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asacno it was i38612:49
asacanyway ... you said you respin anyway ... so lets see if things get fixed for iceape12:49
asacif you have clean rebuild with 1.1.4-7 installed, then there should be no problem.12:52
asacPackage: iceape-browser12:54
asacVersion: 1.1.1-3.mt612:54
asacDepends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.13.1), libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1), libcairo2 (>= 1.4.2), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.9), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3), libhunspell-1.1-0 (>= 1.1.5-1), ....12:54
asacthats what i get from apt-cache12:54
asacso ...12:55
asac:)12:55
asaci am out ... its late here12:55
gnomefreakthats the same thing i get but looking in control it doesnt say that. i was thinking where else i changed it and couldnt think of anywhere. night01:36
gnomefreakha its the damn patch01:37
gnomefreakok disabled patch and respinning01:39
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asacanyone here?03:43
asacgnomefreak: can you send me the diff you currently have against iceape et al ... i would like to review and update bzr with your changes03:44
asacno hurry ... will do earliest tomorrow from what i can tell of todays motivation :)03:45
hjmfhowdy!04:05
hjmfI'm around here for a while :)04:05
asachi04:49
asac:)04:49
gnomefreakasac: yeah ill post it04:50
asacgood04:50
gnomefreakholy crap04:51
gnomefreakhmmm04:51
gnomefreaka little bigger than i thought04:51
gnomefreakim loading so you can wget it04:53
gnomefreakasac: wget http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Feisty/iceape_1.1.1-3.mt7.diffigz04:54
gnomefreakshoot04:54
gnomefreakasac: wget http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Feisty/iceape_1.1.1-3.mt7.diff.gz04:54
asacno the diff against bzur04:55
asacaeh ... against svn04:55
asacwith svn diff04:55
gnomefreakok give me a minute im gonna finish up repo stuff real fast04:56
gnomefreakok repo is back up05:01
gnomefreakasac: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/45280205:03
gnomefreakbrb05:03
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gnomefreaki left the patch in there and just disabled it (80_hunspell) so it makes life easy when hunspell is merged05:51
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bur[n] erhola... gnomefreak, you still here?06:20
gnomefreak!moztest06:20
ubotuThe Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution.06:20
gnomefreakbur[n] er: ^^^06:20
bur[n] erdanke06:20
gnomefreakbur[n] er: 1.99.release+2.0-1 is final release build06:21
bur[n] eri've been using 2.0 successfully for awhile now, but never had a proper .deb that overwrites 1.506:21
gnomefreakok just sent post to Ml of the fixes that were commited in repo for iceape and upgrades to tb and trunk06:22
bur[n] erit's weird how they changed config directories, do you handle this in your package?06:22
gnomefreakwhat do you mean? the changes in config are taken care of from debian/rules06:23
gnomefreakmozconfig file im assuming you are talking about06:23
bur[n] erooh... thunderbird-gnome-support is in this repo too... how nice :)06:23
gnomefreakyes its all packages with thunderbird06:23
bur[n] eri'm talking about how they changed ot use ~/.thunderbird instead of ~/.mozilla-thunderbird06:24
gnomefreakit uses same profile i havent looked but shouldnt change06:24
gnomefreakyou will need to install enigmail from the extenstion page also06:25
bur[n] erawww... the "official" package from getthunderbird.org uses ~/.thunderbird, but your pack uses ~/.mozilla-thunderbird still... i have my old settings06:25
gnomefreakit still uses ~/.mozilla-thunderbird06:25
gnomefreakthis may not be the same for gutsy and we are not really done with feistys version either for our repo. when you install it let me know if you have unmet depends on anything there were some changes we made and i want to see if a freash install of it fixed these depends06:28
bur[n] erit works06:30
bur[n] ermine is not "fresh" though... I had 1.506:30
gnomefreakthats fine06:33
bur[n] ershould I upgrade to libnspr4-0d from feisty's 1.8.0.10 to your 4.6.6 ?06:34
bur[n] erthat seems like a helluva jump06:35
gnomefreakyes06:35
bur[n] erthe firefox package seems broken06:35
gnomefreakbur[n] er: without libnspr4-0d and libnss3-od nothing will work06:36
gnomefreakbur[n] er: define broken? and what firefox package?06:36
bur[n] eruhh... i can't upgrade, i'll brb though06:37
gnomefreakbur[n] er: when you get back please show me what it says06:38
bur[n] erfirefox: Depends: libhunspell-1.1-0 (>= 1.1.5-1) but 1.1.4-7 is to be installed06:41
gnomefreakbur[n] er: ok ty i will respin06:41
