=== superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === mimilus [n=mimilus@ADijon-257-1-63-119.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #launchpad [12:27] lifeless: ping === Saaraa [n=sara@85.15.18.201] has joined #launchpad [12:39] hi all [12:39] I am Sara Khalatbari [12:39] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/5394 [12:39] Some years ago I had a sara@bamdad.org email account [12:39] & I have done some translations and contributions with that [12:41] bamdad.org server is down now & I can not check those emails any more [12:41] could some one in charge please merge my current account with sara@bamdad.org and sara@khalatbari.info please? [12:43] https://launchpad.net/~sara-khalatbari [12:43] https://launchpad.net/~sara [12:43] These two accounts should merge [12:43] Thanks :) === Saaraa [n=sara@85.15.18.201] has left #launchpad [] === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@87.217.235.93] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@80-41-96-25.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #launchpad === jinty_ [n=jinty@87.217.235.93] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === mrsno [n=sno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #launchpad [01:15] hey, i answered incorrectly twice on the same answer, i do not see a delete option :) [01:33] lifeless: === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad [01:55] I got OOPS-478B1059 when trying to report a crash report via apport. [01:55] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/478B1059 === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0 public beta, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 26 Apr 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === Topic (#launchpad): set by mpt at Thu Apr 19 16:19:10 2007 === #launchpad [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === kiko is now known as kiko-zzz === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad [04:34] how long is lp down for? === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@58.181.239.218] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #launchpad === synfx [i=mezzanin@124-168-38-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === wiseelben [n=shira@ppp-70-247-115-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #launchpad [05:02] in the URL "https://code.launchpad.net/~pricechild/+junk/seminar", what does the "+junk" and "seminar" represent? I want to try out launchpad and bazaar without having to make a "test" project. How woudl I do that? === Prognatus__ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [05:06] wiseelben: '+junk' is a pseudo-project [05:06] wiseelben: and 'seminar' is the name of the branch [05:07] so would I create the psuedo-project or is there like a "default" test project? [05:07] wiseelben: +junk is there by default, so that you don't have to make a test project === who_cares [n=cameron@71-12-166-197.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has left #launchpad [] [05:07] wiseelben: anyone with a Launchpad account and registered SSH key can upload stuff to sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~>username>/+junk/ [05:08] ah I see === synfx [i=mezzanin@124-168-38-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #launchpad [] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [05:22] wiseelben: if you want to use more Launchpad features later, you can register a project and then move your branch over to it [05:24] how do SSH keys work? I have one registered in Launchpad, but when I try the commnad "$ bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elbenshira/+junk/bzrtest", I get $ bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elbenshira/+junk/bzrtest [05:24] err I get: No such Launchpad account: shira [05:24] Permission denied (publickey). [05:24] bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; EOF during negotiation [05:24] wiseelben: does your local UNIX user account name match your Launchpad username? [05:24] so I have to match it huh? [05:24] if not, then you'll need to add a few lines to ~/.ssh/config [05:25] it doesn't have to match, no. [05:25] what would I need to add? [05:25] If you add lines like the following to ~/.ssh/config, it should work: [05:25] Host bazaar.launchpad.net [05:25] User $LAUNCHPAD_USERNAME [05:27] is that it? wouldn't I need to declare what $LAUNCHPAD_USERNAME is? [05:27] ohh [05:27] sorry. I meant for you to replace that with your LP username [05:27] yeah, I figured that out [05:27] i.e. "User elbenshira" [05:27] (based on what you typed earlier) [05:28] this just tells ssh to use that username when trying to connect to bazaar.launchpad.net, rather than your local username [05:33] jamesh: alright, that worked. Thanks! =) === candrebs [n=candrebs@cm-virtua-poa-C8B0E27D.dynamic.brdterra.com.br] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === candrebs [n=candrebs@cm-virtua-poa-C8B0E27D.dynamic.brdterra.com.br] has left #launchpad [] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === wiseelben [n=shira@ppp-70-247-115-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #launchpad [06:24] how long should it take to scan a branch after I've pushed it? [06:27] a couple of minutes [06:27] when last I checked [06:31] Goooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [06:31] good day mpt sir [06:33] jml: I pushed my test branch (https://code.launchpad.net/~elbenshira/+junk/bzrtest) a while back ago, over 10 minutes