[12:01] <stryph> Pelo:thanks any wan man ^_^
[12:01] <EADG> Whats the ubuntu learning class #?
[12:01] <foug> how do i force quit a process
[12:01] <LjL> confrey: not sure
[12:01] <Pelo> stryph,  you're welcome
[12:01] <sanityx> Does anybody have a Dell Inspiron 6000 Laptop?
[12:02] <Corgan> Good afternoon.
[12:02] <h4wk> I have Dell Inspiron 6400, sanityx
[12:02] <h4wk> If that helps
[12:02] <magnetron> J^son: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:02] <Keen101> foug, right click on panel and click "add to panel"
[12:02] <captaintrips> guess ill have to boot up my laptop and compare sources. i dont see anything out of order
[12:02] <manni2> hey all, there are all sorts of conflicting benchmarks for filesystems, and i'm wondering which would be best for a drive consisting of 2-10 MB mp3s and 150-300 MB avis, about 40 GB of each split evenly...
[12:02] <foug> Keen101: yea
[12:02] <manni2> xfs or reiserfs?
[12:02] <moonwatcher> PhilH: my current fantasy is parallels on a macbook pro
[12:02] <Keen101> foug, then there is a force quit app.
[12:02] <stefg> !cups | j^son
[12:02] <ubotu> j^son: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:02] <slackwarelif1>  I'm new, and I try to understand, so I ask forgiveness if I do some erros to post my doubts here. With Ubuntu 7.04 if I insert a new cd it does not open the CD/DVD burning windows. I think it is the same problem of Sound Juicer. Sorry if I mistake. Thank
[12:02] <moonwatcher> with linux and windows in a vm
[12:02] <metaphis> I have a problem installing phpMyAdmin with ubuntu Feisty... I did run apt-get and I did set a password the the root user of mysql but when I try to log in it says #1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[12:02] <moonwatcher> how would that feel?
[12:03] <manni2> if anyone would just tell me it doesn't matter too much then i'd probably never worry about it again...
[12:03] <velko> manni2, you are asking for a flame ware here :-)
[12:03] <NefariousAryq> Alright folks, I'm having an issue installing Feisty.  The installation cd wont let me do anything other than 800x600 resolution, which is absolutely a joke.  I'm using onboard NVidia GeForce 6100 graphics, on 19" widescreen acer monitor thats native resolution is 1440x900 ... but can easily do 1024x768 or 1280x1024...  At that lame 800x600 resolution I cant click on any of the Continue buttons, cuz they dotn fit on the scr
[12:03] <manni2> i'm so sorry.
[12:03] <jo_> SaveFerris: ok u have to reinstall all nvidia drivers, i using nvidia-glx and its very good under feisty,,, the best is to  ctrl alt f1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop AND than deinstall your current nvidia drivers and THAN install with sudo  apt-get install nvidia-glx and than sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:03] <manni2> so, unanswered question then.
[12:03] <velko> manni2, just pick one
[12:03] <manni2> hey, thanks!
[12:03] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,   menu > system > prefs > removable media ,  there are options you can set there
[12:03] <stefg> !fixres | NefariousAryq
[12:03] <ubotu> NefariousAryq: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:04] <Pelo> !it | slackwarelif1
[12:04] <ubotu> slackwarelif1: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:04] <SaveFerris> jo_: ok thanks, i'll give it a shot
[12:04] <sorcerer> hey guys iam about to install feisty fawn on a dell inspiron 600 .. and i have windows on it and i dont have the recovery disk if anything does go wrong but .. how can .. so this could i have windows .. on it and install ubuntu on a different partiotn or hwo does it work and what are the chances it might scre up ?
[12:04] <captaintrips> i wish i had a wireless router.... then i could get my laptop online without unhooking my desktop. lol
[12:04] <mwe> !alternate | NefariousAryq
[12:04] <ubotu> NefariousAryq: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[12:04] <NefariousAryq> Bzzzt, I'm not editing no files just to install Feisty.  If MEPIS can correctly, at install, set my screen resolution to 1440x900, why cant Ubuntu?
[12:04] <The_PHP_Jedi> sorcerer: uses differnt partitions
[12:04] <stefg> !install | sorcerer
[12:04] <ubotu> sorcerer: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:04] <The_PHP_Jedi> yeah
[12:05] <Klowner> anyone heard of or are experiencing problems after upgrading to fiesty, where apt-get upgrades just sit there and hang on post-removal script until I ctrl+c it?
[12:05] <PhilH> captaintrips: i have a wireless router and i can't get my laptop online with Feisty...
[12:05] <SaveFerris> jo_: could you repeat that when i come back in in irssi?
[12:05] <Klowner> I let this computer sit for literally 2 days straight and it never finished post-install of the package
[12:05] <Pelo> sorcerer,  chances it might screw up are  hard to evaluate,  you can resize the partition to make space for the ubuntu isntall,   back up your data first and defrag your hdd a few times with windows
[12:05] <slackwarelif1> ubotu: I have all option select in this pannel, but the if i insert audio cd Sound don't start
[12:05] <jo_> SaveFerris: yes, of corse, what is irrsinin??
[12:05] <Keen101> sorcerer, Chances are your whole hard drive is windows. In that case chose the option to re-size and install. There is very slim chance in my oppinion it will work.
[12:06] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,  ubotu is a bot , it jsut sends messages we trigger
[12:06] <sorcerer> crap so i need to format and start from scratch
[12:06] <Keen101> I mean i think it will work :)
[12:06] <J^son> this is probably a stupid question... but, I"m new to all this... when the instructions say to "uncomment" a line from a file.. what does this mean?
[12:06] <sorcerer> lol
[12:06] <captaintrips> thats weird
[12:06] <kbidd> how do I get my extra mouse buttons to work on my logitech mouse?
[12:06] <captaintrips> same sources.list and yet i managed to install mplayer
[12:06] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok give it to me (irssi is an irc client for the terminal)
[12:06] <Keen101> sorcerer, It should be fine.
[12:06] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,  did you try asking in the italian channel,  it might be easier for you to get help in your own language   #ubuntu-it
[12:06] <mwe> J^son: usually remove the # from the beginning of the line
[12:06] <moonwatcher> PhilH: bummer networking doesn't seem to work
[12:07] <Keen101> who was having wireless problems?
[12:07] <moonwatcher> its an image  i used to work with on windows
[12:07] <sorcerer> coudl i actually download the recovery disk for the laptop or do i have to buy it ?
[12:07] <moonwatcher> same machine
[12:07] <PhilH> moonwatcher: that sucks
[12:07] <moonwatcher> shoudl i reinstall vmtools?
[12:07] <SaveFerr1s> !irssi
[12:07] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[12:07] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: ok, how? and what do you need? info?
[12:07] <PhilH> moonwatcher: worth a shot
[12:07] <Keen101> who was having wireless problems?
[12:07] <mwe> J^son: lines in scripts beginning with # are regarded comments
[12:07] <J^son> mwe: and to comment means to add the #?
[12:07] <PhilH> moonwatcher: what kind of networking is the image set up for?
[12:07] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: just repeat what you said (i'm in tty3 now)
[12:07] <modex2007> Does anyone know how to get the mouse working in version 7.04 under virtual PC 2007, it seems to me there is an issue with the kernal, just wondered if anyone here has found the cure
[12:07] <Jello> Does anyone know of how to make GRUB shiny, pretty, and not just a boring text-based interface?
[12:07] <mwe> J^son: right
[12:07] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: ok one moment, il check
[12:07] <NefariousAryq> Shucks, what a shame.
[12:07] <moonwatcher> humm...
[12:07] <jason_123> hi all sup
[12:08] <moonwatcher> nat i think
[12:08] <J^son> mwe: thank you
[12:08] <captaintrips> brb
[12:08] <moonwatcher> i have a router
[12:08] <mwe> J^son: yw
[12:08] <jason_123> i got a friend that has a Opteron 165 AMD 1 gig ram
[12:08] <PhilH> jello, how much time do you spend sat looking at grub, does it matter what it looks like? ;)
[12:08] <moonwatcher> PhilH: i have a router with openwrt so i just used to assign it an ip
[12:08] <jason_123> and she cant get ubuntu to boot what could she do to get it to boot
[12:08] <Keen101> captaintrips, do you still need help?
[12:08] <Jello> PhilH: Not really, but if it's possible, I figure it might be fun.
[12:08] <Pelo> jason_123,   a freind ? yeah, sure , a freind
[12:08] <moonwatcher> and i think it was natting through the host
[12:08] <mwe> Jello: you can install splash screens for grub
[12:08] <jason_123> really a friend
[12:09] <Comrade-Serge1> does it matter what i call my ubuntu feisty burnt disc?
[12:09] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: ok first step: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:09] <jason_123> how can she get ubuntu to boot
[12:09] <Pelo> jason_123,  borked cd maybe ?
[12:09] <velko> Jello, apt-get install grub-splashimages (and read the docs in /usr/share/doc)
[12:09] <Jello> mwe: I know, but I saw a really nice GUI; it was glassy, and had a round thing as a timer.
[12:09] <Keen101> Comrade-Serge1, no.
[12:09] <PhilH> moonwatcher: well, i'm going to prod at the laptop some more, good luck
[12:09] <Keen101> who needed wireless help?
[12:09] <PhilH> Keen101: that would be me
[12:09] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok done
[12:09] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: 2.step: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[12:09] <Comrade-Serge1> Keen101 i got it called my disc and i burnt the feisty iso onto it but it wont boot to it help
[12:09] <Pelo> jason_123,  does she get as far as the boot menu or does nothing at all happen ?
[12:09] <mwe> Jello: I don't think that's supported. was it a joke maybe?
[12:10] <moonwatcher> PhilH: reinstalling vmtools
[12:10] <moonwatcher> hope it will help
[12:10] <jason_123> it sint booting kernel
[12:10] <Jello> mwe: I've never seen it with Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if it's at all possible; it was definately GRUB.
[12:10] <osirisx11> help request: i have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M chipset, what drivers should i use for proper 3d support? i have tried the Restricted Drivers under system admin and I've tried Envy, without any good results.
[12:10] <PhilH> moonwatcher: i somehow doubt that it would but it's worth a shot
[12:10] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: 3.step: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:10] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: lol it says nvidia-glx is not installed and therefore not removed, that may be my problem right there
[12:10] <Pelo> jason_123,  borked cd it my guess ,  try it on another cmputer,  or she might not have the right cd for her system
[12:10] <Outerlimit> Hello, I just got an Intel Core 2 Duo and I am getting ready to download and install Feisty Fawn... Should I use the x86 Disc.  And is there anything I should/could do afterwards to improve performance?
[12:10] <mwe> Jello: I've never heard of that. I don't think it's possible in standard grub at least
[12:10] <jason_123> ok ty u
[12:11] <moonwatcher> PhilH: diffrent version, diffrent host
[12:11] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than do sudo apt-get clean && autoclean
[12:11] <moonwatcher> it might...
[12:11] <Pelo> osirisx11, check the forum for your card model
[12:11] <h4wk> Outerlimit, Yes use x86
[12:11] <slackwarelif1> Pelo: I wite so bed in English
[12:11] <PhilH> moonwatcher: oh it might, and i hope it does, just doesn't sound likely
[12:11] <Keen101> PhilH:, hold on.
[12:11] <mwe> Jello: all you can do is put a 14 color 640x480 xpm as background
[12:11] <Outerlimit> h4wk, thanks!!
[12:11] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok done
[12:11] <osirisx11> Pelo I appreciate your help but could you please direct me a little bit more to which forum and which thread?
[12:11] <Keen101> Comrade-Serge1, Is your bios set to boot from cd?
[12:11] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,  no but it is apparent taht english is not your first language
[12:11] <jo_> installed nvidia-glx already?
[12:12] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: yup
[12:12] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:12] <shigutso> How do I configure Compiz effects on Ubuntu 7.04?
[12:12] <Pelo> osirisx11,  www.ubuntuforums.com ,  use the search feature to search for threads on your card model
[12:12] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: and?
[12:12] <osirisx11> thanks pelo
[12:12] <l2> can somebody please tell me where the oh-so nice Gnome control center is placed in feisty fawn?
[12:12] <stepnjump> Anybody familiar with adept?
[12:12] <Jello> mwe: I forget what distro it came with; it had something to do with gfxboot.
[12:12] <Pelo> shigutso,  ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:12] <Keen101> Comrade-Serge1, is your bios set to boot from cd?
[12:12] <PhilH> moonwatcher: did you build the NAT networking module?
[12:12] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: xserver failed to start
[12:12] <shigutso> Pelo, thanks :)
[12:12] <mwe> Jello: so not grub
[12:13] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: no problem could be xorg
[12:13] <Jello> mwe: damn, got me.  It's the SUSE bootloader I was staring at.
[12:13] <grisobg> Hi! I've some problems with my intel wireless 3945 card... can someone help me? :-(
[12:13] <lobosque> hello guys! my pc rebooted because my house had a energy breakdown. now my resolution is 640x480 and i can't change it back to 1024x768 (in "screen resolution" option)!!!! what should i do??
[12:13] <Jello> Sorry.
[12:13] <l2> anybody?
[12:13] <Keen101> PhilH, what was your problem?
[12:13] <stepnjump> How can I install firefox guys on my kubuntu distro?
[12:13] <slackwarelif1> Pelo: Yes, but I want to learn
[12:13] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: do ctrl alt f1 agin and login
[12:13] <Keen101> PhilH, what was your problem?
[12:13] <freemind> hello, I am looking for a tool or desklet which shows the availbility from rootserver(with ping or so?)
[12:13] <ubuntuEdgy> can any one help me with my ati drive, i realy need fglrx driver to work.
[12:13] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok, done
[12:13] <PhilH> Keen101: WG511 worked previously using prism54g under 6.10, now fails after upgrading
[12:13] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than again /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:13] <mwe> lobosque: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <h4wk> stepnjump, apt-get install firefox
[12:13] <Pelo> lobosque,   edit your xorg.conf file to add the extra res you need ,  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <h4wk> ?
[12:14] <kbrosnan> !firefox  > stepnjump
[12:14] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <Keen101> PhilH, what worked previously? explain........
[12:14] <h4wk> !firefox | stepnjump
[12:14] <ubotu> stepnjump: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:14] <stepnjump> Thanks h4wk Ill give it a try!
[12:14] <grisobg> Hi! I've some problems with my intel wireless 3945 card... can someone help me? :-(
[12:14] <PhilH> Keen101: the network card, perfectly
[12:14] <pavs> whats the release date ubuntu studio?
[12:14] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,  can you play an audio cd ?  can you start the cd burner app from the menu and us it to burn on a cd,  is your problem simply that the applications do not start automaticaly when you put the cd in ?
[12:14] <shigutso> Why in Ubuntu 7.04 Firefox's Backspace Button doesn't work anymore???
[12:14] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok what am i looking for?
[12:15] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: now search for "driver"under device
[12:15] <The_PHP_Jedi> it does work shigutso
[12:15] <JacktheHomeless> Real quick question, What is the command I type into the terminal to change the version of java running?
[12:15] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: what is there?
[12:15] <shigutso> The_PHP_Jedi, not with me... in 6.06 it worked fine... :/
[12:15] <lobosque> Pelo in the conf file theres already 1048x768
[12:15] <SaveFerr1s> says nvidia
[12:15] <moonwatcher> PhilH: no :( i just ran the script
[12:15] <PhilH> shigutso: is it a FF 2.0 thing?
[12:15] <slackwarelif1> Yes, after update to 7.04 it stop to work
[12:15] <moonwatcher> i didnt really know what it did :(
[12:15] <Keen101> PhilH, is network admin set to "roaming"?
[12:15] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: good
[12:15] <lobosque> mwe theres some things to choose in that config? can you help me in PVT?
[12:15] <osarusan> hi there... i was wondering if anyone can help me with a video problem
[12:15] <PhilH> Keen101: yes
[12:15] <zero88> ok,so i downlaoded and installed google-earth,wich is **ap on linux.and i am trying to use the uninstall file.but i keep getting an error saying "could not open product information for -L" can anyone help?
[12:16] <shigutso> PhilH, no... is that possible?
[12:16] <kbrosnan> shigutso: there are different shortcuts in the windows and linux version of firefox
[12:16] <lobosque> mwe is very hard to see the text in the channel with this resolution
[12:16] <Pelo> lobosque,  hmm,   sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <moonwatcher> PhilH: should i run the config script again and look carefully what it is doing?
[12:16] <hunter111> hi people from Mexico ... can you play quicktime movies in Opera 9.20? I'm using ubuntu 7.04
[12:16] <shigutso> kbrosnan, yea, but in Ubuntu 6.06 backspace really worked on Firefox...
[12:16] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than under device should be Option "AddARGBVisuals""True"
[12:16] <shigutso> damn :/
[12:16] <PhilH> shigutso: FF 2 behaves differently from 1.5, backspace doesn't work for me either
[12:16] <lobosque> Pelo nv or nsc?
[12:16] <JacktheHomeless> What is the command i need to type in the terminal to change the version of java that apps will run in?
[12:16] <Keen101> PhilH, set it to a manual configuration and see if that helps. the "roaming" feature is a little buggy.
[12:16] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: is there?
[12:17] <PhilH> moonwatcher: can't hurt
[12:17] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: sure is
[12:17] <Pelo> lobosque,  no idea,  what card do you have ?   nv is for nvidia
[12:17] <shigutso> PhilH, damn... why whis? :(
[12:17] <lobosque> Pelo ok, is a nvidia
[12:17] <osarusan> Has anyone else had a problem where their colors are messed up in video playback?
[12:17] <PhilH> Keen101: sorry, i've tried both
[12:17] <kbrosnan> shigutso: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325541
[12:17] <kbrosnan> PhilH: also above
[12:17] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: "AddARGBGLXVisuals" ???
[12:17] <shigutso> kbrosnan, thanks... gonna see it
[12:17] <Keen101> PhilH, have you tried unistalling network manager?
[12:17] <Jump86> osarusan, I did have a green tint to certain wma files.. but codecs and mplayer fixed it
[12:18] <moonwatcher> PhilH: /tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/common/task_compat.h:2073: warning: sysenterState.SysenterStateV45::validEIP may be used uninitialized in this function
[12:18] <moonwatcher> i get quite a lot of weird warnings
[12:18] <Keen101> grisobg still having problems?
[12:18] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: wait, just the one with addARGBGLXVisuals is there, not the other one
[12:18] <JacktheHomeless> What is the command i need to type in the terminal to change the version of java that apps will run in?
[12:18] <osarusan> jump86: I installed all the recommended codecs in the Add/Remove manager... colors were working fine in Edgy, but all video files (not just wma) are off on the color
[12:19] <Jump86> osarusan, what players are you using? and what type of files?
[12:19] <osarusan> it's only happened since installing feisty
[12:19] <PhilH> Keen101: my network card sits and flashes to itself continuously, do you think uninstalling network manager is likely to help? have you got a prism54g based card yourself?
[12:19] <osarusan> using "Movie Player" to play mpeg, avi, wma..
[12:19] <PhilH> moonwatcher: doesn't sound like fun...
[12:19] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: lets put it in: press the insert button on the keyboard and go with curser to the end of the "AddBlaBla"line
[12:19] <moonwatcher> PhilH: Do you want to be able to use host-only networking in your virtual machines?
[12:20] <moonwatcher> default is yes
[12:20] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: there press enter
[12:20] <Hotkey> Newb needing some help with video player - most all my videos will not play with new 6.10/7.04 install.  Another application?
[12:20] <PhilH> moonwatcher: you want to be able to do everything it offers
[12:20] <shigutso> kbrosnan, well, it seems that the bug has been already fixed, but not for we, Ubuntu users... O_o
[12:20] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok
[12:20] <moonwatcher> PhilH: :)
[12:20] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: and than in new line put: "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[12:20] <Pelo> Hotkey,  you may need to reinstall some codecs
[12:20] <Keen101> PhilH, no i don't have that card. Not sure if it actually will help. My wireless was not working and i unistalled network manager as a quick fix.
[12:20] <stepnjump> h4wk, do I have to download firefox first before keying in the bash command?
[12:21] <Dimicus> Hi guys. anyone can spare some min ? need help with the prob my soundcard can only play 1 sound device at the time when a friend that has the same can play several channes at the same time. etc team speak and play mp3 at same time. soundcard intel hda realtek alc880.
[12:21] <Keen101> PhilH, I do have another idea.
[12:21] <Pelo> !codecs > Hotkey   check your pm
[12:21] <moonwatcher> PhilH: ill pastebin the log when its done
[12:21] <Keen101> PhilH, I do have another idea.
[12:21] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: enter
[12:21] <PhilH> Keen101: cool
[12:21] <moonwatcher> so you can see if i didnt something horribly worng
[12:21] <h4wk> Sorry - I forgot you needed to do a manual install of firefox now :) stepnjump
[12:21] <h4wk> Read this.
[12:21] <Hotkey> Pelo Thx - easy to do with synaptic?
[12:21] <PhilH> moonwatcher: heh
[12:21] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: the AddARGBLXVisuals "True" line is there, just not the first one you typed (AddARGBVisuals) was that just a typo?
[12:21] <EADG> Anybody know the # for ubuntu open week?
[12:21] <h4wk> !firefox | stepnjump
[12:21] <sanityx> Hey what's a good way to update your bios if the only way to do it is with an exe file?
[12:21] <ubotu> stepnjump: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:21] <Pelo> Hotkey,  easier with the terminal
[12:21] <Hotkey> Pelo oh ok ill try that
[12:21] <osarusan> Jump86>the colors seem OK in VLC, but they don't display right in the default ubuntu movie player
[12:21] <Hotkey> Pelo thx for now
[12:21] <PhilH> sanityx: Freedos and a floppy or bootable CD
[12:22] <sanityx> PhilH Its a gui installer
[12:22] <sanityx> Windows gui, not dos
[12:22] <Jump86> osarusan, my advice, dont use the default player.. use VLC or Mplayer (I like mplayer)
[12:22] <AmirB> I recently upgraded to feisty from edgy and it installed 755 MB on my computer. Does it install that amount every time it upgrades? because I'll run out of disk space fast if it does...
[12:22] <stepnjump> ubotu, I'm actually on kubuntu
[12:22] <PhilH> sanityx: urgh
[12:22] <slackwarelif1> Pelo: I have exactly the problem you have described, ubuntu not active the Sound Juicer in automatic when I insert it, but I can listen the music
[12:22] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than write "AddARGBVisuals" "true"
[12:23] <Keen101> PhilH, I have fixed my wireless before (and fixed someone elses) by doing : sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and replacing everything with :auto lo
[12:23] <Keen101> iface lo inet loopback
[12:23] <Keen101> auto eth0
[12:23] <Keen101> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:23] <Keen101> auto eth1
[12:23] <Keen101> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[12:23] <Keen101> auto eth2
[12:23] <Keen101> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[12:23] <Pelo> AmirB,  new stuff,  you can uninstall stuff you donT need,   you can also try running  gtkorphan to remove orphaned dependencies
[12:23] <Keen101> auto ath0
[12:23] <osarusan> Jump86: thanks, i'll try out a few other programs and set one of them to the default.
[12:23] <Keen101> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[12:23] <Keen101> auto wlan0
[12:23] <Keen101> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[12:23] <The_PHP_Jedi> -.-
[12:23] <The_PHP_Jedi> no spamming.
[12:23] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: and than enter and "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[12:23] <stepnjump> h4, what do you mean by a manual install?
[12:23] <LjL> !paste > Keen101    (Keen101, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <stepnjump> I'm all new to all of this
[12:23] <CaptainTrips> how can i enable my s-video out on my laptop?
[12:23] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: "RenderAccel" "true"
[12:23] <Jump86> osarusan, if you need any help w/ mplayer then /join #mplayer the people there are very helpful and the player is the best ive found
[12:23] <EADG> Save it for !pasgtebin Keen101
[12:23] <osarusan> thanks :)
[12:23] <stepnjump> I even tried adept, add/remove. ... nothing seems to work
[12:23] <SeveredCross> CaptainTrips: What kinda card?
[12:23] <EADG> 'tard
[12:23] <Keen101> PhilH, but replace  ath0 or whatever you use for wireless
[12:24] <CaptainTrips> ati mobility m6
[12:24] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: put those under an Option heading?
[12:24] <LjL> EADG: sorry?
[12:24] <AmirB> Pelo: I ran gtkorphan and uninstalled the old kernel, still about 500 MB more than before... :(
[12:24] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: yes
[12:24] <SeveredCross> Install the ATI driver, that should do it.
[12:24] <Pelo> slackwarelif1,   then the  only suggestion I can think of is with that   removable media settings windows I told you about earlier,  I have no other ideas,  you can try checking in the forum
[12:24] <dad> I enabled 3d effects. Is this = beryl?  How do I do the workspace cube select thing?
[12:24] <SeveredCross> AmirB: You can also do sudo apt-get autoclean and sudo apt-get clean
[12:24] <CaptainTrips> only problem with that is if i install the ati driver beryl wont work anymore
[12:24] <AmirB> Pelo: just curious whether it's amounts like that every time it upgrades or was feisty a really major upgrade?
[12:24] <Pelo> AmirB,  well, I don'T know what more I can suggest
[12:24] <SeveredCross> dad: Generlaly it's set to the middle button I think.
[12:24] <CaptainTrips> guess i could try
[12:24] <SeveredCross> CaptainTrips: Compromise..
[12:24] <SeveredCross> S-Video or Beryl...
[12:25] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok done
[12:25] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: and than when finished search section module
[12:25] <Keen101> PhilH, but replace  ath0 or whatever you use for wireless
[12:25] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: make sure that dri is not being loaded,
[12:25] <Pelo> AmirB,   you can also try this,    run synaptic ,  bottom left , click the status button,  it will categorise the instaled apps according to install status,   you might be able to remvoe some more stuff
[12:25] <Keen101> I thought someone else was having problems with wireless.
[12:26] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: is it?
[12:26] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: lol, how do i get ot of insert?
[12:26] <Keen101> anyone still having problems with wireless?
[12:26] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: by pressing esc
[12:26] <Pelo> Keen101,  someone was but I  he might have left or be busy elsewhere
[12:26] <SaveFerr1s> ctrl-x aint working after that
[12:26] <regress>         "     ne
[12:26] <regress> ?
[12:26] <AmirB> SeveredCross: I just ran sudo apt-get autoclean and it said it was deleting a bunch of stuff (it cleared about 100 MB)...what was it deleting? anything important?
[12:26] <LjL> !english > regress    (regress, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:26] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: got it?
[12:26] <SeveredCross> AmirB: .deb packages it downloaded that it doesn't need anymore.
[12:26] <b_e_n_z> Keen101, me... wireless won't start on bootup, but after bootup a /etc/init.d/networking restart works
[12:27] <moonwatcher> PhilH: http://www.pastebin.ca/454957
[12:27] <regress> wow
[12:27] <SaveFerr1s> ctrl-x doesn't work once i hit esc
[12:27] <Pelo> regress,  try english or append the two letter language code to the channel name   like  #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-it
[12:27] <pepe_bcn> hola
[12:27] <AmirB> SeveredCross: ah, ok! great! and before I run it, what does sudo apt-get clean do?
[12:27] <regress> I don't even know what language that is...
[12:27] <moonwatcher> just finished uninstalling/reinstalling vmtools
[12:27] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: i'm used to nano, sorry
[12:27] <moonwatcher> waiting for it to boot
[12:27] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: because we have to save it by typping :wq
[12:27] <Keen101> b_e_n_z, that's pretty weird.
[12:27] <SeveredCross> AmirB: Same thing, it just forces it to delete all of them. :)
[12:27] <mzaza> I'm using Lenovo 3000 N100, any ideas why the internal mic, doesn't work?
[12:27] <regress> anyway, just upgraded to feisty, it's great, wanted to say thank you to everyone
[12:27] <moonwatcher> PhilH: btw its on bridged mode, is that what i want when i have a router?
[12:27] <SeveredCross> Instead of ones it doesn't think it needs.
[12:27] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: sorry for vim, is quite a ride...
[12:27] <moonwatcher> i want the router to asign the vm an ip
[12:28] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok, now what? some search thing
[12:28] <Keen101> b_e_n_z, What version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:28] <AmirB> SeveredCross: is it worth it, or dangereous?
[12:28] <PhilH> moonwatcher: how's it working after that?
[12:28] <SeveredCross> AmirB: Not dangerous at all.
[12:28] <SeveredCross> Why would it be?
[12:28] <b_e_n_z> Keen101, 7.04, amd64
[12:28] <SeveredCross> Any that it ends up needing, it can just redownload.
[12:28] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: ja search for section module in xorg
[12:28] <Pelo> later folks
[12:28] <SeveredCross> It's just .deb packages, not any system files
[12:28] <AmirB> SeveredCross: ok, thanks a lot!
[12:28] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: look for dri
[12:28] <SeveredCross> That should clean up some of the stuff left over from Feisty install.
[12:28] <moonwatcher> :(
[12:28] <SeveredCross> I'm trying tot hink of what else you can do.
[12:29] <moonwatcher> now i get a red sign on the vmtools icon
[12:29] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: it should not be there, than its goood
[12:29] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: nothing about dri
[12:29] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: good
[12:29] <Keen101> b_e_n_z, is network admin set to "roaming"?
[12:29] <AmirB> ok, another question:
[12:29] <b_e_n_z> Keen101, set to not roaming
[12:29] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: lets try if it works, but i think for now that there is some kind of driver problem...
[12:30] <PhilH> well, i really am off to see if i can convince this thing to play nicely now, i might even burn a CD from the Feisty ISO just so that i can scream and throw it out of the window...
[12:30] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: did you install under edgy any nvidia drivers??
[12:30] <AmirB> I was running Beryl in edgy but when I upgraded I tried out Feisty's built in windows effects and it worked much better with my system (smoother, faster). I was wondering how I could edit it's settings though, like I could with Beryl. How can I make some tweaks?
[12:30] <LaszloKv> Would anyone be able to help me with some questions I have about ktorrent and firestarter?
[12:30] <SeveredCross> PhilH: What's the problem?
[12:30] <pike_> LaszloKv: ?
[12:30] <PhilH> WG511 wireless card
[12:30] <moonwatcher> PhilH: now its nto red anymore but with the old "limited network availability"
[12:30] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ya, i used envy
[12:30] <SeveredCross> AmirB: No idea...Desktop Effects doesn't work for me, ATI drivers and all.
[12:30] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: AHA
[12:30] <SeveredCross> PhilH: No driver?
[12:31] <SeveredCross> Can't use ndiswrapper?
[12:31] <AmirB> SeveredCross: ah, ok. thanks
[12:31] <LaszloKv> pike_: I have firestarted set up with restrictive outgoing settings.
[12:31] <Keen101> b_e_n_z, hmm.... You could try un-installing network manager.
[12:31] <AmirB> anyone else know?
[12:31] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: X server still fails
[12:31] <PhilH> moonwatcher: wish i knew how to help, i haven't set up 2k3 in vmware before :-\
[12:31] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: thats the problem, we have to deinstall nvidia-glx for now and deinstall from envy the older drivers, i guess.. thats the problem
[12:31] <Keen101> b_e_n_z, if it doesent help you can re-install it. and re-install ubuntu desktop.
[12:32] <sping> hello!
[12:32] <LaszloKv> pike_: I made the port for ktorrent an exception.
[12:32] <PhilH> SeveredCross: the card worked flawlessly under 6.10, after the upgrade process i guess the drivers have changed and it no longer functions
[12:32] <sping> can anybody tell me what package <libscm.a> comes from?
[12:32] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: so thats the thing: stop xserver by typping: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:32] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok i removed nvidia-glx how do i take out the driver?
[12:32] <Keen101> PhilH, are you still having problems?
[12:32] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: (already stopped x)
[12:32] <LaszloKv> pike_ I was wondering why that whenever ktorrent is open firestarter is blocking a large variety of ports other than the port set for it.
[12:32] <jo_> yes, i'll check ok? one moment,,,
[12:33] <moonwatcher> PhilH: am i suppose to have another "virtual" network adapter in ubuntu?
[12:33] <moonwatcher> liek i used to have when it worked in xp?
[12:33] <sping> i looked at <scm> and <libsscm(0|-dev)> but it it doesn't come from there
[12:33] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: once deinstalled you could try to sart xserver again, could work!!?!?!?
[12:33] <Keen101> bIs PhilH still having problems?
[12:33] <PhilH> moonwatcher:  the vmnet adapters? yes i think so
[12:34] <Klowner> can't fscking uninstall openoffice, this is annoying
[12:34] <whileimhere> Can anyone tell me if by adding say 1,000 fonts to the GNOME font dir will it like WinXP slow the system down?
[12:34] <bloodMuffin> how do i uninstall (or update) Automatix for edgy now that i have fiesty
[12:34] <LaszloKv> pike_: Shouldn't all the downloads be going through just the tracker and main ktorrent port?
[12:34] <PhilH> Keen101: haven't been back to the laptop yet, presumably i am
[12:34] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: x server failed again, the output says "failed to load module: nvidia"
[12:34] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: guess that means driver isn't there??
[12:34] <moonwatcher> PhilH: humm... indeed i see them in ifconfig
[12:34] <Keen101> PhilH, did you try editing the network interfaces file?
[12:34] <PhilH> whileimhere: try it and see
[12:35] <PhilH> Keen101: i haven't tried anything yet
[12:35] <AmirB> how do I change some settings for the built in Feisty windows effects?
[12:35] <whileimhere> PhilH I cannot tell the difference. I have done it a few times.
[12:35] <xq> Is there a place to get more emblems for gnome? ;)
[12:35] <PhilH> whileimhere: i guess you have the answer then
[12:35] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: modprobe nvidia states "no file or directory"
[12:35] <whileimhere> PhilH I was hoping that someone had a dinfinitive answer on that one not a guess like I would make.
[12:35] <sdflke> how would one install ubuntu without acutally fireing up the dekstop? ie boot installer with no gui and not load everything else
[12:35] <moonwatcher> PhilH: maybe the nic in w2k in the guest shoudl be configured diffrently then it was
[12:35] <PhilH> whileimhere: if you're tried it then you have a definitive answer backed up by your testing
[12:35] <bloodMuffin> how do you uninstall applications that arent in the appilication list
[12:35] <moonwatcher> it was all dhcp
[12:36] <mjr> sdflke, alternate (server) install cd
[12:36] <comradeNikolai> how do you hibernate from the command-line?
[12:36] <AmirB> how do I change some settings for the built in Feisty windows effects?
[12:36] <iamtim> How can I enable the xgl xserver?
[12:36] <Keen101> sdflke, you mean like the alternate install cd's?
[12:36] <whileimhere> PhilH thanks for your input.
[12:36] <xq> bloodMuffin: Search for them in Synaptic, right click and Uninstall
[12:36] <sdflke> fuck, didn't want to dow nload another iso.....
[12:36] <LjL> !language > sdflke    (sdflke, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:36] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: thats cause now its messed up, old and new and so on, but it could be fixed, lets see, i'm sure you have to remove envy first, but i dont know how exactly, checking the web, ok?
[12:36] <WaxyFresh> how do youo type a cent symbol?can dvorak keybored do it?
[12:36] <xq> bloodMuffin: it should have all of the packages there if you have gotten them via Synaptic, the installer installed them or you used apt-get to install them.
[12:36] <ReDeeMeR> aight
[12:36] <dsnyders> HI All!  Can someone point me to a "what to do when your upgrade fails" website?
[12:36] <sdflke> shit i'm sorry!
[12:36] <bloodMuffin> thanks xq let me try to find it
[12:37] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: wouldn't apt-get remove envy take out envy?
[12:37] <PhilH> sdflke: yep, i'm afraid the only option from the primary install disc is that bloody horrible bloated liveCD
[12:37] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: how did you install envy? also with apt-get or synaptic??
[12:37] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: cause this could help
[12:37] <Keen101> dsnyders, umm.....
[12:37] <logennjonezz> if i installed 7.04 beta well it upgrade to 7.04?
[12:37] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: well back in edgy, i updated the kernel without updating the nvidia driver, so i installed envy from the terminal to help fix the problem, so ya, it was apt-get install envy
[12:38] <xq> yes, logen
[12:38] <ep2011> for feisty, does anyone mind telling me the method they used for encrypted dvd playing, I tried one and it got messed up so badly that I had to reinstall feisty... Lolo
[12:38] <ep2011> lol*
[12:38] <logennjonezz> thx
[12:38] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: is working??
[12:38] <james296> how come every time I manually add a application anywhere in the gnome menu, I HAVE to copy and paste where the icon is located at instead of finding the icon? because if I dont type in any file name, nothing shows up in the pane that lists the icons...
[12:38] <james296> is this some kind of annoying bug in Feisty?
[12:38] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: no envy apparently doesn't work with feisty
[12:38] <dsnyders> Keen101, miraculously, the upgrade has changed my IDE drives into SCSI (hda->sda)
[12:38] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: not yet at least
[12:38] <iamtim> How can I enable the xgl xserver?
[12:38] <bloodMuffin> sorry im new to irc how do you target someones name when you type out a message
[12:38] <xq> james: Never seen that and I do a lot of menu work.
[12:39] <Klowner> give me an ERROR apt
[12:39] <xq> james: What are the steps to reproduce it? You can /msg me if you wish
[12:39] <Keen101> dsnyders, wait, what was the problem you were having?
[12:39] <TECH_1> I've sent windoze packing.
[12:39] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: ok, than try sudo apt-get remove envy ?
[12:39] <Keen101> TECH_1, hoorah!!!!!!!!!111111
[12:39] <LjL> bloodMuffin: just type the initials, and then TAB
[12:39] <nighthawk71> Does 7.04 make use of both cores of a Core 2 Duo 4400 if I do not install the 64 bit version?
[12:39] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok now what?
[12:39] <TECH_1> Thanks...my hard disk is having a party.
[12:40] <dsnyders> Well, from what I can gather, my hda partitions are now sda (eg hda1 has changed to sda1)...
[12:40] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: install nvidia driver manually?
[12:40] <bloodMuffin> LjL: ah i see thanks:)
[12:40] <WaxyFresh> how do youo type a cent symbol?can dvorak keybored do it?
[12:40] <dsnyders> ... and the fsck is failing.
[12:40] <xq> nighthawk71: Yes, it should if it is an Intel Core Duo 2. It has very good support for Intel.
[12:40] <__mikem> LjL can you help me get my soundcard to work with ubuntu
[12:40] <AmirB> how do I change some settings for the built in Feisty windows effects?
[12:40] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: sudo apt-get clean && suao apt-get autoclean
[12:40] <captaintrips_> well. i got my wifi card working on both computers, but now im getting the same error from airsnort on both. lol
[12:40] <captaintrips_> /sbin/wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_wlansniff enable=true channel=1 keepwepflags=false prismheader=false > /dev/null
[12:40] <xq> nighthawk71: Runs fine utilizing all of the processor on my Duo Core 2 desktop and laptops
[12:40] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok now what?
[12:40] <Keen101> dsnyders, what did the upgrade fix?
[12:40] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[12:40] <captaintrips_> spams that when i scan
[12:40] <xq> nighthawk71: And I do not run 64 bit. Ever.
[12:40] <LjL> __mikem: dunno, what seems to be the problem
[12:41] <icf7> how do I install a package requiring accepting of a license (sun-java6-jdk) in a pbuilder environment?
[12:41] <__mikem> LjL, ubuntu doesn't see it
[12:41] <SaveFerr1s> glx!
[12:41] <czedlitz> is there a command to find out what version of Ubuntu i have installed on a system that has no monitor?
[12:41] <jo_> and than sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:41] <dsnyders> Keen, the upgrade was from Edgy to Fawn.  A bunch of stuff was unloaded/loaded.
[12:41] <__mikem> czedlitz, get a monitor
[12:41] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok cross your fingers
[12:41] <LjL> __mikem: if it's an ISA card, i'm afraid that's normal - but i suppose it isn't...
[12:41] <Keen101> czedlitz, there should be. but I don't know it.
[12:41] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: why??
[12:41] <xq> That has no MONITOR -- cz? I.E. Can you at least access it via telnet or SSH?
[12:41] <LjL> czedlitz: lsb_release -a
[12:42] <__mikem> LjL, its a soundblaster x-fi
[12:42] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: than sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start???
[12:42] <maniac> I'm having a field day getting direct rendering to work. Ripped xorg.conf apart! Can anyone help?
[12:42] <__mikem> I believe its PCI
[12:42] <dsnyders> The upgrade was done using the synaptic program.
[12:42] <mzaza> guys, i've got a weared error with my internal mic in my laptop. I can hear my voice playing back whenever i say anything in the mic through the speakers, but it's not working with the sound recorder nor skype. any ideas?
[12:42] <czedlitz> LjL, thanks
[12:42] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: is working or no?
[12:42] <LjL> __mikem bad news, first forum posting i can find says  As far as I know, ALSA does not support the Sound Blaster X-Fi cards AT ALL. And Creative's own http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html says "The X-Fi series of products are not supported under Linux. 
[12:42] <dg10050> hello, I was just going to upgrade to Feisty, but I also have kubuntu-desktop installed and I was wondering if that will mess anything up.
[12:43] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: looks like no, ctrl alt f7 just gives a blinking line at top left
[12:43] <dg10050> will it?
[12:43] <jo_> SaveFerr1s: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[12:43] <mzaza> guys, i've got a weared error with my internal mic in my laptop. I can hear my voice playing back whenever i say anything in the mic through the speakers, but it's not working with the sound recorder nor skype. any ideas?
[12:43] <__mikem> LjL, it worked fine with edgy
[12:43] <Keen101> dg10050, it should not. but i don't know.
[12:43] <dg10050> um, ok
[12:43] <icf7> dg10050: most likely no, because the kubuntu guys update too ;)
[12:43] <midori_> i can't find wine config file, so i can edit the version of windows to winxp
[12:43] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: says it's already at newest version and that it's manual installed
[12:43] <dg10050> so should it just get upgraded automatically?
[12:43] <midori_> can anyone help me!!!!!!!!! please
[12:43] <dg10050> ok
[12:43] <jo_> try also sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common before rebooting system :)
[12:43] <mzaza> midori_: run winecfg
[12:44] <luisgmarine> hello guys I just installed Ubuntu on my system with all the hdd dedicated to it, is there a website to get the basic things running?  Such as movies , mp3 players etc etc?
[12:44] <dg10050> I was just wondering if there was anything else I would have to upgrade aswell.
[12:44] <mzaza> luisgmarine: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:44] <midori_> mzaza, i need it in gedit
[12:44] <xq> Anyways, to the person without a monitor (IF YOU HAVE SSH/TELNET access or what not) just type cat /proc/version
[12:44] <jo_> ok than reboot, lets see if something happend!! man, i hope
[12:44] <dg10050> thanks bunches
[12:44] <mzaza> midori_: i don't get you
[12:44] <Keen101> dg10050, as long as ubuntu desktop is not installed, only kubuntu desktop should be upgraded.
[12:44] <xq> In the remote connection.
[12:44] <dg10050> :)
[12:44] <xq> And that will tell you the version among other things.
[12:44] <SaveFerr1s> jo_: ok brb
[12:44] <maniac> Anyone been able to get direct rendering going using Nvidia in Edgy?
[12:44] <james296> xq well can you help me with my prob or not?
[12:44] <dg10050> uh, ubuntu-desktop is installed too
[12:44] <xq> If you're even here anymore, forgot who asked.
[12:44] <luisgmarine> mzaza:  the brand new one, I'm trying to get those awesome freaking desktop effects
[12:44] <xq> James, I sent you a /msg.
[12:44] <dg10050> I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu
[12:45] <jo_> (thumbUP)
[12:45] <Keen101> dg10050, hmm........... not sure.
[12:45] <midori_> mzaza, im doing a tutorial to get warcraft 3 to work with wine, and it says i need to edit the wine config in text editor
[12:45] <Whitor> Hi, I'm trying to upgraade to feisty... and after  doing a " gksu "update-manager -c" "... and clicking the upgrade button I eventually get: "Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/dists/edgy/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily" any ideas ?
[12:45] <Keen101> dg10050, maybe you should find a dedicated #kubuntu chat room.
[12:45] <__mikem> LjL ARE YOU STILL THERE?
[12:45] <__mikem> Crap sorry
[12:45] <midori_> mzaza, "Exit winetools and open the wine config file that was created in a text editor (eg nano .wine/config). Look
[12:45] <midori_> for '[Version] ' and under that where it says:
[12:45] <midori_> "Windows" = "win98"
[12:45] <midori_> change it to:
[12:45] <midori_> "Windows" = "winxp""
[12:45] <AmirB> how do I change some settings for the built in Feisty windows effects?
[12:45] <dg10050> Keen101, well it's not a big deal if something is messed up, I'll just reinstall
[12:45] <LjL> !paste > midori_    (midori_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:45] <__mikem> Stupid capslock
[12:45] <LjL> __mikem: yes, i'm googling
[12:45] <mzaza> luisgmarine: you can simply click on the music and it will work directyl, and about the movies you'll need to install divx through a wizard. just try opining any video and it will guide u
[12:45] <WaxyFresh> can dvorak type a cent symbol?and if so what normal type of keybored key would be the eqivilent
[12:45] <dsnyders> Keen101, The upgrade was from Edgy to Fawn.  A bunch of stuff was unloaded/loaded. and somehow, my IDE drives are now SCSI.
[12:45] <james296> I never got it...
[12:46] <midori_> lfl, sorry
[12:46] <Keen101> dg10050, great attitude.
[12:46] <__mikem> LjL, sorry about the caps, the stupid thing didn't respond when I pressed it, (I use the caps lock in place of the shift key)
[12:46] <mzaza> midori_: you can simply change that with the command winecfg, you don't have to edit the wine config file.
[12:46] <LaszloKv> Would anyone be able to help me with some questions I have about ktorrent and firestarter?
[12:46] <Keen101> dsnyders, umm.... is that a problem?
[12:46] <midori_> mzaza, i think it goes back to win98 though
[12:46] <jones> hello
[12:46] <Keen101> hello.
[12:46] <james296> send it to me through here plz?
[12:46] <maniac> Can someone help me with direct rendering?
[12:47] <jones> i just installed ubuntu i just had 2 questions
[12:47] <MaNdRaKeZ> hi. what do i need to use wireless? I checked for drivers and they are supported by this kernel (i've a centrino chipset), so if wireless tools is installed, i need some other thing? how do i launch wireless tools?
[12:47] <dsnyders> Keen101, well, fsck cannot find the partitions it thinks are dirty, and I get dumped to maintenance mode.
[12:47] <luisgmarine> sorry mzaza, my X seems to be locking up
[12:47] <mzaza> midori_: you can edit your wine confguration through the command i sent you to edit the windows version. I'm using win 98 too under wine
[12:47] <xq> jones: Ask way.
[12:47] <SaveFerris> Jo_: no dice, x still fails
[12:47] <xq> jones: ask away*
[12:47] <sebsebseb> Been trying out the  Ubuntu Desktop Effects in Feisty this evening.  and  have just found out that it's not Beryl.  well what is it?   and  so I got to install Beryl  it seems also hummmm
[12:47] <luisgmarine> mzaza: I guess first things first, where do I get my nvidia drivers for my 6800 GT?
[12:47] <dg10050> Keen101, thanks :D
[12:47] <Keen101> dsnyders, oh....... were you the one having install problems?
[12:47] <AndyCR> hi
[12:47] <jo_> SaveFerris: ooo
[12:47] <james296> xq?
[12:47] <xq> sebas_: Compiz?
[12:47] <eck> MaNdRaKeZ: if you have an intel wireless chipset it should be usable out of the box
[12:47] <jones> I can not seem to connect or see my wifi
[12:47] <jo_> SaveFerris: ok
[12:47] <sebsebseb> I  serached for Compiz,  but nothing came up even
[12:47] <luisgmarine> I was Keen101, but I just did a full system install :)  Everything seems good
[12:48] <dg10050> gtg
[12:48] <sebas_> yep, why?
[12:48] <xq> james: Don't you keep asking me a question?
[12:48] <mzaza> luisgmarine: your runing ubuntu on a laptop or a PC?
[12:48] <dsnyders> Keen101, Yes.  I'm just looking for a website that lists what to do when things go wrong.
[12:48] <eck> MaNdRaKeZ: i.e. you should be able to connect using network manager or iwconfig/dhclient
[12:48] <luisgmarine> mzaza: desktop
[12:48] <haru> how do i configure my ubuntu system to be able to ping my lan machines via their aliases?
[12:48] <AndyCR> having trouble with suspend on an hp pavilion dv9000t notebook with feisty, half of the time it won't return from suspend
[12:48] <xq> sebas_: In Synaptic?
 --> Install NetworkManager after running apt-get update
[12:48] <jo_> SaveFerris: than you still could enable "nv" driver in xorg
[12:48] <TaJMoX> jones : can't see youor wifi card?  or wifi connection?
[12:48] <LjL> __mikem, not sure, but i have the feeling support has been taken out due to fishy reasons. like licenses and stuff. but i think you should file a bug about the regression
[12:48] <chickfila> hello i have laptop here installed with ubuntu and it's connected wirelessly to a router.  how can i share this internet connection (laptop) to a desktop computer through ethernet
[12:48] <james296> no you told me you sent me a message but I never got it
[12:48] <james296> what is it?
[12:48] <luisgmarine> mzaza:  I downloaded the 32-bit version but I'm running an AMD 64 3500+
[12:48] <jones> no
[12:48] <eck> haru: use the hosts file or set up the router to do dns
[12:48] <jones> its on roaming
[12:48] <midori_> mzaza, ill try it, hey how do i keep my mouse within the window for wine, i tryed checking the "stay in window" for graphic within the wine config?
[12:48] <sebas_> I don't understand why you are asking
[12:48] <joe_> is there a sound fix for the upgrade to feisty
[12:48] <mzaza> luisgmarine: That's a problem.
[12:48] <haru> eck, theres already a dns and a wins server
[12:49] <nixnoob> why can ubuntu not find iostream wen compiling a .c file?
[12:49] <__mikem> is there anything I can try just in case?
[12:49] <jo_> SaveFerris: and try to solve it from there, with feisty working with nv... ??
[12:49] <SaveFerris> jo_: it says that it's failing to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so and the nvidia kernel module
[12:49] <luisgmarine> mzaza:  running the 32-bit application from a 64 bit processor?
[12:49] <AndyCR> nixnoob: you installed build-essential right?
[12:49] <nixnoob> yes
[12:49] <luisgmarine> mzaza: I ran win XP regular?
[12:49] <eck> haru: if the ubuntu machine is using that dns then you should just be able to ping the machines by host name
[12:49] <SaveFerris> jo_: so change xorg.conf to device: "nv"?
[12:49] <Keen101> dsnyders, don't know. other than ubuntu forums, and bug reports on launchpad.net
[12:49] <Whitor> In Update Manager after clicking the upgrade button I eventually get: "Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/dists/edgy/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily" any ideas ?  ... apt-get update fails with the same error
[12:49] <haru> eck, unfortunately i am not able to
[12:49] <Klowner> is there some way I can force apt to think a package is uninstalled?
[12:49] <shric> nixnoob, you're using g++ to compile it?
[12:49] <mzaza> luisgmarine: I've never used a 64 bit machine before, so I can't help here. Sorry.
[12:50] <shric> nixnoob: iostream is not C
[12:50] <nixnoob> AndyCR does the file im compiling need to be in some particular directory
[12:50] <nixnoob> gcc u mean?
[12:50] <jones> If someone will help me with my wifi problem please private message me its too much text here
[12:50] <sebas_> xq: if I installed from Synaptic?
[12:50] <luisgmarine> mzaza: that's alright I know people that do it, I just want to get started on installing the drivers for my nvidia video card
[12:50] <jo_> SaveFerris: yeah give atry and disable all nvidia options like ddARGBBLABLAB
[12:50] <midori_> how can i keep my mouse within the window of wine, even if i checked the box within the graphic tab??
[12:50] <eck> haru: check the /etc/resolv.conf file to make sure it is using the proper dns server, and then if that looks good check the routing table with route -n
[12:50] <shric> nixnoob: if you use gcc on a .c file, it will interpret it as C, not C++
[12:50] <james296> maybe I should re-download Ubuntu Feisty Fawn...
[12:50] <luisgmarine> mzaza: like the latest of the latest tutorial out there
[12:50] <shric> nixnoob: so use g++, since iostream is C++, not C
[12:50] <Keen101> chickfila, Not sure, but I think it is talked about in the book: Beginning Ubuntu Linux: from novice to professional
[12:50] <dsnyders> Keen101, Ok Thanks anyways.  I hope I can find out why they switched my drives from hda to sda nomenclature.
[12:50] <ForzaPalermo> anyone find a fix for their being no sound for the upgrade to feisty fawn????
[12:50] <jo_> and coment out composite enabled
[12:50] <mzaza> luisgmarine: I think it should work with fiesty. Eventhough if it's not working try searching the wiki of ubuntu (wiki.ubuntu.com)
[12:50] <Whitor> is there a special channel for upgrad help ?
 Install NetworkManager after running 'apt-get update'
[12:50] <jo_> SaveFerris: and coment out composite enabled
[12:51] <haru> eck, any use of the wins server?
[12:51] <nixnoob> shric  you are the man
[12:51] <chickfila> Keen101: heh does me no good
[12:51] <calengo> hola
[12:51] <Whitor> upgrade*
[12:51] <haru> eck, plus we have 2 dns servers
[12:51] <mzaza> luisgmarine: you'll find a complete guide to help you installing the driver for your device.
[12:51] <bluekeys> Hello.
[12:51] <calengo> hay alguien?
[12:51] <luisgmarine> mzaza: ok going to try wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <captaintrips_> well. aparently the mobility m6 is so old ati no longer offers drivers for it. so how the heck am i going to enable the s-video out?
[12:51] <chamunks> Anyone help me with formatting my ipod shuffle in linux so that i can add new tracks via banshee?
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> Whitor: what do you mean upgrade help?
[12:51] <eck> haru: i'm not really sure how wins works, ubuntu will just use dns
[12:51] <Keen101> chickfila, hold on I have the boook.
[12:51] <Keen101> book.
[12:52] <bluekeys> I have small problems with my sound while on Ubuntu.
[12:52] <jones> its already preinstalled
[12:52] <mzaza> Guys, I can hear my voice through the internal mic in the speakers, but can't get it work with applications like the sound recorder nor skype. Any Ideas?
[12:52] <Toupee> I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a sound issue too.
[12:52] <bluekeys> Sometimes when I boot up I have sound, sometimes I don't
[12:52] <haru> eck, oki.. how do i use the other dns server
[12:52] <chamunks> It would be greatly appreciated kus i think i may have nuked my shuffles filesystem trying this myself... :S
[12:52] <Whitor> IndyGunFreak: apt-get update is failing... and so is the upgrade button in Update Manager
[12:52] <haru> eck, as there are 2 of them
[12:52] <bluekeys> Anyone know what might cause this?
[12:52] <TECH_1> After installing..(fiaif),,,is it configurable....where to find it.
[12:52] <jabbe1> help, i need data recovery software
[12:52] <LjL> __mikem: don't really know, what does "lspci" show about the card? what about "lshw -c sound"?
[12:52] <midori_> How do you keep the mouse within the wine window while playing a game or somehting?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> Whitor: don't know... sorry...
[12:53] <__mikem> hodl on
[12:53] <bluekeys> Maybe should I just ask on the forums?
[12:53] <SaveFerris> jo_: i don't see anything about composite enabled
[12:53] <chickfila> Keen101: oh okay
[12:53] <HOT> anyone had any experience of installing vmware workstation beta on fiesty without the "any any" patch?
[12:53] <Ronald> captaintrips_: ati m6 is a rage128 derivative. uses open source driver... 'ati' or 'rage' in xorg.conf. Ati never made a binary for it
[12:53] <jabbe1> or any kind of data recovery for ext3, i don't care how much it costs or how long it takes
[12:53] <disinterested> how do i create a default data base diretory for dvd rip-data
[12:53] <Whitor> Getting:   Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/dists/edgy/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily
[12:53] <__mikem> ljl, 02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[12:53] <AndyCR> anyone know why my laptop won't come out of suspend sometimes?
[12:53] <captaintrips_> ok, so how would i go about enabling the s-video out ronald?
[12:53] <SaveFerris> jo_: hey it loaded gnome properly
[12:54] <eck> haru: the default behavior is to just take the dns server from dhcp, if you want something else you would edit the nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:54] <midori_> How do you keep the mouse within the wine window while playing a game or somehting?
[12:54] <maniac> Anyone been able to get direct rendering to run on a NVIDIA card?
[12:54] <Ronald> captaintrips_: no clue. sorry. laptop i had didn't have, or at least I never cared for the tv out
[12:54] <Malachi> Anyone know how to play m3us in Firefox? I have the mozilla-mplayer extension, but it still gives me the open with box. I'm trying to use Jinzora, by the way
[12:54] <jo_> SaveFerris: uuu gooDD
[12:54] <mzaza> Guys, I can hear my voice through the internal mic in the speakers, but can't get it work with applications like the sound recorder nor skype. Any Ideas?
[12:54] <bluekeys> Anyone know why sometimes I have sound, and sometimes I don't? The only way I can fix it is to reboot and sometimes I'll have sound. Speakers are connected to an Audigy card.
[12:54] <jo_> SaveFerris: i was worried
[12:54] <haru> eck, the name server is set to 10.100.56.27
[12:54] <Toupee> I have a problem with sound being very scratchy and fuzzy sounding.  I have an Ensoniq card that sounds perfectly fine in windows.  Whenever ALSA terminates on shut-down the scratchiness stops.  I have no idea what to do.
[12:54] <__mikem> LjL did you get thatz?
[12:54] <haru> eck, so can i add nameserver 10.100.56.28 too
[12:54] <xSUSHix> !beryl
[12:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:54] <midori_> How do you keep the mouse within the wine window while playing a game or somehting?
[12:54] <jabbe1> !data recovery
[12:54] <jo_> SaveFerris: you could try here some to check under synaptic-manager what wrong
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about data recovery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <eck> haru: yeah, i forget the syntax. i think it is just space separated though
[12:55] <LjL> __mikem: yes, means it's at least seeing something, pastebin also lshw -c sound, and "lsmod"
[12:55] <mzaza> !compiz
[12:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:55] <Keen101> if people are having problems, you should report them on launchpad.net
[12:55] <AirHead> Is there any way I can boot from a specific partition from the Ubuntu install disc or somehow make a boot disc?
[12:55] <Whitor> whats better? Beryl or Compiz?
[12:55] <bluekeys> mzaza- I don't know if this will work or not, but I remember on windows you could open audacity and change the way the mic recorded
[12:55] <Keen101> if people are having problems, you should report them on launchpad.net
[12:55] <mluser> Does anyone know of a howto on setting up the nxserver/nxclient on ubuntu feisty?
[12:55] <iric> i installed restricted package but avi and mp3 dont work
[12:55] <Keen101> if people are having problems, you should report them on launchpad.net
[12:55] <bluekeys> Whitor- Beryl
[12:55] <jones> Can someone help me in a private window please its just to much chatting in here ( im not complaining )
[12:55] <jabbe1> does anyone know anything about data recovery on ext3?
[12:55] <jo_> SaveFerris: my english is freezing after midnight
[12:55] <Ronald> Whitor: features vs stability
[12:55] <__mikem> !paste
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <Whitor> Ronald: well put
[12:55] <mzaza> bluekeys: Do you know how can I do that under ubuntu?
[12:56] <maniac> JONES --> turn on private messaging
[12:56] <eck> haru: sorry, you would add an additional nameserver line
[12:56] <chamunks> any one know how to get ipods working in ubuntu i only seem to be able to view and play music off my shuffle and it seems to not let me clear off the old songs.
[12:56] <haru> eck,  ok
[12:56] <SaveFerri1> jo_: do what?
[12:56] <bluekeys> mzaza: I guess just open audacity (may have to download it) and then change how the mic is recording
[12:56] <soulcatcher> hey
[12:56] <Ronald> Whitor: beryl works fine here, apart from triggering(suffring from) a bug in the nvidia driver. which compiz would suffer from too
[12:56] <jabbe1> does anyone know anything about data recovery on ext3?
[12:56] <Keen101> jones, i dont blame you.
[12:56] <Crescendo_> Xinerama disables RandR - is there any way I can force it back to enable, and still use Xinerama?
[12:56] <Rynoo> anyone know how to change the taskbar/menubar colors in Gnome?
[12:56] <__mikem> ljl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17315/
[12:56] <Ronald> Crescendo_: afaik: no
[12:56] <MTecknology> where do I get a driver cd so Ubuntu 7.04 install can handle my ati card? fglrx is needed for this device...
[12:56] <Whitor> I'm using Beryl on an ATI card
[12:56] <jo_> SaveFerri1: your name changes
[12:57] <Keen101> chickfila, i'm still looking
[12:57] <Whitor> using the svn version
[12:57] <soulcatcher> can someone help me ?
[12:57] <Ronald> MTecknology: install restricted driver from same named repoitory
[12:57] <chamunks> Rynoo, look for themes under system / preferences
[12:57] <bluekeys> MTecknology: try using a program called Automatix
[12:57] <jabbe1> does anyone know anything about data recovery on ext3?
[12:57] <LjL> !automatix > bluekeys    (bluekeys, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:57] <SaveFerri1> jo_: ya, i'm on gaim in gnome and irssi in tty3
[12:57] <mzaza_> s
[12:57] <soulcatcher> i got lamp installed how do i save files in /opt
[12:57] <jo_> SaveFerri1: you know synaptic-manager?
[12:57] <Toupee> I have a problem with sound being very scratchy and fuzzy sounding.  I have an Ensoniq card that sounds perfectly fine in windows.  Whenever ALSA terminates on shut-down the scratchiness stops.  I have no idea what to do.
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> you're a glutton for punishment if you use ATi w/ inux
[12:57] <soulcatcher> i got lamp installed how do i save files in /opt
[12:57] <dsnyders> Hi all.  Problem solved (mostly).  IDE drives are now handled by the SATA code which places them in the /dev tree as SCSI drives.
[12:58] <SaveFerri1> jo_: ya
[12:58] <__mikem> ljl ^
[12:58] <soulcatcher> how do i save files in /opt with ubuntu ? :s
[12:58] <jo_> SaveFerri1: there you could press on search and let it search for "envy"
[12:58] <jabbe1> does anyone know anything about data recovery on ext3?
[12:58] <bluekeys> MTecknology: Actually, ubotu just sent me a PM saying Automatix is not a good idea, though it worked great for me. It says it could possibly break Ubuntu.
[12:58] <MTecknology> bluekeys: Ronald: I am trying to do a clean install of my system - X fails when trying to start up the CD.
[12:58] <jo_> and "nvidia"
[12:58] <soulcatcher> how do i save files in /opt with ubuntu ? :s
[12:58] <viktor____> i want to install older kernel version 2.6.15 on ubuntu feisty any help please
[12:58] <jones> anyone want to help me with my wireless network problem on msn yahoo or aim
[12:58] <__mikem> !patience | soulcatcher
[12:58] <Crescendo_> Is there a way to see what software I have installed that is above and beyond the base installation?
[12:58] <jo_> saveFerri1 and "nvidia"
[12:58] <ubotu> soulcatcher: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:59] <Ronald> MTecknology: thats a weird one. it should run using vesa vga
[12:59] <dsnyders> soulcatcher, mv file /opt/ doesn't work?
[12:59] <bluekeys> MTecknology: which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[12:59] <MTecknology> 7.04
[12:59] <maniac> Can anyone help me out with NVIDIA Direct Rendering?
[12:59] <soulcatcher> no, i use lamp webserver
[12:59] <iric> automatix?
[12:59] <Ronald> maniac: not unless you provide info
[12:59] <jabbe1> does anyone know anything about data recovery on ext3?
[12:59] <xSUSHix> soulcatcher : sudo nautilus     this will give you a file browser with full read/write permissions to every directory and file
[12:59] <soulcatcher> and i wanna save files into /opt/lampp/htdocs/
[12:59] <Keen101> jones, maybe when i get a min.
[12:59] <Toupee> I don't think anyone knows anything about data recovery on ext3.
[12:59] <jabbe1> shit
[12:59] <soulcatcher> nautilus, ok gona try brb ;)
[01:00] <LjL> __mikem: lshw says "unclaimed", that means no module is loaded. i can't even find what module would "normally" load (like, in edgy), so... file a bug
[01:00] <jones> thats keen
[01:00] <Whitor> Getting:   Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/dists/edgy/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily    Can anyone help me decipher what this means?
[01:00] <Ronald> I only know about data recovery on Reiser. Pay Namesys
[01:00] <jabbe1> well, is it possitble?
[01:00] <maniac> Ronald --> I've ripped xorg.conf to pieces and still glxinfo tells me it's turned off! Can I  post my conf somewhere?
[01:00] <burnhamd> after updating to feisty my nvidia drivers have broken
[01:00] <Ronald> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:00] <jabbe1> namesys?
[01:00] <bluekeys> Toupee: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=data+recovery+on+ext3&btnG=Google+Search
[01:00] <burnhamd> says that no screens are found how can this be rectified?
[01:00] <__mikem> how do I file a bug
[01:00] <Ronald> burnhamd: which card, which driver
[01:01] <icf7> Whitor: That's a normal HTTP status code, but it looks like you have a proxy or something
[01:01] <LjL> !bugs > __mikem    (__mikem, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:01] <Toupee> It's not me that wanted help with data recovery, but uh, thanks?
[01:01] <Whitor> nat, no proxy
[01:01] <maniac>  Ronald --> NVidia GeForce2 4000 -- Nvidia drivers (9631) with nvidia-glx-legacy (glxgears works)
[01:01] <burnhamd> Ronald: geforce 6600 with nvidia driver not nv I did install nvidia-glx-new if that tells you anything
[01:02] <toferrado> How do I know what's my wireless card chipset
[01:02] <Whitor> and its apt not web
[01:02] <Ronald> both the right driver afaik :P
[01:02] <Ronald> oh wait
[01:02] <viktor____> !kernel
[01:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:02] <SoulCatcher|AFK> can i paste an error ?
[01:02] <Ronald> maniac: 9631 is not legacy. legacy is a 7xxx driver
[01:02] <Bicchi> Anyone using the Gnome Main Menu (SLAB)? How do I create a new entry for an application?
[01:02] <Toupee> Anybody have any weird issues with scratchy sound in ubuntu?  Perhaps with ensoniq cards?
[01:03] <jabbe1> oh crap, is getting deleted data off ext3 even possible?
[01:03] <luisgmarine> so having the nvidia drivers are suppose to be unsupported since the drivers are proprietary?
[01:03] <Keen101> chickfila, can't seem to find it.
[01:03] <icf7> Whitor: it's not web, but HTTP. Have you installed a command line http client?
[01:03] <maniac> Ronald: I tried the newest driver and installer complained... said I should use legacy 9631
[01:03] <jo_> SaveFerri1: hey man, I'm going to sleep, hope you will get all working, at least you know now the problem, envy after upgrading to feisty has to be removed and nvidia components (re)installed, than update xorg and that should do the job, ciao man
[01:03] <Keen101> jones, what was your wireless problem?
[01:03] <Whitor> icf7: no
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | SoulCatcher|AFK
[01:03] <ep2011> for feisty, does anyone mind telling me the method they used for encrypted dvd playing, I tried one and it got messed up so badly that I had to reinstall feisty...
[01:03] <ubotu> SoulCatcher|AFK: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:03] <Whitor> ifc: getting the error in Update Manager
[01:03] <jones> Keen101 my problem is that ubuntu does not see or connect to my wifi
[01:04] <Ronald> maniac: I have to use 9631 on my gf4, but i think 9631 doesn't support GF2 cards
[01:04] <Keen101> hmm...... does not see it?
[01:04] <maniac> Ronald: Odd.. I've got it running (LinuxMCE) with full overlay. It's just the dri that I cant get to work.
[01:05] <jacquesmerde> is installing flash from the firefox install plugin method a bad idea as its not updatable? or does firefox rather than apt take care of that?
[01:05] <Ronald> maniac: can you pastebin your Xorg.x.log file ?
[01:05] <Keen101> jones, yahoo (sewerman0)
[01:05] <burnhamd> ronald do you know what might be wrong with mine
[01:05] <maniac> Ronald: Yes... 1 sec
[01:05] <nikitis> Anyone having problems with the snapshot manager in VMWare using Fiesty?
[01:05] <icf7> Whitor: yes, but I'm almost certain that you got a problem in your network. Would you be so kind to install dog and paste
[01:05] <icf7> dog  http://ubuntusoftware.info/dists/edgy/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz | head -n 10
[01:05] <Ronald> burnhamd: you too please pastebin log and config
[01:05] <icf7> to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?
[01:05] <iric> can someone help me I have been trying to get this to work for a week and I have problem after problem
[01:05] <Toupee> Is there any other kind of sound ... 'thing' I can try besides ALSA and OSS?
[01:06] <soulcatcher> its ok :p i used apt-get install nautilus again, i dindt know it was installed already
[01:06] <Pelo> icf7,  what is your current problem ?
[01:06] <maniac> Ronald: I've lost my bookmark to a paste site. you got any handy?
[01:06] <TheVault> I have a question. Is there a Free Open Source program thats like Adobe Flash CS3? Like the alternate to Adobe Photoshop is Gimp
[01:06] <Ronald> !paste
[01:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <Whitor> !paste
[01:06] <icf7> Pelo: mine? as posted, I'm looking for a way to install sun-java{5,6} in pbuilder
[01:07] <h4wk> Humm
[01:07] <Pelo> TheVault, you might find something in here http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[01:07] <h4wk> Need wireless help..
[01:07] <TheVault> Pelo: Thank you
[01:07] <viktor____> i want to install older kernel version 2.6.15 on ubuntu feisty any help please
[01:07] <h4wk> Using a Internal wireless intel card
[01:07] <eck> TheVault: you would need to program in actionscript
[01:07] <eck> TheVault: there isn't a gui alternative
[01:07] <drew> this may sound silly, but has anyone networked an xbox 360 with ubuntu 7.04?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> h4wk: state your problem
[01:07] <Pelo> icf7,  sorry but your pastebin was empty,  and also I don'T know anything about your problem so I can't help , sorry
[01:07] <Elazar> What command would I use if I wanted to see what DNS servers the local machine was using?
[01:08] <Toupee> does anyone know anything about SOUND in ubuntu??
[01:08] <h4wk> Well its not see it at all
[01:08] <TheVault> eck: Oh, I'm just going through and seeing alternatives to those applications. I'm glad there is a program like Gimp
[01:08] <AndyCR> hey
[01:08] <Pelo> Elazar,   possibly  ifconfig
[01:08] <HOT> can i install an RPM in ubuntu?
[01:08] <Whitor> This is the tail of my apt-get update command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17319/
[01:08] <soulcatcher> next question -> if i install wine, i install counter strike, i start it, that works all but i got no text in counter strike, help ?
[01:08] <icf7> Pelo: That was a post to Whitor regarding a completely different problem
[01:08] <AndyCR> for anyone having trouble with suspend to ram on laptops
[01:08] <AndyCR> try this link
[01:08] <AndyCR> http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/
[01:08] <AndyCR> hope it helps
[01:08] <AndyCR> works great for me
[01:08] <Pelo> HOT,  it isn'T recommended but it can be done if you have no choice,  you are actualy better off compiling form source   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:08] <h4wk> IndyGunFreak,  its not sensing it at all
[01:09] <jabbe1> there's no way to undo rm -r, is there?
[01:09] <charliesu> When using Sleep modes on a Desktop computer w/ Feisty does it kill network connections to programs like GAIM?
[01:09] <Whitor> I don't think its network related as I don't seem to be having troubles anywhere else
[01:09] <Pelo> icf7, ok , I'll but out then
[01:09] <HOT> Pelo: thought so :( vmware is being such an ass though
[01:09] <Toupee> Doesn't ANYONE know ANYTHING about sound?
[01:09] <eck> jabbe1: nope
[01:09] <Elazar> Pelo: Thanks.
[01:09] <charliesu> jabbe1: what filesystem?
[01:09] <main2> nice, im using LTS -> but during the installation of a package. -> adept locked up with the 'sun-java5-jre"
[01:09] <imbecile> can someone tell me what this weather app is called at the bottom of the screenshot? http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen20070112183143iu5.png
[01:09] <main2> because it shows a license, which i cant 'agree'
[01:09] <jabbe1> charliesu: ext3
[01:09] <Pelo> Toupee,  I know I can hear sound,  but did you have a specific issue ?
[01:09] <bloodMuffin> is there a way to resize partitions between ubuntu and windows
[01:09] <damian> Hello!
[01:09] <maniac> Ronald: Paste is here --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17320/
[01:09] <soulcatcher> AndyCR was that answere on my question ? :s
[01:09] <Pelo> bloodMuffin,  you'll need to do it from the live cd
[01:09] <Toupee> Yeah, Pelo, my sound is really scratchy.
[01:10] <Ronald> imbecile: probably gdesklets
[01:10] <damian> Speak polish?
[01:10] <imbecile> Ronald,  thanks
[01:10] <icf7> damian: #ubuntu-pl
[01:10] <Pelo> Toupee,  I suggest you check the forum for your soundcard model and see if there are recommendations in there
[01:10] <Ronald> maniac: log too please
[01:10] <charliesu> imbecile: yes.. gdesklets
[01:10] <AmirB> ndiswrapper isn't playing nice
[01:10] <AmirB> it was working fine for me in edgy, but in Fesity I am not managing to keep the alternate driver down. When I type ndiswrapper -l it tells me that the alternate driver is bcm43xx (which I read is bad). the only way to get it to work is to type "sudo dhclient eth1" (eth1 is the interface it assigns the wireless drivers) and then it works for a while until I have to type that again
[01:10] <maniac> np
[01:10] <bloodMuffin> Pelo: can i use 6.04 live cd even if im running feisty? or should i make a new feisty live cd
[01:10] <jabbe1> charliesu: nothing, eh?
[01:11] <charliesu> jabbe1: best bet is to turn off the comp and see if there is a live CD that can help..
[01:11] <soulcatcher> next question -> if i install wine, i install counter strike, i start it, that works all but i got no text in counter strike, help ?
[01:11] <eck> jabbe1: because of the way that ext2/3 is structured it is very, very difficult to recover deleted files
[01:11] <h4wk> soulcatcher,  #wine Will help you :)
[01:11] <jabbe1> charliesu: well, it's booting with the xfce ubuntu livecd right now, but i don't know what i'll find
[01:11] <stepnjump> step
[01:11] <Pelo> bloodMuffin,  a new cd would obviously be the prefered choice, but I have no idea if you can do it with the edgy one,  I haven'T heard of any changes in the ext3 or ntfs formats so I'm guessing it would work as well
[01:11] <wastrel> "cheese"
[01:11] <soulcatcher> ok ty
[01:11] <charliesu> soulcatcher: try cedega
[01:11] <AmirB> it was working fine for me in edgy, but in Fesity I am not managing to keep the alternate driver down. When I type ndiswrapper -l it tells me that the alternate driver is bcm43xx (which I read is bad). the only way to get it to work is to type "sudo dhclient eth1" (eth1 is the interface it assigns the wireless drivers) and then it works for a while until I have to type that again
[01:11] <jabbe1> eck: but not impossible?
[01:11] <maniac> Ronald: Log ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17321/   (no errors as far as I can tell)
[01:12] <AmirB> *ndiswrapper
[01:12] <Pelo> h4wk,   #winehq
[01:12] <h4wk> My bad :)
[01:12] <eck> jabbe1: i think you would have to have some knowledge of ext3 itself to succesfully recover files
[01:12] <Whitor> This is the tail of my apt-get update command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17319/  I'm getting the same error when I try to update to Feisty
[01:12] <eck> jabbe1: afaik there aren't any simple tools for doing it, although it is not impossible
[01:12] <bloodMuffin> Pelo: ok thanks ill try it out
[01:12] <jabbe1> eck: and it was a 300gb drive, too
[01:12] <ep2011> does anyone mind helping me set up encrypted dvd playing in feisty? I tried it but it messed up so bad that I reinstalled... Im on a clean install now
[01:12] <Pelo> sigh,  my upgrade just died in dl
[01:13] <soulcatcher> hmm, nobody there
[01:13] <Pelo> bloodMuffin,   defrag your windows partition first
[01:13] <jabbe1> eck: well, know of anywhere i should start?
[01:13] <neo2dot0> how do i set alsamixer to my usb sound card?
[01:13] <soulcatcher> is there an other program like wine ? that does the same ?
[01:13] <Pelo> cedega
[01:13] <haru> eck, apprantly i have to install winbind
[01:14] <haru> eck, and edit nsswitch :S
[01:14] <Whitor> soulcatcher: yes
[01:14] <soulcatcher> Pelo , did you say that to me ?
[01:14] <bloodMuffin> Pelo: I see, is there any risk of losing data?
[01:14] <Whitor> cedega I think
[01:14] <soulcatcher> and what ?
[01:14] <Pelo> soulcatcher, yes I did
[01:14] <soulcatcher> oh, ok ty Pelo
[01:14] <Pelo> bloodMuffin,  yes,  you better backup first, I though that was implied
[01:14] <eck> jabbe1: you can grep the raw hard drive
[01:14] <luisgmarine> where can I find a terminal to install flash 7 for firefox?
[01:15] <eck> jabbe1: see this http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2003-November/010689.html
[01:15] <Pelo> soulcatcher,   cedega is propriatary and commercial ( ie you need to pay for it ) ,  what is yoru issue with wine anyway ?
[01:15] <h4wk> Im not quite sure what wireless netowork card ive got - Im on a Dell Inspirion 6400
[01:15] <haru> luisgmarine, see ubuntuguide
[01:15] <bloodMuffin> Pelo: thanks
[01:15] <Ronald> maniac: are you using Xgl ?
[01:15] <maniac> Ronald: xlg-legacy yes
[01:15] <haru> luisgmarine, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:15] <eck> jabbe1: you can "undelete" files that still have an open fd though
[01:16] <h4wk> !wireless
[01:16] <luisgmarine> haru: thank you soo much , just what I was looking for!
[01:16] <Ronald> maniac: don't. beryl can run straight onto X using AIGLX
[01:16] <soulcatcher> @ Pelo i wanna use it for counter strike ... but i got no tekst in counter strike when i run it
[01:16] <Ronald> maniac: within xgl, no dri
[01:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <soulcatcher> pelo, else it works fine
[01:16] <maniac> Ronald: I'm not trying to use Beryl. Trying to sort out MythTV errors. It seems to need dri
[01:16] <Pelo> soulcatcher,  did you ask for help in #winehq ?  they are the ppl to ask
[01:17] <Ronald> maniac: no dri is normal inside xgl afaik
[01:17] <soulcatcher> oh, no, they said #wine and there is nobody, i will try, ty pelo
[01:17] <loca|host> how to make the upgrade from edgy to feisty ?
[01:17] <maniac> Ronald: And I though AIGLX is only sdupported by new Nvidia drivers
[01:17] <Pelo> soulcatcher,  you welcome
[01:17] <jabbe1> eck, wait, open fd? what's that mean?
[01:17] <Ronald> maniac: i use it on 9631
[01:17] <luisgmarine> haru: how do I navigate it?
[01:17] <Pelo> loca|host,   wait a few days and run the upgrade manager in system > admin ,  the servers are very busy atm
[01:17] <bloodMuffin> can someone send me a link to the feisty torrent
[01:18] <Ronald> maniac: just windows turn black when the card runs out off ram since a driver bug prevents agp memory
[01:18] <Pelo> !torrents > bloodMuffin
[01:18] <loca|host> Pelo, ok
[01:18] <maniac> Ronald: This is my error: 'glxinfo | grep render' --> gives me ''direct rendering: No'
[01:18] <Pelo> bloodMuffin,   I just realised you have a very sick nick
[01:18] <Ronald> maniac: yeahyeah, thats within the xgl server right :)?
[01:18] <eck> jabbe1: file descriptor. for example, if you had a directory with a bunch of music and you deleted it, but had a song open in a music player, you could recover that one song
[01:19] <maniac> Ronald: I'm not following -- in glx server?
[01:19] <elpargo> is there a way I could find out which packages are installed but not used often?
[01:19] <eck> jabbe1: files aren't actually deleted until all of the open file descriptors are released, which is why it is possible
[01:19] <Ronald> maniac: i askes if you run xgl on top of plain x\
[01:19] <vega-> i just add a new HD in 7.4 its fat32 but i cant find it?
[01:20] <Pelo> me is out
[01:20] <loca|host> Pelo, howto upgrade not using the upgrade manager ? does apt-get do it with a simple dist-upgrade after updating the sources.list ?
[01:20] <maniac> Ronald: I think so yes!?  (Stil a little new to all of this)
[01:20] <Toupee> I just fixed my sound, in case anyone was curious
[01:20] <AndyCR> by the way
[01:20] <AndyCR> don't know if anyone remembers me, but I was the person who couldn't get wireless-manager to work with wep and my ipw3945
[01:20] <mikere> vega-: where are you looking for the new drive?
[01:20] <AndyCR> it was fixed in the final release, so the bug isn't there anymore
[01:20] <ubuntuEdgy> how do i reinstall , sudo apt-get reinstall ....
[01:20] <AndyCR> (and yes, I know wep is a joke)
[01:20] <Ronald> maniac: did you follow some guide to  run beryl ?
[01:20] <jabbe1> eck: so if i didn't have the files open, they're gone?
[01:21] <vega-> mikers: /media /mnt
[01:21] <eck> jabbe1: pretty much
[01:21] <mikere> AndyCR: good deal
[01:21] <jabbe1> eck: jesus
[01:21] <jabbe1> eck: back to windows
[01:21] <maniac> Nope. Did it all myself (the hard way). Installed ubuntu, nvidia drivers and linux mce. All works 100% just mythtv wont work.
[01:21] <jabbe1> eck: well, do you know of a filesystem that doesn't do that?
[01:21] <jabbe1> eck: aside from fat
[01:22] <luisgmarine> Do you guys recommend adding extra repos?
[01:22] <mikere> vega-: hmm.. my external fat32 drive just shows up in /media/EXTERNAL when I hook it up (6.10)
[01:22] <Ronald> maniac: then you prolly don't havr xgl, but then i'm very puizzlrd as to why you have no dri
[01:22] <luisgmarine> will it make my system completely unsafe or is it good to go?
[01:22] <AngryElf> I've noticed that digg.com renders particuarly slowly since i've moved to Feisty BETA/Final -- has anybody else noticed this?
[01:22] <haru> luisgmarine, navigate what?
[01:22] <luisgmarine> haru: , nvm I'm just retarted
[01:22] <eck> jabbe1: not that i know of... i know there has been some talk of making it easier to recover deleted files for ext4, i'm not sure if that is actually going to fall through though
[01:22] <vega-> mikere: what is the command to list HD
[01:22] <eck> jabbe1: fat is the only filesystem that i know of that makes it easy to recover deleted files
[01:23] <jabbe1> eck: can ubuntu boot off a fat partition?
[01:23] <eck> jabbe1: well, i guess ext2
[01:23] <mkquist> vega - fdisk -l
[01:23] <eck> jabbe1: you can, but fat has no provisions for unix style permissions so it dosn't work very well
[01:23] <maniac> Ronald: Aahh... xgl is the moving desktop right. If so then no (I'm getting confused with glx)
[01:23] <Ronald> jabbe1: google for ext2 undelete and pray
[01:23] <eck> jabbe1: e.g. every file on the FAT filesystem would have to have the same uid/gid and permission mask because it would have to be set at mount time
[01:23] <Ronald> maniac: xgl is a way to provide the infrastructure for it. nvidia its not needed
[01:23] <eck> Ronald: ext2 undelete doesn't work on ext3
[01:23] <b33r> k3b giving me an error that mp3 lib is missing anyone know how to fix it?
[01:24] <bloodMuffin> is it normal for the memory indicator to note that i am using about 30%, 60% for cache and almost none free?
[01:24] <ubuntuEdgy>  eck: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:24] <Ronald> bloodMuffin: thats totally normal, and goooood
[01:24] <vega-> i can see the drive using fdisk -l but i have to mountit ,how to do that
[01:24] <debaser> hi everyone
[01:24] <jabbe1> eck: wow
[01:24] <LjL> bloodMuffin: yes, it means your kernel is making good use of file caching
[01:24] <jabbe1> eck: well, thanks anyway
[01:24] <debaser> I'm installing ubuntu 7.04 and the mouse is not working, can anyone help me?
[01:24] <jabbe1> gotta go find that win2k cd
[01:24] <eck> jabbe1: you _should_ just be making backups rather than hoping you can undelete files ;-)
[01:25] <mikere> jabbe1: gnome supports a trash bin for undelete if you have deleted from an app that is aware of it
[01:25] <bloodMuffin> i see thanks :) i just moved over from vista and trying to learn as fast as i can
[01:25] <mgardner> hello, I've used linux for a while, mostly on the console, now I have ubuntu.  How the heck do I install a GTK theme?
[01:25] <delire> bloodMuffin: good on you.. a big jump.
[01:25] <Ronald> http://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html claims ext2 and 3
[01:25] <sebas_> gnome-chess shows in 3d for just a second and then returns to 2d, anyone can help?
[01:25] <AndyCR> mgardner: drag the tar.gz file onto the theme manager
[01:25] <maniac> Ronald: See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17326/ --> that might explain what I'm trying to do
[01:25] <Chicory> ndisgtk crashes at start, any indications why?  XD;;
[01:25] <mtonnies> has anyone else had problems with the volume control for ubuntu 7.04, everything is super quiet
[01:25] <AndyCR> or extract to ~/.themes if you prefer the hard way
[01:25] <Anon4017> Hello friends.
[01:26] <mgardner> AndyCR: thanks will give it a try
[01:26] <h4wk0> Right, ive done lspci and i got this result "0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4328 (rev 01)" However ive installed all the drivers coorectly using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399913 as a walk through, any ideas?
[01:26] <eck> Ronald: afaik it won't work on ext3 if journalling is turned on
[01:26] <debaser> Anon4016: hi
[01:26] <vega-> mikere: how to mount the drive its /dev/hdc
[01:26] <Zenjin> Ok
[01:26] <eck> maybe if it is not enabled
[01:26] <Zenjin> Now I need a bit of help.
[01:26] <AndyCR> mgardner: np, note that you have to drag it over the main theme window, the window where you select the various components of the theme wont work
[01:26] <Chicory> Has anyone else had problems with ndiswrapper lately?
[01:26] <Zenjin> Im trying to get my wireless card working.
[01:26] <Chicory> It was a plain before, but now I can't even get ndisgtk to work right -- it crashes at start.
[01:26] <mikere> vega-: you could try 'mount /dev/hdc /media/mydrive
[01:26] <debaser> anyone can help me
[01:26] <bloodMuffin> /afk
[01:26] <debaser> ?
[01:26] <Chicory> *pain, plain, whatever.
[01:26] <Ronald> maniac: fraid i cannot help you :(
[01:26] <bloodMuffin> ...
[01:27] <mzaza> Guys, I can hear my voice from my internal mic through the speakers. But it doesn't work while recording, any ideas?
[01:27] <vega-> mikere: do i have to do that every time i reboot the box?
[01:27] <mikere> vega-: or you might have to 'man mount' to find specifics - or ask channel in general =)
[01:27] <mgardner> AndyCR: do you have to keep the tar file around once you've dragged it or can you nuke that file
[01:27] <delire> vega-: first make a directory called (say) /media/windows like so 'sudo mkdir /media/windows' and then 'sudo mount /dev/hda3 -t vfat /meda/windows'
[01:27] <Zenjin> Sorry phone.
[01:27] <Zenjin> Ok I have a wireless card..
[01:27] <Chicory> Oh!
[01:27] <Zenjin> Ehome 102
[01:27] <Chicory> Yes!
[01:27] <mikere> vega-: no - if you set it up in um.... some file or other (something that ends in tab - mtab?)
[01:27] <delire> vega-: /etc/fstab
[01:27] <TSCHAK> hello, I installed beryl, and my firefox windows are now black, help!
[01:28] <maniac> Ronald: Thanks for trying. Do you know what else I can try to get Driect Rendering to work?
[01:28] <Chicory> I'm getting invalid driver warnings for no good reason from ndiswrapper.
[01:28] <Zenjin> I have an Ehome102 wireless card and I am trying to get it to work.
[01:28] <delire> vega-: you can add a line in there that will enable you to mount it each boot.
[01:28] <vega-> delire:
[01:28] <vega-> thanks
[01:28] <Chicory> The .ini file (rt73.ini) is in the same directory as .sys and the ... oh, the other one ...
[01:28] <Ronald> maniac: if i did i'd try them with you :)
[01:28] <debaser> anyone can help me?
[01:28] <Zenjin> :-P
[01:28] <Chicory> But ndiswrapper claims that rt73 is an invalid driver.
[01:28] <maniac> Ronald: lol. Thanks again!
[01:28] <delire> vega-: it may seem a bit confusing now, but it'll make sense later.
[01:28] <eck> delire: it's just a plain text file, ubuntu ships with lots of editors for that :-)
[01:28] <Chicory> It worked LAST time, so ...
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> !someone | debaser
[01:28] <ubotu> debaser: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:28] <Zenjin> If anyone has time to help Query please.
[01:29] <mtonnies> is there some kind of volume control beyond the applet on the top panel
[01:29] <debaser> ok
[01:29] <mgardner> AndyCR: are metacity themes handled the same way?
[01:29] <h4wk0> !wireless
[01:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:29] <Zenjin> When anyones free I can use some help, thanks
[01:29] <debaser> I'm trying to install ubuntu and the mouse is not working in live cd
[01:29] <vega-> delire: hope that :)
[01:29] <AndyCR> mgardner: yes, and icon themes too
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> debaser: is it a USB mouse, or a PS/2?
[01:29] <bloodMuffin> TSCHAK: i had a lot of problems with beryl too, but when i used the simple options and changed it to lowest setting and made other settings manually it works
[01:29] <debaser> PS/2
[01:29] <delire> eck: tell that to newbies adding disks to celebrate their expansion into Linux.
[01:30] <mikere> vega-:  for example my /etc/mtab has a line to automount the external drive: /dev/sda1 /media/External vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[01:30] <bintrue|work> this poor poort channel.... it's flooded with questions :(
[01:30] <Zenjin> Anyone free to help?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> debaser: i'm sure others here have had other experiences, but personally, i've never gotten a PS2 mouse to wrk under any version of linux.
[01:30] <Ronald> TSCHAK: pronbably running out of video ram. nvidia driver bug
[01:30] <Zenjin> I know its a rough day on the Ubuntu
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> debaser: don't know if its the motherboards ive used, or what.
[01:30] <Zenjin> Mine is more urgent hehe cus I partioned my windows.
[01:30] <Zenjin> And its fked.
[01:30] <Zenjin> I only have Linux.
[01:30] <debaser> IndyGunFreak: it's connected to the port in the back of the computer, I had the same problem with archlinux, and 'sudo cat /dev/psaux' and /dev/input/mice doesn't work
[01:30] <mgardner> AndyCR: awesome.  It was so easy I thought it had to be more difficult!  Thanks
[01:30] <mikere> vega-: however I didn't have to set this up myself - Ubuntu just detected the drive and set mtab up for me.
[01:30] <Zenjin> Who is free?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> debaser: thats my point.
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> debaser: i've never had luck with PS2 mice on Linux..., ever
[01:31] <vega-> mikere: is it fat 32?
[01:31] <bintrue|work> Zenjin: as someone said earlier: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:31] <Zenjin> WEll I did it by the book
[01:31] <wastrel> i've used plenty of ps/2 mice on lunix
[01:31] <debaser> IndyGunFreak: it's strange, it should work, it works in windows and it worked in ubuntu 6.10
[01:31] <Zenjin> Bintrue
[01:31] <icf7> Zenjin: Nobody "is free", just ask your question or nobody will answer
[01:31] <debaser> wastrel: so have I
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> wastrel: not saying it isn't possible, i just never have been able to get them to work.
[01:31] <linxeh> IndyGunFreak: I've been using ps2 mice for about 11 years with linux now - some motherboards need you to have a PS2 keyboard plugged in for them to work though
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> linxeh: can you read?...
[01:31] <delire> vega-: fat32 takes the filesystem flag 'vfat' in /etc/fstab
[01:31] <caner> could someone please help me with my compilation problem with spca5xx driver (a driver thing for webcams)???
[01:32] <Zenjin> I used Ndiswrapper like it said on Ubuntu firums but it says its invalid driver files..
[01:32] <caner> make doesnt work
[01:32] <linxeh> sigh
[01:32] <vega-> delire: mm ok
[01:32] <wil> need help changing screen resolution
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't tell him it couldn't work, it should work, i just told him i've never had luck with them.
[01:32] <linxeh> IndyGunFreak: I was giving you some background as to why PS2 mice dont work sometimes...
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> i even noted above, that most likely, a lot of people have gotten them to work.
[01:32] <mtonnies> being new to linux and ubuntu, is there some channel that helps out beginners
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> linxeh: i don't need background on it.
[01:33] <eck> delire: i'm not sure that it would be that simple to make a gui editor anyway; the mounting options are nearly all FS specific, and for most filesystems there are a lot of options too. putting all that into a gui wouldn't necessarily make it easy
[01:33] <linxeh> whatever
[01:33] <Elazar> Aw! Did they take out the LAMP server install option in Ubuntu Server Feisty Fawn?
[01:33] <eck> delire: as it stands the gnome automount is pretty good
[01:33] <delire> vega-: i don't have Windows so i can't show you a line as an example. here's a really good page: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[01:33] <linxeh> it's a good job there aren't any new linux / ubuntu users. they might get the impression that the linux community is right up its own backside
[01:33] <debaser> that mouse works plugged to my computer
[01:33] <wil> YO I NEED HELP PLEASE
[01:33] <scott__> so i just stuck in a dvd, and all the people have a strange blue hue.  Any ideas?
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> linxeh: if they get that impression, then like you, they didn't read what i said.
[01:34] <vega-> delire: ok got it working :)
[01:34] <mikere> vega-: yes it is - but delire is correct - you need to set up fstab not mtab - mtab keeps track of currently mounted, fstab keeps track of what to mount
[01:34] <chickfila> hello i have laptop here installed with ubuntu and it's connected wirelessly to a router.  how can i share this internet connection (laptop) to a desktop computer through ethernet
[01:34] <crabgrass> scott__: they're depressed?
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> they jumped on one item, and talked out of their rear.
[01:34] <caner> why can command "make" give lots of errors??
[01:34] <scott__> haha, id be depressed if my skin was blue too
[01:34] <crabgrass> Hey, guys, I'm going to install 7.04 on two drivies, and I'd like to know the best way to format a drive using the livecd without installing to that drive, preferably just making the drive blank (I plan on using it as holding space to transfer files between installs).
[01:34] <eck> caner: if you are missing lots of devlibraries
[01:34] <vega-> mikere: got it working thanks
[01:34] <delire> eck: it's relatively trivial to detect a filesystem. there's no reason why the output of fdisk couldn't be passed to an 'editor' that will allow people to 'enable' a detected FS.
[01:34] <ryancr> is it possible to use the ati/radeon drivers to get compiz on dual monitors?
[01:34] <wil> damnit i need friggin help
[01:34] <mikere> vega-: woohoo - what did you do to fix?
[01:34] <caner> hey eck do you mean build essentials?
[01:34] <delire> vega-: cool!
[01:34] <mjr> ryancr, yes
[01:35] <debaser> wil: what's the problem?
[01:35] <caner> i have downloaded them all
[01:35] <linxeh> IndyGunFreak: I rejoined the channel after an outage. I replied to you saying "i've never had luck with PS2 mice on Linux..., ever". My apologies for getting it wrong
[01:35] <vega-> mikere: i formate the hd using systemrescue
[01:35] <eck> caner: if the program comes with a autoconf script you can run ./configure to make sure that the make command won't fail
[01:35] <wil> debaser: i need help changing my screen resolution
[01:35] <mjr> ryancr, however it will be a bit funky if your total resolution exceeds wasit 2048 pixels in any direction. Oh, and may be less for <9300 radeons.
[01:35] <vega-> mikere: and rebooted ubuntu
[01:35] <caner> eck thanks i will have a look at it
[01:35] <debaser> wil: you must edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:35] <mikere> vega-: was there a problem with the drive then?
[01:35] <ryancr> i have a 9200
[01:35] <debaser> linxeh: can you help me?
[01:36] <wil> debaser: what must i change in it
[01:36] <vega-> mikere: its a new drive
[01:36] <linxeh> debaser: what is the problem?
[01:36] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[01:36] <ryancr> mjr: i have a 9200 pro using the rv280 chip
[01:36] <mjr> ryancr, righto. Well, you can try it. It's just that it won't support larger desktop background or windows than your card supports textures
[01:36] <debaser> linxeh: i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.04 and the mouse is not working (PS/2)
[01:36] <b33r> Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library. that's what I get when i run k3b from where I can install that lib?
[01:36] <Chicory> Does anyone else use a WUSB54GC or thereabouts?
[01:36] <linxeh> debaser: ok - was it plugged in when you booted the machine ?
[01:36] <Chicory> There seems to be something of a problem with the rt73.ini files.
[01:36] <debaser> linxeh: yes
[01:36] <debaser> wil: wait a minute
[01:36] <caner> hey  eck the program doesnt have a autoconff script what would you advice for now?
[01:37] <Zenjin> Anyone willing to help: I did my research before I came here. I used Ndis wrapper and followed what it said but when I did Ndiswrapper -l it said the drivers were invalid. Im going off of what it said on here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305983
[01:37] <linxeh> debaser: ok, and when you powered the machine on ?
[01:37] <wil> debaser: okay
[01:37] <ryancr> mjr, ah ok well i am running dual 19"s at 1280x1024 so we will see
[01:37] <mjr> ryancr, also, the 9250 has a limit of 2560x2560 of rendering area... Luckily you fall into that limit.
[01:37] <LsBlend> can anyone help me?
[01:37] <LsBlend> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979
[01:37] <debaser> wil: do you know how to open the file and edit it?
[01:37] <eck> caner: you need to look at what libraries the program is using and install them manually
[01:37] <delire> mjr: good to know
[01:37] <debaser> linxeh: yes
[01:37] <mjr> ryancr, umm, 9200, but anyway...
[01:37] <LsBlend> i have the same problem.
[01:37] <wil> debaser: yes
[01:37] <wil> edbaser: i think
[01:37] <TSCHAK> bloodMuffin, how do i turn everything off?
[01:37] <vega-> mikere: now root can access the drive only?
[01:37] <wil> debaser: i think
[01:37] <ryancr> mjr: do you happen to know of any links/examples of the setup?
[01:38] <Zenjin> Can anyone help me?
[01:38] <linxeh> hmmm - I only have a testflight feisty iso at the moment
[01:38] <mjr> ryancr, well, incidentally I made a small checklist at http://mjr.iki.fi/tmp/xorg-checklist
[01:38] <debaser> wil: anyway, you must execute in a console 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:38] <HOT> anyone know how to enble 3d support in vmware workstation beta 6?
[01:38] <eck> caner: mostly you are looking for the thing pulled in by gcc -I and -l
[01:38] <caner> eck: have you heard about spca5xx which is a driver pack for webcams?
[01:38] <DrBix> Zenjin:  Toss out your question and see if anyone here can help :).
[01:38] <eck> caner: i have not heard of it
[01:38] <mjr> ryancr, I assume you have the dual monitor setup done?
[01:38] <wil> debaser: okay hold on dont go
[01:38] <debaser> wil: you can do it by pressing Alt+F2
[01:38] <delire> vega-: you might want to change 'auto' to 'rw,noauto,user' in that line in /etc/fstab
[01:38] <LsBlend> anybody?
[01:38] <debaser> wil: ok
[01:38] <linxeh> debaser: I need to download the install + alternative isos for work tomorrow anyway, so I might be able to try it out my system here
[01:38] <Zenjin> I did but ill try again.
[01:38] <caner> i have already downloaded gcc
[01:38] <caner> build_essentials i mean
[01:38] <ryancr> mjr: not yet...just finished a fresh install
[01:38] <vega-> delire: ok
[01:39] <LsBlend> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979: have the same problem as the person in this thread.
[01:39] <delire> vega-: that will tell your system to mount the filesystem so it can be accessed by a user. see: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[01:39] <Zenjin> ::I am trying to get my Ehome (EH102) wireless card to work. I used NDis wrapper and did what I was told from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305983...
[01:39] <debaser> linxeh: I don't understand what relationship does that have with me...
[01:39] <delire> vega-: anyway, that should work just fine.
[01:39] <debaser> linxeh: let me try with my mouse, wait a minute pls
[01:39] <Zenjin> Damn this is so full everytime I enter something its paged down :-P
[01:39] <delire> vega-: rw stands for "read write"
[01:39] <caner> hey eck
[01:39] <wil> debaser: okay i am there
[01:39] <mjr> ryancr, well, you can take some hints from mine at http://mjr.iki.fi/tmp/xorg.conf ; I'm running two 1920x1200 monitors with x800. The 1920x1200VGA modeline is just so the one on the VGA cable will sync, ignore that.
[01:39] <haru> whats the command to restart samba ??
[01:39] <Whitor> Figgured it out... it was coming from one of the entries in the third party section of software sources
[01:40] <vega-> delire: ok im changing it now
[01:40] <eck> caner: have you used gcc before?
[01:40] <Chicory> Is anyone else getting this "modules.ndiswrapper : invalid driver!" error?
[01:40] <debaser> wil: go almost to the end of the file to a section called "Screen"
[01:40] <LsBlend> Anybody? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979
[01:40] <DrBix> Zenjin: Sorry, i don't know enough about that to help you :(.  Maybe someone else can.
[01:40] <HOT> the lengths i will go to play dwarf fortress in linux....
[01:40] <caner> if i paste my log after typing make to pastebin  could you have a look please?
[01:40] <caner> eck
[01:40] <wil> debaser: ok
[01:40] <eck> caner: i will try
[01:40] <linxeh> debaser: obviously none. I shall refrain from answering anyone in here again
[01:40] <wil> okay there
[01:40] <wil> debaser: there
[01:40] <DrBix> Zenjin:  The instructions seem fairly clear.
[01:40] <ubuntuEdgy> !seen POVaddct
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen povaddct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <Selenolycus> Does anyone know anything about forced ACPI regarding the Feisty installation CD?
[01:40] <debaser> linxeh: I tried my mouse, and, as I thought, it didn't work at all
[01:41] <LsBlend> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979 HELP!
[01:41] <wil> debaser: now what
[01:41] <debaser> linxeh: I'll try my USB keyboard with PS/2 port in the side
[01:41] <Zenjin> Im trying to get my Ehome (EH102) Wireless Network Card to work... I followed the Ubuntu help last night. I used Ndiswrapper and moved the driver files from my Ehome CD to desktop. It says the drivers are invalid.
[01:41] <ubuntuEdgy> !seen POVaddict
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen povaddict - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <debaser> wil: pastebin the section pls
[01:41] <Selenolycus> I get errors regarding ACPI when first booting the CD, and I get tty access errors.
[01:41] <caner> eck: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17329/
[01:41] <ahave> could someone point me in the right direction for mounting a ntfs drive over a network?
[01:41] <ubuntuEdgy> srry about this guys
[01:41] <linxeh> debaser: make sure you powercycle the machine though
[01:41] <ryancr> mjr: thanks i will look at that..just out of curiousity what do you mean by sync? the reason i ask is my two lcd monitors look a bit different shade for each other...i assume its cuz one is on the vga and the other on the dvi port(with a dvi->vga adapter)
[01:42] <DrBix> Zenjin:  It says they are invalid when you're using the instructions in the thread you linked to?
[01:42] <debaser> linxeh: what is that, and how do I do that?
[01:42] <vega-> delire: i cant find it in my fstab
[01:42] <Selenolycus> =(
[01:42] <Zenjin> No
[01:42] <LsBlend> Can anyone help me?
[01:42] <LsBlend> what happens to me:
[01:42] <LsBlend> When I reboot, the system freezes after the login. The screen remains blank and a white rectangle box appears on the top left corner, like a terminal window, but empty.
[01:42] <linxeh> debaser: turn the computer off for 10 secs then back on
[01:42] <eck> caner: you haven't installed the kernel headers
[01:42] <WaxyFresh> why is ubuntu bloated with so many packages my system dosent need?like why would the install setup stuff for bluetooth when i dont have bluetooth>?
[01:42] <Zenjin> DRBix: No first I did it from the Ubuntu Wireless help.
[01:42] <wil> debaser: srry what?
[01:42] <debaser> linxeh: I guess I can try that. Anyway it won't work, I'm sure.
[01:42] <DrBix> LsBlend:  When you say freezes, did you try <CTRL><ALT>F1 or <CTRL><ALT>F2?
[01:42] <luisgmarine> what is the ubuntu beryl project channel, I want to know what exactly it is
[01:42] <debaser> !paste > wil
[01:42] <linxeh> WaxyFresh: because most users want it. use the alternative cd if you want to customise the install more
[01:42] <LsBlend> yep.
[01:42] <eck> caner: try installing linux-headers-generic
[01:42] <linxeh> debaser: ok, whatever.
[01:42] <linxeh> debaser: good luck
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak>   debaser: aren't you using the live cd?
[01:42] <caner> eck: should i try synaptic for linux-headers-generic
[01:43] <LsBlend> it works too.
[01:43] <mjr> ryancr, yeah mine are attached like that too... The monitor just wouldn't recognize the usual 1920x1200 mode from the VGA cable, so I had to tweak it a bit.
[01:43] <debaser> linxeh: I had the same problem in archlinux, and I couldn't fix it. thx
[01:43] <caner> eck: i am using 64 bit version
[01:43] <Zenjin> Drbix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305983
[01:43] <DrBix> LsBlend:  Try pressing <CTRL><ALT>F1 while it's booting.  See if you can catch any messages that it might spit out during boot.
[01:43] <wil> debaser: Section "Screen"
[01:43] <wil> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[01:43] <wil> 	Device		"Generic Video Card"
[01:43] <wil> 	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
[01:43] <wil> 	DefaultDepth	24
[01:43] <caner> is it a problem?
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <delire> vega-: what is the fstab line that you have for mounting your windows partition?
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		1
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:43] <eck> caner: well you need the headers for whatever kernel you have
[01:43] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <DrBix> LsBlend:  So, it's working, but X is not?
[01:43] <ubuntuEdgy> !seen PovAddict
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen povaddict - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		4
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:43] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:43] <LsBlend> Yea
[01:43] <debaser> debaser: yes I am, but I'm accessing this channel through my computer
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <debaser> !paste
[01:43] <delire> wil: don't paste here
[01:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:43] <ryancr> mjr:gotcha
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		8
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:43] <caner> eck: allright thank you very much.
[01:43] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:43] <debaser> wil: don't paste here pls
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		15
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:43] <haru> someone please tell me the command to restart samba ??
[01:43] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:43] <debaser> wil: use pastebin service
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		16
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | wil
[01:43] <ubotu> wil: please see above
[01:43] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:43] <Zenjin> Drbix: Basically last night I had no internet so I used the help. It told me to put the driver files on my PC.
[01:43] <wil> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:43] <wil> 		Depth		24
[01:43] <wil> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:44] <debaser> haru: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:44] <WaxyFresh> linxeh, yes i know that most users want it but what im wondering is why ubuntu would install packages for hardware i dont have,it just seems conterproductive
[01:44] <vega-> delire: ican see /media/cdrom and floppy only
[01:44] <wil> 	EndSubSection
[01:44] <bur[n] er> wtf!
[01:44] <Zenjin> Drbix: Then I did the commands and it said invalid drivers.
[01:44] <debaser> wil: don't paste here
[01:44] <bur[n] er> !ops
[01:44] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> wil:  whats wrong with you?
[01:44] <tritium_> /ar wil
[01:44] <wil> debaser, delire, ubotu: srry my bad
[01:44] <Ronald> guys, no use telling over andf over, he pasted it ansd his client is now throttling the info to us :(
[01:44] <DrBix> Zenjin:  How did you get the files on the PC?
[01:44] <HOT> WaxyFresh: you dont "have" to install it, everything can be toggled on and off, its just trying to be helpfull
[01:44] <haru> debaser, thanks .. why is this different for each distro?
[01:44] <ahave> could someone point me in the right direction for mounting a ntfs drive over a network?
[01:44] <DrBix> Zenjin:  Generally, I use a USB drive or something
[01:44] <Zenjin> Drbix: An Ehome CD
[01:44] <abo> what's the command to upgrade to fiesty?
[01:44] <wil> IndyGunFreak: calm down
[01:44] <LjL> !upgrade > abo    (abo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:44] <DrBix> Zenjin:  You sure they are LINUX drivers?
[01:44] <Zenjin> Drbix: But on the site it says to do it from the CD location.
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> wil:  I'm always calm
[01:44] <LsBlend> When i boot, i get an error: Daemon trys to load, but there is a timeout error.
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> thats just annoying
[01:44] <LsBlend> ...i think
[01:44] <Zenjin> Drbix: No its not but someone said using Ndiswrapper I can get windows drivers to work.
[01:45] <DrBix> Zenjin:  Maybe the drviers on the CD are bad
[01:45] <wil> IndyGunFreak: go away
[01:45] <debaser> haru: it depends mainly in INIT and the way it's handled. There's SysVinit, for example, with /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.x directories
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol, no
[01:45] <haru> ohh
[01:45] <DrBix> Zenjin:  Hmm... Well, I'm no expert on that area, sorry.  I'd just try DLing new drivers.  Perhaps they'll work better, or maybe someone else here is more experienced with that card.
[01:45] <debaser> haru: there's also the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.x directories type of init handling
[01:45] <haru> thanks :)
[01:45] <delire> vega-: oh.. so the line you added was removed? can you access the windows partition now?
[01:45] <debaser> haru: ur welcome
[01:46] <LsBlend> When i boot, i get an error: Daemon trys to load, but there is a timeout error. i think
[01:46] <DrBix> Lsblend:  So you can actually login at the console login, just not the Gnome login?
[01:46] <LsBlend> yea, but i get nowhere
[01:46] <progek> Quick question: Is there any advantage of using Koppix over an Ubuntu Live CD as a rescue cd?
[01:46] <DrBix> LsBlend:  Perhaps post the log to the message thread.
[01:46] <Hotkey> Newb still stuck on video files - can't see most avi (divx?), QT, and Real.  Have been thru the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu downloads completed.
[01:46] <debaser> haru: sorry, I made a mistake
[01:46] <Selenolycus> Does ANYONE know anything about Feisty's problem with certain ACPI schemes?
[01:46] <DrBix> Lsblend:  Maybe someone can diagnose it
[01:46] <debaser> haru:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init
[01:46] <vega-> delire: yes but its  read only
[01:46] <debaser> haru:read that pls
[01:46] <haru> okay :)
[01:46] <DrBix> LsBlend:  I think it's /var/log/messages
[01:46] <HOT> progek: in my experience knoppix has more tools for recovery
[01:46] <wil> debaser: ok i pastebin it
[01:47] <debaser> wil: gimme the URL pls
[01:47] <debaser> wil: brb
[01:47] <Dumahen> i have a big problem my pc freezes while mounting root file system what should i do ?
[01:47] <Selenolycus> v_v man this is crap
[01:47] <progek> HOT: thanks, so tools for like burning and whatnot?
[01:47] <fulvioo> Primary partition = ntfs. Secondary (extended) partition = ntfs. Can I wipe primary partition and create / and /home as primaries and keep the extended one with existing ntfs data?
[01:47] <wil> debaser: ok to the brb, but heres the link in the meantime: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17330/
[01:47] <DrBix> Dumahen:  Try to view the /var/log/messages, or, keep pressing <CTRL><ALT>F1 while the computer boots so you can see the messages as it is booting.
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> Selenolycus: what is?
[01:47] <delire> vega-: oh.. well ask around here. i don't know what the issue is. it's 2am here and i have to hit the hay. you'll get there, good luck.
[01:47] <HOT> was thinking more of low level disk recovery and password recovery tools
[01:48] <DrBix> gotta jet, ttyl
[01:48] <Selenolycus> No one knowing anything related to my problem, IndyGunFreak.
[01:48] <HOT> good for getting back into a borked windows or nix box
[01:48] <progek> cool thanks
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> Selenolycus: well, you can't hit a home run everyday.
[01:48] <vega-> delire: ok thanks again
[01:48] <ahave> could someone point me in the right direction for mounting a ntfs drive over a network?
[01:48] <Selenolycus> IndyGunFreak: Or even nick the ball it seems.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> seems.
