[12:14] <gustavo123> hi
[12:14] <hiturunk> Heh, I'm lucky, I'm thirteen.
[12:14] <hiturunk> Not QUITE as much homework here.
[12:15] <hiturunk> And when I do get it I don't do it.
[12:15] <gustavo123> kawallet ask me for a password, im using kubuntu
[12:15] <hiturunk> IT's asking you to make one.
[12:15] <_4strO> Cable86: i put the command to identify in the command line in server configuration
[12:16] <hiturunk> Gusta, It's askig you to make one mate.
[12:16] <_4strO> Cable86: but think it's possible to do it in the identity config
[12:16] <_4strO> just dont know how it works
[12:16] <_4strO> ^^
[12:16] <hiturunk> =yawn=
[12:16] <stoft> how can I test my input device (microphone) in an easy way?
[12:17] <_4strO> stoft: talk in it :p
[12:17] <hiturunk> Oh! How do I check for NVIDIA OC drivers on Feisty?
[12:17] <_4strO> hiturunk: OC ?
[12:17] <hiturunk> I'm a gamer so I kind of need em.
[12:17] <hiturunk> OverClocked.
[12:17] <Cable86> 4str0:  yeah, i cant figure out the correct "syntax" to get it to auto-identify me in the indentity config
[12:17] <adaptr> there is no such thing
[12:17] <_4strO> ha dont know
[12:17] <hiturunk> Basically it heats itself up alot then turns on it's fan.
[12:17] <jason_> hi all
[12:17] <adaptr> there are, however, various nvidia drivers
[12:17] <stoft> _4strO: thnx, now how do I tell if it's working? (fead the input into the output e.g.)
[12:17] <Last_Hero> there probably won't be any Hiturunk
[12:18] <hiturunk> That sucks a bit.
[12:18] <jason_> any ladies wnat ot chat
[12:18] <Last_Hero> not Linux specific ones
[12:18] <hiturunk> But it's why I multi-OS.
[12:18] <hiturunk> Thanks Last.
[12:18] <Hasrat_USA> hey jason you really think ladies use linux dude?
[12:18] <hiturunk> Now, How about Wine Directories?
[12:18] <Last_Hero> I still have XP for games
[12:18] <hiturunk> Same here.
[12:18] <galathalion> :/
[12:18] <jason_> i have ubuntu
[12:18] <galathalion> i use linux.
[12:18] <jason_> 7.04
[12:19] <hiturunk> I have XP, 98 (for fixing it), 95 (for fixing 98 xD), Linspire, and Redhat, I'm on Kubuntu atm though.
[12:19] <Last_Hero> I think you can download Wine through Adpet
[12:19] <jason_> thats all i have on my comuter
[12:19] <Hasrat_USA> galathalion: and you're a girl?
[12:19] <teri> need a little help, just isntalled fiesty, need to blacklist uhci-hcd from loading, added it to /etc/modules.d/blacklist but it's still getting loaded
[12:19] <_4strO> stoft:you will hear you if the microphone is acrtive
[12:19] <hiturunk> I'll take a look-see, Adept looks just like ClickNRun to me..
[12:19] <galathalion> Hasrat_USA: i dont know if i really want to answer that.
[12:19] <galathalion> :/
[12:19] <Hasrat_USA> i don't know if i care :P
[12:19] <_4strO> teri: look at the /etc/module file
[12:19] <Last_Hero> I don't think you want to confirm that galathalion, you know what the internet is like : /
[12:19] <jason_> anyone from kentucky in here
[12:20] <adaptr> why is that important ?
[12:20] <jason_> chatting is all
[12:20] <adaptr> apart from being the chicken state, of course :)
[12:20] <gustavo123> kwallet dont aske for a new pass
[12:20] <gustavo123> ask
[12:20] <jason_> but what is some good programs i can get for ubuntu
[12:20] <Last_Hero> jason_, you should try a different channel :)
[12:20] <galathalion> flash wont work for me in opera after i ugraded my dist. help pls+
[12:20] <galathalion> ?
[12:20] <gustavo123> where can find a spanish channel?
[12:21] <jason_> it will not let me in no other channel
[12:21] <teri> _4strO: if you meant /etc/modules, theres nothign in there but lp and fuse
[12:21] <hiturunk> I can't find WiNe under Adept, Anyone know where I can get it without having to compile it?
[12:21] <_4strO> !sp | gustavo123
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <hiturunk> I absolutely HATE compiling T_T.
[12:21] <pacman> anyone have knowledge on how to set up winscp on my laptop w/xp to connect it to my Kubuntu box?
[12:21] <Last_Hero> galathalion, try resinstalling Opera
[12:21] <_4strO> teri you can blacklist here
[12:21] <galathalion> Last_Hero: i did.
[12:21] <hiturunk> Nevermind I found it.
[12:21] <ubuntu> hiturunk: why?
[12:22] <Last_Hero> kk, let me check something a sec
[12:22] <Last_Hero> a
[12:22] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: Hmm?
[12:22] <hiturunk> Ohh xD
[12:22] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: I just don't like all the trouble of it.
[12:22] <Hasrat_USA> i'm in love with kwrite
[12:22] <ubuntu> oh i c
[12:22] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: I can go through with source-Compiling it, But I don't like to, I found on Adept though ^_^
[12:22] <ubuntu> :D
[12:22] <hiturunk> it on*
[12:23] <ubuntu> dont use gentoo then
[12:23] <hiturunk> Gentoo?
[12:23] <Last_Hero> galathalion, have you installed the flash plugin through Adept?
[12:23] <_4strO> teri: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:23] <ubuntu> gentoo the mother of all linux
[12:23] <_4strO> teri: eg DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"
[12:23] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: Sorry, I'm a tad noob to Ubuntu and most applications on Linux based OSes
[12:23] <hiturunk> Ahh, Sorry.
[12:24] <aro> galathalion, did you "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[12:24] <aro> ?
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> the mother of them all, in my opinion is GNU Herd!
[12:24] <makuseru> how can i extract a rar that is passworded? i have the password, but when i click extract with ark it says "The extraction operation failed." and never asks me to put in a password
[12:24] <galathalion> Last_Hero: wich one?
[12:24] <Kyral> Hasrat_USA: Its HURD
[12:24] <galathalion> aro: no.
[12:24] <Hasrat_USA> oops!
[12:24] <aro> galathalion, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:24] <Last_Hero> galathalion flashplugin-nonfree
[12:24] <ubuntu> makuseru:  what is the password?
[12:24] <hiturunk> Do give credit though, I'm thirteen, And I single handedly  Partitioned my drive for around 7 OSes and installed Kubuntu.
[12:24] <_4strO> makuseru: dpkg -l | grep unrar ?
[12:24] <stoft> _4strO: it's not active. In Kmix I have tried setting mic,aux, phone, line to "record", with and without capture set to "record". with mic and capture set to "record" I get what I would call artifacts of sound input, but not anything intelligible. any ideas?
[12:24] <Last_Hero> aro's method is quicker, use that one :)
[12:24] <galathalion> Last_Hero: o i had it i nstalled allready :>
[12:25] <stoft> _4strO: sound output works fine.
[12:25] <makuseru> _4strO: ii  unrar                                      3.7.3-1
[12:25] <ubuntu> hiturunk:  my kids brothers are your age and one got expelled for hacking his  schoolsystem
[12:25] <hiturunk> I'll be right back in a second, I'm going to configure wine.
[12:25] <hiturunk> xD
[12:25] <Hasrat_USA> someday i would LOVE to install and use HURD. as a matter of fact i'm just this close to getting an old p III IBM laptop and installing Hurd. I wanna see how it feels like to use something stallman wrote
[12:25] <ubuntu> lol
[12:25] <Last_Hero> galathalion, and it still doesn't work? : /
[12:25] <galathalion> Last_Hero: nope.
[12:25] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: Why didn't he remote hack?
[12:25] <pacman> anyone have knowledge on how to set up winscp on my laptop w/xp to connect it to my Kubuntu box?
[12:25] <galathalion> Last_Hero: it jus crash when u load it.
[12:25] <ubuntu> i dont know exactly
[12:26] <Last_Hero> galathalion, perhaps it is a setting in Opera?
[12:26] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: You can hack with a PSP or a Windows Movbile phone if you reset the OS.
[12:26] <hiturunk> And put on a third party one.
[12:26] <Impaque> what a bummer this is.. update from an alternate Kubuntu CD doesn't work unless you apply some changes to DistUpgradeViewKDE.py manually, like nobody even bothered to check if it's working or not before wrapping it all up and including it on the disc
[12:26] <ubuntu> ;O
[12:26] <Hasrat_USA> stoft i'm having troubles with recording voice or anything in Kubuntu feisty fawn also
[12:26] <Kyral> Hasrat_USA: Good luck...getting the HURD running on a desktop is pain enough
[12:26] <ubuntu> you know to much for a thirteen yo hiturunk
[12:26] <Kyral> (And most of the HURD is based around Mach...)
[12:26] <Impaque> sigh.. later
[12:26] <teri> pacman: install winscp on the doze box, enable ssh on the nix box, put the ip and username into winscp of the linux box and WAMMO
[12:26] <hiturunk> Well, I can't say I paid attention in school, I'm just naturally smart.
[12:26] <hiturunk> ^_^
[12:27] <teri> winscp is slow though, you'll get better file transfer speed using a httpd or ftpd
[12:27] <kant> I come with VICTORY over my previous problem!!!
[12:27] <ubuntu> teri are you cute???????
[12:27] <hiturunk> But hey, We all live multiple lives, There's no need to base amounts of knowledge on how old someone is.
[12:27] <pacman> teri, how do I go abou tthat?
[12:27] <galathalion> Last_Hero: they are fine.
[12:27] <teri> oh yes, most definately cute
[12:27] <hiturunk> ;P
[12:27] <teri> pacman: how do u go about what?
[12:27] <ubuntu> lol
[12:27] <pacman> the httpd or the ftpd?
[12:27] <Last_Hero> galathalion, sorry, I'm out of suggestions, my flash just kinda worked : /
[12:27] <teri> uhhh, install one
[12:27] <galathalion> Last_Hero: crack attack dont start either. :<
[12:28] <ubuntu> Does the opensource community have opensource love aswell?
[12:28] <ubuntu> like in the 60s
[12:28] <teri> start with winscp, when u see how crappy the speeds your getting, then look into setting up real file transfer servers
[12:28] <ubuntu> ;p
[12:28] <galathalion> Last_Hero: it seems like all the programs i dl dont work anymore. :<
[12:28] <_4strO> makuseru: unrar -e yourarchive
[12:28] <hiturunk> Of course I have opensource love!
[12:28] <hiturunk> xD
[12:28] <dwidmann> galathalion: that sounds terrible :(
[12:28] <ubuntu> lol
[12:28] <hiturunk> We all love Opensource.
[12:28] <hiturunk> xD
[12:28] <stoft> galathalion: try entering "opera:plugins" as address in the opera address bar to see if it knows that flash exists
[12:28] <Hasrat_USA> anyone having issues with recording sound with any or the default sound recorder that you find in Multimedia menu in Kubuntu/Ubuntu after upgrading to Feisty Fawn? (although playing mp3s or music works)
[12:28] <Skrot> Does the live cd of kubuntu feisty contain a tool to set time via ntp? rdate isn't included
[12:29] <Last_Hero> Hasrat_USA, let me check, haven't actually tried to use my mic yet
[12:29] <galathalion> stoft: yes it does.
[12:29] <hiturunk> Skrot: It should take the time off of your BIOS chip.
[12:29] <pacman> teri, I'm not getting scp downloaded...dunno what the prob is...stuck on 0%
[12:29] <Hasrat_USA> last hero PLEASE! thanks :-D
[12:29] <ubuntu> Last_Hero: where is your action?
[12:29] <stoft> ubuntu: I'm not about to take money for my genes if that's what you mean ;-)
[12:29] <dwidmann> Skrot: I think you'll find it if you right click the clock applet, adjust date & time ...
[12:29] <hiturunk> Skrot: Comps are built with a clock inside themm, YIt'll set it auto.
[12:29] <Skrot> thanks
[12:30] <hiturunk> Dwid's right to.
[12:30] <hiturunk> xD
[12:30] <galathalion> dwidmann: well.. i havnt tried all the program but atleast two of'em.. hope xmms still work.
[12:30] <ubuntu> lol stoft
[12:30] <Last_Hero> Hasrat_USA, I seem to have no sound recording programs : /
[12:30] <Last_Hero> I could try Opera Voice though
[12:30] <dwidmann> galathalion: any idea why they're not working? do you get any errors when trying to start them in konsole?
[12:30] <hiturunk> =yawn-
[12:30] <Hasrat_USA> opera voice? never heard of that? is that a browser plugin?
[12:31] <kant> no
[12:31] <hiturunk> Well this is a nice, friendly, community.
[12:31] <kant> it comes bundled with opera
[12:31] <ubuntu> sure
[12:31] <Hasrat_USA> okay so Last_Hero is gonna test it
[12:31] <teri> ok, time to see if this worked, most likely not, so i'll be back
[12:31] <kant> that browser has an amazing array of features out of the box (but doesn't have the plugin system that FF has)
[12:31] <galathalion> dwidmann: yes ut the program is running fine.
[12:31] <Last_Hero> Hasrat_USA, it came with my Opera install on XP, can't find it over on Kubuntu though : /
[12:31] <Hasrat_USA> flash movies in opera always crashes like crap
[12:32] <Hasrat_USA> okay Last_Hero
[12:32] <stoft> galathalion: how did you install flash originally, do you remember?
[12:32] <hiturunk> Has: That's true.
[12:32] <galathalion> dwidmann: they stopped working after i upgraded my dist.
[12:32] <hiturunk> Has: They suck in XP to xD
[12:32] <galathalion> stoft: with adept
[12:32] <ubuntu> xp rockkks  for gaming
[12:32] <Hasrat_USA> how to install flash: just open firefox, go to youtube.com and the browser will do anything and everything goddamnit lol it takes 5 seconds
[12:33] <dwidmann> galathalion: mmhmm, which is why I would wonder if they'll throw any errors when started in konsole ... could highlight the problem I'd hope
[12:33] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: It's okay.
[12:33] <abortd_> with the feisty upgrade does anyone know what the compiz-core is?
[12:33] <hiturunk> Ubuntu: You have to remember, XP is just an upgraded version of NT, Essentially crap.
[12:33] <dasnipa> abortd_, compiz are the desktop-effects
[12:33] <galathalion> dwidmann: well, i dont get anything out of the errors
[12:33] <dasnipa> to a lesser extent then beryl
[12:33] <abortd_> so its going to have compiz preinstalled?
[12:33] <dwidmann> hiturunk: not just crap, upgraded crap, now with more smell
[12:34] <hiturunk> dwid: EX act ly.
[12:34] <abortd_> beryl and compiz combined
[12:34] <dasnipa> abortd_, it does have compiz preinstalled... but not enabled yet by default
[12:34] <abortd_> ah
[12:34] <dasnipa> but beryl is not preinstalled just compiz
[12:34] <Last_Hero> Hasrat_USA, sorry, can't find it : /   Gonna go get some of my coursework done now
[12:34] <abortd_> so whats it going to do with my beryl?
[12:34] <Last_Hero> laters
[12:34] <dasnipa> abortd_, nothing...
[12:34] <_4strO> desktop-effect seem to dont work with KDE
[12:34] <abortd_> k
[12:34] <hiturunk> =yawn=
[12:34] <abortd_> didnt know if they would conflict
[12:35] <hiturunk> Anyone tried Vista $!-!!-!-ware yet?
[12:35] <dasnipa> _4strO, right... desktop-effects arent in kde, its a ubuntu gnome feature
[12:35] <Cable86> you can use beryl with KDE
[12:35] <Hasrat_USA> okay  last hero thanks
[12:35] <Hasrat_USA> you can use beryl with anything
[12:35] <Cable86> im sure once the Compiz/Beryl merger is complete and they start releasing versions, it will also work with KDE
[12:35] <Cable86> right now i dont think Compiz works with KDE...correct?
[12:35] <_4strO> Cable86: i do ;)
[12:36] <Hasrat_USA> cable yep and we don't need compiz.
[12:36] <dwidmann> hiturunk: why bother, once you've tried one $!-!!-!-ware you've tried them all
[12:36] <Hasrat_USA> however something extraordinary is gonna take place as soon as compiz and beryl merge
[12:36] <hiturunk> Dwid: No, Thisone is especially crap.
[12:36] <Cable86> well, compiz and beryl are merging, so now itll be the samr thing
[12:36] <Cable86> *samre
[12:36] <Cable86> argh!
[12:36] <Cable86> same!
[12:36] <melkor> If I have the 7.04 iso can I use that to upgrade a 6.10 system?
[12:36] <teri> is /etc/init.d/rc.local the local init script for things i want to setup to execute @ boot?
[12:36] <Cable86> melkor:  as long as its the alternate cd
[12:37] <_4strO> melkor: yes
[12:37] <stoft> galathalion: go to preferences->Advanced->Content-> plug-in options, tell me what you see there concerning Flash
[12:37] <Hasrat_USA> melkor yeah if you burn it onto a CD
[12:37] <Daisuke_Ido> melkor: only the alternate cd, the live cd won't
[12:37] <_4strO> !feisty
[12:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:37] <dwidmann> melkor: only if it's the alternate cd
[12:37] <Cosmo_> is there a way I can force games that are normally run full screen into a window that can be moved betweem my monitors?
[12:37] <_4strO> !feisty | melkor
[12:37] <ubotu> melkor: please see above
[12:37] <Hasrat_USA> oh it has to be the alternate?
[12:37] <Rictoo> what's a good 3D game I can get off Adept that's not that big and that will ease my boredom? :)
[12:37] <Hasrat_USA> Rictoo tux racer
[12:37] <dwidmann> Rictoo: crack-attack :D
[12:37] <Cable86> yes, only the alternate cd can do a dist-upgrade
[12:37] <abortd_> rictoo tron
[12:37] <teri> Rictoo: armagetron
[12:37] <Rictoo> LOL
[12:37] <Hasrat_USA> tron is seriously addictive
[12:37] <Rictoo> 4 different options XDD
[12:37] <Rictoo> what's tron?
[12:37] <abortd_> tron is great
[12:38] <hiturunk> Anyone read The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy books?
[12:38] <abortd_> amagetron
[12:38] <hiturunk> We all love tron!
[12:38] <abortd_> aka tron
[12:38] <stoft> !offtopic
[12:38] <teri> hiturunk: all of em
[12:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:38] <dwidmann> hiturunk: I started, haven't bothered to finish yet
[12:38] <Rictoo> !tron
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Hasrat_USA> tron put many commerical 3d games to shame
[12:38] <abortd_> !armagetron
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about armagetron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Rictoo> ok
[12:38] <hiturunk> !craft
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about craft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Rictoo> lemme check out armagetron
[12:38] <hiturunk> xD
[12:38] <Rictoo> lol
[12:38] <melkor> Cool my parents have dial up, and I wouldn't want to erase everything to upgrade their system.
[12:38] <teri> so, where the local init script so i can force kubuntu to unload uhci-hcd and then load ohci-hcd @ boot?
[12:39] <abortd_> i will play it now :D
[12:39] <abortd_> Rictoo, try sudo apt-get armagetron
[12:39] <abortd_> or look in your package manager
[12:39] <Rictoo> what is armagetron?
[12:39] <abortd_> er
[12:39] <Cable86> a tron-like game
[12:39] <abortd_> hold on
[12:39] <teri> the best 3d tron game on the planet Rictoo
[12:39] <hiturunk> It's a Tron-LightCycle game.
[12:39] <Rictoo> what's tron? =p
[12:39] <teri> tron's a movie from the 80's
[12:39] <ubuntu> i have a quick question. I have a kubuntu install i ahve had for ages, I swapped out my cpu for a newer one and it messed up which is sda and sdb
[12:39] <facugaich> I'm new to KDE... how do I take a snapshot? the keyboard button doesn't seem to do anything
[12:40] <ubuntu> how would i switch sdb to be sda?
[12:40] <abortd_> ahttp://armagetron.sourceforge.net/
[12:40] <ubuntu> it is set on cable select
[12:40] <hiturunk> A very good movie.
[12:40] <ubuntu> and i tried swapping them
[12:40] <teri> ubuntu: either cabling, or i'd think maybe fixing grub and fstab would work too
[12:40] <hiturunk> About a guy trapped inside Virtual Reality if I remember.
[12:41] <ubuntu> teri: never mind, i am a complete moron, i should think before coming in here. i swapped the power cord not the sata cable
[12:41] <ubuntu> dur
[12:41] <ubuntu> *duhr
[12:41] <dwidmann> facugaich: well, go to systemsettings -> regional & locale -> keyboard shortcuts, you can set it to whatever you want there
[12:41] <teri> inside a computer system hiturunk
[12:41] <teri> i got the dvd ;-)
[12:41] <hiturunk> Ahh, I was close though teri ;3.
[12:41] <stoft> facugaich: try ksnapshot (under the K menu -> Graphics if it's installed)
[12:41] <puckman> evening
[12:41] <stoft> galathalion: you still around?
[12:41] <dwidmann> wait, I think it was moved to systemsettings -> keyboard -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:41] <kristjan_> !upgrade
[12:41] <puckman> can anyone tell me what extras are on the kubuntu dvd?
[12:42] <_4strO> !feisty | kristjan_
[12:42] <puckman> cant finf it anywhere on the site
[12:42] <dwidmann> puckman: pretty much all of the Main repo, alternate, live, oem, and text install modes
[12:42] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:42] <ubotu> kristjan_: Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:42] <puckman> dwidmann: thanks for that!
[12:43] <dwidmann> you're welcome
[12:44] <stoft> and input sound works! *phew* :)
[12:45] <Rictoo> WTF
[12:45] <Rictoo> IM CONFUSED
[12:45] <Rictoo> How do you play tron ? =/
[12:45] <obsethryl> jesus...
[12:45] <toydubunut> Hello how do i mount my windows ntfs in kubuntu?
[12:45] <kristjan_> I got this problem that during installation net connection was not avalable and now if I press ,, or  - I get some weird symbols. Is there a way at least to change keyboard layout of virtual terminals into us english
[12:45] <_4strO> !ntfs | toy
[12:45] <hitmanWilly> !ntfs3g
[12:45] <ubotu> toy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:45] <_4strO> !ntfs | toydubunut
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <ubotu> toydubunut: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:45] <toydubunut> thanks
[12:45] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone use Adobe Reader?  Or does everyone use KPDF?  I see some PDFs that don't look right in KPDF
[12:46] <stoft> aaroncampbell: try xpdf maybe? not sure what the diff is
[12:46] <dasnipa> kghostview ftw on pdf
[12:47] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[12:47] <Zoohouse> Is there a bug reporting tool for KDE that Kubuntu uses?
[12:48] <abortd_> what happens if my comp shuts off during upgrade?
[12:48] <hitmanWilly> !bug
[12:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:48] <aaroncampbell> dasnipa: It seems I have kghostview installed, but it's not in my k menu, so I didn't know
[12:48] <facugaich> What's KDE's equivalent of The Gimp?
[12:49] <Eyeless> krita
[12:49] <Eyeless> i think
[12:49] <dasnipa> aaroncampbell, ah, well it is very nice...
[12:49] <Zoohouse> hitmanWilly: there is no tool? like bug buddy?
[12:49] <abortd_> is there a way to erase the dist upgrade then start new?
[12:49] <Hasrat_USA> does sound recorder work for anyone using feisty fawn?
[12:50] <stoft> Hasrat_USA: haven't tried it but input sound now works in skype, which it didn't before. I fiddled with Kmix and then restarted skype.
[12:50] <Hasrat_USA> stoft would you try?
[12:51] <stoft> Hasrat_USA: sure, one sec
[12:51] <Hasrat_USA> thanks in advance
[12:51] <_4strO> abortd_: dont think but you can stop upgrading and resume
[12:51] <abortd_> it was like a immediate stop
[12:51] <abortd_> can i resume that?
[12:52] <_4strO> abortd_: yes
[12:52] <nailz> I've set power saving to 3hrs and have no screensaver set but my screen still fades to black after like 10 mins. any ideas to stop it?
[12:52] <abortd_> wow
[12:52] <kristjan_> upgrade is going very slowly (6 days remaining) - can I cancel it?
[12:52] <abortd_> what a coincidence would you like to see a funny screenshot _4strO ?
[12:52] <toydubunut> _4strO:  the mounting failed i was wondering if i could try it with samba and if so how do mount my windows partition i am using kubuntu in vmware btw
[12:52] <_4strO> yes :p
[12:53] <Hasrat_USA> don't cancel it cause speed is going up and down intermittently. just because it's showing  6 days remaning right now doesn't mean it wouldn't show 6 hours remaining 60 minutes later kristjan_
[12:53] <Hasrat_USA> i'm speaking from my own experience
[12:53] <hitmanWilly> Zoohouse, there is a kde crash handler, but i can't remember the name off the top of my head
[12:53] <toydubunut> i can see my windows user in samba but when i try to play an mp3 of it it fails in amarok error loading while i have libxine-extracodecs installed
[12:53] <pode_> how would i find out what my network card is if I don't know the motherboard
[12:53] <Zoohouse> hitmanWilly: yea I know what you speak of but thats for crashes, not to report bugs... or am I worng?
[12:53] <abortd_> i run gnome btw _4s
[12:54] <abortd_> _4strO,
[12:54] <_4strO> toydubunut: you're on windows and you run a kubuntu in a virtualbox
[12:54] <abortd_> i just took this screen
[12:54] <toydubunut> yeah
[12:54] <hitmanWilly> Zoohouse, yeah, but most crashes are caused by bugs, otherwise i would just use the aforementioned method
[12:54] <_4strO> toydubunut: i dont think i can help (never try this before)
[12:54] <stoft> Hasrat_USA: doesn't work, not yet at least, I can't get the settings right. _but_ sound record is a gnome app, perhaps it's looking for an esd (the default sound daemon in gnome) that isn't running?
[12:54] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[12:54] <toydubunut> ok thanks anyways
[12:55] <Hasrat_USA> uh hmm
[12:55] <kristjan_> I was thinking of trying out other filesystems than ext3 (xfs and jfs in particular) - should I bother or for desktop ext3 is best?
[12:55] <stoft> hendaus: tell us your problem
[12:55] <Zoohouse> hitmanWilly: ok thanks
[12:55] <_4strO> toydubunut: did you configure a share dir in windows ?
[12:55] <aaroncampbell> facugaich: I don't think krita is like gimp.  I think most KDE people use GIMP
[12:55] <abortd_> i wish this would decide to upload
[12:56] <abortd_> _4strO, are you dialup?
[12:56] <hendaus> stoft, thanx, how can i update amule, i am newbie
[12:56] <Hasrat_USA> on my system, stoft, it says "your audio capture settings are invalid. correct them in Multimedia settings" and i have done almsot everything but it didn't work
[12:56] <_4strO> abortd_: ?? dialup
[12:56] <toydubunut> i did share the folder i wanted acces to _4strO but it doesnt show up
[12:56] <abortd_> _4strO, http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1389/screenshot1vg2.png
[12:56] <stoft> Hasrat_USA: same here
[12:56] <newuser> hello
[12:56] <stoft> hendaus: either use the update program (adept) or "sudo apt-get install amule" in a shell/command line
[12:57] <toydubunut> vmware has the option to add shared folders but its failing for kubuntu but its working with a vmware appliance of ubuntu 6.10
[12:57] <newuser> i am getting errors with apt-build command
[12:57] <stoft> hendaus: if it's not already the latest version it will be updated
[12:57] <newuser> could any one help me figure it out
[12:57] <newuser> ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/unrar-nonfree/unrar_3.7.3-1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[12:57] <newuser> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:57] <AbortD> yeah dialup internet
[12:57] <_4strO> AbortD: :p
[12:57] <AbortD> did you see the top right hand side
[12:57] <hendaus> stoft,  i have amule installed, the version 2.1.3 i dont know if there is a new one
[12:58] <stoft> hendaus: that seems to be the latest version
[12:58] <fb33> how do u configure asound.state for line out?
[12:58] <_4strO> AbortD: yes it's an hell update :p
[12:58] <AbortD> so how do i continue the upgrade?
[12:59] <Levi> Question.
[12:59] <hendaus> stoft, oh ic, now about firefox when i download a file and i click open it doesnot work, can u tell me why?
[12:59] <Levi> How'd I  install a theme.rar archive correctly
[12:59] <Levi> as in where would I put it?
[12:59] <_4strO> AbortD: yes i think you can
[12:59] <AbortD> how :P
[12:59] <stoft> hendaus: no Idea, sorry, I use opera
[12:59] <AbortD> !upgrade
[01:00] <_4strO> AbortD: just kill ther updater
[01:00] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:00] <AbortD> ?
[01:00] <hendaus> stoft,  is it better than firefox?
[01:00] <_4strO> AbortD: and then try a : sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:00] <stoft> hendaus: no, but it's not worse either. it's just different.
[01:00] <_4strO> AbortD: and then try a : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:01] <kristjan_> Hasrat_USA: you were right, 19minutes remaining :)
[01:01] <_4strO> Levi: a theme for what ?
[01:01] <Levi> Desktop backround buttons, icons taskbar and such, the whole nine yards as for what your computer appears as to you.
[01:01] <Hasrat_USA> from 6 days to 19 minutes? i believe a lot of people for some weird reasons killed the upgrade and hence you got better download speed now
[01:02] <_4strO> Levi: go ti your system settings
[01:02] <hendaus> stoft, i have movies and i want to burn each one with creating dvd chapter menu
[01:02] <Hasrat_USA> and this is the last time I'm buying rice from a mexican deli YACK! :|
[01:02] <AbortD> 666 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 283 not upgraded.
[01:02] <Levi> If i time out ill brb in a few minutes form there... my wireless connection sucks
[01:03] <Levi> *from
[01:03] <ambion> Hi ppl. I wonder if anyone can help me out with a problem I'm having with my ATI card
[01:04] <_4strO> Levi: better : alt-F2 and kcontrol
[01:04] <ambion> every time I install flgrx it stops X from being able to run
[01:04] <ambion> I've now got a fresh clean install of Kubuntu with nothing modified
[01:04] <_4strO> ambion: why do you want fglrx ?
[01:04] <Levi> isnt this the same thing but different looking?
[01:04] <Levi> as System settings?
[01:05] <AbortD> wth?
[01:05] <AbortD>                   This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[01:05] <ambion> because the free drivers don't seem to cut it
[01:05] <AbortD> ???
[01:05] <ambion> for my X1900XT
[01:05] <_4strO> Levi: prety much the same, in kcontrol you have the theme manager :p
[01:05] <ambion> but there's more
[01:05] <Levi> AH I never noticed that!
[01:05] <Levi> Thanks
[01:05] <Levi> hbut still.
[01:05] <_4strO> :)
[01:06] <ambion> I try to run glxinfo and the bitch restarts X
[01:06] <Levi> where would I plae the unzipped archive, in my home folder somewhere?
[01:06] <pode_> how can I findout what my nic card is so I can get the driver for it?
[01:06] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to get my bcm43** card working in Feisty, I've tried ndiswrapper, and it doesn't seem to work
[01:06] <_4strO> Levi: i think isn't important
[01:07] <_4strO> ambion: but you can start X server ?
[01:07] <Levi> ok
[01:07] <ambion> I'm at a loss to say what's causing this behavior. I've tried K/Ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04
[01:07] <Levi> Oh
[01:07] <Levi> Another question.
[01:07] <ambion> it starts, but with limited functionality
[01:07] <bobbob1016> does anyone know how to get a bcm43** working on Feisty?
[01:07] <Levi> Is feisty Fawn better with a wireless connection than 6.06 is?
[01:08] <facugaich> Anyone can look at this picture and tell me how to turn off the effect of Kmenu? (I'm using beryl) http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6879/instantnea1je3.png
[01:08] <kristjan_> what should I ask from ubotu to get directions how to get desktop effects?
[01:08] <pode_> does anyone know a way to figure out what my nic card is so I can find drivers for it
[01:08] <_4strO> Levi: dont know never had pb with wireless:p
[01:08] <Levi> Helpful -.-
[01:08] <Levi> xD
[01:08] <_4strO> ambion: wich card have you ?
[01:08] <stoft> pode_: try lspci
[01:08] <ambion> Radeon X1900XT
[01:09] <kristjan_> pode_: system settings> appearance> style> efects
[01:09] <kristjan_> stoft: lspci?
[01:09] <pode_> stoft: how would i do it from outside linux
[01:09] <galathalion> stoft: sorry.. my wlan went down. :/ i checked the configs in opera and they are fine.
[01:10] <stoft> Levi: can't remember if I used wireless under 6.06, but no noticeable diff between 6.10 and 7.04, at least no in performance
[01:10] <kristjan_> pode_: oops, I sent it to wrong person :/
[01:10] <stoft> pode_: not sure, sorry
[01:10] <Levi> Damn...
[01:10] <kristjan_> facugaich:  system settings> appearance> style> efects
[01:10] <stoft> kristjan_: man lspci
[01:10] <Cosmo_> is there a way I can force games that are normally run full screen into a window that can be moved betweem my monitors?
[01:11] <Levi> My card doesnt always react to shell commands when I run them\
[01:11] <ambion> I checked bios settings and psu connections
[01:11] <Levi> Unless theres others than dhclient
[01:11] <kristjan_> stoft: it's ok, I confused pode with facugaich
[01:11] <Ashex> anyone know the name of the kde app that displays the files of a partition relative to their size?
[01:11] <stoft> galathalion: I recommend checking the opera forum, I was going through it before and seems there are a few threads concerning problems similar to yours.
[01:11] <ambion> I'm afraid my new card's been busted
[01:12] <bobbob1016> does anyone know how to get a bcm43** working on Feisty?
[01:12] <stoft> kristjan_: ok, np
[01:12] <Ashex> bobbob1016, ndiswrapper
[01:12] <bobbob1016> Ashex: I tried, didn't work
[01:12] <facugaich> kristjan_: thank you very much. I thought I had turned it on with beryl manager though
[01:13] <_4strO> ambion: can you paste your dmesg ?
[01:13] <kristjan_> facugaich: what you are seeing is kde's shadows combined with beryl's
[01:13] <bobbob1016> Ashex: I tried the directions from ubuntuguide.org, and no luck
[01:14] <teri> ok, is there a hotwo somewhere on how to make a new initrd?
[01:14] <aro> _4strO: Before you suggested that I use emerald --replace to fix window decorations. Well, the problem came back up and now "emerald --replace" does nothing, konsole just hangs there
[01:14] <facugaich> kristjan_: Oh, I see. You don't happen to know how to turn off the shadow in beryl also, do you?
[01:15] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library... no
[01:15] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library (with pthreads)... no
[01:15] <_4strO> aro: ps aux | grep emerald
[01:15] <Rictoo> I'm using the 'ati' drivers
[01:15] <Rictoo> and I have a Radeon 9200
[01:15] <Rictoo> What should I do =/
[01:15] <teri> buy an nvidia video card ;-)
[01:15] <Rictoo> ...
[01:16] <kristjan_> facugaich: I'm not using beryl ATM, try "emerald settings" maybe? (I suspect window decoration being responsible for shadows)
[01:16] <Ashex> bobbob1016, one second
[01:16] <_4strO> Rictoo: glxinfo | grep render
[01:16] <Ashex> I used a guide not too long ago that worked for me
[01:16] <Ashex> !broadcom > me
[01:16] <Mad> Hello, I'm new to linux and have a quick question, I have researched online and I just can't seem to find what I am doing wrong.  When I attept to install vmware-player or java it comes up with a blue eula box, it has an ok option, but i can't seem to get past that box?
[01:16] <Rictoo> _4strO:
[01:16] <Rictoo> direct rendering: Yes
[01:16] <Rictoo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[01:16] <Rictoo> AGP 1X?!?!?!?
[01:16] <b0rt> hi
[01:16] <Rictoo> ?aksiajios
[01:16] <Rictoo> !!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????/
[01:17] <Rictoo> THAT'S NOT COOL IRL
[01:17] <Rictoo> What driver should I use? =/
[01:17] <Ashex> bobbob1016, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:17] <b0rt> i cant update with apt-get i get an error
[01:17] <_4strO> Rictoo: can you paste your /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <Ashex> Mad, you installing via terminal?
[01:17] <_4strO> b0rt: which one ?
[01:17] <Ashex> Noooo
[01:17] <Ashex> don't paste the xorg.conf
[01:17] <Ashex> !pastebin
[01:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:18] <Rictoo> _4strO: http://rafb.net/p/VnUeWw34.html
[01:18] <Ashex> heh, :P
[01:18] <Mad> i have tried with terminal, adept, and automatix
[01:18] <Rictoo> Ashex: I know ;)
[01:18] <Rictoo> Has anyone literally pasted xorg.conf in irc? XD
[01:18] <Ashex> Rictoo, just wanted to make sure
[01:18] <galathalion> stoft: ok.. thanks
[01:18] <Ashex> Rictoo, afraid so :(
[01:18] <Rictoo> LOLOLOL
[01:19] <b0rt> dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/la                          nguage-pack-gnome-en_1%3a6.06+20070311_all.deb (--unpack):
[01:19] <b0rt>  files list file for package `libgdbm3' is missing final newline
[01:19] <Ashex> Mad, you should be able to push the space bar to scroll through it
[01:19] <stoft> galathalion: hope you find the solution, for me it just worked out of the box
[01:19] <Ashex> at the end you type yes to agree to the eula
[01:19] <b0rt> sorry
[01:19] <Zoohouse> Help with reporting a bug: I am finding other people with similare bugs to the one I am having, but these reports are for older ver of Ubuntu. Should I report a new bug for my ver of ubuntu or not??
[01:19] <czer323> Can I get an opinion?  I really want to like Kopete.  But, I need a better way of changing tabs.  I'm used to ctrl-tab to switch, but Kopete seems to ignore this shortcut.  It prefers ctrl-, or ctrl-pgup.
[01:19] <facugaich> Next question... When I installed Kubuntu the system tray icons where smaller and there where 2 rows, now they're bigger and there's only 1 row, how do I change it back?
[01:19] <Mad> ok, not that, i can get past that part, it is the one that shows up blue
[01:19] <b0rt> im using both kde and gnome
[01:19] <b0rt> dapper
[01:19] <Ashex> Mad, I'm not aware of one that shows up in blue :/
[01:19] <ambion> _4stro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17143/
[01:19] <Ashex> what exactly is the issue?
[01:19] <_4strO> Rictoo: in the Section "Device" add         Option  "AGPMode"  "8"
[01:19] <stoft> facugaich: left click on the bar, change your preferences.
[01:20] <Rictoo> _4strO: But will that fix that compile error I pasted at the beginning?
[01:20] <Rictoo> About OpenGL?
[01:20] <Mad> hmm... let me try again, and get the exact steps, brb
[01:20] <galathalion> stoft: yeah it worked just fine before the distupgrade.. weird.
[01:20] <dasnipa> b0rt, you cant be using both at the same time though... you are either in one or the other
[01:20] <b0rt> im on kde
[01:20] <kristjan_> facugaich: system tray there you can see konversation icon, kmix icon?
[01:20] <b0rt> but i use gnome sometimes
[01:20] <b0rt> i have both installed i meant
[01:20] <facugaich> kristjan_: yes
[01:21] <b0rt> _4strO: could you help me?
[01:21] <_4strO> b0rt: not sure
[01:21] <Rictoo> _4strO:
[01:21] <Rictoo> Section "Device"
[01:21] <Rictoo> Option  "AGPMode"	"8"
[01:21] <Rictoo> Like that?
[01:21] <_4strO> Rictoo:         Option		"AddARGBGLXVisuals"		"true"
[01:21] <kristjan_> facugaich: they are 22pixels big, I'm not avare of ways to get them smaller
[01:21] <kristjan_> facugaich: I doubt that is possible, though you should try asking that question in #kde
[01:21] <_4strO> Rictoo: "AGPMode" "8"
[01:22] <Rictoo> ok
[01:22] <Rictoo> :S
[01:22] <b0rt> _4strO: could you tell me how to update to edgy?
[01:22] <_4strO> with spaces between
[01:22] <Rictoo> _4strO: http://rafb.net/p/jMyWaT62.html
[01:22] <Rictoo> like that
[01:22] <Rictoo> ?
[01:22] <beanie> Hey guys, i installed kubuntu. at the startup of kde was a dialog where i can configure the look and feel of KDE. How can i start these dialog manually?
[01:22] <aro> _4strO: sorry for the late response, ps aux | grep emerald returns "jsk 7413 0.0 0.0 2880 760 pts/1 S+ 19:21 0:00 grep emerald"
[01:22] <Rictoo> _4strO: forget that
[01:22] <Rictoo> I got it =p
[01:23] <Rictoo> is the 'radeon' driver better than 'ati'?
[01:23] <_4strO> Rictoo:  Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[01:23] <Phalure> if anybody wants to install and enable the most recent nvidia driver in feisty (it doesn't matter if it's already installed), run the command at http://pastebin.ca/453365
[01:23] <facugaich> kristjan_: I don't know they size now, but they were the size of the Konversation/Amarok/etc launchers close to the menu
[01:23] <Rictoo> I know, |
[01:23] <Rictoo> _4strO*
[01:23] <facugaich> kristjan_: now they are bigger
[01:23] <stoft> bedtime, nn ppl
[01:23] <kristjan_> facugaich: they have never been any other size here :/
[01:24] <sylvisj> hmm
[01:24] <_4strO> Rictoo: i forgot the option in the beginning of the line
[01:24] <sylvisj> both audacious and amarok freeze
[01:24] <sylvisj> when trying to play an mp3
[01:24] <Rictoo> oh, ok
[01:24] <Ashex> so, anyone using VMware server?
[01:24] <sylvisj> any ideas on what's up?
[01:24] <_4strO> Rictoo: can you repaste know ?
[01:24] <teri> so, wheres the local init script hiding at so i can try getting this junk working all ready?
[01:25] <Rictoo> _4strO: I got it
[01:25] <Rictoo> and it's ok anyway, 'couse I got a backup of xorg
[01:25] <Rictoo> :)
[01:25] <_4strO> :)
[01:25] <_4strO> ok try to restart X
[01:25] <Rictoo> I will =/
[01:25] <_4strO> (ctrl -alt backspace)
[01:25] <sylvisj> :(
[01:26] <sylvisj> Anyone?
[01:26] <Ashex> !mp3 > sylvisj
[01:27] <ambion> _4stro: heh... tried changing the resolution and X booted. did I miss anything?
[01:27] <teri> !rc.local > teri
[01:27] <Alonea> Ok, my gaim is messed up now in Fiesty. I cannot sign in unless I change the status back and forth. I asked them and they said it was because of Network Manager. When I try to uninstall it, I see on the preview it wants to uninstall "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:27] <_4strO> ambion: nop :/
[01:28] <Phalure> if anybody wants to install and enable the most recent nvidia driver in feisty (it doesn't matter if it's already installed), run the command at http://pastebin.ca/453365
[01:28] <teri> gvrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:28] <abdullah> how to clear the root dust bin and cleat the temp folder?
[01:29] <_4strO> ambion: an then can you paste your xorg.conf ?
[01:29] <ambion> _4str0: I'm figuring it *has* to be the card. Just tried booting windows and it wont boot a graphical UI either
[01:30] <ambion> _4str0: it's completely untouched. I *just* installed Kubuntu... again
[01:30] <teri> !init > me
[01:30] <abdullah> please help
[01:30] <abdullah> how to clear the root dust bin and cleat the temp folder?
[01:30] <_4strO> ambion: ??? strange
[01:30] <jordo23_> When trying to upgrade to Feisty I get the following problem....can someone look at it?  http://pastebin.ca/453387
[01:31] <Alonea> has anyone else had any problems with Gaim on Fiesty?
[01:31] <jordo23_> Alonea: Gaim is a GTK/Gnome app...try in #ubuntu
[01:31] <_4strO> ambion: you cant boot windows too ?
[01:32] <ambion> _4str0: X wont give me any real resolutions or bit depths, running glxinfo is the same as CTRL-ALT-backspace (with a nice microsecond glitch effect)
[01:32] <Rictoo> ok
[01:32] <Rictoo> _4strO: I restarted
[01:32] <Phalure> no, you Alonea
[01:32] <Rictoo> everything looks fine
[01:32] <ambion> _4str0: lspci actually looks ok
[01:32] <Rictoo> how do i check if it's 8x now?
[01:32] <trol0s_> I kinda wished I installed kubuntu instead of ubuntu.. haven't installed anything important yet.. should I reformat or is there some kind of conversion..?
[01:33] <Rictoo> trol0s_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Rictoo> ;)
[01:33] <trol0s_> that's it?
[01:33] <Rictoo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[01:33] <Rictoo> yay!
[01:33] <Rictoo> trol0s_: Yup ;)
[01:33] <jordo23_> When trying to upgrade to Kubuntu feisty the other day, overnight, it failed. Now I cannot upgrade.....the following is what happens in apt when attempting to upgrade....http://pastebin.ca/453387
[01:33] <_4strO> Rictoo: glxinfo | grep render
[01:34] <Rictoo> Thanks alot _4strO for all your help <3
[01:34] <ambion> _4str0: in xorg.conf it says i'm running vesa
[01:34] <_4strO> Rictoo: it's fine now ?
[01:34] <snarfer> Hello, is I'm running Xubuntu right now, actually updgrading to Feisty ATM. How can I replace xfce with KDE? My system can handle KDE now, and XFCE is... well... dull.
[01:35] <Phalure> jordo23_: what does synaptic say? sometimes you get more relevant errors (or suggestions) there
[01:35] <_4strO> ambion: can you paste the file ?
[01:35] <ambion> _4str0: sure
[01:35] <jordo23_> Phalure
[01:36] <jordo23_> Phalure: Synaptic is a Ubuntu prog...
[01:36] <ambion> _4str0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17146/
[01:36] <b0rt> could some1 look at this apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade error? http://rafb.net/p/A0UPoE61.html
[01:36] <wally_> i installed kde desktop but still have gnome. is the command to delete it sudo apt-get gnome-desktop autoremove ?
[01:36] <snarfer> Synaptic is works in all Ubuntu distros
[01:36] <Phalure> jordo23_: i know, but it has almost no deps. try "aptitude install -R synaptic" (-R means something like minimal deps)
[01:36] <Rictoo> What's that fps test again?
[01:36] <Rictoo> What;'s the name of it?
[01:36] <jordo23_> snarfer: I dont have it installed....and cannot upgrade thus not being able to install
[01:37] <_4strO> Rictoo: glxgears
[01:37] <Jack33> hmm some program in wine fuxxored my screen resolution
[01:37] <Jack33> how might i reset it?
[01:38] <kristjan_> damn upgrader froze :/
[01:38] <_4strO> Rictoo: 8347 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1669.277 FPS
[01:38] <kristjan_> what should I do now?
[01:38] <_4strO> kristjan_: retry :p
[01:38] <kristjan_> ah, well I guess I better make clean install instead
[01:38] <snarfer> jordo23_, Just use apt fromt the commandline to upgrade anything
[01:39] <Rictoo> How do I simply get out of x?
[01:39] <Kerrida> Hi guys, I installed Feisty Kubutnu today, and ran into some issues. Unfortunately not able to eb at my box right now due to it being booted into windows so SO can play Sims2. Anyways, from the outset (live CD) I noticed major jumpiness with my mouse. Then after isntalling my onboard ethernet doesn't work.
[01:39] <jordo23_> snarfer: did you even look at my pastebin?  aptitude install -R synaptic
[01:39] <jordo23_> snarfer: that's the problem
[01:39] <snarfer> I'm afraid that I did not look at your paste
[01:40] <_4strO> ambion: sorry i didn' t remember, you want put the fglrx driver ?
[01:40] <wally_> what is the command to delete the gnome desktop after installing kde?
[01:40] <ambion> _4str0: this first came up when I upgraded to feisty. I've since formatted the HD and tried a clean install of edgy... didn't work. the upgrade to feisty also somehow broke my windows install on a separate hd
[01:41] <_4strO> wally_: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to prevent Konqueror from EVER being opened by default as a web browser?
[01:41] <jordo23_> I attempted to upgrade by updating my sources.list to feisty, apt-get update, and then apt-get dist-upgrade...somewhere overnight it failed (the servers seemed really laggy).  When attempting it again, this is what happens....http://pastebin.ca/453387
[01:41] <ambion> _4str0: anything will do, as long as I have reasonable performance
[01:41] <TheCreationist> For example, all Kopete links open in Konq, even though I've changed System Settings->Default Applications.
