[12:14] <Arwen> MinceR, well, it's a deb. Opera is closed-source so any opera deb is the same as any other.
[12:14] <kdawg> yeah there was a time 5 years ago when that would be fast
[12:14] <Search4Lancer> okay, this is rediculous... is there a mirror of the "known problems" page anywhere?
[12:14] <kdawg> now 60K/s == lame
[12:14] <Arwen> kdawg, hehe, my max is 150K/s anyway :-\
[12:14] <BluesKaj> I have 1G memory , azureus / java m,dependent  buggy
[12:15] <kdawg> haha I peak at around 300, but average is 150
[12:15] <MinceR> Arwen: so i shouldn't expect any dependency problems?
[12:15] <kdawg> i was running azureus on edgy with 256MB and I'm surprised my drives didnt fail from all the swapping
[12:15] <Arwen> MinceR, err, probably not - most of Opera is statically linked to the dependencies
[12:15] <kdawg> it took up 192mb of space in memory
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> the most ive ever downloaded/sec was 7241kb/s it was sweet
[12:16] <atropos> hello
[12:16] <kdawg> I used to get speeds like that on the campus network, then they blocked all the ports.... :(
[12:16] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, 7M/s???
[12:16] <Tired_> so, I'm in a second console (an Alt+F1 one), and X is running poorly in Alt+F8...how can I make it restart over there from where I am?
[12:16] <atropos> I am on the fiesty live cd and the resolution is not being set correctly
[12:16] <kdawg> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:16] <atropos> the chip set is Intel 82845G/GL
[12:16] <Arwen> kdawg, lol - when I leech at the local University I get 500K/s down and 10M/s up....
[12:16] <atropos> any sugestions
[12:16] <chemicalvamp> the owner of my apartment ran a ISP from the building, had satalite access from the roof, and a LAN in ever room in the building
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah gotta love those T1 lines
[12:17] <Arwen> atropos, 915resolution maybe?
[12:17] <atropos> will do
[12:17] <Arwen> kdawg, T1 is 1.5M symmetric, lol
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah whatever
[12:17] <kdawg> fiberoptic then
[12:17] <chemicalvamp> i had 7down 3up
[12:17] <kdawg> :)
[12:17] <aftermath> I think I found the file causing the Joliet problem: Scarface.1983.DVDRip.R2UK.NORDIC.PAL.2CD.XviD-BAG.3285155.TPB.torrent
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah perhaps
[12:18] <Arwen> aftermath, no warez here...
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> his server was sweet had 10down 100up.. luck SOB
[12:18] <Tired_> thanks again  :)
[12:18] <aftermath> Arwen: Not a link, just a filename
[12:18] <chris2142sd> heh
[12:18] <aftermath> Who knows, I may have decided to name my tax returns that
[12:18] <david_> I've just upgraded frm 6.01 to 7.04, and now I'm getting intermittant soundcard issues (ie: stuck on high pitched ringing tones). Is this a known issue?
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> but even if you had 100down... where the heck are you going to find a server thats gonna let you download off them for 100mb/s?
[12:19] <chemicalvamp> besides the pcpitstop.com bandwidth test
[12:19] <aftermath> aha
[12:19] <chris2142sd> chemicalvamp: with bit torrent you just have to find a hundred servers willing to let you download at 1 mb/s;)
[12:19] <aftermath> I found the actual file
[12:19] <msoini> hello
[12:19] <ShiftedBeef> torrents I guess.
[12:19] <aftermath> (I hope this time for real) Torrent.lnk
[12:19] <aftermath> yeah, I think the chars aren't allowed in isos
[12:19] <msoini> is anyone feeling adventurous_
[12:19] <kdawg> yeah makes sense
[12:19] <aftermath> not particularly
[12:20] <atropos> Arwen: it is saying the package does not exit
[12:20] <atropos> exist rather
[12:20] <aftermath> nice.
[12:20] <aftermath> it started writing.
[12:20] <aftermath> thanks all
[12:20] <Arwen> atropos, hmm, dunno then
[12:20] <atropos> the issue is the installer is too big for the fall back resolution
[12:20] <kdawg> msoni, last time I felt adventurous, I woke up with three paternity suits
[12:20] <msoini> lol
[12:20] <Arwen> atropos, use the alternate CD then. It's plain better
[12:20] <kdawg> yeah, alternat > live cd
[12:21] <chemicalvamp> chris2142sd yeah thats what i mean after you have 1mb/s your wastin your money... if you pay for 10mb/s your wasting your money, because they are like all capped
[12:21] <mehdi_> est ce que il ya qq1 qui c parler en francais
[12:21] <kdawg> ok i give up, how do i set konqueror so that I have to double click on files instead of single clicking
[12:21] <chemicalvamp> i mean up to 1mb/s is good.. 10 is a waste
[12:22] <kdawg> ie. not "web style"
[12:22] <BluesKaj> kdawg, sytem settings/ keyboard mouse
[12:22] <aftermath> how much can I overburn a DVDR?
[12:22] <kdawg> ......that seems like a silly place to put it
[12:23] <neoncode> Hey if I got two realy big mpg files, about 1-1.5GB each. Can I join them together seamlessly?
[12:23] <kdawg> thanks though!
[12:23] <msoini> i installed kubuntu yesterday
[12:23] <msoini> had a blast until a while ago, can't log in now
[12:23] <msoini> booted using the livecd
[12:23] <chemicalvamp> msoini what does it do
[12:23] <aftermath> ooh, I just figured where kdesu comes from :D go me
[12:24] <msoini> it boots, and gives me the login screen
[12:24] <chemicalvamp> msoini and then you put your "log in name" in and password in right?
[12:24] <msoini> when i type in my password the screen goes black for a few seconds, then returns to the login screen
[12:25] <aftermath> I <3 livecds. They let me destroy my partitions in peace
[12:25] <ShiftedBeef> Now here is a question: Has anyone here successfully dual booted XP and Kubuntu 6.06?
[12:25] <chemicalvamp> msoini boot the live cd and do the "test cd integrity" if it comes out ok, boot it and try re-installing
[12:25] <aftermath> ShiftedBeef: I dual-booted ubuntu 6.17 (I think that was it) and xpmc
[12:26] <kdawg> I succesfully booted XP and Ubuntu 6.06
[12:26] <kdawg> but not Kubuntu
[12:26] <kdawg> shortly thereafter, I used a live cd to nuke the xp partition :D
[12:26] <BluesKaj> yup , ShiftedBeef ...had dapper and xp , on separate partitons
[12:26] <chemicalvamp> kdawg your installing xp first and then kubuntu right/
[12:26] <kdawg> yes
[12:26] <msoini> chemicalvamp: hmm, sounds radical
[12:26] <kdawg> thats how microsoft likes it
[12:26] <ShiftedBeef> That's what I tried to do, actually. Soon as Grub takes over the bootloader, BAM.
[12:26] <kdawg> it needs to be first on the MBR
[12:27] <david_> How can I find/modify what sound drivers I'm using?
[12:27] <hyperspace> is there a MOTU team for kubuntu?
[12:27] <ShiftedBeef> Soon as Kubuntu is installed, BSOD.
[12:27] <ShiftedBeef> On the XP partition that is.
[12:28] <kdawg> interesting
[12:28] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, are you having boot probs ?
[12:28] <kdawg> maybe put in the XP cd and do a repair>
[12:28] <kdawg> but that will wipe out grub I think
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> Only on the XP partiton.
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> Can't repair the partiton.
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> I tried.
[12:29] <kdawg> is the XP partition on the hda drive, or primary master
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, did you install kubuntu without setting up an ext partition first /
[12:29] <ShiftedBeef> Yes.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> used the partition editor in the install cd then
[12:30] <Tired_> YAY!  I have a working Feisty desktop!  Thanks for all your help. :)
[12:30] <ShiftedBeef> I manually set my partitons. I leave the Windows one alone, and I set up a root and a swap partion.
[12:30] <BluesKaj> or not ?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> ok, then you should be ok
[12:30] <chemicalvamp> so your xp partition is fubar and you need to reinstall, and by doing that restoring windows boot loader instead of grub? that is a pickle
[12:30] <aftermath> how do I tar a set of directories individually at once
[12:31] <crama> hi all, I just see there are the new gutsy folders on the repository. What is the suggested method to upgrade to Gutsy?
[12:31] <ShiftedBeef> If I try to reinstall XP while Kubuntu is still installed, then it will report an error and halt the format.
[12:31] <louieb391> I just came in - but is someone trying to install the windows boot loader over grub?
[12:31] <facugaich> are there md5sums for the CD isos?
[12:31] <dante_> Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, get the SuperGrub live cd if possible , it''ll restore your windows access by reinstalling Grub
[12:32] <ShiftedBeef> Well, if that were an option I'd go for it.
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef whats it doing when you try to bo the windows partition?
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> boot*
[12:32] <ShiftedBeef> It gets as far as the XP logo, and BSOD's.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, if you install windows AFTER kubuntu , it wipes Grub
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> BluesKaj he cant
[12:33] <ShiftedBeef> Actually it halts the format entirely.
[12:33] <aos101> @facugaich: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS
[12:33] <louieb391> run chdsk shifted
[12:33] <BluesKaj> what partition editor are you using , ShiftedBeef ?
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> can you boot into safe mode?
[12:33] <louieb391> chkdsk*
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> grib
[12:33] <facugaich> aos101, thank you very much
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> grub*
[12:34] <ShiftedBeef> No safe mode, and no chkdsk.
[12:34] <ShiftedBeef> I have tried both.
[12:34] <Doctor_Nick> :D >:(
[12:34] <louieb391> shift use the windows disk and go to repair and run it
[12:34] <louieb391> ooh
[12:34] <louieb391> oops
[12:34] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, get GParted ...it's the best live cd partition editor , in my experience
[12:35] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef can you back up all your stuff and wipe the whole disk?
[12:35] <aftermath> how do I view files in my dvd drive?
[12:35] <ShiftedBeef> Yeah, I have.
[12:35] <ShiftedBeef> Oh, one more snag. I also cannot mount my slaved NTFS HDD.
[12:36] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef so your hard drive is blank
[12:36] <ShiftedBeef> My Primary HDD has my OS and everything else, my slaved has my data, but I can only access it when XP is installed.
[12:36] <ShiftedBeef> Otherwise Kubuntu will refuse to mount.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef a slavedrive would be hdb instead of hda FYI
[12:37] <dante_> Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.
[12:37] <ShiftedBeef> I know.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:37] <ShiftedBeef> I'll called it hdb if it makes it easier then.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> im confused on whats on your master drive right now
[12:38] <crama> Anyone just tried to change the repositories to Gutsy?
[12:38] <ShiftedBeef> It is all formatted.
[12:38] <chemicalvamp> so your on a live cd?
[12:38] <ShiftedBeef> Well no. I instaled Kubuntu.
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> on your slave drive?
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> you said your primary was formated, what did you install kubuntu on?
[12:39] <mehdi_> \server irc.voila.fr
[12:39] <ShiftedBeef> Well, various things.
[12:40] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> Music files, tech calls, games, etc.
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> All my data is there on hdb if I format and install Windows.
[12:40] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> Kubuntu will refuse to mount it however.
[12:41] <canas> does anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef whats the location of it? hdb1?
[12:41] <ShiftedBeef> yes.
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> and its ntfs?
[12:42] <cecko> Hi all, please help me with Beryl, I have it running but there are no window borders and even some buttons are missing
[12:43] <ShiftedBeef> "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:43] <ShiftedBeef> "
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[12:43] <Arwen> ShiftedBeef, that means you don't have a /dev/hdb1 mounted
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> if its ntfs
[12:44] <khaije1> what is the default blocksize for ext3?
[12:44] <canas> does anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?
[12:44] <Arwen> khaije1, 4k
[12:44] <Arwen> canas, me
[12:44] <Arwen> canas, well, Ubuntu, but it's the same idea
[12:44] <kristjan_> what's up with https://wiki.kubuntu.org/? it displays kinda messed up
[12:44] <canas> how i can install it
[12:44] <ShiftedBeef> nt/hdb1mkdir: invalid option -- t
[12:44] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> canas #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <Alonea> is there a way for adept to undo something it did?
[12:45] <canas> tnx chemicalvamp
[12:45] <khaije1> thx Arwen
[12:45] <ShiftedBeef> It should mount when I click on it, or when I right click and hit mount.
[12:45] <Alonea> I tried reinstalling my wlassistant and it REMOVED something else along with the reinstallation!
[12:45] <chemicalvamp>  -t =device by type should be followed by the partition type.. so if its not ntfs that command would be wrong
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do fdisk -l (thats a lowercase L)
[12:46] <ShiftedBeef> Interesting, so that might mean that Kubuntu is not seeing the drive as ntfs?
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> see what it calls it in fdisk
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:47] <ShiftedBeef> Cannot open /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef it said that in fdisk -l?
[12:48] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:48] <apus> dante_: does it display minimized ones?
[12:49] <ShiftedBeef> fdisk /dev/hdb1 -l
[12:49] <ShiftedBeef> that was when fdisk -l did nothing but go down to the next line.
[12:49] <dante_> apus no it doesnt
[12:49] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef no do sudo fdisk -l copy the output into the pastebin and paste the address in ere
[12:50] <ShiftedBeef> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16931/
[12:51] <sstchur> I just installed the latest nvidia drivers, but now everytime I reboot X fails to start until I issue the command sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia.... why is this and how do I make it so I don't have to do this?
[12:52] <cnj> dante_: if you right-click the t-bar, select configure panel and go to the taskbar pane is "show application icons" selected?
[12:52] <lupul> nvidia rullzzz!!
[12:53] <dante_> cnj: ya it is selected.
[12:53] <dasnipa> hmm how would i check to see if i have any compositing effects enabled?
[12:53] <aos101> @dante_: If you right click on it, go "Add Applet to Panel" and add a Taskbar applet does it show them then?
[12:53] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef type these "sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb" "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1" if theres an error pastebin it
[12:53] <apus> how can I make the forward and back button on my 7 button mouse to actually go forward and back in firefox and konquerer, currently they do things like create new tab
[12:54] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef and from now on, if your going to share a back-up drive with windows/linux.. make it fat32 : /
[12:54] <dante_> @aos101 ya it shows that
[12:55] <aos101> @dante_:So now you've added the applet, is it showing applications OK?
[12:55] <ShiftedBeef> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16932/
[12:55] <cnj> dante_: have you by chance changed the default coloring of the task bar (I am really stretching here!:) )
[12:56] <Tired_> is there like, a stable and unstable branch of the repositories?
[12:56] <dante_> @aos101: it still doesnt display active applications
[12:56] <txwikinger> ShiftedBeef: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 (the 1 is missing)
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> myles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> needs to be myles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 try again
[12:56] <Tired_> i used gentoo before, and it had ~x86...does Kubuntu have something similar I can shut off?
[12:57] <Tired_> or do I not have to?
[12:57] <dante_> @cnj: no i havent
[12:57] <Tm_T> hmm, you mean "unstable" ?
[12:57] <aos101> @dante_: If you added the applet and it still isn't showing them, I don't know what is wrong.  Maybe someone else knows?
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> Ok now, it looks like it is mounted, but got an error dialougue when trying to enter it.
[12:58] <iain> hey guys, quick queston you someone can probably answer straight way
[12:58] <esaym> is there any way to gewt sound in ms pps files?
[12:58] <cnj> dante_: so, this is the default install taskbar?
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> Could not enter folder /mnt/hdb1.
[12:58] <iain> does anyone know the terminal command to restart ALSA?
[12:58] <Tired_> Tm_T _. maybe.  i mean I don't want unstable things.
[12:58] <iain> as in to reboot just the part of the OS handling my sound output
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> We are close though! :)
[12:59] <iain> I'm just back from a hibernate and (as sometimes happens) it doesn't work.
[12:59] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef does the folder hdb1 have a lock icon over it?
[12:59] <iain> I can't be bothered restarting the whole machine
[12:59] <Tm_T> Tired_: no you should not get any unstable stuff without hard effort so no worries
[12:59] <Tired_> :)
[12:59] <dante_> cnj: Yup defualt taskbar
[12:59] <ShiftedBeef> Nope, no lock.
[12:59] <iain> etc/init.d/alsa restart? or something?
[12:59] <mojojojo> hello first timer on irc
[01:00] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef close the window and run the command "kdesu konqueror"
[01:00] <kristjan_> iain: maybe try #alsa?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> iain, 'alsamixer' in the terminal
[01:00] <kristjan_> #alsa
[01:00] <iain> alsa doesn't do much and mixer will just bring me to the colume control
[01:00] <iain> I want to actually restart that module
[01:01] <iain> equiv of /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:01] <mojojojo> have a technical problem with formatting external hard drive, can someone help?
[01:01] <kristjan_> unload module then?
[01:01] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo sure
[01:01] <iain> kristjan> I just sound like I know what I'm talking about :-D ....not sure what to type to do that.
[01:02] <ShiftedBeef> Well, it took the command, but no response.
[01:02] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo type "fdisk -l (thats an L) and pastbin the output
[01:02] <BluesKaj> iain, if aslamixer shows up , that means it should be working
[01:02] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef no konqueror window popped up?
[01:02] <mojojojo> cool, executed mkfs.ext3
[01:02] <iain> blueskaj> yep I occasionally get this error though
[01:03] <iain> blueskaj> and even although the sound is configured to be on the souond isn't there. It's associated with resuming from hybernation
[01:03] <mojojojo> then learned that it need be fat to work with windoes too
[01:03] <ShiftedBeef> nope.
[01:03] <iain> anyway I can fix it by restarting the computer
[01:03] <iain> I'm trying to find a faster way :)
[01:03] <iain> as I believe that all restarting is doing to help is reloading alsa
[01:03] <iain> so if I could do that from terminal....
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef ok.. hold alt, hit space bar (this is katapault) type konsole hit enter
[01:03] <BluesKaj> sorry, dunno about hibernation ... never use it
[01:03] <kristjan_> iain: sudo modprobe -r thatmodule
[01:04] <kristjan_> iain: and then sudo modprobe thatmodule
[01:04] <mojojojo> well it is now in process of writing inode tables
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> then type kdesu konqueror dont close the konsole
[01:04] <ShiftedBeef> Ok, up came a konqueror window.
[01:05] <chemicalvamp> now put /mnt/hdb1 in the address bar and hit enter
[01:05] <sstchur_> Why is it that X fails to start (now that I've installed new nVidia drivers) until I issue the command "sudo rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia" ?
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> That did it.
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> I now have access.
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> Now is this permanent?
[01:05] <iain> krisjan thanks for your help :-)
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef now i hope there was a point to all of that ;)
[01:06] <kristjan_> sstchur_: how did you install nvidida drivers?
[01:06] <kristjan_> iain: does it work?
[01:06] <iain> krisjan - I'm going to search through the options using tab..........could take a while
[01:06] <sstchur_> kristjan_: I used an install script from nvidia
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef back up your stuff if needed, we'll get your duel boot working
[01:06] <ShiftedBeef> There was. Thank you so much for your help!
[01:06] <iain> kristjan_> not sure yet
[01:06] <iain> kristjan_> need to find the actual name of the module to test it
[01:06] <sstchur_> kristjan_: well, actually I tried to follow these instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[01:07] <kristjan_> sstchur_: install script?
[01:07] <mojojojo> fdisk -l is not showing the harddrive
[01:07] <sstchur_> kristjan_: maybe I"m not saying it right.. I dunno, I did wget as those instructions say, and got the NVIDIA-Linux-x86....pkg1.run file
[01:07] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef if you want to be able to access that folder without running kdesu konqueror right click on the folder "hdb1" and click the permissions tabe, and put them all as can read / modify"
[01:07] <Mena> !Ktorrent
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <kristjan_> sstchur_: you probably forgot to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:07] <sstchur_> kristjan_: which I ran with sudo sh
[01:07] <Mena> !ktorrent
[01:07] <iain> kristjan_> which means typing what you wrote minus the 'that module' and hitting tab until it lists loooads of options then either trying them all or my favourate - pick randomly
[01:08] <sstchur_> kristjan_: yes I probably did b/c I don't know what that means and didn't see it in the instructions
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> !info ktorrent
[01:08] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB
[01:08] <kristjan_> iain: lsmod will show you modules used
[01:08] <sstchur_> kristjan_: ok... I'm somewhat familiar with lsmod... what I don't get is why X fails to start every time I reboot until I do sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:09] <sstchur_> kristjan_: isn't that just removing and then adding the same module?
[01:09] <kristjan_> sstchur_: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and add DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[01:09] <kristjan_> sstchur_: lsmod part was for other person
[01:09] <sstchur_> kristjan_: oh ok
[01:10] <sstchur_> kristjan_: so let me see if I understand... it's still trying to use the older "nv" module when I reboot, so adding "nv" to disabled modules will ensure that it uses the newer?
[01:10] <iain> kristjan_ excellent i've found the 'module soundcore' unfortunately I'm getting 'module is in use'
[01:10] <iain> will muting the system fix it do you think?
[01:10] <kristjan_> sstchur_: don't know what it is ;)
[01:11] <kristjan_> iain: I guess where has to be other way to restart sound, try #ubuntu
[01:11] <iain> kristjan> thanks for your help. If you're ever in Edinburgh I owe you a drink. ;-)
[01:12] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : did you get my input?
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo no im sorr i was helping somebody on a side channel
[01:13] <mojojojo> its ok
[01:13] <kristjan_> iain: but I haven't really helped you much
[01:14] <phil000000000000> wenas
[01:14] <phil000000000000> alguien podria ayudarme en como cambiar los programas que se inician con kubuntu?
[01:14] <stoft> how do I reload .bashrc in the same session (without exiting/opening a new session)?
[01:14] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : well now its in process of writing inode tables 366/597 and not showing in fdisk -l list yet
[01:15] <stoft> !es
[01:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:15] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo so you want to format a external hard drive, please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L)
[01:16] <qaz> hi ....I can't play *.avi and *.mpeg and all codecs on Kubuntu 7.04 , I want help
[01:16] <chemicalvamp> !multimedia
[01:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:16] <Mena> Hey is there a channel for ktorrent
[01:16] <khaije1> stoft: source .bashrc || . bashrc
[01:16] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo the "sudo" is important
[01:17] <stoft> thnx khaije1
[01:17] <wolferine> what do I need to install a new USB printer/scanner?
[01:17] <khaije1> stoft: np, you just need to 'source
[01:17] <stoft> :)
[01:18] <khaije1> ' it the period and the command source are equivalent
[01:18] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : yes i know, where to pastebin?
[01:18] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:18] <qaz> I want codecs for kubuntu
[01:19] <chemicalvamp> qaz please read the !multimedia
[01:19] <Otrayo> go to mplayer.hu and download codecs-essential
[01:19] <qaz> I have kaffine
[01:19] <ShiftedBeef> I know automatix2 will work, but I had bad luck with that.
[01:19] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef wb, did you get it?
[01:19] <jbruckman> hey i'm trying to use k3b to make a backup copy of a game CD i own, so i don't have to use the bought version to play games with(i'm paranoid about scratches?). Anyway, does anyone have any info on this using k3b?
[01:19] <ShiftedBeef> Can't sem to copy and paste.
[01:20] <Otrayo> my feisty upgrade keeps failing coz of problems with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted, any ideas?
[01:20] <mojojojo> !paste
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <ShiftedBeef> Also there is a file on the fable game preventing me from modifying permissions.
[01:20] <wolferine> what app can I use for scanning images ??
[01:20] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do you have permission to access the disk? we did kdesu konqueror to access it as root
[01:21] <Otrayo> wolferine: kooka
[01:21] <ShiftedBeef> Yes, we made it that far.
[01:21] <drkns> hello fellas
[01:21] <ShiftedBeef> I have songs that I'm able to play, but cannot move them.
[01:21] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo paste the output into the pastebin website, hit paste and copy the url from the addressbar
[01:21] <drkns> i am still trying to set up my wireless pcmci card
[01:21] <Otrayo> drkns, what you using? ndiswrapper?
[01:21] <drkns> i have set up ndiswrapper and loaded the proper drivers and can see my AP network
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do you still have kdesu konqueror open?
[01:22] <drkns> but nothing beyind that
[01:22] <ShiftedBeef> Yes.
[01:22] <drkns> wpa_supplicant wont start and i cant register to Ap
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef right click on the hdb1 folder and click pproperties
[01:22] <ShiftedBeef> Got it.
[01:22] <drkns> yep this is the situation right now
[01:23] <Otrayo> anyone done a feisty upgrade with the new upgrade tool yet?
[01:23] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef theres 3 drop boxes, set them all to "can view & modify content"
[01:23] <Morpheus_74> Hello All. I just did a fresh install of fiesty and I'm having some display issues.  I cannot get the refresh rate to 85.  Any ideas?
[01:23] <drkns> i can see my network double click it and comes up and i put in my wpa pass but it wont get added to the list or no internet
[01:24] <qaz> where is codecs for fiesty?
[01:24] <Otrayo> if you can see your network the at least you're done with the hard part
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef you may also want to click the apply changes to subfolders and their contentscheck box
[01:24] <Alonea> drkns: you using KNetworkManager?
[01:24] <ShiftedBeef> "Could not change permissions for /mnthdb1."
[01:24] <Otrayo> qaz, there are codecs for everything
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> !multimedia>qaz
[01:24] <ShiftedBeef> "Could not change permissions for /mnt/hdb1." was the error.
[01:24] <drkns> smtg called kwlan is coming up
[01:25] <sstchur_> how come everytime I try to play a DVD with Kaffeine it said "Source can't be read.. maybe you don't have enough rights, etc..." ?
[01:25] <Otrayo> sstchur, encrypted dvd?
[01:25] <blain> Howdy folks.  New to kubuntu, but around debian for a while.
[01:25] <Alonea> drkns: that would be the same program. I could not get it to work, so I use wlassistant instead.
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef in konsole run "chown NAME:NAME /mnt/hdb1" reaplce name with your user name
[01:25] <drkns> himm i will try that now
[01:25] <sstchur_> Otrayo: I don't know (don't know much about this stuff).. they're just normal DVDs I bought at Target
[01:26] <blain> Any idea why there aren't any reasonably usable podcatchers available for ubuntu?
[01:26] <huyter> hey guys, is very problematic the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04??
[01:26] <sstchur_> Otrayo: I'm not trying to rip them or anything... just play them
[01:26] <jbruckman> !raw
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <Otrayo> sstchur_: you need to install libdvdcss. The dvds are encrypted
[01:26] <Otrayo> even if you're just trying to play them you still need libdvdcss afaik
[01:26] <chemicalvamp> !info raw
[01:26] <stoft> chemicalvamp: if it's Feisty, does hdb1 still exist? I thought they were going to change the names to /dev/sd*
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | sstchur_,
[01:26] <ubotu> Package raw does not exist in feisty
[01:26] <Morpheus_74> Can someone help me configure my xorg for fiesty?
[01:26] <ubotu> sstchur_,: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:26] <ShiftedBeef> "chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:27] <drkns> do i have to uninstall kwlan????????
[01:27] <stoft> huyter: I just upgraded, no major problems what I can tell, but haven't really tested everything yet.
[01:27] <sstchur_> Otrayo: thanks!
[01:27] <Otrayo> sstchur_: no problem :)
[01:27] <Otrayo> anyone else getting this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:27] <blain> huyter -- only problem I had was the servers were really hammered.
[01:27] <Otrayo> i got the file via wget and managed to (un)gunzip it no problem
[01:28] <chemicalvamp> stoft hda for master, hdb for slave, same applies for sda
[01:28] <huyter> thanks, stoft & blain, i still remebered the catastrofic upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[01:29] <aftermath> k3b fails at international filenames :(
[01:29] <aftermath> I've ruined 3 dvds before I just decided to take out those songs
[01:29] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?
[01:29] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef i dont know how linux handles ntfs, i never tried it... if i where you i would install windows, move all your files over to it, and format your back-up drive to fat32
[01:30] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : sorry for the delay but i am not getting a url after paste!
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef then move it all back
[01:30] <ShiftedBeef> NOt a bad idea.
[01:31] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef there could be an issue between readin/writing to a ntfs disk.. but i KNOW linux can read/write to a fat32 partition
[01:31] <Otrayo> ShiftedBeef: of you can try the linux-ntfs project
[01:31] <ShiftedBeef> Ok, well, thanks again for your help, I never made it this far.
[01:31] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : getting an index file.
[01:31] <wolferine> NTFS + linux == easy
[01:31] <Tired_> I need to get at shared drives on my XP box.  What should I be googling to learn how to do that?
[01:32] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : file:///var/tmp/kdecache-mojojojo/krun/19580.0.
[01:32] <wolferine> ops, I mean !=
[01:32] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?
[01:33] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ paste in your output into the box, click the paste! button below the text box, the page will refresh.. copy the url from the address bar and paste it in here
[01:33] <foxx> dpkg refuses to remove anything, stating there's a EOF after field name `' in /var/lib/dpkg/available
[01:33] <foxx> Any way to fix it without a complete reinstall?
[01:33] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16934/
[01:34] <Morpheus_74> Can anyone help me configure my xorg file?
[01:34] <chemicalvamp> Morpheus_74 for?
[01:35] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: what are you configing?
[01:35] <Morpheus_74> Xubuntu fiesty.
[01:35] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: I mean. what. like, add resolutions?
[01:36] <foxx> So, any way to reinstall dpkg without a system reinstall?
[01:37] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: the refresh rate.  I can get the resolution to 1024 X 768 (what I want), but cannot get the refresh rate to 85 Hz.
[01:37] <chemicalvamp> foxx what you mean like "sudo apt-get remove dpkg" - "sudo apt-get install dpkg"
[01:37] <Alonea> should just change your res to 85@1024x768
[01:37] <foxx> chemicalvamp: something tells me that's not going to work, it's complaining about the /var/lib/dpkg/available being screwed up
[01:38] <foxx> But I'll try it out
[01:38] <drkns> hello back again
[01:38] <drkns> now thank you very much because first time i managed to get connected with wireless assistant
[01:38] <drkns> #ping
[01:38] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: So where the resolutions are listed in the xorg file, I just add the refresh rate to the resolution?
[01:38] <drkns> hello
[01:38] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: thats how I have seen other people do them
[01:39] <drkns> i managed to get to network now and i am using wireless
[01:39] <Alonea> drkns: no problem. I am sure they will fix the knetworkmanager eventually
[01:39] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: Thanks. I'll give it a tryl.
[01:39] <drkns> wlassistant works fine but it is with wep only
[01:39] <just-this-time> how do I do samba browsing in kde
[01:39] <hyperspace> wierd .. just went and picked up my notebook that i had upgraded @ the office from home, rebooted it worked fine
[01:39] <drkns> alonea thank
[01:39] <drkns> s
[01:39] <hyperspace> now i get a fsck error
[01:39] <hyperspace> no such uuid
[01:40] <drkns> i need to have wpa to work since i am going to implement kubuntu on the whole company network all the stations and servers
[01:40] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo hello?
[01:41] <just-this-time> drkns
[01:41] <just-this-time> good job
[01:41] <xjkx> does kubuntu come with kde by default?
[01:41] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek your the first local ive seen lol
[01:41] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : hi http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16937/
[01:42] <khaije1> what can cause a filesystem to disapear from a partition?
[01:43] <TomTheGeek> has anyone installed kubuntu onto a fakeraid mirroed setup?
[01:43] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo wich one is your external?
[01:44] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo also you cut off the output, thats not all of it
[01:44] <hyperspace> khaije1: are you getting a uuid error?
[01:44] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : its not on there i thought you mentioned that earlier its a /dev/sdb
[01:44] <TomTheGeek> i'm using the alternate install and trying to setup fake raid but it always says it can't find any raid partitions
[01:45] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : you're right that is the end of it though
[01:45] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek is it detecting all your discs?
[01:45] <iain> anyone here ever used USBuntu?
[01:45] <drkns> bye fellas
[01:46] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo "sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1" then "sudo mount -t (file system) /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[01:46] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : its formatting as we speak it is now writing inode tables 573/597
[01:46] <TomTheGeek> yes it sees the discs as sda and asb
[01:46] <TomTheGeek> and I can format them fine
[01:46] <khaije1> hyperspace: i was getting a fsck exit 1 error before, but after trying to fix it, i managed to make my ext3 fs disapear from it's partition
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek i never used raid before.. but why would you need fakeraid if your discs work?
[01:47] <khaije1> hyperspace: it's still there, but i was half awake are did a few disk ops including maximize (i think this is the one that did it) now it shows as an empty partition
[01:47] <TomTheGeek> i want to set them up in a mirrored configuration
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> ohh i see
[01:48] <TomTheGeek> it's two 250 gb drives
[01:48] <Jack111> hey can sb help?when boot entries comig up, the boot screen suddenly stops, saying looking for journal;
[01:48] <Jack111> if i start recovery sessions it says the same plus, soft lock detected on home and BUG
[01:48] <hyperspace> khaije1: yea trying to fix mine too hehe remotely restarted dist-update on this notebook
[01:48] <xjkx> by default, what kubuntu comes to burn audio cds?
[01:48] <hyperspace> xjkx: k3b is nice
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek lol 1/2 a terabyte..... cmon now is that really neccisary?
[01:49] <xjkx> hyperspace, i know k3b is nice, but would you tell me if its comes by DefaulT ?
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !ati | TomTheGeek
[01:49] <ubotu> TomTheGeek: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek oops
[01:49] <TomTheGeek> i'm gonna mirror them, so only 250 gb
[01:49] <LjL> xjkx: i think gnomebaker is default in ubuntu. k3b is the kubuntu default
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !raid | TomTheGeek
[01:49] <ubotu> TomTheGeek: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:50] <xjkx> ljl i heard you would have to install k3b by yourself
[01:50] <khaije1> hyperspace: was yours due to a uuid problem? i think that is what happened initially, but in trying to fix it i now have a far weirder problem
[01:50] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent
[01:50] <hyperspace> khaije1: yes uuid problem
[01:50] <hyperspace> khaije1: know where to find proper uuids?
[01:51] <khaije1> hyperspace: did you do the over-the-wire dist-upgrade from fiesty?
[01:51] <Tired_> why does the link in the topic redirect me to non-Kubuntu pages?
[01:51] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent
[01:51] <TomTheGeek> ubotu: I've gone through the first how to that you linked to and it crashes at step 5
[01:51] <LjL> xjkx: oh, wait, i thought you actually asked this question in #ubuntu, so what i meant was to tell you about gnomebaker really... =) but no, if you type "apt-cache rdepends k3b", it mentions kubuntu-desktop, so that would mean it's installed by default
[01:51] <hyperspace> khaije1: yes and was interrrupted due to remote box changing resolv.conf after jumping on a random wifi network and being disconnected lol
[01:51] <khaije1> hyperspace: it doesn't really matter atm since the MBR refuses to admit there is a filesystem there at all
[01:52] <Mena> TomTheGeek, ubotu its just a bot sysyem for the channel
[01:52] <khaije1> hyperspace: haha that sucks!
[01:52] <xjkx> LjL, thanks
[01:52] <TomTheGeek> oh thanks, mena
[01:52] <hyperspace> khaije1: ye ill get through it lol
[01:52] <hyperspace> khaije1: but yes it does suck
[01:52] <Mena> TomTheGeek, you are welcome
[01:52] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent
[01:52] <xjkx> LjL i have no buntu here, would you check if gnomebaker comes by default on ubuntu, would be off topic but as you mentioned... xD
[01:53] <LjL> xjkx: don't think so. gnomebaker isn't depended upon by any other package, apparently
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> !ubotu
[01:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:53] <wolferine> i just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"
[01:53] <xjkx> LjL, thanks
[01:53] <LjL> xjkx: i think Nautilus itself can burn CDs, though, if i'm not too mistaken... (KDE user here)
[01:54] <Tired_> Hmm.  IS Adept the Kubuntu equivalent for Aptitude?
[01:54] <khaije1> hyperspace: mine ran normally afaik, but on reboot i was welcomed to a brand new *problem*! i knew it couldn't have just been me w/ the uuid problem. the busted machine in question is at home, do you have any advice for when i get back to try w/ the missing filesystem?
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ kubuntu has both
[01:54] <Tired_> where do I find aptitude in the default install?
[01:54] <LjL> xjkx: yes
[01:54] <LjL> !info nautilus-cd-burner
[01:54] <ubotu> nautilus-cd-burner: CD Burning front-end for Nautilus. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 191 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ adept is a lil easyer for broswing if ya ask me
[01:54] <hyperspace> khaije1: my first reboot into feisty was np, then brought it home and the problem was brought to my attention
[01:54] <LjL> xjkx: and that's depended upon by ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <xjkx> LjL, altough it doesnt burn audio :P
[01:55] <Tired_> lol, I'm getting confused, cuz the link in the topic directs you to use Aptitude
[01:55] <xjkx> LjL, would you check serpentine? maybe it comes with serpentine, which burns audio
[01:55] <Tired_> but I can only find Adept
[01:55] <LjL> xjkx: i suppose it doesn't, which would explain why most people get gnomebaker or (more often) k3b ;)
[01:55] <xjkx> :D
[01:56] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ "sudo apt-get install (package name)"
[01:56] <LjL> xjkx: you hit it, ubuntu-desktop depends on serpentine
[01:56] <xjkx> xD thanks
[01:56] <xjkx> LjL, just let me know what command  you using, apt-cache search package |grep depend ?
[01:56] <Tired_> chemicalvamp: I'd rather not deviate from the instructions until I have a working base system  :/
[01:56] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent
[01:56] <LjL> xjkx: no, "apt-cache rdepends <package>", which gives you something more interesting - the package that have that package as a dependency
[01:57] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : I got this output,  mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ what does the instructions say?
[01:57] <LjL> xjkx: even more interesting (though i didn't even need to use it now) is "apt-cache --recurse rdepends <package"
[01:57] <LjL> xjkx: there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com for when you don't have an installation available
[01:57] <xjkx> Awesome, thank you
[01:57] <Tired_> "sudo aptitude install <packagename>"
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo is the power on? is it pluged in correctly? and lastly is the port its connected to proerly installed
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ apt-get is the same thing
[01:58] <Tired_> then they all follow with "sudo aptitude whatever" with instructions to see Aptitude instructions if you have trouble
[01:59] <Mena> Nevrmind all i got it heheh sorry :)
[01:59] <Mena> Thanks,Bye
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ what are you installing?
[01:59] <Tired_> Feisty
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ download the iso, its faster in the long run, and its garunteed to work.. last time i used the upgrade tool it took me 6 hours and it didnt work, messed everything up
[02:00] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: yes all is fine its just that it is still in the formatting process, maybe this is why, it has been a while though
[02:00] <xjkx> LjL, i couldnt find kubuntu mentioned here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k3b&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo how big is the drive?
[02:00] <xjkx> what have i done wrong :)
[02:01] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: 80G
[02:01] <Tired_> I have the iso...i've installed the basic system, and now I'm grabbing the rest of the parts
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo are you low-level formatting it?
[02:01] <Tired_> this is a brand new install on a brand new computer, not an upgrade
[02:01] <wolferine> i just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ oh ok
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ when you want a package and its dependancies installed "sudo apt-get install (package)"
[02:02] <Tired_> i just don't know what I'm doing  :)
[02:02] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: I am not sure, but this is the current output, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir
[02:02] <LjL> xjkx: nothing, packages.ubuntu.com isn't as powerful as apt-cache, it won't give you reverse dependencies - so it only lists packages that k3b depends upon, not vice versa
[02:02] <Tired_> what I really want is Firefox, so I can sync my bookmarks back and get the instructions I'd bookmakred before
[02:03] <xjkx> aww, sure, will have to check on *buntu xD
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ type these into konsole "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[02:03] <LjL> xjkx: feel free to just keep asking me as long as i'm online, if you don't have an ubuntu system easily accessible
[02:03] <xjkx> LjL, i am on debian here, would it be possible to apt-get update a *buntu list and check ?
[02:04] <xjkx> source list i mean
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ then you may wnt to update everything so do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:04] <LjL> xjkx: yes it would, but be careful to not end up *installing* ubuntu packages on your debian by mistake... that, of course, wouldn't make your debian happy *at all* :)
[02:04] <Tired_> do I need a dist-upgrade from a feisty cd I downloaded this week?
[02:04] <LjL> !final | Tired_
[02:04] <xjkx> Sure ;) where can i get the buntu's sourcelist? :DD
[02:05] <LjL> !easysource > xjkx    (xjkx, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:05] <ubotu> Tired_: If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.
[02:05] <Tired_> i just downloaded the released CD the other day (after I saw it on slashdot)
[02:05] <xjkx> Thanks !
[02:05] <Tired_> installed it on a bare drive
[02:06] <LjL> Tired_: there's been no updates yet since the official final release
[02:06] <jtt> ljl i was looking for that info thanks
[02:06] <Tired_> ok, so no need for dist-upgrade, then
[02:07] <LjL> no
[02:07] <Tired_> i thought it seemed kinda early for updates
[02:07] <LjL> anyway Tired_, if you're using a standard ubuntu or kubuntu installation (i.e. GUI and all), you'll be notified of any available upgrades from the GUI itself
[02:07] <LjL> at least if you have the needed repositories enabled, which you should
[02:07] <Search4Lancer> grrrrr...... since the upgrade, no coloring works in OpenOffice.org spreadsheets! none of the cells in this spreadsheet that are supposed to have background colors do.... they're still set to, but the color doesn't actually show up
[02:07] <Tired_> oh?  where will it tell me?  *complete kubuntu virgin here*
[02:07] <LjL> yes, it's probably a bit early, and keep in mind anyway that updates will be restricted to 1) security fixes 2) very serious bugs, at any rate
[02:08] <LjL> Tired_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and pastebin it, i can tell you if it looks ok
[02:08] <s17lans> hello
[02:08] <chemicalvamp> !hi
[02:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:08] <s17lans> i need some help with a make command for an ftp server
[02:09] <s17lans> :)
[02:09] <Tired_> one sec
[02:09] <jtt> s17lans, dont ask  just come right out a  ask :-)
[02:10] <jtt> dont ask to ask that is
[02:10] <s17lans> im kinda new to linux world so its kinda weird
[02:10] <s17lans> :)
[02:10] <Tired_> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: i tried fdisk -l again but it wont complete output and other shell is stuck on, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir, and the drive light is busy red, any ideas?
[02:11] <Search4Lancer> so.... should I be reporting this as a bug, or....?
[02:11] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: oh its done
[02:11] <Tired_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16940/ <- /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <Doctor_Nick> !gutsy
[02:12] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <Doctor_Nick> !kdevelop
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <LjL> !info kdevelop > Doctor_Nick
[02:13] <ubuntu> anyone here use 'Light-on' dvd drives?
[02:13] <s17lans> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16941/plain/
[02:14] <chemicalvamp> WOHOO finaly.. check it out http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimatewowgamingexperience2sc.jpg
[02:14] <ubuntu> wondering on the reliability of them
[02:14] <s17lans> thats the steps of setup-compile
[02:14] <LjL> s17lans: err...? you're trying to *compile* proftpd manually?
[02:14] <s17lans> im stuck to the make command
[02:14] <s17lans> hmmm y
[02:14] <LjL> !info proftpd | s17lans, it's packaged
[02:14] <ubotu> s17lans, it's packaged: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[02:14] <LjL> !ftpd
[02:14] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:15] <ubuntu> wow that rocks chemicalvamp
[02:15] <LjL> s17lans: the place you get software from is the Ubuntu repositories. resorting to compiling is only for when you really cannot find a package neither in the official repository nor in (hopefully good) third party ones
[02:15] <delphine> guys what about beryl stability?
[02:15] <MinceR> it would be nice to be able to use gtk themes in qt applications :)
[02:15] <LjL> !beryl > delphine    (delphine, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <LjL> !software > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <LjL> !packages > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu i spent way too much on it
[02:16] <Tired_> does Adept keep a log anywhere?  it gave me an error, but it doesn't say what or why?
[02:16] <ubuntu> I heard on the radio that 3,000 dollar HD's in 2 years are worth around $400
[02:17] <ubuntu> $1000 HD's would be worth $200
[02:17] <ubuntu> thats why I say away from the TV section..............
[02:17] <ubuntu> the temptation is toooo great
[02:18] <ubuntu> the picture is outstanding
[02:18] <BluesKaj> HDD's used to be a buck a gig , now they're 50 cents / gig
[02:18] <xjkx> LjL, does kubuntu has a different sources.list than ubuntu? Just curious
[02:18] <ubuntu> I say who cares what it is worth, as long as it fits the need......
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Hidef won't come down that much , ubuntu
[02:19] <Tired_> what is libgdome?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu do i need a 50 something inch hdtv to play wow on?
[02:19] <ubuntu> I remember when they were buck a meg
[02:19] <ubuntu> YES!!!
[02:19] <ubuntu> lol
[02:19] <Tired_> or rather libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a ?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> lol uh huh
[02:20] <[Al] > Hlo. I upgraded to feisty using Adept and now kdm doesn't output. It says it starts successfully and it switches to tty7 but there's nothing on screen.
[02:20] <[Al] > Actually before anyone says anything I just realised it's probably my drivers!
[02:21] <LjL> xjkx: nope
[02:21] <txwikinger> [Al] : Are there any error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:21] <lupul> how do i start a shell script? plese :D
[02:22] <wolferine> how do I get my scanner to work (I have my Epson printer setup already) ?
[02:22] <vinces1979> lupul ./filename
[02:22] <lupul> ok
[02:22] <lupul> so i'm trying to start cube but it doesn't
[02:22] <LinuxRox_> during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?
[02:22] <Tired_> !package libgdome2
[02:22] <lupul> bad syntax
[02:22] <vinces1979> wolferine: xsane
[02:22] <wolferine> vinces1979, its not seeing the device, just my USB webcam
[02:22] <vinces1979> lupal: whats in your shell script
[02:23] <vinces1979> wolferine: lsusb
[02:23] <wolferine> pasetebin?
[02:23] <vinces1979> please
[02:23] <soulrider> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:23] <lupul> it'a a game "cube"
[02:23] <lupul> some shooter
[02:23] <lupul> bad substitution says there
[02:23] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/452025
[02:24] <[Al] > yep it was nvidia drivers
[02:24] <[Al] > My bad -- I'm not quite awake enough
[02:24] <ubuntu> hey guys I cant seem to get my HDD mounted
[02:24] <vinces1979> wolferine: what make?
[02:24] <[Al] > o/
[02:24] <ubuntu> I'm on live cd
[02:24] <wolferine> Epson CX5000
[02:25] <wolferine> but I am using the 4800 driver
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1"
[02:25] <Search4Lancer> holy jesus any little thing I try to do in OOo locks it up
[02:25] <ubuntu> ahhh hah
[02:25] <ubuntu> thanks
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[02:25] <ubuntu> whoaa
[02:25] <ubuntu> which one?
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu its a linux hdd right?
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> noth
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> both*
[02:26] <vinces1979> wolferine: all-in-one?
[02:26] <ubuntu> ahh ok
[02:26] <wolferine> yes
[02:27] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: its done formatting, should be ext3 now but i still cant find the drive anywhere except in gui, gparted.
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo "should be"? doesnt it say?
[02:28] <Alonea> segmentation fault means what in the terminal? and the caps lock button blinking?
[02:28] <Tired_> now that I have Feisty installed, do I ever need the CD again?
[02:28] <ubuntu> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:28] <ubuntu> I dont know what the address my HD is
[02:29] <vinces1979> wolferine: what does xsane say?
[02:29] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[02:29] <Shaddox> Can someone tell me what it means when you get a segmentation fault, and then your caps lock button starts blinking on and off, and then your laptop stops responding completely?
[02:29] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: its not in fdisk -l
[02:29] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu could you run "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L) and pastebin the whole output
[02:29] <wolferine> doesnt see it, just sees my USB webcam
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo did you use sudo?
[02:30] <wolferine> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[02:30] <ubuntu> yep
[02:30] <wolferine> that one
[02:30] <vinces1979> wolferine: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-387616.html
[02:31] <vinces1979> wolferine: for 6600 but.
[02:31] <ubuntu> !Pastebin
[02:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: yes i can see all the other partitions
[02:31] <Tired_> what happens if Adept chokes on a package?  will it try to re-download it?
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> yay for people who out new kernels up on the repo without adding a matching restricted modules package
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> put*
[02:31] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:31] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16942/
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> every machine wont boot today, isnt that great
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ that will fix anything broken
[02:32] <Tired_> chemicalvamp: I'm sorta in the middle of a huge Adept session, and it shows errors on one of the libs
[02:32] <xjkx> LjL, when i looked for mplayer, i had no result to any *-desktop, so mplayer doesnt come with any buntu? what does it come with then?
[02:32] <Tired_> I can do that after?
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ ok, just type tha in when t finishes
[02:32] <Tired_> sweet  :)
[02:32] <wolferine> vinces1979,
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu this is just showing your slave drive?..
[02:33] <wolferine> how do I restart it, once I edit settings?
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> is there a restricted modules package for the new kernel ie 2.6.17-37 yet ?
[02:34] <ubuntu> shouldnt be, my slave isnt hooked up
[02:34] <vinces1979> wolferine: I would rec reboot
[02:34] <wolferine> i got it
[02:34] <wolferine> permissions
[02:34] <ubuntu> although, it is 250 also
[02:34] <vinces1979> nice
[02:34] <Shaddox> Ugh.
[02:34] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[02:34] <wolferine> yeah, was simple
[02:34] <wolferine> ill have to add a tutorial about it
[02:34] <vinces1979> usually is
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu usually hda is master, and hdb is slave.. hdc etc.. etc...
[02:34] <Shaddox> Does anyone know why "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" returns "Segmentation fault" and locks up my laptop with the capslock light blinking?
[02:34] <wolferine> remind me tmr if you would :)
[02:34] <ubuntu> hmmm
[02:34] <kendrick> ok, this is odd.. my wife's Thinkpad X41 laptop, running edgy, has lost its ethernet
[02:34] <wolferine> hehe
[02:34] <dave_mc> hey all how do you add a new repo via konsole
[02:34] <ubuntu> double checking
[02:35] <kendrick> ifconfig -a now shows her wired network as _eth1_, not eth0... and wireless NIC as _eth2_, instead of eth1
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> I woke up this morning to find all my Nvidia machine hang and go to the command line isnt that great, seems someone put a new updated patched kernel on the repo without a matching restricted modules package
[02:35] <kendrick> ifup eth0 fails
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu why are you running the live cd? is there another problem?
[02:35] <dave_mc> anyone know how to add a new repo via konsole?
[02:36] <kendrick> i googled, and the closest i found was someone shipped their thinkpad in to IBM and the repair folks replaced their motherboard
[02:36] <jtt> I found some nvidia glx related bugs. But to document them I need to get back to the native install of the live cd on 4/17. i.e. what commands do i use to revert to totally native X that would have installed from the Kubuntu 7.04 release
[02:36] <vinces1979> dave_mc: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:36] <kendrick> (1) her network worked since her laptop returned from repair, and (2) ifconfig -a shows the same MAC addrs as before :(
[02:36] <dave_mc> thanks you vinces
[02:36] <vinces1979> dave_ms: np
[02:36] <kendrick> any ideas?
[02:36] <wolferine> vinces1979, one more thing
[02:37] <wolferine> when I scan in xsane, and I want .jpgs, what do I do?
[02:37] <wolferine> import into Gimp?
[02:37] <vinces1979> 1 sec
[02:37] <kendrick> gimp can scan via sane
[02:37] <vinces1979> wolferine:in file name just remave to .jpg
[02:37] <wolferine> k
[02:37] <vinces1979> rename
[02:38] <wolferine> wasnt sure if it was taht easy
[02:38] <wolferine> thanks
[02:38] <wolferine> ill give it a try
[02:38] <vinces1979> usually is :)
[02:38] <wolferine> not always :)
[02:38] <wolferine> :P
[02:38] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: youthink it would be ok to format it to fat32 now
[02:38] <vinces1979> wolferine: or on main window there is type drop down
[02:38] <Tired_> is there any way to see te load on the repository I am using?
[02:39] <wolferine> in xsane?
[02:39] <Dboyggggg> Hey fellas. How do I go about getting my sound card to work?
[02:39] <vinces1979> yeah
[02:39] <kendrick> noone seen this eth weirdness? :
[02:39] <kendrick> :(
[02:39] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo if you can, you should be more worried bout getting linux to detect it frst
[02:39] <LinuxRox_> during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?
[02:40] <jtt> !info nvidia >jtt
[02:41] <Ace2016> how long would it take to download  ~125 GB at 20kb/s ???
[02:41] <Dboyggggg> Ace2016: a long time
[02:41] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: pastebin?
[02:41] <kendrick> 125 * 1024 * 1024 / 20 * 8 ?
[02:42] <kendrick> seconds
[02:42] <kendrick> :)
[02:42] <hyperspace> I have my /etc/fstab.pre-uuid in hand as well as my fstab that cant find the uuid's... how do i find the proper uuid's for the new fstab? these are reiserfs partitions
[02:42] <kendrick> whoops, that's megs :)
[02:42] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: do you mean pastebin
[02:42] <LinuxRox_> no it was something on launchpad
[02:42] <coreymon77> oh
[02:42] <coreymon77> launchpad
[02:42] <LinuxRox_> the box said the following files failed to upgrade/install clk here to report...
[02:42] <Arwen> hyperspace, 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid'
[02:43] <kendrick> if i've calc'd right, 1702 years?
[02:43] <hyperspace> Arwen: can i then just manuall edit my fstab to the correct entries?
[02:43] <LinuxRox_> i wrote the locations of the 2 log files..then tried to clk the link but cuz of the upgrade in process it didnt open firefox and then rebooted
[02:43] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:43] <Arwen> hyperspace, yes
[02:43] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: is that what you mean
[02:43] <ubuntu> yeah it not even plugged in
[02:43] <LinuxRox_> ill try that thanks
[02:43] <Dboyggggg> I really don't know what to do. my sound card is not functioning.
[02:44] <ubuntu> could it be the jumpers/
[02:44] <ubuntu> ?
[02:44] <LjL> xjkx: no mplayer doesn't come by default, kaffeine comes by default on kubuntu
[02:44] <ubuntu> what kind of sound card Dboyggggg
[02:44] <Ace2016> kendrick: whats the 8 for?
[02:45] <kendrick> 20kbps is bits per second
[02:45] <kendrick> so 125 GB is 128 * 8 Gb
[02:45] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu: I really don't know. You see, this is not my computer, I'm trying to set it up for somebody
[02:45] <ubuntu> ahhh
[02:47] <hyperspace> Arwen: my uuid looks correct in fstab but /var/log/fsck/checkfs reports it as failed to open
[02:47] <ubuntu> is it a fresh install?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg, type 'lspci' in the console/terminal
[02:47] <Arwen> hyperspace, hmm... no idea then, sounds like a bigger problem - you could switch back to device-based uuid
[02:47] <Dboyggggg> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> that's the result of lspci
[02:48] <hyperspace> Arwen: any specific method of doing that? or just removing uuid and replacing with /dev/sdax
[02:48] <ubuntu> might want to use the pastebin dude
[02:48] <Arwen> hyperspace, replacing with /dev/blah
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu yeah.. well, sorry.
[02:49] <Dboyggggg> I know better, I just was lazy
[02:49] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Can someone help me with my bcm wireless driver, I tried NDIS but now it constantly gives me segmentation faults and locks my laptop up, so I can't use it anymore. X_x
[02:49] <BluesKaj> yeah sorry folks , I should have mentioned pastebin
[02:49] <Tired_> I was never able to get any distro that had ever been touched by Debian to work on my 440 chipset system.
[02:49] <Ace2016> kendrick: kb/s = Kilobits per second or thousands of bits per second,  so its 125*1024*1024/20/60/60/15 (15 hours since isps have fair usage) = 122 days, which isn't that bad really
[02:49] <kendrick> oh
[02:50] <kendrick> hah whoops :)
[02:50] <kendrick> i added an extra 1024 in there
[02:50] <Arwen> Ace2016, my ISP doesn't impose a 15 hr limit, lol
[02:50] <Ace2016> Arwen: its not 15 hours, its from 6pm to 11pm,, but it takes time to get back up to speed so i made it 15
[02:51] <Ace2016> from 6pm to 11pm torrents and stuff are slow
[02:51] <Arwen> ah
[02:51] <Ace2016> very slow, most of the time it stops completely
[02:52] <Arwen> Ace2016, try encrypting your torrents?
[02:52] <coreymon77> btw
[02:52] <coreymon77> i have alread upgraded to feisty, but im just curious
[02:52] <coreymon77> how much longer is edgy supported for
[02:53] <rjt> any reason in windows my resolution was higher than in fiesty fawn? and also how to configure dell wireless
[02:53] <Arwen> coreymon77, 12 months
[02:53] <coreymon77> 12 more months
[02:53] <coreymon77> ?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg, there should be more in that list...post in pastebin ..no audio controller is listed
[02:53] <Arwen> yeah, each release is 18 month support, 6.10 was released 6 months ago so that leaves 12 months
[02:53] <Ace2016> Arwen: then you loose all the speed from everything, then not even irc, or http traffic works, irc never connects and http speed drops to below 5kb/s, but by leaving it off i get to have http and irc at full speed
[02:54] <Arwen> Ace2016, huh
[02:54] <Arwen> your ISP sounds like a bad one, you oughta switch to one with a no limits policy
[02:55] <Tired_> i just give my ISP more money when they get mad.  then they go away for a year or so.
[02:55] <Ace2016> Arwen: but ourside of that 5hrs slot torrent speeds are great and i can download however much i like :D average at 50gb a month
[02:55] <xjkx> whats the name of that "add/remove" thing kubuntu has ?
[02:55] <hyperspace> Arwen: looks like switching to old fstab and replacing /dev/hdx w/ /dev/sdx is working
[02:55] <xjkx> What software is behind it?
[02:56] <Arwen> xjkx, app-install
[02:56] <kendrick> and just blame XP for fucking something up
[02:57] <ubuntu> never mind those 12 year olds in here
[02:57] <ubuntu> lol
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> /msg BluesKaj
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> konversation = lol, I know. it sucks
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: pastebin it@
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> coreymon77: I didnt mean to do that
[02:57] <Arwen> BAN HIM
[02:58] <Dboyggggg> pastebin isn't working
[02:58] <coreymon77> then use pastebin.ca
[02:58] <coreymon77> its a different pastebin
[02:58] <Ace2016> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:58] <Ace2016> that works
[02:58] <xjkx> Arwen, i installed app-install-data to test (on debian xD) and i cant find its binary :>
[02:59] <Tired_> is beryl going to be embarrassing on my FX 5200?
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> http://pastebin.ca/452063
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> ok
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> my sound card won't work
[03:00] <BluesKaj> anyway Dboyggggg , looks like you have an onboard intel soundcard ... you may want to check for linux drivers on the intel site first , then search around
[03:00] <coreymon77> it seems that kubuntu doesnt see your soundcard
[03:00] <Arwen> xjkx, try "gnome-app-install"
[03:00] <Ace2016> Tired_: nope it runs great on mine
[03:00] <Dboyggggg> BluesKaj:  no, it isn't onboard. it's a PCI sound card
[03:00] <Dboyggggg> I know it, because I can see it
[03:01] <Dboyggggg> and the sound worked when this machine ran windows xp
[03:01] <Tired_> good.  i'd hate to think I'd wasted two hours with Adept to find it sucked
[03:01] <coreymon77> well, kubuntu isnt recognizing it
[03:01] <Dboyggggg> coreymon77: yeah, I see that.
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg,  if you can see the card , can you read the manufacturer ?
[03:03] <Dboyggggg> BluesKaj: well, that would mean that I would have to check inside the computer, because there is no sort of text on the back of the card.
[03:03] <Dboyggggg> it is plugged in, ya know
[03:03] <Ace2016> Tired_: how come it took two hours?
[03:04] <Tired_> i'm also getting Firefox at the same time
[03:04] <Tired_> and two hours and counting
[03:04] <Ace2016> its takign 2 hours to download?
[03:04] <Tired_> yep
[03:04] <Tired_> i assume the server must be busy
[03:05] <Tired_> frst saturday after a new release, maybe?
[03:05] <ubuntu> chemicalvamp: does this mean I'm screwed?
[03:05] <Ace2016> Tired_: the servers went down on thursday but they should be fine now
[03:05] <ubuntu> I need to backup
[03:05] <Tired_> wonder why it's so slow, then
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu sorry i was minimized, does what mean your screwed
[03:06] <ubuntu> about mounting my hard drive
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> u can still mount it cant you
[03:07] <ubuntu> thats my question
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> copy nd paste it
[03:08] <ubuntu> I dont have the knowledge to do this
[03:08] <Tired_> "C++ bindings for GDome2 DOM implementation"  What's gonna break if I don't have that?
[03:08] <jtt> where on the kmenu is the restricted manager
[03:08] <ubuntu> I usually right click on a drive and click on 'mount'
[03:08] <ubuntu> and boom it works
[03:09] <ubuntu> k
[03:09] <Iwonder|too> hey,noob question,are there *ubuntu releases that come with low resource using WM?
[03:09] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu but your on a live cd
[03:09] <ubuntu> sweet it worked
[03:09] <Tired_> wo, Adept is tremendusly un-user-friendly
[03:10] <Tired_> errors with no way to explain, no way to cancel...
[03:10] <ubuntu> tru-dat Tired_
[03:10] <ubuntu> haha
[03:10] <Tired_> poor choice for default
[03:10] <Minataku> Hey, semi-unrelated, but: http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=39087 :3
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: kynaptic was so much better
[03:10] <Tired_> why is it not default?
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: but apt is best
[03:10] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu your not going to have permissions to access certain areas of the partition, if you want full access to it, run "kdesu konqueror /mnt/hdb1"
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: it doesnt exist anymore
[03:10] <Tired_> :/
[03:11] <ubuntu> I have a 2 gig flash disk to back up to
[03:11] <coreymon77> Tired_: kynaptic was abbandoned for adept
[03:11] <coreymon77> Tired_: personally, i think apt is best
[03:12] <Tired_> well, adept needs much polish before it's ready for prime time
[03:12] <Tired_> "Error" is not an acceptable error message
[03:12] <coreymon77> Tired_: lol
[03:12] <Tired_> might as well be "Something is wrong"
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ did you ever run "sudo apt-get -f install" like i said?
[03:13] <Tired_> it's stil going, chem
[03:13] <Tired_> hasn't finished yet
[03:13] <Tired_> i will when it's done
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ that will fix broken installs, and configure unconfigure packages
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> ahh i c
[03:13] <Tired_> i assume I have to do that in a konsole
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> yup
[03:14] <Tired_> it's just that nothing freaks out a newbie like that kin of error message...nothing to Google
[03:15] <Tired_> google has 27 million hits for 'Error'
[03:15] <coreymon77> Tired_: another thing about konsole, its much more verbose
[03:16] <Tired_> well, after this I doubt I'll be touching Adept again
[03:16] <ukubuntu> Here's a quickie, when booting, is there a way to change the kubuntu logo above the oscilating progress bar?
[03:16] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: i am trying to paste  tail /var/log/messages output but am not getting the url, getting index file instead !?
[03:16] <coreymon77> Tired_: if there is an error, its gonna tell you in full language exactly what went wrong
[03:16] <Tired_> i'd rather have more info I don't understand than not enough
[03:17] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[03:17] <coreymon77> Tired_: thats what you will get
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo so you cant copy the text, and paste it into the paste bin?
[03:17] <Shaddox> I need help setting my wireless internet up.
[03:17] <Tired_> :)
[03:17] <Shaddox> Can someone help me?
[03:17] <coreymon77> Shaddox: sure
[03:17] <coreymon77> Shaddox: what card?
[03:17] <Shaddox> coreymon: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[03:18] <coreymon77> Shaddox: oy!