[01:48] <progek> hotkey: have you tried vlc player?
[01:48] <ryancr> mjr: well the dual monitor part works...but the compiz part not so much
[01:49] <HOT> ahave: smbmount -t ntfs blahblah
[01:49] <debaser> wil: I'm back
[01:49] <Hotkey> progek - nope - advice was to install codecs
[01:49] <fulvioo> ***Primary partition = ntfs. Secondary (extended) partition = ntfs. Can I wipe primary partition and create / and /home as primaries and keep the extended one with existing ntfs data?***
[01:49] <ryancr> mjr: i get about a 4inch strip of nice clean compiz...the rest of the desktop is a big ol glitchy mess
[01:49] <wil> debaser: k
[01:49] <Twigman> vega: you trying to access windows partitions under linux?
[01:49] <ahave> HOT, ty will google submount
[01:49] <ryancr> mjr: so i assume i must be over the limit
[01:49] <wastrel> smbmount
[01:49] <debaser> wil: is your screen running the correct resolution?
[01:49] <HOT> ahave: or if you prefer gui then just select "location" > "network"
[01:49] <caner> how can i download kernel-headers? synaptic doesnt seem to find them (feisty)
[01:50] <HOT> sorry places > location > network
[01:50] <ryancr> mjr: but thanks for the xorg.conf  worked great
[01:50] <wil> debaser: i need it higher
[01:50] <debaser> wil: it's running at 1024x768 isn't it?
[01:50] <wil> debaser: yes
[01:50] <wil> debaser: i need it the next step up
[01:50] <debaser> wil: and how much do you want it to run?
[01:50] <ahave> HOT, using the GUI method.. how do i actually mount it?
[01:51] <caner> can sb pls tell me how can i download kernel-headers? synaptic doesnt seem to find them
[01:51] <wil> debaser: thats the thing, im not sure
[01:51] <ahave> HOT, I am trying to add the drive so that programs on my linux box can see the drive over the network
[01:51] <mjr> ryancr, hmh, yes, sounds like 9200 won't cut it with that resolution maybe. Still, as said, with my x800 also the desktop just ends at x=2048 and on the right there's void as background. This stuff is not prime time for a reason ;/
[01:51] <Hotkey> projec u think thats the best way?
[01:51] <HOT> ahave:so a perm connection? you need to use mount then or smbmount
[01:51] <LeoRochael> I think I'm having a gconf issue
[01:51] <abo> is Feisty stable enough to upgrade to? or you recommand I wait a few days further?
[01:51] <jrib> LeoRochael: why?
[01:51] <debaser> wil: what's your monitor model?
[01:51] <fulvioo> go for it ablyss
[01:52] <HOT> ahave: the gui is just a "one off" connection, altough you can bookmark it
[01:52] <fulvioo> abo
[01:52] <abo> fulvioo
[01:52] <xerebz> in a bash script how can i stall the execution until user input is received?
[01:52] <LeoRochael> jrib: all my preferences seem wrong, none of the windows show up in the window list at the bottom of the screen
[01:52] <Moe|Joe> hey people
[01:52] <ahave> HOT, do you know of a link that i can read up on?
[01:52] <xerebz> like until one presses enter
[01:52] <Hotkey> projek you think thats the best way?
[01:52] <Moe|Joe> can someone help me with using wifi on fiesty?
[01:52] <ryancr> mjr: yeah true enough... ah well maybe ill just have to find a cheap ol nvidia card ;)
[01:52] <LeoRochael> jrib: my fonts look wrong as well
[01:52] <ahave> HOT, I am new to linux
[01:52] <osirisx11> i cant get 3d working on my ati radeon 200m, when i try to install proprietary ati drivers it says it cant find a matching x directory x720..should i downgrade my x?
[01:52] <jrib> xerebz: read   I think, try #bash
[01:52] <HOT> ahave: a simple example of a connection is "smbmount -t ntsf //server/share /mnt/myshare -o username=spongebob,password=squarepants
[01:52] <micahcowan> caner, linux-headers-2.6.20-14. if you have kernel 2.6.20-14 installed. You may also need linux-libc-dev, if you don't have it already.
[01:52] <wil> debaser: i have a viewsonic vx900
[01:52] <crdlb> osirisx11, how are you trying to install it?
[01:52] <debaser> wil: ok, wait a minute pls
[01:53] <ryancr> mjr: thanks again for your help, much appreciated.
[01:53] <HOT> ahave: that may look a bit scarey but if you break it down its very straight forward
[01:53] <LeoRochael> jrib: I think it happened after a crash today, where I had to manually run fsck to recover
[01:53] <wil> debaser: i will brb
[01:53] <mjr> ryancr, yeah sure, glad you got the basic desktop up at least
[01:53] <fulvioo> I mean, go for it abo
[01:53] <debaser> wil: ok
[01:53] <jrib> LeoRochael: why do you think gconf is broken though?
[01:53] <ahave> HOT, what goes inplace of //server/share ?
[01:53] <Moe|Joe> anyone using wifi on fiesty?
[01:53] <caner> micahcowan i am using feisty 64 bit , can i use synaptic to find them
[01:53] <abo> ok ... it's gonna be a long night :)
[01:53] <xerebz> thanks
[01:53] <LeoRochael> jrib: fonts look wrong, icons in the desktop look different, and there are more of them (like trash, and Computer)
[01:53] <osirisx11> crdlb: from the ati website, ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run
[01:54] <crdlb> osirisx11, are you on feisty?
[01:54] <zcat[1] > anybody familiar with orca? I'm trying to do a blind install but orca stops talking whenever I run any admin commands
[01:54] <jrib> LeoRochael: I see, well you probably just need to reconfigure everything
[01:54] <osirisx11> crdlb: yes, fresh install
[01:54] <crdlb> osirisx11, have you tried the restricted manager?
[01:54] <HOT> ahave: lets say the machine you are connecting to is called banana and the shared folder is on c:\fruit the full path would be \\banana\fruit make sense?
[01:54] <LeoRochael> jrib: I tried creating a new user from scratch to see if the problem was contained in my personal configuration, but it also has the same issues
[01:55] <zero88> How do you get the front end of Ethereal to work?????
[01:55] <homeer> hi everyone
[01:55] <osirisx11> crdlb: yes and it installed but i still didnt have any good 3d support
[01:55] <micahcowan> caner, a search for linux headers should give you the packages I mentioned. I think you actually want linux-headers-generic.
[01:55] <jrib> LeoRochael: can you take a screenshot?
[01:55] <LeoRochael> jrib: the fact that the window list applet doesn't show any windows is the worst
[01:55] <miranda82> hello
[01:55] <crdlb> osirisx11, define good.  It didn't work at all? it was slow?
[01:55] <zero88> hi homeer
[01:55] <nemo_home> whooo boy.
[01:55] <osirisx11> crdlb: no 3d support.
[01:55] <jrib> zero88: it's called wireshark now
[01:56] <nemo_home> sooo. I somehow clobbered the xorg.conf in an update
[01:56] <HOT> ahave: the next part \mnt\share says "i want you to mount the directory in the folder /mnt/share" however you may need to make that directory "mkdir /mnt/share"
[01:56] <caner> micahcowan yes i am looking for 64bitgeneric kernel headers but synaptic doesnt seem to find them
[01:56] <zero88> jrib so id want apt to download wireshark?
[01:56] <osirisx11> crdlb: it was just software 3d
[01:56] <jrib> zero88: yes
[01:56] <nemo_home> and I see no evidence of a backup
[01:56] <miranda82> i really need help, i've got some errors with grub, and can't boot , i've tried all i've found in google, all those gentoo wikis, and that stuff... any ideas would be priceless...
[01:56] <zero88> jrib k thanks
[01:56] <LeoRochael> jrib: AH, and none of the window manager shortcuts work (including the screenshot one. invoking it manually now)
[01:56] <nemo_home> when I first installed ubuntu, it did a darn good job of autodetection
[01:56] <elpargo> nemo_home, delete it and run pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that will restabling it
[01:56] <nemo_home> hm
[01:56] <nemo_home> elpargo: sweet. thanks
[01:56] <crdlb> osirisx11, did you follow the suggestions on the BinaryDriverHowTo to fix that?
[01:56] <debaser> miranda82: what's the problem exactly?
[01:56] <jrib> LeoRochael: ruh roh
[01:56] <debaser> wil: are you there?
[01:56] <osirisx11> no
[01:57] <miranda82> debaser: actually, it stucks in: loading... please wait
[01:57] <HOT> ahave: the final part is the username and password you want to connect to the share as so -o username=administrator,password=supersecret
[01:57] <elpargo> miranda82, as much as I like gentoo this is not it, so it's wiki pages may not help you to fix ubuntu
[01:57] <funkja> Is there a way I can see which processes have which open ports?
[01:57] <jrib> !xconfig > nemo_home (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:57] <debaser> linxeh: as I thought: it didn't work at all
[01:57] <osirisx11> crdlb: no
[01:57] <miranda82> elpargo: i said that, because almost all the google results are those..
[01:57] <debaser> miranda82: that means that GRUB was uninstalled surely
[01:57] <wil> debaser: ok im back
[01:57] <debaser> miranda82: let me check pls
[01:57] <nemo_home> jrib: thanks. 'course, isn't just the res. screwed up keyboard and mouse too
[01:57] <xerebz> to add global keyboard shortcuts i have to use gconf-editor right?
[01:57] <elpargo> miranda82, na that's probably your search history trying to figure it out for you :)
[01:58] <elpargo> xerebz, that is one way
[01:58] <xerebz> like to open a file by pressing a key
[01:58] <HOT> ahave: finally :) the start part "-t ntfs" says i want to mount the filetype ntfs, if you wanted FAT you would do "-t fat" or ext3 "-t ext3" hope that makes sense
[01:58] <miranda82> debaser: the error is when grub loads, and i choose the kernel to boot
[01:58] <ticky> hi. does anybody know if it is possible to burn a cd while running ubuntu live?
[01:58] <osirisx11> crdlb: now when i go into restricted drivers it says i dont need restricted drivers :-/ it did when i first installed fiesty
[01:58] <debaser> wil: ok, you want 1280x1024 don't you? that's the optimum resolution
[01:58] <jrib> nemo_home: right, just making sure you got the right command, elpargo accidentally dropped the beginning 'd'
[01:58] <homeer> hey guys, im a novice, i just installed ubuntu, and had to find drivers for my noname wifi pci card. i found a working driver...
[01:58] <homeer> and compiled and "installed" with this line: sudo insmod r8180.ko
[01:58] <Moe|Joe> right, i just looked on the ubuntu website, and it says to do this with my wifi card...
[01:58] <homeer> it works, but everytime i restart, i have to insmod again to activate the driver
[01:58] <LjL> funkja: what about "netstat"? possibly with some options, like "-p"
[01:58] <wil> debaser: sure that will be great
[01:58] <Moe|Joe> "Copy FwRad16.bin from driver CD in to /lib/hotplug/firmware and remove all other firmwares from that directory. Note that filename is case sensitive."
[01:58] <xerebz> i'm looking at the apps/metacity thing and next to command1 it wants the command name
[01:58] <homeer> is there a way to install permanently or create a script that runs the insmod command at startup?
[01:59] <debaser> miranda82: wait a minute, are you prompted to choose a boot option or not even that?
[01:59] <elpargo> oh thanks jrib :)
[01:59] <debaser> wil: ok
[01:59] <xerebz> but i want it to open a file when i press it
[01:59] <miranda82> debaser: i am, yes
[01:59] <Moe|Joe> am i able to do that in live cd mode?
[01:59] <xerebz> is this possible?
[01:59] <elpargo> homeer, what;s insmod?
[01:59] <haru> can someone help me
[01:59] <bimberi> homeer: add it to /etc/modules
[01:59] <elpargo> haru, just ask :)
[01:59] <jrib> xerebz: use gconf-editor like you said
[01:59] <LeoRochael> is there a command where I can do a system integrity check? like have all installed packages check if their binaries are correctly installed?
[01:59] <haru> i cannot browse pcs on my lan over their windows anems
[01:59] <haru> names*
[01:59] <haru> only by ips :(
[01:59] <LeoRochael> I might be missing some important files
[01:59] <elpargo> xerebz, you add a command it can be any command
[01:59] <debaser> wil: you must add "1280x1024" to all the 'Modes' lines before "1024x768"
[01:59] <jrib> xerebz: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      as the command for example
[01:59] <miranda82> elpargo: man isnmod ;)
[01:59] <homeer> bimberi: just drop the .ko file in that directory? cool
[01:59] <ticky> again: does anybody know if it is possible to burn a cd while running ubuntu live?
[02:00] <wil> debaser: ol
[02:00] <miranda82> ticky: i think it is not, unless you got 2 cd drives...
[02:00] <wil> debaser: srry ok
[02:00] <xerebz> what if it's an executable?
[02:00] <debaser> wil: ok
[02:00] <xerebz> like if i want to run a shell script
[02:00] <ticky> miranda82: ;-(
[02:00] <haru> i cannot browse pcs on my lan over their pc names.. but only via ips.. anyone know a solution to this?
[02:00] <jrib> xerebz: then that's your command (give the full path)
[02:00] <John______> yeah you can
[02:00] <John______> as long as you have two drives
[02:00] <bimberi> homeer: no, its a file (although I'm on Ubuntu 6.06) to which you add the name of the module
[02:00] <OuZo> where are the default files for apache2 installed to? thanks
[02:00] <HOT> haru
[02:00] <bimberi> homeer: have a look at the file
[02:00] <elpargo> LeoRochael, if you know what you deleted you can try doing a reinstall from synaptics
[02:00] <jrib> OuZo: /etc/apache2/
[02:01] <John______> can anyone hear me? i'm not sure if i have xchat set up right
[02:01] <xerebz> for example home/xerebz/Programs/run.sh
[02:01] <jrib> OuZo: for configuring
[02:01] <xerebz> ?
[02:01] <bimberi> John______: no :)
[02:01] <micahcowan> John______, yes
[02:01] <micahcowan> bimberi :)_
[02:01] <haru> HOT, ??
[02:01] <HOT> haru: in my experience either you need to point to the correct dns or you need to enable netbios / smb support
[02:01] <wil> debaser: ok i did that
[02:01] <jrib> John______: bimberi is a liar! :)
[02:01] <LeoRochael> elpargo: yes, I figured as much, now I need a way to figure out what was deleted
[02:01] <elpargo> John______, no we can't hear you, althougt you wrote something
[02:01] <wil> debaser: brb again
[02:01] <marcot> Hello, I'm trying to use adobe flash player in amd64 using schroot, but it's segfaulting.
[02:01] <debaser> wil: then you must restart X. X is the program that handles windows and all of that stuff in Unix. But to take X a step higher there are display managers, like GDM, the one you're surely using if you're using ubuntu. To restart X you must restart GDM.
[02:01] <bimberi> jrib: 'sif :)
[02:01] <homeer> bimberi: ah ok will do
[02:01] <debaser> wil: ok
[02:01] <homeer> thx
[02:01] <haru> HOT, i set the dns to the one my windows pc uses
[02:01] <LeoRochael> elpargo: fsck deleted a bunch of stuff that was corrupted, but didn't give me a nice list
[02:01] <xerebz> that seems to not work
[02:01] <marcot> I'm using it with firefox, it's a know problem?
[02:01] <xerebz> says no such file
[02:01] <bimberi> homeer: yw :)
[02:02] <LjL> John______: for starters you could try using a nickname with fewer _'s :P
[02:02] <OuZo> jrib: yes, i need to set the prefix when i build from source, i just used /user/local/apache2 which worked but not its not in the path
[02:02] <haru> HOT, i also added wins to /etc/nsswitch.conf and installed winbind
[02:02] <osirisx11> crdlb: now when i go into restricted drivers it says i dont need restricted drivers :-/ it did when i first installed fiesty
[02:02] <jrib> marcot: just use nspluginwrapper, it's a lot nicer, you can use your 64bit browser with 32 bit flash
[02:02] <micahcowan> marcot, yes :(
[02:02] <sssaa> hello. i need some help please. I'm totally new in kubuntu and i wanted to know if there's anything like Synaptic for KDE
[02:02] <elpargo> LeoRochael, I don;t know a way in debian.
[02:02] <HOT> haru: are all your windows machines on static IP's ?
[02:02] <debaser> miranda82: it doesn't report any errors?
[02:02] <marcot> micahcowan: In Debian it works nice, do you know where is the problem?
[02:02] <kbrosnan> marcot: you need to use a wraper for the 32 bit plugin
[02:02] <jrib> OuZo: I'm not sure I know what your question is
[02:02] <haru> HOT, no ... some are static.. rest are via DHCP
[02:02] <miranda82> debaser: nope, just loading.. that is the weird thing
[02:02] <debaser> sssaa: adept, but synaptics works too
[02:02] <elpargo> LjL, that's an xchat default it just keeps adding
[02:02] <haru> HOT, i also configured samba to act as a wins client..
[02:02] <osirisx11> can anyone help please? now when i go into restricted drivers it says i dont need restricted drivers :-/ it did when i first installed fiesty
[02:03] <marcot> Why isn't nspluginwrapper in universe?
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> elpargo: well, he could try a more unique nckname than.. John
[02:03] <sssaa> debaser: does it works with kde programs too_
[02:03] <wil> debaser: how do i restart gdm
[02:03] <micahcowan> sssaa, you should ask in #kubuntu, they're much more likely to know.
[02:03] <kbrosnan> marcot: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux-amd64.html#nswrapper
[02:03] <debaser> miranda82: that's before loading the prompt or after choosing a kernel?
[02:03] <marcot> But I need the schroot to have video codecs anyway, right?
[02:03] <elpargo> IndyGunFreak, why isn't john unique?
[02:03] <HOT> haru: well this isnt a full solution but for static ips you can make an entry in /etc/hosts for example "192.168.0.1 server server.example"
[02:03] <miranda82> debaser: again, after choosing the kernel ;)
[02:03] <debaser> sssaa: if you want KDE integration use adept
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> elpargo: do you live in America?
[02:03] <LjL> !register > John______    (John______, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:03] <sssaa> debaser : thanks
[02:03] <debaser> wil: you can go to a virtual terminal, login and type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[02:03] <debaser> sssaa: ur welcome
[02:03] <micahcowan> marcot, I think Debian uses the 32-bit browser. But jrib's suggestion sounds hopeful.
[02:03] <haru> HOT, but mosts ips are obtained via dhcp.. any solution for thsoe?
[02:04] <tmske> how can use the command suspend without sudo?
[02:04] <elpargo> IndyGunFreak, do I?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> elpargo: yes, do you live in America
[02:04] <OuZo> jrib: can you please open sysnaptic, type apache2 in, then right click to get the properties, then click on installed files. i just need to know where it puts all the files once its installed. Edgy comes with apache2.0.5, i need to use 2.2.4 - thanks, if its not too much trouble
[02:04] <jrib> marcot: the only thing I can't get without a chroot is sun's java plugin, I use blackdown java's plugin
[02:04] <LeoRochael> elpargo: I'm this close to ask the system to apt-get --reinstall install all packages
[02:04] <debaser> wil: you go to a virtual terminal by typing Alt+Ctrl+F1 for the first virtual console, Alt+Ctrl+F2 for the second one, and so on
[02:04] <HOT> haru: is your router building a DNS table for all the machines on the network?
[02:04] <Flannel> OuZo: packages.ubuntu.com can tell you that, no need to bother jrib
[02:04] <jrib> OuZo: use packages.ubuntu.com, but why do you need to know this if you are compiling your own?
[02:04] <osirisx11> can anyone help please? now when i go into restricted drivers it says i dont need restricted drivers :-/ it did when i first installed fiesty
[02:04] <spork> are there any good guides to ripping dvd's on feisty
[02:05] <haru> HOT, i am not sure how the router works.. seeing as i have to access to the network administration :(
[02:05] <elpargo> IndyGunFreak, depends on your definition of america, anyway that was irony if you didn't catch it. I love to have to explain those.
[02:05] <haru> HOT, tho i think it does that
[02:05] <homeer> bamberi: one more q, should i put in the whole path of the .ko file itself, or just the name of it?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> elpargo: ok... wahatever
[02:05] <OuZo> Flannel: jrib, thanks
[02:05] <LeoRochael> brb...
[02:05] <debaser> miranda82: that's quite strange, there should be an error, there's no splash, is there?
[02:06] <miranda82> debaser: i normally  don't use the splash option, but if i put it, it justs hangs at the beginnning....
[02:06] <HOT> haru: do "sudo ifconfig" and make sure you are on the correct dns
[02:06] <mzaza> I'm using a Rioch MMC and I'm runing fiesty, still my MMC reader doesn't work any ideas???
[02:06] <LeoRochael> got my window list back, after reinstalling gnome-panel
[02:06] <Lars_G> Errr I just gone feisty from edgy
[02:06] <jrib> OuZo: when you said /user/local you meant /usr/local right?
[02:06] <CarlFK> to help someone ID a laptop internal modem: lspci, lsusb, lshw - any others?  (what shows pccards?)
[02:06] <haru> HOT, eth0 inet addr:10.100.90.127  Bcast:10.100.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
[02:06] <haru> 
[02:06] <bimberi> homeer: i'm not sure sorry, try the whole path.  I'm assuming it's not somowhere under /lib/modules?
[02:06] <pedalwrench> -+
[04:18] (nonewmsgs/#ubuntu) yay for feisty
[04:18] (Pelo/#ubuntu) IntangibleLiquid,  err, I don't know much about that,  I know some are in /bin,  and /user/bin
[04:18] (mneptok/#ubuntu) potatopancakes: /join #ubuntu-artwork
[04:18] (potatopancakes/#ubuntu) Thanks Pelo, is it just me or is   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam   broken?
[04:18] (potatopancakes/#ubuntu) ooh, thanks mneptok!
[04:18] <dipu> I changed the fonts ... how do I apply the changes
[04:18] <dipu> ??
[04:18] <nonewmsgs> is there a chanel where everyone sits around talking about how great ubuntu/feisty is
[04:19] <debaser> Pelo: they can be anywhere... but they're almost always in /bin and /usr/bin
[04:19] <Pelo> potatopancakes,    the servers have been overwhelmed by the upgrade process,  a lot of stuff is hard to reach
[04:19] <Pelo> IntangibleLiquid,   this mght help you http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[04:19] <mneptok> Pelo: actually, there are known DC issues ATM
[04:19] <hektik> so like, is the 64bit version gonna be any faster then the 32bit ?
[04:19] <nonewmsgs> hektik for 64bit processors, yes
[04:19] <Pelo> mneptok,  that would explain a lot
[04:19] <mneptok> hektik: it's not
[04:19] <IntangibleLiquid> Pelo: thanks, just forgot about the /usr directory
[04:19] <nonewmsgs> really?>
[04:20] <Pelo> mneptok,  should I kill my upgrade ?
[04:20] <nonewmsgs> ill take his word over mine
[04:20] <MrKeuner> is it possible to have a keyring in gnome that does not ask for a password for certain passwords kept?
[04:20] <potatopancakes> Oh, yeah, suppose it'd be a busy time for the distro. :) Thanks again pelo and mneptok.
[04:20] <mneptok> Pelo: are you dist-upgrading from a mirror?
[04:20] <bimberi> potatopancakes: there's also http://art.ubuntu.com/
[04:20] <steelnub> for some reason my terminals are white...
[04:20] <hektik> so like should i just get the 32bit version so i dont have any problems trying to use 64bit programs
[04:20] <dipu> anyone ... how do I apply the changes I have made to font settings??
[04:20] <Pelo> mneptok,  I' doing the noob style upgrade from the update manager
[04:21] <debaser> dipu: apply? restart?
[04:21] <tieTYT> i'd say 25% of the time i want an app a feature i want is in cvs but not in the version i can get with apt-get.  What are the risks in downloading the source an compiling?
[04:21] <mneptok> hektik: if you have >/= 4GB RAM the 64bit version will be better. for most every other use case i386 is preferable.
[04:21] <Fathefner> what is the kdebuntu
[04:21] <Pelo> dipu,  just click ok at the bottom of the dialog box
[04:21] <mneptok> Pelo: in what country?
[04:21] <debaser> !kubuntu
[04:21] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[04:21] <hektik> k
[04:21] <Pelo> Fathefner,   kubuntu  it uses kde as a window manager
[04:21] <IntangibleLiquid> I love the bot!
[04:21] <kditty> !upgrade
[04:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:21] <shawn34> I'm close to getting remote desktop working for my mother-in-law, i can remote in but i can't see anything, the mouse pointer is an X and the background is balck and white... any help please?
[04:21] <nonewmsgs> oh i do have a question.  i want to make one computer in my network hold all my music and just listen to it from all my other computers in my house. should i get the ubuntu server edition or is there a program
[04:22] <IntangibleLiquid> gotta restart X to see if it works ^ ^
[04:22] <mneptok> nonewmsgs: Ubuntu server + Samba
[04:22] <Fathefner> ok i needed to know how to spell it
[04:22] <Pelo> mneptok,  I'm in Canada ,  I did get disconnected twice today but so far I'm doing ok,  stupidly slow but still downloading
[04:22] <debaser> nonewmsgs: or ntfs
[04:22] <mneptok> Pelo: our mirrors are prettf good right now (i'm in Montreal)
[04:22] <kditty> anyone know a mirror for the ubuntu help sites?
[04:22] <mneptok> *pretty
[04:23] <bimberi> tieTYT: rolling your own is OK.  You are then responsible for updates of course.  Also it's a good idea to use checkinstall so that the software is still managed by dpkg/apt
[04:23] <nonewmsgs> what do you mean or ntfs?
[04:23] <kditty> help.ubuntu.com is hopeless :\
[04:23] <mneptok> Pelo: for future reference, the -alternate CD images have a repo on them allowing you to upgrade from CD
[04:23] <annihilus> hey everyone, im trying to follow this page http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide for installing fglrx drivers, but i get stuck at the command sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r), it tells me that it cant find linux-restricted-modules
[04:24] <annihilus> any ideas?
[04:24] <Pelo> mneptok,  I was already aware of that,  I just thought I'd give this a shot for no good reason,  I expect I'll have to clean install afterward anyway,  I'm never lucky with the upgrades
[04:24] <debaser> nonewmsgs: is an option where you have a complete partition in the network, and can be mounted from other computer, but samba is a better choice if you have another computer with windows
[04:24] <mistone> Trevi: you host that reposotry right?
[04:24] <mistone> or is that someone else
[04:24] <Pelo> annihilus,  did you enable all the repos ?
[04:24] <shawn34> I'm close to getting remote desktop working for my mother-in-law, i can remote in but i can't see anything, the mouse pointer is an X and the background is balck and white... any help please?
[04:25] <annihilus> im running from terminal atm due to an xserver failed to run
[04:25] <debaser> shawn34: how are you doing that?
[04:25] <Pelo> shawn34,  if no wone answers you try checking the forum for a solution
[04:25] <annihilus> Pelo, so i dont know how to from there
[04:25] <Jump86> wow avant window navigator rocks when it's setup properly and working
[04:25] <nonewmsgs> debaser i think i want to go with samba.  wish me luck
[04:25] <dawonn> How can I set sshd to run on startup?
[04:25] <nonewmsgs> !samba
[04:25] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:25] <mneptok> dawonn: it does by default
[04:25] <Pelo> annihilus,   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  or .lst,  uncomment everything
[04:26] <annihilus> Pelo, thanks, ill try that
[04:26] <mistone> anyone today ( it worked fine yesterday wtf..... ) when I run beryl it goes really really slow and I get reapted :  NVRM: failed to allocate vmap() page descriptor table when I do dmesg
[04:26] <mistone> also sometimes a black background flashes
[04:26] <debaser> nonewmsgs: luck!
[04:26] <mistone> D;
[04:27] <Pelo> mistone,  try asking in #beryl or  #ubuntu-effects
[04:27] <debaser> shawn34: how are you trying to do it?
[04:27] <mistone> ok
[04:27] <annihilus> Pelo, what do you mean when you say uncomment everything, i understand what comments are, just seems weird that i should uncomment every line
[04:27] <dawonn> I must have come other issue then, Thanks mneptok
[04:28] <mneptok> i love you, BitTornado. that is all.
[04:28] <oktober> Can anyone help with installing a .run file?
[04:28] <shawn34> debaser, xvnc4viewer, im on kubuntu her laptop is on xubuntu
[04:28] <Pelo> annihilus,  I'm assuming that the extra repositories are commented out,  obviously you donT' wnat to uncomment the explanantions
[04:28] <jengerer> sh ./filename.run
[04:28] <oktober> that's all?
[04:28] <mneptok> oktober: that smells like nVidia's binary driver installer
[04:28] <annihilus> Pelo, ha...thanks
[04:28] <GreenDot> okay, this is getting out of hand...  i changed that setting in xorg.conf, but i wasn't able to use my middle mouse button at all.  it's just sitting there only used for scrolling and not for clicking (ie: to open a link in a new tab in firefox)  i don't know what to do  :\
[04:28] <jengerer> Should do it
[04:28] <debaser> shawn34: wait a minute
[04:28] <oktober> what's the "install" command?
[04:28] <ubuntuEdgy> is there any way to delete a file ,so that it dose not go to the bin but just gets deleted !!
[04:28] <nonewmsgs> how do i decss
[04:28] <annihilus> Pelo, what is the backports repo
[04:29] <darx> hi folks
[04:29] <mneptok> oktober: what are you trying to install?
[04:29] <oktober> Well... I haven't played with the nvidia drivers but I'm trying to install the q4 demo
[04:29] <debaser> shawn34: I use x11vnc here and works just fine
[04:29] <darx> i need a good ide for perl
[04:29] <faby> hello, my broadcom wireless is being a pain, before I installed the actual drivers Ubuntu could figure out I had a wireless card, but now that I did install it, Ubuntu doesn't even recognize my card. :(
[04:29] <shawn34> debaser, it connects, i enter the password and it takes it, but the screen i see is just black and white with a mouse pointer
[04:29] <jengerer> you just need to run the file
[04:29] <darx> any suggestions
[04:29] <oktober> ./ = run
[04:29] <mneptok> oktober: what graphics chipset?
[04:29] <Pelo> annihilus,  I am not sure what the description is ,  I beleive it is a  bit more on the edge regarding stability
[04:29] <debaser> shawn34: a lot of gray and black dots?
[04:29] <bimberi> ubuntuEdgy: rm file
[04:29] <shawn34> yes
[04:29] <oktober> uuuh, old geforce2 nvidia thing
[04:29] <debaser> shawn34: surely you're not starting any window manager
[04:29] <oktober> TI4200 I think haha
[04:29] <debaser> shawn34: yes, that's it
[04:29] <bruenig> !info geany
[04:29] <ubotu> geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1314 kB, installed size 4328 kB
[04:30] <shawn34> debaser, can't i just remote into the current session?
[04:30] <ubuntuEdgy> bimberi: using nautilus
[04:30] <adrian_> ruewan
[04:30] <IntangibleLiquid> what is the best dreamweaver-like app in Ubuntu?
[04:30] <annihilus> Pelo, well after that i am still unbable to find the package
[04:30] <mneptok> oktober: you'll want the nVidia binary drivers before Q4
[04:30] <oktober> ok!
[04:30] <rrittenhouse> crud i cant access the wiki.. can anbody else?
[04:30] <theglace> bimberi: Would you not want to erase the data, and pull a 'dd' type thing rather than just setting it to writeable?
[04:30] <snook353> where can i get a banner for my website?
[04:30] <debaser> shawn34: x11vnc lets you do that, I don't know any other option for an opened session
[04:30] <oktober> I tried to get those running but made a mess awhile back, can you walk me through that?
[04:30] <adrian_> ok, i got my black window on logout problem solved
[04:30] <nonewmsgs> !deCSS
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <annihilus> Pelo, tryin it with the command sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:30] <Pelo> annihilus,  that may just be because of the current server load and the DC problems we were talkinga about earlier
[04:30] <nonewmsgs> !dvd
[04:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:30] <oktober> or is it just on synaptic?
[04:30] <faby> !broadcom
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:31] <adrian_> did anyone here have problems with kde missing the shutdown, restart and hibernate buttons after upgrading to feisty?"
[04:31] <snook353> !banner
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about banner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <annihilus> Pelo, sry im so new to linux in general im lost at what you just said
[04:31] <snook353> !link
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <IntangibleLiquid> !IDE
[04:31] <bimberi> ubuntuEdgy: I just knew you were going to ask that.  Not sure sorry.
[04:31] <bruenig> adrian_, sounds like a beryl/compiz related issue
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <ubuntuEdgy>  bimberi:do i pres "shift" while i press delete
[04:31] <adrian_> i am not using beryl
[04:31] <oktober> mneptok: I'm sorry, but what do I need?
[04:31] <bimberi> theglace: sorry?
[04:31] <bruenig> !info bluefish
[04:31] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[04:31] <faby> are the Ubuntu servers being extra slow right now?
[04:31] <ubuntuEdgy> bimberi:thanks any way
[04:31] <debaser> adrian_: add your user to the proper groups
[04:31] <ubuntuEdgy> :)
[04:31] <Fathefner> kwifimanger question
[04:31] <clos> whats up??
[04:32] <hobbesmaster> faby: from what I've seen, yes
[04:32] <adrian_> hrrrm, how do i do that ?
[04:32] <debaser> faby: yes
[04:32] <Fathefner> how can u tell if ur wifi is connected
[04:32] <faby> ok thanks, worse time too. :(
[04:32] <theglace> bimberi: rm just removes the file from index and sets the physical space to writeable, it doesn't erase iirc.
[04:32] <clos> first time in here.. has anybody got bCharge to work on ubuntu 6 or 7 yet?
[04:32] <debaser> adrian_: login with a user able to do administration and go to system > administration > user and group administration
[04:32] <theglace> bimberi: Or it's Windows that does that.
[04:33] <Pelo> annihilus,  a new versions of ubuntu was realease late last week and a lot of ppl have been upgrading and downloading a lot of files ,  the servers handling that are quite overwhelemed by the demand and there have also been some deconnections problems (which are likely related),   it might be a good idea to try at a later time
[04:33] <adrian_> ok
[04:33] <mneptok> oktober: Feisty?
[04:33] <disasm> I'm confused NetworkManager is taking over my usb devices (mainly in this case a usb joystick) Apr 23 22:32:11 warbird NetworkManager: <debug info>^I[1177381931.804685]  nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_b43_3_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input').
[04:33] <oktober> mneptok: feisty?
[04:33] <mneptok> oktober: which release of Ubuntu?
[04:33] <Pelo> annihilus,  also check your spelling,  make sure you have typed exactly the right command
[04:33] <disasm> with edgy it used to show up as /dev/input/js0
[04:33] <oktober> mneptok: 6.06
[04:33] <Safrole> disasm: I'm having issues with Network Manager
[04:33] <faby> so anybody might telling me why my wireless connection disappeared all of the sudden when I tried to install the drivers? it does not appear in the gnome-network-manager
[04:33] <bimberi> theglace: you're correct. however ubuntuEdgy isn't concerned about that, (s)he just wants to avoid the file going into the Trash (if I've got it right)
[04:33] <theglace> bimberi: Ah, okay. My bad.
[04:33] <annihilus> Pelo, yeah ive ben on ubuntu for about a month now, so this is the first major release ive experienced, thats it expectable
[04:34] <tieTYT> i'd say 25% of the time i want an app a feature i want is in cvs but not in the version i can get with apt-get.  What are the risks in downloading the source and compiling?
[04:34] <bimberi> theglace: np :)
[04:34] <annihilus> Pelo, so waiting it out would be the solution to that?
[04:34] <oktober> mneptok: I find drivers on the nvidia website
[04:34] <disasm> Safrole: I removed it from my feisty laptop since I use wpa_supplicant and it was conflicting, but I assumed with my desktop I wouldn't have any problems with it
[04:34] <dumsie> hello all!
[04:34] <Pelo> annihilus,  it is a possibilty,  but also check your spelling ,  apt-get does not forgive
[04:34] <IntangibleLiquid> is Nvu a good choice for simple web development?
[04:34] <debaser> tieTYT: it could crash your system or present a security hole
[04:34] <debaser> *flaw
[04:34] <mneptok> oktober: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules
[04:34] <Haru> how do i enable IPX on ubuntu ??
[04:34] <lun> Hi, all, I used update-manager -d to upgrade to fiesty fawn long time ago, I'm here just to understand what's the current condition of it. Well, yesterday I did an upgrade of 4xx tools then I'm wondering if FF is released and if I'm using the current version.
[04:35] <debaser> IntangibleLiquid: EMACS!
[04:35] <lun> by current version I mean released version :P
[04:35] <oktober> mneptok: I can't just use the gizmo in the adminstratino tab?
[04:35] <Flannel> lun: it is.  And, if you are up to date in update-manager, then you are.
[04:35] <IntangibleLiquid> debaser: Sori dude! No emacs plz, I need something easy to use and fast to learn!
[04:35] <lun> and also , I just found that the kernel 2.6.20-15 they provided didn't have the SATA support built in(they compiled as Module) this will give problem to people who are using sata hard disk, where can I post so they get to know this and correct it later.
[04:35] <mneptok> oktober: sure. but i'm not trying to typ4e it
[04:35] <tieTYT> debaser: that's all scary stuff.  But i'm also conserned about the 'uninstalling' part
[04:35] <lun> Flannel, thanks, I get it
[04:35] <tieTYT> how do you uninstall something you downloaded from cvs?
[04:35] <oktober> mneptok: it's all good so far.. no updating needed
[04:35] <adrian_> i have root, and the buttons were there up until i upgraded to feisty
[04:35] <oktober> 686?
[04:36] <annihilus> Pelo, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r), sound good?
[04:36] <oktober> mneptok: why do I want the 686 install?
[04:36] <bibek> hi guys do u know how to configure xdm to load kde instead of gnome?
[04:36] <debaser> IntangibleLiquid: nvu is a WYSIWYG editor, good for designing pages, not suitable for programming. you should then use bluefish or quanta (if you use KDE).
[04:36] <shawn34> i have an older laptop on xubuntu feisty, how can i switch to normal ubuntu and get rid of xubuntu all togeather without reinstalling
[04:36] <debaser> IntangibleLiquid: but you should try emacs
[04:36] <clos> as anybody got bCharge working on thier ubuntu box?
[04:36] <dumsie> i have some problems getting my monitor to have a 1280x1024 resolution...
[04:36] <oktober> mneptok: nvidia-glx is already the newest version
[04:36] <Pelo> annihilus,   try this,    type uname -r  and copy the result  , append that at the end ofhte command  as a replacement for $(uname-r)
[04:36] <keddie> Is there a default password with 7.04?
[04:36] <dumsie> i already downloaded the correct drivers for it
[04:37] <mistone> shawn34:  remove the packages you want an do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <oktober> mneptok: but it says it can't find the package linux-restricted-modules
[04:37] <bimberi> keddie: no
[04:37] <LabThug> After upgrading to Feisty, I lost the "switch user" menu option in Kubuntu.  Does anyone in here know how to get it back?
[04:37] <bimberi> !root | keddie
[04:37] <ubotu> keddie: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:37] <mistone> er remove the packages you don't want anymore :P
[04:37] <mneptok> oktober: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[04:37] <clos> i was able to get the program to recognize my blackberry and it says it switches the power level for it, but the blackberry still displays an error...?
[04:37] <debaser> tieTYT: if I'm not wrong, if you want to uninstall you shouldn't delete the directories in which you're building, and then run make uninstall
[04:37] <oktober> mneptok: grep?
[04:37] <mg> Hi, It seems it's a bug, but there's no apache2-ssl-certificate command, I've followed several tutorials, in edgy worked ok
[04:37] <annihilus> Pelo, after running the priot command it first tells me -bash:sbaker command not found (sbaker being my uname)
[04:37] <mneptok> oktober: just paste that command
[04:37] <frozenskunk> Hello-Can anyone provide assistance with getting some keyboard keys working correctly after a Feisty upgrade? (Specific keys: Ctrl, / * - + on numpad)
[04:37] <IntangibleLiquid> debaser: I need a WYSIWYG. I made one mistake with the word 'devel'. I just need something similar to dreamweaver to admin a small website. I notice that there;s no binary package on Nvu so just wonder if some of you have used it before.
[04:37] <oktober> mneptok: alright, stuff comes up
[04:37] <tieTYT> debaser: hm, that sounds like one of those things that's app dependant and I can't count on
[04:38] <oktober> mneptok: driver "kbd".. driver "mouse"
[04:38] <Pelo> annihilus,   sbaker is not your uname, it is your username,    uname is acommand that displays the kernel version
[04:38] <mneptok> oktober: are you usidng the "nv" or "nvidia" driver?
[04:38] <dumsie> IntangibleLiquid: you can try bluefish...
[04:38] <debaser> IntangibleLiquid: I use gentoo, but NVU is THE choice for dreamweaver.
[04:38] <oktober> mneptok: it's a nvidia chipset?
[04:38] <annihilus> Pelo, ha, thanks thats more than likeyl my problem
[04:38] <tieTYT> debaser: aren't there problems like that could uninstall a library that another app uses and break the app i want to keep?  I thought these were all benefits of using the package manager
[04:38] <yetifoot> Hi, I keep reading about how much easier for new users ubuntu is compared to other distros, but can't find any good info on what the actual features are that make this so.  What do people consider these features to be?
[04:38] <debaser> tieTYT: it's your desition.
[04:38] <annihilus> Pelo, sry for being such a noob
[04:38] <oktober> mneptok: I'm not sure what I'm looking for...
[04:38] <Pelo> annihilus,   you're allowed,
[04:39] <Pelo> to be sorry
[04:39] <mneptok> IntangibleLiquid: Amaya or Bluefish. forget nVu, it's dead.
[04:39] <clos> yetifoot - pretty much u put in the disc and it goes..
[04:39] <annihilus> Pelo, :)
[04:39] <bimberi> Pelo: lol
[04:39] <debaser> tieTYT: yes, that's a problem too, but that would appear only if you begin to build your system completely
[04:39] <bernie> hi, my software sources under system>admin wont open, it prompts for password and then doesnt open
[04:39] <IntangibleLiquid> debaser: have you used it on Ubuntu? There's only a package for Ubunu 5
[04:39] <bernie> any ideas
[04:39] <aimes_> yetifoot: for me, it's the community and lots of how-to's
[04:39] <keddie> bimberi: I can use my password for synaptic and other things, but when I try to use the su command it says it's wrong
[04:39] <clos> finds all/most ur drivers and comes preinstalled with most basic stuff u need.. and u could google anything about ubuntu and find it..
[04:39] <debaser> tieTYT: if you have one or two apps the breakage of other apps is not a problem when uninstalling, but you shouldn't use libraries compiled from CVS
[04:40] <mneptok> oktober: Driver = nv/nvidia/vesa ?
[04:40] <linxeh> what are the ubuntu packages for R called ?
[04:40] <bimberi> keddie: use 'sudo',   'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[04:40] <IntangibleLiquid> mneptok: Nvu update is quite..out of date, I can see that!
[04:40] <debaser> IntengibleLiquid: no, I haven't
[04:40] <oktober> mneptok: is this trying to tell me what I'm running or am I looking to install?
[04:40] <theglace> keddie: This is for your own protection. If you cannot figure out how to get root, you likely aren't proficient enough to use it safely.
[04:40] <mneptok> oktober: what you are running now
[04:40] <yamathan_> Huh.
[04:40] <Pelo> annihilus,  if you are replacing uname in the command string with your username that would be a problem   try typing it as is with -$uname-r   and see if it works
[04:40] <mneptok> IntangibleLiquid: nVu as a project is dead
[04:40] <oktober> mneptok: how do I tell that? "nv" is displayed
[04:41] <Flannel> IntangibleLiquid: as of... edgy, I believe, it wasn no longer in ubuntu due to lack of development/package maintainer.
[04:41] <sgtmattbaker> hello I am using azureus to download sabayon and it says it is going to take 6 hours.. I was under the impression that bit torrent would be faster for this sort of thing
[04:41] <mneptok> oktober: then you are using the open nVidia driver, not nvidia-glx
[04:41] <IntangibleLiquid> is there any sync function in Bluefish or Amaya?
[04:41] <debaser> mneptok: I didn't know that ...  :(
[04:41] <oktober> mneptok: okies, so I downloaded the geforce4 latest driver from the website, doe sthat help?
[04:41] <debaser> IntangibleLiquid: you can use Mozilla composer
[04:41] <Pelo> sgtmattbaker, speed might varry over time,  it also depends on th enumber of peers,
[04:41] <annihilus> Pelo, yeah that worked now,  now its now finding the next package xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:41] <ubuntuEdgy> bimberi:correct ,,so what do i do
[04:42] <mneptok> oktober: no. you should install via the package system
[04:42] <Pelo> annihilus,   congradulations
[04:42] <annihilus> Pelo, i mean having trouble finding that pkg
[04:42] <oktober> mneptok: right, ok
[04:42] <theglace> ubuntuEdgy: What's wrong with rm?
[04:42] <bimberi> linxeh: there's r-base and r-gnome (amongst others): "apt-cache search r | grep statistic"
[04:42] <Pelo> annihilus,  having problems how ?
[04:42] <clos> last time.. anybody got bcharge - charge utility for blackberry's to work on their ubuntu 7?? i was pretty sure i read it comes with this installed but i cant get it to work.. i came close manually compiling it on 6.06...
[04:42] <keddie> theglace: Actually I am, but I have been messing around with other flavors that use su instead of sudo, forgot Ubuntu uses sudo
[04:42] <sgtmattbaker> Pelo: are there really that few seeds out there for sabayon?
[04:42] <ubuntuEdgy> theglace: im on the terminal
[04:42] <keddie> bimberi: thx
[04:42] <mneptok> oktober: stand by. ssh'ing to a Dapper test box.
[04:42] <ubuntuEdgy> im using nautilus
[04:42] <theglace> ubuntuEdgy: type "rm filename"
[04:42] <annihilus> Pelo, as in E: Can't find package xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:42] <oktober> mneptok: kks, thanks
[04:43] <debaser> I've just installed 7.04 and PS/2 mouse doesn't work at all, any ideas?
[04:43] <bimberi> ubuntuEdgy: sorry I still don't know (I did have a play).  I was explaining my 'rm' answer to someone
[04:43] <Pelo> sgtmattbaker,  I don'T know this is the ubuntu channel go ask in the sabayon one for alternate means of dl
[04:43] <bimberi> keddie: yw :)
[04:43] <debaser> I think I can reinstall the kernel maybe?
[04:43] <Pelo> annihilus,   check your spelling ,
[04:43] <KalleDK> How do you force a kill of a program.. HellaNZB froze once and sudo kill id didnt work
[04:43] <theglace> ubuntuEdgy: Go to Edit>Preferences>Behaviour in Nautlius
[04:43] <ubuntuEdgy> theglace: ok not usefull when you have 100 files to delete
[04:43] <yetifoot> KalleDK, kill -kill pid
[04:43] <xSUSHix> How do I disable the window zoom box effect when launching a program ? (GNOME)
[04:43] <Pelo> annihilus,   apt-get  update   then try again
[04:43] <linxeh> bimberi: many thanks
[04:44] <KalleDK> Thx yetifoot
[04:44] <bimberi> linxeh: np :)
[04:44] <annihilus> Pelo, spelled right
[04:44] <theglace> ubuntuEdgy: Depends on the situation. However, go to the preferences and you will see that there is an option there.
[04:44] <annihilus> Pelo, always a good check though, :)
[04:44] <ubuntuEdgy> theglace: i just want it for the files i want to delete not permanently.
[04:44] <fatih378> ss
[04:44] <ubuntuEdgy> theglace: ok thx
[04:44] <Hubris2> Anybody good with VNC?
[04:44] <theglace> No problem.
[04:44] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?
[04:44] <debaser> Hubris2: I made it work but in gentoo.
[04:44] <mneptok> oktober: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686
[04:45] <ubuntuEdgy> theglace: in winodws you pres "shift" then deleted the file.
[04:45] <debaser> How do I reinstall the kernel?
[04:45] <minerale> what's the current version? edgy?
[04:45] <Flannel> minerale: 7.04, feisty
[04:45] <ubuntuEdgy> feisty
[04:45] <debaser> *Feisty Fawn
[04:45] <IntangibleLiquid> can I install Amaya via Synaptic?
[04:45] <Pelo> annihilus,  just in case you didn'T catch it the first time     sudo apt-get update ,  adn then try your command again
[04:45] <NuclearM> How would I change the order of OSes in GRUB?
[04:45] <Hubris2> debaser - I had VNC4Server configured to work with display 1, resumable session under Edgy.  I had to stay 1 version back...the latest build had a problem that wouldn't allow connections to work.
[04:46] <fatih378> y
[04:46] <debaser> Hubris2: and what happened?
[04:46] <nonewmsgs> why is ix86 always stated as i386? is a 386 minimum recomended to work and why is x64 stated as athalon? is it optomised for athalons?
[04:46] <oktober> mneptok: alright, so it's installing goodies... linux-image-2...., linux-doc.... and lilo
[04:46] <Pelo> NuclearM,   gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.list   and copy paste gently
[04:46] <linxeh> bimberi: how do I start up r-gnome ?
[04:46] <aznprodigy> hi can some one help me with getting internet to work in ubuntu 7.04 for ps3
[04:46] <aznprodigy> i'm trying to connect through a router from a cable modem
[04:47] <debaser> how do I reinstall the kernel?
[04:47] <oktober> mneptok: all done
[04:47] <oktober> mneptok: restart needed....
[04:47] <Hubris2> debaser: When I upgraded to Feisty....it put in the newest version of vnc4server, which broke it again.  I removed that package, manually reinstalled the older version...and it connects to give me a gnome login prompt - but when I enter a correct userID/pass it beeps and returns to the login...and syslog reports a connection error...transport endpoint not connected.
[04:47] <mneptok> oktober: reboot to the new kernel and modules
[04:47] <bimberi> linxeh: never used it sry.  Hopefully a menu entry is created once you installi t.
[04:47] <bimberi> *install it
[04:47] <annihilus> Pelo, lots of these messages (Err httpL//us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources...Sub-process bzip2 returned error code2)
[04:47] <linxeh> bimberi: not at the moment on kubuntu, but I'll have a look around - ta
[04:47] <theglace> linxeh: Tried searching /usr/*/bin
[04:48] <DanaG> Argh, Amarok keeps crashing.
[04:48] <debaser> Hubris2: I've never have that problem, sorry, i can't help you
[04:48] <theglace> DanaG: What's the error?
[04:48] <Pelo> annihilus,   that sounds like problems with the servers to me,   try again tomorrow
[04:48] <annihilus> Pelo, seems weird that its saying edgy but it is an edgy guide im using, i was just told in a forum that it worked for someone else
[04:48] <DanaG> It's crashing when I pause and resume.
[04:48] <Lam_> what's the max size that the / partition should be if i have a /home/user partition present?
[04:48] <adrian_> this channel is so cool
[04:48] <DanaG> Using a plug device in my .asoundrc.
[04:48] <annihilus> Pelo, also seems weird that at the end it tells me to run apt-get update to fix these problems even though thats the original command
[04:48] <Pelo> annihilus,  intermitent server problems,  they might have been lucky ,
[04:48] <Hubris2> debaser: Hmm.....I'm trying to figure out of there's a config for VNC that would refuse a second login (I'm usually signed in on display 0 when I connect remotely to display 1)
[04:48] <debaser> I've just installed 7.04 and PS/2 mouse doesn't work at all, any ideas?
[04:49] <IntangibleLiquid> Google Earth killed my X :(
[04:49] <Hubris2> debaser: Or...if it's something related to the server bug.  It really sucks connecting to display 0....extremely slow
[04:49] <aznprodigy> how do you make ubuntu auto search for new internet connection
[04:49] <theglace> debaser: Drivers? Checked your X configuration?
[04:49] <yetifoot> debaser, maybe you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <nomasteryoda|w> IntangibleLiquid, i guess your nick is like the "intangibletax" ... can't hold it, can't see it, can't tax it...
[04:49] <theglace> aznprodigy: I suspect that you need to enable the eth0, eth1 etc.
[04:49] <keddie> anyone else having a problem getting to the Ubuntu wiki or help page?
[04:49] <annihilus> Pelo, yeah its just about every third line giving that error so it may be a server thing
[04:49] <Pelo> annihilus,   apt-get update, checks the repost listed in sources.lst and caches the infor for where the packages are located
[04:49] <debaser> Hubris2: maybe you should try another server, I wouldn't use such a buggy software
[04:50] <DanaG> I'm using the medibuntu amarok.
[04:50] <aznprodigy> how do i enable eth0
[04:50] <linxeh> theglace: yeah, all the obvious things. I dont think I specified the packages correctly when I installed, trying again now
[04:50] <Hubris2> debaser: I'll be checking that soon.
[04:50] <oktober> mneptok: restarted, all ready to go
[04:50] <bimberi> keddie: yes (and I should have thought of that before sending you that link sorry)
[04:50] <IntangibleLiquid> how can you remove an app that you installed with Automatix2?
[04:50] <debaser> yetifoot, theglace: no, the X config is alright, not even a sudo cat /dev/psaux works
[04:50] <keddie> bimberi: np :-)
[04:50] <debaser> any ideas?
[04:50] <adrian_> just start automatix2 and click on the installed apps tab
[04:50] <Hubris2> debaser: have you tried doing a reconfig of your Xserver?  Back up your xorg.conf and see if a reconfig detects your mouse
[04:50] <linxeh> theglace: nope, looks liek the package is messed up
[04:51] <ircusr> hi all
[04:51] <Pelo> IntangibleLiquid,  use automatix to remove it or you can possibly also remove it from synaptic, depending on the app
[04:51] <bimberi> IntangibleLiquid: hopefully using synaptic/apt
[04:51] <xSUSHix> How do I disable the zoom box effect when launching or maximizing an app ?
[04:51] <sivel27> good evening all
[04:51] <guacho> hello comunity
 morning!
[04:51] <thefirstdude> how can I add an address bar using thunar
[04:52] <Pelo> xSUSHix,   you would have to ask the ppl in #beryl
[04:52] <debaser> Hubris2: I'm sure I know the correct config, and it doesn't work at all. anyway it should at least work with cat /dev/psaux
[04:52] <ircusr> hello ubuntu fellows!
[04:52] <theglace> Anyone know why a 6.06 install + Oracle + JDeveloper + aptitude based upgrades is causing my net conection to be horribly slow?
[04:52] <debaser> Hubris2: it seems to be a kernel level problem, I couldn't solve it in archlinux so I migrated to ubuntu but now it's the same
[04:52] <debaser> ircusr: hi!
[04:52] <DanaG> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1462:(_snd_pcm_direct_get_slave_ipc_offset) Invalid type 'multi' for slave PCM
[04:52] <ircusr> wassup!
[04:52] <oktober> mneptok: So, I want to now try and get the linux geforce4 drivers w/ snaptic?
[04:53] <Pelo> !slow | theglace   if that is what you are talknig about
[04:53] <ubotu> theglace   if that is what you are talknig about: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[04:53] <DanaG> I want to make .asoundrc do dmix -> upmix -> ladspa
[04:53] <mneptok> oktober: do you know how to edit text files with nano, vi, or some other editor?
[04:53] <theglace> Pelo: No.
[04:53] <DanaG> and ladspa -> plug:surround51:1
[04:53] <oktober> mneptok: nope
[04:53] <theglace> Steam is working at 25.8kb/s
[04:53] <Pelo> theglace,  I don'T know then sorry
[04:53] <mneptok> oktober: open a terminal
[04:53] <theglace> No worries, I phrased the question poorly.
[04:53] <oktober> mneptok: alright
[04:53] <frozenskunk> Can anyone provide assistance with getting some keyboard keys working correctly after a Feisty upgrade? (Specific keys: Ctrl, / * - + on numpad), have gotten the left ctrl key working, but the rest are still dead.
[04:54] <mneptok> oktober: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[04:54] <debaser> maybe a bad kernel compilation?
[04:54] <Hubris2> DanaG - have you figured out how to properly output via SP/DIF?  I'd love to get that working....
[04:54] <Lam_> i have 3 partitions: /, /home, and swap. is it better to place swap on the outer rim or between / and /home ?
[04:54] <DanaG> Hmm, spdif should be a separate device.
[04:54] <oktober> mneptok: nothing happened other than a prompt for a password
[04:54] <DanaG> do aplay -l (lowercase L)
[04:54] <theglace> Lam_ Outer rim. Hard disk is read outside in
 it doesnt matter I guess
[04:54] <mneptok> oktober: supply the password
[04:54] <DanaG> aah, downgrading Amarok fixed the pause==crash issue.
[04:54] <xSUSHix> Pelo Actually I'm talking about the default effect that Ubuntu has.   You know, when you click on a launcher - it makes that zoom box to show you where the app is loading
[04:54] <oktober> mneptok: yeah, and then nothing, just another blank prompt
[04:55] <Lam_> ok thanks
[04:55] <Hubris2> DanaG: It is....and in fact if I choose device 0,1 I can successfully test from the sound config - but none of the apps will output to it....
[04:55] <Pelo> xSUSHix,  oh, I see,  try  looking in  gconf-editor
[04:55] <mneptok> oktober: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:55] <DanaG> You can make it be default in .asoundrc.
[04:55] <lovloss> This is a kubuntu problem i suppose,but since kubuntu has like 1/100th the people who can help me, ill ask here. Im trying to install feisty, but every time it starts up i have to hit f4 and select a resolution or as soon as i start it up, instead of a loading screen i get my monitor going out. The green light on it turns yellow and it sits there, black as night :P Any resolution setting fixes that, but as soon as its done the loadin
[04:55] <oktober> mneptok: opened
[04:55] <nbound> hey im getting a GPG error on the feisty-updates server, and googling has not helped :(
[04:55] <nonewmsgs> it's ironic that only legal dvds won't play out-of-the-box
[04:55] <lovloss> Now why is it so complicated?
[04:55] <natsumey> i need help from someone who have voip phone
[04:55] <marx2k> quick question... is there any way to revert back to the stock /apt.sources list for Edgy?
[04:55] <oktober> mneptok: xorg.conf (/etc/X11) - gedit
[04:55] <xSUSHix> Pelo i swear i saw it in some gui that Ubuntu has
[04:56] <mneptok> oktober: go find "nv" and change it to "nvidia"
[04:56] <DanaG> try setting the card to "spdif"
[04:56] <theglace> nbound: what are you trying to install?
[04:56] <marx2k> Ive tacked on a ton of 3rd party stuff and a lot of them time out
[04:56] <mneptok> oktober: then save and quit gedit
[04:56] <oktober> mneptok: kk
[04:56] <nbound> theglace.... nothing, it cant even get the repo list
[04:56] <Hubris2> DanaG: My concern is....if I can choose that device in various apps (VLC, Beep, mplayer etc) but they either output nothing or else complain the audio device isn't ready....what happens if I make that my default device...rather than standard PCM?
[04:56] <theglace> nbound: Ah. Do you have the proper GPG libs
[04:56] <DanaG> Isn't ready?  Maybe it needs dmix.
[04:56] <aznprodigy> can someone help me setup internet connection on ubuntu 7.04 with ps3
[04:56] <nbound> theglace, ive got the newest
[04:56] <oktober> mneptok: Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] " Driver "nvidia"
[04:57] <DanaG> The Gentoo wiki has good info on ALSA.
[04:57] <nbound> as far as im aware
[04:57] <mneptok> oktober: perfect
[04:57] <mneptok> oktober: was that already there?
[04:57] <DanaG> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix
[04:57] <oktober> mneptok: nope
[04:57] <oktober> mneptok: just "nv"
[04:57] <mneptok> oktober: cool. so change "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:57] <theglace> nbound: Give me a moment to check.
[04:57] <Pelo> xSUSHix,  I have no idea where , sorry
[04:57] <Hubris2> DanaG: Thanks...I'll give that a read
[04:57] <oktober> mneptok: changed...
[04:57] <mneptok> oktober: save and exit
[04:58] <DanaG> ANd there are "related" links.
[04:58] <nbound> theglace, you not goin to beleive this... but now its working :S
[04:58] <oktober> mneptok: yeah, did that when I cut'n pasted :)
[04:58] <Pelo> aznprodigy,  try looking in the forum , lots of help there
[04:58] <lovloss> so nobody knows? :/
[04:58] <toferrado> How do I configure wirless using Ubuntu?
[04:58] <theglace> Okay nbound: use the  --allow-unauthenticated switch
[04:58] <marx2k> has anyone else had issue with NFS connections freezing during transfer and then being a real bitch to fix?
[04:58] <theglace> nbound: lol...just lol.
[04:58] <pilibeen>  I'm having all sorts of issues partitioning during hte install of Feisty....keep getting htis message: "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed."
[04:58] <Hubris2> toferrado: which wireless chipset?
[04:58] <mneptok> oktober: time to restart X. ctl-alt-backspace. see you when you reconnect :)
[04:58] <DanaG> WTF?  Amarok crashed again.
[04:58] <pilibeen> does anybody have an idea why?
[04:59] <oktober> mneptok: can I do that w/o restarting the machine? just log out?
[04:59] <DanaG> It does it whenever the device is busy.
[04:59] <toferrado> Hubris2, don't know :/
[04:59] <mneptok> oktober: ctl-alt-backspace
[04:59] <marx2k> phili: it doesnt tell you why?
[04:59] <Pelo> lovloss,  different ppl have diffrent skills,  try asking at driffrent times of day, or also try the forum
[04:59] <DanaG> Oh yay, CPU just spiked to 72 C.
[04:59] <nbound> theglace, that was officially the strangest problem ever, not the hardest by a long shot, but definately straneg :S
[04:59] <theglace> pilibeen: There could be five hundred reasons why. Be more specific
[04:59] <toferrado> Hubris2, How can I know it?
[04:59] <Hubris2> toferrado: What card/device do you have?  If it's a laptop, look up your specs.  A lot of the Broadcom-based devices give you challenges...
[04:59] <theglace> nbound: Well, now you know. use  --allow-unauthenticated to skip over GPG problems.
[05:00] <mneptok> oktober: wb
[05:00] <oktober> mneptok: and I'm back
[05:00] <lovloss> Pelo: I know, its just that ive been asking a lot , everywhere. I guess i have to use the forums :/
[05:00] <Pelo> later folks
[05:00] <oktober> mneptok: wb?
[05:00] <nbound> theglace, will do in future :)
[05:00] <mneptok> oktober: get a spiffy nVidia splash screen?
[05:00] <Eclipse75> yo
[05:00] <marx2k> Im doing the Distribution Upgrade to Feisty thourgh update manager and it's stuck on 'Fetching File X of Y" in "Preparing the upgrade"
[05:00] <tom_> Anyone know where a Electrical Engineering Student from University of Michigan could find a good job for the summer?
[05:00] <Pelo> lovloss,  I mean search the forum,  chances are there is a post about it already
[05:00] <marx2k> I think it's timining out on an apt source :(
[05:00] <oktober> mneptok: I got a blank boring nothing
[05:00] <oktober> mneptok: and then the normal login
[05:00] <nbound> lovloss, whats the prob?
[05:00] <DanaG> Argh, AGAIN!
[05:00] <mneptok> oktober: that's fine
[05:00] <duelboot> !offtopic |tom_
[05:00] <ubotu> tom_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:01] <mneptok> oktober: where is this Q4 demo? and what files are in there?
[05:01] <Fathefner> how do u put a WEP in kwifimanger
[05:01] <oktober> it's uuuuh
[05:01] <Pelo> later folks
[05:01] <sticazzi> mneptok, I've bought the game for 5 on ebay
[05:01] <pilibeen> theglace: i'm installing xubuntu feisty over my last edgy install.....just trying to have a 32 gb partition mounted on / , and a gig of swap. I tried guided and manual partitioning, both give me the same message
[05:01] <aaroncampbell> If I want to be able to handle java content on the web (like this: https://zend.webex.com/mc0703l/webcomponents/docshow/docshow.do?javaEnable=true&siteurl=zend ) is there a package I can install?  Or do I need to get some sort of installer?
[05:01] <sticazzi> the demo file is on ID's ftp
[05:01] <oktober> mneptok: in my home folder, quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[05:01] <DanaG> I tried Xubuntu and found it unusable.
[05:02] <DanaG> XFCE slaughtered my keyboard,
[05:02] <theglace> pilibeen: Erase the entire thing, and then try formatting?
[05:02] <marx2k> pili: have you tried using the GParted LiveCD?
[05:02] <saviles> exit
[05:02] <theglace> DanaG: It raped my daughter too.
[05:02] <nonewmsgs> why is there so much negativity towards ubuntu online? is it that it's too easy to use so it's not a man-linux?
[05:02] <DanaG> by turning arrow keys and home-pgup-pgdn-end into Japanese Input Method keys.
[05:02] <pilibeen> marx2k: no i havent.....
[05:02] <toferrado> Hubris2, I'm using a laptop. What you mean "look up your specs"?
[05:02] <theglace> DanaG: xorg.conf?
[05:02] <oktober> mneptok: I tried to do "install quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run -d /usr/local/games" and then the same but in a new folder, /usr/local/games/quake4
[05:02] <marx2k> pili: try it out
[05:02] <mneptok> oktober: chmod +x ~/quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run && ~/quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[05:02] <DanaG> Nope. Gnome is fine, KDE is fine, but XFCE is broken.
[05:02] <marx2k> pili: also, are you trying to do it while the drive is mounted, by any chance?
[05:02] <HorizonXP> hey, are the package servers slow for everyone?
[05:02] <duelboot> nonewmsgs, just ignore them...they are just jealous
[05:02] <xelados> dooglus: gparted didn't like me at all and I couldn't resize my /boot partition, so I just went ahead and symlinked so the feisty upgrade would carry on. Now it's going along fine.
[05:03] <Hubris2> toferrado: If you go to your manufacturer website....look up your laptop, it's likely somewhere they'll tell you what kind/model of wireless card could be in it.
[05:03] <theglace> !slow | HorizonXP
[05:03] <ubotu> HorizonXP: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[05:03] <clos> xfce has been broken since 6.04?? whats up with that??
[05:03] <HorizonXP> still?
[05:03] <oktober> mneptok: gawd, these commands are huge... uncompressing it is
[05:03] <HorizonXP> it was last week
[05:03] <Chicory> Huh.
[05:03] <theglace> clos: Developers are paid volunteers.
[05:03] <debaser> I've just installed 7.04 and PS/2 mouse doesn't work at all, any ideas?
[05:03] <theglace> unpaid*
[05:03] <Chicory> Okay, I'm back again -- in bitchx.
[05:03] <clos> your better off installing reg ubuntu and xfce ontop of that
[05:03] <marx2k> hahaha glace
[05:03] <Chicory> So now I'm getting some really weird ndiswrapper.modules error.
[05:03] <xelados> theglace: If they're paid, they're not volunteers. :)
[05:03] <pilibeen> marx2k: maybe that is the problem....it looks like a few drives were automounted. there's a 16G volume, a File System, and Home
[05:03] <marx2k> I was about to ask you what you consider an employee to be, then :)
[05:03] <theglace> marx2k: typos are fun.
[05:03] <toferrado> Hubris2, I did tryed it... No success :/
[05:04] <mneptok> oktober: long commands help me feel like a REALLY BIG TOUGH GUY
[05:04] <theglace> xelados: twas a typo ;-)
[05:04] <oktober> mneptok: baah, I need sudo
[05:04] <Chicory> And it's some sort of a dependency from linux-image-*?
[05:04] <mneptok> or ... something
[05:04] <Hubris2> toferrado: Ok...what kind of laptop do you have?
[05:04] <marx2k> glace: try the gparted LiveCD
[05:04] <mneptok> oktober: chmod +x ~/quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run && sudo ~/quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[05:04] <Chicory> It worked last time, it SAYS that it's installed properly --
[05:04] <gpled> do files in /etc/cron.hourly have to be chmod root:root ?
[05:04] <Chicory> And yet?
[05:04] <oktober> mneptok: it couldn't install because it didn't have permission
[05:04] <theglace> glped: Yes.
[05:04] <Chicory> AND YET IT DOES NOT FUNCTION.  >:E
[05:04] <linxeh> ls
[05:04] <linxeh> oops :)
[05:04] <sticazzi> I'm running edgy + backports w/ a non-standard java setup, a custom X setup and quite a few apache apps w/ postgresql backend. Does it sound safe to upgrade to Fiesty?
[05:04] <oktober> mneptok: "no write permission to /usr/local/games"
[05:04] <Chicory> Does anyone know whyo n earth I'd be lacking modules.ndiswrapper?
[05:04] <toferrado> Hubris2, CCE NLC-C2H4
[05:04] <theglace> gpled: Cron has a user and a global crontab
[05:04] <chowmeined> passwd
[05:05] <chowmeined> xx8m3@jd?
[05:05] <gpled> theglace, so root:gpled would not work?
[05:05] <marx2k> sticazzi: maybe after backing up
[05:05] <mneptok> oktober: sudo ~/quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[05:05] <lovloss> whats this about ubuntu not being able to use radeon x700s???
[05:05] <theglace> gpled: I don't think so.
[05:05] <Fathefner> kwifimanager how do u set the WEP key or how do u connect it
[05:05] <chowmeined> !! oh no
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh no - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Chicory> !rt73
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <marx2k> sticazzi: or, if you remember how you did everything
[05:05] <gpled> theglace, thanks, that explains why it is not working :)
[05:05] <Chicory> !ralink
[05:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:05] <Chicory> Ah.
[05:05] <Hubris2> toferrado: Geez....where did you get that?  I've never heard of CCE as a laptop maker.
[05:05] <chowmeined> Chicory: do you have time to return it?
[05:05] <theglace> gpled: Try making an EMPTY  /usr/lib/cron/cron.allow
[05:05] <Nergar> can sombody help me with my wifi card??
[05:05] <Chicory> Hmm?
[05:05] <chowmeined> Chicory: ndiswrapper is a cheap hack
[05:05] <oktober> mneptok: path in which to create symbolic links: usr/local/bin?
[05:05] <sticazzi> how can I back up everything?
[05:06] <mneptok> oktober: sure
[05:06] <mlocker> this server have oper ?
[05:06] <Chicory> Yes, cheap hack or no, it's a nice one.
[05:06] <chowmeined> Chicory: its much better to use a wireless card with native drivers like atheros
[05:06] <marx2k> !backup
[05:06] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:06] <Chicory> Yes, but this is the one I have.
[05:06] <DanaG> Amarok crashed AGAIN!
[05:06] <FuTuBa> sconnect
[05:06] <Chicory> ... Atheros, you say?
[05:06] <oktober> mneptok: alrighty, installing
[05:06] <marx2k> Amarok crashes all the time for me
[05:06] <oktober> mneptok: if I hate this, how do I kill it? and what's chmod?
[05:06] <sticazzi> marx2k, thanks
[05:06] <debaser> can I compile my own kernel and use it?
[05:06] <Chicory> How ... native are these drivers of which you speak, chowmeined?
[05:06] <aaroncampbell> If I want to be able to handle java content on the web (like this: https://zend.webex.com/mc0703l/webcomponents/docshow/docshow.do?javaEnable=true&siteurl=zend ) is there a package I can install?  Or do I need to get some sort of installer?
[05:06] <gpled> theglace, how about this?  chmod 750 ?
[05:06] <chowmeined> Chicory: yes, I have a proxim orinoco which uses the atheros chipset
[05:06] <mneptok> oktober: remember this excellent service and recommend Canonical Support to all your friends! ;)
[05:07] <chowmeined> Chicory: atheros open sourced them
[05:07] <marx2k> debaser: in general?
[05:07] <Chicory> Huh.
[05:07] <oktober> mneptok: Dude, yeah, thanks!
[05:07] <Chicory> Well, see, supposedly these drivers are open-source.
[05:07] <chowmeined> Chicory: It uses the madwifi drivers
[05:07] <Chicory> The ones from Ralink.
[05:07] <mneptok> chowmeined: when did that happen?
[05:07] <lechinois> hi
[05:07] <Chicory> But, man, dude, I really can't hack very well when it comes to drivers.
[05:07] <chowmeined> mneptok: I dunno, but
[05:07] <joobeom> hi
[05:07] <tom_> Does anyone know what codecs I would need to install to watch streaming wmv from the web?????
[05:07] <debaser> marx2k: what do you mean "in general?", I want to use it with ubuntu, can I?
[05:07] <tom_> Does anyone know what codecs I would need to install to watch streaming wmv from the web????? and how I would go about installing them
[05:07] <marx2k> is there any way to revert the apt.sources list back to the original?
[05:08] <Chicory> tomsku:  There's always 32codecs.
[05:08] <marx2k> debaser: well, you can always compile and run your own kernel
[05:08] <chowmeined> Chicory: But I can do anything with the card cause it lets you put it in monitor mode, and inject packets and even use it as an access point
[05:08] <Chicory> Er, wrong Tom.
[05:08] <Flannel> !easysource | marx2k
[05:08] <ubotu> marx2k: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:08] <marx2k> thanks flannel
[05:08] <theglace> gpled:unsure
[05:08] <Chicory> As an access point?!
[05:08] <Flannel> marx2k: original is main and restricted, that's it.
[05:08] <debaser> marx2k: yes, I can... but is it alright?
[05:08] <Nergar> can anyone help me with my Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [AirForce 54g]  802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver (rev 02) please??? It turns off by itself!!!
[05:08] <marx2k> debaser: people do it all the time
[05:08] <debaser> marx2k: is it safe?
[05:08] <tom_> Chicory, what are 32 codecs
[05:08] <duelboot> marx2k, an easy way is to immediately make a backup copy...that way you can always cp to sources.list and off you go with the original
[05:08] <marx2k> debaser: read the HOWTOs o it.. if you do it right, it's safe
[05:09] <marx2k> duelboot: shouldve told me that a year ago :)
[05:09] <Chicory> !32codecs
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Hubris2> toferrado: Is it a Brazillian brand?
[05:09] <Chicory> Huh.
[05:09] <Flannel> !w32codecs | Chicory
[05:09] <ubotu> Chicory: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:09] <duelboot> marx2k, should have asked me a year ago :)
[05:09] <gpled> theglace, should a python scrit work in /etc/cron.hourly?
[05:09] <Chicory> Ah, I forgot the w.  Thanks, Flannel.
[05:09] <marx2k> hahahah
[05:09] <debaser> marx2k: I've compiled kernel millions of times and I'm actually using a personally compiled kernel system, I just need to know if it's ok to do it in ubuntu 7.04
[05:09] <toferrado> Hubris2, yes
[05:10] <chowmeined> mneptok: http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html
[05:10] <Chicory> tom_, look for w32codecs instructions.
[05:10] <Chicory> They will lead you the way.
[05:10] <chowmeined> Chicory: http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html
[05:10] <marx2k> wait a minute... it looks like the system auto backed up the sources list
[05:10] <Chicory> Thanks, chowmeined.
[05:10] <marx2k> debaser: well why wouldnt it be?
[05:10] <cafuego> Honestly, I don't understand people who bolt asthmatic sounding tubos to their cars.
[05:10] <theglace> gpled: It should.
[05:10] <toferrado> Hubris2, I think its a ralink card...
[05:10] <debaser> marx2k: I don't know, do you know?
[05:10] <Chicory> cafuego, maybe because they want it that way?
[05:10] <gpled> theglace: k, thanks again
[05:10] <theglace> gpled: If you can run it from the command line, crontab can do it.
[05:10] <toferrado> Hubris2, But I don't know the model
[05:10] <theglace> no problem
[05:10] <marx2k> debaser: I do not
[05:10] <duelboot> cafuego, Chicory ... cause they want to be deaf by 30
[05:11] <Chicory> XD
[05:11] <debaser> marx2k: thx
[05:11] <Hubris2> toferrado: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-394414.html
[05:11] <Nergar> nobody has a bcm43xx??? please want to solve this issue!
[05:11] <debaser> bye
[05:11] <Chicory> Or maybe thin-clienting them?
[05:11] <mneptok> oktober: how goes the struggle?
[05:11] <Chicory> Oh well, my parents will end up being Vista zombies come the next upgrade ... :s
[05:11] <gpled> theglace: feels like it is not running. not sure why.  going to try and make a log file so i know for sure if it fires
[05:11] <chowmeined> Chicory: and this is the card I have: http://www.proxim.com/products/cp/pc.html
[05:11] <Chicory> they get so fussy with new OS's.
[05:11] <Chicory> Ooh!  <3
[05:11] <Chicory> Very nice, chowmeined .
[05:12] <coolness9> Hey there, I updated to Fiesty Fawn, and I'm having problems connecting to my router now with a manual configuration. I have to set it to roam now for it to connect correctly
[05:12] <eXcAliBuR> i deleted my /etc/init.d/saslauthd ... how can i get a new one?
[05:12] <coolness9> anybody have any ideas/
[05:12] <Chicory> Eh, I'll be back later.
[05:12] <Chicory> Time to get back to X.
[05:12] <marx2k> heh I like how the Distribution Upgrade applet has no cancel
[05:12] <coolness9> F
[05:13] <mneptok> coolness9: how are you configuring manually?
[05:13] <Doc_Bio> hey I'm trying to get an existing windows workin in linux with VM Player...can someone give me a hand?
[05:13] <Doc_Bio> I'm stuck on one little thing
[05:13] <toferrado> Hubris2, I'll try it!
[05:13] <DanaG> !medibuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:14] <coolness9> mneptok: I am going to the network settings, and configuring the IP and router IP to the correct numbers
[05:14] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: go for it
[05:14] <coolness9> mneptok: and it seems to connect fine, but it only sends packets, and doensn't receive, also I try to ping my router, and it says the host can't be found
[05:14] <Doc_Bio> k...I've followed a tutorial...got it all set up....but when I try to run....it doesn't have permission to access the files or one of the dependencies
[05:15] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: where did you get the or from?
[05:15] <scarter> i've got a notebook with one of those pesky TI SD/MMC media controllers. i've done my research and found the command that makes it function correctly (after i modified it for my location) 'setpci -s 04.3 4c=0x22', now i need to know where to put this so that it is executed on boot. suggestions are welcome...
[05:15] <esac> amarok won't open for me at all
[05:15] <Doc_Bio> http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[05:15] <esac> i click on the amarok icon and nothing .. no crash message, it just doesnt open
[05:15] <Doc_Bio> there.
[05:15] <Bales1> Ever since I upgraded to 7.04, Firefox has been freezing up quite often. Anyone know what might cause this?
[05:15] <mneptok> coolness9: give me the IP address you want, the router address, and netmask
[05:16] <coolness9> 192.168.1.100, 255.255.255.0, 192.168.1.1
[05:16] <Doc_Bio> it looks like the .mbr is root access only
[05:16] <Doc_Bio> it's got a lock emblem on it
[05:16] <coolness9> and it looks like im actually hooked up with those settings right now
[05:16] <coolness9> which I dont get
[05:16] <Nergar> My BCM43xx turns off by itself! how do i solve this?
[05:16] <mneptok> coolness9: type "ifconfig" in a terminal. what iterfaces do you have? (e.g. eth0)
[05:17] <coolness9> ath0
[05:17] <lucky_> anyone know a good guide to get a webcam working in Feisty?
[05:17] <mneptok> coolness9: oho! wireless!
[05:17] <coolness9> yes
[05:17] <mneptok> coolness9: WPA or WEP?
[05:17] <coolness9> wep
[05:17] <mneptok> coolness9: stand by
[05:17] <coolness9> k thanks
[05:18] <Shadow_X> 2 questions
[05:18] <NBrepresent> hi, what is the difference between beryl and desktop effects? i thought that because i had the desktop effects i had beryl, but i did a synaptic search anyway and beryl isn't installed...
[05:18] <duelboot> !ask | Shadow_X
[05:18] <ubotu> Shadow_X: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:18] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: just copy it off to your vm folder and then do "sudo chown -r YOURUSERNAME:users ./
[05:18] <Shadow_X> 1. Does anyone know of an app that can open .cab files from Windows?
[05:18] <Shadow_X> 2. Does anyone know of a good EQ applet for Gnome?
[05:18] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: has to be done while inside the vm folder
[05:18] <pigeonflight> is it worth upgrading from 6.06 LTS server  to 7.04 server?
[05:18] <duelboot> Shadow_X, no help from me sorry :(
[05:18] <Hubris2> Shadow_X: I believe Winrar can
[05:18] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: that will change permissions to be read/write for your user
[05:19] <Shadow_X> ah, but we're discussing Ubuntu lol
[05:19] <Doc_Bio> copy the mbr file to vm directory
[05:19] <NBrepresent> hi, what is the difference between beryl and desktop effects? i thought that because i had the desktop effects i had beryl, but i did a synaptic search anyway and beryl isn't installed...
[05:19] <Aaronfromchina> is there any LaTeX front-end for Gnome (like Kile for KDE)?
[05:19] <bimberi> !info cabextract | Shadow_X
[05:19] <ubotu> shadow_x: cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[05:19] <Shadow_X> Im trying to install Photoshop, and the setup file dies. if I can just extract the cab, I can fix it
[05:19] <Shadow_X> ty
[05:19] <Shadow_X> 2. Does anyone know of a good EQ applet for Gnome?
[05:19] <Doc_Bio> are you abbreviating vmare folder with vm?
[05:20] <Aaronfromchina> is there any LaTeX front-end for Gnome (like Kile for KDE)?
[05:20] <joobeom> hi
[05:20] <gaston_> anyone knows how to use zspoof with wine?
[05:20] <scipio> hello
[05:21] <ajmorris_> how do u open gnome settings through a shell?
[05:21] <Shadow_X> 2. Does anyone know of a good EQ applet for Gnome?
[05:21] <SJrX> How can I upgrade ubuntu to 7.whatever
[05:21] <Aaronfromchina> is there any LaTeX front-end for Gnome (like Kile for KDE)?
[05:22] <theglace> SJrX: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:22] <theglace> Maybe.
[05:22] <SJrX> oh
[05:22] <SJrX> so it is like debian
[05:22] <SJrX> hmmm
[05:22] <arejay> has anyone used aviddemux before?
[05:22] <SJrX> actually I'll be back after the canucks game
[05:22] <theglace> SJrX: Something along those lines.
[05:22] <joobeom> is 7.04 ubuntu good?
[05:22] <eXcAliBuR> i deleted my /etc/init.d/saslauthd ... how can i get a new one?
[05:22] <joobeom> i yet use 5.xx ubuntu.
[05:22] <nonewmsgs> 7.04 rulez
[05:23] <Aaronfromchina> is Kile the best front-end of LaTeX?
[05:23] <Nergar> My BCM43xx turns off by itself! how do i solve this?
[05:23] <HorizonXP> hey
[05:23] <esac> whenever i try to play a song in amarok it doesnt play or causes amarok to hang. any ideas ?
[05:23] <Flannel> joobeom: You should upgrade to 6.06 at least, neither 5.10 nor 5.04 are supported anymore.
[05:23] <duelboot> joobeom, I've noticed it's a bit slower that 6.10, but YMMV...Is it good?  yes
[05:23] <gaston_> joobem ubuntu 7.04
[05:23] <Shadow_X> 2. Does anyone know of a good EQ applet for Gnome?
[05:23] <HorizonXP> i'm having trouble installing VMWare Server 1.0.2 on Feisty
[05:23] <gaston_> is very good
[05:23] <ceeg> joobeom, lots of eye candy built in, some nifty wifi integration, and some windows->ubuntu migration tools.
[05:23] <HorizonXP> it won't compile the vmmon module...
[05:23] <HorizonXP> any ideas?
[05:23] <gaston_> but in my case firefox freezy very much
[05:23] <joobeom> oh.. great..
[05:23] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: sorry for the late response, where ever you have the mbr file
[05:23] <joobeom> i'll upgrage.
[05:23] <linxeh> Aaronfromchina: I use texclipse, but if you dont want the eclipse bloat then Kile seemed pretty good to me
[05:23] <joobeom> thanks..
[05:23] <Snake[Sleep] > Will feisty detect a currently installed vista?
[05:23] <Snake[Sleep] > (grub)
[05:24] <Aaronfromchina> linxeh: thank you. I'll check it out.
[05:24] <esac> Snake[Sleep] , yes, it doesw
[05:24] <mistone> Snake[Sleep] :  yea but I highly recoomend messing with the partiations BEFORE YOU do anything inside vista
[05:24] <J7r41n> anyone know of an dc++ client for ubuntu?
[05:24] <starz> does anyone else here have a problem with the volume on xmms?
[05:24] <Snake[Sleep] > mistone, my partitions are 100% set, I just want to know if I install feisty itll catch vista
[05:25] <starz> when i adjust mine it doesnt actually change the volume at all
[05:25] <ceeg> starz, is it too low or something?
[05:25] <Aaronfromchina> linxeh: does texclipse have "preview" function?
[05:25] <dresden> does anyone know why ubuntu would hang at "Will now restart" when i try to reboot?
[05:25] <linxeh> Aaronfromchina: you need to install eclipse, a complete IDE, for texlipse, so it probably isnt worth it for you. However, if you do install it, get the latest release from sourceforge and not the ubuntu repos
[05:25] <ceeg> starz, type alsamixer in a terminal and increase the master and PCM levels
[05:25] <nonewmsgs> a lot of add/remove programs say "integrates well into ubuntu desktop envirement" what does it mean if it doesnt have that?
[05:25] <bernie> hi, i am getting an error "could not import pango" when i try to access softwaresources-gtk
[05:25] <mistone> Snake[Sleep] : aslong as you don't mess with the partations at all in the setup you are gold :D
[05:25] <linxeh> Aaronfromchina: yes - it fires up either a dvi or pdf viewer of your choice
[05:25] <starz> ceeg all levels are full
[05:25] <Snake[Sleep] > wonderful
[05:25] <esac> i have xine installed and it seems to be having issues. what is an alternative to xine ?
[05:25] <starz> things play just fine
[05:25] <bernie> vlc
[05:25] <starz> i just cant adjust the volume from xmms - even tried to change the aud driver it uses from alsa to oss
[05:25] <Aaronfromchina> linxeh: sounds cool. That's what I want. :) Cheers.
[05:26] <bernie> hi, i am getting an error "could not import pango" when i try to access softwaresources-gtk
[05:26] <linxeh> Aaronfromchina: kile has that too though iirc
[05:26] <Hubris2> esac - I like VLC for video
[05:26] <starz> see in the past its been tied into the master pcm and in feisty they changed how alsa worx or something
[05:26] <ceeg> starz, try a different media player to see if the issue is xmms only
[05:26] <Doc_Bio> ravi...type that command again please...getting "invalid option" error
[05:26] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me here with video clips
[05:26] <starz> ceeg it is just xmms
[05:26] <nonewmsgs> yes  wheels
[05:26] <starz> now i compiled that same kernel for edgy and had the same problems with it
[05:26] <starz> so i'm guessing its a kernel driver problem or change somehow
[05:27] <nonewmsgs> wheels you probably need xine extra plugins
[05:27] <wheels3572> nonewmsgs, Im trying to click on a video link on cnn.com and have it show the video but it wont play the video for me at all
[05:27] <Doc_Bio> ravi??
[05:27] <HorizonXP> can anyone help me with VMWare Server installation?
[05:27] <starz> !restricted codecs
[05:27] <J7r41n> anyone know of an dc++ client for ubuntu?
[05:27] <starz> there u go wheels3572
[05:27] <burner> HorizonXP, it doesn't work on feisty.
[05:27] <starz> er
[05:27] <ravi_master> sudo chown -R USERNAME:users DIRECTORY
[05:27] <starz> no bot?
[05:27] <dresden> in case no one saw this: does anyone know why ubuntu would hang at "Will now restart" when i try to reboot?
[05:27] <starz> !nvidia
[05:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <nonewmsgs> wheels thats flash right?
[05:27] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: sorry bout late responses
[05:27] <starz> !restricted codecs
[05:28] <J7r41n> maybe thats not the right command
[05:28] <burner> HorizonXP, until they release a new version... might I suggest VirtualBox?  networking isn't as friendly as with VMWare, but it works
[05:28] <HorizonXP> burner: well that's just great.... but i swear i've seen some blogs saying they have
[05:28] <starz> J7r41n there is one
[05:28] <J7r41n> i have no idea
[05:28] <lucky_> !webcam
[05:28] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:28] <wheels3572> nonewmsgs, no it's saying it's windows media player
[05:28] <J7r41n> !codec
[05:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <ceeg> J7r41n, dcgui
[05:28] <Nergar> My BCM43xx turns off by itself! how do i solve this?
[05:28] <J7r41n> thanks
[05:28] <GuHHH> hello
[05:28] <kryptik> hello'
[05:28] <burner> HorizonXP, with feisty?  i remember reading that vmware doesn't work on the 2.6.20 kernel... and it didnt' work when feisty was beta... maybe a new vmware is out
[05:28] <nonewmsgs> wheels heh.  i cant see them eithert
[05:29] <jason0_> Anyone know if beryl + firefox popups has issues?
[05:29] <nonewmsgs> i guess we'll both learn how to then
[05:29] <GuHHH> unbelievable. i finally loaded the xserver ;)
[05:29] <jason0_> It seems to be drawing w/ no window boarder when a pop opens.
[05:29] <makoto> hey, what is the best way to install nVidia drivers?
[05:29] <starz> so any ideas over there ceeg ?
[05:29] <HorizonXP> burner: i'm not sure... but i've definitely seen a couple
[05:29] <Doc_Bio> I guess that wasn't the problem ravi
[05:29] <starz> makoto try the repo first then as last resort install from nvidia binary via wiki instructions
[05:30] <Bales1> Ever since I upgraded to 7.04, Firefox has been freezing up quite often. Anyone know what might cause this?
[05:30] <Nergar> makoto, System > Administration > Restricted drivers manager
[05:30] <nonewmsgs> wheels nebvermind i see it now.  did you click go to video anyway
[05:30] <kryptik> my beryl settings manger doesnt show up...any help
[05:30] <starz> !nvidia > makoto
[05:30] <Ninja_Gaiden> Hi all.
[05:30] <makoto> well starz and nergar last time i tried that, the system kept freezing up
[05:30] <Ninja_Gaiden> Where are the logs when the computer SUSPENDS?
[05:30] <starz> makoto tried the repo drivers and it froze?
[05:31] <Doc_Bio> Cannot open the disk '/home/ireland/windows.vmdk' or one of the snapshot disks it depends on.
[05:31] <Doc_Bio> Reason: Insufficient permission to access file.
[05:31] <starz> could you make it work with nv instead of nvidia drivers?
[05:31] <makoto> yeah, beryl would freeze up, and my cedega games would freeze
[05:31] <Doc_Bio> that's the error I get when I try to run the vmware player file
[05:31] <Nergar> try not using beryl and gaming when installing a driver
[05:31] <starz> then follow wiki instructions on how to install from nvidia's binary
[05:31] <Ninja_Gaiden> Anybody the logs for when the laptop SUSPENDS???
[05:31] <axiom> i'm having a problem where any kde application that needs to access the network isn't able to, because it says "dcopserver" isn't running. any idea why dcopserver isnt running?
[05:31] <xXSive> what is the command for starting bittorrent?  I just installed a gui for it but don't see a launcher
[05:32] <Nergar> is there any ubuntu-wifi channel or something???
[05:32] <GuHHH> hey, anyone knows the debian equivalent to xorg-driver-fglrx?
[05:32] <kryptik> can anybody help me with my Beryl Settings Manger not working ?
[05:32] <scotty21> anyone know where alsaconf is?
[05:32] <makoto> no, no Nergar, it would happen when i tried to take advantage of the driver (as in using beryl or playing a game)
[05:32] <dresden> in case no one saw this: does anyone know why ubuntu would hang at "Will now restart" when i try to reboot?
[05:32] <scarter> i've got a notebook with one of those pesky TI SD/MMC media controllers [104c:8033] . i've done my research and found the command that makes it function correctly (after i modified it for my location) 'setpci -s 04.3 4c=0x22', now i need to know where to put this so that it is executed on boot. suggestions are welcome...
[05:32] <Shrimpy_> how do you turn on the control center for feisty
[05:32] <xXSive> (need to seed back) I know how to start it when I'm dl'ing
[05:32] <starz> btdownloadgui i think is what you want there xXSive
[05:32] <ravi_master> so did you replace DIRECTORY with chmod -R USERNAME:user /home/ireland/
[05:32] <Ninja_Gaiden> dresden, Join the club. I have the problem as well.
[05:32] <xXSive> yeah I did that already
[05:32] <dresden> awesome
[05:32] <xXSive> I just want to seed back some downloads
[05:32] <dresden> maybe someone will take note of our plight
[05:33] <scotty21> #alsa
[05:33] <starz> so whats the problem then xXSive ?
[05:33] <xXSive> don't know how to go about doing so
[05:33] <starz> right click on the .torrent itself
[05:33] <IowaDave> what's the best link for a howto on installing flash, acroread, and other firefox plugins for dapper?
[05:33] <starz> should have bittorrent or bittornado as default to open it
[05:33] <xXSive> the problem is I can't open it to seed
[05:33] <starz> just let it open it should remember where it saved it etc etc
[05:33] <Ninja_Gaiden> dresden, I posted on the forums. Hopefully someones knows. But its hard to troubleshoot. as there are no logs written and no access to keyboard
[05:33] <Nergar> makoto, file a bug in launchpad and search the forums for nvidia drivers
[05:33] <xXSive> I can only open it to download
[05:33] <Doc_Bio> i just ran the command the from the ireland directory....with the ./ as directory
[05:33] <xXSive> <-- not a leech
[05:33] <starz> and when in doubt:
[05:33] <Doc_Bio> same error
[05:33] <starz> sudo apt-get install bittorrent bittornado
[05:33] <Shrimpy_> how do i make vlc my defualt media player
[05:33] <Ninja_Gaiden> dresden, Most likely is kernel related [05:34] <dresden> lol
[05:34] <dresden> well, it worked fine before
[05:34] <xXSive> yeah I ran bittoranado on the other machine, great program
[05:34] <Bales1> is there a way to change the mount point for a hard drive?
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Shrimpy_: Install gnome-control-center if it's not already, and under System > Preferences > Main Menu > System I think there will be an option.
[05:34] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: damn, sorry, that command name should be chown not chmod
[05:34] <Ninja_Gaiden> yeah it worked fine in Edgy
[05:34] <GuHHH> damn... there is no php5 support for apache 1.3?
[05:34] <starz> just do that command
[05:34] <dresden> i changed my computer's hostname, and now it has that error
[05:34] <xXSive> bittornado*
[05:34] <starz> itl make sure both are installed
[05:34] <starz> and one will work
[05:34] <ahave> could someone help me mount a networked drive?
[05:34] <starz> bittornado >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. bittorrent anyway
[05:34] <starz> ahave what file system?
[05:35] <Doc_Bio> it was chown
[05:35] <Ninja_Gaiden> Nobody knows the location of the logs for when the computer resumes??
[05:35] <ahave> starz i am trying to access a ntfs drive on a win2k box
[05:35] <Bales1> starz: Do you know how to change the mount point of a hard drive?
[05:35] <starz> Bales1 yeah thats easy one sec
[05:35] <starz> !paste
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <xXSive> so there is no way to open up a previously downloaded file for seeding using ubuntu's default bittorrent?
[05:35] <ahave> starz, i can view it in my 'places' but i want to be able to open files from linux apps on my linux box
[05:35] <starz> in a terminal do: cat /etc/fstab
[05:35] <xXSive> kinda sheisty
[05:35] <HorizonXP> burner: I think I got it
[05:35] <GuHHH> what is the mirc app for kubuntu? cant remember...
[05:35] <starz> xXSive did the download finish?
[05:36] <psusi> xXSive: yea, you just connect to the torrent and save to the existing file
[05:36] <starz> GuHHH kvirc
[05:36] <GuHHH> no that one
[05:36] <starz> psusi he's having issues with the application opening so i told him to sudo apt-get install bittorrent bittornado
[05:36] <starz> and make sure its even installed correctly and then just open bittorrent/tornado via right clicking on .torrent and choosing
[05:36] <xXSive> connect to the existing torrent like I am downloading it again?
[05:36] <psusi> I could have sworn that bit tornado WAS the default bt client
[05:36] <starz> we are still waiting to see if its installed correctly
[05:36] <GuHHH> startz: know any other?
[05:37] <starz> xXSive yes
[05:37] <xXSive> seems a little redundant
[05:37] <ravi_master> Doc_Bio: I am sorry, I really have to leave right now, but you could try doing sudo bash followed by nautilus, this will open a window with /root as the starting directory. Now, you can navigate to /home/ireland and change permissions of any file with right click properties.
[05:37] <starz> if you finished the dl there's nothing to dl
[05:37] <Bales1> starz: was that cat etc/fstab/ for me? And if so, what do I do from here?
[05:37] <xXSive> right, I get it
[05:37] <starz> its just gonna make sure that its not corrupted before it shares
[05:37] <xXSive> but theres no better way?
[05:37] <starz> Bales1 one sec
[05:37] <Bales1> starz: Okay, sorry
[05:37] <xXSive> jeez'
[05:37] <starz> mm
[05:37] <starz> wheres the linky ?
[05:37] <starz> oh
[05:37] <starz> yes
[05:37] <starz> and highlight and paste in pastebin
[05:37] <Cplunsford> Hello Hello, Could some one recomend a channel for help in creating a bash script? I need to create something that would interact with a Cisco Router...
[05:37] <burner> HorizonXP, no kidding?  and the vmmon modules built ok?
[05:37] <psusi> xXSive: that is how bit torrent works... you just start downloading it and if you already have it, you are done
[05:37] <xXSive> not a*  -no
[05:38] <xXSive> I know how it works .. lol  been on torrents for years
[05:38] <burner> !deluge
[05:38] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[05:38] <cowbud> what is the ubuntu open access channel o doom?
[05:38] <xXSive> just never used bittorrent as my primary
[05:38] <xXSive> always been utorrent
[05:38] <Cplunsford> Hello Hello, Could some one recomend a channel for help in creating a bash script? I need to create something that would interact with a Cisco Router...
[05:38] <Cplunsford> utorrent rocks i must say, azerus is just so bloated
[05:38] <burner> if OS == Ubuntu { deluge > * }
[05:39] <HorizonXP> burner: yeah it did
[05:39] <xXSive> I just wanted to check a files integrity so I closed the dl...  but it was legit..  now I want to seed it back
[05:39] <burner> HorizonXP, guess I"m a FUD spreader ;)  good work
[05:39] <psusi> Cplunsford: you can try asking here
[05:39] <infidel> Cplunsford, whatkind of script?
[05:39] <dresden> hey Ninja_Gaiden, i fixed my problem
[05:39] <yetifoot> Cplunsford, #bash ?
[05:39] <xXSive> just trying to figure out how you open back up without mocking a download
[05:40] <psusi> xXSive: then just restart the download... when you are done downloading ( which you already are ) you become a seed
[05:40] <IowaDave> bales1,starz: I can help with the drive mount question, if you like
[05:40] <Cplunsford> well I really don't want to ask here because there is so much crosstalk...
[05:40] <Bales1> IowaDave: Yes please
[05:40] <xXSive> ok, I'll just do it that way..  but tell me.  where is this gui I just installed?   is there not a launcher?  or is that something I will notice on the next launch?
[05:41] <scotty21> Hello, can anyone point me to the right direction to reconfigure alsa. I am having sound troubles (no sound) and can't seem to find the "alsaconf" program
[05:41] <xXSive> guess I'll see in a minute
[05:41] <IowaDave> Bales1: ok, are you trying to move the root volume?
[05:41] <Bales1> IowaDave: I don't think so...I'm a newb....
[05:41] <IowaDave> Bales1: how many hard drives do you have in the computer?
[05:42] <disasm> hmm, after some tweaking/testing I got the /dev/input/js0 to recognize, one problem, it thinks the left button is down. I unplugged it, ran it upstairs to my edgy computer and it worked fine, and it worked fine before the upgrade to feisty, a bug in joydev module of 2.6.20 kernel maybe? If so, should I do a custom kernel compile of the 2.6.20 vanilla sources and try to replicate it so I know if it's an ubuntu patch or upstream problem?
[05:42] <OatTop> how's the champ style sam?
[05:42] <ahave> can someone help me mount a ntfs networked drive on my linux box?
[05:42] <Bales1> IowaDave: 2
[05:42] <CaniSoria> hi to everyone, can i get support for beryl for feisty fawn here or do i need to go to the beryl channel?
[05:42] <disasm> OatTop: champ style???
[05:42] <IowaDave> Bales1: the one you want to move, is that your "second one"?
[05:43] <OatTop> disasm, sorry was speaking in the wrong channel
[05:43] <CaniSoria> hi to everyone, can i get support for beryl for feisty fawn here or do i need to go to the beryl channel?
[05:43] <disasm> OatTop: ah, my name happens to be sam, took me offguard :-P
[05:43] <pavs> my speaker is not working what can i do? the last thing i did was update it running feisty
[05:43] <Bales1> IowaDave: I have two hard drives, one with just 250 gigs of storage on it, and the other I have Windows and Ubuntu installed. I wanna change the storage one from /media/windows to /media/storage
[05:43] <Cplunsford> excuse me what is the address to this IRC channel is it chat.freenode.net?
[05:43] <refefer> hey guys, anyone here know how to use 915resolution to set intel chipsets to widescreen resolutions?
[05:43] <Nergar> is there any ubuntu-wifi channel or something???
[05:43] <Nergar> My BCM43xx turns off by itself! how do i solve this?
[05:44] <Cplunsford> Nergar, i just went through that
[05:44] <Cplunsford> this is the solution
[05:44] <disasm> Bales1: edit /etc/fstab, change the mount point, then remount it
[05:44] <disasm> Bales1: probly best to unmount it first before changing fstab
[05:44] <Bales1> how do I unmount?
[05:44] <IowaDave> Bales1: is the storage one formatted for Windows? (i.e. vfat or ntfs)?
[05:44] <Bales1> disasm: how do I unmount?
[05:44] <Nergar> YES!! tell me Cplunsford!
[05:44] <Cplunsford> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:44] <Cplunsford> answer yes
[05:44] <Bales1> IowaDave: NTFS, I believe
[05:44] <Nergar> thats all??
[05:45] <Cplunsford> then
[05:45] <roh> hi there
[05:45] <felixhummel> I installed language-support-de, but still German words are marked wrong in Firefox and xchat... How do I make them recognize both English (working now) and German (not yet)?
[05:45] <felixhummel> hi roh
[05:45] <Cplunsford> sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:45] <ahave> can someone help me mount a ntfs networked drive on my linux box?
[05:45] <IowaDave> Bales1: sounds like you are not sure how to use fstab and mount?
[05:45] <Bales1> IowaDave: Under fdisk, it says HPFS/NTFS
[05:45] <Cplunsford> did you get that nergar
[05:45] <Bales1> IowaDave: Yeah, like I said, I'm a noob. But I learn really quickly
[05:46] <disasm> Bales1: umount /path/to/mount
[05:46] <refefer> hey guys, anyone know how to set widescreen resolution for intel chipsets?
[05:46] <Nergar> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter sudo modprobe bcm43xx okok thnx!!
[05:46] <CaniSoria> hi to everyone, can i get support for beryl for feisty fawn here or do i need to go to the beryl channel?
[05:46] <Nergar> thnx Cplunsford
[05:46] <IowaDave> Bales1: what disasm said is the first step.
[05:46] <mrwilloby> Is there an easy process for moving the Ubuntu partition to a new drive?
[05:46] <SyL> is there a "safe" way to force ubuntu 7.04 to know that my monitor can do better then 1024x768?
[05:46] <Cplunsford> Nergar you should be gtg any luck?
[05:46] <roh> fsck. can anybody please help me find the bug/workaround why the feisty final bootcd has a crashing vesa-x11 and the beta did not? i'm on a thinkpad T60p 1680x1050 here with an ati graphics card.
[05:46] <linxeh> CaniSoria: ask away I guess
[05:46] <disasm> CaniSoria: depends on if anyone in the channel is currently using beryl
[05:46] <KingOfBizzzz> Which distro is the most stable: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:46] <linxeh> SyL: how old is your monitor ?
[05:46] <Bales1> IowaDave: I didn't understand how to unmount
[05:47] <Toma-> !fixres > SyL
[05:47] <pavs> my speaker is not working what can i do? the last thing i did was update it running feisty
[05:47] <Bales1> IowaDave: Do I just type, unmount /media/windows?
[05:47] <psusi> roh: this i386 or amd64?
[05:47] <roh> and launchpad is nice, but quite unsearchable with 80x25 in links
[05:47] <DanaG> refefer:
[05:47] <roh> psusi i386. its a core2duo so i could run amd64 i think
[05:47] <Nergar> Cplunsford, my card was working but it randomly turns off, so i'll have to wait to see
[05:47] <DanaG> !info 915resolution
[05:47] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[05:47] <CaniSoria> i have the same problem, i can't past by 1024X768
[05:47] <DanaG> and there's a new xserver-xorg-driver-intel
[05:47] <Cplunsford> you are using fiesty right?
[05:47] <psusi> roh: the i386 desktop iso did not change between beta and final
[05:47] <Bales1> IowaDave: Oh, I think I just got it unmounted
[05:47] <Nergar> Cplunsford, yes
[05:47] <Cplunsford> the normal driver is bugged or something
[05:47] <Toma-> !fixres
[05:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <Cplunsford> don't know the why, but thats the how of it' good luck
[05:48] <task0> hello all, for start learning linux from 0... do you recommend debian? or y should try first with ubuntu?
[05:48] <Catoptromancy> Anyone know how to fix libc6?
[05:48] <Catoptromancy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17344/
[05:48] <Cplunsford> ubuntu task0, the community is awsome
[05:48] <Nergar> thnx for the fix Cplunsford
[05:48] <linxeh> task: ubuntu
[05:48] <Catoptromancy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17345/
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> task0, ubuntu...
[05:48] <refefer> !info 915resolution
[05:48] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[05:48] <psusi> task0: ubuntu is more user friendly than debian
[05:48] <nomasteryoda|w> then try debian, etc...
[05:48] <roh> psusi eh. it must, else it would be working, wouldn't it? i installed 4 days ago on the same machine
[05:48] <Cplunsford> Suzie Jones
[05:49] <Dayton> I have ubuntu 7.04 final, installed on my fujitsu lifebook a3040, and i have 3-4 problems i need help with.  1. cant connect to internet via built in wireless card or through ethernet port 2. sound doesnt work 3. battery meter on the panel doesnt work.  If you would like to help me that would be great, thanks.
[05:49] <IowaDave> Bales1:  now type cat /etc/fstab and look for entries that begin /dev/hda or /dev/hdb
[05:49] <Cplunsford> what is the command to join a channel in irc?
[05:49] <psusi> roh: check the md6sums... the files are identicle...
[05:49] <psusi> md5sums even
[05:49] <Cplunsford> i can't remeber is it /join #channel?
[05:49] <Bales1> IowaDave: Alright
[05:49] <DanaG> Amarok just Loooooves to crash for me.
[05:49] <roh> just from another cdrom (then internal, now external usb2). yes i have run the check on the cd and it seems fine
[05:49] <linxeh> night all
[05:49] <Bales1> IowaDave: I created a directory for it, /media/storage so can I just change it using gedit?
[05:50] <frantic> !xv
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <frantic> !xvideo
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <ahave> can someone help me mount a ntfs networked drive on my linux box?
[05:50] <DanaG> Wow, NTFS-3G uses a helluvalot of CPU.
[05:50] <DanaG> At least when over USB 2.0.
[05:51] <task0> is really safe to use nre NTFS-3G?
[05:51] <IowaDave> Bales1: yes, I think so. Change the /media/windows to /media/storare in fstab. you might have to sudo gedit in order to gain necessary write privileges to save the change
[05:51] <roh> psusi does 'check cd' also check the install-rootfs or does it only checksum the .debs on it?
[05:51] <DanaG> I wish ntfs-3g had an "errors=remount-ro" option.
[05:51] <Bales1> IowaDave: Yeah, I did all that
[05:51] <HorizonXP> burner: yeah, definitely works, i'm creating a new VM now
[05:51] <psusi> roh: it checksums the raw cd
[05:51] <Bales1> IowaDave: Alright, I think I got it covered, thanks for your help. I'll let you know when something goes wrong
[05:51] <DanaG> As it is, if you put ntfs-3g in fstab and it can't mount RW, it won't mount AT ALL.
[05:51] <DanaG> It SHOULD mount RO on failure to mount RW.
[05:51] <Cplunsford> How do i create a channel? or is that not allowed on freenode?
[05:51] <roh> psusi then it seems to be a bug at least.
[05:51] <IowaDave> Bales1: now mount /media/storage. let me know what happens
[05:52] <frantic> does anyone know about xv and the like?
[05:52] <SyL> thanks...
[05:52] <Bales1> IowaDave: Alright, I think it did it, thanks a lot!
[05:52] <IowaDave> Bales1: great!
[05:52] <disasm> hmmm... can I disable update-grub? I've got 5 OS's on here, 2 are ubuntu, and every upgrade, my one ubuntu screws up the root on the other ubuntu's kernels
[05:53] <Dayton> I have ubuntu 7.04 final, installed on my fujitsu lifebook a3040 laptop, and i have 4 problems. 1. cant connect to internet via built in wireless card or through ethernet port 2. sound doesnt work 3. battery meter on the panel doesnt work. If you would like to help me that would be great, thanks.
[05:53] <Bales1> IowaDave: Now I have to work on mounting my Windows partition
[05:53] <DanaG> Is /boot/ a separate partition?
[05:53] <Nergar> Bales1, may I recomend ntfs-3g??
[05:53] <Bales1> Nergar: sure...I think I already got it
[05:54] <task0> is ntfs doccumented, or ntfs-3g was reverserd engieneering?
[05:54] <DanaG> Intel's chipsets may be lame, but generic sometimes == stable.
[05:54] <Nergar> well, then mounting will be piece of cake
[05:54] <mrwilloby> Is it better to install Ubuntu and Kubuntu on separate partitions or does running them on the same partition work well?
[05:54] <roh> psusi it's reproducable. can you take a look at http://yamato.hyte.de/tmp/xorg.log ?
[05:54] <Nergar> task0, reversed
[05:54] <itsmeagain> hey
[05:54] <Cobb> hi... is there a way to upgrade to feisty using just the ISO image
[05:55] <task0> Nergar, :S so is not reaaly safe to use?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> Cobb: with the alternate one it should be possible, with some finagling
[05:55] <itsmeagain> does anyone knows a debian equivalent to xorg-driver-fglrx ? i cant get my debian to load xserver
[05:55] <Nergar> yes, it reached a stable version (1.0)
[05:55] <FAC|Kamikaze> someone knowledgeable about booting off of a live disc please pm me
[05:55] <ahave> can someone help me mount a ntfs networked drive on my linux box?
[05:55] <theglace> FAC|Kamikaze: Why? Information should be free and open :-)
[05:56] <Nergar> FAC|Kamikaze, you need to change your bios settings
[05:56] <task0> Nergar, it can allways be 1.2~2.0 :S
[05:56] <diabolix> the isntaller should default to something other than ext3.. ext3 sucks.
[05:56] <psusi> roh: try not using vesa?
[05:56] <Cobb> tonyyarusso: alternate one?
[05:56] <Nergar> task0, it is considered a stable release. aka reliable
[05:56] <psusi> diabolix: why do you say that?  "it sucks" isn't very specific
[05:56] <roh> psusi is fglrx possible when booting from cd?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> !alternate | Cobb
[05:56] <ubotu> Cobb: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[05:57] <Nergar> task0, go to the website
[05:57] <psusi> roh: the open source mesa 3d drivers work well for me
[05:57] <Cplunsford> excellent
[05:57] <roh> psusi another option isn't there. ati does not support that high series
[05:57] <diabolix> psusi: its very slow for just about everything imaginable.
[05:57] <Cplunsford> Suzie
[05:57] <Cplunsford> say something
[05:57] <Cplunsford> sujones224
[05:57] <psusi> roh: what card?  I have an X850 and it works under feisty
[05:57] <roh> psusi X1400 here afaik
[05:58] <jason0_> How can I move AWN to the bottom of my screen?
[05:58] <psusi> diabolix: compared to what?  and what kind of workloads?
[05:58] <Cobb> ubotu: well i cannot burn a cd.. thats the problem
[05:58] <roh> psusi its a thinkpad T60p widescreen
[05:58] <everton137> Hi there, I tried upgrade my ubuntu version from 6.10 to 7.4, folowing this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual, but I am having conflict problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17346/. My /etc/apt/sources.list is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17347/. apt-get -f install is not solving. What sould I do?