[01:41] <jordo23_> TheCreationist: You could save the two profiles exactly the same...
[01:42] <_4strO> !ati
[01:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <TheCreationist> jordo23_: What profiles do you mean?
[01:43] <toydubunut> Where can i download kubuntu edgy eft?
[01:43] <ambion> _4str0: those are the instructions I followed
[01:43] <TheCreationist> toydubunut: www.kubuntu.com
[01:43] <Jack33> How do I change my screen resolution
[01:43] <jordo23_> TheCreationist: Konqueror has profiles that are enacted when you use Konq in a certain way....look under the Help menu to save viewing profiles...
[01:43] <ambion> _4str0: if I do that, I get a black screen when X starts
[01:44] <_4strO> ambion: yep
[01:44] <jordo23_> !upgrade
[01:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:44] <TheCreationist> jordo23_: I don't see how that would help all links open in Firefox instead of Konq
[01:44] <ambion> _4str0: my display will give a "no signal" msg
[01:45] <_4strO> ambion: and lspci is giving you the right card ?
[01:45] <jordo23_> TheCreationist: Oh....you weren't clear...defult web browser is set in System settings....
[01:45] <ambion> _4str0: yes
[01:45] <Toyd> i looked on www.kubuntu.com but i cant find a mirror of edgy eft
[01:45] <Toyd> where can i find it?
[01:45] <utnubuk> the new version of kubuntu doesnt boot on my lappy, at least not off of the CD
[01:45] <derekS> i am having problems upgrading. My system is unbootable, i am trying to upgrade via chroot, but it can't stop cupsys so it is pulling out
[01:45] <derekS> anyone have a suggestion on how to force cupsys to install, even though it can't stop it because i am in a chroot??
[01:45] <TheCreationist> jordo23_: I know.  I said I had already changed that to firefox... but Konqueror still opens instead.
[01:45] <utnubuk> can somebody give me a hand?
[01:46] <jordo23_> TheCreationist: Wierd
[01:46] <Toyd> i looked on www.kubuntu.com but i cant find a mirror of edgy eft
[01:46] <Toyd> where can i find it?
[01:46] <TheCreationist> Toyd: Oh, that's right... Edgy isn't supported anymore now that Feisty is out, I believe.
[01:46] <Toyd> :/
[01:47] <Toyd> i need edgy
[01:47] <Alonea> ok, I need to disable NetworkManager, how do I do that?
[01:47] <Toyd> :(
[01:47] <TheCreationist> Toyd: Having problems with Feisty?
[01:47] <Toyd> the linux kernel is too new for vmware
[01:47] <Toyd> giving me heaps of issues
[01:47] <Rictoo> Guys, I switched from the 'ati' to the 'radeon' drivers
[01:47] <TheCreationist> Toyd: Ah.  I prefer VirtualBox myself... and yeah, I'm not liking Feisty either - no sound.  Lots of people with the same problem, and NO ONE has a solution.
[01:47] <Rictoo> with the ati driver I got 1500fps in xglgears
[01:47] <jamaur> hey all, this might be a silly question, but I can't seem to get kontact to show up in the systray--how can I do it?
[01:47] <kaneknows> edgy is still supported for what? 18 months?
[01:47] <Rictoo> and with the radeon I get 8
[01:48] <Rictoo> _4strO
[01:48] <Rictoo> with the ati driver I get 1500fps in glxgears
[01:48] <TheCreationist> Rictoo: First of all xglgears is not meant to be a benchmark of video performance.
[01:48] <Rictoo> and with the radeon I get 8fps
[01:48] <Rictoo> =
[01:48] <Rictoo> =/
[01:48] <TheCreationist> Rictoo: Plus... do you have an ATI or an nVidia card?
[01:48] <utnubuk> how do i find out which version of kubuntu I'm running? i had to find an old cd that wasnt scratched up too bad
[01:48] <_4strO> Rictoo: weird, it's supposed to be the same
[01:48] <Rictoo> ATI
[01:48] <_4strO> utnubuk: lsb_release -a
[01:48] <TheCreationist> Rictoo: Then why on earth would you install the nVidia drivers??
[01:49] <utnubuk> _4strO: ty
[01:49] <Rictoo> I never did :S
[01:49] <_4strO> ambion: think you should go back to the free driver
[01:50] <TheCreationist> Rictoo: Then you're either confused, or you're wording your issue very strangely.  You said you switched to the nvidia drivers... sure seems like you did that on purpose.
[01:50] <Kerrida> Has anyone experienced an issue with their mouse being sluggish, and not very responsive in Feisty? As well as wired ethernet working in the LiveCD but not the installed version?
[01:50] <Rictoo> TheCreationist: I said I switched to the 'radeon' drivers
[01:50] <aro> Is there anyway to create a script that executes before XOrg starts?
[01:50] <Rictoo> I never said the word nVidia
[01:50] <Rictoo> lol
[01:50] <TheCreationist> doh!~
[01:50] <TheCreationist> wow
[01:50] <TheCreationist> lol
[01:50] <_4strO> ambion: remove fglrx driver and put the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver
[01:51] <Mad> ashex, if you are still avaible i might have some console information that would help you, help me
[01:51] <Alonea> ok, I need to disable NetworkManager in Kubuntu, how do I do that?
[01:51] <Rictoo> My video card works better in 1x than in 8x
[01:51] <Rictoo> ..................
[01:51] <_4strO> Rictoo: i had try the both and nothing change for me
[01:51] <Ashex> Mad, toss it in pastebin
[01:51] <utnubuk> can i apt-get to install the latest version?? what should I type??
[01:51] <Mad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17149/
[01:51] <Rictoo> _4strO: I got it working now, I guess it was only while I was booting or something
[01:51] <dr0fnax_away> Toyd: you can get Edgy here: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Edgy-Eft-Download-15387.html
[01:51] <TheCreationist> utnubuk: You shouldn't use the console to upgrade.  Use the update-manager
[01:52] <_4strO> Rictoo: i think there is no difference between ati and radeon
[01:52] <facugaich> last question, how can I prevent kubuntu from checking my windows partition with fsck everytime I boot?
[01:52] <Ashex> hmm
[01:52] <Ashex> Mad, looks like you need to clean up your cache
[01:52] <ambion> _4str0: heh. tried
[01:52] <Ashex> I want you to run a couple commands for me
[01:52] <Rictoo> _4strO: I still get this:
[01:52] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library... no
[01:52] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library (with pthreads)... no
[01:52] <Toyd> dr0fnax_away,  thanks
[01:52] <ambion> _4str0: it's installed atm
[01:52] <Ashex> Mad, sudo apt-get clean
[01:52] <Mad> ok
[01:52] <Mad> one sec
[01:53] <Ashex> Mad, sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player
[01:53] <ambion> _4str0: thing is, it won't work
[01:53] <Ashex> and then sudo apt-get -f install
[01:53] <Ashex> er, sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware-player
[01:53] <utnubuk> TheCreationist: sorry to be so needy but could you explain how to do it real quick or give me a link to a howto?
[01:53] <utnubuk> im not familiar with update managar
[01:53] <utnubuk> manager
[01:53] <Mad> ok
[01:53] <redfive> how do you get the back bouse button to work? i have tried everythin on google
[01:54] <TheCreationist> utnubuk: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:54] <_4strO> ambion: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[01:54] <utnubuk> ty
[01:54] <Ashex> Mad, basically, I want you to clean up your local cache and make sure you don't have any leftover messes from previous bad installs
[01:54] <Alonea> Ok, how do I uninstall something that wants to uninstall something else I DONT want to uninstall in adept?
[01:54] <derekS> anyone know how to upgrade via chroot when the system can't stop cupsys (because i am in a chroot)
[01:54] <Mad> ok, i got that done, it looks clean
[01:54] <Ashex> okay
[01:55] <Mad> which java, or vmware should i try to install, we'll limit it to one package so you can help me
[01:55] <_4strO> Alonea: you should not
[01:55] <Ashex> Mad, what do you get when you do sudo apt-get -f install
[01:55] <Mad> 0, 0, 0 etc...
[01:55] <Alonea> _4strO: but network-manager is screwing up my gaim...I need to either get rid of it or disable it
[01:55] <Ashex> okay, looks clean
[01:56] <Ashex> Mad, you running feisty?
[01:56] <Mad> yes
[01:56] <Ashex> okay
[01:56] <Rictoo> guys, when compiling TuxRacer, I get this
[01:56] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library... no
[01:56] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library (with pthreads)... no
[01:56] <Ashex> just do sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[01:56] <Rictoo> But I DO have OpenGL =/
[01:56] <Ashex> Rictoo, what card/driver are you using?
[01:56] <_4strO> Alonea: how can network-manager screwing your gaim connection
[01:57] <Ashex> make sure you have the proper video driver loaded
[01:57] <czer323> Kopete won't listen to the global shortcuts for tab switching.  I change them to ctrl-tab, but it continues to use ctrl-pgUp and ctrl-.
[01:57] <Rictoo> Ashex: Radeon 9200. Using the 'radeon' driver
[01:57] <Mad> ok, it is downloading now, be one sec
[01:57] <Rictoo> I checked with xglinfo, I do have OpenGL
[01:57] <TheCreationist> czer323: It doesn't listen to the global settings for web browser either.
[01:57] <Alonea> _4strO: i have no idea. its a thing the #pigdin people said was causing it. it says in gaim "waiting for network connection" when I am connected to the internet already.
[01:57] <Ashex> Rictoo, fglrxinfo should tell you if you have opengl
[01:57] <Ashex> ah
[01:57] <Ashex> Rictoo, interesting...
[01:57] <czer323> TheCreationist: I changed it in Konqueror to fix that, but Kopete doesn't have the option.
[01:58] <czer323> I really want to like Kopete.
[01:58] <Ashex> Rictoo, you may need to add a flag when compiling
[01:58] <Rictoo> should i just comment that part out in the configure script? :0
[01:58] <TheCreationist> czer323: I can't get it to open links in anything BUT Konqueror.
[01:58] <czer323> And without proper tab switching, I wont' like  it.
[01:58] <Ashex> Rictoo, that would be bad :p
[01:58] <Rictoo> lolol
[01:58] <Mad> ok, it errored out again, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17150/
[01:59] <czer323> TheCreationist: That's somethign that's setup in SystemSettings> Default Applications> Web Browser.  I put firefox in there.
[01:59] <MinceR> re
[01:59] <TheCreationist> czer323: Yeah, I did that too... even logged out then back in... it StILL opens everything in Konq
[01:59] <_4strO> Rictoo: dpkg -l | grep libgl1
[01:59] <MinceR> turns out x crashed because i used evdev for mouse events (so that the tilt wheel works) and the numbering of the evdevs changed.
[01:59] <czer323> I have an idea.  *Need to log out.*
[01:59] <Ashex> Mad, looks like something is locking the dpkg files
[02:00] <Mad> i see that, but i can't find out what it is, and even if i reboot it still seems to be there
[02:00] <Rictoo> Ashex: Where are the OpenGL libs put
[02:00] <Rictoo> ?
[02:00] <Ashex> Mad, do you have adept_manager running or any other package manager?
[02:01] <Mad> none running at the moment, no, and i checked the process table for them as well
[02:01] <_4strO> Rictoo: dpkg -l | grep libgl1 did you have something ?
[02:01] <Ashex> Rictoo, i think you're missing a package dependencie
[02:01] <Ashex> check tuxracers site for required libs and install them through apt
[02:01] <Alonea> _4strO: and more than one person in #pidgin is POSITIVE networkmanager is the culprit and either needs to be disabled or removed..
[02:01] <Ashex> Mad, did you add any repositories?
[02:01] <Rictoo> _4strO: Yes, i got stuff
[02:01] <Rictoo> should I pastebin it?
[02:02] <Mad> none manually, but i think automatix adds some?
[02:02] <redfive> i caint believe thers no way to get the "back" button to work on this mouse
[02:02] <_4strO> Rictoo: no
[02:02] <Rictoo> ok
[02:02] <Rictoo> so what should I do? :((
[02:02] <Ashex> Mad, Automatix has a history of breaking stuff
[02:02] <ambion> _4strO:ok. I gotta go get some kip. Thanks for the help... gonna contact ATI tomorrow if this doesn't clear up.
[02:03] <Rictoo> A configure line option:
[02:03] <Rictoo> --with-gl-libs=DIR: Specify OpenGL library location
[02:03] <Mad> so i hear, suggestion?
[02:03] <Rictoo> How do I find where the OpenGL libs are?
[02:03] <pode_> hey i have a server and i want share folders from it with windows but I also want to share through a network cause I move around.  am i going to need tosetup a vpn?
[02:03] <Ashex> locate :p
[02:03] <Ashex> Mad, I'm thinking
[02:03] <Rictoo> Ashex: I did
[02:03] <Rictoo> found nothing relevant (I think)
[02:03] <Ashex> Mad, you could download the vmware-player tar.gz from their website and install that way
[02:03] <Ashex> that's what I used to do
[02:03] <Ashex> hmm
[02:03] <_4strO> Mad: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/*
[02:04] <Mad> ok, i'll give that a shot
[02:04] <Ashex> Mad, try _4strO suggestion
[02:04] <Mad> ok
[02:04] <Mad> didn't look like it did anything
[02:04] <Ashex> _4strO, I had him use apt-cache clean, so that should have cleaned it up
[02:04] <_4strO> and then retry to install
[02:04] <_4strO> Ashex: right :)
[02:05] <Mad> Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[02:05] <_4strO> Mad :close adept
[02:06] <redfive> why is it that everytime i open a window, it opens in a different place
[02:06] <pode_> if i want to share a folder on a linux box with a windows box I would need SAMBA right?
[02:06] <Mad> it's not running, and doesn't show up in ksysguard
[02:06] <redfive> like the run box opens in a different place every time
[02:06] <_4strO> pode_: right
[02:07] <apus> how can I trick sites that require quicktime into thinking I have it
[02:07] <jaevel> can anyone help me please?????
[02:07] <pode_> _4strO: ok and what if i wanted to share that folder with a PC not on the LAN?
[02:07] <LastMall> what are you guys playing shoutcast streams with ?
[02:07] <jaevel> my system will not boot after 7.04 update
[02:07] <JohnFlux> mad: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:07] <_4strO> Mad: sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/* give you the error message ?
[02:07] <JohnFlux> mad: sudo  mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:07] <JohnFlux> rather
[02:07] <_4strO> pode_: FTP serv :p
[02:08] <JohnFlux> jaevel: what's the error
[02:08] <Mad> 4str0: no john: done
[02:08] <JohnFlux> Mad: try now
[02:08] <apus> how do I install a quicktime plugin
[02:09] <JohnFlux> !quicktime
[02:09] <jaevel> the bootup gets to "Setting up console and Keymap" and hangs there?
[02:09] <Mad> Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing (error is changing, hopefully getting closer)
[02:09] <apus> !ubotu where are you
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where are you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <JohnFlux> Mad   mkdir that too
[02:09] <Mad> k, one sec
[02:09] <pode_> _4strO: are you familar with winscp3?
[02:10] <Mad> downloading package now, we'll see in a min
[02:10] <rrmm> hey, my wireless hawking hwp54g pci card worked before i upgraded to feisty, it uses rt2500 kernel module, i have researched it a little bit, any ideas?
[02:10] <_4strO> pode_: not very much
[02:10] <Ashex> hehe
[02:10] <Ashex> interesting
[02:10] <_4strO> !codecs | apus
[02:10] <ubotu> apus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <Rictoo> The GLUT library, version 3.7 beta or greater. This is distributed in the MesaDemos package, so if you have installed Mesa you probably also have GLUT. Otherwise, see http://www.opengl.org.
[02:11] <Rictoo> How do I get that?
[02:11] <Rictoo> It seems I don't have it :S
[02:11] <Rictoo> O wait, I got it :D
[02:11] <Ashex> apt-cache search glut :P
[02:12] <_4strO> Rictoo: libglut3 :p
[02:13] <Rictoo> I GIVE UP COMPILING TUXRACER
[02:13] <Rictoo> GODDDD
[02:13] <_4strO> lol
[02:13] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library... no
[02:13] <Rictoo> checking for opengl32 library (with pthreads)... no
[02:13] <Rictoo> LEIK WTF!???
[02:13] <_4strO> Rictoo: sudo apt-get install openarena
[02:13] <b0rt> could some1 help me with upgrade problem? /var/cache/apt/archives/libx11-dev_2%3a1.0.0-0ubuntu9.1_i386.deb: files list file for package `libgdbm3' is missing final newline
[02:13] <Rictoo> if { (eval echo configure:3726: \"$ac_link\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && test -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then
[02:13] <Rictoo> That's what it's doing
[02:14] <Mad> ok, sorry about the wait, still having a problem debconf/config.dat is locked
[02:14] <dthacker> ubotu: openarena
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <Ashex> !info openarena
[02:14] <Rictoo> How but is openarena?
[02:14] <Rictoo> How big is openarena?
[02:14] <ubotu> openarena: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2 (feisty), package size 747 kB, installed size 1652 kB
[02:15] <Rictoo> SO SMALL!???
[02:15] <Rictoo> HOW THE ****!
[02:15] <_4strO> Rictoo: 300Mo at home
[02:15] <Rictoo> Need to get 76.2MB of archives.
[02:15] <Rictoo> ..............................
[02:15] <Ashex> dependencies
[02:15] <jaevel> JohnFlux: please tell you have some idea???
[02:15] <apus> whats a .dsc
[02:15] <Rictoo> =
[02:15] <snarfer> apus, filext.com
[02:16] <czer323> Metapackage? ;)
[02:16] <_4strO> jaevel: your not able to boot your system ?
[02:16] <aro> Anyone know of any open source software that can create ntfs partitions?
[02:17] <snarfer> parted?
[02:17] <_4strO> aro: fdisk ?
[02:17] <aro> Are you asking me or telling me
[02:17] <_4strO> aro: suggesting
[02:17] <aro> I'll try it
[02:17] <jaevel> _4strO: nope, hangs during bootup, at "setting up console font and keymap"
[02:18] <apus> when I right click in firefox download manger and select open containing folder, nothing happens
[02:18] <JohnFlux> jaevel: i don't know sorry.  this release has a kernel with a complete rewrite of the hard disk ide code
[02:18] <jaevel> grrrr
[02:18] <JohnFlux> jaevel: for me that caused problems and I've had to recompile the kernel with the old code
[02:18] <jaevel> hmmmm
[02:19] <jaevel> this is not good for me then i guess
[02:19] <_4strO> jaevel: you have the same pb on the recovery kernel ?
[02:19] <JohnFlux> jaevel: but I got errors saying it couldn't mount /
[02:19] <Mad> still having a problem debconf/config.dat is locked let me reboot and i'll be back to see if it it still locked
[02:19] <jaevel> _4strO: yes
[02:19] <_4strO> wich kenrel is it ?
[02:19] <jaevel> _4strO: i have tried all boot opts...
[02:19] <Mad> could it possibly be the program that notifies you about updates? if so should i turn it off before i reboot
[02:19] <jaevel> let me check
[02:20] <TrAns13nT> is there any kind of gui iptables tool installed in kubuntu?
[02:20] <_4strO> TrAns13nT: not by default
[02:21] <TrAns13nT> _4strO: whats the anme of one then if ya don't mind
[02:21] <_4strO> or perhaps i never seen it :p
[02:21] <jaevel> _4strO: boot opts have 2.6.17.11 and .10
[02:21] <_4strO> jaevel: thats the reason whey i think
[02:21] <jaevel> _4strO: oh?
[02:21] <_4strO> jaevel you need a new one
[02:22] <_4strO> jaevel: can you boot on the livecd ?
[02:22] <rrmm> hey, my wireless hawking hwp54g pci card worked before i upgraded to feisty, it uses rt2500 kernel module, i have researched it a little bit, any ideas?
[02:22] <_4strO> TrAns13nT: firestarter
[02:22] <jaevel> _4strO: im sure i can.. but its the older version...?
[02:22] <_4strO> jaevel: nevermind, just wanna mahe a test
[02:23] <hitmanWilly>  rrmm have you tried to modprobe that particular module?
[02:23] <_4strO> make*
[02:23] <rrmm> hitmanWilly: yes, rt2500 and rt2500pci
[02:23] <rrmm> comes up in a lsmod
[02:23] <jaevel> _4strO: is there anything i can do?
[02:23] <_4strO> jaevel: boot on the liveCd and connect you on the IRC
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> rrmm, so sudo modprobe rt2500 didn't work, huh...
[02:24] <rrmm> hitmanWilly: no
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> rrmm, did it spit back any errors or just not work?
[02:25] <jaevel> _4strO: ok, then?
[02:25] <_4strO> your on it ?
[02:25] <yonkeltron> is there a way to safely restart guidance?
[02:25] <apus> I have some questions about the packages I downloaded from medibuntu.. how do I install it?
[02:25] <jaevel> _4strO: no, im on a windows box now...
[02:25] <boyke> kubuntu is the best
[02:25] <boyke> i just downloaded it
[02:25] <boyke> its great
[02:25] <boyke> the problem is
[02:25] <apus> .... boyke..... we know
[02:25] <_4strO> jaevel: if i give you some command you can type it ?
[02:26] <jaevel> _4strO: yes
[02:26] <boyke> how can i configure my monitor?
[02:26] <boyke> please help me
[02:26] <_4strO> jaevel: you know how to mount your file system ?
[02:26] <boyke> yes
[02:26] <jaevel> _4strO: no
[02:27] <_4strO> jaevel: sudo fdisk -l | grep linux
[02:27] <boyke> how to configure my monitor?
[02:27] <boyke> fujitec
[02:27] <apus> are you in the gui?
[02:27] <boyke> yes
[02:27] <b0rt>  /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-gnome-en_1%3a6.06+20070311_all.deb: files list file for package `libgdbm3' is missing final newline
[02:27] <jaevel> _4strO: i can do this from the live cd?
[02:27] <_4strO> yes
[02:27] <apus> k-menu>system settings>monitor and display
[02:27] <boyke> and?
[02:28] <_4strO> jaevel: the command above will give you two lines
[02:28] <apus> thats where it is boyke
[02:28] <_4strO> we are interested by the linux one not swap
[02:28] <apus> "Could not write to file /mount/data2/.Trash-1000/info/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.trashinfo"
[02:28] <apus> honestly?
[02:28] <boyke> but i cannot find my monitor type there
[02:28] <_4strO> jaevel: ok ?
[02:29] <apus> what setting do you need to change?
[02:29] <jaevel> _4strO: i need to load up the live cd...
[02:29] <_4strO> jaevel: yes ...
[02:29] <apus> how do I make my system tray icons smaller/
[02:29] <jaevel> _4strO: so i can get a command prompt... gonna take a minute... brb
[02:29] <_4strO> jaevel: is your linux connected to internet ?
[02:29] <jaevel> _4strO: yes
[02:29] <boyke> how to set my resolution to 800x640 in warcraft?
[02:30] <_4strO> ok when you're on the liveCd connect you here
[02:30] <yonkeltron> my power manager is out of sync with my hardware...is there a way to restart it?
[02:30] <boyke> how to set my resolution to 800x640 in warcraft?
[02:30] <_4strO> boyke: in the game config ?
[02:30] <_4strO> !repeat | boyke
[02:30] <jaevel> _4strO: ok...
[02:30] <ubotu> boyke: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <boyke> if i change it my screen go very wide
[02:31] <LastMall> should audacious play shoutcast streams ?
[02:31] <boyke> so i must pull my mouse pointer down below to look up the menu in warcraft
[02:31] <boyke> in 800x640
[02:31] <_4strO> boyke: alt + left click on the windows to move it ?
[02:32] <boyke> i want my warcraft go fit on screen
[02:32] <boyke> in 800x640 res
[02:32] <apus> in beryl how come I cant use ctrl and alt in the key binder window?
[02:32] <chijin> 800x640 is not a 4:3 resolution
[02:32] <Skrot> 800x640 isn't exactly a common resolution..
[02:32] <boyke> o ic
[02:32] <Skrot> There's 800x600 and 640x480
[02:33] <boyke> yes
[02:33] <boyke> 800x600
[02:33] <boyke> thats what i meant
[02:33] <Skrot> I've got no idea where you set the resolution for warcraft though.. wine or cedega?
[02:33] <boyke> wine
[02:34] <Skrot> Isn't there some in-game settings in the menu for that?
[02:34] <_4strO> boyke: winecfg
[02:34] <boyke> yes there is itis run properly if i use 1024x768 seting
[02:34] <boyke> but its slow down my fps
[02:35] <_4strO> boyke: winecfg (in a terminal)
[02:35] <Skrot> I think you should ask in #wine, they might have a better knowledge of it
[02:35] <boyke> yes
[02:35] <_4strO> boyke: and then display
[02:35] <boyke> i think i go wrong when i 1st intall my graphic card
[02:35] <Levi> question
[02:36] <TrAns13nT> _4strO: dunno if ya ever answeed, but guidedog seems to work nicely for setting up iptables rules and whatnot ;-)
[02:36] <_4strO> TrAns13nT: guidedog ? ok i note it
[02:36] <Levi> occasionally when I start-up and try to run terminal I cannot type, pressing s brings up some search command and pressing 'd' closes it, any idea why, or hjow to fix that without always rebooting?
[02:36] <boyke> what is the right driver for my gforce4 mx 440? legacy or ?
[02:37] <_4strO> boyke: dont know
[02:37] <TrAns13nT> _4strO: yeah, deps are guarddog, but both where small, guidedog is just a front end, it makes a init script for inputing rules and whatnot
[02:37] <_4strO> Levi: i dont understand
[02:38] <TrAns13nT> now i just gotta figure out how to add that init script to boot ;-)
[02:38] <TrAns13nT> !init > me
[02:38] <zblach> quick thing: when I right click on a zip file, i get an extract context menu. how can I get the same for rar?
[02:38] <boyke> i open system seting
[02:38] <_4strO> TrAns13nT: ok thx for answeer
[02:38] <boyke> please plase guide me
[02:38] <Levi> literally I open terminal and I can type except for the letter 's' and 'd'
[02:38] <boyke> i choose monitor &display
[02:38] <Levi> *cant
[02:38] <bill_k> anyone know how to prevent bluetooth services from starting?
[02:39] <boyke> then i choose hardware tab
[02:39] <_4strO> Levi: never seen that before
[02:39] <zblach> Kyral: i read that page, and from what I can tell, .rar *should* have that context menu
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> 5cepoN{1T
[02:39] <boyke> i change to administrator mode
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> oops, good thing that's not a useful password :)
[02:39] <Alonea> thought I would give another shot at asking how to either remove or disable the package "network-manager"
[02:40] <boyke> and configure on my nvidia
[02:40] <_4strO> Alonea: no idea
[02:40] <boyke> so what should i choose there?
[02:40] <aegies042404> about the blue tooth...got to system settings in kde.... then advanced
[02:41] <Alonea> _4strO: I am looking on the internet and a LOT of people are having trouble with it. Thing is, it reports there is no internet connection to programs like gaim, when there is in fact a connection.
[02:41] <jaevel> _4strO: got a problem, my live cd of Ubuntu doesnt load "Error loading kernel" and my Xubuntu cd can only install, but has a opts for repair broken system?
[02:41] <boyke> asto : please help me :(
[02:41] <_4strO> Alonea: right click onthe knetworkmanager
[02:41] <apus> how do I make the system tray icons smaller, so they are double rowed and take up les width
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> apus: you have to make your panel higher.
[02:42] <Mad_Dawg> ok, 4str0, ashex, and john, thanks for helping me clear up what i had messed up by trying things over and over, I am not longer getting errors about locked files, or invalid paths, I also uninstalled automatix, but I am back to the original problem that I had
[02:42] <_4strO> jaevel: dont repeat, you dont have any other liveCD ?
[02:42] <Alonea> _4strO: they are 2 separate programs, though I think knetworkmanager is in hand with it. I do have knetworkmanager turned off from startup and don't use it. It does not work.
[02:42] <jaevel> _4strO: let me check again... brb
[02:42] <Mad_Dawg> when i goto install either java, or vmware-player the eula comes up in a blue box, with Ok at the bottom of it and I have no way to pass though it that I know of
[02:42] <_4strO> Alonea: ok
[02:43] <_4strO> Mad_Dawg: TAB :p
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> Mad_Dawg: you may have to hit tab - then enter.
[02:43] <apus> leeleejun: its double high
[02:43] <boyke> can i play counterstrike with wine?
[02:43] <Mad_Dawg> omg, *hangs head in shame*
[02:43] <_4strO> Mad_Dawg: and space bar to active
[02:43] <apus> I saw them go smalelr and double layered themselves when I had more in there
[02:43] <apus> but now there is only 6 and they are all in a row, when 3x2 would take up less space
[02:43] <Mad_Dawg> thanks
[02:43] <_4strO> boyke: i try to but never succed
[02:43] <whatthefmanager> Trying to make ps2 mouse work. on Live feisty cd, mouse didnt work, but I installed anyway. then, after install still doesnt. Later, on the 5th boot +- it worked, without me doing anything. worked again for a couple more times. NOw it stopped working again! win98 is on same box and mouse works there. note, ps2 mouse is connected to an atx form card. Help anyone?
[02:44] <bobbob1016> I've been trying to get my BCM43** working in Feisty for a few hours now, I've tried this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29#head-f744e28e6c78eb83d22be77819b130016a8e51f3 but still no luck, any ideas?
[02:44] <bobbob1016> the wifi light doesn't go on
[02:44] <Mad_Dawg> thanks, and thanks again guys, i feel like an idiot, but an idiot with vmware working makes me much happier
[02:44] <_4strO> :)
[02:44] <boyke> why my kunbuntu package is not genuine?
[02:45] <Alonea> bobbob1016: did you remove the bcm43xx module?
[02:45] <soulrider> boyke:  ????
[02:45] <bobbob1016> Alonea: I didn't think to on a fresh install, one second
[02:45] <Alonea> bobbob1016: goto a terminal and type in "sudo rmmod bcm43xx" if light comes on ( I am assuming ndiswrapper is installed correctly)
[02:46] <Alonea> bobbob1016: if light comes on, then you can blacklist bcm43xx
[02:46] <boyke> i tried to send bug report and there is popup a massage said your kubuntu is not genuine
[02:47] <Alonea> bobbob1016: you might have to redo modprobe ndiswrapper too. I have a Broadcom card too
[02:47] <trol0s_> formatting my lap with ubuntu now and installing kubuntu instead :)
[02:47] <bobbob1016> Alonea: no light, I'll remodprobe
[02:48] <Alonea> bobbob1016: what does it say when you do ndiswrapper -l ?
[02:48] <apus> so can anyone tell me how to force the system tray to take up less space, by using the smaller icons
[02:48] <boyke> how can i make my kubuntu to become genuine?
[02:48] <Mad_Dawg> there is also an alternative to broadcom wireless cards other than ndiswrapper, much easier, and faster, sec for a link
[02:48] <bobbob1016> bcmwl5 : driver installed
[02:48] <bobbob1016>         device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[02:48] <flaccid> boyke: show us a screenshot
[02:48] <boyke> ok
[02:48] <boyke> where can i send?
[02:49] <bobbob1016> Alonea: sudo depmod -a    then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:49] <Alonea> bobbob1016: ok, then blacklisting bcm43xx is needed. All I know is I have no trouble blacklisting it and my wifi working.
[02:49] <bobbob1016> Alonea: no light still
[02:49] <Alonea> bobbob1016: try this. "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[02:49] <Mad_Dawg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 try that for a broadcom card before you use ndiswrapper
[02:49] <Mad_Dawg> i was able to get my wireless up in about 30 seconds, and i am a linux noob
[02:50] <boyke> o im so noob tooo
[02:50] <prak> can someone recommend a similar product as dbpoweramp for kubuntu for compressing the kbps rate for mp3s?
[02:50] <Kubuntu_noob> how do you know what there is to get with apt-get?
[02:50] <Alonea> Mad_Dawg: hmm. I am just used to doing ndiswrapper so much that I can do it in about a minute or so.
[02:50] <_4strO> prak: k3b
[02:50] <prak> thank you _4str0
[02:51] <MinceR> i keep getting errors like "/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase" and "/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/serenity.so could not be unloaded" and "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase"
[02:51] <boyke> k3b is good aplication
[02:51] <boyke> :)
[02:51] <MinceR> i reinstalled kdelibs but that didn't help
[02:51] <MinceR> how can i fix this?
[02:51] <trol0s_> I got a big problem with wifi in that I couldn't get WPA to work :P
[02:51] <Alonea> Mad_Dawg: I also have a Broadcom 4318
[02:51] <trol0s_> solved it by changing my net tho
[02:51] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: ???
[02:52] <boyke> yes
[02:52] <Kubuntu_noob> huh?
[02:52] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: dont understand your question
[02:53] <trol0s_> Kubuntu_noob: as far as I know, it's often listed in the synaptic prog or something
[02:53] <boyke> how can i change my partition?
[02:53] <bill_k> boyke, use a live cd and qtparted
[02:53] <Mad_Dawg> if you have a 4318, then your choice is pretty much limited to ndiswrapper, but for most of the other broadcom cards that works, it lets you use the linux drivers, and just strips the firmware from the binary files
[02:53] <whatthefmanager> HELP, trying to make ps2 mouse work. on Live feisty cd, mouse didnt work, but I installed anyway. then, after install still doesnt. Later, on the 5th boot +- it worked, without me doing anything. worked again for a couple more times. NOw it stopped working again! win98 is on same box and mouse works there. note, ps2 mouse is connected to an atx form card. Help anyone?
[02:53] <boyke> o ok tks bill
[02:53] <apus> so can anyone tell me how to force the system tray to take up less space, by using the smaller icons
[02:53] <Kubuntu_noob> Doesn't apt-get go and get stuff off the net to install and then install it?
[02:53] <boyke> can i use partition program on my gui?
[02:53] <bill_k> boyke, sure, just be careful not to erase anything
[02:54] <Mad_Dawg> well, bad new vmware gave me one more problem, it says my kernal is too new, is there anything I can do to fix this?
[02:54] <Kubuntu_noob> I should change my nick to Linux_noob
[02:54] <Alonea> does anyone know of any other place I could ask how to disable or remove "network-manager" package (without getting rid of kubuntu-desktop package preferably)?
[02:54] <Kubuntu_noob> new to all Linux really
[02:54] <bill_k> boyke,  the live cd is a gui, if you want you can probably do a sudo apt-get install qtparted
[02:55] <trol0s_> Kubuntu_noob: me too! installed it yesterday :D here in Ubuntu there's a prog called Synaptic that lists the prog you can get
[02:55] <teri> !init > me
[02:55] <boyke> o ic ok tks sorry im very noob
[02:55] <jaevel> _4strO: sorry i do not have any other cds to load from...
[02:55] <Kubuntu_noob> sortof like Xandros Networks
[02:55] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: in kubuntu it's adept
[02:55] <prak> !k3b
[02:55] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:55] <_4strO> jaevel: :/
[02:55] <Kubuntu_noob> thankx
[02:56] <Kubuntu_noob> cool
[02:56] <trol0s_> :)
[02:56] <prak> can k3b convert mp3 files to mp3 files?
[02:56] <_4strO> prak: libk3b2-mp3
[02:56] <Mad_Dawg> does anyone know of the proper commands i should use to get java, and the mozilla plugin, via command line for 7.04
[02:56] <Kubuntu_noob> I was going to try wine out and wondered if there is a package through apt
[02:56] <jaevel> _4strO: my live cd is broken... i dont know why... fails to load kernel..
[02:56] <_4strO> prak: that i dont know
[02:57] <prak> _4str0: b/c it looks like it's good for audio cd and dvd burning only
[02:57] <_4strO> jaevel: download a new one :p
[02:57] <Kubuntu_noob> I installed from the <192 MB alternate CD jaevel
[02:57] <_4strO> prak: right
[02:57] <Kubuntu_noob> how much RAM do you have?
[02:57] <Kubuntu_noob> I only have 128
[02:57] <_4strO> prak: dont think you want reencode some mp3
[02:58] <boyke> wow 128 mb and u can run kubuntu?
[02:58] <Kubuntu_noob> there is CD, DVD and alternate CD
[02:58] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: you should try xubuntu
[02:58] <bill_k> boy yeah
[02:58] <bobbob101685> the light came on, but when I tried connecting it stayed at 28% configuring device, and after a reboot, the light is off
[02:58] <Kubuntu_noob> alternate anyway
[02:58] <boyke> thats fantastic
[02:58] <bill_k> Kubuntu_noob, xubuntu may be faster
[02:58] <prak> _4str0: what do you mean reencode some mp3?
[02:58] <Kubuntu_noob> I don't know if that is just a special LiveCD or if it installs lighter also
[02:59] <_4strO> prak: can k3b convert mp3 files to mp3 files?
[02:59] <louieb39c> Ok well I attempted to install the suse kde k-menu and decided to try to get the x86 package to work on x64 kubuntu 7.04..does anyone know how I can repair kde?
[02:59] <boyke> what is the difference between kubuntu and xubuntu?
[02:59] <Kubuntu_noob> will pretty much everything work the same  KDE and stuff>
[02:59] <_4strO> boyke: kubuntu use KDE and Xubuntu xfce
[02:59] <bill_k> xubuntu is based on xfce, kubuntu is based on kde
[02:59] <bill_k> or what he said :D
[03:00] <Kubuntu_noob> is xfce pretty nice?
[03:00] <boyke> o ic hihihihihi
[03:00] <bobbob101685> Alonea: the light came on, but when I tried connecting it stayed at 28% configuring device, and after a reboot, the light is off
[03:00] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: pretty light
[03:00] <bill_k> xfce is nice and really fast
[03:00] <dasnipa> Kubuntu_noob, xfce is designed to run on old hardware
[03:00] <boyke> xfce is not full gui right?
[03:00] <bill_k> yes it is
[03:00] <Kubuntu_noob> this is pretty slow
[03:00] <Kubuntu_noob> 366Mhz 128MB TP600
[03:01] <louieb39c> anyone know the command to repair kde over apt-get?
[03:01] <dasnipa> Kubuntu_noob, then you might consider xfce... good lord
[03:01] <levi_> tp?
[03:01] <_4strO> jaevel: try to boot your linux and wait a long time, it will passing
[03:01] <trol0s_> why change if it works? :)
[03:01] <solemnwarning> Hi all
[03:01] <bill_k> http://www.xubuntu.org/screenshots
[03:01] <boyke> yes try xubuntu its great to
[03:01] <louieb39c> kubuntu-noob - you might be better off with fluxbuntu
[03:01] <dasnipa> Kubuntu_noob, i can respect that though... when i was first experimenting with linux it was on an old 200 mhz p2...
[03:01] <solemnwarning> Does kubuntu do software mixing by default?
[03:01] <Kubuntu_noob> however it is fairly tolerable
[03:01] <Alonea> bobbob1016: you need to add ndiswrapper to the modules file if its not and blacklist bcm43xx in the blacklist file or it won't stick
[03:01] <rrmm> hitmanWilly: sorry was eating, in response to if it spits any errors it does not, it shows up in a lsmod | grep rt2500
[03:01] <Alonea> bobbob1016: which card do you specifically have? look under lspci
[03:02] <bobbob101685> Alonea: one second...
[03:02] <rrmm> hitmanWilly: lights never go on
[03:02] <bobbob101685> Alonea: hardware database?
[03:02] <Alonea> adept just did a smart thing for once. if I choose "purge" instead of "uninstall" it uninstalls the "network-manager" and "knetworkmanager" without removing anything else
[03:02] <bobbob101685> no, one second
[03:02] <solemnwarning> Anyone know?
[03:02] <boyke> i think linux community now must consentrate on game developing
[03:03] <solemnwarning> boyke: I disagree
[03:03] <boyke> so linux is more powerfull then m...oft...
[03:03] <bobbob101685> Alonea: 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:03] <_4strO> solemnwarning: what do you mean by software mixing
[03:03] <solemnwarning> I think game developers should write portable code and make linux binaries, or release the source
[03:03] <solemnwarning> Like UT
[03:03] <solemnwarning> Software audio mixing
[03:03] <levi_> Any idea if themes found on KDE look,org will work with Kubuntu?
[03:03] <Mad_Dawg> bobob, you should try the link i provided earlier, that is the same card i have
[03:03] <boyke> solemwarning: i agree
[03:04] <boyke> but how can make game developers change to linux?
[03:04] <solemnwarning> Allowing more then 1 audio stream to be played through a cheap soundcard
[03:04] <Alonea> bobbob1016:ok, that one link that Mad_Dawg gave you might better serve you. Have you tried it?
[03:04] <solemnwarning> boyke: Switch more users
[03:04] <_4strO> levi_: it should
[03:04] <solemnwarning> They'll have more pressure to write portable games as more people switch
[03:04] <Alonea> bobbob1016: will be right back
[03:04] <intelikey> i found a bug.  i do believe.    in the LTS    i can login with upper or lower case
[03:05] <boyke> yes but i think that is the key
[03:05] <voidmage> Does openoffice not listen to the compose key?
[03:05] <_4strO> intelikey: normal
[03:05] <boyke> if linux can find a way to attract game developers
[03:05] <rrmm> intelikey: wazzup?
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, that's not a bug, its a "feature" :)
[03:05] <boyke> then linux become the superior os
[03:05] <_4strO> intelikey:only in the login name
[03:05] <bobbob101685> Mad_Dawg: could you paste it again, I had issues and had to reboot, that is why I addeed the 85 to my name
[03:05] <Mad_Dawg> one sec
[03:05] <louieb39c> anyone know how to repair kde?
[03:05] <solemnwarning> boyke: It's already a superior system
[03:05] <intelikey> _4strO hitmanWilly ROOT  ?
[03:05] <boyke> i mean for games
[03:05] <intelikey> _4strO hitmanWilly  in console ?
[03:06] <solemnwarning> Yeah
[03:06] <Mad_Dawg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:06] <apus> so can anyone tell me how to force the system tray to take up less space, by using the smaller icons
[03:06] <intelikey> login: ROOT
[03:06] <intelikey> TTY24 [ROOT@~] 
[03:06] <_4strO> intelikey: dont understand ...
[03:06] <Mad_Dawg> if you follow the commands exactly as he states it should only take a couple of minutes max
[03:06] <trol0s_> I'm new to linux and installed ubuntu feisty, but now I see I would like more options and customiszations.. should I install kubuntu instead?
[03:06] <rrmm> trol0s_: install beryl
[03:06] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, is it the ACTUAL root acct or just another one named ROOT?
[03:07] <Mad_Dawg> does anyone know of the proper commands i should use to get java, and the mozilla plugin, via command line for 7.04
[03:07] <_4strO> trol0s_: try
[03:07] <rrmm> Mad_Dawg: get the restricted package
[03:07] <trol0s_> beryl? hm
[03:07] <BluesKaj> hey gents ..my / partition seems corrupted ...it tells me apt is missing as is Xorg , so i can't reconfigure xserver-xorg in oder to boot into the login scrn ...running on the live cd right now .../home is in a separate partition but I'm still not sure how to proceed to reinstall the OS on to the / partition.
[03:07] <intelikey> hitmanWilly there is nothing named ROOT .
[03:07] <_4strO> trol0s_: you will never know exept if you try ;)
[03:07] <Mad_Dawg> rrmm: how should i go about doing that, i am a linux noob
[03:07] <intelikey> TTY24 [ROOT@~]  LS
[03:07] <intelikey> TTY24 [ROOT@~] 
[03:08] <bill_k> intelikey, remember me with the bluetooth issue?  still having it :(
[03:08] <intelikey> everything is upper case in there.
[03:08] <bill_k> lol
[03:08] <rrmm> !restricted
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i know, but could a ROOT acct have been created somehow? it would be technically possible, but yes, that's a pretty good security bug
[03:08] <boyke> solemnwarning: linux is superior without a game
[03:08] <solemnwarning> intelikey: The uppercase thing is somthing to do with an old UNIX thing
[03:08] <intelikey> bill_k sorry to hear.
[03:08] <trol0s_> _4strO: hehe true
[03:08] <intelikey> solemnwarning i'm all ears
[03:09] <solemnwarning> I'm not sure what the puropse is, but some old UNIX system acted like that if you used an uppercase username
[03:09] <rrmm> Mad_Dawg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <Alonea> yay! it works now. Ok, I found that if I choose "purge" in adept instead of remove/uninstall, it will remove knetworkmanager and network-manager leaving everything else alone
[03:09] <Kubuntu_noob> So xcfe might detect my TP600 sound hardware?
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, if you really want to test, try different combos ie rooT, Root, RooT, etc
[03:09] <bill_k> intelikey, any other things you can think of trying?   what confuses me is that  the kbd works fine in bios /grub
[03:09] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: if Kubuntu do, Xubuntu will do too
[03:09] <BluesKaj> intelikey was that TTY cmnd aimed at me?
[03:10] <rrmm> Mad_Dawg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java thats for java
[03:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj no.
[03:10] <Kubuntu_noob> kubuntu doesn't though
[03:10] <Kubuntu_noob> I also went through this process of modifying files alsa-base or something
[03:10] <bill_k> rrmm, why?
[03:10] <intelikey> bill_k not really.  i'm not much use when i have something as big as this stairing me in the face.
[03:11] <Kubuntu_noob> found in a forum
[03:11] <Kubuntu_noob> that didn't work either.
[03:11] <_4strO> :/
[03:11] <Mad_Dawg> rrmm: thanks
[03:11] <supernix> Hi
[03:11] <bill_k> intelikey, ok, no problem
[03:11] <BluesKaj> how do i install just the OS on / , don't nedd /home , since it's already installed on it's own partition ?
[03:11] <Kubuntu_noob> somebody said they got sound to work on kubuntu with TP600
[03:11] <BluesKaj> err need
[03:11] <intelikey> hitmanWilly TTY24 [ROOT@~]  GREP -IE ROOT /ETC/PASSWD
[03:11] <intelikey> ROOT:X:0:0:ROOT:***
[03:12] <intelikey> it's real root  it's just an upper cased console
[03:12] <solemnwarning> intelikey: yes
[03:12] <supernix> I tried changing the graphic settings for my video card and monitor and after I clicked on test it just gave me a black X and very small white and black dots in the background
[03:12] <Kubuntu_noob> My goal is to be able to survive 100% without windows
[03:12] <Kubuntu_noob> not there yet
[03:12] <supernix> How do I get it to go back or fix this ?
[03:13] <intelikey> it works for any user.
[03:13] <intelikey> TTY24 [GREG@~]  LS /
[03:13] <intelikey> BIN   DEV  HOME  MEDIA  OPT   ROOT  SYS  USR
[03:13] <intelikey> BOOT  ETC  LIB   MNT    PROC  SBIN  TMP  VAR
[03:13] <rrmm> hitmanWilly: still here?
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> rrmm, yeah
[03:13] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: if you're not a player it will be easy
[03:13] <Mad_Dawg> mine as well, but i believe that is a little off, my second choice is to run only GameXP from games on my pc, and linux with vmware and xp from my laptop
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, hmm that IS weird...
[03:13] <Kubuntu_noob> game player?
[03:13] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: just buy some RAM and put beryl, you will never close your linux :p
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, hold on, let me try
[03:14] <Kubuntu_noob> beryl?
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, same for me on feisty
[03:14] <trol0s_> it uses more ram?
[03:14] <rrmm> bah, lots of people having trouble with feisty and wlan
[03:14] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it's really confusing.   cause there is a differance in  LS  and  LS  one is upper case and the other lower case....
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i wonder if that works on other distros?
[03:15] <intelikey> hitmanWilly idk.
[03:15] <_4strO> Kubuntu_noob: http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/beryl/video/x14e96_a7v-kubuntu-beryl-kibadock-fyre
[03:15] <intelikey> TTY24 [ROOT@~]  LS
[03:15] <intelikey> -BASH: LS: COMMAND NOT FOUND
[03:15] <intelikey> TTY24 [ROOT@~]  LS
[03:15] <intelikey> BIN  LOCAL
[03:15] <intelikey> see   ^
[03:16] <apus> so can anyone tell me how to force the system tray to take up less space, by using the smaller icons
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, did you notice it caps EVERYTHING?
[03:17] <bobbob1016> Mad_Dawg: I have the light on now, but my when I try to connect, the balloon stays on 28% configuring device
[03:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yes that's what i was just pointing out  ^
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok
[03:17] <levi_> ...
[03:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it all appears as upper but you can caps lock and it's true upper  though there is no visable diff
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, hmm very weird indeed...
[03:18] <rrmm> LS: command not found
[03:18] <levi_> Anyone know of a .rar extractor for Kubuntu?
