[12:11] <troy_s> kwwii_: He can't have it both ways -- if he wants designers that pay attention to contemporary trends, he is going to have to let go of his preconceived notions.
[12:11] <kwwii_> I think that is something that comes and goes with their feeling of being able to change things
[12:12] <troy_s> (and by contemporary trends I could give a flying feck about operating system trends -- as they will _always_ follow)
[12:12] <kwwii_> yes, that is true
[12:12] <troy_s> (at least until we have a healthy bed of operating system design out there -- which is happening slowly in the smaller distributions it appears)
[12:13] <kwwii_> it seems that with a smaller distri you have much more freedom that with the bigger ones
[12:13] <troy_s> bah, try telling that to apple.
[12:13] <kwwii_> although really, if things were well organized and planned that would not be the case
[12:13] <troy_s> more that the people THINK there is less freedom as they are afraid of generating any sort of discussion on the topic.
[12:13] <troy_s> kwwii_: By the way, I couldn't seem to find the Kubuntu screenshots for 7 oh 4
[12:13] <troy_s> you have any?
[12:13] <kwwii_> I'm talking linux distris that are not willing to pay a lot for the design and then pay again for the technical implementation of such
[12:14] <troy_s> osdir didn't seem to have anything different from the 6.10
[12:14] <kwwii_> troy_s: nope, I noticed that too and wondered why
[12:14] <troy_s> kwwii_: Do you have a link?
[12:14] <troy_s> kwwii_: Perhaps nobody bothered.
[12:14] <kwwii_> troy_s: yeah, I guess not
[12:14] <troy_s> kwwii_: It seems everyone is bloody well pumping Fedora at the moment.
[12:14] <kwwii_> man, I am passing out here...time for bed
[12:14] <troy_s> (regarding the screenshots etc)
[12:15] <troy_s> anyways, do you have one?
[12:15] <troy_s> I would like to see it.
[12:15] <kwwii_> nope
[12:15] <troy_s> Ah.
[12:15] <troy_s> Ok... get some sleep
[12:15] <troy_s> chat soon.
[12:15] <kwwii_> there are a few out there on the wiki somewhere
[12:15] <kwwii_> see you soon
[12:15] <troy_s> kubuntu?
[12:15] <kwwii_> yepp
[12:15] <kwwii_> at least on the release page and on the website
[12:16] <kwwii_> ok, me is gone for tonight...see you all soon
[04:48] <psymon101> sorry
[04:48] <psymon101> :)
[04:48] <troy_s> psymon101: Yeah I was gone too.
[04:48] <psymon101> Wife errands
[04:48] <psymon101> :)
[04:48] <troy_s> Still sort of am.
[04:49] <psymon101> no worries
[04:49] <psymon101> :)
[11:06] <lapo> hi
[11:09] <kwwii> hi lapo
[11:09] <lapo> yo kwwii
[01:31] <lix> kwwii: moin ;)
[01:32] <kwwii> lix: moin moin
[02:08] <lix> kwwii: Hello? Connection problems?
[02:08] <lix> kwwi: You there?
[02:08] <kwwii> lix: yepp, I tried to /msg you
[02:08] <kwwii> is your nick registered?
[02:25] <kwwii> lix: give me your email address and I'll send you links to the Ubuntu Wallet and CD artwork
[02:25] <kwwii> eventually I need to put it on the wiki, but I have other important issues atm
[02:28] <lix> kwwii:: sorry forgot to identify
[02:28] <lix> kwwii: got my address now?
[02:33] <kwwii> nope, you have to type it all in again :p
[02:33] <kwwii> but I will just point you to them
[02:34] <lix> hangon
[03:48] <lapo> kwwii: you forget to kwwii-ize the ubuntu logo on the top of the compiz cube!!! :-)
[03:48] <kwwii> lapo: haven't seen that yet, so I didn't know about it :-(
[03:49] <kwwii> lapo: although I have the dekstop-effects turned on, it does not do the workspaces on a cube thing for me for some reason
[03:49] <lapo> kwwii: its kinda picky on workspace configuration
[03:50] <kwwii> lapo: yeah, I got that feeling
[03:51] <lapo> kwwii: in the past it used to work with 4 workspaces, now (default config) I have a big one
[03:52] <kwwii> lapo: well, I tried all kinds of different settings and it would not work for me
[03:53] <lapo> kwwii: if you're in gnome you can try to unset all the compiz key from gconf to get the defaults back
[03:53] <lapo> keys
[03:54] <kwwii> lapo: perhaps I should just erase my .gnome dir or such
[03:54] <nothlit> lol removing the files is easier :P
[03:55] <nothlit> kwwii: .gconf/apps/compiz or something like that
[03:56] <kwwii> nothlit: thanks ;-)
[03:56] <kwwii> not in gnome atm but I will be soon :-)
[03:57] <lapo> nothlit: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz is not so difficult
[03:58] <nothlit> lapo: ahh :) lol i've only used vim or gconf-editor