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ArwenMinceR, well, it's a deb. Opera is closed-source so any opera deb is the same as any other.12:14
kdawgyeah there was a time 5 years ago when that would be fast12:14
Search4Lancerokay, this is rediculous... is there a mirror of the "known problems" page anywhere?12:14
kdawgnow 60K/s == lame12:14
Arwenkdawg, hehe, my max is 150K/s anyway :-\12:14
BluesKajI have 1G memory , azureus / java m,dependent  buggy12:14
kdawghaha I peak at around 300, but average is 15012:15
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MinceRArwen: so i shouldn't expect any dependency problems?12:15
kdawgi was running azureus on edgy with 256MB and I'm surprised my drives didnt fail from all the swapping12:15
ArwenMinceR, err, probably not - most of Opera is statically linked to the dependencies12:15
kdawgit took up 192mb of space in memory12:15
chemicalvampthe most ive ever downloaded/sec was 7241kb/s it was sweet12:15
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atroposhello12:16
kdawgI used to get speeds like that on the campus network, then they blocked all the ports.... :(12:16
Arwenchemicalvamp, 7M/s???12:16
Tired_so, I'm in a second console (an Alt+F1 one), and X is running poorly in Alt+F8...how can I make it restart over there from where I am?12:16
atroposI am on the fiesty live cd and the resolution is not being set correctly12:16
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kdawgsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:16
atroposthe chip set is Intel 82845G/GL12:16
Arwenkdawg, lol - when I leech at the local University I get 500K/s down and 10M/s up....12:16
atroposany sugestions12:16
chemicalvampthe owner of my apartment ran a ISP from the building, had satalite access from the roof, and a LAN in ever room in the building12:16
kdawgyeah gotta love those T1 lines12:17
Arwenatropos, 915resolution maybe?12:17
atroposwill do12:17
Arwenkdawg, T1 is 1.5M symmetric, lol12:17
kdawgyeah whatever12:17
kdawgfiberoptic then12:17
chemicalvampi had 7down 3up12:17
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kdawg:)12:17
aftermathI think I found the file causing the Joliet problem: Scarface.1983.DVDRip.R2UK.NORDIC.PAL.2CD.XviD-BAG.3285155.TPB.torrent12:17
kdawgyeah perhaps12:17
Arwenaftermath, no warez here...12:18
chemicalvamphis server was sweet had 10down 100up.. luck SOB12:18
Tired_thanks again  :)12:18
aftermathArwen: Not a link, just a filename12:18
chris2142sdheh12:18
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aftermathWho knows, I may have decided to name my tax returns that12:18
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david_I've just upgraded frm 6.01 to 7.04, and now I'm getting intermittant soundcard issues (ie: stuck on high pitched ringing tones). Is this a known issue?12:18
chemicalvampbut even if you had 100down... where the heck are you going to find a server thats gonna let you download off them for 100mb/s?12:18
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chemicalvampbesides the pcpitstop.com bandwidth test12:19
aftermathaha12:19
chris2142sdchemicalvamp: with bit torrent you just have to find a hundred servers willing to let you download at 1 mb/s;)12:19
aftermathI found the actual file12:19
msoinihello12:19
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ShiftedBeeftorrents I guess.12:19
aftermath(I hope this time for real) Torrent.lnk12:19
aftermathyeah, I think the chars aren't allowed in isos12:19
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msoiniis anyone feeling adventurous_12:19
kdawgyeah makes sense12:19
aftermathnot particularly12:19
atroposArwen: it is saying the package does not exit12:20
atroposexist rather12:20
aftermathnice.12:20
aftermathit started writing.12:20
aftermaththanks all12:20
Arwenatropos, hmm, dunno then12:20
atroposthe issue is the installer is too big for the fall back resolution12:20
kdawgmsoni, last time I felt adventurous, I woke up with three paternity suits12:20
msoinilol12:20
Arwenatropos, use the alternate CD then. It's plain better12:20
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kdawgyeah, alternat > live cd12:20
chemicalvampchris2142sd yeah thats what i mean after you have 1mb/s your wastin your money... if you pay for 10mb/s your wasting your money, because they are like all capped12:21
mehdi_est ce que il ya qq1 qui c parler en francais12:21
kdawgok i give up, how do i set konqueror so that I have to double click on files instead of single clicking12:21
chemicalvampi mean up to 1mb/s is good.. 10 is a waste12:21
kdawgie. not "web style"12:22
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BluesKajkdawg, sytem settings/ keyboard mouse12:22
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aftermathhow much can I overburn a DVDR?12:22
kdawg......that seems like a silly place to put it12:22
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neoncodeHey if I got two realy big mpg files, about 1-1.5GB each. Can I join them together seamlessly?12:23
kdawgthanks though!12:23
msoinii installed kubuntu yesterday12:23
msoinihad a blast until a while ago, can't log in now12:23
msoinibooted using the livecd12:23
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chemicalvampmsoini what does it do12:23
aftermathooh, I just figured where kdesu comes from :D go me12:23
msoiniit boots, and gives me the login screen12:24
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chemicalvampmsoini and then you put your "log in name" in and password in right?12:24
msoiniwhen i type in my password the screen goes black for a few seconds, then returns to the login screen12:24
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aftermathI <3 livecds. They let me destroy my partitions in peace12:25
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ShiftedBeefNow here is a question: Has anyone here successfully dual booted XP and Kubuntu 6.06?12:25
chemicalvampmsoini boot the live cd and do the "test cd integrity" if it comes out ok, boot it and try re-installing12:25
aftermathShiftedBeef: I dual-booted ubuntu 6.17 (I think that was it) and xpmc12:25
kdawgI succesfully booted XP and Ubuntu 6.0612:26
kdawgbut not Kubuntu12:26
kdawgshortly thereafter, I used a live cd to nuke the xp partition :D12:26
BluesKajyup , ShiftedBeef ...had dapper and xp , on separate partitons12:26
chemicalvampkdawg your installing xp first and then kubuntu right/12:26
kdawgyes12:26
msoinichemicalvamp: hmm, sounds radical12:26
kdawgthats how microsoft likes it12:26
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ShiftedBeefThat's what I tried to do, actually. Soon as Grub takes over the bootloader, BAM.12:26
kdawgit needs to be first on the MBR12:26
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david_How can I find/modify what sound drivers I'm using?12:27
hyperspaceis there a MOTU team for kubuntu?12:27
ShiftedBeefSoon as Kubuntu is installed, BSOD.12:27
ShiftedBeefOn the XP partition that is.12:27
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kdawginteresting12:28
BluesKajShiftedBeef, are you having boot probs ?12:28
kdawgmaybe put in the XP cd and do a repair>12:28
kdawgbut that will wipe out grub I think12:28
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ShiftedBeefOnly on the XP partiton.12:28
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ShiftedBeefCan't repair the partiton.12:28
ShiftedBeefI tried.12:28
kdawgis the XP partition on the hda drive, or primary master12:29
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BluesKajShiftedBeef, did you install kubuntu without setting up an ext partition first /12:29
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ShiftedBeefYes.12:29
BluesKajused the partition editor in the install cd then12:29
Tired_YAY!  I have a working Feisty desktop!  Thanks for all your help. :)12:30
ShiftedBeefI manually set my partitons. I leave the Windows one alone, and I set up a root and a swap partion.12:30
BluesKajor not ?12:30
BluesKajok, then you should be ok12:30
chemicalvampso your xp partition is fubar and you need to reinstall, and by doing that restoring windows boot loader instead of grub? that is a pickle12:30
aftermathhow do I tar a set of directories individually at once12:30
cramahi all, I just see there are the new gutsy folders on the repository. What is the suggested method to upgrade to Gutsy?12:31
ShiftedBeefIf I try to reinstall XP while Kubuntu is still installed, then it will report an error and halt the format.12:31
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louieb391I just came in - but is someone trying to install the windows boot loader over grub?12:31
facugaichare there md5sums for the CD isos?12:31
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dante_Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.12:31
BluesKajShiftedBeef, get the SuperGrub live cd if possible , it''ll restore your windows access by reinstalling Grub12:31
ShiftedBeefWell, if that were an option I'd go for it.12:32
chemicalvampShiftedBeef whats it doing when you try to bo the windows partition?12:32
chemicalvampboot*12:32
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ShiftedBeefIt gets as far as the XP logo, and BSOD's.12:32
BluesKajShiftedBeef, if you install windows AFTER kubuntu , it wipes Grub12:33
chemicalvampBluesKaj he cant12:33
ShiftedBeefActually it halts the format entirely.12:33
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aos101@facugaich: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS12:33
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louieb391run chdsk shifted12:33
BluesKajwhat partition editor are you using , ShiftedBeef ?12:33
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chemicalvampcan you boot into safe mode?12:33
louieb391chkdsk*12:33
chemicalvampgrib12:33
facugaichaos101, thank you very much12:33
chemicalvampgrub*12:33
ShiftedBeefNo safe mode, and no chkdsk.12:34
ShiftedBeefI have tried both.12:34
Doctor_Nick:D >:(12:34
louieb391shift use the windows disk and go to repair and run it12:34
louieb391ooh12:34
louieb391oops12:34
BluesKajShiftedBeef, get GParted ...it's the best live cd partition editor , in my experience12:34
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef can you back up all your stuff and wipe the whole disk?12:35
aftermathhow do I view files in my dvd drive?12:35
ShiftedBeefYeah, I have.12:35
ShiftedBeefOh, one more snag. I also cannot mount my slaved NTFS HDD.12:35
chemicalvampShiftedBeef so your hard drive is blank12:36
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ShiftedBeefMy Primary HDD has my OS and everything else, my slaved has my data, but I can only access it when XP is installed.12:36
ShiftedBeefOtherwise Kubuntu will refuse to mount.12:36
chemicalvampShiftedBeef a slavedrive would be hdb instead of hda FYI12:37
dante_Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.12:37
ShiftedBeefI know.12:37
chemicalvampk12:37
ShiftedBeefI'll called it hdb if it makes it easier then.12:37
chemicalvampim confused on whats on your master drive right now12:37
cramaAnyone just tried to change the repositories to Gutsy?12:38
ShiftedBeefIt is all formatted.12:38
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chemicalvampso your on a live cd?12:38
ShiftedBeefWell no. I instaled Kubuntu.12:38
chemicalvampon your slave drive?12:39
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chemicalvampyou said your primary was formated, what did you install kubuntu on?12:39
mehdi_\server irc.voila.fr12:39
ShiftedBeefWell, various things.12:39
Tm_Thi kids12:40
ShiftedBeefMusic files, tech calls, games, etc.12:40
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ShiftedBeefAll my data is there on hdb if I format and install Windows.12:40
dante_Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.12:40
ShiftedBeefKubuntu will refuse to mount it however.12:40
canasdoes anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?12:41
chemicalvampShiftedBeef whats the location of it? hdb1?12:41
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ShiftedBeefyes.12:41
chemicalvampand its ntfs?12:42
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ceckoHi all, please help me with Beryl, I have it running but there are no window borders and even some buttons are missing12:42
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ShiftedBeef"mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:43
ShiftedBeef"12:43
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chemicalvampsudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb112:43
ArwenShiftedBeef, that means you don't have a /dev/hdb1 mounted12:43
chemicalvampif its ntfs12:43
khaije1what is the default blocksize for ext3?12:44
canasdoes anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?12:44
Arwenkhaije1, 4k12:44
Arwencanas, me12:44
Arwencanas, well, Ubuntu, but it's the same idea12:44
kristjan_what's up with https://wiki.kubuntu.org/? it displays kinda messed up12:44
canashow i can install it12:44
ShiftedBeefnt/hdb1mkdir: invalid option -- t12:44
dante_Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.12:44
chemicalvampcanas #ubuntu-effects12:44
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Aloneais there a way for adept to undo something it did?12:45
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canastnx chemicalvamp12:45
khaije1thx Arwen12:45
ShiftedBeefIt should mount when I click on it, or when I right click and hit mount.12:45
AloneaI tried reinstalling my wlassistant and it REMOVED something else along with the reinstallation!12:45
chemicalvamp -t =device by type should be followed by the partition type.. so if its not ntfs that command would be wrong12:45
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef do fdisk -l (thats a lowercase L)12:46
ShiftedBeefInteresting, so that might mean that Kubuntu is not seeing the drive as ntfs?12:46
chemicalvampsee what it calls it in fdisk12:46
chemicalvampShiftedBeef pastebin the output of fdisk -l12:47
chemicalvamp!paste12:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:47
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ShiftedBeefCannot open /dev/hdb112:47
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef it said that in fdisk -l?12:48
dante_Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.12:48
apusdante_: does it display minimized ones?12:48
ShiftedBeeffdisk /dev/hdb1 -l12:49
ShiftedBeefthat was when fdisk -l did nothing but go down to the next line.12:49
dante_apus no it doesnt12:49
chemicalvampShiftedBeef no do sudo fdisk -l copy the output into the pastebin and paste the address in ere12:49
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ShiftedBeefhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16931/12:50
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sstchurI just installed the latest nvidia drivers, but now everytime I reboot X fails to start until I issue the command sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia.... why is this and how do I make it so I don't have to do this?12:51
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cnjdante_: if you right-click the t-bar, select configure panel and go to the taskbar pane is "show application icons" selected?12:52
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lupulnvidia rullzzz!!12:52
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dante_cnj: ya it is selected.12:53
dasnipahmm how would i check to see if i have any compositing effects enabled?12:53
aos101@dante_: If you right click on it, go "Add Applet to Panel" and add a Taskbar applet does it show them then?12:53
chemicalvampShiftedBeef type these "sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb" "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1" if theres an error pastebin it12:53
apushow can I make the forward and back button on my 7 button mouse to actually go forward and back in firefox and konquerer, currently they do things like create new tab12:53
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef and from now on, if your going to share a back-up drive with windows/linux.. make it fat32 : /12:54
dante_@aos101 ya it shows that12:54
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aos101@dante_:So now you've added the applet, is it showing applications OK?12:55
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ShiftedBeefhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16932/12:55
cnjdante_: have you by chance changed the default coloring of the task bar (I am really stretching here!:) )12:55
Tired_is there like, a stable and unstable branch of the repositories?12:56
dante_@aos101: it still doesnt display active applications12:56
txwikingerShiftedBeef: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 (the 1 is missing)12:56
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chemicalvampmyles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb12:56
chemicalvampneeds to be myles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 try again12:56
Tired_i used gentoo before, and it had ~x86...does Kubuntu have something similar I can shut off?12:56
Tired_or do I not have to?12:57
dante_@cnj: no i havent12:57
Tm_Thmm, you mean "unstable" ?12:57
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aos101@dante_: If you added the applet and it still isn't showing them, I don't know what is wrong.  Maybe someone else knows?12:57
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ShiftedBeefOk now, it looks like it is mounted, but got an error dialougue when trying to enter it.12:58
iainhey guys, quick queston you someone can probably answer straight way12:58
esaymis there any way to gewt sound in ms pps files?12:58
cnjdante_: so, this is the default install taskbar?12:58
ShiftedBeefCould not enter folder /mnt/hdb1.12:58
iaindoes anyone know the terminal command to restart ALSA?12:58
Tired_Tm_T _. maybe.  i mean I don't want unstable things.12:58
iainas in to reboot just the part of the OS handling my sound output12:58
ShiftedBeefWe are close though! :)12:58
iainI'm just back from a hibernate and (as sometimes happens) it doesn't work.12:59
chemicalvampShiftedBeef does the folder hdb1 have a lock icon over it?12:59
iainI can't be bothered restarting the whole machine12:59
Tm_TTired_: no you should not get any unstable stuff without hard effort so no worries12:59
Tired_:)12:59
dante_cnj: Yup defualt taskbar12:59
ShiftedBeefNope, no lock.12:59
iainetc/init.d/alsa restart? or something?12:59
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mojojojohello first timer on irc12:59
chemicalvampShiftedBeef close the window and run the command "kdesu konqueror"01:00
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kristjan_iain: maybe try #alsa?01:00
BluesKajiain, 'alsamixer' in the terminal01:00
kristjan_#alsa01:00
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iainalsa doesn't do much and mixer will just bring me to the colume control01:00
iainI want to actually restart that module01:00
iainequiv of /etc/init.d/apache2 restart01:01
mojojojohave a technical problem with formatting external hard drive, can someone help?01:01
kristjan_unload module then?01:01
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chemicalvampmojojojo sure01:01
iainkristjan> I just sound like I know what I'm talking about :-D ....not sure what to type to do that.01:01
ShiftedBeefWell, it took the command, but no response.01:02
chemicalvampmojojojo type "fdisk -l (thats an L) and pastbin the output01:02
BluesKajiain, if aslamixer shows up , that means it should be working01:02
chemicalvampShiftedBeef no konqueror window popped up?01:02
mojojojocool, executed mkfs.ext301:02
iainblueskaj> yep I occasionally get this error though01:02
iainblueskaj> and even although the sound is configured to be on the souond isn't there. It's associated with resuming from hybernation01:03
mojojojothen learned that it need be fat to work with windoes too01:03
ShiftedBeefnope.01:03
iainanyway I can fix it by restarting the computer01:03
iainI'm trying to find a faster way :)01:03
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iainas I believe that all restarting is doing to help is reloading alsa01:03
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iainso if I could do that from terminal....01:03
chemicalvampShiftedBeef ok.. hold alt, hit space bar (this is katapault) type konsole hit enter01:03
BluesKajsorry, dunno about hibernation ... never use it01:03
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kristjan_iain: sudo modprobe -r thatmodule01:03
kristjan_iain: and then sudo modprobe thatmodule01:04
mojojojowell it is now in process of writing inode tables01:04
chemicalvampthen type kdesu konqueror dont close the konsole01:04
ShiftedBeefOk, up came a konqueror window.01:04
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chemicalvampnow put /mnt/hdb1 in the address bar and hit enter01:05
sstchur_Why is it that X fails to start (now that I've installed new nVidia drivers) until I issue the command "sudo rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia" ?01:05
ShiftedBeefThat did it.01:05
ShiftedBeefI now have access.01:05
ShiftedBeefNow is this permanent?01:05
iainkrisjan thanks for your help :-)01:05
chemicalvampShiftedBeef now i hope there was a point to all of that ;)01:06
kristjan_sstchur_: how did you install nvidida drivers?01:06
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kristjan_iain: does it work?01:06
iainkrisjan - I'm going to search through the options using tab..........could take a while01:06
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sstchur_kristjan_: I used an install script from nvidia01:06
chemicalvampShiftedBeef back up your stuff if needed, we'll get your duel boot working01:06
ShiftedBeefThere was. Thank you so much for your help!01:06
iainkristjan_> not sure yet01:06
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iainkristjan_> need to find the actual name of the module to test it01:06
sstchur_kristjan_: well, actually I tried to follow these instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA01:06
kristjan_sstchur_: install script?01:07
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mojojojofdisk -l is not showing the harddrive01:07
sstchur_kristjan_: maybe I"m not saying it right.. I dunno, I did wget as those instructions say, and got the NVIDIA-Linux-x86....pkg1.run file01:07
chemicalvampShiftedBeef if you want to be able to access that folder without running kdesu konqueror right click on the folder "hdb1" and click the permissions tabe, and put them all as can read / modify"01:07
Mena!Ktorrent01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
kristjan_sstchur_: you probably forgot to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common01:07
sstchur_kristjan_: which I ran with sudo sh01:07
Mena!ktorrent01:07
iainkristjan_> which means typing what you wrote minus the 'that module' and hitting tab until it lists loooads of options then either trying them all or my favourate - pick randomly01:07
sstchur_kristjan_: yes I probably did b/c I don't know what that means and didn't see it in the instructions01:08
chemicalvamp!info ktorrent01:08
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB01:08
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kristjan_iain: lsmod will show you modules used01:08
sstchur_kristjan_: ok... I'm somewhat familiar with lsmod... what I don't get is why X fails to start every time I reboot until I do sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia01:08
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sstchur_kristjan_: isn't that just removing and then adding the same module?01:09
kristjan_sstchur_: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and add DISABLED_MODULES="nv"01:09
kristjan_sstchur_: lsmod part was for other person01:09
sstchur_kristjan_: oh ok01:09
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sstchur_kristjan_: so let me see if I understand... it's still trying to use the older "nv" module when I reboot, so adding "nv" to disabled modules will ensure that it uses the newer?01:10
iainkristjan_ excellent i've found the 'module soundcore' unfortunately I'm getting 'module is in use'01:10
iainwill muting the system fix it do you think?01:10
kristjan_sstchur_: don't know what it is ;)01:10
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kristjan_iain: I guess where has to be other way to restart sound, try #ubuntu01:11
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iainkristjan> thanks for your help. If you're ever in Edinburgh I owe you a drink. ;-)01:11
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mojojojochemicalvamp : did you get my input?01:12
chemicalvampmojojojo no im sorr i was helping somebody on a side channel01:13
mojojojoits ok01:13
kristjan_iain: but I haven't really helped you much01:13
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phil000000000000wenas01:14
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phil000000000000alguien podria ayudarme en como cambiar los programas que se inician con kubuntu?01:14
stofthow do I reload .bashrc in the same session (without exiting/opening a new session)?01:14
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mojojojochemicalvamp : well now its in process of writing inode tables 366/597 and not showing in fdisk -l list yet01:14
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stoft!es01:15
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:15
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chemicalvampmojojojo so you want to format a external hard drive, please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L)01:15
qazhi ....I can't play *.avi and *.mpeg and all codecs on Kubuntu 7.04 , I want help01:16
chemicalvamp!multimedia01:16
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications01:16
MenaHey is there a channel for ktorrent01:16
khaije1stoft: source .bashrc || . bashrc01:16
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chemicalvampmojojojo the "sudo" is important01:16
stoftthnx khaije101:17
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wolferinewhat do I need to install a new USB printer/scanner?01:17
khaije1stoft: np, you just need to 'source01:17
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stoft:)01:17
khaije1' it the period and the command source are equivalent01:18
mojojojochemicalvamp : yes i know, where to pastebin?01:18
chemicalvamp!paste01:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:18
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qazI want codecs for kubuntu01:18
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chemicalvampqaz please read the !multimedia01:19
Otrayogo to mplayer.hu and download codecs-essential01:19
qazI have kaffine01:19
ShiftedBeefI know automatix2 will work, but I had bad luck with that.01:19
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef wb, did you get it?01:19
jbruckmanhey i'm trying to use k3b to make a backup copy of a game CD i own, so i don't have to use the bought version to play games with(i'm paranoid about scratches?). Anyway, does anyone have any info on this using k3b?01:19
ShiftedBeefCan't sem to copy and paste.01:19
Otrayomy feisty upgrade keeps failing coz of problems with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted, any ideas?01:20
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mojojojo!paste01:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:20
ShiftedBeefAlso there is a file on the fable game preventing me from modifying permissions.01:20
wolferinewhat app can I use for scanning images ??01:20
chemicalvampShiftedBeef do you have permission to access the disk? we did kdesu konqueror to access it as root01:20
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Otrayowolferine: kooka01:21
ShiftedBeefYes, we made it that far.01:21
drknshello fellas01:21
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ShiftedBeefI have songs that I'm able to play, but cannot move them.01:21
chemicalvampmojojojo paste the output into the pastebin website, hit paste and copy the url from the addressbar01:21
drknsi am still trying to set up my wireless pcmci card01:21
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Otrayodrkns, what you using? ndiswrapper?01:21
drknsi have set up ndiswrapper and loaded the proper drivers and can see my AP network01:21
chemicalvampShiftedBeef do you still have kdesu konqueror open?01:22
drknsbut nothing beyind that01:22
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ShiftedBeefYes.01:22
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drknswpa_supplicant wont start and i cant register to Ap01:22
chemicalvampShiftedBeef right click on the hdb1 folder and click pproperties01:22
ShiftedBeefGot it.01:22
drknsyep this is the situation right now01:22
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Otrayoanyone done a feisty upgrade with the new upgrade tool yet?01:23
chemicalvampShiftedBeef theres 3 drop boxes, set them all to "can view & modify content"01:23
Morpheus_74Hello All. I just did a fresh install of fiesty and I'm having some display issues.  I cannot get the refresh rate to 85.  Any ideas?01:23
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drknsi can see my network double click it and comes up and i put in my wpa pass but it wont get added to the list or no internet01:23
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qazwhere is codecs for fiesty?01:24
Otrayoif you can see your network the at least you're done with the hard part01:24
chemicalvampShiftedBeef you may also want to click the apply changes to subfolders and their contentscheck box01:24
Aloneadrkns: you using KNetworkManager?01:24
ShiftedBeef"Could not change permissions for /mnthdb1."01:24
Otrayoqaz, there are codecs for everything01:24
chemicalvamp!multimedia>qaz01:24
ShiftedBeef"Could not change permissions for /mnt/hdb1." was the error.01:24
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drknssmtg called kwlan is coming up01:24
sstchur_how come everytime I try to play a DVD with Kaffeine it said "Source can't be read.. maybe you don't have enough rights, etc..." ?01:25
Otrayosstchur, encrypted dvd?01:25
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blainHowdy folks.  New to kubuntu, but around debian for a while.01:25
Aloneadrkns: that would be the same program. I could not get it to work, so I use wlassistant instead.01:25
chemicalvampShiftedBeef in konsole run "chown NAME:NAME /mnt/hdb1" reaplce name with your user name01:25
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drknshimm i will try that now01:25
sstchur_Otrayo: I don't know (don't know much about this stuff).. they're just normal DVDs I bought at Target01:25
blainAny idea why there aren't any reasonably usable podcatchers available for ubuntu?01:26
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huyterhey guys, is very problematic the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04??01:26
sstchur_Otrayo: I'm not trying to rip them or anything... just play them01:26
jbruckman!raw01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
Otrayosstchur_: you need to install libdvdcss. The dvds are encrypted01:26
Otrayoeven if you're just trying to play them you still need libdvdcss afaik01:26
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chemicalvamp!info raw01:26
stoftchemicalvamp: if it's Feisty, does hdb1 still exist? I thought they were going to change the names to /dev/sd*01:26
hitmanWilly!dvd | sstchur_,01:26
ubotuPackage raw does not exist in feisty01:26
Morpheus_74Can someone help me configure my xorg for fiesty?01:26
ubotusstchur_,: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:26
ShiftedBeef"chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/hdb1': Read-only file system"01:26
drknsdo i have to uninstall kwlan????????01:27
stofthuyter: I just upgraded, no major problems what I can tell, but haven't really tested everything yet.01:27
sstchur_Otrayo: thanks!01:27
Otrayosstchur_: no problem :)01:27
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Otrayoanyone else getting this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)01:27
blainhuyter -- only problem I had was the servers were really hammered.01:27
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Otrayoi got the file via wget and managed to (un)gunzip it no problem01:27
chemicalvampstoft hda for master, hdb for slave, same applies for sda01:28
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huyterthanks, stoft & blain, i still remebered the catastrofic upgrade from 6.06 to 6.1001:28
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aftermathk3b fails at international filenames :(01:29
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aftermathI've ruined 3 dvds before I just decided to take out those songs01:29
ShaddoxHi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?01:29
chemicalvampShiftedBeef i dont know how linux handles ntfs, i never tried it... if i where you i would install windows, move all your files over to it, and format your back-up drive to fat3201:29
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mojojojochemicalvamp : sorry for the delay but i am not getting a url after paste!01:30
chemicalvampShiftedBeef then move it all back01:30
ShiftedBeefNOt a bad idea.01:30
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chemicalvampShiftedBeef there could be an issue between readin/writing to a ntfs disk.. but i KNOW linux can read/write to a fat32 partition01:31
OtrayoShiftedBeef: of you can try the linux-ntfs project01:31
ShiftedBeefOk, well, thanks again for your help, I never made it this far.01:31
mojojojochemicalvamp : getting an index file.01:31
wolferineNTFS + linux == easy01:31
Tired_I need to get at shared drives on my XP box.  What should I be googling to learn how to do that?01:31
mojojojochemicalvamp : file:///var/tmp/kdecache-mojojojo/krun/19580.0.01:32
wolferineops, I mean !=01:32
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ShaddoxHi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?01:32
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chemicalvampmojojojo go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ paste in your output into the box, click the paste! button below the text box, the page will refresh.. copy the url from the address bar and paste it in here01:33
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foxxdpkg refuses to remove anything, stating there's a EOF after field name `' in /var/lib/dpkg/available01:33
foxxAny way to fix it without a complete reinstall?01:33
chemicalvampmojojojo like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16934/01:33
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Morpheus_74Can anyone help me configure my xorg file?01:34
chemicalvampMorpheus_74 for?01:34
AloneaMorpheus_74: what are you configing?01:35
Morpheus_74Xubuntu fiesty.01:35
AloneaMorpheus_74: I mean. what. like, add resolutions?01:35
foxxSo, any way to reinstall dpkg without a system reinstall?01:36
Morpheus_74Alonea: the refresh rate.  I can get the resolution to 1024 X 768 (what I want), but cannot get the refresh rate to 85 Hz.01:37
chemicalvampfoxx what you mean like "sudo apt-get remove dpkg" - "sudo apt-get install dpkg"01:37
Aloneashould just change your res to 85@1024x76801:37
foxxchemicalvamp: something tells me that's not going to work, it's complaining about the /var/lib/dpkg/available being screwed up01:37
foxxBut I'll try it out01:38
drknshello back again01:38
drknsnow thank you very much because first time i managed to get connected with wireless assistant01:38
drkns#ping01:38
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Morpheus_74Alonea: So where the resolutions are listed in the xorg file, I just add the refresh rate to the resolution?01:38
drknshello01:38
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AloneaMorpheus_74: thats how I have seen other people do them01:38
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drknsi managed to get to network now and i am using wireless01:39
Aloneadrkns: no problem. I am sure they will fix the knetworkmanager eventually01:39
Morpheus_74Alonea: Thanks. I'll give it a tryl.01:39
drknswlassistant works fine but it is with wep only01:39
just-this-timehow do I do samba browsing in kde01:39
hyperspacewierd .. just went and picked up my notebook that i had upgraded @ the office from home, rebooted it worked fine01:39
drknsalonea thank01:39
drknss01:39
hyperspacenow i get a fsck error01:39
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hyperspaceno such uuid01:39
drknsi need to have wpa to work since i am going to implement kubuntu on the whole company network all the stations and servers01:40
chemicalvampmojojojo hello?01:40
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just-this-timedrkns01:41
just-this-timegood job01:41
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xjkxdoes kubuntu come with kde by default?01:41
chemicalvampTomTheGeek your the first local ive seen lol01:41
mojojojochemicalvamp : hi http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16937/01:41
khaije1what can cause a filesystem to disapear from a partition?01:42
TomTheGeekhas anyone installed kubuntu onto a fakeraid mirroed setup?01:43
chemicalvampmojojojo wich one is your external?01:43
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chemicalvampmojojojo also you cut off the output, thats not all of it01:44
hyperspacekhaije1: are you getting a uuid error?01:44
mojojojochemicalvamp : its not on there i thought you mentioned that earlier its a /dev/sdb01:44
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TomTheGeeki'm using the alternate install and trying to setup fake raid but it always says it can't find any raid partitions01:44
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mojojojochemicalvamp : you're right that is the end of it though01:45
chemicalvampTomTheGeek is it detecting all your discs?01:45
iainanyone here ever used USBuntu?01:45
drknsbye fellas01:45
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chemicalvampmojojojo "sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1" then "sudo mount -t (file system) /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb101:46
mojojojochemicalvamp : its formatting as we speak it is now writing inode tables 573/59701:46
TomTheGeekyes it sees the discs as sda and asb01:46
TomTheGeekand I can format them fine01:46
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khaije1hyperspace: i was getting a fsck exit 1 error before, but after trying to fix it, i managed to make my ext3 fs disapear from it's partition01:46
chemicalvampTomTheGeek i never used raid before.. but why would you need fakeraid if your discs work?01:47
khaije1hyperspace: it's still there, but i was half awake are did a few disk ops including maximize (i think this is the one that did it) now it shows as an empty partition01:47
TomTheGeeki want to set them up in a mirrored configuration01:47
chemicalvampohh i see01:47
TomTheGeekit's two 250 gb drives01:48
Jack111hey can sb help?when boot entries comig up, the boot screen suddenly stops, saying looking for journal;01:48
Jack111if i start recovery sessions it says the same plus, soft lock detected on home and BUG01:48
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hyperspacekhaije1: yea trying to fix mine too hehe remotely restarted dist-update on this notebook01:48
xjkxby default, what kubuntu comes to burn audio cds?01:48
hyperspacexjkx: k3b is nice01:48
chemicalvampTomTheGeek lol 1/2 a terabyte..... cmon now is that really neccisary?01:49
xjkxhyperspace, i know k3b is nice, but would you tell me if its comes by DefaulT ?01:49
chemicalvamp!ati | TomTheGeek01:49
ubotuTomTheGeek: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:49
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chemicalvampTomTheGeek oops01:49
TomTheGeeki'm gonna mirror them, so only 250 gb01:49
LjLxjkx: i think gnomebaker is default in ubuntu. k3b is the kubuntu default01:49
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chemicalvamp!raid | TomTheGeek01:49
ubotuTomTheGeek: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO01:49
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xjkxljl i heard you would have to install k3b by yourself01:50
khaije1hyperspace: was yours due to a uuid problem? i think that is what happened initially, but in trying to fix it i now have a far weirder problem01:50
MenaHi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent01:50
hyperspacekhaije1: yes uuid problem01:50
hyperspacekhaije1: know where to find proper uuids?01:50
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khaije1hyperspace: did you do the over-the-wire dist-upgrade from fiesty?01:51
Tired_why does the link in the topic redirect me to non-Kubuntu pages?01:51
MenaHi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent01:51
TomTheGeekubotu: I've gone through the first how to that you linked to and it crashes at step 501:51
LjLxjkx: oh, wait, i thought you actually asked this question in #ubuntu, so what i meant was to tell you about gnomebaker really... =) but no, if you type "apt-cache rdepends k3b", it mentions kubuntu-desktop, so that would mean it's installed by default01:51
hyperspacekhaije1: yes and was interrrupted due to remote box changing resolv.conf after jumping on a random wifi network and being disconnected lol01:51
khaije1hyperspace: it doesn't really matter atm since the MBR refuses to admit there is a filesystem there at all01:51
MenaTomTheGeek, ubotu its just a bot sysyem for the channel01:52
khaije1hyperspace: haha that sucks!01:52
xjkxLjL, thanks01:52
TomTheGeekoh thanks, mena01:52
hyperspacekhaije1: ye ill get through it lol01:52
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hyperspacekhaije1: but yes it does suck01:52
MenaTomTheGeek, you are welcome01:52
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MenaHi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent01:52
xjkxLjL i have no buntu here, would you check if gnomebaker comes by default on ubuntu, would be off topic but as you mentioned... xD01:52
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LjLxjkx: don't think so. gnomebaker isn't depended upon by any other package, apparently01:53
chemicalvamp!ubotu01:53
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:53
wolferinei just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"01:53
xjkxLjL, thanks01:53
LjLxjkx: i think Nautilus itself can burn CDs, though, if i'm not too mistaken... (KDE user here)01:53
Tired_Hmm.  IS Adept the Kubuntu equivalent for Aptitude?01:54
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khaije1hyperspace: mine ran normally afaik, but on reboot i was welcomed to a brand new *problem*! i knew it couldn't have just been me w/ the uuid problem. the busted machine in question is at home, do you have any advice for when i get back to try w/ the missing filesystem?01:54
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chemicalvampTired_ kubuntu has both01:54
Tired_where do I find aptitude in the default install?01:54
LjLxjkx: yes01:54
LjL!info nautilus-cd-burner01:54
ubotunautilus-cd-burner: CD Burning front-end for Nautilus. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 191 kB, installed size 2792 kB01:54
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chemicalvampTired_ adept is a lil easyer for broswing if ya ask me01:54
hyperspacekhaije1: my first reboot into feisty was np, then brought it home and the problem was brought to my attention01:54
LjLxjkx: and that's depended upon by ubuntu-desktop01:54
xjkxLjL, altough it doesnt burn audio :P01:54
Tired_lol, I'm getting confused, cuz the link in the topic directs you to use Aptitude01:55
xjkxLjL, would you check serpentine? maybe it comes with serpentine, which burns audio01:55
Tired_but I can only find Adept01:55
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LjLxjkx: i suppose it doesn't, which would explain why most people get gnomebaker or (more often) k3b ;)01:55
xjkx:D01:55
chemicalvampTired_ "sudo apt-get install (package name)"01:56
LjLxjkx: you hit it, ubuntu-desktop depends on serpentine01:56
xjkxxD thanks01:56
xjkxLjL, just let me know what command  you using, apt-cache search package |grep depend ?01:56
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Tired_chemicalvamp: I'd rather not deviate from the instructions until I have a working base system  :/01:56
MenaHi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent01:56
LjLxjkx: no, "apt-cache rdepends <package>", which gives you something more interesting - the package that have that package as a dependency01:56
mojojojochemicalvamp : I got this output,  mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist01:57
chemicalvampTired_ what does the instructions say?01:57
LjLxjkx: even more interesting (though i didn't even need to use it now) is "apt-cache --recurse rdepends <package"01:57
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LjLxjkx: there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com for when you don't have an installation available01:57
xjkxAwesome, thank you01:57
Tired_"sudo aptitude install <packagename>"01:57
chemicalvampmojojojo is the power on? is it pluged in correctly? and lastly is the port its connected to proerly installed01:57
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chemicalvampTired_ apt-get is the same thing01:58
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Tired_then they all follow with "sudo aptitude whatever" with instructions to see Aptitude instructions if you have trouble01:58
MenaNevrmind all i got it heheh sorry :)01:59
MenaThanks,Bye01:59
chemicalvampTired_ what are you installing?01:59
Tired_Feisty01:59
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chemicalvampTired_ download the iso, its faster in the long run, and its garunteed to work.. last time i used the upgrade tool it took me 6 hours and it didnt work, messed everything up02:00
mojojojochemicalvamp: yes all is fine its just that it is still in the formatting process, maybe this is why, it has been a while though02:00
xjkxLjL, i couldnt find kubuntu mentioned here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k3b&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all02:00
chemicalvampmojojojo how big is the drive?02:00
xjkxwhat have i done wrong :)02:00
mojojojochemicalvamp: 80G02:01
Tired_I have the iso...i've installed the basic system, and now I'm grabbing the rest of the parts02:01
chemicalvampmojojojo are you low-level formatting it?02:01
Tired_this is a brand new install on a brand new computer, not an upgrade02:01
wolferinei just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"02:01
chemicalvampTired_ oh ok02:01
chemicalvampTired_ when you want a package and its dependancies installed "sudo apt-get install (package)"02:02
Tired_i just don't know what I'm doing  :)02:02
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mojojojochemicalvamp: I am not sure, but this is the current output, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir02:02
LjLxjkx: nothing, packages.ubuntu.com isn't as powerful as apt-cache, it won't give you reverse dependencies - so it only lists packages that k3b depends upon, not vice versa02:02
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Tired_what I really want is Firefox, so I can sync my bookmarks back and get the instructions I'd bookmakred before02:02
xjkxaww, sure, will have to check on *buntu xD02:03
chemicalvampTired_ type these into konsole "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install firefox"02:03
LjLxjkx: feel free to just keep asking me as long as i'm online, if you don't have an ubuntu system easily accessible02:03
xjkxLjL, i am on debian here, would it be possible to apt-get update a *buntu list and check ?02:03
xjkxsource list i mean02:04
chemicalvampTired_ then you may wnt to update everything so do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:04
LjLxjkx: yes it would, but be careful to not end up *installing* ubuntu packages on your debian by mistake... that, of course, wouldn't make your debian happy *at all* :)02:04
Tired_do I need a dist-upgrade from a feisty cd I downloaded this week?02:04
LjL!final | Tired_02:04
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xjkxSure ;) where can i get the buntu's sourcelist? :DD02:04
LjL!easysource > xjkx    (xjkx, see the private message from Ubotu)02:05
ubotuTired_: If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.02:05
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Tired_i just downloaded the released CD the other day (after I saw it on slashdot)02:05
xjkxThanks !02:05
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Tired_installed it on a bare drive02:05
LjLTired_: there's been no updates yet since the official final release02:06
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jttljl i was looking for that info thanks02:06
Tired_ok, so no need for dist-upgrade, then02:06
LjLno02:07
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Tired_i thought it seemed kinda early for updates02:07
LjLanyway Tired_, if you're using a standard ubuntu or kubuntu installation (i.e. GUI and all), you'll be notified of any available upgrades from the GUI itself02:07
LjLat least if you have the needed repositories enabled, which you should02:07
Search4Lancergrrrrr...... since the upgrade, no coloring works in OpenOffice.org spreadsheets! none of the cells in this spreadsheet that are supposed to have background colors do.... they're still set to, but the color doesn't actually show up02:07
Tired_oh?  where will it tell me?  *complete kubuntu virgin here*02:07
LjLyes, it's probably a bit early, and keep in mind anyway that updates will be restricted to 1) security fixes 2) very serious bugs, at any rate02:07
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LjLTired_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and pastebin it, i can tell you if it looks ok02:08
s17lanshello02:08
chemicalvamp!hi02:08
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:08
s17lansi need some help with a make command for an ftp server02:08
s17lans:)02:09
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Tired_one sec02:09
jtts17lans, dont ask  just come right out a  ask :-)02:09
jttdont ask to ask that is02:10
s17lansim kinda new to linux world so its kinda weird02:10
s17lans:)02:10
Tired_!pastebin02:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:10
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mojojojochemicalvamp: i tried fdisk -l again but it wont complete output and other shell is stuck on, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir, and the drive light is busy red, any ideas?02:11
Search4Lancerso.... should I be reporting this as a bug, or....?02:11
mojojojochemicalvamp: oh its done02:11
Tired_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16940/ <- /etc/apt/sources.list02:11
Doctor_Nick!gutsy02:12
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+102:12
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Doctor_Nick!kdevelop02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
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LjL!info kdevelop > Doctor_Nick02:13
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ubuntuanyone here use 'Light-on' dvd drives?02:13
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s17lanshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16941/plain/02:13
chemicalvampWOHOO finaly.. check it out http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimatewowgamingexperience2sc.jpg02:14
ubuntuwondering on the reliability of them02:14
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s17lansthats the steps of setup-compile02:14
LjLs17lans: err...? you're trying to *compile* proftpd manually?02:14
s17lansim stuck to the make command02:14
s17lanshmmm y02:14
LjL!info proftpd | s17lans, it's packaged02:14
ubotus17lans, it's packaged: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB02:14
LjL!ftpd02:14
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP02:14
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ubuntuwow that rocks chemicalvamp02:15
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LjLs17lans: the place you get software from is the Ubuntu repositories. resorting to compiling is only for when you really cannot find a package neither in the official repository nor in (hopefully good) third party ones02:15
delphineguys what about beryl stability?02:15
MinceRit would be nice to be able to use gtk themes in qt applications :)02:15
LjL!beryl > delphine    (delphine, see the private message from Ubotu)02:15
LjL!software > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)02:15
LjL!packages > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)02:15
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chemicalvampubuntu i spent way too much on it02:15
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Tired_does Adept keep a log anywhere?  it gave me an error, but it doesn't say what or why?02:16
ubuntuI heard on the radio that 3,000 dollar HD's in 2 years are worth around $40002:16
ubuntu$1000 HD's would be worth $20002:17
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ubuntuthats why I say away from the TV section..............02:17
ubuntuthe temptation is toooo great02:17
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ubuntuthe picture is outstanding02:18
BluesKajHDD's used to be a buck a gig , now they're 50 cents / gig02:18
xjkxLjL, does kubuntu has a different sources.list than ubuntu? Just curious02:18
ubuntuI say who cares what it is worth, as long as it fits the need......02:18
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BluesKajHidef won't come down that much , ubuntu02:19
Tired_what is libgdome?02:19
chemicalvampubuntu do i need a 50 something inch hdtv to play wow on?02:19
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ubuntuI remember when they were buck a meg02:19
ubuntuYES!!!02:19
ubuntulol02:19
Tired_or rather libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a ?02:19
chemicalvamplol uh huh02:19
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[Al] Hlo. I upgraded to feisty using Adept and now kdm doesn't output. It says it starts successfully and it switches to tty7 but there's nothing on screen.02:20
[Al] Actually before anyone says anything I just realised it's probably my drivers!02:20
LjLxjkx: nope02:21
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txwikinger[Al] : Are there any error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?02:21
lupulhow do i start a shell script? plese :D02:21
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wolferinehow do I get my scanner to work (I have my Epson printer setup already) ?02:22
vinces1979lupul ./filename02:22
lupulok02:22
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lupulso i'm trying to start cube but it doesn't02:22
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LinuxRox_during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?02:22
Tired_!package libgdome202:22
lupulbad syntax02:22
vinces1979wolferine: xsane02:22
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wolferinevinces1979, its not seeing the device, just my USB webcam02:22
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vinces1979lupal: whats in your shell script02:22
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vinces1979wolferine: lsusb02:23
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wolferinepasetebin?02:23
vinces1979please02:23
soulrider!easysource02:23
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:23
lupulit'a a game "cube"02:23
lupulsome shooter02:23
lupulbad substitution says there02:23
wolferinehttp://pastebin.ca/45202502:23
[Al] yep it was nvidia drivers02:24
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[Al] My bad -- I'm not quite awake enough02:24
ubuntuhey guys I cant seem to get my HDD mounted02:24
vinces1979wolferine: what make?02:24
[Al] o/02:24
ubuntuI'm on live cd02:24
wolferineEpson CX500002:24
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wolferinebut I am using the 4800 driver02:25
chemicalvampubuntu "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1"02:25
Search4Lancerholy jesus any little thing I try to do in OOo locks it up02:25
ubuntuahhh hah02:25
ubuntuthanks02:25
chemicalvampubuntu "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda102:25
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ubuntuwhoaa02:25
ubuntuwhich one?02:25
chemicalvampubuntu its a linux hdd right?02:25
chemicalvampnoth02:25
chemicalvampboth*02:26
vinces1979wolferine: all-in-one?02:26
ubuntuahh ok02:26
wolferineyes02:26
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mojojojochemicalvamp: its done formatting, should be ext3 now but i still cant find the drive anywhere except in gui, gparted.02:27
chemicalvampmojojojo "should be"? doesnt it say?02:28
Aloneasegmentation fault means what in the terminal? and the caps lock button blinking?02:28
Tired_now that I have Feisty installed, do I ever need the CD again?02:28
ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:28
ubuntuI dont know what the address my HD is02:28
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vinces1979wolferine: what does xsane say?02:29
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ShaddoxHi everyone.02:29
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ShaddoxCan someone tell me what it means when you get a segmentation fault, and then your caps lock button starts blinking on and off, and then your laptop stops responding completely?02:29
mojojojochemicalvamp: its not in fdisk -l02:29
chemicalvampubuntu could you run "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L) and pastebin the whole output02:29
wolferinedoesnt see it, just sees my USB webcam02:29
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chemicalvampmojojojo did you use sudo?02:30
wolferineBus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.02:30
ubuntuyep02:30
wolferinethat one02:30
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vinces1979wolferine: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-387616.html02:30
vinces1979wolferine: for 6600 but.02:31
ubuntu!Pastebin02:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:31
mojojojochemicalvamp: yes i can see all the other partitions02:31
Tired_what happens if Adept chokes on a package?  will it try to re-download it?02:31
Linux_Galoreyay for people who out new kernels up on the repo without adding a matching restricted modules package02:31
Linux_Galoreput*02:31
chemicalvampTired_ "sudo apt-get -f install"02:31
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16942/02:31
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Linux_Galoreevery machine wont boot today, isnt that great02:32
chemicalvampTired_ that will fix anything broken02:32
Tired_chemicalvamp: I'm sorta in the middle of a huge Adept session, and it shows errors on one of the libs02:32
xjkxLjL, when i looked for mplayer, i had no result to any *-desktop, so mplayer doesnt come with any buntu? what does it come with then?02:32
Tired_I can do that after?02:32
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chemicalvampTired_ ok, just type tha in when t finishes02:32
Tired_sweet  :)02:32
wolferinevinces1979,02:32
chemicalvampubuntu this is just showing your slave drive?..02:33
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wolferinehow do I restart it, once I edit settings?02:33
Linux_Galoreis there a restricted modules package for the new kernel ie 2.6.17-37 yet ?02:33
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ubuntushouldnt be, my slave isnt hooked up02:34
vinces1979wolferine: I would rec reboot02:34
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wolferinei got it02:34
wolferinepermissions02:34
ubuntualthough, it is 250 also02:34
vinces1979nice02:34
ShaddoxUgh.02:34
ShaddoxHi everyone.02:34
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wolferineyeah, was simple02:34
wolferineill have to add a tutorial about it02:34
vinces1979usually is02:34
chemicalvampubuntu usually hda is master, and hdb is slave.. hdc etc.. etc...02:34
ShaddoxDoes anyone know why "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" returns "Segmentation fault" and locks up my laptop with the capslock light blinking?02:34
wolferineremind me tmr if you would :)02:34
ubuntuhmmm02:34
kendrickok, this is odd.. my wife's Thinkpad X41 laptop, running edgy, has lost its ethernet02:34
wolferinehehe02:34
dave_mchey all how do you add a new repo via konsole02:34
ubuntudouble checking02:34
kendrickifconfig -a now shows her wired network as _eth1_, not eth0... and wireless NIC as _eth2_, instead of eth102:35
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Linux_GaloreI woke up this morning to find all my Nvidia machine hang and go to the command line isnt that great, seems someone put a new updated patched kernel on the repo without a matching restricted modules package02:35
kendrickifup eth0 fails02:35
chemicalvampubuntu why are you running the live cd? is there another problem?02:35
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dave_mcanyone know how to add a new repo via konsole?02:35
kendricki googled, and the closest i found was someone shipped their thinkpad in to IBM and the repair folks replaced their motherboard02:36
jttI found some nvidia glx related bugs. But to document them I need to get back to the native install of the live cd on 4/17. i.e. what commands do i use to revert to totally native X that would have installed from the Kubuntu 7.04 release02:36
vinces1979dave_mc: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:36
kendrick(1) her network worked since her laptop returned from repair, and (2) ifconfig -a shows the same MAC addrs as before :(02:36
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dave_mcthanks you vinces02:36
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vinces1979dave_ms: np02:36
kendrickany ideas?02:36
wolferinevinces1979, one more thing02:36
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wolferinewhen I scan in xsane, and I want .jpgs, what do I do?02:37
wolferineimport into Gimp?02:37
vinces19791 sec02:37
kendrickgimp can scan via sane02:37
vinces1979wolferine:in file name just remave to .jpg02:37
wolferinek02:37
vinces1979rename02:37
wolferinewasnt sure if it was taht easy02:38
wolferinethanks02:38
wolferineill give it a try02:38
vinces1979usually is :)02:38
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wolferinenot always :)02:38
wolferine:P02:38
mojojojochemicalvamp: youthink it would be ok to format it to fat32 now02:38
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vinces1979wolferine: or on main window there is type drop down02:38
Tired_is there any way to see te load on the repository I am using?02:38
wolferinein xsane?02:39
DboygggggHey fellas. How do I go about getting my sound card to work?02:39
vinces1979yeah02:39
kendricknoone seen this eth weirdness? :02:39
kendrick:(02:39
chemicalvampmojojojo if you can, you should be more worried bout getting linux to detect it frst02:39
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LinuxRox_during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?02:39
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jtt!info nvidia >jtt02:40
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Ace2016how long would it take to download  ~125 GB at 20kb/s ???02:41
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DboygggggAce2016: a long time02:41
coreymon77LinuxRox_: pastebin?02:41
kendrick125 * 1024 * 1024 / 20 * 8 ?02:41
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kendrickseconds02:42
kendrick:)02:42
hyperspaceI have my /etc/fstab.pre-uuid in hand as well as my fstab that cant find the uuid's... how do i find the proper uuid's for the new fstab? these are reiserfs partitions02:42
kendrickwhoops, that's megs :)02:42
coreymon77LinuxRox_: do you mean pastebin02:42
LinuxRox_no it was something on launchpad02:42
coreymon77oh02:42
coreymon77launchpad02:42
LinuxRox_the box said the following files failed to upgrade/install clk here to report...02:42
Arwenhyperspace, 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid'02:42
kendrickif i've calc'd right, 1702 years?02:43
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hyperspaceArwen: can i then just manuall edit my fstab to the correct entries?02:43
LinuxRox_i wrote the locations of the 2 log files..then tried to clk the link but cuz of the upgrade in process it didnt open firefox and then rebooted02:43
coreymon77LinuxRox_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs02:43
Arwenhyperspace, yes02:43
coreymon77LinuxRox_: is that what you mean02:43
ubuntuyeah it not even plugged in02:43
LinuxRox_ill try that thanks02:43
DboygggggI really don't know what to do. my sound card is not functioning.02:43
ubuntucould it be the jumpers/02:44
ubuntu?02:44
LjLxjkx: no mplayer doesn't come by default, kaffeine comes by default on kubuntu02:44
ubuntuwhat kind of sound card Dboyggggg02:44
Ace2016kendrick: whats the 8 for?02:44
kendrick20kbps is bits per second02:45
kendrickso 125 GB is 128 * 8 Gb02:45
Dboygggggubuntu: I really don't know. You see, this is not my computer, I'm trying to set it up for somebody02:45
ubuntuahhh02:45
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hyperspaceArwen: my uuid looks correct in fstab but /var/log/fsck/checkfs reports it as failed to open02:47
ubuntuis it a fresh install?02:47
BluesKajDboyggggg, type 'lspci' in the console/terminal02:47
Arwenhyperspace, hmm... no idea then, sounds like a bigger problem - you could switch back to device-based uuid02:47
Dboyggggg00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)02:47
Dboyggggg00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)02:48
Dboyggggg00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)02:48
Dboyggggg00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)02:48
Dboyggggg00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)02:48
Dboyggggg00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)02:48
Dboyggggg00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)02:48
Dboyggggg01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)02:48
Dboygggggthat's the result of lspci02:48
hyperspaceArwen: any specific method of doing that? or just removing uuid and replacing with /dev/sdax02:48
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ubuntumight want to use the pastebin dude02:48
Arwenhyperspace, replacing with /dev/blah02:48
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Dboygggggubuntu yeah.. well, sorry.02:48
DboygggggI know better, I just was lazy02:49
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ShaddoxHi everyone. Can someone help me with my bcm wireless driver, I tried NDIS but now it constantly gives me segmentation faults and locks my laptop up, so I can't use it anymore. X_x02:49
BluesKajyeah sorry folks , I should have mentioned pastebin02:49
Tired_I was never able to get any distro that had ever been touched by Debian to work on my 440 chipset system.02:49
Ace2016kendrick: kb/s = Kilobits per second or thousands of bits per second,  so its 125*1024*1024/20/60/60/15 (15 hours since isps have fair usage) = 122 days, which isn't that bad really02:49
kendrickoh02:49
kendrickhah whoops :)02:50
kendricki added an extra 1024 in there02:50
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ArwenAce2016, my ISP doesn't impose a 15 hr limit, lol02:50
Ace2016Arwen: its not 15 hours, its from 6pm to 11pm,, but it takes time to get back up to speed so i made it 1502:50
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Ace2016from 6pm to 11pm torrents and stuff are slow02:51
Arwenah02:51
Ace2016very slow, most of the time it stops completely02:51
ArwenAce2016, try encrypting your torrents?02:52
coreymon77btw02:52
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coreymon77i have alread upgraded to feisty, but im just curious02:52
coreymon77how much longer is edgy supported for02:52
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rjtany reason in windows my resolution was higher than in fiesty fawn? and also how to configure dell wireless02:53
Arwencoreymon77, 12 months02:53
coreymon7712 more months02:53
coreymon77?02:53
BluesKajDboyggggg, there should be more in that list...post in pastebin ..no audio controller is listed02:53
Arwenyeah, each release is 18 month support, 6.10 was released 6 months ago so that leaves 12 months02:53
Ace2016Arwen: then you loose all the speed from everything, then not even irc, or http traffic works, irc never connects and http speed drops to below 5kb/s, but by leaving it off i get to have http and irc at full speed02:53
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ArwenAce2016, huh02:54
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Arwenyour ISP sounds like a bad one, you oughta switch to one with a no limits policy02:54
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Tired_i just give my ISP more money when they get mad.  then they go away for a year or so.02:55
Ace2016Arwen: but ourside of that 5hrs slot torrent speeds are great and i can download however much i like :D average at 50gb a month02:55
xjkxwhats the name of that "add/remove" thing kubuntu has ?02:55
hyperspaceArwen: looks like switching to old fstab and replacing /dev/hdx w/ /dev/sdx is working02:55
xjkxWhat software is behind it?02:55
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Arwenxjkx, app-install02:56
kendrickand just blame XP for fucking something up02:56
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ubuntunever mind those 12 year olds in here02:57
ubuntulol02:57
Dboyggggg/msg BluesKaj02:57
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Dboygggggubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci02:57
Dboyggggg00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)02:57
Dboyggggg00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: stop!02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: stop!02:57
Dboyggggg00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)02:57
Dboyggggg00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)02:57
Dboyggggg00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)02:57
Dboyggggg00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)02:57
Dboyggggg00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)02:57
Dboyggggg01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: stop!02:57
Dboygggggkonversation = lol, I know. it sucks02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: stop!02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: stop!02:57
coreymon77Dboyggggg: pastebin it@02:57
Dboygggggcoreymon77: I didnt mean to do that02:57
ArwenBAN HIM02:57
Dboygggggpastebin isn't working02:58
coreymon77then use pastebin.ca02:58
coreymon77its a different pastebin02:58
Ace2016http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:58
Ace2016that works02:58
xjkxArwen, i installed app-install-data to test (on debian xD) and i cant find its binary :>02:58
Tired_is beryl going to be embarrassing on my FX 5200?02:59
Dboyggggghttp://pastebin.ca/45206302:59
Dboygggggok02:59
Dboygggggmy sound card won't work02:59
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BluesKajanyway Dboyggggg , looks like you have an onboard intel soundcard ... you may want to check for linux drivers on the intel site first , then search around03:00
coreymon77it seems that kubuntu doesnt see your soundcard03:00
Arwenxjkx, try "gnome-app-install"03:00
Ace2016Tired_: nope it runs great on mine03:00
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DboygggggBluesKaj:  no, it isn't onboard. it's a PCI sound card03:00
DboygggggI know it, because I can see it03:00
Dboygggggand the sound worked when this machine ran windows xp03:01
Tired_good.  i'd hate to think I'd wasted two hours with Adept to find it sucked03:01
coreymon77well, kubuntu isnt recognizing it03:01
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Dboygggggcoreymon77: yeah, I see that.03:01
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BluesKajDboyggggg,  if you can see the card , can you read the manufacturer ?03:02
DboygggggBluesKaj: well, that would mean that I would have to check inside the computer, because there is no sort of text on the back of the card.03:03
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Dboygggggit is plugged in, ya know03:03
