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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Feisty Out! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | test KDE 4 "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main" | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Apr 19 16:22:08 2007 | ||
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| manchicken_ | I found a graphics card that works in LTS but not Feisty. | 06:21 |
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| manchicken_ | S3 something | 06:21 |
| manchicken_ | I'm going to get a hardware profile and submit it tomorrow. | 06:22 |
| manchicken_ | Nighty night folks. | 06:22 |
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| jpetso | Riddell: ping | 09:52 |
| jpetso | Riddell: yesterday i noticed that pptp-linux is not installed with the default desktop cd installer | 09:52 |
| jpetso | Riddell: that thing is crucial for us austrians to get logged into adsl | 09:53 |
| jpetso | Riddell: who should i bug with this? | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | pptp-linux? | 09:54 |
| Hobbsee | !info pptp-linux feisyt | 09:54 |
| ubotu | pptp-linux: Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.0-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 164 kB | 09:54 |
| Hobbsee | good question. wait for Riddell | 09:54 |
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| giangy | 'morning | 10:11 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 10:11 |
| giangy | Hobbsee: ahyo :-) | 10:11 |
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| Riddell | jpetso: pptp is on ship, so it's on the CD | 11:39 |
| jpetso | Riddell: but it's not in Adept after installing Kubuntu, not even as "not installed" | 11:40 |
| jpetso | Riddell: who should know that it's there, and how to get it from the CD | 11:40 |
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| Riddell | jpetso: fair point | 11:42 |
| jpetso | Riddell: in more ancient versions, i can remember that it was listed as "not installed", and could easily be gotten | 11:43 |
| jpetso | Riddell: seems like something has changed in the initial repository handling | 11:43 |
| Riddell | well, alternate CDs will add themselves to the sources.list so it'll be available from that, live CDs don't so people will indeed need to do some searching | 11:45 |
| Riddell | I'll discuss it with the seed master at UDS | 11:45 |
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| jpetso | Riddell: thanks! (catched up to your response only now) | 01:10 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:12 |
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| Riddell | neversfelde: know anyone going to linuxtag? | 03:34 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: Czessi for example | 03:35 |
| sebas | Riddell: /me | 03:35 |
| Riddell | canonical is looking for someone to do a talk | 03:36 |
| Riddell | about kubuntu | 03:36 |
| Riddell | along with sladen talking about ubuntu | 03:36 |
| Riddell | Czessi: how are your talking skills? | 03:37 |
| sebas | I'm doing a talk about KDE, could do one about Kubuntu as well. I still have slides from the local LUG meeting. | 03:37 |
| sebas | So you could keep me as a backup | 03:39 |
| Riddell | or even the primary :) | 03:39 |
| sebas | Or that. | 03:39 |
| sebas | I've got to earn back that t-shirt | 03:39 |
| Riddell | true, so does ade infact | 03:40 |
| Riddell | _seaLne: how much are those t-shirts again? | 03:40 |
| sebas | Did ade get a t-shirt as well? | 03:40 |
| neversfelde | I think talking is not Czessis favourite hobby | 03:40 |
| sebas | He only wears his old ones lately | 03:40 |
| Riddell | he scrounged one while in glasgow | 03:40 |
| sebas | That bastard. | 03:41 |
| Czessi | Riddell: \sh is also going to linuxtag. i think, he is the right guy for it | 03:43 |
| jjesse | morning | 03:44 |
| Riddell | \sh: how's your speaking skills? | 03:46 |
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| kwwii | if it comes down to just speaking, I am very good at that ;-) | 03:53 |
| Riddell | kwwii: oh aye, forgot you were going. fancy being the Kubuntu half of the talk? | 03:54 |
| kwwii | Riddell: a) how long is it; b) what is it exactly about; c) who can help with the info I should present | 03:55 |
| sebas | kwwii: I can get you my slides (they're in EN) | 03:58 |
| Riddell | kwwii: see #canonical | 04:00 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krename/+bug/107552 | 04:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 107552 in krename "krename crash if i want rename files again." [Low,Fix committed] | 04:06 |
