[12:27] maybe that you built using dapper sources or something [12:29] right..my first one that I made a few weeks ago I made on dapper not realizing that it had changed...built it with fesity today, but there have been some weird bugs [12:29] you should have it in your mail box [12:30] that's just one of my ideas, the one I think is most likely to be usable [12:36] i liked thes [12:36] :) [12:37] okay recmndation [12:37] so...usable? any suggestions? [12:37] Powered by in the same font as mythbuntu [12:38] and then "Ubuntu & mythtv" [12:38] oops, I actually meant to change the font on that [12:38] as in just put an & between [12:38] inbetween the logos? [12:38] yup [12:38] in the same font [12:41] white "&" or blue? [12:42] blue I think [12:42] but i dont know for sure which will look better [12:43] I'll send you one of each to see which you like better [12:45] k [12:49] sent [12:51] ok white & [12:51] now the mythbuntu at the top, is it centered? [12:51] it looks a little off [12:51] and the powered by, i think move to the left [12:51] right above the ubuntu logo [12:52] I haven't centered or aligned anything yet really...new to gimp, not sure if there are any align functions yet [12:52] i'm not sure either if there are [12:53] so I'm going to have to align them manually, and didn't want to put the effort into it until I had the design finished...didn't feel like the extra work. I'm kinda lazy i suppose [12:56] but between all the items up there, thats a really slick set of pieces [12:56] how does it look once its converted to 16 color? [12:56] or whatever the limitation is for splashes [12:56] dont remember offhand [12:57] 256 [12:57] it doesn't look bad at all [12:57] wonderful [12:57] its too bad that they cant be in true color [12:57] I'll send it to you aligned and converted to 256 in a few minutes [12:57] indeed [12:57] k [12:57] maybe next release === frank23 [n=frank@CPE001839c1904e-CM00080d26a042.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:06] alrighty, check it out now. 256 colors, I think I got most of the stuff aligned...not sure, I don't have a great eye for that [01:10] its still a bit off center [01:10] use the ruler at the top of gimp [01:11] its roughly 125 on the left [01:11] and what looks like 150-175 on the right [01:11] see how the powered by looks right above the Ubuntu though yet too [01:11] superm1: great job on the mythtv wiki pages. They're amazing! [01:11] frank23, majoridiot has been keeping up with the feisty ones :) I did all the edgy and dapper ones though [01:12] so thank him next he comes in :) [01:12] superm1: I see [01:13] frank23, you like all the packaging changes with regard to mysql and the dialogs now for mythtv-setup? [01:13] I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend_Desktop_O on a new feisty install without problem. I haven't gotten lirc to work yet but lirc is not part of the mythtv pages as such [01:14] Whats happening with LIRC? [01:15] superm1: The last time I installed mythtv was with dapper and it took me a long time to get it working [01:16] I installed lirc using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty and the remote is working when I run irw [01:17] I copied http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey-g3.txt as ~/.mythtv/lircrc [01:18] But in mythtv nothing happens when I use the remote [01:18] I have 2 PVR-150 cards [01:19] hm [01:19] are your buttons titled the same? [01:19] in your lircd.conf [01:19] I'll check [01:20] superm1, "though yet too"? [01:20] rogue780|laptop, as in see how it looks if you move the "Powered By" right above the Ubuntu logo [01:22] superm1: hmmm. no I don't think they all have the same names [01:22] got it [01:23] sorry...centered over ubuntu logo, or left justified with it? [01:24] left justified i think [01:24] frank23, then there ya go :P [01:25] so I'm putting it right over the circle part of the ubuntu logo [01:25] yea that sounds right [01:25] superm1: where can I find a lircd.conf anb .lircrc for mythtv for a grey hauppauge remote (PVR-150) that will work I wonder [01:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=lircd.conf.hauppauge [01:26] http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey-g3.txt [01:27] those should work together [01:27] ok...again