[03:18] <Shaddox> coreymon77: I tried NDISWrapper and it keeps giving me segmentation faults and won't work.
[03:18] <coreymon77> !wifi > coreymon77
[03:18] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: when i paste it opens up an index of file page, no url.
[03:19] <yonkeltron> could someone help me with my ThinkPad T60 and my malfunctioning brightness adjustment?
[03:19] <Ashex> is it possible to move the volume bar from the center of the screen?
[03:20] <yonkeltron> Ashex: really good questions
[03:20] <Ashex> heh
[03:20] <Ashex> It's just been irkin' me for the past few months
[03:20] <yonkeltron> Ashex: for sure...
[03:20] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo i dont know what to tell ya, pastebin always works for me
[03:21] <Ashex> what?
[03:21] <yonkeltron> Ashex: it upsets me that the volume bar is so huge and in the middle
[03:21] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: ok i'll just keep trying
[03:21] <yonkeltron> Ashex: i wish it could be semi-transparent at least...something
[03:21] <mojojojo> thanks
[03:22] <Ashex> hehe
[03:22] <Ashex> I'm going to submit a request via launchpad
[03:22] <Ashex> the mute doesn't work for me either :/
[03:23] <Lam_> if i want a command to run at startup, what file would i put that command into?
[03:23] <Noldoaran> I have install, kde 4 (beta) from the repositories, but i'm still in kde 3.5.6. How do i run kde 4?
[03:24] <Doctor_Nick> whats so special about KDE4?
[03:24] <ubuntu> chemicalvamp: what would I need to do if I cant drag and drop but certain things from by HDD to my flash drive?
[03:24] <Raytray> Hrm, is there anywhere where I can find out why strigi 'start daemon' button isn't working?
[03:25] <xsist> hello
[03:25] <ubuntu> I have the space
[03:25] <Ashex> Lam_, ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:25] <Lam_> Ashex: ah thanks a lot
[03:26] <Doctor_Nick> whats a good mspaintish thing
[03:26] <ShiftedBeef> gimp 2.0?
[03:27] <xsist> so hey how do you manually configure kdm?
[03:27] <ShiftedBeef> krita looks good to me.
[03:27] <Ashex> xsist, in what sense?
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu you can "sudo cp from/directory to/directory" to copy, or replace cp with mv to move
[03:27] <xsist> like editing the config file..
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth_42> If anyone could help me please, I am about to go batty.. My NIC was detected and working fine(still does in xp) in xubuntu feisty, but it quit so I reformatted in kubuntu.  It says its an unknown device in hardware information.  I downloaded and installed the latest linux driver from realtek RTL8111B but it didn't do anything so I rebooted and it still says unknown device...
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu or like i said run konqueror as root by running "kdesu konqueror"
[03:28] <Doctor_Nick> kdesu desu~
[03:28] <ubuntu> cool thanks
[03:28] <ubuntu> sorry for the nagging
[03:28] <Noldoaran> xsist: gimp is more like photoshop..
[03:28] <ubuntu> :o)
[03:29] <xsist> Noldoaran huh?
[03:30] <Noldoaran> xstist: oh, wrong person... read your from one line while i was read the line bellow, sorry
[03:30] <mojojojo> paste!
[03:31] <justin64> hello ;)
[03:31] <xsist> so hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...
[03:31] <xsist> Noldoaran: its cool
[03:32] <justin64> anybody know how to fix this problem: "hdb: drive not ready for command"?
[03:32] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu lol dont worry about nagging i like helping when i can
[03:33] <xsist> Lord_Maynoth_42 does the live cd recognise you nic?
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> no, but it did
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> which is why I am going crazy
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> lol
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I reformatted even
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> it still works in xp
[03:33] <xsist> and nothing?
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> just fine
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> nadda
[03:34] <xsist> what model is it?
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> its a RTL8111b
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> real tek
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I downloaded the latest drivers
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> even though it says the 2.6.20 kernel supports it
[03:35] <BluesKaj> AC '97?
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> Results 1 - 10 of about 429,000,000 for error i guess this means we have alot of problems
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> misstell
[03:36] <rjt> could someone help me out with intel pro wireless?
[03:36] <bobbob1016> I just upgraded to Feisty, but I can't connect wirelessly.  I had knetworkmanager working fine on Edgy, but now it doesn't seem to connect, I have WPA on my router, any advice?
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 whats your card?
[03:37] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: bcm43**
[03:37] <jtt> xsist, the file you want to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf  MAKE a copy first and be careful
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> can you get on a wired connection?
[03:37] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'm on it wired now
[03:38] <CygnusX1> Hello.  Installed Ubuntu Fiesty...all working nicely.  Installed Kubuntu-desktop...KDM comes up, but, when I try to login, the screen flashes briefly, and then, returns to KDM.  This happens whether I choose gnome or KDE sessions
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 see if wlan0 is in ifconfig -a
[03:38] <mojojojo> !paste
[03:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:39] <riggatone`> how do you enable wlan?
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> sudo that*
[03:40] <xsist> Lord_Maynoth_42: i did a little searching and found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403362. hope it helps
[03:40] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: here is the output: sd 5:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000
[03:40] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: there isn't a wlan0, there are two ethernets, and I'd guess eth0 is the one I'm using, and eth1 has a 169 ip, which from my XP troubleshooting experience is the ip when there isn't an ip
[03:40] <xsist> so hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...
[03:40] <riggatone`> no such device wlan0
[03:41] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: [17192144.640000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[03:41] <Lord_Maynoth_42> how do I compile with the kernel headers?
[03:41] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 windows troube shooting wont help you here ;)
[03:42] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo sprry im no guru, i dont know what to tell you with that one, im out of info
[03:42] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I figured as much, but that's the only other place I've seen 169.***.***.***
[03:42] <jtt> xsist, the file you want to edit is  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:42] <jtt> xsist, the only kdm config i know about is kdmrc
[03:42] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 thats a network address
[03:42] <xsist> have, removed all extra resolutions but still have the same problem
[03:43] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: ok no worries, thanks
[03:43] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 theres a bug involvng wireless card, mines bugged too
[03:43] <xsist> havnt tried kdmrc yet... thanks
[03:43] <jtt> xsist, there are some weird problems with nvidia restricted drivers I wont even go into what occurred with mine but I finally go it to work
[03:43] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 where they work on edgy, but not feisty
[03:44] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so what would you suggest?
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> try installing the windows driver maybe
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> i did it and it didnt help
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> !ndiswrapper
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth_42> someone else said to use modprobe
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth_42> what does it do
[03:45] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: you think a reinstall would work?  I have my home as a seperate partition
[03:45] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, it loads the driver if it is not already loaded
[03:45] <riggatone`> i have been trying to get my wireless to work on my delle1405 and i have gone as far as download the ieee and the 80211 files and when i go to do make install it tells me that i must put in duplicate=y, how do i fix this?
[03:45] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod and grep for your driver name
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I am a n00b :C
[03:46] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and the bcm43** sees the my router's ssid, it just sticks on 28% in knetworkmanager
[03:46] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, ok  what is the name of the driver
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 hmm
[03:46] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: 28% as in connecting 28% done
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> RTL8111B
[03:46] <justin64> Help! All the Virtual consoles are outputting the message: "hdb: drive not ready for command". hdb is the CDROM and there's no disk in the drive. It seems (???) like Linux is constantly trying to mount it!
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 click it
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> realtek nic
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> Lord_Maynoth_42 are you on feisty also?
[03:47] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yes
[03:47] <FireJet> Hi, can anyone help me with my Feisty install?
[03:48] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod | grep -i real   see if you get any output
[03:48] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: Activation stage: Configuring Device
[03:48] <bobbob1016> you guys still there, not sure if that kicked me off or not
[03:48] <chemicalvamp> Lord_Maynoth_42 your card is bugged, its a known issue, my bug report is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106907
[03:48] <FireJet> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082159.0
[03:48] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, there you go a bug
[03:48] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so do you think a reinstall of feisty will do it?
[03:49] <theringmaster> I am in need of assistance
[03:49] <posingaspopular> !ask | theringmaster
[03:49] <ubotu> theringmaster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:49] <eljefe> can anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??
[03:49] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 doubt it
[03:49] <riggatone`> intel wireless and fiesty fawn is it possible?
[03:49] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so should I wait for a bug fix?
[03:49] <theringmaster> My new install of kubuntu fiesty doesn't show a shut-down screen
[03:49] <FireJet> My new feisty install hangs at the loading screen, can anyone help fix this?
[03:50] <themanmike> how do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?
[03:50] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"
[03:50] <ses1959_> question on ntfs i have a second hard with a back up of files form windows
[03:50] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: I'm not sure, my other laptop has the intel wireless, and it works, it's ubuntu, and I setup the wireless in edgy, not feisty
[03:50] <jtt> FireJet, start it in recover mode and see where it stops
[03:50] <FireJet> jtt: OK, I'll be back in a sec.
[03:50] <riggatone`> edgy?
[03:50] <ses1959_> it is usb and it states to open in new window when turned on but it does not open any thing
[03:50] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: edgy is the last version of ubuntu
[03:51] <ses1959_> how can mount ntfs in kubuntu
[03:51] <riggatone`> gr
[03:51] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: couldn't find wlan, I'm going to my repos now
[03:51] <riggatone`> so i shoudl get edgy and not run fiesty fawn?
[03:51] <dac> jisao,are you running kubuntu 7.04?
[03:51] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: no, I'm just saying it's a maybe
[03:51] <ses1959_> i did have sabayon and it worked
[03:51] <riggatone`> lol
[03:51] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: with a leaning to yes
[03:51] <ses1959_> have installed ng-3
[03:51] <eljefe> ses1959_: you need to install ntfg package... not sure what its called, something like ntf3g or something... google for it
[03:51] <theringmaster> My kubuntu feisty doesn't show a shutdown screen
[03:52] <chemicalvamp> ses1959_ whats the drive's flag?
[03:52] <ses1959_> how can i tell
[03:52] <CygnusX1> Does anyone have any ideas on perpetual KDM login screen after upgrade Ubuntu to Kubuntu?
[03:52] <ses1959_> should be hdb1
[03:52] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster your install is corrupted, please check md5sums of iso's before burning
[03:52] <themanmike> anybody?
[03:53] <theringmaster> I did all the check i could do and the disk is fine
[03:53] <chemicalvamp> ses1959_ sudo fdisk -l (thats an L)
[03:53] <theringmaster> I am not talking about a live cd though
[03:53] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster yes i know
[03:54] <theringmaster> I am sure that there is a way to fix this
[03:54] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster boot the cd you installed from, and check the cds integrity, from the boot menu
[03:54] <FireJet> jtt: "ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)" or something is where it seems to die.
[03:54] <theringmaster> I did that before I installed and all was good
[03:54] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: which repo do I need for wlanassistant, do you know/
[03:54] <bobbob1016> ?
[03:54] <soulrider_> bobbob1016: all repos come enabled by default now
[03:55] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: says can't find wlanassistant
[03:55] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 try this, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[03:55] <ses1959_> ok have disk dev sdb 61.4 gb
[03:55] <theringmaster> use aptitude instead of apt-get
[03:55] <ses1959_> id 7 hpfs ntfs
[03:55] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 not wlanassistan... wlassistant
[03:55] <eljefe> can anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??
[03:55] <jtt> FireJet, do you know about pastebin?
[03:55] <Tired_> mmm, that was cute.  after Adept took all those hours, it crashed
[03:55] <posingaspopular> eljefe: what do you mean?
[03:56] <posingaspopular> you can't add music?
[03:56] <Tired_> and, of course, apt-get works fine
[03:56] <eljefe> i cannot add music, folders etc
[03:56] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah, but I'm only pasting one line...
[03:56] <posingaspopular> eljefe: what are you using?
[03:56] <posingaspopular> !ipod
[03:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:56] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster no he doesnt want to do that
[03:56] <jtt> FireJet, paste several line above the error also
[03:56] <eljefe> kubuntu feisty (beta5 though :( )
[03:56] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: adept says it's installed
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: you dont add music by drag and drop anyway
[03:57] <eljefe> my kubuntu final didn't want to install properyl
[03:57] <eljefe> Linux-Galore I do with RockBox
[03:57] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 k-menu -> internet -> wireless assistant.. what oes it say
[03:57] <posingaspopular> eljefe: try using songbird as your music player,it syncs to my ipod video just fine
[03:57] <ses1959_> ok have fdisk and it shows boot * system hpfs/ntfs
[03:57] <FireJet> jtt: Well, it's a bit hard to remember all that information running from room to room...
[03:58] <eljefe> ok i have Beta5 installed and nothing is setup; I just need to get this done NOW for a party :( and then tomorrow I can play with Songbird etc
[03:58] <jtt> FireJet, is this feisty
[03:58] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: is started, and I clicked my ssid, then it said connection failed
[03:58] <FireJet> jtt: Yep.
[03:58] <eljefe> but the KDE automounter isn't allowing me to mount it with write permissions, not can I mount it via command line with rw permissions..
[03:59] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: it asked if I wanted to review teh settings, I did, and it has my wpa key
[03:59] <eljefe> " cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"
[03:59] <jtt> FireJet, does it boot on live cd ok
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: type sudo -i  and copy a file over
[03:59] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you can click manual and input your info maunaly
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: Nope.
[03:59] <jtt> FireJet, same problem
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: Had to use the alt. installer
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: OK...
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: if it works its just a permissions problem for the user
[03:59] <eljefe> " cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"
[03:59] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 do you have encryption on?
[04:00] <jtt> FireJet, alt installed ok
[04:00] <eljefe> no permissions are fine
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: I susepct you ipod isnt fat32
[04:00] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah.
[04:00] <themanmike> how do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?
[04:00] <eljefe> not permissions, it belongs to me
[04:00] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: stupid question, what do I put in for broadcast?
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> same as ip
[04:00] <eljefe> it is, I set it up with RockBox and it worked fine two days ago till Feisty (beta5 though)
[04:01] <jtt> FireJet, do you have any funny hardware in that machine
[04:01] <eljefe> i've been using it for over a year like this
[04:01] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and is domain the router, or mshome?
[04:01] <FireJet> jtt: Well, a new HDD and a new DVD burner...
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you can get away with leavng it empty
[04:01] <FireJet> jtt: Is this going towards: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-ide@vger.kernel.org/msg03088.html ?
[04:02] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: still failed
[04:02] <jtt> FireJet, perhaps  is the DVD a Lite-on
[04:02] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you need the routers correct IP
[04:02] <FireJet> jtt: So, then yes?
[04:02] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I have it
[04:03] <FireJet> jtt: HL-DS etc...
[04:03] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and I put it in, and it didn't work
[04:03] <jtt> FireJet, disconnect the DVD and try to boot on LIVE cd
[04:03] <djbailey> how is everyone tonight
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: sudo konqueror  then goto  /media/ipod  and check the setup  ie right click on the ipod folder -> properties
[04:03] <eljefe> nothing wants to work properly these days... sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdc2 /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/
[04:03] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 like mine is 192.168.10.1 (this is what you put into gateway and primary DNS) and since im the 5th comp on this network my ip and broadcast is 192.168.10.5
[04:03] <jtt> FireJet, forget that  i must be crazy
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Will I still be able to use it later?
[04:04] <Hasrat_USA> just finished dinner djbailey what's up with you
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: I have another CD drive..
[04:04] <jtt> FireJet, do you have two CD/DVD's
[04:04] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I did
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah, luckily ;D
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: the ipod will automount under /media/ipod
[04:04] <djbailey> i was wondering if anyone else was having issues with Kubuntu 7.0 and the WLAN0 interface
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 what did you ebter as your subnet?
[04:04] <jtt> FireJet, ok good disconnect the DVD an boot Live from other cd and see if ti comes up
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Alrighty.
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> djbailey https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/106907
[04:04] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: netmask? 255.255.255.0
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 whats your router
[04:05] <djbailey> thank u Chemical ill let u know how i make out
[04:05] <eljefe> even as root: Could not make folder /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/New Folder.
[04:05] <eljefe> nothing
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> djbailey no thats my bug report
[04:05] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: model is dlink, but it's internal ip is 192.168.0.1
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: of course not its already mounted
[04:05] <eljefe> yes it is
[04:06] <eljefe> i can browse it
[04:06] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 so then your IP is 192.168.0.X   (X being anything from 2-13 in some models)
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: you shouldnt have to mount anything (I dont)
[04:06] <eljefe> even if KDE mounts it, same deal
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: kde does nothing
[04:07] <djbailey> oh sweet
[04:07] <eljefe> HAL then
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: hal mounts it
[04:07] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: yes
[04:07] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: .44
[04:07] <eljefe> I'm not new to this but I really have tried everything
[04:07] <Hasrat_USA> djbailey: i could tell if and only if i had a wireless network card. however let me tell ya I have seen almost more than 30 people come in here and complain about Feisty's wireless features, although let me assure you also that most of the people with wireless cards and Feisty are now happy and not having the issues they used to have before in Edgy
[04:07] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 tweak it, try new ones
[04:07] <djbailey> i was readins some things that said to change eth0 to wlan0 but i dont want to do that.
[04:07] <rjt> hmm
[04:07] <nano_> does anyone knows if there's an app for money management?
[04:08] <coreymon77> how do i get dcc send to work
[04:08] <rjt> all i know is ive come to accept that at this time my intel pro wireless for my dell will not work
[04:08] <jtt> nano_, kmymoney works good
[04:08] <nano_> thanks jtt !
[04:08] <rjt> but without my wireless it means i must sacrifice xbox live, so hopefully the fix comes up
[04:08] <chemicalvamp> i just boot my edgy live cd when i wanna do online with my wireless
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: let me put it this way, I have half a dozen portable media devices and about twice that in computers, all working, now I supect you have edited something because Ive never had to change anything
[04:09] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: tried .50, .70, and .120, same thing
[04:10] <BluesKaj> got a big family , Linux_Galore ? :)
[04:10] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 when i moved from windows to kubuntu i had issues too, so i copied the addresses that windows used, and it worked
[04:10] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 i'de say remove knetworkmanager and try reinstalling it
[04:10] <eljefe> Linux-Galore let me put it this way: I have been fighting with Feisty for days now; first Friday's failed upgrade, then the failed install-from-CD, then just today a COMPLETELY FRESH, un-messed-with Beta5, so that I could JUST DO THIS.. Nothings been changed!  But, nothing is working with this!
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: no Im a coms engineer
[04:11] <BluesKaj> still, why so many ?
[04:11] <eljefe> I too have had a lot of success on a dozen machines with a dozen devices, but not right now, just before the party, like always!
[04:11] <mweijts_> Linux mweijts-laptop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyhting analogous to sound recorder on linux?
[04:11] <FireJet> Feck.
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> i just need to record me screaming into a microphone for a few seconds
[04:11] <eljefe> FireJet: same here bro
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluekaj: because different hardware has different specifications
[04:11] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I have a few other ubuntu boxes, I give all my machines manual IP's below 100, since that's where the dhcp hands them out, so there isn't a conflict
[04:12] <FireJet> eljefe: jtt left just when I was gonna talk to him.
[04:12] <eljefe> lol
[04:12] <eljefe> well i gotta leave too, sorry.
[04:12] <BluesKaj> nvrmnd .
[04:12] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'm just not that kde fluent yet, so I wasn't sure which program to use
[04:12] <ubuntu> anyone have that ubuntu 'Christian Edition'?
[04:12] <ubuntu> I was wondering what the differences are
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 hmm well i kind steal my wireless from the neighbor, so i dont have "hands on" experience with routers
[04:13] <eljefe> christian edition has firefox with bible quotes, and a content blocker... nothing more that I know, but something I am sure
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, you have to pray to make it bootup :)
[04:13] <ubuntu> lol
[04:13] <rbrtoclto> I'm using a couple of KDE apps under Gnome and I want to disable font hinting for them, so they match my Gnome apps
[04:14] <rbrtoclto> any clues?
[04:14] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: thanks for trying though
[04:14] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'll play around and see if I can get it working
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 maybe you can look around on this:
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> !ndis
[04:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> rbrtoclto: run kcontrol there is a fonts section and disable it
[04:16] <dac> with Kubuntu, do you have to have antivirus soft?ware
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: why ?
[04:16] <dac> I had to have it with windows
[04:16] <rjt> fuck windows
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: your not running windows
[04:16] <dac> 10/4
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: there is no known active virus for linux
[04:17] <dac> right
[04:17] <dac> , so I'm safe?
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> dac: yes unless you randomly install software without checking
[04:17] <dac> ok, ty ty ty
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> dac: thats why we have a package manager it means the software hasnt got any nasties
[04:18] <dac> great
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> dac: windows needs a virus scanner for one major reason, it has no central software package manager
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> for everything*
[04:19] <dac> another?, which is the best  for email yahoo, gmail, aol?
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> plus, its much easier to write windows viruses
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> dac: up to your really, I use gmail
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> you*
[04:20] <dac> ok.ty
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> windows programs don't run in individual "boxed" processes like nix ones do
[04:20] <Tired_> I'm confused.  I installed Beryl, and there's a little beryl down in my tray, but it doesn't look any prettier
[04:20] <surgy> hello
[04:20] <dac> I ahve all 3
[04:20] <dac> have
[04:21] <ses1959_> ok tried this link for mounting ntfs but get error fs type bad http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> dac: you can intergate gmail with thunderbird and google calanders (gcal) so I use google
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, right click and select beryl as the window manager
[04:21] <dac> just think I only need 1
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> intergrate*
[04:21] <rbrtoclto> with window effects on, kaffeine doesn't display any video.. is there a workaround for this apart from disabling window effects?
[04:22] <dac> intergrate,how?
[04:22] <riggatoney> any reason why at the login screen i have a respectable resolution but when i enter X max is 1024?
[04:22] <surgy> so i updated to feisty using adept, it crashed while i was at work, i came home and my computer was at a black screen with a white blinking cursor, i cannot boot into recovery console or anything, i started downloading the feisty cd image using the live cd, which i am on now, is there any way to resurect my old install if so how?
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> rbrtoclto: most of the beryl compiz stuff it still very experimental, most of it wont be fixed untill the second release after kde 4.0
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> surgy, you can chroot from the livecd to at least recover your old files
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> s/it/is/
[04:23] <dac> surgy,replace th CR 2032 battery on your motherboard
[04:23] <ubuntu> how do I backup my bookmarks on my HDD from a  live cd
[04:23] <surgy> hitmanwilly, i can chroot....... can you explain? and dac, thats retarded but thnx for trying
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu just save them to a bookmarks.html  file
[04:24] <dac> ok
[04:24] <Tired_> hitmanWilly: That gave me a pure white screen till I re-started X.
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> surgy, first mount your harddrive
[04:24] <Tired_> and now the little beryl is gone
[04:24] <surgy> hitmanWilly: they are both mounted
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, that means beryl is crashing on your system
[04:24] <ubuntu> no I am on a live cd trying to find where they are my HDD
[04:25] <Tired_> does that mean it won't work?
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu depends on the browser
[04:25] <Tired_> or just that it needs fixing?
[04:25] <surgy> Tired_: means you need to fix it
[04:25] <naegling23> feisty question here
[04:25] <ubuntu> firfox, sorry
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu different browsers put them in a different place
[04:25] <surgy> hitmanWilly: mind if i pm you it will be far easier for me to follow your isntruction
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> surgy, actually, you don't need to chroot at all, just copy all your important files on to some kind of backup
[04:25] <dac> I did lose my BIOS due to dead MB battery,
[04:25] <ubuntu> I always think of firefox being defalt, lol
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> surgy, go ahead
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> now whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?
[04:26] <surgy> hitmanWilly: it wont let me write to my hard drives
[04:26] <naegling23> when I go to hardware, and select my nvidia card, I open it up, and there is a section for standard or proprietary driver....but its greyed out...why?
[04:26] <dac>  but my box is over 10 years old
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu now whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?
[04:26] <surgy> hitmanWilly: and actually i just got an error saying my disk is full so i cant even download feisty
[04:26] <ubuntu> linux
[04:28] <ubuntu> I just backed up my data, now I  need my bookmarks and I think I will be done
[04:28] <ubuntu> ready for re-install
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu  it will be in /media/whatever/home/user_name/.mozilla/firefox/jumble_of_letters/
[04:29] <ubuntu> lol, what a   location
[04:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu Im not on your system so I dont have many answers for some things
[04:29] <kalorin`> surgy, type mount and see if htey're mounted RW or just R
[04:32] <ubuntu> sda2 is all I have other than cdrom
[04:32] <LM1> How do I force a hardware redetect?
[04:32] <ubuntu> and there is nothing in there
[04:33] <BluesKaj> ubuntu ...ubuntu or kubuntu ...you realize it's almost blasphemy to get advice in the Kubuntu (KDE) chat and then use Gnome Desktop ! :)
[04:33] <ubuntu> lol, Kubuntu brother......... always
[04:34] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu type  fdisk -l
[04:35] <ubuntu> ok...pastebin?
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu does the hardisk appear on the desktop ?
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> your going to need to sudo that
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> sudo fdisk -l
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: not on a live cd
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore im on a live cd right now, and if its not sudo it displays nothing
[04:36] <ubuntu> no, just my flash drive
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:36] <ubuntu> I can get to the HDD through storage media
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu look at the properties and it should show you the path to the hardisk
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu in the file browser of course
[04:37] <ubuntu> I see it
[04:38] <kpenrose> applying upgrade manager to dapper drake not very pleasant
[04:38] <LM1> how do you get kubuntu to redetect hardware?
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu if you can see the hardisk in the file browser just use that
[04:38] <kpenrose> gmediastreamer broke it
[04:39] <ubuntu> it says no files, no folders
[04:39] <ubuntu> how is THAT possible?
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu click on View-> Show Hidden Folders when in the file browser to you can see .mozilla in the users home directory
[04:40] <kpenrose> now everytime I try to update anything it keeps updating the same things over and over and never gets past gmediastreamer
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu  type  media:/   in the file browser
[04:40] <ubuntu> k
[04:40] <xjkx> By default, and i really mean by default, kubunto doesnt come with any dev tools, or i am wrong?
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> xjkx: true
[04:41] <xjkx> thanks
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> xjkx, no you're not wrong
[04:41] <xjkx> :))
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> xjkx: easily added though
[04:41] <ubuntu> yeah, that just takes me to my HDD
[04:41] <ubuntu> I cant get anything to come up in my media folder
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu now Im confused, you want to get the bookmarks of your hardisk and your on it
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu so whats the issue you have the path
[04:42] <naegling23> ubuntu why are you trying to get everything off the system?
[04:42] <ubuntu> no, I'm on live cd accessing my HDD
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu so you dont actually see the4 hardisk, just a minute ago you said you could
[04:43] <chemicalvamp> naegling23 hes gonna reinstall
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu I know that
[04:43] <Tired_> lmao!  this whole time, I've been nervous about Linux cuz I kept hearing 'Flash doesn't work!  It's hard to install!"  I just installed it in about a second and it works fine.  :)
[04:43] <naegling23> ubuntu, you shouldnt need to reinstall, whats the proble,?
[04:43] <naegling23> problem?  wow, typing bad
[04:44] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ flash doesnt work in 64 bit linux
[04:44] <Tired_> oh...that's the whole thing?
[04:44] <ubuntu> no no, I can access the HDD, I just cant seem to get anything to come up in my media folder
[04:44] <Tired_> wow, that misunderstanding has kept me off linux for the last six month
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: not unless you do a 32 chrooted install of firefox
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, but it doesn't work in 64 bit windows either
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> 32 bit*
[04:44] <coreymon77> hey
[04:44] <coreymon77> wtf
[04:44] <ubuntu> (the reason I am trying to back everything up is that I cant boot into KDE)
[04:44] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu media is where your cdrom / flash devices would be if they where mounted
[04:44] <Tired_> but I got 32 bit everyhing
[04:45] <coreymon77> i thought etc and usr and all of that stuff being hidden was being removed in feisty
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, you're cool then
[04:45] <naegling23> ubuntu, how far can you get into booting
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: so your install is all 32bit ?
[04:45] <LM1> is there a command to redetect hardware?
[04:45] <Tired_> I always thought so.  ;)
[04:45] <naegling23> ubuntu: and what is "broken"
[04:45] <Tired_> as far as I know...my hardware is all 32 bit
[04:45] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ if i wanted to run flsh on this amd64 i would have to emulate a 32bit firefox
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, intel? then yes
[04:45] <Tired_> intel, yes
[04:46] <ubuntu> sorry, terminology difference here. what I mean by media folder is :  media:/hdb1/media/
[04:46] <Tired_> celeron
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> !flash
[04:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <BeauJeste> how can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution
[04:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:46] <Tired_> but it works.
[04:46] <Tired_> i just cliced Install missing Plugins
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, i run a 32 bit version on my AMD just for compatibility reasons
[04:46] <ubuntu> Am I explaining this right?
[04:46] <Tired_> and now my favourite flash game is up
[04:47] <naegling23> ubuntu, you might be able to fix your problem without a reinstall
[04:47] <Tired_> the fun part now will be getting syngery to play nicely with my old network
[04:47] <ubuntu> well, I thought so too, but I ahve to rely on more experienced users
[04:47] <naegling23> I just came into the conv. too late to know what the problem is
[04:47] <Tired_> does Kubuntu comewith any kind of default firewall?
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu why are you in hdb1/media  you should be in home/
[04:47] <flaccid> !info firestarter
[04:47] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[04:47] <naegling23> tired, yes, iptables, install firestarter to use it
[04:47] <flaccid> !info iptables
[04:47] <ubotu> iptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 362 kB, installed size 1252 kB
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, i don't believe so, but there are several in the repos
[04:48] <Tired_> how do I shut it off?
[04:48] <ubuntu> ahhh, cause I'm a newbie?
[04:48] <flaccid> no firewall enabled by default
[04:48] <ubuntu> lol
[04:48] <ubuntu> trying it now
[04:48] <Tired_> i have a firewall on the LAN already
[04:48] <naegling23> ubuntu, well, its time to learn
[04:48] <shawn34> my task tray icons of running programs aren't stacking anymore... just going horizontal. how do i fix that
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, don't bother then
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: no default firewall but I usually install  firestarter  ie  sudo apt-get install firestarter  it give you an easy to work with firewall tool
[04:48] <RoboSheep> Tired, if you're on a switched network you don't need a firewall
[04:48] <naegling23> ubuntu, you say you cant boot into kde, can you get a command prompt?
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, unless you're just that paranoid :)
[04:49] <Tired_> hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them
[04:49] <flaccid> lo @ RoboSheep
[04:49] <flaccid> loll
[04:49] <coreymon77> guys
[04:49] <ubuntu> oh I know, casue I   could find any relevence in here to firefox
[04:49] <coreymon77> this is what ubotu said
[04:49] <FireJet> Can anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.0
 Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:49] <BeauJeste> how can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution
[04:49] <Tired_> Linux_Galore: I have a hardware firewall
[04:49] <coreymon77> well then why hasnt it been removed
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: if you have a hardware firewall and no services running its a none issue
[04:49] <Tired_> hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them
[04:50] <coreymon77> guys
[04:50] <flaccid> Tired_: see ?
[04:50] <ubuntu> naegling23: no, just a blinking cursor at the upper left hand side
[04:50] <Tired_> on the network
[04:50] <coreymon77> why hasnt the hide files things been removed in feisty
[04:50] <RoboSheep> in fact it would be a problem for some routers to have a software firewall behind them (cough Linksys)
[04:50] <flaccid> Tired_: which protocol samba?
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: if there is no services there is nothing to see
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: it has.
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> !hidden
[04:50] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:50] <coreymon77> not for me
[04:50] <Tired_> i can read files off the XP box in kubuntu, but the XP box acts like the kub box isn't there
[04:50] <naegling23> ubuntu, i just fixed a similar problem with my install...no reinstalling, what did you do before this problem happened
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: just rm /.hidden
[04:51] <flaccid> Tired_: if you are talking samba, you need to configure it
[04:51] <Tired_> I'm trying to use SYnergy to share the moue
[04:51] <ubuntu> lol, your going to laugh
[04:51] <yonkeltron> anyone notice that wiki.kubuntu.org is acting all wierd?
[04:51] <FireJet> Can anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.0
[04:51] <RoboSheep> Tired_: the samba service... yeah what everyone else said
[04:51] <dac> how do I get email encryted, I keep getting these popups saying about to an encrypted area
[04:51] <Tired_> samba is for DNS?
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu in the file manager click on View-> Show Hidden Folder  then you can see the .mozilla folder in the /home/user   directory on the hardisk
[04:51] <flaccid> Tired_: no
[04:51] <naegling23> ubuntu, I have done loads of stupid things, unless it was downloaded 73 gb of porn, then I wont laugh
[04:51] <Tired_> i thought samba was for SMB
[04:51] <flaccid> !samba
[04:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:52] <Tired_> my problem is DNS
[04:52] <ubuntu> I rebooted and left the room..... when I came back my 3 year old was sitting in my chair with the all too familiar grin on his face
[04:52] <flaccid> you never stated dns
[04:52] <flaccid> Tired_: what is the specific/exact problem
[04:52] <Tired_> i said it can't see the kubuntu box on the network
[04:52] <xjkx> what games comes on kubuntu?
[04:52] <flaccid> wtf does see mean?
[04:52] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu lol sweet
[04:52] <naegling23> ubuntu, so basically, you have no idea?
[04:52] <Alonea> hmm...how do you "middle" click on a laptop?
[04:52] <compilerwriter> What did he feed your computer ubuntu?
[04:52] <Tired_> XP box says Address Not Found when I try to access the kubuntu box in Syngery.  The kubuntu box can see the XP box fine.
[04:52] <ubuntu> exactly
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: both left and right click at same time.
[04:53] <CygnusX1> Alonea: left and right silmultaneously
[04:53] <zima> hi, I'm trying out live dvd of Kubuntu, thinking about installing, wanted to check and have a problem with video card - radeon 8500 dv
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: press both buttons at the same time
[04:53] <naegling23> ubuntu, lets try something first
[04:53] <Tired_> see = DNS nam goes somewhere
[04:53] <ubuntu> I asked him what he pushed, and he kept pointing to the space bar
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: are you talking about doing a dns lookup of a lan client?
[04:53] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: ok..but it just pasted the text again...
[04:53] <Tired_> yes!
[04:53] <zima> basically xserver starts in vesa mode
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: see doesn't mean anything. don't use see.
[04:53] <naegling23> what is your linux drive ID, example would be sda1
[04:53] <Tired_> what is a better word?
[04:53] <dac> how does one encrypt?
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: what is the dns server? you need to configure it by adding an A record.
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: that's what a middle click is supposed to do.
[04:53] <jasin> Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?
[04:53] <chemicalvamp> zima yeah you have to follow a guide to install your video cad
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> zima: let me put it this way, ATi sux
[04:54] <flaccid> Tired_: dns resolution
[04:54] <zima> is it representative of how it would work initially from hdd?
[04:54] <Tired_> no DNS server, just computer names
[04:54] <jasin> Without formating that is.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> jasin: it's not an upgrade - it's just installing more packages.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> jasin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <flaccid> Tired_: either configure dns or NetBT w/ Samba
[04:54] <chemicalvamp> lol Linux_Galore got a benchmark to prove that?
[04:54] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: then I don't understand these instructions for the autothing for beryl...
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: were do i start
[04:54] <jasin> LeeJunFan, its a different desktop, configuration, not just mere packages.
[04:54] <zima> chemicalvamp, Linux_Galore: AFAIK Radeon 8500 is one of the best supported by open source drivers GFX cards...
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> well, ati driver support sux in general for starters
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing.
[04:55] <jasin> leejun, ok
[04:55] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore a link to a website that will prove your point
[04:55] <zima> I don't want to use ATI drivers
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: only one has kde one has gnome.
[04:55] <zima> binary ATI drivers*
[04:55] <ubuntu> hdb1
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: but you can have both on the same system as well.
[04:55] <flaccid> kubuntu and ubuntu are not exacty the same thing, but they do share the repos
[04:55] <jasin> leejun, thats like saying linux is linux
[04:55] <naegling23> jasin, actually, kubuntu is just a bunch of different packages, its just that a lot of them control the desktop and stuff
[04:56] <Liptontea> how do i change moniter settings from recovery console
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> zima, then you should be fine as long as you don't want 3d acceleration or anything
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: how about this, you prove to me ATi hasnt got crap drivers for Linux
[04:56] <naegling23> ubuntu: open a terminal, and type sudo mkdir /media/drive
[04:56] <naegling23> ubuntu: then sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/drive
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> jasin: no, they are the same thing, born from the same installing, repos, etc... the difference comes during install when one installs kubuntu-desktop which is a collection of X packages, the other installs ubuntu-desktop which is a collection of Y packages. only difference.
[04:57] <Tired_> am I still here?
[04:57] <naegling23> ubuntu: sudo chroot /media/drive
[04:57] <zima> hitmanWilly: but xserver doesn't even start from live dvd under "normal" mode, I have to use vesa (and open source r200 drivers do have 3D)
[04:57] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore why would you use a linux driver, when you can use the drivers right from the ati website?
[04:57] <naegling23> ubuntu: this gives you a command prompt as you installed user
[04:57] <ses1959_> in media konqueror i open new location and type /dev/sdb1 and get message to pick program
[04:57] <ubuntu> gotcha
[04:58] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i'm sure the folks at kde would highly disagree.
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: from here you can fix it
[04:58] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: you do realise that you said they are the same thing and yet different within the same sentence
[04:58] <ubuntu> ok
[04:58] <ses1959_> what program should i use to view the files
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> zima, hmm, don't use ati myself, not all that familiar with it
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: its a well known fact that the official ATi drivers are crap
[04:58] <Liptontea> i made the resolution 1280x and my monitrt cant run it...how do i fix from console back to 1024x
[04:58] <jasin> kde and gnome are nothing like each other
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> !xorg
[04:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: now comes the tricky part, figuring out what needs to be fixed
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: I'm not saying they are, I'm saying the underlying system is the same, the only difference is the GUI apps.
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Liptontea, see link from ubotu
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:58] <ubuntu> yikes
[04:59] <Liptontea> ty
[04:59] <robin_> hi
[04:59] <Zeddy> if i could ask a quick question (i hope)... Im trying to free up some room in my / (only has a gig left - for some reason).. is it possible that i move /var to another hardrive (a directory) and just create a symbolic link?
[04:59] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  thats semantics for the underlying system of all linux distros is the same, its the kernel.
[04:59] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore i got a $400 nvidia pcie card in my tower, the the onboard radeon on ths laptop smokes it for fps on wow
[05:00] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: i know. but look at your original statement.
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> Zeddy, should be doable
[05:00] <vbgunz> for some reason, maybe I am tripping, Feisty feels much faster than Edgy... this aint a frsh install either, this is an upgrade :)
[05:00] <flaccid> dont call them the same thing, because they are not
[05:00] <specialbuddy> has anyone had a problem with beryl and the menu
[05:00] <tmbg> where are the packages from e.g. apt kept on the disk?
[05:00] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: you mixing windows and Linux into your arguement now so this has gone into the realms of "stupid"
[05:00] <Zeddy> hitmanWilly: ta will try it... need to get some room for a dist-upgrade :(
[05:00] <vbgunz> tmbg: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> jasin: you're missing the point - upgrading ubuntu to kubuntu, it's no more an upgrade than installing openoffice is on a windows machine alongside MS Office.
[05:01] <ubuntu> its now asking me a question
[05:01] <naegling23> ubuntu: whats the question?
[05:01] <jasin> I agree with Linux_Galore, os debates are stupid.
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore no you said windows drivers
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> Zeddy, good luck
[05:01] <ubuntu> its long..
[05:01] <specialbuddy> does anyone have a problem with beryl?
[05:01] <ubuntu> I'll paistbin it
[05:01] <Zeddy> ta
[05:01] <flaccid> lets move on...
[05:01] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  I dont use openoffice.
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: no I said ATi sux, last I looked this was a Linux room
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy its a pain and it eats up alot of cpu
[05:02] <naegling23> ubuntu: ok
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: I never mentioned anything about wincrap
[05:02] <specialbuddy> well I was wondering why I can't see my windows menu
[05:02] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i wont debate windows vs. linux.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> jasin: And I don't use gnome/ubuntu-desktop, but the point remains the same.
[05:02] <ubuntu> !pastebin
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  find someone else to debate, thanks.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> jasin: I'm not either, I'm using it as an example.
[05:02] <specialbuddy> has anyone else had a problem with the menu bar and baryl?
[05:02] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958/
[05:02] <specialbuddy> beryl
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, have you tried in #ubuntu-effects?
[05:03] <jasin> LeeJunFan, well its a pretty poor example since office is not windows specific it does run on macs as well.
[05:03] <vbgunz> KDE4 is going to rock!
[05:03] <specialbuddy> is there a room called that
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, they're the beryl experts
[05:03] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: ati do have official drivers for Linux but they are total crap
[05:03] <flaccid> Linux_Galore: they work fine for me.
[05:03] <specialbuddy> cool
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> jasin: and gnome and kde run on other unixlike/unix systems too.
[05:03] <Liptontea> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom  wont run this..... "no such file or directory...i tried it minus the sudo since its at root prompt
[05:03] <RoboSheep> Did evolution mail break in the upgrade?
[05:03] <flaccid> and they work fine for lots of people
[05:03] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore look up "official drivers" and both my laptop AND tower run feisty
[05:03] <Liptontea> neither runs
[05:04] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i'm done debating you.
[05:04] <specialbuddy> thank you hitmanWilly
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> np
[05:04] <vbgunz> gnome apps looks excellent in Kubuntu 7.04
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, i thinked they fixed a lot of gtk compatibility issues
[05:04] <vbgunz> if only I could swap out those pesty gnome dialog boxes for the native KDE ones
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> jasin: there's no debate - you asked a question, I answered and explained the differences between ubuntu/kubuntu. I don't see the problem other than your willingness to argue and run.
[05:05] <naegling23> ubuntu: select n
[05:05] <jasin> LeeJunFan, i'm ignoring you.
[05:05] <ubuntu> k
[05:05] <flaccid> moving on
[05:05] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  goodbye
[05:05] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: they've done a wonderful job then because Gnome apps looked somewhat broken in Edgy
[05:05] <naegling23> ubuntu: were you in the process of installing/upgrading when this happened?
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore we can sit here and battle opinions all day long, but if you want to see what is beter go online and check the benchmarks for yourself
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, that was actually a qt vs. gtk issue
[05:06] <Tired_> wow...this is really frustrating and unrewarding
[05:06] <Whopper> does anyone here use fiesty?
[05:06] <flaccid> ok this is kubuntu support chan y0
[05:06] <ubuntu> very good question!!!
[05:06] <flaccid> Whopper: yes. and with cheese
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> with cheese?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> :)
[05:06] <jasin> I wont debate desktops, OSs, distros,etc .. thats stupid stuff. There are difference, no two are the same!
[05:06] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: once the gnome dialogs get replaced, using gnome apps that require them would be that much better :)
[05:06] <Whopper> flaccid: if it's not too much to ask, can i have your sources.list? Mine is not working for some reason
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> yet you keep talking.
[05:06] <Linux_Galore_> chemicalvamp: the only benchmarks out here are for Windows, I dont run windows so its a none issues especially in this room, last batch of Ati/Nvidia Linux becnhmarks i saw showed ATi to be slower
[05:06] <Linux_Galore_> there*
[05:07] <flaccid> !source-o-matic > Whopper
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, well, some apps can be compiled with qt vs. gtk support, ask any gentoo user :)
[05:07] <Tired_> why won't aarok prompt me to install mp3 support now?  i'm ready to actually do it, but it won't ask
[05:07] <Tired_> amarok
[05:07] <Whopper> oh
[05:07] <BluesKaj> gents and gentilles , seems quite a bit of disagreement happening ...bloodsugar is getting low ...take a break and have bite to eat :)
[05:07] <Whopper> well then
[05:07] <Whopper> nevermind :P
[05:07] <vbgunz> heh, let my skills boil over first, probably another couple of years :)
[05:07] <ubuntu> someone stepped me through the process, claiming it was easier to upgrade through his 'steps' from dapper to the next one
[05:07] <Linux_Galore_> chemicalvamp: also there is no FOSS 3D driver project for ATi but there is for nvidia
[05:08] <ubuntu> ever since then, the system has been shakey
[05:08] <vbgunz> whats the beef?
[05:08] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: isn't there the radeon and ati drivers from xorg
[05:08] <jasin> I don't play games so having the latest or fastest graphics card is meaningless to me.
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, that installs all those codecs
[05:08] <flaccid> they work fine as well
[05:08] <ubuntu> even the video (nvidia 128 meg)
[05:08] <naegling23> ubuntu: problem is being fixed, sounds like your install was interupted, you prob. dont have all the files updated, the system is looking for things that dont exist
[05:08] <BluesKaj> ATI just released new Radeon drivers today if anyone cares to check them out
[05:08] <ubuntu> ok
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> I'm running open source ATI drivers with beryl right now.
[05:08] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: yes but not 3D
[05:09] <naegling23> ubuntu, when the dpkg thing is done enter this
[05:09] <flaccid> define 3D
[05:09] <ubuntu> konsole is really going at it
[05:09] <ubuntu> I hope this will get my speed back
[05:09] <naegling23> ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:09] <ubuntu> my syssstem slowed down quite a bit also
[05:09] <Linux_Galore_> Nvidia 3D open source drivers -> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[05:09] <ubuntu> normally screems
[05:09] <jasin> If I want to play games i'll get an xbox or playstation.
[05:09] <Alonea> ok, I am following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732 , but I have KDE, not gnome, so how do I make it for KDE?
[05:09] <kalorin`> blueskaj I just got mine working :(
[05:10] <naegling23> ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2504836#post2504836 I just fixed a similar problem to you
[05:10] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: OpenGL works in an accelerated enviroment
[05:10] <BluesKaj> it's a basically a self installer pkg , kalorin`
[05:10] <ubuntu> ok
[05:10] <naegling23> ubuntu: dont follow the post though, Its not really your problem
[05:11] <kalorin`> BluesKaj: yeah I have an x700 with a DVI adn VGA output with a monitor on each
[05:11] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: so glxgears would be an example of that?
[05:11] <kalorin`> it's a pain in the ass to get the X desktop working correctly on that across both monitors
[05:11] <kalorin`> not sure I'm ready to do it again :(
[05:11] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: no, glxgears isnt 3D last I looked
[05:11] <Alonea> like, what would I change gnome-session to?
[05:11] <vit> hola
[05:11] <unix_infidel> anyone here tried running fiesty in vmware and got a couple of freezes upon install?
[05:12] <Tired_> I can't get over how difficult it is to get Windows and Linux to seamlessly cooperate...it seems like it's always easier to have all Windows or all LInux on your network.
[05:12] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: whats a test program i can use to see if '3D' works?
[05:12] <ubuntu> done
[05:12] <unix_infidel> flaccid: glxgears
[05:12] <vit> hi
[05:12] <vbgunz> does "ubuntu-restricted-extras" include DVD support?
[05:12] <Liptontea> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:12] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: hmm run bzflag without stutter
[05:12] <kalorin`> flaccid: fgl_glxgears is
[05:12] <Liptontea> that fixed
[05:12] <kalorin`> not sure if that's an ATI thing though
[05:12] <Liptontea> ty
[05:12] <BluesKaj> 2 monitors , ok ... i don't see the need , but whatever turns you on ...   :)
[05:12] <jasin> The drivers for the 8500 to the x1900 were not released today they were released on the 18th, see: http://ati.amd.com
[05:12] <vit> p9udyu78hgo0
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> Linux_Galore_: I'm running beryl just fine with open source radeon drivers.
[05:13] <ubuntu> dont see any restricted
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> Linux_Galore_: granted not all cards are supported.
[05:13] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: what is bzflag?
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> !info bzflag
[05:13] <ubotu> bzflag: a 3D first person tank battle game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8.20060605ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 10204 kB, installed size 13468 kB
[05:13] <Tired_> a game
[05:13] <vbgunz> bzflag is a 3D game
[05:13] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: its a 3D opengl game
[05:13] <flaccid> ok
[05:14] <flaccid> i might have to wait till i get to work
[05:14] <naegling23> ubuntu: reboot, and try to log into your system (not from the cd)
[05:14] <Tired_> is tuxracer still around?  I used to love that....
[05:14] <flaccid> but i swear opengl works on this driver
[05:14] <BluesKaj> gamerz...get an xbox ...bah!
[05:14] <chemicalvamp> is there a guide for installing ati drivers on feisty yet?
[05:14] <ubuntu> ok
[05:14] <unix_infidel> anyone for my vmware question?
[05:14] <ubuntu> wait
[05:14] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: I use it to test the performance of the drivers, it shows a fps in game
[05:14] <naegling23> ubuntu: if you dont have any luck, write down the chroot stuff I told you earlier
[05:14] <kalorin`> unix_infidel: go ahead
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> unix_infidel: you are installing feisty in vmware? or vmware in feisty?
[05:14] <chemicalvamp> unix_infidel shoot
[05:14] <Tired_> sorry, I only use VMWare for weird OSes, like plan9
[05:14] <jasin> chemicalvamp,  yes, see: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.36.5-inst.html
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, it should be the same as edgy, more or less
[05:15] <ubuntu> let me give you some errors that I saw
[05:15] <unix_infidel> I'm running feisty on vmware server.
[05:15] <ubuntu> chroot?
[05:15] <naegling23> Ubuntu: if you chroot, you can fix the problem, the only issue is knowing the commands to type, but someone should be able to help you with those
[05:15] <BluesKaj> chemicalvamp, the latest are selfinstalling just do   ./ atidrivername.run
[05:15] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly nope lol, xserver wont boot with the changes you make to xorg.conf
[05:15] <Linux_Galore_> flaccid: all the foss drivers Ive ever tried with bzflag with ati or nvidia stutter
[05:15] <kalorin`> unix_infidel: I run it for windows on linux
[05:15] <vbgunz> does "ubuntu-restricted-extras" include DVD support?
[05:15] <jasin> chemicalvamp,  yes, see: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.36.5-inst.html
[05:15] <LeeJunFan> unix_infidel: hrm, I am as well, but I installed with debootstrap, and shared it over NFS and network boot mine.
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, well nvidia was the same, i figured ati worked like that too :)
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, but again, it IS ati
[05:16] <Tired_> vbgunz -> I'll tell ya as soon as it finishes installing  :)
[05:16] <jasin> vlc will do dvd
[05:16] <naegling23> ubuntu: once you get to the terminal, someone can help you, for some reason a lot of people dont realize that you can use the live cd to get there, so mounting the drive and sudo chroot /media/drive can be very important
[05:16] <unix_infidel> hmm, i think i'll just install it on a physical box once i get a new power supply
[05:16] <soulrider_> hi everyone
[05:16] <vbgunz> Tired_: cool, thank you :)
[05:16] <surgy> hitmanWilly: we have multiple problems :(
[05:16] <ubuntu> ok
[05:16] <kalorin`> jeepers, 50megs of a driver
[05:16] <Tired_> might be a while...last install took two hours, but I'm doing it now
[05:16] <flaccid> im on freebsd using the radeon driver atm, i'll test that first
[05:16] <kalorin`> insane
[05:16] <naegling23> ubuntu: did dpkg still spit back some errors?
[05:17] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: nexuiz is 3D. it runs fine with the open drivers
[05:17] <srihari> Kubuntu 7.04 on Asus M2A-VM anybody? (it's an AMD690G, with integrated Radeon X1250). Xorg H/W accelerated 2D with open drivers?
[05:17] <srihari> With KVM also?
[05:17] <ubuntu> yes allot
[05:17] <jasin> No one wants to port games over to linux because 70% of all gamers are on xbox, wii, playstations, and windows.
[05:18] <soulrider_> !info kooka
[05:18] <ubotu> kooka: scanner program for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 743 kB, installed size 1204 kB
[05:18] <newGuy> Can anyone help me with writting a simple shell script?
[05:18] <ubuntu> !pastebin
[05:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <Tired_> jasin -> catch-22...the gmers are there cuz theres no games
[05:18] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: is opengl and sdl 3d?
[05:18] <soulrider_> jasin: there are some awesome games for linux
[05:18] <BluesKaj> i hope they fixed kooka ...it sucks on my scanner
[05:18] <jasin> Tired_,  not really, people were gaming on those things long before there ever was a ubuntu
[05:18] <kalorin`> newGuy: I do some shell scripting
[05:18] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16959/
[05:18] <kalorin`> what do you need?
[05:19] <david_> Hello!  I have a question.  How do I install my Nvidia video card on Kubuntu?  The gnome ubuntu did it automatically, but I have no idea what to do in Kubuntu
[05:19] <Tired_> but not long before there was a linux
[05:19] <soulrider_> BluesKaj: it detects my dads canner, the name and everything, but it doesnt scan :P
[05:19] <jasin> soulrider, true but their few and far between
[05:19] <soulrider_> ubuntu:  could you please change that name ? =/
[05:19] <Alonea> also, how do you add a script to your "Session Startup Programs" list
[05:19] <Tired_> lol, he's been ubuntu all day now
[05:19] <ubuntu> sure...how?
[05:19] <aro> Type /nick name
[05:19] <ubuntu> haha
[05:19] <aro> Where name is your new name
[05:20] <ubuntu> ok
[05:20] <naegling23> ubuntu: wow, those are some errors!
[05:20] <Tired_> is tere a purely social IRC for kubuntu users anywhere?
[05:20] <soulrider_> !ntfs
[05:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:20] <BluesKaj> soulrider_, kooka works on myscanner, but the results are pretty bad vs the windows program (I hate to admit )
[05:20] <ubuntu> yeah
[05:21] <david_> Anybody know how I can get my video card to install correctly?  It did it by itself on the standard gnome ubuntu but not on the KDE Kubuntu...
[05:21] <jasin> tired, not true, nitendo has been around since 1983
[05:21] <naegling23> ubuntu: you were upgrading from dapper to?
[05:21] <ubuntu> I   keep getting errors when I try to change my nic name
[05:21] <flaccid> Linux_Galore_: i just installed bzflag. runs fine!!
[05:22] <ubuntu> the next one
[05:22] <ubuntu> forgot the name
[05:22] <naegling23> ubuntu "edgy"?
[05:22] <ubuntu> yes
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> david_: what kind of video card do you have?
[05:22] <david_> I think it's a gforce 6200...
[05:22] <Alonea> anyone?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> Tired_, #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <ubuntu> my sources have edgy supositories
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> david_: you could try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg' and see if that get's X up and running.
[05:23] <kalorin`> -p high?
[05:23] <david_> I'll try that LeejunFan... :) thx
[05:23] <naegling23> ubuntu: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and verify that all of them have been changed
[05:24] <jasin> Kernel 1.0.0  wasn't even released until March 14th 1994.
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> kalorin`: only asks questions with high priority - guesses most of the mundane things - w/o -p high -p critical it's going to ask a TON of questions about setting up X.
[05:25] <naegling23> ubuntu: you can always try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but that might give you feisty....
[05:25] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16962/
[05:26] <david_> Okay.. I'm in the "Configuring xserver xorg" thing in the terminal... Which driver should I select?
[05:26] <ubuntu> well, I was told that could be trouble if I did that
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> david_: there should be an nv or nvidea I would imagine, unfortunately (and I really mean that) I only have ATI systems.
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> nvidia that is.
[05:27] <kalorin`> ah ok
[05:27] <vbgunz> ubuntu, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[05:27] <naegling23> ubuntu: possibly, its not the greatest, but if you missed one of the reposotories, you could have massive problems
[05:27] <kalorin`> must finish homework before getting into 6 hour battle with ATI drivers
[05:28] <[Relic] > !nvidia
[05:28] <Alonea> kalorin`: I just used envy to install my ati fglrx drivers
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:28] <vbgunz> I ran into a big problem upgrading from Edgy to Feisty, though it turns out I just had to uninstall ipython .73 for some reason then my upgrade went just fine
[05:28] <Tired_> ... I thought Java was spposed to come with Feisty
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> kalorin`: hehe. I gave up on the ATI drivers, as well as ATI and AMD in all. I'll not buy their equipment again until they change their Linux procedures.
[05:28] <Alonea> kalorin`: it basically does what is in that how to for you
[05:28] <kalorin`> envy huh?
[05:28] <david_> Okay... Thanks... I did that and selected a 1280x1024 resolution...
[05:28] <david_> But i'm still in 800x600
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> kalorin`: I just use the open source ones.
[05:28] <kalorin`> yeah
[05:29] <kalorin`> I would but I started down this road and I don't really know about going back
[05:29] <ubuntu> sorry had to leave the room
[05:29] <kalorin`> and this system is going to have a finite lifetime
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> david_: hrm. can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:29] <ubuntu> how do I find out what I have?
[05:29] <Alonea> kalorin`: yeah, http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> !paste | david_
[05:29] <ubotu> david_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <kalorin`> I want to upgrade, I don't really mind the ATI stuff all things considered, and it's an Athlon 64 system so I don't mind that stuff too much
[05:29] <jasin> Console gaming was around long before windows, mac, and linux gaming.
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> ubuntu: cat /etc/issue
[05:29] <kalorin`> the core 2 duo's 6320 is where I think i'mg oing to go
[05:30] <Kansi> will you try the fluxbuntu?
[05:30] <kalorin`> fluxbuntu?
[05:30] <Kansi> yeah...
[05:30] <kalorin`> dogbuntu
[05:30] <kalorin`> catbuntu
[05:30] <kalorin`> getting crazy
[05:30] <ubuntu> 6.06 lts
[05:30] <Kansi> yeap
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> kalorin`: my current 3 home systems are all ATI/AMD, but I'm just fed up with ATI's failed promises and lack of good drivers for Linux.
[05:31] <kalorin`> leejun, their drivers seem to work fine, it's just installing them
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> ubuntu: that's dapper
[05:31] <ubuntu> yeah I know
[05:31] <jasin> if i needed speed i'd run xubuntu not flux.
[05:31] <ubuntu> I   thought I was upgrading
[05:31] <ubuntu> lol
[05:31] <naegling23> ubuntu: I would make sure all reposotories say edgy instead of dapper, if they dont, change them
[05:31] <[Relic] > envy work for nvidia in 7.04?
[05:31] <naegling23> relic, yes
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> kalorin`: I run on a laptop, and it seems every other release breaks suspend to RAM which I really can't stand not having. As well as their driver not supporting composit extensions.
[05:32] <ubuntu> I didnt see any that said dapper
[05:32] <cobrien> How do I change the max resolution on a box?   It's at 800x600 right now...  I want it at 1280..  it's something like apt-get install pkg_reconfigure_xorg or something like that isn't it?
[05:32] <ubuntu> I put it in pastebin just to make sure I didnt miss anything
[05:33] <naegling23> ubuntu: I can only see the first few lines, you would need to scroll down
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[05:33] <kalorin`> oh yeah I dont' care much about beryl or whatever, so composite to me means nothing
[05:33] <kalorin`> haven't found anything that I need it for
[05:33] <ubuntu> oh ok
[05:34] <[Relic] > how do I install the .deb then?
[05:34] <cobrien> leejunfan: cool... thx...  Was that an option when I installed using the alternate cd?
[05:34] <ubuntu> I closed out
[05:34] <ubuntu> what was the command again?
[05:34] <bobesponja> hey
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: it should have been, but easily missed if you don't pay attention when going thru the X config.
[05:34] <kdawg> heres a question, in system settings>monitor>hardware, it still says I am using the nv driver with my nvidia 6800, and I have the proprietary driver installed... what gives?
[05:34] <bobesponja> I've just upgraded from edgy to feisty
[05:34] <kdawg> Relic: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:34] <AmyRose> bobesponja: How do you like it?
[05:34] <david_> Here's the pastebin you asked for LeeJunFan... Thanks:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16963/
[05:34] <naegling23> sudo nano /etc/apt sources.lst
[05:35] <cobrien> leejunfan: ahh...  I think I did miss it...  dpkg-reconfigure appears to be used often...  is that so?
[05:35] <ubuntu> holly carp
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: mostly for X, there are times it's handy for other things but not often used as it is for xserver.
[05:35] <ubuntu> crap
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> david_: that's odd - it should be in 1024x768, the X config looks right.
[05:36] <ubuntu> there is nothing there
[05:36] <bobesponja> AmyRose: my mouse doesn't work as before, I can't open tabs by clicking on the mouse wheel and I can't past by clicking on the mouse wheel
[05:36] <bobesponja> AmyRose: something bad happened with my mouse during the upgrade
[05:36] <bobesponja> AmyRose: any idea what might it be?
[05:36] <ubuntu> says "no buffer"''
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> david_: ah, but you wanted 1280.
[05:37] <david_> ok.... Well, I guess I might go off and try to find a driver directly from Nvidia or something... I'm pretty new to linux, so I don't know much about getting this working...
[05:37] <naegling23> ubuntu: i have no idea what that means
[05:37] <david_> Yeah I have a huge monitor that only looks right in 1280 lol
[05:38] <LeeJunFan> david_: you may have misschecked the one you wanted? you can run the dpkg-reconfigure again or you can manually edit xorg.conf and add "1280x1024" to the line under Depth 24, then of course restart X
[05:38] <AmyRose> bobesponja: What sort of mouse do you have?
[05:38] <cobrien> Oh baby... here comes Beryl!
[05:38] <ubuntu> this is crazy
[05:38] <david_> Oh cool... Thanks.. :)  I'll try that
[05:38] <ubuntu> how can it just disappear
[05:38] <bobesponja> AmyRose: usb genius optical
[05:38] <morphinex> howdy folks, is there a konqueror channel?
[05:39] <david_> bbl for now...
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> morphinex: not really, but if you have some very specific KDE type questions maybe #kde would be a good place?
[05:39] <cobrien> morph: not that I know of, but there is a KDE channel, i think.
[05:39] <naegling23> ubunut: i dont know if it disappeared, you just got a buffer error...whatever that means
[05:39] <morphinex> thanks, i'll try it
[05:39] <cobrien> amyrose: have you ever seen the 3m RenMouse?  :)
[05:39] <ubuntu> out of memory?
[05:39] <ubuntu> I'm still on live cd
[05:40] <naegling23> ubuntu: I would try a reboot and see if you can get anywhere, you might be able to get back to X and fix things from there
[05:40] <xjkx> you sure that add/remove thing on kubuntu is app-install-data ? i installed it here on debian (using ubuntu source) and there was no binaries ! there is one with binaries, gnome-app-install, but this one surely is not Kde things
[05:41] <naegling23> ubuntu: you dont need your sources.lst except for stuff like updates, you can find some sources.lst files online and stuff
[05:41] <ubuntu> ok, wish me luck
[05:41] <ubuntu> ok
[05:41] <ubuntu> out...
[05:41] <bobleny> Hey, does it hurt anything if I run "apt-get upgrade" in one session window and other commands in another window?
[05:41] <naegling23> ubuntu: good luck, im heading to bed, i wont be here when you get back
[05:41] <ubuntu> ok, thanks for your help
[05:41] <bobleny> While it's running I mean...
[05:41] <naegling23> ubuntu: hopefully someone else can finish it off, your on the right path
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bobleny: as long as the other commands aren't killall apt-get or reboot type of commands - no.
[05:42] <bobleny> Ok
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> bobleny: you won't be able to run other apt-get's, but any other type of thing is fine.
[05:43] <Alonea> whats the adept fix thing? I can't get into it now.
[05:43] <bobleny> Ok
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> !adeptcrashfix
[05:43] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:43] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues with upgrading to feisty from edgy???
[05:43] <Alonea> The APT Database could not be opened! is that the thing that fixes?
[05:43] <sstchur> has anyone else experienced adept notifier acting rather odd with beryl running?
[05:43] <bobleny> One other question though....
[05:43] <bobleny> Does anyone in here have truecrypt for linux? If so, could you tell me how to create a volume with a password and a keyfile? When I use "truecrypt -c", I go through the prompts just fine, but then it promts me for "Enter keyfile path [finish] :". If I hit enter, it has a fatil error, other wise, it won't stop promptimg me for it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've looked through the man file over and over... Could someone help?
