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Demon012hi everyone I am a new programmer (new in every sense) and looking for a program I can help develop01:39
Demon012anyone need help developing any educational software?01:40
pygicbx33: :)01:40
Demon012hi cbx3301:41
Demon012have you got anything I can help out with?01:41
pygieveryone needs help :)01:41
Demon012with any particular project?01:41
pygihm, what languages are you familiar with?01:41
Demon012just english really (I know an extremally limited amount of french)01:42
pygiI meant programming :P01:42
Demon012lol01:42
Demon012C++, Java, PHP are my main ones also can use assembly but try to avoid it at all costs as it gives me headaches01:42
Demon012also willing to learn any other languages though01:43
Demon012oh yes also started teaching myself python but haven't got too far with that yet01:44
pygiok, well, you may jump on launchpad and see if there are any bugs in edu software you could fix :)01:44
pygikde-edu, gcompris, and stuff :)01:44
Demon012ok that's cool01:44
Demon012mmm I have already registered on there as Alan Jenkins (my real name; should I re register as Demon012 to avoid confusion ?)01:45
pygino need :)01:45
Demon012kk01:45
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pygimorning bluekuja02:37
bluekujahello pygi!02:37
bluekujahow are you man?02:37
pygitired02:37
bluekuja:D02:38
bluekujasame for me02:38
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fafHi.... I'm planning an edubuntu 7.04 install, and wonder if any squid/proxy setup is installed per default, so that I may block those nasty sites for the kids?02:41
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fafbrb02:42
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fafHi.... I'm planning an edubuntu 7.04 install, and wonder if any squid/proxy setup is installed per default, so that I may block those nasty sites for the kids?02:46
fafanyway... think I found something on the web.... laters02:48
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maccam94RichEd, you around?03:21
RichEdhi maccam94 ... yes ... battling with a machine problem at the moment ...no room for mail folders & it is crashing03:22
RichEdneed to fix urgently03:22
maccam94ah03:22
maccam94k03:22
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gonzaloaf_workhi is it necessary to have two NICs to configure lstp server and my clients could connect to internet?05:59
ograits what the devlopment was focused on, so the two NIC setup works out of the box ...06:00
ograwith one NIC you will need to do manual configuration06:00
ograits not *necessary* to have two NICs to get internet access ... its just more comfortable06:01
gonzaloaf_workogra, what do I have to do?06:01
ogramake sure to not have any other dhcp server in the network and set up the config for the edubuntu dhcpd manually or make sure the dhcp server you already have in your net is set up to make the clients boot06:02
bluekujaogra: hi oliver!06:03
gonzaloaf_workogra, ok I understand.... is there any how to to configure ltsp 5? I'm a user of ltsp4.2 but I know that ltsp5 works in a totally different way06:04
ograyou can still use lts.conf06:05
ogra/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz has the list of all supported parameters06:05
ograand an example lts.conf in the same dir06:05
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gonzaloaf_workogra, are autologin and local devices working in ltsp5?06:07
ograno autologin, no06:07
ogralocal devices work since edgy06:08
ograthere is a way to use sdm instead of ldm to use autologin ... but i havent heard any success stories yet, google might help06:08
gonzaloaf_workogra, ok let me configure my server...06:09
gonzaloaf_workand see what happens06:15
gonzaloaf_workis there a ltsp manager for ltsp 5? like ltspadmin for 4.206:18
ogranope06:18
ograwroking on it though :)06:18
gonzaloaf_workogra, everything manually?06:19
ograhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/06:19
ograeverything automatically06:19
ograyou shouldnt need to do any manual configuration unless you want anythng special06:19
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cbx33ping ogra URGENT06:23
ograpong ?06:23
ogradid the sky fall ?06:23
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ogranot here at least :)06:23
cbx33haha06:23
cbx33wow you are like...actually here?06:24
cbx33got a sec in pm to discuss book chapter06:24
ograno, im in my garden ... :)06:24
cbx33just had editor on the phon06:24
ograsure06:24
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gonzaloaf_workogra, I have an error when I try to run ltsp-manager: ImportError: no module named ltsp06:29
ograits not ready yet06:32
ografor now you need to resort to lts.conf if you urgently want to override the autodetection06:34
ogra(but to be honest i dont see much reason for doing that :) )06:35
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gonzaloaf_workin the case of having 2 NICs how do I tell ltsp5 to use eth1 ?06:44
ograedubuntu does that fr you ...06:45
ograthe installer asks you which NIC is the one for the outside world06:45
gonzaloaf_workogra, I have put the 2nd NIC after the install :$06:47
ograah06:48
ograset it up with a static IP06:48
ogramake sure the IP network data matches it in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf06:48
gonzaloaf_workogra, ooooh I was editing /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf06:50
ograltsap uses its own file ... makes it easier for us to prevent breaking existing setups :)06:51
ogra*ltsp06:51
