoo*guessed06:08
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shawn34Last_Hero, not possible, what did it say?06:08
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Last_Heronothing, I typed "amarok" and the white box went to the next line, no error  message or anything, amarok didn't open, and I could type other commands into the konsole06:09
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eljefehas anyone had issues with Kubuntu Feisty and the Medibuntu repositories?  I installed 7.04 yesterday, added in the Medibuntu repository, updates fully, rebooted... and lost everything.06:10
murphy78can anybody tell me how to install the ATI drivers06:11
soulrider!ati | murphy7806:11
ubotumurphy78: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:11
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soulriderLast_Hero: you can delete the amarok config files, but that will delete your statistics and stuff06:12
murphy78does it make a difference which version of kubuntu i'm using06:12
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Last_Herosoulrider, if that's the 'Amarok' folder in /home then I did delete it when I uninstalled it : /06:12
LjLeljefe: define "everything"....06:13
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soulriderLast_Hero: hold on a sec06:13
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kristjan!fstab06:14
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:14
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soulriderLast_Hero: why dot you purge amarok and reinstall it?06:15
soulridersudo aptitude purge amarok06:16
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kristjanhow do I get UUID of partition?06:16
twasbrillgcan anyone give me a little tech support here, Ive got an unbootable system right now06:16
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soulriderLast_Hero: also, delete this: /home/mauro/.kde/share/apps/amarok06:16
ForgeAustwas what's in your menu.lst under /boot/grub ?06:16
soulridertwasbrillg: what errors? kristjan, sorry, no idea06:17
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Last_Herokk soulrider, I'll give it a shot06:17
twasbrillgI was trying to upgrade to feisty, and I got the nvidia glx error06:17
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twasbrillgexcept now, the system hangs trying to boot, ctl alt tab doesnt even bring me to a prompt06:18
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kristjansoulrider: command is blkid to view UUID it seems06:18
eljefeLjL: 'everything' meaning my installation.  I rebooted and it forcved me into 'safe mode' and it didn't even have 'apt' installed, somehow06:18
eljefeLjL: then i rebooted again and I got to the KDE login screen somehow but it wouldn't log me in for some reason06:19
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eljefeLjL: then I rebooted AGAIN, into safe mode this time on purpose, and app my commands (like apt) were back, but my drives weren't mounted06:19
twasbrillgI get to the checking filesystem fsk part, then it just hangs06:19
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Arv3nCan anyone tell me why I have so many problems with my system and Linux?06:20
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LjLeljefe: quite unsure. in safe mode, can you check that your user actually still exists?06:21
eljefeLjL: then I messed around and really fscked things up, and not having an install disk I was forced to reinstall Feisty herd5 just to have an OS available to free up my CDR drive.  So now I am running some file copies and will then burn a new 7.04 disk and reinstall it all...06:21
LjLthat drives are not mounted is normal in safe mode, i guess06:21
LjLhm06:21
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Arv3nThe only Linux distro that has actually worked entirely is OpenSuSE.06:21
twasbrillgmy latest kernal is 2.6.17-11 generic, but I have tried 10 as well, as well, and recovery mode, nothing works, and I cant get to a command prompt in any of them either06:22
LjLwell, i know some people with feisty and medibuntu active, and i don't think they reported problems06:22
LjLbut who knows06:22
Arv3nOthers I have to disable a processor, disable USB 2.0, etc.06:22
eljefeLjL: it seems to but the extra drives weren't being mounted; hence my /home/eljefe was not there.  Then I userdel and useradd me back in, but that made my Root its own user and i never set a password for him... so i got kinda messed on that deal06:22
eljefethe reinstall was just an easier move at this point06:22
eljefebut I am afraid to reinstall from Medibuntu again06:22
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LjLeljefe: i understand. the way i always used medibuntu (on edgy too) was to just grab the .debs i needed, to be honest (since it would overwrite, say, some Amarok related packages with its own versions, which i didn't particularly like)06:23
LjLof course, you do lose automatic updating of medibuntu stuff that way06:23
eljefeArv3n: it could just be what the kernel is supporting, perhaps for some reason openSuSE has some handy things in there06:23
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twasbrillgam i facing a total wipe, or can I still recover this....this is the third upgrade that has completely bricked my system, if I cant recover it, Im going to try something else I think06:24
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eljefeLjL: I kinda liked the new Amarok that I got from Medibuntu; it had features that I never had seen before, but no change in the version number (1.4.5)06:24
Arv3nCan anyone tell me if I should upgrade my bios or not?06:25
Arv3nThat's the only solution I have.06:25
LjLeljefe: well, i didn't feel the need to check out (especially considering that, when you install a package, it's hard to downgrade), i just wanted google earth from it tbj06:25
eljefetwasbrillg: i also got bricked on my update.  Then on my reinstall! (read above).06:25
LjLh06:25
eljefeArv3n: you could try that... is it a brand new hardware/motherboard/etc?06:26
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twasbrillgeljefe, yea, but your geting a lot further along then I am06:26
Arv3nI don't know what you mean by that.06:26
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twasbrillgso why do these upgrades always break everything06:26
Arv3nThe system itself is an eMachines computer, and I bought it around 3 months ago.06:26
Arv3nI have no clue how old the hardware is.06:27
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eljefeArv3n: if its older hardware, it should be well supported.  new stuff doesn't always work immediatly because the hardware people don't like to give the Linux people information06:27
KubuntuisKinghello everyone06:27
eljefeArv3n: was it brand new?06:27
Arv3nYes.06:27
Arv3nNone of the distros work, though.06:27
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Arv3nExcept.. OpenSuSE. >_>06:27
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KubuntuisKingAnyone know the default path one should use for Sun Java 6?  Adept does not install it correctly but crashes instead.06:27
eljefeArv3n: have you spent any time looking for Ubuntu's HCL? (Hardware Compatibility List)06:28
Arv3nNope.06:28
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twasbrillgIm burning the feisty .iso now, will I be able to upgrade install that without reformatting and loosing everything?06:28
eljefeKubuntuisKing: i had that issue at one point also; you have to scroll to the bottom of the license and accept it first06:28
Arv3nI don't know if that would help, because it's with pretty much ALL the distros.06:28
kumamotoKubuntuisKing: try using aptitude to install Sun Java 6 but must install 5 before u install 606:28
Last_Herosoulrider, I purged, deleted the folder and reinstalled and it still won't work : /06:28
KubuntuisKingeljefe - thats what i did but it still crashed06:29
Arv3nThey either freeze during boot, or it boots and gives me a lot of trouble with the ATI card I have.06:29
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soulriderkumamoto KubuntuisKing you dont need to install java 5 before java 606:29
KubuntuisKingkumamoto - did that work for you?06:29
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soulriderLast_Hero: any errors on the console ?06:29
kumamotosoulrider: for some reason that is thing I found out when installing java606:29
eljefetwasbrillg: depends.  If your /home/twasbrillg is on its own partition, you can install the new base OS and keep that partition as /home (or /home/twasbrillg or however its set up).  You would have to reinstall applications, but at least the data in yout /home is saved (including config files for KDE or whatever)06:29
soulriderkumamoto: last night i installed java 6 on a fresh install06:29
Last_Herosoulrider, nope : /06:30
eljefetwasbrillg: but if /home is NOT on a diff partition or drive, then you would lose stuff I think...06:30
KubuntuisKingsoulrider from apt-get or adept or from java.com?06:30
soulriderLast_Hero: then im gonna redirect you to #amarok :P06:30
kumamotosomething about not finding some java5 file then when I installed java5 I was able to install 606:30
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kumamotoweird06:30
KubuntuisKingyeah06:30
soulriderKubuntuisKing: use adept apt-get or aptitude do do it, dont get it from the java site06:30
Last_Herosoulrider, kk, thanks for trying :D06:30
twasbrillgthat wont work, its on the same partition, i cant loose this data06:30
KubuntuisKingsoulrider - i know that i was being specific06:31
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eljefehmm then i wouldn't upgrade anything until you have a way to back it all up; in the future try to make a new /home partition just for that purpose06:31
soulriderKubuntuisKing: youre trying to install java ?06:31
twasbrillgso I guess im back to asking for help on how to get this thing to boot06:31
KubuntuisKingrgr06:31
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eljefetwasbrillg: do you have 2 cd drives, one that can write?  or an external hard drive?06:32
twasbrillgI cant boot the system06:32
kumamotosoulrider: my adept would give a half size license screen that I couldn't scroll all the way to the bottom to hit 'ok'06:32
twasbrillgi cant get any data off of it06:32
eljefetwasbrillg: best way, i think, would be to boot into a live CD and burn the data that you need with the other CD, then once its all backed up, reinstall06:32
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eljefetwasbrillg: how is that?  is it there, can you see it from a live disk?06:33
twasbrillg.............Id rather not loose the 2 days that that is going to take06:33
KubuntuisKingtx yall!  I will work on this later.  stupid java. =p06:33
eljefetwasbrillg: 2 days or your data, but something has to happen I would think... what is the issue to begin with that it won't boot?06:33
twasbrillgI really want to fix this problem, not start over everytime something goes wrong06:33
eljefetwasbrillg: i hear ya; so tell us the issue?06:33
kumamotoyeah twasbrillg tell us the issue06:34
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soulriderkumamoto: if youre still trying to install, try this command "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"06:34
soulrideror jdk, whatever applies to you06:34
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twasbrillgI was trying to upgrade to feisty, I got an error with nvidia glx, the upgrade terminated, now my system hangs when I try to boot, ctl alt f2 does not bring me to a prompt06:34
kumamotosoulrider: yup that one06:34
eljefecan you choose to boot into safe mode?06:35
kumamototwasbrillg: pastebin the error06:35
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kumamotosee y'all later06:36
twasbrillgsafe mode...I dont get to the login screen, recovery mode from grub does not work06:36
eljefeyeah thats what i meant06:36
twasbrillgthere is no error, it just hangs at checking file system fsck06:36
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eljefea failed upgrade, i have no ideas mate.  a live CD then chroot to have the Live CD's kernel work on the installed-OS might get you somewhere... then your apt commands etc would be coming from/apply to the installed OS...06:37
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twasbrillgunless fsck is something that it might need to sit for 4 hours to figure itself you06:38
eljefeaah its a filesystem issue... still don't know if i can help i suppose...06:38
eljefeit may take that long... how large is the drive?06:38
twasbrillg250gb06:38
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eljefei have 800GB here and it usually takes just a few minutes, but if it needs to rewrite files and fix the filesystem, i hae seen it take 45min06:38
twasbrillgbut shouldnt there be a progress bar, or something to indicate its doing something06:38
eljefenot necessarily06:39
jussio1could someone tell me how to make the xchat channels colourise on new messages?06:39
twasbrillgI just have a blinking cursor.....I guess I should just leave it for now?? come back in an hour?  or am I just wasting my time06:39
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jan_hallo zusammen06:40
eljefebut if you keep booting into it and interrupting the FSCK program, you are risking your data further.  fsck is reorganizing the bits and blocks of failed data writes iin the past; if you keep interrupting it you are making those faild data writes even harder to fix06:40
eljefetwasbrillg: maybe so...  do you have another machine where you can copy over the network from a live CD?06:40
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twasbrillgok, so just leave it do its thing is what im hearing.....06:40
jan_bei der installation ist adept abgebrochen06:40
jan_jetzt schein die db gelockt zu sein06:40
eljefetwasbrillg: its also possible that the FSCK program didn't install/upgrade fully and that its not doing ANYTHING06:41
jan_wie kann ich sie wieder freigeben?06:41
aldinanyone has Opera 9.10 . Build 521 for Linux. Qt library 3.3.7. http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/16842/06:41
aldini have that problem06:41
eljefetwasbrillg: for a while, yes.  but saving the data is important too, and if you get past this you might still not get a real bootup...06:41
twasbrillgsort of, im trying to eliminate starting over though06:41
twasbrillgif I can get to a command prompt, I can fix this06:41
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vcefhi06:42
vcefwtf happend with logout dialog?06:42
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twasbrillgactually it says fsck 1.4 blah blah, {ok} then a blinking cursor on the next line06:42
twasbrillgis it doing anything?06:42
Last_Heroanyone have a rough idea how long it takes Amarok to install Mp3 support?06:42
eljefehmm no idea, but prob not if it says OK...06:43
twasbrillgthats kinda what I thought originally06:43
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eljefetwasbrillg: use a live CD and chroot (change root) to the installed system; that'll gie you a command prompt06:43
eljefeLast_Hero: its just a few minutes but the window never closes on its own06:44
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ForzaPalermohey i cant upgrade by distro to feisty because it saysi need 247kb now in my /boot folder06:44
ForzaPalermohow is this possible?06:44
Last_Herokk, thanks06:45
ForzaPalermoand i cant delete anything from there06:45
vcefI've upgraded to Feisty and now I have screwed logout dialog in my KDE06:45
jussio1vcef, do you only have the one button?06:45
vcefI can only logout. No option for restart, shutdown, switch user, etc06:45
vcefyep06:45
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jussio1its a known bug06:45
twasbrillgwhen I boot into the live cd, open a terminal and just hit chroot?  or do I need to type anything else06:45
jussio1i have it too06:45
ForzaPalermocan anyone help me fix this so i can upgrade to feisty!06:45
vcefcrap06:46
vcefany solution yet?06:46
jussio1vcef, logout and shut down from there06:46
vcefyeah sure06:46
jussio1thats the solution right now06:46
eljefei am not sure... prob something like chroot /dev/hda1 or whereever your / was befor... maybe fisrt run chroot --help or man chroot, or do a quick google search from the internet-connected machine you are using now06:46
vcefbut what is actually the problem? maybe only some pixmaps are missing?06:46
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jussio1vcef, I have no idea sorry06:47
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vcefok. thank you for info. I hope it'll be fixed soon06:47
checcoWhile adding a package using apt-get I get the following error:  Cannot create link /etc/mtab~  Perhaps there is a stale lock file?  How can I fix my mtab (dunno what's wrong there)06:48
emanuele11hi06:48
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eljefevcef: i would bet its kernel implementation of hibernate etc aren't there06:48
eljefevcef: just a gues06:48
vcefI have never used hibernate because of nvidia06:48
ForzaPalermoanyone?06:48
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emanuele11I updated to feisty... I have to route my internet connection from ath0 (wlan) to eh0. what should I do?06:49
emanuele11*eth006:49
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emanuele11hey...06:51
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JohnFluxemanuele11: google for my masquerading made simple howto06:54
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soulriderdoes anyone know if theres a way to manually get cddb infor for cds in amarok? it snot finding the info for the album in listening to06:57
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gceeHello, has anybody noticed labels for smb share desktop icons cannot be changed (feisty 7.04)06:57
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ubuntu__hello07:00
ubuntu__I've lost my internet connection!07:00
ubuntu__How do I fix it?07:00
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KubuntuAnnyone here??07:00
jussi01Kubuntu, have you tried logging in and out again?07:01
Kubuntuyeah07:01
Kubuntuseveral yimes07:01
jussi01do you have a network icon in your systray?07:01
KubuntuI can acces this irc thing but not google.com bbc.ocm07:01
KubuntuOr my router settings07:01
jussi01hmmm07:01
jussi01is your browser set to offline?07:02
KubuntuI know I'm on the network, I can ping my router07:02
Kubuntull of them?07:02
jussi01youve tried more than one...07:02
KubuntuI tried opera, firefox, konqueror and epiphany!07:02
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jussi01ok, thats weird, what brought this change on?07:02
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jussi01what did you do just before it happened?07:03
Kubuntudonno, but epiphany worx now07:03
l_rhello07:03
jussi01Kubuntu, excellent07:03
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jussi01l_r, hi07:03
Kubuntufirefox is online07:03
l_ris there any link to the dvd version of kubuntu, which is not torrent?07:03
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Kubuntuconqueror too07:04
jussi01Kubuntu, good to hear07:04
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jussi01let us know if you have more probs07:04
Kubuntuand opera07:04
l_ri do not know how to handle .torrents07:04
Kubuntuthanks for the help!07:04
LjL!torrent | l_r07:04
ubotul_r: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html07:04
LjLjust use ktorrent07:04
KubuntuI donno what to do without you guys!07:04
jussi01Kubuntu, no probs07:05
KubuntuWhat MSN thing is best?07:05
chijinkopete07:05
Kubuntuok07:05
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KubuntuHow do I add smileys people send to me in kopete?07:06
KubuntuHow do I add my own smileys in kopete?07:07
ranjanKubuntu: kde-look.org07:07
l_rif you had to say in 3 things new in feisty from its predecessor, what would you say?07:08
KrAmMeRis there a clamav/klamav repository for kubuntu?07:08
ForgeAusKubuntu I don't think it has that functionality yet07:08
KrAmMeRit doesn't seem that apt has the latest07:08
Kubuntukde is newer in feisty07:08
ForgeAusKrAmMeR? apt has klamav, but not sure if it has the latest...07:08
KrAmMeRyeh it doesn't07:08
KrAmMeRi checked on the site07:09
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ranjanKubuntu: download one of the existing kopete smiley themes from kde-look.org and modify it as required07:09
KrAmMeRjust trying to get the most up to date versions07:09
l_rdoes feisty have tools to setup wireless card with WPA support now?07:09
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ranjanl_r: yes07:10
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FishyHow to install thunderbird 2 in feisty?07:12
Grahamsudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird07:13
just-this-timenoright to dvdram for k3b ?07:13
just-this-timehow to solve? kdesu ?07:14
just-this-timehow to solve without kdesu ?07:14
doppelganger_argh..   i just cannot get feisty to install on this harddrive07:14
GrahamHow to speak English?07:14
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Kubuntuhow can I make a program start automaticly?07:14
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KubuntuAt start up!07:14
LjL!startup07:15
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup07:15
kkerwinHi. Having some difficulties with the feisty dist-upgrade and upgrade kde4libs-data and powernowd. Here's a paste from apt-get: http://rafb.net/p/Av17vv80.html07:15
LjLerr sorry, i thought there was a KDE factoid07:15
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Hasrat_USAin kubuntu feisty fawn (upgraded from ubuntu edgy eft) when i click the red log out button, it only gives me the log-off button whereas i thought i was supposed to get something like this >> http://shots.linuxquestions.org/?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%207.04 how can i get the remaining buttons to show up?07:15