you have mail... [01:27] maybe I should fire up apache and just post it there [01:28] next time [01:29] rogue780|laptop, looks very good [01:30] sweet-er-roony [01:30] what is the status of mythbuntu btw? [01:30] rogue780|laptop, everything is ready but the installer [01:30] the website hosting isn't set up yet [01:31] ah [01:31] imbrandon has a server for us [01:31] we got permission to use ivtv drivers? [01:31] yes [01:31] but its kinda good (for me) because i have finals these next two weeks [01:31] so i should really put more time towards school then myth :) [01:31] superm1: are you sure? it's Ch+ in lircd.conf and Channel-UP in that lircrc [01:32] frank23, oh you appear to be right... [01:32] has anyone tried to make a graphical lirc configuration gui yet? [01:32] i'm surprised no one has caught that yet [01:32] rogue780|laptop, no not yet [01:33] rogue780|laptop, that was going to be my pet project this summer until mythbuntu livedisk and all went full swing [01:33] so its on the back burner now [01:33] I had that problem, and it threw me off for a little bet === twodeko [n=twodeko@havarti.student.iastate.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:33] howdy all [01:34] what do I need to know to make gui programs for gnome/X? any books/tutorials that you would recommend? I'm coming from dos/windows programming so it's all a little freaky seeming [01:34] when is the projected launch date of mythbuntu? with gutsy? [01:34] hey twodeko :) [01:35] whaddup superm1 [01:35] rogue780|laptop, i showed twodeko your splash [01:35] i liked it :p [01:35] rogue780|laptop, all depends on how much work this installer turns out to be [01:35] yey [01:35] because jetsradiem ran into lots of issues [01:36] is it a special installer? or "just" modifying the ubuntu installer? === twodeko forgot how nice IRSSI was [01:37] its a modification to ubiquity [01:37] as of right now the installer on the disk is a vanilla ubiquity [01:38] because the mods to ubiquity dont run at all [01:38] fun [01:38] what installer does mepis use? [01:39] havent ran mepis [01:39] so couldnt tell ya [01:40] rogue780|laptop, well most of the stuff that we will be doing is python [01:41] i'm not very versed in it myself [01:41] I have a python book somewhere...is it easy to make gui programs with it? [01:41] I don't know much about it [01:42] haven't done any as of yet - so couldnt tell ya [01:43] rogue780|laptop, sorry to cut off short but i have to work on a project with my team mate here [01:43] i'll catch up with you more later [01:43] awesome job on the splash [01:44] adios, and thanks [01:44] anything I can do to help, I want to try === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:38] majoridiot, will a SD program recorded over firewire take SD space or HD space? [02:38] SD [02:39] sweet [02:39] smaller than a pvr150 cap @720x480, typically. === majoridiot is doing a system build === majoridiot is installing windows vista [02:39] good, i dont know why i was thinking it would be HD size === majoridiot feels soooooooo dirty. [02:40] ugh vista [02:40] yeah... but it's what they wanted. [02:40] i had major problems with vista [02:40] 64 bit? [02:40] 32 [02:40] at my insistence [02:40] why? [02:40] install vista [02:40] :shrugs: hope its better than my experience [02:41] i had 64 bit installed, business edition (Got it free through my school) [02:41] dunno... the guy is running windows 98 now. i thought he was going XP, but he got scared of the MS "threats" of discontinuing support [02:41] dont know how it happened, but after a few days, nothing could access the internet [02:42] well, except for 64 bit internet explorer [02:42] he's going from a PIII to a core 2 duo... LOL [02:42] nice upgrade [02:42] i had nothing but grief with XP64 [02:42] you should pull a fast one on him and install feisty [02:42] uhh, yea......this is the new vista [02:43] no really, microsoft decided to change a few graphics [02:43] he's planning to install feisty in a few months, or wait for gutsy. but he does want to try ubuntu. [02:43] oh good [02:43] (i'm including a feisty liveCD when i deliver it ;) ) [02:46] majoridiot, you got mail [02:47] gotta munch... biab [02:48] gtg === rogue780|laptop [n=rogue780@c-68-49-53-29.