gnomefreakthere is a leftover patch (i just fixed that in iceape)06:41
bur[n] eryw, thanks for the repo :)06:41
gnomefreakbur[n] er: i should have it done within 18 hours06:42
bur[n] erwhatever, firefox is 2.0.0.3 in feisty :)  thunderbird 1.5 just isn't as cool though06:42
gnomefreakill start on it now06:42
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gnomefreakasac: you around still?06:46
gnomefreakasac: when you get time take a look in firefox 2.0.0.x that we built for repo. it has hunspell patch but it looks like it is 2+ patches combined to use hunspell instead of myspell is this also deciding the version of it. let me know if you need it ill post it somewhere. but its still depending on 1.1.506:48
gnomefreak* Rebuilt using hunspell 1.1.4-7 instead of version 1.1.5-6  as i did with iceape but iceape had the patch is fx the same patch differnet name?06:50
bur[n] ergnomefreak: you're a genius and a hero... thanks again!  If I can do anything else, just ask... I plan on idling here and will be in and out all day06:52
gnomefreakk06:52
gnomefreakill be in and out today06:53
gnomefreakbug #9439207:02
gnomefreakbug 9439207:02
ubotuMalone bug 94392 in firefox "Broken URL in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9439207:02
gnomefreakhmmmmm07:06
gnomefreakbur[n] er: ill fix it as soon as i can07:11
asacgnomefreak: don't touch patches ... they are right07:14
asacas i said ... its just a rebuild ... nothing more07:15
gnomefreakasac: i already rebuilt it on the feisty version of hunspell but ill run it again and see if it changes08:52
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therealnanotubehello, anyone around?08:57
gnomefreaktherealnanotube: sort of08:57
therealnanotubeheh, good enough :)08:57
therealnanotubei have a question about the mozilla software releases pgp key. not really an "ubuntu" problem, but i don't know where else to ask.08:57
therealnanotubequestion is - what pgp/gpg keyserver actually stores the mozilla pgp keys?08:58
therealnanotubeit used to be on subkeys.pgp.net, but now it appears that it's not there anymore08:58
gnomefreaktherealnanotube: might want to try #mozilla or irc.mozilla.org and join #mozilla08:58
therealnanotubeok, i will give it a shot. thanks :)08:58
gnomefreakyw08:58
asacgnomefreak: if you rebuild on feisty with right hunspell then everything should be fine ... why do you think it isn't?09:01
gnomefreakasac: because i rebuilt it on feisty with feistys hunspell and it didnt fix it i did it just before i did iceape and iceape was a patch issue09:01
asaci still don't get what you say with "a patch issue"09:02
gnomefreaki rebuilt everything on hunspell 1.1.4-7 and it was still asking for 1.1.5* even after changing build-deps removing the 80_hunspell patch fixed this issue. i know the patch is supposed to only make it depend on hunspell instead of myspell but something is wrong than09:04
asacdon't remove any patch09:05
asacthats non-sense09:05
gnomefreakin iceape changing depends to 1.1.4-7 did nothing to the final build it still depended on 1.1.509:05
asacit definitly has to do with you having wrong hunspell installed udring build09:05
asacyou must not change anything09:06
asacno depends no nothing09:06
asacjust have the right hunspell versions installed09:06
gnomefreakhunspell:09:06
gnomefreak  Installed: 1.1.4-709:06
gnomefreak  Candidate: 1.1.4-709:06
gnomefreak  Version table:09:06
gnomefreak *** 1.1.4-7 009:06
gnomefreak        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages09:06
gnomefreak        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status09:06
asacnot that package09:06
asacthe -dev package09:06
asaclibhunspell*dev09:06
gnomefreak:(09:06
asacjust look at build-depends ... and see what version that package has09:07
asacand please don't remove any patch09:07
asacyour current build now doesn't use hunspell at all09:07
gnomefreakit will09:08
asac(feisty32)root@hector:/home/asac# dpkg -l libhunspell*09:08
asacDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold09:08
asac| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed09:08
asac|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)09:08
asac||/ Name                Version             Description09:08
asac+++-===================-===================-======================================================09:08
asacii  libhunspell-1.1-0   1.1.4-7             spell checker and morphological analyzer (shared libra09:08
asacii  libhunspell-dev     1.1.4-7             spell checker and morphological analyzer (development)09:08
asacthats what you need ... and you probably don't have them09:08
asacbut 1.1.509:08
gnomefreakit was libhunspell (i searched for libhunspell but i needed the 1.1-0 :(09:09
