[12:26] are symbolic links on unix/linux the same as shortcuts on window? [12:27] yes and no === hhlp [n=hhlp@55.Red-81-38-89.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:30] ok kma how yes? [12:30] how ni? [12:30] ecki ecki ecki ptang zoo phong! === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:36] I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty. I read in the announcement of the new release that there was a "wizard" of some sort to install nasty codecs. I don't know how to access this program. === odat [n=house@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:39] hello everyone [12:39] anyone able to get apple's movie trailers working with gxine? [12:40] Ok anyone know how to put a driver for a web cam on xubuntu [12:40] I found a site that supposedly had a driver [12:40] but I just could not figure it out. It was all linuxspeak [12:40] and I do windowsspeak [12:41] did you plug your webcam in? [12:41] yes === b52laptop [n=mohammed@41.248.14.22] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"] [12:41] of course I did odat [12:42] what did you test your cam with? [12:42] just becasue I use windows does not mean I am a complete idiot [12:42] I have been programming computers since before you were born probably [12:43] answer the question please === Gaz [n=Gary@user-5443ab02.lns5-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:44] I did [12:44] of course I did odat === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:46] what program did you use to test it [12:46] that was the question [12:46] thats the thing [12:46] I did not try any program I yahooed for +Creative +Webcam +Notebook +linux [12:47] and found a page that clamied to have a driver [12:47] but instead of simple instruction on how to install the driver [12:47] the page had a whole lot of history and this and that [12:47] open synaptic and install camorama [12:47] the driver is probably already installed [12:49] then why am I not able to use that cam on the xubuntu side of my laptop [12:49] what are you talking about bro [12:49] install camorama then use that program to see if your cam is working [12:49] install camorama on the xubuntu side [12:49] through synaptic [12:50] soweto76: If you attempt to play an unsupported media file, it should launch automatically. [12:50] http://feanor.sssup.it/~pj/linux/creative_webcam_notebook.html [12:51] http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html [12:51] those are the two pages I found [12:51] shaba1 are you not listening? [12:52] get on your xubuntu machine [12:52] attached the cam [12:52] open up synaptic and install camorama [12:52] Pumpernickel, when I tried to play a web based video (probably buried in javascript) I did not get an automatic response. [12:52] I heard you [12:52] you mind if I take the time to start up the machine [12:52] ?? [12:52] open up camorama and see if your cam is working === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] chances are since its a creative webcam the driver is already installed on your machine [12:53] soweto76: If you can find out what format it's in, and what media player plugin your browser is using, I can probably tell you what package you'll need. [12:54] Pumpernickel, any reason why gxine doesn't play quicktime movies? i have all the codecs installed [12:54] Pumpernickel, Anyway, I understand that the automatic nature now. I have installed the codes like win32 and a gxine browser plugin and it now works. Thanks. [12:54] soweto76: OK, cool. === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.220.40.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:56] wad up? [12:56] hmmm, Kate doesn't like a 250mb sql file... [12:57] odat: Does it crash, or just not play? [12:57] starting up now odat [12:57] Pumpernickel, just doesn't play [12:58] And you have libxine1-plugins installed? [01:00] Pumpernickel, libxine1-plugins seems to have a lot of gnome depencies eh. [01:01] Pumpernickel, ^depencies^dependencies [01:02] Yeah. The actual codecs are mostly in libxine1-ffmpeg and libxine1, but the other dependencies provide some output plugins as well. [01:02] okeeleedokeelee [01:04] Its downloading now odat [01:05] that did it odat [01:05] thanks [01:07] ok next question [01:07] How can I adjust the amout of time before grub starts windows [01:07] now it is at 25 seconds [01:07] I would like it to be a minute === Shaba1 [n=sandaygo@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.54] has joined #xubuntu === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-39-243.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Morpheus_74 [n=troy@204-251-85-52.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:41] Hello. I just did a fresh install of fiesty, and the text when in tty1,2,3,4.. is extremely huge that I cannot see what I type in be [01:42] any ideas? === aro [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === aro [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === helloworld [n=sl4dd3r@189.141.112.72] has joined #xubuntu [01:59] hello [01:59] how do i install gnome on xubuntu??? [01:59] can't find ubuntu-gnome [02:01] nm its ubuntu desktop === helloworld [n=sl4dd3r@189.141.112.72] has left #xubuntu [] === PiTcReW [n=PiTcReW@c-76-100-32-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-173-139.