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| testingltsp | dude, anybody here? | 05:48 |
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| Burgundavia | yep | 05:48 |
| testingltsp | Burgundavia: I've installed LTSP5 in Edubuntu | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | right | 05:49 |
| testingltsp | but I'm not able to login at the terminal side | 05:49 |
| testingltsp | always kick me back to the login screen | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 05:50 |
| testingltsp | did u success in ltsp? | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | I don't use LTSP :) | 05:51 |
| Burgundavia | boss won't let me | 05:51 |
| testingltsp | sob sob | 05:51 |
| testingltsp | sob sob sob | 05:51 |
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| LaserJock | testingltsp: can you login on the server? | 05:53 |
| testingltsp | yes | 06:02 |
| testingltsp | i think something wrong with the SSH | 06:03 |
| testingltsp | all users can login to Server | 06:03 |
| testingltsp | i mean on server | 06:03 |
| testingltsp | I've tested on terminal with the text login, it is kicking me back to the login prompt too | 06:04 |
| testingltsp | investigated /var/log/auth, seeing the login in instant in * out | 06:05 |
| testingltsp | is there a SSH Script can make the server to allow all the Users to login remotely in Ubuntu? | 06:09 |
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| testingltsp | anybody installed LTSP5? | 06:15 |
| Bhaskar1 | can i migrate ubuntu 6.06 to edubuntu , Any idea? now i have ubuntu 6.06 | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | you can install edubuntu-desktop and if you need LTSP ltsp-server-standalone | 06:32 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, ya, i want to get edubuntu without uninstall of ubuntu6.06 but how | 06:33 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, edubuntu with LTSP | 06:34 |
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| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: so you need to do what I said above | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | and then I think run ltsp-build-client | 06:42 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop | 06:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | Reading package lists... Done | 06:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | Building dependency tree... Done | 06:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop | 06:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, now what to do? | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | do you have network? | 06:46 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, ya | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | hmm, something must be messed up | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me? | 06:48 |
| Bhaskar1 | ok | 06:49 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, for pastebin link? | 06:55 |
| testingltsp | I'm too noob to troubleshoot ssh remote login in ltsp, please advise what should i do pls | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | !pastebin | 06:57 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | testingltsp: I realy don't know. I've never heard of that problem | 06:57 |
| testingltsp | u have done 7.04 + LTSP5? | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | testingltsp: you might want to email the edubuntu-users mailing list | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | testingltsp: nope | 06:57 |
| testingltsp | LaserJock: I've done previous version without this problem | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | testingltsp: the mailing list is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users | 06:58 |
| testingltsp | LaserJock: ok | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | it's an odd problem | 06:58 |
| testingltsp | LaserJock: maybe is new.... I've installed ubuntu7.04 + LTSP5 & edubuntu7.04+LTSP5, same problem | 06:59 |
| testingltsp | LaserJock: is the link correct? | 07:00 |
| testingltsp | LaserJock: correct | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:01 |
| testingltsp | tiring with Microsoft cos is leeching lots of my $$$, wish to convert my internet center with edubuntu | 07:03 |
| testingltsp | the sound improvement in LTSP makes me excited | 07:03 |
| testingltsp | too bad still not able to test now | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:04 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16971/ i have pasted sources.list | 07:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | testingltsp, do you have sabayon installed? | 07:05 |
| testingltsp | I've tested before | 07:06 |
| testingltsp | slow | 07:06 |
| testingltsp | not sure about the new one | 07:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | do you have it installed on the server your having problems with? | 07:06 |
| testingltsp | is sabayon works great with LTSP5? | 07:06 |
| testingltsp | never try LTSP5 with Sabayon | 07:06 |
| testingltsp | LTSP always works great with SuSE | 07:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i ask becaues unless you have users in groups (i forget what sabayon calls them - profiles?) they cant log in with sabayon installed | 07:07 |
| testingltsp | ohh | 07:07 |
| testingltsp | i saw this feature too | 07:07 |
| testingltsp | sabayon got a profile editor | 07:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i took about 16 hours trying, ogra fixed me in seconds (note this is dapper) | 07:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it may/may not be different on the latest versions | 07:07 |
| testingltsp | still prefer ubuntu + LTSP5 | 07:08 |
| testingltsp | anybody success to install ubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5? | 07:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | havent tried. | 07:09 |
| testingltsp | i think i nid to reinstall cos got brokage in ltspfsd | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: ok, you've severly messed up your system there, you have no software repositories :-) | 07:10 |