gnomefreakits being fixed09:09
asacgnomefreak: take care that you revert everything you changed now09:10
asacno patch drop nothing .) ... then everything should be right09:10
therealnanotubefor now, no luck getting any help on irc.mozilla.org.... :(09:10
gnomefreaki am it will take rest of day but everything will be rebuilt09:11
asactherealnanotube: use google ... the key is somewhere on mozilla site09:11
asacgnomefreak: cool09:11
therealnanotubeasac: i have found the key on google, that's no problem. but i want to know a pgp key server, so that i can import it easily with "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 1AF32821"09:12
therealnanotubeasac: subkeys.pgp.net used to work, but now it doesn't have the key anymore, it appears...09:12
asacjust import it manually09:12
asacno need for keyserver09:12
asacif you have it you can publish it on your own09:12
therealnanotubeasac: i'm doing this so that i can update my "installnewfirefox.sh" script09:13
therealnanotubeasac: so manual import is not really a good option :)09:13
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asacdepending on net is definitly even a worse option09:14
asacbest ship the key with your script09:14
asacand always import manually09:14
therealnanotubeasac: the script already depends on the net, because it has to download the firefox and thunderbird tar.gz anyway. but... including the key in the script seems like a good option, if i fail to find an "official" keyserver that mozilla uses.09:15
asacthere is nothing like official keyserver09:15
asacand btw, the key is still everywhere09:15
asacdunno what you do09:15
asacand you cannot trust what you get from keyservers09:16
asacso you have to included trust-info in your script anyway.09:16
asacso ... just include the key :)09:16
asacotherwise, gpg --search-keys releases@mozilla.org will give you the key09:17
therealnanotubeasac: heh well, ok, i guess you have convinced me. ;)09:17
asactherealnanotube: its real ... i mean the whole gpg verification is worth nothing as the key you get from the keyserver is not more trustworthy then the tarball you download from ftp.mozilla.org09:20
gnomefreakasac: did you change firefox bzr by chance?09:20
asacwhat changes do you want?09:20
gnomefreaknone just asking if you did09:20
asacno ... see if merge brings in new changes though09:21
asacor better pull09:21
gnomefreakim installing bzr now09:21
asacyou reinstallted system or why is it gone?09:22
asacgnomefreak: howver, i guess there are no new changes09:22
therealnanotubeasac: well, i know that. but it's harder to compromise both the ftp.mozilla.org, and a keyserver, than just ftp.mozilla.org, plus it serves as a simple download integrity verifier as well. so it's better than nothing. :) and besides, for a third party, trusting subkeys.pgp.net is better than trusting some key i include in the script.09:22
asacsure ... its your script :)09:24
therealnanotubeasac: heh, well /i/ trust it, but the numerous random people who download and use it really have no reason to. ;)09:25
asacplease ensure that users know that the software they use is not supported by distributor09:27
asace.g. PLEASE don't report issues with that software to ubuntu09:28
asactherealnanotube: ^^^^ +09:31
therealnanotubeasac: was that "issues with software" stuff directed at me?09:32
asacyes09:32
asacits about a warning which would be nice09:32
therealnanotubeaaah i see. i thought you were telling me not to report issues to ubuntu. :)09:34
therealnanotubethe script already tells users to report any problems to me personally, rather than to ubuntu.09:35
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therealnanotubeanyway, thanks for your help. :) i'm gettin' outta here.09:40
gnomefreakmaybe closer to tomorrow before the repo gets updated with the new packages11:09
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cjnstatus of this bug is "needs info", can someone add a comment explaining what info is needed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/9936811:29
ubotuMalone bug 99368 in firefox "SVG rotation renderization broken" [Undecided,Needs info] 11:29
asaccjn: please add mt-confirm tag11:43
asaci will look at it on next bug day then11:43
asac"Needs Info" without a tag is always wrong11:43
asacno doubt a reason that there was no progress so far on this bug so far11:44
asacwe are working on tools to find such triaging bugs ... sorry for the inconvenience11:45
asaccjn: so just add the tag and it will be processed11:46
gnomefreaki added tag11:48
asacgnomefreak: fine ;)11:48
gnomefreak:)11:48
asacgnomefreak: we have a list of triaging bugs here:11:48