[05:58] <xXSive> as far as that gui for bittorrent goes..  non-existant on my machine..  (using synaptic)
[05:58] <FAC|Kamikaze> After I select "Install Ubuntu" from the boot menu off of the CD, it says it loads the kernel, then I get no output from my video card
[05:58] <DanaG> ext3 is great if you want to be able to use ext2ifs.
[05:58] <DanaG> There's no reiserfs equivalent.
[05:58] <roh> psusi i would be glad to have the shitty legacy vesa in xga till the installer is though ;)
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Cobb: You could download the other ISO, install apache2, loopmount the ISO in the web directory, and add localhost as a repository source.
[05:59] <Cplunsford> hey is Reiser depreciated or is it still being developed??
[05:59] <delaney> is anyone else having problems with apt-get build-dep reporting there is no source list for packages with feisty  (specifically xubuntu)
[05:59] <Cobb> tonyyarusso: alrite
[05:59] <task0> is possible to get old matrix screensaver?
[05:59] <psusi> Cplunsford: it is not being actively developed... it is stable...
[06:00] <mjbrooks> I need information on troubleshooting a laptop screen that won't go blank on inactivity in the final Feisty release, even though it was fine in the herd & beta. Anyone know a good link?
[06:00] <bryan> hello i need help
[06:00] <bryan> i need help installing audio drivers ALSA package to ubuntu
[06:01] <bryan> i downloaded the drivers but i do not know how to install them
[06:01] <roh> psusi any other ideas besides burning a alternate install cd and file a bug?
[06:01] <jdu1> Hi.  I just installed Feisty on an external USB drive, works great.  However, I would like to be able to move it to different boxes without having to reconfigure xserver each time.  Is there a way to either get it to detect the hardware whenever it boots, like a live-cd, or to be able to choose an xorg.conf file before starting the server, kind of like a Windows hardware profile?
[06:01] <frantic> bryan you shouldn't have to do that
[06:01] <xXSive> bryan, what release of ubuntu?
[06:01] <jwells> anyone have cisco vpn working on feisty fawn?
[06:01] <frantic> what kind of sound hardware do you have?
[06:01] <CaniSoria> i have the same problem, i can't past by 1024X768, i alredy found the horizontal and vertical frequency from the manufacturer, shoudl i just replace the values in the xorg.conf for the ones that i found?
[06:01] <bryan> the new one
[06:01] <^^PiscesChineseB> laptop benQ joybook 5000 can install ubuntu?
[06:01] <^^PiscesChineseB> can anyone help me? pm me thx
[06:01] <bryan> and i am a newbie xxsive
[06:01] <Byan> is there any way to get wget to resume..?
[06:01] <FAC|Kamikaze> can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me?
[06:01] <DanaG> jdu1: try renaming xorg.conf to something else, to give the autoconfig a try.
[06:02] <xXSive> we all are to some degree or another
[06:02] <bryan> frantic ?
[06:02] <frantic> bryan open a terminal and run "aplay -l"
[06:02] <task0> is possible to get old matrix screensaver?
[06:02] <bryan> frantic and xXSive
[06:02] <psusi> roh: you can try disabling acceleration and dri in the xorg.conf
[06:02] <jwells> trying to solve this problem ./vpnclient: No such file or directory
[06:02] <mjbrooks> !pm
[06:02] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:02] <SyL> linxeh: my monitor is pretty old it's an old IBM P260 CRT. =)
[06:02] <jwells> trying to solve this problem "./vpnclient: No such file or directory"
[06:02] <jdu1> DanaG, do you mean that if there is no xorg.conf, it will run autoconfig automatically?
[06:02] <jwells> trying to solve this problem "\vpnclient: No such file or directory"
[06:02] <privet> Byan, I normally run wget with these 2 switched "-c -S"
[06:02] <CaniSoria> i have the same problem, i can't past by 1024X768, i alredy found the horizontal and vertical frequency from the manufacturer, shoudl i just replace the values in the xorg.conf for the ones that i found?
[06:02] <jwells> trying to solve this problem "vpnclient: No such file or directory"
[06:03] <bryan> frantic do i just type that in i am brand new to linux of any kind and i no longer have windows, i destroyed it on accident
[06:03] <Byan> privet: uh.. ok
[06:03] <roh> psusi vesa does not have accel and ignores the dri by concept
[06:03] <guhhh> can anyone give me a debian repository?
[06:03] <privet> it should resume without any problems
[06:03] <DanaG> Xorg will try to configure itself (without creating any new config files).
[06:03] <frantic> sucks when that happens
[06:03] <guhhh> can anyone give me a debian repository?
[06:03] <mjbrooks> !patience |   CaniSoria
[06:03] <ubotu> CaniSoria: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:03] <frantic> you want to type it in without the quotes and hit return
[06:03] <psusi> roh: that's what I thought...
[06:03] <FAC|Kamikaze> can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me?
[06:03] <FlavourFlav> bryan : wget -c resumes
[06:03] <Cplunsford> SUZIE JONES TYPE SOMETHING
[06:03] <frantic> ...in a termainal
[06:03] <xXSive> well the reason I asked what version you were running is that the edgy guide explains it in great detail
[06:03] <bryan> frantic it says i have an audigy 4 which is correct
[06:03] <Byan> FlavourFlav: thanks, and Byan*
[06:03] <xXSive> just google "edgy guide"
[06:03] <ahave> can someone point me in the right direction to mount a networked drive on my linux box?
[06:03] <mjbrooks> !pm > FAC|Kamikaze
[06:03] <xXSive> if that is what you have
[06:03] <^^PiscesChineseB> laptop benQ joybook 5000 can install ubuntu?
[06:03] <jdu1> That's awesome.
[06:04] <^^PiscesChineseB> can anyone help me? pm me thx
[06:04] <frantic> ok gimme a sec
[06:04] <CaniSoria> ubotu, i understand, i just thought that maybe no one read my msg
[06:04] <Cplunsford> say HELLO CPLUNSFORD
[06:04] <Cplunsford> sorry about the caps guys
[06:04] <bryan> but my sound doesnt work frantic
[06:04] <mjbrooks> !pm > ^^PiscesChineseB
[06:04] <Cplunsford> trying to get some one to figure out irc
[06:04] <roh> psusi can you give me a hint where i find someone familiar with the x11-packages? i do not want do bother here anymore since its really high traffic
[06:05] <roh> psusi its clearly segfaulting which it never should do. so its a bug.
[06:05] <hax> hey all... i'm working with some really bad C code, and ubuntu is apparently actively zeroing memory and preventing buffer overflows... how can i *disable* that 'feature'?
[06:05] <psusi> roh: if I knew that, I'd be all over them myself ;)
[06:05] <psusi> roh: well, it could be a bug in your bios
[06:05] <frantic> bryan: "sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1"
[06:05] <task0> is possible to get old matrix screensaver?
[06:05] <PoofDaddy> can anyone help me with wireless on feisty
[06:05] <roh> psusi which should also not be able to crash the xorg.
[06:05] <privet> ahave: what type of network drive is it?
[06:05] <mjbrooks> !anyone | PoofDaddy
[06:05] <ubotu> PoofDaddy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:05] <privet> ftp/samba/etc.?
[06:05] <roh> psusi and if it does, its still a bug
[06:05] <psusi> hax: "preventing buffer overflows"?
[06:05] <xXSive> poofdaddy, what could have possibly went wrong w/ wireless on feisty?
[06:06] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-emu10kl
[06:06] <xXSive> it's auto-magic
[06:06] <bryan> Password:
[06:06] <bryan> FATAL: Module snd_emu10kl not found.
[06:06] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:06] <ahave> privet, it is a NTFS drive on a win2k box
[06:06] <hax> psusi: yeah, it's actively stopping bad C code from overflowing
[06:06] <bryan> oops sorry
[06:06] <jdu1> Also, I installed Apache2, and the ssl stuff seems to be missing.  Definitely apache2-ssl-certificate is missing.
[06:06] <bryan> i forgot about that rule
[06:06] <DanaG> I had that same issue with C......
[06:06] <Centaur5> How can you find out what group a user is in via command line?
[06:06] <bryan> frantic i posted result above
[06:06] <FAC|Kamikaze> Can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me please.
[06:06] <hax> psusi: it's also apparently zeroing memory so things that shouldn't be 0 are
[06:06] <DanaG> Frustrating when I then go to run my code on a Solaris system.
[06:06] <psusi> roh: I suppose it should be catching any sigv raised by the bios...
[06:06] <frantic> uhh weird
[06:06] <hax> psusi: there is no 'garbage', that is
[06:06] <privet> ahave: so that should be samba then
[06:06] <psusi> hax: what do you mean it stopped it?
[06:07] <frantic> bryan, did you do - or _ in the name of the driver
[06:07] <PoofDaddy> xXSive and ubotu:  I have the wireless, but can't connect on any of the available unsecured networks.
[06:07] <roh> psusi the bios is not executed anymore when linux is up. the bios is 16bit realmode code
[06:07] <FAC|Kamikaze> Can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me please.
[06:07] <ahave> privet, i am using samba to access my linux filesystem from windows machines.. but i am trying to do the opposite
[06:07] <privet> start your testing with "smbclient //machine/share"
[06:07] <roh> psusi only acpi gets interpretet at runtime
[06:07] <psusi> roh: vesa executes the video bios... that's what vesa means
[06:07] <ahave> privet, i want to view the files of my windows machine on my linux box
[06:07] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[06:07] <xXSive> weird, if you can't connect on an unsecured wireless connection than I would say the wireless card may not be supported
[06:07] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:07] <bryan>  frantic
[06:07] <hax> psusi: i want it to behave like a normal linux OS... that is, uninitialized buffers are left as garbage and not zeroed on load, and also buffer overruns are allowed to happen
[06:07] <roh> psusi yes. in a VM env. which emulates realmode
[06:08] <FAC|Kamikaze> Can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me please.
[06:08] <theglace> Anyone know why a fresh Ubuntu 6.06 install upgraded to 7.04 might be having HUGE network problems?
[06:08] <theglace> Kamikaze, why PM?
[06:08] <theglace> I'm getting 500b/s
[06:08] <privet> ahave, correct: first get it working using "smbclient"
[06:08] <Jack313> does mounting images use disk space?
[06:08] <hax> psusi: by default, ubuntu seems to stop buffers from overrunning somehow... and it zeros all incoming memory
[06:08] <bryan> frantic was that correct
[06:08] <frantic> ok so you did - that time and it responded with nothing (it found the driver and loaded it if it wasn't already loaded)
[06:08] <privet> after that you use "smbmount"
[06:08] <roh> anyways... i'm outta here.. have fun installing like mad ;)
[06:08] <psusi> roh: yes... it is run in v86 mode... so it segfaults if it tries to touch memory it doesn't hvae access to
[06:08] <bryan> ok
[06:08] <privet> to mount it on your Linux machine
[06:08] <frantic> bryan does your sound work now?
[06:08] <xXSive> I was expecting a WPA problem or something
[06:08] <xXSive> jeez' theres no reason at all that you shouldn't be connecting on a wide open network
[06:09] <bryan> i just type smbmount frantic?
[06:09] <theglace> My internet connection is running extremely slow on this box, fine on Windows and Mandriva
[06:09] <frantic> uhhh no smbmount
[06:09] <psusi> hax: buffer overruns happen... saying they are not allowed makes no sense... as for memory being zeroed, is this memory in the bss?  that is allways zero on program initialization
[06:09] <theglace> Any ideas, anyone?
[06:09] <ahave> privet, i am not familiar with smbclient.. i suppose i will read up on it next
[06:09] <jdu1> jeez, this IRC thing is like crack.  How do you guys keep track of what you're paying attention to?
[06:09] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[06:09] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ smbmount
[06:09] <bryan> The program 'smbmount' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[06:09] <bryan> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:09] <bryan> bash: smbmount: command not found
[06:09] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:09] <PoofDaddy> xXSive: any ideas?
[06:09] <FAC|Kamikaze> Can someone please help me with booting off of a live cd? pm me please.
[06:09] <DanaG> Wow-ow-ow, USB 2.0 + NTFS-3G == (slow AND cpu-intensive)
[06:09] <bryan> thats what i typed frantic look up
[06:10] <theglace> jdu1: magic.
[06:10] <joey221> can anyone recommend a channel for hardware-related issues?  new build here, PC acting weird
[06:10] <psusi> jdu1: practice
[06:10] <frantic> bryan, smbmount is for windows file sharing
[06:10] <jdu1> I guess so.
[06:10] <DanaG> damn Intel for promoting USB when Firewire was, and still is, far superior!
[06:10] <xXSive> definitely the card in my opinion
[06:10] <FAC|Kamikaze> i guess this channel isnt noob friendly?
[06:10] <theglace> jdu1: You learn, just keep trying.
[06:10] <Cplunsford> psusi
[06:10] <jdu1> Anyone else having apache2 ssl problems?
[06:10] <bryan> i am on ubuntu
[06:10] <theglace> Kamikaze: WHY DO YOU WANT A PM?
[06:10] <theglace> jdu1: What specifically?
[06:10] <FAC|Kamikaze> i need fricken help bro
[06:10] <bryan> i do not have windows frantic
[06:10] <PoofDaddy> xXSive: i have broadcom
[06:10] <psusi> Cplunsford: eh?
[06:10] <hax> psusi: well in most cases, the memory wouldn't be 0, so ubuntu doing that prevents you from noticing bugs in C... and i'm working with someone else debugging my code, but as far as i can tell, his ubuntu install is just preventing it from overruning a buffer
[06:10] <privet> ahave: pretty easy to use... the manpage says most all of it
[06:10] <theglace> Kamikaze: Say it publically.
[06:11] <frantic> ok bryan, go to your System, Preferences, Sound menus
[06:11] <Cplunsford> psusi sorry nm
[06:11] <Matir> FAC|Kamikaze, what problems do you have booting the livecd?
[06:11] <hax> psusi: i supposed i could be wrong about that
[06:11] <xXSive> they're supported?
[06:11] <psusi> hax: what memory?  if it's on the bss segment it is allways zero when the program starts
[06:11] <Centaur5> ahave: I actually could not get smbmount to work for some reason so I used mount -t smbfs -o username=user //machinename/sharename /mount/point
[06:11] <bryan> ok frantic
[06:11] <PoofDaddy> xXSive: i had feisty installed when i was at Penguicon in Michigan.
[06:11] <privet> ahave: smbclient -U username -W workgroup //machine/share
[06:11] <DanaG> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
[06:11] <DanaG> debconf: (Dialog frontend will not work on a dumb terminal, an emacs shell buffer, or without a controlling terminal.)
[06:11] <DanaG> debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
[06:11] <xXSive> <--only knows his own equip.
[06:11] <jdu1> Well, the apache2-common package is supposed to contain mod_ssl, but the apache2-ssl-certificate script is missing
[06:11] <frantic> gry going to sound events and selecting alsa for sound playback and hitting test
[06:11] <FAC|Kamikaze> after selecting "Install Ubuntu", it says the kernel is loaded, then i dont get any output from my vid card
[06:11] <theglace> jdu1: Did you install via the repositories?
[06:11] <psusi> hax: define prevent... it segfaults?
[06:11] <jdu1> yep
[06:11] <syke> hi
[06:11] <frantic> bryan, Try going to sound events and selecting alsa for sound playback and hitting test
[06:11] <jdu1> theglace: yes, I did
[06:11] <theglace> !slow | jdu1
[06:11] <ubotu> jdu1: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[06:12] <theglace> Could be that.
[06:12] <DanaG> those 3 lines are in update-manager's embvedded console.
[06:12] <psusi> FAC|Kamikaze: are you running the amd64 build?
[06:12] <hackel> How can I stop gnome-cups-add from being launched every time I plug in my usb printer?  I know I can disable it completely from gnome-volume-properties, but can't it simply detect that the printer has already been configured in cups and not prompt me?
[06:12] <Cplunsford_> is this the same channel?
[06:12] <hax> psusi: sec, trying to get more information, i'm not actually the one with the ubuntu account... i thought this would be a common issue :)
[06:12] <bryan> ok i did it frantic ...
[06:12] <bryan> nothing happened
[06:12] <frantic> did you hear a tone?
[06:12] <frantic> hmm
[06:12] <syke> my bcm43xx card in my laptop was working great, but we got a new base station and now it doesn't work any more. iwlist can see the AP, but I can't seem to associate. everything works fine in windows. any ideas?
[06:12] <frantic> try switching it to ESD and OSS
[06:12] <FAC|Kamikaze> yes
[06:12] <_pepo_> hi friends
[06:12] <jdu1> ubotu: ok.  The iso, is it of a deb, or will I have to do that config/make/install crap that never works?
[06:12] <frantic> does it work for either of those?
[06:13] <SyL> is there any other ways to force the possible res in ubuntu 7.04?
[06:13] <psusi> FAC|Kamikaze: I have the same issue... ati video card?  edit the kernel command line and change the word splash to nosplash
[06:13] <munkymunkyman> hello
[06:13] <_pepo_> I've downloaded ubuntu 7.04 but: which is the md5sum for the desktop image?
[06:13] <munkymunkyman> iv just updated my ubuntu
[06:13] <Suzie224> cplunsford
[06:13] <Cplunsford> THERE you are
[06:13] <FAC|Kamikaze> psusi | thanks, I will try that, I have an x850
[06:13] <bryan> i tried that frantic how long does it have to sit there and say testing before i click finish
[06:13] <munkymunkyman> and am trying to update my java
[06:13] <frantic> it should make a tone immediately
[06:13] <Lgndryhr> Hi. How do I change my resolution? I have tried but nothing seems to change.
[06:13] <psusi> FAC|Kamikaze: me too
[06:13] <munkymunkyman> via aptitude install sun-jav6-jre
[06:13] <bryan> nothing seems to work but it sees my sound card frantic
[06:14] <Centaur5> I can't figure out why my smbuser I created can't login to a share, anybody able to help?
[06:14] <munkymunkyman> but im errorred with E: Couldn't find package sun-jav6-jre
[06:14] <hax> psusi: apparently some kind of warning at run time about potential overflows
[06:14] <frantic> weird...
[06:14] <DanaG> how DO you make Linux not zero memory?
[06:14] <xXSive> ok, people..  don't get married.. really..  you can't even come to the IRC sausage party w/o some kind of arguement developing..  if there are women on IRC, I've yet to find any..  anyhow.. you all have fun while I eat the crow
[06:14] <hax> psusi: i guess if it doesnt ring any bells, nevermind :/
[06:14] <Suzie224> about time
[06:14] <theglace> Anyone know why Ubuntu might be getting ridiculously slow internet connection, whereas Windows and Mandriva Free do not.
[06:14] <munkymunkyman> how do i update my list so it reconizes
[06:14] <theglace> xXSive: shut up.
[06:14] <frantic> bryan, how did you install feisty?
[06:14] <munkymunkyman> java6
[06:14] <scarter> i've got a notebook with one of those pesky TI SD/MMC media controllers [104c:8033]  which doesn't currently work properly
[06:14] <bryan> with the live CD
[06:14] <Cplunsford> Ok guys, Suzie224 and me need to create a script that will allow us to check the status of a interface on a cisco router, and will down it and up it if connection fails
[06:14] <theglace> xXSive: No need to troll and cause trouble. If we're too immature, bugger off.
[06:14] <niru> what is the process of producting an installable cd from live cd
[06:14] <joey221> I need a builders/modders channel, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:14] <Cplunsford> can any one walk us through this?
[06:14] <munkymunkyman> anyone?
[06:14] <bryan> right over the top of windows xp and all of my photos and music frantic
[06:14] <munkymunkyman> anyone?
[06:15] <bryan> kinda shitty
[06:15] <frantic> haha :/
[06:15] <psusi> hax: sounds like you are using the debug runtime library... you still haven't answered my question about what kind of memory.. is this malloc'd memory?  that would make sense
[06:15] <niru> I mean what technique is adopted to build a live cd through which installation is possible
[06:15] <bryan> 120GB gone
[06:15] <frantic> well uhhh next time don't do it that way
[06:15] <Lgndryhr> Hi. How do I change my resolution? I have tried but nothing seems to change.  I am not sure how to edit xorg.conf to change my resolution. Help would be much appreciated.
[06:15] <bryan> yeah no shiit
[06:15] <frantic> but this sound thing is weird... did you have sound on the live cd?
[06:15] <psusi> hax: typically the malloc routine in debug builds of the C runtime library check for under/overflows on free
[06:15] <task0> is reasonable to format and old stable ubuntu installation to go to new one? or upgrade rls is the same?
[06:15] <bryan> sux for me ay?
[06:15] <kryptik> Lgndryhr
[06:15] <psusi> hax: and if they found them, they abort with an error message
[06:16] <bryan> it told me that i would have one more time to boot to xp to back everything up
[06:16] <DanaG> And how can I make gnome-vfs wait longer for a really slow ssh server?
[06:16] <bryan> i never tried it on the live cd
[06:16] <psusi> niru: the livecd basically just copies itself to the hard drive
[06:16] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why "aptitude install sun-java6-jre" would present the error E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[06:16] <Lgndryhr> Yes? kryptik?
[06:16] <theglace> Does someone have a goddamned hint for me?
[06:16] <DanaG> Wanna make Ubuntu use Java 6?
[06:16] <bryan> i didnt think about soiund as being a problem
[06:16] <theglace> munkymunkyman:Enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[06:16] <DanaG> the key is sudo update-alternatives --config
[06:16] <kryptik> have u tried System > Preference> Screen Resolution ?
[06:16] <DanaG> some things:\
[06:16] <hax> psusi: yeah, apparently its not aborting, just warning... or something... i cant actually see it in front of me, but i figured it was some wacky ubuntu thing, so it was worth an ask
[06:17] <Lgndryhr> no i have not lemme try that
[06:17] <bryan> i downloaded those drivers, i had to do all kinds of searching and reading to find it and i cant install it
[06:17] <task0> no!?
[06:17] <DanaG> (tab complete may tell you.  Or install galternatives.)
[06:17] <psusi> task0: an upgrade will keep any extra packages you have installed ( upgrading them in the process ) and any other files you have added
[06:17] <DanaG> !info galternatives
[06:17] <ubotu> galternatives: graphical setup tool for the alternatives system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.4 (feisty), package size 27 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:17] <anpi> hi, i just upgraded to feisty and my X dpi jumped to 126 though it should be 96. i had previously in edgy hacked to 96 by adding DisplaySize 362 265 line in xorg.conf, but it seems to work no longer. i'm running fluxbox on kubuntu, so changing it from kcontrol doesn't work. any ideas?
[06:17] <_pepo_> I've downloaded ubuntu 7.04 but: which is the md5sum for the desktop image?
[06:17] <Lam_> how often is /tmp cleared?
[06:17] <niru> psusi, then how it installs the whole os
[06:17] <frantic> bryan, for the most part, searching and finding drivers isn't the thing to do in linux
[06:17] <bryan> u know frantic?
[06:17] <bryan> i dont kow these things man
[06:17] <niru> I mean in ubuntu we have an option called install on desktop
[06:17] <Cplunsford> Ok guys, Suzie224 and me need to create a script that will allow us to check the status of a interface on a cisco router, and will down it and up it if connection fails, can any one walk us through this or point us in the right direction?
[06:17] <frantic> the driver for your sound is already installed and running
[06:17] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why "aptitude install sun-java6-jre" would present the error E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[06:17] <bryan> im trapped in an OS i know NOTHING ABOUT!
[06:17] <psusi> Lam_: it is a ramdisk so it goes away when you reboot
[06:18] <Lam_> psusi: ah. ok thanks
[06:18] <SyL> Cplunsford: what are you trying to do and why?
[06:18] <psusi> niru: the whole os is on the livecd... so it just copies it to the hard disk
[06:18] <bryan> ui dont even understand how all you people know all these commands for terminal prog frantic
[06:18] <Lgndryhr> it helped kryptic
[06:18] <Lgndryhr> thanks
[06:18] <frantic> bryan, it's just like being accustomed to doing things a certain way in windows
[06:18] <bryan> how do yo know that about my driver frantic
[06:18] <theglace> He watches you at night, bryan.
[06:18] <mjbrooks> bryan, the same can be said for most windows users,  they don't know anything about windows either  ;)
[06:18] <frantic> that snd-emu10k1 bit was to load your sound driver
[06:19] <kryptik> no problem...i can show u how to make it permanent if u will im me private
[06:19] <Cplunsford> SyL, suzie224 has a class project that she has to do, she needs to make an automated script that will send some commands to a cisco router
[06:19] <Lam_> is there a tool that can handle monkey's audio (ape) via command line?
[06:19] <Lgndryhr> but also how do i change my resolution of my mounting screen
[06:19] <Cplunsford> suzie224, router model and OS?
[06:19] <frantic> since it didn't cause an error, it already has your sound driver
[06:19] <bryan> but it didnt seem to do anything
[06:19] <Lam_> !ape
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <frantic> yes, many commands say nothing unless there is an error
[06:19] <scarter> _pepo_: check this for the md5 of your ISO -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414307
[06:19] <kryptik> which mounting screen?
[06:19] <frantic> it's good for making scripts
[06:19] <Suzie224> cplunsford, 2821 IOS 12.3
[06:20] <kryptik> i dont really understand ur question
[06:20] <bryan> thats weird not to have a confirmation or a prompt to ask if you want to use it or test it
[06:20] <bryan> whats a script?
[06:20] <_pepo_> tnx
[06:20] <Cplunsford> Need help making a bash script to send commands to a Cisco 2821 router, can some one please help?
[06:20] <bryan> i feel so freakin lost
[06:20] <Cplunsford> Suzie224 are you allowed to use cron to automate it? (cron schedules tasks)
[06:20] <ogami1972> hi all- anyone know of an easy how-to for boinc?
[06:21] <felixhummel> Can gedit check two different languages at the same time? I mostly write documents containing German and English.
[06:21] <mjbrooks> bryan, perl -e 'print "Hello, World!\n"' is a script  ;)
[06:21] <frantic> bryan, when you take a bunch of terminal commands and put them in a text file, it's like a little mini program
[06:21] <Suzie224>  cplunsford, I need to create a script to automate a task, any task, I just chose checking the interface of a router b/c I know cisco
[06:21] <bryan> i mean i can download torrents, i think i can use an ipod now, i learned alittle about the add/remove programs thing
[06:21] <psusi> bryan: it's kind of a core belief of unix that command should simply do what they are told quickly and quietly, assuming that the user knows what they are doing and really meant what they said
[06:21] <Shadow_X> is there a commandline way of installing Ubuntu?
[06:21] <Cplunsford> felizhummel, yes, im not sure how to but you can, mine checks english and american
[06:21] <joshjosh> Shadow_X, alternate install CD i do believe
[06:21] <bryan> thx psusi
[06:21] <mjbrooks> psusi, well said
[06:21] <psusi> bryan: that way those who do know what they are doing can get things done quickly and easily
[06:22] <punkrockscks> hey bryan.. just reading a little of your conversatin w/ frantic.. this really helped me when I first started using ubuntu.. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:22] <bryan> but i dont kow what i am doing and i do not understand the way commands and languages work on linux
[06:22] <Cplunsford> I have some basic bashsci skills but as far as throwing them at a Cisco router... no clue
[06:22] <Suzie224> i can do something else, maybe more simple
[06:22] <psusi> bryan: do you feel like you have to or do you just want to learn?
[06:22] <frantic> bryan, if we get this sound thing figured out, you won't really need the terminal that much
[06:22] <Suzie224> that was just my idea b.c I am most familiary with cisc
[06:23] <bryan> thx punkrockscks
[06:23] <bryan> i have to now that i erased windows
[06:23] <Suzie224> cplunsford maybe I can simplify it by just reset the eth0 on a server
[06:23] <ogami1972> bryan- fake it until you make it- keep your data on a seperate drive and just stick with it. it's like a foreign language: eventually , you'll learn enough to get by
[06:23] <bryan> and ive wantred to know how to use unix/linux since i was 12
[06:23] <felixhummel> Cplunsford, so behaviour and behavior are both correct with your setup? how did you do this?
[06:23] <frantic> no better time than the present
[06:23] <Cplunsford> bryan, I am not to skilled on the subject eather, but a good reference I have used is the Gentoo Handbook, that can be found on the gentoo site
[06:23] <mjbrooks> bryan, and that's ok   there are plenty of point and click apps to use intead. It just is easier to explain to you how to do things using the command line here because we are limited to using text and can't draw pictures ;)
[06:23] <frantic> the present is a very special gift!!!! hahahahahahahaha :////
[06:24] <PoofDaddy> Can someone help me figure out why my wireless is not working?
[06:24] <kryptik> my Beryl Settings Manager not working  can anyone help me?
[06:24] <splinter> bryan: well if windows is already gone, cold turkey will probably get you a long ways with linux if you are willing to work at it
[06:24] <ogami1972> anyone set up boinc?
[06:24] <psusi> bryan: or you can just stick to the gui stuff... generally you can get by with the gui unless things go wrong, or you need more power... that's where the command line comes in
[06:24] <ogami1972> i agree with the 'cold turkey' thing- it's like immersion
[06:25] <Cplunsford> felixhummel, honestly, I don't know how I did it, i believe i just installed both of the aspell packages for the two langs. I apologize i really don't know how to set it up
[06:25] <frantic> bryan, do you have the terminal open still?
[06:25] <niteshade2> is there no ndiswrapper support for 7.04?
[06:25] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, what chipset?
[06:25] <splinter> bryan: i wouldnt worry about the command line stuff except for just pasting commands you find on guides for now
[06:25] <ogami1972> CLI stuff seems just kinda cool now..wget is a neat trick to show people
[06:25] <pilibeen_> i thought feisty was supposed to make wireless easy......after upgrading, it won't recognize my wireless card. the same card which dapper and edgy recognized right away.....
[06:25] <felixhummel> Cplunsford, nevertheless thanks for the hope ;)
[06:25] <bryan> frantic yes and is gui the graphical interface?
[06:25] <Cplunsford> Suzie224 you want to reset a eth0 on a server?
[06:25] <punkrockscks> poofdaddy - what wifi card are you using?
[06:25] <frantic> yes
[06:25] <Bales1> how do I change a file so it's no longer a "root" file?
[06:25] <kevsthabest> anyone got experience with a netgear wg121 in feisty?..
[06:25] <splinter> bryan: maybe a few modifications on the commands but for the most part you will be ok just copying them, as long as the guides apply to what you are trying to do
[06:25] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: i hate to ask, but how do I find that out?
[06:25] <frantic> bryan, run "alsamixer"
[06:25] <Cplunsford> suzie224, would the machine your running the script be the server or would it be remote
[06:25] <Suzie224> cplunsford, can you set a specific time in a script? Say at 8am, the script will ping eth0, and if it cannot ping will reset it
[06:25] <bryan> and i thought that linux had a full blown version of windows pretty much
[06:25] <DanaG> I have a Netgear RP614v2, and it most often REFUSES to give me an IP address.
[06:25] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, lspci -v
[06:26] <PoofDaddy> punkrockscks Crazytom: broadcom
[06:26] <Cplunsford> suzie224, you can set that with cron
[06:26] <bryan> i did that earlier, but ok brb
[06:26] <punkrockscks> yeah.. do lspci -v
[06:26] <ogami1972> um..no, linux will never have a full blown version of windows
[06:26] <splinter> bryan: well it does have a full gui, xwindows / gnome, if thats what you are thinking of
[06:26] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, bcm4306 4311 4318?
[06:26] <psusi> ogami1972: oh yea?  want to see something cooler?  I wanted to read the linux kernel mailing list... but it would overflow my pop account to subscribe, so I wrote a shell script to go to the lkml.org web site and wget each message from there, and shove them into a maildir I can access with imap
[06:26] <bryan> i meant like a copy of XP
[06:26] <frantic> also bryan, the first command you should probably learn is "rm" which deletes files.  you should learn it because it's very dangerous and does exactly what you tell it to do without asking questions
[06:26] <splinter> oh, built into it?
[06:26] <Cplunsford> cron is a task scheduler, and it will launch the script or app whenever you tell it too
[06:27] <bryan> rm
[06:27] <ogami1972> psusi: yeah, that is pretty cool
[06:27] <ahave> privet, still around?
[06:27] <sgtmattbaker> in Feisty's fstab my SATA AND my IDE DVD burner are shown as scsi devices but my SATA hard drive is shown as a sdb device.. why are they being seen wrong
[06:27] <ahave> !pastebin
[06:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:27] <frantic> so if someone tells you to run a command with rm in it, think twice
[06:27] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, what chipset?
[06:27] <Suzie224> ok
[06:27] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom punkrockscks: BCM4318
[06:27] <frantic> cuz they may be jackasses
[06:27] <splinter> bryan: no, theres stuff that will emulate windows programs, its called wine, but can be complicated, if you can get by with linux programs for now dont worry about using wine
[06:27] <ogami1972> good advice, frantic
[06:27] <bryan> ok frantic i typed it in and its up and running now what
[06:27] <privet> ahave: yup
[06:27] <crimsun> bryan: what's the problem regarding audio?
[06:27] <Cplunsford> in your terminal type : man cron for more on that
[06:27] <frantic> do you see green things under the columns?
[06:27] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: they aren't... sdb is the second scsi hard disk
[06:27] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[06:27] <punkrockscks> ok... this might work... i have a bcm4306 and it worked for me in feisty
[06:28] <bryan> i learned alittle about wine
[06:28] <punkrockscks> one min...
[06:28] <Suzie224> good idea
[06:28] <bryan> somone told me to usendiswapp
[06:28] <bryan> istead of wine
[06:28] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why "aptitude install sun-java6-jre" would present the error E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[06:28] <Crazytom> punkrockscks, fwcutter is not compatable with the 4318
[06:28] <niteshade2> punkrocks___how did you get bcm4306 to work?
[06:28] <sgtmattbaker> psusi: the burners are seen as scd0 and scd1 and the first one is SATA and the second is IDE..
[06:28] <bryan> frantic yes i think so
[06:28] <Crazytom> niteshade2, fwcutter works well with the 4306
[06:28] <Cplunsford> to get my BCM4318 to work i did- sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwripper
[06:28] <niteshade2> i have a 4309, and can get it to work, but only at about 5k
[06:28] <pilibeen_> Crazytom: where do I see what chipset?
[06:28] <bryan> numbers?
[06:28] <frantic> what does the information at the top say?
[06:28] <ahave> privet, http://rafb.net/p/lmtaEx68.html  could you help with that error?
[06:28] <Cplunsford> then sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:28] <frantic> card and chip?
[06:29] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, lspci -v
[06:29] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: yes.... sata is treated as scsi
[06:29] <bryan> [AlsaMixer v1.0.13 (Press Escape to quit)] 
[06:29] <bryan>  Card: HDA Intel                                                             
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[06:29] <bryan>  Item: Headphone
[06:29] <frantic> AH HAH!!!!!!
[06:29] <niteshade2> is there no ndiswrapper support for feisty?
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[06:29] <bryan> why doesnt that match
[06:29] <bryan> t?
[06:29] <sgtmattbaker> psusi: but IDE isn't or shouldn't
[06:29] <frantic> that's your motherboard's soundcard
[06:29] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: ohh, and I think these days so is ide... heh....
[06:29] <bryan> yeah and it doesnt work
[06:29] <frantic> uhh not sure how to switch it here
[06:29] <Arclite> I wouldn't be lucky enough for there to be a program that runs on Ubuntu that reads Apple Keynote files, is there?
[06:29] <bryan> hmm...
[06:29] <Crazytom> niteshade2, yes ndiswrapper works in feisty
[06:29] <Cplunsford> suzie224 what is your acutal assignment say?
[06:29] <guhhh> hey, whats the application that makes my desktop 3d?
[06:30] <braveheartlionXP> i found out my ip address. now how do i find out more info abotu it?
[06:30] <crimsun> bryan: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support , download and execute that shell script, and tell me the url.
[06:30] <frantic> i think you can switch it if you double click on the little speaker icon on the menubar at the top
[06:30] <srikanthssn> guhhh, beryl
[06:30] <Suzie224> Your individual course project will involve the development of a shell script that automates a UNIX/Linux system administration task.
[06:30] <punkrockscks> crazytom -my bad, didn't know that
[06:30] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: the new libata driver supports ide and sata but it's a scsi driver.... only the old plain ide driver shows up as hdx
[06:30] <privet> ahave, is your username the same on both systems?
[06:30] <Cplunsford> oh
[06:30] <frantic> bryan, got it open?
[06:30] <sgtmattbaker> psusi: I guess that makes things easier? this is only in Feisty, not edgy
[06:30] <guhhh> srikanthssn: is it the best one?
[06:30] <niteshade2> Crazytom___can you help me set it up. i got it to work in Edgy, but cant figure it out in feisty. i also can get it to work in suse, and debian, but no feisty
[06:30] <munkymunkyman> anyone know why "aptitude install sun-java6-jre" would present the error E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[06:30] <bryan> quick question to whoever else---is there a way to just right-clcik and select "new-folder" and start organizing the home file
[06:30] <munkymunkyman> anyone
[06:30] <munkymunkyman> ?
[06:30] <Suzie224> cplunsford, You must write a paper describing your shell script using a proposal format (see Project Paper Layout and Sections below). Each line making up your shell script must be clearly explained the same as if you were the shell interpreter.
[06:30] <ahave> privet, no. the win2k box has a username of Administrator
[06:31] <frantic> if you go to the File menu, the first item is Change Device, switch it to the soundcard you want
[06:31] <psusi> bryan: yea
[06:31] <srikanthssn> guhhh, there is also compiz/aiglx
[06:31] <ahave> privet, I tried using the -U flags but they gave the same error or the error of wrong login
[06:31] <bryan> ok frantic
[06:31] <Bhess> Sorry I came in late, are you trying to output sound to your headset?
[06:31] <LaszloKv> Would anyone be able to answer some questions I have about firestarter and ktorrent?
[06:31] <Crazytom> niteshade2, i don't have much time.  do you have the driver you used in windows?  also do you know what chipset it is?
[06:31] <Cplunsford> suzie224... honestly i have no clue what a shell interpreter means
[06:31] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: that is what I did.  I apparently installed it, but it doesn't work (I think).  I'm using Gnome and I am seeing the wireless networks, just can't connect.
[06:31] <privet> ahave, then add 2 things for smbclient:
[06:31] <privet> -U administrator
[06:31] <srikanthssn> guhhh, i havent tried because i dont have an adaptable graphics card.. old system.. :(
[06:31] <bryan> frantic wait back up
[06:31] <privet> also add the share name itself
[06:31] <bryan> i got the mixer window open now what
[06:31] <frantic> backup how far
[06:31] <guhhh> srikanthssn: thanks :)
[06:31] <privet> currently you only have the machine name
[06:32] <Cplunsford> does anyone have any suggestions for completing the assignment that suzie224 just posted?
[06:32] <frantic> the gui mixer program?
[06:32] <niteshade2> Crazytom__yes, i have the drivers, and i know the chipset. i can get the drivers installed but i cant get the kernel to start wrapper at boot
[06:32] <privet> so, perhaps "//machine/c$"
[06:32] <Suzie224> cplunsford, I just need to figure out a script to write for this project, it dosent have to be complicated
[06:32] <guhhh> can someone help-me to install apache 1.3 php5 module? i cant find it on repositories.
[06:32] <Bhess> bryan are you trying to output sound to your headset?
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> what is the ubuntu equivilant of glibc?
[06:32] <SJrX> Can you guys help me with Kubuntu?
[06:32] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: sorry, I notice that you dont have much time.
[06:32] <bryan> i think i did it frantic
[06:32] <niteshade2> Crazytom___i also added it to /etc/modules, and blacklisted bcm43xx in modprobe.d
[06:32] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, you ran that script on the page i gave you?
[06:32] <frantic> awesome
[06:32] <bryan> let me test it now
[06:32] <Cplunsford> how about a schedualed backup?
[06:32] <dan_> hi i just upgraded to ubuntu v7 and now im having problems with fglrx driver =/
[06:32] <eldelaginga> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:32] <comodo> can someone help me every time i try to transfer a file with gftp i get an error that says somehting like unnable to open file desktop/downloads access is denied
[06:32] <SJrX> I'm trying to change my resolution but it doesn't seem to be working
[06:32] <eldelaginga> alguien de chile
[06:32] <eldelaginga> ???????
[06:33] <PoofDaddy> CrazytomL that had been done the other day.
[06:33] <Ademan> do we still hafta go through seveas or something to get libdvdcss2?
[06:33] <Suzie224> that works
[06:33] <bryan> nope no sound
[06:33] <eldelaginga> alguien de chileeeeee
[06:33] <eldelaginga> chileeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:33] <crimsun> bryan: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support , download and execute that shell script, and tell me the url.
[06:33] <frantic> how did you test it?
[06:33] <dan_> my xorg.0.log says
[06:33] <eldelaginga> chileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:33] <dan_> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0
[06:33] <dan_> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 7.1.0.0
[06:33] <sgtmattbaker> psusi: why does IDE show up as scsi now in the new Linux kernels?
[06:33] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: that I did when I installed Feisty.
[06:33] <eldelaginga> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:33] <eldelaginga> ???????????????
[06:33] <dan_> but X -version shows 7.2.0
[06:33] <eldelaginga> hi???????????????????????
[06:33] <pilibeen_> Crazytom: I see a Linksys unknown device.....Realtek chipset? does that sound right? the model of the card is WPC11
[06:33] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: because it is using the libata driver which is a scsi driver supporting both ide and sata
[06:34] <bryan> frantic i did it then i re-typed alsamixer and it still says the realtek thing
[06:34] <bryan> crimsum ok i willdo it now
[06:34] <frantic> hmm
[06:34] <sgtmattbaker> psusi: is that in newer kernels?
[06:34] <tristil> SJrX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, should be something like rt71 or another number
[06:34] <psusi> sgtmattbaker: yes
[06:34] <Cplunsford> suzie224 i think this will have all you need http://www.xs4all.nl/~voorburg/backup.html
[06:34] <frantic> oh, try right clicking on the speaker applet and going to preferences
[06:34] <bryan> crimsum http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support
[06:34] <ahave> privet, what is 'sharename'
[06:34] <bryan> crimsum i do not understand what that page means you sent me to
[06:34] <crimsun> bryan: yes, go to that web page, then download and execute the alsa-info.sh script.
[06:34] <eldelaginga> alvarezp??????''holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:35] <niteshade2> Crazytom_____is there another place i need to add ndiswrapper to other than /etc/modules?
[06:35] <DanaG> Oh, crimsun, since you're here anyway:
[06:35] <pilibeen_> Crazytom: RTL8180L
[06:35] <ahave> privet, http://rafb.net/p/nDuTDV14.html still getting it..
[06:35] <Crazytom> niteshade2, do lsmod and make sure ndiswrapper is listed there
[06:35] <tristil> SJrX, and use medium method for selecting your monitor refresh.
[06:35] <frantic> crimsun we've already identified his sound card and driver
[06:35] <anpi> does anyone know how to set x dpi manually?
[06:35] <sgtmattbaker> I am using azureus and trying to download sabayon from linuxtracker.org.. I am getting Tracker error 3
[06:35] <alvarezp> hola, eldelaginga
[06:35] <crimsun> frantic: I know that.
[06:35] <Cplunsford> suzie224 i would suggest even making the tutorial simpler by skipping the SQL stuff
[06:35] <DanaG> do you know why I can't seem to make my .asoundrc do dmix -> upmix (route) -> ladspa -> plug:surround51;1 ?
[06:35] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, you say that you have the driver and you've installed ndiswrapper?
[06:35] <Suzie224> thanks cplunsford
[06:35] <Suzie224> so tired
[06:35] <DanaG> oh, and dvdcss is now on
[06:35] <eldelaginga> hola alvares
[06:35] <anpi> i actually found about three ways to change it but none of them work for me
[06:35] <Bhess> need sleep...
[06:35] <DanaG> !medibuntu
[06:36] <niteshade2> Crazytom___im actually running debian right now cause i had to have wireless, but i would like to go back to ubuntu!!!
[06:36] <eldelaginga> oye
[06:36] <eldelaginga> soy chileno no me pesca nadie aki
[06:36] <eldelaginga> ja
[06:36] <eldelaginga> soy nuevo en linux
[06:36] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:36] <crimsun> DanaG: question lacks info.
[06:36] <DanaG> ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1462:(_snd_pcm_direct_get_slave_ipc_offset) Invalid type 'multi' for slave PCM
[06:36] <DanaG> aplay: main:550: audio open error: Invalid argument
[06:36] <Cplunsford> suzie224 me too, now i got to study for my notevencollege level math but i will stick around, and the people here will definatly be able to help you
[06:36] <frantic> bryan
[06:36] <pilibeen_> Crazytom: no, i havent done either. I was just wondering why it wasnt recognized automatically as it was last time.
[06:36] <dan_> Xorg -version also shows 7.2.0
[06:36] <crimsun> DanaG: you don't seem to have provided all the parameters.
[06:36] <alvarezp> eldelaginga: vmonos a #ubuntu-es, ahi hablamos espanol
[06:36] <Suzie224> thanks
[06:36] <Crazytom> wow i have to leave in two minutes
[06:36] <DanaG> aah.
[06:37] <dan_> so why is fglrx detecting it as 7.1.0.0?
[06:37] <dan_> :<
[06:37] <frantic> bryan right click on the speaker applet icon and open preferences
[06:37] <DanaG> I'll post my .asoundrc.
[06:37] <niteshade2> Crazytom_____but it looks like it is not loading the module
[06:37] <bryan> frantic i am confused
[06:37] <eldelaginga> pero donde hago eso no cacho
[06:37] <bryan> ok frantic
[06:37] <crimsun> bryan: have you executed that alsa-info.sh script yet?
[06:37] <niteshade2> Crazytom_____sorry about this, thanks for your help. ill figure it out sometime.
[06:37] <Crazytom> niteshade2, try modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:37] <bryan> i did it frantic
[06:37] <alvarezp> eldelaginga:  intenta escribir /join #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <bryan> crimsum
[06:37] <balc> how do i see my ignore list in irc?
[06:37] <niteshade2> Crazytom___ive done it and still no iwlist
[06:37] <frantic> you may be able to switch the sound card there
[06:37] <crimsun> bryan: what's the URL that it generated?
[06:37] <bryan> i do not know how to download anything on that page its just links to stuff
[06:38] <psusi> balc: /ignore
[06:38] <privet> ahave, that is the name of the directory that you shared on the win2k box
[06:38] <eldelaginga> join el gato no me sale como lo haces en tu teclado
[06:38] <eldelaginga> ??
[06:38] <ahave> privet, I have the entire drive sharred..
[06:38] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper and then just do sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf or use the -e flag to uninstall other drivers
[06:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | eldelaginga
[06:38] <ubotu> eldelaginga: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:38] <crimsun> bryan: wget http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[06:38] <alvarezp> eldelaginga:  Shift + 3
[06:38] <bryan> i di ti, now lets see if it works... frantic
[06:38] <privet> ahave, as what?
[06:38] <alvarezp> (en el chileno no s cmo sea)
[06:38] <eldelaginga> 
[06:38] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette
[06:38] <syke> my bcm43xx card in my laptop was working great, but we got a new base station and now it doesn't work any more. iwlist can see the AP, but I can't seem to associate. everything works fine in windows. any ideas?
[06:38] <privet> you should be able to "//machihe/c$"
[06:38] <Crazytom> niteshade2, you did use sudo right?
[06:38] <eldelaginga> ME SALEN PUROS PUNTITOS
[06:38] <dan_> i updated to latest fglrx version using envy but it didnt help at all
[06:38] <DanaG> there's an index; .asoundrc is there.
[06:38] <ahave> privet, NTFS drive called Media
[06:38] <bryan> frantic i changed it but it will not wrk
[06:38] <niteshade2> Crazytom____yes
[06:39] <eldelaginga> ubuntu-es
[06:39] <scarter> does bcm43xx support 54mb?
[06:39] <frantic> hmph
[06:39] <alvarezp> Espera
[06:39] <syke> it's almost like the radio firmware loaded up by fwcutter is older/buggier than the one the windows drivers load up
[06:39] <crimsun> bryan: I need the output from alsa-info.sh (http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh)
[06:39] <eldelaginga> ok
[06:39] <bryan> ok crimsum i went to that last link
[06:39] <syke> scarter: I've seen it work
[06:39] <bryan> downloaded it and opened with lesser(default)
[06:39] <dan_> ._.
[06:39] <ahave> privet, wait nvm its share name is E$
[06:39] <syke> scarter: but only with certain APs, which is my current problem
[06:39] <crimsun> bryan: download that script, save it, run it, and tell me the URL.
[06:39] <bryan> how do i run it?
[06:39] <privet> ahave, aha: then try that
[06:40] <niteshade2> Crazytom____Thanks, ive gotta run too. have a good night
[06:40] <crimsun> bryan: ./alsa-info.sh
[06:40] <scarter> syke: i'm on 7.04 amd64... can you point me to some useful docs... i'm at my wits end with google. thanks
[06:40] <crimsun> bryan: (type that in a Terminal)
[06:40] <eldelaginga> solo kiero saber como instalo amarok???????
[06:40] <ahave> privet, sweet. it gives me a smb prompt now!!
[06:40] <Crazytom> niteshade2, u too
[06:40] <ahave> privet, now what? :p
[06:40] <eldelaginga> como instalo amarooooook?????'
[06:40] <eldelaginga> como instalo beryl??????????????????
[06:40] <syke> scarter: there's a Wireless FAQ
[06:40] <privet> ahave, congrats!
[06:40] <bintrue|work> Anyone know where I can find a workspace manager for xfce4 ? I used to have it on my xbuntu6.04 install but not on my new 7.04 install
[06:40] <syke> it didn't help me much, though :(
[06:40] <privet> now you know the params to connect
[06:40] <privet> you are now in a "samba prompt"
[06:41] <bryan> says no such file or directory
[06:41] <syke> I paid Canonical for support, I guess I'll have to go through my support rep
[06:41] <scarter> syke: i've got 2 diff APs, one linksys and one d-link... either of them promising from your experience?
[06:41] <privet> you can do stuff like "dir"
[06:41] <bryan> crimsum
[06:41] <privet> "get"
[06:41] <privet> "put"
[06:41] <Crazytom> pilibeen_, you could try seeing if the livecd feisty will auto recognize it?  did you upgrade or install fresh?
[06:41] <bryan> frantic ???
[06:41] <crimsun> bryan: where did you save it?
[06:41] <frantic> yeah?
[06:41] <bryan> i dont know
[06:41] <privet> ahave, also "cd somedir" etc.
[06:41] <bryan> wherever it gets saved
[06:41] <Madpilot> eldelaginga, /join #ubuntu-es
[06:41] <bryan> i got 5 more minutes
[06:41] <ahave> privet, sweet. now how can i make it so that linux apps can access this drive. i guess it is called 'mount'
[06:41] <bryan> then i got to go
[06:41] <syke> scarter: it seems to depend how old it is
[06:41] <privet> ahave, "exit/quit" will take you out again
[06:41] <crimsun> bryan: where does Firefox say it was saved?
[06:42] <crimsun> bryan: (see the Downloads window)
[06:42] <DanaG> Oh yay, and now Amarok crashed.
[06:42] <privet> ahave, exactly
[06:42] <syke> scarter: the one I had luck with was a netgear that's 2 years old
[06:42] <DanaG> It crashes saying something about assertion failed: sample not empty.
[06:42] <privet> ahave, mount -t smbfs.... with the same params you used with smbclient
[06:42] <bryan> i closed that window
[06:42] <violator_> hey guys
[06:42] <crimsun> bryan: then redownload that script
[06:42] <scarter> syke: wrt54gs and di-624, both are probably 3 yrs
[06:42] <syke> scarter: they may work fine
[06:42] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, did you do the part for ndiswrapper on edgy and feisty or the part for feisty with the bcm43xx?
[06:43] <privet> ahave, then you can put it into /etc/fstab so that it is mounted every time during startup
[06:43] <bamb1e> everytime i sign in my msn thru gaim and the window just dissapers?
[06:43] <bryan> to the desktop
[06:43] <tbuss> I'm thinking about using no-ip to assign a name for my server. should I assign the name to the 192. ip or my public ip
[06:43] <Bhess> Its prob on his desktop crimsun
[06:43] <bryan> now what
[06:43] <DanaG> I need to be able to dmix my upmix.
[06:43] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: just the part for Feisty
[06:43] <DanaG> Wow, that sounds kinda' catchy.
[06:43] <alvarezp> eldelaginga: Intenta darle copy+paste a "  /join #ubuntu-es  ". Puedes intentar seleccionar el texto y luego pegarlo con el botn de enmedio, y dale enter.
[06:43] <scarter> syke: i'll check to FAQ to see what some tweaks might be to jump out of 11mb into 54mb. thanks
[06:43] <john_the_unique> i'm trying to get away from the ubuntu brown theme
[06:43] <crimsun> bryan: open a Terminal (Applications> Accessories> Terminal)
[06:43] <john_the_unique> i've got it fixed mostly
[06:43] <bryan> ok
[06:43] <syke> scarter: you've got it connected, which is better than me :(
[06:43] <bryan> im there'
[06:43] <crimsun> bryan: then type: ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[06:43] <syke> it's weird, iwlist scanning shows it
[06:43] <john_the_unique> just can't seem to get rid of this brown background that flashes on during log-ins and outs
[06:43] <syke> but it just can't associate
[06:43] <glgu1> I just upgraded to 7.04 and my button widgets get corrupted (graphically) is this a common issue for having upgraded
[06:44] <jason_123> i still cant get divx movies to play in browser help plz
[06:44] <syke> very frustrating :(
[06:44] <violator_> how to install beryl on ubuntu?
[06:44] <frantic> no, "bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh"
[06:44] <joshjosh> my ipod doesn't register when i plug it in after boot...before boot is fine. How can I make this work after boot?
[06:44] <Suzie224> cplunsford, thanks for your help. I think I am going to take less points and finish tomorrow. I am worn out. :-(
[06:44] <bryan> crimsum bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[06:44] <bryan> bash: /home/bryan/Desktop/alsa-info.sh: Permission denied
[06:44] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:44] <tbuss> violator: ati of nvidia
[06:44] <Suzie224> its due at 2am
[06:44] <Faentur> Yeah, John, I'd like to get rid of the human theme there too
[06:44] <joshjosh> violator_, got your video drivers install?
[06:44] <Crazytom> PoofDaddy, use the script for ndiswrapper on feisty, it's in the second part.  that script has saved a few people. it will do pretty much everything for you.  good luck cause i need to sleep
[06:44] <frantic> bryan, "bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh"
[06:44] <violator_> nvidia
[06:44] <crimsun> bryan: bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[06:44] <scarter> syke: i had to enable b/g on the di-624 before it would connect. i do have my ssid 'off' and i'm using wpa2, which both worked fine right away...
[06:44] <DanaG> john_the_unique: try gdmsetup (admin -> login manager)
[06:44] <DanaG> change the theme.
[06:45] <joshjosh> violator_, sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager beryl-core emerald emerald-themes
[06:45] <bryan> ok good i think
[06:45] <syke> hm, maybe that's what I need to do as well -- turn on b/g
[06:45] <joshjosh> violator_, that should work. then just beryl-manager to launch it
[06:45] <Cplunsford> suzie224 call me so me time
[06:45] <syke> I try to keep it at g-only
[06:45] <MarcErickson> hi, anyone knows if feisty fawn includes the mp3 codecs, i can't play my songs on songbird
[06:45] <john_the_unique> DanaG, I did, but I'll try some other ones to see if it makes any difference
[06:45] <syke> in fact, that may be why you're only seeing 11mb/s
[06:45] <bryan> Uploading information to www.pastebin.ca ...  Done!
[06:45] <bryan> Your ALSA information is located at http://pastebin.ca/455379
[06:45] <bryan> Please inform the person helping you.
[06:45] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:45] <Suzie224> see ya cplunsford
[06:45] <Faentur> DanaG: I've done that: keeps the same brown screen at login
[06:45] <joshjosh> MarcErickson, you have to dl them seperately
[06:45] <DanaG> Odd.
[06:45] <PoofDaddy> Crazytom: thank you
[06:45] <refefer> hey guys, anyone have experience mounting samba shares
[06:45] <bryan> crimsum is that what you needed
[06:45] <crimsun> bryan: yes, wait, please.
[06:45] <DanaG> It may be a Nautilus setting, too.
[06:45] <john_the_unique> feisty is pretty cool about alerting you when it has things available
[06:45] <Faentur> OH!  I didn't think of gconf-editor
[06:46] <tbuss> when assigning a dns name for my server, should I use my public IP or use the the 192.x.x.x
[06:46] <DanaG> How can I change the gnomevfs timeout?
[06:46] <Faentur> Although I don't know that nautilus has any control over gdm-greeter
[06:46] <scarter> syke: the biggest issue was finding a firmware that would function properly. i have a cpq notebook but ended up using a dell v3.100.64 driver to cut the fw.
[06:46] <crimsun> bryan: are you trying to use your audigy or your onboard High Definition Audio (HDA) audio chipset?
[06:46] <snollux> When does Ubuntu Lazy Lemming come out?
[06:46] <fizzmahon> anyone farmiliar with kopete?
[06:46] <bryan> audigy
[06:46] <DanaG> I want to use an SSH server on desktop, but it's slow so gnome-vfs times out and Nautilus dislikes it.
[06:46] <frantic> audigy
[06:46] <bryan> thx frantic
[06:46] <AaronMT> Ubuntu is making my laptop fan run constantly why is this? With windows it would spin down when idle
[06:46] <violator_> how to autostart beryl once it's installed?
[06:46] <DanaG> If you want only one sound card, there's an easy solution:
[06:46] <DanaG> blacklist the other one.
[06:47] <glguy_> My corruption issue only occurs with the default theme, but not Mist, for example
[06:47] <ahave> privet, http://rafb.net/p/zEGeLp24.html not working..
[06:47] <bryan> frantic thx for all your help in all this, i wish i would have learned more b4 doing this to myself and you guys
[06:47] <joshjosh> violator_, add beryl-manager to system>preferences>sessions
[06:47] <refefer> hey guys, anyone have experience mounting samba shares?
[06:47] <crimsun> bryan: type this:  asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2
[06:47] <bamb1e> guys i'm having trouble with Gaim
[06:47] <ahave> privet, can you take a look?
[06:47] <tbuss> violator: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty has some good info on beryl
[06:47] <bamb1e> it just disappers after signing in.
[06:47] <syke> scarter: hm, maybe I should try that
[06:47] <ouroboros> hello all!  :)
[06:47] <frantic> bryan, you'll learn fast this way
[06:47] <violator_> how to do that? sorry i'm new to linux
[06:47] <syke> fw-cutter didn't recognize the latest Dell driver I tried
[06:47] <scarter> syke: i've got one of the bcm4306 rev3 nightmares
[06:47] <syke> I'm not sure what I have exactly
[06:47] <MarcErickson> joshjosh, thank you very much
[06:47] <syke> I was so, so happy to finally have working wireless with Feisty
[06:47] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ asoundconf set-default-card audigy2
[06:47] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:48] <tbuss> violator_: how to do what?
[06:48] <joshjosh> MarcErickson, no problem buddy
[06:48] <frantic> sucksess
[06:48] <syke> it's really upsetting that upgrading my AP unfixed it
[06:48] <bryan> yes?!?!?
[06:48] <violator_> add beryl manager to session
[06:48] <joshjosh> MarcErickson, I'm an infinite solutions fan
[06:48] <crimsun> bryan: please log out of gnome and back in
[06:48] <bryan> still no sound
[06:48] <bryan> what is gnome the OS?
[06:48] <DanaG> desktop environment.
[06:48] <tbuss> violator_: follow the link I put out there, has a step by step how-to
[06:49] <crimsun> bryan: it's the graphical environment. Click the red power button in the upper right corner; choose log out.
[06:49] <bryan> i installed a video card driver earlier successfully im scared
[06:49] <bryan> ok brb
[06:49] <tbuss> violator_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:49] <violator_> thanks
[06:49] <task0> hello all, is ok if i don't set the swap on a extended partition?
[06:49] <platman> violator: system/preferences/sessions/startup programs -- add new entry for beryl-manager
[06:49] <yharrow_mobile> how do I monitor key press events?
[06:49] <glguy_> ok, any easier question, what is the default ubuntu gnome theme? Human? (7.04)
[06:49] <yharrow_mobile> anyone know?
[06:49] <joshjosh> glguy_, yep
[06:49] <tbuss> violator_: ^ f  and type beryle when the page loads
[06:50] <bamb1e> can anyone help me please?
[06:50] <yharrow_mobile> tbuss: beryl*
[06:50] <task0> some1?
[06:50] <violator_> does ubuntu have a video editor?
[06:50] <binMonkey> irssi question here.
[06:51] <bryan> ok ok ok lets see
[06:51] <yharrow_mobile> violator yes
[06:51] <yharrow_mobile> violator there are 2 that I know of
[06:51] <tbuss> yharrow_mobile: whatever
[06:51] <violator_> where can I get it?
[06:51] <platman> violator: if you want to edit avi's try avidemux
[06:51] <task0> is ok if i don't set the swap on a extended partition?
[06:51] <DanaG> Or a GTK Polyester.
[06:51] <yharrow_mobile> tbuss,  I know what you meant, but some ppl will take typos literally
[06:51] <MarcErickson> to anyone, what html editor do you recomend for ubuntu?
[06:51] <binMonkey> what does +ei after my nickname mean?
[06:51] <glguy_> joshjosh: would you happene to know what the default ubuntu gnome control set uses to render itself? (gif png or something)
[06:51] <bryan> hello crimsum
[06:51] <bryan> ??
[06:52] <crimsun> bryan: yes?
[06:52] <bryan> ok now what do i do
[06:52] <tbuss> yharrow_mobile: I was being sarcastic, I know I can't type :)
[06:52] <crimsun> bryan: try playing some music
[06:52] <glguy_> joshjosh: I'm just trying to figure out what is causing the graphic corruption
[06:52] <bryan> i logged off then it asked me for my name and pass and now i am back
[06:52] <yharrow_mobile> tbuss: hehe oh ok :D
[06:52] <joshjosh> glguy_, no idea
[06:52] <tbuss> yharrow_mobile: good point though
[06:52] <bryan> i tried playing family guy with VLC and nothing
[06:52] <bryan> its a torrent
[06:53] <yharrow_mobile> tbuss: I only know that because when I was a noob I made so many mistakes because of typos
[06:53] <violator_> does ubuntu supports my Pinnacle PCTV?
[06:53] <bryan> i see it b ut no happy singing
[06:53] <crimsun> bryan: open a Terminal, and in it type:  ``amixer''  . Take the output from that command and paste it onto the http://pastebin.ca web site, then tell me the URL.
[06:53] <scarter> syke: initially, i didn't realize that bcm43xx doesn't support v4.xxx.xx properly, so you've got to find v3.xxx.xx drivers to cut
[06:53] <binMonkey> is this the right place to ask irssi questions?
[06:53] <yharrow_mobile> violator_: Im gonna try and get the names of the vid editors, one sec
[06:53] <tbuss> yharrow_mobile: I wish I could say the same, I'm not quite out of noobdom yet :D
[06:53] <bryan> no such
[06:53] <syke> scarter: crap. ok.
[06:53] <squiggity> Hi, can anyone help me with getting laptop hotkeys working properly?
[06:54] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$ amixer
[06:54] <bryan> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such devic
[06:54] <syke> scarter: how do I found out the exact rev I have?
[06:54] <task0> please colud some one help me partitioning my disk?
[06:54] <ouroboros> So I am having a hell of a time getting tomcat working under feisty... anyone had the pleasure?
[06:54] <ahave> privet, any ideas?
[06:54] <tbuss> when assigning a name to my server, should I assign it to the public IP or the actual IP of the server?
[06:54] <crimsun> bryan: you made a typo
[06:54] <crimsun> bryan: that capital 'A' in the Audigy2 is /extremely/ important
[06:54] <bryan> http://pastebin.ca/455385
[06:55] <crimsun> bryan: type this:  asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2
[06:55] <bryan> ooohhh
[06:55] <bryan> damn
[06:55] <scarter> syke: dell and hp/cpq list the versions, so i didn't have an issue finding one of their older listings
[06:55] <binMonkey> i tried rtfm but it's a little difficult.
[06:55] <dan_> any ideas friends?
[06:55] <yharrow_mobile> violator_: there is kino, which a basic video editor and there cinelerra which is more complex and powerful. There might be others but I am not familiar with them
[06:55] <Tarkus> anyone know if theres a similar open-source app for linux like apples "Final Cut Pro" or adobe's "Premiere"?
[06:55] <bryan> ryan@bryan-desktop:~$ asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2
[06:55] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:56] <saviles> using cygwin, if i ssh into a xubuntu box, how can i display that system's 'xclock'?
[06:56] <dan_> no ideas? oh well thanks anyway
[06:56] <crimsun> bryan: yes.  Now in that Terminal, paste this, and tell me if it's audible:  aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[06:56] <bryan> now log off and back in again?
[06:56] <scarter> syke: the one i pulled from dell was for a truemobile 1350
[06:56] <jason_123> why isnt divx movies playing in browser
[06:56] <yharrow_mobile> dan_:  hold on a sec
[06:56] <diabolikmachine> is there a guid to installing ubuntu on xfs?
[06:56] <syke> saviles: you have to install cygwin/X (using cygwin's setup.exe), make sure the X server is started, and then ssh into the ubuntu machine using 'ssh -X'
[06:56] <syke> then you can run any X command
[06:57] <syke> I recommend also supplying '-C' to ssh to enable compression
[06:57] <yharrow_mobile> dan_: what was your question?
[06:57] <bryan> ryan@bryan-desktop:~$ aplay/usr/share/sounds/*up.wave
[06:57] <bryan> bash: aplay/usr/share/sounds/*up.wave: No such file or directory
[06:57] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:57] <saviles> syke: i do have cygwin's base X installation.
[06:57] <digi_> in ubuntu 6.10 im trying to write a bash script with command line variables without success. how can I have command line arguments?
[06:57] <syke> if you're over a WAN link
[06:57] <digi_> variable = arguments
[06:57] <syke> scarter: a truemobile 1350 is what I have
[06:57] <dan_> im having problems with the fglrx driver detecting the wrong version of X
[06:57] <crimsun> bryan: you made another typo. There's a space between the aplay and the /usr/share/...
[06:57] <yharrow_mobile> How do I monitor keypresses?
[06:57] <dan_> and therefore not initializing its dri interface
[06:57] <crimsun> bryan: and it's precisely .wav, not .wave
[06:57] <diabolikmachine> digi_: arg1=$1, arg2=$2, etc.
[06:57] <yharrow_mobile> its fairly simple. I just cant remmember the command
[06:57] <scarter> syke: well... isn't that handy ;-)
[06:57] <bryan> yan@bryan-desktop:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wave
[06:57] <bryan> /usr/share/sounds/*up.wave: No such file or directory
[06:57] <bryan> bryan@bryan-desktop:~$
[06:58] <DanaG> Yay, Amarok crashed again.
[06:58] <diabolikmachine> yharrow_mobile: xev
[06:58] <crimsun> bryan: I'm giving you precise commands to copy and paste into the terminal. Perhaps you'd better just copy and paste them instead of typing them.
[06:58] <bryan> it plays!!!!!
[06:58] <dan_> this is from my xorg.0.log:
[06:58] <dan_> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0
[06:58] <dan_> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 7.1.0.0
[06:58] <josh__> anyone having any issues with hard drives that now are sata
[06:58] <bryan> i dont know how to copy in xchat
[06:58] <yharrow_mobile> diabolikmachine: thanks a ton
[06:58] <Bhess> Woot Right on Bryan!
[06:58] <DanaG> I really need to get dmix working with the .asoundrc.
[06:58] <dan_> but my x.org is v7.2.0
[06:58] <saviles> syke: wow! that was easy! i was thinking i had to 'export' the DISPLAY variable
[06:58] <bryan> thx bhess crimsum all my fans
[06:58] <DanaG> http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/.asoundrc
[06:58] <Ayabara> I'm trying to connect to work with Cisco VPN. I have installed it (seemingly without problems), but when I try to connect to the profile it gives up for no good reason. the dump is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17350/ . Can someone please help me get this working.
[06:58] <ahave> can someone help me with mounting a smbfs drive?
[06:58] <syke> nope, ssh -X is majikal :)
[06:58] <saviles> syke: to my current IP, or something similar.
[06:59] <diabolikmachine> so... is installing ubuntu to xfs unsupported?
[06:59] <crdlb> dan_, did you upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[06:59] <dan_> yea
[06:59] <bryan> but VLC still will not play family guy
[06:59] <crimsun> bryan: select by holding down and dragging the primary mouse button; paste by pressing the middle mouse button (or left+right together)
[06:59] <crdlb> dan_, and did you use xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[06:59] <crimsun> bryan: did you close and reopen vlc?
[06:59] <dan_> i had it uninstalled before the upgrade
[06:59] <dan_> then reinstalled it afterwards
[06:59] <syke> saviles: Cygwin/X can be a little unstable. I can still kill it by starting nunit-gui under mono over remote X
[06:59] <jarrod_> Hi all, I just installed Feisty... but when it loads up for the first time, X wont start and gives the error: "Failed to load module "nvidia (module does not exist)", any ideas?
[06:59] <Lynoure> Any other Palm users here? It seem something has changed between pre-beta feisty and released feisty to stop Treo from being synched, the visor module does not even load but the device gets noticed. Is that then hotplug problem, or kernel problem?
[07:00] <hatter> Remote Desktop Client on FEisty Fawn keeps dropping out from a second to minutes after connecting to a remote windows box, it doesnt drop out on my laptop (winXP) at all, anyone else experience this ?
[07:00] <Jh00> jarrod_, I had the same problem today at work
[07:00] <bryan> YES!!!!right the phuk on
[07:00] <saviles> syke: over my head. :) but i think i get what you mean.
[07:00] <crimsun> Lynoure: it's not hotplug. That went away as of Dapper.
[07:00] <Bhess> You prob need the right codex for it bryan, fast way to get them is to seach for automatrix and install it :)
[07:00] <Jh00> jarrod_, I thought that maybe I had a defective CD and was willing to try again tomorrow.
[07:00] <bryan> everything seems to work now
[07:00] <frantic> bryan
[07:01] <frantic> don't install automatix
[07:01] <diabolikmachine> jarrod_: do a command line login, and run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[07:01] <bryan> now all i need is to nkow everything
[07:01] <frantic> it's for idiots
[07:01] <bryan> frantic
[07:01] <platman> nobody should install automatix
[07:01] <bryan> ok why?
[07:01] <frantic> it breaks things
[07:01] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, do you know if this was already reported in launchpad?
[07:01] <DanaG> !medibuntu
[07:01] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:01] <DanaG> use THAT!
[07:01] <bryan> really?
[07:01] <Lynoure> crimsun: kernel does all that itself now?
[07:01] <platman> medibuntu is like magic
[07:01] <crimsun> Lynoure: with udev.
[07:01] <diabolikmachine> Jh00: he probably tried to enable desktop effects on the live cd.
[07:01] <frantic> when they release the next version of ubuntu, all teh people who used automatix will have problems
[07:02] <Lynoure> crimsun: Well, at least it is always fun to report kernel bugs :)
[07:02] <Geoffrey2> has anyone in here ever built Busybox?
[07:02] <bryan> so are there any special programs to help me get going like firestarter, is it the best firewall? do i relly not need any antivirus progs?
[07:02] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, hmmm... yes, in fact, I think that that happened as well at my work (I wasnt the one to install)
[07:02] <Bhess> Next version.. Ill wipe and reinstall again.. not like its winblows
[07:02] <Ayabara> this is not good "cisco_ipsec: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel." ?
[07:02] <Lynoure> Between this and the SD slot not working, the Palm is currently not even getting proper backups...
[07:02] <frantic> bryan, you don't need a firewall or antivirus
[07:02] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, do you think it would be worthy to report it, anyway?
[07:02] <frantic> especially no antivirus
[07:02] <bryan> ok
[07:03] <jarrod_> diabolikmachine: well what do ya know. it worked. not sure why it wasn't installed automatically
[07:03] <bryan> rad!
[07:03] <crimsun> Lynoure: have you actually determined it's a kernel issue? Have you verified hal sees it?
[07:03] <platman> lol it's always funny when you tell windows converts they dont need antivirus stuff
[07:03] <jarrod_> diabolikmachine: thanks, now i gotta try to get dual monitors to work, but ive found some guides on it
[07:03] <bryan> what about gam,es
[07:03] <cappicard> anyone successfully gotten java to run on 64-bit firefox or would i need to resort to 32-bit in the interim?
[07:03] <Yossy> So, i'm a new linux convert. I've partitioned off my HDD and i now have a Linux Swap and a Linux ext3 partition, when i'm installing i choose the ext3 and it says that i have no root file system defined, what do i do?
[07:03] <bryan> like oblivion?
[07:03] <diabolikmachine> jarrod_: did that work?
[07:03] <bryan> or anyhting cool
[07:03] <frantic> some things work well in wine, some don't
[07:03] <jarrod_> diabolikmachine: yep. it started just fine (except only on 1 monitor, which is fine for now)
[07:04] <bryan> oh isee
[07:04] <platman> yossy: you actually have to label your root partiotion
[07:04] <hatter> if i use lspci to see the pci cards, how do i get info for the video card on the mobo ?
[07:04] <diabolikmachine> jarrod_: cool.
[07:04] <platman> with this "/"
[07:04] <jarrod_> diabolikmachine: thanks again!
[07:04] <frantic> bryan what kind of graphics card do you have
[07:04] <ahave> can someone help me with mounting a smbfs drive?
[07:04] <jijutm> yossy: you gotta select the mount point atleast in the installation
[07:04] <frantic> ati or nvidia
[07:04] <bryan> ATI
[07:04] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, I think I will fill out a bug form about that, just so people knows the answer...
[07:04] <jason_123> i guess no help i try find the answer some where else
[07:04] <bryan> kinda older like more than a year mid range model
[07:05] <bryan> why whats up?
[07:05] <bryan> it says i need to reboot for that setting to take place
[07:05] <bryan> for the ATI card
[07:05] <diabolikmachine> i feel special that i know enough about ubuntu to help now.. altho slackware will always hold a place in my heart.
[07:05] <frantic> oooooh :/
[07:05] <frantic> ati's linux support is bad
[07:05] <frantic> i'd give it a D-
[07:05] <diabolikmachine> Jh00: yeah.. basically if you try to enable desktop effects on the live cd, it changes the xorg config to use the binary driver without installing it to the disk.
[07:05] <platman> frantic: "Ati's support is bad"
[07:05] <Bhess> ati has linus support? lol
[07:05] <frantic> haha yeah
[07:05] <Hatty> I have an enhanced cd that I want to rip. It's Garbage's 'beautifulgarbage'. Grip doesn't see the cd at all. What can I do? (it mounted to /media/BEAUTIFUL_GARBAGE_PC which contains autorun.inf and setup.exe).
[07:05] <Ayabara> anyone? do I need to configure some network stuff in feisty for vpn to work?
[07:05] <dan_> i even ran through the envy program to try and update the fglrx driver to latest version
[07:05] <hatter> stinking ati dueal head card 9200. I was unable to get screen spanning working, it would only clone the display
[07:05] <dan_> but it still has the same problem
[07:05] <diabolikmachine> so.. is there a way to use lilo at install time?
[07:06] <bryan> well it said it had a driver update for me automatically so i did it
[07:06] <bryan> and now i have to restart the comp to get it working
[07:06] <galo_PT> i'm having suspend problems... i've been using feisty for some time when it was in beta and i wouldn't have wireless after waking up, but now X won't even wake up right , anyone got any ideas ?
[07:06] <bryan> but if there are no good games for linux then what does it matter how good my card is
[07:06] <Yossy> platman: what do you mean use / ?
[07:06] <diabolikmachine> galo_PT: are you using ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <anpi> argh, is there any way to force the x dpi?
[07:07] <zachwlewis> !mouse
[07:07] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:07] <galo_PT> no, i use the ipw3945 driver
[07:07] <bryan> frantic ?
[07:07] <frantic> yes?
[07:07] <dan_> (@ crdlb )
[07:07] <fnf> Does anyone know a reliable way to put the whole Ubuntu LiveCD/server CD onto a USB stick ?. I've tried several tutorials but no luck.
[07:07] <diabolikmachine> galo_PT: oh.. my wireless craps out after waking up as well.. but i use ndiswrapper.
[07:07] <bryan> oh i asked what does it really matter, i mean does it?
[07:07] <frantic> oh, bryan, you might have better luck with wine with nvidia
[07:07] <platman> yossy: that is the location of your root partition, so in the partition editor you must label your desired root partition with /
[07:08] <frantic> also there are some decent FPSes and some companies do make linux clients
[07:08] <Bhess> you can run prob 98% of winblows games in wine
[07:08] <bryan> oh i see
[07:08] <underwatercow> Can someone please help me with playing a DVD in ubuntu? I should be easy, and yet for some reason I cannot seem to get one to play correctly no matter what I do.
[07:08] <Yossy> So, i'm a new linux convert. I've partitioned off my HDD and i now have a Linux Swap and a Linux ext3 partition, when i'm installing i choose the ext3 and it says that i have no root file system defined, i was told to use the "/" but me being new to alot of this has no idea what that means, any help?
[07:08] <bryan> but on XP i had to mount the image to a virtual drive to get oblivion running, i dont like to pay for things
[07:08] <fnf> underwatercow: plug your DVD into the drive, totem should appear and there you go.
[07:08] <yell0w> Yossy, / is the linux root, kind of like C:\
[07:08] <DanaG> underwatercow:
[07:08] <bryan> i gotta go guys thx for all your help and i will be on tomorrrow with more questions probably....
[07:08] <DanaG> !libdvdcss
[07:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:08] <jijutm> yossy: thats how you define the system partition
[07:08] <DanaG> !medibuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:09] <dan_> bbL
[07:09] <underwatercow> fnf: if only it were that easy
[07:09] <frantic> heh well, in wine you can tell it a directory is a drive
[07:09] <fnf> underwatercow: what problems are you having ?
[07:09] <platman> yossy: right click on the partiotion you want to set as root, then where is says "mount point" type "/"
[07:09] <diabolikmachine> Yossy: in linux and unis, you have one a root directory, everything else is a subdirectory of "/" or the root.
[07:09] <underwatercow> fnf: Totem says it cannot play the DVD (I've tried two). I have also tried playing them in mplayer, VLC, Ogle... probably another I'm forgetting
[07:10] <task0> is ok to have the wap partition on a primary partition?
[07:10] <Ademan> underwatercow: have you installed libdvdcss2?
[07:10] <platman> uwcow: you need libdvdcss2
[07:10] <task0> swap*
[07:10] <Yossy> Ahhh, i see. Thanks a bunch. I'm pretty eager to get this thing working :)
[07:10] <Ademan> libdvdcss2
[07:10] <Ademan> oops
[07:10] <ahave> can someone help me with mounting a smbfs drive?
[07:10] <josh__> is there a way to  have my hard drive be hda like it was in dapper and not sda, I believe that sata drivers are messing up suspend.
[07:10] <Ademan> !libdvdcss2
[07:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:10] <fnf> underwatercow: can you pastebin the exact message ?. Can you play the VOB files directly with totem/mplayer ?
[07:10] <jijutm> any jabber server to suggest ? an ubuntu supported package
[07:10] <waldo_> anyone know the right way to upgrade to feisty SERVER?
[07:10] <underwatercow> Is libdvdcss2 available from the repository?
[07:10] <Ademan> underwatercow: no you need to add the seveas repositories
[07:11] <Ademan> no biggie though
[07:11] <fnf> underwatercow: it should be that easy with a fresh Feisty installation.
[07:11] <DanaG> Or medibuntu!
[07:11] <diabolikmachine> weird... when you install to xfs, you get a corrupt fstab...
[07:11] <platman> uwcow: you need to activate a medibuntu repo to download and install
[07:11] <underwatercow> Ademan: Do you have a link?
[07:11] <Ademan> fnf: hrm? i don't see it in my package list, and i've got universe and multiverse
[07:11] <underwatercow> fnf: I did a fresh feisty...
[07:11] <Bhess> gotta get some sleep.... best of luck all..
[07:11] <waldo_> anyone here know how to do a dist-upgrade from the command line (ie, from edgy server)
[07:11] <fnf> Ademan: yup, libdvdcss/2 does not exist in Feisty repo, gstreamer* does it all.
[07:12] <fnf> underwatercow: can you pastebin the exact message ?. Can you play the VOB files directly with totem/mplayer ?
[07:12] <underwatercow> so I shouldn't need libdvdcss2 then?
[07:12] <underwatercow> fnf, one sec
[07:12] <first2di3|out> I have a g3 iMac with 128 ram, should I get the ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso or will the normal one work?
[07:12] <qiyong> universe gives me a feel of stars, planets, is it the same to you guys?
[07:12] <platman> gstreamer is horrible- i suggest you get libdvdcss
[07:12] <Ademan> fnf: are you sure it handles that?
[07:12] <underwatercow> fnf: what do you mean when you say pastebin?
[07:12] <task0> is possible to have text boot instead of the gui one?
[07:12] <Ademan> platman: naw gstreamer is great, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't de-encrypt dvds...
[07:13] <unix_infidel> is it possible to do a command line install with the ubuntu desktop live cd?
[07:13] <platman> gstreamer plugins are horrible
[07:13] <platman> i prefer xine
[07:13] <platman> totem-xine works for me
[07:13] <Ademan> platman: oh, you're talking about totem? that's totem's fault not gstreamer lol
[07:13] <fnf> Ademan: DVD playing is incorporated into totem a long time ago, it's just that totem doesn't have the right codec. gstreamer now can play DVD rightfully.
[07:13] <frantic> gstreamer is great
[07:14] <fnf> !pastebin | underwatercow
[07:14] <ubotu> underwatercow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:14] <Ademan> fnf: it can play unencrypted dvds, but dvdcss is for playing encrypted ones
[07:14] <platman> totem-gstreamer is horrible. i don't like fuzzy and skipping porn
[07:14] <bloodMuffin> how do i check how much space is left on my filesystem... i tried right clicking on everything says unknown
[07:14] <Ayabara> no vpn help here, so I had to solve it myself :-) -> bad idea to have a wired connection checked if you don't have connected it, since vpn may try to connect with it anyway. just thought I'd mention it in case someone else asks the same Q ;-)
[07:14] <first2di3|out> I have a g3 iMac with 128 ram, should I get the ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso or will the normal one work?
[07:14] <underwatercow> fnf: I'm trying to bring up the error again... it's sort of locking up
[07:14] <Ademan> first2di3|out: use the alternative, 128mb is a little thin
[07:15] <bimberi> task0: you can stop gdm (the login screen) from starting up at boot time with 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[07:15] <first2di3|out> thought so
[07:15] <first2di3|out> thanks
[07:15] <underwatercow> fnf: or at least taking a while
[07:15] <jerkworthy> I'm trying to update from breezy badger to drake and when i go through the updatemanager i get 10 failed to fetch errors
[07:15] <Ademan> anywho, to support my "gstreamer can't play encrypted dvds" theory, neither gxine nor mplayer work without libdvdcss2 (currently)
[07:15] <jerkworthy> "Failed to fetch http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" and so on. Any advice?
[07:15] <platman> i know... i have libdvdcss2 installed
[07:15] <mjbrooks> I need information on troubleshooting a laptop screen that won't go blank on inactivity in the final Feisty release, even though it was fine in the herd & beta. Anyone know a good link?
[07:15] <fnf> underwatercow: take your time.
[07:15] <DanaG> Totem / Gstreamer doesn't let you choose which sound device to use.
[07:15] <platman> it works smooth as butter
[07:15] <task0> bimberi: but i still want to have X and have gnome
[07:15] <DanaG> bloodMuffin: try the utility FileLight.
[07:15] <DanaG> !info filelight
[07:15] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[07:16] <bimberi> task0: well you could log in in text mode and type 'startx'
[07:16] <bloodMuffin> DanaG: do i get it from synaptic?
[07:16] <fnf> Ademan: you're right, it's been a while since I last played an encrypted DVD with totem
[07:16] <underwatercow> fnf: ok... got it
[07:16] <violator_> beryl caused ubuntu undesirable operation when I installed it
[07:16] <saviles> Syke_: thanks a lot.
[07:16] <bloodMuffin> and why would filesystem--> properties give me unknown size
[07:16] <underwatercow> fnf: if I try to start totem with the DVD in, it locks up and I have to force quit
[07:16] <task0> bimberi: is ok to have the swap partition on a primary partition?
[07:17] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, check out the bug I filled: Bug #109502  I mentioned you there...
[07:17] <bimberi> task0: yes
[07:17] <underwatercow> fnf: I have to start it, then put the DVD in and it says "An error occurred. Could not read from resource."
[07:17] <platman> task0:yes
[07:17] <Ademan> i installed the proprietary nvidia driver though the proprietary driver manager, and i still don't have access to my lcd's native resolution (1920x1200) or anything close to it for that matter.  I know i can edit my xorg.conf to add them, but is there a "nicer" way?
[07:17] <fnf> underwatercow: can totem play the VOBs files ?
[07:17] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/109502
[07:17] <underwatercow> fnf: will try that now
[07:17] <DanaG> me uses kaffeine instead of totem.
[07:17] <task0> bimberi: i was wondering why the autopartitioner uses a extended/logical partition for swap
[07:17] <DanaG> er, forgot a /
[07:17] <Ademan> ew kaffeine
[07:17] <Ademan> actually ew totem too
[07:17] <platman> uwcow: i'm telling you that totem-gstreamer is horrific. move to totem-xine or another player
[07:18] <Ademan> mplayer all the way
[07:18] <underwatercow> platman, lol... I tried xine, and mplayer
[07:18] <fnf> Ademan: you can use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, that's currently the most user-friendly way.
[07:18] <SeveredCross> VLC FTW!
[07:18] <bimberi> task0: good question, unfortunately idk why :|
[07:18] <task0> :S
[07:18] <underwatercow> fnf: I tried the VOB directly and same error
[07:18] <Ademan> fnf: ew alright, i'll just use vim and do it by hand lol, it's how i've always done it anywho
[07:18] <violator_> i use gstreamer
[07:18] <platman> you need libdvdcss2 to play dvd's with any xine based player
[07:18] <violator_> it even playback flv
[07:18] <lee_> hello
[07:18] <underwatercow> fnf: on one of the players, it started to play the intro and crashed, but I forget which player
[07:18] <frantic> does anyone know why i can't use xv to play videos on my ati card
[07:18] <bimberi> task0: perhaps in case you wanted to do further partitioning later
[07:19] <rio> what package did you guys install so that you could unzip rar files?
[07:19] <frantic> i don't want to install the propriety ati drivers
[07:19] <bimberi> !rar | rio
[07:19] <ubotu> rio: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:19] <crdlb> frantic, using desktop effects?
[07:19] <Ademan> i'm installing vlc right now to see if it needs libdvdcss2 to play encrypted dvds (libdvdcss2 was actually part of the vlc project so we'll see)
[07:19] <frantic> no desktop effects
[07:19] <mjbrooks>  acpid won't start and puts the oddest error in /var/log/messages  "Using specific hotkey driver"  Anyone ever seen that before?
[07:19] <crdlb> frantic, what happens?
[07:19] <fnf> underwatercow: no further suggestion, sorry, I've got no regioned-DVD at the moment.
[07:19] <rio> thanks bimberi!
[07:19] <papatwilight>  i'm looking for a good launcher that will look good with 3d animated icons that will look great with beryl, and not use gdesklets
[07:19] <lee_> can anyone help me with a simple problem?
[07:19] <frantic> just a black box where video should be
[07:19] <bimberi> rio: np :)
[07:19] <platman> uwcow: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[07:19] <synjet> !ask>lee_
[07:20] <abasin> is feisty out yet?
[07:20] <platman> uwcow: check out the page, add the repo, install libdvdcss2
[07:20] <joshjosh> abasin, yes
[07:20] <violator_> is there any other desktop manager other than beryl?
[07:20] <Ademan> papatwilight: the avant window navagator is GREAT, but you hafta compile it from svn
[07:20] <frantic> if it weren't for this, i'd be positively in love with the open source radeon driver
[07:20] <rio> !info unrar-free
[07:20] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:20] <underwatercow> platman, is there a website or a repository address that you have?
[07:20] <crdlb> frantic, I know of that happening in compiz/beryl but not in metacity
[07:20] <DanaG> xorg debconf fails to offer what I need:
[07:20] <platman> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[07:20] <DanaG> nvidia, synaptics, evdev, and "don't specify modelines".
[07:20] <crdlb> frantic, so I have no idea
[07:20] <lee_> thanks syn, okay, i was messing with my panels in gnome Fiesty and now on the bottom panel where normally it displays everything that you have open like firefox and all that so you can click on them to pull them into focus, nothing is shown
[07:20] <task0> where can i get beryl for fiesty?
[07:21] <mjbrooks> !beryl > task0
[07:21] <underwatercow> nvm, I found the file
[07:21] <frantic> i had it desktop effects on for a while yesterday, and it caused xorg to crash when i played a video
[07:21] <lgc> Hi! How do I remove Sun-Java (not installed from the Ubuntu repositories)?
[07:21] <abasin> joshjosh, do i install feisty the same way as i installed edgy:  change "edgy" to "feisty" in sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:21] <snap> whats the default filesystem for a ubuntu install?
[07:21] <DanaG> Nope, use update-manager.
[07:21] <joshjosh> abasin, that worked for me
[07:21] <Flannel> lgc: not fun-ly
[07:21] <thebillywayne> what's the significance of freenode running an "open proxy scanner"?
[07:21] <Flannel> snap: ext3
[07:21] <abasin> danag, why?
[07:22] <DanaG> It's friendlier.
[07:22] <Supaplex> thebillywayne: abuse mitigation
[07:22] <DanaG> And supposedly does fstab upgrading better.
[07:22] <thebillywayne> Supaplex, cool.
[07:22] <lgc> Flannel, hi! I don't get it...
[07:22] <abasin> danag, how so
[07:22] <SeveredCross> What's there to upgrade in fstab?
[07:22] <mjbrooks> DanaG, and it's the official way of doing it
[07:22] <diabolikmachine> useragent=Firefox_0.8.0__(CP/M;_8-bit)
[07:22] <qiyong> is realplayer in the repos?
[07:22] <diabolikmachine> lol
[07:22] <apmyp> why gnomebaker send error about DMA and won`t write a disk?
[07:22] <qiyong> universe gives me a feel of stars, planets, is it the same to you guys?
[07:22] <Flannel> lgc: you basically remove all the files it installed.  Which is reasonably straightforward... once you know all the files it installs.
[07:22] <synjet> lee_ create new panel and add window list as property to it
[07:23] <DanaG> I did dapper=>feisty via aptitude -- great pain and brokenness.
[07:23] <DanaG> In fact, on that system, the terminals don't start at all!
[07:23] <Flannel> SeveredCross: UUID over device locations
[07:23] <abasin> what's aptitude?
[07:23] <SeveredCross> Flannel: UUID starts from Edgy on, doesn't it?
[07:23] <bloodMuffin> i have same question as qiyong, how can i get rmvb's to play in totem?
[07:23] <platman> danag: i dont think that would ever work
[07:23] <abasin> danag, what?
[07:23] <Flannel> SeveredCross: yep
[07:23] <underwatercow> abasin aptitude is a package manager
[07:23] <SeveredCross> BTW, am I the only person who really hates UUID?
[07:23] <lgc> Flannel, that's as dirty as it can get! Isn't there a tiny hidden uninstaller somewhere?
[07:23] <DanaG> It DID work, but it broke some stuff.
[07:23] <scarter> Syke_: ok... where's the wireless faq for the bcm43xx? if its on http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ , that site seems to be down... is there a mirror?
[07:23] <jerkworthy> Can somebody please help me figure out how to upgrade from breezy to dapper when packages on updatemanager are dead dead dead?
[07:23] <underwatercow> woohoo!
[07:23] <underwatercow> libdvdcss2 fixed it
[07:23] <DanaG> I had to remove ubuntu-desktop, upgrade the core, and then reinstall ubuntu-desktop.
[07:24] <SeveredCross> I used apt-get to go Edgy -> Feisty, only thing that broke was xorg because I didn't install the ATI driver first.
[07:24] <anpi> does anyone have an idea how to force x to use some exact dpi?
[07:24] <lee_> oh wow, i knew it was something simple but i couldn't figure it out. thank you very much syn :)
[07:24] <platman> danag: i thought you had to ug to edgy then move to fesity
[07:24] <Flannel> lgc: That's why we have package management ;)  Not that I know of, but I can't say I've done anything other than the deb, so I'm not sure.
[07:24] <T0uCH> to install compiz do i need a very powerfull graphic card?
[07:24] <DanaG> You're supposed to.  I didn't.  I came to regret it.
[07:24] <DanaG> But the Feisty CD wouldn't boot!
[07:24] <SeveredCross> DanaG: Ditto.
[07:24] <DanaG> s/boot/start X even with VESA/
[07:24] <underwatercow> The quality of the video seems off though...
[07:24] <SeveredCross> X doesn't start.
[07:24] <mjbrooks> T0uCH, no, just a slightly powerful one that can do 3d
[07:24] <lgc> Flannel, hmm!
[07:24] <underwatercow> not to be picky
[07:24] <underwatercow> lol
[07:24] <Jh00> T0uCH, nope
[07:24] <platman>  ndanag: the fesity cd was sensitive
[07:24] <SeveredCross> DanaG: It's a problem with X and newer ATI cards it appears.
[07:25] <DanaG> t'was an Intel 945GM, actually.
[07:25] <SeveredCross> REally?
[07:25] <platman> i had to burn it twice
[07:25] <DanaG> And the lack of 915resolution,
[07:25] <SeveredCross> I have a Mobility Radeon X1400
[07:25] <DanaG> .
[07:25] <SeveredCross> X just would not start
[07:25] <SeveredCross> No matter what driver I threw at it.
[07:25] <bloodMuffin> DanaG: I installed filelite, where can i see the representation?
[07:25] <platman> uwcow: go into synaptic and install totem-xine
[07:25] <T0uCH> wich graphic card is the most easy to install in ubuntu?
[07:25] <platman> trust me you won't regret it
[07:25] <SeveredCross> I ended up doing some creative juggling by booting my Ubuntu partition that I had dist-upgraded from Edgy to Feisty in a VMWare on Windows XP, then using the ethernet bridge to install the ATI driver.
[07:25] <underwatercow> is there a reason that the DVD quality is below that of a regular dvd player?
[07:25] <DanaG> run the utility.  filelight
[07:26] <SeveredCross> (I needed the ethernet bridge because I was at home and only had wireless to use, which I couldn't get working at the commandline.)
[07:26] <DanaG> alt-f2 brings up the equivalent of win-R on windows.
[07:26] <underwatercow> platman: will that make it look better? what is the difference between them?
[07:26] <Ademan> SeveredCross: with a nvidia 8800   the fiesty liveCD would select the free "nv" driver, and X would die, but you could edit xorg.conf to use vesa, and it would work
[07:26] <Rebes> My new windows are loading behind current windows, any way to make them open with focus?
[07:26] <platman> xine is an older more mature player
[07:26] <SeveredCross> Weird
[07:26] <SeveredCross> I still vote for VLC.
[07:26] <platman> i always get better quality in totem with xine
[07:26] <SeveredCross> I also vote for bed.
[07:26] <underwatercow> VLC is nice, but not always as intuitive
[07:27] <platman> VLC usability is horrendous
[07:27] <underwatercow> VLC looks just as bad though as totem does for the DVD
[07:27] <platman> actually all linux video players are pretty sucky
[07:27] <platman> the music managers rock though
[07:27] <SeveredCross> I use Banshee..What's everyone else use?
[07:27] <bloodMuffin> DanaG: and then do i need to scan something?
[07:28] <platman> i use banshee, but my favorite is amarok
[07:28] <SeveredCross> Speaking of Banshee, I've been meaning to write a plugin.
[07:28] <SeveredCross> I would use Amarok but it's very finicky about responding to the multimedia keys on my lappy.
[07:28] <SeveredCross> Every 4th reboot it works.
[07:28] <SeveredCross> And I don't wanna reboot that many times.
[07:28] <underwatercow> Why do these players not some with DVD decryption, or at least tell you what you need to get said functionality?
[07:28] <underwatercow> come*
[07:28] <SeveredCross> underwatercow: Because distributing livdvdcss2 is illegal.
[07:28] <SeveredCross> In the United States anyway.
[07:29] <Ademan> amarok likes to stick the system tray into a random place on the screen
[07:29] <SeveredCross> So almost all distributions just choose not to package it.
[07:29] <platman> i never get that problem with amarok
[07:29] <underwatercow> SeveredCross: illegal to download? or illegal to distribute? and why so?
[07:29] <SeveredCross> Because it's simpler than distirbuting a US version and an everywhere else version.
[07:29] <SeveredCross> underwatercow: It violates the DMCA.
[07:29] <DanaG> Oh, scan whatever volume you want to.
[07:29] <underwatercow> stupid DMCA
[07:29] <Ademan> underwatercow: the DVD mafia has patents and such on what libdvdcss2 does, but of course, you already paid them when you bought windows (i assume you did) so morally, i see no problem with it
[07:29] <DanaG> It shows disk space on separate filesystems as separate.
[07:29] <SeveredCross> Anyway, bedtime.
[07:29] <SeveredCross> Goodnight everyone.
[07:29] <platman> actually, windows doesn't come with a decoder either
[07:29] <underwatercow> Ademan, I got Windows for free, but it was legal... so...
[07:30] <underwatercow> Ademan, lol
[07:30] <DanaG> for the same reason as I can't use anything other than my iAudio.
[07:30] <Ademan> lol
[07:30] <vinicius> good night
[07:30] <Ademan> platman: hrm? then the dvd software that came with your dvd hardware?
[07:30] <DanaG> Amarok media keys don't work if the keys are also used in Gnome.
[07:30] <Ademan> something...
[07:30] <DanaG> Try going to the script manager and doing "find new scripts" -- for the gnome mmkeys thingy.
[07:31] <mjbrooks> I need information on troubleshooting a laptop screen that won't go blank on inactivity in the final Feisty release, even though it was fine in the herd & beta. Anyone know a good link?
[07:31] <platman> ademan: yes, but a clean install comes with nothing at all, no mp3, no dvd, no anything
[07:31] <platman> OEM's add everything you need
[07:31] <T0uCH> how can i enable OpenGL ?
[07:31] <underwatercow> the DVD still has a... kinda grainy look... can that not be fixed?
[07:31] <refefer> hey guys, anyone know how to find out what resolutions the Intel 82945G graphics card supports?
[07:32] <Ademan> platman: yeah, well either way, when you buy your computer, the way i see it, you've paid for the right to decrypt dvds
[07:32] <DanaG> It should show a notification when you try to PLAY encrypted DVDs:
[07:32] <davo`> so yea I installed the windows core fonts from add/remove software, but they dont seem to be showing up in firefox
[07:32] <thebillywayne> there needs to be a "how to make Ubuntu look cool" page.
[07:32] <platman> danag=genius
[07:32] <T0uCH> !openGL
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <DanaG> "Thanks to the DMCA, it is illegal in the US to distribute the library that enables DVD decryption."
[07:33] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: what video card?
[07:33] <Jh00> T0uCH, which card do you have?
[07:33] <Ademan> T0uCH: what do you need to know?
[07:33] <platman> thebilllywayne: there is, its call gnome-look
[07:33] <DanaG> Then say "search the web for 'ubuntu libdvdcss' to find out how to install it."
[07:33] <underwatercow> Ademan, Platman: The video quality is still iffy. Is there no way to fix it?
[07:33] <Stryph> Can anyone point me to a "How To" for installing the latest Nvidia Driver... Thanks in Advance ^_^
[07:33] <DanaG> Use Xine, and set video to XV.
[07:33] <Ademan> thebillywayne: get the murrina theme engine, and some of the related themes, they're the best looking themes on any platform i've ever seen
[07:33] <lgc> Flannel, if there's an entry on the synaptics list does it mean that it was installed through apt* ?
[07:33] <T0uCH> i got a e-GeForce 6200 LE ... and nobodys who helps was abble to help me install this card
[07:33] <synjet> !nvidia>stryph
[07:33] <underwatercow> DanaG, I'm using xine... how do I set it to XV?
[07:33] <platman> mplayer should be playing it perfectly with libdvdcss2 installed
[07:33] <thebillywayne> platman, I mean like, a howto.
[07:34] <bloodMuffin> DanaG: hm i scanned '/' how do i read how much space is available on my ext3 partition?
[07:34] <DanaG> Go to the options; I don't remember where.
[07:34] <DanaG> Set options to advanced mode.
[07:34] <platman> well the theme toolbar has an install them button on it
[07:34] <bloodMuffin> me?
[07:34] <DanaG> Oh yeah, to scan just the one partition, you have to select it by name -- not just '/'.
[07:34] <thebillywayne> Ademan, thx.  i'll keep that in mind.
[07:34] <Ademan> underwatercow: well right click on mplayer and go to preferences, you can change the video out to xv, which apparently is good
[07:34] <diabolikmachine> bloodMuffin: i always just type "df -h" in a terminal.
[07:34] <hobojohn3> can i get some help with wireless in fiesty?
[07:34] <platman> thebillywayne: i agree that it should be a lot easier
[07:34] <Stryph> Spelling > Stryph
[07:35] <underwatercow> Ademan: I can't select xv
[07:35] <underwatercow> Ademan: well, I can, but it won't output
[07:35] <Jh00> T0uCH, have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[07:35] <T0uCH> yes
[07:35] <platman> uwcow: i have mine set to GL
[07:35] <bloodMuffin> diabolikmachine: o sweet that worked simple and easy to read
[07:35] <bloodMuffin> haha
[07:36] <anpi> why the fuck doesn't ubuntu obey my dpi settings in any config file?
[07:36] <DanaG> /dev/sda6 is my root, for example.
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | anpi
[07:36] <ubotu> anpi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:36] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: what does "lsmod | grep nvidia" say?
[07:36] <Ademan> underwatercow: what video card do you have?
[07:36] <anpi> sry, i'm getting a bit pissed with this
[07:36] <underwatercow> platman: I have it on gl too, quality might be a little better, but not much
[07:36] <violator_> how to remove beryl permanently?
[07:36] <T0uCH> i had try different way and with different people.. but this card still resist
[07:36] <platman> violator: sudo aptitude remove beryl
[07:36] <Ademan> violator_: sudo apt-get purge?
[07:37] <underwatercow> ademan, it's a cheapie I bought to tide me over. I'm planning on getting a new one soon. Mine now is an ATI Radeon X300
[07:37] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: run that command i told you in a terminal
[07:37] <T0uCH> it says nothing
[07:37] <Ademan> underwatercow: do you have the drivers installed? because i think xv depends on hardware mpeg decoding or something like that
[07:37] <platman> uwcow: ok i see the problem. just blame it on ATI like everone else does
[07:37] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: you said you have an nvidia card?
[07:37] <T0uCH> i got nothing install right now.. because every time i set something i need to reset the Xorg to get in ubuntu
[07:38] <underwatercow> lol Ademan: I was thinking about it.
[07:38] <T0uCH> yes i have one
[07:38] <frantic> time to go to bed
[07:38] <underwatercow> er
[07:38] <underwatercow> Platman
[07:38] <underwatercow> that was directed at you
[07:38] <violator_> why there is still menu in beryl at  applications?
[07:38] <underwatercow> Ademan: I have the restricted drivers that ubuntu offers installed
[07:38] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: when you run lspci do you see something that sounds like your card?
[07:39] <Ademan> underwatercow: and they're working correctly?
[07:39] <underwatercow> Ademan: yes... though I can't do things like run Beryl
[07:39] <Ademan> well that's ati's fault :-p
[07:39] <underwatercow> Ademan: at least not easily
[07:39] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: lspci | grep VGA
[07:39] <Ademan> but anywho, i dunno what's up with xv then
[07:39] <concept10> who says you cant run beryl on ATI?
[07:39] <T0uCH> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0222 (rev a1)
[07:39] <Ademan> no one
[07:40] <underwatercow> concept10: I just said it wasn't easy
[07:40] <Ademan> but xgl is an ugly hack and should never be used...by anyone...
[07:40] <platman> uwcow: do other videos other than DVD's look bad. like you know, videos that seafaring swashbucklers like to watch?
[07:40] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: cool.. run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" in a term.
[07:40] <concept10> you dont need XGL either
[07:40] <concept10> underwatercow: what card do you use?
[07:40] <underwatercow> platman: I don't have any handy, but when I did, they looked fine
[07:40] <T0uCH> it will fail to lunch the X server during the reboot
[07:40] <underwatercow> concept10: the X300
[07:40] <violator_> do i have to reboot after beryl was uninstalled?
[07:40] <T0uCH> it does that anytime
[07:40] <Ademan> concept10: of course you do... you either need indirect GLX or you need Xgl...
[07:41] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: it does right now?
[07:41] <Lam_> is a GeForce 5200 compatible with nvidia-glx-new or should i just use nvidia-glx?
[07:41] <T0uCH> no not right now
[07:41] <platman> ati is a bane on linux existence.  intel has to start opensourcing more of their graphics chipsets
[07:41] <cafuego> Lam_: nvidia-glx-new should be fine
[07:41] <T0uCH> but now i had install
[07:41] <Lam_> cafuego: ok thanks :)
[07:42] <synjet> violator: nope, you could just restart the x server by ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:42] <underwatercow> platman... if I got a nicer card, preferably an nvidia, do you think that I would be able to play them better?
[07:42] <silente> #join roma
[07:42] <Geoffrey2> if an application needs glibc 2.2 or later, which c compiler in Ubuntu should I be using?
[07:42] <platman> uwcow: maybe, the drivers are MUCH better. but it's not really a guarantee
[07:42] <hobojohn3> can i get some help with wireless in fiesty?
[07:42] <T0uCH> what is the next command after installing nvidia?
[07:42] <underwatercow> platman: I'm wanting a new card anyway
[07:42] <platman> my card is a fx5200, it's horrible, but everything runs smooth as hell
[07:42] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <hobojohn3> i cant connect to wireless even though it says i am
[07:42] <Ademan> ati will get their act together when linux starts gaining a greater market share, and i honestly think that's happening, it seems every ubuntu release is bigger and bigger
[07:43] <Jh00> T0uCH, let us know if it worked ok?
[07:43] <hobojohn3> its not working
[07:43] <violator_> so that's ctrl-alt-del of ubuntu?
[07:43] <T0uCH> ok sorry
[07:43] <platman> ademan: heard about dell? it's looking good....
[07:43] <Jh00> Im interested in that problem, since I think I have a similar one at work
[07:43] <Ademan> oh yeah, i'm excited
[07:43] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: then hit "ctrl-f" and search for "nv"
[07:43] <synjet> violator: you arent rebooting the system.. just the x server
[07:43] <violator_> wonderful
[07:43] <underwatercow> You know how when you remove a program in synaptic, it installs many things, but doesn't always uninstall everything it installed when you remove it?
[07:43] <violator_> instant reboot
[07:44] <Ademan> i'm buying a dell once they do that, out of principle, and necessity... my current comps are getting outdated fast...
[07:44] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: you should see a line like: Driver  "nv"
[07:44] <underwatercow> Is there program to clean that up? I know aptitude checks and removes unused when you uninstall
[07:44] <platman> uwcow: sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:44] <underwatercow> platman: awesome, thanks
[07:44] <T0uCH> it doesnt want to run a search...
[07:44] <platman> ademan: i think dell will be my choice of laptop for a while
[07:44] <underwatercow> stupid dell
[07:44] <underwatercow> lol
[07:44] <grayscale> Question: I want to upgrade to Feisty, but I'm starting from Dapper.  Will I have to go Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty?
[07:44] <platman> as soon as they release that is...
[07:45] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend a good Newsreader that supports SSL?
[07:45] <joshjosh> platman, i'll wait to see what they charge.
[07:45] <Faentur> grayscale, yes you will.
[07:45] <underwatercow> oh, actually... I have one last question before I go. Is anyone familiar with XDMCP?
[07:45] <abasin> grayscale, no, but i think it's better if you to in order
[07:45] <abasin> to=go
[07:45] <platman> well it cant be more expensive than say system76
[07:45] <Ademan> grayman: hahaha, you will have FUN doing that upgrade...
[07:45] <platman> which i think overcharges
[07:45] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: it doesn't find nv?
[07:45] <T0uCH> diabolikmachine: can i search manualy in the text?
[07:45] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: sure.
[07:45] <violator_> I was wondering if its now possible to emulate MS-DOS to run old games
[07:46] <Faentur> grayscale, I just did it on both my laptop and desktop this weekend.  It's about 3 hours per upgrade, mostly to download all the packages
[07:46] <diabolikmachine> violator_: dosbox
[07:46] <grayman> Ademan, grayscale?
[07:46] <T0uCH> when i click on the search icon .. nothing happens...
[07:46] <underwatercow> violator_: there is a program called DosBox
[07:46] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: weird....
[07:46] <violator_> thanks
[07:46] <Ademan> grayman: hrm?
[07:46] <underwatercow> violator_:it works well
[07:46] <violator_> i got truckloads of floppy disk here
[07:46] <T0uCH> phrase not found
[07:46] <DanaG> ... and now that I have a Gateway as a gift (I had no choice of brand), I have to consider them, too.
[07:46] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: search for "vesa" then.
[07:47] <grayman> Ademan, i think that you directed that answer to the wrong person :)
[07:47] <underwatercow> XDMCP? anyone?
[07:47] <diabolikmachine> it would be really wierd if you are using the vesa driver....
[07:47] <Faentur> T0uCH, what are you trying to do again?  Just so I can catch up.
[07:47] <T0uCH> yea there is
[07:47] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: ok, change vesa to nvidia
[07:47] <Jh00> Faentur, he is trying to install nvidia drivers for his Geforce 6200
[07:47] <T0uCH> Faentur:  install a graphic card
[07:47] <Ademan> grayman: ah, you're right lol, stupid tab complete
[07:47] <T0uCH> ok
[07:47] <Ademan> sorry
[07:47] <Faentur> AH ok.  And you've got the vesa installed now?
[07:48] <Jh00> He is trying to locate in xorg.conf which driver is installed
[07:48] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: ok.. now save the file, and close gedit
[07:48] <Faentur> search for Screen
[07:48] <T0uCH> ok
[07:48] <Faentur> it's in the Screen section
[07:48] <grayscale> Faentur, thanks for the info :) maybe I'll do each step while I sleep
[07:49] <grayscale> so I'm not just sitting here antsy between upgrades
[07:49] <Faentur> grayscale, that's what I did.  And went to the movies. :)
[07:49] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: ok.. now cross youre finger, and press ctr+alt+backspace. it will log you out. come back and tell us if it worked.
[07:49] <underwatercow> Anyone? XDMCP? Going once, going twice? help?
[07:49] <T0uCH> ok ill come back ...
[07:49] <frandavid100> hiya
[07:49] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend a good Newsreader that supports SSL?
[07:49] <Faentur> underwatercow, I'm afraid I don't know what XDMCP is ;(
[07:49] <frandavid100> can someone tell me how to reset my panels / menu to factory defaults?
[07:50] <underwatercow> Faentur: it's for remote login
[07:50] <ceil`idlerpg> who can help me with a severe nvidia driver 'issue'? and please don't !nvidia me, because i have no graphics right now
[07:50] <ChinaForge> Hello,I Rdesktop can't run,Error Promtp:"core dumped",Why?
[07:50] <diabolikmachine> darn... i guess it didn't work for him...
[07:50] <Faentur> frandavid100, you'll need to remove your .gconf, .gnome, .nautilus, or .metacity files in your home dir: I forget which.
[07:51] <ceil`idlerpg> when i rebooted after using that devil's tool called Envy, it said i need nvidia kernel 1.0-9755, but i have 1.0-9631
[07:51] <Jh00> ceil`idlerpg, perhaps it would be better if you just ask away :-)
[07:51] <Kassah> where would I find a good place to get Fiesty Fawn Torrent?
[07:51] <ceil`idlerpg> how do i get the kernel that i apparently need?
[07:51] <underwatercow> I would suggest the ubuntu.com site
[07:51] <Jh00> Kassah, on the mirrors page
[07:51] <underwatercow> lol, I believe they have a torrent link
[07:51] <frandavid100> Faentur: but that would screw lots of other settings right?
