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Shaba1are symbolic links on unix/linux the same as shortcuts on window?12:26
kmayes and no12:27
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Shaba1ok kma how yes?12:30
Shaba1how ni?12:30
totalwormageecki ecki ecki ptang zoo phong!12:30
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soweto76I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty.  I read in the announcement of the new release that there  was a "wizard" of some sort to install nasty codecs.  I don't know how to access this program.12:36
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odathello everyone12:39
odatanyone able to get apple's movie trailers working with gxine?12:39
Shaba1Ok anyone know how to put a driver for a web cam on xubuntu12:40
Shaba1I found a site that supposedly had a driver12:40
Shaba1but I just could not figure it out. It was all linuxspeak12:40
Shaba1and I do windowsspeak12:40
odatdid you plug your webcam in?12:41
Shaba1yes12:41
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Shaba1of course I did odat12:41
odatwhat did you test your cam with?12:42
Shaba1just becasue I use windows does not mean I am a complete idiot12:42
Shaba1I have been programming computers since before you were born probably12:42
odatanswer the question please12:43
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Shaba1I did12:44
Shaba1<Shaba1> of course I did odat12:44
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odatwhat program did you use to test it12:46
odatthat was the question12:46
Shaba1thats the thing12:46
Shaba1I did not try any program I yahooed for +Creative +Webcam +Notebook +linux12:46
Shaba1and found a page that clamied to have a driver12:47
Shaba1but instead of simple instruction on how to install the driver12:47
Shaba1the page had a whole lot of history and this and that12:47
odatopen synaptic and install camorama12:47
odatthe driver is probably already installed12:47
Shaba1then why am I not able to use that cam on the xubuntu side of my laptop12:49
odatwhat are you talking about bro12:49
odatinstall camorama then use that program to see if your cam is working12:49
odatinstall camorama on the xubuntu side12:49
odatthrough synaptic12:49
Pumpernickelsoweto76: If you attempt to play an unsupported media file, it should launch automatically.12:50
Shaba1http://feanor.sssup.it/~pj/linux/creative_webcam_notebook.html12:50
Shaba1http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html12:51
Shaba1those are the two pages I found12:51
odatshaba1 are you not listening?12:51
odatget on your xubuntu machine12:52
odatattached the cam12:52
odatopen up synaptic and install camorama12:52
soweto76Pumpernickel, when I tried to play a web based video (probably buried in javascript) I did not get an automatic response.12:52
Shaba1I heard you12:52
Shaba1you mind if I take the time to start up the machine12:52
Shaba1??12:52
odatopen up camorama and see if your cam is working12:52
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odatchances are since its a creative webcam the driver is already installed on your machine12:52
Pumpernickelsoweto76: If you can find out what format it's in, and what media player plugin your browser is using, I can probably tell you what package you'll need.12:53
odatPumpernickel, any reason why gxine doesn't play quicktime movies?  i have all the codecs installed12:54
soweto76Pumpernickel, Anyway, I understand that the automatic nature now.  I have installed the codes like win32 and a gxine browser plugin and it now works.  Thanks.12:54
Pumpernickelsoweto76: OK, cool.12:54
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BFTDwad up?12:56
hyper_chhmmm, Kate doesn't like a 250mb sql file...12:56
Pumpernickelodat: Does it crash, or just not play?12:57
Shaba1starting up now odat12:57
odatPumpernickel, just doesn't play12:57
PumpernickelAnd you have libxine1-plugins installed?12:58
soweto76Pumpernickel, libxine1-plugins seems to have a lot of gnome depencies eh.01:00
soweto76Pumpernickel, ^depencies^dependencies01:01
PumpernickelYeah.  The actual codecs are mostly in libxine1-ffmpeg and libxine1, but the other dependencies provide some output plugins as well.01:02
soweto76okeeleedokeelee01:02
Shaba1Its downloading now odat01:04
Shaba1that did it odat01:05
Shaba1thanks01:05
Shaba1ok next question01:07
Shaba1How can I adjust the amout of time before grub starts windows01:07
Shaba1now it is at 25 seconds01:07
Shaba1I would like it to be a minute01:07
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Morpheus_74Hello.  I just did a fresh install of fiesty, and the text when in tty1,2,3,4.. is extremely huge that I cannot see what I type in be01:41
Morpheus_74any ideas?01:42
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helloworldhello01:59
helloworldhow do i install gnome on xubuntu???01:59
helloworldcan't find ubuntu-gnome01:59
helloworldnm its ubuntu desktop02:01
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Lord_Maynoth_42If anyone could help me please, I am about to go batty.. My NIC was detected and working fine(still does in xp) in xubuntu feisty, but it quit so I reformatted in ubuntu.  It says its an unknown device in hardware information.  I downloaded and installed the latest linux driver from realtek RTL8111B but it didn't do anything so I rebooted and it still says unknown device...03:27
malnilionWireless or ethernet?03:29
Lord_Maynoth_42hey03:29
Lord_Maynoth_42its ethernet03:29
Lord_Maynoth_42:/03:30
malnilionHmmm, most ethernet should be supported out of box :-/03:30
malnilionlet's see...03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42it was working03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42fine03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42then it wuit03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42quit03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42so i reformatted it03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42um03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42when you install a driver03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42i had to compile03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42do you have to redetect hardware03:30
malnilionA kernel module?03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42yes03:30
Lord_Maynoth_42I installed as per the instructions03:31
malnilionYeah, you probably had to reload the kernel module03:31
malnilionAnd assuming that worked, you would have internet...03:31
Lord_Maynoth_42make clean modulesmake installdepmod -a03:31
Lord_Maynoth_42thats what it said to do03:31
malnilionYeah, probably should have set things up for you03:32
Lord_Maynoth_42:c03:32
malnilionOkay, so next question, are you using a network manager?03:32
Lord_Maynoth_42what do you mean?03:32
malnilionLike a network manager application?03:32
Lord_Maynoth_42whatever the default install has03:33
malnilionCould you see if there's any info when you run "ifconfig" from a command line?03:33
Lord_Maynoth_42sure...03:34
Lord_Maynoth_42i will have to reboot and check though03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42im on my xp hard drive03:35
malnilionOh, damn03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42:/03:35
malnilionWell, here's the thing, if you don't have internet when you boot up, there's a problem03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42I can't figure it03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42out03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42it works great in xp03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42it was working in xubuntu03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42and then it just quit03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42:c03:35
Lord_Maynoth_42its saying its an unknown device03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42but it lists its info03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42is there anyway to force it to use a driver?03:36
malnilionYou didn't remove any kernel packages that were installed did you?03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42no03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42I did a fresh install even03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42of fiesty xubuntu03:36
Lord_Maynoth_42and then ubuntu03:37
malnilionStrange...03:37
Lord_Maynoth_42is it possible to force it to use a driver03:37
malnilionI'm not certain :-/03:37
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Lord_Maynoth_42modprobe03:43
Lord_Maynoth_42what does that do03:43
Lord_Maynoth_42?03:43
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Morpheus_74Hello.  Can someone help me with my refresh rate?03:59
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BFTDMorpheus_74 whats the problem?04:29
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LM1How do I force a hardware redetect?04:32
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Morpheus_74BFTD: Are you still here?04:37
BFTDMorpheus_74 yes04:37
LM1:C04:38
Morpheus_74BFTD: I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu 7.04 (fiesty), and my video card is an intel i740.04:39
BFTDew04:39
BFTDok04:39
BFTDgo on04:39
Morpheus_74BFTD: I edited my xorg file to get my display to 1024 X 768, but I cannot change the refresh rate, when I scroll with the mouse it's choppy, and when I got to tty1,2,3... the font is so large that I cannot see what I'm typing at the bottom of the screen.04:39
BFTDoh04:40
BFTDits the type of card actually04:40
BFTDits old and yuckie04:40
Morpheus_74BFTD: I had it working under Ubuntu 6.06.  Did something major change with 7.04?04:41
Morpheus_74BFTD: Anything I can do?  I thought Linux was suppose to be good with older hardware?04:42
BFTD!i78004:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i780 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
BFTD!info i78004:42
ubotuPackage i780 does not exist in feisty04:42
BFTDhrm04:42
BFTD!i81004:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
BFTDoooh04:42
BFTD74004:43
BFTDok04:43
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emilamiyall, i have a few questions04:43
emilamii've been a longtime xfce4 user on gentoo04:43
BFTDshoot04:43
emilamii got frustrated with gentoo and switched to kubuntu... which is killing me04:43
emilamihow stable is xubuntu?04:43
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BFTDmore then kubuntu04:44
emilamii was led to believe it was basically in development stages04:44
emilamiawesome04:44
BFTDalt+F204:44
BFTDterminal04:44
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BFTDsudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:44
emilamihow does it handle wireless?04:45
LM1is there a command to redetect hardware?04:45
ElTigreDelSurcan someone help me with a sound problem?04:45
BFTDLM1 I'm not sure04:45
emilamii've had serious problems with kubuntu settings colliding somehow, and my wireless is dropping on me every few hours04:45
BFTDemilami I had to use ndiswrapper for mine04:45
emilamiand then it takes at least an hour to get it working again04:46
BFTDOh? you have wireless already, ok cool04:46
BFTDyeah04:46
BFTDIt does that to me too04:46
BFTDbut not under xubuntu04:46
emilamii just used the little builtin... whatever it is that kde uses04:46
emilamii set up wlassistant at first04:46
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BFTD7.04 right?04:47