Ace2016Tired_: how come it took two hours?03:03
Tired_i'm also getting Firefox at the same time03:04
Tired_and two hours and counting03:04
Ace2016its takign 2 hours to download?03:04
Tired_yep03:04
Tired_i assume the server must be busy03:04
Tired_frst saturday after a new release, maybe?03:05
ubuntuchemicalvamp: does this mean I'm screwed?03:05
Ace2016Tired_: the servers went down on thursday but they should be fine now03:05
ubuntuI need to backup03:05
Tired_wonder why it's so slow, then03:05
chemicalvampubuntu sorry i was minimized, does what mean your screwed03:06
ubuntuabout mounting my hard drive03:06
chemicalvampu can still mount it cant you03:06
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ubuntuthats my question03:07
chemicalvampsudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb103:08
chemicalvampcopy nd paste it03:08
ubuntuI dont have the knowledge to do this03:08
Tired_"C++ bindings for GDome2 DOM implementation"  What's gonna break if I don't have that?03:08
jttwhere on the kmenu is the restricted manager03:08
ubuntuI usually right click on a drive and click on 'mount'03:08
ubuntuand boom it works03:08
ubuntuk03:09
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Iwonder|toohey,noob question,are there *ubuntu releases that come with low resource using WM?03:09
chemicalvampubuntu but your on a live cd03:09
ubuntusweet it worked03:09
Tired_wo, Adept is tremendusly un-user-friendly03:09
Tired_errors with no way to explain, no way to cancel...03:10
ubuntutru-dat Tired_03:10
ubuntuhaha03:10
Tired_poor choice for default03:10
MinatakuHey, semi-unrelated, but: http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=39087 :303:10
coreymon77Tired_: kynaptic was so much better03:10
Tired_why is it not default?03:10
coreymon77Tired_: but apt is best03:10
chemicalvampubuntu your not going to have permissions to access certain areas of the partition, if you want full access to it, run "kdesu konqueror /mnt/hdb1"03:10
coreymon77Tired_: it doesnt exist anymore03:10
Tired_:/03:10
ubuntuI have a 2 gig flash disk to back up to03:11
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coreymon77Tired_: kynaptic was abbandoned for adept03:11
coreymon77Tired_: personally, i think apt is best03:11
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Tired_well, adept needs much polish before it's ready for prime time03:12
Tired_"Error" is not an acceptable error message03:12
coreymon77Tired_: lol03:12
Tired_might as well be "Something is wrong"03:12
chemicalvampTired_ did you ever run "sudo apt-get -f install" like i said?03:13
Tired_it's stil going, chem03:13
Tired_hasn't finished yet03:13
Tired_i will when it's done03:13
chemicalvampTired_ that will fix broken installs, and configure unconfigure packages03:13
chemicalvampahh i c03:13
Tired_i assume I have to do that in a konsole03:13
chemicalvampyup03:14
Tired_it's just that nothing freaks out a newbie like that kin of error message...nothing to Google03:14
Tired_google has 27 million hits for 'Error'03:15
coreymon77Tired_: another thing about konsole, its much more verbose03:15
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Tired_well, after this I doubt I'll be touching Adept again03:16
ukubuntuHere's a quickie, when booting, is there a way to change the kubuntu logo above the oscilating progress bar?03:16
mojojojochemicalvamp: i am trying to paste  tail /var/log/messages output but am not getting the url, getting index file instead !?03:16
coreymon77Tired_: if there is an error, its gonna tell you in full language exactly what went wrong03:16
Tired_i'd rather have more info I don't understand than not enough03:16
ShaddoxHi everyone.03:17
coreymon77Tired_: thats what you will get03:17
chemicalvampmojojojo so you cant copy the text, and paste it into the paste bin?03:17
ShaddoxI need help setting my wireless internet up.03:17
Tired_:)03:17
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ShaddoxCan someone help me?03:17
coreymon77Shaddox: sure03:17
coreymon77Shaddox: what card?03:17
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Shaddoxcoreymon: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller03:17
coreymon77Shaddox: oy!03:18
Shaddoxcoreymon77: I tried NDISWrapper and it keeps giving me segmentation faults and won't work.03:18
coreymon77!wifi > coreymon7703:18
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mojojojochemicalvamp: when i paste it opens up an index of file page, no url.03:18
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yonkeltroncould someone help me with my ThinkPad T60 and my malfunctioning brightness adjustment?03:19
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Ashexis it possible to move the volume bar from the center of the screen?03:19
yonkeltronAshex: really good questions03:20
Ashexheh03:20
AshexIt's just been irkin' me for the past few months03:20
yonkeltronAshex: for sure...03:20
chemicalvampmojojojo i dont know what to tell ya, pastebin always works for me03:20
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Ashexwhat?03:21
yonkeltronAshex: it upsets me that the volume bar is so huge and in the middle03:21
mojojojochemicalvamp: ok i'll just keep trying03:21
yonkeltronAshex: i wish it could be semi-transparent at least...something03:21
mojojojothanks03:21
Ashexhehe03:22
AshexI'm going to submit a request via launchpad03:22
Ashexthe mute doesn't work for me either :/03:22
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Lam_if i want a command to run at startup, what file would i put that command into?03:23
NoldoaranI have install, kde 4 (beta) from the repositories, but i'm still in kde 3.5.6. How do i run kde 4?03:23
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Doctor_Nickwhats so special about KDE4?03:24
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ubuntuchemicalvamp: what would I need to do if I cant drag and drop but certain things from by HDD to my flash drive?03:24
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RaytrayHrm, is there anywhere where I can find out why strigi 'start daemon' button isn't working?03:24
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xsisthello03:25
ubuntuI have the space03:25
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AshexLam_, ~/.kde/Autostart03:25
Lam_Ashex: ah thanks a lot03:25
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Doctor_Nickwhats a good mspaintish thing03:26
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ShiftedBeefgimp 2.0?03:26
xsistso hey how do you manually configure kdm?03:27
ShiftedBeefkrita looks good to me.03:27
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Ashexxsist, in what sense?03:27
chemicalvampubuntu you can "sudo cp from/directory to/directory" to copy, or replace cp with mv to move03:27
xsistlike editing the config file..03:27
Lord_Maynoth_42If anyone could help me please, I am about to go batty.. My NIC was detected and working fine(still does in xp) in xubuntu feisty, but it quit so I reformatted in kubuntu.  It says its an unknown device in hardware information.  I downloaded and installed the latest linux driver from realtek RTL8111B but it didn't do anything so I rebooted and it still says unknown device...03:27
chemicalvampubuntu or like i said run konqueror as root by running "kdesu konqueror"03:27
Doctor_Nickkdesu desu~03:28
ubuntucool thanks03:28
ubuntusorry for the nagging03:28
Noldoaranxsist: gimp is more like photoshop..03:28
ubuntu:o)03:28
xsistNoldoaran huh?03:29
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Noldoaranxstist: oh, wrong person... read your from one line while i was read the line bellow, sorry03:30
mojojojopaste!03:30
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justin64hello ;)03:31
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xsistso hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...03:31
xsistNoldoaran: its cool03:31
justin64anybody know how to fix this problem: "hdb: drive not ready for command"?03:32
chemicalvampubuntu lol dont worry about nagging i like helping when i can03:32
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xsistLord_Maynoth_42 does the live cd recognise you nic?03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42no, but it did03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42which is why I am going crazy03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42lol03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42I reformatted even03:33
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Lord_Maynoth_42it still works in xp03:33
xsistand nothing?03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42just fine03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42nadda03:33
xsistwhat model is it?03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42its a RTL8111b03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42real tek03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42I downloaded the latest drivers03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42even though it says the 2.6.20 kernel supports it03:34
BluesKajAC '97?03:35
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chemicalvampResults 1 - 10 of about 429,000,000 for error i guess this means we have alot of problems03:36
chemicalvampmisstell03:36
rjtcould someone help me out with intel pro wireless?03:36
bobbob1016I just upgraded to Feisty, but I can't connect wirelessly.  I had knetworkmanager working fine on Edgy, but now it doesn't seem to connect, I have WPA on my router, any advice?03:36
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 whats your card?03:37
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: bcm43**03:37
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jttxsist, the file you want to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf  MAKE a copy first and be careful03:37
chemicalvampcan you get on a wired connection?03:37
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I'm on it wired now03:37
CygnusX1Hello.  Installed Ubuntu Fiesty...all working nicely.  Installed Kubuntu-desktop...KDM comes up, but, when I try to login, the screen flashes briefly, and then, returns to KDM.  This happens whether I choose gnome or KDE sessions03:38
chemicalvampbobbob1016 see if wlan0 is in ifconfig -a03:38
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mojojojo!paste03:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:38
riggatone`how do you enable wlan?03:39
chemicalvampifconfig wlan0 up03:39
chemicalvampsudo that*03:39
xsistLord_Maynoth_42: i did a little searching and found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403362. hope it helps03:40
mojojojochemicalvamp: here is the output: sd 5:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x1007000003:40
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: there isn't a wlan0, there are two ethernets, and I'd guess eth0 is the one I'm using, and eth1 has a 169 ip, which from my XP troubleshooting experience is the ip when there isn't an ip03:40
xsistso hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...03:40
riggatone`no such device wlan003:40
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mojojojochemicalvamp: [17192144.640000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 003:41
Lord_Maynoth_42how do I compile with the kernel headers?03:41
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 windows troube shooting wont help you here ;)03:41
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chemicalvampmojojojo sprry im no guru, i dont know what to tell you with that one, im out of info03:42
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I figured as much, but that's the only other place I've seen 169.***.***.***03:42
jttxsist, the file you want to edit is  /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:42
jttxsist, the only kdm config i know about is kdmrc03:42
chemicalvampbobbob1016 thats a network address03:42
xsisthave, removed all extra resolutions but still have the same problem03:42
mojojojochemicalvamp: ok no worries, thanks03:43
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 theres a bug involvng wireless card, mines bugged too03:43
xsisthavnt tried kdmrc yet... thanks03:43
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jttxsist, there are some weird problems with nvidia restricted drivers I wont even go into what occurred with mine but I finally go it to work03:43
chemicalvampbobbob1016 where they work on edgy, but not feisty03:43
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: so what would you suggest?03:44
chemicalvamptry installing the windows driver maybe03:44
chemicalvampi did it and it didnt help03:44
chemicalvamp!ndiswrapper03:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:44
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Lord_Maynoth_42someone else said to use modprobe03:45
Lord_Maynoth_42what does it do03:45
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: you think a reinstall would work?  I have my home as a seperate partition03:45
jttLord_Maynoth_42, it loads the driver if it is not already loaded03:45
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riggatone`i have been trying to get my wireless to work on my delle1405 and i have gone as far as download the ieee and the 80211 files and when i go to do make install it tells me that i must put in duplicate=y, how do i fix this?03:45
jttLord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod and grep for your driver name03:45
Lord_Maynoth_42I am a n00b :C03:46
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: and the bcm43** sees the my router's ssid, it just sticks on 28% in knetworkmanager03:46
jttLord_Maynoth_42, ok  what is the name of the driver03:46
chemicalvampbobbob1016 hmm03:46
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: 28% as in connecting 28% done03:46
Lord_Maynoth_42RTL8111B03:46
justin64Help! All the Virtual consoles are outputting the message: "hdb: drive not ready for command". hdb is the CDROM and there's no disk in the drive. It seems (???) like Linux is constantly trying to mount it!03:46
chemicalvampbobbob1016 click it03:46
Lord_Maynoth_42realtek nic03:46
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chemicalvampLord_Maynoth_42 are you on feisty also?03:47
Lord_Maynoth_42yes03:47
FireJetHi, can anyone help me with my Feisty install?03:47
jttLord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod | grep -i real   see if you get any output03:48
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: Activation stage: Configuring Device03:48
bobbob1016you guys still there, not sure if that kicked me off or not03:48
chemicalvampLord_Maynoth_42 your card is bugged, its a known issue, my bug report is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10690703:48
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FireJethttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082159.003:48
jttLord_Maynoth_42, there you go a bug03:48
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: so do you think a reinstall of feisty will do it?03:48
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theringmasterI am in need of assistance03:49
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posingaspopular!ask | theringmaster03:49
ubotutheringmaster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:49
eljefecan anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??03:49
chemicalvampbobbob1016 doubt it03:49
riggatone`intel wireless and fiesty fawn is it possible?03:49
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: so should I wait for a bug fix?03:49
theringmasterMy new install of kubuntu fiesty doesn't show a shut-down screen03:49
FireJetMy new feisty install hangs at the loading screen, can anyone help fix this?03:49
themanmikehow do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?03:50
chemicalvampbobbob1016 "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"03:50
ses1959_question on ntfs i have a second hard with a back up of files form windows03:50
bobbob1016riggatone`: I'm not sure, my other laptop has the intel wireless, and it works, it's ubuntu, and I setup the wireless in edgy, not feisty03:50
jttFireJet, start it in recover mode and see where it stops03:50
FireJetjtt: OK, I'll be back in a sec.03:50
riggatone`edgy?03:50
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ses1959_it is usb and it states to open in new window when turned on but it does not open any thing03:50
bobbob1016riggatone`: edgy is the last version of ubuntu03:50
ses1959_how can mount ntfs in kubuntu03:51
riggatone`gr03:51
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: couldn't find wlan, I'm going to my repos now03:51
riggatone`so i shoudl get edgy and not run fiesty fawn?03:51
dacjisao,are you running kubuntu 7.04?03:51
bobbob1016riggatone`: no, I'm just saying it's a maybe03:51
ses1959_i did have sabayon and it worked03:51
riggatone`lol03:51
bobbob1016riggatone`: with a leaning to yes03:51
ses1959_have installed ng-303:51
eljefeses1959_: you need to install ntfg package... not sure what its called, something like ntf3g or something... google for it03:51
theringmasterMy kubuntu feisty doesn't show a shutdown screen03:51
chemicalvampses1959_ whats the drive's flag?03:52
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ses1959_how can i tell03:52
CygnusX1Does anyone have any ideas on perpetual KDM login screen after upgrade Ubuntu to Kubuntu?03:52
ses1959_should be hdb103:52
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chemicalvamptheringmaster your install is corrupted, please check md5sums of iso's before burning03:52
themanmikeanybody?03:52
theringmasterI did all the check i could do and the disk is fine03:53
chemicalvampses1959_ sudo fdisk -l (thats an L)03:53
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theringmasterI am not talking about a live cd though03:53
chemicalvamptheringmaster yes i know03:53
theringmasterI am sure that there is a way to fix this03:54
chemicalvamptheringmaster boot the cd you installed from, and check the cds integrity, from the boot menu03:54
FireJetjtt: "ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)" or something is where it seems to die.03:54
theringmasterI did that before I installed and all was good03:54
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: which repo do I need for wlanassistant, do you know/03:54
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bobbob1016?03:54
soulrider_bobbob1016: all repos come enabled by default now03:54
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: says can't find wlanassistant03:55
chemicalvampbobbob1016 try this, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wlassistant03:55
ses1959_ok have disk dev sdb 61.4 gb03:55
theringmasteruse aptitude instead of apt-get03:55
ses1959_id 7 hpfs ntfs03:55
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 not wlanassistan... wlassistant03:55
eljefecan anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??03:55
jttFireJet, do you know about pastebin?03:55
Tired_mmm, that was cute.  after Adept took all those hours, it crashed03:55
posingaspopulareljefe: what do you mean?03:55
posingaspopularyou can't add music?03:56
Tired_and, of course, apt-get works fine03:56
eljefei cannot add music, folders etc03:56
FireJetjtt: Yeah, but I'm only pasting one line...03:56
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posingaspopulareljefe: what are you using?03:56
posingaspopular!ipod03:56
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod03:56
chemicalvamptheringmaster no he doesnt want to do that03:56
jttFireJet, paste several line above the error also03:56
eljefekubuntu feisty (beta5 though :( )03:56
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: adept says it's installed03:56
Linux_Galoreeljefe: you dont add music by drag and drop anyway03:56
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eljefemy kubuntu final didn't want to install properyl03:57
eljefeLinux-Galore I do with RockBox03:57
chemicalvampbobbob1016 k-menu -> internet -> wireless assistant.. what oes it say03:57
posingaspopulareljefe: try using songbird as your music player,it syncs to my ipod video just fine03:57
ses1959_ok have fdisk and it shows boot * system hpfs/ntfs03:57
FireJetjtt: Well, it's a bit hard to remember all that information running from room to room...03:57
eljefeok i have Beta5 installed and nothing is setup; I just need to get this done NOW for a party :( and then tomorrow I can play with Songbird etc03:58
jttFireJet, is this feisty03:58
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: is started, and I clicked my ssid, then it said connection failed03:58
FireJetjtt: Yep.03:58
eljefebut the KDE automounter isn't allowing me to mount it with write permissions, not can I mount it via command line with rw permissions..03:58
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: it asked if I wanted to review teh settings, I did, and it has my wpa key03:59
eljefe" cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"03:59
jttFireJet, does it boot on live cd ok03:59
Linux_Galoreeljefe: type sudo -i  and copy a file over03:59
chemicalvampbobbob1016 you can click manual and input your info maunaly03:59
FireJetjtt: Nope.03:59
jttFireJet, same problem03:59
FireJetjtt: Had to use the alt. installer03:59
FireJetjtt: OK...03:59
Linux_Galoreeljefe: if it works its just a permissions problem for the user03:59
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eljefe" cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"03:59
chemicalvampbobbob1016 do you have encryption on?03:59
jttFireJet, alt installed ok04:00
eljefeno permissions are fine04:00
Linux_Galoreeljefe: I susepct you ipod isnt fat3204:00
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FireJetjtt: Yeah.04:00
themanmikehow do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?04:00
eljefenot permissions, it belongs to me04:00
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: stupid question, what do I put in for broadcast?04:00
chemicalvampsame as ip04:00
eljefeit is, I set it up with RockBox and it worked fine two days ago till Feisty (beta5 though)04:00
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jttFireJet, do you have any funny hardware in that machine04:01
eljefei've been using it for over a year like this04:01
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: and is domain the router, or mshome?04:01
FireJetjtt: Well, a new HDD and a new DVD burner...04:01
chemicalvampbobbob1016 you can get away with leavng it empty04:01
FireJetjtt: Is this going towards: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-ide@vger.kernel.org/msg03088.html ?04:01
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: still failed04:02
jttFireJet, perhaps  is the DVD a Lite-on04:02
chemicalvampbobbob1016 you need the routers correct IP04:02
FireJetjtt: So, then yes?04:02
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I have it04:02
FireJetjtt: HL-DS etc...04:03
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: and I put it in, and it didn't work04:03
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jttFireJet, disconnect the DVD and try to boot on LIVE cd04:03
djbaileyhow is everyone tonight04:03
Linux_Galoreeljefe: sudo konqueror  then goto  /media/ipod  and check the setup  ie right click on the ipod folder -> properties04:03
eljefenothing wants to work properly these days... sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdc2 /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/04:03
chemicalvampbobbob1016 like mine is 192.168.10.1 (this is what you put into gateway and primary DNS) and since im the 5th comp on this network my ip and broadcast is 192.168.10.504:03
jttFireJet, forget that  i must be crazy04:03
FireJetjtt: Will I still be able to use it later?04:04
Hasrat_USAjust finished dinner djbailey what's up with you04:04
FireJetjtt: I have another CD drive..04:04
jttFireJet, do you have two CD/DVD's04:04
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I did04:04
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FireJetjtt: Yeah, luckily ;D04:04
Linux_Galoreeljefe: the ipod will automount under /media/ipod04:04
djbaileyi was wondering if anyone else was having issues with Kubuntu 7.0 and the WLAN0 interface04:04
chemicalvampbobbob1016 what did you ebter as your subnet?04:04
jttFireJet, ok good disconnect the DVD an boot Live from other cd and see if ti comes up04:04
FireJetjtt: Alrighty.04:04
chemicalvampdjbailey https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/10690704:04
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: netmask? 255.255.255.004:04
chemicalvampbobbob1016 whats your router04:05
djbaileythank u Chemical ill let u know how i make out04:05
eljefeeven as root: Could not make folder /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/New Folder.04:05
eljefenothing04:05
chemicalvampdjbailey no thats my bug report04:05
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bobbob1016chemicalvamp: model is dlink, but it's internal ip is 192.168.0.104:05
Linux_Galoreeljefe: of course not its already mounted04:05
eljefeyes it is04:05
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eljefei can browse it04:06
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 so then your IP is 192.168.0.X   (X being anything from 2-13 in some models)04:06
Linux_Galoreeljefe: you shouldnt have to mount anything (I dont)04:06
eljefeeven if KDE mounts it, same deal04:06
Linux_Galoreeljefe: kde does nothing04:07
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djbaileyoh sweet04:07
eljefeHAL then04:07
Linux_Galoreeljefe: hal mounts it04:07
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: yes04:07
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: .4404:07
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eljefeI'm not new to this but I really have tried everything04:07
Hasrat_USAdjbailey: i could tell if and only if i had a wireless network card. however let me tell ya I have seen almost more than 30 people come in here and complain about Feisty's wireless features, although let me assure you also that most of the people with wireless cards and Feisty are now happy and not having the issues they used to have before in Edgy04:07
chemicalvampbobbob1016 tweak it, try new ones04:07
djbaileyi was readins some things that said to change eth0 to wlan0 but i dont want to do that.04:07
rjthmm04:07
nano_does anyone knows if there's an app for money management?04:07
coreymon77how do i get dcc send to work04:08
rjtall i know is ive come to accept that at this time my intel pro wireless for my dell will not work04:08
jttnano_, kmymoney works good04:08
nano_thanks jtt !04:08
rjtbut without my wireless it means i must sacrifice xbox live, so hopefully the fix comes up04:08
chemicalvampi just boot my edgy live cd when i wanna do online with my wireless04:08
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Linux_Galoreeljefe: let me put it this way, I have half a dozen portable media devices and about twice that in computers, all working, now I supect you have edited something because Ive never had to change anything04:08
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: tried .50, .70, and .120, same thing04:09
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BluesKajgot a big family , Linux_Galore ? :)04:10
chemicalvampbobbob1016 when i moved from windows to kubuntu i had issues too, so i copied the addresses that windows used, and it worked04:10
chemicalvampbobbob1016 i'de say remove knetworkmanager and try reinstalling it04:10
eljefeLinux-Galore let me put it this way: I have been fighting with Feisty for days now; first Friday's failed upgrade, then the failed install-from-CD, then just today a COMPLETELY FRESH, un-messed-with Beta5, so that I could JUST DO THIS.. Nothings been changed!  But, nothing is working with this!04:10
Linux_GaloreBluesKaj: no Im a coms engineer04:10
BluesKajstill, why so many ?04:11
eljefeI too have had a lot of success on a dozen machines with a dozen devices, but not right now, just before the party, like always!04:11
mweijts_Linux mweijts-laptop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:11
Doctor_Nickis there anyhting analogous to sound recorder on linux?04:11
FireJetFeck.04:11
Doctor_Nicki just need to record me screaming into a microphone for a few seconds04:11
eljefeFireJet: same here bro04:11
Linux_GaloreBluekaj: because different hardware has different specifications04:11
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I have a few other ubuntu boxes, I give all my machines manual IP's below 100, since that's where the dhcp hands them out, so there isn't a conflict04:11
FireJeteljefe: jtt left just when I was gonna talk to him.04:12
eljefelol04:12
eljefewell i gotta leave too, sorry.04:12
BluesKajnvrmnd .04:12
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I'm just not that kde fluent yet, so I wasn't sure which program to use04:12
ubuntuanyone have that ubuntu 'Christian Edition'?04:12
ubuntuI was wondering what the differences are04:12
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 hmm well i kind steal my wireless from the neighbor, so i dont have "hands on" experience with routers04:13
eljefechristian edition has firefox with bible quotes, and a content blocker... nothing more that I know, but something I am sure04:13
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BluesKajubuntu, you have to pray to make it bootup :)04:13
ubuntulol04:13
rbrtocltoI'm using a couple of KDE apps under Gnome and I want to disable font hinting for them, so they match my Gnome apps04:13
rbrtocltoany clues?04:14
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: thanks for trying though04:14
bobbob1016chemicalvamp: I'll play around and see if I can get it working04:14
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chemicalvampbobbob1016 maybe you can look around on this:04:14
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chemicalvamp!ndis04:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:15
Linux_Galorerbrtoclto: run kcontrol there is a fonts section and disable it04:15
dacwith Kubuntu, do you have to have antivirus soft?ware04:16
Linux_Galoredac: why ?04:16
dacI had to have it with windows04:16
rjtfuck windows04:16
Linux_Galoredac: your not running windows04:16
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dac10/404:16
Linux_Galoredac: there is no known active virus for linux04:16
dacright04:17
dac, so I'm safe?04:17
Linux_Galoredac: yes unless you randomly install software without checking04:17
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dacok, ty ty ty04:17
Linux_Galoredac: thats why we have a package manager it means the software hasnt got any nasties04:17
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dacgreat04:18
Linux_Galoredac: windows needs a virus scanner for one major reason, it has no central software package manager04:19
Linux_Galorefor everything*04:19
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dacanother?, which is the best  for email yahoo, gmail, aol?04:19
hitmanWillyplus, its much easier to write windows viruses04:19
Linux_Galoredac: up to your really, I use gmail04:20
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Linux_Galoreyou*04:20
dacok.ty04:20
hitmanWillywindows programs don't run in individual "boxed" processes like nix ones do04:20
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Tired_I'm confused.  I installed Beryl, and there's a little beryl down in my tray, but it doesn't look any prettier04:20
surgyhello04:20
dacI ahve all 304:20
dachave04:20
ses1959_ok tried this link for mounting ntfs but get error fs type bad http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount04:21
Linux_Galoredac: you can intergate gmail with thunderbird and google calanders (gcal) so I use google04:21
hitmanWillyTired_, right click and select beryl as the window manager04:21
dacjust think I only need 104:21
Linux_Galoreintergrate*04:21
rbrtocltowith window effects on, kaffeine doesn't display any video.. is there a workaround for this apart from disabling window effects?04:21
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dacintergrate,how?04:22
riggatoneyany reason why at the login screen i have a respectable resolution but when i enter X max is 1024?04:22
surgyso i updated to feisty using adept, it crashed while i was at work, i came home and my computer was at a black screen with a white blinking cursor, i cannot boot into recovery console or anything, i started downloading the feisty cd image using the live cd, which i am on now, is there any way to resurect my old install if so how?04:22
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Linux_Galorerbrtoclto: most of the beryl compiz stuff it still very experimental, most of it wont be fixed untill the second release after kde 4.004:22
hitmanWillysurgy, you can chroot from the livecd to at least recover your old files04:22
Linux_Galores/it/is/04:23
dacsurgy,replace th CR 2032 battery on your motherboard04:23
ubuntuhow do I backup my bookmarks on my HDD from a  live cd04:23
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surgyhitmanwilly, i can chroot....... can you explain? and dac, thats retarded but thnx for trying04:23
Linux_Galoreubuntu just save them to a bookmarks.html  file04:23
dacok04:24
Tired_hitmanWilly: That gave me a pure white screen till I re-started X.04:24
hitmanWillysurgy, first mount your harddrive04:24
Tired_and now the little beryl is gone04:24
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surgyhitmanWilly: they are both mounted04:24
hitmanWillyTired_, that means beryl is crashing on your system04:24
ubuntuno I am on a live cd trying to find where they are my HDD04:24
Tired_does that mean it won't work?04:25
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Linux_Galoreubuntu depends on the browser04:25
Tired_or just that it needs fixing?04:25
surgyTired_: means you need to fix it04:25
naegling23feisty question here04:25
ubuntufirfox, sorry04:25
Linux_Galoreubuntu different browsers put them in a different place04:25
surgyhitmanWilly: mind if i pm you it will be far easier for me to follow your isntruction04:25
hitmanWillysurgy, actually, you don't need to chroot at all, just copy all your important files on to some kind of backup04:25
dacI did lose my BIOS due to dead MB battery,04:25
ubuntuI always think of firefox being defalt, lol04:25
hitmanWillysurgy, go ahead04:26
Linux_Galorenow whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?04:26
surgyhitmanWilly: it wont let me write to my hard drives04:26
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naegling23when I go to hardware, and select my nvidia card, I open it up, and there is a section for standard or proprietary driver....but its greyed out...why?04:26
dac but my box is over 10 years old04:26
Linux_Galoreubuntu now whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?04:26
surgyhitmanWilly: and actually i just got an error saying my disk is full so i cant even download feisty04:26
ubuntulinux04:26
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ubuntuI just backed up my data, now I  need my bookmarks and I think I will be done04:28
ubuntuready for re-install04:28
Linux_Galoreubuntu  it will be in /media/whatever/home/user_name/.mozilla/firefox/jumble_of_letters/04:28
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ubuntulol, what a   location04:29
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Linux_Galoreubuntu Im not on your system so I dont have many answers for some things04:29
kalorin`surgy, type mount and see if htey're mounted RW or just R04:29
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ubuntusda2 is all I have other than cdrom04:32
LM1How do I force a hardware redetect?04:32
ubuntuand there is nothing in there04:32
BluesKajubuntu ...ubuntu or kubuntu ...you realize it's almost blasphemy to get advice in the Kubuntu (KDE) chat and then use Gnome Desktop ! :)04:33
ubuntulol, Kubuntu brother......... always04:33
BluesKaj:)04:34
Linux_Galoreubuntu type  fdisk -l04:34
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ubuntuok...pastebin?04:35
Linux_Galoreubuntu does the hardisk appear on the desktop ?04:35
chemicalvampyour going to need to sudo that04:35
chemicalvampsudo fdisk -l04:35
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: not on a live cd04:35
chemicalvampLinux_Galore im on a live cd right now, and if its not sudo it displays nothing04:35
ubuntuno, just my flash drive04:36
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chemicalvampubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l04:36
chemicalvampubuntu@ubuntu:~$04:36
ubuntuI can get to the HDD through storage media04:36
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Linux_Galoreubuntu look at the properties and it should show you the path to the hardisk04:37
Linux_Galoreubuntu in the file browser of course04:37
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ubuntuI see it04:37
kpenroseapplying upgrade manager to dapper drake not very pleasant04:38
LM1how do you get kubuntu to redetect hardware?04:38
Linux_Galoreubuntu if you can see the hardisk in the file browser just use that04:38
kpenrosegmediastreamer broke it04:38
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ubuntuit says no files, no folders04:39
ubuntuhow is THAT possible?04:39
Linux_Galoreubuntu click on View-> Show Hidden Folders when in the file browser to you can see .mozilla in the users home directory04:39
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kpenrosenow everytime I try to update anything it keeps updating the same things over and over and never gets past gmediastreamer04:40
Linux_Galoreubuntu  type  media:/   in the file browser04:40
ubuntuk04:40
xjkxBy default, and i really mean by default, kubunto doesnt come with any dev tools, or i am wrong?04:40
Linux_Galorexjkx: true04:40
xjkxthanks04:41
hitmanWillyxjkx, no you're not wrong04:41
xjkx:))04:41
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Linux_Galorexjkx: easily added though04:41
ubuntuyeah, that just takes me to my HDD04:41
ubuntuI cant get anything to come up in my media folder04:41
Linux_Galoreubuntu now Im confused, you want to get the bookmarks of your hardisk and your on it04:42
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Linux_Galoreubuntu so whats the issue you have the path04:42
naegling23ubuntu why are you trying to get everything off the system?04:42
ubuntuno, I'm on live cd accessing my HDD04:42
Linux_Galoreubuntu so you dont actually see the4 hardisk, just a minute ago you said you could04:43
chemicalvampnaegling23 hes gonna reinstall04:43
Linux_Galoreubuntu I know that04:43
Tired_lmao!  this whole time, I've been nervous about Linux cuz I kept hearing 'Flash doesn't work!  It's hard to install!"  I just installed it in about a second and it works fine.  :)04:43
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naegling23ubuntu, you shouldnt need to reinstall, whats the proble,?04:43
naegling23problem?  wow, typing bad04:43
chemicalvampTired_ flash doesnt work in 64 bit linux04:44
Tired_oh...that's the whole thing?04:44
ubuntuno no, I can access the HDD, I just cant seem to get anything to come up in my media folder04:44
Tired_wow, that misunderstanding has kept me off linux for the last six month04:44
Linux_GaloreTired_: not unless you do a 32 chrooted install of firefox04:44
hitmanWillyTired_, but it doesn't work in 64 bit windows either04:44
Linux_Galore32 bit*04:44
coreymon77hey04:44
coreymon77wtf04:44
ubuntu(the reason I am trying to back everything up is that I cant boot into KDE)04:44
chemicalvampubuntu media is where your cdrom / flash devices would be if they where mounted04:44
Tired_but I got 32 bit everyhing04:44
coreymon77i thought etc and usr and all of that stuff being hidden was being removed in feisty04:45
hitmanWillyTired_, you're cool then04:45
naegling23ubuntu, how far can you get into booting04:45
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Linux_GaloreTired_: so your install is all 32bit ?04:45
LM1is there a command to redetect hardware?04:45
Tired_I always thought so.  ;)04:45
naegling23ubuntu: and what is "broken"04:45
Tired_as far as I know...my hardware is all 32 bit04:45
chemicalvampTired_ if i wanted to run flsh on this amd64 i would have to emulate a 32bit firefox04:45
hitmanWillyTired_, intel? then yes04:45
Tired_intel, yes04:45
ubuntusorry, terminology difference here. what I mean by media folder is :  media:/hdb1/media/04:46
Tired_celeron04:46
Linux_Galore!flash04:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:46
BeauJestehow can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution04:46
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash04:46
Tired_but it works.04:46
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Tired_i just cliced Install missing Plugins04:46
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hitmanWillyTired_, i run a 32 bit version on my AMD just for compatibility reasons04:46
ubuntuAm I explaining this right?04:46
Tired_and now my favourite flash game is up04:46
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naegling23ubuntu, you might be able to fix your problem without a reinstall04:47
Tired_the fun part now will be getting syngery to play nicely with my old network04:47
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ubuntuwell, I thought so too, but I ahve to rely on more experienced users04:47
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naegling23I just came into the conv. too late to know what the problem is04:47
Tired_does Kubuntu comewith any kind of default firewall?04:47
Linux_Galoreubuntu why are you in hdb1/media  you should be in home/04:47
flaccid!info firestarter04:47
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB04:47
naegling23tired, yes, iptables, install firestarter to use it04:47
flaccid!info iptables04:47
ubotuiptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 362 kB, installed size 1252 kB04:47
hitmanWillyTired_, i don't believe so, but there are several in the repos04:48
Tired_how do I shut it off?04:48
ubuntuahhh, cause I'm a newbie?04:48
flaccidno firewall enabled by default04:48
ubuntulol04:48
ubuntutrying it now04:48
Tired_i have a firewall on the LAN already04:48
naegling23ubuntu, well, its time to learn04:48
shawn34my task tray icons of running programs aren't stacking anymore... just going horizontal. how do i fix that04:48
hitmanWillyTired_, don't bother then04:48
Linux_GaloreTired_: no default firewall but I usually install  firestarter  ie  sudo apt-get install firestarter  it give you an easy to work with firewall tool04:48
RoboSheepTired, if you're on a switched network you don't need a firewall04:48
naegling23ubuntu, you say you cant boot into kde, can you get a command prompt?04:48
hitmanWillyTired_, unless you're just that paranoid :)04:48
Tired_hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them04:49
flaccidlo @ RoboSheep04:49
flaccidloll04:49
coreymon77guys04:49
ubuntuoh I know, casue I   could find any relevence in here to firefox04:49
coreymon77this is what ubotu said04:49
FireJetCan anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.004:49
coreymon77<ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:49
BeauJestehow can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution04:49
Tired_Linux_Galore: I have a hardware firewall04:49
coreymon77well then why hasnt it been removed04:49
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Linux_GaloreTired_: if you have a hardware firewall and no services running its a none issue04:49
Tired_hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them04:49
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coreymon77guys04:50
flaccidTired_: see ?04:50
ubuntunaegling23: no, just a blinking cursor at the upper left hand side04:50
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Tired_on the network04:50
coreymon77why hasnt the hide files things been removed in feisty04:50
RoboSheepin fact it would be a problem for some routers to have a software firewall behind them (cough Linksys)04:50
flaccidTired_: which protocol samba?04:50
Linux_GaloreTired_: if there is no services there is nothing to see04:50
LeeJunFancoreymon77: it has.04:50
LeeJunFan!hidden04:50
ubotuKubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:50
coreymon77not for me04:50
Tired_i can read files off the XP box in kubuntu, but the XP box acts like the kub box isn't there04:50
naegling23ubuntu, i just fixed a similar problem with my install...no reinstalling, what did you do before this problem happened04:50
LeeJunFancoreymon77: just rm /.hidden04:51
flaccidTired_: if you are talking samba, you need to configure it04:51
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Tired_I'm trying to use SYnergy to share the moue04:51
ubuntulol, your going to laugh04:51
yonkeltronanyone notice that wiki.kubuntu.org is acting all wierd?04:51
FireJetCan anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.004:51
RoboSheepTired_: the samba service... yeah what everyone else said04:51
dachow do I get email encryted, I keep getting these popups saying about to an encrypted area04:51
Tired_samba is for DNS?04:51
Linux_Galoreubuntu in the file manager click on View-> Show Hidden Folder  then you can see the .mozilla folder in the /home/user   directory on the hardisk04:51
flaccidTired_: no04:51
naegling23ubuntu, I have done loads of stupid things, unless it was downloaded 73 gb of porn, then I wont laugh04:51
Tired_i thought samba was for SMB04:51
flaccid!samba04:51
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:51
Tired_my problem is DNS04:52
ubuntuI rebooted and left the room..... when I came back my 3 year old was sitting in my chair with the all too familiar grin on his face04:52
flaccidyou never stated dns04:52
flaccidTired_: what is the specific/exact problem04:52
Tired_i said it can't see the kubuntu box on the network04:52
xjkxwhat games comes on kubuntu?04:52
flaccidwtf does see mean?04:52
chemicalvampubuntu lol sweet04:52
naegling23ubuntu, so basically, you have no idea?04:52
Aloneahmm...how do you "middle" click on a laptop?04:52
compilerwriterWhat did he feed your computer ubuntu?04:52
Tired_XP box says Address Not Found when I try to access the kubuntu box in Syngery.  The kubuntu box can see the XP box fine.04:52
ubuntuexactly04:52
LeeJunFanAlonea: both left and right click at same time.04:52
CygnusX1Alonea: left and right silmultaneously04:53
zimahi, I'm trying out live dvd of Kubuntu, thinking about installing, wanted to check and have a problem with video card - radeon 8500 dv04:53
Linux_GaloreAlonea: press both buttons at the same time04:53
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naegling23ubuntu, lets try something first04:53
Tired_see = DNS nam goes somewhere04:53
ubuntuI asked him what he pushed, and he kept pointing to the space bar04:53
flaccidTired_: are you talking about doing a dns lookup of a lan client?04:53
AloneaLeeJunFan: ok..but it just pasted the text again...04:53
Tired_yes!04:53
zimabasically xserver starts in vesa mode04:53
flaccidTired_: see doesn't mean anything. don't use see.04:53
naegling23what is your linux drive ID, example would be sda104:53
Tired_what is a better word?04:53
dachow does one encrypt?04:53
flaccidTired_: what is the dns server? you need to configure it by adding an A record.04:53
LeeJunFanAlonea: that's what a middle click is supposed to do.04:53
jasinIs it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?04:53
chemicalvampzima yeah you have to follow a guide to install your video cad04:53
Linux_Galorezima: let me put it this way, ATi sux04:54
flaccidTired_: dns resolution04:54
zimais it representative of how it would work initially from hdd?04:54
Tired_no DNS server, just computer names04:54
jasinWithout formating that is.04:54
LeeJunFanjasin: it's not an upgrade - it's just installing more packages.04:54
LeeJunFanjasin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:54
flaccidTired_: either configure dns or NetBT w/ Samba04:54
chemicalvamplol Linux_Galore got a benchmark to prove that?04:54
AloneaLeeJunFan: then I don't understand these instructions for the autothing for beryl...04:54
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: were do i start04:54
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jasinLeeJunFan, its a different desktop, configuration, not just mere packages.04:54
zimachemicalvamp, Linux_Galore: AFAIK Radeon 8500 is one of the best supported by open source drivers GFX cards...04:54
hitmanWillywell, ati driver support sux in general for starters04:55
LeeJunFanjasin: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing.04:55
jasinleejun, ok04:55
chemicalvampLinux_Galore a link to a website that will prove your point04:55
zimaI don't want to use ATI drivers04:55
LeeJunFanjasin: only one has kde one has gnome.04:55
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zimabinary ATI drivers*04:55
ubuntuhdb104:55
LeeJunFanjasin: but you can have both on the same system as well.04:55
flaccidkubuntu and ubuntu are not exacty the same thing, but they do share the repos04:55
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jasinleejun, thats like saying linux is linux04:55
naegling23jasin, actually, kubuntu is just a bunch of different packages, its just that a lot of them control the desktop and stuff04:55
Liptonteahow do i change moniter settings from recovery console04:56
hitmanWillyzima, then you should be fine as long as you don't want 3d acceleration or anything04:56
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: how about this, you prove to me ATi hasnt got crap drivers for Linux04:56
naegling23ubuntu: open a terminal, and type sudo mkdir /media/drive04:56
naegling23ubuntu: then sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/drive04:56
LeeJunFanjasin: no, they are the same thing, born from the same installing, repos, etc... the difference comes during install when one installs kubuntu-desktop which is a collection of X packages, the other installs ubuntu-desktop which is a collection of Y packages. only difference.04:56
Tired_am I still here?04:57
naegling23ubuntu: sudo chroot /media/drive04:57
zimahitmanWilly: but xserver doesn't even start from live dvd under "normal" mode, I have to use vesa (and open source r200 drivers do have 3D)04:57
chemicalvampLinux_Galore why would you use a linux driver, when you can use the drivers right from the ati website?04:57
naegling23ubuntu: this gives you a command prompt as you installed user04:57
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ses1959_in media konqueror i open new location and type /dev/sdb1 and get message to pick program04:57
ubuntugotcha04:57
jasinLeeJunFan,  i'm sure the folks at kde would highly disagree.04:58
naegling23ubuntu: from here you can fix it04:58
flaccidLeeJunFan: you do realise that you said they are the same thing and yet different within the same sentence04:58
ubuntuok04:58
ses1959_what program should i use to view the files04:58
hitmanWillyzima, hmm, don't use ati myself, not all that familiar with it04:58
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: its a well known fact that the official ATi drivers are crap04:58
Liptonteai made the resolution 1280x and my monitrt cant run it...how do i fix from console back to 1024x04:58
jasinkde and gnome are nothing like each other04:58
hitmanWilly!xorg04:58
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:58
naegling23ubuntu: now comes the tricky part, figuring out what needs to be fixed04:58
LeeJunFanflaccid: I'm not saying they are, I'm saying the underlying system is the same, the only difference is the GUI apps.04:58
hitmanWillyLiptontea, see link from ubotu04:58
naegling23ubuntu: try sudo dpkg --configure -a04:58
ubuntuyikes04:58
Liptonteaty04:59
robin_hi04:59
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Zeddyif i could ask a quick question (i hope)... Im trying to free up some room in my / (only has a gig left - for some reason).. is it possible that i move /var to another hardrive (a directory) and just create a symbolic link?04:59
jasinLeeJunFan,  thats semantics for the underlying system of all linux distros is the same, its the kernel.04:59
chemicalvampLinux_Galore i got a $400 nvidia pcie card in my tower, the the onboard radeon on ths laptop smokes it for fps on wow04:59
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flaccidLeeJunFan: i know. but look at your original statement.05:00
hitmanWillyZeddy, should be doable05:00
vbgunzfor some reason, maybe I am tripping, Feisty feels much faster than Edgy... this aint a frsh install either, this is an upgrade :)05:00
flacciddont call them the same thing, because they are not05:00
specialbuddyhas anyone had a problem with beryl and the menu05:00
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tmbgwhere are the packages from e.g. apt kept on the disk?05:00
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: you mixing windows and Linux into your arguement now so this has gone into the realms of "stupid"05:00
ZeddyhitmanWilly: ta will try it... need to get some room for a dist-upgrade :(05:00
vbgunztmbg: /var/cache/apt/archives05:00
LeeJunFanjasin: you're missing the point - upgrading ubuntu to kubuntu, it's no more an upgrade than installing openoffice is on a windows machine alongside MS Office.05:00
ubuntuits now asking me a question05:01
naegling23ubuntu: whats the question?05:01
jasinI agree with Linux_Galore, os debates are stupid.05:01
chemicalvampLinux_Galore no you said windows drivers05:01
hitmanWillyZeddy, good luck05:01
ubuntuits long..05:01
specialbuddydoes anyone have a problem with beryl?05:01
ubuntuI'll paistbin it05:01
Zeddyta05:01
flaccidlets move on...05:01
jasinLeeJunFan,  I dont use openoffice.05:01
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: no I said ATi sux, last I looked this was a Linux room05:01
chemicalvampspecialbuddy its a pain and it eats up alot of cpu05:01
naegling23ubuntu: ok05:02
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: I never mentioned anything about wincrap05:02
specialbuddywell I was wondering why I can't see my windows menu05:02
jasinLeeJunFan,  i wont debate windows vs. linux.05:02
LeeJunFanjasin: And I don't use gnome/ubuntu-desktop, but the point remains the same.05:02
ubuntu!pastebin05:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:02
jasinLeeJunFan,  find someone else to debate, thanks.05:02
LeeJunFanjasin: I'm not either, I'm using it as an example.05:02
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specialbuddyhas anyone else had a problem with the menu bar and baryl?05:02
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958/05:02
specialbuddyberyl05:02
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hitmanWillyspecialbuddy, have you tried in #ubuntu-effects?05:03
jasinLeeJunFan, well its a pretty poor example since office is not windows specific it does run on macs as well.05:03
vbgunzKDE4 is going to rock!05:03
specialbuddyis there a room called that05:03
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy, they're the beryl experts05:03
Linux_Galorechemicalvamp: ati do have official drivers for Linux but they are total crap05:03
flaccidLinux_Galore: they work fine for me.05:03
specialbuddycool05:03
LeeJunFanjasin: and gnome and kde run on other unixlike/unix systems too.05:03
Liptonteasudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom  wont run this..... "no such file or directory...i tried it minus the sudo since its at root prompt05:03
RoboSheepDid evolution mail break in the upgrade?05:03
flaccidand they work fine for lots of people05:03
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chemicalvampLinux_Galore look up "official drivers" and both my laptop AND tower run feisty05:03
Liptonteaneither runs05:03
jasinLeeJunFan,  i'm done debating you.05:04
specialbuddythank you hitmanWilly05:04
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hitmanWillynp05:04
vbgunzgnome apps looks excellent in Kubuntu 7.0405:04
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hitmanWillyvbgunz, i thinked they fixed a lot of gtk compatibility issues05:04
vbgunzif only I could swap out those pesty gnome dialog boxes for the native KDE ones05:04
LeeJunFanjasin: there's no debate - you asked a question, I answered and explained the differences between ubuntu/kubuntu. I don't see the problem other than your willingness to argue and run.05:05
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naegling23ubuntu: select n05:05
jasinLeeJunFan, i'm ignoring you.05:05
ubuntuk05:05
flaccidmoving on05:05
jasinLeeJunFan,  goodbye05:05
vbgunzhitmanWilly: they've done a wonderful job then because Gnome apps looked somewhat broken in Edgy05:05
naegling23ubuntu: were you in the process of installing/upgrading when this happened?05:05
chemicalvampLinux_Galore we can sit here and battle opinions all day long, but if you want to see what is beter go online and check the benchmarks for yourself05:05
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hitmanWillyvbgunz, that was actually a qt vs. gtk issue05:05
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Tired_wow...this is really frustrating and unrewarding05:06
Whopperdoes anyone here use fiesty?05:06
flaccidok this is kubuntu support chan y005:06
ubuntuvery good question!!!05:06
flaccidWhopper: yes. and with cheese05:06
LeeJunFanwith cheese?05:06
hitmanWillylol05:06
LeeJunFan:)05:06
jasinI wont debate desktops, OSs, distros,etc .. thats stupid stuff. There are difference, no two are the same!05:06
vbgunzhitmanWilly: once the gnome dialogs get replaced, using gnome apps that require them would be that much better :)05:06
Whopperflaccid: if it's not too much to ask, can i have your sources.list? Mine is not working for some reason05:06
LeeJunFanyet you keep talking.05:06
Linux_Galore_chemicalvamp: the only benchmarks out here are for Windows, I dont run windows so its a none issues especially in this room, last batch of Ati/Nvidia Linux becnhmarks i saw showed ATi to be slower05:06
Linux_Galore_there*05:06
flaccid!source-o-matic > Whopper05:07
hitmanWillyvbgunz, well, some apps can be compiled with qt vs. gtk support, ask any gentoo user :)05:07
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Tired_why won't aarok prompt me to install mp3 support now?  i'm ready to actually do it, but it won't ask05:07
Tired_amarok05:07
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Whopperoh05:07
BluesKajgents and gentilles , seems quite a bit of disagreement happening ...bloodsugar is getting low ...take a break and have bite to eat :)05:07
Whopperwell then05:07
Whoppernevermind :P05:07
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vbgunzheh, let my skills boil over first, probably another couple of years :)05:07
ubuntusomeone stepped me through the process, claiming it was easier to upgrade through his 'steps' from dapper to the next one05:07
Linux_Galore_chemicalvamp: also there is no FOSS 3D driver project for ATi but there is for nvidia05:07
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ubuntuever since then, the system has been shakey05:08
vbgunzwhats the beef?05:08
flaccidLinux_Galore_: isn't there the radeon and ati drivers from xorg05:08
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jasinI don't play games so having the latest or fastest graphics card is meaningless to me.05:08
hitmanWillyTired_, just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, that installs all those codecs05:08
flaccidthey work fine as well05:08
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ubuntueven the video (nvidia 128 meg)05:08
naegling23ubuntu: problem is being fixed, sounds like your install was interupted, you prob. dont have all the files updated, the system is looking for things that dont exist05:08
BluesKajATI just released new Radeon drivers today if anyone cares to check them out05:08
ubuntuok05:08
LeeJunFanI'm running open source ATI drivers with beryl right now.05:08
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Linux_Galore_flaccid: yes but not 3D05:08
naegling23ubuntu, when the dpkg thing is done enter this05:09
flacciddefine 3D05:09
ubuntukonsole is really going at it05:09
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ubuntuI hope this will get my speed back05:09
naegling23ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install05:09
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ubuntumy syssstem slowed down quite a bit also05:09
Linux_Galore_Nvidia 3D open source drivers -> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/05:09
ubuntunormally screems05:09
jasinIf I want to play games i'll get an xbox or playstation.05:09
Aloneaok, I am following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732 , but I have KDE, not gnome, so how do I make it for KDE?05:09
kalorin`blueskaj I just got mine working :(05:09
naegling23ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2504836#post2504836 I just fixed a similar problem to you05:10
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Linux_Galore_flaccid: OpenGL works in an accelerated enviroment05:10
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BluesKajit's a basically a self installer pkg , kalorin`05:10
ubuntuok05:10
naegling23ubuntu: dont follow the post though, Its not really your problem05:10
kalorin`BluesKaj: yeah I have an x700 with a DVI adn VGA output with a monitor on each05:11
flaccidLinux_Galore_: so glxgears would be an example of that?05:11
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kalorin`it's a pain in the ass to get the X desktop working correctly on that across both monitors05:11
kalorin`not sure I'm ready to do it again :(05:11
Linux_Galore_flaccid: no, glxgears isnt 3D last I looked05:11
Alonealike, what would I change gnome-session to?05:11
vithola05:11
unix_infidelanyone here tried running fiesty in vmware and got a couple of freezes upon install?05:11
Tired_I can't get over how difficult it is to get Windows and Linux to seamlessly cooperate...it seems like it's always easier to have all Windows or all LInux on your network.05:12
flaccidLinux_Galore_: whats a test program i can use to see if '3D' works?05:12
ubuntudone05:12
unix_infidelflaccid: glxgears05:12
vithi05:12
vbgunzdoes "ubuntu-restricted-extras" include DVD support?05:12
Liptonteasudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:12
Linux_Galore_flaccid: hmm run bzflag without stutter05:12
kalorin`flaccid: fgl_glxgears is05:12
Liptonteathat fixed05:12
kalorin`not sure if that's an ATI thing though05:12
Liptonteaty05:12
BluesKaj2 monitors , ok ... i don't see the need , but whatever turns you on ...   :)05:12
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jasinThe drivers for the 8500 to the x1900 were not released today they were released on the 18th, see: http://ati.amd.com05:12
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LeeJunFanLinux_Galore_: I'm running beryl just fine with open source radeon drivers.05:12
ubuntudont see any restricted05:13
LeeJunFanLinux_Galore_: granted not all cards are supported.05:13
flaccidLinux_Galore_: what is bzflag?05:13
LeeJunFan!info bzflag05:13
ubotubzflag: a 3D first person tank battle game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8.20060605ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 10204 kB, installed size 13468 kB05:13
Tired_a game05:13
vbgunzbzflag is a 3D game05:13
Linux_Galore_flaccid: its a 3D opengl game05:13
flaccidok05:13
flaccidi might have to wait till i get to work05:14
naegling23ubuntu: reboot, and try to log into your system (not from the cd)05:14
Tired_is tuxracer still around?  I used to love that....05:14
flaccidbut i swear opengl works on this driver05:14
BluesKajgamerz...get an xbox ...bah!05:14
chemicalvampis there a guide for installing ati drivers on feisty yet?05:14
ubuntuok05:14
unix_infidelanyone for my vmware question?05:14
ubuntuwait05:14
Linux_Galore_flaccid: I use it to test the performance of the drivers, it shows a fps in game05:14
naegling23ubuntu: if you dont have any luck, write down the chroot stuff I told you earlier05:14
kalorin`unix_infidel: go ahead05:14
LeeJunFanunix_infidel: you are installing feisty in vmware? or vmware in feisty?05:14
chemicalvampunix_infidel shoot05:14
Tired_sorry, I only use VMWare for weird OSes, like plan905:14
jasinchemicalvamp,  yes, see: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.36.5-inst.html05:14
hitmanWillychemicalvamp, it should be the same as edgy, more or less05:14
ubuntulet me give you some errors that I saw05:15
unix_infidelI'm running feisty on vmware server.05:15
ubuntuchroot?05:15
naegling23Ubuntu: if you chroot, you can fix the problem, the only issue is knowing the commands to type, but someone should be able to help you with those05:15
BluesKajchemicalvamp, the latest are selfinstalling just do   ./ atidrivername.run05:15
chemicalvamphitmanWilly nope lol, xserver wont boot with the changes you make to xorg.conf05:15
Linux_Galore_flaccid: all the foss drivers Ive ever tried with bzflag with ati or nvidia stutter05:15
kalorin`unix_infidel: I run it for windows on linux05:15
vbgunzdoes "ubuntu-restricted-extras" include DVD support?05:15
jasinchemicalvamp,  yes, see: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.36.5-inst.html05:15
LeeJunFanunix_infidel: hrm, I am as well, but I installed with debootstrap, and shared it over NFS and network boot mine.05:15
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, well nvidia was the same, i figured ati worked like that too :)05:15
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hitmanWillychemicalvamp, but again, it IS ati05:16
Tired_vbgunz -> I'll tell ya as soon as it finishes installing  :)05:16
jasinvlc will do dvd05:16
naegling23ubuntu: once you get to the terminal, someone can help you, for some reason a lot of people dont realize that you can use the live cd to get there, so mounting the drive and sudo chroot /media/drive can be very important05:16
unix_infidelhmm, i think i'll just install it on a physical box once i get a new power supply05:16
soulrider_hi everyone05:16
vbgunzTired_: cool, thank you :)05:16
surgyhitmanWilly: we have multiple problems :(05:16
ubuntuok05:16
kalorin`jeepers, 50megs of a driver05:16
Tired_might be a while...last install took two hours, but I'm doing it now05:16
flaccidim on freebsd using the radeon driver atm, i'll test that first05:16
kalorin`insane05:16
naegling23ubuntu: did dpkg still spit back some errors?05:16
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flaccidLinux_Galore_: nexuiz is 3D. it runs fine with the open drivers05:17
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srihariKubuntu 7.04 on Asus M2A-VM anybody? (it's an AMD690G, with integrated Radeon X1250). Xorg H/W accelerated 2D with open drivers?05:17
srihariWith KVM also?05:17
ubuntuyes allot05:17
jasinNo one wants to port games over to linux because 70% of all gamers are on xbox, wii, playstations, and windows.05:17
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soulrider_!info kooka05:18
ubotukooka: scanner program for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 743 kB, installed size 1204 kB05:18
newGuyCan anyone help me with writting a simple shell script?05:18
ubuntu!pastebin05:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:18
Tired_jasin -> catch-22...the gmers are there cuz theres no games05:18
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flaccidLinux_Galore_: is opengl and sdl 3d?05:18
soulrider_jasin: there are some awesome games for linux05:18
BluesKaji hope they fixed kooka ...it sucks on my scanner05:18
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jasinTired_,  not really, people were gaming on those things long before there ever was a ubuntu05:18
kalorin`newGuy: I do some shell scripting05:18
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16959/05:18
kalorin`what do you need?05:18
david_Hello!  I have a question.  How do I install my Nvidia video card on Kubuntu?  The gnome ubuntu did it automatically, but I have no idea what to do in Kubuntu05:19
Tired_but not long before there was a linux05:19
soulrider_BluesKaj: it detects my dads canner, the name and everything, but it doesnt scan :P05:19
jasinsoulrider, true but their few and far between05:19
soulrider_ubuntu:  could you please change that name ? =/05:19
Aloneaalso, how do you add a script to your "Session Startup Programs" list05:19
Tired_lol, he's been ubuntu all day now05:19
ubuntusure...how?05:19
aroType /nick name05:19
ubuntuhaha05:19
aroWhere name is your new name05:19
ubuntuok05:20
naegling23ubuntu: wow, those are some errors!05:20
Tired_is tere a purely social IRC for kubuntu users anywhere?05:20
soulrider_!ntfs05:20
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:20
BluesKajsoulrider_, kooka works on myscanner, but the results are pretty bad vs the windows program (I hate to admit )05:20
ubuntuyeah05:20
david_Anybody know how I can get my video card to install correctly?  It did it by itself on the standard gnome ubuntu but not on the KDE Kubuntu...05:21
jasintired, not true, nitendo has been around since 198305:21
naegling23ubuntu: you were upgrading from dapper to?05:21
ubuntuI   keep getting errors when I try to change my nic name05:21
flaccidLinux_Galore_: i just installed bzflag. runs fine!!05:21
ubuntuthe next one05:22
ubuntuforgot the name05:22
naegling23ubuntu "edgy"?05:22
ubuntuyes05:22
LeeJunFandavid_: what kind of video card do you have?05:22
david_I think it's a gforce 6200...05:22
Aloneaanyone?05:22
BluesKajTired_, #kubuntu-offtopic05:23
ubuntumy sources have edgy supositories05:23
LeeJunFandavid_: you could try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg' and see if that get's X up and running.05:23
kalorin`-p high?05:23
david_I'll try that LeejunFan... :) thx05:23
naegling23ubuntu: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and verify that all of them have been changed05:23
jasinKernel 1.0.0  wasn't even released until March 14th 1994.05:24
LeeJunFankalorin`: only asks questions with high priority - guesses most of the mundane things - w/o -p high -p critical it's going to ask a TON of questions about setting up X.05:24
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naegling23ubuntu: you can always try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but that might give you feisty....05:25
ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16962/05:25
david_Okay.. I'm in the "Configuring xserver xorg" thing in the terminal... Which driver should I select?05:26
ubuntuwell, I was told that could be trouble if I did that05:26
LeeJunFandavid_: there should be an nv or nvidea I would imagine, unfortunately (and I really mean that) I only have ATI systems.05:26
LeeJunFannvidia that is.05:26
kalorin`ah ok05:27
vbgunzubuntu, what version of ubuntu do you have?05:27
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naegling23ubuntu: possibly, its not the greatest, but if you missed one of the reposotories, you could have massive problems05:27
kalorin`must finish homework before getting into 6 hour battle with ATI drivers05:27
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[Relic] !nvidia05:28
Aloneakalorin`: I just used envy to install my ati fglrx drivers05:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:28
vbgunzI ran into a big problem upgrading from Edgy to Feisty, though it turns out I just had to uninstall ipython .73 for some reason then my upgrade went just fine05:28
Tired_... I thought Java was spposed to come with Feisty05:28
LeeJunFankalorin`: hehe. I gave up on the ATI drivers, as well as ATI and AMD in all. I'll not buy their equipment again until they change their Linux procedures.05:28
Aloneakalorin`: it basically does what is in that how to for you05:28
kalorin`envy huh?05:28
david_Okay... Thanks... I did that and selected a 1280x1024 resolution...05:28
david_But i'm still in 800x60005:28
LeeJunFankalorin`: I just use the open source ones.05:28
kalorin`yeah05:28
kalorin`I would but I started down this road and I don't really know about going back05:29
ubuntusorry had to leave the room05:29
kalorin`and this system is going to have a finite lifetime05:29
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LeeJunFandavid_: hrm. can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?05:29
ubuntuhow do I find out what I have?05:29