asachttp://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/firefox.html11:48
asacthose are bughelper results11:48
gnomefreakok i will look at it this week. right now too much cpu usage11:49
asac"Wrong Status/Tag-Combination for Status 'XXX' are those that need some tag11:49
asacprobably lots can be closed11:49
gnomefreakok book marked11:49
asacgnomefreak: sure ;)11:49
gnomefreak:)11:50
asacproblem is that that list is regenerated every 2 hours11:50
asacand that for about 1.5 hours the file is still growing11:50
gnomefreakno problem at all once i start working on it11:50
asacso sometimes you look at that page and see just 20 issues :)11:50
asacan hour later you see 15011:50
gnomefreaklet it build up. i will get it under control best i can :)11:51
asaci will talk to dholbach so only complete lists will be visible there11:51
gnomefreakasac: dont forget to register nick with ubotu11:51
asacah right11:51
asac;)11:51
asacwhat was it?11:51
gnomefreakummmmm11:51
asac msg obuto register asac xxxx11:51
asac?11:51
asacok found it11:51
asac /msg ubotu register nickname password11:51
gnomefreakshit11:51
gnomefreakok /msg ubotu register asac password11:52
asachmm ubotu doesn't like me11:52
asac:)11:52
asacError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:52
gnomefreaki figured as much why would it be that simple11:52
asac;)11:52
gnomefreak%help register11:53
asac!help register11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help register - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:53
gnomefreak@help register11:53
asacmaybe its not ubotu?11:53
asacubotu: help11:53
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:53
asacubotu: help register11:53
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gnomefreakim asking about the command atm that is the one given to me yesterday11:54
gnomefreakasac: try without the nick11:54
asachmmm looks like its the way its documented in wiki ... but doesn't work11:54
asacok will try without nick11:54
asacstill doesn't like me11:55
gnomefreakstill?11:55
asacyes11:55
asacguess i have to go into ubuntu-ops11:55
asacand ask for manual registration11:55
gnomefreakim waiting for answer11:56
gnomefreakthe person that is answering me thinks i mean freenode :(11:56
gnomefreak%help11:56
ubotu(help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.11:56
asac%help register11:57
gnomefreak%help identify11:57
ubotu(identify <name> <password>) -- Identifies the user as <name>. This command (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel.11:57
asac%help register11:57
asac%help register11:57
asachmmm no command "register"11:57
gnomefreaknoticed that11:57
asac%help acommands11:57
asac%help commands11:57
asac%help ALL11:57
gnomefreak%list commands11:57
gnomefreakever since bots were merged i have a hard time remembering commands11:58
asacguess no luck for me then :)11:58
asac%help factoid11:59
asac%help factoids11:59
asacubotu: you suck11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:59
asactell asac about register11:59
asac:)11:59
asac!tell asac about register11:59
gnomefreak:)11:59
gnomefreakthats for freenode :)12:00
asachmm12:00
asacthen i am already identified12:01
asacwhat the hell does ubotu want from me?12:01
gnomefreakhe wants you to register with him.12:01
asachehe12:01
asacubotu: register or die :)12:02
asacubotu: forget it12:02
gnomefreaknow try it12:02
gnomefreakwith nick and password12:03
asacups12:03
asache thinks that i really want him to forget something12:03
gnomefreakwe know we got the post :)12:03
asacyeah12:03
asacworked12:03
gnomefreakdid it work?12:03
asacwhat was wrong?12:03
gnomefreakok cool12:03
gnomefreakit wasnt enabled12:03
asack12:03
asacno i am identified ;)12:04
gnomefreak%addeditor asac12:04
ubotuOK12:04
gnomefreakasac: ther eyou go :)12:04
asacgreat ;) ... now i need a reason to edit i guess ;)12:04
asacmaybe tomorrow12:04
asaci will have some ;)12:04
asacthanks!12:04
gnomefreakyw12:04
asacgnomefreak: i am really happy that we now fixed the libhunspell mess for you ... it somehow blocked you i guess ;)12:07
asacendless respins et al :)12:08
asachopefully gutsy will open soon so we can move tbird 2.0 in12:08
asacand all the other stuff ... and concentrate on patch testing for preview archive again12:08
asacthis transition testing needs just lots of packages and i am sorry that you finally had to deal with that many things12:09
asacat least since you just got started12:09
gnomefreakit opened12:09
asacit was quite a huge thing to start with ... e.g. hosting archive to transition12:09
asacgutsy?12:09
gnomefreaktoolchain is sort of there12:09
gnomefreakyes but no chroot12:10
asacsort of is probably not good enough :)12:10