LjLKubuntu: just open the programs you want to be open at startup, and save the session (from the K menu)07:15
Kubuntuhow do I get rid of typing password to log into wireless assistan?07:15
doppelganger_and i'm not extremely stupid when it comes to this..  it gets to the part where it formats the partition for ext3, then says "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) failed07:15
doppelganger_what in the world can i do about that07:16
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just-this-timeljl by default  general  on k3b is not authorized to burn. bad deefault I think07:16
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jussi01Kubuntu: install libpam-keyring07:16
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wally_quick way to switch from ubuntu fiesty to kubuntu fiesty?07:16
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jussi01Kubuntu: make sure  you wallet password is the same as logon password07:16
dasnipawally_, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:16
TheCreationistHow do I enable "desktop effects" in KDE?07:17
wally_thanks07:17
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dasnipawally_, then you have to logout and choose kde as the session manager07:17
LjLHasrat_USA: 1) are you using KDM are your display manager?  2) what does  groups  typed in a terminal show?  3) in System / Advanced, click on Session Manager, do you have "Offer startup options?  4) still in System / Advanced, click Login Manager, then Shutdown, is there "Everybody"?07:17
ranjanTheCreationist: you are better off with installing beryl on kubuntu07:17
KubuntuE: Couldn't find package libpam-keyring07:18
GrahamKubuntu: There is a hidden menu in your home folder, you can place links to aplications in there to start at startup.07:18
LjLjust-this-time: not sure about that, i don't have a cd burner07:18
TheCreationistranjan: So it isn't preconfigured in Feisty?07:18
LjL!kde > wally_    (wally_, see the private message from Ubotu)07:18
jussi01Kubuntu: one sec07:18
just-this-timety07:18
ranjanTheCreationist: not for kubuntu, it is for ubuntu07:18
LjLwally_: that won't "switch" you to it, though, it'll just install KDE (all the Kubuntu packages) *additionally*. you can then choose what to use at the login screen07:18
Hasrat_USAbah wow thanks LjL allow me to try those options/tips one by one. pretty neat!07:18
GrahamKubuntu: /home/username/.kde/Autostart07:18
KubuntuI want my computer to search and log in to wireless network at start up, I have gnome and kde what should i use?07:18
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wally_terminal said it couldn't find package kubuntu07:19
TheCreationistranjan: Okay... well, gnome always gives me problems... was just curious.07:19
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LjLwally_: kubuntu-desktop, not kubuntu07:19
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Kubuntuwally_ sudo apt-get install kde07:19
EmxBAurgent, one mirror that works and is correct is missing at http://kubuntu.com/download.php07:19
LjLKubuntu: no07:19
ranjanTheCreationist: lots of tuts online, just google it07:19
EmxBAI've sent mail to mirrors@ubuntu.com but got no reply07:19
KubuntuWhat no?07:19
jussi01Kubuntu: do you have universe and multverse etc on?07:19
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KubuntuNot sure07:20
TheCreationistranjan: Oh, I've had beryl installed and working before... was just curious because I thought Feisty would include it in KDE too.07:20
just-this-timecan I get a hosting  ubuntu web admins for www.ubuntu.co.il for ppl coming to room ubuntu-il?07:20
EmxBAcan someone just add it to the site? or I must contact someone *else*?07:20
LjLKubuntu: he asked how to switch to *Kubuntu*. even installing kubuntu-desktop isn't a complete answer (since GNOME will still be there), but installing the "kde" package is even less relevant07:20
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jussi01Kubuntu: check they are on and try agaiin07:20
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Kubuntuit is just to delete gnome aftewards, genious!07:20
ranjanTheCreationist: kubuntu is always the ignored sibling07:20
Kubuntusudo apt-get remove gnome07:20
LjLKubuntu: genius, the kde packages DOES NOT INSTALL the kubuntu stuff07:20
LjLKubuntu: and no that won't work anyway07:21
TheCreationistranjan: I'm noticing that.07:21
LjL!attitude07:21
Kubuntubut the gnome packages does!07:21
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:21
LjL!kde07:21
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.07:21
TheCreationistranjan: That's so sad too... seeing how KDE is so much more polished than gnome.07:21
LjLKubuntu: the gnome package installs the kubuntu stuff? yes, right07:21
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jussi01if you want the kubuntu packages then: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:21
KubuntuNo the gnome packages installs the gnome stuff07:21
LjLjussi01: precisely.07:21
KubuntuSo I thought kde installed the kde stuff!07:22
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LjLKubuntu: it doesn't install *nearly* everything that is included in Ubuntu. just like "kde" doesn't install nearly everything that's included in Kubuntu07:22
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ranjanTheCreationist: i don't use Kubuntu, i install from alternate cd without X and then get kdecore and all packages i need, much faster than kubuntu-desktop07:22
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Kubuntubut you ccan do that later in synaptic or adept!07:22
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jussi01Kubuntu: did you get the repo's switched on?07:23
KubuntuBut can I get Kubuntu to autmaticl serach and use wireless netowrks?07:23
LjLKubuntu: so what? there is a single command that's the right command, and that's "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" (if you're on Ubuntu and want all the Kubuntu stuff), or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" (if you want the contrary)07:23
Kubuntudonno07:23
LjLinstalling "kde" or "gnome" is just a bad answer. the good answer had been given already.07:23
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jussi01Kubuntu: in adept under file->manage repositaries07:23
EmxBAanyone?07:23
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Kubuntuand then?07:23
just-this-timek3b says cdrecord has no access right to dvdrasm(/dev/scd0 ) what to do ?07:24
Hasrat_USA1) since i'm already running KDE, I bet I'm running KDM as the display manager. 2) when i typed 'groups' in the terminal, this is what i saw 'hasrat adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin' 3) in System / Advanced, click on Session Manager i have 'offer shut down options' checked and there is no 'offer startup options'. 4) yes, in the 'local' field i see everybody07:24
jussi01Kubuntu: make sure all the repos are selected07:24
LjLjust-this-time: just guessing, but are you a member of "cdrom"? (type "groups")07:24
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KubuntuI donno what repos is07:24
just-this-timechecking07:24
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KubuntuNow adept want me to upgrade to feisty fawn!07:25
jussi01Kubuntu: repositories07:25
ranjan!sources07:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:25
KubuntuShould I let it?07:25
KubuntuShould I install feistry fawn?07:25
ranjan!sources | Kubuntu07:25
ubotuKubuntu: please see above07:25
KubuntuShould I install Feisy Fawn?07:25
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jussi01Kubuntu: if you want to...07:25
KubuntuWill it make new grub enitys?07:25
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LjLHasrat_USA: well, you could easily be running KDE but with GDM or XDM instead of KDM (that's most likely if you installed Ubuntu and then only later switched to Kubuntu). but aside from that, uhm... you don't start X using startx, do you? =)07:26
Hasrat_USAi understand that sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop removes/uninstalls ubuntu but is there a single command or action that can wipe Ubuntu and all its associated applications off the system?07:26
KubuntuWhy does synaptic and adept have diffrent updates?07:26
sybuxhi07:26
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Hasrat_USALjL no i never tyoe startx07:26
LjLHasrat_USA: Ubuntu as opposed to Kubuntu, you mean? (so you *did* originally install ubuntu?)07:26
puiduciao07:26
l_rtorrent is rather slow. isn't there an .iso available on a ftp server?07:26
LjL!feisty | l_r07:26
ubotul_r: FEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/07:26
Kubuntuharsa_usa, formate the hardrive and ubuntu and all its files will dissapear!07:27
Hasrat_USAyeah i originally installed ubuntu edgy eft07:27
puiduci sono italiani qui?07:27
jussi01!it | puidu07:27
LjLl_r:uhm, that doesn't include the dvd isos07:27
ubotupuidu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:27
puiduo si hay algun espanol07:27
LjLl_r: hold on07:27
Hasrat_USAl_r: yeah07:27
LjL!es07:27
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:27
l_rLjL, indeed. i am searchign for dvds07:27
KubuntuI'm upgrading to Feisty Fawn07:27
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puidugrazie07:27
Doctor_Nick!mamma mia07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mamma mia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
puidugracias07:27
LjL!feisty-#ubuntu07:27
jussi01Kubuntu: cool07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feisty-#ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
doppelganger_hi, someone let me know when they get a chance07:27
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doppelganger_i've got a really weird issue07:28
jussi01doppelganger_: go on?07:28
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doppelganger_first of all, i only have IDE drives in my box07:28
bear#kubuntu-fr07:28
doppelganger_and when i'm installing feisty, it gets to the part where it formats the partition for ext3, then says "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI (0,0,0) (sda) failed07:28
Hasrat_USALjL yeha you're right. i first installed ubuntu and then typed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install kubuntu. two days ago i upgraded to feisty fawn. before the upgrade, kubuntu gave me the options to shut down, hibernate, suspend, log off, reboot etc07:28
KubuntuIt failed to fetch wine it said?07:28
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jussi01bear: /join #kubuntu-fr07:28
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LjLHasrat_USA: well but that means you're probably using GDM, not KDM, as your login manager. try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm 07:29
ranjanHasrat_USA: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde07:29
LjLHasrat_USA: as for removing the entire GNOME stuff, that's non-trivial, unless "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop" has decided to start working correctly in Feisty07:29
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Hasrat_USAdamn LjL you are such an expert!07:30
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Hasrat_USAlol ok thanks i'm gonna try that command now07:30
bentonnazhow do i install my /home directory to a separate partition07:30
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)07:30
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)07:30
doppelganger_it's detecting my drive as sda, not  hda as it should07:30
Hasrat_USAhopefully it won't damage the system07:30
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KubuntuWhy wont it install?07:30
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doppelganger_i don't have sata drives, nor sata capability on this motherboard07:30
Hasrat_USAthanks ranjan i am gonna check that out07:30
sybuxAny1 know how to use Intel Wireless card with Feisty. It was working fine with edgy :(07:30
jussi01Kubuntu: sounds like wines repos are down...07:30
just-this-timek3b says cdrecord has no access right to dvdrasm(/dev/scd0 ) what to do ?07:31
jussi01sybux: mine works fine...07:31
KubuntuSo I just delet the crap and I'm ready to go?07:31
just-this-time Iam member of burning and cdrom group07:31
jussi01sybux: whats your issue?07:31
just-this-timestill no joy07:31
LjLHasrat_USA: i'm quite positive that it won't. you'll need to restart X, then, to see if it did the trick07:31
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just-this-timewill put it in an ubuntu-annoying-blog07:31
sybuxjussi01: I can't connect. and in kNetworkmanager, there is no network browsed and I know there is where I am07:32
LjLHasrat_USA: actually, you'll need to go to a terminal (hit Alt+F1), login from there, and do "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop; sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start". or reboot07:32
Hasrat_USALjL should i log off, kill x and then try the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' command? or do you prefer that i do it while sitting inside KDE right now?07:32
just-this-timeanyone using k3b07:32
LjLHasrat_USA: no, you can do the reconfigure from inside X. just the last things i told you must be done from the terminal07:32
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KubuntuIs it any antiviruses for kubuntu?07:33
LjLl_r: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/07:33
LjL!info clamav07:33
ubotuclamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90.1-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 834 kB, installed size 1260 kB07:33
LjL!virus07:33
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:33
streatherhey can someone help me with wireless networking for kubuntu?07:33
streatherspecifically connecting to a wpa encrypted router07:33
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l_rwhat's the point in a virus tool for unix?07:33
EmxBALjL: gutsy repos is open?07:33
TheCreationistOkay, after updating to Feisty and installing kubuntu-desktop, my sound doesn't work in KDE, only gnome... any ideas?07:33
Hasrat_USALjL speaking of the 'last things i told you', are you talking about 'you'll need to go to a terminal (hit Alt+F1), login from there, and do "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop; sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start". or reboot' << ??07:34
LjLEmxBA: don't think so07:34
l_rLjL, thanks07:34
streatheri know theres a program that does it but i can't remember its name >.<07:34
EmxBAl_r: nothing, it just lowers your fears taht someone will do something to you :)07:34
LjLHasrat_USA: yes. but you can do that *after* the reconfigure (and you can do the reconfigure in X)07:34
l_rlol07:34
EmxBAhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/ LjL ?07:34
Hasrat_USAah okay thanks let's do it!07:34
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LjLEmxBA: well then i suppose it's open. ask in #ubuntu+1, i'm not following gutsy for now07:34
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LjLHasrat_USA: the "reboot" is not needed, but if you prefer to reboot rather than doing that from the terminal...07:35
Hasrat_USAokay07:35
Hasrat_USAomg07:35
Hasrat_USAyou're so write07:36
sybuxjussi01: any idea for my wireless connection ?07:36
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jussi01sybux: no, its a weird one, maybe someone else knows... which model do you have?07:36
Hasrat_USA'a display manager is a program that provides graphical login capabilities for the x window system. only one display manager can manage a given x server, but multiple display manager packages are installed. please select which display manager should run by default'07:37
sybuxjussi01: it's a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)07:37
Hasrat_USAselect the desired default display manager: gdm kdm <ok>07:37
jussi01sybux: weird i have exactly the same one07:37
sybuxjus07:37
sybuxjussi01: do you use Knetworkmanager to connect ?07:37
jussi01sybux: yes07:38
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just-this-timewill google that k3b rights issue07:38
Kubuntuhow do I decide where the sound comes out of my computer?07:38
sybuxjussi01: it's very strange. Do you have upgrade from edgy or install from 0 ?07:38
KubuntuNeither07:39
jussi01sybux: i installed from scratch07:39
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Hasrat_USAokay i'm gonna log off and kill x somehow and i pray and hope i won't forget these two commands sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop and sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start (just typing these commands to help my brain memorize 'em lol)07:39
KubuntuHow do I decide witch speakers kubuntu uses?07:39
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sybuxjussi01: just a silly question : how to you connect ? I mean which program, step.07:40
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Kubuntuto a wireless network?07:40
jussi01sybux: right click on the network manager, click network...07:40
Kubuntukubuntu can't use dhcp!07:40
Kubuntuhave to write the ip in manually!07:40
jussi01Kubuntu: yes it can07:40
KubuntuNot edgy!07:41
jussi01Kubuntu: feist can tho07:41
jussi01feisty07:41
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KubuntuBut I can't get feisty,  because of wine07:41
sybuxjussi01: I can only choose manula configuration07:41
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jussi01Kubuntu: remove the wine repositary07:42
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TheCreationistSince installing Feisty, my sound no longer works in KDE...  I've tried using both ALSA and OSS... checked my KMix levels... killed artds... still nothing.  Anyone have any ideas?07:42
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Hasrat_USAholy cow it worked!!!07:42
jussi01sybux: there are no networks listed?07:42
sybuxjussi01: no07:42
FishyAre there any debs available for thunderbird 2?07:42
just-this-timeok07:42
just-this-timels -l /usr/bin/cdrecord07:42
just-this-time-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-08-17 15:57 /usr/bin/cdrecord07:42
Hasrat_USAi now got log out suspend hibernate restart shut down!!!07:42
Kubuntudon't need them apt-get install thunderbird-blblbla07:43
wally_installed kubuntu-desktop, chose kdm as primary, and restarted. boot up splash was kubuntu, desktop is still ubuntu?07:43
Hasrat_USALjL: you're a divine genius no doubt!!07:43
just-this-timecdrecord must be group cdrom how do I change ? chmod what ?07:43
LjLHasrat_USA: i've just used this distribution for a while07:43
TheCreationistwally_: You need to choose your session in the login screen... change it to KDE07:43
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veganrihi, i hear 7.04 (am on 6.1) can import windows settings, but i got one of those update notices to go to 7.04, will that import my windows or do i have to use an install disk to do that07:43
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KubuntuWhy does wine have to be updated to install 7.04??07:44
jussi01sybux: go to system settings - network settings, have a look there...07:44
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sybuxjussi01: it's the same as when I choose manual settings07:45
sybuxjussi01: and another strange thing I can't select the encryption method07:45
_Johny!google IRC07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google irc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
TheCreationistSince installing Feisty, my sound no longer works in KDE...  I've tried using both ALSA and OSS... checked my KMix levels... killed artds... still nothing.  Anyone have any ideas?07:46
jussi01sybux: Im sorry, i cant help you anymore. Im fresh out of ideas07:46
sybuxjussi01: np thx07:46
KubuntuDo I have to restart after install of 7.04??07:46
jussi01Kubuntu: i imagine so07:47
Hasrat_USAthe system would automatically restart07:47
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jussi01sybux: maybe LjL can help - he has lots of experience...07:47
veganriit couldnt hurt, if nothing else try ctrl-alt-backspace07:47
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Hasrat_USAand yeah you must restart cause your kernel would be upgraded as well  and it's necessary for the system to be restarted after any change in the kernel07:47
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sybuxjussi01: so he should be very busy !07:48
jussi01sybux: he probably is...07:48
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Hasrat_USALjL is seasoned!07:48
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Hasrat_USAhe immediately fixed a problem of mine that i was loosing sleep over ever since i upgraded to feisty07:49
just-this-timesimple one how to change /usr/bin/cdrecord group from root to cdrom ?07:49
jussi01Hasrat_USA: what did he fix?07:49
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jussi01Hasrat_USA: pm?07:50
Hasrat_USAwhat?07:50
Hasrat_USAPM?07:50
TheCreationistI could sure use some help getting my sound fixed since upgrading to Feisty broke it ;)07:50
just-this-time!alsa07:51
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:51
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toxidashi all07:51
just-this-time!alsa | TheCreationist07:51
ubotuTheCreationist: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:51
toxidasi have kubuntu6.1007:52
DarthFrogHmm.  I wasn't ready to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty so when the Adept wizard asked me if I wanted to, I clicked "No".  Now that I'm ready to upgrade, Adept doesn't present any means to do so!  No "Version Upgrade" button.  No wizard.  Nuisance07:52
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sybuxany1 know how to create a bootable usbkey with ms-dos on it ?07:52
toxidaswant to upgrade to feisty but i have vmware server installed07:52
LjLew, no, i don't have network manager (because i eradicated it) and i don't have wifi =)07:52
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kubuntianfeisty is out?07:52
