[12:30] <dade`> az
[03:42] <owh> Has anyone got any suggestions on where I go to learn more about how iocharsets work? Specifically, I'm trying to learn how it relates to file system mounting.
[03:44] <owh> I have a bug that I'm trying to determine if it's related to the kernel or dosfstools and I don't want to map it to the kernel until I know for sure that it belongs there.
[04:13] <zul__> BenC: ping...fancy pants
[04:13] <BenC> zul__: yo
[04:14] <zul__> just looking at the debian/ directory for gutsy
[04:14] <BenC> it's pretty much 100% now
[04:14] <zul__> cool
[04:14] <zul__> im just trying to wrap my head around it
[04:16] <BenC> feel free to ask questions
[04:16] <zul__> oh I will ;)
[04:17] <BenC> zul__: basically you can do things like "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic", "debian/rules build-generic", etc.
[04:17] <zul__> I was just trying to figure out how the cp debian/vannilla debian/xen idea would work
[04:18] <zul__> er debian/build/xen
[04:18] <zul__> then patch debian/build/xen
[04:18] <zul__> but anyways
[04:27] <zul> I thought we didnt have 386 as a flavour anymore?
[04:29] <lbci_irc> after updating to feisty im missing tda9887.ko for tv tuner/fm radio... has it been moved/obsoleted/replaced/forgotten?
[05:10] <BenC> wow, I had a gig of space taken up by all the extra kernels I had on this one machine from the entire feisty devel cycle
[05:11] <BenC> apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.20-{2,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12,13,14}-powerpc64-smp
[05:11] <BenC> gotta love it
[07:14] <dade`> how can i exclude a module from initrd ?
[10:51] <simira> BenC: do you know if the laptop/hibernate/acpi problem were solved before release?
[07:37] <dade`> BenC: ?
[07:37] <BenC> dade`: ?
[07:38] <dade`> i tried to add piix to initrd as you suggested but changes nothing
[07:38] <BenC> I thought you said piix was being used already?
[07:38] <dade`> older kernels
[07:38] <dade`> not in the newer
[07:40] <BenC> you could try break=top in older kernel cmdline, at the prompt "modprobe piix" then exit and let it continue
[07:40] <BenC> not sure if that will work
[07:41] <dade`> i don't have older kernel anymore, i only have feisty one.
[07:41] <dade`> see query
[07:41] <dade`> brb
[07:48] <dade`> re
[08:03] <simira> BenC: do you know if the laptop/hibernate/acpi problem were solved before release?
[08:04] <BenC> simira: that's a very generic question
[08:04] <BenC> suspend/hibernate works for most cases
[08:05] <simira> BenC: a bunch of hp laptops had a problem with fan not starting after hibernate
[08:05] <BenC> there are some issues, but they range from acpi to driver problems
[08:05] <simira> BenC: I am ego enough to think that's the most important one ;)
[08:05] <BenC> simira: that's a little more specific
[08:05] <BenC> simira: well, I'm certain I applied all the patches I was asked to for that bug
[08:06] <BenC> simira: but, some of the patches wouldn't apply, and I asked someone to get me better changesets to pull, and I believe that never happened
[08:06] <BenC> since I don't have the hw to test, I had to rely on someone having the bug to do the grunt work
[08:06] <simira> BenC: great, I'll test on final, at least. I don't know enough to fix it but Tollef might.
[08:12] <dade`> BenC: did you see the query ? does it make sense if i try -386 kernel ?
[08:13] <BenC> dade`: sure, give it a go, but I'm pretty sure it's a piix issue, and it's unlikely to be resolved unless you can do some kernel builds and testing in (like with git-bisect to find where the problem came from)
[08:15] <dade`> [    2.437697]  ICH7: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later 
[08:15] <dade`> is this a ata_piix module message ?
[08:16] <BenC> no, that's piix
[08:16] <BenC> if the drive shows as hda, it's piix, if it shows as sda, it's ata_piix
[08:16] <BenC> same with cdrom, hdc, scd0
[08:17] <dade`> ok but, if i don't insert piix in initrd, it's not loaded, and cdrom works, isn't it ?
[08:17] <BenC> I've no idea, you should be able to tell this since you are the one with the system in question :)
[08:18] <dade`> i'll be able next boot
[08:24] <dade`> piix.ko is not loaded
[08:24] <dade`> and cdrom works
[08:24] <dade`> piix.ko is not useful anymore
[08:33] <dade_> even -386
[08:33] <dade_> does not sleep