[12:29] <john-scott> where should i report bugs with the kubuntu website?
[12:34] <Riddell> john-scott: here
[12:36] <john-scott> ah, I believe I just sent you an email detailing the bug and fix i found with the website (if you're Jonathan Riddell at jriddell@ubuntu.com)
[12:41] <Riddell> interesting
[12:42] <Riddell> I don't control wiki.k.o but I'll get them to fix it
[12:46] <john-scott> if i find other issues with wiki.k.o should i continue to report here/to you or is there a better place?
[02:05] <andre298> hello just wanted to ask the room if its worhtwhile to go with feisty 64, are all the packages up to  date
[02:08] <Riddell> andre298: of course, we only released last week
[02:08] <Riddell> assuming you mean 7.04 for amd64
[02:08] <andre298> yes
[02:09] <andre298> im using archright now and the 64bit repos are not all up yet  , i assume its not like thaat for ubuntu
[02:10] <Riddell> everything is build on all supported platforms
[05:48] <DaSkreech> hiya Hobbsee nixternal
[05:48] <nixternal> hola DaSkreech
[05:49] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Heya. How goes RL?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[05:49] <nixternal> busy weekend, busy LUG day today
[05:49] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[05:50] <DaSkreech> you are going to devote some time to KDE4?
[05:50] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal
[05:50] <nixternal> DaSkreech: doing so now
[05:50] <nixternal> we are supposed to be doing a KOffice 2 meeting here soon as well
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Here here?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> or where you are here?
[05:50] <nixternal> no, over there => in the kde world
[05:51] <nixternal> here, as in time
[05:51] <nixternal> here soon as in time
[05:51] <nixternal> heh
[05:51] <nixternal> argh
[05:51] <DaSkreech> My OO.o gripes faaaaaaar overwhelm them
[05:51] <DaSkreech> ok stay away from nixternal's tentacles and suckers
[05:52] <nixternal> hehe
[06:04] <DaSkreech> !info freecol
[06:04] <ubotu> Package freecol does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <giangy> 'morning
[07:32] <Hobbsee> hi giangy
[07:32] <giangy> hoy Hobbsee :-)
[07:32] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:39] <giangy> having one LCD only for tailing logs
[07:39] <giangy> is nice :)
[07:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:04] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hey you there ?
[12:05] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you want me to remove that setAccel completely?
[12:06] <Riddell> _StefanS_: I guess so
[12:07] <Riddell> wouldn't putting & in the button string create the accelarator?
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hmm won't someone else complain that now the accelerators are missing ? :D
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yes thats what I hoped when I did it initially
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Riddell: although it didn't. Don't rellay know why
[12:08] <_StefanS_> I will test that again
[12:08] <_StefanS_> compiling it now
[12:49] <Riddell> testers needed http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu-docs_7.04-6_all.deb
[12:49] <Riddell> non english speaking preferably
[01:01] <Riddell> nixternal: the diff for kubuntu-docs feisty includes a bunch of changes not mentioned in the changelog
[01:02] <Riddell> nixternal: in debian/control debian/postinst debian/prerm and debian/rules
[01:02] <Riddell> nixternal: the rules for SRU are uber strict and every change needs to be accounted for
[01:03] <Riddell> nixternal: and it needs to be feisty-proposed in changelog
[01:03] <Riddell> nixternal: otherwise, all good
[01:10] <Riddell> nixternal: edgy change also has changes to debian/rules that should be explained (and edgy-proposed)
[01:19] <ryanakca> Riddell: what am I looking for in the docs package?
[01:19] <ryanakca> typos, etc? missing pages?
[01:21] <Riddell> ryanakca: just that is works in your language
[01:21] <Riddell> and any other language you care to test
[01:21] <ryanakca> kk
[01:23] <Tm_T> what, was all openweek action in #ubuntu-classroom
[01:26] <Tm_T> looks like it
[01:27] <Riddell> Tm_T: wiki page could do with making that more clear right enough
[01:28] <Tm_T> well, I tried to understand that wikipage, somehow I didn't even see channel names easily
[02:21] <mhb> hi folks
[02:50] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[02:51] <Hobbsee> hiya
[02:51] <dinosaur-rus> I have a small problem:
[02:51] <dinosaur-rus> Err http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main tzdata 2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04
[02:51] <dinosaur-rus> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.40 80] 
[02:51] <Hobbsee> then talk to the people who do the russian archives?