kubuntianis it safe to upgrade?07:52
KubuntuHow do I get rid of wine updates?07:53
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toxidasare there any problems can i use vmware server with feisty with uprade?07:53
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jussi01kubuntian: yes it should be07:53
KubuntuYes, it is safe to upgrade!07:53
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jussi01!feisty07:53
ubotuFEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/07:53
kubuntiando i need to do any "special" thing?07:53
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kubuntianor just rename the apt-sources and dist-upgrade?07:53
toxidasis there any kernel issues with vmware via festy?07:54
Kubuntugo into adept, press fetch Updates and youre online!07:54
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kubuntiani am a synapticians!!07:54
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KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)07:55
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Kubuntuthsi is the error message when it ry to install feisty!07:55
Kubuntuwhat should I do?07:55
c1|freakyi love kubunt :D07:55
KubuntutHANKS07:55
c1|freakyis there any info about the next version yet?07:55
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Kubuntuplanty07:56
Kubuntuplenty*07:56
Hasrat_USAyeah the next version is KDE 407:56
Hasrat_USAif you're brave enough go download and install the beta and help the developers beta test it07:56
Kubuntubut you cant install it if you have wine07:56
c1|freakyof kubuntu07:56
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Kubuntusudo apt-get install feisty-fawn07:56
c1|freakyi mean the next kubuntu version07:56
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Last_Herohmmm, should I be worried that I 'su' -> passwrod = authentication failure?07:56
zerakhehe almost thought they would have made it possible to update07:57
Hasrat_USAoh he is talking about kubuntu, not kde. sorry my bad07:57
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RaNDyMyZeLast_Hero: try sudo no su07:57
Last_Heroah, thanks Randymyze07:57
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RaNDyMyZeLast_Hero: if you've made a new account and want to su - into it, you have to log into it first then you can su from your acount07:58
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Last_HeroI'm trying to install the Java SDK using the instructions they give07:58
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RaNDyMyZeLast_Hero: yep, then you want to use "sudo <instruction>"07:59
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RaNDyMyZeLast_Hero: then your password07:59
frojndcan someone be so generaus and tell what must be settings done for volume (output, input and Swithces) cause I changed something and now I can't hear vocals when I play music and my microphone with headphones is f000... Can someone make a screen shot of settings for mic and headphones please?07:59
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Kubuntuhow do I install Feisy Fawn without adept?07:59
Last_Herowhat's the Linux equivelent of 'cd' (change directory)08:00
Kubuntucd08:00
Kubuntuduh08:00
edavis10Last_Hero: cd08:00
Last_Hero: /08:00
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: you can use the add/remove application, or you can use apt-get08:00
Last_Hero"cd - command not found" >_<08:00
Last_Herokk08:01
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Kubuntuno08:01
Kubuntucd is a command08:01
KubuntuI know08:01
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Kubuntulast_hero you probably spelled it wrong, it is cd!08:02
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LjLLast_Hero, what did you type exactly? (pastebin the relevant part of your terminal screen)08:03
dachi jisao08:03
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Last_Heroit's working now strangely enough08:03
dacis this live talk?08:04
LjL...08:04
LjL(minutes pass)08:04
LjL...08:04
LjLdac: no08:04
KubuntuNo, it gets posted in the paper on tuesdays!08:04
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KubuntuHow do I get feisty fawn?08:05
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LjL!feisty08:05
ubotuFEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/08:05
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KubuntuNo how do I upgrade?08:05
daci just installed kubuntu a few minutes ago.08:05
fdovinganyone know if it's possible to put the desktop icons on the second screen in a xinerama setup?08:05
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KubuntuLike sudo apt-get install kubuntu?08:05
LjL!upgrade08:06
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Kubuntu!upgrade08:06
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)08:06
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kblogback08:06
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LjLKubuntu: although... that document is a bit "on the move" these hours, at least it looked that way08:06
Flosofthey08:06
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Flosoftanyone an idea why wine isn't in the 64bit repo of feisty?08:07
fdovingFlosoft: probably because it's 32bit only.08:07
kblogi have now after the upgrade from 6.10 to feisty a problem: glob2 and at could not be upgraded08:07
LjLKubuntu: ok, it does explain it for Kubuntu too08:07
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Flosoftfdoving: why isn't there a 64 bit version?08:07
LjLkblog: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install at" and "sudo apt-get install glob2"08:08
fdovingFlosoft: no idea. you can try to ask in #winehq or something like that.08:08
Flosoftok thx08:08
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daccan you get games on kubuntu?08:09
Kubuntuyeah08:09
Last_Heroyes08:09
Kubuntuevery one08:09
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Last_HeroS2 Games are promising a Linux client at launch for Savage 208:09
dacthank you08:09
KubuntuI cant install feisty fawn it says:08:09
LjL!games > dac    (dac, see the private message from Ubotu)08:09
KubuntuError during update08:09
KubuntuA problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network proble                 m, please check your network connection and retry.08:09
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/                 Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:09
kblogLjL: both packages depends on glob-2 respectively glob-2 data which should not be installed.08:10
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kblogthats why... i cant pastebin it atm because im under console atm08:10
KubuntuHow do I remove wine?08:10
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LjLKubuntu:  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list , and comment out the wine.budgetdecicated.com repository (add a # before it)08:10
LjLKubuntu: sudo apt-get autoremove wine08:10
Kubuntucan't i remove it?08:10
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LjLKubuntu: ...?08:11
LjLkblog: uhm, my at doesn't depend on glob2 or glob2-data. and i don't have glob2 installed at all, actually08:11
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Kubuntucan I install feisty now?08:11
LjLkblog: what with "sudo apt-get install glob2-data", does it tell you why it wouldn't be installable?08:11
LjLKubuntu: you should, try08:12
kblogbrb08:12
KubuntuIt started removing everything with kde!08:12
kblogphone08:12
KubuntuLjL it removes every package that starts with k!08:12
KubuntuWhat do I do?08:13
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dacLjL,Thanks.08:13
Kubuntuhow do I paste a lot?08:13
LjLKubuntu: ok, don't accept that, and tell me what exactly you did, point by point08:13
LjL!pastebin08:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:13
LjLKubuntu: oh wait, you mean when autoremoving wine?08:13
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kkerwinHi. In Ubuntu, is there anyway to reinstall all of my packages, similar to make world in BSD style unices?08:14
KubuntuI did sudo apt-get autoremove wine08:14
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MenaHey08:14
KubuntuOut put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16858/08:14
kbloghm... i try to restart and hope that kdm starts?08:14
Kubuntume?08:14
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Menadoes some one befor try to install mageuload megananager.exe under wine befor08:14
KubuntuLjL yes08:15
KubuntuIt said: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16858/08:15
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kblogLjL: does this make sense if i just try to restart and hope that kde starts?08:15
KubuntuYes08:15
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Menabec eevery time i install it i got a message a bout (remove history,jobs,download) some like that and megamanger wont run08:15
LjLkblog: *shrug* dunno08:15
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LjLKubuntu: err, you could have told it "no"... anyway, now type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", and prepare to wait08:16
doppelganger_guys, any idea why feisty is seeing my drives as SATA and not IDE?08:16
kblogwho might know that?08:16
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KubuntuIs this bad? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16859/08:16
acemosudo apt-get modprobe speedstep-centrino doesnt works.. in wich file can i manually put this?08:16
Kubuntuwhat have I done? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16859/08:16
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KubuntuLjL what happened?08:17
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LjLKubuntu: you've just accepted to remove most of the packages on your system08:17
LjLKubuntu: type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"08:17
Menais there a recomnded liberaries to add on wine to make all programes work08:17
Kubuntuwhy did you tell me to do that?08:17
Menaany help here for ...is there a channel for it08:18
Menaplz08:18
KubuntuLjL why did you tell me to do that?08:18
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LjLKubuntu: i told you to remove wine, which would normally *not* suggest you to remove about 200 other packages08:18
LjLKubuntu: still, it *did* ask you whether you would accept the action or not before doing it08:18
LjLyou pressed Enter08:18
LjLnext time read before pressing Enter, maybe08:18
KubuntuLjL sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop only installed a few packages, not the 200 you removed!08:18
LjLno, the 200 you removed.08:19
KubuntuYou gave me the command and said it would remove wine08:19
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Menahow to secrh channels08:20
KubuntuLjL how do I get the files back? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:20
Menasearch*08:20
KubuntuI did this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16859/ how do I fix it?08:20
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acemosudo apt-get modprobe speedstep-centrino doesnt works.. in wich file can i manually put this?08:21
acemoFATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy08:21
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Kubuntuis kde-core an imortant package?08:21
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mr_pinkhi08:21
KubuntuLjL plz help I need thes packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16859/08:21
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LjLholy cow, it seems i have a hard time realizing just how long something i paste is08:22
mr_pinkis there an netinstall like in debian08:22
g35!mozilla-thunderbird08:22
LjLKubuntu: anyway, sudo apt-get install all-those-package-that-are-listed-in-the-pastebin08:22
mr_pink?08:22
LjLKubuntu: what do you think? yes08:22
LjLKubuntu: you might as well *first* upgrade to feisty and *then* reinstall all that stuff, it will save you quite a bit of downloading08:22
Kubuntujust copy them all?08:22
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LjLKubuntu: sudo apt-get install all-those-package-that-are-listed-in-the-pastebin08:23
LjLyes08:23
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LjLbut upgrade to feisty first or you'll download a ton of useless stuff08:23
g35hi, thunderbird 2 isnt in the repos yet, how can i install it via the tar.gz?08:23
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Mena!search08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
heyepicHas anyone ever lost their soundcard after reboot? I installed Ubuntu last night and the soundcard worked, now - not so much.08:23
ericHey, how would I go about installing flash player for Konquerer?08:23
KubuntuLjL wine is still not gone! How do I remove it http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz08:23
Mena!flash08:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:23
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash08:23
LjLKubuntu: "sudo apt-get update"08:24
ericthank you!08:24
lwelynCan somebody have a look at my xorg.conf http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9524/ and tell me where the problem is? ( it tells display not set )08:24
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zorglu_anybody know why flash is so much slower on linux than on window ?08:24
g35how can you get ubotu to check the repos?08:24
KubuntuW: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE26308:24
KubuntuW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:24
KubuntuE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.08:24
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Kubuntuthis is the error, how to fix?08:24
KubuntuLjL how?08:24
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zorglu_g35: sudo apt-get update08:25
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Menazorglu_, who said that i have flas working with firefox (good)08:25
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zorglu_Kubuntu: install the key for their repository, it should be somewhere on their site08:25
Menazorglu_, maybe that bec of the Memory(Ram)08:25
compengii'm trying to run k3b on ordinary ubuntu feisty but it gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16856/ when i try to start it08:25
mr_pinkhi08:25
zorglu_Mena: ?08:25
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mr_pinkdoes anybody know if there is an netinstall of kubuntun like in debian08:26
mr_pink?08:26
sulani'm going crazy over here.. trying to get s/mime working with kmail, and it's very close now.  I just can't seem to decrypt mails i have received, though it works to check their signature... :/08:26
zorglu_wow 2500 seed on feisty gnome :)08:26
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qbertI want some to run a script every time a certian user logs on, how can i do that ?08:26
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Menazorglu_, never mind :)08:26
KubuntuBut I don't want wine, I want to remove it!08:26
Arwenqbert, ~/.bash_profile08:26
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qbertthx08:26
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sulanEncrypted message (decryption not possible)08:27
sulanReason: No secret key08:27
sulangaaaaaaah!08:27
KubuntuLjL you are mean!!08:27
blekoscould u tell me the utility for setting cpu to performance/ dynamic etc?08:27
zorglu_Kubuntu: relax08:27
acemoFATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy08:27
acemoin wich file can i manually install this module?08:27
Menaeric, if you didnt find your aim on that pages easy do that on terminal ( apt-cache cearch flash)08:27
KubuntuShe made me delet kde08:28
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zorglu_Kubuntu: relax08:28
KubuntuLjL made me delete KDE!08:28
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Menaeric, its on the pages but this is an easy way08:28
KubuntuIt takes months to reinstall!08:28
Doctor_Nickis there a guide for setting up beryl somewhere08:28
acemokubuntu: months? how slow is ur computer? :S08:28
KubuntuA long while08:28
zorglu_Kubuntu: ok get angry all the way and throw untrue accusations :)08:28
ericMena: I found it, thanks!08:29
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Kubuntua lot more than the five second LjL used on removing them!08:29
Menaeric, ok good08:29
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zorglu_ok08:29
Mena!beryl08:29
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:29
acemo!modules08:30
Kubuntu!voteban08:30
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 08:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voteban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:30
lwelynCan somebody have a look at my xorg.conf http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/9524/ and tell me where the problem is? ( it tells display not set )08:30
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zorglu_Kubuntu: you have to realize that those people try to help you and you insulting them is not nice08:30
ubuntu_hi08:30
ubuntu_need some help08:30
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KubuntuBut LjL deleted my KDE, I wanted to get rid of the wine respitorys!08:30
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mats752hi08:30
kbloghi08:30
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mats752need somehelp08:30
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: comment out the budget.dedicated line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file08:30
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zorglu_Kubuntu: be nice and notice that if you could have been removed from the channel :)08:31
zorglu_Kubuntu: but you are still here :)08:31
mats752so i want to instal kunbuntu on a /dev/sdb108:31
acemokubuntu: u are the one who didnt read what the command did, ur the one who gave ur computer the command to remove it all, not LjL.08:31
KubuntuHow do I get rid of my wine respitorys?08:31
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: then do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade08:31
aleksanteriKubuntu: vim /etc/apt/sources.list08:31
aleksanteriand delete all lines with "wine"08:31
Mena!ask |ubuntu_, mats752,08:31
ubotuubuntu_, mats752,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:31
KubuntuIt seamed ok sudo apt-get autoremove wine08:31
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acemokubuntu: always when the computer asks you a question read the question before answering it08:32
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KubuntuYeah, but I didn't think it would remove wine08:32
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Kubuntuvim /etc/apt/sources.list didn't work, no lines with wine in them!08:33
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zorglu_Kubuntu: hehe you are not being nice :)08:33
zorglu_be nice with other please08:33
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acemokubuntu: well.. LjL also is a human, humans make mistakes, dont get mad at LjL for being a human..08:33
KubuntuNo, for deleting KDE!08:33
zorglu_Kubunt08:34
zorglu_hehe08:34
zorglu_Kubuntu: please stop saying that as it is not true :)08:34
mats752ok i want to instal my kubuntu and i chose the /dev/sdb1 (externe USB hardisk 250gb) but there are files on and i don't want to lose them , so do i just have to press next and it instal automatocly an new map with his files or does he format ore delete files, ty for your help08:34
acemokubuntu: thats what im saying.. LjL is/was in here.. not to fuck someones computer up, but to help someone08:34
RaNDyMyZemats752: you can't just install to an external usb drive like you can an internal drive08:34
KubuntuBut how do I get rid of the wine problem?08:35
zorglu_Kubuntu: insulting people with untrue accusation wont help you fix your configuration08:35
acemokubuntu: LjL gave u a command of wich he thought it would do what it had to do, but aperently it did something else08:35
zorglu_acemo: with a big 'apparently' :)08:35
Kubuntusudo apt-get remove wine08:35
Kubuntuit removed a lot of packages, but not wine08:35
mats752RaNDyMyZe: you can shose it by handmatig (srr its in dutch:d)08:35
zorglu_it requires a patence to come here :)08:36
acemokubuntu: how did u install wine? with the command sudo apt-get install wine?08:36
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:36
RaNDyMyZemats752: yes, but it requires a special procedure to install to an external removable drive08:36
KubuntuI got absolutly no idea08:36
compengii'm trying to run k3b on ordinary ubuntu feisty but it gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16856/ when i try to start it08:36
zorglu_to have people insulting you because you spend your time trying to help them for free... and accept that :) a real ubuntu :)08:36
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compengidoes anyone have any idea about the problem and how to fix it?08:36
RaNDyMyZemats752:08:36
KubuntuI think I donloaded it from the wb08:37
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:37
zorglu_compengi: let me look08:37
KubuntuThat is the error code!08:37
ericHey, um, im trying to install GPLFlash, and it says error: need libjpeg, which according to adpet, i have...08:37
acemozorglu_: that and the fact that i dont know enough about linux besides answering some easy questions cause me to not be in this chat too much08:37
RaNDyMyZemats752: if you google installing Linux to the usb drive you will see some good tutorials08:37
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:37
compengizorglu_, okay08:37
KubuntuHow do I fix this?08:37
RaNDyMyZemats752: Wolvix Linux has an autoinstaller to usb.  Wolvix uses the fluxbox window manager08:38
zorglu_Kubuntu: first you relax08:38
Kubuntuok08:38
Kubunturelaxing08:38
KubuntuThen?08:38
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zorglu_compengi: which users are you when you type this 'k3b' command ?08:38