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Aloneakalorin`: yeah, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:29
LeeJunFan!paste | david_05:29
ubotudavid_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:29
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kalorin`I want to upgrade, I don't really mind the ATI stuff all things considered, and it's an Athlon 64 system so I don't mind that stuff too much05:29
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jasinConsole gaming was around long before windows, mac, and linux gaming.05:29
LeeJunFanubuntu: cat /etc/issue05:29
kalorin`the core 2 duo's 6320 is where I think i'mg oing to go05:29
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Kansiwill you try the fluxbuntu?05:30
kalorin`fluxbuntu?05:30
Kansiyeah...05:30
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kalorin`dogbuntu05:30
kalorin`catbuntu05:30
kalorin`getting crazy05:30
ubuntu6.06 lts05:30
Kansiyeap05:30
LeeJunFankalorin`: my current 3 home systems are all ATI/AMD, but I'm just fed up with ATI's failed promises and lack of good drivers for Linux.05:30
kalorin`leejun, their drivers seem to work fine, it's just installing them05:31
LeeJunFanubuntu: that's dapper05:31
ubuntuyeah I know05:31
jasinif i needed speed i'd run xubuntu not flux.05:31
ubuntuI   thought I was upgrading05:31
ubuntulol05:31
naegling23ubuntu: I would make sure all reposotories say edgy instead of dapper, if they dont, change them05:31
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[Relic] envy work for nvidia in 7.04?05:31
naegling23relic, yes05:31
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LeeJunFankalorin`: I run on a laptop, and it seems every other release breaks suspend to RAM which I really can't stand not having. As well as their driver not supporting composit extensions.05:32
ubuntuI didnt see any that said dapper05:32
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cobrienHow do I change the max resolution on a box?   It's at 800x600 right now...  I want it at 1280..  it's something like apt-get install pkg_reconfigure_xorg or something like that isn't it?05:32
ubuntuI put it in pastebin just to make sure I didnt miss anything05:32
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naegling23ubuntu: I can only see the first few lines, you would need to scroll down05:33
LeeJunFancobrien: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg05:33
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kalorin`oh yeah I dont' care much about beryl or whatever, so composite to me means nothing05:33
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kalorin`haven't found anything that I need it for05:33
ubuntuoh ok05:33
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[Relic] how do I install the .deb then?05:34
cobrienleejunfan: cool... thx...  Was that an option when I installed using the alternate cd?05:34
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ubuntuI closed out05:34
ubuntuwhat was the command again?05:34
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bobesponjahey05:34
LeeJunFancobrien: it should have been, but easily missed if you don't pay attention when going thru the X config.05:34
kdawgheres a question, in system settings>monitor>hardware, it still says I am using the nv driver with my nvidia 6800, and I have the proprietary driver installed... what gives?05:34
bobesponjaI've just upgraded from edgy to feisty05:34
kdawgRelic: sudo dpkg -i *.deb05:34
AmyRosebobesponja: How do you like it?05:34
david_Here's the pastebin you asked for LeeJunFan... Thanks:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16963/05:34
naegling23sudo nano /etc/apt sources.lst05:34
cobrienleejunfan: ahh...  I think I did miss it...  dpkg-reconfigure appears to be used often...  is that so?05:35
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ubuntuholly carp05:35
LeeJunFancobrien: mostly for X, there are times it's handy for other things but not often used as it is for xserver.05:35
ubuntucrap05:35
LeeJunFandavid_: that's odd - it should be in 1024x768, the X config looks right.05:36
ubuntuthere is nothing there05:36
bobesponjaAmyRose: my mouse doesn't work as before, I can't open tabs by clicking on the mouse wheel and I can't past by clicking on the mouse wheel05:36
bobesponjaAmyRose: something bad happened with my mouse during the upgrade05:36
bobesponjaAmyRose: any idea what might it be?05:36
ubuntusays "no buffer"''05:36
LeeJunFandavid_: ah, but you wanted 1280.05:37
david_ok.... Well, I guess I might go off and try to find a driver directly from Nvidia or something... I'm pretty new to linux, so I don't know much about getting this working...05:37
naegling23ubuntu: i have no idea what that means05:37
david_Yeah I have a huge monitor that only looks right in 1280 lol05:37
LeeJunFandavid_: you may have misschecked the one you wanted? you can run the dpkg-reconfigure again or you can manually edit xorg.conf and add "1280x1024" to the line under Depth 24, then of course restart X05:38
AmyRosebobesponja: What sort of mouse do you have?05:38
cobrienOh baby... here comes Beryl!05:38
ubuntuthis is crazy05:38
david_Oh cool... Thanks.. :)  I'll try that05:38
ubuntuhow can it just disappear05:38
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bobesponjaAmyRose: usb genius optical05:38
morphinexhowdy folks, is there a konqueror channel?05:38
david_bbl for now...05:39
LeeJunFanmorphinex: not really, but if you have some very specific KDE type questions maybe #kde would be a good place?05:39
cobrienmorph: not that I know of, but there is a KDE channel, i think.05:39
naegling23ubunut: i dont know if it disappeared, you just got a buffer error...whatever that means05:39
morphinexthanks, i'll try it05:39
cobrienamyrose: have you ever seen the 3m RenMouse?  :)05:39
ubuntuout of memory?05:39
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ubuntuI'm still on live cd05:39
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naegling23ubuntu: I would try a reboot and see if you can get anywhere, you might be able to get back to X and fix things from there05:40
xjkxyou sure that add/remove thing on kubuntu is app-install-data ? i installed it here on debian (using ubuntu source) and there was no binaries ! there is one with binaries, gnome-app-install, but this one surely is not Kde things05:40
naegling23ubuntu: you dont need your sources.lst except for stuff like updates, you can find some sources.lst files online and stuff05:41
ubuntuok, wish me luck05:41
ubuntuok05:41
ubuntuout...05:41
boblenyHey, does it hurt anything if I run "apt-get upgrade" in one session window and other commands in another window?05:41
naegling23ubuntu: good luck, im heading to bed, i wont be here when you get back05:41
ubuntuok, thanks for your help05:41
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boblenyWhile it's running I mean...05:41
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naegling23ubuntu: hopefully someone else can finish it off, your on the right path05:41
LeeJunFanbobleny: as long as the other commands aren't killall apt-get or reboot type of commands - no.05:42
boblenyOk05:42
LeeJunFanbobleny: you won't be able to run other apt-get's, but any other type of thing is fine.05:42
Aloneawhats the adept fix thing? I can't get into it now.05:43
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boblenyOk05:43
LeeJunFan!adeptcrashfix05:43
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:43
sdlnxgkanyone have issues with upgrading to feisty from edgy???05:43
AloneaThe APT Database could not be opened! is that the thing that fixes?05:43
sstchurhas anyone else experienced adept notifier acting rather odd with beryl running?05:43
boblenyOne other question though....05:43
boblenyDoes anyone in here have truecrypt for linux? If so, could you tell me how to create a volume with a password and a keyfile? When I use "truecrypt -c", I go through the prompts just fine, but then it promts me for "Enter keyfile path [finish] :". If I hit enter, it has a fatil error, other wise, it won't stop promptimg me for it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've looked through the man file over and over... Could someone help?05:43
hitmanWillysstchur, yes, its a bug in it05:43
LeeJunFanAlonea: it should.05:43
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Yorokobibobleny, read the manual, its pretty clear05:44
AloneaLeeJunFan: didn't work05:44
Tired_... I thought Java was spposed to come with Feisty.  how come  have to download it?05:44
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boblenyI Yorokobi, I have and not it didn't help.05:44
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carutsujust a question too many fonts slow down linux too?05:44
hitmanWillyTired_, legal issues05:44
Cosmo_I was attempting to upgrade my mother's laptop from 6.10 to 7.04 and I am not sure what she did but when I boot up now on it it goes to the command line and says "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" any way to fix this?05:44
Tired_oh.  lame05:45
cobrienAlright!   My mouse cursor disappeared... It still selects things and I can click them, but I can't see it.05:45
sdlnxgkCosmo I get the same thing05:45
sstchurhitmanWilly: I've just been killing it... is there any workaround?05:45
cobrienI turned on Beyrl and my screen went white...  I had to kill the WM...  yay!05:45
hitmanWillysstchur, not that im aware of, i usually do the same thing05:45
sdlnxgkCosmo I get the same message but also says something about can't find /dev/hdb1 which is my primary hard drive05:46
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[Relic] !sensors05:46
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto05:46
hitmanWillysstchur, when im running beryl, that is :)05:46
cobrienAnyone know how to restart my mouse daemon or something?05:46
phyerbossCosmo: just do a full reinstall to 7.04...I ran into issues during the upgrade myself05:46
srihariCosmo_, are /dev/tty* exist?05:46
phyerbossso I burnt the 7.04 CD and ran that05:46
LeeJunFanAlonea: hrm, dunno - maybe try asking in #ubuntu since it's an apt problem, there are more people there - more chance someone might know.05:47
sdlnxgkphyerboss: the only thing is I really would like to back up my stuff before doing a full install05:47
Cosmo_phyerboss: thanks05:47
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sstchurhitmanWilly: ok, well it's comforting to know i'm not the only one05:47
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AloneaLeeJunFan: ok.05:47
LeeJunFancobrien: there really isn't a mouse deamon in X.05:47
phyerbossgood point!...sorry Cosmo05:47
_ronHello. How can I check to see what version I am running/05:47
phyerbossbe sure to back everything up^^05:47
hitmanWilly!bug05:47
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:47
sdlnxgkphyerboss: is there any way to go back to edgy???05:47
phyerbossI could not say, as i myself am still new to it all05:48
phyerbossi just know that when i did the update/upgrade it went haywire05:48
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phyerbossdue to broken packages that were still in my apt cache thingie05:48
phyerbossheh05:48
sdlnxgkany GURU's here tonight??? is there a way to go back to edgy after trying upgrade to feisty??05:49
phyerbossso, the best option was using the cd05:49
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sdlnxgkI just should have said no I don't want to upgrade..05:49
sdlnxgkEdgy was running great :)05:49
phyerbossas for jumping back to a previous ver...i cant say=\05:49
phyerbosswell for 1 of us05:49
sdlnxgkhmmmmmmmmmmmm05:49
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: short answer == no.05:49
phyerbossheh05:49
srihari_ron, not sure what version you're after. If it's ubuntu/kubuntu etc., then it displays the version at the console. ctrl_alt+f1 if you're in X already.05:50
phyerbossmine's was a tad probelematic05:50
phyerbossfiesty is awesome05:50
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: even if I change the sources.list back to edgy and upgrade??05:50
phyerbosseverything i was having issues with BAM! Fixed right out the box05:50
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LeeJunFansdlnxgk: that wont work because the dependancies won't follow things backwards where a package provides another package, etc...05:51
phyerbossEXCEPT: I still cant stream any media files over my network!05:51
sdlnxgkmaybe maybe i'll  download while on live cd and back up my stuff to my other drives while I can :)05:51
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: your best bet at this point would be to tackle the problems you have with feisty.05:51
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sdlnxgkphyerboss: just had got that fixed was using icecast2 and mpd to stream ;)05:51
phyerbossso you can play mp3's and movie files from one pc on your network to another?05:52
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: did all the updates but for some odd reason says it can't find my hard drive..05:52
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LeeJunFansdlnxgk: cant find your HD? does it boot?05:52
phyerbossbecause i d/l'ed plugin after plugin...nuthin05:52
sdlnxgkphyerboss: never tried movies before...  you might want to use vlc viewer for that...05:52
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LeeJunFansdlnxgk: it's probably got to do with the UUID stuff.05:53
phyerbosshmm05:53
LeeJunFan!uuid05:53
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)05:53
Aloneaits like, I can do apt-get update, and thats it.05:53
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mike________--hey05:53
maniachey guys05:54
mike________--i'm having this kind of odd problem05:54
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maniacsup?05:54
maniacfirst time on irc....05:54
mike________--yeah05:54
riggatoneywlcome05:54
maniactrying out the kubuntu live cd05:54
maniacthx05:54
mike________--when i launch firefox it opens the clear private data window and i click clear and it really doesn't do anything05:54
mike________--and firefox crashes05:54
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maniacclose that window05:55
_ron!upgrade05:55
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:55
mike________--i've purged it and reinstalled05:55
maniacthen click ctrl+shift+delete05:55
_ronWill that work to upgrade from breezy?05:55
mike________--i guess05:55
AloneaLeeJunFan: could this be the problem? I do not have a gpg.conf file in /home/alonea/.gnupb/05:55
mike________--lol you're still using breezy?05:55
LeeJunFanmike________--: if you don't have any bookmarks,passwords saved you can't lose try removing ~/.mozilla05:55
maniacdamn, jubuntu is nice05:55
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: it boots but says something about can't find "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"05:56
mike________--k05:56
maniacwhat version u all using?05:56
LeeJunFanAlonea: I don't think so - that shouldnt' stop it from working - only make it complain.05:56
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: you don't have your own kernel compiled do you?05:56
AloneaLeeJunFan: ok, wait, I checked and it exists, but if I try to open it with a text thing in the terminal it says not found...05:56
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LeeJunFanAlonea: maybe permissions are messed up somehow in your ~?  'sudo chown -R [username]  /home/[username] ' will fix that05:57
LeeJunFanownership I mean.05:57
hitmanWillysdlnxgk, you can always use ln to create it05:58
boblenyDoes anyone in here have truecrypt for linux? If so, could you tell me how to create a volume with a password and a keyfile? When I use "truecrypt -c", I go through the prompts just fine, but then it promts me for "Enter keyfile path [finish] :". If I hit enter, it has a fatil error, other wise, it won't stop promptimg me for it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've looked through the man file over and over... Could someone help?05:58
hitmanWillysdlnxgk, /bin/sh is just a link to a cmd shell anyway05:58
Cosmo_anyone have a link to the 7.04 desktop torrent ?05:59
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LeeJunFanhitmanWilly: that could be his problem, maybe it linked to dash and dash isn't installed.05:59
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shawn34Cosmo_, ubunyu.com05:59
newuserhello05:59
hitmanWillyLeeJunFan, i always manually link mine to bash anyway05:59
cobrienOk...  I've done the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:59
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newuseri am trying to setup uspalsh but with no luck06:00
cobrienNow what do I do?   KDE still doesn't offer the option of changing the rez.06:00
cobrienThe max is still 80006:00
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: /bin/sh links to /bin/dash by default now instead of bash, so if dash is somehow missing or the link didn't get created you may need to make a link for /bin/sh06:00
loki_so i upgraded to 7.04 and now i can't get into kde :|06:00
LeeJunFanhitmanWilly: me too.06:00
steve_bobbleny, I use TrueCrypt extensively.  One problem I should alert you to is that the newest version of Ubuntu (Feisty) has kernel issues with TrueCrypt.  What version of Ubuntu are you running?06:00
newuserhas anyone setup uspalsh on kubuntu 7.0406:00
loki_err kdm or whatever doesn't load after getting 7.0406:00
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Cosmo_shawn34: duh, don't know why I didn't think to just check that, too easy I guess  =)06:01
LeeJunFanloki_: do you get any GUI stuff or just the text console?06:01
loki_i get that loading gui06:01
loki_and then kicks me to the command line06:01
JisaoHow to I find the IP address of a URL?06:01
loki_right now there's just a blinking cursor06:01
boblenysteve_: I am using edgy eft.06:01
AloneaLeeJunFan: when I do sudo apt-get update there are some edgy sources mixed in there. could that be it?06:01
LeeJunFanloki_: try reconfiguring X with this command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg'06:01
loki_ok06:02
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LeeJunFanAlonea: I suppose it's possible, but I've never seen that error so I'm not really sure what the cause is of it.06:02
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AloneaLeeJunFan: How would I stop it from looking at the edgy source its looking at? its not in my sources.list06:02
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newuserusplash bootsplash anyone ?   i am unable to setup usplash on kubuntu 7.04 , anyone has had luck with it ?06:03
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ubuntuI'm back and its a no go06:03
loki_ok same blinking cursor again06:03
ubuntubut at least I did gain a command prompt06:04
cobrienLeeJunFan: i did that, but the KDE's max is still 800.06:04
AloneaE: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header...06:04
LeeJunFanAlonea: if they aren't in your sources.list they may be in the sources.d dir?06:04
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boblenysteve_: would it be possible to speak to on a less busy channel? Say #bob?06:04
steve_bobleny, I'm glad to hear you're running Edgy. TrueCrypt will work with Edgy. (Please don't upgrade to Feisty just yet; they are making some adjustments to TrueCrypt to familiarize it with the new kernel.)  Now, as to your problem, let me ask, did you install from a .deb file, or did you compile it yourself?06:04
maniac#bob06:05
ubuntutyped in kde at the prompt: it tried to load, but kicked me out06:05
maniacanyone here know how to install kubuntu on the hard drive WITHOUT messing up the vista boot config?06:05
hitmanWillyubuntu, try startx06:05
ubuntuthen I typed it again: bad command06:05
maniaclast time i tried.....it erased it06:05
LeeJunFancobrien: hrm, if you have a look at your xorg.conf again, make sure it still says 1280x1024, kde-guidance will try to autodetect your video hardware and can overwrite your X config - something I don't really agree with, but the aim was to make it so people could swap gfx cards and still have a working X.06:05
ubuntuahhh, ok06:06
xjkxyou sure that add/remove thing on kubuntu is app-install-data ? i installed it here on debian (using ubuntu source) and there was no binaries ! there is one with binaries, gnome-app-install, but this one surely is not Kde things06:06
ubuntureboot again06:06
loki_ok got it working, had to reinstall the nvidia driver06:06
boblenysteve_: um... I don't remeber, I belive I belive I downloaded the file from the truecrypt site, and followed a online guide to install it.06:06
steve_moving to #bob; see you there in a moment.06:06
LeeJunFanloki_: cool - so you're all set now?06:06
xjkxcould anyone run the add/remove thing and run ps -aux and tell me the exactly name? :D06:07
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xjkxexact*06:07
hitmanWillyxjkx, adept_installer06:07
xjkxthanks06:07
maniacanyone know about a linux version/thing of .NET?06:08
maniacas in if it exists06:08
maniac?06:08
LeeJunFan!info mono06:08
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB06:08
maniacwhat do i use to compile the source?06:08
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LeeJunFanmy brain almost imploded trying to remember the name of that. hehe06:09
LeeJunFan!build06:09
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:09
maniaci have like 20 projects i wanna port to linux from .NET06:09
LeeJunFanoh, to build for .net - I have no idea. Never worked with it - I've been trying to avoid all MS related things for years now.06:10
cobrienLeeJunFan: sorry for being dull here..  but how do I open kde-guidance?06:10
ShaddoxHi everyone.06:10
ShaddoxI have a question.06:10
LeeJunFancobrien: you don't really, it's just something that's run during startup, first you want to make sure that's your problem.06:10
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LeeJunFancobrien: if you're xorg.conf still has 1280x1024 then that's probably not your problem.06:10
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maniac"https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware" doesn't say anything about compiling Mono06:11
maniac:P06:11
cobrienLeeJunFan: yeah...  1280x1024 is the only one on my color depth of 24...  24 is set to default.06:12
AloneaLeeJunFan: Do you know what preferences file it is talking about?06:12
phyerbossAAAARGH!!!06:12
phyerbossIm seriously at the end of my rope here withthis network playback06:12
LeeJunFanAlonea: sorry - I must have missed something, I didn't see anything about a preferences file.06:12
AloneaLeeJunFan: nm, I think I just found it. E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header06:13
LeeJunFancobrien: hrm, this isn't making much sense. Is the 1280x1024 the first one listed (leftmost)? It should start with the one listed to the leftmost.06:13
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phyerbossall i know is when i for the absolute 1st time installed kubuntu & also pclinux on another occasion, I could stream my movies & mp3's over my network from 1 machine to this06:13
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cobrienLeeJunFan: yeah... it's the leftmost one..06:14
phyerbossnow ever since I dropped pclinux and came back to kubuntu, I cannot do it06:14
cobrienLeeJunFan: might be that my monitor is set too low?06:14
phyerbossamarok & kaffeine both keep telling me i have missing plugins06:14
AloneaLeeJunFan: figured it out. pref. file I added was messed up06:14
phyerbossyet i dont know what they are06:14
LeeJunFancobrien: could be - depending on the monitor, but normally the PC decides the resolution the monitor is "supposed" to follow. However if the monitor reports to the PC that it can't support X resolution then Xorg won't try to use t.06:15
phyerbossi just about installed any and everything marked "network" as far as mp3, avi, mov, mpeg...etc06:15
cobrienLeeJunFan: wild...06:15
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LeeJunFancobrien: when the monitor is connected it gives the PC a list of resolutions it supports, (if it's vesa compliant - which all new monitors usually are), X should be able to use any of those, but if there's some setting in the monitor that will make it not report that the higher resolutions are available then X won't try to use them.06:17
RoboSheepI just tried Beryl and my windows' title bars disappeared.06:18
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renatois anyone else's browsing experience with Feisty a lil buggy?06:19
ubuntustartx took me further06:19
cobrienLeeJunFan: looks like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any options is taking me through everything.06:19
cobrienwe'll see what happens.06:19
LeeJunFanRoboSheep: beryl probably crashed, did you install emerald or aquamarine as well?06:19
ubuntubut still nothing06:19
RoboSheepEmerald06:19
ubuntuI am hearing more and more about feisty is 'living up to its name'06:19
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LeeJunFanRoboSheep: beryl has a habbit of crashing sometimes like that, if you have the beryl-manager running (red diamond icon in your task tray) right click and restart window manager.06:20
RoboSheepok thanks06:20
sdlnxgkok got all booted up on laptop06:20
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: got a new message this time when booting up06:20
ubuntuno probs on dapper, till it started getting 'messed with'06:21
sdlnxgkBusy box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.06:21
renatoI have the overall feeling that Feisty is buggy06:22
cobrienLeeJunFan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any options is what did it.06:22
sdlnxgk"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"06:22
ubuntuthats why Ii'm going to get a fresh install of edgy06:22
phyerbosshey LeeJunFan, since we're on the Beryl thing, I have it installed as well. I can use the 3d effects but no window borders...is Aquamarine and emerald all you can use?06:22
LeeJunFancobrien: odd, but good I guess.06:22
ubuntumy friends have no probs with it06:22
LeeJunFanphyerboss: all I've ever used, I like emerald.06:22
renatoyeah, I didn't have probs with it as well06:23
ubuntuI have dapper, but its too out dated06:23
renatobut I wanted the new thing06:23
phyerbosshmm...let me try that then06:23
ubuntuknow what you mean06:23
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: how can I  link that like you were saying before??06:23
renatoit's buggy, and it doesn't have anything new06:23
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ubuntuI hear that the new suse is nice though06:24
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: well - it dropped you in busybox tells me that initrd didn't finish - what I'd try is booting with init=/bin/bash option, that should get you to a working console where you can make the symlink you need.06:24
ubuntukeeping my options open06:24
renatoI tried suse, and if you ever had edgy, you'll think it's crap06:24
pdroyI dont think anything can beat the Ubuntu base06:24
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: so when the grub menu comes up hit e06:24
ShaddoxHi everyone.06:24
ubuntuoh really?06:24
renatothe loader screen on suse is cool though06:25
ubuntuis edgy that different from dapper?06:25
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: then choose the line with all the kernel options, etc, add init=/bin/bash, hit enter, b to boot, then when it boots do rm -f /bin/sh && ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh06:25
renatoedgy is a giant leap from dapper06:25
ubuntuwow06:25
renatofeisty isn't06:25
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sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: I don't never see the grub option when i'ts loading06:26
ubuntudo you use 32 or 64 bit version?06:26
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sdlnxgkbut i'll give a try06:26
LeeJunFanno, feisty isn't much diff than edgy on the surface, and most of the core changes (under the hood) aren't very noticeable.06:26
renatosdlnxgk: that is probably because you are not dual booting06:26
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: should have a "hit escape for grub menu" or something to that effect.06:27
LeeJunFanor that06:27
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sdlnxgkrenato: correct I don't have a dual boot system...06:27
ShaddoxHi everyone again ^^06:27
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renatosdlnxgk:  lucky you, lol06:27
david_Hello again... i edited xorg.conf, but it won't let me save it because I'm not the root user.... i'm sure there's a simple way to get around this...06:27
LeeJunFansdlnxgk: it should have the "hit escape" message for 3 or 5 sec before it boots then.06:27
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan:  will give that a try  right now then ;)06:28
hitmanWilly!sudo | david06:28
ubotudavid: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:28
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Aloneaok, I installed the XGL, but when I put in beryl in the terminal, it says AIGLX...06:28
renatodavid_: but this time type sudo before everything you did06:28
sdlnxgkI have win xp  this  laptop only for my g/f she is a non linux user and needs it for her work at school06:28
david_hmm....06:28
adydasWhats a good image batch resizeing program06:29
renatodavid_: if you didn't use a terminal you probably tried to write the file with kate or something06:29
adydasKDE based06:29
david_LOL yeah exactly......06:29
ubuntuok folks, good night06:29
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renatodavid_: if you are running kubuntu, you shoul right click on the file, and go to "actions" and then click on "edit as root"06:30
ubuntunice talking to you renato06:30
ubuntulater06:30
sdlnxgkNight ubuntu06:30
renatoyou too ubuntu06:30
david_sweet... edit as root06:30
renatothere you go david_06:31
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sdlnxgkI like using kdesu <program_name> to run as root ;)06:31
david_ahhh success06:32
userbnhalo06:32
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renatonice dave06:32
sdlnxgkLeeJunFan: no  good hitting esc only changes from 1 to 0 and still stalls and gives that same message06:32
userbnnick ku jadi apaan yha?06:32
renatodon't forget to tip your waiter06:32
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david_<hugz> hehe06:33
renatonot in a gay way, lol06:33
phyerbosswell, that "borked" bad^^...still getting boderless windows...even worse, now I cant see my kicker menu06:35
phyerbossits all blacked out06:35
phyerbossbut i can rotate and zoom^^06:36
phyerbosshahaha06:36
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hitmanWillyphyerboss, do you use an nvidia card?06:36
phyerbossyeah06:36
renatoI once had dapper installed on my laptop, and decided to try out the suspend mode, and it crashed so badly I had to reinstall the whole os06:37
hitmanWillyphyerboss, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals in a terminal, then restart x06:37
phyerbossits integrated vid(6100-m9)06:37
renatosince then, I leave everything as it is phyerboss06:37
phyerbossproblem: I cant see anything in the kicker menu to bring up my terminal06:37
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lnxkdenice06:38
hitmanWillyphyerboss, oh wait, this isn't a beryl issues is it?06:38
lnxkdeKubuntu and Ubuntu 7.04 wont boot on my desktop06:38
lnxkde:/06:38
phyerbossits beryl06:38
hitmanWillyphyerboss, ok, that will fix the borderless windows06:38
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hitmanWillyphyerboss, alt-f2 then type konsole06:39
Aloneaanyone know anything about beryl? I installed it, but when I put in beryl in the terminal, it says AIGLX, instead of the XGL i installed..06:39
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hitmanWillyphyerboss, will get you a terminal06:39
renatoreally? does Kubuntu come with beryl?06:39
phyerbosshey thanks06:39
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adydasNo renato06:40
renatoand it works?06:40
renatooh, I thought so adydas06:40
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phyerbosshitmanWilly: no good=\06:41
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phyerbossrestart x06:41
phyerbossbash: restart: command not found06:41
phyerbossthats what I get when I restart x06:42
phyerbossthe previous command you told me, went in fine06:42
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phyerbossit just wont restart the xserver06:42
xjkxWhat mp3 player comes on kubuntu by default?06:42
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renatoamarok06:42
hitmanWillyphyerboss, try ctrl-alt-bksp to restart x06:42
renatosweet if you ask me xjkx06:43
Alonea"Feisty's X.org 7.2 includes AIGLX, and it's enabled by default." is there a way to disable it?06:43
adydasrenato: do you want kubuntu with Berly06:43
adydasrenato: do you use Nvida?06:43
renatonot at all, thak you adydas06:43
surgy!iso06:43
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:43
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xjkxrenato, sweet, but heard its heavy06:43
adydasah ok, i was going to suggest a cool howto06:43
adydasi got beryl going in 5 command line steps06:44
adydaswith a Nvidia car06:44
adydasd06:44
renatoI bet it's heavy if you install on ubuntu, because it has to install everything that kde has that gnome doesn't xjkx06:44
xjkxo.o06:44
renatoI tried suse with compiz preinstalled, and it just didn't do it for me adydas06:44
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xjkxrenato, do you know which one comes on ubuntu? I am like comparing06:45
renatoI think amarok is the only thing in K that I am 100% satisfied with06:45
pdroyrenato: thats not a fair analysis06:45
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pdroythat are lot of other things06:45
renatorhytmbox I believe, xjkx06:46
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phyerbossuh...guess beryl is out the question for me^^06:46
xjkxnever heard about rhytmbox :>06:46
renatowhat is pdroy06:46
renato??06:46
xjkxrenato, you sure its typed right, couldnt find such package06:46
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renatorhythmbox06:47
pdroyThere are lot of other things than amarok thats good on K, I have fonund most of the times in my office, to work with many other OS in a network K is the best06:47
andrewkki just slammed my laptop on the desk; how do i run a disk check on the root partition?06:47
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phyerbosspdroy: what are you using to play music over a network?06:48
renatoI know things are good pdroy, I'm nothing but a Kub lover, but not everything gives me a 100% satisfaction06:48
pdroyphyerboss: sorry didnt have to do that yet06:48
phyerbossok06:48
pdroythat you re right, renato; I dont like konq for browsing06:49
renatofor example, or Kopete06:49
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LeeJunFanI love konq for browsing - when it works.06:49
adydasrenato: sweet as, to be fair i installed it and i Never use it.. standard KDE does my needs fine unless im showing off06:49
adydasthe novety wears right off06:49
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pdroyam using Kopete now, I used to use Gaim beofre06:49
pdroy*before06:49
renatoexactly adydas, and it wears off quickly06:49
renatoand you're left with a resource eating monster adydas06:50
pdroyI have shifted to G more than 3 times and then after a month I finally end up with K :)06:51
renatoyeah, pdroy, but if you've used live messenger or yahoo m, neither Kopete or Gaim will be enough06:51
renatoand that's just because of "being used to" reasons06:51
pdroyI actually did not know K when I first started with RH, it used to log in to G and I used to think that was Linux, only almost after a year I knew about different Desktops :)06:51
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LeeJunFanpdroy: you're lucky, I started before KDE.06:52
LeeJunFanpdroy: FVWM and windowmaker were the best available in those days.06:52
renatoI once tried fluxbox, what the hell is that, I couldn't even get it to start a terminal06:52
pdroy:)06:53
pdroyI'v tried it too once06:53
LeeJunFanI don't miss the days of having to use a text editor to edit the menu's. And it was only within the last year I think that gnome finally got a menu editor.06:53
renatoMy problem is that I'm a Kubuntu preacher, but not a convert06:53
pdroyhehehe06:53
pdroyI was very cunning in my office, I was incharge of choosing the desktop for my department, so I choose K as standard :)06:54
renatoand it's because I know the MS Office like the palm of my hand and I never get the same results with openoffice.org, aside of the part where it keeps crashing and it takes a lifetime to start06:55
pdroyEven configuring a printer was difficult in G06:55
pdroyrenato: same here, so I got Crossover Office  and then installed MS office06:55
LeeJunFanMy local library wanted Linux, so I gave them a 25 workstations netbooting from an NFS server, all kubuntu.06:55
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JackPhilHi, it seems apache2 can't stop, and I couldnt upgrade to feisty06:56
renatoand the other passion I have, is animating and I do it with Flash, and what's available for linux, hasn't gotten there06:56
_ronLeeJunFan: Nice!06:56
_ronLeeJunFan: Was that difficult to set up?06:56
LeeJunFanastonishingly people weren't afraid of it, and there have been very little support issues.06:57
renatodoes MS office work fine for you, pdroy?06:57
pdroyIt works like a charm06:57
LeeJunFan_ron: not once I got unionfs to work on the root fs.06:57
renatoon linux, because I wine it, but it has too many bugs06:57
pdroyOO keeps on crashing all the time for me06:57
pdroyWine was a problem, you should try Cross over office06:57
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renatoI'll look into it06:58
ozymandiasso, how do we get compiz working in fiesty with kde?06:58
pdroywww.codeweavers.com/products06:58
renatothanks! pdroy06:58
pdroy:)06:58
LeeJunFan_ron: unionfs was the hardest part, had to hack up initrd's init script to get it to mount everything right, and learning that the preloading used in ubuntu broke unionfs.06:58
LeeJunFanonce I turned off preloading it worked great.06:59
ozymandiasanyone have a link to a guide on getting compiz-kde working?06:59
renatothe other thing is spss, I need it, and I just find R too complicated to do survey analysis06:59
_ronleejunfan: sounds like a pain. So are all the workstations hard drive-less?06:59
LeeJunFan!beryl06:59
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:59
LeeJunFan_ron: yeah, HD's are there, but unused.07:00
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LeeJunFan_ron: well, I take that back, they load the pxe image from the HD's because the stupid bios in the machines had a menu for the netboot which I couldn't get around in bios options, so I had it boot the PXE from the hd.07:00
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ozymandiasi take that as a no....07:01
LeeJunFanso I just made a pxe image for the network cards they had and dd'ed it to the first sectors of the HD :)07:02
renatoozymandias, that meant, try the beryl option07:02
numantoday i switch to kde session through session manager and after i applied the updates it ask me to upgrade to kde 7.04 feisty fawn? i want to ask you people that is it the stable release or still testing?07:02
phyerbossWOAH!07:02
renatoor do you really really want compiz?07:02
_ronLeeJunFan: That's still sweet.  Do you know if it is possible to dual boot into a network?07:02
phyerbosshey! Beryl works now07:02
renatostable numan07:02
ozymandiasi havent really looked into beryl much, but everything i have seen said compiz is much more stable07:02
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achillesaloha07:02
renatostable but sucky, lol numan07:03
achillesanyone aware of Amarok problem after new kernel image update07:03
numanrenato: this means that another testing distribution is released?07:03
LeeJunFan_ron: yeah, if you mean have grub load on the local HD, and have the option to boot a local OS or a network one? It's doable.07:03
achillesAmarok is hanging and taking hell lot of time to start07:03
phyerbossaloha achilles07:03
achillesthat is after update07:03
phyerbossyou in Hawaii?07:03
achilleshi phyerboss07:03
achilleslol no am in India07:04
renatono, numan, it's not thesting anymore07:04
phyerbossah07:04
phyerbossok07:04
achillesphyerboss: you have any idea baout the prob07:04
renatoit's 7.0407:04
surgyok heres my problem, im on a live cd which will not install, the cd is broken, i have no os, only one cdrw, and a mounted feisty.iso, i need to install feisty from the iso, i need help07:04
numanrenato: whats sucky about it? so i stay away from this upgrade?07:04
achillesanybody my Amrok is hanging07:04
phyerbossno idea07:04
phyerbossit plays fine for me07:04
achillesit stucks and takes hell lotof time to start07:04
phyerbossmy only issue is playing files over my network07:05
achillesi tried removing as well07:05
achillespdated to 1.4.4 as well07:05
achillesbut no luck07:05
renatowell, for me it's the whole browsing experience, it hangs for some reasons with konqueror and for other reasons with firefox07:05
phyerbossother than that, everything plays fine07:05
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phyerbossif the files are locally on the machine07:05
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renatoOO takes like six million years to load07:05
achillesit was working good earlier its just recently the moment you change track it hangs07:05
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surgyanyone?07:06
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achillesdont really know whats the prob07:07
numanrenato: even if i amrunning edgy konqueror also dont work fine for me, it takes some time to load the page while firefox or iceweasel is faster07:07
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Kanthello07:07
ShaddoxHi everyone. What's the difference between Amarok and Kaffeine media players?07:07
achillesand yeah another issue my superkaramba theme Liquid weather also stopped working07:07
achillesjust wondering whats happening07:07
Kantdoes anybody get a "grub error 15" after a clean install of kubuntu feisty?07:07
achillesAmrok is hanging and Liquid weather stopped working07:07
Kantamarok is intended for audio07:08
ShaddoxKant: That means the install failed.07:08
ShaddoxKant: I had that last night. Just re-boot off of the CD and try the install again.07:08
renatoI got the grub error 15, but it was not a clean install07:08
Kantthe question is, where did it fail?07:08
renatoexactly Shaddox07:08
Kantmine WAS a clean install07:08
ShaddoxKant: Did your system reach a critical temperature during install?07:08
Kantno07:08
ShaddoxKant: That's usually 80 degrees celsius.07:09
numanso i think new upgrade has some problems (myabe due to instant release) thats why many are looking for help here after upgrade?07:09
KantI can try it again with the air conditioner turned on07:09
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andreahello everybody07:09
andreagotta a problem07:09
ShaddoxKant: I tried to clean install yesterday and reached a critical temperature, and my system automatically shut down and I got that same error when I tried to boot.07:09
andreai just updated to feisty07:09
Kantupgrade or clean install?07:09
andreabut as soon as i rebooted the boot stopped to the load of Xorg07:10
Doctor_Nickugghghhg07:10
andreausually only a dpkg-reconfigure was necessary07:11
andreabut now nothing :(07:11
andreastartx keep failing07:11
Kantit's winter here, I don't overclock, and my processor always runs cool07:11
Kanttempreture is not the issue here07:11
Doctor_Nickafter I installed kdemultimedia, kaffeine stopped working properly and vlc doesnt work07:11
Doctor_Nickand i cant uninstall it07:11
Kantkdemultimedia is a metapackage07:11
renatowell, reinstalling worked for me, Kant07:11
andreacan somebody help me getting back the graphic mode?07:11
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Kantit basically installs nothing, it's pure dependencies07:12
ForgeAushey all :)07:12
Doctor_Nickkant: I know07:12
renatotry the alternate cd07:12
KantI'll try reinstalling... again ~_~07:12
ShaddoxCan someone tell me the differences between Amarok and Kaffeine?07:12
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Doctor_Nickamarok is a music player07:12
Doctor_Nickkaffeine is a video player07:12
Kant_brbamarok is intended putely for audio07:12
ShaddoxAh.h.07:12
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renatoalthough it (kaffeine) does not do a very good job at that07:13
renatoand what's up with the gnome feel to it07:14
ShaddoxAmarok it is. ^^07:14
renatoAmarok rules if you ask me07:15
Doctor_NickKant: its a problem with xine07:15
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renatoAmarok and K3b are the things on Kub that I'm a 100% happy with07:16
{GuNNeR}has anyone tried SongBird?07:16
renatonot me, no07:16
ShaddoxI'm a new Kubuntu user07:16
ShaddoxUnder 24 hours ^^07:16
Shaddox48**07:17
renatoKubuntu has made me very happy07:17
pdroyme too07:17
{GuNNeR}yea I just switched to Kubuntu from Gentoo - must say I'm impressed with Kubuntu07:17
renatobut I haven't fully switched07:17
Doctor_Nickvideo isnt playing correctly anymore :/07:17
pdroyrenato: so what else are you using ?07:18
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renatodum dum duuuuum, Windows XPsp207:18
renato:-P07:18
pdroyhehehe07:18
renatocan't leave that bastard07:18
czer323XP > Vista? ;)07:19
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{GuNNeR}hehe I tried a free copy of vista ultimate that microsoft sent to me...had that installed only long enough to download the Kubuntu dvd ;)07:19
renatoI wouldn't even dare try Vista07:19
pdroyI had to use XP blue tooth earlier, but that got into Kubutnu long time back07:19
andreais the wrecking of the X server a common feisty update problem?07:19
andreacan somebody give me some help to solve it?07:19
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renatoFeisty is buggy, if you ask me, andy07:19
andreamhh07:20
ShaddoxNah07:20
Shaddoxi installed with no x-server problems07:20
pdroyI just installed Feisty, ony 2 hrs old07:20
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renatowell, me too, but from the CD, the update didn't go smoothly07:20
renatotry downloading the cd, andrea, and install from it07:20
renatoworked for me07:20
se7eni need some help with amarok trancode what lib do i need to make it work07:21
{GuNNeR}I tried doing the online update but kept running into problems so I just did a clean install07:21
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ShaddoxGrrrr.07:21
ShaddoxKopete has a habit of crashing, too...07:21
renatoKopete sucks ass07:21
ShaddoxI know07:21
renatoand Gaim too07:21
ShaddoxBut I do tech support and webhosting for people07:21
ShaddoxI use IM as the main form of tech support, so I need to be on all platforms and such07:22
renatoI just take my instant messaging needs to windoze and live messenger or yahoo m07:22
ShaddoxSo I kinda like kopete, cause at least it makes everything simple, and even has IRC. ^^07:22
renatothat is true, Shaddox07:22
Shaddoxplus managing five different irc/im apps will run my temperature to the critical level X_x07:23
_ronrenato: what do you recommend then?07:23
Shaddoxitll run anyone, ^^07:23
renatoto what?07:23
_ronrenato: IM07:23
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_ronrenato: Nevermind, I see it now, sorry07:23
renatohehe07:23
renatosorry07:23
KantKopete is nice, but last time I used it there was a lot of instability07:24
renatoKubuntu preacher but not a convert07:24
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_ronrenato: I like the newest version of Gaim, for both windows and linux.07:24
Kantis kopete in feisty more stable than in edgy?07:24
_ronKant: not in my experience.07:24
Kantugh07:25
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Kantthen it's mercury again for the MSNMSG IMing07:25
vbgunzKDE 4 won't make it into Gutsy Gibbon right? 7.10? chances are it'll definitely make it into Honey Ham 8.04?07:25
_ronKant: I have had very good experiences with Gaim in the later versions though.07:25
phyerbossKant: as far as i can tell07:25
KantHoney Harm? :P07:25
phyerbosskopete seems stable07:25
{GuNNeR}never had any issues with kopete07:25
renatoI would love a version of live messenger or yahoo m for linux, but I know it'll never happen, _ron07:25
Doctor_Nickurgh07:25
vbgunzHoney Ham > 8.04 :)07:26
Doctor_Nickit looks like im going to have to reinstall kubuntu because my codecs are fucked07:26
_ronrenato: maybe not never, just not until linux has more of a market share.07:26
Kantrenato: try mercury, it's a very complete MSNmsg clone07:26
{GuNNeR}vbgunz: I wouldn't think that KDE 4.0 would be viewed as stable enough to include in 7.1007:26
renatoreally, Kant, for linux?07:26
_ronKant: does it do webcamming, voice, etc/07:26
KantI'd wait for feisty +2 to use KDE407:26
Kantmercury is written in java07:26
vbgunz{GuNNeR}: yeah, I don't think so either07:27
Kantthat means multiplataform07:27
renatoI have never watched a video on linux07:27
vbgunzKDE4 is going to rock, I just know it :P07:27
czer323Who cares about stability?  it's all about PLAYING WITH NEW TOYS!07:27
{GuNNeR}agreed07:27
renatoit's just a pain07:27
Kanthehehe07:27
KantI just want it to work fine07:27
Kantbut improivements are welcome07:27
czer323k, you can stick with kde307:27
czer323Me?  I"M GOING TO PLAY! ;)07:28
Kantwhen kde4 is stable for desktop, I'll switch07:28
Doctor_Nickwhat i dislike about linux is its very easy to break things because of dependency hell07:28
Kanterm... no07:28
Kantit's not07:28
Kantif you have a stable system it's not07:28
vbgunzKDE4 is slated for release at the end of this year, a little bit after 7.10 so by the time it does roll around in 8.04, it should be a little more stable hopefully07:28
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czer323Doctor_Nick: or how certain programs wont' install without dependancies on other programs, Which means that the other programs whcih rely on those older versions, BREAK!07:28
czer323Oh yes, i know.07:29
Doctor_Nickafter one day xine is no longer working and gstreamer isnt working quite right07:29
renatowhat is so revolutionary about KDE407:29
renato??07:29
Doctor_Nickand synaptic thinks kaffeine is tied directly to kubuntu desktop, so i cant uninstall it07:29
Kantit's a complete redesign07:29
vbgunzrenato: it's in the 407:29
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renatohehe07:29
czer323Doctor_Nick: you can remove kubuntu-desktop.  Its' just a meta-package.07:29
Kantok, time to see if my modifications worked07:30
vbgunzI upgraded to Feisty and it feels faster than Edgy, it feels better, what happened? whats to blame?07:30
Kantsee ya in a couple of minutes07:30
Whiz2what is the command for checking free disk space on /device/hda1 ?07:30
czer323df07:30
Kantfd -hlx tmpfs07:30
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vbgunzWhiz2: try this: df -h|grep ^/07:30
renatowell, I decided to turn this computer into a server to play with forum and wiki and ftp and web applications07:31
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Whiz2vbgunz: df invalid option -- g07:31
renatoget me one of those co.nr domain names and toy around07:31
ShaddoxHehe07:32
ShaddoxI gots me 4 .coms :D07:32
cobrienDo I need to grab the latest nvidia drivers to use beryl?07:32
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Shaddoxarchonstudios.com, cold-forces.com, coldforces.com, and archonhosting.com >:D07:32
vbgunzWhiz2: copy and paste, it should work if you have "df"07:32
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renatohow much do you pay for them Shaddox?07:32
vbgunzWhiz2: and grep07:32
cobrienI can tell already that it chose a nvidia driver "nv" for X07:32
akrus.oO Gutsy Repository is already available? :o07:32
Shaddox10$/year, each, through Yahoo smallbusiness07:32
renatooh, yeah and you serve from home?07:33
xjkxBy default, kubuntu comes only with konqueror? :O07:33
ShaddoxArchon Hosting from home07:33
renatoyes xjkx07:33
ShaddoxThe rest on Pandela [free webhoster, but has stopped accepting signups] 07:33
Whiz2vbgunz: I can't paste. i'm using putty to login. is thatt a pipe, or an L?07:33
ShaddoxArchon Hosting I bought last week to learn to home-host. ^^07:33
xjkxrenato, would firefox want me to install gnome-things ?07:33
vbgunzWhiz2: a pipe07:33
renatothey had a fight over logos a while ago and Kubuntu said the hell with them, xjkx07:33
cobrienDoes Evolution have more interoperability features than Kontact?  I've seen stuff like being able to synchronize with google calendar with Evolution...  is that possible with Kontact?07:34
renatono, just sudo apt-get install firefox on a terminal and that's it xjkx07:34
xjkx"with them" you mean firefox?07:34
renatoyeah, the firefox team07:34
renatothey are very strict with their branding07:34
vbgunzI use to dislike installing KDE apps in Gnome because they looked butchered *but* on KDE, Gnome apps look as native as KDE which is pretty sweet... I still wish I could use the KDE dialogs instead of the Gnome ones :(07:34
xjkxrenato, i am making a description xD I have firefox already :> but i would like to know if firefox would put unwanted libs there, such as gnome things07:35
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renatonope, xjkx07:35
xjkx:o thanks07:35
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ForgeAusI agree vbgunz for the most part07:35
ForgeAustoo much linux seems to default to gnome07:36
ShaddoxUh, question.07:36
ShaddoxHow do I get MP3 support in Amarok?07:36
Whiz2i'm trying to install qpopper on on my linus server using instruction found in thier documentation, but i keep getting an error that says "c compiler can not create executables"07:36
renatoI think Gnome looks old technology, I know it isn't, but it feels like it07:36
vbgunzxjkx: there is no real need in avoiding Gnome applications. Gnome will open up a whole other world of great apps... albeit shi**y dialogs but none-the-less great apps07:36
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Whiz2i have 120MB free07:36
xjkxrenato, thats crazy ubuntu comes with firefox and kubuntu doesnt, if they faught, they would have faught in both buntus07:36
ShaddoxUh, how do I get MP3 support in Amarok?07:36
renatoShaddox: Just try to play an mp3 on Amarok and it'll prompt for the mp3 support install07:36
vbgunzShaddox: are you on Feisty?07:37
ShaddoxI do, and it stops responding.07:37
ShaddoxYeah.07:37
nightskyShaddox install libmad007:37
vbgunzsudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras07:37
Shaddoxok ok hold on ^^07:37
vbgunz"sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" only works in Feisty07:37
renatono, really, it was news for a while xjkx07:37
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Whiz2can someone help me out here? I can't seem to get QPopper running, so I need to download, and install a decent pop server for my system.07:38
renatoback then Kubuntu wasn't fully recognized as a canonical son07:38
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Whiz2note that i'm running dapper07:38
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Kanthi again07:38
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Kantdidn't work =S07:38
Kantwhiz2: that explains why you have a working system =P07:39
ionuswhy in wine game run more slowly07:39
ionus?07:39
Whiz2Hmm... (noting a comment about feisty being quicker) if i upgrade to feisty will it take up more, or less space on my drive?07:40
renatothat has something to do with your video card driver ionus07:40
akrusShaddox: libxine-extracodecs07:40
_ronwhiz2: I am upgrading from dapper right now... they made fun of me. lol07:40
xjkxwhat image editor comes by default on kubuntu?07:40
vbgunzI've got to give wine another try... I remember trying to install some old games onto it to keep me from going insane, nothing I installed ever worked with it :(07:40
ShaddoxI'm installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, it has the mpeg drivers in it, that's what i need07:40
ionusrenato what?07:40
Tired_vbgunz -> yes, it contains the dvd stuff07:40
Kantwell, feisty is theoretically quicker07:40
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vbgunzTired_: really?07:40
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Tired_better late than never07:40
Kantit has a linking method that makes prelink unnescesary07:40
Tired_yep07:40
Kantit has upstart07:40
Tired_just finished installing now07:40
ionusbut i hawe inslaled video driver07:40
vbgunzTired_: thanks for getting back to me 183Hrs after i asked :P07:40
renatowell, by default kub installs a generic driver for your card07:40
Whiz2Kant yeah, but is it smaller? that's why i think it might be quicker07:41
Tired_my pleasure  :)07:41
ionusbut i hawe inslaled video driver07:41
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renatooh, don't know then07:41
KantI do not think the difference is very big07:41
xjkxrenato, do you know what default image editor come on kubuntu? :D07:41
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KantI mean, +/- 100MB maybe07:41
renatoeditor, hmm07:41
vbgunzxjkx: krita07:41
renatohold on07:41
Kantkolourpaint_07:41
ionusok07:41
xjkxnever heard of krita, is it as powerful as gimp?07:42
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vbgunzxjkx: krita is like illustrator, the gimp is like Photoshop07:42
renatowell, actually, Kub does not come with krita07:42
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Whiz2can someone suggest a pop email server that i can apt-get and run without having to install other stuff? (tried with qpopper, but didn't install right)07:42
vbgunzrenato: you sure?07:42
flaccid!info krita07:42
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB07:42
vbgunzrenato: they took it out of 7.04?07:42
renatoI think so, yeah07:43
vbgunzoh, I upgraded so still have it from 6.1007:43
renatoI don't think it came with edgy either07:43
xjkxvbgunz, sorry i havent tried illustrator either07:43
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akrusGwenview is now by default :)07:43
ionusok07:43
renatolike, out of the box07:43
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Whiz2would feisty be smaller than dapper? ;-)07:43
Kantgwenview comes with feisty07:43
renatogwenview is just a viewer07:43
vbgunzrenato: I think it came in Edgy07:43
KantI have it here in the livecd07:43
vbgunzI don't remember installing it07:43
akrusrenato: no editor here :o07:43
kalorinheh07:43
akrusrenato: KPaint :D07:44
renatoha ha akrus07:44
kalorinwell the new ATI driver does build packages for Ubuntu/6.10 nicely07:44
flaccidthe latest gimp has sweet selection tools07:44
kalorinnow to just install them07:44
akruswell actually it's nothing installed by default07:44
_ronvbgunz: Is krita vector based?07:44
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vbgunz_ron: yes07:44
_ronvbgunz: I had no idea. lol07:44
vbgunz:)07:45
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vbgunzI believe Fesity doesn't come with OO? I mean I upgraded but don't see koffice at all in here except for karbon14 which I installed a long time ago07:45
akrusWhiz2: courier mail server? :D07:46
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akrusvbgunz: why not?07:46
ShaddoxUgh. Amarok still crashed when I tried to play an MP3.07:46
akrusOpenOffice is a part of Kubuntu :)07:46
flaccid!openoffice07:46
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org07:46
vbgunzakrus: not sure, I don't know for sure. I heard the devs were removing OO in favor of koffice07:46
renatoFeisty does come with OO vbgunz, except for the database, which is Kexi now07:46
akrusBeta was with OOo07:46
akrusas well as all alphas07:46
flaccidyou will always be able to install either07:46
Whiz2akrus what is the package name for that?07:46
vbgunzahh07:47
ShaddoxUgh, my Amarok is still crashing. X_x07:47
renatohow do you accept the sun java license agreement when sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras07:47
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_ronrenato: run it in konsole07:47
_ronrenato: sorry, misread your question07:48
akrusWhiz2: apt-cache search courier :)07:48
akrus!courier-imapd07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about courier-imapd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
akrushmm07:48
akrus!courier-pop3d07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
Whiz2akrus you're having me get IMAP?07:48
flaccid!find courier-imap07:48
ubotuFound: courier-imap, courier-imap-ssl07:48
flaccid!info courier-imap07:48
ubotucourier-imap: Courier Mail Server - IMAP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.1.1.20060828-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1540 kB07:48
_ronrenato: did you press enter until it asked you for yes or no/07:48
renatoit got to a screen about accepting sun's license agreement, but I hit enter and it doesn't do anything07:48
akrusoh great :)07:48
flaccidi do prefer dovecot myself07:48
akrusWhiz2: the same for pop :)07:49
akrus!courier-pop307:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
akrus!courier-pop07:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:49
akrus:x07:49
renatoI doesn't ask for "no", it just ask "accept"07:49
flaccidakrus: it comes with courier-imap07:49
akrusah, okay07:49
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akrusin my apt-cache search: courier-pop - Courier Mail Server - POP3 server :)07:49
Whiz2akrus try courier-pop07:49
Whiz2ok07:49
flaccidright07:50
flaccid!find courier-pop07:50
ubotuFound: courier-pop, courier-pop-ssl07:50
flaccid!info courier-pop07:50
ubotucourier-pop: Courier Mail Server - POP3 server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.53.3-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 216 kB07:50
akrusoh yeah :307:50
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flaccidhmm so it is07:50
ShaddoxAnyone know how to give Amarok MP3 support?07:50
flaccid!mp3 > Shaddox07:50
akrusShaddox: libxine-extracodecs07:50
Whiz2akrus that is tiny! :-D07:50
renatohaha, never mind, you actually had to go through all of the agreement to get to the accept thing, lol, _ron07:50
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akrusWhiz2: sure it is :)07:50
_ronrenato: XD07:50
Whiz2akrus it should work with exim right?07:50
akrusWhiz2: likely :)07:51
Whiz2akrus ty07:51
renatoas if anyone actually read agreements!!07:51
akrusrenato: you're kidding x_X07:51
_ronrenato: I know! I was frustrated that there wasn't some way to use page down instead of holding enter for eternity.07:51
renatoha ha07:51
renatoyeah07:51
Whiz2renato i read them from time to time07:51
akruswhen it's nothing to do :))07:52
renatoof course, there's always someone who wants to contradict me07:52
Whiz2akrus when i think it might actually mean something lol07:52
renatobut not actually read agreements, lol07:52
Tired_ack!  two more hours installing restriced package and still no mp3 in amarok!07:52
_ronAnyone remember the command to see your IP off the top of their head/07:52
akrus_ron: ifconfig? o_O07:52
akruswhich head? :o07:53
ShaddoxWoooo!07:53
Whiz2LOL07:53
ShaddoxAmarok gets a lot louder then Rhythmbox! :D07:53
_ronakrus: whichever head ifconfig came from worked. lol07:53
akrusShaddox: amaroK rulez all the way :)07:53
_ronbrb07:53
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Tired_um07:54
Whiz2akrus it has web-based admin... but my web server is not in the standard directory... would that be a problem?07:54
Tired_why dopes apt-get tell me to rn apt-get --fix-missing, nd then when I run it, there isn't one?07:55
ShaddoxOMFG.07:55
renatowhen I'm able to watch porn on Kubuntu that will be Windoze last day07:55
ShaddoxI had no idea Amarok had last.fm too :D07:55
renatotill then...07:55
renatoyeah, Amarok rules, I told you07:56
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firecrotchrenato: I hear that mplayer works nicely for porn07:56
Tired_Shaddox -> did you get mp3s?07:56
czer323kaffiene does too.07:56
renatoyeah, but not for web porn07:56
renatolol07:56
czer323yes, for web porn.  Drag and drop baby!07:56
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david_Ugh.. i'm back.. :)  I managed to get into the KDE control center, but it won't work properly.... So how do I install themes?07:56
hyper_chhow can I kill Zombie processes07:56
renatoand don't be a liar firecrotch "I hear"? Come on!!07:57
renatolol07:57
czer323I switched to kde for better porn streaming.07:57
Whiz2renato you just have to have the right plugins installed for streaming vids07:57
renatolike what Whiz2?07:57
akrusWhiz2: it's another webserver afaik... at another port :)07:57
firecrotchrenato: I have no need for porn - I've got a girlfriend :P07:57
Whiz2renato dunno. guess it depends on the file type you're streaming07:57
Tired_wht des 111 COnnection Refused mean when I run apt-get update ?07:58
akrusTired_: this means that connection is refused by server07:58
renatothe only thing that needs work in Amarok is the "I'm Matthias Ettrich, blah blah blah" that was just conceded of him, lol07:58
Tired_why is it refused?07:58
akrusTired_: IP ban or something like this07:58
akrusTired_: try another server07:58
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david_anyone know about installing pre-made themes?07:58
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Tired_how do I try another server?  i'm trying the canadian one now07:59
renatowell, see, that's what I mean Whiz2, with Windows Media Player I just click and voil07:59
akrusdavid_: System Settings -> Look And Feel07:59
akrusTired_: maybe it's overloaded, try us.archive.ubuntu.com07:59
Tired_how do I tell it where to go?07:59
Whiz2akrus that means i have to install another web server???07:59
akrusWhiz2: courier-webadmin is another web-server made especially for courier :)08:00
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akrusTired_: okay, open konsole, type in: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:00
akrusit will ask for your root password, it's the same as your account password if it's not changed08:00
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Tired_got it.  edit the conf file?08:01
akrusafter that replace all the *.archive.ubuntu.com08:01
Tired_ok08:01
akrus(ca.archive.ubuntu.com?)08:01
akruswith us.archive.ubuntu.com08:01
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Tired_lol, i just needed to knowthe filename  :)08:01
akrusoh okay then :)08:01
akrusgoing to drink tea now :P08:01
renatoI'm on a highway to hell is breaking my speakers. Hooray, mp3's working hee08:02
renatoIs it already five in London, akrus?08:02
renato:-P08:02
morphius_When trying to run update-manager using kdesu, I put in my password (yes it is entered correctly) and I get a message saying I incorrectly entered my password. When I then try it again I get a message saying "conversation with su failed". Su and sudo work just fine in the terminal though.08:02
akrusrenato: 10 AM in Moscow ;P08:02
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renatoheheh08:02
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Tired_works now, thanks akrus  :)08:03
Kantback, again in the livecd -_-08:03
akrusTired_: you're welcome :)08:03
david_ok.. it says "click the administrator mode button to allow modificatons."  This is for theme manager... How do I click that button?  I see none... Sorry newbie here08:04
renatoresize your window08:04
akrusrenato:08:04
jbrouhardAnyone know how to set m3u files to automatically open Amarok ?08:04
renatoresize your window david_, it's at the bottom08:04
akruslol08:04
Kantsecondary click on the file, "open with..."08:05
akrusand save it :)08:05
david_umm.... still not seeing it ....08:05
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Kantdid you know that windows can be resized with alt + right click drag?08:05
jbrouhardWell08:05
Whiz2akrus following the instructions it gave me, it can't find the webadmin pages when i enter the given url... my web server is not in the standard user directories08:05
Kantand dragged with alt + right click drag08:06
jbrouhardThat doesn't seem to work via Firefox :(08:06
kalorinanyone really good with kernel modules?08:06
renatoopen with... will not work, you need to go to right click, then actions, then edit as root!08:06
morphius_jbrouhard: You should be able to right click and go to properties. I think the last tab sets the preferences for the default application08:06
flaccidkalorin: whats the prb08:06
akrusWhiz2: hmm... that's just because of apt.. try looking for it, it should be somewhere :o you can also try searching UbuntuForums08:06
david_didn't know...08:06
kalorinflaccid: join #kalorin08:06
flaccidno08:06
Kanthere it is, the error!!!08:07
akruskalorin: i'm good at removing them :D08:07
kalorinheh08:07
kalorinwell in /usr/src/08:07
kalorinthere's a modules directory08:07
akrusrm -rf / -ftw08:07
akrus:o08:07
kalorinand a linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-1108:07
Kant"the test of the file system with type ext2 in partition #4 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) found uncorrected errors08:07
Kant"08:07
kalorinand a linux-headers-2.6.17-11.generic08:07
flaccidakrus: please don't msg that command ever08:07
kalorinwhy generic and regular directories08:07
Whiz2akrus i used apt-get install courier-webadmin to get it08:07
akrusflaccid: it's not with sudo :)08:08
akrusi hope noone is using root account there08:08
kalorinand why is the symlink to modules broken in the linux-headers-2.6.17-11 directory?08:08
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david_it doesn't look like there's an administrator button ... ?08:08
akrusWhiz2: man courier-webadmin?08:08
flaccidthats no excuse. we have new users here who might just try the command08:08
akrusflaccid: okay, sorry, forgot :)08:08
flaccidkalorin: i don't know. do you have a problem08:08
renatodid you try rezizing your window, david_?08:08
Whiz2akrus now i have another issue. :-( my pop3 client is already setup to access the server, but it won't take my linux account password08:08
kalorinwell yeah kind of08:09
kalorinupgraded to the latest ATI drivers, but it seems like the kernel modules aren't right08:09
david_yes i tried resizing the window... I don't know where to look though.... There is not button as far as I can tell.08:09
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akrusWhiz2: read the courier docu, it's not your account password08:09
flaccidkalorin: which modules. have a look at lsmod08:09
renatoit's down08:09
kalorinI'm in X and it's loaded and seems to be behaving ok but I can't run any of the fglrxinfo type stuff08:09
akrusdavid_: KDM themes?08:09
flaccidkalorin: whats the actual error08:09
kalorinum..08:10
david_yes, kdm themes....  I tried the actual theme editor, but that wouldn't work at all.. buggy08:10
akrus:d08:10
akruswell i'm experiencing the same issue :D08:10
renatodavid_: it now comes with a slider on the right. What are you complaining about? Slide it down!!08:10
david_arrgh.08:10
kalorinX Error of failed request: BadMatch ( invalid parameter attributes )08:10
kalorinfglrxinfo seems to work ok08:11
flaccidkalorin: what outputs that?08:11
kalorinit's just odd08:11
akrusdavid_: kdesu systemsettings08:11
kalorinfgl_glxgears08:11
akrusin K-Menu->Run08:11
flaccidkalorin: maybe the error is non destructive08:11
kalorinyeah but the monitor&setting applet in the KMenu/System Settings stuff hasn't worked for a while and I think it's related08:12
kalorinwhat's the danger of me dropping a modules directory in there?08:12
kalorinand doing a depmod -a08:12
kalorinwould it pop a gourd and require a livecd reboot to fix?08:12
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Kantanyone who knows how to fix this? http://xs114.xs.to/xs114/07160/inst_error.png08:13
ionusHOW TO MOUNT ISO IMAGE?08:13
flaccidkalorin: i don't see what this has to do with kernel modules08:13
ionus!ISO08:13
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:13
akrusKant: click ok? o_O08:13