[07:51] <concept10> underwatercow: I cant find the page, but im sure that your card is properly supported.  But I wasnt around to see your exact problem
[07:51] <crdlb> ceil`idlerpg, are you on feisty?
[07:51] <ceil`idlerpg> crdlb, yeah
[07:51] <underwatercow> concept10: i haven't tried doing much to get it to work
[07:51] <ceil`idlerpg> crdlb, currently without a GUI tho -_-
[07:51] <underwatercow> concept10: it doesn't work automatically though
[07:51] <underwatercow> :-p
[07:52] <Jh00> Kassah, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[07:52] <Kassah> sweet... thanks
[07:52] <Faentur> frandavid100, yes.  You'd need to find the panel stuff and remove it: then log out with the vulcan death grip.  It will rebuild your files with the default settings.
[07:52] <Faentur> frandavid100, gimme a minute, I'll see if I can find it
[07:52] <crdlb> ceil`idlerpg, well uninstall with envy first of all
[07:52] <frandavid100> thanks a lot Faentur
[07:52] <diabolikmachine> i guess t0uch's video card didn't work....
[07:52] <ceil`idlerpg> crdlb, i don't know how :( i just used it's GUI to "automatically install" nvidia's driver
[07:53] <underwatercow> concept10: someone said they got an nvidia and beryl worked right out of the box
[07:53] <ceil`idlerpg> (which apparently didn't work out too well)
[07:53] <concept10> underwatercow: okay.  I thought you did alot of work to get it installed instead of clicking a checkbox :)  I have'nt tried the desktop-effects but beryl works fine on my 3 year old laptop
[07:53] <eternaljoy> I cant believe Ubuntu doesnt have at least one newsreader that supports SSL
[07:53] <Jh00> diabolikmachine, hmmm that would be unfortunate
[07:53] <underwatercow> concept10: I don't have the desire to try too hard to get it to work, lol... I want it to just WORK!
[07:53] <underwatercow> :-p
[07:53] <crdlb> ceil`idlerpg, try just running it: envy
[07:53] <platman> eternaljoy: pan doesn't support ssl?
[07:53] <crdlb> ceil`idlerpg, it should drop back into text mode
[07:53] <concept10> underwatercow: I understand.  it's really easy to install though.
[07:53] <Kassah> Jh00: thanks
[07:54] <T0uCH> diabolikmachine:  it doesnt work
[07:54] <Faentur> frandavid100, it's in BOTH .gconf and .gnome2.  Arrgh!  Gnome is so complicated!
[07:54] <Jh00> welcome back T0uCH
[07:54] <underwatercow> concept: I installed it, but it wouldn't work without changes at least
[07:54] <DanaG> !info nvidia-glx-new
[07:54] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-15.20 (feisty), package size 4719 kB, installed size 14400 kB
[07:54] <T0uCH> hi
[07:54] <ceil`idlerpg> crdlb, i suppose i should "uninstall nvidia driver"?
[07:54] <ceil`idlerpg> wtf @ nick
[07:54] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: i take it it didn't work?
[07:54] <underwatercow> sudo apt-get autoremove is my new favorite command
[07:54] <eternaljoy> platman, Pan doesnt support SSL.  surprinsing
[07:54] <Faentur> frandavid100, try this: locate panel | grep <your_user_name>  from your home directory.
[07:54] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: it took you a while to come back...
[07:54] <eternaljoy> platman, know any that does?
[07:55] <concept10> underwatercow: that command could be dangerous to your health
[07:55] <platman> eternaljoy: wow, it has so many features, i thought that one was a gimme
[07:55] <commonlyUNIQU3> quick Beagle question - does anyone know how to find out the progress of the beagled "indexer" (e.g. HOW LONG UNTIL IT FINISHES BUILDING THE INDEX!!) ??  Thanx
[07:55] <Faentur> T0uCH, what happened?
[07:55] <underwatercow> lol, how's that concept10?
[07:55] <T0uCH> yeah i know.. i need to reboot in safe mode
[07:55] <platman> eternaljoy: sorry can't think of any
[07:55] <ceil420> crdlb, or "clean the installation of nvidia driver"?
[07:55] <ChinaForge> Hello,My Rdesktop can't run after update,Error Promtp:"core dumped",Why?
[07:55] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: weird.. did you get an error that made any sense?
[07:55] <crdlb> ceil420, uninstall sounds nice, but I'm not sure
[07:55] <underwatercow> What's the directory that apt-get, or aptitude, or whatever stores files? I was told to keep it clean to save disk space. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[07:56] <T0uCH> and do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg .. and then i can come back
[07:56] <mojo> can someone tell me what these errors mean?  http://www.pastebin.ca/452906
[07:56] <ceil420> screw it, uninstall sounds bloody golden
[07:56] <ceil420> brb
[07:56] <concept10> underwatercow: say for example you remove a metapackage like ubuntu-desktop, autoremove could suggest to remove other packages you dont need defined in that metapackage.. and desktop gone
[07:56] <Faentur> underwatercow, use 'apt-get clean'
[07:56] <T0uCH> yes there is a messahe..
[07:56] <ceil420> can't get any worse anyway ;x
[07:56] <synjet> underwatercow: /var/cache
[07:56] <ksosez> okay i have just run into the strangest bug i have ever seen...it involves 1) feisty fawn 2) radeon drivers 3) Radeon Mobility X600 4) adobe flash player 9.0 4) any flash video.....the result is the screen goes crazy..as if its over heating or being disconnected with everything going blurry etc but if i manage to stop playing the flash video it recovers...anyone see this?
[07:56] <ceil420> uhm
[07:56] <ceil420> that was kinda quick for a driver uninstallation
[07:56] <[Unix-Like] > hello
[07:56] <ceil420> i'm not sure it failed
[07:56] <underwatercow> concept10: is that likely to hapepn?
[07:57] <T0uCH> impossible to start the x server wrong configuration
[07:57] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: thats unusual.. altho i think i remember having to use a different version of the driver for my 6200...
[07:57] <ceil420> but it sent me back to the menu without letting me see what all it did
[07:57] <crdlb> ceil420, see if you can run the clean option too
[07:57] <platman> eternaljoy: supposedly binbot handles ssl. but i think it's fecal matter
[07:57] <ceil420> (i seriously don't like envy)
[07:57] <crdlb> ceil420, lol then why did you run it?
[07:57] <underwatercow> Faentur, synjet: thanks
[07:57] <concept10> underwatercow: it could if you use is blindly and not pay attention to the packages
[07:57] <Faentur> T0uCH, what did you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file say?
[07:57] <underwatercow> concept10: true. It tells what it is going to remove though
[07:57] <underwatercow> concept10: so just don't be stupid about it
[07:57] <ceil420> crdlb, because opengl or whatever wasn't working, and someone on the forums suggested it, and it seemed to have worked for someone else
[07:57] <underwatercow> ;p;
[07:57] <Faentur> heh.  "youR"
[07:57] <eternaljoy> platman, fecal?
[07:58] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: i told him to replace "vesa" with "nvidia", but its weird that it wasn't using "nv" to start off with.
[07:58] <eternaljoy> platman, used Stunnel?
[07:58] <ceil420> i didn't know it'd install the wrong damn nvidia kernel ;x
[07:58] <platman> eternaljoy: yeah as in a POS. plus i think it is only for binaries... which is all i use it for anyway
[07:58] <Faentur> ceil420, envy killed me, I had to uninstall.
[07:58] <arrenlex> What else in the repositories edits odt, besides kword, abiword and oowriter?
[07:58] <frandavid100> Faentur: /home/david/.gconf/apps/panel/applets      /home/david/.gconf/apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel
[07:58] <crdlb> ceil420, that's not the probem, it's getting confused about which module to use
[07:58] <T0uCH> Faentur:  i am not able to read these files
[07:58] <frandavid100> guess that's what I'd have to remove
[07:58] <underwatercow> Actually... I tried removing bittorrent, and it automatically will uninstall ubuntu-desktop... anyone else know that? lol
[07:58] <Faentur> T0uCH, not even with sudo?
[07:58] <crdlb> ceil420, you have all three modules (7184,9631, and 9755)
[07:58] <ceil420> Faentur, at least i'm not the only one :(
[07:59] <platman> eternaljoy: nope i have never used stunnel
[07:59] <HYPOCRISY> yo
[07:59] <Schalken> is there a way to reset gnome's keyboard shortcuts?
[07:59] <cyberfr0g> Hello
[07:59] <platman> uwcow: yup i was surprised by that also
[07:59] <Faentur> ceil420, yeah.  T0uCH is going through it now.
[07:59] <T0uCH> Faentur:  sorry i mean understandin
[07:59] <mojo> these errors keep coming up on my console periodically, but i haven't been able to figure out what causes them (or what the effect is).  very strange....  http://www.pastebin.ca/452906
[07:59] <ceil420> crdlb, i don't know what that means :X
[07:59] <crdlb> ceil420, what card do you have?
[07:59] <HYPOCRISY> fun
[07:59] <ChinaForge> Hello,My Rdesktop can't run after update,Error Promtp:"core dumped",Why?
[07:59] <underwatercow> platman: any idea why that is? lol
[07:59] <cyberfr0g> dunno
[07:59] <platman> i just redirected firefox to point to transmission instead
[07:59] <ceil420> crdlb, GeForce FX 5200
[07:59] <Faentur> T0uCH, do this for me: dpkg -l | grep nv
[08:00] <ceil420> crdlb, not new, but not legacy
[08:00] <T0uCH> ok
[08:00] <crdlb> ceil420, then install the package: nvidia-glx-new
[08:00] <platman> uwcow: no clue. luckily, the torrent application is tiny and not obstrusive
[08:00] <Faentur> T0uCH, I think there will be a lot of stuff, but at least we'll know what nvidia packages you have installed
[08:00] <T0uCH> yes there is a lot
[08:00] <underwatercow> Does anyone have a suggestion on a good nvidia card that will play games that are coming out this year, and will work well for future games for a year or two?
[08:00] <LaszloKv> Would someone be able to help me with setting up a shared folder with samba?  Right now I'm having a problem with giving the right permissions to the drive it's on.
[08:00] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: he has nvidia-glx installed.
[08:00] <underwatercow> I need to do research, but first hand experience is better
[08:00] <platman> uwcow: 8800GTX
[08:00] <platman> lol
[08:00] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, ok, then.
[08:00] <crdlb> lol I was going to say the same
[08:01] <underwatercow> platman: estimated cost?
[08:01] <T0uCH> diabolikmachine:  but i tried with all the package for nvidia...
[08:01] <crdlb> underwatercow, arm and a leg
[08:01] <eternaljoy> platman, how do you change 4 connections to 10 in Pan?
[08:01] <platman> 2 DAMN MUCH
[08:01] <ceil420> crdlb, i "accidentally" (read: stupidly) did 'clean nvidia installation' after that untrustworthy removal (damn envy for not telling me what it did!), so it's currently installing something else, which i'll immediately remove when it's done
[08:01] <underwatercow> crdlb, platman: lol... that's encouraging... DX10?
[08:01] <frandavid100> thanks for your help Faentur, gonna kill the session, see if it worked
[08:01] <platman> uwcow:  yessir
[08:01] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, T0uCH, it should look like this: Section "Screen"
[08:01] <Faentur>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[08:01] <Faentur>         Device          "NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] "
[08:01] <underwatercow> platman, so I'm guessing by that, 400-500?
[08:01] <Faentur> T0uCH, only with your card name
[08:02] <crdlb> ceil420, it's installing someting?
[08:02] <eternaljoy> anyone here use Pan?
[08:02] <synjet> !pastebin>faentur
[08:02] <lgc> What's the command to find out about the libraries some executable links to?
[08:02] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: device name is of no significance.
[08:02] <platman> eternaljoy: i'm not sure, this pan is brand new, they moved some stuff arounf
[08:02] <platman> uwcow: try 600
[08:02] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, yes, but it's pretty.  ;}
[08:02] <ceil420> crdlb, i just removed whatever it was; what was that package called again? nvidia-glx-new?
[08:02] <underwatercow> platman... I also don't think I can get a discount on it since nvidia doesn't offer accommodations, and we don't sell it at my store so I get no employee discount
[08:02] <crdlb> ceil420, yes
[08:02] <underwatercow> :-p
[08:02] <platman> i get it at discount
[08:02] <Helmi> morning guys
[08:03] <T0uCH> Faentur:  i dont see this in my screen
[08:03] <platman> but i would never purchase it. i have a wii :P
[08:03] <underwatercow> platman: how so?
[08:03] <underwatercow> platman: lol... not much of a console game
[08:03] <ceil420> crdlb, that's set to replace nvidia-glx (which sounds like a good plan)
[08:03] <underwatercow> gamer
[08:03] <lgc> ldd, thanks everyone!
[08:03] <Faentur> T0uCH, do you have a device line?
[08:03] <platman> i work for a very large online electronics retailer
[08:03] <diabolikmachine> so... i'm new to this debian/ubuntu stuff... apt-get install build-deps installs all the headers needed to build something... correct?
[08:03] <crdlb> ceil420, envy left nvidia-glx installed?
[08:03] <platman> think of a large cat and it going DIRECTLY towards you
[08:03] <crdlb> lol
[08:03] <T0uCH> in  dpkg -l | grep nv
[08:03] <T0uCH> ?
[08:04] <Helmi> i just mounted a smb share via fstab/smbfs
[08:04] <Faentur> crdlb, it did on my machine.
[08:04] <ceil420> crdlb, apparently so. i wouldn't recommend that damn program to my worst enemy ;x
[08:04] <crdlb> ceil420, yeah remove nvidia-glx
[08:04] <Faentur> T0uCH, no, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:04] <crdlb> and use nvidia-glx-new
[08:04] <Helmi> it works great so far but i have problems downloading files to it with firefox. firefox just doesn't seem to start the download. any ideas?
[08:04] <eternaljoy> anyone know how to change 4 connections to 10 connections in Pan?
[08:04] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: have you used this card in another OS before?
[08:04] <underwatercow> 8800GTX is very pricey
[08:04] <T0uCH> only in windows
[08:05] <ceil420> crdlb, while i'm waiting for that install, you know a way to check which flavour of ubuntu you have currently installed? cos oddly enough, i saw the Edubuntu splash screen both on shut-down and re-start
[08:05] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: thats what i meant.. i just wanted to make sure it worked.
[08:05] <ceil420> and i'm on Xubuntu o_O
[08:05] <ceil420> (or ought to be)
[08:05] <Faentur> T0uCH, it should work.  We've got the nVidia 14K cards in our machines at work, and they're ok.  Of course that's Red Hat, but we install the driver from their website
[08:05] <crdlb> ceil420, heh it doesn't really matter though, but I don't
[08:05] <eternaljoy> I cant believe Ubuntu doesnt have at least one newsreader that supports SSL
[08:06] <T0uCH> Section "Device"
[08:06] <T0uCH>  Identifier "Generic Video Card"
[08:06] <T0uCH>  Driver  "vesa" ?
[08:06] <ceil420> eh as long as i'm still doin Xfce instead of Gnome
[08:06] <diabolikmachine> ceil420: you probably installed "edubuntu-desktop" package...
[08:06] <underwatercow> dear God! $700!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
[08:06] <Faentur> T0uCH, yeah, that "Driver" line is wrong I think - diabolikmachine, you concur?
[08:06] <ceil420> w00t
[08:06] <Faentur> You need to change "vesa" to "nvidia"
[08:07] <underwatercow> is there a cheaper card? lol
[08:07] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: we tried changing it and X wouldn't start.
[08:07] <Jh00> what about nv?
[08:07] <ceil420> last line is "setting up nvidia-glx-new (1.0.9755)", which is totally what i needed
[08:07] <platman> uwcow: yea there are GTS versions of that crd
[08:07] <ceil420> crdlb, is there anything else i need to do?
[08:07] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, T0uCH, oh, I missed that.  Yeah, try "nv"
[08:07] <diabolikmachine> nv would at least give 2d accel...
[08:07] <T0uCH> in?
[08:07] <ceil420> diabolikmachine, you're probably right, i remember installed stuff to get more themes 'n' whatnot
[08:07] <PoofDaddy> How do I get the diagnostic message from NetworkManager indicating why I can't connect to wireless on Feisty?
[08:07] <Faentur> T0uCH, assuming you have it installed.
[08:07] <ceil420> installing*
[08:07] <Jh00> change "vesa" to "nv"
[08:07] <crdlb> ceil420, hopefully it'll work on reboot
[08:07] <diabolikmachine> or maybe nvidia-glx-new?
[08:07] <ferronica> network service discovery disabled. your current network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi network service discovery. the service has been disabled.
[08:08] <Faentur> Which is what the output of that dpkg command I gave you will tell you, T0uCH
[08:08] <T0uCH> save and quit?
[08:08] <arrenlex> What else in the repositories edits odt, besides kword, abiword and oowriter?
[08:08] <crdlb> ceil420, one thing that may be good is to purge and reinstall your restricted modules (command coming up)
[08:08] <ferronica> Network service discovery disabled. Your current network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi network service discovery. the service has been disabled.
[08:08] <Jh00> T0uCH, yes
[08:08] <ceil420> :o
[08:08] <Faentur> T0uCH, yes, then run 'startx' and see what happens
[08:08] <underwatercow> I just can't justify $700 for a graphics card
[08:08] <diabolikmachine> he is in x now
[08:08] <umop> My samba shareds are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error
[08:08] <MajorApus> how do I disable force checks of disks during reboot
[08:08] <diabolikmachine> alt+ctrl+backspace
[08:09] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, OH!  Man, I'm really confused!
[08:09] <crdlb> ceil420, sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:09] <T0uCH> faetur paste bin?
[08:09] <crdlb> ceil420, then reinstall linux-generic
[08:09] <underwatercow> platman: what is different on the GTS?
[08:09] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, I thought T0uCH didn't have X at all.
[08:09] <bryan> I NEED HELP ON INSTALLING A DELL PRINTER
[08:09] <crdlb> ceil420, assuming you're using a -generic kernel
[08:09] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: he reconfigured x and rebooted.
[08:09] <platman> uwcow: lower performance. the 8800 GTX is the undisputed king of video cards right now
[08:09] <billfur> anyone here familiar with multilib?
[08:09] <T0uCH> !pastebin
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:09] <bryan> is frantic still around/busy?
[08:10] <underwatercow> platman: I just need someone that is modest, but good... I don't need the best of the best
[08:10] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, ok.  But the wrong drivers are still installed.  Hmm.
[08:10] <ceil420> crdlb, yes, i am (ignore this, i need to look back at it so i don't need to PgUp ->)sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:10] <platman> uwcosw: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133193
[08:10] <Lathiat> ferronica: http://www.avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
[08:10] <diabolikmachine> Faentur: i think he is just having a compatability issue, the nvidia drivers are not flawless.
[08:10] <bryan> i need help on installing a printer onto fiesty
[08:10] <Faentur> T0uCH, diabolikmachine, have you run Symantic and searched for vesa and nvidia to confirm what's installed and what isn't?
[08:10] <Faentur> diabolikmachine, I think you're probably right.
[08:11] <bryan> is there anyone available to help me with this issue
[08:11] <NemesisD> this kis kind of a basic question but something is using up 100% of my clock cycles, how would I go about finding out what process is doing that and killing it (sys monitor is no help)
[08:11] <ferronica> Lathiat: I have just changed LAN CARD after that i got this error
[08:11] <underwatercow> platman: thanks... that's a bit more in my price range, lol
[08:11] <T0uCH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17354/
[08:11] <Faentur> NemesisD, start with 'top'
[08:11] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: so.. currently you have Driver set to "nv" correct?
[08:12] <T0uCH> correct
[08:12] <NemesisD> argh its mysqld_safe
[08:12] <T0uCH> in the text
[08:12] <ceil420> crdlb, that's gonna remove "linux-generic*", "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic*", and "linux-restricted-modules-generic*"; does that look right?
[08:12] <underwatercow> How hard is it to print to a networked printer anyway?
[08:12] <diabolikmachine> T0uCH: ok.. try alt+ctrl+backspace again.. if that driver doesn't work... i don't know what to tell you.
[08:12] <umop> My samba shareds are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broekn on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[08:12] <crdlb> ceil420, yes, just reinstall linux-generic to put them back
[08:13] <NemesisD> Faentur, killed it, thanks!
[08:13] <ceil420> crdlb, ok *taps "Y" and hits enter*
[08:13] <ferronica> Lathiat: what i do now?
[08:13] <T0uCH> do i need to check or uncheck the nvidia case in the menu?
[08:13] <Faentur> You're welcome, NemesisD
[08:13] <ceil420> crdlb, that looks like it's going to reinstall all three :o
[08:14] <ceil420> crdlb, is that right?
[08:14] <Faentur> T0uCH, which menu are you looking at?
[08:14] <crdlb> ceil420, yes linux-generic pulls them in
[08:14] <ceil420> ok
[08:14] <ceil420> installed
[08:14] <crdlb> ceil420, now reboot and pray
[08:14] <T0uCH> system.. manager.. and .. in dont know in english .. looks like private driver manager..
[08:14] <umop> My samba shares are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broken on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[08:14] <ferronica> Network service discovery disabled. Your current network has a .local domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi network service discovery. the service has been disabled.
[08:15] <T0uCH> system administration*
[08:15] <ceil420> crdlb, now for my stupidest question yet (please go easy on me, i've never used the CLI so extensively), but how do i reboot? :x
[08:15] <crdlb> ceil420, ctrl+alt+delete
[08:15] <umop> no
[08:15] <diabolikmachine> ok.. i need to restart...
[08:15] <umop> shutdown -r now
[08:15] <ceil420> o_O
[08:15] <crdlb> that doesn't work on ubuntu?
[08:15] <Faentur> T0uCH, gotcha, the restricted drivers manager.  Yeah, mine's checked on
[08:15] <umop> its not a nice way to shutdown
[08:16] <crdlb> doesn't it just do the same thing?
[08:16] <Faentur> T0uCH, is yours green and "in use"?
[08:16] <umop> especially with the changed that were made
[08:16] <underwatercow> does ctrl+alt+esc not let you force quit anymore in feisty?
[08:16] <platman> im pretty sure sudo reboot works as well
[08:16] <umop> probably
[08:16] <ceil420> crdlb, if i don't make it back, tell yourself i said thanks, and mourn the death of my graphics card, which is likely to be roasting on a spit
[08:16] <T0uCH> faentur... no my system is never rebooting under this condition yet
[08:16] <T0uCH> has*
[08:17] <Faentur> T0uCH, well, that sucks.
[08:17] <T0uCH> i always got a blue screen who tell me my x server.....
[08:17] <T0uCH> a bit yeah
[08:17] <bryan> can anyone please help me figure out how to install this dell printer?
[08:17] <Faentur> T0uCH, not configured correctly, right?  and asks you if you want to view the output.
[08:17] <T0uCH> yeah exactly
[08:17] <root__> anyone recommend a good dark contrast theme?
[08:18] <Faentur> T0uCH, I had that yesterday.  I'm trying to remember how I fixed it...
[08:18] <platman> bryan: what brand of printer is it REALLY?
[08:18] <hoho> helloapp
[08:18] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ok
[08:18] <Faentur> T0uCH, I'm pretty sure I installed nvidia-glx - which I understand you have already.
[08:18] <umop> T0uCH, it means your card isnt configured, propably the driver, have you been changing xorg.conf?
[08:18] <T0uCH> yes
[08:18] <underwatercow> anyway.. .I'm taking off now... thanks to platman, Ademan, DanaG, concept10, and everyone else who helped me tonight!
[08:18] <Jh00> hmm, time to say good night
[08:19] <platman> later uwcow
[08:19] <Ademan> seeyah underwatercow
[08:19] <T0uCH> umop:  maybe
[08:19] <Faentur> T0uCH, when you ran dpkg -l | grep nvidia: you should have like four things:
[08:19] <T0uCH> i got glx and glx-dev
[08:20] <dark112> anyone have an recommendations for a dark theme?
[08:20] <bryan> i do not know
[08:20] <bryan> let me google that, i thought i did to no avail...but...
[08:20] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend a good Newsreader that supports SSL?
[08:20] <T0uCH> Faentur:  yes
[08:20] <Faentur> T0uCH, run lsmod and tell me if you see nvidia in the list
[08:20] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend a good Newsreader that supports SSL and Multiple Connections?
[08:20] <dark112> eternaljoy pan
[08:20] <umop> dark112, for gnome?
[08:20] <eternaljoy> dark112, Pan doesnt support more than 4 connectons and doesnt support SSL
[08:20] <dark112> umop, yeah
[08:21] <sluimers> hello?
[08:21] <dark112> yeah, i probably shouldnt be recommending anything to anyone haha, i've been a linux user for three days now
[08:21] <Faentur> T0uCH, it might be easier to do 'lsmod | grep nvidia' :)
[08:21] <eternaljoy> dark112, LOL
[08:21] <hoho> hello t
[08:21] <dark112> would be nice to find a newsreader that supported 8 connections though
[08:21] <sluimers> I have problems with vmware, eclipse, aptitude and synaptic manager, could anyone help me with this?
[08:21] <eternaljoy> dark112, ty for trying :)  but Pan is not good for me, doesnt support SSL and doesnt support 10 connectins
[08:21] <umop> dark112, have you looked at art.gnome.org
[08:22] <T0uCH> Faentur:  no there is no nvidia
[08:22] <Lathiat> ferronica:  http://www.avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
[08:22] <Faentur> OK!  the kernel module isn't loading, T0uCH!! now we're getting somewhere! :)
[08:22] <T0uCH> :D
[08:22] <dark112> eternaljoy, dont you find that no matter how many connections you can make, its still going to make out your connection?
[08:22] <platman> dark112: quite the swashbuckler you are mate-y
[08:22] <hoho> 
[08:22] <Faentur> T0uCH, did you see nvidia-kernel in the list from the dpkg command?
[08:23] <platman> i would LOVE more connections
[08:23] <ceil420> .....
[08:23] <crdlb> that's a no?
[08:23] <ceil420> that's a no
[08:23] <T0uCH> Faentur:  which one?
[08:23] <ceil420> different error message tho
[08:23] <ceil420> :(
[08:23] <crdlb> ceil420, that's actually good
[08:23] <Faentur> T0uCH, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[08:23] <crdlb> ceil420, what is it?
[08:23] <sluimers> I have problems with vmware, eclipse, aptitude and synaptic manager, could anyone help me with this? First of all aptitude and SPM keep saying any program I want to instal isn't authenticated.
[08:23] <ceil420> "API mismatch: nvidia kernel module has 1.0-7184, X module has 1.0-9755. make sure they match"
[08:23] <T0uCH> Faentur:  i see kernel common
[08:24] <Helmi> downloading files to a smbfs share doesn't work in firefox - downloading in a cifs share works fine - anyone knows why?
[08:24] <crdlb> ugh
[08:24] <ceil420> (took me so long to restart cos i was writing that down)
[08:24] <dark112> i used to use bnr2 for windows, and whether i was using 4 or 8 connections, still maxed out
[08:24] <Faentur> T0uCH, should have nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-<version>, nvidia-kernel-common maybe, and maybe nvidia-kernel-source
[08:24] <ceil420> ugh? why ugh? :(
[08:24] <crdlb> ceil420, because it's not supposed to do that
[08:24] <ceil420> i don't suppose this is something easily reparable with a quick edit of xorg.conf? :(
[08:24] <eternaljoy> dark112, what? LOL
[08:24] <sluimers> I have problems with vmware, eclipse, aptitude and synaptic manager, could anyone help me with this? First of all aptitude and SPM keep saying any program I want to instal isn't authenticated. Second of all, I reinstalled eclipse and now refuses to work.
[08:24] <eternaljoy> dark112, I get 10 connections and its faster than 1 or 4
[08:24] <crdlb> ceil420, it's using the kernel module for nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:24] <eternaljoy> dark112, 10 simultanous connections
[08:25] <dark112> eternaljoy, and we're talking for usenets here?
[08:25] <ceil420> why on earth would it be doing that? ;x
[08:25] <oem_> hey guys
[08:25] <Faentur> T0uCH, do you use apt-get or synaptic manager?
[08:25] <T0uCH> Faentur:  synaptic
[08:25] <fiction> which folder is the current is the current theme im using located? (the icons, etc)
[08:25] <Faentur> T0uCH, you said the search wasn't working, though, right?  does it work now?
[08:25] <sluimers> I have problems with vmware, eclipse, aptitude and synaptic manager, could anyone help me with this? First of all aptitude and SPM keep saying any program I want to instal isn't authenticated. Second of all, I reinstalled eclipse and now refuses to work. Thirdly, vmware-player refuses to be installed correctly and refuses to be deinstallled
[08:25] <snap> whenever i hit printscreen the darn thing not only takes one screencap it wont stop taking them
[08:25] <T0uCH> ooo.. right now you mean
[08:26] <T0uCH> no i am in the terminal
[08:26] <T0uCH> apt-get
[08:26] <crdlb> ceil420, look in the file /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[08:26] <Faentur> T0uCH, are you on feisty?
[08:26] <crdlb> ceil420, and see what DISABLED_MODULES is set to
[08:26] <T0uCH> Faentur:  yes
[08:26] <oem_> i typed in sudo chmod -R u+rwx /root/.*
[08:26] <oem_> am i boned?
[08:26] <dark112> eternaljoy, have you tried bnr2? i just dont know how to install it on linux =p
[08:26] <oem_> i can't sudo anymore
[08:26] <sluimers> I have problems with vmware, eclipse, aptitude and synaptic manager, could anyone help me with this? First of all aptitude and SPM keep saying any program I want to instal isn't authenticated. Second of all, I reinstalled eclipse and now refuses to work. Thirdly, vmware-player refuses to be installed correctly and refuses to be deinstallled. I am using feisty.
[08:27] <T0uCH> but the synaptic works..
[08:27] <eternaljoy> bnr2?
[08:27] <eternaljoy> !bnr2
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bnr2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <ceil420> lol caps lock doesn't work in here
[08:27] <ceil420> crdlb, DISABLED_MODULES=""
[08:27] <dark112> its a good program
[08:27] <dark112> check it out
[08:27] <dark112> def supports atleast 8 connections for windows atleast, and i know theres a linux release
[08:27] <Faentur> T0uCH, try searching for nvidia and tell me what's got a green box (i.e. is installed already)
[08:27] <mwe> sluimers: as for vmware refusing to deinstal, can you try sudo apt-get remove vmware-player or whatever the name is at the terminal and tell me the error?
[08:28] <dark112> binanry news reaper2
[08:28] <ferronica> how to use #demonoid channel
[08:28] <Parmenion> hey guys
[08:29] <oem_> hey guys, my sudo doesn't work anymore...
[08:29] <bullgard4> I downloaded the file ubuntu-multimedia-gnome_7.04-5_i386.deb from http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/feisty-seveas/seveas-meta/. In what directory should I put it?
[08:29] <aslan> hello, have anyone setup xen in feisty ?
[08:29] <T0uCH> nvidia-glx   nvidia-glx-dev    nvidia kernel common Faentur
[08:29] <ceil420> i can't even set up nvidia in feisty -_-
[08:29] <xSUSHix> How do I disable the window zoom effect that happens when I launch a program ?
[08:29] <Parmenion> a question, can I delete folders which ive used to install applications ?
[08:29] <ceil420> and people keep tellin' me it's the linux-friendly card
[08:29] <ceil420> ;x
[08:29] <mwe> bullgard4: you shouldn't download a .deb. you should add the mirror and install with apt-get or synaptic
[08:29] <aslan> bullgard4: I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but if you want ot install it try running sudo dpkg -i /path/to/ubuntu-multimedia-gnome_*.deb
[08:30] <Faentur> T0uCH, ok, you need the nvidia-kernel-2.6.2 as well.
[08:30] <aslan> ceil420: really? nvidia was easy for me.
[08:30] <Faentur> T0uCH, you need the kernel modules
[08:30] <mwe> aslan: they're not meant to be downloaded manually, though.
[08:30] <platman> dark112: bnr2 does indeed have a linux client...
[08:30] <crdlb> ceil420, clearly envy is still interfering :(
[08:30] <bullgard4> mwe, aslan: I need to think about your answers.
[08:30] <aslan> mwe: yes that's true, most of the time
[08:30] <Parmenion> eg, ive taken a driver from /home/~/Desktop?wireless for ndiswrapper . Can i delete it ?
[08:30] <ceil420> aslan, i'm currently using a CLI, because it's not easy for me ;x
[08:30] <xSUSHix> ceil420 my friend runs nvidia and couldnt get the driver to work using feisty's new driver gui thingy       installing the old fashion way works great
[08:30] <oem_> @ Parmenion sudo chmod 777 /yourfolder
[08:30] <mwe> aslan: it's true all of the time for the seveas repos
[08:30] <oem_> then you can delete it
[08:31] <ceil420> xSUSHix, i don't know the old fashion wayc
[08:31] <aslan> mwe: yes that's true, sorry didn't read his whole question I guess.
[08:31] <T0uCH> nvidia kernel source? nvidia new kernel source??
[08:31] <ceil420> crdlb, so what? sudo apt-get remove envy?
[08:31] <ceil420> crdlb, is there a sudo apt-get burn-in-hellfire command? -_-
[08:31] <mwe> !seveas | bullgard4
[08:31] <ubotu> bullgard4: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:31] <crdlb> ceil420, that wouldn't help, it's what envy's done, not the fact that it's installed
[08:31] <dark112> platman, yeah bnr2 is good
[08:32] <dark112> but shhhh
[08:32] <aslan> anyone here know how to setup Xen in feisty ?
[08:32] <Faentur> T0uCH, I have nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-15-386 AND the kernel-source packages installed
[08:32] <ceil420> crdlb, i don't suppose you know how to undo it's daemonic work? ;x
[08:32] <xSUSHix> ceil420 : sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:32] <T0uCH> Faentur:  there is only  : kernel source.. kernel legacy source...
[08:32] <xSUSHix> ceil420 : sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:32] <platman> dark112: the first rule of fight club...., right?
[08:32] <ceil420> again with the different nvidia packages lol
[08:32] <sluimers> mwe, did you get the message?
[08:32] <dark112> hahahaha
[08:32] <xSUSHix> ceil420 and thats it
[08:32] <mwe> sluimers: no
[08:32] <ceil420> xSUSHix, just to make sure, you sure i don't need nvidia-glx-new? because i just installed that earlier
[08:33] <xSUSHix> ceil420 that one works on all my nvidia machines and my friends
[08:33] <crdlb> ceil420, you can use either
[08:33] <ceil420> for my GeForce FX 5200
[08:33] <sluimers> mwe, ah, odd, I thought I opened a private dialog with you
[08:33] <xSUSHix> ceil420 : well if that doesnt work then use the regular one i guess
[08:33] <mwe> sluimers: only registered users can send private messages
[08:33] <ceil420> xSUSHix, i had the 'regular' one at the start of my woes :x
[08:33] <Faentur> T0uCH, huh?  there should be just nvidia-kernel right above nvidia-kernel-common.  OH!  hang on - it's probably universe, let me look
[08:33] <sluimers> ah, where can I send the code then? I know there's a site for it
[08:34] <sluimers> can't remember the name
[08:34] <mwe> !paste | sluimers
[08:34] <ubotu> sluimers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:34] <ceil420> oh my
[08:34] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ok
[08:34] <xSUSHix> How do I disable the window zoom effect thingy that happens when I launch a program ?
[08:34] <oem_> hi
[08:35] <xSUSHix> !hi | oem_
[08:35] <ubotu> oem_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:35] <mwe> xSUSHix: I haven't noticed that effect
[08:35] <oem_> hi
[08:35] <ceil420> "Error: Your X configuration has been altered. The script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe this is not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command..."
[08:35] <ceil420> "otherwise edit xorg.conf from "nv" to "nvidia"
[08:35] <xSUSHix> mwe : like open firefox from a launcher - notice the box that appears and expands before firefox is loaded
[08:35] <xSUSHix> mwe : its a gnome thing
[08:36] <sluimers> vme, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17359/
[08:36] <sluimers> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17359/
[08:36] <fiction> which folder is the current is the current theme im using located? (the icons, etc)
[08:36] <mwe> xSUSHix: odd I don
[08:36] <mwe> xSUSHix: odd I don't get that. only if i minimize a window
[08:36] <xSUSHix> mwe : well wherever that effect is found in configuration - the maximize one is probably there too =\
[08:36] <sethrd> What is a GNOME thing?
[08:36] <Faentur> T0uCH, It looks like it's main.  Maybe because I already have it installed.  In symantic, go to Settings->Repositories and tell me if you've got them all checked on (Main, Multiverse, Universe, and Restricted)
[08:36] <MindOfChaos> yay so
[08:37] <hanzomon4> mwe: I turned it off
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> Ubuntu 7.04 actually works with my computer
[08:37] <Parmenion> lol
[08:37] <ceil420> xSUSHix, i already have the "nvidia" driver selected in xorg.conf. should i do the md5sum update command thing?
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> First linux that has been able to run this computer
[08:37] <mwe> xSUSHix: yeah. I didn't change anything. did you poke about in the menus?
[08:37] <crdlb> ceil420, this is kind of a longshot but try this: sudo lrm-manager
[08:37] <MindOfChaos> No Kernel panic or any thing :D
[08:37] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ok
[08:38] <denis> HI Guys as a newby to Ubuntu 7.04, I have installed avg from their web site ( avg75fld-r45-a0973.i386.deb, it installed automatically, however it wont update says I havent permissiomn, and doesnt auto start, if I start it manually its in tha accessories folder it seems to run ok, any ideas how to get it to update and self start on boot up?
[08:38] <hanzomon4> I've been updating sense dapper, so I don't remember :-P
[08:38] <ceil420> crdlb, cursor went to new line for a few seconds, then i got prompt again. no output
[08:38] <GuHHH> can anyone help me installing php5 module on apache 1.3 (ubuntu feist)
[08:38] <platman> denis: you do not need an antivirus
[08:38] <T0uCH> Faentur:  yes they are all check
[08:38] <crdlb> ceil420, that's supposed to set up the modules
[08:38] <ceil420> crdlb, am i supposed to see anything if it does so? :x
[08:38] <crdlb> ceil420, no, try rebooting now
[08:38] <denis> why not platman
[08:39] <mwe> sluimers: yeah. it seems to be broken. it can't stop or start /etc/init.d/vmware-player. hmm
[08:39] <sebusssss> #ubuntu-pl
[08:39] <xSUSHix> mwe yea theres nothing about it in gconf-editor either - but im sure theres a way to disable it =\
[08:39] <crdlb> I remember seeing it work on the forums once
[08:39] <platman> denis: you will not get any viruses. all the viruses in the wild are mostly windows viruses
[08:39] <ceil420> crdlb, heh k, brb
[08:39] <mwe> xSUSHix: you're probably right
[08:40] <denis> platman ok as a windows long time user that makes me nervous
[08:40] <platman> denis: former windows users are obsessed with anti-virus
[08:40] <platman> just let it go and enjoy the extra ram
[08:40] <bullgard4> mwe: How can I add the mirror http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas list_of_sections  as a repository in my Synaptic?
[08:40] <mwe> sluimers: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware*.postrm ?
[08:40] <sluimers> mwe, errr... I can't find a vmware-player in /etc/init.d/
[08:41] <mwe> bullgard4: I think the page tells you, not?
[08:41] <T0uCH> Faentur:  ?
[08:41] <denis> platman yes and I know why, do I not need anti spyware neither
[08:41] <mwe> sluimers: install again. then remove it I guess
[08:41] <platman> denis: nope
[08:41] <bullgard4> mwe: Probably yes, but I did not understand.
[08:41] <tolonuga> anyone using xen here on feisty? I got xen with the ubuntu xen kernel to work as xen0, but for xen-U it fails (my older self compiled xen 3.0.2 / 2.6.16 works however). anyone else seeing these problems too?
[08:42] <denis> platman, ok I will uninstall the avg then thanks for the info
[08:42] <sluimers> mwe, I'll send you the errors I get when reinstalling ^_^
[08:42] <platman> denis: no prob. just enjoy USING your computer, not maintaining it
[08:42] <Flannel> lgc: yes
[08:42] <denis> platman ok thanks for that
[08:43] <Parmenion> um, but honestly, how often does malware get written for linux ?
[08:43] <xSUSHix> you mean you can use computers for things ?
[08:43] <lgc> Flannel, sorry, yes what?
[08:43] <Flannel> lgc: yes if it's in synaptic, you used package management, and removing it should remove whatever that package installed
[08:43] <Parmenion> is there actually any point of running a anti virus suite on linux ?
[08:43] <T0uCH> Faentur:  i had install nvidia kernel source.. for the others its written nvidia new or nvidia legacy
[08:44] <platman> parmenion: only one. you can still send and receive viruses, they just cant run in your system
[08:44] <platman> so you can infect all of your windows friends
[08:44] <Flannel> Parmenion: some people do it to scan their incoming email (so they don't propogate viruses), and there (can|will|whatever) be viruses on linux, just... not yet
[08:44] <Parmenion> whopee XD platman
[08:44] <sluimers> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17361/
[08:45] <lgc> Flannel, thanks for answering. I'd forgotten the question. I wonder if other installers can mess with the package liss
[08:45] <Parmenion> Flannel: i agree ... but not many people take advantage of holes in the many email clients
[08:45] <Flannel> lgc: yeah.  apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, adept, dpkg, etc all use the same databaes, which is really the strength of it
[08:46] <platman> flannel: the way i figure is that considering the amount of enterprise servers running linux and no one writes viruses for the,
[08:46] <lgc> Flannel, sorry... list of APT. Because I remember I installed Java from their website.
[08:46] <Parmenion> and the best part is Flannel, that the entire structure is modular compared to window's monolithic
[08:46] <platman> the,* ever wonder why?
[08:46] <eumenides> how do i check which ubuntu version i have?
[08:46] <denis> Platman should I uninstall the firewall as well?
[08:46] <platman> keep the firewall
[08:46] <platman> that's the only one you should keep
[08:46] <denis> platman ok
[08:47] <voyt618> Hi everyone. Does anyone here know how to use dmake? I just compiled a file into dmake and am at a complete loss... I know it's a bit off-topic but i can't find anything *anywhere*.
[08:47] <Flannel> platman: Plenty of people have exploited apache things in the past, because some people don't keep their machines up to date.  Servers are really a different beast from desktops though, since you don't really have users using them, just services.  So you have fewer attack vectors
[08:47] <denis> platman: again though I have to start it manually
[08:47] <ceil420> crdlb, sorry to keep you in suspense; went for a drink and microwaved breakfast in the process :x but same error i got last time; nvidia kernel module version doesn't match x module version
[08:47] <vak> Ubuntu like Debian has unusual init/runlevel ideology. can any1 tell me how to skip booting in X (what i normally would do by setting max runlevel as 3) ?
[08:47] <platman> denis: i dont use any firewalls personally, i only keep pr0n and music on my computer
[08:47] <Flannel> denis: firestarter isn't your firewall.  Your firewall is built into the kernel, firestarter is juts a GUI to configure said firewall
[08:48] <platman> if you have anything of similar importance than what does it really matter?
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <Zues_62> does anyone know y ktorrent keeps crashing?
[08:48] <basti> moin
[08:48] <platman> ubuntu's standard firewall policy is "let everything slide"
[08:48] <Parmenion> platman: meaning ?
[08:48] <velko> vak, the default runlevel in debian and ubuntu (with x) is 2
[08:48] <crdlb> ceil420, sorry, envy messed up your setup, but I don't have the slightest idea how to fix it
[08:49] <ceil420> crdlb, thanks for your time :x
[08:49] <platman> parmenion: idk which of my statements you are referencing
[08:49] <Parmenion> ubuntu's standard firewall policy is "let everything slide" platman
[08:49] <vak> velko: right, but how to disable running X in nice way then?
[08:49] <Zues_62> does anyone know?
[08:49] <Flannel> Parmenion: the kernel has the firewall builtin, but there are no rules for it, so it's not doing anything by default.
[08:49] <lgc> Flannel, OK, thanks, man. That should do (for tonight, anyway...:)). But before I go let me ask you one last question: when I type 'apropos <something> I get "gdbm fatal: read error". What could I fiddle with in order to fix that bummer?
[08:49] <platman> there's nothing wrong with loose, that's how i like it
[08:49] <platman> lol
[08:49] <ceil420> does anyone else have any idea how to get the nvidia kernel module version number to match the x module version number?
[08:49] <platman> not really, but yeah
[08:49] <Parmenion> lol alright
[08:49] <velko> vak, rename /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to /etc/rc2.d/off_S13gdm and gdm wont be started
[08:49] <Parmenion> just installed firestarter
[08:50] <denis> Flannel, so I dont need to run the firestarter program unless I want to alter the config.?
[08:50] <velko> vak, or define your custom run level
[08:50] <minahlazer> iiiiiii
[08:50] <vak> velko: sounds like hack for me
[08:50] <Flannel> denis: Right.  Firestarter isn't your firewall, just a rule editor.
[08:50] <velko> vak, there are graphical tools which just create/remove links in this directory
[08:50] <vak> velko: skipping gdm will not skip X as well
[08:50] <denis> Flannel :ok that makes sense thanks
[08:51] <velko> vak, if this is less hackish for you - go for it
[08:51] <Faentur> Hi!  I have a question: I pulled a sound card from my machine (using on-board sound now) but I'm getting ALSA errors: device not found.
[08:51] <velko> vak, oh yes it will
[08:51] <Faentur> I've re-installed ALSA already.  Any ideas?
[08:51] <Parmenion> Flannel: how do i get it to firewall over both eth0 and eth1
[08:51] <vak> velko: oh, interesting
[08:51] <crimsun> Faentur: pastebin the contents of ~/.asoundrc* and/or /etc/asound.conf , then tell me the url.
[08:52] <vak> velko: btw, do you remember the names of these tools?
[08:52] <bloodMuffin> can someone help me repartition between ntfs and ext3
[08:52] <Parmenion> how people how
[08:52] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: exactly what do you need to do ?
[08:52] <rellik_> what is a good lightweight smtp server?  all I need it to do it relay everything to be sent from my Google Apps account using TLS
[08:52] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: i wanted to decrease my windows partition and allocate it to ubuntu
[08:52] <Flannel> lgc: try `sudo mandb -c`
[08:53] <velko> vak, the problem is that you cannot boot in a lower runlevel (0 or 1). so you have to manipulate the links in runlevel 2 or define your own runlevel
[08:53] <bloodMuffin> im using the live cd right now, and i decreased my windows partition already, and the extra space says unusable next to it
[08:53] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: do you have free space on your ntfs partition ?
[08:53] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: yes
[08:53] <Faentur> crimsun, ok, I'll do that.  Hang on
[08:53] <velko> vak, i tried one of them once but was nervous that it will bork my custom scripts and links and stopped using it
[08:53] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: ok, then set it to using the largest contiguous free space
[08:53] <sluimers> mwe, you still there?
[08:54] <velko> vak, you may take a look at www.gnomefiles.org
[08:54] <ceil420> does anyone have any idea how to get the nvidia kernel module version number to match the x module version number?
[08:54] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: hm...i already chose manual and resized my ntfs partition
[08:54] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: personally, i just wiped my windows install; less hassle
[08:54] <vak> velko: i have had to use alternate CD instead of wished ubuntu feisty server distro
[08:54] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: then use the manual mode to partition
[08:55] <velko> vak, is this a question that i don't understand?
[08:55] <vak> velko: and now trying to get my box as much as possible closer to server configuration ;)
[08:55] <velko> vak, ok
[08:55] <ceil420> or at the very least, know of a way to play music from the CLI? i'm dyin' here ;x
[08:55] <Flannel> vak: You have the alternate CD?  Why didn't you install a GUI-less option?
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: i resized my ntfs to a smaller amount, and now i have 60000MB unusable
[08:55] <Flannel> ceil420: mpd
[08:55] <ceil420> lolz that's not installed
[08:55] <vak> flannel: if i could have known :)
[08:55] <ceil420> cheers
[08:55] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: how do i add that to my ext3 partition?
[08:55] <Faentur> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17363/
[08:55] <imbecile> i have a question about gdesklets, how do i add my area to the weather desklet?
[08:55] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: use the manual method
[08:56] <lgc> Flannel, wonderful! Thanks! It did throw some (3-5 of the 'whatis exploration failed for...' type) errors, but who cares, it works now!
[08:56] <Flannel> ceil420: There's a bunch, actually.  Im just partial to mpd + frontend
[08:56] <velko> vak, in my book a server should run as little software as possible. this means no x server. just deinstall the whole x thing
[08:56] <platman> ceil420: mpg123
[08:56] <platman> or alternatively mpg321
[08:56] <sethrd> Anyone care to point me to a guide about installing fonts?
[08:56] <Faentur> crimsun, there's no /etc/asound.conf file.  Just ~/.asound*
[08:56] <Parmenion> um, you cant. unless you wiped the ext3 partition
[08:56] <crimsun> Faentur: please add the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards'', and tell me the new URL
[08:56] <Flannel> !fonts | sethrd
[08:56] <ubotu> sethrd: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:56] <Faentur> crimsun, OK
[08:56] <ceil420> can mpd and mpg123/321 play mp3's? :x
[08:56] <crimsun> ceil420: yes
[08:57] <sethrd> Thanks Flannel.
[08:57] <platman> mpg123 is specifically meant for mp3
[08:57] <ceil420> mpd is started, but how do i use it?
[08:57] <crimsun> ceil420: use a frontend.
[08:57] <ceil420> i have no GUI
[08:57] <ceil420> -_-
[08:57] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: o...so i can only decrease the size of a partition, but not increase?
[08:57] <platman> mpg123 is CLI only
[08:57] <Faentur> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17364/
[08:57] <ceil420> hence the inquiry regarding a CLI player
[08:57] <ceil420> thx platman
[08:57] <Faentur> crimsun, and there's the problem.  /proc shows my real card: that CMI card is the old one
[08:57] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: you can't move the head of a partition, only the tail (only the end, not the beginning)
[08:57] <platman> or like i said, mpg321 also works well
[08:58] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: err ... yes
[08:58] <crimsun> Faentur: you could just rm ~/.asoundrc*
[08:58] <Parmenion> what Flannel said bloodMuffin
[08:58] <vak> velko: all right, deinstall is almost the case for me, but X is my backup emergency door -- if i'd like to shorten some configuration ways i'd like to use GUI-tools (also remotely)
[08:58] <platman> !mpg123
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <velko> vak, wish you good luck
[08:58] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[08:58] <ceil420> o_O
[08:58] <crimsun> !info mpg123-alsa
[08:58] <ubotu> mpg123-alsa: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (feisty), package size 135 kB, installed size 340 kB
[08:59] <Parmenion> Flannel: how do i set the damn firestarter to minimise to the tray ?
[08:59] <crimsun> !info mpg321
[08:59] <ubotu> mpg321: A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.10.3 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 128 kB
[08:59] <ceil420> how do i play random files from, say, /media/zen/Tool?
[08:59] <umop> My samba shares are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broken on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[08:59] <Flannel> Parmenion: no idea
[08:59] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: Flannel: i see...so theres no way to enlarge my ubuntu partition?
[08:59] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[08:59] <bloodMuffin> since im running out of space on it( i created it too small)
[08:59] <umop> bloodMuffin, Gparted
[08:59] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: Uh, well, that depends.  How big is the freespace? and how much stuff do you currently have on your ubuntu partition?
[09:00] <vak> velko: so, i rename script as you told me, and later can run it manually when needed. Hm, but then i have no right way to finish it, right?
[09:00] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to install urban terror please?
[09:00] <Hug1> Hi
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> umop: Gparted, is that an application to resize partitions?
[09:00] <Kubuntulator> where do i find the experimental Cube and wobbly windows in kubuntu-desktop feisty ?
[09:00] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: you can always create a new partition in that freespace, and mount it somewhere.  Although that's not as handy.
[09:00] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[09:00] <umop> bloodMuffin, yes
[09:00] <crdlb> ceil420, you can get a 2d gui with the nv driver
[09:00] <Faentur> crimsun, that did it.  Geez, I feel silly.  :)  THanks!
[09:00] <crimsun> Faentur: np.
[09:00] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: my freespace is only 8 mb, but what i did was resize my ntfs to half of what it was before
[09:00] <Hug1> anyoen can help me with a network problem?
[09:01] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: and now i have 60k "unusable" space sitting there...
[09:01] <Haru> Hug1, ask and hope someone responds :)
[09:01] <Hug1> ok
[09:01] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: right.  So, how much empty space do you have there?  on that partition-less spot?  and how big is your current ubuntu partition?
[09:01] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: 60k?
[09:01] <chosebine> hug1: your network connection is working ;)
[09:01] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to install urban terror please?
[09:01] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: current ubuntu partition has 12.5 GB
[09:01] <platman> ceil420: i use mpg321 and it's just mpg321 file.mp3
[09:02] <umop> acidtabs, there is not readme?
[09:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone here use Steam?
[09:02] <ExpositionOfEvil> by valve
[09:02] <acidtabs> i don/t understand it
[09:02] <ceil420> platman, say you messed up and did "mpg123 -Z /media/zen/Tool" and are now being spammed with endless "No such file or directory"... how would you stop that? :x
[09:02] <acidtabs> i tryed a website
[09:02] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: and how big is the empty space?  since, I dont think it's 60k
[09:02] <chosebine> ExpositionOfEvil, :yes, but not under linux
[09:02] <acidtabs> with a tut but that did not work
[09:02] <Hug1> I have two ethernets in the same computer, eth0 and eth1. eth1 has internet and eth0 is internal network. They have different ip's but they should be able to have the same subnet mask. But if I put the same subnet mask (255.255.255.0) I lose internet from eth1
[09:02] <acidtabs> for some reason
[09:02] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: I resized my ntfs partition from 118GB down to 60G, and there is now ~60GB of 'unusable' space
[09:02] <umop> acidtabs, whats the error
[09:02] <umop> bloodMuffin, boot a live disc and use gparted
[09:03] <crdlb> ceil420, ctrl+C gives the interrupt signal
[09:03] <ceil420> crdlb, you're saying i can get a GUI just by changing "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg.conf?
[09:03] <crdlb> ceil420, yes
[09:03] <crdlb> just no 3d accel
[09:03] <jaypro> is there a way to upgrade your operating system from 6.06 server to 7.04 desktop without completely reinstalling the system?
[09:03] <ceil420> yeah, i tried that, it didn't stop :x
[09:03] <Hug1> the weirdest thing is that if I put 255.255.255.1 in eth0 then internet works, but when I check the network status it sais eth0 subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
[09:03] <ceil420> same with break, ctrl+break, and esc
[09:03] <bloodMuffin> umop: hm im running off the live disc right now...
[09:03] <Hug1> and also a subnet mask should not finish in 1
[09:03] <Hug1> anyone?
[09:03] <acidtabs> http://gaming.gwos.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.68 the website that i was trying to use to installl it
[09:03] <vak> velko: LOL, i am still sleeping. One doesn't need X on server's side for remote sessions
[09:03] <chosebine> hugl: did you try with ifconfig?
[09:03] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: Oh.  Ok.  So, this will take a smidge of working, but it's doable.  Create a partition there (ext3)  then mount both of those partitions, and copy the contents of your 12GB one into the 60GB one
[09:03] <acidtabs> and the problem started when i was at the chmod
[09:03] <umop> bloodMuffin, then start gparted and go for it
[09:03] <Haru> jaypro, use "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[09:03] <acidtabs> part
[09:03] <Hug1> cosebine yes
[09:04] <ExpositionOfEvil> jaypro look at System: Administration: Update Manager
[09:04] <vak> velko: even if GUI tools are wished
[09:04] <ceil420> crdlb, you know how to "crash" the second... ctrl+alt+F2 thing (what's that called? :x)
[09:04] <Flannel> bloodMuffin: then once that's done, you delete your 12GB one, and expand your 60 to 72.
[09:04] <ceil420> ?
[09:04] <Flannel> ceil420: tty
[09:04] <crdlb> jaypro, you have to go dapper>edgy>feisty
[09:04] <jaypro> ExpositionOfEvil> you cant do that from 6.06 SERVER
[09:04] <ceil420> what's tty mean?
[09:04] <billybob> that would be apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:04] <Flannel> !upgrade | jaypro
[09:04] <ubotu> jaypro: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:05] <ceil420> !tty
[09:05] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[09:05] <chosebine> Hug1, you are not able to ping yor gateway?
[09:05] <ExpositionOfEvil> anyone use Steam on wine?
[09:05] <ceil420> wish i had a graphical login :x
[09:05] <ceil420> so how do i crash tty2?
[09:05] <crdlb> ceil420, you can run top so see the process id
[09:05] <jaypro> Haru> "sudo aptitude upgrade"? oh i thought those were just minor updates
[09:05] <Flannel> ceil420: TeleTYpewriter
[09:05] <ceil420> sounds old school :p
[09:05] <billybob> they are . . .
[09:06] <platman> ceil420: switch to a different terminal and type killall mpg123
[09:06] <Haru> jaypro, :)
[09:06] <Delco> hey
[09:06] <crdlb> and if that doesn't work add a -1
[09:06] <crdlb> then as a last resort -9
[09:06] <billybob> dist-upgrade AFTER changing your list.conf
[09:06] <Hug1> d
[09:06] <billybob> upgrade just upgrades packages
[09:06] <ceil420> "Terminated" mrawr
[09:07] <W_o_r[l] d> !mtab
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Hug1> chosebine wich gateway? my own computer or the router with internet acces?
[09:07] <crdlb> ceil420, the nv driver doesn't even use a kernel module
[09:07] <chosebine> hugl: the router
[09:07] <W_o_r[l] d> !fstab
[09:07] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:07] <Hug1> I can now
[09:07] <Hug1> let me try changing the subnet mask
[09:07] <bloodMuffin> Flannel: it wont let me format the unusable 60GB space
[09:08] <ceil420> crdlb, groovie. hopefully next time i'm in here, it'll be from xchat :x
[09:08] <ceil420> no offense to fans of text, but irssi's ugly :(
[09:08] <shirish> guys isn't there a desktop-effects channel?
[09:08] <crdlb> yeah I couldn't get used to it
[09:08] <ceil420> #ubuntu-effects
[09:08] <shirish> !desktop-effects
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <crdlb> shirish, #ubuntu-effects
[09:08] <Haru> shirish, ubuntu-effects
[09:09] <wood> no
[09:09] <shirish> ok thanx guys
[09:09] <jaypro> hrmm.. thanks fellas!
[09:09] <umop> My samba shares are not mounting for some reason how can i find the error, the permission get broken on the dir i'm mounting to, they are '?---------  ? ?      ?          ?   ?'
[09:09] <billybob> 'My samba shares are not mounting for some reason' is rather a broad question
[09:10] <bloodMuffin> umop: i open gparted, and i see 4 partitions and 1 unallocated space
[09:10] <aldin> i just recompiled kernel and if i put anything like vga=791 my screen is blak till gdm... it is ok is i leave it without vga parameter
[09:10] <bloodMuffin> umop: it wont let me create a partition in the unallocated
[09:10] <Hug1> chosebine:  either way I can ping the router
[09:10] <Hug1> I think I know whats going on
[09:11] <umop> bloodMuffin, what does it say?
[09:11] <Hug1> its a rout problem
[09:11] <amb> so anyone want to help with a fun and exciting kubuntu feisty alternative install problem?
[09:11] <aldin> what should i enable?
[09:11] <wood> 
[09:11] <bloodMuffin> umop: 'it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions'
[09:11] <Hug1> Does anybody knows how I edit the iptables?
[09:11] <Hug1> or a link to see how iptables work?
[09:11] <chosebine> hugl: with you subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on your both network adapter you are able to ping your router?
[09:11] <aldin> Hug1: u firestarter it is frontend for iptables AFAIK
[09:11] <ceil420> crdlb, if i wasn't so damned hetero, i'd e-shagg you
[09:11] <Hug1> chosebin yes
[09:11] <ceil420> XD
[09:11] <billybob> umop: http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 will give you an idea what needs to be done, skip the domain controller/CUPS part . . .
[09:11] <cypherdelic> How to use VMWarePlayer with DualCore and 64bit support, on a dualcore cpu with Feisty AMD64 latest kernel???
[09:11] <ceil420> the colours!
[09:12] <ceil420> the GUI!
[09:12] <crdlb> heh
[09:12] <bloodMuffin> umop: from left to right i have [ntfs] [ext3] [linux-swap] [ntfs] [unallocated] 
[09:12] <ceil420> the little flashy mouse splash screen!
[09:12] <ceil420> it's all beautiful!
[09:12] <Parmenion> lol ceil420
[09:12] <umop> billybob, okay
[09:12] <Parmenion> :P
[09:12] <ceil420> :D
[09:12] <zerothis> how do i add a local directory as a package source?
[09:12] <billybob> umop: when all else fails, 'man samba' ;)
[09:12] <umop> bloodMuffin, it wont let you make it a ext3 partition?
[09:12] <Haru> zerothis, just use dpkg -i fielname.deb
[09:12] <platman> ceil420: the only time i get THAT excited to see brown is after a stomachache
[09:12] <ceil420> (but srsly tho, there should be an apt-get burn-in-hellfire command)
[09:12] <umop> billybob, yeah maybe
[09:12] <chosebine> Hug1:download ethereal and try to access a website on the internet, if it's not working, see what is the problem with the ethereal log
[09:13] <ceil420> platman, lmfao
[09:13] <Hug1> chosebin I have done route -v in both cases and the problem is that when both have 255.255.255.0 eth0 appears as default option for conections as well and it shouldnt because it doesnt have internet. but when eth0 has 255.255.255.1 then it doesnt appear as default gateway
[09:13] <Hug1> so its a problem with iptables
[09:13] <Hug1> with routing
[09:13] <mnk> hi all. i am using dell mediadirect on my machine and if i install ubuntu grub will be installed into the mbr. that means that the mediadirect button won't work any more. is there anyway around that?
[09:13] <Hug1> anybody knows how to use iptables or a web page?
[09:13] <ssaa> hello. I have a little question : what's the equivalent of alsamixer but for oss?
[09:13] <bloodMuffin> umop: yea it says i cant have more than 4 primary partitions
[09:13] <Hug1> chosebine:  Ill try ethereal its a network control program isnt it?
[09:13] <Parmenion> damn, im getting hungry
[09:13] <mnk> ie during the install, can i install grub into somewhere other than the mbr to preserve my current mbr?
[09:13] <billybob> umop: in short, you NEED to make a system user, add that user to samba, then set appropriate permissions.
[09:13] <platman> mnk: you can just NOT install grub
[09:14] <Parmenion> max is three primary
[09:14] <ceil420> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[09:14] <ceil420>   module-assistant xserver-xorg-dev dh-make
[09:14] <mnk> platman: so how do i then boot into linux?
[09:14] <ceil420> xserver-xorg-dev sounds important :o is it safe to remove that?
[09:14] <umop> bloodMuffin, it doesnt really matter, we want to grow a partition to take up that space yeah?
[09:14] <Parmenion> you need to make logical partitions then bloodMuffin
[09:14] <ceil420> (no idea what the other two are; they prolly came with envy or something)
[09:14] <florg> hi, does anyone know where to get the Murrine Metacity theme? All the links seem to be broken, referring to http://gnomethemes.org/2006/07/22/murrine-metacity-preview/
[09:14] <platman> you can ghetto rig the windows bootloader to boot the linux kernel
[09:15] <thebillywayne> !info e17 feisty
[09:15] <ubotu> Package e17 does not exist in feisty
[09:15] <mnk> platman: i am using crappy vista - do u know how i can do that pls?
[09:15] <chosebine> hugl:no, a packet analyser, you can follow the communication between the equipment and see were it doesnt work
[09:15] <platman> mnk: http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html
[09:15] <bloodMuffin> i click on the unallocated space, i choose new partition, and it gives me that notice
[09:15] <billybob> anyhow, hottub time !
[09:15] <platman> mnk: idk about Vista though
[09:15] <Parmenion> Vista is a bitch
[09:15] <Parmenion> apologies for my vulgarities, but really
[09:16] <Parmenion> vista is annoying.
[09:16] <billybob> there is a tool, for editing the Vista bootloder, but I can not remember the name
[09:16] <ceil420> Parmenion, i believe it :p
[09:16] <platman> parmenion is using foul language: cancel or allow?
[09:16] <salaah> can someone tell me why my wlan doesnt auto connect on startup and what i ca do about it pleasE?
[09:16] <Parmenion> lol :P platman
[09:16] <mnk> ok thanks platman, what r the chances that it will be the same in vista? also, how do i tell the ubuntu installer not to install grub pls?
[09:16] <ceil420> :p
[09:16] <amb> So no one knows why an alternative cd install would crap out at the Select and Install Software section, and all following sections?
[09:16] <chosebine> Parmenion:nobody here will trow you the first stone for cursing windows!
[09:16] <papatwilight> IMO Ubuntu nock Vista off it chair and beets it's but in every way
[09:17] <bloodMuffin> umop: Parmenion, my gparted looks like the following :    [  ntfs ]  [ext3] [linux-swap] [     ntfs   ]  [ unallocated   ] 
[09:17] <Parmenion> amb: is the iso verified ?
[09:17] <ceil420> oh it feels so good to click again
[09:17] <ceil420> i don't even care if i never play UT, I CAN CLICK!
[09:17] <platman> for mnk: does anyone remember if you can choose NOT to install grub when installing? you can in EVERY other distro
[09:17] <ceil420> :x
[09:17] <amb> Parmenion, first thing I did.. yes
[09:17] <Parmenion> amb: do a disk defect check, if it hangs, reburn
[09:17] <imbecile> i have a question about gdesklets, how do i add my city to the weather desklet?
[09:17] <billybob> triple boot vista/XP/Ubuntu ---> http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-how-to-tripleboot-windows-xp-vista-and-ubuntu-193474.php
[09:17] <billybob> ok, i really am gone nnow
[09:17] <billybob> HOTTUB !
[09:17] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm having problems with mounting a network hard drive. I'm able to mount it, but only so that root has write access to it? Any ideas how I can mount it so that other usernames will have write access as well?
[09:18] <umop> bloodMuffin, you want to grow the ext3 to take the unnallocated space yeah?
[09:18] <Parmenion> amb: then wait a little longer? just a suggestion... unless you waited too long already
[09:18] <chosebine> imbecile:tu dois trouver le code correspondant  ta ville
[09:18] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: are you using the second ntfs ?
[09:18] <salaah> can someone please help me
[09:18] <amb> Parmenion, it doesn't hang it reports that there was an error
[09:18] <imbecile> !fr | chosebine
[09:18] <ubotu> chosebine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:18] <bloodMuffin> Parmenion: yes, id rather keep it intact if theres a way around deleting it
[09:18] <platman> sorry mnk: i install so many distro's a really don't remember
[09:19] <Parmenion> amb: O.o did you check if the md5s for the iso which you downloaded
[09:19] <amb> Parmenion. I'll go try that
[09:19] <papatwilight> amarok is awsome :)
[09:19] <bloodMuffin> umop: it wont let me grow i think since there exists an ntfs partition and a linux-swap partition between my ext3 and the unallocated
[09:19] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: a little out of my league then sorry . and i agree with your inference
[09:20] <mnk> ok thanks anyway platman
[09:20] <darren> ohh  what a crap day today was
[09:20] <Hug1> finally!!!
[09:20] <Hug1> got it working
[09:20] <chosebine> imbecile : sorry, your nick fool me
[09:20] <platman> bloodmuffin: try the gparted livecd with clonezilla
[09:20] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: wipe the linux swap then
[09:20] <chosebine> Hug1: what did you change?
[09:20] <mnk> does anyone else know if i have the choice of not installing grub on install in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Parmenion> then mess around some more.
[09:20] <Hug1> chosebin thanks for listening
[09:20] <platman> it lets you clone partitions so you can move them around then fixate
[09:20] <Parmenion> mnk: yes you can
[09:20] <imbecile> chosebine, no problem :)
[09:20] <darren> anyone have dual monitor  working ?
[09:20] <Hug1> chosebine:  I was putting a gateway in my eth0 (internal network) configuration
[09:20] <umop> bloodMuffin, thats true, there is probably a way to shuffle them, buts its up to you, like unallocating swap, then resizing the nts, etc till you have space nxt to ext3
[09:20] <Hug1> and I shouldnt have
[09:20] <Hug1> know its fine
[09:21] <dirrty> yes duals here
[09:21] <Parmenion> after you partition and before installing, you can press the advanced button
[09:21] <darren> hi  filthy
[09:21] <Parmenion> then select what you wanted
[09:21] <darren> :)
[09:21] <chosebine> you can't have to gateway
[09:21] <chosebine> two
[09:21] <chosebine> sorry for my poor english...
[09:21] <mnk> ok thanks Parmenion
[09:21] <Parmenion> but really mnk, unless you know where exactly the kernel your going to call is, id suggest to sticking to grub
[09:22] <Hug1> chosebine I know now
[09:22] <platman> parmenion: you can always find out with windows. there is an ext3 driver available for windows
[09:22] <Hug1> XD
[09:22] <darren> dirrty?
[09:22] <zerothis> Haru: so I have to 1-at-a-time local packages, i can't add a whole directory?
[09:22] <platman> it works suprisingly well
[09:22] <mnk> Parmenion: the problem is dell mediadirect won't work cos grub overwrites the mbr. dell MD is a button u press that boots into dell's own 'OS' and lets u play media files etc...
[09:22] <Parmenion> platman: really?!? cool ...
[09:23] <Haru> zerothis, do dpkg -i *.deb
[09:23] <mnk> Parmenion: is there a way of installing grub not on the mbr?
[09:23] <Parmenion> mnk: i see .... then you have no choice but to use the windows bootloader
[09:23] <Haru> zerothis, will do all at once
[09:23] <chosebine> hugl: the gateway is the default-route-when-I-dont-know-where-this-network-is
[09:23] <platman> parmenion: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[09:23] <Hug1> chosebin thats why I was losing internet
[09:23] <Parmenion> mnk: i think you could install grub on a thumb drive :P its been done before
[09:23] <Hug1> I understand now
[09:24] <Parmenion> but i cant help you with that, you would have to google it
[09:24] <mnk> lol Parmenion
[09:24] <Parmenion> thanks platman
[09:24] <platman> no prob
[09:25] <Haru> btw how does open source generate revenue
[09:25] <Haru> ubuntu for that matter
[09:25] <Haru> donations only?
[09:25] <mahmoud_> support services
[09:26] <NewNickname> after i compile kernel from source how do i make initrd?
[09:26] <chosebine> hugl: if you ping google (72.14.205.103) both of your network adapter dont know these network, only their 192.168.0.x/24, the gateway is the adresse of the network where you send all the packet adressed to a network you dont know
[09:26] <crimsun> NewNickname: you likely want mkinitramfs instead.
[09:26] <platman> haru: canonical sends out ninjas to do their bidding. they are pretty good at coercing you into giving them money.
[09:26] <cyberfr0g> sup
[09:26] <Haru> platman, lol
[09:27] <Haru> platman, i was thinking if open source media would work too :)
[09:27] <chowmeined> Haru: you think he is joking..
[09:27] <Haru> :fear:
[09:28] <aldi1> crimsun: do u know command and other (mkinitrd *** ***)
[09:28] <platman> media as in music and television?
[09:28] <Haru> platman, yea
[09:28] <chowmeined> they have open source plans
[09:28] <chowmeined> its called DRM
[09:28] <Parmenion> lol chowmeined
[09:28] <Haru> rofl
[09:28] <Delco> that little thing called YouTube will never make it. its open source
[09:28] <Haru> chowmeined, i wonder how they get the movey to hire ninjas in the first place
[09:29] <platman> haru: have you met linux zealots? they do it willingly
[09:29] <Gabz> Haru:  Mark made acouple millon dollars then decided he wanted his own OS
[09:29] <Parmenion> lol
[09:29] <chosebine> if it's the end of audio drm soon, do you think it will be the same for the multimedia one?
[09:29] <Aaronfromchina> i'm using Kile to write some Chinese docs, but Kile does NOT seem to support Chinese. Should I install any extra package?
[09:29] <platman> DOWN WITH SONY
[09:29] <Haru> Gabz, whos mark :S
[09:30] <chowmeined> DRM doesnt work
[09:30] <umop> Gabz, *Distribution
[09:30] <chowmeined> all it does is piss off regular people
[09:30] <chosebine> amen
[09:30] <Parmenion> marl shuttleworth
[09:30] <kaptengu> I have a serious problem, I suddenly can't read my NTFS-parition, in partition editor it says "Unknown partition", can I rescue this disk in some way?
[09:30] <chowmeined> and it means profession pirates make more $$$ cause its more difficult
[09:30] <Gabz> umop:  yes distrubtion sorry
[09:30] <bloodMuffin> what is an extended partition?
[09:30] <Parmenion> *mark shuttleworth Haru
[09:30] <chowmeined> bloodMuffin: Its a way to allow more than 4 partitions  with dos disk labels
[09:31] <jijutm> hi all downloaded the dvd image.. but my laptop does not have a dvd drive, nor does it boot from usb and no floppy drives too .. I have managed to boot using the kernel on the cd, by copying that and putting in the boot folder, since I am having RedHat 9 on the system with grub. Can I coax it to install from iso image on harddisk.
[09:31] <chosebine> jijutm:install it from a cd!
[09:31] <Gabz> jijutm: why can't use just use the cd install disk ?
[09:31] <jijutm> I said I dont have a cd drive
[09:31] <platman> all i want to know is when nintendo will let me play movies on my wii
[09:31] <platman> and give me better games
[09:32] <chosebine> jijutm: you said (write) dvd
[09:32] <Gabz> jijutm: does it have a network card ?
[09:32] <jijutm> sorry.. meant so.. since I did download the dvd
[09:32] <Parmenion> err jijutm ... its kinda not possible ...
[09:32] <jijutm> yes it has a network card
[09:32] <Dalziel_86> Hi, I have a question about xdmcp and vnc
[09:32] <jijutm> parmenion: Redhat had that option..
[09:33] <Haru> btw is there a ubuntu install and not a ubuntu-desktop-install cd ?
[09:33] <platman> Has anybody tried installing ubuntu from a PUD disc?
[09:33] <bloodMuffin> chowmeined: thanks
[09:33] <jijutm> gabz: so I will need to go for a network install ?
[09:33] <Parmenion> jijutm: agreed ...
[09:33] <mrcreativity> platman: whats a PUD disk?
[09:33] <Gabz> jijutm: you maybe able to use another computer and install ubuntu using your network card
[09:33] <Parmenion> Haru: its called the server install
[09:33] <platman> PUD is a ubuntu spinoff
[09:33] <mrcreativity> i c
[09:33] <Parmenion> or use the alternate cd Haru
[09:33] <Haru> Parmenion, why server :S
[09:33] <platman> its only 200MB or so in size
[09:33] <Parmenion> Haru: barebones .
[09:34] <Haru> Parmenion, oki ... i thoguht it was a different distro
[09:34] <kaptengu> jijutm: I think you can configure grub to use an iso at start-up
[09:34] <platman> it uses the feisty repos, so you can basically use it as an install disc
[09:34] <Parmenion> or the alternate cd
[09:34] <jijutm> kaptengu: thanks.. Will look that now..
[09:34] <Gabz> jijutm: google ubuntu on tap... they made a network install server
[09:35] <jijutm> gabz: no problem.. I have plenty of machines at spare.. am currently in our office..
[09:35] <Dalziel_86> I want to remote administer a Feisty box using xdmcp or vnc. I like VNC, but its slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what VNC can do. Anyone know if I can login to the current session using XDMCP?
[09:35] <feAR`> maybe somebody uses ubuntu on mac?
[09:36] <dzdzysty> cze
[09:36] <jijutm> and mostly our developers are getting a nightmare.. due to my latest craze !ubuntu!
[09:36] <platman> alrite everyone i'm out. i have a final tomorrow. later
[09:36] <chosebine> I have a partition who is mounted automatically at boot, but there is nothing about this partition in my /etc/fstab, someone know a other place where you can mount a partition at boot?
[09:36] <jijutm> since we are migrating all developers php, java, content, web to ubuntu desktops..
[09:37] <Gabz> jijutm: read this aswell https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:37] <dzdzysty> czesc jest tu ktos
[09:37] <Parmenion> jijutm: what firm are you working for ?
[09:38] <dzdzysty> hsg
[09:38] <Dalziel_86> Can anyone give me a hand here?
[09:38] <sethrd> !fonts
[09:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:38] <Parmenion> Dalziel_86: describe your problem :P
[09:39] <dzdzysty> jest tu ktos z polski
[09:39] <bloodMuffin> if i create a new partition with gparted and select the copy button to copy everything from my old ext3 to the new ext3, is it the exact same thing?
[09:39] <Dalziel_86> I want to remote administer a Feisty box using xdmcp or vnc. I like VNC, but its slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what VNC can do. Anyone know if I can login to the current session using XDMCP?
[09:39] <dzdzysty> poland
[09:40] <Gabz> !po
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Gabz> !poland
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poland - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Parmenion> Dalziel_86: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO
[09:40] <Dalziel_86> The Feisty box acts as a wireless access point/file server/p2p client. I want to be able to config wireless, move files around, and most importantly, add/remove things from p2p clients.
[09:40] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: you can use ltsp
[09:40] <Parmenion> ^it might not be what your looking for, but it might help
[09:40] <Gabz> !pl dzdzysty
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pl dzdzysty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Gabz> !pl | dzdzysty
[09:40] <ubotu> dzdzysty: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:41] <dzdzysty> sekiu
[09:41] <Dalziel_86> I can do all that with VNC, but it's slow. XDMCP is faster, but I don't know if it can do what I want.
[09:41] <dzdzysty> bay bay
[09:41] <Parmenion> sorry Dalziel_86, ive never used XDMCP before :\ sorry im unable to assist
[09:41] <dark112> whatever happened to go ol' hotline
[09:42] <Parmenion> !linux
[09:42] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> I have both XDMCP and VNC set up fine and working, I just don't know how to get xdmcp to do what I want, and to be honest I'm not sure if it can...
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: what is ltsp?
[09:42] <Parmenion> !beryl
[09:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:42] <Dalziel_86> !ltsp
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <sethrd> Does anyone have the artwiz fonts installed and working?
[09:43] <jijutm> parmenion: sorry.. I just wandered on the net to find how I can force grub to boot from ISO.. you asked me.. and the answer is Saturn India.. http://www.saturn.in
[09:43] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: it can, ltsp is a project to make a thin client server in linux for school, it is working fine
[09:43] <bloodMuffin> !gparted
[09:43] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:44] <bloodMuffin> about how long will it take to copy a 15GB partition?
[09:44] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: it use xdmcp to carry the user input/output by network and it is fast
[09:44] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: Hrmm... okay, that sounds interesting, I'll look into it. My main requirement is that the Feisty box be able to just keep running my programs unattended, even if I disconnect from it.
[09:45] <Gabz> bloodMuffin: between 30 mins and hours....
[09:45] <Parmenion> jijutm:dont mind,but this page is a little weird http://www.saturn.in/others/introduction.html
[09:45] <bloodMuffin> Gabz: ouch thanks.
[09:45] <Parmenion> the part "We are least interested in satisfying our clients!"
[09:46] <Gabz> bloodMuffin:  depends how what your copying to how good your hdd is if you have a new machine it's not a problem if you going over the network have lunch first
[09:46] <jijutm> parmenion: what is the problem?? any thing wrong ?
[09:46] <Parmenion> the part "We are least interested in satisfying our clients!"
[09:46] <chosebine> Dalziel_86: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[09:46] <Gabz> Parmenion:  lol
[09:46] <jijutm> haaa.. we are more interested in satisfying the clients of our clients.. (B2B)
[09:47] <eNtRoPiA> goood morning ^_^
[09:47] <Parmenion> :P its a little awkwardly worded, that's all XD
[09:47] <Parmenion> it just leaped out at me when i browsed through
[09:48] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: will LTSP allow me to log in to a currently running session, and do something simple like start a torrent downloading in ktorrent?
[09:48] <jijutm> parmenion: thanks.. we just wanted people to notice it..
[09:49] <Dalziel_86> chosebine: the problem I have with XDMCP is that it doesn't want to let me log in to the current session and administer programs running there. It wants me to start a new session, and run programs in that.
[09:50] <jacquesmerde> yo, i've installed bluez-gnome and connected my phone to my computer via hcid bluetooth. now i want to be able to send files to it via "send to..." which obex package do i want?
[09:53] <_Rappy_> are there some way to run Internet Explorer on ubuntu? without emulators? I need to check that my webpage displays porperly in IE...
[09:54] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: you could run it in WINE, or in a virtual machine running Windows.
[09:55] <PloneDudez> hi everyone
[09:55] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: neither of those is an emulator, but I suspect you're conflating emulating with virtualisation
[09:55] <jacquesmerde> WINE is an emulator. you'll have to e-mail bill and steve and ask them to port internet explorer to linux
[09:55] <dac> hi
[09:56] <Dalziel_86> WINE is not an emulator. Says so right in the name. :D
[09:56] <kurtti> no, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[09:56] <_Rappy_> no, but it's commonly refferd to one. I know what option I got with virtualizations, wine and emus I meant are ther esome kind of packs that just kan be installed?
[09:57] <PloneDudez> lets say, i wanna combine two commands into one ... like currently i always do this "cd folder/;ls" ...one of my frenz told me to configure the .bashrc but i am not aware how..anyone knoes..
[09:57] <zaggynl> Dalziel_86, it's kinda hard to explain, how would you explain what wine is?
[09:57] <ep|k> dasat je mambng beryl
[09:57] <zaggynl> a set of API's that...emulate windows?
[09:57] <ep|k> hahaha
[09:57] <Dalziel_86> WINE is, essentially, something that fools applications into thinking they're running in Windows.
[09:57] <foug> how do i exit nano?
[09:58] <kurtti> ctrl-x
[09:58] <valehru> zaggynl, wine is not an emulator
[09:58] <dabaR> where is slashnet(URL)
[09:58] <Dalziel_86> WINE provides the APIs that applications hook into in Windows
[09:58] <foug> kurtti: thanks
[09:58] <valehru> !wine
[09:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:58] <_Rappy_> PloneDudez : in the .bashrc file (which resides in your home dir) there are exmapes of how to create your own custom commands. I.e. I use LL to do the LS -L
[09:58] <valehru> :), ggood ol' ubotu
[09:58] <tdmme> hey all
[09:59] <_Rappy_> ack, I'll just fire up a *shudders* windows PC. Thanks guys.
[09:59] <bloodMuffin> some help with partitions please
[09:59] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: For testing a webpage, your best option is probably virtualisation.
[09:59] <zaggynl> valehru, yes yes, I get that all the time, but how to explain _what_ wine actually is then?
[09:59] <tdmme> I just updated my ubuntu 6.10 machine, rebooted, and now I got many applications without text in the menu's or with missing characters.... any idea how to fix it?
[09:59] <valehru> zaggynl, let them risk the wrath of asking on the winehq channel....
[10:00] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: Run something like VMware, install Windows in it, and test away.
[10:00] <valehru> zaggynl, Enverex is a stand up guy for that.
[10:00] <PloneDudez> _Rappy_: this command runs without any input parameters, but cd "input parameter";ls ...i am not aware of the input parameter part..
[10:00] <zaggynl> on the other hand...nah
[10:00] <valehru> _Rappy_, You can run IExplorer in wine
[10:00] <zaggynl> ie4linux
[10:00] <PloneDudez> The syntax part i mean..
[10:00] <stefg> tdmme: create a new user-account and test, if it's the same there. Might be a problem if you use a custom theme
[10:00] <bloodMuffin> help with partitions: i created a new ext3 partition and used gparted's copy button to copy my old ext3 to the new ext3
[10:01] <bloodMuffin> can i delete my old one ?
[10:01] <tdmme> stefg, I use the default ubuntu theme
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, have you tried gparted?
[10:01] <zaggynl> I have this problem, I'm downloading from usenet, and this give problems with our telephone (it's voip), and trickle doesn't really work for bandwidth shaping
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, its a fairly easy to use partition manager in gnome
[10:01] <valehru> bloodMuffin, sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:01] <Dalziel_86> _Rappy_: I wouldn't use WINE with IE for testing webpages, as the compatibility layer means that things might render quit differently than they would in a native Windows IE
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: i had problems because i wanted to expand my ext3 partition but it was sandiwched between two ntfs partitions
[10:02] <Ademan> anyone know how xfce gnome and kde store the "preffered applications" ?  and more importantly, the command for launching a terminal emulator
[10:02] <stefg> tdmme: hmmm... do you use a nvidia-card and have the option "RenderAccel" "True" in xorg.conf?
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: so i resized the second ntfs, created a new ext3 partition there, and used copy
[10:02] <PloneDudez> Anyone Knows how to combine two commands into One command
[10:02] <bloodMuffin> valehru: i am using gparted btw
[10:02] <haru> PloneDudez, combine ??
[10:03] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: piping maybe?
[10:03] <MajorApus> can someone help me modify my fstab to make my mounted drives have the correct permision
[10:03] <stefg> MajorApus: paste your fstab to pastebin
[10:04] <Ademan> zaggynl: well on windows when a windows application uses the win32 API (as they all do) it goes through win32.dll which talks to the windows kernel, which talks to the hardware.  ESSENTIALLY wine is a different version of win32.dll that talks to the linux kernel instead of the windows kernel
[10:04] <PloneDudez> Like currently, I do "cd folder/;ls" but i wanna create a new command like cdls folder/ or sumtin
[10:04] <zaggynl> Ademan, so, it's a layer of API's, which could be described as an emulator?
[10:04] <haru> PloneDudez, make a .sh file
[10:04] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: write a bash script
[10:04] <kblin> morning folks
[10:04] <tdmme> stefg, yes I got an nvidia-card with RenderAccel True in my xorg.conf
[10:04] <haru> and put it in /usr/bin
[10:05] <MajorApus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17365/
[10:05] <Dalziel_86> PloneDudez: what haru said
[10:05] <PloneDudez> do i modify the bashrc file
[10:05] <MajorApus> stefg: two of them (winxp and data1) are ntfs, data2 is ext3 and data3 is fat32
[10:05] <Ademan> zaggynl: well it's a re-implementation of the win32 API (among other things) which isn't an emulator in the traditional sense, but i suppose you could call it one using a different definition
[10:05] <stefg> tdmme: comment that RenderAccell option out.... problems with newer drivers
[10:05] <haru> PloneDudez, not needed.. just make a filename.sh file.. change permissions to make it exceutable.. and put in /usr/bin
[10:06] <tdmme> stefg, oke, I'll try that. Thanks
[10:06] <stefg> MajorApus: paste your fstab to pastebin
[10:06] <Ademan> zaggynl: it doesn't do what a SNES or sega genesis emulator does (which is interpret the program with software)
[10:06] <MajorApus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17365/
[10:06] <Ademan> which is why they say WINE is not an emulator
[10:06] <Dalziel_86> zaggyn: WINE doesn't emulate anything. It's more like a port.
[10:06] <zaggynl> hmm
[10:07] <Ademan> especially since "emulator" implies a lot of lag, they avoid the term
[10:07] <Ademan> but i think technically, by the dictionary definition of emulator, it is one
[10:07] <zaggynl> either way, it rocks :>
[10:07] <Ademan> indeed :-)
[10:08] <stefg> MajorApus: HUH... there are a lot f broken lines in your fstab
[10:08] <Dalziel_86> zaggyn, Ademan: it's not really definitionally an emulator, because it doesn't simulate/emulate anything. It's not emulating the Windows API, it's replacing it.
[10:08] <Dalziel_86> Subbing for it.
[10:08] <MajorApus> stefg: what do you mean
[10:10] <jacquesmerde> whats the "ubuntu" way to send files from my computer to my phone once i've paired them with bluetooth hcid?
[10:10] <kblin> actually wine is pretty mych of an amylator :)
[10:10] <stefg> MajorApus: lines 4-6 mean nothing... no devices stated. and it would be useful to migrate the whole fstab to UUID-based mounting. YOu never know when the ubuntu devs decide to play with libata again and you devices get different names
[10:11] <blazemonger> did anyone ever fix the probs with the molecule screensaver
[10:11] <blazemonger> !midi
[10:11] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:11] <kblin> it just doesn't have much overhead, as opposed to emulating a machine like a full virtual machine like qemu
[10:11] <blazemonger> !sequencer
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sequencer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <glick> hello
[10:11] <blazemonger> !music production
[10:12] <glick> excuse me, which version of ubuntu should i download for a core duo?
[10:12] <glick> the 64 bit version?
[10:12] <Aaronfromchina> hi, everyone. I've got problem of Chinese fonts support in Kile...........
[10:12] <kblin> glick: that depends on what you want to use it for
[10:12] <glick> kblin, desktop stuff,
[10:12] <kblin> glick: if you need to run a lot of 32bit apps, a 64bit distro is just a pain
[10:13] <glick> kblin, just regular desktopie stuff
[10:13] <glick> the core duo is 64 bits right?
[10:13] <Hugo> glick yes
[10:13] <kblin> for that, I'll need to look up if the core duo is a 64bit processor... :)
[10:13] <Hugo> it is
[10:13] <kblin> ah, ok
[10:13] <vbanait> HI I INSTALLED LYX. But my previous files created using lyx are opened by gedit. There is nothing like @open with
[10:14] <stefg> MajorApus: see the !fstab factoid on how to write a proper fstab
[10:14] <stefg> !fstab
[10:14] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:14] <glick> but i should use the 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[10:14] <zenrox> glick: yes
[10:15] <wehttamb_> anyone know how big the upgrade from edgy to feisty is, in megabytes?
[10:15] <MajorApus> stefg: Im just using the mount tool
[10:15] <MajorApus> stefg: not writing it myself
[10:15] <glick> but isnt 64 bits twice as cool as 32 bits?
[10:15] <iioran> 770 I think
[10:15] <kblin> glick: no, not really
[10:15] <zenrox> glick: yes but any apps you want to use arnt in 64bit yet
[10:15] <glick> hmm ok
[10:15] <kblin> glick: you get a lot of hassle in return
[10:15] <bloodMuffin> uh oh i need some help...
[10:16] <glick> i see
[10:16] <glick> so whats the 64 bit version good for?
[10:16] <zenrox> servers
[10:16] <stefg> MajorApus: can you paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' , too. plz. I don't know what happened, but i wouldn't use a fstab which looks like that
[10:16] <kblin> glick: do you have more that 8 gig of RAM?
[10:16] <nraic> Is any having problems downloading torrents at decent speeds in linux?
[10:16] <bloodMuffin> grub returns error 17
[10:16] <vbanait> where to modify files association
[10:16] <glick> no kblin i wish
[10:17] <stefg> !grub | bloodMuffin
[10:17] <ubotu> bloodMuffin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <kblin> glick: well, if you had, you'd want a 64bit distro
[10:17] <zaggynl> What's with the repositories? I can update just fine, but there isn't a single upgrade to be done
[10:17] <glick> i have a feeling that vista purposefully makes it so firefox doesnt work as well as it should
[10:17] <nraic> I am find torrent downloading in linux very very slow, any ideas why?
[10:17] <bloodMuffin> actually can someone help me i am unable to boot my drive ( currently running off live cd)
[10:17] <klasrudian> eeeh and why should he have 8GiB of ram to use 64-bits??
[10:18] <bloodMuffin> i copied my ubuntu partition to a new ext3 partition and deleted the old one
[10:18] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: what happened?
[10:18] <bloodMuffin> now grub gives me error 17
[10:18] <Parmenion> and?
[10:18] <Parmenion> ).0
[10:18] <glick> does feisty support reiser?
[10:18] <glick> i mean can i choose reiser on install?
[10:18] <zenrox> glick: yes
[10:18] <glick> i dont know why people dont like reiserfs its a kickass filesystem
[10:19] <Parmenion> bloodMuffin: you need to edit the grub.conf or something like that
[10:19] <kblin> klasrudian: you don't have to... but if you have that much ram, you want to be able to address it without any nasty tricks that slow you down
[10:19] <klasrudian> bloodMuffin try and bot and press "e" in the brub meny and change the disk til you find the right one...
[10:19] <stefg> bloodMuffin: grub is still looking for it's config files on the old partition.... you have to update grub to tell it where it finds the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:19] <kblin> glick: unless it breaks
[10:19] <kblin> glick: which happens...
[10:19] <glick> hmm how much space should i five to ubuntu
[10:19] <ep|k> hi all..
[10:19] <kblin> and it's not really developed anymore, I think
[10:19] <glick> kblin, ive run reiser for a long ass time and its never broken on me
[10:19] <ep|k> i want to know how to use gtk theme..
[10:19] <glick> what about reiserfs4
[10:19] <ep|k> i'm newbie here
[10:20] <glick> i mean i know the developer killed his wife and all and is in jail but other people are developing it
[10:20] <kblin> glick: yeah, but that's been out for how long?
[10:20] <kblin> and not really established?
[10:20] <bloodMuffin> i see...so if i press e at the grub menu i can tell it where the new grub.conf is?
[10:20] <blazemonger> i like the christian ubuntu edition
[10:20] <MajorApus> stefg: that fstab was made using the system tool! its not like I messed with it
[10:20] <glick> well if more people started using it the more mature it would become
[10:20] <klasrudian> okay but it's only adnatige isn't hte support of adressing memory
[10:20] <kblin> to be honest, I've tried a lot of journalling file systems... and in the end I went back to ext3
[10:20] <negativecreep> hi folks.
[10:20] <klasrudian> advantige
[10:20] <vbanait> The fonts do not look as good as on windows
[10:20] <zeroday> ep|k: go to System>Preferences>Themes and drag it in
[10:20] <glick> yay i can finally run beryl
[10:21] <blazemonger> thing is the prob with Bibles is they're copyright..i dont get that
[10:21] <glick> ubuntu should fly on core duo with 2 gigs ram
[10:21] <kblin> glick: yay... I can't... ATI card... :/
[10:21] <ep|k> zeroday: i'm try
[10:21] <negativecreep> i am running edgy and upgrading to feisty..during upgrade, dmsetup fails saying udev is installed...cant go back either.
[10:21] <bloodMuffin> stefg: how would i go about doing that
[10:21] <glick> heh bummer kblin
[10:21] <zeroday> vbanait: did you install ms core fonts
[10:21] <stefg> MajorApus: i believe that.... it seems somethig did not go the way it should, so we'll add a little manual love :-)
[10:21] <glick> i have the crappiest nvidia card 7 series
[10:21] <vbanait> no
[10:21] <klasrudian> beryl is nice... jsut got it to work on my 64-bit installation :D
[10:21] <zeroday> ep|k: what error do you getr
[10:21] <glick> the 7300LE
[10:21] <kjalil> where can I go to search whether a particular package exists in the fiesty repository without installing fiesty? is there a 'search packages' somewhere?
[10:21] <blazemonger> glick: could be worse
[10:21] <jdavis_> hello, anyone know why starting beryl just turns the screen white?
[10:21] <kblin> glick: I'm running a notebook
[10:21] <blazemonger> i have a rage 128
[10:22] <stefg> bloodMuffin: please red the grub howto
[10:22] <blazemonger> and beryl wont run at all
[10:22] <blazemonger> or will it/
[10:22] <kblin> blazemonger: that indeed is worse...
[10:22] <glick> eventually ill upgrade, its pcie x 16 at least
[10:22] <stefg> !grub | bloodMuffin
[10:22] <ubotu> bloodMuffin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:22] <glick> blazemonger, eh, its just fancy eye candy
[10:22] <MajorApus> stefg: How?
[10:22] <glick> doesnt add much
[10:22] <bloodMuffin> stefg: thanks
[10:22] <zeroday> vbanait: then in syanptic search for it and install (microsoft
[10:22] <glick> i just want to use it to impress the ladies
[10:22] <blazemonger> glick: yah
[10:22] <zeroday> *microsoft core fonts
[10:22] <ep|k> zeroday: thanks
[10:22] <vbanait> ok
[10:22] <kblin> glick: he, I have a mac for that :)
[10:22] <vbanait> thanks
[10:22] <glick> hey baby, wanna come upstairs and check out my kick-ass linux desktop?
[10:22] <zeroday> np
[10:23] <blazemonger> i could care less about eye candy unless im on mushrooms lol
[10:23] <stefg> MajorApus: give me your 'sudo fdisk -l' output to pastebin, then i can see how fstab should look
[10:23] <glick> works EVERY time
[10:23] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[10:23] <kblin> glick: higher WAF for the hardware, too
[10:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:23] <glick> kblin, whats WAF?
[10:23] <kblin> women acceptance factor
[10:23] <kblin> anyhow..
[10:23] <andy_> anyone knows how I can read a .msg (outlook message file) in linux?
[10:23] <crabgrass> !format
[10:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:24] <glick> heh yeah but most women equate guys using macs as metrosexuals
[10:24] <crabgrass> as do most men i know
[10:24] <kblin> what I came here to ask for was... is there a list of firmwares for wireless cards in feisty?
[10:24] <glick> heh crabgrass concurrs
[10:24] <stefg> glick, crabgrass : take that to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[10:24] <MajorApus> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17366/
[10:25] <crabgrass> anywho, how do i format a drive from term?
[10:25] <glick> crabgrass, mkfs
[10:25] <blazemonger> if the Bible is copyrighted, wouldn't that make  it against the purpose of Christianity?
[10:25] <glick> mkreiserfs
[10:25] <glick> or mkext3fs
[10:25] <kleftisx> hello how can i remove compiz 0.5 packages??
[10:25] <crabgrass> ewww reiser
[10:25] <kblin> crabgrass: man mkfs
[10:25] <zaggynl> isnt' the reiser dev in prison?
[10:25] <glick> crabgrass, reiser rocks man, its hella fast
[10:25] <glick> zaggynl, yeah he killed his wife
[10:26] <crabgrass> kblin: durp, forgot about man
[10:26] <negativecreep> cany anyone help me with the udev/dmsetup problem?
[10:26] <crabgrass> glick: fast in what respects? would it be better for gaming/large files than ext3?
[10:26] <stefg> MajorApus: ok...  so you have win on your first hd, and linux on the second?
[10:26] <kblin> crabgrass: as far as I'm aware reiser is fast for small files
[10:26] <glick> crabgrass, reiserfs is better for a lot of smaller to medium size files
[10:26] <MajorApus> the mount tool is POS if you make a change to more than one drive it will do all the changes to the first drive, and never the second one, no matter how you click on it
[10:27] <crabgrass> kblin: how small?
[10:27] <crabgrass> glick: or, how medium?
[10:27] <glick> crabgrass, to 3 megs or so
[10:27] <crabgrass> glick: oh, so mp3's?
[10:27] <glick> 5 megs
[10:27] <kblin> crabgrass: I think most of the examples I've seen was to use reiser for maildirs or news server
[10:27] <MajorApus> yeah winzp and data1 are on hd1 and are ntfs, root data2 and swap are on hd2 root and data2 are ext3, datat3 is on its own fat32
[10:27] <crabgrass> i meant ogg's
[10:27] <glick> mp3s, media, programs, etc, etc,
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df /boot
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[10:27] <bloodMuffin> -                       777980     24656    753324   4% /
[10:27] <jerkworthy> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde351_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:28] <glick> ext3 out performs it on huge files obviously 100+megs
[10:28] <bloodMuffin> what does this mean
[10:28] <jerkworthy> what does that even mean?!
[10:28] <TuTuFF> from a vanilkla install, with an XP partition, then Ubuntu, then swap, will grub read the NTFS partition correctly and make entries in the MBR to permit dualboot without manual tinkering?
[10:28] <kblin> bloodMuffin: you can use df -h /boot to make that readable :)
[10:28] <crabgrass> glick: familiar with WoW/HL2?
[10:28] <glick> crabgrass, well ive heard of em
[10:28] <stefg> MajorApus: ok, so i'd need the output of 'blkid' ,too in pastebin
[10:28] <glick> if seen others play them
[10:28] <glick> why
[10:28] <crabgrass> glick: 'cause they access one large file for texture/models... would it be better to go with ext3 then?
[10:28] <blazemonger> anyone use ubuntu-ce?
[10:28] <glick> i just do civ2 and company of heros
[10:28] <negativecreep> http://www.pastebin.ca/455569 <-- can anyone have a look at it..upgrading from edgy to feisty.
[10:28] <michup> ive question about application, is there app which ables do movies similar or better to aftereffects?
[10:28] <vbanait> which ubuntu version is best
[10:29] <glick> crabgrass, how big a file?
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ df /boot
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> -                       777980     24656    753324   4% /
[10:29] <bloodMuffin> shouldnt there be some dev/hdsomething something instead of - under filesystem....
[10:29] <crabgrass> glick: around a gig each
[10:29] <glick> crabgrass, ex3
[10:29] <crabgrass> glick: alright...
[10:30] <kblin> bloodMuffin: in theory
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: also, i was planning on putting my / on a seperate partition from /home/... would there be any risks/benefits in using reiser for / and ext3 for /home/?
[10:30] <jerkworthy> *weeps*
[10:30] <glick> i dont really have alot of gig files lying around and for those that i do, well i dont really care much if my p0rn movies load in 3 seconds vs 2 seconds
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: lol
[10:30] <MajorApus> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17367/
[10:30] <glick> crabgrass, nah you can do that
[10:30] <glick> split file systems
[10:30] <crabgrass> glick: awesome
[10:30] <glick> alot of sys admins do that to get max performance off of servers
[10:31] <stefg> MajorApus: k, hold on a sec
[10:31] <glick> ext3 for larger files, reiser for smaller files
[10:31] <crabgrass> sounds like a good idea, too
[10:31] <crabgrass> they play well together?
[10:31] <glick> crabgrass, yeah their all the same to linux, linux uses a virtual filesystem interface, which makes them all transparent to each other
[10:32] <dobblego> are there many issues upgrading 6.10 to 7.04?
[10:32] <crabgrass> mkext3fs: command not found
[10:32] <glick> crabgrass, mkfs
[10:32] <crabgrass> glick: gotcha
[10:33] <glick> man i hope installing ubuntu from vista isnt gonna screwup my vista
[10:33] <magnetron> seems like things are starting too calm down since the 1500+ peak during the Feisty release
[10:33] <stefg> MajorApus: hmm... funny. your win partitions don't seem to have a UUID... but doesnt matter too much. Do you need the win partitons mounted permantly, or is it enough if they are mouted on demand?
[10:33] <puk> ques, how do i figure out what package holds certain files (before having it installed)? Got vmware server installed, and it runs fine (?!?!) but it won't install mui cuz some file it depends on for output misses a lot of libraries. so I need to hunt down the packages that contain those libraries and there are quite a few
[10:33] <TECH_1> I hope it rips vista a new one.
[10:34] <crabgrass> glick: i have no experiance with vista, but i know 2000 craps its pants when it sees any fs' it doesn't recognize, and will try to format them
[10:34] <crabgrass> i know from personal experiance
[10:34] <MajorApus> data1 is 250gb of storage
[10:34] <magnetron> glick: use the live cd to install ubuntu, vista will hardly notice ubuntu is installed. it will notice that it has a smaller partition than before, though
[10:35] <MajorApus> stefg: i had it working earlier
[10:35] <TECH_1> just go buy another drive and be over with it...way worth it to.
[10:35] <jenda> Why does VLC open a new, blank (black) window titled VLC X11 output whenever I play a video?
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: sudo apt-get build-dep vmware
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: not sure, but that might do it.
[10:35] <jenda> 2 of them, actually - one is very tiny.
[10:35] <MajorApus> stefg: i could make the data1 ext3
[10:35] <puk> crabgrass: vmware isn't a package in ubuntu so i doubt that
[10:35] <glick> magnetron, will that cause it to crap its pants?
[10:35] <crabgrass> puk: bugger
[10:36] <puk> there must be a way to search for files somewhere..
[10:36] <blazemonger> vista=work of satan
[10:36] <crabgrass> vista = kicked out of the nest earlier than vanguard
[10:36] <TECH_1> lol
[10:36] <stefg> MajorApus: relax... we are just going to beautify this ugly fstab. So is it ok if you only mount the win-partitions n demand, since your data are on a separate partiton anyway?
[10:36] <glick> i wouldnt need vista if i could play my games flawlessly in linux :( but untill i cant im bound
[10:37] <MajorApus> stefg: for now
[10:37] <glick> ^can
[10:37] <crabgrass> glick: what games?
[10:37] <glick> crabgrass, civ4, company of heroes, and battlefield
[10:37] <kblin> glick: and you need vista for those games?
[10:37] <puk> xp uses way less memory...
[10:37] <jenda> glick: You can avoid playing games - it has worked great for me so far ;)
[10:37] <magnetron> glick, i don't know that much about vista's pants, but my point is that the installation is outside of vista
[10:37] <glick> kblin, no XP would do fine but vista is what came with my computer
[10:37] <blazemonger> a friend of mine has a pair of pants that are from space
[10:37] <|ringo|> Hey, does anyone know the apt-get command to install kernel sources?
[10:37] <vbanait> i am planning to try linux. which will be best
[10:37] <crabgrass> glick: 1942 or the new battlefield?
[10:38] <glick> apt-get install kernel-source
[10:38] <magnetron> glick: vista has bad game support
[10:38] <crabgrass> glick: 'cause i'm pretty sure bf1942 works with wine
[10:38] <glick> magnetron, seems ok so far
[10:38] <puk> magnetron: no games have bad vista support :)
[10:38] <kblin> crabgrass: sort of..
[10:38] <blazemonger> DRM=satanic
[10:38] <stefg> MajorApus: ok, just give me aminute
[10:38] <zack> with Ubuntu 7.04 alternate install, does it include a package of the new KDE so I don't have to download it again after my update?
[10:39] <puk> crabgrass: found something. apt-file :)
[10:39] <zack> i have the disk, just not looking forward to having to download a TON of stuff
[10:39] <glick> hmm gotta decide if i want ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:39] <crabgrass> puk: ooo
[10:39] <webmind> good day
[10:39] <crabgrass> glick: i like gnome, but don't overlook xfce
[10:39] <puk> glick: then decide whether you want gnome or kde...
[10:39] <webmind> I've upgraded to feisty
[10:39] <crabgrass> glick: just tried it today, and i like it
[10:39] <magnetron> glick, puk: almost ALL games has LESS performance in the "improved" vista compared to xp=> bad game platform
[10:39] <webmind> but now I lost all my evolution accounts
[10:40] <crabgrass> magnetron: that's becuase vista gorges itself on your ram
[10:40] <glick> magnetron, yeah maybe so, give if a service pack or two
[10:40] <webmind> they are still stored in .evolution
[10:40] <webmind> but new accounts are in .gconf2
[10:40] <webmind> can anyone tell me how to convert these ?
[10:40] <sjkwizard> hi...i've a problem...i can't get the lock of /var/lib/apt/lists/lock...how do i fix this problem?
[10:40] <puk> magnetron: ... it consumes more memory, more cpu, has mainly crappy drivers and you actually expect it to perform be tter?
[10:40] <zack> puk: i'm with you on that one
[10:40] <magnetron> glick: I doubt that. the service packs seldom removes things.
[10:40] <crabgrass> and it's 64bit... why
[10:41] <magnetron> puk: no, that's my point too
[10:41] <TECH_1> yea...bill got sick of being blue screened he desined the (RGP) program.
[10:41] <zack> any point to getting Ubuntu 64 bit yet? i tried once before and it was shocking, not even proper codec or flash support
[10:41] <TheInfinity> hmm ... one question ... my vpnc client has lots of problems since 7.04 ... it disconnects after secounds ... dows anybody know why?
[10:41] <dobblego> can I upgrade using the upgrade manager without downloading 850MB if I have the ISO?
[10:41] <crabgrass> zack: unless you have an app built for a 64bit platform, no
[10:42] <puk> zack: that's because the windows codecs are still only available in 32b. flash hasn't gotten to 64b yet either it's appearantly quite hard for them to rewrite their engine (can't just recompile it)
[10:42] <bloodMuffin> grr still not working
[10:42] <crabgrass> zack: like you said, it's a real pain getting flash, etc working.
[10:42] <magnetron> zack: actually it's Adobe that don't have 64 support
[10:42] <puk> zack: other than that should be fine
[10:42] <zack> dobblego: you should be able to put the cd info into /etc/apt/sources.list (or similar, gotta love TAB)
[10:43] <blazemonger> only prob i have with feisty  is the proprietary drivers
[10:43] <zack> puk, et. al.: right
[10:43] <dobblego> zack, ok thanks
[10:43] <crabgrass> can't wait for the day when svg replaces flash
[10:43] <zack> dobblego: check out ubuntuguide.org
[10:43] <webmind> btw, shouldn't this be a bug ?
[10:43] <magnetron> blazemonger, yes, if they were FOSS the community would be allowed to fix them
[10:44] <Madpilot> dobblego, you need to get the alternate installer ISO, then that'll get a bunch of the packages
[10:44] <magnetron> !vista
[10:44] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[10:44] <Madpilot> dobblego, just burn it, then stick it into your CD drive while Ubuntu is running - it'll be recognized and go from there.
[10:44] <crabgrass> lol evil overlords
[10:44] <dobblego> Madpilot, ok thanks
[10:44] <zack> Madpilot: i have an ubuntu alternate... would that still work for upgrading?
[10:45] <Madpilot> zack, yes - just burn it & drop it in your CD drive
[10:46] <andy_> anyone knows a plugin for gedit which converts all special chars in a document into it's correct html code? For example  into &ouml;
[10:46] <crabgrass> andy_: find and replace? =/
[10:46] <andy_> crabgrass, there are also  and  etc.
[10:47] <andy_> and I don't wanna search the whole document for each special char that could appear ;)
[10:47] <richb> Hello al.l
[10:47] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:47] <Madpilot> andy_, some of the HTML editors might have a wizard for this - not sure. Try bluefish or screem for starters
[10:47] <richb> *all. too
[10:47] <crabgrass> andy_: i meant ctrl+h, but you're right... that would take a while
[10:47] <andy_> Madpilot, ok, gonna look into that.
[10:48] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <vbanait> nybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <shric> if you use an appropriate charset encoding, you shouldn't need to convert things like that
[10:48] <vbanait> anybody knows any database program to manage medical clinics
[10:48] <richb> vbanait: What sort of database do you need?
[10:48] <MajorApus> stefg: ?
[10:48] <richb> vbanait: And don't spam.
[10:48] <crabgrass> shric: doesn't always display correctly on the other end
[10:49] <stefg> MajorApus: still cleaning the mess :-)
[10:49] <ivx> hey i'm on feisty and the xchat icon in the notification area is cool but how can i get it to minimize to it?
[10:49] <|what_if|> can java 5 and 6 be installed at the same time ? synaptics lets me do it ...
[10:49] <vbanait> something that can keep my patients data and able to export the required reports
[10:49] <magnetron> vbanait: there is a database program included in openoffice. there is also other famous databases, like postgresql and mysql
[10:49] <crabgrass> what_if: AFAIK they're installed into seperate directories, so yes, you can.
[10:49] <richb> SQL is a requirement then?
[10:50] <vbanait> i require something readymade
[10:50] <richb> Mmm?
[10:50] <what_if> crabgrass: I see, but how do I reference one version or another since they are both called "java"
[10:50] <magnetron> vbanait: try the database in openoffice, it is included on the ubuntu desktop cd
[10:50] <crabgrass> what_if: if you can point the script/whatever to a directory directly, that would work
[10:51] <haru> how do i disable my lower panel bar?
[10:51] <crabgrass> what_if: i.e. '/path/to/java' rather than 'java'
[10:51] <what_if> crabgrass: I see, I did make the mistake of uninstalling java6 and installing java5... that killed it quick
[10:51] <vbanait> i have not worked with any dabase programs before. I needd a ready to use out of box solution
[10:51] <crabgrass> haru: rightclick it and 'delete this panel'
[10:52] <kblin> how do I get kubuntu to give me the kernel boot messages while booting?
[10:52] <Aucti> hello
[10:52] <crabgrass> haru: assuming you're using gnome
[10:52] <GuHHH> hello
[10:52] <violator_> help! the shortcut on my desktop cannot be deleted
[10:52] <crabgrass> Aucti: hi.
[10:52] <what_if> kblin: remove the line "quiet" from the grub boot options
[10:52] <GuHHH> is there any problem i use a package from edgy on festy?
[10:52] <stefg> MajorApus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17368/
[10:52] <Aucti> how are you ?
[10:52] <hoppy> Hi,bcm4318
[10:52] <haru> crabgrass, ok
[10:52] <magnetron> vbanait: openoffice.org is designed to be easy to use, yet powerful. try it
[10:52] <kblin> what_if: I can't do that while booting?