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:20] majoridiot, did you get that email? [03:20] yes [03:20] eating. will look soon. [03:25] rogue780|laptop: looks very nice :) [03:25] sweet. that's 3 for 3 then [03:26] :-D [03:26] :D [03:57] Hello [03:58] Who can help me to purchase correct capture card? [03:58] correct for what application? [03:59] I want to record my Xbox 360. I uses component cables. [03:59] *it === majoridiot recalls that discussion [04:00] I want to be able to play my Xbox 360 on the TV and have it be recorded on the computer for later video editing. [04:02] Your thoughts? [04:04] This is what the connector on my xbox 360 looks like. http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31Tr5K6JL2L._SS500_.jpg [04:04] like i said, your likely best non-crazy-expensive option is to get a splitter that will go to HD and svideo and the record the svideo feed with a pvr150 [04:08] How much does that card go for? [04:09] $68 on NewEgg [04:09] you can find it for $60-90 [04:11] Why do you recommend that card? [04:11] afforadable, kernel support (in feisty), good quality [04:12] i have two and i think they are of very good quality/value [04:16] I see that work out of the box better than the PCHDTV cards, why is that? I thought those cards are designed for linux. [04:17] the PCHD problem is very minor... an oversight, really. add a module load is all. it [04:18] PVR 150 remote works in Linux ? === napa [n=napa@216.146.103.99] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:18] yes... blaster too. lirc compatible. [04:21] So hands down you feel that card is the best bang for your buck? [04:21] i think so, yes. [04:22] What is the difference between the other PVR models [04:23] # of tuner, mostly. [04:25] NewEgg reviews seem to like the PVR 500 and PVR 150 MCE [04:26] 500s were kinda hard to find... dunno about now. [04:27] 150/150MCE are essentially the same, except 150 has on-card ir support and 150MCE has usb-based ir [04:29] 500 is more if you want to do two shows at once [04:30] two tuners in one [04:30] Well I have Comcast and I have dual tuner personal video recorder for my cable TV set. [04:30] Just need something for the computer so I can record Halo [04:30] mahahhaa [04:31] redvsblue [04:31] I am going to get this one since majoridiot recommend it. Is this the right one? http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16815116620 [04:32] yes [04:32] yep [04:34] if you were close by id sell you mine [04:36] I am in Chicago [04:36] oregom [04:36] n [04:36] geez, i cant even spell my own state === majoridiot is pretty sure that there is shipping between OR and IL [04:37] are you sure? [04:37] I have a 256gb HDD, I am thinking I might need a new and better one. 500gb or bigger? === majoridiot heard rumors [04:38] how much are you planning on recording? === tgm4883_ can't sell it to superMike as tgm4883 is still bitter about the 1992 NBA Finals [04:39] dam michael jordan [04:39] Well I built this Intel Core 2 Duo e6400 2gb ram, Nvidia 7600GT, Two 20.1 in 1680x1050 monitors. [04:39] I would just hate to run out of room. [04:39] majoridiot, whats he going to get with svideo? about 2.2 Gb per hour? [04:40] maybe a little more [04:40] thaz about right [04:41] you have a 256Gb drive? [04:41] not like 250? [04:41] or 300? [04:41] They actually sell a 256Gb drive? [04:41] I currently have a 250gb [04:41] ah [04:42] $65 bucks for Sata 2 250gb HDD on NewEgg [04:42] 500gb goes for $130 [04:42] seems about right [04:42] do you have a seperate drive for video work? [04:43] I am thinking. Cause I know video chews up disk space. [04:43] Right now, 208gb free. [04:43] it does, and you need to have at least a seperate partition for video [04:44] maybe I should get two of those drives for a solid 1.25TB [04:44] any old drives laying around, say around 20 Gb? [04:45] you could use something like that for your system drive [04:45] I think I might have a 120gb EIDE [04:45] err root partition [04:45] thats a little larger than you need [04:45] sounds weird, but check out a local good will [04:46] sometimes they have electronics for pretty cheap (older stuff anyway) [04:46] got a steal on my tivo [04:46] that is, before i built the mythtv [04:47] MythTV is like TIVO for PC? [04:47] um yea i guess you could say that [04:47] although it is so much more than just tivo [04:48] what are you planning on doing with your captured xbox video? [04:48] Make halo high light reels [04:49] and the capture homebrew content [04:49] ah [04:50] well with a 250Gb Hard drive (probably about 237Gb actually), say about 20Gb for system programs and such leaves you around 217 to work with video [04:50] means you can capture around 72 hours of content [04:50] but that would leave you no space to work [04:51] Yea, I better grab one to be safe. [04:51] Any of you guys have a HD player? [04:51] Wouldn't hurt to grab one [04:54] what resolution are you capturing in? [04:55] I think PVR150MCE only allows me to capture video up to 720x480 [04:55] no i dont have one, if i do get one, it will be multiformat [04:55] hmm [04:55] Nah, you dont need to. HD DVD has won [04:57] oh yea? [04:57] http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/04/22/0035238.shtml [04:58] Yea. Wal mart has purchased 2 million HD DVD players. Anticipated price is $300, and it is expected to have price down to $150 by Christmas. [04:59] well i hope so, perhaps just because i hate sony and there crap, or maybe because HD DVD is a superior format. But there is a pretty big install base of bluray players [04:59] How can Blu-Ray compete with that>? [04:59] Actually Blu ray is technically better. [05:00] based on? [05:00] Physical specs [05:00] are you basing it on size only? [05:00] Here this is funny. "So, you're saying that the company that created Betamax, ATRAC encoding, the S-Link protocol, Minidisc players, Super-AudioCDs, Memory Sticks and Universal Media Discs might actually lose a format war? [05:00] Preposterous!" [05:00] lol [05:01] I am telling ya, Wal Mart is a Giant. If they support HD DVD it is a wrap! [05:01] they can support HD DVD all they want, but its the studios that will push the format [05:02] and unfortunatly bluray has more studios backing it [05:02] Studio dont care. [05:02] now i haven't looked at the companies in a while, they may be crap [05:02] if they didn't care, they wouldn't pick a side [05:03] home users decide [05:03] thats the problem [05:03] home users decide [05:03] Is Mrs Jones going to buy qa $1k Blu-Ray player or a $300 HD DVD [05:04] no its more like Mr jones wants to get HD content and is sold on a HD player when he walks into best buy [05:04] lol [05:04] yea right [05:04] I work in sales [05:04] now mr jones loves (insert movie here), but that movie is only availible on (insert format here) [05:04] guess what he buys [05:04] a dvd? [05:04] vhs tape [05:05] Trust me. Mr Jones don't care. Mr Jones says "Does this play the new HD? And does my old DVD still work? Okay it is 5x cheaper than other!" [05:05] err betamax [05:06] Trust me. I like BD because it is technically superior but.... Wal Mart has the golden touch that will swing this one. [05:06] personally i think neither "next gen" format will win (dont get me started on that) [05:06] i disagree on the technically superior, it may hold more data, but data isn't everything [05:07] Why wont it will ? Cause studios will release movies on both formats. You will see HyBrid players that can play both types of disc. [05:07] there are hybrid players and hybrid disks [05:08] the problem with bluray (and it is probably the kiss of death) is they have already stated that you can't put objectionable stuff on it (ie porn) [05:09] wtf? [05:09] who says? [05:09] let me see if i can find the statement [05:09] Did you know the porn industry jumped on VHS back cause it was cheaper. You will see same with HD DVD [05:09] that's just.... asinine. [05:09] Do your research [05:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD [05:10] im saying that is the reason HD DVD could win [05:10] probably will [05:10] but neithe of the formats are really next gen [05:11] not that companies dont through around the phrase "next gen" as much as they can [05:11] scroll down to the bottom to see comparison charts. [05:12] BD beats HD across the boards not only is disk capacity. [05:12] that's just beyond stupid. === majoridiot officially boycots all HD formats [05:12] Only thing the HD DVD has it is cheaper and no java crap [05:12] Money talks baby [05:13] LOL. I am going to buy HD just cause of the movie 