emilamiyeah04:47
emilamiand that told me that it dropped support for it and was going to uninstall it04:47
BFTDok04:47
peepsi don't understand why I don't have firefox 2.0.  does anyone know how to make apt-get give me 2.004:47
BFTDpeeps what version?04:48
BFTDOS that is04:48
peeps7.0404:48
BFTDhrm04:48
BFTDwhat did it install?04:48
peepsit started as Dapper, and has been upgraded twice04:48
peepswhen i run firefox it says 1.5.0.404:49
emilamii used to like gentoo, but over the past 2 years it has become unstable... so... yeah04:49
emilamiand gentoo is basically all i know, so i feel like an idiot trying to figure this stuff out04:49
emilamiespecially since i'm used to my husband doing all the network configuration for me04:50
peepsaccording to apt-get i already have the latest version of firefox installed04:50
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peepsi don't get it04:51
emilamimine is on 2.0.0.304:51
emilamigo to help - about04:51
emilamiit will tell you what your version is04:51
peepsi know, and it says 1.5.0.404:51
peepsi tried a reinstalll but that didn't seem to do anything04:52
emilami2.0.0.3 is what i am seeing in the adept manager thing also04:52
BFTDpeeps pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:54
emilamii'm going to torrent xubuntu overnight, wipe the kubuntu, and just start fresh04:56
emilamii'm glad i keep a /home partition ^_^;04:56
BFTDemilami whats wrong with sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:57
emilamiit would work, but i think my husband is going to switch also04:57
emilamithis way we just have to download it once04:58
emilamiand will have a disc04:58
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emilamithanks for your help, bftd05:00
peepshttp://pastebin.ca/45218805:03
peepsBFTD, there is the file, sorry it took me a bit05:03
BFTDpeeps go her -----> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/05:09
BFTDand create a feisty sources.list05:09
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minstrelanyone know what gives with xubuntu 7.04 not being able to boot safe graphic mode when hooked to a twinview setup?05:14
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Pumpernickel1)  Where are you specifying safe mode - boot, or login? and 2)  What error messages do you get?05:15
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peepsBFTD, ok now what05:23
BFTDpeeps sudo apt-get update05:23
peepsok05:24
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itknighthi All05:24
itknighthas anyone done a ltsp setup on Xubuntu05:24
peepsBFTD, didn't seem to help05:33
BFTDpeeps whats the output of this command "apt-cache search firefox"05:33
minstrelPumpernickel:    just on the cd boot    have a nvidia card with a viewsonic on the vga and a dell on the dvi port     the vga went offline and the dell said range too low05:34
peepsBFTD, http://pastebin.ca/45222405:35
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BFTDpeeps I'm not too sure whats wrong05:39
BFTDtry sudo apt-get remove firefox then sudo apt-get install firefox05:39
Pumpernickelminstrel: Sounds like it's trying to output a video mode not supported by those monitors.  Have you tried specifying it manually?05:43
Pumpernickelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_driver#VESA_video_mode_numbers05:43
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minstrelPumpernickel:    vga=xxx i can do but what are the commands for doing refresh rate?  80hz ?05:51
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test3r!menu edit05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menu edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
test3rwait now i see the menu editor! it did get fixed in 610, yes?06:00
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ricii just tried to burn a cd with xfburn on 6.10, and it did absolutely nothing really fast. i.e. it shows 100% complete immediately without doing anything.06:08
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ricicdrecord worked from the command line, though.06:08
SamtAnyone know where to get an xubuntu md5sum from? I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes but can't find xubuntu md5s there.06:11
ricii just found those.06:11
ricisec.06:11
riciSamt: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS06:12
Samtthanks06:12
test3rrici > have u tried growisofs ?06:13
ricino06:13
riciwhat would it do that would be useful to me?06:13
test3rive been able to use that - its from cmnd line. but have the worst luck with the GUI ones with my hardware06:13
test3rwell it burns disks06:13
test3rcds or dvd06:13
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riciodd name for a burner06:14
ricibut cdrecord worked fine06:14
test3ru dont even have to do much fancy just hook up ur burner to the tux box (even USB) flip it oon. stik in blank.  then run the program with switches06:14
test3rtry man growisofs  and you'll see06:15
riciok, i'll keep that in mind.06:17
test3ri used it to re-construct data from a corrupted disk made by a Mac user that doesn't understand how to test a Paid Job that he handed to me06:17
test3rkewlio.06:17
ricilooks handy.06:17
ricii don't actually burn cd's that often, just when i'm about to travel06:17
ricii was just wondering why xfburn didn't do anything06:18
ricii expected at least an error message or something.06:18
test3ryeah im not sure about the audio CDs with that prog. cant be that hard though06:18
ricii was burning an iso, anyway06:18
ricii usually like to carry my active work with me, just in case.06:18
test3ri think i ended up mounting thru loop bak06:19
test3rthe iso?06:19
riciyeah06:20
ricii don't know why i bother.06:20
ricii always have this fantasy that i'll have some spare time and a machine to borrow06:20
riciit never actually works out that way06:20
test3ra/nd then just ref the mount from the cmnd line 'growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files06:20
ricibut having the cd gives me some sort of sense of security06:20
test3rwrite doen that last bit there06:20
test3r;)   njoy06:21
ricithanks06:21
test3rthats for rockridge jouliete  the resulting disk will be compat alot of things06:21
test3rand of course thats for burning to a blank DVD- but im sure the CD line looks similar06:22
test3rhey u havin trouble getting a box to run xubuntu on????  lol, come buy one of mine.  $30.06:25
test3rthe next Presario i see someone toss out iin the dumpster ima try poketlinux on06:25
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test3ror something just ultra ultra compat06:26
Pumpernickelminstrel: I don't know of any way to specify refresh.06:26
test3r& learn how to do the etc. but something that works better than gentoo HAHAHAHAHAH06:26
RatshellHey question where would I go to report admin abuse?06:26
PumpernickelRatshell: What kind of abuse / where?06:26
RatshellOkay one of the admins for some reason baned me from ubuntu.06:27
minstrelthanks Punpernickel    may try switching monitors or something to see if i can resolve it06:27
RatshellSo I went to Ubuntu-ops to report them, the same one banned from there06:27
PumpernickelRatshell: #ubuntu-ops06:27
Pumpernickelhmmm06:27
RatshellSo I went to ubuntu+1 to ask a question about gnump3d and and that admin banned me there to06:27
RatshellI didn't do anything and I want to be unbanned06:27
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RatshellSo any idea?06:29
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test3rmore. liquid. refreshment.      yes06:30
PumpernickelLooking at the bantracker... seems you made a royal pain of yourself.06:32
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Shaba1how do I check my sound system/ all of a sudden I am not getting any audio on dvds or screen cast in xubuntu06:36
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test3ralways first chek the plug. 99% of the time its The Plug. then chek to see the card is in all the way by removing it then putting it back in the PCI / USB however you are connecting your soundcard.06:38
Shaba1its a laptop06:38
Shaba1so there are no connectors to speakers06:38
test3rhave you added a link to your audio panel at your top bar yet?06:39
test3rright click the top bar, goto add, find the audio program06:40
test3rmine says "Volume Control" in the resulting list of things to ass06:40
test3ruh assasinate06:41
test3rno thats not the word i meand06:41
test3radd06:41
Shaba1what top bars06:41
test3ryour top Panel06:41
Shaba1I right click06:41
Shaba1and then clicked add new items06:42
test3rwith the clock? and the Applications menu and such06:42
Shaba1now I have a dialog box06:42
Shaba1with some choices06:42
test3rso it is the choice pertaining to your question06:42
Shaba1hold on let me look to see if anyof them look like they deal with video06:42
test3rthe audio related choice06:42
Shaba1that is what I meant06:45
Shaba1I just typed06:45
Shaba1audio06:45
Shaba1Ok I adjusted every slider I cold fine up06:45
Shaba1NOW its playing06:46
Shaba1thanks test3r06:46
test3rhey np man   =)))06:46
Shaba1nice06:46
Shaba1and quick06:46
Shaba1i like that06:46
Shaba1thanks06:46
test3ri find screenshot icon to add to be nice06:46
test3rquick and easy & allows you to set delay, auto-filename (it will just put them in your user dir)06:47
test3rthe mount thing looked dangerous to me because it might unmount my main partition (hda1?)06:48
test3rof the other choices to add to the bar06:49
test3r... i need to figure out how to just add a shortcut to Terminal up there. the same thats under accessories.06:49
riciadd new item | launcher | fill it all in06:52
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test3roh shnap! thx!  now i just gota figure out where its calling...06:53
rici.. /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal06:53
riciwithout the ..06:53
test3ri know where to look for that06:53
test3rok06:53
riciand you'll probably want to find the nice Terminal icon06:53
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test3rits in the button-select-list06:55
test3rveryvery ez06:55
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xjkxWhat graphical cd burner comes By Default on xubuntu ?06:56
Pumpernickelxfburn06:57
test3rhas ne1 found a better x editor than "xjed" yet for learning C?07:02
xjkxPumpernickel, does it burn audio?07:04
xjkxLoL, this xfburn uses gnome thing07:07
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xjkxxubuntu using gtk would not sound right07:08
PumpernickelNo, it doesn't burn audio.07:08
PumpernickelAnd Xfce is gtk based, so I'm not sure what your problem with that is.07:08
xjkxoh...i thought it was a fluxbox follower :/07:09
PumpernickelIf you're looking to burn audio disks, graveman may work for you.07:10
Pumpernickel!info graveman07:10
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Pumpernickel...and the bot is lagged.07:11
ubotugraveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (feisty), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB07:11
xjkxPumpernickel, i am actually writing a description and only default packages counts ;)07:11
Pumpernickelah07:11
xjkxbut thanks, the information it uses gtk was awesome :>07:12
xjkxPumpernickel, then why its less heavy than gnome? i dont get it07:12
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xjkxi meant xfce07:13
xjkxor xubuntu X ubuntu07:13