[10:52] <crabgrass> violator_: use the rm command in term
[10:52] <what_if> kblin: dunno, never tried
[10:52] <kblin> what_if: so.. like.. after I loaded the kernel?
[10:52] <TECH_1> Who knows anything about (fiaif)?
[10:53] <GuHHH> can someone give-me the libapache-mod-php5 package?
[10:53] <vbanait> i will. but is there any program for electronic medical records
[10:53] <Aucti> sorry,What,s it's
[10:53] <stefg> MajorApus: so 'sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak' and replace the fstab with the one from pastebin
[10:53] <what_if> kblin: don't know if you can disable the splash while booting... never tried
[10:53] <Aucti> sorry,What,s this?
[10:53] <crabgrass> GuHHH: apt is friendly with things like that
[10:53] <kblin> what_if: well, thanks anyway :)
[10:53] <magnetron> violator_, what sort of shortcut is it?
[10:53] <hoppy> hi, anyone know if feisty now supports broadcom bcm4138 or am I best sticking with edgy?
[10:53] <GuHHH> crabgrass: sadly itsnt! i cant find this package anymore.
[10:54] <MoxJe2> what is the command to stop a ssh connection? (when connected to the other computer)
[10:54] <crabgrass> GuHHH: hmm... well, i don't have it here, try google?
[10:54] <GuHHH> crabgrass: take a try :/
[10:54] <LBM_> Hello, could anyone help me with installing nVidia drivers? I`ve tried installing from repositories, and the nvidia website, but the X just won`t
[10:54] <stefg> MajorApus: take care that the line wrap in pastebin does not mess things
[10:54] <LBM_> start with nvidia as driver
[10:54] <GuHHH> already tried. ;)
[10:54] <richb> LBM_: Won't start?
[10:54] <crabgrass> LBM_: one sec
[10:54] <MajorApus> why is the ntfs read only?
[10:54] <MoxJe2> oh ok ctrl+d
[10:54] <bloodMuffin> !grub
[10:54] <violator_> it's an mp4 file. i've tried moving it to trash but it always stays
[10:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:54] <crabgrass> LBM_: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:54] <GuHHH> LBM_: use vesa instead, do u really need nvidia driver?
[10:54] <MajorApus> stefg: thanks for your time, let me try it out
[10:55] <crabgrass> LBM_: give that a shot
[10:55] <stefg> Major check for typos... i think i found one on sdc1
[10:55] <violator_> the source file is on an ntfs drive
[10:55] <crabgrass> mkfs question: what's the difference between '-t fstype' and 'filesys'?
[10:55] <bluesman>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:56] <MajorApus> okay so they are all mounted, but I have no access on winxp, readonly on data1 (fine for now) rw on data2 and only r on data3
[10:56] <magnetron> vbanait; there is an open medical records software in development called OpenMRS, see http://www.openmrs.org/
[10:56] <LBM_> crabgrass, thanks. I`ve tried Envy, it does install, but anyway starts with black screen, so I had to restore xorg.conf
[10:56] <MajorApus> data 3 needs to be rw
[10:56] <tarzeau> how does ubuntu feisty make that usb sticks are mounted to /media/disk ? i can't find anything in /etc/fstab
[10:56] <GuHHH> MajorApus: you are not root there.
[10:56] <crabgrass> LBM_: same thing happens here, use nano to change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv'
[10:57] <LBM_> GuHHH, well I do hope to get the maximum out of my video card...
[10:57] <crabgrass> LBM_: i have no idea why that happens, and it happens every time i reboot, but that fix seems to work
[10:57] <richb> LBM_: Could you post the Xorg.log somewhere?
[10:57] <GuHHH> LBM_: sorry but what for?
[10:57] <crabgrass> richb: you have a fix for this? i'm interested
[10:57] <stefg> MajorApus: wait, thers something missing in the first line
[10:58] <MajorApus> brb
[10:58] <GuHHH> tarzeau: mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/usb
[10:58] <LBM_> crabgrass, that is not a workaround as far as I understand, it`s just using other driver
[10:58] <crabgrass> LBM_: durp
[10:58] <haru> how do i get svn to work via proxy
[10:58] <haru> subversion that is
[10:58] <richb> crabgrass: I don't know what the problem is yet, without a log file it is hard to diagnose.
[10:58] <crabgrass> LBM_: well, in that case, i have no idea
[10:58] <GuHHH> LBM_: are ur monitors refresh rate correct?
[10:58] <stefg> MajorApus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17369/
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: no it must be automatic
[10:59] <crabgrass> richb: well, i'd hand over my logfile, but... long story short, i don't have that install anymore
[10:59] <orbin> hoppy: are you using ndiswrapper now?
[10:59] <Meltir> hi ppl. im trying to compile php under feisty. configure tells me 'checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc   ) works... no', in fact it says 'checking for c++... no' :| i obvoiusly checked and i have gcc and libtool.... anyone run into something like this ?
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: no way.
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: it's multiuser systems, without users having mount/umount right
[10:59] <tarzeau> GuHHH: i hate linux for this
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: no way. u are not on windows...
[10:59] <richb> Melti: g++
[10:59] <GuHHH> tarzeau: its simple, do as i told
[11:00] <MajorApus> how do I get rw on the data3
[11:00] <tarzeau> GuHHH: it's not possible, the users here don't have root permission
[11:00] <GuHHH> tarzeau: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/xxx /mnt/usb
[11:00] <crabgrass> one more mkfs question: what goes where for 'fs-options'?
[11:00] <LBM_> GuHHH, Beryl, 3D and 2D performance-improvements.. Well, not sure about them really, but vesa won`t even let me use 1024*768
[11:00] <MajorApus> i have to sleep
[11:00] <MajorApus> thanks
[11:01] <magnetron> tarzeau: you can give normal users rights to automount external drives, see system > adminsitration > useres
[11:01] <GuHHH> LBM_: okay, so its better to install nvidia drivers really :)
[11:01] <crabgrass> GuHHH: i don't see why not
[11:02] <GuHHH> crabgrass: depends on what u use linux for :)
[11:02] <crabgrass> !fs-options
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs-options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <Meltir> richb: thanks, that worked :)
[11:02] <crabgrass> GuHHH: true, i'm not used to working with less than 2gb ram =/
[11:02] <tarzeau> magnetron: they don't have that menu, not all of them use gnome
[11:02] <orbin> what plugin are people using for video/mp3 streaming in firefox?
[11:03] <crabgrass> orbin: gstreamer?
[11:03] <GuHHH> if i could i would let my xserver run with vesa, but i had to install fglrx driver, its was a pain in the ... until i could find it :P
[11:03] <magnetron> sorry what "them"?
[11:03] <magnetron> !codecs | orbin
[11:03] <ubotu> orbin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <GuHHH> tarzeau: cant u do that with sudo mount ... ?
[11:04] <crabgrass> okay, this look good?     sudo mkfs -v -c -t ext3 /dev/sda
[11:04] <tsubasaTaff> hello !
[11:04] <GuHHH> hi!
[11:04] <tsubasaTaff> I encounter a problem with breezy security
[11:05] <tsubasaTaff> when i try to apt-get update it fail with that
[11:05] <magnetron> !openweek
[11:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek For logs please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts and http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/irclogs/openweek/
[11:05] <tsubasaTaff> http://rafb.net/p/MFIpB473.html
[11:05] <crabgrass> hmm... how do i count blocks on a disk?
[11:05] <magnetron> the Ubuntu OpenWeek is this week!
[11:06] <johns^> crabgrass: df   ?
[11:06] <orbin> crabgrass, magnetron: well i've installed totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin + w32codecs but files won't load for me.
[11:06] <johns^> crabgrass: or df -h
[11:06] <sharingos> hi
[11:06] <sharingos> I have created 3 version of this game  a pipe version, a thread one and this last that works with Shared memory and semaphores. in the first 2 version no problem with input, I have used getch and the function timeout (ncurses) so to make non blocking input, in this last case there is a problem getch doesn't works well and I must use getchar to make it non blocking. I have used a linux version of kbhit but there is a problem with buffering: if I press a
[11:06] <sharingos> key, the buffer is effectively written only if I press another key... any solution??
[11:06] <crabgrass> johns^: awesome, thanks
[11:06] <magnetron> orbin, what format is the files in?
[11:06] <vbanait> the openemr implementation appear to be very difficult. is there simple emr program
[11:07] <orbin> magnetron: well the one i'm trying is an mp3.
[11:08] <crabgrass> orbin: you need gstreamer ugly, i think
[11:08] <crabgrass> or ffmpeg
[11:08] <magnetron> vbanait: if you want a simple yet powerful solution, try the openoffice.org database software. no harm in testing it.
[11:08] <LBM_> richb, http://www.mediafire.com/?7mdwy0uheyw - My Xorg.log
[11:09] <[swb] > Feisty Fawn :D
[11:09] <[swb] > it is my opinion that ubuntu now runs better, supports more hardware, and is easier to use than the latest windows
[11:09] <[swb] > also its free
[11:09] <magnetron> !enter
[11:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:09] <crabgrass> [swb] : emphasis on runs better
[11:10] <[swb] > crabgrass, I just bought a new computer, admittedly its pretty powerful but Feisty with all beryl etc runs like a dream
[11:10] <kahrytan> swb: Not when it comes to wireless.
[11:10] <adonis> hey guys.. anyone know about the ndinswrapper problem with feisty fawn?
[11:10] <Parmenion> lol, always the worst eh
[11:11] <Parmenion> adonis, ndiswrapper problem ?
[11:11] <anandham> Hello All I have a problem copying mp3 files from a backup DVD
[11:11] <magnetron> kahrytan: the ndiswrapper is a real hack, don't blaim ubuntu for that
[11:11] <[swb] > kahrytan, no? last time I tried to use wireless it was a pain in the bum actually, but its funny that in general, Feisty works with more hardware than Vista
[11:11] <crabgrass> [swb] : any experiance in getting beryl not to kill performance when used with 3d-accelerated apps?
[11:11] <orbin> adonis: anyone in particular?
[11:11] <adonis> no.. don't get me wrong i love ubuntu
[11:11] <kahrytan> [swb]  Ndiswrapper does not count.  It's a cheat.
[11:11] <Seine> question: is it possible to debug "Enable Desktop Effects"? It has no effect for me. It tries to enable the effects for about 1 min, then reverts.
[11:11] <crabgrass> anandham: what error are you getting?
[11:11] <[swb] > crabgrass, what graphics card do you have?
[11:11] <adonis> i have a friend thats running a linksys wireless card in his laptop and he keeps getting that error
[11:12] <crabgrass> [swb] : geforce 7900gtx
[11:12] <anandham> Input I/O error while I try copying it
[11:12] <Emyr> morning all
[11:12] <JediMaster> hi all
[11:12] <crabgrass> anandham: sounds like a bad disc
[11:12] <adonis> It ask to install the ndiswrapper...
[11:12] <adonis> ahh..
[11:12] <[swb] > and I have not yet tested with running 3d accelerated stuff in beryl
[11:12] <adonis> hmm..
[11:12] <anandham> I can copy other data..
[11:12] <JediMaster> I'm trying to upgrade from the previous debian stable up to fiesty and having a headache with libc6
[11:12] <[swb] > I guess you could always turn off the composite extension and restart X but thats lame
[11:12] <anandham> like documents
[11:12] <kahrytan> [swb]  I use Wired Router anyways. I don't trust Wireless. To easy for hackers to break in.
[11:12] <Parmenion> i would manually install ndiswrapper to workaround first
[11:12] <[swb] > kahrytan, too right
[11:12] <vadvad> hi, how do i install a *.run file and *.rpm file?
[11:13] <[swb] > also the airwaves are getting crowded these days, as everyone and his dog now has a wireless AP
[11:13] <Parmenion> i prefer wireless for my laptop... all the rest of the connections are wireless
[11:13] <crabgrass> [swb] : admittedly, i haven't tried it in about two months, but framerate in WoW/HL2 dropped from ~150 with metacity to ~2 with beryl
[11:13] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:13] <[swb] > vadvad, to install a .rpm, run alien on it to make it a deb
[11:13] <anandham> its the media files which are not getting copied from the DVD
[11:13] <adonis> sweet i will tell my friend about that thx parmenion
[11:13] <JediMaster> libc6 complained that it could not upgrade with a 2.4.x kernel, even though the dist-upgrade was going to install one, and every time I try and run any install/upgrade (such as apt-get -f install) I get: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[11:13] <crabgrass> [swb] : that just means more free internet for me =D
[11:13] <[swb] > a run is normally just a binary, so chmod a+x it then do ./filename.run
[11:13] <vbanait> 2. is there any tool for batch conversion of lyx to pdf
[11:13] <magnetron> JediMaster: you can't upgrade from debian stable to ubuntu feisty. do a fresh install
[11:13] <haru> how do i find which version of gtk do i have
[11:13] <Parmenion> [swb] : true, but it doesnt matter so much now does it? its easier and more to configure
[11:13] <vadvad> run alien?
[11:14] <[swb] > crabgrass, do you reembmer if when you were doing that, when you were in beryl and did glxinfo, did it say DRI was on?
[11:14] <magnetron> haru, search for gtk in synaptic
[11:14] <JediMaster> magnetron: I beg to differ, I've done it on 3 other servers
[11:14] <[swb] > cause it enver used to for me when I was running beryl on my old system (ATI something or other) but on the new geforce it does
[11:14] <crabgrass> [swb] : i'm fairly sure it was on, yes
[11:14] <crabgrass> [swb] : or at least enabled.
[11:14] <Parmenion> lol crabgrass, i personally havent configured wireless as i just installed feisty, but i use mac filtering :P
[11:14] <kahrytan> [swb]   WPA2 is good though. I like the AES. but I just don't like the idea of someone breaking in through it. If there was fool proof way to defend against MAC spoofing  then it be safer.
[11:14] <Parmenion> so not so much of free wireless for you :P
[11:14] <[swb] > vadvad, apt-get install alien
[11:15] <[swb] > then do alien whatever.rpm
[11:15] <crabgrass> Parmenion: you'd be amazed at how few people even use WEP keys
[11:15] <[swb] > and it makes a .deb
[11:15] <JediMaster> magnetron: didn't have a single package/dependancy problem before either
[11:15] <[swb] > then do dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:15] <vadvad> 10x
[11:15] <anandham> crabgrass. The files other than media formata re getting copied. I can't even run from the DVD also
[11:15] <[swb] > sorry I was using enter for punctuation again :(
[11:15] <crabgrass> Parmenion: and i'm using mac filtering in my wired router, even though i doubt it's necessassry
[11:15] <tarzeau> GuHHH: our users don't have root permission. the solution is i start gnome-volume-manager whenever a user logs in into x, as the users id
[11:15] <crabgrass> anandham: hmm, not sure
[11:16] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I know that for a fact. When I visited Hawai'i, a neighbor didn't use ANY security. I used their wifi to access internet on laptop.
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <crabgrass> kahrytan: did you try getting into the router itself?
[11:16] <magnetron> JediMaster: the procedure is not supported. if it happens to work, it is more of a luck
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <[swb] > I have had no problems running 64bit ubuntu even, I expected that to be a little less smooth
[11:16] <JediMaster> magnetron: that's different =)
[11:16] <vadvad> after i click ctrl+alt+f2 how do i return to the graphic mode without restart?
[11:16] <adonis> so did anyone read the digg article about ubuntu and the dx10 hack?
[11:16] <vbanait> how can i fix association of lyx files with lyx
[11:16] <Parmenion> crabgrass: ive got 5 broadband wireless networks with decent signal right open for the picking even from my home
[11:16] <moonlite> How do i change what gcc-version is default in ubuntu? (ie sets the right symlink to /usr/bin/gcc)?
[11:16] <crabgrass> adonis: no, link please
[11:17] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I'm not a hacker.   I wonder if it still had the default password.
[11:17] <magnetron> !repeat | vbanait
[11:17] <ubotu> vbanait: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:17] <adonis> sure one sec..
[11:17] <moonlite> (plus some extra stuff i guess?)
[11:17] <crabgrass> Parmenion: scary
[11:17] <vadvad> after i push ctrl+alt+f2 how do i return to the graphic mode without restart?
[11:17] <Ng> vadvad: alt+f7
[11:17] <vadvad> 10x
[11:17] <PrMoriarty> hello
[11:17] <[swb] > vadvad, ctrl-alt-f7
[11:17] <Parmenion> crabgrass: yep ....
[11:17] <crabgrass> Parmenion: and to think... if they don't change the router's password, you can feed it a corrupt firmware update and brick it.
[11:17] <JediMaster> magnetron: a fresh install is not an option as we need as little as possible down time on this remote machine, done it locally (but via ssh only) on two nearly identical setups without any problems at all (was very suprised) and only 5-6 minutes downtime including reboot
[11:18] <crabgrass> Parmenion: such foolishness out there
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> do you know a vpn client on ubuntu
[11:18] <crabgrass> !patience
[11:18] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:18] <crabgrass> !trolls
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> ?
[11:18] <Parmenion> crabgrass:  i never thought of such an interesting attack vector XD
[11:18] <kahrytan> crabgrass: Why brick the router: just change the router settings to make only work for you. Effectively banning them from internet
[11:18] <Ng> PrMoriarty: there are plugins for network manager for both pptp and openvpn type vpns
[11:18] <[swb] > I remember using debian in 2001, and thinking one day linux on the desktop would be as awesome as ubuntu is now :)
[11:18] <crabgrass> kahrytan: not enough lulz
[11:18] <vbanait> how can i have @open with option for right click
[11:18] <PrMoriarty> i want to connect on a cisco vpn server
[11:19] <Ng> PrMoriarty: vpnc looks like it claims to be that
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> dunno if i need a special vpn client
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: and i assume they could to a hard reset on the box and get everything back
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> cool
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: well, assuming they knew they could do that
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> i seeking it so
[11:19] <kahrytan> crabgrass: True but they would learn their lesson.
[11:19] <crabgrass> and if they don't even have a password set, they probably don't
[11:19] <crabgrass> kahrytan: i hope so
[11:19] <adonis> crabgrass.. i will have to dig it up for you.. but it was about dx10 and gamming on ubuntu
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> i installed openvpn?
[11:19] <PrMoriarty> it is uselfull?
[11:19] <kahrytan> crabgrass: You could download illegal stuff on open wifi too.
[11:20] <crabgrass> adonis: how much different is dx10 from v9?
[11:20] <crabgrass> kahrytan: you sure could, you wouldn't even need tor
[11:20] <Parmenion> kahrytan: you are making me think too much ....
[11:20] <kahrytan> adonis: that article is on Slashdot?
[11:20] <madinfo> anyone can tell me why my ubuntu doesn't turn of the computer when i tell to do it ? only get black screen
[11:20] <Parmenion> crabgrass: a little too sick to be true.
[11:20] <adonis> probably not to much but i know it's a " bonus" in vista and works inconjuction w/ 8800 series graphics cards
[11:20] <adonis> not sure what the big diff is.
[11:20] <crabgrass> kahrytan: which brings me to my next question... is it possible to distribute your connection over multiple routers?
[11:21] <PrMoriarty> Ng: do you know how run vpnc?
[11:21] <det> What is the replacement for PLF?
[11:21] <Parmenion> crabgrass: why not ? a single connection, but just daisy chaining it down right ?
[11:21] <kahrytan> adonis: Slashdot has article posting on DX10 hack.
[11:21] <crabgrass> kahrytan: ex.: if two of my neighbors have open wifi, can i use each one to download half a file?
[11:21] <adonis> Thats it slashdot sry guys thx kahrytan
[11:22] <Bokeh> crabgrass: you could trunk them
[11:22] <crabgrass> kahrytan: have a link to it?
[11:22] <zaggynl> !bandwidth
[11:22] <kahrytan> crabgrass: I wouldn't know
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bandwidth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <zaggynl> !shaping
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shaping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <crabgrass> Bokeh: trunk? thought that was part of a phone system
[11:22] <zaggynl> Anyone knows good bandwidth shaping (at desktop) software? trickle doesn't do the job here
[11:22] <sikor_sxe> hello, i just updated to feisty from edgy. now i have the problem that on logon it takes several minutes for the startup
[11:22] <sikor_sxe> the gnome startup that is
[11:22] <Bokeh> trunking is basically loadbalancing multiple network connections
[11:23] <crabgrass> !trunk
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <sikor_sxe> i can start apps, but there is no wm
[11:23] <crabgrass> !trunking
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trunking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Parmenion> crabgrass: i dont think its possible simultaneously
[11:23] <Bokeh> so no, you can't do a single connection over 2 different lines, but you can do 2 connections over 2 lines, so basically loadbalancing the network load
[11:23] <Bokeh> it
[11:23] <Bokeh> it's quite complex though
[11:23] <crabgrass> Bokeh: do you need a router on your end for this, or just a nic?
[11:23] <Parmenion> not to mention, how do you specify the exact file break?
[11:23] <magnetron_> crabgrass please try out new !keywords in pm to ubotu
[11:23] <Parmenion> !keywords
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keywords - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Parmenion> whoo
[11:23] <Bokeh> you'd need 2 nics at least
[11:24] <kahrytan> adonis:http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/23/1348239
[11:24] <Bokeh> and a dedicated router is recommended.
[11:24] <crabgrass> magnetron_: didn't think of that, will do.
[11:24] <Bokeh> i did it on my work desktop a while ago to test something, but it's not really useful on a single workstation :)
[11:24] <crabgrass> Bokeh: so is this something you set up on your router, or on your machine?
[11:24] <Bokeh> and it's not worth the trouble unless you're a big bucks company that loses out on customers if their network connection is down
[11:25] <crabgrass> Bokeh: oh, so you can't use it to speed up downloads?
[11:25] <Parmenion> lol
[11:25] <adonis> Thanks Kahrytan..
[11:25] <Bokeh> nope
[11:25] <crabgrass> or at least distribute them
[11:25] <csj> hi all, when I enable desktop effect and then view GTK+ API using firefox, the title will be strange like this picture http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=471083047&size=o
[11:25] <Bokeh> you can ofcourse use it to load balance multiple connections
[11:25] <crabgrass> Bokeh: bummer... i'll still look into it, though, sounds cool.
[11:25] <Parmenion> !ping
[11:25] <kahrytan> adonis: It is the wrapper link that mentions Linux. It is truely hacked. WINE dev team be interested in it.
[11:25] <ubotu> pong
[11:25] <Bokeh> so connection 1 goes to line 1, connection 2 goes to line 2, connection 3 goes to line 1, etc. etc.
[11:26] <Bokeh> or you can use it as a backup line.... for example, you have a high-speed Gbit link at your colocation, and you have a backup DSL line going to your router
[11:26] <Bokeh> so in case your provider screws up you still have a fallback connection
[11:26] <crabgrass> hmm.
[11:26] <Bokeh> http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/bonding.html is a nice article
[11:27] <Bokeh> and http://sourceforge.net/projects/bonding/ is the sf project
[11:27] <magnetron_> Parmenion, try PM ubotu
[11:27] <Bokeh> it's a  bitch to set up though, be prepared to pull out lots of hairs :)
[11:27] <vbanait>  i need electronic medical record system for ubuntu. simple
[11:27] <crabgrass> Bokeh: thanks for the links
[11:27] <Parmenion> PM ubotu
[11:27] <Parmenion> lol
[11:27] <Parmenion> that was dumb
[11:27] <LBM_> Hm... Is there a way to uninstall Gaim without uninstalling "ubuntu-desktop"?
[11:27] <adonis> hopefully it actually is not a hoax..i only keep a windows box around for the games..
[11:28] <kalin> hi, i'm trying to run winecfg, and when i click the audio tab it closes with an error that /dev/snd/seq does not exist. anyone know what this might indicate?
[11:28] <what_if> LBM_: no
[11:28] <|ringo|> LBM_: find gaim in synaptic and uncheck the box, then hit apply
[11:28] <adonis> be nice to convert to another nix flavor
[11:28] <crabgrass> Bokeh: ah, so it's just for redundancy, not actual throughput
[11:28] <what_if> LBM_: but "ubuntu-desktop" is just a meta-package
[11:28] <Bokeh> you can use it for actual throughput as well.
[11:28] <kahrytan> Pidgin, Not GAIM
[11:28] <crabgrass> ooo.
[11:28] <Bokeh> if you trunk 2 1Gbit connections, you'll effectively have 2 x 1Gbit
[11:29] <Bokeh> depends on how you set it up though. round-robin, active backup, balance, etc.
[11:29] <magnetron_> vbanait: all i can say is that the openmrs folks are working on it. did you try openoffice database?
[11:29] <crabgrass> do they have to have the same speed or can they be asynchronous?
[11:29] <kahrytan> GAIM changed it's name to Pidgin. And it's next release will reflect it.
[11:29] <Bokeh> they can be asynchronous
[11:29] <crabgrass> kahrytan: gin? really? that's a bad name.
[11:29] <crabgrass> *pidgin
[11:29] <Bokeh> though i wouldn't do that for broadcast or balance modes
[11:29] <LBM_> Thanks, I`ll try it
[11:29] <Bokeh> only for round robin and active-backup
[11:29] <vbanait> Putting it myself on ooo database is a huge task.
[11:30] <crabgrass> ... is there any way to unbind my [insert]  key? i've never in my life used it.
[11:30] <Bokeh> pidgin? :D
[11:30] <|ringo|> anyone know if compiling truecrypt kernel module should take 30+ minutes?
[11:30] <kahrytan> crabgrass: A pidgin is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups who do not share a common language, in situations such as trade.
[11:30] <kahrytan> crabgrass: It is a fitting name.
[11:31] <crabgrass> kahrytan: oh, it's a real term.
[11:31] <crabgrass> kahrytan: +10 to credibility
[11:31] <kahrytan> crabgrass: Many people on Slashdot complained too.
[11:32] <crabgrass> kahrytan: now that i've wiki'd it, i like it.
[11:32] <crabgrass> and anomie, that's another good one
[11:32] <kahrytan> crabgrass:  The name fits. i just wish it got into Feisty.
[11:32] <sand_storm> Hi, can anyone tell me how i can open an MS access file on linux
[11:33] <kditty> !upgrade
[11:33] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:33] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, in Open Office i think.
[11:33] <sand_storm> it doesn't open them
[11:34] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, what's the file's extension?
[11:34] <sand_storm> mdb
[11:34] <kahrytan> Which is better, Gnome Office, KDE Office or Open Office?
[11:34] <crabgrass> pidgin > jabber
[11:34] <crabgrass> 'jabber' sound so disorganized >.>
[11:34] <what_if> kahrytan: openoffice
[11:34] <belfegor> what is the comand to see may own ip?
[11:34] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, have you tried opening it through the File Browser?
[11:34] <crabgrass> netstat
[11:35] <Bokeh> kahrytan: openoffice if you want compatibility with ms office and lots and lots of features
[11:35] <what_if> belfegor: ifconfig
[11:35] <sand_storm> i will try that..
[11:35] <sand_storm> i opened it from the open office
[11:35] <kahrytan> What is Gnome Office and KDE Office? What is based on?
[11:35] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:35] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, did it open it successfully?
[11:35] <Bokeh> abiworld (aka gnome office) if you just want to type and have a quick, responsive writer
[11:35] <vadvad> when i try to install alien i get 2 (EE) 1.cound not open lock file 2. unable to lock the admin directory.  help anyone?
[11:35] <sand_storm> no
[11:36] <sand_storm> opened an unreadble file
[11:36] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, are you gettting any error messages?
[11:36] <thebillywayne> oh
[11:36] <sand_storm> no
[11:36] <kahrytan> One of my favorite parts of Open Office is PDF export.
[11:36] <what_if> vadvad: is synaptic running somewhere else ?
[11:36] <else> i don't know
[11:36] <vadvad> whats synaptic?
[11:36] <_XeN_> lol
[11:36] <jijutm> hi all .. the DVD of feisty downloaded.. does not permit a network install ..
[11:36] <kahrytan> vadvad: ubuntu software install for gnome.
[11:36] <_XeN_> vadvad are you root?
[11:36] <else> vadvad, a frontend for apt
[11:36] <what_if> vadvad: the default gui package manager
[11:36] <naja_> hi
[11:37] <vadvad> yas i am root..
[11:37] <_XeN_> hm
[11:37] <Bokeh> jijutm: what's the error message?
[11:37] <kahrytan> vadvad: Log out of Root now.
[11:37] <vadvad> mm i dont think so..
[11:37] <what_if> vadvad: are there any other installs currently running ?
[11:37] <vadvad> no..
[11:37] <_XeN_> vadvad your prolly have synaptic running or something else that locks the directory
[11:37] <vadvad> nothing running..
[11:37] <kahrytan> vadvad: You don't need it. Use sudo
[11:38] <jijutm> bokeh: first of all .. the kernel from the netboot pack is probing for CD.. and just refuses anything else..
[11:38] <sand_storm> so, i want to open a ".mdb" file
[11:38] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:38] <what_if> vadvad: something could have locked() the directory and then crashed... reboot :)
[11:38] <vadvad> use sudo insted of alien?
[11:38] <jijutm> Then I tried that from the netboot pack of a beta alternative cd... and now it says: no kernel modules found..
[11:38] <_XeN_> lol no
[11:38] <jijutm> some workaround was also mentioned
[11:38] <vadvad> reboot is good?
[11:38] <_XeN_> sudo is like fakeroot
[11:38] <vadvad> :)
[11:39] <PloneDudez> hi..how to find the webroot in my ubuntu server ....
[11:39] <what_if> vadvad: he's saying use sudo instead of logging in as root
[11:39] <_XeN_> like sudo apt-get install alien
[11:39] <jijutm> but with a warning that the installation is likely to fail.
[11:39] <_XeN_> or sudo -s -H
[11:39] <what_if> PlanarPlatypus: /var/www/
[11:39] <_XeN_> and then your command
[11:39] <_XeN_> :)
[11:39] <akey__> Hello, I can't update my edgy dist, can anybody help me?
[11:39] <what_if> PlanarPlatypus: if using apache
[11:39] <akey__> the message that I get when I try it is: "Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:39] <vadvad> ok i'll reboot and see if it works..
[11:39] <vadvad> 10x
[11:39] <kahrytan> vadvad: It is safer to user sudo then log in as root.
[11:39] <_XeN_> true
[11:39] <_XeN_> :)
[11:39] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, you can convert it using mysql, I think.
[11:39] <kahrytan> *USE
[11:40] <jijutm> bokeh: first of all .. the kernel from the netboot pack is probing for CD.. and just refuses anything else..
[11:40] <sand_storm> how?
[11:40] <vadvad> safer how?
[11:40] <_XeN_> its harder to be exploited
[11:40] <kahrytan> and protects system files.
[11:40] <_XeN_> plus if someone gains access to your system they dont have root access
[11:40] <crabgrass> and if you mistype something, there's far less chance of it being a catastrophe
[11:40] <_XeN_> so they cant really do as much as tehy would like :)
[11:40] <_XeN_> so its much safer
[11:41] <PloneDudez> hi, does anyone knows how to find the webroot folder in the ubuntu server...
[11:41] <vadvad> walla(a word in hebrew meanning - i got it!)
[11:41] <kditty> if i want to upgrade from dapper to edgy to feisty is it ok to use the feisty dvd after the edgy 700mb install cd? and also what is the benefit of the dvd install?
[11:41] <wimdows> hi - have installed VMWare Server, but can't seem to start it...though I could initially right after install
[11:41] <barbarossa> Dear friends. I've just had an issue with xchat-gnome. It may be a a security related thing as well. I made a search to see if its worth to report a bug. Then I realized that my xchat-gnome version is 0.13. But as stated in projects main Web area, last version is 0.17. 4th version after mine. And mine (0.13) is what synaptic offers me. Neither automatically updated nor it still offers newer versions at the moment. How can it be? It's a gnome project a
[11:41] <barbarossa> nd Ubuntu is one of the main GNOME platforms if its not the first one. Now that I don't even want to deal with bug reporting for that problem. xchat developers produced 4 more version after that fixing many many bugs. What is the use of still dealing with that age old version anymore. I'm really upset. What can yu say?
[11:41] <kahrytan> vadvad: You can use sudo (for bash) or gksudo for gui apps that need admin access.
[11:41] <akey__> hello, I can't update my edgy dist, the message that I get when I try it is: "Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:41] <_XeN_> kditty why would you wanna do all that upgrading? why not just do a fresh install?
[11:42] <jijutm> ploneduez: you should find it configured somewhere in the /etc/apache2/*.conf
[11:42] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto the dockbar
[11:42] <PloneDudez> thanks, jijutm...will look into it..
[11:42] <kahrytan> haru: what do you mean?
[11:43] <jenda> I'm trying to compile foo2zjs - can someone help me identify the error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17377/
[11:43] <jenda> I can't figure it out :(
[11:43] <haru> kahrytan, i just installed a dock applet like tiger OS
[11:43] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:43] <|ringo|> haru: whats the doc applet called?
[11:43] <kanzie> can someone help me with htpasswd in Apache, the apache-channel has noone that knows!
[11:43] <_XeN_> jenda automatix2 will install it for you :)
[11:43] <kditty> _XeN_, id like to keep my settings and programs, ive backed some up but im worried that ill lose data like i always do after a fresh install, something i forgot to back up like always :x
[11:43] <JanK> hi all
[11:43] <haru> kahrytan, avant
[11:43] <jenda> _XeN_: no it won't... I wouldn't touch automatix.
[11:44] <_XeN_> so kditty then do a clean install but keep your /home :)
[11:44] <crabgrass> wow, ext3's pretty fast in it's own right; just under an hour to move 85 gigs between disks
[11:44] <jijutm> I finished my torrent feisty DVD early today.. and to my dismay.. it does not support installing from the iso.. and now neither from network.. a big waste of 4G bandwidth..
[11:44] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, try this.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/mdbtools/
[11:44] <haru> |ringo|, its called avant
[11:44] <|ringo|> haru: cool
[11:44] <haru> |ringo|, its called avant window navigator
[11:44] <kditty> im really considering a fresh install, i just have a few worries like networking settings and mounted drives and such that took me a while to set up
[11:44] <|ringo|> haru: been looking for one for some time now
[11:44] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:44] <bezibaerch3n> how to start network-manager-openvpn via sudo? i guess that is the problem
[11:44] <_XeN_> jenda why wouldnt you touch automatix?
[11:44] <kahrytan> haru: You want to move it to the top?
[11:44] <JanK> Is there a way to disable libata at boot time with kernel parameter? libata steals my cdrom
[11:44] <what_if> jenda: do you have the source file with the error I can look at (pastebin)
[11:44] <wimdows> where can I see a diagnostics log to find out why a program didn't start?
[11:44] <jenda> !automatix | _XeN_
[11:44] <ubotu> _XeN_: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:45] <eRazor> Hi all
[11:45] <jenda> what_if: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz
[11:45] <haru> kahrytan, no i want it such that when i maximize an application.. the applicatins lower window border stays well above my dockbar
[11:45] <voRia> hi :)
[11:45] <haru> like it stays above the default panels
[11:45] <jenda> _XeN_: hmm, sorry, that's outdated - aut'x might not be proprietary any more.
[11:45] <kditty> _XeN_, are all my settings in my home dir? bookmarks and program settings etc?
[11:45] <jenda> _XeN_: but it's still a very bad idea to use it IMO
[11:45] <sand_storm> thebillywayne thanks!!
[11:45] <_XeN_> ehh it works fine for me and when i do have a problem its usally not hard to fix
[11:45] <crabgrass> jenda: it still breaks things, though
[11:46] <what_if> jenda: have you tried an older version of the source ?
[11:46] <eRazor> I formatted 2 partitions in fat32 format of 15GB each to a single partition in ext3 format without specifying the mount piint
[11:46] <eRazor> *point
[11:46] <jenda> what_if: nope, should I?
[11:46] <jenda> what_if: I'm on Feisty
[11:46] <wimdows> is there a system-wide log file somewhere that tells me why an app didn't start?
[11:46] <haru> kahrytan, any ideas?
[11:46] <kahrytan> haru: Nope. I don't use it.
[11:46] <eRazor> Can someone help me? I want to use these partitions as Logical Volumes
[11:46] <pacey> did recently anyone manage to get graphics acceleration on an amilo li 1705 running (via chipset)
[11:46] <orbin> barbarossa: i've probably got it wrong but i think the release gets frozen and candidate packages have to meet a certain deadline.  i can see where you're coming from.  the version of ndiswrapper packaged with feisty has a bug that stops me from using wireless.  i had to compile the latest.
[11:46] <kahrytan> haru: I don't use a compositor.
[11:46] <haru> kahrytan, thanks anyways
[11:47] <haru> how do i configure ubuntu to expand/maximize to a part of screen.. say upto a dockbar
[11:47] <jenda> crabgrass: very much so - from what I hear.
[11:47] <what_if> jenda: do you have the C development libraries installed ?
[11:48] <jenda> what_if: muhehe... maybe I don't - it's a nearly fresh install. Is that in build-essential?
[11:48] <eRazor> Can someone help me in creating and managing Logical Volumes?
[11:48] <crabgrass> jenda: take it from my personal experience; it does
[11:48] <orbin> wimdows: did you initiate the stat?  or was it something you set to happen at boot?
[11:48] <what_if> jenda: I dunno, try libc6-dev
[11:48] <jenda> crabgrass: don't worry, I'm not touching it - I've been around long enough to know the evil it is ;)
[11:48] <orbin> wimdows: try running it from a terminal if it's persistent.
[11:49] <yo2lux> What package I need to install to use ./configure, ./make and ./make install ?
[11:49] <what_if> jenda: and build-essential is for building debian packages, not compiling from source
[11:49] <jenda> what_if: ok, will install that, then.
[11:50] <wimdows> orbin - yes, I initiated it...ok - will try from term to see if I get an error
[11:50] <what_if> yo2lux: make
[11:50] <yo2lux> yes but ./configure not work
[11:50] <bloodMuffin> hellpppp
[11:50] <kahrytan> yo2lux: does the directory has a configure script?
[11:50] <mrcreativity> how do i autostart beryl?
[11:50] <mc44> jenda: you know foo2zjs is in the repos, right? :P
[11:51] <yo2lux> no
[11:51] <crabgrass> lol not like that, that was the close window button
[11:51] <bloodMuffin> help with grub and partitions please
[11:51] <_Lockee> Hello all.
[11:51] <rsa_md5> hey guys, instead of using 'burn an image' option in Nero, I 'added' the iso file in the CD-RW. Now the CD-RW can't be read and can't be erased also.......help please
[11:51] <kahrytan> yo2lux:  then thats why configure doesn't work.
[11:51] <jenda> mc44: I also know that 1) my printer doesn't work with it and 2) the author says I shouldn't use it on his site...
[11:51] <PloneDudez> hei guys, how to find which folders are designated as webroot folders ah... i am reading the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf...am i supp to find here..if so under which seciton..thanks
[11:51] <Gendo> hi
[11:51] <bloodMuffin> i copied my old partition to a new one and now grub gives me error 17
[11:51] <crabgrass> rsa_md5: try closing the disc, then erasing it
[11:51] <Parmenion> rsa_md5: shred the cd and burn a proper one
[11:51] <what_if> jenda: ok, let me know if the libs works ):
[11:52] <crabgrass> well, goodnight all
[11:52] <mc44> jenda: bah, any excuse. You are a gentoo user at heart, really
[11:52] <rsa_md5> err......'closing' and 'shredding'......could u pls elaborate?
[11:52] <Parmenion> crabgrass: how to I find out what router people are using when they vary from the default essid
[11:52] <jenda> mc44: :) Try /ctcp version ;)
[11:52] <kditty> what is the difference in an ubuntu regular cd, and an ubuntu dvd?
[11:52] <Parmenion> how to I find out what router people are using when they vary from the default essid
[11:52] <PloneDudez> rsa_md4: he just wants to discard it..)
[11:52] <Gendo> guys Ubuntu noobie here... can someone help me with RAID0 ICH7R install?
[11:53] <Parmenion> the ubuntu dvd has packages on disc
[11:53] <bloodMuffin> helpppp how do i set GRUB to boot a new partition, not the old one
[11:53] <Parmenion> when grub is booting up, press "e"
[11:53] <mc44> jenda: it is non specific :)
[11:53] <what_if> bloodMuffin: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:53] <thebillywayne> sand_storm, hope it works for you. :)
[11:53] <rsa_md5> crabgrass:what about 'closing' the disc?
[11:53] <Parmenion> or anything to that extent
[11:54] <kditty> Parmenion, do they give an option to install packs during os install, or would i have to install from disk just like i install from the internet?
[11:54] <jenda> what_if: it's installing libstdc++6-4.1-dev as part of build-essential... I hope std's can't be carried by c++ code ;)
[11:54] <what_if> jenda: lol
[11:54] <bloodMuffin> ive tried editing menu.lst, and i still obtain error 17 when grub tries to load
[11:54] <bloodMuffin> pressing e has no effect
[11:54] <Gendo> anyone? :\
[11:54] <jenda> mc44: really? It should say gentoo... the shell ;)
[11:54] <Parmenion> kditty: i have no idea ... but i believe that they would modify the installation to a certain extent ....
[11:54] <PloneDudez> hei guys, how to find which folders are designated as webroot folders ah... anyone knoes...or is this really complicated stuff
[11:54] <mc44> -jenda- VERSION irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux i686
[11:55] <Parmenion> but most probably you would need to install it from the dvd ...
[11:55] <jenda> mc44: I see. Well it's gentoo ;)
[11:55] <Parmenion> could anyone point me to a kismet guide ?
[11:55] <eRazor> can help in creating a logical volume please????
[11:55] <wimdows> orbin - seems like VMWare Server doesn't think it's properly configured - even though I configured it correctly before
[11:56] <darren> how do i reboot emu ?
[11:56] <darren> qemu
[11:56] <fulat2k> eRazor: have you created a partition?
[11:56] <bloodMuffin> !grub
[11:56] <kanzie> which software do you recommend "Brasero" or "GnomeBaker"
[11:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <jenda> kanzie: I recommend trying both ;) Brasero is rather cool... gnomebaker is not bad either.
[11:56] <wimdows> when trying to run vmware-config.pl again - it now can't stop the Virtual Ethernet service - resulting in not being able to complete the configuration
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: I have created a partition as ext3
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: it is a 30GB partition
[11:57] <jenda> what_if: BTW, libc6-dev is also included in build-essential
[11:57] <AnRkey> hi all
[11:57] <Madpilot> kanzie, for basic data burning, just use the CD/DVD Creator in the file manager. For music, use Serpentine.
[11:57] <eRazor> fulat2k: I did not specify any mount point
[11:57] <Chetwin> Is this where I come for 6.06 support?
[11:58] <fulat2k> eRazor: cool.  well, get into fdisk and change the partition type to 8e (Linux LVM)
[11:58] <what_if> jenda: nice, I only looked at the summary :)
[11:58] <Madpilot> Chetwin, sure
[11:58] <kanzie> Im just gonna burn a dvd with files
[11:58] <AnRkey> does anyone know what the mac style bar at the bottom of this pic is called? http://static.flickr.com/112/284328104_6995c6f4b7_o.jpg
[11:58] <kanzie> Madpilot: Im just gonna burn a dvd with files
[11:58] <Chetwin> I don't have alsa support
[11:58] <Chetwin> can I just install alsa?
[11:58] <eRazor> fulat2k: Even thats done
[11:58] <Madpilot> kanzie, then use the file manager - drop your blank DVD in, go from there.
[11:58] <jenda> what_if: and yep, it works now :) thanks... I guess I shouldda thought of that... since it has probably happened every time I clean installed so far ;)
[11:58] <fulat2k> eRazor: great.  now run pvcreate /dev/<partition>
[11:59] <what_if> jenda: yeah, I started looking at the errors and it was missing <stdio.h> / dead givaway
[11:59] <eRazor> fulat2k: my partition is /dev/hda8
[11:59] <topato> I've installed a printer on a linux machine with CUPS and shared it on my LAN. I can access it via the browser on port 631, yet I cannot see it in os x printer browser.. should I share it with samba or something else?
[11:59] <eRazor> fulat2k: Should I replace that for the pvcreate command?
[11:59] <fulat2k> eRazor: yes
[11:59] <_Lockee> Hello all. I am having huge problems with vmware player and madwifi. When vmware services starts during install the following fails: "Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0 failed" and  "NAT service on /dev/vmnet8 failed". I've done some reading and know there's something with the madwifi. So I have the latest madwifi (cvs:ed it today), I have also tried to commet out the USE_HEADERLEN_RESV part. No luck so far
[12:00] <fulat2k> eRazor: do you have any existing volume group?
[12:00] <eRazor> fulat2k: No
[12:00] <eRazor> fulat2k: I did pvcreate
[12:00] <_Lockee> Any help would be very much appriciated
[12:00] <eRazor> fulat2k: This is the message I got,   "Physical volume "/dev/hda8" successfully created"
[12:01] <fulat2k> eRazor: that's great.  now you have an empty storage container to play with.  next, you create the volume group
[12:01] <eRazor> fulat2k: How to do it?
[12:01] <fulat2k> eRazor: vgcreate
[12:01] <fulat2k> eRazor: read the usage
[12:02] <eRazor> fulat2k: complete command please
[12:02] <jenda> what_if: I have absolutely no idea what that means ;)
[12:02] <jenda> what_if: but thanks anyway.
[12:02] <jenda> 
[12:02] <kronos> topato: i believe cups will be needed on os x too for this to work
[12:02] <eRazor> fulat2k: I want the entire 32GB under in one partition
[12:02] <mc44> jenda: its a standard header file
[12:02] <topato> kronos: Oh, I thought that would be included by default
[12:02] <Parmenion> guys, a question, if i compile kismet from /home/~/Desktop/kismet , can i delete safely afterwards?
[12:02] <jenda> mc44: did I say I _wanted_ to understand?
[12:03] <Parmenion> as in, delete the folder safely
[12:03] <what_if> jenda: yw :) If this were an RPG I would get [geek +1]  [programmer +1] , lol
[12:03] <eRazor> fulat2k: Can you give me the command fully please
[12:03] <mc44> jenda: shall I put it in terms of VB so you can undersand? :p
[12:03] <jenda> mc44: I can mute you here, too ;)
[12:03] <eRazor> fulat2k: I am not getting it.
[12:03] <Parmenion> guys, a question, if i compile kismet from /home/~/Desktop/kismet , can i safely delete the folder afterwards?
[12:03] <jenda> what_if: hehe :)
[12:03] <Bokeh> mmmmm racial geek bonuses
[12:03] <Bokeh> Parmenion: you should be able to, yeah.
[12:03] <what_if> Parmenion: only if you never want to uninstall it
[12:04] <Bokeh> even if you want to uninstall it you can download the source again :)
[12:04] <orbin> *cough* checkinstall *cough*
[12:04] <barbarossa> orbin: Hi Orbin. xchat-gnome's 0.13 version is dated July 19th, 2006. This is the last one in our repository. Then they produced 0.14 at October 15th, 2006; 0.15 at October 29th, 2006; 0.16 at January 10th, 2007; 0.17 at April 1st, 2007.
[12:04] <barbarossa>  But we still use 0.13. Are those people of xchat-gnome out of mind to relaese those versions? Its an official gnome project. Why don't we have the newer versions via synaptic. This is my question.
[12:04] <barbarossa>  I can download and install the new version manually as well but why there's synaptic then?
[12:04] <Parmenion> Bokeh: then do a make uninstall from there ?
[12:04] <fulat2k> eRazor: vgcreate <whatever name you want to name your volume group e.g. volgroup1> <the physical volume you created using pvcreate i.e. /dev/hda8>
[12:04] <Parmenion> after re dling the source?
[12:05] <Bokeh> install it from source again the same way you installed before, then do a make uninstall, yeah
[12:05] <orbin> barbarossa: *shrug* sorry.  you'll have to find someone more knowledgable about ubuntu's packaging practices.
[12:05] <Bokeh> i mean, i hardly ever save the source of anything, unless i made some major modifications
[12:05] <Bokeh> barbarossa: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:06] <eRazor> fulat2k: Done
[12:06] <Bokeh> because if you run dapper, it's not very strange you run an old version
[12:06] <leagris> barbarossa, no one care about IRC anymore, oh wait ;D
[12:06] <barbarossa> Bokeh: 6.10
[12:06] <eRazor> fulat2k: What to do next?
[12:06] <vattam> fulat2k: i wanted to know how to divide one large volume
[12:06] <mc44> barbarossa: it is .16 in feisty
[12:06] <Bokeh> then it's not very suprising, stable/testing trees are there for a reason.
[12:06] <vattam> of memory into smaller divisions
[12:06] <Steil> f-spot wont run....gives dbus error....any idea?
[12:07] <Bokeh> if you want to run the latest versions of software, i'd recommend installing the testing release
[12:07] <PloneDudez> hei guys, how to find which folders are designated as webroot folders
[12:07] <Steil> Cant' get a connection to the dbus. Trying again...
[12:07] <Steil> Starting new FSpot server
[12:07] <Steil> Cant' get a connection to the dbus. Trying again...
[12:07] <Steil> Starting new FSpot server
[12:07] <barbarossa> mc44: It doesn't explain why synaptic doesn't offer it fon me for 6.10 as well. as an automatic update. It isn't produced for Feisty.
[12:08] <Bokeh> cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled && grep -iR documentroot *
[12:08] <mc44> barbarossa: because once it is released, the packages are only updated for serious bugs
[12:08] <kippi> does anyone know how to chnage the font in wine?
[12:08] <eRazor> fulat2k: What to do next? After vgcreate?
[12:08] <mc44> barbarossa: the whole point is releases are stable, i.e. packages dont change
[12:08] <wehttamb_> is there any comand i can run from the terminal to make rhythmbox open and start playing
[12:08] <Bokeh> xchat-gnome is .13 in edgy
[12:08] <Bokeh> and that's when it got frozen.
[12:09] <^^PiscesChineseB> can anyone teach me how to install ubuntu?
[12:09] <fulat2k> eRazor: now you create your logical volumes which will be the devices you mouint.
[12:09] <Bokeh> ofcourse you can always use feisty-backports
[12:09] <peter77> could reinstalling fix the tearing when I move my windows (wobble enabled)?
[12:09] <mc44> Bokeh: edgy backports, rather
[12:09] <Bokeh> true, sorry
[12:09] <Bokeh> edgy-backports
[12:09] <Parmenion> hey guys, how exactly do i compile ?
[12:10] <eRazor> fulat2k: How to do it? I am totally new to this, please help me
[12:10] <wehttamb_> from the terminal how can i make rhythmbox open and start playing a playlist
[12:10] <webmind> anyone here that can help me with converting evolutions accounts to the new system ?
[12:10] <Parmenion> there doesnt seem to be a makefile in the untarred folder
[12:10] <eRazor> Till I create a partition that is completely usable
[12:10] <^^PiscesChineseB> can anyone teach me how to install ubuntu?
[12:10] <Bokeh> what do you want to know about installing ubuntu?
[12:11] <mc44> wehttamb_: rhythmbox /path/to/playlist doesnt work?
[12:11] <Bokeh> have you tried tossing in the livecd and clicking on the "install" button yet? :)
[12:11] <^^PiscesChineseB> bokeh can pm me?
[12:11] <barbarossa> mc44: Thanks.
[12:11] <Bokeh> nah, i'm doing too much things at once for that :)
[12:11] <Bokeh> just ask your question here, that way there'll be more people to help you out.
[12:11] <^^PiscesChineseB> can i install it to a unallocated drive?
[12:12] <woogmo> f
[12:12] <Bokeh> yeah, if you use the livecd installer it should ask you where you want to install it
[12:12] <drago> eRazor: try www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_lvm_whitepaper_SuSE.pdf
[12:12] <^^PiscesChineseB> yes
[12:12] <JanK> how can i disable libata at boot time from install cd. is there a kernel parameter ?
[12:12] <wehttamb_> no it just opens rhythmbox and thats all
[12:12] <^^PiscesChineseB> can i install it to a unallocated drive?
[12:12] <wehttamb_> i want it to start playing
[12:12] <^^PiscesChineseB> so i click it then i click forward
[12:12] <^^PiscesChineseB> roght
[12:12] <^^PiscesChineseB> right
[12:12] <fulat2k> eRazor: lvcreate -L <size> -n <name e.g. opt, shared> <your volume group name>
[12:12] <Bokeh> well, i haven't used the feisty installer yet tbh
[12:13] <drago> eRazor: just miss the parts with Suse natural staff Yast and cope with command line
[12:13] <^^PiscesChineseB> so mount point ?
[12:13] <wehttamb_> if i right click on the playlist and go to open with rhythmbox then it will open rhythmbox and start playing
[12:13] <wehttamb_> but i want to do it from the terminal
[12:13] <fulat2k> eRazor: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml
[12:13] <PloneDudez> Bokeh: is the DocumentRoot /var/www...the webroot...thanks man
[12:14] <fulat2k> eRazor: brb
[12:14] <Bokeh> /var/www is the default webroot, yeah
[12:15] <Bokeh> picses: you should be able to have it install on your empty drive automatically
[12:15] <Bokeh> and partition automatically as well
[12:15] <Bokeh> which is what i would recommend
[12:15] <wehttamb_> how can i start rhythmbox and make it play a playlist from the terminal
[12:16] <adrigen> anyone: can you recomend a  tutorial for booting fiesty from a usb drive?
[12:16] <Bokeh> rhythmbox --help
[12:16] <PloneDudez> Bokeh: another qn..man, i have this directory installed under the www root...how do finds its external web address..
[12:16] <Bokeh> that gives you --playlists-file
[12:17] <Kassah> what package provides Disks Manager?
[12:17] <Bokeh> PloneDudez: your external web address is the IP adress of your computer.
[12:17] <wehttamb_> i have looked in the help and it hasnt helped me
[12:17] <Kassah> I'm just looking to assign a mount point for one of my hard drives
[12:17] <Bokeh> and if you're behind a NAT router it will be the external address of your internet connection
[12:17] <Bokeh> assuming you've done port forwarding
[12:18] <PloneDudez> Bokeh: yeah..lets say it http://www.abc.com/?...how do i find ? for this particular products in the www root folder
[12:18] <Zeddy> anyone have any experience of playing Warcraft through crossover office (is this possible) ?
[12:18] <Bokeh> sorry, you want to find out what the webroot is for www.abc.com ?
[12:18] <khasper> hello
[12:18] <Bokeh> you'll have to set a VirtualHost for that, but i think that subject is better suited to #apache
[12:19] <peter77> I'm getting tearing when I move windows, beryl and Metacity
[12:20] <Bokeh> peter77: disable desktop effects
[12:20] <Bokeh> or rather: wobbly windows
[12:20] <peter77> Bokeh, have done
[12:20] <vattam> Bokeh: how do i divide a memory volume once i have created the partitions
[12:20] <vattam> Bokeh: currently i have 60GB under ext3
[12:20] <wehttamb_> can anyone help me start a playlist in rhythmbox from the terminal
[12:21] <vattam> Bokeh: how do i divide it further?
[12:21] <Bokeh> ehm
[12:21] <Bokeh> a memory volume?
[12:21] <Bokeh> you mean you made a partition and want to make more partitions out of it?
[12:21] <PloneDudez> Bokeh: its been all set up previousely by a senior collegue..then suddenly someone "anonymous" person in my office went and restarted the server...prev i could go to the site..like www.abc.com/alpha...but now it says Site Error and resource not found...
[12:21] <vattam> Bokeh: yeah
[12:21] <vattam> Bokeh: am i clear?
[12:21] <Bokeh> well, you'll have to use fdisk or some graphical version to repartition
[12:22] <Bokeh> you can't just "make" multiple partitions out of an existing partition without losing all data on the old partition though
[12:22] <vattam> Bokeh: can you guide me through the procedure
[12:22] <peter77> Bokeh, at first I thought it was just because of beryl's wobbley windows, but that doesn't seem to be the case
[12:22] <Bokeh> no, not really, sorry... searching for linux partitioning howto should help you out
[12:22] <Bokeh> did you try different drivers peter?
[12:23] <Bokeh> or searched the ubuntu forums for people with similar problems
[12:23] <fotoflo> how do i change my login shell?
[12:23] <vattam> Bokeh: ok
[12:23] <peter77> Bokeh, I have an intel GPU so the drivers are already pre installed
[12:23] <Bokeh> ok, which drivers do you use? intel or vesa?
[12:24] <peter77> intel
[12:24] <tatters> Everytime I move mouse in syslog I get keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240] ,,,This error sometimes stop log monitor from working  becuase it is forever filling up
[12:24] <kronos> fotoflo: search for your user in /etc/passwd , and change /bin/bash or your current shell... in whatever chel you want
[12:24] <Bokeh> ok, weird... i don't have much problems with my own intel videocards, so i'd recommend searching the ubuntu forums for this problem
[12:24] <Bokeh> and launchpad
[12:24] <kronos> *shell*
[12:24] <Bokeh> launchpad.ubuntu.net and ubuntuforums.org
[12:24] <fotoflo> thanks kronos
[12:24] <drago> fotoflo: sudo wipw ....and change the shell at the end of a row with your login name in front
[12:25] <peter77> Bokeh, did you have to install the intel drivers yourself?
[12:25] <PloneDudez> thanks..Bokeh for all the help... :)
[12:25] <foug> I'm using beryl and I have a window that I like to overlap outside of my desktop onto a different one, but anytime I close it and open it again it moves. Is there a way to sticky a window permanatly?
[12:25] <Bokeh> PloneDudez: sorry i can't be more help, but apache isn't something very  easily debugged through irc :)
[12:25] <Bokeh> i'd recommend getting someone in who knows how to configure apache, he should be able to find the problem pretty easily
[12:27] <peter77> bokeh, did you have to install the intel drivers yourself, I assumed ubuntu installed them!
[12:27] <Bokeh> ubuntu installed them
[12:28] <Bokeh> what video card do you have?
[12:28] <Bokeh> i740, i8xx or i9xx ?
[12:29] <peter77> Mobile 945GM
[12:29] <Bokeh> ok, which driver are you using currently?
[12:29] <PloneDudez> Bokeh: its awrite man...If I cud just find the guy in my office..who screwed it up..I gonna give him a gud asswhooping.. :)... bye fellars.
[12:29] <Bokeh> hehe
[12:30] <Bokeh> because you might want to try the drivers provided by xserver-xorg-video-i810
[12:30] <Stig> Hi all. I am having a weird problem with my wireless networking on Ubuntu Feisty... When my laptop is on battery power, the wireless network never seems to connect. I see the icon in the top with two circles, the bottom circle does light up green sometimes, but it never actually connects, even though I have 80%+ signal. As soon as I plug my laptop into the mains instead of using battery power, the wireless seems to connect!
[12:30] <Stig> Also, could you tell me what "keyring manager" is, because it seems to always ask for my pass. I have also noticed when I try to manually configure my wireless network, the only password choices are WEP, but I use WPA... It works OK on "roaming mode" though and seems to know it's WPA, but I can't manually configure it...
[12:31] <Bokeh> or xserver-xorg-video-intel in case you already have the i810
[12:32] <peter77> bokeh?
[12:32] <Bokeh> yeah?
[12:32] <zeroday> Stig: The key ring manager is where you can store your wep and wpa passwords and such
[12:33] <kira> hi @ all! how can i activite the beryl on the 7.04? Where is the simply button to klick aktivate ? ;-)
[12:33] <zeroday> Stig: to use WPA i think you need to use 128bit option
[12:33] <Bokeh> kira: system->preferences->desktop effects
[12:34] <Stig> The only choices I have under "password type" is WEP hexadecimal and WEP ascii
[12:35] <zeroday> Stig: Are you using fiesty with network manager applet and what wireless card and laptop do you have?
[12:35] <kira> no desktop effects avaible
[12:36] <zeroday> kira: or you can just install beryl from wiki.beryl-project.org which is really easy
[12:36] <Bokeh> what do you mean? the button isn't in the menu, or does it give you an error message, or doesn't the button work?
[12:36] <Stig> disconnected :(
[12:36] <tatters> how can I stop an event being logged in syslog
[12:36] <regius> hi do someone know what to set class to in hcid.conf so a phone can detect the computer?
[12:36] <kira> i installed with apt-get install beryl
[12:36] <zeroday> Stig: Are you using fiesty with network manager applet and what wireless card and laptop do you have?
[12:37] <Mikhael> is there a "wizzard" in Ubuntu to configure a firewall for ICS like in windows ?
[12:37] <zeroday> kira: I recommend you install it from beryl-project.org
[12:37] <zeroday> Mikhael: There is the firestarter firewall (in synaptic)
[12:38] <Mikhael> thanks zeroday.. I'll look into that
[12:38] <Stig> Yes, I think do. Feisty automatically recognised my wireless card (ipw3945) and installed the restricted drivers. I am using a Dell inspiron 9400 with a broadcom 3945 wireless card.
[12:38] <zeroday> np
[12:38] <jacquesmerde> regius: i just connected my phone to my computer
[12:38] <regius> jacquesmerde: can you copy paste your line from hcif.conf? class 0x....
[12:39] <ashish> I want to dynamically invoke the constructor.& constructor is having  Dbus filter,which receives messages
[12:39] <zeroday> Stig: can you go to System>Administration>Network and manually configure and connect to a wireless network when on battery?
[12:39] <_Lockee> I have problems with vmware player and madwifi. I've done some extensive reading about this on the net and none of the solutions I found works for me... I am using the latest madwifi (cvs) and whatever version there's in the repos of Feisty
[12:39] <eRazor> bye all
[12:39] <zeroday> byw
[12:40] <eRazor> #ubuntu  just rocks
[12:40] <zeroday> *bye
[12:40] <zeroday> thanks
[12:40] <eRazor> I have never gone out of #ubuntu without solutions
[12:40] <eRazor> bye all
[12:40] <_Lockee> Bye eRazor
[12:40] <zeroday> bye
[12:41] <stef__> stupid beryl
[12:41] <zeroday> stef__: Whats wrong?
[12:42] <stef__> i'm having an ATI xpress card
[12:42] <zeroday> ok...
[12:42] <oxigen> hi all! I have problem with brute force ssh attackers and I found interesting solution, but I dont know how to run this (as shell script maybe?) http://www.bleedingsnort.com/sec/ssh-brute.sec
[12:42] <rambo3> beryl told you to post in wrong channel ?
[12:42] <stef__> and on my ubuntu 6.04 i had no problem what soever using beryl
[12:42] <Bokeh> oxigen: http://hexten.net/pam_abl/
[12:42] <stef__> now, every tutorial is telling me i have to disable composite extension
[12:42] <Bokeh> use that.
[12:43] <Bokeh> the thing you want to use is a snort plugin
[12:43] <Bokeh> which would require you to install a complete snort monitoring server
[12:43] <stef__> but, beryl cannot start without that composite extension
[12:43] <kavit> hey does ubuntu support parallel filesystems like GFS and PVFS? does anyone have any recommendations as to which works best?
[12:43] <oxigen> Bokeh: tahnk you!
[12:43] <Bokeh> nps
[12:43] <oxigen> *thank
[12:43] <kavit> i am trying to setup a cluster application
[12:43] <oxigen> :)
[12:43] <Bokeh> pam_abl is quite easy to install
[12:44] <wimdows> I have exactly the same problem as described here - with VMWare Server: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=495735
[12:44] <oxigen> Bokeh: ok, i'll try
[12:44] <itguru> Morning people :)
[12:44] <wimdows> just no solution ... :-(
[12:44] <zeroday> hi and its evening for me lol
[12:44] <e> ubunturules
[12:45] <Bokeh> wimdows: that's a vmware problem, not an ubuntu problem
[12:45] <Bokeh> unfortunately
[12:45] <zeroday> stef__: Whats the comosite extension and why do you have to enable it?
[12:45] <e> hey where can i see my uptime?
[12:45] <Bokeh> i have the same issue on ubuntu, debian, and redhat machines.
[12:45] <Bokeh> to say it mildly: vmware's init system sucks donkey balls.
[12:45] <stef__> zeroday: i have no idea
[12:45] <xtknight> kavit, ubuntu (at least Feisty) supports GPS according to a cat of the kernel config file, but grepping PVFS doesnt seem to reveal any entries at all
[12:45] <zeroday> stef__: Which guide are you following?
[12:45] <wimdows> Bokeh - is it a know problem?
[12:46] <wimdows> *known
[12:46] <Bokeh> yeah
[12:46] <Bokeh> it's been there for years.
[12:46] <wimdows> any fix?
[12:46] <Bokeh> and vmware won't release any official fix for any "unsupported" os
[12:46] <Stig> zeroday: No, it only works in roaming mode. My wireless network needs WPA, but I can only see WEP in manual configuration.
[12:46] <xtknight> kavit, additionally i have no idea what either of those are but i thought i'd let you know GPS was in the Ubuntu Feisty kernel (CONFIG_GFS_FS=m, CONFIG_GFS2_FS=m, CONFIG_CONFIGFS_FS=m)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> e: type uptime in terminal
[12:46] <stef__> zeroday: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732
[12:46] <xtknight> GFS*
[12:46] <Stig> zeroday: No, it only works in roaming mode. My wireless network needs WPA, but I can only see WEP in manual configuration.
[12:46] <zeroday> Stig: not sure sorry
[12:46] <Stig> My network manager is playing about a bit
[12:46] <e> sweet
[12:47] <wimdows> Bokeh - damn - and I was going to order more RAM and an extra HDD to run Windows XP within VMWare Server on Ubuntu
[12:47] <Bokeh> i've fixed it once a long while ago
[12:47] <Bokeh> but i absolutely wouldn't know what i did back then, was on a redhat system
[12:47] <e> hmm i see my uptime, but also 2 user? root is the other user?
[12:48] <wimdows> Guess I have to dig around on the net a bit more
[12:48] <Bokeh> i'd suggest following the tips in the second post of the topic you linked
[12:49] <wimdows> Bokeh - yeah done that, and quite a few services fail to stop...
[12:49] <wimdows> so have to manually kill 'em
[12:49] <thnee__> so i just installed feisty 7.04, what packages do i need for my nvidia fx5600xt?
[12:50] <felixhummel> help please! nautilus does not open .html in firefox although i set it as default browser in preferred applications (feisty).
[12:50] <itguru> I got a question, does every motherboard have a CMOS reset switch? I've got the oldish packahrd bell machine in here, which doesn't have one, and is really messing up my morning :(
[12:50] <jsgotangco> thnee__: Restricted Drivers manager should be able to determine
[12:50] <Bokeh> itguru: OEM machines are notorious for not having one.
[12:50] <zeroday> stef__: had a look sounds complicated whats the error you get when starting beryl
[12:50] <winkiller> hi, can someone tell me how I can upgrade my breezy to feisty in one step (without edgy, dapper, etc) without downloading an image?
[12:50] <thnee__> jsgotangco: ah, cool thingy, thanks
[12:50] <Bokeh> the dell desktops here don't, for example.
[12:51] <Bokeh> winkiller: run update-manager
[12:51] <Bokeh> it should give you a message that a new release is ready
[12:51] <Bokeh> and give you the option of upgrading
[12:51] <LjL> winkiller: that's not possible
[12:51] <zeroday> Bokeh: for breezy to fiesty
[12:51] <felixhummel> itguru, what about disconnection the machine, removing the battery and waiting?
[12:51] <zeroday> Bokeh: he cant
[12:51] <Bokeh> oh, lokl
[12:51] <Bokeh> sorry, didn't see breezy
[12:51] <Bokeh> no, you're screwed then :P
[12:51] <Bokeh> well, you can update from breezy to dapper, dapper to edgy, edgy to feisty
[12:52] <Bokeh> but you'll need to do it manually
[12:52] <winkiller> and booting with a breezy cd and changing the repository paths to netinstall?
[12:52] <Bokeh> and dapper to edgy is..... notorious at the very least
[12:52] <Bokeh> winkiller: that'll go terribly wrong
[12:52] <winkiller> damn
[12:52] <LjL> winkiller: or you could just keep your home partition somewhere safe, get a list of your packages, and reinstall.
[12:52] <LjL> !cloning > winkiller    (winkiller, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:52] <Bokeh> i'd recommend reinstalling indeed
[12:52] <winkiller> I don't mind a format, I just mind burning an image
[12:52] <Bokeh> why's that then?
[12:53] <winkiller> got no free cds/rws/dvds here
[12:53] <Bokeh> hehe
[12:53] <billfur> winkiller, you could try modifying your apt config to grab feisty and hope that the world does not end
[12:53] <fotoflo> what does tar -xof do
[12:53] <fotoflo> ?
[12:53] <billfur> It *may* not
[12:53] <winkiller> lol
[12:53] <Bokeh> billfur: fat chance :)
[12:53] <LjL> winkiller: you could netinstall, but that's such a hassle i'm afraid, and you need another computer
[12:53] <winkiller> meh, that was better with debian :P
[12:53] <LjL> winkiller: or you could try "burning" to a USB key, but i don't know how that's done either
[12:53] <LjL> !install > winkiller    (winkiller, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:53] <Bokeh> most likely you'll kill a baby seal, blow up the world's nuclear reserves and destroy your installation to an unworkable state
[12:53] <billfur> Bokeh, I've never had an upgrade problem... in fact I've only had to reinstal ubuntu once, and that was randomly during feisty alpha
[12:53] <Bokeh> winkiller: tried upgrading 2.x to 3.0 for kicks?
[12:54] <LjL> winkiller: well, try moving from one stable Debian to another stable Debian that's two releases apart ;) granted, they last more.
[12:54] <itguru> felixhummel: Good idea :) I'd forgotten about that
[12:54] <winkiller> Bokeh: don't remember, but with netinstall it normally went ok. :P
[12:54] <felixhummel> :D
[12:54] <felixhummel> GTH
[12:54] <oxigen> Bokeh: what about snort, isn't good enough or is too complicated to install?
[12:54] <winkiller> and! you had 2years  time between releases
[12:54] <winkiller> not less than 1 :P
[12:54] <Bokeh> billfur: ofcourse, it "might" work. then again, dapper to edgy is very notorious for it's resemblance to a wrecking ball
[12:54] <thnee__> i have activated the restricted driver for my nvidia card but ubuntu still doesnt provide me with the screen resolutions i want, i know i can run 1600x1200 but i only get 1024x768 as maximum
[12:54] <winkiller> LjL: thanks, I'll go have a read then
[12:55] <Bokeh> winkiller: if you know how to work with apt-get, this is what you could do
[12:55] <kippi> does anyone know how to chnage the font in wine?
[12:55] <LjL> winkiller: well, there is Dapper for that sort of timespan (i can't swear that there will be a direct upgrade path from Dapper to LTS+1, but maybe)
[12:55] <Bokeh> change your repos to dapper, run an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:55] <Bokeh> reboot
[12:55] <billfur> Bokeh, whats the harm in trying, if it doesn't work he still has to get a cd =0
[12:55] <Bokeh> check if everything's update
[12:55] <Bokeh> updated*
[12:55] <Bokeh> then, change your repos to edgy, run an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. reboot
[12:55] <Bokeh> check again
[12:55] <Bokeh> change your repos to feisty, run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; reboot; pray
[12:56] <itguru> felixhummel: seems the battery is GLUED into place!
[12:56] <billfur> I recommand praying at every step though
[12:56] <Bokeh> billfur: ofcourse, just so that he makes sure to backup stuff
[12:56] <winkiller> that's lots of downloads. then I'd better find some clean cdr :P
[12:56] <Bokeh> yeah
[12:56] <felixhummel> omg. itguru: send it to trash ;)
[12:56] <winkiller> too fast release cycles! last time I booted Dapper wasn't out :P
[12:56] <felixhummel> why is my .xinitrc not recognized any more?
[12:57] <Bokeh> upgrading from breezy to feisty has a very very small probability of succeeding. you could try, but you'd most likely have to download an install cd anyway :)
[12:57] <billfur> theres my method which is change your repos to edgy, sacrifice a virgin, run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; reboot, pray
[12:57] <billfur> The human sacrifice is essential here
[12:57] <winkiller> virgins are hard to find these days
[12:57] <billfur> This is freenode, I'm sure you can find one
[12:57] <itguru> felixhummel: wish I could :) it's a client machine
[12:57] <winkiller> lol
[12:57] <Bokeh> i believe it works better if the virgins has his MCSE
[12:57] <winkiller> oh, male virgins allowed? that's new..
[12:58] <billfur> allowed but not recommended for maximum efficiency
[12:58] <himeraz> how do i see the user list in xchat
[12:58] <darren> how do i reboot qemu  pleasE?
[12:58] <winkiller> himeraz: still /who? or fanxy graphical stuff? :P
[12:59] <himeraz> the fancy stuff :p
[12:59] <zeroday> why do java apps not work under beryl (like limewire)
[12:59] <himeraz> java apps dont work in general :P
[12:59] <darren> lol
[01:00] <rsa_md5> isn't there a way to force erase a cd-rw
[01:00] <himeraz> azureus works under beryl, what app you trying to run
[01:00] <zeroday> frostwire
[01:00] <himeraz> p2p program?
[01:01] <orbin> himeraz: you don't see the userlist on the right?
[01:01] <zeroday> linux ver of limewire
[01:01] <himeraz> rsa_md5: there was something about that on ubuntuforums,org, do a search
[01:01] <himeraz> orbin: nope
[01:01] <crow> Hi all, Can someone help me with wirelles setup and network menager. I setup access point that dont have any coding algoritham etc but i cant connect to my router even then.. (i enter correct ssid but notthing)
[01:02] <rsa_md5> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2328289
[01:02] <rsa_md5> this one? it doesn't help though
[01:02] <fsckr> himeraz, it should be resizable i had same problem and didn't realize it was sized so i cant see it
[01:02] <thnee__> what do i have to do to make ubuntu use a higher resolution than 1024x768?
[01:02] <fsckr> you can check in preferences to see if its check marked to be resized
[01:02] <xorllu> zeroday, I have similar problem with beryl, but in my case not work (I cant' see) any menu and after application minimise i can't it again maximise :(
[01:02] <himeraz> fsckr: alright ill poke around
[01:02] <Bokeh> thnee__: buy a better monitor?
[01:03] <thnee__> Bokeh: that is so not funny
[01:03] <robbbbbb> whats the difference between sudo and sudo su? :)
[01:03] <Bokeh> why not? does your monitor support resolutions better than 1024x768?
[01:03] <himeraz> the user list was hidden :p
[01:03] <thnee__> ofcourse
[01:03] <wimdows> thnee__ - edit your xorg.conf
[01:04] <orbin> !fixres > thnee__  (see PM from ubotu)
[01:04] <wimdows> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:04] <Bokeh> ok, in that case do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <Bokeh> or edit xorg.conf manually
[01:04] <himeraz> rsa_md5: there is a beta version of nero for linux, try using that for erasing
[01:04] <felixhummel> 915resolution does not work any more. is it feisty-related?
[01:05] <thnee__> i did add the resolutions to each mode in xorg.conf but it still runs in 1024x768 and doenst give me any higher options
[01:05] <himeraz> did you install ati/nvidia drivers?
[01:05] <rsa_md5> himeraz: i will try to explain the problem, instead of buring the iso image to the cd-rw I added it just like a data file.....now the disk can't be read, leave alone erasing it
[01:05] <himeraz> woah
[01:06] <thnee__> himeraz: yes
[01:06] <himeraz> i don't think i ever managed to do that, theoretically you should be able to read it, i burned several cd iso's on a dvd before
[01:07] <rsa_md5> yes, theoritically, but......
[01:07] <himeraz> on the other hand you might have busted the cd-rw
[01:07] <himeraz> give nero a shot, see if the erase option it has recognizes the cd
[01:08] <kira> hi all again me! i have a strange sitation with nv driver i have 1600x1200 resolution but with the nvidia driver i have just 1440x1050 somebody else have the same problem?
[01:08] <orbin> thnee__: it also depends on the monitor rates.  check the link ubotu gave you and see section 3.
[01:08] <rsa_md5> himeraz: when lnux doesn't detect the cd-rw in the drive, I doubt it would help me............tho thanks for ur time
[01:09] <himeraz> well i suggest trying to erase it under windows then
[01:09] <himeraz> worth a shot
[01:10] <himeraz> kira: add the resolution to your xorg.conf file
[01:11] <himeraz> theres a button to edit your xorg in the nvidia menu
[01:11] <valehru> does anyone know of any alternatives to html2text?  Its kinda crap
[01:12] <zeroday> does anyone know any type of mac like window navigater like avant
[01:12] <kira> i did but nothing happens i have just the 1440
[01:12] <darren> dam it  my winxp keeps jamming  in qemu
[01:14] <himeraz> kira: hmm, just set it to 1600x1200 from the ubuntu resolution selector, or that doesnt work?
[01:14] <ugarit> I'm upgraded to feisty and now swap is not mounted.  How do I mount it and how do I make sure it is mounted at bootup?
[01:14] <ugarit> s/I'm/I've
[01:14] <valehru> does anyone know of an alternative to html2text?  its kinda crap
[01:15] <support> can anybody help me with linux networking
[01:15] <Drac|BComp> hi.
[01:15] <wimdows> Bokeh - fixed the vmware thing
[01:15] <kira> no my maximum resolution is 1440 1050 if i choose nvidia driver
[01:15] <wimdows> need to apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-386
[01:15] <wimdows> and also netkit-inetd
[01:15] <zeroday> does anyone know any type of mac like window navigater like avant
[01:15] <kira> with nv driver i have the resolution 1600 1200
[01:16] <wimdows> previously was using inetdx I think
[01:17] <thnee__> why is it always so fucking hard for hw manufacturers to keep the specs for their products :( http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=GDM20SE&region_id=1  theyve got nothing on my monitor, now how am i supposed to fync out what sync and refresh it has
[01:17] <PriceChild> !ohmy | thnee__
[01:17] <ubotu> thnee__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <himeraz> kira: the nvidia drivers dont detect your graphic corectly or something, try searching the forums, never had that problem
[01:18] <thnee__> yeah
[01:18] <Bokeh> hehe ok
[01:18] <Bokeh> then it was a different problem than the one i've had every now and then
[01:18] <orbin> kira: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto (see section 9)
[01:18] <ugarit> I've upgraded to feisty and now swap is not mounted.  How do I mount it and how do I make sure it is mounted at bootup?
[01:19] <kira> thanks
[01:19] <wimdows> Bokeh - aye - well, I'm happy as a pig in sh1t...means I can now get some more memory and hdisk and run XP within Ubuntu ;-)
[01:19] <thnee__> and the link orbin gave me tells me to run ddcprobe which isnt installed or even installable from synaptic
[01:19] <MrM> hi, i have a question regarding routing. i have virtualbox installed with the host interface tap0 bridged to br0 / eth0. the virtualbox windows has a dynamic ip on the same subnet as my linux lan (192.168.0.x). the linux machine is connected to a VPN (PPTP) network using pppd. here's my problem: i can ping machines on my lan and the internet from virtualbox fine and i can ping machines on the VPN from my linux machine. however, i cannot ping
[01:19] <MrM>  machines from the VPN from the virtual box machine. i tried messing around with routing tables etc. but i don't get it. any ideas?
[01:19] <support> can anybody please help me with a networking issue
[01:20] <rommaz> ugarit: most probably your /etc/fstab file has been changed during upgrade. you will need put reference to swap there. Check for older backup files, in most cases they should work fine
[01:20] <zaggynl> thnee__, http://www.si87.com/MonitorSolutions/sony/gdm20se20sei.html
[01:20] <zaggynl> support, just 'dump' the question ;-)
[01:20] <MrM> ugarit, try "swapon /dev/whatever", then check why it does't work
[01:20] <Xyc0> So I am totally jazzed that codecs are installed on demand, but can anyone help me fix why I have audio only when playing an AVI?
[01:21] <orbin> thnee__: did you read the line right above the command?
[01:21] <thnee__> zaggynl: oh cool. thanks
[01:21] <orbin> ugarit: check /etc/fstab
[01:21] <thnee__> orbin: what?
[01:21] <wimdows> Xyc0 - ok so you're missing some video codecs...
[01:21] <ziadoz> are there any good guides for getting quicktime, wmp and real player content working in firefox on ubuntu?
[01:21] <rommaz> xyc0. not all possible codecs are installed just like that. To have picture, you need video codecs
[01:21] <wimdows> use VLC player
[01:22] <Xyc0> vlc has the same result
[01:22] <stefg> Xyc0: waht kind of avi in which player?
[01:22] <zeroday> does anyone know any type of mac like window navigater like avant
[01:22] <Xyc0> I tested with divx, xvid and MKV, though just to see if it could handle the package
[01:22] <Warbo> The Feisty upgrade is scarier than I thought. It makes my kernel panic :(
[01:22] <orbin> thnee__: "(install the 'xresprobe' package if the command is not available):"
[01:23] <Belutz> is feisty commercial repo already up?
[01:23] <orbin> thnee__: but heck if someone's found the right freqs for you go for it.
[01:23] <Xyc0> Is there a list of codecs I can install all at once just to get decent coverage?
[01:23] <stefg> Warbo: in case you do not use the provided boot line from grub: you need to pass the UUID of the root volume now, not the /dev no more
[01:23] <rommaz> xyc0 install all gstreamer packs: good, bad, ugly, etc
[01:23] <thnee__> yeah well now i entered the freqs from si87.com and now the only option is 800x600
[01:24] <patrick_> !effects
[01:24] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:24] <thnee__> so this is just getting worse
[01:24] <Warbo> stefg: Yeah, I already did on Edgy. It panics a short time after loading GDM
[01:25] <gordonjcp> on my P4 3GHz, MP3 playback is taking somewhere between 20 and 40% CPU
[01:25] <Bokeh> stefg: that's BS, you can always use the device node in grub
[01:25] <gordonjcp> rhythmbox isn't doing anything particularly unusual that I can see
[01:25] <gordonjcp> any thoughts?
[01:25] <Bokeh> in fact, i do it everywhere, because i want to see what device it boots from directly instead of having to sort out UUIDs on every system
[01:25] <stefg> Warbo: heard that song before... Feisty isn't as well tested as we all wish it had been. Any log entries which might be useful?
[01:25] <Xyc0> should I just sudo apt-get install gstreamer-*
[01:26] <ugarit> orbin rommaz: swapon /dev/sda5 worked and fstab has UUID=d15a6803-447d-4175-b3c6-7ea74e2015a1 none swap sw 0 0 but it's not automounted
[01:26] <himeraz> Xyc0: use automatix to install codecs
[01:26] <gordonjcp> even switching between windows is enough to make MP3 playback glitch
[01:26] <Warbo> stefg: I tried looking about in dmesg but can't find what is going on just before the kernel panic, since it gets full of the new boot messages
[01:27] <Warbo> It says something about bad RIP value being (000000000000) or something
[01:27] <Xyc0> Where can I find automatix, it's not in my repos
[01:27] <Xyc0> sorry, to himeraz
[01:27] <stefg> Warbo: what kind of system is that? Do you have SATA or PATA-hd?
[01:27] <Matt4781581> is it worth upgrading from dapper to feisty?
[01:27] <Warbo> stefg: SATA. Dapper didn't recognise it, but Edgy did.
[01:28] <Xyc0> Matt4781581: I like it alot
[01:28] <himeraz> select show all available applications in the add/remove manager
[01:28] <himeraz> should be in there
[01:28] <Warbo> Matt4781581: Depends whether you want new features or a long-supported stable distro
[01:28] <himeraz> on the other hand its not
[01:28] <himeraz> hold on
[01:28] <support> can anybody help me with linux networking please
[01:29] <jatt> !ask
[01:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <tony__> what do you want help on?
[01:29] <himeraz> Xyc0: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[01:29] <Xyc0> himeraz: thnx, ill check that out
[01:29] <jatt> !automatix
[01:29] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:29] <stefg> Warbo: then you might be a "victim" of the libata experiments currently taking place in the so-called stable kernel... all i can tell is 'search the forums', i finally rolled my own kernel. Maybe someone else knows what's wrong
[01:30] <jatt> (don't use automatix)
[01:30] <himeraz> dont install anything besides codecs with it :p
[01:30] <Warbo> stefg: OK, thanks anyway. Was just wondering if it was a known issue, and maybe whether installing from scratch would have the same problem
[01:30] <tony__> I have used automatix with no problems
[01:31] <himeraz> i had the same problem Xyc0 had with sound not playing in flash in firefox but playing in avi's, reinstalling codecs with automatix fixed it
[01:31] <rommaz> xyc0: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-* should be fine
[01:31] <stefg> Warbo: the kernel has it's problems, so a reinstall won't fix it, i guess
[01:31] <Albertop> ciao a tutti
[01:31] <Warbo> stefg: Well at least I won't go wiping my system for nothing now :)
[01:32] <Albertop> hello to all
[01:32] <Albertop> Can I ask for a help?
[01:32] <thnee__> ok seriously, i have added the modes as they should be added to the xorg.conf and they dont show in the manager and are not used when i restart X manually
[01:33] <thnee__> this is supposed to be the easy part
[01:33] <Xyc0> Still not getting any video after sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-*
[01:34] <stefg> Xyc0: have w32codecs installed?
[01:35] <Xyc0> stefg: That is not an available package
[01:35] <Xyc0> so much for codec retrieval
[01:36] <stefg> Xyc0: not /officially/ available
[01:36] <void^> Xyc0: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[01:36] <luddite> hi if i were to modify ubuntu 7.04 for realtime and preemptive - how would i best go about this?
[01:37] <stefg> Xyc0: hey you can't blame the codec wizard that it won't install proprietary codecs with an IP attachment.
[01:38] <Xyc0> stefg: IP?  lol im not blaming anything, just muttering to myself outloud online.
[01:38] <void^> Xyc0: though, from reading up i'd say your problem isn't with codecs. vlc/mplayer and even gstreamer with automatically downloaded plugins should be able to play 99.9% of avi/mkv
[01:38] <jrib> Xyc0: what version of ubuntu
[01:38] <Xyc0> feisty i386
[01:39] <rommaz> xyc0: also might be corrupted download of video file
[01:39] <stefg> Xyc0: we live in a world where certain companies strive to vendor lock media content... sad fact of life. Best thing you can is simply not use, nor want that, even if it's impractical at times
[01:39] <Xyc0> rommaz: I have watched these files many times
[01:39] <jrib> Xyc0: gnome-open /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg      does this show video?
[01:40] <Xyc0> jrib: no it does not
[01:40] <Xyc0> hmm
[01:40] <jrib> Xyc0: what player?
[01:40] <rocky> is there any sort of tool available to easily configure a daily syncrhonization of files between a desktop and a laptop?
[01:40] <Xyc0> jrib: totem
[01:40] <davisc> rocky: rsync
[01:40] <rocky> something other than rsync (or at least higher level on top of rsync) ?
[01:40] <zeroday> rocky: rsync
[01:41] <davisc> rocky: Higher level?
[01:41] <zeroday> he means like a gui or easier config
[01:41] <rocky> indeed
[01:41] <AdministratorX> Good Morning from Smyrna, GA
[01:42] <luddite> how can i modify 7.04 for realtime and preemptive?
[01:42] <zeroday> wheres GA?
[01:42] <jatt> in USA
[01:42] <luddite> GAP
[01:42] <luddite> its a store
[01:42] <zeroday> oh in the US
[01:42] <stefg> !info linux-image-lowlatency | luddite
[01:42] <thnee__> re these horszsync and vertrefresh supposed to be the same with any resolution?
[01:42] <ubotu> luddite: linux-image-lowlatency: Low latency Linux kernel image. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.20.15.14 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:42] <davisc> rocky: rsync -avP source/ destination/ is pretty simple I think :-)
[01:43] <jrib> Xyc0: pastebin the terminal output when you try mplayer on that file
[01:43] <davisc> rocky: Though 2 way sync could be tricky
[01:43] <luddite> stefg: thats cool is low latency realtime and preemptive?
[01:43] <rocky> hm, just googled and found unison and unison-gtk which seems to be more about 2-way sync than rsync
[01:43] <Xyc0> jrib: I don't have mplayer installed, I figured if VLC cant play it, something is broken
[01:43] <stefg> luddite: i'd guess so.... but i've not looked into the details too much
[01:44] <jrib> Xyc0: indeed, mplayer gives pretty good debugging output though
[01:44] <davisc> rocky: Indeed. Looks good. Must remember it
[01:45] <luddite> stefg: thanks - i will try now
[01:46] <support> network help please!!
[01:46] <zeroday> support: whats wrong?
[01:46] <cj_> help pls error in E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[01:46] <cj_> how to configure that
[01:47] <cj_> please help !!!
[01:47] <cj_> thanks
[01:47] <zeroday> cj_: just run that command in the terminal
[01:47] <Xyc0> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17392/
[01:47] <cj_> what command should i run??
[01:47] <rommaz> xyc0: what does 'file' command say about that video?
[01:47] <zeroday> the dpkg command you just pasted
[01:47] <jrib> cj_: dpkg --configure -a
[01:47] <zeroday> ye
[01:47] <cj_> ahh ok thanks
[01:47] <zeroday> np
[01:48] <Xyc0> rommaz: just posted in pastebin
[01:48] <crow> Hi all, Can someone help me with wirelles setup and network menager. I setup access point that dont have any coding algoritham etc but i cant connect to my router even then.. (i enter correct ssid but notthing)
[01:48] <Assimilator> !grub
[01:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:48] <jrib> Xyc0: run it with the ogg
[01:48] <Xyc0> crow: are you detecting any SSID with network-manager?
[01:48] <cj_> zeroday: thanks
[01:49] <mwe> !wifi | crow
[01:49] <ubotu> crow: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:49] <cj_> support:  whats wrong with your network
[01:49] <jrib> Xyc0: are you running beryl or compiz btw?
[01:49] <Xyc0> jrib: I am
[01:49] <benofsky> I'm looking for a textmate like text editor for ubuntu
[01:50] <jrib> Xyc0: have you tried stopping those to see if the problem persists?
[01:50] <Xyc0> I did in the beginnig
[01:50] <support> i can see my linux pc in windows
[01:50] <leleobhz> in what package are the proprietary hardware detection??
[01:50] <benofsky> any recomendations
[01:51] <Xyc0> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17393/ this is without Composit manager
[01:51] <jrib> benofsky: what features does gedit lack that you want?
[01:51] <thnee__> ok so i have modified xorg.conf correctly and still only get 800x600, i have dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg, got a blank screen, set the horizsync and vertrefresh and then i only get 800x600, whats up with ubuntu disregarding xorg.conf?
[01:51] <leleobhz> someone
[01:51] <leleobhz> ?
[01:51] <Xyc0> jrib: unless I need to restart x all together
[01:51] <ALL4N> hey, I'm having problems running amsn.. I only get 'Segmentation Fault' message. Any suggestions?
[01:52] <Xyc0> leleobhz: way to wait 30 seconds
[01:52] <benofsky> jrib, I dunno I've only started using this laptop today the thing I need most is to be able to open whole directories and have tabs
[01:52] <benofsky> as well as syntax highlighting, etc.
[01:52] <benofsky> because I do alot of RoR and pylons
[01:52] <leleobhz> Xyc0: ok
[01:52] <stefg> thnee__: There might be confusion because the monitor is reporting wrong or no DPMS capabilities. This is a CRT, right?
[01:52] <jrib> benofsky: gedit has tabs and syntax hilighting.  By "open whole directories" you just mean open all the files in a directory right?
[01:52] <Warbo> stefg: Thanks for the help, I think I've found it reported in Launchpad and using irqpoll, noapic and nolapic on GRUB's kernel line apparently worked for some people so I'll give it a shot. Cheers
[01:53] <thnee__> stefg: this is crt yes, http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=GDM20SE&region_id=1
[01:53] <benofsky> jrib, I don't nessecarily wont them all open at the same time but a side panel or something with the directory listed
[01:53] <benofsky> one sec I'll show you a screen shot of what I mean
[01:54] <benofsky> jrib, http://blog.mattmecham.com/blogimages/textmate.jpg
[01:54] <stefg> thnee__: ca you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin
[01:54] <cj_> zeroday: how to configure dhcp server
[01:54] <Xyc0> leleobhz: What driver are you trying to install?
[01:54] <leleobhz> Xyc0: fglrx
[01:54] <leleobhz> but i want the app of ubuntu to do this
[01:54] <jrib> benofsky: yep gedit can do that, just enable the "file browser pane" plugin
[01:55] <benofsky> thanks
[01:55] <leleobhz> (and %#$%#$ why its dont shiped with kubuntu?)
[01:55] <cj_> zeroday: i install the dhcp3-server and configure it
[01:55] <Xyc0> leleobhz: Just from my experience today, the open source driver works awsome
[01:55] <Xyc0> leleobhz: because that would be illegal
[01:55] <leleobhz> Xyc0: not with mine
[01:55] <jrib> Xyc0: idk, you may have to restart X
[01:55] <leleobhz> radeon xpress 200m
[01:55] <cj_> zeroday: but still i could not star
[01:55] <AlbertoP_> hello
[01:55] <thnee__> stefg: pastebin.ca/455690
[01:56] <Xyc0> leleobhz: If you are trying to use Compiz/Beryl, you need the open source drivers
[01:56] <rambo3> Xyc0, yes ati works much better then fglrx
[01:56] <leleobhz> Xyc0: nope
[01:56] <leleobhz> Xyc0: 200m dont work with radeon driver
[01:56] <pr0t0type> hi ! I need help with the nvidia drivers on 7.04... downloaded the driver from nvidia homepage, unistalled every nvidia driver in synaptic, and started with "sh nvidia....", setup started, but when setup is done, x-server fails .... what did i wrong ??
[01:56] <Xyc0> leleobhz: I jsut did this today
[01:56] <leleobhz> only fglrx
[01:56] <jrib> benofsky: gedit is applications > accessories > text editor  btw
[01:56] <stefg> thnee__: k, hold on
[01:56] <kavit> we need a ubuntu-cluster meta package
[01:56] <kavit> !!!!!!!
[01:56] <leleobhz> Xyc0: direct rendering: No
[01:56] <leleobhz> dont work
[01:57] <thnee__> stefg: sure
[01:57] <Xyc0> leleobhz: Direct rednering is not important
[01:57] <Xyc0> leleobhz: try it my way and see
[01:57] <leleobhz> lets try
[01:57] <void^> pr0t0type: disable ubuntu's nvidia modules in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:57] <ralph_> #ubuntu-nl
[01:57] <leleobhz> Xyc0:
[01:57] <Xyc0> leleobhz: enable desktop effects and watch
[01:57] <void^> pr0t0type: and read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:57] <leleobhz> Xyc0: where?
[01:57] <leleobhz> have notting on kubuntu
[01:58] <Xyc0> brb restarting X
[01:58] <benofsky> jrib, thanks I guessed that was it
[01:58] <Warbo> Woo, seems to be working so far :D
[01:58] <pr0t0type> k thx void^ checking this :)
[01:58] <benofsky> I glanced over it thinking it was a notepad clone
[01:58] <stefg> thnee__: See in section Monitor: comment the DPMS out, and enter the correct valuses for your monitor in lines below (and uncomment them). But be careful, don't just make something up, it could damage the screen
[01:59] <porcho> hi there. I'm looking for a pdf reader which allows me to highline text and/or add notes. is there any available?
[01:59] <thnee__> stefg: the ones that are there now are correct, i commented out the ones genereated by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:59] <benofsky> porcho, openoffice writer maybe?
[01:59] <Warbo> Also, thank you to the developers for a) somehow making my self-compiled E16 window manager startup at the same time as GNOME, rather than waiting a few minutes, and b) for putting Kuickshow back in :D
[01:59] <cj_> jrib: do you know how to configure dhcp server please
[02:00] <stefg> thnee__: The CRT is bs'ing the graphics card... so to be safe you only get a fallback resolution
[02:00] <cj_> please help po
[02:00] <thnee__> stefg: bs'ing?
[02:00] <jrib> cj_: I never set that up
[02:00] <pr0t0type> void^ the linux-restricted-modules... is empty. should it be that way ? If yes, how do i disable it ??
[02:00] <stefg> b*llsh*itting :-)
[02:00] <cj_> ahh ok
[02:00] <cj_> thanks
[02:00] <Xyc0> jrib: No change after restarting X
[02:01] <thnee__> stefg: i commented out dpms with no change
[02:01] <jrib> Xyc0: try mplayer -vo x11 /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg
[02:01] <thnee__> i think im gonna call sony soon and ask for the correct freqs
[02:01] <porcho> benofsky: I was looking for something "lighter", like foxit reader for windows...
[02:01] <rambo3> cj_, you have example in config file for dhcp3-server
[02:01] <leleobhz> Xyc0: ?
[02:02] <support> can anybody help me with linux networking please!?
[02:02] <Xyc0> jrib: worked
[02:02] <Xyc0> jrib: what does that mean?
[02:02] <stefg> thnee__: hmmm, you might need a custom modeline. Do you happen to have a working xorg.conf from another install?
[02:02] <benofsky> porcho, I know completely what you mean
[02:02] <jrib> Xyc0: try mplayer -vo xv /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg
[02:02] <thnee__> stefg: if i had i could have just used that one right?
[02:02] <thnee__> stefg: so no
[02:02] <benofsky> but have no idea of something like that
[02:03] <benofsky> I primarily use mac :)
[02:03] <Xyc0> jrib: neg, it's the x11
[02:03] <thnee__> stefg: what doyou mean by custom modeline?
[02:03] <jrib> Xyc0: ok, what video card do you have?
[02:03] <rambo3> !ask | support
[02:03] <ubotu> support: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:04] <Xyc0> leleobhz: I am not sure what you are asking, if you are trying to get compiz working there is a special irc channel for that
[02:04] <stefg> thnee__: a special line in xorg.conf describing timings for a given reso
[02:04] <Xyc0> jrib: ATI x800
[02:04] <JoeBlack> Hi
[02:04] <magnetron> in two hours, the Ubuntu OpenWeek here at Freenode will recommence
[02:04] <JoeBlack> which file do i edit to define enviroment variables on Ubuntu 6.10?
[02:04] <jrib> Xyc0: have you installed drivers for it?
[02:04] <leleobhz> Xyc0: trying root@kahlua:/home/leleobhz/PROGRAMAS/DEBS# apt-get install desktop-effects compiz-kde
[02:04] <Xyc0> jrib: ati drivers
[02:04] <thnee__> stefg: dont think so, i dont recognize that
[02:04] <pr0t0type> hmm in xorg0.log i can read my chipset and it is the right one .... (i made xorg.conf "nv" not "nvidia) ....
[02:04] <porcho> benofsky: I've googled for it and found only a pretty old version of foxit reader for linux...it didn't feature highlines and notes though...think I'll code one! :-)
[02:05] <jrib> Xyc0: and you are sure those are enabled?
[02:05] <Xyc0> jrib: as in no proprietary
[02:05] <stefg> thnee__: but as i just read the !fixres factoid leads to a pretty comprehensive howto on fixing that problem. Have you been through that?
[02:05] <JoeBlack> yo
[02:05] <JoeBlack> which file do i edit to define enviroment variables on Ubuntu 6.10?
[02:05] <jrib> Xyc0: k, you don't want to install the proprietary ones?
[02:05] <thnee__> stefg: i have been through it
[02:05] <Xyc0> jrib: Compiz/Beryl don't work with propritary drivers
[02:06] <Xyc0> jrib: thought that's not uber important
[02:06] <JoeBlack> is it /etc/enviroment?
[02:06] <magnetron> JoeBlack, please be more specific. what do you want to do?
[02:06] <Xyc0> jrib: if you think that's the only way to get video working, I could try that
[02:06] <ub12> pr0t0type, nv is the generic driver it is not good you need nvidia
[02:07] <JoeBlack> i.e: define MOA_DIR as /mnt/rox/
[02:07] <rambo3> JoeBlack, what do you need to change?
[02:07] <jrib> Xyc0: well, you can run stuff through x11 and see if that bothers you (try to go fullscreen)
[02:07] <JoeBlack> the enviroment variable MOA_DIR should be linked to a dir
[02:07] <cj_> rambo3: yes
[02:07] <JoeBlack> and the enviroment variable VISOR should be set to "-s"
[02:07] <stefg> thnee__: so using the nvidia driver interferes with getting proper monitor specs. i'd suggest using the nv-driver, set the reso right, then changing back to nvidia
[02:07] <pr0t0type> ub12: how do i get this one away ??
[02:07] <jrib> Xyc0: press 'f' to go to full screen in mplayer
[02:07] <cj_> rambo3: i configure the sample file
[02:08] <JoeBlack> am i wrong yo?
[02:08] <rambo3> cj_, does it work?
[02:08] <cj_> no
[02:08] <Xyc0> jrib: no effect
[02:08] <rambo3> JoeBlack,  /j #mtv-raps
[02:08] <JoeBlack> rambo3: seriously, how do i set them?
[02:08] <dano_washere> Hi, i recently upgraded from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04. After it completed my whole Grub menu.lst file was left a complete mess.
[02:08] <cj_> doesn't work it's fail
[02:08] <jrib> Xyc0: as in, nothing happened when you pressed 'f'? or x11 didn't affect the full screen?
[02:09] <dano_washere> It had 3 kernels + 3 kernels recovery mode.
[02:09] <rambo3> JoeBlack, no idea , are you looking just for bash alias
[02:09] <Xyc0> jrib: sorry, full screen didn't effect video play
[02:09] <cj_> when i restart my dhcp3-server it's fail
[02:09] <thnee__> stefg: allright, ill try
[02:09] <JoeBlack> rambo3: enviroment variables
[02:09] <ub12> pr0t0type, have you gone through the whole "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf"?
[02:09] <magnetron> JoeBlack, use "export" command, but you need to do it in right place
[02:09] <leleobhz> ARG!
[02:09] <leleobhz> Xyc0: crashed!
[02:09] <Fathefner> how do u make ur wep key hexadecimal
[02:09] <leleobhz> #%@#$%#$
[02:09] <JoeBlack> magnetron: how do i save everything after i export?
[02:09] <cj_> rambo3: what do you think whats wrong in my configuration??
[02:09] <JoeBlack> the are going to be flushed after i reboot
[02:10] <JoeBlack> when you type "env"
[02:10] <KnifePoint> Do i just go ahead and ask a question here?
[02:10] <JoeBlack> where that stuff comes from?
[02:10] <magnetron> JoeBlack, that's the point, you need to do it in right place, the same context as they will be used in
[02:10] <leleobhz> this board dont run without fglrx
[02:10] <jrib> Xyc0: ok, so use x11 I guess until the ati driver issue is sorted.  Also, I'm sure other people that use ati and want to use beryl/compiz probably have this same problem, you can see how they work around it.  If you run 'gstreamer-properties' in a terminal you should be able to change the default video output for other stuff to "no xv".  See if that fixes totem
[02:11] <rambo3> cj_, whats the error ?
[02:11] <JoeBlack> magnetron: when you type "env" where all that info comes from?
[02:11] <jiminy> KnifePoint: You just did. ;o) But seriously, yes. Welcome aboard.
[02:11] <cj_> * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                                                                        [fail] 
[02:11] <pr0t0type> ub12:  when i do this it says it is not istalled ??
[02:11] <JoeBlack> if i export ROX_DIR=/mnt/rox it will go away after i reboot
[02:11] <cj_> that's the error
[02:11] <KnifePoint> Thanks just didnt want to interrupt
[02:11] <magnetron> JoeBlack, they are set in various boot scripts
[02:11] <JoeBlack> magnetron: I would need to set some enviroment variables
[02:12] <JoeBlack> where would i add them?
[02:12] <orbin> KnifePoint: well you can wait for total silence, but you'd be waiting a long while :)
[02:12] <JoeBlack> in /etc/enviroment?
[02:12] <JoeBlack> i think some can be set in there.
[02:12] <KnifePoint> I have a DWL-G630 PCMCIA in my laptop and im using the feisty live cd and i connect to my router fine but then i cant ping it very strange indeed ideas?
[02:12] <rambo3> cj_, :P check syslog
[02:13] <magnetron> JoeBlack, what program will use those variables?
[02:13] <cj_> ok
[02:13] <thnee__> stefg: using nv as driver on the Device section makes X say screens found but none have a usable configuration
[02:13] <rambo3> cj_, :P and there should be /var/logdhcp something of a log
[02:13] <thnee__> i dont get it, this works fine in any other distro, why is this such an issue on ubuntu?
[02:13] <JoeBlack> magnetron: a JAVA program someone at the corp is developing
[02:13] <AngryElf_> hey folks, all of a sudden my monitor is saying that the signal is out of range -- can I boot into a safe graphics mode (kinda like from the live CD)??
[02:14] <ub12> pr0t0type, look on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation and use www.google.com/linux
[02:14] <stefg> thnee__: so sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... select nv as a driver, and see if you get your reso without 3D.
[02:14] <nalpha> guys one simpel question, are rsync can synchronize data between 2 ftp server, I run rSync from linux server, if not what software can do it? thanx for the advice.
[02:14] <pr0t0type> thx ub12
[02:14] <JoeBlack> ok i got it.
[02:14] <Bokeh> AngryElf: if you press escape when grub starts (beginning of a reboot) you should be able to choose rescue mode
[02:14] <JoeBlack> the file /etc/enviroment will do t.
[02:15] <JoeBlack> err, it.
[02:15] <Bokeh> that'll give you a terminal though, not a graphical env
[02:15] <pr0t0type> thx by :)
[02:15] <magnetron> JoeBlack: try this: VARIABLE1=/dir VARIABLE=text command-to-start
[02:15] <KnifePoint> Anyone? ive kind of hit a brick wall here i need the wireless card to use my PC
[02:15] <samy> hi I have a prob with tomcat opening connections, the tomcat55 user doesn't have the rights. What group should I include it to?
[02:15] <ub12> pr0t0type, just watch with nvidia every time you do a kernel upgrade you have to reconfigure nvidia driver!!!
[02:15] <dano_washere>  Hi, i recently upgraded from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04. After it completed my whole Grub menu.lst file was left a complete mess.
[02:16] <UB`> what type of font do you use in terminal?
[02:16] <magnetron> !grun
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <magnetron> !grub
[02:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:16] <KnifePoint> It seems fine connected and all in the Network Manager but i can't ping anything
[02:16] <dano_washere> Ummm U cant boat anything
[02:16] <dano_washere> i*
[02:16] <dano_washere> boot*
[02:16] <Damian> pl?
[02:16] <dano_washere> It fails to load the filesystem
[02:16] <thnee__> stefg: same, the screen has no usable configuration...
[02:17] <jiminy> KP: Hmmm . . . I don't know your brand, so I'm reluctant to comment---wireless in general is a minefield. Have you tried searching the forums?
[02:17] <Damian> speak polish?
[02:17] <thnee__> stefg: it has from 1600x1200 down to 640x480.. so i say lies
[02:17] <jrib> !pl | Damian
[02:17] <ubotu> Damian: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:17] <stellaras> hi there i have a pc which i want to format , i have nothing that i need on it, with 200gb harddisk and 256Ram, now i want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu 7.04 i have both CDs.  Is there any tutorial/instructions about how to install both operating systems from the begin? i mean i have no operating system in the pc now
[02:17] <nalpha> what is the command for copying whole directory using FTP ?
[02:18] <jrib> !dualboot > stellaras (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:18] <Xyc0> jrib: hey man, thanks alot.  I got VLC to output to X11 and that seemed to fix the problem
[02:18] <stefg> thnee__: so you can restart X now and have higher resolutions?
[02:18] <thnee__> stefg: no?
[02:19] <samy> stellaras: first install windows and then linux. everything goes fine
[02:19] <Xyc0> stellaras: I just did that today, install windows first, when you install windows make the partition smaller then the harddrive by the amount you want to give to ubuntu
[02:19] <KnifePoint> jiminy: Its a D-Link and i have searched the forums and no one is having the same problem. In all respects it should work its connected to the router i cant understand how it connects but then cant ping the same router its connected to
[02:19] <JoeBlack> yo a quick question
[02:19] <AngryElf_> Bokeh: i'd rather get into gnome in 800x600 and reset the resolution to what it's supposed to be -- any way to do that?
[02:19] <Xyc0> stellaras: when you install ubuntu after windows, it will make a boot entry automatically for windows
[02:19] <thnee__> stefg: i just told you, it says that the screen has no usable configuration
[02:19] <JoeBlack> how do i find out wether the users on a box have permissions to write in the parallell port and the serial prot through the printer?
[02:19] <jrib> Xyc0: cool, the only issue will be with scaling (like if you do fullscreen).  xv takes advantage of your video card, while x11 doesn't.  If you have a fairly powerful system it won't be an issue I suppose
[02:20] <KnifePoint> jiminy: its using the ralink rt61 chip and fiesty is meant to work out of the box with it
[02:20] <Xyc0> stellaras: when you install ubuntu, used Guided Install: Use largest free space
[02:20] <luyang0416> hello.everyone
[02:20] <Xyc0> stellaras: I mean, Guided Partition
[02:21] <Xyc0> stellaras: wiki.ubuntu.com has alot of good info on dual boot
[02:21] <magnetron> !dualboot | stellaras
[02:21] <ubotu> stellaras: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:21] <stefg> thnee__: that's strange... so backup your xorg.conf and delete the original. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again. Never choose automatic anywhere, but do everything manually
[02:22] <Xyc0> magnetron: thnx, can never remeber how to use ubotu
[02:22] <stefg> thnee__: and of course don't forget to sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart afterwards
[02:22] <ryeth25> ANYBODY:  i'm searching over the internet to find what these symbols mean $, /, ., etc. and haven't been able to
[02:22] <ryeth25> anybody got a good idea where i can find info about these?
[02:22] <jiminy> KP: That *is* weird. I really don't have a clue what the problem could be. My sympathies.
[02:22] <tarzeau> why does switzerland not have a complete ubuntu mirror?
[02:22] <magnetron> Xyc0, you can test ubuto keywords by /msg ubotu
[02:22] <tarzeau> and why is the main mirror so slow?
[02:22] <jrib> ryeth25: in what context?
[02:22] <thnee__> stefg: more like sudo pkill gdm && sudo pkill X && sudo gdm, but i found the problem now
[02:23] <bimberi> JoeBlack: 'ls -l /dev/ttyS*' and 'ls -l /dev/lp*' - check what groups have access and whether the users are members of those gropus
[02:23] <humbolto> is there a console way to play a sound file through gstreamer?
[02:23] <bimberi> *groups
[02:23] <magnetron> !slow | tarzeau
[02:23] <ubotu> tarzeau: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[02:23] <thnee__> stefg: the site where i get the refreshrate from was wrong :(
[02:23] <stefg> thnee__: and it was?
[02:23] <ryeth25> well, i'm trying to learn how to use the terminal in ubuntu.
[02:23] <thnee__> stefg: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/sony/multiscan20se.html this one was right
[02:23] <KnifePoint> hmmm well ill keep searching then
[02:23] <thnee__> stefg: thanks alot for trying tho
[02:23] <jrib> !cli > ryeth25 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:23] <ryeth25> and there's a bunch of symbols like $ and / but i don't know what they mean
[02:23] <tarzeau> magnetron: apt updates and patience .. ouff
[02:23] <stefg> thnee__: so have a lot of fun with hi-res ubuntu :-)
[02:24] <thnee__> stefg: hehe i will, now im gonna try beryl
[02:24] <jrib> ryeth25: it really depends on the context.  '/' seperates directories in paths and '$' in your prompt denotes that you are a user in the default bash setup on ubuntu.  But you may see them elsewhere and they will mean something else...
[02:24] <tarzeau> will ubuntu get dpkg 1.13.25 sometime?
[02:25] <tarzeau> dpkg 1.13.25 supports lzma compressed deb packages
[02:25] <benofsky> what's the best irc client, not xchat that just crashes and I don't like lostirc
[02:25] <tarzeau> benofsky: irssi-text (irssi) in gnu screen?
[02:25] <FP> Hi all
[02:25] <jrib> benofsky: do you want to use an irc client that runs in a terminal or do you want a gui?
[02:26] <Warbo> Any idea why Xorg seems to like taking up 90%+ of both of my CPUs during trivial operations like moving a window (and no, I am not in Beryl or Compiz)?
[02:27] <benofsky> jrib, gui
[02:28] <benofsky> tarzeau, I prefer gui
[02:28] <benofsky> for my irc
[02:28] <thnee__> awesome, i just activated desktop effects and now i cant click with the mouse without taking a screenshot
[02:28] <jrib> benofsky: I'd say xchat is the best, other than that, maybe konsole?