[03:18] <rrmm> 7zip?
[03:18] <flaccid> !find unrar
[03:18] <ubotu> Found: unrar-free, unrar
[03:18] <_4strO> levi_: ark
[03:18] <flaccid> !info unrar
[03:18] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[03:18] <flaccid> !info ark
[03:18] <ubotu> ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 292 kB, installed size 1016 kB
[03:18] <levi_> ark doesnt work
[03:18] <flaccid> why?
[03:18] <_4strO> levi_: sudo apt-get install unrar (before)
[03:18] <rrmm> u need rar support for ark at first
[03:18] <intelikey> rrmm but you did an upper case LS i did both upper and lower case LS  though they looked exactly alike.
[03:19] <rrmm> psh
[03:19] <Mad_Dawg> bobbob1016: ok, sounds like that fix might not work for you, give me one second to finish working on my java problem, and i'll look it up and see if i can help you
[03:20] <levi_> *p
[03:20] <rrmm> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[03:22] <levi_> ??? uhh
[03:22] <levi_> "Removing kubuntu-desktop"
[03:22] <levi_> Could that be a problem?
[03:22] <_4strO> levi_: if it only remove this package no
[03:23] <Mad_Dawg> bobbob1016: does you wireless show bars, or does it act like you have no signal?
[03:23] <bobbob1016> levi_: that seems like a problem, but kubuntu-desktop is just a list saying "all this should be installed" from what I understand
[03:23] <_4strO> but be carefull that he didn't remove all kde packages
[03:23] <bobbob1016> Mad_Dawg: it shows about 50%
[03:23] <levi_> I ran sudo apt-get -f install
[03:23] <bobbob1016> Mad_Dawg: in the network thing, when I click it
[03:23] <levi_> so probably just the package?
[03:24] <Mad_Dawg> bobbob1016: i'm not sure then, when i had the problem, it went from showing 0% to showing 90% and working instantly, i think you might have to use ndiswrapper
[03:24] <_4strO> levi_: you ran sudo apt-get -f install and he propose you to remove kubuntu-desktoip ?
[03:25] <levi_> no just did it.
[03:25] <levi_> Never asked me
[03:25] <Mad_Dawg> be back in a min, have to reboot
[03:25] <bobbob1016> Mad_Dawg: I was, then I reinstalled feisty, just to make sure everything was clean, and tried this way
[03:25] <_4strO> levi_: dont need to remove this
[03:25] <levi_> Was it fatal to do so?
[03:25] <_4strO> nop
[03:26] <Levi> dang.. thats taken
[03:26] <Levi-> Okay
[03:26] <_4strO> Levi: just dont forget to reinstall it before next upgrade (in about 6 month) ;)
[03:26] <rrmm> !wifi
[03:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:26] <Levi-> why cant I now?
[03:26] <rrmm> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[03:27] <_4strO> Levi-: noway, it will remember you
[03:27] <apus> can anyone tell me how to force small icons in the task bar
[03:27] <rrmm> apus: needs to be in the theme
[03:27] <Levi-> Wtf it uninstalled kaffiene? *sp
[03:27] <_4strO> apus: just reduce the bar weight
[03:28] <_4strO> apus: just reduce the bar height
[03:28] <Levi-> *sigh
[03:28] <Levi-> how do you spell it correctly?
[03:28] <_4strO> Levi-: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ...
[03:28] <trol0s_> is there any way to turn off touchpad tap-to-click in kubuntu?
[03:28] <apus> _4str0: no, I like the bar this high, I just dont think that the system try needs 2 inches of my screen to show 6 icons
[03:28] <_4strO> apus: dont know
[03:29] <Levi-> thanks
[03:29] <apus> there are ZERO options in "configure system tray"
[03:29] <_4strO> trol0s_: i want it too :) or just manage the sensibility :p
[03:32] <apus> can anyone tell me how to force small icons in the task bar
[03:32] <apus> sorry not the task bar, the system tray
[03:33] <trol0s_> _4strO, hmm so there isn't eh? really big problem for me here in ubuntu..
[03:34] <trol0s_> typing is almost impossible
[03:34] <_4strO> trol0s_: ^^
[03:35] <_4strO> trol0s_: i never finf really
[03:35] <_4strO> trol0s_: never search
[03:35] <_4strO> i suppose there is one
[03:35] <Toyd> trol0s_,  stop trolling
[03:35] <Toyd> trol0s_,  you troll
[03:36] <Toyd> ;p
[03:36] <Mad> _4str0: what were those commands to clear my cache in apt-get again, i'm sorry i'll be writing them down this time
[03:36] <theringmaster> I use a trackball and when I scroll sideways in opera, it goes back in history
[03:36] <theringmaster> is there a way to stop this
[03:36] <_4strO> Mad: sudo apt-get clean
[03:37] <Mad> _4str0: thanks
[03:37] <_4strO> in fact you can clean manualyy in the /var/cache/apt/ directory
[03:37] <trol0s_> Toyd: woot :P
[03:39] <trol0s_> Toyd, fact is, there is no option for it in ubuntu, seems to be a bug of some sort.. I tought maby kubuntu with it's more elaborate options would have something for it
[03:39] <czer323> kubuntu is rock'n my socks.
[03:39] <theringmaster>  I use a trackball and when I scroll sideways in opera, it goes back in history
[03:39] <Toyd> its frustrating my pants
[03:39] <trol0s_> Toyd, that was the first time anyone has called me a troll.. confused me :D
[03:39] <Toyd> czer323,
[03:39] <theringmaster> how do I stop this
[03:40] <czer323> Toyd: oh yes, it did that to me too.  Then, I figured it out.
[03:41] <trol0s_> theringmaster, ah I read about that too while searching for my touchpad problem.. don't remember the solution tho :)
[03:41] <theringmaster> could you look for it
[03:42] <_4strO> !troll
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <_4strO> !trol
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <evfreshman2025> someone help me with installing Java Please
[03:42] <_4strO> evfreshman2025: plugin java ?
[03:42] <evfreshman2025> i need step by step assisitance, not a stupid website
[03:43] <evfreshman2025> Yeah
[03:43] <Mad> thanks to all that helped me, java is now working, i am still having troubles with vmware player
[03:43] <_4strO> Mad: try xen
[03:43] <Mad> it says that it has not been correctly configured with the kernel, anyone have any suggestions?
[03:44] <trol0s_> theringmaster, looking
[03:44] <czer323> theringmaster: sounds like a mouse gesture.  Opera can hold a certain key, move the mouse direction (back/forward) and then go back in history, or forward.
[03:44] <Mad> _4str0: does it work properly with vmware files if needed? i will be needed to transfer some at times for school/work purposes
[03:44] <evfreshman2025> _4str0: Can you help?
[03:44] <trol0s_> theringmaster, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad#Horizontal_Scroll_Issues_with_Firefox
[03:45] <_4strO> evfreshman2025: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 Java plugin for firefox
[03:45] <apus> my soundcard, mouse, and system tray need fixing, I have asked the questions over and over, no one seems to help, where else can I go for help
[03:45] <theringmaster> I am not using firefox
[03:46] <rrmm> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[03:46] <trol0s_> hehe I know, but that's what I found earlier today :P
[03:46] <theringmaster> This is happening in opera
[03:46] <evfreshman2025> okay now how do i install Java the program?
[03:46] <rrmm> !java | evfreshman2025
[03:46] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:48] <bobby> how do i enable the restricted nvidia driver
[03:48] <BenPA> hi all ... I got a quick question ... I just re-install 6.10 and now have an error "cannot open theme file ... /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme/kunbuntu"  any clue how I can reinstall or correct this ... thanks
[03:49] <TheCreationist> I'm still having a problem getting sound working since upgrading to Feisty.  I've run through all the troubleshooting tutorials I could find and everything seems fine (Ubuntu recognizes my device, driver, etc.)  Anyone have any ideas?
[03:49] <Mad> thanks again all, i must leave, but i look forward to being the one helping instead of the noob asking at some point in time
[03:51] <BenPA> hi all ... I got a quick question ... I just re-install 6.10 and now have an error "cannot open theme file ... /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme/kunbuntu"  any clue how I can reinstall or correct this ... thanks
[03:51] <trol0s_> BenPA, yeah you spelled kubuntu wrong? ;P
[03:51] <bobby> any help with enableing navidia driver
[03:51] <_4strO> trol0s_: sudo apt-get install ksynaptics
[03:51] <BenPA> sorry
[03:51] <trol0s_> _4strO, it solves it!?
[03:51] <snarfer> What is adept?
[03:51] <snarfer> !adept
[03:51] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:51] <snarfer> Ah
[03:52] <BenPA> hi all ... I got a quick question ... I just re-install 6.10 and now have an error "cannot open theme file ... /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme/kubuntu"  any clue how I can reinstall or correct this ... thanks
[03:52] <apus> whats the command to comment all selected lines in kate
[03:52] <theringmaster> here is a thread to the problem i am having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[03:53] <TheCreationist> I'm still having a problem getting sound working since upgrading to Feisty.  I've run through all the troubleshooting tutorials I could find and everything seems fine (Ubuntu recognizes my device, driver, etc.)  Anyone have any ideas?
[03:53] <trol0s_> _4strO, I'll try it after installing kubuntu now :)
[03:54] <BenPA> trol0s any clue about my problem ... I know my spelling needs some work :)
[03:55] <_4strO> trol0s_: dont it's not the good one :p
[03:55] <snarfer> How do I add beryl-manager to my startup items?
[03:55] <TheCreationist> Okay, so apparently Feisty doesn't recognize as much hardware as Edgy did... after upgrading I suddenly don't have a cd burner now?  Anyone?
[03:55] <_4strO> !autostart
[03:55] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:55] <trol0s_> BenPA, I installed linux for the first time yesterday, I have no frickin idea :D
[03:55] <BenPA> ahhh ok
[03:55] <apus> how do I comment all selected lines in kate?
[03:56] <_4strO> !autostart | snarfer
[03:56] <ubotu> snarfer: please see above
[03:56] <BenPA> hi all ... I got a quick question ... I just re-install 6.10 and now have an error "cannot open theme file ... /usr/share/apps/kdm/theme/kubuntu"  any clue how I can reinstall or correct this ... thanks
[03:56] <_4strO> apus: ctrl + d
[03:56] <apus> _4strO: doesn't work
[03:57] <rrmm> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[03:57] <_4strO> apus: cause kate did'nt know how to comment in this file (eg xorg.conf)
[03:57] <theringmaster> ne help for my problem?
[03:58] <_4strO> BenPA: sudio apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <_4strO> BenPA: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <TheCreationist> Hey, since upgrading to Feisty, Ubuntu no longer sees my cd-burner.  How can I fix this??
[03:59] <BenPA> ok thanks 4strO will try that
[03:59] <unix_infidel> TheCreationist: from fiesty to?
[03:59] <unix_infidel> erm, what did you upgrade from?
[03:59] <snarfer> Thanks
[03:59] <BluesKaj> ok, Ive reinstalled kubuntu on / , now i'd like to get the /home partition to launch at bootup ...what 's next ?
[03:59] <TheCreationist> unix_infidel: Edgy.  It was actually a clean install, but everything worked fine in Edgy.
[03:59] <theringmaster> anyone know about my problem??
[03:59] <BenPA> I had to re-install 6.10 because 7.04 screwed my networking up really badly
[04:00] <TheCreationist> BenPA: I'm about to have to go back to 6.10 myself... no sound, no cd burner.  And no one seems to know how to fix the sound, but a lot of people have that problem.
[04:00] <unix_infidel> TheCreationist: what exact problem are you having, it's not seeing it, what application isnt seeint it?
[04:00] <_4strO> good n8 all
[04:01] <TheCreationist> unix_infidel: It's just plain not available.  I have two CD drives...a burner, and a DVD drive.  /dev/ only shows on cdrom.  And using the file manager won't read anything on the disc in my burner.
[04:01] <unix_infidel> TheCreationist: check your dmesg
[04:01] <unix_infidel> remember after .18 there's a new way ot assigning all ide devices.
[04:01] <BenPA> that's what is is to be apart of something new and wonderful ... keep the faith
[04:02] <theringmaster> so I guess no one knows about my problem.
[04:03] <TheCreationist> unix_infidel: How would I remember that? lol  I just installed Ubuntu and figured it would work like Edgy.
[04:03] <TheCreationist> unix_infidel: In my dmesg, what am I looking for?
[04:03] <bill_k> !bluetooth
[04:03] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:04] <BluesKaj> theringmaster, what is your problem ?
[04:04] <TheCreationist> theringmaster: Instead of constantly asking for help on your "problem," why not tell us what it is?  We may have missed it the first time you told us.
[04:04] <theringmaster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:05] <theringmaster> you guys were here when I ask for help originally
[04:05] <BluesKaj> not me
[04:05] <TheCreationist> theringmaster: Even if we were, do you see all that writing in the window?  Like I said, we may have MISSED it ;)
[04:06] <theringmaster> ok ok
[04:06] <TheCreationist> How can I debug the problem with Ubuntu not seeing my optical drives??
[04:06] <jtt> dont get upset if your question is missed wait 10 minutes and ask again
[04:06] <theringmaster> you can stop saying that now
[04:07] <BluesKaj> I also have my probs , trying to get /home partition to boot after installing feisty on /
[04:07] <rrmm> theringmaster: does ur bios see it?
[04:07] <theringmaster> see what
[04:07] <rrmm> BluesKaj: make it mount it on boot
[04:07] <rrmm> bill_k: can u plz help me
[04:07] <Rictoo> haha
[04:08] <Rictoo> OpenArena is alot of fun
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yes rmm , id' like to do that , but how ?
[04:08] <rrmm> add it to ur fstab
[04:08] <rrmm> !google
[04:08] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:09] <BluesKaj> gee thx
[04:09] <rrmm> if i were to do tht id search google first
[04:09] <rrmm> !fstab
[04:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:10] <jtt> yeah i didnt know about the linux specific business nice
[04:10] <theringmaster> can someone help me with this problemhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:11] <jtt> theringmaster, i would be dont use that sort of mouse
[04:12] <TheCreationist> How can I debug the problem with Feisty not seeing my cd burner?
[04:12] <facugaich> Hi, how can I prevent kubuntu from checking windows partition at boot?
[04:12] <jtt> TheCreationist, have you executed this  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and save /etc/X11/xorg.conf FIRST
[04:13] <TheCreationist> jtt: No... I installed Feisty.  Figured it would work as Edgy did... never read anything about doing what you said.
[04:13] <jtt> TheCreationist, sorry wrong  the person
[04:13] <TheCreationist> jtt: ah... k.
[04:13] <jtt> theringmaster, have you executed this  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and save /etc/X11/xorg.conf FIRST
[04:14] <theringmaster> that is not my problem
[04:14] <theringmaster> This is opera specific
[04:14] <jtt> TheCreationist, first of all execute  lspci -vv > /tmp/vv   edit  /tmp/vv and see if the cd signature is in taht file
[04:15] <jtt> theringmaster, yes i rememeber you saying that in the beginning so again i cant help as i have never used opera
[04:15] <rr72> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[04:15] <TheCreationist> jtt: No, it is not.
[04:16] <jtt> TheCreationist, then the os is not finding it, does the bios see it what brand Lite-on maybe
[04:16] <apus> can anyone tell me how to force small icons in the system tray
[04:16] <theringmaster> ne 1 know how to fix this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:17] <TheCreationist> jtt: Not sure... haven't checked that.  Like I said, I installed Feisty and just now suddenly it doesn't recognize it.  But Windows does and Edgy did.
[04:18] <jtt> TheCreationist, well sounds like feisty problem
[04:18] <jtt> TheCreationist, is edgy still on your machine
[04:18] <TheCreationist> jtt: I know :)
[04:18] <TheCreationist> jtt: No, it isn't.
[04:18] <jtt> TheCreationist, do you have edgy Live CD
[04:19] <TheCreationist> jtt: Well, it's all scratched up... that's what I was trying to burn.
[04:19] <TheCreationist> jtt: I have a whole bunch of Dapper cd's though
[04:19] <jtt> TheCreationist, thus the problem
[04:19] <jtt> TheCreationist, was the dvd seen in dapper
[04:20] <TheCreationist> jtt: I don't remember... I only used dapper for a couple days before going to Edgy
[04:20] <TheCreationist> and that was a long time ago
[04:21] <jtt> thec does the scratched edgy boot at all
[04:21] <jtt> TheCreationist, does the scratched edgy boot at all
[04:21] <theringmaster> any help for this problem???? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:21] <TheCreationist> jtt: Yes, but it can't install
[04:22] <rr72> https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems isnt loading :(
[04:22] <rr72> my hawking hwp54g pci wifi card isnt working after feisty upgrade, any ideas? uses rt2500 chipset, shows up in lsmod, modprobe loads module but still cant connect to network
[04:22] <jtt> TheCreationist, ok dont worry about install  just boot and sudo the command I gave you and see that the signature of the DVD is might help us find out more about it
[04:23] <TheCreationist> rr72: Yes, but that's a known problem ;)
[04:23] <rr72> hehe
[04:23] <jtt> TheCreationist, thus the answer and rr72 where is the answer or does it yet exist
[04:24] <rr72> is fiesty using all rt modules?
[04:24] <facugaich> My system tray icons are bigger than they should, anyone know how to fix this?
[04:27] <Rictoo> guys
[04:27] <Rictoo> what's the name of the file that contains all of the mounting information?
[04:27] <jtt> facugaich, i see pixel size in panel config menu mine is set at 48 pixels and are correct size
[04:27] <the_ringmaster> anyone have a solution for this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:28] <jtt> Rictoo, /etc/fstab
[04:28] <Rictoo> thanks <3
[04:29] <leafw> any ideas on how to retrieve relevant data from the logs, after rebooting a crashed laptop?
[04:29] <jtt> the_ringmaster, looks like no one is stepping up to the plate on that one
[04:29] <leafw> firefox + wireless made it freeze completely, and I had to power it down
[04:29] <facugaich> jtt, I just deleted the system tray and put it again, its fixed but know there are icons misiong :S
[04:30] <facugaich> missing*
[04:30] <jtt> facugaich, i would have deleted it  restart x server and see it they come back
[04:31] <jtt> facugaich, are u running nvida drivers
[04:31] <dhorn> Does anyone know how to change the text color on the kicker?
[04:32] <facugaich> jtt, nope open source ATI
[04:32] <jtt> facugaich, ok just wondered as there are a few issues what nvidia
[04:33] <jtt> facugaich, did you restart X Server
[04:33] <jtt> !kicker
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <facugaich> jtt, nope, will do
[04:34] <rr72> how do i get my wifi card working again in kubuntu? it worked in edgy, upgraded to feisty and doesnt work
[04:35] <uzip> hi
[04:35] <facugaich> jtt: they got big again :S
[04:36] <the_ringmaster> somebody? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417751
[04:36] <facugaich> jtt, don't you happen to know how to change the default resolution of the session manager (don't know if it's called that, where you put username and password)
[04:36] <jtt> facugaich, right mouse click somewhere in the blank area of the kicker and select panel configure
[04:37] <jtt> facugaich, configure panel, arrangements, see what size the pixels are
[04:37] <facugaich> jtt, 48
[04:38] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[04:39] <jtt> facugaich, that is what mine is and they are fine so I have run out of ideas, unless you want to reduce pixels say to 38 or 40 and see if there is a change
[04:39] <hybrid_2> I want to set VNC up on my account that's currently logged in on the console
[04:39] <hybrid_2> (remotely)
[04:39] <rr72> hybrid_2~ ever hear of X11 forwading?
[04:39] <hybrid_2> rr72: no I Havn't, could you please assist me, i'd really appreciate it
[04:39] <facugaich> jtt, it's ok, thank you anyway. how about my other question?
[04:40] <jtt> facugaich, what was the other question
[04:40] <facugaich> jtt, don't you happen to know how to change the default resolution of the session manager (don't know if it's called that, where you put username and password)
[04:40] <rr72> hybrid_2~ its X over ssh, u just need to forward it so then u can run firefix on command line remotely and it pops up a browser in ur local X server
[04:40] <rr72> i don't know what u want tho
[04:40] <the_ringmaster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:41] <jtt> facugaich, login screen  is it too large or too small
[04:43] <facugaich> jtt, none, it deafults to 1280x1024 and I want it in 1024x768, else it screws with my monitor
[04:43] <jtt> facugaich, hold on a sec
[04:43] <rr72> anyone know wifi modules inside and out?
[04:43] <the_ringmaster> any opera users out there
[04:45] <jtt> facugaich, once you login is the screen resol waht you want
[04:45] <facugaich> jtt, yep,
[04:46] <jtt> facugaich, i am not all that good w/X so no I cant answer your question
[04:46] <facugaich> jtt, no problem. Do you know something about beryl?
[04:47] <jtt> facugaich, no again have not used it but see a lot of talk about it here
[04:48] <ferger> my internet has been pretty slow ever since i installed a few days ago, do i need some drivers or something?
[04:51] <hybrid_2> rr72: can you explain a little bit more..
[04:51] <hybrid_2> rr72: I have ssh to the box right now
[04:51] <hybrid_2> rr72: VNC etc etc is all installed
[04:52] <hybrid_2> rr72: just need to know how to configure   it so i can login to the currently logged in user (console)
[04:52] <ferger> i installed kubuntu for the first time a few days ago and my interent has been really slow
[04:52] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Why won't K3b rip to mp3?
[04:52] <joel> hello everyone
[04:52] <rr72> Kr4t05~ mp3 cds are datra cds with mp3 as files
[04:53] <Kr4t05> rr72: ... This is an audio CD I'm ripping...
[04:53] <joel> My xserver doesn't want to start. What is the name of the app that helps you reconfig the xorg.conf file? Thanks
[04:53] <Kr4t05> I'm not your standard *ubuntu idiot, I know my way around.
[04:53] <hybrid_2> rr72: you around?
[04:54] <rr72> Kr4t05~ ubuntu doesnt come with that stuff as default
[04:54] <rr72> u need to get it
[04:54] <rr72> hybrid_2~ sorry, i am working on my own problems right now
[04:54] <Kr4t05> Oh... Good lord...
[04:54] <jtt> facugaich, look in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  looks like it has the login screen fonts
[04:54] <hybrid_2> rr72: when your free, could you let me know?
[04:55] <the_ringmaster> any help here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[04:55] <rr72> Kr4t05~ only reson i said that was that that happend to me, i was trying toi rip mp3s to a cd and didnt know it was data
[04:55] <rr72> hybrid_2~ really sorry but its getting late
[04:55] <joel> Can someone say joel so that I can see if I can get some type of notice when someone replys to me? thanks
[04:55] <rr72> no joel
[04:55] <jtt> joel, joel
[04:55] <joel> thanks
[04:56] <Kr4t05> rr72: I have lame, libxine, libk3b2-mp3, and most, If not all, other "grey-area" codecs installed...
[04:56] <rr72> hybrid_2~ sorry but i need to go to now
[04:56] <jtt> joel  execute  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <rr72> Kr4t05~ sorry have to go to bed now
[04:56] <rr72> night all
[04:56] <rr72> sorry that i can't help
[04:56] <the_ringmaster> quit telling people to do that
[04:57] <excitatory> what is the command the Storage Media panel applet uses to 'Safely Remove' a device?  it doesn't seem like just pumount, since i see a graphical progress bar pop up when i do it.. or is that just a feature of kubuntu?
[05:00] <the_ringmaster> can somebody reproduce this for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419215
[05:01] <flaccid> the_ringmaster: do not repeat please.
[05:06] <biodeath666> hello
[05:07] <jtt> !kops
[05:07] <biodeath666> is anyone around
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[05:07] <nixternal> jtt: ?
[05:08] <jtt> nixternal, just looking at list
[05:08] <nixternal> please don't abuse it, no need to look at the list, if you need to, msg the bot
[05:09] <jtt> nixternal, ok how do i msg the bot to see the list little new to irc
[05:09] <nixternal> /msg username blah
[05:09] <dasnipa> jtt, /msg ubotu
[05:09] <nixternal> don't know why you need to see the list though, unless you are planning on collecting a list
[05:09] <dasnipa> nixternal, watch out you are being stalked
[05:10] <jtt> nixternal, just curious what exactly does  ! k o p s  do anyhow
[05:10] <nixternal> it calls the channel operators in cases of an emergency
[05:11] <jtt> nixternal, ok my mistake i saw it done the other night and did not understand its implications will lay off
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> its a hit list ! :)
[05:11] <nixternal> haha
[05:12] <dennister> anyone have any prediction(s) as to when the rush might be over and the repos more reliable?
[05:12] <jtt> nixternal, thanks
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> dennister, they're pretty stable right now, at least for me
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> dennister, or at least the us ones are
[05:13] <dennister> well that's good to know...someone at ubuntu-ca was just complaining about another server being down up here
[05:13] <dennister> and i'd been hearing about server overloads for days ;)
[05:13] <Flonker> anybody having problems with firefox under feisty?
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, what exactly is the issue?
[05:14] <jtt> dennister, i cant get to   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[05:14] <Flonker> core dumps on me
[05:14] <Flonker> which is weird
[05:14] <Flonker> worked under edgy ok
[05:14] <Flonker> just finished up my feisty upgrade
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, core as in the kernel?
[05:15] <Flonker> core dump as in seg fault
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, ok, but that is weird
[05:15] <excitatory> what is the command the Storage Media panel applet uses to 'Safely Remove' a device?  it doesn't seem like just pumount, since i see a graphical progress bar pop up when i do it.. or is that just a feature of kubuntu?
[05:15] <Flonker> i know
[05:15] <dennister> jtt: if ur close to canada or the us, try the mirror at: http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, i would say remove and reinstall Firefox
[05:16] <jtt> dennister, thanks will do
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, failing that, run a mem test
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, its possible you have a dying ram chip, i always get that error anytime my ram dies on me
[05:17] <Flonker> i just bought this set
[05:17] <Flonker> not a month ago
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, ok, probably not that then
[05:18] <Flonker> what's the linux memtest utility?  command line
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, its an option under grub
[05:18] <Flonker> oh, ok
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> it boots into a seperate memtest kernel
[05:20] <Flonker> tryin to do a reinstall
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> ok, see if that helps
[05:20] <Flonker> did sudo apt-get clean
[05:20] <Flonker> then sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:20] <Flonker> we'll see if that does it
[05:21] <Alonea> how do you play a mp3 off of an external harddrive (its usb)? every program I have tried either locks up or doesn't play the song at all.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Flonker, if that doesn't work, id say backup your bookmarks and apt-get purge it
[05:21] <Flonker> 'k
[05:21] <yoshi> anyone using a Linksys WRT54GP2?
[05:22] <Flonker> looks like that might have done it, willy
[05:23] <Flonker> it's updating my addons now
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> yoshi: I'm using one, I think
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> ok, good
[05:23] <yoshi> purpleposeidon: did yours come with a vonage lock?
[05:24] <Flonker> thanxx dood, musta just saved the deb off to a rough spot on the disc
[05:24] <purpleposeidon> yoshi: the model is close, it's the same, -P2, and no.
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> yeah, probably got corrupted during download actually
[05:25] <Alonea> ok, actually, it wont play ANY music file. just tried one from my normal hdd
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, do you have read/write access on it for your normal acct?
[05:26] <twins01> hai everyone
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm
[05:27] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: umm. i guess. I can move, delete, etc. files to it. I just tried an mp3 from my /home/alonea folder and amarok wont play it either? Did something get deleted or is no longer functional when I upgraded to fiesty
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, make sure that you have mp3 support setup
[05:28] <ses1959_> i have a ntfs drive on a usb connection and it shows up when turned on but when i click open it does nothing
[05:28] <ses1959_> i tried to mount and have ng-3 installed
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 | Alonea
[05:28] <ubotu> Alonea: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <jermain> ses1959 i have the same problem
[05:28] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: how do I do that again? everything use to be fine before I upgraded. (i did upgrade, not install from cd)
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> ubotu has the link
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about has the link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, or just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> that's a meta package that keeps support for all that updated
[05:29] <ses1959_> jermain ok tried all i could find on wiki and web but no help
[05:30] <ses1959_> windows can see it fine
[05:30] <jermain> ses1959_ you have to mount it
[05:30] <jermain> i just dont know how :/
[05:30] <ses1959_> have tired
[05:30] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, I will try that...I wonder what else isn't working any more after the upgrade that I have to fix
[05:30] <ses1959_> how do i mount
[05:31] <jermain> i know how to do it for a cd rom but
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, possibly flash and dvd playback
[05:31] <ses1959_> i used sudo sdb1 with codes but did not mount
[05:31] <jermain> i dunno how to mount anything else
[05:31] <jermain> :(
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> ses1959_, sudo mount <device> <mountpoint>
[05:32] <jermain> my ext hd appears
[05:32] <jermain> !
[05:32] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, though I don't watch dvds on here...actually, I don't think I ever got it to play dvds. its the rare occasion anyways. what do you use to rip cds to mp3s on here?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> feisty has pretty good automount support
[05:32] <jermain> thanks hitmanWilly
[05:32] <ses1959_> using feisty and install the ntfs file from adept manager
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, about 20 different apps:) i think amarok will do it
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> i use sound juicer myself
[05:33] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: really? I tried that KAudioCreator a couple times and could not get it to work
[05:34] <ses1959_> when using konqueror get window to pick program to use but could not one to work
[05:34] <ses1959_> used find file
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, it a gnome app but seems to work the best for me (pkg sound-juicer)
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, actually, k3b might be able to do it too
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, yes, k3b will rip cds
[05:36] <loomer> morgen
[05:36] <loomer> jemand da, der deutsch spricht und mir 1-2 fragen beantworten kann?
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> !de | loomer
[05:37] <ubotu> loomer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:37] <loomer> thx
[05:37] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok. will have to try that sometime.
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, yes, ripping right now :)
[05:44] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, I still can't get it to play music...I have libxine1-ffmpeg and all the mplayer binary codecs. and I did that one thing you told me. what is missing?
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, hmm, nothing plays?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, that may be an alsa issue
[05:45] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nothing. and its mp3s. I have tried in beep media player, kaffiene, and amarok.
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, do you get any sound at all?
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, from anything?
[05:46] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: yeah, I get sound. the startup music. its just when players try to play the music, they lock up. the progress bar never moves
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try adjusting the settings to force the players to use alsa
[05:48] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: under Xine or movieplayer?
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, in amarok its under engine in configure
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, setup output plugin to alsa
[05:50] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope. doesn't help.
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try different output plugin settings and see if any of them work
[05:51] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok. don't think it will help though. but will try.
[05:51] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:51] <hybrid_2> I want to set VNC up on my account that's currently logged in on the console
[05:51] <hybrid_2> (remotely)
[05:52] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: hey, would this have anything to do with anything? A lot of times the crash handler thing says "artsd" crashes. i dunno what that is
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> artsd is the kde sound daemon iirc
[05:53] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: what does iirc mean?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, it actually crashes when you try to play mp3's?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> iirc = if i remember correctly
[05:54] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: no, when I startup my computer I think the artsd comes up. Now, when I play a mp3, the program locks up and I have to terminate it.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try disabling the kde system sounds, should be under system settings, sounds
[05:55] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: and its in every progrogram
[05:55] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, the sound daemon may be causing a conflict
[05:56] <apus> how do I make it so that when the system boots it runs a command
[05:57] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: wont unchecking the "enable the sound system" disable all sound?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, no, just the kde system sounds, the actual sound module is loaded at kernel level
[05:57] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, media player programs access that
[05:58] <dthacker> HymnToLife:
[05:58] <dthacker> argh
[05:58] <dthacker> hybrid_2: do you have a question?
[05:59] <surgy> can someone help me install my nvidia video card driver on feisty, i read what ubotu had to say, but i cant seam to figure out the feisty instructions, will someone help me please?
[05:59] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope.
[05:59] <Toyd> hitmanWilly, :)
[06:00] <dthacker> apus: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> Toyd, ?
[06:00] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: though its doing better. the progress bar moves a bit, stops, then jumps up a few seconds, but no sound.
[06:00] <surgy> hitmanWilly: hi
[06:00] <hybrid_2> dthacker: yes, I am logged into a a PC through console at home, VNC is setup but not configured for that user.. I want to be able to connect to that user and view that console session
[06:01] <ses1959_> jermain found good web site about mounting usb hard drive
[06:01] <ses1959_> http://www.smorgasbord.net/book/export/html/195
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, well, im not sure what the issue is then
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> surgy: hello
[06:01] <ses1959_> i got my hd to mount but have a permission problem now
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, sounds like an alsa problem maybe
[06:02] <dthacker> hybrid_2: having never played with VNC, I would imagine you sudo to root on the target machine, configure the user you wish to view, and then back out an connect to that user
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> !alsa
[06:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:02] <surgy> hitmanWilly: mind helping me again brother?
[06:02] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: i usually use oss
[06:02] <ses1959_> it is now showing on media list but to click it I do not have permission
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, i don't think feisty has actuall oss, i belive its emulated thru alsa
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> surgy: whats up
[06:03] <ses1959_> i used the chmod 777 on the file but still have a permission error
[06:03] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ah, ok, it says there ensure "arts" is running? and artsd keeps crashing, so I assume its related/
[06:03] <surgy> hitmanWilly: "<surgy> can someone help me install my nvidia video card driver on feisty, i read what ubotu had to say, but i cant seam to figure out the feisty instructions, will someone help me please?"
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, arts was crashing? sorry, missed that, yeah, that's the problem right there
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy: sorry missed it
[06:04] <ses1959_> can i run a chmod on sdb1 that is the drive that is now mounted?
[06:04] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, when I click on  "test sound" I don't hear anything
[06:04] <surgy> hitmanWilly: np can you assist me?
[06:04] <jtt> ses1959_, yes you can
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy, use nvidia on feisty, so yes :)
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy, what exactly is the issue?
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> surgy, or where in the install are you having problems?
[06:05] <surgy> hitmanWilly: i cant find those entrys in my kmenu
[06:05] <apus> how do I add a script to execute when i login
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> surgy, the best way to do it is from the cmd line
[06:06] <dthacker> apus: did you see the link I sent you?
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: look at the tutorial at the feisty instructions, i cannot seam to find those entrys in my kmenu
[06:06] <apus> dthacker I got disconnected
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: the old way from edgy then?
[06:06] <_ron> Hello, How can I change a "always do this action" selection?
[06:06] <dthacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> surgy, should still work
[06:06] <dthacker> apus:^^^^^^
[06:06] <mrdlouisd> is gzip as reliable as rar in compression?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> surgy, i didn't even know there was a special way to do it for feisty
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: its the "should" that scares me, you know what it took for me to get feisty up.
[06:06] <Scott_> quick question to the group - how do you upgrade from dapper straight to feisty? ...somewhere i wasnt paying attention when edgy came out apparently...
[06:07] <surgy> hitmanWilly: you should check the tut
[06:07] <dthacker> apus: halfway down the page it discusses adding bootup scripts
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> surgy, i used the cmd line w/ no problems
[06:07] <surgy> !nvidia | hitmanWilly
[06:07] <ubotu> hitmanWilly: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ the only way to do that is to reinstall if the root is on a seperate partition
[06:07] <mrdlouisd> !cmds
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cmds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <mrdlouisd> !list
[06:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ otherwise, you are going to have to update to edgy, then feisty.
[06:07] <Scott_> thanks _ron
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ no problem :)
[06:08] <_ron> Can anyone help me with my default action problem?
[06:08] <Scott_> kinda thought that would be the route, but thats ok... Im totally new to linux (ok off and on) and kubuntu just locked it in for me...
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> surgy, ok, do NOT use that automated tool, all it does is try to pick the right driver for your card
[06:08] <Scott_> well, and Vista locked in it for me too... ;)
[06:08] <_ron> scott_ it is not that bad, I actually just did it myself from breezy to feisty (for my father in law)
[06:08] <dsmith_> !ubotu
[06:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:09] <_ron> scott_ vista... lol
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> surgy, the instructions were written for gnome anyway
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: ahhh, thank you
[06:09] <Alonea> !arts
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <dthacker> _ron: is this on a menu?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> !artsd
[06:09] <theshadow> Alright, in Feisty I accidently removed my task back and now I don't know how to get it back all I can find is an "External Task Bar" can anyone give me a hand?
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: i forgot that pos os still exsisted
[06:09] <apus> dthacker got it
[06:09] <dsmith_> !vista
[06:09] <_ron> dthacker: is what on a menu?
[06:09] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: well pos windows manager anyways
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:09] <apus> can someone explain chmod 777 doesn't that corespond to rwr-rwx-rwx
[06:10] <Scott_> badvista.org lol...have to see this...
[06:10] <dthacker> _ron: default action?
[06:10] <flaccid> chmod is read, write and execute for all users -rwxrwxrwx
[06:10] <_ron> dthacker: OH lol... I accidentally selected the wrong action when I plug in a camera, and I want to change it now. Any ideas?
[06:10] <apus> so, isn't that unsafe?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> surgy: what model card are you running, or at least what driver version did you use on edgy?
[06:10] <surgy> hitmanWilly: ok i got the I386 version of feisty, that means i need linux-restricted-module-386 correct?
[06:11] <surgy> hitmanWilly: glx
[06:11] <flaccid> apus: it is unsafe for some files
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> surgy, just apt-get install nvidia-glx and it will get all the neccessary depends
[06:11] <flaccid> obviously
[06:11] <flaccid> but totally safe if that was the intention. eg. to share a file to all users
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> ie restricted modules etc
[06:12] <apus> flaccid, but if its a script run at boot, 777 means anyone could edit it
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> surgy or should anyway
[06:12] <dthacker> _ron: hmmm, somewhere in systems settings, but my laptop is down atm and I'm stuck on a SuSE box.
[06:12] <surgy> hitmanWilly: no it wont, or at least it didnt last time, i struggled for weeks on end with crashing xserver till i figured out i didnt have the correct module
[06:12] <dsmith_> Mark Shuttleworth & Ubuntu, for those that want to check this out...  Brief interview with Mark Shuttleworth, founder of the Ubuntu Foundation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke-kel9zOFo
[06:12] <apus> its root-user-usergroup right?
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: thats correct. 777 anyone can write to it
[06:12] <apus> to thats unsafe if anyone can edit a file that is executed at boot
[06:12] <dthacker> _ron: hang out for 5 min while I boot?
[06:12] <flaccid> ower|group|world
[06:12] <_ron> dthacker: sure, thanks!
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: yes
[06:12] <surgy> hitmanWilly: but then again i have been plagued by the strangest of problems
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: google unix permissions and start learning.
[06:13] <_ron> dthacker: default applications maybe/
[06:13] <surgy> brb
[06:13] <apus> well, if I want something to execute at startup, and I link the script in the crontab, what permissions should the script have
[06:13] <Alonea> does anyone know anything about artsd crashing on startup after fiesty upgrade? I am unable to play music without programs locking up.
[06:13] <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:14] <_ron> what is the command to change my default browser in konsole?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> surgy, ok, its linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:14] <apus> its just to run a command at start up
[06:16] <hybrid_2> dthacker: yes, I am logged into a a PC through console at home, VNC is setup but not configured for that user.. I want to be able to connect to that user and view that console session
[06:16] <hybrid_2> can someone assist?
[06:16] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[06:17] <AbortD> when u upgrade in terminal it doesnt auto reboot?
[06:17] <MuJ> it's not windows you know
[06:17] <_ron> Can anyone give me the terminal command to select the default web browser?
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> AbortD, no, i don't think so, but the only time you really need to is after a kernel upgrade
[06:18] <flaccid> apus: like i said: [14:13]  <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> everything else is handled on the fly
[06:19] <apus> flaccid: I told you what it was, its a script to run a command
[06:19] <dthacker> _ron: don't see a setting to change, still digging
[06:20] <jtt> apus he is asking what command?
[06:20] <_ron> dthacker: thanks
[06:20] <MuJ> _ron: for firefox you'd do: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[06:20] <apus> what does it matteR? if its 777 anyone could change it to anything they wanted
[06:21] <apus> thats why its unsafe
[06:21] <dthacker> _ron: oh joy, I found google ref on how to do it in gnome.....
[06:21] <jtt> apus that is why he asked?
[06:21] <flaccid> apus: like i said: [14:13]  <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:21] <apus> what?
[06:21] <flaccid> it would help i you told me what sort of command it is
[06:22] <apus> why does the command matter? its automatically executed at start, so if its 777 any user could change it
[06:22] <apus> and then when its executed it could mess things up
[06:22] <flaccid> its about access
[06:22] <flaccid> and ownership
[06:22] <_ron> Muj: I found it, but thank you so much.
[06:22] <flaccid> who needs access to it
[06:22] <flaccid> if anyone etc.
[06:22] <flaccid> you really should learn before you make assumptions..
[06:23] <apus> crontab needs access
[06:23] <flaccid> wtf is it for apus
[06:23] <hybrid_2> can someone tell me how I can access my console session via VNC? I am not at the console, but have SSH access.
[06:23] <flaccid> we don't even know who should own the file because you wan't say what it is for
[06:23] <apus> jesus, the command it "imwheel"
[06:23] <apus> and its linked to by crontab
[06:23] <dthacker> _ron: Look at KDE components under System Settings
[06:23] <apus> so it starts at boot
[06:24] <apus> I just need to know what chmod level it needs to be so when the system boots, it will execute
[06:24] <flaccid> what is imwheel, what does it do and what does it need access to ?
[06:24] <flaccid> apus: you really don't understand do you
[06:24] <apus> flaccid, quit treating me like an idiot
[06:24] <flaccid> i will until you answer the question i need to know
[06:24] <apus> imwheel is a command, that when I typed in console, with no sudo or anything, does what its supsose to do
[06:24] <dthacker> _ron: that will get you default apps, still looking for camera question
[06:24] <flaccid> otherwise i cannot answer your question
[06:24] <apus> all im trying to do it make it so the command runs each boot
[06:24] <flaccid> apus: and what does the command actually do
[06:24] <apus> so I made a script like somsone said, and linked to it with crontab
[06:25] <apus> its a program
[06:25] <apus> google it
[06:25] <flaccid> no im asking you
[06:25] <apus> the command doens't  need access
[06:25] <apus> why?
[06:25] <flaccid> im sick of this
[06:25] <apus> do you even know my question flaccid?
[06:25] <Alonea> anyone know how to access the crash handler thing? does it have a history/log of previous crashes?
[06:25] <apus> your sick of this? you keep calling me an idiot
[06:25] <flaccid> i do but your're an idiot and won't answer my question, so i can't really help
[06:26] <apus> the likes of you dont need to be here, and if you know my question, repeat it for me
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> apus, does imwheel need access to the hdd, cause the hdd is mounted ro until a certain point in the boot process
[06:26] <apus> hitmanwilly, I dont know, I dont know the interworkings of the program
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> apus, that may be the problem right there
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> How can I find Real Player in the repositories?
[06:27] <apus> look, an hour ago I asked someon "how do I make a command execute each login
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> !real player
[06:27] <jtt> hitmanWilly, looks like imwheel starts after x is running
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <apus> he said, make a script, and link to it with crontab
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> !realplayer
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> .xinitrc then ?
[06:27] <flaccid> apus: its pretty easy. answer what the program does and we can advise suitable permissions.
[06:27] <apus> so I did, and now im asking what chmod level it needs, because in tuts people keep chmoding files 777 but that seems stupid and unsafe
[06:28] <jtt> hitmanWilly, dont know just answering your query as to when it needs access etc.
[06:28] <flaccid> apus: you did not say what imwheel actually does
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> jtt, ok cool
[06:28] <apus> flaccid, its a very common program, google it, apparently I dont know enough
[06:28] <apus> its a mouse thing
[06:28] <apus> my questio has nothing to do with that
[06:28] <flaccid> i don't want to google it, i'm asking you. if you want your answer, then you'll need to answer mine
[06:28] <jtt> jtt  imwheel   Program to support non-standard buttons on new mice.
[06:28] <apus> my question, is what level does an executable need to be for crontab to be able to execute it
[06:28] <flaccid> it has everything to do with that.
[06:29] <flaccid> it needs only +x and read to that user.
[06:29] <apus> what user?
[06:29] <flaccid> the user that is calling the binary
[06:29] <apus> no user!?
[06:29] <apus> CRONTAB OMG
[06:29] <flaccid> you havnt even told me which user is running it
[06:30] <apus> ive said that over and over
[06:30] <flaccid> don't shout!
[06:30] <flaccid> you can get crontab to go under any user...
[06:30] <apus> the automatic at boot sort of thing
[06:31] <flaccid> like i said it can be run under any user, not just cron
[06:31] <apus> cron?
[06:31] <apus> alright flaccid, lets start over
[06:32] <apus> as it stands, once I get into KDE I need to run "imwheel" from terminal
[06:32] <apus> I dont want to do that, I want it automatic, what should I do?
[06:32] <flaccid> what is imwheel and what access does it require?
[06:32] <Kevlar_Soul> How does one install a .bin file?
[06:32] <flaccid> ok
[06:32] <flaccid> !autostart
[06:32] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:32] <apus> whatever access it has without sudo from terminal after im loged in
[06:32] <Kevlar_Soul> I need to install RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:32] <_ron> kevlar_soul: make sure you have permissions, then ./ it
[06:32] <flaccid> apus: simply use autostart. that is the most appropriate. cron is not what you want for this.
[06:32] <Kevlar_Soul> ./?
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> apus, link it in ~/.kde/Autosart
[06:32] <apus> wow, so I asked this question an hour ago
[06:33] <dthacker> _ron: I'd file a doc bug on this, I don't see it anywhere.
[06:33] <flaccid> apus: don't complain. just do whats required...
[06:33] <apus> flaccid, work on your attitdue
[06:33] <flaccid> apus: stfu. start showing respect to the people that help you!!
[06:33] <kalorin> Kevlar_Soul: you can likely just bash it
[06:33] <apus> flaccid, calling someone who is ignorant an idiot is imature
[06:33] <Kevlar_Soul> sudo bash RealPlayer10GOLD.bin ?
[06:33] <_ron> Kevlar_Soul chmod +x /path/run.bin
[06:33] <dthacker> Code of Conduct, please
[06:33] <flaccid> apus: i've helped you many times and you always act like an idiot
[06:34] <kalorin> Kevlar_Soul: yeah that'll likely work
[06:34] <_ron> Kevlar_Soul then ./realplayer10gold.bin
[06:34] <jtt> dthacker, thanks we needed that
[06:34] <kalorin> Kevlar_Soul: it's likely a shell script with a tar file embedded in it
[06:34] <apus> flaccid: so because Im new to linux im an idiot?
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, you have to preface the file with ./
[06:34] <Kevlar_Soul> okay let me try
[06:34] <flaccid> no because you don't listen to what im' asking and saying makes you the idiot. has nothing to do with being new to linux.
[06:34] <apus> hitmanwilly, from your experience (as you have helped me also) am I an idiot?
[06:34] <apus> flaccid, my question was isn't 777 unsafe, because anyone could write to it
[06:34] <kalorin> apus flaccid's just like that, he's cranky often but he's fairly smart
[06:34] <apus> and you asked "what command"
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> im not touching this one with a twenty foot pole...
[06:35] <kalorin> aw come on, you're a hitman!
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:35] <kalorin> no fear, no mercy
[06:35] <kalorin> heh
[06:35] <apus> flaccid, it doesn't matter what command Is in the script, because with 777 they could overwrite it with anything, then execute it, and I was asking is that true, therefore unsafe
[06:35] <flaccid> apus: i advised that it is unsafe.  and which command is important. you don't want to give arbitary perms..
[06:35] <apus> flaccid: and then you call me an idiot
[06:35] <flaccid> apus: can you move or
[06:35] <_ron> dthacker thanks for your help
[06:35] <flaccid> or do you want to argue for another half hour?
[06:35] <jtt> gentelmen  let move on and let this drop it set a bad precident
[06:36] <flaccid> i helped you. so appreciate that and move on.
[06:36] <dthacker> _ron, sorry I wasn't more.  Please file a doc bug on Launchpad
[06:36] <apus> flaccid: I want you to admit you completely misunderstood my question, then called me an idiot when I said the command didn't matter, you give any file 777 (as far as I understand) and it doesn't matter what is in it because anyone can make it anything they want
[06:36] <flaccid> running imwheel on cron on boot won't work because its an X program. so it was imporant that i asked you those questions!!!
[06:36] <jtt> apus please drop it
[06:36] <flaccid> apus: i'll admit that you are wrong. now leave me the fuck alone.