[02:57] <dinosaur-rus> contents of http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata are the same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata
[02:57] <dinosaur-rus> so I doubt it's Russian mirror's problems
[02:58] <dinosaur-rus> tzdata_2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb package is missing in both archives
[03:00] <Hobbsee>     tzdata | 2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main Sources never appeared to build
[03:00] <Hobbsee> either way, just wait, they'll push that update thru
[03:03] <dinosaur-rus> oh, thanks for "testing" :)
[03:23] <crimsun> hmm, it's definitely installed here
[03:24] <crimsun> seemingly confirmed by https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/319764
[03:25] <crimsun> dinosaur-rus: the deb is also available from https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/319764/tzdata
[03:26] <dinosaur-rus> crimsun: just put it to /var/cache/apt/archives and run "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[03:27] <crimsun> haven't you already executed the 'update' target?
[03:27] <crimsun> if so, just copy it to /var/cache/apt/archives/ , then 'upgrade'
[03:28] <crimsun> you could also just dpkg -i
[03:28] <dinosaur-rus> crimsun: ok, thanks
[03:28] <Hobbsee> dinosaur-rus: seems to be a mirror problem - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb is hte one from archive.ubuntu.com, and it looks the same to me...
[03:30] <dinosaur-rus> Hobbsee: oh, it's appeared on Russian mirror, too :)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> ah, so it was a mirror problem.  great :)
[03:32] <dinosaur-rus> Hobbsee: not mirror as that file wasn't present on archive.ubuntu.com, too :)
[03:32] <Hobbsee> was when i looked :P
[03:33] <Hobbsee> things just take a while to be published, at times
[03:35] <dinosaur-rus> Hobbsee: but wasn't when I looked for the first time (4:57pm GMT+3) :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:38] <dinosaur-rus> :)
[03:45] <ScottK> does anybody here post articles to slashdot?
[03:46] <Riddell> occationally
[03:47] <ScottK> PM?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> hiya manchicken
[03:47] <Hobbsee> ScottK: careful, Riddell bites
[03:48] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:48] <manchicken> Howdy
[03:48] <manchicken> Two weeks.
[03:48] <Hobbsee> yep :D
[03:48] <Hobbsee> less than
[03:48] <manchicken> And then I get to be locked up, terrified, for 13 hours of air travel :)
[03:49] <Hobbsee> 13?  amateur
[03:49] <Hobbsee> just be greatful of where you live
[03:49] <crimsun> be glad you're not locked up for 13 hours with /her/
[03:49] <manchicken> Nice.
[03:49] <manchicken> Better her than the suits I'll likely be sitting between.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:49] <Hobbsee> depends
[03:49] <crimsun> yeah, at least you can gripe about gtk then
[03:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: poor elky.
[03:50] <manchicken> So much more to gripe about :)
[03:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: all this is making me wish i'd said no :P
[03:51] <crimsun> pfah, 'twill be a good time for all
[03:51] <Hobbsee> sure sure
[03:57] <manchicken> Man, I underestimated the rate of spam messages per day I was receiving.
[03:57] <ScottK> manchicken: How many?
[03:58] <manchicken> I've received more than 200 messages so far.
[03:58] <manchicken> The pop3 fetch isn't even complete yet.
[03:58] <manchicken> Though kubuntu-users is at 83 messages...
[03:58] <manchicken> I often consider unsubscribing from that list.
[03:58] <Hobbsee> kubuntu-users has skyrocketed
[03:59] <manchicken> Most of them are ED spams.
[03:59] <Hobbsee> ED?
[03:59] <manchicken> They must not be very targeted ads.
[03:59] <Hobbsee> oh, is kubuntu-users getting spammed?
[03:59] <manchicken> No, my own email.
[03:59] <manchicken> Sorry, switched back to general spam again.
[04:00] <manchicken> My mind just whips around like that.  Do try to keep up :)
[04:00] <manchicken> I should have a little thought bubble program to help folks follow what short-term thought process is racing through my mind at the moment.
[04:00] <Hobbsee> ahh
[04:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:05] <Riddell> open week in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:05] <Riddell> doesn't seem too exciting as yet
[05:06] <Tm_T> <3
[05:18] <ScottK> Riddell: More like sickly sweet.