now. You think the server's just a bit slow right now? [06:34] wiseelben: it's possible. it could be that we've changed some settings since I last looked === jml uploads a branch to see === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad [06:45] jml: taking a while huh? I'll just check back tomorrow =). good night (here anyways) [06:46] wisoops === stu2 [n=stub@58.181.239.218] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === stu2 is now known as stubu === stubu is now known as stub [07:53] poolie, you use "Fix committed" to mean "a fix for this bug has been committed into someone's branch somewhere" [07:54] How do you track whether the branch is ever merged into mainline? [07:54] oh, never mind, that's what you use Fix Released for [07:54] aaaaaa [07:54] (rgh) [07:55] New bug: #109514 in rosetta ""Languages in Launchpad" page has "no title"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109514 [07:55] New bug: #109517 in launchpad "Application titles are too high in Konqueror+Safari" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109517 [07:55] spiv: so, as I was saying, I've never actually hacked out of an imported branch before [07:56] New bug: #109500 in launchpad ""Hide my e-mail addresses" should be on E-mail addresses page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109500 [07:56] spiv: presumably, the cycle would be something like "branch from import; hack, commit, repeat; make a patch; attach patch to ticket on tracker"? [07:56] New bug: #109506 in launchpad ""Hide my e-mail addresses" should be radiobuttons, not checkbox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109506 [08:00] mpt: yes that's correct [08:00] jml: yeah. Or even a bundle :) [08:00] it's not ideal but it seems the most practical thing atm [08:00] spiv: can you apply a bundle w/out bzr? [08:00] jml: if it's an import from bzr-svn rather than launchpad, then in theory you can actually push your bzr branches back into the svn repo. [08:01] jml: a bundle is a patch with bzr metadata attached. [08:01] i.e. yes you can feed it to patch(1) [08:03] mpt: lifeless here - glad to have made your day. [08:06] spiv, eh? [08:07] jml, i think bug 36073 is wrong but i don't care to fight it [08:07] Malone bug 36073 in launchpad-bazaar "product owner should be able to edit some branch details" [High,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36073 [08:07] poolie: as in, 'is not a bug'? [08:08] i think it is a bug but if steve and mark are sure that it's not then that's ok with me [08:08] poolie: ok [08:09] Our specs should have not just use cases, but also abuse cases [08:09] heh [08:09] An abuse case here is that you're the maintainer of Foo, and someone registers a Foo branch with the description "Foo sucks donkey balls" [08:09] mpt, are you commenting on that bug? [08:09] What do you do about it? [08:09] poolie, I was just loading it to see whether I should [08:11] mpt: (that was lifeless using my keyboard, his is busted) [08:12] spiv, so now I'm waiting expectantly for lifeless to make my day somehow [08:12] Is he going to cook me dinner? [08:13] Or did he mean he was the one who came up with those bug status definitions? === mpt is slow today [08:14] poolie, I have nothing to add there === spiv -> travel === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === bmcage [n=benny@157.193.53.188] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c46d571a73f5b58b] has joined #launchpad === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #launchpad [09:11] heya - can we ban users from LP? [09:11] if you look at answers ticket 2722 you will see what I mean [09:12] urg [09:12] you don't see it in the web [09:13] http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/mail.txt [09:13] there's some kind of loophole that this user seems to use to send me spam [09:13] (that's the 2nd mail) [09:14] dholbach: users sometimes get disabled for spamming on the wiki too; if you catch an admin I believe they can do it [09:14] mdke: admin being stub? kiko? [09:14] I believe stub and SteveA are the only ones that can do it; I may be out of date though [09:15] ok [09:15] ping ping ping then :) === dholbach hugs mdke [09:15] thanks a lot [09:15] stub: ^ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === mdke hugs dholbach back === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [09:16] hey Hobbsee, hey sabdfl [09:17] hi dholbach :) [09:20] https://launchpad.net/~admins lists the admins [09:20] Bug I'm the only person who can disable accounts (needs to be done at the SQL level atm). [09:21] ok [09:21] thanks a lot stub [09:21] do you know what happens there? the text he mailed does not seem to show up on the webpage? [09:21] dholbach: That one has already been nuked [09:22] great [09:22] And mthaddon had already removed the comments [09:22] ahhh ok, that's why [09:22] (actually, mthaddon can disable accounts too. But it isn't particularly useful given we can't stop people signing up again with a new disposable email address) [09:22] sure [09:22] thanks mthaddon and stub === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.34.142] has joined #launchpad === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] [09:28] Hi, I program for gramps, question on LP, there is gramps, https://launchpad.net/gramps [09:28] can someone close those old bugs? [09:28] I see if you want to report a bug, you get warned not to do it, that is ok [09:30] bmcage: done. and you can do them yourself, btw [09:31] go to the bug, click on gramps (upstream) then set it from unconfirmed to rejected [09:35] so every user can do that? [09:36] oh, and thanks! === mwh_ is now known as mwh [09:38] anyone who has a launchpad account, yes === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:39] morning [09:41] hi carlos === Elwell [n=andrew@87.127.71.46] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:02] morning mrevell === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [10:03] popey: Hello! Everyone's greeting me, how nice :) [10:04] mrevell: you have set quite a bar on the classroom in the "quantity of text typed" department :) === jinty [n=jinty@96.