[12:24] <Dimicus> Hi guys. anyone can spare a min ?
[12:24] <maccam94> Dimicus: what's up?
[12:24] <Dimicus> HI.. i have a prob with my soundcard. unusal as i understand :P
[12:24] <Dimicus> i cant use 2 sounddevice at same time
[12:25] <Dimicus> when im on teamspeak i cant play mp3 and viceversa
[12:25] <Dimicus> and as i understand i need full duplex soundcard
[12:25] <Dimicus> and my fiend has the same card and it work for him so i suppose it full duplex
[12:25] <Dimicus> i use fiesty fawn edubuntu
[12:26] <Dimicus> and my fiend use a older release
[12:26] <Dimicus> its a alc880
[12:26] <stgraber> If you want to make two softwares using OSS (not alsa) you'll need a soundcard with hardware-mixing
[12:26] <stgraber> otherwise alsa mixing will do it for most of the other softwares
[12:27] <maccam94> sounds like you are having an issue with one or both of the apps not using esd (the esound daemon). check system -> preferences -> sound and make sure you're using esd and not alsa or oss. if esd is set, check out #ubuntu, they should be able to help with basic ubuntu issues like that ;-)
[12:27] <stgraber> Dimicus: cat /proc/asound/pcm
[12:28] <Laser_away> gonzaloaf_work: we moved the educational apps to the Server Add-on CD for 7.04
[12:28] <Laser_away> gonzaloaf_work: it alows us to put more of them on and gives room for more server/low-level stuff on the 1st CD
[12:28] <stgraber> if you have : playback 2 or more it should works fine with TS and any other OSS software
[12:29] <stgraber> if you have : playback 1, then you'll only be able to use one software using OSS at a time
[12:29] <stgraber> (or will have to use artsd, esd, pulseaudio, or any other sound daemon)
[12:29] <stgraber> (but TS doesn't work with most of them)
[12:29] <Dimicus> thanx will check. tried #ubuntu but the problem is that that channel is so crowded noways so impposible to get help
[12:30] <maccam94> Dimicus: ah, makes sense
[12:30] <stgraber> the full-duplex itself is being able to record+play sound at the same time, not being able to have multiple access to the sound card
[12:31] <maccam94> stgraber: well that's kind of teamspeak/mp3 playback
[12:31] <maccam94> although teamspeak is recording and playback
[12:31] <stgraber> teamspeak+mp3+Quake3 works just fine with my Audigy 2 ZS :)
[12:31] <stgraber> but it has a 8 channels hardware-mixing
[12:32] <stgraber> otherwise you'll have sound problem for sure as soon as those softwares don't use alsa
[12:34] <gonzaloaf_work> does anybody know if my clients can play sounds?
[12:35] <maccam94> i think that may be new in feisty, or else it's still in the works. i remember seeing it on the list of things to do on the ubuntu development site....
[12:35] <Dimicus> Ok i have made sure that i use esd on everything. teamspeak still not working. hoever i checked ct /proc/asound/pcm and it says i have playback 1
[12:37] <Dimicus> so thats mean i needa new soundcard ?
[12:38] <stgraber> there are some workarounds using artsd, but you may feel a delay while speaking on TS
[12:38] <Dimicus> well i have another soundcard i can install so no worry tehre
[12:38] <stgraber> check out the wiki, I'm pretty sure to have seen that in it
[12:39] <maccam94> gonzaloaf_work: this might answer your question: Edubuntu LTSP Thin Client... The thin client boot-speed is improved in the new release, and LTSP sound support now enables volume control while providing sound to many more applications.
[12:40] <Dimicus> thanx for the answer guys realy appreciate it. hope you can help me with other things later on :) gonna fix lstp for a little home project ;)
[12:44] <lns> Can anyone vouch for the stability/usability of Sabayon?
[12:45] <lns> I.E., is it something that would be better off in the testing lab, or in a production environment?
