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[01:39] <Demon012> hi everyone I am a new programmer (new in every sense) and looking for a program I can help develop
[01:40] <Demon012> anyone need help developing any educational software?
[01:40] <pygi> cbx33: :)
[01:41] <Demon012> hi cbx33
[01:41] <Demon012> have you got anything I can help out with?
[01:41] <pygi> everyone needs help :)
[01:41] <Demon012> with any particular project?
[01:41] <pygi> hm, what languages are you familiar with?
[01:42] <Demon012> just english really (I know an extremally limited amount of french)
[01:42] <pygi> I meant programming :P
[01:42] <Demon012> lol
[01:42] <Demon012> C++, Java, PHP are my main ones also can use assembly but try to avoid it at all costs as it gives me headaches
[01:43] <Demon012> also willing to learn any other languages though
[01:44] <Demon012> oh yes also started teaching myself python but haven't got too far with that yet
[01:44] <pygi> ok, well, you may jump on launchpad and see if there are any bugs in edu software you could fix :)
[01:44] <pygi> kde-edu, gcompris, and stuff :)
[01:44] <Demon012> ok that's cool
[01:45] <Demon012> mmm I have already registered on there as Alan Jenkins (my real name; should I re register as Demon012 to avoid confusion ?)
[01:45] <pygi> no need :)
[01:45] <Demon012> kk
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[02:37] <pygi> morning bluekuja
[02:37] <bluekuja> hello pygi!
[02:37] <bluekuja> how are you man?
[02:37] <pygi> tired
[02:38] <bluekuja> :D
[02:38] <bluekuja> same for me
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[02:41] <faf> Hi.... I'm planning an edubuntu 7.04 install, and wonder if any squid/proxy setup is installed per default, so that I may block those nasty sites for the kids?
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[02:42] <faf> brb
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[02:46] <faf> Hi.... I'm planning an edubuntu 7.04 install, and wonder if any squid/proxy setup is installed per default, so that I may block those nasty sites for the kids?
[02:48] <faf> anyway... think I found something on the web.... laters
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[03:21] <maccam94> RichEd, you around?
[03:22] <RichEd> hi maccam94 ... yes ... battling with a machine problem at the moment ...no room for mail folders & it is crashing
[03:22] <RichEd> need to fix urgently
[03:22] <maccam94> ah
[03:22] <maccam94> k
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[05:59] <gonzaloaf_work> hi is it necessary to have two NICs to configure lstp server and my clients could connect to internet?
[06:00] <ogra> its what the devlopment was focused on, so the two NIC setup works out of the box ...
[06:00] <ogra> with one NIC you will need to do manual configuration
[06:01] <ogra> its not *necessary* to have two NICs to get internet access ... its just more comfortable
[06:01] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, what do I have to do?
[06:02] <ogra> make sure to not have any other dhcp server in the network and set up the config for the edubuntu dhcpd manually or make sure the dhcp server you already have in your net is set up to make the clients boot
[06:03] <bluekuja> ogra: hi oliver!
[06:04] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, ok I understand.... is there any how to to configure ltsp 5? I'm a user of ltsp4.2 but I know that ltsp5 works in a totally different way
[06:05] <ogra> you can still use lts.conf
[06:05] <ogra> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz has the list of all supported parameters
[06:05] <ogra> and an example lts.conf in the same dir
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[06:07] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, are autologin and local devices working in ltsp5?
[06:07] <ogra> no autologin, no
[06:08] <ogra> local devices work since edgy
[06:08] <ogra> there is a way to use sdm instead of ldm to use autologin ... but i havent heard any success stories yet, google might help
[06:09] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, ok let me configure my server...
[06:15] <gonzaloaf_work> and see what happens
[06:18] <gonzaloaf_work> is there a ltsp manager for ltsp 5? like ltspadmin for 4.2
[06:18] <ogra> nope
[06:18] <ogra> wroking on it though :)
[06:19] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, everything manually?
[06:19] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/
[06:19] <ogra> everything automatically
[06:19] <ogra> you shouldnt need to do any manual configuration unless you want anythng special
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[06:23] <cbx33> ping ogra URGENT
[06:23] <ogra> pong ?