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Lord_Maynoth_42 [n=chatzill@h12.48.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] If anyone could help me please, I am about to go batty.. My NIC was detected and working fine(still does in xp) in xubuntu feisty, but it quit so I reformatted in ubuntu. It says its an unknown device in hardware information. I downloaded and installed the latest linux driver from realtek RTL8111B but it didn't do anything so I rebooted and it still says unknown device... [03:29] Wireless or ethernet? [03:29] hey [03:29] its ethernet [03:30] :/ [03:30] Hmmm, most ethernet should be supported out of box :-/ [03:30] let's see... [03:30] it was working [03:30] fine [03:30] then it wuit [03:30] quit [03:30] so i reformatted it [03:30] um [03:30] when you install a driver [03:30] i had to compile [03:30] do you have to redetect hardware [03:30] A kernel module? [03:30] yes [03:31] I installed as per the instructions [03:31] Yeah, you probably had to reload the kernel module [03:31] And assuming that worked, you would have internet... [03:31] make clean modules make install depmod -a [03:31] thats what it said to do [03:32] Yeah, probably should have set things up for you [03:32] :c [03:32] Okay, so next question, are you using a network manager? [03:32] what do you mean? [03:32] Like a network manager application? [03:33] whatever the default install has [03:33] Could you see if there's any info when you run "ifconfig" from a command line? [03:34] sure... [03:35] i will have to reboot and check though [03:35] im on my xp hard drive [03:35] Oh, damn [03:35] :/ [03:35] Well, here's the thing, if you don't have internet when you boot up, there's a problem [03:35] I can't figure it [03:35] out [03:35] it works great in xp [03:35] it was working in xubuntu [03:35] and then it just quit [03:35] :c [03:36] its saying its an unknown device [03:36] but it lists its info [03:36] is there anyway to force it to use a driver? [03:36] You didn't remove any kernel packages that were installed did you? [03:36] no [03:36] I did a fresh install even [03:36] of fiesty xubuntu [03:37] and then ubuntu [03:37] Strange... [03:37] is it possible to force it to use a driver [03:37] I'm not certain :-/ === darren1 [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:43] modprobe [03:43] what does that do [03:43] ? === aro [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === darren1 is now known as darrend === Morpheus_74 [n=troy@204-251-85-52.warpdriveonline.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:59] Hello. Can someone help me with my refresh rate? === Will^Draven [n=willdrav@cpe-066-026-043-000.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:29] Morpheus_74 whats the problem? === LM1 [n=chatzill@h12.48.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:32] How do I force a hardware redetect? === solotim [n=frank@io170.opt2.point.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === solotim [n=frank@io170.opt2.point.ne.jp] has left #xubuntu [] [04:37] BFTD: Are you still here? [04:37] Morpheus_74 yes [04:38] :C [04:39] BFTD: I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu 7.04 (fiesty), and my video card is an intel i740. [04:39] ew [04:39] ok [04:39] go on [04:39] BFTD: I edited my xorg file to get my display to 1024 X 768, but I cannot change the refresh rate, when I scroll with the mouse it's choppy, and when I got to tty1,2,3... the font is so large that I cannot see what I'm typing at the bottom of the screen. [04:40] oh [04:40] its the type of card actually [04:40] its old and yuckie [04:41] BFTD: I had it working under Ubuntu 6.06. Did something major change with 7.04? [04:42] BFTD: Anything I can do? I thought Linux was suppose to be good with older hardware? [04:42] !i780 [04:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about i780 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:42] !info i780 [04:42] Package i780 does not exist in feisty [04:42] hrm [04:42] !i810 [04:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:42] oooh [04:43] 740 [04:43] ok === emilami [n=ladyofth@pool-71-96-81-32.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] yall, i have a few questions [04:43] i've been a longtime xfce4 user on gentoo [04:43] shoot [04:43] i got frustrated with gentoo and switched to kubuntu... which is killing me [04:43] how stable is xubuntu? === ElTigreDelSur [n=Owner@69.73.76.212] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] more then kubuntu [04:44] i was led to believe it was basically in development stages [04:44] awesome [04:44] alt+F2 [04:44] terminal === jasin [n=jasin@c-24-19-66-16.