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[12:27] <hyperspace> is there a MOTU team for kubuntu?
[12:31] <hyperspace> hmm.. guess i'll check later when kubuntu wiki is more responsive
[12:32] <yuriy> hyperspace: i don't think there's a separate team
[12:32] <hyperspace> ah cool :)
[12:32] <hyperspace> i wanna help out!
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[12:34] <hyperspace> never stuck w/ a distro this long, @ both work and office
[12:34] <hyperspace> i mean home and office
[12:34] <hyperspace> lol
[12:46] <Riddell> hyperspace: no separate team, MOTU for kubuntu is spread accross kubuntu developer places like this and motu places list #ubuntu-motu
[12:47] <hyperspace> yea
[12:47] <hyperspace> just hopped into #ubuntu-motu
[12:47] <hyperspace> thanks for the info
[12:47] <hyperspace> :)
[12:48] <Riddell> hyperspace: I can't think have anything specific needing done today, but if you find something that needs packaged we're happy to help when you get stuck
[12:49] <hyperspace> yea checking out the packaging tutorials right now
[12:49] <hyperspace> gonna run up to office and grab my notebook adept hung before i left, had to restart dist-upgrade via ssh and stuff... i fear a reinstall lol
[12:50] <Riddell> plenty of bugs needing triaged of course :)
[12:50] <hyperspace> yea im definately into helping
[12:50] <hyperspace> use it on multiple machines @ work and home
[12:50] <hyperspace> for over a year stuck w/ kubuntu
[12:50] <hyperspace> its beautiful
[12:51] <hyperspace> therefore, i must help!
[12:51] <hyperspace> use it on big servers @ work too (ubuntu-server)
[12:52] <Riddell> once gusty opens there will be plenty of merging work to do
[12:52] <Riddell> new versions of everything
[12:53] <hyperspace> looking forward to learning the process
[12:53] <Tm_T> :)
[12:53] <hyperspace> ive also taught a few people how to use linux via kubuntu
[12:53] <hyperspace> that i work w/
[12:54] <Riddell> excellent
[12:54] <hyperspace> bbiab
[01:02] <Tm_T> Riddell: sladen was real "star" in our party :)
[01:02] <Tm_T> fun day :)
[01:05] <Riddell> Tm_T: oh thank goodness, he got out of russia before his visa ran out :)
[01:05] <Tm_T> =)
[01:06] <Tm_T> and we had sauna and all :=
[01:06] <Tm_T> :)
[01:13] <Tm_T> ok, time to get some sleep. good night folks and big thanks for Feisty <3
[01:34] <hyperspace> killer! notebook updated properly :)
[01:34] <hyperspace> even w/ killing adept and restarting a few times with bunk /etc/resolv.conf from the notebook randomly hopping onto a wireless ap then loosing connection lol
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[01:35] <hyperspace> http://wizardsleeve.com/tb0x.png :)
[01:42] <nixternal> haha, Riddell still calling it gusty, the flatulent monkey
[01:42] <nixternal> Riddell: did you get that link to Edgy and Feisty doc updates?
[02:01] <Riddell> nixternal: I did yes, not sure when I'll get to it (monday at the latest)
[02:02] <nixternal> that's cool, they are done, and they build fast. docbook-xml wasn't a dep for some reason
[02:02] <nixternal> in Dapper, Edgy, and Feisty it was missing
[02:03] <nixternal> so pbuilder only takes a little over 20 minutes now to build
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[02:08] <Riddell> groovy, thanks for that
[02:11] <nixternal> no problem, anytime! now go and enjoy the weekend
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[04:55] <ryanakca> in firefox, feisty, kubuntu wiki theme, is the top bar/kubuntu logo not displaying properly for anybody else? (This page is continuously being improperly displayed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom )
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: define not properly?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ie, screenshot?
[05:00] <ryanakca> yeah
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[05:04] <ryanakca> hmm... seems to be taking an eternity to load
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[05:11] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: http://blog.ryanak.ca/wiki.png
[05:12] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: mine doesnt even appear to be blue at the moment - seems to be running hte ubuntu theme
[05:12] <ryanakca> hmm... do you have it set in your preferences to the kubuntu theme?
[05:29] <ryanakca> anywais, I'm heading to bed, cheers
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[06:44] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: i confirm that, now that it's loaded
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[09:49] <allee> zakame: could you add an ICQ account?  I've tried with a fresh user too. Didn't work
[09:56] <giangy> 'morning
[09:57] <Hobbsee> hi giangy
[09:57] <fdoving> morning all.
[09:57] <fdoving> google is amazing.
[09:57] <Hobbsee> oh?
[09:57] <fdoving> it's a calculator too!
