=== jinty [n=jinty@96.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@96.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@117-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@87.219.190.156] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.207] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.3.95] has joined #edubuntu === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=blah@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-231-8.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu === Lameiro [n=lameiro@c9539748.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === testingltsp [n=user@165.80.94.219.cbj02-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [05:48] dude, anybody here? [05:48] yep [05:49] Burgundavia: I've installed LTSP5 in Edubuntu [05:49] right [05:49] but I'm not able to login at the terminal side [05:49] always kick me back to the login screen [05:50] hmm [05:50] did u success in ltsp? [05:51] I don't use LTSP :) [05:51] boss won't let me [05:51] sob sob [05:51] sob sob sob === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.3.95] has joined #edubuntu [05:53] testingltsp: can you login on the server? [06:02] yes [06:03] i think something wrong with the SSH [06:03] all users can login to Server [06:03] i mean on server [06:04] I've tested on terminal with the text login, it is kicking me back to the login prompt too [06:05] investigated /var/log/auth, seeing the login in instant in * out [06:09] is there a SSH Script can make the server to allow all the Users to login remotely in Ubuntu? === Bhaskar1 [n=Bhaskar1@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu [06:15] anybody installed LTSP5? [06:23] can i migrate ubuntu 6.06 to edubuntu , Any idea? now i have ubuntu 6.06 [06:32] you can install edubuntu-desktop and if you need LTSP ltsp-server-standalone [06:33] LaserJock, ya, i want to get edubuntu without uninstall of ubuntu6.06 but how [06:34] LaserJock, edubuntu with LTSP === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.74] has joined #edubuntu [06:42] Bhaskar1: so you need to do what I said above [06:42] and then I think run ltsp-build-client [06:45] LaserJock, sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop [06:45] Reading package lists... Done [06:45] Building dependency tree... Done [06:45] E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop [06:46] LaserJock, now what to do? [06:46] do you have network? [06:47] LaserJock, ya [06:48] hmm, something must be messed up [06:48] can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me? [06:49] ok [06:55] LaserJock, for pastebin link? [06:56] I'm too noob to troubleshoot ssh remote login in ltsp, please advise what should i do pls [06:57] !pastebin [06:57] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [06:57] testingltsp: I realy don't know. I've never heard of that problem [06:57] u have done 7.04 + LTSP5? [06:57] testingltsp: you might want to email the edubuntu-users mailing list [06:57] testingltsp: nope [06:57] LaserJock: I've done previous version without this problem [06:58] testingltsp: the mailing list is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users [06:58] LaserJock: ok [06:58] it's an odd problem [06:59] LaserJock: maybe is new.... I've installed ubuntu7.04 + LTSP5 & edubuntu7.04+LTSP5, same problem [07:00] LaserJock: is the link correct? [07:01] LaserJock: correct [07:01] yeah [07:03] tiring with Microsoft cos is leeching lots of my $$$, wish to convert my internet center with edubuntu [07:03] the sound improvement in LTSP makes me excited [07:03] too bad still not able to test now [07:04] yeah [07:05] LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16971/ i have pasted sources.list [07:05] testingltsp, do you have sabayon installed? [07:06] I've tested before [07:06] slow [07:06] not sure about the new one [07:06] do you have it installed on the server your having problems with? [07:06] is sabayon works great with LTSP5? [07:06] never try LTSP5 with Sabayon [07:07] LTSP always works great with SuSE [07:07] i ask becaues unless you have users in groups (i forget what sabayon calls them - profiles?) they cant log in with sabayon installed [07:07] ohh [07:07] i saw this feature too [07:07] sabayon got a profile editor [07:07] i took about 16 hours trying, ogra fixed me in seconds (note this is dapper) [07:07] it may/may not be different on the latest versions [07:08] still prefer ubuntu + LTSP5 [07:09] anybody success to install ubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5? [07:09] havent tried. [07:10] i think i nid to reinstall cos got brokage in ltspfsd [07:10] Bhaskar1: ok, you've severly messed up your system there, you have no software repositories :-) [07:11] Bhaskarl: do u use sypnatic package manager? [07:11] Bhaskar1: you need to go into System->Administration->Software Sources [07:13] friends, see u 12 hours later, I'm trying to reinstall edubuntu 7.04 + ltsp5 without ltspsd, hear my good news soon, tata [07:20] LaserJock, System->Administration->Software Sources, there is