kalorincause there's an fglrx.ko in there that's from 4/8/2007 (about he last time I did a driver update) compared to 4/22/0708:13
flaccidand i wouldn't worry about the gui. if you did the binary driver i wouldnt expect frontends to behave correctly at this point08:13
kalorink08:13
Kantwhen I continue I get a grub error after reboot - after a clean install!!!08:13
akrushm08:14
akrusfsck /dev/sda08:14
flaccidkalorin: im sorry i don't know if i can help. there is lots on google of this error: X Error of failed request: BadMatch ( invalid parameter attributes )  fgl_glxgears08:14
flaccidkalorin: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=S5U&q=X+Error+of+failed+request%3A+BadMatch+%28+invalid+parameter+attributes+%29++fgl_glxgears&btnG=Search08:14
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kalorinyeah08:16
Kantroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fsck /dev/sda08:16
Kantfsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)08:16
Kante2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)08:16
KantCouldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...08:16
Kantfsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda08:16
KantThe superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext208:16
Kantfilesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext208:17
Kantfilesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock08:17
Kantis corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:08:17
flaccid!pastebin > Kant08:17
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Kantsorry08:18
KantI'll use it from now on08:18
Kanthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16979/08:18
Tired_woohoo!  mp3s work!08:19
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Kantmy guess: the ext2 partition got fucked up by the ext2 windows driver >_<08:19
Kantand I don't have another drive for backup08:20
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Whiz2akrus courier-pop installed courier-base the suite comes with it's own MTA???08:20
Hail_SpacecakeI need a program08:20
Hail_Spacecakethat will take a large pdf file08:20
ShaddoxUh, question. How do I delete write-protected files in my trash can as root?08:20
Hail_Spacecakeand break it into several smaller pdf files08:20
Hail_Spacecakethat are still valid and complete pdfs08:21
Hail_Spacecakedo you guys know of any?08:21
flaccidKant: pastebin me output of sudo fdisk -l and df -h08:21
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Kanthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16980/08:22
flaccidsorry and sudo mount08:23
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flaccidand /etc/fstab08:23
Kantthis is the live CD08:23
ShaddoxUh, question.08:23
david_Hi... I just did a search and apparantly the lack of an "administrator mode" button is a known bug.  They don't know how to fix it though.08:23
ShaddoxA bunch of files were accidentally deleted from my home folder.08:23
ShaddoxEr, nevermind.08:23
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flaccidok08:24
david_So thanks to those trying to help...but I guess it's a prob..... Does anybody here like Fedora Core?  Is it at all usable?08:24
jbrouhardFedora Core sucks08:24
Kantflaccid, could you repeat me the command you asked the output of?08:24
david_really?  how come jbrouhard?08:24
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jbrouhardThe concept of "Bloatware" comes to mind08:25
flaccidKant: its ok08:25
drumline_Anyone know why an NTFS formatted external drive will pop up in KDE, but then fail to automount?    I don't see it in /dev/ also08:25
david_Heh.  bloatwawre08:25
soulrider_david_:08:25
drumline_I see an hdc in /dev/, but there are no partitions on it.08:25
jbrouharddrumline_: Could be cause you need to sudo mount it...08:25
soulrider_theres somethign you can do08:25
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david_really soulrider?08:25
ShaddoxUh, question everyone.08:25
soulrider_david_: press alt + f2 and type "kdesu kcontrol"08:25
soulrider_that will runt he control center as root08:25
Tired_There's a concept I don't understand.  When I write to a SMB share from Kubuntu, what's actually doing the writing?08:25
soulrider_if you do so i dont think youll need the admin button08:25
ShaddoxQuestion: How do I open another KDE window in xnest?08:26
david_I'll try it.  thanks soulrider....08:26
soulrider_Tired_: the host i think08:26
ShaddoxIs it xnest :1 startkde?08:26
Tired_Is t the Kubuntu box, or the Windows box that has the drive?08:26
soulrider_Tired_: the windows machine08:26
flaccidKant: try doing sudo fsck /dev/sda108:26
Tired_so I don't need NTFS write drivers to write to NTFS formatted shares?08:26
jbrouhardNope08:26
david_konsole gave me Error: bad device08:26
jbrouhardTired_: you only need that if you directly mount a NTFS drive08:27
soulrider_david_: ignore all those x server errors08:27
drumline_jbrouhard: not in this case...  I run around as 'sudo -i'  :)08:27
jbrouharda shared drive works over a SMB block.08:27
Tired_nope, I don't wanna do that, just SMB08:27
Tired_so, basically the whole reason I was afraid of Linux was wrong.08:27
Tired_lol08:27
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soulrider_lol Tired_08:27
soulrider_Tired_: LINUX ROCKSSSSSSSS!08:27
Tired_i'm noticing that08:27
drumline_What's the easy way to get at my SMB shares on this network?08:28
david_Hmmm... The thing didn't open at all though....  It just gave me the errors and sat08:28
soulrider_Tired_: with time, youll discover new cool things everyday08:28
flacciddrumline_: konqueror08:28
soulrider_david_: hold on08:28
Tired_well today is day one, and i've already found some cool stuff08:28
soulrider_david_: didnt open? try again08:28
david_yup... tried again08:28
david_same errors.. no kcontrol08:28
Tired_this is all about learning right now...if I can learn enough to migrate my mission critical stuff, then I'll be set08:28
flacciddrumline_: goto smb:/08:28
soulrider_Tired_: every day for the first 2 months, i went crazy because i allways found cool new stuff, and after a year, it still happens08:29
ShaddoxUh, hello everyone.08:29
ShaddoxHow do I create a user in Konsole?08:29
soulrider_Shaddox: adduser08:29
flaccidShaddox: sudo adduser username08:29
dennisterubuntu-server is downloading at 140 kb/s :-)08:29
Tired_i expect to poop bricks when i get beryl to work08:29
ShaddoxWhat are the parameters for adding the users?08:29
soulrider_Tired_: LOL08:29
flaccidShaddox: man adduser08:29
Shaddoxoh here we go, nevermind, ^^] 08:29
dennister<------is going to find it hard to wait for upgrading08:29
soulrider_Shaddox: you can do "adduser -h" for the help08:29
Kantflaccid: I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16979/08:30
soulrider_david_: uhm, restart KDE and try again ?08:30
dennistergood night all08:30
soulrider_david_: youre doing kdesu right? not sudo08:30
Tired_gnight denni08:30
david_yeah, kdesu08:30
ShaddoxOkay, uh, question08:30
flaccidKant: thats the same as before. i said /dev/sda108:30
Kantoh08:30
soulrider_david_: damn08:30
david_the funny thing is that I think I got it working earlier......  But I've encountered a fair share of bugs since installation.08:30
ShaddoxI want to add a user with name XYZ that can be an admin and everything like the user Kubuntu's installer created, and set it's home directory to /home/XYZ08:31
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soulrider_david_: thats weird, i tried feisty and it was wonder08:31
soulrider_wonderful*08:31
ShaddoxWhat would that command be, i can't figure out this man page ^^08:31
flaccidShaddox: man usermod08:31
soulrider_david_: is this your first linux distro ?08:31
Kantflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16982/08:31
flaccidKant: try it on sda4 now08:32
david_Well, I started with the gnome version, but went to this one after I didn't like the interface... The gnome one worked perfectly.  This one has given me errors on 2 different installs... (I had to re-install it because stuff stopped working)08:32
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Kantit says it's clean also08:32
david_I did a disc integrity check, but it says it was fine.08:32
soulrider_david_: i see, dont get discouraged byt he bugs though, they get fixed quickly usually08:32
kubuntianthat F****ING kile just deleted my report08:32
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kubuntianthe tex file is empty08:32
david_Thanks for the encouragement08:32
soulrider_david_: *buntu is GREAT for learning08:32
kubuntianand i have only the resulting PDF08:32
soulrider_its easy, and the community is great08:32
kalorinok I got it figured out08:32
flaccidKant: then maybe its fine. does it boot?08:32
Tired_does Konversation support all the standard IRC commands?08:33
soulrider_you wont find that in many distros08:33
kubuntianis there a way to convert PDF back to latex?08:33
kalorinI had 8.36.5 drivers installed but the 8.35.5 kernel module installed08:33
david_will I need to re-install when the bugs get fixed?08:33
flaccidTired_: thats dependant on the IRC server you connect to08:33
kubuntiani don't want to rewrite everything...08:33
flaccidbut yes it does08:33
kalorinI knew there was soemthing that wasn't quite right08:33
ShaddoxUh, question. What group do I place system administrators in?08:33
Tired_like multi-servering and such?08:33
soulrider_david_: doing an update will fix it08:33
Kantflaccid: no, it doesn't08:33
flaccidShaddox: usually admin and operator08:33
flaccidiirc08:33
akrusWhiz2: courier-mta is it's own mta :)08:33
david_oh ok.. Yay!08:33
david_:)08:33
flaccidKant: doesn't what08:33
soulrider_david_: kubuntu really is a great distro08:33
flaccidKant: whats the error on boot08:33
Shaddoxflaccid: I really can't figure this command out...you know the user that the Kubuntu installer creates when installing?08:34
soulrider_david_: im not using it anymore, but do you know why im allways here/in the forums? community08:34
Kantlast time I ried a straight clean install of edgy I got a grub error 1508:34
Shaddoxflaccid: I want to make a new user with the exact same priveledges, username shaddox, home at /home/shaddox08:34
Shaddoxflaccid: Can you tell me the command I'd need to type in?08:34
flaccidok08:34
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david_That's pretty cool, soulrider08:34
kubuntianis there a way to convert PDF back to latex?08:34
drumline_flaccid: is that something I can setup a quickie icon on my desktop for and have it automagically log in?08:35
flaccidkubuntian: please don't repeat08:35
soulrider_david_: yeah, everyone will help you here and not call you stupid or a n00b08:35
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Kantgone to reinstall, will come back with victory or an error message08:35
david_a free operating system with a community to boot. :)08:35
flaccidShaddox: usermod -G admin Shaddox08:35
Shaddoxi want to make a NEW user08:35
flacciddrumline_: log in to what?08:36
Shaddoxi accidentally deleted this user's home folder and want to make a new one with the same privs, and delete this one ^^08:36
flaccidShaddox: we showed you that08:36
flaccidShaddox: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/08:36
flaccidi believe users and groups is in system settings as well for gui08:36
Shaddoxi cant start konqueror. :/08:36
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flaccidwhy08:37
ShaddoxI know08:37
ShaddoxBut my X server is screwed08:37
drumline_flaccid: my SMB server08:37
ShaddoxAll the applications i try to start say that it cant connect08:37
ShaddoxThis is why I wanted to make a new user in Konsole08:37
flaccid!mount08:37
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:37
flacciddrumline_: you can mount it and create a symlink on the desktop08:37
flaccidShaddox: we have showed you how to do all this. please read what we said08:37
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nbcbhelp why do i hit into too many open files in ktorrent?08:39
drumline_flaccid: oh...  setup a script to do it?08:39
flacciddrumline_: there is a few options08:39
Shaddoxuh, flaccid: i can't do it under sudo?08:40
what_ifnbcb: its probably coded into ktorrent, but you can check ulimit on the command line08:40
Shaddoxit says specify only one name08:40
flacciddepends how you wanna do it. you can put it in fstab and just mount /mnt/point or you can use smbmount08:40
drumline_flaccid: I'm very new to the GUI side of Linux...   :)   ...what kind of options?    I am familiar with smbmount and symlinks and scripts...   I just don't know the fancy GUI methods.08:40
flaccidShaddox: what command did you try08:40
Shaddoxflaccid: sudo adduser --group admin shaddox08:40
flacciddrumline_: there isn't any fancy gui methods08:40
drumline_flaccid: well, I like how KDE can automagically hold my login data in the configs... that's nice.08:41
flaccidShaddox: i usually add them after adduser user so that they still have their own group08:41
drumline_I somewhat miss drive letters.  :)08:41
nbcbwhat_if: i already set ulimit -n 999999 , but it still hit that error08:42
Shaddoxflaccid: so that's adduser shaddox, then usermod shaddox -parameters?08:42
flacciddrumline_: i don't see why you would miss drive letters08:42
nbcbi'm using ktorrent 2.1.308:42
flaccidShaddox: i msgd an example and a link to the page above08:42
Shaddoxokay08:42
Shaddoxim filling out the stuff08:42
drumline_flaccid: they are shortcuts...   it's easy to just click on T when I want to get to some business stuff.08:42
Shaddoxbut what's Room Number?08:42
what_ifnbcb: its probably coded into ktorrent then, you may try azureus, the ulimit variable has a gui where you can change it08:42
flaccidShaddox: [2007-04-22 16:35]  <flaccid> Shaddox: usermod -G admin Shaddox08:43
flaccidShaddox: those options are optional. just press enter08:43
Shaddoxi know i know08:43
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nbcbwhat_if: ok thx.. azuresus is also a bittorrent client?08:43
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flaccidi use azureus for bittorrent08:43
nbcb!azuresus08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about azuresus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
flaccid!info azureus08:43
ubotuazureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB08:43
Shaddoxokay, flaccid, thank you08:43
what_ifnbcb: yes, it may even be in the repositories...08:43
Shaddoxnext question flaccid08:43
flaccidnp08:43
Shaddoxhow do i disable automatic login08:44
drumline_flaccid: i like drive letters because I'm a kool-aid drinker :)08:44
Shaddoxin Konsole08:44
what_ifty ubutu :), lol08:44
flaccidautomatic login of what?08:44
Shaddoxwhen i boot, my KDE auto logins as this user08:44
flacciddrumline_: whatever that means08:44
Shaddoxbut im switching users, so i need to turn off automatic login08:44
flaccid!find autologin08:44
ubotuFile autologin found in casper, gdm08:44
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flaccidthat i don't know sorry Shaddox08:44
Shaddox>.< damn, okay08:44
flaccidim not sure if thats Kubuntu or KDE related08:44
flaccidsomeone here should know or try #kde08:45
drumline_flaccid: KDE and Ubuntu have come a long way...  :)  this is cool.08:45
flaccidShaddox: the command groups is good to see what groups you are in08:45
flacciddrumline_: yeah i actually think that feisty is more stable than dapper which suprised me08:46
flaccidxorg7 is fast08:46
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fictiondoes anyone know where the file that has all the startup scripts is located?08:46
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Bennedettoallo allo everyone08:46
what_iffiction: which startup scrips ? main system ?08:46
flaccidfiction: startup scripts are located in /etc/init.d ?08:46
flaccidor you want rc config?08:47
Bennedettoi've got a quick question about kubuntu feisty. I know that you can enable compiz in the settings manager in ubuntu, but is it possible to do the same in kubuntu? if so, how might I go about doing this...08:47
fictionwhat_if: not sure. what i did was, i unchecked some startup scripts and now ubuntu (im usinjg ubuntu, but the people on the channel don't know the solution) won't start08:47
fictionflaccid: thanks08:47
flaccidfiction: whats the specific problem08:47
what_iffiction: do you remember what you turned off ?08:47
fictionif i remember correctly: both actions schedulers, bluetooth device management, cpu frequency manager, computer activity logger08:48
what_ifBennedetto: yes beryl+kubuntu works, just install beryl-manager and run it08:48
flaccidfiction: what about them?08:48
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flaccid!info rcconf08:49
uboturcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB08:49
drumline_flaccid: to your knowledge, has anyone ever been arrested or fined for using the restricted codecs for their own use?08:49
Bennedettowhat_if: i tried beryl, not working for me, but i do know that compiz works08:49
fictionflaccid: they have checkboxes next to them. i unchecked the boxes.08:49
flaccidrcconf would be handy if you don't want to use the gui for service management08:49
Bennedettowhat_if: so i need to know how to enable compiz, or if i need to install it08:49
what_ifBennedetto: do you have an nvidia board ?08:49
flacciddrumline_: no idea08:49
Bennedettowhat_if: no, its an intel i81008:49
flaccidfiction: recheck them?08:49
what_ifBennedetto: oh, sry never tried compiz08:49
fictionflaccid: ubuntu won't start. im on live cd08:49
flaccidwhy why why08:49
flaccidthis won't work or this won't start tells us nothing08:50
what_ifflaccid: chroot your old system and re-enable the services :)08:50
fictionit freezes on this line "/etc/rc.local/08:50
flaccidwhat_if: just use rcconf its pretty handy08:50
fictionwhat_if: i don't know how08:50
what_ifflaccid: lol, wrong nick :P08:51
flaccidfiction: pastebin /etc/rc.local please08:51
ionus!modem08:51
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto08:51
fictionflaccid: exit 008:51
flaccidfiction: ok nothing is in there. need to check logs like /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog to see what is not happening. also see if X is being started and what the problem is there in /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:52
fictionflaccid: http://paste2.org/p/266108:52
what_ifwhen in doubt, reinstall :)08:53
fictionhell no08:53
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ionus!tvtuner08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
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ionus!tv08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
ionushow i can to install program for my tv tuner card08:57
ionus?08:57
flaccid!mythtv08:58
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV08:58
flaccid!tvtime08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
flaccid!info tvtime08:58
ubotutvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB08:58
flaccidthere is also a HCL somewhere08:58
ionusi can instal this from adept instaler08:59
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flaccidyou can install from adept yes08:59
ionusok08:59
ionusthx08:59
ionusbut driver for tv tuner?08:59
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Bennedettoalright, does anyone know how to enable compiz (not beryl) in kubuntu?09:00
akrusBennedetto: install compiz, not beryl09:01
akrus!info compiz-kde09:01
ubotucompiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 (feisty), package size 77 kB, installed size 208 kB09:01
flaccidlike i said there is a HCL somewhere, don't know where09:01
Bennedettoakrus: yes, but is it installed by default?09:01
flaccidits optional as it says in universe09:01
Bennedettook09:01
aegis042404Hi, I'm new to irc....just had a few questions about wheather anyone has had any trouble upgrading to fiesty ?09:01
flaccidaegis042404: there is always trouble in upgrading09:02
akrusaegis042404: no troubles ever :o09:02
akrusxD09:02
madmikei'v had to reinstall it 5 times09:02
madmikebut then again I keep breaking it hehe09:02
aegis042404or is a clen install recemended ?09:02
akrusflaccid: I've upgraded my friend's notebook without any problems :)09:02
flaccidaegis042404: i'd do an upgrade then if unsuccessful, reinstall09:02
aegis042404the upgrade wizard popped up...and I just say hell with it... and tried....but it didn't complete09:03
madmikeclean install is always best i thinks09:03
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akrusjust replace sources.list and do the upgrade :dance:09:03
flaccidakrus: really. so does that mean it should work for every user in the world on their different hardware and different installed packages?09:03
aegis042404yeah...I usually think so....but I've got an awful lot of great stuff installed....09:03
akrusflaccid: it means we need base PC which will surely upgrade Kubuntu :D09:03
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akrusso everyone will have the same PC everywhere09:04
aegis042404finally got my box the way I want it...except for a few things.....qdvdauthor for one...09:04
akrus!vote AMD09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vote amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
flaccidakrus: thats bogus09:04
flaccidah ffs09:04
flaccidthats so ignorant09:04
akrusubotu: I just was voting09:04
flaccidnot to mention unrealistic09:04
akrus:)09:04
akrusit's like communism :D09:04
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flaccidits stupid is what it is09:05
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kaizokuHow do I increase the screen resolution.09:05
flaccidit pretty much pisses on the open community as well09:05
akruskaizoku: system settings or/and xorg.conf09:05
kaizokuI set the new options in xorg.conf, but the resolution hasn't increased.09:05
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akruskaizoku: open your systemsettings and try changing it there09:05
kaizokuakrus: I did.09:05
akrusif you're using nvidia display adapter open nvidia-settings & change it there09:06
shaddoxHi everyone. Uh, I am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers. How do I fix this?09:06
kaizokuThe highest options are the ones from before.09:06
kaizokuakrus: It's an ATI.09:06
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akruskaizoku: ATI Catalyst Control Center?09:06
kaizokuakrus: This is the live CD btw.09:06
kalorinflaccid: module assistant was my issue09:06
kalorinand it's fixed now09:06
drumline_Does the restricted codecs contain support for WMA files?09:06
flaccidok09:06
shaddoxUh, I am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers, and there's no sound. How do I fix this?09:07
akruskaizoku: live?!09:07
kaizokuakrus: Yes09:07
flacciddrumline_: yeah09:07
akrusdrumline_: mplayer09:07
flaccid!wma09:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:07
kalorinit had the 8.35.5 kernel module in there, but was running the 8.36.5 drivers09:07
drumline_cool...09:07
drumline_mplayer is what I need?   Can't use amarok?09:07
akrusdrumline_: mplayer implements the support for WMA09:07
akrusdrumline_: while converting/playing/whatever...09:07
shaddoxI am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers, and there's no sound. How do I fix this?09:08
drumline_neat...  that sounds cool.09:08
JxjlCan somebody help me with one problem? I have just installed kubuntu 7,04 and I have some problems with my soundcard. I have two soundcards in my PC. First is integrated VIA 8237, wich is disabled in BIOS. The second is Soundblaster live. Somtimes it works well, but sometimes kubuntu initializes the disabled integrated VIA instead Sound Blaster.09:08
drumline_akrus: how about you.  Do you know of anyone that has been thrown in the slammer or fined for using the restricted codecs for their own personal use?09:08
flacciddrumline_: which code are you referring to09:09
akrusdrumline_: i'm in Russia, it's allowed there :)09:09
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what_ifJxjl: you can put a line in alcs-conf to tell linux what card to use as "Default" hold on and I'll get the info09:09
akrusdigital media is allowed, even if it has no license09:09
shaddoxuh, i need help fixing my sound09:09
akrusalcs=alsa09:09
akruso_O09:09
akrusisn't it?09:09
drumline_flaccid: that DeCSS code...   Does Mplayer use anything like that?   I'm just trying to find out if it's legal...09:10
wolferinewhy is it that I can view lns on my FTP but not dirs?09:10
what_ifJxjl: in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base put the line: options snd-emu10k1 index=009:11
flacciddrumline_: no idea. but google is a better place to look. this is kubuntu support chan09:11
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what_ifJxjl: where snd-emu10k1 is _your_ cards driver09:11
aegis042404haha...russia might be the only place to put you in prison for copyright violation...or software piracy09:11
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jussi01hi everyone, whats kubuntu's update manager called? is it update manager as in ubuntu? or something else?09:11
OxoTnicKhi. i have a problem. can somebody help?09:12
flaccid!adept > jussi0109:12
aegis042404what is the problem... ?09:12
drumline_flaccid: sure..09:12
flaccid!ask09:12
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:12
OxoTnicKi have no free space left on root but there should be at least 14 gb09:12
aegis042404hmmm09:12
jussi01flaccid: I know adept is like synaptic, but i mean updates - the autmotic ones...09:13
flaccidOxoTnicK: pastebin output of df -h09:13
aegis042404clear out /tmp and /var ....09:13
OxoTnicKand i'm in recovery mode right now09:13
aegis042404maybe....09:13
flaccidjussi01: adept_notifier is enabled by default09:13
flaccidaegis042404: no don't clean out /var!!09:13
jussi01flaccid: ahh, thanks09:13
aegis042404no ?09:13
aegis042404why not ?09:13
flaccidvar is not tmp09:13
what_ifaegis042404: only /var/tmp :)09:13
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flaccidmail and http can be stored there as well as configuration09:14
flaccidsee man heir09:14
OxoTnicKflaccid, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16984/09:14
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aegis042404better question might be figuring out how your / is 14 gigs short09:14
flaccidOxoTnicK: / is full so need to find what filled it..09:14
aegis042404is /home on a seperate partition ?09:14
OxoTnicKhome not separate.09:15
flaccidno its not09:15
OxoTnicKsec.  i'm difficult whis english. let me explane better09:15
aegis042404are there any files...large files....on /home/whatever you could delete ?09:15
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JakubS_ /var/cache/apt/archives maybe?09:15
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aegis042404how about apt-get clean ?09:16
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aegis042404will that clear some space ?09:16
OxoTnicKwhen i came up in the morning ktorrent told me that there is no free space. i erased 14 gb. and started ktorrent again. 5 mins later it told me that there is no space again. i went to trash, ttied to find the files i deleted and did't find them, but there is no free 14gb also09:18
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Jxjlwhat_if: I aded this line to alsa-base. And I see there theese lines: install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; } install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; } Can I delete the second one with disabled card?09:18
fdovingOxoTnicK: you can try to run the command 'sync' in konsole.09:19
OxoTnicKi'm not looking how to free space but where the space i freed go09:19
the_hammeranyone here running 7.04 feisty fawn that can show me their sources.list?09:19
the_hammeror send to me?09:19
what_ifJxjl: I'd try commenting it out first.... :)09:19
flaccid!source-o-matic > the_hammer09:19
what_ifOxoTnicK: df09:19
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JakubS_OxoTnicK: if file you deleted was still held open by some app then it won't be really deleted (however you won't be able to see this file) until it is closed09:20
fdovingOxoTnicK: if you deleted 14GiB, there is no chance you could have downloaded that much in 5 minutes.09:20
Jxjlwhat_if: I`ll do that then reboot my PC and tell the result.09:20
aegis042404think maybe it wasn't really deleted09:20
JakubS_this bit me once when i tried to gain some free space by removing mysql log file while mysql was running09:20
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what_ifJxjl:  k :)09:21
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what_ifthe_hammer: http://pastebin.ca/45239509:21
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OxoTnicKJakubS_, it was large video files and i'm prety sure that no prog used them at that moment09:21
aegis042404what is the name of the program that shows disk space used graphicly09:21
what_ifthe_hammer: sources.list :)09:21
makuseruis there any program that will save flash objects?09:21
aegis042404ktorrent might have been using them09:21
os2macOk, trying to do a bit for the community. I have already upgraded to Fiesty and I am trying to seed the torrent but I only have the default tracker from Canonical.... is anyone aware of any other trackers I can seed?09:21
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OxoTnicKfdoving, i know that. i think that they have not deleted properly09:22
what_ifaegis042404: baobab09:22
makuseruis there any program that will save flash objects in a web page?09:22
fdovingOxoTnicK: have a look at what jakubs_ told you 1 minute ago.09:22
aegis042404I don't think I got mine from canonical...09:22
the_hammerty09:22
what_ifthe_hammer: yw09:22
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puppetmasterHi Everyone09:23
puppetmasterI have a question about wget09:23
apushow do I change what my mouse buttons do for certain programs with no dedicated preferences, like firefox the 2 thumb keys DON"T go forward and back09:24
puppetmasterCan I resume download with wget tool?09:24
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xushihi all09:24
xushijust wanted to congratulate on the new version09:24
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puppetmasterCan I resume download with wget tool?09:24
OxoTnicKsync did't help09:24
puppetmasteranyone please09:25
puppetmasterCan I resume download with wget tool?09:25
fdovingpuppetmaster: yes. the -c switch.09:25
puppetmasteri'll try09:25
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puppetmasterthank you09:25
unix_infidelcan ncftp do scp/sftp?09:25
OxoTnicKno one knows?09:26
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what_ifarg09:26
what_ifOxoTnicK: whats the ques ?09:26
puppetmasterit worked09:27
puppetmasterThan you very much09:27
puppetmasteryou are the best09:27
OxoTnicKwhat_if, what? didn't understand the last word09:27
fdovingunix_infidel: no, ncftp does not support any encryption.09:27
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unix_infidelfdoving: thanks.09:27
fdovingunix_infidel: more info in their faq. http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/doc/faq.html09:27
unix_infidelfdoving: now of a cli client that does?09:28
unix_infidelknow*09:28
sonoftheclayrhow do i change the font in console?09:28
sonoftheclayrlike ctrl + alt + F*09:28
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fdovingunix_infidel: lftp09:29
mrdlouisdwhat is a good dvd player?09:29
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fdovingsonoftheclayr: in /etc/default/console-setup09:30
drumline_I'm getting an issue where adept is whining about the packaging system database is already being used, but I've already restarted, so it can't possibly be used...   there must be a lockfile I need to remove...  can somebody tell me where it is?09:30
unix_infideli wonder if mc can do ftp09:30
fdoving!adeptfix | drumline_09:30
ubotudrumline_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:30
the_hammervlc is a nice player for dvds09:30
sonoftheclayrfdoving: ty09:31
aegis042404check for adept notifier too09:31
aegis042404if it's running it might lock you out09:31
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fdovingaegis042404: that's what that command does, it checks what application is locking /var/lib/dpkg/lock - then ask if you want to kill it or not. :)09:32
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aegis042404ahhh09:32
mrdlouisdthanks hammer totally spaced vlc was mutli platform09:32
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drumline_fdoving: nice... that appears to be solving it.  I hope that becomes an automated process in the future.09:32
insmod7.04 just killed my laptop lol09:32
boblenyDie laptop die!09:33
Tired_is there a web-based, searchable list of package name in kubuntu?09:33
fdovingdrumline_: we're hoping adept stops crashing in the future too :)09:33
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fdovingTired_: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com09:33
Tired_yay!09:33
drumline_fdoving: i guess synaptic is the better of the two09:33
fdovingdrumline_: it's more mature, yes. adept is not so old software-wise. but it's KDE-ish :)09:34
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drumline_yeah.  :)09:34
sonoftheclayrdoes anyone here program php-qt?09:35
ionus!tvtime09:35
drumline_man.. those restricted things don't install cleanly...09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
Ash-Fox!beryl09:35
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:35
Ash-Fox!xgl09:35
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:35
Tired_after my experience tonight with Adept, I'd prefer a graphical border around an aptget window09:35
Jxjlwhat_if: VIA 8237 active again => no sound can you help me, in wich section of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base should I add the option line?09:35
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fdovingTired_: if you don't like adept and can cope with console things, i'd recommend aptitude :)09:36
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Tired_is aptitude in the default install?09:36
Tired_i'm used to emerge09:36
Tired_and double-clicking .exe's, of course09:36
sonoftheclayrTired_: yes, it's in there by default09:36
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insmodhas the mouse option/dir changed -- because i have no mouse09:37
reldruhdoes anybody know of an applet for kontact or some way to keep it always running, but in the background. Right now it only checks my mail when I have it open and I'd rather not keep it running all the time.09:37
what_ifJxjl: I put mine as the very last line09:37
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Jxjlwhat_if: it is the first line09:38
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Tired_is there an aptitude help file in there?09:38
Tired_like "aptitude --help"?09:38
ultrafuzzanybody active tonight?09:39
fdovingTired_: just start it, 'aptitude'09:39
Jxjlwhat_if: I`ll make it last09:39
insmodTired_: apt-get is best -- synaptic is best gui one09:39
Tired_Ack!  I can't use that!  It has no super Cow powers!09:39
fdovingTired_: then go to help -> usermanual.09:39
what_ifJxjl: don't know if that makes a difference, but thats what the howto I used said to do09:40
ultrafuzzi just updated and now i cannot access my USB drive, the drive has NTSF filesystem...09:40
jussi01can someone tell me how to stop windows bunching up in the notification area?09:40
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jussi01i mean like grouping all the firefox together...09:40
blackflag!opengl09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
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fdovingjussi01: right-click on the panel -> configure panel -> taskbar (or similar) -> "Group when..." - dropdown. (translated on the fly, might not be entirely correct)09:42
jussi01fdoving: thanks, ill give it a go09:43
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jussi01fdoving: yeah, thanks sorte09:43
jussi01d09:43
makuseruis there any program that will download(extract) a flash object form a website?09:44
fdovingmakuseru: i'd start searching the firefox extensions.09:44
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XVampireXhttp://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=katapultbugnz7.png09:44
XVampireXCan anyone help me with this?09:45
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makuserufdoving: i only found somthing that gets youtube video, that not what i need tho09:45
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fdovingmakuseru: something like this: http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/11/save-flash-from-firefox-and-ie.html ?09:46
aegis042404oh yeah09:46
aegis042404a firefox plug in will do it09:46
KubuntuHow can I make torrentz faster?09:46
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aegis042404it's called unplug09:47
KubuntuI downloads at 1-10kbs while kubuntu downloads at 370kbs?09:47
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makuseruKububtu: its probably just that torrent09:48
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ultrafuzzi just updated and now i cannot access my USB drive, the drive has NTSF filesystem...09:49
what_ifKubuntu: your router can make a lot of difference also... if doing hundreds of connections09:49
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makuseruXVampireX: nice background09:50
XVampireXmakuseru: Yeah but I still need helping with it...09:50
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makuseruXVampireX: whats your problem? the katapult thing is fuzzy? its always good to SAY what your problem is09:51
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XVampireXmakuseru: You never used katapult?09:51
XVampireXThe pic is REALLY self explanitory... really...09:51
premier_hello, can some one recomend an audio editor for linux?  I tried audactiy, but it was crashy and didn't have the features I wanted.  I also tried ardour, and I couldn't get it to start09:52
Tired_is there a fairly clear troubleshooting guide online for Beryl?09:52
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makuseruXVampireX: no, i dont09:52
premier_Tired_: I wish09:52
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Tired_i wish too  :/09:53
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Tired_i know that it crashes, but that's about it09:53
premier_Tired_: keep pecking at google, eventually you'll find something09:53
makuseruXVampireX: and no, its not self explanitory09:53
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XVampireXmakuseru: So you wouldn't know... but yeah, the katapult thing looks fuzzy and it at LEAST had to use fake transparency.09:53
dekI am running the Distribution Upgrade and it has just crashed, it had already downloaded everything. Can i recover it?09:53
XVampireXYes it is09:53
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premier_Tired_: can you say anything else?  Anything at all?  Theres a way to get error messages... /var/log/something09:54
premier_try starting beryl-manager in a terminal, and tell me the last line of output after it crashes09:55
Tired_see, that's the kind of troubleshooting guide i need.  all i was going on was plain white screen09:55
premier_Tired_:09:55
premier_Oh, yeah, the white screen of death09:55
premier_You can actually rotate the cube while that happens, kinda cool09:55
premier_apparently it because beryl can't render textures09:56
tmbgFailed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs-dev_7.2-0ubuntu11_all.deb Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10). - connect (111 Connection refused) <--- I keep getting this when trying to do a distribution upgrade.09:56
premier_try beryl --use-copy... I think thats the line09:56
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fdovingtmbg: try another mirror.09:56
premier_Tired_: you know you can use ctrl-alt-backspace to kill beryl without restarting you computer, right?  Just making sure you're not restarting every time09:57
premier_I've been there09:57
XVampireXSo can anyone with more brains than muscles solve this?: http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=katapultbugnz7.png09:57
Tired_yes, i know.  beryl-manager has no output at all in a console09:58
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tmbgfdoving, at the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, how do I do that?09:58
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sonoftheclayris anyone in here using kde4?09:59
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fdovingtmbg: open /etc/apt/sources.list with an text editor, from kde kmenu -> run command 'kdesu -- kate /etc/apt/sources.list' then change ca.archive.ubuntu.com to for example us.archive.ubuntu.com - then fetch list of updates again.10:00
ubuntu_I get trown out of my network, and then I can't see it. What should I do??10:00
tmbgis canada the default archive? I can't imagine I would pick canada on purpose.10:00
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hyper_chhow can I find out if my install is still beta or whether it's stable?10:01
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fdovinghyper_ch: are there any updates left to install?10:02
premier_sonoftheclayr: no, but I'm looking forward to the final release... what are you doing with it?10:03
hyper_chfdoving: I haven't had any updates since about april 1710:03
hyper_chfdoving: and I just tend to think there should be something :)10:03
premier_I think I found a broken package, should I report it?10:03
Tired_well, beryl -use-copy did stuff, but it ran so sluggishly that it made everything unusable10:03
XVampireXcowsay moo10:03
Tired_what was it using a copy of10:04
codonilhyper_ch: do an apt-get update, and if there are no more packages, I think you have the latest stuff10:04
codonilstable release, that is10:04
Hobbseepremier_: which package is it?10:05
fdovingpremier_: reporting it would help getting it fixed, bugs.ubuntu.com10:05
Hobbseepremier_: and it's already released10:05
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hyper_chcodonil: so there weren't any updates from Beta to Stable... I just altered my sources to not use the swiss mirror but archive.ubuntu.com10:05
premier_Hobbsee, I mean the release in fall10:05
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Hobbseepremier_: ah.  wouldnt bother filing broken deps for gutsy yet - do that after the merges10:07
codonilhyper_ch: well, I can't confirm that, I'm still on Edgy :)10:07
bbm4nhas anyone installed feisty?10:07
hyper_chcodonil: :) you are so outdated *g* nope, looks like there weren't any updates from Beta to Stable10:07
ubuntu_79% on installing feisty!10:07
ubuntu_80%10:07
Tired_thanks for all the help...my bed is calling me10:07
ubuntu_Allready?10:07
tmbgI'm at like .1% on installing feisty10:08
bbm4n11:08 am here10:08
Tired_dude, it's 1am here, i've been installing and setting up now for 12 hours10:08
bbm4noh10:08
Tired_i need a fresh start if i'm going to wrap my brain around this beryl stuff10:08
Tired_hmm, wrapping brain around Beryl...new theme?  ;P10:09
premier_fdoving: Hobbsee: the package is ardour, a sound editor.  It requires jack to run it, but it does not appear to install it.  Ardour will not run after being installed from apt-get10:09
bbm4ndk about beryl in my system config i had some problems..10:09
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bbm4nand i did a fresh install10:10
premier_Is it safe to install kde4 just to look at it?  I won't screw up my kde3 install, will it?10:10
Hobbseepremier_: ahh.  check for a bug alraedy10:10
AattilaHi, I installed feisty and since I have only 640x480 screen resolution with vesa driver. I have via vn800 video card and tried via and unichrome driver but do not work. What should I do?10:10
Hobbseepremier_: shouldnt do.  it crashes a lot though, as it's only the last snapshot from a couple of months ago10:11
premier_Hobbsee: is there anything worth seeing yet?  Anything at all?10:11
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nbcbhow to check if java is installed10:12
Hobbseepremier_: some.10:12
premier_Hobbsee: has any work been done on plasma yet?10:12
nbcbJava Runtime Version10:12
nbcb10:12
nbcb1.6.010:12
premier_Hobbsee: can I just apt-get kde4?10:12
nbcbYou do NOT have the latest version of Java software.10:12
Hobbseepremier_: only after that snapshot was done.  check dot.kde.org for progress10:12
Hobbseepremier_: something like that, yes10:12
premier_Hobbsee: just to confirm, it won't overwrite any data, or anything?10:13
nbcbsorry10:13
Hobbseepremier_: no - it writes to ~/.kde4 etc10:13
nbcbwhy when i run azureus i get exec: 40: java: not found10:13
Hobbsee!java | nbcb10:13
ubotunbcb: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:14
nbcbbut i do have java10:14
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premier_Hobbsee: whats the meta package, do you know?10:15
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premier_Hobbsee: what's been done so far?10:17
Hobbseepremier_: not offhand.  apt-cache search will10:17
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premier_yeah, theres a lot10:17
premier_kde4base - core applications for KDE 4 testing  <- is that it?10:17
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Jxjlwhat_if: thank you very much 10 reboots and no problems10:22
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premier_Hobbsee: what is there to see so far in kde4?10:22
what_ifJxjl: np, I had a similar problem :)10:22
os2macis anyone else have a problem with the suspend functions in acpi?10:23
Hobbseepremier_: see the stuff on dot.kde.org10:23
Hobbseethere's other kde4* packages10:23
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montoyaHi, in version 7.04 is present (at end of installation) the section "enable 3d desktop effects" ???10:24
premier_os2mac: I have a lot of trouble with that.  What graphics card are you using?  What kind of compy is it?10:24
premier_montoya: do you know what their talking about?10:24
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os2macDell Inspiron 8600 with a Gforce2 fx5200 card.10:25
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nbcbhey anyone knows what is that listening tcp incoming port for azureus?10:25
montoyammmmm10:25
montoyawith ubuntu (not kubuntu)10:25
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montoyathere is a section "enable 3d desktop effects???"10:26
os2macPremier_ looking at the bug reporting for it now....10:26
montoyanow, in kubuntu?10:26
montoyais there?10:26
geremia:-)10:26
premier_montoya: whats you're question?10:26
premier_montoya: Is there a langauge you prefer besides english?  There may be support in your langauge.10:27
montoyano problem... I'm stupid with english10:28
montoyaI don't speak english10:29
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Hobbseemontoya: the "enable 3d effects is only in ubuntu, not in kubuntu.  however, you can install compiz, or beryl-kde if you wish10:30
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montoyathanks sarah10:31
Hobbsee:)10:31
os2macPremier_: I see a bunch of bugs for similar problems. basically Laptop suspends throws a bunch of USB bus errors and then fails to come out of suspend... I have to reboot to fix it.10:32
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premier_os2mac, yeah, that sound about right.  Theres some conflct with usb and acpi and graphics cards and wireless adapters... I can't figure it out.  There should never be a situation where a computer can't come out of suspend10:33
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os2macpremier_: where are the power management controls in settings?10:34
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premier_os2mac are you using guidance or kpowersave?10:43
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os2macpremier_ i didn't change anything with the fiesty install so what ever gets used by default.10:43
llutzhow can i get rid of the standby/hibernate-buttons in kde-logoff screen?10:43
premier_llutz: does it matter?10:44
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llutzpremier_: yep10:44
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premier_wri?10:44
os2macpremier_ I had to open kcontrol and found them there....10:44
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premier_os2mac, yeah, I don't understand why system settings doesn't have some things kcontrol has... whats the point?10:45
os2macnot sure why either.... I was just looking at the laptop battery control in Kcontrol. I thought it had a profile whereas you could tell acpi what kind of computer you had and it would configure acpi for you to be compatible.10:46
os2macbut it doesn't10:46
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dettoaltrimentidoes anyone here use dcgui?10:49
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icecruncherhow can I decrease the icon size in the task bar?10:50
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premier_icecruncher: you have to change the size of the entire task bar, or use the quick launcher applet10:51
premier_kinda annoying, I know10:52
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icecruncherpremier_: quick launcher applet, you mean what?10:53
premier_icecruncher: are you new to linux?10:53
icecruncherpremier_: kubuntu10:53
premier_kde?10:53
icecrunchernot really10:54
premier_okay, its in the "add applet" window10:54
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david_Hello Night-time linux-ers10:54
premier_david_: its not nighttime everywhere10:55
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icecruncherpremier_: thanks a lot10:55
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ubuntui need help10:55
david_Your're right-- hehe...10:55
se7enIt's Sunday, April 22, 2007, at 3:55 PM in Asia/Bangkok10:55
premier_(as it happens, it 2 am in california, but somewhere its not nighttime)10:55
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premier_se7en: its like the future10:56
mrcreativityim trying to install kubuntu10:56
se7en:)10:56
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premier_mrcreativity: thats half the battle10:56
mrcreativitybut when i select start or install, the screen gets messed up. i need to start it in safe video mode to reach the live desktop10:56
premier_mrcreativity: what kind of video card are you using?10:56
mrcreativitynvidia gefore 6600gt10:56
premier_hmmm... I don't know enough to help you10:57
mrcreativityso anyone?10:57
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david_Nvidia is a pain in the ass.  I've been trying to get a driver working for hours10:57
icecruncherpremier_: what about the actual applications? running in the system tray?10:58
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mrcreativityit works fine on my laptop with a 6800 \10:58
premier_david_: really?  I have ati... I willing to bet its worse10:58
mrcreativity\does anyone here know enough u healp me10:58
david_lol premier10:58
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premier_prove ati is not worse! prove it!10:58
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mrcreativityok...at least tell me this, how do i setup the driver after i install kubuntu?10:58
premier_icecruncher: no idea10:58
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david_heh... given the huge difficulties it caused the ubuntu team-- Yeah ATI is worse I bet hehe10:59
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premier_mrcreativity: there may be tutorials online10:59
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premier_david_: how bad is nVidia?  I'm building my own compy this summer, so I want to know how I can avoid capatability issues?11:00
mrcreativitywhats this wallet thing thtat keep poppoing up11:00
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david_Nvidia is fine. :)  I'm just annoyed because I'm new to Linux and thing things should work out of the box. :)  I'm no expert, sorry.11:01
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david_right now I'm actually struggling to figure out how to run my graphics installer as "root"11:02
premier_mrcreativity: the kde wallet manages passwords and protected information.  You can set it up so you have a single system wide password rather than many11:03
os2mac!kwallet11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
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mrcreativitybut does it have to ask me the password everytime i boot up11:03
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os2macmrcreativity: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html11:04
icecruncherpremier_: best solution, set taskbar to large. lol11:04
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premier_mrcreativity: what program is accesing the wallet?11:06
premier_it should say11:06
david_quick question:  I'm typing sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run ... and then it errors and says I need to be in root11:06
david_should I do sudo instead?11:06
david_I'm new sorry.11:06
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mrcreativitydavid_: did u try sudo?11:07
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david_well sudo says command not found right now... I'll try again hoping I mistyped...11:08
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icecruncheranybody know how to decrease the size of desktop icons?11:10
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pharsalusI am having problems with powering off my desktop pc. I am using Kubuntu 7.04 and it shuts down Kubuntu then hangs, no power off. Has anyone experianced similar issues and can help resolve?11:11
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premier_hey, anyone who's used kde4... I'm running it right now... whats there to see?11:12
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pharsalusI think the all knowing ones are still in bed. :)11:14
david_heh11:15
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david_Does anybody here know how to enter "root" in Konsole?11:15
flaccid!root11:15
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:15
david_really?11:15
david_one sec11:15
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premier_david: you can go to one of the menus and the should have thing that says, "open root session11:16
premier_"11:16
david_ok...I'll check that too11:16
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david_oMG that worked11:17
david_yesss!11:17
steffenHi, i can't find how to enable Compiz in Kubuntu. Anyone an idea?11:17
flaccid!compiz11:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:18
pharsalusKubuntu 7.04 user, system not powering off on shutdown. Anybody can assist/discuss?11:18
bbm4nhave the same problem11:18
bbm4nit happens at 10%11:19
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bbm4nand it mostly happens when i close the laptop lid after i have pressed shutdown11:19
steffenflaccid: What you want to tell me with this?11:19
flaccidsteffen: i do not understand11:20
bbm4n@ pharsalus these i said before..11:21
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jermainhi all11:22
jermaini have a problem:11:22
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jermainmy comp knows my ext. hd is there11:22
flaccidwe all have problems11:22
jermain:)11:22
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jermainmine > yours11:22
jermain:p11:22
steffenflaccid: everytime soneone asks a question like help me with blahblah. someone types !blahblah as if all people with questions are dumb. Last time i tried to ask in IRC11:23
david_arrgh.... Okay I got a Konsole program to run and give me an error as my user, but in root, it says access denied.  How do I install something from Konsole?11:23
RandomLuserDon't get me started about problems.11:23
RandomLuserlol11:23
david_heh11:23
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flaccidsteffen: i still dont understand. read the compiz how to.11:23
jermaindavind: sudo rm <filename>11:24
david_ok... one second... I'll try sudo rm jermain11:24
Hobbseesteffen: it's not that - it's that it's been asked before, and people have put all the documentation for it in one place11:24
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flaccid!apt-get > david_11:24
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icecruncherugh, just had a horror experience, kwin crahed and i had a wierd desktop menu. nasty11:25
Zeddyanyone seen an error  like this before (google isnt helping me :( )11:25
Zeddydpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:11:25
Zeddy EOF after field name `'11:25
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premier_I know that this is a loaded question, but how much does stuff "just work" in debian compared to ubuntu11:27
david_lol... I was wondering that11:27
flaccidthats a stupid question11:27
premier_flaccid: thanks11:27
flaccidand one that can't really be answered11:27
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pharsalusIt works if you are prepared to make it work... It's a challenge, a test of your abilities. :)11:28
premier_well, I'm starting to get tired of the frustrations of things not just working in linux, and I'm wondering if a different distro would help11:28
what_ifpremier_: what does not work ?11:29
flaccidi think you need more experience, premier_11:29
RandomLuserIMHO, (k|x)ubuntu is more polished from an end user perspective, debian still remains a high quality distribution, but it also remains geared for more technical users11:29
premier_what_if: different things at different times... right know open office won't start because of a driver conflict with my fglrx ati drivers11:29
flaccidubuntu uses debian packages11:29
RandomLuserPropriatary software and drivers are always going to be a source of problems.11:30
flaccidall distros have bugs and/or issues. this is a fact11:30
premier_RandomLuser: well, theres some other stuff too, let me think of something11:30
what_ifpremier_: I've heard horror stories about fglrx...11:30
flaccidi've used many linux distros and operating systems. problems on all. never a smooth run11:31
premier_what_if: it deserves horror storys11:31
flaccidsometimes the problem is not the driver. the problem is the user11:31
premier_I can't use the terminal windows, I can't suspend or hibernate11:31
RandomLuserIf at all possible, you want to be using the xorg drivers and not the propriatary ones.11:31
what_ifpremier_: sounds like you need to upgrade / reinstall :)11:32
flaccidpremier_: you might need to config acpi or apm11:32
premier_flaccid: in order to fix it, I was told to move over a particular OpenGL driver, but it didn't work11:32
premier_flaccid: how do I config acpi?11:32
premier_what_if: I upgraded to feisty last week11:33
vbgunzI've upgraded to Feisty and KNetworkManager just sits in the tray not looking for anything... I have no idea what to do with it... how do I get it to work with my wireless card/.11:33
flaccidpremier_: lots of things don't work. you need to persist.11:33
flaccid!acpi11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
flaccid!find acpi11:33
ubotuFound: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, acpidump, acpitool (and 4 others)11:33
flaccid!info acpid11:33
ubotuacpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)11:33
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flaccidacpi setup will be in the forums, wiki or google somewhere11:33
flaccidi think you just install then you can config it in kcontrol or system settings11:34
david_Okay... another easy question for an expert.... How do you access user files from the root shell?11:34
vbgunzdavid_: just do it11:34
flacciddavid_: cd /home/user11:34
david_thanks11:34
flaccid!bash11:35
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:35
flaccidsome basics^^11:35
vbgunz!knetworkmanager > vbgunz11:35
david_good link11:35
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premier_btw, do any of you have opinions on amd vs intel?  I want to go for a amd64 bit for my new compy, but my freinds are trying to steer me to a "faster" intel.  I don't think they know much about amd11:35
flaccideither is fine11:35
vbgunzpremier_: why 64?11:35
premier_because its awesome11:36
flaccidamd64 won't have as much support11:36
premier_as intel64 or as 32 bit11:36
vbgunzjust curious11:36
flaccidas 3211:36
premier_vbgunz: I don't know, something about the future11:36
JohnFluxpremier_: how much money do you want to spend?11:37
JohnFluxpremier_: it's kinda hard to call at the moment11:37
flaccidby the time 64bit as equal support, you;ll probably want to buy a new 64bih processor11:37
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JohnFluxpremier_: at this very second, amd is the best buy for a certain amount of money11:37
premier_flaccid: I hear I can run a 32 bit OS in emulation mode and its fine.  I might dual boot an 64 bit OS and a 32 bit OS11:37
RandomLuserI'd look heavily at virtualization support as a factor.11:37
JohnFluxpremier_: but tomorrow intel is dropping their prices11:37
premier_JohnFlux: I can spend quite a bit11:37
premier_tommarow?11:37
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premier_RandomLuser: virtualization support?11:38
JohnFluxpremier_: iirc11:38
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JohnFluxpremier_: you've chosen the right time to buy :-)11:38
david_New error: What process do I kill to stop using an "x-server" temporarily?11:38
premier_iirc?11:38
RandomLuserpremier_: intel's VT or AMD's pacifica11:38
JohnFluxiirc = if I remember correctly11:38
salaahalright...i have kubuntu up and running. can someone tell me how i can edit the bootloader11:38
premier_david_: the xserver is not something you what to kill11:38
vbgunzdavid_: /etc/init.d/kdm stop11:38
premier_usually11:38
JohnFluxpremier_: new chips support VT.  it means you can run windows and linux at the same time11:38
david_ok....11:39
premier_JohnFlux: how does that work?11:39
vbgunzdavid then use /etc/init.d/kdm start when you want it back11:39
premier_(and why is that possible?)11:39
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premier_JohnFlux: anyway, I'll be buying this summer, not right away11:39
vbgunzJohnFlux: whats the command to find out if my chip supports VT?11:40
salaahanyone?11:40
premier_probably may or june11:40
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vbgunzsalaah: not sure what you mean :(11:40
RandomLuserpremier_: hardware virtualization means you can run several operating systems at once without the overhead of an emulation or software virtualization layer, or with greatly reduced overhead.11:40
JohnFluxvbgunz: cat /proc/cpuinfo     i think, and look for vt11:40
salaahi want to edit the boot loader to change the order11:40
JohnFluxvbgunz: under flags11:40
JohnFluxRandomLuser: um11:40
premier_salaah: are you using grub?  theres a config file in /boot/grub, iirc11:40
flaccidsalaah: order of what?11:40
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salaahyeah,11:41
JohnFluxRandomLuser: i know what you're saying, but if the OS supports it, it's best to use software virtualization11:41
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salaahim using grub....how do i edit menu.lst11:41
vbgunzsalaah: /boot/grub/menu.lst11:41
JohnFluxRandomLuser: it's just that, of course, windows doesn't support it11:41
vbgunzsalaah: you need to be sudo11:41
salaahoh...11:41
flaccidsalaah: with a text editor like kate or nano11:41
salaahbut it wont let me save.,..i tried that already11:41
salaahim a sudo, i just installed it11:42
premier_RandomLuser: how does that work to the luser? ;)  I mean, do you switch back and forth, or do the divy up the screen?  Or does on run in a window of the other?11:42
JohnFluxpremier_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen11:42
bbm4nflaccid: or vi11:42
premier_salaah: go sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst11:42
vbgunzsalaah: how you editing? in console or with an editor like kate?11:42
flaccidbbm4n: or any of the 104839809 text editors available in the world11:42
salaaheditor11:42
JohnFluxpremier_: I've only done it with linux, freebsd  etc11:43
salaahlet me try the terminal now11:43
flaccidsalaah: what command were you using?11:43
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vbgunzsalaah: it should let you save if you opened it as sudo11:43
JohnFluxpremier_: but there I booted into linux, then you use vnc to see the other OSes11:43
salaahi tried that, i get some sort of error11:43
david_Hi... Lol I appreciate the person who told me how, but I guess I crashed my computer... LOL11:43
JohnFluxpremier_: see the screenshot on the wikipedia link i gave11:43
salaaha long eror msg11:43
premier_JohnFlux11:43
premier_that sounds kinda cool... does windows get its own partition?  How does it handle device access?11:44
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flaccidwe can't sense what the error message is11:44
flaccidwe have to be shown what the error is11:44
salaahits looooooooooooooooong11:44
JohnFluxpremier_: all device access goes through 'xen'  which is a tiny OS that boots first11:44
flaccid!pastebin > salaah11:44
JohnFluxpremier_: so  linux and windows are both guests inside xen11:45
salaahok...11:45
premier_JohnFlux: cool. Does amd or intel have better VT support?11:45
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vbgunzJohnFlux: I tried "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I don't see VT or anything like it, I guess I am assed out :(11:45
JohnFluxpremier_: it's the same11:45
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JohnFluxvbgunz: intel or amd?11:46
premier_JohnFlux: so what about Intel vs AMD?  Am I completely nuts to want an amd proccessor?11:46
vbgunzintel pentium 4 about 2 years old11:46
vbgunzI use VirtualBox and Windows runs great11:46
JohnFluxpremier_: there's not much difference in it11:46
vbgunzbut I bet if I supported VT it would probably rock11:47
JohnFluxpremier_: at the moment I'd say chose amd because I don't want them to go bankrupt :-D11:47
bbm4ninterl p4 was a failure imo it had the crappiest pipeline ever11:47
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salaahflaccid: i using pastebin...please wait11:47
MementoMoriciao a tutti11:48
JohnFluxvbgunz: egrep -e 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo11:48
JohnFluxvbgunz: try that11:48
vbgunznope, nothing, I am truly and officially assed out huh :/11:48
vbgunzheh11:48
JohnFluxvbgunz: yeah11:48
MementoMoriho un grosso problema col mio hard disk... sembra che non voglia abilitare il dma...11:48
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premier_JohnFlux: I saw that you can get two amd dual core processors to run in parrallel with  a special motherboard... is there good linux support for that kinda thing?11:49
salaahdamn...pastebin isnt working for some reason11:49
JohnFluxpremier_: yep, pretty good support11:49
david_gnite beautiful and helpful people... :)11:49
vbgunzdavid_: gnight!11:49
JohnFluxpremier_: linux supports several hundred cpus :-)11:49
MementoMoriops... I forgot here is an english chan ;)11:49
premier_MementoMori: ?11:50
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JohnFluxMementoMori: you have big problems with hard disk, it doesn't have dma    or somethign? :)11:50
MementoMoriI'm in trouble with my hd... It seems it's impossibile to turn dma on...11:50
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JohnFluxMementoMori: haha, cool.  and I don't even know what language that is11:50
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MementoMoriwriting hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda return with an erros11:51
MementoMoriHDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device11:51
MementoMorimmm11:51
MementoMoribut I'm sure it is dma capable11:51
MementoMori!pastebin11:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:52
MementoMorihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16997/11:53
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MementoMoriwould you please take a look to my oaste?11:53
MementoMoris/oaste/paste11:53
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bu2anyone know about an feisty upgrade error with "/bin/sh: can't acess tty; job control turned off (initramfs)"11:54
vbgunzanyone know why Thunderbird 2 didn't make it into Fesity?11:54
vbgunzs/Fesity/Feisty11:55
RandomLuservbgunz: it released same day as Feisty IIRC11:55
vbgunzoh11:55
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MidMarkhi11:56
MementoMorihi11:56
ubuntuis peers people that downloads from me?11:56
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ubuntuon torrent what is peers?11:56
RandomLuserno possible way for it to make it in, freeze takes a while...11:56
MidMarkis there a bug report for the problem that in Feisty I cannot install more than 1 debian package with right click?11:56
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vbgunzanyone know how to configure KnetworkManager to actually work? it's just sitting in my tray taking up space :(11:56
MementoMoriso... no news from the hdpart problem?11:57
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premier_ubuntu: I think you're sharing back and forth with peers... don't really know11:57
MementoMorivbgunz: I had no problem with knetworkmanager... It simply works11:57
vbgunzit's just sitting in my tray :(11:57
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salaahi cant figure this out...11:58
salaahi really need help11:58
vbgunzIt don't show any networks or anything :(11:58
premier_thats weird.... I keep trying to update, but it keeps saying "there was an error fetching updates"11:58
MementoMorivbgunz: do you want it to discover wl networks?11:58
salaahi'm trying to eidt menu.lst but i keep getting some error msg11:58
MementoMorivbgunz: or wired networks?11:58
premier_I added a new repo... thats prolly it11:58
vbgunzMementoMori: yeah, sure :)11:58
vbgunzwireless11:58
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flaccidsalaah: what is the error11:59
MementoMoriok... is your wl cards correctly recognized and working?11:59
vbgunzsalaah: try www.dpaste.com if the other pastebin is not working11:59
premier_nope, not it11:59
flaccidwhat is the command you are using salaah. we asked this already11:59
vbgunzMementoMori: yes, I am connected through my wireless now11:59
salaahsudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst11:59
vbgunzsalaah: do you get the editor?11:59
vbgunzdoes it come up?11:59
salaahno...12:00
salaahno12:00
vbgunzoh ok12:00
MementoMoribut knm doesnt show anything... Am I right?12:00
flacciddon't use sudo for X apps salahh12:00
vbgunztry sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst12:00
flacciduse kdesu /boot/grub/menu.lst and ensure root is enabled12:00
vbgunzMementoMori: no, it doesn't show anything and I know I have several routers in my vicinity including mine12:00
salaahhttp://dpaste.com/8861/12:01
MementoMorimaybe they arent broadcasting their sid......12:01
flaccid!baddevice > salaah12:01
vbgunzsalaah: those errors are due to some configs in your xorg.conf12:01
flaccidthat is normal and non-destructive12:01
salaahoh...and what should i do12:02
Last_HeroI accidently downloaded some GNOME desktop things (icon packs and stuff), would I use "sudo purge gnome" to remove them?12:02
vbgunzsalaah: they're basically harmless12:02
flaccidsalaah: nothing.12:02
salaahcool.12:02
MementoMoriso...... I think no one read my hdpart paste :(12:03
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premier_JohnFlux: would it be worth it (it being $400) to run two dual core AMD64's in parallel?  How does that compare to a single dual core AMD64, or a quad core intel, would you guess?12:04
flaccidMementoMori: people probably did. if someone can help they will.12:04
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vbgunzsalaah: open up that file you want to edit like so: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:04
MementoMoriflaccid: I think you are right :D12:04
salaahi think its done...12:04
MementoMorii'll move to #linux12:04
salaahi tried the command again and the error msg came up and the editor opened12:04
vbgunzsalaah: once you have the file open, nano is really easy to use... just pay attention to the lower part of the window, those commands listed you'll need to be aware of in order to successfully save your changes12:05