[09:57] <fdoving> http://www.google.no/search?q=1680x1050%2B1440%2B0&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[09:58] <fdoving> trying to search for a resolution, and it returns 1 765 440
[09:58] <Hobbsee> nice :)
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[10:00] <Hobbsee> giangy: wouldnt bother yet
[10:00] <Hobbsee> giangy: wait till the toolchain is done, at least
[10:00] <fdoving> so xrandr 1.2 is cool.
[10:02] <giangy> Hobbsee: heh, at the moment I see only binutils
[10:02] <giangy> btw, I'm using it in some testing-boxes, so it isn't a problem :-)
[10:14] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:15] <freeflying> Riddell: around?
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[12:05] <MidMark> hello
[12:05] <MidMark> is there a bug report for the problem that in Feisty I cannot install more than 1 debian package with right click->kubuntu menu->install?
[12:09] <fdoving> you can't?
[12:09] <fdoving> ah.. you mean select more than one and install?
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[12:13] <MidMark> exactly
[12:13] <MidMark> broken in Feisty
[12:13] <MidMark> that is particular annoying if you have dependencing
[12:18] <fdoving> is that broken in edgy too
[12:18] <fdoving> ?
[12:18] <fdoving> or is it a regression in feisty?
[12:21] <MidMark> it's a regression
[12:21] <MidMark> in Edgy works perfectly
[12:21] <fdoving> ok. i know what did it.
[12:21] <fdoving> another bug was fixed.
[12:21] <fdoving> the fix introduces this.
[12:21] <fdoving> want a local fix?
[12:21] <MidMark> if you have temporary :)
[12:22] <fdoving> open /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop
[12:22] <fdoving> in a editor, with root permissions.
[12:22] <fdoving> find:
[12:22] <fdoving> Exec=xterm -title "%c" -e 'sudo dpkg -i "%U"; echo "Press <enter> to exit..."; read;'
[12:22] <fdoving> change dpkg -i "%U"  to dpkg -i %U
[12:22] <fdoving> save and exit.
[12:22] <fdoving> test.
[12:23] <MidMark> done
[12:23] <MidMark> testing
[12:24] <MidMark> works thanx, bug report?
[12:24] <fdoving> yes, please report it.
[12:25] <MidMark> I've searched for duplicates but cannot find it
[12:25] <MidMark> against kubuntu-default-settings?
[12:26] <fdoving> yes.
[12:27] <fdoving> note that with this fix, paths with spaces does not work.
[12:27] <fdoving> i'll try to come up with something smarter.
[12:28] <fdoving> you can subscribe me to the bugreport too. frode@lnix.net
[12:31] <MidMark> confirmed, path with spaces doesn't work, is this the bug fixed that make the regression?
[12:31] <fdoving> yes.
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[12:36] <MidMark> done bug #108870
[12:36] <fdoving> thanks.
[12:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 108870 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty regression]  install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870
[12:39] <MidMark> why without "" spaces doesn't work?
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[12:50] <marseillai> hi
[12:50] <marseillai> fdoving: do you have some time ? :$
[12:51] <fdoving> marseillai: yes.
[12:51] <marseillai> fdoving: since 3 days i'm trying to make a cdbs package of manslide, and i'm totally failing! my package is always empty
[12:51] <fdoving> MidMark: you around for some testing in some minutes?
[12:51] <MidMark> fdoving: for sure
[12:51] <fdoving> marseillai: ok. can you put your package source online somewhere so i can download?
[12:52] <fdoving> MidMark: i'll ping you when i have something then. :)
[12:52] <marseillai> fdoving: yes no problem : ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/manslide.tar.gz
[12:54] <MidMark> fdoving: ok go to eat be stay online, just ping me with something and I will test
[12:54] <fdoving> MidMark: great, i will :)
[01:05] <fdoving> marseillai: downloading.
[01:05] <marseillai> oki
[01:06] <marseillai> fdoving: sorry to ask you but i've search long time, ask to medibuntu people and no one was able to help me
[01:06] <marseillai> and it's hard to find good doc on CDBS ..
[01:07] <fdoving> no problem, i'm happy to help you, if i can.
[01:08] <marseillai> fdoving: i'll next upload my smplayer package to REVU, i'll become his maintainer or i need to find someone more "official" for that?
[01:09] <fdoving> marseillai: not sure how that is handled, ask in #ubuntu-motu
[01:09] <marseillai> oki
[01:09] <marseillai> when it will be time i'll take a look
[01:20] <Hobbsee> marseillai: you're a medibuntu dev?
[01:20] <marseillai> no
[01:20] <marseillai> but they are french
[01:20] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
[01:20] <Hobbsee> good.
