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john-scottwhere should i report bugs with the kubuntu website?12:29
Riddelljohn-scott: here12:34
john-scottah, I believe I just sent you an email detailing the bug and fix i found with the website (if you're Jonathan Riddell at jriddell@ubuntu.com)12:36
Riddellinteresting12:41
RiddellI don't control wiki.k.o but I'll get them to fix it12:42
john-scottif i find other issues with wiki.k.o should i continue to report here/to you or is there a better place?12:46
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andre298hello just wanted to ask the room if its worhtwhile to go with feisty 64, are all the packages up to  date02:05
Riddellandre298: of course, we only released last week02:08
Riddellassuming you mean 7.04 for amd6402:08
andre298yes02:08
andre298im using archright now and the 64bit repos are not all up yet  , i assume its not like thaat for ubuntu02:09
Riddelleverything is build on all supported platforms02:10
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DaSkreechhiya Hobbsee nixternal05:48
nixternalhola DaSkreech05:48
DaSkreechnixternal: Heya. How goes RL?05:49
Hobbseehi DaSkreech05:49
nixternalbusy weekend, busy LUG day today05:49
nixternalhiya Hobbsee05:49
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DaSkreechyou are going to devote some time to KDE4?05:50
Hobbseehi nixternal05:50
nixternalDaSkreech: doing so now05:50
nixternalwe are supposed to be doing a KOffice 2 meeting here soon as well05:50
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DaSkreechHere here?05:50
DaSkreechor where you are here?05:50
nixternalno, over there => in the kde world05:50
nixternalhere, as in time05:51
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nixternalhere soon as in time05:51
nixternalheh05:51
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nixternalargh05:51
DaSkreechMy OO.o gripes faaaaaaar overwhelm them05:51
DaSkreechok stay away from nixternal's tentacles and suckers05:51
nixternalhehe05:52
DaSkreech!info freecol06:04
ubotuPackage freecol does not exist in feisty06:04
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giangy'morning07:31
Hobbseehi giangy07:32
giangyhoy Hobbsee :-)07:32
Hobbsee:)07:32
giangyhaving one LCD only for tailing logs07:39
giangyis nice :)07:39
Hobbseehehe07:40
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_StefanS_Riddell: hey you there ?12:04
_StefanS_Riddell: do you want me to remove that setAccel completely?12:05
Riddell_StefanS_: I guess so12:06
Riddellwouldn't putting & in the button string create the accelarator?12:07
_StefanS_Riddell: hmm won't someone else complain that now the accelerators are missing ? :D12:07
_StefanS_Riddell: yes thats what I hoped when I did it initially12:07
_StefanS_Riddell: although it didn't. Don't rellay know why12:07
_StefanS_I will test that again12:08
_StefanS_compiling it now12:08
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Riddelltesters needed http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu-docs_7.04-6_all.deb12:49
Riddellnon english speaking preferably12:49
Riddellnixternal: the diff for kubuntu-docs feisty includes a bunch of changes not mentioned in the changelog01:01
Riddellnixternal: in debian/control debian/postinst debian/prerm and debian/rules01:02
Riddellnixternal: the rules for SRU are uber strict and every change needs to be accounted for01:02
Riddellnixternal: and it needs to be feisty-proposed in changelog01:03
Riddellnixternal: otherwise, all good01:03
Riddellnixternal: edgy change also has changes to debian/rules that should be explained (and edgy-proposed)01:10
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ryanakcaRiddell: what am I looking for in the docs package?01:19
ryanakcatypos, etc? missing pages?01:19
Riddellryanakca: just that is works in your language01:21
Riddelland any other language you care to test01:21
ryanakcakk01:21
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Tm_Twhat, was all openweek action in #ubuntu-classroom01:23
Tm_Tlooks like it01:26
RiddellTm_T: wiki page could do with making that more clear right enough01:27
Tm_Twell, I tried to understand that wikipage, somehow I didn't even see channel names easily01:28
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mhbhi folks02:21
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dinosaur-rushi02:50
Hobbseehiya02:51
dinosaur-rusI have a small problem:02:51
dinosaur-rusErr http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main tzdata 2007e-0ubuntu0.7.0402:51
