[12:14] <tony_> anyone care to help on a resolution problem?
[12:17] <eXistenZ> feisty is just cool
[12:17] <tony_> yeah, but it can be feisty
[12:18] <tony_> does anyone have widescreen here?
[12:18] <jarle> jarn: rsync
[12:18] <jarn> jarle: Is it graphical?
[12:18] <jarle> jarn: no, console
[12:19] <jarn> jarle: Any graphical ones?
[12:19] <xerosis> tony_: i do
[12:19] <jarle> jarn: have no idea...
[12:19] <pestilence> jarn: rsync is very, very easy.
[12:19] <jarn> pestilence: Is it?
[12:20] <jarn> pestilence: It doesn't look that way... There are SO many options.
[12:20] <tony_> xerosis, any luck on kubuntu feisty? i had a working xorg.conf file at first, don't know how it won't go to 1680x1050 now
[12:20] <jarle> jarn: this is what I use for my backup: "rsync -verbose -progres -a --delete /biggen2/mp3 /mnt/backup"
[12:21] <xerosis> tony_: have you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[12:21] <tony_> yeah, i suppose i could try again
[12:21] <pestilence> jarn: but really, if you just want to backup, rsync -a used in a very similar manner to the command "cp", will do it.
[12:21] <tony_> xerosis, should i just choose 1680x1050 as the only resolution?
[12:22] <xerosis> tony_: are you running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[12:22] <pestilence> jarn: i mean, you may want to decide if you want to keep files that disappear or not.  that's when you'd start looking at options
[12:22] <tony_> xerosis, yes, tried it
[12:22] <xerosis> tony_: what was wrong?
[12:22] <jarn> pestilence: I was hoping for a graphical one to do that.
[12:22] <jarn> pestilence: Because I would like to do that.
[12:23] <tony_> xerosis, i can get the other resolutions but 1680... other res's don't look as good for text
[12:23] <jarn> pestilence: I guess I'll just delete the entire directory on my harddrive and cp it from the external.
[12:23] <pestilence> jarn: it's your funeral.
[12:23] <jarn> pestilence: What is wrong with doing that?
[12:23] <xerosis> tony_: might not be helpful but have you tried changing the hinting on the fonts/
[12:24] <pestilence> jarn: just formulate whatever command you would with cp, and then substitute cp with rsync
[12:24] <utnubuk> when i try to upgrade to feisty i get this error on xfonts-scalable:
[12:24] <jarle> jarn: A lot more stress on HD and CPU than what you need to do...
[12:24] <tony_> xerosis, yeah, got sub-pixel hinting to full
[12:24] <pestilence> jarn: because it could a) take days to complete and b) wear out your hardware
[12:24] <xerosis> hmm
[12:24] <utnubuk> E: /sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)
[12:24] <gulars_> are there instructions anywhere as to how you'd set up feisty fully encrypted?
[12:24] <jarle> jarn: why do it the hard way, when rsync is juts so easy?
[12:24] <xerosis> tony_: did you select 'medium' option for refresh rate?
[12:24] <utnubuk> what can i do to resolve this?
[12:24] <jarn> pestilence: I'm not doing my entire hd... It's my 10gig music folder.
[12:24] <jarn> jarle: ffs, something isn't easy when it's got a list of options that's two pages long.
[12:24] <tony_> xerosis, no
[12:25] <groo_> hi/2 all.. anyone here having problems with epson usb printers?
[12:25] <xerosis> tony_: try that, i find it sets my refresh rate better
[12:25] <jarle> jarn: the options is for advanced users, not everybody..
[12:25] <pestilence> jarn: so --delete will delete files that have disappeared.
[12:25] <Raven301> Can anyone help me with the knetworkmanager?
[12:25] <jarn> Well, I've already started with cp.
[12:26] <tony_> xerosis, done it, can't tell any difference though i guess til i restart
[12:26] <xerosis> tony_: yeah, need to restart X
[12:27] <tony_> xerosis, in monitor and display settings, what is best for image format, 4:3 or widescreen? if i go widescreen, it's too narrow. same for you?
[12:27] <Arwen> tony_, uh, depends on your monitor's resolution...
[12:27] <Arwen> mine is 5:4 so I have it set that way...
[12:28] <xerosis> mine says 4:3
[12:28] <crackhead_25_> question: what's the best and easy to use kde app for mounting iso images etc.  so that i dont have to go to commandline and use mount everytime? anything do it automatically, like daemon tools in window$??
[12:29] <tony_> mine i always want to be 1680x1050, what exactly is that? 10:9?
[12:29] <Arwen> crackhead_25_, yes.... fstab.... or a simple shell script
[12:29] <crackhead_25_> fstab is in the commandline, too. isn't it?
[12:29] <Arwen> tony_, 16:9 I think... maybe 16:10
[12:29] <Arwen> crackhead_25_, it's a file...
[12:29] <tony_> thanks for the help guys
[12:29] <Arwen> tony_, it's 16:10 (math, anyone?)
[12:30] <tony_> i sucked at math
[12:30] <crackhead_25_> so what do i do with the file? im trying to avoid doing anything with the commandline and to make it more point-and-click..
[12:30] <Arwen> crackhead_25_, learn to use the command line, geez
[12:30] <crackhead_25_> thanks, arwen. real helpful for a newb. and if i don't have the time exactly to do that this moment?
[12:31] <Arwen> ...I've yet to see an OS that can be used without command line knowledge..
[12:31] <lynxo> !udgrade
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <Arwen> and don't say Windows or OS X
[12:31] <Arwen> !upgrade | Lynoure
[12:31] <ubotu> Lynoure: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:31] <Arwen> ...
[12:31] <lynxo> !upgrade
[12:31] <manchicken> Arwen: Nintendo has many of them :)
[12:31] <lynxo> !upgrade
[12:31] <Arwen> manchicken, lol
[12:31] <manchicken> Arwen: Wii, Xbox, Playstation :)
[12:31] <danny500> Hey guy's, I have a really bad problem
[12:31] <Arwen> lynxo, stop doing that and just scroll a few lines up
[12:31] <Arwen> danny500, eh?
[12:32] <manchicken> Arwen: Don't forget palmos and almost any cell phone OS :)
[12:32] <crackhead_25_> i have limited commandline knowledge. enough to use all three os's. however, mounting iso's in windows so far has been easier as point-and-click with daemon tools than i've found with kubuntu.. unless someone can suggest a better tool than going back to commandline everytime?
[12:32] <eagles0513875> crackhead_25_: use k3b
[12:32] <jarn> pestilence: I found a gui for rsync... grsync
[12:32] <eagles0513875> tthat should do what u need it to do
[12:32] <Arwen> crackhead_25_, set it to open with something like "mountiso.sh" and write a script saying "mount -t iso9660 -o loop $1 /media/ISO"
[12:32] <tony_> crackhead_25_, try the automount service menu....kdelook.org
[12:33] <Tm_T> manchicken: change clean pants and stop trolling ] ;=
[12:33] <danny500> When I try to load up my Ubuntu 6.10 it tells me that It can't load Gnome and when I read what is wrong it's whins about not being able to us me graphics card gpu and that there is no screen availiable
[12:33] <tony_> crackhead_25_, just right-click and select mount image
[12:33] <manchicken> Tm_T: clean pants are overrated.
[12:33] <Tm_T> manchicken: true in most cases
[12:34] <Arwen> lol....
[12:34] <jarle> seems I have s script in /etc/cron.weekly/ that has not been run for quite some time, Any logs I can have a look in to see if my cron.weeekly is working ok?
[12:34] <Tm_T> manchicken: btw have you seen mine? it
[12:34] <manchicken> Arwen: But that guy isn't wearing any pants.
[12:34] <Tm_T> s getting cold here
[12:34] <danny500> is anyone going to help or am I stuck with a broken computer?
[12:34] <manchicken> I saw an ascii-art goatse once.  It was quite clever.
[12:35] <jarle> danny500: what gfx card and driver are you using?
[12:35] <manchicken> Evidently there's a program that will convert GIF's into ascii-art rather well.
[12:35] <danny500> nvidia
[12:35] <Tm_T> manchicken: called GIMP
[12:35] <danny500> I'm using the glx driver from synaptic
[12:35] <jarle> danny500: and card?
[12:35] <manchicken> Tm_T: And what does GIMP use? :)
[12:36] <danny500> don't know why it's bitching now it was working perfectly for a week
[12:36] <Tm_T> manchicken: or, hm, I think mplayer than too, both can use aalib
[12:36] <danny500> NVIDIA Vanta/Vanta LT
[12:36] <jarle> danny500: have a look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/89290
[12:36] <danny500> TNT
[12:36] <sticksabuser> hey all...
[12:37] <danny500> thing is is it's not restricted, I've been using it for like a week now
[12:37] <danny500> why mess up now?
[12:37] <Tm_T> manchicken: I watched some movies in colour ascii mode (mplayer + libcaca)
[12:37] <sticksabuser> Anyone know how to format a usb flash drive under kubuntu?
[12:37] <manchicken> Nice.
[12:37] <tim> i installed invidia trivers but apparently its not using them, i dont have opengl yet
[12:37] <jarle> danny500: and using the "nv" driver instead will let you boot into X if you need to..
[12:37] <manchicken> That sounds... confusing.
[12:37] <manchicken> sticksabuser: Same way you format anything?
[12:38] <manchicken> sticksabuser: mkfs -t FSTYPE /dev/sda0 or whatever device it's being set as.
[12:38] <Tm_T> manchicken: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/ASCII-Movie-01.png
[12:38] <jarle> danny500: the "nvidia" driver is restricted, the "nv" driver is not..
[12:38] <manchicken> sticksabuser: Or, better yet, use konqueror to do so.
[12:38] <danny500> how do I mount my hard drive?
[12:38] <danny500> I'm in live cd
[12:38] <sticksabuser> thanks manchicken
[12:38] <danny500> I'm just going to delete the driver i installed
[12:39] <tim> the kde system try icons used to be smaller, when I updated they are larget and they cant be changed, any help?
[12:39] <manchicken> danny500: mount -t FSTYPE /dev/DEVICE /MOUNTPOINT
[12:39] <manchicken> danny500: Did you try just booting under failsafe?
[12:39] <danny500> how do I do that?
[12:39] <jarle> danny500: I would not suggest you do that(!), you're better of editing xorg.conf to get it using a working driver..
[12:39] <manchicken> danny500: Just remove the disc, reboot, and when grub says to hit escape, hit escape and select the failsafe kernel.
[12:39] <gulars_> are there instructions anywhere as to how you'd set up feisty fully encrypted?
[12:39] <manchicken> err option
[12:40] <manchicken> gulars_: Why would you want to do something like that?
[12:40] <danny500> there is no failsafe
[12:40] <manchicken> danny500: No failsafe?
[12:40] <danny500> yeah
[12:40] <danny500> what are the odds of that
[12:40] <gulars_> I'm aware of that
[12:40] <manchicken> danny500: I think you can just boot like normal, but set an argument of just "2" in there.
[12:40] <sticksabuser> manchicken: how would I use konqueror to format?
[12:40] <tim> !nvidia
[12:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <danny500> hu?
[12:41] <gulars_> debian etch have a preset for using lvm and dm_crypt (?) to encrypt most of the harddrive
[12:41] <danny500> I can't install drivers when omputer won't work
[12:41] <gulars_> are there something similar in kubuntu
[12:41] <gulars_> ?
[12:42] <tim> danny who says that was for you?
[12:42] <danny500> who's saying it's not? :P
[12:42] <tim> fu
[12:42] <jarle> danny500: edit xorg.conf and replace "nvidia" with "nv" and you will have a booting system...
[12:42] <danny500> now now, settle down
[12:42] <danny500> how do I do that?
[12:43] <danny500> I've never used command line really
[12:43] <danny500> only to install stuff
[12:43] <evissecx> I need help about kopete. ever since I upgraded too feisty, the webcam slows down kopete. Can't see what i'm typing. Have to wait for the text to show.
[12:43] <evissecx> is there i fix?
[12:43] <evissecx> ideas?
[12:44] <jbunt> hey, is anyone else having issues getting samba shares working in kubuntu 7.04?
[12:44] <evissecx> i =a
[12:44] <danny500> jbunt: uninstall samba then reinstall my buddy had the same problem
[12:44] <jarn> Wow... downloading 1834 files for upgrade to Feisty.
[12:44] <danny500> lol
[12:45] <danny500> let me guess 28 hours till done?
[12:45] <Catsoup> Does Beryl play nice with Fiesty Kubuntu?
[12:45] <danny500> yes, it's built in
[12:45] <Catsoup> :] 
[12:45] <jbunt> danny500: tried that twice lol, guess i can always try again tho...
[12:45] <danny500> ko
[12:45] <danny500> ok
[12:46] <Skyblast> jbunt: I have a couple of shares running fine... What's yours doing wrong?
[12:46] <danny500> brb dinner time
[12:46] <evissecx> what clients is there that supports webcam with msn messenger?
[12:46] <dg10050> hello, I was just going to upgrade to Feisty, but I also have kubuntu-desktop installed on Ubuntu and I was wondering if that will mess anything up.
[12:46] <jarle> danny500: you just boot like normal, and when it fails to boot, you login and then run "sudo <yourfavouritetexteditor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:46] <Skyblast> evissecx: Tried Kopete? I see it has webcam butons for my MSN pals
[12:46] <jordo23> I am trying to install my Nvidia drivers for my GeForce 6800 in Kubuntu. I tried using the resticted-device manager and it says enabled, but still don't have higher resolutions.....any ideas?
[12:47] <jarn> dg10050: Naw, an hour. ;)
[12:47] <evissecx> I have kopete, but it doesn't work well
[12:47] <jarn> Er.
[12:47] <jarn> danny500: Naw, an hour. ;)
[12:47] <lynxo> whats the best way to upgrade to 7.04?
[12:47] <joe_> hey anyone fix the sound problem in feisty fawn?
[12:47] <stoft> joe_: what sound problem?
[12:47] <jarn> lynxo: With adept.
[12:47] <jarle> danny500: not sure what text editor you have installed that you will be able to use though...
[12:47] <iric> amarok claims no mp3 suport, but the restircted drivers are installed
[12:47] <joe_> there being no sound after the upgrade
[12:48] <joe_> its well noted as a bug in the forums, but i have yet to see a fix
[12:48] <lynxo>  what would i do in adept
[12:48] <Tachyon> I'm having trouble upgrading to Feisty.  The "upgrade wizard" comes up in Adept, but when I click "Finish" so that it will close Adept and start the upgrade tool, nothing happens.  Adept stays open, and the upgrade tool doesn't launch.
[12:48] <stoft> joe_: ah, didn't know there was one, for me it worked out of the box.
[12:48] <jordo23> Tachyon: That happened to me too.....then I tried thorugh command line and it failed overnight.....then I had to reformat and reinstall...
[12:49] <Tachyon> ...
[12:49] <evissecx> is there a way to downgrade kopete to an earlier version?
[12:49] <Tachyon> I'd rather not have to go through _that_ ...
[12:49] <jordo23> Tachyon: I know....me neither :)
[12:49] <joe_> heh i cant take having no sound
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti> where can I find my programs? I'm looking for ktorrent, it's not in sbin or bin
[12:50] <jbunt> Skyblast: I seem to be able to set the shares up fine, but when i try access them over the network it says file or folder not found
[12:50] <iric> amarok says no mp3 support, please help
[12:50] <Skyblast> iric: Try installing the libxine-ffmpeg package
[12:50] <danny500> Joe_: go into your media setting and tell it to use ALSA instead of AUto
[12:50] <qaz> codecs
[12:50] <lynxo> !mp3
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <jbunt> Skyblast: i can access the root share of the server, i.e. smb://server and the share folders are listed there, but when i click on the folder it complains about it not existing
[12:50] <lynxo> !adept
[12:51] <Skyblast> hmmmm
[12:51] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:51] <danny500> >	Joe_: go into your media setting and tell it to use ALSA instead of AUto
[12:51] <iric> lynxo i already installed the restricted
[12:51] <Skyblast> How did you go about setting your shares up
[12:51] <danny500> Joe_: go into your media setting and tell it to use ALSA instead of AUto
[12:51] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, i did that already
[12:51] <ForzaPalermo> nothing
[12:51] <ForzaPalermo> everything worked in 6.10
[12:51] <ForzaPalermo> and it still detects the hardware properly
[12:51] <ForzaPalermo> there is just no sound
[12:51] <iric> lynxo what next?
[12:53] <danny500> did you check your sound levels?
[12:53] <Skyblast> iric: Have you installed the libxine-ffmpeg package? That got mp3 working in amarok for me. The built in dialog box offering to install it for me kept jamming up
[12:53] <iric> skyblast, this was working yesturday without 3rd party packages, I had to reinstal because alsa messed up my system
[12:53] <jbunt> Skyblast: i "apt-get install samba", then used the interface in konqueror to set the shares up
[12:53] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, yes lol
[12:53] <lynxo> i'm unsure if u alredy have it all installed
[12:54] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, well im trying it again.... when i choose alsa... it says restarting sound system..... goes to 100% then restarts
[12:54] <iric> actually, none of the restricted, works, its installed but i cant watch movies
[12:54] <Catsoup> Is Feisty going to detect my Creative X-Fi Xtrememusic?
[12:54] <danny500> ok turn up your PCM, ADC, and DAC to max
[12:55] <Skyblast> hmmm, maybe there's something not right with konquerer talking to smb.conf. I set mine up the old school way by manually editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:55] <jbunt> alright maybe i'll give that a go, thanks
[12:55] <Skyblast> jbunt: Try setting them up manually. There's a good howto on ubuntuguide.org
[12:55] <danny500> ok
[12:56] <Skyblast> If that's the case you might wanna file a bug report on it
[12:56] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, no cluse where adc or dac is
[12:56] <sticksabuser> l8r
[12:56] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, and it still hasnt finished restarting the sound
[12:56] <danny500> sound volume manager
[12:56] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, yes im in there but no dac or adc
[12:56] <danny500> ok
[12:57] <danny500> guessing your card is diferent from mine
[12:57] <danny500> built in?
[12:57] <ForzaPalermo> no seperate
[12:57] <wolferine> anyone good with colors in xchat?
[12:57] <ForzaPalermo> i think its an audigy
[12:57] <danny500> do you have built in?
[12:57] <iric> was a new version of amarok released? it wont play mp3s, it freezes when it tells you that, and it defaults to the content tab which it has NEVER done before
[12:59] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, any reason why it still has a problem witht he alsa?
[12:59] <danny500> nope
[12:59] <danny500> never really had a prob with sound so never really went into research
[12:59] <iric> the restricted format package doesn't enable ANY of those formats  any idea?
[12:59] <danny500> is it me, or is there always something wrong with Linux?
[01:00] <testuser123> danny500: its work in progress.. but is any other os problem-free?
[01:00] <iric> testuser123: fresh install and shit already broke
[01:01] <ForzaPalermo> hes got a point there
[01:01] <danny500> yeah true but I've installed ubuntu like 16 times now
[01:01] <wolferine> !language iric
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language iric - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <danny500> iric, good point
[01:01] <wolferine> :/
[01:01] <testuser123> iric: what broke?
[01:01] <iric> pwned wolf
[01:01] <wolferine> kinda eh?
[01:01] <iric> testuser123 the restircted package doesnt let me play mp3 or avi, beryl wont boot
[01:02] <iric> amarok crashes when it tries to tell you how to enable m3s
[01:02] <ardchoille> xmms plays mp3's out-of-the-box
[01:02] <testuser123> have you visited a ubuntu related forum once? There are a lot of good explanations, why mp3, wmv and so on don't work out of the box
[01:02] <Skyblast> iric: please try sudo apt-get install libxine-ffmpeg! It will probably fix it!
[01:02] <danny500> ok I install Ubuntu, can't mount other drives and burning software won't work right off the bat, get that fixed. After that, konversasion firefox, xmms, and terminal won't work, get that fixed, now Gnome won't even load like come on
[01:02] <testuser123> and of course with tutorials to fix that
[01:03] <iric> testuser123: did you read what I said?  The restricted package is installed
[01:03] <Skyblast> Amarok uses xine, not gstreamer
[01:03] <iric> skyblast it wont fix my avi or my mov or my mp4
[01:03] <jarle> danny500: re-installing is not the linux-way, just editing a single file is often enough if you know how to do it....
[01:03] <Skyblast> Restricted manager won't grab it
[01:03] <iric> it worked before!
[01:03] <iric> !automatix
[01:03] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:03] <danny500> yes, but not if you don't know how to do it lol
[01:03] <ForzaPalermo> danny500, I FIXED I!
[01:03] <testuser123> ups - sorry - didnt see that
[01:03] <ForzaPalermo> SOUND WORKSSSSSSSSSSSS
[01:03] <danny500> :D
[01:04] <danny500> how did you do it?
[01:04] <ForzaPalermo> under switches
[01:04] <iric> skyblast at least type the package right if you want me to try it
[01:04] <ForzaPalermo> i had to uncheck audigy analog/digital
[01:04] <ForzaPalermo> weird but worked
[01:04] <danny500> lol ah, makes sense yah, forgot about that
[01:04] <Skyblast> libxine-ffmpeg... I typed it right. :P
[01:05] <Skyblast> staring at it in adept right now
[01:05] <danny500> how do I get into the xorg thing in command line?
[01:05] <iric> well I have no sound
[01:05] <DSlicer> Neither do I
[01:05] <danny500> check you sound switches
[01:05] <DSlicer> The only switches I have are Mic and Mono
[01:06] <danny500> is mute on?
[01:06] <DSlicer> Don't think so
[01:06] <danny500> are your speakers on? check the connections
[01:07] <DSlicer> The coaxial on my onboard sound isn't working. I tried the optical too
[01:07] <True_Friend> Hi folks i had changed (after upgrading to Fesity not my self it was system done) my hard drive configuration from /dev/hdax to /dev/sdax i so lost also the mounted drives then i managed to change /dev/hdax with /dev/sdax and now i have mounted volume but it does not show it by default i mean i some how made it to show media drives on desktop but now it is not doing this i cannot find an option now also surprizingly is there some thing wrong???
[01:07] <DSlicer> I may need to check the BIOS to see if the onboard audio is even enabled
[01:07] <danny500> how do I get into the xorg config file to edit it using command line?
[01:07] <DSlicer> I don't see the light coming out the optical cable like I usually do
[01:07] <testuser123> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:08] <danny500> then change nvidia to nv
[01:09] <iric> can someone help me get mp3s playing
[01:09] <danny500> I'm going to reboot, then write down everything it says and try to edit to xorg thingy and if that doesn't work I'll be back baby :D
[01:09] <danny500> iric: use xmms
[01:09] <danny500> lol
[01:10] <iric> whats xmms
[01:10] <jarle> isn't it possible to use symlinks in /etc/cron.weekly/ ? I have made a symlink to a script there, but it doesn't seem like the script is started...
[01:10] <danny500> use your package manager and look it up
[01:10] <testuser123> iric: sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:10] <evissecx> iric, xmms is a mp3 player, lilke winamp
[01:10] <EightiesK> how do i tell if the update worked?
[01:10] <danny500> iric: it's a music player that works pretty good, it's all I use for music
[01:10] <Ashex> !mp3 | iric
[01:10] <ubotu> iric: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:10] <testuser123> iric: its a simple "media"player - just like winamp..
[01:11] <danny500> iric: and it's pretty cool looking
[01:11] <danny500> lol
[01:11] <Skyblast> beep media player is a little more easy on the eyes
[01:11] <Ashex> ubotu knows all
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows all - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Skyblast> and you can use Winamp skins :)
[01:11] <iric> if anyone said anything to me just now i dind't see it
[01:11] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I restart my sound?
[01:11] <Ashex> !mp3 | iric
[01:11] <ubotu> iric: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <iric> ashex ive already done all that
[01:11] <danny500> ok brb. rebooting
[01:12] <Ashex> what's the error you encounter when trying to play an mp3?
[01:12] <iric> "no mp3 support"
[01:12] <dettoaltrimenti> device busy when I try to listen to audio
[01:12] <Ashex> then you haven't followed the guide i linked
[01:12] <precipizio> channel ita please
[01:12] <iric> yes I have
[01:12] <iric> calling me a liar?
[01:13] <Ashex> iric, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[01:13] <Skyblast> I still don't get why libxine-ffmpeg package didn't fix that.
[01:13] <testuser123> iric: do your mp3s play with xine directly? Sth like $ xine some.mp3
[01:13] <Skyblast> I think there are bigger problems with your setup
[01:13] <stepnjump> What is the best way to install a package guys on Kubuntu?
[01:13] <Ashex> !software | stepnjump
[01:13] <ubotu> stepnjump: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[01:13] <testuser123> stepnjump: sudo apt-get install :)
[01:14] <iric> testuser123: i dont use xine
[01:14] <Skyblast> iric, if you wanna use Amarok you do.
[01:14] <testuser123> iric: you use amarok, right?
[01:14] <stepnjump> Ubotu, are you a bot?
[01:14] <Ashex> iric, whip open terminal and run mplayer foo.mp3
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <testuser123> what backend then?
[01:14] <Ashex> just to test that it runs
[01:14] <stepnjump> Guess so...
[01:14] <stepnjump> thanks
[01:15] <iric> testuser123: yes
[01:15] <stepnjump> Anyone familiar with the Adept package manager in Kubuntu?
[01:15] <iric> I did the exact same thing I did last time, never installed xine or antying, just the restricted package, and it worked
[01:15] <iric> ashex I dont have mplayer and I dont want to install it
[01:15] <wolferine> whose involved (the channel) with creating the Ubuntu Guide?
[01:16] <testuser123> stepnjump: what do you want to know?
[01:16] <stepnjump> Oh thanks testuser
[01:16] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?
[01:16] <stepnjump> Well I don't know if there is a problem or something but when I click on add/remove, things are grayed out and I can't seem to be able to add new packages
[01:16] <Skyblast> All I know is the Install MP3 support button froze for me too, and installing that packages fixed it all.
[01:17] <stepnjump> when I go to ADEPT, I can't find the Quick find field anywhere
[01:17] <stepnjump> As documented in the instructions
[01:17] <iric> beryl doesn't even work, and this is a clean install
[01:17] <stepnjump> Quick FILTER rather
[01:17] <stepnjump> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:17] <iric> everything is buggy, things crashing etc
[01:17] <wolferine> whose involved (the channel) with creating the Ubuntu Guide?
[01:18] <EightiesK> !upgrade
[01:18] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:18] <crackhead_25_> question: should my edgy eft be updated to feisty now that it's been released, or are there still tons of bugs and problems? are there significant improvements and reasons?
[01:18] <iric> crackhead_25_: GET OUT while you still can!
[01:19] <testuser123> stepnjump: open a console and type adapt_manager
[01:19] <stepnjump> How can I get to see the QUICK FILTER in ADEPT?
[01:19] <stepnjump> Ok let me try
[01:19] <Skyblast> crackhead_25_: The upgrade is getting extremely mixed results.
[01:19] <testuser123> perhaps this is what u r lookin for
[01:19] <evissecx> iric, theres a lot of help on ubuntuforum. I got all to work using that forum
[01:19] <testuser123> sudo adept_manager would be better
[01:19] <jarle> aaroncampbell: Does digicam crash at startup, or do you have to do anything else to make it crash? It works fine her under feisty...
[01:20] <Skyblast> The upgrade royally bombed on my system, but things are working beautifully after a clean install from the final CD
[01:20] <iric> evissecx, my soundcard, my video card, amarok, beryl, k3b, imwheel, envy24control, and matlab have all given me huge problems
[01:20] <crackhead_25_> iric: what do you mean "get out while [i]  still can"? should i switch to a totally different distro altogether?
[01:20] <iric> this is all I have done for weeks
[01:20] <iric> week*
[01:21] <EightiesK> how do i update using adept?
[01:21] <iric> apparently, they broke the restricted/amarok during release, because now the site says use libxine and it dind't during beta, and it worked fine
[01:21] <tmbg> where is a guide to all of the eyecandy stuff now available in feisty?
[01:21] <evissecx> iric, new comp mayeb? :)
[01:21] <evissecx> maybe*
[01:21] <Skyblast> iric, this latest reload... did you do it from the "final" release CD?
[01:21] <iric> skyblast technically no
[01:21] <stepnjump> testuser123, are you sure it's adept_manager?
[01:22] <iric> its the same cd I used a week ago, but its been updated to final
[01:22] <stepnjump> It's not valid
[01:22] <aaroncampbell> jarle: at startup, with either big collections, or collections containing certain types of photos (not sure which yet)
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti> what's a terminal emulator that can change font size?
[01:22] <iric> evissecx yeah because a 4 year old soundcard, the one that is the 3rd hit on google when you search "chaintech" and a nvidia 7800gt are very rare hardware!
[01:22] <Skyblast> meh... I'd still try the final CD. A week ago things were pretty broken with that kernel update
[01:22] <ShaLaptop|Brb> someone know how to compile and use the .c files ?
[01:22] <stepnjump> or sudo adept_manager: COMMAND NOT FOUND
[01:22] <testuser123> stepnjump: for me it works, yes.. why? any problems with that?
[01:23] <stepnjump> Doesn't work for me in kubuntu
[01:23] <stepnjump> no
[01:23] <stepnjump> command not found it gives me
[01:23] <wolferine> whose involved (the channel) with creating the Ubuntu Guide?
[01:23] <evissecx> iric, use envy for graphics then. Or you already got that working?
[01:23] <EightiesK> anyone/
[01:23] <iric> evissecx thats the list ive had, dont try and help me, save yoru time, ive talked with peopel for hours about these problems
[01:23] <testuser123> EightiesK: fetch updates, commit changes
[01:24] <iric> im giving it "the shot it diseves" but it will quickly be filled away as, linux blows
[01:24] <testuser123> EightiesK: fetch updates, full upgrade,
[01:24] <EightiesK> thats all i have to do to get Feisty?
[01:24] <testuser123> stepnjump: strange..
[01:24] <testuser123> EightiesK: what version do you have at the moment?
[01:24] <stepnjump> I must have a corrupted installation: I don't even show the Adept Updater (System Update Wizard) in my installation
[01:25] <iric> I cant even fathem how this is considered stable,
[01:25] <testuser123> stepnjump: try: sudo apt-get install adept
[01:25] <EightiesK> 6.10
[01:25] <stepnjump> ok thanks test. let me try it now
[01:26] <Skyblast> iric: I wish I could disagree, but it sure sounds like feisty really is... well, feisty. I guess I am extremely lucky in that pretty much everything is working. if that xine package doesn't fix it, then that's bizarre, because that's what is uses on its backend
[01:26] <ryanakca> fresh feisty install, MD5SUM matched, no cursor... aka, invisible. Any ideas?
[01:26] <EightiesK> testuser123:
[01:26] <EightiesK> testuser123: Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
[01:26] <testuser123> EightiesK: well, i dont know, if adept does this well
[01:26] <testuser123> EightiesK: i'D rather use apt-get
[01:27] <stepnjump> Testuser123: I got:
[01:27] <stepnjump> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:27] <stepnjump> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:27] <testuser123> EightiesK: .. and manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <iric> mp3s work, only to reveal my sound card does not
[01:27] <stepnjump> I will try to close more processes
[01:27] <iric> how can a common sound card be unsupporteD?
[01:27] <testuser123> stepnjump: close all related apps
[01:27] <True_Friend> Hi folks i had changed (after upgrading to Fesity not my self it was system done) my hard drive configuration from /dev/hdax to /dev/sdax i so lost also the mounted drives then i managed to change /dev/hdax with /dev/sdax and now i have mounted volume but it does not show it by default i mean i some how made it to show media drives on desktop but now it is not doing this i cannot find an option now also surprizingly is there some thing wrong???
[01:27] <stepnjump> ok
[01:27] <intelikey> "close more processes"  ?????    not sudo killall5   ?
[01:27] <stepnjump> brb test
[01:28] <matt__> is anyone having problems with amarok and mp3 playback in Fisty?
[01:28] <stepnjump> Testuser123: Here is what I got this time:
[01:28] <stepnjump> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:28] <stepnjump> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:28] <stepnjump> ooop
[01:28] <stepnjump> sorry
[01:28] <stepnjump> Reading package lists... Done
[01:28] <stepnjump> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:28] <stepnjump> adept is already the newest version.
[01:28] <stepnjump> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:28] <testuser123> True_Friend: right click on the desktop - properties.. perhaps you deactivated the symbols..
[01:28] <intelikey>   https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems     http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[01:28] <Skyblast> matt__: Is it freezing at the Install MP3 Support dialog box?
[01:29] <stepnjump> Should I do a apt-get install remove?
[01:29] <stepnjump> and then reinstall?
[01:29] <testuser123> stepnjump: ok, so my previous tipp should work.. try it again..
[01:29] <stepnjump> kk
[01:29] <testuser123> stepnjump: sudo adept_,anager
[01:29] <matt__> skyblast, I am having the same issue, have you tried installing the codecs from the Medibuntu website?
[01:29] <joseph> are there propritary drivers for kubuntu?
[01:29] <True_Friend> testuser: there are no properties in KDE but configure Desktop
[01:29] <Skyblast> Nope
[01:29] <stepnjump> sudo adept_manager
[01:29] <stepnjump> sudo: adept_manager: command not found
[01:29] <Skyblast> Try this though, this worked for me
[01:29] <testuser123> True_Friend: try that..
[01:29] <True_Friend> I tried to do from there but could not got them manually
[01:30] <EightiesK> testuser123: from what i understand apt get is not recomended.
[01:30] <Skyblast> matt__: sudo apt-get install libxine-ffmpeg
[01:30] <stepnjump> I'm really unlucky hey?
[01:30] <Skyblast> The dialog box would never work for me
[01:30] <joseph> are there propritary video drivers for kubuntu?
[01:30] <testuser123> stepnjump: where do you enter those commands?
[01:30] <stepnjump> In the bash shell
[01:30] <testuser123> EightiesK: i think its old and stable enough.. never had problems with it..
[01:30] <stepnjump> Should I key it in the RUN?
[01:31] <stepnjump> ALT-F2?
[01:31] <wolferine> whose involved (the channel) with creating the Ubuntu Guide?
[01:31] <intelikey> !nv | joseph
[01:31] <ubotu> joseph: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:31] <testuser123> stepnjump: no - shell is all right
[01:31] <stepnjump> mmmm
[01:31] <joseph> ty
[01:31] <stepnjump> My system is inhabited by a ghost!
[01:31] <testuser123> stepnjump: i dont think so - there is surely one little mistake
[01:31] <intelikey> stepnjump mine too !
[01:32] <EightiesK> testuser123: so how would i do apt-get?
[01:32] <stepnjump> Oh good... Intelikey. I thought I was seing things lol
[01:32] <testuser123> stepnjump: type pwd to see where you are
[01:32] <stepnjump> It's a really nice distro though
[01:32] <stepnjump> in my HOME directory Test
[01:32] <stepnjump> Where should I be?
[01:33] <testuser123> EightiesK: first, replace edgy with feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" - then, WAIT
[01:33] <testuser123> :)
[01:33] <testuser123> stepnjump: hmm.. strange
[01:34] <intelikey> and hope and pray
[01:34] <stepnjump> Should I reinstall?
[01:34] <intelikey> and get really mad.
[01:34] <testuser123> stepnjump: u can, but this takes a lot of time..
[01:34] <intelikey> and come back in here and cuss at * about it
[01:34] <intelikey> and get banned
[01:34] <testuser123> stepnjump: otherwise - with each install you'll learn a little bit more ;)
[01:35] <testuser123> stepnjump: did you upgrade or fresh install?
[01:35] <Ashex> testuser123, are you telling them how to do an upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[01:35] <testuser123> Ashex: yes - at least i'm telling how I would do it..
[01:35] <intelikey>   https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems     http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[01:36] <Ashex> Oh sweet jesus
[01:36] <Ashex> dont' do that
[01:36] <Ashex> !upgrade
[01:36] <testuser123> Ashex: why not?
[01:36] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:36] <matt__> thank you Skyblast i installed libxine1-ffmpeg that worked
[01:36] <Ashex> You're just asking to break the system
[01:36] <stepnjump> Testuser no it's a fresh install
[01:36] <stepnjump> Maybe I should download updates though
[01:36] <Skyblast> matt__: Awesome :) Glad it worked for someone
[01:36] <stepnjump> I don't know how
[01:36] <testuser123> Ashex: why?
[01:36] <EightiesK>  Ashex how would you upgrade?
[01:36] <stepnjump> When i installed, it tried to offer me to download updates but then I didn't have the internet hooked up
[01:36] <testuser123> Ashex: that way i updated a LOT of debian machines..
[01:36] <stepnjump> BTW Testuser123, the version of adept is:
[01:36] <stepnjump> adept -v
[01:36] <stepnjump> Qt: 3.3.6
[01:36] <stepnjump> KDE: 3.5.2
[01:36] <testuser123> stepnjump: that doesnt matter..
[01:37] <Ashex> This is the proper way to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:37] <CUM_quesa> what is the term for whatever password you are supposed to use with sudo?
[01:37] <Ashex> testuser123, I know that's how you do it
[01:37] <Ashex> !worksforme
[01:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:37] <CUM_quesa> if it's not 'root password'
[01:37] <Ashex> But it's an easy way to break things, ubuntu has it's own method of doing upgrades
[01:37] <Skyblast> apt-get dist-upgrade is not recommended, but honestly, it sounds like an upgrade to Feisty is a crapshoot no matter how you do it
[01:37] <stepnjump> Which directory is the adept function installed in? Maybe I should check to see if the adept_manager is there?
[01:38] <Ashex> just following the official ubuntu guide to upgrading
[01:38] <testuser123> stepnjump: which adept_manager
[01:38] <intelikey> the page says  " gksu "update-manager -c " "
[01:38] <testuser123> stepnjump: should tell you normaly
[01:38] <stepnjump> Cool command. Thanks!
[01:38] <intelikey> Ashex have they worked any of the bugs out of that sense the release ?
[01:38] <EightiesK> Ashex: i can't get it to work right
[01:39] <the_hammer> is it just me or does the X11 in the finnal differ from the 1 in the beta?
[01:39] <Ashex> intelikey, not quite, but from what I've heard it works better then changing the repos
[01:39] <EightiesK> Ashex: my release still says 6.10
[01:39] <intelikey> Ashex k.
[01:40] <Ashex> EightiesK, scroll down to the protion for Kubuntu users
[01:40] <bart_17> hello...
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> who all plays fb here ?
[01:40] <stepnjump> Test 123... when I do a 'which adept_manager', it prompts me to the directory. Then when I go there, here is what I find:
[01:40] <stepnjump> /usr/bin$ ls adept*
[01:40] <stepnjump> adept  adept_batch  adept_installer  adept_notifier  adept_updater
[01:40] <stepnjump> It's not there!
[01:40] <intelikey> Ashex imo feisty needed more testing before release.   dapper went a lot smoother than feisty
[01:40] <testuser123> short question too you all - i'm just interessted - where are you all from? :)
[01:40] <stepnjump> Strange!
[01:40] <bart_17> has anybody installed fiesty on an asus a6r??
[01:40] <stepnjump> I'm in Missouri
[01:40] <Ashex> stepnjump, sudo apt-get install adept_manager
[01:40] <seidojohn> Chicago, Illinois
[01:41] <Ashex> That's bizarre
[01:41] <stepnjump> Ok thanks ashex, I'll give it a try
[01:41] <Ashex> adept_manager /should/ be installed by default
[01:41] <testuser123> Ashex: is adept_manager not installed by default on kubuntu?
[01:41] <stepnjump> Ashex:
[01:41] <stepnjump> Reading package lists... Done
[01:41] <stepnjump> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:41] <stepnjump> E: Couldn't find package adept_manager
[01:42] <stepnjump> I'm the KING of Bizares!
[01:42] <testuser123> stepnjump: there is sth really strange on your system
[01:42] <testuser123> stepnjump: you have a fresh install in front of you?
[01:42] <KingOfBiz> That's my new nick! lol
[01:42] <KingOfBiz> LOL I know
[01:42] <EightiesK> Ashex: i did but it doesn't make sence to me.
[01:42] <KingOfBiz> The instructions don't even look right
[01:43] <testuser123> seidojohn: thanks.. no one else answers me :(
[01:43] <KingOfBiz> I get different windows in adept than what's shown
[01:43] <tcstool> Hi everyone, I"m having a variety of issues since upgrading, was hoping you guys could tell me whether these have been addressed or know some fixes
[01:43] <Ashex> testuser123, what part confuses you?
[01:43] <the_hammer> i seem to have better luck installing the beta and getting all the updates then i do installing the finnal
[01:43] <the_hammer> cant undersatnd why tho
[01:43] <the_hammer> :(
[01:44] <wolferine> hey the_hammer how the prairies, hot today?
[01:44] <testuser123> Ashex:  i'm not confused.. i thought adept_manager is installed by default.. and i asked where you guys are from.. no one answered that..
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a fat32 partition
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> mounted at /media/hdc2
[01:44] <the_hammer> not to bad little windy and kinda cool
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> and I want to change the permissions and group on one folder in that drive
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> that's within /media/hdc2
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> but the system won't let me
[01:44] <Hail_Spacecake> and I assume it's because it's a mounted volume
[01:44] <Ashex> testuser123, hit alt+f2 and run this command: kdesu adept_manager
[01:44] <Ashex> that should launch adept manager
[01:45] <Hail_Spacecake> the current owner/group is root/root
[01:45] <wolferine> ah, was 17 out here on the West Coast
[01:45] <Hail_Spacecake> but I'm trying to change it with sudo chgrp
[01:45] <intelikey> note to anyone who can edit the wiki.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <<< mentions both kubuntu and ubuntu  but the  {gksu "update-manager -c"}   should also reflect that.   gksu is not a kubuntu command so people that don't know will assume that that app is not working and try the later mentioned methood
[01:45] <KingOfBiz> No it's me who's doing this Ashex
[01:45] <Hail_Spacecake> and it still says I have insufficient permissions
[01:45] <the_hammer> this is interesting the 7.04 comes in a i386 dvd?
[01:45] <intelikey> Ashex   ^
[01:45] <EightiesK> Ashex^^
[01:45] <KingOfBiz> ALT-F2 kdesu... nothing happens
[01:45] <Ashex> I'll take a look at that
[01:45] <testuser123> Ashex: i have no problem at all - i'm here for fun.. :) KingOfBiz has some problems i don't understand
[01:45] <wolferine> the_hammer, hehe
[01:45] <Ashex> Ah
[01:45] <Ashex> heh
[01:45] <KingOfBiz> Even tried sudo kdesu from ALT-F2
[01:45] <testuser123> ;)
[01:45] <KingOfBiz> Nothing
[01:46] <the_hammer> whats the difference between the i386 7.04 cd and the 7.04 dvd i386?
[01:46] <KingOfBiz> Yeah thanks a lot for your help testuser123
[01:46] <KingOfBiz> You are great
[01:46] <wolferine> the DVD is bigger :)
[01:46] <intelikey> KingOfBiz can't sudo form alt+f2
[01:46] <the_hammer> lol
[01:46] <KingOfBiz> oh ok
[01:46] <Ashex> intelikey, that guide is for upgrading to edgy, not fesity
[01:46] <KingOfBiz> I'm learning as I go
[01:47] <KingOfBiz> What do you think testuser if I reinstalled?
[01:47] <testuser123> KingOfBiz: did you reboot after install? Perhaps your path-vars are not ok? could you post "echo $PATH" ?
[01:47] <wolferine> the_hammer, the DVD has alot more on it, the CD is used for a "basic" install
[01:47] <EightiesK> Ashex: do u know?
[01:47] <KingOfBiz> No path it seems
[01:47] <KingOfBiz> It echoed a blank line
[01:47] <the_hammer> so the dvd i wont need half as many updates then right?
[01:47] <KingOfBiz> Yes I rebooted many times
[01:47] <Ashex> hmm
[01:47] <KingOfBiz> I installed kubuntu 3 days ago
[01:47] <Dumahen>  i have a big problem my pc freezes while mounting root file system what should i do ?
[01:48] <Ashex> EightiesK, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:48] <wolferine> updates, well, it will keep all the packages local
[01:48] <wolferine> so you wont have to dl them
[01:48] <testuser123> KingOfBiz: a blank line?
[01:48] <EightiesK> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <Ashex> And a quick question that's kinda stupid, are you running KDE?
[01:48] <KingOfBiz> Yep a blank line
[01:48] <tcstool> All right, I'm going to throw these issues up, if anyone has feedback let me know
[01:48] <Dumahen> please help me :(:(:
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> echo $paths
[01:49] <tcstool> 1.  Since upgrading, krdc crashes after establishing connection
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> What is wrong Dumahen
[01:49] <testuser123> KingOfBiz: echo $PATH
[01:49] <Dumahen>  i have a big problem my pc freezes while mounting root file system what should i do ?
[01:49] <|lostbyte|> Dumahen, not very helpful. More info..
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> ooops
[01:49] <tcstool> 2. wireless PCMCIA cards using the hostAP drivers reset after 60 seconds of use
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> Ok I guess PATH had to be in caps
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> hold on
[01:49] <tcstool> 3. Removing a PCMCIA card and reinsterting it freezes the machine
[01:49] <KingOfBiz> Here is the echo:
[01:49] <tcstool> Those are my problems, if anyone could help, I really appreciate it.  Thank you!
[01:50] <Dumahen> i added a new hdd to my computer i can see new hdd on bios but now pc freezes while ubuntu loading
[01:50] <KingOfBiz> tcstool, I'm new to linux but to me sounds like a driver issue. But I'll let the gurus answer that one for you.
[01:50] <Dumahen> waiting for mount file system !!!!
[01:50] <KingOfBizare> .
[01:51] <KingOfBizzzz> .
[01:51] <tcstool> KingofBiz: I definitely agree.  Just not sure what would have changed in the upgrade.
[01:51] <Dumahen> so ?
[01:51] <intelikey> Ashex ok.   convoluted links   i went there streight from   the !upgrade  infonode     guess i just hit the wrong heading in the page...
[01:51] <Epidemic> hey guys, quick question.... there's a cd iso, and then there's a dvd iso... what's the difference between the two? I can't seem to find anything that says it...
[01:51] <Ashex> hehe
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> Dumahen, make sure your ubuntu partiton is still on the same cabel property it wwas on.
[01:52] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: your path is "."?
[01:52] <Ashex> yeah, it's kinda messy
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> Dumahen, like if it was primary, so it has to be now also.
[01:52] <Dumahen> i tried it too now i remove new hdd but it still freezes :(:(:(
[01:52] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: i reconmend you to reinstall :)
[01:52] <KingOfBizzzz> I was afraid you might say that testuser123
[01:52] <KingOfBizzzz> :)
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> Dumahen, ok, go into your bios and see if the change too effect.
[01:52] <Skyblast> Dumahen: Did you move the cable of the drive ubuntu was on?
[01:52] <KingOfBizzzz> That's fine
[01:53] <testuser123> try that..
[01:53] <testuser123> echo PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[01:53] <Dumahen> no of course pc was powered off...
[01:53] <testuser123> to fix your path var
[01:53] <intelikey> Ashex so info for upgrading to feisty is this page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades  ?
[01:53] <Ashex> yup
[01:54] <KingOfBizzzz> So I don't loose my work that I already have done (Cuz I'm converting to Linux from XP for good), If I backup in a separate partition that I create, will the new install erase it?
[01:54] <EightiesK> Ashex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17331/
[01:54] <Skyblast> KingOfBizzzz: Not unless you tell it to do so
[01:54] <intelikey> that's even worse.
[01:54] <Skyblast> Just don't check format in the Install and you'll be okay
[01:54] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: *g* - as Skyblast says.. normally not
[01:54] <Dumahen> |lostbyte| i changed master and slave is it impotant ?
[01:55] <Skyblast> Dumahen: VERY
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> Dumahen, veryy !
[01:55] <KingOfBizzzz> Ok
[01:55] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: don't del your win partition..
[01:55] <KingOfBizzzz> thanks
[01:55] <Dumahen> ok i will try it ...
[01:55] <Dumahen> stay online plz brb
[01:55] <Skyblast> put it back and I bet grub will be revived :)
[01:55] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: may i ask you - where r u from? country
[01:55] <KingOfBizzzz> Still COMMAND NOT FOUND
[01:55] <EightiesK> Ashex: ???
[01:55] <KingOfBizzzz> US
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> I'm Canadian (French) but I live in the US now
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> Missouri for now
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> Why?
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> Is my english weird?
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> lol
[01:56] <Ashex> EightiesK, gimme a second
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> Must be an accent thing
[01:56] <KingOfBizzzz> Can't seem to be able to get rid of it (accent)
[01:56] <testuser123> i'm just interessted.. no not at all - mine is worse.. i bet :)
[01:57] <Hail_Spacecake> so no one knows how to fix my problem?
[01:57] <Ashex> EightiesK, I'm a little baffled on why you lack adept_manager
[01:57] <KingOfBizzzz> Let me guess? Are you German?
[01:57] <KingOfBizzzz> Or Swiss?
[01:57] <testuser123> just asked myself if there a any others from my region at 2am in a linux-chat ;)
[01:57] <Ashex> EightiesK, can you tell me what you get when you do apt-cache search adept
[01:57] <Ashex> put it in pastebin
[01:57] <intelikey>    This document provides notes on upgrading to Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:57] <intelikey>    from a version of Ubuntu released before Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft).
[01:57] <KingOfBizzzz> Guys thank you very much, my wife will divorce me if I don't go now
[01:57] <EightiesK> Ashex: i have adept it just didn't upgrade.
[01:57] <mike> is it possible to get Internet Explorer on Kubuntu?
[01:57] <KingOfBizzzz> So thanks again Testuser for everything
[01:57] <Ashex> hmm
[01:57] <testuser123> KingOfBizzzz: why do you think that? ;)
[01:58] <npurciful> I am having problems executing shell scripts from usb removable drive. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:58] <Hail_Spacecake> mike: maybe with wine
[01:58] <Hail_Spacecake> maybe
[01:58] <Hail_Spacecake> but why would you want to?
[01:58] <mike> wine?
[01:58] <jaevel> _4strO: sorry i dropped out yesterday.. im dl'ing a new iso now...
[01:58] <KingOfBizzzz> Just something you said earlier made me thing that
[01:58] <Dumahen> |lostbyte| the cables ?? does it important too ?
[01:58] <KingOfBizzzz> I forget what it was
[01:58] <Hail_Spacecake> wine lets you run windows executables on linux
[01:58] <mike> Because Firefox closes unexpectantly, and Konqueror wont let me send messages to anyone on Myspace
[01:58] <testuser123> german is right.. but my ip says it - i know :)
[01:58] <Dumahen> primary ide and secondary ide ???