PumpernickelGtk is just the interface toolkit.  There's a lot of other stuff that goes into making a desktop environment.07:13
xjkxuhmm, so kde is not heavy for using QT, i get the point07:14
test3rgtk is used by C compiler07:14
PumpernickelYeah.07:14
Pumpernickeltest3r: Uh... what?07:14
test3risnt it? in my book it said i neede d a gtk pak or two installed for it to compile07:15
test3rthey might have been already on here, though07:15
xjkxI thought the interface toolkit was heavy already, are they all the same (in this topic)07:15
Pumpernickeltest3r: Those would be requirements for a specific application.07:15
Pumpernickele.g; in order to build an app that requires gtk, you'll need the gtk development headers.07:17
test3rooop im sorry its libg++07:18
test3r(contains useful C classes for noobs)07:18
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xjkxPumpernickel, would you mention any example that makes a DE hevier? i know kde comes with a lot of packages, but it would just keep space in HD, it wouldn't be in memory since it isnt in execution as long as you don't open the application, It's really interesting to understand, if you don't care explainning07:19
PumpernickelThere's lots of things that contribute.07:21
PumpernickelThe mindow manager, the file browser, various applets, how frequently-used libraries are implemented.07:22
PumpernickelThunar, for example, is much lighter than Nautilus or Konqueror.07:23
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xjkxAnd, the libraries are totally different between gnome and xfce, uh ho, i think i got it07:25
xjkxBut to people like me, who installs firefox wherever i am, uses xterm as file browser, the DE shouldn't make that much difference, but the libraries07:26
test3rthat libg++ is outdated to the point of Do Not Use. good thing i read descriptions. I wonder how I'm supposed to interface with C++ then? hopefully my book is new enough to know C++ has changed07:27
Catoptromancyhmmm preparing mount points seems unusally hard07:28
Pumpernickeltest3r: Most of what was in libg++ is in libstdc++.07:28
test3rwhich is already there.  Sweet07:29
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test3rdon't ya jus Love C     =D07:30
test3ri could kiss C.07:30
xjkxi couldnt, but i could kiss java07:30
Catoptromancyit says "no root file system"07:31
test3rjava is nice- but java cant compile me Doom to run on my tuxbox.07:31
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Catoptromancywhen i try to manually edit partition table07:31
test3rbut java is oop.  the c ive seen is very procedural.07:31
xjkxand xubuntu comes with firefox? sorry if i asked already07:38
PumpernickelYeah.07:39
xjkxthanks07:40
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test3rThe text editor that comes with Xubuntu, "mousepad," is lightweight, & very easy, too.07:43
Shaba1guys I did a search for php and mysql in synaptic07:48
Shaba1I came up with nothing07:48
Shaba1should I just go and dowload xamp07:48
Shaba1??07:48
Pumpernickel!info php507:49
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ubotuphp5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB07:49
Shaba1Sorry if that sound dumb07:49
malnilionUm, there's no way there is nothing in synaptic for phy or mysqly in synaptic07:49
malnilionphp, even07:49
malnilionjesus07:49
test3rdo u want Apache?07:49
malnilionI can't type07:49
Shaba1I already have all of it on the windows side07:49
Shaba1Well I really do not need apache07:49
Shaba1but I do web development07:49
Shaba1on a volunteer basis for non profits07:50
test3rso what r u trying to get ur box to do?07:50
test3redit code?07:50
Shaba1and I use a web server called badblue to do the things I need on my own computer07:50
Shaba1then upload to thier live webhost07:50
Shaba1badblue runs php and its small and lightweight07:50
Shaba1but I do not think they make a linux version07:51
test3ri think apache does that too yeah07:51
test3r=D07:51
test3rand PERL07:51
test3rdo u have PERL going too?07:51
test3rplaying w/ DNS ranges?07:51
Shaba1if you can reccomend a small webserver for linux I would be glad to yahoo for it07:51
test3r=x07:51
test3r..07:51
Shaba1I just thougth xamp becase its all in one apache,php and mysql all in one package07:51
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xjkxwhat mp3 player comes with xubuntu?07:54
test3rmy grrrrl dropt by.   Apache is the best server that i know of for linux- there might be another one that suits your needs better. the only thing you can do is- yes- use yahoo or Webcrawler to search based on words. perhaps- "lightweight linux server"07:55
test3ror use the search in Synaptic07:56
test3rthats usualy a good first try07:56
hyper_chhow can I kill Zombie processes07:56
test3rShaba1 > check for "dropbear" in synaptic. here is a link to a webpage about the prog- http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/8/dropbear.html   Maybe this one will work? Good luck!08:00
Pumpernickelhyper_ch: You can't, really.  They'll get cleaned up eventually by init.08:01
hyper_chPumpernickel: what means "eventually"? there are some that have been running for ages08:01
Pumpernickelhttp://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec6cantkill.html08:03
hyper_chPumpernickel: I'll reboot08:12
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hyper_chPumpernickel: how can I save the current session now? Without needing to reboot or logout?08:18
christofah no sorry it seems to wor08:20
Pumpernickelhyper_ch: Dunno.08:20
hyper_chPumpernickel: how comes there is something you don't know? ;)08:23
PumpernickelI'm human too - I can be allowed to not know stuff. ^^08:26
test3rim reading unix articles on interwebs08:28
hyper_chPumpernickel: and the next thing you'll tell me is that earth isn't flat? ^^08:30
Pumpernickelhyper_ch: It is flat, actually - there's photographic evidence. http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2608/flatearthmg7.jpg08:32
hyper_chPumpernickel: you know, there are some rumors that it isn't flat... what a rubbish... people would fall off if it was round08:33
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test3rwait i thought earth was brown, not round?08:40
test3ri think you misheard.08:40
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honkytonkwillieHaving bootup and login problems.08:47
honkytonkwillieI don't ever get to the usual login screen and have to boot into safe graphics mode.08:48
honkytonkwillieThen I login at a terminal, reconfig xserver-xorg, then startx and I'm back into my desktop environment but not as me.08:49
honkytonkwillieJust as the root user.08:49
honkytonkwillieAny ideas how to re-establish my user?08:50
honkytonkwillieAll of my user stuff is still in the /home/[username]  directory08:50
honkytonkwillieLogged in as rootuser, I go into terminal, login as [username] , and "startx"08:53
honkytonkwillieIt tries to start,08:53
honkytonkwilliebut aborts with the message08:54
honkytonkwillieXauth:  error in locking authority file /hone/[username] / .Xauthority08:55
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Ademandoes xfce have its own desktop widget/desklet system? (doesn't have to be officially part of the project, just like gDesklets)09:09
Ademanlike gDesklets is to GNOME *09:10
Pumpernickeladesklets09:15
Pumpernickelhonkytonkwillie: Delete the authority file and it should solve the error.09:16
Ademanappreciate it Pumpernickel09:17
Pumpernickelnp09:18
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hyper_chPumpernickel: where can adesklets be found?09:28
hyper_chPumpernickel: and btw, I have encrypted a partition with dm-crypt/luks and I'm asked at bootup to enter the pwd.... how can I make that after I enter the pwd the upsplash appears again? the cool dark feisty one :)09:29
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Pumpernickel!info adesklets09:36
ubotuadesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-2build1 (feisty), package size 204 kB, installed size 572 kB09:36
PumpernickelIt's there.09:36
hyper_ch:) great09:38
PumpernickelAs for usplash, what does it do now, after you enter the key?09:39
hyper_chit just keeps displaying the services being started until xdm is called09:39
Pumpernickelhm09:40
hyper_chthere are quite some nice desklets :)09:41
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hyper_chPumpernickel: how to find out the version of a currently installed library?09:46
PumpernickelCheck with the package manager, if you can.09:48
hyper_chyou want me to use the GUI???????09:49
hyper_ch*smile*09:49
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ephemeroshey09:49
hyper_chand another question: Why haven't I gotten any updates since about april 17 or april 16?09:50
hyper_chhi ephemeros09:50
ephemeroshi hyper_ch09:50
ephemeroshyper_ch: what package manager do you use?09:51
hyper_chephemeros: normally aptitude through the command line interface09:51
ephemerosoh09:51
hyper_chwhy?09:51
ephemerosi had the same problem, i unchecked updates in synaptic09:51
ephemerosi didn't know wtf is going on, i forgot i unchecked that for whatever reason09:52
Pumpernickelhyper_ch: usplash disappearing after entering the key is probably as a result of bug 6275109:53
ubotuMalone bug 62751 in cryptsetup "Upstart doesn't activate luks volumes (also non luks) in cryptsetup" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6275109:53
PumpernickelToo tired to finish tracking it down, though.09:53
hyper_chlooking at the bug... you didn't have to look it up... I thought you just may know why that is so09:54
hyper_chin synaptic I now enabled feisty-proposed and now there are 8 updates09:55
ephemerosquestion: anyone had sound problems in Feisty? i didn't have problems before, but in Xubuntu 7.04 i don't have sound in GAIM, also the Beep media played doesn't sound if receiving stream, just when playing mp3-s09:55
ephemeroshyper_ch: cool09:55
hyper_chephemeros: sounds for me works nice... but I don't use gaim09:55
ephemeros:))09:56
hyper_chbut I'm still a bit buzzled that there were no update from Beta to stable09:56
ephemeroshyper_ch: what version do you use?09:56
ephemerosfeisty beta updated?09:57
hyper_chephemeros: that's what I'm not sure about :)09:57
hyper_chephemeros: how to find out?09:57
ephemeroshyper_ch: i forgot :D09:57
hyper_chhehehe09:58
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ephemeroshyper_ch: just few dais ago it was written on the channel, i was sure i'll forget the command! :(09:58
mmeskoHi all, can you help me? I'm running non-commerical Internet Radio from Czech Republic but now i would like to migrate whole studio to linux platform. Can you give me good advices for some radio automation software for handling broadcast etc.. ?.. thx a lot09:58
hyper_chmmesko: what do you mean by radio automation software?09:59
hyper_ch!radio09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
ephemeros!version10:00
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell10:00
ephemeroshyper_ch: ^10:00
hyper_chhyper@xubi:/etc/apt$ lsb_release -a10:00
hyper_chNo LSB modules are available.10:00
hyper_chDistributor ID: Ubuntu10:00
hyper_chDescription:    Ubuntu 7.0410:00
hyper_chRelease:        7.0410:00
hyper_chCodename:       feisty10:00
hyper_chwell, is that still beta or stable?10:00
hyper_chmmesko: you want to just stream mp3s over the net?10:01
ephemerosit was released on 19, i don't know about your installation10:01