[06:36] <apus> jtt: hes the one calling people trying to convert to kubuntu an idiot
[06:36] <kalorin> apus, in all fairness, it's hard as hell to follow things on this channel with 8 or 10 conversations going on at a time
[06:37] <_ron> dthacker How do I do that/
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, i will agree to that
[06:37] <apus> well can at least someone reafirm that giving  a file 777 is unsafe, regardless of whats in it?
[06:37] <apus> or is that wrong?
[06:37] <jtt> apus, i am not taking sides, i am just asking both to stop
[06:37] <kalorin> he's a bit crusty, but he's here trying to help folks for nothing
[06:37] <kalorin> it's not worth it
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> apus, not necessarily, but usually, yes
[06:37] <jtt> apus, yes it is quite unsafe
[06:38] <flaccid> apus:  things are not black and white
[06:38] <kalorin> temp space is generally set so that anyone can write to it
[06:38] <kalorin> symlinks obviously
[06:38] <kalorin> there's several things that get 777 and that's just how it is
[06:38] <apus> so if you go read what I said at 23:21 you will see I said that exact thing, and he immediately started calling me an idiot, saying I dind't understand permissions
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> for example, a jpeg could be set to that more or less safely
[06:39] <flaccid> for example you might wanna give 777 on a public ftp or shared folder. but you wont want to give 777 to a process that only requires 755
[06:39] <kalorin> text files
[06:39] <kalorin> or a shell script that gets called by another user
[06:39] <kalorin> that's inviting trouble
[06:39] <apus> kalorin: so what stops them from making it a script file and executing it?
[06:39] <flaccid> apus: stfu and move on already.
[06:39] <dthacker> _ron: log into launchpad (may need to set up account), hit the big bug icon, and then tell them what you want to do, and that you could not locate docs for it in kubuntu docs
[06:39] <apus> flaccid: your just angry im right
[06:39] <kalorin> from making a jpg a shell script?
[06:39] <apus> kalorin a text script
[06:39] <abortd> i updated to feisty and now i cant load it under the new kernel
[06:39] <apus> kalorin text file*
[06:39] <abortd> i have to use the one in edgy
[06:40] <abortd> can someone help me?
[06:40] <flaccid> apus: no i believe in progress
[06:40] <kalorin> doesn't matter if they do, what matters is who runs it
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, true on that...actually never thought about it
[06:40] <jtt> abortd, boot in recovery mode see where it stops
[06:40] <Kevlar_Soul> how do I list folders in terminal?
[06:40] <vbgunz> Kevlar_Soul: ls
[06:40] <abortd> see where it stops?
[06:40] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: ls
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ls
[06:40] <kalorin> really it's all about who executes the thing, not the permissions on it
[06:40] <Kevlar_Soul> I type ls I get nothing
[06:40] <abortd> i try to boot and it doesnt even load
[06:40] <apus> obviously they cant script commands that need sudo, but they could execute a script from a text file
[06:40] <abortd> the bar stays at 1%
[06:41] <Kevlar_Soul> ahhh because Im in root
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, what directory are you in ?
[06:41] <Kevlar_Soul> sorry
[06:41] <kalorin> apus, why couldn't they?
[06:41] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: sudo ls -l
[06:41] <apus> they would need the password?
[06:41] <jtt> abortd, you mean from the grub menu it wont even start
[06:41] <abortd> yeah
[06:41] <abortd> but .17 will
[06:41] <abortd> .20 wont
[06:41] <kalorin> I could script up a nice command to format your drive or wget a keylogger down and install and start it
[06:41] <Phalure> in feisty's kde3.5.6's kcontrol, my "use antialiasing for fonts" checkbox has three states instead of just two! checked, unchecked, and greyed out check. what does the third state mean? (greyed out check)
[06:41] <apus> so that means any 777 is unsafe
[06:41] <abortd> from the ubuntu sign
[06:41] <abortd> it wont start
[06:41] <kalorin> all that would take root, and all that is scriptable, it just wouldn't work unless someone with root priviledges did it
[06:42] <jtt> abortd, ok get to grub menu, highlight recover for that kernel and hit ENTER
[06:42] <kalorin> apus, i would say it is for a file
[06:42] <jtt> abortd, what happens
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, the keylogger maybe, but the drive reformat would need root permissions
[06:42] <flaccid> apus: 777 is totally safe if you want to give full access to everyone.
[06:42] <Eternalz> Question for pro, i have no sound in kubuntu and i dont know where the problem is, could anyone help me :/
[06:42] <abortd> alright after these updates are done
[06:42] <abortd> im on the pc i will have to leave and come back
[06:42] <apus> what prevents them from making a script and executing it
[06:42] <kalorin> but I would also say that there are some places you want it like symlinks and directories for public access
[06:42] <apus> there are some commands that dont need root access that I dont want people running on my system
[06:42] <kalorin> do an ls -al on /tmp for instance
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, and if you're sudoing a .jpg, something is seriously wrong with you :)
[06:42] <kalorin> k
[06:42] <dthacker> ubotu: !sound
[06:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <kalorin> so change them to where root owns them and root is the only one that can execute them
[06:43] <Eternalz> Question for pro, i have no sound in kubuntu and i dont know where the problem is, could anyone help me :/
[06:43] <kalorin> and remove the users from the sudoers list
[06:43] <apus> anyways
[06:43] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: I could format your drive with a command if you ran it with sudo or were root
[06:43] <dthacker> ubotu: ! sound | Eternalz
[06:43] <ubotu> Eternalz: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <apus> !autostart
[06:43] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:43] <kalorin> I'll even occasionally sudo su -
[06:43] <kalorin> and be root
[06:43] <Kevlar_Soul> Okay I found the Bin file in terminal
[06:43] <kalorin> BECAUSE I CAN!
[06:43] <kalorin> :)
[06:43] <Kevlar_Soul> now I just type realplayer10gold.bin
[06:44] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[06:44] <Cable86> that bot is crazy, i dont get how it just got that
[06:44] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: ./first
[06:44] <kalorin> no type ./<name of file>
[06:44] <dthacker> ./your_command.bin
[06:44] <kalorin> cause it's unlikely that file is in your path or set executable
[06:44] <dthacker> what kalorin said ^^^^^
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, but like i said, one wouldn't give root access to a jpg or simple text file, unless they had no idea what they were doing or were on crack
[06:44] <kalorin> ( I'm not all fun and games, sometimes I know something )
[06:45] <dthacker> :)
[06:45] <apus> so how come a link to a command that takes almost no time to run, sits there for 10 seconds starting it
[06:45] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: sure, I'd agree with that, but there are a LOT of crack addicts
[06:45] <kalorin> :)
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[06:45] <kalorin> apus, depends what it's doing
[06:45] <underdog5004> which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> they use windows tho
[06:45] <kalorin> could it be starting a JVM?
[06:45] <aktep> hi all. anybody know how to i must install ATI Radeon x600 driver on feisty kubuntu? I try some FAQs and have no result. Default driver not work
[06:46] <apus> I just made a link to imwheel
[06:46] <kalorin> has to allocate memory, set up the virtual machine, do all the security stuff, then get around to loading dependency classes and then start your program
[06:46] <apus> and the way it does it as of now is unacceptable
[06:46] <flaccid> apus: do you want help with that?
[06:46] <kalorin> what's imwheel?
[06:46] <kalorin> eh?
[06:46] <kalorin> symlinks are always 777
[06:46] <kalorin> nothing wrong with that
[06:46] <apus> flaccid: can you be civil? or is ignorance too much for you
[06:46] <Alonea> ok, artsd crashes on startup and so far this is the error reports I have been able to find. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17165/  &  http://www.pastebin.ca/453714
[06:46] <apus> imwheel is a little program that lets multi button mouse work
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: i am civil. im also not ignorant which is why i know the answers.
[06:47] <kalorin> how many multi buttons?
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> malum@Kevlar:~/Desktop$ ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: Permission denied
[06:47] <apus> flaccid: but can you tollerate those that are ignorant?
[06:47] <kalorin> I have left, right, wheel in the middle that's a button too
[06:47] <Jack131> how do i search for a running process in console?
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Permission Denied?
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: some, but not you.
[06:47] <apus> kalorin: I have 5 other buttons thats why I use it
[06:47] <underdog5004> Jack131, top | grep process-name
[06:47] <kalorin> Kevlar_Soul: sudo bash ./RealLame10Copper.bin
[06:47] <Jack131> thx
[06:47] <apus> flaccid: then no
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: i'll help you because i'm a nice guy. you need to go to advanced and run in terminal if its a cli binary.
[06:47] <kalorin> ( I hate real)
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> kalorin:  lol thanks
[06:48] <Kevlar_Soul> Everything else wont play real media
[06:48] <flaccid> apus: too late apus, you friggen tool
[06:48] <kalorin> apus, cool, I have one of those at work I'm going to want to use next week :)
[06:48] <underdog5004> which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> !find artsd
[06:48] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.8-artsd
[06:48] <apus> kalorin: you will need to modify your xorg file and stuff hang on Ill get a link
[06:48] <Jack131> underdog5006 that just make the cursor move down to a blank area, like its not doing anythign
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try reinstalling gstreamer0.8-artsd
[06:49] <underdog5004> Jack131, which process are you looking for?
[06:49] <Kevlar_Soul> :~/Desktop$ sudo bash ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:49] <Kevlar_Soul> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:49] <kalorin> apus, email it to kalorin@kalorin.com
[06:49] <kalorin> :)
[06:49] <kalorin> ( I'm too tired to remember or bother to sort out where it goes and stuff )
[06:50] <Jack131> underdog5004, adept manager
[06:50] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: its not even installed. no gstream is installed.
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, ok, the bot search dumped a lame result then
[06:50] <underdog5004> Jack131, try searching for adept, apt, or adept-manager
[06:51] <jtt> 777 is going to bed, i hope i have sleep permissions,  nite all be nice!
[06:51] <kalorin> kewel thanks
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, but the artsd daemon might be corrupted somehow
[06:51] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: hmm, I can install it and see what happens
[06:51] <walla> could anyone give my a hand with getting my sansa player to mount?
[06:52] <Rictoo> I see all these packages that mention "X window root"
[06:52] <Rictoo> What's that mean?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, thats for non gnome/kde wms (ie blackbox) usually
[06:53] <Rictoo> hmm
[06:53] <Rictoo> does that mean like Terminal (Konsole)? :S
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, no
[06:53] <Rictoo> pests such as roaches hide under your X windows (xroach clone)
[06:53] <Rictoo> Like the classic program xroach, this program makes pests appear in your X window root who then quickly scramble to hide beneath your windows.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, they may still work in it tho
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, that just means they run in any x environment, more or less
[06:55] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: guess what! Installing that gstreamer thing worked!
[06:55] <Jack131> is there a task manager in kubuntu?
[06:55] <Jack131> like ctrl/alt/del
[06:56] <flaccid> !info ksysguard
[06:56] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 (feisty), package size 508 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[06:56] <flaccid> usually ctrl + escape
[06:56] <Jack131>  thx
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, wow...that may have been the issue right there, ie not available
[06:56] <flaccid> np
[06:56] <underdog5004> Which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:56] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: that is so screwy...
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, i usually reccomend backup then clean install
[06:56] <kalorin> underdog5004: use the FM method... friggin Magic! :)
[06:57] <kalorin> no idea
[06:57] <underdog5004> ah, thank you, hitmanWilly
[06:57] <kalorin> I'm staying with 6.10 for a while
[06:57] <underdog5004> kalorin, why?
[06:57] <Rictoo> I'm bored, what's a good game I can apt-get?
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, or it may just have reconfigure some arts settings for you, not really too good with sound stuff
[06:57] <underdog5004> Rictoo, sudo apt-get install supertux
[06:57] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: thats not an upgrade.
[06:57] <Jack131> wtf
[06:57] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: well, as long as it works, I am happy.
[06:57] <Jack131> ive checked thru the process, there is no adept running
[06:57] <Jack131> yet automatix claims it is and i ned to close it
[06:58] <underdog5004> Jack131, sudo apt-get udate
[06:58] <underdog5004> Jack131, sudo apt-get update
[06:58] <flaccid> !upgrade
[06:58] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:58] <underdog5004> it should say that there is a lock file...
[06:58] <underdog5004> if you are sure you don't have anything running, rm /path/to/lock/file
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, im just trying to figure out WHY it worked, sorry :)
[06:59] <flaccid> !kubuntu-upgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <abortd> !ntp
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <flaccid> !find upgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> Found: unattended-upgrades, update-notifier, upgrade-system
[06:59] <flaccid> hmm
[06:59] <abortd> whats ntp.conf?
[06:59] <flaccid> !info ntp
[06:59] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 319 kB, installed size 856 kB
[06:59] <flaccid> network time protocol configuration, abortd
[06:59] <Kevlar_Soul> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:59] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[06:59] <abortd> jshould i let adept update it?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, sudo it
[07:00] <flaccid> abortd: no
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> :~/Desktop$ sudo bash ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> I did that
[07:00] <bill_k> eeeeew realplayer
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> sudo bash
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, actually chmod +x the file then run it
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ie sudo chmod +x <name of bin file>
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then just run it by itself ie sudo ./<name of bin file>
[07:02] <Kevlar_Soul> Nice
[07:02] <Jack131> underdog5004, the only error i gget is a 503 on one of the sources
[07:02] <mcanedo> hi anyone of fasty knows when 3v1n0 repos will be available?????
[07:02] <underdog5004> Jack131, weird...I don't know then, sorry
[07:02] <kalorin> I bash things cause I don't care if they're executeable
[07:02] <Kevlar_Soul>  You must specify the full pathname of the directory and have write privileges to the chosen directory.
[07:02] <kalorin> i wrote an entire automation framework that runs around informatica at work that we use, I make everyone bash all the commands
[07:02] <Jack131> :\
[07:02] <kalorin> and I named them cutesy names like brain.sh and skull.sh
[07:03] <kalorin> skull of course being a wrapper script for the brain script
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> Which Directory Should I Chose?
[07:03] <kalorin> both of which you bash :)
[07:03] <kalorin> keeps me entertained
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, where did you download this too, your home folder
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> My desktop
[07:03] <flaccid> time for lunch
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> Directory:  [/home/malum/Desktop/RealPlayer] :
[07:03] <flaccid> bbl
[07:03] <kalorin> see ya
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, right click it, go to permissions, click allow execute file as a program
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, that will chmod it
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then run it as discussed before
[07:04] <Kevlar_Soul> okay and it will automatically choose a directory?
[07:05] <kalorin> yeah it's just likely not an shell script
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, run it as sudo, and yes, it SHOULD put everything in the right places
[07:05] <kalorin> never can tell with those .bin files
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> How do I cancel the installation
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> Its asking me for the directory now
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> TO restart
[07:05] <kalorin> the ati drivers for instance are in fact a shell script wtih an embedded .tar file in them
[07:06] <kalorin> kind of neat
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, try ctrl-c to cancel
[07:06] <tmbg> guess not
[07:06] <kalorin> kevlar, close the window
[07:06] <kalorin> tmgb?
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, i think the nvidia ones are the same way
[07:06] <Kevlar_Soul> okay
[07:06] <kalorin> I think that's kind of cool
[07:07] <kalorin> I'd have not thought to wrap a tar with a shell script
[07:07] <kalorin> kind of cool
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> well, it confused me to no end until i realized what was going on
[07:07] <Kevlar_Soul> STILL asking for a directory
[07:07] <calcmandan> Running 6.06.2, considering changing the repos to reflect 7.04 and doing a dist-upgrade.  Is this suggested or shall I do a data backup and do a complete reinstallation?
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then pick one, i would reccomend somewhere in your home folder
[07:08] <Cable86> calcmandan: you should upgrade to 6.10 first, then 7.04
[07:08] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  okay, thanks for your help.
[07:08] <calcmandan> Cable86: ugh.
[07:08] <dhorn> Anyone know why I can't apply a .diff file unless I do a dry run?
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, if you ran it as sudo, it should put a link in /usr/local/bin or some such place for the program executable
[07:09] <Mad> calcmandan: or just run a clean install, someone in here earlier tried that and their system wouldn't boot
[07:09] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  /home/usr ?
[07:09] <Cable86> calcmandan: you shouldnt skip releases in upgrading...so, update to 6.10 and make sure that it is completely up to date, then upgrade to 7.04 from there
[07:09] <Cable86> !upgrade
[07:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:09] <abortd> i just upgraded and tried to use sudo and i get this now
[07:09] <abortd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:09] <abortd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, did it give a suggested directory?
[07:09] <Kevlar_Soul> nope only the one that it is in....
[07:09] <abortd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:09] <Rictoo> abortd: Type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, id say something like ~/realplayer
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> /home/realplayer ?
[07:10] <abortd> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:10] <abortd> oops
[07:10] <calcmandan> Cable86: Well, I didn't upgrade to Edgy because the devs said it wasn't stable enough for a production box. I have a cd and booted it live. With the exception of removing the network software to get it online, it was rather smooth.
[07:10] <Rictoo> lol
[07:10] <abortd> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ~ is a shortcut to the current users home directory
[07:10] <Mad> has anyone here expiremented with putting vmware server on feisty, i hear it takes an additional patch
[07:10] <dhorn> Anyone know why I can't apply a .diff file unless I do a dry run?
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  so I can type "~/realplayer
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> "
[07:10] <Rictoo> abortd: Check ksysguard
[07:10] <Rictoo> is a package manager running?
[07:10] <calcmandan> Cable86: though, I do have a few issues with software starting up slowly that may be cleared up with a fresh installation. Though, it may be fixed up with an upgrade too. Thanks for your advice.
[07:10] <abortd> im not in k :P
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, yes, that'll put it in your home folder
[07:11] <Rictoo> -.-'
[07:11] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you.
[07:11] <abortd> haha
[07:11] <abortd> im just banned from the other chan
[07:11] <Cable86> calcmandan: well, if youre having slowness problems, i might suggest a fresh install as well
[07:11] <Rictoo> LOL
[07:11] <abortd> so i kinda get help in here
[07:11] <Rictoo> ??
[07:11] <Rictoo> Well find the process manager in gnome
[07:11] <Mad> calcmandan: you can never go wrong with a fresh install if you have everything you need to get it back working
[07:11] <Rictoo> and check if some package manager is running
[07:11] <Cable86> calcmandan: there are big changes from dapper>feisty, so a fresh install might indeed be thee best way to go
[07:12] <calcmandan> Cable86: yeah, i'm aware of the huge changes.
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, plus you don't have to install edgy first that way
[07:12] <mardi> anyone here familiar with the ktorrent plugin schedulerplugin?
[07:12] <apus> !alsa
[07:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:12] <calcmandan> Cable86: i may just stick with 6.06 and await a release with kde4.
[07:12] <Kevlar_Soul> prefix for symbolic users?
[07:13] <Cable86> calcmandan: thats a plausible route as well..kde4 sounds like it will be amazing
[07:13] <Mad> calcmandan: if this is a production box, you better make sure you have known compatible hardware with feisty, several people have had troubles with it
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ?
[07:13] <Kevlar_Soul> prefix for symbolix links??
[07:13] <Kevlar_Soul> sorry its asking for a prefix for symbolic links
[07:13] <calcmandan> Cable86: everything I've read and seen about kde4 has me excited.
[07:13] <Rictoo> Will KDE4 look different than KDE3?
[07:13] <Cable86> have they mapped out a release schedule or date for kde4?
[07:14] <apus> what does ctrl alt backspace reset? if Im messing with a sound config file will that suffice to fully restart it
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, id say leave it blank
[07:14] <calcmandan> Mad: yeah, thanks for the advice. I did run the live cd and played around with it. I had an issue getting wireless to work, but resolved it easily.
[07:14] <Cable86> Rictoo: kde4 looks to be almost a complete revamp of kde
[07:14] <calcmandan> Cable86: it is.
[07:14] <Rictoo> COOL
[07:14] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you, right answer
[07:14] <Rictoo> AWESOME
[07:14] <Rictoo> I NEED PICS
[07:14] <Rictoo> lol
[07:14] <calcmandan> http://dot.kde.org/1177286088/
[07:15] <calcmandan> many of the kde programs had to be rewritten too
[07:15] <Mad> calcmandan: yeah, that is a common problem, especially if you have certain boradcom cards, i just finished a clean install myself I had several problems, but i'm new to linux so that was to be expected
[07:15] <Cable86> looks like the KDE 4 target release date is October 23 of this year
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, my question is how compatible will it be with NON-kde apps?
[07:15] <Cable86> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kde_4
[07:15] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you it works perfectly now. I appreciate that.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, np
[07:16] <hendaus> hiya
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, bin files can be tricky
[07:16] <calcmandan> hitmanWilly: i don't know. i doubt the programs would run just fine with the needed libs.
[07:16] <hendaus> please anyone help me i make update for edgy kubuntu and amsn needs TLS module,can anyone help me please
[07:17] <Jack131> how do i find the name of my wif?
[07:17] <Jack131> like wheather is eth0
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, there shouldn't be any issues, but sometimes things don't work as planned
[07:17] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  I am learning, what does chmod +x do exactly?
[07:17] <Ch1ppy> hey, with my upgrade to feisty I have noticed that Kopete's popup for a new message shows up on the top right of my left screen, rather than the bottom right of my right screen where my system tray is, and where it came from in edgy... is there any way to fix this?
[07:18] <Cable86> calcmandan: i wonder if KDE 4 will be in the next release of Kubuntu, as theyre both set to be release during the same month...i have my doubts
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, chmod changes permissions on a file
[07:18] <Mad> I'm looking to use vmware server for virtualization, but it requires a patch to work with the kernel version that feisty uses, has anyone experimented with this and had it work, or other suggestions on virtualization software?
[07:18] <calcmandan> hitmanWilly: i miswrote that. you get the gyst.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> +X is a permission?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, in linux executability is handled as a file permission
[07:18] <Cable86> Kevlar_Soul: +x makes a file executable
[07:18] <calcmandan> Cable86: mark did mention it.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> oh interesting.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> Thank you
[07:18] <calcmandan> do yall use kontact?
[07:18] <hendaus> somebody help me please!!
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, and file extensions don't really matter
[07:19] <Cable86> calcmandan: did he really?  awesome...i wonder if theyll make a freeze exception for it...i know theyve done that for GNOME before
[07:19] <Mad> jack131: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[07:19] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  like .bin?
[07:19] <kalorin> hendaus: yeah for about 5 minutes, then I went to thunderbird
[07:19] <calcmandan> hendaus: in konsole, type sudo apt-cache search TLS
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, most binary files in linux dont have any extension at all
[07:19] <hendaus> kalorin,  thanx , but i make update for edgy kubuntu and amsn cannot open just if u install TLS module
[07:20] <hendaus> calcmandan,  thanx i try
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, because its handled as a permission, you could make foo.heylookatme execute
[07:20] <Ch1ppy> Actually, If I move the System Tray around on my right panel, the bubble moves around, but it is still at the top of the wrong screen... any help?
[07:20] <calcmandan> hendaus: no worries, just a blind guess. i'm not really suited to help people technically. i'm a permanewb.
[07:21] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok done then what can i do
[07:21] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  so, why bin?
[07:21] <calcmandan> hendaus: did you see the pertinent library listed?
[07:21] <apus> I need some help getting envy24control working, anyone use it?
[07:21] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, just for reference purposes
[07:21] <Kevlar_Soul> interesting
[07:21] <calcmandan> hendaus: then type sudo apt-get install _________
[07:22] <calcmandan> hendaus: then type sudo apt-get install TLSwhatever
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, its a different way of doing things
[07:22] <Cable86> anyway yeah.....KDE4 looks to be simply amazing
[07:22] <calcmandan> yeah
[07:22] <calcmandan> In my mind, I was hoping 7.04 would come with kDE4.  I was hoping the group would have it released by then.
[07:22] <calcmandan> It is worth waiting for.  Either way, 6.06.2 is very stable.
[07:23] <calcmandan> works just fine.
[07:23] <hendaus> calcmandan,  but i cant see TLS in the list,
[07:23] <calcmandan> do you see anything pertaining to TLS?
[07:23] <Cable86> anyone else here use yakuake?  its really cool
[07:23] <calcmandan> YES!
[07:23] <hendaus> calcmandan,  sslwrap - Simple TCP service encryption using TLS/SSL
[07:23] <hendaus>  <-- this is show from list
[07:23] <kalorin> yakuake?
[07:24] <Cable86> !info yakuake
[07:24] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:24] <calcmandan> yakuake is RAD
[07:24] <calcmandan> i use it constantly.
[07:24] <Cable86> i just installed it today...VERY cool
[07:24] <calcmandan> just F12 and BOOM, got console.
[07:24] <Cable86> yup
[07:24] <abortd> !pastebin
[07:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <Cable86> i just switched to KDE today actually
[07:24] <calcmandan> hendaus: sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:25] <calcmandan> see what that does.
[07:25] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok thanx
[07:25] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170/
[07:25] <abortd> anyone know how to fix that?
[07:25] <calcmandan> hendaus: crosses fingers for hendaus.
[07:26] <Lynoure> It seems kpilot does not work anymore. It worked in some betas of Feisty
[07:26] <hendaus> calcmandan,  after done it opens an ubuntu configuration
[07:26] <calcmandan> open amsn.
[07:27] <Shiva88> hey all.... just wondering, do most of you kubuntu users use koffice or open office?
[07:27] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170/ plz help
[07:27] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok
[07:27] <Cable86> Shiva88: openoffice...simply because i dont think koffice can handle .doc files
[07:27] <calcmandan> Shiva88: i use both.
[07:28] <Lynoure> Shiva88: feel free to choose the one you prefer :) I haven't tried koffice, for some reason.
[07:28] <pplant> hi
[07:28] <calcmandan> Shiva88: i use open file formats unless someone just absolutely must send me a .doc or .xls.
[07:28] <Shiva88> i was just curious, because i'm running kubutun in VMware on my desktop and i'm really impressed with koffice
[07:28] <Shiva88> er...kubuntu :)
[07:28] <arthur> hello - does anyone know if the realtek sound problem ahs been fixed in feisty?
[07:28] <flaccid> im pretty sure kword can do msword doc
[07:28] <Cable86> that and i dont see the point of having 2 office suites installed :-P
[07:28] <arthur> I downgraded to edgy until this problem is/will be fixed
[07:28] <calcmandan> koffice loads quicker and utilizes fewer resources.  this matters to me most while i'm running qemu.
[07:28] <Shiva88> i thought that it could handle .doc, but i haven't used it extensively
[07:29] <hendaus> calcmandan, i open amsn and when login it opens a window TLS module installation wizard
[07:29] <flaccid> the point of two office suites is dif rendering of prop. documents
[07:29] <calcmandan> hendaus, then follow the prompts.  I don't use amsn and i'm on 6.06.
[07:29] <tmbg> .
[07:31] <Cable86> flaccid: what do you mean?
[07:32] <hendaus> calcmandan,  modules: linux-x86 , linux-x86-64, linux-powerpc,linux-sparc,netbsd-86,netbsd-sparc64,freebsd,solaris,mac,windows,source(need comppiling and instaling),dont install tls it will install it myself
[07:32] <flaccid> like if your word doc looks bad in one suite, it might come out ok in the other
[07:32] <kalorin> how can i tell what version of kde I'm running?
[07:32] <Cable86> ah yes
[07:32] <pplant> does anyone know if it is possible to enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[07:32] <kalorin> ah forget it, I'm stupid 3.5.5
[07:33] <Cable86> but in the scenario where placement is important, wouldnt something like a pdf be more appropriate?
[07:33] <apus> whats the command to see my hardware detected
[07:33] <Shiva88> maybe if you don't want to edit it any further :)
[07:33] <Cable86> apus: lspci?
[07:33] <hendaus> calcmandan,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17171/ <-- this message when i make sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:33] <Lynoure> Ok, does kpilot sync for anyone here on Feisty?
[07:34] <eljefe> good evening.  can anyone tell mw which package to install to allow me to watch mpeg1 videos?
[07:35] <calcmandan> select neither
[07:35] <pplant> eljefe: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:35] <hendaus> calcmandan,  which one
[07:35] <Cable86> eljefe: libxine1-ffmpeg
[07:35] <eljefe> how about in kaffeine?
[07:35] <calcmandan> hendaus, first of all, you didn't paste the complete message.
[07:35] <Cable86> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[07:35] <calcmandan> Select 'neither' if you only intend to use sslwrap by your own request    ?
[07:35] <calcmandan>  ? or want to manually configure it
[07:35] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB
[07:36] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes this when i make sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:36] <eljefe> xine-ffmpeg looks right, thanks!
[07:36] <hendaus> calcmandan, and it says the word [ok]  but i cant click it
[07:36] <ForMatter> Hey,everyone..Where i can get kubuntu 7.04 without download it..
[07:36] <calcmandan> hendauys: http://amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3053
[07:36] <Cable86> ForMatter: you could request shipit cd's, but youd have to wait several weeks before they would arrive
[07:37] <ForMatter> Where i can request it..
[07:37] <calcmandan> ForMatter: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[07:37] <apus> my chaintech card is no longer recognized, help please
[07:38] <apus> formatter: why can't you download?
[07:38] <Cable86> ForMatter: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[07:38] <ForMatter> Cable86: where the site address that i can request kubuntu 7.04?
[07:38] <Cable86> bah, you beat me calcmandan
[07:38] <ForMatter> Thanks..
[07:38] <calcmandan> HAH
[07:39] <calcmandan> time for some bach.
[07:39] <madmike_> ok I keep crashing after awhile but it's a weird crash almost like it half way shuts down but out of nowhere can't make it happen it just does it any ideas?
[07:40] <calcmandan> on the live cd for 7.04, i love how konqueror prompted me to install flash automatically when i loaded a site with flash within it.  It works more like firefox does.  it's rather nice as I prefer konqeuror over firefox.
[07:42] <hendaus> calcmandan,  there is one user solve it by saying this -> I created symlink from /usr/lib/tls1.50 to ~.amsn/plugins and it works!
[07:42] <hendaus> calcmandan,  how can i do that
[07:42] <calcmandan> anyone remember how to do a symlink? i haven't done it since redhat 5.
[07:43] <Cable86> konqueror is definitely nice....i had never used it before today since i had always used gnome
[07:43] <hendaus> calcmandan,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17172/ ,-- see this please
[07:43] <calcmandan> well, i've always preferred kde over gnome.  finally decided to do only one of them.  i used to have both installed and would switch back and forth.  but, i like hard drive space.
[07:43] <Cable86> calcmandan: dont you just use -l -s?
[07:44] <calcmandan> hendaus, i read that already.
[07:44] <calcmandan> it's likely not usable for your situation as it is used to run with a web server.
[07:44] <Cable86> calcmandan: ah, its "ln -s"
[07:44] <calcmandan> hendaus...
[07:45] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes
[07:46] <calcmandan> ln --help
[07:46] <calcmandan> then, i believe it is ln -s TARGET LINK_NAME
[07:46] <dsmith_> is demmocracy player any god?
[07:46] <Cable86> calcmandan: correct
[07:46] <dsmith_> *good
[07:47] <calcmandan> i'm trying to help hendaus here.
[07:47] <hendaus> calcmandan,  it works :)
[07:47] <calcmandan> cable86, what do you think?
[07:47] <hendaus> calcmandan,  thank u friend :))
[07:47] <calcmandan> hendaus: HURRAY. PROST!
[07:47] <Cable86> dsmith_: its pretty good, but its GTK-based
[07:47] <Cable86> calcmandan: what do i think about what?
[07:47] <calcmandan> most welcome hendaus
[07:47] <hendaus> :))
[07:48] <dsmith_> ok
[07:48] <calcmandan> cable86, i was helping hendaus and i was asking what you thought of my suggestions to him.  but it doesn't matter since it is fixed.
[07:48] <Cable86> calc ok :-P
[07:49] <Cable86> so how many here have taken the plunge into 7.04?
[07:50] <flaccid> i have
[07:50] <Cable86> same, its great
[07:51] <flaccid> it seems more stable than dapper which is suprising
[07:52] <Cable86> wow, the #ubuntu channel has an unbelievable number of people in it
[07:52] <calcmandan> I loaded a live disc and played around with it.
[07:52] <Mad> i'm in feisty as well, only problem i still have is getting vmware server, or player to work right
[07:52] <Mad> everything else is amazing
[07:52] <calcmandan> has anyone gotten attempted to get parallels to work on 6.06?
[07:52] <mefisto__> after edgy-to-feisty upgrade, Kicker is always crashing. Nothing to do with my profile (renaming /.kde folder or creating a new user has no effect). Any ideas how I can solve this?
[07:53] <ian_> I've gotten it to work, but it doesn't seem as full-featured as vmware
[07:53] <apus> can anyone help me get my sound card working, ive been googling for an hour
[07:53] <Cable86> mefisto__: you may be looking at a fresh install
[07:53] <calcmandan> i could never get it to work.  said it required a recompile of the kernel.
[07:54] <calcmandan> and that, my friend, is something i would rather not do.
[07:54] <jussi01> can someone tell me what the kde equivalent of libpam-keyring is?
[07:54] <mefisto__> Cable86: but it's just kicker not working. Has anyone had this kind of problem with kicker before?
[07:54] <ian_> calcmandan, you have to ensure that you have the kernel sources loaded, and the kernel headers.  Usually vmware complains it can't find a module that matches the running kernel, so it goes ahead using the kernal source and kernel headers to compile what it needs.
[07:55] <calcmandan> yeah, ian, i did that.  even with all the sources and headers, it never stopped complaining about the same old thing.  felt like i was married.
[07:55] <calcmandan> then the product key expired as it was a demo.
[07:57] <abortd> how do i enable compiz in feisty?
[07:57] <mefisto__> before I do a fresh install, can I somehow get a list of currently installed apps? or maybe just the apps in the Kmenu?
[07:58] <ian_> calmandan, I should hasten to point out that I'm not running Kubuntu, but rather Mepis, which is based about 90% on Dapper Drake. I just wandered in here to try out a new IRC client that I just downloaded from the repositories....
[07:58] <calcmandan> abortd: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/20/1424223&from=rss
[07:59] <ian_> The nice thing about it is, that I even managed to download a virtual machine from the pirate bay and now have OS X reasonably well, except that the sound stutters....
[08:00] <calcmandan> ian_ oh i appreciate the tips.  i gave up as it wasn't really that needed.  just another software toy, if you will.
[08:00] <calcmandan> besides, qemu works just fine fromwhat i hear.  Now I just need to figure out how to create a virtual machine for qemu so i can test stuff in windows without dual booting.
[08:01] <apus> ian what soundcard do you have
[08:01] <ian_> calcmandan, I had absolutely no luck with qemu... perhaps I didn't give it enough of a try.
[08:02] <calcmandan> ian_ my success in qemu has been limited to loading .iso files.  so, for instance, if i want to run 7.04.iso, i type qemu -cdrom 7.04.iso and it loads it like it would as a live CD.
[08:02] <calcmandan> it's just quite slow on my machine as it is running on a 3yo processor.
[08:02] <ian_> apus, it's an Intel HDA on an Asus p5b motherboard... apparently, it's a soundmax AD1988A.
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the command to check a release one is using?
[08:03] <mrdlouisd> how can a transfer files from my win server to linux laptop?
[08:03] <jussi01> calcmandan: what are you trying to do?
[08:03] <flaccid> Admiral_Chicago: lsb_release -a
[08:03] <ian_> Admiral_chicago, try uname -a
[08:03] <flaccid> !samba > mrdlouisd
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks fl
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks all*
[08:04] <calcmandan> jussi01: well, leisurely researching how to create a virtual machine in qemu so I can load an instance of windows as a test environmnet.
[08:04] <mrdlouisd> lot of samba distros got a preference flaccid?
[08:04] <ian_> calcmandan, vmware runs at near native speed on this box... but it is new, with a Dual Core 2.13Ghz, and just over 3GB ram.
[08:04] <abortd> calcmandan, if i have beryl installed did it update it?
[08:04] <calcmandan> abortd: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[08:04] <jussi01> calcmandan: why qemu? dont you like virtualbox or vmware....
[08:05] <abortd> haha im running ubuntu feisty
[08:05] <calcmandan> jussi01: i simply haven't tried them yet. qemu is in the repo and was easiest to get going. no hassle at all.
[08:05] <calcmandan> abortd: feisty has beryl installed. read that article i linked and it'll explain how to enable it.
[08:05] <flaccid> mrdlouisd: there is only one i know of. samba3
[08:05] <ian_> calcmandan, one thing... don't mix vmware workstation and player... they don't play nicely together.
[08:05] <jussi01> calcmandan: fair enough...
[08:06] <mrdlouisd> ah thanks flaccid
[08:06] <mrdlouisd> much appreciated
[08:06] <jussi01> calcmandan: what ian_ said
[08:06] <abortd> i did a upgrade not a fresh install calcmandan and i have beryl installed already
[08:06] <calcmandan> good tip. :)
[08:06] <calcmandan> it just needs to be enabled.
[08:07] <flaccid> ubuntu does need better default samba support. its a very common question here.
[08:07] <calcmandan> ian_ where did you get the virtual machine for xp with vmware?
[08:07] <jussi01> so anyone know how to get the wallet to not ask me for my password every boot?
[08:08] <ian_> calmandan, I made the machine with vmware workstation.
[08:08] <calcmandan> i'm running AMD AthlonXP 1.5GHZ, 1gb RAM, 128mb nvidia video card
[08:08] <calcmandan> ian_: ah, i'm too cheap to buy workstation.
[08:08] <sepeck> you could just get the server edition
[08:08] <ian_> calcmandan, you can run a demo, and if you're really cheap, use a key generator
[08:09] <calcmandan> if i'm too cheap for workstation, i'm definitely too cheap for server.
[08:09] <sepeck> server is free
[08:09] <abortd> im going to just do a new install...
[08:09] <calcmandan> ian_ yeah, but the good folks at vmware deserve the dollar, in my opinion.
[08:09] <saladasalad> hi all, i just hit this bug while upgrading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konq-kim/+bug/99019
[08:09] <saladasalad> now the upgrade manager is just sitting there
[08:09] <mefisto__> before I do a fresh install, can I somehow get a list of currently installed apps? or maybe just the apps in the Kmenu? Can apt do that?
[08:09] <pgquiles> was the ata2 bug with laptops fixed in time for feisty-release?
[08:09] <sepeck> http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
[08:09] <saladasalad> what should i do with it?
[08:09] <calcmandan> mefisto_ good question.
[08:09] <jussi01> !cloning | mefisto__
[08:09] <ubotu> mefisto__: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[08:10] <ian_> calcmandan, You don't hear me arguing there.... the folk over at vmware deserve the money--it's a great product.  It's just too bad that they can't legally make an XP machine and post it.
[08:10] <abortd> how do i mount a partition?
[08:10] <mefisto__> thanks jussi01
[08:10] <jussi01> mefisto__: np
[08:11] <abortd> !mount
[08:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:11] <ian_> calcmandan, some people apparently have used qemu to make virtual machines that they later run with vmware player.
[08:11] <calcmandan> well, i have an authentic copy of xp (given to me), never installed anywhere.  I would like to set aside 20gb for a VM of xp so I can run tests whenever it is needed.
[08:11] <abortd> !diskmounter
[08:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:11] <pgquiles> abortd: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/disk1 mounts an ext3 partition (/dev/sda1) in disk1
[08:11] <calcmandan> ian_ oh really?
[08:12] <ian_> calcmandan, Now that I think of it, there is apparently a way to use an already-created physical partition, perhaps you should look into that?
[08:12] <saladasalad> anyone?
[08:12] <calcmandan> ian_: uh, i don't have a free partition, to be honest. i suppose I can resize my current partition and create a new one.
[08:14] <apus> if I know the name of a driver, how do I install it?
[08:14] <pgquiles> apus: modprobe driver
[08:14] <calcmandan> sudo apt-get install driver
[08:14] <kalorin> heh
[08:14] <kalorin> too funny
[08:14] <kalorin> run the vmware server on your box
[08:14] <kalorin> connect to it via rdesktop
[08:15] <kalorin> just like being there :)
[08:15] <apus> pqguiles so I need to manually download it?
[08:15] <kalorin> have it mount a samba share of your home directory back
[08:15] <kalorin> now you're all sorts of capable
[08:15] <calcmandan> oh server is free.
[08:15] <calcmandan> hmm, if it's free, it's me
[08:16] <abortd> why wont my new partition let me copy and paste files to it?
[08:16] <calcmandan> abortd: check permissions.
[08:17] <abortd> which one should i set?
[08:17] <ian_> calcmandan, vmware server is really more for server installations as opposed to desktop.  According to what I've read, desktop performance is sluggish using vmware server, as it isn't optimized for desktop use.
[08:17] <calcmandan> oh ok
[08:17] <calcmandan> strike that
[08:17] <saladasalad> can anyone help me out here?
[08:18] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to determine what the UID of a user was after reinstalling Ubuntu?  I need to create 3 new users (who have their own home folders on a separate partition)... but would like all the permissions to remain the same.  However, I lost the paper that I wrote their UIDs on...
[08:19] <calcmandan> saladasalad: i read your question, but it is beyond me.
[08:19] <saladasalad> ok, thanks anyway
[08:19] <calcmandan> try kubuntuforums.net or justlinux.com for soluions.
[08:20] <ian_> calcmandan, try going to www.demonoid.com and search using vmware image.  The first item you'll find is a Windows XP virtual machine.
[08:20] <calcmandan> already downloading one, HAHA
[08:20] <calcmandan> i use ktorrent.
[08:20] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to determine what the UID of a user was after reinstalling Ubuntu?  I need to create 3 new users (who have their own home folders on a separate partition)... but would like all the permissions to remain the same.  However, I lost the paper that I wrote their UIDs on...
[08:21] <ian_> What I like is being able to run OS X under vmware-=it's a bit of a conversatio piece, especially when you run it full-screen....
[08:21] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: Kmenu->System Settings->Users&Groups
[08:21] <flaccid> TheCreationist: no its not. if its wiped, its wiped.
[08:22] <calcmandan> oh
[08:22] <abortd> mount: can't find uuid=12f68f16197e6891 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:22] <abortd> ?
[08:22] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Well, the /home partition hasn't changed at all... is there some way to look at the users' files and determine what user ID number the owner was?
[08:22] <apus> flaccid: I challenge you to get my sound card working
[08:22] <flaccid> apus: why should i
[08:23] <TheCreationist> apus: You using Feisty?
[08:23] <apus> TheCreationist: yes
[08:23] <apus> flaccid: because no one else can
[08:23] <flaccid> TheCreationist: you can check /etc/passwd for IDs on the current system.
[08:23] <TheCreationist> apus: lol good luck.  TONS of people have that problem, and NO ONE knows how to fix it.  I finally just went back and installed Edgy again... because they screwed up hardware stuff in Feisty.
[08:24] <flaccid> apus: thats a lengthy support session. i might be able to do it tonight as im at work now
[08:24] <apus> TheCreationist: its recognized, just doesn't work
[08:24] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Actually, I just found out that I can just right-click on any of the old users' files and look at the permissions... it tells the UID right there.
[08:24] <TheCreationist> apus: Yeah, I know... same here.
[08:24] <TheCreationist> apus: Never looked like something was wrong, it detected the hardware fine, but just wouldn't work no matter what I did.
[08:24] <flaccid> thats right. the current UID
[08:24] <flaccid> you can't get a previous installs UID
[08:24] <flaccid> if its the default admin users, its probably going to be 1001
[08:25] <TheCreationist> flaccid: You sure?  Because I don't have any new users added yet, but each old user's files all have different UIDs
[08:25] <apus> TheCreationist: mine works but no spdif
[08:25] <Mad> apus: have you tried loading only the firmware from a windows driver, it sounds a lot like the problem some broadcom wireless users including myself had
[08:25] <dognews> hi
[08:25] <abortd> i wish i could make a backup partition...
[08:25] <Cable86> broadcom sucks
[08:25] <flaccid> TheCreationist: um yes i'm sure. im not sure what your problem is here at all...
[08:26] <fabon> hello
[08:26] <Mad> cable86: that it does, althought i got mine working riht without ndiswrapper
[08:26] <Mad> right*
[08:26] <TheCreationist> flaccid: I just know that when I add new users to a fresh install, and then assign their OLD /home folder to the NEW user, unless the NEW user has the same UID as the OLD, they won't be able to access their /home files.
[08:26] <fabon> i'vE  problem with my dlink g650+ i cant connect
[08:26] <TheCreationist> flaccid: So I needed to make sure that when I create the NEW users, I give them the same UID.
[08:26] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:26] <Cable86> Mad: really?  i had a 4306 and never ever got it to work....ended up buying an atheros card
[08:26] <flaccid> TheCreationist: yeah but thats just solved with 1 chmod command..
[08:27] <apus> mad there is a program called envy24control designed specifically to make this card work, it just wont run for some reason, says I have the wrong driver (1724) when the program was made for 1712, but people on the net, including the creators of it, say its works for the chaintech av710
[08:27] <Mad> cable86: same card i had, working fine now
[08:27] <flaccid> TheCreationist: don't worrya bout the UID. if you added them correctly just chown
[08:27] <fabon> knetworkmanager stay in 28%
[08:27] <TheCreationist> flaccid: True... but why not save a step if possible?
[08:27] <flaccid> TheCreationist: there is no step to save.
[08:27] <fabon> i'm really san about this
[08:27] <Cable86> Mad: interesting....thing is, last time i tried it i was running dapper :-P
[08:27] <flaccid> sudo chown -R flaccid:flaccid /home/flaccid
[08:27] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Nevermind... I must not be explaining it right.  I figured it out, though...
[08:27] <Mad> apus: well i'm not much of a linux buff, windows expert, but new to linux so i won't even try then
[08:27] <flaccid> thats all you would do
[08:28] <fabon> can you helpe please
[08:28] <fabon> im desperate
[08:28] <apus> kinda ticked, ive heard linux has great hardware support unless its new
[08:28] <apus> this card has been around for 4 years
[08:28] <dognews> I just tried to update my kubuntu with adept_manager and then had this message: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unterprozess gzip ist mit einem Fehlercode zurckgekehrt (1)
[08:28] <dognews> Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unterprozess gzip ist mit einem Fehlercode zurckgekehrt (1)"
[08:28] <Mad> cable86: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:28] <fabon> i'vE  problem with my dlink g650+ i cant connect
[08:28] <flaccid> it depends on the vendor. linux has bad support for a lot of hardware still and thats the vendors fault as they don't write drivers etc.
[08:28] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:29] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:29] <fabon> sorry
[08:29] <Cable86> Mad: yep, tried that in dapper too, no dice
[08:29] <calcmandan> when i loaded 7.04 on a live disc, i was ripping my hair out trying to get past 28% on my wireless router.  i have a broadcom card.  after removing that knetworkmanager and setting the proper IP for the default gateway, it connected automatically for me and worked fine.
[08:29] <Mad> cable86: they say it is hit or miss, i got lucky i guess
[08:30] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Does Edgy work well for you?
[08:30] <Cable86> Mad: must have...although my replacement card was cheap, so i wasnt too pissed about it
[08:30] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: never tried 6.10 bro, i'm still on 6.06.
[08:30] <Mad> cable86: was it a 100mW card though? or a 40?  the broadcom is a 10mW card so you will lose range if you buy a cheaper 40mW card
[08:31] <calcmandan> i had apt remove knetworkmanager.  then used the network control in system settings.
[08:31] <Cable86> Mad: i honestly have no clue
[08:31] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Ah.  Well, I learned the hard way after using 6.10 for a few months - if it's not broke, don't fix it.  Edgy worked well for me, but I still decided to upgrade to Feisty... lost my sound AND cd burner... no one could help fix it. :P  So just be careful.  If the LiveCD doesn't work, give it a few weeks and see if they offer some bug fixes.
[08:31] <fabon> calcmandan do'u remove knetwork manager?
[08:31] <Mad> cable86: something you can check on, although if it is doing everything you need, then i wouldn't even bother with it
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: well, i got everything to work. the only issue was the wireless card. but, i am going to hold off until kde4 comes out.
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: we were discssing it earlier. 6.06 is really stable and nothing is really wrong with it.
[08:32] <Cable86> Mad: how do i check that?  just the packaging or whatever?
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: besides the desire to use the new amarok, i'm happy with what i have.
[08:32] <Mad> this is my first time to run linux in a non-virtual enviroment, put 7.04 on my laptop and working to completely rid it of all that is windows
[08:33] <Mad> cable86: might be on packaging, if not chec vendor website
[08:33] <Cable86> calcmandan: isnt there a repo for the latest amarok?  or is that for edgy?