ericAnyone know a reason why libjpeg wouldnt be working?08:38
Kubuntuzorglu_ Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Then?08:39
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compengizorglu_, i'm the root08:39
KubuntuWHile I was installing feisty fawn08:39
zorglu_compengi: type "id ; ls -l /home/compengi/.kde" for me08:39
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: first comment out the wine.budgetdedicated lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:39
compengizorglu_, :~$ ls -l /home/compengi/.kde08:39
compengils: /home/compengi/.kde: Permission denied08:39
acemokubuntu: can u show ur sources.list file?08:40
zorglu_compengi: doesnt seems good :)08:40
mats752ty08:40
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: then do a sudo apt-get update08:40
zorglu_compengi: so come back as compengi, and from compengi, do "kdesu k3b"08:40
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Kubuntu!paste08:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:40
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: next sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop08:40
Kubuntuwhat is that paste thingi?08:40
Kubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/08:41
acemothats a website where u can easy post texts on, for example log files or sources.list08:41
Kubuntuthere is the file08:41
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eric*cries*08:41
erichehe08:41
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: it's just what the bot said. a place to post large text files.  like your sources list08:41
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compengizorglu_, it gave an DCOP communications error08:41
KubuntuYes, I saw that08:41
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KubuntuNow I have reinstalled kde08:41
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ericAnyone know anything about GPLFlash?08:41
compengizorglu_, cannot read network connection list08:41
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: did you reinstall kubuntu-desktop?08:41
Kubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/ here is the file you asked for08:41
Kubuntuno kde08:42
zorglu_compengi: ok lets retry. you delog, and you relog, then you open a terminal and type this command "kdesu k3b"08:42
Kubuntuapt-get install kde08:42
AloneaOk, the Wireless Assistant is no longer automatically connecting to the internet any more. It started after upgrade.08:42
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zorglu_compengi: and do "ls -l /home/compengi" for me08:42
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Kubuntuacemo here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/08:42
mats752hi i have encore a qwestion :  hhow cna you delte from usb when you are on kubund (from the cd so live fromthe ccd)08:42
zorglu_compengi: something is wrong with your directory08:42
prakdoes anyone know how to delete previous versions of ubuntu on a computer?08:43
Kubuntuformate08:43
compengizorglu_, you mean home?08:43
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: your sources.list looks fine now08:43
zorglu_compengi: seems like they are monted on nfs or you just did a tar/copy on your home dir08:43
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ericanyone got a minute?08:43
RaNDyMyZemats752: I'm not sure what you're asking?08:43
zorglu_compengi: type "ls -l /home/compengi" and gimme the result08:43
KubuntuRaNDyMeZe when I install feisty fawn i get this Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:44
tuei got a slight problem. I have installed beryl on my brothers computer, but when i change tabs in konquorer, there is a slight pause on approx 1 sec which is quite irritating. i has tried de-selecting all beryl features, but it didnt have an effect. Is this something anything can be done about?08:44
zorglu_compengi: type "ls -dl /home/compengi /home /"  even :)08:44
ericguess not :/08:44
compengizorglu_, ls -dl /home/compengi /home /08:44
compengidrwxr-xr-x 21 root     root     4096 2007-04-20 20:18 /08:44
compengidrwxr-xr-x  3 root     root     4096 2007-04-20 20:16 /home08:44
compengidrwxr-xr-x 48 compengi compengi 4096 2007-04-21 21:42 /home/compengi08:44
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: what happens when you try to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f08:44
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: don't worry about a gpg key error on update for apt-get08:45
zorglu_compengi: all fine here. lets go further "ls -dl /home/compengi/.kde"08:45
compengizorglu_, do you want ls -l /home/compengi too?08:45
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zorglu_compengi: not necessary08:45
compengizorglu_, ls -dl /home/compengi/.kde08:45
compengidrwx------ 3 root root 4096 2007-04-21 15:34 /home/compengi/.kde08:45
KubuntuW: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE26308:46
KubuntuW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:46
KubuntuE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.08:46
KubuntuW: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE26308:46
KubuntuW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems08:46
KubuntuE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.08:46
zorglu_compengi: THERE :)08:46
Kubuntuthat happens after downloading stuff08:46
compengi!past > Kubuntu08:46
coreymon77!pastebin || Kubuntu08:46
zorglu_compengi: those file should be in compengi, not root08:46
ubotu| Kubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:46
coreymon77!pastebin | Kubuntu08:46
Kubuntusry08:46
compengizorglu_, oh08:46
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zorglu_compengi: several 'fixes' are possible...08:46
Mena!ask |eric08:47
ubotueric: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:47
zorglu_compengi: do you care much about your kde config ?08:47
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zorglu_compengi: this .kde contains your current .kde config btw08:47
compengizorglu_, never played with it :)08:47
KubuntuWhat now?08:47
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lnxkde|workyay! Kubuntu is here08:48
KubuntuI am08:48
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: are you installing Feisty?08:48
Kubuntuyes08:48
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:48
zorglu_compengi: ok the easy fix then :) do a "rm -rf /home/compengi/.kde" but BE CAREFULL and type the proper path. this command erase all files for this path and below it. so be carefull08:48
Kubuntubut this comes up08:48
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: because your sources.list says edgy, that's not going to work at all08:48
Kubuntuthat*08:48
lnxkde|work:/08:48
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: how are you trying to upgrade?08:49
compengizorglu_, sudo rm -rf /home/compengi/.kde ?08:49
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KubuntuThrough adept, I've also tried the server update tool but neither worx!08:49
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: when you pasted your sources.list did you copy it directly from /etc/apt/sources.list?08:49
Kubuntuyes08:50
zorglu_compengi: i may have forgotten sudo yes. once again, be carefull with the path08:50
RaNDyMyZe!feisty08:50
ubotuFEISTY IS OUT! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - Torrent downloads at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ - Metalinks (use with Aria2 or, under Windows, GetRight) at http://download.packages.ro/metalink/ubuntu/08:50
compengizorglu_, done08:50
RaNDyMyZe!upgrade08:50
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)08:50
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: read that last page very carefully08:50
KubuntuAll of the methods gives the same thing Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:50
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zorglu_compengi: ok now, delog and relog under compengi, and a new .kde should be there, owned by compengi08:51
zorglu_compengi: with a working k3b, hopefully :)08:51
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: how did you install wine in the first place?08:51
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compengizorglu_, you mean log out and login right?08:51
zorglu_compengi: yep08:51
Lord_Maynoth_42:C can anyone help me im stumped08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42I was using ubuntu... (feisty) and it worked08:52
KubuntuI added some respitories, they didn't work so I downloade the file and installed it!08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42then I decided to try kubuntu08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42and it worked08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42then I formatted and went back with ubuntu08:52
KubuntuI have kubuntu not ubuntu!08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42but now my nic doesn't work08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42it still works in xp just fine08:52
Lord_Maynoth_42and was working in (k)ubuntu08:53
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: I understand you're using Kubuntu08:53
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KubuntuIt tells me to use programs I don't have!08:54
KubuntuUpdate tool08:54
compengizorglu_, it worked thanks alot, i appreciate your help08:54
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Arwenw00t, I'm on usenet!08:54
zorglu_compengi: my pleasure08:54
Kubuntuwitch can be found under system->admin->08:54
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Kubuntui dont have admin in my system08:54
KubuntuRaNDyMyZe how do I select what to update?08:55
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php#upgrade08:56
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu:08:56
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: those are kubuntu specific instructions08:56
Kubuntuyes08:57
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Kubuntuan error Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:57
KubuntuSame error!08:57
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KubuntuRaNDyMyZe i need to get rid of the wine thingi!08:58
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: back to your wine install.  did you download the .deb file and install it that way?08:58
AloneaOk, the Wireless Assistant is no longer automatically connecting to the internet any more. It started after upgrade.08:58
KubuntuAfter removing respitory do I have to restart computer for it to take effect?08:59
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: no08:59
KubuntuSure?08:59
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: did you install using a .deb file downloaded from wine, or did you compile08:59
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danny500Does anyone know if there is a cpu frequency control for a Intel Pentium 3 (Katmai)?08:59
KubuntuI installed from a deb file because the respos didn't work, but I added them09:00
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zorglu_danny500: unlikely09:00
danny500:(09:01
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zorglu_danny500: i think p3 appeared way before 'cpu freq control09:01
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: try adding this at the command line (it is the winehq key): wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -09:01
zorglu_danny500: note that im not sure :)09:01
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danny500darn cause I had a mishap where my cpu overclocked it self from 550MHz to 750MHz and I want to beable to do that willingly09:01
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: that shouldn't be necessary, but it won't hurt to add their key anyway09:02
danny500don't know why it overclocked itself but it was running really nicely :D09:02
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: what does this show? aptitude search wine09:02
KubuntuIt say OK09:02
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: good!09:03
danny500is there any cpu frequency control for Intel cpu's that I can use?09:03
Kubuntuubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ aptitude search wine09:03
Kubuntup   libwine                                  - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Packa09:03
Kubuntup   libwine-dev                              - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Packa09:03
Kubuntuc   wine                                     - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emul09:03
Kubuntup   wine-dev                                 - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Development09:03
Kubuntui   winefish                                 - LaTeX Editor based on Bluefish09:03
Kubuntuthat it says09:03
danny500Kubuntu> pastebin!09:03
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: use that pastebin if it's going to be long09:03
danny500pastebin!09:04
Ashex!pastebin > Kubuntu09:04
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g35is there anyway to make GRUB look nicer, i mean in terms of a GUI?  So like can you assign images for the different menu options or somethign of the like?09:04
KubuntuI didn't think it was that long!09:04
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Ashexg35, you can use a splashimage09:04
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KubuntuBy the way, I don't have wine now. It is deleted!09:04
danny500g35: beryl09:04
Ashexdanny500, he's talking about grub09:04
Ashexberyl is a window manager09:04
danny500oh ok lol09:04
LjLacemo: and humans go to have dinner, as well. anyway, i'd even feel (wrongly) guilty about that if he weren't so... arrogant to start with. you see, "sudo apt-get autoremove wine" should just remove wine and its dependencies. if one did something stupid such as removing kubuntu-desktop, then i suppose it might *propose* you to remove quite a few packages. hitting Yes (after reading the *very* plain english description of what is going to happen, and even09:05
LjLwithout asking and waiting for an answer) is your own decision not mine, for sure09:05
g35danny500, how can i use beryl to change grub's appearance?09:05
danny500pastebin! > LjL09:05
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Ashexg35, http://www.queervisions.com/arch/2007/04/9_grub_splash_i.html09:05
KubuntuDon't listen to LjL, LjL deletes your kde!!09:05
LjLdanny500: don't be ridiculous...09:05
danny500never mind g35, mistake09:05
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Ashexdanny500, it's !pastebin, not pastebin!09:05
RaNDyMyZeokay just stop that both!09:05
Ashex! is the trigger09:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is the trigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:05
danny500oops lol09:06
tkrapil?09:06
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: now try sudo apt-get update09:06
LjLKubuntu: and you don't be stupid, saying things like that isn't likely to help anybody, especially you.09:06
Kubuntusame error09:06
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: does it still give the same message09:06
coihey guys, i just did apt-get for vmware, how can i access my windows system from it?09:06
Kubuntuyes09:06
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RaNDyMyZeLjL: just stop or take it to pm/email09:07
danny500coi: do you just want access to your files on the windows drive?09:07
LjLRaNDyMyZe: i'm sorry.09:07
Ashexquick question for you guys09:07
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MenaThanks09:07
Ashexwhat's the command to use to backup data09:07
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LjL!backup09:07
MenaBye09:07
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning09:07
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AshexI can't remember which command it is :/09:08
coidanny500, no i want to use my windows apps09:08
coifrom linux09:08
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: does this give the same message?  apt-get install -f09:08
shawn34can i use the remote desktop feature regardless of ubuntu version?09:08
danny500oh ok, have you tried wine?09:08
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: make sure you put the -f after install09:08
danny500or cedega?09:08
coidanny500, yeah no doog :(09:08
coigood809:08
danny500oh I see, games?09:08
shawn34im running kubuntu with edgy, can i remote into ubuntu dapper?09:08
Kubuntu0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:08
danny500coi: hold on a second ok09:09
coidanny500, machine emulators for some classes that im taking09:09
coidanny500, thanks :D09:09
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coiok09:09
Kubuntucan we use remote desktop so you can help me?09:09
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makuserui had to get my sources from source-o-matic but it dosnt have the repos for universe and multiuniverse, how can i get thoes repos?09:09
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: nope, I have to leave in a very short bit09:09
Kubuntuplz09:09
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danny500coi09:10
danny500http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vmware.com%2Fsupport%2Fguestnotes%2Fdoc%2Fguestos_winxp.html&ei=emEqRrDHD5nqhwLTrvXQBQ&usg=AFrqEzfDfFwqWAicE1sjE5ub7jDv4V7cEQ&sig2=d-kfZzUuGUL0wyk4zEQgJA09:10
LjLmakuseru: yes it does, it's the second tickmark09:10
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RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: try apt-get remove --purge wine09:10
coithanks09:10
coii'll give it a read09:10
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: then also remove your ~/.wine directory09:10
KubuntuPackage wine is not installed, so not removed09:10
Kubuntu0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:10
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LjLis all this for the purpose of... upgrading to feisty? come on.09:11
danny500coi: your welcome :D09:11
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apokryphosubotu: upgrade09:11
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:11
danny500coi: I googled vmware Windows XP lol09:11
cyberiushi! i installed VisualBoyAdvance 1.7.2 from the sources, everything went fine. ( ./configure - make - sudo make install) but now i DON'T know how to start it..? anybody knows the emulator and can help me? the readme doesnt help me :(09:11
coiwell... it didnt really help09:11
Kubuntucan't delete it09:11
ubuntu__how can I use the live cd to add/remove programs from my main installation09:11
cyberiuscomand vba, visualboyadvance , nothing works.. O_o09:12
danny500you read it?09:12
LjLubuntu__: you can't09:12
coiyeah09:12
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LjLubuntu__: at least there's nothing specific to do that. it might be possible with some heavy hacking, but why?09:12
coithis is better : http://www.linuxforums.org/applications/using_vmware_player_to_test_linux_distributions.html09:12
ubuntu__I thought I could somehow chroot and do it?  am I wrong09:12
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KubuntuLjL any other good ideas?09:12
ubuntu__My feisty install broke, I cant boot09:12
LjLubuntu__: yes, maybe a chroot will work09:12
KubuntuTo my problem?09:12
RaNDyMyZeKubuntu: i have to go now.  sorry i couldn't help.09:13
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coreymon77wow09:13
danny500ubuntu_: reinstall09:13
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KubuntuOk, bye bye09:13
coreymon77i love fesity09:13
LjLKubuntu: i don't want the responsibility of you hitting "Yes" on things you should clearly leave alone, sorry09:13
ubuntu__ive never used chroot, I have no idea how09:13
Moniiiihi09:13
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Starfighter_Hey guys, you have a sec that you could help me out?09:13
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ubuntu__can I reinstall without reformatting?09:13
KubuntuLjL you told me to use that command09:13
Starfighter_I have a hardware problem09:13
coreymon77!ask09:13
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:13
Starfighter_Alrighty:)09:13
LjLKubuntu: yes i did, i also told you how to restore your package, did that work out?09:13
naliothcyberius: not any help with your starting, but you really should use !checkinstall when building from source on kubuntu09:13
Starfighter_I have a Synaptics Touchpad on my machine that won't recognize09:14
KubuntuNO09:14
LjLKubuntu: then describe how please. i wasn't looking.09:14
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KubuntuI had to use sudo apt-get install kde09:14
danny500nope, but you can make a partision at the back of you drive then put the data you need on a flash drine or something then format the drive09:14
Kubuntuhope it worx09:14
cyberius!checkinstall09:14
LjLubuntu__: yes and no... it's possible with the alternate cd, maybe it's even possible with the desktop cd, but in both cases it's nontrivial09:14
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!09:14
LjLubuntu__: what is your problem anyway? perhaps we can think of easier solutions09:14
danny500ubuntu_: nope, but you can make a partision at the back of you drive then put the data you need on a flash drine or something then format the drive09:14
Starfighter_It seems that in my xorg.config file there is a Macintosh Button Emulation thing in there which makes so sense, cuz I don't have a mac09:14
LjLKubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kde" is a subset of "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", which was the first thing i'd told you to do.09:15
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Kubuntubut sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop wont work09:15
Starfighter_Would is help it I gave you guys the output for my xorg.config file?09:15
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danny500ubuntu_: actually better solution, run live cd, put your data on the flash drive then reinstall09:15