gonzaloaf_workI'm trying to configure the PXE boot but it doesnt work, this is my /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file http://www.pastebin.ca/454469 , any clue?07:06
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cbx33pingity pongity ogra07:36
cliebow_gonzaloaf_work, your dhcpd.conf seems ok..is this an old intel card??07:38
cliebow_might just verify that /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 exists..07:39
willvdl> feeding frenzy07:40
cbx33hey willvdl07:40
willvdlola compadre07:40
gonzaloaf_workcliebow, my mistake :$ the switch was unplugged07:41
willvdljust grabbing some nosh07:41
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cliebow_gonzaloaf_work, COol..too bad i Never Make those mistakes 8~)07:47
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gonzaloaf_workhow to install x11vnc or in general applications on the client?07:52
cliebow_gonzaloaf_work, there is a wikipage07:53
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cbx33ping ogra08:56
cbx33I'm popping out in a little while08:56
cbx33but I'll be back08:56
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lnswhat's up all10:40
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gladk2it is interesting, how many people are really using LTSP? I would like to do it, but no experience!11:08
lnsgladk2, tons, all over the world!11:09
gladk2Reallly?11:11
lnsLTSP has been around for a while now11:12
lnsI've got 2 installations myself in NorCal11:12
gladk2What is NorCal?11:12
lnssorry, Northern California (USA)11:15
gladk2I see11:15
gladk2Was it difficult?11:15
lnsdepends on what kind of linux/system administration experience you have11:16
lnsedubuntu is very easy to get going11:16
gladk2It seems that Edubuntu gives everything out of box11:16
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cbx33evenin all11:17
gladk2ok11:17
lnsyep11:17
lnsif you're comfortable with installing linux, then you'll be comfortable installing edubuntu11:18
ogracbx33, sorry, took me a while until i could get to it ...11:18
lnsclients are easy to get going if you're familliar with the BIOS and have PXE bootable network cards in them11:18
cbx33ogra, that's cool11:18
cbx33is it looking ok11:18
ogracbx33, unmounting proc if you are in the chroot should just be: umount /proc11:18
cbx33ok11:19
cbx33lemme open up the doc11:19
ogra(you are saying that you leave the chroot with ctrl-d afterwards, so the above should be in)11:19
ograthe command you gave is the one you need to use if you are outside the chroot ...11:19
cbx33is ahhh11:20
cbx33ok11:20
cbx33for umounting that is11:20
cbx33yeh11:20
cbx33i see11:20
gladk2lns, thank you!11:20
ograso make your pick, either put ctrl-d above or change it to umount /proc :)11:20
ograapart from that i didnt see any wrong stuff ...11:20
cbx33dude you are amazing11:21
cbx33can i just ask11:21
lnsnp gladk2 =)11:21
cbx33Installing the LTSP Environment in Ubuntu or on a Desktop Installation11:21
cbx33is that sectyion ok?11:21
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ograwait11:21
cbx33waiting....11:22
cbx33incorrect parameter.... wait requires at least 1 argument....you gave none11:22
ogralooks ok11:23
cbx33awesome11:23
cbx33so it gets the approval from the mighty ogra?11:24
ograyep11:24
ograall fine i think11:24
cbx33dude11:24
cbx33no...#11:24
cbx33you put a conditional on it11:24
cbx33"i think"11:24
cbx33hehe11:24
ograheh, well i'm tired, i might have overseen something11:25
cbx33NFS Server Is Not Responding11:25
cbx33is that bit at the end ok?11:25
ograbut i trust that enough eyes have seen it :)11:25
cbx33the NFSOPTS11:25
cbx33I'm sure I saw in one doc it was called MOPTS11:25
ograNFSOPTS is the right term11:26
cbx33ok11:26
cbx33and I added that section about Intel Boot Agents11:26
cbx33as it took me AGES to find that issue11:26
ograactually nfsopts, but our initramfs is buggy and picks that one ...11:26
cbx33ok....if you say it's good11:27
cbx33then it's good11:27
ograyou might add that the package size limit is cuased by the media ...11:27
ogra*caused11:27
cbx33caused by the media?11:27
cbx33how?11:27
ograon gigabit you can surely go with 32k frames ...11:27
ograa normal value for 100mbit is 8192 ...11:28
cbx33ahh i see11:28
cbx33I'll leave it as is....otherwise it may get too technical11:28
ogra2048 is really a safety value that should even make it half way work on 10M11:28
cbx33ok11:28
cbx33;)11:29
cbx33well....I'm just about to do that last final change about going to the wiki11:29
cbx33and then we're done my friend11:29
cbx33thanks gain11:34
ajmitchhi ogra, cbx3311:34
cbx33hey ajmitch11:36
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Burgworkhey ogra, ajmitch, cbx3311:42
cbx33Hi Burgwork11:43
ajmitchhello Burgwork11:44
BurgworkI learnt a nice lesson today11:44
Burgworkif you mistype your dc when setting up ldap, the usernames will come down but you cannot auth11:44
ajmitchmakes sense11:45
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cbx33heh11:49
cbx33nn all11:49
gonzaloaf_workHI, I can see my clients screens with student-control-panel, but I just see as small thumbnails, is it possible to see them in full screen mode?11:54
gonzaloaf_workwhere are all the educational apps dor edubuntu? why the didnt come installed by default?12:11
maccam94gonzaloaf_work: from what I recall, there is a limited set installed by default. to add more, go to applications -> add/remove, and then browse the Education section12:14
Burgworkgonzaloaf_work: you need the apps cd now12:15
gonzaloaf_workI have a internet connection12:16

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