vbgunzsalaah: I can tell you how to get rid of those errors but first you'll need to successfully open/edit a file as root12:05
salaahyeah, its done. now i need to reboot and see if it works12:05
salaahoh...12:06
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salaahwait...let me install drivers for me graphic card so that i can increase the screen res12:06
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salaahvbgunz: u have a clue as to how i can install nvidia drivers?12:07
flaccid!nvidia12:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:08
premier_has anyone here ever used snes9x?12:08
vbgunzsalaah: backup and edit this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for 3 particular 'Section "InputDevice"' sections... the identifiers to those sections in which you might be able to safely remove in which some or all are causing the errors are: stylus, eraser and cursor... don't just remove them, comment them out, you might need them later.12:08
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salaahwhen u say comment them out u mean add * right?12:09
vbgunzsalaah: oh forgot to mention, in this part of xorg.conf 'Section "ServerLayout"' you need to also comment out stylus, eraser and cursor, save your file and restart x12:10
flaccid!baddevice12:10
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors12:10
flaccid#12:10
vbgunzsalaah: no, #12:10
salaahoh yeah12:10
salaahgive me a moment12:10
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salaahdone...now i reboot my computer?12:11
vbgunzsalaah: that link flaccid raised is a good bookmark12:12
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vbgunzsalaah: no don't reboot, never reboot, Linux knows-all and does-all... trust us, it works... or you can just reboot :)12:12
salaahyeah, but the links helps with ubuntu, cant see a thing about kubuntu 7.0412:12
salaahso...if i dont reboot, how do i restart x?12:13
flaccidits the same in this case12:13
vbgunzsalaah: it's neutral, don't sweat it12:13
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salaahyeah? but there is no restricted drivres section12:13
flaccidsalaah: full restart of X, safe is log out to kdm login screen the select restart X from drop down12:13
flaccidthe=then12:13
vbgunzsalaah: it has to reboot and if not, all you really need to know is how to edit from the terminal to save your ass, sudo nano OR vim to re-edit in terminal12:13
salaahlet me try12:13
salaahbrb12:13
salaahwaoh...12:14
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vbgunzflaccid: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace isn't the same?12:14
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flaccidvbgunz: no that sends kill signals12:14
tmbgwell if he wants to run a new kernel he may want to reboot....12:14
tmbgctrl+alt+bs isn't graceful.12:14
flaccidhe asked how to restart X12:14
flaccidyep12:15
vbgunzflaccid: ahh, you're absolutely right12:15
flaccidjust like tmbg says. its for emergencies when you can't logout of kde12:15
vbgunzboth restart X just one kills it and everything else right?12:15
neongraumy "adept manager" refuses to install anything :(12:15
tmbgyes. it's the big fat freaking hammer version12:15
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flaccidvbgunz: you want to close your kde session before restarting X, thus the logout12:16
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vbgunzsometimes I log out and then at the logout screen do the c+a+b thing to restart X, this is cool or no?12:16
flaccidvbgunz: its ok because you havnt got a kde session and apps open - not logged in12:17
vbgunzI would imagine nothing wrong with that but I like surprises :)12:17
tmbgon feisty now. it seems to have b0rken flash :/12:17
vbgunzyeah, sometimes I do that :)12:17
vbgunztmbg: really?12:17
flaccidif you are fixing a xorg.conf remotely its good to just restart kdm service after you save a new xorg.conf to test it12:17
vbgunzI saw something with flash earlier12:17
flaccidthen you can check the log12:18
vbgunzI admit, I have to learn my logs12:18
neongraucan someone help me fixing the package manager?12:18
ionuswhy the win32 game are not run well with wine12:19
neongraui just installed kubuntu a few hours ago and "adept" already died :(12:19
flaccidneongrau: whats the error12:19
ionusit is more slowly12:19
flaccidtry using apt-get in konsole under sudo to find problem12:20
vbgunzflaccid: it looks like all my logs are in /var/log is this true?12:20
ubuntu__neongrau: my condolances i suggest using windows a proprietary os12:20
flaccidvbgunz: usually12:20
ubuntu__you can get the stripped down version for $3 bucks now12:20
vbgunzI have others in my home dir but most are in /var/log12:20
ubuntu__and it plays the most wonderfull games12:20
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neongrauflaccid: i h ave the german error only, s.th. about changes can't be written because of problems while downloading12:21
ionus!modem12:21
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto12:21
vbgunzubuntu__: why you trying to hex neongrau?12:21
ionus!siemens12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about siemens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
flaccidneongrau: please pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in konsole. i'll read the german12:22
neongrauvbgunz: i already ignored that kiddie12:22
madmiketime for me to get more ram and a new graphics card12:22
vbgunzgnight fellas!12:22
neongrauflaccid:  sudo apt-get update seemed to ran without error12:23
ubuntu__neongrau: my condolances i suggest using windows a proprietary os12:23
flaccidneongrau: what are you trying to do. install something or update?12:23
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neongrauflaccid: last time it was trying to install some sun java bs12:24
flaccidneongrau: install it via cli with apt-get install packagename and pastebin the error if there is one12:24
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neongrauflaccid: hmm  "sudo apt-get upgrade" really complains about "sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre"12:25
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flaccidpastebin it12:25
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neongrauflaccid: i'm follwoing some weird ncurses dialog on konsole to accept some sun license crap :S12:26
flaccidyep you have to do that12:26
flaccidbecause its non free12:26
flaccid!java12:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:26
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neongraui haven't mentioned today that i hate java ...grrr...12:27
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flaccidhaha12:27
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Last_HeroI love Java :P12:28
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RawSewagehow do you turn on video preview in Feisty12:30
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ubuntuHellu Guys. Could someone tell me where I can activate the 3D things in Kubuntu 7.04 ?12:30
neongrauflaccid: yay, that manual "upgrade" on the konsole fixed it. thanks alot!12:30
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aleksanteriubuntu: join #ubuntu-effects12:30
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RawSewage!video preview12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video preview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
flaccidnp neongrau12:31
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RawSewagehow do you turn on video preview in Feisty12:34
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_4strOviedeo preview ?12:35
RawSewageyeah, icons12:35
RawSewagevideo thumbnails12:35
_4strOha ok12:35
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ForgeAushey all12:35
ForgeAusum how do I change the type flag of a partition?12:36
ForgeAuswithout reformatting it?12:36
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freqmodHello, does anybody know how to do a kubuntu netinstall, I have managed to boot the ubuntu netinstaller, but I can't find the kubuntu netinstall image.12:36
ForgeAusqtparted/gparted let you reformat as a diff type, but not to change an existing type flag12:36
ForgeAus(currently its unknown)12:36
ForgeAusso I can't even convertfs not that I want to change the data on the drive anyway12:37
neongrauis there a way to get thunderbird 2 with adept or should i install that manually with the official package from mozilla.org ?12:37
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_4strORawSewage: options of konqueror12:37
flaccidForgeAus: fdisk12:37
evissecxWich messenger clients is there that supports send and recieve webcam?12:37
ForgeAusflaccid can yout alk me through it?12:37
flaccidevissecx: kopete does12:37
flaccidum12:37
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flaccidlet me see12:37
adz21cHi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?12:38
evissecxmm, kopete, but it doesnt wotk well since uppgrade to feisty12:38
evissecxwrok12:38
RawSewage_4strO, seems to me I had to add something .  ALSA or something?12:38
evissecxwork!12:38
tony__Neongrau: I manually installed from mozilla.org12:38
_4strORawSewage: preview and meta informations (didn't know if ot's the exact words, i have the fr version)12:38
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flaccidForgeAus: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb1 or whatever12:39
flaccidthen m to see commands12:39
_4strORawSewage: perhaps but i didn' put anything special to have it :p12:39
_4strORawSewage: you're on kubuntu ?12:39
RawSewage_4strO, ok, thx.  I'll check that out12:39
RawSewageyes12:39
_4strORawSewage: you can read video ?12:39
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RawSewagewhat12:40
ForgeAusok doing that12:40
_4strORawSewage: ca you play videos ?12:40
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_4strOcan*12:41
ForgeAust   change a partition's system id12:41
ForgeAusdoes that mean change the type flag?12:41
RawSewage_4strO, yes12:41
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flaccidim not sure what your situation is and what you need to do12:42
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ForgeAusflaccid I have an unknown partition that I need to tell windows that its a vfat (fat32) drive12:43
ForgeAuswhere an XP install is located12:43
flaccidok12:43
flaccidtype l12:43
ForgeAusI'm not entirely certain it will work12:43
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ForgeAusyeah c is the one12:43
ForgeAusI think12:43
adz21c_Hi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?12:43
ForgeAusc  W95 FAT32 (LBA)12:43
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ForgeAusyou were right about the drive it hust happened to be /dev/hdb1 in this case (so I guess your psychic :) hehe)12:44
flaccidhehe12:44
flaccidyeah so i guess if you are confident12:44
flaccidchange it it with t12:44
flaccidand then write then quit12:44
ForgeAusok well it can't do any worse than being an unusable disk right?12:44
flaccidthen pray?12:44
ForgeAushehe12:44
ForgeAusalready doing that :)12:44
flaccidok12:44
flaccidyou can also run fsck on it12:45
RawSewage_4strO, I think I found the answer.  I have to install libarts1-xine12:45
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_4strORawSewage:  ok :)12:46
_4strOwill try12:46
ionushow i can send file with gaim12:46
ionushow i can send file with gaim12:46
flaccidForgeAus: hope this disk is unmounted12:46
flaccidit probably should be. you probably can't mount it anyway atm?12:46
_4strOit isn't gaim no mode12:46
_4strOit isn't gaim no more12:46
ionushow i can send file with gaim please help12:46
ForgeAusum ... good point I should have checked that.. the change didn't go through12:46
ForgeAus(I think because gparted was still looking at it12:46
flaccidtrue12:47
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flaccidionus: don't repeat12:47
aleksanteri!repeat | ionus12:47
ubotuionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:47
ForgeAusWARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.12:47
ForgeAusThe kernel still uses the old table.12:47
ionuswith wich program i can send file on inthernet12:48
ForgeAusits not mounted12:48
ionusplease help12:48
ForgeAusumount doesn't work with it anyway12:48
ForgeAussays it isn't mounted12:48
flaccidionus: try kopete if you can't work gaim out12:48
ionus!send file12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about send file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
ForgeAus(and gparted is closed this time)12:48
_4strOionus: by mail ?12:48
ionusno direct send12:48
ionus?12:48
ForgeAusso if I reboot will it update the partition table?12:49
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_4strOirc12:49
ForgeAusor should it have gone through straight away?12:49
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JohnFluxHas anyone heard of cisco routing client routing _all_ traffic and preventing you from accessing the local network?12:50
ForgeAusoh well rebooting anyway... bbl12:50
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ionuswhy in gaim i dont see all contacts12:50
JohnFluxThere's an option to route local traffic trough the lan, but it's disabled (bad policy on the vpn server maybe?)12:50
adz21c_ionus: do you mean u can't see offline contacts?12:50
ionusno all12:51
Zeddyionus: you tried kopete ?12:51
ionusyes12:51
ionusbut i dont see al coontacts12:51
Zeddy*shrugs* i see all mine.. so no idea sorry (i use kopete) :?12:51
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adz21c_ditto12:52
ionusand i cant to send the file to yahoo mesenger on win12:52
adz21c_works for me on kopete12:52
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flaccidcould be firewall12:53
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ionus!x server12:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:56
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ionuswhat is x server12:56
ionus?12:56
ionusi can install video driver becose i runing an x server12:57
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krautmoin12:57
Zeddyionus: i'm not sure what your problem is.. you cant install or can?12:58
adz21c_ionus: http://www.bellevuelinux.org/x_server.html <- x server definition12:58
ionusi cant12:58
Zeddywhat driver are you trying to install?12:58
Zeddynvidia? or ati?12:58
ionusnvidia12:58
ionusfrom www.nvidia.com12:59
Zeddysudo apt-get install nvidia12:59
_4strO...12:59
flaccidor12:59
flaccid!nvidia12:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:59
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Zeddyeven better :P12:59
ionusbut i want to install from www.nvidia.com12:59
flaccidok12:59
ionusspecial for my graphic gard01:00
flaccidnp01:00
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cox377os there such a thing as a gui for setting up / config samba for users etc?01:00
=== _4strO think ionus gonna break everything :p
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cox377is there such a thing as a gui for setting up / config samba for users etc?01:00
flaccidcox377: a good one in kcontrol01:00
ionus:(01:00
_4strOcox377: in your system settings01:00
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Zeddyionus: is there a linux driver from nvidia?01:01
ionusyes01:01
cox377flaccid: not installed i shall have a look01:01
Zeddywhat format does it come down as? a .deb? or .tar.gz01:01
ju_c01:01
ionusii have instaled driver but games dont run well01:01
Zeddywhat games :?01:02
ionus.run01:02
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ionuswarcraft01:02
ionus.run01:02
Zeddyno idea sorry.. dont play games myself.. maybe someone else can help...01:02
cox377flaccid: ok is installed : P, whats the gui called?01:03
ionusnoo tell me hhow to install driver with run estension01:03
ionus?01:03
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_4strOcox377: kcontrol01:03
ionuszeddy !01:03
stacja5hello:-)01:03
ubuntu_how do i know if I have updated to feisty fawn?01:03
ubuntu_what should I loock for?01:04
_4strOubuntu_: type : lsb_release -a in a console01:04
adz21c_ionus: the driver you will be trying to install should be available via a .deb01:04
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flaccidif you go to nvidia.com - follow their documentation. rtfm.01:04
ionusit is identic from nvidia?01:04
ubuntu_Distributor ID: Ubuntu01:05
ubuntu_Description:    Ubuntu 7.0401:05
ubuntu_Release:        7.0401:05
ubuntu_Codename:       feisty01:05
adz21c_ionus: yes01:05
ubuntu_Is that feisty fawn?01:05
ionusok01:05
flaccid!pastebin > ubuntu_01:05
_4strOubuntu_: you see no, it's dapper !01:05
ionusthx01:05
Zeddylol01:05
ubuntu_It is?01:05
_4strO...01:05
aleksanteriubuntu_: :P01:05
ubuntu_I thought I had edgy?01:05
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aleksanteriubuntu_: can't you see it there? Codename: feisty01:05
aleksanteri:P01:05
ubuntu_Oh01:06
adz21c_ionus: install nvidia-glx, its not the latest driver available from nvidia but it should work fine01:06
ubuntu_lol01:06
_4strO...01:06
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ubuntu_what torrent program is good?01:06
Zeddyionus: from memory to run a .run all you need to do is ./(filename) ... (as far as i recall)01:06
_4strOubuntu_:  ktorrent01:06
flaccid!info azureus > ubuntu_01:06
Zeddyktorrent is sweet01:06
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_4strOZeddy: right01:06
ionus<adz21c_> is not good for games01:06
adz21c_ionus: all you will have to do then is go to "System settings" and select "Monitor & Display" then choose to use the proprietry driver01:06
ionuswait01:07
_4strOionus: for windows game you should have a look on cedega01:07
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ionuswhat01:07
Jacko2007hello?01:07
_4strO!cedega01:07
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:07
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adz21c_ionus: it is, i am using the ones from deb, not that exact same one as i just recommended but I am using cedega and q4 and doom 3 and all is happy01:07
ionusok01:07
Jacko2007Can anyone help me wiyh a wireless internet problem?01:08
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ubuntu_I can help somebody with a wireless network problem!01:08
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ionusin win32 warcraft run verry well but in kubuntu is more slowly01:08
_4strO!ask | Jacko200701:08
ubotuJacko2007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:08
adz21c_ionus: probably cos its not made for linux01:08
ionusufff01:09
ubuntu_what games that is exspencive is made for linux?01:09
ionusi new in linux but i like01:09
ubuntu_Yeah, linux rules!01:09
Jacko2007I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip01:10
Jacko2007any ideas?01:10
adz21c_ubuntu_: quake 4, doom 3, neverwinter nights 1 & 2 and various ports like X2: Threat work native01:10
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ForgeAusflaccid you there?01:10
ForgeAusstill more issues01:10
ionuswich kinux is more coplcated ubuntu or kubuntu01:10
ubuntu_Do you have the full comand to get a multiplayer first person shooter?01:10
ForgeAusthe type flag didn't alter what qtparted reports01:10
ForgeAusqtparted still believes its unknown01:11
flaccidi don't know if i can help further01:11
flaccidfsck01:11
adz21c_ionus: they are the same, just a different desktop enviroment, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde installed by default instead of gnome01:11
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ForgeAusworse than that the fdisk command shows 2 partitions that overlap01:11
_4strOubuntu_: sudo apt-get install openarena01:11
ForgeAusbut it shows 4 partitions in total01:11
ForgeAusin qtparted theres only 201:11
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icecruncherjust installed feisty. thanks to the deelopment team for doing such a great job!!01:11
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ionusand waht is diferente betw. KDE asn gnome01:11
ubuntu_Ho makes kubuntu?01:12
Jacko2007I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip anyone?01:12
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ubuntu_Gnome looks like shit, kde is eye candy, thats my opinion!01:12
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ionusand who needs more resurse?01:13
adz21c_ionus: my opinion is same as ubuntu_ but some people like a couple of my friends prefer to gnome look, it has the same purpose as KDE just goes about it different in places01:13
ionusand who needs more pc resurse?01:13
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ubuntu_Not me!01:14
Jacko2007someone help me!01:14
ubuntu_with what?01:14
Jacko2007I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip anyone?01:14
Jacko2007how do I get it to connect?01:14
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ubuntu_write in your iop manually?01:15
ubuntu_ip*01:15
zaphedhi01:15
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Jacko2007it still doesn't do it01:15
ubuntu_In ktorrent, would it download faster if it uploads faser?01:15
ForgeAusdosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN01:15
ForgeAusCurrently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191.01:15
ForgeAuswhats 191 about?01:15
Jacko2007no it would download at the same speed01:15
ZeddyJacko2007: have you tried to manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces01:15
Jacko2007no01:16
ubuntu_So the share ratio doesn't matter?01:16
Jacko2007no01:16
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ubuntu_ok01:16
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Jacko2007how do I edt the interfaces01:16
ubuntu_But it is nice to share dough?01:16
ju_Hi everyone, I've got a huge problem:  I just upgraded from edgy to festy and my touchpad does not work anymore even when I had the relevant sections in the xorg.conf file. Here is the error shown in the xorg.log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17006/. Furthermore, when I type cat /proc/bus/input/devices there is no entry looking like my touchpad http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17009/.01:16
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Zeddytry that, and assign it an ip.. as an example (mine)01:16
Zeddyiface eth0 inet static01:16
Zeddyaddress 10.0.0.101:16
Zeddynetmask 255.0.0.001:16
Zeddygateway 10.0.0.13801:16
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Zeddyopen a terminal and do a sudo (editor of your choice I use pico) /etc/network/interfaces01:17
Jacko2007what's with your gateway 10.0.0.13801:17
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Jacko2007mine is 192.#.#.# ect01:18
ubuntu_How do I decide withc speakers the sound comes out off?01:18
JohnBoyhello, just upgraded to fiesty and now no wireless, I manage to conenct and be issued an IP but no internet01:18
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ZeddyJacko2007:  yep.. just change to suit (i use the 10.0.0.# range01:18
ubuntu_Is it possibole to decide witch speakers the sound comes out off?01:18
flaccidubuntu_: do not repeat01:19
ubuntu_But is it?01:19
aleksanteri!repeat | ubuntu_01:19
ubotuubuntu_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:19
Jacko2007I thought you could di it in kmix01:19
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ubuntu_!patiense01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patiense - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
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flaccid!patience01:19
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:19
Jacko2007I will be back soon let me just test my internet01:20
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opa-mannihallo @ all01:20
_4strOhi01:20
Zeddyanyone come accross this error before......01:20
Zeddydpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:01:20
Zeddy EOF after field name `'01:20
ZeddyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)01:20
ubuntu_What good sound managers is it for kubuntu?01:20
Jacko2007ok01:20
_4strOkmix01:21
_4strOZeddy: never seen before01:21
adz21c_ju_: tried this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499014 I not really read it but someone seems to think they got a solution for something that produces the same error, not sure if it helps01:22
ubuntu_what good network manager?01:22
Zeddy*nods* got me beat.... happened right after my dist-upgrade cant use apt anymore.. might try and remove and reinstall01:22
onsightHi Luser! I have some processes named "udevd" which are  driving my cpu up to more than 90%. What is "udevd" and how can I resolve this Problem? Does somebody know? Thanks!01:22
flaccid!knetworkmanager01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
flaccid!info knetworkmanager01:22
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB01:22
_4strOZeddy: what did you do to have this message ?01:22
ubuntu_ok01:22
_4strOZeddy: ok01:23
Zeddyapt-get (anything) and it fails with that message :(01:23
_4strOcan you paste the file ?01:23
_4strO/var/lib/dpkg/available01:23
_4strOthe beginnig plz01:23
Zeddyjust looked at it.. looks corrupted i have a backup.. will check that now01:23
adz21c_Hi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?01:24
Jacko2007I still cannot get it to connect01:24
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_4strOadz21c_: dont have01:24
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nirmalhi all01:25
Jacko2007does copete support webcam?01:25
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ubuntuHow do i install flashplayer 9 for konqueror?01:26
ubuntu_kopete supports webcam!01:26
ubuntu_Ubuntu you don't01:26
Zeddy_4strO: BINGO!! corrupted file.... used back up.. and apt is back!! :P01:26
flaccid!flash01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash01:26
ubuntu_ubuntu I think you have to use firefox!01:26
ubuntudamn really???01:26
adz21c_no01:26
_4strOZeddy: think you could just remove this file (or rename it)01:26
adz21c_it can work in konqueror01:26
ubuntukonqueror doesnt do flash01:26
ubuntuhow?01:26
Zeddyahh01:26
flaccidby reading01:27
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ubuntui am trying to install it with tar it tells me i need mozilla firefox or seamonkey01:27
ubuntui came here because i dont know how01:27
ubuntu_ntu told you so!01:27
_4strOZeddy: not sure, but seems to not be necessary01:27
Cugel I have a question: dmesg shows me (feisty) lots of errors of the type: "atl1: hw csum wrong" -- google brings up just two hits, none relevant. Anyone any idea?01:27
ubuntuflaccid reading what?01:27
ubuntu_I can't see anything diffrent in feisty fawn, except a hp thingi!01:27
adz21c_ubuntu: i think he means the above links have a tutorial possibly01:27
Zeddyahh cool...  ill just delete it and see what happens.. (always have the backip_)01:27
Zeddy*backup*01:27
ubuntuok Zeddy you are a flaccid mind reader interesting01:28
ubuntuflaccid thanks but i dont know what to read01:28
Zeddylol.. that was for _4strO :P01:28
ubuntucould you be more specific please01:28
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flaccidinstall the flash package01:28
ubuntuflaccid: thats what i am trying it wont let me01:29
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ubuntuit tells me i need mozilla or firefox or seamonkey01:29
adz21c_ubuntu: not the tar, i think he means theres a deb01:29
ubuntui am talking about konqueror01:29
flaccidis flash installed?01:30
ubuntuwhat is a deb?01:30
ubuntunope01:30
ubuntu_a debian package01:30
_4strOZeddy: there is the list of all package you have installed on the system i think01:30
Jacko2007has anyone else got wireless problems?01:30
ubuntui am using kubuntu01:30
adz21c_ubuntu: look up on debian package management and things will become more clear01:30
ubuntuthis is confusing01:30
icecruncher_4strO: dpgk -l01:30
ubuntume01:30
flacciduse sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree01:31
flaccid!info flashplugin-nonfree01:31
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)01:31
ubuntuthanks flaccid01:31
_4strOicecruncher: yep i know01:31
flaccidmake sure multiverse is enabled01:31
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Jacko2007I have noticed that yesterday when I right click on thet isn't network icon it told me I could connect o my router today i01:32
ju_adz21c: can you tell me what am I suppose to do with /sbin/rmmod psmouse; /sbin/modprobe -v psmouse ?01:32
ju_adz21c: it's in the last post01:32
flaccidubuntu: http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror01:32
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adz21c_ju_: hold on i have a look, like i said i didn't read it and don't use synaptic pad so I see what I can figure out :-)01:32
KubuntuWhat can NOT be done in kubuntu?01:33
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ju_adz21c: thanks :)01:33
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Jacko2007BRB gonna restart01:33
ubuntuflaccid konqueror still doesnt allow me to view flash01:33
ubuntu:/01:33
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flacciddid you read my link?01:34
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ubuntufalsh player is installed01:34
KubuntuWhere do I register to get my own nick and colorS?01:34
flaccidIn the menu, select "Settings -> Configure Konqueror". Click "Plugins" (the last item in the icon menu the the left". Click on the button "Scan for new Plugins".01:34
_4strOZeddy: i have tried, rename the file to available.bak and then sudo apt-get update --> it has create a new one01:34
_4strO!register | kubuntu01:34
ubotukubuntu: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:34
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Zeddy_4strO: yep just seen that myself... looks like all i had to do was delete it..  :D  thanks for the help onn that one..01:34
_4strOZeddy: then it's better to delete it otherwise put an older version01:35
Zeddyaye.. looks like it..01:35
_4strOsure it's a list off all your package01:36
_4strOdidn't know what he do if the list is bad01:36
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adz21c_ju_: basically during boot up u need that "code" to be run in order for it to work, hold on I find out what file u need to modify etc01:36
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ju_adz21c_: thanks :)01:37
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_4strO!upgrade01:38
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)01:38
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Jacko2007Still no wirelss internet01:38
Midspeedhi everybody i would like to know how it went to some people who have upgraded to the latest version of kubuntu?01:38
adz21c_ju_: for now run that line of code in console and see what happens01:38
Jacko2007it's gone ok for me so far apart from my WiFi01:39
icecruncher_how the heck do you ghost your nick?01:39
Midspeedok, thats good01:39
Jacko2007are you thinking of upgrading01:39
Midspeedha ha ha too late, im upgrading as we talk01:39
adz21c_ju_: you will have to sudo for it01:39
Jacko2007hehe01:39
Midspeedi installed debian on my laptop and i have kubuntu on my desktop01:39
adz21c_ju_: and also might have to shut down X as well01:40
ju_adz21c_: I did it and I've got : insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko (for the second command)01:40
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Jacko2007I have xp on my desktop and kubuntu on my laptop01:40
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Jacko2007anyone any other ideas of how to get my internet to work?01:40
ju_adz21c_: I did X :1 to test it, is it not enough ?01:40
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flaccidJacko2007: whats the situation01:40
Midspeednice, my mother who has been using windows since the beggining, is starting to have thoughts of changing to linux ha ha ha01:40
Jacko2007I was using my Wifi on the previous versions of kubuntu with no problems01:41
flaccidwhich card and driver01:41
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Jacko2007erm01:41
Jacko2007I don't know ;)01:41
_4strOJacko2007: have you try to connect with an eth connection ?01:41
flaccidright01:41
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adz21c_ju_: don't know :-) I would shutdown X either way to be safe I guess01:41
Jacko2007yes that's what I am using01:41
makuseruhi, i just downloaded a pretty big rar, and apparently i clicked "open with" instead of "save as" but i closed it when it opened, does it save it anywhere on my HD? in a temp folder or somthing?01:41
truevoxMay I trouble someone with a stupid question re: Xorg?01:42
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ju_adz21c_: I just do ctrl alt backspace ?01:42
adz21c_ju_: i think that reboots X, you might have to ctrl+alt+f1, log in, then sudo init 3, then once entered commands, sudo init 501:43
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truevoxWhat is the CLI command to configure Xorg?01:43
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ju_adz21_c i'll try that01:43
oliver_who was helping m01:43
truevoxI'm ashamed to say I've been googleing for about 20 minutes with no luck :(01:43
adz21c_truevox: in what way do u want to configure it?01:43
flaccidtruevox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:44
LattywareHey all, I have the nVidia drivers installed, and I wish to get beryl running. So far, I have beryl installed, but when I choose beryl as the WM it just reverts back.01:44
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makuseruLattyware: go to #beryl theyll help you01:44
truevoxOk, thank you flaccid. Adz21c: I need to remake it,  I think. That's what I had to do last time I had this problem.01:44
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adz21c_truevox: then what flaccid said will do the trick :-)01:45
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ju_adz1c_: init does not work on ubuntu01:45
truevoxadz21c_: Awesome. TY Both.01:45
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adz21c_ju_: try telinit?01:45
oliver_anyone?01:45
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ju_adz21c_: neither01:46
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se7ensomeone need some fun http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html01:46
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adz21c_ju_: one mo01:46
livingdaylighthey, guys01:46
livingdaylight... so i thought i heard that CNR was going to be part of Ubuntu as part of the new UBuntu /Linspire partnership. Anyone know what is going on there?01:47
KubuntuOMFG, edgy can use dhcp, and automaticaly log in to a wireless network!01:47
Kubuntufeisty*01:47
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icecruncherhow can you autostart a program at login?01:48
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flaccid!autostart01:49
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:49
livingdaylighti repeat: does anyone know about the CNR situation in Ubuntu?01:49
_4str1ok my wifi connexion work well on feisty :)01:50
icecruncherflaccid, a link as in new link to app right?01:50
Last_Herosorry, I haven't heard much besides the partnership, livingdaylight01:50
livingdaylightLast_Hero, :s oh... well, never mind then ^^01:50
livingdaylightI was sure that Ubuntu was going to get CNR as part of the partnership/tradeoff01:51
Last_HeroI don't keep up with the news though, all I heard was from the Freespire newsletter01:51
_4str1flaccid: you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart <-- ln -s /usr/bin/... right ?01:51
Last_Heroand that was a while ago01:51
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makuseruhi, i just downloaded a pretty big rar, and apparently i clicked "open with" instead of "save as" but i closed it when it opened, does it save it anywhere on my HD? in a temp folder or somthing?01:52
mart81hey, anyone knows what "assign accelerator" means in ktorrent?01:53
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flaccidyeah its just symlinks in ~/.kde/Autostart01:53
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adz21cju_: ok, 2 ways we can go about it then, u can either reboot into revcovery mode, log in, run the commands, then run 'sudo init 2' or 'sudo telinit 2' whichever works for u, or we can modify some boot up files and see what happens in a normal boot01:54
mart81flaccid: myeah, but i can't find it in ktorrent01:54
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mart81flaccid: i try to translate the tool01:55
ju_adz21c: i'll try the first way : thanks01:55
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adz21cju_: ok01:55
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s17lansello01:57
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acetahi01:58
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^GOJKO^Which ISO file is instalation on Kubuntu 7??01:59
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^GOJKO^Alternate or desktop???01:59
_4str1!kubuntu feisty01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
_4str1!kubuntu01:59
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE01:59
^GOJKO^!kde01:59
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.01:59
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_4str1^GOJKO^: ^GOJKO^ http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest02:00
^GOJKO^for instalation what I need to download Alternate or Desktop??02:01
acetausually desktop02:01
_4str1desktop is fine02:01
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s17lanstry desktop02:01
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Impaquei disagree. alternate is way more flexible, f.e. with desktop you couldn't pick xfs for a filesystem.02:02
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Impaquemoreover, the installations is more "jerky" with desktop, at least from my experience.02:02
^GOJKO^Does kubuntu have vpn??02:02
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Edulixhi02:02
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adz21c^GOJKO^: it has kvpn if thats what your looking for02:03
^GOJKO^Do anyone know how to instal beryl on kubuntu?02:03
flaccid!beryl02:04
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:04
flaccid!vpn02:04
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD02:04
flaccid!info openvpn02:04
ubotuopenvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.9-5 (feisty), package size 328 kB, installed size 988 kB02:04
adz21c^GOJKO^: for me I just installed the package and added some options to my xorg for better performance from graphics card02:04
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^GOJKO^I had problems with VPN02:05
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^GOJKO^I changed 4 distrous02:05
acetamy kicker does not show up - does anyone know how to restore it?02:05
lupuldid anyone here manage to play mohaa or equake on linux?02:05
lupuland if yes then how?02:05
adz21caceta: Alt+F2, then put in kicker02:05
acetatells me it isn't installed02:05
Impaque^GOJKO^: what probs?02:05
^GOJKO^I couldnt connect02:06
acetabut apt tells me it is :-/02:06
^GOJKO^I tried02:06
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^GOJKO^with Open Suse02:06
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^GOJKO^kvpnc02:06
^GOJKO^it dont work :(02:06
acetaany way to reinstall kicker ?02:07
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Impaque^GOJKO^: well, although VPN is looking really strange until you learn some basics, after you do, it's really simple. f.e. openvpn usual config is no more than 6-7 lines. you should read up a bit on it. www.openvpn.net02:07
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^GOJKO^I tried openvpn02:08
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^GOJKO^but openvpn need some key's02:08
^GOJKO^but i didnt have this :/02:08
Impaque^GOJKO^: well keys are a basic part of a VPN. you need to create them, openVPN provides scripts for that.02:09
Impaque^GOJKO^: just RTM02:09
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^GOJKO^I am begginer at linux02:09
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^GOJKO^i dont know how to create this :(02:09
adz21caceta: try 'apt-get --reinstall install kicker'02:09
adz21caceta of course sudo or kdesu or whatever u can on the front of that, i recommend doing it in konsole so u can see the output02:10
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acetathanks02:11
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acetathe problem now is that i dont have an internet connection and cant start it with knetworkmanger..02:12
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adz21caceta: I assume you got kicker back now then? also what you mean you can't start it, what exactly happens?02:13
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acetano, apt wants to download kicker from the server02:13
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adz21caceta: oh i get ya lol, ok hold02:13
aceta:)02:14
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adz21caceta: u can run console i assume?02:15
acetayeah, it's running02:15
adz21caceta: look up 'man apt-cdrom' I think that allows you to add a CD as a repository, so you should be able to use you feisty/edgy/dapper/whatever disk as your repo for the kick deb02:16
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acetathanks :)02:17
gceeis wiki.kubuntu.com down?02:17
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si^Hey, maybe someone is able to help me. I tried few times to install ATI drivers @ [ kubuntu 6.10, Radeon 9100 ] . When i use aticonfig --initial + reboot my screen went black and after few sec i see console login prompt. Here is method + xorg logs/conf i used: http://tinyurl.com/269fa2 . Thnx for help.02:22
canensi^: have you tried envy?02:23
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damaltorhello everybody... i have a question about the adept updater. after doing the normal update work, it told me that there ist a new version of kubuntu (feisty) and asked if i wanted to update directly. is there a risk of loosing my data? or is this a secure update? what will be kept (settings, files,...) and what will be destroyed?02:24
si^canen: no?02:24
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canensi^: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html02:24
canenshould make things easier02:25
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canendamaltor: from what i've been hearing people are getting mixed results02:25
si^thnx canen :) i'll try this method02:25
canenin general it should be fine02:25
canensi^: np02:25
damaltorwell... i hope that im general...02:26
damaltor=)02:26
canen:)02:26
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damaltori did some system work like installing nvidia drivers, using 686 kernel insterad of generic, and so on. could that be a problem?02:26
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damaltormost programs i use are from the package manager, but some are selfmade /self compiled. is that a risk?02:27
adz21cdamaltor: if your running edgy you should find the 686 stuff are dummy packages and your using generic anyway02:27
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damaltor0o02:28
damaltoro.. well... never noticed that02:28
damaltor?=)02:28
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adz21cthey decided to drop the specific arch stuff cos there wasn't enough of a performance improvement to warrant all the extra effort02:28
adz21ci think thats the reasoning anyway02:28
damaltorlol...02:28
damaltorok02:28
adz21cso those packages are there to help with the transition :-)02:29
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damaltorwhat about the drivers and self-compiled tools? will they be problematic?02:29
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adz21cdrivers could be an issue, for example if u have a manual install of the nvidia driver that will probably stop working, but if ur using the ubuntu deb of the driver you should be ok02:30
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acetaadz21c: umm, how do i tell apt to use the cd now?02:30
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acetadidn't see that in the manpages :p02:30
damaltorput the cd into the drive, and add the source into the sources.list02:30
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adz21che wants to know how to override the online sources02:31
damaltorim using the deb...02:31
damaltoroh wel..02:31
hidemanhello02:31
damaltorumm..02:31
damaltorwhy?02:31
adz21che has no internet02:31
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acetabecause i dont have an internet connection atm02:31
damaltorwhy is he online then?02:31
damaltor=)02:31
damaltorno02:31
damaltorsr02:31
damaltory02:31
acetaanother pc ;)02:31
adz21c:P02:31
damaltoropen the sources list02:32
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adz21ci guess u could disable the online sources temp, that would guarantuee them not getting there02:32
damaltorund put a # in front of every line whis is an online repository02:32
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damaltordo apt-get update02:32
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damaltorand make ur installation02:32
nirmalnirmal-desktop 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:32
nirmalcan u plz tell me the name of this distro, i have long back downloaded it02:32
nirmalit is the output of uname02:32
nirmaltoday i could install it to hdd02:32
damaltorafter that, remove the #'s02:32
damaltorand do apt-get update agaien02:33
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adz21cdamaltor: for the self compiled ones, depends how good your dependencies were specified in the debs you made, if they lose dependencies it may remove or give u the option to or atleast stop the upgrade when it gets to them, then u can remove and compile against the new libs etc02:33
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adz21cdamaltor: after do the upgrade of course02:34
acetathanks :)02:34
damaltork..02:34
damaltorwell02:34
damaltorim going to try now...02:34
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damaltorcya later02:34
adz21cdamaltor: of course this is all guess work :-P these are my assumptions, i dnt tend to dist-upgrade, i install from CD02:34
damaltorhopefully...02:34
adz21cdamaltor: good luck02:34
damaltorwell i just dont want ro have a completely new system... i just wanna upgrade02:35
damaltor=)02:35
adz21c:)02:35
acetahrm, apt says reinstallation is not possible because it cant be dled... but the cdrom is in the sources.list and i updated apt-get :-/02:36
adz21chmmm02:36
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robertugohow can i turn on compiz in kubuntu 7.04?02:37
acetaperhaps i should simply reinstall kubuntu :p02:38
adz21caceta i was thinking same thing :P02:38
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acetaokay then ;)02:38
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acetabut thanks for your help :)02:38
adz21cno problem02:38
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robertugoi know i should turn on some options in configs but i dont see it02:39
adz21crobertugo: should be a matter of installing compiz and its gui manager then using that to turn it on i would guess02:39
robertugokk02:40
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Jacko2007Ok I am going to fix my Wifi now02:40
Jacko2007any ideas?02:40
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Jacko2007anybody here?02:41
boom#ubuntu-trivia02:42
adz21cwhats ur problem?02:42
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nirmal<adz21c>: is my kubuntu version known by uname02:42
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adz21cnirmal: 'lsb_release -a'02:43
MinceRwell, congrats for feisty02:43
Jacko2007I have install Kubuntu Feisty Fawn and my Wifi ha stopped working02:43
MinceRsince the upgrade, my machine won't even boot02:43
Jacko2007it's not displaying any nearby connections02:43
MinceRit turned the ide discs into scsi discs and surprisingly can't find them now02:43
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Jacko2007my device is active and been found by kubuntu but it never connects and always gives out a 169 ip address02:44
MinceRwhy is it that every time i upgrade [k] ubuntu i have to spend a week hacking it to get it to work again?02:44
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Jacko2007because you hacked into it before thee update it fixes what you hacked and then you have to rehack ot?02:44
kalenedraelWipe your HD, start with a fresh install.02:45
MinceRi didn't hack it that deeply...02:45
Jacko2007lol02:45
adz21cJacko2007: oh, well i guess I personally don't knwo then, i was hoping I might be able to guess some possibilities but i never used wireless in linux so i am stuck02:45
MinceRmaybe i'll do that02:45
MinceRi'll try yet another distro and curse a lot when that fails too02:45
kalenedraelThe new install cannot be allowed to know anything about the previous state of the system, or it will manage to fuck up.02:45
adz21ci always fresh install any linux distro personally02:45
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Jacko2007my device is active and been found by kubuntu but it never connects and always gives out a 169 ip address02:46
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Jacko2007stupid wifi02:47
kalenedraelI figured this out the hard way. After keeping configurations from install to install, I found that it just got worse and worse. Start over each time. :P02:47
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Filthpighi02:47
FilthpigI have a problem with k3b02:47
kalenedraelDo you now? :P02:47
Filthpigit claims I don't have libmad installed, but I do02:47
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kalenedraelWhere is it looking for libmad?02:48
Filthpigon startup02:48
Filthpigheh02:48
Filthpigtells me I can't burn/convert mp3 files02:48
ubuntu_hi i'm having problems mounting my NTFS partition: I use; sudo mount -o unmask=000 /dev/sda5 /mnt, and get error; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda502:48
ubuntu_I'm in live cd*02:48
si^canen: still same problem, i see envy made same steps i did... effect is again black screen + fglrxinfo output: "Error: unable to open display :0"02:48
thoreauputicFilthpig: apt-cache search libmp3 k3b02:48
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Filthpigno output, thoreauputic02:49
thoreauputicFilthpig: it's something like libmp3-k3b ( forget exactly)02:49
Jacko2007how do I manually add a (wireless) network02:49
kalenedrael'umask', not 'unmask'02:50
ubuntu_ahh02:50
thoreauputicFilthpig:  libk3b2-mp3   <--that one02:50
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ubuntu_thankyou!02:50
Filthpigthoreauputic: ah, found it through adept02:50
si^canen: maybe it has something to do with that i have connected TVOUT cable + tv? :(02:50
thoreauputicOK02:50
Filthpigthankies :)02:51
thoreauputic:)02:51
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koyo001hello02:52
canensi^: only used envy once but i think there is a bug where you have to press Alt+F1 to get rid of the black screen02:52
koyo001does anyone know the command to restart add remove program02:52
cysioHello , i installed kubuntu feisty, and my usb pendirve and extrenal harddisk doesn`t automatic monting (but with pmount working great) pls help02:52
si^canen: but look at logs... it does not find device :/ or something did u look into my logs? http://tinyurl.com/269fa202:53
adz21csi^: just a guess but the aticonfig-screen doesn't define any resolutions02:54
si^canen: it's not just black screen it simply kick me to console and does not start X1102:54
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si^adz21c: what does it mean? res is set to 1024x768x2402:54
canensi^: looking at the logs02:54
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cysiosorry , fat32 moutning great , but not nitfs-3g extrenal drive :(02:55
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adz21csi^: well the ending error says it has no useable configurations but there is a screen, so i take that as drivers ok but the configuration is bad, i would add "mode" to display under aticonfig-screen and put some valid resolutions02:56
adz21cjust to see what happens02:56
si^adz21c: do u mean here: Section "Screen"02:57
si^Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "02:57
adz21cyes02:57
adz21cun that is a sub section "display"02:57
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adz21cunder*02:57
si^aha add mode but when i'm kicked to console shouldn't it show fglrxinfo?02:57
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adz21ci don't know i never done ATI under linux, its just something I noticed in the xorg.conf and the error complained of config so its a guess :-)02:58
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si^adz21c: this is horror ;) ok give me a minute i'll try with mode02:58
BluesKajHowdy All :)02:58
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BluesKajafter booting into feisty, it boots to a prompt which tells me that apt isn't installed and this is the the funny part, quote "use apt-get install apt" to install apt because it's missing from your sytem .. I typed "exit" to get back to the boot menu but it then boots directly to the login page, and everything is normal ..strange behaviour . Any ideas how to fix it ?03:03
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snaphi all03:04
snapNE1 care to help a noob03:04
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BluesKajsnap, just ask , ppl will help if they can03:05
ForgeAuhey all :)03:05
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adz21cBluesKaj: you tried installing the apt debs?03:06
snapok blues but my questions are so basic i dont want to frustrate people03:06
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adz21csnap just ask anyway no one cares if they are complex or basic we are just ere to help ... or be helped :P03:06
Filthpigwhere can I go to get help with baghira mac os x skin?03:06
BluesKajadz21c, universe multivrese ?03:06
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BluesKajmultiverse03:07
si^adz21c: canen: still same problem, i added: Modes    "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"03:07
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snaplike how the heck can i log as root .....ubuntu using this darn keyring thing.....never had an option to setup root03:07
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adz21csnap: u have to setup a root password, but its not recommended you do so03:08
canensi^: does X work with the vesa drivers or the generic ati drivers?03:08
snapim trying to install winetools and the tarball method wants me to login as root03:08
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adz21cuse sudo03:09
si^now i'm @ ati driver and it's ok03:09
si^all works ok just i don't have acceleration/tvout at default drivers03:09
adz21csnap: 'sudo [command] ' allows you to run the commands03:09
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BluesKajadz21c, the thing is after I exit, everything is normal...it's an annoyance more than anything ...apt is installed btw03:09
adz21csnap: but for a gui then u want kdesu instead of sudo03:09
AurriusWhats are the right firefox Version under the adept manager?03:09
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adz21cBluesKaj: ah ok, well thats odd ... did u upgrade or do a fresh install?03:10
BluesKajupgraded03:10
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si^canen: now i'm at this one: Driver          "ati"       and it's ok just without TVOUT/3D ACCELERATION03:11
adz21cBluesKaj: you tried reinstalling the apt package(s)?03:11
snap> /Desktop$ sudo alien winetools-0.9-3jo.i386.rpm > Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package winetools: postinst prerm > Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.03:11
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snapthat what iui got trying to convert rpm to deb03:11
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adz21cis there not a winetools deb?03:12
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snapno they just have Tar and RPM files to d/l03:12
canensi^: don't know what to tell you off the top of my head, sorry. my x config is usually very simple03:12
adz21csnap: i mean in the repositories03:12
si^canen: maybe u can show me yours?03:12
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snaphttp://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/index.html#download03:13
adz21csnap: try 'sudo apt-get install winetools'03:13
snapi couldnt find it listed in package manager03:13
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canensi^: don't have ati at home. gimme a minute or two03:14
snapok i'll give that a whirl03:14
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si^adz21c: any idea? no change with Modes added to aticonfig-screen, still X11 not running03:14
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adz21csi^: i try asking a friend if he ever came across the issue as he has done ati under linux, hold on i see if he is online03:14
si^adz21c: maybe i have to unplug TVOUT cable?03:15
cathaljust upgrade today, my wireless no longer will enable in configuration, it enables for a split second and is disabled again. Any ideas? do i have to install the drivers again?03:15
si^adz21c: this is hell on earth :) ok thnx i'll wait03:15
adz21csi^: ok he's not lol and maybe, i really couldn't say i always been nvidia03:15
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snapadz21c:03:16
snapReading package lists... Done03:16
snapBuilding dependency tree03:16
snapReading state information... Done03:16
snapE: Couldn't find package winetools03:16
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adz21csnap: 1 moment i am looking :-)03:16
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snapthanks for being so helpful i fully expected to get flame toasted03:17
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nixternal!info winetools feisty03:17
ubotuPackage winetools does not exist in feisty03:17
nixternalthere are no winetools, at least in feisty03:17
nixternal!info winetools edgy03:17
ubotuPackage winetools does not exist in edgy03:18
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snapdarn .....i have to get them in there to get Metarder 4 working03:18
canensi^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17040/03:18
adz21csnap: only thing i can think of is automatix03:19
snapwassat then?03:19
adz21cit set up various things for u that by default ubuntu doesn't03:19
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adz21cwww.getautomatix.com03:19
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flaccid!automatix03:20
ubotuAutomatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:20
adz21calthough if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need03:20
nixternalsnap: let me be the word of warning...never mind, thanks flaccid03:20
adz21cyea, automatix isn't the best thing in the world, but thats all i can think of03:21
flaccidhuh03:21
adz21capart from "although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need"03:21
nixternalyou beat me to the "automatix sux" warning03:21
flaccidso?03:21
nixternalI forgot about the !bang for it though03:21
nixternalno no, I was being thankful you did that03:21
flacciddoesnt matter03:21
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snapwow i love the auto install d/l link there that was easy03:22
nixternaloh nice, they turned that on before final I guess03:23
adz21csnap:what the system settings thing?03:23
nixternallast time I tried it didn't do anything but tell me I didn't have wine installed03:23
snapadz21c: the automatix03:24
adz21coh ok03:24
snapso I might be able to use this ti get winetools on correct?03:24
adz21csnap: like nixternal said it can be quite dodgey in places03:25
adz21csnap: if it has wine stuff in there, but you tried the system settings thing i mentioned earlier first? if your running feisty of course03:25
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snapi think i missed the system settings thing03:26
adz21csnap:  "although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need"03:26
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kblogi upgraded to feisty yesterday. but now, it's irritating me wether i should use compiz or beryl...?03:27
araduFor what reason did Ubuntu use Gnome instead of KDE? Any particular reasons?03:27
snapok ill try that before i break this install with automatix03:27
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kblogaradu: this is just a question about taste.03:27
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flaccidand licensing03:28
danny500hey guys and gurls :d03:28
danny500:D03:28
danny500sup flaccid03:28
adz21ckblog: i personally chose beryl just because I liked the beryl manager and on my 5 mins look over the compiz kde gui i wasn't impressed03:28
danny500ok I'm havin's a little problem with MPlayer03:28
adz21ckblog: but so post everwhere i read say compiz is more stable than beryl, its less of a hack job03:28
kblogaradu: kde and gnome have both their advantages and disadvantages like every other windowmanager too. i think that both window manager are about equal.03:29
danny500when I tell it to go into fullscreen mode the movie stays the same size and the window area gets bigger03:29
zerak!package03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:29
snapi installed beryl but still running the gnome till i get a little further along03:29
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pollyoHello03:30
aradukblog: I see. I agree, both have their advantages. I was just curious why they chose to use one of them.03:30
danny500yo pollyo :D03:30
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danny500hey pollyo03:30
danny500you know anything about MPlayer?03:30
pollyoAnyone use evolution for e-mail with some type of virus scanner?03:30
danny500i do03:30
adz21cdanny500: what problems you having?03:30
pollyodanny500: Not anything specifically.03:30
pollyodanny500: Are you using klammail?03:31
danny500MPlayer going into fullscreen, the windows gett's bigger but the movie stay's the same size03:31
danny500no03:31
pollyodanny500: I find it slow.  Takes 15 minutes to download 5 messages using klammail with evolution.03:31
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danny500my viruse program is aegis03:31
adz21cdanny500: you using cli mplayer or a gui frontend?03:31
kblogaradu: i just feel the way kde is made fits my needs more but im using gnome-apps too, tough.03:31
zerakwhat is the command prompt to install a package from a file ex. ~/file.deb ?03:31
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pollyodanny500: Will that work with evolution and scan messages when you download them?03:31
danny500I use the gui MPlayer03:31
danny500I guess so03:32
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adz21czerak i think its dpkg --install file.deb03:32
boubbinhow to enable dualmonitor support, i have two different mopnitors ?03:32
zerakthank you03:32
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danny500it's been over 3 months since I've actually used evolution but I'll set it up again and tell you ok03:32
adz21czerak: look at man dpkg if that doesn't work03:32
aradukblog: Yeah. I like the way KDE is made more too, especially the object oriented base with C++, and Qt. To me, KDE would be the obvious choice.03:32
boubbin!dualmonitor03:32
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama03:32
pollyodanny500: Ok.  Let me know when you get a chance.  Thank you.03:33
boubbin!xinerama03:33
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead03:33
kblogaradu: fine. choose kde then but if you like to, you could install both to try both.03:33
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aradukblog: I have used both and I'm a KDE user. I was just curious why Ubuntu chose Gnome in the first place. ;)03:33
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danny500your using evolution mail reader right pollyo?03:34
pollyodanny500: Yes. I use evolution.03:34
danny500ok one minute please03:34
kblogaradu: ah, that's a question that never has been answered properly.03:34
pollyodanny500:  I have it setup to pipe mail out to klammail to scan incoming messages for virus information.03:34
aradualright03:34
pollyoQuite a few distubutions make use of the gnome desktop by default.  An article I read suggested it was more of a clean business type desktop.03:35
kblogaradu: mark shuttleworth choosed gnome but i guess that it was a merely a choice by accident or something like that.03:35
aradupollyo: Yeah, I've noticed. But the fact that (imo) Qt is much neater to develop for and big companies choose to release apps in Qt (GoogleEarth and Opera?) would make KDE a more pouplar choice.03:36
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aradukblog: Ok, well it's great that the kubuntu project is running03:37
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kblogaradu: well, you can't say it so. you could also give the argument that just that gnome's idea is quite different from that of MS windows, it would be better and easier for branding. but in the end, i think it is probably a choose because we are used to an gui like this.03:38
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danny500pollyo, where do I find the viruse program setup in evolution again?03:39
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pollyodanny500: As a filter.03:39
iraaradu just install kde03:39
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araduTrue, and Gnome can seem to be easier to use. I guess those are some of the reasons to ouse Gnome instead.03:39
danny500oh ok03:39
araduira: Uhm, I already use KDE.03:40
dthackerhello kubuntu'ers, how are the feisty installs going?03:40
kblogI think it's really a choice of what you prefer. i used to use fluxbox for a longer time but since it is easier to update, maintain etc. with kde rather than with fluxbox, i decided to change to kde. in other words, i was just too lazy ;)03:40
iraor use kubuntu03:40
pollyodanny500: You filter a message through a pipe to klammail and check the header for virus-found.  If it has the header then you put it in a folder for virus messages.03:40
irawhy does my upgrade wizzard not load?03:40
danny500are you using linux?03:40
araduira: I wasn't looking for a DE, I was just trying to find out why Ubuntu chose Gnome in the first place.03:41
pollyodanny500: Is who using linux?03:41
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danny500you03:41
irait asks if i want to update03:41
danny500are you using linux?03:41
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pollyodanny500: Yes.03:41
kblogdanny500: to who are you talking to?03:41
danny500then why are you worrying about viruses?03:41
danny500Pollyo: then why are you worrying about viruses?03:42
pollyodanny500: The spread of viruses to my friends and family is my concern.03:42
irawear a mask indoors03:42
danny500well don't they have viruse progs?03:42
dthackerdanny500: we don't want to be carriers03:42
pollyodanny500: If I get a message that has a virus in it I do not want to unknowingly spread it to them.03:42
danny500pollyo: oh ok03:42
LeFermionhow does change font color in kde panel?03:42
danny500pollyo: I see03:42
compilerwriterpollyo I use KlamAv for that very same purpose.03:43
BluesKajpollyo, this isn't windows03:43
BluesKaj!virus03:43
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:43
pollyocompilerwriter: I use clamav and I have klammail setup for evolution it just seems so slow. (klammail)03:43
pollyoBluesKaj: I am not suggesting it is windows.03:43
kblogdanny500: actually, im more and more getting worried about viruses although im using linux. i think that viruses are becoming a more and more danger angainst linux too because the spread of linux has extremly widen.03:43
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compilerwriterMy Klammail seems to working quite fine.03:44
BluesKajread the blurb, pollyo03:44
pollyoBluesKaj: Just because the viruses may not take hold on my system does not mean that I should not take steps not to resend them to my friends and family as attachments.  In addition there does exist the possibility if I run an application in wine that a virus could take hold on my system.03:44
compilerwriterkblog Then there is the potential for dumb new linux user exploits as well.  The time for that is really ripe.03:45
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dthackerBluesKaj: I use linux to protect my wife's window's office computers03:45
BluesKajdon'tr send attachments03:45
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kblogcompilerwriter: i think so, too.03:46
pyr0hi all, i just finished installing kubuntu feisty but i have a problem. before i installed i had to set the resolution for the installer via the logon screen (before i pressed install\run kubuntu) so my screen will work, otherwise the screen just closed the moment it started the x server. after installing, i have the same problem again, but this time i don't have a place to cange the...03:46
pyr0...resolution. so, how do i force a 1280x1024 resolution to kubuntu 7.04?03:46
pollyoBluesKaj: Rather simplistic response.03:46
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BluesKajsimplistic works03:46
pollyoBluesKaj: Especially when there are virus scanners that will handle most known windows viruses.03:46
_4strOpyr0: is it proposed in system settings ?03:46
kblogyou also can see that the amount of viruses that are running on linux, has grown. there is no match with windows yet, of course. but we have to keep in mind that.03:46
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pyr0_4strO: say that again?03:47
dthackerkblog: yes, we should not get complacent03:47
pollyokblog: Where do you have information on viruses for linux?03:47
_4strOpyr0: go to K / system setting / mon,ito & display03:47
kblogjust read ;)03:47
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danny500total number of linux viruses, 4 lol03:47
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pollyokblog: Most things I have read dismiss the idea of linux viruses.  Though they do admit to some nasty programs and trojans.03:48
danny500total number of Windows viruses 8958934793245621629541892243567519745942545903:48
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pyr0_4strO: i can't. the moment kubuntu starts, the screen turns black and shuts down. the way i fixed this with the livecd was to force the right resolution.03:48
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nirmalyou install rkhunter03:48
danny500I mean 3695864355893648964328956432565876487658639538765E5545325353253^439654303:48
danny500lol03:48
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ForzaPalermohey guys, i cant run the distribution upgrade utulity in kubuntu... it keeps telling me to free up space in the /boot directory.... but there is nothing that i can delete from there that i dont need... any suggestions?03:49
kblogdanny500: thats right but stll its growing. but there are not only 4 viruses any more. there are some hundred, especially if you count these for apache too.03:49
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pollyopyr0: Have you tried to just switch to a text terminal after the screen goes black and log into a shell?03:49
_4strOpyr0: are you on the liveCD ?03:49
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BluesKajpollyo, yeah , I use AVG on the windows partition and wife's windows pc...the fact we all take precautions in windows is a given .03:50
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pyr0_4strO: no i haven't. and i'm not in the livecd, should i log in?03:50
pollyopyr0: I think it is CTRL-1 or ALT-CTRL-1 to get to the text shell.03:50
pyr0pollyo: ok, and what next? if i get into shell...03:50
_4strOpyr0: sorry but i dont understand, where are you now ?03:50
si^adz21c: canen: i tried to unplug TVOUT cable and it helped. but when KDE loaded at the end all hanged an i was able only to move around mouse [ not possible to run anything ] 03:50
pyr0_4strO: i'm in windows :)03:50
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ForzaPalermoanyone?03:50