dinosaur-rus404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.40 80] 02:51
Hobbseethen talk to the people who do the russian archives?02:51
dinosaur-ruscontents of http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata are the same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata02:57
dinosaur-russo I doubt it's Russian mirror's problems02:57
dinosaur-rustzdata_2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb package is missing in both archives02:58
Hobbsee    tzdata | 2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Sources never appeared to build03:00
Hobbseeeither way, just wait, they'll push that update thru03:00
dinosaur-rusoh, thanks for "testing" :)03:03
crimsunhmm, it's definitely installed here03:23
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crimsunseemingly confirmed by https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/31976403:24
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crimsundinosaur-rus: the deb is also available from https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/319764/tzdata03:25
dinosaur-ruscrimsun: just put it to /var/cache/apt/archives and run "sudo apt-get upgrade"?03:26
crimsunhaven't you already executed the 'update' target?03:27
crimsunif so, just copy it to /var/cache/apt/archives/ , then 'upgrade'03:27
crimsunyou could also just dpkg -i03:28
dinosaur-ruscrimsun: ok, thanks03:28
Hobbseedinosaur-rus: seems to be a mirror problem - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb is hte one from archive.ubuntu.com, and it looks the same to me...03:28
dinosaur-rusHobbsee: oh, it's appeared on Russian mirror, too :)03:30
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Hobbseeah, so it was a mirror problem.  great :)03:30
dinosaur-rusHobbsee: not mirror as that file wasn't present on archive.ubuntu.com, too :)03:32
Hobbseewas when i looked :P03:32
Hobbseethings just take a while to be published, at times03:33
dinosaur-rusHobbsee: but wasn't when I looked for the first time (4:57pm GMT+3) :)03:35
Hobbsee:)03:36
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Hobbsee:P03:36
dinosaur-rus:)03:38
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ScottKdoes anybody here post articles to slashdot?03:45
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Riddelloccationally03:46
ScottKPM?03:47
Hobbseehiya manchicken03:47
HobbseeScottK: careful, Riddell bites03:47
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Hobbsee:P03:48
manchickenHowdy03:48
manchickenTwo weeks.03:48
Hobbseeyep :D03:48
Hobbseeless than03:48
manchickenAnd then I get to be locked up, terrified, for 13 hours of air travel :)03:48
Hobbsee13?  amateur03:49
Hobbseejust be greatful of where you live03:49
crimsunbe glad you're not locked up for 13 hours with /her/03:49
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manchickenNice.03:49
manchickenBetter her than the suits I'll likely be sitting between.03:49
Hobbseehaha03:49
Hobbseedepends03:49
crimsunyeah, at least you can gripe about gtk then03:49
Hobbseecrimsun: poor elky.03:50
manchickenSo much more to gripe about :)03:50
Hobbseecrimsun: all this is making me wish i'd said no :P03:50
crimsunpfah, 'twill be a good time for all03:51
Hobbseesure sure03:51
manchickenMan, I underestimated the rate of spam messages per day I was receiving.03:57
ScottKmanchicken: How many?03:57
manchickenI've received more than 200 messages so far.03:58
manchickenThe pop3 fetch isn't even complete yet.03:58
manchickenThough kubuntu-users is at 83 messages...03:58
manchickenI often consider unsubscribing from that list.03:58
Hobbseekubuntu-users has skyrocketed03:58
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manchickenMost of them are ED spams.03:59
HobbseeED?03:59
manchickenThey must not be very targeted ads.03:59
Hobbseeoh, is kubuntu-users getting spammed?03:59
manchickenNo, my own email.03:59
manchickenSorry, switched back to general spam again.03:59
manchickenMy mind just whips around like that.  Do try to keep up :)04:00
manchickenI should have a little thought bubble program to help folks follow what short-term thought process is racing through my mind at the moment.04:00
Hobbseeahh04:00
Hobbseehehe04:00
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Riddellopen week in #ubuntu-classroom05:05
Riddelldoesn't seem too exciting as yet05:05
Tm_T<305:06
ScottKRiddell: More like sickly sweet.05:18
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imbrandonRiddell, it will get real exciting tomarrow when the K* session happens05:19
imbrandonheheh05:20