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> sstchur, yes, its a bug in it
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: it should.
[05:44] <Yorokobi> bobleny, read the manual, its pretty clear
[05:44] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: didn't work
[05:44] <Tired_> ... I thought Java was spposed to come with Feisty.  how come  have to download it?
[05:44] <bobleny> I Yorokobi, I have and not it didn't help.
[05:44] <carutsu> just a question too many fonts slow down linux too?
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, legal issues
[05:44] <Cosmo_> I was attempting to upgrade my mother's laptop from 6.10 to 7.04 and I am not sure what she did but when I boot up now on it it goes to the command line and says "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" any way to fix this?
[05:45] <Tired_> oh.  lame
[05:45] <cobrien> Alright!   My mouse cursor disappeared... It still selects things and I can click them, but I can't see it.
[05:45] <sdlnxgk> Cosmo I get the same thing
[05:45] <sstchur> hitmanWilly: I've just been killing it... is there any workaround?
[05:45] <cobrien> I turned on Beyrl and my screen went white...  I had to kill the WM...  yay!
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> sstchur, not that im aware of, i usually do the same thing
[05:46] <sdlnxgk> Cosmo I get the same message but also says something about can't find /dev/hdb1 which is my primary hard drive
[05:46] <[Relic] > !sensors
[05:46] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> sstchur, when im running beryl, that is :)
[05:46] <cobrien> Anyone know how to restart my mouse daemon or something?
[05:46] <phyerboss> Cosmo: just do a full reinstall to 7.04...I ran into issues during the upgrade myself
[05:46] <srihari> Cosmo_, are /dev/tty* exist?
[05:46] <phyerboss> so I burnt the 7.04 CD and ran that
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: hrm, dunno - maybe try asking in #ubuntu since it's an apt problem, there are more people there - more chance someone might know.
[05:47] <sdlnxgk> phyerboss: the only thing is I really would like to back up my stuff before doing a full install
[05:47] <Cosmo_> phyerboss: thanks
[05:47] <sstchur> hitmanWilly: ok, well it's comforting to know i'm not the only one
[05:47] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: ok.
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: there really isn't a mouse deamon in X.
[05:47] <phyerboss> good point!...sorry Cosmo
[05:47] <_ron> Hello. How can I check to see what version I am running/
[05:47] <phyerboss> be sure to back everything up^^
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> !bug
[05:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:47] <sdlnxgk> phyerboss: is there any way to go back to edgy???
[05:48] <phyerboss> I could not say, as i myself am still new to it all
[05:48] <phyerboss> i just know that when i did the update/upgrade it went haywire
[05:48] <phyerboss> due to broken packages that were still in my apt cache thingie
[05:48] <phyerboss> heh
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> any GURU's here tonight??? is there a way to go back to edgy after trying upgrade to feisty??
[05:49] <phyerboss> so, the best option was using the cd
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> I just should have said no I don't want to upgrade..
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> Edgy was running great :)
[05:49] <phyerboss> as for jumping back to a previous ver...i cant say=\
[05:49] <phyerboss> well for 1 of us
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: short answer == no.
[05:49] <phyerboss> heh
[05:50] <srihari> _ron, not sure what version you're after. If it's ubuntu/kubuntu etc., then it displays the version at the console. ctrl_alt+f1 if you're in X already.
[05:50] <phyerboss> mine's was a tad probelematic
[05:50] <phyerboss> fiesty is awesome
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: even if I change the sources.list back to edgy and upgrade??
[05:50] <phyerboss> everything i was having issues with BAM! Fixed right out the box
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: that wont work because the dependancies won't follow things backwards where a package provides another package, etc...
[05:51] <phyerboss> EXCEPT: I still cant stream any media files over my network!
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> maybe maybe i'll  download while on live cd and back up my stuff to my other drives while I can :)
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: your best bet at this point would be to tackle the problems you have with feisty.
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> phyerboss: just had got that fixed was using icecast2 and mpd to stream ;)
[05:52] <phyerboss> so you can play mp3's and movie files from one pc on your network to another?
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: did all the updates but for some odd reason says it can't find my hard drive..
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: cant find your HD? does it boot?
[05:52] <phyerboss> because i d/l'ed plugin after plugin...nuthin
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> phyerboss: never tried movies before...  you might want to use vlc viewer for that...
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: it's probably got to do with the UUID stuff.
[05:53] <phyerboss> hmm
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> !uuid
[05:53] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:53] <Alonea> its like, I can do apt-get update, and thats it.
[05:53] <mike________--> hey
[05:54] <maniac> hey guys
[05:54] <mike________--> i'm having this kind of odd problem
[05:54] <maniac> sup?
[05:54] <maniac> first time on irc....
[05:54] <mike________--> yeah
[05:54] <riggatoney> wlcome
[05:54] <maniac> trying out the kubuntu live cd
[05:54] <maniac> thx
[05:54] <mike________--> when i launch firefox it opens the clear private data window and i click clear and it really doesn't do anything
[05:54] <mike________--> and firefox crashes
[05:55] <maniac> close that window
[05:55] <_ron> !upgrade
[05:55] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:55] <mike________--> i've purged it and reinstalled
[05:55] <maniac> then click ctrl+shift+delete
[05:55] <_ron> Will that work to upgrade from breezy?
[05:55] <mike________--> i guess
[05:55] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: could this be the problem? I do not have a gpg.conf file in /home/alonea/.gnupb/
[05:55] <mike________--> lol you're still using breezy?
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> mike________--: if you don't have any bookmarks,passwords saved you can't lose try removing ~/.mozilla
[05:55] <maniac> damn, jubuntu is nice
[05:56] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: it boots but says something about can't find "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"
[05:56] <mike________--> k
[05:56] <maniac> what version u all using?
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: I don't think so - that shouldnt' stop it from working - only make it complain.
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: you don't have your own kernel compiled do you?
[05:56] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: ok, wait, I checked and it exists, but if I try to open it with a text thing in the terminal it says not found...
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: maybe permissions are messed up somehow in your ~?  'sudo chown -R [username]  /home/[username] ' will fix that
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> ownership I mean.
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> sdlnxgk, you can always use ln to create it
[05:58] <bobleny> Does anyone in here have truecrypt for linux? If so, could you tell me how to create a volume with a password and a keyfile? When I use "truecrypt -c", I go through the prompts just fine, but then it promts me for "Enter keyfile path [finish] :". If I hit enter, it has a fatil error, other wise, it won't stop promptimg me for it. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've looked through the man file over and over... Could someone help?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> sdlnxgk, /bin/sh is just a link to a cmd shell anyway
[05:59] <Cosmo_> anyone have a link to the 7.04 desktop torrent ?
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> hitmanWilly: that could be his problem, maybe it linked to dash and dash isn't installed.
[05:59] <shawn34> Cosmo_, ubunyu.com
[05:59] <newuser> hello
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> LeeJunFan, i always manually link mine to bash anyway
[05:59] <cobrien> Ok...  I've done the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:00] <newuser> i am trying to setup uspalsh but with no luck
[06:00] <cobrien> Now what do I do?   KDE still doesn't offer the option of changing the rez.
[06:00] <cobrien> The max is still 800
[06:00] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: /bin/sh links to /bin/dash by default now instead of bash, so if dash is somehow missing or the link didn't get created you may need to make a link for /bin/sh
[06:00] <loki_> so i upgraded to 7.04 and now i can't get into kde :|
[06:00] <LeeJunFan> hitmanWilly: me too.
[06:00] <steve_> bobbleny, I use TrueCrypt extensively.  One problem I should alert you to is that the newest version of Ubuntu (Feisty) has kernel issues with TrueCrypt.  What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:00] <newuser> has anyone setup uspalsh on kubuntu 7.04
[06:00] <loki_> err kdm or whatever doesn't load after getting 7.04
[06:01] <Cosmo_> shawn34: duh, don't know why I didn't think to just check that, too easy I guess  =)
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> loki_: do you get any GUI stuff or just the text console?
[06:01] <loki_> i get that loading gui
[06:01] <loki_> and then kicks me to the command line
[06:01] <Jisao> How to I find the IP address of a URL?
[06:01] <loki_> right now there's just a blinking cursor
[06:01] <bobleny> steve_: I am using edgy eft.
[06:01] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: when I do sudo apt-get update there are some edgy sources mixed in there. could that be it?
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> loki_: try reconfiguring X with this command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg'
[06:02] <loki_> ok
[06:02] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: I suppose it's possible, but I've never seen that error so I'm not really sure what the cause is of it.
[06:02] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: How would I stop it from looking at the edgy source its looking at? its not in my sources.list
[06:03] <newuser> usplash bootsplash anyone ?   i am unable to setup usplash on kubuntu 7.04 , anyone has had luck with it ?
[06:03] <ubuntu> I'm back and its a no go
[06:03] <loki_> ok same blinking cursor again
[06:04] <ubuntu> but at least I did gain a command prompt
[06:04] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: i did that, but the KDE's max is still 800.
[06:04] <Alonea> E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header...
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: if they aren't in your sources.list they may be in the sources.d dir?
[06:04] <bobleny> steve_: would it be possible to speak to on a less busy channel? Say #bob?
[06:04] <steve_> bobleny, I'm glad to hear you're running Edgy. TrueCrypt will work with Edgy. (Please don't upgrade to Feisty just yet; they are making some adjustments to TrueCrypt to familiarize it with the new kernel.)  Now, as to your problem, let me ask, did you install from a .deb file, or did you compile it yourself?
[06:05] <maniac> #bob
[06:05] <ubuntu> typed in kde at the prompt: it tried to load, but kicked me out
[06:05] <maniac> anyone here know how to install kubuntu on the hard drive WITHOUT messing up the vista boot config?
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu, try startx
[06:05] <ubuntu> then I typed it again: bad command
[06:05] <maniac> last time i tried.....it erased it
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: hrm, if you have a look at your xorg.conf again, make sure it still says 1280x1024, kde-guidance will try to autodetect your video hardware and can overwrite your X config - something I don't really agree with, but the aim was to make it so people could swap gfx cards and still have a working X.
[06:06] <ubuntu> ahhh, ok
[06:06] <xjkx> you sure that add/remove thing on kubuntu is app-install-data ? i installed it here on debian (using ubuntu source) and there was no binaries ! there is one with binaries, gnome-app-install, but this one surely is not Kde things
[06:06] <ubuntu> reboot again
[06:06] <loki_> ok got it working, had to reinstall the nvidia driver
[06:06] <bobleny> steve_: um... I don't remeber, I belive I belive I downloaded the file from the truecrypt site, and followed a online guide to install it.
[06:06] <steve_> moving to #bob; see you there in a moment.
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> loki_: cool - so you're all set now?
[06:07] <xjkx> could anyone run the add/remove thing and run ps -aux and tell me the exactly name? :D
[06:07] <xjkx> exact*
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> xjkx, adept_installer
[06:07] <xjkx> thanks
[06:08] <maniac> anyone know about a linux version/thing of .NET?
[06:08] <maniac> as in if it exists
[06:08] <maniac> ?
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> !info mono
[06:08] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[06:08] <maniac> what do i use to compile the source?
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> my brain almost imploded trying to remember the name of that. hehe
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> !build
[06:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:09] <maniac> i have like 20 projects i wanna port to linux from .NET
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> oh, to build for .net - I have no idea. Never worked with it - I've been trying to avoid all MS related things for years now.
[06:10] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: sorry for being dull here..  but how do I open kde-guidance?
[06:10] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[06:10] <Shaddox> I have a question.
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: you don't really, it's just something that's run during startup, first you want to make sure that's your problem.
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: if you're xorg.conf still has 1280x1024 then that's probably not your problem.
[06:11] <maniac> "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware" doesn't say anything about compiling Mono
[06:11] <maniac> :P
[06:12] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: yeah...  1280x1024 is the only one on my color depth of 24...  24 is set to default.
[06:12] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: Do you know what preferences file it is talking about?
[06:12] <phyerboss> AAAARGH!!!
[06:12] <phyerboss> Im seriously at the end of my rope here withthis network playback
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: sorry - I must have missed something, I didn't see anything about a preferences file.
[06:13] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: nm, I think I just found it. E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: hrm, this isn't making much sense. Is the 1280x1024 the first one listed (leftmost)? It should start with the one listed to the leftmost.
[06:13] <phyerboss> all i know is when i for the absolute 1st time installed kubuntu & also pclinux on another occasion, I could stream my movies & mp3's over my network from 1 machine to this
[06:14] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: yeah... it's the leftmost one..
[06:14] <phyerboss> now ever since I dropped pclinux and came back to kubuntu, I cannot do it
[06:14] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: might be that my monitor is set too low?
[06:14] <phyerboss> amarok & kaffeine both keep telling me i have missing plugins
[06:14] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: figured it out. pref. file I added was messed up
[06:14] <phyerboss> yet i dont know what they are
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: could be - depending on the monitor, but normally the PC decides the resolution the monitor is "supposed" to follow. However if the monitor reports to the PC that it can't support X resolution then Xorg won't try to use t.
[06:15] <phyerboss> i just about installed any and everything marked "network" as far as mp3, avi, mov, mpeg...etc
[06:15] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: wild...
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: when the monitor is connected it gives the PC a list of resolutions it supports, (if it's vesa compliant - which all new monitors usually are), X should be able to use any of those, but if there's some setting in the monitor that will make it not report that the higher resolutions are available then X won't try to use them.
[06:18] <RoboSheep> I just tried Beryl and my windows' title bars disappeared.
[06:19] <renato> is anyone else's browsing experience with Feisty a lil buggy?
[06:19] <ubuntu> startx took me further
[06:19] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: looks like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any options is taking me through everything.
[06:19] <cobrien> we'll see what happens.
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> RoboSheep: beryl probably crashed, did you install emerald or aquamarine as well?
[06:19] <ubuntu> but still nothing
[06:19] <RoboSheep> Emerald
[06:19] <ubuntu> I am hearing more and more about feisty is 'living up to its name'
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> RoboSheep: beryl has a habbit of crashing sometimes like that, if you have the beryl-manager running (red diamond icon in your task tray) right click and restart window manager.
[06:20] <RoboSheep> ok thanks
[06:20] <sdlnxgk> ok got all booted up on laptop
[06:20] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: got a new message this time when booting up
[06:21] <ubuntu> no probs on dapper, till it started getting 'messed with'
[06:21] <sdlnxgk> Busy box v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[06:22] <renato> I have the overall feeling that Feisty is buggy
[06:22] <cobrien> LeeJunFan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any options is what did it.
[06:22] <sdlnxgk> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[06:22] <ubuntu> thats why Ii'm going to get a fresh install of edgy
[06:22] <phyerboss> hey LeeJunFan, since we're on the Beryl thing, I have it installed as well. I can use the 3d effects but no window borders...is Aquamarine and emerald all you can use?
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> cobrien: odd, but good I guess.
[06:22] <ubuntu> my friends have no probs with it
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> phyerboss: all I've ever used, I like emerald.
[06:23] <renato> yeah, I didn't have probs with it as well
[06:23] <ubuntu> I have dapper, but its too out dated
[06:23] <renato> but I wanted the new thing
[06:23] <phyerboss> hmm...let me try that then
[06:23] <ubuntu> know what you mean
[06:23] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: how can I  link that like you were saying before??
[06:23] <renato> it's buggy, and it doesn't have anything new
[06:24] <ubuntu> I hear that the new suse is nice though
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: well - it dropped you in busybox tells me that initrd didn't finish - what I'd try is booting with init=/bin/bash option, that should get you to a working console where you can make the symlink you need.
[06:24] <ubuntu> keeping my options open
[06:24] <renato> I tried suse, and if you ever had edgy, you'll think it's crap
[06:24] <pdroy> I dont think anything can beat the Ubuntu base
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: so when the grub menu comes up hit e
[06:24] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[06:24] <ubuntu> oh really?
[06:25] <renato> the loader screen on suse is cool though
[06:25] <ubuntu> is edgy that different from dapper?
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: then choose the line with all the kernel options, etc, add init=/bin/bash, hit enter, b to boot, then when it boots do rm -f /bin/sh && ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[06:25] <renato> edgy is a giant leap from dapper
[06:25] <ubuntu> wow
[06:25] <renato> feisty isn't
[06:26] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: I don't never see the grub option when i'ts loading
[06:26] <ubuntu> do you use 32 or 64 bit version?
[06:26] <sdlnxgk> but i'll give a try
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> no, feisty isn't much diff than edgy on the surface, and most of the core changes (under the hood) aren't very noticeable.
[06:26] <renato> sdlnxgk: that is probably because you are not dual booting
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: should have a "hit escape for grub menu" or something to that effect.
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> or that
[06:27] <sdlnxgk> renato: correct I don't have a dual boot system...
[06:27] <Shaddox> Hi everyone again ^^
[06:27] <renato> sdlnxgk:  lucky you, lol
[06:27] <david_> Hello again... i edited xorg.conf, but it won't let me save it because I'm not the root user.... i'm sure there's a simple way to get around this...
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> sdlnxgk: it should have the "hit escape" message for 3 or 5 sec before it boots then.
[06:28] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan:  will give that a try  right now then ;)
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> !sudo | david
[06:28] <ubotu> david: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:28] <Alonea> ok, I installed the XGL, but when I put in beryl in the terminal, it says AIGLX...
[06:28] <renato> david_: but this time type sudo before everything you did
[06:28] <sdlnxgk> I have win xp  this  laptop only for my g/f she is a non linux user and needs it for her work at school
[06:28] <david_> hmm....
[06:29] <adydas> Whats a good image batch resizeing program
[06:29] <renato> david_: if you didn't use a terminal you probably tried to write the file with kate or something
[06:29] <adydas> KDE based
[06:29] <david_> LOL yeah exactly......
[06:29] <ubuntu> ok folks, good night
[06:30] <renato> david_: if you are running kubuntu, you shoul right click on the file, and go to "actions" and then click on "edit as root"
[06:30] <ubuntu> nice talking to you renato
[06:30] <ubuntu> later
[06:30] <sdlnxgk> Night ubuntu
[06:30] <renato> you too ubuntu
[06:30] <david_> sweet... edit as root
[06:31] <renato> there you go david_
[06:31] <sdlnxgk> I like using kdesu <program_name> to run as root ;)
[06:32] <david_> ahhh success
[06:32] <userbn> halo
[06:32] <renato> nice dave
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> LeeJunFan: no  good hitting esc only changes from 1 to 0 and still stalls and gives that same message
[06:32] <userbn> nick ku jadi apaan yha?
[06:32] <renato> don't forget to tip your waiter
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[06:33] <renato> not in a gay way, lol
[06:35] <phyerboss> well, that "borked" bad^^...still getting boderless windows...even worse, now I cant see my kicker menu
[06:35] <phyerboss> its all blacked out
[06:36] <phyerboss> but i can rotate and zoom^^
[06:36] <phyerboss> hahaha
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, do you use an nvidia card?
[06:36] <phyerboss> yeah
[06:37] <renato> I once had dapper installed on my laptop, and decided to try out the suspend mode, and it crashed so badly I had to reinstall the whole os
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals in a terminal, then restart x
[06:37] <phyerboss> its integrated vid(6100-m9)
[06:37] <renato> since then, I leave everything as it is phyerboss
[06:37] <phyerboss> problem: I cant see anything in the kicker menu to bring up my terminal
[06:38] <lnxkde> nice
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, oh wait, this isn't a beryl issues is it?
[06:38] <lnxkde> Kubuntu and Ubuntu 7.04 wont boot on my desktop
[06:38] <lnxkde> :/
[06:38] <phyerboss> its beryl
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, ok, that will fix the borderless windows
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, alt-f2 then type konsole
[06:39] <Alonea> anyone know anything about beryl? I installed it, but when I put in beryl in the terminal, it says AIGLX, instead of the XGL i installed..
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, will get you a terminal
[06:39] <renato> really? does Kubuntu come with beryl?
[06:39] <phyerboss> hey thanks
[06:40] <adydas> No renato
[06:40] <renato> and it works?
[06:40] <renato> oh, I thought so adydas
[06:41] <phyerboss> hitmanWilly: no good=\
[06:41] <phyerboss> restart x
[06:41] <phyerboss> bash: restart: command not found
[06:42] <phyerboss> thats what I get when I restart x
[06:42] <phyerboss> the previous command you told me, went in fine
[06:42] <phyerboss> it just wont restart the xserver
[06:42] <xjkx> What mp3 player comes on kubuntu by default?
[06:42] <renato> amarok
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> phyerboss, try ctrl-alt-bksp to restart x
[06:43] <renato> sweet if you ask me xjkx
[06:43] <Alonea> "Feisty's X.org 7.2 includes AIGLX, and it's enabled by default." is there a way to disable it?
[06:43] <adydas> renato: do you want kubuntu with Berly
[06:43] <adydas> renato: do you use Nvida?
[06:43] <renato> not at all, thak you adydas
[06:43] <surgy> !iso
[06:43] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:43] <xjkx> renato, sweet, but heard its heavy
[06:43] <adydas> ah ok, i was going to suggest a cool howto
[06:44] <adydas> i got beryl going in 5 command line steps
[06:44] <adydas> with a Nvidia car
[06:44] <adydas> d
[06:44] <renato> I bet it's heavy if you install on ubuntu, because it has to install everything that kde has that gnome doesn't xjkx
[06:44] <xjkx> o.o
[06:44] <renato> I tried suse with compiz preinstalled, and it just didn't do it for me adydas
[06:45] <xjkx> renato, do you know which one comes on ubuntu? I am like comparing
[06:45] <renato> I think amarok is the only thing in K that I am 100% satisfied with
[06:45] <pdroy> renato: thats not a fair analysis
[06:45] <pdroy> that are lot of other things
[06:46] <renato> rhytmbox I believe, xjkx
[06:46] <phyerboss> uh...guess beryl is out the question for me^^
[06:46] <xjkx> never heard about rhytmbox :>
[06:46] <renato> what is pdroy
[06:46] <renato> ??
[06:46] <xjkx> renato, you sure its typed right, couldnt find such package
[06:47] <renato> rhythmbox
[06:47] <pdroy> There are lot of other things than amarok thats good on K, I have fonund most of the times in my office, to work with many other OS in a network K is the best
[06:47] <andrewkk> i just slammed my laptop on the desk; how do i run a disk check on the root partition?
[06:48] <phyerboss> pdroy: what are you using to play music over a network?
[06:48] <renato> I know things are good pdroy, I'm nothing but a Kub lover, but not everything gives me a 100% satisfaction
[06:48] <pdroy> phyerboss: sorry didnt have to do that yet
[06:48] <phyerboss> ok
[06:49] <pdroy> that you re right, renato; I dont like konq for browsing
[06:49] <renato> for example, or Kopete
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> I love konq for browsing - when it works.
[06:49] <adydas> renato: sweet as, to be fair i installed it and i Never use it.. standard KDE does my needs fine unless im showing off
[06:49] <adydas> the novety wears right off
[06:49] <pdroy> am using Kopete now, I used to use Gaim beofre
[06:49] <pdroy> *before
[06:49] <renato> exactly adydas, and it wears off quickly
[06:50] <renato> and you're left with a resource eating monster adydas
[06:51] <pdroy> I have shifted to G more than 3 times and then after a month I finally end up with K :)
[06:51] <renato> yeah, pdroy, but if you've used live messenger or yahoo m, neither Kopete or Gaim will be enough
[06:51] <renato> and that's just because of "being used to" reasons
[06:51] <pdroy> I actually did not know K when I first started with RH, it used to log in to G and I used to think that was Linux, only almost after a year I knew about different Desktops :)
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> pdroy: you're lucky, I started before KDE.
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> pdroy: FVWM and windowmaker were the best available in those days.
[06:52] <renato> I once tried fluxbox, what the hell is that, I couldn't even get it to start a terminal
[06:53] <pdroy> :)
[06:53] <pdroy> I'v tried it too once
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> I don't miss the days of having to use a text editor to edit the menu's. And it was only within the last year I think that gnome finally got a menu editor.
[06:53] <renato> My problem is that I'm a Kubuntu preacher, but not a convert
[06:53] <pdroy> hehehe
[06:54] <pdroy> I was very cunning in my office, I was incharge of choosing the desktop for my department, so I choose K as standard :)
[06:55] <renato> and it's because I know the MS Office like the palm of my hand and I never get the same results with openoffice.org, aside of the part where it keeps crashing and it takes a lifetime to start
[06:55] <pdroy> Even configuring a printer was difficult in G
[06:55] <pdroy> renato: same here, so I got Crossover Office  and then installed MS office
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> My local library wanted Linux, so I gave them a 25 workstations netbooting from an NFS server, all kubuntu.
[06:56] <JackPhil> Hi, it seems apache2 can't stop, and I couldnt upgrade to feisty
[06:56] <renato> and the other passion I have, is animating and I do it with Flash, and what's available for linux, hasn't gotten there
[06:56] <_ron> LeeJunFan: Nice!
[06:56] <_ron> LeeJunFan: Was that difficult to set up?
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> astonishingly people weren't afraid of it, and there have been very little support issues.
[06:57] <renato> does MS office work fine for you, pdroy?
[06:57] <pdroy> It works like a charm
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> _ron: not once I got unionfs to work on the root fs.
[06:57] <renato> on linux, because I wine it, but it has too many bugs
[06:57] <pdroy> OO keeps on crashing all the time for me
[06:57] <pdroy> Wine was a problem, you should try Cross over office
[06:58] <renato> I'll look into it
[06:58] <ozymandias> so, how do we get compiz working in fiesty with kde?
[06:58] <pdroy> www.codeweavers.com/products
[06:58] <renato> thanks! pdroy
[06:58] <pdroy> :)
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> _ron: unionfs was the hardest part, had to hack up initrd's init script to get it to mount everything right, and learning that the preloading used in ubuntu broke unionfs.
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> once I turned off preloading it worked great.
[06:59] <ozymandias> anyone have a link to a guide on getting compiz-kde working?
[06:59] <renato> the other thing is spss, I need it, and I just find R too complicated to do survey analysis
[06:59] <_ron> leejunfan: sounds like a pain. So are all the workstations hard drive-less?
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> !beryl
[06:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> _ron: yeah, HD's are there, but unused.
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> _ron: well, I take that back, they load the pxe image from the HD's because the stupid bios in the machines had a menu for the netboot which I couldn't get around in bios options, so I had it boot the PXE from the hd.
[07:01] <ozymandias> i take that as a no....
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> so I just made a pxe image for the network cards they had and dd'ed it to the first sectors of the HD :)
[07:02] <renato> ozymandias, that meant, try the beryl option
[07:02] <numan> today i switch to kde session through session manager and after i applied the updates it ask me to upgrade to kde 7.04 feisty fawn? i want to ask you people that is it the stable release or still testing?
[07:02] <phyerboss> WOAH!
[07:02] <renato> or do you really really want compiz?
[07:02] <_ron> LeeJunFan: That's still sweet.  Do you know if it is possible to dual boot into a network?
[07:02] <phyerboss> hey! Beryl works now
[07:02] <renato> stable numan
[07:02] <ozymandias> i havent really looked into beryl much, but everything i have seen said compiz is much more stable
[07:02] <achilles> aloha
[07:03] <renato> stable but sucky, lol numan
[07:03] <achilles> anyone aware of Amarok problem after new kernel image update
[07:03] <numan> renato: this means that another testing distribution is released?
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> _ron: yeah, if you mean have grub load on the local HD, and have the option to boot a local OS or a network one? It's doable.
[07:03] <achilles> Amarok is hanging and taking hell lot of time to start
[07:03] <phyerboss> aloha achilles
[07:03] <achilles> that is after update
[07:03] <phyerboss> you in Hawaii?
[07:03] <achilles> hi phyerboss
[07:04] <achilles> lol no am in India
[07:04] <renato> no, numan, it's not thesting anymore
[07:04] <phyerboss> ah
[07:04] <phyerboss> ok
[07:04] <achilles> phyerboss: you have any idea baout the prob
[07:04] <renato> it's 7.04
[07:04] <surgy> ok heres my problem, im on a live cd which will not install, the cd is broken, i have no os, only one cdrw, and a mounted feisty.iso, i need to install feisty from the iso, i need help
[07:04] <numan> renato: whats sucky about it? so i stay away from this upgrade?
[07:04] <achilles> anybody my Amrok is hanging
[07:04] <phyerboss> no idea
[07:04] <phyerboss> it plays fine for me
[07:04] <achilles> it stucks and takes hell lotof time to start
[07:05] <phyerboss> my only issue is playing files over my network
[07:05] <achilles> i tried removing as well
[07:05] <achilles> pdated to 1.4.4 as well
[07:05] <achilles> but no luck
[07:05] <renato> well, for me it's the whole browsing experience, it hangs for some reasons with konqueror and for other reasons with firefox
[07:05] <phyerboss> other than that, everything plays fine
[07:05] <phyerboss> if the files are locally on the machine
[07:05] <renato> OO takes like six million years to load
[07:05] <achilles> it was working good earlier its just recently the moment you change track it hangs
[07:06] <surgy> anyone?
[07:07] <achilles> dont really know whats the prob
[07:07] <numan> renato: even if i amrunning edgy konqueror also dont work fine for me, it takes some time to load the page while firefox or iceweasel is faster
[07:07] <Kant> hello
[07:07] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. What's the difference between Amarok and Kaffeine media players?
[07:07] <achilles> and yeah another issue my superkaramba theme Liquid weather also stopped working
[07:07] <achilles> just wondering whats happening
[07:07] <Kant> does anybody get a "grub error 15" after a clean install of kubuntu feisty?
[07:07] <achilles> Amrok is hanging and Liquid weather stopped working
[07:08] <Kant> amarok is intended for audio
[07:08] <Shaddox> Kant: That means the install failed.
[07:08] <Shaddox> Kant: I had that last night. Just re-boot off of the CD and try the install again.
[07:08] <renato> I got the grub error 15, but it was not a clean install
[07:08] <Kant> the question is, where did it fail?
[07:08] <renato> exactly Shaddox
[07:08] <Kant> mine WAS a clean install
[07:08] <Shaddox> Kant: Did your system reach a critical temperature during install?
[07:08] <Kant> no
[07:09] <Shaddox> Kant: That's usually 80 degrees celsius.
[07:09] <numan> so i think new upgrade has some problems (myabe due to instant release) thats why many are looking for help here after upgrade?
[07:09] <Kant> I can try it again with the air conditioner turned on
[07:09] <andrea> hello everybody
[07:09] <andrea> gotta a problem
[07:09] <Shaddox> Kant: I tried to clean install yesterday and reached a critical temperature, and my system automatically shut down and I got that same error when I tried to boot.
[07:09] <andrea> i just updated to feisty
[07:09] <Kant> upgrade or clean install?
[07:10] <andrea> but as soon as i rebooted the boot stopped to the load of Xorg
[07:10] <Doctor_Nick> ugghghhg
[07:11] <andrea> usually only a dpkg-reconfigure was necessary
[07:11] <andrea> but now nothing :(
[07:11] <andrea> startx keep failing
[07:11] <Kant> it's winter here, I don't overclock, and my processor always runs cool
[07:11] <Kant> tempreture is not the issue here
[07:11] <Doctor_Nick> after I installed kdemultimedia, kaffeine stopped working properly and vlc doesnt work
[07:11] <Doctor_Nick> and i cant uninstall it
[07:11] <Kant> kdemultimedia is a metapackage
[07:11] <renato> well, reinstalling worked for me, Kant
[07:11] <andrea> can somebody help me getting back the graphic mode?
[07:12] <Kant> it basically installs nothing, it's pure dependencies
[07:12] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[07:12] <Doctor_Nick> kant: I know
[07:12] <renato> try the alternate cd
[07:12] <Kant> I'll try reinstalling... again ~_~
[07:12] <Shaddox> Can someone tell me the differences between Amarok and Kaffeine?
[07:12] <Doctor_Nick> amarok is a music player
[07:12] <Doctor_Nick> kaffeine is a video player
[07:12] <Kant_brb> amarok is intended putely for audio
[07:12] <Shaddox> Ah.h.
[07:13] <renato> although it (kaffeine) does not do a very good job at that
[07:14] <renato> and what's up with the gnome feel to it
[07:14] <Shaddox> Amarok it is. ^^
[07:15] <renato> Amarok rules if you ask me
[07:15] <Doctor_Nick> Kant: its a problem with xine
[07:16] <renato> Amarok and K3b are the things on Kub that I'm a 100% happy with
[07:16] <{GuNNeR}> has anyone tried SongBird?
[07:16] <renato> not me, no
[07:16] <Shaddox> I'm a new Kubuntu user
[07:16] <Shaddox> Under 24 hours ^^
[07:17] <Shaddox> 48**
[07:17] <renato> Kubuntu has made me very happy
[07:17] <pdroy> me too
[07:17] <{GuNNeR}> yea I just switched to Kubuntu from Gentoo - must say I'm impressed with Kubuntu
[07:17] <renato> but I haven't fully switched
[07:17] <Doctor_Nick> video isnt playing correctly anymore :/
[07:18] <pdroy> renato: so what else are you using ?
[07:18] <renato> dum dum duuuuum, Windows XPsp2
[07:18] <renato> :-P
[07:18] <pdroy> hehehe
[07:18] <renato> can't leave that bastard
[07:19] <czer323> XP > Vista? ;)
[07:19] <{GuNNeR}> hehe I tried a free copy of vista ultimate that microsoft sent to me...had that installed only long enough to download the Kubuntu dvd ;)
[07:19] <renato> I wouldn't even dare try Vista
[07:19] <pdroy> I had to use XP blue tooth earlier, but that got into Kubutnu long time back
[07:19] <andrea> is the wrecking of the X server a common feisty update problem?
[07:19] <andrea> can somebody give me some help to solve it?
[07:19] <renato> Feisty is buggy, if you ask me, andy
[07:20] <andrea> mhh
[07:20] <Shaddox> Nah
[07:20] <Shaddox> i installed with no x-server problems
[07:20] <pdroy> I just installed Feisty, ony 2 hrs old
[07:20] <renato> well, me too, but from the CD, the update didn't go smoothly
[07:20] <renato> try downloading the cd, andrea, and install from it
[07:20] <renato> worked for me
[07:21] <se7en> i need some help with amarok trancode what lib do i need to make it work
[07:21] <{GuNNeR}> I tried doing the online update but kept running into problems so I just did a clean install
[07:21] <Shaddox> Grrrr.
[07:21] <Shaddox> Kopete has a habit of crashing, too...
[07:21] <renato> Kopete sucks ass
[07:21] <Shaddox> I know
[07:21] <renato> and Gaim too
[07:21] <Shaddox> But I do tech support and webhosting for people
[07:22] <Shaddox> I use IM as the main form of tech support, so I need to be on all platforms and such
[07:22] <renato> I just take my instant messaging needs to windoze and live messenger or yahoo m
[07:22] <Shaddox> So I kinda like kopete, cause at least it makes everything simple, and even has IRC. ^^
[07:22] <renato> that is true, Shaddox
[07:23] <Shaddox> plus managing five different irc/im apps will run my temperature to the critical level X_x
[07:23] <_ron> renato: what do you recommend then?
[07:23] <Shaddox> itll run anyone, ^^
[07:23] <renato> to what?
[07:23] <_ron> renato: IM
[07:23] <_ron> renato: Nevermind, I see it now, sorry
[07:23] <renato> hehe
[07:23] <renato> sorry
[07:24] <Kant> Kopete is nice, but last time I used it there was a lot of instability
[07:24] <renato> Kubuntu preacher but not a convert
[07:24] <_ron> renato: I like the newest version of Gaim, for both windows and linux.
[07:24] <Kant> is kopete in feisty more stable than in edgy?
[07:24] <_ron> Kant: not in my experience.
[07:25] <Kant> ugh
[07:25] <Kant> then it's mercury again for the MSNMSG IMing
[07:25] <vbgunz> KDE 4 won't make it into Gutsy Gibbon right? 7.10? chances are it'll definitely make it into Honey Ham 8.04?
[07:25] <_ron> Kant: I have had very good experiences with Gaim in the later versions though.
[07:25] <phyerboss> Kant: as far as i can tell
[07:25] <Kant> Honey Harm? :P
[07:25] <phyerboss> kopete seems stable
[07:25] <{GuNNeR}> never had any issues with kopete
[07:25] <renato> I would love a version of live messenger or yahoo m for linux, but I know it'll never happen, _ron
[07:25] <Doctor_Nick> urgh
[07:26] <vbgunz> Honey Ham > 8.04 :)
[07:26] <Doctor_Nick> it looks like im going to have to reinstall kubuntu because my codecs are fucked
[07:26] <_ron> renato: maybe not never, just not until linux has more of a market share.
[07:26] <Kant> renato: try mercury, it's a very complete MSNmsg clone
[07:26] <{GuNNeR}> vbgunz: I wouldn't think that KDE 4.0 would be viewed as stable enough to include in 7.10
[07:26] <renato> really, Kant, for linux?
[07:26] <_ron> Kant: does it do webcamming, voice, etc/
[07:26] <Kant> I'd wait for feisty +2 to use KDE4
[07:26] <Kant> mercury is written in java
[07:27] <vbgunz> {GuNNeR}: yeah, I don't think so either
[07:27] <Kant> that means multiplataform
[07:27] <renato> I have never watched a video on linux
[07:27] <vbgunz> KDE4 is going to rock, I just know it :P
[07:27] <czer323> Who cares about stability?  it's all about PLAYING WITH NEW TOYS!
[07:27] <{GuNNeR}> agreed
[07:27] <renato> it's just a pain
[07:27] <Kant> hehehe
[07:27] <Kant> I just want it to work fine
[07:27] <Kant> but improivements are welcome
[07:27] <czer323> k, you can stick with kde3
[07:28] <czer323> Me?  I"M GOING TO PLAY! ;)
[07:28] <Kant> when kde4 is stable for desktop, I'll switch
[07:28] <Doctor_Nick> what i dislike about linux is its very easy to break things because of dependency hell
[07:28] <Kant> erm... no
[07:28] <Kant> it's not
[07:28] <Kant> if you have a stable system it's not
[07:28] <vbgunz> KDE4 is slated for release at the end of this year, a little bit after 7.10 so by the time it does roll around in 8.04, it should be a little more stable hopefully
[07:28] <czer323> Doctor_Nick: or how certain programs wont' install without dependancies on other programs, Which means that the other programs whcih rely on those older versions, BREAK!
[07:29] <czer323> Oh yes, i know.
[07:29] <Doctor_Nick> after one day xine is no longer working and gstreamer isnt working quite right
[07:29] <renato> what is so revolutionary about KDE4
[07:29] <renato> ??
[07:29] <Doctor_Nick> and synaptic thinks kaffeine is tied directly to kubuntu desktop, so i cant uninstall it
[07:29] <Kant> it's a complete redesign
[07:29] <vbgunz> renato: it's in the 4
[07:29] <renato> hehe
[07:29] <czer323> Doctor_Nick: you can remove kubuntu-desktop.  Its' just a meta-package.
[07:30] <Kant> ok, time to see if my modifications worked
[07:30] <vbgunz> I upgraded to Feisty and it feels faster than Edgy, it feels better, what happened? whats to blame?
[07:30] <Kant> see ya in a couple of minutes
[07:30] <Whiz2> what is the command for checking free disk space on /device/hda1 ?
[07:30] <czer323> df
[07:30] <Kant> fd -hlx tmpfs
[07:30] <vbgunz> Whiz2: try this: df -h|grep ^/
[07:31] <renato> well, I decided to turn this computer into a server to play with forum and wiki and ftp and web applications
[07:31] <Whiz2> vbgunz: df invalid option -- g
[07:31] <renato> get me one of those co.nr domain names and toy around
[07:32] <Shaddox> Hehe
[07:32] <Shaddox> I gots me 4 .coms :D
[07:32] <cobrien> Do I need to grab the latest nvidia drivers to use beryl?
[07:32] <Shaddox> archonstudios.com, cold-forces.com, coldforces.com, and archonhosting.com >:D
[07:32] <vbgunz> Whiz2: copy and paste, it should work if you have "df"
[07:32] <renato> how much do you pay for them Shaddox?
[07:32] <vbgunz> Whiz2: and grep
[07:32] <cobrien> I can tell already that it chose a nvidia driver "nv" for X
[07:32] <akrus> .oO Gutsy Repository is already available? :o
[07:32] <Shaddox> 10$/year, each, through Yahoo smallbusiness
[07:33] <renato> oh, yeah and you serve from home?
[07:33] <xjkx> By default, kubuntu comes only with konqueror? :O
[07:33] <Shaddox> Archon Hosting from home
[07:33] <renato> yes xjkx
[07:33] <Shaddox> The rest on Pandela [free webhoster, but has stopped accepting signups] 
[07:33] <Whiz2> vbgunz: I can't paste. i'm using putty to login. is thatt a pipe, or an L?
[07:33] <Shaddox> Archon Hosting I bought last week to learn to home-host. ^^
[07:33] <xjkx> renato, would firefox want me to install gnome-things ?
[07:33] <vbgunz> Whiz2: a pipe
[07:33] <renato> they had a fight over logos a while ago and Kubuntu said the hell with them, xjkx
[07:34] <cobrien> Does Evolution have more interoperability features than Kontact?  I've seen stuff like being able to synchronize with google calendar with Evolution...  is that possible with Kontact?
[07:34] <renato> no, just sudo apt-get install firefox on a terminal and that's it xjkx
[07:34] <xjkx> "with them" you mean firefox?
[07:34] <renato> yeah, the firefox team
[07:34] <renato> they are very strict with their branding
[07:34] <vbgunz> I use to dislike installing KDE apps in Gnome because they looked butchered *but* on KDE, Gnome apps look as native as KDE which is pretty sweet... I still wish I could use the KDE dialogs instead of the Gnome ones :(
[07:35] <xjkx> renato, i am making a description xD I have firefox already :> but i would like to know if firefox would put unwanted libs there, such as gnome things
[07:35] <renato> nope, xjkx
[07:35] <xjkx> :o thanks
[07:35] <ForgeAus> I agree vbgunz for the most part
[07:36] <ForgeAus> too much linux seems to default to gnome
[07:36] <Shaddox> Uh, question.
[07:36] <Shaddox> How do I get MP3 support in Amarok?
[07:36] <Whiz2> i'm trying to install qpopper on on my linus server using instruction found in thier documentation, but i keep getting an error that says "c compiler can not create executables"
[07:36] <renato> I think Gnome looks old technology, I know it isn't, but it feels like it
[07:36] <vbgunz> xjkx: there is no real need in avoiding Gnome applications. Gnome will open up a whole other world of great apps... albeit shi**y dialogs but none-the-less great apps
[07:36] <Whiz2> i have 120MB free
[07:36] <xjkx> renato, thats crazy ubuntu comes with firefox and kubuntu doesnt, if they faught, they would have faught in both buntus
[07:36] <Shaddox> Uh, how do I get MP3 support in Amarok?
[07:36] <renato> Shaddox: Just try to play an mp3 on Amarok and it'll prompt for the mp3 support install
[07:37] <vbgunz> Shaddox: are you on Feisty?
[07:37] <Shaddox> I do, and it stops responding.
[07:37] <Shaddox> Yeah.
[07:37] <nightsky> Shaddox install libmad0
[07:37] <vbgunz> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:37] <Shaddox> ok ok hold on ^^
[07:37] <vbgunz> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" only works in Feisty
[07:37] <renato> no, really, it was news for a while xjkx
[07:38] <Whiz2> can someone help me out here? I can't seem to get QPopper running, so I need to download, and install a decent pop server for my system.
[07:38] <renato> back then Kubuntu wasn't fully recognized as a canonical son
[07:38] <Whiz2> note that i'm running dapper
[07:38] <Kant> hi again
[07:38] <Kant> didn't work =S
[07:39] <Kant> whiz2: that explains why you have a working system =P
[07:39] <ionus> why in wine game run more slowly
[07:39] <ionus> ?
[07:40] <Whiz2> Hmm... (noting a comment about feisty being quicker) if i upgrade to feisty will it take up more, or less space on my drive?
[07:40] <renato> that has something to do with your video card driver ionus
[07:40] <akrus> Shaddox: libxine-extracodecs
[07:40] <_ron> whiz2: I am upgrading from dapper right now... they made fun of me. lol
[07:40] <xjkx> what image editor comes by default on kubuntu?
[07:40] <vbgunz> I've got to give wine another try... I remember trying to install some old games onto it to keep me from going insane, nothing I installed ever worked with it :(
[07:40] <Shaddox> I'm installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, it has the mpeg drivers in it, that's what i need
[07:40] <ionus> renato what?
[07:40] <Tired_> vbgunz -> yes, it contains the dvd stuff
[07:40] <Kant> well, feisty is theoretically quicker
[07:40] <vbgunz> Tired_: really?
[07:40] <Tired_> better late than never
[07:40] <Kant> it has a linking method that makes prelink unnescesary
[07:40] <Tired_> yep
[07:40] <Kant> it has upstart
[07:40] <Tired_> just finished installing now
[07:40] <ionus> but i hawe inslaled video driver
[07:40] <vbgunz> Tired_: thanks for getting back to me 183Hrs after i asked :P
[07:40] <renato> well, by default kub installs a generic driver for your card
[07:41] <Whiz2> Kant yeah, but is it smaller? that's why i think it might be quicker
[07:41] <Tired_> my pleasure  :)
[07:41] <ionus> but i hawe inslaled video driver
[07:41] <renato> oh, don't know then
[07:41] <Kant> I do not think the difference is very big
[07:41] <xjkx> renato, do you know what default image editor come on kubuntu? :D
[07:41] <Kant> I mean, +/- 100MB maybe
[07:41] <renato> editor, hmm
[07:41] <vbgunz> xjkx: krita
[07:41] <renato> hold on
[07:41] <Kant> kolourpaint_
[07:41] <ionus> ok
[07:42] <xjkx> never heard of krita, is it as powerful as gimp?
[07:42] <vbgunz> xjkx: krita is like illustrator, the gimp is like Photoshop
[07:42] <renato> well, actually, Kub does not come with krita
[07:42] <Whiz2> can someone suggest a pop email server that i can apt-get and run without having to install other stuff? (tried with qpopper, but didn't install right)
[07:42] <vbgunz> renato: you sure?
[07:42] <flaccid> !info krita
[07:42] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
[07:42] <vbgunz> renato: they took it out of 7.04?
[07:43] <renato> I think so, yeah
[07:43] <vbgunz> oh, I upgraded so still have it from 6.10
[07:43] <renato> I don't think it came with edgy either
[07:43] <xjkx> vbgunz, sorry i havent tried illustrator either
[07:43] <akrus> Gwenview is now by default :)
[07:43] <ionus> ok
[07:43] <renato> like, out of the box
[07:43] <Whiz2> would feisty be smaller than dapper? ;-)
[07:43] <Kant> gwenview comes with feisty
[07:43] <renato> gwenview is just a viewer
[07:43] <vbgunz> renato: I think it came in Edgy
[07:43] <Kant> I have it here in the livecd
[07:43] <vbgunz> I don't remember installing it
[07:43] <akrus> renato: no editor here :o
[07:43] <kalorin> heh
[07:44] <akrus> renato: KPaint :D
[07:44] <renato> ha ha akrus
[07:44] <kalorin> well the new ATI driver does build packages for Ubuntu/6.10 nicely
[07:44] <flaccid> the latest gimp has sweet selection tools
[07:44] <kalorin> now to just install them
[07:44] <akrus> well actually it's nothing installed by default
[07:44] <_ron> vbgunz: Is krita vector based?
[07:44] <vbgunz> _ron: yes
[07:44] <_ron> vbgunz: I had no idea. lol
[07:45] <vbgunz> :)
[07:45] <vbgunz> I believe Fesity doesn't come with OO? I mean I upgraded but don't see koffice at all in here except for karbon14 which I installed a long time ago
[07:46] <akrus> Whiz2: courier mail server? :D
[07:46] <akrus> vbgunz: why not?
[07:46] <Shaddox> Ugh. Amarok still crashed when I tried to play an MP3.
[07:46] <akrus> OpenOffice is a part of Kubuntu :)
[07:46] <flaccid> !openoffice
[07:46] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:46] <vbgunz> akrus: not sure, I don't know for sure. I heard the devs were removing OO in favor of koffice
[07:46] <renato> Feisty does come with OO vbgunz, except for the database, which is Kexi now
[07:46] <akrus> Beta was with OOo
[07:46] <akrus> as well as all alphas
[07:46] <flaccid> you will always be able to install either
[07:46] <Whiz2> akrus what is the package name for that?
[07:47] <vbgunz> ahh
[07:47] <Shaddox> Ugh, my Amarok is still crashing. X_x
[07:47] <renato> how do you accept the sun java license agreement when sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:47] <_ron> renato: run it in konsole
[07:48] <_ron> renato: sorry, misread your question
[07:48] <akrus> Whiz2: apt-cache search courier :)
[07:48] <akrus> !courier-imapd
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-imapd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <akrus> hmm
[07:48] <akrus> !courier-pop3d
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <Whiz2> akrus you're having me get IMAP?
[07:48] <flaccid> !find courier-imap
[07:48] <ubotu> Found: courier-imap, courier-imap-ssl
[07:48] <flaccid> !info courier-imap
[07:48] <ubotu> courier-imap: Courier Mail Server - IMAP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.1.1.20060828-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1540 kB
[07:48] <_ron> renato: did you press enter until it asked you for yes or no/
[07:48] <renato> it got to a screen about accepting sun's license agreement, but I hit enter and it doesn't do anything
[07:48] <akrus> oh great :)
[07:48] <flaccid> i do prefer dovecot myself
[07:49] <akrus> Whiz2: the same for pop :)
[07:49] <akrus> !courier-pop3
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <akrus> !courier-pop
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-pop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <akrus> :x
[07:49] <renato> I doesn't ask for "no", it just ask "accept"
[07:49] <flaccid> akrus: it comes with courier-imap
[07:49] <akrus> ah, okay
[07:49] <akrus> in my apt-cache search: courier-pop - Courier Mail Server - POP3 server :)
[07:49] <Whiz2> akrus try courier-pop
[07:49] <Whiz2> ok
[07:50] <flaccid> right
[07:50] <flaccid> !find courier-pop
[07:50] <ubotu> Found: courier-pop, courier-pop-ssl
[07:50] <flaccid> !info courier-pop
[07:50] <ubotu> courier-pop: Courier Mail Server - POP3 server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.53.3-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 216 kB
[07:50] <akrus> oh yeah :3
[07:50] <flaccid> hmm so it is
[07:50] <Shaddox> Anyone know how to give Amarok MP3 support?
[07:50] <flaccid> !mp3 > Shaddox
[07:50] <akrus> Shaddox: libxine-extracodecs
[07:50] <Whiz2> akrus that is tiny! :-D
[07:50] <renato> haha, never mind, you actually had to go through all of the agreement to get to the accept thing, lol, _ron
[07:50] <akrus> Whiz2: sure it is :)
[07:50] <_ron> renato: XD
[07:50] <Whiz2> akrus it should work with exim right?
[07:51] <akrus> Whiz2: likely :)
[07:51] <Whiz2> akrus ty
[07:51] <renato> as if anyone actually read agreements!!
[07:51] <akrus> renato: you're kidding x_X
[07:51] <_ron> renato: I know! I was frustrated that there wasn't some way to use page down instead of holding enter for eternity.
[07:51] <renato> ha ha
[07:51] <renato> yeah
[07:51] <Whiz2> renato i read them from time to time
[07:52] <akrus> when it's nothing to do :))
[07:52] <renato> of course, there's always someone who wants to contradict me
[07:52] <Whiz2> akrus when i think it might actually mean something lol
[07:52] <renato> but not actually read agreements, lol
[07:52] <Tired_> ack!  two more hours installing restriced package and still no mp3 in amarok!
[07:52] <_ron> Anyone remember the command to see your IP off the top of their head/
[07:52] <akrus> _ron: ifconfig? o_O
[07:53] <akrus> which head? :o
[07:53] <Shaddox> Woooo!
[07:53] <Whiz2> LOL
[07:53] <Shaddox> Amarok gets a lot louder then Rhythmbox! :D
[07:53] <_ron> akrus: whichever head ifconfig came from worked. lol
[07:53] <akrus> Shaddox: amaroK rulez all the way :)
[07:53] <_ron> brb
[07:54] <Tired_> um
[07:54] <Whiz2> akrus it has web-based admin... but my web server is not in the standard directory... would that be a problem?
[07:55] <Tired_> why dopes apt-get tell me to rn apt-get --fix-missing, nd then when I run it, there isn't one?
[07:55] <Shaddox> OMFG.
[07:55] <renato> when I'm able to watch porn on Kubuntu that will be Windoze last day
[07:55] <Shaddox> I had no idea Amarok had last.fm too :D
[07:55] <renato> till then...
[07:56] <renato> yeah, Amarok rules, I told you
[07:56] <firecrotch> renato: I hear that mplayer works nicely for porn
[07:56] <Tired_> Shaddox -> did you get mp3s?
[07:56] <czer323> kaffiene does too.
[07:56] <renato> yeah, but not for web porn
[07:56] <renato> lol
[07:56] <czer323> yes, for web porn.  Drag and drop baby!
[07:56] <david_> Ugh.. i'm back.. :)  I managed to get into the KDE control center, but it won't work properly.... So how do I install themes?
[07:56] <hyper_ch> how can I kill Zombie processes
[07:57] <renato> and don't be a liar firecrotch "I hear"? Come on!!
[07:57] <renato> lol
[07:57] <czer323> I switched to kde for better porn streaming.
[07:57] <Whiz2> renato you just have to have the right plugins installed for streaming vids
[07:57] <renato> like what Whiz2?
[07:57] <akrus> Whiz2: it's another webserver afaik... at another port :)
[07:57] <firecrotch> renato: I have no need for porn - I've got a girlfriend :P
[07:57] <Whiz2> renato dunno. guess it depends on the file type you're streaming
[07:58] <Tired_> wht des 111 COnnection Refused mean when I run apt-get update ?
[07:58] <akrus> Tired_: this means that connection is refused by server
[07:58] <renato> the only thing that needs work in Amarok is the "I'm Matthias Ettrich, blah blah blah" that was just conceded of him, lol
[07:58] <Tired_> why is it refused?
[07:58] <akrus> Tired_: IP ban or something like this
[07:58] <akrus> Tired_: try another server
[07:58] <david_> anyone know about installing pre-made themes?
[07:59] <Tired_> how do I try another server?  i'm trying the canadian one now
[07:59] <renato> well, see, that's what I mean Whiz2, with Windows Media Player I just click and voil
[07:59] <akrus> david_: System Settings -> Look And Feel
[07:59] <akrus> Tired_: maybe it's overloaded, try us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <Tired_> how do I tell it where to go?
[07:59] <Whiz2> akrus that means i have to install another web server???
[08:00] <akrus> Whiz2: courier-webadmin is another web-server made especially for courier :)
[08:00] <akrus> Tired_: okay, open konsole, type in: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <akrus> it will ask for your root password, it's the same as your account password if it's not changed
[08:01] <Tired_> got it.  edit the conf file?
[08:01] <akrus> after that replace all the *.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <Tired_> ok
[08:01] <akrus> (ca.archive.ubuntu.com?)
[08:01] <akrus> with us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <Tired_> lol, i just needed to knowthe filename  :)
[08:01] <akrus> oh okay then :)
[08:01] <akrus> going to drink tea now :P
[08:02] <renato> I'm on a highway to hell is breaking my speakers. Hooray, mp3's working hee
[08:02] <renato> Is it already five in London, akrus?
[08:02] <renato> :-P
[08:02] <morphius_> When trying to run update-manager using kdesu, I put in my password (yes it is entered correctly) and I get a message saying I incorrectly entered my password. When I then try it again I get a message saying "conversation with su failed". Su and sudo work just fine in the terminal though.
[08:02] <akrus> renato: 10 AM in Moscow ;P
[08:02] <renato> heheh
[08:03] <Tired_> works now, thanks akrus  :)
[08:03] <Kant> back, again in the livecd -_-
[08:03] <akrus> Tired_: you're welcome :)
[08:04] <david_> ok.. it says "click the administrator mode button to allow modificatons."  This is for theme manager... How do I click that button?  I see none... Sorry newbie here
[08:04] <renato> resize your window
[08:04] <akrus> renato:
[08:04] <jbrouhard> Anyone know how to set m3u files to automatically open Amarok ?
[08:04] <renato> resize your window david_, it's at the bottom
[08:04] <akrus> lol
[08:05] <Kant> secondary click on the file, "open with..."
[08:05] <akrus> and save it :)
[08:05] <david_> umm.... still not seeing it ....
[08:05] <Kant> did you know that windows can be resized with alt + right click drag?
[08:05] <jbrouhard> Well
[08:05] <Whiz2> akrus following the instructions it gave me, it can't find the webadmin pages when i enter the given url... my web server is not in the standard user directories
[08:06] <Kant> and dragged with alt + right click drag
[08:06] <jbrouhard> That doesn't seem to work via Firefox :(
[08:06] <kalorin> anyone really good with kernel modules?
[08:06] <renato> open with... will not work, you need to go to right click, then actions, then edit as root!
[08:06] <morphius_> jbrouhard: You should be able to right click and go to properties. I think the last tab sets the preferences for the default application
[08:06] <flaccid> kalorin: whats the prb
[08:06] <akrus> Whiz2: hmm... that's just because of apt.. try looking for it, it should be somewhere :o you can also try searching UbuntuForums
[08:06] <david_> didn't know...
[08:06] <kalorin> flaccid: join #kalorin
[08:06] <flaccid> no
[08:07] <Kant> here it is, the error!!!
[08:07] <akrus> kalorin: i'm good at removing them :D
[08:07] <kalorin> heh
[08:07] <kalorin> well in /usr/src/
[08:07] <kalorin> there's a modules directory
[08:07] <akrus> rm -rf / -ftw
[08:07] <akrus> :o
[08:07] <kalorin> and a linux -> linux-headers-2.6.17-11
[08:07] <Kant> "the test of the file system with type ext2 in partition #4 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) found uncorrected errors
[08:07] <Kant> "
[08:07] <kalorin> and a linux-headers-2.6.17-11.generic
[08:07] <flaccid> akrus: please don't msg that command ever
[08:07] <kalorin> why generic and regular directories
[08:07] <Whiz2> akrus i used apt-get install courier-webadmin to get it
[08:08] <akrus> flaccid: it's not with sudo :)
[08:08] <akrus> i hope noone is using root account there
[08:08] <kalorin> and why is the symlink to modules broken in the linux-headers-2.6.17-11 directory?
[08:08] <david_> it doesn't look like there's an administrator button ... ?
[08:08] <akrus> Whiz2: man courier-webadmin?
[08:08] <flaccid> thats no excuse. we have new users here who might just try the command
[08:08] <akrus> flaccid: okay, sorry, forgot :)
[08:08] <flaccid> kalorin: i don't know. do you have a problem
[08:08] <renato> did you try rezizing your window, david_?
[08:08] <Whiz2> akrus now i have another issue. :-( my pop3 client is already setup to access the server, but it won't take my linux account password
[08:09] <kalorin> well yeah kind of
[08:09] <kalorin> upgraded to the latest ATI drivers, but it seems like the kernel modules aren't right
[08:09] <david_> yes i tried resizing the window... I don't know where to look though.... There is not button as far as I can tell.
[08:09] <akrus> Whiz2: read the courier docu, it's not your account password
[08:09] <flaccid> kalorin: which modules. have a look at lsmod
[08:09] <renato> it's down
[08:09] <kalorin> I'm in X and it's loaded and seems to be behaving ok but I can't run any of the fglrxinfo type stuff
[08:09] <akrus> david_: KDM themes?
[08:09] <flaccid> kalorin: whats the actual error
[08:10] <kalorin> um..
[08:10] <david_> yes, kdm themes....  I tried the actual theme editor, but that wouldn't work at all.. buggy
[08:10] <akrus> :d
[08:10] <akrus> well i'm experiencing the same issue :D
[08:10] <renato> david_: it now comes with a slider on the right. What are you complaining about? Slide it down!!
[08:10] <david_> arrgh.
[08:10] <kalorin> X Error of failed request: BadMatch ( invalid parameter attributes )
[08:11] <kalorin> fglrxinfo seems to work ok
[08:11] <flaccid> kalorin: what outputs that?
[08:11] <kalorin> it's just odd
[08:11] <akrus> david_: kdesu systemsettings
[08:11] <kalorin> fgl_glxgears
[08:11] <akrus> in K-Menu->Run
[08:11] <flaccid> kalorin: maybe the error is non destructive
[08:12] <kalorin> yeah but the monitor&setting applet in the KMenu/System Settings stuff hasn't worked for a while and I think it's related
[08:12] <kalorin> what's the danger of me dropping a modules directory in there?
[08:12] <kalorin> and doing a depmod -a
[08:12] <kalorin> would it pop a gourd and require a livecd reboot to fix?
[08:13] <Kant> anyone who knows how to fix this? http://xs114.xs.to/xs114/07160/inst_error.png
[08:13] <ionus> HOW TO MOUNT ISO IMAGE?
[08:13] <flaccid> kalorin: i don't see what this has to do with kernel modules
[08:13] <ionus> !ISO
[08:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:13] <akrus> Kant: click ok? o_O
[08:13] <kalorin> cause there's an fglrx.ko in there that's from 4/8/2007 (about he last time I did a driver update) compared to 4/22/07
[08:13] <flaccid> and i wouldn't worry about the gui. if you did the binary driver i wouldnt expect frontends to behave correctly at this point
[08:13] <kalorin> k
[08:13] <Kant> when I continue I get a grub error after reboot - after a clean install!!!
[08:14] <akrus> hm
[08:14] <akrus> fsck /dev/sda
[08:14] <flaccid> kalorin: im sorry i don't know if i can help. there is lots on google of this error: X Error of failed request: BadMatch ( invalid parameter attributes )  fgl_glxgears
[08:14] <flaccid> kalorin: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=S5U&q=X+Error+of+failed+request%3A+BadMatch+%28+invalid+parameter+attributes+%29++fgl_glxgears&btnG=Search
[08:16] <kalorin> yeah
[08:16] <Kant> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fsck /dev/sda
[08:16] <Kant> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[08:16] <Kant> e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[08:16] <Kant> Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[08:16] <Kant> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[08:16] <Kant> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[08:17] <Kant> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[08:17] <Kant> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[08:17] <Kant> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[08:17] <flaccid> !pastebin > Kant
[08:18] <Kant> sorry
[08:18] <Kant> I'll use it from now on
[08:18] <Kant> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16979/
[08:19] <Tired_> woohoo!  mp3s work!
[08:19] <Kant> my guess: the ext2 partition got fucked up by the ext2 windows driver >_<
[08:20] <Kant> and I don't have another drive for backup
[08:20] <Whiz2> akrus courier-pop installed courier-base the suite comes with it's own MTA???
[08:20] <Hail_Spacecake> I need a program
[08:20] <Hail_Spacecake> that will take a large pdf file
[08:20] <Shaddox> Uh, question. How do I delete write-protected files in my trash can as root?
[08:20] <Hail_Spacecake> and break it into several smaller pdf files
[08:21] <Hail_Spacecake> that are still valid and complete pdfs
[08:21] <Hail_Spacecake> do you guys know of any?
[08:21] <flaccid> Kant: pastebin me output of sudo fdisk -l and df -h
[08:22] <Kant> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16980/
[08:23] <flaccid> sorry and sudo mount
[08:23] <flaccid> and /etc/fstab
[08:23] <Kant> this is the live CD
[08:23] <Shaddox> Uh, question.
[08:23] <david_> Hi... I just did a search and apparantly the lack of an "administrator mode" button is a known bug.  They don't know how to fix it though.