danny500pollyo: it will work but I haven't found the way you want to do it, I just had evolution send the messages to a folder then I have Aegis scan the folder03:51
pollyoBluesKaj: I also have the virus scanner in linux check my ntfs at times for viruses.03:51
_4strOpyr0: lol now i understand :p03:51
danny500that good?03:51
pyr0_4strO: i finished the install yesterday. i must say that on kubuntu 6.10 it didn't happen03:51
pollyopyr0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:51
pollyois that correct anyone?03:51
pollyois it xserver-xorg03:51
_4strOpyr0: boot on the liveCD  and come back here (highlight me)03:51
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pyr0_4strO: alright. thank you both!03:52
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Ace2016Hi all03:52
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BluesKajhi Ace201603:52
Ace2016anyone get Corel Photo-Paint to work in ubuntu?03:53
danny500it will work but I haven't found the way you want to do it, I just had evolution send the messages to a folder then I have Aegis scan the folder > pollyo03:53
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Ace2016http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=10403:53
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danny500hi > danny50003:53
danny500danny500 > hi03:54
danny500hum03:54
feldegasthi03:54
danny500hi03:54
danny500#mplayer03:54
=== Ace2016 just wants a image editor like gimp which uses ONE, gimp is a pita, i have to keep moving windows when trying to use it
danny500HAHAHAHAHA they actually have a channel for that YES03:54
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snapadz21c: where can i find the systemm settings?03:55
danny500Ace201603:55
Ace2016yea?03:55
danny500whats your problem?03:55
danny500with gimp03:55
Ace2016too many windows03:56
danny500you can fix that eh03:56
Ace2016its too hard to work with, i have to keep alt+tabbing all the time03:56
Ace2016danny500: how?03:56
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danny500Ace2016: you can have all the tools stuck into one window as far as I know03:56
pyrooohi i'm back03:56
pyroooin the livecd03:56
_4strOpyrooo: ok03:57
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_4strOpyrooo: sudo fdisk -l | grep Linux03:57
danny500Ace2016: hold on I'm opening Gimp and seeing how to do it again03:57
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_4strOpyrooo: (in a terminal)03:57
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pyrooo4strO:yeah i know :)03:57
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pyroooalright i know the drives already03:58
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_4strOpyrooo: sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sd* /temp -t ext303:58
_4strOpyrooo: replace he * by your03:59
_4strO+s03:59
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_4strOpyrooo: ok ?03:59
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pyrooojust did that. it says the mount point /temp does not exist03:59
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_4strOpyrooo: you did : sudo mkdir temp ?04:00
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pyrooo"sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /temp -t ext3"04:00
pyrooosda3 is my linux ext3 drive04:00
_4strOlol sorry04:01
pyrooosorry...?04:01
_4strOpyrooo: sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sd3 temp -t ext304:01
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_4strOmmm04:01
pyrooocannot create directory `temp': File exists04:01
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pyroooso i'll call it temp3?04:02
_4strOnop04:02
_4strOls04:02
pyroools?04:02
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_4strOhave you a dir named temp ?04:02
pyroooyep04:02
pyroooso how do i delete it? how do i use the ls command?04:02
_4strOrm -f tep04:03
_4strOrm -f temp04:03
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pyrooocannot create directory `temp': File exists04:03
pyrooo cannot remove `temp': Is a directory04:03
kinder112does it work?04:03
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danny500Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows04:03
pyroooit says it's a dir. so it can't delete it04:03
Impaquepyrooo: rm -rf temp04:03
_4strOyes04:04
Impaquepyrooo: add -r04:04
danny500Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows04:04
pollyoWhy remove the temp directory anyway?  Can't you just mount it to a different directory?04:05
danny500Ace2016: you there?04:05
pollyo/temp/Linuxpartion04:05
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pollyoMakes no sense to just start removing directories.04:05
pyrooook its deleting04:06
Ace2016danny500: yea i'm here04:06
pyrooook its ok.04:06
pyrooonow what?04:06
danny500Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows04:06
Ace2016danny500: how? screenshot?04:07
_4strOpyrooo: sudo mkdir linuxpart && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /linuxpart -t ext304:07
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danny500ok when you look at the tool bars you can click and drag them onto another window and then let go and they will merge04:07
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_4strOif it didn't want, do : sudo mkdir linuxpart && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /linuxpart04:07
pyroooworked04:08
_4strOok04:08
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Ace2016danny500: then what?04:08
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_4strOnow : sudo cp /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak04:08
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_4strOand : kdesu kate /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf04:09
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pyrooook04:09
pyrooonow what?04:09
danny500Ace2016: drag and drop the tool areas onto the main tool selection window on the bottum it will tab all the tools04:09
danny500then you will end up with two windows, the tool window and the work area04:10
_4strOpyrooo: go to the Section "Screen"04:10
danny500Ace2016: still want a screen shoot?04:10
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_4strOhere is the resolution proposedModes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"04:10
Ace2016danny500: nope it worked but i still want one big window for all the gimp stuff to be in though04:10
orienthello04:11
Ace2016hi04:11
_4strOpyrooo: the first is the default one04:11
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danny500ok hold no04:11
danny500on*04:11
_4strOyou have to modifiy all the lines with resolution04:11
_4strOpyrooo: did you understand what i mean ?04:11
orientstupid question: how do I set KDE to require double-click for opening an item (program/folder) ?04:11
pyroooyes. i did that before, i deleted all the other resolutions and just kept 1280x102404:12
pyrooodidnt' work04:12
orientI did it once for edgy, but I forgot04:12
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_4strOpyrooo: can you past your file ?04:12
_4strO!paste | pyrooo04:12
pollyo!pastebin04:12
pyrooopaste?04:12
ubotupyrooo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:12
pyroooyeah04:12
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aleksanterihow can i install a kbfx theme?04:13
pyrooohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17052/plain/04:14
Ace2016aleksanteri: have you installed kbfx?04:14
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boubbin!dualhead04:14
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:14
aleksanteriuhm... no. i thought it came built-in :P04:14
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aleksanteri!kbfx04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
aleksanteridarn it04:14
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pyrooo_4strO: do you see it?04:14
aleksanteriok, downloaded it04:15
pollyopyrooo: What type of video card do you have installed?04:15
_4strOpyrooo: yes04:15
pyroooradeon x800 oro04:15
pyrooopro*04:15
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orienthow do I set KDE to require double-click for opening an item (program/folder) ?04:15
boubbin!xinerama04:15
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:15
pollyopyrooo: Is that ATI or Nvidia?04:16
pyroooATI04:16
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Ace2016orient: its in the mouse options in kcontrol04:16
aleksanterinow how do i install a kbfx theme? :P04:16
salaahi really need help with my nvdia display04:16
Ace2016aleksanteri: have you installed kbfx?04:16
orientthank you04:16
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aleksanteriAce2016: just did04:16
salaahits showing a resolution of 640x48004:17
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Ace2016aleksanteri: what version?04:17
lupuldoes anyone know a command to flush the cache?04:17
lupulon feity04:17
aleksanteriAce2016: 0.4.9.104:17
salaahim downloading a driver from nvidia right now...04:17
pyrooo_4strO? pollyo?04:17
lupul!flush04:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:17
lupul!cache04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
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salaahcan someone help me install it04:18
_4strOpyrooo: just a sec ;)04:18
pyrooook 10x :)04:18
Ace2016then look in the menu > settings > kbfx configurator04:18
Naradahi guys; what gui would you recommend to install packages in kubuntu feisty; i mean if i don't want to use apt-get on command line04:18
aleksanteriNarada: synaptic04:18
snap<adz21c> although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need     Can someone point me to wwhere i can find this?04:18
pollyosalaah: Isn't the driver in the repositories?04:18
aleksanteriNarada: use apt on that :P04:19
Ace2016Narada: synaptic, its the best04:19
danny500Ace2016: you can only get down to 2 windows why do you want one window so badly?04:19
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boubbin!twinview04:19
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead04:19
Naradaaleksanteri: hehe; is that like gui in kde or gui in command line?04:19
aleksanteriiirc it's a gui04:20
aleksanteridarn it g2g04:20
Ace2016danny500: i work with lots of images at once, i only close them when i've finished with all of them, i'm making an icon set, and my task bar is full of just gimp stuff, and then it soon gets into one long annoying menu04:20
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_4strOpyrooo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17054/04:20
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pescezhi everyone04:21
_4strOpyrooo: its the file with some corrections04:21
pyrooo_4strO: i'm gonna try that!04:21
pyrooothanks!04:21
pescezdo you know how to setup boot position on the screen for cairo-clock at startup?04:21
iraso why wont my upgrade wizzard load?04:21
Ace2016_4strO: should get rid of the wacom stuff while your at it04:22
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_4strOpyrooo: then come back even if it'sok04:22
iraaskes me if i want to upgrade I say yes a bunch of time04:22
danny500Ace2016: well the way I told you you will only have a tool windows and the work area, are you wanting to have all the work areas in on window?04:22
NaradaAce2016: how does synaptic compare with adept package manager? you use that as well?04:22
salaahpollyo: i tried the driver in the repository, its not working04:22
pyrooook. thanks!04:22
_4strOAce2016: if it's not needed yes but we never know ;)04:22
iratells me it is about to close adapt and then nuttin04:22
pescezdid somebody read my question? :P04:23
iraI did I have no answer04:24
_4strOpescez: yes but dont know what is cairo-clock ;)04:24
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pescezeheh04:24
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_4strOpescez: but look in your home in a hidden file04:24
springballmaybe you neeed to be in cairo?04:24
pescez_4strO, it's a funny composite clock04:24
springballcan any one tell me why I can update?04:25
springballcan't04:25
_4strOspringball: what's exacty the pb ?04:25
_4strO+l04:25
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springballIt asked me if I want to load the upgrade wizzard04:26
springballI say yes04:26
springballdo all the questions04:26
pescezwhat a stupid issue... there's a .cairo-clockrc in home and first two arguments are x=-1 y=-1 .. columbus egg..04:26
pescezthank you _4strO04:26
_4strO;)04:26
springballsaid it will close adapt and run04:26
springballbut it dosent close adapt or run04:26
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danny500how do I open my nvidia settings?04:27
Ace2016Narada: take a look, this is adept: http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adeptfq8.png   and this is synaptic: http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=synapticno6.png04:27
pesceznvidia-settings04:27
_4strOspringball: ps -A | grep adept04:28
danny500yeah, how do I open it?04:28
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springballany idea04:28
springball 5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier04:28
springball 6646 ?        00:00:07 adept_updater04:28
danny500nevermind04:29
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Ace2016Narada: synaptic has better options, you can for example look at packages from just one repo, look at the just the updateable ones, and select certain ones to update, and its got a better search04:29
_4strOspringball: and in your adept window nothing is moving ?04:29
springballadept nope04:29
_4strOdid you try to close it ?04:29
pescezsynaptics rocks against adept04:29
springballnow i did same04:29
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_4strOsame ?04:30
springball 5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier04:30
_4strOspringball: start adept04:30
springballok04:30
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Ace2016springball: thats the adept updater that sits in your system tray and tells you about updated stuff04:31
NaradaAce2016: wow thanks for the images; k i'll try synaptic04:31
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springballrestarted adap04:31
springballt04:32
bobesponjahey04:32
Ace2016hey04:32
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springballt04:32
springball5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier04:32
springball 6850 ?        00:00:03 adept_manager04:32
_4strOspringball: have you a new button or something new in adept ?04:32
springballnot that i can see04:33
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Ace2016springball: whats worng?04:33
bobesponjaI can't click with mouse wheel after feisty upgrade04:33
springballupdate wizzard not working04:33
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Ace2016bobesponja: you broke your mouse?04:33
bobesponjaI can't use the middle click to open tabs or pasting text04:33
bobesponjaAce2016: it used to work with edgy but all of a sudden it doesn't04:33
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bobesponjaAce2016: I can scroll though04:33
Ace2016springball:04:33
_4strOspringball: what is update wizzard ?04:34
springballnw i get the update wizzard notica again04:34
Ace2016bobesponja: run konsole, and then the command xev, then middle click in the square04:34
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_4strOspringball: close adept04:34
springball"A new version of Kubuntu is avalable!04:34
_4strOspringball:04:34
_4strOand then04:34
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_4strOwhats hap04:34
_4strOyou can do the upgrade ?04:35
springballno thats the issue04:35
bobesponjaAce2016: i did04:35
Daisuke_Idowizzard, spelled with two z's.  i think the update utility should have been called rincewind04:35
springball;-)04:35
Ace2016bobesponja: does it show the click?04:35
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springballmy point04:35
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bobesponjaAce2016: no it doesn't show the click04:35
springballwhen I close the adapt04:36
springballnuttin04:36
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Ace2016bobesponja: try again with this command, its easier to see:   xev |grep button04:36
springballDaisuke? you think maybe I need Vines?04:36
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_4strOspringball: which version of kubuntu have ypi ?04:36
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_4strOyou ?04:36
Ace2016bobesponja: does it show mouse button 2 when you middle click? and do the other buttons show?04:36
springball6.1004:37
_4strO!fesity04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
Daisuke_Idospringball: i would actually go with nobby first04:37
_4strO!feisty04:37
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php04:37
franzwhat is the name of the application that manages the KDE toolbar ?04:37
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Ace2016franz: what toolbar?04:38
patrick_I have a problem about the keyboard input when using the firefox....sometime the keyboard was halted !!!04:38
franzthe bottom bar04:38
springballubotu nice if it worked04:38
franzwith menu and programs04:38
Ace2016patrick_: i've also had mouse and keyboard problems with feisty sometimes keys get stuck down for some reason and i had to modify xorg.conf to get the mouse buttons to work04:39
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Ace2016franz: you mean kmenu? the one that comes up when you press Alt+F1?04:39
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bobesponjaAce2016: the other buttons show, but not the middle one04:40
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franzthat one , thank  you Ace201604:40
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patrick_Ace2016....I have the keyboard problem...but I can use the keyboard to log-in before starting the x windw04:40
Ace2016bobesponja: run kdesu kwrite, then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:40
bobesponjaAce2016: it does show when I scroll though04:40
_4strOAce2016: kate is better :p04:40
Ace2016_4strO: but we're only opening one file04:41
bobesponjaAce2016: ok it open04:41
Ace2016bobesponja: in the mouse section what is Option "Device"  and  Option  "Protocol" set to?04:42
_4strOAce2016: never mind kate is powerfull :p04:42
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bobesponjaAce2016: Option"Device""/dev/input/mice"04:42
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bobesponjaAce2016: Option"Protocol""ImPS/2"04:42
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matrixhi, is there a way to define the mount point where my usb disks are connected? best would of course be a graphical guided one.04:43
bobesponjaAce2016: I did try PS/2 and ExplorerPS/2 but it didn't help04:43
Ace2016bobesponja: i had problems with those settings, comment them out and  try  Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"  and      Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"04:43
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Ace2016it might be /dev/psaux, that might solve it04:43
Ace2016franz: you can use kmenuedit to edit it04:44
bobesponjaAce2016: ok, let me try04:44
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boubbinhow to set the bandwidth rate for a single application for example Adept ?04:45
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springballok give up on the update fo4r now04:45
Ace2016franz: you could also just use Alt+F2 and then type in the app you want to run, its a much faster way, like alt+f2 and then type konversation, or ~ which opens the file browser at your home dir04:45
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_4strO!feisty | springball04:46
ubotuspringball: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php04:46
springballdoesnt work04:46
springballthats my point04:46
springballbut a nice link!04:46
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_4strOspringball:  kdesktop -v04:47
_4strOversion ?04:47
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springballQt: 3.3.604:47
springballKDE: 3.5.604:47
springballKDesktop: 3.5.604:47
bobesponjaAce2016: nope, still not working :/04:47
ronnyhi04:47
Ace2016hi04:47
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_4strOspringball: have you put http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main on your sources.list ?04:48
pyrooohi again all04:48
pyrooostill doesn't work :|04:48
springballyes04:48
_4strOpyrooo: mmm04:48
pyrooo_4stro: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7568;sa=showPosts04:48
si^is this possible that fglrx has conflict with ALSA [hanging even with unplugged SoundBlaster live!]  ? :/04:48
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Ace2016springball: so you've edited your sources.list with the updated repos?04:49
springballyes04:49
pyrooothe dude has the exact same specs as i do04:49
jovanare the nvidia drivers in ubuntu repo different from the original nvidia installer?04:49
Ace2016springball: do you have synaptic installed?04:49
Ace2016springball: you could just get it to do the update04:49
bobesponjaAce2016: any idea what's wrong with my middle click?04:50
springballyes04:50
Naradahmm synaptic is quite nice04:50
_4strOpyrooo: i will googling a little :p04:50
springballok ace how so04:50
pyrooo_4strO: omg! thats me 2 years ago!! huh04:50
pyroooomfg!! he he he :D04:50
Ace2016bobesponja: could be the mouse itself or could be the new xorg version or the config, have you tried another mouse? like a usb one or a ps2 one if your using a usb one now?04:51
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Ace2016springball: well run kdesu synaptic and click mark all upgrades04:51
bobesponjaAce2016: I'm using a usb now04:51
_4strOpyrooo: your on the liveCD right ?04:51
springballok will try thanks04:51
kblogis it possible to get remote control on a win xp client from a linux client? i do have some support for mi sis...04:51
bobesponjaAce2016: I only have one mouse :/04:52
pyroooye04:52
pyroooyep04:52
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_4strOkblog: putty04:52
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_4strO!ssh | kblog04:53
ubotukblog: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:53
kblog_4strO: putty is a name of a such software, i guess?04:53
_4strO;)04:53
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kblogok, ill read about it. thanks.04:53
pyroooi'm on the liveCD04:53
jamesb_Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release Unable to find expected entry  dosbox/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)04:54
jamesb_how do I upgrade to feisty without dosbox getting in the way?!04:54
ayjahey peopls! howto optimize kubuntu? it's so memory-hungry :\04:54
jamesb_"skip and continue" doesn't seem to be an option - sigh04:54
pyrooowhat should i do?04:55
Ace2016kblog: you could try this, its a bit outdated, but the method hasn't changed much http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/VNC.html04:55
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Ace2016pyrooo: whats wrong?04:55
sylvisjhow would I go about setting up aiglx with kubuntu?04:55
pyroooAce2016: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6825.msg27126#msg2712604:55
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Ace2016pyrooo: seems like a refresh rate and screen resolution problem04:57
doubleshehello04:57
doublesheeveryone04:57
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pyroooace2016: the screen resolution, maybe the refresh rate. how do i fix it?04:57
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Ace2016pyrooo: you could have a look at the refresh rate and resolution the live cd is running and just copy that info over to your install04:58
pyrooohow do i do that?04:58
facugaichHi, I can't access any website or connect to msn. Only thing I can connect to is IRC so far04:58
Ace2016facugaich: my guess is dns04:58
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Ace2016facugaich: try ping google.com04:59
pyroooace2016: how do i do what you just said?04:59
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_4strOpyrooo: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:59
facugaichAce2016: PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.04:59
Ace2016pyrooo: well the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf of the live cd and mount the root partition of your install like _4strO said before and compare it to that one04:59
Ace2016facugaich: dns looks ok05:00
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AurriHello, I've tried to get a w-lan connection under kubuntu but the config manager always loads until 28% and stops. the card is detected automatically by my system05:00
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facugaichAce2016: any other ideas?05:01
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Udi.05:01
Ace2016facugaich: you tried going to the site in firefox? and konqueror?05:01
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facugaichAce2016: Konqueror only05:02
Ace2016facugaich: and did the pings return?05:02
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pyroooPC shutdown :| can anyone help me?05:04
aleksanteriback05:04
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Ace2016pyrooo: what do you mean pc shutdown?05:04
facugaichAce2016: I'm not sure what do you mean05:04
aleksanteriok... how do i install a kbfx theme?05:04
pyrooopower failure. computer shutdown05:04
Ace2016facugaich: does it have lots of 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=123 ms#05:04
Ace2016does it show that as the output or something similar?05:05
facugaichAce2016: oh, yes, yes05:05
ubuntu_hi, I'm in live cd, have mounted one ntfs partition @ /mnt - need to mount another but cant create a new mount point folder?05:05
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Ace2016facugaich: so konqueror can't get to google.com?05:05
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pyrooook. Ace, can you please help me?05:06
facugaichAce2016: Nope, it says "can't connect to server" (or something like that my kubuntu is in Spanish). I can see the favicon though05:06
pyroooi managed to make the resolution and frequency's okey in the LIveCD05:06
pyrooohow do i do that on my install?05:06
Ace2016ubuntu_: what you do is go into /mnt/ and make a new dir, then mount it to /mnt/newdir not mount it to /mnt/, just make a new dir called /mnt2 and install it to there05:06
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acetoxyHm, KNetworkManager doesnt list any wireless networks05:07
Ace2016pyrooo: so now you know the correct settings?05:07
Ace2016pyrooo: open konsole05:07
pyroooyes05:07
ubuntu_but /mnt is currently my first mounted partiton?05:07
pyroooACE2016: i used the gui setup. from the "system settings"05:08
Ace2016ubuntu_: so? make another folder called /mnt2 and mount it there05:08
acetoxyAh, now it does05:08
ubuntu_thanks05:08
sylvisjhow would I add 915resolution to run at boot?05:08
acetoxyHad to switch to disconnected mode and then back to connected mode.05:08
MidMarkI've installed vsftp but which username are allowed to enter into?05:09
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pyroooAce: can you help me please?05:09
Ace2016ubuntu_: don't mount the same thing in 2 places, that could mess it up, just make mnt2 and mount the other partition you want there05:09
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Ace2016pyrooo: do mkdir /temp05:09
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sylvisjanyone?05:09
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pyrooodid it05:09
Ace2016pyrooo: then mount /dev/hd(whatever you picked last time as the partition you had as /) /temp05:09
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ubuntu_thanks, also, It seems I cant write to my ntfs, how do i?05:10
pyroooace: how do i know which one? i don't remember. i used a grep command, can you remind me which command it was?05:10
Ace2016ubuntu_: you cannot write to ntfs from linux, at least with the ubuntu cd, however knoppix may allow it, but it is dangerous and could mess up the partiton05:11
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Ace2016pyrooo: i'll look it up05:11
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red22i have kubuntu and just installed ubuntu-desktop. "startx" now boots gnome but i want kde.  how do i change that pls?05:12
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facugaichAce2016: I can also use the repositories. A misconfiguration maybe?05:12
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BluesKajred22, install kubuntu-desktop05:12
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Ace2016pyrooo: mount /dev/sda3 /temp -t ext3  thats should work05:13
red22kueskaj: it is already installed from before installing gnome05:13
Ace2016facugaich: not sure, could be something like ipv6 or something05:13
BluesKajred22, do you have KDE installed05:14
red22and it has too many customized settings i don't wish to lose.05:14
red22yes05:14
Ace2016pyrooo: worked?05:14
pyrooonope05:14
pyrooospecial device sda does not exist05:14
aleksanterihow do i install a kbfx theme?05:15
red22blueskaj: i'm in kde right now, but if i shutown x (like i have to sometimes) and then type "startx" it goes to gnome instead of kde05:15
MinceRi've managed to boot the damn thing. turns out it renamed /dev/hdc1 to /dev/sdb1 -- is this some kind of new fad i'm unaware of?05:15
pyrooook listen, i don't think it's gonna work.... i played enough. damn linux05:15
Ace2016pyroo run fdisk -l and put it in a pastebin05:15
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szyszejaholaaa05:16
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Ace2016MinceR: i think its a problem with the install disks, it thought my hda was sda and go itself totally messed up when i removed uuids from fstab,05:16
BluesKajsorry red22... dunno what to tell you ...uninstall gnome-desktop?05:16
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Ace2016pyrooo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:16
MinceRi didn't mess with uuids, i don't think they're a bad idea...05:16
MinceRit did kill the nvidia driver, i'm trying to reinstall it now.05:17
red22blueskaj: it's ok thnx for trying though.  i'm sure it has to do with that startx script in /usr/bin/startx, but i can't make sense of it05:17
BluesKajAce2016?. perhaps you could help red2205:18
feldegasttthhere  is a command to  ser kde as the default, wish i could remember it05:18
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feldegastcos i want to set it as well05:18
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MinceRnow x keeps segfaulting05:20
MinceRi really don't get how feisty is supposed to be stable now05:21
Ace2016red22: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager05:21
feldegastdoes anyone  see what is wrong with: splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/kubuntucustom.xpm.gz05:21
Ace2016oh wait he left :(05:21
Ace2016pyrooo: u there?05:21
facugaichAce2016: lol, it fixed itself05:21
Ace2016facugaich: thats great05:22
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Ace2016red22: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager05:22
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red22just got back, i keep killing my kde by mistake..hehe.  anyway to stop shift-backspace from killing kde pls?05:23
Ace2016red22: are you running xgl?05:23
kristjan_are "deb-src" lines needed at all?05:23
red22ace2016: yes05:23
red22not right now though bc i killed kde and startx now brings me up in gnome, where i am now05:24
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specialbuddyhas anyone had any issues controlling volume using Kmix?05:25
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BluesKajspecialbuddy, issues?05:25
Ace2016red22: run this: xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace'  however the changes may not stick after the restart so, run kwrite, set this as the first line: #!/bin/bashpaste then this as the second:  xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace'   then leave a third line empty, then save it in ~/.kde/Autostart/ and call it whatever you want, then make it executable05:25
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Ace2016red22: thats how i solved the problem05:26
specialbuddyI can't control my volume with it?05:26
magnusonred22: Option "DontZap"  "true"05:26
specialbuddyI guess that's not really a question :)05:26
iarwain_hi there, anyone know how to get FretsOnFire to run? (running Feisty, and fof complains about libpython2.4.so.1.0 not being found)05:26
Ace2016magnuson: thats different shift+backspace is a thing that happens with xgl, ctrl+alt+backspace is normal05:27
Hobbseeiarwain_: install python2.4?05:27
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iarwain_Hobbsee: but i have python2.5, wouldn't that be conflicting?05:27
Ace2016specialbuddy: open kmix, then try adjusting the pcm value, does that change the volume?05:27
Hobbseeiarwain_: not sure.  didnt think so...05:27
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iarwain_Hobbsee: trying atm =)05:28
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jussi01hmmm, can someone tell me how to back up my gpg key?05:28
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Hobbseejussi01: copy your .gnupg/ folder somewhere safe05:28
BluesKajspecialbuddy, type 'alsamixer' in the terminal ..see if you can control the vol from there05:28
jussi01Hobbsee: brilliant, thanks05:28
specialbuddypcm adjusts the sound but why can't I use the pc speaker one?05:28
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BluesKajpc speaker isn't your soundcard , specialbuddy05:29
iarwain_Hobbsee: i installed python, and fretsonfire complains about a 'not matching glx visual'05:29
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Ace2016specialbuddy: what pc speaker one, forget that, right click on the kmix icon > select master channel, then pick pcm, then it'll work05:29
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specialbuddythank you Ace2016 and BluesKaj05:30
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soulrider__!easysource05:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:30
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Raven301I'm trying to put 7.04 onto a western digital 15g hard drive put when I do the install it says it doesn't know what driver to use for the hard drive I went thru the whole list and nothing worked. When I have the beta version on it was ok. Any Ideas?05:32
snapis there any way to make the file browser show the path of a selected file?05:32
Raven301s/put/but05:32
peter_hello! where does that upgrade tool save packages? i was trying to upgrade, but after downloading the packages (only 1G..) it gave some errors, hope it didn't delete them05:32
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Ace2016snap: what do you mean selected file path? its in the address bar isn't it?05:33
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snapi dont see address bar thats what i want05:33
Ace2016snap: you want to hide the address bar in konqueror?05:33
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Tired_Ok.  I think I got Beryl working.  What keys do I press to blow my mind?05:33
red22ace2016: i'm gonna reboot into kde to try out your advice. be back in a bit. ty.05:33
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Ace2016red22: bye05:34
snapno i want to show the path to selected files in the file browser05:34
snapso i can copy paste them into terminal05:34
aroTired_: If it's really working, click on the desktop with both left and right mouse buttons at the same time05:34
aroTired_: Then move around05:34
red22ace2016: actually one more thing related to keyboard.. how do i enable my windows/menu key pls?05:34
Ace2016snap: forget that, just browse to the place and press F4 or F805:34
Tired_wow!05:34
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Tired_it's definitely working05:35
aroAlso alt+tab between several windows05:35
Tired_how to make the cube?05:35
peter_settings/toolbar/location or what?05:35
aroTired_: Right+left click on the desktop didn't activate the cube?05:35
snapnothing happened05:35
Tired_the instructions for feisty on wiki.beryl-project.org seem pretty idiot-proof, got it on the first try from there05:36
Ace2016red22: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_L' and xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Super_L' then the button is called super, so if your in the beryl menus use stuff like <Super>button1 for move and stuff>05:36
Tired_it made a cube with no faces05:36
peter_can someone help me? when i'll run the update again will it delete the packages, or are they already lost?05:36
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Ace2016red22: put them in the file you make in autostart05:36
snapgrrr frustrating05:37
goffihi05:37
BluesKajpeter_, running update doesn't delete pkges05:37
snapat one point i did have a file manager that had the path ....i have no idea where that went now05:37
Ace2016snap: whats frustrating?05:37
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Ace2016snap: upload a screenshot to somewhere like imageshack and use that to explain what you mean05:38
peter_but it already downloaded them, but ended with some error after that05:38
snapi need to install MT4 and I want to typw ~wine path/filename.exe05:38
snapbut i cant get terminal to the right directory05:38
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snapso i thought ill browes in the file manager and copy the path text and paste it into terminal05:39
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red22ace2016: isn't there a nice little gui app for handling this keyboard stuff/remapping?  i'm not gonna remember commands in a few days.  i'm gonna have to start keeping a journal.. :P05:39
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peter_upgrading ubuntu to version 6.10? wtf. i've probably something wrong05:40
Tired_how does one add a shortcut to their desktop for a program, like you would in Windows?05:41
red22snap: if you browse with konqueror you have the path in the address bar. if it's hidden you can activate it in prefs too.05:41
peter_create new>link to application ?05:41
Tired_then you have to know where it is...i'm used to just dragging things off the start menu to the desktop05:42
snapany tips on getting printscreen to work so i can upload a screen cap?05:42
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adaptrit works fine here05:42
adaptrshould be fully automatic05:43
Ace2016Tired_: so you want a link to an a program on your desktop?05:43
Tired_yep05:43
peter_tired_> r click and add item to desktop05:43
Tired_more than one05:43
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Tired_oh05:43
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misticdoes anyone here know how to choose which sound card I want to use ? I want kubuntu to use my usb-headset and not the other soundcard... how to say that to him ? XD05:43
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Ace2016Tired_: you do know you can just drag it, press alt+f1, find the thing, click, hold down, and it to the desktop, release and then select copy05:44
Tired_i'm always expecting things to be more difficult in linux...they really aren't.05:44
Tired_i do now  ;)05:44
boblenyI have VNC installed on a couple of my computers, but I don't know what the IP Address' are for them. I can check that computer, but it changes every time it reboots. Is there a way to check the IPs that are connected to my local network? All of the computers are on the same router.05:44
misticTired_: how to do that then ? plz :D:D:D05:44
red22tired_: right click the menu item and select add to desktop05:44
Tired_oh, sorry, mistic, i was speaking to someone else05:45
misticho u weren't spoken to me ^05:45
mistic:'(05:45
misticno problem...05:45
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peter_bobleny> use DNS05:45
Ace2016mistic: go into kcontrol05:45
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boblenyDomain Name Server?05:46
Ace2016mistic: then into sound and multimedia, then into sound system, then pick what you want05:46
Ace2016mistic: in the hardware tab05:46
mistic1 min05:46
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peter_if i understand it, you have DHCP and want always know, how to connect to some computer?05:47
dettoaltrimentiquestion: if I plug in a camera through usb, what will it be in /dev probably? is there any way to tell the most recently connected device on my computer?05:47
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dettoaltrimentianother question: I did something in Konsole where now I can't see what I type- how do I change it back?05:48
Ace2016dettoaltrimenti: it should pop up a window asking to mount or something, did it come up?05:48
red22ace2016: how can i get all my mouse buttons working (7 btns logitech mx510). i followed some guides modifiying my xorg.conf, but no luck.05:48
misticAce2016: I'm in, but in the hardware tab I can choose some things like Alsa, OSS etc... but there is no list about my sound cards here05:48
dettoaltrimentinope ace201605:48
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boblenypeter_: I need to know how to connect to the computers. What I don't know, is how to get the information to connect to the computers.05:49
dettoaltrimentianother question: image files are automatically opened by firefox. How do I change it so they automatically open in eog?05:49
jhutchinsdettoaltrimenti: You may need to change the scheema, you may just need to close the console and open a new one.  You can try entering the command 'reset'.05:49
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dettoaltrimentijhutchins- thanks, reset worked05:50
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Ace2016mistic: the only other thing i remember is to try kmix, i think that has a dropdown with the 2 cards in it05:50
snaphttp://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9853/screenshotbw4.png05:50
Traveler2i'm trying to use wubi to install kubuntu, and followed the instructions to do it, buy installing the alternative 7.04 in the same folder05:50
mistickmix... ok05:50
Traveler2but it still insists on downloading ordinary ubuntu :/05:50
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jhutchins!ssh | bobleny05:50
ubotubobleny: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:50
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misticAce2016: my cards are listed in Kmix, but how to choose one by default ? I cannot say that... :S05:50
Traveler2guide for wubi says it should take that one instead, but it refuses05:50
jhutchins!info wubi05:51
ubotuPackage wubi does not exist in feisty05:51
jhutchins!find wubi05:51
Traveler2it is the windows installer05:51
ubotuPackage/file wubi does not exist in feisty05:51
Traveler2so i don't need to repartition05:51
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peter_ubotu: he's connecting with VNC05:52
jhutchinsTraveler2: You're going to try to install it to a windows partition?05:52
peter_lol05:52
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Traveler2that's what wubi's meant to do05:52
peter_he's bott :\05:52
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jhutchinsTraveler2: Is it ntfs or vfat?05:52
Ace2016red22: did you ceck the forums, i just found this, it might help05:53
Traveler2ntfs, it just refuses to use the kubuntu iso i just downloaded05:53
dettoaltrimentiis there an irc channel for using gimp?05:53
Traveler2instead it goes and download ubuntu :/05:53
boblenypeter_: so, no ideas?05:53
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peter_if you have only small amount of computers, set fixed ips for them. but i think with dynamically assigned IPs is the DNS way to go. you then always connect to computer1 etc.05:53
mistic:'(05:54
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red22snap: just hit the button with the pad and pencil between the "back" and "places" buttons on top left05:54
red22snap: then you get the address bar you want05:54
red22got it?05:54
boblenypeter_: I don't know anything about that though... As far as I know, they need to have a server on them to have there own DNS....05:54
Ace2016mistic: as far as i know the one you pick in the list is the one thats used, i only saw it for about a day05:55
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Tired_wow.  this beryl stuff is worth the price of admission by itself05:55
red22ace2016: you didn't paste link.. " just found this, it might help..." ?05:55
misticAce2016: And I must restart the computer after having picked it in the list ?05:55
BluesKajpeter_, maybe some pkges are broken05:55
Ace2016red22: woops05:56
snapred thanks.....i used concorer its file exactly what i was looking for05:56
Ace2016red22: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59729&highlight=logitech+mouse+7+buttons05:56
snapbut i still cant get wine to install the file05:56
chi0does any one know a good ati guide for Feisty05:57
Ace2016red22: just search for: logitech mouse 7 buttons    or something similar in the forums, then pick one that relates to your mouse or comes closest to it05:57
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peter_BluesKaj: not, it's upgrading now, probably because adept was not closed and locked the db, but I think it should close automatically05:57
BluesKajchi0, what do you want to do ?05:57
boblenyIsn't there a way to  scan the router to find all the computers that are connected to it?05:57
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red22ace2016: ty i'll try doing my searches in the forums and not just yahoo or general search engine. seems more helpful.  thanks again.05:58
BluesKajok peter_ , good :)05:58
Ace2016chi0: pick one, from here and follow the steps to install the ati driver http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu05:58
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peter_bobleny: depends on settings05:58
chi0ok ty05:58
boblenypeter_: Which settings?05:58
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peter_bobleny: firewall etc. scan router from internal network, or from where? you can log into most routers from browser.05:59
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murphy78I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?06:00
red22snap: glad to help.06:00
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rjthey guys im tryuing to recompile my kernel and i am far enough that i have it and everything but it keeps telling me to name the file to patch06:00
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rjtany ideas?06:00
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neoncodeWhy doesn't Win+C Play/Pause amarok on Feisty?06:00
jhutchinsTraveler2: Write access to ntfs partitions isn't even supported in standard Linux, I think maybe you don't understand what you're doing.06:00
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murphy78I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?06:01
red22noencode: does the win key work at all just by itself? feisty seems to not enable it by default.06:01
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Ace2016neoncode: did you try to set it as a shortcut in amarok?06:02
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snowicehello, does anybody know which package I need to install for k3b to be able to burn mp3? BTW, this is on feisty.06:02
rjtcan someone help me compile a kernel?06:02
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neoncodered22: I can still stop or next track/previous track useing the Win key hotkeys. But Win+C doesn't do anything. Also when I right lick on the amarok systray icon it doesn't show a shortcut next to the play option. Yet it shows the other shortcuts.06:02
neoncode*click06:02
Ace2016snowice: libk3b2-mp306:03
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jhutchinsneoncode: The shortcut keys for amarok tend to change from release to release, distro to distro.  Look under the amarok configuration to see what's defined now.06:04
Whiz2what is the command to delete a directory06:04
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Whiz2?06:04
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snowiceace2016, that one is installed already, but I still get the error message on k3b startup about missing plugin, something about mad library06:04
boblenypeter_: How can I scan the router?06:04
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theringmasterwhen I shut down my kubuntu feisty machine the shut down screen is black06:04
neoncodejhutchins: When I goto Settings -> Configure Shortcuts. It doesn't show the other Win key shortcuts that do work.06:04
rjtCAN SOMEONE HELP ME COMPILE A KERNEL, I JUST HAVE 1 QUESTION ABOUT IT06:04
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jhutchinsWhiz2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:05
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kalagiohi06:05
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jhutchinsneoncode: Settings/Global Shortcuts.06:05
rjtit keeps saying FILE TO PATCH which file to i type in there06:05
Ace2016snowice: tried installing libmad0?06:05
dettoaltrimentiis there a program in ubuntu to download podcasts?06:05
theringmastermy machine will shut down normally, but the screen is just not showing06:05
kalagiodo you know any channels to discuss for laptops?06:06
peter_!info nmap06:06
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB06:06
snowicelibmad0 is installed as well, I have no clue what could be missing as well ...06:06
rjtdoes anyone know how to compile a kernel06:06
jhutchinsrjt: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html06:06
Ace2016snowice: can you copy the error message?06:06
neoncodejhutchins: ...Damn I'm blind... thanks!06:06
BluesKaj!compile | rjt06:06
uboturjt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:06
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rjtjhutchins, it keeps telling me to to patch what file and i dont know what pile to put in there06:07
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jhutchinsneoncode: Don't feel to bad, that got me too.06:07
bobleny...06:07
peter_has anyone tryed the new kernel scheduler?06:07
neoncodejhutchins: Right, thanks though!06:07
LeeJunFanpeter_: you mean with the low-latency kernel?06:07
jhutchinsrjt: Kernel Compiling is beyond the scope of this channel, you should find some guides like the one above.  It's something that needs to be done correctly, step-by-step.  Sounds like you've gotten a step out of order.06:07
theringmasterhere is my thread I made about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41775106:07
snapHell yeah Got Metatrader 4 working under wine06:07
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snapSaaaaaawwwweeeeeetttt06:08
snowiceMp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found.  K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.  Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some06:08
snowicedistributions allow installation of Mp3 support via an online update tool (i.e. SuSE's YOU).06:08
kalagiowhere can i ask about a laptop to buy?06:08
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Hobbseekalagio: #ubuntu-offtopic ?06:08
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Hobbsee!mp3 | snowice06:08
kalagiothanks a lot06:08
ubotusnowice: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:08
peter_LeeJunFan: no, i mean that from ingo, look at kerneltrap.org06:09
jhutchinsrjt: Here's a guide specific to Ubuntu (and maybe more current): http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu06:09
Ace2016kalagio: never ever get a laptop with ati for graphics, you will regreat that forever, stick with nvidia, or intel, but nvidia is the best06:09
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kalagioAce2016 i am between two models06:10
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theringmasterwhy doesn't my shut-down screen show?06:11
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rjti am just trying to get my wireless work and i read online that if you compile a new kernel it will work06:12
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misticAce2016: it didn't work :S I picked up "usb headset" in kmix and restarted computer. I'm stil on the other card06:12
Flosoft_hey06:12
LeeJunFanpeter_: if you're looking for a smoother X experience I suggest simply installing schedutils and sudo chrt -p 1 `pidof X`  to give X realtime priority, using the low-latency kernel will help, but you need to turn on preempt with sysctl -w kernel.hz_timer=106:12
AzzcoI'm trying to repartition my system and I need to move files between the partitions. Can I do this from a LiveCD?06:12
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Flosoft_I need some info about DVB-T06:12
Flosoft_I have an MSI TV@nywhere06:13
Flosoft_what do I need to use it?06:13
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adaptrLeeJunFan: I need the preempt flip for any help in the lowlatency kernel ?06:13
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adaptrLeeJunFan: it's not automatically better than the normal one ? that's.. stupid, sorta06:13
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adaptrbecause why the * would I even install the lowlatency kernel ?06:14
theringmasterCan anyone tell me why my shut-down screen won't show?06:14
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johndarcsalut06:14
malik_damn kubuntu is buggy06:14
LeeJunFanadaptr: yeah, I thought so too, but the reasoning it's not on by default is that it can cause problems on machines which use virtualization.06:14
aroMalik_: care to be descriptive?06:14
Whiz2forgot to ask before i left... is there a command to empty the trash from the command line? (I'm out of disk space & can not load my desktop)06:14
malik_i mean it just is06:14
malik_i dont use it anymore06:14
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malik_but when i had it06:14
aroMalik_: I repeat, care to be descriptive?06:14
johndarcdo you know how to open rpm files?06:14
malik_it was incredibly slow06:15
aroMalik_: Then why are you in this channel?06:15
adaptrLeeJunFan: okay.. thanks for the tip06:15
malik_and when i tried to turn the computer off06:15
malik_it wouldnt turn off06:15
red22neoncode: sorry,  something came up i had to handle.  seems like you got it worked out anyway though. good.06:15
malik_but the monitor would power off by itself06:15
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aroMalik_: Why are you in this channel if you no longer use Kubuntu?06:15
Flosoft_!tv06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
Flosoft_!dvb-t06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
theringmasterhello?06:15
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malik_konversation logged me on06:15
johndarchello06:15
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LeeJunFanmalik_: did conversation also type that in for you?06:16
theringmasterIs there a reason why my shut-down screen is not showing?06:16
LeeJunFanerr konversation.06:16
Flosoft_anyone?06:16
aromalik_: please leave if you are going to do nothing productive06:16
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johndarcthanks06:17
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Whiz2can someone help me please? I need to empty the trash on my user, but I can't load KDE, because I have no free disk space. is there a way to do it from the command line?06:17
neoncodered22: Thanks, and thank you for helping!06:17
arotheringmaster: are you using XGL?06:17
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theringmasterno06:17
theringmasterThis is just a default install06:17
arotheringmaster: oh, sorry, I had that problem with XGL, so that is the limit of my experience06:17
adaptrWhiz2: rm -rf ~/.Trash06:17
theringmasterthe computer will shut down normally, but the screen doesn't show06:18
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arotheringmaster: you mean the kubuntu screen with the blue loading bar indicating shut down?06:18
theringmasteryes06:19
theringmasterwould you call that the usplash?06:19
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arotheringmaster: I'm not sure of its actual name06:19
Hobbseetheringmaster: yes06:19
red22yw :)06:19
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Hobbseeksplash is the one after you login06:19
theringmasterso my usplash isn't showing06:20
red22snap: you still around?06:20
Whiz2adaptr ty06:20
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rjtWTF I JUST WANT MY WIRELESS BACK06:20
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snapit wont let me send a private message red06:21
Flosoft_how do I use my TV Card?06:21
Flosoft_it is a DVB-T06:21
Flosoft_MSI TV@nywhere Master06:21
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red22snap: just double click my name.. and type in the new channel.. should work ?06:22
red22if not just type here i suppose pls06:22
snapno they have private messages block for unregistered people06:22
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snaphttp://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=243411#post24341106:23
neoncodeCan anyone help me with KVM, when I try to run it it core dumps and exits.06:23
Whiz2one more question before i leave... I'm going to get myself a larger hard drive for my linux system. does anyone know of a program that will allow me to copy my linux partition to a different drive in a way that will allow me to swap the drives, and boot from the newly copied partition?06:23
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snapthe info i used in that link06:23
red22snap: ah ok i forgot about that06:23
red22ok i'll check that out ty.06:23
kim_Whiz2: i use gparted its in the package manager06:23
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marcreichelthi!06:23
rjtintell wireless, anyone got it workin?06:23
red22what you using it for? trading futures?06:23
snapthat link will have the info....06:23
snaplet me know06:23
snapI trade Forex currency06:24
marcreicheltwith Kubuntu 7.04, KNetworkManager is the default program to configure the network06:24
marcreicheltI'm using a laptop, and i have eth0 (LAN) and eth1 (WLAN)06:24
red22how long have you been doing that?  works well / no flaws or complaints about forex?06:24
Whiz2kim_: so if i use gparted to copy my system partition to a new drive, and make it active (and resize it to the full drive capacity) i should be able to swap them, and boot from the newly copied partition keeping everything currently installed without any issues?06:24
marcreicheltif I configure eth0 and deactivate eth1, after a reboot, eth1 is active again06:24
rjthow to configure mine to work?06:24
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rjti am on wired now and i just want my wireless back so i can play xbox live06:25
theringmasterdoes anyone have any idea on how to fix my usplash?06:25
marcreicheltis this a bug, or a feature? :-/06:25
snapbeen trading for 2 years now06:25
snapforex is very tough06:25
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red22snap: tough?06:26
snaptook me a solid year of 14-18 days and a bunch of losses to finally get good06:26
snowicek3b says normalize-audio not installed, but it's in /usr/bin and the latter is in the search pad, how can that be?06:26
Flosoft_!channels06:26
ubotuA list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:26
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red22ah.06:27
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snaperr that should read 14-18 hour06:27
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red22snap: i would really like to talk some more about this for a bit.  do you mind going to another channel or registering so we can pm and not be off-topic here?06:28
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red22if you don't mind.06:28
snapum sure06:28
Flosoft_can anyone tell me how I use my TV card?06:28
red22great ty06:29
geggamFlosoft_, is it software or hardware encoder ?06:29
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snapcome on over to irc.evolu.net #general-area-napstex if you can06:29
Flosoft_hardware encoder06:29
Flosoft_geggam: atleast I suppose so06:29
geggamdo u have the module ittv modprobed ?06:29
Flosoft_geggam: no :S06:29
geggammodprobe ittv06:29
geggami think xawtv will connect06:30
geggam!xawtv06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xawtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
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red22snap: just join  the channel on this server, can you?06:30
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Flosoft_florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$ modprobe ittv06:30
Flosoft_FATAL: Module ittv not found.06:30
Flosoft_florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$06:30
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Flosoft_geggam: It is a MSI TV@nywhere Master06:31
Flosoft_geggam:  http://www.msicomputer.com/product/netpc/netpc_detail.asp?model=TV@nywhere_Master06:31
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Godfather3scsh.irc.encrypted vR/fpZo=06:32
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Godfather3Test06:33
Flosoftgeggam: I don't know what programms can play TV (wanted Kaffeine to play) and I need some modules I suppose?06:33
geggamFlosoft, this ugly bastard did it with your TV card... mythtv is a bit overkill06:34
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geggamhttp://www.lemis.com/grog/HOWTO/mythtv-setup.html06:34
Flosoftyeah ... but I don't need MyTV06:34
geggamxawtv should be all u need IF the kernel found it...06:34
Flosoft* MythTV06:34
geggami have to get back to database crap06:34
geggam!medibuntu06:34
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ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/06:34
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geggamu might need that Flosoft06:35
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Flosoftok .. cya06:35
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livingdaylighthi, maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?06:37
dettoaltrimentiwhen transferring large files to my external hard drive, it seems to 'pause' itself for 2 or 3 seconds, every 5 or 6 seconds. Can I fix this?06:37
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livingdaylight maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?06:41
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wirrlivingdaylight: the patch for firefox is /usr/bin/firefox06:42
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livingdaylightwirr, much obliged06:42
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malik_yo06:44
malik_is there anyway i can make gnome look like kde?06:44
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dettoaltrimentijust use kde06:44
malik_no06:44
malik_its too buggy06:44
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Arwenyay, free Feisty CDs! are they nice and pretty?06:44
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dettoaltrimentiI've been using it for about a year, malik_ what's buggy about it?06:45
malik_fesity kubuntu06:46
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dettoaltrimentiyeah, I'm using it, what's buggy about it06:46
BluesKajmalik , KDE is fine perhaps your setup is buggy06:46
marcreichelthow can I configure (K)NetworkManager so that the configuration does not change (even after a reboot)?06:46
malik_ubuntu feisty is fine06:46
malik_when i was using kubuntu06:47
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malik_when i tried to turn off the pc it wouldnt06:47
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snowiceis medibuntu repo required to handle mp3 files ?06:47
zolihelp pls I cannot save nvidia screen resolution 1152x864 - i have to adjust after every restart (7.04 kubuntu)06:47
aromalik_: this is a kubuntu support channel, if you are not using kubuntu, do not bother asking questions06:47
kblogdoes anybody know this vnc-client? http://www.cspace.in/06:47
AzzcoIs there any place where I can get help specificly for qtparted?06:47
malik_whoah06:47
malik_i didnt know this was an asshole channel06:48
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BluesKajmalik_, has a point, i have the same problem , but i don't think it's KDE , it's smething to do with X06:48
Pete_ Heh.06:48
aroRegardless, he's been in this channel saying nothing but "WOW KDE IS BUGGY"06:48
aro"My computer won't turn off KDE sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!"06:49
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Azzcoindeed06:49
priest_hi06:49
dettoaltrimentiaro, cool off, he only said it once, and it was in response to something I said06:49
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dettoaltrimentibesides, there's not really a big difference between kubuntu and ubuntu06:49
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AzzcoOkay so does anyone know if there's some parted IRC channel?06:49
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BluesKajyeah, he was here last week being negative too ,... his mom prolly lets him on the pc a few times/wk06:50
sc0tchIs there a way to customize the list of base packages that install (say removing unwanted packages), before installing to HDD?06:50
arodettoaltrimenti: check the logs, he's been saying it for the past hour06:50
marcreicheltAzzco: #parted ?06:50
marcreichelt;)06:50
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Azzcomarcreichelt: I'm using qtParted and I'm having trouble resizing06:50
marcreicheltAzzco: Resizing is _always_ a problem06:51
marcreicheltAFAIK QTParted does not support this feature06:51
marcreicheltgparted does06:51
marcreicheltbut06:51
snowiceCan anybody help me with something as simple as burning an audio CD from mp3 files? Otherwise I go to sleep, it's 1am here. :-)06:51
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BluesKajAzzco, have you considered GParted Live CD , it's bootable and does a much better job06:52
marcreicheltwhat file system do you have on the partition you want to resize?06:52
Azzcosnowice if you're using kubuntu ther'es allways k3b06:52
Azzcomarcreichelt: ext306:52
marcreichelthmm06:52
marcreicheltthen gparted should work06:52
AzzcoOkay thanks I'll try it out06:52
marcreicheltbut always make a backup first06:52
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dettoaltrimentialright06:52
AzzcoOkay06:52
marcreicheltresizing a partition always is critical06:52
snowiceAzzco, I am, and it's with k3b that I have the problem, complaining about a missing plugin, but I have no idea which one it is.06:52
llutzsnowice: use k3b after "sudo aptitude install libk3b2-mp3"06:53
dettoaltrimentihey, is there any way in the terminal to merge all the txt files in a folder without typing each file name out?06:53
snowicellutz, libk3b2-mp3 is installed, but still error06:53
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llutzsnowice: sry no idea then06:54
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snowicellutz, do u use feisty and can you burn audio cd from mp3 files?06:54
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llutzsnowice: yes06:55
marcreicheltsnowice: have you restartedt K3b after that?06:55
Arwensnowice, I can... not that I'd want to....06:55
snowiceyes, I did restart k3b after that06:56
marcreichelthmm06:56
snowicedo I need to add the medibuntu repo in my sources list?06:56
marcreicheltnot really06:56
llutzsnowice: not for mp306:56
Arwenno, libk3b2-mp3 or whatever covers it06:56
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Arwenthe medibuntu k3b can rip DVDs... but with very few options..06:56
snowiceI even rebooted and still have the problem06:57
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Arwenyou know... audio CDs are overrated... just get a portable media player..06:57
marcreicheltsnowice: no idea if it works from then on, but did you install lame?06:57
marcreicheltI have 'lame' installed here06:58
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snowicelame is also installed06:58
marcreicheltbut as all others said, libk3b2-mp3 should work06:58
marcreichelthmm06:58
marcreicheltno idea ;)06:58
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llutzlame encodes mp3, nothing to do with ecoding06:59
snowiceI have added medibuntu, it seems to upgrade amarok, k3b and a few others but it's terribly slow06:59
Arwenllutz, well, lame also acts as a decoder...06:59
marcreicheltoh07:00
marcreicheltllutz: lame also decodes MP3 ;)07:00
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llutzyea but not with k3b07:00
marcreicheltseems so07:00
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marcreicheltmaybe you have a solution for my problem?07:01
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marcreicheltwith (K)NetworkManager?07:01
BluesKajArwen, audio CD quality is much higher than even the highest bitrate MP3 , it's not the same or overrated at all , that's been my experience.07:01
ArwenBluesKaj, if you burn an MP3 to Audio CD, then it's 20x larger and the same bad quality...07:01
Arwenbesides, AAC > MP307:01
marcreichelthar07:02
marcreicheltFLAC > AAC > MP307:02
llutzif lossy-compression, then ogg/Vorbis07:02
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ArwenFLAC and AAC are for different things...07:02
marcreichelt:)07:02
Arwenllutz, meh, I prefer MPEG-4 AAC, it has wider support07:02
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snowiceis there an easy way then to convert mp3 files to ogg?07:02
marcreicheltoggenc?07:03
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llutzthere's a script calles mp32ogg07:03
llutzcalled07:03
BluesKajArwen, i don't burn mp3 to cd ...it's still mp307:03
Arwenmarcreichelt, wait, you can encode audio as WMV???07:03
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ArwenBluesKaj, yep, but that's the topic of the discussion07:03
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Arwen192k MP3 is pretty solid though07:03
marcreicheltno, Arwen07:04
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Arwenthen what's WMV have to do with this?... oh... WMA...07:04
ubuntu_somone can help me07:04
ubuntu_?07:04
marcreicheltcodecs ;)07:04
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soulriderubuntu_: yeah, ask07:04
BluesKajI'm old school , mp3 is for disposeable music lovers07:04
marcreicheltubuntu_: don't ask to ask, just ask07:05
soulriderand ubuntu_ change your nick please07:05
dettoaltrimentiactually, mp3 is pretty good. I know for a fact that I can't tell the difference between mp3 and wav on any audio equipment that costs less than $200007:05
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soulrideryeah, i dont have a problem with MP307:05
dettoaltrimentithis is just like saying that records sound better than cds.... I can't hear it.07:05
soulriderkipseron:  :)07:05
snowiceok, I will try to convert my mp3's to ogg07:05
ArwenBluesKaj, well, MP3 is kinda outdated.... it's time for it to die anyway07:05
snowicewho owns the mp3 patent anyway?07:05
Arwensnowice, NO! DON'T DO THAT07:05
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dettoaltrimentidoes anyone here use the console audio player moc?07:06
snowiceArwen, why not?07:06
kipseroni install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd07:06
kipseron?07:06
Arwensnowice, that makes your crappy music sound even worse07:06
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marcreicheltsnowice: beside, oggenc does not support MP307:06
Arwenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3#Licensing_and_patent_issues - MP3 patents07:06
dettoaltrimentiif you don't use mp3, then use FLAC. it's the smallest lossless way to go07:06
BluesKajdettoaltrimenti, audio memory is terrible , I'll grant you that , but if one compares the 2 CD Audio will win hands down even on a rck system07:06
marcreicheltyou first have to decode the MP3s07:06
BluesKajrack07:06
Arwendettoaltrimenti, not actually true, there's several formats more efficient than FLAC07:06
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ArwenBluesKaj, again, 192K+ MP3 is more or less transparent... but then again, I don't have gold-plated wires07:07