Riddellimbrandon: yes, thanks for doing those05:21
Riddell] /win 1105:21
Riddellhmm05:21
imbrandonRiddell, no probs, i love doing them :)05:21
imbrandonand i'm a bit more prepared this time too05:22
nixternalRiddell: I will fix the changelogs and redo here in a few ;)05:23
Tm_Timbrandon <3<305:25
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Riddellnixternal: thanks05:26
Riddellnixternal: bit of a harsh story on fridge there from corey05:26
nixternalhahaha, it was fun though05:26
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manchickenAnthony Mercatante is Tonio, right?05:53
alleeHolmanchicken: yes05:55
manchickenSweet.  I think that means I'm rooming with Tonio.05:55
Tm_Tmanchicken: ?05:57
manchickenUDS05:57
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Riddellthis looks fun, a kubuntu DVD made by d-link for their routers http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/8842806:24
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nixternaloh sweet06:26
nixternalFridge worthy?06:26
Riddellnixternal: quite possibly06:30
Riddellnixternal: I'm downloading the iso now06:30
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nixternalRiddell: do you know John Meinel at Canonical?06:36
Riddellnixternal: not very well06:37
nixternalOK, he is in Chicago06:37
nixternaldidn't know that06:38
Riddellhe does bazaar, and is therefor cool06:38
nixternalrock on06:38
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_StefanS_evening08:24
Riddellhola08:26
nixternalhola? stealin' my mojo! but I guess all is fair since I stole groovy ;)08:27
Tm_Tinteresting stuff in #ubuntu-classroom08:27
nixternalI take that back, I have GPL'd hola08:27
nixternalTm_T: all day, there has been some good talks08:28
nixternalFriday I am doing the Ubuntu Documentation Project talk, and Saturday I am doing the Creating a LoCo talk, now those should be boring, I mean interesting ;)08:28
Tm_Tnixternal: yup, have to read two last parts, I was in bus etc so couldn't follow them actively08:28
Tm_Tcurrent is something I really find educating to me08:29
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_StefanS_Riddell: I dont understand that launchpad thing.. why doesn't that bug you mentioned show in the search results for bugs in feisty ?08:39
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Riddell_StefanS_: searching for bugs isn't great08:43
_StefanS_Riddell: okay, I wondered if that was just me08:44
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cornelinuxHello Riddell?09:52
ryanakcaRiddell: ping, ok, I have it installed, how do I check it in french, exactly? (kubuntu-docs)09:53
Riddellhi cornelinux09:55
Riddellryanakca: you would need to install language-pack-kde-fr-base09:55
Riddelland select french in system settings09:56
ryanakcakk, thanks09:56
cornelinuxRiddell: Stefan on the kubuntu channel told me, I could drop you a question...09:56
cornelinuxRiddell: The theme for the login window does not work for me with kubuntu 7.04... - any idea?09:57
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Riddellcornelinux: for kdm?10:01
Riddellcornelinux: what is the Theme= line in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?10:03
cornelinuxRiddell: yes, kdm: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu10:04
Riddellcornelinux: and what's in that directory?10:05
cornelinuxBut all other settings (LogoPixmap, colorsceme etc.) are set correctly.10:05
cornelinuxsevereln pngs, kubuntu.xml and so on. But the point is, I reconfigured, the background image, the color scheme and so on in the GUI - but it didn't work out.10:06
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cornelinuxhm, when I remove the line Theme= I get my configured settings.10:07
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cornelinuxRiddell: It seems it is not supported to change the Login Theme? (I must admit, I used kcontrol for changing it). Anyway thanks for the hint.10:12
Riddellcornelinux: it should work by editing the file, possibly the kcontrol module has a bug in it10:14
cornelinuxRiddell: seems so. :-)10:14
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_StefanS_ Riddell: I've been looking into those things about the logout dialogue10:16
_StefanS_ Riddell: 1) the hardcoded accelerators have been removed (stupid me), but it doesn't react to & inside the text labels like it should and create the accelerator automatically10:17
_StefanS_Riddell: 2) the gdm, and missing buttons in logout; I have looked into the code inside shutdowndlg.cpp/.h , and it does not seems to be in there the problem lies. What I have observed, is that if  gdm doesnt offer DM().canShutdown, the behavior occurs.10:18