[08:23] <Shaddox> A bunch of files were accidentally deleted from my home folder.
[08:23] <Shaddox> Er, nevermind.
[08:24] <flaccid> ok
[08:24] <david_> So thanks to those trying to help...but I guess it's a prob..... Does anybody here like Fedora Core?  Is it at all usable?
[08:24] <jbrouhard> Fedora Core sucks
[08:24] <Kant> flaccid, could you repeat me the command you asked the output of?
[08:24] <david_> really?  how come jbrouhard?
[08:25] <jbrouhard> The concept of "Bloatware" comes to mind
[08:25] <flaccid> Kant: its ok
[08:25] <drumline_> Anyone know why an NTFS formatted external drive will pop up in KDE, but then fail to automount?    I don't see it in /dev/ also
[08:25] <david_> Heh.  bloatwawre
[08:25] <soulrider_> david_:
[08:25] <drumline_> I see an hdc in /dev/, but there are no partitions on it.
[08:25] <jbrouhard> drumline_: Could be cause you need to sudo mount it...
[08:25] <soulrider_> theres somethign you can do
[08:25] <david_> really soulrider?
[08:25] <Shaddox> Uh, question everyone.
[08:25] <soulrider_> david_: press alt + f2 and type "kdesu kcontrol"
[08:25] <soulrider_> that will runt he control center as root
[08:25] <Tired_> There's a concept I don't understand.  When I write to a SMB share from Kubuntu, what's actually doing the writing?
[08:25] <soulrider_> if you do so i dont think youll need the admin button
[08:26] <Shaddox> Question: How do I open another KDE window in xnest?
[08:26] <david_> I'll try it.  thanks soulrider....
[08:26] <soulrider_> Tired_: the host i think
[08:26] <Shaddox> Is it xnest :1 startkde?
[08:26] <Tired_> Is t the Kubuntu box, or the Windows box that has the drive?
[08:26] <soulrider_> Tired_: the windows machine
[08:26] <flaccid> Kant: try doing sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[08:26] <Tired_> so I don't need NTFS write drivers to write to NTFS formatted shares?
[08:26] <jbrouhard> Nope
[08:26] <david_> konsole gave me Error: bad device
[08:27] <jbrouhard> Tired_: you only need that if you directly mount a NTFS drive
[08:27] <soulrider_> david_: ignore all those x server errors
[08:27] <drumline_> jbrouhard: not in this case...  I run around as 'sudo -i'  :)
[08:27] <jbrouhard> a shared drive works over a SMB block.
[08:27] <Tired_> nope, I don't wanna do that, just SMB
[08:27] <Tired_> so, basically the whole reason I was afraid of Linux was wrong.
[08:27] <Tired_> lol
[08:27] <soulrider_> lol Tired_
[08:27] <soulrider_> Tired_: LINUX ROCKSSSSSSSS!
[08:27] <Tired_> i'm noticing that
[08:28] <drumline_> What's the easy way to get at my SMB shares on this network?
[08:28] <david_> Hmmm... The thing didn't open at all though....  It just gave me the errors and sat
[08:28] <soulrider_> Tired_: with time, youll discover new cool things everyday
[08:28] <flaccid> drumline_: konqueror
[08:28] <soulrider_> david_: hold on
[08:28] <Tired_> well today is day one, and i've already found some cool stuff
[08:28] <soulrider_> david_: didnt open? try again
[08:28] <david_> yup... tried again
[08:28] <david_> same errors.. no kcontrol
[08:28] <Tired_> this is all about learning right now...if I can learn enough to migrate my mission critical stuff, then I'll be set
[08:28] <flaccid> drumline_: goto smb:/
[08:29] <soulrider_> Tired_: every day for the first 2 months, i went crazy because i allways found cool new stuff, and after a year, it still happens
[08:29] <Shaddox> Uh, hello everyone.
[08:29] <Shaddox> How do I create a user in Konsole?
[08:29] <soulrider_> Shaddox: adduser
[08:29] <flaccid> Shaddox: sudo adduser username
[08:29] <dennister> ubuntu-server is downloading at 140 kb/s :-)
[08:29] <Tired_> i expect to poop bricks when i get beryl to work
[08:29] <Shaddox> What are the parameters for adding the users?
[08:29] <soulrider_> Tired_: LOL
[08:29] <flaccid> Shaddox: man adduser
[08:29] <Shaddox> oh here we go, nevermind, ^^] 
[08:29] <dennister> <------is going to find it hard to wait for upgrading
[08:29] <soulrider_> Shaddox: you can do "adduser -h" for the help
[08:30] <Kant> flaccid: I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16979/
[08:30] <soulrider_> david_: uhm, restart KDE and try again ?
[08:30] <dennister> good night all
[08:30] <soulrider_> david_: youre doing kdesu right? not sudo
[08:30] <Tired_> gnight denni
[08:30] <david_> yeah, kdesu
[08:30] <Shaddox> Okay, uh, question
[08:30] <flaccid> Kant: thats the same as before. i said /dev/sda1
[08:30] <Kant> oh
[08:30] <soulrider_> david_: damn
[08:30] <david_> the funny thing is that I think I got it working earlier......  But I've encountered a fair share of bugs since installation.
[08:31] <Shaddox> I want to add a user with name XYZ that can be an admin and everything like the user Kubuntu's installer created, and set it's home directory to /home/XYZ
[08:31] <soulrider_> david_: thats weird, i tried feisty and it was wonder
[08:31] <soulrider_> wonderful*
[08:31] <Shaddox> What would that command be, i can't figure out this man page ^^
[08:31] <flaccid> Shaddox: man usermod
[08:31] <soulrider_> david_: is this your first linux distro ?
[08:31] <Kant> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16982/
[08:32] <flaccid> Kant: try it on sda4 now
[08:32] <david_> Well, I started with the gnome version, but went to this one after I didn't like the interface... The gnome one worked perfectly.  This one has given me errors on 2 different installs... (I had to re-install it because stuff stopped working)
[08:32] <Kant> it says it's clean also
[08:32] <david_> I did a disc integrity check, but it says it was fine.
[08:32] <soulrider_> david_: i see, dont get discouraged byt he bugs though, they get fixed quickly usually
[08:32] <kubuntian> that F****ING kile just deleted my report
[08:32] <kubuntian> the tex file is empty
[08:32] <david_> Thanks for the encouragement
[08:32] <soulrider_> david_: *buntu is GREAT for learning
[08:32] <kubuntian> and i have only the resulting PDF
[08:32] <soulrider_> its easy, and the community is great
[08:32] <kalorin> ok I got it figured out
[08:32] <flaccid> Kant: then maybe its fine. does it boot?
[08:33] <Tired_> does Konversation support all the standard IRC commands?
[08:33] <soulrider_> you wont find that in many distros
[08:33] <kubuntian> is there a way to convert PDF back to latex?
[08:33] <kalorin> I had 8.36.5 drivers installed but the 8.35.5 kernel module installed
[08:33] <david_> will I need to re-install when the bugs get fixed?
[08:33] <flaccid> Tired_: thats dependant on the IRC server you connect to
[08:33] <kubuntian> i don't want to rewrite everything...
[08:33] <flaccid> but yes it does
[08:33] <kalorin> I knew there was soemthing that wasn't quite right
[08:33] <Shaddox> Uh, question. What group do I place system administrators in?
[08:33] <Tired_> like multi-servering and such?
[08:33] <soulrider_> david_: doing an update will fix it
[08:33] <Kant> flaccid: no, it doesn't
[08:33] <flaccid> Shaddox: usually admin and operator
[08:33] <flaccid> iirc
[08:33] <akrus> Whiz2: courier-mta is it's own mta :)
[08:33] <david_> oh ok.. Yay!
[08:33] <david_> :)
[08:33] <flaccid> Kant: doesn't what
[08:33] <soulrider_> david_: kubuntu really is a great distro
[08:33] <flaccid> Kant: whats the error on boot
[08:34] <Shaddox> flaccid: I really can't figure this command out...you know the user that the Kubuntu installer creates when installing?
[08:34] <soulrider_> david_: im not using it anymore, but do you know why im allways here/in the forums? community
[08:34] <Kant> last time I ried a straight clean install of edgy I got a grub error 15
[08:34] <Shaddox> flaccid: I want to make a new user with the exact same priveledges, username shaddox, home at /home/shaddox
[08:34] <Shaddox> flaccid: Can you tell me the command I'd need to type in?
[08:34] <flaccid> ok
[08:34] <david_> That's pretty cool, soulrider
[08:34] <kubuntian> is there a way to convert PDF back to latex?
[08:35] <drumline_> flaccid: is that something I can setup a quickie icon on my desktop for and have it automagically log in?
[08:35] <flaccid> kubuntian: please don't repeat
[08:35] <soulrider_> david_: yeah, everyone will help you here and not call you stupid or a n00b
[08:35] <Kant> gone to reinstall, will come back with victory or an error message
[08:35] <david_> a free operating system with a community to boot. :)
[08:35] <flaccid> Shaddox: usermod -G admin Shaddox
[08:35] <Shaddox> i want to make a NEW user
[08:36] <flaccid> drumline_: log in to what?
[08:36] <Shaddox> i accidentally deleted this user's home folder and want to make a new one with the same privs, and delete this one ^^
[08:36] <flaccid> Shaddox: we showed you that
[08:36] <flaccid> Shaddox: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[08:36] <flaccid> i believe users and groups is in system settings as well for gui
[08:36] <Shaddox> i cant start konqueror. :/
[08:37] <flaccid> why
[08:37] <Shaddox> I know
[08:37] <Shaddox> But my X server is screwed
[08:37] <drumline_> flaccid: my SMB server
[08:37] <Shaddox> All the applications i try to start say that it cant connect
[08:37] <Shaddox> This is why I wanted to make a new user in Konsole
[08:37] <flaccid> !mount
[08:37] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:37] <flaccid> drumline_: you can mount it and create a symlink on the desktop
[08:37] <flaccid> Shaddox: we have showed you how to do all this. please read what we said
[08:39] <nbcb> help why do i hit into too many open files in ktorrent?
[08:39] <drumline_> flaccid: oh...  setup a script to do it?
[08:39] <flaccid> drumline_: there is a few options
[08:40] <Shaddox> uh, flaccid: i can't do it under sudo?
[08:40] <what_if> nbcb: its probably coded into ktorrent, but you can check ulimit on the command line
[08:40] <Shaddox> it says specify only one name
[08:40] <flaccid> depends how you wanna do it. you can put it in fstab and just mount /mnt/point or you can use smbmount
[08:40] <drumline_> flaccid: I'm very new to the GUI side of Linux...   :)   ...what kind of options?    I am familiar with smbmount and symlinks and scripts...   I just don't know the fancy GUI methods.
[08:40] <flaccid> Shaddox: what command did you try
[08:40] <Shaddox> flaccid: sudo adduser --group admin shaddox
[08:40] <flaccid> drumline_: there isn't any fancy gui methods
[08:41] <drumline_> flaccid: well, I like how KDE can automagically hold my login data in the configs... that's nice.
[08:41] <flaccid> Shaddox: i usually add them after adduser user so that they still have their own group
[08:41] <drumline_> I somewhat miss drive letters.  :)
[08:42] <nbcb> what_if: i already set ulimit -n 999999 , but it still hit that error
[08:42] <Shaddox> flaccid: so that's adduser shaddox, then usermod shaddox -parameters?
[08:42] <flaccid> drumline_: i don't see why you would miss drive letters
[08:42] <nbcb> i'm using ktorrent 2.1.3
[08:42] <flaccid> Shaddox: i msgd an example and a link to the page above
[08:42] <Shaddox> okay
[08:42] <Shaddox> im filling out the stuff
[08:42] <drumline_> flaccid: they are shortcuts...   it's easy to just click on T when I want to get to some business stuff.
[08:42] <Shaddox> but what's Room Number?
[08:42] <what_if> nbcb: its probably coded into ktorrent then, you may try azureus, the ulimit variable has a gui where you can change it
[08:43] <flaccid> Shaddox: [2007-04-22 16:35]  <flaccid> Shaddox: usermod -G admin Shaddox
[08:43] <flaccid> Shaddox: those options are optional. just press enter
[08:43] <Shaddox> i know i know
[08:43] <nbcb> what_if: ok thx.. azuresus is also a bittorrent client?
[08:43] <flaccid> i use azureus for bittorrent
[08:43] <nbcb> !azuresus
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azuresus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <flaccid> !info azureus
[08:43] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[08:43] <Shaddox> okay, flaccid, thank you
[08:43] <what_if> nbcb: yes, it may even be in the repositories...
[08:43] <Shaddox> next question flaccid
[08:43] <flaccid> np
[08:44] <Shaddox> how do i disable automatic login
[08:44] <drumline_> flaccid: i like drive letters because I'm a kool-aid drinker :)
[08:44] <Shaddox> in Konsole
[08:44] <what_if> ty ubutu :), lol
[08:44] <flaccid> automatic login of what?
[08:44] <Shaddox> when i boot, my KDE auto logins as this user
[08:44] <flaccid> drumline_: whatever that means
[08:44] <Shaddox> but im switching users, so i need to turn off automatic login
[08:44] <flaccid> !find autologin
[08:44] <ubotu> File autologin found in casper, gdm
[08:44] <flaccid> that i don't know sorry Shaddox
[08:44] <Shaddox> >.< damn, okay
[08:44] <flaccid> im not sure if thats Kubuntu or KDE related
[08:45] <flaccid> someone here should know or try #kde
[08:45] <drumline_> flaccid: KDE and Ubuntu have come a long way...  :)  this is cool.
[08:45] <flaccid> Shaddox: the command groups is good to see what groups you are in
[08:46] <flaccid> drumline_: yeah i actually think that feisty is more stable than dapper which suprised me
[08:46] <flaccid> xorg7 is fast
[08:46] <fiction> does anyone know where the file that has all the startup scripts is located?
[08:46] <Bennedetto> allo allo everyone
[08:46] <what_if> fiction: which startup scrips ? main system ?
[08:46] <flaccid> fiction: startup scripts are located in /etc/init.d ?
[08:47] <flaccid> or you want rc config?
[08:47] <Bennedetto> i've got a quick question about kubuntu feisty. I know that you can enable compiz in the settings manager in ubuntu, but is it possible to do the same in kubuntu? if so, how might I go about doing this...
[08:47] <fiction> what_if: not sure. what i did was, i unchecked some startup scripts and now ubuntu (im usinjg ubuntu, but the people on the channel don't know the solution) won't start
[08:47] <fiction> flaccid: thanks
[08:47] <flaccid> fiction: whats the specific problem
[08:47] <what_if> fiction: do you remember what you turned off ?
[08:48] <fiction> if i remember correctly: both actions schedulers, bluetooth device management, cpu frequency manager, computer activity logger
[08:48] <what_if> Bennedetto: yes beryl+kubuntu works, just install beryl-manager and run it
[08:48] <flaccid> fiction: what about them?
[08:49] <flaccid> !info rcconf
[08:49] <ubotu> rcconf: Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB
[08:49] <drumline_> flaccid: to your knowledge, has anyone ever been arrested or fined for using the restricted codecs for their own use?
[08:49] <Bennedetto> what_if: i tried beryl, not working for me, but i do know that compiz works
[08:49] <fiction> flaccid: they have checkboxes next to them. i unchecked the boxes.
[08:49] <flaccid> rcconf would be handy if you don't want to use the gui for service management
[08:49] <Bennedetto> what_if: so i need to know how to enable compiz, or if i need to install it
[08:49] <what_if> Bennedetto: do you have an nvidia board ?
[08:49] <flaccid> drumline_: no idea
[08:49] <Bennedetto> what_if: no, its an intel i810
[08:49] <flaccid> fiction: recheck them?
[08:49] <what_if> Bennedetto: oh, sry never tried compiz
[08:49] <fiction> flaccid: ubuntu won't start. im on live cd
[08:49] <flaccid> why why why
[08:50] <flaccid> this won't work or this won't start tells us nothing
[08:50] <what_if> flaccid: chroot your old system and re-enable the services :)
[08:50] <fiction> it freezes on this line "/etc/rc.local/
[08:50] <flaccid> what_if: just use rcconf its pretty handy
[08:50] <fiction> what_if: i don't know how
[08:51] <what_if> flaccid: lol, wrong nick :P
[08:51] <flaccid> fiction: pastebin /etc/rc.local please
[08:51] <ionus> !modem
[08:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:51] <fiction> flaccid: exit 0
[08:52] <flaccid> fiction: ok nothing is in there. need to check logs like /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog to see what is not happening. also see if X is being started and what the problem is there in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:52] <fiction> flaccid: http://paste2.org/p/2661
[08:53] <what_if> when in doubt, reinstall :)
[08:53] <fiction> hell no
[08:53] <fiction> =[
[08:56] <ionus> !tvtuner
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ionus> !tv
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <ionus> how i can to install program for my tv tuner card
[08:57] <ionus> ?
[08:58] <flaccid> !mythtv
[08:58] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:58] <flaccid> !tvtime
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <flaccid> !info tvtime
[08:58] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[08:58] <flaccid> there is also a HCL somewhere
[08:59] <ionus> i can instal this from adept instaler
[08:59] <flaccid> you can install from adept yes
[08:59] <ionus> ok
[08:59] <ionus> thx
[08:59] <ionus> but driver for tv tuner?
[09:00] <Bennedetto> alright, does anyone know how to enable compiz (not beryl) in kubuntu?
[09:01] <akrus> Bennedetto: install compiz, not beryl
[09:01] <akrus> !info compiz-kde
[09:01] <ubotu> compiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13 (feisty), package size 77 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:01] <flaccid> like i said there is a HCL somewhere, don't know where
[09:01] <Bennedetto> akrus: yes, but is it installed by default?
[09:01] <flaccid> its optional as it says in universe
[09:01] <Bennedetto> ok
[09:01] <aegis042404> Hi, I'm new to irc....just had a few questions about wheather anyone has had any trouble upgrading to fiesty ?
[09:02] <flaccid> aegis042404: there is always trouble in upgrading
[09:02] <akrus> aegis042404: no troubles ever :o
[09:02] <akrus> xD
[09:02] <madmike> i'v had to reinstall it 5 times
[09:02] <madmike> but then again I keep breaking it hehe
[09:02] <aegis042404> or is a clen install recemended ?
[09:02] <akrus> flaccid: I've upgraded my friend's notebook without any problems :)
[09:02] <flaccid> aegis042404: i'd do an upgrade then if unsuccessful, reinstall
[09:03] <aegis042404> the upgrade wizard popped up...and I just say hell with it... and tried....but it didn't complete
[09:03] <madmike> clean install is always best i thinks
[09:03] <akrus> just replace sources.list and do the upgrade :dance:
[09:03] <flaccid> akrus: really. so does that mean it should work for every user in the world on their different hardware and different installed packages?
[09:03] <aegis042404> yeah...I usually think so....but I've got an awful lot of great stuff installed....
[09:03] <akrus> flaccid: it means we need base PC which will surely upgrade Kubuntu :D
[09:04] <akrus> so everyone will have the same PC everywhere
[09:04] <aegis042404> finally got my box the way I want it...except for a few things.....qdvdauthor for one...
[09:04] <akrus> !vote AMD
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vote amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <flaccid> akrus: thats bogus
[09:04] <flaccid> ah ffs
[09:04] <flaccid> thats so ignorant
[09:04] <akrus> ubotu: I just was voting
[09:04] <flaccid> not to mention unrealistic
[09:04] <akrus> :)
[09:04] <akrus> it's like communism :D
[09:05] <flaccid> its stupid is what it is
[09:05] <kaizoku> How do I increase the screen resolution.
[09:05] <flaccid> it pretty much pisses on the open community as well
[09:05] <akrus> kaizoku: system settings or/and xorg.conf
[09:05] <kaizoku> I set the new options in xorg.conf, but the resolution hasn't increased.
[09:05] <akrus> kaizoku: open your systemsettings and try changing it there
[09:05] <kaizoku> akrus: I did.
[09:06] <akrus> if you're using nvidia display adapter open nvidia-settings & change it there
[09:06] <shaddox> Hi everyone. Uh, I am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers. How do I fix this?
[09:06] <kaizoku> The highest options are the ones from before.
[09:06] <kaizoku> akrus: It's an ATI.
[09:06] <akrus> kaizoku: ATI Catalyst Control Center?
[09:06] <kaizoku> akrus: This is the live CD btw.
[09:06] <kalorin> flaccid: module assistant was my issue
[09:06] <kalorin> and it's fixed now
[09:06] <drumline_> Does the restricted codecs contain support for WMA files?
[09:06] <flaccid> ok
[09:07] <shaddox> Uh, I am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers, and there's no sound. How do I fix this?
[09:07] <akrus> kaizoku: live?!
[09:07] <kaizoku> akrus: Yes
[09:07] <flaccid> drumline_: yeah
[09:07] <akrus> drumline_: mplayer
[09:07] <flaccid> !wma
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <kalorin> it had the 8.35.5 kernel module in there, but was running the 8.36.5 drivers
[09:07] <drumline_> cool...
[09:07] <drumline_> mplayer is what I need?   Can't use amarok?
[09:07] <akrus> drumline_: mplayer implements the support for WMA
[09:07] <akrus> drumline_: while converting/playing/whatever...
[09:08] <shaddox> I am now in my new user, but it says now that there are no mixers, and there's no sound. How do I fix this?
[09:08] <drumline_> neat...  that sounds cool.
[09:08] <Jxjl> Can somebody help me with one problem? I have just installed kubuntu 7,04 and I have some problems with my soundcard. I have two soundcards in my PC. First is integrated VIA 8237, wich is disabled in BIOS. The second is Soundblaster live. Somtimes it works well, but sometimes kubuntu initializes the disabled integrated VIA instead Sound Blaster.
[09:08] <drumline_> akrus: how about you.  Do you know of anyone that has been thrown in the slammer or fined for using the restricted codecs for their own personal use?
[09:09] <flaccid> drumline_: which code are you referring to
[09:09] <akrus> drumline_: i'm in Russia, it's allowed there :)
[09:09] <what_if> Jxjl: you can put a line in alcs-conf to tell linux what card to use as "Default" hold on and I'll get the info
[09:09] <akrus> digital media is allowed, even if it has no license
[09:09] <shaddox> uh, i need help fixing my sound
[09:09] <akrus> alcs=alsa
[09:09] <akrus> o_O
[09:09] <akrus> isn't it?
[09:10] <drumline_> flaccid: that DeCSS code...   Does Mplayer use anything like that?   I'm just trying to find out if it's legal...
[09:10] <wolferine> why is it that I can view lns on my FTP but not dirs?
[09:11] <what_if> Jxjl: in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base put the line: options snd-emu10k1 index=0
[09:11] <flaccid> drumline_: no idea. but google is a better place to look. this is kubuntu support chan
[09:11] <what_if> Jxjl: where snd-emu10k1 is _your_ cards driver
[09:11] <aegis042404> haha...russia might be the only place to put you in prison for copyright violation...or software piracy
[09:11] <jussi01> hi everyone, whats kubuntu's update manager called? is it update manager as in ubuntu? or something else?
[09:12] <OxoTnicK> hi. i have a problem. can somebody help?
[09:12] <flaccid> !adept > jussi01
[09:12] <aegis042404> what is the problem... ?
[09:12] <drumline_> flaccid: sure..
[09:12] <flaccid> !ask
[09:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:12] <OxoTnicK> i have no free space left on root but there should be at least 14 gb
[09:12] <aegis042404> hmmm
[09:13] <jussi01> flaccid: I know adept is like synaptic, but i mean updates - the autmotic ones...
[09:13] <flaccid> OxoTnicK: pastebin output of df -h
[09:13] <aegis042404> clear out /tmp and /var ....
[09:13] <OxoTnicK> and i'm in recovery mode right now
[09:13] <aegis042404> maybe....
[09:13] <flaccid> jussi01: adept_notifier is enabled by default
[09:13] <flaccid> aegis042404: no don't clean out /var!!
[09:13] <jussi01> flaccid: ahh, thanks
[09:13] <aegis042404> no ?
[09:13] <aegis042404> why not ?
[09:13] <flaccid> var is not tmp
[09:13] <what_if> aegis042404: only /var/tmp :)
[09:14] <flaccid> mail and http can be stored there as well as configuration
[09:14] <flaccid> see man heir
[09:14] <OxoTnicK> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16984/
[09:14] <aegis042404> better question might be figuring out how your / is 14 gigs short
[09:14] <flaccid> OxoTnicK: / is full so need to find what filled it..
[09:14] <aegis042404> is /home on a seperate partition ?
[09:15] <OxoTnicK> home not separate.
[09:15] <flaccid> no its not
[09:15] <OxoTnicK> sec.  i'm difficult whis english. let me explane better
[09:15] <aegis042404> are there any files...large files....on /home/whatever you could delete ?
[09:15] <JakubS_>  /var/cache/apt/archives maybe?
[09:16] <aegis042404> how about apt-get clean ?
[09:16] <aegis042404> will that clear some space ?
[09:18] <OxoTnicK> when i came up in the morning ktorrent told me that there is no free space. i erased 14 gb. and started ktorrent again. 5 mins later it told me that there is no space again. i went to trash, ttied to find the files i deleted and did't find them, but there is no free 14gb also
[09:18] <Jxjl> what_if: I aded this line to alsa-base. And I see there theese lines: install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-emu10k1-synth ; } install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe -Qb snd-seq ; } Can I delete the second one with disabled card?
[09:19] <fdoving> OxoTnicK: you can try to run the command 'sync' in konsole.
[09:19] <OxoTnicK> i'm not looking how to free space but where the space i freed go
[09:19] <the_hammer> anyone here running 7.04 feisty fawn that can show me their sources.list?
[09:19] <the_hammer> or send to me?
[09:19] <what_if> Jxjl: I'd try commenting it out first.... :)
[09:19] <flaccid> !source-o-matic > the_hammer
[09:19] <what_if> OxoTnicK: df
[09:20] <JakubS_> OxoTnicK: if file you deleted was still held open by some app then it won't be really deleted (however you won't be able to see this file) until it is closed
[09:20] <fdoving> OxoTnicK: if you deleted 14GiB, there is no chance you could have downloaded that much in 5 minutes.
[09:20] <Jxjl> what_if: I`ll do that then reboot my PC and tell the result.
[09:20] <aegis042404> think maybe it wasn't really deleted
[09:20] <JakubS_> this bit me once when i tried to gain some free space by removing mysql log file while mysql was running
[09:21] <what_if> Jxjl:  k :)
[09:21] <what_if> the_hammer: http://pastebin.ca/452395
[09:21] <OxoTnicK> JakubS_, it was large video files and i'm prety sure that no prog used them at that moment
[09:21] <aegis042404> what is the name of the program that shows disk space used graphicly
[09:21] <what_if> the_hammer: sources.list :)
[09:21] <makuseru> is there any program that will save flash objects?
[09:21] <aegis042404> ktorrent might have been using them
[09:21] <os2mac> Ok, trying to do a bit for the community. I have already upgraded to Fiesty and I am trying to seed the torrent but I only have the default tracker from Canonical.... is anyone aware of any other trackers I can seed?
[09:22] <OxoTnicK> fdoving, i know that. i think that they have not deleted properly
[09:22] <what_if> aegis042404: baobab
[09:22] <makuseru> is there any program that will save flash objects in a web page?
[09:22] <fdoving> OxoTnicK: have a look at what jakubs_ told you 1 minute ago.
[09:22] <aegis042404> I don't think I got mine from canonical...
[09:22] <the_hammer> ty
[09:22] <what_if> the_hammer: yw
[09:23] <puppetmaster> Hi Everyone
[09:23] <puppetmaster> I have a question about wget
[09:24] <apus> how do I change what my mouse buttons do for certain programs with no dedicated preferences, like firefox the 2 thumb keys DON"T go forward and back
[09:24] <puppetmaster> Can I resume download with wget tool?
[09:24] <xushi> hi all
[09:24] <xushi> just wanted to congratulate on the new version
[09:24] <puppetmaster> Can I resume download with wget tool?
[09:24] <OxoTnicK> sync did't help
[09:25] <puppetmaster> anyone please
[09:25] <puppetmaster> Can I resume download with wget tool?
[09:25] <fdoving> puppetmaster: yes. the -c switch.
[09:25] <puppetmaster> i'll try
[09:25] <puppetmaster> thank you
[09:25] <unix_infidel> can ncftp do scp/sftp?
[09:26] <OxoTnicK> no one knows?
[09:26] <what_if> arg
[09:26] <what_if> OxoTnicK: whats the ques ?
[09:27] <puppetmaster> it worked
[09:27] <puppetmaster> Than you very much
[09:27] <puppetmaster> you are the best
[09:27] <OxoTnicK> what_if, what? didn't understand the last word
[09:27] <fdoving> unix_infidel: no, ncftp does not support any encryption.
[09:27] <unix_infidel> fdoving: thanks.
[09:27] <fdoving> unix_infidel: more info in their faq. http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/doc/faq.html
[09:28] <unix_infidel> fdoving: now of a cli client that does?
[09:28] <unix_infidel> know*
[09:28] <sonoftheclayr> how do i change the font in console?
[09:28] <sonoftheclayr> like ctrl + alt + F*
[09:29] <fdoving> unix_infidel: lftp
[09:29] <mrdlouisd> what is a good dvd player?
[09:30] <fdoving> sonoftheclayr: in /etc/default/console-setup
[09:30] <drumline_> I'm getting an issue where adept is whining about the packaging system database is already being used, but I've already restarted, so it can't possibly be used...   there must be a lockfile I need to remove...  can somebody tell me where it is?
[09:30] <unix_infidel> i wonder if mc can do ftp
[09:30] <fdoving> !adeptfix | drumline_
[09:30] <ubotu> drumline_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:30] <the_hammer> vlc is a nice player for dvds
[09:31] <sonoftheclayr> fdoving: ty
[09:31] <aegis042404> check for adept notifier too
[09:31] <aegis042404> if it's running it might lock you out
[09:32] <fdoving> aegis042404: that's what that command does, it checks what application is locking /var/lib/dpkg/lock - then ask if you want to kill it or not. :)
[09:32] <aegis042404> ahhh
[09:32] <mrdlouisd> thanks hammer totally spaced vlc was mutli platform
[09:32] <drumline_> fdoving: nice... that appears to be solving it.  I hope that becomes an automated process in the future.
[09:32] <insmod> 7.04 just killed my laptop lol
[09:33] <bobleny> Die laptop die!
[09:33] <Tired_> is there a web-based, searchable list of package name in kubuntu?
[09:33] <fdoving> drumline_: we're hoping adept stops crashing in the future too :)
[09:33] <fdoving> Tired_: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <Tired_> yay!
[09:33] <drumline_> fdoving: i guess synaptic is the better of the two
[09:34] <fdoving> drumline_: it's more mature, yes. adept is not so old software-wise. but it's KDE-ish :)
[09:34] <drumline_> yeah.  :)
[09:35] <sonoftheclayr> does anyone here program php-qt?
[09:35] <ionus> !tvtime
[09:35] <drumline_> man.. those restricted things don't install cleanly...
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Ash-Fox> !beryl
[09:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:35] <Ash-Fox> !xgl
[09:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:35] <Tired_> after my experience tonight with Adept, I'd prefer a graphical border around an aptget window
[09:35] <Jxjl> what_if: VIA 8237 active again => no sound can you help me, in wich section of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base should I add the option line?
[09:36] <fdoving> Tired_: if you don't like adept and can cope with console things, i'd recommend aptitude :)
[09:36] <Tired_> is aptitude in the default install?
[09:36] <Tired_> i'm used to emerge
[09:36] <Tired_> and double-clicking .exe's, of course
[09:36] <sonoftheclayr> Tired_: yes, it's in there by default
[09:37] <insmod> has the mouse option/dir changed -- because i have no mouse
[09:37] <reldruh> does anybody know of an applet for kontact or some way to keep it always running, but in the background. Right now it only checks my mail when I have it open and I'd rather not keep it running all the time.
[09:37] <what_if> Jxjl: I put mine as the very last line
[09:38] <Jxjl> what_if: it is the first line
[09:38] <Tired_> is there an aptitude help file in there?
[09:38] <Tired_> like "aptitude --help"?
[09:39] <ultrafuzz> anybody active tonight?
[09:39] <fdoving> Tired_: just start it, 'aptitude'
[09:39] <Jxjl> what_if: I`ll make it last
[09:39] <insmod> Tired_: apt-get is best -- synaptic is best gui one
[09:39] <Tired_> Ack!  I can't use that!  It has no super Cow powers!
[09:39] <fdoving> Tired_: then go to help -> usermanual.
[09:40] <what_if> Jxjl: don't know if that makes a difference, but thats what the howto I used said to do
[09:40] <ultrafuzz> i just updated and now i cannot access my USB drive, the drive has NTSF filesystem...
[09:40] <jussi01> can someone tell me how to stop windows bunching up in the notification area?
[09:40] <jussi01> i mean like grouping all the firefox together...
[09:41] <blackflag> !opengl
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <fdoving> jussi01: right-click on the panel -> configure panel -> taskbar (or similar) -> "Group when..." - dropdown. (translated on the fly, might not be entirely correct)
[09:43] <jussi01> fdoving: thanks, ill give it a go
[09:43] <jussi01> fdoving: yeah, thanks sorte
[09:43] <jussi01> d
[09:44] <makuseru> is there any program that will download(extract) a flash object form a website?
[09:44] <fdoving> makuseru: i'd start searching the firefox extensions.
[09:44] <XVampireX> http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=katapultbugnz7.png
[09:45] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with this?
[09:45] <makuseru> fdoving: i only found somthing that gets youtube video, that not what i need tho
[09:46] <fdoving> makuseru: something like this: http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/11/save-flash-from-firefox-and-ie.html ?
[09:46] <aegis042404> oh yeah
[09:46] <aegis042404> a firefox plug in will do it
[09:46] <Kubuntu> How can I make torrentz faster?
[09:47] <aegis042404> it's called unplug
[09:47] <Kubuntu> I downloads at 1-10kbs while kubuntu downloads at 370kbs?
[09:48] <makuseru> Kububtu: its probably just that torrent
[09:49] <ultrafuzz> i just updated and now i cannot access my USB drive, the drive has NTSF filesystem...
[09:49] <what_if> Kubuntu: your router can make a lot of difference also... if doing hundreds of connections
[09:50] <makuseru> XVampireX: nice background
[09:50] <XVampireX> makuseru: Yeah but I still need helping with it...
[09:51] <makuseru> XVampireX: whats your problem? the katapult thing is fuzzy? its always good to SAY what your problem is
[09:51] <XVampireX> makuseru: You never used katapult?
[09:51] <XVampireX> The pic is REALLY self explanitory... really...
[09:52] <premier_> hello, can some one recomend an audio editor for linux?  I tried audactiy, but it was crashy and didn't have the features I wanted.  I also tried ardour, and I couldn't get it to start
[09:52] <Tired_> is there a fairly clear troubleshooting guide online for Beryl?
[09:52] <makuseru> XVampireX: no, i dont
[09:52] <premier_> Tired_: I wish
[09:53] <Tired_> i wish too  :/
[09:53] <Tired_> i know that it crashes, but that's about it
[09:53] <premier_> Tired_: keep pecking at google, eventually you'll find something
[09:53] <makuseru> XVampireX: and no, its not self explanitory
[09:53] <XVampireX> makuseru: So you wouldn't know... but yeah, the katapult thing looks fuzzy and it at LEAST had to use fake transparency.
[09:53] <dek> I am running the Distribution Upgrade and it has just crashed, it had already downloaded everything. Can i recover it?
[09:53] <XVampireX> Yes it is
[09:54] <premier_> Tired_: can you say anything else?  Anything at all?  Theres a way to get error messages... /var/log/something
[09:55] <premier_> try starting beryl-manager in a terminal, and tell me the last line of output after it crashes
[09:55] <Tired_> see, that's the kind of troubleshooting guide i need.  all i was going on was plain white screen
[09:55] <premier_> Tired_:
[09:55] <premier_> Oh, yeah, the white screen of death
[09:55] <premier_> You can actually rotate the cube while that happens, kinda cool
[09:56] <premier_> apparently it because beryl can't render textures
[09:56] <tmbg> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs-dev_7.2-0ubuntu11_all.deb Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10). - connect (111 Connection refused) <--- I keep getting this when trying to do a distribution upgrade.
[09:56] <premier_> try beryl --use-copy... I think thats the line
[09:56] <fdoving> tmbg: try another mirror.
[09:57] <premier_> Tired_: you know you can use ctrl-alt-backspace to kill beryl without restarting you computer, right?  Just making sure you're not restarting every time
[09:57] <premier_> I've been there
[09:57] <XVampireX> So can anyone with more brains than muscles solve this?: http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=katapultbugnz7.png
[09:58] <Tired_> yes, i know.  beryl-manager has no output at all in a console
[09:58] <tmbg> fdoving, at the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, how do I do that?
[09:59] <sonoftheclayr> is anyone in here using kde4?
[10:00] <fdoving> tmbg: open /etc/apt/sources.list with an text editor, from kde kmenu -> run command 'kdesu -- kate /etc/apt/sources.list' then change ca.archive.ubuntu.com to for example us.archive.ubuntu.com - then fetch list of updates again.
[10:00] <ubuntu_> I get trown out of my network, and then I can't see it. What should I do??
[10:00] <tmbg> is canada the default archive? I can't imagine I would pick canada on purpose.
[10:01] <hyper_ch> how can I find out if my install is still beta or whether it's stable?
[10:02] <fdoving> hyper_ch: are there any updates left to install?
[10:03] <premier_> sonoftheclayr: no, but I'm looking forward to the final release... what are you doing with it?
[10:03] <hyper_ch> fdoving: I haven't had any updates since about april 17
[10:03] <hyper_ch> fdoving: and I just tend to think there should be something :)
[10:03] <premier_> I think I found a broken package, should I report it?
[10:03] <Tired_> well, beryl -use-copy did stuff, but it ran so sluggishly that it made everything unusable
[10:03] <XVampireX> cowsay moo
[10:04] <Tired_> what was it using a copy of
[10:04] <codonil> hyper_ch: do an apt-get update, and if there are no more packages, I think you have the latest stuff
[10:04] <codonil> stable release, that is
[10:05] <Hobbsee> premier_: which package is it?
[10:05] <fdoving> premier_: reporting it would help getting it fixed, bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <Hobbsee> premier_: and it's already released
[10:05] <hyper_ch> codonil: so there weren't any updates from Beta to Stable... I just altered my sources to not use the swiss mirror but archive.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <premier_> Hobbsee, I mean the release in fall
[10:07] <Hobbsee> premier_: ah.  wouldnt bother filing broken deps for gutsy yet - do that after the merges
[10:07] <codonil> hyper_ch: well, I can't confirm that, I'm still on Edgy :)
[10:07] <bbm4n> has anyone installed feisty?
[10:07] <hyper_ch> codonil: :) you are so outdated *g* nope, looks like there weren't any updates from Beta to Stable
[10:07] <ubuntu_> 79% on installing feisty!
[10:07] <ubuntu_> 80%
[10:07] <Tired_> thanks for all the help...my bed is calling me
[10:07] <ubuntu_> Allready?
[10:08] <tmbg> I'm at like .1% on installing feisty
[10:08] <bbm4n> 11:08 am here
[10:08] <Tired_> dude, it's 1am here, i've been installing and setting up now for 12 hours
[10:08] <bbm4n> oh
[10:08] <Tired_> i need a fresh start if i'm going to wrap my brain around this beryl stuff
[10:09] <Tired_> hmm, wrapping brain around Beryl...new theme?  ;P
[10:09] <premier_> fdoving: Hobbsee: the package is ardour, a sound editor.  It requires jack to run it, but it does not appear to install it.  Ardour will not run after being installed from apt-get
[10:09] <bbm4n> dk about beryl in my system config i had some problems..
[10:10] <bbm4n> and i did a fresh install
[10:10] <premier_> Is it safe to install kde4 just to look at it?  I won't screw up my kde3 install, will it?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> premier_: ahh.  check for a bug alraedy
[10:10] <Aattila> Hi, I installed feisty and since I have only 640x480 screen resolution with vesa driver. I have via vn800 video card and tried via and unichrome driver but do not work. What should I do?
[10:11] <Hobbsee> premier_: shouldnt do.  it crashes a lot though, as it's only the last snapshot from a couple of months ago
[10:11] <premier_> Hobbsee: is there anything worth seeing yet?  Anything at all?
[10:12] <nbcb> how to check if java is installed
[10:12] <Hobbsee> premier_: some.
[10:12] <premier_> Hobbsee: has any work been done on plasma yet?
[10:12] <nbcb> Java Runtime Version
[10:12] <nbcb> 
[10:12] <nbcb> 1.6.0
[10:12] <premier_> Hobbsee: can I just apt-get kde4?
[10:12] <nbcb> You do NOT have the latest version of Java software.
[10:12] <Hobbsee> premier_: only after that snapshot was done.  check dot.kde.org for progress
[10:12] <Hobbsee> premier_: something like that, yes
[10:13] <premier_> Hobbsee: just to confirm, it won't overwrite any data, or anything?
[10:13] <nbcb> sorry
[10:13] <Hobbsee> premier_: no - it writes to ~/.kde4 etc
[10:13] <nbcb> why when i run azureus i get exec: 40: java: not found
[10:13] <Hobbsee> !java | nbcb
[10:14] <ubotu> nbcb: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:14] <nbcb> but i do have java
[10:15] <premier_> Hobbsee: whats the meta package, do you know?
[10:17] <premier_> Hobbsee: what's been done so far?
[10:17] <Hobbsee> premier_: not offhand.  apt-cache search will
[10:17] <premier_> yeah, theres a lot
[10:17] <premier_> kde4base - core applications for KDE 4 testing  <- is that it?
[10:22] <Jxjl> what_if: thank you very much 10 reboots and no problems
[10:22] <premier_> Hobbsee: what is there to see so far in kde4?
[10:22] <what_if> Jxjl: np, I had a similar problem :)
[10:23] <os2mac> is anyone else have a problem with the suspend functions in acpi?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> premier_: see the stuff on dot.kde.org
[10:23] <Hobbsee> there's other kde4* packages
[10:24] <montoya> Hi, in version 7.04 is present (at end of installation) the section "enable 3d desktop effects" ???
[10:24] <premier_> os2mac: I have a lot of trouble with that.  What graphics card are you using?  What kind of compy is it?
[10:24] <premier_> montoya: do you know what their talking about?
[10:25] <os2mac> Dell Inspiron 8600 with a Gforce2 fx5200 card.
[10:25] <nbcb> hey anyone knows what is that listening tcp incoming port for azureus?
[10:25] <montoya> mmmmm
[10:25] <montoya> with ubuntu (not kubuntu)
[10:26] <montoya> there is a section "enable 3d desktop effects???"
[10:26] <os2mac> Premier_ looking at the bug reporting for it now....
[10:26] <montoya> now, in kubuntu?
[10:26] <montoya> is there?
[10:26] <geremia> :-)
[10:26] <premier_> montoya: whats you're question?
[10:27] <premier_> montoya: Is there a langauge you prefer besides english?  There may be support in your langauge.
[10:28] <montoya> no problem... I'm stupid with english
[10:29] <montoya> I don't speak english
[10:30] <Hobbsee> montoya: the "enable 3d effects is only in ubuntu, not in kubuntu.  however, you can install compiz, or beryl-kde if you wish
[10:31] <montoya> thanks sarah
[10:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:32] <os2mac> Premier_: I see a bunch of bugs for similar problems. basically Laptop suspends throws a bunch of USB bus errors and then fails to come out of suspend... I have to reboot to fix it.
[10:33] <premier_> os2mac, yeah, that sound about right.  Theres some conflct with usb and acpi and graphics cards and wireless adapters... I can't figure it out.  There should never be a situation where a computer can't come out of suspend
[10:34] <os2mac> premier_: where are the power management controls in settings?
[10:43] <premier_> os2mac are you using guidance or kpowersave?
[10:43] <os2mac> premier_ i didn't change anything with the fiesty install so what ever gets used by default.
[10:43] <llutz> how can i get rid of the standby/hibernate-buttons in kde-logoff screen?
[10:44] <premier_> llutz: does it matter?
[10:44] <llutz> premier_: yep
[10:44] <premier_> wri?
[10:44] <os2mac> premier_ I had to open kcontrol and found them there....
[10:45] <premier_> os2mac, yeah, I don't understand why system settings doesn't have some things kcontrol has... whats the point?
[10:46] <os2mac> not sure why either.... I was just looking at the laptop battery control in Kcontrol. I thought it had a profile whereas you could tell acpi what kind of computer you had and it would configure acpi for you to be compatible.
[10:46] <os2mac> but it doesn't
[10:49] <dettoaltrimenti> does anyone here use dcgui?
[10:50] <icecruncher> how can I decrease the icon size in the task bar?
[10:51] <premier_> icecruncher: you have to change the size of the entire task bar, or use the quick launcher applet
[10:52] <premier_> kinda annoying, I know
[10:53] <icecruncher> premier_: quick launcher applet, you mean what?
[10:53] <premier_> icecruncher: are you new to linux?
[10:53] <icecruncher> premier_: kubuntu
[10:53] <premier_> kde?
[10:54] <icecruncher> not really
[10:54] <premier_> okay, its in the "add applet" window
[10:54] <david_> Hello Night-time linux-ers
[10:55] <premier_> david_: its not nighttime everywhere
[10:55] <icecruncher> premier_: thanks a lot
[10:55] <ubuntu> i need help
[10:55] <david_> Your're right-- hehe...
[10:55] <se7en> It's Sunday, April 22, 2007, at 3:55 PM in Asia/Bangkok
[10:55] <premier_> (as it happens, it 2 am in california, but somewhere its not nighttime)
[10:56] <premier_> se7en: its like the future
[10:56] <mrcreativity> im trying to install kubuntu
[10:56] <se7en> :)
[10:56] <premier_> mrcreativity: thats half the battle
[10:56] <mrcreativity> but when i select start or install, the screen gets messed up. i need to start it in safe video mode to reach the live desktop
[10:56] <premier_> mrcreativity: what kind of video card are you using?
[10:56] <mrcreativity> nvidia gefore 6600gt
[10:57] <premier_> hmmm... I don't know enough to help you
[10:57] <mrcreativity> so anyone?
[10:57] <david_> Nvidia is a pain in the ass.  I've been trying to get a driver working for hours
[10:58] <icecruncher> premier_: what about the actual applications? running in the system tray?
[10:58] <mrcreativity> it works fine on my laptop with a 6800 \
[10:58] <premier_> david_: really?  I have ati... I willing to bet its worse
[10:58] <mrcreativity> \does anyone here know enough u healp me
[10:58] <david_> lol premier
[10:58] <premier_> prove ati is not worse! prove it!
[10:58] <mrcreativity> ok...at least tell me this, how do i setup the driver after i install kubuntu?
[10:58] <premier_> icecruncher: no idea
[10:59] <david_> heh... given the huge difficulties it caused the ubuntu team-- Yeah ATI is worse I bet hehe
[10:59] <premier_> mrcreativity: there may be tutorials online
[11:00] <premier_> david_: how bad is nVidia?  I'm building my own compy this summer, so I want to know how I can avoid capatability issues?
[11:00] <mrcreativity> whats this wallet thing thtat keep poppoing up
[11:01] <david_> Nvidia is fine. :)  I'm just annoyed because I'm new to Linux and thing things should work out of the box. :)  I'm no expert, sorry.
[11:02] <david_> right now I'm actually struggling to figure out how to run my graphics installer as "root"
[11:03] <premier_> mrcreativity: the kde wallet manages passwords and protected information.  You can set it up so you have a single system wide password rather than many
[11:03] <os2mac> !kwallet
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <mrcreativity> but does it have to ask me the password everytime i boot up
[11:04] <os2mac> mrcreativity: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html
[11:04] <icecruncher> premier_: best solution, set taskbar to large. lol
[11:06] <premier_> mrcreativity: what program is accesing the wallet?
[11:06] <premier_> it should say
[11:06] <david_> quick question:  I'm typing sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run ... and then it errors and says I need to be in root
[11:06] <david_> should I do sudo instead?
[11:06] <david_> I'm new sorry.
[11:07] <mrcreativity> david_: did u try sudo?
[11:08] <david_> well sudo says command not found right now... I'll try again hoping I mistyped...
[11:10] <icecruncher> anybody know how to decrease the size of desktop icons?
[11:11] <pharsalus> I am having problems with powering off my desktop pc. I am using Kubuntu 7.04 and it shuts down Kubuntu then hangs, no power off. Has anyone experianced similar issues and can help resolve?
[11:12] <premier_> hey, anyone who's used kde4... I'm running it right now... whats there to see?
[11:14] <pharsalus> I think the all knowing ones are still in bed. :)
[11:15] <david_> heh
[11:15] <david_> Does anybody here know how to enter "root" in Konsole?
[11:15] <flaccid> !root
[11:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:15] <david_> really?
[11:15] <david_> one sec
[11:16] <premier_> david: you can go to one of the menus and the should have thing that says, "open root session
[11:16] <premier_> "
[11:16] <david_> ok...I'll check that too
[11:17] <david_> oMG that worked
[11:17] <david_> yesss!
[11:17] <steffen> Hi, i can't find how to enable Compiz in Kubuntu. Anyone an idea?
[11:18] <flaccid> !compiz
[11:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:18] <pharsalus> Kubuntu 7.04 user, system not powering off on shutdown. Anybody can assist/discuss?
[11:18] <bbm4n> have the same problem
[11:19] <bbm4n> it happens at 10%
[11:19] <bbm4n> and it mostly happens when i close the laptop lid after i have pressed shutdown
[11:19] <steffen> flaccid: What you want to tell me with this?
[11:20] <flaccid> steffen: i do not understand
[11:21] <bbm4n> @ pharsalus these i said before..
[11:22] <jermain> hi all
[11:22] <jermain> i have a problem:
[11:22] <jermain> my comp knows my ext. hd is there
[11:22] <flaccid> we all have problems
[11:22] <jermain> :)
[11:22] <jermain> mine > yours
[11:22] <jermain> :p
[11:23] <steffen> flaccid: everytime soneone asks a question like help me with blahblah. someone types !blahblah as if all people with questions are dumb. Last time i tried to ask in IRC
[11:23] <david_> arrgh.... Okay I got a Konsole program to run and give me an error as my user, but in root, it says access denied.  How do I install something from Konsole?
[11:23] <RandomLuser> Don't get me started about problems.
[11:23] <RandomLuser> lol
[11:23] <david_> heh
[11:23] <flaccid> steffen: i still dont understand. read the compiz how to.
[11:24] <jermain> davind: sudo rm <filename>
[11:24] <david_> ok... one second... I'll try sudo rm jermain
[11:24] <Hobbsee> steffen: it's not that - it's that it's been asked before, and people have put all the documentation for it in one place
[11:24] <flaccid> !apt-get > david_
[11:25] <icecruncher> ugh, just had a horror experience, kwin crahed and i had a wierd desktop menu. nasty
[11:25] <Zeddy> anyone seen an error  like this before (google isnt helping me :( )
[11:25] <Zeddy> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[11:25] <Zeddy>  EOF after field name `'
[11:27] <premier_> I know that this is a loaded question, but how much does stuff "just work" in debian compared to ubuntu
[11:27] <david_> lol... I was wondering that
[11:27] <flaccid> thats a stupid question
[11:27] <premier_> flaccid: thanks
[11:27] <flaccid> and one that can't really be answered
[11:28] <pharsalus> It works if you are prepared to make it work... It's a challenge, a test of your abilities. :)
[11:28] <premier_> well, I'm starting to get tired of the frustrations of things not just working in linux, and I'm wondering if a different distro would help
[11:29] <what_if> premier_: what does not work ?
[11:29] <flaccid> i think you need more experience, premier_
[11:29] <RandomLuser> IMHO, (k|x)ubuntu is more polished from an end user perspective, debian still remains a high quality distribution, but it also remains geared for more technical users
[11:29] <premier_> what_if: different things at different times... right know open office won't start because of a driver conflict with my fglrx ati drivers
[11:29] <flaccid> ubuntu uses debian packages
[11:30] <RandomLuser> Propriatary software and drivers are always going to be a source of problems.
[11:30] <flaccid> all distros have bugs and/or issues. this is a fact
[11:30] <premier_> RandomLuser: well, theres some other stuff too, let me think of something
[11:30] <what_if> premier_: I've heard horror stories about fglrx...
[11:31] <flaccid> i've used many linux distros and operating systems. problems on all. never a smooth run
[11:31] <premier_> what_if: it deserves horror storys
[11:31] <flaccid> sometimes the problem is not the driver. the problem is the user
[11:31] <premier_> I can't use the terminal windows, I can't suspend or hibernate
[11:31] <RandomLuser> If at all possible, you want to be using the xorg drivers and not the propriatary ones.
[11:32] <what_if> premier_: sounds like you need to upgrade / reinstall :)
[11:32] <flaccid> premier_: you might need to config acpi or apm
[11:32] <premier_> flaccid: in order to fix it, I was told to move over a particular OpenGL driver, but it didn't work
[11:32] <premier_> flaccid: how do I config acpi?
[11:33] <premier_> what_if: I upgraded to feisty last week
[11:33] <vbgunz> I've upgraded to Feisty and KNetworkManager just sits in the tray not looking for anything... I have no idea what to do with it... how do I get it to work with my wireless card/.
[11:33] <flaccid> premier_: lots of things don't work. you need to persist.
[11:33] <flaccid> !acpi
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <flaccid> !find acpi
[11:33] <ubotu> Found: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, acpidump, acpitool (and 4 others)
[11:33] <flaccid> !info acpid
[11:33] <ubotu> acpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[11:33] <flaccid> acpi setup will be in the forums, wiki or google somewhere
[11:34] <flaccid> i think you just install then you can config it in kcontrol or system settings
[11:34] <david_> Okay... another easy question for an expert.... How do you access user files from the root shell?
[11:34] <vbgunz> david_: just do it
[11:34] <flaccid> david_: cd /home/user
[11:34] <david_> thanks
[11:35] <flaccid> !bash
[11:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:35] <flaccid> some basics^^
[11:35] <vbgunz> !knetworkmanager > vbgunz
[11:35] <david_> good link
[11:35] <premier_> btw, do any of you have opinions on amd vs intel?  I want to go for a amd64 bit for my new compy, but my freinds are trying to steer me to a "faster" intel.  I don't think they know much about amd
[11:35] <flaccid> either is fine
[11:35] <vbgunz> premier_: why 64?
[11:36] <premier_> because its awesome
[11:36] <flaccid> amd64 won't have as much support
[11:36] <premier_> as intel64 or as 32 bit
[11:36] <vbgunz> just curious
[11:36] <flaccid> as 32
[11:36] <premier_> vbgunz: I don't know, something about the future
[11:37] <JohnFlux> premier_: how much money do you want to spend?
[11:37] <JohnFlux> premier_: it's kinda hard to call at the moment
[11:37] <flaccid> by the time 64bit as equal support, you;ll probably want to buy a new 64bih processor
[11:37] <JohnFlux> premier_: at this very second, amd is the best buy for a certain amount of money
[11:37] <premier_> flaccid: I hear I can run a 32 bit OS in emulation mode and its fine.  I might dual boot an 64 bit OS and a 32 bit OS
[11:37] <RandomLuser> I'd look heavily at virtualization support as a factor.
[11:37] <JohnFlux> premier_: but tomorrow intel is dropping their prices
[11:37] <premier_> JohnFlux: I can spend quite a bit
[11:37] <premier_> tommarow?
[11:38] <premier_> RandomLuser: virtualization support?
[11:38] <JohnFlux> premier_: iirc
[11:38] <JohnFlux> premier_: you've chosen the right time to buy :-)
[11:38] <david_> New error: What process do I kill to stop using an "x-server" temporarily?
[11:38] <premier_> iirc?
[11:38] <RandomLuser> premier_: intel's VT or AMD's pacifica
[11:38] <JohnFlux> iirc = if I remember correctly
[11:38] <salaah> alright...i have kubuntu up and running. can someone tell me how i can edit the bootloader
[11:38] <premier_> david_: the xserver is not something you what to kill
[11:38] <vbgunz> david_: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[11:38] <premier_> usually
[11:38] <JohnFlux> premier_: new chips support VT.  it means you can run windows and linux at the same time
[11:39] <david_> ok....
[11:39] <premier_> JohnFlux: how does that work?
[11:39] <vbgunz> david then use /etc/init.d/kdm start when you want it back
[11:39] <premier_> (and why is that possible?)
[11:39] <premier_> JohnFlux: anyway, I'll be buying this summer, not right away
[11:40] <vbgunz> JohnFlux: whats the command to find out if my chip supports VT?
[11:40] <salaah> anyone?
[11:40] <premier_> probably may or june
[11:40] <vbgunz> salaah: not sure what you mean :(
[11:40] <RandomLuser> premier_: hardware virtualization means you can run several operating systems at once without the overhead of an emulation or software virtualization layer, or with greatly reduced overhead.
[11:40] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: cat /proc/cpuinfo     i think, and look for vt
[11:40] <salaah> i want to edit the boot loader to change the order
[11:40] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: under flags
[11:40] <JohnFlux> RandomLuser: um
[11:40] <premier_> salaah: are you using grub?  theres a config file in /boot/grub, iirc
[11:40] <flaccid> salaah: order of what?
[11:41] <salaah> yeah,
[11:41] <JohnFlux> RandomLuser: i know what you're saying, but if the OS supports it, it's best to use software virtualization
[11:41] <salaah> im using grub....how do i edit menu.lst
[11:41] <vbgunz> salaah: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <JohnFlux> RandomLuser: it's just that, of course, windows doesn't support it
[11:41] <vbgunz> salaah: you need to be sudo
[11:41] <salaah> oh...
[11:41] <flaccid> salaah: with a text editor like kate or nano
[11:41] <salaah> but it wont let me save.,..i tried that already
[11:42] <salaah> im a sudo, i just installed it
[11:42] <premier_> RandomLuser: how does that work to the luser? ;)  I mean, do you switch back and forth, or do the divy up the screen?  Or does on run in a window of the other?
[11:42] <JohnFlux> premier_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen
[11:42] <bbm4n> flaccid: or vi
[11:42] <premier_> salaah: go sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:42] <vbgunz> salaah: how you editing? in console or with an editor like kate?
[11:42] <flaccid> bbm4n: or any of the 104839809 text editors available in the world
[11:42] <salaah> editor
[11:43] <JohnFlux> premier_: I've only done it with linux, freebsd  etc
[11:43] <salaah> let me try the terminal now
[11:43] <flaccid> salaah: what command were you using?
[11:43] <vbgunz> salaah: it should let you save if you opened it as sudo
[11:43] <JohnFlux> premier_: but there I booted into linux, then you use vnc to see the other OSes
[11:43] <salaah> i tried that, i get some sort of error
[11:43] <david_> Hi... Lol I appreciate the person who told me how, but I guess I crashed my computer... LOL
[11:43] <JohnFlux> premier_: see the screenshot on the wikipedia link i gave
[11:43] <salaah> a long eror msg
[11:43] <premier_> JohnFlux
[11:44] <premier_> that sounds kinda cool... does windows get its own partition?  How does it handle device access?
[11:44] <flaccid> we can't sense what the error message is
[11:44] <flaccid> we have to be shown what the error is
[11:44] <salaah> its looooooooooooooooong
[11:44] <JohnFlux> premier_: all device access goes through 'xen'  which is a tiny OS that boots first
[11:44] <flaccid> !pastebin > salaah
[11:45] <JohnFlux> premier_: so  linux and windows are both guests inside xen
[11:45] <salaah> ok...
[11:45] <premier_> JohnFlux: cool. Does amd or intel have better VT support?
[11:45] <vbgunz> JohnFlux: I tried "cat /proc/cpuinfo" I don't see VT or anything like it, I guess I am assed out :(
[11:45] <JohnFlux> premier_: it's the same
[11:46] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: intel or amd?
[11:46] <premier_> JohnFlux: so what about Intel vs AMD?  Am I completely nuts to want an amd proccessor?
[11:46] <vbgunz> intel pentium 4 about 2 years old
[11:46] <vbgunz> I use VirtualBox and Windows runs great
[11:46] <JohnFlux> premier_: there's not much difference in it
[11:47] <vbgunz> but I bet if I supported VT it would probably rock
[11:47] <JohnFlux> premier_: at the moment I'd say chose amd because I don't want them to go bankrupt :-D
[11:47] <bbm4n> interl p4 was a failure imo it had the crappiest pipeline ever
[11:47] <salaah> flaccid: i using pastebin...please wait
[11:48] <MementoMori> ciao a tutti
[11:48] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: egrep -e 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo
[11:48] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: try that
[11:48] <vbgunz> nope, nothing, I am truly and officially assed out huh :/
[11:48] <vbgunz> heh
[11:48] <JohnFlux> vbgunz: yeah
[11:48] <MementoMori> ho un grosso problema col mio hard disk... sembra che non voglia abilitare il dma...
[11:49] <premier_> JohnFlux: I saw that you can get two amd dual core processors to run in parrallel with  a special motherboard... is there good linux support for that kinda thing?
[11:49] <salaah> damn...pastebin isnt working for some reason
[11:49] <JohnFlux> premier_: yep, pretty good support
[11:49] <david_> gnite beautiful and helpful people... :)
[11:49] <vbgunz> david_: gnight!
[11:49] <JohnFlux> premier_: linux supports several hundred cpus :-)
[11:49] <MementoMori> ops... I forgot here is an english chan ;)
[11:50] <premier_> MementoMori: ?
[11:50] <JohnFlux> MementoMori: you have big problems with hard disk, it doesn't have dma    or somethign? :)
[11:50] <MementoMori> I'm in trouble with my hd... It seems it's impossibile to turn dma on...
[11:50] <JohnFlux> MementoMori: haha, cool.  and I don't even know what language that is
[11:51] <MementoMori> writing hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda return with an erros
[11:51] <MementoMori> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:51] <MementoMori> mmm
[11:51] <MementoMori> but I'm sure it is dma capable
[11:52] <MementoMori> !pastebin
[11:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:53] <MementoMori> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16997/
[11:53] <MementoMori> would you please take a look to my oaste?
[11:53] <MementoMori> s/oaste/paste
[11:54] <bu2> anyone know about an feisty upgrade error with "/bin/sh: can't acess tty; job control turned off (initramfs)"
[11:54] <vbgunz> anyone know why Thunderbird 2 didn't make it into Fesity?
[11:55] <vbgunz> s/Fesity/Feisty
[11:55] <RandomLuser> vbgunz: it released same day as Feisty IIRC
[11:55] <vbgunz> oh
[11:56] <MidMark> hi
[11:56] <MementoMori> hi
[11:56] <ubuntu> is peers people that downloads from me?
[11:56] <ubuntu> on torrent what is peers?
[11:56] <RandomLuser> no possible way for it to make it in, freeze takes a while...
[11:56] <MidMark> is there a bug report for the problem that in Feisty I cannot install more than 1 debian package with right click?
[11:56] <vbgunz> anyone know how to configure KnetworkManager to actually work? it's just sitting in my tray taking up space :(
[11:57] <MementoMori> so... no news from the hdpart problem?
[11:57] <premier_> ubuntu: I think you're sharing back and forth with peers... don't really know
[11:57] <MementoMori> vbgunz: I had no problem with knetworkmanager... It simply works
[11:57] <vbgunz> it's just sitting in my tray :(
[11:58] <salaah> i cant figure this out...
[11:58] <salaah> i really need help
[11:58] <vbgunz> It don't show any networks or anything :(
[11:58] <premier_> thats weird.... I keep trying to update, but it keeps saying "there was an error fetching updates"
[11:58] <MementoMori> vbgunz: do you want it to discover wl networks?
[11:58] <salaah> i'm trying to eidt menu.lst but i keep getting some error msg
[11:58] <MementoMori> vbgunz: or wired networks?