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kdawghate to interupt, but how do I add a terminal shortcut to the right click menu?07:07
BluesKajFlac has a lot of utilities that will play it , like VLC07:07
ArwenBluesKaj, not a lot of support on the portable front though07:08
Arwen*cpu power*07:08
snowiceit's clear I can't use mp3, so I need something else, but I still have a large collection of mp3's, so they need to be converted in something I can work with07:08
kipseronok someone can help me07:08
kipseron?07:08
Arwensnowice, decode them to wav and then burn them07:08
kdawgwhats up kipseron07:08
kipseroni ask the quistion07:09
snowicehow to decode to wav?07:09
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BluesKajArwen, no fancy interconnects are necessary to tell the diff between true wav and mp307:09
Ace2016kipseron: are you on the live cd?07:09
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kipseronyes07:09
ArwenBluesKaj, that was a sarcastic comment... but anyway, I definitely can't tell the difference... maybe you have golden ear syndrome? or your encoder really sucks?07:09
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Mendahi07:10
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Ace2016anyway07:10
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ArwenAce2016, frozen google :-)07:10
dettoaltrimentiBluesKaj- http://duxlist.com:81/ give that a try07:10
kipseronace07:11
kipseronyou can help me07:11
kdawgyeah but I thought the earth was getting hotter every year......  al gore needs to talk to google07:11
kipseron?07:11
kipseron\07:11
BluesKajArwen, well I'm sorry you think it's sarcastic ...been into audio and playing music for over 50 yrs , maybe it's just my aural experience showing thru .07:11
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kipseron\07:11
kipseronplz somone07:11
kipseron<kipseron> i install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd07:11
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ArwenBluesKaj, or it's because you *expect* to hear a difference so your brain *perceives* one07:11
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Arwentry a blind test07:11
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marcreichelthehe07:11
marcreicheltlame --decode test.mp3 - | oggenc - -o test.ogg07:11
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marcreicheltPipes are cool07:12
Ace2016kipseron: you could chroot to it07:12
kipseronhow i do that07:12
BluesKajbah humbug ...mp3 sucks period ! :)07:12
firestarterhi all. is there anyone who has VLC or MPLAYER? I have to test if my streaming server works for remote adresses.... thnks07:12
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Ace2016kipseron: run konsole, then type in sudo su, then  mkdir /mnt/root07:12
ArwenBluesKaj, I never said it didn't... I just said that it's transparent at 192K07:13
BluesKajfirestarter,try amarok07:13
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kipseronand07:13
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vickshi, usb isnt working on my feisty. i can't even enter the usb module in system settings. and when i do an lsusb in konsole, it just hangs. can anyone help me?07:13
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dettoaltrimentiI tried that, and I couldn't tell the difference07:13
BluesKajsucks transparently , then :)07:13
Ace2016kipseron: mount /dev/whatever your root partition is /mnt/root07:13
Arwenfirestarter, I do07:13
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Ace2016kipseron: do you know what your / was?07:14
Arwenfirestarter, uri?07:14
slow-motionhallo07:14
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kipseron/home/kipseron07:14
kipseronyou mean to that07:14
kipseronor07:14
kipseronto07:14
kipseron/media/hdb107:14
firestarterarwen, one moment (thnks)07:14
Ace2016hdb1 was / right?07:14
Ace2016can't be it07:15
kipseronand know07:15
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kipseronhow i can get into the pakage manager07:15
kipseronof this partition07:15
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kipseronpackage07:15
greekohello07:15
Ace2016kipseron: what partition did you install ubuntu to?07:15
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kipseron/media/hdb107:16
kipseronkubuntu07:16
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dettoaltrimentiwhich file deals with mounting things when you plug them in?07:16
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kipseronhow want to get into the package manager of this partiton07:16
kipseronfor finish this update07:16
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Ace2016oh so you mean in the livecd you can go into /dev/hdb1 and it has fodlers like bin and stuff?07:17
Ace2016kipseron: i'm trying to get to that, you have to mound it first07:17
kipseronno i want to delete package07:17
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kipseroni mounted it07:17
Ace2016kipseron: do you want to finish the update?07:17
kipseronits already mount07:17
kipseronyes07:17
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Arwendettoaltrimenti, /etc/fstab07:18
kipseroni want a access to do upgrade on this partiton07:18
kipseronand its finish my update07:18
Ace2016kipseron: so the root partition has been mounted into /media/hdb1 and you see all the folders like usr and boot and stuff in there?07:18
dettoaltrimentithat's the one, thanks arwen07:18
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kipseronyes07:18
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dettoaltrimentiand is there a log file for mount?07:19
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kipseroni think i made it07:19
kipseronsec07:19
kipseronno07:19
kipseronso you can helkp me07:19
Ace2016ok then run cd /  and then mount -t proc none /media/hdb1/proc07:19
kipseronso you can help07:19
Arwendettoaltrimenti, /var/log/syslog ?07:19
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Ace2016kipseron: done?07:19
paoloi need help with mouse07:19
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kipseronsec07:20
paoloin fact after upgrading to feisty my 3rd button mouse07:20
paolostop working07:20
Ace2016paolo: you mean middle click?07:21
kipseronyes07:21
kipserondone07:21
dettoaltrimentiwell I can't find it, but I get an error about not having a newline in my fstab- what's that all about07:21
Arwenhaha, my generic MICROSOFT mouse works perfectly :-)07:21
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Arwensays something doesn't it?07:21
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Ace2016mount -o bind /dev /media/hdb1/dev07:21
kipseronAce2016:07:21
Ace2016kipseron: run that07:22
Ace2016kipseron: ??07:22
paoloi tried to look @ xorg.conf for some errors but i didn't find nothing .-P07:22
kipserondone07:22
Ace2016sudo chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash07:22
Ace2016kipseron: run that07:22
paoloclicking the wheel aka 3rd button07:22
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Ace2016kipseron: does it get you into the command line?07:23
kipseronyes07:23
Ace2016kipseron: now run apt-get dist-upgrade07:23
paolomy mouse is microsoft too :-)07:23
BluesKajas is mine07:23
kipseronnot work07:23
kipseronits show only fonts07:23
Ace2016kipseron: what error07:24
kipseronThe following packages will be upgraded:07:24
kipseron  ttf-arphic-ukai07:24
kipseronits do only that07:24
rjthmm07:24
Ace2016thats strange07:24
rjti was wondering if someone is around and maybe able to help me figure out my wifi problems07:24
kipseronace07:25
kipseronso you know what to do07:25
kipseron?07:25
Ace2016kipseron: try apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade07:25
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kipseronno07:25
Ace2016no?07:26
kipseronthe same problem07:26
Ace2016problem?07:26
kipserononly that package07:26
kipseronThe following packages will be upgraded:07:26
kipseron  ttf-arphic-ukai07:26
BluesKaj!ndiswrapper | rjt07:26
uboturjt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:26
paoloi also looked for differences between the current xorg.conf and some other previously bak-upped07:27
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kipseronace07:27
paoloit doesn't help07:27
kipseronso you have more ideas07:27
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Ace2016open a new konsole tab and do ls -a  /media/hdb1  and paste the contents of the current konsole tab and the new one in the pastebin:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:27
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firestarterarwen: this is the url for VLC  rtsp://82.48.155.216:8854/mpeg4ESVideoTest07:28
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firestartercan you tell me if you see the streaming? (thnks)07:29
kipseronhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17089/07:29
kipseronace07:29
kipseronhere it is07:29
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Ace2016kipseron: and the contents of the first konsole tab?07:30
Arwenfirestarter, no data07:30
Ace2016the one in which you tried to do the update?07:30
firestarterArwen: are you bhind a FW?07:30
Arwenyes, what's that have to do with your stream though?07:31
kipseronhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17091/07:31
kipseronhere it is07:31
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Ace2016see that there explains a lot07:31
firestarterArwen: i have to test if the streaming is reachable from a remote host07:32
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Arwenfirestarter, VLC connects to your server but fails to receive any data07:32
firestartermaybe Arwen your FW blocks the incoming data07:32
kipseronace07:32
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kipseronyou know what i need to do07:32
kipseron?07:32
Arwenfirestarter, um, no07:32
Arwenyour server is just misconfigured07:32
Ace2016kipseron: umount /dev/hdb107:33
kipseronok07:33
kipseronand07:33
firestarterArwen: try this other one, plz:07:33
Ace2016kipseron: open a new konsole tab, and don't type anything about chroot randomly in tehre07:33
firestarter  rtsp://82.48.155.216:8554/mpeg4ESVideoTest07:33
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kipseronok07:33
kipseronwhat to do07:33
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Arwenfirestarter, same problem, rtp connect but no data07:34
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firestarterArwen: ok, thnks for your support07:34
easy1!compiz07:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:34
kipseronace07:34
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Ace2016kipseron: do sudo su, then mkdir /temp then mount /dev/hdb1 /temp, then mount -t proc none /temp/proc then mount -o bind /dev /temp/dev07:35
easy1does anyone know if the compiz guide works for fiesty07:35
easy1this one !compiz07:36
Ace2016now do sudo chroot /temp /bin/bash07:36
kipseronroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hdb1 /temp07:36
kipseronmount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /temp busy07:36
kipseronmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /mnt/root07:36
kipseronroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#07:36
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Ace2016kipseron: ok run umount /dev/hdb107:37
Ace2016done?#07:37
kipseronroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# umount /dev/hdb107:37
kipseronumount: /mnt/root: device is busy07:37
kipseronumount: /mnt/root: device is busy07:37
kipseronroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#07:37
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Ace2016close konsole and start a fresh one, and close any file browsers looking at /mnt/root07:38
Ace2016then run sudo su, then umount /dev/hdb107:38
Ace2016does that work?07:38
kipseronno07:38
kipseronbusy agein07:38
Ace2016ok well the fastest way to solve this is to restart07:38
Ace2016so restart and come back07:38
CygnusX1Has anyone added Kubuntu-desktop to Ubuntu 7.04 and ran into the issue in which after logging in via KDM, the screen blanks momentarily and then drops you back to the KDM login screen?  (I am currently using GDM to login to KDE without issue...well, except shutdown and restart are not available except from GDM)07:39
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emanuel:o07:40
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adlsfkjadhello07:40
Ace2016hi07:40
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Ace2016kipseron: u there?07:41
adlsfkjadi have a quick question for somebody07:41
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aleksanteriadlsfkjad: ask07:41
adlsfkjadyou ready lol?07:41
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adlsfkjadok im runnin 2 os's07:41
Ace2016which 2?07:41
adlsfkjadi have windows xp and ubuntu on one hard drive07:41
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Ace2016and you want to access linux files from windows?07:42
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adlsfkjadactually i wanna do it the other way around i want to acces all my windows files using linux07:42
Ace2016is it ntfs???07:43
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Arwen!ntfs | adlsfkjad07:43
ubotuadlsfkjad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:43
adlsfkjadyes07:43
Ace2016or fat32??07:43
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adlsfkjadnts\07:43
adlsfkjadntfs*07:43
Ace2016oh well you can read ntfs but not write, writing to ntfs is dangerous07:43
MegaVolthi, im having a problem with dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       help pls :(07:43
kinus__has anyone managed to access linux files from a windows boot? i've got close by running a virtual pc in windows and then creating a samba share07:43
adlsfkjadall i want to do is listein to my music but it wont find the hard drive...07:43
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adlsfkjadive tried mounting and everything yet it wont lemme do anythin07:44
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MegaVoltkinus__: www.fs-driver.org ?07:44
adigaquit07:44
Ace2016adlsfkjad: thats fine, you can listen to the music07:44
adlsfkjadyes explain to me how thats where im lost07:44
Ace2016adlsfkjad: it should be mounted in /media/07:44
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adlsfkjadill have to check again but its not in there07:45
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MegaVoltadlsfkjad: what kind of harddisk / partition is it?07:45
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adlsfkjadwhat you mean07:45
kinus__Thanks MegaVolt, i don't trust it though07:46
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MegaVoltadlsfkjad: e.g. if its on the first sata disc second partition try: mkdir /mnt/test && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/test07:46
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MegaVoltas root07:46
MegaVoltkinus__: using it for about 2 years now, it works fine07:46
Ace2016adlsfkjad: post the contents of sudo fdisk -l and run kdesu kate and open /etc/fstab and copy the contents also to a pastebin,    http://pastebin.com/07:46
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kinus__MegaVolt, i don't run windows anymore...that was a problem I was trying to solve about 3 years ago. Was just curious if anyone had solved it yet07:47
jervinekinus__: fs-driver is pretty good... there's also other utilities like e2fs explorer (or something like that)07:47
adlsfkjadpeter@Omerta:~$ sudo fdisk -l07:48
adlsfkjadPassword:07:48
adlsfkjadDisk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes07:48
adlsfkjad255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders07:48
adlsfkjadUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes07:48
adlsfkjad   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System07:48
adlsfkjad/dev/hda1   *           1        1589    12763611    7  HPFS/NTFS07:48
Ace2016me wonders when kipseron will be back07:48
adlsfkjad/dev/hda2            1590        2176     4715077+  83  Linux07:48
adlsfkjad/dev/hda3            2177        2482     2457945   82  Linux swap / Solaris07:48
Ace2016adlsfkjad: wait!!!!!!07:48
adlsfkjadDisk /dev/hdb: 122.9 GB, 122942324736 bytes07:48
adlsfkjad255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders07:48
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adlsfkjadUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes07:48
Ace2016adlsfkjad: STOP!!!!07:48
adlsfkjad   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System07:48
adlsfkjad/dev/hdb1               1       14946   120053713+   7  HPFS/NTFS07:48
Ace2016STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!107:48
adlsfkjadpeter@Omerta:~$07:48
MegaVoltadlsfkjad: use pastebin or smething like that pls07:48
adlsfkjadi stopped lol07:48
BluesKaj!pastebin | adlsfkjad07:48
ubotuadlsfkjad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:48
MegaVoltsee topic07:48
Ace2016adlsfkjad: i said copy it to a pastebin!!! http://pastebin.com/07:48
adlsfkjadto late haha07:49
adlsfkjadim workin on that now07:49
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MegaVoltwhat you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows07:49
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Ace2016now post your /etc/fstab at the pastebin07:49
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jervineMegaVolt: he probably wants hdb1 - that seems to be the larger (data?) partition07:49
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KubuntuHello07:50
Ace2016hi07:50
MegaVoltjervine: right .. didnt see the last line ;)07:50
KubuntuHow can I make cool music in LMMS?07:50
adlsfkjadya the bigger one is my second harddrive07:50
MegaVoltwhat you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows07:50
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adlsfkjadcant create directory07:51
MegaVoltadlsfkjad: as root07:51
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Ace2016adlsfkjad: can you post the contents of /etc/fstab???  run "sudo cat /etc/fstab" in the command line and paste it into the pastebin07:52
yonkeltronhow does one get to the adept installer interface?07:52
LjLAce2016: fstab should be readable as non-root too07:52
MegaVolthttp://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       can anyone help?07:52
LjLyonkeltron: K / System / Adept Manager07:52
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jussi01ok, ive just reinstalled, and my adept doesnt start... it tries but it just doesnt start. any ideas?07:52
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adlsfkjadits not lettin me do fstab07:53
Ace2016jussi01: try installing synapitc, sudo apt-get install synaptic, and start it using kdesu synaptic07:53
yonkeltronLjL: yes but that's the adept manager and i want to know how to get to the interface pictured here: http://shots.linuxquestions.org/scaled/Kubuntu%207.04/21.gif07:53
to0omhi all, a question: i'd like to get java working with konqueror (e.g. with map24.com). i'm using feisty and have sun-java installed from the ubuntu repository. i also have java enabled in the konqueror settings and have entered the full java executable path, but map24.com still doesn't work. does anyone have an idea?07:53
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Ace2016O_O07:53
adlsfkjadpermission denied lol07:53
MegaVoltjussi01: maybe remove (with purge) adept and reinstall ?07:53
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Cable86how we doin?07:54
jussi01MegaVolt: yeah, ill give that a try07:54
adlsfkjaddo i have to format the second one linux format?07:54
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MegaVoltyonkeltron: kde start menu - add/remove programs07:54
MegaVoltor console: adept_installer07:55
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LjLyonkeltron: err, that's jude K / Add/Remove...07:56
LjLjsut07:56
LjLgah, just07:56
KubuntuWhat cool can I install?07:56
kinus__qtparted07:56
kinus__yakuake07:56
LjL!info coolmain07:56
ubotuPackage coolmain does not exist in feisty07:56
aroKubuntu: define cool07:56
LjL!info coolmail07:57
ubotucoolmail: Mail notifier with 3d graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-9 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 104 kB07:57
kinus__devede07:57
kinus__acidrip07:57
kinus__gtkpod07:57
kinus__chromium07:57
kinus__supertux07:57
kinus__tuxracer07:57
kinus__those are all cool things07:58
Cable86how would i go about changing the K icon?07:58
Ace2016kinus__: you missed the best one, beryl :D07:58
Ace2016Cable86: install kbfx07:58
kinus__Ace2016: ahh...of course07:58
kinus__though i assume evryone has beryl installed by now07:58
Cable86i dont use beryl07:58
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Cable86i used it a LONG time ago, but it was too unstable so i just stayed away from it07:59
BluesKajwhy beryl ...why asume :)07:59
MegaVolti also dont use it ... but i got it installed to have someting to show if there will ever be a girl anywhere near me07:59
Ace2016Cable86: well not its stable enough to use, mine has never crashed so far in feisty :D#08:00
soulrideri had problems with beryl in ubuntu. but it works great for me in Arch08:00
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Cable86nice....i last used it back when its interface looked exactly like compiz, but it just had some extras :-P08:00
kinus__a great beryl theme ---> http://www.beryl-themes.org/content/show.php/Kore?content=5470108:00
soulridermy beryl uses mi KDE theme08:00
MegaVoltcmon guys anyone pls :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html    how to fix this?08:01
philip_i like beryl in feisty but when i try to run wolfenstein it doesn't go full screen08:01
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rjti just wish my wireless intel card worked08:01
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Cable86i wonder how things will progress with compiz/beryl now that theyre merging08:01
MegaVoltthat beryl theme looks ... not really good08:01
MegaVoltmore like " i want to be vista but im too ugly to even do that "08:02
aroMegaVolt: to each his own08:02
MegaVoltyea08:02
Cable86Ace2016: so kbfx will give me the option to change the icon?08:02
soulriderMegaVolt: try doing "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"08:02
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soulriderMegaVolt: vista doesnt look that good08:03
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soulrideryes, it looks nice, but not that much08:03
MegaVoltsoulrider: i get that error message trying to do dist-upgrade (and upgrade, update works fine)08:03
jubuntushould one use apt-get or aptitude?08:03
KubuntuVista looks like your grandmas ass!08:03
Cable86put it all in one command...."sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" goes faster that way :-D08:03
MegaVoltthink the black is a little too depressing08:03
soulriderMegaVolt: aptitude or apt-get ?08:03
MegaVoltapt-get08:03
Kubuntuapt-get i think!08:03
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soulrideraptitude is better than apt-get08:04
MegaVoltaptitude is something else?08:04
soulriderhandles dependencies better in some cases08:04
Cable86jubuntu:  read this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude08:04
MegaVoltkk ill try ;)08:04
soulridereveryone has been linking tot hats ite, wtf is it? :P08:04
yonkeltronLjL: is the adept-installer interface present in edgy?08:04
MegaVoltno, aptitude giving me the same error08:04
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Cable86soulrider:  its just a great guide site that aysiu (from the forums) made08:05
KubuntuHow often should I update Kubuntu? Can it do it automaticaly?08:05
soulrideri see, can we all contribute?08:05
soulriderlast night i was thinking of making a quick FAQ for newbies08:05
soulriderwith the most basic questions, quick andswers08:05
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KubuntuHo made Kubuntu?08:06
Cable86well, im guessing you could add to the wiki somehow, or write a entry in the tutorials and tips section of the forums08:06
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KubuntuBill Gates?08:06
aroYea Bill Gates made it last night08:06
kaneknowsso is there a way you can force a cdrom to eject?08:06
kaneknowsits not mounted08:06
soulridereject08:06
Cable86push the eject button?08:06
MegaVoltkaneknows: press the button08:07
aroYou can physically put a pin in the little hole that forces the door to open on the CDROM08:07
KubuntuHehe08:07
soulriderKubuntu: no way bill made this :P08:07
KubuntuHo made this?08:07
Ace2016restart the pc and unmount it during the restart08:07
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KubuntuA Deutch guy?08:07
soulriderKubuntu: Mark Shuttleworth founded Ubuntu08:07
aroA lot of people made it08:07
aroIt's a community effort08:07
kaneknowsaro thats truee but thats a little hackey eh?08:07
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soulriderLinus Torvalds was hte one that wrote Linux originally08:07
soulriderKubuntu: linux is mantained byt he community now08:07
arokaneknows, you said it wasn't mounted so that is what I suggested08:07
KubuntuNot by that Deutch guy?08:08
kaneknows: )08:08
soulriderno08:08
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soulriderhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Kubuntu read that08:08
KubuntuHow can I contribute?08:09
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ultrafuzzI just ran the Distro Upgrade last night and now I cannot access or read my USB HD, i have it enables but "i do not have the rights to open it"...any thoughts?08:09
soulriderKubuntu: lots of ways08:09
Cable86is there a way to make a konqueror quicklauncher that i can use to pick which profile i want it to load with?08:10
esbenultrafuzz: Does it mount? Try typing "mount" in a terminal08:10
KubuntuHow can I make a game for instance?08:10
ultrafuzzesben: ill try08:10
Cable86like...one that gives me a choice, or one for each view profile?08:10
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soulriderKubuntu:  you would ahve to know programming :P08:10
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KubuntuWhere can I learn that?08:11
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KubuntuIsn't it a WYSIWYG editor for games?08:11
MegaVoltKubuntu: google c++ tutorial08:11
soulridernot that i know of Kubuntu08:11
soulrideri need to go study, be back later08:11
ultrafuzzesben: already mounted...still cannot access08:11
KubuntuIs c++ for kubuntu?08:11
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MegaVoltand google opengl tutorial08:11
si^hey, someone here with ATI + fglrx who can help me? i installed fglrx when i run with DRI disabled it's ok when i run with DRI enabled kde hangs after loading08:12
KubuntuI thougth it was for windows!08:12
MegaVoltKubuntu: c++ is for almost everything, including kubuntu08:12
jubuntuwhy do you want to enable DRI with fgrlx?08:12
KubuntuSo if I make a c++ game, then it would work in both linux and windows?08:12
si^jubuntu: 3d acceleration?08:12
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MegaVoltKubuntu: if you use the right libs: yes08:13
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MegaVoltKubuntu: try google for c++, opengl, sdl08:13
BluesKajjubuntu, he's talikning about direct rendering, so he can run apps like google earth etc08:13
aroKubuntu: you really should read up on C++ by googling it08:13
aroKubuntu: you'll learn a lot more than in here08:13
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KubuntuBut where can I find a complyer that worx in kubuntu?08:14
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ultrafuzzKubuntu: Usae Adept and search for C++ Complier08:14
jubuntuapt-get install g++ ;)08:14
MegaVoltsi^: isnt fglrx the ati driver with (more or less full) 3d functionality? then there is no need for dri08:14
Kubuntusudo apt-get install c++ ?08:14
esbenKubuntu: gcc is the name of the compiler everyone uses on linux08:14
MegaVoltgcc for c and g++ for c++08:15
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KubuntuI already hav gcc08:15
BluesKajMegaVolt, if one uses the proprietary fglrx driver , it won't dri with the open source one08:15
MegaVoltjava is probably easier to start with08:15
esbenKubuntu: Then ou are set :)08:15
KubuntuHow do I start gcc?08:15
MegaVoltBluesKaj: exactly ;) it cant work that way08:15
esbenKubuntu: Find a C++ tutorial site. Try going from wikipedia08:16
KubuntuBut I need to start the program first!08:16
KubuntuHow?08:16
ultrafuzzesben: already mounted...still cannot access08:16
rjtintel wireless08:16
rjthas there been a fix yet?08:16
aroKubuntu, you don't "start" gcc08:16
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BluesKajyeah MegaVolt unless our italian friend who wrote Envy comes up with a version for Feisty08:16
KubuntuWhy not?08:16
aroKubuntu, you really need to read up on basic programming, try googling it08:16
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jubuntulinux kernel 2.6.20 contains the latest driver for ipw394508:16
KubuntuBut I need a complyer!08:17
aroKubuntu, there are great websites out there that will answer ALL of what you are asking08:17
KubuntuSuch as?08:17
aroKubutnu, gcc is a compiler08:17
aroKubuntu, www.google.com08:17
beauwhen i do iwconfig i get access point:invalid any suggestions?08:17
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ArwenKubuntu, you run gcc like this "gcc -o binaryfile sourcefile.c"08:17
si^MegaVolt: no idea i want to make it functional... for now i have 2 options, when i set in bios AGP to 4 MB it runs without DRI when i set 128 MB it loads with DRI etc... and hang after KDE is loaded it hangs i can move mouse but all freeze08:17
beaui also tried to set the ap to any but it didnt work08:18
esbenKubuntu: Try here :) http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/08:18
Kubuntuubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory08:18
Kubuntubash: gcc:: command not found08:18
Kubuntuubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: no input files08:18
Kubuntubash: gcc:: command not found08:18
Kubuntuops08:18
jubuntuwhat ati ?08:18
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Kubuntu!pastebin08:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:18
aroKubuntu, PLEASE read up on basic programming, it sounds like you don't know where to begin08:18
frojndwhy is my soudn all weired when I connect headphones ???? plase help? If I have speakers sound is OK, but when swich the cables sound is all weird.. any ideas??08:19
ArwenKubuntu, you're too lame to write programs, go die please08:19
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Kubuntubut it says I neeed a coplier, gcc won't run!08:19
MegaVoltsi^: the flxgr driver cant work with dri (afaik)08:19
si^MegaVolt: i run Kubuntu 6.10 + ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run [ method: http://forum.ubuntu.ro/viewtopic.php?id=1355 ]  + Radeon 9100 @ 128 MB08:19
aroKubuntu, are you being serious or just trolling?08:19
jubuntu(II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull!08:19
KubuntuI'm serious!08:19
beauhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17093/08:19
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si^MegaVolt: so what i have to do to make it running 3D games, cedega etc...?08:19
aroKubuntu, this is the last time I'm going to say this, go to http://www.google.com and search for programming tutorials08:20
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Arwensi^, buy an nvidia card..08:20
photonKubuntu: gcc -o mybin sourcefile.c08:20
jubuntusi^: did you check this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:20
arophoton, he doesn't know what that means, he types it verbatim08:20
jubuntu3d ati works just fine08:20
si^Arwen: i'm really thinking about this :( i spent whole day08:20
si^lsmod|grep fglrx08:20
si^fglrx                 406988  008:20
si^agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,via_agp08:20
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MegaVoltsi^: the ati driver should provide all the functionality of dri by itself08:20
MegaVoltsi^: sadly it doesnt do a good job at it ... the ati driver simply sucks ... id never buy an ati card because of that ;)08:20
Kubuntugcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory08:20
Kubuntugcc: no input files08:20
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arophoton, see08:21
KubuntuThat happens!08:21
aroKubuntu, www.google.com08:21
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si^fglrxinfo08:21
si^display: :0.0  screen: 008:21
si^OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org08:21
si^OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:21
si^OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)08:21
sylvisjok! so08:21
hendaussomebody help me please!08:21
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BluesKajtelling him to buy nvisdia doesn't help his immediate problem08:21
MegaVoltsi^: nothing, the fglrx driver alone is capable of running 3d games08:21
Kubuntunvida rules08:21
jubuntuall i had to do was to run "sudo aticonfig --initial"08:21
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si^jubuntu: i set that initial....08:21
BluesKajsi^, why are you fooling with the bios for dri anyway ?08:22
sylvisjThe NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!08:22
hendausi am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy?08:22
MegaVoltsi^: by the way: world of padman rulez08:22
Kubuntujubuntu what is jubuntu?08:22
sylvisjcan anyone help?08:22
Arwensi^, that means your fglrx isn't running08:22
si^i have that:08:22
si^LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo08:22
si^libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false08:22
si^libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false08:22
sylvisjplease?08:22
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feldegastcould someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors08:22
Arwenyou have to have a vendor string like "ati tech X1950XT" or something08:22
jubuntuwhat ati card do you have?08:22
si^BluesKaj: to run KDE... because when i set AGP aperture to 128 MB it hangs...08:22
BluesKajwell, don't08:23
si^Arwen: yeah but i set it in my xorg.conf08:23
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nvonhi all08:23
frojndI don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???08:23
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Arwensi^, make sure there are no references to "driver ati" or "driver radeon"08:23
KubuntuWhat programs burns cds in kubuntu?08:23
BluesKajsi^, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf0779708:23
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si^Arwen: in xorg.confg?08:24
sylvisjThe NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!08:24
sylvisjI'm given taht error by xinit08:24
sylvisjMy X is apparently quite borked08:24
Arwensi^, yes08:24
sylvisjCan anyone help me fix it?08:24
si^so i have to disable "ati" driver?08:24
feldegastKubuntu use k3b08:24
KubuntuDon't use NVIDA drivers they break x!!08:24
si^and just leave fglrx ?08:24
Arwenreplace all references to "driver ati" with "driver fglrx"08:24
KubuntuThenks08:24
nvoni upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??08:24
Arwenand make sure there's only one device entry08:24
sylvisjKubuntu, wtf?08:24
si^i have ati + fgrlx in xorg.conf08:25
KubuntuI installed the Nvida driver, it broke x!08:25
sylvisjbut really, can anyone help me out?08:25
frojndI don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???08:25
BluesKajArwen,, that doesn't work on some Ati cards08:25
feldegastnvon sounds like you have a firewall blocking things08:25
ArwenBluesKaj, eh?08:25
si^wait i'll pastebin my xorg.conf08:25
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sylvisjWhat the hell should I use if not nvidia drivers?08:25
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BluesKajsi^, check this site out .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf0779708:25
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Leckeynvidia-glx-new08:26
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feldegastsylvisj u can use nv drivers....08:26
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nvonfeldegast: i uninstalled guarddog and firestarter and clamav. and also it works for ~2 minutes. if it were a firewall, it shouldn't work at all, i think08:26
sylvisjLeckey, why those over the nvidia binaries?08:26
KubuntuNo NVIDA drivers is BADD!08:26
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feldegastnvon ok that doesn't sound like a firewall....08:27
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nvon:-)08:27
feldegastcould someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors08:27
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makihelp08:27
si^Arwen: BluesKaj MegaVolt here is my conf: http://tinyurl.com/2yw3y508:27
sylvisjKubunt, and the reason is...08:27
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sylvisjLeckey, after an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, still getting the same error08:28
Leckeyhave you edited your x11 conf?08:28
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sylvisjIt's set to use the nvidia driver if that's what you mean08:28
Leckeyyeah :(08:28
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Arwensi^, Section "Device"Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R200 QM [Radeon 9100] "Driver      "ati"BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"EndSection - try putting "fglrx" instead of "ati" here08:28
Leckeywhat card you got?08:29
Arwenmake sure to back up though08:29
sylvisj8800gts08:29
MegaVoltsi^: remove the option "dri"08:29
sylvisjI'm just gonna see what envy can do08:29
KubuntuI got 3.4 ghz CPU!08:29
nvoni upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??08:29
soonanyone familiar with NFS using the KDE System Settings gui??08:29
Arwensi^, oh wait, your card is 9100? fglrx doesn't support it anymore08:29
LeckeyI setup drivers for my 7300 GO today08:29
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sylvisjthat's great, I'm surprised your prescott hasn't suffered SPDS yet08:29
si^yes 910008:29
si^but i use older driver08:29
si^8.28.808:29
hendausi am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy? please08:29
sylvisjwow08:30
sylvisjenvy fixed it08:30
Arwensi^, huh, you know that r200 is full support by open driver, right?08:30
sylvisjId unno how08:30
si^i tried envy too... same effect08:30
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Leckeycould have got the official drivers from nvidia site08:30
Leckeyinstead of using the repository08:30
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BluesKajsi^, change composite to  "0" in the Extensions section08:30
sylvisjLeckey, those didn't work either08:30
sylvisjthose were my first attempt08:30
Leckeyah08:30
sylvisjand god damn it08:30
si^BluesKaj: 0 != Disable ?08:30
ArwenBluesKaj, no, it should be "disable"08:30
sylvisj this got me further08:30
conchihola08:30
sylvisjbut still isn't working08:30
hendaushelpers how can i see the version of my kubuntu?08:30
Kubuntuuse the nv drivers!08:30
conchionly english??08:31
si^Arwen: so u think i should put there fglrx instead of ati ?08:31
sylvisj2d is bad08:31
sylvisj3d is good08:31
KubuntuYou can't remember?08:31
MegaVoltanyone knows how to fix a broken apt-get /aptitude? :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html08:31
Leckeywe like fps > 2 Kubuntu08:31
Arwensi^, yeah, try it - but make sure to backup xorg.conf first08:31
MegaVolt(happens at dist-upgrade)08:31
LeXxiKCan anyone help me with VPN in Feistier? I must install pptp-linux and network-manager-pptp, but my internet only from vpn08:31
LeXxiKI've downloaded these packages separately, but they do not exist, dependency problems.08:31
BluesKajhe has the same card I use Arwen and my dri and fgl_glxgears works fine08:31
jubuntusudo apt-get -f install08:31
KubuntuI also like FTP!08:31
si^Arwen: ok give me a minute i'll check this08:31
MegaVoltLeXxiK: i also had troubles with network-manager and vpn, i switched to kvpnc08:31
MegaVoltLeXxiK: imho the better program by far08:32
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LeXxiKhm08:32
hendaushelpers i want help!!!08:32
feldegastcould someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors08:32
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Arwensi^, oh wait, sorry, it should be composte 008:32
MegaVoltLeXxiK: never got the network-manager to work properly, cant really help you with that sorry ;) did try for about a day08:32
Arwencomposite 0*08:32
sylvisjCan someone paste their Device sectino from xorg.conf?08:33
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BluesKajComposite "0"08:33
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nvoni upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??08:33
esbenhendaus: If /etc/apt/sources.list contains the name "feisty" you are on feisty. If edgy, edgy :)08:33
Arwensylvisj, why? it won't apply to your system08:33
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MegaVoltsylvisj: http://rafb.net/p/F5nXov68.html08:34
sylvisji just needed the BusID part, which I found08:34
sylvisjfor the BusID line08:34
MegaVoltwhy bus id?08:34
ralph_hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?08:34
sylvisjmaybe specifying the correct bus ID would help. no.08:34
LeXxiKMegaVolt: Thanks08:34
hendausesben,  i have mde08:35
hendausesben,  i have kde08:35
sylvisjThis is just damned annoying now08:35
hendausesben,  what is the code to show me the version08:35
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sylvisj03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)08:36
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BluesKajsi^, there is a new fglrx driver out on the AMD website08:36
nvoni upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??08:36
ralph_hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?... I get only a cursor after activating...08:36
esbenhendaus: Open console, and enter "uname -a". If the result is something contains "2.6.20-15-generic " you are on feisty08:37
esbenhendaus: "Konsole", I meant08:37
MegaVoltnvon: happened to me too, solved it by editing the /etc/network/interfaces and removing the "/&%&"$ network manager08:38
sylvisjI need help08:38
MegaVoltapt-get remove --purge network-manager ;)08:38
nvonMegaVolt: i have done that. and still nothing :-(08:39
MegaVolt:( not good08:39
sylvisjunbelievable08:40
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MegaVoltcan you pastebin your interfaces ?08:40
sylvisjnv is working08:40
sylvisjbut nvidia isn't08:40
sylvisjWtf08:40
sylvisjWtf-city08:40
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MegaVoltsylvisj: did you try the nvidia auto-setup tools? nvidia-glx-config or nvidia-xconfig08:41
sylvisjYeah08:41
snapok who wants to help me get beryl working?08:41
sylvisjanything using the nvidia driver gave me a dirty error08:41
nvonMegaVolt: i am on win now, but if i remember, it's auto eth0, static, 10.0.0.1 gateway: 10.0.0.138 mask: 255.0.0.008:41
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MegaVolt10.0.0.1 ? whats unusual08:41
hendausesben, it shows this Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux08:41
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MegaVolt-w+t08:41
RictooI'm on frozen-bubble, and I got a friend on, but he says he is on a server with 8 ppl08:42
hendausesben,  coz my ktorrent is 2.1 and i need the new one08:42
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Rictoobut there isn't a server with 8 people08:42
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Rictooare theyre different master servers?08:42
Rictoo:S08:42
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nvonMegaVolt: adsl modem is 10.0.0.138 so i set my comp to 10.0.0.108:42
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sylvisjholy jumping jesus this is aggrivating08:42
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Grahamsylvisj: You've just topped my list of wierd things to hear when joining an IRC channel.08:43
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dhornHey, does anyone know how to change the text color on kicker in elegant mode?08:43
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esbenhendaus: You are still on Edgy then. Time to upgrade?08:43
sylvisjGraham: A wine crash killed my nvidia08:43
sylvisjGraham: Expect to hear weird things fueled by anger08:44
hendausesben,  can u please give me the update link coz i am newbie on this08:44
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Grahamsylvisj: Have you tried restarting X?08:44
tmbgnvon, I'm having network issues as well. some sites time out that work from other computers. no idea why yet08:44
sylvisj. . .08:44
feldegastdhorn wish i knew, i'd change it08:44
sylvisjAbout 12 times08:44
sylvisjI had to switch to the nv driver to get it to work08:44
sylvisjnvidia driver died hard08:44
sylvisjor so it seems08:44
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dhornfeldegast: it's so annoying, I want a dark background but I can't get the text color to change08:45
esbenhendaus: 1) Start adept 2) Press the update buttom 3) Press the upgrade buttom. After either 2 or 3, a dialog should appear. Follow it08:45
olimiloanyone have any idea where i can get the latest version of bcm43xx-fwcutter for amd64? bcm43xx.berlios.de is offline08:45
GrahamHave a look through your xorg.conf file. Were you running the wine app as root?08:45
sylvisjxorg.conf looks fine. No, wine was not run as root.08:45
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GrahamWhat errors are you getting?08:45
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sylvisjone sec08:46
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nvoni upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??08:47
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wolferinehow can I get another app to release control of my webcam?08:48
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feldegastwolferine you can kill the app....08:48
nvonno answer : - (  thanks anyways. bye08:48
Grahamnvon:08:48
wolferinei dont know which is using it08:48
m0rrai finished installing kubuntu about 20 minutes ago. however, apt-get update fails with error 111 (yes, it is trying to connect to the official mirrors, not localhost or firewall)... i don't have any proxy software installed either, because i just installed it (tried removing them too just in case, but none of them were installed) i disabled ipv6 (yes, i restarted the computer after it). also, apt-get works fine under Debian. any ideas how to fix it?08:49
ubuntu_how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?08:49
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wolferinei want to reset the webcam08:49
feldegastnvon are you using dhcp? i'd try disabling that if you are08:49
sylvisjGraham: envy is cleaning driver install08:49
nvoni disabled dhcp. still nothing08:49
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GrahamWhy don't you be specific, you come in and say "my internet's not working" and you're telling us nothing useful.08:49
qsumy god, it seems that ubuntu/kubuntu feisty has a lot of bugs08:49
feldegastnvon can you ping localhost/your router?08:49
GrahamDon'y disable DHCP, if you've not got a static IP you need DHCP08:49
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ubuntu_how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?08:50
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qsuwith mount ubuntu_08:50
nvoncan ping localhost. router and inet only for the first few minutes. then i can't even ping router08:50
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ubuntu_not working08:50
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benbreadhey i'm doing a edgy to feisty upgrade using the upgrade tool, but download has stalled on fetching file 59 - what can i do?08:50
si^BluesKaj: which one?08:50
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feldegastcan you ping local host when you can't ping the router?08:51
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Grahamubuntu_: sudo mkdir /media/hda108:51
ubuntu_never had any luck upgrading to another version08:51
voicuubuntu_: sudo mount -t ext3/ntfs/etc /dev/hda1 /media/hda108:51
ubuntu_yes thank you08:51
nvonyes. can ping localhost always08:51
voicunote that /media/hda1 has to exist08:51
Grahamubuntu_: What he said.08:51
si^MegaVolt: BluesKaj: i tried that setting which arwen said same effect. after KDe is loaded all hangs i can only move mouse08:51
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ubuntu_yeah, thanks08:51
si^maybe it's conflict soundblaster with radeon? :/08:52
ubuntu_I nknow what it looks like, but dont know it by heart08:52
ubuntu_yet08:52
si^i hear kubuntu start sound and all freeze08:52
nvonfeldegast: yes. can ping localhost always08:52
sylvisjwait08:52
sylvisjone second08:53
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voicuubuntu_: man mount gives you more information. you can get help on any command that way08:53
ubuntu_oops, also, what is the command to find the address of my hard drive?08:53
sylvisjGraham: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error).08:53
ubuntu_just type in mount?08:53
voicuubuntu_: man mount08:53
voicuman stands for 'manual'08:54
m0rraor could my ip be banned from a repository? (i'm on an university campus and share this one with at least 500 other people)08:54
Grahamsylvisj: I'm thinking you should take it out and put it back in again.08:54
ubuntu_oh I thought you were saying     Man, mount is cool.  (slang)08:54
sylvisjthe card?08:54
ubuntu_I gotcha now08:54
m0rraand when i tried mplayer's repository, it worked. but ubuntu ones still give me error 11108:54
nvonbye all08:55
GrahamYes.08:55
sylvisj(EE) failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)08:55
sylvisjCard's fine on windows dude08:55
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voicuubuntu_: you could try 'ls /dev/hd*'. and see what partitions you have08:55
sylvisjwtf is wfb?08:55
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sylvisjI just noticed it08:55
bobbob1016anyone have bcm43** working in Feisty with wpa?08:55
wolferinehow can I get another app to release control of my webcam?08:55
beggihello08:55
Grahambobbob1016: No, use ndiswrapper08:55
Grahamsylvisj: I'm thinking that could be your problem.08:56
voicuubuntu_: or even better 'ls /dev/hd??'08:56
bobbob1016Graham: and it works with wpa?08:56
beggihello!!!!!!08:56
GrahamBut your xorg.conf file into pastebin08:56
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Grahambobbob1016: wpa?08:56
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bobbob1016Graham: wpa security on the wireless08:56
voicubegii: hello :)08:56
madmikegood morning er... afternoon here in ca08:56
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GrahamYes08:56
voicugood evening :D08:56
beggiim kinda new to linux08:56
beggihi08:56
GrahamWHAT!??08:57
Lam_will kubuntu live cd work fine if i burn it to a 4x cd-rw?08:57
ubuntu_hmmm08:57
Lam_i understand it'll be slower on load08:57
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GrahamLam_: Bullshit, it'll take ages to burn but it's the read speed that matters.08:57
beggifunny08:57
benbreadLam_: I burnt kubuntu to a cd-rw once and it didn't like it very much...08:57
voiculam_: if the cd reads it, it will work. the speed should be the same08:57
Grahambeggi: What do you want?08:58
ubuntu_4x is only burn speed08:58
GrahamThat's what I said!08:58
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ubuntu_the read speed is determind by your drive, however fast it is08:58
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voicuthis type of questions will never go away...08:59
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ubuntu_I dont see how it will load any slower08:59
Lam_oh really. ok i'll give that a try with the cd-rw then. thanks a lot for the input guys08:59
benbreadI've worked out the dist upgrade tool can't connect to some resp's - can i tell it to skip them or look someware else?08:59
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tmbgbenbread, edit /etc/apt/sources.list09:00
sylvisjGraham: http://pastebin.ca/45307409:00
benbreadtmbg: heh - i got that part, i just don't know what the other sources to use are :P09:00
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ubuntu_mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:01
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crackhead_25question: how can one know if one has flash player 9? how does one make sure to get/install flash player 9? (i've tried both the adobe flash player and the mozilla plugin from adept)09:01
benbreadcrackhead_25: are you using firefox?09:02
voicuubuntu_: if you mount something not in fstab you must put all the details. that is 'mount -t <file system> <device> <directory>'09:02
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Grahamsylvisj: Tried reinslalling all the nvidia packages on Adept?09:02
aroIs the resolution and aspect ratio of the display in the Live CD a reflection of how it's going to look after full installation?09:02
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sylvisjnope09:02
ubuntu_sorry, newbie here, that was in the clouds09:02
aroI ask because the Live CD isn't detecting the proper resolutions on my monitor09:02
thcmonkeykubuntu doesn't seem to allow me to resize my windows partition on install. anything i'm missing?09:02
crackhead_25firefox, yes09:02
m0rraso. where do i have to report, that a mirror is down?09:02
crackhead_25must i alter the self-identify of firefox? is it just not communicating that i have flash 9?09:02
benbreadaro: You should be able to change it through the system settings09:03
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crackhead_25benbread: why do you ask?09:03
arobenbread: I know, but the proper resolutions are not available there.09:03
Grahamcrackhead_25: One must point their browser to about:plugins09:03
benbreadcrackhead_25: When you visit a page needing flash plugin it should ask you if you want to install it, that's how i got Flash 909:03
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benbreadaro: What graphics card, and what resolution are you currently in?09:03
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arobenbread: Geforce 7600GT, 1152x864, but it's not allowing me to choose wide resolutions, my monitors aspet ratio is 16:909:04
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benbreadaro: You might need to reconfigure x09:05
arobenbread: This is a Live CD, do you think after full installation I will have better luck?09:05
adaptraro edit xorg.conf and enter the resolutions you want09:05
thcmonkeywhen i choose partition #1 and use freed space it tell me no root file system is defined09:05
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sylvisjGraham: doesn't even look like the nvidia module is loading09:06
sylvisjlsmod | grep nv shows nothing but libata and sata_nv09:06
m0rraThanks for no help, everyone. Well, at least I got mine fixed. Good luck to the rest of you, who might not be so lucky... (By the way, some of your mirrors are down.)09:06
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GrahamI don't know, my cards shit anyway.09:06
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GrahamI don't know much about other cards.09:07
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sylvisjwell09:07
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sylvisjthe driver module isn't loading09:07
arothcmonkey: click the partition, click edit partition, then designate the mount point as /09:07
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thcmonkeywill it delete my windows guff though?09:08
benbreadaro: You'll certainly have more luck fixing it09:08
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shawn34can't find the md5sums on ubuntu site? anyone know where they are?09:08
benbreador at least trying09:08
arothcmonkey: as long as you are using a partition that windows does not reside on09:08
GrahamSearch google for those modules it said it wasn't loading.09:08
arothcmonkey: do you have a separate partition just for linux setup?09:08
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snapthere anything like camtasia for linux?09:09
benbreadsnap: vncrec?09:10
thcmonkeynah you see, i thought i could do that on install09:10
arothcmonkey: you can make new partitions at install09:10
thcmonkeybut it seems not to allow me becuase windows is using all available space09:11
ubuntuKampioenen OLE OLE09:11
arothcmonkey: well, yea, you need free space09:11
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benbreadthcmonkey: Have you done a defrag on the windows partition?09:12
snapthanks benbread ill look for it09:12
thcmonkeybenbread: nah09:12
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benbreadthcmonkey: I seriously suggest you do - windows file systems generally have data spewed all over the place that might stop you from partitioning09:13
sylvisjgraham, reinstalled nvidia binaries09:13
sylvisjgonna reboot09:13
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sylvisjsomething will hopefully automagically fix09:13
GrahamWait09:13
thcmonkeycheers dude09:13
GrahamChange your driver to nvidia for the reboot.09:13
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sylvisjI did.09:13
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sylvisjI dont' even f*cking believe this, black screen.09:14
crackhead_25how do i know which installation path is the correct one for the firefox i have installed? i see a /lib/usr/mozilla, ../firefox, and ../mozilla-firefox.. ??09:14
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crackhead_25sylvisj: try alt + F6 or F7 or F8.. your Xorg may have shutdown, or you may need to switch to another instance09:15
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sylvisjxorg died, went to 109:16
sylvisjxorg is dying and I dunno wy09:16
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_StefanS_hmm anyone with fglrx and compiz/beryl working on feisty?09:17
_StefanS_can't get beryl-manager to work09:17
sylvisjthis makes no sense09:17
sylvisjthe log is fine09:18
sylvisjhmm09:18
sylvisjlast entry in the xorg log is (II) Initializing extension GLX09:18
sylvisjliterally nothing after09:18
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_StefanS_sylvisj: what driver? nvidia, fglrx, or open stuff?09:18
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sylvisjnvidia09:18
_StefanS_dmesg ?09:18
_StefanS_lsmod|grep nvidia ?09:19
_StefanS_maybe its not loaded correctly09:19
sylvisjnvidia 6837140 009:19
sylvisjagpart 35400 1 nvidia09:19
_StefanS_hum..09:19
_StefanS_sylvisj: are you using the restricted drivers ?09:19
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sylvisj[ 16.804000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.09:20
_StefanS_sylvisj: or did you download them yourself?09:20
sylvisjI'm trying nvidia's binaries09:20
Arwenwtf, fglrx can't do opengl and xvideo at the same time... now that's really lame09:20
_StefanS_sylvisj: thats normal09:20
_StefanS_Arwen: fglrx generally is lame.09:20
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_StefanS_Arwen: would rip it out if I had the possibility09:20
Arwen_StefanS_, yeah.... I need it to get 3d at acceptable levels though09:20
Arwenanyway, gonna test for the hibernate bug09:21
Arwenwill return09:21
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sylvisjthis is so damn annoying09:21
kalorinsylvisj: well, the ATI drivers aren't a lot less annoying09:21
si^aro:09:21
sc0tchI'm having some strange lockups upon disconencting usb devices from a feisty install on VMWare, is there a "safe" disconnect for usb devices? (like windows "eject" usb)09:21
_StefanS_sylvisj: you should install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic09:21
kalorinI've got an nvidia card at work and spent a good while trying to get it to work again09:21
si^ups09:21
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_StefanS_sc0tch: donno, but I have had no issues with that in the latest vmware 6.0rc109:21
sylvisj_StefanS_: , done, what now09:22
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widdeblub09:23
aroAm I allowed to use a USB drive for the root partition?09:23
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_StefanS_sylvisj: nvidia-settings, hmm can anyone help here ?09:23
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_StefanS_sylvisj: cant remember, but you need to prepare X to use that nvidia thing.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:23
qsustein09:24
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_StefanS_sylvisj: select nvidia in there, but I'm not sure09:24
_StefanS_sylvisj: btw, you need to reboot first.09:24
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_StefanS_sylvisj: search the ubuntuforums09:25
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_StefanS_aro: I'm not sure it will work as USB AFAIK not enabled until later in the boot09:26
_StefanS_anyone with a working beryl and fglrx?09:27
sylvisjberyl, yes, fglrx, fck ATi09:27
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sylvisjholy jesus09:29
_StefanS_sylvisj: ??09:29
sylvisjlightning just struck my lawn09:29
sylvisjand guassed my m onitor09:29
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ufukhii09:29
sylvisjand scared me shtless09:29
Last_Herohas anyone had trouble getting Thunderbird to connect to Hotmail?09:29
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sylvisjlightning gaussed my monitor09:30
sylvisjhwo many people can say that09:30
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Cable86how do i configure konversation to automatically identify me when i connect?09:30
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Last_Hero!thunderbird09:32
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042709:32
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tecie1980Is it possible to migrate a software RAID5 that's formatted ext3 in which all of the drives are intact to another system? I'd like to upgrade to the latest version of kubuntu but that sometimes requires me to reinstall the OS and I want to make sure I have a recovery plan.09:32
sylvisjok09:32
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sylvisjError: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9755. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version09:33
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dettoaltrimentiis there a standalone equalizer for ubuntu?09:35
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_StefanS_sylvisj: hey you should remove the old driver first09:38
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sylvisjI did >.<09:41
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snaphow do i switch between different desktops such as from gnome to KDE.....have both installed09:42
USMarinesnap X session in kdm09:42
blekosok, i have a rather silly question, why kcontrol isnt available as a menu but I had to search on the internet and find out that it exists?09:42
aroWhat's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?09:42
snapyoull have to be a lil more elaborate ......dunno what that is but thx09:42
blekoscertain option aren't available on the system settings09:43
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USMarinesnap browse the menus while you're in kdm09:43
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USMarineyou'll find it09:43
_StefanS_sylvisj: and you did install of the restricted drivers ?09:43
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_StefanS_snap: K-Menu -> System settings09:43
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snapK-menu?09:44
sylvisjif you meant that apt-get, yes09:44
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USMarineblekos you can always run kcontrol in a terminal09:44
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_StefanS_sylvisj: that was it, yes.09:44
USMarineif the shortcut is not avaiable09:44
aroWhat's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?09:44
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blekosi know and I do so, but would be better for newbies to have imediate access to it?09:45
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_StefanS_sylvisj: bottom left09:45
USMarineblekos the shortcut is created after the installation09:45
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_StefanS_snap: bottom left09:45
_StefanS_sylvisj: sorry not for you09:45
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blekossorry but i dont get ur point09:45
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snapi have a desktop button (im still in gnome)09:46
blekosi have a fresh install of Kubuntu, no shortcut for it in the kMenu09:46
sylvisj_StefanS_: that gives me the damned failed to load module "wfb" error09:46
Last_Heroanyone know why the defauly POP3 and IMAP ports would be blocked, stopping me from accessing my e-mail via Thunderbird?09:46
USMarinesystem settings09:46
USMarinecould be that too09:46
_StefanS_snap: err.. preferences ? :)09:46
_sledge_What's the tool called again that profiles disk activity when operating on batteries?09:46
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_StefanS_sylvisj: hmm oka. Let me find a guide for it. You're on feisty and kde , right ?09:47
USMarine_sledge_ power manager iirc09:47
DeckardJKcan anyone at all help me with a mouse question?  I'm running kubuntu 7.04.  In system settings changing the mouse acceleration doesn't do much.  The mouse just doesn't move across the screen fast enough for me09:47
sylvisjyes09:47
snapStef: i have stuff to change screen res under prefferences but nothing lets me switch from kde from gnome and back09:47
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_StefanS_DeckardJK: you're using a laptop I imagine ?09:47
DeckardJKstefan: yep09:48
_StefanS_DeckardJK: with multiple mouse like devices ? .. synaptic and usb mouse ?09:48
_StefanS_sylvisj: 2secs09:48
DeckardJKstefan:  I don't have multiple mice plugged in... I only want to use the touchpad09:48
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snapi did manage to get MT4 working under wine and i got networking working with windows boxes09:49
_StefanS_sylvisj: do sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic09:49
aroWhat's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?09:49
roguejedixErm, could anyone tell me why my DVDs won't mount?09:49
_StefanS_aro: wont the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic do it for you?09:49
snapbut for the life of me i cant find "system settings"09:49
aroIs that the one named "nv"09:49
_StefanS_snap: your're in gnome ?09:49
aroIn my xorg.conf09:49
snapyes setfan09:49
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snapstefan* sorry09:49
sylvisj_StefanS_: and now?09:50
aroIf so, no, because I cannot choose widescreen resolutions from System Settings09:50
_StefanS_sylvisj: reboot09:50
melkorIs there still a 'feisty' specific channel?09:50
_StefanS_aro: yes09:50
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sylvisj_StefanS_: now?09:50
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_StefanS_sylvisj: yes, to make sure they are not loaded anymore.09:51
snapwhen i had suse installed i could flip back and forth to 4 different x windows desktops point and click09:51
sylvisjI meant what now09:51
_StefanS_sylvisj: oka, did you reboot?09:51
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sylvisjyes09:51
melkorI just did the fiesty upgrade on my laptop and now it hangs when booting at 'configureing consol and keymap'09:51
melkorer my desktop09:51
_StefanS_sylvisj: : and it didn't complain, or tried to load the nvidia modules anymore, right ?  (dmesg, lsmod|grep nvidia09:52
Jacko2007I am trying to connect to the internet wirelessly but kubuntu isn't finding any devices09:52
_StefanS_DeckardJK: is that a synaptics?09:52
sylvisjnvidia modules not loaded09:52
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_StefanS_DeckardJK: is that a synaptics ? (dmesg|grep -i synaptics)09:52
melkorany suggestions, I can use a cd to get to the hard drive, but its an edgy cd.09:52
_StefanS_sylvisj: good. 2 secs.09:52
_StefanS_DeckardJK: there's a specific tool for tuning the touchpad09:53
DeckardJKstefan:  not exactly sure09:53
DeckardJKI ran that command and that didnt' return any results09:53
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Jacko2007StefanS: do you know how to get a my laptop to connect wirelessly when it;s not detecting a netowrk09:54
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_StefanS_sylvisj:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2909:54
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_StefanS_DeckardJK: oka, what laptop ? Dell ?09:55
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DeckardJKStefan:  yeah its is a dell 600m09:55
snapHoly Jumping jesus (thanks for that line sylv) i found it.......it is under system/preferences/preferred applications09:55
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_StefanS_Jacko2007: what wireless card do you have, and did you install the restricted drivers?09:56
Kubuntu_noobI can't use vi09:56
Kubuntu_noobdriving me crazy09:56
Kubuntu_noobhow do you type a 0 (zero)09:56
GrahamKubuntu_noob: original name, use nano09:56
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: hehe.. always the case first time you use vi.09:56
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snapoh no wait thats not it09:56
_StefanS_nano is better09:56
blekoshow is it possible in gnome to be able to set alt+shift to change language and KDE not to accept it?09:56
_StefanS_for newbies ;)09:56
Kubuntu_noobcase?09:57
_StefanS_DeckardJK: checking the specs09:57
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DeckardJKstefan:  thanks a lot09:57
WannabeNewbieI have lost all sound, can anyone help me? I was messing around with the settings on KMIX and then bam! no sound, and I can't seem to get it back.09:57
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_StefanS_DeckardJK: seems like its an Alps Glidepoint09:57
TheCreationistIs anyone else having a problem with sound in Feisty?  I've tried all the troubleshooting tips I could find and still have no sound...09:58
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WannabeNewbieTheCreationist: I have no sound either09:58
ober0neI like how busy this channel always is09:58
_StefanS_DeckardJK: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad09:58
_StefanS_ober0ne: its busy alright09:58
_StefanS_TheCreationist: what soundcard?09:59
melkorIf I use a cd and 'rescue a broken system' then I get to a root shell on my original hard drive ... what would apt-get do?  Modify my system or ?09:59
TheCreationist_StefanS_: It's an onboard (Intel ICH5, I believe)09:59
DeckardJKstefan:  thanks much... I'll read things over and see if I can't tweak things09:59
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WannabeNewbieAnd I am using Nvidia09:59
TheCreationist_StefanS_: It is detected properly by aplay and the mixer...09:59
braveheartlionXPI'm currently on the WinXP computer that I want to instnall ubuntu 7.04 on. I don't want to waste a(nother) CD to burn an ISO to. Is there a way I could somehowe install Ubuntu directly on this computer, without using a CD?09:59
sylvisji know this is pretty off topic, but how do I get amarok to play mp3s? :(09:59
_StefanS_TheCreationist: have you unmuted it in the alsamixer?09:59
ober0neso anybody else ever have trouble installing vlc on dapper?09:59
TheCreationist_StefanS_: Of course :P10:00
_StefanS_TheCreationist: I myself have forgotten that alot of times ;)10:00
WannabeNewbiesylvisj: I got it to play mp3 by using synaptic manager, install all drivers10:00
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WannabeNewbiesylvisj: plugins rather10:01
_StefanS_TheCreationist: does the system settings -> notifications play at all ?10:01
TheCreationist_StefanS_: I'm actually in Gnome right now, but I've done the "Test Sound" button in KDE without any luck.10:02
WannabeNewbieStefanS: I am having similar issue, I have absolutely no sound.10:02
=== _StefanS_ wants to help, but cant really figure out that sound issue.