[01:58] <Ashex> EightiesK, so there is no version upgrade button?
[01:58] <Hail_Spacecake> but it's not perfect
[01:58] <EightiesK> nope
[01:58] <Ashex> and your system is up to date
[01:58] <KingOfBizzzz> Ok, got to run. Talk to all of you guys a little later. 73
[01:59] <mike> How do i get wine?
[01:59] <Skyblast> Hail_Spacecake: I think the reason it's not allowing you to change permissions to certain pieces, as it is a fat partition. FAT partitions have no user access control in Windows, let alone Linux. I bet it's just going to use whatever you mount it with
[01:59] <testuser123> bye
[01:59] <KingOfBizzzz> bye
[01:59] <Hail_Spacecake> Skyblast: I thought the permission system was a function of hte OS, not the filesystem
[02:00] <Ashex> EightiesK, since adept maanger doesn't want to acknowledge that there's a new version
[02:00] <Ashex> I suppose we'll have to go with that first method of editing your sources.list file
[02:00] <Ashex> EightiesK, run this command:   sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <Skyblast> hmm
[02:01] <mike> Hail_Spacecake: How do i get wine?
[02:01] <brad_> any one care to answer a noob question?
[02:01] <Dumahen> Skyblast ?? primary and secondary ide cable r important to ?
[02:01] <Hail_Spacecake> mike: symantec
[02:01] <Hail_Spacecake> if it's not already installed on the system
[02:01] <testuser123> Ashex: this poor guy.. sed for a beginer ;)
[02:01] <mike> does it cost money?
[02:01] <Ashex> EightiesK, I'll message you the rest of the commands to run after that
[02:01] <Hail_Spacecake> nope
[02:01] <Tm_T> Ashex: next time include backupping to that kind of commands ;)
[02:01] <Skyblast> Dumahen: Yes
[02:01] <Ashex> testuser123, yeah, I really hate using this method
[02:01] <Ashex> hehe
[02:01] <testuser123> ;)
[02:01] <intelikey> man that's far worse than i thought.  there is all kinds of "you can't do this or that"   and "make sure blah is installed first"  in the only page that seems to say anything useful about upgrading.   if i was a new linux user, no way would i attempt up'ing to feisty.
[02:01] <Dumahen> Skyblast oww my god... it still freezes :(:(:(
[02:02] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't need to have just that folder in the particular group
[02:02] <Hail_Spacecake> if I need to chgrp the whole drive as a block, that's okay
[02:02] <Tm_T> intelikey: but you are new linux user
[02:02] <Hail_Spacecake> actually, wait, no
[02:02] <crackhead_25_> how do i translate a bin to an iso???
[02:02] <Hail_Spacecake> I have porn on that drive. need separate groups :)
[02:02] <Hail_Spacecake> so is there a way around the FAT32 thing?
[02:02] <Skyblast> Dumahen: Just make sure it's whatever it was before the new HDD, master on the primary or whatever it was
[02:02] <intelikey> and just because the page says it can't be done.  i think i may upgrade from dapper to feisty in one step.
[02:03] <wolferine> what do I need to do to unplug a monitor, just ctrl-alt-backspace to exit X?
[02:03] <Dumahen> Skyblast : i m sure, it is correct now :(
[02:03] <wolferine> then plug it back in, then log back in?
[02:03] <eljefe> i'd just unplug it...
[02:03] <intelikey> no make that hoary to feisty.   why not make a statement!
[02:03] <wolferine> eljefe, your a noob then :)
[02:03] <Ashex> hehe
[02:03] <dave_mc> hey what do i need to do to get flash working on my amd64 system
[02:04] <crackhead_25_> anyone? how do i translate a bin to iso??
[02:04] <eljefe> wolferine: not too much, but you really think it makes a difference?
[02:04] <Ashex> I may update the wiki a bit with proper instructions later
[02:04] <wolferine> eljefe, yes
[02:04] <Ashex> It's kinda been irkin' me lately how disconnected it has become
[02:04] <wolferine> dave_mc, check the ubuntu guide
[02:04] <testuser123> intelikey: i dont think, that this is possible without a lot of problems
[02:04] <mike> anyone know how to install Opera Web Browser?
[02:04] <Ashex> sudo apt-get install opera
[02:04] <Skyblast> Dumahen: Is there any text on the screen at all when it freezes?
[02:04] <intelikey> Ashex please do.    it really needs.
[02:04] <Ashex> !opera > mike
[02:04] <dave_mc> oh the one says to splice in drivers from the "install_flash_player_9" installer and patch in nspluginwrapper?
[02:05] <wolferine> anyone else, how do I unplug my monitor, safely
[02:05] <eljefe> crackhead_25_: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/13949
[02:05] <debianland> (#G010E686M1) lol you funny cartoons
[02:05] <Dumahen> Skyblast when i wait so long time it said me that "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell"
[02:05] <intelikey> testuser123 thinking is worth only slightly less than saying  :)
[02:05] <sound_fx> Hello, I upgraded to fiesty, and now Knetworkmanager does not display wireless as an option, any sugestions?
[02:05] <dave_mc> doesnt work lol
[02:05] <utnubuk> hi
[02:05] <debianland> (#G7::E;10M1) hi
[02:05] <debianland> (#G=10E=10M1) wanna dance
[02:05] <utnubuk> lol
[02:05] <eljefe> wolferine: just curious, what do you expect it will do?  i am sur if you kill X that's your safest bet
[02:05] <Skyblast> Dumahen: And you are sure it's plugged into the primary controller and the hard drive's jumpers are set to Master
[02:05] <utnubuk> !wine
[02:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:05] <Dumahen> yea i m ...
[02:06] <Skyblast> hmmm
[02:06] <Skyblast> I'm at a loss then
[02:06] <mike> Reading state information... Done
[02:06] <dave_mc> so if the wiki for flash dont work for amd64 what to do enxt
[02:06] <Raven301> How do you change the background on the main window in konqueror?
[02:06] <dave_mc> next
[02:06] <mike> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:06] <wolferine> eljefe, so your agreeing with my original statement?
[02:06] <Dumahen> Skyblast i will check it once more time for u ;)
[02:06] <mike> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:06] <mike> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:06] <mike> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:06] <mike> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[02:06] <eljefe> wolferine: not really! lol... but i've had plenty of success with it
[02:06] <mike> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[02:06] <mike> that package should be filed.
[02:06] <mike> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[02:06] <Tm_T> !paste | mike
[02:06] <ubotu> mike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:06] <mike> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:06] <mike>   opera: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed
[02:06] <mike>          Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.2) but 1:4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is to be installed
[02:06] <mike>          Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8really3.3.7) but 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[02:06] <mike>          Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.2) but 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is to be installed
[02:06] <mike> E: Broken packages
[04:18] (itnerd/#kubuntu) How do I use the sniffer for linux
[04:18] (TheDebugger/#kubuntu) stanley: then try with kdesu
[04:18] (Fathefner/#kubuntu) i have a kwifimanger question
[04:18] <TheDebugger> stanley: I never used kdm theme manager :/
[04:18] <stanley> thas another program??
[04:18] <stanley> yeeaa??
[04:18] <seidojohn> Okay, so I had the right idea... :)
[04:18] <asnoman> Anyone get Kubuntu going with NVraid :/
[04:18] <seidojohn> stanley: It's the same as the way I told you to do.
[04:18] <Fathefner> how can u tell if ur connected to the wifi network
[04:19] <jtt> !sniffer
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sniffer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <seidojohn> except use kdesu instead of sudo
[04:19] <jtt> !ethereal
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <stanley> ok
[04:19] <dwidmann> asnoman: I've done it before
[04:19] <jtt> !info ethereal
[04:19] <TheDebugger> !wireshark
[04:19] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <dwidmann> pain. in. the. rear.
[04:19] <asnoman> dwidmann: You got it going :D?
[04:19] <LabThug_hm> wiki.kubuntu.com is still loading, so I'll go ahead and ask here.  Upon upgrading to Feisty, I lost my "switch user" menu item.  Considering this computer is utilized by my entire family, I need it.  What do I have to do to get it back?
[04:19] <jtt> !wireshark |itnerd
[04:19] <dwidmann> asnoman: if we're indeed talking about FakeRAID, then yes.
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <dsmith_> fiesty looks like edgy
[04:20] <jtt> !ethreeal |itnerd
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethreeal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <TheDebugger> !info wireshark | itnerd
[04:20] <ubotu> itnerd: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[04:20] <dwidmann> dsmith_: most of the changes happened under-the-hood
[04:20] <asnoman> dwidman: Its most likely a fakeRAID. I really don't know the different between fakeraid and non-fake.
[04:20] <jtt> thank you i must be loosing my mind
[04:20] <dsmith_> dwidmann: ahhhh
[04:20] <stanley> new problem guys
[04:20] <dwidmann> asnoman: if it's not a PCI card hardware raid controller, it's probably fakeraid
[04:21] <seidojohn> stanley: What's up?
[04:21] <jager> what importand cchanges were mane dwidmann?
[04:21] <asnoman> dwidmann: Its onboard, so I assume its fakeraid.  But you know what assuming does :D
[04:21] <kaeli> Also, where can I find the instructions on how to get nvidia drivers to work in Kubuntu again?  Kinda brandead after fighting with machines at work and now trying to fix my own
[04:21] <dsmith_> fakeraid = NO RAID
[04:21] <shawn34> I'm close to getting remote desktop working for my mother-in-law, i can remote in but i can't see anything, the mouse pointer is an X and the background is balck and white... any help please?
[04:21] <dwidmann> jager: far as I know, a bunch of the kubuntu-specific apps were ported to qt4
[04:21] <stanley> when i type kdesu in konsole is says "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167"
[04:21] <dwidmann> dsmith_: not really
[04:21] <jtt> !nvidia |kaeli
[04:21] <ubotu> kaeli: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:21] <dwidmann> dsmith_: I've used it before
[04:21] <LabThug_hm> Has anyone else lost "switch user" when upgrading to feisty?
[04:21] <itnerd> I dont know how to use wireshark, how do I go about confuring it
[04:21] <dsmith_> dwidmann: I know, but I don't trust it
[04:22] <dwidmann> dsmith_: why not?
[04:22] <seidojohn> stanley: Do you have KDE theme manager in your K menu?
[04:22] <flaccid> !baddevice > stanley
[04:22] <jager> stanley: you might try running kcontrol
[04:22] <dsmith_> i've had issues with it in the past
[04:22] <Fathefner> how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:22] <stanley> nope
[04:22] <dsmith_> so its always been 3ware for Linux
[04:22] <dwidmann> dsmith_: issues involving? corruption? data loss? other problems?
[04:22] <stanley> no seidojohn
[04:22] <itnerd> how do I get and configure the KDE desktop
[04:23] <jtt> itnerd  apt-get install wireshark
[04:23] <flaccid> itnerd: you don't have kubuntu installed?
[04:23] <dwidmann> dsmith_: I don't need the redundancy, so I just use LVM
[04:23] <asnoman> dwidmann: Any websites I can check out :D
[04:23] <jager> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <itnerd> nope just ubuntu
[04:23] <itnerd> I am new to linux
[04:23] <dwidmann> asnoman: one sec
[04:23] <flaccid> jager advises the goods
[04:23] <CygnusX1> Hello.  Is anyone familiar with Ubuntu > add Kubuntu: now, after logging into KDM, screen blanks momentarily and then returns to login prompt.  Switching to GDM allows login to KDE (but, shutdown/restart controls missing from KDE)
[04:24] <asnoman> dwidmann: Thanks a lot :D
[04:24] <Fathefner> how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:24] <shawn34> I'm close to getting remote desktop working for my mother-in-law, i can remote in but i can't see anything, the mouse pointer is an X and the background is balck and white... any help please?
[04:25] <LabThug> Does anyone have an idea when wiki.kubuntu.com will be back online?
[04:25] <Fathefner> can anyone tell how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:26] <dwidmann> is it me or is the kubuntu wiki having trouble?
[04:27] <LabThug> dwidmann: it's not just you.  It has loaded for me since I came in
[04:27] <bibek> where is the default GNOME or KDE preference saved
[04:27] <dwidmann> LabThug: has or hasn't?
[04:27] <LabThug> :-$  has*n't*
[04:27] <bibek> i meant im using xdm and there is no desktop switching preference
[04:28] <Fathefner> can anyone tell how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:28] <Fathefner> plz
[04:28] <Fathefner> with sugar on top
[04:28] <seidojohn> stanley: have you tried KControl?
[04:28] <dwidmann> asnoman: well, it looks like the wiki is down atm, but when it's back up there's a great doc called the "FakeRaidHowto" (it's that, exactly). It can help walk you through it.
[04:29] <stanley> wel i'm thinkin about installin it
[04:29] <jtt> stanley, kcontrol  no caps
[04:29] <stanley> cus i don't have it
[04:29] <Fathefner> can anyone tell how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:29] <seidojohn> stanley: it should already be installed.
[04:29] <Fathefner> plz with sugar on top
[04:29] <stanley> ok
[04:29] <asnoman> dwidmann: Thanks for your time.  whats the URL for the wiki?
[04:29] <jtt> !wiki
[04:29] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[04:29] <seidojohn> stanley: in "Appearance & Themes" there is a "Theme Manager"
[04:30] <dwidmann> asnoman, just type "uwiki FakeRaidHowto" in Konqueror
[04:30] <stanley> yea
[04:30] <Fathefner> can anyone tell how do u tell if kwifimanger connected
[04:30] <seidojohn> stanley: It's working for you?
[04:30] <Fathefner> plz with sugar on top
[04:30] <stanley> well it opens
[04:31] <Fathefner> kwifimanger question
[04:31] <stanley> but there is simply no administator mode button
[04:31] <Fathefner> can anyone help
[04:31] <flaccid> !repeat
[04:31] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:31] <seidojohn> but can you change the theme anyway?
[04:31] <nai_> hey. can anybody make knetworkmanager work with wep encription?
[04:31] <debianland> (#G>10E@10M1) http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debianhelplogcl0.jpg
[04:31] <Fathefner> ive been asking that qust for awhile
[04:31] <asnoman> dwidmann: its not going to work atm is it?
[04:31] <dwidmann> asnoman: probably not
[04:32] <dwidmann> another handy search thing in konqueror is "uwikis" (uwiki search)
[04:32] <CygnusX1> Is it okay to ask the same question every 12 hours, 17 minutes, and 31 seconds?
[04:32] <dwidmann> gg = google, wiki = wikipedia, all kinds of nice ones
[04:32] <dwidmann> or wait, not sure about wiki = wikipedia, I might have changed that one
[04:33] <flaccid> Fathefner: dont expect every question to be answered.
[04:33] <dwidmann> wikipedia = wp
[04:33] <asnoman> Anyone know around the cheapest I could expect to pay for a fairly normal 3ware raid card?
[04:33] <seidojohn> Fathefner: maybe someone's looking up the answer right now...
[04:33] <Fathefner> im srry
[04:33] <bibek> hi guys do u know how to configure xdm to load kde instead of gnome?
[04:34] <LabThug> wow, wiki.ubuntu is down bugs.launchpad is also down.  What has happened to the 'net?
[04:34] <seidojohn> stanley: Did it let you change the theme?
[04:35] <dwidmann> LabThug: horrible timing, right after release it had to happen eh?
[04:36] <stanley> nope
[04:36] <seidojohn> dang
[04:36] <dwidmann> bibek: someone in #ubuntu or #xubuntu might know more about xdm
[04:36] <jtt> !xdm
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <jtt> !info xdm |bibek
[04:36] <ubotu> bibek: xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-2 (feisty), package size 165 kB, installed size 764 kB
[04:37] <bibek> jtt: hey thanks
[04:37] <bibek> jtt: i've installed it but when it loads it doesn't give the option to switch between kde and gnome :(
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[04:38] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:38] <jtt> bibek, i am not sure it does have to ask someone more X centric
[04:38] <dwidmann> bibek: I've never used it, but  it's bound to have a configuration file of some sort, maybe you could find it with "dpkg -L xdm"
[04:38] <jtt> bibek, perhaps  flaccid knows
[04:39] <dwidmann> or "sudo updatedb && locate xdm"
[04:40] <srhegde> whois srhegde
[04:40] <seidojohn> stanley: sorry man, I'm out of ideas. I'll google around for a little bit more, but I don't think I know how to help you.
[04:40] <jtt> flaccid, how about it can you help bibek with the XDM question
[04:40] <bibek> flaccid: can u help?
[04:41] <stanley> ok thanxc alot siedojohn
[04:41] <flaccid> what is the question again
[04:41] <bibek> flaccid: :) howd i choose kde instead of gnome when im using xdm
[04:41] <bibek> flaccid: xdm doens't have a session chooser option :(
[04:42] <dwidmann> stanley, I've got an idea
[04:42] <stanley> ok shoot
[04:42] <flaccid> i've never used xdm
[04:42] <flaccid> have you read the documentation for xdm?
[04:43] <dwidmann> try logging out and switching to VT1 (ctrl + alt +f1), log in as you, "sudo -s" to switch to root, then "startx"
[04:43] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[04:43] <dwidmann> see if it lets you startx as root, it might solve the problem
[04:43] <flaccid> startx is not going to solve anything
[04:43] <bibek> nop not yet will do that
[04:43] <flaccid> it just starts x
[04:43] <flaccid> always read doco first.
[04:43] <dwidmann> flaccid: starting x as root has solved kdesuing problems for me before
[04:43] <bibek> well where does gdm or kdm store the default Desktop Env ?
[04:44] <ForgeAus> um somewhere in /etc/ I guess
[04:44] <flaccid> dwidmann: thats a bad practice. never log into X as root
[04:44] <dwidmann> granted, it was off a fresh, minimal install
[04:44] <aaroncampbell> If I want to be able to handle java content on the web (like this: https://zend.webex.com/mc0703l/webcomponents/docshow/docshow.do?javaEnable=true&siteurl=zend ) is there a package I can install?  Or do I need to get some sort of installer?
[04:44] <flaccid> !repeat > bibek
[04:44] <flaccid> bibek: instead of repeating. read the doco.
[04:45] <dwidmann> flaccid: I only did it for as long as it took to log in, did nothing afterwards, logged out. Problem solved. It was weird.
[04:45] <ForgeAus> I'm sure I've seen it before
[04:45] <bibek> flaccid: :) i've been searching for it, just to know if somebody knows the answer
[04:45] <flaccid> dwidmann: so somehow that made kdesu work for normal users?
[04:45] <ForgeAus> !java
[04:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:45] <dwidmann> yes.
[04:45] <flaccid> bibek: if someone knew the answer they would of answered your question the first time
[04:46] <asnoman> dwidmann: Well hopefully that wiki will be up tommorow, Im having no luck atm finding a mirror or a repost somewhere.  Thanks again
[04:46] <dwidmann> asnoman: no problem
[04:46] <bibek> flaccid: ok, let me search some more, i think im close
[04:46] <ForgeAus> so hows feisty sofar?
[04:46] <ForgeAus> I'm still trying to get myself a copy
[04:46] <ForgeAus> (had internet problems tho)
[04:47] <flaccid> bibek: its pretty basic
[04:47] <asnoman> dwidmann:Fakeraidhowto correct?
[04:47] <dwidmann> asnoman:  I think it's case sensitive, FakeRaidHowto
[04:48] <asnoman> dwidman:okay, got you...  :D pen and paper time lol
[04:48] <dwidmann> asnoman: that's the only reason I keep post its around :D
[04:49] <asnoman> okay guys im off for the night. Thanks again guys, :D:D:D:D
[04:49] <flaccid> bibek: you get xdm to run startkde on login.
[04:50] <bibek> well since there is no ~/.xsession file
[04:50] <bibek> im creating it first
[04:51] <flaccid> ah well
[04:51] <flaccid> no more help for bibk
[04:52] <flaccid> i'll bbs
[04:52] <jtt> flaccid, just interested what is you physical location
[04:52] <lovloss> im not even playing now. Why cant i get to the live desktop of this freaking feisty cd?!
[04:52] <mg> "apache2-ssl-certificate is nowhere to be found once apache2 is installed as of feisty"
[04:53] <lovloss> It could at least give me an error message but no, the screen just loses connection!
[04:53] <lovloss> *fume*
[04:55] <Toyd> http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debiantoonsconcepthb1.jpg
[04:56] <lovloss>  Im trying to install feisty, but every time it starts up i have to hit f4 and select a resolution or as soon as i start it up, instead of a loading screen i get my monitor going out. The green light on it turns yellow and it sits there, black as night :P Any resolution setting fixes that, but as soon as its done the loading screen, it crashes AGAIN trying to load up the live desktop
[04:57] <root__> lovloss: I had a similer error, what kind of monitor do you have?
[04:57] <asnoman> * sorry, fixed my name :D
[04:57] <lovloss> asnoman: I dunno, an old compaq. It shouldnt matter, ive installed linuxes on this monitor before
[04:58] <lovloss> edgy for exxample
[04:58] <ark[1] > hi, am using Feisty here. i'm trying to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord' in Konsole, but nothing shows. the command is accepted but i'm not shown the dialog
[04:58] <asnoman> lovloss: strange.  my widescreen monitor, didn't like the default resolution, When I changed it, it worked find.
[04:58] <aaroncampbell> If I want to be able to handle java content on the web (like this: https://zend.webex.com/mc0703l/webcomponents/docshow/docshow.do?javaEnable=true&siteurl=zend ) is there a package I can install?  Or do I need to get some sort of installer?
[04:59] <lovloss> asnoman: I tried all sorts of resolutions. Nothin.
[04:59] <lovloss> it just goes out like a light
[04:59] <lovloss> note, this is an AMD64 system with a SATA HD
[04:59] <jtt> ark[1] , try   sudo  strace dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord  to see what it does,  read  strace manual page first!!!
[04:59] <asnoman> mines a 939 amd 3700+ works fine :/
[05:00] <asnoman> I just need to change the resolution
[05:00] <asnoman> and the live cd boots, takes a while. but it boots
[05:00] <lovloss> i dont get it. at all
[05:00] <asnoman> Its what im on atm.
[05:00] <sachrioja> hi
[05:00] <asnoman> It happend w/ 6.10 or w/e My friend just said he upgraded to fiesty and was working for him, so I decided to try that
[05:01] <asnoman> I forget the name of the person who helped me w/ the howto.  I found it,  And its far to long for me.  Im going to delete the "Fake Raid" when I have a chance to get to my friends server to backup my data.
[05:02] <asnoman> dwidmann: this is the guide right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[05:04] <DrekxeR> hi, people
[05:05] <jtt> DrekxeR, hello
[05:05] <DrekxeR> hi , jtt
[05:05] <sepeck> software raid is still raid
[05:06] <debianland> (#G010EA10M1) http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debiantoonsconcepthb1.jpg
[05:07] <lovloss> seems my problem is that im using an ATI x700 series
[05:07] <debianland> (#G210E010M1) orly
[05:08] <jtt> !easysource |jtt
[05:09] <DrekxeR> can anyone here would provide me a good link for tutorials for installing beryl in kubuntu 7.04, i am new to kubuntu
[05:09] <debianland> (#G610E210M1) http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=debiantoonsconcepthb1.jpg
[05:10] <ark[1] > hmm, another problem: anyone having guidance-power-manger.py crashing? i'm running dual monitors on nvidia 7600
[05:10] <sagematt> Help please, I'm installing Feisty from the Live CD. I have two drives /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. I'm on the final step of the install wizard, and I have properly made my linux partitions on /dev/sdb. I don't want GRUB installed on /dev/sda (as it's default), but on /dev/sdb instead, but in the GRUB device selection it shows up (hd0). I'm guessing /dev/sdb is (hd1) Y/N?
[05:12] <sagematt> or can I type "/dev/sdb" as the GRUB device instead of "(hd0)"? Y/N (noting that I do want to install it on /dev/sdb)
[05:13] <bordy_away> Anyone have any good knowledge on the windows migration assistant?
[05:13] <dhorn> can anyone help me with a diff file?
[05:14] <sagematt> dhorn: ?
[05:14] <dhorn> sagematt: I'm trying to apply a diff but kompare won't allow me to save the updated files and 'patch' simply hangs when I try to apply (it works with --dry-run though)
[05:15] <dhorn> sagematt: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=117145563500995&w=2 <-- that diff to be exact
[05:16] <sagematt> how are you running patch? ex: patch -p0 < /path/to/diff
[05:16] <jtt> sagematt, cant remember if you are allowed to change hd0  to hd1  but if you only have two hd's then yes  hd1  would be the /dev/sdb drive
[05:16] <sagematt> jtt: ok, thanks a lot
[05:16] <konam> someone could help me with kopete
[05:16] <sagematt> jtt: can't I just type /dev/sdb instead just to be sure?
[05:16] <konam> i close the tools bar
[05:16] <dhorn> sagematt: tried it that way and with -u but neither worked
[05:17] <jtt> sagematt, no  grub works off  hdN  at that point
[05:17] <konam> or menu bar, and i dont remember the hotkeys to get it back.....
[05:17] <jarn> I just upgraded to Feisty and now my mp3s won't play.
[05:17] <JoeyAdams> mp3s are a proprietary format, that's why they're not supported by default
[05:17] <konam> someone could open kopete and tell me
[05:17] <sagematt> jarn: install the codecs again?
[05:18] <JoeyAdams> I'm guessing you can apt-get something to install mp3 codecs
[05:18] <jarn> Yeah, but I forget what they're called.
[05:18] <sagematt> jtt: alright, it's hd1 then. hope grub doesn't screw up my windows boot
[05:19] <jtt> sagematt, even if it does it should be easy to get back
[05:19] <JoeyAdams> jarn> Open Adept and search for mp3
[05:19] <sagematt> jtt: I have yet to learn how, I normally unplug my windoze hd XD
[05:19] <JoeyAdams> I guess it's mpeglib
[05:19] <dhorn> sagematt: any suggestions?
[05:19] <jarn> JoeyAdams: Is it w32codecs?
[05:19] <sagematt> (while installing linux)
[05:19] <JoeyAdams> Open k3b and see what it says
[05:20] <JoeyAdams> It might be, but I think w32codecs refers to avi, wmv, and wma
[05:20] <jtt> sagematt, will you can use grub for both and probably should it is very powerful
[05:20] <sagematt> dhorn: gee, I dunno, I'm running from the LiveCD right now, about to install Feisty. Maybe when I get to install?
[05:20] <dhorn> sagematt: sure, if you think of anything, feel free to let me know :)  thx
[05:20] <dhorn> Anyone else have any other suggestions?
[05:21] <sagematt> jtt: true, but I'd rather not. Let's see what happens.
[05:21] <sagematt> jtt: thanks for your assistance
[05:21] <jtt> sagematt, anytime i am around
[05:21] <JoeyAdams> Ctrl+M shows the menubar
[05:22] <jarn> JoeyAdams: It says I'm supposed to install the MAD mp3 decoder but doesn't say how.
[05:22] <JoeyAdams> Or not...
[05:22] <JoeyAdams> I guess open adept and search for mad, then
[05:22] <dhorn> sagematt: one more thing, have you ever done a dpkg-buildpackage for kdebase?
[05:22] <sagematt> JoeyAdams: fire up adept and search for mad
[05:22] <sagematt> dhorn: I think so, but my memory is rather foggy atm
[05:23] <dhorn> sagematt: haha, alright, thanks for the help, gn
[05:23] <sagematt> np, anytime I can
[05:23] <JoeyAdams> libmad0
[05:23] <bordy> Has any successfully moved media files (mp3s and movies) over from windows using the migration assistant?
[05:23] <jtt> thinks it wants  libmad0  package
[05:23] <JoeyAdams> But that might not be what you need for other programs
[05:23] <BluesKaj> looks the kubuntu sites and repos are really busy tonite ...very slow response
[05:23] <sagematt> bordy: Isn't it easier just to copy them?
[05:24] <bordy> its alot of them, and I plan to reformat the whole comp so I get rid of the windows partition
[05:24] <sagematt> btw, is ppoeconf still the default for adsl ppoe connections or is there already a better gui?
[05:24] <JoeyAdams> If I've spent a while in the Live CD, and I want to save all my settings for next session, is there a way to do that?
[05:24] <JoeyAdams> (Kubuntu Feisty, that is)
[05:25] <igi> can anyone direct me to some tutorial for smb client setup?
[05:25] <JoeyAdams> Or at least KDE settings
[05:25] <bordy> joeyadams: not that I know of, but maybe someone will prove me wrong
[05:25] <jtt> JoeyAdams, seems like it is  casper something google it
[05:26] <BenPA> hi all ... is there an easy way to show the trash can on the desktop of kubuntu?
[05:26] <ForgeAus> yes
[05:26] <BenPA> how?
[05:26] <ForgeAus> create a link to a url trash://
[05:26] <jtt> JoeyAdams, google for casper-cow  it should have the save info
[05:27] <ForgeAus> (and change the icon)
[05:27] <jarn> JoeyAdams: I already have libmad0 installed...
[05:27] <JoeyAdams> Oh, thanks
[05:27] <ForgeAus> ... if you want it to look pretty of course
[05:27] <JoeyAdams> then try libmpeg and stuff like that
[05:27] <BenPA> not sure how to do that forgeaus
[05:27] <bordy> ForgeAus: just write "trash://"?
[05:27] <JoeyAdams> I read this:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-live-cd-save-data-desktop-information-on-usb-device.html
[05:27] <jarn> !mp3
[05:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <jtt> JoeyAdams, believe that is it
[05:28] <sagematt> btw, is ppoeconf still the default for adsl ppoe connections or is there already a better gui?
[05:28] <JoeyAdams> Is it safe to e2label a drive that has important data in it?
[05:28] <JoeyAdams> Or will it write over everything in it before backing stuff up?
[05:28] <BenPA> write it where?
[05:28] <ForgeAus> bordy yeah
[05:28] <bordy> forgeAus doesnt seem to be working for me
[05:28] <jtt> JoeyAdams, e2label doesnt perform any backup as far as i know save your data before hand
[05:29] <igi> can anyone direct me to some tutorial for smb client setup?
[05:29] <sagematt> igi: google smb client setup?
[05:30] <ForgeAus> did it do anything?
[05:30] <jtt> JoeyAdams, the procedure says that you have to first format as  ext2 or ext3 first that will destroy any data on the stick
[05:30] <jtt> stick=usb drive  etc.
[05:30] <bordy> forgeaus: says malformatted
[05:30] <JoeyAdams> Suppose it's already in ext3 format?
[05:30] <ForgeAus> (rightclick on desktop.. link to url ... location="trash:/" - not sure if it needs ==
[05:30] <ForgeAus> erm sorry //
[05:30] <jtt> JoeyAdams, fine it is jsut labeling it so  casper can find it
[05:31] <ForgeAus> malformatted? weird I've had that before, forgot
[05:31] <JoeyAdams> I saw something say it should be labeled casper-rw instead of casper-cow.  Which one do I use??
[05:31] <ForgeAus> um damn can't try it in XP but I have done it before...
[05:32] <jtt> JoeyAdams, the original article said casper-cow perhaps they changed it let me look at the article you posted hang on
[05:32] <ForgeAus> I think it uses trash:// as a kio-slave... the icon should come up blank then you need to go into properties of it to put the trash look for it and voila... trashcan on desktop...
[05:32] <ForgeAus> (named trash.desktop)
[05:33] <ForgeAus> I'm fairly certain thats how I did it
[05:33] <ForgeAus> or something quite similar
[05:33] <BenPA> ok, I got the blank but not sure how to put the icon in
[05:34] <flaccid> jtt: hobart, australia
[05:34] <ForgeAus> yeah rightclick the icon and go to properties
[05:34] <jtt> JoeyAdams, casper-rw was for  release before 6.10 edgy, if you are feisty or edgy  label is casper-cow
[05:34] <ForgeAus> then click on the blank icon itself the big visual in the box of the blank icon
[05:34] <bordy> link won't even open when I use trash://
[05:34] <bordy> says malformed
[05:34] <ForgeAus> and select the trashcan
[05:34] <JoeyAdams> Oh, okay
[05:34] <jtt> flaccid, ah, ok mate thanks just curious thanks
[05:34] <ForgeAus> bordy I'm not certain why but I've had that error message before... I did fix it too but can't remember how exactly
[05:35] <ForgeAus> try trash:/ instead of using both //'s
[05:35] <bordy> won't let you hit OK when theres only one /
[05:35] <ForgeAus> (if it still says malformed both ways then sorry I cna't think of anything else to help)
[05:35] <ForgeAus> ok... well // is more likely right anyhow...
[05:36] <ForgeAus> um ... bordy is there anywhere you can browse to that shows up trash as an icon in konqi?
[05:36] <JoeyAdams> I did an apt-get install lvm earler, and now anytime I run an lvm-related program, such as vgscan, I get:
[05:36] <JoeyAdams> No program "vgscan" found for your current version of LVM
[05:36] <jarn> Oh, this makes me so mad.
[05:36] <GuHHH> hello, whats the mirc app for kubuntu? cant remember the name
[05:36] <sagematt> uhhhh... konversation?
[05:36] <jarn> Err....
[05:36] <ForgeAus> if you can rightclick the trash icon in konqi and drag it to desktop and link it there
[05:36] <jarn> You're in IRC right now.
[05:36] <bordy> ForgeAus: comes up as trash:/
[05:36] <ForgeAus> that should also work
[05:36] <jarn> So you've found it.
[05:36] <ForgeAus> konversation is one
[05:36] <ForgeAus> theres ksirc
[05:36] <ForgeAus> xchat
[05:37] <ForgeAus> many
[05:37] <ForgeAus> you can even use mirc under wine
[05:37] <jarn> GuHHH: You're in IRC right now, so you've found it.
[05:37] <sagematt> irssi
[05:37] <lee_> after installing beryl, my LCD stops working and only my 2nd CRT monitor works. Any ideas?
[05:37] <lee_> (this is on a dual output)
[05:37] <GuHHH> konsersation, thats the one i was looking for, thanks
[05:37] <ForgeAus> irssi is ncurses but yeah its still an irc client
[05:37] <ForgeAus> kopete even does irc
[05:37] <ForgeAus> bordy trash:/ is correct th en
[05:37] <bordy> ForgeAus, got it. Now who was originally looking for it?
[05:38] <JoeyAdams> Could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, lee_ ?  (Don't paste it all here, put it in a pastebin please ;) )
[05:38] <GuHHH> someone can tell me why i cant find the libapache-mod-php5? just for apache2?
[05:38] <bordy> yeah, I figured it out. Made me give it a name
[05:38] <bordy> lol
[05:38] <ForgeAus> yeah well I couldn't remember if there was a name box on the dialog so I didn't mention it
[05:39] <bordy> Welp, that wasn't what I came here for, but at least its somethin to help somebody else :)
[05:39] <ForgeAus> I kinda thought you'd have probably known that bit...
[05:39] <bordy> yeah, I should have
[05:39] <ForgeAus> what did you come for?
[05:39] <bordy> its always the lil things you ignore (so you have a good reason to feel stupid)
[05:39] <GuHHH> jarn: im on gaim, gaim sucks for irc
[05:39] <bordy> oh, migration assistant questions... trying to get rid of windows and stop dual-booting finally
[05:39] <sagematt> arrrgh installing linux still gives me stomach ache, I always fear of all my windoze partitions all over my drives...
[05:39] <lee_> uh.. pastebin?
[05:39] <ForgeAus> ok...
[05:40] <jtt> GuHHH, did you install libapache....php5
[05:40] <ForgeAus> so you want to just reformat the xp partition?
[05:40] <ForgeAus> you can install/reinstall grub easily enough
[05:40] <JoeyAdams> www.pastebin.ca < That one works well.
[05:40] <GuHHH> jtt: i tried, cant find on repository, just for apache 2, im using 1.3
[05:40] <ForgeAus> grrr I wish I remembered the little things theres a nice url for recovery after installation (if grub didn't get its menu.lst right)...
[05:40] <JoeyAdams> lee_ :  Pastebin is a web application that allows people to post long text, such as source code, that can be viewed by other people.
[05:40] <bordy> forgeaus: yeah, I want to reformat the whole thing to make kubuntu have my whole comp. But I want my mp3s and movies to come over and don't have an external
[05:41] <jtt> GuHHH, oops, sorry misread, however, i bet 1.3 used  php4 not 5
[05:41] <ForgeAus> tells you how to install grub either with or without dualboot intact...
[05:41] <GuHHH> it uses php5 too... i ve it on debian
[05:41] <jtt> GuHHH, ok cant help you ther
[05:41] <ForgeAus> um bordy, you need to copy/backup/move your mp3's/movies first unless you want to use convertfs but I wouldn't suggest the latter way
[05:42] <GuHHH> thanks
[05:42] <lee_> lol, even pastebin gets an error.
[05:42] <bordy> Yeah, I figured as much. Guess I gotta borrow an external to move it all over
[05:42] <ForgeAus> either by putting them on your Kubuntu partition, or other media (like DVD for example)
[05:42] <bordy> well the kubuntu partition is going too, gonna remove partitioning and just do it fresh
[05:42] <bordy> seems easier
[05:42] <sagematt> wtf... I am installing kubuntu from live cd, and it was about to end (90-something percent, 1 min left), and now it comes with "installing language packages (20 mins left)" @_@
[05:42] <ForgeAus> then you are free to reformat your ntfs partition (using QTparted, or if you have it gparted or partition magic or whatever favourite partitioning tool you like)...
[05:43] <lee_> http://pastebin.ca/455329 theres the pastebin.
[05:45] <lee_> there's also an xorg_1 that looks like a better config
[05:45] <sagematt> is ntfs writing still experimental on ntfs--3g?
[05:46] <BenPA> it worked however I am not sure how to get rid of the trash can on the desktop ... why is this so hard lol
[05:47] <jarn> !source-o-matic
[05:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:47] <lee_> any thoughts adams?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> BenPA you want to get rid of it now?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> just rightclick and delete it!
[05:48] <JoeyAdams> lee_:  I don't know much about configuring multi-screen stuff.  There might be a utility.  Does the rest of beryl run fine in the extremely small screen you're looking at?
[05:48] <lee_> haha, yeah it runs perfectly
[05:49] <JoeyAdams> Is it really low resolution?
[05:49] <lee_> except for the fact of it being extremely small T_T
[05:49] <lee_> yeah, 320x240.
[05:49] <lee_> it sucks.
[05:49] <JoeyAdams> Wow
[05:49] <ForgeAus> (also for the kicker - ie the panel where the kmenu is - you add/remove the trash icon by rightclicking and add/remove applet...)
[05:49] <JoeyAdams> Should be 640x480
[05:49] <lee_> it might be that
[05:49] <lee_> feels like 320 compared to my usual 1280.
[05:49] <JoeyAdams> All I can say is, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first, then start trying to tweak it
[05:49] <ForgeAus> hehehe its kinda strange sending the trash:/ to trash:/ tho
[05:49] <lee_> how do i tweak it?
[05:50] <lee_> it says it's readonly.
[05:50] <ForgeAus> (its actually sending trash.desktop to trash:/ but still...)
[05:50] <JoeyAdams> Use superuser access.
[05:50] <lee_> yeah... but i'm a noob :-/
[05:50] <harihare> hi all
[05:50] <lee_> i know basic sudo stuff.
[05:50] <JoeyAdams> kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <JoeyAdams> (After you've backed up the original)
[05:51] <harihare> any one : how to restart sound deamon on ubuntu
[05:51] <JoeyAdams> When you're there, you can try to change modes "640x480@60" to something less ridiculous.
[05:51] <lee_> kdesu also made an error..
[05:51] <JoeyAdams> It does...  ;)
[05:51] <JoeyAdams> Don't run it as root
[05:51] <JoeyAdams> run kdesu as normal user.
[05:52] <ubuntu__> Hey
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> harihare, there should be an option in system settings
[05:52] <ubuntu__> Does anyone know how I can recover a windows MBR from linux ?
[05:52] <ubuntu__> is there a tool to d it
[05:52] <ubuntu__> do it
[05:52] <lee_> http://pastebin.ca/455329
[05:52] <lee_> err sorry not that.
[05:53] <lee_> i ran kdesu normally, still an error.
[05:55] <excitatory> what is the command the kicker media applet uses to 'safely remove'.. it seems like it could be pumount, however as of feisty, it displays a nice progress bar, so is it something else?
[05:56] <BenPA> forge I put it on the task bar ... want to get rid of it on the desktop
[05:56] <JoeyAdams> i ran kdesu normally, still an error. [05:56] <JoeyAdams> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> excitatory, probably pumount piped to some progress bar applet i would guess
[05:57] <JoeyAdams> Or, you can sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf ; kwrite ~/xorg.conf ; sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:57] <excitatory> hitmanWilly: yea, i would love to know, since i want to add that command to amarok for the generic media device disconnect command.
[05:57] <ForgeAus> getting rid of it on the desktop should be easy, rightclick the desktop trash (trash.desktop) icon and send it to trash, or just drag the desktop icon to the taskbar trash
[05:58] <^Ben> I need to recover a windows MBR using a linux tool. Is there any ?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> excitatory, don't know for sure...that was just an educated guess
[05:58] <ForgeAus> Ben I dobut it
[05:58] <kalorin> ^Ben: why not use a windows tool?
[05:58] <kalorin> fdisk /mbr
[05:58] <kalorin> done
[05:58] <ForgeAus> fixmbr on an XP disk will do it (under recovery console)
[05:58] <^Ben> Because I don't have a floppy drive, and my windows cds arent here
[05:58] <kalorin> boot tot he windows cd in recovery mode
[05:59] <ForgeAus> kalorin? wow thats simple :)
[05:59] <kalorin> ForgeAus: they built some good tools to fix stuff that breaks alot :)
[05:59] <^Ben> In fact my computer didn't even come with a windows cd. It was a factory toshiba one, you're supposed to run this app and it creates the cd. But I never did it D:
[05:59] <kalorin> ForgeAus: too bad they don't put those folks on other probelms
[05:59] <ForgeAus> hehe
[05:59] <BenPA> Forge didn't work
[05:59] <kalorin> ^Ben: well i thnk you can fdisk /mbr from a linux boot disk, not sure what it'll do though
[06:00] <harihare> hitmanwilly : Hey I tried it did not work... any other solutions
[06:00] <kalorin> might rewrite the boot sector for you
[06:00] <ForgeAus> BenPA what did happen?
[06:00] <ForgeAus> any error, or just nothing?
[06:00] <kalorin> ugh
[06:00] <kalorin> I'm getting sick :(
[06:00] <^Ben> I don't think the win32 version of fdisk will work on a linux boot disk
[06:00] <kalorin> just perfect
[06:00] <ForgeAus> thats not good
[06:00] <^Ben> in fact it wont :)
[06:00] <ForgeAus> linux has its own fdisk
[06:00] <kalorin> ^Ben: boot to a linux cd, get to a shell prompt fdisk it
[06:01] <kalorin> and restore the boot record, there's an option for that
[06:01] <BenPA> nothing
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> harihare, well, the kde sound daemon is known as artsd, try killing it and restarting it manually from cmd line
[06:01] <ForgeAus> and a few other types of *disk (I think theres like gdisk, sfdisk, etc... )
[06:01] <guhhh> hey, does anyone knows the php5 module to apache 1.3? please?
[06:01] <kalorin> I think you just fdisk it and set the partition bootable and write it
[06:01] <kalorin> dont' change anything otherwise
[06:01] <kalorin> just unset and set the bootable flag and write it
[06:02] <kalorin> might work
[06:02] <^Ben> nah you havce to write a new MBR
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> harihare, why exactly are you trying to restart the sound system?
[06:02] <ForgeAus> wow I thought a Wizard of Oz game would be easy.. this one seems to be taking forever
[06:02] <guhhh> :(
[06:02] <kalorin> i have a dd image of a win98 bootable floppy
[06:03] <kalorin> you can pull bootable floppies for XP and so on as well
[06:03] <kalorin> might even be able to find an .iso image of an XP util disk or something
[06:03] <kalorin> google around
[06:03] <dsmith_>  Microsoft admits Vista failure...Vista hailed as ME2 http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39087
[06:03] <sepeck> fdisk /mbr maybe
[06:03] <ForgeAus> yeah thats a good idea, download the bootable floppies from Microsoft, they give you recovery console, just takes a few disks thats all
[06:03] <kalorin> vista isn't a failure
[06:04] <ForgeAus> dsmith, took their time about it
[06:04] <kalorin> vista is the product that finally pushed me hard enought o move to linux!
[06:04] <kalorin> itw as a complete success
[06:04] <ForgeAus> rofl kalorin
[06:04] <kalorin> seriously
[06:04] <dsmith_> yes! I know you were ebing sarcastic
[06:04] <dsmith_> :)
[06:04] <dsmith_> *being
[06:04] <ForgeAus> microsoft lost track of the home user long long ago
[06:04] <ForgeAus> although XP is nice imho...
[06:04] <^Ben> yeah but I have no floppy drive. I'll try find a cd image and burn it.
[06:04] <dsmith_> XP blows...
[06:04] <kalorin> man i need to put a different keyboard on this machine, this one is mushy and is slowing me down and causing errors in my typing
[06:04] <dsmith_> when I am on a win machine
[06:05] <kalorin> I didn't mind XP so bad
[06:05] <^Ben> damnit. All this time I could be coding or playing C&C3 D:
[06:05] <^Ben> ;)
[06:05] <dsmith_> I am like, it cant do this, it cant do that
[06:05] <dsmith_> C&C 3 rocks
[06:05] <dsmith_> I have played the demo
[06:05] <kalorin> dsmith: linux, I have ot do vmware to do a lot of things I have to be able to do
[06:05] <dsmith_> yes vmware bootleg xp images
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> heh
[06:05] <dsmith_> hehe
[06:05] <kalorin> so linux hosting an XP image = solution for me
[06:05] <dsmith_> same
[06:06] <kalorin> just for photoshop and a few other little things
[06:06] <chemicalvamp> emulation tends to be slow
[06:06] <chemicalvamp> in my experience
[06:06] <dsmith_> I can run windoze on my laptop via Citrix as well
[06:06] <ForgeAus> wow the language that article uses is very cutting!
[06:07] <ForgeAus> I mean stuff like: That means no Me II DRM infection lock in, no mass migration to the newer Office obfuscated and patented file formats, and worse yet, people might utter the W word.
[06:07] <dsmith_> ME2 Broken Edition
[06:07] <dsmith_> lol
[06:07] <dsmith_> haaahha
[06:07] <ForgeAus> (by ME2 it referrs to Vista, and the way it calls DRM an infection :)... very cutting)
[06:07] <^Ben> yeah dsmith, I just brought it, deleted my ubuntu partition to install it, then rebooted to play it. Forgot grub was on the partiton I deleted. Haven't even got to play it yet@!!
[06:07] <StepNjump> Does anyone else here have problems with ADEPT?
[06:07] <harihare> hitmanwilly : actually after coming form hibernate my sound is not working. I as to be rebooted to get back the sound...
[06:07] <ForgeAus> I'm no supporter of DRM btw...
[06:07] <npurciful> I am having problems executing shell scripts from usb removable drive. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:07] <ForgeAus> what kind of problem with ADept?
[06:07] <harihare> hitmanwilly : so thought if the sound service is restarted it may work
[06:08] <ForgeAus> sorry my typing to fast for my shif key ... perhaps I should have done it as AdePT  instead? :)
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> harihare, hmm, dont really have any experience with that...
[06:08] <dsmith_> ^Ben: Enjoy, I have yet to purchase it yet..
[06:08] <npurciful> I am running feisty
[06:08] <npurciful> it worked with edgy
[06:08] <StepNjump>  What is Citrix?
[06:09] <ForgeAus> npu, how do you like feisty sofar?
[06:09] <ForgeAus> I'm just d/ling it now...
[06:09] <harihare> after restaring artsd also it is not working
[06:09] <ForgeAus> 117 of 600+mb sofar
[06:09] <ForgeAus> going to test it in vmware first
[06:09] <chemicalvamp> ForgeAus its gonna be slow ;)
[06:09] <escorpio26> hola buenas
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, do you have execute permissions on the drive?
[06:09] <npurciful> fiesty is awesome
[06:09] <ForgeAus> chemical yeah sure is
[06:10] <ForgeAus> npu, what do you like about it over edgy?...
[06:10] <escorpio26> alguien habla espaol
[06:10] <chemicalvamp> escorpio26 hola mi amigo
[06:10] <escorpio26> hola
[06:10] <chemicalvamp> !es
[06:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <kalorin> well, I have to think if they'd get serious about things they could sell movies for $5 in a jewel case without all the silly packaging and make it up in volume, then if they want to do an deluxe collectors edition whatever, they could add all the other disks no one watches and sell it for more but I think they'd find that no one cares really
[06:10] <npurciful> I just had this one hickup really
[06:10] <escorpio26> si lo se
[06:10] <escorpio26> pero se puede hablar en espaol aqui ?
[06:10] <kalorin> make up lower prices in volume and folks would buy rather than pirate
[06:10] <ForgeAus> sorry npu I didn't catch what your hiccup was...
[06:11] <chemicalvamp> un poco
[06:11] <ForgeAus> (I kinda just tuned into it when you mentioned feisty)
[06:11] <ForgeAus> and I'm too lazy to backscroll for details lol
[06:11] <escorpio26> de que pais eres
[06:11] <ForgeAus> is that french?
[06:11] <ForgeAus> !fr
[06:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:11] <chemicalvamp> spanish
[06:11] <escorpio26> quiero saber cuales son los pasos para instalar un msn en linux
[06:11] <ForgeAus> ok then
[06:11] <ForgeAus> !sp
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> well, books don't have any DRM, are completely open source, and you don't hear about mass book piracy...i wonder why?
[06:11] <escorpio26> spanish
[06:11] <ForgeAus> hmm es?
[06:11] <chemicalvamp> he wants to install msn
[06:12] <ForgeAus> !es
[06:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <chemicalvamp> he knows ForgeAus
[06:12] <ForgeAus> oh ok
[06:12] <escorpio26> ok thanks
[06:12] <ForgeAus> if thats the case then why's he talking Spanish in here?
[06:12] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: because there's no cheap way to make an exact copy like digital stuff
[06:12] <chemicalvamp> !gaim | escorpio26
[06:12] <ubotu> escorpio26: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:13] <ForgeAus> theres also amsn and another one (forgot the name of it) for MSN only
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, its called a xerox machine :) or ocr for mass distribution
[06:13] <chemicalvamp> why would you want JUST msn
[06:13] <escorpio26> icq no msn mesenger
[06:13] <escorpio26> messenger
[06:13] <ForgeAus> but most of them should show up in Adept depending on what repository you have/havn't got
[06:13] <BluesKaj> passport
[06:13] <chemicalvamp> escorpio26 si amigo
[06:13] <escorpio26> mis amigos en mi pais solo usan ese msn
[06:13] <ForgeAus> ICQ?... then I suggest kopete...