| testingltsp | Bhaskarl: do u use sypnatic package manager? | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: you need to go into System->Administration->Software Sources | 07:11 |
| testingltsp | friends, see u 12 hours later, I'm trying to reinstall edubuntu 7.04 + ltsp5 without ltspsd, hear my good news soon, tata | 07:13 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, System->Administration->Software Sources, there is no software sources, there is software properties | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | ok, that'll work | 07:21 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, so now what to do ? | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | click on some software sources | 07:28 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, software sources ?? | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | you should be able to select Main and Universe | 07:33 |
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| testingltsp | haha reinstallation of edubuntu takes only 15 minutes | 07:35 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, i have no software sources on System-->Administration---> | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: you should have Software Properties though, right? | 07:37 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, ya | 07:38 |
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| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: that's what you want | 07:39 |
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| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, so what to do | 07:39 |
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| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: well you should see some tabs | 07:40 |
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| LaserJock | on the first one there should be some options | 07:40 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, install media,internet update and Authentication | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | on the first tab you should find an option for Main and Universe | 07:42 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, no first tab is install media, | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | fine | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | but do you see checkboxes for Main and Universe? | 07:44 |
| Bhaskar1 | there is add--> | 07:44 |
| Bhaskar1 | then components] | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | ok, components sounds right | 07:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | community maintain,Non-free etc are there | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | ok | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | you want commnity maintained | 07:45 |
| Bhaskar1 | officially supported also there | 07:45 |
| LaserJock | yes, you want that one as well | 07:46 |
| Bhaskar1 | so which check box is right | 07:46 |
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| LaserJock | I think you can just do all the ones there | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | officialy supported, community supported, non-free, and restricted | 07:46 |
| Bhaskar1 | ok | 07:47 |
| Bhaskar1 | then | 07:47 |
| Bhaskar1 | and in channel? | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | hmm, what's in there? | 07:49 |
| Bhaskar1 | there is ubuntu 6.06 update, backports, etc | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | you'll want updates and security | 07:52 |
| Bhaskar1 | ok | 07:52 |
| Bhaskar1 | further ..? | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | I think that'll do it for now | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | you should be able to sudo apt-get update | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | and then install/upgrade | 07:54 |
| Bhaskar1 | ya, ran apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, then error is :Reading package lists... Done | 07:57 |
| Bhaskar1 | Building dependency tree... Done | 07:58 |
| Bhaskar1 | E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: did you run sudo apt-get update first? | 08:01 |
| Bhaskar1 | ya | 08:06 |
| Bhaskar1 | sudo apt-get update | 08:06 |
| Bhaskar1 | Reading package lists... Done | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | can you paste the /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:07 |
| Bhaskar1 | ok | 08:08 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16978/ | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: for some reason you still don't have any software repos | 08:18 |
| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, so what is the solution to proceed | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | ok | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | and put in the following lines | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | except you might want to change the us.archive part to just archive if you aren't in the US | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | then save it and run sudo apt-get update | 08:37 |
| kgoetz | anyone know what that ubuntu AD replacement project was? i cant for the life of me think of keywords to search it | 08:37 |
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| Bhaskar1 | LaserJock, it is working | 09:03 |
| Bhaskar1 | sudo apt-get update is working | 09:04 |
| Meshezabeel | edgy used to work to display to my tv with my ati card, but upgrade to feisty, tv only displays wavy lines, any idea how I can fix it, at least some of the settings are still in my xorg.conf, maybe all, but I'm not sure if it's an xorg problem or something else | 09:04 |
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| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: good to hear | 09:20 |
| LaserJock | Bhaskar1: I'm off to bed now, hope it works out for you | 09:20 |
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| Bhaskar1 | Laser_away, ok | 09:34 |
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| Meshezabeel | can someone tell me if they have the file: /usr/include/xorg/xf86drm.h | 09:58 |