_StefanS_sorry10:02
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_StefanS_sylvisj: did you get nvidia drivers installed yet ?10:02
sylvisjstill working on it10:02
TheCreationist_StefanS_: It's alright... I haven't seen ANY forum posts or talk in here of anyone figuring it out... but I've seen a LOT of people with the same problem since upgrading to Feisty.10:03
_StefanS_sylvisj: oka, this might help aswell: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html#more-14110:03
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TheCreationistbrb... I can't stand gnome... gonna switch to KDE.10:03
WannabeNewbieTheCreationist: Mine was working until I messed with Kmix, then nothing. But no matter what I do in kmix now, seems to fix it10:03
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TheCreationistahh... much better10:04
Kubuntu_noobAnybody have a ThinkPad 600E?10:04
WannabeNewbiedid you get it to work?10:04
Kubuntu_noobOr near to it?10:04
_StefanS_TheCreationist: thats really wierd, I have not had any issues with my two laptops at all. Just for the fun of it, have you tried renaming ~/.kde to see if its some settings thats corrupted ?10:04
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_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: I guess a T60p is not close enough ;)10:04
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Kubuntu_noobyes would be10:05
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: have a T42 also though..10:05
Kubuntu_noobI can't get sound to work10:05
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WannabeNewbieis there a command one can put into Konsole that will force the sound driver to default?10:05
_StefanS_argh.. more sound stuff :)10:05
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Kubuntu_noobYou have cs4236 sound chips or whatever?10:05
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ober0ne_StefanS_: I have a non-sound related problem... if you'd like a change ^_^10:05
_StefanS_WannabeNewbie: just try renaming your .kde directory in your homefolder and login again10:05
_StefanS_ober0ne: please :)10:06
ober0nelol10:06
JagerXanyone know how to turn the tooltips off?10:06
Kubuntu_noobMy sound doesn't work at all since install kubuntu alternate10:06
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: nope ICH7..10:06
Kubuntu_noobsoundchips?10:06
Kubuntu_noobICH7 ?10:06
ober0necan't seem to install any packages... my system is afraid I will break it10:06
TheCreationist_StefanS_: I doubt it's a ~/.kde issue... it doesn't work in gnome either.10:06
ober0nebloody paranoid, it seems10:06
_StefanS_TheCreationist: oh, I wasn't aware of that.10:06
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TheCreationistober0ne: lol... what does it tell you?10:06
WannabeNewbieStefanS: That is beyond my ability, I'm fairly new to this and obviously have made a simple mistake into more than it should be...LOL!10:06
=== _StefanS_ will not answer more sound related stuff :D
ober0neermm... hold on - I will check it out10:07
Kubuntu_noobbummer10:07
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_StefanS_argh :)10:07
WannabeNewbieLMAO! Your right10:07
_StefanS_Atleast I try :)10:07
WannabeNewbieThat you have10:07
TheCreationist_StefanS_: Thanks for trying, at least ;)10:07
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melkorls10:08
tmbgok this is getting seriously annoying. on feisty all of the network applications time out. I've rebooted this machine, the router, etc. everything can resolve, but it times out after that.10:08
tmbgthe only sites I can get to are ones that I've been to before that are bookmarked like google.10:08
_StefanS_Well I actually managed to get sound working on a EPIA EX board in feisty... thats some achievement10:08
ober0ne_StefanS_: "There was an error committing changes. It's possible that  there was an error downloading some of the packages, or  that the commit would break other packages"10:08
ober0neI'm on dapper, btw10:08
_StefanS_ober0ne: ok you could fix that probably doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a10:09
ober0newill try10:09
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WannabeNewbieTrying it now10:09
_StefanS_ober0ne: then it should continue, and you can check the logfile in /var/log/dpkg10:09
_StefanS_ober0ne: I always avoid adept for that reason .. it doesn't really give a whole lot of information :)10:10
ober0nedo I want to allow system wide readable home directories?10:10
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WannabeNewbieyes10:10
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TheCreationistHey... will deleting entried from the K menu also remove them from the menus in gnome?10:11
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WannabeNewbieupto you really10:11
makiwhen i try to upgrade it give's me this The following packages have been kept back:amarok amarok-xine k3b kaffeine libavcodec0d skype10:11
_StefanS_TheCreationist: dont know.10:11
_StefanS_maki: you're missing a dependency package10:11
ober0nesee, mainly I want VLC... but it gives me that error message when I try to install anything10:11
_StefanS_ober0ne: did you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first ?10:12
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ober0neI don't remember... I know I have done that in the last few days, but I've also done a fresh install10:12
_StefanS_maki: try install one at a time to see which one is wrong10:12
_StefanS_ober0ne: doesn't hurt to do it again.10:13
ober0neok10:13
makii make dist-upgrade now10:13
_StefanS_maki: ah, and you added some more repositories ?10:13
makiyes10:14
_StefanS_maki: oka you should use medibuntu, did you add that ?10:14
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makii have the repos from the wiki10:14
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ubuntu_mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:14
makiand i add 3 repos from a local server10:14
ubuntu_what am I doing wrong?10:14
ubuntu_I am trying to access my HDD via live cd10:15
sylvisjok10:15
sylvisjI found the issue10:15
sylvisjit's trying to use legacy drivers10:15
sylvisjHow do I purge all apt files?10:15
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Lars_Ghello ALL10:15
sylvisjall things downloaded by apt anyway10:15
Lars_Ghehehe :(10:15
Lam_what package do i need to make deb files from source files?10:16
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_StefanS_sylvisj: sudo apt-get autoremove10:16
Kubuntu_noobcan any help with basic script to run at startup10:16
Lars_GAnyhow, I'm trying to get the kubuntu dvd iso with bittorrent (feisty love) but every time it finishes (I use ktorrent) I manually run a "check data integrity" and it always finds from 400 to 600 incorrect blocks and starts redownloading10:16
Lars_Gis someone feeding broken blocks into the stream, or what10:16
Kubuntu_noobi got started in /.kde/Autostart chmod +x10:17
Kubuntu_noobbut it doesn't do what in the file10:17
ubuntu_mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:17
Lars_GAnd please what's the md5 on the i386 kubuntu feisty dvd iso? so I can double check10:17
ubuntu_I am trying to access my HDD via live cd10:17
ubuntu_what am I doing wrong?10:17
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Lars_Gubuntu_: if it's a primary master, try hda1 not hdb110:17
ober0ne_StefanS_: sudo update thing output: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:17
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Lars_Gubotu: if the hdd is there, try with sudo.10:18
_StefanS_ober0ne: ah that might be some of the trouble10:18
Lars_GGAH10:18
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ubuntu_still no go10:18
ubuntu_ok10:18
ober0neso what can I do?10:18
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_StefanS_ober0ne: just remove the country in front of the repos in the sources.list10:18
_StefanS_ober0ne: might help10:18
ubuntu_still nothing10:18
_StefanS_ubuntu_: dmesg|grep hd10:19
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: dmesg|grep sd10:19
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: that should reveal any available drives10:19
ubuntu_both commands?10:19
Kubuntu_noobhelp10:19
_StefanS_ubuntu_: yes10:20
ubuntu_wow yea, that get all the info10:20
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: see if you can identify the drive there10:20
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: might be named sda1 or something10:20
Kubuntu_noobhow do I begin line 2 in a #!/bin/sh script?10:21
ober0neok, trying that10:21
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: shift+a <enter>10:21
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: that will leave you in insert mode10:21
Kubuntu_noobI mean just <command>10:21
Kubuntu_noobor does each line begin with something specail10:21
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: esc+i to go into insert mode10:21
Kubuntu_noobthen how do I make my script Columbia.sh run to test it10:22
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_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: only the first line is like that because it tells the shell what to run10:22
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ober0ne_StefanS_: still the same error10:22
blixterHi! I have KDE installed now and i want to install Gnome on it using a Alternate CD. How do i do that?10:22
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_StefanS_ober0ne: do you even have internet access ? :D10:22
Kubuntu_noobso line 2 might be exactly "iwconfig ath0 mode Managed"10:23
makuseru!dialup10:23
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:23
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_StefanS_blixter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? :)10:23
ober0nelol, I should... bell told me I downloaded 350GB last month when I was using microsod products10:23
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: yes.10:23
blixterok10:23
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_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: then make it executeable afterwards chmod +x Columbia.sh10:23
Kubuntu_noobok how do I get it to run   allready did chmod +x Columbia.sh10:23
makuseru!kppdialup10:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kppdialup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
_StefanS_Kubuntu_noob: ./Columbia.sh10:24
tmbgsomeone msg me if they have the slightest clue how to fix my feisty network woes. thanks.10:24
makuseru!kpp10:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
_StefanS_tmbg: what was the issues ?10:24
tmbgI can't connect to half of the web sites out there.10:24
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tmbggaim can't connect to yahoo10:24
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_StefanS_tmbg: wrong dns ?10:24
ubuntu_67.779353]  hdb: ST3250823A, ATA DISK drive10:24
tmbgadept updater can't finish the updates, times out.10:24
ubuntu_isnt that a slave drive?10:25
tmbgI checked dns, works. and when I resolve from a different machine and then plug in that ip, it still times out.10:25
_StefanS_ubuntu_: yes should be10:25
ubuntu_I only have one drive installed10:25
ubuntu_why is tha?10:25
_StefanS_tmbg: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller10:25
_StefanS_sorry10:25
_StefanS_ubuntu: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller10:25
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ober0ne:D10:26
_StefanS_tmbg: seems like you have local  issue10:26
_StefanS_ober0ne: already have that ;)10:26
ubuntu_I'm a newbie, it's not healthy to get this confused10:26
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ober0neheh... I don't have any coffee yet10:26
ubuntu_lol10:26
tmbgthe weird bit is when I connect from my router (openbsd sparcstation) everything works fine.10:26
tmbgthe only part that changed was upgrading to feisty10:26
_StefanS_tmbg: have you tried an open dns of some sort ?10:27
tmbgtried rebooting feisty, obsd, nothing. still broken.10:27
ubuntu_feisty still to buggy10:27
_StefanS_ubuntu_: in what respect?10:27
ubuntu_most people I talk to doesnt reccomend upgrading to it10:28
tmbg_StefanS_, the dhcpd on the obsd machine passes the same dns it  uses to the clients, the feisty box is using the very same dns server.10:28
GrahamI do.10:28
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tmbgit can resolve IP's no problem.10:28
ubuntu_really?10:28
oliver_hello10:28
GrahamFiesty hasn't given me one problem yet.10:28
tmbgit times out when I try to connect to servers.10:28
blekosdoes anybody know the combination to switch to tty4 etc10:28
ubuntu_wow, your the first I have heard say that10:28
_StefanS_ubuntu_: gues it depends who you are, and what you need10:28
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ubuntu_yeah, true10:28
GrahamMy hardware is old and shit though10:28
tmbgwell I need my damn network to work.10:28
tmbgand it doesn't10:29
GrahamType of network?10:29
_StefanS_Graham: mine is new shit, and still works fine.10:29
ubuntu_what do you consider old?10:29
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_StefanS_tmbg: are you using some kind of wireless ?10:29
GrahamI consider 6 years old.10:29
oliver_when I am trying to connect to a wireless network it says Configuring device and then fails what should I do10:29
tmbgall hard wired.10:29
GrahamIn respects to PC hardware.10:29
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_StefanS_tmbg: duplex issue ??10:29
dopehey buddies10:29
tmbgxover cable into the sparcstation, out of that into the cable modem.10:29
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ubuntu_ok, no arguement here10:30
tmbgpossibly. how do I c heck duplex? it's not in ifconfig that I can see10:30
_StefanS_tmbg: just guessing, that usually causes wierd problems10:30
ubuntu_lol10:30
dopei got a laptop and 6.10 kubuntu had a hard time with wpa.  ultimately it never worked.  is feisty better with that?10:30
_StefanS_tmbg: what driver?10:30
ober0ne*sigh* how did I get the only buggy version of dapper?10:30
tmbgit's an nforce4 onboard ethernet10:30
Grahamdope: Yes, I recommend you upgrade.10:30
_StefanS_dope: I use wpa and wpa2 on two laptops, dell and ibm10:30
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ubuntu_I ahve heard that  is leaps and bounds over dapper10:30
_StefanS_dope: a whole lot of stuff happened to networkmanager in feisty10:30
GrahamInfact WPA didn't give me any problems on Edgy.10:30
ubuntu_I have dapper and want to leap and bound10:30
_StefanS_Graham: worked for my too10:31
ober0nelol, me too10:31
tmbgthe obsd sparcstation side is connected at full duplex.10:31
dopeGraham: teach me to get it to work plz10:31
_StefanS_ober0ne: why dont you upgrade that to feisty or something?10:31
dopeGraham: maybe it's just my wireless card crap!10:31
ober0neI'm going to, as soon as I get the cd10:31
GrahamMaybe if you told me what it was I could help.10:31
_StefanS_dope: most wireless cards are crap.10:31
ubuntu_still need help with my HDD, cant get it mounted10:31
_StefanS_dope: thats why they're cheap.10:31
tmbg_StefanS_, forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.59.10:31
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_StefanS_tmbg: ah ok, try using ethertool10:32
tmbg?10:32
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_StefanS_tmbg: or miiconfig10:32
dopeGraham: i got an averatec 2370.  not sure what the card is10:32
dopeGraham: i believe the driver name starts with a rt10:32
dope:D10:32
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GrahamSorry, that's a failure.10:33
ober0ne_StefanS_: I tried to download and burn the iso of feisty from dapper, and it doesn't want to10:33
dopei'm a failure? :O10:33
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GrahamWhats it's chip?10:33
dopethat's what she said!10:33
dopelemme look10:33
_StefanS_ober0ne: nothing really works in your end I see :D10:33
GrahamDo lspci10:33
dopei'm in windows right now10:33
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ober0nethat's what it feels like10:33
GrahamIs it a PCI card?10:33
tmbg_StefanS_, I don't have ethertool or miiconfig. I have mii-diag and mii-tool. do you mean one of these?10:33
dopeit's a rittle raptop10:33
_StefanS_tmbg: yep that was them10:33
tmbgdon't ask me to download anything or use apt, because it will time out.10:34
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_StefanS_tmbg: seems like mii-tool will do it for the nforce network driver10:34
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akIra83hi10:35
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tmbgsudo mii-tool \ SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported \ no MII interfaces found10:35
beauhi all i just downloaded a new window decoration ok its in archive format..where do i extract it to to make it useable?10:35
ubuntu_!pastebin10:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:35
enemyzIm having trouble installing feisty. Im currently using Hoary Hedgehog and tryed to upgrade to feisrty, but I kinda killed the xserver in the process :P,10:36
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ubuntu_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17114/10:36
akIra83i have a notebook with a touchpad, and every 7-8 seconds the mouse is frozen (<1sec) anyone have an idear ?10:36
ubuntu_somebody tell me what command I need to mount this HDD10:36
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beaumnt10:36
ubuntu_seeing the link provided above10:36
beauor mount10:36
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: mkdir /tmp/hdb1 && mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb110:37
enemyzanyway, my computer cant read the boot CD I make from the feisty iso. I tryed w differnet CDs. Anyone else having this problem, or is a problem with my burner?10:37
_StefanS_ubuntu_: sudo before that10:38
_StefanS_tmbg: seems the nforce ethernet driver is not very supported on mii-tool10:38
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tmbgsigh. networking worked fine on edgy.10:38
tmbgnow I can't even get to cnn.com10:39
_StefanS_tmbg: uhm.. dont know, sorry.10:40
tmbgbut I can to google.com or places i've been before. it's really weird. I can resolve cnn.com, but I can't go there, it times out10:40
_StefanS_ubuntu_: do you already have an installation of linux ?10:40
tmbgyeah it's an odd problem. incredibly frustrating, odd, problem.10:40
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_StefanS_tmbg: does regular downloads work ?10:41
enemyztmbg: can you "dig" the adresses?10:41
dopeyea i've no idea what my wireless card is10:41
enemyzof the pages that doont load?10:42
tmbg_StefanS_, huh? enemyz: just a second.10:42
snaphmm i thought i had switched to kde but it only made the login screen blue and pretty.......then put the old orange gnome desktop over it.......i dont get it10:42
tmbgenemyz, yes.10:42
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enemyztmdg: but the browser dont load them?10:42
enemyztmdg: try timing the dig..10:43
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ober0neis there a utility for extracting rar files in Kubuntu?10:43
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_StefanS_ober0ne: unrar ? :)10:43
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tmbgbrowser times out, gaim times out for yahoo, adept updater times out10:43
ober0newell, that's what I want to do... yes... is there a utility?10:43
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ubuntu__StefanS_: yes I do...  Dapper10:43
tmbgtiming dig? when I type it, it comes back instantly. what do you mean?10:43
Cosmo_on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?10:44
_StefanS_ubuntu_: oka and you have a harddrive on usb also ?10:44
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ubuntu__StefanS_:  no, I am on a live cd trying to access my HDD10:45
_StefanS_ubuntu_: did you try that command I sent you ?10:45
ubuntu_yes10:45
_StefanS_ubuntu_: yes I know that.10:45
ubuntu_didnt work10:45
_StefanS_ubuntu_: 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb1' doesn't work ?10:45
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_StefanS_ubuntu_: pastebin the results10:46
tmbgok, this is really weird. I try to ftp to ftp.freebsd.org to test and get this: ftp> ls \ 550 Data connection must go to same host as control connection. \ ftp: bind: Address already in use10:46
_StefanS_tmbg: I think you have duplicate ip10:46
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_StefanS_tmbg: but not sure ofcourse10:46
ubuntu_mount: mount point /tmp/hdb1 does not exist10:46
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sylvisjI've never been so happy to see a 22,000 glxgear score in my life10:46
_StefanS_ubuntu_: good, do: 'sudo mkdir /tmp/hdb1'10:47
_StefanS_ubuntu_: and then the previous command again10:47
_StefanS_sylvisj: you got it working ? :)10:47
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tmbgthere are just the two machines on the network. the obsd router and the feisty desktop10:47
tmbgrouter is 10.1 desktop is 10.1010:47
cornelinuxHello, how can I change the look and feel og the login mask?10:47
_StefanS_tmbg: netmask 255.255.255.0 ?10:47
sylvisj_StefanS_: Nope, I can get 22,000 glxgears scores from terminal :P Yep, thank you VERY much10:48
ubuntu_ooo, look like it did something10:48
_StefanS_sylvisj: no problem10:48
ubuntu_yes, it worked10:48
ubuntu_thank you10:48
_StefanS_cornelinux: there's a thememanager for that10:48
tmbgyes. netmask on both is /2410:49
_StefanS_ubuntu_: :)10:49
ubuntu__StefanS_: that worked, thank you.10:49
_StefanS_ubuntu_: remember to umount /dev/hdb1 before rebooting !10:49
cornelinux_StefanS_: I tried to change it in kcontrol, but is stays the same10:49
_StefanS_cornelinux: uhm ok, are you using gdm or kdm ?10:49
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_StefanS_tmbg: freakin' weird I say10:49
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tmbgtell me about it.10:50
_StefanS_tmbg: whats the firewall on the obsd box?10:50
ubuntu_would you recommend Feisty over Edgy (other than the knowledge of it being newer)10:50
_StefanS_tmbg: I have a freebsd with monowall and it works fine10:50
cornelinux_StefanS_: Using the original kubuntu kdm10:50
tmbgpf. I verified it's operating correctly.10:50
_StefanS_ubuntu_: yes definitely10:50
tmbgI haven't changed anything at all on the obsd machine. only change was 'upgrade' to feisty10:50
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ubuntu_hmmmm, even for me that has to have help for little stuff like this mounting crap?10:51
_StefanS_ubuntu_: well normally you would just click next and so on for installation.10:51
_StefanS_ubuntu_: seems more like you were in a rescue-cd mode there10:51
_StefanS_ubuntu_: because that what one would do to access the hd if you have a broken system.10:52
Cosmo_on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?10:52
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ubuntu_oh no i can install no problem10:52
sound_fxI just upgraded to Feisty, and there is this upward scrolling black garbage that appears on my screen. I can still see everything, it is just annoying. Any suggestions?10:52
mazzohY ALL10:52
_StefanS_sound_fx: so the usplash doesnt work for you ?10:52
_StefanS_sound_fx: append quiet to the kernel boot parameters10:53
ubuntu_oh never mind, I'll try it10:53
melkorfeisty wont boot up, when I do an apt-get install -f it has a list of problems any suggestions10:53
sylvisjBeryl mauls my fps10:53
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sylvisjfrom 22k to 7k in glxgears :(10:53
_StefanS_sylvisj: beryl is still alpha stuff :D10:53
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sound_fx_StefanS_ do that in grub, right?10:54
sylvisjI know10:54
sylvisjbut I'm still a beryl addict10:54
_StefanS_sound_fx: well yep10:54
sound_fxok10:54
_StefanS_sound_fx: but the boot logo should be there default, did you remove it ?10:54
_StefanS_cornelinux: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=2212010:55
_StefanS_cornelinux: dont know if that will help10:55
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sound_fx_StefanS_: I have a boot logo, and I boot fine into Kubuntu, just on my screen there is this constant garbage... Looks like flickering black text scrolling up in the middle of my screen.10:55
_StefanS_cornelinux: I remember using it before where it worked just fine10:55
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_StefanS_sound_fx: ah, well maybe your graphics adapter is not too well supported10:56
_StefanS_sound_fx: did you install the nvidia/ati drivers?10:56
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sound_fx_StefanS_: I didn't have this problem before upgrading to Feisty.10:57
_StefanS_sound_fx: well I heard that alot today. Why did you upgrade ? :)10:57
_StefanS_sound_fx: just kidding.. it should work10:57
Admiral_Chicagodpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?10:57
Admiral_Chicagoerr, did that command help at all?10:57
_StefanS_sound_fx: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel10:57
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg...10:57
cornelinux_StefanS_ Well but it is already configurable in KDE. In KControl->System->Login-Manager. It works in a normal KDE i.e. under any distribution. Only kubuntu seems to disable changing the look and feel of the Login Window10:57
apuswhats the kde ftp client10:58
Kyralapus: Konq has a built in client10:58
_StefanS_cornelinux: please file a bug on launchpad then10:58
apuskyral is it as good as filezilla10:58
sound_fxAdmiral_Chicago: I believe I tried that already, it didn't seem to help.10:58
Kyralapus: I dunno, I never used filezilla10:58
mefisto__I just upgraded to feisty, and can't keep kicker from crashing. Anybody have any suggestions?10:58
_StefanS_mefisto__: tried removing kickerrc ?10:59
cornelinux_StefanS_ I won't do this since I do not want to generate an account to be able to issue a request :(10:59
apuskyral filezilla is flawless10:59
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Kyralapus: Flawless is in the eye of the user :P10:59
_StefanS_cornelinux: try to ask in #kubuntu-devel then10:59
mefisto___StefanS_: no. Where do I find it?10:59
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_StefanS_mefisto__: ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc11:00
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ubuntu_where is the mozzila folder usualy at? (trying to backup bookmarks)11:00
_StefanS_mefisto__: if that doesn't work try renaming your ~/.kde directory11:00
Kyralubuntu_: ~/.mozilla11:00
Skrothi, is adept_manager the only graphical software for package installation in kubuntu feisty?11:00
cornelinux_StefanS_ OK, thanks11:00
_StefanS_ubuntu_: locate is your friend11:00
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_StefanS_cornelinux: try Riddell in there11:00
Skrotnevermind11:01
_StefanS_Skrot: synaptic is also one alternative11:01
insmodi installed the kubuntu and it killed my laptop mouse pad -- the mouse won't work with any live cd or install -- any ideas?11:01
KyralOr just use Apt-Get from the command line...11:01
_StefanS_insmod: what laptop ?11:01
ubuntu_wow, didnt know that was a command11:01
peanutbI am trying to install Kubuntu alternate on a Hp laptop (about 5 years old, 256mb ram) and it keeps halting just before detecting the keyboard layout11:01
insmod_StefanS_: acer11:01
ubuntu_sweet11:01
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cornelinux_SefanS_ thx11:02
Kyralubuntu_: No need to ask locate, I told you were it is11:02
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ubuntu_I know, I just learned a command though11:02
Riddell_StefanS_: yours https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10906111:02
_StefanS_insmod: well I probably need a little more than that to help you :)11:02
ubuntu_:o)11:02
insmod_StefanS_: acer travelmate 248011:03
KyralBTW using slocate is a little more secure in practice11:03
_StefanS_Riddell: oh there you were :)11:03
_StefanS_Riddell: I will look into it, along with the mail you sent11:03
ubuntu_hmm, ok,  what is the s for?11:03
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blekoshi i cannot add any policy to firestarter any ideas?11:04
sound_fx_StefanS_: Well, noone seems to be active on the #kubuntu-devel, you recommended I get the ati drivers?11:04
ubuntu_The file or folder ~/.mozzila does not exist.11:04
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_StefanS_sound_fx: you could try that yes11:04
apusdoes anyone here use xbc11:05
_StefanS_insmod: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_TravelMate_2480, I think its a synaptic touchpad. Check dmesg|grep -i synaptic11:05
apusxbmc11:05
_StefanS_ubuntu_: ~/.mozilla11:05
_StefanS_apus: did once11:05
apus_StefanS_: do you remember the default ftp login11:06
_StefanS_apus: oh...11:06
_StefanS_apus: hmm11:06
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etalliWhat do I need to add to my xorg.conf file to get a 1280x800 resolution?11:06
slow-motionn811:06
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_StefanS_apus:xbox :D11:06
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_StefanS_apus: http://www.command-tab.com/2006/12/21/mac-meet-xbox-part-3/11:06
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mefisto___StefanS_: tried renaming kickerrc, then tried renaming ~/.kde but kicker still crashes11:07
insmod_StefanS_: any idea ?11:07
_StefanS_mefisto__: sorry donno11:07
apus_StefanS_: thats what i was afraid of11:07
_StefanS_etalli: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:07
_StefanS_etalli: enable the resolutions in there11:08
_StefanS_insmod: check if its detected in the dmesg|grep synaptic11:08
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_StefanS_gotta go to bed now11:08
_StefanS_good night.11:09
etalliThanks11:09
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apusi thought this was supose to be a stable os11:10
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ian_riiight11:11
KyralCompared to XP.....11:11
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ian_my xorg.conf just shagged itself11:11
apuskyral, Im having more problems with this than xp11:12
apusopen office doesn't even work11:12
Kyralapus: How long have you been using Linux? :P11:12
apuskyral: on my box a week, at work, 3 years11:12
Kyralmkay never mind11:12
insmod_StefanS_: nothing11:12
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KyralTry another distro?11:12
ian_Kyral: whats the command to re-run the nvidia x11 config setter upper :D11:12
apusits the software not the distro11:13
Kyralsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:13
Kyralapus: Stability can change across distros11:13
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KyralOO.org 2.2 runs fine here on Arch11:13
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apuskyral I have a particular document that crashes oog11:13
KyralIf its that ONE document11:14
Kyralwhat does that tell you? :P11:14
apusit opens in ms office11:14
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KyralIs it a .doc?11:14
apusyes11:14
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KyralThen of COURSE it opens in MS Office!11:14
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apusmy optical output doesn't work, even though it sees my card correctly11:14
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KyralTo me half the fun of Linux is that nothing is certain11:15
apusI can't access any mouse settings, so I cant map the buttons to do what I want (forward back in firefox for example)11:15
KyralSo everyday there is a chance I'll learn something new11:15
apusberyl doesn't display the matlab window correclty11:15
KyralDoes Matlab use Java?11:15
ejmis there a way to start the old-school installer on the ubuntu cds, or do I have to download the alternative cd?11:15
apusno11:15
apuskopete doesn't let me add myself to my buddy list11:16
Kyralhmm I was about to say, Swing doesn't like Beryl11:16
apusthere is no peergaurdian .... whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyy11:16
Kyralapus: You have two options11:16
KyralPeergaurdian?11:16
apusonly 2?11:16
Kyral?????11:16
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KyralWhat11:16
apusgoogle it11:16
Kyral.......11:16
Kyral...........11:16
apus.............11:17
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apusejm, not that I know of11:17
apusouch11:17
ejmok11:17
apusejm why do you need the alternate install11:17
apuskyral why?11:17
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zblachI'm sure it's just a setting somewhere, but I get an extract right-click menu for .tgz and .zip, how do I add one for rar archives?11:18
ejmI'm not sure. I got a grub error 17 when installing ubuntu,.11:18
ejmwhen actually, the installer quit about 83%, and it balied out on me.11:18
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ejmno errors or anything.11:18
KyralWhy what?11:18
apuswalk away11:18
KyralI wanted to know what it was b/c if it was some Windows only thing...11:18
zblachejm: grub error 17 != no errors11:18
apusits a windows only thing that SHOULD be on linux11:18
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ejmwhat's that mean?11:18
apusthe project was closed for some reason11:18
Kyralapus: Then it ain't our fault11:19
zblachejm: grub error 17 means a corruption of the boot partition.11:19
KyralIf something is Windows only we can't do jack **** about it11:19
ejmok11:19
ejmI got it.11:19
apushttp://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/11:19
Shaddoxcept hope it's open source and hope someone knows how to port it ^^11:19
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KyralIt's open source..I looked on the Wikipedia page11:19
KyralNow its a matter if anyone wants to do it11:19
etalliMy monitor's native resolution is not listed under the list for resolutions.  What do I need to add to my xorg.conf file to have a 1280x800 resolution?11:20
KyralInteresting license choice11:20
Kyral!fixres11:20
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:20
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KyralGPL or the ZLib/libpng license?11:20
ubuntu_anyone know where the bookmarks are saved in firefox?/11:20
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Kyralubuntu_: .firefox something11:20
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apusmaybe it can run in wine?11:21
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apuswill it still have access to the low level nic functions like ip blocking11:21
Kyralapus: and I walked away so I wouldn't go into BOFH mode11:21
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apusbofh?11:21
zblachhow can I add commands to a right-click menu?11:21
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zblachi.e. Extract to rar archives11:21
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KyralBastard Operator From Hell: Aka the Anti-Help11:22
leleobhzsomeone know if kubuntu DVD can be burned in DAO mode?11:22
apusso if I fix all those things I mentioned, it would be much better11:22
apuslike, moust driver that works11:22
apusmouse*11:22
Kyralapus: Then find out how to fix them. Search forums, consult documentation11:22
apussame with sound card, although I am impressed that with no driver install that the sound card even works11:22
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adaptroh there's a driver11:23
adaptrlsmod | grep snd11:23
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apusmy onboad lan, my soundcard, and my mobo require manually installed drivers in windows11:23
KyralPeople who are experianced with Linux don't keep it all in their heads. We just bookmark the documentation :D11:23
apusbut I dont even know where to go for that stuff11:23
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KyralGoogle ;P11:24
ejmdon't you love it when you forget to copy all your files you need before you blow everything?11:24
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zblachi lost many gig of 'documents' a few times doing that11:25
adaptrapus learn a few tools early, and they will save your bacon every time: lsmod, lspci, dmesg11:25
Kyralgrep....11:25
ejmmakewhatis11:25
zblach|11:26
BluesKajyeah, how's the grep command work?11:26
Kyralthat's usually already setup as a cronjob no?11:26
apuswhat tools are those11:26
Kyral...anyone have a link to my old Terminal For Beginners?11:26
apusso when the manufacturer has no drivers, then what11:26
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adaptrthen you look at the kernel drivers - in fact, you look there FIRST11:26
Kyralhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885&highlight=Terminal+For+Beginners11:26
ejmDo yourself a big favor (and I mean it in a good way, not in a mean way), and see if the local college offers a linux course you could take.11:27
adaptrBluesKaj it works very well, thank you11:27
Kyralapus: Read that link11:27
Kyral(Actually anyone who wants a primer to the shell read that link)11:27
apusejm, my university does nothing with linux unless its red hat enterprise, they wont even let me ask questions about terminal commands unless Im using it11:27
adaptr!rute11:27
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com11:27
ejmthat's what I did, and I learned stuff like grep, ls, cp, changing owners/groups/permissions.11:27
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BluesKajadaptr:  :), but how is it used ?11:27
Cosmo_on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?11:27
adaptrBluesKaj erm.. pretty much however you want11:27
KyralDamn...I'm STILL getting thanks on that thread11:27
apuswe use linux for programming a lot, so I know a lot more commands than a stranger11:27
Kyraland I haven't touched it in over a year!11:28
ejmactually, apus, that's the one my college used for the class--either red hat or solaris from the cde days.11:28
apusour university red had installs suck11:28
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Kyralapus, BluesKaj: Are you reading that link I posted?11:28
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lupuldoes anyone know a dc++ client? beside valknut11:28
ejmwe hardly used the gui in the class. we basically used the cli or a terminal emulator.11:28
adaptrapus however, you do not know the commands that will help you here... try out the ones I gave earlier11:28
KyralOkay basic grep operation11:29
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adaptrBluesKaj I'm just not sure what you mean - what is it you want to do ? do you want a description of the command ?11:29
lupulcause right now the windows dc++ runing in wine works 3 times faster than valknut11:29
KyralPay attention 'cause I'm only saying it once11:29
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adaptrKyral drop the lecture, dad...11:29
adaptr:P11:29
lupul!dc++11:29
Impaquehow do i *painlessly* upgrade to Feisty using the alternate CD?11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
Kyralgrep <string you wanna find> <file to search>11:29
Kyralor11:29
BluesKajman you guys need something to eat ...low bloodsugar or what ...why so grumpy ?11:29
Kyral<command that makes text input> | grep <thing to find>11:30
ejmdon't make me get my pitchfork out!11:30
BluesKajthx Kyral11:30
Kyralman grep for more!11:30
lupulpainlessly you could use adept11:30
adaptrBluesKaj in case that is what you wanted, grep is used to search files for a particular matching regular expression - which is a fancy Unix way of saying "a complicated string match"11:30
Kyral-ELECTURE11:30
Impaqueand PLEASE don't point me to the documentation because it simply.. doesn't work. there are some dependencies which have to be dealt with manually and apart of that, there is some really strange error on how python can't render the progress bar percentage...11:30
KyralAnd I ain't the one to ask about Regexps11:30
Kyralmy Regexps skills suck!11:31
adaptrbut plenty of people here to ask11:31
Impaquelupul: adept will fetch everything from the internet, right?11:31
lupulyes11:31
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adaptryou learn by necessity, usually :)11:31
Impaquelupul: or can i point it somehow to use the repository on CD?11:31
apusadaptr can you explain those 3 commands, im a super quick learner you can basically give me the supper short version and I will get it11:31
lupuli'm not sure11:31
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Kyralwhich three commands?11:31
lupulbut there is a line that you have to add in sources.list11:31
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adaptrapus first off, have you run them yet ? if not, there's no point in me telling you anything until you have11:31
lupuland then enter adept and run dist upgrade11:32
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Kyrallsmod: Lists all kernel modules currently inserted into the kernel11:32
adaptrapus lesson the first (note copying Kyral's tone here) is: Just Do It - you learn more that way :)11:32
lupulimapaque do you have cd or dvd with feisty?11:32
lupul*impaque11:32
Kyraldmesg: Dumps the kernel msg log. A lot of crap in there so pipe to less11:32
Impaquelupul: yes, i have the alternate CD right here.11:32
adaptrapus unless someone tells you to run sudo rm -rf /11:32
apusand for the record, man pages are horribly written11:32
KyralDON'T!11:32
KyralGood lord don't....11:32
apuslol11:32
lupuli recommand you to download the dvd and fully install it11:33
ian_apus11:33
ian_MOAN SOME MORE!1111:33
apusian_ moan11:33
ian_you're like an old aged pensioner11:33
adaptrapus they're succinct, for good reason - they're references, not manuals (contrary to what you would think)11:33
KyralI had an incident while writing Terminal For Beginners where someone actually did it because they saw it in a [code] [/code]  block11:33
Kyralwithout reading the surrounding text (Which was saying NOT to do it)11:33
lupuli have feisty but it doesn't use the repo on the dvd. still downloads from the internet. it's kind of stupid11:33
BluesKajian_: don't make fun of us old age pensioners11:33
adaptrlupul uncomment the DVD stanza in sources.list11:33
ian_<311:33
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Kyraland the manpages are perfect11:34
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adaptrfor various values of "perfect", yes11:34
KyralClear, consise, and to the point11:34
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lupuleverything is uncommented11:34
etalliWhere can you change desktop effects settings?11:34
adaptrI oculd show you dozens that are neither, but that's not the point now11:34
Impaquehaving the update in mind, so far, i feel that kubuntu is just a "dirty hack" on ubuntu (gnome) default11:34
Kyral....11:34
apusit took me 2 hours to realize there was no ls -# command to not flood past 1 screen of text and that I needed to | less11:34
lupuli tried gnome11:34
aroImpaque: that might be the wrong word to use11:35
GrahamImpaque: I know what you mean.11:35
lupulnot very friendly11:35
aroImpaque: since it doesn't apply at all11:35
apussimple things like that get really annoying when trying to troubleshoot11:35
KyralThe difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is merely the default DE11:35
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lupulkde is more configurable. more hotkeys, easier to use etc11:35
KyralPull from the same repos...11:35
adaptr..and a few other things11:35
lupulmy opinion11:35
zblachshuttleworth has backed KDE, and not gnome. that may change soon?11:35
GrahamImpaque: It is getting better though. more comfy in Feisty.11:35
KyralSo its more of a KDE vs. GNOME thing (Which we are NOT allowed to do)11:35
apusfor example, what do you do if you need to kill a task, but when you -top it is so far down on the list its not vissible11:35
zblach**that ('dirty-hack' feeling) may change soon11:35
adaptraouyou use htop11:35
Kyralapus: pstree -p11:35
adaptrapus you use htop11:36
Kyralor ps aux | grep processname11:36
etalliWhere can you change desktop effects settings?11:36
adaptrzblach how oculd shuttleworth have backed KDE when Ubuntu was the first made ?11:36
apussee, thats the annoying thing for people that arn't pro, how many command must I memorize to see something like a task viewer11:36
KyralWait don't tell me Fiesty ships with Beryl activated...11:36
adaptrapus just one: install htop, use htop11:36
aroThis channel is not a Desktop Environment debate place11:36
adaptrapus and if you're in the GUI just open the task viewer...11:36
_4strO</troll>11:37
Impaqueok, first i needed to manually install python-gnupginterface, and then, whole python-gtk2, so i don't have to use the (buggy) KDE updater frontend, which can't "render percents on progressbar" let's see the GTK frontend ;)11:37
ejm#kdevsgnome11:37
Kyral(KSysGuard)11:37
apusthere is a task viewer?11:37
lupuladaptr can you write me the line to add in soures.list to make feisty use the dvd repo?11:37
KyralKSysGuard11:37
Grahamapus: Press CTRL +ESC11:37
_4strOapus: ctrl-esc11:37
adaptrlupul no idea, no.. but it should have been included in the sources.list from the DVD, since that is how it was installed.. there is usually a sources.list.orig11:37
apushow was I supose to know that!?11:37
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shawn34how has the feisty upgrade gone? any major issues so far with anything?11:37
apusis that in all distros or just kubuntu11:37
lupulwell it isn't11:37
lupulon edgy there was11:37
lupulbut here.. no sir11:38
KyralHoly sh*t it works on Arch11:38
Grahamapus: It's KDE, it's a shortcut you can change it in settings.11:38
_4strOapus: in looking in your shorttcults conf in the system settings11:38
Kyralit must be a KDE thing...11:38
KyralDidn't know that11:38
Kyral(See you learn something every day :D)11:38
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apusyou all act like its obvious11:38
adaptrit is a KDE thing, yes11:38
lupulat least nvidia runs like hell11:38
_4strO^^11:38
Kyralapus: I sure as hell didn't know about it until right now11:38
lupuli mean very good11:38
zblachall sorts of cool KDE things i've learned recently. F4 in konqueror, ctrl-alt-esc to kill by mouse...11:39
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zblachany other cool ones?11:39
_4strOapus: its whenn you dont like clickodrome :p11:39
Grahamapus: It is obvious, it's like ctrl alt del in Windows.11:39
apusadaptr: htop owns11:39
apusit should be default11:39
ejmyeah, I love the xkill app. it's such a killer app.11:39
apusgraham no its not11:39
Kyralapus: No one is going to tell you all the fun stuff11:39
Grahamapus: Yes it is, it's in the menu.11:39
apusgraham in windows the first message you see is press ctl alt del to start11:39
KyralBecause half the fun in the fun stuff is finding said fun stuff11:39
lupullol11:39
GrahamOn domain computers maybe.11:39
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Kyral(Or writing your own...)11:39
apusor any non shitty install graham11:39
_4strOapus: looks like a presage :p11:39
apuspresage?11:39
Impaque"AttributeError: KDECdromProgressAdapter instance has no attribute 'progressbar'" :(11:39
adaptrGraham on *all* computers - but not by default11:39
lupulis there any other dc++ client? beside valknut11:40
zblachKyral: can you add stuff to right-click menus?11:40
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Kyralzblach: Yah11:40
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zblachlupul: dcpp11:40
apusgraham: think of me what you want, but no, its not obvious11:40
GrahamInfact it's more obvious, because ctrl+esc is in the shortcuts menu, and it says it opens the task controler.11:40
lupulzblach does it work well? comparing to valknut11:40
apusshotcuts menu?11:40
GrahamIn the settings menu.11:40
apusgraham, isn't the deffinition of obvious is that non experienced people can figure it out?11:40
_4strOapus: predict11:40
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zblachlupul: : i've not used dc++, just set it up for a friend.11:40
lupulaha11:41
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adaptrapus no, that would be "easily discoverable"11:41
adaptrapus obvious is very subjective11:41
apusthere is no shortcut menu in the settings11:41
lupulnow i'm using the windows dc++ in wine and runs better a lot than valknut11:41
apusI looked through all the settings one of the first things I did11:41
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Kyralzblach: They are called "Service Menus"11:41
Kyralhttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus11:41
_4strOapus: contry and language i think11:42
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zblachi'm just looking to modify one. add the Extract menu to .rar files11:42
MinceRbye11:42
Grahamapus: System settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Shortcuts.11:42
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GrahamIt's just that easy!11:42
kaneknowsIs it possible to use the oxygen icons in fiesty?11:42
_4strOoups11:42
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Kyralkaneknows: The Oxygen people have explicitly stated they don't want Oxygen being used until KDE 4 is officially released11:42
_4strOapus the shortcuts are inthe keyboard and mouse settings11:42
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kaneknowsyeah i thought i heard something about that, but i saw some screen shots of someone rocking those icons with kubuntu 7.0411:43
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apusI would hardly call it obvious still, I've used linux in a lab for 3 years, and no lab tech has ever used ctrl esc to fix a kill task issue11:44
KyralBasically its because Oxygen is part of the "Bang!" of KDE411:44
kaneknowsyeah, i understand why they would want that.11:44
KyralSo I'd respect their wishes right now11:44
Kyralb/c KDE4 is gonna rock so hard it ain't funny :D11:44
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apuskde4?11:45
kaneknowsheh, it should be intresting at least.11:45
ejmit'll be a killer.11:45
MorboKDE4 will be like the second coming11:45
ejmit'll be like whe kde2 was going to come out.11:45
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MorboAll the evil sinners/followers of Gnome shall perish in its divine fire11:45
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ian_Gnome isn't bad tbh11:46
mattrperry1976anyone have a way to stop beryl from running ?11:46
MorboI know11:46
apusso what is dmesg exactly?11:46
MorboI used gnome for a while, and I still like it a lot11:46
ejmI like e1711:46
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Jack313Morbo, right click the red diamond and click quit11:46
Jack313?11:47
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apusso how do I access kernel drivers11:47
kaneknowsi'm addicited to KDEs network transparency i cant work without it now.11:47
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mattrperry1976what if by turning it on, your entire screen turns white and you can't "find" the icons etc?11:47
apusnetwork transparency?11:47
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apusmattrperry1976: kill the task?11:47
MorboJack313: Wrong person ;)11:47
gioacchinohello all11:47
gioacchinoI have a problem11:48
gioacchinoI have make a error...11:48
mattrperry1976how do I do that...I can't see anything on the screen?11:48
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gioacchinoI have deleted apllication panel11:48
kaneknowsapus: all KDE apps will allow you to work across things like SFTP as if they were a local file.11:48
Jack313lol sorry morbo, i was just reading your conversation and not thinking11:48
gioacchinoand now I don't see11:48
mattrperry1976and I'm not familiar enough with konsole commands to know how to do it manually etc?11:48
gioacchinothe application runneing on the panel menu :(11:49
gioacchinohow to reset to default configuration ?11:49
apusmattrperry1976: press ctrl alt f2 to open a console session11:49
mattrperry1976ok11:49
mattrperry1976then?11:49
Jack313isnt it like dmesg | grep beryl11:49
mattrperry1976the konsole opens, but I can't see it11:49
Jack313and then kill that proc id11:50
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apusmattrperry1976: the console should be a full screen dos looking thing11:50
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apusadaptr: does htop command (like f9 to kill) only work when not in a gui11:51
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adaptrapus it will never work "in a GUI"11:51
gioacchino!kicker11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
mattrperry1976ok got the console full screen and can see it now11:51
Jack313anyone have pics of this oxygen theme11:51
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_4strO!launcher11:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about launcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:52
gioacchinoplease anybody halp me11:52
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_4strOJack313: google is your friend11:52
_4strOgioacchino: whats the matter ?11:52
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mattrperry1976after I have the console open and full screen, what command to kill beryl, and/or make sure it doesn't keep starting itself at reboot etc?11:53
blackd3ath:D11:53
_4strOmattrperry1976: ps -A | grep beryl11:54
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_4strOand then kill process n+11:54
_4strOand then kill process n11:54
Lars_GShouldn't adept show me the option to upgrade version? (dist-upgrade)??11:54
_4strOLars_G: it supposed too11:55
aroAnyone have a good link to a tutorial to setting up nvidia+beryl on feisty?11:55
Lars_G_4strO: it's not, ah well.11:55
gioacchino_4strO: my problem is this : for my mistake I have deleted apllication panel from my panel now I see as normal panel bt I not see the application in the panel...11:55
gioacchino:(11:55
Lars_GI'll use apt-get or the command line version, or synaptic11:55
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_4strOLars_G: have you refresh the repo ?11:55
gioacchinohot to reset to ddefault kde panel ?11:55
blackd3athBERYL is bad11:55
Lars_G_4strO: bingo. thanks11:56
aroThanks blackd3ath, but that wasn't my question11:56
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_4strOgioacchino: klouncher &11:56
Grahamblackd3ath: Shut up, beryl RULES! Admitedly I've never used it, but it still looks good.11:56
_4strOgioacchino: klauncher &11:56
gioacchino&11:56
gioacchino??11:56
apusso how do I look at kernel drivers11:56
_4strOgioacchino: juste ctrl-alt + F711:57
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_4strOto return in KDE11:57
blackd3athWhen I used a beryl my linux was crashed :(11:57
_4strOthen alt+F211:57
_4strOgioacchino: and konsole11:57
sstchurI'm really puzzled as to why my DLink wifi card works so much better under Windows than it does under Linux?  And not just a little bit better -- a lot better.  I had good success with ndiswrappers in Edgy, but it seems much less reliable in Feisty... anyone know why?11:57
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Lars_G_4strO: if he's in console should be alt-F7 not ctrl-alt11:57
gioacchinoI must restart kde ?11:57
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_4strOgioacchino: nop11:58
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_4strOLars_G: somebody tols him to press ctrl-alt + F1 i though11:58
_4strOgioacchino: are you in KDE ?11:58
gioacchinoyes11:58
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Lars_G_4strO: yep, but once you're in console via ctrl-alt-f1 you return with just alt-f711:58
gioacchino_4strO:  yes I am in kde11:59
_4strOgioacchino: have you an open konsole ?11:59
gioacchinoyes11:59
_4strOLars_G: didn't know :p11:59
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_4strOgioacchino: klauncher &11:59
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Lars_G_4strO: 2195 files to upgrade11:59
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_4strOloool12:00
_4strOgioacchino: ?12:00
Lars_GAltough download is going very fast. I wonder if the upgrade tool comes with a similar code to netselect.12:00
gioacchino_4strO:12:00
gioacchinogioacchino@server:~$ klauncher &12:00
gioacchino[1]  714812:00
gioacchinogioacchino@server:~$ klauncher: This program is not supposed to be started manually.12:00
gioacchinoklauncher: It is started automatically by kdeinit.12:00
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_4strOok12:00
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PasNoxevening12:01
Lars_G_4strO: have him run kdeinit with alt-f212:01
Lars_G_4strO: What's his problem anyhow?12:01
_4strOthink just close and repoen the session will enough and easieer :p12:01
_4strOwill be*12:01
Lars_Gpossibly12:02
gioacchinorestart the session ?12:02
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_4strOgioacchino: just close and repoen the session :p12:02
gioacchinook12:02
PasNoxfeisty: i try to got working at same time ethernet and wifi, byt k(),etworkmanager seem to not active my etehrnet at statup, if i modify my /etc/network/interfaces, network go donw and not working, anybody can help please ?12:02
PasNoxbut (k)networkmanager*12:02
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mattrperry1976_4strO...can't get your suggestion to work...any other ideas?12:02
gioacchinoI have restart12:03
apusany good video format converters?12:03
apusI need a .mp4 to something that doesn't suck12:03
gioacchino_4strO: I have close and reopen session12:03
lupulwhere does dcpp install? anyone knows?12:03
_4strOgioacchino: and ? not ok ?12:03
gioacchinono12:03
gioacchinothe problem stay12:04
_4strOgioacchino: i think i dont understand your pb12:04
_4strOmattrperry1976: ideas for what ?12:04
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gioacchino1) for a mistake I have deleted the appllication panel from the bar on the bottom of page12:05
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gioacchino2) now I want to reset to default configuration the kde panel12:05
_4strOgioacchino: the K menu ?12:05
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dec_anyone know where i can get information on how to configure compiz with an ati radeon vid card in kde12:05
_4strOand the shortcuts ?12:06
gioacchinobut clicking on the button use default configuration not add the deleted panel12:06
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mattrperry1976when I boot up, my system autostarts beryl, however beryl crashes and then I get a white screen and can't see anything on the desktop etc...is there a way to uninstall beryl from the console so that it doesn't start on reboot?12:06
Cable86how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?12:06
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melkorIn a dual boot setup can you read the windows partition from linux?12:06
gioacchino_4strO: no the apllication panel (the panel on you see the running application)12:06
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sstchurmsg nickserv identify nutmeg12:07
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_4strOmattrperry1976: video card ?12:07
mattrperry1976nvidia gforce 412:07
Last_Heromelkor, yes12:07
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Last_Heromelkor, if you have 7.04 you just need to mount the partition somewhere12:08
sstchurIs there anything I can do to increase the reliability of my wifi?  It connects easily, but it is CONSTANTLY dropping off (only under Linux)12:08
_4strOmattrperry1976: beryl never work ?12:08
mattrperry1976never12:08
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mattrperry1976just tried to install it today on fiesty and it crashed12:08
melkorLast_Hero, what about 6.10?12:08
nutemegsstchur: you have publicated your password12:08
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hiturunkOi.12:09
nutemegsstchur:  you should change it12:09
_4strOmattrperry1976: to remove beryl : sudo apt-get remove beryl beryl-manager12:09
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hiturunkFinally got around to getting Kubuntu (Does dance)12:09
_4strOgioacchino: you mean the curent open windows ?12:09
Last_Heromelko, you need to download some software for it, there is a guide on the Ubuntu site, but I'm afraid I can't help you, I only have experience using 7.0412:09
hiturunkGod XP was driving me insane.12:09
Cable86i just started using Kubuntu as well :-)12:09
mattrperry1976thanks a million _4strO12:09
sstchurgioacchino: yeah, I goofed.. how do I change the pw?12:09
gioacchinono I dont see it on the panel menu...12:09
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gioacchinoI see onli the window but no the icon on apllication panel12:10
Last_HeroI started yesterday :D12:10
hiturunkI started 32 minutes ago.12:10
Cable86although ive been using Ubuntu for almost a year...i merely switched12:10
madmikeadding a GB of memory sure does make a bit of a diffrance haha12:10
Cable86wanted to see what it was like on the other side of the fence12:10
hiturunkHUZZAH FOR PARTITIONING OUT 200GB HDS!12:10
_4strOgioacchino: right clicj on the panel and add an applet12:10
gioacchinosstchur: write /ns help12:10
_4strOgioacchino: unlock if it's necessary12:11
hiturunkNow I have Redhat, Kubuntu, Linspire, XP, 98 SE, and 95.12:11
Last_Herodoes anyone have any experience in getting Thunderbird to work?12:11
aroI have beryl+nvidia setup working fine, all the effects work, but I have no menu bars for any windows12:11
gioacchinonoe12:11
aroAnyone know what's up?12:11
Cable86wow, thats a lot of OSes12:11
gioacchino_4strO:  now ?12:11
Cable86how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?12:11
hiturunk;P12:11
gioacchinook!!12:11
gioacchinonow work12:11
gioacchino!!12:11
_4strO:)12:11
gioacchinotanks 1000000000000 _4strO12:11
hiturunkI do loads of things, so having lots of OS'S is normal for me.12:11
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_4strOaro: emerald --replace12:11
sstchurgioacchino: great, got it, thanks12:11
hiturunkI have XP on three different Hard Drives.12:11
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_4strOgioacchino: ;)12:12
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_4strOhiturunk: and, you're proud of that ?12:12
hiturunkI refuse to buy Vista, The beta fucked over my BIOS.12:12
hiturunkT_T12:12
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galathalionsince i upgraded my dist nothing works.. :<12:12
hiturunkWell, I'm proud of the fact that I'm smart enough to keep extra copies because Windows get's fucked over to easy.12:12
Last_Heromy laptop can only barely use Vista T_T12:12
LjL!language12:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:12
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hiturunkHey. I just noticed, Adept is the same thing as ClickNRun.12:13
zblachKyral: kdcop looks good, but i can't find where KDE stores the ark extract .desktop. any clues?12:13
hiturunkAnd sorry for my language ^_^.12:13
_4strOmy mind cant use vista ...12:13
Hasrat_USAgood afternoon. what should i exactly do to find out the location of the program 'kwrite' in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn'?12:13
Kyralzblach: nope12:13
adaptrbut Vista *can* use your mind!12:13
hiturunkVista is a big load of crap. (Am I allowed to say that)?12:13
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_4strOadaptr: :p12:13
aro_4strO THANKS!!!!!!!!12:13
adaptrnot without looking silly12:13
_4strOaro :)12:13
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Cable86how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?12:13
hiturunkVista is a total load, It's just another version of NT.12:13
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Last_HeroHasrat_USE, try "locate kwrite" in the konsole12:14
hiturunkAnyone up for a game of Craft?12:14
Impaque!upgrade > Impaque12:14
hiturunkI've been wanting to play a game of it Netty for awhile.12:14
Last_HeroI've not got round to playing it yet12:14
Last_Herostill trying to get everything working12:14
hiturunkIt's a great game, Not graphically, But Gameplay Wise.12:14
Last_Herowhile finishing off my courseowrk12:14
Hasrat_USAdamn that was fast Last Hero thanks :-D12:14

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