Riddell_StefanS_: maybe you need to parse the label manuall to remove the & and set the letter as accellarator10:18
_StefanS_Riddell: good idea really :) - didn't think of that.10:19
Riddellhow would gdm offer that?10:19
_StefanS_Riddell: well dont know really, but when bool maysd = false, all the buttons dissappear10:19
Riddell_StefanS_: I also had a strange issue when using the accessibility profile for people with poor eyesight, the buttons showed the icons twice (small one left and larger on right) but no text10:20
_StefanS_Riddell: or maybe I'm not understanding the talk between gdm and kde correctly10:20
_StefanS_Riddell: weird10:20
RiddellI suspect the gdm thing has always been the case, but we get more people trying new things at release time so that's why I've noticed people complaining about it10:20
_StefanS_hmm yea, me too10:21
_StefanS_Because the logout buttons I created just react to the ksmserverrc setting, and work the way the classic dialog has always been working10:21
_StefanS_but I have verified that the gdm -> kde problem is not present in edgy10:22
Riddelloh?  so kde could talk to gdm in edgy?10:22
_StefanS_yep10:22
_StefanS_narrows it down a bit ;)10:23
_StefanS_just tested it.10:23
_StefanS_I tried comparing the source from kde 3.5.5 with the newest feisty 3.5.6 and there is nothing about it that makes me think the ksmserver has a problem.10:23
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_StefanS_all the hal-stuff is also pretty much the same in 3.5.5 /edgy10:24
giangyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/102345/comments/510:24
ubotuMalone bug 102345 in kde-guidance "kde guidance does not display cpu frequency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 10:24
giangyRiddell: mh, probably the problem is related to powersaved.10:24
Riddellgiangy: guidance has nothing to do with powersaved10:28
giangyRiddell: well, but if powersaved (instead of powernowd) is installed guidance doesn't work.10:30
Riddellgiangy: guidance just uses hal, so anything to do with dependencies should be done at the hal level10:31
ryanakcaRiddell: so far, french documentation == bad10:31
ryanakcaOnly the links are translated in KHelpCenter... the rest of the document is english10:31
ryanakcas/document is/documents are in10:32
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Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/dlink.png10:42
TheInfinityRiddell: one question ... is it possible to create the kde-latest / amarok-laterst dirs on kubuntu.org deb source? without content, just to avoid the error 404 on the computers i have ;)10:42
Riddellnixternal: this thing is so cool10:42
Riddellryanakca: hmm, that's not good10:42
RiddellTheInfinity: those symlinks should work10:42
ryanakcaRiddell: cool :)... nope. Unless it's because nobody has translated it.10:43
TheInfinitydeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest feisty main -> Konnte http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz nicht holen  404 Not Found10:44
_StefanS_Riddell: hey whats that dlink thing ?10:45
RiddellTheInfinity: well, there's no feisty packages10:54
RiddellTheInfinity: remove the deb line10:54
TheInfinitybut this will get a feisty package when next kde is released, hmm?10:55
RiddellTheInfinity: I don't advertise those -latest links for just this reason10:59
TheInfinityis there a deb where it will be added without comment / uncommenting this line every kde release / ubuntu release?11:00
Riddellnope11:01
TheInfinityhmm ...11:01
Tm_Tif you want "backported" stuff, I think you can do little efforts to get them :)11:01
Tm_Tanyway, good night kids ->11:01
TheInfinityi have a network of 4 pcs and 2 own pcs11:02
TheInfinitythats why i ask ;)11:02
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snikkerphpmyadmin (on feisty) when i click on a link (or button), kick me on login page11:05
TheInfinitysnikker: thats perhaps more an coockie problem?11:06
snikkerTheInfinity: i've clean my brewser cache many times...11:07
snikker*browser*11:07
TheInfinityfirefox?11:07
snikkeryes11:08
TheInfinitystrange ... here it works ...11:09
TheInfinityi use opera but this should not be the reason11:10
snikkerTheInfinity: and sometimes it show this: "root:117" in the user name field11:10
ryanakcanixternal: ping, about your irssi libnotify script...11:10
snikkerno ones?11:21
=== ryanakca bbl, fresh install time
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