hyper_chephemeros: well, I had herd 5 then when it was declared beta there were updates10:01
hyper_chbut since april 17 I didn't get any updates... so I'm not sure if it's still beta or stable now10:01
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highvoltagehyper_ch: I think there should've been updates since then10:02
highvoltagehyper_ch: do you know which mirror you are using?10:02
ephemeroshyper_ch: the official download DCs are the final version10:02
highvoltageperhaps it hasn't updated recently for some reason.10:02
hyper_chhighvoltage: yes I know :)10:02
hyper_chSwiss SWITCH (backbone provider for Switzerland)10:02
ephemeroslol10:02
hyper_chand TLD provider for .ch and .li domains :)10:02
highvoltagehyper_ch: perhaps you should just see what happens when using archive.ubuntu.com, and then write a friendly email to switch letting them know that their mirror is not updating10:03
mmeskohyper_ch: radio automation software i mean smth like that: http://www.8bc.com/index_en.htm it's good system under windows. i'm searching smth similiar..10:04
mmeskohyper_ch: this software select music to play .. you can manage daily play-lists and set-up criteria to serve good spectrum of music10:04
hyper_chmmesko: the only thing that comes to my mind is icecast....10:05
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honkytonkwillieWhomever told me to delete the .Xauthority file about an hour ago,10:06
honkytonkwilliethanks a bunch.  It worked.10:06
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ephemeroshow can i found the sound system health info?10:06
hyper_chephemeros: you don't get any sound at all?10:07
ephemerosyes, i have on playing mp3's10:07
hyper_chephemeros: tried vlc? ^^10:07
ephemerosbut not in gaim (i don't know what it uses to play), and when listening to streams from Beep Media Player10:07
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ephemeroshyper_ch: i used it, but didn't install since i installed Feisty10:08
ephemerosanyway, if gaim is mute, there is a problem10:08
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hyper_chmmesko: You can try IceCase in windows http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/icecast/icecast2_win32_v2.3.1_setup.exe10:09
ephemeros!sound10:11
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:11
ephemeroscool! thanx, ubotu10:11
hyper_chhmmm, Seveas hasn't setup a feisty repository yet, right?10:15
Seveashyper_ch, I have :)10:16
Seveassince yesterday10:16
hyper_chyou have? ok :) so I jus change edgy to feisty?10:16
Seveasstill ironing out some wrinkles though10:16
hyper_chso I better leave it then to edgy ^^10:16
hyper_chlibdvdcss2 updated in the new feisty repo :)10:19
hyper_chso, if I could solve that amarok problem then I'm settled :)10:19
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roy913Dear All, I have installed the totem player on 6.10 but when i try to play dvd then:11:36
roy913it said: totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to hand it11:37
TheSheep!codecs11:37
roy913handle it11:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:37
stefgroy913: you need libdvdcss... which isn't legal in mst countries11:37
roy913thanks!!!!!11:37
roy913thank you!!11:37
stefg!DVD11:37
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs11:37
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sponixany plans of a xubuntu-server release ?11:50
hyper_chsponix: what you need a xubuntu-server for?11:52
sponixhyper_ch:  is the normal solution to just install ubuntu-server, and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?   :)11:53
hyper_chif you want the desktop install the xubuntu-destkop from the desktop or alternate cd and then isntall the server services11:53
sponixyeah... good point11:54
sponixhave most of the repos already started supporting feisty ?11:55
hyper_chthe only thing I can think of to first isntall the server is to have a pure ubuntu and then add Xfce from the Xfce repos11:55
hyper_chsponix: define "most"11:55
sponixskype, ekiga, ntfs-3g, vlc, medibuntu etc11:57
hyper_chis there an ubuntu specific skype package?12:00
hyper_chwell, those packages that are in the official repos are available on feisty...12:03
hyper_chand for the rest, that you have to know yourself12:04
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sponixthanks12:09
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stefgcan someone give me a number on how big is a default xubuntu-install? I had xubuntu 6.10 and that took approx 1.3 Gigs, i upgraded now it's nearly 2 Gigs. Bloat or mistake?12:14
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TheSheepstefg: run 'sudo apt-get clean'12:20
TheSheepstefg: that will remove the downloaded and already installed packages from cache12:20
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stefgTheSheep: ty, that was /without/ /var/apt/cache ... that's on a different partition12:21
stefgI'm just interested if something went wrong or if xubuntu went that large12:21
TheSheepstefg: mu install is 4G, so I can't help you :)12:22
TheSheepmy12:22
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hyper_chmy install is 6.2 GB :)12:30
hyper_chmaking now a clean12:30
hyper_chnow it's 3.6 gb :)12:31
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stefgIf you have an old laptop with a 4 GB hd, that make quite a difference :_)12:33
hyper_chthen you should maybe use fluxbunt12:34
hyper_chor DSL12:34
hyper_chbut then best ist do do a clean install12:34
hyper_chusing server and install the packages you need12:34
stefgThat's what i was considering. But want to know if it's worth the effort before12:35
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graziestefg: I've done some testing one this issue with following approx results12:37
hyper_chthe "worthiness" of something is a subjective element and cannot be objectivel defined12:37
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graziestefg: I clean feisty install take about 1.6G12:38
stefgah... a figure... thanks.12:38
graziestefg: An upgrade from clean edgy to feisty will about 400/500mb more even after cleaning up!12:38
stefggrazie, that's what i was suspecting12:39
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stefgsuggestion for a good ppp-dialup frontend for xfce? need to get modem working and don't feel like editing wvdial.conf every time in a different place...12:43
stefggnome-ppp does it12:46
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superhuberthey02:10
superhubertI'm trying to set up my wireless card in my iBook G4. anyone know what to do?02:11
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infblisshi can somebody tell me what is the command line for hibernate02:13
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_MMA_Hi all. Do I have to stop XFCE from managing the desktop for it to stop showing volumes on the desktop?03:22
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predaeus_MMA_, Applications/Settings/Desktop settings/behaviour/desktop icons03:24
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_MMA_predaeus: Killer. Thanx. I missed it somehow.03:26
predaeus:-)03:27
eifzoncan you use beryl on all dists?03:27
eifzonwhy cant i press alt+1 in terminal when i am using irssi?03:30
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h3sp4wneifzon: xterm ?03:35
eifzonh3sp4wn: think its xfce4's own Terminal03:35
eifzonI just installed it so03:35
h3sp4wnXTerm*metaSendsEscape: true (in .Xresources for xterm) don't know about xfce's terminal03:36
h3sp4wnthere might be something in the options to make it act similar03:36
eifzonokok03:36
ochosianyone here who has feisty running with an ati-card?03:40
eifzonati = Anti linux card03:40
ochosiwell, that doesn't help much, but i guess youre right03:40
h3sp4wnexcept <=9250 which work better than any nvidia card I have tried03:40
eifzonok03:40
ochosianyways, anyone an idea how to get gdm to run with x1400?03:41
ochosiactually: i read few posts about it on the ubuntuforums.org, but it seems i can't install the fglrx-package03:41
ochosiwhich is why i can't follow any guides03:41
ceil420lol eifzon03:42
eifzonwhat ceil420 ? :P03:42
ceil420poor ati :p03:42
eifzoni got geforce..03:42
eifzonbut it doesent work for me ;)03:42
eifzonlalalaa,03:42
ceil420i got a geforce too, but i've had a coupla issues with it :x03:43
eifzonok.03:43
ceil420(like not bein' able to run UT)03:43
eifzonwhen i am trying to install my graphic card driver, either my screen is being black03:43
ochosiso any of you got an idea why apt-get doesn't find the package "xorg-drivers-fglrx"?03:43
eifzoni got a (XFX GeForce 7900 GT 470 M)03:43
ochosiit gives me some error message, that this package is being referred to by another package, but it cant find it03:43
h3sp4wn!info xorg-driver-fglrx03:44
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.34.8+2.6.20.5-15.20 (feisty), package size 5998 kB, installed size 17224 kB03:44
ceil420mine's not so new, but it should still be able to handle an 8 year old game :x (FX 5200)03:44
ochosi(usually i would assume that something is missing in the sources.list, but i have everything uncommented that's there)03:45
ceil420i have three apt-cache search results for xorg-driver-fglrx03:45
ochosihmm, my apt-cache couldn't dinf it03:45
ceil420note that "driver" is singular03:46
ochosiyeah, was a typo before03:46
h3sp4wnaptitude search xorg~nfglrx03:46
ochosistrange, i get a result from aptitude03:47
ochosibut when i try to install it says no candidate version found03:48
ceil420o_O03:48
ochosi(have i mentioned that not even vesa works?)03:48
ochosican anyone help me with this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39991303:51
ochosii don't really understand how that's supposed to work: Uncomment all the deb and deb-src linescomment out the CD lines.03:51
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hyper_chufff... finally dne04:01
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grazieochosi: know idea if that guide works, but uncomment means removing the # from the start of the line04:03
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grazieochosi: comment out means adding # to the start of the line04:03
Jester45i just got fiesty but now my screen is off centered and the screen's auto adjust doesnt fix how to do fix it04:03
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ber1please help. i'm trying to install xubuntu alongside my ubuntu and when i choose the option of "guided partition" it says "The test of the file system with type ext3 in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) found uncorrected errors.04:16
ber1If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct these errors, the partition will be used as is." so then i try to continue and it says "An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation is aborted." then it brings me to a "Prepare Partitions" screen but i don't seem to be able to do anything on it. help?04:16
ber1i'm kind of stuck here. anybody got any ideas?04:19
predaeusyou could ask in #ubuntu as this problem is not specific to xubuntu I would guess and there is more traffic there04:19
grazieber1: you have tried booting in recovery mode and fixing the problem?04:21
graziehave you* ^^04:21
ber1no sir. are you referring to safe mode on the xubuntu live cd?04:21
ber1or on ubuntu04:21
grazieber1: I thought you had ubuntu already installed?04:22
ber1i do04:22