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:44] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [04:45] how does it handle wireless? [04:45] is there a command to redetect hardware? [04:45] can someone help me with a sound problem? [04:45] LM1 I'm not sure [04:45] i've had serious problems with kubuntu settings colliding somehow, and my wireless is dropping on me every few hours [04:45] emilami I had to use ndiswrapper for mine [04:46] and then it takes at least an hour to get it working again [04:46] Oh? you have wireless already, ok cool [04:46] yeah [04:46] It does that to me too [04:46] but not under xubuntu [04:46] i just used the little builtin... whatever it is that kde uses [04:46] i set up wlassistant at first === peeps [n=peeps@cpe-70-112-25-110.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:47] 7.04 right? [04:47] yeah [04:47] and that told me that it dropped support for it and was going to uninstall it [04:47] ok [04:47] i don't understand why I don't have firefox 2.0. does anyone know how to make apt-get give me 2.0 [04:48] peeps what version? [04:48] OS that is [04:48] 7.04 [04:48] hrm [04:48] what did it install? [04:48] it started as Dapper, and has been upgraded twice [04:49] when i run firefox it says 1.5.0.4 [04:49] i used to like gentoo, but over the past 2 years it has become unstable... so... yeah [04:49] and gentoo is basically all i know, so i feel like an idiot trying to figure this stuff out [04:50] especially since i'm used to my husband doing all the network configuration for me [04:50] according to apt-get i already have the latest version of firefox installed === jasin [n=jasin@c-24-19-66-16.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:51] i don't get it [04:51] mine is on 2.0.0.3 [04:51] go to help - about [04:51] it will tell you what your version is [04:51] i know, and it says 1.5.0.4 [04:52] i tried a reinstalll but that didn't seem to do anything [04:52] 2.0.0.3 is what i am seeing in the adept manager thing also [04:54] peeps pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list [04:56] i'm going to torrent xubuntu overnight, wipe the kubuntu, and just start fresh [04:56] i'm glad i keep a /home partition ^_^; [04:57] emilami whats wrong with sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [04:57] it would work, but i think my husband is going to switch also [04:58] this way we just have to download it once [04:58] and will have a disc === esc_on_g1ml [n=esc@i59F75A38.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:00] thanks for your help, bftd [05:03] http://pastebin.ca/452188 [05:03] BFTD, there is the file, sorry it took me a bit [05:09] peeps go her -----> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ [05:09] and create a feisty sources.list === minstrel [n=minstrel@S010600119555b8e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] anyone know what gives with xubuntu 7.04 not being able to boot safe graphic mode when hooked to a twinview setup? === esc_on_g2ml [n=esc@i59F75E83.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:15] 1) Where are you specifying safe mode - boot, or login? and 2) What error messages do you get? === ElTigreDelSur [n=Owner@69.73.76.212] has left #xubuntu [] [05:23] BFTD, ok now what [05:23] peeps sudo apt-get update [05:24] ok === itknight [n=knight@ool-43569185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] hi All [05:24] has anyone done a ltsp setup on Xubuntu [05:33] BFTD, didn't seem to help [05:33] peeps whats the output of this command "apt-cache search firefox" [05:34] Pumpernickel: just on the cd boot have a nvidia card with a viewsonic on the vga and a dell on the dvi port the vga went offline and the dell said range too low [05:35] BFTD, http://pastebin.ca/452224 === itknight [n=knight@ool-43569185.dyn.optonline.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:39] peeps I'm not too sure whats wrong [05:39] try sudo apt-get remove firefox then sudo apt-get install firefox [05:43] minstrel: Sounds like it's trying to output a video mode not supported by those monitors. Have you tried specifying it manually? [05:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_driver#VESA_video_mode_numbers === _aussieman [n=bobo@104.Red-80-39-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] Pumpernickel: vga=xxx i can do but what are the commands for doing refresh rate? 80hz ? === test3r [n=tester@71-89-151-154.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:55] !menu edit [05:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about menu edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:00] wait now i see the menu editor! it did get fixed in 610, yes? === __Krush [n=chatzill@85.232.194.179] has joined #xubuntu === VR_ [n=NULL@653235hfc116.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Samt [n=Sam@host217-43-94-167.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] i just tried to burn a cd with xfburn on 6.10, and it did absolutely nothing really fast. i.e. it shows 100% complete immediately without doing anything. === olemacman [n=Miranda@adsl-68-94-68-88.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] cdrecord worked from the command line, though. [06:11] Anyone know where to get an xubuntu md5sum from? I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes but can't find xubuntu md5s there. [06:11] i just found those. [06:11] sec. [06:12] Samt: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS [06:12] thanks [06:13] rici > have u tried growisofs ? [06:13] no [06:13] what would it do that would be useful to me? [06:13] ive been able to use that - its from cmnd line. but have the worst luck with the GUI ones with my hardware [06:13] well it burns disks [06:13] cds or dvd === esc_on_grml [n=esc@i59F77FCA.