[05:19] <imbrandon> Riddell, it will get real exciting tomarrow when the K* session happens
[05:20] <imbrandon> heheh
[05:21] <Riddell> imbrandon: yes, thanks for doing those
[05:21] <Riddell> ] /win 11
[05:21] <Riddell> hmm
[05:21] <imbrandon> Riddell, no probs, i love doing them :)
[05:22] <imbrandon> and i'm a bit more prepared this time too
[05:23] <nixternal> Riddell: I will fix the changelogs and redo here in a few ;)
[05:25] <Tm_T> imbrandon <3<3
[05:26] <Riddell> nixternal: thanks
[05:26] <Riddell> nixternal: bit of a harsh story on fridge there from corey
[05:26] <nixternal> hahaha, it was fun though
[05:53] <manchicken> Anthony Mercatante is Tonio, right?
[05:55] <alleeHol> manchicken: yes
[05:55] <manchicken> Sweet.  I think that means I'm rooming with Tonio.
[05:57] <Tm_T> manchicken: ?
[05:57] <manchicken> UDS
[06:24] <Riddell> this looks fun, a kubuntu DVD made by d-link for their routers http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/88428
[06:26] <nixternal> oh sweet
[06:26] <nixternal> Fridge worthy?
[06:30] <Riddell> nixternal: quite possibly
[06:30] <Riddell> nixternal: I'm downloading the iso now
[06:36] <nixternal> Riddell: do you know John Meinel at Canonical?
[06:37] <Riddell> nixternal: not very well
[06:37] <nixternal> OK, he is in Chicago
[06:38] <nixternal> didn't know that
[06:38] <Riddell> he does bazaar, and is therefor cool
[06:38] <nixternal> rock on
[08:24] <_StefanS_> evening
[08:26] <Riddell> hola
[08:27] <nixternal> hola? stealin' my mojo! but I guess all is fair since I stole groovy ;)
[08:27] <Tm_T> interesting stuff in #ubuntu-classroom
[08:27] <nixternal> I take that back, I have GPL'd hola
[08:28] <nixternal> Tm_T: all day, there has been some good talks
[08:28] <nixternal> Friday I am doing the Ubuntu Documentation Project talk, and Saturday I am doing the Creating a LoCo talk, now those should be boring, I mean interesting ;)
[08:28] <Tm_T> nixternal: yup, have to read two last parts, I was in bus etc so couldn't follow them actively
[08:29] <Tm_T> current is something I really find educating to me
[08:39] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I dont understand that launchpad thing.. why doesn't that bug you mentioned show in the search results for bugs in feisty ?
[08:43] <Riddell> _StefanS_: searching for bugs isn't great
[08:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: okay, I wondered if that was just me
[09:52] <cornelinux> Hello Riddell?
[09:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: ping, ok, I have it installed, how do I check it in french, exactly? (kubuntu-docs)
[09:55] <Riddell> hi cornelinux
[09:55] <Riddell> ryanakca: you would need to install language-pack-kde-fr-base
[09:56] <Riddell> and select french in system settings
[09:56] <ryanakca> kk, thanks
[09:56] <cornelinux> Riddell: Stefan on the kubuntu channel told me, I could drop you a question...
[09:57] <cornelinux> Riddell: The theme for the login window does not work for me with kubuntu 7.04... - any idea?
[10:01] <Riddell> cornelinux: for kdm?
[10:03] <Riddell> cornelinux: what is the Theme= line in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?
[10:04] <cornelinux> Riddell: yes, kdm: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu
[10:05] <Riddell> cornelinux: and what's in that directory?
[10:05] <cornelinux> But all other settings (LogoPixmap, colorsceme etc.) are set correctly.
[10:06] <cornelinux> severeln pngs, kubuntu.xml and so on. But the point is, I reconfigured, the background image, the color scheme and so on in the GUI - but it didn't work out.
[10:07] <cornelinux> hm, when I remove the line Theme= I get my configured settings.
[10:12] <cornelinux> Riddell: It seems it is not supported to change the Login Theme? (I must admit, I used kcontrol for changing it). Anyway thanks for the hint.
[10:14] <Riddell> cornelinux: it should work by editing the file, possibly the kcontrol module has a bug in it
[10:14] <cornelinux> Riddell: seems so. :-)
[10:16] <_StefanS_>  Riddell: I've been looking into those things about the logout dialogue
[10:17] <_StefanS_>  Riddell: 1) the hardcoded accelerators have been removed (stupid me), but it doesn't react to & inside the text labels like it should and create the accelerator automatically
[10:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: 2) the gdm, and missing buttons in logout; I have looked into the code inside shutdowndlg.cpp/.h , and it does not seems to be in there the problem lies. What I have observed, is that if  gdm doesnt offer DM().canShutdown, the behavior occurs.