[12:45] <Burgwork> yes and mostly
[12:45] <Burgwork> I know of people that use it in production
[12:45] <lns> Burgwork, it looks really really nice... it seems to be the answer to what my customer is asking for right now with Ubuntu/LTSP/Edubuntu for creating user profiles
[12:46] <lns> Thank you..I wanted to know from experienced users if it would be good to recommend using this, as long as it's not buggy
[12:46] <lns> so many little apps are, it's hard to be sure sometimes when there's a lot riding on it
[12:46] <Burgwork> it does require a little bit of setup
[12:47] <lns> Burgwork, does that mean a default profile? do you have any URLs i can study?
[12:47] <Burgwork> http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/ldap.html
[12:47] <Burgwork> for ldap
[12:47] <lns> ty!
[12:48] <lns> man, i really need to get up to speed on ldap
[12:48] <lns> that seems like the true cornerstone of SO many awesome network setups and configurations
[12:56] <gonzaloaf_work> I dont know what happened, I put the correct user and password but my clients doesnt login, why?
[01:02] <lns> gonzaloaf_work, can you elaborate at all on "clients doesnt login'?
[01:03] <gonzaloaf_work> lns, I enter the user then the password... it tries to log but it returns to the login window
[01:04] <lns> gonzaloaf_work, have you examined the logs at all?
[01:05] <cliebow>   gonzaloaf_work have  you tried ltsp-update-sshkeys?
[01:07] <gonzaloaf_work> lns, yep
[01:07] <gonzaloaf_work> cliebow, noup
[01:07] <gonzaloaf_work> cliebow, why should I do that?
[01:24] <cliebow> that helps sometimes..
[01:25] <cliebow> cause ldm is just a front  for ssh
[01:25] <cliebow> so the keys could  be mixed
[04:23] <Laser_away> dabaR: they are both approved
[04:24] <LaserJock> and I think they'll be done primarily by the GSoC student
[06:18] <dabaR> I am trying to figure out whether the GSoC program is aiming to produce open-source projects, or to develop free software:)
[06:25] <LaserJock> dabaR: how do you mean?
[06:26] <LaserJock> dabaR: they are paying for students to work on a project for a summer
[06:28] <dabaR> See, if I was the student, part of my work would be on motivating and building a community of people to work on my project with me.
[06:29] <dabaR> Making people interested in my project, and wanting to contribute.
[06:29] <dabaR> Maybe that is cause I am into project management more than coding.
[06:30] <dabaR> I feel like open source is the process, free software is the product...
[06:30] <dabaR> I mean, that is how they talk about them in theory, in one reading.
[06:31] <dabaR> Dunno. I am gonna get involved in the PyStart project(if plausible), so I can benefit from my involvement. I am hoping to learn python, pygtk, get involved with *buntu, learn about conducting open source...
[06:32] <LaserJock> well
[06:32] <dabaR> And I think others may have interest in doing so. And any help to my GSoC project means I am more likely to get the money at the end.
[06:32] <LaserJock> GSoC is about starting a project
[06:32] <LaserJock> so they pay somebody to do some code
[06:32] <LaserJock> the hope would be that a community would form around it
[06:33] <ajmitch> GSoC also requires that it be your own work that you submit
[06:33] <LaserJock> but since there's payment for service involved it's not easy to allow a bunch of people to contribute while one person is getting paid
[06:34] <dabaR> ajmitch: so, no community work allowed?
[06:34] <LaserJock> I don't know that it's not allowed exactly
[06:34] <ajmitch> it would make community work difficult
[06:34] <dabaR> I guess I should have read about how GSoC works to learn the answers to my questions. THat is what I will do next. I got my clue:)
[06:34] <LaserJock> but I think it needs to be clear that the student did the work
[06:35] <LaserJock> but I think the community is welcome to give tips, discuss the project, etc.
[06:35] <dabaR> And not contribute code. Weird. Google does not get open source in the end! ;)
[06:36] <dabaR> Just kidding, to make that clear...
[06:36] <LaserJock> the students are required to provide the source in the end
[06:37] <dabaR> I meant get open source as in understand it.