[02:29] <jrib> benofsky: ugh, not konsole, I mean konversation
[02:29] <Xyc0> jrib: I just ran fullscreen with glxgears and didn't notice any slowdown
[02:29] <benofsky> jrib, you mean konversation
[02:29] <benofsky> ah
[02:29] <benofsky> xchat was great
[02:29] <benofsky> but I added a server and it won't open with "segmentation fault error"
[02:29] <Warbo> thnee__: Your system wants to show off that much :)
[02:29] <leleobhz> Xyc0: the problem with radeon: (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering broken on XPRESS 200 and 200M
[02:30] <jrib> benofsky: weird, rename ~/.xchat2 and see if it happens again
[02:30] <Xyc0> leleobhz: ah
[02:30] <MindOfChaos> I only seem to get 500 FPS fullscreen
[02:30] <MindOfChaos> glxgears
[02:30] <leleobhz> Xyc0: on xpress200 radeon dont work any 3d support
[02:30] <Pici> glxgears is not a benchmark.
[02:31] <benofsky> cool thanks jrib
[02:31] <BlackAuron> hi all! I've a little problem: after half an hour my pc is turned on, i get this error: kernel:disabling IRQ #7, and from that point on, i can't listen anything. How can i solve this? And, why I must start ubuntu with the noapic kernel directive?
[02:31] <first2di3|out> is there an ETA on the file: ubuntu-7.04-alternate-powerpc.iso ? when I try and get it the page gives me a Not Found error
[02:31] <thnee__> what is the keyboard shortcut to open the top menus?
[02:31] <Xyc0> leleobhz: System > Administration > Restricted Drivers
[02:32] <jjido> ctcp benofsky VERSION
[02:32] <jrib> thnee__: alt-f1, you can change it in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[02:32] <humbolto> how can I play a sound file through gstreamer from the console?
[02:32] <benofsky> jjido, ?
[02:32] <jjido> maybe there is a command to find the IRC client of other nicks
[02:32] <belleke> hello
[02:33] <jjido> sorry benofsky
[02:33] <benofsky> jjido, whois
[02:33] <benofsky> np
[02:33] <zaggynl>  jjido /CTCP nickname VERSION
[02:33] <belleke> whois benofsky
[02:33] <benofsky> all irc commands have / infront of them
[02:34] <benofsky> I was just guessing about whois I think whois is just name and host
[02:34] <MindOfChaos> Its cool my very unlinux friendly hardware
[02:34] <jjido> I know I forgot :)
[02:34] <MindOfChaos> actually runs with 7.04
[02:34] <MindOfChaos> Its never run on any linux version previous
[02:35] <benofsky_> jrib: it worked
[02:35] <jrib> benofsky_: if you can recreate the issue by just adding a server, please file a bug :)
[02:35] <benofsky_> :)
[02:35] <itworker> :-P
[02:36] <jjido> Does anyone know if WG511 wireless card works in Ubuntu? (I used to use it with Prism54)
[02:37] <jrib> first2di3|out: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[02:37] <heroin> Hallo
[02:37] <Galga> halo
[02:37] <thnee__> jrib: ok thanks
[02:37] <kippi> jjido: try the live cd?
[02:37] <Galga> heroin, even halo 3 is released
[02:37] <Gat0rvean> Is it necessary to run spyware removal software on Ubuntu? If so can anyone recomend a good program to do so?
[02:37] <heroin> Gat0rvean:  no its not
[02:38] <zaggynl> !nl | heroin
[02:38] <ubotu> heroin: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:38] <jrib> Gat0rvean: not necessary, I've never even heard of any spyware on linux
[02:38] <zaggynl> ;-)
[02:38] <magnetron> Gat0rvean: that would not be necessary.
[02:38] <niru> How ubuntu manages to keep the passord of root unchanged even after the sudo passwd root
[02:38] <Gat0rvean> What about cookie removal or temporary files, just standard cleanup stuff?
[02:38] <jrib> niru: why are you doing that?  There is no need for a root password
[02:38] <magnetron> !sudo | niru
[02:38] <ubotu> niru: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:39] <magnetron> !root | niru
[02:39] <AngryElf_> is there any way I can force xorg to boot into 800x600?
[02:39] <tarzeau> AngryElf_: sure
[02:39] <romain> hi!
[02:39] <AngryElf_> how?
[02:39] <AngryElf_> tarzeau: ^^
[02:39] <magnetron> niru: you use your own password with sudo, not the root password
[02:39] <tarzeau> AngryElf_: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:39] <AngryElf_> tea
[02:39] <Galga> heroin, but i m waiting eagerly for halo 2 on pc. will be a plus if available on xp or so
[02:39] <thebillywayne> Gat0rvean, firefox is an intelligent cookie handler.  temporary files are deleted when you shut down.
[02:39] <AngryElf_> yea?
[02:39] <jjido> AngryElf_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <Gat0rvean> thebillwayne, rgr, ty much
[02:40] <yellow_chicken> after upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10, sound card no work.  anyone know of a quick fix?
[02:40] <niru> magnetron, I want that even thoug I change sudo passwd root
[02:40] <niru> My root password should not get effected
[02:40] <magnetron> what?
[02:41] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken I had the same problem, download Gnome Alsa Mixer and unmute the sound card
[02:42] <jrib> ZERO_SHIFT: can't you just double click on the volume icon to do that?
[02:42] <zaggynl> Could be me, but why isn't it unmuted by default?
[02:42] <jjido> niru: rm /usr/bin/passwd
[02:42] <magnetron> niru, what do you want to do? the administrative work is done with sudo, with your own password, no need to fiddle with root.
[02:42] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT: you mean synaptic gnome alsa mixer?
[02:42] <ZERO_SHIFT> no you have to go the card itself
[02:42] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken yes
[02:42] <kane77> can I manually clear swap?
[02:43] <KALLEPALLI> :O
[02:43] <jeeves__> can someone give me a hand figuring out my sound system and why it dosn't work on this new laptop?
[02:43] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT: what about -><ZERO_SHIFT> no you have to go the card itself   , you talking to me?
[02:44] <niru> magnetron, actually let me explain what is happening
[02:44] <KALLEPALLI> could someone tell me how can i change the default font on firefox? I tried some fonts and now ff does not even start
[02:44] <ZERO_SHIFT> no, just install ALSA mixer and then unmute the card
[02:44] <niru> magnetron, when I do sudo passwd root and enter some password for root user it changes
[02:44] <Znortfl> Hello Ubuntu people, how can I tell java to permanently use less cpu? It keeps lagging my videos which is really annoying
[02:44] <niru> and it becomes possible for any user to change the password
[02:45] <jjido> niru: non-admin users too?
[02:45] <niru> jjido, yes that is my problem
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT: ok
[02:45] <niru> jjido, howe to stop that
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> thx
[02:46] <ZERO_SHIFT> great your welcome
[02:46] <ZERO_SHIFT> :)
[02:46] <magnetron> niru: they can change what password, the root pass or their own
[02:46] <blazemonger> should i have pnpbios enabled in my bios?
[02:47] <jrib> niru: only people who can sudo can do that.  If someone has sudo, they can already do whatever they want
[02:47] <niru> magnetron, they are able to change the root password using sudo
[02:47] <jjido> niru: if the user is part of the admin group that user can do sudo so he has maximum privileges
[02:47] <niru> magnetron, and I want to disable that
[02:47] <niru> jjido, oh
[02:47] <jjido> niru: remove the user from the admin group
[02:48] <magnetron> niru, jjido is right
[02:48] <niru> jjido, magnetron ok
[02:48] <mrcreativity> im having serioous problems with kubuntu and my nvidia card
[02:48] <koriel> I have a laptop and when booting grub freezed in grub loading, please wait...so I'm booting from a rescue cd and I got a buffer I/O on device sda logical block 1,2,3 ..etc..the hd led is always on...is my hd dead?
[02:48] <jjido> niru see /etc/sudoers
[02:48] <mrcreativity> i need help
[02:48] <KALLEPALLI> could someone tell me how can i change the default font on firefox? I tried some fonts and now ff does not even start
[02:48] <niru> jjido, ok
[02:48] <bhtb> hello all!
[02:48] <jjido> bye!
[02:48] <niru> jjido, but that file shows anly the previleges
[02:48] <magnetron> niru, chech system> admin >users
[02:49] <gharz> guys, is there an application for file recovery? i deleted a very impt file in my usb drive... please help.
[02:49] <jeeves__> can someone give me a hand getting my sound set up?
[02:50] <magnetron> gharz. is it a flash drive?
[02:50] <niru> magnetron, how casn i check which user is in which group
[02:50] <luddite> jeeces
[02:50] <gharz> magnetron, yes...
[02:50] <luddite> have you installed alsa-gui?
[02:50] <magnetron> gharz, then you are out of luck
[02:50] <ExxKA> gharz, depends on how you deleted it, please unmount the flash drive, and don't mount it, untill the file was been recovered
[02:50] <gharz> huwaaaa!!!!
[02:50] <|thunder> I just changed fstab, how do I make the changes active without restarting?
[02:50] <niru> magnetron, I founf that mu user is in admin group
[02:50] <ExxKA> has*
[02:50] <bef> hi
[02:50] <niru> magnetron, And how can I change it to some other group now
[02:50] <eichi> ubuntu on a 166 MB RAM machine with 1g hd... oder better a damn small linux?
[02:50] <ExxKA> gharz, it's possible, don't worry
[02:51] <jrib> |thunder: did you modify anything that is currently mounted?
[02:51] <gharz> magnetron & ExxKA, thanks for the info!
[02:51] <|thunder> jrib; yes.
[02:51] <|thunder> jrib; a ntfs drive ?
[02:51] <jrib> |thunder: unmount what you modified, then run 'sudo mount -a'
[02:51] <chazco> hi... i recently upgraded to the latest Ubuntu release (dist-upgrade via the upgrade GUI)... all seems good except that when i resume from hibernation my LAN doesnt always work... ifup/down doesnt fix it and i end up having to restart to get it back... Any ideas?
[02:51] <|thunder> jrib; thanks
[02:51] <ZERO_SHIFT> Ubuntu doesn't come with the root account enabled.  To
[02:51] <ZERO_SHIFT> enable it you have to 'sudo passwd root' and set root's password.
[02:51] <ZERO_SHIFT> Otherwise, you have to sudo everything.
[02:51] <gharz> maybe i'll try wi*dows... i had an app that recovers deleted files even on usb drive. thanks guys.
[02:52] <magnetron> niru, the properties of the use, you can choose if the user should be admin or not
[02:52] <Gabz> !register
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[02:52] <niru> magnetron, in general what should be the groyup of any user
[02:53] <Gyro54> gharz, check your hidden files on the usb stick for .trash folder
[02:53] <niru> magnetron, is that defined by the system or the person
[02:53] <KALLEPALLI> nevermind, got it
[02:53] <jeeves__> luddite:  are you any good with setting up sound cards?
[02:53] <niru> magnetron, which file I need to edit for changinf the group by default
[02:53] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ what r u looking for?
[02:53] <gharz> Gyro54, ok... i'll do that.
[02:54] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  new laptop, and everything is on auto detect, but still no sound.
[02:54] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, still no sound. i clicked unmute
[02:54] <magnetron> niru, in the "users" app, open the settings for that user, go to priviligies tab, there is a check box for administrative rights, uncheck it
[02:54] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ ALSA MIXER?
[02:55] <albert> isn't opera in the repositories?
[02:55] <luddite> jeeves: i know a bit. type envy24mixer
[02:55] <BlackAuron> re all...how should i set up the bios so that i can start my pc without the noapic directive? ( right now, if I try to launh linux without it, i've a kernel panic..)
[02:55] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  still nothing
[02:56] <niru> magnetron, that is already unchecked
[02:56] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ did you try moving the sound tabs up and down in Gnome Alsa mixer??
[02:56] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ what pc r u usin?
[02:56] <magnetron> niru: apply then and you should be done with it
[02:56] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  I'm poking around in the sound prefs.  and I'll find a URL of my lappy
[02:56] <albert> isn't opera in the repositories? i just did a server install with fluxbox and i have no webbrowser available ;)
[02:57] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ ok
[02:57] <Gyro54> albert, OPera is in the repositories
[02:57] <magnetron> Gyro54, it isn't
[02:57] <ZERO_SHIFT> LLTC ----> Long Live The Community !!!
[02:57] <niru> magnetron, but you told if it is checked that creates problem but in my PC its lready unchecked means the user is not having previliges
[02:57] <albert> mmh
[02:57] <|thunder> yay, ntfs write support for me.
[02:57] <jeeves__> zero_shift: http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?lg=en&section=1&group=1&product=5617&part=6073#spectop
[02:58] <albert> well, epiphany then :(
[02:58] <magnetron> niru: it should not be checked. don't check it. it should be empty
[02:58] <zaggynl> |thunder, careful with that, it's certainly not 100% safe
[02:58] <magnetron> !info opera
[02:58] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in feisty
[02:58] <Gyro54> Albert, Ubuntu Edgy commercial repository
[02:58] <|thunder> zaggynl; not safe to write files? or not safe to modify them ?
[02:59] <|thunder> zaggynl; or both ?
[02:59] <albert> i think i got my edgy sources.list safed
[02:59] <albert> thanks
[02:59] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ is this the first time you installed ubuntu on your laptop? Feisty?
[02:59] <zaggynl> |thunder, afaik is write support not considered fully safe, I'm not sure what it involves, but I've kept my ntfs partitions read only
[02:59] <zaggynl> +mounted
[02:59] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  it worked fine on my other Toshiba.  I think it's just becasue of the conex hardware in this one
[02:59] <chazco> bluetooth pan also ceases to work after hibernaton, but can be fixed by starting and stopping the bluetooth service
[02:59] <niru> magnetron, it was already empty
[03:00] <gypsymauro> hi
[03:00] <niru> magnetron, but even though it was empty it was having admin previliges
[03:00] <Gyro54> How can I fix a lockup on startup after a new video card install?
[03:00] <albert> could anybody /msg the the edgy commercial repos?
[03:00] <gypsymauro> there is a GUI to see partitions on disk and eventually mount them? there was in edgy but I didn't found it in feisty
[03:00] <magnetron> niru. then you have to manage the groups. it is in the same app, "users and groups"
[03:01] <weltall> hi, i've a s trange problem with totem as a firefox plugin. before with edgy somethimes it said open error fd0:// but now with feisty it just stays stalled with waiting for 192.168.1.11 on firefox statusbar and doesn't load the file (and doesn't even report errors)). if i open the file on the standalone totem it works fine
[03:01] <darren> who has got xp running on ubuntu ?
[03:01] <weltall> what's the problem?
[03:02] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  any ideas?
[03:03] <darren> xp in qemu  wont load up becuse it has a problem to see if its checking the license
[03:03] <Gyro54> albert, archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[03:03] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__  you might want to try the new ALSA driver 1.14RC, that might detect the driver. ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3.tar.bz2 You need to compile the driver(cd Desktop---> cd (extractedf ile name)--->./configure--->make--->sudo make install
[03:03] <darren> it gets to the login in for xp  and then stops
[03:03] <albert> Gyro54, thx
[03:03] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  shoulden't it auto update?
[03:03] <benofsky> is there a growl equivelant for ubuntu?
[03:03] <ZERO_SHIFT> http://www.alsa-project.org/
 no its a beta
[03:04] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  ok, one sec.  I'm trying to d-load it
 ok
[03:04] <magnetron> i have got this annoying problem: when i try to listen to a OGG Vorbis internet radiostation in any gstreamer app, i can hear the current song, but when the station switches to the next song, it's just mute... even if it is downloading. i has been like this since breezy
[03:05] <aimes_> !automatix
[03:05] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:05] <Telep> Any idea? I've got my fine subhinted fonts displayed in all gnome apps, but not Firefox. Is there a solution?
 any progress?
[03:07] <Bokeh> Telep: i believe you need to set the font in firefox as well
[03:07] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  yea, I keep having this problem where everything except the mouse freezes for a few minutes, then it continues along it's way
[03:07] <Bokeh> firefox isn't very compatible or friendly towards systemwide settings
[03:07] <Telep> Bokeh: is it hidden in some about:config-stuff?
[03:08] <benofsky> can amarok see shared itunes libraries?
[03:08] <olive> hello, please how many languages supported in Ubuntu ?
[03:08] <olive> grep -v -E ^# /usr/share/language-selector/data/languagelist | wc -l
[03:08] <olive> 60
 how new is your laptop, cause newer hardware is not supported yet
[03:08] <Bokeh> edit->preferences->content
[03:08] <darren> anyone ??
 when I bought my laptop I had the same problem
[03:09] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  not to mention that it's a Toshiba.
[03:09] <Telep> Bokeh: ok but the menu's are different too, surely that only affects web page content
 however the sound worked properly
[03:09] <magnetron> !patience
[03:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
 so did you compile the driver?
[03:09] <Bokeh> hmmm.
[03:09] <Bokeh> that's odd.
[03:09] <Bokeh> i don't have the problem here myself, do you use gnome/kde/xfce/somethingelse ?
[03:09] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  it's annoying most days though, and I'm still installing the sound stuff
[03:09] <niru> magnetron, I got it
[03:09] <AngryElf_> how can I change the frequency (Hz) of my monitor to 60?
[03:10] <niru> I changed the group of the user and it works fine
[03:10] <AngryElf_> .....change the output
[03:10] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ I know how you feel
[03:10] <magnetron> niru, great, did you use the "users and groups" tool?
[03:10] <niru> magnetron, yup
[03:10] <Telep> Bokeh: gnome
[03:10] <jeeves__> I just hope that I can get the Samsung printer to work accross the network this time
[03:10] <ian__> hello, when upgrading to feisty (and this also happened when i upgraded to edgy from dapper), i am unable to use the new kernel. it immediately panics on boot
[03:10] <Bokeh> strange
[03:10] <niru> magnetron, but which file does that
[03:10] <Bokeh> did you log out and back in again?
[03:11] <Telep> Bokeh: sure, many times
[03:11] <rajk> ian__: have you check that an initrd image has been created for the new kernel?
[03:11] <xorllu> Hi, why I have this error: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep "(EE)" => (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work ?
[03:11] <ian__> ill do that now
[03:11] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, you here?
[03:11] <Telep> and have since restarted too multiple times
[03:11] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken yup
[03:11] <jeeves__> zero_shift: any ideas on it randomly locking up?  or could it be my NVidia drivers?
[03:11] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, you have any idea how to fix my sound card?
[03:12] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ did you install the driver through the restricted manger?
[03:12] <ian__> rajk: you're correct, there is no initrd image for that kernel. how can i go about creating one?
[03:12] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken i thought you said it worked/
[03:12] <slanning> hi, when booting, the process always temporarily hangs when the progress bar is at 1/3 - it hangs for, I dunno, like a minute, regardless of whether I'm connected to the internet
[03:12] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken ?
[03:12] <jeeves__> zero_shift: yes, but it dosn't show the splash screen when it boots like the old laptop did
[03:12] <shaohui> hello, what package should I install for man pages of functions like fork?
[03:12] <allme> hello, is it possible to disable shutdown when someone presses the power button? thanks
[03:12] <AaronMT> Has anyone this problem, on resume from a long standby (sleep like overnight) wireless will not work after? This is in Feisty
[03:12] <crolle17> using vi this should search a string called "grant": /grant CR
[03:12] <Bokeh> hmmm
[03:12] <Bokeh> strange
[03:12] <Parmenion> allme: preferences
[03:12] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, nope, i installed gnome alsa mixer and reboot, nothing
[03:12] <Telep> Bokeh: indeed :)
[03:13] <crolle17> or is it no correctly?
[03:13] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ does it log on normally?
[03:13] <wimdows> darren - run VMWare Server
[03:13] <Bokeh> i didn't have any problems with it myself....
[03:13] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  yes
[03:13] <sivaji> my feisty cant handle dvd ple tell me the plugin to support dvd
[03:13] <rajk> ian__: get initrdtools or something. i think the command is mkinitrd -o /boot/someinitrdhere kernelversionhere. i am just testing out irc with my mates. it is pretty great
[03:13] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken did you unmute the sound card from there?
[03:13] <Parmenion> allme: power management preferences
[03:13] <Parmenion> allme: general tab
[03:13] <crolle17> is there a vi-man?
[03:13] <orbin> shaohui: manpages-dev
[03:13] <ian__> rajk: thanks and welcome to irc, lol
[03:13] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT,
[03:13] <Crav> sivaji: it's easiest just to install a player that has the dvd codecs prepacked. i suggest vlx, it's got just about everything
[03:13] <yellow_chicken> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:13] <yellow_chicken> aplay: main:550: audio open error: No such file or directory
[03:13] <shaohui> orbin: thanks
[03:14] <Bokeh> you might be able to find something on ubuntuforums.org or launchpad.ubuntu.net
[03:14] <Crav> sivaji: sorry, that's VLC
[03:14] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ maybe you should give Kubuntu a try
[03:14] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, tried to unmute, nothing. it was not mute to begin with.
[03:14] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken what pc?
[03:14] <shaohui> orbin: it works, thank you
[03:14] <AngryElf_> I need to set my monitor to 1680x1050 @ 60hz, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't giveme that option
[03:14] <AngryElf_> how can I do that?
[03:14] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, toshiba satellite
[03:14] <jeeves__> Zero_shift:  ok, we're installed, but no sound.  nothing is muted either
[03:15] <orbin> shaohui: yw
[03:15] <TuTuFF> on a fresh install, if I chose the standard option install the x server fails to start .. I can however get a display with the "start in safe graphics mode" ... the standard display doesnt like my ATI mobility radeon .. is there a way to install using this safe graphic mode please?
[03:15] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, lappy
[03:15] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ you have to reboot and then also check ALSA mixer
[03:15] <Bokeh> AngryElf: search for 915resolution
[03:15] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken how new is it?
[03:15] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  brb then
[03:15] <rajk> ian__: right mate i really have to go but i maqy be on later if you need a hand. ive had that probn before though and i am oprettyu sure the initrd dinmage thing wil fix it
[03:15] <AngryElf_> Bokeh: i have no computer to search on
[03:15] <wimdows> AngryElf_ - modify your xorg.conf manually and in the Display section under Modes, add "1680x1050"
[03:15] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ ok
[03:15] <Bokeh> doh
[03:15] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, 6 montsh
[03:16] <Bokeh> gimme 1 sec, i've got a few dells with widescreens
[03:16] <AngryElf_> wimdows: that doesn't set the frequency
[03:16] <bobbob1016> has anyone had success with Feisty and bcm43xx?  I've been trying for the past few days, and I get my wifi light on, and it sees my access point, but I can't connect.  I have WPA, and it worked on Edgy, any ideas?  I've used the script from ubuntuguide.org
[03:16] <ajha> Hi
[03:16] <ian__> rajk: thanks. if you arent on ill just ask someone else :)
[03:16] <AngryElf_> Bokeh: text-IRC here :( -- elinks only goes so far
[03:16] <Bokeh> hehe
[03:16] <Bokeh> ok, what you'll want to do is apt-get install 915resolution
[03:16] <wimdows> AngryElf_ what frequency we talking about here?
[03:16] <AngryElf_> Bokeh: it was working yesterday
[03:16] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken i beleive that it takes a while for new laptops to be supported, maybe you would want to give kubuntu a try
[03:17] <orbin> bobbob1016: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/85468
[03:17] <jiminy> bobbob1016: You got Broadcom wireless working with WPA on Edgy? How?
[03:17] <sikor_sxe> what could cause ubuntu to hang on gnome login (no window-manager loading and applets take ages to appear) after an update to feisty?
[03:17] <sivaji> Crav: vlc player is not found in adept database
[03:17] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, was working on 6.10
[03:17] <orbin> bobbob1016: compile the latest stable version of ndiswrapper
[03:17] <Bokeh> well, that's odd. did you upgrade anything yesterday AngryElf?
[03:17] <AngryElf_> nope, nada
[03:17] <Bokeh> weird
[03:17] <Matty> hi
[03:17] <sivaji> !how_to_add_repositories
[03:17] <ajha> Someone can indicate an URL with documentation about howto create a official mirror of Ubuntu
[03:17] <Bokeh> what's the error message when you try to start X
[03:17] <AngryElf_> no error
[03:17] <AngryElf_> X starts
[03:17] <bobbob1016> jiminy: I was asking how, not that I did
[03:18] <AngryElf_> just in the wrong res/frequency
[03:18] <Bokeh> hmmm
[03:18] <AngryElf_> so the monitor doesn't displau it
[03:18] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken try installing ALSA Driver 1.0.13 from their website www.alsa-project.org
[03:18] <bobbob1016> orbin: where do I get the source from?
[03:18] <AngryElf_> and says that it needs to be 1680x1050@60hz
[03:18] <orbin> ndiswrapper site
[03:18] <Crav> sivaji: did you try using synaptic, i know it's on there
[03:18] <Matty> i have a macbook pro and i just installed triple boot with ubuntu 7.04 and i want to install beryl but i when i want to enable the desktop effects it says: can not enable desktop effects
[03:18] <jiminy> bobbob1016: Drat. As you may have guessed, I'm in a similar boat, though I did eventually get it working on Edgy with WEP.
[03:18] <Bokeh> well, the only way i could get 1680x1050 was to use 915resolution
[03:18] <Bokeh> what video card do you have?
[03:18] <wimdows> presumably you're on an LCD - so the refresh rate is a moot point
[03:18] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, okie
[03:18] <AngryElf_> firegl :(
[03:18] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  next idea?
[03:18] <AngryElf_> makes things a pita
[03:19] <sivaji> Crav: i dont have that
[03:19] <Bokeh> :x
[03:19] <ZERO_SHIFT>  You need to compile the driver(cd Desktop---> cd (extractedf ile name)--->./configure--->make--->sudo make install
[03:19] <AngryElf_> well I installed it, run it?
[03:19] <sivaji> !pastebin
[03:19] <naja_> hi
[03:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:19] <Bokeh> 915resolution?
[03:19] <Bokeh> run 915resolution -l
[03:19] <Bokeh> see if it gives you your mode.
[03:19] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ Kubuntu live cd?
[03:19] <naja_> i have install TMU with wine
[03:19] <Crav> sivaji: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[03:19] <jeeves__> zero_shift:  don't have time for that.  anything else I can try?
[03:19] <AngryElf_> Bokeh: no, it flips out
[03:20] <sivaji> ple help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17398/
[03:20] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ sec
[03:20] <naja_> how can i lunch the luncher in opengl mode?
[03:20] <Bokeh> hmmm.
[03:20] <AngryElf_> doesn't support ati
[03:20] <orbin> jiminy: what card?
[03:20] <Bokeh> argh, ofc
[03:20] <Bokeh> nvm me, i'm stupid
[03:20] <gary> Is there a way to open a bash window and give it a exec command?  E.g. bash ls, so that it will open the bash window and ls when it is open?
[03:20] <Bokeh> that's only for intel cards
[03:20] <Telep> Bokeh: http://www.hopeapuu.net/screenshots/firefox_fonts.png the fonts look OK, just different
[03:20] <Bokeh> ok, lemme look up the web
[03:21] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ I am sorry but I am out of ideas you might find something similar at the forums
[03:21] <jiminy> orbin: Broadcom 4306, aka Apple AirPort Extreme.
[03:21] <Bokeh> Telep: looks like that's a non-standard firefox theme
[03:21] <gary> I'm using xterm btw
[03:21] <Bokeh> since your bars look different between ff and gaim as well.
[03:21] <jeeves__> zero_shit:  ok, thanks for your help
[03:21] <orbin> jiminy: tried ndiswrapper?
[03:21] <Matty> i have a macbook pro ANYONE help me please ?
[03:21] <Matty> i have a macbook pro and i just installed triple boot with ubuntu 7.04 and i want to install beryl but i when i want to enable the desktop effects it says: can not enable desktop effects
[03:21] <Telep> hmm
[03:22] <Bokeh> AngryElf
[03:22] <jiminy> orbin: Doesn't work on PowerPC, I'm afraid.
[03:22] <Bokeh> try inserting this in your Monitor section
[03:22] <Bokeh> Modeline	"1680x1050@75" 210.42 1680 1712 2504 2536 1050 1070 1083 1103
[03:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ no problem
[03:22] <orbin> jiminy: oh?  wasn't aware of that.
[03:22] <samy> hello, my tomcat user can't open sockets. What group should I add it to?
[03:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> jeeves__ you may want to use a USB headset for the time being
[03:22] <Bokeh> or run the following as root: aticonfig --effective=startup --resolution=1680x1050
[03:23] <Telep> Bokeh: well changing the theme to default makes no difference. I'm using the Tango Firefox theme
[03:23] <disasm> samy: I wrote a unix shell called samy once ;-)
[03:23] <chaquenboy> hello all people
[03:23] <Bokeh> odd.
[03:23] <jiminy> orbin: IIRC, anyway---it's been a while since I've messed with it. When I got WEP working, I decided not to push my luck. ;o)
[03:23] <sikor_sxe> is there a logfile, what could tell what is gnome troubling on login?
[03:23] <Bokeh> i'd recommend to search in launchpad telep
[03:23] <orbin> jiminy: so you've got wep working now?
[03:23] <Bokeh> you might be able to find more help there, i don't think i can help you any further :/
[03:23] <Telep> ok I'll look into it, thanks anyway :)
[03:24] <Bokeh> nps
[03:24] <samy> disasm: great! waht about tomcat?
[03:24] <yellow_chicken> ZERO_SHIFT, synaptic shows that i am using 1.0.13, but you think reinstall from .bz source will help?
[03:24] <jiminy> orbin: yep. Took me about half an hour to set up . . . after spending nearly four days on the forums before I found the instructions. ;o)
[03:24] <smileboot> ok quick question
[03:24] <vbanait>  what is the difference between version 6.04 that i have and recent version of ubuntu
[03:25] <smileboot> what the hell does   ^p   mean in a manual?
[03:25] <ian__> ...
[03:25] <disasm> samy: never used it, just saw the name go by, and thought I'd let you know you have the same name as a primitive UNIX shell :-P
[03:25] <bobbob1016> orbin: where do I get the ndiswrapper source code from?
[03:25] <ZERO_SHIFT> yellow_chicken then you might want to try the 1.0.14 RC3 driver
[03:25] <smileboot> ie what key combination does it mean?
[03:25] <PriceChild> smileboot, I "think" ctrl+p
[03:25] <smileboot> k
[03:25] <Crav> that's correct
[03:25] <Parmenion> bobbob1016: try sourceforge
[03:25] <ian__> smileboot: C^ = ctrl, K^ = alt
[03:25] <samy> disasm: great! you have the name of a disassembler program!
[03:26] <orbin> jiminy: ah, that's always the case. :D  i searched for 6 straight hours, re-read logs and re-tweaked configs before coming across my instructions.
[03:26] <vbanait> should i update the version that i have on my pc or reinstall 7.***
[03:26] <disasm> samy: yup
[03:26] <Adyeths> What do I need to do in order to make evolution print to letter size paper instead of a4 size paper?
[03:26] <Parmenion> crap guys
[03:26] <smileboot> k that didnt work
[03:26] <smileboot> bloody rtorrent
[03:26] <Parmenion> i need help, i cant hear any sound :\
[03:26] <Adyeths> in feisty
[03:26] <Crav> vbanait: update will let you keep your current stuff while a new install will be completely fresh
[03:26] <allme> Parmenion, thanks
[03:26] <orbin> bobbob1016: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[03:26] <Parmenion> which file do i need to poke in?
[03:27] <Parmenion> allme: :P its alright X
[03:27] <Parmenion> *XD
[03:27] <orbin> bobbob1016: install instructions here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[03:27] <disasm> samy: I'll let you get back to fixing your problem ;-)
[03:27] <jimle> what package do i need to install top use svn?
[03:27] <jimle> *to
[03:27] <vbanait> but the new version is same as the updated version or there is any advantage
[03:27] <orbin> bobbob1016: make sure you uninstall the windows driver and the ubuntu version of ndiswrapper before you compile it.
[03:27] <vbanait> i cannot play wmv file
[03:27] <dano_washere> Hi again, i have no idea of how to recover ubuntu.
[03:28] <Parmenion> vbanait: windows media something
[03:28] <Crav> vbanait: you can either get the codec or get a player which has it built in
[03:28] <vbanait> yes
[03:28] <samy> disasm: thx. maybe u know how to give a user the right to open sockets?
[03:28] <hatter> any problems with feisty fawn using older kernels ?
[03:28] <sivaji> what is clipboard
[03:28] <Parmenion> get the restricted codecs vbanait
[03:28] <vbanait> which player
[03:28] <bobbob1016> orbin: apt-get remove ndis?
[03:28] <|thunder> sivaji; wow
[03:28] <Parmenion> gstreamer ?
[03:28] <vbanait> where from and how
[03:28] <orbin> jimle: subversion IIRC
[03:28] <Parmenion> or whatever you choose
[03:28] <Parmenion> synaptic
[03:28] <dano_washere> The kernel isnt doing something right with the filesystem
[03:28] <orbin> bobbob1016: one sec.  checking ubguide
[03:28] <Crav> vbanait: i reccommend VLC, it's got just about everything
[03:28] <disasm> samy: if you're referring to priveleged sockets, you can't, they have to be open by root
[03:29] <Stig> Hi, how do I configure and use "hellanzb"? I have downloaded and installed it using the Synaptic package manager, what do I do now?!
[03:29] <samy> disasm: no standard ones on the same host
[03:29] <jimle> orbin, lol so simple, but i couldnt find it >,< thanks
[03:29] <wimdows> jimle - sudo apt-get install subversion-tools
[03:29] <jimle> cheers
[03:29] <disasm> samy: errr wait, sockets, not ports ;-)
[03:30] <sivaji> !clipboard
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clipboard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <samy> disasm: ok so what about the sockets?
[03:30] <Adyeths> What do I need to do in order to make evolution print to letter size paper instead of a4 size paper in feisty?
[03:30] <n3ob> in beryl how do you zoom out the cube when rotating?
[03:30] <|thunder> sivaji; clipborad is a place to temoparaly store things. select some text. copy and paste somewhere else. it was stored in the clipboard.
[03:30] <disasm> samy: are you getting a specific error when you try? I thought any user could open a socket
[03:31] <disasm> samy: to my knowledge, from the users point of view, a socket is just a file
[03:31] <jiminy> I'm trying to get an external DVD burner, hooked up through a USB enclosure, to work. I've run lsusb and it seems to be detecting the enclosure the burner is in but not the actual burner. I'm running 6.10 PPC, the drive is a Pioneer DVR-110D. (The really annoying bit is that I found a post in the forums from someone with the same burner, saying it worked out of the box . . . )
[03:31] <samy> disasm: I get an error when I call a servlet opening a connection to mysql, so I suggest it's a problem with the user...
[03:31] <Parmenion> guys, how the hell do i get my sound to work ?
[03:31] <orbin> bobbob1016: bah, i can't be bothered going through the script.  i'm assuming it does the basic steps.  does 'ndiswrapper -l'show a driver installed?
[03:32] <tolonuga> hi. does anyone have a fresh (k)ubuntu installation? can you type "mount" and tell me if /proc/bus/usb is mounted on your system or not?
[03:32] <Parmenion> yes orbin
[03:32] <bobbob1016> orbin: yes
[03:32] <Acidz0r> Hi, anyones knows when is fiesty for ppc gonna be available?
[03:32] <disasm> samy: hmmm... and mysql is configured to allow that user to connect?
[03:32] <orbin> bobbob1016: sudo ndiswrapper -e <drivername>
[03:32] <doomster> hello world
[03:32] <orbin> bobbob1016: that will uninstall the driver
[03:33] <eggstain> tolonuga, yes
[03:33] <Parmenion> guys, what file do i need to poke in to get my sound to work ?
[03:33] <samy> disasm: sure, I con log throught phpmyadmin
[03:33] <Parmenion> err orbin its ndiswrapper -r
[03:33] <samy> tolonuga: procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[03:33] <disasm> hmmm...
[03:34] <smileboot> ok comlete nub question where the hell are programs installed as default   usually
[03:34] <jiminy> Acidz0r: I thought it already was---if you've already got edgy, try going to the update manager and seeing if there's a note about it there. Don't try installing it from there, though, the official servers are way too busy. Use a Torrent if you can.
[03:34] <Crav> smileboot: /usr/bin
[03:34] <bobbob1016> orbin: I did -e, now when I do ndis -l, nothing shows up, so should I apt-get remove ndis, then recompile?
[03:34] <smileboot> k thanx
[03:34] <wimdows> Parmenion - there's a decent guide on Ubuntuforums - see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:34] <sikor_sxe> what could cause ubuntu to hang on gnome login (no window-manager loading and applets take ages to appear) after an update to feisty?
[03:34] <disasm> does tomcat have a log file? maybe get a little more detail about what the problem i
[03:34] <disasm> err is
[03:35] <orbin> bobbob1016: should probably unload the module first: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[03:35] <samy> it says it's a socket permission issue...
[03:35] <Parmenion> thanks winkiller
[03:35] <Parmenion> pmg
[03:35] <Parmenion> wrong person
[03:35] <Parmenion> wimdows: thanks :P
[03:35] <wimdows> ;-) np
[03:35] <orbin> bobbob1016: then yes, remove ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[03:35] <tolonuga> thanks
[03:36] <Acidz0r> jiminy, I've check almost all US mirrors and the iso is still missing, I don't have Edgy to check from there and I haven't find a torrent of fiesty-ppc.
[03:36] <bobbob1016> orbin: just utils, or everything ndis?
[03:36] <bobbob1016> orbin: I also have ndis-common
[03:36] <orbin> bobbob1016: ndiswrapper-common too.
[03:37] <vbanait> any out of box product for medical clinics
[03:37] <|thunder> how do I enable dvd playback in fiesty/gnome/movie player
[03:37] <Bokeh> i doubt there are any vbanait
[03:37] <ian__> orbin, you seem knowlegable in ndiswrapper stuff. is there something im doing wrong here? i installed some wireless usb adapter's windows driver through ndiswrapper and then plugged in the usb device. yeah it made my kernel explode. any ideas?
[03:37] <|thunder> !dvd
[03:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:38] <Bokeh> i'd recommend asking software development companies to see if they can make you a custom-built application.
[03:38] <vbanait> is it? nothing for the doctors
[03:38] <Bokeh> or search around sourgeforge, though i highly doubt you'd find something so specialized there.
[03:38] <vbanait> i thought there should be medubuntu
[03:38] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Crap. I am running Edgy PPC, and I did see a note like that, but I haven't tried upgrading. Maybe try searching the Apple PPC Users forum?
[03:39] <Bokeh> well, your problem is, it's a a very specialized niche without any hobbyist base who run it, so there won't be many opensource developers working on that.
[03:39] <bobbob1016> orbin: I need to install headers before I can compile, right?
[03:39] <gordonjcp> vbanait: what kind of thing do you need?
[03:39] <orbin> ian__: not really knowledgable ... just recently got my broadcom working after a bit of reading.  i can't troubleshoot anything much outside of that scope.
[03:39] <Bokeh> On top of that, most of the companies who run such software have it outsourced, so there's very little incentive to make such a piece of software
[03:39] <orbin> bobbob1016: yes, follow the install instructions
[03:39] <Acidz0r> jiminy, Oh, lemme check then. You running it on a laptop?
[03:40] <jiminy> Acidz0r: PowerBook G4.
[03:40] <ajha> Someone can indicate an URL with documentation about howto create a official mirror of Ubuntu
[03:40] <vbanait> something to manage my clinic record and export the reports of individual patient in manner i decide
[03:40] <ajha> Hi
[03:40] <orbin> ian__: sorry.  not sure what would be going on.  what do you mean by kernel exploding? :)  did you check dmesg output?
[03:40] <ajha> Someone can indicate an URL with documentation about howto create a official mirror of Ubuntu
[03:40] <ian__> orbin: ah. well as soon as i plug in the device the syslog sends tons of messages to all my terminals and then the kernel locks up
[03:40] <thebillywayne> in gnome, the theme manager tells me the theme is installed, but I don't see it listed.  telling the themer to switch to the new theme doesn't affect anything either.  Is the theme manager possibly broken?
[03:40] <bobbob1016> orbin: my bad, I skipped right to "install"
[03:40] <Parmenion> thanks wimdows, seems my soundcard was muted :P
[03:40] <Acidz0r> jiminy, any troubles getting airport to work with Ubuntu? cuz I have an iBook and the LiveCD doesn't detect the airport card.
[03:40] <wimdows> Parmenion - cool - simple solution in the end then ;-)
[03:40] <Parmenion> yep XD
[03:41] <orbin> bobbob1016: actually, i'm not sure, but i think headers may be installed by default
[03:41] <dano_washere> can i get the UUID from BusyBox?
[03:41] <Parmenion> thanks for the link would come in handy when i wipe my mother's system to install ubuntu
[03:41] <ajha> I am employed on a University of Venezuela and this this university interested in create a official mirror ubuntu
[03:41] <orbin> bobbob1016: my guess is it'd prompt you to install them anyway, so no harm done i'm guessing
[03:41] <bobbob1016> orbin: yeah, I need build-essential, installing that now
[03:42] <ian__> ajha: you're employed at a university and your english is that bad? jeez and they pay you to -work-?
[03:42] <Adyeths> What do I need to do in order to make evolution print to letter size paper instead of a4 size paper in feisty?
[03:42] <thebillywayne> i'm installing metacity themes from gnome-look, but they don't seem to be installing properly.
[03:42] <zaggynl> ian__, be nice
[03:42] <orbin> ian__: tried #ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Hoo boy . . . getting AirPort working is NOT fun, but it can be done---not from a LiveCD, though. You'll have to install Ubuntu first.
[03:42] <vbanait> i think mandriva is having a product for doctor
[03:42] <Pelo> sigh
[03:42] <vbanait> is it true
[03:42] <Bokeh> vbanait: what's it called?
[03:42] <natsumey> ajha, : apt-mirror or debmirror
[03:43] <thebillywayne> Adyeths, System > Administration > Printing.
[03:43] <Acidz0r> jiminy, Meh, sounds like.. fun, hehe.
[03:43] <yellow_chicken> anyone's sound card works in feisty?
[03:43] <Bokeh> there's ofcourse always to possibility to build a package yourself or have it built by someone else
[03:43] <Adyeths> already did that. it didn't work.
[03:43] <wimdows> ian__ - not everyone's first language is English...
[03:43] <Bokeh> and if mandriva has it, you'd only need to make it compatible with ubuntu
[03:43] <Parmenion> yellow chicken:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:43] <ian__> wimdows: i was joking sheesh
[03:43] <Crav> wimdows: it should be
[03:43] <vbanait> Debian med
[03:43] <obnibolongo> hi! i download ubuntu 7.04, checksum is right, burn 2 CDs and both CDs present errors. There is the possibility my burner is broken, since it refuses to read home burned DVDs, but so far it has worked right with CDs. I'm just checking here if there in any known issue with the image and, if not, I'll burn in other cd burner. Has anyone else had trouble with Ubuntu 7.04, checksum e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a *ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[03:43] <yellow_chicken> i went through forums, seems like many have sound problem
[03:43] <wimdows> ian__ - without a smiley it was hard to tell ;-)
[03:43] <claviola> hi, totem won't play DVDs for me. I just get a "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it." error. I have absolutely every gstreamer0.10* package under the sun installed and the relevant DVD libraries. The DVD will play if auto-inserted, but not through the menu. I can also just play the VOBs individually. Any tips?
[03:43] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Hang on, I'll dig up the how-to I used. I recommend installing Edgy, because I can't promise it'll work on Feisty.
[03:44] <Adyeths> I have it set to letter size everywhere I could find... in the printer settings, in /etc/papersize, but it seems to always want to print to a4.
[03:44] <Crav> !dvd
[03:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:44] <Adyeths> no matter what I do I cant make it change to a different size paper setting.
[03:44] <Crav> claviola: there ya go
[03:44] <claviola> Crav: as I said, I already have the relevant packages.
[03:44] <thebillywayne> claviola, same thing happened to me.  i installed vlc and it all works great.
[03:44] <orbin> claviola: player?  totem-xine + libdvdcss2 works for me.
[03:44] <claviola> !thanks for the useless reply though
[03:44] <Adyeths> and yes I've restarted cups after changing the settings in /etc/papersize
[03:45] <Crav> claviola: no need to be agressive we're all just trying to help
[03:45] <AaronMT> Anyone have a problem with wifi not working after resume from standby?
[03:45] <Acidz0r> jiminy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411442 , they moved the mirrors of fiesty, no wonder.
[03:45] <bloggi> How comes that I'm still unable to install "beryl-plugins-unsupported_0.2.0~0beryl_i386.deb" I get the "trying to overwrite ~/usr/lib/beryl/libtext.so error :/
[03:45] <Adyeths> so... whats the secret to changing the default paper size?
[03:45] <bloggi> should i just remove that file and re-download?
[03:45] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Oh, and if you're booting from the LiveCD now, can you pull up a terminal, type in "lspci" without the quotes, and tell me if there are any lines with the words "Network Controller" in them, and if so, what do they say, exactly?
[03:45] <claviola> Crav: try reading stuff instead of scanning for keywords and having infobot spew out howtos
[03:45] <claviola> Crav: but I do appreciate your helpfulness
[03:45] <Acidz0r> jiminy, lemme check then, gimme a sec.
[03:45] <KromiX> any1 have experience with using Ventrilo successfully on Ubuntu
[03:45] <Nubbie> claviola: obviously you don't.
[03:46] <KromiX> ?? What windows emulator would be best for Ventrilo? free or not..
[03:46] <Nubbie> claviola: otherwise you wouldn't be so rude.
[03:46] <claviola> !sorry nubbie
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry nubbie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Pelo> KromiX,  try using wine
[03:47] <Nubbie> pelo: can wine use microphone input?
[03:47] <Pelo> Nubbie,  you'd have to ask in #winehq
[03:47] <KromiX> yea trying to deicde which one to use wine cedega etc...
[03:47] <Nubbie> pelo: ventrilo is like a gaming voice server type deal.
[03:48] <Pelo> Nubbie,  still worth asking in #winehq
[03:48] <Nubbie> pelo: heheh i'm not concerned.
[03:48] <Nubbie> kromix: there is a program sort of like you're looking for that does work with linux.
[03:49] <KromiX> TeamSpeak?
[03:49] <Pelo> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:49] <Nubbie> yeah
[03:49] <KromiX> ya i know but
[03:49] <Trentster> hey all, I want to mount an nfs share on a nas device, how can i do this as a normal user, as the user root does not have a login on the nas device and the system tells me only root can use the mount command any dieas?
[03:49] <KromiX> i need Vent because im trying to get on Vent servers :)
[03:49] <Adyeths> What do I need to do in order to make evolution print to letter size paper instead of a4 size paper in feisty?
[03:49] <Nubbie> trentster: you must have administrative privileges to mount ndrives.
[03:50] <vbanait> can i install he med-practice metapackage on ubuntu
[03:50] <Trentster> Nubbie, any way i can get the nfs command to mount the share using a specific users credentials?
[03:50] <Adyeths> Its sad that its turning into a major ordeal just to change the default paper size when printing from Evolution.
[03:50] <mikebro> KromiX: check out this thead, it may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[03:50] <bloggi> my "beryl-plugins-unsupported-data" is now shown in the "broken dependencies" folder, what may I do to change that?
[03:50] <claviola> man, I really hate totem.
[03:50] <Nubbie> trentster: if your user has the privilege to mount, you can do it as a user. you don't >have< to be root.
[03:50] <vbanait> how can i install the med-practice metapackage from debian
[03:51] <Nubbie> trentster: but then you'd have to mount it in your home directory.
[03:51] <bobbob1016_> orbin: thanks, it's working now, after a reboot
[03:51] <Trentster> Nubbie, i am trying to mount it in my home directory
[03:51] <winkiller> hm, booted from feisty cd - selected "start or install" and in the gui ALL characters are little boxes. cdr damaged I suppose..
[03:51] <KromiX> Thanks Mike
[03:51] <wimdows> any tool that can tell me the details of my individual memory dimms?
[03:51] <bobbob1016_> orbin: I pulled the inf file from the tar file in the ubuntu guide
[03:52] <Trentster> Nubbie, how do i Give a user the privelidge to mount?
[03:52] <orbin> bobbob1016: awesome. :)
[03:53] <Nubbie> trentster: sorry i think i'm mistaken. a user can have the privilege to mount external devices, such as a USB hard drive or something, but i'm not sure if that extends to NFS drives.
[03:53] <Pelo> brb
[03:53] <vbanait> Is there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:53] <jessid> !usbtoserial
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbtoserial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Trentster> Nubbie, in other words I am going to have to mount it as root
[03:53] <A[D] minS> !cdrecord
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Nubbie> !serial > jessid
[03:53] <A[D] minS> how i can burn iso file to cd?
[03:53] <ajha> iam__ sorry
[03:54] <Ginja_Ninja> i have installed the "spca5xx" package freom adept, how do i go about using this driver for my webcam. At the moment when i plug my camera in it load gspca_core, is this right ?
[03:54] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:54] <Nubbie> trentster: i believe so
[03:54] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:54] <jessid> Nubbie: thanks a lot!!!
[03:54] <sjoeboo>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[03:54] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:54] <Nubbie> a[d] mins: use right click it, burn to cd.
[03:54] <naja_> who could help me with wine?
[03:54] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:54] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:54] <sjoeboo> my bad with that
[03:54] <foxiness> hi,is the logout act like ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:54] <Nubbie> !patience | vbanait
[03:54] <ubotu> vbanait: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:54] <Damian> !pl
[03:54] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:54] <ajha> natsumey, Thank you
[03:55] <jessid> !patience
[03:55] <natsumey> np
[03:55] <vbanait> sorry! please help
[03:55] <naja_> i have installed TMU with wine
[03:55] <Nubbie> foxiness: no that restarts the gdm, it doesn't actually log you out.
[03:55] <naja_> it's done
[03:55] <natsumey> and let me know ur mirror after this
[03:55] <natsumey> hahaha
[03:55] <ian__> !help
[03:55] <ian__> lolol
[03:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:55] <claviola> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/41335 has more people with the same problem with me for months now
[03:55] <naja_> i want to luch it to make update before the nocd
[03:55] <orbin> bobbob1016: random question. is your SSID hidden?
[03:56] <maly> siema
[03:56] <maly> hello
[03:56] <jonesy> ok, anyone have a link to the 'beryl on feisty' doc? I can't find it.
[03:56] <maly> www.freyrtuyuytu.pl
[03:56] <Nubbie> jonesy: check their wiki.
[03:56] <Adyeths> What do I need to do in order to make evolution print to letter size paper instead of a4 size paper in feisty?
[03:57] <Nubbie> adyeths: its in the printer dialogue
[03:57] <Acidz0r> jiminy, it's either a Broadcom 4318 (rev 02) or the UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM) (rev 80).
[03:57] <omkar86> hi Which notebooks are recommended to use with Ubuntu?
[03:57] <foxiness> Nubbie: k, and if i want to clean my mem from garbeg lib or application 'more on gui one' what is the best to do it?
[03:57] <Adyeths> I changed it in the printer dialog. evolution still prints to the wrong paper size though.
[03:57] <jrib> !laptop > omkar86 (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:57] <vbanait> s there anything like debian med for medical practice on ubuntu
[03:57] <wimdows> xtnight6 - ok then ;-) any cmd line tool that can tell me details about my memory dimms?
[03:57] <omkar86> ok
[03:58] <jrib> omkar86: you can see what has worked for others on those pages
[03:58] <wimdows> xtknigh6 rather ;-)
[03:58] <Nubbie> foxiness: i don't understand, what are you trying to do?
[03:58] <xtknight6> wimdows yes.  sudo lshw or hwinfo
[03:58] <foxiness> vbanait: ubuntu == debian you can use it on ubuntu
[03:58] <wimdows> cool - thanks xtknight6 (got it right 3rd time)
[03:58] <xtknight6> wimdows lol :P
[03:58] <vbanait> Foxiness: how
[03:58] <Nubbie> adyeths: right click your printer, properties, paper, choose your new paper.
[03:58] <dyrne> omkar86: stay away from ati
[03:58] <xtknight6> wimdows need i make my name more complicated?
[03:58] <jrib> omkar86: your biggest concern would probably be the wireless
[03:59] <Adyeths> I did that already. Its set correctly there. But evolution STILL prints to the wrong paper size.
[03:59] <rellik_> why is there not a torrent link on the ubuntu download page?
[03:59] <wimdows> xtknight6 - you also use xtknight as a nick?
[03:59] <xtknight6> wimdows indeed.  my home nick is at home with nickserv
[03:59] <jrib> rellik_: do you want a link or do you want to request taht one be added?
[03:59] <Nubbie> adyeths: restart the program you're printing from? thats all i can suggest.
[03:59] <thebillywayne> any sites besides gnome-look?  the metacity theme tar.gz's don't seem to want to install for me.
[03:59] <Adyeths> I did that several times already too. still not printing to the correct paper size.
[03:59] <wimdows> xtknight6 - I see, we chatted before I think.
[03:59] <xtknight6> very likely ;)
[04:00] <wimdows> ;)
[04:00] <ajha> iam__ The university does not pay me for my knowledges in English or for writing perfectly in English
[04:00] <xtknight6> hwinfo show you that dimm stuff?
[04:00] <omkar86> dyrne: can I use beryl with intel onboard graphics?
[04:00] <Nubbie> thebillywayne: install art-manager
[04:00] <rellik_> jrib, both..  I want to download it..  but I also think that the site would promote the torrent..  people will have faster downoads, and, more importantly, it will take completely unneeded stress off the servers
[04:00] <Dazzaz> Good morning everyone... Ubuntu noob here.  Just did a fresh install of 7.04 and everything went fine.  Haven't tried to install the Nvidia driver yet...
[04:00] <jrib> !torrents > rellik_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:00] <Nubbie> omkar86: yes, please read their wiki.
[04:00] <foxiness> Nubbie: after i run multiappication there are a lot on swap-mem on sleep mode or what ever i want to get this end and remove it from my mem space to give me more stable ,fast system 'on system still run over a week or so'
[04:00] <dyrne> omkar86: i belive so but ive not done the 3d desktop yet
[04:01] <rellik_> jrib, thanks
[04:01] <cg`> hi there, would an error on boot (either from hda or livecd) that says "crc error --system halted", indicate memory failure?
[04:01] <omkar86> dyrne: ok, heard AMD produces more heat than intel is it true?
[04:01] <thebillywayne> !info art-manager feisty
[04:01] <ubotu> Package art-manager does not exist in feisty
[04:01] <Nubbie> foxiness: linux will fill up the swap and memory, it doesn't actively keep it clear. when something new needs memory, it will flush out the old stuff.
[04:01] <jrib> rellik_: it is linked there if you click on "other options" (or something like that) but you can file a bug on launchpad.net against the ubuntu website product too if you want
[04:01] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Okay, it's probably the Broadcom. Try following the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319402 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2177737&postcount=9
[04:01] <foxiness> vbanait: url of this application ?
[04:01] <Dazzaz> !nvidia
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <thebillywayne> Nubbie: thanks for your help.
[04:02] <Code_Geek> hi
[04:02] <Nubbie> thebillywayne: no problem.
[04:02] <xtknight6> wimdows also check out "sudo dmidecode" it may have more detailed info
[04:02] <rellik_> jrib, the "other download options" link has torrents for 6.06 and 6.10, but not fiesty..  I'll file a bug, thanks
[04:02] <Code_Geek> hello
[04:02] <doomster> hello ppl:)
[04:02] <wimdows> xtknight6 - lshw did the job - cheers (couldn't be arsed to open up my PC case!)
[04:03] <jiminy> Acidz0r: Oh yes---good luck . . .
[04:03] <jrib> rellik_: yeah, I don't claim it's easy to find, I don't like it either.  If you choose a mirror though, then you will find torrent links for feisty
[04:03] <asselberghs> can one download the newest ubuntu version and ubgrade without the need to burn a new cd?
[04:03] <Parmenion> gentlemen, what is a compositing manager?
[04:03] <rellik_> jrib, hmm..  I initially tried that..  the mirror I choose did not have a torrent, only an iso
[04:03] <asselberghs> upgrade*
[04:03] <Nubbie> !upgrade > asselberghs
[04:04] <Parmenion> asselbergh - you can upgrade via synaptic
[04:04] <foxiness> asselberghs: yes
[04:04] <thebillywayne> Nubbie: I think theme manager is simply broken.  new themes aren't being installed properly.
[04:04] <foxiness> asselberghs: by mount it
[04:04] <Nubbie> thebillywayne: you can just extract the contents of the .tar.gz files into ~/.themes
[04:05] <asselberghs> i want access to beryl but iam having truble with my nvidia geforce 4 MX 440 card though it is supported i cant find a driver thats works il try if the ubuntu with beryl intigrated will work
[04:05] <thebillywayne> Nubbie, i'll try that.
[04:05] <Acidz0r> jiminy, hehe, thanks. Forgot to ask you, yours came with ATi? >_<; Cuz I already know that getting ATi cards to work is a pain, hehe.
[04:05] <cg`> can anyone suggest anything to try regarding the error on boot "crc error --system halted" please? :)
[04:05] <foxiness> Nubbie: thanks for the great info you throw to me
[04:06] <Nubbie> foxiness: :D
[04:06] <Parmenion> gentlemen, what is a compositing manager?
[04:06] <jiminy> Acidz0r: nVidia, though I haven't tried anything fancy with it. Both have problems, from what I hear.
[04:06] <Nubbie> parmenion: beryl or compiz
[04:06] <Parmenion> Nubbie: which one should i use?
[04:06] <rellik_> jrib, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/102974
[04:06] <Acidz0r> jiminy, Oh, okay. O_o;
[04:07] <jiminy> Parmenion: Fancy software for drawing windows on your screen. Allows for lots of cool graphic effects at the expense of speed.
[04:07] <Nubbie> parmenion: i've had good luck with beryl, but feisty comes with compiz. plus it depends on your system.
[04:07] <jrib> rellik_: thanks
[04:07] <PhilK> Parmenion: I've had much better luck with Beryl, plus it seems more advanced
[04:07] <anticlockwise> Parmenion: If you got an ATI, use Beryl
[04:07] <thebillywayne> Nubbie, for some reason, it's still not showing up in the "Theme Preferences" window.
[04:07] <Nubbie> yes definitely.
[04:07] <Nubbie> thebillywayne: thats very strange.
[04:07] <foxiness> Parmenion: beryl "ya vote"
[04:07] <Parmenion> ok thanks Nubbie, jiminy, PhilK and anticlockwise
[04:08] <Parmenion> sadly no ATI
[04:08] <Parmenion> its all standard intel on my laptop
[04:08] <wimdows> jiminy - and at the expense of direct 3D rendering
[04:08] <Nubbie> sadly? hardly.
[04:08] <thebillywayne> Nubbie, yeah.  i know.  it's killing me.
[04:08] <anticlockwise> Parmenion, well, use Beryl anyway, it's more advanced, hehe
[04:08] <PhilK> Parmenion: depending on the Intel beryl will work
[04:08] <Parmenion> nor nvida Nubbie :P
[04:08] <jiminy> Anyway, now's the time for me to turn in. Good night, all.
[04:08] <me_> hello everyone
[04:08] <moment> #beef
[04:08] <Parmenion> PhilK, thanks
[04:09] <thebillywayne> Nubbie, isn't there a text file that I can edit that'll allow me to point my theme to the folder in .themes.  Do I *have* to use the GUI?
[04:09] <PhilK> Parmenion: I'm using Beryl on a q965 board at work...it was a b*tch to set up, but it works well
[04:09] <Dazzaz> what is best for nvidia drivers?  via unrestricted or one of the other install methods?
[04:09] <Parmenion> anticlockwise: will it cause system meltdown?
[04:09] <me_> any can tell how i get a ubuntu server edition?
[04:09] <aro> Dazzaz, which nvidia card do you have?
[04:09] <Parmenion> PhilK: any howto to setup beryl?
[04:09] <anticlockwise> Parmenion, well, I'm not sure for Intel, but i might :)
[04:09] <Nubbie> thebillywayne: i'm sure there is, the thing is i've never had a problem with the frontend, i've never been bothered to learn about it. sorry, i don't know whats up with your themes issue.
[04:10] <aro> Dazzaz, I found the best luck with the proprietary nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com on my 7600gt
[04:10] <foxiness> !server > me_
[04:10] <Dazzaz> aro, 7800GT
[04:10] <thebillywayne> Nubbie, thanks for your help though.  :)
[04:10] <Nubbie> at least intel releases their driver's sources don't they?
[04:10] <anticlockwise> Parmenion, it might cause you not being able to enter X
[04:10] <vbanait> how to update application menu
[04:10] <PhilK> Parmenion: there's a few different ones for Intel, they apparently work fine except on the 965 boards, if you've got an older one you should be alright
[04:10] <Parmenion> thats not too bad anticlockwise
[04:10] <PhilK> Parmenion: check the forums, a quick search should find 'em
[04:10] <foxiness> vbanait: killall gnome-panel
[04:11] <Dazzaz> yeah, last i tried this I was not able to get back into X and being a noob I just gave up.... just installed ubuntu 7.04 again fresh install and trying again.
[04:11] <Parmenion> PhilK, im on a laptop ... some normal intel motherboard. XD im already searching on it :P
[04:11] <Nubbie> dazzaz: you could do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <PhilK> Nubbie: they've started to...but from what I can find no one cares, the docs are limited and there's almost no development being done (or so it appears)  I can't even get their official stuff to compile (note, this could be my fault, but it's not easy at any rate)
[04:12] <aro> Dazzaz, you downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run ?
[04:12] <Dazzaz> Nubbie, I tried, but really didn't understand a single thing I was doing and was only able to get the default vesa driver working.
[04:12] <aro> Dazzaz, the x86 would change depending on your architecture I guess, but in my case it was x86
[04:12] <Dazzaz> Aro, I haven't downloaded anything yet... just finished install
[04:12] <aro> Dazazz, I meant when you first tried to install the drivers
[04:12] <Nubbie> dazzaz: at least with vesa you can log in again to fix your mistake ;)
[04:12] <aro> Dazazz, when yous aid it wouldn't boot X
[04:12] <Dazzaz> aro, i'm running 64bit
[04:12] <foxiness> is there a way to refreash the desktop ? "i treid to open it like a folder then reload"
[04:12] <tokyoahead> hi all... I have an intel graphics chip in my laptop, 1280x800 screen, the 915resolution is showing the resolution and the xorg.conf also since install, but the screen resolution prefs show _only_ 1024x768.... any idea what I can do?
[04:13] <Nubbie> philk: i'm lucky. my radeon 9550 was one of the last cards to function well.
[04:13] <vbanait> how to update application menu with newly installed application name
[04:13] <Nubbie> philk: but if i ever buy another video card, it will definitely be an nvidia card.
[04:13] <aro> Dazazz, and you downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run last time you tried?
[04:13] <aro> (That's the 64bit version)
[04:13] <tholme> Hey, I installed Anjuta, and tried to build a program I already had. It seems to have worked, but what am I to do with the 'progam.o' file? :P Anyone have any tips?
[04:13] <Dazzaz> no, i didn't... i tried to use Envy last time.
[04:13] <Nubbie> vbanait: did you killall gnome-panel?
[04:14] <PhilK> Nubbie: sad but true, my newer ATi's are super flaky, the Nvidia cards "just work" :\
[04:14] <foxiness> vbanait: you did not get what i told you !
[04:14] <aro> Dazzaz, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-9755.html
[04:14] <aro> That's what I use on my 7600gt
[04:14] <aro> Works great
[04:14] <cg`> Can anyone suggest anything to try regarding the error on boot "crc error --system halted" please? Cheers :)
[04:14] <Parmenion> lol PhilK, im already using "Desktop Effects" :P
[04:15] <Dazzaz> aro, downloading that right now... just need to figure out how to install.
[04:15] <wimdows> xtknight6 - is there any way I can 'preserve' an ubuntu install on one partition and completely move it to a diff physical disk?
[04:15] <me_> is there anyone who can tell me how can i use the 3D desktop effect?
[04:15] <heelop> wimdows you may try cloning your part...
[04:15] <PhilK> Parmenion: well...good to know it's only the new boards that are fubar
[04:15] <aro> Dazzaz, all you have to do is logout, press ctrl+f1 to go to a non graphical command line, navigate to the folder with the driver and type "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.--9755-pkg2.run"
[04:16] <wimdows> heelop - is there a clone tool?
[04:16] <aro> Dazzaz, it will guide you through all of it, you might have to sudo apt-get install some gcc or g++ packages to compile the drivers, if you need help with that I can guide you
[04:16] <Nubbie> cg`: i think its a memory issue.
[04:16] <PhilK> Parmenion: it's also a Dell, so that's always a possibility for problems...
[04:16] <tokyoahead> hi all... I have an intel graphics chip in my laptop, 1280x800 screen, the 915resolution -l is showing the resolution and the xorg.conf also since install, but the screen resolution prefs show _only_ 1024x768.... any idea what I can do?
[04:16] <Parmenion> PhilK, it seems its built into Feisty by default
[04:16] <heelop> wimdows there are many of them ex: dd
[04:16] <Parmenion> i didnt have to go configure it
[04:16] <foxiness> me_: ctrl+alt + left mouse <>
[04:16] <Nubbie> wimdows: use gnome-baker
[04:16] <cg`> Nubbie: thanks, I had a feeling it may be. It does the same via liveCD / hd boot
[04:16] <aro> Dazzaz, when and if you finish the entire install, type sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" in order to restart gnome and accept the new drivers
[04:16] <vbanait> foxiness: please repeat! i am new at linux
[04:17] <heelop> wimdows: but im not sure that they will work with no problems
[04:17] <foxiness> vbanait: killall gnome-panel
[04:17] <PhilK> Parmenion: they have done an amazing job on feisty
[04:17] <Nubbie> cg`: i have no idea what it is or how to fix it though ;)
[04:17] <Nubbie> cg`: sorry.
[04:17] <Parmenion> PhilK: i got wireless broadcom card with my laptop. annoying to get it to work
[04:17] <Parmenion> yeah PhilK, its much more polished
[04:17] <cg`> Nubbie: hehe, np .. i'll borrow some RAM and try it out. Memtest may also be worth a shot i've been told
[04:18] <Nubbie> cg`: yes i'd try that first, memtest
[04:18] <foxiness> vbanait: press alt+f2 then put this command on it "killall gnome-panel"
[04:18] <PhilK> Parmenion: I stopped using Edgy because of a Broadcom on my old lappy :\
[04:18] <Dazzaz> Aro, Thanks for the info.  I printed out your info and will give that a try now.
[04:18] <Parmenion> PhilK: I found this pretty amazing howto detailing exactly what to do from dapper to feisty, basically compile your own ndiswrapper :P
[04:19] <aro> If X doesn't start try using vesa drivers to come back in here and ask for help
[04:19] <mattycoze> ay everyone, i've got a problem with my system fonts for toolbars menus ect... it's just a load of boxes
[04:19] <wil_syd> How long does an alternate install take ?
[04:19] <Parmenion> the standard ones bundled with ubuntu dont seem to make a difference
[04:19] <puller> how do i register an irc nickname?
[04:19] <aro> Also there should be some info on that nvidia page if you need it
[04:19] <PhilK> Parmenion: if I still had that laptop I'd try it out :)
[04:19] <Nubbie> dazzaz: remember the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:19] <nemo_home> puller: /msg nickserv help
[04:19] <Nubbie> dazzaz: it will bring you back here in one piece if it doesn't work.
[04:19] <Dazzaz> Nibbie, gotcha thanks.
[04:20] <bef> She-male.
[04:20] <Dazzaz> err... Nubbie that is. ;)
[04:20] <foxiness> puller: "/ns register yournick"
[04:20] <aro> Dazzaz, correction to step one that I gave you, it's ctrl+alt+f1" not "ctrl+f1"
[04:20] <aro> Don't know why I made that typo :(
[04:20] <mattycoze> can anyone help with a system font problem I've got?
[04:20] <rhoruns> i can't find any documentation on how to uninstall ubuntu 7.04. could anyone help?
[04:20] <splattnik> Hello, tiny question, does the lates livecd come with xgl, id like to try it out.
[04:20] <foxiness> puller: "/ns register yournick yourpassword"
[04:21] <El_Burro> Nubbie: dazzaz: remember the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - possibly the best bit of advice ever, its a life saver
[04:21] <doomster> ppl, when we search through apt-cache search , can we use boolean ? something like "apt-cache search teamspeak + client" ?
[04:21] <foxiness> puller: sorry "/ns register  yourpassword"
[04:21] <Dazzaz> aro, gotcha
[04:21] <wimdows> heelop, Nubbie - so gnome-baker should work ok, right?
[04:22] <Nubbie> wimdows: gnome-baker will do anything you need a cd burning application to do.
[04:22] <ionus> how i can to send file to another pc
[04:22] <ionus> ?
[04:22] <mm2000> hello, anyone here that use awstats?
[04:22] <rhoruns> could anyone help me find documentation on how to uninstall ubuntu 7.04
[04:22] <rhoruns> ?
[04:22] <seth_> !grub
[04:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:22] <wimdows> Nubbie - I'm talking about cloning a HDD partition
[04:22] <Parmenion> lol PhilK ... now im d/ling beryl... praying it works out of the box
[04:23] <Nubbie> rhoruns: do you have a problem?
[04:23] <trappist> Every time I try to start a new connection, whether it's with firefox, ssh, or whatever, it fails the first time.  ssh says resource temporarily unavailable, firefox gives the standard error page.  It works when I try again.  Any ideas?
[04:23] <ionus> how i can to send file to another pc
[04:23] <rhoruns> yes Nubbie.
[04:23] <heelop> i had some issues with gnome baker
[04:23] <Nubbie> wimdows: ohh my bad. use gparted. its like gnome-burner for partitions XD
[04:23] <rhoruns> I dont want Ubuntu on this drive anymore
[04:23] <PhilK> Parmenion: if glxinfo shows direct rendering and glxgears works then it will
[04:23] <wimdows> ionus - e-mail? ;-)
[04:23] <ionus> how i can to send file to another pc with lan
[04:23] <mattycoze> can someone help me upgrade my ubuntu to the latest 7.04 version?
[04:23] <heelop> i prefer k3b
[04:23] <rhoruns> When i take out this harddrive to put it in to another PC, my Windowx XP HDD doesnt boot up.
[04:23] <jrib> !upgrade > mattycoze (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:23] <Nubbie> rhoruns: are you installing another linux distribution?
[04:23] <LjL> doomster, just put the both keywords, for an AND
[04:23] <wimdows> ionus - use samba smb://pcname
[04:24] <rhoruns> no, i want to reinstall ubuntu on this drive, but after i am able to get it off this P:C
[04:24] <ionus> but some chat lan
[04:24] <wimdows> Nubbie - ok, cheers
[04:24] <aro> !upgrade
[04:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:24] <Nubbie> rhoruns: you need to make a  grub entry for the windows on your other computer.
[04:24] <Parmenion> PhilK, thanks man, im learning alot by hanging out here :P
[04:24] <rhoruns> ?!?!
[04:24] <AndyCR> tholme: thats just the intermediate file for one of the source file(s), it should have also produced a program binary
[04:24] <rhoruns> i dont have windows on my other PC
[04:24] <rhoruns> nor do i want it there.
[04:24] <Trist_an> Is the alternat CD also a live CD?
[04:24] <doomster> LjL, thanx m8:) is there a way for NOT or OR?
[04:24] <wimdows> ionus - some chat lan? you mean you're using some IM client
[04:24] <rhoruns> i mainly use XP on this PC
[04:25] <Nubbie> rhoruns: :l
[04:25] <PhilK> Parmenion: yeah, #ubuntu is most excellent, lot's of super-helpful people in here
[04:25] <ionus> lan chat
[04:25] <ionus> chat into lan
[04:25] <Trist_an> I want to check that my PC can handle feisty and if so upgrade maybe from the CD...
[04:25] <LjL> doomster: no, but there is if you use aptitude instead of apt-cache. type "aptitude manual" in google, all the search options should be explained in the first page you get. they're a lot
[04:25] <ionus> like vypress
[04:25] <Trist_an> can I do this with the Alternate?
[04:25] <aro> Trist_an, run the LiveCD
[04:25] <rhoruns> why cant i simply uninstall Ubuntu?
[04:25] <doomster> LjL,  thanx :)
[04:25] <Nubbie> rhoruns: you could use gparted to repartition your drive, but grub would probably still be installed.
[04:25] <Parmenion> Trist_an: no, not with alternate
[04:25] <aro> rhoruns, you can format the partition
[04:25] <tholme> AndyCR: Okay, where do I find the program binary, should it appear where the file is located or . . .?
[04:25] <Trist_an> aro, there are Desktop CD and Alternate install CD...
[04:26] <Parmenion> alternate basically shoves you into a vesa install
[04:26] <aro> Trist_an, unless you need something special, boot from the Desktop CD
[04:26] <rhoruns> formatting doesnt help. my MBR requires that Ubuntu be installed, in order to allow me to boot Windows
[04:26] <aro> Trist_an, it will bring you into a Live environment
[04:26] <Nubbie> rhoruns: there is a package for ubuntu that restores the windows MBR.
[04:26] <Parmenion> Trist_an: unless you have under 256 ram, get the desktop cd
[04:26] <jrib> rhoruns: run 'fixmbr' on the windows install disk's recovery console
[04:26] <Trist_an> aro, can I upgrade from edgy to feisty from he CD after testing it in the live cd
[04:26] <AndyCR> tholme: i havent used anjuta in awhile, but it should be somewhere in your project folder, named after your project
[04:26] <rhoruns> ohh ok
[04:26] <AndyCR> it shouldnt have any extension
[04:26] <Nubbie> rhoruns: or do what jrib said.
[04:26] <tholme> ok, thnx:)
[04:26] <rhoruns> thank you guys very much.
[04:26] <AndyCR> anjuta should run it if you click run
[04:26] <guspad> #ubuntu-classroom
[04:27] <aro> Trist_an, I'm not sure on the upgrading process since I've always just done clean installs, but you can check out the following link for advice
[04:27] <Trist_an> woooowww downloading at 10Mo/sec the CD
[04:27] <aro> !upgrade | Trist_an
[04:27] <ubotu> Trist_an: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:27] <ionus> !chat
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[04:27] <vbanait> hi i installed med-practice from synaptic package manager but not able to see it on application menu. Did killall gnome-panel 4 times as suggested , but not helping
[04:27] <Nubbie> trist_an: use the update-manager method.
[04:27] <ionus> !lan chat
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[04:28] <Trist_an> I've seen there are trouble in feisty with ATI card... so I want to check if my card will be supported
[04:28] <ionus> !vypress
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vypress - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Trist_an> or will it be because it is in Edgy
[04:28] <aro> Trist_an, it's most likely support to the extent that you can see the desktop, but you'll have trouble getting eye candy to work
[04:28] <Nubbie> vbanait: edit your menu, system > preferences > main menu
[04:28] <aro> At least in my experience with ATI
[04:28] <Nubbie> trist_an: what card do you have?
[04:28] <Trist_an> aro, I have Beryl working perfectly on Edgy
[04:28] <aro> Trist_an, which card do you have
[04:28] <Trist_an> ATI X700 I think
[04:28] <Nubbie> trist_an: then nothing will change.
[04:29] <Trist_an> I read there was trouble with this one
[04:29] <aro> Trist_an, I had Radeon 9800 working fine with XGL+Beryl in Edgy, and when I upgraded to Feisty I had a hell of a time getting that same setup to work :(
[04:29] <aro> Trist_an, I hope you have better luck though
[04:29] <Nubbie> trist_an: do you want to do a clean install of feisty, or to just upgrade? both methods work fine.
[04:29] <mattycoze> hey guys
[04:29] <mattycoze> can anyone help me with a font problem in menubars and titlebars ect
[04:29] <Trist_an> I want to check that I will be able to have X working on Feisty and then upgrade if it works
[04:30] <Nubbie> trist_an: you just need to follow the beryl wiki for feisty, its really not that hard.
[04:30] <mattycoze> i can't do anyhthing!
[04:30] <Trist_an> after if I can't have Beryl/Compiz I will find a way
[04:30] <bobslaede> Hey, how can i do so that, lpadmin doesnt need a password, so that anybody can add a printer to a system?
[04:30] <Nubbie> trist_an: if you have beryl working in edgy, it will work in feisty.
[04:30] <aro> Nubbie, that wiki doesn't always work, especially with ATI
[04:30] <Trist_an> BUt I want to be sure that I can have a normal KDE session
[04:30] <Nubbie> aro: it does if you use the right drivers, ie. not fglrx.
[04:30] <vbanait> Nubbie: there is nothing like main menu
[04:31] <Trist_an> fglrx should not be used anymore in Feisty?
[04:31] <Trist_an> Nubbie, could you point me to the wiki ytou're speaking about
[04:32] <Parmenion> PhilK:woot ... it works
[04:32] <kanzie> I installed Trac with apt-get on my dapper-server but it installed trac 0.9.3 instead of 0.10.3 which is like a year apart... how could this be?
[04:32] <Nubbie> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[04:32] <ferret_0567> What are the hwdb-client* packages used for? I don'
[04:32] <PhilK> Parmenion: congrats, you'll have fun with Beryl, make sure to turn on transparent cube, it's super neat to be able to see something on the back side of the cube while working on the front
[04:32] <mattycoze> can someone please help with my font problem?
[04:33] <foxiness> how can i read the mail send by the system ?
[04:33] <Parmenion> ok XD
[04:33] <Trist_an> Nubbie, you mean that AIGLX is supported by ATI card now?
[04:33] <Nubbie> vbanait: run alacarte
[04:33] <ferret_0567> What are the hwdb-client* packages used for? I don't currently have then installed (lightweight KDE, kde-core package, with some software that comes with Kubuntu going to be installed), and am trying to save some space and processing power.
[04:34] <Nubbie> trist_an: i use a Radeon 9550, with the radeon drivers, and AIGLX works fine for me. if your card uses the radeon drivers, i assume you would be fine as well.
[04:34] <Dazz> Ok, stupid noob question... what do i need to do to stop X before installing NVIDIA drivers?
[04:34] <LM1> is  anyone else here almost ready to pull their hair out with feisty?  I cannot get networking to work even with a NIC known to work in edgy
[04:34] <AndyCR> Dazz: are you running feisty?
[04:34] <Dazz> AndyCR, yes, I am... fresh install
[04:34] <ferret_0567> Don't say, "Oh, you need to go to #kubuntu for this question", no, they have a KDE frontend to hwdb, and a GNOME one
[04:35] <LM1> anyone know how to fix the network issues with feisty
[04:35] <AndyCR> Dazz: you should be able to go into System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager, check nVidia, and have it Just Work
[04:35] <Trist_an> !radeon
[04:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:35] <foxiness> ferret_0567: apt-get search hwdb
[04:35] <ferret_0567> Dazz, are you using (X)ubuntu
[04:35] <ferret_0567> ?
[04:35] <doomster> LjL,  thanx. aptitude seems to be the tool i needed:) great work
[04:35] <LM1> anyone here know what is up with feisty's networking issues?
[04:36] <Dazz> AndyCR, I understand that, but from what I've read that is not the most recent driver that it loads.... or is it.
[04:36] <mattycoze> LM1 with fiesty did you get a font problem when you upgraded?
[04:36] <ferret_0567> AndyCR: hmmm...never used the restricted manager
[04:36] <Trist_an> Nubbie, my lspci doesn't tells me I won a Radeon card
[04:36] <AndyCR> Dazz: Not totally sure, all I know is I used that and it worked perfectly, including beryl
[04:36] <Nubbie> trist_an: i'm fairly confident that you don't want to use fglrx.
[04:36] <ferret> ferret_0567: Did you consider looking at the package description, man pages, google, ...?
[04:36] <ferret_0567> no
[04:36] <Dazz> Ferret_0567, yes Ubuntu 7.04
[04:36] <ferret> ferret_0567: List the files that come with the package and look at those?
[04:36] <AndyCR> even set up xorg.conf correctly
[04:36] <ferret_0567> I was thinking I would get a quick answer
[04:36] <Trist_an> Nubbie, it tells me ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7145
[04:36] <Nubbie> trist_an: are you using pci-e?
[04:36] <Parmenion> PhilK:How to get the cube to appear?
[04:37] <ferret_0567> ok, I'll start looking
[04:37] <vbanait> alacarte does not help
[04:37] <Trist_an> Nubbie, might be I'm on a laptop
[04:37] <Nubbie> vbanait: you need to make a new entry for the application you installed.
[04:37] <vbanait> how
[04:37] <PhilK> Parmenion: you should automatically have the cube, hit CTRL+ALT+left or right
[04:37] <mattycoze> can anyone help me with my font problem? i can't see my title bars or menuy bars , they're just boxes
[04:37] <ferret_0567> Parmenion: you need to get a driver, and Beryl installed
[04:37] <Nubbie> vbanait: man alacarte
[04:37] <Nubbie> run that.
[04:37] <farid> How does one configure Creative webcam in Kubuntu 7.04
[04:37] <ferret_0567> Nah, no Beryl, unless you want it
[04:37] <Parmenion> ferret_0567: Beryl is working XD
[04:38] <ferret_0567> Good
[04:38] <Parmenion> just need the cube to appear
[04:38] <AndyCR> does anyone know of an offsite backup service with rsync?
[04:38] <aro> Dazz
[04:38] <vbanait> difficult to understand for men
[04:38] <ferret_0567> Then, you go into the Beryl Settings Manager, and check two checkboxes
[04:38] <PhilK> Parmenion: also try holding CTRL+ALT and click on the desktop
[04:38] <aro> Type /etc/init.d/gdm stop in order to stop X
[04:38] <AndyCR> something like pay 5 bucks a month, get rsync access for backups?
[04:38] <Parmenion> PhilK:this is nice ....
[04:38] <Parmenion> loving the cube effect
[04:38] <PhilK> Parmenion: play around with the options in beryl manager (right click the gem)
[04:39] <AndyCR> parmenion: wait till you see the fire :)
[04:39] <mattycoze> common, someone?
[04:39] <Nubbie> andycr: just buy an external hard drive.
[04:39] <ferret_0567> Well...I don't have Beryl installed anymore
[04:39] <Parmenion> AndyCR: fire?
[04:39] <AndyCR> yeah
[04:39] <PhilK> AndyCR: personally I like the beam out effect :)
[04:39] <Nubbie> mattycoze: you're using beryl/compiz.
[04:39] <Nubbie> mattycoze: reload the window decorator.
[04:39] <vbanait> should the system start up help
[04:39] <AndyCR> Nubbie: i would, but offsite would be better, incase the house burned down, etc
[04:39] <_Lockee> vmware player + madwifi working. Anyone? I've read quite alot about how to fix this but to no avail...
[04:40] <Nubbie> andycr: computer data would be the last of my worries then lol.
[04:40] <mattycoze> Nubbie i've turned it off because i thought it was doing something to screw it up
[04:40] <vbanait> linux is for genius probably
[04:40] <ubuntuEdgy> PhilK: i like the Dream effect
[04:40] <ferret_0567> Amazing, I manage to get over 10 FPS on a 800MHz P3 with a i810e video card, with the VRAM set to 48MB (on the Intel cards, you can choose how much VRAM you want)
[04:40] <mattycoze> Nubbie but it hasn't done anything, i'm using the metacity one atm
[04:40] <Nubbie> vbanait: we've told you everything you need. you need to manually add the menu item because you installed debian software on an ubuntu machine.
[04:40] <AndyCR> PhilK: yeah, I like that too, also like the Glide 2 effect
[04:41] <Nubbie> mattycoze: use metacity --replace
[04:41] <ferret_0567> I'm going to build a new computer soon
[04:41] <ubuntuEdgy> i havent seen a glide 2 effect
[04:41] <vbanait> so should i get debian instead if this is my requirement
[04:41] <tokyoahead> hi all... I have an intel graphics chip in my laptop, 1280x800 screen, the 915resolution -l is showing the resolution and the xorg.conf also since install, but the screen resolution prefs show _only_ 1024x768.... any idea what I can do?
[04:41] <wimdows> Beryl is all very cool - but I prefer having direct 3d rendering over fancy stuff anytime
[04:41] <ashunti> hello
[04:41] <ferret_0567> It'll be much better
[04:41] <wimdows> be nice to have both tho ;)
[04:41] <AndyCR> ferret_0567: quite good, thats about what i used to get on my1.3ghz celeron laptop with an i810
[04:41] <vbanait> can i start the program from shell
[04:41] <TheInfinity> has somebody a nice tutorial for ldap?
[04:42] <Orfeous> ant guides or something to get UUID work on my other harddisk?
[04:42] <aro> tokyoahead, I just got done fixing that problem of my own, hold I let me find a link for you
[04:42] <Orfeous> any
[04:42] <ferret_0567> If you use, say, kwin or xfwm4 with their composite managers, it'll run very well
[04:42] <albert> when will the wiki be up again?
[04:42] <Nubbie> vbanait: or you could read the man page on alacarte to learn how to add a menu item. or you could right click the package you installed in synaptic to go into its properties dialogue and view it's installed files in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin and add them to your menu.
[04:42] <mophilly> hello. Aside from what is on the web site, what is the distinction between LTS and the other distribution?
[04:43] <mc44> mophilly: it is supported for longer
[04:43] <AndyCR> mophilly: lts is supported longer
[04:43] <Nubbie> mophilly: dapper LTS was 2 releases ago, it's packages are older.
[04:43] <AndyCR> and more stable
[04:43] <tokyoahead> ar othanks
[04:43] <ferret_0567> So, the amazing performance of Linux still amazes me, if it doesn't run well, just uninstall the kitchen sink and BAM, it's fast!
[04:43] <Nubbie> mophilly: but it was designed to be very stable. so if you don't mind older packages, use that.
[04:43] <tokyoahead> aro thanks
[04:43] <ysse> vbanait: Yes, you most probably can run from a shell, like Nubbie says, just find the file to start in /usr/bin
[04:43] <vbanait> hi nubbie, you can only help me out
[04:44] <ferret_0567> The kitchen sink on my P3 would be ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <mophilly> OK. So the non-LTS version is the development rendition?
[04:44] <Nubbie> vbanait: i've been trying.
[04:44] <LM1> anyone else having major issues with networking in feisty?
[04:44] <aro> tokyoahead, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post1465348
[04:44] <ferret_0567> If I just selectively install apps from either of those, it'll be good
[04:44] <AndyCR> mophilly: not development. its more like lts is ULTRA stable, current is stable, ubuntu+1 is development
[04:44] <Nubbie> vbanait: look up the installed files in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin from the package you installed, then add that installed file to a menu item in alacarte
[04:44] <sorcerer> is it true that .. feisty fawn will .. have the nvicdia .. drivers already in them .. or something like compiz ?
[04:44] <mc44> mophilly: no, its just supported for 18 months instead of 3 years
[04:45] <Shafto> sorcerer, Yes
[04:45] <aro> tokyahead, also this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4516
[04:45] <Nubbie> mophilly: of course the current release IS fairly stable, it's more cutting edge.
[04:45] <Shafto> sorcerer, I think the nvidia drivers are in the default repos, and compiz is preinstalled
[04:45] <Armin> hell0
[04:45] <AndyCR> sorcerer: no, it doesnt. feisty is out, and it doesnt have nvidia drivers in it, only has an easier way to install them
[04:45] <AndyCR> but they are in the default repos
[04:45] <Nubbie> sorcerer: the compiz installed by default is very limited.
[04:45] <antidrugue> AndyCR: a very easy way indeed
[04:45] <AndyCR> compiz is installed but not enabled by default
[04:45] <AaronMT> Anyone else get pixelformatfailed in steam under wine ?
[04:45] <Armin> i need repos to fiesty
[04:45] <AndyCR> and for some reason lacks the scale feature, but
[04:45] <kanzie> how can I see which version of ubuntu that I have installed?
[04:46] <mc44> AndyCR: no it has it
[04:46] <Nubbie> armin: are you trying to upgrade?
[04:46] <AndyCR> kanzie: about ubuntu
[04:46] <mophilly> Thanks for the replies. Am I on track to view LTS as appropriate for SMB installs that need very little attention, while the other version is OK for more adept sites?
[04:46] <AndyCR> mc44: what do you mean by "has it"?
[04:46] <sorcerer> umm so i have to doanlowd teh drivers serperatly just the repos are there already .. in the source list ?
[04:46] <mc44> AndyCR: scale
[04:46] <Woody_> How can i run Windows XP inside Ubuntu 7.04?
[04:46] <beermaster> kanzie: cat /etc/issue
[04:46] <Nubbie> !upgrade | armin (use the update-manager method)
[04:46] <ubotu> armin (use the update-manager method): For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:46] <AndyCR> mc44: ah, didnt know that. how do you activate it?
[04:46] <antidrugue> sorcerer: which drivers?
[04:46] <Nubbie> mophilly: you're running a webserver?
[04:46] <Shafto> AaronMT, AaronMT
[04:46] <sorcerer> Woody_: .. just dont mate .. ubuntu kicks MS ..
[04:46] <mc44> AndyCR: click in the top right corner?
[04:46] <AndyCR> Woody_: look up a virtualization program
[04:47] <sorcerer> antidrugue: nvidia ..
[04:47] <AndyCR> like vmware
[04:47] <Woody_> lol sorcerer
[04:47] <mc44> AndyCR: otherwise you can set it up with gnome-compiz-manager
[04:47] <mophilly> Nubbie: yes.
[04:47] <aro> !vmware | Woody_
[04:47] <ubotu> Woody_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:47] <Shafto> Woody_, Hello :)
[04:47] <AndyCR> ok thanks
[04:47] <tokyoahead> aro thanks a lot I will try that
[04:47] <Shafto> Woody_, What do you need it for?
[04:47] <Nubbie> mophilly: if this server is more than something casual, i would definitely go with LTS, especially if your pay depends on it working.
[04:47] <antidrugue> sorcerer: System->Administration->Restricted Drivers
[04:47] <Woody_> hi Shafto :)
[04:47] <crash_> hi all I have an problem for update => http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb
[04:47] <crash_>   404 Not Found   help me please
[04:47] <Woody_> I have WinXP on my other partition, can i run it from VMWARE?
[04:47] <mophilly> Nubbie: Cool. That makes sense.
[04:48] <Shafto> Woody_, Why dont you just add it to grub? So you can fully boot it?
[04:48] <antidrugue> Woody: I don't believe you can, VMWARE runs VMWARE images
[04:48] <Woody_> Shafto: i have some softwares to run
[04:48] <Nubbie> mophilly: enjoy.
[04:48] <sorcerer> antidrugue: i have ... ubuntu 6.10
[04:48] <Shafto> !Dualboot | Woody_
[04:48] <ubotu> Woody_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:48] <Woody_> antidrugue: explain more please
[04:48] <mophilly> Nubbie: many thanks to you and the others.
[04:48] <AndyCR> Shafto: i assume he wants to not have to reboot
[04:48] <Nubbie> woody_: you can use qemu to create images which vmware can use.
[04:48] <kanzie> beermaster: If Im running 6.06.1, why is it that apt-get install trac gives me a version more than a year old while my laptop running feisty is providing me with v.0.10.3 which is quite new
[04:48] <Woody_> Shafto: explain more :P what do you mean by drug?
[04:48] <Woody_> i mean grub*
[04:48] <antidrugue> sorcerer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:48] <Nubbie> woody_: that's linux's bootloader.
[04:48] <Woody_> yeah, how can i boot both?
[04:49] <KraTzZ> Hey guys - I love Ubuntu (I'm on Win right now) - but I have a problem with the new Feisty: why isn't there any support for Mobile ATI Video cards ??
[04:49] <Shafto> Woody_, Well its up to you whether you want to run it seperately or one inside the over
[04:49] <ashunti> hi
[04:49] <antidrugue> Woody: well, VMware can't run OS from other partitions, it uses special images file to boot OS
[04:49] <Woody_> Shafto: i want to run XP inside ubuntu
[04:49] <crash_> somebody ?
[04:49] <Nubbie> kratzz: what kind of support?
[04:49] <ysse> Woody_: VMWare emulates an entire computer, with unix files emulating the hard drive etc
[04:49] <ikarug1> hi all ... I just recently installed Edgy.... can someone give me a "killer app" ... really convincing reason why I should upgrade to Fiesty?
[04:49] <Woody_> ah antidrugue i dont want that
[04:49] <antidrugue> !windows > Woody_
[04:49] <Shafto> Woody_, You sure WINE cant handle the programs you want?
[04:49] <Woody_> i want it to run from the other partition
[04:49] <Woody_> Shafto: yeah i tried, some wont work
[04:49] <KraTzZ> I mean, no drivers or something, X fails
[04:49] <Nubbie> ikarug1: banshee
[04:49] <aro> Woody_, then you can just dual boot
[04:50] <Shafto> Woody_, Why dont you look for the free alternatives
[04:50] <aro> Granted you have to reboot but it's the best youc an do
[04:50] <Woody_> aro: how can i do that?
[04:50] <KraTzZ> but edgy works fine with ATI
[04:50] <aro> !dualboot | Woody_
[04:50] <ubotu> Woody_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:50] <HObbES1> need help, can't install vlc due to dependencies =(
[04:50] <Woody_> thanks aro
[04:50] <antidrugue> HobbES1: what about "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?
[04:50] <xor11u> Hi, who know my problem? If xorg.conf Composite disable then fglrxinfo (show my ATI Radeon X300) => OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. But if i enable Composite then fglrxinfo show Mesa... Why is that?
[04:50] <Woody_> Shafto: there are no good enough alternatives
[04:50] <itguru> and compaq users in here? I need to get into the bios but it's being a bitch
[04:50] <Shafto> Woody_, Oh okay, well dual boot then
[04:51] <HObbES1> antidrugue thats what i did
[04:51] <refefer> hey guys, I need some help configuring a widescreen monitor with an intel chipset beyond the basic 915resolution.  Anyone available?
[04:51] <Nubbie> kratzz: is this a problem trying to get beryl/compiz installed?
[04:51] <Parmenion> lol PhilK, my first Beryl crash
[04:51] <Woody_> yes sir!
[04:51] <antidrugue> HObbes1: which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[04:51] <Shafto> !Dualboot | Woody_
[04:51] <Parmenion> and ruined my 22hr uptime
[04:51] <ubotu> Woody_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:51] <papatwilight> Iwant to change my menu icon , how do I do that ?
[04:51] <aro> refefer, one second I Just gave links to someone who had that exact problem
[04:51] <Woody_> thanks
[04:51] <antidrugue> HObbes1: is your /etc/apt/sources.list in right order?
[04:51] <PhilK> Parmenion: yeah, you'll get used to that, some modules are more stable than others...
[04:51] <KraTzZ> no, I can;t even install Feisty, because of this... and I've seen a lot of people with this prob
[04:51] <refefer> aro: ok
[04:51] <HObbES1> antidrugue- ubuntu fiesty fawn desktop
[04:51] <Woody_> PhilK, philip kiwan?
[04:51] <AndyCR> papatwilight: loook up distributor logo change ubuntu
[04:52] <PhilK> Woody_: heh, nope
[04:52] <Woody_> ah sorry PhilK
[04:52] <HObbES1> antidrugue- im not sure how to do that, can i pm you?
[04:52] <papatwilight> ok
[04:52] <aro> refefer, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4516 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post1465348
[04:52] <PhilK> Woody_: np man
[04:52] <antidrugue> HObbeS1: make sure all the repositories are enabled in System->Administration->Software Sources
[04:52] <LjL> kanzie: uh, because 6.06 is way older than feisty. new versions of packages are *never* added to a released version of ubuntu (except sometimes via backports, which are optional)
[04:53] <kanzie> LjL: As I figured then, but the question really is how I can change this and update it?
[04:53] <refefer> aro: thanks a bunch, checking it out right now
[04:54] <LjL> kanzie, there is no backport of trac for dapper, so you can't.
[04:54] <crash_> FUCK ALL FOR ANSWERS GOD DAMN ALL
[04:54] <LjL> kanzie: i suppose you might want to request one
[04:54] <mc44> kanzie: you can request a backport
[04:54] <aro> !language | crash
[04:54] <ubotu> crash: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:54] <antidrugue> !patience | crash_
[04:54] <ubotu> crash_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:54] <bjohan> if i need to change a script in a .deb package, how do i do, im used to tar.gz based pkg-systems
[04:54] <Nubbie> !patience | crash_
[04:54] <Nubbie> whoops.
[04:55] <aro> He left anyway
[04:55] <Nubbie> i hate ignorance.
[04:55] <mc44> "left"
[04:55] <antidrugue> bjohan: what are you trying to do exactly ?
[04:56] <kanzie> mc44: LjL: how do I request a backport ?
[04:56] <mc44> !backports | kanzie
[04:56] <ubotu> kanzie: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:56] <bjohan> antidrugue, trying to install kolab but there is a install script in one of the packages that is not up to date, found a diff for it so i want to modify the script and install it
[04:57] <Parmenion> PhilK: how do i see the 3D cube?
[04:57] <bjohan> antidrugue, it is the postinst script that is flawed
[04:57] <lee_> hi
[04:57] <KraTzZ> hello
[04:57] <leidong> ....
[04:57] <PhilK> Parmenion: along the top, Desktop > sidebar: Desktop Cube > tab: Transparency
[04:58] <bronoromial> hi
[04:58] <wimdows> Parmenion - CTRL-ALT - mouse move left - right
[04:58] <lee_> can someone help me with a quick problem?
[04:58] <fargerface> what do you need lee?
[04:58] <antidrugue> bjohan: did you look at all the kolab-related packages here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/
[04:58] <wimdows> !dvd
[04:58] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:59] <antidrugue> lee_: what's the problem?
[04:59] <bjohan> antidrugue, i installed from there
[04:59] <CheshireViking> ask > lee_
[04:59] <lee_> i'm running Feisty, i recently deleted the network monitor off of the top right of the screen and when i go to add panel and add it back, it says error
[04:59] <bjohan> antidrugue, i think, let me check
[04:59] <antidrugue> ok
[04:59] <Parmenion> lee, uninstall the app and reinstall it ?
[04:59] <fargerface> whats the error?
[05:00] <lee_> it doesn't show my internet connection or the available wireless connections
[05:00] <bhtb> is it time yet for class?
[05:00] <lee_> under connection is says name: eth1:avahi, and status: error
[05:00] <Nubbie> lee_: you're using feisty you say?
[05:01] <LM1> can anyone help me troubleshoot a NIC (not wireless) on feisty this nic and others I have tried worked fine in edgy
[05:01] <Nubbie> lee_: network manager is being used in feisty now. try using that.
[05:01] <lee_> yes, i'm using feisty
[05:02] <lee_> is it the one under administration that just says "network"?
[05:03] <Nubbie> lee_: no, it should run in the notification area.
[05:03] <Lopi> hmm can i install kde on ubuntu 7.04 Faisty? Better do it as apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or apt-get install kde?
[05:03] <Nubbie> lee_: press alt-F2 and run network-manager
[05:03] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, my Amarok can't play mp3, when I try to play an mp3 file, it tells me to install the mp3 support and halts there!
[05:04] <Nubbie> !restricted | intangibleliquid
[05:04] <ubotu> intangibleliquid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:04] <lee_> it says "the location or file could not be found
[05:04] <IntangibleLiquid> I have installed all he gstream plugins!
[05:05] <belfegor> do you know a program like dcgui 2?
[05:05] <LjL> Lopi: kubuntu-desktop, if you want the whole stuff that comes with kubuntu
[05:05] <LjL> !kde > Lopi    (Lopi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:05] <Pelo> belfegor,  what is dcgui ?
[05:05] <belfegor> is a program like dc++
[05:05] <Nubbie> belfegor: is that a P2P program?
[05:05] <belfegor> yes
[05:06] <Nubbie> belfegor: use GTK-Gnutella
[05:06] <belfegor> ok i will thank you
[05:06] <zaggynl> dcpp is dc++ for linux
[05:06] <lee_> nubbie, it says the file could not be found
[05:07] <bjohan> antidrugue, yes it is from there, but the problem is that 6.06 (which the package was created for) uses php4 and 7.04 uses php5 so i need to change a path in the script
[05:07] <belfegor> so wich is better gtk gnutella or dcpp?
[05:07] <sbrath> I have a question on kubuntu, in Konsole when I run screen now, I can't do a Shift-Page-Up to look at history? I used to be able to do this in the older version of KDE?
[05:07] <antidrugue> bjohan: and you are on 7.04 or 6.06?
[05:08] <refefer> ok, when setting the resolution via 915resolution to something your monitor supports(widescreen), and then the screen glitches up, does that indicate a monitor problem or a gfx problem?
[05:08] <Parmenion> hey guys, how do i install beryl themes?
[05:08] <bjohan> antidrugue, 7.04
[05:08] <antidrugue> bjohan: and there is no package for 7.04 ?
[05:08] <eck> sbrath: that's more of a question for #kubuntu
[05:08] <antidrugue> bjohan: right, i see
[05:08] <bjohan> antidrugue, not that i can see, the package is for ubuntu_all it says
[05:09] <Lopi> LiJ: thanx. You think that the faster is kde or mayby gnome?
[05:09] <um8> Looking for some tutorial for totall noobie, i wish to make my mousebuttons working in game and application this is my mouse http://top100.stack.ru/Product/34832/34832_1.jpg im using Gnome distro and i have now idea how linux works so i need the easiest way to fix this problem plz pm me (thanks)
[05:09] <snap> NE1 running a a Presario v3000 w/ wiFi?
[05:09] <ysse> lee_: Check your sessions, do you have Network Manager active? (I think nm-applet is what you type in the alt-F2 box)
[05:10] <LjL> Lopi, that's just a subjective question. i use KDE.
[05:10] <mc44> Lopi: LjL is biased and will say kde. Mostly people think both are faster
[05:10] <antidrugue> bjohan: which package depends on PHP? (of all the kolab ones)
[05:10] <LjL> mc44: LjL, knowing he's biased, will neven give a clear-cut answer on that sort of questions.
[05:10] <mc44> :)
[05:11] <bjohan> kolab-resource-manager it is posted as a bug for that package in the package database
[05:11] <sgtmattbaker> can someone please help me in regard to burning data DVDs in K3B.. it isn't working.. here are the details.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2524087#post2524087
[05:11] <belfegor> i install gtk gnutella but it doesnt open
[05:11] <lee_> yeah, i looked at sessions and it says network manager is a start up program
[05:11] <LM1> anyone  know what eth0:avahi is
[05:11] <LM1> and how can I get rid of it
[05:11] <bjohan> antidrugue, kolab-resource-manager it is posted as a bug for that package in the package database
[05:11] <belfegor> what should i do?
[05:11] <LM1> and why is my eth0 using ipv6 on my ipv4 network
[05:11] <Parmenion> snap: yeah, im running a presario v3000
[05:12] <Nubbie> !ipv6 | LM1
[05:12] <ubotu> LM1: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:12] <eck> LM1: eth0:avahi is a virtual interface
[05:12] <eck> i think if you shut down all the avahi services it will go away
[05:12] <antidrugue> bjohan: perhaps you can "dpkg -x ..." (to extract it) and then "dpkg -b ..." (to rebuild it)
[05:12] <Lopi> at the moment im using xfce becouse gnome is slow for me... and have to big icons.... kde is preatty but i would like that it will be fast like xfce too
[05:12] <stp2007> IdleOne, Belated thanks for yestedays help. I was able to install Ubuntu withthe alternate install cd
[05:12] <snap> Parmenion: Did you have troubles with the WiFi Seup on it.......when I boot it to live cd its not finding any networks
[05:13] <bjohan> antidrugue, thanks!
[05:13] <Parmenion> yup
[05:13] <LM1> is there anyway to uninstal eth0:avahi
[05:13] <LM1> ?
[05:13] <Nubbie> bjohan: are you trying to build a .deb package?
[05:13] <Nubbie> LM1: turn off avahi
[05:13] <eck> LM1: stop /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon
[05:13] <snap> did you have to use NDiswrapper or something?
[05:13] <Pelo> how do I get rid or that annoying  network manager icon in the top gnome pannel ?
[05:13] <eck> LM1: you won't be able to use avahi of course though
[05:13] <belfegor> i install gtk-gnutella with synaptic and now it didn't start:(
[05:13] <Parmenion> could you do a lspci -v | grep Broadcom for me snap and tell me the output?
[05:14] <snap> ahh crap i booted it back to windows
[05:14] <bjohan> Nubbie, just change the postinst script
[05:14] <eck> Pelo: system > preferences > sessions
[05:14] <snap> give me a minute ill boot it back to the live cd
[05:14] <bjohan> antidrugue, here is the flaw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kolab-resource-handlers/+bug/107343
[05:14] <Pelo> eck,  realy ?
[05:14] <Pelo> thanks
[05:14] <fotoflo_> how is a home directory defined?  is it only in the /etc/passwd or is it somewhere else too?
[05:14] <Parmenion> snap, have you installed ubuntu yet?
[05:14] <Nubbie> Pelo: it is useful though, some applications use network manager to detect if the computer is connected to the internet.
[05:14] <kevindos> Could someone help me, I got no sound.
[05:15] <eck> fotoflo_: it is in /etc/passwd, but of course there is a HOME environment variable as well
[05:15] <Nubbie> kevindos: are you using a laptop?
[05:15] <kevindos> Nubbie  nope
[05:15] <Pelo> Nubbie,  it's only the icon I want to hide
[05:15] <lee_> oh wow, nevermind about the mission nwork connection
[05:15] <eck> fotoflo_: you can do it without passwd files if you are using something lik eNIS though
[05:15] <Nubbie> Pelo: there may be a gconf2 key to hide the icon... i don't know.
[05:15] <rajk> where is the correct place to set environemnt variables. at the moment i just use ~/.bashrc
[05:15] <snap> Parmenion: not on that machine I have it on My Dell laptop .....live cd recognized wireless w/o an install on it
[05:15] <belfegor> what is the comand so can i start a program in cmdline
[05:15] <belfegor> ?
[05:15] <Pelo> Nubbie,  good idea, I'll play around with it later
[05:15] <fotoflo_> eck: "When delivering email to a user, sendmail checks to see if the user has a .forward file in his home directory. "  so sendmail checks the /etc/passwd for that user?
[05:16] <GionnyBoss> rajk: man export
[05:16] <eck> fotoflo_: that is correct
[05:16] <antidrugue> bjohan: i see
[05:16] <fotoflo_> cool
[05:16] <kevindos> Nubbie how do I fix it :( ?
[05:16] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know howto LAN network installation ubuntu? (please direct me to the howto if there is any)
[05:16] <zOOd> 'lo
[05:16] <Parmenion> snap: yeah, same problem i used to have here
[05:16] <LM1> stop /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon will that remove it from my system
[05:16] <Nubbie> !sound | kevindos (you could try this)
[05:16] <ubotu> kevindos (you could try this): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:16] <bjohan> antidrugue, i thought the scripts was in the package, but i can not find them :(
[05:16] <antidrugue> teckfatt: what do you mean ?
[05:16] <Pelo> arghhh,   all my icon thems are screwed up
[05:16] <LM1> permanently ?
[05:16] <Pelo> half of them are human the other half is  gnome
[05:17] <fotoflo_> eck, so if i have a login shell, when i login it checks the /etc/passwd, which (right now) automaticly logs me in using sh,  if i want sh to run bash first thing, can i make a login sh script? where would i put it?
[05:17] <Parmenion> snap:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[05:17] <antidrugue> bjohan: i'll check
[05:17] <teckfatt> antidrugue: setup a server and install ubuntu to workstation at LAN
[05:17] <kevindos> Nubbie  I got no volume control, where is it?
[05:17] <eck> fotoflo_: if you want to run a different shell you can change that directly with chsh
[05:17] <Nubbie> LM1: if you're concerned about eth0:avahi, then you should have avahi off.
[05:17] <bjohan> antidrugue, in case i forget to mention it later, i really appreciate your help!
[05:17] <Nubbie> kevindos: right click on the volume applet on the panel
[05:18] <kevindos> Nubbie  I got xubuntu
[05:18] <kevindos> xfce
[05:18] <Nubbie> ugh.
[05:18] <fotoflo_> eck: unfortuatly, i cant... no permissions to run chsh
[05:18] <Nubbie> kevindos: i don't know how to help you then, sorry.
[05:18] <eck> fotoflo_: if the shell is run as a login shell it will source ~/.bash_profile right off the bat so you can edit things there too
[05:18] <ikarug1> nubbie: banshee is available on Edgy, I believe
[05:18] <dredhammer> hello i have decided to keep using the default video drivers that came with feisty but i was wondering is there a way to increase the screen resolution to max size my monitor can support, it won't go beyond 1024x780
[05:18] <eck> you can also use ~/.profile which is compatible with bourne shell i think
[05:18] <snap> Parmenion can you join #snap......its to busy in here
[05:19] <snap> #snap
[05:19] <antidrugue> bjohan: right, it is not in kolab-ressource-handlers
[05:19] <kevindos> Nubbie  fixed it nvm
[05:19] <Nubbie> ikarug1: banshee 0.12.1 is not.
[05:19] <eck> fotoflo_: if you want to change the shell in your profile, do it with exec
[05:19] <gRaCiOsO> what is HAL ?
[05:19] <rbanffy> Hi folks. Anyone knows what happened to the phosphor screen saver on Feisty?
[05:19] <Nubbie> ikarug1: feisty does not really have any new packages available, only updated ones.
[05:20] <predaeus> kevindos, there is a panel plugin, you can also join #xfce and #xubuntu for specific help
[05:20] <Nubbie> !hal | graci0s0
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Nubbie> ugh.
[05:20] <kevindos> predaeus thanks I ffixed it =)
[05:20] <kevindos> predaeus  how does one play .rm music files?
[05:20] <antidrugue> graCIOsO: hardware abstration layer
[05:20] <Nubbie> craci0s0: it handles everything connected to your computer.
[05:20] <eck> fotoflo_: often though /bin/sh is a symlink to bash
[05:20] <Nubbie> g****
[05:21] <dgl> hi, I bought a Dell Dimension e521, but I can't install proprietary driver. When I turn on restricted driver, Ubuntu simple get a black screen after the finish of next reboot
[05:21] <gRaCiOsO> antidrugue,  me aparece que no se puede cargar HAL
[05:21] <gRaCiOsO> al inicio
[05:21] <ikarug1> Nubbie: well thanx for trying.... Banshee is for streaming music right? Not really my cup of tea
[05:21] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know howto setup a server and install ubuntu to alot of computer in LAN network? (send me the link for the howto good enough, tz)
[05:21] <eck> actually on ubuntu it points to dash
[05:21] <gRaCiOsO> error interno
[05:21] <gRaCiOsO> hmm
[05:21] <Nubbie> dgl: what video card do you have?
[05:21] <antidrugue> !es > gRaCIOsO
[05:21] <Nubbie> ikarug1: it does everything related to listening to music.
[05:21] <frojnd> hello there. I just put blue tooth adapter and kubuntu recognize it. And than I set in the phone to search for music files and the phone found my hostname but it wasn't able to connect throuhg blue tooth. What do I have to do so phone can connect to my comp???
[05:21] <dgl> Nubbie: ATI x1300
[05:21] <bjohan> antidrugue, i found the same script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kolab-resource-handlers.postinst but when i change it and then tried to reinstall the package it still failed and the script was changed back to the original so i kind of assumed that the script was included in the package and installed at that location
[05:21] <Pelo> ikarug1,  look into  songbird , it's not in the repos google for it
[05:21] <ikarug1> Nubbie: quite comfortable with Exaile....
[05:22] <Nubbie> !ati | dgl
[05:22] <ubotu> dgl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <eck> i think songbird is even fatter than banshee...
[05:22] <gRaCiOsO> antidrugue,  excuse me when i start my ubuntu edgy it show me that error it cant load HAL
[05:22] <antidrugue> bjohan: perhaps you can contact the package maintainer (Ubuntu MOTU Developers: ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com)
[05:22] <ikarug1> Pelo: quite happy w/ Exaile, thanx though
[05:22] <Nubbie> ikarug1: feisty is just edgy with new packages, better error reporting, network manager, compiz, and handling of restricted modules.
[05:22] <predaeus> kevindos, I think you would need to install realplayer from their website
[05:22] <Lopi> when im trying to instal kubuntu-desktope i get information thatn some packages for example "adept" doesn install and when im trying to install this pacagets system said that it can be install:(
[05:22] <dgl> Nubbie: I have tryed it
[05:22] <fotoflo_> eck, not in my case... but i just wrote a .profile with the line "bash" and now when i login it starts bash, while leaving the sh process open... but does bash run any scripts if its not bieng run as a login script?
[05:23] <Pelo> eck,  just a suggestion,  rhythmbox has a streaming plugging doesn'T it ?
[05:23] <kevindos> predaeus  what about apt-get?
[05:23] <JoeBlack> whats a good benchmark program to meassure hardware cpu ram and such between 2 computers
[05:23] <JoeBlack> so i can compare them.