[10:18] <Riddell> _StefanS_: maybe you need to parse the label manuall to remove the & and set the letter as accellarator
[10:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: good idea really :) - didn't think of that.
[10:19] <Riddell> how would gdm offer that?
[10:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: well dont know really, but when bool maysd = false, all the buttons dissappear
[10:20] <Riddell> _StefanS_: I also had a strange issue when using the accessibility profile for people with poor eyesight, the buttons showed the icons twice (small one left and larger on right) but no text
[10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: or maybe I'm not understanding the talk between gdm and kde correctly
[10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: weird
[10:20] <Riddell> I suspect the gdm thing has always been the case, but we get more people trying new things at release time so that's why I've noticed people complaining about it
[10:21] <_StefanS_> hmm yea, me too
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Because the logout buttons I created just react to the ksmserverrc setting, and work the way the classic dialog has always been working
[10:22] <_StefanS_> but I have verified that the gdm -> kde problem is not present in edgy
[10:22] <Riddell> oh?  so kde could talk to gdm in edgy?
[10:22] <_StefanS_> yep
[10:23] <_StefanS_> narrows it down a bit ;)
[10:23] <_StefanS_> just tested it.
[10:23] <_StefanS_> I tried comparing the source from kde 3.5.5 with the newest feisty 3.5.6 and there is nothing about it that makes me think the ksmserver has a problem.
[10:24] <_StefanS_> all the hal-stuff is also pretty much the same in 3.5.5 /edgy
[10:24] <giangy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/102345/comments/5
[10:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 102345 in kde-guidance "kde guidance does not display cpu frequency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[10:24] <giangy> Riddell: mh, probably the problem is related to powersaved.
[10:28] <Riddell> giangy: guidance has nothing to do with powersaved
[10:30] <giangy> Riddell: well, but if powersaved (instead of powernowd) is installed guidance doesn't work.
[10:31] <Riddell> giangy: guidance just uses hal, so anything to do with dependencies should be done at the hal level
[10:31] <ryanakca> Riddell: so far, french documentation == bad
[10:31] <ryanakca> Only the links are translated in KHelpCenter... the rest of the document is english
[10:32] <ryanakca> s/document is/documents are in
[10:42] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/dlink.png
[10:42] <TheInfinity> Riddell: one question ... is it possible to create the kde-latest / amarok-laterst dirs on kubuntu.org deb source? without content, just to avoid the error 404 on the computers i have ;)
[10:42] <Riddell> nixternal: this thing is so cool
[10:42] <Riddell> ryanakca: hmm, that's not good
[10:42] <Riddell> TheInfinity: those symlinks should work
[10:43] <ryanakca> Riddell: cool :)... nope. Unless it's because nobody has translated it.
[10:44] <TheInfinity> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest feisty main -> Konnte http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz nicht holen  404 Not Found
[10:45] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hey whats that dlink thing ?
[10:54] <Riddell> TheInfinity: well, there's no feisty packages
[10:54] <Riddell> TheInfinity: remove the deb line
[10:55] <TheInfinity> but this will get a feisty package when next kde is released, hmm?
[10:59] <Riddell> TheInfinity: I don't advertise those -latest links for just this reason
[11:00] <TheInfinity> is there a deb where it will be added without comment / uncommenting this line every kde release / ubuntu release?
[11:01] <Riddell> nope
[11:01] <TheInfinity> hmm ...
[11:01] <Tm_T> if you want "backported" stuff, I think you can do little efforts to get them :)
[11:01] <Tm_T> anyway, good night kids ->
[11:02] <TheInfinity> i have a network of 4 pcs and 2 own pcs
[11:02] <TheInfinity> thats why i ask ;)
[11:05] <snikker> phpmyadmin (on feisty) when i click on a link (or button), kick me on login page
[11:06] <TheInfinity> snikker: thats perhaps more an coockie problem?
[11:07] <snikker> TheInfinity: i've clean my brewser cache many times...
[11:07] <snikker> *browser*
[11:07] <TheInfinity> firefox?
[11:08] <snikker> yes
[11:09] <TheInfinity> strange ... here it works ...
[11:10] <TheInfinity> i use opera but this should not be the reason
[11:10] <snikker> TheInfinity: and sometimes it show this: "root:117" in the user name field
[11:10] <ryanakca> nixternal: ping, about your irssi libnotify script...
[11:21] <snikker> no ones?