grazieber1: then boot in recovery mode to fix the problem. use fsck on the partition that's giving errors. make sure the partition is unmounted first04:23
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Maximilian1stHi, how can I ask "ps -ae | grep wp" and add more search criterias like Ne and nm?04:40
hyper_chMaximilian1st: what are thos criterias? What are you trying to do?04:41
Maximilian1stHi Switzerland :-)04:43
Maximilian1stsorry, was away for a sec.04:43
hyper_chhiho :)04:43
hyper_chI have my ajax tree thingy finished now :)04:43
Maximilian1stI am just trying to look for the ps id numbers of NetworkManager04:43
Maximilian1stCongratulations, I saw you had a website with genealogy or something the like?04:43
hyper_chwouldn't htop in a hierarchical view do that?04:44
Maximilian1st I am just trying to look for the ps id numbers of NetworkManager, nm-applet and wpa-supplicant04:44
Maximilian1stThat sounds good.04:44
hyper_chMaximilian1st: well, sort of... I'm in a fraternity here and as new member you take an older one as mentor and that way some kind of "families" are created04:44
hyper_chand so far we noted that all in Excel04:44
Maximilian1stI see.04:45
Maximilian1stYou are also the one responsible for the ubuntu stickers in switzerland aren't you?04:45
Maximilian1stJust a deduction, the address for switzerland was in St-Gallen04:45
Maximilian1stAnd you are there... no?!04:46
Maximilian1stor Chur? Not sure anymore.04:46
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Maximilian1stfor the ps thing. I am trying to kill nm-applet and NetworkManager and wpa-supplicant and reload wpa-sup with the dbus option turned on so I can give airconfig a try.04:47
Maximilian1sthyper_ch, Did you know about airconfig? It looks promising. I try to advertise it a bit here because it frees xubuntu from using NM for the wireless connection04:48
kmahmm04:51
ephemerosquestion: if i have a problem with a software installed from universe repo, where should i report the bugs?04:51
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eifzonAnyone here that got "Avant Window Navigator" on 7.04 fiesty (xfce4)?04:53
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Maximilian1st!vmware-player04:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware-player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:55
hyper_chhmmm04:55
hyper_chback again04:55
hyper_chMaximilian1st: did you try htop now?04:55
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Maximilian1stno04:56
Maximilian1stwait04:56
hyper_chwhat about vmware?04:56
Maximilian1stthe installation of it is broken04:56
Maximilian1stI tried severeal times before and it never really worked04:56
Maximilian1stNow I tried with my newly installed 2.6.20-15 kernel but it crashes the same way as before04:57
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMDSempron2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 310/897GB, RAM: 988/1010MB, 150 proc's, 8.21h up04:57
hyper_chwhat error do you get?04:57
hyper_chvmware is broken for you or htop?04:57
Maximilian1stI install it, it triggers the modules automatically, tries to configure it, there is some vmnet8 that says failed and in the end it says sorry04:58
Maximilian1stvmware04:58
hyper_chMaximilian1st: wanna try vmware server?04:58
Maximilian1sthtop won't install now because vmware-player is broken04:58
hyper_chcan you isntall anything?04:58
Maximilian1stit says to try to apt-get -f install before going any further.04:58
hyper_chdid you try?04:59
Maximilian1stwell I can't install htop.04:59
ephemeros!bugs04:59
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:59
Maximilian1stLes paquets supplmentaires suivants seront installs:04:59
Maximilian1st  vmware-player-kernel-modules vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-1504:59
Maximilian1stIt wants to install the packages again, but I know it will fail, it always did.05:00
hyper_chdon't use the player :)05:00
hyper_chremove those :)05:00
Maximilian1sthyper_ch, really?05:00
Maximilian1stI just want to use my xp image.05:01
hyper_chwhy use the player if you can install the server05:01
Maximilian1stI have an XP image I created with qemu and it works.05:01
hyper_chwhich allows you to create and modifiy the machines05:01
Maximilian1stAh.05:01
Maximilian1stBut why is the player broken in feisty.05:01
hyper_chnever tried the player :)05:01
Maximilian1stI understand.05:01
Maximilian1stStill some people, like me, will try to install it and will come into trouble by doing so.05:02
hyper_chwell, can you remove those packages?05:02
Maximilian1stBecause once you run into this problem, you can't uninstall it easily.05:02
Maximilian1stno you can't.05:03
Maximilian1stthat's the big deal here.05:03
Maximilian1stI have to dig in google to find some howto that explains how you need to uninstall that.05:03
PumpernickelYou can always remove packages.  `dpkg -r`05:03
Maximilian1stPumpernickel, even that won't remove the package.05:06
PumpernickelThen add --force-remove-reinstreq05:11
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Maximilian1stPumpernickel, even that does not work.05:17
PumpernickelError message?05:17
Maximilian1sthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17070/05:17
PumpernickelWow, VMware really is badly packaged.05:19
Maximilian1stPumpernickel, probably not much folks using it. Yet someone just told he could install it without a problem using feisty.05:23
Maximilian1stPumpernickel, I will try plugging in the cable for the wired connection.05:24
PumpernickelI was about to suggest slightly more drastic measures; killing all running vmware processes and rm'ing all startup scripts.05:26
PumpernickelIf the cable works, though - rock on.05:26
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Maximilian1st_Pumpernickel, After a reboot the package can be removed, though I think it is due to the fact that I now have the wired ethernet up.05:33
PumpernickelAh, good.05:33
Maximilian1st_Pumpernickel, Now I will try re-installing it with the wired ethernet plugged in and see if that solves the problem here.05:34
Maximilian1st_Pumpernickel, hyper_ch I'm done with it. It does not work to install the player. I will now follow hyper_ch's advice and install the server package.05:42
kmahmm.. a lightweight acdsee?05:50
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Maximilian1stPumpernickel, is there a way to compare ubuntu packages? Because the 2.6.20-13 packages for vmware-player used to work. I installed this kernel to test it but it did not work with my SDcard device and now this kernel 2.6.20-15 works with my SDcard device but not with vmware-player.05:54
Maximilian1stI would like to compare the packages and see what has changed in between... If it has.05:54
Maximilian1stI think I will install vmware-player manually, compiling it against the current kernel and see if that works.05:55
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eifzonwhy cant i use alt+f1 in xterm ?06:11
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Maximilian1stPumpernickel, I have installed vmware-player from source package, by using the vmware-any-any patch found on http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/06:22
Maximilian1stvmplayer works now. :-)06:22
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PiTcReWhey guys06:45
PiTcReWhow do i make an executable to launch azureus?06:45
PiTcReWi have a .desktop file to do it06:45
PiTcReWbut i want to add an executable to my xfce menu06:46
h3sp4wnalt + f2 - type azureus06:46
PiTcReWnopee06:46
PiTcReWdoesnt work06:47
PiTcReWthis is what the .desktop looks like06:48
PiTcReW[Desktop Entry] 06:48
PiTcReWVersion=1.006:48
PiTcReWEncoding=UTF-806:48
PiTcReWType=Application06:48
PiTcReWName=Azureus06:48
PiTcReWComment=06:48
PiTcReWCategories=Application;06:48
PiTcReWExec=./azureus06:48
PiTcReWIcon=06:48
PiTcReWTerminal=true06:48
PiTcReWStartupNotify=false06:48
PiTcReWGenericName=06:48
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ryan_how do you reconfigure xorg06:49
h3sp4wndpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
h3sp4wn+sudo06:49
Naughtyboyguys...anyone here using mplayer or gmplayer..?06:49
ryan_Naughtyboy: im using mplayer06:50
ryan_why06:50
h3sp4wnI am using mplayer also06:50
Naughtyboyryan_, : very good...when you are using it...are using the contrast/brightness thru the player or system wide..?06:51
Naughtyboyh3sp4wn, : question goes for u to,,,06:51
ryan_i just use mplayer <file>06:51
ryan_im not using gmplayer06:51
ryan_so im guesssing system wide setting06:52
Naughtyboyyeah..OK...but still....do you sett contrast/brightness...or just use it as is..?!?!06:52
Naughtyboyok06:52
h3sp4wnI just use it as is06:52
Naughtyboyhmm....OK06:52
h3sp4wn(but I am not using a tv-out so its not necessary for me to change it)06:52
NaughtyboyI can't get it to save my settings so it uses it all the time...every time I play a new file...the settings are default..06:53
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Naughtyboyh3sp4wn, : me neither...but the settings I use for my desktop is to dark for watching my movies...at least for my taste..06:54
h3sp4wnthere is ~/mplayer/config06:54
NaughtyboyI VLC for example...I can set contrast/brightness e.t.c manually and save it so it use it all the time06:54
whitelampyo will i have any problems if i upgrade from xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10?06:54
Naughtyboyh3sp4wn, : yeah I've looked there to...but I can't find anythiong related to my settings....nu brightness06:55
h3sp4wnwhitelamp: If you are going to upgrade I would go - 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.0406:55
whitelampwell will there be any problems if i do?06:56
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ryan_whitelamp, there was problems upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 im not sure if they fixed it i would try 6.06 -> 7/0407:00
ryan_and back up configuration files just incase it messes up07:01
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TheSheepupgrading two versions in one step is not supported at all07:01
h3sp4wnI think if I had to do it I would install enough to get 7.04's aptitude installed then perform the rest of the upgrade with that07:04
h3sp4wnbut do it in one step07:04
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odathi everyone07:07
odathow do i make myplayer my default movie player?07:07
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grazieTheSheep: glad you state that upgrading, as a lot of poeple seem think it is with the new update manager07:09
graziestated*07:09
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odathow do i make mplayer my default movie player07:12
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Howdy125Kind of weird .. I uninstalled openoffice and it removed thunderbird also .. :-/07:13
slow-motionhallo07:14
odathowdy what wrong07:14
Mercheloodat: did you try through thunar?07:14
odatMerchelo, no i didn't07:14
grazieodat: a few different ways...easiest is probably is to right click on on the movie (in thunar) and select "open with", Xfce remembers07:15
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TheSheepodat: or select properties and change it there07:16
odatgrazie, i am trying to set it up so when i download a movie with firefox it pops up asking if i want to open it with mplayer07:16
odatHowdy125, whats you problem?07:17