| nixternal | I attached a feisty debdiff to fix that | 04:06 |
| nixternal | !info krename edgy | 04:07 |
| ubotu | krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1240 kB | 04:07 |
| Riddell | nixternal: don't change the maintainer or add XSBC-; distro to feisty-proposed and explain if why not updating the preview won't affect the user, then subscribe ubuntu-sru | 04:08 |
| kwwii | sebas: I'd love to have your slides, if possible | 04:08 |
| nixternal | it crashes out of the dpkg-buildpackage if I don't do it | 04:08 |
| nixternal | so leave the maintainer field alone then? | 04:09 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: yes, minimal changes only allowed for -updates | 04:13 |
| nixternal | roger | 04:13 |
| Riddell | nixternal: you need to edit a script to stop it quitting, just grep for whatever the error message is and put a hash infront of that line | 04:14 |
| sebas | kwwii: possible. I'll email them. | 04:14 |
| nixternal | OK, fixed dpkg-source to stop that silly warning and stopper for maintainer | 04:18 |
| nixternal | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17404/ | 04:19 |
| nixternal | is that small enough now? | 04:20 |
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| manchicken | Michael Dell runs Ubuntu Feisty Fawn... | 04:26 |
| manchicken | http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp | 04:26 |
| manchicken | heh | 04:26 |
| kwwii | sebas: great, thanks :-) | 04:28 |
| \sh | Riddell, what? | 04:32 |
| \sh | Riddell, I don't have time to speak on linuxtag...I'm busy doing kubuntu booth, FAI booth and some promoting stuff for LPI and my company | 04:33 |
| Riddell | \sh: is cool, kwwii will do it | 04:34 |
| \sh | Riddell, what I can try to do is a 2nd talk during froscon about kubuntu... | 04:34 |
| \sh | next to my fai talk | 04:34 |
| sebas | kenworldwartwo: slides sent | 04:36 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: OK, I think I got bug 107552 correct. Can you comment, or anyone for that matter on if I have that correct? If not, I will make changes shortly from school. Thanks! | 05:03 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 107552 in krename "krename crash if i want rename files again." [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107552 | 05:03 |
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| DaSkreech | Hello everyone :) | 05:31 |
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| LongPointyStick | yay, krename | 05:55 |
| LongPointyStick | hi DaSkreech | 05:55 |
| === LongPointyStick --> bed | ||
| LongPointyStick | night all! | 05:55 |
| DaSkreech | Hi LongPointyStick | 05:56 |
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| Guid | Hi _o/ | 06:05 |
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| mhb | good evening folks | 08:27 |
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| zebulon | hi | 08:29 |
| zebulon | I have a question about Adept in Feisty | 08:29 |
| zebulon | Now that it uses checkboxes (instead of editing directly /etc/apt/sources.list), how does it know the actual distribution is Feisty? | 08:30 |
| DaSkreech | lsb_release -a | 08:31 |
| zebulon | ok, thanks | 08:31 |
| zebulon | So when lsb package is updated in gutsy, Adept will use gutsy channels when selected through the checkboxes. | 08:32 |
| zebulon | is it right? | 08:33 |
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| Riddell | yes | 08:36 |
| zebulon | many thanks. | 08:37 |
| \sh | hmm?? | 08:38 |
| \sh | when lsb-base/lsb-release will be updated, adept will use gutsies repos? did I understand that correctly? | 08:38 |
| zebulon | that was I was asking: how adept maps the "Kubuntu release" checkboxes with the current distribution | 08:39 |
| zebulon | since it is not specified in Adept, Adept has to take the repository name somwhere | 08:39 |
| zebulon | so apprently this is by using the output of lsb_release -a, if I understood correctly. | 08:40 |
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| \sh | I would say, when you use gutsy, you updated your sources.list already | 08:42 |
| Riddell | that's true too :) | 08:42 |
| \sh | so it's normal that you will see "gutsy" as release | 08:42 |
| zebulon | \sh: sure, but in that case, in the current Adept, gutsy reps appear as third parties, not in the main "Kubuntu reps" tab (with checkboxes). | 08:43 |
| \sh | zebulon, then adept is doing a fetch of all dist files on archive.ubuntu.com or on the mirrors | 08:43 |