[11:58] <premier_> I added a new repo... thats prolly it
[11:58] <vbgunz> MementoMori: yeah, sure :)
[11:58] <vbgunz> wireless
[11:59] <flaccid> salaah: what is the error
[11:59] <MementoMori> ok... is your wl cards correctly recognized and working?
[11:59] <vbgunz> salaah: try www.dpaste.com if the other pastebin is not working
[11:59] <premier_> nope, not it
[11:59] <flaccid> what is the command you are using salaah. we asked this already
[11:59] <vbgunz> MementoMori: yes, I am connected through my wireless now
[11:59] <salaah> sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:59] <vbgunz> salaah: do you get the editor?
[11:59] <vbgunz> does it come up?
[12:00] <salaah> no...
[12:00] <salaah> no
[12:00] <vbgunz> oh ok
[12:00] <MementoMori> but knm doesnt show anything... Am I right?
[12:00] <flaccid> don't use sudo for X apps salahh
[12:00] <vbgunz> try sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:00] <flaccid> use kdesu /boot/grub/menu.lst and ensure root is enabled
[12:00] <vbgunz> MementoMori: no, it doesn't show anything and I know I have several routers in my vicinity including mine
[12:01] <salaah> http://dpaste.com/8861/
[12:01] <MementoMori> maybe they arent broadcasting their sid......
[12:01] <flaccid> !baddevice > salaah
[12:01] <vbgunz> salaah: those errors are due to some configs in your xorg.conf
[12:01] <flaccid> that is normal and non-destructive
[12:02] <salaah> oh...and what should i do
[12:02] <Last_Hero> I accidently downloaded some GNOME desktop things (icon packs and stuff), would I use "sudo purge gnome" to remove them?
[12:02] <vbgunz> salaah: they're basically harmless
[12:02] <flaccid> salaah: nothing.
[12:02] <salaah> cool.
[12:03] <MementoMori> so...... I think no one read my hdpart paste :(
[12:04] <premier_> JohnFlux: would it be worth it (it being $400) to run two dual core AMD64's in parallel?  How does that compare to a single dual core AMD64, or a quad core intel, would you guess?
[12:04] <flaccid> MementoMori: people probably did. if someone can help they will.
[12:04] <vbgunz> salaah: open up that file you want to edit like so: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:04] <MementoMori> flaccid: I think you are right :D
[12:04] <salaah> i think its done...
[12:04] <MementoMori> i'll move to #linux
[12:04] <salaah> i tried the command again and the error msg came up and the editor opened
[12:05] <vbgunz> salaah: once you have the file open, nano is really easy to use... just pay attention to the lower part of the window, those commands listed you'll need to be aware of in order to successfully save your changes
[12:05] <vbgunz> salaah: I can tell you how to get rid of those errors but first you'll need to successfully open/edit a file as root
[12:05] <salaah> yeah, its done. now i need to reboot and see if it works
[12:06] <salaah> oh...
[12:06] <salaah> wait...let me install drivers for me graphic card so that i can increase the screen res
[12:07] <salaah> vbgunz: u have a clue as to how i can install nvidia drivers?
[12:08] <flaccid> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <premier_> has anyone here ever used snes9x?
[12:08] <vbgunz> salaah: backup and edit this file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for 3 particular 'Section "InputDevice"' sections... the identifiers to those sections in which you might be able to safely remove in which some or all are causing the errors are: stylus, eraser and cursor... don't just remove them, comment them out, you might need them later.
[12:09] <salaah> when u say comment them out u mean add * right?
[12:10] <vbgunz> salaah: oh forgot to mention, in this part of xorg.conf 'Section "ServerLayout"' you need to also comment out stylus, eraser and cursor, save your file and restart x
[12:10] <flaccid> !baddevice
[12:10] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:10] <flaccid> #
[12:10] <vbgunz> salaah: no, #
[12:10] <salaah> oh yeah
[12:10] <salaah> give me a moment
[12:11] <salaah> done...now i reboot my computer?
[12:12] <vbgunz> salaah: that link flaccid raised is a good bookmark
[12:12] <vbgunz> salaah: no don't reboot, never reboot, Linux knows-all and does-all... trust us, it works... or you can just reboot :)
[12:12] <salaah> yeah, but the links helps with ubuntu, cant see a thing about kubuntu 7.04
[12:13] <salaah> so...if i dont reboot, how do i restart x?
[12:13] <flaccid> its the same in this case
[12:13] <vbgunz> salaah: it's neutral, don't sweat it
[12:13] <salaah> yeah? but there is no restricted drivres section
[12:13] <flaccid> salaah: full restart of X, safe is log out to kdm login screen the select restart X from drop down
[12:13] <flaccid> the=then
[12:13] <vbgunz> salaah: it has to reboot and if not, all you really need to know is how to edit from the terminal to save your ass, sudo nano OR vim to re-edit in terminal
[12:13] <salaah> let me try
[12:13] <salaah> brb
[12:14] <salaah> waoh...
[12:14] <vbgunz> flaccid: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace isn't the same?
[12:14] <flaccid> vbgunz: no that sends kill signals
[12:14] <tmbg> well if he wants to run a new kernel he may want to reboot....
[12:14] <tmbg> ctrl+alt+bs isn't graceful.
[12:14] <flaccid> he asked how to restart X
[12:15] <flaccid> yep
[12:15] <vbgunz> flaccid: ahh, you're absolutely right
[12:15] <flaccid> just like tmbg says. its for emergencies when you can't logout of kde
[12:15] <vbgunz> both restart X just one kills it and everything else right?
[12:15] <neongrau> my "adept manager" refuses to install anything :(
[12:15] <tmbg> yes. it's the big fat freaking hammer version
[12:16] <flaccid> vbgunz: you want to close your kde session before restarting X, thus the logout
[12:16] <vbgunz> sometimes I log out and then at the logout screen do the c+a+b thing to restart X, this is cool or no?
[12:17] <flaccid> vbgunz: its ok because you havnt got a kde session and apps open - not logged in
[12:17] <vbgunz> I would imagine nothing wrong with that but I like surprises :)
[12:17] <tmbg> on feisty now. it seems to have b0rken flash :/
[12:17] <vbgunz> yeah, sometimes I do that :)
[12:17] <vbgunz> tmbg: really?
[12:17] <flaccid> if you are fixing a xorg.conf remotely its good to just restart kdm service after you save a new xorg.conf to test it
[12:17] <vbgunz> I saw something with flash earlier
[12:18] <flaccid> then you can check the log
[12:18] <vbgunz> I admit, I have to learn my logs
[12:18] <neongrau> can someone help me fixing the package manager?
[12:19] <ionus> why the win32 game are not run well with wine
[12:19] <neongrau> i just installed kubuntu a few hours ago and "adept" already died :(
[12:19] <flaccid> neongrau: whats the error
[12:19] <ionus> it is more slowly
[12:20] <flaccid> try using apt-get in konsole under sudo to find problem
[12:20] <vbgunz> flaccid: it looks like all my logs are in /var/log is this true?
[12:20] <ubuntu__> neongrau: my condolances i suggest using windows a proprietary os
[12:20] <flaccid> vbgunz: usually
[12:20] <ubuntu__> you can get the stripped down version for $3 bucks now
[12:20] <vbgunz> I have others in my home dir but most are in /var/log
[12:20] <ubuntu__> and it plays the most wonderfull games
[12:21] <neongrau> flaccid: i h ave the german error only, s.th. about changes can't be written because of problems while downloading
[12:21] <ionus> !modem
[12:21] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:21] <vbgunz> ubuntu__: why you trying to hex neongrau?
[12:21] <ionus> !siemens
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about siemens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <flaccid> neongrau: please pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in konsole. i'll read the german
[12:22] <neongrau> vbgunz: i already ignored that kiddie
[12:22] <madmike> time for me to get more ram and a new graphics card
[12:22] <vbgunz> gnight fellas!
[12:23] <neongrau> flaccid:  sudo apt-get update seemed to ran without error
[12:23] <ubuntu__> neongrau: my condolances i suggest using windows a proprietary os
[12:23] <flaccid> neongrau: what are you trying to do. install something or update?
[12:24] <neongrau> flaccid: last time it was trying to install some sun java bs
[12:24] <flaccid> neongrau: install it via cli with apt-get install packagename and pastebin the error if there is one
[12:25] <neongrau> flaccid: hmm  "sudo apt-get upgrade" really complains about "sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre"
[12:25] <flaccid> pastebin it
[12:26] <neongrau> flaccid: i'm follwoing some weird ncurses dialog on konsole to accept some sun license crap :S
[12:26] <flaccid> yep you have to do that
[12:26] <flaccid> because its non free
[12:26] <flaccid> !java
[12:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:27] <neongrau> i haven't mentioned today that i hate java ...grrr...
[12:27] <flaccid> haha
[12:28] <Last_Hero> I love Java :P
[12:30] <RawSewage> how do you turn on video preview in Feisty
[12:30] <ubuntu> Hellu Guys. Could someone tell me where I can activate the 3D things in Kubuntu 7.04 ?
[12:30] <neongrau> flaccid: yay, that manual "upgrade" on the konsole fixed it. thanks alot!
[12:30] <aleksanteri> ubuntu: join #ubuntu-effects
[12:31] <RawSewage> !video preview
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video preview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <flaccid> np neongrau
[12:34] <RawSewage> how do you turn on video preview in Feisty
[12:35] <_4strO> viedeo preview ?
[12:35] <RawSewage> yeah, icons
[12:35] <RawSewage> video thumbnails
[12:35] <_4strO> ha ok
[12:35] <ForgeAus> hey all
[12:36] <ForgeAus> um how do I change the type flag of a partition?
[12:36] <ForgeAus> without reformatting it?
[12:36] <freqmod> Hello, does anybody know how to do a kubuntu netinstall, I have managed to boot the ubuntu netinstaller, but I can't find the kubuntu netinstall image.
[12:36] <ForgeAus> qtparted/gparted let you reformat as a diff type, but not to change an existing type flag
[12:36] <ForgeAus> (currently its unknown)
[12:37] <ForgeAus> so I can't even convertfs not that I want to change the data on the drive anyway
[12:37] <neongrau> is there a way to get thunderbird 2 with adept or should i install that manually with the official package from mozilla.org ?
[12:37] <_4strO> RawSewage: options of konqueror
[12:37] <flaccid> ForgeAus: fdisk
[12:37] <evissecx> Wich messenger clients is there that supports send and recieve webcam?
[12:37] <ForgeAus> flaccid can yout alk me through it?
[12:37] <flaccid> evissecx: kopete does
[12:37] <flaccid> um
[12:37] <flaccid> let me see
[12:38] <adz21c> Hi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?
[12:38] <evissecx> mm, kopete, but it doesnt wotk well since uppgrade to feisty
[12:38] <evissecx> wrok
[12:38] <RawSewage> _4strO, seems to me I had to add something .  ALSA or something?
[12:38] <evissecx> work!
[12:38] <tony__> Neongrau: I manually installed from mozilla.org
[12:38] <_4strO> RawSewage: preview and meta informations (didn't know if ot's the exact words, i have the fr version)
[12:39] <flaccid> ForgeAus: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb1 or whatever
[12:39] <flaccid> then m to see commands
[12:39] <_4strO> RawSewage: perhaps but i didn' put anything special to have it :p
[12:39] <_4strO> RawSewage: you're on kubuntu ?
[12:39] <RawSewage> _4strO, ok, thx.  I'll check that out
[12:39] <RawSewage> yes
[12:39] <_4strO> RawSewage: you can read video ?
[12:40] <RawSewage> what
[12:40] <ForgeAus> ok doing that
[12:40] <_4strO> RawSewage: ca you play videos ?
[12:41] <_4strO> can*
[12:41] <ForgeAus> t   change a partition's system id
[12:41] <ForgeAus> does that mean change the type flag?
[12:41] <RawSewage> _4strO, yes
[12:42] <flaccid> im not sure what your situation is and what you need to do
[12:43] <ForgeAus> flaccid I have an unknown partition that I need to tell windows that its a vfat (fat32) drive
[12:43] <ForgeAus> where an XP install is located
[12:43] <flaccid> ok
[12:43] <flaccid> type l
[12:43] <ForgeAus> I'm not entirely certain it will work
[12:43] <ForgeAus> yeah c is the one
[12:43] <ForgeAus> I think
[12:43] <adz21c_> Hi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?
[12:43] <ForgeAus> c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[12:44] <ForgeAus> you were right about the drive it hust happened to be /dev/hdb1 in this case (so I guess your psychic :) hehe)
[12:44] <flaccid> hehe
[12:44] <flaccid> yeah so i guess if you are confident
[12:44] <flaccid> change it it with t
[12:44] <flaccid> and then write then quit
[12:44] <ForgeAus> ok well it can't do any worse than being an unusable disk right?
[12:44] <flaccid> then pray?
[12:44] <ForgeAus> hehe
[12:44] <ForgeAus> already doing that :)
[12:44] <flaccid> ok
[12:45] <flaccid> you can also run fsck on it
[12:45] <RawSewage> _4strO, I think I found the answer.  I have to install libarts1-xine
[12:46] <_4strO> RawSewage:  ok :)
[12:46] <_4strO> will try
[12:46] <ionus> how i can send file with gaim
[12:46] <ionus> how i can send file with gaim
[12:46] <flaccid> ForgeAus: hope this disk is unmounted
[12:46] <flaccid> it probably should be. you probably can't mount it anyway atm?
[12:46] <_4strO> it isn't gaim no mode
[12:46] <_4strO> it isn't gaim no more
[12:46] <ionus> how i can send file with gaim please help
[12:46] <ForgeAus> um ... good point I should have checked that.. the change didn't go through
[12:46] <ForgeAus> (I think because gparted was still looking at it
[12:47] <flaccid> true
[12:47] <flaccid> ionus: don't repeat
[12:47] <aleksanteri> !repeat | ionus
[12:47] <ubotu> ionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:47] <ForgeAus> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[12:47] <ForgeAus> The kernel still uses the old table.
[12:48] <ionus> with wich program i can send file on inthernet
[12:48] <ForgeAus> its not mounted
[12:48] <ionus> please help
[12:48] <ForgeAus> umount doesn't work with it anyway
[12:48] <ForgeAus> says it isn't mounted
[12:48] <flaccid> ionus: try kopete if you can't work gaim out
[12:48] <ionus> !send file
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about send file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <ForgeAus> (and gparted is closed this time)
[12:48] <_4strO> ionus: by mail ?
[12:48] <ionus> no direct send
[12:48] <ionus> ?
[12:49] <ForgeAus> so if I reboot will it update the partition table?
[12:49] <_4strO> irc
[12:49] <ForgeAus> or should it have gone through straight away?
[12:50] <JohnFlux> Has anyone heard of cisco routing client routing _all_ traffic and preventing you from accessing the local network?
[12:50] <ForgeAus> oh well rebooting anyway... bbl
[12:50] <ionus> why in gaim i dont see all contacts
[12:50] <JohnFlux> There's an option to route local traffic trough the lan, but it's disabled (bad policy on the vpn server maybe?)
[12:50] <adz21c_> ionus: do you mean u can't see offline contacts?
[12:51] <ionus> no all
[12:51] <Zeddy> ionus: you tried kopete ?
[12:51] <ionus> yes
[12:51] <ionus> but i dont see al coontacts
[12:51] <Zeddy> *shrugs* i see all mine.. so no idea sorry (i use kopete) :?
[12:52] <adz21c_> ditto
[12:52] <ionus> and i cant to send the file to yahoo mesenger on win
[12:52] <adz21c_> works for me on kopete
[12:53] <flaccid> could be firewall
[12:56] <ionus> !x server
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <ionus> what is x server
[12:56] <ionus> ?
[12:57] <ionus> i can install video driver becose i runing an x server
[12:57] <kraut> moin
[12:58] <Zeddy> ionus: i'm not sure what your problem is.. you cant install or can?
[12:58] <adz21c_> ionus: http://www.bellevuelinux.org/x_server.html <- x server definition
[12:58] <ionus> i cant
[12:58] <Zeddy> what driver are you trying to install?
[12:58] <Zeddy> nvidia? or ati?
[12:58] <ionus> nvidia
[12:59] <ionus> from www.nvidia.com
[12:59] <Zeddy> sudo apt-get install nvidia
[12:59] <_4strO> ...
[12:59] <flaccid> or
[12:59] <flaccid> !nvidia
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <Zeddy> even better :P
[12:59] <ionus> but i want to install from www.nvidia.com
[12:59] <flaccid> ok
[01:00] <ionus> special for my graphic gard
[01:00] <flaccid> np
[01:00] <cox377> os there such a thing as a gui for setting up / config samba for users etc?
[01:00] <cox377> is there such a thing as a gui for setting up / config samba for users etc?
[01:00] <flaccid> cox377: a good one in kcontrol
[01:00] <ionus> :(
[01:00] <_4strO> cox377: in your system settings
[01:01] <Zeddy> ionus: is there a linux driver from nvidia?
[01:01] <ionus> yes
[01:01] <cox377> flaccid: not installed i shall have a look
[01:01] <Zeddy> what format does it come down as? a .deb? or .tar.gz
[01:01] <ju_> c
[01:01] <ionus> ii have instaled driver but games dont run well
[01:02] <Zeddy> what games :?
[01:02] <ionus> .run
[01:02] <ionus> warcraft
[01:02] <ionus> .run
[01:02] <Zeddy> no idea sorry.. dont play games myself.. maybe someone else can help...
[01:03] <cox377> flaccid: ok is installed : P, whats the gui called?
[01:03] <ionus> noo tell me hhow to install driver with run estension
[01:03] <ionus> ?
[01:03] <_4strO> cox377: kcontrol
[01:03] <ionus> zeddy !
[01:03] <stacja5> hello:-)
[01:03] <ubuntu_> how do i know if I have updated to feisty fawn?
[01:04] <ubuntu_> what should I loock for?
[01:04] <_4strO> ubuntu_: type : lsb_release -a in a console
[01:04] <adz21c_> ionus: the driver you will be trying to install should be available via a .deb
[01:04] <flaccid> if you go to nvidia.com - follow their documentation. rtfm.
[01:04] <ionus> it is identic from nvidia?
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Release:        7.04
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Codename:       feisty
[01:05] <adz21c_> ionus: yes
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Is that feisty fawn?
[01:05] <ionus> ok
[01:05] <flaccid> !pastebin > ubuntu_
[01:05] <_4strO> ubuntu_: you see no, it's dapper !
[01:05] <ionus> thx
[01:05] <Zeddy> lol
[01:05] <ubuntu_> It is?
[01:05] <_4strO> ...
[01:05] <aleksanteri> ubuntu_: :P
[01:05] <ubuntu_> I thought I had edgy?
[01:05] <aleksanteri> ubuntu_: can't you see it there? Codename: feisty
[01:05] <aleksanteri> :P
[01:06] <ubuntu_> Oh
[01:06] <adz21c_> ionus: install nvidia-glx, its not the latest driver available from nvidia but it should work fine
[01:06] <ubuntu_> lol
[01:06] <_4strO> ...
[01:06] <ubuntu_> what torrent program is good?
[01:06] <Zeddy> ionus: from memory to run a .run all you need to do is ./(filename) ... (as far as i recall)
[01:06] <_4strO> ubuntu_:  ktorrent
[01:06] <flaccid> !info azureus > ubuntu_
[01:06] <Zeddy> ktorrent is sweet
[01:06] <_4strO> Zeddy: right
 is not good for games
[01:06] <adz21c_> ionus: all you will have to do then is go to "System settings" and select "Monitor & Display" then choose to use the proprietry driver
[01:07] <ionus> wait
[01:07] <_4strO> ionus: for windows game you should have a look on cedega
[01:07] <ionus> what
[01:07] <Jacko2007> hello?
[01:07] <_4strO> !cedega
[01:07] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:07] <adz21c_> ionus: it is, i am using the ones from deb, not that exact same one as i just recommended but I am using cedega and q4 and doom 3 and all is happy
[01:07] <ionus> ok
[01:08] <Jacko2007> Can anyone help me wiyh a wireless internet problem?
[01:08] <ubuntu_> I can help somebody with a wireless network problem!
[01:08] <ionus> in win32 warcraft run verry well but in kubuntu is more slowly
[01:08] <_4strO> !ask | Jacko2007
[01:08] <ubotu> Jacko2007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:08] <adz21c_> ionus: probably cos its not made for linux
[01:09] <ionus> ufff
[01:09] <ubuntu_> what games that is exspencive is made for linux?
[01:09] <ionus> i new in linux but i like
[01:09] <ubuntu_> Yeah, linux rules!
[01:10] <Jacko2007> I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip
[01:10] <Jacko2007> any ideas?
[01:10] <adz21c_> ubuntu_: quake 4, doom 3, neverwinter nights 1 & 2 and various ports like X2: Threat work native
[01:10] <ForgeAus> flaccid you there?
[01:10] <ForgeAus> still more issues
[01:10] <ionus> wich kinux is more coplcated ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:10] <ubuntu_> Do you have the full comand to get a multiplayer first person shooter?
[01:10] <ForgeAus> the type flag didn't alter what qtparted reports
[01:11] <ForgeAus> qtparted still believes its unknown
[01:11] <flaccid> i don't know if i can help further
[01:11] <flaccid> fsck
[01:11] <adz21c_> ionus: they are the same, just a different desktop enviroment, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde installed by default instead of gnome
[01:11] <ForgeAus> worse than that the fdisk command shows 2 partitions that overlap
[01:11] <_4strO> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install openarena
[01:11] <ForgeAus> but it shows 4 partitions in total
[01:11] <ForgeAus> in qtparted theres only 2
[01:11] <icecruncher> just installed feisty. thanks to the deelopment team for doing such a great job!!
[01:11] <ionus> and waht is diferente betw. KDE asn gnome
[01:12] <ubuntu_> Ho makes kubuntu?
[01:12] <Jacko2007> I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip anyone?
[01:12] <ubuntu_> Gnome looks like shit, kde is eye candy, thats my opinion!
[01:13] <ionus> and who needs more resurse?
[01:13] <adz21c_> ionus: my opinion is same as ubuntu_ but some people like a couple of my friends prefer to gnome look, it has the same purpose as KDE just goes about it different in places
[01:13] <ionus> and who needs more pc resurse?
[01:14] <ubuntu_> Not me!
[01:14] <Jacko2007> someone help me!
[01:14] <ubuntu_> with what?
[01:14] <Jacko2007> I have been trying to connect to the internet with my Amilo Pro 2010 which I could do wihout problems in Edgy Eft but in the ew version it seems to fail giving me a 169.... ip anyone?
[01:14] <Jacko2007> how do I get it to connect?
[01:15] <ubuntu_> write in your iop manually?
[01:15] <ubuntu_> ip*
[01:15] <zaphed> hi
[01:15] <Jacko2007> it still doesn't do it
[01:15] <ubuntu_> In ktorrent, would it download faster if it uploads faser?
[01:15] <ForgeAus> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[01:15] <ForgeAus> Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191.
[01:15] <ForgeAus> whats 191 about?
[01:15] <Jacko2007> no it would download at the same speed
[01:15] <Zeddy> Jacko2007: have you tried to manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:16] <Jacko2007> no
[01:16] <ubuntu_> So the share ratio doesn't matter?
[01:16] <Jacko2007> no
[01:16] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:16] <Jacko2007> how do I edt the interfaces
[01:16] <ubuntu_> But it is nice to share dough?
[01:16] <ju_> Hi everyone, I've got a huge problem:  I just upgraded from edgy to festy and my touchpad does not work anymore even when I had the relevant sections in the xorg.conf file. Here is the error shown in the xorg.log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17006/. Furthermore, when I type cat /proc/bus/input/devices there is no entry looking like my touchpad http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17009/.
[01:16] <Zeddy> try that, and assign it an ip.. as an example (mine)
[01:16] <Zeddy> iface eth0 inet static
[01:16] <Zeddy> address 10.0.0.1
[01:16] <Zeddy> netmask 255.0.0.0
[01:16] <Zeddy> gateway 10.0.0.138
[01:17] <Zeddy> open a terminal and do a sudo (editor of your choice I use pico) /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <Jacko2007> what's with your gateway 10.0.0.138
[01:18] <Jacko2007> mine is 192.#.#.# ect
[01:18] <ubuntu_> How do I decide withc speakers the sound comes out off?
[01:18] <JohnBoy> hello, just upgraded to fiesty and now no wireless, I manage to conenct and be issued an IP but no internet
[01:18] <Zeddy> Jacko2007:  yep.. just change to suit (i use the 10.0.0.# range
[01:18] <ubuntu_> Is it possibole to decide witch speakers the sound comes out off?
[01:19] <flaccid> ubuntu_: do not repeat
[01:19] <ubuntu_> But is it?
[01:19] <aleksanteri> !repeat | ubuntu_
[01:19] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:19] <Jacko2007> I thought you could di it in kmix
[01:19] <ubuntu_> !patiense
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiense - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <flaccid> !patience
[01:19] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:20] <Jacko2007> I will be back soon let me just test my internet
[01:20] <opa-manni> hallo @ all
[01:20] <_4strO> hi
[01:20] <Zeddy> anyone come accross this error before......
[01:20] <Zeddy> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[01:20] <Zeddy>  EOF after field name `'
[01:20] <Zeddy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:20] <ubuntu_> What good sound managers is it for kubuntu?
[01:20] <Jacko2007> ok
[01:21] <_4strO> kmix
[01:21] <_4strO> Zeddy: never seen before
[01:22] <adz21c_> ju_: tried this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499014 I not really read it but someone seems to think they got a solution for something that produces the same error, not sure if it helps
[01:22] <ubuntu_> what good network manager?
[01:22] <Zeddy> *nods* got me beat.... happened right after my dist-upgrade cant use apt anymore.. might try and remove and reinstall
[01:22] <onsight> Hi Luser! I have some processes named "udevd" which are  driving my cpu up to more than 90%. What is "udevd" and how can I resolve this Problem? Does somebody know? Thanks!
[01:22] <flaccid> !knetworkmanager
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <flaccid> !info knetworkmanager
[01:22] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[01:22] <_4strO> Zeddy: what did you do to have this message ?
[01:22] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:23] <_4strO> Zeddy: ok
[01:23] <Zeddy> apt-get (anything) and it fails with that message :(
[01:23] <_4strO> can you paste the file ?
[01:23] <_4strO> /var/lib/dpkg/available
[01:23] <_4strO> the beginnig plz
[01:23] <Zeddy> just looked at it.. looks corrupted i have a backup.. will check that now
[01:24] <adz21c_> Hi, I can't seem to get my logitech quickcam pro 4000 working under kopete, gqcam works, amsn works, mplayer can view it, but not kopete, anyone have any suggestions?
[01:24] <Jacko2007> I still cannot get it to connect
[01:24] <_4strO> adz21c_: dont have
[01:25] <nirmal> hi all
[01:25] <Jacko2007> does copete support webcam?
[01:26] <ubuntu> How do i install flashplayer 9 for konqueror?
[01:26] <ubuntu_> kopete supports webcam!
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu you don't
[01:26] <Zeddy> _4strO: BINGO!! corrupted file.... used back up.. and apt is back!! :P
[01:26] <flaccid> !flash
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:26] <ubuntu_> ubuntu I think you have to use firefox!
[01:26] <ubuntu> damn really???
[01:26] <adz21c_> no
[01:26] <_4strO> Zeddy: think you could just remove this file (or rename it)
[01:26] <adz21c_> it can work in konqueror
[01:26] <ubuntu> konqueror doesnt do flash
[01:26] <ubuntu> how?
[01:26] <Zeddy> ahh
[01:27] <flaccid> by reading
[01:27] <ubuntu> i am trying to install it with tar it tells me i need mozilla firefox or seamonkey
[01:27] <ubuntu> i came here because i dont know how
[01:27] <ubuntu_> ntu told you so!
[01:27] <_4strO> Zeddy: not sure, but seems to not be necessary
[01:27] <Cugel>  I have a question: dmesg shows me (feisty) lots of errors of the type: "atl1: hw csum wrong" -- google brings up just two hits, none relevant. Anyone any idea?
[01:27] <ubuntu> flaccid reading what?
[01:27] <ubuntu_> I can't see anything diffrent in feisty fawn, except a hp thingi!
[01:27] <adz21c_> ubuntu: i think he means the above links have a tutorial possibly
[01:27] <Zeddy> ahh cool...  ill just delete it and see what happens.. (always have the backip_)
[01:27] <Zeddy> *backup*
[01:28] <ubuntu> ok Zeddy you are a flaccid mind reader interesting
[01:28] <ubuntu> flaccid thanks but i dont know what to read
[01:28] <Zeddy> lol.. that was for _4strO :P
[01:28] <ubuntu> could you be more specific please
[01:28] <flaccid> install the flash package
[01:29] <ubuntu> flaccid: thats what i am trying it wont let me
[01:29] <ubuntu> it tells me i need mozilla or firefox or seamonkey
[01:29] <adz21c_> ubuntu: not the tar, i think he means theres a deb
[01:29] <ubuntu> i am talking about konqueror
[01:30] <flaccid> is flash installed?
[01:30] <ubuntu> what is a deb?
[01:30] <ubuntu> nope
[01:30] <ubuntu_> a debian package
[01:30] <_4strO> Zeddy: there is the list of all package you have installed on the system i think
[01:30] <Jacko2007> has anyone else got wireless problems?
[01:30] <ubuntu> i am using kubuntu
[01:30] <adz21c_> ubuntu: look up on debian package management and things will become more clear
[01:30] <ubuntu> this is confusing
[01:30] <icecruncher> _4strO: dpgk -l
[01:30] <ubuntu> me
[01:31] <flaccid> use sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:31] <flaccid> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:31] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:31] <ubuntu> thanks flaccid
[01:31] <_4strO> icecruncher: yep i know
[01:31] <flaccid> make sure multiverse is enabled
[01:32] <Jacko2007> I have noticed that yesterday when I right click on thet isn't network icon it told me I could connect o my router today i
[01:32] <ju_> adz21c: can you tell me what am I suppose to do with /sbin/rmmod psmouse; /sbin/modprobe -v psmouse ?
[01:32] <ju_> adz21c: it's in the last post
[01:32] <flaccid> ubuntu: http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[01:32] <adz21c_> ju_: hold on i have a look, like i said i didn't read it and don't use synaptic pad so I see what I can figure out :-)
[01:33] <Kubuntu> What can NOT be done in kubuntu?
[01:33] <ju_> adz21c: thanks :)
[01:33] <Jacko2007> BRB gonna restart
[01:33] <ubuntu> flaccid konqueror still doesnt allow me to view flash
[01:33] <ubuntu> :/
[01:34] <flaccid> did you read my link?
[01:34] <ubuntu> falsh player is installed
[01:34] <Kubuntu> Where do I register to get my own nick and colorS?
[01:34] <flaccid> In the menu, select "Settings -> Configure Konqueror". Click "Plugins" (the last item in the icon menu the the left". Click on the button "Scan for new Plugins".
[01:34] <_4strO> Zeddy: i have tried, rename the file to available.bak and then sudo apt-get update --> it has create a new one
[01:34] <_4strO> !register | kubuntu
[01:34] <ubotu> kubuntu: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:34] <Zeddy> _4strO: yep just seen that myself... looks like all i had to do was delete it..  :D  thanks for the help onn that one..
[01:35] <_4strO> Zeddy: then it's better to delete it otherwise put an older version
[01:35] <Zeddy> aye.. looks like it..
[01:36] <_4strO> sure it's a list off all your package
[01:36] <_4strO> didn't know what he do if the list is bad
[01:36] <adz21c_> ju_: basically during boot up u need that "code" to be run in order for it to work, hold on I find out what file u need to modify etc
[01:37] <ju_> adz21c_: thanks :)
[01:38] <_4strO> !upgrade
[01:38] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:38] <Jacko2007> Still no wirelss internet
[01:38] <Midspeed> hi everybody i would like to know how it went to some people who have upgraded to the latest version of kubuntu?
[01:38] <adz21c_> ju_: for now run that line of code in console and see what happens
[01:39] <Jacko2007> it's gone ok for me so far apart from my WiFi
[01:39] <icecruncher_> how the heck do you ghost your nick?
[01:39] <Midspeed> ok, thats good
[01:39] <Jacko2007> are you thinking of upgrading
[01:39] <Midspeed> ha ha ha too late, im upgrading as we talk
[01:39] <adz21c_> ju_: you will have to sudo for it
[01:39] <Jacko2007> hehe
[01:39] <Midspeed> i installed debian on my laptop and i have kubuntu on my desktop
[01:40] <adz21c_> ju_: and also might have to shut down X as well
[01:40] <ju_> adz21c_: I did it and I've got : insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko (for the second command)
[01:40] <Jacko2007> I have xp on my desktop and kubuntu on my laptop
[01:40] <Jacko2007> anyone any other ideas of how to get my internet to work?
[01:40] <ju_> adz21c_: I did X :1 to test it, is it not enough ?
[01:40] <flaccid> Jacko2007: whats the situation
[01:40] <Midspeed> nice, my mother who has been using windows since the beggining, is starting to have thoughts of changing to linux ha ha ha
[01:41] <Jacko2007> I was using my Wifi on the previous versions of kubuntu with no problems
[01:41] <flaccid> which card and driver
[01:41] <Jacko2007> erm
[01:41] <Jacko2007> I don't know ;)
[01:41] <_4strO> Jacko2007: have you try to connect with an eth connection ?
[01:41] <flaccid> right
[01:41] <adz21c_> ju_: don't know :-) I would shutdown X either way to be safe I guess
[01:41] <Jacko2007> yes that's what I am using
[01:41] <makuseru> hi, i just downloaded a pretty big rar, and apparently i clicked "open with" instead of "save as" but i closed it when it opened, does it save it anywhere on my HD? in a temp folder or somthing?
[01:42] <truevox> May I trouble someone with a stupid question re: Xorg?
[01:42] <ju_> adz21c_: I just do ctrl alt backspace ?
[01:43] <adz21c_> ju_: i think that reboots X, you might have to ctrl+alt+f1, log in, then sudo init 3, then once entered commands, sudo init 5
[01:43] <truevox> What is the CLI command to configure Xorg?
[01:43] <ju_> adz21_c i'll try that
[01:43] <oliver_> who was helping m
[01:43] <truevox> I'm ashamed to say I've been googleing for about 20 minutes with no luck :(
[01:43] <adz21c_> truevox: in what way do u want to configure it?
[01:44] <flaccid> truevox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <Lattyware> Hey all, I have the nVidia drivers installed, and I wish to get beryl running. So far, I have beryl installed, but when I choose beryl as the WM it just reverts back.
[01:44] <makuseru> Lattyware: go to #beryl theyll help you
[01:44] <truevox> Ok, thank you flaccid. Adz21c: I need to remake it,  I think. That's what I had to do last time I had this problem.
[01:45] <adz21c_> truevox: then what flaccid said will do the trick :-)
[01:45] <ju_> adz1c_: init does not work on ubuntu
[01:45] <truevox> adz21c_: Awesome. TY Both.
[01:45] <adz21c_> ju_: try telinit?
[01:45] <oliver_> anyone?
[01:46] <ju_> adz21c_: neither
[01:46] <se7en> someone need some fun http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html
[01:46] <adz21c_> ju_: one mo
[01:46] <livingdaylight> hey, guys
[01:47] <livingdaylight> ... so i thought i heard that CNR was going to be part of Ubuntu as part of the new UBuntu /Linspire partnership. Anyone know what is going on there?
[01:47] <Kubuntu> OMFG, edgy can use dhcp, and automaticaly log in to a wireless network!
[01:47] <Kubuntu> feisty*
[01:48] <icecruncher> how can you autostart a program at login?
[01:49] <flaccid> !autostart
[01:49] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:49] <livingdaylight> i repeat: does anyone know about the CNR situation in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <_4str1> ok my wifi connexion work well on feisty :)
[01:50] <icecruncher> flaccid, a link as in new link to app right?
[01:50] <Last_Hero> sorry, I haven't heard much besides the partnership, livingdaylight
[01:50] <livingdaylight> Last_Hero, :s oh... well, never mind then ^^
[01:51] <livingdaylight> I was sure that Ubuntu was going to get CNR as part of the partnership/tradeoff
[01:51] <Last_Hero> I don't keep up with the news though, all I heard was from the Freespire newsletter
[01:51] <_4str1> flaccid: you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart <-- ln -s /usr/bin/... right ?
[01:51] <Last_Hero> and that was a while ago
[01:52] <makuseru> hi, i just downloaded a pretty big rar, and apparently i clicked "open with" instead of "save as" but i closed it when it opened, does it save it anywhere on my HD? in a temp folder or somthing?
[01:53] <mart81> hey, anyone knows what "assign accelerator" means in ktorrent?
[01:53] <flaccid> yeah its just symlinks in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:54] <adz21c> ju_: ok, 2 ways we can go about it then, u can either reboot into revcovery mode, log in, run the commands, then run 'sudo init 2' or 'sudo telinit 2' whichever works for u, or we can modify some boot up files and see what happens in a normal boot
[01:54] <mart81> flaccid: myeah, but i can't find it in ktorrent
[01:55] <mart81> flaccid: i try to translate the tool
[01:55] <ju_> adz21c: i'll try the first way : thanks
[01:55] <adz21c> ju_: ok
[01:57] <s17lans> ello
[01:58] <aceta> hi
[01:59] <^GOJKO^> Which ISO file is instalation on Kubuntu 7??
[01:59] <^GOJKO^> Alternate or desktop???
[01:59] <_4str1> !kubuntu feisty
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <_4str1> !kubuntu
[01:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:59] <^GOJKO^> !kde
[01:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[02:00] <_4str1> ^GOJKO^: ^GOJKO^ http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[02:01] <^GOJKO^> for instalation what I need to download Alternate or Desktop??
[02:01] <aceta> usually desktop
[02:01] <_4str1> desktop is fine
[02:01] <s17lans> try desktop
[02:02] <Impaque> i disagree. alternate is way more flexible, f.e. with desktop you couldn't pick xfs for a filesystem.
[02:02] <Impaque> moreover, the installations is more "jerky" with desktop, at least from my experience.
[02:02] <^GOJKO^> Does kubuntu have vpn??
[02:02] <Edulix> hi
[02:03] <adz21c> ^GOJKO^: it has kvpn if thats what your looking for
[02:03] <^GOJKO^> Do anyone know how to instal beryl on kubuntu?
[02:04] <flaccid> !beryl
[02:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:04] <flaccid> !vpn
[02:04] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:04] <flaccid> !info openvpn
[02:04] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.9-5 (feisty), package size 328 kB, installed size 988 kB
[02:04] <adz21c> ^GOJKO^: for me I just installed the package and added some options to my xorg for better performance from graphics card
[02:05] <^GOJKO^> I had problems with VPN
[02:05] <^GOJKO^> I changed 4 distrous
[02:05] <aceta> my kicker does not show up - does anyone know how to restore it?
[02:05] <lupul> did anyone here manage to play mohaa or equake on linux?
[02:05] <lupul> and if yes then how?
[02:05] <adz21c> aceta: Alt+F2, then put in kicker
[02:05] <aceta> tells me it isn't installed
[02:05] <Impaque> ^GOJKO^: what probs?
[02:06] <^GOJKO^> I couldnt connect
[02:06] <aceta> but apt tells me it is :-/
[02:06] <^GOJKO^> I tried
[02:06] <^GOJKO^> with Open Suse
[02:06] <^GOJKO^> kvpnc
[02:06] <^GOJKO^> it dont work :(
[02:07] <aceta> any way to reinstall kicker ?
[02:07] <Impaque> ^GOJKO^: well, although VPN is looking really strange until you learn some basics, after you do, it's really simple. f.e. openvpn usual config is no more than 6-7 lines. you should read up a bit on it. www.openvpn.net
[02:08] <^GOJKO^> I tried openvpn
[02:08] <^GOJKO^> but openvpn need some key's
[02:08] <^GOJKO^> but i didnt have this :/
[02:09] <Impaque> ^GOJKO^: well keys are a basic part of a VPN. you need to create them, openVPN provides scripts for that.
[02:09] <Impaque> ^GOJKO^: just RTM
[02:09] <^GOJKO^> I am begginer at linux
[02:09] <^GOJKO^> i dont know how to create this :(
[02:09] <adz21c> aceta: try 'apt-get --reinstall install kicker'
[02:10] <adz21c> aceta of course sudo or kdesu or whatever u can on the front of that, i recommend doing it in konsole so u can see the output
[02:11] <aceta> thanks
[02:12] <aceta> the problem now is that i dont have an internet connection and cant start it with knetworkmanger..
[02:13] <adz21c> aceta: I assume you got kicker back now then? also what you mean you can't start it, what exactly happens?
[02:13] <aceta> no, apt wants to download kicker from the server
[02:13] <adz21c> aceta: oh i get ya lol, ok hold
[02:14] <aceta> :)
[02:15] <adz21c> aceta: u can run console i assume?
[02:15] <aceta> yeah, it's running
[02:16] <adz21c> aceta: look up 'man apt-cdrom' I think that allows you to add a CD as a repository, so you should be able to use you feisty/edgy/dapper/whatever disk as your repo for the kick deb
[02:17] <aceta> thanks :)
[02:17] <gcee> is wiki.kubuntu.com down?
[02:22] <si^> Hey, maybe someone is able to help me. I tried few times to install ATI drivers @ [ kubuntu 6.10, Radeon 9100 ] . When i use aticonfig --initial + reboot my screen went black and after few sec i see console login prompt. Here is method + xorg logs/conf i used: http://tinyurl.com/269fa2 . Thnx for help.
[02:23] <canen> si^: have you tried envy?
[02:24] <damaltor> hello everybody... i have a question about the adept updater. after doing the normal update work, it told me that there ist a new version of kubuntu (feisty) and asked if i wanted to update directly. is there a risk of loosing my data? or is this a secure update? what will be kept (settings, files,...) and what will be destroyed?
[02:24] <si^> canen: no?
[02:24] <canen> si^: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:25] <canen> should make things easier
[02:25] <canen> damaltor: from what i've been hearing people are getting mixed results
[02:25] <si^> thnx canen :) i'll try this method
[02:25] <canen> in general it should be fine
[02:25] <canen> si^: np
[02:26] <damaltor> well... i hope that im general...
[02:26] <damaltor> =)
[02:26] <canen> :)
[02:26] <damaltor> i did some system work like installing nvidia drivers, using 686 kernel insterad of generic, and so on. could that be a problem?
[02:27] <damaltor> most programs i use are from the package manager, but some are selfmade /self compiled. is that a risk?
[02:27] <adz21c> damaltor: if your running edgy you should find the 686 stuff are dummy packages and your using generic anyway
[02:28] <damaltor> 0o
[02:28] <damaltor> o.. well... never noticed that
[02:28] <damaltor> ?=)
[02:28] <adz21c> they decided to drop the specific arch stuff cos there wasn't enough of a performance improvement to warrant all the extra effort
[02:28] <adz21c> i think thats the reasoning anyway
[02:28] <damaltor> lol...
[02:28] <damaltor> ok
[02:29] <adz21c> so those packages are there to help with the transition :-)
[02:29] <damaltor> what about the drivers and self-compiled tools? will they be problematic?
[02:30] <adz21c> drivers could be an issue, for example if u have a manual install of the nvidia driver that will probably stop working, but if ur using the ubuntu deb of the driver you should be ok
[02:30] <aceta> adz21c: umm, how do i tell apt to use the cd now?
[02:30] <aceta> didn't see that in the manpages :p
[02:30] <damaltor> put the cd into the drive, and add the source into the sources.list
[02:31] <adz21c> he wants to know how to override the online sources
[02:31] <damaltor> im using the deb...
[02:31] <damaltor> oh wel..
[02:31] <hideman> hello
[02:31] <damaltor> umm..
[02:31] <damaltor> why?
[02:31] <adz21c> he has no internet
[02:31] <aceta> because i dont have an internet connection atm
[02:31] <damaltor> why is he online then?
[02:31] <damaltor> =)
[02:31] <damaltor> no
[02:31] <damaltor> sr
[02:31] <damaltor> y
[02:31] <aceta> another pc ;)
[02:31] <adz21c> :P
[02:32] <damaltor> open the sources list
[02:32] <adz21c> i guess u could disable the online sources temp, that would guarantuee them not getting there
[02:32] <damaltor> und put a # in front of every line whis is an online repository
[02:32] <damaltor> do apt-get update
[02:32] <damaltor> and make ur installation
[02:32] <nirmal> nirmal-desktop 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:32] <nirmal> can u plz tell me the name of this distro, i have long back downloaded it
[02:32] <nirmal> it is the output of uname
[02:32] <nirmal> today i could install it to hdd
[02:32] <damaltor> after that, remove the #'s
[02:33] <damaltor> and do apt-get update agaien
[02:33] <adz21c> damaltor: for the self compiled ones, depends how good your dependencies were specified in the debs you made, if they lose dependencies it may remove or give u the option to or atleast stop the upgrade when it gets to them, then u can remove and compile against the new libs etc
[02:34] <adz21c> damaltor: after do the upgrade of course
[02:34] <aceta> thanks :)
[02:34] <damaltor> k..
[02:34] <damaltor> well
[02:34] <damaltor> im going to try now...
[02:34] <damaltor> cya later
[02:34] <adz21c> damaltor: of course this is all guess work :-P these are my assumptions, i dnt tend to dist-upgrade, i install from CD
[02:34] <damaltor> hopefully...
[02:34] <adz21c> damaltor: good luck
[02:35] <damaltor> well i just dont want ro have a completely new system... i just wanna upgrade
[02:35] <damaltor> =)
[02:35] <adz21c> :)
[02:36] <aceta> hrm, apt says reinstallation is not possible because it cant be dled... but the cdrom is in the sources.list and i updated apt-get :-/
[02:36] <adz21c> hmmm
[02:37] <robertugo> how can i turn on compiz in kubuntu 7.04?
[02:38] <aceta> perhaps i should simply reinstall kubuntu :p
[02:38] <adz21c> aceta i was thinking same thing :P
[02:38] <aceta> okay then ;)
[02:38] <aceta> but thanks for your help :)
[02:38] <adz21c> no problem
[02:39] <robertugo> i know i should turn on some options in configs but i dont see it
[02:39] <adz21c> robertugo: should be a matter of installing compiz and its gui manager then using that to turn it on i would guess
[02:40] <robertugo> kk
[02:40] <Jacko2007> Ok I am going to fix my Wifi now
[02:40] <Jacko2007> any ideas?
[02:41] <Jacko2007> anybody here?
[02:42] <boom> #ubuntu-trivia
[02:42] <adz21c> whats ur problem?
 is my kubuntu version known by uname
[02:43] <adz21c> nirmal: 'lsb_release -a'
[02:43] <MinceR> well, congrats for feisty
[02:43] <Jacko2007> I have install Kubuntu Feisty Fawn and my Wifi ha stopped working
[02:43] <MinceR> since the upgrade, my machine won't even boot
[02:43] <Jacko2007> it's not displaying any nearby connections
[02:43] <MinceR> it turned the ide discs into scsi discs and surprisingly can't find them now
[02:44] <Jacko2007> my device is active and been found by kubuntu but it never connects and always gives out a 169 ip address
[02:44] <MinceR> why is it that every time i upgrade [k] ubuntu i have to spend a week hacking it to get it to work again?
[02:44] <Jacko2007> because you hacked into it before thee update it fixes what you hacked and then you have to rehack ot?
[02:45] <kalenedrael> Wipe your HD, start with a fresh install.
[02:45] <MinceR> i didn't hack it that deeply...
[02:45] <Jacko2007> lol
[02:45] <adz21c> Jacko2007: oh, well i guess I personally don't knwo then, i was hoping I might be able to guess some possibilities but i never used wireless in linux so i am stuck
[02:45] <MinceR> maybe i'll do that
[02:45] <MinceR> i'll try yet another distro and curse a lot when that fails too
[02:45] <kalenedrael> The new install cannot be allowed to know anything about the previous state of the system, or it will manage to fuck up.
[02:45] <adz21c> i always fresh install any linux distro personally
[02:46] <Jacko2007> my device is active and been found by kubuntu but it never connects and always gives out a 169 ip address
[02:47] <Jacko2007> stupid wifi
[02:47] <kalenedrael> I figured this out the hard way. After keeping configurations from install to install, I found that it just got worse and worse. Start over each time. :P
[02:47] <Filthpig> hi
[02:47] <Filthpig> I have a problem with k3b
[02:47] <kalenedrael> Do you now? :P
[02:47] <Filthpig> it claims I don't have libmad installed, but I do
[02:48] <kalenedrael> Where is it looking for libmad?
[02:48] <Filthpig> on startup
[02:48] <Filthpig> heh
[02:48] <Filthpig> tells me I can't burn/convert mp3 files
[02:48] <ubuntu_> hi i'm having problems mounting my NTFS partition: I use; sudo mount -o unmask=000 /dev/sda5 /mnt, and get error; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5
[02:48] <ubuntu_> I'm in live cd*
[02:48] <si^> canen: still same problem, i see envy made same steps i did... effect is again black screen + fglrxinfo output: "Error: unable to open display :0"
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Filthpig: apt-cache search libmp3 k3b
[02:49] <Filthpig> no output, thoreauputic
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Filthpig: it's something like libmp3-k3b ( forget exactly)
[02:49] <Jacko2007> how do I manually add a (wireless) network
[02:50] <kalenedrael> 'umask', not 'unmask'
[02:50] <ubuntu_> ahh
[02:50] <thoreauputic> Filthpig:  libk3b2-mp3   <--that one
[02:50] <ubuntu_> thankyou!
[02:50] <Filthpig> thoreauputic: ah, found it through adept
[02:50] <si^> canen: maybe it has something to do with that i have connected TVOUT cable + tv? :(
[02:50] <thoreauputic> OK
[02:51] <Filthpig> thankies :)
[02:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:52] <koyo001> hello
[02:52] <canen> si^: only used envy once but i think there is a bug where you have to press Alt+F1 to get rid of the black screen
[02:52] <koyo001> does anyone know the command to restart add remove program
[02:52] <cysio> Hello , i installed kubuntu feisty, and my usb pendirve and extrenal harddisk doesn`t automatic monting (but with pmount working great) pls help
[02:53] <si^> canen: but look at logs... it does not find device :/ or something did u look into my logs? http://tinyurl.com/269fa2
[02:54] <adz21c> si^: just a guess but the aticonfig-screen doesn't define any resolutions
[02:54] <si^> canen: it's not just black screen it simply kick me to console and does not start X11
[02:54] <si^> adz21c: what does it mean? res is set to 1024x768x24
[02:54] <canen> si^: looking at the logs
[02:55] <cysio> sorry , fat32 moutning great , but not nitfs-3g extrenal drive :(
[02:56] <adz21c> si^: well the ending error says it has no useable configurations but there is a screen, so i take that as drivers ok but the configuration is bad, i would add "mode" to display under aticonfig-screen and put some valid resolutions
[02:56] <adz21c> just to see what happens
[02:57] <si^> adz21c: do u mean here: Section "Screen"
[02:57] <si^> 	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[02:57] <adz21c> yes
[02:57] <adz21c> un that is a sub section "display"
[02:57] <adz21c> under*
[02:57] <si^> aha add mode but when i'm kicked to console shouldn't it show fglrxinfo?
[02:58] <adz21c> i don't know i never done ATI under linux, its just something I noticed in the xorg.conf and the error complained of config so its a guess :-)
[02:58] <si^> adz21c: this is horror ;) ok give me a minute i'll try with mode
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:03] <BluesKaj> after booting into feisty, it boots to a prompt which tells me that apt isn't installed and this is the the funny part, quote "use apt-get install apt" to install apt because it's missing from your sytem .. I typed "exit" to get back to the boot menu but it then boots directly to the login page, and everything is normal ..strange behaviour . Any ideas how to fix it ?
[03:04] <snap> hi all
[03:04] <snap> NE1 care to help a noob
[03:05] <BluesKaj> snap, just ask , ppl will help if they can
[03:05] <ForgeAu> hey all :)
[03:06] <adz21c> BluesKaj: you tried installing the apt debs?
[03:06] <snap> ok blues but my questions are so basic i dont want to frustrate people
[03:06] <adz21c> snap just ask anyway no one cares if they are complex or basic we are just ere to help ... or be helped :P
[03:06] <Filthpig> where can I go to get help with baghira mac os x skin?
[03:06] <BluesKaj> adz21c, universe multivrese ?
[03:07] <BluesKaj> multiverse
[03:07] <si^> adz21c: canen: still same problem, i added: Modes    "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[03:07] <snap> like how the heck can i log as root .....ubuntu using this darn keyring thing.....never had an option to setup root
[03:08] <adz21c> snap: u have to setup a root password, but its not recommended you do so
[03:08] <canen> si^: does X work with the vesa drivers or the generic ati drivers?
[03:08] <snap> im trying to install winetools and the tarball method wants me to login as root
[03:09] <adz21c> use sudo
[03:09] <si^> now i'm @ ati driver and it's ok
[03:09] <si^> all works ok just i don't have acceleration/tvout at default drivers
[03:09] <adz21c> snap: 'sudo [command] ' allows you to run the commands
[03:09] <BluesKaj> adz21c, the thing is after I exit, everything is normal...it's an annoyance more than anything ...apt is installed btw
[03:09] <adz21c> snap: but for a gui then u want kdesu instead of sudo
[03:09] <Aurrius> Whats are the right firefox Version under the adept manager?
[03:10] <adz21c> BluesKaj: ah ok, well thats odd ... did u upgrade or do a fresh install?
[03:10] <BluesKaj> upgraded
[03:11] <si^> canen: now i'm at this one: Driver          "ati"       and it's ok just without TVOUT/3D ACCELERATION
[03:11] <adz21c> BluesKaj: you tried reinstalling the apt package(s)?
[03:11] <snap> > /Desktop$ sudo alien winetools-0.9-3jo.i386.rpm > Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package winetools: postinst prerm > Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[03:11] <snap> that what iui got trying to convert rpm to deb
[03:12] <adz21c> is there not a winetools deb?
[03:12] <snap> no they just have Tar and RPM files to d/l
[03:12] <canen> si^: don't know what to tell you off the top of my head, sorry. my x config is usually very simple
[03:12] <adz21c> snap: i mean in the repositories
[03:12] <si^> canen: maybe u can show me yours?
[03:13] <snap> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/index.html#download
[03:13] <adz21c> snap: try 'sudo apt-get install winetools'
[03:13] <snap> i couldnt find it listed in package manager
[03:14] <canen> si^: don't have ati at home. gimme a minute or two
[03:14] <snap> ok i'll give that a whirl
[03:14] <si^> adz21c: any idea? no change with Modes added to aticonfig-screen, still X11 not running
[03:14] <adz21c> si^: i try asking a friend if he ever came across the issue as he has done ati under linux, hold on i see if he is online
[03:15] <si^> adz21c: maybe i have to unplug TVOUT cable?
[03:15] <cathal> just upgrade today, my wireless no longer will enable in configuration, it enables for a split second and is disabled again. Any ideas? do i have to install the drivers again?
[03:15] <si^> adz21c: this is hell on earth :) ok thnx i'll wait
[03:15] <adz21c> si^: ok he's not lol and maybe, i really couldn't say i always been nvidia
[03:16] <snap> adz21c:
[03:16] <snap> Reading package lists... Done
[03:16] <snap> Building dependency tree
[03:16] <snap> Reading state information... Done
[03:16] <snap> E: Couldn't find package winetools
[03:16] <adz21c> snap: 1 moment i am looking :-)
[03:17] <snap> thanks for being so helpful i fully expected to get flame toasted
[03:17] <nixternal> !info winetools feisty
[03:17] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in feisty
[03:17] <nixternal> there are no winetools, at least in feisty
[03:17] <nixternal> !info winetools edgy
[03:18] <ubotu> Package winetools does not exist in edgy
[03:18] <snap> darn .....i have to get them in there to get Metarder 4 working
[03:18] <canen> si^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17040/
[03:19] <adz21c> snap: only thing i can think of is automatix
[03:19] <snap> wassat then?
[03:19] <adz21c> it set up various things for u that by default ubuntu doesn't
[03:19] <adz21c> www.getautomatix.com
[03:20] <flaccid> !automatix
[03:20] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:20] <adz21c> although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need
[03:20] <nixternal> snap: let me be the word of warning...never mind, thanks flaccid
[03:21] <adz21c> yea, automatix isn't the best thing in the world, but thats all i can think of
[03:21] <flaccid> huh
[03:21] <adz21c> apart from "although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need"
[03:21] <nixternal> you beat me to the "automatix sux" warning
[03:21] <flaccid> so?
[03:21] <nixternal> I forgot about the !bang for it though
[03:21] <nixternal> no no, I was being thankful you did that
[03:21] <flaccid> doesnt matter
[03:22] <snap> wow i love the auto install d/l link there that was easy
[03:23] <nixternal> oh nice, they turned that on before final I guess
[03:23] <adz21c> snap:what the system settings thing?
[03:23] <nixternal> last time I tried it didn't do anything but tell me I didn't have wine installed
[03:24] <snap> adz21c: the automatix
[03:24] <adz21c> oh ok
[03:24] <snap> so I might be able to use this ti get winetools on correct?
[03:25] <adz21c> snap: like nixternal said it can be quite dodgey in places
[03:25] <adz21c> snap: if it has wine stuff in there, but you tried the system settings thing i mentioned earlier first? if your running feisty of course
[03:26] <snap> i think i missed the system settings thing
[03:26] <adz21c> snap:  "although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need"
[03:27] <kblog> i upgraded to feisty yesterday. but now, it's irritating me wether i should use compiz or beryl...?
[03:27] <aradu> For what reason did Ubuntu use Gnome instead of KDE? Any particular reasons?
[03:27] <snap> ok ill try that before i break this install with automatix
[03:27] <kblog> aradu: this is just a question about taste.
[03:28] <flaccid> and licensing
[03:28] <danny500> hey guys and gurls :d
[03:28] <danny500> :D
[03:28] <danny500> sup flaccid
[03:28] <adz21c> kblog: i personally chose beryl just because I liked the beryl manager and on my 5 mins look over the compiz kde gui i wasn't impressed
[03:28] <danny500> ok I'm havin's a little problem with MPlayer
[03:28] <adz21c> kblog: but so post everwhere i read say compiz is more stable than beryl, its less of a hack job
[03:29] <kblog> aradu: kde and gnome have both their advantages and disadvantages like every other windowmanager too. i think that both window manager are about equal.
[03:29] <danny500> when I tell it to go into fullscreen mode the movie stays the same size and the window area gets bigger
[03:29] <zerak> !package
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <snap> i installed beryl but still running the gnome till i get a little further along
[03:30] <pollyo> Hello
[03:30] <aradu> kblog: I see. I agree, both have their advantages. I was just curious why they chose to use one of them.
[03:30] <danny500> yo pollyo :D
[03:30] <danny500> hey pollyo
[03:30] <danny500> you know anything about MPlayer?
[03:30] <pollyo> Anyone use evolution for e-mail with some type of virus scanner?
[03:30] <danny500> i do
[03:30] <adz21c> danny500: what problems you having?
[03:30] <pollyo> danny500: Not anything specifically.
[03:31] <pollyo> danny500: Are you using klammail?
[03:31] <danny500> MPlayer going into fullscreen, the windows gett's bigger but the movie stay's the same size
[03:31] <danny500> no
[03:31] <pollyo> danny500: I find it slow.  Takes 15 minutes to download 5 messages using klammail with evolution.
[03:31] <danny500> my viruse program is aegis
[03:31] <adz21c> danny500: you using cli mplayer or a gui frontend?
[03:31] <kblog> aradu: i just feel the way kde is made fits my needs more but im using gnome-apps too, tough.
[03:31] <zerak> what is the command prompt to install a package from a file ex. ~/file.deb ?
[03:31] <pollyo> danny500: Will that work with evolution and scan messages when you download them?
[03:31] <danny500> I use the gui MPlayer
[03:32] <danny500> I guess so
[03:32] <adz21c> zerak i think its dpkg --install file.deb
[03:32] <boubbin> how to enable dualmonitor support, i have two different mopnitors ?
[03:32] <zerak> thank you
[03:32] <danny500> it's been over 3 months since I've actually used evolution but I'll set it up again and tell you ok
[03:32] <adz21c> zerak: look at man dpkg if that doesn't work
[03:32] <aradu> kblog: Yeah. I like the way KDE is made more too, especially the object oriented base with C++, and Qt. To me, KDE would be the obvious choice.
[03:32] <boubbin> !dualmonitor
[03:32] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:33] <pollyo> danny500: Ok.  Let me know when you get a chance.  Thank you.
[03:33] <boubbin> !xinerama
[03:33] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:33] <kblog> aradu: fine. choose kde then but if you like to, you could install both to try both.
[03:33] <aradu> kblog: I have used both and I'm a KDE user. I was just curious why Ubuntu chose Gnome in the first place. ;)
[03:34] <danny500> your using evolution mail reader right pollyo?
[03:34] <pollyo> danny500: Yes. I use evolution.
[03:34] <danny500> ok one minute please
[03:34] <kblog> aradu: ah, that's a question that never has been answered properly.
[03:34] <pollyo> danny500:  I have it setup to pipe mail out to klammail to scan incoming messages for virus information.
[03:34] <aradu> alright
[03:35] <pollyo> Quite a few distubutions make use of the gnome desktop by default.  An article I read suggested it was more of a clean business type desktop.
[03:35] <kblog> aradu: mark shuttleworth choosed gnome but i guess that it was a merely a choice by accident or something like that.
[03:36] <aradu> pollyo: Yeah, I've noticed. But the fact that (imo) Qt is much neater to develop for and big companies choose to release apps in Qt (GoogleEarth and Opera?) would make KDE a more pouplar choice.
[03:37] <aradu> kblog: Ok, well it's great that the kubuntu project is running
[03:38] <kblog> aradu: well, you can't say it so. you could also give the argument that just that gnome's idea is quite different from that of MS windows, it would be better and easier for branding. but in the end, i think it is probably a choose because we are used to an gui like this.
[03:39] <danny500> pollyo, where do I find the viruse program setup in evolution again?
[03:39] <pollyo> danny500: As a filter.
[03:39] <ira> aradu just install kde
[03:39] <aradu> True, and Gnome can seem to be easier to use. I guess those are some of the reasons to ouse Gnome instead.
[03:39] <danny500> oh ok
[03:40] <aradu> ira: Uhm, I already use KDE.
[03:40] <dthacker> hello kubuntu'ers, how are the feisty installs going?
[03:40] <kblog> I think it's really a choice of what you prefer. i used to use fluxbox for a longer time but since it is easier to update, maintain etc. with kde rather than with fluxbox, i decided to change to kde. in other words, i was just too lazy ;)
[03:40] <ira> or use kubuntu
[03:40] <pollyo> danny500: You filter a message through a pipe to klammail and check the header for virus-found.  If it has the header then you put it in a folder for virus messages.
[03:40] <ira> why does my upgrade wizzard not load?
[03:40] <danny500> are you using linux?
[03:41] <aradu> ira: I wasn't looking for a DE, I was just trying to find out why Ubuntu chose Gnome in the first place.
[03:41] <pollyo> danny500: Is who using linux?
[03:41] <danny500> you
[03:41] <ira> it asks if i want to update
[03:41] <danny500> are you using linux?
[03:41] <pollyo> danny500: Yes.
[03:41] <kblog> danny500: to who are you talking to?
[03:41] <danny500> then why are you worrying about viruses?
[03:42] <danny500> Pollyo: then why are you worrying about viruses?
[03:42] <pollyo> danny500: The spread of viruses to my friends and family is my concern.
[03:42] <ira> wear a mask indoors
[03:42] <danny500> well don't they have viruse progs?