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| testingltsp | anybody tried edubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5? | 10:21 |
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| benplaut | I've got a bit of a dream situation--somewhat of an open budget, open for ideas for a new school lab of ~8-10 clients | 11:12 |
| juliux | hi benplaut | 11:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi benplaut | 11:12 |
| juliux | benplaut, you only need clients or also a server? | 11:13 |
| benplaut | i'm thinking of an edubuntu LTSP server and some thin clients from a big name (hp?), but i'm wondering... is edubuntu appropriate for high school, or will the geeks still be able to screw around with it? | 11:13 |
| benplaut | hola folks | 11:13 |
| benplaut | starting from complete scratch, with a pretty much open budget | 11:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nto so much geeks screwing with it, problems more 'childish' nature of edubuntu (unless fiesty is much less that way) | 11:14 |
| benplaut | ok | 11:14 |
| benplaut | also, this would have to be pretty much self-sustaining... i can set it up, but i'd be too far away to admin it on a regular basis | 11:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then hope they never get different students ;), or it wont manage itself | 11:15 |
| benplaut | ok... exception for that ;) | 11:15 |
| benplaut | if it's simple enough for the librarian to add users, then OK :P | 11:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. with suitable training probably. | 11:16 |
| benplaut | is it through the gnome users dialog? | 11:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | that or adduser via cli. i suspect you want the librarian going via gnome ui yeh | 11:18 |
| benplaut | ok | 11:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | myself (if i was doign ltsp for a highschool) i'd go with 'proper' ubuntu+ltsp | 11:18 |
| benplaut | could set up something with zenity if needed, too | 11:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rather then edubuntu | 11:18 |
| benplaut | ok | 11:18 |
| benplaut | right now (with 7 XP boxen), they're using a software called 'deep freeze' that restores to an image after a certain amount of inactivity... i suppose that wouldn't work too well in this case since you couldn't have multiple logins from the same general student acccount | 11:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure, but afaik you can do the same thing if you want | 11:25 |
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| benplaut | yea, i dunno | 11:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure how you would set it up though | 11:25 |
| benplaut | scripts to rm ~, then copy in a template each time it restarts | 11:25 |
| benplaut | maybe =/ | 11:25 |
| benplaut | ultimately, the students in this school have no use for a user account of their own, and to keep it consistent with the other computers, something like that would have to be in place | 11:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | when it boots you use a kernel image that pulls the whole system over the network fresh and boots it, rather then just the boot image, but the details i dunno | 11:26 |
| benplaut | it can be done, but would take some work | 11:26 |
| benplaut | yup | 11:27 |
| benplaut | i guess you could set up one user account for each computer, autologin to it, then have some shell scripts doing to work | 11:28 |
| benplaut | *the work | 11:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. doesnt sound pretty | 11:29 |
| benplaut | nope | 11:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if you need scripts run, do them on bootup (as init) | 11:30 |
| benplaut | yea | 11:30 |
| benplaut | http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Deepfreeze_for_Linux | 11:31 |
| benplaut | looks like somebody has already done it | 11:32 |
| benplaut | in about 20 lines of bash :P | 11:32 |
| Burgundavia | actually, it is simpler than that | 11:32 |
| Burgundavia | log them in as regular users | 11:32 |
| Burgundavia | then nuke the home dir on logout | 11:33 |
| Burgundavia | and use pam-mkhomedir on login | 11:33 |
| benplaut | pam-mkhomedir? | 11:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | pam roxors | 11:33 |
| Burgundavia | a pam module to create teh home directory of login | 11:33 |
| Burgundavia | sbalneav was going to modify it to remove homedirs as well, but I don't know where that ended up | 11:34 |
| benplaut | seems kinda overkill | 11:34 |
| benplaut | since it wouldn't be over a network anyway | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | far cleaner solution that shell scripts, trust me | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | I actually work for a company that builds public computers for libraries and that is exactly how we do it | 11:35 |
| benplaut | ok | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | that shell scripting stuff looks like a giant hack to me | 11:36 |
| benplaut | public computers for libraries... pretty much what this is | 11:36 |
| benplaut | do you do smart client, or smart server? | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | you mean fat client or thin client? | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | we do a bit of everything | 11:37 |
| benplaut | cool | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | one user account per computer, with a shell script to delete upon logout and pam-mkhomdir | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | that is everything you need | 11:38 |
| benplaut | ok | 11:38 |
| Burgundavia | assuming, of course, you don't want to control time on the computers | 11:38 |
| benplaut | we do, but that shouldn't be too hard | 11:38 |
| Burgundavia | there is a tool called timeoutd already in the repos | 11:39 |
| Burgundavia | however, in order to effectively control time, you need personalized logins | 11:39 |
| benplaut | wait, not that | 11:39 |
| Burgundavia | otherwise there is nothing stopping a user from simply logging back in | 11:39 |