[08:33] <Mad> cable86: or newegg, sometimes they have stats
[08:33] <fabon> mi card was detected but still in 28%
[08:33] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Yeah, my biggest reason for not staying with 6.06 for long was Firefox 2...
[08:34] <calcmandan> Cable86: that's edgy
[08:34] <Cable86> calcmandan: ok, just checking
[08:34] <Mad> has anyone here used VirtualBox, and how does it compart to vmware?
[08:34] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: i followed kubutnu.org's instructions on installing firefox 2 manually.
[08:34] <Mad> compare*
[08:34] <fabon> :( mi wifi doesnt work
[08:34] <fabon> i will come back to windows :(
[08:34] <firecrotch> fabon: Are you on Edgy?
[08:35] <Mad> fabon: what card do you use?
[08:35] <fabon> fesity
[08:35] <abortd> why cant i get this partition mounted?
[08:35] <fabon> feisty
[08:35] <Cable86> fabon: is your internet slow or something?
[08:35] <fabon> i cant connect via wifi
[08:35] <Cable86> fabon: my networkmanager % is very low as well, but it works just fine, not slow or anything
[08:36] <fabon> i cant connect still in 28%
[08:36] <calcmandan> Cable86: i removed knetworkmanager and connected wirelessly through network settings.
[08:36] <calcmandan> Cable86: that was on the live disc though. maybe you should try it first via a live disc.
[08:36] <fabon> i can see the networks, in this case my network called "ubuntu"
[08:36] <Mad> fabon: which card do you have?
[08:36] <Cable86> calcmandan: i simply did a manual config without knetworkmanager and that seems to work quite well
[08:36] <fabon> but when i entered the wep key
[08:37] <fabon> plaf!!!!!!! a very large pause in 28%
[08:37] <fabon> and nothing happen
[08:37] <calcmandan> Cable86: well, yeah. i was connecting and pinging, but couldn't surf until i removed the manager soft.
[08:37] <calcmandan> everyone is different i suppose.
[08:37] <Cable86> fabon: do you have SSID broadcast enabled or disabled on your router?
[08:37] <fabon> Mad i have dlink g650+ chip acx111
[08:38] <fabon> enabled
[08:38] <Mad> fabon: i'll see if i can find anything on it, but no promises
[08:38] <fabon> i cant connect none etworks
[08:38] <Cable86> fabon: hm ok...im not sure then
[08:38] <abortd> how do u open a folder with sudo?
[08:38] <fabon> i cant connect in university, in mcdonald XD nothing
[08:38] <Cable86> ive found that feisty doesnt like wireless networks with SSID broadcast disabled
[08:39] <Mad> mine at home works just fine
[08:39] <fabon> i cant connect a s....hit
[08:39] <Cable86> weird...mine wouldnt connect until i enabled it, then it worked perfectly
[08:39] <Mad> although not every feisty install is equal is what i have learned heh
[08:40] <calcmandan> they must've rushed this release.
[08:40] <calcmandan> beta didn't last but a week.
[08:40] <Mad> has anyone here used VirtualBox, if so how does it compare to vmware?
[08:40] <calcmandan> madmike_: not me
[08:40] <fabon> :(
[08:40] <firecrotch> calcmandan: Just because the beta didn't last long doesn't mean that they rushed it
[08:40] <fabon> i dislike windows
[08:40] <fabon> i donde wanna come back
[08:41] <calcmandan> firecrotch: touche.
[08:41] <firecrotch> calcmandan: In fact, I would say that when it was in "alpha", it was beta quality, at least
[08:41] <Mad> me either fabon, hang in there man
[08:41] <Mad> took me a few days to get shit working right, couldn't be happier now though, just need a good virtualization option now
[08:41] <jussi01> Mad: its very good, although i have heard of some troubles on feisty
[08:41] <Cable86> calcmandan: beta was out for almost 1 month
[08:41] <Cable86> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28feisty%29%7C%28schedule%29
[08:41] <Mad> my school requires windows 2k or xp for online software
[08:42] <firecrotch> Mad: What kind of online software?
[08:42] <Mad> jussi01: really, they recently added it to supported versions list
[08:42] <fabon> so i dont have solutions?
[08:42] <Mad> firecrotch: for the online classes
[08:42] <abortd> !fstab
[08:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:43] <firecrotch> Mad: ITT Tech, by chance?
[08:43] <jussi01> Mad: oh, ok, well i was talking to a guy who used it on the beta, maybe they fixed the small prob he had.. others i know have had no probs..
[08:43] <Mad> firecrotch: nope, a&m commerce heh, ecollege is what they use
[08:43] <Mad> jussi01: ty much, is the performance similar to vmware?
[08:44] <apus> so when a 4 year old sound card ISN'T supported, I thinks to myself, switch back to windows
[08:44] <Cable86> Mad: bleh, tell them to use moodle or something :-)
[08:44] <fabon> :( im so sad :(
[08:44] <jussi01> Mad: yeah, its very good performancewise... maybe slightly faster than vmware
[08:44] <Mad> cable86: lol even the techies hate ecollege, it shouldn't be long
[08:44] <firecrotch> fabon: have you tried ifdown <interface>  then ifup <interface> from the command line?
[08:44] <calcmandan> hey, i'm not talking down about kubuntu.  man, this is the best distro i've ever used.
[08:44] <fabon> yep
[08:45] <Mad> jussi01: well i'm going to start the process, thanks much
[08:45] <calcmandan> i'm a big distributor of this OS.  I must've switched two dozen people.
[08:45] <calcmandan> big, in my eyes..
[08:45] <pplant> is anyone else here having problems with audio in feisty? my sound cuts in and out, and is very quiet.
[08:45] <pplant> noticed this in ubuntu and kubuntu, on a toshiba laptop.
[08:45] <Cable86> pplant: nope, my sound is just fine
[08:45] <firecrotch> fabon: well, since you can actually see the network, you're in at least decent shape.  Are you using WEP or WPA?
[08:45] <pplant> sound is fine on my sony vaio, and my dell laptop.
[08:45] <Mad> heh my other option is to put ie on my linux, i don't know what is more evil, being windows dependent, or running the one program i would take out of windows if i only had one choice
[08:45] <fabon> wep
[08:46] <fabon> firecrotch i use wep
[08:47] <firecrotch> fabon: Using a 64 bit key or 128 bits?
[08:47] <calcmandan> g'night folks.  it was fun.
[08:47] <pplant> I have 4 machines here running (k/x/ubuntu) and only the toshiba seems to be having problems with the audio...
[08:47] <firecrotch> goodnight, calcmandan
[08:47] <fabon> 64
[08:47] <fabon> firecrotch 64
[08:48] <firecrotch> fabon:  Try changing the key to 128 bits on your wireless router
[08:48] <fabon> ok
[08:48] <red22> anyone know how to get your winkey working if it's not doing anything? after feisty install it's dead.
[08:48] <Mad> fabon: try taking security off first, and see if it works
[08:49] <Cable86> winkey?
[08:49] <fabon> security off?
[08:49] <fabon> what is that?
[08:49] <Mad> fabon: just make it an open, unsecured connection, and see if it works
[08:49] <red22> cable86: super key, windows key, menu key whatever you want to call it
[08:49] <fabon> oh ok
[08:49] <mattrperry1976> can anyone help with cd/dvd drive mounting?
[08:49] <Cable86> red22: ah, i was pronouncing it as one word, that makes much more sense lol
[08:50] <red22> hehe
[08:50] <firecrotch> Cable86:  lol
[08:50] <red22> don't worry  it's late
[08:50] <Cable86> red22: anyway...in kde the win key is used as a modifier, not as a key in and of itself
[08:50] <red22> point is, anyone know how to get it working again? if you all press it, does your kmenu pop up?
[08:51] <pplant> anyone here running beryl?
[08:51] <firecrotch> pplant: I am
[08:51] <pplant> firecrotch, are you having any issues with playing video with beryl?
[08:52] <red22> cable86: if you press your windows key, does your kmenu open?
[08:52] <nani> hello!!
[08:52] <mattrperry1976> can anyone help with disk/filesystems mounting cd/dvd drives?
[08:52] <firecrotch> pplant:  Nope, haven't had a problem with that
[08:52] <Cable86> red22: no, as i said...it is used as a modifier in KDE....you can configure shortcuts like Win+L (for example), but cant use it as a shortcut by itself
[08:52] <red22> pplant i get a weird green line across the top with beryl
[08:53] <nani> im a beginer with kubuntu and the inglish!!
[08:53] <pplant> :-( I love beryl but I am tired of having to quit out to metacity or kwin to play video on vlc... :-(
[08:53] <firecrotch> pplant: Try disabling effects and stuff one by one, and you'll probably figure out what is causing it.
[08:53] <red22> pplant what happens when you try video under beryl?
[08:53] <pplant> ahh... good idea, I have them all cranked up
[08:54] <nani> good bye people
[08:54] <pplant> red22.. the video flickers when I move the window by dragging the title bar.. and when I let go, just black in the region where the video should be.
[08:54] <red22> cable86: for example, what is a key combo with the windows key to test if it's working?
[08:54] <shrimants> hello, i am having problems with Kubuntu, Amarok, and my MP3 player
[08:54] <faboncito> ready i change to an uot of password network
[08:54] <firecrotch> pplant:  my guess is it's the Put plugin
[08:54] <Cable86> red22: well, you would have to configure one
[08:54] <faboncito> let see what happend
[08:54] <pplant> video appears to play (decode) just fine otherwise.. when I switch back to the default window manager it works okay
[08:54] <red22> pplant: no i don't get that problem here
[08:55] <pplant> (disabling put.. brb)
[08:55] <shrimants> i was able to make amarok recognize the player, but now i do not know how to transfer files from the player to the computer
[08:55] <pplant> hm.. put is already disabled.. that's not it.
[08:55] <red22> cable86: so under feisty the windows key by defalut does nothing?
[08:55] <faboncito> the same shit :(
[08:55] <faboncito> the network doenst work
[08:55] <Cable86> red22: correct
[08:55] <faboncito> i cant connect to my wireless
[08:55] <jordo23> !version
[08:55] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:56] <red22> older kubuntu versions all have used it to open the kmenu by default..
[08:56] <jordo23> !nvidia
[08:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <faboncito> :(
[08:56] <shrimants> help? anyone?
[08:57] <Cable86> goodnight all, its 2am and bedtime for me
[08:57] <shrimants> night
[08:57] <red22> gn
[08:58] <red22> anyone else know how to get your windows key on your keyboard working pls?
[08:59] <kraut> moin
[08:59] <red22> i installed beryl and i can do everything except that which requires the windows key.  (it works if i bind the command to another key so apparently the win key is dead)
[08:59] <JohnFlux> !winkey
[08:59] <ubotu> To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[08:59] <JohnFlux> red22: ^
[09:00] <red22> ah ty i will read. brb.
[09:00] <fabon2> hello again
[09:00] <fabon2> :(
[09:00] <shrimants> help me please
[09:00] <jordo23> To installl Nvidia drivers on Feisty, the wiki says to use the Restricted Device Manager.....where is this in Kubuntu?
[09:01] <firecrotch> red22: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/10/kde-multimediaextended-keys-setup-on.html   may be helpful to you
[09:03] <fabon2> so i cant use my wifi :(
[09:03] <fabon2> i will come back to windows :(
[09:03] <fabon2> sorry friends
[09:03] <fabon2> but i need wifi
[09:04] <trym> Im having trouble running the live cd on an ati radeon mobility x1350
[09:05] <trym> isnt that supposed to be supported?
[09:05] <TheCreationist> So in the guide to upgrading from Edgy to Feisty, it says to Enable edgy-upgrades in my sources... I don't see it listed there anywhere...
[09:07] <jordo23> How do you initiate the Restricted Package manager?
[09:07] <jordo23> Or where?
[09:12] <Tired_> Hi.  I just felt compelled to pop in and say how thoroughly impressed I am with my new Feisty desktop.
[09:12] <Tired_> Kudos.  :)
[09:12] <red22> JohnFlux + firecrotch: thanks, both links pretty useful.  i used xev to see my key bindings and it does capture the win key fine when pressed (super_l) it's just not bound to anything.  weird that beryl doesn't like it for shortcuts..
[09:13] <JohnFlux> red22: beryl is gtk, so maybe there's something there
[09:15] <mad_dawg> hey all, i'm looking for a good, fully functional, free compiler, similar to bloodshed dev c++ for windows if possible, and suggestions?
[09:15] <red22> true, i'll try searching for it in regards to that and see.
[09:16] <igi> hi, how to install package I have on my hd with all its depes. from repos?
[09:21] <Endler> Is anyone here using Firestarter?  It works for me under Kubuntu 7.04, but crashes if I click the "Lock Firewall" button.  I does, it fact lock down the firewall before hanging, I will put it back in normal mode if you terminate it and relaunch it.  But you can never lock, and they right away unlock it by hitting the unlock button, because it freezes up immediately after locking.
[09:21] <jordo23> What do I do if the restricted-manager says I have my Nvidia driver enabled, I have a supported card, but do not see any Nvidia boot screen nor have access to any higher screen resolutions?
[09:25] <Ayabara> Has anyone seen a .deb for Thunderbird 2.0 yet?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> Ayabara: doesnt exist
[09:28] <Ayabara> Hobbsee, ok. maybe I can build it myself to install?
[09:28] <Ayabara> what a sentence..
[09:28] <Hobbsee> Ayabara: see wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[09:29] <Ayabara> Hobbsee, just what I wanted. thanks :-)
[09:30] <gh> c/lose
[09:31] <jordo23> I Installed the Nvidia driver through the restricted device/driver manager, and see it enabled. I have a supported card and it worked fine under Edgy. I can't access any higher resolutions nor see an nvidia splash screen when x starts....any ideas?
[09:38] <crweb> how do i get the installer to let me install without formatting my / ?
[09:39] <lithium> i have a logitech  MX518 mouse.. how to enable the side buttons on tis one ?
[09:39] <Hobbsee> crweb: you cant, unless you make another partition
[09:40] <crweb> thats not a good thing
[09:40] <crweb> all i have is /backup on the partition
[09:41] <Hobbsee> you need to stick the backup on another partition, or burn it to cd or something
[09:42] <crweb> that is just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard
[09:42] <lithium> cant anyone help ma with my mouse ?
[09:42] <crweb> is there not a console or advanced installer anymore?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> does *any* os let you do that?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> sure, it's on the alternate cd
[09:43] <Hobbsee> but it will format / and install on it
[09:43] <crweb> Hobbsee: *any* other os i've ever used will yes
[09:43] <crweb> especially when you're trying to recover
[09:43] <apokryphos> Ubuntu has another CD for the more advanced installation
[09:44] <crweb> i suppose i'm suppose to magically download it into ram, and burn it to cd..
[09:44] <crweb> lukey thing _i_ can...
[09:44] <crweb> lucky
[09:45] <crazy_bus> can k3b burn video dvds from any video file.  Or do I need to use another program?
[09:45] <tenmoi> join #kubuntu
[09:47] <boyke> how can i install java on kubuntu?
[09:48] <boyke> how can i install java on kubuntu?
[09:48] <boyke> hallo
[09:48] <boyke> kubuntuers
[09:48] <boyke> can you help me?
[09:49] <tenmoi> what version is it
[09:49] <boyke> 6
[09:50] <tenmoi> 6.10?
[09:50] <boyke> ya
[09:50] <kinus_> isn't there a java6 package in universe?
[09:50] <boyke> i try adept installer but return me an error
[09:51] <tenmoi> have an internet connection
[09:52] <boyke> yes
[09:53] <tenmoi> wait a minute. i know where to get help.
[09:53] <boyke> ok tks
[09:53] <pgquiles_> boyke: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse to the repositories
[09:53] <sean__> hi i just installed kubuntu
[09:54] <sean__> how can i get rid of animations and shadows?
[09:54] <boyke> can you tell me how?
[09:54] <boyke> open a source list
[09:54] <boyke> and?
[09:55] <pplant> I got an error when installing java too.
[09:56] <pplant> I had to roll it back to java5
[09:56] <boyke> i already open source.list
[09:56] <boyke> how should i add a line?
[09:57] <boyke> theres multiverse to there
[09:57] <boyke> can anybody help me installing java?
[09:57] <pplant> go into adept and add the sun java componenets, version 5
[09:58] <boyke> pplant : i get an error message
[09:58] <pplant> use the gui, it's easiest
[09:58] <pplant> what error do you get?
[09:58] <boyke> wait
[09:58] <boyke> what section?
[09:59] <boyke> internet?
[09:59] <pplant> umm.... yes, internet
[09:59] <pplant> use the "sun" ones
[09:59] <renato> Hi, I have swiftbox 32 bit installed on a box with feisty amd64. Does anybody know how I can install on it the 32 bit vlc and vlc plugins?
[10:00] <boyke> wait my adept is still runing
[10:00] <pplant> renato, i dunno, never ran the 64 bit versions of ubuntu
[10:01] <pplant> boyke: quit all of your adepts and also quit any konsole windows you may have recently run apt-get inside of, as they can leave behind instances
[10:01] <boyke> ok
[10:04] <pgquiles_> boyke: paste your sources.list
[10:04] <sean__> how do i get rid of the animation when i scroll over a window in the taskbar
[10:05] <pplant> in kde, sean?
[10:06] <MementoMori> hi all
[10:07] <sean__> yeah
[10:07] <MementoMori> which package should I install in order to have svn text client?
[10:07] <MementoMori> !svn
[10:07] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:07] <pplant> it's in settings>look and feel>appearance
[10:07] <david_> :)  Helpful people: xorg.conf says all my display modes are able to go to 1280x1024, but the silly KDE junk won't let me change it beyone 800x600... Any ideas?
[10:08] <sean__> not in settings manager
[10:09] <david_> ?
[10:09] <pplant> hmm
[10:09] <pplant> "enable hover" didnt work for you?
[10:10] <litropy> guys, I'm getting a white screen when starting beryl
[10:11] <litropy> nobody's in #beryl right now
[10:11] <pplant> white screen when starting beryl, means you are out of video memory
[10:11] <litropy> nvidia card, feisty 7.04, latest version of beryl.
[10:11] <pplant> disable any intensive GL screensavers that may be running, games, etc... reboot to clear memory.
[10:12] <sean__> where is that?
[10:12] <pplant> sean, I just tried it and it doesnt look like it works.. i want to disble those things too because they conflict with beryl's thumbnails
[10:13] <litropy> it is a white screen, sean, but I still have my cursor
[10:13] <litropy> err not sean pplant
[10:13] <pplant> too tired/drunk to go a-hunting for it now.. suspect it's in the settings manager somewhere
[10:13] <tenmoi> boyke. are you there
[10:13] <pplant> litropy, when the white screen comes up, can you control-alt and click to get to the cube?
[10:14] <litropy> I'll try. might have to ctrl-alt-delete so I might brb
[10:14] <sean__> now to get hardware acceleration to work :P
[10:14] <jordo23> I have just installed Kubuntu Feisty. Fresh install. What's the best way to install the driver for my Nvidia 6800?
[10:14] <pplant> if the white screen hangs you up hit control-alt-backspace to kill/restart X
[10:14] <sean__> i have an old card, tnt and it won't let me switch
[10:15] <david_> okay.... kubuntu recognized my Nvidia card's model.... It recognized my monitor.... Would it help to install a proprietary driver?  And if so, why doesn't "su -" work?
[10:15] <pplant> had the white screen bite me a couple of times on this lousy GMA945 adapter
[10:15] <david_> yet it still isn't letting me switch resolution!
[10:16] <jordo23> I tried installing with the Restricted Device Manager and it did nothing...
[10:16] <jordo23> david_:  same thing happened to me.....can't get higher resolutions....
[10:16] <sean__> how do you get restricted device in kubuntu?
[10:16] <jordo23> sean_: I installed restricted-manager through apt....
[10:16] <david_> That sux... What's funny is that I magically got it to work yesterday, but I re-installed.... Now it won't work again.
[10:16] <david_> wish I remembered how i did it lol
[10:17] <litropy> yes, got the cube
[10:17] <sean__> i say i prefer kubuntu over ubuntu so far
[10:17] <jordo23> david_: I used the restricted manager, and everything installed fine...it said....but I never got an Nvidia splash or access to higher resolutions...
[10:17] <litropy> pplant^
[10:17] <pplant> litropy: okay. that's your card running out of video memory
[10:17] <david_> What's restricted manager?
[10:17] <pplant> what kind of video do you running?
[10:18] <litropy> NTSC
[10:18] <nnael> so can't get rid of the toolbar thing :/
[10:18] <jordo23> david_ it's the program the wiki says to install the drivers with...
[10:18] <nnael> affect
[10:18] <nnael> effect
[10:18] <pplant> ati, nvidia, intel, ?
[10:18] <litropy> nvidia
[10:18] <david_> oh ok
[10:18] <pplant> what model nvidia?
[10:18] <litropy> geforce fx I believe
[10:18] <david_> nvidia=evil
[10:18] <pplant> how much memory on the card?
[10:19] <litropy> I need to know how to do that, pplant
[10:19] <nnael> boy does the Opensource NV driver blow
[10:19] <jordo23> david_: ati = evil
[10:19] <nnael> full software rendering :/
[10:19] <david_> ati=satan nvidia=servile demons
[10:19] <nnael> and nvidia legacy thing crashed
[10:20] <jordo23> !nvidia
[10:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <pplant> litropy, what happens when you enable the default desktop effects built into feisty? (compiz)
[10:20] <dettoaltrimenti> ok, so I have sda1, 2, 3, and 4- when I type mount, only sda1 and 2 seem to be used: I'm guessing another one of them is the swap. Is there any way I can tell what they do?
[10:21] <pplant> dettoal: type "mount" by itself, or type "df"
[10:22] <litropy> checking, pplant
[10:22] <david_> how do you get to the main kcontrol panel?  I don't see it in the menu
[10:22] <david_> I actually think that's how I got my card fully working yesterday
[10:23] <litropy> pplant, I'm in Desktop - System Settings. What would you like for me to enable?
[10:23] <_4strO> david_: alt + F2 then kcontrol
[10:24] <pplant> oh sorry litropy you are running kde.. forgot
[10:24] <david_> thx 4strO
[10:24] <pplant> they didnt include the desktop effects in kubuntu
[10:24] <litropy> it's all good, pplant
[10:25] <pplant> my ubuntu has both gnome and kde installed
[10:25] <litropy> nice, pplant
[10:25] <pplant> it sucks actually... they clobber each other's settings. I am going to reinstall with just kubuntu tomorrow
[10:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> you having a problem with feisty?
[10:27] <pplant> no, feisty has been good to me so far, except for intermittent audio on my toshiba laptop
[10:27] <litropy> I am, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> im on a toshiba satellite- what's the audio problem
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> what's up, litropy
[10:27] <litropy> I get the white cube when starting beryl.
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> what kind of graphics card do you have
[10:27] <pplant> audio is quiet, flickering in and out between high and low volumes
[10:27] <litropy> not directly deisty...
[10:27] <sean__> lol glinfo crashes :P
[10:27] <litropy> nvidia
[10:28] <pplant> it worked fine under dapper and edgy
[10:28] <pplant> toshiba satellite A105
[10:28] <_roconnor> how do I stop KDE from autmatically mounting my usb drive partitions?
[10:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> pplant: have you looked at the settings in Sound System under system settings?
[10:29] <sean__> kubntu needs a tweakui :P
[10:29] <sean__> to turn off all the stupid animations in one place :/
[10:29] <pplant> yes. I am pretty sure it's a kernel problem. had this problem under herd 5, the march beta, ubuntu and kubuntu feisty
[10:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: do you have the correct drivers installed?
[10:31] <litropy> it's a GeForce FX 5200
[10:31] <litropy> 16 and 128 m
[10:32] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ how do I check that
[10:33] <MementoMori> !nvu
[10:33] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[10:33] <litropy> how do I get to my restricted devices manager? it's not listed in the menu the docs say it is.
[10:33] <david_> Okay.. I just downloaded a butt-load of driver tools for NVIDIA from Adept Manager... I'll let you know if it works or not.
[10:33] <MementoMori> !html
[10:33] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: see if you have the packages nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-glx
[10:35] <pplant> that 5200 is an older card, it might not have the beans to run beryl... but with 128mb it should...
[10:36] <pplant> it might be covered with the nvidia legacy drivers, which in my experience have been more reliable than the new ones
[10:36] <sean__> nvidia legacy causes glxinfo to crash :P
[10:36] <litropy> adept shows nothing nvidia, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:36] <sean__> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:37] <litropy> checking synaptic
[10:37] <david_> Hey pplant-- I got it to 1280x1024.  All I did was install a bunch of NVIDIA driver tool crap from adept and go back into monitor and display settings to change the hardware... Viola!  (And I added my monitor... )
[10:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy- no, stay in adept
[10:37] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- type in nvidia, and look at what you don't have installed. you need one of those drivers: don't ask me which one though, because I have no idea
[10:38] <pplant> sometimes that's all it takes david
[10:38] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_, adept shows nothing when searching for nvidia
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- the legacy drivers are for older chipsets, and nvidia-glx is for newer ones
[10:38] <david_> i hope you have better luck with your evil hardware.....
[10:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh litropy- do you have the extra repositories enabled?
[10:39] <litropy> probably not, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:39] <pplant> my hardware is fine... they broke the kernel!
[10:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> after you do that, hit 'fetch updates' and they should show up
[10:40] <litropy> reading and following, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- and like it says, you want the main, universe, multiverse, and restricted repositories
[10:41] <pplant> I have found that it really helps to have multiple linux boxes in the lab at the same time to troubleshoot these problems
[10:41] <root__> whether xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-vedio-savage is very essential package for os
[10:41] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> one sec
[10:41] <pplant> I don't think they put as much attention into kubuntu as they do into ubuntu
[10:42] <ferret_0567> How do I change the X server command line in KDM? I need to add "-dpi 96" to it
[10:43] <sivaji> !xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-vedio-savag
[10:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia about halfway down the page is the instructions for kubuntu- I know it's already installed, but it's probably just a matter of something that didn't download- just follow those instructions
[10:43] <sivaji> !xserver-xorg-video-all
[10:43] <sivaji> !startx
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <jussi01> hi all can someone tell me which option to choose? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17183/
[10:43] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:43] <jussi01> which one do i install??
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> doesn't really matter, jussi01
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> install all of them
[10:45] <_4strO> jussi01: sudo apt-get install qmake
[10:45] <sean__> how can i get rid of all window animation? :/
[10:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> there is no package 'qmake'
[10:47] <kipseron> somone can help me i install update from my kubuntu and stop the update in 80% and now i can get into the system someone can help finish the update from the live cd
[10:47] <kipseron> ?
[10:47] <kipseron> i am now in the live cd
[10:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> sean__ kmenu- system settings- appearance- style- uncheck "enable GUI effects"
[10:49] <_4strO> kipseron: now i can get into the system <-- what does it mean ?
[10:49] <sean__> 	error	Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:49] <sean__> yay
[10:49] <kipseron> can't
[10:49] <kipseron> no can
[10:49] <_4strO> yes
[10:49] <_4strO> but were you block ?
[10:50] <kipseron> i need to finish the update from the live cd
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> sean__ I don't know where that error came from, or if that means you need help, but you could download the nvidia driver from adept
[10:50] <kipseron> _4strO:
[10:50] <kipseron> so yoy can help me
[10:51] <kipseron> finish the update forom live cd
[10:51] <boyke> i got a message that my adept are running when i run add/remove program
[10:51] <boyke> what should i do?
[10:51] <_4strO> kipseron: perhaps i can help you, but not to finish the update from the live CD ...
[10:51] <darren> anyone used microsnot office 2007 in kubuntu ?
[10:51] <kipseron> konsole
[10:51] <kipseron> pkill adept
[10:52] <_4strO> boyke: close adept ?
[10:52] <kipseron> so what i need to do now
[10:52] <sivaji>  when i enter some website name my firefox browser terminated automatically
[10:52] <_4strO> kipseron: where you block ?
[10:52] <kipseron> i cant get into the kubuntu
[10:52] <_4strO> can you enter you login ?
[10:52] <kipseron> /dev/hdb1
[10:52] <kipseron> no
[10:52] <boyke> it said
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can you log into the terminal?
[10:53] <boyke> another process is using the package system database
[10:53] <kipseron> yes
[10:53] <kipseron> but i can run commands
[10:53] <ferret_0567> What's the error?
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can't run commands- what does it say when you try to run commands?
[10:53] <kipseron> when i type somthing it ask for password
[10:53] <kipseron> and i enter password
[10:53] <ferret_0567> Is adept, dpkg, aptitude, or apt-get running?
[10:53] <sivaji> !startx
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <boyke> please close the other application before using this one
[10:53] <kipseron> and its say it not right password
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- is synaptic or another adept running?
[10:53] <boyke> adept
[10:53] <boyke> installer
[10:53] <kipseron> i know what is startx but i cant do that
[10:54] <boyke> no
[10:54] <_4strO> how can you get a kpnsole kipseron?
[10:54] <boyke> i allready pkill adept at console
[10:54] <kipseron> what i start the system
[10:54] <kipseron> its give me errors
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- type sudo X, then tell me the error
[10:54] <kipseron> and after this i click ctrl+alt+f3
[10:54] <boyke> but its still gives me same message
[10:54] <kipseron> ok
[10:54] <kipseron> sex
[10:54] <kipseron> sec
[10:55] <sivaji> !
[10:55] <_4strO> boyke: ps -A | grep adept
[10:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- type 'less ps -e' and see if there are any programs running named adept or synaptic
[10:56] <boyke> ps: No such file or directory
[10:56] <boyke> -e: No such file or directory
[10:56] <_4strO> boyke: ps -A | grep adept
[10:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh yeah sorry, ps -A | grep adept
[10:57] <boyke> boyke@doeabelas:~$ ps -A | grep adept
[10:57] <boyke>  5781 ?        00:00:01 adept_installer
[10:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> sudo kill 5781
[10:57] <sean__> going to try restricted, see if it helps
[10:59] <boyke> now i cannot run my add/remove program
[10:59] <ferret_0567> dettoaltrimenti_: about your post at 03:46:58 AM, it's 'ps -e | less'
[10:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah thanks ferret
[11:00] <ferret_0567> boyke: run sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Just to get a error...
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Paste that into pastebin
[11:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> or you could just restart!
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Pfft
[11:00] <_4strO> lol
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Restart? Restart!?!?!?!
[11:00] <_4strO> windows solution
[11:01] <ferret_0567> Yup
[11:01] <athena> _4strO i have a question] 
[11:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> you _almost_ never need to restart in linux. sometimes it's just easier
[11:01] <kipseron> ok
[11:01] <kipseron> iu bac
[11:01] <boyke> boyke@doeabelas:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <boyke> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:01] <athena> _4strO is it possible to have a auto login?
[11:01] <_4strO> athena: !!! ;)
[11:01] <kipseron> i cant get konsole
[11:01] <_4strO> athena: did your soundsystem ok ?
[11:01] <kipseron> _4strO:
[11:01] <kipseron> i cant get console
[11:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- that's it, run the command dpkg -configure -a, and it will work after that
[11:01] <ferret_0567> then run dpkg --configure -a , like it said, boyke
[11:01] <athena> _4strO perfect
[11:01] <renato> mc
[11:01] <_4strO> ^^
[11:01] <athena> _4strO how are you?
[11:01] <ferret_0567> I trusted it when it said that
[11:02] <ferret_0567> It worked perfectly!
[11:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- what happens when you try to run the terminal?
[11:02] <ferret_0567> err...
[11:02] <kipseron> when i start the system
[11:02] <kipseron> its tell me error
[11:02] <kipseron> unknown stanza
[11:02] <kipseron> in event.d
[11:02] <boyke> dpkg: pilihan -o tak dikenal
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[11:02] <ferret_0567> boyke: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", without quotes, like the error said
[11:02] <boyke> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[11:02] <boyke> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[11:02] <kipseron> and after this more error
[11:02] <kipseron> and its stucks
[11:02] <_4strO> athena: auto login where ? in KDE ?
[11:02] <kipseron> stuck
[11:02] <ferret_0567> !flood | boyke
[11:02] <ubotu> boyke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <athena> _4strO gnome so i dont have to login
[11:03] <ferret_0567> 8 lines, wow
[11:03] <ferret_0567> Has that record been beaten already?
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> aha kipseron
[11:04] <_4strO> athena: K / system settings / advanced
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- are you on the live cd?
[11:04] <kipseron> yes
[11:04] <kipseron> i am on live cd
[11:04] <kipseron> i cant get into the system
[11:04] <athena> _4strO back in five
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can you mount your hard drive?
[11:04] <kipseron> yes
[11:04] <ferret_0567> boyke, did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[11:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok, so mount it
[11:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- mount it, then try this command 'sudo chroot /mnt(or whatever your HD is) apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken'
[11:06] <kipseron> ok
[11:06] <_4strO> kipseron: you get error message before the login screen exact ?
[11:06] <kipseron> my login screen dont exact
[11:07] <boyke> yes
[11:07] <boyke> i run sudo
[11:07] <boyke> but still error
[11:07] <_4strO> kipseron: sudo mkdir linuxtmp && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda* /linuxtmp
[11:07] <_4strO> where * is your partition number
[11:07] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke you did the dpkg configure command and there's still an error?
[11:07] <boyke> ya
[11:07] <kipseron> /dev/hdb1
[11:07] <_4strO> kipseron: ok
[11:08] <ferret_0567> Then, run sudo apt-get install firefox to test
[11:08] <_4strO> whatever
[11:08] <ferret_0567> ...again
[11:08] <kipseron> i think
[11:08] <kipseron> its work
[11:08] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes
[11:08] <kipseron> i think your way fix it
[11:08] <kipseron> sec
[11:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> awesome
[11:08] <kipseron> if you fix it for me you my god
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> hah- what country are you from?
[11:09] <kipseron> isreal
[11:09] <kipseron> =] 
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> cool- im form russia
[11:09] <kipseron> we have a lot from you in isreal
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh yes I know
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> I think there are no native english speakers in here
[11:10] <kipseron> you know russian
[11:10] <kipseron> ?
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes of course
[11:10] <kipseron> wow
[11:10] <kipseron> what a big
[11:10] <kipseron> upgrade
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> you know hebrew yes?
[11:10] <kipseron> sec back
[11:10] <kipseron> ok
[11:10] <sivaji> how to configure firefox for  java applet
[11:11] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- are you running Edgy or Feisty?
[11:11] <sivaji> feisty
[11:11] <ferret_0567> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[11:11] <ferret_0567> Then close firefox
[11:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes, that
[11:12] <ferret_0567> You can use Adept, and install the packages beginning with sun, if you want
[11:12] <athena> _4strO what do i have to do again?
[11:12] <nbcb> is there a tvuplayer  in linux?
[11:12] <ferret_0567> That's just a alternative way
[11:12] <_4strO> athena: K /system settings /
[11:12] <_4strO> athena: advanced
[11:13] <ferret_0567> nbcb: yes
[11:13] <nbcb> ferret_0567: what's the package name?
[11:13] <ferret_0567> Some KDE media player will do it
[11:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> nbcb a tv player? or is tvu something else
[11:13] <ferret_0567> I forget
[11:13] <_4strO> athena: ok ?
[11:13] <ferret_0567> kaffeine might do it
[11:14] <vbgunz> !compiz > vbgunz
[11:14] <athena> _4strO Cant find system settings
[11:14] <ferret_0567> I think it's kmplayer
[11:14] <nbcb> its a online tv streaming player on windows
[11:14] <_4strO> athena: you're on KDE right ?
[11:14] <ferret_0567> hmmm...
[11:14] <athena> _4strO GNOME
[11:14] <_4strO> haaaaaa
[11:14] <_4strO> sorry cant help with gnome :p
[11:14] <nbcb> !kmplayer
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <ferret_0567> athena: join #ubuntu
[11:14] <athena> _4strO OK COOL..
[11:15] <ferret_0567> !show kmplayer
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about show kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <nbcb> kmplayer is a tv streaming online player?
[11:15] <kipseron> i back
[11:15] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:15] <ferret_0567> no
[11:15] <ferret_0567> Maybe
[11:15] <kipseron> I KNOW HEBREW YES
[11:15] <kipseron> you know hebrew
[11:15] <ferret_0567> It plays streaming media
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh no, I am russian, I know russian
[11:15] <kipseron> you know 1 word in hebrew
[11:15] <kipseron> ?
[11:15] <ferret_0567> Not sure if it's compatible with your tv thingy
[11:16] <ferret_0567> Not sure about kaffeine either
[11:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> ya-weh is god, I think
[11:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> nbcb VLC may play it
[11:16] <kipseron> what the word
[11:17] <kipseron> ya-weh
[11:17] <kipseron> what is ya-weh
[11:17] <boyke> i already restart my pc but stikk u cannot run my add/remove program
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> god in hebrew, maybe?
[11:17] <kipseron> no
[11:17] <kipseron> its tov
[11:17] <kipseron> god
[11:17] <kipseron> you mean
[11:17] <boyke> i already restart my pc but still i cannot run my add/remove program
[11:17] <kipseron> you mean
[11:17] <kipseron> god or good
[11:17] <kipseron> ?
[11:17] <_4strO> mazel tov
[11:17] <kipseron> hh
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- did you already run the command 'sudo dpkg -configure -a'?
[11:17] <kipseron> tov its good in hebrew
[11:18] <kipseron> and god its alohim
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah mazel tov, mitzhvah
[11:18] <ferret_0567> You need to run that command in Konsole, boyke
[11:18] <kipseron> hhh
[11:18] <kipseron> lol
[11:18] <kipseron> hag sameah you know
[11:18] <kipseron> |?
[11:18] <kipseron> its happy holiday
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> now I know
[11:19] <lenscape> !real
[11:19] <boyke> -o its not recognizq
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> !offtopic
[11:19] <vbgunz> honestly, anyone know why Feisty is much faster than Edgy? I know it's a good thing but it is virtually very surprising how much quicker it is for me... wtf happened?
[11:19] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes kipseron
[11:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <kipseron> i think you fix my problem
[11:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:19] <boyke> -o its not recognize
[11:19] <kipseron> i love you] 
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> hah thanks
[11:20] <_4strO> boyke: .... -a ...
[11:21] <boyke> yes but it come up en error message said -o option unrecognize
[11:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- run the command and then put it all in the pastebin
[11:22] <_4strO> sudo dpkg -configure -a cant say -o is not reconized ...
[11:22] <boyke> yes
[11:22] <boyke> astro right
[11:22] <ferret_0567> Huh?
[11:22] <ferret_0567> That is weird!
[11:23] <boyke> hehehehehe
[11:23] <boyke> but its true
[11:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- try again, and copy it into the pastebin
[11:23] <_4strO> boyke: itsn't
[11:23] <bbm4n> i anyone experiencing system freezes with feisty?
[11:23] <boyke> sudo dpkg -configure -a right?
[11:24] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes boyke
[11:24] <boyke> dpkg: pilihan -o tak dikenal it is the result
[11:24] <boyke> in english it means -o its unrecognize
[11:25] <boyke> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, boyke
[11:25] <boyke> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> two dashes before configure
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thank
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:25] <_4strO> ^^
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> _4strO:
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks to you to
[11:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> I swear the first time I wrote it, both dashes were in there!
[11:26] <boyke> hehehehehe sorry my mistake
[11:26] <bbm4n> yesterday i upgraded to feisty and my system freezes like i have unplugged mouse/keyboard
[11:26] <boyke> yes it worked
[11:26] <boyke> thanks guys
[11:27] <_4strO> bbm4n: all the time ?
[11:27] <bbm4n> yes
[11:27] <boyke> can you explain why whould that happen?
[11:27] <bbm4n> no apparent reason
[11:27] <bbm4n> either  when i am surfing with firefox
[11:27] <bbm4n> or using kaffeine
[11:28] <bbm4n> or whatever
[11:28] <bbm4n> it hangs like for 20sec's totally
[11:28] <bbm4n> and then its back
[11:29] <boyke> i cannot install java on my kubuntu
[11:29] <bbm4n> i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/106728 this
[11:30] <sivaji> is there any gui based download manager for feisty
[11:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- Adept and Synaptic
[11:30] <_4strO> sivaji: kget
[11:30] <bbm4n> and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405993
[11:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, download manager
[11:31] <bbm4n> any ideas??
[11:32] <sivaji> E: Couldn't find package kget
[11:32] <_4strO> bbm4n: nop :/ did you do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[11:32] <_4strO> sivaji: you're on kde ?
[11:32] <sivaji> yes
[11:33] <_4strO> weird
[11:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji, do you have the universe repository enabled
[11:34] <bbm4n> _4strO: no i just used a pop up window asking me if i wanted to upgrade to kubuntu last version ( previously i had edgy )
[11:34] <sivaji> i dont know
[11:34] <litropy> not working out.
[11:34] <_4strO> bbm4n: then do
[11:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories follow the instructions there
[11:35] <litropy> I have all the visual effects disabled and it still goes white on me
[11:35] <bbm4n> _4strO: kk
[11:35] <litropy> still there pplant and/or dettoaltrimenti_?
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- after you do that, click on 'Fetch Updates' in adept (or sudo apt-get update) and look for it again
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy, what's up
[11:36] <boyke> why i cannot install java ??
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- are you getting an error message?
[11:36] <boyke> ya
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- ok, so what command did you type, and what error message are you getting
[11:36] <boyke> i've tried to install java almost for 5 hours
[11:37] <boyke> i use add/remove program
[11:37] <boyke> i choose internet
[11:37] <boyke> an sun java
[11:37] <bbm4n> _4strO: where are kde logs located? i could try and check if there are any error messages or something...
[11:38] <_4strO> bbm4n: /var/log
[11:38] <sivaji> dettoaltriment : thank u very much
[11:38] <bbm4n> thanks :)
[11:38] <nbcb> how to connect mplayer to localhost:8901 ?
[11:38] <nbcb> to stream it
[11:38] <boyke> error commiting changes posibly there was  a problem downloading some packages
[11:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> bbm4n- you could try in /var/log, the xorg logs (X windows)
[11:39] <boyke> or the commit would break packages.
[11:39] <litropy> still getting the white screen with cursor even with all visua;l effects off
[11:39] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ ^^^
[11:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- go to the terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-bin'
[11:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> and tell me what errors you get
[11:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy do you have beryl or compiz installed?
[11:40] <litropy> both, dettoaltrimenti_
[11:40] <litropy> kde is my default and my backup
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- do you want them? I personally don't use either
[11:41] <boyke> wow you are great
[11:41] <boyke> it worked
[11:41] <boyke> thanks
[11:41] <litropy> beryl or compiz? yes.
[11:41] <litropy> beryl is the reason why I'm getting the whoite screen
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> no problem boyke- I would suggest using the program Adept, instead of add/remove programs- it's better
[11:42] <boyke> ok
[11:42] <boyke> tks
[11:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- in the terminal, type in 'cat /etc/xorg.conf' and tell me what the last section is
[11:43] <boyke> i open java.com and verivy my installation
[11:43] <boyke> it come up with this message
[11:43] <boyke> You do NOT have the latest version of Java software.
[11:43] <boyke> The latest version of Java software = Java Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 1
[11:43] <boyke> oops
[11:43] <boyke> sorry flooding
[11:44] <iLeana> I boot in initramfs after updtate ... where do I take it hrom here ?
[11:44] <boyke> what should i do?
[11:45] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_: no such file or directory
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- are you trying to get java for a specific website, or program?
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy yeah sorry, I forgot where the file is, one sec
[11:45] <boyke> website
[11:45] <Vedo> hi
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- go to the website and it should say that you need the java plugin- if you're using feisty, and using firefox, you should be able to install it from there just like if you were in windows
[11:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> hi Vedo
[11:47] <boyke> what should i choose linux rpm or self extracting?
[11:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy after that, also in terminal type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me if it says Yes or No
[11:48] <Vedo> i've try to upgrade my distro (6.10) to new kubuntu 7.04 but upgrade tool crashed
[11:48] <Vedo> there are solution
[11:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo can you still log onto the computer
[11:49] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: you are italian?
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo in terminal type 'lsb_release -a' and tell me if it says you're running feisty... no, I'm russian, but I thought this was a nice name
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- self extracting
[11:51] <boyke> ok i try now
[11:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo you there?
[11:52] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: the output from lsb_release  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17189/
[11:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo ok before it crashed, it basically installed most of Feisty. Do you use Adept to install programs? is this your first time using kubuntu?
[11:55] <iLeana> I boot in initramfs after updtate ... where do I take it hrom here ?
[11:56] <Eyeless> how do i set the default soundcard (asoundconf seems not to work very well for me)
[11:56] <Vedo> use ubuntu - kubuntu  by 6.06 but it's the firt time i've do distro upgrade
[11:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- Kmenu- system config- sound system- hardware
[11:57] <litropy> same place as last time. did you get that cat path, dettoaltrimenti_?
[11:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo ok in terminal type 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and put in the pastebin please
[11:58] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: and then?
[11:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy sorry I didn't get it- in terminal type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me what it says
[11:58] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: i can select soundsystem there, but how do i go about to set the default soundcard
[12:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_default_soundcard tell me if that helps
[12:00] <Eyeless> will do, thanks
[12:00] <litropy> direct rendering: No
[12:00] <litropy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:00] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: asoundconf does not work :/
[12:00] <_4strO> litropy: wich type of video card ?
[12:01] <_4strO> nvidia or ATI ?
[12:01] <litropy> nvidia geforce fx 5200
[12:01] <litropy> 128M
[12:01] <_4strO> cant help sorry
[12:01] <Vedo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17191/
[12:01] <_4strO> never try on a box with nvidia
[12:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy- in terminal type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and add to the bottom "Section "Extensions"" and under that "Option "Composite" "Enable"" then under that "EndSection"
[12:02] <cesarb> http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/knetworkmanager/knetworkmanager_0.1-0ubuntu12_i386.deb is a broken file (full of zeroes), should I report on launchpad or will rsync take care of it next time the mirror is updated?
[12:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- then save, and ctrl-alt backspace to restart X
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy and sorry, leave out the outmost quotes, but include all other quotes I wrote
[12:03] <litropy> k
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- are you getting error messages with asoundconf?
[12:03] <_4strO> cesarb: think you have to wait
[12:04] <_4strO> many people seems to have pb with wireless and knetworkmanager so think thez are working on it
[12:04] <litropy> k dettoaltrimenti_ brb then
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- put the errors in the pastebin so I can see them
[12:05] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: nope, it just does what its told, and quits silently
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless so did you do it then restart and see if it worked?
[12:05] <Eyeless> only that when i reboot, it stil uses my built in soundcard as default
[12:06] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17191/
[12:06] <_4strO> Vedo: there is no error here
[12:06] <Eyeless> if i boot into windows first it uses my  SBLive sometimes which is weird
[12:08] <_StefanS_> hi there
[12:08] <Eyeless> im currently trying this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410263 , well see if it works
[12:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- you have feisty, tcongratulazioni
[12:09] <_4strO> Eyeless: if you want desactivate your onboard sound card, do it in the BIOS setting
[12:09] <_4strO> Vedo: lsb_release -a to be sure :)
[12:10] <johnt>  Does anyone know if ti is possible to get DRI on a SiS 760 chipset video card ?   (A.K.A Ati Mirage)
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> he did, it says Feisty. Same thing happened to me, but I ended up having to upgrade about 500 more packages
[12:10] <kgx> quite possibly the most wrong place to ask, but does anyone know of any c# or dotnet channels?
[12:11] <_StefanS_> kgx: #csharp
[12:11] <_4strO> !c
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <_StefanS_> kgx: #dotnet
[12:11] <kgx> tried that
[12:11] <kgx> empty
[12:11] <dettoaltrimenti_> hey _StefanS_ do you know any bash scripting channels?
[12:11] <_4strO> #bash
[12:11] <kgx> !mono
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: maybe I can help
[12:12] <_StefanS_> kgx: #c#
[12:13] <enotee> how do i edit sources.list
[12:13] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: but the upgrade tool crached!
[12:13] <_4strO> enotee: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <kgx> StefanS_: thanks
[12:14] <kgx> :)
[12:14] <johnt>  Does anyone know if it is possible to get DRI on a SiS 760 chipset video card ?   (A.K.A Ati Mirage) currently I get 12 fps wow
[12:15] <Eyeless> Vedo: did the upgradetool crash on you while upgrading to feisty?
[12:16] <Vedo> Eyeless: yes
[12:16] <Eyeless> and now everyting is locked?