[06:23] <ogra> did the sky fall ?
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[06:23] <ogra> not here at least :)
[06:23] <cbx33> haha
[06:24] <cbx33> wow you are like...actually here?
[06:24] <cbx33> got a sec in pm to discuss book chapter
[06:24] <ogra> no, im in my garden ... :)
[06:24] <cbx33> just had editor on the phon
[06:24] <ogra> sure
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[06:29] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, I have an error when I try to run ltsp-manager: ImportError: no module named ltsp
[06:32] <ogra> its not ready yet
[06:34] <ogra> for now you need to resort to lts.conf if you urgently want to override the autodetection
[06:35] <ogra> (but to be honest i dont see much reason for doing that :) )
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[06:44] <gonzaloaf_work> in the case of having 2 NICs how do I tell ltsp5 to use eth1 ?
[06:45] <ogra> edubuntu does that fr you ...
[06:45] <ogra> the installer asks you which NIC is the one for the outside world
[06:47] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, I have put the 2nd NIC after the install :$
[06:48] <ogra> ah
[06:48] <ogra> set it up with a static IP
[06:48] <ogra> make sure the IP network data matches it in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[06:50] <gonzaloaf_work> ogra, ooooh I was editing /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[06:51] <ogra> ltsap uses its own file ... makes it easier for us to prevent breaking existing setups :)
[06:51] <ogra> *ltsp
[07:06] <gonzaloaf_work> I'm trying to configure the PXE boot but it doesnt work, this is my /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file http://www.pastebin.ca/454469 , any clue?
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[07:36] <cbx33> pingity pongity ogra
[07:38] <cliebow_> gonzaloaf_work, your dhcpd.conf seems ok..is this an old intel card??
[07:39] <cliebow_> might just verify that /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 exists..
[07:40] <willvdl> > feeding frenzy
[07:40] <cbx33> hey willvdl
[07:40] <willvdl> ola compadre
[07:41] <gonzaloaf_work> cliebow, my mistake :$ the switch was unplugged
[07:41] <willvdl> just grabbing some nosh
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[07:47] <cliebow_> gonzaloaf_work, COol..too bad i Never Make those mistakes 8~)
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[07:52] <gonzaloaf_work> how to install x11vnc or in general applications on the client?
[07:53] <cliebow_> gonzaloaf_work, there is a wikipage
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[08:56] <cbx33> ping ogra
[08:56] <cbx33> I'm popping out in a little while
[08:56] <cbx33> but I'll be back
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[10:40] <lns> what's up all
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[11:08] <gladk2> it is interesting, how many people are really using LTSP? I would like to do it, but no experience!
[11:09] <lns> gladk2, tons, all over the world!
[11:11] <gladk2> Reallly?
[11:12] <lns> LTSP has been around for a while now
[11:12] <lns> I've got 2 installations myself in NorCal
[11:12] <gladk2> What is NorCal?
[11:15] <lns> sorry, Northern California (USA)
[11:15] <gladk2> I see
[11:15] <gladk2> Was it difficult?
[11:16] <lns> depends on what kind of linux/system administration experience you have
[11:16] <lns> edubuntu is very easy to get going
[11:16] <gladk2> It seems that Edubuntu gives everything out of box
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[11:17] <cbx33> evenin all
[11:17] <gladk2> ok
[11:17] <lns> yep
[11:18] <lns> if you're comfortable with installing linux, then you'll be comfortable installing edubuntu
[11:18] <ogra> cbx33, sorry, took me a while until i could get to it ...
[11:18] <lns> clients are easy to get going if you're familliar with the BIOS and have PXE bootable network cards in them
[11:18] <cbx33> ogra, that's cool
[11:18] <cbx33> is it looking ok
[11:18] <ogra> cbx33, unmounting proc if you are in the chroot should just be: umount /proc
[11:19] <cbx33> ok
[11:19] <cbx33> lemme open up the doc
[11:19] <ogra> (you are saying that you leave the chroot with ctrl-d afterwards, so the above should be in)
[11:19] <ogra> the command you gave is the one you need to use if you are outside the chroot ...