[06:37] <bimberi> i wonder who owns the copyright?
[06:37] <LaserJock> I think the student
[06:38] <bimberi> good
[06:38] <dabaR> I will research, and come back with some conclusions.
[06:41] <dabaR> Each student (or her/his mentoring organization) must license all student GSoC code under a license palatable to the mentoring organization. Some organizations will require students to assign copyright to them, but many will allow them to retain copyright. If Google is a student's sponsoring organization, then the student keeps copyright to her/his code.
[06:42] <dabaR> PyStart will use GPL v2.
[06:42] <dabaR> I am pretty sure that it does not make sense that all code has to be produced by the student
[06:44] <dabaR> Thanks a lot.
[06:44] <bimberi> I'd say if a student can have others do the work for them they deserve a reward for their ... entrepreneurship :)
[06:45] <LaserJock> well, I'd say it would be against the spirit of GSoC to have other people do the work
[06:45] <dabaR> bimberi: same thoughts here.
[06:45] <dabaR> Noone is a fool...
[06:46] <dabaR> Noone will work if the guy that is getting paid is not.
[06:46] <bimberi> LaserJock: absolutely
[06:46] <LaserJock> dabaR: no, but if somebody offered to split the money if the other person did the work ...
[06:47] <dabaR> Anyhow, I have high hopes for my involvement the PyStart project.
[06:47] <LaserJock> sure
[06:47] <LaserJock> it just might take until the summer is over before the communit an really dig in
[06:47] <dabaR> LaserJock: I can see where you are going with it.
[06:48] <dabaR> With your argument.
[06:48] <dabaR> LaserJock: And that is true too.
[06:48] <LaserJock> well, the point is that student is being paid to learn and provide something for the community
[06:48] <LaserJock> having lots of people doing the work for them kinda defeats the point
[06:49] <LaserJock> then it just becomes a "who get's the money" thing
[06:50] <dabaR> I am not suggesting I will do work for them. With them.
[06:50] <dabaR> Cause, I can maybe write the unit tests while he is doing the code.
[06:51] <dabaR> And proofread the docs...
[06:51] <dabaR> Stuff like that. Get some experience with a GSoC project. Maybe do one myself next year.
[06:52] <dabaR> And both of those projects were suggested by the same guy, encompass.
[06:52] <dabaR> Both were his ideas, afaik.
[09:13] <ajmitch> hi highvoltage :)
[09:13] <highvoltage> hi ajmitch :)
[09:13] <highvoltage> ajmitch: that was supposed to be a "/join #edubuntu" ;)
[09:13] <ajmitch> I know ;)
[09:57] <cbx33> bbl guys
[09:57] <cbx33> ;)
[10:10] <cbx33> guys
[10:10] <cbx33> I need an A3 printer for LTSP environment
[10:10] <cbx33> can anyone recommend anything?
[10:11] <dabaR> cbx33: You are the mentor for PyStart, right? Are you also the mentor for the other project?
[10:12] <cbx33> dabaR: just pystart
[10:12] <cbx33> which other one were you talking about?
[10:12] <dabaR> Cool. There was an idea by encompass that was? accepted for a grading program.
[10:13] <cbx33> yes
[10:13] <dabaR> You are not the mentor for that one, though?
[10:13] <cbx33> no
[10:14] <dabaR> K. Well, I am Dan, and I am interested in participating in the PyStart project, by helping with quality assurance, and perhaps contributing some code. Is that acceptable under the GSoC program?
[10:14] <cbx33> tbph I'm not sure, though......
[10:14] <cbx33> on the coding part
[10:15] <cbx33> once GSoC is over......we'd love to have help on it
[10:15] <ajmitch> hey cbx33 :)
[10:16] <dabaR> I read the faq and terms on the GSoC page, and it seems that is perfectly fine. No need to answer now, if you are not sure, just thought I would let you know.