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:14] odd name for a burner [06:14] but cdrecord worked fine [06:14] u dont even have to do much fancy just hook up ur burner to the tux box (even USB) flip it oon. stik in blank. then run the program with switches [06:15] try man growisofs and you'll see [06:17] ok, i'll keep that in mind. [06:17] i used it to re-construct data from a corrupted disk made by a Mac user that doesn't understand how to test a Paid Job that he handed to me [06:17] kewlio. [06:17] looks handy. [06:17] i don't actually burn cd's that often, just when i'm about to travel [06:18] i was just wondering why xfburn didn't do anything [06:18] i expected at least an error message or something. [06:18] yeah im not sure about the audio CDs with that prog. cant be that hard though [06:18] i was burning an iso, anyway [06:18] i usually like to carry my active work with me, just in case. [06:19] i think i ended up mounting thru loop bak [06:19] the iso? [06:20] yeah [06:20] i don't know why i bother. [06:20] i always have this fantasy that i'll have some spare time and a machine to borrow [06:20] it never actually works out that way [06:20] a/nd then just ref the mount from the cmnd line 'growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files [06:20] but having the cd gives me some sort of sense of security [06:20] write doen that last bit there [06:21] ;) njoy [06:21] thanks [06:21] thats for rockridge jouliete the resulting disk will be compat alot of things [06:22] and of course thats for burning to a blank DVD- but im sure the CD line looks similar [06:25] hey u havin trouble getting a box to run xubuntu on???? lol, come buy one of mine. $30. [06:25] the next Presario i see someone toss out iin the dumpster ima try poketlinux on === Ratshell [n=Linux@74-128-162-171.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:26] or something just ultra ultra compat [06:26] minstrel: I don't know of any way to specify refresh. [06:26] & learn how to do the etc. but something that works better than gentoo HAHAHAHAHAH [06:26] Hey question where would I go to report admin abuse? [06:26] Ratshell: What kind of abuse / where? [06:27] Okay one of the admins for some reason baned me from ubuntu. [06:27] thanks Punpernickel may try switching monitors or something to see if i can resolve it [06:27] So I went to Ubuntu-ops to report them, the same one banned from there [06:27] Ratshell: #ubuntu-ops [06:27] hmmm [06:27] So I went to ubuntu+1 to ask a question about gnump3d and and that admin banned me there to [06:27] I didn't do anything and I want to be unbanned === minstrel [n=minstrel@S010600119555b8e2.cg.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:29] So any idea? === test3r dances a jig [06:30] more. liquid. refreshment. yes [06:32] Looking at the bantracker... seems you made a royal pain of yourself. === Shaba1 [n=sandaygo@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:36] how do I check my sound system/ all of a sudden I am not getting any audio on dvds or screen cast in xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@201.Red-83-63-145.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:38] always first chek the plug. 99% of the time its The Plug. then chek to see the card is in all the way by removing it then putting it back in the PCI / USB however you are connecting your soundcard. [06:38] its a laptop [06:38] so there are no connectors to speakers [06:39] have you added a link to your audio panel at your top bar yet? [06:40] right click the top bar, goto add, find the audio program [06:40] mine says "Volume Control" in the resulting list of things to ass [06:41] uh assasinate [06:41] no thats not the word i meand [06:41] add [06:41] what top bars [06:41] your top Panel [06:41] I right click [06:42] and then clicked add new items [06:42] with the clock? and the Applications menu and such [06:42] now I have a dialog box [06:42] with some choices [06:42] so it is the choice pertaining to your question [06:42] hold on let me look to see if anyof them look like they deal with video [06:42] the audio related choice [06:45] that is what I meant [06:45] I just typed [06:45] audio [06:45] Ok I adjusted every slider I cold fine up [06:46] NOW its playing [06:46] thanks test3r [06:46] hey np man =))) [06:46] nice [06:46] and quick [06:46] i like that [06:46] thanks [06:46] i find screenshot icon to add to be nice [06:47] quick and easy & allows you to set delay, auto-filename (it will just put them in your user dir) [06:48] the mount thing looked dangerous to me because it might unmount my main partition (hda1?) [06:49] of the other choices to add to the bar [06:49] ... i need to figure out how to just add a shortcut to Terminal up there. the same thats under accessories. [06:52] add new item | launcher | fill it all in === christof [n=christor@ANancy-256-1-57-47.