| zebulon | At one moment in Gutsy development, the transfer from third-party reps to the main ones has to occur | 08:43 |
| zebulon | And this was the meaning of my question: how does that occur, and this is through a lsb release update | 08:44 |
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| zebulon | Actually my question was regarding the internals of Adept instead of the update process itself :) | 08:45 |
| \sh | zebulon, using the source of adept | 08:45 |
| \sh | in kubuntu_updater | 08:45 |
| \sh | if (developmentVersion) { | 08:46 |
| \sh | upgradeURL = config->readEntry(QString("upgradeURL"), QString("http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development")); | 08:46 |
| \sh | } else { | 08:46 |
| \sh | upgradeURL = config->readEntry(QString("upgradeURL"), QString("http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release")); | 08:46 |
| zebulon | thanks \sh, inetresting | 08:46 |
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| _StefanS_ | evening | 08:47 |
| \sh | zebulon, if you have ubuntus deb-src lines in your sources.list, do an apt-get source adept...and read for yourself :) | 08:47 |
| zebulon | \sh, thanks :) | 08:48 |
| zebulon | need to go, many thanks for your answers guys. | 08:48 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: ping! | 08:48 |
| \sh | zebulon, every time :)= | 08:48 |
| \sh | Riddell, is mornfall still working on adept? | 08:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: he hopes so, but I don't think he has much time for it | 08:52 |
| sebas | _Sime_: pong | 08:55 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: Hi, I'm working out travel for akademy. | 08:55 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: have you got anything booked yet? | 08:55 |
| sebas | Nope, probably going by train | 08:55 |
| sebas | ade's taking the train as well | 08:56 |
| _Sime_ | not flying? | 08:56 |
| sebas | Nope :) | 08:56 |
| \sh | Riddell, I think he is busy with RH? | 08:56 |
| sebas | Nijmegen - Roosendaal - Brussels - London - Glasgow, should take ~12hrs | 08:57 |
| _Sime_ | I'll check that out... | 08:58 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: leaving on the friday? | 08:58 |
| sebas | I think so, yes | 08:58 |
| sebas | _Sime_: I think it's ~200 EUR by train | 08:59 |
| _Sime_ | it's about ~200 euro by plane. | 09:00 |
| sebas | Well :) | 09:00 |
| _Sime_ | looking at the ns planner, the trip to Londen looks awful. | 09:00 |
| sebas | How so? | 09:00 |
| Riddell | ns planner? | 09:02 |
| Riddell | I'd use eurostar.com and firstscotrail.com | 09:03 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: the trip contains a long boot ride. I'll try using brussels as a waypoint. | 09:03 |
| sebas | _Sime_: No boat, from Brussels, that's the Eurostar to London | 09:04 |
| _Sime_ | I'm looking up eurostar now... | 09:04 |
| sebas | We ususally use treinreiswinkel.nl =) | 09:04 |
| _Sime_ | all i want is something that will plan it all out without me needed to duct-tape 3 different websites together in my head. | 09:10 |
| Riddell | boat? ferry to Edinburgh? | 09:13 |
| sebas | _Sime_: treinreiswinkel.nl :) | 09:14 |
| sebas | They send tickets and schedule | 09:14 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: ja ja | 09:14 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: it says that I can't book that trip on the 'net | 09:14 |
| Riddell | british transport is entirely disconnected from the continent | 09:14 |
| sebas | Yeah, international trains booking online sucks donkey balls | 09:14 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm how do I find out if Algorithm::Diff is present in some of the perl-modules available in feisty ? | 09:15 |
| DaSkreech | anyone uses mateedit? | 09:16 |
| _StefanS_ | ah :D found it | 09:16 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: nope sorry | 09:16 |
| === _StefanS_ just ordered a ps3 with all the bells and whistles... time for some protein folding :D | ||
| Riddell | _StefanS_: cool, you can try the Kubuntu CD on it | 09:17 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: no idea about perl I'm afraid | 09:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: surely I will :) | 09:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: found it :) - it was called libalgorithm-diff-perl | 09:18 |
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| _StefanS_ | sort of the reverse order | 09:18 |
| _StefanS_ | is kate a good perl editor, or should I go with komodo or something (?) | 09:18 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm kate doesn't seem to do function lookups | 09:19 |