[10:16] <cbx33> dabaR: I will talk to the GSoC admins now
[10:17] <dabaR> Tue Apr 24 03:20:24 CDT 2007
[10:17] <cbx33> not here it's not
[10:17] <cbx33> ajmitch: Hey dude
[10:17] <cbx33> howz it going?
[10:17] <dabaR> Just so you know why if I do not reply right away.
[10:24] <dabaR> cbx33: Have you noticed this post? http://groups.drupal.org/node/3621 It could be a useful read for encompass. It is linked on the GSoC blog, as an example of what could be done by May 28. I am aware that encompass is planning/doing most of it.
[10:25] <dabaR> cbx33: also, I am curious about the post by the person that replied to encompass' post to the -devel list, about using gettext to allow for I18N, and L10N. Is gettext something that is commonly used within Edubuntu?
[10:30] <cbx33> hmmm
[10:30] <cbx33> well tbph
[10:30] <cbx33> there havn't been many educational apps developed by the edubutnu community
[10:31] <dabaR> but there are members that are familiar with some of the code. I bet someone knows the answer. I can find out, thanks.
[10:31] <dabaR> I can just read the source, even ;)
[10:31] <cbx33> translation should be an issue at all
[10:31] <cbx33> get text isn't hard from what I've heard ;)
[10:31] <cbx33> but tbh I've never used it
[10:32] <dabaR> K. Good night. I will leave this open, so let me know when you find out what kind of help is acceptable.
[10:32] <cbx33> dabaR: well
[10:32] <cbx33> I've just finished speaking to the admin
[10:32] <cbx33> if you have a few minutes?
[10:32] <dabaR> Yup
[10:32] <cbx33> right
[10:32] <cbx33> so....
[10:32] <cbx33> I will have to talk to encompass about this, but
[10:33] <cbx33> if we are able to create pystart as a seperate entity,
[10:33] <cbx33> then it is possible for him to write the bits that are covered by GSoC
[10:33] <cbx33> and you to write....extensions to that
[10:33] <cbx33> but
[10:34] <cbx33> we will also require testing
[10:34] <cbx33> beta testing and feedback will be very important
[10:34] <cbx33> and it's probaable that translation won't feature within Jasons spec
[10:34] <cbx33> so...it could be an area that needs help
[10:34] <cbx33> I will chat to Jason when I get a sec
[10:35] <cbx33> we are supposed to be having our weekly meeting soon
[10:35] <cbx33> ;)
[10:35] <dabaR> I don't get something here. I find it strange that an open source project would not be open to everyone to develop. But, rules are rules. We will see as it goes along what is acceptable. And I can still read all the code, and that.
[10:35] <cbx33> no no
[10:35] <cbx33> it's not like that at all
[10:35] <cbx33> Google have to see what the students have done
[10:35] <cbx33> it has to be clearly defined
[10:36] <cbx33> so...
[10:36] <cbx33> like...X wrote a divX plugin for mplayer etc
[10:36] <cbx33> it can't be...here are some diffs
[10:36] <ajmitch> nor is the mentor going to be coding half of it ;)
[10:36] <cbx33> indeed
[10:36] <dabaR> Right. What I am envisioning is X led the development of a divX plugin for mplayer
[10:37] <cbx33> no
[10:37] <cbx33> it's Google Summer of Code.....the student does all the coding
[10:37] <dabaR> A-ha.
[10:37] <dabaR> OK. Well, nice to meet you ^_^
[10:37] <cbx33> mentors are there for direction quality control and assistance if the student gets stuck
[10:37] <cbx33> but
[10:37] <ajmitch> & helping them integrate into the community
[10:37] <cbx33> indeed
[10:37] <cbx33> thanks ajmitch
[10:38] <cbx33> but there is no reason why you can't help out on it, if you wish to
[10:38] <cbx33> it just may not be hard and fast coding
[10:38] <dabaR> Right. I understand.
[10:38] <cbx33> not till the GSoC portion is over any who
[10:38] <cbx33> make sense?
[10:38] <dabaR> Completely.