LjLKubuntu: well, that means there is a problem -- whether or not apt-get install kde will work. pastebin the errors it gives.09:15
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Starfighter_Hello?09:16
shawn34How can i remote into a ubuntu laptop thats not local?09:16
KubuntuNo, I don't care about kde, I want feisty fawn!09:16
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wally_to install opera after downloading?09:16
ubuntu__i was asking on here earlier as twasbrillg:  anyway, the upgrade broke at the nvidia glx drivers, now when I try to boot, it hangs after fckd (or something)  I cant get to a command prompt with ctl alt f209:16
KubuntuI have gnome to if kde is broken!09:16
shawn34anyone?09:16
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LjLKubuntu: then why in the world are you trying sudo apt-get install kde?09:16
Starfighter_Hey guys, anyone got an idea what I should try?09:16
KubuntuLjL donno09:16
LjLKubuntu: anyway, if a package such as kubuntu-desktop doesn't install, *it means your APT system is broken*, whether or NOT you want any given thing09:17
ubuntu__danny500: im in the process of transfering my data, eta is about 26 hours!! Im trying to save time09:17
KubuntuLjL how do I get rid of that error09:17
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Doctor_Nickso09:17
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:17
sybuxcan someone help me with using my vga output on my laptop09:17
danny500oh ok lol, what do you need to back up that will take that long?09:17
ubuntu__.../home09:17
LjLKubuntu: pastebin your *current* sources.list file. and, of course, you already typed  sudo apt-get update ?09:17
Starfighter_Hey guys, I really need to get this fixed, otherwise I may have to revert back to windows09:18
Kubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/09:18
Doctor_Nickugh09:18
Kubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/09:18
KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16862/09:18
danny500oh ok well I need to fix my graphics card so I'll see ya later09:18
Starfighter_Anyone at all able to help me out??!?!?!09:18
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Doctor_Nicki followed the guide that beryl gave me for setting up the XGL server, but whenever I run it, it's EXTEREMELY SLOW09:18
Doctor_NickStarfighter_: your excessive use of punctuation has inspired me09:18
Starfighter_lol09:19
Starfighter_Doc, can you help me09:19
Starfighter_pwease!!!!!09:19
Doctor_Nickyou usually say what you need help with first09:19
KubuntuLjL see something wrong?09:19
Starfighter_I already did09:19
Starfighter_Everyone ignored me09:19
Starfighter_lol09:19
Doctor_Nickwith what09:19
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LjLKubuntu: pastebin the output of  ls /var/lib/apt/lists  and of  ls /var/cache/apt . no, the sources.list looks fine09:19
Starfighter_I have a Synaptics Touchpad that I can't get working09:19
Doctor_Nickdid you install synaptics09:19
Starfighter_I have the synclient installed09:20
Doctor_Nickwhat about the applet09:20
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Kubuntu!paste09:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:20
Starfighter_But everytime I try to do something with it, it says that Shared memory cannot be accessed GHMConfig disabled?09:20
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LjLKubuntu: actually no - the sources.list is not fine, but that shouldn't be related to the wine problems09:20
Starfighter_I don't know what package I need for the applet09:21
Doctor_NickStarfighter_: that's a problem i had09:21
Starfighter_What does it do exactly?09:21
Starfighter_Really09:21
KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16880/09:21
Doctor_Nicki just dont use the touchpad09:21
Starfighter_What did you do09:21
wally_How do i install opera after downloading it?09:21
Starfighter_Well, this is for my father and he needs the touchpad to work09:21
LjLKubuntu: change your sources.list like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16881/ anyway, otherwise you'll run into [other]  troubles (if you have universe enabled, you need to have it enabled also in -updates and -security)09:21
Kubuntusudo apt-get install opera09:21
Starfighter_Do you have a Toshiba A105 as well?09:21
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Doctor_Nickno09:22
wally_didn't work, had to download tar from opera site09:22
Starfighter_What model, if you don't mind09:22
Doctor_Nickthis is a common problem with synaptic touchpads09:22
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Starfighter_Is there a workaround that you know of?09:22
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Starfighter_I don't need all the fancy features, just to be able to use the mouse09:22
Doctor_NickStarfighter_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397327&highlight=synaptic+touchpad09:22
Doctor_Nicktry that09:22
Starfighter_alright, going now09:22
Starfighter_Thx for your help so far mate09:22
LjLKubuntu: try  mkdir ~/winebackup ; sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com* ~/winebackup/ , and then  sudo apt-get update , and then try upgrading to feisty09:23
LjLwally_: there is a .deb available for Opera, i think09:23
LjLno need to use the tar in that case09:23
Starfighter_Doctor_Nick09:23
wally_from synaptics or site?09:23
Starfighter_Does your comp actually recognize the mouse, just not let you use it though?09:24
Starfighter_Cuz mine doesn't even show up in any of the config files09:24
Doctor_Nickit works09:24
Doctor_Nickbut the config program doesnt09:24
Starfighter_oh, well, mine doesn't even work09:24
LjLwally_: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux09:24
wally_got it09:24
Starfighter_Here is my xorg.config output09:25
LjLwally_: it's also available in the dapper-commercial repository, but i don't think there is one for edgy or feisty. even that .deb is, at most, for edgy09:25
LjLwally_: doesn't seem like there's a feisty one yet09:25
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KubuntuLjL same error09:25
g35anyone here ever used gfxboot>09:25
LjLKubuntu: what's the output of  sudo apt-get update , though? does it also include that error?09:25
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Starfighter_Section "InputDevice"09:26
Starfighter_Identifier"Generic Keyboard"09:26
Starfighter_Driver"kbd"09:26
Starfighter_Option"CoreKeyboard"09:26
Starfighter_Option"XkbRules""xorg"09:26
Starfighter_Option"XkbModel""pc105"09:26
Starfighter_Option"XkbLayout""us"09:26
Starfighter_EndSection09:26
Starfighter_Section "InputDevice"09:26
Starfighter_Identifier"Configured Mouse"09:26
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Starfighter_Driver"mouse"09:26
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Kubuntuhere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16882/09:26
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Starfighter_EndSection09:27
Starfighter_Section "InputDevice"09:27
Starfighter_Driver"wacom"09:27
Starfighter_Identifier"stylus"09:27
Starfighter_Option"Device""/dev/input/wacom"09:27
Starfighter_Option"Type""stylus"09:27
Starfighter_Option"ForceDevice""ISDV4"# Tablet PC ONLY09:27
Starfighter_EndSection09:27
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LjLStarfighter_: what the heck... stop your client! >:09:27
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KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16882/09:27
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LjLStarfighter_: because you're flooding the channel like mad, didn't you notice?09:28
LjLStarfighter_, err, you were *still* pasting even the second time i kicked you09:28
malik__yeeeehaaaaaaaaa im back........but its weird....... sometime i get message that i am banned from channel and then few hours laters i get in.......can some one tell me whats goin on or if some one have the same problem09:28
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Starfighter_I just didn't know there was a paste bin09:29
tictactatichi there, i read an interview with mark shuttleworth the other day, and he said there would be some checkbox to turn on beryl in ubuntu feisty. is there such a thing for kubuntu?09:29
LjLmalik__: now you're from a sane IP address09:29
=== mode/#kubuntu [-o LjL] by LjL
KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16882/09:29
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wally_LjL - ok i'm stupid, how do i install the .deb once downloaded?09:29
Starfighter_Ok, sorry LjL, I'll use the pastebin from now on09:30
LjLKubuntu: i've seen it, but i'm kind of stuck. try "sudo apt-get clean"09:30
Kubuntuwally_ right klick09:30
LjLwally_: "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"09:30
Starfighter_I didn't know there was one09:30
Kubuntuthen kubuntu installer09:30
LjLor right click, yes09:30
LjLStarfighter_: ok, you know now09:30
Starfighter_:P09:30
wally_duh. thanks09:30
Starfighter_Well, now that I've got your attention, lol, YOu mind helping me out when you have a sec09:30
malik__whats better plugin to use in firefox.......mplayer or VLC?09:31
ubuntu__wow, i got chroot working, so im running dpkg --configure -a to clean things up....we'll see where this leads09:31
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S|h|A|h|R|u|ZGreEtings Everybody. [Nsu SrT] 09:31
Starfighter_Hello09:31
LjLKubuntu: your wine *is* removed, but for some reason APT is still trying to read the contents of that repository. your HD isn't full by any chance, by the way?09:31
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Starfighter_ShAhRuZ, are you here to ask questions or respond to them09:32
KubuntuLjL what is HD??09:32
S|h|A|h|R|u|Z both ways 09:32
LjLKubuntu: hard drive09:32
Starfighter_You mind helping me?09:32
LjLyour disk09:32
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LjLKubuntu: try also  sudo apt-get check 09:32
KubuntuBuilding dependency tree09:33
KubuntuReading state information... Done09:33
Starfighter_Would you mind ShAhRuZ09:33
LjLKubuntu: try apt-get update again, though it'll probably fail. do also a  grep -r budgetdedicated /var/*  and pastebin the output (might be quite long)09:33
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Last_Heroright, I have some java files in /home/lasthero/java and my IDE (jGrasp) is getting a Read-Only file system error when it tries to compile, shouldn't I have read/write privelages to my own directory? : /09:34
Starfighter_ShAhRuZ?09:34
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S|h|A|h|R|u|Z pm 09:34
Starfighter_huh?09:34
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LjLS|h|A|h|R|u|Z: what's that spammish stuff?09:34
Starfighter_I dunno09:35
Starfighter_ShAhRuZ are you able to help me, please?09:35
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KubuntuLjL09:35
KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16885/09:36
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Hasrat_USAanyone knows how to REALLY obliterate GNOME/Ubuntu from the system from KDE? I tried sudo apt-get auto-remove ubuntu-desktop and went to the extent of rebooting but still it has an option to log into GNOME in session list09:36
Kubuntusudo apt-get remove gnome09:36
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Starfighter_*sigh* Is there anyone there that can help?  I've been asking for forever, and I'd shut up if I could get just one person to help09:36
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edhoedthi all.... I'd like to know how to activate compiz on kubuntu feisty (I heard it's included in)... can anyone help me?09:36
Last_Herowhats up Starfighter?09:37
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Hasrat_USAedhoedt type compiz in terminal09:37
Starfighter_I need help with my Synaptics Touchpad09:37
czer323tictactatic: I've been looking for something similar.  I think I found it though.  KDE Menu> System Settings> Window Behavior> Transparency09:37
Starfighter_If you don't mine Last)Hero09:37
Starfighter_*mind09:37
KubuntuLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16885/09:38
edhoedtit says that compiz is not installed...09:38
edhoedtbut isn't it included with feisty?09:38
Last_Herowell, mine works without any configuration, so I can't really help you, sorry : /09:38
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Daisuke_Idoedhoedt: not kubuntu09:38
Starfighter_According to my synclient, it says that touchpad is recognized, but it doesn't work and it's not written in my xorg.config file09:38
Daisuke_Idoyou're going to have to install it09:38
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Hasrat_USAyes. what's your basic system configuration? i bet the upgrader/installer didn't willingly install compiz since it thought your hardware was too weak to run Compiz09:39
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edhoedtah right.... is it only with gnome??...09:39
ubuntu__so I chmod'd and cleaned up everything, dpkg still said i had some errors, so I sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'd im holding my breath09:39
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KubuntuLjL are you there?09:39
Tired_Hi.  Kinda stupid newbie question:  I'm about to give Feisty a try for the first time, and to do so, I'll need to use the monitor I am using now...will I be able to access IRC and all web pages from the basic just-installed environment, or will I be flipping monitor cables when I have trouble?09:39
Daisuke_IdoHasrat_USA: it's just not installed by default with kubuntu, only ubuntu09:39
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Daisuke_IdoTired_: as long as net access works, you're fine09:40
Last_HeroTired_, if your on the LiveCD just now then yeah09:40
edhoedtok thanks all!!!09:40
Tired_it should...onboard intel networking09:40
Tired_and no, I'm on my XP box now, but i only have the one monitor09:40
Hasrat_USAoh sorry yes daisuke that's what i observed so far. when i log into gnome i can find Compiz in the menu. but in kde i can't. well i got beryl up and running so what the heck!09:40
Starfighter_And everytime I try and use the synclient, it says cannot access shared memory, SHMConfig Diabled?09:40
ubuntu__tired, you can still use your system during the entire install, its not like windows09:40
Starfighter_Anyone got an idea?09:41
KubuntuI got one!09:41
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Tired_i was just concerned about Flash in the web broser, in case I need it for help ites...that kinda thing09:41
Starfighter_Please share09:41
tictactaticczer323: i found translucency09:41
tictactatici guess it'09:41
KubuntuHelp me install Feisty Fawn!09:41
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Starfighter_Kubuntu, what are you having problems with?09:41
Hasrat_USAstarfighter it's a laptop of course? which model?09:41
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michaelcan ubuntu mount bin/cue files?09:42
ubuntu__tired: irc programs, and www.ubunutforums.org do not use flash, you should be ok09:42
Starfighter_I have a Toshiba A10509:42
tictactatici guess it's the same thing, czer32309:42
michaelor do i need another program for that09:42
Hasrat_USAtoshiba a105 and...um hold on09:42
kblogwhich version of alsa is running under feisty per default?09:42
Starfighter_okies09:42
Hasrat_USAwhich processor?09:42
Starfighter_While I wait, Kubuntu, what where you having problems with?09:42
KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:42
ubuntu__tired: good question though, you will have to manually install flash though09:42
czer323tictactatic: The only thing I know about it is that it doesn't start until i restart kdm.09:42
KubuntuThat comes when I try to install feisty fawn!09:42
Starfighter_It has an Intel Centrino09:42
Tired_one last question...I'm installing now on a 120GB ide drive, but I plan to replace it with an 80GB SATA drive next week...will it be more difficult o clone the drive than it is with windows?09:43
tictactaticczer323: and it does fancy 3D stuff?09:43
Hasrat_USAstarfighter can you tell me some 5 letters/digits after toshiba a105?09:43
Starfighter_looking.....09:43
michaelhow do i check how much space i have left?09:43
Tired_typically, i use Ghost09:43
Hasrat_USAmichael disk space anaylzer09:43
czer323tictactatic: not fancy.  Just opacity changes and transparencies.  Nothing comapred to Beryl.09:43
Starfighter_A105-S403409:43
Starfighter_That's the complete model09:44
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Starfighter_According to the Windows Hardware manager, I have a synaptics touchpad with it, but it does not function09:44
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Starfighter_I'm running Ubuntu right now with a USB external mouse09:44
tictactaticczer323: ok, so shuttleworth was probably talking about gnome under ubuntu09:44
makiwich is the comand for adept in kmenu09:45
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Hasrat_USAstarfighter i don't mean to be rude but what are you doing in this channel then? seriously i'm just asking outta curiosity?09:45
makii deleted it09:45
KubuntuStrfighter any suggestion?09:45
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Hasrat_USAdid you loose your synaptic touchpad after installing KDE?09:45
Starfighter_What do you mean what am I doing in here?09:45
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KubuntuFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:45
czer323tictactatic: Yeah, Regular Ubuntu definitely has a package called Desktop-Effects.  I'm not sure about the extent of it's effects.  It's using Compiz.09:45
Starfighter_I installed Feisty fawn fresh on this machine09:46
Hasrat_USAstarfighter you said you were running ubuntu09:46
Starfighter_and it never functioned09:46
Starfighter_Yes, I am09:46
Starfighter_Is there  Ubuntu channel?09:46
Hasrat_USAand you're not running kubuntu while the name of this channel is kubuntu09:46
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Starfighter_different from this one09:46
Starfighter_alright09:46
Hasrat_USAyes #ubuntu and it has 1320 chatters so far09:46
Doctor_Nickwoop09:47
Starfighter_Kubuntu, have you tried a different mirror to fetch the update from09:47
Doctor_Nicki got beryl running09:47
Hasrat_USAbut anyways i was a bit puzzled. hold on09:47
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KubuntuNo, how09:47
Kubuntu?09:47
Starfighter_Alright, I'll switch channels09:47
Starfighter_Thx09:47
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Hasrat_USAnick congrats :)09:47
KubuntuHow?09:47
makican somebody see09:47
Starfighter_Are you trying to upgrade09:47
Hasrat_USAstar no don't. if i find a solution i will post here09:47
Starfighter_Kubuntu09:47
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KubuntuYes09:47
Tired_ooh..just hought of another gotcha...Gentoo picks up my DHCP automagically on install...I don't have to change anything to grab an IP from my router...should Kubuntu work the same way, likely?09:47
Starfighter_What are you using to update09:48
Starfighter_You're in Kubuntu, right?09:48
Kubuntuyes09:48
ubuntu__tired: kubuntu works fine with dhcp09:48
Starfighter_ok09:48
Kubuntuadept says this Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)09:48
Starfighter_So, what are you using to update Kubuntu to the newest version09:48
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Tired_sweet.  ok, enough hand-holding for me...here goes.  next time you see me I should be either really frustrated, or running feisty  :)09:49
KubuntuAdept09:49
Starfighter_At the top09:49
Starfighter_Under the Adept menu09:49
KubuntuKubuntu 6.10!09:49
Starfighter_There is a section that says manage repositories09:49
KubuntuI have done that!09:49
Starfighter_You can add mirrors in there09:49
Kubuntudo you have a mirror?09:50
ubuntu__alright, im gonna try this, ill be back in 10 minutes if it didnt work09:50
Hasrat_USAstarfighter the mouse (touchpad) doesn't work at all, right? like when you touch it with your fingers, you see no movements of any kinds at all. and as a matter of fact touchpad device/driver was never detected by ubuntu i believe?09:50
Starfighter_If it says failed to fetch, it means that the server you are trying to get it from is down, or your connection is not accessing the server properly09:50
Starfighter_YEs09:50
Starfighter_USA, that is correct09:50
Kubuntugive it to!09:50
Kubuntuto me!09:50
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Starfighter_Go to the Ubuntu site and look up the mirrors09:51
Starfighter_then add one of them09:51
Hasrat_USAStarfighter can you remember exacty when you purchased this laptop and after the purchase did you ever perform any bios update?09:51
Starfighter_There is a freaking list on the site09:51
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Kubuntubut I need to get rid of the wine thing09:51
Starfighter_Yes, I performed a BIOS update for Vista09:51
LjLStarfighter_: well, it would usually mean that, but he's *removed* that repository from the list, but somehow it's still being tried to be accessed09:51
Starfighter_So that it would function properly09:51
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LjLKubuntu: had a phonecall. last i asked you was to pastebin   grep -r budgetdedicated /var/* 09:52
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Starfighter_Does that help Hasrat_USA?09:52
Starfighter_If you need me too, I can pastebin the xorg.config file for you09:53
Starfighter_and the output of my cat /proc/bus/input/devices09:53
KubuntuLjL here is the out put!09:53
Kubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16887/09:53
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Hasrat_USApastebin xorg.config09:54
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LjLKubuntu: oh, *slaps head*, i know what it is. the sources.list.d, you had installed wine using that09:54
Kubuntuso what do I do?09:54
Starfighter_Alright, I'll pastebin my xorg.config09:55
Starfighter_give me a sec09:55