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [10:05] popey: That was a majorly trimmed version. I spent all yesterday trying to get the balance right between amount text, covering all the interesting bits and not overwhelming people who aren't developers. [10:05] o_O [10:05] popey: The main part of the presentation still only lasted 30 mins or so, though. [10:05] popey: Reckon it was too much? === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [10:05] no, i was just staring at a blank editor wondering what to type [10:05] and watched your text fly past [10:06] and thought "gulp" [10:06] you are clearly destined for local government [10:06] :) [10:10] popey: that's cruel [10:11] harsh [10:11] so very very harsh === jkakar [n=jkakar@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:12] (I am only jealous) === bmcage [n=benny@157.193.53.188] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.1.32] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === jelmer [n=jelmer@157pc196.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44318.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@247.144.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko === muffinresearch [i=scol@nat/yahoo/x-58be3fdac88d4df1] has joined #launchpad [11:45] Hi is it possible to get an abandoned branch removed? [11:48] muffinresearch: not yet without admin intervention. There's a bug open on that topic. [11:49] can I get an admin to do that for me from here? [11:52] spiv, do you know how that is done? [11:52] I could do it [11:52] muffinresearch: if one of them is around, yes, otherwise make a support request at https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad [11:52] kiko: it's messy [11:53] kiko: I think only stub and ddaa know the details [11:53] nevah mind I asked then :) [11:53] kiko: there's lots of places outside the database that have references to branches (e.g. supermirror parts) [11:54] ok thanks spiv [11:54] I'm not able to access https://answers.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad [11:54] muffinresearch: oh, d'oh. [11:54] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [11:55] Sorry about that! === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #launchpad [12:13] spiv, you could review jamesh' branch that fixes the beta redirection problem... :-) [12:13] kiko: Or, I could have dinner :P [12:14] it is short, you could probably have both === adrigen [n=adrigen@218-215-7-93.people.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [12:23] hi [12:24] hey seb128 [12:24] are beta URL doing a redirection to non-beta when the user is not member of the beta testing team? [12:25] seb128: no i dont think [12:25] k === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk [12:58] seb128, it's a bug that we don't === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [12:59] bug 89183, to be precise [12:59] Malone bug 89183 in launchpad "beta URLs don't redirect to production if person is not in beta team" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89183 [01:00] New bug: #109574 in launchpad "Help panel leaks into the footer on production" [Critical,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109574 === stu2 [n=stub@58.181.239.87] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@131.Red-83-57-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === mwh [n=mwh@62-31-157-102.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [02:05] New bug: #109591 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS when a branch takes too long to scan" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109591 === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === cprov-out is now known as cprov === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [02:17] hey mdz === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad [02:18] I'm noticing a small peak in import fixage requests (2 from cjwatson, one from fabbionne so far) [02:18] I guess it's because it's now upstream merge season [02:18] mdz: how long does that period last? [02:19] I am asking, because maybe we should change our priorities to focus more on import coverage around ubuntu release time [02:20] ddaa: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule [02:22] mdz: currently, I've been asked about lintian, redhatcluster and openssh [02:23] I'm wondering if non-trivial problems are blocking if it's worth prioritizing fixes, or if a couple weeks delay mean that the guys will do the upstream merge some other way anyway. [02:24] mdz: I am being fuzzy in the questions, because I'm probing for what the distro team requirements might be. [02:25] morning folks ! [02:26] New bug: #109595 in launchpad "Create new make target to create appropriate static content for Apache" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109595 === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === carlos ->lunch === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [02:41] ddaa: there are relatively few instances where we can actually use bazaar for merging [02:41] ddaa: this is because the packages are not in bazaar [02:41] ddaa: obviously we aren't dependent on imports to do merges [02:42] ddaa: otherwise we'd have been crippled for the past several releases [02:42] mdz: are you telling me "do what can be easily done, do not get sidetracked"? [02:43] ddaa: that depends on what you would be sidetracked from and whether it would be useful for distro work === lifeless grins [02:44] imports are useful to us in a limited range of use cases [02:44] they seem to work well for the installer, which uses all native packages [02:44] yup, cjwatson is my biggest user :) [02:44] for most upstreams, we can't use it to merge because the packaging delta can't be represented properly in bazaar [02:45] this has always been the problem [02:45] lifeless: what are your current plans about this? [02:45] now and then I hear that the plan changed, so now I just have no clue at all of your status. [02:45] ddaa: get bzr 0.16 out the door. sit down with mdz in UDS a week later [02:48] mdz: the biggest piece on my plate for the next months is a reimplementation of the system that _drives_ the import, so it's better integrated with Launchpad, gives more feedback, and is more robust. [02:48] but little in the ways of improving the code that actually do the import [02:49] ddaa: I think that mdz is asking at a higher level. I think he is saying 'if what you are doing is more relevant to the distro than waht distro devs are asking for, then stay on that' [02:49] ddaa: and 'otherwise, yes please do help the devs when they have specific requests' === ddaa pauses and tries to get his ideas sorted === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #launchpad === mwh [n=mwh@62-31-157-102.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [02:53] Okay. I think we'll want this reimplementation before lifeless's packaging support is there. So I will help the distro guys for anything that does not require deep fixes. [02:53] In other words, pretty much how it was done so far. [02:53] (in the last few months) [02:54] mdz: thanks for the details. I'll give special love to requests related to the d-i. [02:54] ddaa: thanks === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #launchpad === stu2 [n=stub@58.181.239.87] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === mwh [n=mwh@62-31-157-102.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:04] hello? [04:05] I curious as to how the Bug Squad got subscribed to 25 question / answers [04:05] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5511 [04:05] The tickets all have e-mail pending for the bugsquad mailing list === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === xerosis [n=kieran@87-194-21-125.bethere.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:25] bdmurray: I guess someone of the team added the team as the support contact === dneary [n=dneary@251.9.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad [04:41] New bug: #109639 in blueprint "Beta: "retract mentorship" displayed when not a mentor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109639 === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl245.eduhi.at] has joined #launchpad === Bubble [i=Bubble@unaffiliated/bubble] has joined #launchpad === silwol [n=silwol@teacheradsl245.eduhi.at] has left #launchpad [] [05:12] carlos: okay, I'm gonna deny all the posts though so is there someway to stop it from happening in the future? [05:13] bdmurray, are you an admin for the bugsquad? === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [05:14] mpt: yes, I am [05:14] bdmurray: remove the team as the support contact [05:15] bdmurray, have you removed the team as the support contact? [05:15] Where would I do that? [05:15] I'm not seeing support contact anywhere [05:15] one moment [05:16] bdmurray: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+answer-contact [05:16] snap [05:16] which is linked to from http://answers.launchpad.dev/ubuntu [05:16] bdmurray: uncheck the team box [05:17] hunh, any idea how it happened? [05:18] someone from the team checked that box [05:18] We should let only admins of the team check the box [05:18] any member or an admin? [05:18] mpt: that's probably a good idea, please report a bug about that [05:19] bdmurray: currently any member can [05:19] Thanks flacoste, I was having trouble testing that locally [05:20] reporting it now [05:21] thanks all [05:21] mpt: while you are here, what's the rationale for obsoleting the pageheading macro? [05:22] mpt: putting the title in the main slot, displays notifications above the page title, which I find kind of weird [05:22] mpt: is that intended? [05:23] I hadn't thought about that specifically, but I don't see that it's any more or less weird [05:23] and it makes the code simpler [05:26] New bug: #98372 in launchpad "zope.testbrowser truncates document content after goBack()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98372 [05:28] e.g. I'm looking now at a notification saying "Thank you for your bug report." [05:28] which is followed by the bug number etc [05:29] then the bug summary [05:29] Looks ok to me. [05:29] But maybe that's an unfair case, since the notification is about the *creation* of the thing that immediately follows [05:30] It's like a visual colon ("And here it is:") [05:30] flacoste, do you have particular examples of pages where it looks weird? [05:31] mpt, well, i noticed that when trying to remove pageheading use from the question index [05:31] the weirdness was related to the space around the notifications i think [05:31] i'll post a screenshot [05:32] thanks [05:32] It's entirely possible that the margins are messed up [05:33] because I last touched the notification styling long before I started including visual-regression-test URLs in the CSS [05:35] New bug: #109652 in launchpad-answers "Non-admin team member can make the team an answer contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109652 === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [05:37] mpt: http://people.ubuntu.com/~flacoste/notifications-above-heading.png [05:40] ah yes, I have seen that before [05:40] but hadn't reported it as a bug, naughty me === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch [05:42] flacoste, why is the structural heading for that page "Continue playing after shutdown"? "Continue playing after shutdown" doesn't have Bugs+Blueprints+Translations [05:42] Ubuntu does [05:42] mpt: hmm, weird [05:42] mpt: you are right the header should be Ubuntu... [05:43] especially since it's already the

:-) [05:43] that's a critical bug for 1.0! [05:43] mpt: i'll file that and start working on that [05:43] flacoste, do you have any objection to my using that screenshot in a bug report? [05:44] mpt: be my guest [05:44] ta [05:44] To be clear, I'm reporting the one about the margins, not trying to report the one about the heading before you do :-) [05:44] we are in sync on that one [05:45] to be clear: that's what I understood :-) [05:45] tally ho === Laser_away thinks LP devs like talking to themselves in LP ;-) [05:45] New bug: #109656 in launchpad "Hard to figure out how to join a group" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109656 [05:46] New bug: #109657 in malone "Validating OpenPGP keys sends blank messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109657 [05:48] Laser_away, no, we're just very forgetful [05:49] ;-) [05:49] If I don't report bugs in Launchpad, I end up trying to keep track of lists of glitches on pieces of paper and in e-mail messages and so on === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A658D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [05:50] which is bad for prioritization [05:50] Rule of thumb: If it's too trivial to report in the bug tracker, it's trivial enough to fix Right Now. === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #launchpad [05:55] hello! can somebody tell me why ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com (address of 'bugsquad' team) gets lots of mails from answers tickets? [05:57] dholbach, that problem has just been fixed [05:57] great thanks [05:58] what was it? [05:58] It was probably because a member of the bugsquad made the team an answer contact for Ubuntu [05:58] ah ok [05:58] bdmurray has removed the team as an answer contact, and I reported bug 109652 on preventing it from happening again. [05:58] Malone bug 109652 in launchpad-answers "Non-admin team member can make the team an answer contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109652 [05:59] thanks mpt [05:59] You're welcome, and sorry for the inconvenience [06:00] New bug: #109660 in launchpad "Notification boxes have stray top margin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109660 [06:01] New bug: #98491 in launchpad "TypeError when passing list to" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98491 [06:03] dholbach: heah, have you tried the new mentoring thing in beta? [06:03] yes [06:03] it's nice [06:03] it could tie in well with MOTU Mentors [06:05] New bug: #109663 in launchpad-answers "Structural header is wrong on questions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109663 [06:05] mpt: regarding bug 109652, non-admins also can make the team a bug contact. Maybe that's also something to fix? [06:05] Malone bug 109652 in launchpad-answers "Non-admin team member can make the team an answer contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109652 === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [06:09] pochu, good point === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === tomtom_ [i=tom@gateway/tor/x-a5837bcb6afba9e4] has joined #launchpad [06:45] hi === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #launchpad [06:49] i've a question concerning the automatically created accounts === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [06:50] tomtom_: you might just want to throw your question out there [06:53] is there a possiblity to reqest the delet of an account that is not yours, but never used and the nick you are using normally === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === mvo_ wonders where OOPS-479C1526 comes from [07:17] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/479C1526 === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [07:25] popey: ping === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === Gunirus [n=Gunirus@unaffiliated/Gunirus] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad [07:57] flacoste: try saying "spingache" [07:58] ddaa: what's the story behind this esoteric incantation? [07:58] popey -> spinache === stgraber_ [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #launchpad [07:58] flacoste: you appear to have assumed I actually said something non-random [07:59] ah, it's the extra e that confused me [07:59] actually, the g was also confusing [07:59] without g, there's no ping [08:00] the e _was_ a typo [08:00] actually, a spello === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [08:01] flacoste: pong [08:02] see, it works :) [08:02] : === bac_afk is now known as bac [08:02] popey: are you ready for tomorrow session? anything want me to go over? [08:02] yeah, sorry i haven't sent it to you yet. I was kinda focussed on todays session :) [08:03] need to do some more and could do with a couple of lines intro as to who you are and what you do [08:03] lemme just bulk it up a little tonight and buzz what i have over, I will add more tomorrow :) === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db444cb.