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TheSheepodat: ah, that's in the firefox configuration07:17
odatTheSheep, where at?07:17
TheSheepodat: content -> file types07:18
grazieodat: TheSheep beet me07:18
Howdy125odat, don't have one .. just thought it was weird that removing openoffice would also remove thinderbird .. was easy to reinstall thunderbird.07:18
hyper_chhiho07:18
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TheSheepHowdy125: maybe it was installed as dependecy when you installe OO in the first place?07:19
Howdy125TheSheep, could have been ..07:19
TheSheepHowdy125: or when uninstalling OO you removed one thing too much :)07:19
Howdy125;)07:19
ryan_when ever i try to use fglrx as a driver xserver will not start but it works with the "ati" driver anyone    know why07:19
h3sp4wnon what card07:20
odatTheSheep, nope its not in there07:21
TheSheepodat: just add it07:21
TheSheepodat: the default file types are not displayed, but you can override them07:21
ryan_its a radeon 925007:21
h3sp4wnuse the free drivers work perfectly07:22
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odatTheSheep, you can't just add anything07:22
ryan_it worked before but i uninstalled linux on the harddrive07:23
ryan_and now i dont know how to get it back07:23
h3sp4wnYou really don't want fglrx on a 925007:23
ryan_h3sp4wn: how im i gonna play games without a good driver07:23
h3sp4wnits not supported by ati anymore07:23
h3sp4wnits a perfect driver07:23
h3sp4wn(well for what I care about anyway)07:23
ryan_but it doesnt let me havee 3d stuff does it07:24
h3sp4wnIt does07:24
Mercheloryan_: feisty ?07:24
ryan_yes07:24
h3sp4wnRV280       Radeon 9200PRO/9200/9200SE, M9+07:24
h3sp4wn(from man 4 radeon)07:25
ryan_i have a 925007:25
TheSheepodat: you are right07:26
TheSheephow weird07:26
h3sp4wnryan_: which is RV28007:27
ryan_so it gives me full support07:27
ryan_just as the ati driver would07:27
h3sp4wnyes - tv out is a little more hassle to setup07:28
h3sp4wnother than that its fine07:28
TheSheepodat: found it07:28
TheSheepodat: in the location bar, enter "about:config"07:28
TheSheepodat: in the box below type 'plugin'07:28
TheSheepodat: you should see a number of options about plugins07:28
ryan_huuumm i was hoping for tv out07:29
TheSheepodat: enable the plugin.override_internal_types07:29
TheSheepodat: then go to that dialog in preferences again07:29
ryan_brb agin07:32
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BFTDhey all07:40
hyper_chhiho BFTD07:42
BFTDdoes anyone know of a MP3 player that is known to work well with Linux other then iPods?07:43
hyper_chamarok07:44
hyper_chsorr07:44
hyper_chsorry07:44
hyper_chyou mean hardware... hmm07:44
hyper_chnope :)07:44
hyper_ch!mp3player07:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:44
TheSheepBFTD: any one that can be used as usb disk will work07:45
BFTDah great07:45
TheSheepBFTD: pick one that can play .ogg07:45
hyper_chrockbox on ipod can play .ogg :)07:45
hyper_chis the auto-compiz thingy in feisty only available in ubuntu?07:47
BFTDhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855199001 ----- this one or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855613003   this one07:50
BFTDwhich do you like better?07:51
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HarpetteDoes anyone know the MD5sums for the xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso ?07:52
BFTDHarpette it should be on the download site07:53
HarpetteBFTD: i'm asking here because i failed to find it07:54
BFTDoh ok07:54
BFTDI'll look for it then07:54
BFTD!checksum07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:54
hyper_chBFTD: 512mb isn't that much07:54
BFTDhyper_ch I hada shuffle for the longest time, only filled it half way up07:55
Merchelosecond one looks nicer.07:55
hyper_chBFTD: :)07:56
BFTDHarpette https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM07:58
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petefacehello all07:59
BFTDhello07:59
petefaceim havin an issue with somethin who wants to help lol?07:59
HarpetteBFTD: very nice, but the xubuntu hashes are missing08:00
petefacenobody :(08:00
Harpettepeteface: do not ask to ask, just ask08:00
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petefacelol that works08:00
BFTDoops08:00
BFTDthats ubuntu08:00
petefaceok long story short i have to hard drives and on one hard drive i have 2 os's installed (windows xp and ubuntu) how can i listein to my music and look at my pictures from the second hard drve using ubuntu08:01
peteface2*08:01
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TheSheep!mount08:02
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:02
TheSheep!fstab08:02
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:02
Morpheus_74Hello.  Is there anyone who can help me with a display issue I'm having?08:02
TheSheep!ask | Morpheus_7408:02
ubotuMorpheus_74: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:02
Morpheus_74I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu 7.04, and I cannot get the display for tty1,2,3... right.08:03
TheSheepMorpheus_74: your graphics card?08:04
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Harpettepeteface: you need to mount the Windows partition when running Linux so that you be able to access your files there08:04
Morpheus_74TheSheep: I'm not sure.  After playing with the xorg file, I was able to get X to display at 1024 X 769 @ 85HZ (crt monitor), but ttys display a HUGE font.08:05
h3sp4wn769 not 768?08:05
TheSheepMorpheus_74: that's normal, they are 80x25 by default08:05
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Morpheus_74TheSheep: But the font size is so large that I cannot see what I'm typing because if flows off the screen.  Also, the login screen for X is smaller than 1024 X 768, and after entering my user name and password, the screen goes blank, then displays XFCE in 1024 X 768.08:07
h3sp4wnI use a framebuffer console but there is another way (svgatextmode)08:07
TheSheeph3sp4wn: I never got svgatextmode to work in ubuntu :/08:08
Morpheus_74TheSheep: Although the display settings inside of X say it's refresh rate is 85Hz, I'm not sure that's the case because it's still tough on my eyes.08:08
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Jester45ok im using the ati driver and its fine and i got beryl working in just a few mins08:09
Morpheus_74My card is a AGP VGA Intel740.08:09
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h3sp4wnTheSheep: Interesting I might have a go (just vga=794 is fine for me though) - 792 I think for 1024x76808:11
HarpetteMorpheus_74: you can also try ##linux or #linpeople here08:11
Morpheus_74Thanks all.08:12
HarpetteMorpheus_74: basically your pbm is the huge fonts in the ttys08:12
Morpheus_74Harpette: Yes.08:12
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Harpettedoes xubuntu use the sams kernel as ubuntu ?08:14
Harpettesame08:14
Jester45yes08:14
HarpetteOK, so, no framebuffer by default, right?08:14
Jester45idk08:15
Morpheus_74Harpette: I'm not sure, how can I tell?08:15
Jester45most of the "core" system things are the same for  (X,K,Ed)ubuntu08:15
HarpetteMorpheus_74: do a dmesg | grep "Kernel command" in a terminal window08:18
Morpheus_74Harpette: The result is "Kernel command line:........"08:19
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HarpetteMorpheus_74: what's it say after the colon, where you say "......."08:19
Morpheus_74Harpette: root=UUID=340e1985-9f94-46f3-be79-5cf496d673a3 ro quiet splash08:20
HarpetteMorpheus_74: OK it looks like you're not activating a framebuffer08:20
Harpette...so that's out of the way08:21
Morpheus_74Harpette: Do I want to activate framebuffer?08:21
godlessUhh.08:21
Morpheus_74brb08:22
godlessSo I upgraded my desktop box to feisty. Everything appeared to go smoothly. However rhythmbox was randomly crashing. So I thought I would launch it in a terminal and see what was what. Turns out, whenever I launch a terminal window  (or try to, anyway) my screen goes glitchy for a second and I get knocked back out to the login screen. Any thoughts?08:23
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Morpheus_74I'm back, had to adjust my refresh rate, my eyes were starting to hur08:26
HarpetteMorpheus_74: remember to try ##linux and #linpeople. Good luck08:27
godlessStrangely, tilda works. But if I launch 'Terminal' from tilda-- zaaap, back to the login.08:27
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Delco2hi08:34
Delco2Q?: can xubuntu be run in RAM? without install. I have 256K of RAM.08:35
Mercheloin ram ? only 256kb of ram ?08:35
Morpheus_74Delco2: Do you mean can you Xubuntu as a live CD (without installing it to your hard drive)?08:35
Delco2256K of ram. yes Morpheus_74 as a live CD08:36
Merchelo!ram08:36
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html08:36
Delco2Marpheus, this is possible. yes. (appologise for the dumb Q. newb here)08:38
Morpheus_74Delco2: I ran the Xubuntu 7.04 live Cd on my pc with 425mb of ram.08:38
Morpheus_74Delco2: I think you can give it a shot.08:38
Delco2k08:38
Delco2Morpheus, thanks.08:39
Delco2it always freezes at 'loading essential drivers' for me08:39
Delco2know any command line switches to load all in ram; no swap and noMDA?08:41
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milkiMy OpenOffice installation doesn't display ANY menu or toolbar icons when started under XFCE; works fine under Gnome however. Is there a difference between the version on the Xubuntu CD and the vanilla Ubuntu package? (7.04)08:48
TheSheepmilki: try installing openoffice-gtk08:52
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milkiHad been installed per default I think. I already tried removing the -gtk and the -gnome package, but that did only slightly change the appearance, not the icon displaying.08:54
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Howdy125Also when you open oo select .. file .. new .. writer or what ever and you'll get what you'd expect to see milki  .. If I understand your problem that is ..08:54
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TheSheepmilki: change the icon theme in the settings?08:57
test3rI awoke this morning & had a moment of clarity- literally. i decided i should hook up my NEC MultiSync75 to my linux box instead of my POS Presario monitor & I was very correct. Now- I wish I had a way of probing my monitor to learn it's refresh rates. Is there any easy way to see what my monitor is capable of beFORE changing my xorg.conf ???08:57
test3rshould i just try the display tool built into xubuntu?08:58
TheSheeptest3r: X will probe it automatically if there is no refresh rates set in xorg.conf08:58
TheSheeptest3r: using dde08:58
TheSheepddc08:58
TheSheepsorry08:58
test3rthere must be something set than because on the NEC monitor the menu tells me the Horiz & Vert ref rates its being sent08:59
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test3rand they are still very low- like it probed the Presario mon to set those specs08:59
test3r48 horiz 60 vert it says08:59
test3rthats horrid08:59
test3r=(08:59
Howdy125milki, I think this is what you're talking about .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163129509:00
Howdy125I didn't try any of those fixes though ..09:00
test3rwait a sec- so Sheep if i just delete them entirely, you say, im better off? ill just try a # on the lines to comment. lemme find the spot-09:01
