[05:48] <testingltsp> dude, anybody here?
[05:48] <Burgundavia> yep
[05:49] <testingltsp> Burgundavia: I've installed LTSP5 in Edubuntu
[05:49] <Burgundavia> right
[05:49] <testingltsp> but I'm not able to login at the terminal side
[05:49] <testingltsp> always kick me back to the login screen
[05:50] <Burgundavia> hmm
[05:50] <testingltsp> did u success in ltsp?
[05:51] <Burgundavia> I don't use LTSP :)
[05:51] <Burgundavia> boss won't let me
[05:51] <testingltsp> sob sob
[05:51] <testingltsp> sob sob sob
[05:53] <LaserJock> testingltsp: can you login on the server?
[06:02] <testingltsp> yes
[06:03] <testingltsp> i think something wrong with the SSH
[06:03] <testingltsp> all users can login to Server
[06:03] <testingltsp> i mean on server
[06:04] <testingltsp> I've tested on terminal with the text login, it is kicking me back to the login prompt too
[06:05] <testingltsp> investigated /var/log/auth, seeing the login in instant in * out
[06:09] <testingltsp> is there a SSH Script can make the server to allow all the Users to login remotely in Ubuntu?
[06:15] <testingltsp> anybody installed LTSP5?
[06:23] <Bhaskar1> can i migrate ubuntu 6.06 to edubuntu , Any idea? now i have ubuntu 6.06
[06:32] <LaserJock> you can install edubuntu-desktop and if you need LTSP ltsp-server-standalone
[06:33] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, ya, i want to get edubuntu without uninstall of ubuntu6.06 but how
[06:34] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, edubuntu with LTSP
[06:42] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: so you need to do what I said above
[06:42] <LaserJock> and then I think run ltsp-build-client
[06:45] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[06:45] <Bhaskar1> Reading package lists... Done
[06:45] <Bhaskar1> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:45] <Bhaskar1> E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, now what to do?
[06:46] <LaserJock> do you have network?
[06:47] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, ya
[06:48] <LaserJock> hmm, something must be messed up
[06:48] <LaserJock> can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list for me?
[06:49] <Bhaskar1> ok
[06:55] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, for pastebin link?
[06:56] <testingltsp> I'm too noob to troubleshoot ssh remote login in ltsp, please advise what should i do pls
[06:57] <LaserJock> !pastebin
[06:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:57] <LaserJock> testingltsp: I realy don't know. I've never heard of that problem
[06:57] <testingltsp> u have done 7.04 + LTSP5?
[06:57] <LaserJock> testingltsp: you might want to email the edubuntu-users mailing list
[06:57] <LaserJock> testingltsp: nope
[06:57] <testingltsp> LaserJock: I've done previous version without this problem
[06:58] <LaserJock> testingltsp: the mailing list is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
[06:58] <testingltsp> LaserJock: ok
[06:58] <LaserJock> it's an odd problem
[06:59] <testingltsp> LaserJock: maybe is new.... I've installed ubuntu7.04 + LTSP5 & edubuntu7.04+LTSP5, same problem
[07:00] <testingltsp> LaserJock: is the link correct?
[07:01] <testingltsp> LaserJock: correct
[07:01] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:03] <testingltsp> tiring with Microsoft cos is leeching lots of my $$$, wish to convert my internet center with edubuntu
[07:03] <testingltsp> the sound improvement in LTSP makes me excited
[07:03] <testingltsp> too bad still not able to test now
[07:04] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:05] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16971/ i have pasted sources.list
[07:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> testingltsp, do you have sabayon installed?
[07:06] <testingltsp> I've tested before
[07:06] <testingltsp> slow
[07:06] <testingltsp> not sure about the new one
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have it installed on the server your having problems with?
[07:06] <testingltsp> is sabayon works great with LTSP5?
[07:06] <testingltsp> never try LTSP5 with Sabayon
[07:07] <testingltsp> LTSP always works great with SuSE
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i ask becaues unless you have users in groups (i forget what sabayon calls them - profiles?) they cant log in with sabayon installed
[07:07] <testingltsp> ohh
[07:07] <testingltsp> i saw this feature too
[07:07] <testingltsp> sabayon got a profile editor
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i took about 16 hours trying, ogra fixed me in seconds (note this is dapper)
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> it may/may not be different on the latest versions
[07:08] <testingltsp> still prefer ubuntu + LTSP5
[07:09] <testingltsp> anybody success to install ubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5?
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> havent tried.
[07:10] <testingltsp> i think i nid to reinstall cos got brokage in ltspfsd
[07:10] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: ok, you've severly messed up your system there, you have no software repositories :-)
[07:11] <testingltsp> Bhaskarl: do u use sypnatic package manager?
[07:11] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: you need to go into System->Administration->Software Sources
[07:13] <testingltsp> friends, see u 12 hours later, I'm trying to reinstall edubuntu 7.04 + ltsp5 without ltspsd, hear my good news soon, tata
[07:20] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, System->Administration->Software Sources, there is no software sources, there is software properties
[07:21] <LaserJock> ok, that'll work
[07:25] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, so now what to do ?
[07:28] <LaserJock> click on some software sources
[07:33] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, software sources ??
[07:33] <LaserJock> you should be able to select Main and Universe
[07:35] <testingltsp> haha reinstallation of edubuntu takes only 15 minutes
[07:36] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, i have no software sources on System-->Administration--->
[07:37] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: you should have Software Properties though, right?
[07:38] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, ya
[07:39] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: that's what you want
[07:39] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, so what to do
[07:40] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: well you should see some tabs
[07:40] <LaserJock> on the first one there should be some options
[07:41] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, install media,internet update and Authentication
[07:42] <LaserJock> on the first tab you should find an option for Main and Universe
[07:43] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, no first tab is install media,
[07:43] <LaserJock> fine
[07:44] <LaserJock> but do you see checkboxes for Main and Universe?
[07:44] <Bhaskar1> there is add-->
[07:44] <Bhaskar1> then components] 
[07:45] <LaserJock> ok, components sounds right
[07:45] <Bhaskar1> community maintain,Non-free etc are there
[07:45] <LaserJock> ok
[07:45] <LaserJock> you want commnity maintained
[07:45] <Bhaskar1> officially supported also there
[07:46] <LaserJock> yes, you want that one as well
[07:46] <Bhaskar1> so which check box is right
[07:46] <LaserJock> I think you can just do all the ones there
[07:46] <LaserJock> officialy supported, community supported, non-free, and restricted
[07:47] <Bhaskar1> ok
[07:47] <Bhaskar1> then
[07:47] <Bhaskar1> and in channel?
[07:49] <LaserJock> hmm, what's in there?
[07:52] <Bhaskar1> there is ubuntu 6.06 update, backports, etc
[07:52] <LaserJock> you'll want updates and security
[07:52] <Bhaskar1> ok
[07:53] <Bhaskar1> further ..?
[07:54] <LaserJock> I think that'll do it for now
[07:54] <LaserJock> you should be able to sudo apt-get update
[07:54] <LaserJock> and then install/upgrade
[07:57] <Bhaskar1> ya, ran apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, then error is :Reading package lists... Done
[07:58] <Bhaskar1> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:58] <Bhaskar1> E: Couldn't find package edubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: did you run sudo apt-get update first?
[08:06] <Bhaskar1> ya
[08:06] <Bhaskar1>  sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <Bhaskar1> Reading package lists... Done
[08:07] <LaserJock> can you paste the /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <Bhaskar1> ok
[08:11] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16978/
[08:18] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: for some reason you still don't have any software repos
[08:19] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, so what is the solution to proceed
[08:33] <LaserJock> ok
[08:34] <LaserJock> run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:35] <LaserJock> and put in the following lines
[08:35] <LaserJock> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe
[08:35] <LaserJock> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe
[08:35] <LaserJock> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe
[08:35] <LaserJock> except you might want to change the us.archive part to just archive if you aren't in the US
[08:37] <LaserJock> then save it and run sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <kgoetz> anyone know what that ubuntu AD replacement project was? i cant for the life of me think of keywords to search it
[09:03] <Bhaskar1> LaserJock, it is working
[09:04] <Bhaskar1> sudo apt-get update is working
[09:04] <Meshezabeel> edgy used to work to display to my tv with my ati card, but upgrade to feisty, tv only displays wavy lines, any idea how I can fix it, at least some of the settings are still in my xorg.conf, maybe all, but I'm not sure if it's an xorg problem or something else
[09:20] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: good to hear
[09:20] <LaserJock> Bhaskar1: I'm off to bed now, hope it works out for you
[09:34] <Bhaskar1> Laser_away, ok
[09:58] <Meshezabeel> can someone tell me if they have the file: /usr/include/xorg/xf86drm.h
[10:21] <testingltsp> anybody tried edubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5?
[11:12] <benplaut> I've got a bit of a dream situation--somewhat of an open budget, open for ideas for a new school lab of ~8-10 clients
[11:12] <juliux> hi benplaut
[11:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi benplaut
[11:13] <juliux> benplaut, you only need clients or also a server?
[11:13] <benplaut> i'm thinking of an edubuntu LTSP server and some thin clients from a big name (hp?), but i'm wondering... is edubuntu appropriate for high school, or will the geeks still be able to screw around with it?
[11:13] <benplaut> hola folks
[11:13] <benplaut> starting from complete scratch, with a pretty much open budget
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> nto so much geeks screwing with it, problems more 'childish' nature of edubuntu (unless fiesty is much less that way)
[11:14] <benplaut> ok
[11:15] <benplaut> also, this would have to be pretty much self-sustaining... i can set it up, but i'd be too far away to admin it on a regular basis
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> then hope they never get different students ;), or it wont manage itself
[11:15] <benplaut> ok... exception for that ;)
[11:16] <benplaut> if it's simple enough for the librarian to add users, then OK :P
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. with suitable training probably.
[11:16] <benplaut> is it through the gnome users dialog?
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> that or adduser via cli. i suspect you want the librarian going via gnome ui yeh
[11:18] <benplaut> ok
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> myself (if i was doign ltsp for a highschool) i'd go with 'proper' ubuntu+ltsp
[11:18] <benplaut> could set up something with zenity if needed, too
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> rather then edubuntu
[11:18] <benplaut> ok
[11:20] <benplaut> right now (with 7 XP boxen), they're using a software called 'deep freeze' that restores to an image after a certain amount of inactivity... i suppose that wouldn't work too well in this case since you couldn't have multiple logins from the same general student acccount
[11:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure, but afaik you can do the same  thing if you want
[11:25] <benplaut> yea, i dunno
[11:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure how you would set it up though
[11:25] <benplaut> scripts to rm ~, then copy in a template each time it restarts
[11:25] <benplaut> maybe =/
[11:26] <benplaut> ultimately, the students in this school have no use for a user account of their own, and to keep it consistent with the other computers, something like that would have to be in place
[11:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> when it boots you use a kernel image that pulls the whole system over the network fresh and boots it, rather then just the boot image, but the details i dunno
[11:26] <benplaut> it can be done, but would take some work
[11:27] <benplaut> yup
[11:28] <benplaut> i guess you could set up one user account for each computer, autologin to it, then have some shell scripts doing to work
[11:28] <benplaut> *the work
[11:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. doesnt sound pretty
[11:30] <benplaut> nope
[11:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you need scripts run, do them on bootup (as init)
[11:30] <benplaut> yea
[11:31] <benplaut> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Deepfreeze_for_Linux
[11:32] <benplaut> looks like somebody has already done it
[11:32] <benplaut> in about 20 lines of bash :P
[11:32] <Burgundavia> actually, it is simpler than that
[11:32] <Burgundavia> log them in as regular users
[11:33] <Burgundavia> then nuke the home dir on logout
[11:33] <Burgundavia> and use pam-mkhomedir on login
[11:33] <benplaut> pam-mkhomedir?
[11:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> pam roxors
[11:33] <Burgundavia> a pam module to create teh home directory of login
[11:34] <Burgundavia> sbalneav was going to modify it to remove homedirs as well, but I don't know where that ended up
[11:34] <benplaut> seems kinda overkill
[11:34] <benplaut> since it wouldn't be over a network anyway
[11:34] <Burgundavia> far cleaner solution that shell scripts, trust me
[11:35] <Burgundavia> I actually work for a company that builds public computers for libraries and that is exactly how we do it
[11:36] <benplaut> ok
[11:36] <Burgundavia> that shell scripting stuff looks like a giant hack to me
[11:36] <benplaut> public computers for libraries... pretty much what this is
[11:36] <benplaut> do you do smart client, or smart server?
[11:37] <Burgundavia> you mean fat client or thin client?
[11:37] <Burgundavia> we do a bit of everything
[11:37] <benplaut> cool
[11:37] <Burgundavia> one user account per computer, with a shell script to delete upon logout and pam-mkhomdir
[11:38] <Burgundavia> that is everything you need
[11:38] <benplaut> ok
[11:38] <Burgundavia> assuming, of course, you don't want to control time on the computers
[11:38] <benplaut> we do, but that shouldn't be too hard
[11:39] <Burgundavia> there is a tool called timeoutd already in the repos
[11:39] <Burgundavia> however, in order to effectively control time, you need personalized logins
[11:39] <benplaut> wait, not that
[11:39] <Burgundavia> otherwise there is nothing stopping a user from simply logging back in
[11:39] <benplaut> a timeout, i meant... inactive for 5min, log it out
[11:39] <Burgundavia> ahh
[11:40] <benplaut> should be able to grab raw mouse output from /dev and do something with it
[11:40] <benplaut> when the data stops flowing, start a timer :P
[11:40] <Burgundavia> make certain you are checking both keyboard and mouse
[11:41] <benplaut> yea
[11:41] <benplaut> *typing long paper*
[11:41] <benplaut> noooo!!
[11:41] <Burgundavia> it woudl be nice if somebody wrote something good enough to get into the repos
[11:41] <benplaut> yea
[11:41] <Burgundavia> also, I would throw a dialog up, rather than just logging them out
[11:41] <benplaut> oh course
[11:42] <benplaut> IIRC, zenity has a timer dialog
[11:42] <benplaut> therefore keeping me from the dark abyss of actual programming languages for yet another project
[11:44] <benplaut> Burgundavia, if you think those scripts were hacky, you should hear of my last one (along the same lines)
[11:44] <Burgundavia> ouch
[11:45] <benplaut> pop up 2 zenity dialogs asking for user and pass--savfe them to variables
[11:45] <benplaut> then, mount 3 samba shares and check for .home dirs on each of them.  if they aren't there, make them
[11:46] <benplaut> finally, copy over a template /home and symlink mydocs from the samba share
[11:46] <benplaut> on logout, save bookmarks.html and /home/user/Documents to the share, then unmount and delete ~
[11:46] <benplaut> all this to get 3 clients up for my school =/
[11:46] <Burgundavia> ouch
[11:47] <benplaut> working around a power hungry admin in charge of a win2003 server, since I was too lazy to figure out samba's active directory implementation
[11:50] <Burgundavia> anyway, good night
[11:51] <benplaut> night
[02:04] <ben123is> hello
[02:06] <ben123is> when i try to install edubuntu, it reaches a stage: select and install software , and then i get a red screen saying installation stage failed. anyone knows why?
[02:06] <ben123is> what to do?
[02:09] <ben123is> could it be because of a wrong input by me in the network installation?
[02:09] <kgoetz> look on vertual console 4 (press alt+f4), and look at teh extended debug info
[02:12] <ben123is> ok
[02:12] <ben123is> rhanks
[02:12] <ben123is> thanks
[02:17] <acoster> Hi, a friend of mine is trying to setup a school lab with edubuntu + FAI (automated installer). Does anyone have any pointers on that?
[03:17] <rockprincess> hi all!
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi rockprincess :)
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> (hi bddebian )
[03:18] <rockprincess> howdy Kamping_Kaiser :) what are you up to?
[03:18] <bddebian> Hello your Highness, Kamping_Kaiser :)
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> bddebian, hehe
[03:18] <rockprincess> hi Bddebian ;)
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, i did doco most of the arvo, then rebuilt my desktop just now (only logged backin 2 minutes ago)
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> now tossing up wehter to help the community of have a break and watch some flicks
[03:20] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: ahh so it's all coming along well?!! ;)
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone else having issues connecting to sabdfls blog?
[03:20] <rockprincess> www.markshuttleworth.com ?
[03:20] <rockprincess> works for me ;)
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn. then i have networking issues :|
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, yeh, i think its coming along well. i'll tell myself that :)
[03:25] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: hehe how about recruiting the people there?
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> recruiting?
[03:28] <rockprincess> hmm well, maybe i'm mixing things up lol
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[05:51] <skwashd> are there known issues with installing edubuntu under kvm ?
[05:52] <jarhed> hello...could someone help me out with my ltsp setup??
[06:00] <jarhed> anyone?
[06:04] <ogra> whats wrong ?
[06:08] <skwashd> ogra: well the ISO md5 is fine
[06:08] <skwashd> but when trying to install it says a stack of debs are corrupt (final) ... or it can't load the cd driver (beta)
[06:09] <ogra> how fast did you burn ?
[06:09] <cliebow>   burned ttoo fast?? burn at 8 or lheh
[06:09] <ogra> note that compressed files like these shouldnt be burned faster than 8x
[06:10] <skwashd> ogra: it isn't burnt ... it is being used under kvm
[06:11] <ogra> sorry, i have no experiec with kvm ... i know it works in virtualbox and vmware ...
[06:11] <ogra> *experience
[06:11] <skwashd> hmmm ... virtualbox and kvm are both qemu derivatives
[06:13] <skwashd> oh well .. i might dig out an old PIII 2moro and try a real install
[06:13] <skwashd> but that will have to wait until 2moro
[07:57] <peteface> ello all
[07:57] <peteface> im havin a very difficult time figuring somethin out can anyone help?
[07:59] <cliebow_> put it on the table here..someone may pipe
[07:59] <cliebow_> a
[11:04] <jarhed> how should special parameters be grouped in lts.conf: by hostname or MAC ?