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad [08:12] popey: great, how was the session today? [08:13] yeah, went better than i expected [08:13] i didnt think there would be any interest or questions [08:13] I was answering them right up until the last minute :) [08:13] which was fun :) [08:13] that's exciting! [08:13] yeah [08:14] my copy and paste finger is worn out === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@165.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@165.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] === balrok [n=balrok@i59F75755.versanet.de] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-175.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad [08:26] New bug: #109716 in launchpad "Cannot join open team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109716 === sinzu1 [n=sinzui@pool-70-17-92-27.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === jinty_ [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === laszlok [n=laszlo@CABLE-72-53-73-3.cia.com] has joined #launchpad === shawn__ [n=shawn@adsl-68-122-34-109.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-068-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [09:17] Maybe this was answered during the Q&A session (which I missed), but is there a (publically available) schedule for implementation of Launchpad specs? [09:18] In particular I'm wondering if there's a timreframe for https://beta.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/soyuz-karma ? === cprov is now known as cprov-away === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [09:39] is it possible to allow guests to send bug reports to my package? i think the most users won't register for reporting bugs [09:50] balrok: no, atm they have to have an account before they can report a bug. bug 50653 is about this issue, though. [09:50] Malone bug 50653 in malone "Malone should support craigslist-style anonymous bug reporting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50653 [09:55] thank you. i hope it get fixed soon, cause the most users are frightened by registering on unknown pages.. so i actually have to use the sf-tracker (which is very hard to understand for new users) and post these bugs in the launchpad (which displays the bugs very good === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === gmt [n=gentoo@host149-149-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === salgado-brb is now known as salgado === cprov-away is now known as cprov === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === foobardfasdf [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === MrNOKIA1 [n=user@86.121.180.208] has joined #launchpad === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D4A5.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #launchpad === erstazi [n=erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi] has joined #launchpad === StevenBao [n=StevenBa@64.69.127.121] has joined #launchpad === MrNOKIA1 is now known as MrNOKIA === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-51-197.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === thumper [n=tim@82.153.21.252] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryanakca@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host47-174-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ [n=tim@82.153.21.252] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [11:42] kiko: this is the bug i was talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/94458 [11:42] Malone bug 94458 in malone "bugs.launchpad.net/project and bugs.launchpad.net/project/+bugs are different and not obviously linked" [Medium,Confirmed] === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-afk === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@247.144.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === chowmeined [n=will_@c-71-231-166-10.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === StevenBao [n=StevenBa@64.69.127.121] has left #launchpad [] [12:03] Are there any plans to improve the launchpad UI? I always get lost when I am trying to find bugs [12:06] chowmeined: i find the new UI alot better than the old one [12:06] I mean, it looks really nice [12:06] I just sometimes can't find how to do things like.. search for bugs for project X [12:07] or list all bugs in package X at revision Y === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host47-174-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [12:09] For instance, a way to browse for bugs, along with searching for them === mwh [n=mwh@62-31-157-102.cable.ubr01.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [12:17] chowmeined: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/94458