test3rthey are both in the section "monitor"09:01
test3rok yeah, so can i safely comment those lines out then?09:02
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test3rlol, ok here goes nuthin. ctrlaltbakspace09:06
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shawn34can't find the md5sums on ubuntu site? anyone know where they are?09:08
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grazieshawn34: they should be on the http and ftp servers download pages09:10
shawn34grazie, i just found them with google lol, thanks though09:10
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test3rthat sucked, Sheep. now i lost my higher resolution, and in the Display dialog, only the old modes are listed. in my monitor section, there is an "Option    DPMS" - is that normal? or should i comment that out too? or should i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:14
test3rlol.09:14
test3ri almost did it from tty1, but then thought id better ask 1st.09:15
h3sp4wnDPMS is powersaving afaik you don't have to have it09:16
test3roh OK, ty h3sp4wn09:17
h3sp4wnIt definately doesn't hurt to have it though09:17
test3ryeah ill jus leave that09:17
test3rim thinkin letting xorg solve the monitor thing tho is good09:17
test3rill just b sure to bakup my xorg.conf....    Again....    =)09:18
test3rhopefully when i return ill b in glorious 1024x768@24b@75hrz09:19
h3sp4wntest3r: did you use a modeline or ?09:19
hyper_chhiho, i can't use the shift keys anymore...09:20
hyper_chI had to turn off the xconfiguration and now it works again...09:21
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hyper_chnow something is definitively wrong with my computer09:22
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Cable86what do i need to do on my xubuntu box in order to use krdc from my kubuntu box?09:32
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h3sp4wnkrdc is like rdesktop right ? its usually used to connect to windows terminal services09:33
Cable86hm09:33
Cable86it can do vnc connections too09:33
h3sp4wnfor unix to unix I would use free-nx09:33
Cable86gotcha09:33
h3sp4wn!freenx09:34
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX09:34
Cable86nice, didnt know you could do that...thanks09:34
h3sp4wnI have set it up before (but haven't used it recently - just ssh is fine for what I need)#09:35
Cable86im assuming the directions there will work for feisty as well?09:35
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h3sp4wnNot sure09:40
test3rok whelp it appears my gForce2 is still limiting my refresh, but the xserver-xorg reconfigure went well, then I simply added the ONE patch that is on the BinaryDriverHowTo page, now, and I have direct rendering to the driver that was previously in place. It all went very smooth & I'm surprised honestly.09:41
test3rso now i got my 1024x768, but at a medium refresh but still better than it was09:41
h3sp4wntest3r: You can edit the lines09:41
h3sp4wnModes           "1280x1024_60" "1024x768_60" "800x600_60" "640x480_60" (that is what I use to hardcode 60)09:42
test3rsee I told it to do 75hrz though in the x reconfigure.09:42
test3ryes and it appears my gForce2 can only push 6009:42
test3r48,6009:42
h3sp4wnYou can make a modeline also09:43
h3sp4wnare you using a crt right ?09:43
test3rits fine it looks alot better now than my junky Presario monitor from 199009:43
test3ryes a MultiSync7509:43
h3sp4wnthe nvidia driver respects 1280x1024_75 etc09:44
test3ri think that ones gettin sold   =/09:44
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test3rok i cheked inside the manual which was luckily still in the box, and yeah, that gForce2 supports 1024x768 at up to 120hrz refresh09:46
test3rok ill give that syntax a try09:46
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test3rheh, now its all squished & fishbowl. ah well at least i know this will be better on my eyes. ill get used to it09:49
test3rweird thing though- the internal monitor menu still reports the same refresh frequencies09:50
test3rsooooOooo, it might be a sudo-refresh or something. im not sure.09:50
h3sp4wnhow are you determining the refresh rate ?09:50
h3sp4wnand what nvidia driver are you using ?09:51
test3ri hit the "select" btn on the front of the multisync then exit its menu09:51
test3rlegacy09:51
test3r(the NEC MultiSync is my monitor- just to clear tthat up)09:53
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h3sp4wnI don't know about legacy (the twinview stuff for 9xxx + messes up xrandr)09:54
test3ryes this monitor Does have twinview option.09:55
test3rer sry card09:55
test3rgForce MX 40009:55
test3ri should include the Option under my "nvidia" line in xorg.conf  to IgnoreDisplayDevices DFP,TV  ???09:56
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test3rsounds like a good try bb09:56
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test3rit's all still the same. at least now we know that the twinview isnt messing it up though09:59
test3rits nice though i like it because it seems like i have more screen space the way it is now10:00
test3rthe icons are tall and skinny lol10:00
h3sp4wnhttp://pastebin.ca/453160 (that is what I use mostly just done by hand though)10:02
test3ryeah - thats the opposite of what We have to do with the legacy cards pretty much10:04
test3rthank you though- that will come in handy someday, im sure10:05
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test3rlets see if i can get mine up there10:05
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h3sp4wnDynamicTwinView I don't want as it makes xrandr report rubbish10:05
hyper_chhmmm, Amarok alone is worth it to ditch Windoze :)10:05
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h3sp4wnamarok is the only gui program I use most of the time10:06
h3sp4wnoh firefox quite a bit too10:06
hyper_chyou use a gui browser? ;)10:07
h3sp4wnI use links2 where its practical10:07
hyper_ch^^10:08
h3sp4wnunfortunately due to poor webdesigners I cannot use it as much as I would like10:08
hyper_chespecially on flash only sites :)10:08
Harun_abd_As-SamI am trying to install xubuntu on an old computer of mine. The screen gets garbled after it starts the install. I think it is using too high a frequency for the old monitor. How do I tell it at install to start at a lower refresh/frequency?10:08
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: I don't have flash at all10:09
hyper_chHarun_abd_As-Sam: running the desktop or alternate cd?10:09
Harun_abd_As-SamI am running the desktop CD10:09
test3rhere is my xorg.conf-    http://pastebin.ca/45317210:09
hyper_chh3sp4wn: but other websites are somtimes flash only... then you don't have much fun with links210:09
hyper_chHarun_abd_As-Sam: how much ram have you got?10:09
h3sp4wnhyper_ch: Anything that is flash only I am not interested in anyway (don't have it for firefox even)10:10
test3rSam > use an " _ " after the vid size in the xorg.conf10:10
hyper_chh3sp4wn: some flash stuff is interesting :) pandora.com for example10:10
test3rlike "1024x768_75"10:10
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test3rSam - you could also boot to recovery mode from grub, then issue a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:12
h3sp4wntest3r: try looking for the monitor specs somewhere - and set HorizSync / VertRefresh right10:12
Harun_abd_As-SamI can't change the xorg.conf, this is a problem at install time10:12
test3rthat will take you back through the setup process - this time choose Medium style monitor resolution selection10:12
test3ryes that is a problem sam lol10:12
hyper_chHarun_abd_As-Sam: then you may want to try the alternate install cd10:12
h3sp4wntest3r: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl (then make a modeline with that)10:13
Harun_abd_As-SamI can set it to a low VGA mode at install time and it displays ok for a bit, then it switches again and goes scrambled10:13
test3rand Bookmarkt. nice10:14
test3ryeah lets search.....10:14
h3sp4wntest3r: does xrandr (list meaningful refresh rates)10:15
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Harun_abd_As-SamIs there a way to make it prompt me for what refresh rate to use in the install?10:16
bubazooso far I've tried downloading xubuntu 7.04 5 times, and each time I get a different md5sum, weird10:17
bubazooesp since i'm using bittorrent10:17
hyper_chbubazoo: then maybe download it from the servers :)10:19
hyper_chI haven't had any bad .iso download since I used dapper10:19
test3rSam > boot to recovery mode from grub, then issue a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:20
test3rthats that spot when u boot up where it says  3....2.....1...10:21
test3rhit esc10:21
h3sp4wnHarun_abd_As-Sam: Did you look at the boot prompt for a safe mode (try the f keys)10:21
test3rthen select recovery10:21
h3sp4wnits different with syslinux or isolinux10:21
h3sp4wndoesn't use grub10:21
Harun_abd_As-Sammachine is an old box of mine, was running (and still is) Debian 3.0. I want to ditch that replacing it with Xubuntu. I tried vga safe mode and it actually had the same problem.10:21
test3ri thought it was already installed h3sp4wn10:22
test3rnot from LiveCD10:22
bubazoohyper_ch  I am sorry, I have tried downloading it from the servers, still get wrong md5sum10:22
h3sp4wnwell you can dist-upgrade to warty from debian 3.0 and then dist-upgrade all the way up (doubt it would work cleanly though)10:22
test3rif he neds to change refresh on the livecd i have no idea what option to add to the kernel10:22
h3sp4wnwoody->warty is supported10:22
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Harun_abd_As-SamIt looks like I need to use the alternate CD, since with that I can install via text mode10:25
test3rThats what that RECONFIGURE give you10:25
test3rtxt mode10:25
test3rand it will set the most stuff auto for you10:25
test3rwhen it comes to the part about Resolution setting10:25
test3rthere is easy medium and hard10:26
test3rchoose medium10:26
Harun_abd_As-SamI can't reconfigure if I can't install it10:26
test3rthere you select resolution WITH refresh.  oh so its not on there at All.  i see.10:26
test3rthen yes pass an option to the kernel at boot time. i have no idea what one10:26
test3ror better yet, yes, just try the alternate install if you are comfortable with that. if you are partitioning its more difficult with the alt disk obviously.10:30
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test3rtrying to partition for dual boot.  but  if you are just installing this to a blank HDD, yes go with the alt install10:31
Harun_abd_As-Samdownloading the alt install iso now, will give that a shot, thanks for the help10:32
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test3rnp at all. Good Luck! If any distro can get er runnin- I have faith in this one.10:33
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shawn34every disk i burn fails cd check10:37
shawn34i've went through at least 1010:37
shawn34burning at 4x and 8x, alternate cd and normal 38610:37
shawn34md5sums all check out10:37
shawn34using K3B10:37
shawn34any ideas?10:37
TheSheepshawn34: replace your cd recorder?10:38
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shawn34besides that, could it be anything else?10:38
TheSheepshawn34: make sure burnproof is enabled10:38
TheSheepshawn34: and try slower speed10:38
shawn344x is the slowest i can burn10:39