[01:20] <marseillai> so it's more easy for me
[01:21] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:21] <marseillai> Hobbsee: but they are friend
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[01:21] <marseillai> euh
[01:21] <marseillai> Hobbsee: could you explain ?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> i will, but when i come back
[01:22] <Hobbsee> dishes and stuff to do :(
[01:22] <Hobbsee> (darned parents)
[01:34] <marseillai> fdoving: any idea ?
[01:34] <marseillai> :$
[01:35] <fdoving> marseillai: downloading libqt4-dev, i'll tell you when i have something.
[01:36] <marseillai> oki
[01:36] <marseillai> you've seen something bad in my package?
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[01:43] <fdoving> marseillai: looks like you're missing a build depend.
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[01:44] <Hobbsee> libqt4-dev was replaced by something else, wasnt it?
[01:44] <fdoving> marseillai: main.cpp:2:21: error: mainfrm.h: No such file or directory
[01:45] <fdoving> !find mainfrm.h
[01:45] <ubotu> File mainfrm.h found in kdelibs4-dev
[01:45] <fdoving> marseillai: remove libqt4-dev and add kdelibs4-dev instead.
[01:46] <marseillai> fdoving: i'll try but i thought it was a qt4 apps and not a kde4 apps
[01:46] <fdoving> marseillai: also, the Depends: section in debian/control is a little bloated.
[01:47] <fdoving> marseillai: you want to remove all qt things. as they are added by shlib:Depends if needed.
[01:47] <marseillai> what mean bloated ?
[01:47] <fdoving> you also want to move most of the apps to Recommends:
[01:47] <fdoving> i
[01:48] <fdoving> i'm not familiar with the app it self. but i would guess it runs without mencoder for example.
[01:48] <fdoving> !find edgy mainfrm.h
[01:48] <ubotu> Found: edgy-community-wallpapers, edgy-gdm-themes, edgy-session-splashes, edgy-wallpapers
[01:49] <fdoving> !find mainfrm.h feisty
[01:49] <ubotu> File mainfrm.h found in kdelibs4-dev
[01:49] <marseillai> fdoving: according to this http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Manslide?content=52227 all is needed
[01:49] <fdoving> ok.
[01:50] <marseillai> fdoving: so i remove qt4 and add kde as build dep then i move all the dep to recommend ?
[01:50] <fdoving> i can't even find mainfrm.h on my machine. anywhere.
[01:50] <fdoving> not even in kdelibs4-dev
[01:51] <fdoving> marseillai: not if the site says you -need- all those apps, then you want to keep them as depends.
[01:51] <marseillai> oki
[01:53] <marseillai> compiling
[01:55] <Hobbsee> marseillai: in the case of say, adobe reader, how does medibuntu distribute that?
[01:55] <fdoving> marseillai: looks to me like i'm missing atleast two files.
[01:55] <fdoving> marseillai: they are local includes in the software, so i'm missing mainfrm.h and mainfrm.cpp i guess. do you have those?
[01:55] <fdoving> they are in the .orig.tar.gz nevermind.
[01:56] <Hobbsee> (aka mozilla-acroread, i believe)
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[01:57] <fdoving> yay.. it compiles.
[01:57] <marseillai> fdoving: if i remove qt4libs-dev i've got this error : /bin/sh: qmake-qt4: not found
[01:58] <fdoving> marseillai: yeah, sorry don't do that. change back, you were right. i was wrong.
[01:58] <fdoving> i found the file in the orig.tar.gz
[01:58] <fdoving> it has nothing to do with kdebase.
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[02:09] <shentey> hi! i'd like to file a bug for the konqueror package in launchpad but the konqueror package cannot be choosen. any hints?
[02:10] <Riddell> shentey: source package is kdebase
[02:13] <shentey> alright, it worked. thanks a lot!
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[02:34] <marseillai> fdoving: i still have an empty package! :s
[02:34] <marseillai> i'm coming completly crazy with this
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[02:42] <MidMark> fdoving: any idea for the problem? I'm here to test for 2 hours from now :)
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[02:48] <fdoving> midmark, just finished. hang on, i'll upload two files for you.
[02:48] <fdoving> marseillai: sorry, i've been busy with this other hacking. i'll get to you as soon as i've uploaded the two files for midmark to test.
[02:49] <marseillai> fdoving: absolutly no problem
[02:49] <marseillai> i'll stay here all the day except some minutes because i have to choose my next president today
[02:50] <fdoving> midmark, http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop and http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.sh
[02:50] <fdoving> midmark, the .sh goes in /usr/bin/ and the .desktop goes in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[02:50] <MidMark> ok
=== MidMark go and test
[02:52] <MidMark> temporary file?