[10:38] <cbx33> good
[10:38] <ajmitch> once that part is over, it's wide open for everyone
[10:38] <cbx33> ;)
[10:38] <cbx33> I'm hoping once it's open more people will jump in
[10:38] <ajmitch> reminds me that I should get back to people on the patches for authtool, if I see them on irc
[10:39] <dabaR> What about a suite of unit tests for the code? Sorry to keep you.
[10:39] <cbx33> well
[10:39] <cbx33> infact
[10:39] <cbx33> writing some of the content for the release would be great
[10:39] <cbx33> I don't see that as infringing at all
[10:39] <cbx33> there will be some lessons needed
[10:39] <cbx33> etc ;)
[10:39] <cbx33> so that pystart has some files to use to show
[10:42] <cbx33> once the framework is in place, that'll be something that can start
[10:42] <cbx33> dabaR: can you drop me a mail....
[10:42] <cbx33> so i can mail you when things are at that stage
[10:42] <dabaR> What framework?
[10:43] <cbx33> wel...
[10:43] <cbx33> the lesson files will be in some kind of xml format
[10:43] <cbx33> but Jason is still designing that
[10:44] <dabaR> is googlemail(in your contact page on the blog site) a spam trap for gmail?
[10:45] <dabaR> Do I translate googlemail to gmail in other words.
[10:50] <dabaR> I have been talking with encompass through gmail. I instructed him on how to set up a dynamic DNS host name for his computer. I am not sure I will be interested in creating the lessons, but you can email me. I am definitely interested in what contributions are welcomed. I am a CS student, though, so there is a limited number of things I am interested in within the project.
[10:50] <dabaR> cbx33:
[12:33] <cbx33> ping ogra
[12:33] <cbx33> one last quick question
[12:33] <cbx33> for the book
[12:33] <cbx33> the bootfile name
[12:33] <cbx33> ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
[12:34] <ogra> you are missing a slash
[12:34] <ogra> filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"
[12:34] <ogra> err
[12:34] <ogra> filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
[12:40] <cbx33> yeh
[12:40] <cbx33> but in the chapter it was written as
[12:41] <cbx33>  ltsp/pxelinux.0
[12:41] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:41] <cbx33> for a windows machine that works
[12:41] <cbx33> i mean without the slahs
[12:41] <cbx33> but i need the i386
[12:41] <cbx33> ;)
[02:19] <Toyito> Hi there
[02:20] <Toyito> this is my first time here anibody there?????
[02:21] <ogra> only 39 people :)
[02:22] <Toyito> oopss
[02:22] <Toyito> ha ha ha
[02:22] <Toyito> hey can u help me pls...
[02:22] <Toyito> i have a little problem whit Edubuntu Feisty...
[02:22] <ogra> shoot
[02:23] <Toyito> ok i have a fresh install...alll works fine but i dont have sound on Flash in the thin clients....(H)
[02:24] <Toyito> i have system sound but not in flash.....
[02:29] <Toyito> ??????
[02:29] <ogra> hmm
[02:37] <ogra> flash should just use alsa ...
[02:40] <Toyito> yes....in Feisty my thin clients are using Alsa
[02:41] <ogra> yup, i know i implemented it :)
[02:41] <ogra> i wonder why flash doesnt do that
[02:49] <ogra> looks like a bug in flash to me ...
[02:49] <ogra> it should pick that up
[02:52] <Toyito> yup and i am in a big problem....my boos want to make a presentation of the new lab...:-S
[02:52] <Toyito> any tip?
[02:53] <Toyito> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420299&highlight=Feisty+flash
[02:53] <Toyito> other like me...
[02:54] <Toyito> hey Ogra what do you know a way to fix flash sound in Edgy?
[02:54] <ogra> well, thats running an 32bit firefox an amd64 ... completely different prob
[02:54] <ogra> flash sound in edgy worked fine afaik
[02:55] <ogra> at least i never had problems here
[02:55] <ogra> and there are no bugs about it
[02:55] <Toyito> i think this is my problem....i have an AMD 64bits machine as server....im installing now on a P IV....