TheSheepshawn34: and try cd's from a different manufacturer10:39
TheSheepshawn34: that's all comes to my mind10:39
shawn343 different types already10:39
shawn34crap10:39
TheSheepshawn34: ah, try to not move the computer during the burning :)10:39
TheSheepshawn34: and burn the image from local disk, not network-mounted or something10:40
Catoptromancyya I burned 3 feistys10:41
Catoptromancynone works10:41
Catoptromancyand downloaded iso twice...10:41
shawn34TheSheep, im using alternate cd, when it runs into a currupt file i select continue then it says "couldn't download the package", but my network configured and was good... how can i get this working to download on bad packages?10:42
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Catoptromancy...10:43
CatoptromancyI attempted an alternate for a download and it would be corrupt10:44
test3rh3sp4wn > OK my orig B&W manual for my NEC MultiSync75 says that 85 Vert is the recommended refresh. but only 70 max horiz10:44
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shawn34how can i do a network install?10:46
grazie!install | shawn3410:46
ubotushawn34: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate10:46
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h3sp4wntest3r: It should have the full specifications10:48
test3rh3sp4wn > that calculator gives me two warnings and very queer looking mode line-  [Modeline "1024x768@75"      85.52  1024 1056 1376 1408    768  782  792  807]    I wonder why there are SO many numbers after that?10:48
h3sp4wnthat is normal10:48
test3rOK so it should replace the entire "mode" for 24bit under the SCREEN section?10:51
h3sp4wnno that goes into section "monitor"10:51
test3ror do i need to add a set of " " around it and make it the first mode the 1024x768 mode? that would mean there are double quotes though10:51
h3sp4wnthen you would change 1024x768_75 to 1024x768@7510:52
test3ryeah, and just forget the jibberish it spit at the end, there?10:52
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test3rok here ill try it with the @75 instead of the _7510:54
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h3sp4wnNo you need10:54
h3sp4wnthat stuff - you can read about how its calculated if you wish10:55
h3sp4wnhttp://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/linux/howto/xfree86v/index.htm10:55
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TheSheepshawn34: you could maybe try the minimal cd :/10:59
h3sp4wnnetboot/mini.iso10:59
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shawn34TheSheep, can't find a minimal cd for xubuntu11:00
test3rOK i thought i had read this somewhere and I was correct -11:00
test3ryou can use this for your mode setting -11:01
test3r"1024x768@70_85"11:01
h3sp4wnthe minimal cd doesn't have any de11:01
shawn34ahh11:01
test3rand manually set the H and V refresh .  at least using the NVIDIA cards11:01
shawn34i will give that a shot11:01
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h3sp4wnYou can specify 1280x1024_60 etc definately with nvidia cards that are not ancient11:01
test3rwell that only does the horizontal refresh11:02
test3rthats why my screen looked squished to me, h3sp4wn11:02
test3ryou have to up the other, too11:02
h3sp4wnFor that you need a modeline11:03
h3sp4wnbut you need a correct one (not done by the generator)11:03
test3rrofl thats what im telling you - the mode line11:04
test3runder Monitor11:04
test3rer , Screen11:04
test3rhere let me pastebin it again11:04
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snapI have all 3 flaavors of Ubuntu installed how do i switch between them?11:06
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slow-motionn811:06
test3rit says some stupid error11:07
test3rok Screen > sub-Display > 24 bits >     [ Modes"1024x768@70_85" "800x600@70_85" "640x480@70_85"    ] 11:08
test3rthats my default screen it's going to goto because at the top default deptch is 2411:09
snapok ill reinstall kubuntu....it gave me an option at that point once11:09
test3rjust ass those bits at the end of each resolution and you're gold.  the first bit after the @  is Hoz refresh the second is Vert refrsh11:09
test3r*add11:09
snapbahhh nuthin11:10
h3sp4wntest3r: Do you ore don't you have the modeline ?11:12
h3sp4wnIf you have a modeline you wouldn't need the _85 bit11:13
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test3rno ive never had one that says "mode line". there is a spot on the very bottom of xorg.conf  that has the DRI mode 666, but I don't think that is what you mean11:31
test3rim assuming that 666 is the perms it gets set to, (so root can do its thing with it?)11:31
test3rand all users must pass thru that or something thats why the xtra bits. its nothing to do with root needing it11:32
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test3ri dunno - in the x.conf you posted, you dont have a line that says "modeline."  I still think you are only modifying the horizontal refresh by only supplying one argument after the resolution.11:35
test3respecially after watching the effects myself on this screen11:36
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h3sp4wnYou are using an ancient version of the nvidia driver11:36
B1zzis it safe to install beryl with the restricted driver for the ati card?11:36
test3ryes the nvidia-legacy driver11:36
h3sp4wnand my screen size is set by the dpi11:37
test3rusing a gFoce2 MX400 card11:37
h3sp4wnI think you should read - http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/linux/howto/xfree86v/index.htm and understand it11:37
test3rbut your post does not include the piece of which you speak of me inserting into my config- which is fixed now.11:38
h3sp4wnthen you will know what you should do - going round in circles here11:38
h3sp4wnI never intended it to11:38
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test3rIm just skeptical of inserting a line that is out of syntax with the rest of the pre-existing config that is there11:39
test3rwhen I can modify the existing one to do what i need it to do11:40
h3sp4wnthat is the syntax that has always existed11:40
test3rthe one the generator makes?  [ Modeline "1024x768@75" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 807 ]  ???11:41
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test3rthen howcomes my lines say only "mode", use only the quote marks around seperate resolutions?11:41
test3rto insert that it would look11:42
test3r""1024x768@75" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 807"11:42
test3rwhich will prob error our because of the doublequotes11:42
x2mjokadaHi, does anyone know how to edit the applications menu so that i can add or remove programs from the menu?11:42
test3rnot only that- are those resolutions after the 85.52 ??????11:44
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test3rthis monitor cannot do those.11:44
h3sp4wnread the timing howto11:44
h3sp4wnit explains what they mean11:44
h3sp4wn /ignore test3r11:45
x2mjokadacan anyone help?11:45
h3sp4wn!anyone11:46
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:46
x2mjokadadoes anyone know how to edit the applications menu so that i can add or remove programs from the menu?11:46
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test3rok i read that11:49
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test3rit basically explain h refresh and v refresh and a few other things im not trying to do like "over push my monitor"11:49
test3rits an old old NEC11:49
test3r...11:49
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scarhow do you enable compositing in xfce?12:02
h3sp4wnsettings manager -> window manager tweaks12:02
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h3sp4wncompositor12:02
Cable86man, you beat me12:03
Cable86only thing i dont like about it is the flashes when the screensaver is going12:03
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ser23hi12:04
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BFTDhrm12:05
BFTDhow do i mount a solaris FS type in linux?12:06
BFTDmount: you must specify the filesystem type12:06
TheSheepBFTD: xfs?12:06
BFTDthats the error I get12:06
BFTDTheSheep I don't know, whatever solaris generally uses12:06
TheSheepBFTD: try mount -t xfs12:06
BFTDmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,12:07
BFTD       missing codepage or other error12:07
BFTD       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try12:07
BFTD       dmesg | tail  or so12:07
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BFTDoops12:07
BFTDsorry12:07
TheSheepso it's not xfs12:07
BFTD!pastebin | BFTD12:07
BFTDyeah gparted is just saying its unknown12:08
h3sp4wnsolaris uses a form of ufs or zfs12:08
h3sp4wnthere is a zfs thing for fuse12:08
h3sp4wnwhat version of Solaris ?12:09
BFTD1012:09
scarh3sp4wn: sorry, i was trying to find the answer to my question when you said that, but I don't have that options12:09
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scardo you have any idea why compositor wouldnt be on my window manager tweaks?12:10
scarit was there when i booted off the CD, but gone when I installed and booted p12:10
scarup12:10
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ser23solaris is using ufs?12:12
BFTDI think it is12:13
BFTDbrb12:16
h3sp4wnSolaris 10 should be zfs12:16
BFTDmight12:17
ser23ufs =bsd ?12:17
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ser23HOWTO Mount UFS partitions12:17
ser23From Gentoo Linux Wiki12:17
ser23Jump to: navigation, search12:17
ser23This article is part of the HOWTO series.12:17
ser23Installation  Kernel & Hardware  Networks  Portage  Software  System  X Server  Gaming  Non-x86  Emulators  Misc12:17
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scarGnome has the option to connect to FTP or SSH servers and have access to them on your desktop, like mounting.  Is there anything similar in XFCE/xubuntu?12:20
Cable86dont think so12:20
Cable86i havent found a way12:20
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scarok.  there are command line tools I think, I was just looking for a simpler way12:21
scarthanks12:21
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kohanHello12:21
ser23hi12:21
kohanI would appreciate some assistance with driver installation12:22
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ser23im also12:22
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kohan-noobie:) I just installed xubuntu and am trying to get my wifi usb to work12:22
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ser23isnt there a howto on google?12:23
kohan-noobiehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd121112:23
kohan-noobieyes. but i dont have the 'make' command12:23
ser23apt-get install make ?12:23
kohan-noobieand i cant get the build-essential w/out internet connection12:23
kebcatch 2212:24
kohan-noobie:(12:24
kohan-noobiemay i put them on a usbdrive?12:24
kebwhat did you install xubuntu from? it should be on the disk12:24
ser23i also installed xubunu but i have make in /sbin12:24
kohan-noobie6.06.1 i386 cd12:25
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whitelampyo for some reason i cannot mount anything- i keep getting errors when trying to mount a cd and a hard disk12:25
whitelamphow do i fix this12:25
kohan-noobiedid u sudo ?12:26
ser23somewhere12:26
whitelampeven as root i get the erros12:26

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