[06:13] <escorpio26> messenger
[06:14] <ForgeAus> but gaim (and some jabber servers with a gateway) will do it
[06:14] <chemicalvamp> ForgeAus he said he doesnt want icq
[06:14] <chemicalvamp> escorpio26 "sudo apt-get install gaim"
[06:14] <ForgeAus> so? you don't have to use the ICQ part of kopete
[06:14] <escorpio26> i dont speak english
[06:14] <ForgeAus> gaim has ICQ
[06:14] <seidojohn> stanley: did you get it to work?
[06:14] <ForgeAus> and lots of others
[06:15] <stanley> nope seidjohn
[06:15] <stanley> i'm not even gonna get all worked up over that
[06:15] <stanley> i have another prob now
[06:15] <stanley> everytime i try to play a song in amarok it kicks out
[06:15] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: really, who is going to stand and make copy after copy of the latest paperback at a xerox and give them away for free
[06:15] <chemicalvamp> escorpio26 yo estoy hablar solo un poco espaniol
[06:15] <kalorin> maybe .pdf
[06:15] <kalorin> that'd really be the only way worth doing it
[06:15] <flaccid> holy crap this coffee is hot
[06:16] <BluesKaj> !es | escorpio26
[06:16] <ubotu> escorpio26: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:16] <escorpio26> a ok gracias mira quiero instalar msn en mi pc pero el sistema operativo es linux y no lo se usar
[06:16] <escorpio26> como hago lo que el administrador dice
[06:16] <chemicalvamp> escorpio26 gaim es muy bueno
[06:17] <BluesKaj> snake eyes
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, no one, but someone could scan it in and distribute it in a digital form ie PDF
[06:17] <escorpio26> que es eso ?
[06:17] <escorpio26> de que pais eres ?
[06:17] <chemicalvamp> no comprendo
[06:17] <stanley> seidojohn: i just think tonight is a bad night for me
[06:17] <chemicalvamp> !es>escorpio26
[06:18] <kalorin> flaccid, you'd complain if it were cold too
[06:18] <bulwynkl> help - install gone bad... 6.04->7.10, answered yes to all replace config files, 'all' to mdadm - turns out probably didn't want to do that last - now using uuid instead of /dev/hda2 - changing grub over to /dev/hda2 does not help... error message - Starting up ...
[06:18] <kalorin> :)
[06:18] <bulwynkl> Loading, please wait...
[06:18] <bulwynkl> mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found.
[06:18] <bulwynkl> kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/10f5b591-e847-4203-9e51-b9e810fc9d8d) = hda5(3,5)
[06:18] <bulwynkl> kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/10f5b591-e847-4203-9e51-b9e810fc9d8d
[06:18] <bulwynkl> kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[06:18] <bulwynkl> Ubuntu 7.04 beetlejuice tty1
[06:18] <bulwynkl> beetlejuice login:
[06:18] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[06:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <flaccid> kalorin: yes i'd bitch hard
[06:18] <dave_> Can aneone help me recompile kdebase?  I'm have some issues
[06:18] <flaccid> :p
[06:18] <seidojohn> stanley: sounds like it. sorry I can't help. I hate those nights.
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, and if the end user wanted a hard copy they could print it out themselves like burning a cd
[06:18] <bulwynkl> what do I need to do to get the system working again (dual boot machine - winXP+kubuntu
[06:19] <flaccid> dave_: why do you need to re-compile it?
[06:19] <stanley> yeeeaaa
[06:19] <stanley> it's ok
[06:19] <stanley> thanx alot
[06:19] <dave_> flaccid: trying to apply a diff
[06:19] <stanley> what about this amarok thing? do u kno anything i could do?
[06:19] <seidojohn> stanley: no problem.
[06:19] <flaccid> oh ok. try #kde maybe if no luck here
[06:19] <seidojohn> stanley: I don't think I know anything about that. You say it crashes when you try to play a song?
[06:19] <dave_> flaccid: already have, no one is around :(
[06:20] <stanley> no...it just exits
[06:20] <stanley> automatically closes the program
[06:20] <seidojohn> oh, there's an option for that.
[06:20] <chemicalvamp> hmmm does itunes on windows compress files going onto the ipod?... cuz all the songs that i had on it for a loong time arent all fitting
[06:20] <seidojohn> let me see if I can find it.
[06:20] <kant> it depends
[06:20] <seidojohn> I just had it do that on purpose a couple of days ago.
[06:21] <stanley> ok
[06:21] <kant> mp3 files that you have from outside or music from itunes store?
[06:21] <stanley> also
[06:21] <stanley> it said to me that amarok is unable to play mp3s
[06:21] <stanley> or something like that
[06:21] <seidojohn> oh, I thought you meant
[06:21] <seidojohn> it played the song
[06:21] <chemicalvamp> stanley it popped up and asked if you wanted to install mp3 codec didnt it?
[06:21] <seidojohn> and then exited
[06:21] <kant> staney: you have to install an mp3 codec for that
[06:21] <flaccid> dang
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, all im saying is that people wouldn't accept DRM on other aspects of life, so why should they on digital media?
[06:22] <stanley> yepp
[06:22] <stanley> n when i clicked that...the whole os restarted
[06:22] <kant> people accept DRM because they don't know
[06:22] <kant> next next next next.....
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> stanley and it ran a adept batch update?
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> oh well thats no good\
[06:22] <stanley> nope
[06:23] <chemicalvamp> stanley try "sudo apt-get -f install" see if it does anything
[06:23] <stanley> ok
[06:23] <^Ben> argh what the hell. I can't burn a cd cause my ubuntu livecd is in there.
[06:23] <kant> it's funny to just enter channels like this and enter the five concurrent conversations in the channel xD
[06:23] <^Ben> back to square 1
[06:23] <chemicalvamp> ^Ben sucks eh ;)
[06:24] <chemicalvamp> ^Ben i transfered the ISO to my ipod, and burned it onto another box
[06:24] <kant> ^Ben: tha't why I got two optical drives (not really, but it's useful for that)
[06:24] <kalorin> the interwebthingy seems slow tonight
[06:24] <^Ben> yeah I'm on a laptop. No room for 2 optical drives.
[06:24] <kalorin> just me?
[06:24] <chemicalvamp> oh duh... *just rememberd i have a usb2.0 cd burner in the closet* >.<
[06:24] <stanley> seidojohn nothing to install download upgrade or remove
[06:25] <chemicalvamp> stanley try uninstalling amarok and reinstall it
[06:25] <stanley> ok
[06:25] <^Ben> can you boot from USB just like its a floppy ?
[06:26] <chemicalvamp> i can, but its in my bios
[06:26] <^Ben> like if I create format a usb stick from windows and make it bootable, and put fdisk on there.. that would work eh ?
[06:27] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: The file has exec enabled it worked fine in edgy.
[06:28] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: I cant even execute a script with echo in it. and it is only my portable usb drive vfat
[06:28] <bulwynkl> !kinit
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, what exactly is the error msg?
[06:29] <guhhh> hey, whats the application that makes my desktop 3d?
[06:30] <ForgeAus> beryl/compiz?
[06:30] <ForgeAus> or 3dDesktop
[06:30] <guhhh> ForgeAus: whats the best?
[06:30] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: The file has exec enabled it worked fine in edgy.
[06:31] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: I cant even execute a script with echo in it. and it is only my portable usb drive vfat
[06:31] <ForgeAus> or kde4 (when it comes out)
[06:31] <ForgeAus> best? .... compiz and beryl are merging so I heard but beryl is the one most people want/use... so I guess thats the one your after...
[06:31] <npurciful> lost my internet for a minute
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, i mean, does konsole spit out any errors at you when you try to run it
[06:32] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: i get permission denied, even with sudo
[06:32] <guhhh> ForgeAus: thanks.
[06:33] <guhhh> can anyone help-me with apache 1.3 php5 module? cant find it on repositories. damn!
[06:33] <SJrX> guhhh try apt-cache search php | grep apache
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, try prefacing it with sh ie sh ./<name of script>
[06:33] <guhhh> SJrX: i did that, can only find to apache2... :(
[06:33] <SJrX> hmmmm
[06:34] <WillLuongo> Hello, has anyone been experiencing instability in Adept after upgrading to Feisty?
[06:34] <SJrX> hold on
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, see if that spits out any errors
[06:34] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: i been using sudo ./media/PASSPORT/.passport
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, just see if prefacing it with sh gives you the same error
[06:35] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: sudo: unable to execute /media/PASSPORT/.passport: Permission denied
[06:35] <SJrX> guhhh just a warning, I'm a debian guy so I may not know everything about Ubuntu, but when I try and search for apache I don't even see apache 1.3
[06:35] <guhhh> SJrX: what about installing it from my debian cache?
[06:36] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: bash: ./: is a directory
[06:36] <guhhh> SJrX: are you on debian? libapache-mod-php5 you can find :)
[06:36] <SJrX> um... what about the multiverse or whatever ubuntu has for other repositiories
[06:36] <SJrX> I'm not on debian at the moment, but yeah I have it installed on my debian servers.
[06:36] <aaroncampbell> If I want to be able to handle java content on the web (like this: https://zend.webex.com/mc0703l/webcomponents/docshow/docshow.do?javaEnable=true&siteurl=zend ) is there a package I can install?  Or do I need to get some sort of installer?
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, sudo sh ./media/PASSPORT/.passport
[06:36] <SJrX> hmmm
[06:37] <guhhh> SJrX: what about i install it from debian package ?
[06:37] <guhhh> SJrX: what about i install it from debian package (cache) ?
[06:37] <kalorin> aaroncampbell: I'd just install java itself
[06:37] <kalorin> no package, just regular ol' java
[06:37] <kalorin> usually I install it to /usr/local/java<versions>
[06:37] <kalorin> then symlink /usr/local/java -> /usr/local/java<versions>
[06:37] <SJrX> guhhh I would think that would be fine, especially if your apache 1.3 is a debian package, however I dunno if the ubuntu communitity frowns on doing that.
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, the directory itself may not have execute permissions
[06:37] <kalorin> and I get rid of the packages of java lib's
[06:38] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: sh: Can't open ./media/PASSPORT/.passport
[06:38] <guhhh> SJrX: ok, thanks... i will try that
[06:39] <SJrX> Two questions 1) how do I change kdm's screen resolution
[06:39] <SJrX> 2) how does kubuntu handle vmware?
[06:39] <jordo23> I have tried this three times. What is the best way to install Nvidia's graphics driver in Kubuntu. Please don't send me the bot text as it points to Ubuntu's wiki.
[06:39] <SJrX> 3) does ubuntu support encrypted disks?
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, try chmoding the mountpoint dir itself for read/write/execute
[06:40] <flaccid> SJrX: 1) changing resolution in system settings or xorg.conf 2) it handles it fine. its in the repos 3) yes depends which
[06:40] <npurciful> hitmanWilly: i got it to go with "sudo sh /media/PASSPORT/.passport" but i never had to add the sh before?
[06:40] <flaccid> jordo23: that is the best way i know of
[06:40] <npurciful> thats annoying
[06:41] <chemicalvamp> whats the sudo delete command?
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> npurciful, yup, sounds like you need to chmod the dir itself
[06:41] <jordo23> flaccid: I have a fresh install of Kubuntu fiesty and this is the first thing I am doing....
[06:41] <flaccid> jordo23: ok cool
[06:41] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: remember me before with the graphics card....
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, sudo rm?
[06:41] <chemicalvamp> rm?, thanks
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, yes, whats up?
[06:41] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I reformatted completely and want to install Nvidia's driver.....what's the best way?
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, follow the edgy instructions
[06:42] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Exactly?
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, they still work in feisty
[06:42] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly that doesnt work for directories
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, rm -r
[06:43] <flaccid> jordo23: didn't i just tell you?
[06:43] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly thanks.... had hiddent trash files filling up 1/2 my ipod
[06:43] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Are there specific Kubuntu instructions, or Ubuntu wiki?
[06:43] <flaccid> jordo23: ubuntu wiki
[06:43] <ardchoille> How do I install opera? I did "sudo apt-get install opera", but it's giving me "E: Package opera has no installation candidate". I have the main, restricted, universe and multiverse repos enabled.
[06:44] <jordo23> flaccid: Ubuntu wiki tells you to use synaptic...
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, the -r option enables recursive mode, ie wipe a whole dir
[06:44] <jordo23> synaptic isn't in Kubuntu (by default)
[06:44] <flaccid> jordo23: use adept instead
[06:44] <jordo23> Flaccid: ok...this is where I ran into problems before though....trying now...
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> or just use apt
[06:44] <ForgeAus> hey flaccid :)
[06:44] <ForgeAus> you can install synaptic (or even kynaptic if you can get hold of it) into kubuntu easily enough
[06:45] <ardchoille> !opera
[06:45] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:45] <ForgeAus> but adept (or apt/aptitude/even dpkg) are easy enough to use...
[06:45] <ForgeAus> so theres really no need for it
[06:45] <ForgeAus> normally
[06:46] <jordo23> Where do you enable restricted repos in Adept though...
[06:46] <ForgeAus> your free to do so hitman...
[06:46] <flaccid> !adept
[06:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:46] <flaccid> !repos
[06:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> or dpkg too :)
[06:46] <ForgeAus> me I prefer not to exclude things, I'm an includer, and a hoarder (bad combo but well you play the cards your dealt)
[06:47] <jordo23> flaccid: Adept's manager doesn't go with these instructions anymore though...
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:48] <chemicalvamp> give me some good games to try
[06:48] <chemicalvamp> any genre
[06:48] <SJrX> within Kubuntu is there a way to set Options DontZap thru the GUI?
[06:49] <SJrX> flaccid where do I start with the disk encryption
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:49] <SJrX> sorry trying to learn the GUI way of doing things? Is there a way to setup a samba share?
[06:50] <SJrX> thru the GUI again
[06:50] <phoenixz> Could anybody tell me the basic differences between fedora and kubuntu? if possible?
[06:50] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Ok....doing that now....(did that before though...)
[06:50] <chemicalvamp> !ati>chemicalvamp
[06:50] <kalorin> phoenixz: well, fedora is a 6 or 7 cd install
[06:51] <kalorin> phoenixz: kubuntu is 1
[06:51] <phoenixz> kalorin:  that could be good or bad..
[06:51] <kalorin> phoenixz: fedora uses RPM's and kubuntu uses the debian packages .deb files
[06:51] <flaccid> jordo23: we know that.
[06:51] <phoenixz> Fedora 6 is dvd only as far as I know..
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, make sure the quotes around uname -r are ` not '
[06:51] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: done installing.....now what to be exact...
[06:51] <chemicalvamp> i hear rpms are a pain in the ass
[06:51] <kalorin> ah
[06:51] <phoenixz> kalorin: thats a good one..
[06:51] <kalorin> well 1 disk either way then
[06:51] <flaccid> SJrX: which filesystem?
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, both packages
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ?
[06:52] <kalorin> I don't see a lot of difference other than I hate fedora's RPM stuff because the dependencies are always a total pain
[06:52] <SJrX> flaccid I dunno whatever will be the fastest and support symlinks
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:52] <phoenixz> kalorin: and deb files are not?
[06:52] <flaccid> SJrX: a bit out of the scope of this channel. google is a great start.
[06:52] <kalorin> and I like flaccid here so much I decided to run kubuntu just so I could hang out wiht all these cool folks on this irc channel :)
[06:52] <flaccid> lol kalorin
[06:53] <kalorin> phoenixz: I've not had much dependency problems at all with .deb's and apt
[06:53] <phoenixz> yum should resolve the dependancy stuff anyway.. I am using fedora and never had a "dependancy hell" with yum
[06:53] <phoenixz> kalorin: Be it that yum is sslloowwww
[06:53] <jordo23> wait....when doing the linux restricted command it says it can't find packages, although nvidia-glx downloaded fine....I can ignore that right?
[06:53] <kalorin> yeah I used it before yum
[06:53] <chemicalvamp> phoenixz has a point, its a pain installing debs, nothing better then using apt-get
[06:53] <kalorin> adept isn't
[06:53] <phoenixz> kalorin: me neither with yum
[06:53] <kalorin> apt isn't
[06:53] <kalorin> I just like the feel of debian/ubuntu better to be honest
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, no, you need the restricted modules to run nvidia-glx
[06:53] <kalorin> if htat makes any sense at all
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:54] <phoenixz> but besides packages (deb vs rpm), is there any other significant difference between fedora and kubuntu?
[06:54] <chemicalvamp> ive only tried gentoo and kubuntu, i dont 'remember' there being much of a differnce, visually i mean.. i didnt have gentoo very long though
[06:54] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: should be good....restart x?
[06:55] <kalorin> fedora is redhat who is making money off linux, ubuntu isn't
[06:55] <flaccid> phoenixz: there are millions of differences
[06:55] <phoenixz> And what about gentoo yeah?!
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, no, you NEED the restricted modules
[06:55] <kalorin> gentoo is all compiled
[06:55] <flaccid> fedora is not redhat
[06:55] <kalorin> at least that's my understanding
[06:55] <phoenixz> flaccid: Significant differences..
[06:55] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: it worked the first time...I was wrong.....says they are already newest version....
[06:55] <kalorin> phoenixz: might as well go centOS if you're going to go redhat
[06:55] <phoenixz> flaccid: Fedora really is still redhat.. AFAIK ist not independant yet
[06:55] <kalorin> same as redhat EL only free
[06:55] <flaccid> phoenixz: try google and wikipedia. this chan is for kubuntu support
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, did you run nvidia-xconfig?
[06:56] <ForgeAus> what do you mean fedora isn't redhat?
[06:56] <flaccid> phoenixz: its meant to be and it physically is
[06:56] <ForgeAus> there is #linux
[06:56] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I copied and pasted the exact command from above...
[06:56] <ForgeAus> theres definitely a #mandriva so I assume theres a #fedora (or fedoracore? or something) and a #redhat too...
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the driver is set to nvidia
[06:57] <ForgeAus> although I'm not entirely sure how Mandriva and redhat are different
[06:57] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Yeah....ran the config....spit out a couple lines saving xorg.conf....looked successfull...
[06:57] <flaccid> kalorin: fedora is not the same as redhat EL!!!!
[06:57] <phoenixz> Aren't these kinds of questions also support? learning new stuff and so on.. Im not flaming, Im just curious, I have fedora, and I may want to go to kubuntu.. Yeah, I tried google, etc, but I would like some users point of view..
[06:57] <kalorin> don't forget suse
[06:57] <kalorin> flaccid: I didn't say that
[06:57] <kalorin> flaccid: I said that it came out of redhat and is supported by them
[06:57] <flaccid> yes you did kal [14:55]  <kalorin> same as redhat EL only free
[06:57] <flaccid> no you didn't
[06:57] <kalorin> centOS
[06:57] <flaccid> its pretty plain english
[06:58] <kalorin> centOS is the same as Redhat EL
[06:58] <flaccid> guys this is #kubuntu support, not #os-debate
[06:58] <flaccid> no two things are the same in this world kalorin
[06:58] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Ok....looked at the file....says Nvidia....restart?
[06:58] <kalorin> dude, seriously, you've got to get past the symantics arguments
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, give it a go
[06:58] <kalorin> same/very very similar
[06:58] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: The file also has notes about my monitor....I think that was the problem before, it didn't detect it....
[06:58] <kalorin> basically the same
[06:58] <jordo23> brb
[06:59] <flaccid> symantics?
[06:59] <flaccid> semantics has nothing to do with this
[06:59] <kalorin> sure
[07:00] <bulwynkl> upgrade stuffed.... what does this error message mean?
[07:00] <dwidmann> :D
[07:00] <kalorin> you're right I bow you to vastly superior understanding of the english language
[07:00] <dwidmann> Adding a second monitor was a piece of cake :D this is awesome
[07:00] <bulwynkl> : No resume image, doing normal boot...
[07:00] <bulwynkl> Ubuntu 7.04 beetlejuice tty1
[07:00] <bulwynkl> beetlejuice login:
[07:01] <bulwynkl> OK, try that again...
[07:01] <bulwynkl> start message
[07:01] <bulwynkl> Starting up ...
[07:01] <bulwynkl> Loading, please wait...
[07:01] <bulwynkl> mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found.
[07:01] <bulwynkl> kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/10f5b591-e847-4203-9e51-b9e810fc9d8d) = hda5(3,5)
[07:01] <bulwynkl> kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/10f5b591-e847-4203-9e51-b9e810fc9d8d
[07:01] <bulwynkl> kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[07:01] <bulwynkl> end message
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> !paste | bulwynkl
[07:01] <ubotu> bulwynkl: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, does that work?
[07:02] <PP188> o screenlets funciona com compiz?
[07:02] <PP188> sorry wrong channel
[07:02] <ark[1] > is anyone having problems w/ guidance-power-manger.py crashing when using dual monitors?
[07:02] <jordo23> HitmanWilly: Ok.....restarted X and I get an Nvidia splash screen, but this is where I run into the same problem...I can't get higher resolutions for my monitor...
[07:02] <sepeck> is it common for Adept Manager to go south in the kubuntu 7 series?
[07:03] <dave_> Can anyone help me recompile kdebase?
[07:03] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: It's like it doesn't detect the right monitor, and I don't know which model number it is....is there a probe I can run or something?
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, ok, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <dwidmann> jordo23: use nvidia-settings to do it, the nvidia-settings program is awesome
[07:03] <jordo23> which first?
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, or use that
[07:04] <dwidmann> It took me the whole of 20 seconds to add a second monitor on, and configure it to use the proper 1680x1050 res
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, sorry, im kinda old school :) nvidia-settings should work
[07:05] <kalorin> dwidmann: what'd you get? I'm thinking about getting a pair of 20-22" LCD's
[07:05] <jordo23> nvidia settings says it's an E770....what now?
[07:05] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: Yes, I did break down and get the monitor, it got here today ... only thing that ticked me off is that it didn't even come with a DVI cable (my card doesn't support VGA)
[07:05] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: It says that in xorg.conf too.....but still no resolutions...
[07:05] <ubuntu> can someone tell me how to switch the os from using 1 sound card to another (2 installed)
[07:05] <dwidmann> jordo23: there should be a resolution and refresh rate option in X Server Display Configuration
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann, sorry, forgot to warn you :)
[07:06] <dwidmann> kalorin: I got a Viewsonic Q22FB
[07:06] <jordo23> Booyah!   Got it....works now....nvidia-settings works.....thanks guys...
[07:06] <kalorin> nice
[07:06] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: so then I had to make the trip to Bestbuy and get the DVI cable for $20, which hurt
[07:07] <dwidmann> kalorin: makes my samsung syncmaster 930bf (19" 5:4) look tiny
[07:07] <bulwynkl> thanks hitmanwilly -error message at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17351/
[07:07] <dwidmann> jordo23: no problem
[07:07] <Ayabara> I'm trying to connect to work with Cisco VPN. I have installed it (seemingly without problems), but when I try to connect to the profile it gives up for no good reason. the dump is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17350/ . Do I need to install/configure something in feisty for vpn to work?
[07:08] <jordo23> How do you change the clock back to 12 hour mode...I always forget this.. :)
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, nvidia-settings is an awesome tool, tho, like i said, im old school :)
[07:08] <apus> hitmanWilly: how do I tell progrmas like amarok what sound card to use
[07:08] <apus> aka switch default audio device
[07:09] <pplant> anyone else here having problems with audio in (k)ubuntu?
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> apus, that i don't know...
[07:09] <dwidmann> apus, should be in its sound configuration section, but it'll be a pain
[07:09] <chemicalvamp> pplant like ALL audio or just in media
[07:09] <apus> dwidmann: explain?
[07:10] <apus> both cards show up in kmix
[07:10] <dwidmann> You'll probalby have to write one of those more complicated asound.rc files
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> everything working great here with Feisty :)
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> just the damn kicker panel is freaking out when trying to run certain applets
[07:10] <apus> why? its just using the wrong one, the onboard
[07:10] <pplant> chemical, all audio. in ubuntu AND kubuntu. it cuts out, especially when beryl is running.
[07:10] <dwidmann> The workings of which confuse me, better off asking about asoundrc in #alsa, or maybe #amarok if you're lucky
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> I can't have  separate desktops :(
[07:11] <sdlnxgk> I just have  standard settings and sound works great out of the box
[07:11] <sdlnxgk> ok time to get ready for work
[07:11] <sdlnxgk> hope you get sound working
[07:11] <jordo23> !codec
[07:11] <sdlnxgk> Night PeEps
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:11] <unix_infidel> is it possible to do a command line install from the kubuntu live cd?
[07:11] <wolferine> scanners, whose good with a scanner setup?
[07:11] <chemicalvamp> pplant is it cuz of the cpu load in xgl?
[07:12] <pplant> sigh. it's not a multimedia issue. it's ALL audio. I am wondering if it might be a kernel issue
[07:12] <wolferine> i have xsane setup already
[07:12] <wolferine> just a matter of setting it up for the app
[07:12] <pplant> it seems to happen mostly on my Toshiba A105 laptop, core duo w/ GMA945
[07:13] <dwidmann> unix_infidel: I don't think so
[07:13] <dwidmann> unix_infidel: if you want a versatile disk, look into the dvd, it can do, well, both
[07:13] <chemicalvamp> pplant xgl has a tendancy of suckin up the cpu
[07:13] <unix_infidel> dwidmann: well, as can the alternate cd
[07:14] <pplant> yes but shouldnt it prioritize audio?
[07:14] <unix_infidel> it'd be awesome if i had the functionality of a live cd, a command line installer.
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> pplant no
[07:14] <unix_infidel> so if i needed a live cd, i'd have one and since i like a command line install so i can custom build.
[07:14] <dwidmann> unix_infidel: yes, but the alternate isn't flexible ... the dvd can do the text mode, live, oem, etc
[07:14] <pplant> this is insidious! And they broke it for feisty! my audio was fine under dapper and edgy
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> pplant i dont think sound is at the top of the list of priorities
[07:14] <unix_infidel> dwidmann: i dont have a dvdburner.
[07:14] <unix_infidel> might ask shipit for one.
[07:15] <chemicalvamp> pplant y wireless worked in edgy too ;)
[07:15] <dwidmann> unix_infidel: and I don't have bandwidth, so I ordered a copy, plenty of sites out there that offer
[07:15] <dwidmann> or you could have someone else ship you one, or wait forever and a day for shipit to send you one
[07:15] <unix_infidel> dwidmann: i'm in no hurry.
[07:16] <pplant> feisty is a pig too... it's the first distro which will not run on my Dell P2/466
[07:16] <unix_infidel> i've already got the alternate cd iso.
[07:16] <chemicalvamp> wow that reminds me, i still havent gotten my shipit cd, oreder it a year ago
[07:16] <wolferine> !scanner
[07:16] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:17] <dwidmann> unix_infidel: think I ordered from discountlinuxdvd this time around, they don't seem too bad. Got 9 dvds from them for $18, including shipping
[07:18] <Skuller> does kubun support sata drives with no manual stuff?
[07:19] <Skuller> i mean like i dont want to go about manually mounting stuff
[07:19] <sickname> #openbsd
[07:19] <dwidmann> Skuller: yes
[07:20] <dwidmann> Skuller: in fact, all of my drives (less my dvd drives) are SATA
[07:20] <Skuller> dwidmann: glad to know, thanks
[07:20] <inteliwasp> how can i cinvert a rpm pakage to deb?
[07:20] <inteliwasp> *convert*
[07:21] <dwidmann> !info alient | inteliwasp
[07:21] <ubotu> inteliwasp: Package alient does not exist in feisty
[07:21] <dwidmann> !info alient]  | inteliwasp
[07:21] <dwidmann> !info alien | inteliwasp
[07:21] <ubotu> inteliwasp: alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.65 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[07:21] <dwidmann> there we gio
[07:21] <dwidmann> stupid typos
[07:21] <inteliwasp> is that on edgy?
[07:22] <dwidmann> should be on everything
[07:22] <inteliwasp> it is, D/Ling
[07:22] <inteliwasp> many thanks
[07:22] <wolferine> where is my brand_name.conf to setup for my scanner?
[07:22] <wolferine> in xsane
[07:24] <iric> can someone help me enable my spdif
[07:27] <dwidmann> Hmm, I wonder if there's any way to alter kaffeine's menu bar timeout in full screen
[07:31] <wolferine> once I setup my .conf for my driver, I need to set my permissions for my scanner, where do I set it, so all users can utilize it?
[07:35] <guaqua> as ironic as it is, apport is the only really badly crashing application on my ubuntu box
[07:35] <guaqua> anyone else running into the same problem?
[07:35] <guaqua> for some reason it sometimes goes berzerk and launches maybe 8 instances that i can see in top
[07:35] <guaqua> takes ~5 minutes for me to be able to get any kind of response from the system after that point
[07:36] <guaqua> and the computer is thrashing for the whole time
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> well, that was interesting...someone cracked my wifi...
[07:46] <flaccid> what encryption did you use
[07:47] <jager> nice one
[07:47] <hitmanWilly> it was wpa, but its now set up for 128 bit wep with mac filtering:) good luck on that one
[07:47] <zblach> hi. quick quesiton. i've set KNetworkManager in manual mode. how can I get it back to automatic?
[07:47] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: how long passphrase?
[07:48] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: WEP is easily crackable now. WPA is not.
[07:48] <flaccid> people can crack your 128bit WEP pretty easy
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, alright, back to wpa then with a better passphrase...
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> still leave the mac filtering on, tho
[07:49] <jon_> How do I tell dpkg not to run the pre and post install scripts? I have a package that the script is failing and I don't need it.
[07:49] <Lynoure> hitmanWilly: maximum lenght, random and changed regularly is not as much work as people think...
[07:49] <StepNjump> Has anyone Has anyone tried the new Kubuntu 7 yet?
[07:49] <zblach> StepNjump: most of us
[07:49] <dwidmann> StepNjump: lots of people :)
[07:50] <flaccid> yes
[07:50] <jon_> Step, as soon as I can get k3d uninstalled I will. lol
[07:50] <zblach> might have well asked 'does anyone here use linux?'
[07:50] <StepNjump> Is it worth upgrading from 6?
[07:50] <dwidmann> 6.10 or 6.06?
[07:50] <StepNjump> I just recently installed 6.06
[07:50] <StepNjump> 3 days ago
[07:50] <dwidmann> what's your setup?
[07:51] <StepNjump> i386
[07:51] <Lynoure> StepNjump: depends on what you use your 6.06 for.
[07:51] <jon_> I'm trying to uninstall k3d and I'm getting post install script errors when trying to uninstall it.
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> Lynoure, i know...laziness...i think it was the new neighbors...passphrase now max length with no hint of readability
[07:51] <StepNjump> desktop apps
[07:51] <StepNjump> only
[07:51] <StepNjump> FORMAT
[07:51] <StepNjump> lol
[07:51] <jon_> Anyone know how to make dpgk skip the scripts?
[07:51] <dwidmann> StepNjump: upgrading could be helpful
[07:51] <StepNjump> I'm downloading 7 now. I'll give it a shot tomorrow
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> wifi isnt exactly my strong suit...
[07:52] <StepNjump> dwid, I'm too green for that
[07:52] <StepNjump> Can't get apt-get to work
[07:52] <StepNjump> or anything else...
[07:52] <StepNjump> I must be getting too old
[07:52] <StepNjump> :(
[07:52] <dwidmann> jon: try using --force, maybe
[07:53] <StepNjump> I used to know what I was doing back in the 386 days
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> if it happens agin im just going to disable wireless altogether and hard connect everything
[07:53] <Lynoure> StepNjump: then while the new one has lots of cute nice things, there is not must-haves. Except maybe Basket....
[07:53] <StepNjump> hitman, did you know that they are getting wireless equipments out of schools in the UK
[07:53] <Lynoure> StepNjump: (my opinion only, of course)
[07:54] <StepNjump> Like I always said, why would you stand next to a mini microwave oven 24/7/365?
[07:54] <Lynoure> StepNjump: sure, it's newer and nicer, but not necessarily worth doing for. So only upgrade if you feel like it. :)
[07:54] <flaccid> StepNjump: some humans are stupid
[07:54] <StepNjump> They'll find out in many years that wireless was a major cause for cancer
[07:54] <StepNjump> Hardwire is GOOD
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> StepNjump, you are probably right, i just like being able to cart my laptop around anywhere in the house :)
[07:54] <StepNjump> Yep but one of these days you might pay the price
[07:55] <StepNjump> Think about it, why is prostate cancer so high today
[07:55] <StepNjump> Where does your laptop go?
[07:55] <StepNjump> On your lap....
[07:55] <StepNjump> I rest my case
[07:55] <StepNjump> Bad, bad bad....
[07:55] <jon_> dwid - --force requires a modifier and there doesn't seem to be a no script one
[07:55] <wolferine> need a hand with setting up my scanner
[07:56] <flaccid> um this is #kubuntu support channel, lets not talk about wireless cancer
[07:56] <StepNjump> I'm a ham guys. I know the potential risks of radio frequencies, especially at that gigahertz level... Really not good for u
[07:56] <jon_> I don't like wireless because its unreliable and slow
[07:56] <jon_> Wolferine, do you have sane installed?
[07:57] <StepNjump> Every house should be built with Cat 5 in the walls ready to go
[07:57] <wolferine> jon_, yes
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> StepNjump, im with you on that :)
[07:57] <jon_> Have you opened up xsane?
[07:57] <wolferine> jon_, i have edited my /etc/sane.d/epson.conf as well
[07:57] <Lynoure> StepNjump: Cat 6 at least, nowadays =)
[07:57] <dwidmann> StepNjump: or better yet, cat6
[07:57] <StepNjump> Well yeah! Dwid..
[07:58] <jon_> Hmmmm.... Is it listed as supported by sane?
[07:58] <flaccid> StepNjump: i don't think you know what you are talking about anyway. frequency will not increase damage, gain will
[07:58] <Lynoure> It's really really annoying to replace in wall cabling.
[07:58] <flaccid> !off-topic
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <wolferine> jon_, I had it working before, but I just reformatted/updated to Fiesty
[07:58] <flaccid> !offtopic
[07:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:58] <StepNjump> Flaccid, yes frequency does make a difference
[07:59] <wolferine> jon_, so I am working on xsane viewing it
[07:59] <flaccid> StepNjump: not by itself no. but please look at the topic of this channel.
[07:59] <StepNjump> 100 watts at 1 MHz, the maximum exposure is at about 2 feet
[07:59] <jon_> Wolf, ah I had the same thing happen to my webcam after upgrading to Dapper.
[07:59] <wolferine> jon_, your cam?
[08:00] <StepNjump> 100 watts at 1000 MHz (1GHz), the maximum exposure could be at a minimum distance of 50 feet or more
[08:00] <wolferine> was it viewed by xsane?
[08:00] <wolferine> jon_, seems i am just having permission issues
[08:00] <jon_> No, but the driver stopped working.
[08:00] <wolferine> sudo scanimage -d epson --format pnm > outfile.pnm
[08:00] <wolferine> that just worked
[08:01] <wolferine> so how can I find the location of the device?
[08:01] <StepNjump> For instance, I can transmit in my car on the 80 mtr band (3 MHz) with my antenna at 3 feet away from me 50 watts, however on the 40 Mtr band (7 MHz) it drops at 30 watts, and only 20 watts on 20 metres
[08:01] <flaccid> its not that simple StepNjump. and like i said not frequency alone 1mW at 100,000GHz will do nothing.
[08:01] <flaccid> !offtopic
[08:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:01] <flaccid> stop talking about radio freq
[08:01] <jon_> wolf, just a sec.
[08:01] <StepNjump> If you want to be able to transmit at the same power in order to comply with the Maximum human exposure levels, you want to increase the distance to the antenna
[08:01] <wolferine> jon_, k, thanks
[08:02] <StepNjump> Nothing???
[08:02] <StepNjump> Are you sure?
[08:02] <flaccid> yes i'm sure
[08:02] <flaccid> now stfu
[08:02] <Lynoure> StepNjump: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for that
[08:02] <zblach> speaking of which, anyone have any success with KNetworkManager?
[08:03] <jon_> Wolf, do you have a /dev/scanner?
[08:03] <StepNjump> I'd rather have a transmitter in the AM broadcast band next to my pillow at night tuned to 1410 AM transmitting 1 watt than to have a 1mW transmitter in the GHz band (2.4 to be exact) transmitting on my lap....
[08:03] <wolferine> nope
[08:03] <wolferine> nor do I have /dev/epson
[08:03] <StepNjump> Ok sorry guys I will stop the thread
[08:03] <StepNjump> Sorry Lynoure.
[08:03] <MajorApus> apparently linux hates me
[08:04] <dwidmann> MajorApus: how's that?
[08:04] <MajorApus> I cant boot because "sbc3 has been mounted 23 timse without being checked, force check"
[08:04] <Lynoure> StepNjump: I do not mind it as such, interesting, but this is the support channel :)
[08:04] <wolferine> MajorApus, its an OS, it cannot hate anyone...
[08:04] <wolferine> ... or can it??!
[08:04] <MajorApus> so it starts disk check, and it will never get past 51.7% so it never boots
[08:04] <StepNjump> Sure Lynoure, no problem. I'm new to Linux. I didn't know
[08:04] <StepNjump> I'm learning....
[08:04] <dwidmann> MajorApus: maybe it found a problem?
[08:04] <MajorApus> there is nothing wrong with the disk, I dont want it to be checked
[08:04] <wolferine> MajorApus, burn it again
[08:04] <MajorApus> no there is no problem
[08:04] <MajorApus> burn it?
[08:04] <StepNjump> You guys are all great here
[08:04] <MajorApus> this is a hard drive
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> MajorApus, just wait a minute, its probably fixing hdd errors
[08:05] <wolferine> MajorApus, new install?
[08:05] <MajorApus> a data hard drive
[08:05] <zblach> i've accidentally set KNetworkManager into manual, how can I get it back to auto ;( ?
[08:05] <MajorApus> hitmanwilly: no, I dont want it to mess with the hdd
[08:05] <jon_> Major, ext3 filesystems are automatically checked for problems with a full scan after 23 reboots.
[08:05] <MajorApus> it freezes at 51.7% its not fixing anything
[08:05] <MajorApus> jon_ its fat32
[08:05] <dwidmann> :o
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> MajorApus, it takes a while sometimes...
[08:06] <dwidmann> pull it up in a live cd
[08:06] <jon_> Scan it from a windows boot disk then
[08:06] <dwidmann> mount your root partition on the livecd
[08:06] <Lynoure> StepNjump: nice that you decided to try it. If you really installed Linux for the first time 3 days ago, I'd recommend using that version for a while. I think the next version is a Long Term Support version again (6 months from now), so then you'd have a simple upgrade to that.
[08:06] <wolferine> jon_, find anything?
[08:06] <MajorApus> dwidmann what will that help?
[08:06] <dwidmann> edit the /etc/fstab in your root partition that you j ust mounted, on the line associated with the fat partition, change the 2 numbers at the end of the line to "0 0"
[08:07] <MajorApus> dwidmann thats the number of boots?
[08:07] <jon_> Wolf, here's a page http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-find-scanner.1.html
[08:07] <jordo23> Does anyone have a link to a howto to install the multimedia codec pack (XVid, DiVX, etc)
[08:07] <MajorApus> so every 23 reboots I have to do this? its not even ext3 its fat32, the drive is fine, its not even written to its read only, I just want to skip the "forced" check
[08:07] <ssaa> hello i need some help please. No sound is coming out my laptop speakers but i can hear everything through the headphone out
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:07] <ssaa> what can I do?
[08:07] <jon_> jordo, I just unrestricted all repositories in /etc/sources.list
[08:08] <wolferine> yep, it locates it, the sane-find-scanner  I mean
[08:08] <wolferine> but I still cannot setup permissions
[08:08] <wolferine> sane-find-scanner -v
[08:08] <wolferine> ops
[08:09] <wolferine> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x082b) at libusb:001:006
[08:09] <StepNjump> Ok thanks Lynoure
[08:09] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Is a new process all being together like that?
[08:09] <wolferine> thats my scanner
[08:09] <wolferine> but its not in /dev
[08:09] <StepNjump> It's because I'm really trying to find a quick fix to my problem
[08:09] <tolonuga> hi. I updated to feisty, and my syslog/console was spammed with device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed. I'm using xen, so it might be related to that. (but stock ubuntu xenpackages). known issue?
[08:09] <StepNjump> I want to be able to install various apps like WINE, FIREFOX, etc...
[08:09] <Tm_T> Lynoure: well next LTS is 8.04 or later
[08:09] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, its a metapackage that depends on the latest versions of all those proprietary codecs
[08:09] <StepNjump> and whatever I try, it doesn't work
[08:09] <MajorApus> what if I think that needing a live cd just to edit something is bullshit
[08:10] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Yeah....but was that metapackage in Edgy's repos? Or new to feisty?
[08:10] <wolferine> !language MajorApus
[08:10] <MajorApus> there isn't even a way to tell it to skip it, thats just silly
[08:10] <wolferine> !language | MajorApus
[08:10] <ubotu> MajorApus: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:10] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Thanks for the nvidia help before too...
[08:10] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, i THINK it was in edgy's, can't remember off the top of my head
[08:10] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, np
[08:11] <StepNjump> Linoure: for instance, when I try the ADD/REMOVE programs, everything is grayed out...
[08:11] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I remember it being a longer process in Edgy...
[08:11] <StepNjump> Well, everything that doesn't have a checkmark next to it that is....
[08:11] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, it might have been, its been awhile since i ran 6.10
[08:12] <flowingfire> Hi.... I have a new problem for all you awesome problem-solvers out there.....
[08:12] <StepNjump> Linoure: tried to update the ADEPT package manager and that doesn't work either....
[08:12] <flowingfire> I used adept to install Java, but the install failed
[08:12] <jon_> wolf, do you have a /dev/usb/scanner link?
[08:12] <SJrX> When Adept is done it just says "Done" and has a show details button. If I try to exit it says I have uncommited changes. What do I do?
[08:12] <dwidmann> Really funny thing was, I just told MajorApus how to make it skipt it, though that would have made it skip it all the time ...
[08:12] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, i was using the feisty beta for quite a while before it was released
[08:12] <flowingfire> now I can't get into adept at all even after restart
[08:12] <StepNjump> Works well with what's already in here but if I want to add more add-ons from the web, I'm kinda stuck
[08:12] <flowingfire> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept adpplication or apt-get or aptitude).  Please close the other application before using this one.
[08:12] <wolferine> where is libusb located?
[08:12] <wolferine> so I can change the permissions?
[08:13] <zblach> how can I set knetworkmanager back into automatic? it no longer lists any wireless networks, and relies upon me to set them manually.
[08:13] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: For some reason Kubuntu didn't see my other hd....how do I install it?
[08:13] <dwidmann> z
[08:13] <dwidmann> "locate libusb"
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> !fstab | jordo23
[08:13] <ubotu> jordo23: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:14] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, the tutorial should help you with that
[08:14] <flowingfire> Why would adept stop functioning altogether after it failed to install Java?  That doesn't make any sense... .but I'd like help getting adept working again if anybody is willing
[08:14] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: Does Kubuntu still mount to /media by default?
[08:14] <dwidmann> jordo23: yes
[08:14] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, yes, but hdds aren't usually included there
[08:15] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: aren't they?
[08:15] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann, well, external ones are
[08:15] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: What do I edit to mount it? I don't think the OS sees it?
[08:16] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I know fstab....but what to enter?
[08:16] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, sudo fdisk -l to list what drives the system sees
[08:16] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: I guess I see your point ..... they're more likely to be / /home /boot &c
[08:17] <hitmanWilly> dwidmann, my second one goes on /bulk :)
[08:17] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: It sees sdb1.....that's the one I need mounted....
[08:18] <StepNjump> Does anyone know if Quicken works well under WINE?
[08:18] <underdog5004> StepNjump, I don't think it does, cause it relies on Windows API's...I think
[08:18] <underdog5004> there's an alternative, although I can't remember the name...
[08:18] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: my third and fourth are lvm'd with a partition mounted at /media/storage: )
[08:18] <flowingfire> I tried to install java runtime and the mozilla web java integrator and it broke my whole system.  Adept doesn't work at all anymore, and beryl is only half functioning.  I don't get what went wrong here.
[08:18] <StepNjump> mmm thought so. I guess I will have to transfer my data to the GNU equivalent of Quicken eh?
[08:19] <hitmanWilly> jordo23, fstab is pretty similar to the mount cmd with a few extra options, that tutorial link from ubotu should help with the syntax
[08:19] <StepNjump> I really want to drop WinXP all together
[08:19] <underdog5004> yeah...not sure if it'll work...
[08:19] <wolferine> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x082b) at libusb:001:006
[08:19] <wolferine> how do I change the permissions for this device?
[08:19] <dwidmann> **second and third, seems my brain shifted a hair to the right
[08:19] <underdog5004> for my boss, quickbooks is the only thing holding him back from linux altogether
[08:19] <wolferine> works fine as sudo....
[08:19] <StepNjump> Yep underdog
[08:19] <dwidmann> underdog5004: http://appdb.winehq.org
[08:20] <flowingfire> Okay if nobody can answer my questions, can somebody recommend a stable version of linux?  Something that doesn't black out, slide around, crash, or do strange things?
[08:20] <StepNjump> One of these days, it will be bye bye for good
[08:20] <dwidmann> possibly check out codeweavers crossover office also
[08:20] <underdog5004> flowingfire, what are your troubles?
[08:21] <hitmanWilly> anyway, ive got to get some sleep...later all
[08:21] <flowingfire> underdog5004: I installed Java with adept, but the installation failed and gave me some strange error.  Then adept stopped working altogether, and now beryl and some other stuff is broken on reboot.
[08:21] <flowingfire> underdog5004: And my login screen slides around on mouse movement... and firefox blacks out at random
[08:21] <flowingfire> and this is my second install lol
[08:22] <underdog5004> flowingfire, lol, that's why I don't use adept...try synaptic, if you reinstall
[08:22] <jager> the machinist: creepy cool
[08:22] <underdog5004> if you don't, then the solution to the sliding is to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:22] <flowingfire> underdog5004: What's synaptic?  Is it way better?
[08:22] <underdog5004> that may fix firefox and beryl as well
[08:23] <StepNjump> Underdog: I guess quickbooks works under wine... it's listed in the applications
[08:23] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I kinda get it, but I am not exactly sure about columns three through five in fstab...
[08:23] <dwidmann> apt-get forever!! :D
[08:23] <ForgeAus> they're both gui front ends for apt-get
[08:23] <underdog5004> flowingfire, it's much better, but it's just another frontend for apt-get
[08:23] <ForgeAus> synaptic is gnome-based and adept is kde-based
[08:23] <ForgeAus> at least in visual design
[08:23] <flowingfire> Oh cool.. I'm going to try the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:23] <underdog5004> frontend = Graphical User Interface for a commandline program
[08:23] <ForgeAus> but there was a kynaptic package too (ark linux uses it)
[08:24] <ForgeAus> underdog, yes in most cases
[08:24] <flowingfire> ahh
[08:24] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: last I checked it wasn't finished
[08:24] <StepNjump> Underdog: http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php?iCatId=63
[08:24] <jager> bah just use apt from the cli
[08:24] <jager> oh no typing is hard
[08:24] <underdog5004> jager, he's a beginner...synaptic is easier
[08:24] <underdog5004> jager, lay off
[08:24] <ForgeAus> dwidmann, I wouldn't be suprised if that were true
[08:25] <ForgeAus> I don't personally think either are easier, they're just different
[08:25] <underdog5004> ForgeAus, if you're more gui-oriented, guis are better...same with clis
[08:25] <underdog5004> I should think
[08:25] <ForgeAus> I'm definitely more gui oriented
[08:26] <ForgeAus> .. personally
[08:26] <underdog5004> flowingfire, after you've done the dpkg-reconfigure thing, restart X (Ctrl + Alt + Backspace)
[08:26] <underdog5004> ForgeAus, I know, I know, I prefer apt-get too
[08:26] <ForgeAus> I'm not anti-cli I just prefer gui
[08:26] <dwidmann> I'm some sort of mix, where would I be without my konsole kpart in half my apps? :P
[08:26] <flowingfire> underdog5004: Okay . . .  I already did the command line thing and re-installed an Nvidia driver as it appears.
[08:26] <MajorApus> the restricted package doens't actually work
[08:27] <ForgeAus> lol dwidmann
[08:27] <ForgeAus> bbl I gotta go
[08:27] <MajorApus> this is the second install where the restricted package dind't enable mp3 support
[08:27] <dwidmann> later ForgeAus
[08:27] <dwidmann> I think I'm going to go too, night all
[08:27] <ssaa> please  help me . how can i get sound from my laptop speakersw
[08:27] <ssaa> ?
[08:28] <wolferine> ssaa, turn them on
[08:28] <jager> heh
[08:28] <wolferine> ssaa, then turn up the volume
[08:28] <wolferine> ssaa, insert your DVD
[08:28] <ssaa> i have turned up the volume already
[08:28] <wolferine> ssaa, then hit play
[08:28] <MajorApus> can someone help me figure out how come the restricted package doesn't enable mp3 support, or basic avi codec support? like it says to it should, the wiki says this is what i am supose to do and it simply doens't work
[08:28] <ssaa> im getting sound from my headphone out bt no sound from speakers
[08:29] <wolferine> ssaa, they arent plugged in then
[08:29] <fiction> on which folder is my theme located? (like icons, etc)
[08:29] <flowingfire> Hi. :)  I just logged back in after doing the ctrl-alt-backspace command
[08:29] <ssaa> yes they ate
[08:29] <ssaa> are
[08:29] <ssaa> they are laptop speakers
[08:29] <wolferine> they are dead
[08:29] <ssaa> built in speakers
[08:29] <wolferine> or your volume is down
[08:29] <ssaa> i've just tried them in windows
[08:29] <ssaa> volume is ok
[08:29] <wolferine> good for you
[08:30] <wolferine> u have more than one way to adjust the volume
[08:30] <flowingfire> Beryl is still broken... Adept doesn't work... My desktop is acting funny...  And though the sliding problem was solved, my desktop looks squished
[08:30] <ssaa> i have tried alsamixer also
[08:30] <stephZ> ssaa did you try kmix
[08:30] <ssaa> stephZ: yes i did
[08:30] <underdog5004> flowingfire, lol, you may have selected the wrong resolutions when you reconfigged Xserver
[08:30] <bytech> does aanyone know specs for Beryl??????????