[03:42] <dthacker> danny500: we don't want to be carriers
[03:42] <pollyo> danny500: If I get a message that has a virus in it I do not want to unknowingly spread it to them.
[03:42] <danny500> pollyo: oh ok
[03:42] <LeFermion> how does change font color in kde panel?
[03:42] <danny500> pollyo: I see
[03:43] <compilerwriter> pollyo I use KlamAv for that very same purpose.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> pollyo, this isn't windows
[03:43] <BluesKaj> !virus
[03:43] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:43] <pollyo> compilerwriter: I use clamav and I have klammail setup for evolution it just seems so slow. (klammail)
[03:43] <pollyo> BluesKaj: I am not suggesting it is windows.
[03:43] <kblog> danny500: actually, im more and more getting worried about viruses although im using linux. i think that viruses are becoming a more and more danger angainst linux too because the spread of linux has extremly widen.
[03:44] <compilerwriter> My Klammail seems to working quite fine.
[03:44] <BluesKaj> read the blurb, pollyo
[03:44] <pollyo> BluesKaj: Just because the viruses may not take hold on my system does not mean that I should not take steps not to resend them to my friends and family as attachments.  In addition there does exist the possibility if I run an application in wine that a virus could take hold on my system.
[03:45] <compilerwriter> kblog Then there is the potential for dumb new linux user exploits as well.  The time for that is really ripe.
[03:45] <dthacker> BluesKaj: I use linux to protect my wife's window's office computers
[03:45] <BluesKaj> don'tr send attachments
[03:46] <kblog> compilerwriter: i think so, too.
[03:46] <pyr0> hi all, i just finished installing kubuntu feisty but i have a problem. before i installed i had to set the resolution for the installer via the logon screen (before i pressed install\run kubuntu) so my screen will work, otherwise the screen just closed the moment it started the x server. after installing, i have the same problem again, but this time i don't have a place to cange the...
[03:46] <pyr0> ...resolution. so, how do i force a 1280x1024 resolution to kubuntu 7.04?
[03:46] <pollyo> BluesKaj: Rather simplistic response.
[03:46] <BluesKaj> simplistic works
[03:46] <pollyo> BluesKaj: Especially when there are virus scanners that will handle most known windows viruses.
[03:46] <_4strO> pyr0: is it proposed in system settings ?
[03:46] <kblog> you also can see that the amount of viruses that are running on linux, has grown. there is no match with windows yet, of course. but we have to keep in mind that.
[03:47] <pyr0> _4strO: say that again?
[03:47] <dthacker> kblog: yes, we should not get complacent
[03:47] <pollyo> kblog: Where do you have information on viruses for linux?
[03:47] <_4strO> pyr0: go to K / system setting / mon,ito & display
[03:47] <kblog> just read ;)
[03:47] <danny500> total number of linux viruses, 4 lol
[03:48] <pollyo> kblog: Most things I have read dismiss the idea of linux viruses.  Though they do admit to some nasty programs and trojans.
[03:48] <danny500> total number of Windows viruses 89589347932456216295418922435675197459425459
[03:48] <pyr0> _4strO: i can't. the moment kubuntu starts, the screen turns black and shuts down. the way i fixed this with the livecd was to force the right resolution.
[03:48] <nirmal> you install rkhunter
[03:48] <danny500> I mean 3695864355893648964328956432565876487658639538765E5545325353253^4396543
[03:48] <danny500> lol
[03:49] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, i cant run the distribution upgrade utulity in kubuntu... it keeps telling me to free up space in the /boot directory.... but there is nothing that i can delete from there that i dont need... any suggestions?
[03:49] <kblog> danny500: thats right but stll its growing. but there are not only 4 viruses any more. there are some hundred, especially if you count these for apache too.
[03:49] <pollyo> pyr0: Have you tried to just switch to a text terminal after the screen goes black and log into a shell?
[03:49] <_4strO> pyr0: are you on the liveCD ?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> pollyo, yeah , I use AVG on the windows partition and wife's windows pc...the fact we all take precautions in windows is a given .
[03:50] <pyr0> _4strO: no i haven't. and i'm not in the livecd, should i log in?
[03:50] <pollyo> pyr0: I think it is CTRL-1 or ALT-CTRL-1 to get to the text shell.
[03:50] <pyr0> pollyo: ok, and what next? if i get into shell...
[03:50] <_4strO> pyr0: sorry but i dont understand, where are you now ?
[03:50] <si^> adz21c: canen: i tried to unplug TVOUT cable and it helped. but when KDE loaded at the end all hanged an i was able only to move around mouse [ not possible to run anything ] 
[03:50] <pyr0> _4strO: i'm in windows :)
[03:50] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[03:51] <danny500> pollyo: it will work but I haven't found the way you want to do it, I just had evolution send the messages to a folder then I have Aegis scan the folder
[03:51] <pollyo> BluesKaj: I also have the virus scanner in linux check my ntfs at times for viruses.
[03:51] <_4strO> pyr0: lol now i understand :p
[03:51] <danny500> that good?
[03:51] <pyr0> _4strO: i finished the install yesterday. i must say that on kubuntu 6.10 it didn't happen
[03:51] <pollyo> pyr0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <pollyo> is that correct anyone?
[03:51] <pollyo> is it xserver-xorg
[03:51] <_4strO> pyr0: boot on the liveCD  and come back here (highlight me)
[03:52] <pyr0> _4strO: alright. thank you both!
[03:52] <Ace2016> Hi all
[03:52] <BluesKaj> hi Ace2016
[03:53] <Ace2016> anyone get Corel Photo-Paint to work in ubuntu?
[03:53] <danny500> it will work but I haven't found the way you want to do it, I just had evolution send the messages to a folder then I have Aegis scan the folder > pollyo
[03:53] <Ace2016> http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=104
[03:53] <danny500> hi > danny500
[03:54] <danny500> danny500 > hi
[03:54] <danny500> hum
[03:54] <feldegast> hi
[03:54] <danny500> hi
[03:54] <danny500> #mplayer
[03:54] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHA they actually have a channel for that YES
[03:55] <snap> adz21c: where can i find the systemm settings?
[03:55] <danny500> Ace2016
[03:55] <Ace2016> yea?
[03:55] <danny500> whats your problem?
[03:55] <danny500> with gimp
[03:56] <Ace2016> too many windows
[03:56] <danny500> you can fix that eh
[03:56] <Ace2016> its too hard to work with, i have to keep alt+tabbing all the time
[03:56] <Ace2016> danny500: how?
[03:56] <danny500> Ace2016: you can have all the tools stuck into one window as far as I know
[03:56] <pyrooo> hi i'm back
[03:56] <pyrooo> in the livecd
[03:57] <_4strO> pyrooo: ok
[03:57] <_4strO> pyrooo: sudo fdisk -l | grep Linux
[03:57] <danny500> Ace2016: hold on I'm opening Gimp and seeing how to do it again
[03:57] <_4strO> pyrooo: (in a terminal)
[03:57] <pyrooo> 4strO:yeah i know :)
[03:58] <pyrooo> alright i know the drives already
[03:58] <_4strO> pyrooo: sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sd* /temp -t ext3
[03:59] <_4strO> pyrooo: replace he * by your
[03:59] <_4strO> +s
[03:59] <_4strO> pyrooo: ok ?
[03:59] <pyrooo> just did that. it says the mount point /temp does not exist
[04:00] <_4strO> pyrooo: you did : sudo mkdir temp ?
[04:00] <pyrooo> "sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /temp -t ext3"
[04:00] <pyrooo> sda3 is my linux ext3 drive
[04:01] <_4strO> lol sorry
[04:01] <pyrooo> sorry...?
[04:01] <_4strO> pyrooo: sudo mkdir temp && sudo mount /dev/sd3 temp -t ext3
[04:01] <_4strO> mmm
[04:01] <pyrooo> cannot create directory `temp': File exists
[04:02] <pyrooo> so i'll call it temp3?
[04:02] <_4strO> nop
[04:02] <_4strO> ls
[04:02] <pyrooo> ls?
[04:02] <_4strO> have you a dir named temp ?
[04:02] <pyrooo> yep
[04:02] <pyrooo> so how do i delete it? how do i use the ls command?
[04:03] <_4strO> rm -f tep
[04:03] <_4strO> rm -f temp
[04:03] <pyrooo> cannot create directory `temp': File exists
[04:03] <pyrooo>  cannot remove `temp': Is a directory
[04:03] <kinder112> does it work?
[04:03] <danny500> Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows
[04:03] <pyrooo> it says it's a dir. so it can't delete it
[04:03] <Impaque> pyrooo: rm -rf temp
[04:04] <_4strO> yes
[04:04] <Impaque> pyrooo: add -r
[04:04] <danny500> Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows
[04:05] <pollyo> Why remove the temp directory anyway?  Can't you just mount it to a different directory?
[04:05] <danny500> Ace2016: you there?
[04:05] <pollyo> /temp/Linuxpartion
[04:05] <pollyo> Makes no sense to just start removing directories.
[04:06] <pyrooo> ok its deleting
[04:06] <Ace2016> danny500: yea i'm here
[04:06] <pyrooo> ok its ok.
[04:06] <pyrooo> now what?
[04:06] <danny500> Ace2016: I have found a way to narrow down the windows to only 2 windows
[04:07] <Ace2016> danny500: how? screenshot?
[04:07] <_4strO> pyrooo: sudo mkdir linuxpart && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /linuxpart -t ext3
[04:07] <danny500> ok when you look at the tool bars you can click and drag them onto another window and then let go and they will merge
[04:07] <_4strO> if it didn't want, do : sudo mkdir linuxpart && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /linuxpart
[04:08] <pyrooo> worked
[04:08] <_4strO> ok
[04:08] <Ace2016> danny500: then what?
[04:08] <_4strO> now : sudo cp /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[04:09] <_4strO> and : kdesu kate /linuxpart/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:09] <pyrooo> ok
[04:09] <pyrooo> now what?
[04:09] <danny500> Ace2016: drag and drop the tool areas onto the main tool selection window on the bottum it will tab all the tools
[04:10] <danny500> then you will end up with two windows, the tool window and the work area
[04:10] <_4strO> pyrooo: go to the Section "Screen"
[04:10] <danny500> Ace2016: still want a screen shoot?
[04:10] <_4strO> here is the resolution proposedModes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[04:10] <Ace2016> danny500: nope it worked but i still want one big window for all the gimp stuff to be in though
[04:11] <orient> hello
[04:11] <Ace2016> hi
[04:11] <_4strO> pyrooo: the first is the default one
[04:11] <danny500> ok hold no
[04:11] <danny500> on*
[04:11] <_4strO> you have to modifiy all the lines with resolution
[04:11] <_4strO> pyrooo: did you understand what i mean ?
[04:11] <orient> stupid question: how do I set KDE to require double-click for opening an item (program/folder) ?
[04:12] <pyrooo> yes. i did that before, i deleted all the other resolutions and just kept 1280x1024
[04:12] <pyrooo> didnt' work
[04:12] <orient> I did it once for edgy, but I forgot
[04:12] <_4strO> pyrooo: can you past your file ?
[04:12] <_4strO> !paste | pyrooo
[04:12] <pollyo> !pastebin
[04:12] <pyrooo> paste?
[04:12] <ubotu> pyrooo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <pyrooo> yeah
[04:13] <aleksanteri> how can i install a kbfx theme?
[04:14] <pyrooo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17052/plain/
[04:14] <Ace2016> aleksanteri: have you installed kbfx?
[04:14] <boubbin> !dualhead
[04:14] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:14] <aleksanteri> uhm... no. i thought it came built-in :P
[04:14] <aleksanteri> !kbfx
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <aleksanteri> darn it
[04:14] <pyrooo> _4strO: do you see it?
[04:15] <aleksanteri> ok, downloaded it
[04:15] <pollyo> pyrooo: What type of video card do you have installed?
[04:15] <_4strO> pyrooo: yes
[04:15] <pyrooo> radeon x800 oro
[04:15] <pyrooo> pro*
[04:15] <orient> how do I set KDE to require double-click for opening an item (program/folder) ?
[04:15] <boubbin> !xinerama
[04:15] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:16] <pollyo> pyrooo: Is that ATI or Nvidia?
[04:16] <pyrooo> ATI
[04:16] <Ace2016> orient: its in the mouse options in kcontrol
[04:16] <aleksanteri> now how do i install a kbfx theme? :P
[04:16] <salaah> i really need help with my nvdia display
[04:16] <Ace2016> aleksanteri: have you installed kbfx?
[04:16] <orient> thank you
[04:16] <aleksanteri> Ace2016: just did
[04:17] <salaah> its showing a resolution of 640x480
[04:17] <Ace2016> aleksanteri: what version?
[04:17] <lupul> does anyone know a command to flush the cache?
[04:17] <lupul> on feity
[04:17] <aleksanteri> Ace2016: 0.4.9.1
[04:17] <salaah> im downloading a driver from nvidia right now...
[04:17] <pyrooo> _4strO? pollyo?
[04:17] <lupul> !flush
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <lupul> !cache
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <salaah> can someone help me install it
[04:18] <_4strO> pyrooo: just a sec ;)
[04:18] <pyrooo> ok 10x :)
[04:18] <Ace2016> then look in the menu > settings > kbfx configurator
[04:18] <Narada> hi guys; what gui would you recommend to install packages in kubuntu feisty; i mean if i don't want to use apt-get on command line
[04:18] <aleksanteri> Narada: synaptic
 although if ur running feisty, go to system settings, then advanced and click wine applications and it should install everything u need     Can someone point me to wwhere i can find this?
[04:18] <pollyo> salaah: Isn't the driver in the repositories?
[04:19] <aleksanteri> Narada: use apt on that :P
[04:19] <Ace2016> Narada: synaptic, its the best
[04:19] <danny500> Ace2016: you can only get down to 2 windows why do you want one window so badly?
[04:19] <boubbin> !twinview
[04:19] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:19] <Narada> aleksanteri: hehe; is that like gui in kde or gui in command line?
[04:20] <aleksanteri> iirc it's a gui
[04:20] <aleksanteri> darn it g2g
[04:20] <Ace2016> danny500: i work with lots of images at once, i only close them when i've finished with all of them, i'm making an icon set, and my task bar is full of just gimp stuff, and then it soon gets into one long annoying menu
[04:20] <_4strO> pyrooo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17054/
[04:21] <pescez> hi everyone
[04:21] <_4strO> pyrooo: its the file with some corrections
[04:21] <pyrooo> _4strO: i'm gonna try that!
[04:21] <pyrooo> thanks!
[04:21] <pescez> do you know how to setup boot position on the screen for cairo-clock at startup?
[04:21] <ira> so why wont my upgrade wizzard load?
[04:22] <Ace2016> _4strO: should get rid of the wacom stuff while your at it
[04:22] <_4strO> pyrooo: then come back even if it'sok
[04:22] <ira> askes me if i want to upgrade I say yes a bunch of time
[04:22] <danny500> Ace2016: well the way I told you you will only have a tool windows and the work area, are you wanting to have all the work areas in on window?
[04:22] <Narada> Ace2016: how does synaptic compare with adept package manager? you use that as well?
[04:22] <salaah> pollyo: i tried the driver in the repository, its not working
[04:22] <pyrooo> ok. thanks!
[04:22] <_4strO> Ace2016: if it's not needed yes but we never know ;)
[04:22] <ira> tells me it is about to close adapt and then nuttin
[04:23] <pescez> did somebody read my question? :P
[04:24] <ira> I did I have no answer
[04:24] <_4strO> pescez: yes but dont know what is cairo-clock ;)
[04:24] <pescez> eheh
[04:24] <_4strO> pescez: but look in your home in a hidden file
[04:24] <springball> maybe you neeed to be in cairo?
[04:24] <pescez> _4strO, it's a funny composite clock
[04:25] <springball> can any one tell me why I can update?
[04:25] <springball> can't
[04:25] <_4strO> springball: what's exacty the pb ?
[04:25] <_4strO> +l
[04:26] <springball> It asked me if I want to load the upgrade wizzard
[04:26] <springball> I say yes
[04:26] <springball> do all the questions
[04:26] <pescez> what a stupid issue... there's a .cairo-clockrc in home and first two arguments are x=-1 y=-1 .. columbus egg..
[04:26] <pescez> thank you _4strO
[04:26] <_4strO> ;)
[04:26] <springball> said it will close adapt and run
[04:26] <springball> but it dosent close adapt or run
[04:27] <danny500> how do I open my nvidia settings?
[04:27] <Ace2016> Narada: take a look, this is adept: http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adeptfq8.png   and this is synaptic: http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=synapticno6.png
[04:27] <pescez> nvidia-settings
[04:28] <_4strO> springball: ps -A | grep adept
[04:28] <danny500> yeah, how do I open it?
[04:28] <springball> any idea
[04:28] <springball>  5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier
[04:28] <springball>  6646 ?        00:00:07 adept_updater
[04:29] <danny500> nevermind
[04:29] <Ace2016> Narada: synaptic has better options, you can for example look at packages from just one repo, look at the just the updateable ones, and select certain ones to update, and its got a better search
[04:29] <_4strO> springball: and in your adept window nothing is moving ?
[04:29] <springball> adept nope
[04:29] <_4strO> did you try to close it ?
[04:29] <pescez> synaptics rocks against adept
[04:29] <springball> now i did same
[04:30] <_4strO> same ?
[04:30] <springball>  5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier
[04:30] <_4strO> springball: start adept
[04:30] <springball> ok
[04:31] <Ace2016> springball: thats the adept updater that sits in your system tray and tells you about updated stuff
[04:31] <Narada> Ace2016: wow thanks for the images; k i'll try synaptic
[04:31] <springball> restarted adap
[04:32] <springball> t
[04:32] <bobesponja> hey
[04:32] <Ace2016> hey
[04:32] <springball> t
[04:32] <springball> 5028 ?        00:00:11 adept_notifier
[04:32] <springball>  6850 ?        00:00:03 adept_manager
[04:32] <_4strO> springball: have you a new button or something new in adept ?
[04:33] <springball> not that i can see
[04:33] <Ace2016> springball: whats worng?
[04:33] <bobesponja> I can't click with mouse wheel after feisty upgrade
[04:33] <springball> update wizzard not working
[04:33] <Ace2016> bobesponja: you broke your mouse?
[04:33] <bobesponja> I can't use the middle click to open tabs or pasting text
[04:33] <bobesponja> Ace2016: it used to work with edgy but all of a sudden it doesn't
[04:33] <bobesponja> Ace2016: I can scroll though
[04:33] <Ace2016> springball:
[04:34] <_4strO> springball: what is update wizzard ?
[04:34] <springball> nw i get the update wizzard notica again
[04:34] <Ace2016> bobesponja: run konsole, and then the command xev, then middle click in the square
[04:34] <_4strO> springball: close adept
[04:34] <springball> "A new version of Kubuntu is avalable!
[04:34] <_4strO> springball:
[04:34] <_4strO> and then
[04:34] <_4strO> whats hap
[04:35] <_4strO> you can do the upgrade ?
[04:35] <springball> no thats the issue
[04:35] <bobesponja> Ace2016: i did
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> wizzard, spelled with two z's.  i think the update utility should have been called rincewind
[04:35] <springball> ;-)
[04:35] <Ace2016> bobesponja: does it show the click?
[04:35] <springball> my point
[04:35] <bobesponja> Ace2016: no it doesn't show the click
[04:36] <springball> when I close the adapt
[04:36] <springball> nuttin
[04:36] <Ace2016> bobesponja: try again with this command, its easier to see:   xev |grep button
[04:36] <springball> Daisuke? you think maybe I need Vines?
[04:36] <_4strO> springball: which version of kubuntu have ypi ?
[04:36] <_4strO> you ?
[04:36] <Ace2016> bobesponja: does it show mouse button 2 when you middle click? and do the other buttons show?
[04:37] <springball> 6.10
[04:37] <_4strO> !fesity
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> springball: i would actually go with nobby first
[04:37] <_4strO> !feisty
[04:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:37] <franz> what is the name of the application that manages the KDE toolbar ?
[04:38] <Ace2016> franz: what toolbar?
[04:38] <patrick_> I have a problem about the keyboard input when using the firefox....sometime the keyboard was halted !!!
[04:38] <franz> the bottom bar
[04:38] <springball> ubotu nice if it worked
[04:38] <franz> with menu and programs
[04:39] <Ace2016> patrick_: i've also had mouse and keyboard problems with feisty sometimes keys get stuck down for some reason and i had to modify xorg.conf to get the mouse buttons to work
[04:39] <Ace2016> franz: you mean kmenu? the one that comes up when you press Alt+F1?
[04:40] <bobesponja> Ace2016: the other buttons show, but not the middle one
[04:40] <franz> that one , thank  you Ace2016
[04:40] <patrick_> Ace2016....I have the keyboard problem...but I can use the keyboard to log-in before starting the x windw
[04:40] <Ace2016> bobesponja: run kdesu kwrite, then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:40] <bobesponja> Ace2016: it does show when I scroll though
[04:40] <_4strO> Ace2016: kate is better :p
[04:41] <Ace2016> _4strO: but we're only opening one file
[04:41] <bobesponja> Ace2016: ok it open
[04:42] <Ace2016> bobesponja: in the mouse section what is Option "Device"  and  Option  "Protocol" set to?
[04:42] <_4strO> Ace2016: never mind kate is powerfull :p
[04:42] <bobesponja> Ace2016: Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[04:42] <bobesponja> Ace2016: Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[04:43] <matrix> hi, is there a way to define the mount point where my usb disks are connected? best would of course be a graphical guided one.
[04:43] <bobesponja> Ace2016: I did try PS/2 and ExplorerPS/2 but it didn't help
[04:43] <Ace2016> bobesponja: i had problems with those settings, comment them out and  try  Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"  and      Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
[04:43] <Ace2016> it might be /dev/psaux, that might solve it
[04:44] <Ace2016> franz: you can use kmenuedit to edit it
[04:44] <bobesponja> Ace2016: ok, let me try
[04:45] <boubbin> how to set the bandwidth rate for a single application for example Adept ?
[04:45] <springball> ok give up on the update fo4r now
[04:45] <Ace2016> franz: you could also just use Alt+F2 and then type in the app you want to run, its a much faster way, like alt+f2 and then type konversation, or ~ which opens the file browser at your home dir
[04:46] <_4strO> !feisty | springball
[04:46] <ubotu> springball: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:46] <springball> doesnt work
[04:46] <springball> thats my point
[04:46] <springball> but a nice link!
[04:47] <_4strO> springball:  kdesktop -v
[04:47] <_4strO> version ?
[04:47] <springball> Qt: 3.3.6
[04:47] <springball> KDE: 3.5.6
[04:47] <springball> KDesktop: 3.5.6
[04:47] <bobesponja> Ace2016: nope, still not working :/
[04:47] <ronny> hi
[04:47] <Ace2016> hi
[04:48] <_4strO> springball: have you put http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main on your sources.list ?
[04:48] <pyrooo> hi again all
[04:48] <pyrooo> still doesn't work :|
[04:48] <springball> yes
[04:48] <_4strO> pyrooo: mmm
[04:48] <pyrooo> _4stro: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7568;sa=showPosts
[04:48] <si^> is this possible that fglrx has conflict with ALSA [hanging even with unplugged SoundBlaster live!]  ? :/
[04:49] <Ace2016> springball: so you've edited your sources.list with the updated repos?
[04:49] <springball> yes
[04:49] <pyrooo> the dude has the exact same specs as i do
[04:49] <jovan> are the nvidia drivers in ubuntu repo different from the original nvidia installer?
[04:49] <Ace2016> springball: do you have synaptic installed?
[04:49] <Ace2016> springball: you could just get it to do the update
[04:50] <bobesponja> Ace2016: any idea what's wrong with my middle click?
[04:50] <springball> yes
[04:50] <Narada> hmm synaptic is quite nice
[04:50] <_4strO> pyrooo: i will googling a little :p
[04:50] <springball> ok ace how so
[04:50] <pyrooo> _4strO: omg! thats me 2 years ago!! huh
[04:50] <pyrooo> omfg!! he he he :D
[04:51] <Ace2016> bobesponja: could be the mouse itself or could be the new xorg version or the config, have you tried another mouse? like a usb one or a ps2 one if your using a usb one now?
[04:51] <Ace2016> springball: well run kdesu synaptic and click mark all upgrades
[04:51] <bobesponja> Ace2016: I'm using a usb now
[04:51] <_4strO> pyrooo: your on the liveCD right ?
[04:51] <springball> ok will try thanks
[04:51] <kblog> is it possible to get remote control on a win xp client from a linux client? i do have some support for mi sis...
[04:52] <bobesponja> Ace2016: I only have one mouse :/
[04:52] <pyrooo> ye
[04:52] <pyrooo> yep
[04:52] <_4strO> kblog: putty
[04:53] <_4strO> !ssh | kblog
[04:53] <ubotu> kblog: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:53] <kblog> _4strO: putty is a name of a such software, i guess?
[04:53] <_4strO> ;)
[04:53] <kblog> ok, ill read about it. thanks.
[04:53] <pyrooo> i'm on the liveCD
[04:54] <jamesb_> Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release Unable to find expected entry  dosbox/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:54] <jamesb_> how do I upgrade to feisty without dosbox getting in the way?!
[04:54] <ayja> hey peopls! howto optimize kubuntu? it's so memory-hungry :\
[04:54] <jamesb_> "skip and continue" doesn't seem to be an option - sigh
[04:55] <pyrooo> what should i do?
[04:55] <Ace2016> kblog: you could try this, its a bit outdated, but the method hasn't changed much http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/VNC.html
[04:55] <Ace2016> pyrooo: whats wrong?
[04:55] <sylvisj> how would I go about setting up aiglx with kubuntu?
[04:55] <pyrooo> Ace2016: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6825.msg27126#msg27126
[04:57] <Ace2016> pyrooo: seems like a refresh rate and screen resolution problem
[04:57] <doubleshe> hello
[04:57] <doubleshe> everyone
[04:57] <pyrooo> ace2016: the screen resolution, maybe the refresh rate. how do i fix it?
[04:58] <Ace2016> pyrooo: you could have a look at the refresh rate and resolution the live cd is running and just copy that info over to your install
[04:58] <pyrooo> how do i do that?
[04:58] <facugaich> Hi, I can't access any website or connect to msn. Only thing I can connect to is IRC so far
[04:58] <Ace2016> facugaich: my guess is dns
[04:59] <Ace2016> facugaich: try ping google.com
[04:59] <pyrooo> ace2016: how do i do what you just said?
[04:59] <_4strO> pyrooo: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:59] <facugaich> Ace2016: PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:59] <Ace2016> pyrooo: well the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf of the live cd and mount the root partition of your install like _4strO said before and compare it to that one
[05:00] <Ace2016> facugaich: dns looks ok
[05:00] <Aurri> Hello, I've tried to get a w-lan connection under kubuntu but the config manager always loads until 28% and stops. the card is detected automatically by my system
[05:01] <facugaich> Ace2016: any other ideas?
[05:01] <Udi> .
[05:01] <Ace2016> facugaich: you tried going to the site in firefox? and konqueror?
[05:02] <facugaich> Ace2016: Konqueror only
[05:02] <Ace2016> facugaich: and did the pings return?
[05:04] <pyrooo> PC shutdown :| can anyone help me?
[05:04] <aleksanteri> back
[05:04] <Ace2016> pyrooo: what do you mean pc shutdown?
[05:04] <facugaich> Ace2016: I'm not sure what do you mean
[05:04] <aleksanteri> ok... how do i install a kbfx theme?
[05:04] <pyrooo> power failure. computer shutdown
[05:04] <Ace2016> facugaich: does it have lots of 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=123 ms#
[05:05] <Ace2016> does it show that as the output or something similar?
[05:05] <facugaich> Ace2016: oh, yes, yes
[05:05] <ubuntu_> hi, I'm in live cd, have mounted one ntfs partition @ /mnt - need to mount another but cant create a new mount point folder?
[05:05] <Ace2016> facugaich: so konqueror can't get to google.com?
[05:06] <pyrooo> ok. Ace, can you please help me?
[05:06] <facugaich> Ace2016: Nope, it says "can't connect to server" (or something like that my kubuntu is in Spanish). I can see the favicon though
[05:06] <pyrooo> i managed to make the resolution and frequency's okey in the LIveCD
[05:06] <pyrooo> how do i do that on my install?
[05:06] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: what you do is go into /mnt/ and make a new dir, then mount it to /mnt/newdir not mount it to /mnt/, just make a new dir called /mnt2 and install it to there
[05:07] <acetoxy> Hm, KNetworkManager doesnt list any wireless networks
[05:07] <Ace2016> pyrooo: so now you know the correct settings?
[05:07] <Ace2016> pyrooo: open konsole
[05:07] <pyrooo> yes
[05:07] <ubuntu_> but /mnt is currently my first mounted partiton?
[05:08] <pyrooo> ACE2016: i used the gui setup. from the "system settings"
[05:08] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: so? make another folder called /mnt2 and mount it there
[05:08] <acetoxy> Ah, now it does
[05:08] <ubuntu_> thanks
[05:08] <sylvisj> how would I add 915resolution to run at boot?
[05:08] <acetoxy> Had to switch to disconnected mode and then back to connected mode.
[05:09] <MidMark> I've installed vsftp but which username are allowed to enter into?
[05:09] <pyrooo> Ace: can you help me please?
[05:09] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: don't mount the same thing in 2 places, that could mess it up, just make mnt2 and mount the other partition you want there
[05:09] <Ace2016> pyrooo: do mkdir /temp
[05:09] <sylvisj> anyone?
[05:09] <pyrooo> did it
[05:09] <Ace2016> pyrooo: then mount /dev/hd(whatever you picked last time as the partition you had as /) /temp
[05:10] <ubuntu_> thanks, also, It seems I cant write to my ntfs, how do i?
[05:10] <pyrooo> ace: how do i know which one? i don't remember. i used a grep command, can you remind me which command it was?
[05:11] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: you cannot write to ntfs from linux, at least with the ubuntu cd, however knoppix may allow it, but it is dangerous and could mess up the partiton
[05:11] <Ace2016> pyrooo: i'll look it up
[05:12] <red22> i have kubuntu and just installed ubuntu-desktop. "startx" now boots gnome but i want kde.  how do i change that pls?
[05:12] <facugaich> Ace2016: I can also use the repositories. A misconfiguration maybe?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> red22, install kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <Ace2016> pyrooo: mount /dev/sda3 /temp -t ext3  thats should work
[05:13] <red22> kueskaj: it is already installed from before installing gnome
[05:13] <Ace2016> facugaich: not sure, could be something like ipv6 or something
[05:14] <BluesKaj> red22, do you have KDE installed
[05:14] <red22> and it has too many customized settings i don't wish to lose.
[05:14] <red22> yes
[05:14] <Ace2016> pyrooo: worked?
[05:14] <pyrooo> nope
[05:14] <pyrooo> special device sda does not exist
[05:15] <aleksanteri> how do i install a kbfx theme?
[05:15] <red22> blueskaj: i'm in kde right now, but if i shutown x (like i have to sometimes) and then type "startx" it goes to gnome instead of kde
[05:15] <MinceR> i've managed to boot the damn thing. turns out it renamed /dev/hdc1 to /dev/sdb1 -- is this some kind of new fad i'm unaware of?
[05:15] <pyrooo> ok listen, i don't think it's gonna work.... i played enough. damn linux
[05:15] <Ace2016> pyroo run fdisk -l and put it in a pastebin
[05:16] <szyszeja> holaaa
[05:16] <Ace2016> MinceR: i think its a problem with the install disks, it thought my hda was sda and go itself totally messed up when i removed uuids from fstab,
[05:16] <BluesKaj> sorry red22... dunno what to tell you ...uninstall gnome-desktop?
[05:16] <Ace2016> pyrooo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:16] <MinceR> i didn't mess with uuids, i don't think they're a bad idea...
[05:17] <MinceR> it did kill the nvidia driver, i'm trying to reinstall it now.
[05:17] <red22> blueskaj: it's ok thnx for trying though.  i'm sure it has to do with that startx script in /usr/bin/startx, but i can't make sense of it
[05:18] <BluesKaj> Ace2016?. perhaps you could help red22
[05:18] <feldegast> tthhere  is a command to  ser kde as the default, wish i could remember it
[05:18] <feldegast> cos i want to set it as well
[05:20] <MinceR> now x keeps segfaulting
[05:21] <MinceR> i really don't get how feisty is supposed to be stable now
[05:21] <Ace2016> red22: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[05:21] <feldegast> does anyone  see what is wrong with: splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/kubuntucustom.xpm.gz
[05:21] <Ace2016> oh wait he left :(
[05:21] <Ace2016> pyrooo: u there?
[05:21] <facugaich> Ace2016: lol, it fixed itself
[05:22] <Ace2016> facugaich: thats great
[05:22] <Ace2016> red22: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[05:23] <red22> just got back, i keep killing my kde by mistake..hehe.  anyway to stop shift-backspace from killing kde pls?
[05:23] <Ace2016> red22: are you running xgl?
[05:23] <kristjan_> are "deb-src" lines needed at all?
[05:23] <red22> ace2016: yes
[05:24] <red22> not right now though bc i killed kde and startx now brings me up in gnome, where i am now
[05:25] <specialbuddy> has anyone had any issues controlling volume using Kmix?
[05:25] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, issues?
[05:25] <Ace2016> red22: run this: xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace'  however the changes may not stick after the restart so, run kwrite, set this as the first line: #!/bin/bashpaste then this as the second:  xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace'   then leave a third line empty, then save it in ~/.kde/Autostart/ and call it whatever you want, then make it executable
[05:26] <Ace2016> red22: thats how i solved the problem
[05:26] <specialbuddy> I can't control my volume with it?
[05:26] <magnuson> red22: Option "DontZap"  "true"
[05:26] <specialbuddy> I guess that's not really a question :)
[05:26] <iarwain_> hi there, anyone know how to get FretsOnFire to run? (running Feisty, and fof complains about libpython2.4.so.1.0 not being found)
[05:27] <Ace2016> magnuson: thats different shift+backspace is a thing that happens with xgl, ctrl+alt+backspace is normal
[05:27] <Hobbsee> iarwain_: install python2.4?
[05:27] <iarwain_> Hobbsee: but i have python2.5, wouldn't that be conflicting?
[05:27] <Ace2016> specialbuddy: open kmix, then try adjusting the pcm value, does that change the volume?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> iarwain_: not sure.  didnt think so...
[05:28] <iarwain_> Hobbsee: trying atm =)
[05:28] <jussi01> hmmm, can someone tell me how to back up my gpg key?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> jussi01: copy your .gnupg/ folder somewhere safe
[05:28] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, type 'alsamixer' in the terminal ..see if you can control the vol from there
[05:28] <jussi01> Hobbsee: brilliant, thanks
[05:28] <specialbuddy> pcm adjusts the sound but why can't I use the pc speaker one?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> pc speaker isn't your soundcard , specialbuddy
[05:29] <iarwain_> Hobbsee: i installed python, and fretsonfire complains about a 'not matching glx visual'
[05:29] <Ace2016> specialbuddy: what pc speaker one, forget that, right click on the kmix icon > select master channel, then pick pcm, then it'll work
[05:30] <specialbuddy> thank you Ace2016 and BluesKaj
[05:30] <soulrider__> !easysource
[05:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:32] <Raven301> I'm trying to put 7.04 onto a western digital 15g hard drive put when I do the install it says it doesn't know what driver to use for the hard drive I went thru the whole list and nothing worked. When I have the beta version on it was ok. Any Ideas?
[05:32] <snap> is there any way to make the file browser show the path of a selected file?
[05:32] <Raven301> s/put/but
[05:32] <peter_> hello! where does that upgrade tool save packages? i was trying to upgrade, but after downloading the packages (only 1G..) it gave some errors, hope it didn't delete them
[05:33] <Ace2016> snap: what do you mean selected file path? its in the address bar isn't it?
[05:33] <snap> i dont see address bar thats what i want
[05:33] <Ace2016> snap: you want to hide the address bar in konqueror?
[05:33] <Tired_> Ok.  I think I got Beryl working.  What keys do I press to blow my mind?
[05:33] <red22> ace2016: i'm gonna reboot into kde to try out your advice. be back in a bit. ty.
[05:34] <Ace2016> red22: bye
[05:34] <snap> no i want to show the path to selected files in the file browser
[05:34] <snap> so i can copy paste them into terminal
[05:34] <aro> Tired_: If it's really working, click on the desktop with both left and right mouse buttons at the same time
[05:34] <aro> Tired_: Then move around
[05:34] <red22> ace2016: actually one more thing related to keyboard.. how do i enable my windows/menu key pls?
[05:34] <Ace2016> snap: forget that, just browse to the place and press F4 or F8
[05:34] <Tired_> wow!
[05:35] <Tired_> it's definitely working
[05:35] <aro> Also alt+tab between several windows
[05:35] <Tired_> how to make the cube?
[05:35] <peter_> settings/toolbar/location or what?
[05:35] <aro> Tired_: Right+left click on the desktop didn't activate the cube?
[05:35] <snap> nothing happened
[05:36] <Tired_> the instructions for feisty on wiki.beryl-project.org seem pretty idiot-proof, got it on the first try from there
[05:36] <Ace2016> red22: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_L' and xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Super_L' then the button is called super, so if your in the beryl menus use stuff like <Super>button1 for move and stuff>
[05:36] <Tired_> it made a cube with no faces
[05:36] <peter_> can someone help me? when i'll run the update again will it delete the packages, or are they already lost?
[05:36] <Ace2016> red22: put them in the file you make in autostart
[05:37] <snap> grrr frustrating
[05:37] <goffi> hi
[05:37] <BluesKaj> peter_, running update doesn't delete pkges
[05:37] <snap> at one point i did have a file manager that had the path ....i have no idea where that went now
[05:37] <Ace2016> snap: whats frustrating?
[05:38] <Ace2016> snap: upload a screenshot to somewhere like imageshack and use that to explain what you mean
[05:38] <peter_> but it already downloaded them, but ended with some error after that
[05:38] <snap> i need to install MT4 and I want to typw ~wine path/filename.exe
[05:38] <snap> but i cant get terminal to the right directory
[05:39] <snap> so i thought ill browes in the file manager and copy the path text and paste it into terminal
[05:39] <red22> ace2016: isn't there a nice little gui app for handling this keyboard stuff/remapping?  i'm not gonna remember commands in a few days.  i'm gonna have to start keeping a journal.. :P
[05:40] <peter_> upgrading ubuntu to version 6.10? wtf. i've probably something wrong
[05:41] <Tired_> how does one add a shortcut to their desktop for a program, like you would in Windows?
[05:41] <red22> snap: if you browse with konqueror you have the path in the address bar. if it's hidden you can activate it in prefs too.
[05:41] <peter_> create new>link to application ?
[05:42] <Tired_> then you have to know where it is...i'm used to just dragging things off the start menu to the desktop
[05:42] <snap> any tips on getting printscreen to work so i can upload a screen cap?
[05:42] <adaptr> it works fine here
[05:43] <adaptr> should be fully automatic
[05:43] <Ace2016> Tired_: so you want a link to an a program on your desktop?
[05:43] <Tired_> yep
[05:43] <peter_> tired_> r click and add item to desktop
[05:43] <Tired_> more than one
[05:43] <Tired_> oh
[05:43] <mistic> does anyone here know how to choose which sound card I want to use ? I want kubuntu to use my usb-headset and not the other soundcard... how to say that to him ? XD
[05:44] <Ace2016> Tired_: you do know you can just drag it, press alt+f1, find the thing, click, hold down, and it to the desktop, release and then select copy
[05:44] <Tired_> i'm always expecting things to be more difficult in linux...they really aren't.
[05:44] <Tired_> i do now  ;)
[05:44] <bobleny> I have VNC installed on a couple of my computers, but I don't know what the IP Address' are for them. I can check that computer, but it changes every time it reboots. Is there a way to check the IPs that are connected to my local network? All of the computers are on the same router.
[05:44] <mistic> Tired_: how to do that then ? plz :D:D:D
[05:44] <red22> tired_: right click the menu item and select add to desktop
[05:45] <Tired_> oh, sorry, mistic, i was speaking to someone else
[05:45] <mistic> ho u weren't spoken to me ^
[05:45] <mistic> :'(
[05:45] <mistic> no problem...
[05:45] <peter_> bobleny> use DNS
[05:45] <Ace2016> mistic: go into kcontrol
[05:46] <bobleny> Domain Name Server?
[05:46] <Ace2016> mistic: then into sound and multimedia, then into sound system, then pick what you want
[05:46] <Ace2016> mistic: in the hardware tab
[05:46] <mistic> 1 min
[05:47] <peter_> if i understand it, you have DHCP and want always know, how to connect to some computer?
[05:47] <dettoaltrimenti> question: if I plug in a camera through usb, what will it be in /dev probably? is there any way to tell the most recently connected device on my computer?
[05:48] <dettoaltrimenti> another question: I did something in Konsole where now I can't see what I type- how do I change it back?
[05:48] <Ace2016> dettoaltrimenti: it should pop up a window asking to mount or something, did it come up?
[05:48] <red22> ace2016: how can i get all my mouse buttons working (7 btns logitech mx510). i followed some guides modifiying my xorg.conf, but no luck.
[05:48] <mistic> Ace2016: I'm in, but in the hardware tab I can choose some things like Alsa, OSS etc... but there is no list about my sound cards here
[05:48] <dettoaltrimenti> nope ace2016
[05:49] <bobleny> peter_: I need to know how to connect to the computers. What I don't know, is how to get the information to connect to the computers.
[05:49] <dettoaltrimenti> another question: image files are automatically opened by firefox. How do I change it so they automatically open in eog?
[05:49] <jhutchins> dettoaltrimenti: You may need to change the scheema, you may just need to close the console and open a new one.  You can try entering the command 'reset'.
[05:50] <dettoaltrimenti> jhutchins- thanks, reset worked
[05:50] <Ace2016> mistic: the only other thing i remember is to try kmix, i think that has a dropdown with the 2 cards in it
[05:50] <snap> http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9853/screenshotbw4.png
[05:50] <Traveler2> i'm trying to use wubi to install kubuntu, and followed the instructions to do it, buy installing the alternative 7.04 in the same folder
[05:50] <mistic> kmix... ok
[05:50] <Traveler2> but it still insists on downloading ordinary ubuntu :/
[05:50] <jhutchins> !ssh | bobleny
[05:50] <ubotu> bobleny: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:50] <mistic> Ace2016: my cards are listed in Kmix, but how to choose one by default ? I cannot say that... :S
[05:50] <Traveler2> guide for wubi says it should take that one instead, but it refuses
[05:51] <jhutchins> !info wubi
[05:51] <ubotu> Package wubi does not exist in feisty
[05:51] <jhutchins> !find wubi
[05:51] <Traveler2> it is the windows installer
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file wubi does not exist in feisty
[05:51] <Traveler2> so i don't need to repartition
[05:52] <peter_> ubotu: he's connecting with VNC
[05:52] <jhutchins> Traveler2: You're going to try to install it to a windows partition?
[05:52] <peter_> lol
[05:52] <Traveler2> that's what wubi's meant to do
[05:52] <peter_> he's bott :\
[05:52] <jhutchins> Traveler2: Is it ntfs or vfat?
[05:53] <Ace2016> red22: did you ceck the forums, i just found this, it might help
[05:53] <Traveler2> ntfs, it just refuses to use the kubuntu iso i just downloaded
[05:53] <dettoaltrimenti> is there an irc channel for using gimp?
[05:53] <Traveler2> instead it goes and download ubuntu :/
[05:53] <bobleny> peter_: so, no ideas?
[05:53] <peter_> if you have only small amount of computers, set fixed ips for them. but i think with dynamically assigned IPs is the DNS way to go. you then always connect to computer1 etc.
[05:54] <mistic> :'(
[05:54] <red22> snap: just hit the button with the pad and pencil between the "back" and "places" buttons on top left
[05:54] <red22> snap: then you get the address bar you want
[05:54] <red22> got it?
[05:54] <bobleny> peter_: I don't know anything about that though... As far as I know, they need to have a server on them to have there own DNS....
[05:55] <Ace2016> mistic: as far as i know the one you pick in the list is the one thats used, i only saw it for about a day
[05:55] <Tired_> wow.  this beryl stuff is worth the price of admission by itself
[05:55] <red22> ace2016: you didn't paste link.. " just found this, it might help..." ?
[05:55] <mistic> Ace2016: And I must restart the computer after having picked it in the list ?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> peter_, maybe some pkges are broken
[05:56] <Ace2016> red22: woops
[05:56] <snap> red thanks.....i used concorer its file exactly what i was looking for
[05:56] <Ace2016> red22: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59729&highlight=logitech+mouse+7+buttons
[05:56] <snap> but i still cant get wine to install the file
[05:57] <chi0> does any one know a good ati guide for Feisty
[05:57] <Ace2016> red22: just search for: logitech mouse 7 buttons    or something similar in the forums, then pick one that relates to your mouse or comes closest to it
[05:57] <peter_> BluesKaj: not, it's upgrading now, probably because adept was not closed and locked the db, but I think it should close automatically
[05:57] <BluesKaj> chi0, what do you want to do ?
[05:57] <bobleny> Isn't there a way to  scan the router to find all the computers that are connected to it?
[05:58] <red22> ace2016: ty i'll try doing my searches in the forums and not just yahoo or general search engine. seems more helpful.  thanks again.
[05:58] <BluesKaj> ok peter_ , good :)
[05:58] <Ace2016> chi0: pick one, from here and follow the steps to install the ati driver http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[05:58] <peter_> bobleny: depends on settings
[05:58] <chi0> ok ty
[05:58] <bobleny> peter_: Which settings?
[05:59] <peter_> bobleny: firewall etc. scan router from internal network, or from where? you can log into most routers from browser.
[06:00] <murphy78> I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?
[06:00] <red22> snap: glad to help.
[06:00] <rjt> hey guys im tryuing to recompile my kernel and i am far enough that i have it and everything but it keeps telling me to name the file to patch
[06:00] <rjt> any ideas?
[06:00] <neoncode> Why doesn't Win+C Play/Pause amarok on Feisty?
[06:00] <jhutchins> Traveler2: Write access to ntfs partitions isn't even supported in standard Linux, I think maybe you don't understand what you're doing.
[06:01] <murphy78> I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?
[06:01] <red22> noencode: does the win key work at all just by itself? feisty seems to not enable it by default.
[06:02] <Ace2016> neoncode: did you try to set it as a shortcut in amarok?
[06:02] <snowice> hello, does anybody know which package I need to install for k3b to be able to burn mp3? BTW, this is on feisty.
[06:02] <rjt> can someone help me compile a kernel?
[06:02] <neoncode> red22: I can still stop or next track/previous track useing the Win key hotkeys. But Win+C doesn't do anything. Also when I right lick on the amarok systray icon it doesn't show a shortcut next to the play option. Yet it shows the other shortcuts.
[06:02] <neoncode> *click
[06:03] <Ace2016> snowice: libk3b2-mp3
[06:04] <jhutchins> neoncode: The shortcut keys for amarok tend to change from release to release, distro to distro.  Look under the amarok configuration to see what's defined now.
[06:04] <Whiz2> what is the command to delete a directory
[06:04] <Whiz2> ?
[06:04] <snowice> ace2016, that one is installed already, but I still get the error message on k3b startup about missing plugin, something about mad library
[06:04] <bobleny> peter_: How can I scan the router?
[06:04] <theringmaster> when I shut down my kubuntu feisty machine the shut down screen is black
[06:04] <neoncode> jhutchins: When I goto Settings -> Configure Shortcuts. It doesn't show the other Win key shortcuts that do work.
[06:04] <rjt> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME COMPILE A KERNEL, I JUST HAVE 1 QUESTION ABOUT IT
[06:05] <jhutchins> Whiz2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:05] <kalagio> hi
[06:05] <jhutchins> neoncode: Settings/Global Shortcuts.
[06:05] <rjt> it keeps saying FILE TO PATCH which file to i type in there
[06:05] <Ace2016> snowice: tried installing libmad0?
[06:05] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a program in ubuntu to download podcasts?
[06:05] <theringmaster> my machine will shut down normally, but the screen is just not showing
[06:06] <kalagio> do you know any channels to discuss for laptops?
[06:06] <peter_> !info nmap
[06:06] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[06:06] <snowice> libmad0 is installed as well, I have no clue what could be missing as well ...
[06:06] <rjt> does anyone know how to compile a kernel
[06:06] <jhutchins> rjt: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
[06:06] <Ace2016> snowice: can you copy the error message?
[06:06] <neoncode> jhutchins: ...Damn I'm blind... thanks!
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !compile | rjt
[06:06] <ubotu> rjt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:07] <rjt> jhutchins, it keeps telling me to to patch what file and i dont know what pile to put in there
[06:07] <jhutchins> neoncode: Don't feel to bad, that got me too.
[06:07] <bobleny> ...
[06:07] <peter_> has anyone tryed the new kernel scheduler?
[06:07] <neoncode> jhutchins: Right, thanks though!
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> peter_: you mean with the low-latency kernel?
[06:07] <jhutchins> rjt: Kernel Compiling is beyond the scope of this channel, you should find some guides like the one above.  It's something that needs to be done correctly, step-by-step.  Sounds like you've gotten a step out of order.
[06:07] <theringmaster> here is my thread I made about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417751
[06:07] <snap> Hell yeah Got Metatrader 4 working under wine
[06:08] <snap> Saaaaaawwwweeeeeetttt
[06:08] <snowice> Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found.  K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.  Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some
[06:08] <snowice> distributions allow installation of Mp3 support via an online update tool (i.e. SuSE's YOU).
[06:08] <kalagio> where can i ask about a laptop to buy?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> kalagio: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> !mp3 | snowice
[06:08] <kalagio> thanks a lot
[06:08] <ubotu> snowice: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <peter_> LeeJunFan: no, i mean that from ingo, look at kerneltrap.org
[06:09] <jhutchins> rjt: Here's a guide specific to Ubuntu (and maybe more current): http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:09] <Ace2016> kalagio: never ever get a laptop with ati for graphics, you will regreat that forever, stick with nvidia, or intel, but nvidia is the best
[06:10] <kalagio> Ace2016 i am between two models
[06:11] <theringmaster> why doesn't my shut-down screen show?
[06:12] <rjt> i am just trying to get my wireless work and i read online that if you compile a new kernel it will work
[06:12] <mistic> Ace2016: it didn't work :S I picked up "usb headset" in kmix and restarted computer. I'm stil on the other card
[06:12] <Flosoft_> hey
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> peter_: if you're looking for a smoother X experience I suggest simply installing schedutils and sudo chrt -p 1 `pidof X`  to give X realtime priority, using the low-latency kernel will help, but you need to turn on preempt with sysctl -w kernel.hz_timer=1
[06:12] <Azzco> I'm trying to repartition my system and I need to move files between the partitions. Can I do this from a LiveCD?
[06:12] <Flosoft_> I need some info about DVB-T
[06:13] <Flosoft_> I have an MSI TV@nywhere
[06:13] <Flosoft_> what do I need to use it?
[06:13] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: I need the preempt flip for any help in the lowlatency kernel ?
[06:13] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: it's not automatically better than the normal one ? that's.. stupid, sorta
[06:14] <adaptr> because why the * would I even install the lowlatency kernel ?
[06:14] <theringmaster> Can anyone tell me why my shut-down screen won't show?
[06:14] <johndarc> salut
[06:14] <malik_> damn kubuntu is buggy
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> adaptr: yeah, I thought so too, but the reasoning it's not on by default is that it can cause problems on machines which use virtualization.
[06:14] <aro> Malik_: care to be descriptive?
[06:14] <Whiz2> forgot to ask before i left... is there a command to empty the trash from the command line? (I'm out of disk space & can not load my desktop)
[06:14] <malik_> i mean it just is
[06:14] <malik_> i dont use it anymore
[06:14] <malik_> but when i had it
[06:14] <aro> Malik_: I repeat, care to be descriptive?
[06:14] <johndarc> do you know how to open rpm files?
[06:15] <malik_> it was incredibly slow
[06:15] <aro> Malik_: Then why are you in this channel?
[06:15] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: okay.. thanks for the tip
[06:15] <malik_> and when i tried to turn the computer off
[06:15] <malik_> it wouldnt turn off
[06:15] <red22> neoncode: sorry,  something came up i had to handle.  seems like you got it worked out anyway though. good.
[06:15] <malik_> but the monitor would power off by itself
[06:15] <aro> Malik_: Why are you in this channel if you no longer use Kubuntu?
[06:15] <Flosoft_> !tv
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Flosoft_> !dvb-t
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <theringmaster> hello?
[06:15] <malik_> konversation logged me on
[06:15] <johndarc> hello
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> malik_: did conversation also type that in for you?
[06:16] <theringmaster> Is there a reason why my shut-down screen is not showing?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> err konversation.
[06:16] <Flosoft_> anyone?
[06:16] <aro> malik_: please leave if you are going to do nothing productive
[06:17] <johndarc> thanks
[06:17] <Whiz2> can someone help me please? I need to empty the trash on my user, but I can't load KDE, because I have no free disk space. is there a way to do it from the command line?
[06:17] <neoncode> red22: Thanks, and thank you for helping!
[06:17] <aro> theringmaster: are you using XGL?
[06:17] <theringmaster> no
[06:17] <theringmaster> This is just a default install
[06:17] <aro> theringmaster: oh, sorry, I had that problem with XGL, so that is the limit of my experience
[06:17] <adaptr> Whiz2: rm -rf ~/.Trash
[06:18] <theringmaster> the computer will shut down normally, but the screen doesn't show
[06:18] <aro> theringmaster: you mean the kubuntu screen with the blue loading bar indicating shut down?
[06:19] <theringmaster> yes
[06:19] <theringmaster> would you call that the usplash?
[06:19] <aro> theringmaster: I'm not sure of its actual name
[06:19] <Hobbsee> theringmaster: yes
[06:19] <red22> yw :)
[06:19] <Hobbsee> ksplash is the one after you login
[06:20] <theringmaster> so my usplash isn't showing
[06:20] <red22> snap: you still around?
[06:20] <Whiz2> adaptr ty
[06:20] <rjt> WTF I JUST WANT MY WIRELESS BACK
[06:21] <snap> it wont let me send a private message red
[06:21] <Flosoft_> how do I use my TV Card?
[06:21] <Flosoft_> it is a DVB-T
[06:21] <Flosoft_> MSI TV@nywhere Master
[06:22] <red22> snap: just double click my name.. and type in the new channel.. should work ?
[06:22] <red22> if not just type here i suppose pls
[06:22] <snap> no they have private messages block for unregistered people
[06:23] <snap> http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=243411#post243411
[06:23] <neoncode> Can anyone help me with KVM, when I try to run it it core dumps and exits.
[06:23] <Whiz2> one more question before i leave... I'm going to get myself a larger hard drive for my linux system. does anyone know of a program that will allow me to copy my linux partition to a different drive in a way that will allow me to swap the drives, and boot from the newly copied partition?
[06:23] <snap> the info i used in that link
[06:23] <red22> snap: ah ok i forgot about that
[06:23] <red22> ok i'll check that out ty.
[06:23] <kim_> Whiz2: i use gparted its in the package manager
[06:23] <marcreichelt> hi!
[06:23] <rjt> intell wireless, anyone got it workin?
[06:23] <red22> what you using it for? trading futures?
[06:23] <snap> that link will have the info....
[06:23] <snap> let me know
[06:24] <snap> I trade Forex currency
[06:24] <marcreichelt> with Kubuntu 7.04, KNetworkManager is the default program to configure the network
[06:24] <marcreichelt> I'm using a laptop, and i have eth0 (LAN) and eth1 (WLAN)
[06:24] <red22> how long have you been doing that?  works well / no flaws or complaints about forex?
[06:24] <Whiz2> kim_: so if i use gparted to copy my system partition to a new drive, and make it active (and resize it to the full drive capacity) i should be able to swap them, and boot from the newly copied partition keeping everything currently installed without any issues?
[06:24] <marcreichelt> if I configure eth0 and deactivate eth1, after a reboot, eth1 is active again
[06:24] <rjt> how to configure mine to work?
[06:25] <rjt> i am on wired now and i just want my wireless back so i can play xbox live
[06:25] <theringmaster> does anyone have any idea on how to fix my usplash?
[06:25] <marcreichelt> is this a bug, or a feature? :-/
[06:25] <snap> been trading for 2 years now
[06:25] <snap> forex is very tough
[06:26] <red22> snap: tough?
[06:26] <snap> took me a solid year of 14-18 days and a bunch of losses to finally get good
[06:26] <snowice> k3b says normalize-audio not installed, but it's in /usr/bin and the latter is in the search pad, how can that be?
[06:26] <Flosoft_> !channels
[06:26] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:27] <red22> ah.
[06:27] <snap> err that should read 14-18 hour
[06:28] <red22> snap: i would really like to talk some more about this for a bit.  do you mind going to another channel or registering so we can pm and not be off-topic here?
[06:28] <red22> if you don't mind.
[06:28] <snap> um sure
[06:28] <Flosoft_> can anyone tell me how I use my TV card?
[06:29] <red22> great ty
[06:29] <geggam> Flosoft_, is it software or hardware encoder ?
[06:29] <snap> come on over to irc.evolu.net #general-area-napstex if you can
[06:29] <Flosoft_> hardware encoder
[06:29] <Flosoft_> geggam: atleast I suppose so
[06:29] <geggam> do u have the module ittv modprobed ?
[06:29] <Flosoft_> geggam: no :S
[06:29] <geggam> modprobe ittv
[06:30] <geggam> i think xawtv will connect
[06:30] <geggam> !xawtv
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xawtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <red22> snap: just join  the channel on this server, can you?
[06:30] <Flosoft_> florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$ modprobe ittv
[06:30] <Flosoft_> FATAL: Module ittv not found.
[06:30] <Flosoft_> florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$
[06:31] <Flosoft_> geggam: It is a MSI TV@nywhere Master
[06:31] <Flosoft_> geggam:  http://www.msicomputer.com/product/netpc/netpc_detail.asp?model=TV@nywhere_Master
[06:32] <Godfather3> scsh.irc.encrypted vR/fpZo=
[06:33] <Godfather3> Test
[06:33] <Flosoft> geggam: I don't know what programms can play TV (wanted Kaffeine to play) and I need some modules I suppose?
[06:34] <geggam> Flosoft, this ugly bastard did it with your TV card... mythtv is a bit overkill
[06:34] <geggam> http://www.lemis.com/grog/HOWTO/mythtv-setup.html
[06:34] <Flosoft> yeah ... but I don't need MyTV
[06:34] <geggam> xawtv should be all u need IF the kernel found it...
[06:34] <Flosoft> * MythTV
[06:34] <geggam> i have to get back to database crap
[06:34] <geggam> !medibuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:35] <geggam> u might need that Flosoft
[06:35] <geggam> later
[06:35] <Godfather3> Test
[06:35] <Flosoft> ok .. cya
[06:36] <Godfather3> Test
[06:37] <livingdaylight> hi, maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?
[06:37] <dettoaltrimenti> when transferring large files to my external hard drive, it seems to 'pause' itself for 2 or 3 seconds, every 5 or 6 seconds. Can I fix this?
[06:41] <livingdaylight>  maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?
[06:42] <wirr> livingdaylight: the patch for firefox is /usr/bin/firefox
[06:42] <livingdaylight> wirr, much obliged
[06:44] <malik_> yo
[06:44] <malik_> is there anyway i can make gnome look like kde?
[06:44] <dettoaltrimenti> just use kde
[06:44] <malik_> no
[06:44] <malik_> its too buggy
[06:44] <Arwen> yay, free Feisty CDs! are they nice and pretty?
[06:45] <dettoaltrimenti> I've been using it for about a year, malik_ what's buggy about it?
[06:46] <malik_> fesity kubuntu
[06:46] <dettoaltrimenti> yeah, I'm using it, what's buggy about it
[06:46] <BluesKaj> malik , KDE is fine perhaps your setup is buggy
[06:46] <marcreichelt> how can I configure (K)NetworkManager so that the configuration does not change (even after a reboot)?
[06:46] <malik_> ubuntu feisty is fine
[06:47] <malik_> when i was using kubuntu
[06:47] <malik_> when i tried to turn off the pc it wouldnt
[06:47] <snowice> is medibuntu repo required to handle mp3 files ?
[06:47] <zoli> help pls I cannot save nvidia screen resolution 1152x864 - i have to adjust after every restart (7.04 kubuntu)
[06:47] <aro> malik_: this is a kubuntu support channel, if you are not using kubuntu, do not bother asking questions
[06:47] <kblog> does anybody know this vnc-client? http://www.cspace.in/
[06:47] <Azzco> Is there any place where I can get help specificly for qtparted?
[06:47] <malik_> whoah
[06:48] <malik_> i didnt know this was an asshole channel
[06:48] <BluesKaj> malik_, has a point, i have the same problem , but i don't think it's KDE , it's smething to do with X
[06:48] <Pete_>  Heh.
[06:48] <aro> Regardless, he's been in this channel saying nothing but "WOW KDE IS BUGGY"
[06:49] <aro> "My computer won't turn off KDE sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[06:49] <Azzco> indeed
[06:49] <priest_> hi
[06:49] <dettoaltrimenti> aro, cool off, he only said it once, and it was in response to something I said
[06:49] <dettoaltrimenti> besides, there's not really a big difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[06:49] <Azzco> Okay so does anyone know if there's some parted IRC channel?
[06:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, he was here last week being negative too ,... his mom prolly lets him on the pc a few times/wk
[06:50] <sc0tch> Is there a way to customize the list of base packages that install (say removing unwanted packages), before installing to HDD?
[06:50] <aro> dettoaltrimenti: check the logs, he's been saying it for the past hour
[06:50] <marcreichelt> Azzco: #parted ?
[06:50] <marcreichelt> ;)
[06:50] <Azzco> marcreichelt: I'm using qtParted and I'm having trouble resizing
[06:51] <marcreichelt> Azzco: Resizing is _always_ a problem
[06:51] <marcreichelt> AFAIK QTParted does not support this feature
[06:51] <marcreichelt> gparted does
[06:51] <marcreichelt> but
[06:51] <snowice> Can anybody help me with something as simple as burning an audio CD from mp3 files? Otherwise I go to sleep, it's 1am here. :-)
[06:52] <BluesKaj> Azzco, have you considered GParted Live CD , it's bootable and does a much better job
[06:52] <marcreichelt> what file system do you have on the partition you want to resize?
[06:52] <Azzco> snowice if you're using kubuntu ther'es allways k3b
[06:52] <Azzco> marcreichelt: ext3
[06:52] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:52] <marcreichelt> then gparted should work
[06:52] <Azzco> Okay thanks I'll try it out
[06:52] <marcreichelt> but always make a backup first
[06:52] <dettoaltrimenti> alright
[06:52] <Azzco> Okay
[06:52] <marcreichelt> resizing a partition always is critical
[06:52] <snowice> Azzco, I am, and it's with k3b that I have the problem, complaining about a missing plugin, but I have no idea which one it is.
[06:53] <llutz> snowice: use k3b after "sudo aptitude install libk3b2-mp3"
[06:53] <dettoaltrimenti> hey, is there any way in the terminal to merge all the txt files in a folder without typing each file name out?
[06:53] <snowice> llutz, libk3b2-mp3 is installed, but still error
[06:54] <llutz> snowice: sry no idea then
[06:54] <snowice> llutz, do u use feisty and can you burn audio cd from mp3 files?
[06:55] <llutz> snowice: yes
[06:55] <marcreichelt> snowice: have you restartedt K3b after that?
[06:55] <Arwen> snowice, I can... not that I'd want to....
[06:56] <snowice> yes, I did restart k3b after that
[06:56] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:56] <snowice> do I need to add the medibuntu repo in my sources list?