[02:55] <ogra> oh
[02:55] <Toyito> he...a little mistake......
[02:55] <ogra> how did you get flash on there at all ?
[02:56] <Toyito> just installing from Synaptic
[02:56] <Toyito> im using i386 arch...hey but in the AMD flash sound is ok on the server
[02:57] <ogra> ah, ok
[02:57] <Toyito> just tcs have problems
[02:57] <ogra> thats not related to the amd64 then
[02:57] <ogra> if you run the i386 distro
[02:57] <Toyito> ok
[02:58] <Toyito> im running the i386 distro on an AMD 64 machine, do u think this is a problem?
[02:58] <ogra> no
[02:59] <Toyito> so?
[02:59] <ogra> that actually the best you can do unless you have more than 4G of RAM in the amd65
[02:59] <ogra> *64
[02:59] <Toyito> ok...i only have 2Gb.
[03:01] <ogra> well, its definately a bug in flash, i fear there is not much i can do about it right away ...
[03:01] <ogra> i'll look into it if i can find a workaround or so ...
[03:03] <ogra> at least since you say all other sounds work as expected ...
[03:09] <Toyito> ok thanks a lot
[03:09] <Toyito> ill be waiting for any help
[03:12] <bddebian> Heya
[03:12] <Toyito> hey
[03:12] <bddebian> Hello Toyito
[03:13] <Toyito> Hello
[03:53] <Toyito> any help on Feisty flash soun on thin clients???
[04:10] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:10] <Toyito> morning
[04:11] <Toyito> did you get sound on thin clients using fiesty????
[04:37] <sbalneav> Yep, they work for me
[05:10] <th1a> Hi RichEd.
[05:10] <RichEd> hi tom ...
[05:10] <RichEd> looking forward to meeting you in the flesh
[05:10] <th1a> I have a couple questions about the summit.
[05:10] <ogra> hey tom
[05:10] <th1a> Indeed.  You too.
[05:10] <RichEd> sure ... fire away
[05:10] <th1a> Hi ogra.
[05:11] <th1a> How long is my SchoolTool talk?
[05:11] <th1a> ogra: Yes, the two of you have a lot to talk about.
[05:11] <ogra> great :)
[05:11] <ogra> lookig forward to that ...
[05:11] <th1a> I didn't want to be stuck trying to explain the issues in Zope 3 component packaging.
[05:11] <ogra> i was very sad we couldnt ship shooltool this release .... that shouldnt happen again in the future
[05:12] <th1a> ogra: Yes, that's the goal.
[05:12] <ogra> well, feisty is out ... lets not moan about spiled milk ;)
[05:12] <ogra> *spilled
[05:12] <th1a> We just had our head down writing code while the packaging issues steadily piled up.
[05:12] <RichEd> th1a: you can do a 30 min presentation to a general audience, 10 mins q&a
[05:12] <ogra> we'll do better in gutsy
[05:12] <th1a> ogra: This summit should help.  Plus we've got a lot more working code now!
[05:13] <ogra> yay
[05:13] <RichEd> and then you can also have a BOF discussion session with the technical track ... either in UES or in UDS
[05:13] <LaserJock> RichEd: is there a schedule up for UES yet?
[05:13] <th1a> RichEd: OK, so the 30 minute talk is more to educators, administrators, etc.
[05:13] <RichEd> i.e. 30 mins sales pitch ... to get the demand up
[05:13] <th1a> RichEd: OK.
[05:14] <RichEd> and then a roll up sleeves, what needs to be done by who, when to deliver
[05:14] <RichEd> LaserJock: need to have it done by 3:00 pm tomorrow my time
[05:14] <RichEd> that will be my morning
[05:14] <RichEd> (time spoken for)
[05:14] <ogra> whats that in utc ?
[05:14] <th1a> RichEd: You had also initially mentioned doing a talk on "open source in ed in the US," which I have been planning in my head, but I guess it isn't on the agenda now.