[08:31] <ssaa> everything is unmuted and with volume up
[08:31] <underdog5004> may want to go back through...space to select/deselect, Tab to change from list to action
[08:31] <underdog5004> bytech, calm down
[08:31] <flowingfire> underdog5004: Really?  I selected 1280x1024, which is optimal for my 19' monitor
[08:31] <MajorApus> why is everyone silent on this issue? the perscribed way to get mp3 support in the current stable distro of kubuntu , DOES NOT WORK
[08:31] <wolferine> bytech, check the website?
[08:31] <stephZ> majorapus -> it worked fine for me
[08:31] <wolferine> ssaa, what happens when you play something?
[08:32] <wolferine> an error msgs?
[08:32] <jgoss> MajorApus: install libxine-extracodecs
[08:32] <underdog5004> flowingfire, weird...maybe I was wrong...sorry
[08:32] <jgoss> MajorApus: if you want amarok to play mp3's. i'm not sure what media player you are using.
[08:32] <MajorApus> jgoss if thats the case, someone needs to change the wiki
[08:32] <ssaa> wolferine: no error messages. everything plays normally but i got no sound
[08:32] <underdog5004> flowingfire, generally, when I screw a system up really badly, I just reinstall...
[08:32] <flowingfire> underdog5004: It's no worse that it was before... Maybe a little better due to the login screen not sliding. :)
[08:32] <wolferine> ssaa, the sound is controlled by your keypad maybe
[08:32] <zerothis> MajorApus: I agree, my mp3s all sound like static
[08:32] <wolferine> ssaa, do some googling
[08:32] <ssaa> wolferine: if i plug my headphones i can hear everything
[08:33] <goldfndr> speaking of changing the wiki... I'm having the same trouble as "RK": I cannot find any "Kubuntu Distribution Upgrade Tool" on my system, nor do I find a hint at what package I need to install to have it. Can someone cure my blindness and point me to it? --RK
[08:33] <stephZ> saa what's your player?
[08:33] <flowingfire> underdog5004: Do you know if any prior releases are more stable with bugfixes and all?  I can't seem to get this working right on my computer.
[08:33] <ssaa> i have tried amarok , caffeine
[08:33] <underdog5004> flowingfire, which version are you using know?
[08:33] <underdog5004> now*
[08:33] <stephZ> try to launch amarok from a konsole and see if there is message error
[08:33] <flowingfire> underdog5004: I'm using Kubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn
[08:33] <jordo23> !codec
[08:33] <MajorApus> not to mention, the restricted package doesn't add support for AVI files
[08:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:34] <ssaa> stephZ: ok
[08:34] <underdog5004> flowingfire, I would use edgy till feisty is worked out
[08:34] <MajorApus> jordo that package doesn't work
[08:34] <underdog5004> jmoho
[08:34] <flowingfire> underdog5004: At this point, I agree-- LOL.  I was thinking I'd file a bug report or two today, but I'm a bit tired from the two I supplied yesterday. lol
[08:35] <underdog5004> lol
[08:35] <jgoss> MajorApus: if i recall correctly ffmpeg replays avi files. you may need the w32codecs also.
[08:35] <underdog5004> yeah, we can't all be givers!
[08:35] <flowingfire> underdog5004: Thanks for the help tho
[08:35] <jgoss> *plays
[08:35] <underdog5004> flowingfire, np, I'm on a lot
[08:35] <praecox> hello guys
[08:35] <MajorApus> jgoss those arn't part of restricted?
[08:35] <MajorApus> what the hell does that package do!?
[08:35] <praecox> during last upgrade Adept uninstalled some of my components in System Settings.
[08:35] <praecox> how can I bring them back?
[08:36] <fiction> on which folder is my theme located? (like icons, etc)
[08:36] <praecox> I have already tried apt-get install --reinstall kde-systemsettings
[08:36] <praecox> but it didn't help.
[08:36] <MajorApus> anyone else having problems with the gui mount utility just ignoring this you try and do
[08:36] <ssaa> stephZ: here's the output   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17358/
[08:36] <underdog5004> praecox, sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings
[08:36] <jgoss> MajorApus: i think flash, java, gstreamer-ugly, and mscorefonts are they only things included in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:36] <underdog5004> reinstall is for packages already installed
[08:36] <underdog5004> if that doesn't work, try apt-get install kcontrol
[08:36] <MajorApus> jgoss thats all and good, someone should fix it so it doesnt say mp3 and most codecs
[08:36] <praecox> underdog5004, kde-systemsettings is already the newest version.
[08:36] <underdog5004> hmmm
[08:37] <jgoss> MajorApus: i agree.
[08:37] <praecox> underdog5004, kcontrol is already the newest version.
[08:37] <underdog5004> adept seems to be screwing everyone tonight
[08:37] <MajorApus> jgoss so what do I need for codecs?
[08:37] <underdog5004> I don't know, then...sorry
[08:37] <wolferine> need an hand setting permissions for my Epson scanner, so my users can use it
[08:37] <stephZ> sa i have the same error but it works for me ;-)
[08:38] <ssaa> oh
[08:38] <GuHHH> can anyone help me installing php5 module on apache 1.3 (ubuntu feist)
[08:38] <jgoss> MajorApus: ffmpeg and libxine1-ffmpeg should do it. i would also install the w32codec package.
[08:38] <ssaa> stephZ: are you using alsa_
[08:38] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: I ran that codec script before and it won't play divx or xvid movies in kaffeine, is there something left to do?
[08:38] <wolferine> GuHHH, what appears to be the issue?
[08:38] <stephZ> jgoss, there is no more w32codecs i think, there is only ubuntu-restricted
[08:39] <underdog5004> g'night all
[08:39] <GuHHH> wolferine: cant find the package :/
[08:39] <jordo23> hitmanWilly: nevermind....got it....I think..
[08:39] <MajorApus> stephz thats either completely wrong, or we are screwed, because restricted does not install any media codecs anymore
[08:39] <wolferine> GuHHH, you cannot find it in the installer?
[08:40] <jgoss> stephZ: i think the prefered way to get the w32codecs is from the medibuntu repository now
[08:40] <stephZ> jgoss, ok thanks,
[08:40] <stephZ> jgoss, in fact i installed mplayer and that's enough for me
[08:40] <StepNjump> Could anybody help me with this error?
[08:41] <aldin> praecox: u could try rm -rf ~.kde
[08:41] <StepNjump> /etc/apt$ sudo apt-get install adept_installer
[08:41] <StepNjump> Reading package lists... Done
[08:41] <StepNjump> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:41] <StepNjump> E: Couldn't find package adept_installer
[08:41] <jgoss> that's great too =)
[08:41] <underdog5004> praecox, don't do that
[08:41] <GuHHH> wolferine: cant find it on apt repositories... only apache2 module
[08:41] <underdog5004> that'll kill all kde settings
[08:41] <GuHHH> wolferine: its annoying
[08:42] <jgoss> StepNjump: it's adept-installer
[08:42] <aldin> underdog5004: so what
[08:42] <stephZ> Step -> adept-installer
[08:42] <StepNjump> How can I get the package adept_installer in my system jgoss?
[08:42] <wolferine> GuHHH sudo aptitude update
[08:42] <wolferine> GuHHH, did you edit your sources.list?
[08:42] <stephZ> step -> sudo apt-get install adept-installer
[08:42] <aldin> underdog5004: after that logou/login and it will back him as default kubuntu installation
[08:42] <jgoss> yest stephZ has the correct command for you =)
[08:42] <StepNjump> Thaanks Steph... but I think I tried it.. didn't work
[08:43] <StepNjump> Let me try again StephZ
[08:43] <stephZ> step : ok
[08:43] <GuHHH> wolferine: yes... do you find it on ubuntu feist? try: libapache-mod-php5
[08:44] <StepNjump> StephZ: no always the same problem:
[08:44] <StepNjump> /etc/apt$ sudo apt-get install adept-installer
[08:44] <StepNjump> Reading package lists... Done
[08:44] <StepNjump> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:44] <StepNjump> E: Couldn't find package adept-installer
[08:44] <MajorApus> what is wrong with the mount utility in system settings?  sometimes it takes the options I specify and applies them to a DIFFERENT drive?
[08:44] <MajorApus> sometimes I cant even access some drives some of the time
[08:44] <StepNjump> MajorApus, yesterday I mounted my NTFS drive and today... nothing
[08:44] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm having problems with mounting a network hard drive. I'm able to mount it, but only so that root has write access to it? Any ideas how I can mount it so that other usernames will have write access as well?
[08:44] <StepNjump> do a ls in /mnt/windows and nada
[08:45] <StepNjump> go figure
[08:45] <stephZ> step -> what's your version of kubuntu?
[08:45] <StepNjump> So you are not alone
[08:45] <StepNjump> StephZ: 6.06.1
[08:45] <MajorApus> im 7.04
[08:45] <wolferine> GuHHH, what?
[08:45] <barist> hi
[08:45] <MajorApus> the last batch of updates messed up a lot
[08:45] <GuHHH> wolferine: are u on ubuntu feist?
[08:45] <StepNjump> Should I upgrade StephZ?
[08:46] <GuHHH> MajorApus: can u help me?
[08:46] <barist> i have a problem with kubuntu, any one help pe ?
[08:46] <wolferine> GuHHH, how about answering my questions
[08:46] <stephZ> step ->no you have the latest
[08:46] <GuHHH> wolferine: id add some repositories, but what else should i do?
[08:46] <stephZ> step->mine said you already have the latest adept-installer
[08:46] <jgoss> i'm not sure but wasn't adept-installer introduced in edgy?
[08:47] <stephZ> step->did you modify you souces.list?
[08:47] <MajorApus> guhhh no im problem prone
[08:47] <MajorApus> on an average day my linux kernel needs to be recompiled twice
[08:47] <StepNjump> Yes stephZ because the lines were commented with a # (the servers)
[08:47] <wolferine> GuHHH sudo aptitude update
[08:47] <GuHHH> MajorApus: just type: apt-cache search libapache-mod-php5 and tell me if u can find it, please?
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <StepNjump> so I removed the comments (#) for the server lines
[08:48] <GuHHH> wolferine: i did it many times, do not help. :(
[08:48] <stephZ> step : ok
[08:48] <StepNjump> Am I supposed to change the server list StephZ?
[08:48] <stephZ> step : no
[08:48] <wolferine> GuHHH, did you edit your sources.list?
[08:48] <StepNjump> #Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[08:48] <StepNjump> That's true because when I installed, I didn't have the WiFi configured and wasn't hard wired
[08:48] <wolferine> GuHHH, what did u do, add to it, comment out lines, etc?
[08:49] <GuHHH> wolferine: added repositories, only...
[08:49] <StepNjump> Nope, the installer daemon did that
[08:49] <barist> i want to connect my kubuntu installed pc via ssh from other computer but a error messace appear "connection refused"
[08:49] <StepNjump> I guess
[08:49] <StepNjump> barist, do you have a firewall at either end?
[08:49] <wolferine> GuHHH, CD is still active in the source.list?
[08:50] <GuHHH> wolferine: commented the cd-rom repositories
[08:50] <wolferine> why?
[08:50] <GuHHH> wolferine: because it hasnt the file i want :P
[08:50] <wolferine> uncomment it again
[08:50] <MajorApus> I cant mount at all
[08:50] <StepNjump> What do you mean CD wolferine?
[08:50] <wolferine> sudo aptitude update
[08:50] <barist> i dont know kubuntu have? but other computer not firewalled
[08:50] <stephZ> step: did you try to go in adept_manager
[08:50] <wolferine> then you will find php
[08:50] <GuHHH> StepNjump: cd-rom repository
[08:51] <StepNjump> Try bypassing the router at both ends
[08:51] <StepNjump> to rule out that possibility
[08:51] <wolferine> StepNjump, I wasnt talking to you
[08:51] <StepNjump> barist
[08:51] <wolferine> in case you hadnt noticed....
[08:51] <StepNjump> I'm new GuHHH
[08:51] <StepNjump> What do you mean
[08:51] <StepNjump> Sorry for being such an imbecile
[08:51] <wolferine> apology accepted
[08:51] <StepNjump> oh ok sorry Wolferine
[08:52] <StepNjump> StephZ
[08:52] <StepNjump> Adept_manager: Command not found
[08:52] <flowingfire> Wouldn't it be great it we could take the strengths of all the Linuxes and smush them all together?  Like the compatibility and general usability of Ubuntu with the stability of Fedora and the sexy looks of Linspire... And the functionality of Gentoo
[08:52] <barist> i'm trying to connect kubuntu via putty ssh client
[08:52] <MajorApus> so when updates just break things completley we sit and wait?
[08:53] <stephZ> step : don't put > Adept but adept
[08:53] <GuHHH> its annoying, ive update my system and now i cant install the php module... :(
[08:53] <StepNjump> oh that's what I did StephZ
[08:53] <barist> my windows machine firewall is off
[08:53] <zerothis> how do i add a local directory as a package source?
[08:53] <StepNjump> is adept_manager supposed to be in /usr/bin?
[08:54] <stephZ> step: yes
[08:54] <StepNjump> this is so weird
[08:54] <StepNjump> I just did a ls adept* in that directory and here is the echo :
[08:54] <StepNjump> adept  adept_batch  adept_installer  adept_notifier  adept_updater
[08:54] <StepNjump> Not there !!!
[08:54] <wolferine> GuHHH, did you do waht I told you?
[08:54] <StepNjump> Agrrrr
[08:55] <StepNjump> Reinstall right StephZ?
[08:55] <GuHHH> wolferine: sorry, what did you tell:
[08:55] <wolferine> GuHHH, scroll up, I am NOT repeating it
[08:55] <stephZ> step: here is my ls adept* in /usr/bin
[08:55] <stephZ> step : adept_batch  adept_installer  adept_manager  adept_notifier  adept_updater
[08:56] <StepNjump> weird
[08:56] <stephZ> step : try sudo apt-get install adept-manger
[08:57] <StepNjump> I think I tried that
[08:57] <StepNjump> Let me check
[08:57] <jgoss> StepNjump: i think on ubuntu dapper the package adept provided adept_updater and adept_installer. so try sudo apt-get install adept
[08:57] <stephZ> jgoss : he is on a 7.04
[08:58] <jgoss> oh, oops. sorry.
[08:58] <stephZ> jgoss ;-)
[08:58] <StepNjump> StephZ: yep always the same thing. It seems to need adept_manager to update itself
[08:58] <StepNjump> E: Couldn't find package adept-manager
[08:58] <GuHHH> wolferine: ok, i will try... but i think it has only apache2 :/
[08:59] <stephZ> step : can you do a uname -r
[08:59] <StepNjump> Ok thanks jgoss, I will try that
[08:59] <jgoss> StepNjump: i thought you said earlier you were on 6.06.1?
[09:00] <stephZ> jgoss : you are right he is 6.06
[09:00] <StepNjump> I am jgoss
[09:00] <StepNjump> That's what I downloaded
[09:00] <jgoss> well hope it works then =)
[09:00] <StepNjump> 6.06
[09:01] <StepNjump> Howcan I tell for sure?
[09:01] <StepNjump> jgoss:
[09:01] <StepNjump> sudo apt-get install adept
[09:01] <StepNjump> Reading package lists... Done
[09:01] <StepNjump> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:01] <StepNjump> adept is already the newest version.
[09:01] <StepNjump> when I do sudo apt-get install adept_manager it tells me that I don't have adept_manager!!!
[09:01] <StepNjump> What is the DOS equivalent of VER
[09:02] <StepNjump> for Linux
[09:02] <jgoss> StepNjump: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install adept
[09:02] <StepNjump> Oh that's a new one.. Sounds good jgoss
[09:02] <StepNjump> let me give it my best shot
[09:02] <Kubuntulator> hello
[09:03] <StepNjump> jgoss: Reinstallation of adept is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[09:03] <StepNjump> That's what it told me! lol
[09:03] <StepNjump> Why would that be???
[09:04] <Kubuntulator> does the kubuntu-desktop have an option to turn on the Cube and wobbly windows like in ubuntu ?
[09:04] <jgoss> i'm not sure but you can download it at http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/kde/adept and try installing it manually.
[09:05] <StepNjump> ok thanks jgoss, but how do I install it manually?
[09:05] <StepNjump> just cp it to the folder?
[09:06] <stephZ> step : dpkg -i name_of_the_package
[09:06] <StepNjump> Awesome guys, let me give this a shot
[09:06] <StepNjump> I've been trying all day!
[09:06] <StepNjump> brb
[09:07] <stephZ> step : sudo dpkg - i adept_2.0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:08] <jgoss> StepNjump: maybe sudo apt-get remove adept first. it may just say adept is already installed.
[09:08] <Kubuntulator> why not install synaptic and use that to reinstall adept :D
[09:08] <jgoss> that's a better idea. a lot easier :).
[09:09] <Kubuntulator> hehe
[09:09] <StepNjump> Ok thanks jgoss for remove
[09:09] <StepNjump> I'll give it a shot
[09:09] <StepNjump> downloading now
[09:10] <StepNjump> Seem like I'm on the right track
[09:10] <StepNjump> Was worth trying
[09:10] <StepNjump> I learned a lot about bash shell cmds in the meanwhile
[09:10] <stephZ> step : just for my own interest, how did you managed to remove adept?
[09:12] <wolferine> ok, one last time, anyone able to help me to setup my scanner ?
[09:12] <stephZ> wolferine : what's you scanner ?
[09:12] <wolferine> stephZ, are you experienced?
[09:13] <wolferine> its an Epson CX5000
[09:13] <NewUser> which scaner do you have?
[09:13] <wolferine> i just said NewUser
[09:13] <NewUser> USB?
[09:13] <wolferine> correct
[09:13] <wolferine> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x082b) at libusb:001:006
[09:13] <stephZ> wolferine: kubuntu version?
[09:13] <wolferine> ubuntu
[09:13] <NewUser> do you have sane and xsane installed?
[09:14] <wolferine> xsane is installed
[09:14] <GuHHH> how do i remove a dir that isnt empty?
[09:14] <wolferine> i can scan as sudo
[09:14] <NewUser> GuHHH rm -rf see man =)
[09:14] <wolferine> xsane doesnt recognize the device
[09:14] <GuHHH> NewUser: thanks
[09:14] <stephZ> wolferine : stupid question, but what's happening with kooka?
[09:15] <NewUser> you can scan as root?
[09:15] <wolferine> stephZ, how do I use it to scan (kooka) ?
[09:15] <wolferine> NewUser, yes, as I said
[09:16] <stephZ> wolverine : launch kooka (scan prog as xsane)
[09:16] <wolferine> scan prog as xsane?
[09:16] <stephZ> a program which act as xsane
[09:16] <wolferine> how about we start over
[09:17] <MajorApus> can someone tell me the correct name for the packages ffmpeg and libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:17] <wolferine> I can scan as su, but I cannot as my user
[09:17] <GuHHH> how do i get beryl to work?
[09:17] <wolferine> i will use xsane to scan
[09:17] <wolferine> (not kooka)
[09:17] <stephZ> wolverine : oh ok
[09:17] <NewUser> GhHHH go to beryl-project.org
[09:17] <GuHHH> beryl: No composite extension
[09:17] <GuHHH> what that means?
[09:18] <jgoss> MajorApus: those are the correct names i think.
[09:18] <wolferine> so no ideas?
[09:18] <StepNjump> StephZ and jgoss, just uninstalled it using apt-get remove adept, where again does it go? /usr/bin?
[09:18] <MajorApus> jgross package doens't exist
[09:18] <wolferine> stephZ, or NewUser ?
[09:19] <NewUser> Wolferine, xsane cannot find your scanner?
[09:19] <stephZ> wolverine:permission are set to saned?
[09:19] <NewUser> If you lauch it as user?
[09:19] <wolferine> NewUser, is it necessary that I repeat myself?
[09:20] <jgoss> MajorApus: it should be there. i just checked. are you on feisty?
[09:20] <MajorApus> ffmpeg is, but not libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:20] <stephZ> wolverine : you must have root:scanner and root:saned
[09:20] <wolferine> lsusb Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04b8:082b Seiko Epson Corp.
[09:20] <MajorApus> how do I give myself access to folders I am using to mount drives /mount/data1 for example
[09:20] <wolferine>  sane-find-scanner found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x082b) at libusb:001:006
[09:21] <jgoss> MajorApus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg it seems to exist. i'm not sure why it's not coming up for you.
[09:21] <wolferine> sudo scanimage -d epson <-- scans
[09:21] <jgoss> StepNjump:  try sudo apt-get install adept to get it back on your computer now.
[09:21] <wolferine> stephZ, i have to change permissions where?
[09:23] <stephZ> wolverine
[09:23] <wolferine> I changed /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to reflect my info from lsusb
[09:23] <wolferine> thats why I can scan with that command
[09:24] <stephZ> wolferine : did you try this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222490
[09:24] <stephZ> wolverine : last poste
[09:25] <wolferine> stephZ, i didnt have /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:07.2/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.1.
[09:26] <StepNjump> StephZ: I get a new error now when trying to install the pkg
[09:26] <StepNjump> sudo dpkg -i adept_2.0ubuntul_i386
[09:26] <StepNjump> dpkg: error processing adept_2.0ubuntul_i386 (--install):
[09:26] <StepNjump>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:26] <StepNjump> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:26] <StepNjump>  adept_2.0ubuntul_i386
[09:26] <MajorApus> whats the command to reload the xorg.conf file
[09:26] <StepNjump> Maybe I didn't type it right
[09:26] <StepNjump> Oh
[09:26] <stephZ> step :yes it maybe
[09:26] <stephZ> :D
[09:26] <StepNjump> Maybe it's a O not Zero
[09:26] <wolferine> MajorApus, did you back it up?
[09:27] <stephZ> step: no/ it's a zero
[09:27] <StepNjump> Looked through X and seems like a O in Oubuntul
[09:27] <NewUser> try chmod 666 /dev/usbscanner0 or chmod 666 /dev/usb/scanner0
[09:27] <MajorApus> it was basic changes wolf
[09:27] <StepNjump> Not zero
[09:27] <StepNjump> hold on....
[09:27] <StepNjump> dip dip dip
[09:27] <jgoss> StepNjump: looks like you forgot the .deb at the end.
[09:27] <wolferine> MajorApus, did u backup the original file?
[09:27] <stephZ> step : type dpkg -i adepthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=tab
[09:27] <MajorApus> wolferine: no, its a simple change in the mouse button binds
[09:27] <stephZ> step : sorry
[09:28] <wolferine> NewUser, I dont have either of those
[09:28] <stephZ> step : ype dpkg -i adept http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=TAb it will autocomplete
[09:28] <wolferine> MajorApus, fyi, you might want to backup a working xorg.conf
[09:28] <MajorApus> fine
[09:29] <MajorApus> its backed up :P whats the command
[09:29] <wolferine> cp xorg.conf_work xorg.conf
[09:29] <NewUser> wolferine why? You not have root?
[09:29] <MajorApus> no, to reload it
[09:29] <wolferine> NewUser, sorry?
[09:29] <NewUser> sudo passwd root
[09:30] <wolferine> MajorApus, when you backup the xorg.conf taht is working, you just cp that to xorg.conf
[09:30] <wolferine> NewUser, sorry?
[09:30] <StepNjump> StephZ now it says
[09:30] <StepNjump> sudo dpkg -i adept
[09:30] <StepNjump> dpkg: error processing adept (--install):
[09:30] <StepNjump>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:30] <StepNjump> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:30] <NewUser> wolferine, you have root access?
[09:30] <StepNjump> adept
[09:30] <StepNjump> We're close now
[09:30] <stephZ> Step: try dpkg -i adept*
[09:31] <StepNjump> I can feel it
[09:31] <StepNjump> Ok StephZ
[09:31] <wolferine> NewUser, I think you know tha answer to your question already
[09:31] <StepNjump> Yep
[09:31] <StepNjump> it did it I think
[09:31] <stephZ> step:  so we are really close then :D
[09:31] <MajorApus> wolferine: no wolf, whats the commadn to force the system to look at xorg.conf again and apply changes
[09:31] <StepNjump>  sudo dpkg -i adept*
[09:31] <StepNjump> Selecting previously deselected package adept.
[09:31] <StepNjump> (Reading database ... 65664 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:31] <StepNjump> Unpacking adept (from adept_2.0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[09:31] <StepNjump> Setting up adept (2.0ubuntu1) ...
[09:31] <jgoss> :)
[09:31] <wolferine> MajorApus, restart X
[09:31] <StepNjump> Yeah!!!
[09:32] <wolferine> logout, or ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:32] <wolferine> that wasnt what you asked btw...
[09:32] <StepNjump> However, believe it or not StephZ: adept_manager is not there
[09:33] <wolferine> NewUser or stephZ thats about all you have?
[09:33] <StepNjump> Nope not there!
[09:33] <StepNjump> adept  adept_batch  adept_installer  adept_notifier  adept_updater
[09:33] <stephZ> step
[09:33] <StepNjump> Isnt that the weirdest thing
[09:33] <stephZ> you ahve adept
[09:34] <StepNjump> Yes I do
[09:34] <jgoss> StepNjump: it should have adept_installer and adept_updater now though :)
[09:34] <StepNjump> Yep it does jgoss
[09:34] <StepNjump> I always had those but it never wanted to update anything
[09:35] <wolferine> zzzzz
[09:35] <wolferine> nite then
[09:35] <StepNjump> The reason I started this question guys is because I can't add/remove programs
[09:35] <wolferine> thanks for trying
[09:35] <jgoss> oh. i thought the problem was you didn't have those.
[09:35] <StepNjump> They are greyed out
[09:35] <StepNjump> Nope
[09:35] <StepNjump> I just can't add/remove programs
[09:35] <stephZ> step : did you launch adept as root?
[09:35] <NewUser> wloferine, you must change permissions of scanner device
[09:35] <StepNjump> When I go to that menu, whatever is not already installed (checked out), is greyed out
[09:35] <StepNjump> so I can't select anything
[09:36] <wolferine> NewUser, yes, but how
[09:36] <NewUser> therefore you must have root access
[09:36] <StepNjump> well, from the bash shell I do sudo adept
[09:36] <StepNjump> and from F2 command line I do kdesu adept
[09:36] <stephZ> step:yep that's right/weird
[09:36] <StepNjump> Lol
[09:36] <StepNjump> I know it's weird
[09:36] <stephZ> step: and what's happening if you do a sudo apt-get update
[09:36] <wolferine> NewUser, you sort of appear to know what your talking about, you must be tired
[09:37] <StepNjump> Ok maybe that might help
[09:37] <NewUser> if you dont know root password you must type "sudo passwd root" and  apply new root password.
[09:37] <StepNjump> When I invoke adept from the bash shell, it pops up an X window that says:
[09:37] <wolferine> NewUser, im not sure if you realize this, but most ppl in here will know their root password
[09:37] <wolferine> and knowing it, does not help me to do what you ask
[09:37] <StepNjump> You will not be able to change your systems settings
[09:37] <NewUser> then su <password>  and chmod 666 /dev/usbscanner0
[09:38] <StepNjump> in any way
[09:38] <wolferine> because your not really reading my posts
[09:38] <StepNjump> because this application
[09:38] <StepNjump> needs special
[09:38] <wolferine> i have no /dev/usbscanner0, as I stated before
[09:38] <StepNjump> administrator
[09:38] <StepNjump> root
[09:38] <StepNjump> priviledges
[09:38] <StepNjump> Please run it as root
[09:38] <stephZ> step: really weird
[09:38] <StepNjump> or through kdesu or sudo programs
[09:38] <StepNjump> to be able to perform these actions
[09:39] <StepNjump> Sudo works but it doesn't work.. is that what it's telling me?
[09:39] <stephZ> step : are you sure of your root pass?
[09:39] <StepNjump> Well, yeah
[09:39] <StepNjump> Let me reset it to be totally sure
[09:39] <StepNjump> Actually
[09:39] <StepNjump> you know what
[09:39] <wolferine> think i need to log
[09:39] <wolferine> thats why
[09:39] <StepNjump> Earlier I changed it but it looks like it never took effect
[09:40] <stephZ> step :;-) we are close
[09:40] <StepNjump> Cuz when I key in the new password it tells me the password is wrong
[09:40] <StepNjump> I think guys I will log off and come back what do you say?
[09:40] <stephZ> step: then reset it :D
[09:40] <StepNjump> Ok
[09:40] <stephZ> step : no need to logoff
[09:40] <voicu> what does ktorrent mean with download and upload bandwidth? there already is a setting for upload/download rate
[09:41] <NewUser> wolferine tru to run xsane from konsole and see log/
[09:43] <fusspils>  elindavid@gmail.com
[09:44] <StepNjump> Wow I fetched the updates StephZ for the first time!!!
[09:44] <xavito> Hey guys I'm using kubuntu 7.04 and I have dependency problems... Can someone help me ?
[09:44] <StepNjump> Looks like it never took my password change
[09:44] <stephZ> step : cool
[09:45] <StepNjump> Awesome
[09:45] <stephZ> then you can sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:45] <StepNjump> Sometimes it's so simple
[09:45] <StepNjump> duh.. it mostly is always simple
[09:45] <StepNjump> But I learned so much with you guys
[09:45] <StepNjump> Ok let me try Step
[09:45] <StepNjump> Steph
[09:45] <NewUser> ! -   -?
[09:46] <kretschmar> hello, is there a bug with dvb-s (nova-s) and feisty (kernel 2.6.20)
[09:46] <voicu> NewUser: #kubuntu-ru ?
[09:46] <StepNjump> Awesome!!
[09:46] <StepNjump> I love LINUX!
[09:46] <StepNjump> This is sooo cool
[09:46] <stephZ> step: cool
[09:47] <praecox> hey, I've got problem with sound on my Kubuntu.
[09:47] <praecox> it's very quiet.
[09:47] <ForgeAus> hehe Linux is good :)
[09:47] <StepNjump> You are awesome StephZ
[09:47] <praecox> I checked and master is set to 100% in alsamixer.
[09:47] <praecox> what can I do with this/
[09:47] <ForgeAus> prae, um I guess I don't have to say check your volume
[09:47] <stephZ> step : thks
[09:47] <praecox> ForgeAus, not at all.
[09:47] <ForgeAus> hmmm does your card have a volume too?
[09:47] <StepNjump> And Jgoss of course
[09:47] <ForgeAus> also speakers...
[09:47] <StepNjump> Thanks to the both of you
[09:48] <praecox> PCM is also set to 100%.
[09:48] <stephZ> step : have a nice day
[09:48] <praecox> ForgeAus, everything worked great before I did dist-upgrade to dapper.
[09:48] <ForgeAus> well in that case I doubt I can help you
[09:48] <StepNjump> I don't understand how they can get Kubuntu to fit on one CD and Mandrake takes almost 3 DVDs to fit on
[09:48] <praecox> ForgeAus, now sound is very quiet.
[09:48] <ForgeAus> I know little about alsa and sound in linux
[09:48] <StepNjump> Eh, I'll stick around a little longer though it's really late
[09:48] <stephZ> step : mandriva
[09:49] <StepNjump> I will keep your nicks here for future reference
[09:49] <praecox> ForgeAus, same as I do, that's why I can't help myself.
[09:49] <stephZ> step: in fact there is a mandriva one
[09:49] <ForgeAus> I mean mine works for the most part... and I've changed volumes, but thats about as far as I go...
[09:50] <StepNjump> What is mandriva Steph?
[09:50] <stephZ> step : the new name ok mandrake
[09:50] <stephZ> step : ok ->of
[09:50] <StepNjump> You obviously prefer kubuntu if you are here?
[09:50] <StepNjump> That's off topic I guess... sorry
[09:51] <stephZ> step: i tried for 6 monthes mandriva 2007 but quickly came back to my kubuntu :D
[09:51] <StepNjump> Ok!
[09:51] <StepNjump> It's really nice. I like them both (ubuntu and kubuntu)
[09:52] <StepNjump> I'm a Nelson Mandella fan so...
[09:52] <stephZ> step:  lol
[09:52] <StepNjump> You guys are great to take your time to help like that
[09:52] <ryks> hi all
[09:52] <ryks> new in linux
[09:52] <ryks> please help
[09:53] <jgoss> ryks: what is your problem? we can try to help then :)
[09:53] <StepNjump> Thanks jgoss. It works!
[09:53] <ForgeAus> mandrive = Mandrake + Connectiva + Lycoris
[09:53] <ryks> i need to instal a player in ubuntu but how?
[09:53] <ForgeAus> grr mandriva.. (damn typos)
[09:53] <stephZ> step : where are you from?
[09:53] <ForgeAus> what kind of player?
[09:53] <jgoss> StepNjump: i'm glad it worked. congrats :)
[09:53] <ryks> i have the pakage .tar
[09:54] <ryks> calleed xine
[09:54] <StepNjump> :)
[09:54] <ryks> with the console?
[09:54] <dug> recently my laptops hdd starts acting crazy, it will start to click non stop, I never had this problem before tonight, anyone know of any sugestions as to what is wrong with it, I doubt its bad, I just purchased it, and I doubt its a heating problem
[09:54] <ForgeAus> xine is a player
[09:54] <jgoss> ryks: xine is in the ubuntu repositories. just click applications and then add/remove programs and search for it.
[09:54] <ForgeAus> you can get it from adept
[09:54] <MajorApus> anyone know about kde extended desktop
[09:54] <ForgeAus> (you don't need the .tar to install it)
[09:54] <ForgeAus> theres a .deb for it
[09:54] <jgoss> i mean kmenu add/remove programs
[09:54] <jgoss> oops
[09:54] <ryks> yes?
[09:55] <ForgeAus> (you may need the universe or multiverse repository enabled tho)
[09:55] <ForgeAus> !xine
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <Delco> ForgeAus. back it up while you can. then call tech support for a new one
[09:55] <ryks> a little dificoult to me
[09:55] <ryks> sorry my bed english
[09:55] <ryks> :)
[09:55] <ForgeAus> um.. Delco?? me??
[09:55] <ForgeAus> I think you mean dug
[09:55] <MajorApus> how do I give myself access to mounted drives?
[09:56] <ForgeAus> MajorApus, you browse to them
[09:56] <Delco> my bad, right you are ForgeAus
[09:56] <MajorApus> access denied
[09:56] <ForgeAus> do you know where its mounted under?
[09:56] <dug> i doubt highly its bad, im going threw some of the settings in this distro, i dual boot and windows gives me no problems what so ever
[09:56] <StepNjump> StephZ sorry.. .just saw  your message. Was looking at the shell there... I'm from Canada originally but since my wife is American, we are now in Missouri
[09:56] <ForgeAus> normally its /mnt/<devicename> or /media/<devicename>
[09:56] <MajorApus> Please dont assume Im an idiot, when I say access I mean access, not find
[09:56] <stephZ> step: ok cool/france here
[09:56] <StepNjump> My sister in law is really hyped up about Linux.
[09:57] <ForgeAus> you mean permissions?
[09:57] <StepNjump> Oh really
[09:57] <MajorApus> yes
[09:57] <StepNjump> Vous parlez bien Franais. Moi je suis Qubcois.
[09:57] <ForgeAus> ok if its in fstab, and its mounted with default as the flag, try changing it to user
[09:57] <StepNjump> My ancesters used to be French too :)
[09:57] <ForgeAus> either that or you may need to chmod files
[09:57] <stephZ> step: damned we could have talked in french :D
[09:57] <StepNjump> In the Louis XIV days
[09:58] <stephZ> step : lol
[09:58] <MajorApus> whats the command to see my user id
[09:58] <StepNjump> LOL bien oui, pourquoi se compliquer la vie quand c'est pourtant si simple n'est-ce pas?
[09:58] <ForgeAus> you don't change it to a user id.. the literal word "user"
[09:58] <StepNjump> J'utilise le clavier french canadian
[09:58] <ForgeAus> instead of "default"
[09:58] <StepNjump> C'est quoi ton nom de famille?
[09:58] <stephZ> step : il faut qu'y aille / a bientot j'espere
[09:58] <StepNjump> Qui commence par Z?
[09:59] <MajorApus>  /dev/sdb3 /mount/data2 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[09:59] <formatter> everyone..where i can get kwlan..
[09:59] <StepNjump> Ah d'accord. Merci encore pour tout Stephane!
[09:59] <stephZ> step: i don't think it's polite to speak in french here :D
[09:59] <jgoss> MajorApus:  you can type id and that will tell you
[09:59] <ForgeAus> um nouser?
[09:59] <StepNjump> Salutation  la m
[09:59] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure what all those flags mean,
[09:59] <StepNjump> Salutations a la mere patrie
[09:59] <StepNjump> Bonne journe mon ami
[09:59] <ForgeAus> most of them are not necessary...
[09:59] <stephZ> step: Z is just a nickname/ i will tell her / if you want to write : polariscorp@free.fr
[10:00] <MajorApus> most of them, oh wait, all of them, were added by the mount utility, so take it up with him
[10:00] <benji> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <ForgeAus> I would try commenting out that line and using a new one /dev/sdb3 /mount/data2 auto user,rw 0 0
[10:00] <stephZ> step : bye
[10:01] <StepNjump> Ok merci pour ton email Steph. Yes, let's keep in touch.
[10:01] <StepNjump> Bye bye. Bonne journe
[10:01] <ryks> is not in add/remove
[10:01] <ryks> the xine player
[10:01] <noman> any email
[10:01] <noman> girls
[10:02] <ryks> so how can i instal the player?
[10:02] <jgoss> ryks: make sure the check box unsupported is checked on the right hand side then search for it
[10:02] <ryks> in ubuntu?
[10:03] <ryks> are you sure?
[10:03] <jgoss> ryks: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:03] <ryks> very very new in linux
[10:03] <ryks> sorry
[10:03] <ryks> don t understand
[10:03] <ryks> kubuntu
[10:03] <ryks> sorry
[10:04] <ryks> need a player for dvix and mp3 in linux
[10:04] <ryks> but is missing
[10:05] <ForgeAus> ryks check out vlc
[10:05] <ForgeAus> (videolan player)
[10:05] <formatter> my kubuntu always crash when i run wine, why?
[10:05] <ForgeAus> !vlc
[10:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:05] <ryks> aha
[10:05] <ryks> not here
[10:05] <ryks> in multimedia?
[10:05] <ForgeAus> uh? wheres here?
[10:05] <formatter> ryks: use xmms for mp3 and kafein for dvix
[10:06] <ryks> k
[10:06] <ForgeAus> and yes it should show up in your kmenu under the multimedia secion ONCE its installed
[10:06] <ryks> xmms missing from multimedia
[10:06] <ForgeAus> yeah what formatter says sounds reasonable...
[10:06] <ryks> but kaffeine is
[10:06] <ForgeAus> ok well xmms you can install
[10:07] <ryks> how?
[10:07] <ForgeAus> ryks you can get it in Adept (the package manager)
[10:07] <StepNjump> Good night everyone. Thanks again guys.
[10:07] <ryks> aham
[10:07] <jgoss> ryks: at the top left you should see show: checkbox unsupported. make sure that checkbox is marked :)
[10:07] <StepNjump> 3AM here
[10:07] <jgoss> good night StepNjump
[10:07] <StepNjump> night Jgoss
[10:07] <ryks> k
[10:07] <ForgeAus> under the kmenu theres add/remove programs but its probably better if you can learn a slightly more advanced version the package management (in the I think its system menu of kmenu)
[10:08] <ForgeAus> they have a very similar icon of a yellowish open box)
[10:08] <jgoss> ryks: amarok can play mp3's just install the xine extra plugins under multimedia.
[10:08] <ryks> k im in adept
[10:09] <Benji> !clean room
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clean room - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ForgeAus> hehe theres several options, all those apps/plugins area available in Adept, depending on the repositories you have in your sources.list file
[10:09] <ryks> aham
[10:09] <jager> moo
[10:09] <ForgeAus> (you can edit that by the manage repositories menu item in Adept)
[10:10] <ForgeAus> for more info there (mostly just to add universe and/or multiverse repositories) theres a web page
[10:10] <ForgeAus> !multiverse
[10:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:10] <RawSewage> after a clean install, can you install libxine-extracodeds without changing the repos
[10:10] <RawSewage> without changing to multiverse
[10:10] <RawSewage> in Feisty
[10:11] <jager> yes
[10:11] <RawSewage> so Feisty has multiverse enabled automatically now
[10:12] <ryks> have a page called adminnistrator adept
[10:12] <ryks> frome here can i instal xine?
[10:15] <sito> hellow my brthers!!
[10:15] <jager> herro
[10:18] <htrednek> Hey all... I just upgraded to Feisty.  Can someone explain what happened to the manage repository section of adept?
[10:20] <markey> heya
[10:20] <ForgeAus> um htrednek I havn't gone feisty yet, but theres always editing the sources.list manually
[10:21] <markey> anyone know how to disable the screen blanking after 10 mins?
[10:21] <markey> disabling it permanently
[10:21] <ForgeAus> can't quite remember if its in /etc/apt/ or /var/apt ...
[10:22] <ForgeAus> its just a text file but you need root priveleges to edit it (so use sudo or kdesu if its a gui program to edit it)
[10:22] <ForgeAus> and of course your favourite text editor
[10:22] <Kazade_> Cant you just go to system settings -> Monitor & Display -> Power Saving and disable it there?
[10:22] <htrednek> yeah, I guess I can do that.  It just caught me off guard.
[10:22] <ForgeAus> (ie kedsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list )
[10:22] <ForgeAus> yeah I can understand why
[10:23] <htrednek> I'm used to just uncommenting a line or two, and now the whole list is gone from the gui.
[10:23] <markey> Kazade_: nope, there you can just disable the power off time, not the screen blanking
[10:23] <markey> screen blanking is stupid, it doesn't save any power
[10:23] <boyke> good afternoon everyone
[10:23] <ForgeAus> perhaps feisty uses its repositories differently?
[10:23] <ForgeAus> just to be safe you might want to check out what ubuntu's html docs say about it
[10:24] <ForgeAus> !repositories
[10:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:24] <boyke> i cannot start my firefox because error when installing plugin
[10:24] <ForgeAus> or ask the people at #ubuntu+1 ??
[10:24] <boyke> what should i do
[10:25] <ForgeAus> (although technically the +1 would refer to gutsy um.. I think its goat?... or something)
[10:25] <ForgeAus> boyke, ouch...
[10:25] <boyke> help me please
[10:26] <boyke> i cannot start my firefox because error when installing plugin
[10:26] <boyke> help me please
[10:28] <ForgeAus> boyke if I knew I'd say so... sorry...
[10:30] <xavito> Guys I have problems with ubuntu restricted extras and dependencys, something is broken and I can't uninstall it... some help please ?
[10:30] <_4strO> xavito: yeqs
[10:31] <_4strO> xavito: what is the error message ?
[10:31] <Filthpig> boyke: what is the problem exactly? What plugin? Did FF work before you tried to install that plugin?
[10:31] <xavito> _4strO, ubuntu-restricted-extras: Depends: sun-java6-plugin but it is not going to be installed
[10:32] <xavito> _4strO, I tryed to install the whole java thing and I get errors in dependencies...
[10:34] <boyke> color tab
[10:36] <boyke> i cannot start my firefox because error when installing plugin
[10:36] <boyke> help me please
[10:36] <_4strO> xavito: can you paste the entire message ?
[10:37] <_4strO> (with the packahe lis)
[10:37] <_4strO> (with the packahe list)
[10:37] <boyke> help me pleaseastro
[10:37] <Filthpig> boyke: hello? I asked you some questions
[10:37] <boyke> ya
[10:37] <Filthpig> answer them, heh
[10:37] <xavito> _4strO, ok... Just a sec, I'll past it on pastebin...
[10:37] <boyke> what question sorry
[10:37] <_4strO> ok
[10:38] <boyke> color tab plugin filth
[10:39] <xavito> _4strO, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/455575
[10:39] <boyke> can i just remove the plugin?
[10:39] <_4strO> boyke: ColorfulTabs 2.0.1 ?
[10:40] <_4strO> xavito: automatix2 ...
[10:40] <boyke> ya
[10:40] <boyke> thats what i mean
[10:40] <boyke> how can i fix this ?
[10:41] <xavito> _4strO, Yes, I also tryed to get it on so it maybe could get me java installed... but nope...
[10:41] <_4strO> boyke: no, you just dont give correct information, dont answer whenn someone ask you something ...
[10:41] <_4strO> we're not your dogs ...
[10:41] <_4strO> :p
[10:42] <_4strO> xavito: you had the pb before install automatix ?
[10:42] <boyke> sorry i from indonesia, my english is not really good
[10:42] <xavito> _4strO, yes, I had...
[10:42] <_4strO> boyke: i'm from france, and my english not so good too ,)
[10:42] <boyke> oh
[10:43] <boyke> so what should i do
[10:43] <boyke> i try to looking for the plugin but i havent found it
[10:44] <boyke> i forgot the plugin names its something about color tab
[10:44] <_4strO> boyke: no pb ;)
[10:45] <boyke> pb?
[10:45] <_4strO> xavito: dpkg -l | grep tango-icon-theme-common
[10:45] <_4strO> problem
[10:45] <boyke> oh
[10:45] <xavito> ok... just a sec _4strO
[10:46] <xavito> _4strO, nothing returned...
[10:46] <_4strO> boyke: kopnqueror ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:46] <_4strO> xavito: sudo apt-get tango-icon-theme-common
[10:46] <_4strO> xavito: sudo apt-get install tango-icon-theme-common
[10:46] <_4strO> sorry
[10:46] <xavito> no problem...
[10:47] <nino> hi
[10:47] <boyke> yes
[10:47] <_4strO> xavito: really, does it install the package ?
[10:47] <xavito> _4strO, another big error just like the first one... want to see the output ?
[10:47] <_4strO> yes
[10:47] <nino> do i need to download firefox from the internet to install in feisty?
[10:48] <_4strO> nino: no
[10:48] <nino> i dont see it in adept
[10:48] <boyke> what should i do then?
[10:49] <nino> do i need to ad sources for firefox then?
[10:49] <_4strO> boyke: did you see a file like colortab ...
[10:49] <boyke> no
[10:49] <boyke> i only see 2 files
[10:50] <boyke> flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[10:52] <_4strO> boyke: open a konsole and type firefox in it
[10:52] <_4strO> you will have an error message
[10:53] <boyke> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:53] <GuHHH> can someone please give me the libapache-mod-php5 package?
[10:53] <_4strO> xavito: you're under ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[10:54] <_4strO> nino: sudo apt-cache search firefox
[10:54] <xavito> _4strO, under Kubuntu 7.04 that's why I'm here...
[10:54] <_4strO> xavito: ubuntu-restricted-extras seems to be for ubuntu that's why i ask :p
[10:54] <nino> thnx!
[10:55] <praecox> hey guys
[10:55] <_4strO> nino: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:55] <praecox> anyone familiar with ALSA on Kubuntu?
[10:55] <_4strO> (to install it)
[10:55] <boyke> i think its not a plugin but its an extension
[10:55] <praecox> my sound is very quiet here...
[10:55] <xavito> _4strO, ohhh :| I didn't expect that... are there any kubuntu-restricted-extras :S ?
[10:55] <_4strO> boyke: you're right
[10:56] <Gabz> ubuntu-restircted-extras works fine in kubuntu
[10:56] <alexicon> hiya
[10:56] <alexicon> can someone tell me the best way to get java runtime env for the web browser?
[10:56] <nino> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:56] <nino> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:56] <nino> is only available from another source
[10:56] <Gabz> there is no kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:56] <_4strO> xavito: i just tryed but seems no
[10:56] <_4strO> Gabz: http://pastebin.ca/455575
[10:57] <xavito> I really think the problem is with java... everytime I try to install something I get the same error...
[10:57] <_4strO> whenn he try to install the package
[10:58] <Gabz> _4strO: yep all you do is  do as it says " apt-get -f install"
[10:58] <boyke> i think i found a way to fix it
[10:58] <_4strO> boyke: in .mozilla/firefox/ you have a directory like rfghrg24fsdsdf.defaut
[10:58] <alexicon> is there a java package for web browsers in apt??
[10:58] <boyke> asto its already been fix
[10:58] <Gabz> his problem isn't ubuntu-restricted extras it's automatrix 2 is for ubuntu not kubuntu
[10:58] <boyke> i just run my firefox in safe mode
[10:58] <_4strO> boyke: :)
[10:59] <boyke> and disable all the extensions
[10:59] <boyke> thanks
[10:59] <_4strO> boyke: you did it :)
[10:59] <boyke> ya at last :)
[10:59] <Gabz> alexicon: yes
[10:59] <alexicon> whats that Gabz
[11:00] <Gabz> alexicon: you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras which will include java 6 ... or search for java in adept
[11:00] <alexicon> hrm
[11:01] <_4strO> sun-java6-plugin
[11:02] <alexicon> guess thats what you were talkin bout earlier, cant find ubuntu-restricted-extras on apt
[11:02] <alexicon> sun java6...
[11:02] <alexicon> i hate sun
[11:02] <alexicon> ive already got java installed, keep having to update this crap
[11:03] <_4strO> lol
[11:03] <Gabz> alexicon: make sure you have multiverse and universe enabled
[11:03] <alexicon> yeah been there... *sighs*
[11:04] <Gabz> xavito: did sudo apt-get -f install fix your problem ?
[11:05] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. How do I open archives that are password-encrypted in Ark?
[11:05] <xavito> Gabz: That would make me install python 2.4 and I'm running 2.5 by default isen't it ?
[11:06] <hoppy> Hi all, had trouble getting wifi broadcom 4138 working with edgy if I upgrade to Feisty will it cause problems? Ta.
[11:06] <Gabz> xavito: the problem you have is because you isntalled automatrix2 you can either fix the dependances it needs or uninstall automatrix 2
[11:06] <Shaddox> How do I open a password-protected archive in Ark?
[11:07] <Gabz> xavito: sorry automatix2
[11:07] <xavito> Gabz: but won't that wrek my system ? I mean... how will automatix2 work without the dependencies ?
[11:08] <Gabz> xavito:  well automatix2 can't work without it's dependences you fix that by in konsole sudo apt-get -f install
[11:10] <darren> anyone got win xp  running in qemu ?
[11:10] <_pedro> Hi everyone!
[11:10] <_pedro> what was the page to paste several lines of text and not to do it here?