[06:56] <marcreichelt> not really
[06:56] <llutz> snowice: not for mp3
[06:56] <Arwen> no, libk3b2-mp3 or whatever covers it
[06:56] <Arwen> the medibuntu k3b can rip DVDs... but with very few options..
[06:57] <snowice> I even rebooted and still have the problem
[06:57] <Arwen> you know... audio CDs are overrated... just get a portable media player..
[06:57] <marcreichelt> snowice: no idea if it works from then on, but did you install lame?
[06:58] <marcreichelt> I have 'lame' installed here
[06:58] <snowice> lame is also installed
[06:58] <marcreichelt> but as all others said, libk3b2-mp3 should work
[06:58] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:58] <marcreichelt> no idea ;)
[06:59] <llutz> lame encodes mp3, nothing to do with ecoding
[06:59] <snowice> I have added medibuntu, it seems to upgrade amarok, k3b and a few others but it's terribly slow
[06:59] <Arwen> llutz, well, lame also acts as a decoder...
[07:00] <marcreichelt> oh
[07:00] <marcreichelt> llutz: lame also decodes MP3 ;)
[07:00] <llutz> yea but not with k3b
[07:00] <marcreichelt> seems so
[07:01] <marcreichelt> maybe you have a solution for my problem?
[07:01] <marcreichelt> with (K)NetworkManager?
[07:01] <BluesKaj> Arwen, audio CD quality is much higher than even the highest bitrate MP3 , it's not the same or overrated at all , that's been my experience.
[07:01] <Arwen> BluesKaj, if you burn an MP3 to Audio CD, then it's 20x larger and the same bad quality...
[07:01] <Arwen> besides, AAC > MP3
[07:02] <marcreichelt> har
[07:02] <marcreichelt> FLAC > AAC > MP3
[07:02] <llutz> if lossy-compression, then ogg/Vorbis
[07:02] <Arwen> FLAC and AAC are for different things...
[07:02] <marcreichelt> :)
[07:02] <Arwen> llutz, meh, I prefer MPEG-4 AAC, it has wider support
[07:02] <snowice> is there an easy way then to convert mp3 files to ogg?
[07:03] <marcreichelt> oggenc?
[07:03] <llutz> there's a script calles mp32ogg
[07:03] <llutz> called
[07:03] <BluesKaj> Arwen, i don't burn mp3 to cd ...it's still mp3
[07:03] <Arwen> marcreichelt, wait, you can encode audio as WMV???
[07:03] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yep, but that's the topic of the discussion
[07:03] <Arwen> 192k MP3 is pretty solid though
[07:04] <marcreichelt> no, Arwen
[07:04] <Arwen> then what's WMV have to do with this?... oh... WMA...
[07:04] <ubuntu_> somone can help me
[07:04] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:04] <marcreichelt> codecs ;)
[07:04] <soulrider> ubuntu_: yeah, ask
[07:04] <BluesKaj> I'm old school , mp3 is for disposeable music lovers
[07:05] <marcreichelt> ubuntu_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:05] <soulrider> and ubuntu_ change your nick please
[07:05] <dettoaltrimenti> actually, mp3 is pretty good. I know for a fact that I can't tell the difference between mp3 and wav on any audio equipment that costs less than $2000
[07:05] <soulrider> yeah, i dont have a problem with MP3
[07:05] <dettoaltrimenti> this is just like saying that records sound better than cds.... I can't hear it.
[07:05] <soulrider> kipseron:  :)
[07:05] <snowice> ok, I will try to convert my mp3's to ogg
[07:05] <Arwen> BluesKaj, well, MP3 is kinda outdated.... it's time for it to die anyway
[07:05] <snowice> who owns the mp3 patent anyway?
[07:05] <Arwen> snowice, NO! DON'T DO THAT
[07:06] <dettoaltrimenti> does anyone here use the console audio player moc?
[07:06] <snowice> Arwen, why not?
[07:06] <kipseron> i install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd
[07:06] <kipseron> ?
[07:06] <Arwen> snowice, that makes your crappy music sound even worse
[07:06] <marcreichelt> snowice: beside, oggenc does not support MP3
[07:06] <Arwen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3#Licensing_and_patent_issues - MP3 patents
[07:06] <dettoaltrimenti> if you don't use mp3, then use FLAC. it's the smallest lossless way to go
[07:06] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti, audio memory is terrible , I'll grant you that , but if one compares the 2 CD Audio will win hands down even on a rck system
[07:06] <marcreichelt> you first have to decode the MP3s
[07:06] <BluesKaj> rack
[07:06] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, not actually true, there's several formats more efficient than FLAC
[07:07] <Arwen> BluesKaj, again, 192K+ MP3 is more or less transparent... but then again, I don't have gold-plated wires
[07:07] <kdawg> hate to interupt, but how do I add a terminal shortcut to the right click menu?
[07:07] <BluesKaj> Flac has a lot of utilities that will play it , like VLC
[07:08] <Arwen> BluesKaj, not a lot of support on the portable front though
[07:08] <Arwen> *cpu power*
[07:08] <snowice> it's clear I can't use mp3, so I need something else, but I still have a large collection of mp3's, so they need to be converted in something I can work with
[07:08] <kipseron> ok someone can help me
[07:08] <kipseron> ?
[07:08] <Arwen> snowice, decode them to wav and then burn them
[07:08] <kdawg> whats up kipseron
[07:09] <kipseron> i ask the quistion
[07:09] <snowice> how to decode to wav?
[07:09] <BluesKaj> Arwen, no fancy interconnects are necessary to tell the diff between true wav and mp3
[07:09] <Ace2016> kipseron: are you on the live cd?
[07:09] <kipseron> yes
[07:09] <Arwen> BluesKaj, that was a sarcastic comment... but anyway, I definitely can't tell the difference... maybe you have golden ear syndrome? or your encoder really sucks?
[07:10] <Menda> hi
[07:10] <Ace2016> anyway
[07:10] <Arwen> Ace2016, frozen google :-)
[07:10] <dettoaltrimenti> BluesKaj- http://duxlist.com:81/ give that a try
[07:11] <kipseron> ace
[07:11] <kipseron> you can help me
[07:11] <kdawg> yeah but I thought the earth was getting hotter every year......  al gore needs to talk to google
[07:11] <kipseron> ?
[07:11] <kipseron> \
[07:11] <BluesKaj> Arwen, well I'm sorry you think it's sarcastic ...been into audio and playing music for over 50 yrs , maybe it's just my aural experience showing thru .
[07:11] <kipseron> \
[07:11] <kipseron> plz somone
 i install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd
[07:11] <Arwen> BluesKaj, or it's because you *expect* to hear a difference so your brain *perceives* one
[07:11] <Arwen> try a blind test
[07:11] <marcreichelt> hehe
[07:11] <marcreichelt> lame --decode test.mp3 - | oggenc - -o test.ogg
[07:12] <marcreichelt> Pipes are cool
[07:12] <Ace2016> kipseron: you could chroot to it
[07:12] <kipseron> how i do that
[07:12] <BluesKaj> bah humbug ...mp3 sucks period ! :)
[07:12] <firestarter> hi all. is there anyone who has VLC or MPLAYER? I have to test if my streaming server works for remote adresses.... thnks
[07:12] <Ace2016> kipseron: run konsole, then type in sudo su, then  mkdir /mnt/root
[07:13] <Arwen> BluesKaj, I never said it didn't... I just said that it's transparent at 192K
[07:13] <BluesKaj> firestarter,try amarok
[07:13] <kipseron> and
[07:13] <vicks> hi, usb isnt working on my feisty. i can't even enter the usb module in system settings. and when i do an lsusb in konsole, it just hangs. can anyone help me?
[07:13] <dettoaltrimenti> I tried that, and I couldn't tell the difference
[07:13] <BluesKaj> sucks transparently , then :)
[07:13] <Ace2016> kipseron: mount /dev/whatever your root partition is /mnt/root
[07:13] <Arwen> firestarter, I do
[07:14] <Ace2016> kipseron: do you know what your / was?
[07:14] <Arwen> firestarter, uri?
[07:14] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:14] <kipseron> /home/kipseron
[07:14] <kipseron> you mean to that
[07:14] <kipseron> or
[07:14] <kipseron> to
[07:14] <kipseron> /media/hdb1
[07:14] <firestarter> arwen, one moment (thnks)
[07:14] <Ace2016> hdb1 was / right?
[07:15] <Ace2016> can't be it
[07:15] <kipseron> and know
[07:15] <kipseron> how i can get into the pakage manager
[07:15] <kipseron> of this partition
[07:15] <kipseron> package
[07:15] <greeko> hello
[07:15] <Ace2016> kipseron: what partition did you install ubuntu to?
[07:16] <kipseron> /media/hdb1
[07:16] <kipseron> kubuntu
[07:16] <dettoaltrimenti> which file deals with mounting things when you plug them in?
[07:16] <kipseron> how want to get into the package manager of this partiton
[07:16] <kipseron> for finish this update
[07:17] <Ace2016> oh so you mean in the livecd you can go into /dev/hdb1 and it has fodlers like bin and stuff?
[07:17] <Ace2016> kipseron: i'm trying to get to that, you have to mound it first
[07:17] <kipseron> no i want to delete package
[07:17] <kipseron> i mounted it
[07:17] <Ace2016> kipseron: do you want to finish the update?
[07:17] <kipseron> its already mount
[07:17] <kipseron> yes
[07:18] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, /etc/fstab
[07:18] <kipseron> i want a access to do upgrade on this partiton
[07:18] <kipseron> and its finish my update
[07:18] <Ace2016> kipseron: so the root partition has been mounted into /media/hdb1 and you see all the folders like usr and boot and stuff in there?
[07:18] <dettoaltrimenti> that's the one, thanks arwen
[07:18] <kipseron> yes
[07:19] <dettoaltrimenti> and is there a log file for mount?
[07:19] <kipseron> i think i made it
[07:19] <kipseron> sec
[07:19] <kipseron> no
[07:19] <kipseron> so you can helkp me
[07:19] <Ace2016> ok then run cd /  and then mount -t proc none /media/hdb1/proc
[07:19] <kipseron> so you can help
[07:19] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, /var/log/syslog ?
[07:19] <Ace2016> kipseron: done?
[07:19] <paolo> i need help with mouse
[07:20] <kipseron> sec
[07:20] <paolo> in fact after upgrading to feisty my 3rd button mouse
[07:20] <paolo> stop working
[07:21] <Ace2016> paolo: you mean middle click?
[07:21] <kipseron> yes
[07:21] <kipseron> done
[07:21] <dettoaltrimenti> well I can't find it, but I get an error about not having a newline in my fstab- what's that all about
[07:21] <Arwen> haha, my generic MICROSOFT mouse works perfectly :-)
[07:21] <Arwen> says something doesn't it?
[07:21] <Ace2016> mount -o bind /dev /media/hdb1/dev
[07:21] <kipseron> Ace2016:
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: run that
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: ??
[07:22] <paolo> i tried to look @ xorg.conf for some errors but i didn't find nothing .-P
[07:22] <kipseron> done
[07:22] <Ace2016> sudo chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: run that
[07:22] <paolo> clicking the wheel aka 3rd button
[07:23] <Ace2016> kipseron: does it get you into the command line?
[07:23] <kipseron> yes
[07:23] <Ace2016> kipseron: now run apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:23] <paolo> my mouse is microsoft too :-)
[07:23] <BluesKaj> as is mine
[07:23] <kipseron> not work
[07:23] <kipseron> its show only fonts
[07:24] <Ace2016> kipseron: what error
[07:24] <kipseron> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:24] <kipseron>   ttf-arphic-ukai
[07:24] <kipseron> its do only that
[07:24] <rjt> hmm
[07:24] <Ace2016> thats strange
[07:24] <rjt> i was wondering if someone is around and maybe able to help me figure out my wifi problems
[07:25] <kipseron> ace
[07:25] <kipseron> so you know what to do
[07:25] <kipseron> ?
[07:25] <Ace2016> kipseron: try apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:25] <kipseron> no
[07:26] <Ace2016> no?
[07:26] <kipseron> the same problem
[07:26] <Ace2016> problem?
[07:26] <kipseron> only that package
[07:26] <kipseron> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:26] <kipseron>   ttf-arphic-ukai
[07:26] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | rjt
[07:26] <ubotu> rjt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:27] <paolo> i also looked for differences between the current xorg.conf and some other previously bak-upped
[07:27] <kipseron> ace
[07:27] <paolo> it doesn't help
[07:27] <kipseron> so you have more ideas
[07:27] <Ace2016> open a new konsole tab and do ls -a  /media/hdb1  and paste the contents of the current konsole tab and the new one in the pastebin:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:28] <firestarter> arwen: this is the url for VLC  rtsp://82.48.155.216:8854/mpeg4ESVideoTest
[07:29] <firestarter> can you tell me if you see the streaming? (thnks)
[07:29] <kipseron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17089/
[07:29] <kipseron> ace
[07:29] <kipseron> here it is
[07:30] <Ace2016> kipseron: and the contents of the first konsole tab?
[07:30] <Arwen> firestarter, no data
[07:30] <Ace2016> the one in which you tried to do the update?
[07:30] <firestarter> Arwen: are you bhind a FW?
[07:31] <Arwen> yes, what's that have to do with your stream though?
[07:31] <kipseron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17091/
[07:31] <kipseron> here it is
[07:31] <Ace2016> see that there explains a lot
[07:32] <firestarter> Arwen: i have to test if the streaming is reachable from a remote host
[07:32] <Arwen> firestarter, VLC connects to your server but fails to receive any data
[07:32] <firestarter> maybe Arwen your FW blocks the incoming data
[07:32] <kipseron> ace
[07:32] <kipseron> you know what i need to do
[07:32] <kipseron> ?
[07:32] <Arwen> firestarter, um, no
[07:32] <Arwen> your server is just misconfigured
[07:33] <Ace2016> kipseron: umount /dev/hdb1
[07:33] <kipseron> ok
[07:33] <kipseron> and
[07:33] <firestarter> Arwen: try this other one, plz:
[07:33] <Ace2016> kipseron: open a new konsole tab, and don't type anything about chroot randomly in tehre
[07:33] <firestarter>   rtsp://82.48.155.216:8554/mpeg4ESVideoTest
[07:33] <kipseron> ok
[07:33] <kipseron> what to do
[07:34] <Arwen> firestarter, same problem, rtp connect but no data
[07:34] <firestarter> Arwen: ok, thnks for your support
[07:34] <easy1> !compiz
[07:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:34] <kipseron> ace
[07:35] <Ace2016> kipseron: do sudo su, then mkdir /temp then mount /dev/hdb1 /temp, then mount -t proc none /temp/proc then mount -o bind /dev /temp/dev
[07:35] <easy1> does anyone know if the compiz guide works for fiesty
[07:36] <easy1> this one !compiz
[07:36] <Ace2016> now do sudo chroot /temp /bin/bash
[07:36] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hdb1 /temp
[07:36] <kipseron> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /temp busy
[07:36] <kipseron> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /mnt/root
[07:36] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:37] <Ace2016> kipseron: ok run umount /dev/hdb1
[07:37] <Ace2016> done?#
[07:37] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# umount /dev/hdb1
[07:37] <kipseron> umount: /mnt/root: device is busy
[07:37] <kipseron> umount: /mnt/root: device is busy
[07:37] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:38] <Ace2016> close konsole and start a fresh one, and close any file browsers looking at /mnt/root
[07:38] <Ace2016> then run sudo su, then umount /dev/hdb1
[07:38] <Ace2016> does that work?
[07:38] <kipseron> no
[07:38] <kipseron> busy agein
[07:38] <Ace2016> ok well the fastest way to solve this is to restart
[07:38] <Ace2016> so restart and come back
[07:39] <CygnusX1> Has anyone added Kubuntu-desktop to Ubuntu 7.04 and ran into the issue in which after logging in via KDM, the screen blanks momentarily and then drops you back to the KDM login screen?  (I am currently using GDM to login to KDE without issue...well, except shutdown and restart are not available except from GDM)
[07:40] <emanuel> :o
[07:40] <adlsfkjad> hello
[07:40] <Ace2016> hi
[07:41] <Ace2016> kipseron: u there?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> i have a quick question for somebody
[07:41] <aleksanteri> adlsfkjad: ask
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> you ready lol?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> ok im runnin 2 os's
[07:41] <Ace2016> which 2?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> i have windows xp and ubuntu on one hard drive
[07:42] <Ace2016> and you want to access linux files from windows?
[07:42] <adlsfkjad> actually i wanna do it the other way around i want to acces all my windows files using linux
[07:43] <Ace2016> is it ntfs???
[07:43] <Arwen> !ntfs | adlsfkjad
[07:43] <ubotu> adlsfkjad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> yes
[07:43] <Ace2016> or fat32??
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> nts\
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> ntfs*
[07:43] <Ace2016> oh well you can read ntfs but not write, writing to ntfs is dangerous
[07:43] <MegaVolt> hi, im having a problem with dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       help pls :(
[07:43] <kinus__> has anyone managed to access linux files from a windows boot? i've got close by running a virtual pc in windows and then creating a samba share
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> all i want to do is listein to my music but it wont find the hard drive...
[07:44] <adlsfkjad> ive tried mounting and everything yet it wont lemme do anythin
[07:44] <MegaVolt> kinus__: www.fs-driver.org ?
[07:44] <adiga> quit
[07:44] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: thats fine, you can listen to the music
[07:44] <adlsfkjad> yes explain to me how thats where im lost
[07:44] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: it should be mounted in /media/
[07:45] <adlsfkjad> ill have to check again but its not in there
[07:45] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: what kind of harddisk / partition is it?
[07:45] <adlsfkjad> what you mean
[07:46] <kinus__> Thanks MegaVolt, i don't trust it though
[07:46] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: e.g. if its on the first sata disc second partition try: mkdir /mnt/test && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/test
[07:46] <MegaVolt> as root
[07:46] <MegaVolt> kinus__: using it for about 2 years now, it works fine
[07:46] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: post the contents of sudo fdisk -l and run kdesu kate and open /etc/fstab and copy the contents also to a pastebin,    http://pastebin.com/
[07:47] <kinus__> MegaVolt, i don't run windows anymore...that was a problem I was trying to solve about 3 years ago. Was just curious if anyone had solved it yet
[07:47] <jervine> kinus__: fs-driver is pretty good... there's also other utilities like e2fs explorer (or something like that)
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> peter@Omerta:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Password:
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Disk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB, 20416757760 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda1   *           1        1589    12763611    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:48] <Ace2016> me wonders when kipseron will be back
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda2            1590        2176     4715077+  83  Linux
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda3            2177        2482     2457945   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: wait!!!!!!
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Disk /dev/hdb: 122.9 GB, 122942324736 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: STOP!!!!
[07:48] <adlsfkjad>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hdb1               1       14946   120053713+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:48] <Ace2016> STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> peter@Omerta:~$
[07:48] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: use pastebin or smething like that pls
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> i stopped lol
[07:48] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | adlsfkjad
[07:48] <ubotu> adlsfkjad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <MegaVolt> see topic
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: i said copy it to a pastebin!!! http://pastebin.com/
[07:49] <adlsfkjad> to late haha
[07:49] <adlsfkjad> im workin on that now
[07:49] <MegaVolt> what you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[07:49] <Ace2016> now post your /etc/fstab at the pastebin
[07:49] <jervine> MegaVolt: he probably wants hdb1 - that seems to be the larger (data?) partition
[07:50] <Kubuntu> Hello
[07:50] <Ace2016> hi
[07:50] <MegaVolt> jervine: right .. didnt see the last line ;)
[07:50] <Kubuntu> How can I make cool music in LMMS?
[07:50] <adlsfkjad> ya the bigger one is my second harddrive
[07:50] <MegaVolt> what you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[07:51] <adlsfkjad> cant create directory
[07:51] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: as root
[07:52] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: can you post the contents of /etc/fstab???  run "sudo cat /etc/fstab" in the command line and paste it into the pastebin
[07:52] <yonkeltron> how does one get to the adept installer interface?
[07:52] <LjL> Ace2016: fstab should be readable as non-root too
[07:52] <MegaVolt> http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       can anyone help?
[07:52] <LjL> yonkeltron: K / System / Adept Manager
[07:52] <jussi01> ok, ive just reinstalled, and my adept doesnt start... it tries but it just doesnt start. any ideas?
[07:53] <adlsfkjad> its not lettin me do fstab
[07:53] <Ace2016> jussi01: try installing synapitc, sudo apt-get install synaptic, and start it using kdesu synaptic
[07:53] <yonkeltron> LjL: yes but that's the adept manager and i want to know how to get to the interface pictured here: http://shots.linuxquestions.org/scaled/Kubuntu%207.04/21.gif
[07:53] <to0om> hi all, a question: i'd like to get java working with konqueror (e.g. with map24.com). i'm using feisty and have sun-java installed from the ubuntu repository. i also have java enabled in the konqueror settings and have entered the full java executable path, but map24.com still doesn't work. does anyone have an idea?
[07:53] <Ace2016> O_O
[07:53] <adlsfkjad> permission denied lol
[07:53] <MegaVolt> jussi01: maybe remove (with purge) adept and reinstall ?
[07:54] <Cable86> how we doin?
[07:54] <jussi01> MegaVolt: yeah, ill give that a try
[07:54] <adlsfkjad> do i have to format the second one linux format?
[07:54] <MegaVolt> yonkeltron: kde start menu - add/remove programs
[07:55] <MegaVolt> or console: adept_installer
[07:56] <LjL> yonkeltron: err, that's jude K / Add/Remove...
[07:56] <LjL> jsut
[07:56] <LjL> gah, just
[07:56] <Kubuntu> What cool can I install?
[07:56] <kinus__> qtparted
[07:56] <kinus__> yakuake
[07:56] <LjL> !info coolmain
[07:56] <ubotu> Package coolmain does not exist in feisty
[07:56] <aro> Kubuntu: define cool
[07:57] <LjL> !info coolmail
[07:57] <ubotu> coolmail: Mail notifier with 3d graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-9 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:57] <kinus__> devede
[07:57] <kinus__> acidrip
[07:57] <kinus__> gtkpod
[07:57] <kinus__> chromium
[07:57] <kinus__> supertux
[07:57] <kinus__> tuxracer
[07:58] <kinus__> those are all cool things
[07:58] <Cable86> how would i go about changing the K icon?
[07:58] <Ace2016> kinus__: you missed the best one, beryl :D
[07:58] <Ace2016> Cable86: install kbfx
[07:58] <kinus__> Ace2016: ahh...of course
[07:58] <kinus__> though i assume evryone has beryl installed by now
[07:58] <Cable86> i dont use beryl
[07:59] <Cable86> i used it a LONG time ago, but it was too unstable so i just stayed away from it
[07:59] <BluesKaj> why beryl ...why asume :)
[07:59] <MegaVolt> i also dont use it ... but i got it installed to have someting to show if there will ever be a girl anywhere near me
[08:00] <Ace2016> Cable86: well not its stable enough to use, mine has never crashed so far in feisty :D#
[08:00] <soulrider> i had problems with beryl in ubuntu. but it works great for me in Arch
[08:00] <Cable86> nice....i last used it back when its interface looked exactly like compiz, but it just had some extras :-P
[08:00] <kinus__> a great beryl theme ---> http://www.beryl-themes.org/content/show.php/Kore?content=54701
[08:00] <soulrider> my beryl uses mi KDE theme
[08:01] <MegaVolt> cmon guys anyone pls :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html    how to fix this?
[08:01] <philip_> i like beryl in feisty but when i try to run wolfenstein it doesn't go full screen
[08:01] <rjt> i just wish my wireless intel card worked
[08:01] <Cable86> i wonder how things will progress with compiz/beryl now that theyre merging
[08:01] <MegaVolt> that beryl theme looks ... not really good
[08:02] <MegaVolt> more like " i want to be vista but im too ugly to even do that "
[08:02] <aro> MegaVolt: to each his own
[08:02] <MegaVolt> yea
[08:02] <Cable86> Ace2016: so kbfx will give me the option to change the icon?
[08:02] <soulrider> MegaVolt: try doing "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[08:03] <soulrider> MegaVolt: vista doesnt look that good
[08:03] <soulrider> yes, it looks nice, but not that much
[08:03] <MegaVolt> soulrider: i get that error message trying to do dist-upgrade (and upgrade, update works fine)
[08:03] <jubuntu> should one use apt-get or aptitude?
[08:03] <Kubuntu> Vista looks like your grandmas ass!
[08:03] <Cable86> put it all in one command...."sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" goes faster that way :-D
[08:03] <MegaVolt> think the black is a little too depressing
[08:03] <soulrider> MegaVolt: aptitude or apt-get ?
[08:03] <MegaVolt> apt-get
[08:03] <Kubuntu> apt-get i think!
[08:04] <soulrider> aptitude is better than apt-get
[08:04] <MegaVolt> aptitude is something else?
[08:04] <soulrider> handles dependencies better in some cases
[08:04] <Cable86> jubuntu:  read this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[08:04] <MegaVolt> kk ill try ;)
[08:04] <soulrider> everyone has been linking tot hats ite, wtf is it? :P
[08:04] <yonkeltron> LjL: is the adept-installer interface present in edgy?
[08:04] <MegaVolt> no, aptitude giving me the same error
[08:05] <Cable86> soulrider:  its just a great guide site that aysiu (from the forums) made
[08:05] <Kubuntu> How often should I update Kubuntu? Can it do it automaticaly?
[08:05] <soulrider> i see, can we all contribute?
[08:05] <soulrider> last night i was thinking of making a quick FAQ for newbies
[08:05] <soulrider> with the most basic questions, quick andswers
[08:06] <Kubuntu> Ho made Kubuntu?
[08:06] <Cable86> well, im guessing you could add to the wiki somehow, or write a entry in the tutorials and tips section of the forums
[08:06] <Kubuntu> Bill Gates?
[08:06] <aro> Yea Bill Gates made it last night
[08:06] <kaneknows> so is there a way you can force a cdrom to eject?
[08:06] <kaneknows> its not mounted
[08:06] <soulrider> eject
[08:06] <Cable86> push the eject button?
[08:07] <MegaVolt> kaneknows: press the button
[08:07] <aro> You can physically put a pin in the little hole that forces the door to open on the CDROM
[08:07] <Kubuntu> Hehe
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: no way bill made this :P
[08:07] <Kubuntu> Ho made this?
[08:07] <Ace2016> restart the pc and unmount it during the restart
[08:07] <Kubuntu> A Deutch guy?
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: Mark Shuttleworth founded Ubuntu
[08:07] <aro> A lot of people made it
[08:07] <aro> It's a community effort
[08:07] <kaneknows> aro thats truee but thats a little hackey eh?
[08:07] <soulrider> Linus Torvalds was hte one that wrote Linux originally
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: linux is mantained byt he community now
[08:07] <aro> kaneknows, you said it wasn't mounted so that is what I suggested
[08:08] <Kubuntu> Not by that Deutch guy?
[08:08] <kaneknows> : )
[08:08] <soulrider> no
[08:08] <soulrider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Kubuntu read that
[08:09] <Kubuntu> How can I contribute?
[08:09] <ultrafuzz> I just ran the Distro Upgrade last night and now I cannot access or read my USB HD, i have it enables but "i do not have the rights to open it"...any thoughts?
[08:09] <soulrider> Kubuntu: lots of ways
[08:10] <Cable86> is there a way to make a konqueror quicklauncher that i can use to pick which profile i want it to load with?
[08:10] <esben> ultrafuzz: Does it mount? Try typing "mount" in a terminal
[08:10] <Kubuntu> How can I make a game for instance?
[08:10] <ultrafuzz> esben: ill try
[08:10] <Cable86> like...one that gives me a choice, or one for each view profile?
[08:10] <soulrider> Kubuntu:  you would ahve to know programming :P
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Where can I learn that?
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Isn't it a WYSIWYG editor for games?
[08:11] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: google c++ tutorial
[08:11] <soulrider> not that i know of Kubuntu
[08:11] <soulrider> i need to go study, be back later
[08:11] <ultrafuzz> esben: already mounted...still cannot access
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Is c++ for kubuntu?
[08:11] <MegaVolt> and google opengl tutorial
[08:12] <si^> hey, someone here with ATI + fglrx who can help me? i installed fglrx when i run with DRI disabled it's ok when i run with DRI enabled kde hangs after loading
[08:12] <Kubuntu> I thougth it was for windows!
[08:12] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: c++ is for almost everything, including kubuntu
[08:12] <jubuntu> why do you want to enable DRI with fgrlx?
[08:12] <Kubuntu> So if I make a c++ game, then it would work in both linux and windows?
[08:12] <si^> jubuntu: 3d acceleration?
[08:13] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: if you use the right libs: yes
[08:13] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: try google for c++, opengl, sdl
[08:13] <BluesKaj> jubuntu, he's talikning about direct rendering, so he can run apps like google earth etc
[08:13] <aro> Kubuntu: you really should read up on C++ by googling it
[08:13] <aro> Kubuntu: you'll learn a lot more than in here
[08:14] <Kubuntu> But where can I find a complyer that worx in kubuntu?
[08:14] <ultrafuzz> Kubuntu: Usae Adept and search for C++ Complier
[08:14] <jubuntu> apt-get install g++ ;)
[08:14] <MegaVolt> si^: isnt fglrx the ati driver with (more or less full) 3d functionality? then there is no need for dri
[08:14] <Kubuntu> sudo apt-get install c++ ?
[08:14] <esben> Kubuntu: gcc is the name of the compiler everyone uses on linux
[08:15] <MegaVolt> gcc for c and g++ for c++
[08:15] <Kubuntu> I already hav gcc
[08:15] <BluesKaj> MegaVolt, if one uses the proprietary fglrx driver , it won't dri with the open source one
[08:15] <MegaVolt> java is probably easier to start with
[08:15] <esben> Kubuntu: Then ou are set :)
[08:15] <Kubuntu> How do I start gcc?
[08:15] <MegaVolt> BluesKaj: exactly ;) it cant work that way
[08:16] <esben> Kubuntu: Find a C++ tutorial site. Try going from wikipedia
[08:16] <Kubuntu> But I need to start the program first!
[08:16] <Kubuntu> How?
[08:16] <ultrafuzz> esben: already mounted...still cannot access
[08:16] <rjt> intel wireless
[08:16] <rjt> has there been a fix yet?
[08:16] <aro> Kubuntu, you don't "start" gcc
[08:16] <BluesKaj> yeah MegaVolt unless our italian friend who wrote Envy comes up with a version for Feisty
[08:16] <Kubuntu> Why not?
[08:16] <aro> Kubuntu, you really need to read up on basic programming, try googling it
[08:16] <jubuntu> linux kernel 2.6.20 contains the latest driver for ipw3945
[08:17] <Kubuntu> But I need a complyer!
[08:17] <aro> Kubuntu, there are great websites out there that will answer ALL of what you are asking
[08:17] <Kubuntu> Such as?
[08:17] <aro> Kubutnu, gcc is a compiler
[08:17] <aro> Kubuntu, www.google.com
[08:17] <beau> when i do iwconfig i get access point:invalid any suggestions?
[08:17] <Arwen> Kubuntu, you run gcc like this "gcc -o binaryfile sourcefile.c"
[08:17] <si^> MegaVolt: no idea i want to make it functional... for now i have 2 options, when i set in bios AGP to 4 MB it runs without DRI when i set 128 MB it loads with DRI etc... and hang after KDE is loaded it hangs i can move mouse but all freeze
[08:18] <beau> i also tried to set the ap to any but it didnt work
[08:18] <esben> Kubuntu: Try here :) http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory
[08:18] <Kubuntu> bash: gcc:: command not found
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: no input files
[08:18] <Kubuntu> bash: gcc:: command not found
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ops
[08:18] <jubuntu> what ati ?
[08:18] <Kubuntu> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <aro> Kubuntu, PLEASE read up on basic programming, it sounds like you don't know where to begin
[08:19] <frojnd> why is my soudn all weired when I connect headphones ???? plase help? If I have speakers sound is OK, but when swich the cables sound is all weird.. any ideas??
[08:19] <Arwen> Kubuntu, you're too lame to write programs, go die please
[08:19] <Kubuntu> but it says I neeed a coplier, gcc won't run!
[08:19] <MegaVolt> si^: the flxgr driver cant work with dri (afaik)
[08:19] <si^> MegaVolt: i run Kubuntu 6.10 + ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run [ method: http://forum.ubuntu.ro/viewtopic.php?id=1355 ]  + Radeon 9100 @ 128 MB
[08:19] <aro> Kubuntu, are you being serious or just trolling?
[08:19] <jubuntu> (II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull!
[08:19] <Kubuntu> I'm serious!
[08:19] <beau> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17093/
[08:19] <si^> MegaVolt: so what i have to do to make it running 3D games, cedega etc...?
[08:20] <aro> Kubuntu, this is the last time I'm going to say this, go to http://www.google.com and search for programming tutorials
[08:20] <Arwen> si^, buy an nvidia card..
[08:20] <photon> Kubuntu: gcc -o mybin sourcefile.c
[08:20] <jubuntu> si^: did you check this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:20] <aro> photon, he doesn't know what that means, he types it verbatim
[08:20] <jubuntu> 3d ati works just fine
[08:20] <si^> Arwen: i'm really thinking about this :( i spent whole day
[08:20] <si^> lsmod|grep fglrx
[08:20] <si^> fglrx                 406988  0
[08:20] <si^> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,via_agp
[08:20] <MegaVolt> si^: the ati driver should provide all the functionality of dri by itself
[08:20] <MegaVolt> si^: sadly it doesnt do a good job at it ... the ati driver simply sucks ... id never buy an ati card because of that ;)
[08:20] <Kubuntu> gcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory
[08:20] <Kubuntu> gcc: no input files
[08:21] <aro> photon, see
[08:21] <Kubuntu> That happens!
[08:21] <aro> Kubuntu, www.google.com
[08:21] <si^> fglrxinfo
[08:21] <si^> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:21] <sylvisj> ok! so
[08:21] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[08:21] <BluesKaj> telling him to buy nvisdia doesn't help his immediate problem
[08:21] <MegaVolt> si^: nothing, the fglrx driver alone is capable of running 3d games
[08:21] <Kubuntu> nvida rules
[08:21] <jubuntu> all i had to do was to run "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[08:21] <si^> jubuntu: i set that initial....
[08:22] <BluesKaj> si^, why are you fooling with the bios for dri anyway ?
[08:22] <sylvisj> The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[08:22] <hendaus> i am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy?
[08:22] <MegaVolt> si^: by the way: world of padman rulez
[08:22] <Kubuntu> jubuntu what is jubuntu?
[08:22] <sylvisj> can anyone help?
[08:22] <Arwen> si^, that means your fglrx isn't running
[08:22] <si^> i have that:
[08:22] <si^> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo
[08:22] <si^> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[08:22] <si^> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[08:22] <sylvisj> please?
[08:22] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:22] <Arwen> you have to have a vendor string like "ati tech X1950XT" or something
[08:22] <jubuntu> what ati card do you have?
[08:22] <si^> BluesKaj: to run KDE... because when i set AGP aperture to 128 MB it hangs...
[08:23] <BluesKaj> well, don't
[08:23] <si^> Arwen: yeah but i set it in my xorg.conf
[08:23] <nvon> hi all
[08:23] <frojnd> I don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???
[08:23] <Arwen> si^, make sure there are no references to "driver ati" or "driver radeon"
[08:23] <Kubuntu> What programs burns cds in kubuntu?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> si^, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797
[08:24] <si^> Arwen: in xorg.confg?
[08:24] <sylvisj> The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[08:24] <sylvisj> I'm given taht error by xinit
[08:24] <sylvisj> My X is apparently quite borked
[08:24] <Arwen> si^, yes
[08:24] <sylvisj> Can anyone help me fix it?
[08:24] <si^> so i have to disable "ati" driver?
[08:24] <feldegast> Kubuntu use k3b
[08:24] <Kubuntu> Don't use NVIDA drivers they break x!!
[08:24] <si^> and just leave fglrx ?
[08:24] <Arwen> replace all references to "driver ati" with "driver fglrx"
[08:24] <Kubuntu> Thenks
[08:24] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:24] <Arwen> and make sure there's only one device entry
[08:24] <sylvisj> Kubuntu, wtf?
[08:25] <si^> i have ati + fgrlx in xorg.conf
[08:25] <Kubuntu> I installed the Nvida driver, it broke x!
[08:25] <sylvisj> but really, can anyone help me out?
[08:25] <frojnd> I don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???
[08:25] <BluesKaj> Arwen,, that doesn't work on some Ati cards
[08:25] <feldegast> nvon sounds like you have a firewall blocking things
[08:25] <Arwen> BluesKaj, eh?
[08:25] <si^> wait i'll pastebin my xorg.conf
[08:25] <sylvisj> What the hell should I use if not nvidia drivers?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> si^, check this site out .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797
[08:26] <Leckey> nvidia-glx-new
[08:26] <feldegast> sylvisj u can use nv drivers....
[08:26] <nvon> feldegast: i uninstalled guarddog and firestarter and clamav. and also it works for ~2 minutes. if it were a firewall, it shouldn't work at all, i think
[08:26] <sylvisj> Leckey, why those over the nvidia binaries?
[08:26] <Kubuntu> No NVIDA drivers is BADD!
[08:27] <feldegast> nvon ok that doesn't sound like a firewall....
[08:27] <nvon> :-)
[08:27] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:27] <maki> help
[08:27] <si^> Arwen: BluesKaj MegaVolt here is my conf: http://tinyurl.com/2yw3y5
[08:27] <sylvisj> Kubunt, and the reason is...
[08:28] <sylvisj> Leckey, after an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, still getting the same error
[08:28] <Leckey> have you edited your x11 conf?
[08:28] <sylvisj> It's set to use the nvidia driver if that's what you mean
[08:28] <Leckey> yeah :(
[08:28] <Arwen> si^, Section "Device"	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R200 QM [Radeon 9100] "	Driver      "ati"	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"EndSection - try putting "fglrx" instead of "ati" here
[08:29] <Leckey> what card you got?
[08:29] <Arwen> make sure to back up though
[08:29] <sylvisj> 8800gts
[08:29] <MegaVolt> si^: remove the option "dri"
[08:29] <sylvisj> I'm just gonna see what envy can do
[08:29] <Kubuntu> I got 3.4 ghz CPU!
[08:29] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:29] <soon> anyone familiar with NFS using the KDE System Settings gui??
[08:29] <Arwen> si^, oh wait, your card is 9100? fglrx doesn't support it anymore
[08:29] <Leckey> I setup drivers for my 7300 GO today
[08:29] <sylvisj> that's great, I'm surprised your prescott hasn't suffered SPDS yet
[08:29] <si^> yes 9100
[08:29] <si^> but i use older driver
[08:29] <si^> 8.28.8
[08:29] <hendaus> i am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy? please
[08:30] <sylvisj> wow
[08:30] <sylvisj> envy fixed it
[08:30] <Arwen> si^, huh, you know that r200 is full support by open driver, right?
[08:30] <sylvisj> Id unno how
[08:30] <si^> i tried envy too... same effect
[08:30] <Leckey> could have got the official drivers from nvidia site
[08:30] <Leckey> instead of using the repository
[08:30] <BluesKaj> si^, change composite to  "0" in the Extensions section
[08:30] <sylvisj> Leckey, those didn't work either
[08:30] <sylvisj> those were my first attempt
[08:30] <Leckey> ah
[08:30] <sylvisj> and god damn it
[08:30] <si^> BluesKaj: 0 != Disable ?
[08:30] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, it should be "disable"
[08:30] <sylvisj>  this got me further
[08:30] <conchi> hola
[08:30] <sylvisj> but still isn't working
[08:30] <hendaus> helpers how can i see the version of my kubuntu?
[08:30] <Kubuntu> use the nv drivers!
[08:31] <conchi> only english??
[08:31] <si^> Arwen: so u think i should put there fglrx instead of ati ?
[08:31] <sylvisj> 2d is bad
[08:31] <sylvisj> 3d is good
[08:31] <Kubuntu> You can't remember?
[08:31] <MegaVolt> anyone knows how to fix a broken apt-get /aptitude? :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html
[08:31] <Leckey> we like fps > 2 Kubuntu
[08:31] <Arwen> si^, yeah, try it - but make sure to backup xorg.conf first
[08:31] <MegaVolt> (happens at dist-upgrade)
[08:31] <LeXxiK> Can anyone help me with VPN in Feistier? I must install pptp-linux and network-manager-pptp, but my internet only from vpn
[08:31] <LeXxiK> I've downloaded these packages separately, but they do not exist, dependency problems.
[08:31] <BluesKaj> he has the same card I use Arwen and my dri and fgl_glxgears works fine
[08:31] <jubuntu> sudo apt-get -f install
[08:31] <Kubuntu> I also like FTP!
[08:31] <si^> Arwen: ok give me a minute i'll check this
[08:31] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: i also had troubles with network-manager and vpn, i switched to kvpnc
[08:32] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: imho the better program by far
[08:32] <LeXxiK> hm
[08:32] <hendaus> helpers i want help!!!
[08:32] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:32] <Arwen> si^, oh wait, sorry, it should be composte 0
[08:32] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: never got the network-manager to work properly, cant really help you with that sorry ;) did try for about a day
[08:32] <Arwen> composite 0*
[08:33] <sylvisj> Can someone paste their Device sectino from xorg.conf?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> Composite "0"
[08:33] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:33] <esben> hendaus: If /etc/apt/sources.list contains the name "feisty" you are on feisty. If edgy, edgy :)
[08:33] <Arwen> sylvisj, why? it won't apply to your system
[08:34] <MegaVolt> sylvisj: http://rafb.net/p/F5nXov68.html
[08:34] <sylvisj> i just needed the BusID part, which I found
[08:34] <sylvisj> for the BusID line
[08:34] <MegaVolt> why bus id?
[08:34] <ralph_> hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?
[08:34] <sylvisj> maybe specifying the correct bus ID would help. no.
[08:34] <LeXxiK> MegaVolt: Thanks
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  i have mde
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  i have kde
[08:35] <sylvisj> This is just damned annoying now
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  what is the code to show me the version
[08:36] <sylvisj> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)
[08:36] <BluesKaj> si^, there is a new fglrx driver out on the AMD website
[08:36] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:36] <ralph_> hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?... I get only a cursor after activating...
[08:37] <esben> hendaus: Open console, and enter "uname -a". If the result is something contains "2.6.20-15-generic " you are on feisty
[08:37] <esben> hendaus: "Konsole", I meant
[08:38] <MegaVolt> nvon: happened to me too, solved it by editing the /etc/network/interfaces and removing the "/&%&"$ network manager
[08:38] <sylvisj> I need help
[08:38] <MegaVolt> apt-get remove --purge network-manager ;)
[08:39] <nvon> MegaVolt: i have done that. and still nothing :-(
[08:39] <MegaVolt> :( not good
[08:40] <sylvisj> unbelievable
[08:40] <MegaVolt> can you pastebin your interfaces ?
[08:40] <sylvisj> nv is working
[08:40] <sylvisj> but nvidia isn't
[08:40] <sylvisj> Wtf
[08:40] <sylvisj> Wtf-city
[08:41] <MegaVolt> sylvisj: did you try the nvidia auto-setup tools? nvidia-glx-config or nvidia-xconfig
[08:41] <sylvisj> Yeah
[08:41] <snap> ok who wants to help me get beryl working?
[08:41] <sylvisj> anything using the nvidia driver gave me a dirty error
[08:41] <nvon> MegaVolt: i am on win now, but if i remember, it's auto eth0, static, 10.0.0.1 gateway: 10.0.0.138 mask: 255.0.0.0
[08:41] <MegaVolt> 10.0.0.1 ? whats unusual
[08:41] <hendaus> esben, it shows this Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:41] <MegaVolt> -w+t
[08:42] <Rictoo> I'm on frozen-bubble, and I got a friend on, but he says he is on a server with 8 ppl
[08:42] <hendaus> esben,  coz my ktorrent is 2.1 and i need the new one
[08:42] <Rictoo> but there isn't a server with 8 people
[08:42] <Rictoo> are theyre different master servers?
[08:42] <Rictoo> :S
[08:42] <nvon> MegaVolt: adsl modem is 10.0.0.138 so i set my comp to 10.0.0.1
[08:42] <sylvisj> holy jumping jesus this is aggrivating
[08:43] <Graham> sylvisj: You've just topped my list of wierd things to hear when joining an IRC channel.
[08:43] <dhorn> Hey, does anyone know how to change the text color on kicker in elegant mode?
[08:43] <esben> hendaus: You are still on Edgy then. Time to upgrade?
[08:43] <sylvisj> Graham: A wine crash killed my nvidia
[08:44] <sylvisj> Graham: Expect to hear weird things fueled by anger
[08:44] <hendaus> esben,  can u please give me the update link coz i am newbie on this
[08:44] <Graham> sylvisj: Have you tried restarting X?
[08:44] <tmbg> nvon, I'm having network issues as well. some sites time out that work from other computers. no idea why yet
[08:44] <sylvisj> . . .
[08:44] <feldegast> dhorn wish i knew, i'd change it
[08:44] <sylvisj> About 12 times
[08:44] <sylvisj> I had to switch to the nv driver to get it to work
[08:44] <sylvisj> nvidia driver died hard
[08:44] <sylvisj> or so it seems
[08:45] <dhorn> feldegast: it's so annoying, I want a dark background but I can't get the text color to change
[08:45] <esben> hendaus: 1) Start adept 2) Press the update buttom 3) Press the upgrade buttom. After either 2 or 3, a dialog should appear. Follow it
[08:45] <olimilo> anyone have any idea where i can get the latest version of bcm43xx-fwcutter for amd64? bcm43xx.berlios.de is offline
[08:45] <Graham> Have a look through your xorg.conf file. Were you running the wine app as root?
[08:45] <sylvisj> xorg.conf looks fine. No, wine was not run as root.
[08:45] <Graham> What errors are you getting?
[08:46] <sylvisj> one sec
[08:47] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:48] <wolferine> how can I get another app to release control of my webcam?
[08:48] <feldegast> wolferine you can kill the app....
[08:48] <nvon> no answer : - (  thanks anyways. bye
[08:48] <Graham> nvon:
[08:48] <wolferine> i dont know which is using it
[08:49] <m0rra> i finished installing kubuntu about 20 minutes ago. however, apt-get update fails with error 111 (yes, it is trying to connect to the official mirrors, not localhost or firewall)... i don't have any proxy software installed either, because i just installed it (tried removing them too just in case, but none of them were installed) i disabled ipv6 (yes, i restarted the computer after it). also, apt-get works fine under Debian. any ideas how to fix it?
[08:49] <ubuntu_> how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?
[08:49] <wolferine> i want to reset the webcam
[08:49] <feldegast> nvon are you using dhcp? i'd try disabling that if you are
[08:49] <sylvisj> Graham: envy is cleaning driver install
[08:49] <nvon> i disabled dhcp. still nothing
[08:49] <Graham> Why don't you be specific, you come in and say "my internet's not working" and you're telling us nothing useful.
[08:49] <qsu> my god, it seems that ubuntu/kubuntu feisty has a lot of bugs
[08:49] <feldegast> nvon can you ping localhost/your router?
[08:49] <Graham> Don'y disable DHCP, if you've not got a static IP you need DHCP
[08:50] <ubuntu_> how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?
[08:50] <qsu> with mount ubuntu_
[08:50] <nvon> can ping localhost. router and inet only for the first few minutes. then i can't even ping router
[08:50] <ubuntu_> not working
[08:50] <benbread> hey i'm doing a edgy to feisty upgrade using the upgrade tool, but download has stalled on fetching file 59 - what can i do?
[08:50] <si^> BluesKaj: which one?
[08:51] <feldegast> can you ping local host when you can't ping the router?
[08:51] <Graham> ubuntu_: sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[08:51] <ubuntu_> never had any luck upgrading to another version
[08:51] <voicu> ubuntu_: sudo mount -t ext3/ntfs/etc /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[08:51] <ubuntu_> yes thank you
[08:51] <nvon> yes. can ping localhost always
[08:51] <voicu> note that /media/hda1 has to exist
[08:51] <Graham> ubuntu_: What he said.
[08:51] <si^> MegaVolt: BluesKaj: i tried that setting which arwen said same effect. after KDe is loaded all hangs i can only move mouse
[08:51] <ubuntu_> yeah, thanks
[08:52] <si^> maybe it's conflict soundblaster with radeon? :/
[08:52] <ubuntu_> I nknow what it looks like, but dont know it by heart
[08:52] <ubuntu_> yet
[08:52] <si^> i hear kubuntu start sound and all freeze
[08:52] <nvon> feldegast: yes. can ping localhost always
[08:52] <sylvisj> wait
[08:53] <sylvisj> one second
[08:53] <voicu> ubuntu_: man mount gives you more information. you can get help on any command that way
[08:53] <ubuntu_> oops, also, what is the command to find the address of my hard drive?
[08:53] <sylvisj> Graham: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error).
[08:53] <ubuntu_> just type in mount?
[08:53] <voicu> ubuntu_: man mount
[08:54] <voicu> man stands for 'manual'
[08:54] <m0rra> or could my ip be banned from a repository? (i'm on an university campus and share this one with at least 500 other people)
[08:54] <Graham> sylvisj: I'm thinking you should take it out and put it back in again.
[08:54] <ubuntu_> oh I thought you were saying     Man, mount is cool.  (slang)
[08:54] <sylvisj> the card?
[08:54] <ubuntu_> I gotcha now
[08:54] <m0rra> and when i tried mplayer's repository, it worked. but ubuntu ones still give me error 111
[08:55] <nvon> bye all
[08:55] <Graham> Yes.
[08:55] <sylvisj> (EE) failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[08:55] <sylvisj> Card's fine on windows dude
[08:55] <voicu> ubuntu_: you could try 'ls /dev/hd*'. and see what partitions you have
[08:55] <sylvisj> wtf is wfb?
[08:55] <sylvisj> I just noticed it
[08:55] <bobbob1016> anyone have bcm43** working in Feisty with wpa?
[08:55] <wolferine> how can I get another app to release control of my webcam?
[08:55] <beggi> hello
[08:55] <Graham> bobbob1016: No, use ndiswrapper
[08:56] <Graham> sylvisj: I'm thinking that could be your problem.
[08:56] <voicu> ubuntu_: or even better 'ls /dev/hd??'
[08:56] <bobbob1016> Graham: and it works with wpa?
[08:56] <beggi> hello!!!!!!
[08:56] <Graham> But your xorg.conf file into pastebin
[08:56] <Graham> bobbob1016: wpa?
[08:56] <bobbob1016> Graham: wpa security on the wireless
[08:56] <voicu> begii: hello :)
[08:56] <madmike> good morning er... afternoon here in ca
[08:56] <Graham> Yes
[08:56] <voicu> good evening :D
[08:56] <beggi> im kinda new to linux
[08:56] <beggi> hi
[08:57] <Graham> WHAT!??
[08:57] <Lam_> will kubuntu live cd work fine if i burn it to a 4x cd-rw?
[08:57] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[08:57] <Lam_> i understand it'll be slower on load
[08:57] <Graham> Lam_: Bullshit, it'll take ages to burn but it's the read speed that matters.
[08:57] <beggi> funny
[08:57] <benbread> Lam_: I burnt kubuntu to a cd-rw once and it didn't like it very much...
[08:57] <voicu> lam_: if the cd reads it, it will work. the speed should be the same
[08:58] <Graham> beggi: What do you want?
[08:58] <ubuntu_> 4x is only burn speed
[08:58] <Graham> That's what I said!
[08:58] <ubuntu_> the read speed is determind by your drive, however fast it is
[08:59] <voicu> this type of questions will never go away...
[08:59] <ubuntu_> I dont see how it will load any slower
[08:59] <Lam_> oh really. ok i'll give that a try with the cd-rw then. thanks a lot for the input guys
[08:59] <benbread> I've worked out the dist upgrade tool can't connect to some resp's - can i tell it to skip them or look someware else?
[09:00] <tmbg> benbread, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <sylvisj> Graham: http://pastebin.ca/453074
[09:00] <benbread> tmbg: heh - i got that part, i just don't know what the other sources to use are :P
[09:01] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:01] <crackhead_25> question: how can one know if one has flash player 9? how does one make sure to get/install flash player 9? (i've tried both the adobe flash player and the mozilla plugin from adept)
[09:02] <benbread> crackhead_25: are you using firefox?
[09:02] <voicu> ubuntu_: if you mount something not in fstab you must put all the details. that is 'mount -t <file system> <device> <directory>'
[09:02] <Graham> sylvisj: Tried reinslalling all the nvidia packages on Adept?
[09:02] <aro> Is the resolution and aspect ratio of the display in the Live CD a reflection of how it's going to look after full installation?
[09:02] <sylvisj> nope
[09:02] <ubuntu_> sorry, newbie here, that was in the clouds
[09:02] <aro> I ask because the Live CD isn't detecting the proper resolutions on my monitor
[09:02] <thcmonkey> kubuntu doesn't seem to allow me to resize my windows partition on install. anything i'm missing?
[09:02] <crackhead_25> firefox, yes
[09:02] <m0rra> so. where do i have to report, that a mirror is down?
[09:02] <crackhead_25> must i alter the self-identify of firefox? is it just not communicating that i have flash 9?
[09:03] <benbread> aro: You should be able to change it through the system settings
[09:03] <crackhead_25> benbread: why do you ask?
[09:03] <aro> benbread: I know, but the proper resolutions are not available there.
[09:03] <Graham> crackhead_25: One must point their browser to about:plugins
[09:03] <benbread> crackhead_25: When you visit a page needing flash plugin it should ask you if you want to install it, that's how i got Flash 9
[09:03] <benbread> aro: What graphics card, and what resolution are you currently in?
[09:04] <aro> benbread: Geforce 7600GT, 1152x864, but it's not allowing me to choose wide resolutions, my monitors aspet ratio is 16:9
[09:05] <benbread> aro: You might need to reconfigure x
[09:05] <aro> benbread: This is a Live CD, do you think after full installation I will have better luck?
[09:05] <adaptr> aro edit xorg.conf and enter the resolutions you want
[09:05] <thcmonkey> when i choose partition #1 and use freed space it tell me no root file system is defined
[09:06] <sylvisj> Graham: doesn't even look like the nvidia module is loading
[09:06] <sylvisj> lsmod | grep nv shows nothing but libata and sata_nv
[09:06] <m0rra> Thanks for no help, everyone. Well, at least I got mine fixed. Good luck to the rest of you, who might not be so lucky... (By the way, some of your mirrors are down.)
[09:06] <Graham> I don't know, my cards shit anyway.
[09:07] <Graham> I don't know much about other cards.
[09:07] <sylvisj> well
[09:07] <sylvisj> the driver module isn't loading
[09:07] <aro> thcmonkey: click the partition, click edit partition, then designate the mount point as /
[09:08] <thcmonkey> will it delete my windows guff though?
[09:08] <benbread> aro: You'll certainly have more luck fixing it
[09:08] <shawn34> can't find the md5sums on ubuntu site? anyone know where they are?
[09:08] <benbread> or at least trying
[09:08] <aro> thcmonkey: as long as you are using a partition that windows does not reside on
[09:08] <Graham> Search google for those modules it said it wasn't loading.
[09:08] <aro> thcmonkey: do you have a separate partition just for linux setup?
[09:09] <snap> there anything like camtasia for linux?
[09:10] <benbread> snap: vncrec?
[09:10] <thcmonkey> nah you see, i thought i could do that on install
[09:10] <aro> thcmonkey: you can make new partitions at install
[09:11] <thcmonkey> but it seems not to allow me becuase windows is using all available space
[09:11] <ubuntu> Kampioenen OLE OLE
[09:11] <aro> thcmonkey: well, yea, you need free space
[09:12] <benbread> thcmonkey: Have you done a defrag on the windows partition?
[09:12] <snap> thanks benbread ill look for it
[09:12] <thcmonkey> benbread: nah
[09:13] <benbread> thcmonkey: I seriously suggest you do - windows file systems generally have data spewed all over the place that might stop you from partitioning
[09:13] <sylvisj> graham, reinstalled nvidia binaries
[09:13] <sylvisj> gonna reboot
[09:13] <sylvisj> something will hopefully automagically fix
[09:13] <Graham> Wait
[09:13] <thcmonkey> cheers dude
[09:13] <Graham> Change your driver to nvidia for the reboot.
[09:13] <sylvisj> I did.
[09:14] <sylvisj> I dont' even f*cking believe this, black screen.
[09:14] <crackhead_25> how do i know which installation path is the correct one for the firefox i have installed? i see a /lib/usr/mozilla, ../firefox, and ../mozilla-firefox.. ??
[09:15] <crackhead_25> sylvisj: try alt + F6 or F7 or F8.. your Xorg may have shutdown, or you may need to switch to another instance
[09:16] <sylvisj> xorg died, went to 1
[09:16] <sylvisj> xorg is dying and I dunno wy
[09:17] <_StefanS_> hmm anyone with fglrx and compiz/beryl working on feisty?
[09:17] <_StefanS_> can't get beryl-manager to work
[09:17] <sylvisj> this makes no sense
[09:18] <sylvisj> the log is fine
[09:18] <sylvisj> hmm
[09:18] <sylvisj> last entry in the xorg log is (II) Initializing extension GLX
[09:18] <sylvisj> literally nothing after
[09:18] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: what driver? nvidia, fglrx, or open stuff?
[09:18] <sylvisj> nvidia
[09:18] <_StefanS_> dmesg ?
[09:19] <_StefanS_> lsmod|grep nvidia ?
[09:19] <_StefanS_> maybe its not loaded correctly
[09:19] <sylvisj> nvidia 6837140 0
[09:19] <sylvisj> agpart 35400 1 nvidia
[09:19] <_StefanS_> hum..
[09:19] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: are you using the restricted drivers ?
[09:20] <sylvisj> [ 16.804000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[09:20] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: or did you download them yourself?
[09:20] <sylvisj> I'm trying nvidia's binaries
[09:20] <Arwen> wtf, fglrx can't do opengl and xvideo at the same time... now that's really lame
[09:20] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: thats normal
[09:20] <_StefanS_> Arwen: fglrx generally is lame.
[09:20] <_StefanS_> Arwen: would rip it out if I had the possibility
[09:20] <Arwen> _StefanS_, yeah.... I need it to get 3d at acceptable levels though
[09:21] <Arwen> anyway, gonna test for the hibernate bug
[09:21] <Arwen> will return
[09:21] <sylvisj> this is so damn annoying
[09:21] <kalorin> sylvisj: well, the ATI drivers aren't a lot less annoying
[09:21] <si^> aro:
[09:21] <sc0tch> I'm having some strange lockups upon disconencting usb devices from a feisty install on VMWare, is there a "safe" disconnect for usb devices? (like windows "eject" usb)
[09:21] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: you should install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:21] <kalorin> I've got an nvidia card at work and spent a good while trying to get it to work again
[09:21] <si^> ups
[09:21] <_StefanS_> sc0tch: donno, but I have had no issues with that in the latest vmware 6.0rc1
[09:22] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: , done, what now
[09:23] <widde> blub
[09:23] <aro> Am I allowed to use a USB drive for the root partition?
[09:23] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: nvidia-settings, hmm can anyone help here ?
[09:23] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: cant remember, but you need to prepare X to use that nvidia thing.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:24] <qsu> stein
[09:24] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: select nvidia in there, but I'm not sure
[09:24] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: btw, you need to reboot first.
[09:25] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: search the ubuntuforums
[09:26] <_StefanS_> aro: I'm not sure it will work as USB AFAIK not enabled until later in the boot
[09:27] <_StefanS_> anyone with a working beryl and fglrx?
[09:27] <sylvisj> beryl, yes, fglrx, fck ATi
[09:29] <sylvisj> holy jesus
[09:29] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: ??
[09:29] <sylvisj> lightning just struck my lawn
[09:29] <sylvisj> and guassed my m onitor
[09:29] <ufuk> hii
[09:29] <sylvisj> and scared me shtless
[09:29] <Last_Hero> has anyone had trouble getting Thunderbird to connect to Hotmail?
[09:30] <sylvisj> lightning gaussed my monitor
[09:30] <sylvisj> hwo many people can say that
[09:30] <Cable86> how do i configure konversation to automatically identify me when i connect?
[09:32] <Last_Hero> !thunderbird
[09:32] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[09:32] <tecie1980> Is it possible to migrate a software RAID5 that's formatted ext3 in which all of the drives are intact to another system? I'd like to upgrade to the latest version of kubuntu but that sometimes requires me to reinstall the OS and I want to make sure I have a recovery plan.
[09:32] <sylvisj> ok
[09:33] <sylvisj> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9755. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version
[09:35] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a standalone equalizer for ubuntu?
[09:38] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: hey you should remove the old driver first
[09:41] <sylvisj> I did >.<
[09:42] <snap> how do i switch between different desktops such as from gnome to KDE.....have both installed
[09:42] <USMarine> snap X session in kdm
[09:42] <blekos> ok, i have a rather silly question, why kcontrol isnt available as a menu but I had to search on the internet and find out that it exists?
[09:42] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:42] <snap> youll have to be a lil more elaborate ......dunno what that is but thx
[09:43] <blekos> certain option aren't available on the system settings
[09:43] <USMarine> snap browse the menus while you're in kdm
[09:43] <USMarine> you'll find it
[09:43] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: and you did install of the restricted drivers ?
[09:43] <_StefanS_> snap: K-Menu -> System settings
[09:44] <snap> K-menu?
[09:44] <sylvisj> if you meant that apt-get, yes
[09:44] <USMarine> blekos you can always run kcontrol in a terminal
[09:44] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: that was it, yes.
[09:44] <USMarine> if the shortcut is not avaiable
[09:44] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:45] <blekos> i know and I do so, but would be better for newbies to have imediate access to it?
[09:45] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: bottom left
[09:45] <USMarine> blekos the shortcut is created after the installation
[09:45] <_StefanS_> snap: bottom left
[09:45] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: sorry not for you
[09:45] <blekos> sorry but i dont get ur point
[09:46] <snap> i have a desktop button (im still in gnome)
[09:46] <blekos> i have a fresh install of Kubuntu, no shortcut for it in the kMenu
[09:46] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: that gives me the damned failed to load module "wfb" error
[09:46] <Last_Hero> anyone know why the defauly POP3 and IMAP ports would be blocked, stopping me from accessing my e-mail via Thunderbird?
[09:46] <USMarine> system settings
[09:46] <USMarine> could be that too
[09:46] <_StefanS_> snap: err.. preferences ? :)
[09:46] <_sledge_> What's the tool called again that profiles disk activity when operating on batteries?
[09:47] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: hmm oka. Let me find a guide for it. You're on feisty and kde , right ?
[09:47] <USMarine> _sledge_ power manager iirc
[09:47] <DeckardJK> can anyone at all help me with a mouse question?  I'm running kubuntu 7.04.  In system settings changing the mouse acceleration doesn't do much.  The mouse just doesn't move across the screen fast enough for me
[09:47] <sylvisj> yes
[09:47] <snap> Stef: i have stuff to change screen res under prefferences but nothing lets me switch from kde from gnome and back
[09:47] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: you're using a laptop I imagine ?
[09:48] <DeckardJK> stefan: yep
[09:48] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: with multiple mouse like devices ? .. synaptic and usb mouse ?
[09:48] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: 2secs
[09:48] <DeckardJK> stefan:  I don't have multiple mice plugged in... I only want to use the touchpad
[09:49] <snap> i did manage to get MT4 working under wine and i got networking working with windows boxes
[09:49] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: do sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:49] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:49] <roguejedix> Erm, could anyone tell me why my DVDs won't mount?
[09:49] <_StefanS_> aro: wont the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic do it for you?
[09:49] <snap> but for the life of me i cant find "system settings"
[09:49] <aro> Is that the one named "nv"
[09:49] <_StefanS_> snap: your're in gnome ?