[11:20] <cbx33> is ahhh
[11:20] <cbx33> ok
[11:20] <cbx33> for umounting that is
[11:20] <cbx33> yeh
[11:20] <cbx33> i see
[11:20] <gladk2> lns, thank you!
[11:20] <ogra> so make your pick, either put ctrl-d above or change it to umount /proc :)
[11:20] <ogra> apart from that i didnt see any wrong stuff ...
[11:21] <cbx33> dude you are amazing
[11:21] <cbx33> can i just ask
[11:21] <lns> np gladk2 =)
[11:21] <cbx33> Installing the LTSP Environment in Ubuntu or on a Desktop Installation
[11:21] <cbx33> is that sectyion ok?
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[11:21] <ogra> wait
[11:22] <cbx33> waiting....
[11:22] <cbx33> incorrect parameter.... wait requires at least 1 argument....you gave none
[11:23] <ogra> looks ok
[11:23] <cbx33> awesome
[11:24] <cbx33> so it gets the approval from the mighty ogra?
[11:24] <ogra> yep
[11:24] <ogra> all fine i think
[11:24] <cbx33> dude
[11:24] <cbx33> no...#
[11:24] <cbx33> you put a conditional on it
[11:24] <cbx33> "i think"
[11:24] <cbx33> hehe
[11:25] <ogra> heh, well i'm tired, i might have overseen something
[11:25] <cbx33> NFS Server Is Not Responding
[11:25] <cbx33> is that bit at the end ok?
[11:25] <ogra> but i trust that enough eyes have seen it :)
[11:25] <cbx33> the NFSOPTS
[11:25] <cbx33> I'm sure I saw in one doc it was called MOPTS
[11:26] <ogra> NFSOPTS is the right term
[11:26] <cbx33> ok
[11:26] <cbx33> and I added that section about Intel Boot Agents
[11:26] <cbx33> as it took me AGES to find that issue
[11:26] <ogra> actually nfsopts, but our initramfs is buggy and picks that one ...
[11:27] <cbx33> ok....if you say it's good
[11:27] <cbx33> then it's good
[11:27] <ogra> you might add that the package size limit is cuased by the media ...
[11:27] <ogra> *caused
[11:27] <cbx33> caused by the media?
[11:27] <cbx33> how?
[11:27] <ogra> on gigabit you can surely go with 32k frames ...
[11:28] <ogra> a normal value for 100mbit is 8192 ...
[11:28] <cbx33> ahh i see
[11:28] <cbx33> I'll leave it as is....otherwise it may get too technical
[11:28] <ogra> 2048 is really a safety value that should even make it half way work on 10M
[11:28] <cbx33> ok
[11:29] <cbx33> ;)
[11:29] <cbx33> well....I'm just about to do that last final change about going to the wiki
[11:29] <cbx33> and then we're done my friend
[11:34] <cbx33> thanks gain
[11:34] <ajmitch> hi ogra, cbx33
[11:36] <cbx33> hey ajmitch
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[11:42] <Burgwork> hey ogra, ajmitch, cbx33
[11:43] <cbx33> Hi Burgwork
[11:44] <ajmitch> hello Burgwork
[11:44] <Burgwork> I learnt a nice lesson today
[11:44] <Burgwork> if you mistype your dc when setting up ldap, the usernames will come down but you cannot auth
[11:45] <ajmitch> makes sense
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[11:49] <cbx33> heh
[11:49] <cbx33> nn all
[11:54] <gonzaloaf_work> HI, I can see my clients screens with student-control-panel, but I just see as small thumbnails, is it possible to see them in full screen mode?
[12:11] <gonzaloaf_work> where are all the educational apps dor edubuntu? why the didnt come installed by default?
[12:14] <maccam94> gonzaloaf_work: from what I recall, there is a limited set installed by default. to add more, go to applications -> add/remove, and then browse the Education section
[12:15] <Burgwork> gonzaloaf_work: you need the apps cd now
[12:16] <gonzaloaf_work> I have a internet connection