[11:11] <flaccid> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:11] <Gabz> xavito: i have to go you probably should   uninstall automatix2 then apt-get -f install to fix your java plugin problem then install automatix 2 again
[11:11] <_pedro> that's it
[11:11] <flaccid> get rid of automatix
[11:11] <xavito> ok... thanks Gabz :D
[11:11] <mastacreashun> hey people
[11:12] <_pedro> Well, It was only to ask a question
[11:12] <_pedro> I am now upgrading from Kubuntu edgy to feisty
[11:13] <Kite_DH> hey guys, my question is: why does my java in firefox not work?
[11:13] <Kite_DH> how to activate it
[11:13] <_pedro> The process is still in progress but I am seeing in the console a message that I don't like very much
[11:13] <_pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1142808842
[11:13] <_pedro> Is there a problem with that?
[11:14] <flaccid> the mdadm one is not
[11:14] <flaccid> the whole thing is fine
[11:14] <flaccid> its just trying to cp files that you don't have. its for if you had it set up before
[11:15] <flaccid> and you don't have mdadm config coz you probably don't use raid or whatever
[11:15] <_pedro> so it doesn't matter
[11:15] <flaccid> nope
[11:15] <_pedro> thanks
[11:15] <flaccid> i would of had the same thing when i did the upgrade
[11:15] <_pedro> certainly I am not pacient
[11:15] <dark> how i can change kubuntu langue?
[11:15] <_pedro> I should wait until the progress is over to ask
[11:16] <_4strO> dar
[11:16] <flaccid> if there was an error that is bad it should exit from that point with an error level
[11:16] <_4strO> dark: systeme settings
[11:16] <_pedro> When it is finish I have some doubts about beryl
[11:17] <_pedro> until now, with edgy, I used nvidia driver beta and beryl from repositories
[11:17] <_pedro> with the upgrade and the new alliance between beryl and compiz
[11:17] <dark> _4strO: but i dont see my langu there
[11:17] <_pedro> How will be the issue?
[11:18] <dark> _4strO: it show that my langue is instaled there but i cant choise it from the list :(
[11:20] <_4strO> dark: what is your language ?
[11:21] <dark> _4strO: polish
[11:22] <_4strO> dark: dpkg -l | grep kde-i18n-pl
[11:23] <hoppy> DarkED: use adept to add kde-i18n-pl package then try system setting again
[11:23] <_4strO> dark: is there giving you a line of result ?
[11:23] <dark> _4strO: no
[11:24] <DarkED> hmm, what's that package supposed to fix again? ;)
[11:24] <_4strO> dark: sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-pl
[11:25] <_4strO> DarkED: think it was a mistake, the message warent for you
[11:25] <_4strO> werent
[11:26] <_4strO> dark: then after installation you will able to chose the right language
[11:27] <hoppy> DarkED: sorry message was for dark
[11:29] <johnt> !logs
[11:29] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[11:29] <dark> _4strO: and i have problem with monitor
[11:29] <dark> _4strO: its weaving
[11:30] <dark> _4strO: the screen is shakeing
[11:30] <dark> _4strO: you know what i mean ?
[11:30] <CrazyRobot> hello
[11:30] <dark> _4strO: something wrong with refreshing :/
[11:30] <dark> _4strO: and it is blured
[11:31] <Cosmoboy> hi everyone!
[11:32] <johnt> hi
[11:32] <Cosmoboy> i've got a problem with podcast :/
[11:33] <Cosmoboy> itunes podcast
[11:33] <_4strO> dark: did you try to change the refreshing rate ?
[11:33] <vespero> my kde don't automount usb disk ntfs
[11:34] <Sogen> _4strO: yes
[11:34] <Sogen> _4strO: and still same problem
[11:34] <Sogen> _4strO: on gnome it was working good
[11:34] <_4strO> weird
 is it just kde that does the screen thing?
[11:35] <Sogen> yes
 Hmnn weird!!
[11:36] <Sogen> :(
[11:36] <_4strO> Sogen: you have both ubuntu and kubuntu on the same HD ?
[11:36] <_4strO> Sogen: or in two different partition
[11:37] <Sogen> same
[11:37] <Sogen> i have ubuntu
[11:37] <Sogen> but i instaled kde
[11:37] <Sogen> for my ubuntu
[11:37] <_4strO> Sogen: ok
[11:43] <RosCo> why does my mouse dissappear after using coupleminutes of using kubuntu
[11:45] <roconnor> How do I stop Kubuntu from automounting USB drives?
[11:47] <StephZ> roconnor : kcontrol -> search for USB -> then advance and uncheck options
[11:50] <jussi01> someone please tell me a good frontpage equivalent native to kde?
[11:50] <flaccid> !info qanta
[11:50] <ubotu> Package qanta does not exist in feisty
[11:50] <StephZ> jussi : have you tried nvu?
[11:50] <flaccid> !info nvu
[11:50] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in feisty
[11:51] <jussi01> I was hoping they would be in the repos...
[11:51] <StephZ> there is also kompozer
[11:51] <Sesshoumaru> someone tell me how to automatic connect to my wireless router without a password
[11:52] <flaccid> !wireless
[11:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:52] <roconnor> StephZ: Hmm, I disable medium application autostart after mount, but there doesn't seem to be an option for disabling the mounting itself.
[11:53] <tolonuga> can someone recommend a wifi mini pci card with a very well working and 100% open source driver? the card I currently have neeeds ndiswrapper and I want to get rid of it.
[11:53] <StephZ> reconnor : this is in hald i think
[11:54] <StephZ> roconnor : sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop
[11:54] <roconnor> StephZ: :) seems a bit heavy handed
[11:55] <StephZ> roconnor :D
[11:56] <johnt> !sleep
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <hellblade> hi. do you know how can I activate the new icon launch effect in feisty? I upgraded from edgy but it doesn't work
[11:58] <Toyd> install kiba-dock
[12:02] <hellblade> can't find it in aptitude. isn't kiba dock a different panel app? I don't want that. I want the new kubuntu launch effect (icon zoom when I click an icon)
[12:05] <StephZ> hell : did you try in kcontrol > icons > animated icons ?
[12:06] <ForgeAus> moment of truth
[12:06] <ForgeAus> checking my LiveCD ISO of feisty
[12:07] <hellblade> StephZ> yes but that's not it:(
[12:13] <RosCo> how do i get this mouse to work
[12:13] <RosCo> ?
[12:13] <RosCo> only laptops tabmouse works
[12:13] <hellblade> which mouse?
[12:13] <RosCo> usb
[12:13] <hellblade> plug 'n play should work
[12:13] <hellblade> what doesn't?
[12:14] <RosCo> ?
[12:14] <RosCo> lets try
[12:14] <FeistyForge> nice artwork for kubuntu :)
[12:15] <hellblade> what does lsusb outputs?
[12:15] <FeistyForge> its got a nice neon-style logo  now :)
[12:15] <RosCo> isusb?
[12:15] <StephZ> LSUSB (lowercase)
[12:18] <RosCo> where is lsusb
[12:18] <hellblade> open a konsole windows and after pluging your mouse type "lsusb"
[12:18] <hellblade> *window
[12:19] <FeistyForge> oooh ARTS is causing a minor crash when it starts up but aside from that its working nicely
[12:19] <tmbg> try whereis lsusb ;)
[12:20] <RosCo> it says its on device 003?
[12:20] <RosCo> bus001 device 003
[12:21] <darren> how do you reboot qemu ?
[12:21] <FeistyForge> darren just a guess... control alt insert? maybe? if not check google
[12:22] <hellblade> i cant really help you right now cause i gtg, but if you can't make it work from the help in here i'd suggest you to search goole for a howto and/or post in ubuntuforums
[12:23] <hellblade> bb peeps. have a nice day
[12:23] <RosCo> thans
[12:23] <RosCo> k
[12:30] <ForgeAus> wow I should quit here
[12:30] <ForgeAus> or there
[12:30] <ForgeAus> hehe one forge is enough!
[12:30] <FeistyForge> its like talking to myself only weirder
[12:32] <debian> hiya
[12:32] <kerric> hi there
[12:32] <debian> hi
[12:32] <kerric> can any one help me with installing wide screen?
[12:33] <debian> only kubuntu usr?
[12:33] <kerric> i had allready typed apt-get install 915resolution
[12:33] <kerric> and still i can't set 1280x800
[12:33] <kerric> kerric@karolek:~$ apt-cache search 915resolution
[12:33] <kerric> 915resolution - resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset
[12:33] <sylvisj> kerric: may want to restart your pc.
[12:33] <StephZ> kerric did you try a sudo apt-reconfigure your xserver ?
[12:34] <sylvisj> kerric: I had to do so in order to get X to see the new resolutions.
[12:34] <blackjack> sorry..
[12:34] <blackjack> i have istalled kubuntu festy
[12:34] <blackjack> i have istalled kubuntu feisty
[12:34] <kerric> ok, so, i'll try restart
[12:34] <kerric> thx
[12:34] <debian> lots of problems kubuntu festy
[12:35] <blackjack> it connect to internet but konqueror don't open internet pages...!!
[12:35] <debian> cudnt install korean locale yet
[12:35] <blackjack> how i can do..??
[12:35] <debian> does anybody know abt "usplash" err?
[12:36] <StephZ> black>did it works with firefox?
[12:36] <blackjack> is not istalled..!
[12:36] <StephZ> and if you ping a wesite does it work ?
[12:36] <blackjack> and i haven't any cd's!
[12:37] <blackjack> yes ping run...
[12:37] <debian> stephz yes ,,, networking had no problem
[12:37] <blackjack> also irc...!
[12:37] <blackjack> now i'm connect..!!
[12:37] <StephZ> black : oh ok/ it's only a konqueror pb then ?
[12:37] <blackjack> yes...!!
[12:38] <RosCo> where can i find plug n play files?
[12:38] <xavito> Hey guys, anyone knows any application to correct errors on my harddrive ? Everytime I boot it tells me the filesystem is NOT clean... help please ?
[12:38] <debian> looking for MSN client on kubuntu,,, has any info?
[12:39] <blackjack> do you think debian etch 4.0 is better then kubuntu feisty???
[12:39] <StephZ> debian -> kopete
[12:39] <debian> kopete?
[12:39] <debian> a chat client?
[12:39] <xavito> get aMSN 0.97 it's available to feisty now :D and it rocks
[12:39] <StephZ> xavito -> fsck
[12:39] <debian> aMSN...
[12:39] <xavito> thanks StephZ :D
[12:39] <debian> availble on apt-get
[12:40] <StephZ> honnestly i prefer kopete
[12:40] <debian> ahha..
[12:40] <StephZ> (you can IRC,.... at the same time )
[12:40] <debian> both kopete and aMSN....
[12:40] <debian> k, i'll try get
[12:40] <blackjack> do you think debian etch 4.0 is better then kubuntu feisty???
[12:40] <blackjack> ...?
[12:41] <jay__> How do you resume a download with bittorrent if the client closed accidentally?
[12:42] <debian> thanx xavito...
[12:42] <debian> installed aMSN
[12:43] <xavito> no prob debian :)
[12:44] <xavito> amsn has very nice features and you should get some plugins debian ! get them on amsn.sf.net on the plugins page
[12:51] <debian> blackjack...
[12:51] <debian> were u there?
[01:00] <blackjack> ...
[01:01] <blackjack> i'm here..!
[01:01] <debian> did u recommand me somethin?
[01:01] <debian> debian 4.0?
[01:01] <debian> ubuntu etch 4.0... right?
[01:02] <debian> im using kubuntu 7.04 on my laptop
[01:02] <debian> ?
[01:02] <blackjack> debian etch 4.0 or kubuntu feisty...!!
[01:03] <blackjack> i have to use for 3d...maya renderman..:!!
[01:03] <debian> kubuntu feisty... now
[01:03] <debian> ver. 7.04
[01:03] <blackjack> yes..!
[01:03] <debian> but helpless to my laptop
[01:04] <robbbbbb> whats the difference between sudo and sudo su? :)
[01:04] <debian> sudo... super user
[01:05] <debian> #sudo su -
[01:05] <debian> and enter password
[01:05] <crazy_bus> I would like to listen to a audiobook off one of the many payforsites on the internet.  However all the ones I've seen require the use of itunes or a special player in order to use their drm.  Is there anyway to get a linux player to play there or is there a shop with audio with no drm?
[01:05] <debian> then u can log on root
[01:06] <StephZ> debian : just >su and you can log as root
[01:06] <debian> no
[01:06] <debian> su -
[01:06] <StephZ> sudo is for a single action as root
[01:08] <robbbbbb> ahh
[01:08] <robbbbbb> oki thanks :)
[01:09] <chijin> crazy_bus: i'd rather look for a shop with no drm, than look for a player that understands drm
[01:12] <blenheim> I have kinda problems installing feisty fawn...
[01:12] <darren> dam it  my winxp keeps jamming  in qemu
[01:13] <StephZ> blen : what kind of pb?
[01:14] <blenheim> When i try to run it from cd it jams and won't go on. It doesn't even start X...
[01:14] <blenheim> and I tried to update it straight with adept and x stopped working...
[01:15] <StephZ> you tried update with a live cd ?
[01:15] <blenheim> kubuntu 7.04 desktop i386 cd image
[01:16] <darren> DOES ANYONE SEE MY TEXT ?
[01:16] <blenheim> yep
[01:16] <StephZ> you should try to reconfigure your xserver
[01:16] <blenheim> hmm
[01:16] <darren> me?
[01:17] <blenheim> where could i found documentation for how to conf xserver from scratch
[01:18] <StephZ> you just type in a konsole : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <blenheim> ok
[01:20] <blenheim> as you can quess i'm not so familiar with these things... but whole life time to learn
[01:20] <StephZ> blen : everyone has started one day
[01:20] <blenheim> True
[01:21] <StephZ> just a question : did the fesity install was ok or not ?
[01:22] <blenheim> It seemed to be ok, no a single errorwindow
[01:22] <StephZ> and the xserver went black after reboot
[01:23] <blenheim> it just won't start xserver if trying and it gives you just plain console
[01:23] <blenheim> when started
[01:23] <StephZ> what's your videocard?
[01:23] <blenheim> Ati 9250
[01:23] <blenheim> radeon
[01:24] <blenheim> makes things simple...
[01:28] <StephZ> did you try dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:28] <boyke> hallo
[01:28] <blenheim> nope, lost my nerves and installed 6.10 to other disk :)
[01:28] <boyke> can anybody help me how to chmod 75
[01:28] <blenheim> I've gotta try it when i reboot
[01:29] <_4strO> boyke: chmod --help
[01:29] <StephZ> ok goof lock belnheim
[01:29] <_4strO> !chmod
[01:29] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:29] <blenheim> StephZ: thanks, i need all that luck
[01:30] <_4strO> blenheim: you just made a fresh install of feisty?
[01:30] <blenheim> yep
[01:32] <boyke> i cannot find it how to chmod 775
[01:33] <James_Mc_Gregor> chmod 775 <file>
[01:33] <James_Mc_Gregor> sudo if file's owner is root
[01:35] <debian> hello again
[01:35] <debian> ...
[01:36] <robbbbbb> does someone know how to change the password of kwallet? :F
[01:36] <debian> anyone who knows adding locale?
[01:36] <debian> language...
[01:37] <_4strO> debian: search i18 in adept
[01:37] <debian> i18?
[01:37] <debian> k..
[01:37] <_4strO> blenheim: and whenn you boot the liveCD no pb ?
[01:38] <blenheim> no, when i try to boot the liveCD then it jams
[01:38] <blenheim> it won't go on
[01:38] <_4strO> :/
[01:38] <StephZ> debian : apt-get install kde-i18n-ko
[01:38] <_4strO> blenheim: when did you download your liveCD ?
[01:38] <blenheim> Yesterday
[01:38] <debian> oh
[01:38] <debian> i c
[01:39] <debian> kde-i18n-ko, for x-windows?
[01:39] <StephZ> debian : x-windows?
[01:40] <debian> i meant the fonts are KDE?
[01:40] <StephZ> yes
[01:40] <debian> thanx i'll try to get that
[01:41] <StephZ> then you have to change your language in kcontrol (and logout if i remember)
[01:42] <blenheim> _4strO: has there been some faulty live packages then?
[01:42] <debian> now installing
[01:42] <leleobhz> hello all!
[01:42] <leleobhz> how can i rum on kubuntu the proprietary hardware detection?
[01:42] <StephZ> blen : you should try with the alternate install cd
[01:42] <blenheim> Yeah, i figured it out that it might work
[01:42] <_4strO> blenheim: nop
[01:43] <debian> stephZ,,, what is the "usplash"?
[01:43] <debian> an err ocurred named "usplash"
[01:43] <rstanca> weird problem, after a reboot kdm wont let me log in, every time press enter it just restarts X server, found nothing in kdm.log messages or xorg.log
[01:43] <StephZ> debian : usplash is the logo you get when you boot
[01:44] <debian> grub splash?
[01:44] <StephZ> debian : after the grub
[01:44] <debian> ...?
[01:44] <StephZ> debian : usplash is the image you get after grub
[01:45] <StephZ> debian : so i consider your error as minor
[01:45] <_4strO> rstanca: did you install something particular ?
[01:45] <debian> y, i c
[01:45] <debian> no matter with the KDE language
[01:45] <rstanca> _4strO: no
[01:45] <leleobhz> noone know?
[01:46] <Murganhjga> yo ubuntu_
[01:46] <StephZ> leleohbez: this is in the ubuntu package i think
[01:47] <rstanca> aaaa crap, somthing in syslog Apr 24 14:43:25 kubuntu kdm_greet[5144] : Can't open default user face
[01:47] <rstanca> Apr 24 14:43:32 kubuntu kdm_greet[5144] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[01:47] <debian> successed to add a language... ^_^
[01:47] <debian> however, .,,,, -_-;
[01:47] <StephZ> debian : cool
[01:47] <debian> do u know the convert key?
[01:47] <StephZ> debian : the what?
[01:48] <debian> English to Korean ... convert
[01:48] <debian> keyboad
[01:48] <debian> shift+space like redhat?
[01:49] <StephZ> not sure about your request but you can try to launch gucharmap
[01:49] <debian> guchamap...
[01:49] <StephZ>   guchaRmap
[01:50] <debian> i c
[01:53] <rstanca> --reinstall kdm, then --purge kdm and install again, same :( what should i do next?
[01:54] <StephZ> rstanca : try install gdm ?
[01:54] <debian> thanx rstanca and stephz
[01:54] <rstanca> StephZ: funny :P
[01:54] <jarn> After installing to Feisty, X seems to be ignoring my Xorg.conf file.
[01:55] <jarn> I only have three resolutions enabled, and yet a lot of them show up when I type xrandr - and none of them is the one I want.
[01:55] <StephZ> rstanca: did you try dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[01:56] <rstanca> StephZ: yes
[01:56] <jarn> I want 1280x960@85 and the highest refresh rade it shows for that resolution is 1280x960@85
[01:56] <Hobbsee> jarn: er, reread?
[01:58] <pollyo> Hello
[01:58] <blenheim> hello
[01:58] <debian> hi blenheim
[01:58] <leleobhz> 09:02:12 < Xyc0> leleobhz: enable desktop effects and watch                                                                        _Lockee
[01:58] <leleobhz> how to do this in kubuntu
[02:00] <pollyo> Anyone know what the requirements of setting up a system to login over a network would be?
[02:00] <pollyo> I have an old machine with 64 megs of ram and wanted to use it to connect over the network to my main machine.  Would that work?
[02:01] <pestilence> pollyo: you can accomplish that with NIS
[02:01] <pollyo> I could use the applications on the main computer.
[02:01] <pollyo> pestilence: NIS?
[02:01] <pollyo> !nis
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <debian> kinda network sharing?
[02:01] <pestilence> pollyo: it allows you to share a password file over the network
[02:02] <debian> i also want to do that service
[02:02] <pestilence> or any other configuration file, for that matter
[02:02] <pollyo> pestilence: I want to run the application on the "main" computer or server and simply have an Xterminal login or share the computer?
[02:02] <debian> but haven't find yet
[02:02] <jarn> Hobbsee: ?
[02:02] <jarn> Hobbsee: What do you mean "reread"?
[02:02] <pollyo> I do not think that I could run a decent system on 64 megs of ram.
[02:02] <pestilence> pollyo: oh, well you could do that with X forwarding... ssh -X
[02:02] <Hobbsee> jarn: apparently you want the resolution you already have...
[02:02] <debian> 64mb... hmmm
[02:02] <pollyo> pestilence: What are the basics I would need for X forwarding.
[02:03] <pestilence> pollyo: X installed on both machines
[02:03] <pestilence> and ssh
[02:03] <debian> i guess 256mb
[02:03] <pestilence> e.g.  ssh -X machine2
[02:03] <pestilence> then type "xterm"
[02:03] <debian> startx ... cant got into x?
[02:04] <jarn> Hobbsee: Yes, but I want a higher refresh rate.
[02:04] <pollyo> pestilence: If it was on my own network would I need ssh?
[02:04] <jarn> Hobbsee: I want 85 and X will only let me use 54, even though 85 is in my conf file.
[02:04] <pestilence> pollyo: it's the easiest and most secure way, and unless your machines are rediculously slow it will work great.
[02:04] <pollyo> pestilence: Ok
[02:05] <pollyo> pestilence: I'll look into it.  Is there a distribution that would work best on such a low amount of ram?  Would that be a thin client?
[02:05] <StephZ> pollyo ->a minimal install of k/ubuntu + icewm will be great
[02:06] <pestilence> pollyo: or xubuntu
[02:06] <Hobbsee> jarn: ahh.  you didnt say that :P
[02:06] <pollyo> pestilence: What does xubuntu install for the windows system?
[02:06] <pestilence> pollyo: actually, if you are gonna go with icewm, i would suggest using the server/minimal install disk and then installing icewm
[02:06] <debian> first heard of xubuntu....-_-
[02:06] <pestilence> pollyo: xubuntu installs the XFCE desktop, which you will find is quite nice.
[02:06] <StephZ> i have xubuntu 128mo and it's a bit slow
[02:07] <pollyo> I'll have to look into both icewm and xfce
[02:07] <bosnix> hi everyone. i just installed kubuntu 7.04 earlier today and I'm trying to figure out how to get those cool 3D desktop efffects going. I installed a couple of baryl related packages I found in the add/remove apps but I dont know what more needs to be done. any tips?
[02:07] <pollyo> The server ubuntu installs the minimum system?
[02:07] <pestilence> pollyo: yes.
[02:07] <StephZ> pollyo : yes
[02:08] <pollyo> Ok.
[02:08] <pollyo> I guess I'll start with that.
[02:08] <pestilence> pollyo: use that, then apt-get install icewm....that will require minimal resources
[02:08] <pollyo> pestilence: Is icewm less resource hungery in comparison to XFCE?
[02:08] <pestilence> pollyo: yes
[02:08] <pollyo> Ok. Thank you
[02:09] <pestilence> pollyo: or fluxbox.  i personally prefer fluxbox.
[02:09] <ForgeAus> fluxbox is nice and simple
[02:09] <rstanca> StephZ: _4strO: found the issue, /home was 100% full :D thanks for your help
[02:09] <ForgeAus> gives a professional feel to it somehow too
[02:09] <ForgeAus> WindowMaker isn't too bad either
[02:09] <StephZ> rstanca : cool / it happened to me once ....
[02:10] <pollyo> Is there a package that will install a login over network and X windows application?
[02:10] <pollyo> Without all the extras that will not be needed?
[02:10] <pestilence> pollyo: if you install icewm, it will install X.  then install ssh-server on the remote machine, and you will be set.
[02:11] <debian> have to reboot
[02:11] <debian> come again
[02:11] <pestilence> you may also want to look into NX
[02:11] <pollyo> pestilence: Ok.  I'm already set with the ssh server.
[02:11] <pestilence> but that is more complicated
[02:12] <pollyo> pestilence: Ok.  I'll start with the server ubuntu and icewm.
[02:12] <pollyo> Thank you all for the suggestions.
[02:12] <orak3l> why is there no documentation in eclipse? i ve installed all from repositorys :(
[02:12] <pollyo> Now to download the server cd.
[02:13] <StephZ> leleobhz : still here?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> orak3l: man eclipse?
[02:14] <jarn> Hobbsee: Yes, I did say that.
[02:15] <jarn> Hobbsee: Oh wait, I did but I typoed. :P
[02:15] <pollyo> They have an option for computers with less than 256 meg of ram anyone familiar with that?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> jarn: heh, yes :D
[02:16] <pollyo> The download page doesn't appear to support torrents.
[02:17] <Hobbsee> pollyo: should do.  they must be harder to find...
[02:18] <pollyo> I'm downloading ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[02:18] <Hobbsee> pollyo: oh.  pick your mirror first, then pick the torrent
[02:19] <pollyo> Hobbsee: Where would I find the torrent?  It appears to be simply downoading from ftp or http on the ubuntu site.  Doe they have a link for torrents on ubuntu's site?
[02:19] <Ahmadinejad> aldin:
[02:19] <Hobbsee> pollyo: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:19] <Hobbsee> pollyo: pick your location first
[02:20] <aldin> Ahmadinejad, say
[02:20] <StephZ> pollyo : what do you want to download?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> [22:18]  <pollyo> I'm downloading ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[02:20] <pollyo> StephZ: The server version.
[02:20] <StephZ> ok
[02:20] <humbolto> which player could I use as an alternative to playing system sounds through arts? aplay does not seem to support OGG.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> alsa?
[02:20] <pollyo> The standard download is slow I was looking to see if there was a torrent download.  I'm going to check out that kubuntu download page.
[02:21] <Ahmadinejad> aldin: Join: #PM-aldin
[02:21] <Ahmadinejad> /J #PM-aldin
[02:21] <blenheim> there should be torrent file for that
[02:21] <Ahmadinejad> for pm
[02:21] <Ahmadinejad> for i cant pm people on this server
[02:22] <ForgeAus> get kubuntu isntead! :) its nicer :) imho
[02:22] <humbolto> Hobbsee: alsa is the sound card driver. ARTS uses alsa. aplay uses ALSA. but ALSA by itself does not support any decoding (neither mp3 nor OGG)
[02:22] <ForgeAus> (okok well its the same just kde instead of gnome, but most people here know that
[02:22] <humbolto> how can I play my file through gstreamer?
[02:22] <humbolto> is there a console way?
[02:23] <pollyo> What is the difference between the server version and the alternate install?
[02:23] <Hobbsee> humbolto: er, good point
[02:23] <ForgeAus> humbolto, does: gstreamer filename work?
[02:23] <humbolto> ForgeAus: there is not gstreamer command
[02:23] <StephZ> server :for server / alternate comes with direct intall (no livecd, OEM install)
[02:24] <StephZ> it depends what you want
[02:24] <ForgeAus> ok some audio player apps have a console, in there you can probably do media commands, also check adept for gstreamer to see if theres a curses/ncurses (ala cli) tool for it
[02:24] <orak3l> is it possible to pick servers from a list like in mIRC with konversation?
[02:24] <ForgeAus> other than that its unlikely
[02:25] <ForgeAus> orak, you kinda have to build it but yes
[02:25] <ForgeAus> the initial window that opens is a server window you can select the server from
[02:25] <ForgeAus> and connect, so that works like mirc's server list
[02:25] <ForgeAus> but you ahve to build it manually
[02:25] <ForgeAus> (ie add servers to it)
[02:26] <ForgeAus> unless theres a file it saves it to somewhere... I havn't gone looking for one
[02:26] <ForgeAus> (but I highly doubt if there is that it would be called servers.ini :) lol
[02:27] <ForgeAus> you could always copy paste individual entries of a downloaded servers.ini from mirc anyway (its just a text file)
[02:27] <pollyo> BBL
[02:27] <ForgeAus> or you could browse the web to discover some irc servers that may not even be on the list!
[02:28] <ForgeAus> (servers.ini is in no way a definitive list of all existent irc servers)
[02:40] <humbolto> I want to use "gst-launch playbin uri=file:///uri" to play my system notifications. what is the %xy var for the file uri?
[02:42] <icecruncher> !Java
[02:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:46] <koriel> I have a laptop and when booting grup freezed in grub loading, please wait...so I'm booting from a rescue cd and I got a buffer I/O on device sda logical block 1,2,3 ..etc..the hd led is always on...is my hd dead?
[02:46] <mrcreativity> im having a serious problems with my video display
[02:47] <mrcreativity> after the kbuntu splash screen, everything comes up garbled
[02:47] <mrcreativity> is there anything i can do
[02:47] <mrcreativity> can anyone help me out?
[02:47] <mrcreativity> i have an nvdia 6600 gt card
[02:48] <mrcreativity> please someone
[02:50] <tibbar> can some one help me fix this error "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". Im using kubuntu 7.04
[02:51] <koriel> u need some packages
[02:52] <tibbar> what packages?
[02:52] <koriel> 7.04..is it a stable release?
[02:54] <mc__> koriel: yes it is
[02:54] <Gabz> mrcreativity: which driver are you useing ?
[02:55] <koriel> mc__: check libc6-dev-i386
[02:56] <koriel> and libc6-i386 too
[02:56] <tibbar> koriel: I think so came out past friday
[02:57] <tibbar> koriel: I get this error when I try compile wine, if that helps
[02:58] <koriel> tibbar: yeah, I remember reading it in the ubuntu forums
[02:59] <mc__> koriel: why?
[02:59] <koriel> mc__: what u mean?
[02:59] <mc__> koriel: you said i should check libc6-dev-i386
[02:59] <koriel> check if you have it...
[02:59] <JuJuBee> How can I debug why sendmail is not working?
[02:59] <koriel> if not sudo apt-get it
[03:00] <koriel> JuJuBee: tail -f /var/log/mail.err
[03:00] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[03:00] <koriel> probably is the hostname issue
[03:00] <koriel> anyway got to go buy a new hard disk...there goes 200 euros...stupid computers
[03:01] <JuJuBee> koriel : nothing shows up when I use a php mail function...  I thought php mail used sendmail?
[03:02] <koriel> stupid question but is sendmail running?
[03:02] <koriel> also check /var/log/mail.log
[03:02] <koriel> you may have usefull messages ther
[03:02] <koriel> e
[03:03] <JuJuBee> My bad, looks like sendmail not running.
[03:04] <JuJuBee> Whish those needles weren't so damn small...
[03:09] <darren> anyonE?
[03:09] <Tm_T> sorry, don't know who "anyonE" is
[03:09] <Tm_T> who or what
[03:10] <darren> u know wnything about xp on unbuntu ?
[03:10] <Tm_T> er?
[03:10] <SkyblastAtWork> hehe, the whole point of using Ubuntu is to not use XP ;)
[03:11] <Tm_T> SkyblastAtWork: false
[03:11] <Tm_T> SkyblastAtWork: that's just extra
[03:11] <darren> yes,  but i need xp for some progs
[03:11] <SkyblastAtWork> Yes, thanks for your correction.
[03:11] <Tm_T> darren: just say what exactly is your problem and we'll try to help :)
[03:11] <darren> thanks
[03:12] <darren> ive installed  qemu
[03:12] <darren> and i have now saved win xp in emu
[03:12] <darren> so now
[03:12] <Gabz> vmware is the other option
[03:12] <sivaji> my feisty cant handle dvd ple tell me the plugin to support dvd
[03:12] <darren> xp loads up  but stops at the login   because its trying to validate the software
[03:13] <SkyblastAtWork> Do you have the XP virtual machine networked?
[03:13] <darren> i think that is the problem
[03:13] <darren> but i dont know how to do that
[03:13] <darren> networks stuff on linux  baffles me
[03:14] <darren> the pop up says this
[03:14] <darren> a problem is peventing windows from accurately checking the license for this computer
[03:14] <darren> so  i gather  that its trying to go online to check the license
[03:14] <SkyblastAtWork> Yeah, no internet will cause that error.
[03:14] <darren> dam
[03:14] <SkyblastAtWork> I don't know about qemu. Maybe someone else does.
[03:14] <darren> what program do u use?
[03:15] <SkyblastAtWork> I use vmware server, though and it works great. You might want to try that .
[03:15] <darren> is it open source?
[03:15] <SkyblastAtWork> I'm afraid not, but it does work well.
[03:15] <darren> hmm
[03:15] <darren> have u got xp running on it ?
[03:16] <SkyblastAtWork> I have 2000 running
[03:16] <SkyblastAtWork> as well as a few misc Linux distros
[03:17] <blenheim> dangf
[03:18] <blenheim> it workd a little while but then it did crush again
[03:18] <darren> why ?
[03:18] <darren> i mean
[03:18] <darren> cool
[03:18] <darren> did the win  version  be stable ?
[03:18] <darren> which vmware u have ?
[03:19] <SkyblastAtWork> It's about as stable as it would be on a real machine. I've had no problems caused by the virtualization(other than it not being totally native speed of course)
[03:19] <SkyblastAtWork> I use VMWare Server, the free one
[03:19] <blenheim> I tried to set up two screens and that is where x said it was too much for it
[03:19] <blenheim> I restarted it and it didn't come up again
[03:19] <darren> i thpough u had to pay for it ?
[03:20] <blenheim> after boot it said that error, no device found or something
[03:20] <SkyblastAtWork> There are some versions of VMWare you pay for, such as workstation and gsx server, but VMWare Server is available at no cost. You do have to fill out a little form to get a serial number for it, though
[03:21] <flaccid> SkyblastAtWork: where do you do that
[03:21] <darren> wow
[03:22] <darren> which one do i get  for ubuntu   i mean the file type ?
[03:22] <Skrot> Hi, where is the "Restricted Devices Manager"-tool located in kubuntu?
[03:22] <SkyblastAtWork> darren: Here's a good guide on the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[03:23] <darren> wow  thannk u
[03:24] <Kazade_> whats the difference between vmware server and vmware player? are they the same thing? vmware player doesnt allow creation of vms does vmware server?
[03:24] <darren> thats ok   my kubuntu  didnt install the player
[03:24] <darren> lol
[03:24] <Gabz> Skrot: if you find out tell me
[03:25] <Skrot> I've seen numerous people ask the same question the last couple of days..
[03:25] <Skrot> Makes me wonder if it even exists in kubuntu
[03:25] <beanie> does anybody know if thunderbird2 comes into the kubuntu-reps?
[03:25] <Gabz> beanie: it's not there yet i don't think
[03:25] <beanie> :(((
[03:25] <flaccid> !find thunderbird
[03:25] <darren> im downloading the vm  now
[03:25] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-thunderbird, mozilla-thunderbird-dev, mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail, mozilla-thunderbird-inspector, mozilla-thunderbird-typeaheadfind (and 48 others)
[03:26] <flaccid> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[03:26] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 10635 kB, installed size 29700 kB
[03:26] <beanie> thats thunderbird 1.5
[03:26] <flaccid> i guess thats not thunderbird2
[03:26] <flaccid> indeed it is beanie. so no.
[03:26] <beanie> i want tb2
[03:26] <flaccid> well go and d/l it then
[03:26] <Gabz> Skrot: i don't think it does...
[03:27] <Skrot> well that sucks..
[03:27] <beanie> flaccid: i dont like installing apps without the packagemanager :(
[03:27] <beanie> is der a deb?
[03:27] <beanie> tb2 is not as .deb avbailable
[03:27] <flaccid> if there was a deb, it would probably be in the repos
[03:27] <Gabz> Skrot: found it
[03:27] <beanie> :(((((((((((((
[03:27] <flaccid> so you will need to build
[03:27] <Skrot> nice! Where?
[03:28] <Gabz> Skrot: in konsole type sudo restricted-manager
[03:28] <SkyblastAtWork> Thunderbird 2 came out after the repos froze, unfortunately
[03:28] <beanie> flaccid: ok :((((((((((((
[03:28] <beanie> tb2 will only be in gutsy?
[03:28] <flaccid> beanie: venture into the unknown and compile
[03:28] <SkyblastAtWork> Is there not a binary tar.gz available for Thunderbird like there is in Firefox?
[03:28] <sivaji> what is clipboard?
[03:29] <flaccid> im looking now
[03:29] <beanie> SkyblastAtWork: yes it is. but it doesnt recognize my profile
[03:29] <Skrot> Gabz: Not even installed here..
[03:29] <StephZ> how can i launch for example kpdf on my KDE from tty1 ?
[03:29] <Gabz> Skrot: i actaully think i went to the effort to install it
[03:29] <flaccid> yeah builds: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/2.0.0.0/releasenotes/#contributedbuilds
[03:29] <david> hi there, i have an ralink (rt61), set up as ra0. i have noticed that in ifconfig that it periodically has collisions. is this normal?
[03:29] <Gabz> Gabz: so i don't think it's installed in kubuntu by default
[03:29] <flaccid> beanie: recognise you profile
[03:30] <Gabz> Skrot: see upper post to myself :S
[03:30] <tolonuga> hi. does anyone have a fresh (k)ubuntu installation? can you type "mount" and tell me if /proc/bus/usb is mounted on your system or not?
[03:30] <ubuntu__> halo
[03:30] <Skrot> Gabz: weak. But it worked nice
[03:30] <ubuntu__> im new on linux
[03:30] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to edit grub
[03:30] <blenheim> ubuntu__: you're not alone... :D
[03:31] <Gabz> Skrot: very weak kubuntu gets the short stick too much...
[03:31] <ubuntu__> so we cannot edit grub?
[03:31] <Skrot> indeed, Gabz
[03:31] <StephZ> ubuntu_> it's in /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:31] <flaccid> ubuntu__: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:31] <ubuntu__> ow
[03:31] <ubuntu__> ok i will try
[03:32] <flaccid> StephZ: stop being such a good helper :p
[03:32] <ubuntu__> but my grub is  damage
[03:32] <ubuntu__> can i fix it
[03:32] <StephZ> lol@flaccid
[03:32] <beanie> grub-install
[03:32] <flaccid> define damage
[03:32] <ubuntu__> i cannot boot
[03:32] <david> no one uses a ralink wireless card?
[03:32] <david> crazy
[03:32] <flaccid> ubuntu__: whats the error
[03:32] <ubuntu__> error 15
[03:32] <flaccid> ah
[03:32] <flaccid> there is an update grub binary or scrkpt, StephZ you remember?
[03:32] <ubuntu__> i think it cannot run grub
[03:33] <SkyblastAtWork> update-grub?
[03:33] <flaccid> ubuntu__: look up grub error 15 and see what that error is
[03:33] <ubuntu__> how?
[03:33] <flaccid> SkyblastAtWork: something like that
[03:33] <ubuntu__> where can i find that?
[03:33] <SkyblastAtWork> ubuntu__: sudo update-grub in a terminal
[03:33] <SkyblastAtWork> see if that helps any
[03:33] <ubuntu__> i boot with live cd
[03:34] <ubuntu__> no grub directory find
[03:34] <ubuntu__> i run fsck before
[03:34] <ubuntu__> and my electrical is shut down
[03:34] <ubuntu__> then i must restart my pc and thats how it started
[03:35] <flaccid> error 15 looks like missing menu.lst
[03:35] <flaccid> or other grub files
[03:35] <flaccid> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43591
[03:35] <ubuntu__> so i must re install the kubuntu?
[03:35] <Briareos1> hi! i have 3 audio devices in my computer - where/how can i tell mozilla firefox to use (eg.) the 2nd?
[03:36] <flaccid> ubuntu__: like i said see the link
[03:36] <aspedia> !nfs
[03:36] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:36] <flaccid> ubuntu__: what does file /boot/grub/menu.lst return?
[03:36] <ubuntu__> ok thank
[03:36] <ubuntu__> i boot with live cd
[03:37] <ubuntu__> flaccid i dont get it
[03:37] <blenheim> but if you try to look from the disk
[03:37] <flaccid> i don't understand you ubuntu__
[03:38] <ubuntu__> it doesnt have any folder yet cause im booting with live cd
[03:38] <Gabz> !KB
[03:38] <ubotu> While it is common in the computing field to consider 1kB (one kilobyte) = 1024B (1024 bytes), the correct equation, according to standard IEEE 1541, is 1kB = 1000B. On the other hand, 1KiB (one kibibyte) = 1024B  -  Same goes for all multiples
[03:38] <ubuntu__> please tell me how to get do /boot/grub/menulist
[03:38] <Gabz> !kb
[03:38] <ubotu> While it is common in the computing field to consider 1kB (one kilobyte) = 1024B (1024 bytes), the correct equation, according to standard IEEE 1541, is 1kB = 1000B. On the other hand, 1KiB (one kibibyte) = 1024B  -  Same goes for all multiples
[03:38] <ubuntu__> but my grub isnt work i think
[03:39] <StephZ> ubuntu_ did you try fsck /dev/hda1
[03:39] <ubuntu__> in terminal >stephz
[03:39] <ubuntu__> ?
[03:39] <StephZ> yep
[03:40] <ubuntu__> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006
[03:40] <ubuntu__> no such directory
[03:41] <StephZ> ubuntu_
[03:41] <ubuntu__> ya
[03:41] <StephZ> where is your ubuntu distro installed?
[03:41] <ubuntu__> in /sda2
[03:41] <ubuntu__> i mean
[03:41] <ubuntu__> in /sda3
[03:42] <StephZ> fsck /dev/sda
[03:42] <StephZ> oups
[03:42] <StephZ> fsck /dev/sda2
[03:42] <ubuntu__> same thing happens
[03:42] <StephZ> you can also try /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda2
[03:42] <SkyblastAtWork> What happens when you try sda3?
[03:43] <ubuntu__> mkdir: cannot create directory `/boot/grub': Permission denied
[03:43] <StephZ> do it as su
[03:44] <StephZ> sudo /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda2
[03:44] <flaccid> soz, im back.
[03:45] <flaccid> yeah the reasone before ubuntu__ is becausse of livecd. you would have to mount. but you don't need to as StephZ has shown the solution using a param for grub-install
[03:45] <ubuntu__> flaccid please tell me how can i get access to hdd
[03:45] <ubuntu__> stephz
[03:46] <ubuntu__> it same thing happens
[03:46] <StephZ> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[03:46] <flaccid> ubuntu__: if you fix grub you should be able to boot if the entry is right in menu.lst and the install is ok
[03:46] <Murganhjga> ubuntu__ ?
[03:46] <flaccid> but you can mount as StephZ advises **
[03:46] <darren> dam the vm isnt working
[03:46] <StephZ> flaccid ;-)
[03:46] <flaccid> you might wanna mount to /mnt/something
[03:46] <Murganhjga> ubuntu_ ?
[03:47] <ubuntu__> this is what happens special device /dev/sda2 does not exist
[03:47] <flaccid> right
[03:47] <flaccid> wich would make sense
[03:47] <flaccid> what does file /dev/sda2 return?
[03:48] <ubuntu__> no such file or directory
[03:48] <salaah> can someone please help me with my display driver? i have an nvidia,
[03:49] <salaah> i tried updating it using the repositories but that messed up the display
[03:50] <flaccid> ubuntu__: pastebin ls /dev | grep sda
[03:50] <ubuntu__> i give up so i must reinstall kubuntu now
[03:50] <ubuntu__> i guess
[03:50] <mrcreativity> anyone?
[03:50] <flaccid> patience
[03:50] <mrcreativity> i just reinstalled kubuntu
[03:50] <ubuntu__> command not found
[03:51] <ubuntu__> mrcreativity i used nvidia
[03:51] <SkyblastAtWork> !pastebin | ubuntu__
[03:51] <ubuntu__> too
[03:51] <ubotu> ubuntu__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <mrcreativity> ubuntu__: on kubuntu?
[03:51] <ubuntu__> ya
[03:51] <SkyblastAtWork> I think he might have tried to use pastbin as a command
[03:51] <flaccid> which command
[03:51] <flaccid> you should have ls and grep..
[03:51] <mrcreativity> i need helpo with kubuntu
[03:51] <flaccid> !ask
[03:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:52] <ubuntu__> all come up with command not found
[03:52] <mrcreativity> can someone help me out? i tried updating thru adept the last time and it messed up my display
[03:52] <SkyblastAtWork> ls /dev comes up as command not found ?
[03:52] <SkyblastAtWork> LS /DEV ?
[03:52] <ubuntu__> i used add/remove program to install nvidia
[03:53] <flaccid> pastebin fdisk -l then ubuntu__
[03:53] <SkyblastAtWork> mrcreativity: I don't have an nvidia card, but have you looked at your xorg.conf after it messes up to see if you can see anything wrong?
[03:53] <ubuntu__> pastebin?
[03:53] <SkyblastAtWork> Maybe it's not detecting the right resolutions
[03:54] <pagan_> eloo
[03:54] <mrcreativity> SkyblastAtWork: i dont have enough expericne in linux to check my xorg,conf and see if anything is wrong.
[03:54] <ubuntu__> pastebin command not found
[03:54] <SkyblastAtWork> ubuntu__: pastebin is a site to put the results so you do not flood the channel
[03:54] <SkyblastAtWork> !pastbin
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <SkyblastAtWork> !pastebin
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <JuJuBee> OK, sendmail is running... I am new to this.  I guess I need to use domain name?
[03:55] <flaccid> JuJuBee: what are you going on about?
[03:55] <JuJuBee> unable to qualify my own domain name (localhost) -- using short name
[03:55] <ubuntu__> i type fdisk -l
[03:55] <ubuntu__> and nothing happeng it come up with a prompt
[03:55] <JuJuBee> Trying to get sendmail running on my laptop so I can use it to test web stuff... I use php mail() for some apps.
[03:55] <JuJuBee> Don't want to have to upload to production server just to test..
[03:56] <flaccid> JuJuBee: you can google that. you need to set your canonical host name up correctly - not use localhost
[03:56] <SkyblastAtWork> ubuntu__: What about sudo fdisk -l
[03:56] <flaccid> ubuntu__: sorry. sudo fdisk -l
[03:56] <JuJuBee> K, I will google that, I didn't know where to start looking.
[03:56] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[03:57] <ubuntu__> where can i paste the result?
[03:57] <flaccid> JuJuBee: its very common. its on google. otherwise #sendmail . set the hostname of the box to a FQDN
[03:57] <SkyblastAtWork> ubuntu__: pastebin
[03:57] <flaccid> ubuntu__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:57] <Ginja_Ninja> I have installed the spca5xx package. How do i build, or load that as a module ?
[03:57] <flaccid> Ginja_Ninja: its a kernel mod iirc
[03:58] <flaccid> depmod spca5xx maybe
[03:58] <SkyblastAtWork> sudo modprobe spca5xx ?
[03:58] <flaccid> oops yeah modprobe
[03:58] <ubuntu__> error
[03:58] <ubuntu__> unknown host
[03:59] <Ginja_Ninja> Thanks all. It says spca5xx not found.
[03:59] <Ginja_Ninja> On a second look, the package is spca5xx-source
[03:59] <Ginja_Ninja> can i build the module ?
[04:00] <flaccid> yeah read the doc for it
[04:00] <Ginja_Ninja> excuse my noobness
[04:00] <flaccid> README or INSTALL in the / of the package
[04:00] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[04:00] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:02] <BluesKaj> !Feisty Repository
[04:02] <Ginja_Ninja> flaccid: thanks for your time. Just one last Q, were are the packages stored, so i can go hunt the readme ?
[04:02] <Scott_> can someone tell me how to find out which version of kubuntu is installed?
[04:02] <chino> if im using kdm and i have xubuntu installed as well... can i have it so i can pick xfce or kde at login ?
[04:02] <flaccid> Ginja_Ninja: i don't know what you downloaded
[04:02] <flaccid> !info spca5xx
[04:02] <ubotu> Package spca5xx does not exist in feisty
[04:03] <Ginja_Ninja> flaccid: i simply used the Adept Manager
[04:03] <darren> anyone know vmware ?
[04:03] <SkyblastAtWork> !info spca5xx-source
[04:03] <ubotu> spca5xx-source: source for the spca5xx driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060501-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 192 kB, installed size 256 kB
[04:03] <Ginja_Ninja> i have fiesty
[04:03] <darren> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[04:03] <flaccid> oh yeah i forgot the -source. much stoned.
[04:03] <SkyblastAtWork> darren: I do.
[04:03] <darren> hey  i tried installing it
[04:04] <flaccid> Ginja_Ninja: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=spca5xx-source&version=edgy&arch=all
[04:04] <darren> the first part was ok
[04:04] <darren> but
[04:04] <darren> when trying to install vmware server console  it doesnt complete
[04:04] <Ginja_Ninja> flaccid: Thanks
[04:04] <Ginja_Ninja> Everyone help is greatly appreciated
[04:04] <flaccid> np. Ginja_Ninja: so usr/share/doc/spca5xx-source/README*
[04:05] <dasnipa> flaccid, thats what she said
[04:05] <flaccid> dasnipa: sorry?
[04:05] <SkyblastAtWork> darren: What error message do you get if any?
[04:06] <dasnipa> flaccid, no, i was just making a dumb stab at your nickname
[04:06] <flaccid> oh
[04:06] <flaccid> actually im "best in the world"
[04:07] <darren> you know that website  u gave me
[04:07] <flaccid> dasnipa: its from a grinspoon song.
[04:07] <darren> i folowed up until the vmware server mui    it wouldnt do    sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[04:08] <flaccid> what was the error
[04:08] <SkyblastAtWork> Are you installing on Feisty?
[04:12] <darren> yes
[04:13] <SkyblastAtWork> Did you follow the specific Feisty instructions? They are different than Edgy and Dapper
[04:13] <darren> yes i did
[04:14] <SkyblastAtWork> okay, and what happened when you tried to do ./vmware-install.pl ? Anything or did it error out immediately?
[04:15] <darren> nothing happened
[04:15] <SkyblastAtWork> No text on the screen?
[04:16] <darren> no
[04:16] <darren> see  if u look at the webpage
[04:17] <darren> i am now down were it says installation note,   just above  vmware server
[04:17] <darren> it says my vmware server is istalled but not config correctly
[04:18] <SkyblastAtWork> did you do the reconfigure parts at the bottom and restart the vmware init.d?
[04:18] <shmoolik> helllo
[04:18] <shmoolik> Ktorrent download very slowly on my machine
[04:18] <darren> yes
[04:18] <SkyblastAtWork> hmmmm
[04:19] <shmoolik> i checked the pots tetting and stuff ... and it isi all okay
[04:19] <SkyblastAtWork> What does running vmware in a terminal output?
[04:19] <shmoolik> so i need to check anouther thingy ???
[04:19] <darren> what do i type for that ?
[04:19] <SkyblastAtWork> just go into a terminal and type vmware
[04:19] <darren> vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[04:19] <darren> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[04:19] <darren> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[04:19] <SkyblastAtWork> hmmm
[04:20] <SkyblastAtWork> okay, do sudo vmware-config.pl
[04:20] <darren> tried that  but wont let me in
[04:20] <SkyblastAtWork> What does it say for that?
[04:20] <darren> hang on  it just let me in
[04:20] <darren> im in
[04:20] <darren> its asking about icons
[04:21] <darren> u know when i downloaded the program, i svaed it to  the desktop
[04:21] <darren> would this dont anything to cause probs?