[05:23] <bjohan> antidrugue, will do that
[05:23] <dgl> Nubbie: lspci just say that I have an ATI card
[05:23] <mc44> kevindos: vlc, xine etc play rm
[05:23] <JoeBlack> I have to compare 2 boxes, similar hardware, what could i use to benchmark em?
[05:23] <ikarug1> nubbie: that's all? Not impressed unfortunately... specially with Compiz
[05:23] <Pelo> ikarug1,  sorry I thought you were looking for an app.  nvm then
[05:23] <bogdan_> hello, in what channel is going to take place the UbuntuOpenWeek?
[05:23] <rbanffy> Is this the right channel to ask about what happened to the Phosphor screen saver on Feisty? It's, apparently not there
[05:23] <Nubbie> ikarug1: then don't use it.
[05:23] <antidrugue> gRaCIOsO: perhaps you have some kind of USB device pluged in
[05:23] <kevindos> mc44 nope vlc doesdnt and xine loads and buffers to 18% then stops (but I can see the timer move but hear noi sound)
[05:23] <ikarug1> nubbie: Is it possible to turn that off in Fesity? (Compiz---my card can't really handle it)
[05:23] <AaronMT> why does flash keep locking up firefox ie; force quit :( ?
[05:23] <Hugo> hi
[05:24] <fotoflo_> eck: aha! .bashrc
[05:24] <eck> fotoflo_: you want to do 'exec bash' to completely replace the old shell. If you want to make bash do the login shell thing (or not) read the INVOCATION section of the bash man page
[05:24] <Nubbie> ikarug1: its not enabled by default, and i'm sure it's removable.
[05:24] <mc44> kevindos: ah, Is it a stream you are trying to play?
[05:24] <bjohan> antidrugue, thanks a whole lot anyway!
[05:24] <dredhammer> hello  is there a way to increase the screen resolution to max size my monitor can support in feisty, it won't go beyond 1024x780 using the default drivers
[05:24] <winkiller> booted from feisty cd - selected "start or install" and in the gui all characters are little squares. (I found out that happens with upgrades) but what to so while installing?
[05:24] <kevindos> mc44 i downloaded it and play and tried streaming it, both didnt work
[05:24] <Hugo> Hi, have a problem with nfs network
[05:24] <Nubbie> !resolution | dredhammer
[05:24] <ubotu> dredhammer: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <Hugo> anyone can help?
[05:24] <antidrugue> bjohan: no problem, if you manage to contact the developpers, i'm sure it will benefit lots of other people with the same issue
[05:24] <mc44> kevindos: well rm wfm with xine :s Perhaps you could try helix-player
[05:24] <lovloss> Okay, so the feisty live cd does not have handling for the x700 series of radeon graphics cards... great
[05:24] <Hugo> I am doing what the how to for feisty sais but cant get it working
[05:24] <eck> Pelo: yeah it does, I don't really use rythmbox (or streaming music for that matter) so I'm not sure what capabilities it has
[05:24] <mc44> kevindos: it is meant to be an open version of realplayerr
[05:24] <lovloss> any ideas?
[05:25] <kevindos> mc44 rm wfm, what does that mean?
[05:25] <mc44> kevindos: .rm, works for me
[05:25] <kevindos> helix-player is an open version of realplayer?=
[05:25] <Pelo> eck,  don'T mind me , just chatting,  i don'T stream either
[05:25] <antidrugue> kevindos: realplayer is based on helix-player
[05:25] <mc44> kevindos: right
[05:25] <teckfatt> Hugo: what is ur problem ?
[05:25] <Nubbie> kevindos: why not just install realplayer?
[05:25] <tombs> trying to upgrade to feisty, the system asks me to free 34Mb on /boot, but my boot partition has only 25Mb. Is there somehow to do it? please...
[05:26] <eck> fotoflo_: .bashrc is sourced for an interactive shell, .bash_profile is sourced for a login shell (you might source one from the other however)
[05:26] <teckfatt> Hugo: is ur two computer using ubuntu?
[05:26] <tbuss> is there a channel for evolution; the website has it listed as #evolution on irc.gimp.org. but I'm not sure how to connect
[05:26] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I do as the ubuntuguide for feisty sais but it doesnt work
[05:26] <Nubbie> tombs: use the livecd's gparted application.
[05:26] <LjL> bogdan_: #ubuntu-classroom - it's going on right now. please read the topic there
[05:26] <Hugo> teckfatt:  both with ubuntu feisty
[05:26] <kevindos> Nubbie well I hate real is therent a way through apt-get?
[05:26] <kevindos> mc44 how do u play .rm files through terminal?
[05:26] <Nubbie> !info realplayer | kevindos
[05:26] <ubotu> kevindos: Package realplayer does not exist in feisty
[05:26] <tombs> Nubbie: and is possible to resize swap to ge some extra space?
[05:26] <Nubbie> UGH!
[05:26] <antidrugue> tbuss: seems the channel you mentioned is the right one
[05:26] <Hugo> I have installed the packages for a nfs server (wich where allredy isntalled by default)
[05:26] <ikarug1> tbuss: type "/join #evolution"
[05:26] <bogdan_> LjL: thanks
[05:26] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok, can u ping the two computer?
[05:27] <eck> tbuss: i'm not sure what irc client you are using, but you have to do something like /connect irc.gimp.org and then join #evolution
[05:27] <antidrugue> tbuss: it doesn't connect?
[05:27] <Nubbie> !info realplay | kevindos
[05:27] <ubotu> kevindos: Package realplay does not exist in feisty
[05:27] <Nubbie> wtf.
[05:27] <wimdows> Nubbie - so I presume I should use the live CD as well to move my linux part to a diff physical disk?
[05:27] <Hugo> teckfatt yes, actually one is acting as a nat firewall for the other
[05:27] <Hugo> so they can see each other
[05:27] <Nubbie> wimdos: yeah you can't do it while running heheh.
[05:27] <kevindos> could you please write again
[05:27] <kevindos> could you please write again i got disconnectedf
[05:27] <kevindos> how do you play .rm files with xine
[05:27] <kevindos> doesnt work for me
[05:27] <refefer> hey guys, any one have a link to the supported widescreen formats for an intel 945G graphics card?  Appreciate it in advance.
[05:27] <wimdows> Nubbie - exactly - and umounting wouldn't be a good idea - (prolly doesn't even let ya)
[05:28] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I have added the packages to act as nfs server, that where allredy installed
[05:28] <Nubbie> kevindos: realplayer does exist, check repositories.
[05:28] <antidrugue> kevindos: mplayer plays them all
[05:28] <Hugo> I have shared a couple of folders
[05:28] <tbuss> I;m using xchat I tried to add gimp.org but was not able to connect; I also tried #evolution in Freenode but was told I don't have perms
[05:28] <Nubbie> okay!
[05:28] <antidrugue> kevindos: realplayer is in the commercial repo
[05:28] <mc44> Nubbie: no realplayer isnt in the feisty offical repos
[05:28] <kevindos> Nubbie  NO it doesnt
[05:28] <Hugo> and when I try to mount from the other computer it does nothing just thinking all the time
[05:28] <Nubbie> kevindos: yes what mc44 said :D
[05:28] <Hugo> but nothing happens
[05:28] <Hugo> no error no succes
[05:28] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok just to make u, u have installed these package, nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[05:28] <mc44> antidrugue: the commercial repo isnt up for feisty yet
[05:29] <antidrugue> mc44: oh
[05:29] <kevindos> Nubbie  I got disconnected so I cant read what he said
[05:29] <teckfatt> Hugo: u need to install these 3 package for the server computer
[05:29] <Hugo> teckfatt:  yes, actually they were allredy installed
[05:29] <Hugo> I have followed www.ubuntuguide.com
[05:29] <kevindos> antidrugue  could u give me the commericical repo?
[05:29] <Nubbie> kevindos: its in the commercial repository.
[05:29] <kevindos> I dont have that
[05:29] <teckfatt> Hugo: so two computer oso got these three packega?
[05:29] <doomster> Quick Question: how can i kill a process from console, and how can i see Process/PID list from console?
[05:30] <Hugo> teckfatt in the other one I dont know but there are for sure the packages to act as a client in the second
[05:30] <teckfatt> Hugo: type $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure portmap
[05:30] <Hugo> teckfatt I did that as well
[05:30] <kevindos> mc44 hey u there
[05:30] <antidrugue> kevindos: there is a package there: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/realplay/realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:30] <Hugo> and restarted portmap
[05:30] <teckfatt> Hugo: choose NOT
[05:30] <dooglus> I'm trying to install feisty, but when I boot the cd it tells me that X didn't start up, even if I use 'safe graphics mode'.  any ideas?
[05:30] <Hugo> oh
[05:30] <TheInfinity> does anybody know a program for creating physical spectra? for example the spectrum of the sun with its black lines in it?
[05:30] <eck> dooglus: ps -ef to see the pid, use kill to kill by pid or pkill to kill by process name
[05:30] <Hugo> teckfatt:  im going to try
[05:30] <Hugo> thanks
[05:30] <eck> err
[05:30] <kevindos> mc44 how do you play .rm files?
[05:30] <eck> htat was to doomster
[05:30] <kevindos> thanks antidrugue
[05:31] <dooglus> the error tells me it 'caught signal 11.  server aborting'.  that's SIGSEGV isn't it?
[05:31] <antidrugue> dooglus: what kind of graphic card do you have ?
[05:31] <teckfatt> Hugo: server computer need to have nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[05:31] <mc44> kevindos: in amarok, which uses xine, so probably wont work for you
[05:31] <dooglus> eck: which process?
[05:31] <kevindos> i got xine too
[05:31] <fiXXXerMet> Could someone point me to how to set the hostname on my 7.04 server?  I edited /etc/hostname and restarted, but hostname -f, hostname -s, etc gives Unknown host
[05:31] <Supaplex> dooglus: yes, kill -l tells you signal numbers and names.
[05:31] <eltese> hi. Im wondering wheter there are any decent drivers for the geforce 8800 GTS out yet?
[05:31] <eck> dooglus: sorry, i meant to send to doomster and tab completed your nick instead
[05:31] <teckfatt> Hugo: client computer need to have these two "nfs-common portmap"
[05:31] <Supaplex> fiXXXerMet: fix /etc/hosts and if at all possible, fix DNS to.
[05:32] <stickybit`> feisty sucks
[05:32] <teckfatt> Hugo: then both do the $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure portmap (and choose 'NOT')
[05:32] <kevindos> mc antidrugue  thanks realplayer worked fine :)
[05:32] <antidrugue> kevindos: cool
[05:32] <fiXXXerMet> I have 127.0.0.1 host.domain.tld host in /etc/hosts
[05:32] <antidrugue> eltese: sure there are
[05:32] <vadvad> hi, i dl nvidia driver for my gf6600 and i don't know how to install it....
[05:32] <teckfatt> Hugo: now u need to restart the portmap $ sudo /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[05:32] <Supaplex> stickybit`: oh, so you're going to contribute patches for the lapse?
[05:32] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I read it wrong. Thanks for the help
[05:32] <fiXXXerMet> Supaplex: I have 127.0.0.1 host.domain.tld host in /etc/hosts
[05:32] <stickybit`> what to do with error kinit no resume image
[05:33] <eltese> antidrugue: u dont happen to have a site for them? :)
[05:33] <ferret_0567> vadvad: all I can say is: DON'T
[05:33] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I am doing the whole process again but choosing not
[05:33] <Hugo> thanks
[05:33] <stickybit`> Supaplex:
[05:33] <Supaplex> fiXXXerMet: that's not part of public dns. you need your public ips to.
[05:33] <fiXXXerMet> ah ok
[05:33] <fiXXXerMet> sec :)
[05:33] <teckfatt> Hugo: good luck
[05:33] <antidrugue> eltese: they are present in Feisty: System->Adminisitration->Restricted Drivers
[05:33] <vadvad> why? it will cause problems?
[05:33] <eck> stickybit`: it is not an error, it just means that you weren't in hibernate mode when you booted up
[05:33] <eltese> antidrugue: thank you =)
[05:33] <ferret_0567> vadvad: There is a Ubuntu version of that same driver you are trying to install
[05:33] <ferret_0567> vadvad: yes, it will
[05:33] <dooglus> antidrugue: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB
[05:33] <stickybit`> eck : there is often system crash
[05:33] <vadvad> ok 10x!
[05:34] <mc44> kevindos: how did you isntall realplayer?
[05:34] <feierfox> hi
[05:34] <feierfox> need an open torrent tracker for feisty
[05:34] <eck> stickybit`: well the kinit message is not an error
[05:34] <ferret_0567> Here:
[05:34] <ferret_0567> !nvidia | vadvad
[05:34] <ubotu> vadvad: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:34] <antidrugue> mc44: using this package: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/realplay/realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:34] <feierfox> can someone help me?
[05:34] <wimdows> is there any decent benchmark for 3d performance (not glxgears..)
[05:34] <dooglus> Supaplex: so the X server is seg faulting in feisty?  6.06 (the last version I tried) works fine on this PC
[05:34] <kazumi> Hi
[05:34] <vadvad> do u know where i can get small games for linux ?
[05:34] <mc44> antidrugue: that isnt a feisty package though, right?
[05:34] <stickybit`> eck: i just checked out ubuntuforums.org
[05:34] <antidrugue> mc44: no, but it works
[05:35] <feierfox> i need a open torrent tracker to download a feisty torrent
[05:35] <fiXXXerMet> Supaplex: That did it.  Thank you.
[05:35] <mc44> antidrugue: sure, just checking :)
[05:35] <Supaplex> dooglus: apparently. check the X server log for a backtrace.
[05:35] <feierfox> please help :/
[05:35] <stickybit`> eck : 20 pages with same problem without any solution
[05:35] <eck> stickybit`: regarding that error messagE?
[05:35] <stickybit`> eck : and the problem is with 7.04 only
[05:35] <Supaplex> dooglus: and file a bug report with the information of it.  Have you tested you system for memory defects just to be sure it's reliable?
[05:35] <dooglus> Supaplex: I see the backtrace
[05:35] <LjL> wimdows: GLOBS (search on google, i don't think it's in the repos yet, but there's a package somewhere)
[05:35] <stickybit`> eck : yeah
[05:35] <Mike2> what is with this xchat on ubuntu
[05:35] <Mike2> wheres the normal one that was listed in 6.10
[05:35] <dooglus> Supaplex: I've not.  how do I do that?
[05:35] <aro> Mike2, what do you mean
[05:35] <Mike2> not the 'special gnome customized' one :s
[05:35] <_Neil> hmm lame, rhythmbox keeps disappearing. no error, just closes... any idea what to do?
[05:36] <Supaplex> dooglus: I think it's reportbug
[05:36] <MrFatJac1> upgrade to 7.04 breaks broadcom wireless . . . any thoughts?
[05:36] <doomster> Quick Question: how can i kill a process from console, and how can i see Process/PID list from console?
[05:36] <Mike2> cause the other xchat had nicklist etc over there >>
[05:36] <antidrugue> mc44: the package doesn't mentioned any distribution, but it was build on january 24, 2007... works fine though
[05:36] <dooglus> Supaplex: do you know of a distro which might work?
[05:36] <aro> Mike2, you using 7.04?
[05:36] <wimdows> ok - thanks LjL - I'll have a look
[05:36] <Mike2> yeah aro
[05:36] <Supaplex> doomster: kill, killall, top, ps.
[05:36] <LjL> doomster: "kill -9 PID", "ps aux"
[05:36] <mc44> antidrugue: yeah its the edgy package
[05:36] <aro> Mike2, me too and XChat looks identical to others
[05:36] <dooglus> Supaplex: maybe one which tests the basics before a release?  this is a pretty mainstream graphics card after all
[05:36] <Mike2> :/
[05:36] <aro> Mike2, edit some settings in preferences
[05:36] <Mike2> if i compiled it from source
[05:36] <Supaplex> dooglus: the latest ubuntu, or debian etch
[05:36] <eck> stickybit`: i don't think that is the problem -- the resume image refers to a hibernate image
[05:36] <Mike2> it would probably have it there >
[05:36] <aro> Mike2, shrug, I used packages
[05:36] <boguh> hi, how can i get german "umlaute" in gnome terminal?
[05:36] <_Neil> hmm lame, rhythmbox keeps disappearing. no error, just closes... any idea what to do? where would i find an error log of some sort?
[05:37] <larslj> feierfox: the torrent is on Ubuntus site, what else do you need?
[05:37] <Mike2> and when i installed it on 6.10 thru app manager, it would probably have nicklist there too
[05:37] <Whitor> Hello, after upgrading to feisty, my xgl window manager doesn't load... the screen looks all messed up (lots of horizonatal lines and horizontal repeating of images, nothing is readable, I have to ctrl-alt-bkspc to exit)
[05:37] <dooglus> Supaplex: this is feisty I'm using.  the X server crashes as soon as it boots from CD
[05:37] <bipolar> Does anyone know if the version of evolution in Feisty has support for Groupdav?
[05:37] <antidrugue> mc44: but it depends on very basic things like libgtk, libpango, and libstd, etc.
[05:37] <Mike2> but on this one i have to click a button, "1331 users"
[05:37] <stickybit`> eck : do you use feisty
[05:37] <fiXXXerMet> OK, another problem.  My MB has onboard sound, which I disabled in the BIOS.  When I restart my system, I see that it is shutting down ALSA - shouldn't that have not be loaded in the first place?
[05:37] <vadvad> how can i test my pc now to really see the diff betweem windows and linux?
[05:37] <eck> stickybit`: yes
[05:37] <paradroid> Hi, is there a specialised channel for sound issues with Ubuntu?
[05:37] <aro> vadvad, boot from the LiveCD
[05:37] <stickybit`> eck: without any  problems?
[05:37] <Mike2> vadvad: try live cd
[05:37] <Mike2> yeah
[05:37] <feierfox> need a torrent link to the 386 dektop CD
[05:37] <eck> stickybit`: no problems
[05:37] <Supaplex> dooglus: ahh. try debian etch, it's similar to ubuntu, and it's what ubuntu is built on.  debian has (argubly) long testing periods.
[05:37] <crdlb> Mike2, that's xchat-gnome
[05:37] <vadvad> i allready installed ubuntu
[05:37] <Mike2> or if you want to continue trying, install on a virtual machine or dual boot if you know what your doing
[05:38] <limon_> hi
[05:38] <antidrugue> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:38] <Mike2> yah crdlb
[05:38] <Mike2> normal xchat isnt in app manager
[05:38] <Mike2> but it was on 6.10
[05:38] <Mike2> :s
[05:38] <aro> vadvad, then just use it and see the differences
[05:38] <crdlb> !xchat | Mike2
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <feierfox> ah! i got it!
[05:38] <dooglus> Supaplex: I've run debian sid before on this machine without problems - I think that's what ubuntu is based on isn't it?
[05:38] <crdlb> !info xchat | Mike2
[05:38] <Mike2> how can i get it back ? do i need to compile from source
[05:38] <ubotu> mike2: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[05:38] <vadvad> but i wanna push my pc to it's max..
[05:38] <limon_> Is there an special channel for nvidia card
[05:38] <feierfox> i got it
[05:38] <aro> vadvad, by doing what exactly?
[05:38] <crdlb> Mike2, it's in universe
[05:38] <aro> vadvad, "pushing pc to the max" is really vague
[05:38] <dyrne> limon_: what is your problem?
[05:38] <antidrugue> limon_: what's with your nvidia card?
[05:39] <Whitor> After upgrading to feisty, my ati radeon mobility x1300 doesn't work as well as it did with edgy... can someone help me fix this ?
[05:39] <clouder`grr> Has any one here tried Transmission?
[05:39] <vadvad> loading an application that usualy is hard to load..
[05:39] <Mike2> hmm, i dont know what "universe" is. im quite new to ubuntu ;p and linux on desktops in general
[05:39] <mc44> Whitor: what is the problem?
[05:39] <Mike2> ill have a look
[05:39] <feierfox> won't waste canoncials bandwith
[05:39] <Whitor> mc44: xgl doesn't load
[05:39] <BeckE> Heeoooii, i'v been trying to install 7.04 but i can't get past the bootloader Grub part, after i partition and format the new partition on my Nvidia RAID 2xsata disks witch i have winxp on. Ubuntu starts to install but in the ending it just says fail to setup grub or something like that... the prob is that i'v tried the hd0 and sda, and nvidia_ddhprps (misspelling) What and where am i suppost to put it?
[05:39] <Supaplex> dooglus: roughly. ubuntu's 'releases' are just a few months behind sid. if you're comfy with sid/lenny/etch, I'd stick with that.
[05:39] <dooglus> Supaplex: the reason I'm trying feisty is that there's a live CD.  I don't think debian has one, does it?
[05:39] <stickybit`> eck:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385869&highlight=kinit
[05:39] <doomster> ty
[05:39] <crdlb> !universe > Mike2
[05:39] <doomster> :)
[05:39] <mc44> Whitor: are you using the fglrx drivers?
[05:40] <Whitor> mc44: trying to get hardware accelerated window manager working
[05:40] <Whitor> yeah
[05:40] <Supaplex> dooglus: they do have. you can even roll your own livecd, if you want. with your own packages and whatnot on them.
[05:40] <_Neil> also I have loads of these in my syslog: ntpd returns a permission denied error! - any ideas?
[05:40] <Whitor> fglrxinfo shows its installed ok
[05:40] <vadvad> how do i reg to this server?
[05:40] <Mike2> !universe
[05:40] <Mike2> !universe xchat
[05:40] <Mike2> lol
[05:40] <antidrugue> dooglus: not officialy, but Knoppix does the job
[05:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about universe xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <mc44> Whitor: what error do you get from xgl?
[05:40] <Supaplex> dooglus: I contributed patches to use grub for booting on cd, so that'll be available soon :)
[05:40] <srikanthssn> i'v been trying to install 7.04 but its getting struck during partitoning stage. It says scanning for disks at 46%  forever. I however successfully installed using same CD in friends pc without anyprobs
[05:40] <vadvad> !universe
[05:41] <_Neil> ntpd_initres : ntpd returns a permission denied error! I have one of these logged a minute.. how can i fix it?
[05:41] <Whitor> mc44: No error... the screen just gets all messed up
[05:41] <dooglus> Supaplex: got a reference I can look up for the debian live CD images?
[05:41] <vadvad> !universe xchat
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about universe xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Supaplex> antidrugue: http://live.debian.net the package offical (it might be too new to be in stable)
[05:41] <antidrugue> dooglus: http://live.debian.net/
[05:41] <mc44> Whitor: how are you starting xgl?
[05:41] <eck> stickybit`: i have the same message printed to tty1 and it doesn't hang for me
[05:41] <Whitor> fglrxinfo reports this: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:41] <sacater> !xchat
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <BobSongs> Greetings; I have an odd situation. I've downloaded the Dapper repositories for i386 using 'debmirror'. So far everything works fine. Then I create 'Packages.gz' files with 'dpkg-scanpackages'. The issue is when I point apt-get to the local repositories to install something I get a complaint when I install something from a local package: 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!' I was wondering if anyone had experience with
[05:41] <BobSongs> this.
[05:41] <antidrugue> Supaplex: right, but those are unofficial
[05:41] <mc44> Whitor: ah, thats your problem :)
[05:41] <dorka> hello
[05:41] <stanner> how should i add a second hardrive to fstab to have it automount on boot with read/write options?
[05:41] <BeckE> Heeoooii, i'v been trying to install 7.04 but i can't get past the bootloader Grub part, after i partition and format the new partition on my Nvidia RAID 2xsata disks witch i have winxp on. Ubuntu starts to install but in the ending it just says fail to setup grub or something like that... the prob is that i'v tried the hd0 and sda, and nvidia_ddhprps (misspelling) What and where am i suppost to put it?
[05:41] <aric> how do i setup a XDMCP host ?
[05:42] <Whitor> mc44: cool, thanks for helping me narrow it down
[05:42] <Whitor> mc44: any ideas on how to fix ?
[05:42] <antidrugue> BobSongs: did you download the PGP signatures of the repositories?
[05:42] <mc44> Whitor: try asking in #ubuntu-effects, they should know
[05:42] <dooglus> antidrugue: great.  thanks.
[05:42] <stickybit`> eck: i am very dissappointed with feisty.... dapper and edgy are good
[05:42] <Whitor> mc44: awesome !! thank you so much
[05:42] <vadvad> i dl a flash plugin for the fire fox. how do i install it?
[05:42] <aleksanteri> how it was to list all ids? :P
[05:42] <tbuss> I'm having trouble with evolution. My inbox indicates there are messages avail. but I can't get to them? Clicking on the inbox folder has no effect. I tried unsubscribing and resubscribing to all folders, but evolution says "this store does not support subscriptions. What is going on?
[05:42] <antidrugue> stickybit: disapointed? i'm trilled with it
[05:42] <stanner> how should i add a second hardrive to fstab to have it auto-mount on boot with read/write options?
[05:43] <antidrugue> tbuss: did you try the evolution IRC channel?
[05:43] <teckfatt> BeckE: hey.....
[05:43] <stanner> how should i add a second HD (riserfs) to fstab to have it auto-mount on boot with read/write options?
[05:43] <adi> Hi, i think i've done a little mess with my ubuntu amd64 /boot partition there's someone that can send to me initrd and vmlinuz files?
[05:43] <vadvad> i dl a flash plugin for the fire fox. how do i install it?
[05:43] <BobSongs> antidrugue, Yes indeed. All that's been done and it's possible to install stuff. But it just adds the added pain-in-the-butt complaint that these packages are not authenticated. They're all right from the site. I've downloaded the signatures as instructed. No go.
[05:43] <teckfatt> BeckE: what which partition u installed the ubuntu?
[05:43] <aleksanteri> how to list all process ids?
[05:43] <tbuss> yes, there was only one other person there at the time; blind leading the blind
[05:44] <eck> aleksanteri: ps -ef
[05:44] <jamisnemo> is there any easy way to "upgrade" from a normal ubuntu install to one for a low memory laptop?
[05:44] <antidrugue> tbuss: hehe
[05:44] <vadvad> i dl a flash plugin for the fire fox. how do i install it?
[05:44] <jamisnemo> gnome is eating my computer
[05:44] <BeckE> i\v put it on the #3 nvidia_ddp****
[05:44] <boubbin> how to see what resolution im currently using from command-line ? (kubuntu)
[05:44] <thotz> !flash
[05:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:44] <BeckE> 1 and 2 is ntfs
[05:44] <vadvad> 10x
[05:44] <eck> jamisnemo: just install another desktop (e.g. xubuntu-desktop) and use that instead of gnome
[05:44] <dyrne> vadvad: drop it in the correct folder. either /home/username/.mozilla/plugins or something or /usr/lib/whatever for all users
[05:44] <BeckE> the 4rth is the swap
[05:45] <tbuss> antidrugue: I'm at the evolution website and the support isnt the greatest, I'm also looking in the forums and the solution seems to be switching to thunderbird, but I like evolution
[05:45] <teckfatt> BeckE: so what u mean is sda1 is ur winXP....and sda2 is ntfs, and u install ubuntu on sda2?
[05:45] <serida> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:45] <jamisnemo> eck: what config file would I change to move it from gnome to the newly installed one?
[05:45] <aleksanteri> ok thx :)
[05:45] <eck> jamisnemo: at the login screen you can choose what desktop you log into. when you change it, it will prompt you if you wish to continue using that desktop
[05:45] <serida> adiosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[05:45] <antidrugue> tbuss: i've never used evolution though, sorry... is that a fresh installation of Feisty... evolution never wored fine on it?
[05:45] <BobSongs> antidrugue, I have added a tutorial at ubuntuforums on how to create repository DVDs. This nuisance is the only step I need to overcome for it to be a "complete" tutorial. Here's the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460.
[05:45] <TTRanger> ablyss Fancy meeting you here!
[05:46] <jamisnemo> eck: alright that should help! thanks
[05:46] <BeckE> well, teckfatt my setup is so that i have 2xsata disks with 300gb each, in windows i\v just partition 50gb of them for windows, rest is storage. Now i have taken 50gb more for ubuntu
[05:46] <dyrne> jamisnemo: 'sessions' button
[05:46] <teckfatt> BeckE: just want to know are u 1st time install ubuntu?
[05:46] <TTRanger> ablyss (it's Dane)
[05:46] <antidrugue> BobSongs: ok, i'll read it
[05:46] <Hugo> Hi
[05:46] <Hugo> I still have a nfs problem
[05:46] <Hugo> anyone?
[05:46] <BeckE> i havent been able to eaver to install ubuntu since they dident support ntfs and raid that much
[05:46] <BeckE> have been using Fedora core 6 instead
[05:46] <BobSongs> antidrugue, You can always message me at the site too. We can take the conversation off this channel as I'm sure it's utterly boring to anyone else here. ;-)
[05:46] <Mike2> is this where i was a second ago with the gnome frontend xchat? ;p
[05:47] <eck> BeckE: the nfs and raid support aren't any different than fedora...
[05:47] <Mike2> if it is, thankyou people who helped me
[05:47] <eck> ntfs, rather
[05:47] <tbuss> antidrugue: I'm still using edgy.......It worked fine until today, No big deal, I can always check my mail online, just a little puzzled
[05:47] <teckfatt> Hugo: yes
[05:47] <Mike2> i had to use "synaptic package" thingy ;p
[05:47] <teckfatt> Hugo: what the problem?
[05:47] <jamisnemo> dyrne:  alright I'll check it out
[05:47] <stealth_> can someone help me install beryl? :(
[05:47] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I did that in both computer
[05:47] <mc44> !beryl | stealth_
[05:47] <ubotu> stealth_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:47] <Hugo> did the whole process again but this time I said no when it asked me to bind to loop
[05:47] <teckfatt> BeckE: maybe is hd partition probelm
[05:48] <BeckE> Any1 have any good guide for configuring Grub?
[05:48] <Hugo> and it happens the same
[05:48] <ham>  where lies the alsa config file? or how do i redefine default soundcard for ubuntu 7.04?
[05:48] <stealth_> im trying to install beryl but this is always there: bash ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[05:48] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok
[05:48] <BeckE> nah, the hd seams to be partition perfectly
[05:48] <stealth_> any idea how to do that?
[05:48] <Hugo> the server sais its sharing the files
[05:48] <eck> tbuss: what mail protocol are you using?
[05:48] <BeckE> in XP with partmagic it can see and find everything
[05:48] <Hugo> but when I go to the client and do a sudo mount .......... it just gets stuck there
[05:48] <Hugo> nothing happens
[05:48] <mc44> stealth_: you should install the ati drivers from the repositories
[05:48] <antidrugue> BobSongs: wow, didn't noticy my laptop was at the end of the road, i'm back though
[05:48] <tbuss> eck,  pop
[05:48] <BeckE> it just seams that grub dosent whanna install in the right place
[05:49] <eck> tbuss: afaik only imap supports "subscriptions"
[05:49] <BeckE> coz i can't boot Windows XP either, without a cd
[05:49] <ham>  where lies the alsa config file? or how do i redefine default soundcard for ubuntu 7.04?
[05:49] <stealth_> ive got the package the .run but i dont know how to use it
[05:49] <BeckE> becouse of grub
[05:49] <BobSongs> antidrugue, lol. Battery died? I know how THAT feels. ;-)
[05:49] <dooglus> it seems that installing fglrx and creating a new xorg.conf allows me to start the X server in feisty
[05:49] <mc44> stealth_: you dont need to use it. install from the repositories
[05:49] <mc44> !ati | stealth_
[05:49] <ubotu> stealth_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <Hugo> teckfatt:  any idea?
[05:50] <BobSongs> antidrugue, It is not a huge issue. It is just one of those ARRRGH moments that my research on the net with PGP/GPG, Repositories, etc. has proven fruitless.
[05:50] <tbuss> eck, thanks, I was just following the troubleshooting steps of others with the same problem.
[05:50] <stealth_> thanks ill try it out
[05:50] <eck> tbuss: i don't know much about pop, but subscribing to a folder in evoltuion refers to the IMAP subscribe command
[05:50] <antidrugue> wow nice tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460  and what is missing you said?
[05:50] <BobSongs> antidrugue, And I'm 100% positive it's something utterly simple and lame that I've overlooked.
[05:50] <teckfatt> BeckE: u can fix it with windows CD, boot it and choose repair, then press '1',(if i not wrong) then u will get command shell fix the masterbootdisk
[05:50] <tbuss> eck, okay, I take another look at it with a focus on POP, thanks
[05:51] <eck> tbuss: there is also an evolution mailing list which is a better place to ask on the irc channel
[05:51] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok i check it step by step
[05:51] <tbuss> eck, I hope they don't have to mail me anything :)
[05:51] <eck> tbuss: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[05:51] <Hugo> teckfatt:  ok
[05:51] <eck> tbuss: haha, that could be problematic :-)
[05:52] <jamisnemo> eck: First time using ubuntu. should I install xubuntu-desktop using apt-get or the add/remove pane?
[05:52] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok did u restart the server portmap? $ sudo /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[05:52] <tbuss> eck, I have the link open, thanks for your help
[05:52] <nathan> is there a command for a server list?
[05:52] <eck> jamisnemo: yeah, that is fine
[05:52] <eck> err, either way
[05:52] <jamisnemo> ok
[05:52] <jamisnemo> :P
[05:52] <stanner> how should i add a second HD (riserfs) to fstab to have it auto-mount on boot with read/write options?
[05:52] <IntangibleLiquid> how do I add UTF-8 to locale
[05:52] <teckfatt> Hugo: ok next u need to put the address of the folder u want to share on the server side
[05:52] <mc44> nathan: what do you mean by server list?
[05:52] <dooglus> is there any way to get the middle speaker to work?  only the outside 2 are doing anything
[05:53] <albert> hi, what's a good, non-kde/gnome pdf-viewer? (probably lightweight)
[05:53] <teckfatt> Hugo: $ sudo gedit /etc/exports
[05:53] <stanner> how should i add a second HD (riserfs) to fstab to have it auto-mount on boot with read/write options?
[05:53] <BeckE> aahh yeah, teckfatt. But i just whanna throw xp away and run Ubuntu instead :D but thanks for your help!
[05:53] <BeckE> l8ter
[05:53] <eck> albert: i think xpdf is really the only thing
[05:53] <albert> eck, thx, i'll try it out
[05:53] <teckfatt> Hugo: for example /home/hugo/music 192.168.1.1/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[05:53] <eck> albert: you could also try acroread, i'm not sure how lightweight that is
[05:54] <albert> i mostly need it to look at and print pdfs
[05:54] <teckfatt> Hugo: then save the /etc/exports
[05:54] <albert> maybe export as text
[05:54] <rooter> i need help, who can i active my wireless
[05:55] <teckfatt> Hugo: now need to restart the nfs server $    sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[05:55] <eck> albert: i just use evince... both evince and kpdf use poppler to do rendering, which is actually based on xpdf, so they are all extremely similar
[05:55] <teckfatt> Hugo: then $ sudo exportfs -a
[05:55] <Hugo> teckfatt: ok
[05:55] <teckfatt> Hugo: thats it for ur server side......
[05:55] <albert> eck, thank you
[05:55] <Hugo> Ive done it but thats what I did last time
[05:56] <Hugo> except I gave permision to one ip only not the whole range
[05:56] <stealth_> hey, it says something was wrong with my installation so i should run mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri     but it says permission denied when creating directory :( any ideas?
[05:56] <teckfatt> Hugo: now is ur client side.......make sure have these two package "nfs-common portmap"
[05:56] <Hugo> teckfatt:  feisty has them as default
[05:56] <teckfatt> Hugo: no......is not
[05:56] <mc44> stealth_: did you try installing following those instructions I gave?
[05:57] <teckfatt> Hugo: u need to install it ur self.....
[05:57] <stealth_> yeh im on the site
[05:57] <Hugo> well I installed yesterday, did apt-get today and it said they were installed
[05:57] <stealth_> but when i try that step coz it didnt install i get permission denied
[05:57] <mc44> stealth_: use sudo infront of the command
[05:57] <stealth_> ok thanks ill try
[05:58] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I installed feisty yesterday and today I did sudo apt-get install nfs-common portmap and it said they were allredy installed
[05:58] <dooglus> Hugo: that means they are already installed
[05:58] <Hugo> oh never mind
[05:58] <teckfatt> Hugo: on the client computer type $ sudo mount 192.168.1.X:/home/hugo/music /path/folder/on/client/com
[05:58] <Hugo> I installed them yesterday with gnome
[05:58] <Hugo> ok
[05:58] <Hugo> teckfatt:  just a seconc
[05:59] <asselberghs> what is the terminal command to start the simple update manager
[05:59] <asselberghs> ?
[05:59] <dooglus> can the feisty live CD use a flash memory stick like dapper could?
[05:59] <albert> eck, evince is exactly what i was looking for
[06:00] <dooglus> to save changes, etc.
[06:00] <dooglus> asselberghs: "sudo update-manager"
[06:01] <asselberghs> thx
[06:01] <Hugo> teckfatt:  it just gets stuck there
[06:01] <Hugo> teckfatt:  the ip address is the server one right?
[06:01] <Crankymonky> Hey, Im using Feisty and I can use the apostrophe key on my keyboard.  I have the keyboard layout set to US intrl. which has an apostrophe...but I cant use it.
[06:01] <teckfatt> Hugo: ya u need to know the ip address of that server
[06:02] <MikeB-> morning all
[06:02] <teckfatt> Hugo: tell me ur server address.... i type u the full path
[06:02] <Crankymonky> Didnt have this problem with Dapper, though I didnt upgrade, fresh install
[06:02] <Baktaah> Does anyone know a program to record the screen,.
[06:02] <Hugo> teckfatt: I put the ip address of the server and the path rights everything
[06:02] <Hugo> the server is acting as a nat router for the net so I know the ip
[06:02] <Hugo> I configure it yesterday
[06:03] <Hugo> teckfatt:  the extrange thing is that it doesnt give error it just does nothing
[06:03] <Hugo> I have to do crtl+c to get the terminal back
[06:03] <teckfatt> Hugo: yes i can imagine the situation .....
[06:04] <soulfreshner> how do I set up a mail server on my local machine to test some mail filters? ie I want to send mail to myself without needing to be on the internet
[06:04] <gRaCiOsO> i have this problem i cant join in my ubuntu in normal mode only in secure mode when i try join in normal mode when X is starting it get something like freezed some could help me?
[06:04] <teckfatt> Hugo: i found another howto.....check ur step http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[06:04] <adastra23> what's the best irc channel to ask about beryl settings?
[06:05] <|NewUser|> adastra23, offcourse #beryl is
[06:05] <adastra23> for some reason didn't see it thanks.
[06:05] <regius> where do i find sdpd in ubuntu?
[06:05] <hume> hi....got a problem getting my TV usb-stick to work, there is no /dev/dvb/adapter0 created - anyone knows of what to do?
[06:06] <gRaCiOsO> i have this problem i cant join in my ubuntu in normal mode only in secure mode when i try join in normal mode when X is starting it get something like freezed some one could help me?
[06:07] <fangorious> I can't seem to user synaptic through a http proxy that requires authentication
[06:07] <stealth_> hey, im up to the step for man fglrx but nothing comes up and it says "no manual entry for fglrx"
[06:08] <mc44> stealth_: why do you need to man fglrx?
[06:08] <bullgard5> What does it mean 'to highlight somebody'?
[06:08] <stealth_> its just part of the step
[06:08] <stealth_> If you are looking for a specific video configuration please read the driver's manual. It will tell you all about dual-head configurations for example :) .
[06:08] <stealth_> man fglrx
[06:08] <deafboy> my icons are missing in the menu of the default feisty install, anybody know how to get them back?
[06:08] <Ayabara> I want to unrar multiple files to separate folders. "unrar x file.rar" does the job for 1 file, but how can I do it with all rarfiles in a directory?
[06:09] <mc44> stealth_: do you need those things?
[06:09] <mynnx> unrar x *.rar
[06:09] <johnficca> I have a green 1" line on top of videos with I'm running in xgl/xserver, is there a way to fix that?
[06:09] <stealth_> if i restart it currently comes up for $ fglrxinfo
[06:09] <stealth_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:09] <stealth_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:09] <stealth_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:09] <stealth_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)      will it work?
[06:09] <mc44> stealth_: no, its not installed correctly, also, please dont paste in here
[06:10] <Anon2302> Sziasztok!
[06:10] <stealth_> ok ill be back soon
[06:10] <gRaCiOsO> i have this problem i cant join in my ubuntu in normal mode only in secure mode when i try join in normal mode when X is starting it get something like freezed some one could help me?
[06:10] <J-_> anyone know of a good ISP that supports Linux around the Toronto area? (I live in Hamilton)
[06:10] <Anon2302> http://sorozatsite.extra.hu vagy http://sorozatsite.extra.hu/forum
[06:10] <linuxboy_> I have 2 CDroms in my PC.  What should my /etc/fstab look like for them in feisty ?
[06:10] <mc44> !hu | Anon2302
[06:10] <ubotu> Anon2302: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[06:11] <capiira> hi, does exist something better than ffmpeg?
[06:11] <johnficca> I have a green 1" line on top of videos with I'm running in xgl/xserver, is there a way to fix that?
[06:11] <PMantis> My Edgy install recently started doing this every time apt-get runs: "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version \n 2.6.17-11-generic on running kernel 2.6.17-11-generic in /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs"... Help?
[06:11] <zaggynl> capiira, mplayer+vlc do the job for me
[06:12] <Anon2302> http://sorozatsite.extra.hu
[06:13] <johnficca> I have a green 1" line on top of videos with I'm running in xgl/xserver, is there a way to fix that?
[06:13] <mc44> LjL: spamety spam ^
[06:13] <zaggynl> zing
[06:13] <tilman_> how can I tell an sh-script to return to shell without exiting ?
[06:13] <deafboy> does anyone know why the theme manager would be broken in feisty?\
[06:13] <johnson> i want to clear one error can any one help us
[06:13] <gRaCiOsO> i have this problem i cant join in my ubuntu in normal mode only in secure mode when i try join in normal mode when X is starting it get something like freezed some one could help me?
[06:14] <PMantis> Help??  Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version
[06:14] <PMantis> 2.6.17-11-generic on running kernel 2.6.17-11-generic in /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs
[06:15] <clarence_> quit
[06:15] <sakabatou> How can i compile SDL_mixer with OGG support ?
[06:15] <wil_syd> About the cube desktop... how do I rotate it and should I have menu panels ?
[06:15] <stealth_> hey, rebooted and tried those steps again but no luck :(
[06:15] <stealth_> do i need to install ATI drivers again?
[06:16] <surviver> wil_syd, u mean 3ddesk?
[06:16] <clouder`grr> After I do $ make and $ sudo make install, can I delete the tar.gz and the folder I extracted it too?  Also how do I something I compiled if later I don't want it?
[06:16] <wil_syd> surviver: yes
[06:16] <johnficca> is there an Ubuntu channel for xgl/desktop effects stuff like that?
[06:16] <fangorious> johnficca: ubuntu-effects
[06:16] <mc44> stealth_: could you paste a link to the guide you are following?
[06:16] <johnficca> thanks
[06:16] <mc44> stealth_: also, what card do you have?
[06:17] <stealth_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:17] <surviver> wil_syd, well go system --> administration --> synaptic manager there click on the 3ddesktop and install it
[06:17] <stealth_> ATI Radeon X1300 PRO
[06:17] <Hugo> ok, nfs still not working... :(
[06:17] <sakabatou> How can i compile SDL_mixer with OGG support ?
[06:18] <wil_syd> surviver: I have the cube and can spin it with the mouse... but I have no task bar.
[06:18] <mc44> stealth_: and fglrxinfo still says mesa?
[06:18] <stealth_> yeh
[06:18] <wil_syd> Hugo: ntfs-config
[06:18] <stealth_> after all those steps to get the packages and stuff are done
[06:18] <surviver> wil_syd, mzz there i cant help ;D i have 3ddesk and can rotate then press enter and iam bck on screen
[06:20] <deafboy> would anyone know why the theme manager is broken in feisty?
[06:20] <bluefox83> the theme manager has always given me issues
[06:20] <puller> i love ubuntu
[06:20] <askar> When I press the "?" button on my keyboard, ubuntuhelp comes up. When I press the key with a lock on, ubuntu logs me out. But nothing happens with the mail and search button.. Can I program these?
[06:20] <Hugo> ok FINALLY!
[06:20] <Hugo> dont know why but its working
[06:20] <gasper> hey!! I need a solution - have a pst file in Ubuntu 7.04, and would like to impirt into thunderbird... please :S
[06:20] <zani> evenign all
[06:21] <antidrugue> askar: System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:21] <bullgard5> deafboy: At some times I also missed some icons in the Gnome menus (when I used Ubuntu 6.10 and Debian Etch). They reappeared after some updates. I have not such deficiencies using Ubuntu 7.04. Try asking in the #gnome channel but be patient there.
[06:21] <gasper> hey!! I need a solution - have a pst file in Ubuntu 7.04, and would like to impirt into thunderbird... please :S
[06:22] <jman_> Hi does anyone what port 38542 is used for
[06:22] <antidrugue> !repeat | gasper
[06:22] <ubotu> gasper: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:22] <askar> antidrugue: nothing happens when I press those keys..0xf5 is the help button
[06:22] <zani> if i may or can someone point me in the right directions, i struggle with a small script to automaticly add the new default gw, when i use wvdial, i've already gotten the ip address(with a ifconfig ppp0 and some greps and cuts) but i can't seem to execute the route command with the ip in the file
[06:22] <linuxboy_> I have 2 CDroms in my PC.  What should my /etc/fstab look like for them in feisty ?
[06:22] <stealth_> any idea on how to get the fglrx thing working?
[06:22] <deafboy> bullgard5: any idea on why theme manager is broken? this is a stock install = /
[06:22] <mc44> stealth_: could you paste your xorg.conf file to the pastebin?
[06:22] <lontra> stealth_: you could install envy and use that?
[06:22] <psycop> How do i install a network printer on Ubuntu?
[06:22] <stealth_> yep ok
[06:22] <antidrugue> askar: what kind of keyboard do you have ?
[06:22] <stefg> linuxboy_: depends o which adapter they are, and if they are mastr or slave
[06:22] <Matir> gasper, have you tried using thunderbird's "import" option?  (just a guess)
[06:23] <El_Burro> if i have twu ubuntu installs and want to pass the line out of one through the second one (where the speakers and amp are) is there an easy way?
[06:23] <linuxboy_> stefg: one master, one slave. ide
[06:23] <askar> antidrugue: laptopkeyboard.. HPnx9020
[06:23] <dyrne> !cups | psycop
[06:23] <ubotu> psycop: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:23] <stefg> linuxboy_: so they are /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd ?
[06:23] <zouzou85> hi guys
[06:23] <linuxboy_> stefg: they were until I installed feisty
[06:24] <stefg> linuxboy_: cdroms are still /dev -nodes .... no UUID :-)
[06:24] <zouzou85> how do i get the icon on the panel to change the language of the keyboard?
[06:24] <linuxboy_> stefg: they are scd1 and scd0
[06:24] <antidrugue> askar: see the keyboard section there:
[06:24] <antidrugue> askar: http://grafit.mchtr.pw.edu.pl/~szczedar/other_nx9020-en.php
[06:24] <forngren> how can I check my local IP?
[06:24] <stefg> linuxboy_: ah... yes
[06:24] <zouzou85> is there an app that i need to install?
[06:24] <linuxboy_> forngren: ip addr show
[06:25] <bluefox83> even forngren ifconfig
[06:25] <zani> if i may or can someone point me in the right directions, i struggle with a small script to automaticly add the new default gw, when i use wvdial, i've already gotten the ip address(with a ifconfig ppp0 and some greps and cuts) but i can't seem to execute the route command with the ip in the file
[06:25] <bluefox83> sdr;gih aefrg;iukharg;airh
[06:25] <bluefox83> yeah, uh...
[06:25] <antidrugue> askar: put those 5 mentioned lines in /etc/rc.local (sekeycodes...) and reboot
[06:25] <bluefox83> ifconfig
[06:25] <linuxboy_> zani: wvdial should be able to add teh default route
[06:25] <zani> linux boy how do i do that ?
[06:25] <stealth_> where is the pastebin?
[06:25] <dyrne> zani: route add default gw ipaddress  doesnt work?
[06:25] <BobSongs> antidrugue, If you haven't had a chance to read the tutorial and wish to do it later, PM me at ubuntuforums.org. Again: we can chat there. It'll take it off this channel which, again, I'm sure is of no interest to anyone here.
[06:25] <sam4563> how do i beautify my grub menu and multinest my gnome menu?
[06:25] <mc44> !paste | stealth_
[06:25] <ubotu> stealth_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:25] <linuxboy_> zani: I don't know.  but i'm sure it can do it
[06:25] <stefg> linuxboy_: but it's still the standard options /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:25] <zani> dyrne yes it does but i need to get the dynamic ip from ppp0
[06:26] <bullgard5> deafboy: My theme manager in Ubuntu 7.04 is not broken. I suppose that yours is broken due to bad Gnome programming. But this will probably not help you very much. Sorry that I cannot help more.
[06:26] <stealth_> ok thanks
[06:26] <zani> i have the ip via soem greps and cut commands
[06:26] <linuxboy_> stefg: what should cdrom1 and cdrom2 look like ?
[06:26] <zani> i  direct the ip to a file
[06:26] <antidrugue> BobSongs: your tutorial is great, but really i would have to try it to really understand the underlyings of it
[06:26] <zani> but i don't know how to execute route add default gw <add ip form file here>
[06:26] <deafboy> bullgard5: atm edgy had few bugs, thought maybe i'd upgrade to feisty = / but dont see any benefits to feisty atm
[06:26] <deafboy> bullgard5: just bugs XD
[06:26] <Hugo> deafboy well start using bluetooth and youll see
[06:27] <antidrugue> BobSongs: and since I'm not really a Ubuntu users, that would be hard (using Debian Etch here)
[06:27] <Hugo> and also I get my dvb card support native
[06:27] <sam4563> how do i beautify my grub menu and multinest my gnome menu?
[06:27] <bobstro> sam4563:  there is the grub-splashimages package.
[06:27] <stealth_> hey, the link is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17415/
[06:27] <stefg> linuxboy_: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 | /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto   0       0  ( i think)
[06:27] <dyrne> zani: i often use xargs like: grep something | xargs -i route add default gw {}
[06:27] <N3xtGeN> hi everybody, I see there`s a lot of people, nice to see you all
[06:27] <linuxboy_> stefg: then cdrom1 can't play DVDs
[06:27] <deafboy> Hugo: feisty live cd won't even boot in my computer, vesa tries my screen rez (1280x960) and fails and then crashes lol XD
[06:27] <bullgard5> deafboy: Yes, probably just Gnome bugs. --  But Feisty has made a great progress in hardware recognition compared with Edgy!
[06:28] <deafboy> bullgard5: i would agree with that
[06:28] <sam4563> bobstro: thanks
[06:28] <askar> antidrugue:  before or after exit 0?
[06:28] <stefg> linuxboy_: hmm might be a missing link /dev/dvd to /dev/scd1
[06:28] <Dazz> Hey guys.  Can anyone recommend a good newsgroup reader for Ubuntu 7.04?
[06:28] <zani> dyrne i'll give it a try thanx man
[06:28] <mc44> deafboy: you have an ATI x something card, right?
[06:28] <teckfatt> Hugo: so how is the nfs?
[06:28] <antidrugue> askar: before, each "setkeycodes..." on its own line
[06:28] <bobstro> Dazz:  pan perhaps
[06:28] <linuxboy_> stefg: I have 2 DVD roms.   can I link both ?
[06:28] <dyrne> zani: its very handy.
[06:28] <Hugo> teckfatt:  its working finally
[06:28] <Hugo> dont really know why
[06:28] <Hugo> it just started working
[06:28] <bobstro> Dazz:  do you want to read, or snarf binaries?
[06:28] <stefg> linuxboy_: lemme check for a howto
[06:28] <Hugo> teckfatt:  thanks for the help
[06:28] <deafboy> mc44: yes, and i filed the bug report
[06:28] <linuxboy_> stefg: k
[06:28] <mc44> deafboy: its a known bug :p
[06:29] <teckfatt> Hugo: what is the problem actually?
[06:29] <mc44> deafboy: you can install using the alternate CD
[06:29] <Dazz> bobstro: mostly binaries... gotta keep my mame cabinet updated.
[06:29] <Hugo> teckfatt:  no problem anymore
[06:29] <antidrugue> askar: so it looks something like that : http://antidrugue.dyndns.org/config.linux/config.killah/rc.local
[06:29] <mc44> deafboy: ah, now I remember talking to you about this before, sorry :)
[06:29] <Hugo> its solved (dont know how but its working)
[06:29] <deafboy> mc44: was hoping feisty would configure my hdaintel card out of hte box, but no such luck :P
[06:29] <bobstro> Dazz:  pan is great for that. what group do you get mame roms from? i stupidly deleted mine.
[06:30] <deafboy> mc44: yep this weas like a week before feisty relese
[06:30] <teckfatt> Hugo: cool....
[06:30] <mc44> deafboy: so you got it working? :)
[06:30] <antidrugue> deafboy: it does for me... Intel HDA sound ?
[06:30] <deafboy> mc44: yeah the fglrx driver runs
[06:30] <mc44> deafboy: the hdaintel is a known bug too, and it will be fixed in a kernel update
[06:30] <tyger> hello room... anyone have CUPS break after the last update?
[06:30] <deafboy> antidrugue: yep Intel HDA, doesnt wor out of the box but i can get it working
[06:30] <antidrugue> deafboy: oh, ok
[06:31] <aro> !alsa
[06:31] <deafboy> antidrugue: does yours work out of the box?
[06:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:31] <stealth_> hmm so is there anything different in the xorg?
[06:31] <stefg> linuxboy_: can't find one quick, but common sense says that you prolly either need to setup the second as a link to /dev/dvd0, or point your player to /dev/scd1 directly
[06:31] <antidrugue> deafboy: yes, on my laptop it does (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04))
[06:31] <MrBashir> how is it that after turning the ristricted ati driver on i can only get 1024x768?
[06:32] <du> hi all, where can i found ubuntu kernel-soirce?
[06:32] <deafboy> mc44: any idea when this kernel update is coming =)
[06:32] <deafboy> du: kernel.org =)
[06:32] <mc44> deafboy: when its ready :)
[06:32] <antidrugue> du: why would you need that? you want to compile a kernel?
[06:32] <Wagz> good morning
[06:32] <XanSama> anybody know how to mount a WinCE device and browse its filesystem?
[06:32] <antidrugue> du: "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6" if you really need it
[06:32] <du> deafboy, no, i need UBUNTU kernel sources, not vanilla
[06:33] <antidrugue> du: i just answered that
[06:33] <linuxboy_> du: there is a package for it.  I just can't figure out where...
[06:33] <du> antidrugue, i need it because a need to compile a module and overwrite
[06:33] <antidrugue> du: i repeat : "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6"
[06:33] <N3xtGeN> I`ve just downloaded my copy of Ubuntu 7.04 desktop version and when I tried to boot, there was a screen with options, I`d like to install Ubuntu on hard drive, but when I`ve chosen first option "Start or Install" at point of checking hardware inicialising program has given error on something from Intel, I think it`s graphic card i830M- I have HP OmniBook XE3, can anybody help me? I`d really appre
[06:33] <du> antidrugue, ok thx :)
[06:33] <linuxboy_> du: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20
[06:33] <AngryElf_> 7.04 wont' install on my box -- as the Ubuntu logo is displayed it cyts to an errors -- "/bash/sh can't access tty; job control turned off" -- then a bunch of errors about ata5 ... :(
[06:33] <antidrugue> du: to compile a module, no you dont need it, kernel-headers are sufficient, and they are preinstalled
[06:34] <antidrugue> du: you only need kernel sources to compile a kernel
[06:34] <du> antidrugue, no i need to compile a module, insert it in sources and comple all
[06:34] <zenfan74> may i post a screenie ?
[06:34] <zouzou85> how do i get the icon on the panel to change the language of the keyboard?
[06:34] <antidrugue> du: which module ?
[06:35] <AngryElf_> A/join #hardware
[06:35] <N3xtGeN> I`ve just downloaded my copy of Ubuntu 7.04 desktop version and when I tried to boot, there was a screen with options, I`d like to install Ubuntu on hard drive, but when I`ve chosen first option "Start or Install" at point of checking hardware inicialising program has given error on something from Intel, I think it`s graphic card i830M- I have HP OmniBook XE3, can anybody help me? I`d really appre
[06:35] <du> module from a 2.6.21 nedeed o get work a chip for lm-sensors
[06:35] <Kaue> ?
[06:35] <soothsay> Where does pppoeconf configure the automatic startup (at boot) of a pppoe provider?
[06:35] <robbbbbb> hey, can anybody tell me where my garbage is
[06:35] <soothsay> robbbbbb: ~/.Trash
[06:36] <robbbbbb> thanxi ^^
[06:36] <Pelo> robbbbbb,   /home/user/.Trash
[06:36] <robbbbbb> ty again (x
[06:36] <Dazz> bobstro: For MAME I use a mix of torrents from http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk and alt.bin.emu.mame
[06:36] <dyrne> robbbbbb: ls -a to see the .hidden files
[06:36] <stefg> robbbbbb: between your ears :-) SCNR
[06:36] <linuxboy_> robbbbbb: ~/.Trash
[06:36] <stealth_> hey, i also found this: DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal fc fglrx ltm nv"     should i remove the ath_hal part and stuff?
[06:36] <robbbbbb> OK i got it now :D
[06:36] <dalexandre> When i enable Desktop Effects the window borders dissapear how can i fix this?
[06:36] <beerockxs> I just started using Xgl on Ubuntu using fglrx with BigDesktop, and just have one problem. when I maximize a window, it maximizes across both screens, not just across one, like in normal X
[06:36] <Pelo> robbbbbb,  please stop hogging all the help
[06:36] <beerockxs> also, gnome panels span across both screens, not just across one.
[06:36] <beerockxs> anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[06:37] <mc44> stealth_: try just fglrx
[06:37] <mc44> stealth_: just removing that is
[06:37] <antidrugue> beerocks: that's what compiz does, beryl fixes that
[06:37] <stealth_> ok ill try thanks
[06:37] <dalexandre> When i enable Desktop Effects the window borders dissapear how can i fix this?
[06:37] <pball> /leave
[06:37] <elyseum>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[06:37] <Pelo> beerockxs,   try asking in #ubuntu-effetcs,  I assume you are using the destop effects
[06:38] <Pelo> dalexandre,  you need to select a different theme
[06:38] <beerockxs> Pelo: well, it also happens when using Xgl without Compiz or Beryl.
[06:38] <beerockxs> antidrugue: I am using Bery.
[06:38] <dalexandre> Pelo where i can change the theme?
[06:38] <pball> /leave #ubuntu
[06:38] <Pelo> beerockxs, I don'T know then
[06:38] <stealth_> hmm i got this: "Found fglrx primary sevice section" "nothing to do, terminating"
[06:38] <antidrugue> beerockxs: which video card? i don't have this problem with an NVIDIA + Beryl
[06:39] <Pelo> dalexandre,  try right clicking the beryl  icon,  or ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:39] <Pelo> later folks,
[06:39] <antidrugue> beerocks: but i'm not using XGL though
[06:39] <mc44> AngryElf_: try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106864/comments/13
[06:39] <beerockxs> antidrugue: Ati X1900GT, I think it's a problem with XGl, though
[06:39] <tarzan> how to use icq
[06:39] <aro> Does anyone know which channel in alsamixer I need to mute in order to disable my microphone input immediately playing back through my headphones?
[06:39] <antidrugue> beerocks: unortunately you have to use XGL for desktop effects with your ATI cards
[06:39] <aro> I still want to record, I just don't want it to playback through my headset.
[06:39] <aixing> sorry a little excited
[06:39] <beerockxs> antidrugue: yeah, I know :(
[06:40] <antidrugue> beerocks: but try #ubuntu-effects
[06:40] <beerockxs> antidrugue: I'll do just that
[06:40] <Wagz> Is there a link for use of the install disk's partitioner? I'm trying to set up a dual boot with my existing Windows XP and the link (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows) doesn't tell me all the options I need
[06:41] <antidrugue> wagz: just install windows first, and leave unpartitionned disk space at the end of the drive, for Ubuntu to install itself
[06:41] <aixing> wagz: have you tried it already?.. ya what he said
[06:41] <aixing> unbuntu will give you the option to use remaining disk space
[06:42] <antidrugue> wagz: just use something like GParted LiveCD if you need to resize your existing partitions (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php)
[06:42] <stealth_> is there anyone that can remotely connect to my PC and install driver stuff and beryl?
[06:42] <Wagz> i have an existing winxp machine...I tried it, and went to the manual option of partioning a drive, but when I went to set up the partition, it asked whether I wanted ext3, ntfs (and others) type of partition. any ideas?
[06:42] <eXtreme_> anyone knows if there is a program for gnome that puts your console on desktop like this: http://static.flickr.com/44/127836732_1f2d7208f9_o.png?
[06:42] <antidrugue> stealth: with SSH
[06:42] <vak> I'd need a password-free restricted account for my daughter, like she has had in windows. all accounts in ubuntu feisty seem to be with passwords :( anyone could give a hint?
[06:42] <Wagz> antidrugue: thanks, i'll go download gparted
[06:43] <Wagz> aixing: ty as well
[06:43] <kahrytan> Hello
[06:43] <stealth_> antidrugue: from www.ssh.com?
[06:43] <antidrugue> vak: no choice but to have a password, you can enable autologin though : "gksudo gdmsetup"
[06:44] <antidrugue> stealth: ssh is preinstalled in Ubuntu
[06:44] <Hugo> vak I think all acount has pasword
[06:44] <antidrugue> stealth: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#SSH_Server
[06:44] <vak> hugo it is like antidrugue sais
[06:44] <davidwinter> hi all.
[06:44] <davidwinter> is vnc server installed on ubuntu by deffault?
[06:44] <davidwinter> default*
[06:44] <kahrytan> antirugu: That's why SSH is a blocked port in Ipchains.
[06:44] <Yasuo> namd
[06:44] <Hugo> vak why is that such a problem give her the same pasword as the id. For example: login: daughter pasword: daughter
[06:45] <vak> she is 3 years old, she can read already, but only in russian now
[06:46] <dyrne> vak: she's got to learn about underlying computer system infrastructure and security policies sometime. :)
[06:46] <antidrugue> davidwinter: i don't think so: install whichever you prefer "vnc4server" or "tightvncserver"
[06:46] <marek> Hello all, please do you know what is the name of problem that shows the notice about full disk space on ubuntu, please?
[06:46] <bloodMuffin> help please grub is giving me error 17 after i copied my old partition to a new one
[06:46] <davidwinter> antidrugue: is there one you'd recommend? I don't have a preference
[06:46] <stealth_> antidrugue: ok its installed, how do i use it?
[06:46] <vak> dyrne: she will, but maybe when she will be 4 years old :)
[06:47] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: check /boot/grub/menu.lst : it is pointing to the wrong root partition
[06:47] <antidrugue> davidwinter: i don't know really, personnaly i go with "tightvncserver" because it is GPL
[06:47] <soothsay> How do I save my iptables config so that it is always loaded at boot?
[06:47] <antidrugue> davidwinter: and it has more compression options
[06:48] <davidwinter> ok thanks
[06:48] <stealth_> antidrugue: i installed SSH how do i use it now?
[06:48] <AlexLatchford> Howdy guys, anyone know how to rename computers? ie. in the terminal the commands are prepended by 'user@computer:~$', anyone know how to change the computer bit?
[06:48] <antidrugue> stealth: something like "ssh your_username@computer_ip"
[06:48] <sebas_> vak: take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=142273
[06:49] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: what exactly needs to be changed and to what? i tried using df / but its not giving me a partition name...do i need to mount the partition as root or something?
[06:49] <antidrugue> stealth: it is explained in the link i gave you
[06:49] <stealth_> oh ok and the person connects to my PC from there?
[06:49] <dyrne> AlexLatchford: edit your /etc/hosts file and the command sudo hostname whatever as well. might want to sudo passwd first to enable root because messing up hostname can screw up sudo
[06:49] <AngryElf_> is the upgrade tool known to be broken right now?  it says there is an authentication problem
[06:50] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: you should have a line like "root            (hd0,1)" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <AlexLatchford> dyrne: ta
[06:50] <stealth_> who will be able to take control then?
[06:50] <AngryElf_> or do I have to upgrade Edgy before I can update to Feisty?
[06:50] <tarzan> does anyone knows how to write another language in this os
[06:50] <antidrugue> (hd0,1) meaning /dev/sda2
[06:50] <Hugo> Hi, is there any problem to share a folder in capital letters like MAXTOR with nfs?
[06:50] <antidrugue> (hd0,2) for /dev/sda3 , etc.
[06:50] <Dazz> ok, so far so good... I'm really starting to enjoy Ubuntu.  Now... does anyone happen to have a good tutorial on getting WoW to run?
[06:51] <teckfatt> Hugo: ya
[06:51] <teckfatt> Hugo: no problem with capital letter
[06:51] <Hugo> teckfatt:  ok
[06:51] <Dazz> !wine
[06:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:51] <dyrne> Dazz: id do a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org world of warcraft'
[06:52] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[06:52] <Hugo> teckfatt:  then I dont get it I am sharing two usb hd to the other computer. One is shared without problem the other isnt. The only diference is that one is called "disk" and the other is called "MAXTOR"
[06:52] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: thanks ill try this
[06:52] <Hugo> and disk works and MAXTOR refuses to be share
[06:53] <Hugo> it sais server rejects conection
[06:53] <Hugo> but its shared with the same options as the other
[06:53] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: perhaps google knows easier toturial, like using "grub-install ..."
[06:53] <Hugo> I dont get it
[06:53] <main2> anyone using jedit?
[06:54] <stealth_> the binary drivers for ATI arnt working, anyone got an idea how to fix it??
[06:54] <main2> i tried to aptget it on dapper, but its all errors what i end up with............
[06:54] <main2> stealth_, go #ati :P
[06:54] <teckfatt> Hugo: what is the file system of two usb hd?
[06:54] <Supre_Me> Hello, one quick question: How do I empty my trash as root?
[06:54] <dyrne> Supre_Me: rm -f /home/username/.Trash/*  i guess
[06:55] <tarzan> we all ask. nobody answer
[06:55] <main2> .trash / or .Trash .. dont have either here
[06:55] <antidrugue> Supre_Me: or "gksudo nautilus" will give you a root powered file manager
[06:55] <teckfatt> Hugo: what u mean called here??? is disk label or the /address/path?
[06:55] <dyrne> Supre_Me: use -rf instead
[06:55] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: thanks im gonna try rebooting now, the tutorial was pretty simple
[06:55] <Hugo> teckfatt:  disk (the one working) is ext3 and MAXTOR (not working) is ntfs, but I have installed the ntfs read/write packages and they are working
[06:56] <Hugo> teckfatt:  path and name
[06:56] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: cool
[06:56] <Hugo> both
[06:56] <stealth_> i cant find the ATI irc for linux
[06:56] <infidel> tarzan, in what app?
[06:56] <main2> stealth_, second time go > #ati
[06:56] <carlos_> hello
[06:56] <main2> ./join #ati
[06:56] <antidrugue> stealth: what do you mean, driver not working? did you try System->Administration->Restricted Drivers ?
[06:56] <infidel> how come there isn't an easy way to change the color of desktop fonts, or is there?
[06:57] <teckfatt> Hugo: i not sure about ntfs....to share over nfs....i need to check 1st
[06:57] <stealth_> where do i do it?
[06:57] <tarzan> i can not use another language  .would u help me ?
[06:57] <main2> anyone running jedit on dapper?
[06:57] <Supre_Me> dyrne, thanks, that worked
[06:57] <antidrugue> tarzan: what do you mean ?
[06:57] <Hugo> teckfatt:  is it posible that only one mount is allowed? because now that I have "disk" mounted I am trying to mount a random folder that before was working and sais that server refuses
[06:57] <eltese> Hi! I wonder why my dvd-image wont work... I downloaded the iso (feisty) and burned it as a dvd-image.. But it wont boot. So I cant see the install screen
[06:57] <Hugo> teckfatt:  sais server:permision denied
[06:57] <eltese> anyone who knows why it is like that? =/
[06:58] <antidrugue> eltese: did you check the md5sum before burning it ?
[06:58] <DSpair> Anyone here good with Subversion?
[06:58] <DSpair> I'm having a strange problem.
[06:58] <tgm4883> eltese, is your computer set with the first boot device as the cdrom (dvdrom in you case)
[06:58] <teckfatt> Hugo: u can mount as many as u want...is the permission u need to set it correctly
[06:58] <Schalken> isnt open week supposed to be on right now?
[06:58] <eltese> I dont know really.. it would explain alot if it isnt ^_^
[06:59] <eltese> going to check it right now
[06:59] <velko> infidel, it's a long story. the gnome devs are trying hard to clean up the interface removing everything most people don't need. if are the control freak you may give kde a shot
[06:59] <diabolix> why is it that most of the packages in synaptic can't be authenticated?
[07:00] <tgm4883> diabolix, did you change the sources.list?
[07:00] <antidrugue> diabolix : System->Administration->Software Sources
[07:00] <diabolix> no.. i just did a fresh install
[07:00] <Hugo> teckfatt I mount one thing, then unmount it, then I mount another thing, then I try to mount the first one and it doesnt work
[07:00] <infidel> velko, na, i'll stick with gnome. i'll just edit it by hand. thanks for the response
[07:01] <diabolix> so... what do i do there?
[07:01] <Peggerr> is is possible to do bandwith limiting based on ip, so say I have a router doing nat for 50 diffrent clients, I want to allow each client to do a max of 200KB of traffic
[07:01] <diabolix> i mean.. fresh install, i'd assume this should be correct already. i didn't do anything to it...
[07:01] <bloodMuffin> thanks it works now
[07:01] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: how did it go ?
[07:01] <teckfatt> Hugo: what is the error msg when u mount back the '1st thing'
[07:01] <Hugo> Peggerr:  sure its posible you just have to find the right program (wich I dont know
[07:01] <Hugo> )
[07:01] <Hugo> Xd
[07:01] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: great!
[07:01] <tgm4883> diabolix, im not sure what antidrugue wants you to do in there
[07:02] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: ive been trying for like two days to fix it and the fix was only 3 commands haha
[07:02] <Hugo> teckfatt:  failed, reason given by server:Permision denied
[07:02] <Peggerr> Hugo: yaha exactly, I have found examples, but they where only for limiting by device
[07:02] <stellaras> hi there is there any software for linux(i have ubuntu), that can help me do this?(recover a folder i had on windows xp desktop before a format)
[07:02] <stellaras> ?
[07:02] <tgm4883> diabolix, have you tried a apt-get update?
[07:02] <antidrugue> tgm4883: not sure either, but the PGP keys can be added/removed from there, so...
[07:02] <diabolix> tgm4883, i will now.
[07:02] <tgm4883> ah
[07:02] <pyggzh> hah, just installed Operation Flashpoint on wine and it moves even goddamned faster than on wndows ... how can you explain that?
[07:02] <teckfatt> Hugo: did u put sudo in front the mount?
[07:02] <tgm4883> diabolix, try the update then installing whatever you want to install
[07:03] <Hugo> yes
[07:03] <ciscosurfer> diabolix: all of your sources in your sources.list file are the default ones that come with a base-install?  Otherwise, check them over, and make sure none of them require that you set up gpg signing/authentication.
[07:03] <Hugo> teckfatt:  yes
[07:03] <bloodMuffin> hm although now i notice my memory used as cache is much lower than before...is that bad?
[07:03] <tgm4883> pyggzh, easy, windows sucks
[07:03] <moonwatcher> hello
[07:03] <AngryElf_> this channel has turned into a bunch of "how do I play wow" and "how do I get root in ybuntu" --serious questions have no room in here anymore :(
[07:03] <diabolix> tgm4883, ok.. out of curiousity.. is there a way to do that graphically? i'm mostly using ubuntu so that i will understand it when it comes time to help a relative.
[07:03] <pyggzh> tgm4883: you got a point here
[07:04] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: you mean from Edgy to Feisty ?
[07:04] <nibsa1242b> Now that I have Fiesty, my printers no longer show up in open office. How do I fix?
[07:04] <moonwatcher> can anyone tell me if there is a chance an ATI 9600 will give me TV out with the xorg drivers?
[07:04] <ciscosurfer> diabolix: go to Synaptic and choose update
[07:04] <antidrugue> nibsa1242b: System->Administration->Printers
[07:04] <cyberAck> is there any web interface to control a gateway under ubuntu
[07:04] <teckfatt> Hugo: back to the NTFS with nfs.....if i not wrong there is another type read/write option for ntfs driver u need to find it out....
[07:04] <Hugo> moonwatcher it should have you tried?
[07:04] <tgm4883> diabolix, I think* in synaptic if you hit reload it is the same thing
[07:04] <nibsa1242b> antidrugue all my other applications have the printer list, its just open office where they don't show up
[07:04] <stellaras> AngryElf: i have a serious question.....is there any software for linux(i have ubuntu), that can help me do this?(recover a folder i had on windows xp desktop before a format)
[07:05] <Hugo> teckfatt:  ok, but first of all I need to solve the mounting more than one thing
[07:05] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: hm not too sure when it changed...ill look into it for awhile
[07:05] <Hugo> teckfatt:  thanks for the help
[07:05] <antidrugue> nibsa1242b: hum... not sure than
[07:05] <soothsay> Anybody know of a tool (not Acrobat) that can convert PDF to PDF/A (PDF/Archive)?
[07:05] <ciscosurfer> tgm4883, diabolix: sorry, I meant 'reload'...tgm4883, thanks for catching that :-)
[07:05] <bloodMuffin> antidrugue: o one more thing sorry, my ntfs partitions are no longer mounted
[07:05] <nibsa1242b> antidrugue I guess I'll try reinstalling open office
[07:05] <teckfatt> Hugo: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/baslinux/2004-November/005616.html check this out
[07:05] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: use "preload" if you want to increase the cache use
[07:05] <tgm4883> pyggzh, also, it depends on the version of windows, the hardware in the computer, etc
[07:06] <tgm4883> ciscosurfer, no
[07:06] <tgm4883> prob
[07:06] <ciscosurfer> :-)
[07:06] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: http://technowizah.com/2006/11/debian-how-to-writing-to-ntfs.html
[07:06] <tgm4883> dang fingers are getting ahead of me
[07:06] <grego22> hello there
[07:06] <ciscosurfer> i completely
[07:06] <ciscosurfer> understand
[07:06] <WoozleWork> Hi
[07:06] <moonwatcher> Hugo:  i am not sure about what do i need to put in the xorg.conf
[07:06] <grego22> im trying to install xgl or aixgl or compiz or beryl but im having problems with ATI XPRESS 200M
[07:07] <pyggzh> tgm4883: well im just surprised :) now to finally get the sound working properly :D
[07:07] <moonwatcher> Hugo: and looking at wikis around the web looks discouraging :(
[07:07] <nibsa1242b> Anyone else have any ideas? (this is in Feisty) My printers show up in all my applications except Open Office which just has Generic printer in its list.
[07:07] <antidrugue> bloodMuffin: so just the proper line in /etc/fstab should do it, with either "ntfs" or "ntfs-3g" partition type
[07:07] <moonwatcher> i do get output on my vga secondery
[07:07] <moonwatcher> INSTEAD of the main
[07:07] <grego22> im trying to install xgl or aixgl or compiz or beryl but im having problems with ATI XPRESS 200M
[07:07] <moonwatcher> and at max 600x800
[07:07] <nibsa1242b> grego22, its probably hopeless... because you'd most likely need to go the XGL route and I've found XGL to be unstable on that hardware, but good luck to you
[07:07] <tgm4883> pyggzh, yea there are a few things that work better in wine than windows.  I think alot of it has to do with libraries and such
[07:07] <moonwatcher> but i am not sure how to configure xorg.conf
[07:07] <WoozleWork> I have a noobish question concerning gaming in wine, specifically what would most of you recommend for the minimum system requirements to get a smooth look, in both graphics and response time...specifically World of warcraft
[07:08] <shawn34> anyway to prob a laptop monitor to see what its max resolution is?
[07:08] <nevermind> !nvu
[07:08] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[07:08] <WoozleWork> the system I am currently hoping to use is a Dell Inspiron 1501, with 1 gig of ram shared with the video card for a total 256 megs of video memory, and amd turion x2
[07:08] <Dazz> !xgl
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:08] <teckfatt> Hugo: u try to restart the nfs-kernel-server $ sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[07:09] <teckfatt> Hugo: then mount again
[07:09] <tgm4883> woozlework, what video card?
[07:09] <Hugo> moonwatcher:  I did it long ago and I dont remember who to enable that, but it wasnt that bad
[07:09] <nevermind> ping tonyyarusso
[07:09] <Dazz> !aixgl
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <WoozleWork> umm I think its the ati that comes with the inspiron 1501s
[07:09] <WoozleWork> I'd have to go back and double check
[07:09] <antidrugue> !aiglx | Dazz
[07:09] <ubotu> Dazz: AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[07:09] <TTRanger> anyone have opinions about whether ubuntu or kubuntu is better?
[07:09] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I see, so there is no way I am going to be able to share a ntfs hd through nfs
[07:09] <Hugo> Ill have to use samba
[07:10] <salak> could anyone please help me with  my usb modem?
[07:10] <salak> how do i configure it
[07:10] <vicentiCO_> Hello
[07:10] <tgm4883> TTRanger, they are the same, just your preferences on a window manager differ
[07:10] <Hugo> What I dont get is why the server can read and write in the ntfs hd but the client wont...
[07:10] <antidrugue> TTRanger: we all have opinions... but it is a matter of personal preferences
[07:10] <WoozleWork> it looks to be the ati radeon xpress 1150
[07:10] <TTRanger> tgm4883 What is it about kubuntu that makes it preferable to some people?
[07:10] <vicentiCO_> somebody knows a tool for test my computer?
[07:10] <Crav> how can i find out my MAC adress?
[07:10] <tgm4883> TTRanger, they perfer KDE to Gnome
[07:10] <antidrugue> TTRanger: KDE vs GNOME
[07:11] <salak> could anyone please help me with  my usb modem?
[07:11] <salak> how do i configure it
[07:11] <antidrugue> Crav: "sudo ifconfig"
[07:11] <WoozleWork> (tgm4883): any suggestions?
[07:11] <velko> stellaras, you may have a look at testdisk (and maybe gddrescue). there was another good tool but i can't remember it's name
[07:11] <teckfatt> Hugo: u can check the smbclient that mention on that site
[07:11] <tgm4883> TTRanger, those are the only differences, if you install ubuntu, you can install kubuntu by "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:11] <Whtiger> hey guys
[07:11] <dyrne> Crav: also cat /etc/iftab
[07:11] <vicentiCO_> somebody knows a tool for test my computer?
[07:11] <tgm4883> TTranger, its the same the other way around kubuntu to ubuntu
[07:12] <Si|ent> Hello all
[07:12] <ciscosurfer> vicentiCO_: what kind of test?
[07:12] <antidrugue> vicentiCO: test for what ?
[07:12] <Si|ent> this is my first time using ubuntu
[07:12] <vicentiCO_> a stress test
[07:12] <Si|ent> and im wondering how could i setup internet sharing
[07:12] <tgm4883> WoozleWork, sorry, i dont play world of warcraft, i simply asked because if someone can help you, they will need to know that
[07:12] <ciscosurfer> vicentiCO_: hit it and see if it complains
[07:12] <vicentiCO_> like burning test in windows
[07:12] <WoozleWork> :(
[07:12] <tgm4883> Woozlework, im not even sure if your card is fully supported under linux
[07:12] <Crav> dyrne: thanks very much, exactly what i needded
[07:12] <Si|ent> i've managed to set up the static ip correctly.. and i could ping myself from host/client perfectly though theres no connection on the client (ubuntu)
[07:12] <Hugo> teckfatt:  I am guessing smbclient is samba client, so samba sharing
[07:12] <ciscosurfer> vicentiCO_: like benchmark tests?
[07:12] <tgm4883> woozlework, but that is where i would start
[07:12] <vicentiCO_> yes
[07:12] <WoozleWork> I got it working, there is a nice walkthrough
[07:13] <salak> could anyone please help me with  my usb modem?
[07:13] <salak> how do i configure it
[07:13] <WoozleWork> http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/index.html
[07:13] <dyrne> Si|ent: text way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[07:13] <ciscosurfer> vicentiCO_: that's a good question.  i don't know. :-(
[07:13] <moonwatcher> Hugo: maybe you can pastebin your xorg and throw me a bone :)
[07:13] <albacker> I CREATED a vmachine with WINXP in it.. i shared a folder and i cant see it from UBUNTU any one has any idea ? THANKS !
[07:13] <vicentiCO_> test for know hardware fails
[07:13] <slashus2> I was wondering if it is common for your cursor to hang and skip when your computer is under heavy load?
[07:13] <nadsondejesus> s
[07:13] <WoozleWork> that does a nice job of installing ubuntu on a inspiron 1501
[07:13] <Si|ent> dyrne thank you ill check it :)
[07:13] <nevermind> Si|ent: have you set up the DNS on the client?
[07:13] <Whtiger> I get "dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system" when running `sudo dpkg --configure -a`. I was running `sudo apt-get upgrade` and it errored when trying to delete some things e.g.: "failed to delete `//usr/sbin/deluser.dpkg-tmp': Read-only file system"
[07:13] <antidrugue> ok, bye everyone, i'm going to play under the sun now, ciao
[07:13] <trumpeter2003> How to change default output sound?
[07:13] <Hugo> moonwatcher:  not using analog any more
[07:13] <Si|ent> nevermind no havent set up the dns!
[07:13] <Hugo> my xorg.conf wont help you
[07:13] <ciscosurfer> vicentiCO_: i think hdparm takes care of hard *drive* failure, etc.  but best to ask around
[07:13] <Si|ent> nevermind i only set the default gateway and ip
[07:14] <yxairyggen> When i run 'xinit -- :1' it says X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[07:14] <nevermind> Si|ent: that should probably be, w/o DNS you can't resolve hostnames
[07:14] <WoozleWork> (tgm4883): and its not that I can't get it working, but the response time is slow, so I was trying to improve it
[07:14] <salak> could anyone please help me with  my usb modem?
[07:14] <salak> how do i configure it
[07:14] <teckfatt> Hugo: ya....have a try on samba
[07:14] <Si|ent> nevermind how can i know how to set up dns!
[07:14] <nevermind> Si|ent: even when the host can :)
[07:14] <yxairyggen> So how do I change the permissions so I can strat a Xserver as normal user? It works on other distros
[07:14] <TTRanger> tgm4883 How do most people "get to" the command line?  Do they assign the terminal to a hotkey or something?
[07:14] <tgm4883> Woozlework, have you gone here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:14] <Si|ent> host(xp) client (ubuntu)
[07:14] <moonwatcher> Hugo: i am having issues with dual mode in general
[07:14] <moonwatcher> like how do i control the overlay
[07:14] <Si|ent> im using kerio light on xp
[07:14] <Si|ent> would tht cause a prob ?!
[07:14] <moonwatcher> and can i have both screens on at once
[07:14] <WoozleWork> (tgm4883): I can get everything I need to run to run, including office and windows xp under vm, just tweaking now for better performance
[07:15] <tgm4883> TTranger, do you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:15] <ciscosurfer> salak: try here first > http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=ubuntu+configure+usb+modem
[07:15] <velko> yxairyggen, you tried to type "startx" in a console?
[07:15] <nevermind> Si|ent: check /etc/resolv.conf, and use nameserver [ip for the dns server] 
[07:15] <slashus2> also when the computer is under heavy load I can be typing text into a text box and it does not display for a few seconds
[07:15] <Dumahen> hi all how can i add my hdd to grub loader which has win. OS ?
[07:15] <TTRanger> tgm4883 Neither yet, I am downloading ubuntu right now for a first-time install.
[07:15] <nevermind> Si|ent: or form "System->Administration>Netowrking"
[07:15] <tgm4883> Woozlework, that link provides tweaks to help performance
[07:15] <Hugo> teckfatt:  is very weird I have restarted the computer, and only mounting one nfs device from boot (and mounts ok) and when I try to mount another random folder
[07:15] <Si|ent> nevermind ok went to system/addmin/netowkring then wht!
[07:15] <Hugo> it just doesnt work
[07:15] <nevermind> Si|ent: don't think so, but i have no clue about windows
[07:15] <WoozleWork> (tgm4883): thanks
[07:15] <yxairyggen> velko, I want another xserver in another display becuse I want to play quake3 on one display and surf and chat on an other
[07:15] <tgm4883> TTRanger, ah, just click on applications, then accessories, then terminal
[07:15] <nevermind> Si|ent: check the DNS tab and add the DNS server
[07:15] <yxairyggen> Becuse you cant tab when youre in a game normally
[07:16] <yxairyggen> And it worked with other distros
[07:16] <Si|ent> nevermind wht would the dns server be!
[07:16] <nevermind> Si|ent: should be the same as in the host
[07:16] <Si|ent> nevermind in the host its empty
[07:16] <TTRanger> tgm4883 Sure, that'd do it, though I assume people who use the command line routinely must have a quicker way to bring it up?
[07:16] <velko> yxairyggen, you can click on the "exit" button and select "switch user"
[07:16] <Dumahen> hi all how can i add my hdd to grub loader which has win. OS ?
[07:16] <yxairyggen> velko, Why whould I do that?
[07:16] <tgm4883> TTRanger, that will open a terminal inside gnome, if you need to do something in the terminal outside of gnome ctrl-alt-F1
[07:16] <nevermind> Si|ent: it cannot be empty, if it's windows, do a 'ipconfig /all' from a command line to check what's the dns
[07:16] <ciscosurfer> TTRanger: to bring what up, a terminal?
[07:16] <velko> yxairyggen, will start x on display :1
[07:17] <Si|ent> ok i will
[07:17] <Si|ent> thank you :)
[07:17] <Dumahen> !grub
[07:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:17] <yxairyggen> velko, Aha
[07:17] <nevermind> Si|ent: np
[07:17] <first2di3|out> would KDE run better on a 500mhz g3 imac w/ 128 ram, or gnome
[07:17] <teckfatt> Hugo: u need to put the /address/to/share/folder in the /etc/exports , then u can mount it with nfs
 i still couldnt find where to input my username and pass and start connection with usb modem
[07:17] <tgm4883> TTRanger, sure i could put a link on the desktop or make it a key combination, but I dont use it that much
[07:17] <salak> could you pls help?
[07:17] <reydelsillon> salsero
[07:17] <yxairyggen> velko, thanks
[07:17] <TTRanger> tgm4883 Boy do I have a lot to learn.  :-)  What does it mean to be "outside of gnome?"  Not running the desktop interface?
[07:17] <nevermind> html
[07:17] <nevermind> !html
[07:17] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:17] <dyrne> first2di3|out: as a rule kde is better for memory.  just the way apps are designed for gnome
[07:17] <ciscosurfer> TTRanger, yes, you can set up a hotkey if you go to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:17] <El_Burro> Dumahen: does you grub menu already have a windows munu item?
[07:17] <slashus2> has anyone reported this as a bug?
[07:18] <nevermind> !nvu
[07:18] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[07:18] <tgm4883> TTRanger, there is also a program called tilde but I don't know much about that other than you just hit tilde and it comes down similar to quake
[07:18] <dark112> anyone know why beryl runs like crap?
[07:18] <TTRanger> ciscosurfer thanks
[07:18] <slashus2> I think it is a problem in the kernel possibly
[07:18] <ciscosurfer> TTRanger: sure
[07:18] <nevermind> !bluefish
[07:18] <TTRanger> tgm4883 thanks
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluefish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <nevermind> !quanta+
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <TTRanger> Nice quick help...that's so good to see!
[07:18] <nevermind> !screem
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <luddite> hi I cant save the envy24control profile in ubuntu 7.04. Says "No active profile found." Any ideas?
[07:18] <nevermind> oO
[07:18] <preaction> !fishing | nevermind
[07:18] <spunk> Hello, I've a really classic problem that is quite stressfull. A friend of mine (really :-)) managed to install 7.04 on top of 6.10 and in the process loose *very* important mail in Evolution. Are there any (good) tools for a rescue attempt?
[07:18] <ubotu> nevermind: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:18] <toferrado> How do I install my wireless card driver
[07:18] <velko> nevermind, you can experiment with ubotu like that "/msg ubotu bluefish"
[07:19] <tgm4883> TTRanger, yea just not running gnome, sometimes when installing certain things it helps (graphics drivers sometimes) or you may need to restart just gnome with ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:19] <nevermind> sry, didn't know :)
[07:19] <nevermind> thanks 4 the warning
[07:19] <smf_fsl> Hi All - very quick question, I'm running Feisty and in Language support I can't switch off 'Enable support to enter complex characters', as soon as I switch it off - comes back on again.
[07:19] <NekoKun> I need a traffic monitor... any suggestion?
[07:19] <smf_fsl> Anyone have any ideas on how to switch it off for good?
[07:19] <GrosNaz> ethereal
[07:20] <BlackDesign> Does anyone know if there is a good racing game for Ubuntu?
[07:20] <GrosNaz> ethereal
[07:20] <GrosNaz> for  traffic monitor
[07:20] <nevermind> BlackDesign: TuxRace! :D
[07:20] <NekoKun> GrosNaz: does apt-get works on it?
[07:20] <toferrado> How do I install my wireless card driver?
[07:20] <GrosNaz> yep
[07:20] <BlackDesign> nevermind, I'll check it out...
[07:20] <dark112> Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I load beryl, it will black out any window I try to open, ie firefox?
[07:20] <spunk> NekoKun, a simple tty-based one: iftop
[07:21] <Dumahen> El_Burro: i added something but it said me file system unknown :S
[07:21] <nevermind> dark112: it's a bug in the nvidia drivers, try using Copy as the Render Path
[07:21] <luddite> I cant save the envy24control profile in ubuntu 7.04. Says "No active profile found." Any ideas?
[07:21] <dark112> nevermind, thanks
[07:21] <DrNick1> hey all.  has anyone else had problems getting encrypted dvd's to play in feisty?
[07:21] <BlackDesign> nevermind, how good is it?
[07:22] <nevermind> BlackDesign: oh, it's a classic
[07:22] <reydelsillon> how do i change fgrom the kubuntu desktop to the gnome one?
[07:22] <reydelsillon> is it possible?
[07:22] <nevermind> reydelsillon: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <Dumahen> El_Burro: i havent register my nickname so i cant write u on private :(
[07:22] <BlackDesign> nevermind, still haven't worked out that little logo yet... It doesn't seem to work on my icon settings
[07:23] <spunk> Q: are there any file-rescue tools available on the 7.04 live disk? A friend has lost some important emails...
[07:23] <velko> spunk, is testdisk on the livecd?
[07:23] <BlackDesign> I'm off to test that game :p
[07:24] <dark112> nevermind, that seemed to work, thanks
[07:24] <spunk> velko, dunno, I'll check it out. can testdisk find files from an "old" file system on the HDD?
[07:24] <velko> spunk, what is an old fs?
[07:24] <nevermind> dark112: welcome, but i warn you that it's quite a resource-eater, you play around with it to see if it fits you
[07:24] <velko> spunk, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:25] <spunk> velko, he installed a new file system on the disk (i bellieve)
[07:25] <spunk> velko, thanks for the link!
[07:25] <nevermind> BlackDesign: have you tried in ./icons/distributor-logo.png?
[07:25] <JoeBlack> Failed to open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such device
[07:25] <El_Burro> Dumahen:http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=434986
[07:25] <JoeBlack> however I have a /dev/ttyUSB0 i have mknod
[07:26] <reydelsillon> nevermind: thanks.
[07:26] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to istall urban terror
[07:26] <yxairyggen> I can't log in with the same user on two diferent xsessions when I click on "switch user"
[07:26] <ikarug1> hi all, just installed apache2, mysql, and php4 ... however, phpmyadmin is not working... When I go to the admin page i get a "Failed to write session data (files" error
[07:26] <reydelsillon> nevermind: will the kde desktop be un-installed or must i manually erase it?
[07:26] <yxairyggen> Does anyone know howto run nvidia in xnest?
[07:26] <nevermind> reydelsillon: you need to remove it
[07:27] <spunk> velko, I have a problem understanding the instructions. Do you know if testdisk can find individual files that has been deleted?
[07:27] <lontra_> !medibuntu
[07:27] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:27] <nevermind> reydelsillon: try aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <DrNick1> ikarug1: what user is phpmyadmin running as?
[07:27] <velko> spunk, this package contains the tool photorec which can recover files
[07:27] <ikarug1> drnick1: how do i find that out?
[07:27] <nevermind> reydelsillon: or the one that i like the most: dpkg --purge kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <CountDown> Is there an easier (or more user friendly) way to allow users to access the USB filesystem than changing /etc/fstab?
[07:27] <reydelsillon> nevermind: i willuse the konsole when i restart this thing
[07:28] <yxairyggen> It's easy to change /etc/fstab
[07:28] <tgm4883> we have to change fstab to access usb?
[07:28] <nevermind> reydelsillon: why do you want to use "konsole", you have a gnome-terminal in gnome
[07:28] <peepsalot> I want to install bogomips
[07:28] <peepsalot> where is it
[07:28] <acidtabs> can anyone help me to install urban terror
[07:28] <CountDown> yxairyggen: Yeah, but I'm curious if there's a GUI for doing such a thing.
[07:28] <DrNick1> ikarug1: the one you specify in the config files.  if you just ran it yourself from a shell, then it'll be running as your user, and your user might not have permissions to write to the config files
[07:28] <luddite> I cant save the envy24control profile in ubuntu 7.04. Says "No active profile found."
[07:28] <reydelsillon> nevermind: thats what i mean :P
[07:28] <CountDown> tgm4883: Only if you want to access the USB from user space.
[07:28] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, I have installed urbanterror in ubuntu, maybe I can help you
[07:28] <velko> peepsalot, i think in sysutils
[07:29] <BlackDesign> nevermind, great game :p
[07:29] <BlackDesign> nevermind, any other great 3D games like that?
[07:29] <acidtabs> i don't know exatly how to install it
[07:29] <mandelum> I made the panel too big, now I cannot log in anymore, because it always crashes
[07:29] <ikarug1> drnick1: huh? phpmyadmin is runs over apache2.... your question does not make sense
[07:29] <nevermind> BlackDesign: i don't play much, but i know Quake it's available 4 linux
[07:29] <dark112> is urban terror a standalone game now, or still dependent on q3?
[07:29] <ikarug1> ikaruga1: sorry...
[07:29] <CountDown> I guess editing /etc/fstab is it then.
[07:29] <mandelum> please help if you know where to change to parameter
[07:29] <yxairyggen> dark112, You can get it without q3
[07:29] <mandelum> for size
[07:29] <DrNick1> anyone else have problems playing encrypted dvd's in feisty? even after installing the extra restricted codecs
[07:29] <BlackDesign> nevermind, but that isn't free?
[07:29] <mandelum> in the gnome panel
[07:29] <nevermind> reydelsillon: you can go ahead then
[07:29] <tgm4883> Drnick1, no
[07:30] <dark112> i haven't played it since it was in beta
[07:30] <peepsalot> velko, the info on sysutils says it was removed from that package, so is it not available at all?
[07:30] <dark112> like beta 1
[07:30] <DrNick1> tgm4883: what program do you use to play them?
[07:30] <nevermind> BlackDesign: you don't have to pay for quake
[07:30] <luddite> I cant save the envy24control profile in ubuntu 7.04. Says "No active profile found."
[07:30] <velko> peepsalot, maybe
[07:30] <BlackDesign> great :)
[07:30] <yxairyggen> Is there anybody who knows how I can get rid of the "(AllTray)"-text in the window decorator in all alltrayed windows?
[07:30] <tgm4883> drnick1 totem
[07:30] <charliesu> I'd like to get bluetooth support on my desktop w/ fully linux support.  Does anyone know of a bluetooth device that plugs into USB so that I can access thing like my mobile phone and so on?
[07:30] <DrNick1> tgm4883: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[07:31] <spunk> velko, ok, thanks!
[07:31] <velko> peepsalot, i'm on debian proper and now i checked - it is there
[07:31] <xlaxis> Hi Folks. Would you say that Ubuntu 7.04 would work fine on a computer with 1,8ghz and 256mb RAM?
[07:31] <tgm4883> drnick1, totem-gstreamer
[07:31] <acidtabs> yxairyggen: how did u install it
[07:31] <spunk> velko, if it works, ill be so grateful that I'll buy you a beer. ;-)
[07:31] <tgm4883> xlaxis, yes
[07:31] <ProN00b> how do i burn a disk on gnome ?
[07:31] <nevermind> charliesu: do you want to access your device with blue* or with USB?
[07:31] <DrNick1> tgm4883: did you have to install the extra codecs to get it to play? if not are you sure its an encrypted dvd you're playing?
[07:31] <ProN00b> nvm
[07:32] <temujoe> Anyone have experience with IES4LINUX? or IE on Ubuntu? I get it running from the command line, but I can't put in local urls, because "http://" is always put in front. Anyone know a way around this?
[07:32] <spunk> velko, great :-)
[07:32] <xlaxis> tgm4883: even if it was 1,3 ghz instead of 1,8? :)
[07:32] <Presco> ProN00b: use gnomebaker software
[07:32] <dyrne> xlaxis: yes but if i was limited on memory id prob install xubuntu instead
[07:32] <xlaxis> Seems like I remembered wrong
[07:32] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, I downloaded ioUrbanTerror and UrbanTerror-full and copied into /usr/games/urt
[07:32] <xlaxis> memory like in RAM or memory like in hard drive space?
[07:32] <tgm4883> xlaxis, if your worried, you could use xubuntu
[07:32] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, I followed a swedish howto, maybe I can translate it
[07:32] <makaraki> hi there! I am a newbie and I want to do a scritpt to activate automaticly eth1(wireless)  if eth0 is down (lan)
[07:32] <tgm4883> Drnick1, yea im sure they are all encrypted as they are all commercial pressed
[07:33] <xlaxis> tgm4883: I'd rather use ubuntu to be honest.
[07:33] <tgm4883> xlaxis, video card?
[07:33] <DrNick1> tgm4883: ok, can you remember which extra stuff you had to install then? as they certainly dont play out the box....
[07:33] <xlaxis> I'm using xubuntu atm on this comuter (old laptop)
[07:33] <charliesu> nevermind: i don't have bluetooth on my desktop mobo so i need something that will allow me to have it..
[07:33] <ProN00b> is there any cli tool to checksum (md5, sfv, sha1) files ?
[07:33] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, Have you tried to install it?
[07:33] <tgm4883> drnick1, no they dont play out of the box, let me check what i did
[07:33] <nevermind> charliesu: but you said "that plugs with USB"
[07:34] <xlaxis> tgm4883: GeFirex FX 5200
[07:34] <DrNick1> tgm4883: thanks very much
[07:34] <ProN00b> is there any cli tool to checksum (md5, sfv, sha1) files that also reports live progress ?
[07:34] <xlaxis> *GeForce
[07:34] <velko> ProN00b, md5sum
[07:34] <tgm4883> xlaxis, pretty sure your fine
[07:34] <xlaxis> great
[07:34] <xlaxis> thanlks
[07:34] <erickcasio> hola
[07:34] <nevermind> charliesu: so i wanted to know what do you mean
[07:34] <reydelsillon> nevermind: how do i activate the gome desktop?
[07:34] <erickcasio> dessde mexico
[07:34] <Answer> What is the default password for user "ubuntu" in the liveCD ?
[07:34] <qusai> I get a md device not found in an mdadm error.. what's that?
[07:34] <acidtabs> yxairyggen: with this tut http://gaming.gwos.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.68
[07:34] <xlaxis> *thanks, tgm4883 :)
[07:34] <DrNick1> Answer: there isn't one as far as i know....
[07:34] <nevermind> reydelsillon: restart gdm and choose the session
[07:34] <charliesu> nevermind: i want a bluetooth adaptor that i can plug into USB to access other bluetooth devices
[07:34] <acidtabs> but it seems not to work
[07:34] <Answer> DrNick1: I installed openssh-server but I can't login
[07:34] <dave132> I am getting a black screen upon logout in feisty fawn, is there any fix,or i it a known byg?
[07:35] <nevermind> Answer: there's isn't one
[07:35] <ProN00b> velko, how can i have that report live progress ?
[07:35] <dyrne> makaraki: like ifconfig | grep eth0; if $? = 1 then ifconfig eth1 up  and whatever  ?
[07:35] <qusai> Can someone help me please?
[07:35] <papatwilight> what codec and or plugin do i need for amarok to listen to radio via shoutcast
[07:35] <tgm4883> drnick1, 64bit or i386
[07:35] <Answer> wtf how do I log in to ssh server if there is no pw
[07:35] <nevermind> charliesu: oh, i see, i don't know then :)
[07:35] <lun> hi all, I want to use suspend2 on my laptop, but when I read the suspend2 howto, I get to a part that I don't know how to do it. Using an initrd/initramfs with Suspend2 is possible, but you will have to trigger a resume yourself in your linuxrc/init. To do this, you MUST either modify your distro's initrd/ramfs generation routines or edit your linuxrc (or init) script yourself to contain the line
[07:35] <lun>     echo > /sys/power/suspend2/do_resume
[07:35] <lun> Either way, this call must come BEFORE your initrd/ramfs mounts your filesystem. If the line is missing, your system will not resume. If the line comes after mounting file systems, you will most likely suffer from filesystem corruption. You have been warned.
[07:35] <DrNick1> tgm4883: 32bit
[07:35] <velko> ProN00b, i don't think you can
[07:35] <tgm4883> drnick, did you install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs?
[07:35] <qusai> My usplash screen shows and quits quickly, how do I log in Ubuntu?!
[07:35] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, And what's the problem?
[07:36] <tgm4883> sorry, drnick1, did you install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs?
[07:36] <lun> Does anyone have an idea about how to alter the initrd/initramfs generating routine?
[07:36] <DrNick1> tgm4883: no... i was trying to search for libdvdcss and nothing shows up, so it appears I need the 2 on the end....
[07:36] <yxairyggen> acidtabs, It's almost as I did, but I installed it in /usr/local/games
[07:36] <boubbin> my xorg says /dev/input/wacom doesnt exist, how to fix this ? xorg runs fine, but it just tellms me about this error
[07:36] <acidtabs> that tut don't work when i get to the chmod
[07:36] <acidtabs> part
[07:36] <makaraki> hi dyrne if $?=1 if means eth0 KO, thanks I didn't know the exit codes
[07:36] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Do you have a wacom-device
[07:36] <acidtabs> and the mv *
[07:36] <boubbin> yxairyggen: that is that ?
[07:37] <DrNick1> tgm4883: still can't find anything... what repo's did you install this lot from?  I was hoping i wouldn't have to use EasyUbuntu in this release...
[07:37] <boubbin> i mean: what is that :P
[07:37] <dave132> is the logout problem a known bug?
[07:37] <qusai> Why is it when I come here I get ignored :/.
[07:37] <velko> lun, look at the files in /etc/initramfs-tools (maybe scripts?)
[07:37] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Then you probebly don't have it, and if it says that a device you dont't have does'nt exists its all in order
[07:37] <qusai> My usplash screen shows and quits quickly, how do I log in Ubuntu?!
[07:37] <tgm4883> do you have the medibuntu repo?
[07:37] <ik1> please does anybody here know how apply "evolution" or thunderbird in accessing free hotmail and yahoo mail accounts
[07:37] <lun> velko, thanks, gonna do it
[07:37] <lontra_> qusai: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:37] <yxairyggen> boubbin, You can comment the wacom-lines away in xorg.conf if you want
[07:37] <nevermind> qusai: what uspalsh?
[07:37] <Seb3DGE> hello folks... I've got a problem. My primary partition's filesystem (ntfs) has been damaged somehow... I can see the partition in gparted, but it is listed as unknown... is there any way to get it back as ntfs? Perhaps with gpart, parted, testdisk, fdisk...
[07:37] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, but when i log off from kde xorg wont start again
[07:37] <ScottSatkin> what happens when you press <ctrl><alt><F1> | quasi
[07:38] <ScottSatkin> what happens when you press <ctrl><alt><F1> | qusai
[07:38] <rajk> hey guys/gals. im having a problem accessing the repos, was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing the same problem.. the console says "99% [Waiting for headers] "
[07:38] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Aha, then it's something wrong ;)
[07:38] <qusai> lontra_: It's not the default manager
[07:38] <ik1> please does anybody here know how apply "evolution" or "thunderbird" in accessing free hotmail and yahoo mail account
[07:38] <DrNick1> tgm4883: no not at present. I did think though that one of the different things about feisty was to make all this much easier, so just install a package and its all there?  i've installed the restricted format's package
[07:38] <yxairyggen> boubbin, I always get that the wacom does'nt exist, but X starts anyway
[07:38] <qusai> How to do the KDE one, lontra_?
[07:38] <lontra_> qusai: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:38] <boubbin> yxairyggen: ywah, but when i do ctrl+alt+backspace x wont run again untill i type "startx"
[07:39] <TSWoodV> ikl: You'll need to set either of those two email clients to POP your email down.
[07:39] <tgm4883> drnick1 you can try and get libdvdread3 from your current repos, and that is supposed to install libdvdcss2, but I haven't had luck with it
[07:39] <reydelsillon> nevermind: it worked. can you give me the command to get ridd of the kubuntu files?
[07:39] <qusai> lontra_: I get my Ubuntu loading screen then it goes back to CLI!
[07:39] <TSWoodV> DrNick1: Had that same problem last night.  Can
[07:39] <tgm4883> drnick the medibuntu repo can't be in the ubuntu release for legal reasons
[07:39] <nevermind> reydelsillon: sudo dpkg --purge kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <yxairyggen> boubbin, It's probebly not the wacom device that's wrong
[07:39] <frojnd> hello there has someone managed to connect logitech HS03-Vxx headset with a blue tooth adapter ?? can someone tell me how to connect those two things?
[07:40] <TSWoodV> DrNick1: Had that same problem last night.  Can't play DVDs yet, even with gstreamer ugly.
[07:40] <DrNick1> tgm4883: ok, looks like i'll have to add some extra repo's.  not quite sure how a total newbie is supposed to figure all this out... but anyway thanks for your help :)
[07:40] <ScottSatkin> qusai: it is likely a problem in your xorg.conf file... does anyone know where the error log file is?
[07:40] <boubbin> yxairyggen: so how can i know what is causing that ?
[07:40] <reydelsillon> nevermind: thanks!
[07:40] <nevermind> reydelsillon: welcome
[07:40] <qusai> /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[07:40] <yxairyggen> Don't you have some other errors?
[07:40] <Seb3DGE> hey? anyone? I can't boot winsux nor ubuntu if I can't manage to rescue my primary partition somehow :/
[07:40] <tgm4883> drnick1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#head-e3dafb305e64ec576176ee706e287bb4d839cb12
[07:40] <lontra_> qusai: sounds like something is fishy with X ... run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure it
[07:40] <qusai> ScottSatkin: II will check.
[07:40] <qusai> lontra_: I will try.
[07:40] <ScottSatkin> qusai: lontda_ is right
[07:41] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah somekind of errors about fonts, three lines
[07:41] <DrNick1> tgm4883: excellent, cheers :)
[07:41] <yxairyggen> boubbin, And what do the errors say?
[07:41] <DrNick1> laters all
[07:41] <mynnx> wow, pastebin is down
[07:41] <boubbin> sec, ill paste them.
[07:41] <mynnx> that's crazy
[07:41] <Horscht> !smb
[07:41] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:41] <qusai> lontra_: It freezes I think it's trying to access kdm.
[07:42] <qusai> Never mind it popped up.
[07:42] <boubbin> yxairyggen: (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[07:42] <lontra_> qusai: it freezes when running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:42] <isildur> i'm updating to feisty and wanted to know the difference between two configuration files, how do I now switch back from the display mode of the file(I'm using aptitude)
[07:42] <stork> how does one install music codecs on feisty?
[07:42] <nevermind> k, does anyone knows a WYSIWYG website desinger besides Nvu?
[07:42] <velko> isildur, q?
[07:42] <ScottSatkin> !codecs | stork
[07:42] <ubotu> stork: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <stork> thanks
[07:43] <yxairyggen> boubbin, That does'nt matter
[07:43] <isildur> velko lol thx I tried esc etc how stupid^^
[07:43] <yxairyggen> boubbin, something else must be wrong
[07:43] <boubbin> yxairyggen: how can i know that is the problem ?
[07:43] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Can you do a /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:43] <boubbin> sec
[07:43] <velko> isildur, does it worked? because i'm not sure either :-)
[07:43] <yxairyggen> boubbin, I don't know what's the problem is, you must look in the errors
[07:44] <nevermind> isildur: press q
[07:44] <bluekeys> !swiftbox
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <isildur> velko yeah it works I just didnt think about it
[07:44] <boubbin> yxairyggen: well, im on kubuntu so i dont have gdm right ?
[07:44] <bluekeys> Anyone know anything about swiftbox?
[07:44] <qusai> lontra_: I did the reconfigure, I restart kdm and same thing happened
[07:44] <lontra_> qusai: what kind of video card?
[07:44] <qusai> It went back to Ubuntu loading screen and froze then stopped.
[07:44] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Aha, then its /etc/init.d/kdm restart :P
[07:44] <tgm4883> bluekeys, is swiftbox like swiftfox?
[07:44] <lontra_> qusai: sounds like a video card issue ...imo
[07:44] <qusai> ATi Radeon 9200 SE, it worked before I upgraded to fiesty.
[07:44] <yxairyggen> boubbin, I just can't think of people who runs KDE ;)
[07:44] <ScottSatkin> qusai: what is the error in the xorg log file?
[07:44] <tgm4883> !swiftfox
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <qusai> How can it be, my video card worked well.
[07:45] <qusai> I'll check the log.
[07:45] <stork> anyone know how i can get my scroll wheel to work on a fresh feisty install?
[07:45] <BlackDesign> Does anyone know why my heat sensors don't work (+ fan sensors
[07:45] <BlackDesign> they work in Xp
[07:45] <boubbin> yxairyggen: ywah it does it, first kubuntu splash, then black screen.
[07:45] <bluekeys> tgm4833, yeah, typo
[07:45] <bluekeys> swiftfox*
[07:45] <boubbin> yxairyggen: amarok still playing music background
[07:45] <tgm4883> bluekeys, what do you want to know about it?
[07:45] <mynnx> Hey guys - I'm having a really hard time getting my dual monitor to work....I'm on a HP dv4170us laptop with an Intel 915GM graphics controller.   This is my xorg.conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17424/  and this is my lspci output:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17425/
[07:45] <ConfucianOS> someone want to help me?
[07:45] <bluekeys> tgm4883, is it worth getting? Is it that much better than regular firefox?
[07:46] <ConfucianOS> I think ubuntu is trying to take over my sanity
[07:46] <qusai> ScottSatkin: lontra_: (EE) No devices detected
[07:46] <qusai> Should I just try ati instead of fglrx for now?
[07:46] <nevermind> qusai, what's your GPU?
[07:46] <phratman> When installing sun-java6-jdk, I have to accept a licensing agreement. Is there any way to tell apt to auto-accept it?
[07:46] <boguh> hi, how can i convert a text file to utf-8?
[07:46] <qusai> ATi Radeon 9200 SE.
[07:46] <phratman> I tried apt-get --force-yes -y install sun-java6-jdk
[07:46] <snap_> better ubuntu steals your sanity than winblows ;P
[07:46] <qusai> This only started working when I upgraded to Fiesty.
[07:46] <tgm4883> bluekeys, eh, i suppose, it does seem to be quicker
[07:46] <main2> how can i change the default java vm?
[07:47] <xelados> How can I get gThumb to import my digital camera's photos again? It's a Canon PowerShot A430...
[07:47] <bluekeys> thanks, tgm4883
[07:47] <nevermind> qusai: try using "ati" in the driver option of the device section in your xorg.conf
[07:47] <velko> boguh, iconv -f INPUTENC -t utf8 fname > newname
[07:47] <tgm4883> np
[07:47] <qusai> nevermind: okay.
[07:47] <ConfucianOS> What partitions do I need to create in gpart before installing?
[07:47] <bluekeys> I have another question. If I have GNOME, and not KDE, will I be able to run KDE apps?
[07:47] <boubbin> yxairyggen: when i do kdm restart, nothing happens.
