[01:24] <pwnguin> is the acpi tracking stuff built into the feisty kernel?
[09:22] <hobojohn3> can i get some help with my wireless driver here?
[09:23] <Nailor_> What wireless are you using?
[09:24] <hobojohn3> intel pro 3945abg
[09:24] <Nailor> What's the problem? And which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:25] <hobojohn3> fiesty and my driver isnt working at all its a proprietary driver so i figured can i get one thats not?
[09:25] <hobojohn3> im unable to connect to a wireless network at all
[09:28] <hobojohn3> any ideas?
[09:30] <Nailor> Hm.
[09:30] <Nailor> on my feisty the same card works just fine
[09:30] <Nailor> Have you enabled it from System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers
[09:31] <hobojohn3> how?
[09:31] <Nailor> Well, open that software (the path above)
[09:32] <Nailor> There should be two checkboxes "Enabled" and "In use"
[09:32] <Nailor> Make sure Enabled is ticked
[09:32] <hobojohn3> yeah it is anything else?
[09:32] <Nailor> Is it enabled?
[09:33] <hobojohn3> yeah it is
[09:33] <hobojohn3> is there something like wicd for fiesty yet or not?
[09:33] <Nailor> wicd?
[09:33] <hobojohn3> it was an edgy thing that was nice
[09:33] <hobojohn3> do you use windows wireless?
[09:33] <Nailor> Sometimes
[09:33] <hobojohn3> if so its kind of like that setup you see a list then youclick the one you want
[09:34] <Nailor> If you mean some sort of applet managing the wireless connections, there's NetworkManager for that
[09:34] <hobojohn3> where can i get that?
[09:34] <Nailor> You should see it (on feisty) as a two computers in the systra
[09:34] <Nailor> y
[09:34] <Nailor> Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[09:34] <hobojohn3> i have 2 of those icons
[09:34] <hobojohn3> ubuntu
[09:34] <Nailor> The other one is NetworkManager
[09:34] <Nailor> Try left-clicking those
[09:35] <hobojohn3> am i still here?
[09:35] <Nailor> Clicking network manager should open a dialog, where you can select wired connection or wireless
[09:35] <Nailor> Yes
[09:35] <hobojohn3> k its working now thank you
[09:35] <Nailor> No problem =)
[09:36] <hobojohn3> it wasnt so i was trying to fix that thank you very much
[09:36] <Nailor> =)
[10:36] <iwkse> hi, anybody knows how to collapse/expand voices in boot menu? (not in bios)
[10:40] <pwnguin> voices
[10:40] <pwnguin> ?
[10:40] <pwnguin> oh, choices, probably
[10:40] <iwkse> eg. + HD Drives
[10:40] <iwkse>       - Hard Disk
[10:40] <iwkse>       - Mp3 Player
[10:40] <iwkse> yes, choices
[10:41] <pwnguin> have you set this up already?
[10:41] <iwkse> i havne't find the way
[10:41] <iwkse> i can in the bios using Enter
[10:41] <iwkse> it expand/collapse
[10:41] <pwnguin> im not sure grub supports cascading menus
[10:42] <iwkse> but while booting i don't know how cause enter just make to boot
[10:42] <iwkse> no..i'm not talking about grub
[10:42] <iwkse> firstly
[10:42] <iwkse> i can press f12 for boot menu
[10:43] <pwnguin> so is this ubuntu software, or part of your laptop?
[10:43] <iwkse> it's not ubuntu
[10:43] <iwkse> it's a kind of function that laptops has
[10:43] <pwnguin> sounds like bios to me
[10:43] <iwkse> yes, that's it
[10:44] <iwkse> is a part of bios i believe
[10:44] <pwnguin> in which case it would help if you mentioned the model of the laptop
[10:44] <iwkse> toshiba satellite L20-257
[10:45] <pwnguin> does left / right arrow keys do the job?
[10:45] <iwkse> no
[10:46] <iwkse> in the bios it works with Enter
[10:46] <iwkse> but using enter too while F12 it will boot
[10:46] <pwnguin> well, i can't really tell you much about software ive never used
[10:47] <pwnguin> my tecra m7 has a gui system for that
[10:47] <pwnguin> not very flexible or understandable
[10:47] <iwkse> how does it works?
[10:47] <pwnguin> i hold f12 and it pops up with a row of icons and grey bars beneath them
[10:47] <pwnguin> one of the bars is highlighted orange
[10:47] <pwnguin> left and right arrows move the choice, enter selects
[10:48] <iwkse> ah, so it works with left right
[10:48] <iwkse> can you tell me the bios?
[10:48] <iwkse> phoenix?
[10:48] <pwnguin> well, my version is 1.7
[10:48] <pwnguin> huh
[10:48] <pwnguin> i have some crazy insane toshiba bios
[10:48] <pwnguin> its ugly as all getoout
[10:48] <iwkse> ahah
[10:49] <iwkse> i have a Phoenix one
[10:49] <pwnguin> but most the stuff works and i get decent battery life
[10:49] <iwkse> v1.40
[10:49] <iwkse> i like battery too here
[10:50] <pwnguin> now that acpi is fixed and tablet rotate works
[10:50] <pwnguin> i should look into automating it
[10:50] <pwnguin> (its a tablet pc)
[10:51] <iwkse> i see
[10:51] <iwkse> i'll try to write at toshiba support
[10:51] <iwkse> maybe it can helps
[10:52] <pwnguin> supposedly they have a linux support team
[10:52] <iwkse> isn't related to any OS
[10:52] <iwkse> F12 is a bios functino
[10:53] <pwnguin> yea, you should probably just get toshiba to answer your question instead of #ubuntu-laptop ;)
[10:53] <iwkse> :)
[10:53] <pwnguin> have you gotten ubuntu to run on it then?
[10:53] <iwkse> wanted to ask here if anybody got the same stuff
[10:53] <iwkse> not really, i have debian
[10:54] <pwnguin> i think the laptop team is pretty much mjg and his billion laptops
[10:54] <iwkse> but doesn't exists a debian-laptop channel:)
[10:54] <iwkse> mjg?
[10:54] <pwnguin> a person in this channel
[10:56] <iwkse> ah
[11:08] <iwkse> http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/index.htm
[11:10] <pwnguin> it feels about as useful as a fan site
[11:11] <iwkse> have you clicked on upper button too before to say that?:)
[11:12] <pwnguin> i mean, it seems like its just aggregating what people outside toshiba have done with toshiba on linux
[11:13] <pwnguin> "a user has successfully developed an lcd brightness control"