asacwhat happens if you run debootstrap gutsy?12:10
gnomefreakits there i heard 2 updates to it12:10
gnomefreaki get error no gutsy in debootstrap12:10
gnomefreaki can give you error in a minute12:10
asacah ok ... we probably have to wait for a bit more than the toolchain anyay12:10
gnomefreakthats what i was thinking12:11
gnomefreakbut hoping before alpha112:11
asacactually we need gtk+ stuff which is pretty high in the foodchain :)12:11
asacyeah definitly12:11
gnomefreaktrue12:11
asaci want things in a week or two ready for us12:11
gnomefreakWE need alot before we can add anything12:11
asacyeah12:12
asac;)12:12
gnomefreakit wont happen (im betting on that)12:12
asacbut we could upload our sources... which will wait there until everything is avail12:12
gnomefreaktrue12:12
asachmmm ... so probably preview archive will stay that size ... and even grow more12:12
gnomefreakim assuming the OO.o people maintain hunspell (may take a while to get new version in)12:13
asacenigmail ... locales ... wuold be really good i guess12:13
gnomefreakasac: i will make gutsy repo soon12:13
gnomefreakthose would be great :)12:13
asacyes thats good ... i would like to reduce feisty repo to just carry tbird 2.0 backports (+enigmail + locales) and firefox-trunk again12:13
asacall development should go into gutsy12:13
gnomefreakif its ready12:14
asacthen our repo will again ship patches which we need feedback12:14
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asacah ;)12:14
gnomefreakthe people testing the repo seem to be testing the shit we dont NEED tested12:15
asachmmm12:15
asacgutsy Packages.gz is already 1.2Mb12:15
gnomefreakiceape is main one12:15
asacso probably its all there already12:15
gnomefreakasac: i have to clean it out12:15
gnomefreaki have 4 versions of crap in there12:15
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... we can drop old builds12:15
asacdefinitly12:15
gnomefreaki havent gotten to that yet12:15
gnomefreakwhen i upload these ill clean it to hold 2 versions of everything12:16
asaconly keep two versions if we want to test upgrade path from somewhere old to somewhere old12:16
asac2nd old is new of course :)12:16
gnomefreaktrue12:17
gnomefreakthe people that wanted iceape in besides me wont use iceape under that name is what i gathered from a convo with someone a while back (you were there)12:18
asachmm12:19
gnomefreakits a bit late to be changing it now. and i kind of like the iceape branding (and ease of patching from debian12:19
gnomefreakthats something we need to do12:19
gnomefreakor me needs to do12:19
asaci think iceape is good ... we can have seamonkey as well at some point12:19
gnomefreaki would push seamonkey in gutsy+1 if decided12:20
asacwhy do you think people won't use iceape?12:20
gnomefreakleave iceape now and just make it transitional package in gutsy+112:20
gnomefreakasac: one person said it12:20
gnomefreakand i should have gotten some iceape doesnt work (more so than 2)12:21
asacyeah problem is that trolls always cry most12:21
asacdon't listen to the mob12:21
gnomefreaki didnt but i did like the idea of having it in repos12:21
asacyeah might have been broken because of general problems we had in repo12:21
asacbut nothing because its "iceape" instead of "seamonkey"12:22
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gnomefreakasac: its the same other than a name and icons12:22
gnomefreaklol12:22
asacif devels commit to maintain it .. it will make it12:22
asacits iceool :)12:23
gnomefreakasac: they havent yet what makes you think they will12:23
gnomefreakdid you hear back from them?12:23
asaci think 0.2/0.3 was too early and maintaining it in a stable branch was too much work12:23
gnomefreakmakes sense12:23
asacow that they are at 0.5 .. they might be more tempted to maintain stable12:24
asachaven't talked yet12:24
gnomefreakare they there yet?12:24
gnomefreakat 0.512:24
asacbut honestly we have still plenty time for gutsy :)12:24
asacnot sure ... but almost there at least12:24
gnomefreakfor things new to being packaged i would like in early to allow for official testing12:24
asacsure12:25
gnomefreakare we maintaining nss and nspr?12:25
asac3 month before release should be more than enough12:25
asacyes12:25
gnomefreakk12:25
asacnss + nspr + xulrunner + firefox + thunderbird will probably be in main12:25
gnomefreakwhoa12:26
gnomefreakwe are building xulrunner seperately?12:26
asacfirefox-trunk will go either universe or will be removed just before release (so it doesn't ship in stable main)12:26
asacnot yet ... but yes, we will.12:26
gnomefreakok12:26
gnomefreakcool :)12:26
asacepiphany et al will all build against it12:27

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