no software sources, there is software properties [07:21] ok, that'll work [07:25] LaserJock, so now what to do ? [07:28] click on some software sources [07:33] LaserJock, software sources ?? [07:33] you should be able to select Main and Universe === testingltsp [n=user@165.80.94.219.cbj02-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [07:35] haha reinstallation of edubuntu takes only 15 minutes [07:36] LaserJock, i have no software sources on System-->Administration---> [07:37] Bhaskar1: you should have Software Properties though, right? [07:38] LaserJock, ya === kgoetz_ [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:39] Bhaskar1: that's what you want === kgoetz_ is now known as kgoetz [07:39] LaserJock, so what to do === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [07:40] Bhaskar1: well you should see some tabs === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [07:40] on the first one there should be some options [07:41] LaserJock, install media,internet update and Authentication [07:42] on the first tab you should find an option for Main and Universe [07:43] LaserJock, no first tab is install media, [07:43] fine [07:44] but do you see checkboxes for Main and Universe? [07:44] there is add--> [07:44] then components] [07:45] ok, components sounds right [07:45] community maintain,Non-free etc are there [07:45] ok [07:45] you want commnity maintained [07:45] officially supported also there [07:46] yes, you want that one as well [07:46] so which check box is right === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-201-191.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:46] I think you can just do all the ones there [07:46] officialy supported, community supported, non-free, and restricted [07:47] ok [07:47] then [07:47] and in channel? [07:49] hmm, what's in there? [07:52] there is ubuntu 6.06 update, backports, etc [07:52] you'll want updates and security [07:52] ok [07:53] further ..? [07:54] I think that'll do it for now [07:54] you should be able to sudo apt-get update [07:54] and then install/upgrade [07:57] ya, ran apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, then error is :Reading package lists... Done [07:58] Building dependency tree... Done [07:58] E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop [08:01] Bhaskar1: did you run sudo apt-get update first? [08:06] ya [08:06] sudo apt-get update [08:06] Reading package lists... Done [08:07] can you paste the /etc/apt/sources.list [08:08] ok [08:11] LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16978/ [08:18] Bhaskar1: for some reason you still don't have any software repos [08:19] LaserJock, so what is the solution to proceed [08:33] ok [08:34] run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [08:35] and put in the following lines [08:35] deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe [08:35] deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe [08:35] deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe [08:35] except you might want to change the us.archive part to just archive if you aren't in the US [08:37] then save it and run sudo apt-get update [08:37] anyone know what that ubuntu AD replacement project was? i cant for the life of me think of keywords to search it === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-231-8.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [09:03] LaserJock, it is working [09:04] sudo apt-get update is working [09:04] edgy used to work to display to my tv with my ati card, but upgrade to feisty, tv only displays wavy lines, any idea how I can fix it, at least some of the settings are still in my xorg.conf, maybe all, but I'm not sure if it's an xorg problem or something else === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-240-84-05.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:20] Bhaskar1: good to hear [09:20] Bhaskar1: I'm off to bed now, hope it works out for you === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [09:34] Laser_away, ok === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [09:58] can someone tell me if they have the file: /usr/include/xorg/xf86drm.h === testingltsp [n=user@165.80.94.219.cbj02-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] anybody tried edubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5? === Bhaskar1 [n=Bhaskar1@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Adu"] === benplaut [n=benplaut@unaffiliated/benplaut] has joined #edubuntu [11:12] I've got a bit of a dream situation--somewhat of an open budget, open for ideas for a new school lab of ~8-10 clients [11:12] hi benplaut [11:12] hi benplaut [11:13] benplaut, you only need clients or also a server? [11:13] i'm thinking of an edubuntu LTSP server and some thin clients from a big name (hp?), but i'm wondering... is edubuntu appropriate for high school, or will the geeks still be able to screw around with it? [11:13] hola folks [11:13] starting from complete scratch, with a pretty much open budget [11:14] nto so much geeks screwing with it, problems more 