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [06:53] oh shnap! thx! now i just gota figure out where its calling... [06:53] .. /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal [06:53] without the .. [06:53] i know where to look for that [06:53] ok [06:53] and you'll probably want to find the nice Terminal icon === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:55] its in the button-select-list [06:55] veryvery ez === xjkx [n=x@201008224224.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [06:56] What graphical cd burner comes By Default on xubuntu ? [06:57] xfburn [07:02] has ne1 found a better x editor than "xjed" yet for learning C? [07:04] Pumpernickel, does it burn audio? [07:07] LoL, this xfburn uses gnome thing === Lorvija_ [n=Lorvija@adsl-215-238-227.kymp.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:08] xubuntu using gtk would not sound right [07:08] No, it doesn't burn audio. [07:08] And Xfce is gtk based, so I'm not sure what your problem with that is. [07:09] oh...i thought it was a fluxbox follower :/ [07:10] If you're looking to burn audio disks, graveman may work for you. [07:10] !info graveman === _aussieman [n=bobo@228.Red-88-11-219.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:11] ...and the bot is lagged. [07:11] graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (feisty), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB [07:11] Pumpernickel, i am actually writing a description and only default packages counts ;) [07:11] ah [07:12] but thanks, the information it uses gtk was awesome :> [07:12] Pumpernickel, then why its less heavy than gnome? i dont get it === christof [n=christor@ANancy-256-1-57-47.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [07:13] i meant xfce [07:13] or xubuntu X ubuntu [07:13] Gtk is just the interface toolkit. There's a lot of other stuff that goes into making a desktop environment. [07:14] uhmm, so kde is not heavy for using QT, i get the point [07:14] gtk is used by C compiler [07:14] Yeah. [07:14] test3r: Uh... what? [07:15] isnt it? in my book it said i neede d a gtk pak or two installed for it to compile [07:15] they might have been already on here, though [07:15] I thought the interface toolkit was heavy already, are they all the same (in this topic) [07:15] test3r: Those would be requirements for a specific application. [07:17] e.g; in order to build an app that requires gtk, you'll need the gtk development headers. [07:18] ooop im sorry its libg++ [07:18] (contains useful C classes for noobs) === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:19] Pumpernickel, would you mention any example that makes a DE hevier? i know kde comes with a lot of packages, but it would just keep space in HD, it wouldn't be in memory since it isnt in execution as long as you don't open the application, It's really interesting to understand, if you don't care explainning [07:21] There's lots of things that contribute. [07:22] The mindow manager, the file browser, various applets, how frequently-used libraries are implemented. [07:23] Thunar, for example, is much lighter than Nautilus or Konqueror. === Catoptromancy [n=Catoptro@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === mkquist [n=michael@h-69-3-182-85.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:25] And, the libraries are totally different between gnome and xfce, uh ho, i think i got it [07:26] But to people like me, who installs firefox wherever i am, uses xterm as file browser, the DE shouldn't make that much difference, but the libraries [07:27] that libg++ is outdated to the point of Do Not Use. good thing i read descriptions. I wonder how I'm supposed to interface with C++ then? hopefully my book is new enough to know C++ has changed [07:28] hmmm preparing mount points seems unusally hard [07:28] test3r: Most of what was in libg++ is in libstdc++. [07:29] which is already there. Sweet === esc_on_g1ml [n=esc@i59F71365.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] don't ya jus Love C =D [07:30] i could kiss C. [07:30] i couldnt, but i could kiss java [07:31] it says "no root file system" [07:31] java is nice- but java cant compile me Doom to run on my tuxbox. === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.45] has joined #xubuntu [07:31] when i try to manually edit partition table [07:31] but java is oop. the c ive seen is very procedural. [07:38] and xubuntu comes with firefox? sorry if i asked already [07:39] Yeah. [07:40] thanks === rici [n=rici@201.230.243.14] has left #xubuntu [] [07:43] The text editor that comes with Xubuntu, "mousepad," is lightweight, & very easy, too. [07:48] guys I did a search for php and mysql in synaptic [07:48] I came up with nothing [07:48] should I just go and dowload xamp [07:48] ?? [07:49] !info php5 === esc_on_grml [n=esc@i59F7190A.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:49] php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB [07:49] Sorry if that sound dumb [07:49] Um, there's no way there is nothing in synaptic for phy or mysqly in synaptic [07:49] php, even [07:49]