[02:52] <fdoving> hm?
[02:54] <fdoving> you can re-fetch http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kubuntu-servicemenu.desktop - removed some commented lines.
[02:58] <MidMark> tried with 3 files, with dependencing and white spaces into path: result -> worked @100%
[02:59] <fdoving> nice.
[02:59] <MidMark> good jox fdoving thanx
[02:59] <MidMark> *job
[02:59] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[03:00] <fdoving> i'll attach the two files to the bug.
[03:00] <MidMark> yes, they will be reach Feisty updates?
[03:00] <fdoving> not sure. we'll see.
[03:02] <MidMark> at least Gutsy :)
[03:03] <nixternal> all we need now is the debootstrap for gutsy and I will be ready to rock and roll
[03:03] <MidMark> !deboostrap
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deboostrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <MidMark> mm
[03:03] <nixternal> !info debootstrap
[03:03] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 49 kB, installed size 272 kB
[03:03] <nixternal> !info debootstrap gutsy
[03:03] <nixternal> there is nothing for gutsy yet, at least on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:05] <MidMark> and what does'
[03:05] <MidMark> ?
[03:06] <fdoving> MidMark: can you leave a comment at the bugreport about your testing-results? thanks.
[03:06] <MidMark> fdoving: of course
[03:06] <fdoving> great.
[03:07] <fdoving> that improves the chances of it beeing included.
[03:07] <fdoving> in a update.
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[03:08] <MidMark> done
[03:09] <fdoving> great.
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[03:10] <nixternal> boo
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[03:21] <fdoving> marseillai: looks like manslide does not have the install target in their makefile. you'll have to figure out where to install the files.
[03:23] <fdoving> marseillai: so you can either bug upstream, with their non-existing 'make install' target, or figure it out yourself.
[03:24] <fdoving> marseillai: you likely want to install the Manslide binary, into debian/manslide/usr/bin/ in your debian/rules install:: target.
[03:24] <fdoving> atleast.
[03:24] <fdoving> then you also need to copy Effects and all around.
[03:24] <fdoving> the app crashes my X on exit, so i'm not very keen on helping you find out where to put the files :|
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[03:26] <fdoving> bbl.
[03:27] <marseillai> fdoving: oki i'll report the bug upstream
[03:39] <MidMark> sorry but this bug #85882 isn't a kde-guidance bug?
[03:39] <ubotu> Malone bug 85882 in kdmtheme "kdm-theme manager administration mode button missing" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85882
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[03:56] <ryanakca> bug 108630 is a low priority bug, right? or should I have set it to medium?
[03:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 108630 in kdebase "kicker has invalid dependencies" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108630
[03:56] <ryanakca> and, is bug 108342 intentional or not?
[03:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 108342 in kdebase "konqueror web shortcuts for google not correct for region" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108342
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[04:00] <shentey> hi! i've send a patch for bug 108892 [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/108892] 
[04:00] <ubotu> Malone bug 108892 in kdebase "customized konqueror menus get changed back to kubuntu default version on each konqueor update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
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[10:46] <Tm_T> hmm, I had interesting question yesterday, when you open logout dialog, there's "grey curtain" but if, for example, you select to shut computer down, all grey effect disappears
[10:46] <Tm_T> have to check if its reported as soon as I get that far
[10:47] <Riddell> you have to interact with programmes that have unsaved data
[10:49] <Tm_T> aah
[10:50] <Tm_T> so anyway, question was "is there any reason for this?" :)
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[11:00] <sound_fx> Hello, I was suggested to ask my question here from the Kubuntu room, I have a problem where my screen seems to constantly flicker this black garbage on my screen. Any suggestions?
[11:02] <Riddell> that description is a bit vauge
[11:04] <sound_fx> Sorry, I have a hard time explaining it
[11:04] <sound_fx> I recently upgraded to Feisty
[11:05] <sound_fx> and I have an ATI Mobility 9600
[11:05] <sound_fx> on a Dell laptop
[11:05] <sound_fx> And before upgrading, I did not have this problem
[11:05] <sound_fx> It looks like black text that is scrolling upwards, but I can't really see what it says, as it is flickering very quickly
[11:05] <sound_fx> It seems to be around the middle of my screen only
[11:06] <sound_fx> And not near the edges.
[11:06] <sound_fx> Is that a bit better Riddell?
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[11:07] <ScottK> sound_fx: Have you asked in #kubuntu
[11:08] <sound_fx> Yes, I have.
[11:08] <sound_fx> They recommended I asked here.
[11:10] <sound_fx> Hm. I tried taking a screenshot to see if I could show it, but it isn't in the image.
[11:10] <sound_fx> Just on my screen.
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