| _StefanS_ | komodo it is. | 09:19 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: I'm planning to depart on the friday and return on the thursday. What are your plans? | 09:20 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm all this fuss about netbeans being included in feisty; it just basically means you have download it yourself first ? :) | 09:22 |
| _StefanS_ | I just managed to spend $1458 for that ps3 in total.. jeeez. When you do stuff, you have to go all the way hehe | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | There is a PPC-ps3 Kubuntu CD ? | 09:25 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: I just think its the regular ppc one | 09:25 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/feisty/release/ | 09:25 |
| _StefanS_ | oh | 09:25 |
| Riddell | not regular, different linux build I think | 09:25 |
| _StefanS_ | ah sweet :) | 09:25 |
| DaSkreech | there is one patched to work specifically with the PS3 as well AFAIR | 09:26 |
| _StefanS_ | bend and fold proteins wooha | 09:26 |
| DaSkreech | :-) Which team are you joining? | 09:27 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: ah I dont know, is there an ubuntu one ? :) | 09:27 |
| _StefanS_ | Well I heard it uses 200watts when folding that stuff, so its kinda power hungry | 09:27 |
| _StefanS_ | My tv uses 200watts also.. | 09:28 |
| sebas | _Sime_: I'll on friday and leave the day after the last hackathon day | 09:28 |
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| DaSkreech | _StefanS_: There should be | 09:28 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: uhm I will have to look into that, AFTER i have downloaded the preview of Gran Turismo HD :D | 09:29 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: when is that? hackathon isn't even on the site now. | 09:29 |
| DaSkreech | I want fluxbuntu to recode for the PS3 :) | 09:29 |
| DaSkreech | that would be sweet :) | 09:30 |
| _StefanS_ | fluxbuntu ? | 09:30 |
| _StefanS_ | fluxbox or something ? :D | 09:30 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 09:30 |
| DaSkreech | #fluxbuntu | 09:30 |
| DaSkreech | They want to become a PS3 distro | 09:30 |
| _StefanS_ | wow never heard of it | 09:30 |
| sebas | http://akademy.kde.org/ until saturday 7th, _Sime_ | 09:30 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: ok, AKA "the long haul" | 09:31 |
| _StefanS_ | If I only didn't have to work, then I could be doing stuff on kubuntu fulltime :D | 09:31 |
| _StefanS_ | would be nice though | 09:31 |
| sebas | _Sime_: Yeah. | 09:31 |
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| sebas | I barely had enough time to speak everyone I wanted last year | 09:31 |
| jjesse | why aren't workds like Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Kontact, etc part of the sdtandard dictionary? | 09:40 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: flying, friday and friday, 167 euro. | 09:40 |
| _Sime_ | sebas: return of course | 09:40 |
| sebas | _Sime_: + train to Schiphol | 09:41 |
| _Sime_ | true | 09:42 |
| DaSkreech | _StefanS_: Ask them to pay you to work on Kubuntu :) | 09:47 |
| _StefanS_ | DaSkreech: well I dont think I have enough reputation to even be considered ;) | 09:47 |
| DaSkreech | jjesse: I often wonder that. They are part of the Windows Dictionary | 09:47 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: I'm guessing it won't be a problem checking into the akademy accomodation in the evening. | 09:53 |
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| Riddell | _Sime_: no, 24 hours I believe | 09:59 |
| _Sime_ | ok, cool. Then I can arrive in the evening, go to the pub, get 3 hours sleep sharing a room with some weird computer people, and then give a presentation first thing the next morning. | 10:02 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: rock and roll lifestyle | 10:18 |
| sebas | hehe yay! | 10:19 |
| _StefanS_ | Well I'm off .. | 10:20 |
| sebas | Speaking of which, my plane arrives in Sevilla at .20 | 10:20 |
| _StefanS_ | good night | 10:20 |
| sebas | brb | 10:20 |
| _Sime_ | the travel website screwed up. | 10:21 |
| _Sime_ | with an ERROR(7), they will phone me up, they say... ok. | 10:22 |
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| ryanakca | Why do they all say Amarok <@sampi> ... Kopete <@sampi>, etc | 11:10 |
| ryanakca | sampi is my old hostname. I changed it in /etc/hosts, hostname shows sigma now... and I've rebooted... bug? | 11:11 |
| DaSkreech | does bash say that? | 11:13 |
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