[04:21] <SkyblastAtWork> Don't worry about that. The install puts all the files in the right place
[04:21] <icecruncher> what is the java plugin for ff, or can you install it in the browser?
[04:21] <SkyblastAtWork> you can pretty much answer the defaults to the questions
[04:21] <monteslu> question: I did an install of ubuntu, then installed kde aftewards through synaptic... do I essentially have kubuntu? Seems like gnome has things that kde doesn't like the tool to install Nvidia drivers
[04:22] <roter_kobold> hello
[04:22] <darren> i did that
[04:22] <darren> ill hit enter through it all then   brb
[04:23] <icecruncher> !java
[04:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:23] <flaccid> monteslu: yeah
[04:23] <darren> ohh  i dont think i have xinetd
[04:23] <SkyblastAtWork> monteslu: Yeah, Kubuntu doesnt have the restricted drivers manager. If you installed the kubuntu-desktop metapackage, you have Kubuntu
[04:23] <flaccid> !info xinetd
[04:23] <ubotu> xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 131 kB, installed size 360 kB
[04:23] <monteslu> ok, thanks flaccid  and SkyblastAtWork
[04:23] <flaccid> you can install dat
[04:23] <flaccid> np
[04:25] <monteslu> ...so after 2 days with ubuntu(long time redhat/fedora user)... The only difference I can see is that synaptic is faster than yumex
[04:25] <monteslu> I like it
[04:26] <flaccid> lol
[04:26] <to6ko> :)
[04:26] <darren> ok  that wa sthe prob   i didnt have   xinetd
[04:26] <SkyblastAtWork> I used to use Fedora Core. It was okay in it's time but I've found I like Debian and it's derivatives so much better
[04:26] <darren> it completed  that part successfully
[04:26] <flaccid> SkyblastAtWork: agreed
[04:27] <SkyblastAtWork> darren: Now do sudo /etc/init.d/vmware restart
[04:27] <SkyblastAtWork> then try running vmware
[04:28] <trappist> any time I start a new connection of any kind (http, ssh etc.) the first try fails.  ssh's error message is resource temporarily unavailable.  always works on the 2nd try.  this happens since I rebooted with the new feisty kernel.  any ideas?
[04:28] <monteslu> much larger user base of u/kubuntu as well it seems
[04:28] <darren> dam it
[04:29] <darren> ok  i restarted it
[04:29] <darren> now what
[04:29] <SkyblastAtWork> Try vmware in a terminal
[04:29] <enemyz> what do I need to do to make amarok play mp3s? anyone?
[04:30] <darren> its a bit slow
[04:30] <icecruncher> anybody use Joomla?
[04:30] <icecruncher> !mp3 | enemyz
[04:30] <ubotu> enemyz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <darren> but a vmware server console window poped up
[04:30] <SkyblastAtWork> Yay
[04:30] <SkyblastAtWork> enemyz: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:30] <SkyblastAtWork> The Install MP3 support thing is broken it seems
[04:30] <abattoir> enemyz: depends on which version of kubuntu you use, but libxine-extracodecs should pull down the right stuff most of the tims
[04:30] <enemyz> Ty skayblast
[04:30] <abattoir> *time
[04:30] <SkyblastAtWork> if you are using Feisty
[04:30] <SkyblastAtWork> I should have said that
[04:31] <icecruncher> SkyblastAtWork: or libxine-extracodec
[04:31] <icecruncher> *+s
[04:31] <SkyblastAtWork> I didn't see that in the Feisty repos. Now it just had several different libxine packages. Is it still there?
[04:31] <SkyblastAtWork> I know that was it for edgy
[04:32] <abattoir> SkyblastAtWork: last i used, it was a dummy package which installed libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:32] <darren> sky   do i create a new virtual machine ?
[04:32] <abattoir> (for feisty, of course)
[04:32] <SkyblastAtWork> ahhh
[04:32] <SkyblastAtWork> yes darren
[04:32] <darren> and i do typical instll ?
[04:33] <SkyblastAtWork> Or you can do custom if you want certain specs
[04:33] <SkyblastAtWork> Typical is usually okay
[04:33] <darren> ill do typical,   gee  only second day  on ubuntu
[04:33] <darren> lol
[04:34] <darren> which net work connection would i selcet ?   i am behind a hardware firewall
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Hmm what would prevent me from being able to tab complete a file name?
[04:34] <SkyblastAtWork> I usually choose NAT because I don't want it to grab addresses from my network
[04:34] <SkyblastAtWork> Depends on your needs really
[04:34] <darren> whats is the most auto  one ?
[04:34] <SkyblastAtWork> If you choose bridged, it will try to grab an address from your router
[04:35] <darren> i dont even know what a nat s,  i just know my firewall allows for tat
[04:35] <darren> lol
[04:35] <darren> oh  my router isnt set for dhcp
[04:35] <darren> i set it for static  i think
[04:35] <SkyblastAtWork> use NAT then, will be much easier
[04:35] <LM1> anyone here know what is up with feisty's networking issues?
[04:36] <darren> should i select split disk in 2 g files ?
[04:36] <darren> i dont think that would be good
[04:36] <SkyblastAtWork> You don't really have to
[04:36] <Gabz> @now
[04:36] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: April 24 2007, 14:36:43 - Next meeting: Technical Board in 5 hours 23 minutes
[04:36] <SkyblastAtWork> That option is there more for Windows users
[04:36] <darren> im creating the disk
[04:36] <darren> yay
[04:36] <darren> this is exciting
[04:37] <darren> if i can get xp running,  then i will install spss
[04:37] <SkyblastAtWork> spss?
[04:37] <darren> it is a statistical analysis program  that psychologists use
[04:37] <SkyblastAtWork> ahh
[04:37] <icecruncher> lol
[04:38] <Gabz> spss isn't used by mathematictions
[04:38] <Gabz> r-cron is statiscss for real men
[04:38] <darren> it can be
[04:38] <darren> its applications are varieed
[04:38] <Gabz> darren ok it's not used by the maths department at my university
[04:38] <darren> time to fill up my glass  brb
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir!
[04:39] <Murganhjga> abattoir ??
[04:40] <darren> which uni u goto ?
[04:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Murganhjga: That's someone's nickname
[04:40] <Murganhjga> okay lol
[04:40] <Gabz> darren:  newcastle australia
[04:40] <darren> thats why
[04:40] <darren> *giggles*
[04:41] <Kubuntu> Is the driver for NVIDA GeForce fx 5500 safe to use? (feisty fawn)
[04:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Kubuntu: Define: Safe to use
[04:41] <darren> i first learnt spss  at university of western sydney
[04:41] <darren> but now i am at sydneyuniversity  and they have it as well
[04:41] <Gabz> darren:  the psychologists use it but not maths, my mum did psychology at nsw and she did fortran
[04:41] <sharkp> hi
[04:42] <sharkp> I want to work in my mp3 player with amarok
[04:42] <sharkp> How shall I do?
[04:42] <Kubuntu> Are you sure it won't break X server?
[04:42] <Gabz> darren arrh western sydney the guys which stole our pure mathematictions
[04:43] <sharkp> I want to work in my mp3 player with amarok
[04:43] <darren> lol
[04:43] <sharkp> How shall I do?
[04:43] <MilhousePunkRock> How does the remote desktop connection work, in general?
[04:43] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi!
[04:43] <darren> dam i cant remeber where i got the serial
[04:43] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Hey!
[04:43] <Gabz> !mp3 | sharkp
[04:43] <ubotu> sharkp: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <ypsila> moin
[04:43] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: What kind of player is it?
[04:43] <sharkp> Gabz: I wasn't clear
[04:44] <ypsila> Riddell: ping
[04:44] <sharkp> I want to load music in the player with amaeok
[04:44] <sharkp> *amarok
[04:44] <sharkp> MilhousePunkRock: it's a Packardbell
[04:44] <sharkp> 512 mb flash player
[04:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: UMS? MTP?
[04:44] <darren> hey  how do i enter the serial in the command line ?
[04:44] <sharkp> ehm...what?
[04:45] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: The protocol it uses?
[04:45] <sharkp> I don't know...
[04:46] <sharkp> I've formatted the computer
[04:46] <sharkp> but before formatting I used amarok to upload songs on player
[04:46] <sharkp> but I don't know how I have to set amarok
[04:47] <piway> !fr
[04:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:48] <luc_> Salut a tous
[04:48] <ferret_0567> Is karm actually useful?
[04:48] <sharkp> salut,luc_
[04:49] <ypsila> salut
[04:49] <SkyblastAtWork> darren: Try this. do 'sudo su' in a terminal, then run vmware. Then uh... I thin it's under help where you can enter the serial number
[04:49] <luc_> sincerement je n'ai jamais fait attention a ce client irc
[04:49] <abattoir> !fr | luc_
[04:49] <ubotu> luc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:49] <luc_> plaisir d'y  etre
[04:49] <sharkp> MilhousePunkRock: don't you know how to help me?
[04:49] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: I remember it's pretty self explanatory... Try generic media player to begin with...
[04:49] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: I just launched Amarok here to have a look
[04:50] <Kubuntu> How can I find out what graffics card I have?
[04:50] <sharkp> Problem is that kubuntu read my player such as a normal pen drive
[04:50] <ferret_0567> Kubuntu: you can try "lspci", there are other ways, to0o
[04:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Kubuntu: Let me guess, because you want to set up beryl?
[04:51] <Kubuntu> what is beryl?
[04:51] <MilhousePunkRock> sharkp: Isn't that good enough?
[04:51] <Toyd> gUys from me to the kubuntu community: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[04:51] <Toyd> BERYL IS A DIAMOND
[04:51] <sharkp> MilhousePunkRock: How shall I do?
[04:51] <ferret_0567> Kubuntu: beryl might run a little slow, depending on what NVIDIA graphics card you have
[04:51] <sharkp> I insert the pen
[04:51] <sharkp> and now?
[04:52] <Kubuntu> What driver should I use for this car nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] ??
[04:52] <debianland> (#G=10E476M1) USE ME
[04:52] <ferret_0567> The nvidia one
[04:52] <ferret_0567> Kubuntu, can you please paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin?
[04:52] <ferret_0567> all of it, please
[04:52] <sharkp> MilhousePunkRock: Wait
[04:52] <sharkp> Amarok has opened that
[04:53] <sharkp> *opened it
[04:53] <sharkp> ok,now it's ok
[04:54] <sharkp> bye guys
[04:54] <ferret_0567> !pastebin | Kubuntu
[04:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:55] <ferret_0567> To look up info, you type: "!<what you want to look up, all in lowercase>
[04:57] <Daisuke_IPFW> there has got to be a simple way to set up video streaming over the net :\
[04:57] <darren> yes  thats right   as  i said b4   psych  use that program :)
[04:58] <darren> yep  the serial  number is in
[04:58] <darren> but now  its not recognising the cdrom drive
[04:58] <ferret_0567> How can I make a script to transfer certain things to my desktop, you know, keep it all in sync?
[05:00] <darren> dam it   this  ubuntu  is like  jumping hurdles
[05:00] <darren> :(
[05:02] <darren> oh dear  my fault - i had the disk in the wrong drive
[05:02] <darren> lol
[05:02] <darren> dam  that was stupid
[05:06] <ForMatter> My kubuntu <edgy eft> cant connect into network using wireless assistant manager..What can i do..
[05:07] <darren> i dont know
[05:07] <darren> buy usully someone is around sometime to help
[05:08] <LM1> anyone having ethernet issues on feisty
[05:08] <galathalion> anyone using simpserver for unix?
[05:08] <ForMatter> I have installed kwlan..But still cant connecting..
[05:08] <darren> no  it picked mine up easily
[05:10] <tuxed> hi
[05:10] <tuxed> anyone using the zd1211rw driver? or can tell me where to put the firmware
[05:10] <sbrath> I have a question on kubuntu, in Konsole when I run screen now, I can't do a Shift-Page-Up to look at history? I used to be able to do this in the older version of KDE?
[05:13] <paco_> sbrath: in screen, you should use ctrl-a <ESC> then pgup/pgdown to scroll
[05:15] <paco_> it has nothing to do with kde, I doubt you was able to do that, unless you have configured screen specifically
[05:15] <sbrath> paco_: That puts me in copy mode, and I guess does work.
[05:15] <sbrath> When I had Gentoo running and the older rev of KDE, it allowed a striaght page-up
[05:17] <LM1> does anyone know how to remove this avahi crud permanently?
[05:17] <paco_> sbrath: that surprises me
[05:18] <ferret_0567> LM1: try dpkg -l avahi*
[05:18] <sbrath> paco_: I would try it again but that box crashed :(
[05:18] <ferret_0567> LM1: try dpkg --selected-only -l avahi*
[05:18] <ferret_0567> There you go
[05:18] <tibbar> I compiled wine and when I try to run it it gives me this error "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!". Im using Kubuntu 7.04 (freisty)
[05:18] <frojnd> where cab I set my blue tooth to recognize mobile phone or headset?
[05:19] <ferret_0567> A "selected" package is an installed package
[05:19] <sbrath> Do you have any knoweldge as to why when I rdesktop to a server, I have random Caps-Lock issues in the rdesktop session? Or should I take that to #rdesktop :)
[05:20] <tibbar> I compiled wine and when I try to run it it gives me this error "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!". Im using Kubuntu 7.04 (freisty). When I install wine from adept it works
[05:22] <frojnd> hello there. I just put blue tooth adapter and kubuntu recognize it. And than I set in the phone to search for music files and the phone found my hostname but it wasn't able to connect throuhg blue tooth. What do I have to do so phone can connect to my comp???
[05:22] <koriel> tibbar: why do you want to compile wine and don't use adept?
[05:23] <koriel> anyway maybe you should add the X11 driver to your compile path...check the ./configure --help options
[05:23] <ForMatter> My kubuntu <edgy eft> cant connect into network using wireless assistant manager..What can i do..
[05:24] <systest> looks like feisty enables "networkmanager" by default. :-(  Would someone please point me to the config files for this tool?
[05:24] <koriel> ForMatter : does the wireless assistant finds your wifi card?
[05:24] <koriel> ForMatter: is your wifi card turned on?
[05:25] <ForMatter> Yes..My wifi card was detected..
[05:25] <koriel> ok does the wi assistant find any networks?
[05:26] <ForMatter> And turned on..There's access points detected,but i cant connecting into it..
[05:26] <lovloss> Someone explain to me why the feisty cd doesnt automatically support radeon x700 series graphic cards? They're pretty common o.o
[05:26] <koriel> ForMatter: does the access point supports dhcp?
[05:26] <darren> sky  u still there ?
[05:27] <ForMatter> I try using kwlan,but still cant connecting..
[05:27] <koriel> ForMatter : go to konsole and type ifconfig and paste the output somewhere pastebin...
[05:28] <ForMatter> Koriel : wait a minute..
[05:28] <xerosis> does anyone know where the keyboard shortcuts are stored on file? changing it in systemsettings reverts as soon as i close, so i think it's become root for some reason
[05:32] <refefer> hey guys, anyone feel like helping me out with a widescreen question?
[05:32] <koriel> shoot
[05:33] <refefer> well, I'm using a dell optiplex GX520 which is using the intel 945G graphics card
[05:33] <refefer> I've installed 915resolution
[05:33] <refefer> but everytime I select the monitors native (1280 x768 at 60hz) the screen corrupts after resetting X
[05:33] <refefer> any ideas why?
[05:34] <ForMatter> Koriel : this message from "ifconfig"..eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:4A:15:BD
[05:34] <tibbar> koriel: when I compile it I get this erro
[05:34] <ForMatter>           inet addr:192.168.12.37  Bcast:192.168.12.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[05:34] <ForMatter>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[05:34] <ForMatter>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[05:34] <ForMatter>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[05:34] <ForMatter>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[05:34] <ForMatter>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[05:34] <ForMatter>           Interrupt:169 Base address:0x2c00
[05:34] <ForMatter> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:CE:87:B7:0F
[05:34] <ForMatter>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[05:34] <ForMatter>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[05:34] <koriel> ForMatter : not here man
[05:34] <ForMatter>           TX packets:11154 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[05:34] <ForMatter>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[05:34] <ForMatter>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[05:34] <ForMatter>           Interrupt:185 Base address:0x4000 Memory:b0000000-b0000fff
[05:34] <ForMatter> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[05:34] <ForMatter>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[05:34] <ForMatter>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[05:34] <ForMatter> 
[05:34] <ForMatter> Your mean..
[05:34] <koriel> ForMatter : use a pastebin service dont paste here
[05:35] <ForMatter> I'm sorry..He..He..
[05:36] <koriel> anyway when you double click the wifi network detected by the wireless assistant does it ask you about manual or dhcp settings?
[05:36] <piway> !fr
[05:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:36] <ForMatter> Koriel : but i cant use paste bin service,i dont know how to use it..
[05:36] <ForMatter> Koriel : with dhcp..
[05:36] <koriel> does the access point support dhcp?
[05:36] <koriel> is it enabled?
[05:37] <kalorin`> !fonts
[05:37] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:37] <edgar> yes
[05:37] <ForMatter> Koriel : yes,the AP support for dhcp..
[05:37] <edgar> do you dont know
[05:38] <_Neil> I have loads of these in my syslog: ntpd returns a permission denied error!
[05:38] <_Neil> any ideas?
[05:38] <koriel> do you have any security policies in this access point..?
[05:38] <koriel> is it a wireless router?
[05:38] <ForMatter> Koriel : but,i switch to windows OS..My wireless always work..
[05:39] <koriel> yes maybe you have setup the security settings in windows
[05:39] <kalorin`> !multiverse
[05:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:40] <ForMatter> Koriel : i dont know about that wifi is router or not..
[05:40] <edgar> how many section he divided
[05:40] <koriel> who is the owner of the access point?
[05:40] <ForMatter> Koriel : my college..
[05:40] <koriel> contact him...or try to connect manually by entering a valid ip address, mask, etc..
[05:40] <koriel> hmm
[05:41] <koriel> ForMatter, contact your college system administrator then...
[05:41] <ForMatter> Koriel : where i can find libc6 ver 2.4-1
[05:42] <koriel> in a repository I suppose...
[05:42] <koriel> use the adept package manager and search for libc6
[05:42] <koriel> or google it :)
[05:43] <darren> wow i have win xp runing in kubuntu
[05:43] <darren> yay
[05:44] <tyger> hello room... anyone else have CUPS break after the last update?
[05:44] <ForMatter> Darren : how can you do that..
[05:44] <infidopunk> hi
[05:45] <infidopunk> i need help
[05:45] <infidopunk> please
[05:45] <infidopunk> with my kubuntu.........
[05:45] <BluesKaj> infidopunk,  just ask yer Q
[05:45] <darren> yes
[05:45] <darren> i just did
[05:45] <darren> yay
[05:45] <darren> itonly took me a day
[05:45] <darren> lol
[05:45] <infidopunk> i had a ubuntu first then this kubuntu
[05:46] <ForMatter> Darren : do you have the emulator.?
[05:46] <infidopunk> and if i wanted to install some program i had only to check it in the add/remove list
[05:46] <infidopunk> here in kubuntu there are 30 programs and nothing else....
[05:47] <infidopunk> where are the others??
[05:47] <ForMatter> !Kwlan
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <darren> yes
[05:47] <ForMatter> !Wifi
[05:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <infidopunk> irc correctly work but not konqueror: why??
[05:50] <pestilence> infidopunk: proxy settings?
[05:50] <infidopunk> no proxy
[05:51] <infidopunk> i can't open no internet page
[05:51] <infidopunk> but i can ping all: also google.it
[05:51] <infidopunk> for example
[05:51] <atidem> ciao!
[05:51] <infidopunk> no idea??
[05:51] <infidopunk> atidem
[05:51] <pestilence> surengs to me
[05:52] <infidopunk> sei italiano? e puoi darmi aiuto?
[05:52] <pestilence> ack.
[05:52] <kalorin`> blah
[05:52] <pestilence> try #ubuntu-it
[05:52] <infidopunk> atidemmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:52] <infidopunk> i need help
[05:52] <scott> can someone tell me where I can find apache to set up? is it part of the adept installer?
[05:53] <Hc> hello, can any1 remember how to get kdewallet running? ive done it once and cant remember anymore how to do it
[05:54] <atidem> infidopunk: what?
[05:55] <infidopunk> atidem are u italian??
[05:55] <atidem> yes
[05:56] <spyked> hi all - i need HELP - my desktop froze, I restarted the computer, and now I can't get x up and running...
[05:56] <spyked> upgraded to feisty a couple days ago, it's been working FINE since then
[05:57] <pestilence> spyked: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:57] <dwidmann> spyked: Hmmm, you say you can't get X working now? Does it give you any errors we can go on?
[05:57] <spyked> too n00b to give the good answers, but ask them and I'll do what you say :)
[05:58] <spyked> gonna look in the log file - what command can i use in text mode to view it?
[05:58] <pestilence> spyked: use nano
[05:58] <dwidmann> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:58] <pestilence> less works too :)
[05:58] <spyked> 2  seks
[05:58] <dwidmann> less > more :)
[05:58] <ubuntu__> I am running kubuntu 7.04
[05:59] <pestilence> indeed
[05:59] <ubuntu__> is very nice
[05:59] <spyked> oh dear
[05:59] <ubuntu__> from cd
[05:59] <spyked> now i get to type a lot :)
[05:59] <ubuntu__> live cd
[05:59] <spyked> anything specific we're looking for in the log?
[05:59] <pestilence> if you use less
[05:59] <pestilence> type / then EE
[05:59] <pestilence> hit enter
[05:59] <spyked> i used nano :/
[05:59] <pestilence> spyked: exit nano, use less :-D
[05:59] <spyked> lol
[05:59] <ubuntu__> i am from Brazil
[06:00] <spyked> ok
[06:00] <spyked> ok - i typed / then EE
[06:00] <pestilence> as an explanation, / lets you search, typing EE searches for EE (you have to hit enter)
[06:00] <spyked> done that
[06:01] <pestilence> then hitting "n", will give you the "n"ext match
[06:01] <pestilence> you want to look for lines that begin with (EE)
[06:01] <pestilence> those are errors
[06:01] <spyked> poop
[06:01] <spyked> failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[06:01] <pestilence> there ya go
[06:01] <dwidmann> That would do it
[06:01] <spyked> yup
[06:02] <spyked> but... it's been working until now...
[06:02] <spyked> anyway - what do I do about it?
[06:02] <pestilence> spyked: that's the ATI closed source driver, is it not?
[06:03] <spyked> yes
[06:03] <spyked> and I'll change it - promise - but I need my mousie to do it lol
[06:03] <pestilence> spyked: check to see if its installed
[06:03] <spyked> it was when i checked after upgrade
[06:04] <dwidmann> yes, but this would be a nice time to double check, X couldn't find it
[06:04] <pestilence> spyked: i believe you need xorg-driver-fglrx and possibly linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386
[06:04] <pestilence> spyked: double check what kernel you are booting
[06:04] <xardias> is it possible to change the application launched when clicking on an folder on the desktop? i want to change it to use the dolphin file browser.#
[06:04] <dwidmann> dpkg --list | grep xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:04] <pestilence> spyked: it could be the first time you booted you used the old kernel
[06:04] <spyked> 2seks
[06:05] <pestilence> dwidmann: or dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx :-D
[06:05] <dwidmann> pestilence: I'm always doing things the hard way :\
[06:05] <spyked> hehe
[06:06] <spyked> rc xorg-driver-fglrx    7.1.0-8.34.8?2.6.20.5-15.20    Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[06:06] <dwidmann> If you just upgraded, and X crashed, and you haven't rebooted into the new kernel yet, that would make it seem broken
[06:06] <spyked> typing all that is NOT fun lol
[06:06] <spyked> i have rebooted since upgrade
[06:06] <pestilence> spyked: rc => not installed
[06:06] <dwidmann> rc = removed completely, or some such
[06:06] <spyked> bleah
[06:06] <spyked> removed?
[06:06] <pestilence> r - removed
[06:07] <spyked> hmmm
[06:07] <pestilence> c = conf files remain
[06:07] <dwidmann> yeah, there we go
[06:07] <pestilence> so install it and off you go
[06:07] <gurtubay> hola
[06:07] <spyked> ummm - how to install it?
[06:07] <spyked> in text mode?
[06:07] <pestilence> spyked: sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:07] <gurtubay> alguien que me acesore para instalar kubuntu, estoy en el paso de la particion
[06:07] <spyked> that's it? so simple?
[06:08] <dwidmann> pretty much
[06:08] <ian__> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:08] <pestilence> spyked: install linux-restricted-modules too
[06:08] <spyked> ok - i have to log off here to get internet on the other machine - be back  in a bit - thanks pestilence and dwidmann
[06:08] <pestilence> spyked: good luck
[06:08] <spyked> thanks
[06:08] <hodei> estoy conectado a internet, pero no consigo ver las paginas
[06:08] <gurtubay> gracias
[06:08] <ian__> any idea why i have to install my nvidia drivers everytime i reboot?
[06:09] <dwidmann> ian__: I'm not sure, I've experienced that before though
[06:09] <pedro_> alguem sabe de algum bom editor de audio para linux
[06:09] <pedro_> ?
[06:09] <dwidmann> My solution was to not reboot
[06:09] <_4strO> lol
[06:09] <topcat> hi
[06:09] <robbbbbb> can i disable the "password-entering" when booting up ?
[06:09] <_4strO> ian__: what do you mean by "install"
[06:10] <robbbbbb> i mean, like in windows, autologin without asking for a pw
[06:10] <hodei> alguien me puede ayudar a visualizar las paginas web?
[06:10] <_4strO> robbbbbb: system settings / advanced
[06:10] <_4strO> robbbbbb: session manager i think
[06:10] <ian__> i.e: sudo sh NVIDIA-blablbalblablabla --kernel-source-path /use/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:11] <ian__> *usr
[06:11] <_4strO> ian__: ok
[06:11] <ian__> otherwise im taken to a command line login
[06:11] <ian__> and when i startx from that
[06:11] <jhutchins> !es | hodei
[06:11] <ubotu> hodei: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:12] <dwidmann> ian__: best advice I can give is to write a script to do it until you figure out a solution
[06:12] <ian__> when i startx i get an error, basically saying that the version of my X modules is different to the version of the nvidia kernel
[06:12] <_4strO> ian__: did you look at your dmesg ?
[06:12] <dwidmann> and to put that script in /etc/init.d and then run supo update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[06:12] <dwidmann> *sudo
[06:13] <robbbbbb> thanks _4strO i try
[06:14] <ian__> nah i havnt _4strO
[06:14] <ian__> the version it states that X modules have, is the one for the legacy drivers
[06:14] <_4strO> perhaps you will have some information
[06:14] <ian__> but the nvidia kernel is the latest
[06:14] <jhutchins> ian__: Maybe you didn't delete the old drivers?
[06:14] <_4strO> mmm
[06:14] <ian__> i never had the legacy ones installed though o_O
[06:15] <_4strO> ian__: did you uninstall the lagacy driver before install the new one ?
[06:15] <ian__> played around with nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new, but that was it
[06:15] <ian__> I've never had legacy
[06:15] <_4strO> ian__: you had one driver by default
[06:15] <llutz> Moin
[06:15] <spyked-x> hey again
[06:16] <spyked-x> i'm baaaack :)
[06:16] <_4strO> lol
[06:16] <ian__> I'll see if it's installed on adept
[06:16] <stexe> ciao
[06:16] <dwidmann> ian__: do you have any trouble with nvidia-glx-new?
[06:16] <dwidmann> It's  up-to-date for now, and probably won't give you any trouble
[06:17] <spyked-x> thanks for your help dwidmann  - x is back up and running
[06:17] <ian__> i'm using the ones downloaded from the nvidia site atm
[06:17] <dwidmann> spyked-x: very nice :)
[06:17] <ian__> nvidia-glx is installed only
[06:18] <flipstar> hi peers xD
[06:18] <spyked-x> but... what was the command to install the restricted modules?
[06:18] <fladd> hi there. Is anyone familiar with this new KNetworkManager? Where does it save the WEP Keys? Because sometimes, or actually most of the time, it does not recognize my router and only after doing dhclient in the console for a few times it connects
[06:20] <flipstar> can some1 help me to get Cspace running?
[06:20] <jenda> Where can I find the 'restricted drivers manager' in Kubuntu?
[06:21] <llutz>  jenda /sbin/lrm-manager
[06:21] <jenda> llutz: and can it be clicked-to?
[06:21] <jenda> :)
[06:21] <llutz> i don't think so ;)
[06:23] <flipstar> where can i find "libc.so.6" ?
[06:23] <flipstar> for "ncrypt-0.6.4"
[06:23] <spyked-x> llutz: i just get "sorry, try again"
[06:23] <nick_> ciao/hello
[06:24] <flipstar> hi
[06:24] <nick_> hello
[06:25] <fladd> anyone using this knetworkmanager actually?
[06:25] <nick_> no sorry
[06:25] <creadorcreativo> fladd: here
[06:26] <jenda> llutz: I think it's not doing anything (I'm relaying this to another guy)
[06:26] <tibbar> I get this error when I ./configure wine:
[06:26] <tibbar> Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[06:26] <tibbar> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[06:26] <tibbar> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL development headers were found
[06:26] <jenda> llutz: for kde, is the command prefixed with kdesu?
[06:26] <llutz> jenda: what do you expect it should do? it just clear depmod-entries
[06:26] <fladd> creadorcreativo: do you also have the problems I stated above?
[06:26] <nick_> guys, why I can't join the #ubuntu-it channel?
[06:27] <jenda> llutz: gargh... I meant the tool that installs proprietary drivers
[06:27] <James_Mc_Gregor> re
[06:27] <llutz> jenda:sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-"your-kernel-version"
[06:27] <jenda> llutz: hm
[06:28] <jenda> llutz: is there no graphical tool?
[06:28] <llutz> jenda: syanptic? i don't use gui
[06:28] <llutz> synaptic, sry
[06:28] <dwidmann> jenda: not as far as I know
[06:29] <creadorcreativo> fladd: no, i dont use wep, my router doesnt have key, sorry
[06:29] <jenda> llutz, dwidmann, so is the restricted manager only for Gnome?
[06:29] <creadorcreativo> fladd: search in launchpad.net, maybe is a bug
[06:29] <dwidmann> jenda: looks that way :(
[06:29] <tibbar> do you need any special pakages to compile something in freisty
[06:29] <fladd> k ,thanks
[06:31] <giedrius> sveiki
[06:32] <jhutchins> tibbar: Are you using the kubuntu source package?
[06:34] <robbbbbb> hey guys
[06:34] <robbbbbb> where the heck is my garbage
[06:34] <robbbbbb> the only thing i remember is that i removed the icon out of the traybar
[06:36] <creadorcreativo> robbbbbb: alt+f2 and then write this: konqueror trash:/
[06:36] <dwidmann> robbbbbb:  right click the panel, add applet, trash should be in the list
[06:37] <darkforce_> how do you recover your nick in konversation.
[06:37] <chalcedny> ms
[06:37] <chalcedny> /me smiles
[06:37] <chalcedny> sigh
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> man, ktorrent has become about the most unstable app I've seen - even on windows :(
[06:39] <robbbbbb> thanks guys
[06:50] <dwidmann> Does anyone here know if there's a way to get katapult running in both screens with a xinerama setup?
[06:51] <boyke> can anyone tell me how to install java?
[06:51] <boyke> with apt-get
[06:58] <Zoohouse> ~~
[06:58] <Zoohouse> f
[06:59] <pestilence> what happened to acroread
[06:59] <pestilence> !acroread
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <dwidmann> !info acroread  | pestilence
[06:59] <ubotu> pestilence: Package acroread does not exist in feisty
[07:00] <pestilence> yea, so what happened to it :-/
[07:00] <pestilence> it existed in edgy
[07:00] <dwidmann> !info acroread edgy
[07:00] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:00] <pestilence> i did notice it was uninstalled when i upgraded
[07:00] <pestilence> i guess they decided nobody used it :-(
[07:01] <dwidmann> hard to say
[07:01] <pestilence> i suppose i can just re-install the edgy package
[07:02] <mehdi> slt tous le monde
[07:03] <dwidmann> Unfortunately, acroread has been removed from Ubuntu for feisty; its license does not allow redistribution.
[07:03] <llutz> "Unfortunately," lol
[07:03] <pestilence> that's dumb.  so they were breaking the license in edgy?
[07:03] <FeistyForge> acroread is bloated why do you want it?
[07:03] <pestilence> and they continue to do so since you can download the package from the official repos?
[07:04] <dwidmann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/+bug/78339
[07:04] <[EGC-i] ThinIce> Hi all, apologies if this is a stupid question - am upgrading to feisty but am being asked the "MD arrays needed for root filesystem:" I want to get this right but am confused as the install is on a sata disk rather than on a raid afaiaa
[07:04] <pestilence> FeistyForge: its interface is familiar, and works well.
[07:04] <FeistyForge> ok pestilence, nice argument I can't really complain about that one :)
[07:04] <FeistyForge> I'd still recommend kpdf
[07:04] <Trunkkis> I just upgraded to feisty fawn, and I can't see the difference...
[07:05] <dwidmann> kghostview works also
[07:05] <chijin> Trunkkis: it's not about bling bling
[07:05] <FeistyForge> Trunkkis if you try to install kompile there is a difference!
[07:05] <FeistyForge> lol
[07:05] <zoohouse> Trunkkis you upgraded or did a fresh install?
[07:05] <FeistyForge> feisty is nice....
[07:05] <Trunkkis> Upgraded
[07:06] <dwidmann> Trunkkis: Feisty was intended to do a lot under the hood, plus a lot of software upgrades, not just a themepack :P
[07:06] <zoohouse> Trunkkis if you are after a cool desktop then install beryl
[07:06] <FeistyForge> lol zoohouse
[07:06] <Trunkkis> nono
[07:06] <FeistyForge> beryl works in edgy don't NEED feisty for that
[07:07] <FeistyForge> (is it still buggy?)
[07:07] <zoohouse> FeistyForge i tried it not too long ago and it didn't seem buggy.. :)
[07:07] <zoohouse> But most blogs say it is buggy.. not sure why
[07:07] <Trunkkis> I like my desktop... But should this be faster, better, something?
[07:07] <pestilence> i suppose i'll give kpdf a shot before i re-install acroread
[07:07] <FeistyForge> well I know of 2 issues with it
[07:08] <pestilence> from what i remembered it was terribly slow due to the thumbnail crap
[07:08] <zoohouse> Trunkkis check out the release notes at ubuntu.com
[07:08] <FeistyForge> in ubuntu dapper at least it sometimes makes the window decorators flash annyoingly (I'd hate to have epilepsy put it that way)...
[07:08] <FeistyForge> and it also has problems with kde's pager....
[07:08] <FeistyForge> (doesn't match with it or something)
[07:08] <zoohouse> realy?
[07:08] <zoohouse> didn't notice...
[07:08] <pestilence> i also like how you can print multiple pages per page in acroread
[07:09] <zoohouse> I can't check now because I screwed up my xserver :( It won't load...
[07:09] <FeistyForge> I've got ATI radeon havn't even got beryl successfully working yet...
[07:09] <FeistyForge> but thats mostly due to my video card...
[07:09] <FeistyForge> if I had a different one that was more compatible I'm sure I'd have had it up and running by now
[07:09] <llutz> pestilence: that feature offers cups too, no need for bloat-ware
[07:09] <chijin> beryl works just fine with my ati
[07:10] <zoohouse> FeistyForge I have a MSI
[07:10] <dwidmann> zoohouse: get any errors on x startup?
[07:10] <FeistyForge> is that the motherboard or videocard?
[07:10] <pestilence> llutz: i have an aversion to bloat too, but i'd hardly consider acroread bloat.  icq...you got it right on the head, but acroread isn't bloat.
[07:10] <zoohouse> dwidmann it won'
[07:11] <zoohouse> woops
[07:11] <FeistyForge> pestilence we are talking adobe acrobat reader here aren't we?
[07:11] <zoohouse> dwidmann it won't load and then when I try to run "startx" it gives me 2 or 3 errors
[07:11] <llutz> pestilence: there are hardly functions acroread offers, others don't
[07:11] <dwidmann> zoohouse: those are what I would like to see
[07:11] <ike_> please how do i manage my free hotmail and yahoomail accounts from mozilla thunderbird
[07:12] <zoohouse> dwidmann give me a min, let me check.
[07:12] <pestilence> FeistyForge: yes
[07:12] <pestilence> llutz: how do you print multiple pages on one page, then?
[07:12] <llutz> pestilence: kde-printer dialog -> print multiple pages
[07:13] <llutz> pestilence: on console: a2ps :)
[07:13] <FeistyForge> evince/(k)ghostview/kpdf are small simple utils that read pdf, no need for adobe reader
[07:13] <pestilence> llutz: can it be done from inside kpdf?
[07:13] <pestilence> because i just tried and it didn't work
[07:13] <zoohouse> dwidmann ok 3 things faild (EE). 1. nvidia mod does not exist. 2 kbd mod does not exist. 3 mouse mod does not exist.
[07:13] <llutz> pestilence: it uses default kde-printing dialog, so yes
[07:14] <dromer> wtf, user cupsys (printing?) is runnnig some process called parallel which is taking up 95% of my cpu, asd I can't close it with sudo kill or killall
[07:14] <pestilence> llutz: doesn't work :-/
[07:14] <llutz> pestilence: works fine here since ages
[07:14] <ike_> please how do i manage my free hotmail and yahoomail accounts from mozilla thunderbird
[07:15] <ike_> please how do i manage my free hotmail and yahoomail accounts from mozilla thunderbird
[07:15] <zoohouse> dwidmann this happend because I installed a package and then kubuntu-desktop started uninstalling. I closed adept in the middle of the uninstall and on reboot, xserver wouldn't start.
[07:15] <llutz> pestilence: printer-> properties-> pages per sheet
[07:15] <zoohouse> ike_ do you have the free yahoo mail account?
[07:15] <dwidmann> hmmm, it thinks the module doesn't exist, try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[07:15] <pestilence> llutz: yes, i found that.  and it doesn't work
[07:16] <zoohouse> dwidmann ok let me switch over
[07:16] <Dumahen> hi all how can i add my hdd to grub loader which has win. OS ?
[07:16] <dromer> anybody know how I can kill this process 'parallel' ?
[07:16] <Dumahen> Skyblast: how r u ?
[07:16] <dromer> ohw, it magically disappeared now (I removed something from the printing list) so never mind :)
[07:16] <pestilence> llutz: i select 2 pages per sheet, then click "preview" (let's save some paper here), then print.  shows up as 1 page per sheet
[07:17] <llutz> pestilence: strange...
[07:17] <zoohouse> dwidmann it's installing as we speak
[07:17] <llutz> pestilence: printer-driver issue?
[07:17] <kalorin`> !google
[07:17] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[07:18] <pestilence> llutz: worse, it's cutting off the pages.
[07:18] <crube> I need to add 640x460 resolution to get Worms Armageddon running fullscreen. The problem is, that I can only use 1024x768 and 1280x800 resolutions (Laptop display). I tried adding a line to xorg.conf, but that didn't affect anything. 1024x768 isn't in xorg.conf, but still works.
[07:18] <Kosmonaut> Question: I ve got problems with flash in konqueror, the flash-plugin is loaded in and is "visible" in konquerors configuration-menu, but when i type in about:/plugins no flash plugins is available->So there is no flash in konqueror for me. My secondary user *has* flash enabled. Why can t my primary user get flash?
[07:18] <pestilence> llutz: perhaps, but i never had this problem with acroread ;)
[07:18] <pestilence> ahahaha
[07:18] <stamen> hi
[07:19] <pestilence> i just opened up the system settings -> printers, and it crashed
[07:19] <llutz> pestilence: ok you won, go and install it ;)
[07:19] <stamen> for what is this /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[07:19] <reydelsillon> dumbi dumb.....    Any easy way to reset all of my setups? i got a lot of applications i dont want no more.... i used the adept mamanger but it do not un-install all the crap ive been installing.
[07:19] <zoohouse> dwidmann a couple of more things failed now :\
[07:19] <zoohouse> let me see... let me type it over
[07:19] <dwidmann> zoohouse: which?
[07:19] <stamen> this appear in faisty
[07:19] <stamen> fawn\
[07:20] <Kosmonaut> any ideas for my flashproblem?
[07:20] <pestilence> llutz: it's configured as a "local raw printer", when i go to change the driver i get "unable to start the creation of the driver database.  the execution of make_driver_db_cups failed."
[07:21] <llutz> pestilence: sry no idea
[07:21] <llutz> pestilence: seems to be a broken cups-install or rights-issue
[07:21] <zoohouse> dwidmann (EE) Failed to start the nvidia kernel mod. Please make sure there is a supported GPU in this sys. Other things that fail: KDB, Mouse, and wfb. All with the 'mod does not exist' mesg.
[07:21] <pestilence> llutz: yea, you're probably right.
[07:22] <dwidmann> zoohouse: try running lspci | grep vga
[07:22] <ForMatter> !Libc6
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <zoohouse> k
[07:22] <dwidmann> wait, capitol VGA
[07:23] <ForMatter> Everyone,where i can get libc6 newer version..
[07:23] <zoohouse> dwidmann vga was not found
[07:23] <zoohouse> oh
[07:23] <zoohouse> ill try once more with cap
[07:24] <arriesp> hi
[07:25] <zoohouse> dwidmann says something down the lines of: VGA compatible controler: nVidea corp. NV34 [GForce FX 5500] 
[07:25] <stamen> so who can tell me hot to stop checking for mdadm in boot
[07:25] <llutz> Does anyone have an idea how to get rid of the suspend-buttons in kde-logout-screen?
[07:25] <ForMatter> !PPP
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <dwidmann> zoohouse: that vga should be supported, but for safety's sake, try removing nvidia-glx-new and installing nvidia-glx
[07:26] <zoohouse> dwidmann ok
[07:26] <ForMatter> !Wireless manager
[07:26] <NetersLandreau> i have a problem.. did the upgrade to 7 and now my computer won't boot even in single user mode.. hangs waiting usb device.. any clues?
[07:27] <BluesKaj> methinks the medibuntu repos is an absolute zoo right now ...really being sucked dry :)
[07:27] <Layer8> hi all
[07:27] <ForMatter> Flaccid : are online now..
[07:27] <Layer8> has someone upgraded edgy to 7.04 ?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Anyone having issues updating X?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> I keep having one package reinstalled over and over gain
[07:28] <NetersLandreau> Layer8: i'm having problems with that upgrade and am seeking help too
[07:28] <NetersLandreau> i seem to have lost fonts that stop the boot process
[07:29] <BluesKaj> the upgrage repositories are extremely busy right now : hence download and install probs galore
[07:29] <BluesKaj> err upgrade
[07:30] <zoohouse> dwidmann i ran startx and got this: all the (EE) that i told you about, KDB, Mouse, but not nvidia. then (EE) on xf860OpenSerial: can not open device. Then Fatal Server Error: Failed to initialize core devices
[07:30] <FeistyForge> anyone else had ARTS crash on startup?
[07:31] <dwidmann> FeistyForge: I've seen some weird errors with it in the past, like the infamouse CPU overloaded error
[07:31] <NetersLandreau> when i try to boot in single user mode, i get to setting up console font and keymap and get hung up there
[07:32] <FeistyForge> everything else works
[07:32] <dwidmann> zoohouse: got me ... I've no idea what xf860 is
[07:32] <DaSkreech> hi BluesKaj
[07:32] <zoohouse> dwidmann ekk
[07:32] <zoohouse> :)
[07:32] <thomax> hi, does anyone knows an aplication that records everything you deoo on your screen?
[07:33] <thomax> to avi
[07:33] <thomax> or mpeg
[07:33] <llutz> thomax: recordmydesktop (to ogg/theora)
[07:33] <thomax> ok
[07:33] <thomax> I'll try it
[07:33] <thomax> thanks
[07:33] <zoohouse> humm.. Can you upload ogg to YouTube?
[07:34] <thomax> don't know
[07:34] <dwidmann> zoohouse: is it possible that there is an error in your xorg.conf file?
[07:34] <gatewayasteroid> hello everybody
[07:35] <zoohouse> dwidmann maybe, but I am using the.... wait a minute! I forgot to tell you that I am curently using the config file back up I made before installing nvidia! that might be it right?
[07:36] <zoohouse> dwidmann is it possiable to load withoug nvida? I mean, i don't mind fixing the vid drivers if I can do it while in a GUI
[07:36] <zoohouse> without*
[07:37] <gatewayasteroid> do anybody experienced this: https://launchpad.net/bugs/95868
[07:37] <zoohouse> thomax yea you can upload ogg to youtube, cool, I didn't know that.
[07:37] <dwidmann> zoohouse: to load without nvidia would require you to redo the config file
[07:37] <zoohouse> ah...
[07:37] <thomax> cool
[07:37] <dwidmann> sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:37] <thomax> thanx
[07:37] <zoohouse> what does the phigh flag do?
[07:38] <zoohouse> thomax np
[07:39] <boyee> hi
[07:39] <boyee> any one here?
[07:39] <boyee> I have a question to ask!
[07:39] <zoohouse> dwidmann it says to specify a package
[07:39] <zoohouse> boyee just ask man
[07:39] <frojnd> hello there has someone managed to connect logitech HS03-Vxx headset with a blue tooth adapter ?? can someone tell me how to connect those two things?
[07:39] <kalorin`> heh
[07:39] <kalorin`> !ms-sys
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms-sys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <boyee> I don't know the root's password!!!
[07:40] <zoohouse> boyee the root password is the same as the first user's password
[07:40] <boyee> OH,I 'll try it ,Thanks a lot!
[07:41] <zoohouse> boyee lay off the !
[07:41] <zoohouse> dwidmann did you read my last msg?
[07:42] <dwidmann> ERm, yes
[07:42] <zoohouse> dwidmann it said to specify a package
[07:42] <dwidmann> maybe
[07:42] <dwidmann> I think
[07:42] <zoohouse> heh
[07:42] <dwidmann> but you did ... xserver-xorg ...
[07:42] <zoohouse> i know, weird... let me try oncemore
[07:43] <zoohouse> ekk, my bad...
[07:43] <zoohouse> dwidmann changing screens has my head in a knot
[07:43] <zoohouse> heh
[07:43] <ian__> what's the ubuntu equivalent to the windows "ipconfig" command
[07:43] <dwidmann> if you say so
[07:44] <creadorcreativo> ian__: ifconfig
[07:44] <ian__> ty
[07:44] <zoohouse> dwidmann what is the driver i should get?
[07:45] <zoohouse> is there a generic?
[07:46] <dwidmann> zoohouse: vesa and nv would both work
[07:46] <facugaich> Hi, kubuntu isn't shutting down the computer properly, I think it might have something to do with acpi
[07:46] <boyee> My VGA is Geforce GO 7300
[07:46] <boyee> How to get its driver?
[07:46] <zoohouse> dwidmann i don't see vesa, but i see nVidia at the bottom. I am going to choose nVidia.
[07:47] <dwidmann> boyee: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:47] <dwidmann> ** sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[07:47] <dwidmann> zoohouse: that won't work
[07:47] <dwidmann> zoohouse: trust me ... using the nVidiai driver requires customization that dpkg-reconfigure won't do
[07:48] <dwidmann> pluas as far as I can tell you were having trouble with it
[07:48] <zoohouse> dwidmann then I need to choose another... don't see vga tho...
[07:48] <dwidmann> zoohouse: did I say vga? If so I meant vesa
[07:49] <zoohouse> dwidmann i meant to say vesa
[07:49] <zoohouse> i don't have vesa listed
[07:50] <boubbin> X wont run again when i log off form kde or use ctrl+alt+backspace, how can i fix thiss ?
[07:50] <dwidmann> zoohouse: that's odd
[07:50] <boubbin> but when i do startx, it runs normally
[07:50] <dwidmann> zoohouse: how about nv?
[07:50] <zoohouse> dwidmann I don't have nv but like i said before nVidia is listed
[07:51] <dwidmann> zoohouse: and like I said you have to do something different to configure it for use with nvidia ... you have to - have to - run sudo nvidia-xconfig or it won't work afterwards
[07:51] <zoohouse> dwidmann it has ati, ark, apm, mga... a few others too
[07:51] <boyee> boyee@boyeestudio:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:51] <boyee> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[07:51] <boyee> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[07:51] <boyee> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:52] <boyee> It don't show me with GUI?
[07:52] <dwidmann> zoohouse: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-nv
[07:52] <zoohouse> k
[07:53] <dwidmann> zoohouse: (for the record, "nvidia" = the proprietary driver that you were trying to use before, not something different)
[07:53] <tatters> screen saver stays blank in KDE ,,,yet works fine in Gnome
[07:53] <frojnd> what do I have to set in audio settings to listen the music through logitech's bluetooth headset???
[07:55] <boyee> How to set the resolution?
[07:55] <boyee> I can't set it to 1280x800
[07:55] <boyee> Help!
[07:55] <zoohouse> dwidmann ok I downloaded nv and vesa. I ran the confix and selected vesa. I then ran startx. Still doesn't work. same error as before about the xf860
[07:55] <boyee> I have it downed!
[07:55] <wolferine> anyone use pureftpd?
[07:56] <kilrae> is it just me or are the repositories all down?
[07:56] <zoohouse> dwidmann sa, probblem when useing nb
[07:56] <zoohouse> nv*
[07:56] <zoohouse> problem*
[07:56] <Dumahen> i couldnt do it :( i couldnt add my win. installed hdd to grub loader :(:(:(
[07:56] <mueslix> hey guys
[07:56] <mueslix> any devs / package maintainers in here?
[07:57] <zoohouse> Dumahen there's great how to's online... Iv had the same problem b4
[07:57] <mueslix> the kolab dependancy for feisty is still broken. bug reports exist, so i wonder what the status is?
[07:58] <kilrae> interesting
[07:58] <wolferine> i am wondering if there is a GUI for pureftpd
[07:58] <kilrae> there's a config file...
[07:59] <dwidmann> zoohouse: problem?
[07:59] <zoohouse> wolferine yes there is
[07:59] <wolferine> how do I start it then?