300! Seriously. As soon as you can purchase that for HD I am buying the player and movie. [05:13] and porn [05:14] Look right now if you have a x360 you can get a player for $187 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103051 [05:15] id say so, you can get a bluray player for 500, but whats the point [05:17] Wal Mart [05:17] wal mart is your point? [05:19] Wal mart Xmas '07 HD DVD stand alone units ~149 would be the HD point, yes! === majoridiot would rather chew off his own feet than shop at walmart [05:20] Anyone have a wireless card? [05:20] Now I got my Video card on order, last thing I needed for my linux box is WIFI card that works out of box too. [05:20] wmp54g [05:21] i would have to know your setup to recommend a card [05:22] I have cable internet for my home. Cable Modem to NetGear 4 port Wifi router. [05:22] maybe a 30 ft radius [05:23] is your computer next to your 360? [05:24] yes. about 15 ft away. [05:24] oh [05:24] just trying to picture this [05:24] your 360 connects wirelessly? [05:24] you want me to draw a picture? [05:24] lol no [05:24] im imaginative [05:25] Okay pretty much office and living room connect/ no doors [05:25] are you going to be doing any file transfers between other PC's wirelessly? [05:25] meaning the video your capturing [05:25] or is it mainly for internet [05:25] 46in LCD with x360 in the living room. 15 feet away is office with super computer. They are hard wired networked [05:26] i dont get it, if there hardwired, why do you need a wireless card? [05:26] Wifi card is not for me. [05:26] oh [05:26] that makes much more sense [05:26] for a laptop? [05:27] It is for an old computer that i am fixing for a lady. i was going to put Ubunut on it . She only connects wireless, so I need and out of the box compatible drive. Desktop. P3 450myhz. [05:27] ah [05:28] im not keen on usb wireless cards as they have all been a crapshoot for me [05:29] For a couple bucks she can still use your crappy computer and linux can extend its life expectancy by breathing a little life back into it versus power monger winblows [05:29] so unless the wmp54g is pcmcia i would go with that [05:29] agreed [05:29] installing dapper? [05:30] Fiesty? [05:30] ok, no problems with tat [05:30] that [05:30] feisty support now outlasts dapper right? [05:30] Either that or if that runs to slow the Fluxbuntu? [05:32] Ha, I found a Linksys PCI WMP11 card, I am not sure if that is supported [05:33] :shrugs: i use a wrt54g === SuperMike is now known as SuperMike|AFk === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-188-88.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_ [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:33] How do you increase the text size, (not in the appearance setup) [07:33] text size of the whole system you mean? [07:33] like the dpi [07:34] i guess [07:34] nvidia card? [07:34] the text size is way small [07:34] yea [07:34] using proprietary nvidia driver? [07:34] yes, not legacy [07:34] wait [07:35] proprietary is from the repo right, not from nvidia site [07:35] well it would be both [07:35] but im using from the repo [07:35] okay [07:35] there is a "DPI" setting to add to xorg.conf [07:35] i dont have my xorg.conf handy [07:35] let me see if i can find it [07:38] http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-d.html [07:38] Option "DPI" "string" [07:39] so you want: [07:39] Option "DPI" 100x100" [07:40] lol [07:40] im looking at all that and like, "damn, thats complicated" [07:40] your like 100x100 [07:40] that easy [07:40] so is that an example? [07:40] or should i be puting that in [07:42] 100x100 is what i use [07:42] and what you should use for mythboxen [07:43] ok [07:43] cause its freaking small on my lcd [07:43] hard to reach from the couch [07:44] now its still 100x100 even for widescreen? [07:44] yea [07:44] ok [07:44] afaik :) [07:44] its going do [07:45] and that goes under device [07:45] or screen [07:45] device is fine [07:53] sweet [07:53] much better [07:53] thanks [07:54] one more question if you have a moment [07:54] about scheduling [07:54] sure [07:56] I've gotten a few shows now on my daily schedule, and most are set to record on "record on any day on this channel" [07:56] some record daily, some any time any channel [07:56]