'childish' nature of edubuntu (unless fiesty is much less that way) [11:14] ok [11:15] also, this would have to be pretty much self-sustaining... i can set it up, but i'd be too far away to admin it on a regular basis [11:15] then hope they never get different students ;), or it wont manage itself [11:15] ok... exception for that ;) [11:16] if it's simple enough for the librarian to add users, then OK :P [11:16] hm. with suitable training probably. [11:16] is it through the gnome users dialog? [11:18] that or adduser via cli. i suspect you want the librarian going via gnome ui yeh [11:18] ok [11:18] myself (if i was doign ltsp for a highschool) i'd go with 'proper' ubuntu+ltsp [11:18] could set up something with zenity if needed, too [11:18] rather then edubuntu [11:18] ok [11:20] right now (with 7 XP boxen), they're using a software called 'deep freeze' that restores to an image after a certain amount of inactivity... i suppose that wouldn't work too well in this case since you couldn't have multiple logins from the same general student acccount [11:25] not sure, but afaik you can do the same thing if you want === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:25] yea, i dunno [11:25] not sure how you would set it up though [11:25] scripts to rm ~, then copy in a template each time it restarts [11:25] maybe =/ [11:26] ultimately, the students in this school have no use for a user account of their own, and to keep it consistent with the other computers, something like that would have to be in place [11:26] when it boots you use a kernel image that pulls the whole system over the network fresh and boots it, rather then just the boot image, but the details i dunno [11:26] it can be done, but would take some work [11:27] yup [11:28] i guess you could set up one user account for each computer, autologin to it, then have some shell scripts doing to work [11:28] *the work [11:29] hm. doesnt sound pretty [11:30] nope [11:30] if you need scripts run, do them on bootup (as init) [11:30] yea [11:31] http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Deepfreeze_for_Linux [11:32] looks like somebody has already done it [11:32] in about 20 lines of bash :P [11:32] actually, it is simpler than that [11:32] log them in as regular users [11:33] then nuke the home dir on logout [11:33] and use pam-mkhomedir on login [11:33] pam-mkhomedir? [11:33] pam roxors [11:33] a pam module to create teh home directory of login [11:34] sbalneav was going to modify it to remove homedirs as well, but I don't know where that ended up [11:34] seems kinda overkill [11:34] since it wouldn't be over a network anyway [11:34] far cleaner solution that shell scripts, trust me [11:35] I actually work for a company that builds public computers for libraries and that is exactly how we do it [11:36] ok [11:36] that shell scripting stuff looks like a giant hack to me [11:36] public computers for libraries... pretty much what this is [11:36] do you do smart client, or smart server? [11:37] you mean fat client or thin client? [11:37] we do a bit of everything [11:37] cool [11:37] one user account per computer, with a shell script to delete upon logout and pam-mkhomdir [11:38] that is everything you need [11:38] ok [11:38] assuming, of course, you don't want to control time on the computers [11:38] we do, but that shouldn't be too hard [11:39] there is a tool called timeoutd already in the repos [11:39] however, in order to effectively control time, you need personalized logins [11:39] wait, not that [11:39] otherwise there is nothing stopping a user from simply logging back in [11:39] a timeout, i meant... inactive for 5min, log it out [11:39] ahh [11:40] should be able to grab raw mouse output from /dev and do something with it [11:40] when the data stops flowing, start a timer :P [11:40] make certain you are checking both keyboard and mouse [11:41] yea [11:41] *typing long paper* [11:41] noooo!! [11:41] it woudl be nice if somebody wrote something good enough to get into the repos [11:41] yea [11:41] also, I would throw a dialog up, rather than just logging them out [11:41] oh course [11:42] IIRC, zenity has a timer dialog [11:42] therefore keeping me from the dark abyss of actual programming languages for yet another project [11:44] Burgundavia, if you think those scripts were hacky, you should hear of my last one (along the same lines) [11:44] ouch [11:45] pop up 2 zenity dialogs asking for user and pass--savfe them to variables [11:45] then, mount 3 samba shares and check for .home dirs on each of them. if they aren't there, make them [11:46] finally, copy over a template /home and symlink mydocs from the samba share [11:46] on logout, save bookmarks.html and /home/user/Documents to the share, then unmount and delete ~ [11:46] all this to get 3 clients up for my school =/ [11:46] ouch [11:47] working around a power hungry admin in charge of a win2003 server, since I was too lazy to figure out samba's active directory implementation [11:50] anyway, good night [11:51] night === benplaut [n=benplaut@unaffiliated/benplaut] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@87.217.235.93] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=martin@p508b1b53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@87.217.235.93] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === ben123is [n=chatzill@212.150.114.161] has joined #edubuntu [02:04] hello [02:06] when i try to install edubuntu, it reaches a stage: select and install software , and then i get a red screen saying installation stage failed. anyone knows why? [02:06] what to do? [02:09] could it be because of a wrong input by me in the network installation? === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-59-82-252-149-135.