[07:59] <dwidmann> mueslix: there probably are, whether they're active, here, awake, and nonidle is another story
[07:59] <mjunx> can I get some feisty and edgy users to help test a bug for me? it's very painless and only takes like 30 seconds
[07:59] <zoohouse> dwidmann same prob as before. When I run with dv or vesa, I get the same error as before with the xf8 thing
[08:00] <mueslix> dwidmann: didn't expect anything else ;-) i'll guess i linger around for a while
[08:00] <zoohouse> wolferine get kcmpureftpd or pureadmin
[08:00] <dwidmann> zoohouse: guess we've eliminated nvidia driver as the source of the problem then zoohouse
[08:00] <mueslix> i just wonder if there's a real issue or if it's just a depandancy fuckup
[08:00] <zoohouse> dwidmann yea, can't be nvidia...
[08:00] <wolferine> !language | mueslix
[08:00] <ubotu> mueslix: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:01] <mueslix> lol
[08:01] <mjunx> that was fast
[08:01] <mueslix> a depandancy fuckup is a depandancy fuckup, call it whatever you wish :)
[08:01] <zoohouse> dwidmann this is so weird..
[08:01] <dwidmann> zoohouse: !paste your xorg.conf
[08:01] <dwidmann> !paste | zoohouse
[08:01] <ubotu> zoohouse: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <mjunx> does anyone know what kind of video card they have (e.g., intel, ati, nvidia) and can test something out real quick with ksnapshot?
[08:02] <zoohouse> dwidmann i would love to but I can't copy and paste...
[08:02] <zoohouse> dwidmann i am using links as my web browser
[08:02] <dwidmann> zoohouse: hmm, there might be a way to do it
[08:03] <zoohouse> and bitchx as my irc client
[08:03] <mjunx> just press print screen, choose the "Region" option for "Capture mode", select a region of the screen, and tell me if you get weird artifacts that appear from the mouse dragging over the area
[08:03] <mjunx> best done on a white background
[08:03] <dwidmann> zoohouse: especially seeing as shift + insert works as copy and paste :)
[08:03] <zoohouse> dwidmann one sec, someone is at the house. I will be back in a momment
[08:04] <ricardo> algum a que fale portugus
[08:04] <mjunx> !pa
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <wolferine> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:05] <mjunx> he's speaking portuguese
[08:05] <wolferine> !po
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <mjunx> maybe we don't have a channel for that :(
[08:05] <wolferine> mjunx, thats a bit too obvious
[08:05] <wolferine> hehe
[08:05] <mueslix> wolferine: are you the channel watchdog? :)
[08:05] <lontra> !Portuguese
[08:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:05] <wolferine> mueslix, yes
[08:05] <mueslix> wolferine: must be a tough job
[08:06] <mjunx> pt, oh
[08:06] <xeemeex> hi, and excuse for my english
[08:06] <mjunx> wolferine, could you try testing out my bug I mentioned?
[08:06] <xeemeex> can I do some question?
[08:06] <pestilence> !ask
[08:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:06] <mjunx> yeah, that
[08:06] <Whiz2> is gparted a command line only application, or can I run it on KDE?
[08:06] <_4strO> !ask | xeemeex
[08:06] <ubotu> xeemeex: please see above
[08:06] <_4strO> ^^
[08:06] <mjunx> gparted is a graphical app
[08:07] <mjunx> and you can run it on KDE
[08:07] <Whiz2> then why can't i find it in add/remove programs? (Adept installer)
[08:07] <cBau> 'yar, gparted works all fancy GUIlike
[08:07] <mjunx> hmm, I'll check
[08:07] <dwidmann> I heard Feisty has a new partitioning tool for Kubuntu, but I've not gotten to play with it yet :(
[08:07] <cBau> use Adept package manager, noy installer
[08:08] <xeemeex> how can I allow only some users (or groups) to do something specific?
[08:08] <pestilence> how about trying qtparted
[08:08] <wolferine> :)
[08:08] <Whiz2> i'm adding a new hard drive to my system, and need to copy the system partition to it, and make it bigger, make it bootable, then swap them, and boot from it. someone the other day suggested gparted
[08:08] <facugaich> Hi, my computer is not shutting down properly, I think it's got something to do with acpi maybe
[08:08] <xeemeex> avoding to enter passwords
[08:08] <mjunx> adept installer seems to just show KDE programs, so use adept manager, Whiz2
[08:09] <wolferine> Whiz2, that will keep the data on the drive
[08:09] <Whiz2> mjunx: ok but how do I start the app? when I use Adept manager, it doesn't add icons to the desktop, panels, or the K menu
[08:09] <wolferine> but its not 100% accurate
[08:09] <_4strO> xeemeex:
[08:09] <wolferine> so copy the entire drive, if possible
[08:09] <_4strO> xeemeex: system /setting / user manager
[08:10] <mjunx> Whiz2, when you install an application via adept, if the icon isn't added to the k menu, try logging out and back in to kde
[08:10] <Whiz2> wolferine: the drive is only one partition
[08:10] <Whiz2> mjunx: I've tried that, and it doesn't add it
[08:10] <mjunx> Whiz2, have you tried installing it via the command line?
[08:11] <wolferine> Whiz2, so you might want to setup a few partitions on your new drive
[08:11] <Whiz2> mjunx: the onlytime I ever see icons added to the k menu, desktop, or panels is when I use Adept Installer
[08:11] <cBau> Whiz2: Just to clarify, Add/Remove Programs opens as Adept Installer and doesn't work as I can see. Adept Manager in the System menu will work
[08:11] <wolferine> Whiz2, the way I have it, I use a 30GB partition for / and the rest for /home
[08:11] <mjunx> Whiz2, that's odd, it works for me usually
[08:11] <ian-leckey> hey
[08:11] <zoohouse> dwidmann back
[08:11] <ian-leckey> where in Kubuntu can I set the default browser?
[08:12] <ian-leckey> (if poss)
[08:12] <mjunx> Whiz2, try this: quit out of adept installer first, then press Alt+F2
[08:12] <Whiz2> wolferine: the current one is 2.x GB, and the new one is 4.X GB. i just want to copy the entire partition over & expand it
[08:12] <ian-leckey> I've got firefox and prefer it to Konquerer
[08:12] <mjunx> ian-leckey, it's in konqueror settings I think
[08:12] <mjunx> file associations
[08:12] <zoohouse> dwidmann I think i am going to reinstall because I need the computer be working soon for a test i need to take online
[08:12] <mjunx> oh wait, no
[08:12] <lontra> wolferine: 30GB for / that's a bit of an overkill :)
[08:12] <_4strO> ian-leckey: system setting / default application  maybe
[08:12] <mjunx> ian-leckey, system settings : default applications
[08:13] <mjunx> it's there
[08:13] <Whiz2> mjunx: are you trying to send me to a TTY
[08:13] <mjunx> web browser
[08:13] <mjunx> no, Whiz2
[08:13] <BluesKaj>  su -c "make install" is refusing my password ... never had that prob before ...what's the fix?
[08:13] <mjunx> with the run dialogue, type "kdesu adept_manager"
[08:13] <xeemeex> and then?
[08:13] <mjunx> make sure that adept manager actually works
[08:13] <_4strO> BluesKaj: sudo ?
[08:13] <mjunx> BluesKaj, su uses the root password
[08:13] <_4strO> lol
[08:13] <zoohouse> dwidmann Thank you so much for your help. I'll see you soon.
[08:13] <Whiz2> mjunx: i use the adept manager from within the system menu inside the K menu. i know it works
[08:14] <mjunx> BluesKaj, you could also use "sudo make install"
[08:14] <wolferine> lontra, I would rather have to much space rather then not enough
[08:14] <BluesKaj> sudo doesn't work, mjunx
[08:14] <mjunx> Whiz2, then try using a terminal, do "sudo aptitude install gparted"
[08:14] <wolferine> i used up 14GB until yesterday, when I reformatted and installed Feisty
[08:14] <mjunx> BluesKaj, have you touched the sudoers file?
[08:14] <Whiz2> mjunx: aptitude? what is that?
[08:14] <mjunx> another way to install packages
[08:14] <wolferine> !aptitude | Whiz2
[08:14] <ubotu> Whiz2: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:14] <_4strO> think apt-get is better
[08:14] <Whiz2> mjunx: i usually use apt-get
[08:15] <mjunx> I use aptitude because debian recommends it and has done so since 3.1 (released in 2005 btw)
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ok mjunx, that worked...had me worried for a minute :)
[08:15] <_4strO> really mjunx ?
[08:15] <mjunx> and aptitude is better with dependency handling
[08:15] <mjunx> yeah
[08:16] <mjunx> apt-get still works, but it's missing out on a lot of useful features from aptitude
[08:16] <_4strO> mjunx: i dont like that aptitude install by defaut the suggested package
[08:16] <mjunx> it installs recommended ones
[08:16] <mjunx> not suggested
[08:16] <BluesKaj> yes I've used it in the past ...but I was following a tutorial and was copy&pasting the cmnds
[08:16] <_4strO> oups right
[08:16] <mjunx> and you can disable that too
[08:16] <mjunx> but installing recommended packages is a feature that I like since it completes the functionality of programs usually
[08:17] <Whiz2> mjunx: if i use aptitude to uninstall something I installed with apt-get, will it still remove the dependecies no longer needed?
[08:17] <mjunx> I don't know
[08:17] <mjunx> probably not since it keeps track of package installs its own way
[08:17] <mjunx> but apt-get has some thing called autoremove
[08:17] <Whiz2> autoclean
[08:17] <mjunx> yeah, that
[08:17] <_4strO> clean
[08:17] <Whiz2> i use that
[08:18] <mjunx> wait, uh
[08:18] <_4strO> autoremove or vlean
[08:18] <_4strO> clean*
[08:18] <mjunx> no, autoremove
[08:18] <_4strO> but it's not the same thing
[08:18] <mjunx> which sorta does what aptitude does
[08:18] <Whiz2> clean and autoclean it removes downloaded packages, but not installed items
[08:18] <mjunx> but it sucks at it in my experience
[08:18] <mjunx> because you can't override it
[08:18] <Alonea> ok, when I try to open this video file, it causes all of my video players to crash.
[08:18] <Whiz2> overide what exactly?
[08:18] <mjunx> you can't say, "no, I _WANT_ to keep that damn package, but I don't mind if you remove the rest"
[08:19] <Whiz2> mjunx: if I'm not using a package, i WANT it removed
[08:19] <mjunx> like, if I do an apt-get build-dep, apt-get doesn't seem to think those packages were installed by me
[08:19] <mjunx> I can't override it and say which packages I _AM_ using so it can remove the ones I'm not
[08:20] <Whiz2> is there a way for me to remove packages that are no longer dependecies for any other packages?
[08:20] <eXistenZ> My PC just moves so slowly after I installed java
[08:20] <Whiz2> i removed java
[08:20] <mjunx> well, there are other programs that search your installed packages and does it for you
[08:20] <_4strO> Alonea: your file is probably corrupt
[08:20] <Whiz2> my system is a dedicated web/email server
[08:20] <Alonea> _4strO: http://www.pastebin.ca/456190
[08:21] <Whiz2> mjunx: can you suggest one? i'm trying to free up as much space as I can without losing the stuff I need
[08:21] <mjunx> I'm looking, gimme a sec
[08:21] <Whiz2> ok
[08:21] <jannes> how do i activate smooth scolling in kde?
[08:21] <Alonea> _4strO: its a weird format. its an .mp4 with the x264 thing.
[08:21] <mjunx> !debfoster
[08:21] <ubotu> debfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/
[08:22] <mjunx> Alonea, is it in HD?
[08:22] <mjunx> because your computer might not be able to play it...
[08:22] <gemidjy> how can I get rid of the stupid Progress Dialog in Feisty ? :)
[08:22] <_4strO> Alonea: dpkg -l | grep libmp4v2-0
[08:22] <Alonea> mjunx: yeah, file is yada.HR.HDTV.x264.mp4
[08:23] <chalcedony> I've been trying to help my husband set up AIM in Gaim on kubuntu. I'm not having any luck.
[08:23] <Alonea> _4strO: ii  libmp4v2-0   2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3   MP4 container library - runtime files
[08:23] <mjunx> Alonea, if the file's resolution overlaps your's, or if your computer isn't fast enough to decode it in realtime (common with HD x264), the media player will usually crash
[08:23] <mjunx> usually with an error like
[08:24] <oliver> Hello
[08:24] <mjunx> X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)10.4% 13 0 97%
[08:24] <oliver> I have a problem
[08:24] <mjunx> and one of us have a solution
[08:24] <Whiz2> mjunx: if i accidentally removed something the system needs, think debfoster would see this & reinstall it for me auto?
[08:24] <_4strO> Alonea: there is a x264-bin package but it looks like an encoder, perhaps try to install it
[08:25] <mjunx> Whiz2, I don't believe it will automatically remove anything that's marked as a high priority
[08:25] <_4strO> !ask | oliver
[08:25] <ubotu> oliver: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:25] <mjunx> x264-bin is an encoder
[08:25] <Whiz2> mjunx: no imean if I did it using the adept manager
[08:25] <mjunx> you just need ffmpeg (or xine or gstreamer-ffmpeg)
[08:25] <oliver> I have connected to my wireless router but it won't get me an IP I just get 0.0.0.0
[08:25] <Alonea> _4strO: I did install it because i could not figure out how to install their source thing.
[08:25] <Alonea> mjunx: I have all of those
[08:25] <mjunx> Alonea, then it might be a resources issue
[08:25] <Whiz2> mjunx: i removed some stuff the other day and i dunno if I fixed it right  when I put it back
[08:26] <mjunx> try playing it in mplayer
[08:26] <mjunx> Whiz2, try installing kubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <mjunx> to make sure you've got everything from the base install
[08:26] <Whiz2> ok
[08:26] <oliver> 4str0, I have connected to my wireless router but it won't get me an IP I just get 0.0.0.0
[08:26] <_4strO> oliver: i sa
[08:26] <mjunx> oliver, try running dhclient3 again
[08:26] <_4strO> i saw
[08:26] <Alonea> mjunx: get a fatal error when I try to play it
[08:27] <mjunx> Alonea, and that error is?
[08:27] <_4strO> Alonea: and with vlc too ?
[08:27] <oliver> mjunx, how do I do that
[08:27] <_4strO> oliver: type dhclient3 in a console
[08:27] <oliver> ok
[08:27] <mjunx> oliver, in a terminal, type "sudo dhclient3"
[08:27] <mjunx> need the sudo I think
[08:27] <_4strO> yes probably
[08:28] <Whiz2> ubuntu-base is the critical stuff for kubuntu install right?
[08:28] <mjunx> Whiz2, kubuntu-desktop is
[08:28] <Whiz2> what is ubuntu-base?
[08:28] <oliver> I will be back in a sec
[08:28] <mjunx> no such package, Whiz2
[08:28] <Whiz2> debfoster is asking about it
[08:29] <mjunx> well, it sounds like a metapackage, keep it
[08:29] <Whiz2> ok
[08:29] <mjunx> like, sounds important
[08:29] <Alonea> _4strO: I dont have VLC, but I have tried kaffiene, mplayer, totem, xine, and xmms
[08:29] <_4strO> Alonea: vlc works differently than the other player, it sont use codec
[08:29] <mjunx> Alonea, what's the error?
[08:30] <mjunx> _4strO, vlc uses the same thing practically everything else does: ffmpeg
[08:30] <mjunx> and if ffh264 is crashing on decode, we've got a universal problem
[08:30] <humbolto> How can I permanently create a new device (e.g. cpuid)?
[08:30] <Alonea> mjunx: it was the -vo thing.
[08:30] <_4strO> mjunx: i dont thing so, it has his own media decoder
[08:30] <mjunx> _4strO, I know what makes up VLC, and it uses ffh264 for decoding H.264
[08:30] <Whiz2> can i remove libgimp-perl if I don't use/have gimp?
[08:31] <mjunx> vlc, xine, and mplayer (the big 3) are mostly based on mplayer's ffmpeg libraries
[08:31] <renato> hi, I have installed kbfx on kubuntu, bit how am I supposed to make it work? I open it's panel, select a theme press "apply"....and?? nothing seem to happen
[08:31] <mjunx> Whiz2, yes
[08:31] <Whiz2> ok
[08:31] <mjunx> renato, it takes a little while to apply the new theme
[08:31] <renato> a little while like.... how much?
[08:32] <mjunx> like, 10-20 seconds at most I think
[08:32] <mjunx> if nothing happens, try a different theme
[08:32] <renato> waiting.....
[08:32] <khaije1> i'm having an odd problem w/ my filesystem showing full when it isn't.
[08:32] <khaije1> detail here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17437/ any ideas?
[08:32] <mjunx> khaije1, is it almost full? like 95% full?
[08:32] <FeistyForge> !grub
[08:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:32] <Alonea> mjunx: well, there are 2 x364 packages in adept, but the say they are for "encoding" h264/avc streams. what about decode?
[08:32] <khaije1> mjunx: no like 100%
[08:33] <mjunx> Alonea, ffmpeg decodes it
[08:33] <Alonea> mjunx: I mean x264
[08:33] <mjunx> look for ffmpeg
[08:33] <mjunx> x264 is an encoder
[08:33] <mjunx> and only an encoder really
[08:33] <renato> mjunx, does it have any problem (or naythig to do) with Ati-drivers? here nothing is happening at all
[08:33] <khaije1> in actuality is is probably only about a third full
[08:33] <mjunx> renato, doubtful
[08:33] <Alonea> mjunx: ffmpeg is installed
[08:34] <mjunx> khaije1, you do know that 5% of the file system is reserved for root in case of an emergency like this, right?
[08:34] <renato> anybody has tried kbfd on feisty x86_64?
[08:34] <mjunx> Alonea, when you try playing it in mplayer, what error do you get?
[08:34] <khaije1> it still doesn't explain the output mjunx
[08:34] <nbcb> what is needed to play rmvb files?
[08:34] <nbcb> !rmvb
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <_4strO> !codecs | nbcb
[08:34] <ubotu> nbcb: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <mjunx> try mplayer -msglevel 4
[08:35] <Alonea> mjunx: i told you, that -vo error thing. error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[08:35] <mjunx> Alonea, try -vo xv
[08:35] <renato> mjunx: is there anything that has to be enabled to let kbfx work?
[08:35] <mjunx> renato, not that I know of
[08:35] <renato> mjunx: is there anything that has to be enabled to let kbfx work?
[08:35] <nbcb> it doesn't talk about rmvb files
[08:35] <mjunx> although, in my experience, kbfx is a buggy POS, but that's just my opinion ;)
[08:36] <mjunx> nbcb, rmvb is real media
[08:36] <Alonea> mjunx: i am confused on that last command. it didn't work. I never do mplayer in command line
[08:36] <mjunx> try installing helix-player or realplayer
[08:36] <renato> mjunx, I never, NEVER managed to get it working, but I thought it was me, now this package (supposely) has been tried and tested....
[08:36] <mjunx> Alonea, do "mplayer -msglevel 4 file.mp4"
[08:36] <chx> so. There is Amarok. Very good one. I would like to have a global hotkey which flags the music i listen to as good stuff -- I listen to various music as background, and it would be great if later on i would have my favorites collected.
[08:36] <mjunx> renato, like I said, it's a buggy POS
[08:37] <mjunx> chx, try settings -> global shortcuts
[08:37] <renato> it seems like
[08:37] <nbcb> so i need real player?
[08:37] <_4strO> nbcb: dont think so
[08:37] <mjunx> nbcb, you can probably just install the nonfree codecs
[08:37] <chx> mjunx: so far, so good but what action?
[08:37] <_4strO> yes
[08:37] <mjunx> but if that doesn't work, realplayer can definitely play it
[08:37] <mjunx> although it's in multiverse I believe
[08:37] <mjunx> !realplayer
[08:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <chx> oh Rate Current Track: 1?
[08:37] <mjunx> chx, see if "love it" "hate it" and "skip" are there
[08:38] <mjunx> oh, you can rate tracks globally, yeah
[08:38] <mjunx> 1-5 stars
[08:38] <Alonea> mjunx: http://www.pastebin.ca/456215
[08:38] <wolferine> need a hand using pureFTP, pureadmin really
[08:38] <wolferine> i have to keep added a user
[08:38] <mjunx> Alonea, well that's just freakin' great...
[08:38] <wolferine> each time I want to edit
[08:38] <chx> mjunx: i do not see 'love it' or 'hate it' , i am on breezy still
[08:38] <nbcb> what are the nonfree codecs needed for rmvb? i just installed realplayer10
[08:38] <chx> mjunx: skip is there
[08:39] <wolferine> and i cannot "lock" the user either
[08:39] <Alonea> mjunx: what?
[08:39] <_4strO> !poncuatioon
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poncuatioon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <mjunx> chx, ok, that's only for last.fm things anyhow, you can use the "rate current track 1/2/3/4/5" shortcuts though
[08:39] <_4strO> !poncuation
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poncuation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <_4strO> oups
[08:39] <mjunx> punctuation?
[08:39] <nbcb> its playing but its damn laggy something might be wrong
[08:40] <mjunx> nbcb, libxine-extracodecs
[08:40] <wolferine> !spelling _4strO
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling _4stro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <wolferine> lol
[08:40] <chx> mjunx: and after i marked it five.... I just looked around in the menues and I found nothing.
[08:40] <Alonea> mjunx: what is wrong?
[08:40] <mjunx> Alonea, the correct command would be "mplayer -msglevel all=4 file.mp4", sorry
[08:41] <mjunx> chx, you can see the rating for a song if you add the "rating" column to the playlist
[08:41] <Alonea> mjunx: YAY! it works
[08:41] <mjunx> your if you view the properties of a song
[08:41] <mjunx> Alonea, the video? or the debug?
[08:41] <mjunx> !aspel | _4strO
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aspel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <mjunx> !aspell | _4strO
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aspell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
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[08:42] <_4strO> lol mjunx
[08:42] <jhutchins> !info aspell
[08:42] <Alonea> mjunx: the video! how do I fast forward in this?
[08:42] <ubotu> aspell: GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.4-4 (feisty), package size 124 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[08:42] <Alonea> mjunx: or pause for that matter
[08:42] <mjunx> Alonea, arrow keys and pgup/pgdown
[08:42] <mjunx> space is pause
[08:42] <mjunx> left and right skip by like 10 seconds or so
[08:42] <mjunx> up and down skip 1 minut
[08:42] <Whiz2> i can uninstgall ALL printer drivers/tools if i do not want a printer attached right? (stupid question)
[08:42] <mjunx> pgup and pgdown skip 10 minutes
[08:43] <_4strO> mjunx: msglevel all=4 is for pass out error message ?
[08:43] <mjunx> Whiz2, probably, but it's nice to have it installed just in case (it's not that huge)
[08:43] <gemidjy> how can I get rid of the stupid Progress Dialog in Feisty ? :)
[08:43] <mjunx> _4strO, it gives informational messages for all modules
[08:43] <Whiz2> mjunx: none of the printers I have are even compatible
[08:43] <mjunx> 9 is the highest debug level
[08:43] <Whiz2> so i have no need
[08:43] <mjunx> Whiz2, then it's ok, get rid of 'em
[08:43] <Whiz2> ok
[08:43] <Yorokobi> which progress dialog, gemidjy
[08:44] <_4strO> ok
[08:44] <chx> hehhhh if i have a track with a play count of 89 that probably means 'love it' :P
[08:44] <_4strO> brb mates
[08:44] <nu> hi guys
[08:44] <mjunx> hiya
[08:44] <gemidjy> Yorokobi: when you do everything, when you create files on the desktop, when you copy files, when you download from ftp, when this, when that...everything has this new "feature"
[08:44] <Yorokobi> gemidjy, use the command line
[08:44] <Whiz2> is koffice anything like MS-Office?
[08:44] <mjunx> the file copy dialogue, gemidjy?
[08:45] <gemidjy> mjunx: the everything dialog
[08:45] <mjunx> Whiz2, openoffice is more like MS office
[08:45] <gemidjy> Yorokobi: don't be so helpful, pls :)
[08:45] <mjunx> gemidjy, that's a KDE thing
[08:45] <Whiz2> then what is Koffice?
[08:45] <mjunx> koffice is another office suite
[08:45] <nbcb> !mediaconvert
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaconvert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <mjunx> same goal, but the interface is kinda different
[08:45] <Yorokobi> gemidjy, you won't get progress dialogs when you use cp or mv
[08:45] <gemidjy> Yorokobi: I use the comand line, but If I was total newb I was going to say "whoaaa?? what is that??"
[08:45] <nbcb> what's the app to convert one video to another format
[08:45] <mjunx> it has a word processor, spreadsheet, presentation thinger, database editor, etc.
[08:46] <gemidjy> Yorokobi: end users dont need the command line, don't make the things worse
[08:46] <mjunx> nbcb, there's a lot, but transcode and mencoder are a couple good ones
[08:46] <mhb> hi kubuntu lovers
[08:46] <mhb> and friends
[08:46] <Whiz2> kate isn't part of that is it?
[08:46] <mjunx> Whiz2, kate is the kde advanced text editor
[08:46] <Whiz2> ok so no lol
[08:46] <mjunx> kate is part of kdebase I believe
[08:46] <nbcb> what's the one that uses kommander
[08:46] <mhb> is it possible to change the "Launch Feedback" to the Ubuntu-style busy cursor?
[08:46] <nbcb> i forgot
[08:46] <mjunx> I wouldn't recommend removing anything from kdebase
[08:46] <mjunx> mhb, yes
[08:47] <mhb> mjunx: cool, do you know how then? :o)
[08:47] <_StefanS_> evening
[08:47] <mjunx> checking, mhb
[08:47] <mhb> mjunx: I tried the "Launch Feedback" option in kcontrol, but no luck
[08:47] <nu> does anybody here know how to make konqueror start playing videos right away over a smb share, instead of downloading them locally first ?
[08:47] <mjunx> "Visual feedback on activation" tickbox in mouse
[08:48] <gemidjy> mjunx: I don't think so
[08:48] <mjunx> nu, I don't think kaffeine is any good at kio-slaves
[08:48] <nu> welp i've got vlc up and running
[08:48] <mjunx> nu, you might be able to stream them using noatun or something, though
[08:48] <nu> hm actually lemme check
[08:49] <mjunx> nu, you can also check out smbfs
[08:49] <gemidjy> mjunx: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4262/winyf7.png this is the annoying window
[08:49] <Whiz2> gee... bluetooth can go...
[08:49] <Whiz2> lol
[08:49] <mjunx> gemidjy, I've never seen that before :/
[08:50] <nu> you mean, by installing smbfs will kde mount it and stream it instead of accessing files remotely each time?
[08:50] <Vincent_k> I cant login to kde from kdm.. I type my pswd and the screen gets black and then I get back in to kdm? any suggestions?
[08:50] <nu> i hadnt thought of that
[08:50] <Vincent_k> I upgraded from edgy to feisty
[08:50] <nu> cos indeed vlc wants to download the file locally as well
[08:50] <mjunx> nu, no, smbfs let's you mount a smb share as a normal mount so that anything can access it like a local filesystem
[08:50] <nu> i'll try smbfs
[08:50] <nu> yup that's what i meant mjunx
[08:50] <mjunx> yeah, I do that except with sshfs, nu, :)
[08:51] <EsC> hi
[08:51] <nu> you mean by tunneling an ssh connection ?
[08:51] <mjunx> and with mplayer (which also claims support for samba, and it usually streams when it can)
[08:51] <mjunx> nu, basically
[08:51] <nu> i thought kubuntu came bundled with smbfs and that konqueror was using it, to be fairly honest
[08:51] <nu> turns out it doesnt :)
[08:51] <mjunx> it's like sftp except using normal commands available to ssh like ls, mkdir, rm, rmdir, etc.
[08:52] <mjunx> nu, kde uses kio-slaves, and as bleeping useful as they are, some "kde" programs don't support them
[08:52] <mjunx> amarok comes to mind >_>
[08:52] <nu> i see
[08:52] <nu> kio-slaves
[08:52] <mhb> mjunx: I tried that, no luck (I had it checked before, unchecking doesn't help, still the bouncy cursor)
[08:52] <gemidjy> mjunx: u are using Feisty?
[08:53] <Whiz2> kdeprint is part of kdebase, but i have no use for a printer on that machine... can i still remove it?
[08:53] <nbcb> what's a easy gui base video convertor?
[08:53] <Layer8> hi again
[08:53] <mjunx> gemidjy, yeah
[08:54] <nu> oh another question
[08:54] <mjunx> Whiz2, kdeprint doesn't have printer drivers or anything
[08:54] <Layer8> has anyone here upgraded from edgy to feisty?
[08:54] <nu> is there a way in kmix to control multiple volumes at once ?
[08:54] <mjunx> mhb, I know the option is somewhere
[08:54] <mjunx> Layer8, yeah, painfully
[08:54] <nu> my laptop (running kubuntu feisty) has different master channels for when you use headphones or main speakers
[08:54] <mjunx> nu, just control the PCM channel then
[08:54] <Layer8> mjunx i have problems with the automount of external usb disks...
[08:55] <nu> well PCM won't lower sound coming out in my headphones
[08:55] <nu> :|
[08:55] <nbcb> !convert
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <mjunx> nu, that's real odd
[08:55] <nbcb> !video
[08:55] <nu> indeed...
[08:55] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:55] <mjunx> Layer8, like via fstab sort of automounting, or via kde?
[08:55] <nu> pcm works for laptop speakers
[08:55] <chemist109> Anyone know how to activate audio preview in konqueror?  I can't remember.  (Yes, sounds is checked in view>preview)
[08:55] <nu> headphones for headphones
[08:56] <nu> and looks like they're separate
[08:56] <mjunx> chemist109, I remember that audio previews worked for me when I did that, but after a little while, it stopped working and now I don't know what to do either
[08:56] <Layer8> mjunx via kde...when i plugg the disk in, the dialog asks me what to do like it does when you plug in an usb stick
[08:56] <mjunx> nu, try other metres
[08:56] <mjunx> Layer8, and what happens then?
[08:56] <Layer8> mjunx but when i choose open in new window nothing happens...
[08:57] <chemist109> It works for me under edgy, but I can't get it working under Feisty.
[08:57] <mjunx> check mount
[08:57] <nu> i tried but no luck... anyway if i get this sorted i'll give you guys feedback if you're interested
[08:57] <nu> thanks for the help mjunx
[08:57] <mjunx> nu, did you try front speaker?
[08:57] <Layer8> mjunx mount ->  disk is not mounted
[08:57] <mats> hi where can i see my cp , like in windows with ctr + alt + delete
[08:57] <nu> yes, no luck
[08:57] <mjunx> Layer8, I don't know then, sorry
[08:57] <nu> i'll try again when i get some more time
[08:57] <nu> i'll bbl, thanks
[08:57] <mjunx> mats, ctrl+esc
[08:57] <mats> ty
[08:57] <Layer8> using "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -t ntfs-3g" it works
[08:57] <mjunx> you can also run ksystemguard
[08:57] <mats> ok ty
[08:58] <mjunx> Layer8, it might be due to you using ntfs-3g or it being ntfs in general
[08:58] <Layer8> maybe
[08:58] <mjunx> oh, and is your nick a pun on the network layers standard?
[08:58] <mjunx> the OSI model that is
[08:59] <mray> hi there! how can i find out what version of kubuntu i'm using?
[09:00] <mjunx> mray, k menu -> help
[09:00] <wirr> mray: lsb_release -a
[09:00] <mjunx> anyways, I gotta go, talk to you guys later
[09:02] <kema> Hi! why amarok doesen't play smb shared mp3 files, but local mp3 working fine
[09:02] <kema> kubuntu 7.04
[09:03] <kema> amarok 1.4.5
[09:03] <reydelsillon> argh. i just F up. im getting a error 17 from grub. How do i re/install grub as it should be? i have 1 sata disk with 1 ntfs partition and 1 ext3 partition with ubuntu.
[09:04] <reydelsillon> guys_
[09:04] <reydelsillon> ?
[09:05] <reydelsillon> ladies? =)
[09:05] <Yorokobi> reydelsillon, you'll probably have to work some magic with the rescue option on the install CD
[09:06] <reydelsillon> no way i can do it wile on live cd_
[09:06] <reydelsillon> ?
[09:07] <Arwen> when I play DVDs they look bad... anyone know what the problem might be?
[09:07] <Yorokobi> reydelsillon, no, you need to boot to single user mode via the kernel's rescue option
[09:07] <Black_Cat> no, afaik. install cd only.
[09:07] <reydelsillon> im gonna try that, thanks
[09:07] <Black_Cat> Arwen, did you get dvd playback drivers from repository?
[09:08] <Arwen> it's not a codec problem....
[09:08] <Whiz2> Arwen: possibly corrupted, or missing playback drivers
[09:08] <Whiz2> Arwen: could also be display drivers
[09:08] <Arwen> it's just that whenever anything moves, it looks like there's jagged lines on the edges
[09:08] <Arwen> like when you play games without AA
[09:08] <Layer8> can someone tell me, what process is launched when i plug in a usb hdd?
[09:08] <Whiz2> Arwen: check for updated display drivers for your card
[09:09] <Arwen> IT'S NOT THE DRIVERS
[09:09] <Arwen> god...
[09:09] <jhutchins> Arwen: What are your CPU and RAM?
[09:09] <osberto> hi
[09:09] <Arwen> jhutchins, RAM at 20% usage and CPU at 0%
[09:09] <Yorokobi> Layer8, hald is part of that mess. I'm not sure of the whole process, though
[09:09] <kema> amarok says "error loading media, no suitable input plugin" when I tried play mp3's over network. Can someone help me?
[09:09] <osberto> how do install themes in Kubuntu?
[09:09] <jhutchins> Arwen: I mean what is the CPU Frequency and how much ram do you have?
[09:09] <Arwen> 3GHz, 512MB RAM
[09:09] <mray> is it possible to install a new Kubuntu over an old Kubuntu?
[09:09] <Whiz2> Arwen you said it wasn't the codecs... codecs & display drivers are different items all together. was only trying to help
[09:10] <osberto> install themes in kubuntu?
[09:10] <jhutchins> Arwen: Can you play the same DVD somewhere else that it looks good?
[09:10] <Arwen> jhutchins, dunno, don't have anything to try it on - but then again, I probably wouldn't notice on a normal TV
[09:10] <dac> greetings
[09:11] <jhutchins> Arwen: That might be.  It sounds like an encoding problem, like maybe it was over-compressed.
[09:11] <Arwen> jhutchins, hmm, possibly
[09:11] <jhutchins> Arwen: Basically compression trades off resolution and motion, so if you over compress you see messy playback when there's motion.  It could also be the decoding process, but you seem to have enough power for that.
[09:12] <Arwen> jhutchins, I know about compression artifacts... maybe I'm used to MPEG-4 style ones though
[09:12] <Arwen> are MPEG-2 artifacts different?
[09:12] <jhutchins> Arwen: They can be, and transcoding can introduce artifacts.
[09:13] <tatters> Screensaver is blank in KDE yet ok in GDE  (Feisty) how to fix??
[09:13] <willo_> salut
[09:14] <aaroncampbell> I have a cheap kids digital camera of my sons.  When I plug it into XP (usb), it functions like a flash drive.  I plug it into Kubuntu Feisty, and nothing happens.  How can I mount it?
[09:14] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, check the hardware compatibility list to see if its even supported by Linux.
[09:15] <jhutchins> Yorokobi: If it appears to the USB system as a USB storage device, it shouldn't matter.
[09:15] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: where is that?  It seems like most (all?) flash drives work fine...and that's all this is
[09:15] <chemist109> Arwen: That video is interlaced.  It was from TV program, right? Those lines are called combing artifacts.  You should turn on post-processing plugin to fix
[09:15] <Yorokobi> not necessarily
[09:15] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: It's possible it's looking for a special driver for the camera, several people have reported similar problems.
[09:15] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, which kernel are you using?
[09:15] <jhutchins> Yorokobi: USB Mass Storage Devices use a universal driver.
[09:16] <dac> I've an old Packard Bell box with a 10GB HD, I just bought a 160 GB SATA ll/300 internal . Can I install it?
[09:16] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: whatever and updated version of Kubuntu Feisty has
[09:16] <Arwen> chemist109, such as? turning on post-processing seems to just make the video look even worse
[09:16] <Yorokobi> which camera?
[09:16] <cpk1> dac: sure if you have a sata port
[09:16] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: it's like a fisher-price kids camera
[09:16] <dac> what is a sata port
[09:16] <Yorokobi> model number?
[09:16] <chemist109> Arwen: You're using Kaffeine?
[09:16] <tatters> Da cI wooullld check obo BIOS supports drive that size also
[09:16] <Arwen> chemist109, VLC
[09:16] <jhutchins> dak: You probably need a PCI SATA adapter card.
[09:17] <aaroncampbell> My nice camera works fine (Canon Rebel XTi)
[09:17] <Arwen> http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/71/vlcsnap13588938jq3.png - jhutchins, chemist109, this is what I'm talking about
[09:17] <dac> ok
[09:17] <Arwen> hey wait, wtf, it doesn't look cruddy when I screenshot it...
[09:17] <kristyon> anyone know why cups says this? Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.
[09:17] <tatters> Some old mobo/BIOS have 80gb limit
[09:17] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: the only numbers on it are: J8209/J8210/J8211
[09:18] <dac> ok
[09:18] <kristyon> I cant setup my printer
[09:18] <jhutchins> Arwen: Try mplayer.  Uses different decode process.  Might also try xine.
[09:18] <Arwen> jhutchins, will do
[09:18] <kristyon> anyone had trouble with cups?
[09:19] <jhutchins> kristyon: Sounds like it's not running.  Can you access it at http://localhost:631?
[09:19] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: http://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=2621&e=mainproduct&pid=37019&acccat=cameracc&mainid=37019
[09:19] <kristyon> yes
[09:19] <kalorin`> kristyon: well they chafe a bit and never have seemed comfortable
[09:19] <Arwen> jhutchins, mplayer hangs when I try to do that...
[09:19] <kristyon> but I cannot add a local printer
[09:19] <Arwen> or wait, it's working now
[09:19] <chemist109> Arwen: If there is a de-interlace option, that is what you want.
[09:19] <jhutchins> kristyon: 	http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd
[09:19] <Arwen> chemist109, ok
[09:19] <Arwen> jhutchins, thanks, it looks way less cruddy now
[09:20] <kema> does anyone knows something about that amarok problem?
[09:20] <Arwen> kema, the amarok problem?
[09:21] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, I'm can't find anything about that camera and the 2.6.x kernel ... does your syslog have anything about it when you plug it in?
[09:21] <kema> amarok says "error loading media, no suitable input plugin" when I tried play mp3's over network.
[09:21] <jhutchins> !mp3 | kema
[09:21] <ubotu> kema: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <kristyon> jhutchins: OK, thanks for that but I dont know what the path for my usb printer is. I was trying to use the system settings/printer/add printer dialogue but the remote printer option is greyed out
[09:21] <kristyon> and I get this error:
[09:21] <kristyon> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason.
[09:22] <kema> when files located local amarok plays them fine
[09:22] <Arwen> jhutchins, huh, I'm a dumbass, I figured out my issue was that VLC was falling back to x11...
[09:22] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: new guy here...how can I check the syslog?
[09:22] <jhutchins> kristyon: Not sure, like that blog says I was never able to add a printer with the system settings, and since it worked doing it directly in cups I didn't go back.
[09:23] <Yorokobi> ksystemlog or 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' then plug it in
[09:23] <kristyon> any idea what my printer path would be or how I discover it?
[09:23] <lee_> why does amarok go grey and inactive the first time i start it after doing a fresh install of kubuntu?
[09:24] <kristyon> its a local usb, lexmark
[09:27] <mray> Ark just refuses to extract a *.tgz.tar file! why?!
[09:27] <kristyon> now it appears as an option in cups but still no authorisation
[09:27] <wolferine> can I get a hand setting up my scanner, its an Epson CX5000 (i had it working on the weekend, but then I did a format/install feisty) ?
[09:27] <kristyon> it should be tar.gz
[09:27] <FreeWolF> hello
[09:28] <FreeWolF> excuse me, I need a fast mirror
[09:28] <FreeWolF> for download kubuntu 7.04
[09:28] <FreeWolF> I've tried filemirrors
[09:28] <lee_> use bittorrent.
[09:28] <FreeWolF> yes
[09:28] <mray> i renamed it to *.tar.gz - same error "tar: galcon/pygame.mixer_music.so: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted"
[09:28] <FreeWolF> but with bittorrent the speed is 24k maximum
[09:29] <lee_> no it isn't.
[09:29] <lee_> get Azureus.
[09:29] <FreeWolF> ok
[09:29] <kristyon> its corrupt then
[09:29] <lee_> wait.
[09:29] <lee_> uTorrent
[09:29] <lee_> is the best.
[09:29] <FreeWolF> ok
[09:29] <lee_> very small. very fast.
[09:29] <mirek> hej
[09:29] <FreeWolF> thank you very much
[09:29] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: It seems to add it successfully as /dev/sdc (sdc1) but does nothing with it.  I made a test directory at ~/test and was then able to mount it there fine, as well as browse it.  Is there a way to make it auto-mount like CDRoms?
[09:29] <lee_> azureus runs on Java so it's bloated.
[09:30] <chemist109>  Anyone know how to activate audio preview in konqueror?  I can't remember.  (Yes, sounds is checked in view>preview)
[09:30] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, an fstab entry may take care of that, so long it is always assigned /dev/sdc1
[09:31] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: The logs http://paste-bin.com/11473
[09:31] <Arwen> lee_, you accuse Azureus of being bloated but you recommend Firefox???
[09:31] <wolferine> can I get a hand setting up my scanner, its an Epson CX5000 (i had it working on the weekend, but then I did a format/install feisty) I can see it in lsusb, i can scan using  scanimage -d epson (only as sudo)?
[09:31] <kristyon> sounds like a permissions problem
[09:32] <foxbeingz> Anyone who uses Thundebird -  How do I rename/edit a tag that I just created? Say I want to change the color or rename a tag, how do I do it ?
[09:32] <Dumahen> how can i access ntfs hdd ?
[09:32] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: get ntf3g
[09:32] <Dumahen> an application ?
[09:32] <Dumahen> or a library ?
[09:33] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: you have to mount it first and the you can browse it, to delete and edit stuff, you need ntf3g
[09:33] <smile> hi everybody
[09:33] <chemist109> wolferine:  There is a scanner group.  Are you a member?
[09:33] <smile> how to play X nethack ??
[09:33] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: go to package manager and look for ntfs3g
[09:33] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[09:33] <Dumahen> ok thnx
[09:33] <wolferine> chemist109, I beleive this is a different type of "scanner"
[09:33] <foxbeingz> np
[09:34] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, 'sudo echo "/dev/sdc1        /media/kidscamera  auto user,noauto     0       0" >> /etc/fstab'
[09:34] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, you'll need to mkdir /media/kidscamera (or whatever you want to call it)
[09:34] <bandb|kde> how do I figure out what driver X is using?
[09:34] <Dumahen> foxbeingz: i search but found nothing
[09:35] <lee_> How do I get my onboard sound to work?
[09:35] <lee_> i have an ASUS A8N-SLi
[09:35] <lee_> pretty much the same onboard sound most people have
[09:35] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: ntfs-3g is the exact name
[09:36] <Dumahen> foxbeingz: :( again nothing found :(
[09:36] <foxbeingz> Dumahen: what version of kubuntu do u have?
[09:37] <kema> apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-3g-config
[09:38] <sdlnxgk> anyone find out why kicker crashes when having more then 1 desktop viewer???
[09:39] <blekos> how can i delete a dir that is not empty?
[09:39] <blekos> from the command line
[09:39] <nu> rm -rf
[09:40] <blekos> thnx
[09:40] <nu> np
[09:40] <wolferine> can I get a hand setting up my scanner, its an Epson CX5000 (i had it working on the weekend, but then I did a format/install feisty) I can see it in lsusb, i can scan using  scanimage -d epson (only as sudo)?
[09:41] <Filthpig> hi
[09:42] <chemist109> wolferine: As someone else said, it sounds like a permissions issue.  What are the permissions for the /dev entry for the scanner?
[09:42] <WillLuongo> is there any way to watch commercial DVDs in Kaffiene?
[09:43] <wolferine> well, setting itup in /dev didnt work all that well
[09:43] <wolferine> as I had to do it manually, it wasnt in there
[09:43] <Filthpig> how on earth can I get the System Tray to sit next to the clock?
[09:44] <kristyon> got the printer working, thanks jchutchins
[09:44] <nu> by dragging it with your left mouse button ?
[09:44] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: Is there no way to see USB drives with they are put in, rather than having to specify a device and a mount point?  If I plug in 2 USB devices, they are sdc and sdd
[09:44] <Filthpig> nu: nope :s
[09:44] <nu> drag the edge between the tray and the "desktops" bar
[09:44] <wolferine> what is the group saned?
[09:44] <nu> the one where the small arrow appears
[09:45] <nu> as you hover over it
[09:45] <Filthpig> there's no edge there
[09:45] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, the HAL daemon (hald) takes care of that ... usually.
[09:45] <nu> you cant see it unless you slowly pass your mouse over it
[09:45] <chemist109> wolferine: Sane is a scanning engine.
[09:45] <nu> as if you were to hover from the tray to the desktop numbers
[09:45] <wolferine> thats not the same is it chemist109 ?
[09:45] <nu> *slowly* ;)
[09:45] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: ok...so I need to figure out how to check the status of that
[09:45] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, me too :)
[09:45] <chemist109> wolferine: saned is the sane daemon, I believe
[09:46] <chemist109> saned is the SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) daemon that allows remote clients to access image acquisition devices available on the local host.
[09:46] <Filthpig> nu: It does not appear :s
[09:47] <wolferine> chemist109, ah makes sense, so if I add my user to that group, do I need to restart for changes to take effect?
[09:47] <nu> do you get one when hovering from the desktops to the taskbar ?
[09:47] <chemist109> wolferine: You should be able to just log out and back in.
[09:47] <nu> that is, even more to the left
[09:47] <WillLuongo> Hello can anyone tell me if it is possible to watch commercial DVDs in Kaffiene?
[09:47] <wolferine> chemist109, but my question is, do i have to
[09:47] <aaroncampbell> Anyone here now how to set up hal to properly detect and show/mount usb devices?
[09:47] <Filthpig> nu: nope
[09:47] <Filthpig> nada
[09:47] <creadorcreativo> WillLuongo: yes, you need install libdvdcss
[09:48] <chemist109> wolferine: You will be joined to the new group when you log out and then back in.  You don't have to restart.
[09:48] <wolferine> ok, maybe ill try that
[09:48] <nu> perhaps post a screenshot somewhere Filthpig, to let people figure out what went awry with your desktop ;)
[09:48] <wolferine> anything else it could be?
[09:48] <Filthpig> :] 
[09:48] <wolferine> other than me not being in the group saned?
[09:49] <TheUser> hi, is there a command to get the current refresh rate ?
[09:49] <chemist109> wolferine: If you can scan using sudo but not your regular user then it almost has to be a permissions problem.
[09:50] <wolferine> but I cannot do sudo xsane to scan
[09:50] <wolferine> as it doesnt find the device
[09:50] <WillLuongo> creadorcreativo: I get the following message...
[09:50] <WillLuongo> libdvdcss
[09:50] <WillLuongo> oops
[09:50] <wolferine>  I can only use scanimage -d epson
[09:50] <WillLuongo> ;p;
[09:50] <chemist109> wolferine: There must be an additional problem, then.
[09:50] <WillLuongo> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:50] <WillLuongo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:50] <WillLuongo> is only available from another source
[09:50] <WillLuongo> E: Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate
[09:50] <Filthpig> hm
[09:51] <Filthpig> maybe I can reverse engineer the howto for the macosx look :] 
[09:51] <chemist109> WillLuongo: The package is libdvdcss2
[09:51] <Yorokobi> wolferine, did you use sudo mknod to create the device node in /dev ?
[09:51] <WillLuongo> chemist109: thank you
[09:52] <wolferine> Yorokobi, well,  I had to manually add the device to /dev
[09:52] <WillLuongo> chemist109: but I get the same message with 2 as well
[09:52] <wolferine> not sure I did mknod to do so
[09:52] <blekos> any idea how i can upgrade my java version from 1.4 to 1.5?
[09:52] <chemist109> WillLuongo: did you add the additional repositories?
[09:52] <Yorokobi> wolferine, "files" in /dev should be created with mknod, not mkdir :)
[09:53] <wolferine> so if I ls, it will read it as a what?
[09:53] <chemist109> WillLuongo: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[09:54] <chalcedony> does anyone have ideas on how to get AIM to work on Gaim?
[09:54] <wolferine> oh wait, its gone
[09:54] <Yorokobi> wolferine, the permissions first flag in ls -l /dev/<whatever> should be a 'c', if its a 'd' then you'll run into problems.
[09:54] <chalcedony> my son just tried everything he knows.. it didn't work
[09:54] <Yorokobi> wolferine, but, you'll also want to add yourself to the saned group (if one exists)
[09:55] <wolferine> Yorokobi, i just did that, but I need to log for it take effect
[09:55] <blekos> any idea how i can upgrade my java version from 1.4 to 1.5?
[09:56] <WillLuongo> chemist109: Thank you, that worked!
[09:57] <wolferine> Yorokobi, are you familiar with setting up scanners?
[09:57] <Yorokobi> nope
[09:57] <asmith42b> chalcedony: In what way does it not work?
[09:57] <Yorokobi> not scanners specifically, that is
[09:58] <wolferine> does anyone even use scanners?
[09:58] <wolferine> lol
[09:59] <wolferine> seems to be dead silence over the past 3-4 days when asking for help with it
[09:59] <acetoxy> Artists probably.
[09:59] <acetoxy> I didn't read up :)
[09:59] <asmith42b> I use scanners, but I haven't tried hooking any up to Ubuntu yet.
[09:59] <wolferine> Yorokobi, so I would need to mknod in /dev, for the scanner
[10:00] <wolferine> and I added my lsusb info in my epson.conf (which is the reason scanimage -d epson works)
[10:00] <asmith42b> I probably will hook one up soon for fun.
[10:00] <Yorokobi> wolferine, probably as a scanner is a device
[10:01] <wolferine> a USB device
[10:01] <wolferine> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 04b8:082b Seiko Epson Corp.
[10:01] <wolferine> so do I need to refernce where the device is, so it works properly?
[10:02] <BluesKaj> asmith42b, I've used Kooka with success on my scanner but it's kinda poor quality compared to the copies one gets with windows .. i hate to admit
[10:02] <wolferine> (im still not sure why it doesnt work outta-tha-box)
[10:04] <asmith42b> BluesKaj: Perhaps with more interest, support will get better.
[10:05] <wolferine> BluesKaj, and you set it up how?
[10:05] <asmith42b> er, quality
[10:05] <chemist109> wolferine: Did you follow this? http://www.sane-project.org/README.linux
[10:06] <sparrw> [how]  can i completely disable AutoSelect in vncviewer?