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LjLKubuntu: what does  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  give?09:55
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Hasrat_USAi'm cooking eggs :) hey LjL nice to see you back in here again09:55
Kubuntuwinehq.list09:55
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LjLKubuntu: remove it.  sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list 09:55
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LjLKubuntu: then  sudo apt-get update , the error should be gone09:55
chemicalvampwhats the best Ipod sync program?09:56
Hasrat_USAamarok09:56
Starfighter_Alright09:56
Kubuntuit worked thanx09:56
Starfighter_Hasrat_USA, here is the link09:56
Starfighter_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16888/09:56
chemicalvampwill that sync ipod to comp? like get the songs off of it?09:56
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KubuntuLjL do I have to restart after installing 7.04??09:58
LjLKubuntu: to use it - yes09:58
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Kubuntuok09:58
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LjLKubuntu: otherwise you'll still be using Edgy, mostly09:58
Starfighter_As you can see, it, my mouse doesn't show up09:58
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Starfighter_in the xorg.config09:58
KubuntuIs it any programs like vlc for linux?09:58
cinexhi09:58
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chemicalvampKubuntu what is vlc, what does it do09:59
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Starfighter_It's a media player09:59
KubuntuIt streams video09:59
Kubuntuand copyes it09:59
Starfighter_VLC is a universal media player09:59
LjLKubuntu: there is, uh, for examples, vlc09:59
LjL!info vlc09:59
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB09:59
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KubuntuIs vlc for linux?09:59
chemicalvampyes it is10:00
Hasrat_USAstarfighter i'm gonna give you some code using pastebin. copy and paste them in terminal and see if it returns true10:00
LjLwhat do you think?10:00
Starfighter_ok10:00
Starfighter_What's the link10:00
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chemicalvampStarfighter_ enable your universe repository10:00
Starfighter_I'm root now, so I'm ready for it10:00
Kubuntucool10:00
Hasrat_USAhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16889/10:00
Kubuntuwhere can I see th simpsons online?10:00
chemicalvampwait, who wanted vlc?10:01
Hasrat_USAKubuntu: www.torrentz.com10:01
Pollywogwhy does kubuntu (I have it installed on two machines) tell me that a list of packages is not required and can be removed when most of the packages are not metapackages10:01
Pollywog?10:01
Starfighter_It's returns back as true10:01
KubuntuDon't remove them!!10:01
Hasrat_USAawesome10:01
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PollywogKubuntu: yeah I did once and it left my system unusable10:02
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Hasrat_USAstarfighter what do you mean by 'i'm root now' that's dangerus10:02
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Kubuntutorrentz is too busy!10:02
Starfighter_I know, but I needed to make root able to log in so I could configure things in Adept10:02
Kubuntuwhere else can I see The simpson on kubuntu?10:02
Starfighter_I could have run it from console, but I don't like that10:02
Hasrat_USAanyways if you're root and you don't have to type sudo, then type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:02
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Starfighter_I like GUI's10:02
Starfighter_ok10:03
Starfighter_I'm into the Package configuration dialog10:03
KubuntuWhat do I do with a torrent file?10:03
chemicalvampopen it with ktorrent10:03
the_hammeropen with ktorrent10:03
the_hammerand save where ever ya wnt it to goto10:04
Starfighter_What do I do with the configuration dialog?10:04
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Hasrat_USAyou're reconfiguring it now10:04
Hasrat_USAhold on10:04
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Starfighter_ok10:05
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Starfighter_It says it need me to select a video driver10:05
Starfighter_Should I just use the vga10:05
Starfighter_one10:05
Hasrat_USAchoose i81010:05
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Hasrat_USAhell no10:05
Starfighter_alright10:05
KubuntuWhile I'm upgrading my internett speed is sooo slow how do I speed it up?10:05
Starfighter_lol10:05
Hasrat_USAselect 1810 lol10:05
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Starfighter_Alright10:06
Starfighter_Done10:06
Starfighter_Just name it generic video card?10:06
Hasrat_USAyou're kinda performing a surgery and anytime things can go wrong even if you don't do anything wrong10:06
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PollywogI am using kubuntu but my session manager is gdm because it lets me do secure remote access.  Is there a way to choose the type of session (I want KDE) on the remote side?10:06
Hasrat_USAnope10:06
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Starfighter_What should I name it?10:06
Search4Lanceroh boy, just got a swell popup telling me a new version is available10:06
aftermathwhat's the ntfs-3g package name for kubuntu?10:06
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czer323!ntfs-3g10:07
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:07
Starfighter_Hasrat_USA?10:07
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Pollywogwhen I do a secure remote session(xdmcp), I always get Gnome on the remote and I don't see a way to change that other than perhaps removing Gnome10:07
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[Relic] getting ready to install 7.04, need to make a list of installed packages so I can simply reload all once I get it installed is the a dpkg command that will list ONLY the package names w/o anything else?10:08
Starfighter_What should I put for the video card identifier10:08
Hasrat_USAyeah i'm here. hold on a second i'm going through the dialog screens to get to the point where you will find or you're supposed to find the section for your touchpad10:08
PollywogStarfighter I think you can put anything there that is meaningful to you10:09
Starfighter_ok10:09
Hasrat_USAdon't do anything as of yet. remember so far all you have typed is 181010:09
Doctor_Nickugh10:09
Starfighter_alright10:09
Starfighter_I just says Generic Video Card, so I'm just waiting on whatever you tell me10:09
KubuntuHow long time would it take to download 41 gb with an average of 5kb/s?10:09
Doctor_Nicki wish when you installed kdevelop, it also installed everything you needed to compile and debug your programs -_-;;10:10
Starfighter_Thanks again for your help10:10
Starfighter_I hope we can figure this out10:10
Starfighter_It's for my dad10:10
voidmageKubuntu: 41*1024*1024/5/60/60/24 = 99.5210:10
voidmageKubuntu: almost 4 months10:10
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voidmageKubuntu: and that's if you are downloading every minute of every day for the 4 months10:10
czer323looooool voidmage, I was JUST wondering about it.  *puts away calculator*10:10
voidmagea more reasonable estimate right be somewhere closer to 610:11
MinceRafter upgrading to feisty, some of my bindings in beryl don't work -- neither <alt>mouse3 nor <alt>space bring up the window menu and none of the Put plugin shortcuts work10:11
Hasrat_USAthere is a solution and it has been solved before starfighter. but i'm taking a little bit of time cause 1) i don't have a touchpad since i'm using a desktop 2) i have to kinda simulate your problem in here 3) i'm trying to go to the section where you're automatically supposed to be given a choice to enable synaptics touchpad10:11
Kubuntucrap10:12
Starfighter_NP man.  I'm appreciate your help10:12
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KubuntuHow do I check how muck harddrive space I have?10:12
czer323Starfighter_: Just for teh record, I'm using a synaptics touchpad as well.  I've had a couple different laptops with them and they've always *just worked* with no config.10:12
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tdnHow do I get a second monitor to work on my IBM Thinkpad? It is a projector. How do I enable it? Please help!10:13
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czer323No config for either ubuntu/kubuntu/knoppix/dsl/puppy or anythign i've used linux wise.10:13
IkaweKubuntu: in a terminal you can 'df -h'10:13
Starfighter_I know, but mine doesn't work without configuration10:13
Starfighter_czer32310:13
DaSkreechStarfighter_: How far have you reached?10:13
Starfighter_?10:13
Starfighter_I'm in the PAckage configuration right now10:13
Starfighter_Hasrat_USA is looking something up for me10:14
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IkaweKubuntu: otherwise check out the "disk and filesystems" in the advanced tabs of your system settings10:14
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KubuntuHow does this torrent thing work?10:15
Kubuntudoes I share what I have dowloaded?10:15
Starfighter_torrents let you share large files with people by allowing you to download off of people that are also downloading the file10:15
Starfighter_So it forms a web10:15
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Starfighter_So, I have this file, you have that file, we both give each other one of them and then we both have them10:16
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Starfighter_That's how it works10:16
KubuntuSo I'm downloading it from otther people, not a website?10:16
Starfighter_yup10:16
Starfighter_Several dozen people probably10:16
Starfighter_who are also trying to get it10:16
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IkaweKubuntu: right10:16
KubuntuWhat if the 41gb of the sipmpsons isn't the simpsons?10:16
Starfighter_People who have the whole file are called seeders, and people who have part of it are called peers10:17
Search4Lancerawesome: 7 packages to be removed, 90 to install, 1093 to upgrade, 899MB download10:17
Starfighter_peers and seeders share files with you, and you share files with peers10:17
czer323Kubuntu: then you have 41Gb of porn!10:17
Starfighter_to cut back on bandwidth10:17
Kubuntuwhat is Leechers?10:17
Starfighter_People not charing10:17
Starfighter_*sharing10:17
Kubuntuczer323 oh10:17
Kubuntuwhat is seeders?10:17
Starfighter_They have a program that is downloading and not uploading to others10:17
Starfighter_seeders are people who have the wholething10:17
Starfighter_and are acting as servers10:18
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czer323Starfighter_: Leecher is usually synonomous with Peers.10:18
Starfighter_As soon as the download finishes for you, you will become a seeder10:18
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Starfighter_?10:18
Kubuntuif i'm downloading several files, in one torrent, can I then watch the begining?10:18
Starfighter_I thought leecher was a person who wasn't sharing the files10:18
michaelwhat do i name a script to make it executable?10:19
Starfighter_If that part of the download is done, you can watch or view the file10:19
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czer323Starfighter_: It really depends on the context.  For most sites about torrents, it's teh same as peer.10:19
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Starfighter_Hasrat)USA10:19
Hasrat_USAoops sorry10:19
so_sauveEvening all, i got a bit stuck updating to FF and I'm looking for some help10:19
Starfighter_That alright10:19
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Starfighter_You got an idea where I should go from here10:19
Starfighter_I have to go soon to work10:19
Starfighter_I have like ten minutes left10:19
Search4Lancerright, I use ISOhunt to search for torrents, and on there, there are only seeders and leechers, no middle ground10:20
tictactatichey, i just noticed middleclick on my mouse no longer works10:20
tictactaticin feisty10:20
Hasrat_USAseems like this reconfiguring xserver is seriously risky, starfighter and it can screw up ur xserver pretty much if you don't know what you're doing10:20
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Hasrat_USAalthough reconfiguring xserver would certainly fix your problem10:20
Kubuntustrange thing, it tells me a file is 149 mb, bur ktorrent tells me I only have downloaded 6.8. How is that possibole?10:20
Starfighter_What do I need to reconfigure10:20
Starfighter_and can I just name the identifier Intel 950?10:21
Starfighter_Or does it really matter10:21
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so_sauveI have apache installed, but it wasnt running and i tried to upgrade using apt.10:21
plhardymichael: what kind of script it is ? usualy it is a comment in first line that tell what kind of interpretor to use. to make it executable you have to chmod it with x rights10:21
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Starfighter_If I don't get it working, I'm just going to have to wipe it out anyway10:21
Starfighter_So, I have nothing to lose10:21
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Starfighter_USA, man, you still there?10:22
Hasrat_USAyou don't have to necessarily wipe it out10:22
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so_sauveIt got part way through then tried to stop apache to update it, as it wasn't running, apt bombed out 'unable to stop Apache'10:22
Hasrat_USAit's gonna get fixed but i bet you just have to give it a little bit more time :P10:22
sc0tchIs there a Howto/faw on compiling a custom kernel for Fiesty? (did not see it on common questions page).10:22
Hasrat_USAfor now, you can close the session by going to file >> close session10:22
Starfighter_Oh, you mean with an update?10:22
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Hasrat_USAstarfighter nope. by reconfiguring the xserver10:23
Daskreech2Starfighter_: Sorry thought you were advertising the game starfighter10:23
Daskreech2I've only reached the second solar system10:23
Starfighter_Yeah, but I don't know how to reconfigure Xserver10:23
chemicalvamphow can i change my VGA aperature? (its not in bios)10:23
Hasrat_USAyou should make a back-up of this file right now /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:23
Starfighter_Already done10:23
so_sauveNow apache wont start and i can't complete the update because it keeps attempting to stop apache and failing10:24
os2maccan someone gimme some edumacation on WINE?10:24
Hasrat_USAtoo bad envy doesn't have a version for feisty yet10:24
Starfighter_I did that when I started screwing around with it10:24
Hasrat_USAthat's awesome. i should have told you before10:24
plhardytwo hours to upgrade my edgy in feisty... still not ended and i am starting to be low in dsik space...10:24
Starfighter_lol10:24
Starfighter_I already tried adding the touchpad into the xorg.config file10:24
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Starfighter_Then when I restarted it said the device failed to initialize and XServer shut down10:25
Hasrat_USAstarfighter do you know how to load a previously backed-up xorg.config file if your current file goes screwed?10:25
plhardymichael: still here ?10:25
Starfighter_So I was left with command line10:25
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Starfighter_I just figured I would use the live boot and copy it back into it10:25
Starfighter_It worked before10:25
Starfighter_I just saved a copy of the file to the desktop10:25
Hasrat_USAso i take it you know how to do it10:26
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Starfighter_erhm........10:26
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Starfighter_depends10:26
Starfighter_on what you mean10:26
Hasrat_USAgreat. in that case i bet you can go ahead with reconfiguring it10:26
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Starfighter_If you mean copying and pasting it somewhere else10:26
Starfighter_And then using the live boot to replace the screwed up one, then yes10:26
Starfighter_I know how10:26
michaelplhardy: the comment is #! /bin/bash10:26
Hasrat_USAlol using the live boot cd to replace the screwed one would do10:27
Starfighter_lol10:27
Starfighter_alright10:27
Starfighter_So, what's the next step10:27
Hasrat_USAanyways so have you closed terminal already?10:27
Starfighter_I mean, the Mac button emulation in my xorg.config it weird10:27
plhardythen it is a bash script what can be exdecuted in any console by just doing ./myscript if your file is named myscript10:27
Starfighter_Yes10:27
Starfighter_Konsole is closede10:27
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Starfighter_*closed10:27
melkorIs feisty the official version of ubuntu right now?10:27
Daskreech2yup10:27
c1|freakyyea10:27
Sannemelkor: yes, the latest10:28
plhardyusualy bash script are named with .sh extension10:28
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Hasrat_USAokay let's reopen that and then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:28
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Last_Herodoes anyone have any idea why my java compiler would get a "Permission Denied" error when trying to compile a file located in /home/lasthero/java ??10:28
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Starfighter_done10:28
Hasrat_USAlast hero simple. permission is denied. the folder is read only10:28
Starfighter_Select the i81010:28
plhardymichael: you have to do a:  chmod a+x yourscript10:28
Hasrat_USAyeah select that10:28
Starfighter_Done10:28
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Hasrat_USAwhat's next?10:29
Starfighter_Now it wants a video card identifier10:29
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Starfighter_just generic video card fine10:29
Hasrat_USAyou see intel?10:29
Starfighter_?10:29
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Starfighter_It has examples that say Intel ixxx10:29
plhardyisn't a name you just put here ?10:29
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tomdhow to bood from usb10:29
Starfighter_Use the example?10:29
MinceRsynaptic keeps freezing10:29
Starfighter_with the name as Intel i950?10:29
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Starfighter_USa?10:30
dekI wanted to upgrade to Feisty, but my internet is going painfully slow (few kb/s), any ideas?10:30
Hasrat_USAIntel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller10:30
plhardyStarfighter: i think this name is just a display name, it is not used to determine what card type it is autodetction is done in driver selection10:30
chemicalvampos2mac it tastes good, it stains, and it emulates windows so windws aps can be used on *ux10:30
tomdHi; can someone help me how i boot kubuntu from usb pls10:30
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Last_HeroHasrat_USA, thanks, dunno why they were Read only though :S10:31
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DaSkreech!info madam10:31
ubotuPackage madam does not exist in feisty10:31
ShaddoxMornin' everyone. :D10:31
Starfighter_alright10:31
DaSkreechHi Shaddox10:31
Starfighter_I put that in USA10:31
ShaddoxHi DaSkreech :D10:31
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ShaddoxStill no wireless10:31
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DaSkreechShaddox: how's X?10:31
chemicalvampShaddox what manufacturer?10:31
ShaddoxDecent, but still no wireless. ^^10:31
Search4Lancerdek: go wardriving?10:31
Starfighter_Ok, now it says Video card's bus identifier10:31
ShaddoxMy router is a Belkin wireless10:32
ShaddoxI'm having a problem with it10:32
Starfighter_PCI:0:2:010:32
malik__how safe it is to use ntfs3g driver for ntfs rw?10:32
kaizokuI am running the kubuntu live CD, and I changed the driver and resolutions in xorg.conf, but the resolution won't change.10:32
Hasrat_USAyeah you can also go with generic if  you want10:32
Hasrat_USAyeah pci:0:2:010:32
Starfighter_ok10:32
ShaddoxWhere when i type in www.archonhosting.com [my own domain, DNS is configured on my server's BIND] 10:32
plhardyStarfighter: let tool select this for you...10:32
kaizokuThe driver changed just fine, but the resolution is still just as lot.10:32
Hasrat_USAnext generic monitor10:32
kaizoku*low10:32
ShaddoxInstead of going to my server's Apache10:32
Shaddoxit goes to my router's web interface10:32
Shaddoxso now im getting them to help fix that10:32
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tomdHi; can someone help me how i boot kubuntu from usb pls10:32
Starfighter_It's asing ammount of memory (kb) to be used by the video card10:32
Starfighter_*asking10:32
dekSearch4Lancer: what do you mean?10:33
michaelhow do I cd to a directory that has a space in the nme?10:33
michaelname*10:33
Starfighter_USa10:33
DaSkreech!tab | michael10:33
ubotumichael: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.10:33
Hasrat_USAhit escape10:33
Search4Lancerif you don't know what wardriving is, then nevermind...10:33
Hasrat_USAonly once10:33
michaelah, thanks daskreehc10:33
Starfighter_use kernel framebuufer device interface?10:33
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Hasrat_USAyes10:34
Starfighter_autodetect keyboard layout?10:34
Hasrat_USAyeah10:34
plhardymichael: cd word\ secondword10:34
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Starfighter_XKB rule set to use: xorg?10:34
Hasrat_USAyeah10:34
plhardymichael: or just start to type the directory name then use TAB completion10:35
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Starfighter_Keyboard model pc105?10:35
Hasrat_USAyes10:35
Starfighter_Keyboard options?10:35
malik__what is a good option for editing photos in kubuntu fiesty?10:35
dekSearch4Lancer: I dont have wi-fi internet, and my internet works very fast in Windows. So it's a Kubuntu problem.10:35
Starfighter_Out any in there?:10:35
Starfighter_*put any in there?10:35
Hasrat_USAUS10:35
Starfighter_For Keyboard Options?10:36