[09:49] <aro> In my xorg.conf
[09:49] <snap> yes setfan
[09:49] <snap> stefan* sorry
[09:50] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: and now?
[09:50] <aro> If so, no, because I cannot choose widescreen resolutions from System Settings
[09:50] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: reboot
[09:50] <melkor> Is there still a 'feisty' specific channel?
[09:50] <_StefanS_> aro: yes
[09:50] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: now?
[09:51] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: yes, to make sure they are not loaded anymore.
[09:51] <snap> when i had suse installed i could flip back and forth to 4 different x windows desktops point and click
[09:51] <sylvisj> I meant what now
[09:51] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: oka, did you reboot?
[09:51] <sylvisj> yes
[09:51] <melkor> I just did the fiesty upgrade on my laptop and now it hangs when booting at 'configureing consol and keymap'
[09:51] <melkor> er my desktop
[09:52] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: : and it didn't complain, or tried to load the nvidia modules anymore, right ?  (dmesg, lsmod|grep nvidia
[09:52] <Jacko2007> I am trying to connect to the internet wirelessly but kubuntu isn't finding any devices
[09:52] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: is that a synaptics?
[09:52] <sylvisj> nvidia modules not loaded
[09:52] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: is that a synaptics ? (dmesg|grep -i synaptics)
[09:52] <melkor> any suggestions, I can use a cd to get to the hard drive, but its an edgy cd.
[09:52] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: good. 2 secs.
[09:53] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: there's a specific tool for tuning the touchpad
[09:53] <DeckardJK> stefan:  not exactly sure
[09:53] <DeckardJK> I ran that command and that didnt' return any results
[09:54] <Jacko2007> StefanS: do you know how to get a my laptop to connect wirelessly when it;s not detecting a netowrk
[09:54] <_StefanS_> sylvisj:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:55] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: oka, what laptop ? Dell ?
[09:55] <DeckardJK> Stefan:  yeah its is a dell 600m
[09:55] <snap> Holy Jumping jesus (thanks for that line sylv) i found it.......it is under system/preferences/preferred applications
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Jacko2007: what wireless card do you have, and did you install the restricted drivers?
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> I can't use vi
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> driving me crazy
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> how do you type a 0 (zero)
[09:56] <Graham> Kubuntu_noob: original name, use nano
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: hehe.. always the case first time you use vi.
[09:56] <snap> oh no wait thats not it
[09:56] <_StefanS_> nano is better
[09:56] <blekos> how is it possible in gnome to be able to set alt+shift to change language and KDE not to accept it?
[09:56] <_StefanS_> for newbies ;)
[09:57] <Kubuntu_noob> case?
[09:57] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: checking the specs
[09:57] <DeckardJK> stefan:  thanks a lot
[09:57] <WannabeNewbie> I have lost all sound, can anyone help me? I was messing around with the settings on KMIX and then bam! no sound, and I can't seem to get it back.
[09:57] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: seems like its an Alps Glidepoint
[09:58] <TheCreationist> Is anyone else having a problem with sound in Feisty?  I've tried all the troubleshooting tips I could find and still have no sound...
[09:58] <WannabeNewbie> TheCreationist: I have no sound either
[09:58] <ober0ne> I like how busy this channel always is
[09:58] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[09:58] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: its busy alright
[09:59] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: what soundcard?
[09:59] <melkor> If I use a cd and 'rescue a broken system' then I get to a root shell on my original hard drive ... what would apt-get do?  Modify my system or ?
[09:59] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It's an onboard (Intel ICH5, I believe)
[09:59] <DeckardJK> stefan:  thanks much... I'll read things over and see if I can't tweak things
[09:59] <WannabeNewbie> And I am using Nvidia
[09:59] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It is detected properly by aplay and the mixer...
[09:59] <braveheartlionXP> I'm currently on the WinXP computer that I want to instnall ubuntu 7.04 on. I don't want to waste a(nother) CD to burn an ISO to. Is there a way I could somehowe install Ubuntu directly on this computer, without using a CD?
[09:59] <sylvisj> i know this is pretty off topic, but how do I get amarok to play mp3s? :(
[09:59] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: have you unmuted it in the alsamixer?
[09:59] <ober0ne> so anybody else ever have trouble installing vlc on dapper?
[10:00] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: Of course :P
[10:00] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: I myself have forgotten that alot of times ;)
[10:00] <WannabeNewbie> sylvisj: I got it to play mp3 by using synaptic manager, install all drivers
[10:01] <WannabeNewbie> sylvisj: plugins rather
[10:01] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: does the system settings -> notifications play at all ?
[10:02] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: I'm actually in Gnome right now, but I've done the "Test Sound" button in KDE without any luck.
[10:02] <WannabeNewbie> StefanS: I am having similar issue, I have absolutely no sound.
[10:02] <_StefanS_> sorry
[10:02] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: did you get nvidia drivers installed yet ?
[10:02] <sylvisj> still working on it
[10:03] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It's alright... I haven't seen ANY forum posts or talk in here of anyone figuring it out... but I've seen a LOT of people with the same problem since upgrading to Feisty.
[10:03] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: oka, this might help aswell: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html#more-141
[10:03] <TheCreationist> brb... I can't stand gnome... gonna switch to KDE.
[10:03] <WannabeNewbie> TheCreationist: Mine was working until I messed with Kmix, then nothing. But no matter what I do in kmix now, seems to fix it
[10:04] <TheCreationist> ahh... much better
[10:04] <Kubuntu_noob> Anybody have a ThinkPad 600E?
[10:04] <WannabeNewbie> did you get it to work?
[10:04] <Kubuntu_noob> Or near to it?
[10:04] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: thats really wierd, I have not had any issues with my two laptops at all. Just for the fun of it, have you tried renaming ~/.kde to see if its some settings thats corrupted ?
[10:04] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: I guess a T60p is not close enough ;)
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> yes would be
[10:05] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: have a T42 also though..
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> I can't get sound to work
[10:05] <WannabeNewbie> is there a command one can put into Konsole that will force the sound driver to default?
[10:05] <_StefanS_> argh.. more sound stuff :)
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> You have cs4236 sound chips or whatever?
[10:05] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: I have a non-sound related problem... if you'd like a change ^_^
[10:05] <_StefanS_> WannabeNewbie: just try renaming your .kde directory in your homefolder and login again
[10:06] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: please :)
[10:06] <ober0ne> lol
[10:06] <JagerX> anyone know how to turn the tooltips off?
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> My sound doesn't work at all since install kubuntu alternate
[10:06] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: nope ICH7..
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> soundchips?
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> ICH7 ?
[10:06] <ober0ne> can't seem to install any packages... my system is afraid I will break it
[10:06] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: I doubt it's a ~/.kde issue... it doesn't work in gnome either.
[10:06] <ober0ne> bloody paranoid, it seems
[10:06] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: oh, I wasn't aware of that.
[10:06] <TheCreationist> ober0ne: lol... what does it tell you?
[10:06] <WannabeNewbie> StefanS: That is beyond my ability, I'm fairly new to this and obviously have made a simple mistake into more than it should be...LOL!
[10:07] <ober0ne> ermm... hold on - I will check it out
[10:07] <Kubuntu_noob> bummer
[10:07] <_StefanS_> argh :)
[10:07] <WannabeNewbie> LMAO! Your right
[10:07] <_StefanS_> Atleast I try :)
[10:07] <WannabeNewbie> That you have
[10:07] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: Thanks for trying, at least ;)
[10:08] <melkor> ls
[10:08] <tmbg> ok this is getting seriously annoying. on feisty all of the network applications time out. I've rebooted this machine, the router, etc. everything can resolve, but it times out after that.
[10:08] <tmbg> the only sites I can get to are ones that I've been to before that are bookmarked like google.
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Well I actually managed to get sound working on a EPIA EX board in feisty... thats some achievement
[10:08] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: "There was an error committing changes. It's possible that  there was an error downloading some of the packages, or  that the commit would break other packages"
[10:08] <ober0ne> I'm on dapper, btw
[10:09] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: ok you could fix that probably doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:09] <ober0ne> will try
[10:09] <WannabeNewbie> Trying it now
[10:09] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: then it should continue, and you can check the logfile in /var/log/dpkg
[10:10] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: I always avoid adept for that reason .. it doesn't really give a whole lot of information :)
[10:10] <ober0ne> do I want to allow system wide readable home directories?
[10:10] <WannabeNewbie> yes
[10:11] <TheCreationist> Hey... will deleting entried from the K menu also remove them from the menus in gnome?
[10:11] <WannabeNewbie> upto you really
[10:11] <maki> when i try to upgrade it give's me this The following packages have been kept back:amarok amarok-xine k3b kaffeine libavcodec0d skype
[10:11] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: dont know.
[10:11] <_StefanS_> maki: you're missing a dependency package
[10:11] <ober0ne> see, mainly I want VLC... but it gives me that error message when I try to install anything
[10:12] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: did you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first ?
[10:12] <ober0ne> I don't remember... I know I have done that in the last few days, but I've also done a fresh install
[10:12] <_StefanS_> maki: try install one at a time to see which one is wrong
[10:13] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: doesn't hurt to do it again.
[10:13] <ober0ne> ok
[10:13] <maki> i make dist-upgrade now
[10:13] <_StefanS_> maki: ah, and you added some more repositories ?
[10:14] <maki> yes
[10:14] <_StefanS_> maki: oka you should use medibuntu, did you add that ?
[10:14] <maki> i have the repos from the wiki
[10:14] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:14] <maki> and i add 3 repos from a local server
[10:14] <ubuntu_> what am I doing wrong?
[10:15] <ubuntu_> I am trying to access my HDD via live cd
[10:15] <sylvisj> ok
[10:15] <sylvisj> I found the issue
[10:15] <sylvisj> it's trying to use legacy drivers
[10:15] <sylvisj> How do I purge all apt files?
[10:15] <Lars_G> hello ALL
[10:15] <sylvisj> all things downloaded by apt anyway
[10:15] <Lars_G> hehehe :(
[10:16] <Lam_> what package do i need to make deb files from source files?
[10:16] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:16] <Kubuntu_noob> can any help with basic script to run at startup
[10:16] <Lars_G> Anyhow, I'm trying to get the kubuntu dvd iso with bittorrent (feisty love) but every time it finishes (I use ktorrent) I manually run a "check data integrity" and it always finds from 400 to 600 incorrect blocks and starts redownloading
[10:16] <Lars_G> is someone feeding broken blocks into the stream, or what
[10:17] <Kubuntu_noob> i got started in /.kde/Autostart chmod +x
[10:17] <Kubuntu_noob> but it doesn't do what in the file
[10:17] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:17] <Lars_G> And please what's the md5 on the i386 kubuntu feisty dvd iso? so I can double check
[10:17] <ubuntu_> I am trying to access my HDD via live cd
[10:17] <ubuntu_> what am I doing wrong?
[10:17] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: if it's a primary master, try hda1 not hdb1
[10:17] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: sudo update thing output: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:18] <Lars_G> ubotu: if the hdd is there, try with sudo.
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: ah that might be some of the trouble
[10:18] <Lars_G> GAH
[10:18] <ubuntu_> still no go
[10:18] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:18] <ober0ne> so what can I do?
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: just remove the country in front of the repos in the sources.list
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: might help
[10:18] <ubuntu_> still nothing
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: dmesg|grep hd
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: dmesg|grep sd
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: that should reveal any available drives
[10:19] <ubuntu_> both commands?
[10:19] <Kubuntu_noob> help
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes
[10:20] <ubuntu_> wow yea, that get all the info
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: see if you can identify the drive there
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: might be named sda1 or something
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> how do I begin line 2 in a #!/bin/sh script?
[10:21] <ober0ne> ok, trying that
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: shift+a <enter>
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: that will leave you in insert mode
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> I mean just <command>
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> or does each line begin with something specail
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: esc+i to go into insert mode
[10:22] <Kubuntu_noob> then how do I make my script Columbia.sh run to test it
[10:22] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: only the first line is like that because it tells the shell what to run
[10:22] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: still the same error
[10:22] <blixter> Hi! I have KDE installed now and i want to install Gnome on it using a Alternate CD. How do i do that?
[10:22] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: do you even have internet access ? :D
[10:23] <Kubuntu_noob> so line 2 might be exactly "iwconfig ath0 mode Managed"
[10:23] <makuseru> !dialup
[10:23] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:23] <_StefanS_> blixter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? :)
[10:23] <ober0ne> lol, I should... bell told me I downloaded 350GB last month when I was using microsod products
[10:23] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: yes.
[10:23] <blixter> ok
[10:23] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: then make it executeable afterwards chmod +x Columbia.sh
[10:23] <Kubuntu_noob> ok how do I get it to run   allready did chmod +x Columbia.sh
[10:24] <makuseru> !kppdialup
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kppdialup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: ./Columbia.sh
[10:24] <tmbg> someone msg me if they have the slightest clue how to fix my feisty network woes. thanks.
[10:24] <makuseru> !kpp
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <_StefanS_> tmbg: what was the issues ?
[10:24] <tmbg> I can't connect to half of the web sites out there.
[10:24] <tmbg> gaim can't connect to yahoo
[10:24] <_StefanS_> tmbg: wrong dns ?
[10:24] <ubuntu_> 67.779353]  hdb: ST3250823A, ATA DISK drive
[10:24] <tmbg> adept updater can't finish the updates, times out.
[10:25] <ubuntu_> isnt that a slave drive?
[10:25] <tmbg> I checked dns, works. and when I resolve from a different machine and then plug in that ip, it still times out.
[10:25] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes should be
[10:25] <ubuntu_> I only have one drive installed
[10:25] <ubuntu_> why is tha?
[10:25] <_StefanS_> tmbg: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller
[10:25] <_StefanS_> sorry
[10:25] <_StefanS_> ubuntu: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller
[10:26] <ober0ne> :D
[10:26] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems like you have local  issue
[10:26] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: already have that ;)
[10:26] <ubuntu_> I'm a newbie, it's not healthy to get this confused
[10:26] <ober0ne> heh... I don't have any coffee yet
[10:26] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:26] <tmbg> the weird bit is when I connect from my router (openbsd sparcstation) everything works fine.
[10:26] <tmbg> the only part that changed was upgrading to feisty
[10:27] <_StefanS_> tmbg: have you tried an open dns of some sort ?
[10:27] <tmbg> tried rebooting feisty, obsd, nothing. still broken.
[10:27] <ubuntu_> feisty still to buggy
[10:27] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: in what respect?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> most people I talk to doesnt reccomend upgrading to it
[10:28] <tmbg> _StefanS_, the dhcpd on the obsd machine passes the same dns it  uses to the clients, the feisty box is using the very same dns server.
[10:28] <Graham> I do.
[10:28] <tmbg> it can resolve IP's no problem.
[10:28] <ubuntu_> really?
[10:28] <oliver_> hello
[10:28] <Graham> Fiesty hasn't given me one problem yet.
[10:28] <tmbg> it times out when I try to connect to servers.
[10:28] <blekos> does anybody know the combination to switch to tty4 etc
[10:28] <ubuntu_> wow, your the first I have heard say that
[10:28] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: gues it depends who you are, and what you need
[10:28] <ubuntu_> yeah, true
[10:28] <Graham> My hardware is old and shit though
[10:28] <tmbg> well I need my damn network to work.
[10:29] <tmbg> and it doesn't
[10:29] <Graham> Type of network?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> Graham: mine is new shit, and still works fine.
[10:29] <ubuntu_> what do you consider old?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> tmbg: are you using some kind of wireless ?
[10:29] <Graham> I consider 6 years old.
[10:29] <oliver_> when I am trying to connect to a wireless network it says Configuring device and then fails what should I do
[10:29] <tmbg> all hard wired.
[10:29] <Graham> In respects to PC hardware.
[10:29] <_StefanS_> tmbg: duplex issue ??
[10:29] <dope> hey buddies
[10:29] <tmbg> xover cable into the sparcstation, out of that into the cable modem.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> ok, no arguement here
[10:30] <tmbg> possibly. how do I c heck duplex? it's not in ifconfig that I can see
[10:30] <_StefanS_> tmbg: just guessing, that usually causes wierd problems
[10:30] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:30] <dope> i got a laptop and 6.10 kubuntu had a hard time with wpa.  ultimately it never worked.  is feisty better with that?
[10:30] <_StefanS_> tmbg: what driver?
[10:30] <ober0ne> *sigh* how did I get the only buggy version of dapper?
[10:30] <tmbg> it's an nforce4 onboard ethernet
[10:30] <Graham> dope: Yes, I recommend you upgrade.
[10:30] <_StefanS_> dope: I use wpa and wpa2 on two laptops, dell and ibm
[10:30] <ubuntu_> I ahve heard that  is leaps and bounds over dapper
[10:30] <_StefanS_> dope: a whole lot of stuff happened to networkmanager in feisty
[10:30] <Graham> Infact WPA didn't give me any problems on Edgy.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> I have dapper and want to leap and bound
[10:31] <_StefanS_> Graham: worked for my too
[10:31] <ober0ne> lol, me too
[10:31] <tmbg> the obsd sparcstation side is connected at full duplex.
[10:31] <dope> Graham: teach me to get it to work plz
[10:31] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: why dont you upgrade that to feisty or something?
[10:31] <dope> Graham: maybe it's just my wireless card crap!
[10:31] <ober0ne> I'm going to, as soon as I get the cd
[10:31] <Graham> Maybe if you told me what it was I could help.
[10:31] <_StefanS_> dope: most wireless cards are crap.
[10:31] <ubuntu_> still need help with my HDD, cant get it mounted
[10:31] <_StefanS_> dope: thats why they're cheap.
[10:31] <tmbg> _StefanS_, forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.59.
[10:32] <_StefanS_> tmbg: ah ok, try using ethertool
[10:32] <tmbg> ?
[10:32] <_StefanS_> tmbg: or miiconfig
[10:32] <dope> Graham: i got an averatec 2370.  not sure what the card is
[10:32] <dope> Graham: i believe the driver name starts with a rt
[10:32] <dope> :D
[10:33] <Graham> Sorry, that's a failure.
[10:33] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: I tried to download and burn the iso of feisty from dapper, and it doesn't want to
[10:33] <dope> i'm a failure? :O
[10:33] <Graham> Whats it's chip?
[10:33] <dope> that's what she said!
[10:33] <dope> lemme look
[10:33] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: nothing really works in your end I see :D
[10:33] <Graham> Do lspci
[10:33] <dope> i'm in windows right now
[10:33] <ober0ne> that's what it feels like
[10:33] <Graham> Is it a PCI card?
[10:33] <tmbg> _StefanS_, I don't have ethertool or miiconfig. I have mii-diag and mii-tool. do you mean one of these?
[10:33] <dope> it's a rittle raptop
[10:33] <_StefanS_> tmbg: yep that was them
[10:34] <tmbg> don't ask me to download anything or use apt, because it will time out.
[10:34] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems like mii-tool will do it for the nforce network driver
[10:35] <akIra83> hi
[10:35] <tmbg> sudo mii-tool \ SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported \ no MII interfaces found
[10:35] <beau> hi all i just downloaded a new window decoration ok its in archive format..where do i extract it to to make it useable?
[10:35] <ubuntu_> !pastebin
[10:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <enemyz> Im having trouble installing feisty. Im currently using Hoary Hedgehog and tryed to upgrade to feisrty, but I kinda killed the xserver in the process :P,
[10:36] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17114/
[10:36] <akIra83> i have a notebook with a touchpad, and every 7-8 seconds the mouse is frozen (<1sec) anyone have an idear ?
[10:36] <ubuntu_> somebody tell me what command I need to mount this HDD
[10:36] <beau> mnt
[10:36] <ubuntu_> seeing the link provided above
[10:36] <beau> or mount
[10:37] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: mkdir /tmp/hdb1 && mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb1
[10:37] <enemyz> anyway, my computer cant read the boot CD I make from the feisty iso. I tryed w differnet CDs. Anyone else having this problem, or is a problem with my burner?
[10:38] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: sudo before that
[10:38] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems the nforce ethernet driver is not very supported on mii-tool
[10:38] <tmbg> sigh. networking worked fine on edgy.
[10:39] <tmbg> now I can't even get to cnn.com
[10:40] <_StefanS_> tmbg: uhm.. dont know, sorry.
[10:40] <tmbg> but I can to google.com or places i've been before. it's really weird. I can resolve cnn.com, but I can't go there, it times out
[10:40] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: do you already have an installation of linux ?
[10:40] <tmbg> yeah it's an odd problem. incredibly frustrating, odd, problem.
[10:41] <_StefanS_> tmbg: does regular downloads work ?
[10:41] <enemyz> tmbg: can you "dig" the adresses?
[10:41] <dope> yea i've no idea what my wireless card is
[10:42] <enemyz> of the pages that doont load?
[10:42] <tmbg> _StefanS_, huh? enemyz: just a second.
[10:42] <snap> hmm i thought i had switched to kde but it only made the login screen blue and pretty.......then put the old orange gnome desktop over it.......i dont get it
[10:42] <tmbg> enemyz, yes.
[10:42] <enemyz> tmdg: but the browser dont load them?
[10:43] <enemyz> tmdg: try timing the dig..
[10:43] <ober0ne> is there a utility for extracting rar files in Kubuntu?
[10:43] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: unrar ? :)
[10:43] <tmbg> browser times out, gaim times out for yahoo, adept updater times out
[10:43] <ober0ne> well, that's what I want to do... yes... is there a utility?
[10:43] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_: yes I do...  Dapper
[10:43] <tmbg> timing dig? when I type it, it comes back instantly. what do you mean?
[10:44] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[10:44] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: oka and you have a harddrive on usb also ?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_:  no, I am on a live cd trying to access my HDD
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: did you try that command I sent you ?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes I know that.
[10:45] <ubuntu_> didnt work
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb1' doesn't work ?
[10:46] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: pastebin the results
[10:46] <tmbg> ok, this is really weird. I try to ftp to ftp.freebsd.org to test and get this: ftp> ls \ 550 Data connection must go to same host as control connection. \ ftp: bind: Address already in use
[10:46] <_StefanS_> tmbg: I think you have duplicate ip
[10:46] <_StefanS_> tmbg: but not sure ofcourse
[10:46] <ubuntu_> mount: mount point /tmp/hdb1 does not exist
[10:46] <sylvisj> I've never been so happy to see a 22,000 glxgear score in my life
[10:47] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: good, do: 'sudo mkdir /tmp/hdb1'
[10:47] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: and then the previous command again
[10:47] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: you got it working ? :)
[10:47] <tmbg> there are just the two machines on the network. the obsd router and the feisty desktop
[10:47] <tmbg> router is 10.1 desktop is 10.10
[10:47] <cornelinux> Hello, how can I change the look and feel og the login mask?
[10:47] <_StefanS_> tmbg: netmask 255.255.255.0 ?
[10:48] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: Nope, I can get 22,000 glxgears scores from terminal :P Yep, thank you VERY much
[10:48] <ubuntu_> ooo, look like it did something
[10:48] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: no problem
[10:48] <ubuntu_> yes, it worked
[10:48] <ubuntu_> thank you
[10:48] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: there's a thememanager for that
[10:49] <tmbg> yes. netmask on both is /24
[10:49] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: :)
[10:49] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_: that worked, thank you.
[10:49] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: remember to umount /dev/hdb1 before rebooting !
[10:49] <cornelinux> _StefanS_: I tried to change it in kcontrol, but is stays the same
[10:49] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: uhm ok, are you using gdm or kdm ?
[10:49] <_StefanS_> tmbg: freakin' weird I say
[10:50] <tmbg> tell me about it.
[10:50] <_StefanS_> tmbg: whats the firewall on the obsd box?
[10:50] <ubuntu_> would you recommend Feisty over Edgy (other than the knowledge of it being newer)
[10:50] <_StefanS_> tmbg: I have a freebsd with monowall and it works fine
[10:50] <cornelinux> _StefanS_: Using the original kubuntu kdm
[10:50] <tmbg> pf. I verified it's operating correctly.
[10:50] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes definitely
[10:50] <tmbg> I haven't changed anything at all on the obsd machine. only change was 'upgrade' to feisty
[10:51] <ubuntu_> hmmmm, even for me that has to have help for little stuff like this mounting crap?
[10:51] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: well normally you would just click next and so on for installation.
[10:51] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: seems more like you were in a rescue-cd mode there
[10:52] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: because that what one would do to access the hd if you have a broken system.
[10:52] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> oh no i can install no problem
[10:52] <sound_fx> I just upgraded to Feisty, and there is this upward scrolling black garbage that appears on my screen. I can still see everything, it is just annoying. Any suggestions?
[10:52] <mazzo> hY ALL
[10:52] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: so the usplash doesnt work for you ?
[10:53] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: append quiet to the kernel boot parameters
[10:53] <ubuntu_> oh never mind, I'll try it
[10:53] <melkor> feisty wont boot up, when I do an apt-get install -f it has a list of problems any suggestions
[10:53] <sylvisj> Beryl mauls my fps
[10:53] <sylvisj> from 22k to 7k in glxgears :(
[10:53] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: beryl is still alpha stuff :D
[10:54] <sound_fx> _StefanS_ do that in grub, right?
[10:54] <sylvisj> I know
[10:54] <sylvisj> but I'm still a beryl addict
[10:54] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: well yep
[10:54] <sound_fx> ok
[10:54] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: but the boot logo should be there default, did you remove it ?
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: dont know if that will help
[10:55] <sound_fx> _StefanS_: I have a boot logo, and I boot fine into Kubuntu, just on my screen there is this constant garbage... Looks like flickering black text scrolling up in the middle of my screen.
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: I remember using it before where it worked just fine
[10:56] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: ah, well maybe your graphics adapter is not too well supported
[10:56] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: did you install the nvidia/ati drivers?
[10:57] <sound_fx> _StefanS_: I didn't have this problem before upgrading to Feisty.
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: well I heard that alot today. Why did you upgrade ? :)
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: just kidding.. it should work
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err, did that command help at all?
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg...
[10:57] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ Well but it is already configurable in KDE. In KControl->System->Login-Manager. It works in a normal KDE i.e. under any distribution. Only kubuntu seems to disable changing the look and feel of the Login Window
[10:58] <apus> whats the kde ftp client
[10:58] <Kyral> apus: Konq has a built in client
[10:58] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: please file a bug on launchpad then
[10:58] <apus> kyral is it as good as filezilla
[10:58] <sound_fx> Admiral_Chicago: I believe I tried that already, it didn't seem to help.
[10:58] <Kyral> apus: I dunno, I never used filezilla
[10:58] <mefisto__> I just upgraded to feisty, and can't keep kicker from crashing. Anybody have any suggestions?
[10:59] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: tried removing kickerrc ?
[10:59] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ I won't do this since I do not want to generate an account to be able to issue a request :(
[10:59] <apus> kyral filezilla is flawless
[10:59] <Kyral> apus: Flawless is in the eye of the user :P
[10:59] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: try to ask in #kubuntu-devel then
[10:59] <mefisto__> _StefanS_: no. Where do I find it?
[11:00] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[11:00] <ubuntu_> where is the mozzila folder usualy at? (trying to backup bookmarks)
[11:00] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: if that doesn't work try renaming your ~/.kde directory
[11:00] <Kyral> ubuntu_: ~/.mozilla
[11:00] <Skrot> hi, is adept_manager the only graphical software for package installation in kubuntu feisty?
[11:00] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ OK, thanks
[11:00] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: locate is your friend
[11:00] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: try Riddell in there
[11:01] <Skrot> nevermind
[11:01] <_StefanS_> Skrot: synaptic is also one alternative
[11:01] <insmod> i installed the kubuntu and it killed my laptop mouse pad -- the mouse won't work with any live cd or install -- any ideas?
[11:01] <Kyral> Or just use Apt-Get from the command line...
[11:01] <_StefanS_> insmod: what laptop ?
[11:01] <ubuntu_> wow, didnt know that was a command
[11:01] <peanutb> I am trying to install Kubuntu alternate on a Hp laptop (about 5 years old, 256mb ram) and it keeps halting just before detecting the keyboard layout
[11:01] <insmod> _StefanS_: acer
[11:01] <ubuntu_> sweet
[11:02] <cornelinux> _SefanS_ thx
[11:02] <Kyral> ubuntu_: No need to ask locate, I told you were it is
[11:02] <ubuntu_> I know, I just learned a command though
[11:02] <Riddell> _StefanS_: yours https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/109061
[11:02] <_StefanS_> insmod: well I probably need a little more than that to help you :)
[11:02] <ubuntu_> :o)
[11:03] <insmod> _StefanS_: acer travelmate 2480
[11:03] <Kyral> BTW using slocate is a little more secure in practice
[11:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oh there you were :)
[11:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I will look into it, along with the mail you sent
[11:03] <ubuntu_> hmm, ok,  what is the s for?
[11:04] <blekos> hi i cannot add any policy to firestarter any ideas?
[11:04] <sound_fx> _StefanS_: Well, noone seems to be active on the #kubuntu-devel, you recommended I get the ati drivers?
[11:04] <ubuntu_> The file or folder ~/.mozzila does not exist.
[11:04] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: you could try that yes
[11:05] <apus> does anyone here use xbc
[11:05] <_StefanS_> insmod: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Acer_TravelMate_2480, I think its a synaptic touchpad. Check dmesg|grep -i synaptic
[11:05] <apus> xbmc
[11:05] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: ~/.mozilla
[11:05] <_StefanS_> apus: did once
[11:06] <apus> _StefanS_: do you remember the default ftp login
[11:06] <_StefanS_> apus: oh...
[11:06] <_StefanS_> apus: hmm
[11:06] <etalli> What do I need to add to my xorg.conf file to get a 1280x800 resolution?
[11:06] <slow-motion> n8
[11:06] <_StefanS_> apus:xbox :D
[11:06] <_StefanS_> apus: http://www.command-tab.com/2006/12/21/mac-meet-xbox-part-3/
[11:07] <mefisto__> _StefanS_: tried renaming kickerrc, then tried renaming ~/.kde but kicker still crashes
[11:07] <insmod> _StefanS_: any idea ?
[11:07] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: sorry donno
[11:07] <apus> _StefanS_: thats what i was afraid of
[11:07] <_StefanS_> etalli: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <_StefanS_> etalli: enable the resolutions in there
[11:08] <_StefanS_> insmod: check if its detected in the dmesg|grep synaptic
[11:08] <_StefanS_> gotta go to bed now
[11:09] <_StefanS_> good night.
[11:09] <etalli> Thanks
[11:10] <apus> i thought this was supose to be a stable os
[11:11] <ian_> riiight
[11:11] <Kyral> Compared to XP.....
[11:11] <ian_> my xorg.conf just shagged itself
[11:12] <apus> kyral, Im having more problems with this than xp
[11:12] <apus> open office doesn't even work
[11:12] <Kyral> apus: How long have you been using Linux? :P
[11:12] <apus> kyral: on my box a week, at work, 3 years
[11:12] <Kyral> mkay never mind
[11:12] <insmod> _StefanS_: nothing
[11:12] <Kyral> Try another distro?
[11:12] <ian_> Kyral: whats the command to re-run the nvidia x11 config setter upper :D
[11:13] <apus> its the software not the distro
[11:13] <Kyral> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <Kyral> apus: Stability can change across distros
[11:13] <Kyral> OO.org 2.2 runs fine here on Arch
[11:13] <apus> kyral I have a particular document that crashes oog
[11:14] <Kyral> If its that ONE document
[11:14] <Kyral> what does that tell you? :P
[11:14] <apus> it opens in ms office
[11:14] <Kyral> Is it a .doc?
[11:14] <apus> yes
[11:14] <Kyral> Then of COURSE it opens in MS Office!
[11:14] <apus> my optical output doesn't work, even though it sees my card correctly
[11:15] <Kyral> To me half the fun of Linux is that nothing is certain
[11:15] <apus> I can't access any mouse settings, so I cant map the buttons to do what I want (forward back in firefox for example)
[11:15] <Kyral> So everyday there is a chance I'll learn something new
[11:15] <apus> beryl doesn't display the matlab window correclty
[11:15] <Kyral> Does Matlab use Java?
[11:15] <ejm> is there a way to start the old-school installer on the ubuntu cds, or do I have to download the alternative cd?
[11:15] <apus> no
[11:16] <apus> kopete doesn't let me add myself to my buddy list
[11:16] <Kyral> hmm I was about to say, Swing doesn't like Beryl
[11:16] <apus> there is no peergaurdian .... whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyy
[11:16] <Kyral> apus: You have two options
[11:16] <Kyral> Peergaurdian?
[11:16] <apus> only 2?
[11:16] <Kyral> ?????
[11:16] <Kyral> What
[11:16] <apus> google it
[11:16] <Kyral> .......
[11:16] <Kyral> ...........
[11:17] <apus> .............
[11:17] <apus> ejm, not that I know of
[11:17] <apus> ouch
[11:17] <ejm> ok
[11:17] <apus> ejm why do you need the alternate install
[11:17] <apus> kyral why?
[11:18] <zblach> I'm sure it's just a setting somewhere, but I get an extract right-click menu for .tgz and .zip, how do I add one for rar archives?
[11:18] <ejm> I'm not sure. I got a grub error 17 when installing ubuntu,.
[11:18] <ejm> when actually, the installer quit about 83%, and it balied out on me.
[11:18] <ejm> no errors or anything.
[11:18] <Kyral> Why what?
[11:18] <apus> walk away
[11:18] <Kyral> I wanted to know what it was b/c if it was some Windows only thing...
[11:18] <zblach> ejm: grub error 17 != no errors
[11:18] <apus> its a windows only thing that SHOULD be on linux
[11:18] <ejm> what's that mean?
[11:18] <apus> the project was closed for some reason
[11:19] <Kyral> apus: Then it ain't our fault
[11:19] <zblach> ejm: grub error 17 means a corruption of the boot partition.
[11:19] <Kyral> If something is Windows only we can't do jack **** about it
[11:19] <ejm> ok
[11:19] <ejm> I got it.
[11:19] <apus> http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
[11:19] <Shaddox> cept hope it's open source and hope someone knows how to port it ^^
[11:19] <Kyral> It's open source..I looked on the Wikipedia page
[11:19] <Kyral> Now its a matter if anyone wants to do it
[11:20] <etalli> My monitor's native resolution is not listed under the list for resolutions.  What do I need to add to my xorg.conf file to have a 1280x800 resolution?
[11:20] <Kyral> Interesting license choice
[11:20] <Kyral> !fixres
[11:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:20] <Kyral> GPL or the ZLib/libpng license?
[11:20] <ubuntu_> anyone know where the bookmarks are saved in firefox?/
[11:20] <Kyral> ubuntu_: .firefox something
[11:21] <apus> maybe it can run in wine?
[11:21] <apus> will it still have access to the low level nic functions like ip blocking
[11:21] <Kyral> apus: and I walked away so I wouldn't go into BOFH mode
[11:21] <apus> bofh?
[11:21] <zblach> how can I add commands to a right-click menu?
[11:21] <zblach> i.e. Extract to rar archives
[11:22] <Kyral> Bastard Operator From Hell: Aka the Anti-Help
[11:22] <leleobhz> someone know if kubuntu DVD can be burned in DAO mode?
[11:22] <apus> so if I fix all those things I mentioned, it would be much better
[11:22] <apus> like, moust driver that works
[11:22] <apus> mouse*
[11:22] <Kyral> apus: Then find out how to fix them. Search forums, consult documentation
[11:22] <apus> same with sound card, although I am impressed that with no driver install that the sound card even works
[11:23] <adaptr> oh there's a driver
[11:23] <adaptr> lsmod | grep snd
[11:23] <apus> my onboad lan, my soundcard, and my mobo require manually installed drivers in windows
[11:23] <Kyral> People who are experianced with Linux don't keep it all in their heads. We just bookmark the documentation :D
[11:23] <apus> but I dont even know where to go for that stuff
[11:24] <Kyral> Google ;P
[11:24] <ejm> don't you love it when you forget to copy all your files you need before you blow everything?
[11:25] <zblach> i lost many gig of 'documents' a few times doing that
[11:25] <adaptr> apus learn a few tools early, and they will save your bacon every time: lsmod, lspci, dmesg
[11:25] <Kyral> grep....
[11:25] <ejm> makewhatis
[11:26] <zblach> |
[11:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, how's the grep command work?
[11:26] <Kyral> that's usually already setup as a cronjob no?
[11:26] <apus> what tools are those
[11:26] <Kyral> ...anyone have a link to my old Terminal For Beginners?
[11:26] <apus> so when the manufacturer has no drivers, then what
[11:26] <adaptr> then you look at the kernel drivers - in fact, you look there FIRST
[11:26] <Kyral> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885&highlight=Terminal+For+Beginners
[11:27] <ejm> Do yourself a big favor (and I mean it in a good way, not in a mean way), and see if the local college offers a linux course you could take.
[11:27] <adaptr> BluesKaj it works very well, thank you
[11:27] <Kyral> apus: Read that link
[11:27] <Kyral> (Actually anyone who wants a primer to the shell read that link)
[11:27] <apus> ejm, my university does nothing with linux unless its red hat enterprise, they wont even let me ask questions about terminal commands unless Im using it
[11:27] <adaptr> !rute
[11:27] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:27] <ejm> that's what I did, and I learned stuff like grep, ls, cp, changing owners/groups/permissions.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> adaptr:  :), but how is it used ?
[11:27] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[11:27] <adaptr> BluesKaj erm.. pretty much however you want
[11:27] <Kyral> Damn...I'm STILL getting thanks on that thread
[11:27] <apus> we use linux for programming a lot, so I know a lot more commands than a stranger
[11:28] <Kyral> and I haven't touched it in over a year!
[11:28] <ejm> actually, apus, that's the one my college used for the class--either red hat or solaris from the cde days.
[11:28] <apus> our university red had installs suck
[11:28] <Kyral> apus, BluesKaj: Are you reading that link I posted?
[11:28] <lupul> does anyone know a dc++ client? beside valknut
[11:28] <ejm> we hardly used the gui in the class. we basically used the cli or a terminal emulator.
[11:28] <adaptr> apus however, you do not know the commands that will help you here... try out the ones I gave earlier
[11:29] <Kyral> Okay basic grep operation
[11:29] <adaptr> BluesKaj I'm just not sure what you mean - what is it you want to do ? do you want a description of the command ?
[11:29] <lupul> cause right now the windows dc++ runing in wine works 3 times faster than valknut
[11:29] <Kyral> Pay attention 'cause I'm only saying it once
[11:29] <adaptr> Kyral drop the lecture, dad...
[11:29] <adaptr> :P
[11:29] <lupul> !dc++
[11:29] <Impaque> how do i *painlessly* upgrade to Feisty using the alternate CD?
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Kyral> grep <string you wanna find> <file to search>
[11:29] <Kyral> or
[11:29] <BluesKaj> man you guys need something to eat ...low bloodsugar or what ...why so grumpy ?
[11:30] <Kyral> <command that makes text input> | grep <thing to find>
[11:30] <ejm> don't make me get my pitchfork out!
[11:30] <BluesKaj> thx Kyral
[11:30] <Kyral> man grep for more!
[11:30] <lupul> painlessly you could use adept
[11:30] <adaptr> BluesKaj in case that is what you wanted, grep is used to search files for a particular matching regular expression - which is a fancy Unix way of saying "a complicated string match"
[11:30] <Kyral> -ELECTURE
[11:30] <Impaque> and PLEASE don't point me to the documentation because it simply.. doesn't work. there are some dependencies which have to be dealt with manually and apart of that, there is some really strange error on how python can't render the progress bar percentage...
[11:30] <Kyral> And I ain't the one to ask about Regexps
[11:31] <Kyral> my Regexps skills suck!
[11:31] <adaptr> but plenty of people here to ask
[11:31] <Impaque> lupul: adept will fetch everything from the internet, right?
[11:31] <lupul> yes
[11:31] <adaptr> you learn by necessity, usually :)
[11:31] <Impaque> lupul: or can i point it somehow to use the repository on CD?
[11:31] <apus> adaptr can you explain those 3 commands, im a super quick learner you can basically give me the supper short version and I will get it
[11:31] <lupul> i'm not sure
[11:31] <Kyral> which three commands?
[11:31] <lupul> but there is a line that you have to add in sources.list
[11:31] <adaptr> apus first off, have you run them yet ? if not, there's no point in me telling you anything until you have
[11:32] <lupul> and then enter adept and run dist upgrade
[11:32] <Kyral> lsmod: Lists all kernel modules currently inserted into the kernel
[11:32] <adaptr> apus lesson the first (note copying Kyral's tone here) is: Just Do It - you learn more that way :)
[11:32] <lupul> imapaque do you have cd or dvd with feisty?
[11:32] <lupul> *impaque
[11:32] <Kyral> dmesg: Dumps the kernel msg log. A lot of crap in there so pipe to less
[11:32] <Impaque> lupul: yes, i have the alternate CD right here.
[11:32] <adaptr> apus unless someone tells you to run sudo rm -rf /
[11:32] <apus> and for the record, man pages are horribly written
[11:32] <Kyral> DON'T!
[11:32] <Kyral> Good lord don't....
[11:32] <apus> lol
[11:33] <lupul> i recommand you to download the dvd and fully install it
[11:33] <ian_> apus
[11:33] <ian_> MOAN SOME MORE!11
[11:33] <apus> ian_ moan
[11:33] <ian_> you're like an old aged pensioner
[11:33] <adaptr> apus they're succinct, for good reason - they're references, not manuals (contrary to what you would think)
[11:33] <Kyral> I had an incident while writing Terminal For Beginners where someone actually did it because they saw it in a [code] [/code]  block
[11:33] <Kyral> without reading the surrounding text (Which was saying NOT to do it)
[11:33] <lupul> i have feisty but it doesn't use the repo on the dvd. still downloads from the internet. it's kind of stupid
[11:33] <BluesKaj> ian_: don't make fun of us old age pensioners
[11:33] <adaptr> lupul uncomment the DVD stanza in sources.list
[11:33] <ian_> <3
[11:34] <Kyral> and the manpages are perfect
[11:34] <adaptr> for various values of "perfect", yes
[11:34] <Kyral> Clear, consise, and to the point
[11:34] <lupul> everything is uncommented
[11:34] <etalli> Where can you change desktop effects settings?
[11:34] <adaptr> I oculd show you dozens that are neither, but that's not the point now
[11:34] <Impaque> having the update in mind, so far, i feel that kubuntu is just a "dirty hack" on ubuntu (gnome) default
[11:34] <Kyral> ....
[11:34] <apus> it took me 2 hours to realize there was no ls -# command to not flood past 1 screen of text and that I needed to | less
[11:34] <lupul> i tried gnome
[11:35] <aro> Impaque: that might be the wrong word to use
[11:35] <Graham> Impaque: I know what you mean.
[11:35] <lupul> not very friendly
[11:35] <aro> Impaque: since it doesn't apply at all
[11:35] <apus> simple things like that get really annoying when trying to troubleshoot
[11:35] <Kyral> The difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is merely the default DE
[11:35] <lupul> kde is more configurable. more hotkeys, easier to use etc
[11:35] <Kyral> Pull from the same repos...
[11:35] <adaptr> ..and a few other things
[11:35] <lupul> my opinion
[11:35] <zblach> shuttleworth has backed KDE, and not gnome. that may change soon?
[11:35] <Graham> Impaque: It is getting better though. more comfy in Feisty.
[11:35] <Kyral> So its more of a KDE vs. GNOME thing (Which we are NOT allowed to do)
[11:35] <apus> for example, what do you do if you need to kill a task, but when you -top it is so far down on the list its not vissible
[11:35] <zblach> **that ('dirty-hack' feeling) may change soon
[11:35] <adaptr> aouyou use htop
[11:35] <Kyral> apus: pstree -p
[11:36] <adaptr> apus you use htop
[11:36] <Kyral> or ps aux | grep processname
[11:36] <etalli> Where can you change desktop effects settings?
[11:36] <adaptr> zblach how oculd shuttleworth have backed KDE when Ubuntu was the first made ?
[11:36] <apus> see, thats the annoying thing for people that arn't pro, how many command must I memorize to see something like a task viewer
[11:36] <Kyral> Wait don't tell me Fiesty ships with Beryl activated...
[11:36] <adaptr> apus just one: install htop, use htop
[11:36] <aro> This channel is not a Desktop Environment debate place
[11:36] <adaptr> apus and if you're in the GUI just open the task viewer...
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[11:37] <Impaque> ok, first i needed to manually install python-gnupginterface, and then, whole python-gtk2, so i don't have to use the (buggy) KDE updater frontend, which can't "render percents on progressbar" let's see the GTK frontend ;)
[11:37] <ejm> #kdevsgnome
[11:37] <Kyral> (KSysGuard)
[11:37] <apus> there is a task viewer?
[11:37] <lupul> adaptr can you write me the line to add in soures.list to make feisty use the dvd repo?
[11:37] <Kyral> KSysGuard
[11:37] <Graham> apus: Press CTRL +ESC
[11:37] <_4strO> apus: ctrl-esc
[11:37] <adaptr> lupul no idea, no.. but it should have been included in the sources.list from the DVD, since that is how it was installed.. there is usually a sources.list.orig
[11:37] <apus> how was I supose to know that!?
[11:37] <shawn34> how has the feisty upgrade gone? any major issues so far with anything?
[11:37] <apus> is that in all distros or just kubuntu
[11:37] <lupul> well it isn't
[11:37] <lupul> on edgy there was
[11:38] <lupul> but here.. no sir
[11:38] <Kyral> Holy sh*t it works on Arch
[11:38] <Graham> apus: It's KDE, it's a shortcut you can change it in settings.
[11:38] <_4strO> apus: in looking in your shorttcults conf in the system settings
[11:38] <Kyral> it must be a KDE thing...
[11:38] <Kyral> Didn't know that
[11:38] <Kyral> (See you learn something every day :D)
[11:38] <apus> you all act like its obvious
[11:38] <adaptr> it is a KDE thing, yes
[11:38] <lupul> at least nvidia runs like hell
[11:38] <_4strO> ^^
[11:38] <Kyral> apus: I sure as hell didn't know about it until right now
[11:38] <lupul> i mean very good
[11:39] <zblach> all sorts of cool KDE things i've learned recently. F4 in konqueror, ctrl-alt-esc to kill by mouse...
[11:39] <zblach> any other cool ones?
[11:39] <_4strO> apus: its whenn you dont like clickodrome :p
[11:39] <Graham> apus: It is obvious, it's like ctrl alt del in Windows.
[11:39] <apus> adaptr: htop owns
[11:39] <apus> it should be default
[11:39] <ejm> yeah, I love the xkill app. it's such a killer app.
[11:39] <apus> graham no its not
[11:39] <Kyral> apus: No one is going to tell you all the fun stuff
[11:39] <Graham> apus: Yes it is, it's in the menu.
[11:39] <apus> graham in windows the first message you see is press ctl alt del to start
[11:39] <Kyral> Because half the fun in the fun stuff is finding said fun stuff
[11:39] <lupul> lol
[11:39] <Graham> On domain computers maybe.
[11:39] <Kyral> (Or writing your own...)
[11:39] <apus> or any non shitty install graham
[11:39] <_4strO> apus: looks like a presage :p
[11:39] <apus> presage?
[11:39] <Impaque> "AttributeError: KDECdromProgressAdapter instance has no attribute 'progressbar'" :(
[11:39] <adaptr> Graham on *all* computers - but not by default
[11:40] <lupul> is there any other dc++ client? beside valknut
[11:40] <zblach> Kyral: can you add stuff to right-click menus?
[11:40] <Kyral> zblach: Yah
[11:40] <zblach> lupul: dcpp
[11:40] <apus> graham: think of me what you want, but no, its not obvious
[11:40] <Graham> Infact it's more obvious, because ctrl+esc is in the shortcuts menu, and it says it opens the task controler.
[11:40] <lupul> zblach does it work well? comparing to valknut
[11:40] <apus> shotcuts menu?
[11:40] <Graham> In the settings menu.
[11:40] <apus> graham, isn't the deffinition of obvious is that non experienced people can figure it out?
[11:40] <_4strO> apus: predict
[11:40] <zblach> lupul: : i've not used dc++, just set it up for a friend.
[11:41] <lupul> aha
[11:41] <adaptr> apus no, that would be "easily discoverable"
[11:41] <adaptr> apus obvious is very subjective
[11:41] <apus> there is no shortcut menu in the settings
[11:41] <lupul> now i'm using the windows dc++ in wine and runs better a lot than valknut
[11:41] <apus> I looked through all the settings one of the first things I did
[11:41] <Kyral> zblach: They are called "Service Menus"
[11:41] <Kyral> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus
[11:42] <_4strO> apus: contry and language i think
[11:42] <zblach> i'm just looking to modify one. add the Extract menu to .rar files
[11:42] <MinceR> bye
[11:42] <Graham> apus: System settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Shortcuts.
[11:42] <Graham> It's just that easy!
[11:42] <kaneknows> Is it possible to use the oxygen icons in fiesty?
[11:42] <_4strO> oups
[11:42] <Kyral> kaneknows: The Oxygen people have explicitly stated they don't want Oxygen being used until KDE 4 is officially released
[11:42] <_4strO> apus the shortcuts are inthe keyboard and mouse settings
[11:43] <kaneknows> yeah i thought i heard something about that, but i saw some screen shots of someone rocking those icons with kubuntu 7.04
[11:44] <apus> I would hardly call it obvious still, I've used linux in a lab for 3 years, and no lab tech has ever used ctrl esc to fix a kill task issue
[11:44] <Kyral> Basically its because Oxygen is part of the "Bang!" of KDE4
[11:44] <kaneknows> yeah, i understand why they would want that.
[11:44] <Kyral> So I'd respect their wishes right now
[11:44] <Kyral> b/c KDE4 is gonna rock so hard it ain't funny :D
[11:45] <apus> kde4?
[11:45] <kaneknows> heh, it should be intresting at least.
[11:45] <ejm> it'll be a killer.
[11:45] <Morbo> KDE4 will be like the second coming
[11:45] <ejm> it'll be like whe kde2 was going to come out.
[11:45] <Morbo> All the evil sinners/followers of Gnome shall perish in its divine fire
[11:46] <ian_> Gnome isn't bad tbh
[11:46] <mattrperry1976> anyone have a way to stop beryl from running ?
[11:46] <Morbo> I know
[11:46] <apus> so what is dmesg exactly?
[11:46] <Morbo> I used gnome for a while, and I still like it a lot
[11:46] <ejm> I like e17
[11:46] <Jack313> Morbo, right click the red diamond and click quit
[11:47] <Jack313> ?
[11:47] <apus> so how do I access kernel drivers
[11:47] <kaneknows> i'm addicited to KDEs network transparency i cant work without it now.
[11:47] <mattrperry1976> what if by turning it on, your entire screen turns white and you can't "find" the icons etc?
[11:47] <apus> network transparency?
[11:47] <apus> mattrperry1976: kill the task?
[11:47] <Morbo> Jack313: Wrong person ;)
[11:47] <gioacchino> hello all
[11:48] <gioacchino> I have a problem
[11:48] <gioacchino> I have make a error...
[11:48] <mattrperry1976> how do I do that...I can't see anything on the screen?
[11:48] <gioacchino> I have deleted apllication panel
[11:48] <kaneknows> apus: all KDE apps will allow you to work across things like SFTP as if they were a local file.
[11:48] <Jack313> lol sorry morbo, i was just reading your conversation and not thinking
[11:48] <gioacchino> and now I don't see
[11:48] <mattrperry1976> and I'm not familiar enough with konsole commands to know how to do it manually etc?
[11:49] <gioacchino> the application runneing on the panel menu :(
[11:49] <gioacchino> how to reset to default configuration ?
[11:49] <apus> mattrperry1976: press ctrl alt f2 to open a console session
[11:49] <mattrperry1976> ok
[11:49] <mattrperry1976> then?
[11:49] <Jack313> isnt it like dmesg | grep beryl
[11:49] <mattrperry1976> the konsole opens, but I can't see it
[11:50] <Jack313> and then kill that proc id
[11:50] <apus> mattrperry1976: the console should be a full screen dos looking thing
[11:51] <apus> adaptr: does htop command (like f9 to kill) only work when not in a gui
[11:51] <adaptr> apus it will never work "in a GUI"
[11:51] <gioacchino> !kicker
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <mattrperry1976> ok got the console full screen and can see it now
[11:51] <Jack313> anyone have pics of this oxygen theme
[11:52] <_4strO> !launcher
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about launcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <gioacchino> please anybody halp me
[11:52] <_4strO> Jack313: google is your friend
[11:52] <_4strO> gioacchino: whats the matter ?
[11:53] <mattrperry1976> after I have the console open and full screen, what command to kill beryl, and/or make sure it doesn't keep starting itself at reboot etc?
[11:53] <blackd3ath> :D
[11:54] <_4strO> mattrperry1976: ps -A | grep beryl
[11:54] <_4strO> and then kill process n+
[11:54] <_4strO> and then kill process n
[11:54] <Lars_G> Shouldn't adept show me the option to upgrade version? (dist-upgrade)??
[11:55] <_4strO> Lars_G: it supposed too
[11:55] <aro> Anyone have a good link to a tutorial to setting up nvidia+beryl on feisty?
[11:55] <Lars_G> _4strO: it's not, ah well.
[11:55] <gioacchino> _4strO: my problem is this : for my mistake I have deleted apllication panel from my panel now I see as normal panel bt I not see the application in the panel...
[11:55] <gioacchino> :(
[11:55] <Lars_G> I'll use apt-get or the command line version, or synaptic
[11:55] <_4strO> Lars_G: have you refresh the repo ?
[11:55] <gioacchino> hot to reset to ddefault kde panel ?
[11:55] <blackd3ath> BERYL is bad
[11:56] <Lars_G> _4strO: bingo. thanks
[11:56] <aro> Thanks blackd3ath, but that wasn't my question
[11:56] <_4strO> gioacchino: klouncher &
[11:56] <Graham> blackd3ath: Shut up, beryl RULES! Admitedly I've never used it, but it still looks good.
[11:56] <_4strO> gioacchino: klauncher &
[11:56] <gioacchino> &
[11:56] <gioacchino> ??
[11:56] <apus> so how do I look at kernel drivers
[11:57] <_4strO> gioacchino: juste ctrl-alt + F7
[11:57] <_4strO> to return in KDE
[11:57] <blackd3ath> When I used a beryl my linux was crashed :(
[11:57] <_4strO> then alt+F2
[11:57] <_4strO> gioacchino: and konsole
[11:57] <sstchur> I'm really puzzled as to why my DLink wifi card works so much better under Windows than it does under Linux?  And not just a little bit better -- a lot better.  I had good success with ndiswrappers in Edgy, but it seems much less reliable in Feisty... anyone know why?
[11:57] <Lars_G> _4strO: if he's in console should be alt-F7 not ctrl-alt
[11:57] <gioacchino> I must restart kde ?
[11:58] <_4strO> gioacchino: nop
[11:58] <_4strO> Lars_G: somebody tols him to press ctrl-alt + F1 i though
[11:58] <_4strO> gioacchino: are you in KDE ?
[11:58] <gioacchino> yes
[11:58] <Lars_G> _4strO: yep, but once you're in console via ctrl-alt-f1 you return with just alt-f7
[11:59] <gioacchino> _4strO:  yes I am in kde
[11:59] <_4strO> gioacchino: have you an open konsole ?
[11:59] <gioacchino> yes
[11:59] <_4strO> Lars_G: didn't know :p
[11:59] <_4strO> gioacchino: klauncher &
[11:59] <Lars_G> _4strO: 2195 files to upgrade
[12:00] <_4strO> loool
[12:00] <_4strO> gioacchino: ?
[12:00] <Lars_G> Altough download is going very fast. I wonder if the upgrade tool comes with a similar code to netselect.
[12:00] <gioacchino> _4strO:
[12:00] <gioacchino> gioacchino@server:~$ klauncher &
[12:00] <gioacchino> [1]  7148
[12:00] <gioacchino> gioacchino@server:~$ klauncher: This program is not supposed to be started manually.
[12:00] <gioacchino> klauncher: It is started automatically by kdeinit.
[12:00] <_4strO> ok
[12:01] <PasNox> evening
[12:01] <Lars_G> _4strO: have him run kdeinit with alt-f2
[12:01] <Lars_G> _4strO: What's his problem anyhow?
[12:01] <_4strO> think just close and repoen the session will enough and easieer :p
[12:01] <_4strO> will be*
[12:02] <Lars_G> possibly
[12:02] <gioacchino> restart the session ?
[12:02] <_4strO> gioacchino: just close and repoen the session :p
[12:02] <gioacchino> ok
[12:02] <PasNox> feisty: i try to got working at same time ethernet and wifi, byt k(),etworkmanager seem to not active my etehrnet at statup, if i modify my /etc/network/interfaces, network go donw and not working, anybody can help please ?
[12:02] <PasNox> but (k)networkmanager*
[12:02] <mattrperry1976> _4strO...can't get your suggestion to work...any other ideas?
[12:03] <gioacchino> I have restart
[12:03] <apus> any good video format converters?
[12:03] <apus> I need a .mp4 to something that doesn't suck
[12:03] <gioacchino> _4strO: I have close and reopen session
[12:03] <lupul> where does dcpp install? anyone knows?
[12:03] <_4strO> gioacchino: and ? not ok ?
[12:03] <gioacchino> no
[12:04] <gioacchino> the problem stay
[12:04] <_4strO> gioacchino: i think i dont understand your pb
[12:04] <_4strO> mattrperry1976: ideas for what ?
[12:05] <gioacchino> 1) for a mistake I have deleted the appllication panel from the bar on the bottom of page
[12:05] <gioacchino> 2) now I want to reset to default configuration the kde panel
[12:05] <_4strO> gioacchino: the K menu ?
[12:05] <dec_> anyone know where i can get information on how to configure compiz with an ati radeon vid card in kde
[12:06] <_4strO> and the shortcuts ?
[12:06] <gioacchino> but clicking on the button use default configuration not add the deleted panel
[12:06] <mattrperry1976> when I boot up, my system autostarts beryl, however beryl crashes and then I get a white screen and can't see anything on the desktop etc...is there a way to uninstall beryl from the console so that it doesn't start on reboot?
[12:06] <Cable86> how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?
[12:06] <melkor> In a dual boot setup can you read the windows partition from linux?
[12:06] <gioacchino> _4strO: no the apllication panel (the panel on you see the running application)
[12:07] <sstchur> msg nickserv identify nutmeg
[12:07] <_4strO> mattrperry1976: video card ?
[12:07] <mattrperry1976> nvidia gforce 4
[12:07] <Last_Hero> melkor, yes
[12:08] <Last_Hero> melkor, if you have 7.04 you just need to mount the partition somewhere
[12:08] <sstchur> Is there anything I can do to increase the reliability of my wifi?  It connects easily, but it is CONSTANTLY dropping off (only under Linux)
[12:08] <_4strO> mattrperry1976: beryl never work ?
[12:08] <mattrperry1976> never
[12:08] <mattrperry1976> just tried to install it today on fiesty and it crashed
[12:08] <melkor> Last_Hero, what about 6.10?
[12:08] <nutemeg> sstchur: you have publicated your password
[12:09] <hiturunk> Oi.
[12:09] <nutemeg> sstchur:  you should change it
[12:09] <_4strO> mattrperry1976: to remove beryl : sudo apt-get remove beryl beryl-manager
[12:09] <hiturunk> Finally got around to getting Kubuntu (Does dance)
[12:09] <_4strO> gioacchino: you mean the curent open windows ?
[12:09] <Last_Hero> melko, you need to download some software for it, there is a guide on the Ubuntu site, but I'm afraid I can't help you, I only have experience using 7.04
[12:09] <hiturunk> God XP was driving me insane.
[12:09] <Cable86> i just started using Kubuntu as well :-)
[12:09] <mattrperry1976> thanks a million _4strO
[12:09] <sstchur> gioacchino: yeah, I goofed.. how do I change the pw?
[12:09] <gioacchino> no I dont see it on the panel menu...
[12:10] <gioacchino> I see onli the window but no the icon on apllication panel
[12:10] <Last_Hero> I started yesterday :D
[12:10] <hiturunk> I started 32 minutes ago.
[12:10] <Cable86> although ive been using Ubuntu for almost a year...i merely switched
[12:10] <madmike> adding a GB of memory sure does make a bit of a diffrance haha
[12:10] <Cable86> wanted to see what it was like on the other side of the fence
[12:10] <hiturunk> HUZZAH FOR PARTITIONING OUT 200GB HDS!
[12:10] <_4strO> gioacchino: right clicj on the panel and add an applet
[12:10] <gioacchino> sstchur: write /ns help
[12:11] <_4strO> gioacchino: unlock if it's necessary
[12:11] <hiturunk> Now I have Redhat, Kubuntu, Linspire, XP, 98 SE, and 95.
[12:11] <Last_Hero> does anyone have any experience in getting Thunderbird to work?
[12:11] <aro> I have beryl+nvidia setup working fine, all the effects work, but I have no menu bars for any windows
[12:11] <gioacchino> noe
[12:11] <aro> Anyone know what's up?
[12:11] <Cable86> wow, thats a lot of OSes
[12:11] <gioacchino> _4strO:  now ?
[12:11] <Cable86> how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?
[12:11] <hiturunk> ;P
[12:11] <gioacchino> ok!!
[12:11] <gioacchino> now work
[12:11] <gioacchino> !!
[12:11] <_4strO> :)
[12:11] <gioacchino> tanks 1000000000000 _4strO
[12:11] <hiturunk> I do loads of things, so having lots of OS'S is normal for me.
[12:11] <_4strO> aro: emerald --replace
[12:11] <sstchur> gioacchino: great, got it, thanks
[12:11] <hiturunk> I have XP on three different Hard Drives.
[12:12] <_4strO> gioacchino: ;)
[12:12] <_4strO> hiturunk: and, you're proud of that ?
[12:12] <hiturunk> I refuse to buy Vista, The beta fucked over my BIOS.
[12:12] <hiturunk> T_T
[12:12] <galathalion> since i upgraded my dist nothing works.. :<
[12:12] <hiturunk> Well, I'm proud of the fact that I'm smart enough to keep extra copies because Windows get's fucked over to easy.
[12:12] <Last_Hero> my laptop can only barely use Vista T_T
[12:12] <LjL> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:13] <hiturunk> Hey. I just noticed, Adept is the same thing as ClickNRun.
[12:13] <zblach> Kyral: kdcop looks good, but i can't find where KDE stores the ark extract .desktop. any clues?
[12:13] <hiturunk> And sorry for my language ^_^.
[12:13] <_4strO> my mind cant use vista ...
[12:13] <Hasrat_USA> good afternoon. what should i exactly do to find out the location of the program 'kwrite' in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn'?
[12:13] <Kyral> zblach: nope
[12:13] <adaptr> but Vista *can* use your mind!
[12:13] <hiturunk> Vista is a big load of crap. (Am I allowed to say that)?
[12:13] <_4strO> adaptr: :p
[12:13] <aro> _4strO THANKS!!!!!!!!
[12:13] <adaptr> not without looking silly
[12:13] <_4strO> aro :)
[12:13] <Cable86> how do i get konversation to auto-identify me?
[12:13] <hiturunk> Vista is a total load, It's just another version of NT.
[12:14] <Last_Hero> Hasrat_USE, try "locate kwrite" in the konsole
[12:14] <hiturunk> Anyone up for a game of Craft?
[12:14] <Impaque> !upgrade > Impaque
[12:14] <hiturunk> I've been wanting to play a game of it Netty for awhile.
[12:14] <Last_Hero> I've not got round to playing it yet
[12:14] <Last_Hero> still trying to get everything working
[12:14] <hiturunk> It's a great game, Not graphically, But Gameplay Wise.
[12:14] <Last_Hero> while finishing off my courseowrk
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> damn that was fast Last Hero thanks :-D