[10:06] <Hc> hello, i installed phpmyadmin, but i dont know how to login on it, it asks for username/pw and i have no idea what it is.. can some1 tell me where to see the usrname and pass? or if it is the same as in login to kubuntu?
[10:06] <sparrw> Hc: thats your mysql username and pw.  if you havent set up mysql then you dont have one yet
[10:06] <wolferine> chemist109, yes, kind of, I read it, but didnt find it helped
[10:06] <Hc> sparr how should i set it up?
[10:07] <ian__> wireless LAN not working on feisty :(
[10:07] <BluesKaj> wolferine,  just a normal setup ... got the HP drivers for it and the thing worked
[10:07] <Hc> i got installed mysql files, but how to manage it?
[10:07] <ian__> i can see my wireless router, but not connect
[10:07] <wolferine> BluesKaj, did you use the drivers from the HP site?
[10:07] <BluesKaj> yeah
[10:08] <wolferine> BluesKaj, so you complied from source?
[10:08] <wolferine> and HP supplies drivers for linux?
[10:08] <Hc> how to configure mysql?
[10:09] <ian__> www.mysql.com
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> good morning.  have things calmed down some since the release?
[10:09] <ian__> nah my wireless lan is b0rked
[10:09] <ian__> got nvidia drivers working now though! <3 envy
[10:09] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, same problems, more people involved
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i kinda meant in general, but hey, what the heck
[10:10] <Yorokobi> heh
[10:10] <wolferine> chemist109, this was easy when I set it up in Edgy
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: again, the big problem with increasing popularity
[10:10] <Hc> !mysql | Hc
[10:10] <Hc> hmm
[10:11] <wolferine> when I first started it in Edgy, xsane discovered my USB webcam first
[10:11] <ian__> any idea how i can get connected to my wireless router? i can see it, but not connect
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ian__: question, is it WEP?
[10:12] <ian__> nope theres no security
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well that doesn't sound very safe
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not sure why it wouldn't connect to a wide open AP
[10:12] <ian__> atm I'm not worried
[10:12] <toferrado> How do I know what's my pci wireless card chipset?
[10:13] <ian__> toferrado: lspci
[10:13] <ian__> i think
[10:13] <toferrado> ian__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17456/
[10:13] <asmith42b> toferrado: Look at it?
[10:13] <asmith42b> :P
[10:13] <toferrado> ian__, isn't working...
[10:14] <ian__> o_O
[10:14] <toferrado> asmith42b, its inside my laptop :/
[10:15] <Yorokobi> toferrado, have you tried lspci yet ?
[10:15] <Yorokobi> nm
[10:15] <msoeken> known problem? I cannot surf with konqueror when the new network manager is running, but ping works
[10:16] <toferrado> Yorokobi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17456/
[10:16] <toferrado> Yorokobi, isn't working...
[10:16] <Yorokobi> yeah, I only see the ethernet NIC in that paste
[10:17] <kRush> is the amd64 build still a showstopper for desktop usage?
[10:17] <kRush> like flash not working
[10:18] <ian__> yeah
[10:18] <ian__> :(
[10:18] <ian__> and java too
[10:18] <ian__> or at least for me anyway :P
[10:18] <chijin> flash works just fine, if you use a 32bit browser, which is quite simple thing to do
[10:18] <aro> Is there a calculator in KDE?
[10:18] <aro> Just a basic 4 function one
[10:18] <Yorokobi> aro, kcalc
[10:19] <chemist109> aro: sudo apt-get install kcalc
[10:19] <aro> Thanks
[10:19] <ian__> SpeedCrunch is installed by default is it not?
[10:19] <aro> Oh yea didn't even see that
[10:20] <kRush> bummer
[10:20] <yelkcos> hola
[10:20] <yelkcos> tengo un problema con el teclado al actualizar a kubuntu 7.04
[10:21] <asmith42b> !es
[10:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:21] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a way to make it where akregator doesn't prompt you when you try to delete something?
[10:22] <wolferine> anyone able to help setup my scanner?
[10:22] <stexe> we can help me?
[10:22] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly
[10:22] <janz> sexy time
[10:23] <janz> bow chicka bow wow
[10:23] <janz> bam!
[10:23] <janz> thats what im talking about
[10:23] <stexe> I've installed today kubuntu 6.10... I can't install any appl
[10:23] <janz> same here man
[10:24] <markelhas> Hi,
[10:24] <markelhas> When a try to boot my ubuntu 7.04 cd it reebots my machine, i've to put nolapic on boot options to boot from the cd.
[10:24] <markelhas> After that the ubuntu is up and runnig, i can config my wifi, surf the web, everthing is working just fine. After the installation process the ubuntu takes a lottttttttttt of time to boot and some times does not boot at all. When it boot the os is very very very slow. With the live cd it's faster then the install one!
[10:24] <markelhas> I've this problem in version 6.10 and the problem was that i used partition magic to create the partitions of the ubuntu. when i used the install interface it work. But in 7.04 nothing seems to work.
[10:24] <markelhas> Need some tips one this plz.
[10:24] <janz> wow..a lot to read
[10:24] <rr72> not really
[10:24] <Yorokobi> markelhas, are you using the noacpi option still ?
[10:25] <janz> hey...dont give me lip
[10:25] <markelhas> Yorokobi: yap
[10:25] <janz> im 16 and i dont want to waste my time readinh
[10:25] <janz> reading*
[10:25] <Yorokobi> markelhas, have you tried it without?
[10:25] <janz> lol
[10:25] <BluesKaj> maybe you should , janz
[10:25] <markelhas> Yorokobi: doesn't boot
[10:25] <janz> maybe i should
[10:26] <janz> i might just go get naked and go do that
[10:26] <markelhas> Yorokobi: i've installed several times and nothing
[10:26] <Yorokobi> oy ... you're not using a DVD+/-RW w/lightscibe are you, markelhas ?
[10:27] <markelhas> Yorokobi: now i have 6.10 and it's working but if i update or install de 7.04 puff problems
[10:27] <wolferine> BluesKaj, you still didnt get a chance to respond to my previous question
[10:27] <wolferine> did you compile the drivers from HP from source?
[10:27] <markelhas> Yorokobi: don't now what is that :(
[10:27] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it
[10:28] <markelhas> Yorokobi: i'm trying to install on a laptop Asus M3N, that also have a windows partition
[10:28] <WillLuongo> How can I run an SSH client in Consol?
[10:28] <WillLuongo> Console even?
[10:28] <Yorokobi> WillLuongo, ssh targethoste
[10:28] <Yorokobi> -e
[10:28] <Maneit> ssh user@host -p port
[10:28] <WillLuongo> Yorokobi: thanks
[10:29] <WillLuongo> Maneit: Thank you as well
[10:29] <BluesKaj> oh sorry wolferine ,I had an appfreeze up and had to reboot ... feisty just recognized the scanner and it's listed when I launch kooka , so they've upgraded the app
[10:29] <Maneit> you usually don't need the port option though :)
[10:29] <Maneit> np, WillLuongo
[10:29] <markelhas> Yorokobi: how can i try to solve this problem?
[10:30] <wolferine> BluesKaj, so did you get the drivers from HP or not?
[10:30] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it
[10:30] <Yorokobi> markelhas, is it the M3000N ?
[10:30] <markelhas> Yorokobi: yes it is
[10:30] <b0nn> Hi all, I have a problem that Im not sure how to fix.  If I hold down a shift key, or ctrl key, then it 'locks' on (I have to click it again to unlock it) does anyone have any idea how to prevent this behaviour?
[10:31] <markelhas> Yorokobi: is 7.04 too much for my machine!?
[10:31] <Yorokobi> markelhas, dunno ... the ubuntu wiki only has tests for breezy and warty :/ I don't know if there has been any tests on that machine for feisty/the 2.6 kernel
[10:32] <BluesKaj> nope wolferine , didn't need to this upgrade ..did a total clean reinstall, ...no need for other drivers
[10:32] <Yorokobi> s/hoary/warty/ ^^^
[10:32] <markelhas> Yorokobi: so maybe i shouldn't updated to 7.04?
[10:32] <wolferine> BluesKaj, before you had mentioned you got the drivers from HP
[10:32] <rr72> b0nn~ its sticky keys
[10:32] <wolferine> which is a bit confusing
[10:32] <Yorokobi> markelhas, if it works in 6.10 but not 7.04, stick with 6.10
[10:33] <b0nn> rr72: ah cool
[10:33] <wolferine> so you using 7.04 BluesKaj ?
[10:33] <rr72> b0nn~ i don't know how to turn it off tho sorry
[10:33] <b0nn> rr72: thats good, now I have an idea for google
[10:34] <chemist109> b0nn: system settings>accessibility>modifier keys
[10:34] <markelhas> Yorokobi: ya, think so. thnks
[10:35] <b0nn> ok
[10:35] <b0nn> yes!
[10:36] <b0nn> thanks guys, thats a huge relief
[10:36] <BluesKaj> yes , wolferine
[10:36] <wolferine> BluesKaj, and you had to do what, just open xsane and it recognized the device?
[10:36] <Hc> pfff, i rly dont understand that mysql
[10:37] <wolferine> ok kooka, in your case
[10:37] <BluesKaj> kooka
[10:37] <BluesKaj> yup
[10:37] <wolferine> hmm, my kooka cannot find any devices
[10:37] <wolferine> could you look in yours, and see where your device is located?
[10:37] <wolferine> in /dev I imagine
[10:37] <wolferine> but /dev/what?
[10:38] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it
[10:38] <MinceR> how do i set up [k] ubuntu so that the system clock is considered to be UTC?
[10:39] <Whiz2> hmm.. i'm having an issue removing lighttpd. it refuses to terminate
[10:39] <Whiz2> any ideas?
[10:39] <wolferine> Whiz2, sudo ps -A
[10:39] <wolferine> then kill the ps
[10:40] <wolferine> MinceR, what is UTC?
[10:40] <MajorApus> how do I play mpegs?
[10:40] <wolferine> you can sync with internet servers, not sure if thats what you want
[10:40] <MinceR> wolferine: Universal Coordinated Time
[10:40] <Whiz2> wolferine: littpd isn't listed there
[10:40] <Whiz2> lighttpd*
[10:41] <rr72> !zulu
[10:41] <wolferine> Whiz2, its a daemon?
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zulu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <MinceR> i want it to add the local timezone difference to the system clock at boot time
[10:41] <Yorokobi> MinceR, you'll need to change your time zone, 'sudo tzconfig'
[10:41] <Whiz2> wolferine: it's what i was using for a web server before i installed apache2
[10:41] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it
[10:41] <Yorokobi> rr72, google it
[10:41] <MinceR> my current time zone is set correctly
[10:41] <rr72> Yorokobi~ u don't think i have?
[10:41] <facugaich> Wmv playback is broken right?
[10:42] <wolferine> Whiz2, sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop ?
[10:42] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it. i have read plenty of documentation on it
[10:42] <dettoaltrimenti> what's the keyboard shortcut for refresh in most browsers?
[10:42] <wolferine> rr72, no need to repeat once a minute
[10:42] <chemist109> Yorokobi: He doesn't need to change his timezone.  My system clock uses UTC, but my tz is America/Chicago
[10:42] <wolferine> dettoaltrimenti, F5
[10:42] <MajorApus> how do I get mpeg support??
[10:42] <rr72> wolferine~ il switch to once every 5 minutes
[10:42] <Yorokobi> MinceR, chemist109 that's set in the BIOS
[10:42] <wolferine> MajorApus, google ubuntu guide
[10:42] <Whiz2> wolferine: failed
[10:43] <chemist109> Yorokobi: Nope, it isn't.
[10:43] <Whiz2> hang on i'll try from the process manager...
[10:43] <dettoaltrimenti> does anyone here know anything about net vibes? how often do they update the feeds?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[10:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:43] <wolferine> Whiz2, sudo /etc/init.d/li (then tab) to see if the daemon is listed
[10:43] <chemist109> Usually you choose the setting when you install Kubuntu.  I don't know how you change it.
[10:43] <Whiz2> wolferine: it's there. it just doesn't stop
[10:44] <wolferine> Whiz2, log your system
[10:45] <wolferine> it should either kill it or restart it
[10:45] <wolferine> when you come back, use that line to kill, if its still running
[10:45] <Pollywog> does anyone know if the nvidia problems have been fixed in Feisty?
[10:45] <wolferine> Pollywog, problems, like what?
[10:45] <chemist109> MinceR: Edit /etc/default/rcS  Set UTC=yes.
[10:45] <dettoaltrimenti> Whiz2, what process are you trying to stop?
[10:45] <Filthpig> chees
[10:45] <Whiz2> wolferine: using the tab idea it shows up as a linux-restricted-mules-common packages
[10:45] <Whiz2> lighttpd
[10:45] <wolferine> Pollywog, u may want to direct your questions into #ubuntu-effects too
[10:46] <Yorokobi> chemist109, I just pm'd that to MinceR  :)
[10:46] <wolferine> Whiz2, ok....
[10:46] <Pollywog> when I installed nvidia the day Feisty was released, the nvidia drivers would not work
[10:46] <wolferine> so?
[10:46] <MajorApus> how do I get mpeg (vido) support the guide here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats" DOESN"T WORK
[10:46] <dettoaltrimenti> Whiz2, 'ps -e | grep light' then 'sudo kill <process number>' have you tried that?
[10:46] <Pollywog> so I am running nv driver
[10:46] <wolferine> Pollywog, what do you mean "didnt work"
[10:46] <chemist109> Yorokobi: Good Job! :)
[10:46] <Pollywog> I could not get KDE to start
[10:46] <wolferine> Pollywog, use the ubuntu guide to update to the latest nvidia driver
[10:47] <Pollywog> k
[10:47] <chemist109> exit
[10:47] <chemist109> oops
[10:47] <Whiz2> dettoaltrimenti: it doesn't show up in ps
[10:47] <wolferine> Pollywog, ask questions in #ubuntu-effects instead
[10:47] <Whiz2> at all
[10:47] <chemist109> let's try that in Konsole :)
[10:47] <Pollywog> k
[10:47] <dettoaltrimenti> if it's not showing up there, it's not running
[10:47] <Yorokobi> Whiz2, how do you know that its running?
[10:47] <rr72> hey, my wifi card isnt working in feisty, it worked in edgy perfectly, i have a Hawking hwp54g which has the rt2500 chipset, i have even tried to compile my own driver for it. i have read plenty of documentation on it
[10:48] <Whiz2> Yorokobi: because i had it set to auto start when i first installed it. Now it won't stop, or uninstall
[10:48] <Whiz2> debfoster asked me if i wanted to remove it a few mins ago, and when it tried to remove it, it refused to stop (it tried to stop, and purge it and failed on all counts)
[10:48] <dettoaltrimenti> if it doesn't show up in ps, it isn't running- does 'sudo apt-get remove lighttdp' give you an error message Whiz2?
[10:49] <ian__> any ideas why my wireless lan isnt showing from the KNetworkManager tray icon, but it does show when i go to manually configure?
[10:49] <ian__> oh and
[10:49] <Whiz2> dettoaltrimenti: let me check...
[10:49] <MinceR> thx
[10:49] <ian__> under wcid it wont connect :[
[10:49] <ian__> so back to KNetworkManager
[10:49] <Yorokobi> MinceR, is that what you were looking for?
[10:50] <MinceR> yes
[10:52] <Whiz2> where can I paste the error?
[10:52] <Whiz2> so you can see?
[10:52] <olimpico>  I'm getting log_daemon_msg: not found everywhere, On the console, if I remove a package, on the init , everywhere. PLEASE HELP, many things don't work anymore
[10:52] <Yorokobi> olimpico, what do you mean by "if I remove a package, on the init"?
[10:52] <creadorcreativo> Whiz2: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:53] <bilbo-b> is it normal that the kubuntu install mount my sata disc as scsi sda?
[10:53] <Yorokobi> bilbo-b, yes
[10:53] <NetersLandreau> i have a problem.. did the upgrade to 7 and now my computer won't boot even in single user mode.. hangs waiting usb device.. any clues?
[10:53] <wolferine> what is usblp0 in /dev exactly?
[10:53] <olimpico> Yorokobi: Everywhere, if I apt-get remove, xxxx I get this message
[10:54] <NetersLandreau> i think it may be missing fonts, or something
[10:54] <bilbo-b> well, im having a problem instaling grub during installation. i thought that was the sata disc, but now im lost
[10:54] <olimpico> Yorokobi:  If I reboot, in the init it comes several times
[10:54] <chemist109> NetersLandreau: Unplug the USB device.  I have to do this with an external hard drive.
[10:54] <wolferine> !pastebin Whiz2
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin whiz2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <wolferine> !pastebin | Whiz2
[10:54] <ubotu> Whiz2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:54] <NetersLandreau> thanks chemist109.. i will try that
[10:54] <bilbo-b> it said its a fatal erro, but didnt get more details
[10:54] <olimpico> Yorokobi: Also if I try to /etc/init.d/networking restart, I get log_action_begin_msg: not found
[10:55] <Whiz2> here is the URL for the pasted error received by apt-get remove lighttpd... http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/17466/
[10:55] <olimpico> Yorokobi: It's like if in the last upgrade, some package that recognized this logs was removed
[10:56] <bilbo-b> have somebody got an error during the grub install in the livecd installation on a fujitsu notebook?
[10:56] <Whiz2> I've added pastebin to my favorites
[10:56] <Whiz2> :-D
[10:57] <chemist109> Whiz2: Try this:  sudo apt-get install lighttpd     Then, sudo apt-get remove lighttpd
[10:57] <wolferine> Whiz2, you might want to use aptitude from now on, not apt-get
[10:57] <Whiz2> trying...
[10:57] <wolferine> as it will remember/remove the dependencies as well
[10:58] <Whiz2> lighttpd is already the newest version
[10:58] <nutshell42> how do I print as user?
[10:58] <nutshell42> the printer is configured, it shows up in the cups configuration, it shows up in kde's config dialog when I'm admin, but it's not there as user
[10:58] <Whiz2> wolferine: i tried removing it using debfoster & it still failed
[10:58] <deviance> Whiz2 whats the error?
[10:58] <Whiz2> so it's not a dependency issue
[10:58] <chemist109> Whiz2: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall lighttpd  Then remove it.
[10:59] <Whiz2> deviance: i simply can not stop/remove lighttpd
[10:59] <wolferine> Whiz2, that had nothing to do with a dependancy issue, it was just a general suggestion
[10:59] <deviance> No, it wouldn't be a dependancy problem.
[10:59] <Whiz2> chemist109: E: invalid operation lighttpd
[11:00] <olimpico> In the startup I get: log_daemon_msn: Not found
[11:00] <olimpico> It's everywhere, please help
[11:00] <Whiz2> how do I log my system?
[11:00] <deviance> It automaticly logs I belive
[11:00] <Whiz2> someone here told me to log my system
[11:00] <nutshell42> Whiz2: is the lighttpd running? if not you could simply edit /etc/init.d/lighttpd
[11:00] <deviance> Hmm
[11:01] <bilbo-b> is there any method to do an expert install fom the live cd?
[11:01] <deviance> /var/log
[11:01] <deviance> Thats where your logs are
[11:01] <Whiz2> all my install/uninstall programs says it's running, but it's not in ps, or prcess manager
[11:01] <deviance> bilbo-b: there should be
[11:01] <deviance> Can you not press ecs on startup?
[11:01] <bilbo-b> but there isnt, isnt it?
[11:01] <deviance> Esc*
[11:01] <Whiz2> deviance: one moment lemme see what i can find in the logs
[11:01] <deviance> Ok
[11:01] <Whiz2> deviance: Esc???
[11:02] <chemist109> Whiz2: weird.  The command was right.
[11:02] <deviance> Sorry, I was talking to Bilbo
[11:02] <gansinho> please, I'm trying to upgrate from edgy to feisty and I get the following error messege: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[11:02] <nutshell42> Whiz2: if it's not in ps then it could just be a bug in the init-script. Just edit the stop part of the script to succeed
[11:02] <bilbo-b> mhhh
[11:02] <bilbo-b> i dont know
[11:03] <bilbo-b> ill try
[11:03] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i don't remember how, or where to do that. someone else did all the editing for me.
[11:03] <bilbo-b> it is supossed to escape to the command line?
[11:03] <chemist109> bilbo-b: I think you have to use the alternate disk
[11:03] <bilbo-b> i see
[11:03] <bilbo-b> ok, thank you
[11:04] <Whiz2> deviance: what am I looking for in the logs? which file?
[11:04] <Layer8> can someone help me with feisty and problems using ext. usb hdd?
[11:04] <nutshell42> Whiz2: cp /etc/init.d/lighttpd /etc/lighttpd.bak; nano /etc/init.d/lighttpd; search for "stop) " and remove everything between that and the next ";;".
[11:04] <NetersLandreau> i have a problem.. did the upgrade to 7 and now my computer won't boot even in single user mode.. dies loading system fonts.. any clues?
[11:05] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i can do better from the desktop... i'll do it that way. i can login to konq as root (i'm a cheater lol)
[11:06] <nutshell42> Whiz2: makes no difference. Just remember to make a backup copy before you start deleting lines =)
[11:06] <NetersLandreau> i am able to boot the cd and can see all my files.. they look to be intact.. it is preferable to repair this OS rather than a complete reinstall
[11:07] <MuJ> how do you turn off the announcement for "new" bluetooth device on startup?
[11:07] <Whiz2> nutshell42: if i remember correctly, kate automatically makes backups
[11:08] <nutshell42> Whiz2: *don't* rely on those
[11:08] <shawn34> what package do i need to install for mp3's in amarok
[11:08] <nutshell42> unless I'm mistaken it just creates blah~ files like most text editors
[11:09] <nutshell42> if you accidentally save twice, that file's useless (because it's overwritten)
[11:09] <nutshell42> shawn34: libxine-extracodecs if you use the xine engine
[11:09] <nutshell42> iirc
[11:09] <shawn34> nutshell42, thanks
[11:10] <m0n1t0r> Which is better Ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:10] <david_> May i please have help setting up a VNC server with 7.04?
[11:10] <TheDebugger> A matter of taste..
[11:10] <nutshell42> m0n1t0r: do you really have to ask? =)
[11:10] <deviance> Kubuntu :P
[11:10] <nutshell42> TheDebugger: traitor
[11:10] <Layer8> does noone have problems with external usb storage under kubuntu feisty?
[11:10] <Whiz2> nutshell42: ok i saved it as a bak, and reloaded the original... do i need to remove the word "stop)" too?
[11:10] <shawn34> m0n1t0r, all up to who you ask... and ahem.. your in the kubuntu room lol
[11:10] <m0n1t0r> deviance: What is the difference?
[11:11] <nutshell42> Whiz2: no
[11:11] <ForgeAu> kubuntu if you like functionality over simplicity, and ubuntu if you like orange, and brown...
[11:11] <Whiz2> ok
[11:11] <deviance> Kubuntu = Kde
[11:11] <deviance> ubuntu = gnome
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> real answer: it's all preference.  gnome vs. kde
[11:11] <Daisuke_Ido> we tend toward kde :)
[11:11] <shawn34> m0n1t0r, see, thats why you don't ask in ubuntu or kubuntu lol
[11:11] <m0n1t0r> shawn34: heheheehe I'm using now ubuntu, but I don't know the difference.
[11:12] <ForgeAu> its just the visual design (the window manager)
[11:12] <Whiz2> now do i simply try to stop it again, or do I need to reboot first?
[11:12] <ForgeAu> ubuntu uses Gnome
[11:12] <david_>  May i please have help setting up a VNC server with 7.04?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and default apps
[11:12] <bobleny> Hi, I have a bit of a problem... It is difficult to explain it here. All details of my problem are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2511557&postcount=1 You can telk to me through here, but I would prefer there. I need to keep track of what you say, and that is the best way.
[11:12] <Whiz2> nutshell42: now do i simply try to stop it again, or do I need to reboot first?
[11:12] <m0n1t0r> I know that kubuntu uses KDE. But anyone is more stable than other?
[11:12] <nutshell42> Whiz2: try /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop; it should do absolutely nothing
[11:12] <ForgeAu> (apps menu up the top second panel down the bottom - XFCE is similar but smaller bottom pannel)
[11:12] <sylpheed> ello
[11:12] <bobleny> !kubntu | bobleny
[11:12] <david_> sypheed hello
[11:12] <sylpheed> ^_^
[11:12] <ForgeAu> Kubuntu uses KDE single panel down the bottom (much like Windows' start menu)
[11:13] <nutshell42> m0n1t0r: not really, both have their problems
[11:13] <Whiz2> nutshell42: it simply went back to the prompt
[11:13] <nutshell42> how do I print as user?
[11:13] <nutshell42> Whiz2: that's good; now try apt-get again
[11:13] <Whiz2> ok
[11:13] <nutshell42> the printer is configured, it shows up in the cups configuration, it shows up in kde's config dialog when I'm admin, but it's not there as user
[11:13] <david_> Please help me and a friend with a VNC server installation.
[11:13] <m0n1t0r> Thank you very much. I will try soon the kubuntu. Bye.
[11:14] <Whiz2> yay! it removed! ty nutshell42
[11:14] <nutshell42> Whiz2: np
[11:14] <pattieja> hello
[11:15] <Whiz2> nutshell42: does that mean I can safely remove the lighttpd script from init.d? (along with it's backups)
[11:15] <david_> Vnc help please
[11:15] <Whiz2> david_: i can help with vnc what's the problem?
[11:16] <nutshell42> Whiz2: yes; best remove the symbolic links to it from /etc/rc*.d, too
[11:16] <Whiz2> nutshell42: ok
[11:16] <david_> Whiz2: A friend and I need to install VNC but when we Adepted tightvnc it did not automaticly start and we do not know how to fix it.
[11:17] <Whiz2> david_: are you trying to get it to start when you load the computer, or the desktop?
[11:17] <Whiz2> guess i wont' find out til he returns
[11:17] <nutshell42> david_: that's probably not what you wanna hear; but have you thought about using NX (www.nomachine.com)?
[11:18] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i use vncserver package
[11:18] <david_> Whiz32: I JUST installed tightvnc but I would like it to start when kubuntu starts
[11:18] <nutshell42> Whiz2: I use NX because it feels snappier than vnc
[11:19] <Whiz2> mine doesn't autostart either, but i don't start my desktop... if I could, i'd get it to run as my user when the system itself starts. (because I never load my desktop)
[11:19] <nutshell42> or ssh's X tunneling
[11:19] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i use vncserver because i use vnc on all my computers
[11:19] <Whiz2> david_: try aptitude install vncserver
[11:19] <nutshell42> Whiz2: that's not much of an argument, unless we're taking about dozens of them =)
[11:19] <Whiz2> you can have that start each time you start your desktop
[11:20] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i access them all from one computer, and i don't want to install a bunch of diff things in order to access diff computers
[11:20] <NetersLandreau> i have a problem.. did the upgrade to 7 and now my computer won't boot even in single user mode.. hangs setting up console font and keymap.. any clues?
[11:20] <Whiz2> specially since i use a vista PC to access them
[11:20] <nutshell42> didn't kde's desktop sharing start vnc automatically when you shared your desktop?
[11:21] <pattieja> When I did the automatic updates on Friday, Kubuntu said there was a new version available (Feisty Fawn).  So, I said 'yes' to automatically upgrade to that version.  I came back after the weekend, and had to babysit some of the upgrade details, since I made local changes to certain files, but then, when the installer got to the point that it wanted to remove outdated packages, it crashed when I selected 'remove'.  At that point, it ga
[11:21] <pattieja> ve me instructions to file a bug report, but when I clicked on the button to file the report, that crashed too, and I was left with my desktop.  So, I rebooted, since that was the next step the installer wanted to do.  Now, everything is extremely slow, and I am barely able to get the TWM window manager running (from which I have (barely) launched xchat).  KDE does not function correctly.  I am not able to login through the login windo
[11:21] <nutshell42> Whiz2: what I meant is that you could just as easily install NX on all of them
[11:21] <pattieja> w (may not be being patient enough).  I do not get a KDE splash screen.  So, I moved my .kde/ and .kderc files out of the way and ran 'xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1', which proceeded to (excrutiatingly slowly) take me through the KDE customization wizard.  However, when I finally got to a desktop, dialogs kept popping up stating that the trash protocol had unexpectedly died, and the something else had unexpectedly died, and did a few d
[11:21] <pattieja> ifferent protocols before it quit.  I was not able to logout.
[11:21] <wilman> what is the config file of xine?
[11:21] <pattieja> and I cannot bring up a browser to search for solutions
[11:21] <bobleny> !kubuntu | bobleny
[11:21] <wilman> !xine
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <david_> how do i start vncserver?
[11:21] <wilman> !Xine
[11:22] <david_> I try to connect and i get nothing
[11:22] <Whiz2> pattieja: next time it might be a better idea to paste that to http://pastebin.ubuntu.org/ instead of here
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: are other DE's just as slow as kde?
[11:22] <pattieja> Whiz2, k
[11:22] <Whiz2> david_: at the command line, type vncserver
[11:22] <david_> I did
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: what does top say?
[11:22] <pattieja> nutshell42, twm seems to be ok
[11:22] <nutshell42> pattieja: firefox?
[11:22] <Whiz2> dave_: should say something like "X-Desktop is network:X
[11:22] <pattieja> nutshell42, firefox doesn't even come up
[11:22] <david_> But it asked me for a password... i entered it... said it was started than i try to vnc to it with nothing
[11:23] <pattieja> nutshell42, top: load average: 0.15, 0.18, 0.18
[11:23] <nutshell42> if it does run, try to kill gam_server or fam_server, or something that sounds like that
[11:23] <nutshell42> paste a list of processes that contain gam or fam
[11:23] <nutshell42> *before* killing them
[11:23] <nutshell42> at least in debian that usually explains extremely slow kde
[11:23] <pattieja> nutshell42, currently the only process with 'server' in the name is dcopserver
[11:23] <Whiz2> david_: try removing tightvnc and vncserver then apt-get install vncserver again
[11:24] <nutshell42> pattieja: look for gam or fam
[11:24] <pattieja> nutshell42, there are no 'fam' or 'gam' processes
[11:24] <david_> k
[11:24] <pattieja> nutshell42, ps auxww | grep {fam|gam} shows nothing
[11:24] <nutshell42> could you paste the output of ps to pastebin?
[11:24] <pattieja> (separate commands, of course)
[11:24] <Whiz2> dave_: also make sure that if you're accessing through a router using the internet that you have TCP port 5900 routed to the IP address of that computer on the network
[11:25] <Whiz2> david_: if you don't, then your vnc viewer application will not be able to access the vncserver at all
[11:26] <nutshell42> pattieja: back to my original point; is everything slow or just kde? does firefox (or opera) run ok?
[11:26] <pattieja> nutshell42, firefox does not come up
[11:26] <uros> hi all. how do i test if my microphone is working? i have a program that looks for it in /dev/dsp by default - is this OK?
[11:27] <pattieja> nutshell42, hmm.  firefox-bin is in the Tl state as shown by 'ps'
[11:28] <pattieja> nutshell42, how do I paste to pastebin without a browser?
[11:28] <nutshell42> good point, send me a privmsg
[11:29] <jarle> isn't it possible to use symlinks in /etc/cron.weekly/ ? I have made a symlink to a script there, but it doesn't seem like the script is started...
[11:30] <Whiz2> nutshell42: there were no symbolic links in /etc/rc*.d for lighttpd so i'm not worried bout that :-)
[11:30] <TJensen> How do I control the settings of /media/.hal-mtab? It is automatically written when e.g. a USB device is added
[11:31] <david_> Whiz2: still not working
[11:31] <Whiz2> david_: is the computer you're trying to connect on your local network?
[11:31] <nutshell42> david_: does ssh tunneling work?
[11:32] <david_> Yes... and I dk
[11:32] <pattieja> nutshell42, did you get it?
[11:32] <Whiz2> dave_: does vncserver work on your other PCs on the same net?
[11:32] <nutshell42> pattieja: no
[11:32] <david_> yes
[11:33] <pattieja> nutshell42, hmm.
[11:33] <pattieja> I'm using xchat
[11:33] <nutshell42> open a dialog window and paste
[11:33] <nutshell42> if you did that
[11:33] <pattieja> I right-clicked on your name, opened a dialog window, pasted the ps output there, and then hit enter
[11:33] <nutshell42> then perhaps the servers doing some filtering stuff
[11:33] <nutshell42> strange
[11:33] <nutshell42> just write me something
[11:33] <pattieja> just did
[11:33] <nutshell42> in the dialog window I mean
[11:33] <Whiz2> david_: when you started the server did it tell you that X-dexktop was network:1?
[11:33] <pattieja> exactly
[11:34] <nutshell42> nothing
[11:34] <david_> Whiz: What all this about a XDMCP? Do i have to enable it or something
[11:34] <nutshell42> are there any server msgs?
[11:34] <david_> Yes
[11:34] <pattieja> heh
[11:34] <pattieja> guess I need to register
[11:34] <nutshell42> god, that's stupid
[11:35] <Whiz2> dave_: paste the entire message you got from the server to http://pastebin.ubuntu.org then paste the URL to the paste here, so i can have a look
[11:35] <Whiz2> david_: everything after you typed vncserver
[11:35] <pattieja> nutshell42, trying again...
[11:35] <nutshell42> woohoo
[11:35] <uros> hi all. i have a program that records microphone on /dev/dsp by default. since it does not work, is the adress ok? anything else i should check?
[11:36] <Whiz2> uros: might try changing the default address
[11:36] <pattieja> how about now?
[11:36] <pattieja> :)
[11:36] <pattieja> uros, make sure your mixer settings are correct
[11:36] <pattieja> uros, you might have to send /dev/dsp certain ioctl's also.
[11:36] <nutshell42> pattieja: the flood protection works very slowly, so it'll take some time
[11:36] <pattieja> nutshell42, k
[11:37] <david_> http://pastebin.ca/456526
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[11:37] <pattieja> nutshell42, I hope the server didn't queue up my previous messages before I was registered and send those, too.
[11:37] <nutshell42> it stopped after that one
[11:37] <nutshell42> no it didn't
[11:37] <uros> pattieja: tnx. what are ioctl's?
[11:37] <uros> whiz2: what could be alternatives?
[11:38] <sylpheed> vncserver
[11:38] <sylpheed> oops
[11:38] <Whiz2> uros: any device which is an actual device on your system (example: /dev/hdc1 if that is a disk device)
[11:39] <MajorApus> so it turns out that "Albatron PX865PE" drivers work well for my card, even tho its totally different, how would I tell it to use them??
[11:39] <Whiz2> dave_: vncserver -kill 1 (repeat that for 234 and 5, then wait a moment, try again, then paste again)
[11:39] <soulrider__> are there any programs i can use to easily write formulae with Latex ?
[11:39] <Whiz2> david_: sorry... vncserver -kill :1
[11:39] <nutshell42> pattieja: while it slowly pastes: does lynx work? what does a strace of konqueror say?
[11:40] <pattieja> uros, an ioctl is a communication channel between userspace and kernelspace
[11:40] <pattieja> basically
[11:40] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Somewhere in the modules config, alias <baddriver> <driverthatworks>.
[11:40] <MajorApus> jhutchins: where is the modules config?
[11:41] <MajorApus> jhutchins: whould I need to download the driver or is it already includeD?
[11:41] <pattieja> nutshell42, I do have links installed and running
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Unfortunately, it's all over the place, modprobe.conf, modules.d/, etc.
[11:41] <david_> Whiz2: http://pastebin.ca/456536
[11:41] <pattieja> nutshell42, my home directory is on NFS
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: If you find a file that's got aliases in it, go ahead and define it there.
[11:41] <jhutchins> MajorApus: No idea about the specifics of that driver.
[11:42] <pattieja> nutshell42, an strace of konqueror just paused at
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: its possible I dont need to do that tho, basically I just want my spdif optical digital output to work
[11:42] <pattieja> open("/exports/people/pattieja/.qt/.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 9
[11:42] <pattieja> fcntl64(9, F_SETLKW64, {type=F_RDLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=0, len=0}
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: i heard somehwere that there is a way to activate it
[11:42] <Whiz2> dave_: now paste the contents of /home/david/.vnc/David-Laptop:2.log
[11:42] <jhutchins> MajorApus: Hah.  Good luck with that.
[11:42] <nutshell42> pattieja: try creating a new user with a local ~
[11:42] <pattieja> and ~/.qt/.qtrc.lock
[11:42] <pattieja> I don't think the version of NFS on the server handles locks properly
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: linux doesn't support digital out? because if it cant its a joek
[11:42] <MajorApus> joke*
[11:42] <jhutchins> MajorApus: That's one of the major headaches with some newer cards.  The other one is that it defaults to spdif and you get nothing from the speaker jack.
[11:42] <MajorApus> jhutchins: my card is 4 years old
[11:43] <david_> Whiz2: the file is empty
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and in other news, i continue to hate my clone xbox 360 gamepad
[11:43] <jhutchins> Sound cards and ubuntu right now are a roll of the dice.
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> since, of course, it's not usable in linux :\
[11:43] <pattieja> nutshell42, I will attempt to login using a local user account
[11:44] <pattieja> thanks for the assist
[11:44] <Whiz2> david_: longshot... try rebooting the computer, then run it again & try to access it.
[11:44] <nutshell42> pattieja: hey, the ps is finished
[11:44] <pattieja> yeah?
[11:44] <nutshell42> god, flood protection can be too zealous
[11:44] <nutshell42> I never thought I'd say that sometime
[11:45] <nutshell42> pattieja: but you're right, NFS sounds like a likely culprit
[11:45] <pattieja> I'm thinking that something is probably missing in my installation that didn't get completed during the upgrade
[11:45] <pattieja> Edgy Eft never had these kinds of problems
[11:45] <nutshell42> unfortunatly, in my experience, nfs is extremely hard to debug
[11:45] <nutshell42> one reason I use sfs
[11:46] <pattieja> what's sfs?
[11:46] <nutshell42> a wrapper around nfs
[11:46] <Whiz2> i can safely copy/resize entire partitions using gparted without losing data right?
[11:46] <nutshell42> that tunnels nfs through ssh basically
[11:46] <nutshell42> it also has a global namespace, but the real point is that you can debug nfs and the network connection seperatly
[11:46] <pattieja> nutshell42, sounds like it could be slow too, plus introduce other issues
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> at least i have my trusty logitech gamepad...
[11:46] <nutshell42> although it probably won't help much in this case
[11:47] <pattieja> although it does present a neat ability to tunnel NFS over the Internet in a secure fashion
[11:47] <nutshell42> it *is* a lot easier to debug and more reliable than nfs ime
[11:47] <david_> Whiz2: nothing
[11:47] <nutshell42> but I'm not sure I'd wanna try it as ~
[11:47] <Whiz2> dave_: hang on a sec. lemme check something
[11:48] <nutshell42> that said, for normal operations it's snappy enough
[11:48] <david_> want ssh?
[11:48] <david_> I MIGHT be able too figure that out
[11:48] <pattieja> well, need to logout to login as another user, bbl
[11:48] <nutshell42> david_: I know I've already asked, but I'm not sure your reply was for me; does X tunneling with ssh work?
[11:48] <david_> I never tryed
[11:49] <imagine> how can I change the mount point on kubuntu?
[11:49] <nutshell42> david_: it would at least tell you that a connection is possible and that both X installations are sane
[11:49] <david_> nevermind ssh don't work ether lol
[11:50] <Whiz2> dave_: do youhave Xvnc installed, and/or running?
[11:50] <nutshell42> imagine: edit /etc/fstab
[11:50] <nutshell42> imagine: there could be a graphical way of doing it
[11:50] <nutshell42> but I don't know it =)
[11:50] <malik_> Does anyone know how to delete songs from the ipod?
[11:50] <malik_> or data?
[11:50] <Whiz2> david_: and does the viewer even give you a password prompt?
[11:50] <david_> No
[11:51] <david_> and Xvnc is a no also
[11:51] <david_> you only said vncserver
[11:51] <Whiz2> dave_: aptitude install xvnc
[11:51] <Whiz2> david_: you need that
[11:51] <nutshell42> david_: didn't krfb set up its own server?
[11:51] <jpattie_> hmm.  local user is lickety split
[11:51] <nutshell42> imagine: system settings -> advanced tab -> disk& filesystems
[11:52] <malik_> does anyone know how to delete  data from the ipod?
[11:52] <david_> Couldn't find package "xvnc".  However, the following
[11:52] <david_> packages contain "xvnc" in their name:
[11:52] <david_>   linuxvnc xvnc4viewer xvncviewer
[11:52] <nutshell42> malik_: didn't amarok have an ipod plugin? can't you delete stuff in their browser?
[11:53] <malik_> i cant see anything
[11:53] <Whiz2> dave_: try linuxxvnc
[11:53] <malik_> its a 2gig ipod
[11:53] <Whiz2> dave_: linuxvnc
[11:53] <malik_> and it says theres only 60mb left of free space
[11:53] <nutshell42> malik_: you can't see the ipod in amarok, or no way to delete stuff?
[11:53] <nutshell42> nothing in the right-click menu?
[11:54] <malik_> yea its there
[11:54] <malik_> but theres no music
[11:54] <malik_> and it says theres only 60mb left
[11:54] <david_> Whiz2: I did but still nothing
[11:55] <nutshell42> double-clicking? right-clicking?
[11:55] <nutshell42> malik_: open the amarok settings, media devices and try different plugins
[11:55] <anarko> hola
[11:55] <Whiz2> david_: do you have an x-server?
[11:55] <nutshell42> it should be set to apple ipod or something like that
[11:56] <david_> KDE
[11:56] <Whiz2> dave_: then i don't understand why it's not working
[11:56] <Whiz2> dave_: lemme check something else...
[11:56] <anarko> estoy buscando un antivirus para mi kubuntu para no pasar virus a los colegas con otros SO
[11:56] <malik_> no
[11:56] <malik_> I KNOW theres no songs in there
[11:56] <nutshell42> david_: didn't krfb set up its own server?
[11:56] <malik_> but its full
[11:56] <david_> WHAT is krfb?????????
[11:56] <fsdfsdffgd> huu! anyone knows how i can see the running processes? like alt&strg&del in windows? :O
[11:57] <malik_> and i dont know how to delete everything from it
[11:57] <pestilence> anarko: english here, spanish in #ubuntu-es
[11:57] <nutshell42> david_: kde's desktop sharing app; look in the kmenu
[11:57] <anarko> i'am sorry
[11:57] <nutshell42> I thought it it set up its own server, iirc from the one time I tried it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
[11:57] <Whiz2> david_: are you typing sudo before the vncserver command?
[11:57] <malik_> do you know how to restore ipod on linux?
[11:57] <SJrX> Anyone know with VMWare if its possible to get the autoresize guest feature working, easily?
[11:58] <pestilence> fsdfsdffgd: menu->system->KSysGuard
[11:58] <david_> Whiz2: no actually.... now i feel stupdi
[11:58] <fsdfsdffgd> thanks !
[11:58] <Whiz2> dave_: no don't do that
[11:58] <pestilence> malik_: you can format it using gtkpod
[11:58] <nutshell42> malik_: sorry, I'm just pointing you to the obvious settings, I've got no ipod =)
[11:59] <malik_> thanks
[11:59] <konrad> Hi, is it known that binary nvidia drivers doesnt work?
[11:59] <Whiz2> david_: no don't do that. you won't even be able to get to a desktop at all even if you can login if you type sudo before it
[11:59] <JohnFlux> fsdfsdffgd: or press ctrl+esc
[11:59] <david_> Whiz2: it don't work anyway lol
[12:00] <jpattie_> nutshell42, thanks for the help
[12:00] <pidgee> Hello all
[12:00] <malik_> you guys know when the kubuntu bugs are gonna be fixed?
[12:00] <nutshell42> jpattie_: nfs problem?
[12:00] <jpattie_> at least I have the right direction to go in, now.
[12:00] <pestilence> malik_: as soon as you report them
[12:00] <JohnFlux> malik_: what, all of them? :)
[12:00] <jpattie_> nutshell42, most likely.
[12:00] <nutshell42> jpattie_: I feared as much
[12:01] <pidgee> I try to upgrate edgy to festy... but it complains about space in /usr...
[12:01] <nutshell42> try removing the nfs config files, let apt reinstall them and then try to change as few lines as possible
[12:01] <nutshell42> I once traced a smb problem for half a day, no error msgs, no nothing
[12:01] <pestilence> pidgee: upgrading requires about a gig of free disk space
[12:02] <pidgee> it should be ok so... df -h returns "/dev/hda3             4,6G  3,2G  1,2G  73%"
[12:02] <nutshell42> until I found out that it was a documented option that was set but apparently removed in an ultraminor upgrade (xx.x.x to xx.x.xa in debian) and hung the whole server
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: you can try running "sudo apt-get clean", that will remove stuff you don't need anymore
[12:02] <Whiz2> david_: how exactly are you trying to access the server? by typing it's local network IP address followed by the port number? (aka 192.168.1.102:5900)
[12:02] <Whiz2> david_: in the viewer options that is
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: 1.2G is cutting it close.
[12:02] <david_> yes
[12:02] <david_> yes
[12:02] <jpattie_> nutshell42, I'm running kubuntu on my desktop, not the server
[12:02] <pestilence> pidgee: anyways, the installer won't lie to you
[12:02] <pidgee> it complains for 16.9 M...
[12:03] <Whiz2> david_: are you  using a static IP address for the server?
[12:03] <pestilence> pidgee: so it should be easy to free up that much space
[12:03] <pestilence> pidgee: run apt-get clean...that will most likely do it
[12:03] <Legolas> Ciao a tutti
[12:03] <david_> dhcp but its the right ip according to ifconfig
[12:03] <malik_> omg
[12:03] <malik_> there was actually files in the ipod
[12:03] <jpattie_> nutshell42, so, I'm thinking that it might have something to do with the changes in either the way NFS works for Feisty or KDE
[12:03] <nutshell42> jpattie_: good point; sure that the nfs server wasn't updated at more or less the same time? those kind of problems are the hardest to find =)
[12:03] <pidgee> I did it already
[12:03] <nutshell42> but otherwise, you're probably right
[12:03] <jpattie_> nutshell42, the NFS server has not been updated
[12:04] <pestilence> pidgee: du -s -h /tmp ?
[12:04] <pidgee> 12M
[12:04] <nutshell42> if firefox hangs too, it's probably feisty
[12:04] <pestilence> pidgee: :-/
[12:04] <Whiz2> david_: go to http://realvnc.com to see if they have documentation for vncserver, and possibly a support area
[12:04] <david_> ok
[12:04] <david_> thank you
[12:04] <Whiz2> david_: you have everything setup correctly, so I don't see the problem
[12:04] <david_> bye
[12:05] <pestilence> pidgee: uninstall some program that is > 19 M :)
[12:05] <jpattie_> nutshell42, firefox works for the local user, but not the NFS mounted home user
[12:05] <nutshell42> jpattie_: yes, that's what I mean
[12:05] <nutshell42> jpattie_: you could try to downgrade some packages; but that's a pita with apt-get
[12:06] <jpattie_> I have an installation of firefox on the NFS server that is shared that I can try with the NFS user
[12:06] <Whiz2> anyone know anything about gparted?
[12:06] <nutshell42> jpattie_: do you need your user-settings synchronized on more than one pc?
[12:06] <nutshell42> Whiz2: it's a pos =P
[12:06] <anarko> hello
[12:06] <jpattie_> Whiz2, I always use qtparted
[12:06] <imagine> How do I change the Kmenu icon?
[12:07] <Whiz2> nutshell42: i'm trying to copy my linux system & linux swap partitions to another drive, then resize the system partition, then make the new system partition active, then physically swap them
[12:07] <jpattie_> nutshell42, I work in a lab that has many Linux/UNIX workstations
[12:07] <nutshell42> jpattie_: if not, you could just use local home-dir and mount the nfs share somewhere below that
[12:07] <jpattie_> everyone's home directory is exported via NFS
[12:07] <Whiz2> nutshell42: qtparted also GUI based?
[12:07] <nutshell42> jpattie_:  well, I guess your answer is: don't install feisty =)
[12:08] <nutshell42> Whiz2: yes
[12:08] <jpattie_> Whiz2, qtparted is GUI
[12:08] <Whiz2> tyty
[12:08] <anarko> i'am looking for an antivirus for kububtu+thunderbird
[12:09] <imagine> anarko: no virus on linux
[12:09] <nutshell42> anarko: clamav?
[12:09] <konrad> I found a bug in NVIDIA driver!
[12:09] <konrad> after rmod nvidia && insmod nvidia.ko from volataile directory drivers works!
[12:09] <imagine> How do I change the Kmenu icon?
[12:09] <Whiz2> odd... apt-get install didn't ask for permission to conrtinue before installing... it usually does ask
[12:09] <jpattie_> anarko, the long way round would be to setup something like procmail or fetchmail that would run your mail through clamav/clamscan as it downloads it from the server, then you connect to a mail proxy running on localhost that feeds thunderbird your mail
[12:10] <jpattie_> I have not personally done this.
[12:10] <jpattie_> I always implement virus scanning on the mail server
[12:10] <kristjan_> any way to check what blocks sound device?
[12:10] <jpattie_> kristjan_, lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[12:10] <jpattie_> most likely artsd
[12:10] <nutshell42> imagine: replace the icon file
[12:11] <nutshell42> kmenu.png and kmenu.svg
[12:11] <imagine> nutshell42: where is it located?
[12:11] <kristjan_> jpattie_: it doesn't show nothing, but there is about 10second hang
[12:11] <Whiz2> since i have a web/mail server on my system, (for outgoing mail only) should I install a virus scanner on linux?
[12:11] <jpattie_> kristjan_, if you run 'lsof' by itself, you'll know why.  :)
[12:12] <nutshell42> imagine: /usr/share/icons/ or your home-folder (~/.kde/share...) in a subdir with the name of your icon theme
[12:12] <nutshell42> there are a number of subdirs with the different icon sizes
[12:12] <Whiz2> nutshell42: how do i copy partitions across different drives?
[12:12] <Whiz2> nutshell42: using qtparted that is
[12:13] <kristjan_> so weird my sound is suddenly gone (I was following a few documentaries with flashplayer)
[12:13] <nutshell42> Whiz2: create a new partition on the new drive, format it, mount it, then copy everything
[12:13] <imagine> ty
[12:13] <nutshell42> I don't know if there's an easier way
[12:13] <Whiz2> nutshell42: will that work correctly for copying the linux system/swap partitions too?
[12:13] <nutshell42> evms could have some advanced features for that kind of stuff, but qtparted?