Starfighter_Put in US?10:36
DaSkreechmalik__: Krita10:36
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Hasrat_USAis it giving you any choice?10:36
DaSkreechmalik__: If You want to stay K10:36
Starfighter_No, it has a field for input10:36
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chemicalvampis there any specific windows version drivers ndiswrapper recomends?10:36
Starfighter_Configuring xserver-xorg Keyboard Options10:36
Hasrat_USAokay hit esc10:36
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chemicalvampor should i just go with xp drivers10:36
Starfighter_ok10:36
malik__DaSkreech: but some one also suggested Gimp....i dont know which one will be better n have more options for kde10:37
Starfighter_Mouse port:10:37
Starfighter_dev/input/mice10:37
Starfighter_or dev/psaux10:37
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DaSkreechmalik__: Krita is more KDE Gimp is more Gnome10:37
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MinceRdid i mention opera refuses to run since this morning and upgrading to feisty didn't change that?10:37
Starfighter_or dev/ttyS010:37
DaSkreech Krita has more colour options since it's newer10:37
Starfighter_or dev/tts010:37
Hasrat_USAdev/input/mice10:37
Starfighter_alright10:37
czer323!krita10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krita - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
DaSkreechGimp has more manipulation options since it's mature10:37
Starfighter_Mouse protocol?10:37
plhardyMinceR: start it in a console and look at traces ...10:37
Starfighter_ImPS/2 or Explorer PS/2?10:38
MinceRmaybe i should reboot since update-manager crashed x before it could reboot10:38
malik__DaSkreech: so both are same when it comes to versatility?10:38
Hasrat_USAImPS/210:38
MinceRplhardy: i'll try that, though i doubt i'll glean anything from the results10:38
Starfighter_Emulate three button mouse?10:38
Hasrat_USAyes10:38
DaSkreechmalik__: Hmm nearly. I'd put Gimp out ahead and I don't think that anyone would argue with me10:38
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DaSkreechBut So far I like Krita10:38
Starfighter_hit escape at the X.org server modules that should be loaded section?10:38
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DaSkreechCOurse I have very low image manipulation needs. I'm not running a business or anythign10:39
Starfighter_USa?10:39
MinceRstrace throws it into an endless loop of error messages10:39
Hasrat_USAit aint giving you any option?10:39
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Starfighter_Yeah10:39
Hasrat_USAwhich option?10:39
Starfighter_bitmap, dbe, ddc, dri, extmod, freetype10:39
DaSkreech!info mettise10:39
ubotuPackage mettise does not exist in feisty10:39
Starfighter_blah blah blah10:39
chemicalvampdoes using kdesu konqueror to set permissions mess anything up?10:39
malik__DaSkreech: can we shrink the size of a photo with Krita or Gimp .....as in its dimensions as well as  in size?10:39
MinceRa poll() syscall results in EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)10:40
Starfighter_leave it the way it is and say ok?10:40
DaSkreechmalik__: Oh Yeah10:40
Starfighter_It have selected and some not10:40
DaSkreechYou can do that with Gwenview I think10:40
Starfighter_*hyas10:40
Starfighter_*has10:40
Starfighter_Just hit ok?10:40
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Hasrat_USAgo with whatever it has selected10:40
tomdHi; can someone help me how i boot kubuntu from usb pls10:40
plhardyMinceR: what kind of starce errors ?10:40
dekI wanted to upgrade to Feisty, but my internet is going painfully slow (few kb/s). In Windows it works just fine, any ideas?10:40
Hasrat_USAyeah go with whatever it has selected10:40
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Starfighter_write default files section to configuration file?10:40
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Hasrat_USAyes10:40
Shaddoxugh these people at belkin are complete idiots10:40
Hasrat_USAlol what happened?10:41
Starfighter_attempt monitor auto-detect?10:41
Hasrat_USAyes10:41
MinceRplhardy: first a couple of No such file or directory errors, then the one i mentioned above10:41
plhardydek: you mean in windows you have a better throughput ?10:41
Shaddoxi got a call from a tech about something i called about yesterday10:41
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Starfighter_Generic monitor fine?10:41
Hasrat_USAsure10:41
Shaddoxand they are so stupid they don't even know who the tech is that called or anything10:41
malik__DaSkreech: sorry to be a ng........but can we lets say shrink the size of a photo from 1024x748 to say 800x600 ?10:41
DaSkreechmalik__: Very easily10:41
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DaSkreechmalik__: install Krita and play with it10:41
Starfighter_Hey nan10:41
Starfighter_I gotta go10:41
Starfighter_Work in five minutes10:42
MinceRi'll reinstall and see if that helps (though i think a minor upgrade has been done already)10:42
malik__DaSkreech: oki thanx for the tips mate10:42
Hasrat_USAokay no problem you can continue when you get back10:42
Starfighter_I'll look into further configuring it so that it works10:42
Starfighter_Alright10:42
Hasrat_USAokay and what kinda work in sat anyways?10:42
Starfighter_Thanks a bunch man10:42
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Hasrat_USAalright no problem take care10:42
Starfighter_Server10:42
Starfighter_I wait tables10:42
Starfighter_lol10:42
Hasrat_USAuh okay take care lolz cool10:42
Starfighter_At a bar and grille10:42
Starfighter_lol10:42
Starfighter_Take care mate10:42
Hasrat_USAbar owns10:42
DaSkreechmalik__: If i'm not mistaken you can do that to a whole folder of images with gwenview10:42
plhardyMinceR: i you reinstall opera, purge it, then you will be sure nothing from old install remains.10:42
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[1] ircusrhi10:43
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plhardymichael: is your script starting ?10:43
chemicalvampplease somebody tell me how linux deals with self extracting exe's made for windows10:43
[1] ircusrwith unzip10:43
[1] ircusrand gunzip10:43
Doctor_Nicklord what fools these mortals be10:43
dekplhardy: in Windows I download at 110 kb/s and in Kubuntu Edgy I download at 3~4 kb/s10:43
plhardydek: for same source ?10:44
chemicalvampso like gunzip (file/directory) (unzip/directory)?10:44
[1] ircusrwhy does konqueror drop internet connection?10:44
michaelno plhardy10:44
dekplhardy: yes10:44
plhardydek: what ifconfig tells ?10:45
cinexim extracting a file, at 4gb's I get "File size limit exceeded10:45
cinex"10:45
aroAnyone know how to make text bold in Konversation?10:45
cinexand it stops10:45
aroCtrl+B just brings up bookmarks10:45
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cinexI have nothing in the limits.conf10:45
cinexany suggestions?10:45
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MinceRplhardy: first i'll try without purge, then with it.10:46
dekplhardy: nothing strange that i can notice :P10:46
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plhardydek: what can of device do you use to access interent ?10:46
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plhardyyes ! upgrade to feisty done !10:47
dekplhardy: i have a switch (not router) and a DSL modem, its not hardware problem because it works fine in Windows10:47
DezineHi, I was wondering how I could set my resolution higher than 1024x768? It won't let me go any higher.10:47
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gceehello10:47
dec_anyone know how to install opengl on kubuntu, i am trying to get beryl to work and i am having problems10:47
cinexwhat problems?10:48
gceeanybody know how to back out of the feisty upgrade?10:48
DaSkreechcinex: What filesystem?10:48
dec_when i run beryl i get a white screen and i have to shut the machine down10:48
cinexDaSkreech: ext310:48
DaSkreech!resolution10:48
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:48
chemicalvampArchive:  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/Desktop/drivers/wirelessdriver.exe10:48
chemicalvampcaution: filename not matched:  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/Desktop/drivers/wirelessdriver10:48
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Dezinety10:48
plhardydek: it is a DSL modem, then you have to set up pppOe/oa within your install ?10:48
DaSkreechdec_: What video card do you have/10:48
dec_ati radeon10:49
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chemicalvampanybody see a problem with that?10:49
DaSkreech!ati | dec_10:49
ubotudec_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:49
cathyhey ppl...got a major bootup problem with edgy i've never seen before10:49
plhardydek: might be ethernet card pb too10:49
dekplhardy: yes. I will try disabling ipv6 , reboot10:49
cinexwirelessdriver and wirelessdriver.exe10:49
cinexthe .exe10:50
chemicalvampdec_ your not using feisty are you?10:50
dec_yes i am using feisty10:50
chemicalvampthen dont follow !ati.. trust me10:50
cathyeven recovery mode hangs close to the end of the bootup process10:50
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chemicalvampits made for edgy10:50
dec_what should i do10:50
chemicalvampunless you know how to edit you xorg.conf from a cli10:50
dettoaltrimenti_does anyone here use dcgui?10:50
riadwhy kubuntu hadn't all the features of ubuntu it's so sad10:50
dec_not a chance10:51
chemicalvampto undo what you did, cuz xserver dont wanna start10:51
cathyanybody got any ideas how to check all the file systems from a livecd?10:51
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theoryhi10:51
chemicalvampcathy fdisk -l (L)10:51
theorycan anyone help me with Java instalation on 7.04?10:51
dec_any ideas10:51
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chemicalvamp!ndiswrapper10:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:52
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cathyok...will try10:52
chemicalvamperr uhh it works for other suff too10:52
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dec_chemicalvamp any other ideas for getting beryl to work with feisty10:52
theoryI tried to install by Automatix but I think it doesn't works...10:53
riadhi, if i install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu will i have all the features like compiz?10:53
Search4Lanceroi, it looked like it had trouble installing "debconf".. whatever that is10:53
chemicalvampdec_ ohh beryl, i dont have much info on beryl, i got xgl up on edgy, and took it out cuz cpu usage was thru the roof.. cpu temp was really high10:53
dec_what about compiz10:54
Search4Lancerberyl was the worst few days in this computer's life....10:54
dec_sounds like beryl is not the way to go10:54
eXistenZDo you guys recommend upgrading to fiesty?10:54
DaSkreech!java | theory10:54
ubotutheory: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:54
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Search4LancerI hope so, because I'm in the middle of the upgrade right now!10:54
tapaswhat settings do i need to use so that i can switch between beryl and kwin without magical desktop pager failures?10:54
DaSkreechdec_: You can ask in #ubuntu-effects which one would be better for yoru machine10:55
DaSkreecheXistenZ: Whats important to you?10:55
plhardytheory: why do you need java ?10:55
MinceRi'm still trying to figure out which repository did opera move to10:55
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DaSkreech!opera10:55
nbcbhelp why do i hit into too many open files in ktorrent? i tried to set ulimit -n 2048 already but still not enough10:55
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser10:55
theorythanks DaSkreech10:55
eXistenZDaSkreech: nothing10:55
DaSkreecheXistenZ: then sure :)10:55
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Search4Lancerhow comforting10:56
nbcb!bittorrent10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
nbcb!bt10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
klaos10:58
klaosoi I brought up to date mine ubuntu edgy pro feisty and when I try to enter in ubuntu in kernel it appears the following message: Psmousee.c Bad Date from KBC Out teams and nao initiates the system10:58
the_hammertry !ktorrent10:58
the_hammer!ktorrent10:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:58
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klaosnao *no10:58
the_hammerhmm bots messed up lol10:58
chemicalvampok i cant get this working, can i get an example of how somebody would extract a self extracting .exe?10:58
DaSkreechnbcb: What are you lokking for?10:58
DaSkreechLooking even10:58
Cosmo_ I got the drivers for my printer installed and it shows up, but whenever I try to print anything my printer shows reciving data but nothing ever prints (the printer is a brother 1840C and I am running 7.04) anyone know how to fix this?10:58
the_hammerummm exe files ya cant extract with linux as far as i know10:59
david__My laptop crashes anytime I put an AUDIO cd in before kde daemon comes up. DVD and data cds are fine.10:59
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ShaddoxUgh, okay, now that i'm done with belkin, i need help with my wireless. :D10:59
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DaSkreechthe_hammer: sure. You can Install wine10:59
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DaSkreech!wifi | Shaddox10:59
ubotuShaddox: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:59
the_hammerthat depends also10:59
ShaddoxI looked over that10:59
ShaddoxAnd it didnt help worth a damn10:59
ShaddoxMy wireless still doesnt work11:00
nbcbwhat does SVN mean?11:00
AloneaOk, the Wireless Assistant is no longer automatically connecting to the internet any more. It started after upgrade. How do I get to to autoconnect again?11:00
the_hammerwhat netcard is your wireless?11:00
david__Any ideas why kubuntu would crash hard only when an AUDIO CD is installed?11:00
Aloneanbcb: subversion11:00
david__inserted.11:00
dacjisao of lbo11:00
Shaddoxthe_hammer: Broadcom, on the bcm43xx driver.11:00
the_hammerhave ya tried ndiswrapper?11:00
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AloneaShaddox: you will have to ndiswrapper your broadcom. I have broadcom card too.11:01
Shaddoxbleh11:01
Shaddoxthen someones gonna have to help me with it11:01
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Shaddoxi tried ndis on my first day of linux, in freebsd, and failed miserably. X_x11:01
Shaddoxafter that the kernel refused to load, so i installed freebsd again till i got ubuntu, and then kubuntu yesterday ^^11:01
nbcbhelp why do i hit into too many open files in ktorrent? i tried to set ulimit -n 2048 already but still not enough11:01
DaSkreech!subversion11:02
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion11:02
AloneaShaddox: well, first thing you do is install it. then you install your driver, then sudo rmmod bcm43xx (you will have to blacklist it) then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper11:02
Shaddoxokay11:02
Shaddoxi have no clue what any of that means.11:02
DaSkreechShaddox: Whoot for Kubuntu :)11:02
theoryDaSkreech: but I have 64bit architecture... it's a tutorial of x86 I think...11:02
DaSkreechShaddox: You did the Wifi troubleshooting?11:02
AloneaShaddox: oh, well, i assumed you had an idea since you tried it before11:03
ShaddoxDaSkreech: That site didnt help me wirth a damn X_x11:03
ShaddoxAlonea: I had wireless working in regular ubuntu without needing ndiswrapper.11:03
Search4LancerI've had 57 minutes remaining in the upgrade installation for the past 15 minutes.... :-|11:03
ShaddoxAlonea: Why do I need it now?11:03
DaSkreechShaddox: where did you get to?11:03
AloneaShaddox: Oh? wow. you got a broadcom to work without ndiswrapper?11:03
cathythis feisty livecd is a pain...doesn't use partition identifiers like sda1, sda2...you have to install tons of apps to get help...and gparted won't load this time around (it did last night)11:03
DaSkreechHiya Alonea :)11:03
AloneaDaSkreech: hey!11:03
ShaddoxAlonea: Someone made me do fwcutter then a bunch of stuff11:03
ShaddoxAlonea: It was VERY touchy11:03
ShaddoxAlonea: But it worked11:04
AloneaShaddox: oh! ok. ndiswrapper is easier for me.11:04
so_sauvewoot! Update complete, time to reboot11:04
AloneaShaddox: which card is it?11:04
MinceRperhaps the canonical.com repo is broken? adept doesn't do anything when i press Request Install and synaptic tells me it has no available version but exists in the database11:04
so_sauvehold on to your butts!11:04
MinceRi've updated the db11:04
ShaddoxAlonea: Some 54g.org card11:04
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cpk1Shaddox: so just use fwcutter again or is fiesty supposed to support your bcm out of the box?11:04
AloneaShaddox: goto a console and type in lspci11:04
Shaddoxcpk1: I was told feisty is supposed to support it out of the box.11:05
AloneaShaddox: it will say name of card under there11:05
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ShaddoxAlonea: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)11:05
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: Tentative huh?11:05
cathyi mounted some of my partitions, and tried "fdisk -l /media/bootdos: and got nothing11:05
AloneaShaddox: ok good. exact same card I have11:05
ShaddoxAlonea: HP Pavilion zv6130us? :D11:05
AloneaShaddox: dv8000 series, dv8113cl11:06
Search4LancerDaSkreech: yuppers... though it is down to 44 minutes now. Such is life with ever-changing estimates11:06
Search4Lancerit's still having trouble with debconf11:06
ShaddoxAlonea: Good, my laptops a piece of crap, glad you dont have a piece of crap :D11:06
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: It's probably redoing the kernel or one of those really long operations and until it's done it doesn't update it's estimate11:06
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AloneaShaddox: ok first thing is download latest version of ndiswrapper and unarchive it in your home folder11:07
chemicalvampShaddox whats your laptop>11:07
Search4Lanceroh kripes, do I want to replace host.conf (which is apparently customized) with the new one?11:07
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Shaddoxchemicalvamp: HP Pavilion v6130us, repaired and damaged11:07
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DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: backup your old one before you answer the question11:07
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: easy :-)11:08
Search4Lancer10-4 good buddy11:08
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: did you customize it?11:08
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KikkomanHi, I'm running an IRCd, which I can connect to perfectly, but nobody else can. They get connection timed out. How do I fix this?11:08
chemicalvampShaddox edgy problems or feisty?11:08
Search4Lancerheck if I know11:08
Sannecathy: I think you need to give fdisk the actual device name. /media/bootdos is just the mount point, that is, the directory from where you can access your partition. Harddisk device names are typically /dev/hda -hdb -hdc etc for IDE, -sda, sdb... for SATA11:08
livingdaylightif something says it needs python 2.4 would version 2.5.1 automatically cover it?11:08
Shaddoxchemicalvamp: Feisty. FINALLY managed to upgrade. :D11:08
chemicalvampif its feisty i bet its wireless problems11:08
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: back it up use the one suggested and go11:08
ShaddoxUg11:08
DaSkreechNormally the ones given by the provider are tuned to work11:09
ShaddoxSearch4Lancer is spamming me in private :/11:09
Sannelivingdaylight: not necessarily11:09
chemicalvampShaddox you shoulda ot the iso11:09
DaSkreechif somethign changes you can put back your customizations11:09
cathySanne: yes, tried the /dev/sda1 first, no result, then tried /media/bootdos...no result; now i tried /dev/sda1 again, and for some strange reason i got a result11:09
cpk1cathy: try using sudo11:09
cpk1also you can just do fdisk -l to list all the partitions11:09
cathytis ok...i'm gonna try some of the other partitions now, since i got a result the last time11:10
livingdaylightSanne, thx, so looks like i'm gonna need to install python 2.4 then as default here is 2.5.1. But installing older is not gonna upset the latest version?11:10
Sannecathy: the device would be /dev/sda. /dev/sda1 is the first partition of /dev/sda. And listen to cpk1 :)11:10
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livingdaylightanyone know or use Webilder?11:11
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cpk1depending on permissions fdisk -l might output nothing, so if thats the case use sudo11:11
Search4Lancerhey, you said you're running on a piece of crap, just trying to help you out11:11
compukeksmoinsen everybody^^11:11
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chemicalvampfdisk -l doesnt work on a live cd11:11
Sannelivingdaylight: first youcould try if it works with python 2.5, I don't know if it would. If it doesn't, so far it was always possible to install several python versions in parallel. Check if you gat a message that tell you python 2.5 will be removed when you install 2.5, but I guess it will work.11:11
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Sannelivingdaylight: if you install 2.4, you would need to tell the program to use that one instead of python 2.511:12
livingdaylightSanne, thx. yes, webilder say 2.4 is dependency11:12
Search4LancerDaSkreech: all the old one had was "multi off", so... whatever, eh?11:12
sulamitahi. I'm using us international keyboard, how do I change  to the ?11:12
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so_sauveSweet, back online!11:13
MinceRinstalling via GDebi from the canonical.com website worked... but this is really ugly.11:13
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DaSkreechcpk1: I think you have to sudo that fdisk -l11:13
DaSkreechSearch4Lancer: :-)11:13