[05:14] <ogra> i have a talk on the openweek tomorrow
[05:15] <LaserJock> any of you guys getting to seville on the evening of the 2nd?
[05:15] <RichEd> LaserJock: yep most should be ... I will
[05:16] <LaserJock> I was hoping somebody would be taking that same Madrid->Seville filght
[05:16] <LaserJock> *flight
[05:16] <RichEd> LaserJock: I'll be in seville from the monday evening via paris ... no help
[05:17] <th1a> RichEd: If you'd like me to give a short talk on that topic, I can, but I haven't spent serious time on it, so I won't be offended if it doesn't fit the schedule now.
[05:18] <RichEd> th1a: we'll have lightning talks as the last session on each day ... 5-10 mins ... to stimulate debate and chats around the dinner table / bar
[05:18] <RichEd> no prep needed, just a forum to raise ideas / concerns / onservations
[05:18] <RichEd> so that would fit well there
[05:18] <LaserJock> "Edubuntu rocks! kthxbye" ;-)
[05:19] <th1a> OK, I'll do that.  Do I need to sign up on the wiki?
[05:19] <RichEd> I'll be updating the wiki tomorrow:
[05:19] <RichEd> attendees
[05:19] <RichEd> agenda
[05:19] <RichEd> BOFs
[05:19] <RichEd> etc.
[05:19] <RichEd> Will add you there
[05:19] <th1a> RichEd: Thanks.
[05:20] <th1a> ogra: Another thing we'll need to talk about is SIF -- I'm working on a "Zone Integration Server" that only uses stuff in Ubuntu core (mod_python, sqlite, simpletal, etc.) so it should be easy to package.
[05:21] <ogra> th1a, i dont mid iling main inclusion reports if you need other stuff :)
[05:21] <ogra> *filing
[05:22] <th1a> ogra: Actually, these are turning out to be excellent choices anyhow.  Also, everything is in Fedora and probably will be on the OLPC server, so it makes sense all around.
[05:22] <ogra> cool
[05:46] <ogra> :)
[06:41] <dabaR> Hi,.
[06:48] <LaserJock> hi dabaR
[06:48] <dabaR> hi
[08:25] <LaserJock> ogra: you might find this interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420063
[08:27] <ogra> LaserJock, i have mail from upstream aready
[08:27] <ogra> *already
[08:28] <LaserJock> cool
[08:28] <LaserJock> I didn't quite get the license, but it seems like it might be suitable for at least Multiverse
[08:29] <ogra> yep
[08:29] <ogra> impara (the company behind it is from germany)
[08:34] <ogra> they complain about broken GL support in our package btw
[08:34] <LaserJock> in what package?
[08:34] <ogra> Wir benutzen
[08:34] <ogra> zur Zeit unsere eigene und nicht die Ubuntu-Squeak-Version, weil diese
[08:34] <ogra> Probleme mit OpenGL hat.
[08:35] <ogra> we are currently using our own squeak version because upstream has problems with OpenGL
[08:35] <ogra> s/upstream/the Ubuntu-Squeak-Version/
[08:35] <ogra> sorry
[08:37] <LaserJock> ah
[08:38] <LaserJock> well, our Squeak needs redone
[08:44] <ogra> yeah
[09:40] <bluekuja> cbx33: ping
[10:32] <lns> I know this is ubuntu-specific, but has anyone here upgraded 6.06 to 7.04 on a 64-bit architecture with 32-bit thin clients?
[11:00] <cliebow> lns: i believe you  will have  to  build the client on a 32 b it  machine if  clients are 32 bit..so  update feisty  on server then download perhaps the chroot tarball and dump it in /opt/ltsp
[11:16] <lns> cliebow, when I installed Edgy I used a commandline parm. for building the chroot, something like --arch-i386 - would that work, you think?
[11:16] <lns> Can't remember the command to build it, i think it was build-client-chroot or similar
[11:18] <lns> ahh, ltsp-build-client