[12:16] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: lucky bastard :D
[12:16] <Vedo> no the distro work ok
[12:17] <Eyeless> Vedo: i mean the repositories, so you cant run adept, aptitude and so on
[12:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- if adept doesn't work you can type in the terminal 'dpkg --configure -a' and that should fix it
[12:18] <Eyeless> dont forget sudo
[12:18] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: hey I forgot to mention i needed to do dpkg --configure -a to complete the upgrade ;)
[12:19] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: so it wasnt completely flawless
[12:19] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: ok thanks i test the distro for 3-4 day
[12:19] <johnt> is adept better than apt??
[12:19] <[M] onaro800> Well i must admit more people here than i thaught
[12:19] <_StefanS_> johnt: nope I dont think so
[12:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- congratulations- kubuntu is awesome. If you have trouble understanding us, you can ask for help in #kubuntu-it
[12:19] <_StefanS_> johnt: but to some more conveinient
[12:19] <johnt> Is it just new then??
[12:19] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: if you have javadocs installed its hell, both adept and the upgrade tool crashes when trying to install those
[12:20] <dromer> hmm, I just safely removed my usb-camera,then made some pics, now when I hook it up again, there is no auto-mount, and I can't mount it myself (mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device), lsusb does absolutely nothing (meaning: hangs and gives no output)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: ok, you should just go straigt to the commandline then :)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> straight even
[12:20] <_StefanS_> anyone know how to install the java bundle from sun ? with netbeans and stuff?
[12:20] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: yupps, took a while to figure out thats all :P
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- sda is probably your root drive, look in /dev and there might be an sdb
[12:20] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: use aptitude
[12:20] <q1w2e3r4> somebody may help me how to use an internet-connection of a windows-network?
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: or synaptic
[12:21] <Eyeless> you have to dl some files from sun and put into /tmp
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: or whatever :)
[12:21] <johnt> How more conveinient than "apt-get update"??
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: matter of preference
[12:21] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: but howcome lsusb hangs? it does totally nothing
[12:21] <_StefanS_> johnt: some users is scared of commandline, thats all
[12:21] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: there is no sdb
[12:21] <johnt> Oh OK so it is point and click!
[12:22] <_StefanS_> johnt: exactly
[12:22] <johnt> Thx
[12:22] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: well i havent used synaptic a lot so i dunno how well it does when the packageinstaller starts asking questions and all that
[12:22] <_StefanS_> johnt: I prefer apt-get/dpkg any time
[12:22] <johnt> Me too
[12:22] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: I dont know what the difference between aptitude and apt-get is, but apt-get has always worked for me
[12:23] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: aptitude is the new apt-get i beleive
[12:23] <litropy> still there, dettoaltrimenti_ ?
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: uhm, ok.. well if the old one still works, then...  :D
[12:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- try to mount sda1
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: you wouldn't happen to have netbeans installed ?
[12:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy yes, did you give it a try?
[12:23] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: i do
[12:23] <litropy> Well, that caused problems. I got errors upon boot
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: from the ubuntu repos?
[12:24] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[12:24] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: ah.. netbeans5.5-platform ;)
[12:24] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: yep, i installed it by hand earlier, but the one from the repos was easy :P
[12:24] <_StefanS_> I see, i'm installing it now
[12:24] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ I can't remember what they said exactly, but I think it was from ttyl or something like that
[12:25] <litropy> and I got prompted to login after I tried hitting esc and things like that
[12:25] <litropy> thing is, it wouldn't accept the login
[12:25] <litropy> not even root
[12:26] <litropy> anyhow, I gotta delete those lines so I can get back into linux
[12:26] <litropy> I'm on the osx partition now.
[12:26] <litropy> where is the file again?
[12:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy hmm, try googling for help, I know that you need to make that say 'direct rendering: yes' when you type glxinfo | grep direct
[12:27] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: maybe you need the linux-restricted-drivers
[12:27] <_StefanS_> hmm maybe not, when I come to think of it
[12:27] <litropy> okay. but I need to modify the file back to what it was
[12:28] <litropy> so I can boot into linux
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's not me, it's litropy. Maybe you can help him, _StefanS_?
[12:28] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: oh sorry :)
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy sorry, can you log into the terminal and change the xorg.conf back to what it was?
[12:28] <_StefanS_> litropy: you will not be able to log in directly as root, so thats normal.
[12:28] <litropy> yeah, I need the file path, though
[12:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- the file path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <_StefanS_> litropy: you can also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:31] <_StefanS_> litropy: configure X using a neat gui
[12:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ - if he is having problems with beryl, and he's using nvidia, does aiglx matter?
[12:32] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: well yes because AFAIK nvidia supports AIGLX directly
[12:32] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/
[12:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah, when he types glxinfo | grep direct, it turns up Direct rendering: no, and I told him to add a few lines to xorg.conf. That's the right thing to do, right
[12:32] <litropy> weird - no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[12:32] <_StefanS_> litropy: just generate a new one
[12:33] <_StefanS_> litropy: using the command I gave you
[12:33] <litropy> _StefanS_: sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
[12:33] <litropy> I'm in OSX by the way
[12:33] <_StefanS_> litropy: you're in OSX?
[12:33] <litropy> until I can get linux to boot again
[12:33] <johnt> Do the people who are helping litropy know there are a number of nvidia drivers in the gui synaptic package manager?/ Seach GLX
[12:34] <_StefanS_> litropy: oh, ok
[12:34] <_StefanS_> johnt: nvidia-glx yes
[12:34] <johnt> OK
[12:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- can you do a 'safe boot' and get to a terminal?
[12:34] <_StefanS_> litropy: see if there's a backup of the previous xorg.conf somewhere
[12:34] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: he should.
[12:34] <SuperSub> can anyone help me with enlightenment?
[12:35] <litropy> how do I safe boot
[12:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ can he chroot from osx?
[12:35] <dromer> and can someone else help me with my usb-issue? ;)
[12:35] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: hmm yes actually you should be able to do that
[12:35] <litropy> yep
[12:35] <litropy> why what do I do with it
[12:35] <_StefanS_> but its far easier just to boot in failsafe mode and let the gui fix xorg.conf
[12:36] <litropy> okay how do I do that
[12:36] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: in terms of supporting ;)
[12:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> gui? without xorg.conf, he can only get to a terminal
[12:36] <_StefanS_> litropy: esc when in grub, and then select the failsafe kernel
[12:36] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: its an ncurses gui
[12:36] <litropy> okay, how I know when I'm in grub
[12:37] <jussi01> can someone tell me how to rename samba shares on the desktop? itried the normal renaming but they just flick back to what they were?
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: when the message about you can press esc shows
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: then you got 5 secs to
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: do it
[12:37] <litropy> k
[12:37] <litropy> brb
[12:37] <sobersabre> hi
[12:38] <sobersabre> is there a work done to make kde4 for feisty ?
[12:38] <sobersabre> is it avail ?
[12:38] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: you can download a snapshot, but its not really capable of anything useful yet.
[12:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what's the error you're getitng again? when you try to mount it?
[12:39] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: if you just want to try it, I believe there's a kde4 livecd somewhere
[12:39] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: with sda it's: mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device  and with sda1: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist, also: I can't do lsusb
[12:40] <sobersabre> _StefanS_: what is kde4 currently capable of ?
[12:40] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[12:40] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: nothing that a regular users would really see. Most of it is still very much alpha
[12:41] <sobersabre> is it working with SVG icons etc. ?
[12:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what does your fstab say about sda?
[12:41] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: yes I believe so. If you want the icons you can snatch them, and use them in kde 3.5.6
[12:42] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: check that livecd and see for yourself
[12:42] <sobersabre> _StefanS_: ok, many thanks for this one.
[12:42] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: hmm, nothing, but just before this I could automount my camera just fine ..
[12:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- can you put your fstab in the pastebin so I can look at it
[12:44] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17197/
[12:44] <litropy> weird
[12:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- your mtab, too?
[12:45] <litropy> anyhow, it's a message from tty1 - failure to load microcode.fw
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh wait dromer, no need
[12:45] <dromer> oh, ok :)
[12:45] <litropy> or something that looks like that but a bit more verbose
[12:45] <litropy> erm... I don't see a grub message anywhere
[12:45] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: neway: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17198/  :P
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what's the mount point that it used to automatically mount to?
[12:46] <dromer> /media/usbdisk
[12:46] <_StefanS_> litropy: dont you have a terminal now ?
[12:46] <litropy> I get the oddly-colored kubuntu load screen (it's just a graphic with a load bar on a black screen)
[12:47] <litropy> and then the error msg begins
[12:47] <litropy> so I'm still in osx
[12:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- there should be a few choices on your grub screen- try a different one
[12:47] <litropy> I do not get a grub screen
[12:47] <litropy> I see no choices during my bootup
[12:47] <litropy> and I usually doon't
[12:47] <_StefanS_> litropy: well you need to be a bit faster then
[12:48] <_StefanS_> litropy: hit escape after it reboots continually
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> litropy: if you don't dual boot then you should get a message to press esc for grub menu.
[12:48] <_StefanS_> litropy: should get you in the boot menu then
[12:48] <litropy> I mean I honestly don't get options during bootup. I'm using yaboot
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- I don't see any evidence of the camera auto mounting... but it seems like it might one one of those hda devices, type 'mount' and see what's already mounted, then try to mount hda3,hda4,hda5 all those
[12:49] <litropy> I get the choice between os x, linux, or cdrom
[12:49] <icecruncher> anyboy know how to create a symlink?
[12:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy ok, do you know how to use chroot?
[12:49] <dromer> icecruncher: ln
[12:49] <paolo> hi. how can i pipe the STDERR of process1 to stdin of process2? thnks
[12:49] <litropy> no. dettoaltrimenti_
[12:49] <dromer> icecruncher: actually: ln -s
[12:49] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: what do you mean by that last bit?
[12:49] <icecruncher> k
[12:49] <_StefanS_> paolo: 2>&1
[12:49] <icecruncher> thanks
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ I think you know more than me... can he chroot into linux from OSX, then just create the xorg.conf file from there
[12:50] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: yes he can
[12:50] <dromer> icecruncher: do $ man ln
[12:50] <icecruncher> yep
[12:50] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: although he needs the environment sourced
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer try sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/usbdisk etc
[12:50] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: /dev/hda3 is already mounted
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ can you tell him how to do it? I don't know the exact commands
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer ok, type 'mount'- and pastebin that
[12:50] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: and why would I want to mount it to /media/usbdisk ?
[12:51] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17199/
[12:51] <paolo> _StefanS_: should i exec:    ./program1 2>&1 ./program2 ?
[12:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- isn't that where you want the camera mounted?
[12:51] <_StefanS_> paolo: ./program1 2>&1 | ./program2
[12:52] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: yet, but what does it have to do with hda3 ?
[12:52] <icecruncher> dromer: so a symlink for konsole to autostart would be how? ln -s /pathto/konsole ~/.kde/Autostart?
[12:52] <dromer> icecruncher: sorry, haven't used symlinks in a while :P (well I use em, but haven't made any)
[12:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- ok, so what device is the camera, it's not sda, and you said there's no sdb
[12:52] <icecruncher> dromer: np
[12:53] <paolo> thnks _StefanS_
[12:53] <_StefanS_> paolo: np
[12:53] <_StefanS_> np even
[12:53] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: I don't know what device, I still think it's weird I an't do lsusb though, that just totally freezes bash
[12:53] <dromer> can't*
[12:53] <_StefanS_> litropy: chroot <hd mountpoint> /bin/bash
[12:54] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: all I know is it should be sda
[12:54] <litropy> hmm
[12:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- did you upgrade recently to feisty?
[12:55] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: nope, still edgy, don't plan to upgrade in a while ;)
[12:55] <litropy> well, bin is right at root
[12:55] <litropy> so would that be my mount point?
[12:56] <_StefanS_> I dont know...
[12:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer hmmm I'm not sure... you could check to see if ntfs-3g is installed, but I don't see why it wouldn't be
[12:56] <_StefanS_> litropy: you need to mount the linux hd somewhere and then use that directory in the chroot
[12:57] <litropy> it's just a separate partition
[12:57] <litropy> trying to think...
[12:57] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: I wouldn't know what ntfs-3g would have to do with it
[12:58] <litropy> chroot /Volumes/Entropy
[12:58] <litropy> chroot: /Volumes/Entropy: Operation not permitted
[12:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer well most cameras run FAT or ntfs, not ext3, but I have another idea- type 'dmesg | grep usb'
[12:59] <_StefanS_> litropy: use sudo
[12:59] <sylvisj> Ok, so I need some help
[12:59] <sylvisj> when trying to compile an app from source
[12:59] <sylvisj> wait.. nvm
[12:59] <sylvisj> i just fixed it somehow
[12:59] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[01:00] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: and hello again
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/Volumes adam$ sudo chroot /Volumes/Entropy
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/ root# /bin/bash
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/ root#
[01:00] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17201/
[01:00] <litropy> I won't scroll more than 3 lines
[01:00] <litropy> it's quiet here
[01:01] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: Hi. yeah, I know that much :P was giving me weird errors that installing build-essential fixed
[01:01] <sylvisj> I'm trying to remember everything I needed in my gentoo days
[01:02] <puppetmaster> Hi Everyone
[01:02] <puppetmaster> I'm having problems with a rar file?
[01:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- hmm not sure what the problem is
[01:02] <puppetmaster> When I enter unrar e command
[01:03] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: and then ?
[01:03] <puppetmaster> it gave me this message
[01:03] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: yeah, maybe someone else can help here ..
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Extracting  750.wmv                                                   96%
[01:03] <puppetmaster> 750.wmv              - CRC failed
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Unexpected end of archive
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Total errors: 2
[01:03] <puppetmaster> So, what should I do?
[01:04] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: download it again
[01:04] <sylvisj> ...
[01:04] <puppetmaster> oh my god
[01:04] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: cause its corrupted.
[01:04] <sylvisj> hahahahaha
[01:04] <puppetmaster> it's 400 mb
[01:04] <sylvisj> downloading warez movies ftl
[01:04] <puppetmaster> Is there any other solution
[01:04] <sylvisj> puppetmaster: download manager
[01:04] <sylvisj> puppetmaster: use one next time. Start downloading :)
[01:05] <puppetmaster> thanks anyway
[01:05] <reiki> ok... I installed Kubuntu last night. I can't get my Epson R200 installed. It's not in the list of printers in the add printer wizard. Works great under gnome, but I'd like to try KDE. Anyone got a clue for me?
[01:07] <q1w2e3r4> May someone help me with knetworkmanager on feisty?
[01:07] <q1w2e3r4> How can i import this settings?: http://nopaste.info/fc7429bedf.html
[01:16] <szczurek> Hi
[01:16] <kaiser> hi
[01:17] <kaiser> i need help...is there some kind of linux software which can scan my registry in search of errors?
[01:17] <szczurek> sory i can nothelp
[01:17] <szczurek> i am begin usr
[01:17] <kaiser> :)
[01:18] <szczurek> from are you ??
[01:18] <szczurek> bay ;)
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> Noone time to help me?
[01:20] <rumen> hello
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> hi
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> may u help me with knetworkmanager? im trying to use an internetconnection of a windows-network
[01:20] <rumen> Can anyone enlighten me how to fix these darn ati drivers?
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> This is the configuration of the network on a windows-machine: http://nopaste.info/fc7429bedf.html
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> This is my conf: http://nopaste.info/a1702f6837.html
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> But i dont get a connection :-D
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> how do I use sed to remove every line in a txt file that has a semicolon at the end of the line?
[01:31] <ernst> q1w2e3r4: can you be more specific about the error you get
[01:32] <q1w2e3r4> ernst: Thats the thing i dontknow. There iss just no connection
[01:32] <q1w2e3r4> eth0 is working but i dont have a connection to the internet
[01:32] <scarvell> i need someone who can help me on an apache2 + mod_rewrite issue
[01:33] <ernst> what have you already tried to get a connection
[01:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> q1w2e3r4- what are you using to connect to the internet- cable, dsl, dialup? wireless or hardwired
[01:33] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: reboot fixed it <_<
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer sweet
[01:34] <dromer> not relaly, I hate to reboot <_<
[01:34] <q1w2e3r4> LAN Connection, should reach a dsl-router
[01:34] <JuJuBee> How do I get a route to remain in my routing table after a restart?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> q1w2e3r4 so are you saying the computer says you are connected, but you can't use the internet?
[01:35] <q1w2e3r4> Well, at least the Knetworkmanager finds any activity on eth0
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> with dsl modems you have to use pppoe (you should have a name and a password) and you need to install pppoeconf for it to work
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> no dsl-modem
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> LAN-Connection
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> i wanna use the active connection of an internetcafe
[01:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> and there is no name and password you need to use?
[01:38] <q1w2e3r4> yeah, thats right
[01:46] <peer> hii!
[01:46] <peer> ich hab da mal ne frage
[01:46] <peer> mein ssh sagt stndig permission denied. Obwohl ich zu 100% das richtige PW eingebe? Wisst ihr was das sein knnte?
[01:47] <Tm_T> !de | peer
[01:47] <ubotu> peer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:47] <Tm_T> peer: english here thanks
[01:47] <peer> : (
[01:48] <Timsen> peer just enter a /join #kubuntu-de
[01:50] <JuJuBee> Can someone tell me how to enter a permanent route in my routing table?
[02:16] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[02:22] <myky> all: hi i install feista now and i have problem my konqueror dont load internet page :( known anyone where is problem?
[02:23] <msoeken> i heard that aiglx is enabled by default in feisty. is that true?
[02:28] <snap> my add remove programs seems hung up trying to add scribus.....how do i kill the task?
[02:30] <stuart_> snap - start system guard, find the adept process and click the kill button
[02:30] <snap> thx....
[02:31] <stuart_> kdemenu->system>ksysguard
[02:31] <snap> ahh im in gnome
[02:32] <stuart_> sorry
[02:32] <snap> ahh there it is found it
[02:37] <fatmike> hi room
[02:38] <fatmike> i hav a question
[02:38] <fatmike> how can i display the timestamps in dmesg an log file to a human readable one?
[02:38] <fatmike> on my system is is displayed as: [ 4219.772000]  usb 4-5: USB disconnect, address 4
[02:38] <fatmike> for example
[02:56] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[02:56] <M_Fatih> how can i add mp3 support to kaffeine cd encoder?
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:02] <busfahrer> Anybody here using the mplayerthumbs addon?
[03:12] <markc> would anyone happen to know what the xorg equiv of /usr/X11R6/include is ?
[03:12] <M_Fatih> how can i rip my audio cd to mp3 ?
[03:14] <goldenear> M_Fatih: with konqueror I guess... juste look in the mp3 "virtual" directory in you audio CD
[03:15] <M_Fatih> o shit. it's great
[03:15] <M_Fatih> :)
[03:18] <busfahrer> markc: Have you tried /usr/include/X11
[03:18] <markc> busfahrer, thanks, that seems like a good call :)
[03:19] <markc> busfahrer, especially after installing libx11-dev, that helps too
[03:24] <BluesKaj> hey gents, I recently had to reinstall Feisty on / (hda2). However, the /home partition (hda3) , gives me errors at bootup, then proceeds to check the partition, then goes back to the prompt,where I have to exit from it in order to boot into kubuntu ...how do i find what the errors are in hda3 to correct them ?
[03:26] <aldin> BluesKaj: you could do this: in /etc/fstab -> /dev/hda3       /home    ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:26] <aldin> BluesKaj: before that comment the "uuid" line
[03:27] <BluesKaj> ok aldin , I'l give that a try...thx
[03:31] <jussi01> is there a manual way i can check for updates? like update manager on gnome?
[03:33] <Lynoure> jussi01: at least sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <Lynoure> jussi01: that pops up an adept for you if anything new is there.
[03:33] <jussi01> oh, ok...
[03:33] <Zero|Basti> hallo, kann mir villeicht kurz jemand mitphp helfen?
[03:33] <Lynoure> (or adept applett, I meant)
[03:34] <scarvell> can anyone help me with enabling mod_rewrite?
[03:34] <scarvell> i have enabled it
[03:34] <Lynoure> Zero|Basti: Sorry, I do not speak German that well and this is not a php coding channel, try on #kubuntu-de if it is about Kubuntu or #php for php
[03:35] <scarvell> and changed /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[03:35] <Zero|Basti> ok, thank you
[03:35] <scarvell> and set Allowoverride All
[03:35] <scarvell> however
[03:35] <scarvell> when i restart apache
[03:35] <scarvell> i get "Forbidden"
[03:35] <scarvell> anywhere i go on it
[03:35] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: ask in english if you want
[03:35] <scarvell> if i change it back to None
[03:35] <scarvell> and restart the server its fine
[03:35] <scarvell> :/
[03:35] <scarvell> WHY?!
[03:35] <scarvell> :(
[03:36] <Zero|Basti> i think my english is too bad to explain it in english
[03:36] <jussi01> !enter | scarvell
[03:36] <ubotu> scarvell: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:36] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: ok
[03:36] <Lynoure> Zero|Basti: you can always try. :) No harm trying
[03:36] <scarvell> sorry
[03:37] <scarvell> i been at this for 4 hours now
[03:37] <scarvell> and its late
[03:38] <Zero|Basti> ok...i have a html file which has an input and it shoul have an output.  there should be a php file which calculates. at the moment, i can display the result in the php file but not give it back to the html formua
[03:39] <scarvell> some help channel...
[03:40] <jussi01> scarvell: im sorry but this place is dead right now
[03:40] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: just include your html file in the php file
[03:40] <scarvell> and why cant any of you guys here help?
[03:40] <jussi01> scarvell: If i could help I would, but I am reasonably unfamiliar with apache
[03:41] <scarvell> ok
[03:41] <_4strO> scarvell: are you sure your url rewriting didn't work ?
[03:41] <jussi01> scarvell: probably because most of the people leave themselves logged in, even when they are not here
[03:41] <scarvell> _4strO: yes
[03:41] <scarvell> well
[03:42] <Zero|Basti> hm i have this in my table data (for example):<input type="text" name="wafver" size=3 maxlength=3>
[03:42] <scarvell> ok, so basically i edit 000-default and i set the Allowoveride to All
[03:42] <Zero|Basti> then i click at submit and gan operate whith these variables in my php file
[03:42] <scarvell> like the tutorials say, however once i do that and restart the server. I get nothing but "Forbidden" on the webserver no matter where i go
[03:43] <Zero|Basti> but i dont' know how i can give back the result to my html
[03:43] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: many ways are possible
[03:44] <Werty> HI
[03:44] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: look at the header function
[03:45] <Werty> So who do you think will win the EPL?
[03:45] <_4strO> EPL ?
[03:46] <marcreichelt> hi there
[03:46] <marcreichelt> how can I configure a VPN with KNetworkManager?
[03:48] <marcreichelt> I've installed 'network-manager-vpnc', but if I click on 'Configure VPN' in KNetworkManager, nothing happens
[03:48] <Zero|Basti> hm i don't know what you mean with look at the header funktion
[03:49] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: in the php website
[03:51] <Aurvandill> My external HD used to show up properly. Now it shows up as an empty directory. If I turn it off and on, it asks me if I want to open it. When I do, it appears to be empty.
[03:52] <Aurvandill> What might be wrong? I used some program to mount all my partitions automatically, which is when it stopped showing its content.
[03:55] <marcreichelt> is it possible to start KNetworkManager in a 'debug' mode?
[03:55] <kenda> hola
[03:55] <marcreichelt> if so, perhaps I can see what problem occurs
[03:55] <BluesKaj> aldin , no luck ...comenting the uuid line in fstab merely withdrew access to /home
[03:56] <Zero|Basti> sry, i don't know what i have to serch for...
[03:56] <aldin> BluesKaj: didi u add line i gave u?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:57] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: http://www.php.net/manual/de/function.header.php
[03:57] <Zero|Basti> ok, thx
[03:57] <Kubuntu> Is it any good Wireless ntework managers for Kubuntu?
[03:57] <Skrot> Kubuntu: knetworkmanager
[03:57] <aldin> BluesKaj: UUID=404114f9-c300-436a-80b1-33cb487f5ad0 /media/hda9     ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:57] <BluesKaj> the error says that hda3 /home doesn't have apt installed and it seems to be checking for a bash shell
[03:58] <Kubuntu> Knetworkmanager won't let me choose over a list of networks.
[03:58] <Skrot> uh
[03:58] <Skrot> It does here
[03:58] <BluesKaj> aldin, hda9 ?
[03:58] <aldin> BluesKaj: thats mine... just sec
[03:58] <marcreichelt> hmm
[03:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:59] <marcreichelt> 'knetworkmanager --nofork' does not give any information
[03:59] <marcreichelt> and -v also is not useful
[04:00] <aldin> BluesKaj: before -> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/17214/ after -> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/17215/
[04:02] <marcreichelt> ahh!
[04:03] <marcreichelt> I have looked in the source-code, and found out that KNetworkManager starts a process 'nm-vpn-properties' for this
[04:03] <icecruncher> is there any site with like cool software foor linux noods, either essential or recoomended...?
[04:03] <marcreichelt> then I tried to start that one from a shell
[04:04] <marcreichelt> "The program 'nm-vpn-properties' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[04:06] <gan|y|med> hi
[04:07] <HumpBack> Hello
[04:07] <dbedana> shhhh
[04:07] <gan|y|med> i wanna mount my external hard drive with udv etc. it works, but it assigns different dirs each time the partitions get mounted. so i added them to fstab, but now it doesn't get mounted at all
[04:07] <icecruncher> dbedana?
[04:07] <icecruncher> what?
[04:07] <HumpBack> Under feisty when I connect a USB<->RS232 adapter to my laptop brltty gets started
[04:08] <dbedana> ^^
[04:08] <HumpBack> usb 2-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1
[04:08] <HumpBack> [  865.744000]  ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[04:08] <HumpBack> [  865.748000]  ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: device disconnected
[04:08] <HumpBack> How do i remove this?
[04:08] <HumpBack> So that i can use the serial port
[04:09] <_4strO> !ntfs
[04:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:09] <_4strO> !ntfs-3g
[04:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:10] <dbedana> how do i change channel?
[04:11] <icecruncher> dbedana: "/join #channel"
[04:11] <dbedana> can u give me a cool channel to go to
[04:12] <marcreichelt> dbedana: /join #kubuntu
[04:12] <marcreichelt> ;)
[04:12] <dbedana> awtz, hehe
[04:12] <dbedana> ill try
[04:13] <gan|y|med> i do not want to use the mount command or have devices on my desktop. how can i make them be recognised by udev??? (it worked it edgy)
[04:13] <reiki_work> where is a good place to go to learn my way around in KDE? I have been using Ubuntu (gnome) since 2005, but I get lost in KDE
[04:13] <apokryphos> !search userguide
[04:13] <ubotu> Found: kdeguide
[04:14] <apokryphos> !kdeguide | reiki_work
[04:14] <ubotu> reiki_work: See http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/index.html for a guide to using KDE
[04:14] <Skrot> reiki_work: Or just play around with it for a while, and ask when you're stuck
[04:14] <reiki_work> thanks... apokryphos you're here too? :)  you're EVERYWHERE
[04:14] <Doctor_Nick> why does azureus and ktorrent crash every time I try to download a torrent with a large number of files
[04:16] <dbedana> ?join 100 channel
[04:16] <reiki_work> Skrot: I'm still at a stage where I don't know where to look for teh update notifier icon, the add printer wizard opened but it didn't have my Epson R200 in the list so I had to use teh cup admin web thing to install a printer... I can't find the proprietary software manager like in gnome...
[04:17] <reiki_work> I haven't installed the nvidia drivers yet, hehehe... I feel like I'm starting over! :)
[04:17] <Skrot> reiki_work: The update notifier icon will present itself in the system tray when there are updates avalible, usually found in the bottom right corner
[04:18] <danb> hehe
[04:18] <gan|y|med> ok, how do i get udev to mount my partitions automatically WITH an entry in fstab???
[04:19] <Skrot> reiki_work: Regarding the proprietary software installer I don't know, since I haven't installed feisty yet because my hard drive is dead :p
[04:21] <_4strO> !ntfs
[04:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:22] <_4strO> !ntfs-3g
[04:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:23] <gan|y|med> is this for me?
[04:24] <marcreichelt> btw, is there a log file for the NetworkManager?
[04:24] <ubuntu> Hello all.
[04:24] <marcreichelt> the WPA network from my university does not work, and I would like to now why
[04:25] <gan|y|med> does nobody know how to make the automounter recognise my external partitions and somehow convince it to mount them at the exact same place each time i plug in the device
[04:25] <gan|y|med> ?
[04:25] <ubuntu> I have Kubuntu 7.04 running and I'd like to have my Computer, Trash icon etc on the desktop.  How do I do this, I can't find any options?
[04:26] <Doctor_Nick> GDSAGSADGASDG
[04:26] <_4strO> no doubt Doctor_Nick
[04:27] <cibershop> hola
[04:27] <cibershop> en espanol?
[04:27] <Doctor_Nick> no
[04:28] <cibershop> beryl con kubuntu
[04:28] <Doctor_Nick> cibershop: #ubuntu-es
[04:28] <jussi01> !es | cibershop:
[04:28] <ubotu> cibershop:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:28] <cibershop> ok
[04:28] <cibershop> gracias
[04:28] <cibershop> good bye
[04:28] <Doctor_Nick> no prob bob
[04:30] <Ikawe> can anyone help me with chinese input?
[04:30] <icecruncher> is there any site with like cool software foor linux noods, either essential or recoomended...?
[04:30] <jussi01> !ch
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Ikawe> !zh
[04:30] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:31] <Ikawe> but im not looking for help in Chinese.
[04:31] <Ikawe> im looking for help inputting chinese
[04:31] <jussi01> Ikawe: you speak chinese?
[04:32] <otaku42> trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on an acer travelmate 2483 fails for me. if i choose manual partioning, the installer quits after clicking on next. if i choose "use largest free space", it quits after i entered my name etc. this can be reproduced.
[04:32] <otaku42> is that a known problem? at least on https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems it's obviously not mentioned.
[04:32] <otaku42> hints welcome.
[04:33] <jussi01> otaku42: have you checked the md5 of the iso/disk?
[04:33] <otaku42> jussi01: not yet, but will do so now. reboot with the "check cd" option from the boot menu is enough?
[04:34] <jussi01> otaku42: also what speed did you burn at? you might have a dud disk...
[04:34] <jussi01> otaku42: i would check the md5 of the iso you burnt from
[04:35] <otaku42> jussi01: burning speed was 10x, i burnt the image on a cd-rw (with nero on a windows box). nero checked the resulting cd and found no obvious error, btw.
[04:36] <fladd> hi there, can anyone tell me, how to make mounted drives to appear on the desktop
[04:37] <jussi01> fladd: mount them in fstab
[04:37] <jussi01> !fstab
[04:37] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:37] <fladd> they aree mounted
[04:37] <fladd> I can access them already in konqueror
[04:37] <otaku42> jussi01: md5sum of the iso is correct, now checking via boot menu
[04:38] <jussi01> fladd: sorry, right click on the desktop and configure
[04:38] <fladd> jussi01: i did that, but nothing changes, thats the problem actually :-)
[04:38] <jussi01> then behaviour and device icons tab
[04:39] <jussi01> fladd: so you slected mounted hard disk ?
[04:39] <fladd> jussi01: yeah, the "show mounted harddisks" and "show unmounted harddisks" are both ticked
[04:39] <jussi01> and clicked apply?
[04:39] <fladd> yes
[04:40] <jussi01> try logging out?
[04:40] <marcreichelt> ah
[04:40] <marcreichelt> the log entries of NetworkManager are in /var/log/daemon.log :-)
[04:40] <fladd> okay, hang on
[04:41] <Ace2016> Anyone know any mouseconfig apps, i need to turn on horizontal scrolling
[04:41] <Ace2016> ?
[04:41] <Ace2016> I can't scroll horizontally :(
[04:41] <Ace2016> its an Acrox mouse with a ball instead of a scroll wheel
[04:42] <jussi01> yeah there is one for synaptic touchpads, but i cant remember the name of it...
[04:42] <jussi01> oh
[04:42] <jussi01> hi fladd
[04:42] <fladd> jussi01: yeah, there we are! guess it was just too easy :-) thanks
[04:42] <jussi01> hehe, np
[04:44] <wolferine> when using Gparted Live, are you able to resize a partition (hopefully without losing data) ?
[04:45] <jussi01> wolferine: as long as its not a mounted partition
[04:46] <otaku42> jussi01: cd check says: "no errors found"
[04:46] <wolferine> jussi01, I beleive thats why u usin g the Live CD?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> wolferine: whenever you re partition you are subjecting yourself to lose of data
[04:46] <wolferine> use*
[04:46] <jussi01> otaku42: then i have no idea...
[04:46] <Skrot> Does kubuntu feisty support the same proprietary software installed (for nVidia drivers for instance) as ubuntu does?
[04:46] <wolferine> gnomefreak, the reason for adding the "hopefully"
[04:47] <gnomefreak> wolferine: remember backup
[04:47] <jussi01> wolferine: yes, i have done so succesfully before
[04:47] <otaku42> jussi01: trying again... murphy knows, maybe it works now.
[04:47] <jussi01> otaku42: fingers crossed
[04:48] <otaku42> jussi01: thx. trying "safe graphics" now... wouldn't expect a difference from it really, but...
[04:48] <fladd> jussi01: do you know any way to rename those devices on the desktop? because now they are calles something like "10GB Medium" and so on
[04:50] <jussi01> fladd: i had the same question...
[04:50] <jussi01> otaku42: good luck
[04:50] <wolferine> fladd, those devices?
[04:50] <jussi01> fladd: i still dont have an answer
[04:50] <dac> LjL thanks for helping me the other day.
[04:50] <jussi01> wolferine: mounted hdd's and samba shares etc...
[04:51] <wolferine> well, you need to probably be sudo to rename them
[04:51] <fladd> wolferine: yes, how to rename them? or actually "where"?
[04:51] <wolferine> so open a shell, and move to your desktop and rename?
[04:52] <fladd> wolferine: they are not listed in the shell
[04:52] <wolferine> fladd, are they files on your filesystem?
[04:52] <fladd> no
[04:52] <fladd> i guess that they are kde specific
[04:52] <wolferine> fladd, then you would need to rename them at the source
[04:52] <fladd> what source?
[04:53] <wolferine> if they are not on your filesystem, then I am guessing they are in a remote location
[04:53] <fladd> trying to rename them on the desktop leads to an error message telling me I cannot do this
[04:53] <wolferine> fladd,  as I said before, you have to rename them as sudo
[04:53] <wolferine> or called root
[04:54] <wolferine> do you know that there is a /desktop dir in your user's /home dir, at /home/user/desktop ?
[04:54] <Last_Hero> is is possible to enable read/write permissions for an NTFS partition permanently, so I can save files there without having to invoke sudo every time?
[04:55] <wolferine> and if you cd /home/user/desktop then do sudo cp first_file new_file_name
[04:55] <wolferine> Last_Hero, remote system, or local?
[04:55] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | Last_Hero
[04:55] <ubotu> Last_Hero: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:55] <Last_Hero> wolferine, local (it's my XP install on the same hard disk)
[04:55] <wolferine> then check the link above
[04:56] <Last_Hero> do I need to install that? even though Feisty has support for NTFS?
[04:56] <wolferine> you might be able to set it up as an NFS share
[04:56] <wolferine> Last_Hero, you might just want to read it over...
[04:56] <otaku42> jussi01: thanks for crossing your fingers, that seems to help... looks good so far *knocks on wood*
[04:57] <fladd> wolferine: Well, as I said before, the entries are not listed in the Desktop directory.
[04:57] <jussi01> otaku42: excellent, btw which graphics card you using?
[04:57] <wolferine> fladd, ls -la instead of just ls
[04:57] <otaku42> jussi01: the one that's build in the intel 950 chipset of the notebook
[04:58] <Chowderpilot> hey all, how can you tell what name (ttyS0, etc) Ubuntu has given your Serial port?
[04:58] <wolferine> fladd, that work, I have to run
[04:58] <jussi01> otaku42: that should work out of the box...
[04:58] <fladd> wolferine: so i cannot rename them using the shell, since the shell will not see them. I tried showing the hidden files already, they are just not there
[04:58] <wolferine> fladd, ls -la
[04:59] <fladd> wolferine: anf again: ls -la is not showing anything inside the Desktop directory
[04:59] <wolferine> fladd, right click the icon on the desktop, then click properties
[04:59] <wolferine> you will see something with a few tabs, select the Basic
[05:00] <wolferine> then tell me, where is the "location"
[05:00] <fladd> wolferine: renaming them there does not work, it returns an error
[05:00] <wolferine> fladd, pls follow my instructions... :)
[05:00] <michael> Is there a copy key shortcut in linux?
[05:00] <fladd> okay
[05:00] <wolferine> michael, a few
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, you can copy/paste via two methods
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, you can select the text, then press the middl mouse button to paste
[05:01] <fladd> wolferine: what location do you want to know? the drives are at /media of course
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, or you can select text, press ctrl-c/ctrl-x (to copy/cut) then ctrl-v
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, right click the icon on the desktop, then click properties
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, you will see something with a few tabs, select the Basic
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, then tell me, where is the "location"
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, you reading what I wrote?
[05:02] <horde> Please noone kick me for saying this, but I just had a bad cluster prob with my vfat partition that fsck (seemingly) couldn't fix...but chkdsk in Windoze could.  Does Win handle vfat better than linux?
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, you must be used to EFnet
[05:03] <fladd> okay, location is /media/hda5
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, we dont kick for "windoze" questions
[05:03] <wolferine> fladd, so that is NOT a remote drive, its a local disk
[05:03] <horde> wolferine: sorry, I posted to Slashdot once and since then I'm sensitive ;)
[05:03] <fladd> ahm, yes, why should it be remote device?
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, hehe :)
[05:04] <d0uglas> Hi. Want to go dual-head on my laptop with an extended virtual desktop or whatever to a separate monitor. lspci says i got an Intel 82852/855GM. Do I want xinerama? twinview?
[05:04] <wolferine> fladd, I really dont think you have been paying attention
[05:04] <wolferine> fladd, what is its name on the desktop (the name you want to change it from)
[05:05] <wolferine> fladd, man mount
[05:05] <wolferine> i have to run
[05:05] <fladd> one is: "/", the other one is "10GB-Medium (sda1)" and the last one is "42GB-Medium (sda5)"
[05:05] <Chowderpilot> hey all, how can you tell what name (ttyS0, etc) Ubuntu has given your Serial port?
[05:06] <Riddell> open week in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:06] <judgen> dang, my install uses up 8gb space...
[05:06] <judgen> the /usr folder alone is over 1,2gb
[05:07] <fladd> very funny, I think wolferine was talking about something completely different :-)
[05:08] <judgen> I tried dolphin today, and i must say. Im impressed.
[05:08] <the_ringmaster> Help I screwed up my computer when installing nvidia
[05:09] <the_ringmaster> I installed the nvidia-glx package and then went to the system settings  and changed the driver from nv to nvidia
[05:09] <the_ringmaster> I restarted x and now I am stuck with a very low resolution
[05:10] <dac> no you didn't ,try again ring_master
[05:10] <judgen> the_ringmaster: have you tried to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[05:10] <the_ringmaster> would that help?
[05:10] <judgen> to see if the module is listed
[05:10] <judgen> i think youve note installed nvidia drivers properly
[05:10] <the_ringmaster> brb I will try that code
[05:11] <gan|y|med> . i tried to mount it traditionally, but i get "only root can mount..." how do i fix this again?
[05:11] <judgen> Anyone know the name of that icon set with most osx icons working
[05:11] <tictactatic> judgen, do you know a way how to change the default file manager in kde?
[05:11] <judgen> gan|y|med: tried using "sudo" before the mount command =P
[05:12] <otaku42> ooook. isn't the installer expected to give a final screen telling something like "i'm done now, friend, you may want to reboot your system now" once it's finished its work?
[05:12] <judgen> otaku42: the ubuntu installer or some app installer?
[05:13] <jussi01> otaku42: yeah, it give the the you can go back to the live cd dialouge...
[05:13] <the_ringmaster> what was that code again?
[05:13] <otaku42> judgen: the kubuntu installer.
[05:13] <jussi01> the_ringmaster: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <otaku42> jussi01: hmm... then i guess something went wrong. it showed some progress bar, then suddenly the installer disappered from the screen. doh!
[05:14] <jussi01> doh...
[05:14] <jussi01> otaku42: have you got a spare cd? i would try burning another one...
[05:15] <jussi01> at a slower speed
[05:15] <otaku42> jussi01: i guess i just try to boot into the install and see what happens. if that doesn't work i go with another cd.
[05:15] <the_ringmaster> Is there another code for it
[05:15] <gan|y|med> judgen: found it. it's the user option in fstab. i should finaly memorise this...
[05:16] <Doctor_Nick> ok
[05:16] <the_ringmaster> I have installed nvidia-glx, now what
[05:16] <rob_> my kubuntu cant always write ,  and  - any ideas how to fix it ?
[05:16] <otaku42> jussi01: obviously the installation did not finish. no grub installed, instead winxp starts.
[05:16] <otaku42> jussi01: ok, another cd then... tomorrow. i give up for today :)
[05:17] <jussi01> otaku42: doh!!
[05:17] <jussi01> otaku42: good luck
[05:17] <otaku42> jussi01: at least winxp still starts as it did before ;)
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: thx. will try from a new cd-r (not rw) tomorrow.
[05:18] <jussi01> heh
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: thx for your help so far.
[05:18] <the_ringmaster> what do I do after installing nvidia-glx package
[05:18] <jussi01> otaku42: you didnt say it was rw
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: i did :)
[05:18] <jussi01> that most likely is your problem
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: why?
[05:19] <jussi01> otaku42: i dont know, just a lot of ppl have issues with rw cd's and installs...
[05:20] <the_ringmaster> what should I Do?
[05:20] <otaku42> jussi01: good to know, thanks for the hint.
[05:20] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: If you're doing what I think you're doing, open up System Settings, click Monitor and Display, go to Admin mode, click Hardware, click Configure next to your card, make sure it's got the right card, click Proprietary on the right, click ok a couple of times, and re-start X
[05:21] <jussi01> the_ringmaster: its kind of quiet as the classroom session is on...
[05:22] <wolferine> can I add to my "/" partition?
[05:22] <wolferine> its a logical partition I beleive
[05:22] <wolferine> without removing my OS?
[05:22] <Graham> wolferine: You mean increase the size?
[05:22] <wolferine> correct graham
[05:23] <Graham> Yeah you can change the size of partitions without affecting the OS, so long as the HD has space after.
[05:23] <wolferine> Graham, thats not what I asked
[05:23] <wolferine> can I change the size of my logical partition
[05:24] <wolferine> not an extended
[05:24] <Graham> I don't think it matters.
[05:24] <Graham> Wait when you say logical...
[05:24] <Graham> Nevermind.
[05:24] <wolferine> Graham, it does matter
[05:27] <Graham> wolferine: If you know then what's the fucking point in asking?
[05:27] <the_ringmaster> why isn't this nvidia driver working?
[05:27] <wolferine> !language | Graham
[05:27] <ubotu> Graham: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:28] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: Did you try what I mentioned?
[05:28] <thefirstdude> I have now decided you aren't related to my favorite snack
[05:28] <the_ringmaster> what did you say I forget
[05:29] <Columcille> ...
[05:29] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: If you're doing what I think you're doing, open up System Settings, click Monitor and Display, go to Admin mode, click Hardware, click Configure next to your card, make sure it's got the right card, click Proprietary on the right, click ok a couple of times, and re-start X
[05:30] <the_ringmaster> That is what I did in the beginning. FYI: my card isn't even listed there
[05:31] <Columcille> not sure then
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> I just did a glxgears and it does seem like the graphics driver is working
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> now how do I fix this resolution problem it caused?
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> My resolution should be 1280-1024
[05:32] <acemo> manually add the resoution in xorg.conf?
[05:32] <Columcille> when I installed the nvidia driver, it then had trouble recognizing my monitor
[05:32] <Columcille> I had to go into xorg.conf and set things manually
[05:32] <Columcille> not sure why it had monitor issues
[05:32] <the_ringmaster> would it help if i posted my xorg.conf file here
[05:32] <azraeI> I just updated my Kubuntu to Feisty. All went fine, in the end I was asked to reboot. when trying to reboot, right at the start after the menu, nothing happens for severak minutes, then I get a busybox shell and the message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". The hardware is a lenovo T60. Any ideas??
[05:34] <nbcb> why does my kb3 unable to clone my vcd to a disc? it says multiple track not supported
[05:35] <wolferine> nbcb, maybe trying asking in #tovid
[05:36] <Yorokobi> azraeI, google the error message, there's a fix for that in one of the linux-related forums
[05:36] <CVirus> azraeI: isn't azrael a fallen angel or sumthing ?
[05:37] <CVirus> azraeI: #Kubuntu-offtopic .. you mind ?
[05:40] <CVirus> azraeI: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292533
[05:40] <nbcb> they are sleeping
[05:40] <Kubuntu> Can I make the login so that I won't have to write the login name?
[05:42] <acemo> anyone here can help me with sed?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kde has a auto-login feature for KDM.   and i think it has a rember last name feature as well..
[05:42] <Dr_willis> !kdm
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm theres a kdm control setting tool. but i forget its name
[05:42] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[05:42] <ubotu> Found: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme
[05:43] <the_ringmaster> well guys I have had some luck
[05:43] <azraeI> CVirus: Thanks. will try that stuff and hope it magically works.
[05:43] <the_ringmaster> I did what you said and then did this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:44] <CVirus> azraeI: no problem
[05:45] <the_ringmaster> that command got me up to 1024-768
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> what is up with Feisty??? can't uninstall certain packages because they are linked to kubuntu-desktop???
[05:49] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  thats a meta package.  removing kubuntu-desktop wont hurt anything.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> or at least it shouldent.
[05:50] <Skrot> It's like that in edgy as well
[05:50] <Skrot> Nothing to worry about :)
[05:51] <the_ringmaster> should I use the envy script to install and set up nvidia?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, thanks was worried it was gonna uninstall all of kubuntu and leave me with a blinking cursor :)
[05:51] <wolferine> i want to increase the size of my primary partition, without deleting it, can I do that with Gparted?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> So far i'm liking feisty :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  yea. they got so much stuff in kubuntu-desktop that i dont think should be in there.. but thats how it is.
[05:51] <Skrot> For those of you who use feisty; does it sport the same new easy codec and easy binary blob features as ubuntu, only in a Qt4/KDE app?
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, ya I agree and I use other stuff that seems to work better like vlc player works right out of the box :)
[05:52] <HaokaH> hi trkce konuan yok mu yaaa
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I perfer to remove openoffice from the start. :)
[05:53] <Skrot> !tr
[05:53] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> ya I agree I use star office myself
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> ok time to install 3D nvidia drivers :)
[05:54] <Skrot> In other words; kubuntu feisty doesnt fix that like ubuntu feisty supposedly does?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I just use abiword. :)
[05:59] <Skrot> kword =)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  the various media players asked/installed some of the codecs for me when i started them
[05:59] <Skrot> okay, amarok tried to install mp3 support but failed :>
[05:59] <Skrot> running the live-cd now
[05:59] <Skrot> since my hdd is dead
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  i had that issue as well.. try running amarok as root. or perhaps run it from a terminal
[06:00] <Dr_willis>  i got it to do it.. but im not sure HOW i did it.
[06:00] <Last_Hero> Skrot, get the Mp3 support from Adept
[06:00] <Skrot> I know
[06:01] <Skrot> I don't really need mp3-support with the live cd, i just wanted to check if it works
[06:01] <Skrot> Flash-installation in Konqueror worked well though
[06:01] <groo_> hello/2 all, any (k)ubuntu developers alive?
[06:02] <herbcharl> hello I am new to kubuntu
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  oh? i dident see it do that. :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  at this rate we will Kill off those EasyScript/Automatix disasters soon! :)
[06:02] <groo_> could anyone tell me how to change the timeout in gphoto2 libs?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  how about Java?
[06:02] <Skrot> yeah =)
[06:02] <Skrot> Haven't tried java yet
[06:03] <Dr_willis> I wonder why they just dont automate installin that stuff on the first boot.. Proberly 'legal' reasons.
[06:03] <Skrot> yupp. At least with mp3-codec etc
[06:04] <groo_> is anyone able to add a local printer in kubuntu using cups (kprinter, gnomeprinter)
[06:04] <nbcb> when i insert a vcd, it doesn't auto detect, how do i list all ym devies? i tried fdisk -l but shown nothing
[06:05] <herbcharl> hi toyman
[06:05] <ToyMan> hi
[06:06] <herbcharl> got to go now bye
[06:06] <wolferine> let me understand this correctly, can I upgrade to Feisty, using the CD?