| benplaut | a timeout, i meant... inactive for 5min, log it out | 11:39 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 11:39 |
| benplaut | should be able to grab raw mouse output from /dev and do something with it | 11:40 |
| benplaut | when the data stops flowing, start a timer :P | 11:40 |
| Burgundavia | make certain you are checking both keyboard and mouse | 11:40 |
| benplaut | yea | 11:41 |
| benplaut | *typing long paper* | 11:41 |
| benplaut | noooo!! | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | it woudl be nice if somebody wrote something good enough to get into the repos | 11:41 |
| benplaut | yea | 11:41 |
| Burgundavia | also, I would throw a dialog up, rather than just logging them out | 11:41 |
| benplaut | oh course | 11:41 |
| benplaut | IIRC, zenity has a timer dialog | 11:42 |
| benplaut | therefore keeping me from the dark abyss of actual programming languages for yet another project | 11:42 |
| benplaut | Burgundavia, if you think those scripts were hacky, you should hear of my last one (along the same lines) | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 11:44 |
| benplaut | pop up 2 zenity dialogs asking for user and pass--savfe them to variables | 11:45 |
| benplaut | then, mount 3 samba shares and check for .home dirs on each of them. if they aren't there, make them | 11:45 |
| benplaut | finally, copy over a template /home and symlink mydocs from the samba share | 11:46 |
| benplaut | on logout, save bookmarks.html and /home/user/Documents to the share, then unmount and delete ~ | 11:46 |
| benplaut | all this to get 3 clients up for my school =/ | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 11:46 |
| benplaut | working around a power hungry admin in charge of a win2003 server, since I was too lazy to figure out samba's active directory implementation | 11:47 |
| Burgundavia | anyway, good night | 11:50 |
| benplaut | night | 11:51 |
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| ben123is | hello | 02:04 |
| ben123is | when i try to install edubuntu, it reaches a stage: select and install software , and then i get a red screen saying installation stage failed. anyone knows why? | 02:06 |
| ben123is | what to do? | 02:06 |
| ben123is | could it be because of a wrong input by me in the network installation? | 02:09 |
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| kgoetz | look on vertual console 4 (press alt+f4), and look at teh extended debug info | 02:09 |
| ben123is | ok | 02:12 |
| ben123is | rhanks | 02:12 |
| ben123is | thanks | 02:12 |
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| acoster | Hi, a friend of mine is trying to setup a school lab with edubuntu + FAI (automated installer). Does anyone have any pointers on that? | 02:17 |
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| rockprincess | hi all! | 03:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi rockprincess :) | 03:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | (hi bddebian ) | 03:18 |
| rockprincess | howdy Kamping_Kaiser :) what are you up to? | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Hello your Highness, Kamping_Kaiser :) | 03:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | bddebian, hehe | 03:18 |
| rockprincess | hi Bddebian ;) | 03:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, i did doco most of the arvo, then rebuilt my desktop just now (only logged backin 2 minutes ago) | 03:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | now tossing up wehter to help the community of have a break and watch some flicks | 03:19 |
| rockprincess | Kamping_Kaiser: ahh so it's all coming along well?!! ;) | 03:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | anyone else having issues connecting to sabdfls blog? | 03:20 |
| rockprincess | www.markshuttleworth.com ? | 03:20 |
| rockprincess | works for me ;) | 03:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | damn. then i have networking issues :| | 03:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | rockprincess, yeh, i think its coming along well. i'll tell myself that :) | 03:24 |
| rockprincess | Kamping_Kaiser: hehe how about recruiting the people there? | 03:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | recruiting? | 03:25 |
| rockprincess | hmm well, maybe i'm mixing things up lol | 03:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 03:31 |
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| skwashd | are there known issues with installing edubuntu under kvm ? | 05:51 |
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| jarhed | hello...could someone help me out with my ltsp setup?? | 05:52 |
| jarhed | anyone? | 06:00 |
| ogra | whats wrong ? | 06:04 |
| skwashd | ogra: well the ISO md5 is fine | 06:08 |
| skwashd | but when trying to install it says a stack of debs are corrupt (final) ... or it can't load the cd driver (beta) | 06:08 |
| ogra | how fast did you burn ? | 06:09 |
| cliebow | burned ttoo fast?? burn at 8 or lheh | 06:09 |
| ogra | note that compressed files like these shouldnt be burned faster than 8x | 06:09 |
| skwashd | ogra: it isn't burnt ... it is being used under kvm | 06:10 |
| ogra | sorry, i have no experiec with kvm ... i know it works in virtualbox and vmware ... | 06:11 |
| ogra | *experience | 06:11 |
| skwashd | hmmm ... virtualbox and kvm are both qemu derivatives | 06:11 |
| skwashd | oh well .. i might dig out an old PIII 2moro and try a real install | 06:13 |
| skwashd | but that will have to wait until 2moro | 06:13 |
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| peteface | ello all | 07:57 |
| peteface | im havin a very difficult time figuring somethin out can anyone help? | 07:57 |
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| cliebow_ | put it on the table here..someone may pipe | 07:59 |
| cliebow_ | a | 07:59 |
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| jarhed | how should special parameters be grouped in lts.conf: by hostname or MAC ? | 11:04 |
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