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chemicalvampDaSkreech right11:13
DaSkreechso_sauve: can I let go of my butt now? the others are starting to give me very strange looks11:13
cpk1DaSkreech: ummm, yes as I pointed out =P11:13
Doctor_Nickin KDevelop, how do you start the program with some arguments11:14
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DaSkreechWhy so you did cpk1 well done :)11:14
cpk1haha11:14
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MinceRapparently, the commercial repo at canonical.com for feisty is totally empty, unlike the one for edgy11:17
shawn34i installed ubuntu dapper beta cd i had on an old laptop. installed all the updates, but when i run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it doesn't tell me that there are any ditro updates avail. what am i doing wrong?11:17
chemicalvampshawn34 did you do sudo apt-get update first?11:17
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Sanneshawn34: you may want to have a look here, should get you going: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:19
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arooHow can I add startup programs in KDE?11:19
livingdaylight!multimedia11:19
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications11:19
DezineI initially installed Ubuntu and install KDE afterwords.. what's the best way to remove Gnome?11:20
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DaSkreecharoo: to start when KDE starts?11:21
arooYes11:21
chemicalvampyeai wanna know how to do that also11:21
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DaSkreechDezine: I think that you can remove the GLibs and it should zap Most of gnome11:21
DaSkreech!autostart11:21
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.11:21
arooThanks DaSkreech11:21
KikkomanI have a firewall error. It seems that when users try to connect, they get a Connection timed out error. How do I fix this?11:21
DezineAlrighttt11:22
livingdaylight!restricted11:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:22
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DaSkreechKikkoman: punch a hole for them11:22
Kikkomannaw use the easy way11:23
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just-this-timeany ubuntu pages maintainers here pls ?11:23
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DaSkreechjust-this-time: Eh?11:23
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chemicalvamp./root/.kde/Autostart/ does not exist.. hmm11:23
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DaSkreechchemicalvamp: that's not a real path11:24
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dettoaltrimenti_does anyone here use dcgui?11:24
DaSkreechchemicalvamp: and dont' log in sroot11:25
chemicalvampits in my paths.. /root/.kde/Autostart/11:25
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shawn34Why does Ktorrent stop uploading once my download finishes, even though i have that option to keep seeding checked ?11:25
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DaSkreechshawn34: no one else wants things from you?11:25
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shawn34lol11:25
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thefirstdudeon booting I get error "fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e55a63e8-fa2e-4cde-9fc6-#########"11:26
dettoaltrimenti_shawn34- does it say 'seeding' or 'download finished'?11:26
Cosmo_ I got the drivers for my printer installed and it shows up, but whenever I try to print anything my printer shows reciving data but nothing ever prints (the printer is a brother 1840C and I am running 7.04) anyone know how to fix this?11:26
thefirstdudeit says fix manually?11:26
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Dezinemy kubuntu is so pretty :D11:26
adaptrthefirstdude: what did you change about your hard disk(s) ?11:26
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Dezinethanks for the help, see ya later11:27
thefirstdudethen says "fsck died with exit status 8"11:27
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adaptrthefirstdude: run it manually, then - but why would you have to ? in which part of the boot sequence is this ?11:30
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dasnipaso where are desktop-effects enabled in kde?11:30
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Search4Lancerchemicalvamp: not too familiar with IRC, are you? that was the netsplit fixing up11:37
Doctor_Nickso11:38
Search4Lanceranyway, I keep getting this error every few minutes during the upgrade, don't know what to make of it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16926/11:38
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nixternalSearch4Lancer: are you logged in as one user, and then logged in via terminal as a different user trying to start a gui app?11:39
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Search4Lancernixternal: no, I'm upgrading...11:39
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nixternali.e., I am logged in to my machine as nixternal, but I have kde-devel signed in at the terminal working on KDE 4 stuff11:39
fdovingSearch4Lancer: you can try to run 'xhost +local:' as the user running X.11:39
livingdaylight!medibuntu11:39
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/11:39
nixternalyup11:39
nixternalfdoving: learned that from the kde-devel thing ;)11:39
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Search4Lancerwell... I don't know why the distribution upgrade program would be trying to start applications...11:40
fdovingSearch4Lancer: because it wants to show you nice graphics and pgroessbars.11:40
fdovingsorry about the spellingmistakes, new keyboard.11:40
nixternalahhh, that is debconf trying to launch a silly window for you to agree to a license I think11:40
Search4Lancermm, well progress bar seems to be working just fine ;-) so it's nothing actually going wrong with the upgrade?11:40
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chemicalvampnixternal yeah just seeing 400 users go down to 190 or so and then all comming back up to 400 just remind me of the word "upchuck"11:41
nixternalhehe11:41
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nixternalSearch4Lancer: the upgrade will more than likely go through, if it pukes on something it will let you know and crash out11:41
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nixternalif it does then just run 'sudo apt-get --fix-missing install' and it will install everything else in the update11:42
chemicalvampgotta love gateway for sticking the drivers made for your laptop, into a self extracting exe... JUST so us linux users cant open them11:42
nixternalthen you can go back to it when you are done11:42
nixternalchemicalvamp: cabextract is the utility you want to open it11:42
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nixternal!info cabextract11:42
ubotucabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB11:42
aftermathhow do I sudo a graphical app?11:42
nixternalit will extract the compressed .exe's as well11:43
fdovingaftermath: kdesu11:43
nixternalaftermath: kdesu11:43
nixternalheh11:43
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aftermathfdoving: nixternal: ty11:43
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nixternalno problem11:43
Naradahi guys11:43
nixternalhiya Narada11:43
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nixternalNarada: just to be politically correct, don't forget about the gals ;)11:43
Naradadoes feisty have like beryl, xgl or aiglx etc; i.e. cool 3d effects?11:43
fdovingnixternal: does cabextract extract .exes ? i use 'orange11:43
chemicalvampnixternal can i have an example command?11:43
fdoving f' for that..11:43
nixternalfdoving: yes, I had to use it for my laptop for ndiswrapper11:44
Naradanixternal: girls? where? where? where?11:44
nixternalcabextract filename.exe11:44
aftermathah nice, I can access my mounts from k3b now, thanks11:44
nixternalNarada: now no a/s/l please ;)11:44
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chemicalvampwhere does the destination go?11:44
nixternalto the directory you ran the command11:44
Naradalol11:44
nixternalor where the file is located11:44
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chemicalvampk11:44
LynoureNarada: What, you are not a girl? :)11:44
fdovingnixternal: if it's not a cab, try orange it handles most things, including cabextract things.11:44
livingdaylighthi, Can someone help me with Medibuntu?11:45
Naradaof course not11:45
Naradadoes my nick sound like it? some people say so11:45
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nixternalI will give orange a checkout11:45
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nixternalhaha Lynoure  ;)11:45
aftermathhow do I open konquerer from the konsole?11:45
nixternalkonqueror11:45
fdovingor kfmclient11:45
aftermathreminds me a bit of mortal kombat tbh11:45
nixternalor w..fdajl what fdoving just said11:46
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aftermathwhat are joliet extensions?11:47
chemicalvampnixternal /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/Desktop/drivers/wirelessdriver.exe: no valid cabinets found11:47
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KrAmMeRdoes anyone know of a good cheap graphics card that will work well with dual monitors?11:47
KrAmMeRusing svideo11:47
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Sanneaftermath: extensions to the cdrom file system for windows, I believe11:48
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aftermathSanne: ty11:48
mehdi_slt tous le monde11:48
Sanneaftermath: yw :)11:48
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epzthi, got a problem with digital camera (canon powershop ds20 usb) which is no more recognised with edgy kernel 2.6.17-11-38611:49
LynoureNarada: I guess it depends on the language/culture. :) Just like Kai and Kari are both male names in my mind :)11:49
mehdi_hello world11:49
aftermathhello mars11:49
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ShaddoxQuestion: How do I delete a directory in Konsole with a sudo wrapper?11:49
aftermathsudo rmdir?11:50
dec_i just installed compiz in feisty and wanted to know how to start it11:50
chemicalvampnixternal heh i give up.. lol i'll find a windows box extract them on it, and burn them11:50
ShaddoxHow do I remove it even though it's not empty? I want to delete it and all its files.11:50
fdovingchemicalvamp: get the organge package and try it out.11:50
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fdovingShaddox: sudo rm -r directory/11:50
excitatory_so now suddenly alt-space will not launch katapult, and alt-f2 will not launch the run command11:50
NaradaLynoure: your name sounds female; is it?11:50
chemicalvampfdoving h?uh11:50
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aftermathk3b keeps messing up11:51
Shaddoxfdoving: rmdir: invalid option -- r11:51
aftermathrm11:51
apusis their peergaurdian on linux?11:51
aftermathnot rmdir11:51
fdovingchemicalvamp: orange - http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/orange11:51
mehdi_there is P2P softs in linux?11:51
fdovingShaddox: rm, not  rmdir.11:51
epztrm -R thedirectory/11:51
Shaddoxaftermath: Thanks :D11:51
aftermathktorrent bittorrent client, mehdi_11:51
NaradaLynoure: my nick is the name of the most loyal devotee of god in ancient indian mythology11:51
epztamule11:51
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NaradaLynoure: of course the devotee was male11:52
mehdi_aftermath not torrent11:52
LynoureNarada: it's just my name. :) Not female or male name as such.11:52
chemicalvampwell the exe im trying isnt a cabinet i dont think. in windows it extracted to c:/11:52
chemicalvampand oned a readme11:52
chemicalvampopened*11:52
aftermathany ideas why k3b isn't burning my disks properly?11:52
kdawgmaybe burning too fast?11:52
chemicalvampaftermath i had that once before11:52
aftermathit might be11:53
kdawgI have that problem sometimes and have to scale back the burning speed11:53
aftermathit used the defaults of 99x :D11:53
chemicalvamphave you rebooted11:53
mehdi_aftermath:  like limewire11:53
aftermathmehdi_: I never used limewire, I wouldn't know11:53
apusaftermath make sure you are using version 1.x11:53
NaradaLynoure: well i asked the wrong question; that last bit was meant to be "are you?"11:53
aftermathversion 1.x what?11:53
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chemicalvampaftermath when i tryed it it couldnt verify the cd contents, but it did burn correctly, put into another machine and see if it is correct11:54
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Naradahmm i wonder if i should try ubuntu before getting the newer version of kubuntu11:54
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aftermathit can't be, I made it burn 3.4 GB and it stopped after 18 seconds or so11:54
aftermathor 18 millis11:54
aftermathI can't tell11:54
LynoureNarada: But if you meant to ask about me, not the name, I seem to be. Never gotten a gene test, or become a mother,  but other that that  I'm pretty sure I am :) Cannot promise any such thing about my mind, though.11:54
dekmy internet works VERY slow in Linux, but works fast in Windows (for same source). Any ideas?11:55
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kdawgdek: are you using wireless or a cable?11:55
chemicalvampdek what type of internet11:55
NaradaLynoure: Well.. awesome!11:55
dekDSL, not wireless11:56
aftermathnothing happens when I select Settings > K3B Setup11:56
dekits strange because last time i logged in it worked fine11:56
deklike a week ago11:56
kdawgyeah, I mean do you have a wireless card or are you hardwired to the router11:56
chemicalvampdek are you using knetworkmanager?11:56
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dec_anyone know how to start compiz from feisty11:56
Tired_what is the kubuntu equivalent of repairing my IP in XP?11:56
dekchemicalvamp: how can i know?11:57
dekI dont have a wireless card11:57
LynoureNarada: 50/50 chance, more or less. =)11:57
dekI tried disabing IPv6 and it didnt help11:57
chemicalvampdec_ #ubuntu-effects11:57
kdawgdo you have a static ip or DHCP11:57
Tired_I want it to call up DHCP again and get a better IP.11:57
dekdinamic IP11:57
Naradak3b for burning cds right?11:58
Naradai mean that's recommended?11:58
chemicalvampdek knetworkmanager tends to fix things for me, maybe you can try it11:58
aftermathIn k3b, how do I change the writespeed?11:58
kdawgyeah I use knetworkmanager on my feisty kubuntu install and it works great11:58
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dekchemicalvamp: ok, will download (i hope it doesnt take long :P)11:59
chemicalvampOMG why does it paste randomly while i type!? or move my cursor back into earyler parts of my sentances... soo annoying11:59
chemicalvampdek lol what speed are you on?11:59
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kdawgaftermath: I think it prompts you to change it right before you burn something12:00
aftermaththanks12:00
Naradaheh k3b is asking me the write speed of my dvd writer; how do i know; i don't remember12:00
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aftermathNarada, it usually says on your drive12:00
chemicalvampNarada defualt is correct12:00
Tired_... what's the command for configuring my X server from the console? now X doesn't wanna start  :/12:00
dekchemicalvamp: should be 1024kbps down 128 kbps up12:00
dekchemicalvamp: at least in Windows it is :P12:00
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chemicalvampdek yeah "should be" what are you hitting nw12:01
aftermathI'm getting emo.12:01
aftermathI set the speed to 1x, and it still crashed :/12:01
dekwhat?12:01
Naradak12:01
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aftermathIncorrectly encoded string (Torrent.lnk) encountered.12:01
aftermathPossibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting.12:01
chemicalvampdek your speed, what is it right now as is12:01
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dekchemicalvamp: i download and browse VERY slow, like 10 kb/s or less12:02
kdawgaftermath: what are you trying to burn... an image?12:02
aftermathno, files12:02
Search4Lanceralright, I got through the upgrade, now to try to fix everything it broke...12:02
BluesKajTired_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:02
aftermathactually, I have a k3b made12:02
Tired_thanks12:02
kdawgwhat kind of media are you using12:02
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aftermathalthough I don't know if that's an image or just a project file12:02
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aftermathI'm using DVD-R12:02
Dodger73so... it looks like after upgrading to feisty gtk-qt-engine is causing X errors (integer out of range) when running gtk apps12:02
Dodger73anyone else seen this problem?12:03
kdawgis it like a cheap dvd-r or name brand12:03
kdawgcuz that makes a big difference on my drive12:03
sstchurWhere can I find a guide on installing the latest nvidia drivers that are needed for beryl?12:03
aftermathIt worked with PowerISO on win12:03
aftermathI'm using fujifilm12:03
Naradawoah i never realised how easy k3b was to use12:03
Dodger73sstchur: 9746 work for me12:03
chemicalvamp*wonders if k3b supports this big bad dual layer dvd...12:03
kdawgsstchur, I just download the driver from nvidia.com and exit to a shell and run it, it works everytime12:03
Naradacd burning got a whole lot easier since i last used cdrecord12:03
Naradaubuntu rocks12:04
Dodger73you can just download them from nvidia.com and start the installer ;)12:04
kdawgaftermath, what is the extension of the file you are burning12:04
aftermathI have a ton.12:04
kdawgmaybe linux doesn;t support it out of the box12:04
kdawgah12:04
Naradai don't have a cd writing pen though; big problem12:04
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sstchurkdawg: I'll give it a try!12:05
Naradaquite cool that kubuntu still gits on a cd though; vista needs like two dvds heh12:05
apusnarada: cd writing pen?12:05
Naradas/gits/fits/12:05
Naradaapus: yeah12:05
Naradayou know?12:05
chemicalvampfor free-hand cd writing12:05
kdawgsstchur, do a ctrl+F1 and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop,  then sudo sh ./NVIDIA_installer....... and walk through it12:05
Naradadon't tell me you use lightscribe or something similar12:06
kdawgthen when its done, do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it should work12:06
apusnarada: I use a sharpie?12:06
chemicalvampohh im lost12:06
Naradaapus: wth is that12:06
apusnarada: light scribe is cool, but pointless12:06
kdawgback up your xorg file first though!12:06
aos101Vista Ultimate is one DVD, but yes it is very heavy compared to Kubuntu.12:06
apusNarada: a marker?12:06
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Naradawoohoo kubuntu feisty is burnt baby12:06
ShiftedBeefLightscribe is kinda neat I think.12:06
Arwenlol12:06
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kdawgsstchur: oops, i mean ctrl-alt-F112:06
Naradaapus: well i don't have one of those either12:06
ArwenShiftedBeef, the discs cost a fortune though :-\12:06
ShiftedBeefTrue.12:07
apusShiftedBeef: oh it is neato, but useless, too slow and expensive for mass production, and nothing small production needs lightscrab where cd labels wont suffice12:07
apusNarada: where do you live?12:07
apuslightscribe*12:07
Naradalondon why12:07
apusNarada: sharpies are pretty much the only permanent marker in the usa12:07
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apusNarada: any permanent marker works decently well, advetually it will wear off12:08
chemicalvampbiggest brand name of permanent markers*12:08
LynoureI better sleep if I ever plan to get better...12:08
apusluckily its one of the few monopolies where they are actually good12:08
sstchurkdawg: Ok, I'll try that now12:09
Naradaapus: i have no need for markers; so i don't buy them12:09
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apusNarada: yes you do! cds!12:09
Naradaapus: i guess they call them differently here12:09
Naradaheh yeah12:09
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BluesKajhmm, ktorrent keeps crashing ...about once every hr... anyone experience the same ?12:10
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ShiftedBeefMine seems ok.12:10
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apusanyone know why open office 2.2 would crash when it opens a doc12:11
apusi need to open it :(12:11
kdawgblueskaj yeah my ktorrent crashes unexpectedly too12:11
BluesKajfeisty , ShiftedBeef?12:11
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ShiftedBeefNope, Dapper.12:11
kdawgand azureus stops downloading frequently, so I dont know what the deal is12:11
BluesKajmust be a bug kdawg12:12
kdawgguess so12:12
ShiftedBeefGetting feisty though.12:12
kdawgI like azureus better though, it has more plugins, but it is a super memory hog....12:12
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BluesKajazureus..I quit it a long time ago ... i would run worth sh*t on my system12:12
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Search4Lancerwow, it'd be awesome if that "known problems" page would actually load...12:12
kdawgyeah i had that problem too, had to get more memory12:13
Arwenkdawg, do you have sun java? azureus fails to dl using gij12:13
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kdawgyeah I installed sun-java6 from the feisty repositories12:13
naegling23ive got a silly question, The kde system guard applet, I accidently removed the cpu display from it....how do I get it back?12:13
kdawgI think I'll ditch it and install from the sun download page12:13
kdawgthats what worked for me when I ran edgy12:13
MinceRdoes the deb.opera.com repo work well with ubuntu?12:14
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Arwenman.... 60K/s on torrent... not cool12:14

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