[06:06] <wolferine> or do I have to do a clean, new install
[06:06] <wolferine> (w/o accessing the internet)
[06:06] <akrus> can someone tell me if Gutsy is now available for testing?
[06:07] <akrus> asked almost everywhere xD
[06:07] <wolferine> akrus, I am sure it is
[06:07] <wolferine> check the forums?
[06:07] <groo_> is anyone able to add a local printer (USB) in kubuntu using cups (kprinter, gnomeprinter)
[06:07] <Skrot> I'd imagine gutsy is about the same as feisty right now..
[06:07] <wolferine> groo_, no need to post each minute
[06:07] <Skrot> Give them a couple of months to acctually develop something new to test ;)
[06:07] <groo_> wolferine: you can upgrade but is always better to do a fresh install
[06:08] <akrus> wolferine: :D
[06:08] <wolferine> groo_, with the CD directly?
[06:08] <bdesouza> hello
[06:08] <deoptima> feisty is pretty bugged on some systems my desktop server has a ton of bugs but my laptop runs flawlessly
[06:09] <gulars> are there official support for encrypting the system in feisty, like in debian etch?
[06:09] <groo_> wolferine: yes, you add the cd with apt-cdrom add and then you do a apt-get dist-upgrade, fremember that some packages might not exist if you have external repos
[06:10] <deoptima> on my server i have access when im on the LAN but now outside the lan
[06:10] <_benjo_> just installed Feisty...i'm having trouble setting up wirless with wpasupplicant..when I type knetworkmanager  in a shell, nothing happns...nothing opens....also I don't have /etc/wpasupplicant.conf file...should this file be generated automatically or do I have to configure wpa manually??
[06:10] <deoptima> Wicd worked for me
[06:11] <wolferine> groo_, the apt-cdrom add, adds the CD to my sources.list?
[06:11] <wolferine> i want to do a minimal install really, as I am lacking space
[06:12] <malik__> how to i make konqueror to display my video clips as thumbnail views?
[06:12] <gulars> anyone know if there are official support for encrypting the whole system in feisty?
[06:13] <groo_> wolferine: yes
[06:13] <groo_> gulars: yes there is.. encfs
[06:13] <markey> hmm
[06:13] <markey> my Adept in feisty is a bit weird
[06:13] <markey> check this screenie
[06:13] <markey> http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/379/snapshot1uf7.png
[06:14] <markey> the description for easytag :)
[06:14] <wolferine> groo_, i already have my CD added in my sources.list, but when I do an update (via the update manager, not cli) it dls all the packages..
[06:14] <groo_> malik__: change to icon view
[06:14] <PhinnFort> markey: wear
[06:14] <groo_> wolferine: coment the repos then, main and universal only
[06:15] <PhinnFort> and tear
[06:15] <Aurvandill> Are there any distros that use LILO as the default bootloader?
[06:15] <wolferine> groo_, true
[06:15] <PhinnFort> Aurvandill: yggdrasil, maybe?
[06:15] <malik__> groo_: it is set on icon view but its not showin the files as thumbnails.....its showin just icon of the file
[06:16] <Aurvandill> So I guess GRUB is taking over? Too bad, since Grub can't seem to find "itself" on a computer I am trying to install Ubuntu on :(
[06:16] <Aurvandill> It keeps saying Error 17
[06:18] <wolferine> my /usr/lib and /usr/share are taking up 4GB of space, anyway I can reduce that?
[06:19] <wolferine> some temp files in there, I might be able to delete?
[06:19] <crube> Does ubuntu have an integrated firewall?
[06:19] <groo_> malik__: in konqueror, view, preview, activate the video preview
[06:19] <groo_> crube: a ton... firestarter, kfirewall, etc
[06:20] <Yorokobi> crube, which all use iptables ^^^
[06:20] <soon> I want this executed at boot up : 'iwpriv ath0 mode 2' (as root) - which config/script file should I add it to?
[06:20] <crube> groo_:  I have a problem, trying to host a game of Worms Armageddon, but I wonder if the port is blocked by my computer or something else.
[06:20] <wolferine> crube, yes, iptables
[06:21] <groo_> crube: do a iptable -L as sudo and see the ports blocked
[06:21] <wolferine> crube, you can scan all your ports
[06:21] <crube> groo_:  allright thanks
[06:21] <soon> which config file?
[06:21] <wolferine> scanning localhost is of great help :)
[06:22] <mattik> What is cause that allways when I log off from kubuntu I get black screen and I have to shutdown computer by switch?
[06:22] <crube> wolferine:  how do i do that?
[06:22] <malik__> groo_: there is no opetion for video preview .....only sound clip view and different other picture opens..........any other i dea?
[06:22] <nbcb> why doesn't kubuntu detects my cd when i put in a vcd? my windows can see it
[06:22] <nbcb> i can't see it in fdisk -l, i can't mount it
[06:23] <nbcb> what's worng
[06:23] <wolferine> crube, its called Network tools, but I am using Gnome
[06:23] <wolferine> nbcb, did you talk to #tovid about it?
[06:24] <wolferine> oh, I see
[06:24] <wolferine> its not the media on the disk thats the issue
[06:24] <nbcb> ... i already burned it using cdrdao
[06:24] <wolferine> nbcb, what are you using to handle those filetypes?
[06:24] <nbcb> after burning i put it into my windows system and it dtects and play.. but kubuntu doesn't seem to read the cd or mount anything
[06:25] <wolferine> nbcb, what are you using to handle those filetypes?
[06:25] <nbcb> errr usually when i put in any cd, kubuntu will prompt me how to handle the cd.. but this time its nothing
[06:25] <wolferine> ....
[06:25] <nbcb> i want kubuntu to mount it to /media/cdrom0
[06:25] <groo_> malik__: video files preview?
[06:26] <malik__> groo_: nothin remotely mentioning video
[06:27] <groo_> malik__: go to kcontrol , desktop, behaviour.. check the video file preview
[06:28] <crube> wolferine: I didn't find a way to scan ports in any of the network settings :(
[06:29] <malik__> groo_: hate to be a nagg but there isnt any video file preview there either
[06:30] <wolferine> crube, its called "network tools" not "network settings" btw
[06:30] <MepisReign> nbcb, would u try sudo mount -v /dev/hda /media/cdrom0
[06:30] <groo_> malik__: don't know then :( should be.. ahh try installing all kde instead of only kubuntu.. apt-get install kde
[06:30] <groo_> malik__: that should do it
[06:31] <warren_> hello
[06:31] <crube> wolferine:  yeah i found it, but I couldn't find anything about ports there
[06:31] <warren_> I've installed Kubuntu 7 but I doesn't works :(
[06:31] <warren_> I have to close networkmanager to have access to i,nternetr
[06:31] <warren_> is this normal?
[06:31] <malik__> groo_: i just freshly installed fiesty
[06:32] <malik__> groo_: :(
[06:32] <malik__> groo_: thanx for trying any way mate
[06:32] <groo_> malik__: when you install feisty, kubuntu, you just installed a subset of all kde.. doing a apt-get install kde will install all of it..
[06:33] <nbcb> it just goes blinking on the cdrom light and the command hang there
[06:33] <nbcb> funny is when i put the same cd into windows it just load
[06:33] <groo_> malik__: since i installed feisty (kubuntu) and then kde, i have all the option, including the video preview ones
[06:33] <weedar> I asked someone at work about VPN and he gave me a URL with a port-number.. What vpn uses only that?
[06:33] <wolferine> crube, isnt there something to "scan" with?
[06:33] <groo_> weedar: nmap
[06:33] <wolferine> called port scan maybe
[06:33] <groo_> wolferine: nmap
[06:34] <wolferine> that doesnt sound right
[06:34] <crube> wolferine:  No, Nothing
[06:35] <wolferine> crube, http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/screenshots/info_portscan.jpg
[06:35] <weedar> groo_: won't that just reveal they have A vpn-server running, not what kind?
[06:35] <wolferine> which comes from http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/screenshots.shtml
[06:35] <weedar> also, I'm not sure running nmap is 100% legal here... =)
[06:35] <groo_> weedar: nmap usually tries to check for the system too
[06:36] <azraeI> weedar: exactly what are you trying to do?
[06:36] <groo_> weedar: port scanning is perfectly legal anywhere in the world... unless you are port scanning the CIA.. the its definitely legal :D
[06:36] <froggie> any help for a linux newbie? i'm trying to get java installed with any browser at all (i have firefox and konquerer installed right now) but i can't get it 'fixed', as a matter of speaking. ;)
[06:37] <crube> wolferine: I use KDE, and it doesn't even have a tab like that
[06:37] <froggie> i must be doing something not right, at least. lol.... any help available with that stuff? ;)
[06:37] <groo_> froggie: apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin
[06:37] <weedar> azraeI: my workplace has a vpn-solution, but all I've got is a URL and port-number. Not sure where to go from there :)
[06:37] <azraeI> groo_: a friend in switzerland got raided for port scanning at the end of last year. perfectly legal: yes.  Stupid law enforcement: yes, too
[06:38] <homero> hola
[06:38] <groo_> groo_: it depends WHAT you are port scanning
[06:38] <grothesk> Is there a known issue with DVD-support in Feisty?
[06:38] <froggie> groo_: i'll give that a try! thanks
[06:38] <homero> se puede chater en espaol?
[06:38] <azraeI> weedar: i personally use the open-src vpnc client for work vpn. At work most use windows and the cisco client. I extracted the 'secret' from the profile files and placed it in the vpnc config. thehere are public tools for decrypting the cisco profile secret
[06:39] <azraeI> groo: it shouldnt if portscanning is legal. guess we are off-topic here though
[06:41] <weedar> azraeI: so I'll have to get more information from work before I can connect?
[06:42] <azraeI> CVirus: after booting ubuntu from cd and editing /mnt/menu.list my system just booted again. In the file root=/dev/sda1 was replaced with a long uuid. Same thing in /etc/fstab btw. sucks.
[06:42] <azraeI> weedar: most likely, yes. You'll need  a) the server to connect to  b) username/password
[06:43] <azraeI> c) the 'secret' too usually. ask your admin?
[06:43] <wolferine> crube I realize your using KDE
[06:43] <CVirus> azraeI: that's normal
[06:43] <wolferine> that is why I told you, I am using Gnome, in advance
[06:43] <CVirus> azraeI: that's the drive's UUID
[06:43] <weedar> azraeI: I have a) and possibly b), I'll have to ask about c) tomorrow at work. Thanks though :)
[06:44] <CVirus> azraeI: make sure your swap is working ... there is a bug IIRC
[06:44] <crube> wolferine:  Yeah I know, but in KDE I cant find a tab like that
[06:44] <wolferine> well, get the Gnome one then
[06:44] <wolferine> its very helpful
[06:44] <CVirus> azraeI: free -m
[06:45] <azraeI> CVirus: it shows a certain amount of swap space, none in use atm.
[06:45] <CVirus> azraeI: it's working then
[06:46] <busfahrer> How do I get video thumbnails to work in Feisty? My previous trick of installing the mplayerthumbs addon doesnt seem to work anymore in Feisty.
[06:46] <azraeI> k thanks
[06:47] <wolferine> busfahrer, is it in the forums?
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: install libarts1-xine
[06:48] <busfahrer> LeeJunFan: That didnt work either (plus the way xine does thumbnails is kinda pointless)
[06:48] <stka> hi
[06:48] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: do you also have libxine1-ffmpeg installed I wonder?
[06:49] <busfahrer> LeeJunFan: Yep
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: hrm, works here with xine just fine.
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: I wonder if you need the libakode2-mpeg and or libarts1-akode as well?
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> why that stuff isn't done by default is beyond me. I always seem to forget what packages I need to get it working every time I do a fresh install.
[06:50] <stka> has anyone managed to watch DVD unter kubuntu with 7.04? I allways get the errormessage "no demultiplexer for >dvd:///dev/scd0<"
[06:50] <TheCreationist> So, short of doing a clean install, is it possible/stable to revert from Feisty back to Edgy?
[06:51] <mc__> hello! i would like to run a 32bit game on my amd64 system. on gentoo i had the linux32 command which allowed mit to do this,how to this in kubuntu
[06:51] <fastesthamster> To stka: I can watch dvds in feisty
[06:51] <mc__> TheCreationist: downgrades are _not_ supported
[06:51] <fastesthamster> I use kaffeine
[06:51] <stka> fastesthamster: I also use kaffeine and all codecs are installed
[06:52] <fastesthamster> stka: that's weird then
[06:52] <stka> I also tried mplayer fastesthamster
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> TheCreationist: possible for somone who really knows the debian-like system well, but even still not worth the trouble.
[06:52] <fastesthamster> did you try gmplayer or mplayer from the command line
[06:52] <stka> I'm not alone with this problem
[06:53] <stka> fastesthamster: yes
[06:53] <mc__> hello! i would like to run a 32bit game on my amd64 system. on gentoo i had the linux32 command which allowed mit to do this,how to this in ubuntu
[06:53] <froggie> how do i unpack a .deb file? (that java is packed in .deb i think)
[06:53] <charwood> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to do dual head on feisty with the XPRESS 200M on my notebook.  I think I have my xorg.conf correct, but I get cloned view instead of MergedFB when I start up.  /var/lob/Xorg.0.log says (WW) fglrx(0) Option "MergedFB" is not used.
[06:53] <stka> fastesthamster: libdvdread is reading the DVD
[06:53] <charwood> Why is it not used?  (-8
[06:54] <fastesthamster> stka: Was feisty a fresh install or upgrade from edgy
[06:54] <stka> fresh install
[06:54] <fastesthamster> Oh, mine was an upgrade from edgy
[06:54] <stka> fastesthamster: that's the errormessage ioctl(): Input/output error
[06:54] <charwood> I'd be happy to pastebin my xorg.conf and my error log if anyone knows what might be wrong with MergedFB.
[06:55] <Aattila> hi! is there anything tells me what driver should be used? vesa video driver is applied and it works badly but don't know what to change
[06:55] <charwood> Until today I had only used Xinerama or Nvidia settings (ATI cards are such a pain.  Arg.)  Does anyone here use MergedFB for Dual screen?  Is there a better option with an ATI card?
[06:55] <froggie> is .deb a packed file? and if yes, how can i unpack it?
[06:55] <charwood> Aattila: What video card to you have?
[06:55] <Menda> hi
[06:56] <fastesthamster> stka: Sorry, I don't know.  I'll check my gf's install, she's got a fresh feisty
[06:56] <stka> fastesthamster: try it and maybe you will get the same messages
[06:57] <charwood> Shoot, gotta help a client.  Sorry.  I'll be back.
[06:57] <fastesthamster> I  hope not!
[06:57] <fastesthamster> I'm trying to convince her that switching from windows was a good idea
[06:58] <stka> fastesthamster: Now I tried it with "mplayer dvd://1" that worked
[06:59] <fastesthamster> That's awesome, wonder what the problem with kaffeine is then?
[06:59] <fastesthamster> gmplayer *still* doesn't work on my system, only command line mplayer works
[07:00] <stka> so the codecs are ok, there must be something with the new devicemanagement
[07:01] <fastesthamster> I had one or two issues with device management.  seems to be sorted out now.  It stopped autmounting SD cards, then decided to start again.
[07:02] <stka> under 7.04 with kernel 2.6.20 all IDE devices are managed as scsi device
[07:04] <fastesthamster> Exit
[07:04] <stka> fastesthamster: i just installed vlc then it's working O_O so there must be something with kaffeine
[07:04] <fastesthamster> That's weird
[07:04] <oem_> what do I do after configuring through the oem account?
[07:05] <fastesthamster> I've never used vlc
[07:05] <stka> fastesthamster: There is allways a little bit of voodoo while working with computers ;-)
[07:05] <fastesthamster> I guess that's what makes them fun :)
[07:06] <stka> fastesthamster: so I think I use vlc at the moment, thank you for your help
[07:07] <ubuntu> witam
[07:07] <flowingfire> Hello everybody.  Beryl isn't starting in the system tray like I want it to.  How do I get it to start up in the system tray in KDE?
[07:08] <flowingfire> In fact, I'm curious about how to get any program to begin at startup for that matter
[07:09] <busfahrer> Anybody in here using the Addon Mplayerthumbs?
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> ok crazy ? resized my desktop and now on the kicker desktop names are not showing full size what gives??
[07:10] <malik__> how do i enable video file thumbnails in fiesty?
[07:11] <flowingfire> Just in case anybody is around: I'm hoping somebody can help me put a program in the system try in Kubuntu so it begins on startup
[07:11] <Kikifas> puk
[07:11] <Aattila> is there anybody using via vn800 video card? i have problems with it
[07:12] <Kikifas> I do't have hard disk
[07:12] <Kikifas> :)
[07:12] <soulrider__> Kikifas: youre usingt he live CD ?
[07:13] <Kikifas> because when I put on my computer i"m broken one styck
[07:13] <Kikifas> yes
[07:13] <froggie> i have 2 problems, the bar at the bottom of the screen is not working good anymore (it doesn't show up after reboot, and after launching it with kicker it shows up but doesn't work :)
[07:14] <Kikifas> so doasen't work
[07:14] <soulrider> !pl | Kikifas
[07:14] <ubotu> Kikifas: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:14] <soulrider> maybe that can help you
[07:14] <Kikifas> thx
[07:14] <lupul> has anyone used k3b in edgy?
[07:14] <flowingfire> . . . anyone know how begin a program at startup?
[07:14] <soulrider> froggie: doesnt work as in you click ir and cant do anything or, doesnt work as in it doesnt show the applist, kmenu etc
[07:14] <lupul> i meant feisty
[07:14] <Xplosion> hello! i'm having problems with feisty upgrade. can anybody help?
[07:14] <charwood> Hooray.  I'm back.  Hope no one missed me too much.  Does anyone run dualhead with MergedFB and/or know anything about it and why it wouldn't want to start?
[07:15] <lupul> *ment
[07:15] <soulrider> lupul: not me, but im guessing it works :P
[07:15] <froggie> soulrider: doesn;'t launch apps anymore
[07:15] <lupul> well kind of bad
[07:15] <charwood> lupul: Used it in edgy plenty, what's going on?
[07:15] <soulrider> froggie: so your kmenu isnt working
[07:15] <lupul> in edgy me too. but in feisty i tried to burn 2 dvd's
[07:16] <lupul> and both are gone
[07:16] <soulrider> lupul: weird, any errors ?
[07:16] <froggie>  soulrider: yes
[07:16] <froggie>  not working
[07:16] <lupul> something about RMA
[07:16] <charwood> lupul: "are gone" = "failed to burn correctly"?  Also, same hardware I'm assuming?
[07:16] <Xplosion> i'm getting md5sum error with knetworkmanager when upgrading to feisty. what can i do?
[07:16] <froggie>  anymore
[07:16] <benkong2> hello fellow kubuntians :)
[07:16] <charwood> Howdy benkong
[07:17] <lupul> :))
[07:17] <froggie> hey benkong2
[07:17] <benkong2> anyone help with a knetworkmanager problem and iftab_helper?
[07:17] <grothesk> Xplosion: Download it again.
[07:17] <soulrider> hi benkong2
[07:17] <benkong2> hi soulrider; froggie
[07:17] <sdlnxgk> lupul, give me a second cant try k3b in feisty
[07:17] <froggie> i didn't know Kubuntu was a race now ;)) haha, Kubuntian ;))
[07:17] <froggie> lol
[07:17] <froggie> :)
[07:17] <soulrider> froggie: im not in kubuntu right now, but why dont you try reinstalling kicker ?
[07:17] <flowingfire> anyone know how I can add programs to start in the system tray in kubuntu?
[07:17] <Xplosion> doin it with adpet
[07:17] <benkong2> yes a super race; trying to take over the world
[07:17] <Xplosion> adept
[07:17] <malik__> i cant get video file's thumbnail preview in fiesty ....how do i enable it?.......plz help
[07:18] <Xplosion> same error all the times
[07:18] <lupul> haha
[07:18] <benkong2> flowingfire: right click on the panel and add an applet
[07:18] <grothesk> malik__: Install kdes noatun.
[07:18] <froggie> soulrider: hm like insert the cd and see what happens or something? ;) won't that erase my entire installment that i already have now though?
[07:18] <soulrider> flowingfire: right clickt he panela dn hit 'Add application to panel'
[07:18] <soulrider> what will make  ashortcut
[07:19] <soulrider> froggie: no no, just reinstall the kicker, thats the program that shows the panel :)
[07:19] <soulrider> froggie: open a terminal
[07:19] <benkong2> I thought feisty was going to have knetworkmanager with WPA support as default. Is that not true?
[07:19] <soulrider> benkong2: im not sure actually
[07:19] <soulrider> !wpa
[07:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:20] <froggie> soulrider: cool, opening a terminal. (i am a total new linux user). doing kubuntu linux for exactly 1 week. lol
[07:20] <soulrider> lol froggie thats ok, we were all newbies once werent we? ;)
[07:20] <charwood> malik: System Settings->Desktop->Behavior
[07:20] <froggie> soulrider: what should i do after opening a terminal ?
[07:20] <soulrider> ok, type this
[07:20] <soulrider> sudo aptitude purge kicker
[07:20] <soulrider> and then
[07:20] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install kicker
[07:21] <froggie> coolness
[07:21] <Xplosion> anybody? i'm tring to upgrade to feisty using adept. but i get md5sum error on knetworkmanager all the time. what can i do?
[07:21] <froggie> i will sure give that a try now ;) ty!
[07:21] <malik__> grothesk: it says no package by that name..........kdes noatun........but there is one just by the name of noatun.......but i have already VLC/Kmplayer/mplayer/xine/kaffeine players installed.......
[07:21] <soulrider> Xplosion: are you using just adept or the dist-upgrade application ?
[07:21] <grothesk> malik__: Than take noatun.
[07:22] <charwood> Xplosion: Total guess here, you might need to run apt-get clean to clear out a badly downloaded package before you try installing again.
[07:22] <Xplosion> just adpet
[07:22] <busfahrer> so, most of the people using KDE are satisfied with the way xine generated movie thumbnails?
[07:22] <Xplosion> adept
[07:22] <soulrider> charwood:  Xplosion
[07:22] <soulrider> dont do that yet!
[07:22] <tero> kubuntu just won my "The most bleeding edge distro ever" prize
[07:22] <benkong2> brb all trying to get my wpa_supplicant working
[07:22] <soulrider> Xplosion: dont delete the cahe yet
[07:22] <soulrider> Xplosion: open konqueror
[07:23] <Xplosion> done
[07:23] <tero> is it "normal" that bash makes core dump if I enter a command that doesn't exist?
[07:23] <soulrider> ok, type this int he bar
[07:23] <Xplosion> opened konqueror
[07:23] <charwood> soulrider: Sorry, now I feel like an evil saboteur derailing your technical support plans.
[07:23] <soulrider> type: /var/cache
[07:23] <sdlnxgk> anyone know how to make firefox and thunderbird defaults so when you click on links ??
[07:23] <soulrider> lol charwood what you said is correct, but it will delete all packages, we just wanna delete the knetwork one :P
[07:23] <Xplosion> done
[07:23] <soulrider> ok Xplosion, do you see an apt directory?
[07:23] <chuck> hi all
[07:24] <soulrider> hi chuck
[07:24] <Xplosion> thanks... i don't want to download 800MB for the third time! lol
[07:24] <Xplosion> yep... inside apt directory
[07:24] <chuck> just got puter back with linux on it
[07:24] <chuck> this is intresting
[07:24] <chuck> lol
[07:24] <soulrider> sdlnxgk: go to the control center and in KDE components go to Prefered applications
[07:25] <soulrider> Xplosion: do you see an archive directory? type the correct name
[07:25] <soulrider> im not in kubuntu right now so im guessing the dirs :P
[07:25] <tero> can anyone test what you get when you type "asdfgh" in console? please
[07:25] <Xplosion> yep.. inside archive
[07:25] <Xplosion> archives
[07:25] <soulrider> great Xplosion
[07:25] <tero> I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:25] <soulrider> open a konsole
[07:25] <Xplosion> inside it there is a lonly directory... callled "partial"
[07:26] <Xplosion> and inside it there is the bad bad package
[07:26] <soulrider> Xplosion: do you see lots of deb files?
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, I don't see that all I see is system settings> default applications which I have did but still doesn't work..
[07:26] <chuck> does anyone know how  I can access my second hard drive ?
[07:26] <soulrider> sdlnxgk:  weird, hold on a sec please
[07:27] <Xplosion> i see a lot of deb. but the one with problems is inside the "partial" directory
[07:27] <soulrider> Xplosion: ok, in a console type this
[07:27] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, k
[07:27] <soulrider> Xplosion:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/knetwork      and hit tab once, see if it auto completes
[07:28] <Xplosion> but the error package is insde another directory...
[07:28] <soulrider> oh
[07:28] <soulrider> it should be there
[07:28] <Xplosion> inside the "partial" directory
[07:28] <soulrider> what directory do you think it is in ?
[07:28] <soulrider> ok, delete the one in partial then
[07:28] <Xplosion> ok
[07:28] <soulrider> Xplosion:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/knetwork      and hit tab once, see if it auto completes
[07:29] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, found it :)
[07:29] <soulrider> sdlnxgk: aweosme
[07:29] <oliver> Hello
[07:30] <sdlnxgk> the power of  google :)
[07:30] <pedro> hola
[07:30] <soulrider> hi oliver
[07:30] <soulrider> hola pedro
[07:30] <soulrider> !es | pedro
[07:30] <ubotu> pedro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:30] <charwood> Howdy oliver, pedro.
[07:30] <pedro> que hay
[07:30] <pedro> soy nuevo
[07:30] <pedro> en linux
[07:30] <oliver> anyone got any experiance with wifi problems in Kubuntu 7.04
[07:30] <creadorcreativo> pedro: #kubuntu-es, este canal es para soporte en ingles
[07:30] <pedro> nesecito adiestramiento
[07:30] <soulrider> pedro: no hay problema, pero en este canal solo se permite hablar ingles, vas a tener que ir a los canales en espa~nol
[07:31] <pedro> como lo hago
[07:31] <soulrider> click en el nombre en azul
[07:31] <soulrider> tambine intenta #ubuntu-es
[07:31] <oliver> anyone got any experiance with wifi problems in Kubuntu 7.04
[07:31] <soulrider> oliver: asking once is enough
[07:31] <flowingfire> linux es un dolor de extremo, pero me gusta de todos modos
[07:31] <soulrider> !wifi | oliver
[07:31] <ubotu> oliver: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:31] <grothesk> oliver: Get more specific.
[07:32] <oliver> when I try to connect to a wireless network it seems to hold on Configuing device then the connection drops
[07:32] <soulrider> Xplosion: is it working now ?
[07:33] <Xplosion> almost there
[07:33] <pedro> gracias
[07:33] <Xplosion> no... same error
[07:33] <oliver> soulrider?
[07:34] <soulrider> Xplosion: in the archives directory, not the partial one, make sure the knetwork package isnt present
[07:34] <charwood> charwood
[07:35] <Xplosion> it isn't
[07:35] <soulrider> Xplosion: i got an idea
[07:35] <soulrider> hold on a sec
[07:35] <Xplosion> now i removed the hole "partial" directory and adept crashed... lol
[07:35] <Xplosion> ok
[07:35] <dragan> hello... how can I disable wifi config in Festy through boot parameters?
[07:36] <soulrider> Xplosion: oh my, you should have closed it
[07:36] <oliver> it holds at 28% Acrivation stage: Confguring Device.
[07:36] <dragan> I have integrated wifi on laptop.. and I guees it freezes in activation...
[07:36] <|lostbyte|> oh
[07:36] <dragan> since there are several networks around me
[07:36] <Xplosion> it's ok... i made a new "partial" and adept is working again
[07:37] <soulrider> Xplosion: hold on just a sec
[07:37] <dragan> and I cant get it to boot
[07:37] <soulrider> Xplosion: im asuming you know how to run konqueror as root :)
[07:38] <soulrider> Xplosion:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fknetworkmanager%2Fknetworkmanager_0.1-0ubuntu11_i386.deb&md5sum=242d969715188f403fff68626497d6ba&arch=i386&type=main download it and place it in the archives and in the aprtial directorty
[07:38] <soulrider> lets see what happens, and close adept first!
[07:39] <sedat> hi there
[07:39] <oliver> dragan, I am having the same problems
[07:40] <dragan> oliver: it worked just fine at office... where AP is close and signal strong
[07:40] <froggie> hm, any help with installing java on my kubuntu computer? pls
[07:40] <dragan> but at home... it just wont boot
[07:40] <sedat> i recently installed wine to use flashget on it.Though I learned flashget is working with wine's previous package it is not working with last release
[07:40] <Xplosion> o.O
[07:40] <dragan> hangs at ~75%
[07:40] <Xplosion> every link i try gets me a page not found
[07:40] <oliver> mine hangs at ~28
[07:40] <sedat> how can  I install previous version
[07:40] <sedat> how can  I install previous version od wine
[07:41] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, you know why my desktop names on the kicker will not expand to the size of the name after chaning resoultion??
[07:41] <dragan> I just need boot param.. like noacpi...
[07:41] <dragan> but for standard i386 CD
[07:41] <oliver> mine sticks at Configuring Device
[07:41] <froggie> what does feisty, warty, etc mean btw? and how do i find out what i have? and is it important? :)
[07:41] <dragan> I have not downloaded yet DVD or Alternate CD
[07:42] <Xplosion> ok... found it manually
[07:42] <debianland> # Appears as ANNA
[07:42] <nixternal> froggie: they are the development names of Ubuntu releases. To find out which one you have, at the command line (Konsole) type =>    lsb_release -a
[07:42] <dragan> and... how can I SEE where it stopped???? I just see that blue bar... no info on what is going behid?
[07:42] <oliver> it's undernieth
[07:42] <oliver> are you on Kubuntu?
[07:43] <froggie> tyvm (thank you very much) nix :)
[07:43] <dragan> yes.. but now on edgy.. desktoip
[07:43] <pestilence> this is certainly the most interesting error i've had..."apt-get is not installed.  to install it, type apt-get install apt" :-D
[07:43] <dragan> pestilence: AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAa good one !!!!
[07:43] <oliver> I agree
[07:43] <pestilence> something is messed up with the path, as apt-get exists in /usr/bin
[07:43] <aro> How can I remap mouse keys 4 and 5? (the buttons on the side of my mouse)
[07:43] <pestilence> this is after an edgy-> feisty upgrade.  known bug?
[07:44] <oliver> Dragan, when I am conencting to a network (fiesty) it tells me what it's doing in a little bubble and it freezes on Configuring Device
[07:45] <dragan> ahhh oliver .. you get KDE :-) ... I am not there.... cant get feisty to boot to kde
[07:45] <Toyd> gUys from me to the kubuntu community: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:45] <dragan> at work I can... and it works.. and it finds AP and gets IP/gw...
[07:45] <oliver> mine was a fresh install my update went wrong
[07:45] <soulrider> Xplosion: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and get the package from there
[07:45] <sedat> how can  I install not the latest but the previous version of a program
[07:45] <dragan> but at home... it cant boot.. since there is at least 5 networks around :-)
[07:45] <aro> How can I remap mouse keys 4 and 5? (the buttons on the side of my mouse)
[07:46] <oliver> mine cannot connect and there is only  network found
[07:46] <Toyd> froggie you are in in nixternal you too http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:46] <dragan> oliver: what card?
[07:46] <Toyd> pestilence,  you too
[07:46] <aro> !mouse
[07:46] <dragan> I have some ralink...
[07:46] <oliver> hang on
[07:46] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:46] <oliver> how do I check ym card?
[07:46] <pestilence> Toyd: huh?
[07:46] <dragan> iwconfig
[07:46] <Toyd> http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:47] <epdp14> anybody here?
[07:47] <charwood> epdp14: Lots of people.  Hello.
[07:47] <aro> Yes, there are 424 people in here
[07:47] <nixternal> Toyd: that is awesome
[07:47] <nixternal> hahaha
[07:47] <epdp14> lol i meant people here at their comps, thanks
[07:47] <dragan> way too much ;-)
[07:47] <soulrider> Toyd: how did you do that? o.O
[07:47] <Xplosion> soulrider: :D
[07:48] <oliver> RT2500 Wireless
[07:48] <Xplosion> soulrider: it working now!
[07:48] <soulrider> Xplosion: awesome!
[07:48] <dragan> oliver: well that is more less same thing I have
[07:48] <Xplosion> soulrider: thanks a lot!
[07:48] <Toyd> magic
[07:48] <pestilence> Toyd: is that supposed to be funny?
[07:48] <soulrider> no prob Xplosion
[07:48] <epdp14> i have a quick question... does anyone know where to save a script to make it executable in bash? ive forgotten since I last did it
[07:48] <Xplosion> half an hour to install everytinhg, ha
[07:48] <soulrider> pestilence: its lines from IRC
[07:48] <soulrider> probably dynamically added there somehow
[07:48] <oliver> any ideas?
[07:48] <pestilence> soulrider: i understood that much
[07:48] <dragan> go to Control Panel.. network... and set up device to get info from DHCP save and restart
[07:49] <Toyd> lol
[07:49] <dragan> and go manual on network manager
[07:49] <soulrider> i didn tfind it funny, i just thought it was cool
[07:49] <dragan> restart device.. not system of course :-)
[07:49] <soulrider> im going, bbl
[07:49] <charwood> soulrider: Later.
[07:50] <pestilence> soulrider: the thing is, i only said the last two things.  the other two boxes that have "me" in it aren't things i said
[07:50] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[07:50] <oliver> control panel?!
[07:50] <dragan> system settings
[07:51] <dragan> too many new linux users do not understand system settings.. so control panel is the term ;-)
[07:51] <gigabytes> hello
[07:51] <oliver> lol
[07:52] <epdp14> oes anyone know where to save a script to make it executable in bash? - id really appreciate your help
[07:52] <dragan> what can I say... :-)
[07:52] <gigabytes> Is there an automatic way to create the iso image of the installation cd of kubuntu, starting from the dvd iso?
[07:52] <dragan> epdp14: chmod +x /path/to/script
[07:52] <epdp14> dragan: thanks a bunch
[07:52] <dragan> epdp14: that will make it executrable
[07:53] <dragan> ...
[07:53] <nixternal> Toyd: http://blog.nixternal.com/ :) thanks!
[07:53] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[07:54] <Toyd> lol
[07:55] <pestilence> so does knetwork-manager still suck in feisty?  or am i gonna love it.
[07:56] <oliver> dragan, it's still freezing on configuring device and now it's giving out a 169 ip address
[07:57] <dragan> try it few times....
[07:57] <dragan> go offline... than online...
[07:57] <dragan> I got it 5th or 6th time...
[07:58] <dragan> I guess that is due to signal failure... and/or dhcp client issue
[07:58] <pestilence> i guess it still sucks :)
[07:59] <dragan> well it works... after few tries ;-)
[07:59] <dragan> still I need an answer
[07:59] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[08:00] <pestilence> dragan: you want to just do this temporarily?
[08:00] <dragan> yes
[08:00] <dragan> while booting live CD
[08:00] <pestilence> dragan: i don't think there is a kernel option that disables it
[08:00] <dragan> so.. there is no way for me to boot&install at home
[08:00] <dragan> darn
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: there might be a way to blacklist a module.  if that were the case, you just blacklist the module for your network card
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: why can't you boot with network?
[08:01] <_benjo_> can someone please help me get my wireless card working...It worked after the initial install, but now I can't get it up no matter what I try
[08:01] <dragan> to much wifi networks around
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: i don't follow
[08:01] <dragan> _benjo_: what card?
[08:02] <oliver> still failing
[08:02] <dragan> pestilence: at work I got it up and running.... live cd.. but I was 20m far from AP
[08:02] <_benjo_> dragan, I have dwl-g520 from Dlink...
[08:02] <oliver> still fairing dragan
[08:02] <dragan> oliver: thatn you are too far away
[08:03] <ian__> hey guys
[08:03] <oliver> I am sat next to it lol
[08:03] <pestilence> dragan: what does that have to do with installing from cd?
[08:03] <dragan> than... I am lost
[08:03] <ian__> having a bit of trouble with an nvidia card on feisty :(
[08:03] <dragan> pestilence: cant get it to boot at home...
[08:03] <dragan> no way
[08:03] <oliver> it was working on the live cd
[08:03] <oliver> but not on the installed version
[08:03] <dragan> I got LIve CD to work AT work...
[08:03] <dragan> but at home... cant boot it
[08:04] <dragan> same CD same laptop
[08:04] <pestilence> dragan: i'll repeat:  what does this have to do with not starting network?  i'm confused.
[08:04] <dragan> it boots.. and starts loading.. up to !75%
[08:04] <dragan> and then hungs
[08:04] <pestilence> dragan: hrmm.
[08:04] <dragan> pestilence: wait
[08:05] <ian__> any idea why I have to run the nvidia driver installer EVERYTIME i start kubuntu
[08:05] <ian__> otherwise X wont start
[08:05] <dragan> pestilence: if you have network set to active on boot, and set up to dhcp... it will hung untill it gets what it needs .. right?
[08:05] <ian__> but when i install the drivers it works
[08:05] <ian__> then i reboot and it doesnt
[08:05] <gigabytes> ian__: don't use nvidia installer
[08:05] <gigabytes> install drivers using .deb packages
[08:05] <pestilence> dragan: no...it should time out.  but boot should continue anyways.
[08:06] <gigabytes> ian__: install them with adept from the restricted repository
[08:06] <dragan> pestilence: exactly... but if there is too much dhcp offers???
[08:06] <ian__> nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new gigabytes ?
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: the timeout should happen in the background.  regardless, the timeout will happen, and dhclient will be backgrounded (it may take a couple of minutes)
[08:06] <ian__> I've got a GeForce GO 7300
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: that's not the way it works ;)
[08:06] <gigabytes> ian__: hm... I have nvidia-glx but I don't know the difference
[08:06] <adz21c> don't do nvidia-glx-new its broken ... trust me lol
[08:06] <rinanir> do you know, how many types of distributions do ubuntu have? kubuntu,xubuntu,edubuntu ......
[08:06] <fdoving> dragan: you can try to hit ctrl-alt-del if it hangs for a long time. i belive that will kill the process hanging.
[08:06] <dragan> pestilence: I left it 15 minutes.. and it was just dead in the water
[08:06] <gigabytes> try to read packages descriptions
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: with wireless, you pick an ESSID.  it offers you DHCP or it doesn't.  either way, it should still boot.
[08:07] <adz21c> nvidia-glx-new is missing a file
[08:07] <ian__> then i need to set the driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf yeah?
[08:07] <dragan> ctrl+alt+del does not work
[08:07] <fdoving> dragan: ok. it does for me, in feisty.
[08:07] <gigabytes> ian__: it should be done automatically by the deb script if you haven't manually changed xorg.conf before
[08:08] <rinanir> do you know, how many types of distributions do ubuntu have? kubuntu,xubuntu,edubuntu ......
[08:09] <dragan> pestilence: whatever the reason is.. there are at least 5 availabel networks at my place... so what is going on.. I do not know,... but only difference between work and home is signal strength for wifi
[08:09] <gigabytes> rinanir: only those three
[08:09] <dragan> at work I can boot....at home I cant boot Live CD...
[08:09] <pestilence> dragan: when it hangs, can you hit ctrl+alt+f1?
[08:09] <dragan> I can hit... but without results
[08:09] <dragan> aaa sorry
[08:10] <dragan> I read ctrl alt del
[08:10] <rinanir> gigabytes, there are also fluxbuntu and some i dont remember
[08:10] <dragan> let me try...
[08:10] <rinanir> do anyone have the complete list
[08:10] <gigabytes> rinanir: I don't know of them
[08:11] <dragan> boot started
[08:11] <dragan> :-)
[08:12] <dragan> ctrl alt f1 works
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: i.e. you get a command prompt?
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: if so, you can kill whatever you think is causing the problem
[08:12] <dragan> says loading please wait
[08:12] <oliver> When I try and connect to a wireless network it hangs on Configuring Device
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: ah. that's no good
[08:12] <oliver> my card is RT2500 Wireless
[08:12] <dragan> loading...
[08:13] <pestilence> dragan: i think one of the f1-7 keys gives you a text readout of what your system is doibng
[08:13] <pestilence> try ctrl+alt+f7
[08:13] <dragan> hald
[08:13] <dragan> plip
[08:13] <dragan> hplip
[08:13] <dragan> son of a gun
[08:13] <pestilence> dragan: so it's still doing stuff?
[08:13] <dragan> motherf**ker booted !!!!
[08:14] <pestilence> dragan: heh
[08:14] <dragan> :-D
[08:14] <ian__> do i need nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig along with nvidia-glx ?
[08:14] <Toyd> pestilence,  it was a joke sorry
[08:14] <fdoving> rinanir: there are different names for different things. there is ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, nubuntu, fluxbuntu, ubuntu lite, elbuntu. probably more.
[08:14] <Toyd> sorry
[08:14] <pestilence> Toyd: no problem, the humor missed me :-D
[08:14] <dragan> cmon wifi... HIT ME NOW ;-)
[08:15] <rinanir> fdoving; do you know the name for embedded distro?
[08:15] <ian__> do i need nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig along with nvidia-glx ? ???
[08:15] <dragan> brb .. got to switch devices...
[08:15] <dragan> 10x all
[08:16] <utnubuk> when i try to boot up the latest live CD I get an error saying something went wrong with the filesystem.  does that mean my computer is too old for feisty???
[08:16] <utnubuk> also, the same error occurs when i pop in an old edgy cd and try to upgrade
[08:16] <fdoving> rinanir: Embedded Ubuntu? not sure, i found a launchpad spec. not much.
[08:16] <msoeken> is there a ubuntu equivalent settings menu item for enabling glx/aiglx stuff?
[08:16] <pestilence> utnubuk: no.  it means that something is wrong with the filesystem ;)
[08:16] <msoeken> in feisty
[08:17] <oliver> When I try and connect to a wireless network it hangs on Configuring Device
[08:17] <oliver> my card is RT2500 Wireless
[08:17] <oliver> any ideas
[08:17] <utnubuk> i tried 2 diferent disks tho, they work on other computers just fine and not my lappy...
[08:17] <fdoving> oliver: rt2500s does not work with network-manager, you need to use the old way. wlassistant should work.
[08:18] <fdoving> oliver: so should kwlan.
[08:18] <oliver> fdocing: how do I get the "old" way?
[08:18] <pestilence> utnubuk: i'm guessing it's trying to mount the disk on your laptop and encountering problems when doibng so
[08:19] <huib> anybody experience to get a Pinacle PCT USB2 working under v4l2?
[08:19] <utnubuk> if that was the problem how would I resolve it? also - another symptom - the desktop runs deathly slow once it boots and the install icon isnt present on the desktop
[08:19] <pestilence> utnubuk: what kind of hardware?  how much ram?
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: you would resolve it be repartitioning and reformatting your hard drive
[08:20] <utnubuk> 512 mb ram, 1.8 g processor
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: which can be done inside the installer
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: oh...that's plenty in terms of ram and processor.  it should run just fine
[08:21] <utnubuk> okay, i will do that, how do i initialize the installer if i dont have it's icon on the desktop?
[08:21] <oliver> what's the console command to get a program
[08:21] <oliver> apt-get?
[08:21] <pestilence> utnubuk: is this a cd that you burnt yourself, or an official cd?  perhaps the cd drive is having problems reading the cd?
[08:22] <ian__> mkay
[08:22] <ian__> i just installed nvidia-glx
[08:22] <utnubuk> pestilence: yes, i burnt it myself.  I tried two times on differant machines and neither one works on my laptop but they both work on other computers
[08:22] <ian__> for my GeForce Go 7300
[08:23] <pestilence> utnubuk: hmmm.
[08:23] <ian__> but xorg.conf is still using the nv driver
[08:23] <ian__> should i change it to nvidia and hope for the best?
[08:23] <utnubuk> is there a way to initialize thie install from konsole?
[08:23] <kalorin`> sure why not?
[08:23] <roter_kobold> hello
[08:24] <pestilence> utnubuk: i'm sure there is.  but i don't know what it would be :)
[08:24] <utnubuk> k thx for your help either way
[08:25] <ian__> ok that didnt work
[08:25] <ian__> gave me an error when starting X
[08:26] <ian__> said that the nvidia kernel was version 1.0-7184 and that the X module is 1.0-9631
[08:26] <ian__> any idea how to update the nvidia kernel to that of the X module?
[08:26] <adaptr> yes.. you'll have to manually remove any nvidia.com manual stuff
[08:27] <jthumb> I got a problem with my network ... somehow i can't ping/reach  my nextcompi.foo.local computers ... only "ping nextcompi" works ... but "ping nextcompi.foo.local" does not work for me
[08:27] <ian__> hm ok
[08:27] <adaptr> and install restricted modules to get the same version as glx
[08:27] <jthumb> computer network is set by dhcp
[08:27] <jthumb> does somebody know what to do?
[08:27] <ian__> how do i remove the nvidia.com garbage?
[08:28] <kalorin`> ian, yes I was just literally doing that a few minutes ago
[08:28] <kalorin`> on this very machine
[08:28] <kalorin`> updating the kernel module that is
[08:29] <ian__> and it worked after that?
[08:29] <kalorin`> sure
[08:29] <kalorin`> works great
[08:29] <kalorin`> got download the newest nvidia drivers
[08:29] <kalorin`> cause the ones you're working with are a revision old now
[08:29] <ian__> restricted modules are already installed
[08:29] <kalorin`> yeah you dont' need that with the new installeer
[08:29] <kalorin`> just grab that and tell me when you've got it
[08:30] <jovans> does anybody know a good performance guide for kubuntu 7.04?
[08:30] <kalorin`> also while that's pulling do an sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<kernel>
[08:30] <kalorin`> in my case that was 2.6.17-11-generic
[08:31] <ian__> already done
[08:31] <ubuntu> dragan here from laptop !
[08:31] <ubuntu> it works
[08:31] <ubuntu> yeessss
[08:31] <ian__> 2.6.20-15-generic for me
[08:31] <ian__> so just download the drivers straight from the nvidia site=
[08:31] <apus> alright! lets do this, I need some guidance on how to change out a driver for my sound card
[08:31] <kalorin`> yep
[08:31] <kalorin`> what's up apus?
[08:31] <froggie> hey, just wanted to say thanks, although linux is 'hard work' ;) i finally got java installed in dapper kubuntu, lols
[08:32] <kalorin`> as flaccid, I hear he's really good with sound cards :)
[08:32] <ian__> do i need to remove nvidia-glx first?
[08:32] <ubuntu> it still need some hands on tweaking... but it works... and that is most important
[08:32] <kalorin`> no just download stuff first
[08:32] <apus> because of my card I have to use alsa and a tool called envy24control this much I know, alsa-tools is installed (which includes envy24control)
[08:32] <kalorin`> get all the tools then do the work
[08:32] <ubuntu> bye all battery is about to die
[08:32] <apus> but when I try and run envy24control I get an error
[08:33] <ubuntu> oliver: if you choose to do manual on networkmanager... add your AP ssid in config and try again
[08:33] <apus> "invalid card type (driver is ICE1724)"  The envy control tool wants the ICE1712 driver
[08:33] <ubuntu> I am connected to ISP AP from more tan 500 meters... so it should work for you
[08:33] <ian__> hmm, it's saying the latest is NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run"
[08:33] <ubuntu> bye all
[08:33] <ian__> but my X module is 1.0-9631
[08:34] <apus> someone recommended using some rmod or something command (he was speaking in person so I dont know the letters) to remove the 1724 and install the 1712
[08:34] <kiko_> wenas
[08:34] <kalorin`> correct
[08:34] <kalorin`> we'll remove the old one
[08:35] <kalorin`> it'll build a new kernel and x module
[08:35] <kalorin`> you're going to just bash NVIDIAblah balh balh --kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-2.whatever is in /usr/src for the headers
[08:35] <kalorin`> and it'll prompt you for everything else
[08:35] <kalorin`> then reboot
[08:35] <kalorin`> pretty much that easy
[08:35] <apus> nvidia?
[08:36] <ian__> ok downloaded
[08:36] <dario> hello
[08:36] <apus> can you give me an exact example, and I will make the necessary changes
[08:37] <dario> kubuntu feisty installer cant migration tool
[08:37] <kalorin`> ok
[08:37] <kalorin`> did yo uget the kernel headers installed yet?
[08:37] <ian__> now just: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run --kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` ??