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] look on vertual console 4 (press alt+f4), and look at teh extended debug info [02:12] ok [02:12] rhanks [02:12] thanks === acoster [n=acoster@unaffiliated/acoster] has joined #edubuntu [02:17] Hi, a friend of mine is trying to setup a school lab with edubuntu + FAI (automated installer). Does anyone have any pointers on that? === pauljw [n=paul@pool130.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] hi all! [03:17] hi rockprincess :) [03:18] (hi bddebian ) [03:18] howdy Kamping_Kaiser :) what are you up to? [03:18] Hello your Highness, Kamping_Kaiser :) [03:18] bddebian, hehe [03:18] hi Bddebian ;) [03:19] rockprincess, i did doco most of the arvo, then rebuilt my desktop just now (only logged backin 2 minutes ago) [03:19] now tossing up wehter to help the community of have a break and watch some flicks [03:20] Kamping_Kaiser: ahh so it's all coming along well?!! ;) [03:20] anyone else having issues connecting to sabdfls blog? [03:20] www.markshuttleworth.com ? [03:20] works for me ;) [03:24] damn. then i have networking issues :| [03:24] rockprincess, yeh, i think its coming along well. i'll tell myself that :) [03:25] Kamping_Kaiser: hehe how about recruiting the people there? [03:25] recruiting? [03:28] hmm well, maybe i'm mixing things up lol [03:31] lol. === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #edubuntu === nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #edubuntu === nalioth_ is now known as nalioth === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === skwashd [n=skwashd@phpgroupware/skwashd] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] are there known issues with installing edubuntu under kvm ? === jarhed [n=hgc@66.226.56.132] has joined #edubuntu [05:52] hello...could someone help me out with my ltsp setup?? [06:00] anyone? [06:04] whats wrong ? [06:08] ogra: well the ISO md5 is fine [06:08] but when trying to install it says a stack of debs are corrupt (final) ... or it can't load the cd driver (beta) [06:09] how fast did you burn ? [06:09] burned ttoo fast?? burn at 8 or lheh [06:09] note that compressed files like these shouldnt be burned faster than 8x [06:10] ogra: it isn't burnt ... it is being used under kvm [06:11] sorry, i have no experiec with kvm ... i know it works in virtualbox and vmware ... [06:11] *experience [06:11] hmmm ... virtualbox and kvm are both qemu derivatives [06:13] oh well .. i might dig out an old PIII 2moro and try a real install [06:13] but that will have to wait until 2moro === skwashd [n=skwashd@phpgroupware/skwashd] has left #edubuntu ["tia"] === georgetam [n=georgeta@193.93.142.2] has joined #edubuntu === ppplll [n=ppplll@85.75.169.194] has joined #edubuntu === ppplll [n=ppplll@85.75.169.194] has left #edubuntu [] === HedgeMage [i=blah@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === georgetam [n=georgeta@193.93.142.2] has left #edubuntu [] === pauljw [n=paul@pool192.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === peteface [n=peter@c-76-16-32-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:57] ello all [07:57] im havin a very difficult time figuring somethin out can anyone help? === peteface [n=peter@c-76-16-32-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] [07:59] put it on the table here..someone may pipe [07:59] a === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === gladk2 [n=gladk2@IAM92.iam.tu-freiberg.de] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.202] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === gladk2 [n=gladk2@IAM92.iam.tu-freiberg.de] has left #edubuntu [] === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-154-113-124.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === arualavi [n=Iva@117.Red-83-33-7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Adu"] === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-154-113-124.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=martin@p508b1b53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu [11:04] how should special parameters be grouped in lts.conf: by hostname or MAC ? === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === creadorcreativo [n=paranoia@164.77.49.117] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === creadorcreativo [n=paranoia@164.77.49.117] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu