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hyperspaceis there a MOTU team for kubuntu?12:27
hyperspacehmm.. guess i'll check later when kubuntu wiki is more responsive12:31
yuriyhyperspace: i don't think there's a separate team12:32
hyperspaceah cool :)12:32
hyperspacei wanna help out!12:32
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hyperspacenever stuck w/ a distro this long, @ both work and office12:34
hyperspacei mean home and office12:34
hyperspacelol12:34
Riddellhyperspace: no separate team, MOTU for kubuntu is spread accross kubuntu developer places like this and motu places list #ubuntu-motu12:46
hyperspaceyea12:47
hyperspacejust hopped into #ubuntu-motu12:47
hyperspacethanks for the info12:47
hyperspace:)12:47
Riddellhyperspace: I can't think have anything specific needing done today, but if you find something that needs packaged we're happy to help when you get stuck12:48
hyperspaceyea checking out the packaging tutorials right now12:49
hyperspacegonna run up to office and grab my notebook adept hung before i left, had to restart dist-upgrade via ssh and stuff... i fear a reinstall lol12:49
Riddellplenty of bugs needing triaged of course :)12:50
hyperspaceyea im definately into helping12:50
hyperspaceuse it on multiple machines @ work and home12:50
hyperspacefor over a year stuck w/ kubuntu12:50
hyperspaceits beautiful12:50
hyperspacetherefore, i must help!12:51
hyperspaceuse it on big servers @ work too (ubuntu-server)12:51
Riddellonce gusty opens there will be plenty of merging work to do12:52
Riddellnew versions of everything12:52
hyperspacelooking forward to learning the process12:53
Tm_T:)12:53
hyperspaceive also taught a few people how to use linux via kubuntu12:53
hyperspacethat i work w/12:53
Riddellexcellent12:54
hyperspacebbiab12:54
Tm_TRiddell: sladen was real "star" in our party :)01:02
Tm_Tfun day :)01:02
RiddellTm_T: oh thank goodness, he got out of russia before his visa ran out :)01:05
Tm_T=)01:05
Tm_Tand we had sauna and all :=01:06
Tm_T:)01:06
Tm_Tok, time to get some sleep. good night folks and big thanks for Feisty <301:13
hyperspacekiller! notebook updated properly :)01:34
hyperspaceeven w/ killing adept and restarting a few times with bunk /etc/resolv.conf from the notebook randomly hopping onto a wireless ap then loosing connection lol01:34
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hyperspacehttp://wizardsleeve.com/tb0x.png :)01:35
nixternalhaha, Riddell still calling it gusty, the flatulent monkey01:42
nixternalRiddell: did you get that link to Edgy and Feisty doc updates?01:42
Riddellnixternal: I did yes, not sure when I'll get to it (monday at the latest)02:01
nixternalthat's cool, they are done, and they build fast. docbook-xml wasn't a dep for some reason02:02
nixternalin Dapper, Edgy, and Feisty it was missing02:02
nixternalso pbuilder only takes a little over 20 minutes now to build02:03
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Riddellgroovy, thanks for that02:08
nixternalno problem, anytime! now go and enjoy the weekend02:11
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ryanakcain firefox, feisty, kubuntu wiki theme, is the top bar/kubuntu logo not displaying properly for anybody else? (This page is continuously being improperly displayed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom )04:55
Hobbseeryanakca: define not properly?04:59
Hobbseeie, screenshot?04:59
ryanakcayeah05:00
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ryanakcahmm... seems to be taking an eternity to load05:04
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ryanakcaHobbsee: http://blog.ryanak.ca/wiki.png05:11
Hobbseeryanakca: mine doesnt even appear to be blue at the moment - seems to be running hte ubuntu theme05:12
ryanakcahmm... do you have it set in your preferences to the kubuntu theme?05:12
ryanakcaanywais, I'm heading to bed, cheers05:29
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Hobbseeryanakca: i confirm that, now that it's loaded06:44
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alleezakame: could you add an ICQ account?  I've tried with a fresh user too. Didn't work09:49
giangy'morning09:56
Hobbseehi giangy09:57
fdovingmorning all.09:57
fdovinggoogle is amazing.09:57
Hobbseeoh?09:57
fdovingit's a calculator too!09:57
fdovinghttp://www.google.no/search?q=1680x1050%2B1440%2B0&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-809:57
fdovingtrying to search for a resolution, and it returns 1 765 44009:58
Hobbseenice :)09:58
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Hobbseegiangy: wouldnt bother yet10:00
Hobbseegiangy: wait till the toolchain is done, at least10:00
fdovingso xrandr 1.2 is cool.10:00
giangyHobbsee: heh, at the moment I see only binutils10:02
giangybtw, I'm using it in some testing-boxes, so it isn't a problem :-)10:02
Hobbsee:)10:14
freeflyingRiddell: around?10:15
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MidMarkhello12:05
MidMarkis there a bug report for the problem that in Feisty I cannot install more than 1 debian package with right click->kubuntu menu->install?12:05
fdovingyou can't?12:09
fdovingah.. you mean select more than one and install?12:09
=== fdoving tests.
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MidMarkexactly12:13
MidMarkbroken in Feisty12:13
MidMarkthat is particular annoying if you have dependencing12:13
fdovingis that broken in edgy too12:18
fdoving?12:18
fdovingor is it a regression in feisty?12:18
MidMarkit's a regression12:21
MidMarkin Edgy works perfectly12:21
fdovingok. i know what did it.12:21
fdovinganother bug was fixed.12:21
fdovingthe fix introduces this.12:21
fdovingwant a local fix?12:21
MidMarkif you have temporary :)12:21
fdovingopen /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop12:22
fdovingin a editor, with root permissions.12:22
fdovingfind:12:22
fdovingExec=xterm -title "%c" -e 'sudo dpkg -i "%U"; echo "Press <enter> to exit..."; read;'12:22
fdovingchange dpkg -i "%U"  to dpkg -i %U12:22
fdovingsave and exit.12:22
fdovingtest.12:22
MidMarkdone12:23
MidMarktesting12:23
MidMarkworks thanx, bug report?12:24
fdovingyes, please report it.12:24
MidMarkI've searched for duplicates but cannot find it12:25
MidMarkagainst kubuntu-default-settings?12:25
fdovingyes.12:26
fdovingnote that with this fix, paths with spaces does not work.12:27
fdovingi'll try to come up with something smarter.12:27
fdovingyou can subscribe me to the bugreport too. frode@lnix.net12:28
MidMarkconfirmed, path with spaces doesn't work, is this the bug fixed that make the regression?12:31
fdovingyes.12:31
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MidMarkdone bug #10887012:36
fdovingthanks.12:36
ubotuMalone bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression]  install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10887012:36
MidMarkwhy without "" spaces doesn't work?12:39
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marseillaihi12:50
marseillaifdoving: do you have some time ? :$12:50
fdovingmarseillai: yes.12:51
marseillaifdoving: since 3 days i'm trying to make a cdbs package of manslide, and i'm totally failing! my package is always empty12:51
fdovingMidMark: you around for some testing in some minutes?12:51
MidMarkfdoving: for sure12:51
fdovingmarseillai: ok. can you put your package source online somewhere so i can download?12:51
fdovingMidMark: i'll ping you when i have something then. :)12:52
marseillaifdoving: yes no problem : ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/manslide.tar.gz12:52
MidMarkfdoving: ok go to eat be stay online, just ping me with something and I will test12:54
fdovingMidMark: great, i will :)12:54
fdovingmarseillai: downloading.01:05
marseillaioki01:05
marseillaifdoving: sorry to ask you but i've search long time, ask to medibuntu people and no one was able to help me01:06
marseillaiand it's hard to find good doc on CDBS ..01:06
fdovingno problem, i'm happy to help you, if i can.01:07
marseillaifdoving: i'll next upload my smplayer package to REVU, i'll become his maintainer or i need to find someone more "official" for that?01:08
fdovingmarseillai: not sure how that is handled, ask in #ubuntu-motu01:09
marseillaioki01:09
marseillaiwhen it will be time i'll take a look01:09
Hobbseemarseillai: you're a medibuntu dev?01:20
marseillaino01:20
marseillaibut they are french01:20
Hobbseeahhhh01:20
Hobbseegood.01:20
marseillaiso it's more easy for me01:20
Hobbseeyep01:21
marseillaiHobbsee: but they are friend01:21
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marseillaieuh01:21
marseillaiHobbsee: could you explain ?01:21
Hobbseei will, but when i come back01:22
Hobbseedishes and stuff to do :(01:22
Hobbsee(darned parents)01:22
marseillaifdoving: any idea ?01:34
marseillai:$01:34
fdovingmarseillai: downloading libqt4-dev, i'll tell you when i have something.01:35
marseillaioki01:36
marseillaiyou've seen something bad in my package?01:36
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fdovingmarseillai: looks like you're missing a build depend.01:43
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Hobbseelibqt4-dev was replaced by something else, wasnt it?01:44
fdovingmarseillai: main.cpp:2:21: error: mainfrm.h: No such file or directory01:44
fdoving!find mainfrm.h01:45
ubotuFile mainfrm.h found in kdelibs4-dev01:45
fdovingmarseillai: remove libqt4-dev and add kdelibs4-dev instead.01:45
marseillaifdoving: i'll try but i thought it was a qt4 apps and not a kde4 apps01:46
fdovingmarseillai: also, the Depends: section in debian/control is a little bloated.01:46
fdovingmarseillai: you want to remove all qt things. as they are added by shlib:Depends if needed.01:47
marseillaiwhat mean bloated ?01:47
fdovingyou also want to move most of the apps to Recommends:01:47
fdovingi01:47
fdovingi'm not familiar with the app it self. but i would guess it runs without mencoder for example.01:48
fdoving!find edgy mainfrm.h01:48
ubotuFound: edgy-community-wallpapers, edgy-gdm-themes, edgy-session-splashes, edgy-wallpapers01:48
fdoving!find mainfrm.h feisty01:49
ubotuFile mainfrm.h found in kdelibs4-dev01:49
marseillaifdoving: according to this http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Manslide?content=52227 all is needed01:49
fdovingok.01:49
marseillaifdoving: so i remove qt4 and add kde as build dep then i move all the dep to recommend ?01:50
fdovingi can't even find mainfrm.h on my machine. anywhere.01:50
fdovingnot even in kdelibs4-dev01:50
fdovingmarseillai: not if the site says you -need- all those apps, then you want to keep them as depends.01:51
marseillaioki01:51
marseillaicompiling01:53
Hobbseemarseillai: in the case of say, adobe reader, how does medibuntu distribute that?01:55
fdovingmarseillai: looks to me like i'm missing atleast two files.01:55
fdovingmarseillai: they are local includes in the software, so i'm missing mainfrm.h and mainfrm.cpp i guess. do you have those?01:55
fdovingthey are in the .orig.tar.gz nevermind.01:55
Hobbsee(aka mozilla-acroread, i believe)01:56
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fdovingyay.. it compiles.01:57
marseillaifdoving: if i remove qt4libs-dev i've got this error : /bin/sh: qmake-qt4: not found01:57
fdovingmarseillai: yeah, sorry don't do that. change back, you were right. i was wrong.01:58
fdovingi found the file in the orig.tar.gz01:58
fdovingit has nothing to do with kdebase.01:58
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shenteyhi! i'd like to file a bug for the konqueror package in launchpad but the konqueror package cannot be choosen. any hints?02:09
Riddellshentey: source package is kdebase02:10
shenteyalright, it worked. thanks a lot!02:13
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marseillaifdoving: i still have an empty package! :s02:34
marseillaii'm coming completly crazy with this02:34
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MidMarkfdoving: any idea for the problem? I'm here to test for 2 hours from now :)02:42
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fdovingmidmark, just finished. hang on, i'll upload two files for you.02:48
fdovingmarseillai: sorry, i've been busy with this other hacking. i'll get to you as soon as i've uploaded the two files for midmark to test.02:48
marseillaifdoving: absolutly no problem02:49
marseillaii'll stay here all the day except some minutes because i have to choose my next president today02:49
fdovingmidmark, http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop and http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.sh02:50
fdovingmidmark, the .sh goes in /usr/bin/ and the .desktop goes in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/02:50
MidMarkok02:50
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MidMarktemporary file?02:52
fdovinghm?02:52
fdovingyou can re-fetch http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop - removed some commented lines.02:54
MidMarktried with 3 files, with dependencing and white spaces into path: result -> worked @100%02:58
fdovingnice.02:59
MidMarkgood jox fdoving thanx02:59
MidMark*job02:59
fdovingyou're welcome :)02:59
fdovingi'll attach the two files to the bug.03:00
MidMarkyes, they will be reach Feisty updates?03:00
fdovingnot sure. we'll see.03:00
MidMarkat least Gutsy :)03:02
nixternalall we need now is the debootstrap for gutsy and I will be ready to rock and roll03:03
MidMark!deboostrap03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deboostrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
MidMarkmm03:03
nixternal!info debootstrap03:03
ubotudebootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 272 kB03:03
nixternal!info debootstrap gutsy03:03
nixternalthere is nothing for gutsy yet, at least on packages.ubuntu.com03:03
MidMarkand what does'03:05
MidMark?03:05
fdovingMidMark: can you leave a comment at the bugreport about your testing-results? thanks.03:06
MidMarkfdoving: of course03:06
fdovinggreat.03:06
fdovingthat improves the chances of it beeing included.03:07
fdovingin a update.03:07
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MidMarkdone03:08
fdovinggreat.03:09
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nixternalboo03:10
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fdovingmarseillai: looks like manslide does not have the install target in their makefile. you'll have to figure out where to install the files.03:21
fdovingmarseillai: so you can either bug upstream, with their non-existing 'make install' target, or figure it out yourself.03:23
fdovingmarseillai: you likely want to install the Manslide binary, into debian/manslide/usr/bin/ in your debian/rules install:: target.03:24
fdovingatleast.03:24
fdovingthen you also need to copy Effects and all around.03:24
fdovingthe app crashes my X on exit, so i'm not very keen on helping you find out where to put the files :|03:24
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fdovingbbl.03:26
marseillaifdoving: oki i'll report the bug upstream03:27
MidMarksorry but this bug #85882 isn't a kde-guidance bug?03:39
ubotuMalone bug 85882 in kdmtheme "kdm-theme manager administration mode button missing" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8588203:39
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ryanakcabug 108630 is a low priority bug, right? or should I have set it to medium?03:56
ubotuMalone bug 108630 in kdebase "kicker has invalid dependencies" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10863003:56
ryanakcaand, is bug 108342 intentional or not?03:56
ubotuMalone bug 108342 in kdebase "konqueror web shortcuts for google not correct for region" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10834203:56
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shenteyhi! i've send a patch for bug 108892 [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/108892] 04:00
ubotuMalone bug 108892 in kdebase "customized konqueror menus get changed back to kubuntu default version on each konqueor update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 04:00
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Tm_Thmm, I had interesting question yesterday, when you open logout dialog, there's "grey curtain" but if, for example, you select to shut computer down, all grey effect disappears10:46
Tm_Thave to check if its reported as soon as I get that far10:46
Riddellyou have to interact with programmes that have unsaved data10:47
Tm_Taah10:49
Tm_Tso anyway, question was "is there any reason for this?" :)10:50
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sound_fxHello, I was suggested to ask my question here from the Kubuntu room, I have a problem where my screen seems to constantly flicker this black garbage on my screen. Any suggestions?11:00
Riddellthat description is a bit vauge11:02
sound_fxSorry, I have a hard time explaining it11:04
sound_fxI recently upgraded to Feisty11:04
sound_fxand I have an ATI Mobility 960011:05
sound_fxon a Dell laptop11:05
sound_fxAnd before upgrading, I did not have this problem11:05
sound_fxIt looks like black text that is scrolling upwards, but I can't really see what it says, as it is flickering very quickly11:05
sound_fxIt seems to be around the middle of my screen only11:05
sound_fxAnd not near the edges.11:06
sound_fxIs that a bit better Riddell?11:06
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ScottKsound_fx: Have you asked in #kubuntu11:07
sound_fxYes, I have.11:08
sound_fxThey recommended I asked here.11:08
sound_fxHm. I tried taking a screenshot to see if I could show it, but it isn't in the image.11:10
sound_fxJust on my screen.11:10
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