[08:37] <kalorin`> not yet
[08:37] <kalorin`> well no not exactly
[08:37] <kalorin`> do an ls of /usr/src
[08:37] <nico_> helo
[08:37] <patrik> I got ubuntu v 7.04 on my pc and I want to have xp to
[08:38] <patrik> how to?
[08:38] <kalorin`> ian?
[08:38] <ian__> ah: linux-headers-`uname -r` then
[08:38] <tux> where can i find ATI drivers for feisty
[08:38] <kalorin`> that's all you hav eto do
[08:38] <apus> kalorin`: ok, I have a -generic and a normal one
[08:38] <kalorin`> yeah I have the generic one as well
[08:39] <kalorin`> there are symlinks in it to the normal one
[08:39] <kalorin`> if you notice
[08:39] <ian__> I've got: linux-headers-2.6.20-15, and linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic
[08:39] <kalorin`> so you should use the -generic one I think
[08:39] <kalorin`> yeah try the generic one
[08:39] <kalorin`> cause some of the directories in it are symlinks
[08:39] <kalorin`> or
[08:39] <kalorin`> better
[08:39] <oliver> Thank you sooooo much people
[08:39] <kalorin`> apt-get remove linux-headers
[08:39] <kalorin`> answer yes
[08:39] <oliver> I am now wireless
[08:39] <kalorin`> then install the speicfic generic ones
[08:39] <ian__> ok
[08:39] <kalorin`> that'll get rid of that other directory
[08:39] <tux> wireless in ubuntu (kubuntu) rocks
[08:39] <kalorin`> or use a package manager
[08:39] <kalorin`> ok
[08:40] <kalorin`> I gotta split to a meeting
[08:40] <kalorin`> but I did that and it workd for me
[08:40] <kalorin`> took me a little while to figure out what it's complaint was
[08:40] <kalorin`> also it logs to /var/log/nvidia_installer or something such
[08:40] <ian__> should do that for the restricted modules to?
[08:40] <kalorin`> so you can look there if it doesn't work and it's pretty detailed
[08:40] <kalorin`> hrms..
[08:40] <kalorin`> no idea
[08:40] <ian__> remove the one without "-generic" on the end
[08:40] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips?
[08:40] <tux> but does anyone know where i can find ATI drivers for kubuntu?
[08:40] <kalorin`> yeah can't hurt
[08:40] <malik__> how do i get thumbnail previews for video files?.........any help plzzzzzz?
[08:40] <tux> 1024x768 sucks
[08:41] <kalorin`> if you're running the generic kernel those headers aren't doing anything for you
[08:41] <kalorin`> tux: ati.amd.com?
[08:41] <kalorin`> !ati
[08:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips? when clikcing on the programicons they wont start up
[08:41] <kalorin`> later guys
[08:41] <tux> well there where no feisty drivers last time i checked
[08:42] <tux> no support for the new x.org yet
[08:44] <apus> I've found something about an update to ice1712 to ice1724
[08:44] <malik__> how do i get thumbnail previews for video files?.........any help plzzzzzz?
[08:46] <malik__> should i install full kde ?
[08:46] <apus> what command will show me the control name for hardware
[08:46] <Tm_T> malik__: tumbnail previews in where?
[08:47] <malik__> Tm_T: in konqueror......i can see every other file except for video files in thumbnail shape
[08:48] <Tm_T> malik__: hmm, but they are played just fine?
[08:48] <tmbg> wow, that hp device manager is pretty sweet. I got my printer setup in literally about 15 seconds
[08:49] <malik__> Tm_T: they play just fine but i have alotta home videos of my son without title names.......n without thumbnails views i cant tell which one is which
[08:50] <Tm_T> malik__: I see, hmm, let me think... I wonder if some app provides that capability, like kmplayer
[08:50] <tmbg> the alignment on the page is way off though
[08:52] <malik__> Tm_T: i didnt had this problem in edgy..........two days ago installed fiesty n woooooooooooooof........i have Kmplayer/mplayer/VLC/realplayer/xine player/amarok.......installed already
[08:52] <apus> what is the command to see hardware list?
[08:52] <Tm_T> malik__: interesting
[08:53] <Black_Cat> hello. i've found some debian software packages, and i want to try them with kubuntu 6.06. what do you think will be most appropriate: packages for debian 4.0, 3.1 or 3.0 ?
[08:54] <malik__> and the option for video thumbnails isnt showin up anywhere in konqueror or system settings>Desktop>behaviour>file previews.
[08:54] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: which ever installs :-P
[08:54] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: dunno, but I expect 4.0 to be closest on
[08:54] <Tm_T> one
[08:54] <malik__> Tm_T: and the option for video thumbnails isnt showin up anywhere in konqueror or system settings>Desktop>behaviour>file previews.
[08:55] <Black_Cat> Tm_T, yeah, but i'll have to choose one to download :)) they're pretty heavy you know
[08:55] <Black_Cat> thanks :)
[08:55] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: tell me how it goes :)
[08:56] <Tm_T> malik__: hmh, let me check one thing...
[08:57] <apus> does anyone know the command to see the hardware list
[08:58] <Maneit> lspci shows some
[08:59] <lovloss> I cant seem to install feisty. It gets to the loading screen and then suddenly the monitor just goes out, light and all. Last thing i see if the text "kernel alive"
[09:00] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips? when clikcing on the programicons they wont start up
[09:00] <Tired_> Networking...I've used Samba to make my Windows shares accessible from my Kubuntu box...what do I use to make my Kubuntu shares visible from the Windows box?
[09:00] <tsdgeos> Tired_: samba
[09:00] <adz21c> lovloss: try make a custom boot call and eppend vga=791
[09:00] <adz21c> append*
[09:00] <apus> maneit thanks thats the one
[09:00] <tux> i installed the fglrx drivers
[09:00] <Tired_> oh, it goes both ways?
[09:01] <tsdgeos> Tired_: yes
[09:01] <tux> but still only low resolution
[09:01] <lovloss> adz21c: Greek.
[09:01] <Tired_> sweet
[09:01] <Bobbob> Hi all! Where would I find a list with keyboard combinations for KCeMirror? (And shouldn't the mouse work as well?)
[09:01] <dennister> hey Tired_ :)
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: what you mean your greek?
[09:02] <lovloss> adz21c: No, i mean you just spoke way over my head ^_^
[09:02] <Lars_G> what's the file name of the update center that aptana launches?
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: oh haha, got ya
[09:02] <Lars_G> python /tmp/kde-root/adept_manager7QuvPa.tmp-extract/dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE  is not working for me
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: hold on i try make it step by step :-)
[09:03] <roguejedix> Does anyone know how to recover the MBR after a failed Ubuntu install?
[09:03] <lovloss> adz21c: Are you sure thats the probelm though? what would i be fixing
[09:03] <Tired_> Hi denni
[09:03] <adz21c> lovloss: well i had the exact same problem, and for some reason it seems to be something about resolution i think, thats what vga does anyway
[09:04] <lovloss> adz21c: So normal setup cd should work for my SATA drive?
[09:04] <Tired_> hmm...can the pressing of buttons one and two simultaneously on the mouse be mapped to something other than the middle button, like say button 4 (which my mouse doesn't have)?
[09:04] <Lars_G> please :(
[09:04] <adz21c> lovloss: should do, i am on SATA HDD if thats what you mean
[09:04] <lovloss> adz21c: Alright... in that case, what should i do?
[09:04] <pestilence> so how come the only option in knetworkmanager for me is "manual configuration"...it doesn't show any of my connections, or any available wireless networks (there are some)
[09:05] <adz21c> lovloss: hold on trying to remember how i did it :-P
[09:05] <lovloss> ok
[09:06] <Lars_G> help? please?
[09:07] <adz21c> lovloss: oh no wait, thats what you will probably need to do when you have finally installed feisty
[09:08] <lovloss> adz21c: See i cant even boot off the cd without the monior dropping
[09:08] <malik__> Tm_T: any luck or tips or me? :)
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: ok when you got the menu up with boot options (Start Kubuntu and install, memtester etc) press F4 and choose a resolution (eg i chose 1280x1024 16)
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: then continue on as normal
[09:09] <Tm_T> malik__: ach, forgot!
[09:09] <Tm_T> malik__: I'm poking to 10 directions at the same time, sorry :--P
[09:09] <lovloss> thanks ill try it
[09:09] <malik__> Tm_T: thats oki thanx for tryin anyway
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: just to warn youy
[09:10] <thefirstdude> is it a good time to dist upgrade yet?
[09:10] <adz21c> lovloss: you will get the same problem when booting into feisty when its installed, u can fix it tho
[09:10] <lovloss> adz21c: how would i do it?
[09:10] <lovloss> and why is there a problem, this ocmputer's really good :/
[09:11] <Tm_T> malik__: ok, looks like all is working fine here, hard to say what is your issue
[09:11] <adz21c> lovloss: u highlight the option you want to boot into, Press 'e'
[09:11] <adz21c> lovloss: then u select second option and press 'e' again
[09:11] <lovloss> ok..
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: then u put 'vga=485' (u can change it after if it looks weird)
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: press Return, then press 'b'
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: and all is well, have you got a Geforce 8800 series?
[09:12] <thefirstdude> does anyone know if now is a good time to upgrade?
[09:12] <lovloss> No, im using a Radeon
[09:13] <adz21c> lovloss: oh ok thats that theory out the window, i don't know it happened to me and was quite annoying, so i don't know why its doingit
[09:13] <paulthe> how is kubuntu 7.04
[09:13] <tmbg> where is a guide to all of the eyecandy stuff now available in feisty?
[09:13] <lovloss> adz21c: Well im going to go try... thanks
[09:14] <adz21c> lovloss: good luck
[09:18] <phyerboss> hey has anyone ever come across an issue with beryl whereas, when opening certain windows you get a black space?
[09:19] <phyerboss> another issue i am having is that alot of times, the "shadows" of say, a menu from the kicker applet will get stuck on the screen
[09:20] <phyerboss> other than that, it moves and rotates smoothly...just those little issues are buggin me
[09:21] <horde>  /exit
[09:21] <frojnd> is there any better sound controler than alsamixer. I lost my patient with setupin my headphones settings. Sound is all scrathed, vocals can't be heard...
[09:21] <apus> how do I use rmod or something to uninstall and reinstall a driver
[09:22] <tmske> I just installed kubuntu and want to connect to wpa wireless but KNetworkManager doesn't show wpa encryption as an option, any ideas?
[09:26] <lovloss> it didnt work...
[09:26] <lovloss> adz21c: Got me to the loading screen, same result after that
[09:26] <adz21c> lovloss: you changed the resolution?
[09:27] <lovloss> adz21c: Yep :/
[09:27] <adz21c> lovloss: obviously not exactly same problem as mine, did u try several resolutions?
[09:28] <lovloss> adz21c: yes, i did
[09:29] <mattik_> Hello. How can I get finnish keymap back after xgl/installing_
[09:30] <adz21c> lovloss: don't know then sorry, that fixed it for me
[09:30] <TheCreationist> How do I shut down X?
[09:30] <alexandre> tmske:  are you sure when it show you the options of your.. WLAN can't you select WPA?
[09:30] <alexandre> you must be installed wpa_supplicant .. but KNetworkmanager should be install itself..
[09:31] <alexandre> review it.. but.. it soudn't be the problem..
[09:32] <acetoxy> hm, it seems like neither ktorrent nor kopete can connect to the Internet. I dont know why.
[09:32] <Ra_> i can't open adept... i just install automatix
[09:33] <Arwen> DON'T INSTALL AUTOMATIX
[09:33] <TheCreationist> !automatix | Ra_
[09:33] <ubotu> Ra_: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:34] <Ra_> so, what i must to do to uninstall automatix and make my adept working
[09:36] <Ra_> if i must install fresh ubuntu, it spent a long time. i have to set many behaviour for my pleasure
[09:36] <TheCreationist> Ra_: It's possible you can't without reinstalling now.
[09:36] <leleobhz> someone know how can i put the mac os x icon zoom effect}
[09:36] <leleobhz> ?
[09:37] <Ra_> hiks .......... i must reinstall my ubuntu ???
[09:38] <tmske> alexandre: it shows wep, but no wpa, on my laptop it's ok, could it be that it's something with wireless card?
[09:39] <apus> can anyone help me with my sound card
[09:39] <apus> it was working, not it doesn't
[09:39] <leleobhz> apus: what}
[09:39] <leleobhz> ?
[09:39] <tmske> apus: have you installed or changed things since then?
[09:39] <apus> tmske yes, I followed the advice of someone in this channel now it doesn't work
[09:40] <alexandre> tmske it should be.. but I can assure you...
[09:40] <leleobhz> apus: lspci | grep -i multimedia
[09:41] <morten_> Hi
[09:41] <apus> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:41] <leleobhz> my god.... via...
[09:41] <leleobhz> ok
[09:41] <leleobhz> lsmod | grep via
[09:41] <leleobhz> if too long, paste it plz
[09:41] <apus> same thing
[09:41] <apus> just 1
[09:43] <tmske> alexandre: wpa_supplicant is installed, is there a way to test if my wireless card supports it
[09:43] <apus> leleobhz: someone had me try the envy24control but that only supports ICE1712 and hasn't been updated, this uses ICE1724
[09:43] <apus> leleobhz: I found some things about how to get the spdif to work without envy24 (which is why I asked in the first place) but I will need to get it working again
[09:44] <leleobhz> ook
[09:44] <leleobhz> apus: paste it for me plz
[09:45] <apus> paste what?
[09:45] <leleobhz> lsmod
[09:45] <leleobhz> what module are up}
[09:45] <leleobhz> ?
[09:46] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17281/
[09:46] <charwood> Hello again.  I'm starting to get desperate.  I can't find anyone who has the same problem on google.  I cannot get MergedFB to work under Feisty (or anything else for that matter).
[09:46] <charwood> If anyone has an ATI card and is using MergedFB, I would be very pleased to hear how you did it.
[09:48] <leleobhz> apus: lets see
[09:48] <Roey> hi, why does XChat have problems looking up IRC server when it's connecting, while at the same time I can ping them fine from an xterm? It happens with more than one IRC server (EFNet, OFTC and Freenode, here)
[09:50] <leleobhz> apus: intel controller}
[09:50] <tmbg> where is a guide to all of the eyecandy stuff now available in feisty?
[09:50] <leleobhz> ?
[09:50] <apus> leleobhz: onboard audio, I dont use it
[09:50] <balint> hi, can i install kubuntu 6.10 edgy on ms virtual server 2005?
[09:51] <leleobhz> apus: because have notting here about via
[09:51] <leleobhz> apus: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[09:51] <apus> leleobhz: all that ice1724 stuff is the envy24 chip
[09:51] <leleobhz> paste it
[09:51] <leleobhz> hmmm
[09:51] <leleobhz> paste this cat and the dmesg plz
[09:51] <leleobhz> lets see
[09:52] <frojnd> how can I disconnect line in in the alsamixer? wil decreasing sound to 0, and mute help?
[09:52] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17282/
[09:52] <leleobhz> (well, noone know how to enable macos icon zoom effect?)
[09:53] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17283/
[09:53] <leleobhz> [   13.347592]  ice1724: Invalid EEPROM version 1
[09:53] <leleobhz> hmm
[09:53] <leleobhz> interesting....
[09:53] <apus> leleobhz: ive read about that in forums
[09:53] <leleobhz> i think i know what is
[09:53] <leleobhz> plz paste the lspci again
[09:54] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?
[09:54] <leleobhz> (what wories me is: [   13.210257]  hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS...)
[09:54] <apus> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:54] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17284/
[09:55] <leleobhz> apus: wait 3 minutes
[09:56] <netwit> hi everybody!
[09:56] <netwit> I have a Dell laptop and replacing the default MBR screws up the Dell Restore Facility, so I want to preserve the current MBR, install the boot loader on the Ubuntu boot partition and boot linux using the Windows XP NTLDR/boot.ini. During the installation process, I didn't see any option for choosing where to install the bootloader..
[09:56] <leleobhz> hm
[09:56] <leleobhz> netwit: well
[09:56] <leleobhz> you want to boot linux fron ntldr
[09:56] <leleobhz> first
[09:56] <leleobhz> install boot manager into YOU LINUX PARTITION
[09:57] <leleobhz> (install with alternate media plz)
[09:57] <netwit> yup
[09:57] <netwit> but where's the option to do that..
[09:57] <leleobhz> netwit: alternate install ;)
[09:57] <netwit> I could find anything in the installation process..
[09:57] <netwit> how to do a alternate install ??
[09:58] <piway> y'a-t-il des franais ici?
[09:58] <Doctor_Nick> !fr
[09:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:58] <piway> !fr
[09:58] <leleobhz> netwit: download kubuntu-alternate iso image
[09:59] <gdiebel> !dapper
[09:59] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[09:59] <leleobhz> well
[09:59] <leleobhz> netwit:this doc can help you
[09:59] <leleobhz> netwit: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !breezy
[09:59] <ubotu> breezy is the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger".  Upgrading to !dapper : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:59] <jhutchins> leleobhz: Since you already have it installed, just use the instructons on restoring grub to install it to the new location.
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !curdgemuffin
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curdgemuffin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <leleobhz> jhutchins: nope
[09:59] <leleobhz> jhutchins: he wants to bootup linux from ntldr
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !feisty
[09:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:59] <leleobhz> is another procedure
[09:59] <netwit> leleobhz: thanks man!
[10:00] <leleobhz> Doctor_Nick: can you ask in pvt to the bot?
[10:00] <jhutchins> leleobhz: Yeah, he doesn't need to reinstall.
[10:00] <leleobhz> err
[10:00] <Doctor_Nick> probably
[10:00] <leleobhz> more or less
[10:00] <Doctor_Nick> but whats the fun in that?
[10:00] <leleobhz> restore the ntldr is a shit
[10:00] <Roey> hi, why does XChat have problems looking up IRC server when it's connecting, while at the same time I can ping them fine from an xterm? It happens with more than one IRC server (EFNet, OFTC and Freenode, here)
[10:00] <acemo> <- is happy with his new "powered by kubuntu" laptop sticker <3
[10:00] <leleobhz> acemo: use /me
[10:00] <leleobhz> /me is happy....
[10:01] <main2> i have two network interfaces, eth0 and eth1 -> both are active after booting (eth1 is WLAN btw)
[10:01] <main2> but if i dont turn off eth0, then i cant use my network / inet
[10:01] <leleobhz> acemo: hehe
[10:01] <starhawk> hi
[10:01] <main2> so my question is, what specifies which ethernet adapter is used?
[10:01] <jhutchins> main2: I take it eth0 isn't connected?
[10:01] <acemo> leleobhz: tnx :)
[10:01] <main2> jhutchins, thats correct
[10:01] <leleobhz> ;] 
[10:01] <main2> (but it has a static ip bound to it, in /etc/network/interfaces)
[10:01] <jhutchins> main2: I believe the config is in /etc/sysconfig/network.
[10:01] <leleobhz> well, back to apus problem
[10:02] <jhutchins> Oh, yeah.
[10:02] <jhutchins> main2: Basically, what you need to do is either specify the default route/gateway as eth1.
[10:02] <starhawk>  I would like to know how to use amule I installed it but nothing is happening
[10:02] <jhutchins> main2: You can also create an alias in the modules config files that "turns off" the card.
[10:02] <main2> jhutchins, ok - i think that i need to get my routing sorted then...
[10:03] <blahhh45> Does anyone know what the differences is in kubuntu alternative and desktop 7.04? Im about to download it.
[10:03] <main2> i added a gateway for the ethernet adapter in /etc/network/interfaces tough :/
[10:03] <jhutchins> main2: You can add the name of the driver to  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in order to disable the interface.
[10:04] <main2> jhutchins, mwa.. but i connect to LAN sometimes as well........
[10:04] <jhutchins> main2: So comment it out.
[10:04] <blahhh45> Anyone?
[10:05] <leleobhz> apus: try to load these modules
[10:05] <leleobhz> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=AudioTrak&card=Prodigy+7.1.&chip=Envy24HT&module=ice1724
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: I'm not as familiar with ubuntu's network configuration, part of the problem is that it auto-detects hardware at each boot.
[10:05] <main2> blahhh45, only use alternative if you have problems with the normal - desktop version
[10:05] <acemo> blahhh45: the desktop cd u can try out the os before installing
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: In the old style config, you used to be able to configure atboot=NO in the ifcfg-eth0 file.
[10:05] <starhawk>  I would like to know how to use amule I installed it but nothing is happening
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: I don't know where you'd put that for ubuntu.
[10:05] <blahhh45> Okay thanks
[10:06] <main2> jhutchins, im following you yes :)
[10:06] <blahhh45> I'm not going to have internet where I'm installing it to, is there a site where I can get all the updates for it now and config. them later?
[10:06] <apus> i have to go to class, thanks for the link leleobhz
[10:07] <main2> jhutchins, im gonna check my routing first i think :)
[10:07] <jhutchins> main2: I'm looking for where you could do that in ubuntu...
[10:07] <apus> leleobhz: actually im not going
[10:08] <stepnjump> Hi everyone. Im new to Kubuntu and I love it but I would like to install firefox. I already downloaded it. How do I install it? It's a .tar.gz?  Thanks in advance....
[10:08] <Ashex> stepnjump, sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:08] <fdoving> !software | stepnjump
[10:08] <ubotu> stepnjump: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:08] <Ashex> or open up adept manager
[10:08] <Ashex> Oooo
[10:09] <Ashex> I didn't know about that trigger
[10:09] <stepnjump> Awesom. Thanks a lot ubotu
[10:09] <apus> leleobhz: where do I get the alsa package it wants me to install?
[10:10] <blahhh45> So, I take it theres not a site to download all the updates now and install them later then?
[10:11] <mwolff> hey guys, after upgrading to Feisty my system doesn't boot anymore (doesn't find hard drives) ... I've read in the forums that kernel 2.6.20-13 is supposed to work better in these cases... is there an easy way to install the older kernel version using apt-get??
[10:11] <mwolff> (in case you're wondering, I'm now using Feisty with Edgy's old 2.6.17 kernel)
[10:12] <jhutchins> main2: Word from those who know: Simply edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the lines for eth0.
[10:12] <apus> leleobhz: it worked on install, is there a way to recompile the kernel?
[10:13] <_Neil> im behind a forced proxy.. how can i make synaptic/package managers work, it doesnt connect? I've specified the http proxy in options...
[10:13] <main2> jhutchins, ok good idea :)
[10:13] <leleobhz> apus: did you recompiled the kernel}
[10:13] <leleobhz> ?
[10:13] <apus> leleobhz: no
[10:13] <main2> jhutchins, *** i just entered 'reboot' :D
[10:13] <leleobhz> apus: recompiled something?
[10:13] <apus> leleobhz: no
[10:14] <jhutchins> main2: Fingers crossed...
[10:14] <apus> all I did was apt-get install alsa-tools
[10:14] <apus> and it broke it
[10:14] <leleobhz> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:14] <leleobhz> explained
[10:14] <leleobhz> remove it with a purge
[10:14] <apus> example command please
[10:14] <leleobhz> sudo dpkg --purge alsa-tools
[10:14] <leleobhz> apus: shure ;] 
[10:14] <_Neil> hey guys, how do i make apt-get and synaptic work behind a forced http proxy?
[10:15] <apus> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove alsa-tools which isn't installed.
[10:15] <jhutchins> apus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29060
[10:15] <fuzzy> hola a todos
[10:15] <fuzzy> estoy apunto de instalar o xgl o aiglx en kubuntu feisty
[10:15] <ramiro82> ayudfa
[10:15] <ubuntu__> hi kde users
[10:15] <fuzzy> k me recomendais
[10:15] <ramiro82> ayuda
[10:15] <fuzzy> glx o aiglx
[10:15] <jhutchins> !es
[10:15] <ubuntu__> aiglx
[10:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:16] <apus> is there a command to see packages?
[10:16] <fuzzy> dicen k consume mucho mas el aiglx
[10:16] <leleobhz> ramiro82: ?
[10:16] <ramiro82> fakiu
[10:16] <leleobhz> ramiro82: here only english ;] 
[10:16] <ramiro82> leleobhz
[10:16] <ramiro82> thanks
[10:17] <leleobhz> ramiro82: #ubuntu-br or #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <ubuntu__> hello
[10:17] <apus> !br
[10:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:17] <elena__> ok- I destroyed the computer. I tried to log off, the system hung, and now when I try to boot it says "File system check failed. Please repair the file system manually." "fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID-4cb4bdba...."
[10:17] <fuzzy> ubuntu
[10:17] <apus> what command will show me the installed packages?
[10:17] <fuzzy> tu tienes instalado el aiglx?
[10:17] <elena__> can anyone help me
[10:18] <leleobhz> apus: ?
[10:18] <Ashex> elena__, in the prompt you get after that, run the command e2fsck -p /dev/foo
[10:18] <leleobhz> apus: hohoh, idunno about !br
[10:18] <javaxDOTswing> !es
[10:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:18] <Ashex> for foo usewhatever drive it mentions
[10:18] <javaxDOTswing> solo ingles aqui
[10:18] <Arwen> elena__, do you have a live cd?
[10:18] <elena__> yes arwen
[10:18] <apus> leleobhz: so I can see what other alsa things are installed
[10:18] <leleobhz> dpkg -S
[10:18] <leleobhz> but is a little slow
[10:18] <leleobhz> :] 
[10:18] <Arwen> elena__, boot it and edit the fstab on your b0rk3d partition to point to device names instead of UUIDs
[10:19] <apus> dpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument
[10:19] <elena__> pl arwen I'll try it
[10:20] <elena__> arwen- by device names, do you mean like /dev/sda2 etc?
[10:20] <Arwen> yes
[10:20] <Arwen> you know which ones should go where, right?
[10:21] <elena__> I know sda2 is the main file system.... I don't know where it should go really
[10:21] <leleobhz> apus: put it
[10:21] <leleobhz> dpkg -S alsa
[10:21] <elena__> and i don't know which is the swap drive- I have sda 1 2 3 4- canI look at an old boot log to see??
[10:21] <apus> yeah, there are tons
[10:22] <apus> im about ready to switch to windows
[10:22] <apus> ive been trying to solve this for 2 days
[10:22] <apus> no sound card support on a 4 year old chipset!
[10:22] <elena__> apus, what's the problem?
[10:22] <elena__> what's the name of the soundcard?
[10:22] <apus> my sound card doesn't work after installing alsa tools, in an attempt to get the spdif to work
[10:23] <apus> chaintech av710 envy24ht-s chipset
[10:23] <leleobhz> apus: try to restart you system
[10:23] <leleobhz> lets see if it will be transparent
[10:23] <Doctor_Nick> CANT PROTECT EVERYONE!!! >:(
[10:23] <Arwen> elena__, well, if you don't know which disk is which.... but you can use the gparted on the live cd to figure out what kind of partitions they are - maybe that'll help?
[10:23] <Doctor_Nick> oops
[10:23] <apus> brb
[10:25] <gemidjy> what is default icon theme in Feisty ?
[10:25] <_StefanS_> gemidjy: crystal
[10:25] <Arwen> Human
[10:25] <_StefanS_> yea
[10:25] <leleobhz> well
[10:25] <Arwen> or Crystal SVG for Kubuntu
[10:25] <leleobhz> noone know how to put macos icon effect on kubuntu?
[10:26] <elena__> arwen should I change it back later? does it matter if I just keep the device names likes they are?
[10:26] <aro> Anyone know how I can figure out the UUID of a partition that I know is setup properly but not located in fstab (I want to manually add it to fstab)
[10:26] <Arwen> elena__, after you repair your devices, it should be safe to convert back
[10:27] <Arwen> aro, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[10:27] <apus> back
[10:27] <aro> Arwen, thanks much.
[10:27] <fdoving> aro: as arwen says, or 'sudo vol_id -u /dev/device'
[10:28] <leleobhz> apus: with sound?
[10:28] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: what effect do you mean ?
[10:28] <Amara_Emerson> hey, i installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, now when in gnome my gtk apps all use a weird theme. any ideas why?
[10:28] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: the zoom effect
[10:29] <apus> no
[10:29] <leleobhz> when the mouse is over the icon
[10:29] <leleobhz> apus: some difference in dmesg?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: just enable "visual feedback on activation" inside system settings  -> Keyboard & mouse -> Mouse
[10:29] <apus> leleobhz: yep
[10:29] <Arwen> Amara_Emerson, file a bug, that stuff happens when you try to use kde and gnome at the same time
[10:30] <Kimppa> Hello. I've just installed kubuntu 7.04. Everything seems to be working, except that I don't know how to mount my other hard drive (ext3). Can someone please give me some directions?
[10:30] <leleobhz> apus: what?
[10:30] <Arwen> Kimppa, uh "mount -t ext3 /dev/foo /mnt/bar"
[10:31] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: do you want it to stick after you reboot also?, if so you have to write it inside /etc/fstab
[10:31] <Kimppa> Arwen: preferably to fstab. There's some new UUID stuff that I haven't seen beofre
[10:31] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[10:31] <Arwen> Kimppa, is your hard drive internal?
[10:31] <Kimppa> Arwen: yes
[10:31] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: use that instead of the /dev/xxx notation
[10:31] <Arwen> Kimppa, then what _StefanS_ said
[10:31] <apus> leleobhz: same dmesg ice1724: Invalid EEPROM version 1
[10:31] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: is when you put the mouse over the icon
[10:31] <Arwen> use that to find which link points to your disk and add an appropriate fstab line
[10:31] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: when you click the icons
[10:31] <leleobhz> apus: only this?
[10:32] <leleobhz> no when you click
[10:32] <leleobhz> when mouseover
[10:32] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: you want an effect on mouse over ?
[10:32] <Kimppa> Arwen: thanks. It's been a while since I've last done this, what options should I use to get read/write access to it?
[10:33] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: does so automatically
[10:33] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: yeap
[10:33] <leleobhz> apus: ...
[10:33] <apus> leleobhz: its the same as before
[10:33] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: 2secs
[10:33] <leleobhz> let me think
[10:33] <Arwen> Kimppa, UUID=whatever /mnt/foobar ext3 defaults 0 2
[10:33] <Kimppa> ok, so I'll just leave "options", "dump" and "pass" empty in fstab?
[10:34] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: system settings -> appearance -> Icons -> Advanced(tab)
[10:34] <Arwen> no, you can't omit anything
[10:34] <aro> Arwen, I've added my partition to fstab, but when I "sudo mount /dev/sdb4" it just returns "mount: mount point /dev/sdb4 is not a directory"
[10:34] <aro> But I can see /sdb4 when I look in /dev
[10:34] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: I have mine like this: UUID=08064054-4ac0-49ee-9942-6ea2c6bc511f /extra          ext3   defaults,errors=remount-ro     0       1
[10:34] <pestilence> aro: syntax is "mount device directory"
[10:34] <Arwen> aro, you need a point point after that "mount -t ext3 whatever whereever"
[10:34] <Arwen> mount point*
[10:35] <Kimppa> _StefanS_, Arwen : thank you, got it working!
[10:35] <_StefanS_> Kimppa: glad you did :)
[10:35] <aro> Thank you.
[10:35] <aro> Got it working now :)
[10:35] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: did you find it ?
[10:35] <apus> brb
[10:36] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: yeap
[10:36] <Amara_Emerson> Arwen: thanks, ill go and do that
[10:36] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: oka great.
[10:36] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: but what to do here?
[10:36] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: "Set effect"
[10:36] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: on "Active"
[10:36] <aro> OK well, now the mount shows up, but since it's an ntfs partition, I'm getting "access denied" errors :(
[10:36] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: same as mouseover
[10:37] <_StefanS_> aro: you might need to specify something to let regular users have access to the ntfs files
[10:37] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: what to select
[10:37] <aro> Yea, that's what I'm guessing
[10:38] <leleobhz> what have here only setup the color
[10:38] <elena__> arwen thanks for the help- it worked
[10:38] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: ehh.. well wasn't that what you wanted?
[10:38] <leleobhz> _StefanS_: zoom effect on panel icons
[10:38] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: when you hover your mouse over the icon, you get a visual indication
[10:38] <leleobhz> nop
[10:38] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: ah jeez
[10:38] <leleobhz> this are activated
[10:38] <apus> Sound server fatal error:
[10:38] <apus> AudioSubSystem::handleIO: write failed
[10:38] <apus> len = -1, can_write = 4096, errno = 22 (Invalid argument)
[10:38] <apus> This might be a sound hardware/driver specific problem (see aRts FAQ
[10:39] <elena__> but I've been having another problem that is keeping me from using kubuntu all the time- when I scroll in programs, like firefox, there is a small delay of maybe one second every time I scroll at all- do you think this is a driver problem, or something else?
[10:39] <leleobhz> apus: use mplayer -ao alsa
[10:39] <leleobhz> plz
[10:39] <frojnd> does anyone uses here speakers and a microphone and if how must be settings in alsamixer???
[10:39] <_StefanS_> elena__: you probably have smooth scroll enabled
[10:39] <elena__> _StefanS_ where can I disable it?
[10:39] <apus> leleobhz: I dont have mplayer I can use amarok
[10:40] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: to have that sort of effect you need to install something like ksmoothdock or kiba
[10:40] <_StefanS_> leleobhz: kde doesn't support that out of the box
[10:40] <_StefanS_> elena__: preferences hmm .. let me check
[10:41] <leleobhz> lest see
[10:41] <_StefanS_> elena__: you could also have the need for an accelerated video driver maybe. But try Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced in firefox
[10:41] <apus> how come bery no longer loads itself as the default windows manager, it used to
[10:41] <elena__> _StefanS_ not just in firefox though- if I move a window around on the screen, it also does this- it looks like it renders from the top of the screen to the bottom and it takes about 1 second
[10:41] <_StefanS_> apus: just change it once, and it will. Had the same issue yesterday
[10:42] <apus> stefans this is the 20th time ive changed it
[10:42] <_StefanS_> elena__: you need accelerated video driver
[10:42] <_StefanS_> apus: sorry dont know then. Try beryl wiki on beryl-project.org
[10:42] <elena__> _StefanS_ I have a nvidia video card, should I get the nvidia glx driver?
[10:42] <_StefanS_> elena__: definitely
[10:42] <apus> so give up on the soundcard?
[10:42] <apus> aka, switch OS
[10:43] <elena__> _StefanS_ do I need to restart after I download, or just restart X windows?
[10:43] <_StefanS_> apus: what probs you have about the soundcard?
[10:43] <_StefanS_> elena__: restart x
[10:43] <_StefanS_> elena__: oh wait, you have to reboot I think
[10:43] <elena__> ok I will try
[10:43] <apus> stefans: it doesn't work, it did but alsa messed it up and it doesn't work,
[10:43] <_StefanS_> elena__: it installs, but try just restarting X first.
[10:44] <Ashex> apus, for beryl questions, join #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <Arwen> apus, or #beryl :-)
[10:45] <_StefanS_> apus: well I need a little more information on that... what is messed up ? did the sound work in edgy ? did you unmute your card ?
[10:45] <_StefanS_> whatever.
[10:45] <_StefanS_> I'm off
[10:45] <_StefanS_> good night
[10:45] <Ashex> night
[10:45] <apus> now im getting an error every 5 seconds poping up about my sound
[10:46] <_StefanS_> apus: did you catch that last sentence i wrote?
[10:46] <apus> im about done with this nightmare, I just want a common soundcard to work, the chipset is 4 years old, its a popular card, and yet no one has taken the time to update the alsa driver for 3 years
[10:46] <apus> no
[10:46] <_StefanS_> apus: what is messed up ? did the sound work in edgy ? did you unmute your card ?
[10:46] <_StefanS_> apus: any errors?
[10:47] <apus> unmute my card?
[10:47] <_StefanS_> apus: dmesg ?
[10:47] <apus> are you serious?
[10:47] <_StefanS_> apus: well yes, alsa has tendency to mute the card by default
[10:47] <apus> tim@apus:~$ dmesg | grep ice17
[10:47] <apus> [   13.325698]  ice1724: Invalid EEPROM version 1
[10:47] <_StefanS_> apus: oh well.. didn't se that
[10:47] <_StefanS_> apus: se/see
[10:48] <elena__> I installed the drivers but it didn't work- how can I check to make sure the drivers are being used?
[10:48] <_StefanS_> elena__: well you need to switch the driver in xorg.conf from 'nv' 'nvidia'
[10:49] <_StefanS_> elena__: check using glxinfo|grep direct
[10:49] <_StefanS_> elena__: should say yes when it works
[10:49] <_StefanS_> I'm off,
[10:49] <apus> is there anywhere I can go to get more direct support
[10:49] <_StefanS_> elena__: theres alot of resources in the ubuntuforums about this
[10:50] <elena__> it says xlib- glx extension missing on display
[10:50] <elena__> and where should this 'nv' be in xorg.con?
[10:51] <_StefanS_> apus: have you tried compiling alsa yourself?
[10:51] <apus> it appears the problem is that someone MESSED UP http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27155 and thumbed in the wrong ID number
[10:52] <_StefanS_> apus: well people tend to mess up. That only human nature.
[10:52] <_StefanS_> that/thats
[10:53] <Arwen> mplayer reports Selected audio codec: [ffwmav2]  afm: ffmpeg (DivX audio v2 (FFmpeg)) - divx audio?
[10:54] <apus> its still a little rediculous that end users are having a hell of a problem and are being required to recompile a kernel just because the hardware id was a typo, and its a known issue so why is it not fixeX?
[10:55] <apus> i still cant get it to work tho, the file im supose to edit is dne
[10:56] <apus> whats the easiest way to start over??
[10:57] <apus> just want to reinstall the default packages and what-not
[10:57] <fixit4u> does anyone know a good step by step for setting up ATI video card on 7.04
[10:58] <bonaldo2000> Nothing happens when I insert a cd in my cd-rom drive! Any ideas? I am using Feisty...
[10:59] <Eruantalon> Have you opened Storage Media?
[10:59] <bonaldo2000> Eruantalon: yes...I get an autorun pup-up but there is nothing in the cdrom0 folder...
[11:01] <tatra> ahoj, mate nekdo predstavu, proc K3B pali pomalu DVD, rychlosti 0,5?
[11:01] <Maneit> !cz
[11:01] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:02] <crazy_penguin> Good night!
[11:02] <tatra> ok
[11:02] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?
[11:03] <bonaldo2000> Eruantalon: hm, it seems to be only DVDs it wont read
[11:07] <bonaldo2000> It seems to be a known bug I see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95868 . That is PRETTY bad for a final release that is upposed to be user friendly. Well I was able to mount it manually.
[11:09] <Eruantalon> bonaldo2000: There are to many of those
[11:11] <mark5> Enter text here...
[11:11] <mark5> hello
[11:11] <easytiger> how do you get compiz to run in feisty?
[11:12] <mark5> I cant connect wireless in feisty
[11:12] <tmske> Is there an easy way to let apt-get reinstall the original config files of a program?
[11:13] <Columcille> easytiger: Been trying to figure that one out myself
[11:13] <mark5> if i add settings manually I still can't ping my router - please help!
[11:13] <easytiger> i thought the point was it came with this stuff preconfigured?
[11:13] <Columcille> it's a piece of cake under ubuntu/Gnome, I've yet to really have luck with it in Kubuntu
[11:13] <mark5> always worked fine in previous versions :(
[11:14] <mark5> onboard wireless Asus A7V
[11:14] <mzelem> I just installed a new feisty install, and I installed samba and smbfs but whenever I try to view my windows samba shares it times out, does anyone know why it would do that?
[11:15] <mark5> cad is detected but I'm unable to configure it to connect
[11:15] <depquid> any reason why a kubuntu install image won't work on a CD-RW in a DVD drive?
[11:16] <jannes> how do I enable smooth scolling in kde?
[11:16] <trevor4> .
[11:16] <mzelem> does anyone know how to check and make sure that the samba client is using the Guest account?
[11:17] <easytiger> and when i upgraded it wont let me have multiple gdmflex server sessions
[11:22] <Ashex> who wants to be awesome and digg this! http://digg.com/tech_news/AMD_declares_first_quarter_a_terrible_start_into_the_year
[11:23] <snikker> phpmyadmin (on feisty) when i click on a link (or button), kick me on login page at random...
[11:23] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I install a monitor- or get my computer to recognize it? it just says 'generic monitor' in xorg.conf
[11:25] <mark0> I have problems trying to get my onboard Asus A7V wireless card to connect to my network - it's detected, but i'm unable to ping the router. I set it up manually but still no joy "network inaccessible"
[11:25] <mark0> ...I think is the error
[11:26] <apus> !nvidia
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:27] <mark0> On previous versions of k/ubuntu i've never had this problem - I can always configure the SSID and just connect
[11:27] <apus> whats the command line way to install nvidia drivers
[11:30] <Arwen> apus, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:31] <javaxDOTswing> any idea how i can get flash to work properly with feisty?
[11:31] <Arwen> or, actually, apt-get install nvidia-glx-appropriatetype
[11:31] <Arwen> javaxDOTswing, um, yes? apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:31] <blahhh45> where can I go for updates to download on a cd? I don't have internet where i'm installing kubuntu
[11:31] <blahhh45> the version I have is 7.04 fiesta
[11:31] <blahhh45> or fiesty or what ever it is
[11:32] <LeeJunFan> blahhh45: well, as of right now I don't think there are any updates.
[11:32] <Arwen> blahhh45, there's a page with nightly builds of Ubuntu, but I forget where
[11:32] <javaxDOTswing> "not available" Arwen o_O
[11:32] <Arwen> javaxDOTswing, uh..
[11:32] <javaxDOTswing> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:32] <javaxDOTswing> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:32] <javaxDOTswing> is only available from another source
[11:32] <javaxDOTswing> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[11:32] <Arwen> javaxDOTswing, I see em - have you done "apt-get update"? and do you have UMR on?
[11:32] <sito> hi everybody!!!
[11:33] <Arwen> oh wait, flashplugin... javaxDOTswing, are you on 64-bit?
[11:33] <LeeJunFan> blahhh45: but if you want to keep your own local mirror you'll want to learn how to use debmirror.
[11:33] <blahhh45> Well I remember with drake for any program I wanted I had to install tons of stuff.. Does 7.04 have most of those files so if I download a program it won't request additional files?
[11:33] <javaxDOTswing> yeah i am Arwen
[11:34] <Arwen> javaxDOTswing, repeat after me... There is NO 64-bit flash... There is NO 64-bit flash...
[11:34] <javaxDOTswing> D:
[11:34] <javaxDOTswing> omg that sucks
[11:34] <Eruantalon> Arwen: Be nice
[11:34] <Eruantalon> gnash?
[11:34] <Eruantalon> !gnash
[11:34] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:34] <Eruantalon> perhaps
[11:34] <blahhh45> leejunfan: did you read my last msg?
[11:34] <Arwen> javaxDOTswing, you can go to mozilla.org, download the 32-bit firefox, install ia32libs, and then get adobe's flash player and link it to 32-bit firefox...
[11:35] <Arwen> Eruantalon, gnash don't work for anything
[11:35] <Eruantalon> blahhh45: No it does not have all those additional packages'
[11:36] <frank23> is there a restricted driver manager in kubuntu? (like in ubuntu)
[11:36] <blahhh45> Eruantalon: So where can I go and download them on a cd and install later since I have no internet where im installing kubuntu
[11:37] <Eruantalon> blahhh45: I don't know actually... Have you looked at http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[11:38] <s17lans> ello
[11:38] <eagles0513875> whats a good website for beginners to bash scripting
[11:38] <JoeyAdams> Yes, frank23, it says it on the boot screen
[11:38] <s17lans> need some help with demux plugin
[11:38] <JoeyAdams> (I guess that means there is a restricted driver manager [I only saw that on the Live DVD boot screen))
[11:38] <Eruantalon> blahhh45: You could download the individal packages but that seems a pita
[11:38] <s17lans> plz
[11:39] <jarle> eagles0513875: http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq
[11:39] <eagles0513875> ty jarle
[11:39] <Eruantalon> eagles0513875: Ask in #bash or look at their topic
[11:39] <jarle> eagles0513875: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[11:39] <eagles0513875> ty jarle
[11:40] <LeeJunFan> blahhh45: there are dependancies with any just about any program you install, if you are on a slower connection I suggest you get the DVD.
[11:40] <LeeJunFan> crap.
[11:41] <Raven301> In Kubuntu 7.04 the Knetworkmanaget ... It says it's in manual network configuration  It use to give me the wireless networks that were available Now it doesn't Any Ideas on how to get it back?
[11:41] <Eruantalon> LeeJunFan: Does ubuntu have something like debian where you can download the whole repos on several cd
[11:41] <frank23> JoeyAdams: I'm not sure what you mean. I installed kubuntu feisty and I want to install the nvidia driver
[11:41] <Raven301> s/Knetworkmanaget/Knetworkmanager
[11:41] <LeeJunFan> Eruantalon: you mean like jigdo? I would imagein jigdo would work with ubuntu as well.
[11:42] <Eruantalon> no thats not what I mean. With ubuntu there is only one cd available
[11:42] <Eruantalon> the rest of the apps you have to download
[11:42] <LeeJunFan> !jigdo
[11:42] <ubotu> jigdo is the jigsaw downloader for building cd isos. for more information see http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
[11:42] <Eruantalon> What if you like blahh don't have an intenet connect but still want to install packages?
[11:43] <LeeJunFan> Eruantalon: it's either the one CD or the DVD.
[11:43] <Eruantalon> Shouldn't there be cds for that
[11:43] <Eruantalon> or Debian...
[11:43] <LeeJunFan> Eruantalon: it would be nice, but that's where the DVD comes in.
[11:43] <Eruantalon> How much software is on the dvd?
[11:44] <cpk1> Eruantalon: technically you can add packages to the cd/dvd
[11:44] <LeeJunFan> Eruantalon: I think it's basically the "most popular" stuff. It's plenty enough for most people.
[11:44] <cpk1> also I think you can treat cd's as repos
[11:45] <LeeJunFan> I keep a local mirror on my external HD with debmirror.
[11:45] <LeeJunFan> cpk1: yeah you can.
[11:46] <LeeJunFan> If ubuntu had CD's for the whole thing it'd probably be about 30 of them.
[11:46] <apus> so the reinstall of kubuntu just wiped a hard drive not even related to the ones I selected for the root and the swap
[11:46] <Eruantalon> LeeJunFan: Debian has cds for everything!
[11:47] <cpk1> Eruantalon: well technically you can have cds for everything with ubuntu
[11:47] <LeeJunFan> Eruantalon: Yeah, but by the time you download the iso it's outdated by updates. Jigdo is the better way to do it. Make up to date iso's yourself.
[11:48] <JoeyAdams> frank23>  Sorry, I'm a Fedora user and an Ubuntu newbie.
[11:48] <LeeJunFan> feisty's repos is over 14G just for i386. That's a lot of CD's.
[11:48] <tmske> I'm trying to install lirc, when I do lircd -n, I get the error: could not open /dev/lirc
[11:49] <ema> reboo
[11:49] <apus> whats the apt get for nvidia
[11:49] <ema> why
[11:49] <Eruantalon> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:49] <ema> what's the command for the graphic acceleration?
[11:50] <Arwen> apus, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:50] <Arwen> or apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[11:50] <Arwen> or apt-get install nvidia-glx-old
[11:50] <Eruantalon> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:51] <apus> it gets an error 404
[11:51] <Arwen> apus, uh.... take it up with the devs
[11:51] <ema> c'e qualche italiano?
[11:52] <SonicChao|away> ema: #ubuntu-it
[11:53] <apus> take it up with the devs? what kind of advice is that
[11:54] <Arwen> apus, well, I'm not getting 404s here so it must be your problem...
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> apus: try 'sudo apt-get update' then try again
[12:04] <nico_> you know what's bothering me about feisty, there were big articles about new features like the windows migration tool but i cant find them anywhere kubuntu feisty
[12:04] <eagles0513875> if im creating a bash script how am i supposed to save it
[12:04] <nico_> just save it as .sh
[12:05] <SonicChao|away> eagles0513875: .sh
[12:05] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, the file name can be anything, really. The .sh suffix is the de facto standard for shell scripts.
[12:06] <eagles0513875> ok Yorokobi
[12:06] <eagles0513875> ty
[12:06] <nico_> eh i told him that actually
[12:06] <Raven301> Can anyone help me with the knetworkmanager?
[12:07] <stepnjump> Anybody familiar with adept?
[12:09] <stepnjump> Anybody familiar with adept?
[12:11] <jarn> What program would I use to sync an external drive with a folder on my harddrive
[12:13] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?