[07:47] <snap_> ati not good for linux....avoid if possible
[07:47] <ScottSatkin> bluekeys: yes, but they won't look as "pretty"
[07:47] <velko> boguh, or just use gedit and specify the encodings manually
[07:47] <bluekeys> I'm using Automatix to get stuff, and some applications are KDE
[07:47] <tgm4883> bluekeys, yes, but they may need kdelibs
[07:47] <nevermind> bluekeys: yes
[07:47] <nevermind> lol
[07:47] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Same thing? So you can't login whith kdm, just from the console and then start X manually?
[07:47] <bluekeys> thank you everyone
[07:48] <stork> anyone know how i can get my scroll wheel to work on a fresh feisty install?
[07:48] <ProN00b> how would i go about checksumming a cd ?
[07:48] <bluekeys> Do I need an antivirus program?
[07:48] <snap_> stork: should work auto magicly
[07:48] <creadorcreativo> bluekeys: no
[07:48] <yxairyggen> bluekeys, No
[07:48] <tgm4883> bluekeys, only if you have a samba server
[07:48] <velko> ProN00b, mount the cd and checksum the device (/dev/hdc for example)
[07:49] <yxairyggen> bluekeys, There have been written about 7 viruses for gnu/linux, and none of them are new
[07:49] <ProN00b> velko, doesn't work
[07:49] <mynnx> Hey guys - I'm having a really hard time getting my dual monitor to work....I'm on a HP dv4170us laptop with an Intel 915GM graphics controller.   This is my xorg.conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17424/  and this is my lspci output:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17425/  does anyone have any ideas?
[07:49] <ConfucianOS> What partitions do I need to make before installing ubuntu?
[07:49] <dyrne> bluekeys: most linux antivirus progs are for cleaning windows machines :)
[07:49] <bluekeys> creadorcreativo, yxairyggen, tgm4883, thanks for the info
[07:49] <stork> snap_, it doesn't :\
[07:49] <tgm4883> confucianOS, what kind of install are you doing?  Dual boot?
[07:49] <yxairyggen> ConfucianOS, a root partition and a swap is essential, a home-partitios are good to
[07:49] <bluekeys> only 7 viruses? wow, that's amazing.
[07:50] <ConfucianOS> I'm doing a clean install
[07:50] <ProN00b> velko, i think it tries to read beyond real data on the disk then because its a raw read and that will result result in read io error
[07:50] <tgm4883> bluekeys, we could write more, but its pointless and we prefer to spend the time coding quality apps
[07:50] <velko> ProN00b, sorry. no other ideas
[07:50] <gilshalev> what do i need to add to sudoers to remove password recall.....I want users to be prompted for password everytime they try to get root. In gui and terminal mode?
[07:50] <temujoe> Any ies4linux users around?
[07:50] <Innuendo>  hi... I'm trying to recover the filesystem of my pen drive... someone tried to format it using ntfs and it stops working. Can you help me?
[07:50] <snap_> both my wireless mouses work w/o install i just plug in the usb dongle
[07:50] <bluekeys> yeah, how many people use linux?
[07:50] <yxairyggen> bluekeys, And even if you got virus in gnu/linux (which probebly won-t happend) the virus can't do anything harmeful on the system if you don't run it as root
[07:50] <bluekeys> 3% of users or so?
[07:50] <tgm4883> ProN00b, let me see if i can dig up the command
[07:51] <bluekeys> oh yeah, and to run it as root you need a password
[07:51] <tec> hello all
[07:51] <yxairyggen> Hmm, there have been written some exploits that can create an root-privilige-user, so a potential virus could use that, but I don't think there is somekind of virus for linux who do that
[07:51] <dyrne> bluekeys: of course linux itself is sort of a virus :)
[07:51] <imbecile> bluekeys,  just the smart ones hehe
[07:51] <snap_> no dont set root passsword
[07:51] <tgm4883> ProN00b, why don't you just run the cd check from the installer menu?
[07:51] <snap_> use keyring and sudo
[07:52] <velko> stork, try to add [Option "ZAxisMapping"    "4 5"]  (without [] ) to the mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. this worked for xfree86, but i don't know if it will for xorg
[07:52] <gils> how do i remove password x minutes recall period?
[07:52] <gils> on sudo
[07:52] <bluekeys> dyrne, how is linux itself a virus? It's removing people's windows installations and installing itself to their hard drives?
[07:52] <yxairyggen> bluekeys, If you run an e-mail-server it can be good with an antivirus program to scan viruses for the users who runs windows, but if you don't then antivirus is kind of useless in linux
[07:52] <tgm4883> bluekeys, in a perfect world
[07:53] <tgm4883> :)
[07:53] <bluekeys> alright, cool
[07:53] <nevermind> bluekeys: lately, feisty is aksing wether if you want to trasnfer your current windows config to ubuntu :P
[07:53] <gils> is there anyone here with sudoers knowledge?
[07:53] <snap_> bahh screw the widows users let them ear virus
[07:53] <tgm4883> gils, what are you trying to do?
[07:53] <stork> velko, nope, already in there
[07:53] <ProN00b> tgm4883, from what installer menu ?
[07:54] <snap_> bahh screw the windows users let them eat virus
[07:54] <tgm4883> ProN00b, the one when the cd boots
[07:54] <mynnx> has anyone taken a look at my dual-monitor problem?
[07:54] <frojnd> what do I have to set in audio settings to listen the music through logitech's bluetooth headset???
[07:54] <Nubbie> hey guys i'm having problems with dbus. i restart it, but applications still don't pick it up. i'm using feisty.
[07:54] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah. it wont ask my loginname or passwd
[07:54] <ProN00b> tgm4883, why do you asume the cd i burned comes with a installer menu and a cd check ?
[07:54] <bluekeys> Windows vista had a pretty GUI, there was that cool SUPERKEY-TAB feature that showed your windows in a "3D" sort of way
[07:54] <gils> tgm4883: i want to remove the password remember feature....i want to 'always' be prompted for password!!
[07:54] <yxairyggen> boubbin, And it crash?
[07:54] <kahrytan> If you have the capability to stop something bad from happening (like virus outbreak in computers), then you have responsbility to stop it from happening
[07:54] <nevermind> gils
[07:54] <nevermind> gils: sudo visudo
[07:55] <Nubbie> lol.
[07:55] <snap_> proNoob Beryk beats vista by a mile
[07:55] <tgm4883> ProN00b my bad, i dont know why i was thinking you were burning a ubuntu cd, my bad lol
[07:55] <Tr0gd0r> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and i dont have 1280x800 as a resolution in the resolution changer, how can I add it?
[07:55] <nevermind> change Defaults:user_name timestamp_timeout=10 to -1
[07:55] <snap_> dammit beryl*
[07:55] <boubbin> yxairyggen: wait i chec k if kdm is running when i log off from kde.
[07:55] <Svish> How can I get the feisty compiz stuff to do more fancy stuff than wobbly windows and cube? (and how do I get the cube to work?? it is activated but how do I turn?)
[07:55] <Dumahen> i couldnt do it :( i couldnt add my win. installed hdd to grub loader :(:(:(
[07:55] <gils> nevermind: ok thanks.....why -1 and not 0
[07:55] <boubbin> yxairyggen: its still running
[07:55] <bluekeys> Tr0gd0r: edit your xorg.conf file and add the resolution to it
[07:55] <SaveFerris> I  get an API mismatch with a "X server failed to load", apparently my nvidia driver is higher than my X server, what do i do?
[07:55] <jl> hi everybody
[07:55] <nabdan> all
[07:55] <nevermind> gils: -1 is infinite :)
[07:56] <BFTD> Hi I'm upgrading to 7.04 and I got an apache2 error
[07:56] <Tr0gd0r> bluekeys the only resolution in my xorg.conf is 1280x800
[07:56] <snap_> Svish: install beryl
[07:56] <yxairyggen> boubbin, did'nt you say that the Xserver crashed and you have to login in the console and type startx?
[07:56] <bluekeys> tr0gd0r, you can add resolutions to it
[07:56] <stork> !mouse
[07:56] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:56] <mjunx> what version of Xorg is in edgy?
[07:56] <AquaFox> nevermind, it's me qusai.
[07:56] <DoctorOwl> Where was the ubuntu class channel again?
[07:56] <nevermind> AquaFox: hi there
[07:56] <Svish> snap_: what do I install for beryl? Is it those 2 or 3 packages from the package manager?
[07:56] <boubbin> yxairyggen: x is running fine, but when i logg off from kde it wont show me the login screen. and kdm restart wont help
[07:56] <real_ate> hey all, i'm lookin to get into a discussion with a wireless hardware expert on a specific manor, a bug i think
[07:57] <DoctorOwl> Wasnt it #ubuntu-class or something
[07:57] <mynnx> Hey guys...I'm having a real hard time getting two monitors to work on an Intel 915GM integrated graphics cards...can anyone give me a hand?
[07:57] <AquaFox> Anyway, I just wanted to say, it works and fglrx doesn't.
[07:57] <AquaFox> 2.6.20 restricted modules must have a broken fglrx or something.
[07:57] <boubbin> yxairyggen: xorg tellms me about couple errors that arent fatal for xsever, wacom and fonts
[07:57] <Tr0gd0r> bluekeys im looking at my xorg.conf the only resolution in the whole file is 1280x800
[07:57] <BFTD> !feisty
[07:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[07:57] <jl> i have a problem with kde applications, everytime i extract a cd/dvd a message kio_file unmounting is show
[07:57] <nevermind> AquaFox: were the official ati drivers?
[07:57] <Horscht> can someone help me with SMB sharing? Other (windows PCs) complain that I do not have the rights to access my SMB shares on this linux machine.
[07:57] <AquaFox> They did but I'm in software mode.
[07:57] <Horscht> http://www.pastebin.ca/456142 that's my smb,conf
[07:57] <AquaFox> I think..
[07:57] <yxairyggen> boubbin, But you can startx and kdm? What's the problem?
[07:58] <jl> it only occurs when i start a kde application
[07:58] <real_ate> anyone know where i can talk about about a bug, i'm a developer
[07:58] <nevermind> AquaFox: cause since feisty has another kernel, you need to compile the ati module again to work with that kernel
[07:58] <soothsay> rellik: #ubuntu-dev? Launchpad?
[07:58] <ubuntuEdgy> is there any way to find out why an application logged me out, sort of like using a terminal but writes the out put to a log file.
[07:58] <bluekeys> Tr0gd0r, does it look something like this?        Modes      "1280x800"
[07:58] <mynnx> can I get someone to take a look at my xorg.conf really quick and let me know what's not working?  no one has replied on ubuntuforums...please?
[07:58] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, kdm is running all the time, x works, xinerama works, but it wont show mme the login screen when i log off from x, i have to "startx" to get in kde, and stil wont show the screen just logs me in.
[07:58] <AquaFox> I'm talking about fglrx?
[07:58] <soothsay> real_ate: #ubuntu-dev? Launchpad?
[07:58] <tgm4883> ProN00b check this, it may help http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/CdromMd5sumsAfterBurning#Checking_the_md5sum_of_a_CD_Rom
[07:59] <soothsay> Sorry rellik, that message wasn't for you
[07:59] <jl> does somebody knows what is this kio_file service for?
[07:59] <nevermind> AquaFox: as in apt-get install flgrx?
[07:59] <ikarug1> I'm running a LAMP server w/ php4... and i'm getting the following error when running phpmyadmin: "The session id contains invalid characters"....any ideas?
[07:59] <AquaFox> Yeah.
[07:59] <AquaFox> They used to work in Edgy.
[07:59] <dale> hi
[07:59] <real_ate> soothsay: thanks, i'm lookin on #ubuntu bugs now aswell
[07:59] <nevermind> AquaFox: just install the ATI official drivers, it's for the best
[07:59] <ProN00b> tgm4883, would be cool if that page loaded
[07:59] <ikarug1> aquafox: you talking to me?
[07:59] <yxairyggen> boubbin, have you tried ctrl+alt+F7?
[07:59] <mynnx> oh well.
[07:59] <YetiChick> mynnx:  What's not working?
[07:59] <AquaFox> They're installed I think.
[07:59] <ProN00b> tgm4883, srry, does now
[07:59] <AquaFox> xorg-drivers-ati, nevermind ?
[08:00] <tgm4883> ProN00b, its a liittle slow
[08:00] <AquaFox> No ikarug1.
[08:00] <dale> can anyone help get ubuntu to work with Riva tnt ?
[08:00] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, gives nothing.
[08:00] <Horscht> anyone?
[08:00] <dale> i
[08:00] <yxairyggen> boubbin, When?
[08:00] <Tr0gd0r> bluekeys nevermind i rebooted and now its working
[08:00] <boubbin> yxairyggen: when i have logged off from kde
[08:00] <bluekeys> alright, cool.
[08:00] <nevermind> AquaFox: i don't know which ones are, i use nvidia
[08:00] <AquaFox> Okay.
[08:00] <jl> anyone?
[08:01] <nevermind> AquaFox: but look for the ati driver in feisty to get 3d agin
[08:01] <mynnx> YetiChick:  I'm trying to get my dual-monitor setup working; here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17424/ and here is my lspci:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17425/
[08:01] <haarp> ubuntu doesn't seem to allocate any main memory to use as vid mem. how do i do that?
[08:01] <AquaFox> Okay.
[08:01] <AquaFox> I miss playing Warcraft :p.
[08:01] <boubbin> yxairyggen: it sure brings kde back if i frist do ctrl+alt+f2 fro example.
[08:01] <Kozeris> Hello! i had nvidia linux native drivers, and games on wine doesnt work, then i read text how to install god nvidia drivers and on setting up somethink with disabling gdm [ before disabled NV in file]  my linux doesnt run , saying somethink about x server deosnt work on this card or driver
[08:01] <Demetrious> jl: It has something to do with KDE, looking it up now.
[08:01] <Kozeris> what do?
[08:01] <AquaFox> Thanks, nevermind.
[08:01] <dale> Trying to get riva tnt to work on Ubuntu, it says it cant load the Graphic interface
[08:01] <instabin> I need to setup a web and email server. Right now we have a firewall hooked to our internet connection and we only have one ip address.
[08:01] <nevermind> AquaFox: nevermind;)
[08:01] <Horscht> can someone help me with SMB sharing? Other (windows PCs) complain that I do not have the rights to access my SMB shares on this linux machine.
[08:01] <Horscht> http://www.pastebin.ca/456142 that's my smb,conf
[08:01] <nevermind> dale: apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:01] <sluimers> Could someone help me with with an eclipse problem? I can't start it.
[08:01] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Looking.  What's it doing/not doing?
[08:01] <AquaFox> xD
[08:01] <tec> is there any drivers for ATI cards i have a ATI 9550 256 mb card.
[08:02] <Kozeris> Hello! i had nvidia linux native drivers, and games on wine doesnt work, then i read text how to install god nvidia drivers and on setting up somethink with disabling gdm [ before disabled NV in file]  my linux doesnt run , saying somethink about x server deosnt work on this card or driver, how to fix?
[08:02] <yxairyggen> boubbin, but when does it crash?
[08:02] <sluimers> It errors out
[08:02] <jl> thats right the kio_file error message appear everytime i extract a cd/dvd
[08:02] <boubbin> yxairyggen: it wont crash. everything is running ok. but then i log off from kde, i want it to bring the logon screen to me.
[08:02] <mynnx> YetiChick:  On my primary monitor I get a signal, like the edges of the screen are brighter, and I hear the drums that indicate I'm at the login screen, but the screen is blank
[08:02] <dale> Thanks ill give that a try
[08:02] <jl> and i start a kde app
[08:02] <sluimers> This is the log I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17426/
[08:02] <yxairyggen> boubbin, aha, I missunderstood everything
[08:03] <Kozeris> Hello! i had nvidia linux native drivers, and games on wine doesnt work, then i read text how to install god nvidia drivers and on setting up somethink with disabling gdm [ before disabled NV in file]  my linux doesnt run , saying somethink about x server deosnt work on this card or driver, how to fix?
[08:03] <BFTD> anyone?
[08:03] <boubbin> yxairyggen: sorry :/
[08:03] <nevermind> Kozeris: don't flood
[08:03] <Kozeris> neverminbd sorry i very need help :(
[08:03] <nevermind> Kozeris: firstly, do you speak spanish?
[08:03] <dale> When running apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy it gives me permission denied
[08:03] <Kozeris> nevermind no i am lithuanian
[08:03] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Crap, that's not the right xorg.conf file
[08:04] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, too?
[08:04] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Let me grab the right one for you
[08:04] <nevermind> dale: use sudo to apt-get
[08:04] <yxairyggen> boubbin, But when you log off kde, press ctrl+alt+F2 for example, login and do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start' what happends then?
[08:04] <Demetrious> jl: I think kio_file is part of the KDE launcher.
[08:04] <SaveFerris> How can I update X server to match my nvidia driver? (API mismatch on startup)
[08:04] <dale> thanks
[08:04] <mynnx> YetiChick:  I'll be right back
[08:04] <nevermind> Kozeris: ok, nevermind, let's see, you installed the nvidia drivers, right?
[08:04] <snap_> KDEc runs so buggy for me i like gnome and Xfce
[08:04] <nevermind> SaveFerris: install nvidia drivers again to build a new module for the kernel
[08:05] <boubbin> yxairyggen: nothing.
[08:05] <dyrne> Kozeris: 1. alt-ctrl-f2  2. login  3. sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg  4. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  vesa dirver is generic and will get x running again but you can try choosing nvidia or nv
[08:05] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Not even a message?
[08:05] <snap_> also KDE looks to microcrappy
[08:05] <boubbin> it just whips me to console and when i type kdm starts it gives nothing.
[08:05] <boubbin> yxairyggen: nothing
[08:05] <SaveFerris> nevermind: so just apt-get remove nvidia-glx and reinstall?
[08:05] <Kozeris> i had native linux drivers, and found isnturciton how to update to new, then i downloaded on terminal packages and set some things on text filkes disabled NV or somethink and then my gnome not running anymore :(
[08:05] <boubbin> yxairyggen: and kdm is running all the time, i checked with htop
[08:05] <nevermind> SaveFerris: indeed
[08:05] <BFTD> How do i get apt-get dist-upgrade to skip the upgrading of apache2?
[08:05] <Tr0gd0r> if i run emerald from a terminal window it works, then when i close the terminal window emerald closes too, how can i fix that?
[08:05] <yxairyggen> boubbin, But you don't gen the login-screen?
[08:05] <Kozeris> dyrne thanks i will try
[08:06] <jl> Demetrious: thanks for the info, i don't know if this is a bug or is just me... but when i start amarok or kde and put/extarct a cd a kio_file mount problem message appear
[08:06] <Kozeris> i now in live cd do it here? ctrl alt and f2?
[08:06] <bgrupe> Tr0gd0r: append a &
[08:06] <boubbin> yxairyggen: right.
[08:06] <velko> BFTD, hold this package
[08:06] <nevermind> Kozeris: nop, you should do it from HD
[08:06] <velko> BFTD, in aptitude you press = on the package
[08:06] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Is the screen black?
[08:06] <boubbin> yxairyggen: it still gives the kdm theme, bouncing icons "loading window manager" etx. but no login screen.
[08:06] <snap_> man i wish my live cd would run wireless on other box
[08:06] <Kozeris> nevermind :> ok i will try
[08:06] <dale> hi Nevermind, I did the Sudo , but when plugging in my Nvidia after that , on booting up it says failed to load graphic interface
[08:06] <Demetrious> jl: Yes, the process should die, but I know the error is bugging. I am still Googling it to see what else is there to be found.
[08:06] <Kozeris> thanks
[08:06] <Kozeris> all
[08:06] <snap_> im kinda stuck w/ that one
[08:07] <SaveFerris> nevermind: same thing happened (API mismatch, it says that my nvidia driver is higher than my x driver)
[08:07] <boubbin> yxairyggen: so no black screen :P
[08:07] <nevermind> SaveFerris: try rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia
[08:07] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Sorry, then I don't know howto help you :(
[08:07] <sgtmattbaker> so feisty has been working pretty well for me
[08:07] <nevermind> !nvidia | Kozeris
[08:07] <ubotu> Kozeris: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:07] <yxairyggen> boubbin, I'm running gnome and gdm, I thinks KDE sucks :P
[08:07] <dragonrider8> hello
[08:07] <Fylk> Can some one help me install something, or rather, make something work?
[08:07] <Tr0gd0r> bgrupe emerald --replace &
[08:07] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, thats your opinion, i love kde :)
[08:07] <Tr0gd0r> like thaT?
[08:07] <nevermind> dale, sure it's a riva tnt, right?
[08:07] <Fylk> Like this: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php
[08:07] <bgrupe> ya
[08:07] <boubbin> yxairyggen: but thanks for your time.
[08:08] <Tr0gd0r> hmm still didnt work
[08:08] <jl> Demetrious: do you use feisty?
[08:08] <hume> hi... I am trying to make a Freecom USB Tv card work in ubuntu. I load the modules, and plug it in, but there seemsto be no firmware loaded - anyone got advice?
[08:08] <Tr0gd0r> closed the terminal window and its gone
[08:08] <bgrupe> gotta work
[08:08] <SaveFerris> nevermind: ok i think i uninstalled the module, cuz modprobe says it doesn't exist
[08:08] <dragonrider8> i have a problem with my sound card , yesterday it was working like a charm , and today no sound at all ... but my micro seem to work ...
[08:08] <BrokenLinux> question: When opening windows they always open in the top right of the screen (like opening a nautilus window or creating a new email in thunderbird)...Is there a way to get windows to remember their locations?
[08:08] <dale> yea im pretty sure its the Riva tnt
[08:08] <Fylk> Need help installed http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine.php
[08:08] <nevermind> SaveFerris: k, now install it again then
[08:08] <soothsay> hume: What does /var/log/syslog say after you plug it in
[08:08] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Why? You know that KDE uses Qt that in the beginning was'nt open source, then they started the gnome-project just to make an total open source desktop enviroment, later qt became open source and the whole KDE to, but if you like GNU and open source you might like gnome better than KDE :P
[08:09] <mynnx> YetiChick:  I'm back
[08:09] <Nubbie> tr0gd0r: hit altF2 and run it there.
[08:09] <SaveFerris> nevermind: install nvidia-glx?
[08:09] <dale> when booting , it shows Riva TNT
[08:09] <dragonrider8> is there someone who can help me to fix my sound problem ?
[08:09] <nevermind> dale: the nvidia-glx-legacy is intended to work with the Riva TNT, have you changed the xorg.conf to use nvidia as the driver?
[08:09] <Nubbie> tr0gd0r: that way you don'ot need to worry about having the terminal window open all of the time.
[08:09] <yxairyggen> dragonrider8, It depends on what problem you've got
[08:09] <nevermind> SaveFerris: what's your nvidia model?
[08:09] <dale> ohh how do I do that?
[08:09] <YetiChick> mynnx:  I'm still here.  Although I'm about to switch irc clients.  I'd never tried Gaim for IRC - and I'm not liking it much.
[08:10] <yxairyggen> dragonrider8, Just no sound? Which soundcard have you got?
[08:10] <dale> think thats it then?
[08:10] <Nubbie> gaim + IRC = BAD.
[08:10] <SaveFerris> nevermind: GeForce FX5200
[08:10] <nevermind> dragonrider8: wha'ts the problem?
[08:10] <alienSkul1> /msgchanservlist*ubuntu*
[08:10] <YetiChick> mynnx:  BRB.
[08:10] <bronson> Wow...  NetworkManager worked great in my Feisty of a few months ago.  I just installed the final Feisty and now it refuses to recognize any wireless networks.
[08:10] <dragonrider8> my problem is written few ligns ago
[08:10] <snap_> NE1 have a deep fried hamburger........omg so tasty but so deadly
[08:10] <nevermind> SaveFerris: give it a try with the nvidia-glx-new package
[08:10] <bronson> That's frustrating.
[08:10] <dyrne> dragonrider8: first id play an mp3 file and open a terminal and type alsamixer  and adjust the volume settings until you get sound
[08:10] <hume> soothsay, [1177438206.798250]  nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_14aa_620_2_0_usbraw').
[08:10] <dragonrider8> yesterday the sound was working and today nothing at all
[08:10] <xMorgawr> hi, i need some help with this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17427/ ) piece of code(gtk+/c) in my program.. i wanted to split my frame creation function in gtk+ so my program would've been cleaner but i get "segmentation fault(core dumped)" error when i try to execute it, what's the problem? (i'm not that good with pointers, i think that's the problem :S )
[08:10] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, nice point, but gnome is too "Plain" somehow, kde has more options "out-ox-box" or atleast i think of that way, i used gnome for 2months in suse 10.1 but then i switched to kde.
[08:10] <ralf__> hello there
[08:10] <Tr0gd0r> nubbie, ubuntu recognizes f2 as the brightness key
[08:10] <Tr0gd0r> how do i fix that
[08:10] <snap_> chicken fried stteak on a bun
[08:11] <soothsay> hume: That doesn't look promising. No other messages?
[08:11] <dyrne> Tr0gd0r: i dont know but you can do the xgamma command instead like: xgamma 4  or whatever number
[08:11] <SaveFerris> nevermind: ok i installed nvidia-glx-new but modprobe still says theres no module
[08:11] <Tr0gd0r> dyrne i want to do alt-f2 but whenever i press f2 it changes brightness
[08:11] <Svish> !dvdisaster
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdisaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <yxairyggen> boubbin, How do you mean? I started with Red Hat 8.0 in 2001 and used KDE for like three month, then I switched to fluxbox, and now I run gnome
[08:11] <hume> soothsay, dmesg says: [17188279.800000]  usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:11] <nevermind> don't do any modprobe, just restart gdm after using nvidia as the driver in xorg.conf
[08:11] <Tr0gd0r> its not recognized as an f key
[08:12] <dyrne> Tr0gd0r: ah i see
[08:12] <xelados> Has anyone else had any problems out of gthumb? Before I upgraded to feisty, it detected and worked with my digital cam just fine.
[08:12] <dragonrider8> dyrne the sound level is at max in the sound controller
[08:12] <xelados> And I had the latest updates for edgy.
[08:12] <vadvad> hi! how do i get and install glibc ???
[08:12] <Nubbie> xelados: i suggest you try out F-Spot, its a great application.
[08:12] <SaveFerris> nevermind: heh, what do you know? it worked
[08:12] <teb> i'm having problems mounting my hfs+ firewire disk as rw, it only mounts as ro, /dev/sda6       /media/backup   hfsplus defaults,user   0       0 is the line in my /etc/fstab
[08:12] <xMorgawr> hi, i need some help with this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17427/ ) piece of code(gtk+/c) in my program.. i wanted to split my frame creation function in gtk+ so my program would've been cleaner but i get "segmentation fault(core dumped)" error when i try to execute it, what's the problem? (i'm not that good with pointers, i think that's the problem :S )
[08:12] <dragonrider8> could it be a problem with arts ?
[08:12] <nevermind> SaveFerris: :)
[08:12] <boubbin> yxairyggen: somehow i hate the icons (that can be chnaged though), and the look is all the way plain in gnome, too few eye-candy for me, well i dont say you cant make it look nice. but somehow i feel mmore like home with kde..
[08:12] <yxairyggen> vadvad, sudo apt-get install glibc i think
[08:13] <velko> Fylk, somebody answered you already?
[08:13] <vadvad> trying...
[08:13] <SaveFerris> thanks
[08:13] <Fylk> They did? Sorry, i'm a little distracted at the moment. who did?
[08:13] <soothsay> hume: Have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183297
[08:13] <tgm4883> Is there a good guide for NFS?
[08:13] <dyrne> dragonrider8: does sudo nohup cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp&  make any noise? :)
[08:13] <tgm4883> on dapper
[08:13] <hume> soothsay, according to the ubuntuwiki-howtos there should be something in /dev/dvb/* as well, but there is no /dev/dvb
[08:13] <Nubbie> teb: there is no support for writing to HFS+
[08:13] <yxairyggen> boubbin, With gdesklets, beryl, avant or whatheveryouwant gnome is nice, but I uselly don't use that kind of things
[08:13] <velko> Fylk, no. i'm asking if somebody has answered your question. but obviously nobody :-)
[08:14] <CommanderCool> I have a problem with my tv-card...some stations simply dont exist, although they definitely do
[08:14] <teb> Nubbie: it works on my hfs+ partition on my main disk
[08:14] <Fylk> Velko: no one has.
[08:14] <tgm4883> commandercool, what card?
[08:14] <Nubbie> has gdesklets improved much recently?
[08:14] <aldarsior> hello, is there a way I can make ctrl+alt+F8 an X environment off of another computer?
[08:14] <teb> Nubbie: or is it that it might work but no one can help me
[08:14] <Nubbie> teb: write permissions on HFS+ ???
[08:14] <velko> Fylk, according to the page this package is in the standard feisty repos. do you use feisty?
[08:14] <yxairyggen> Is there any big differences between the feisty beta-cd and the feisty stable-cd? Is it worth it to download the stable and burn if I shall install ubuntu on another computer or is the beta-cd ok?
[08:14] <Nubbie> !hfs_
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hfs_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <dragonrider8> nothing at all dyrne
[08:14] <Nubbie> erg...
[08:14] <Nubbie> !hfs+
[08:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:14] <teb> Nubbie: yeah, journaling is disabled
[08:14] <Nubbie> that wouldn't help.
[08:15] <Nubbie> teb: ohhh okay.
[08:15] <dyrne> aldarsior: yeah. couple diff ways. i use xinit so i just do xinit -- :number
[08:15] <CommanderCool> tgm4883: this is what lspci says: "Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture"
[08:15] <tld2> Can anyone refresh my memory?  Right way to enable 3rd party display drivers?  (nvidia in my case)
[08:15] <Fylk> Velko: Yeah, I do. And I installed the package. And nothing happened.
[08:15] <boubbin> yxairyggen: beryl is buggy, atleast i didnt like it, i use kdes default window manager. yeah i know gdesklets, but somehow kde and the applications that are made fro kde are better, atleast i think so.
[08:15] <soothsay> hume: I'm just grasping at straws, but do you have dvb-utils installed?
[08:15] <Nubbie> teb: and your main desk is running ubuntu also?
[08:15] <nevermind> !nvidia | tld2
[08:15] <ubotu> tld2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <hume> soothsay, have read that thread a few times without becmoing wiser
[08:15] <velko> Fylk, can you select it in the themes dialog?
[08:15] <Fylk> nope.
[08:15] <tld2> nevermind: thanks. :)
[08:15] <Nubbie> boubin: i disagree strongly :D
[08:15] <boubbin> yxairyggen: gnome is nice. but i just prefer kde :)
[08:15] <aldarsior> dyrne: where do you specify the other computer?
[08:15] <tgm4883> commandercool, what program are you using?
[08:15] <teb> Nubbie: yes, my main disk is partitioned into 3 disks, hfs+, ext3, and hfs+ (and some boot stuff around there)
[08:16] <nevermind> k guys, leaving here, ciao
[08:16] <hume> soothsay, i am also grasping at straws...:) yes, dvb-utils is installed
[08:16] <teb> Nubbie: and it works fine on that disk, but on my firewire drive i can only read not rw
[08:16] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Ok, beryl is really slow on my computer (2ghz, geforce6200) so I don't use it either
[08:16] <Nubbie> teb: ohhhh okay. i think it may be HAL then.
[08:16] <yxairyggen> boubbin, But I don't use any Qt programs either, firefox, gaim, xchat, vlc, xmms are all GTK
[08:16] <dyrne> aldarsior: oh.  is this comp on same network?
[08:16] <velko> Fylk, which files are installed by this package? you can see them if you type "dpkg -L gtk2-engines-murrine" in a terminal. post the result in pastebin
[08:16] <yxairyggen> boubbin, It's an ideological choice of mine :)
[08:16] <tgm4883> is there any NFS guide for dapper?
[08:17] <BrokenLinux> When opening windows they always open in the top right of the screen (like opening a nautilus window or creating a new email in thunderbird)...Is there a way to get windows to remember their locations?
[08:17] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, i tried xawtv, zapping, tvtime...but scantv does not find those stations neither
[08:17] <aldarsior> dyrne: yes, it's setting under my feet
[08:17] <Nubbie> teb: you may need to add an FDI entry to enable writing on your HFS+ firewire drive, i'm not sure about the details though.
[08:17] <neophyte> nl
[08:17] <dragonrider8> dyrne, i have two sound card ( a sound blaster , and an integrated sound card )
[08:17] <alcane> how do I vew process list?
[08:17] <teb> Nubbie: FDI? can you expand the acronym so i can search for it?
[08:17] <Fylk> Velko: give me a moment to pastebin
[08:17] <Fylk> !Pastebin
[08:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <aldarsior> dyrne: it doesn't have as many video cards and I'd like to use my tri-head on both machines
[08:18] <hume> soothsay, i guess i have the wrong firmware, but shouldn't there be any error msgs somewhere??
[08:18] <CientificoLoco> hola a todos..
[08:18] <alcane> how do I vew process list?
[08:18] <lgc> CientificoLoco, hola.
[08:18] <dyrne> aldarsior: id use vncserver. im not really familiar with the alternatives
[08:18] <tgm4883> commandercool, are they weak or encrypted?
[08:18] <Nubbie> teb: its just an FDI file that HAL uses. It sets permissions for devices connected with HAL.
[08:18] <tgm4883> commandercool, what stations
[08:18] <CientificoLoco> lgc: hola
[08:18] <aldarsior> dyrne: :-/ I don't think vncserver supports xinerama
[08:18] <Nubbie> teb: ex. <file>.fdi
[08:18] <velko> Fylk, you can ask ubotu about stuff without disturbing the others in private message. like this "/msg ubotu pastebin"
[08:18] <alcane> how do I view process list?
[08:18] <CientificoLoco> lgc: sabes como puedo echara andar demonios ?
[08:18] <Fylk> Sorry.
[08:18] <Fylk> Velko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17432/
[08:18] <soothsay> hume: It would seem to me that it would be difficult for the OS to tell if the firmware was operating in slightly different manner than it expects
[08:18] <GrosNaz> alcane  command is : top
[08:18] <teb> Nubbie: do you know where such a file is located?
[08:19] <kozeris> hello again, finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, hwo to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:19] <boubbin> yxairyggen: yeah, now i have to run. cacth ya later :)
[08:19] <CommanderCool> its "Sat1" and "RTL" (in germany)...when i use moretv (windows-prog) there is no problem
[08:19] <CientificoLoco> !dem | CientificoLoco
[08:19] <dyrne> dragonrider8: i usually disable the onboard sound in bios if im not using. all it does is take up resources
[08:19] <Nubbie> teb: i don't even know if thats the solution. i would try to get in communication with the HAL people.
[08:19] <soothsay> hume: The last post in that thread claims that he got it working on Feisty (and on Edgy he need to compile some drivers)
[08:19] <papatwilight> i,m looking into crossover office how would you compare it to wine ?
[08:19] <alcane> GrosNaz: thx man
[08:19] <alcane> exit
[08:19] <velko> Fylk, can you pastebin the content of this file /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-murrine/README
[08:19] <Nubbie> teb: #hal
[08:19] <Nubbie> teb: they should be able to help you much more than i can.
[08:19] <dragonrider8> ok i go to disable it , then i come back
[08:20] <hume> soothsay, yeah, i'll mail him. i got both feisty and edgy, none works
[08:20] <kozeris> hello again, finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, hwo to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:20] <Nubbie> teb: i'm fairly confident that is the solution though.
[08:20] <tgm4883> commandercool, unfortunatly im unfamiliar with that card
[08:20] <lgc> CientificoLoco, pues no muy bien, slo s que los ejecutas, como por ejemplo '/etc/init.d networking start'.
[08:20] <dragonrider8> if my bios is not to older to permit me to do this ...
[08:20] <yxairyggen> boubbin, Bye
[08:20] <CommanderCool> thats bad
[08:20] <luisgmarine> What would be the LInux equivilent for something like Winamp?
[08:20] <CientificoLoco> lgc: es q me dice q no esta habilitado el demonio q quiero correr
[08:20] <CientificoLoco> q puedo hacer?
[08:20] <Nubbie> luismarine: check out banshee!
[08:21] <tgm4883> commandercool, what version of ubuntu
[08:21] <kozeris> hello again, finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, hwo to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:21] <lgc> CientificoLoco, te van a correr de aqu por hablar espaol. Hay un #ubuntu-es.
[08:21] <dyrne> luisgmarine: xmms is closest imo
[08:21] <moebius_> quit
[08:21] <teb> Nubbie: thanks
[08:21] <CPF_> Hi to everyone
[08:21] <moebius_> hehe
[08:21] <Nubbie> teb: no problem, i hope you can get it to work.
[08:21] <CPF_> And after this 7.04 update, good day
[08:21] <CommanderCool> i use feisty
[08:21] <CPF_> But my font dpi is quite changed...
[08:21] <luisgmarine> I'm I allowed to ask for help here about Azereus?
[08:22] <CPF_> Now my fonts are huge!!
[08:22] <kozeris> hello again, finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, hwo to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:22] <CPF_> So, I don't know how to change that ^^ Could you guys help me?
[08:22] <Nubbie> CPF_: so change it in the font dialogue
[08:22] <CPF_> I'm using xfce (xubuntu-desktop)
[08:22] <Nubbie> ughhhh
[08:22] <lgc> CientificoLoco, no s. Pregunta en ingls aqu...
[08:22] <Fylk> Velko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17435/
[08:22] <Nubbie> xfce is no fun.
[08:22] <Kayleah> wow busy in here
[08:22] <Nubbie> CPF_: i have no clue how to help you then.
[08:22] <CientificoLoco> how do I run demons?
[08:22] <CPF_> :)
[08:23] <tgm4883> commandercool, is it analog tv?
[08:23] <snap_> xfce rocks on my old machines
[08:23] <kozeris> HELP PLEASE!finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, how to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:23] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: create an init.d script
[08:23] <CPF_> That's why I use it, but please no war...
[08:23] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, yes, it is analog
[08:23] <instabin> !email
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Nubbie> !patience | kozeris
[08:23] <ubotu> kozeris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:23] <CPF_> I only kinda want to know how to change this back.
[08:23] <instabin> !email server
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <instabin> !web server
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <sebrock> how do I install new nvidia drivers? do I have to remove the old ones first? I wanna replace the ones in rep. to newer from nvidia.com
[08:23] <kozeris> sorry nubbie :(
[08:23] <velko> Fylk, did you read the first line in this file? it says "This is Murrine GTK+ engine. This source code provides only the engine, get the themes @ gnomelook.org."
[08:23] <snap_> im using Konversation....any way to kill join/disco messages
[08:24] <CientificoLoco> !demon | CientificoLoco
[08:24] <sluimers> I have problems starting eclipse, can someone help me out?
[08:24] <snap_> they clutter this up
[08:24] <Nubbie> murrine = sexyness.
[08:24] <instabin> What is the best way to setup an email and web server with spam filtering and anti-virus
[08:24] <Fylk> velko: Yeah, did that.
[08:24] <mynnx_> !dual monitor
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <dragonrider8> hello again
[08:24] <Kayleah> does anyone know about partitioning out my drive prior to my ubuntu install?  I am doing it manually so I can multiboot between Windows adn ubuntu
[08:24] <Nubbie> instsabin: there are guides on the ubuntu forums, search/read them.
[08:24] <velko> Fylk, did you downloaded the themes from gnomelook?
[08:24] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: what do you mena?
[08:24] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: what do you mea?
[08:24] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: what do you mean?
[08:24] <Fylk> I thought I had.
[08:24] <kozeris> HELP PLEASE!finally i came back but now my nvidia drivers looks like broken like no drivers, how to install good drivers, that aftfter i would work with wine for games?
[08:24] <nine__> hi tHere
[08:24] <nine__> ^
[08:24] <mynnx_> Hey guys; can anyone give me a hand with a dual-monitor setup on my HP dv4170us laptop with an Intel 915GM controller?
[08:24] <Nubbie> kozeris: please stop spamming.
[08:24] <tgm4883> commandercool, what are you doing to get that error message
[08:25] <Ramunas> hello, I'm on feisty and I noticed that the sound is way weaker on ubuntu than on windows, on ubuntu I have to use max sound setting, while on windows ~10% is more than enough
[08:25] <snap_> join/leave messages turn this channel to hell
[08:25] <bthornton> So has the Ubuntu team come up with any new "tricks" to handle running 32-bit apps/installing 32-bit *.debs on 64-bit systems?  Or are we still having to create parallel, 32-bit chroot'd environments for stuff like that?
[08:25] <velko> Fylk, you can drag and drop from this page into the gnome theme manager to install the themes
[08:25] <dragonrider8> thanks dyrne , i do not know why but in deactivating my on borad card my another sound card is now fonctionning
[08:25] <kozeris> Nuubie just  here a lot of action and my question is going up too fast :( and then nobody will helpo me :(
[08:25] <jl> i want to go for beryl... but i'm a little confused between xgl and aiglx
[08:25] <kane77> how can I set default printout mode for a printer? in dapper there was one setting, but now it asks me every time.
[08:25] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: an init.d script is put in /etc/init.d/
[08:25] <^^malajenho^^>  /server libres.irc-hispano.org
[08:25] <lgc> How can I reset the roll-down menus of my panel? Every time I install some application that generates a menu entry, when I use the menus again the "Applications" menu flickers and the "Debian" menu is missing categories.
[08:25] <Nubbie> jl: use AIGLX
[08:26] <Nubbie> lgc: killall gnome-panel
[08:26] <Kayleah> what is the best format for my ubuntu partition?
[08:26] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, there is no error message...the stations simply dont exist; scantv says "no station" and there really is no signal
[08:26] <Nubbie> kayleah: ext3
[08:26] <snap_> this channel is  nightmare
[08:26] <kane77> Kayleah, standard is ext3
[08:26] <jl> Nubbie: aiglx is best option for beryl?
[08:26] <Kayleah> ok
[08:26] <Nubbie> jl: yeah.
[08:26] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: I have it in  ; but when I want to run it ... it say thaT "icecast2 daemon disabled"
[08:26] <kane77> snap_, why?
[08:26] <sluimers> Ramunas, I'm a bit a newbie, but have you tried typing alsamixer in the terminal and put the volume of PCM to the max?
[08:26] <Kayleah> how large do i want the partition where i will install it
[08:26] <snap_> can i kill the server messages and just see chat?
[08:26] <Kayleah> thanks nubbie
[08:26] <jl> Nubbie: i have a i915 graphics card
[08:26] <Cosmo_> snap_: go to options --->behavior ---> chat window and check "hide join/part/nick events
[08:27] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: you know that icecast is a package in repositories right?
[08:27] <bthornton> Anybody have the Nomachine/NX client running on a 64-bit install of Feisty?
[08:27] <Nubbie> jl: AIGLX <--
[08:27] <tgm4883> commandercool, but there should be a station there right?
[08:27] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: yeah...
[08:27] <velko> snap_, if you use xchat right click on the channel name (#ubuntu) and disable "show/join part messages"
[08:27] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: I have undestood!  thanks
[08:27] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: it should have everything you need.
[08:27] <gils> nevermind: are you here?
[08:27] <Ramunas> sluimers: awesome, that worked, thanks :)
[08:27] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: no problem, and good luck.
[08:27] <CommanderCool> tgm4883: yes, i checked the frequency with that windows program
[08:27] <teb> Nubbie: apparently all i had to do was join that channel and bam!  magic
[08:27] <CommanderCool> and there it works
[08:27] <jl> Nubbie: thanks for the answer, but whats wrong with xgl?
[08:28] <lgc> Nubbie, thanks. Will it just reset the menus or just do away with the whole panel?
[08:28] <sebrock> anyone using nvidias lates drivers?
[08:28] <Kassah> What's the GUI way setting up a new HD to the mountpoint /storage?
[08:28] <Nubbie> teb: i knew they would know.
[08:28] <Cosmo_> velko: he is using konversation
[08:28] <Nubbie> teb: why don't you do everybody else in your situation a favour and write a guide?
[08:28] <velko> Cosmo_, oh... :-)
[08:28] <teb> Nubbie: i didn't even get a response, i remounted the drive and suddenly it worked
[08:28] <Nubbie> teb: ohhh lol you were joking.
[08:28] <tgm4883> commandercool, using the frequency you still dont get a station?
[08:28] <Nubbie> teb: thats good to know.
[08:28] <jl> how can i know if aiglx is enabled in feisty?
[08:28] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, exactly
[08:29] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, it must be a tuner problem then, right?
[08:29] <mynnx_> Hey guys; can anyone help me out with a dual-monitor setup on my HP dv4170us laptop with an Intel 915GM controller?
[08:29] <Nubbie> jl: feisty's xorg has support for AIGLX, you just need to enable it in xorg.conf.
[08:29] <Nubbie> jl: read beryl's wiki guide.
[08:29] <humbolto> I need to create a device cpuid. How would I do that so it stays there permanently?
[08:29] <CientificoLoco> Nubbie: do you know if there is a chat for icecast?
[08:29] <sebrock> eeeh com on please
[08:30] <jl> Nubbie: thanks for the help... i will read the wiki
[08:30] <nabdan> hi all, does anyone knows how protect a ssh server from brute force attack on feisty ?
[08:30] <tgm4883> commandercool, well if it works in windows then it cant really be a tuner problem
[08:30] <jeroensum> hey all :-)
[08:30] <humbolto> How can I permanently create a new device (e.g. cpuid)?
[08:30] <mynnx_> My dual-monitor setup is giving me a blank login screen and the ubuntu drums that indicate I'm actually in gdm...does anyone have any ideas?
[08:30] <bthornton> nabdan: computer generated passwords
[08:30] <tgm4883> commandercool, but im stumped
[08:30] <CientificoLoco> nubbie when I use  icecast2 -b -c /etc/icecast2/icecast.xml it say that FATAL: error parsing config file (/etc/icecast2/icecast.xml)
[08:30] <CientificoLoco> XML config parsing error
[08:30] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: #icecast
[08:30] <bthornton> nabdan: or, even better, key-based auth
[08:30] <nabdan> oki so i can sleep well ?
[08:31] <bthornton> nabdan: not if you have bad passwords :p
[08:31] <Nubbie> cientificoloco: i don't know the specifics involved with icecast, sorry.
[08:31] <nabdan> yop that is the point
[08:31] <Kayleah> Thanks guys for the help, I am going to close this crazy chat
[08:31] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, i thought of those settings..."card=XX tuner=XX" but i checkt different settings
[08:31] <nabdan> may iask you a link or some explanation ?
[08:31] <bthornton> nabdan: really, key-based authentication is the best way to avoid brute-force attacks.  You use that and disable standard password auth.
[08:31] <nabdan> sounds goosd :)
[08:31] <nabdan> good
[08:32] <velko> nabdan, you may take a look at this howto too http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/342
[08:32] <Nubbie> nabdan: 11 random digits/letters makes for a good password.
[08:32] <bthornton> nabdan: I'm in the same boat as you, though--I know I need to implement it, but haven't gotten around to it.  But you probably don't have to search far to find out how.
[08:32] <nabdan> thanks a lot !
[08:32] <tgm4883> commandercool, you might want to check a more specialized room (ie a room about tvcards) rather than general help.  #ubuntu-mythtv deals primarily with mythtv, but we may be able to help you there
[08:32] <t0lkman> help configure genius webcam
[08:32] <CommanderCool> tgm4883, okay, thank you then
[08:33] <t0lkman> how can i install it..
[08:33] <soothsay> I see that fstab uses a UUID instead of /dev/sda1. What tool do I use to add devices to the fstab?
[08:33] <zach382> whats a good ubuntu based distobution, that has more programs and such?
[08:33] <tgm4883> commandercool, sorry i couldn't be more help
[08:33] <soothsay> zach382: What do you mean 'more programs'?
[08:33] <instabin> ween Windows adn ubuntu
 instsabin: there are guides on the ubuntu forums, search/rea
[08:33] <sebrock> can't anybody please tell me how to update nvidia drivers to the lates from their site?
[08:33] <instabin> wops
[08:33] <zach382> more programs insalled by defalut
[08:34] <zach382> for computers without internet access
[08:34] <psusi> soothsay: you use your favorite text editor
[08:34] <soothsay> psusi: Yes. However I don't quite understand this UUID business. Is it created by a front-end?
[08:35] <NuTTyRoB> Busy in here?
[08:35] <nrl> hi, i've setup ssh to forward port 80 from a machine intranet.company.com through a machine i have access to and i can now get the intranet by pointing my browser to localhost:port where port is the port i sent it to. however is there anyway to alias intranet.company.com to localhost:port so i won't have to remember the port number?
[08:35] <instabin> How do i fix this error. I get it when I try to use pop3 or isp config Error: Password error: Maildir: No such file or directory
[08:35] <nabdan> thanks all for help you provide :)
[08:35] <lgc> Nubbie, do you have an idea why the main menu gets messed up when I install something with a menu entry?
[08:35] <MarcC_> when I put the line "username map = /etc/samba/smbusers" in the conf file, do I put my own username in there?
[08:35] <Kassah> anyone?
[08:35] <Nubbie> lgc: i haven't the slightest idea.
[08:35] <Nubbie> lgc: you're using gnome's default menu though right?
[08:36] <lgc> Nubbie, yes.
[08:36] <Nubbie> lgc: i dunno then.
[08:36] <stork> my "$)(&%($&% scroll wheel doesn't work!!!!
[08:36] <psusi> soothsay: "created by"?
[08:36] <stork> on firefox, when i scroll with the wheel, it changes page back and forward! how do i fix this???
[08:36] <psusi> soothsay: the uuid is created by the utility that formatted that partition... it is a randomly generated number stored in the boot sector
[08:37] <Whitor> I'm trying to get beryl working... I just came from #ubuntu-effects and was instructed to run sudo lrm-manager and then sudo modprobe fglrx ... after running both of these and then logging into my XGL session and starting beryl-manager I have to enter LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa beryl and then it works
[08:37] <soothsay> psusi: I see. So how do I retrieve it?
[08:37] <NuTTyRoB> lo when i go to services it comes up i have no access to the system configuration after putting in the root pass and for the users and groups
[08:37] <mynnx_> My dual-monitor setup is giving me a blank login screen and the ubuntu drums that indicate I'm actually in gdm...does anyone have any ideas?
[08:37] <t0lkman> another question how can i change cpu frequency ?
[08:37] <Kassah> can anyone at least tell me how to get the HD's UUID so I can add the hard drive to my /etc/fstab?
[08:37] <psusi> soothsay: by specifying the uuid instead of the device name in fstab, the disk can still be mounted even if it moves to a different device name
[08:37] <lgc> Nubbie, do you have an idea why the main menu is walking towards the right on my panel and it almost reaches the right edge? How can I reset the positions of the icons on the panel?
[08:37] <instabin> How do i fix this error. I get it when I try to use pop3 or isp config Error: Password error: Maildir: No such file or directory
[08:37] <phoul> Hello everyone, Im currently a openbsd user X ubuntu user etc. The last time i used ubuntu was..... the hedgehog one i think.... has there been many improvements since?
[08:37] <Whitor> Why do I have to run lrm-manager each time before a modprobe fglrx ?
[08:37] <psusi> soothsay: fsck might print it
[08:37] <emyr_> hi all
[08:37] <velko> Kassah, blkid
[08:38] <Kassah> velko: thanks!
[08:38] <stork> on firefox, when i scroll with the wheel, it changes page back and forward! why doesn't it scroll up and down.. ?
[08:38] <Crav> is there a keyboard command (similar to alt+tab) to switch workspaces?
[08:39] <velko> Crav, default is "alt+control" + arrow key (or workspace number)
[08:39] <Xappe> Crav: ctrl+alt+arrow
[08:39] <GrosNaz> Crav ctrl +alt+left
[08:39] <Kassah> velko: doesn't show the new ext3 partition on the new drive I just mounted...
[08:39] <Kassah> velko: do I need to generate a UUID for it?
[08:40] <BrokenLinux> When opening windows they always open in the top left of the screen (like opening a nautilus window or creating a new email in thunderbird)...Is there a way to get windows to remember their locations?
[08:40] <psusi> stork: because your mouse driver is screwed up and is confusing buttons 4 and 5 with buttons 6 and 7
[08:40] <BrokenLinux> Can anyone help me with this?
[08:40] <hooloovoo> Can anyone tell me how to add a user to a existing group?
[08:40] <Crav> is there a way to get more than the default 2 work spaces?
[08:40] <stork> psusi, so i change ZAxisMapping from "4 5" to "6 7" ?
[08:40] <velko> Kassah, no. find it out with "tune2fs -l | grep -i uuid"
[08:41] <velko> Kassah, and the device name (of course)
[08:41] <psusi> stork: in firefox?  you changed it to 4 5?
[08:41] <Vaske_Car> Is there a fix for Spamassassin not working after upgrade to 7.04?
[08:41] <velko> Kassah, tune2fs -l /dev/XYZ | grep -i uuid
[08:41] <Kassah> cool
[08:41] <lgc> Nubbie ?
[08:41] <NuTTyRoB> lo when i go to services it comes up i have no access to the system configuration after putting in the root pass and for the users and groups aswell :(
[08:42] <psusi> stork: the scroll wheel should be buttons 4 and 5, and the forward/back buttons should be 6 and 7
[08:42] <Nubbie> lgc: i told you i don't know why your panel is messed up.
[08:42] <instabin> could someone help me with my email server?
[08:42] <mynnx_> My dual-monitor setup is giving me a blank login screen and the ubuntu drums that indicate I'm actually in gdm...does anyone have any ideas?
[08:42] <Nubbie> lgc: try removing it and adding it again.
[08:42] <Jomjom> exit
[08:42] <lgc> Nubbie, that was a past question. The last one was...
[08:42] <lgc> Nubbie, do you have an idea why the main menu is walking towards the right on my panel and it almost reaches the right edge? How can I reset the positions of the icons on the panel?
[08:43] <jexd> (i'm on xubuntu) i am trying to install sun java jre 6 from synaptic but it keeps hanging and refuses to move. what am i doing wrong?
[08:43] <^jcole> can anyone recommend a linux wysiwyg html editor? i used to use nvu, but it's gone from the repos :(
[08:43] <instabin> could some one help me with postfix
[08:43] <GrosNaz> hooloovoo : adduser user groupe
[08:43] <lgc> Nubbie, by the way, killing gnome-panel did the trick. Thanks.
[08:43] <emyr_> hello everyone :)
[08:43] <dyrne> jexd: wireless?
[08:43] <jexd> dynre, no
[08:44] <instabin> Nubbie: you know anything about server?
[08:44] <dyrne> jexd: you shouldnt have a problem installing the package.. what country are you in
[08:44] <jexd> dyrne, USA
[08:44] <stork> !sound
[08:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:44] <pinto> hey
[08:45] <jexd> i'm going to try installing v 5 instead of 6 and see if that makes a difference
[08:45] <dyrne> jexd: id try closing synaptic then from a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  remove the us. prefix from all the urls save and then run sudo apt-get update.  maybe synaptic will download ok after that
[08:45] <jexd> dyrne, alright i'll give it a try
[08:45] <jl> i readed the beryl wiki page but i still don't know whats the best option for an intel i915 graphics card... xgl or aiglx?
[08:45] <Tr0gd0r> what different about the alternate version of ubuntu?
[08:46] <Jomjom> test
[08:46] <pinto> everytime i need to install software via apt-get install i get stopped by VMware installation i never finished
[08:46] <pinto> Now configuring VMware Player.  (This may take some time...)
[08:46] <dyrne> Tr0gd0r: its the old text installer. doesnt need X
[08:46] <pinto> how can i cancel that installation of vmware?
[08:46] <Demetrious> Jomjom: Test passed.
[08:46] <Tr0gd0r> dyrne does it allow you to install lilo isntead of grub?
[08:46] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Still here?
[08:47] <mynnx_> yep
[08:47] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  yep
[08:47] <tmn> Hi! .. just wondering, how do I get the php4-mysql packages for ubuntu feisty?
[08:47] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  let me give you some addresses
[08:47] <tmn> I want to use Apache 1.3 and php4 with my Ubuntu.. because my main server does the same
[08:47] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Sorry about that.  I'm at my office and had to take a call.  Might still get interrupted, but I have a minute or two...
[08:47] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  It's okay
[08:48] <pinto> can anyone tell me how do i Cancel an Unfinished installation on apt-get
[08:48] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  This is my Xorg.0.log file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17434/  and here's the xorg.conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17430/ - xorg.conf_dual
[08:48] <tjb13> hey guys is there a good guide for getting beryl to work with ATI cards in feisty
[08:48] <tjb13> feisty final
[08:49] <robokop> i have some problems with X, sometimes it just is black for 1/2 seccond, and comes back afterwards
[08:49] <GrosNaz> pinto : crtl + c in console or try to kill the process by the pid (top)
[08:49] <dyrne> Tr0gd0r: dunno
[08:49] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Looking.
[08:49] <shine> can someone help me. I can't get my xubuntu to log into the internet (wired). when I try mii-tool eth0, it says SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not permitted
[08:50] <devasura> hi i am having problems (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17445/) with my usb hard drive can u suggest something, I have tried google but alas could not get a proper answer.
[08:50] <Whitor> Every time... in order to get beryl working, after a reboot I have to type: sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx and then  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa beryl  .... How do I make that automatic?
[08:51] <robinhood> I try to create a user account from being logged in as root. I use the Users and Groups from the System menu. After creating the use account I load the program again and the user I created disappears... hy can't i create a new user?
[08:52] <psusi> robinhood: you can't log in to the gui as root
[08:52] <robinhood> psusi, yes you can
[08:52] <robinhood> I am
[08:52] <robinhood> I'm using XChat to try to get help...
[08:52] <velko> devasura, doe this drive worked with linux before the reformat?
[08:52] <psusi> not unless you modified your g-d-m configuration
[08:52] <hivemind> Even if you couldn't, couldn't you just make a user with the same privs as the superuser?
[08:52] <Crav> all the sudden, my firefox has stopped working. It loads the 'starting firefox webbrowser' in the bottom toolbar, than disappears - any ideas?
[08:52] <shine> can someone help me. I can't get my xubuntu to log into the internet (wired). when I try mii-tool eth0, it says SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not permitted
[08:53] <robinhood> psusi, it's a simple security setting
[08:53] <SlimeyPete> Crav: run it from a terminal and see if any errors appear
[08:53] <psusi> by default root is not allowed to login to the gui... the user admin link on the menu runs it via gksudo to get root access
[08:53] <Whitor> Crav: does it show up in alt-tab ?
[08:53] <EvilDennisR> what irc network is #wine on ?
[08:53] <shine> can someone help me. I can't get my xubuntu to log into the internet (wired). when I try mii-tool eth0, it says SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not permitted
[08:53] <Crav> Whitor: the window never even comes up
[08:53] <yxairyggen> shine, what does 'ifconfig' say?
[08:54] <robokop> EvilDennisR: freenode?
[08:54] <Whitor> Crav: I'm wondering if its coming up off screen
[08:54] <psusi> shine: sudo
[08:54] <Crav> Whitor: no, it's not on alt+tab
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> robokop: its not #wine, its something else isn't it ?
[08:54] <dyrne> EvilDennisR: /join #winehq
[08:54] <robokop> i have some problems with X, sometimes it just is black for 1/2 seccond, and comes back afterwards
[08:54] <devasura> velco no this is the first time i am trying in linux, i bought it today
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> dyrne: Ahh yes, thats it
[08:54] <Whitor> run it from a terminal window and see if errors show up
[08:54] <Toma-> .j #ubuntu-classroom
[08:54] <Crav> Whitor: what's the command from terminal?
[08:55] <Whitor> firefox ... I think
[08:55] <robokop> Crav: firefox
[08:55] <devasura> velco the vendor showed me that its getting detected in win-xp
[08:55] <Crav> Whitor: it thinks for a second, nothing happens, that it's ready for a new command
[08:55] <velko> devasura, it's a very strange problem for sure. it gets recognized by the kernel, but not by fdisk. i haven't seen such thing before. sorry
[08:55] <shine> well it says a lot of things. it has eth0, eth0:avah, lo. it seems every single one has 0 for RX/TX packets, errors, dropped, overruns, and i don't have an iet address for eth0, but do for the other two
[08:55] <tim2k> Hi, i have "trouble" with the ubuntu boot-splash screen and reiserfs....as soon as the fsck runs during boot the splash image disapears and the "ugly" console tells me that everything is fine :-/
[08:55] <YetiChick> mynxx:  I'm seeing this line: Display Info: DFP2 (second digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,2059)
[08:56] <aska1> Anyone knows a good place to find nice black&white wallpaper?
[08:56] <devasura> velco do you know where i can find answers
[08:56] <Whitor> Crav: I'm a newbie here... I cant help beyond this
[08:56] <dyrne> aska1: deviantart maybe
[08:56] <velko> devasura, no. else i would have pointed you there
[08:56] <YetiChick> mynxx:  While you're configure to use that as one of your displays...  You sure it's connected?
[08:56] <Crav> aska1: 4chan.org go to the wallpapers/general board
[08:56] <robokop> Crav: try firefox -safe-mode
[08:56] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  Let me try to run it again with it connected
[08:57] <mynnx_> it's "mynNx, btw" :^)
[08:57] <YetiChick> mynxx:  'kay...
[08:57] <AaronMT_> aska1 interfacelift.com
[08:57] <Whitor> Every time.. after a reboot I have to type: sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx and then  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa beryl  .... How do I make this automatic?
[08:57] <Crav> robokop: i'm getting nothing
[08:57] <Kaepora> hello, i am having problems with using 7.04. apparently there's quite a large bug with booting up x.org. i've filed a luanchpad bug but have received no replies. i would deeply appreciate your help. here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418673
[08:58] <dyrne> Whitor: you could just add it to the start portion of the  /etc/init.d/gdm script i guess
[08:58] <psusi> devasura: you need to run fdisk as root.. .sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:58] <nukuuuu> QUESTION, How do I edit the GRUB from the liveCD when I go sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst I get nothing. I think because this is the grub of the CD?
[08:58] <Kaepora> hello, i am having problems with using 7.04. apparently there's quite a large bug with booting up x.org. i've filed a luanchpad bug but have received no replies. i would deeply appreciate your help. here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418673
[08:58] <devasura> ya as root otherwise it wont run
[08:58] <ekul`> whats the equivilent of Ctlr+Alt+delete in ubuntu to close down a nonresponding program?
[08:58] <Whitor> dyrne: thanks I'll try that
[08:59] <robokop> Crav: can you run other programs?
[08:59] <Crav> robokop: everything else is running just fine
[08:59] <psusi> devasura: in your link there you didn't sudo fdisk whic his why it said it couldn't read /dev/sda
[08:59] <Tiger_> hi, somebody could post link for downloading 7.04 dvd format
[08:59] <dyrne> nukuuuu: sudo fdisk -l  when it shows you the parition do for example sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt then sudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.list
[08:59] <bhtb> is this a class?
[08:59] <devasura> i tried sfdisk :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17449/
[08:59] <robokop> type which firefox
[08:59] <Kaepora> hello, i am having problems with using 7.04. apparently there's quite a large bug with booting up x.org. i've filed a luanchpad bug but have received no replies. i would deeply appreciate your help. here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418673
[08:59] <Whitor> The person who got me to this point in #ubuntu-Effects said the mod probe thing should be automatic ...
[08:59] <tim2k> ekul=just click on the X button
[08:59] <robokop> i have some problems with X, sometimes it just is black for 1/2 seccond, and comes back afterwards
[08:59] <nukuuuu> dyrne will give it a try :)thank
[08:59] <Crav> robokop: /usr/bin/firefox
[08:59] <devasura> no i did it from root shell
[09:00] <tim2k> ekul: if that doesn't help you have to use the console
[09:00] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Yeah, it still doesn't work
[09:00] <CommanderCool> /q
[09:00] <Kaepora> alright fine, don't answer me.
[09:00] <Kaepora> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[09:00] <ekul`> ah k
[09:00] <gotag3tsum> Can anybody help me with setting up Zeus with XChat?
[09:00] <gpled> have a python script in /etc/cron.hourly.    i can run it from command line.  it makes a log entry in syslog if it runs.  any idea why it is not running every hour?
[09:00] <ekul`> what do you type into console to close a program?
[09:00] <devasura> velco can you comment on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17449/
[09:00] <Crankymonky> Is there a way to get tasks to show on the calendar in evolution?
[09:00] <robokop> ekul`: ctr c
[09:00] <tim2k> ekul: you may use the 'ps' command to show all running processes like 'ps aux'
[09:00] <reydelsillon> argh. i just F up. im getting a error 17 from grub. How do i re/install grub as it should be? i have 1 sata disk with 1 ntfs partition and 1 ext3 partition with ubuntu.
[09:00] <magnetron> Hi! in a minute there will be a talk in #ubuntu-classroom about Patching packages, help by Martin Pitt. plz use #ubuntu-classroom-chat for questions
[09:00] <YetiChick> mynxx:  New xorg log with everything attached?  It does exactly the same thing with both attached, yes?
[09:01] <magnetron> !openweek
[09:01] <ubotu> openweek is Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for schedules, logs, and instructions.
[09:01] <dyrne> gpled: may sound silly but.. if you ./scriptname does it run?
[09:01] <devasura> should i go ahead and reformat it
[09:01] <mynnx> Yes, it does
[09:01] <gpled> dyrne: yep
[09:01] <tim2k> ekul: the output is usually to large..so reduce it with the grep command e.g.: ps aux | grep programmname
[09:01] <sherlock> Hi, i deleted the bottom toolbar in gnome, how do i get it back>??
[09:01] <MrGreen> can I transfer my mail settings to ubuntu?
[09:01] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Yes, it does (and it's mynnx, please)
[09:01] <Ralith> When using bash, feisty tells you the package of any commands you run that don't exist. How can I make this work in zsh?
[09:01] <jeroensum> MrGreen > yes you can
[09:01] <robokop> Crav: what if you just reinstall it, that whould be my try if i had problems with ff
[09:02] <mynnx> YetiChick:  I forgot to copy over the xorg log
[09:02] <pbal1> test
[09:02] <jeroensum> That is, if you're using outlook 9not express)
[09:02] <jeroensum> ?
[09:02] <MrGreen> so just copy from .thunderbird to .mozilla-thunderbird
[09:02] <velko> devasura, this gives some hope indeed. it looks like the partition table is borked. do you plan to use this drive under windows too? (and my nick is velko btw :-)
[09:02] <gpled> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root  477 2007-04-23 20:27 test.py
[09:02] <ekul`> thanks
[09:02] <ekul`> :)
[09:02] <kritzstapf> Ralith, i think its a patched bash so making it in zsh might be a different thing..
[09:02] <Crav> robokop: like reinstall from synaptic? I've already tired that. If I completely remove than reinstal, will that work better?
[09:02] <reydelsillon> argh. i just F up. im getting a error 17 from grub. How do i re/install grub as it should be? i have 1 sata disk with 1 ntfs partition and 1 ext3 partition with ubuntu.
[09:02] <gpled> thats the file in /etc/cron.hourly
[09:02] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Is there any way I can retrieve it now?
[09:02] <tim2k> ekul: there is also a progrmm named 'xkill' which might help you
[09:02] <tatster_> Hi.  I recently built a Feisty server running Bind for my internal domain.  DNS resolution and web browsing from a Feisty PC is fine, but DNS resolution against the same server from my Mac is very slow.  Any ideas why?
[09:02] <devasura> sorry velko
[09:02] <robokop> Crav: shouldn't be
[09:02] <MrGreen> jeroensum: old install ... wanted to move to new ubuntu onw
[09:02] <MrGreen> *one
[09:03] <devasura> i want to use it on windows too
[09:03] <cjsoftuk> I'm using ubuntu server edition and i'm trying to set up SNMPD to monitor the network connections.  Unfortunately I had it working on another server, but it doesn't work on my Ubuntu 7.04.  Anyone any ideas?  I get an SNMP response, just no network information
[09:03] <jeroensum> If you're allready a thunderbird man then you can indeed use the same files, maybe you need to import the files but prolly not
[09:03] <sherlock> tatster: did you look at /etc/resolve.conf
[09:03] <velko> devasura, np. but your comments are not highlighted else :-)
[09:03] <Ultra> hi
[09:03] <MrGreen> will give it a go thanks
[09:03] <Rio79> if i have ubuntu 6.06 lts SERVER running and I want to upgrade to 7.04 Desktop, whats the best way of going about it?  I've seen this site (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes) already, so i guess my main question is, how do i get from the server version to the desktop version?
[09:03] <jeroensum> NP :)
[09:03] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Sorry 'bout that.  Typed it wrong the first time and just edited my history for each new line.  :)
[09:03] <robokop> Crav: firefox -v
[09:03] <Ultra> is there a german room for ubuntu users?
[09:03] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Hah, that's okay
[09:03] <devasura> i am pretty new to IRC
[09:03] <Ultra> is there a german room for ubuntu users?
[09:03] <Crav> robokop: Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2007 mozilla.org
[09:03] <ompaul> Rio79, a new cd would be the best route and a fresh intsall
[09:04] <PriceChild> !de | Ultra
[09:04] <ubotu> Ultra: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:04] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Are you on the same machine now, using that other xorg.conf?
[09:04] <pinto> !pt
[09:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:04] <Ultra> thx
[09:04] <sherlock> Rio79: fully upgrade your 6.06 - then upgrade to edgy
[09:04] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[09:04] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Yes, I am
[09:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:04] <gpled> anyone have any ideas?
[09:04] <sherlock> then upgrade to feisty
[09:04] <d0lph1nK1ng> anyone know what driver to install for an ATI TV Wonder Elite tv tuner card?
[09:04] <Rio79> ompaul: i want to avoid that because that would entail backing up mediawiki
[09:04] <YetiChick> mynnx:  Depending on how many times you've restarted X, you might be able to send up Xorg.0.log.old
[09:05] <ompaul> Rio79, then do what sherlock said but back you your stuff
[09:05] <Rio79> sherlock: yeah, how do i do that?
[09:05] <Ultra> how it's?  /***** #ubuntu.de
[09:05] <Ultra> ah
[09:05] <Ultra> k
[09:05] <tatster_> sherlock: Yes - the only difference is that the Mac doesn't have an entry for domain
[09:05] <Crankymonky> Is there any way to get the task list in evolution to be displayed on top of the calendar as if they were all individual events?
[09:05] <devasura> velko: I will try reformatting then
[09:05] <tatster_> sherlock: they both have nameserver 192.168.02.53  and search warren.local
[09:05] <velko> devasura, give it a shot
[09:06] <CyberSnooP> Hi. Has anyone experienced  "Internal Error"s with azureus in 7.04?
[09:06] <sherlock> Rio79, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[09:06] <mynnx> YetiChick:  It appears to be the same:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17451/
[09:06] <cjsoftuk> Any ideas anyone about configuring Net-SNMP to report network connections?
[09:06] <sherlock> then once you reach fiesty - sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, do you mean a Cacti like setup?
[09:07] <MrGreen> one other thing I need to sort with mew install is up my screen res...
[09:07] <alectbm> helo
[09:07] <YetiChick> mynnx:  The primary difference I'm seeing between your working config for single-display and your non-working dual-display config is the monitor defs.  Since you're using DPMS, try commenting out the horiz sync and vertrefresh lines in the monitor sections.
[09:07] <sherlock> Tatster, sry i dont think im the person to ask
[09:07] <MrGreen> need 1280X1024
[09:07] <alectbm> i have an computer i want to install
[09:07] <tatster_> Ok - thanks anyway
[09:07] <alectbm> linux on
[09:07] <jeroensum> MrGreen,  do you have a Nvidia or Ati card?
[09:07] <sherlock> alectbm, do it
[09:07] <MrGreen> nvidia
[09:07] <alectbm> its have an 233MHz procesor
[09:07] <robokop> Crav: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[09:08] <jeroensum> do you allready have the nvidia drivers installed?
[09:08] <riaal> how do I disconnect from a wireless network but still keep the interface up? removing it fron /etc/network/interfaces don't seam to help
[09:08] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: I'm not sure what you mean. I want to be able to get the traffic values (as in ifconfig) through SNMP, i've done it before, just I dunno HOW!
[09:08] <MrGreen> yes
[09:08] <YetiChick> mynnx:  You also might want to remove any modes you *don't* want from the "Display" sections.
[09:08] <Rio79> okay thanks sherlock!
[09:08] <tatster_> sherlock: I might pop over to a Bind channel and see what response I get there.  Thanks
[09:08] <dyrne> alectbm: want a gui?
[09:08] <sherlock> alectbm, you want to good DAMN SMALL LINUX
[09:08] <cmatheson> i can't get the vmware web-access plugin to work in firefox on feisty... i just get a grey box where the plugin should be displayed (the plugin is installed)
[09:08] <sherlock> alectbm, its the best for old hardware
[09:08] <alectbm> is it good enogh fore 7.04
[09:08] <dyrne> alectbm: vector linux is nice. damn small linux i guess as well
[09:08] <jeroensum> MrGreen, try the nvidia-xconfig tool then
[09:09] <yxairyggen> I have always wondered why the terminal sometimes say "There are jobs stoped" when i do a Ctrl+D?
[09:09] <sherlock> alectbm, def not - but how much ram u got
[09:09] <MrGreen> got it ....
[09:09] <gpled> should i be asking this /etc/cron.hourly question in a diffrent channel?
[09:09] <MrGreen> thanks man
[09:09] <MrGreen> its sweert
[09:09] <jeroensum> np :)
[09:09] <alectbm> vector linux and DSL is best to old maschines
[09:09] <niekie> Greetings, could anybody give me any hints as to what I would be doing wrong? I decided to try and enable music sharing in RhythmBox, and it works fine! Just out of curiousity I decided to try also connecting to the share from iTunes though (from another PC) and instead of music, I just got static.
[09:09] <MrGreen> nvidia-settings
[09:09] <mynnx> YetiChick:  Alright, I'm going to try it with the refresh rates commented out
[09:09] <riaal> please, can I disconnect from an AP from the terminal? removing it fron /etc/net./inter. don't seam to help..
[09:09] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, cacti is an snmp-traffic management tool
[09:09] <alectbm> 2 sec
[09:09] <jeroensum> its not wat youe looking for i'm afraid
[09:10] <alectbm> atm 126MB
[09:10] <Mart> irc.slashnet.org
[09:10] <cmatheson> has anyone been able to get the vmware web-access plugin working in ubuntu (feisty)?
[09:10] <tatster_> cmatheson: Do you mean the VMware Mui?
[09:10] <kane77> can I get the compiz to be other session? eg so I choose at startup wether the normal gnome or compiz should be launched...
[09:10] <MrGreen> jeroensum: 8) a couple more days should be good to go ... thought automatix2 was loaded by default
[09:10] <sherlock> alectbm, yes but if you r knew to linux - it can take some gettin use too
[09:10] <cmatheson> tatster_: yes, i think so
[09:10] <devasura> velko: the remaining o/p http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17452/
[09:11] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: Right, well what i'm trying to do is use Cricket (cricket.sf.net) to display network traffic.  For that I need SNMP, which is supported through the router-interfaces config.  I can do the cricket bit, it's just gettting SNMP to show data to start with!
[09:11] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, ::  give gkrellm a try  (gkrellm-snmp if im correct)
[09:11] <chris__> hey all, I just installed ubuntu on an old PC and my sound card got skipped over, instead it shows up in the device manager as pcspkr-- any ideas how to get alsa to recognize it?
[09:11] <devasura> so i guess back to square one
[09:11] <alectbm> getting use?
[09:11] <tatster_> cmatheson: The web GUI on port 8333 where you can see the Vm's and power them on and off etc??
[09:11] <GionnyBoss> riaal: what would you exactly do? just disconnect? If you want to connect to a specified AP, try "man iwconfig" :P
[09:11] <alectbm> ok
[09:11] <cmatheson> tatster_: mine is just on port 80, but yeah, you can power the machines on, reboot, or see the console (the console is the portionn where the plugin is required)
[09:12] <GG> why the wlan interface returns the message device not found and ifconfig does not shows wlan0 ?
[09:12] <tatster_> Yep - I got that working on Feisty a couple of evening's ago
[09:12] <Crav> robokop: i completely reinstalled and restarted, everything's fine now, thanks for the help
[09:12] <velko> devasura, very bad
[09:12] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: right idea, but I'm trying to log it all to RRDTool through Cricket
[09:13] <dyrne> GG: sudo ifconfig -a   shows it or no?  also maybe cat /etc/iftab.  is this a removable card or pci?
[09:13] <leonidasthegr8> hello everyone, can i get some help with openoffice?
[09:13] <Rio79> sherlock: clarification question... dont i need to go from 6.06 server to 6.06 desktop first (then go to 6.10, then 7.)?
[09:13] <alectbm> thanx
[09:13] <velko> devasura, you get this when you try to write with "sfdisk /dev/sda" i suppose?
[09:13] <devasura> dd seems to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17453/
[09:13] <Rio79> 7.04
[09:13] <GG> its a usb adapter and ifconfig -a shows only eth0 - lo - eth0:avahi ( something like that )
[09:14] <leonidasthegr8> is there an open office chanel?
[09:14] <dyrne> GG: what does lsusb say?
[09:14] <devasura> ya sfdisk /dev/sda
[09:14] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, the rrdtool needs to be local and configured, maybe you need some MIB strings if they are nog provided yet. The RRDtool does the local collection through a cronjob (if memeory serves me right) and cricket is a sort of daemon with a web interface where you can view graphs
[09:14] <GG> only a 1385:4251 ( i think )
[09:15] <dyrne> GG: what model adaptor?
[09:15] <GG> wg111t usb adapter from netgear
[09:15] <velko> devasura, it does not work with /dev/sda but it works with /dev/sda1? can you try again with "/dev/sda"?
[09:15] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: everything is fine EXCEPT SNMP.  It works fine on another box, except when I copy the config, it doesn't work!
[09:15] <deCon> i dont think i am running as efficiently as possible, because i've got a dual core and i'm noticing severe lag
[09:15] <tatster_> leonidasthegr8: #openoffice.org
[09:15] <leonidasthegr8> thanx
[09:15] <deCon> i'm using amarok and firefox and my CPU keeps jumping to 100 and back down
[09:16] <deCon> any tips?
[09:16] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, there isn't anything in the way like a iptables?
[09:16] <aramaki> hi! I just got the Feisty DVD and I have a qucik question: I'd like to install it on an external usb HDD while leaving windows on the internal HDD alone (don't want grub there) so it would boot from USB only when I connect the external drive. Is there anything I should know in advance?
[09:16] <devasura> velko, i/o error with sda
[09:16] <cjsoftuk> not that I'm aware off
[09:16] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, also check if the local loopback adapter is up en running
[09:16] <dyrne> GG: looks like you need to use ndiswrapper (windows driver) see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2464643
[09:16] <dadan_1> i have an intel celerom 2400 processor with nvidia 5200 videocard (128 MB RAM) with 768 MB RAM and i recently downloaded a HDTV movie. My little problem is that with vlc and even mplayer i observe a slight (but noticeable) gap while watching the movie, my question is: my configuration is poor for that kind of movies or i have to change some settings?thanx
[09:16] <robokop> i have some problems with X, sometimes it just is black for 1/2 seccond, and comes back afterwards
[09:16] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: I can get SNMP responses, just without the netowrk info
[09:16] <AngryElf_> How am Isupposed to get the proprietary ATI driver working if it only supports xorg 7.1?
[09:17] <devasura> velko, there was no sda1 device file before, i dont know when it got created
[09:17] <psusi> aramaki: unplug the internal disk before installing
[09:17] <velko> devasura, sfdisk showed it
[09:17] <GG> i have tried that ndiswrapper - madwifi etc. .. . the only error is that  interface wlan0
[09:17] <GG> i will try again
[09:17] <aramaki> psusi: no other way?
[09:17] <Ernz> Just some info for anyone interested in NON-DELL, Ubuntu preloaded, high spec machines: UK only - www.efficientpc.co.uk >> Excellent prices and service - all systems come preloaded with Ubuntu and long term customer support
[09:17] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, then I've got no clues left, sorry. It could be that the config is looking at a wrong adapter? (ath0 in stead of eth0 o eth1) ?
[09:17] <fbarcenas> How do I change my default ftp back to gnome or nautilus or whatever? I told firefox to be the default browser not knowing it would take over ftp functions as well.
[09:17] <psusi> aramaki: that's the easiest way
[09:17] <devasura> velco, but sfdisk too gave i/o error right!!!!
[09:18] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: it's not getting ANY adaptor
[09:18] <imbecile> can someone tell me how to add my city in gdesklets weather app?
[09:18] <devasura> velko,  but sfdisk too gave i/o error right!!!!
[09:18] <aramaki> psusi: it's a laptop so it's kinda annoying to remove the drive if I don't have to
[09:18] <velko> devasura, it looks like linux is really having problems with sector 0 on this device. this is the most important sector on a hdd. can you access the drive with windows? and repartition perhaps?
[09:18] <dadan_1> i have an intel celerom 2400 processor with nvidia 5200 videocard (128 MB RAM) with 768 MB RAM and i recently downloaded a HDTV movie. My little problem is that with vlc and even mplayer i observe a slight (but noticeable) gap while watching the movie, my question is: my configuration is poor for that kind of movies or i have to change some settings?thanx
[09:18] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, are you sure then that the config file is looking at the correct adapter?
[09:18] <AngryElf_> !ati
[09:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:18] <fbarcenas> How do I change my default ftp back to gnome or nautilus or whatever? I told firefox to be the default browser not knowing it would take over ftp functions as well.
[09:19] <nuOpus_> Hello guys/gals!
[09:19] <AngryElf_> ubotu: dummy, you suck
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dummy, you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <dv5237_> how can i check if my ssh server is running atm.
[09:19] <AngryElf_> ubotu: there's nothing on that page about feisty, go home
[09:19] <velko> devasura, yes. but look again here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17449/ . four partitions!
[09:19] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: It's not reporting ANY network data, none at all.  I get SNMP responses with snmpwalk, but no iFace stuff
[09:19] <aramaki> psusi: FC6 gave me lot's of trouble when I tried to install it on the ext HDD
[09:19] <Pelo> dadan_1,   7/10 for a question,   but 2/10 for clarity,   what do you mean by gap ?
[09:19] <AngryElf_> ubotu: you're dumb bot
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you're dumb bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <jl> does somebody installed oracle10g XE?
[09:19] <Cosmo_> this is wierd, since installing fiesty when I leave my computer for an extended period of time programs are still running but it stops accepting mouse or keyboard commands, I can still move the mouse pointer around the screen but when I click nothing responds. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:20] <PhilK> dadan_1: you mean it's glitchy or it's going out of sync?
[09:20] <dyrne> dadan_1: maybe try a diff video out like mplayer -vo x11 movie.avi  your specs seem fine.. you using nvidia driver not vesa  or nv?
[09:20] <jeroensum> cjsoftuk, check the config file of rrdtool and match that with the adapters listed in ifconfig
[09:20] <psusi> aramaki: well then, I'd say install, then manually reinstall grub to the external drive, then use a windows cd to fix the mbr on the internal disk
[09:20] <robokop> dv5237_: ssh 127.0.0.1
[09:20] <devasura> velko, but all three are empty right
[09:20] <dadan_1> pelo: i can watch the movie but it seems that my machin is not good for that kind of big movies
[09:20] <nuOpus_> Does anyone know how I would go about changing the DEFAULT password of the keyring?
[09:20] <kane77> how can I set default printout mode for a printer? in dapper there was only setting inside printer preferences and all apps used this setting, now it's in all printing dialogs and now it asks me every time.
[09:20] <dadan_1> not good enought
[09:20] <jl> i have a problem with the apex web interface it doesn't start
[09:20] <aramaki> psusi: :) that's what I'd like to avoid LOL
[09:20] <cjsoftuk> jeroensum: rrdtool extracts the data via SNMP, therefore SNMP needs to report the data!
[09:20] <fbarcenas> Cosmo_, try the alternative install.
[09:20] <devasura> velko, and there are no sda2 3 4
[09:20] <aramaki> psusi: FC6 all over again
[09:20] <EricL> Can someone give me an apt resposity for the ia32 lib for Edgy?
[09:21] <fbarcenas> Cosmo_, try the alternative install.
[09:21] <fbarcenas> How do I change my default ftp back to gnome or nautilus or whatever? I told firefox to be the default browser not knowing it would take over ftp functions as well.
[09:21] <PhilK> dadan_1: you're going to have to be more clear with how it's glitching, that machine should be fast enough for HD content
[09:21] <dv5237_> robokop: thanks it works
[09:21] <randomc0de> hey, I have 3 quick questions: 1. How do you turn off the status message "blah has entered the room" on IRC. 2. When you type in a word and the small search bar comes up (I'm assuming this is Nautilus' doing), is it possible to move to the next/previous word like in Firefox. 3. I have a mounted SSH folder through the "Connect to Server" GUI, but Gvim isn't recognizing the ssh:// URL to mean "open this remote file", is there anyway to do this usin
[09:21] <PMantis> My Edgy install recently started doing this every time apt-get runs: "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version \n 2.6.17-11-generic on running kernel 2.6.17-11-generic in /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs"... Help?
[09:21] <dyrne> dadan_1: i have a media box 500mhz crappy old 16mb vid card that is running xp (had to) that plays high res fine
[09:21] <velko> devasura, yes. is it an option for you to try to erase the parition table with windows? or to replace the drive? this is all very strange
[09:21] <aramaki> psusi: any more specifics on reinstalling grub later?
[09:21] <Pelo> dadan_1,  descrive how it looks
[09:21] <psusi> aramaki: or I think if you use the alternate install cd, you can have the installer either skip or customize the grub install, and manually install it to the external disk
[09:21] <dadan_1> pelo: the sympthom is just like when u're trying to playe a movie on a weak machine
[09:21] <dyrne> dadan_1: mplayer on xp
[09:21] <aramaki> psusi: there's an option to skip grub install...let me check
[09:22] <PhilK> dadan_1: have you tried XvMC with mplayer?
[09:22] <Tehkain> Anyone know with the 1.0-9755 are the reason wine gives me "X Error of failed request:  GLXBadDrawable"?
[09:22] <dadan_1> pelo: ubuntu
[09:22] <dadan_1> pelo: i haven't tryed
[09:22] <Pelo> dadan_1,  I wan't the one asking
[09:22] <jl> oracle10g xe inly works for dapper or it does for edgy and feisty too?
[09:22] <dadan_1> pelo: what is XvMC?
[09:22] <devasura> okay then i will experiment some more and report you bye and thanks
[09:23] <PhilK> dadan_1: mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc filename
[09:23] <devasura> velko, are you a regular here!!!!
[09:23] <PhilK> dadan_1: er, if you have an Nvidia card that is, otherwise we'll have to try something else
[09:23] <velko> devasura, yes. i'm pretty often here
[09:23] <jf123> help!!!
[09:23] <devasura> velko, cu then bye
[09:23] <PhilK> Pelo: ping ping ping >;)
[09:24] <olimpico> How can I get a good resolution on the consoles?
[09:24] <psusi> aramaki: you will need to edit /boot/grub/devices.map to point hd0 to the correct device for the usb drive
[09:24] <olimpico> And also how can I cahnge the resolution and frequency on the init splash screen?
[09:24] <Pelo> dadan_1,   philk asked you a question
[09:24] <olimpico> Is it possible?
[09:24] <deCon> hey, is amarok bad to use, i don't know why but my computer is running fairly slow....in Feisty. Any tips/links to speed things up?
[09:24] <deCon> is InitNG good?
[09:24] <velko> olimpico, you have to pass additional parameter vga to the kernel on boot
[09:24] <slackwarelife> there are meny problems with ati 8.35.6, I can help a user in launchpad, but I have many problem to instll it
[09:25] <aramaki> psusi: thanks! I'll probably be back later when i fck it up :D
[09:25] <PhilK> deCon: Amarok ran really slow for me (and I didn't like the interface that much), didn't really slow down the rest of the machine though (except during initial scan)
[09:25] <olimpico> velko: Which, how?
[09:25] <LjL> !away > lapland|AWAY    (lapland|AWAY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:25] <fbarcenas> How do I change my default ftp back to gnome or nautilus or whatever? I told firefox to be the default browser not knowing it would take over ftp functions as well.
[09:25] <olimpico> velko: Where can I find info about it?
[09:25] <^LesBuntu> hmmm, anyone using xchat?
[09:25] <dadan_1> i tryed from terminal to run mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc filename but i can't see the movie only the sound, sorry i'm a beginner
[09:25] <velko> olimpico, i'm looking for a link to get you started
[09:25] <tgm4883> ^LesBuntu, yea
[09:26] <PhilK> dadan_1: it's ok, that's what this room is for :)
[09:26] <^LesBuntu> Im new to both ubuntu and Xchat
[09:26] <dadan_1> of courese with the right "filename"
[09:26] <Dextorion> hey you guys. I've just installed latest ubuntu. All works just fine, but my graphic card. its a ati x1950. 2d works, but no 3d. Anyone know a good way to install fglrx or something like it?
[09:26] <julios> desktop wrecked (squares instead of letters) after 7.04 upgrade please help
[09:26] <olimpico> ^LesBuntu: I used to use xchat, then I discovered konversation
[09:26] <deCon> PhilK, think it could be firefox? Fox is using 110MB and amarok is using 60mb, but CPU use is jumping frequently either because of beagle, amarok, or firefox, in that order
[09:26] <fbarcenas> ^LesBuntu, I am.
[09:26] <^LesBuntu> when I try to add a server it doesnt stay in the program
[09:26] <lapland|AWAY> LjL: ok sorry :(
[09:26] <PhilK> dadan_1: you should have gotten an error from mplayer in the output, what was it?
[09:26] <riaal> please, can I disconnect from an AP from the terminal?
[09:26] <olimpico> velko: THanx a lot!! I really appreciate it!
[09:27] <riaal> please, can I disconnect from an wireless AP from the terminal?
[09:27] <PhilK> deCon: depends how much memory you have (god I hate Firefox, I wish it wasn't so good)
[09:27] <nuOpus_> Did I miss a solution to my question? sorry left for a min
[09:27] <dyrne> riaal: sudo ifdown devicename or sudo ifconfig devicename down
[09:27] <^LesBuntu> where are programs stored? (I used to a prgram files folder)
[09:27] <instabin> hello
[09:27] <riaal> dyrne, thanka a lot
[09:27] <olimpico> ...
[09:27] <robokop> i have some problems with X, sometimes it just is black for 1/2 seccond, and comes back afterwards, can sb help me with that
[09:28] <deCon> PhilK, i have a GB of the fastest available ddr, but its CPU thats lagging i think. Any ideas? is there various tips and tweaks for this crap?
[09:28] <riaal> dyrne, ifconfig dev down will turn the interface off, can I just disconnect from the AP and still have the interface up?
[09:28] <dadan_1> pelo: Forced video codec: ffmpeg12mc
[09:28] <dadan_1> Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x44495658.
[09:28] <Asterix_> what is a good linux alternative to winamp?
[09:28] <Dextorion> Asterix_: xmms
[09:28] <PhilK> dadan_1: stop annoying poor Pelo :)
[09:28] <Pelo> dadan_1,  I am not the one helping you ,  PhilK  is
[09:28] <Chousuke> xmms is not a good alternative anymore :/
[09:29] <dadan_1> sorry
[09:29] <Chousuke> it's obsolete
[09:29] <K3nto> hey can someone help me with the boot options menu thing? can i make it so that windows is at the top? or so that the menu only loads if i hold a key and windows is the default?
[09:29] <Chousuke> (mainly because GTK is obsolete)
[09:29] <instabin> could some one help me with postfix
[09:29] <dadan_1> philk: Forced video codec: ffmpeg12mc
[09:29] <dadan_1> Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x44495658.
[09:29] <robokop> Asterix_: xmms, Amarok, and many others
[09:29] <Dextorion> Chousuke: okies. I just installed ubuntu again so im kinda obsolete Oo
[09:29] <Asterix_> and these are all in the add/remove programs I assume
[09:29] <Dextorion> Anyone know how to get a x1950 ati card running?
[09:29] <slackwarelife> I really need help with ATI driver
[09:29] <PhilK> dadan_1: ok, try just mplayer -vo xv filename
[09:29] <riaal> can I disconnect from an wireless AP from the terminal? but still have the interface up?
[09:30] <mrcreativity> can anyone please tell me how to enable beryl at startup?
[09:30] <acidtabs> how come ubuntu 7.04 carry streamturner?
[09:30] <aramaki> psusi: ext drive should be HD1 in grub?   btw i booted of the DVD and chose the first option (start/install) it booted up the live cd, and from there I chose the install shortcut from the desktop, am I installing the live version or what, sorry for the dumb questions :)
[09:30] <Cnl_Delta> hi whats the recommended RAM to run ubuntu/kubuntu
[09:30] <acidtabs> don't carry
[09:30] <Cnl_Delta> *recommended amount of RAN
[09:30] <Cnl_Delta> *RAM
[09:30] <K3nto> what is the boot menu called when dual booting?
[09:30] <acidtabs> how come ubuntu 7.04 don't carry streamturner?
[09:30] <aramaki> Cnl_Delta: 512mb-1gb should be enough i think
[09:31] <robokop> riaal: why would you want to, but you can do iwconfig dev essid=""
[09:31] <PhilK> deCon: 1GB should be plenty, have you tried watching the processes in htop or System monitor to see which is spiking it?
[09:31] <sgtmattbaker> does anyone know if the special images made with ntfsclone 1.12.1 are compatible with version 1.13.1??
[09:31] <velko> olimpico, http://www.t94xr.net.nz/?p=167 . unfortunately i can't find a page where all possible parameters for "vga=" are listed. but you can lookup some of them here: http://members.cox.net/laitcg/new/kernel.html
[09:31] <deCon> PhilK, ya, its amarok and beagle and beagle-helper
[09:31] <sahafeez> is there a gnome version of aptitude
[09:31] <YetiChick> instabin: What's the problem?
[09:31] <dadan_1> PhilK: the same tiny gaps between certain frames...
[09:31] <Cnl_Delta> I need it for multitasking aramaki, multiple firefox tabs etc..
[09:31] <Dumahen> how can i access ntfs hdd ?
[09:31] <PhilK> deCon: Firefox might if flash is running, Amarok might if it's doing databasey stuff, and I haven't messed with beagle much.
[09:32] <robokop> sahafeez: synaptic
[09:32] <PhilK> dadan_1: is mplayer giving you any messages about slow output?
[09:32] <sahafeez> thanks
[09:32] <dadan_1> i tryed to assign bigger priority to the mplayer process but nothung changes
[09:32] <Dextorion> Anyone know how to get a x1950 ati card running?
[09:32] <aramaki> Cnl_Delta: well the more the better :)
[09:32] <PhilK> dadan_1: also, what type of file are you trying to play?  ubuntu's mplayer seems flaky with .ts files
[09:32] <aramaki> Cnl_Delta: firefox on windoze here usually eant about 700mb ram
[09:32] <fbarcenas> How do I change my default ftp back to gnome or nautilus or whatever? I told firefox to be the default browser not knowing it would take over ftp functions as well.
[09:33] <PhilK> dadan_1: is your CPU usage maxing out while mplayer is running
[09:33] <K3nto> how do i make a boot option (im dual booting) the top one on the list so that after the time runs out, its automatic?
[09:33] <deCon> PhilK, amarok has been refreshing my collection every so often, like constantly....
[09:33] <Cnl_Delta> kubuntu ain't windows..
[09:33] <aramaki> Cnl_Delta: yes, but firefox is firefox
[09:33] <dyrne> K3nto: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list  and edit to your hearts content :)
[09:33] <joeamined> hi
[09:33] <PhilK> deCon: I think there's a setting for that, but it's been awhile since I messed with Amarok :\
[09:33] <Cnl_Delta> k..
[09:34] <K3nto> awesome thanks
[09:34] <Pelo> !torrents > pelo
[09:34] <joeamined> i have a problem with feisty i had not with edgy
[09:34] <deCon> anyone know about InitNG for Feisty?
[09:34] <aramaki> Cnl_Delta: I haven't yet installed Ubuntu, but i had FC6 running with compiz/beryl and 512mb was waaay to small
[09:34] <K3nto> dyrne: the list was empty
[09:34] <joeamined> when feisty boots it throws a message "unable to allocate memory resource ..."
[09:35] <joeamined> what is it about ? can i fix it ?
[09:35] <velko> deCon, they decided for upstart. i suspect initng is not included at all
[09:35] <whtet> i have an issue configuring spamd, it's giving out error ""ERROR: Insufficient privileges. Retry as root"
[09:35] <dyrne> K3nto: menu.lst sorry
[09:35] <PhilK> Dane_: check caps/num-lock?
[09:35] <Dumahen> how can i access ntfs hdd ?
[09:35] <K3nto> k
[09:35] <Dane_> It's off PhilK
[09:36] <shirish> guys my fdisk was scanning for I guess file-system integrity, but it failed as saying 1.9% non-contiginous, now what should I do to make it right?
[09:36] <Dane_> PhilK How does a person reset or clear it and start over?  Do you have to reinstall the whole thing again from scratch?
[09:36] <slackwarelife> Dumahen: mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/yourxpdir
[09:36] <velko> shirish, this is not an error. it just shows the fragmentation level of the file system
[09:36] <PhilK> Dane_: caps or num-lock?  I know I see users hit numbers all the time with num-lock off (not trying to insult you, just checking)
[09:36] <dadan_1> PhilK: to max 87 %
[09:36] <velko> shirish, nothing to worry about
[09:36] <deCon> Philk, i think i could be running a better kernal, i'm using a 386, but i've got a dual core amd
[09:36] <Dane_> PhilK No insult taken, but no, that's not the problem.
[09:37] <Dane_> PhilK It's accepting upper and lower case just fine.
[09:37] <PhilK> Dane_: hit esc during boot (right when grub shows up), there's a recovery option which should throw you straight into a root console
[09:37] <Dane_> ok...
[09:37] <shirish> velko: ok cool, but why it should show as failed for fdisk ? and I have seen it happens I think every boot or every 2nd boot, is that normal?
[09:37] <PhilK> dadan_1: it really shouldn't be glitching @87%, that's strange
[09:37] <Dane_> PhilK Then what do I type to get into the right "thing?"
[09:37] <joeamined> i have a hp laptop with this bug with feisty
[09:37] <joeamined> PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@d0000000 for 0000:01:00.0
[09:38] <slackwarelife> Nobody has problem with new ATI driver ???
[09:38] <velko> shirish, failing is another story. it's not related to the fragmentation level at all
[09:38] <orbin> !ntfs > Dumahen (see pm from ubotu)
[09:38] <PhilK> Dane_: you'll be sitting at a root@hostname # prompt, type "passwd user", put in new password
[09:38] <aramaki> guys? with the Feisty DVD, I just choose the start/install, and it booted up the live cd, there's a shortcut for installing on the desktop but I'm not sure what is it going to install the live or normal Feisty?
[09:38] <bipolar> slackwarelife: what about the new ati driver?
[09:38] <velko> shirish, and no. it's not normal
[09:39] <prcrash> slackwarelife... I just now got mine working on a Dell D810 with an ATI x600
[09:39] <Dane_> PhilK thanks...trying it!
[09:39] <slackwarelife> bipolar: a user cannot install it on 7.04
[09:39] <PhilK> deCon: usually different kernels aren't drastically different in performance (IME), though sometimes weird issues show up on random systems
[09:39] <dadan_1> PhilK: that fact is that all the other regular movies are played well
[09:39] <bipolar> slackwarelife: please be more specific
[09:39] <PhilK> dadan_1: what kind of file is it?  does it play ok on another machine?
[09:39] <slackwarelife> I try to help him in a launchpad, but the log error file is to big for this situation
[09:40] <Pelo> how does one burn an iso to a cd in the command line ?
[09:40] <deCon> PhilK, i just did "top" and i noticed that i have all my memory taken up, and 103mb of swap....thats why, now i need to figure out how the hell to drop that
[09:40] <PhilK> dadan_1: I had a hell of a time getting full HD ts files playing without losing audio sync or stuttering :\
[09:40] <dadan_1> PhilK: i'll try it on other machine, thanx, bye
[09:40] <aramaki> with the Feisty DVD, I just choose the start/install, and it booted up the live cd, there's a shortcut for installing on the desktop but I'm not sure what is it going to install the live or normal Feisty?
[09:40] <viktor____> i get this messege when feisty is booting MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC and the laptop is getting too hot and turns off
[09:40] <velko> Pelo, using cdrecord
[09:40] <deCon> PhilK, and should it says 2 users? ....root and regular me??
[09:40] <bipolar> slackwarelife: what video card?
[09:40] <orbin> aramaki: live = normal
[09:40] <vega-> aramaki: the whole idea of a "live cd" is to run it from cd, so of course it installs the "normal feisty"
[09:40] <pbal1> HI - I put weather and invest applets on panel (7.04) They don't work and I cannot remove with right click
[09:40] <MajorApus> can someone help me mount my drives with fstab, the last 2 people to do it didn't do it right
[09:40] <PhilK> deCon: users at the prompt?
[09:41] <aramaki> thanks
[09:41] <jrjazzman> aramaki: that will install ubuntu
[09:41] <slackwarelife> bipolar: Ati 9250
[09:41] <dyrne> MajorApus: what format? ntfs, fat32, ext3?
[09:41] <deCon> PhilK, it says on the top line, 2 users
[09:41] <MajorApus> dyrne all 3
[09:41] <bipolar> slackwarelife: hmmm... that requires the 'legacy' fglrx driver.
[09:41] <prcrash> following this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[09:41] <bipolar> slackwarelife: I think....
[09:41] <PhilK> deCon: oh, in top duh, sorry.  yeah, that's fine
[09:41] <dyrne> MajorApus: so what problem are you running into?
[09:41] <prcrash> using method 2
[09:41] <deCon> PhilK, and my Cpu(s) line says 88+% id and only up to about 15% at any given moment on us
[09:41] <crdlb> slackwarelife, why are you using fglrx?
[09:41] <bipolar> slackwarelife: ATI has abandoned cards older then the 9600, iirc.
[09:41] <dyrne> MajorApus: maybe pastebin the fstab file that way we can edit it to correct
[09:42] <MajorApus> dyrne the system settings mount utility is so buggy I cant get it to do anything, so I need to do it by hand in fstab
[09:42] <slackwarelife> Bipolar: why restrict modules tool doesn't work with this card
[09:42] <PhilK> deCon: sort top by mem%
[09:42] <deCon> PhilK, does that mean i need to reduce background apps?
[09:42] <shirish> velko: if fdisk failing is not normal, what should I do about that?
[09:42] <Dextorion> Anyone know how to get a x1950 ati card running?
[09:42] <dyrne> MajorApus: yeah the utility kindof sucks
[09:42] <AmirB> I decided to uninstall beagle and in synaptics I selected for it to remove 'beagle' and 'libbeagle0', but when it was removing libbeagle it said that it was also removing nautilus and a couple other substantial packages!!! I have two questions: why did it remove those and how do I find out exactly what it removed so that I can get them back?
[09:42] <deCon> PhilK, command? i'm newb
[09:42] <bipolar> slackwarelife: becouse ATI hasn't updated the module to work with the new kernel.
[09:42] <velko> shirish, is this your root file system?
[09:42] <crdlb> slackwarelife, because ubuntu doesn't package the old driver
[09:42] <crdlb> slackwarelife, use the open source driver
[09:42] <PhilK> deCon: F (uppercase), then I think it's n (it should bring up a list)
[09:42] <LjL> Pelo: man cdrecord
[09:42] <MajorApus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17461/
[09:43] <jexd> will gnome panel applets work on the xfce4 panel (xubuntu)?
[09:43] <slackwarelife> bipolar: ok, but he is not be able to use 3d with radeo or ati driver
[09:43] <PhilK> deCon: also I highly recommend htop over top (it's prettier, and supports scrolling)
[09:43] <Pelo> LjL,  yeah, thanks it was for someone else, I already passed it along
[09:43] <crdlb> jexd, there's a special applet that makes that possible iirc
[09:43] <bipolar> slackwarelife: thank ATI for the abandonment
[09:43] <Dane_> PhilK I get a Grub: prompt    and if I type password and user, it does prompt me for a user, but then it complains that it must be authenticated
[09:43] <PhilK> deCon: bonus fact, pressing 'h' in top brings up the help
[09:43] <AmirB> I decided to uninstall beagle and in synaptics I selected for it to remove 'beagle' and 'libbeagle0', but when it was removing libbeagle it said that it was also removing nautilus and a couple other substantial packages!!! I have two questions: why did it remove those and how do I find out exactly what it removed so that I can get them back?
[09:43] <prcrash> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:43] <prcrash> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[09:43] <prcrash> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600
[09:43] <prcrash> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6458 (8.36.5)
[09:44] <slackwarelife> bipolar: agree with you, but now i have a new ubuntu user to help
[09:44] <crdlb> slackwarelife, the free driver supports 3d just fine with a 9250
[09:44] <Cnl_Delta> I dumped ATI as a first choice for video when I realised it doesn't want to be used outside an M$ OS
[09:44] <deCon> PhilK, installing htop...
[09:44] <PhilK> Dane_: Grub: prompt?  not a list of boot options?  stock edgy/feisty
[09:44] <bushblows> htop is such a god program
[09:44] <Dextorion> prcrash: what driver do you use?
[09:44] <PhilK> deCon: you'll like it better :)
[09:44] <LjL> viktor____: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22336
[09:44] <prcrash> just follow the guide I just pasted in the channel...
[09:44] <Dextorion> i cant get my ati card to work..
[09:44] <dac> Is there any way a SATA 300/160GB HD will work in my Packard Bell box?
[09:44] <slackwarelife> bipolar: you can find us on answer n 5281
[09:44] <bushblows> is shorewall stable on ubuntu?
[09:44] <prcrash> the one downloaded from the ati website
[09:45] <deCon> PhilK, thanks. Now how do I go about prioritizing the cut offs, I would've sworn I had enough RAM to handle any linux load, but apparently not
[09:45] <prcrash> but recompiled
[09:45] <LjL> Pelo, recovery mode or failing that, "init=/bin/sh" on the kernel command line
[09:45] <bushblows> the last time I used it on ubuntu it randomly seized up
[09:45] <bipolar> slackwarelife: what is that?
[09:45] <PhilK> deCon: 1GB really should be enough, what's using so much?
[09:45] <Dane_> PhilK I got three options in a menu first...  Ubuntu Kernel Generic, Recovery Mode, and Memtest 86x   there was a "press c for command line" option, which is what I had hit.  Wrong approach, right?
[09:45] <askar> Please dont hate me...Anyone knows of a theme and iconset to make ubuntu look like Win XP?
[09:45] <thnee> when i try to use the keyboard layout "Swedish" i get an error about XKB configuration with no actual error message at all.. how can i get swedish layout working?
[09:45] <slackwarelife> bipolar: the n of launchpad answers
[09:45] <PhilK> Dane_: yes :) pick recovery mode and hit enter
[09:45] <Dane_> aha  ok
[09:45] <Dane_> :-)
[09:45] <SurfnKid> hi
[09:45] <Pelo> LjL,  he did,  he's having extra problems,,  he's dling the live cd and well be reinstalling from scratch
[09:45] <deCon> PhilK, all i see in system monitor is about 500mb, so i dont get it
[09:46] <SurfnKid> trying to figure out a video resolution stretch issue
[09:46] <deCon> PhilK, let me check htop
[09:46] <stefg> !themes | askar
[09:46] <ubotu> askar: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:46] <Lbawinowns> Hello, I just realized I have soon maybe no more memory on the main partition, can i extend it by removing another partition?
[09:46] <SurfnKid> anyone have any idea where i can get information
[09:46] <LjL> Pelo: that's possibly unnecessary, though... what are the extra problems?
[09:46] <deCon> PhilK, i killed off keyboard break, and all the sudden, its just fine....wierd
[09:46] <Kozeris> hello i having troubles when i installed new video nvidia drivers on old and now error cant run x server, then i reconfigure xorg after restart error shows again i tried to reinstall driver nothing help , how to set default ? :(
[09:46] <Pelo> LjL,   meat me in #pelo
[09:46] <SlimeyPete> SurfnKid: what's the problem, exactly?
[09:46] <bipolar> slackwarelife: link please
[09:46] <PhilK> velko: np, it's one of my favorite programs :D
[09:46] <deCon> PhilK, i didn't think such a small application would have such great effect
[09:46] <YetiChick> dac: What model pACKARD BELL?
[09:46] <AmirB> how do I find out what the latest packages I uninstalled were? I accidentaly uninstalled some important ones but don't remember which exactly so I need to check
[09:46] <crdlb> Kozeris, it's not that simple, what video card?
[09:47] <Kozeris> 7600gt
[09:47] <PhilK> deCon: it's like top...but awesome :)
[09:47] <AaronMT> how can I disable this retro minimizing and maximizing effect in ubuntu with these black border lines
[09:47] <slackwarelife> bipolar: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5281
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[09:47] <crdlb> Kozeris, you installed nvidia-glx-new and what happened?
[09:47] <PhilK> deCon: Keyboard Break?
[09:47] <deCon> PhilK, I noticed.....wow, much prettier
[09:47] <dac> i don't know, yet.
[09:47] <deCon> PhilK, it automatically helps you take a break every so often so you don't die from sitting for too long lol
[09:47] <SurfnKid> SlimeyPete, I have all my icons stretched and everything on the desktop is stretched
[09:47] <Dane_> PhilK I'm there!  I tried user passwd and got "command not found"
[09:47] <PhilK> deCon: haha, ok, I get it
[09:47] <deCon> PhilK, load avg of .7 alright?
[09:48] <SurfnKid> SurfnKid, trying to only have the resolution stretched but not everything else, including images or photos
[09:48] <SurfnKid> SlimeyPete,
[09:48] <PhilK> Dane_: other way, passwd user
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> SurfnKid: your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the first place to star
[09:48] <Dane_> PhilK Actually it says "command User not found"
[09:48] <Dane_> trying...
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> *start
 i installed native linux drivers then i  tried  nvidia drivers and then gnome doesnt work anymroe, but i acctualy not finished intall i was downlaoded packages and edited txt files
[09:48] <MajorApus> dyrne: ?
[09:48] <SurfnKid> SlimeyPete, yeah i did ive reconfigured it, i might have to look at the forums for issues on this monitor
[09:48] <PhilK> deCon: sounds about right
[09:48] <crdlb> Kozeris, you need to run the NVIDIA installer in --uninstall mode
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> SurfnKid: yeah, good idea
[09:48] <crdlb> Kozeris, to clean up the damage
[09:48] <dac> model 7951
[09:48] <Glos_WiFi> hey guys does anyone know if 7.04 will support iBooks? its just im trying to acquire one and would appreciate knowing in advance whether its a good idea
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[09:49] <AmirB> how do I find out what the latest packages I uninstalled were?
[09:49] <crdlb> Kozeris, you used the nvidia.com installer right?
[09:49] <stefg> !PPC | Glos_WiFi
[09:49] <ubotu> Glos_WiFi: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:49] <z0man> will there be an Ubuntu release of Wine .35 soon?
[09:49] <Nadhr> is there any drivers for my ATI x550, pls?
[09:49] <vak> hi all, any1 here experienced in how to set up senmail for _receiving_ mail? (sending works good for me)
[09:49] <deCon> PhilK, excellent. Now, if you help me solve why the hell videos will not play within firefox? I run beryl, and i've heard there is a bug? can you change default media player to VLC in everything? (assuming VLC has plugins for fox)
[09:49] <SurfnKid> SlimeyPete, thanks
[09:49] <Kozeris> no i goes by instruction wich works on terminal, but i guess packages was downlaoded from nvidia web
[09:49] <Glos_WiFi> thx stefg
[09:49] <PhilK> deCon: oh hell no *runs away*
[09:50] <viktor____> LjL, i can't boot up the live cd also any boot command to get cooler working?
[09:50] <crdlb> Kozeris, did you run a command like: sh NVIDIA-9755.run ?
[09:50] <PhilK> deCon: I spent like 2 days trying to get YTMND working in Firefox :(
[09:50] <YetiChick> dac: Oh, wow...  That's an old one.  Ummm...  Well, while it's possible to use an SATA/IDE adapter to make that work, I've not found that they work very well in older machines.
[09:50] <prcrash> deCon, I think you have to download the actual VLC plugs for firefox
[09:50] <Dane_> success!  Thanks PhilK
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[09:50] <YetiChick> dac:  I, personally, wouldn't put much effort into it.
[09:50] <shirish> velko: sorry been also trouble-shooting some other stuff as well, yes this is my root file system
[09:50] <crdlb> Kozeris, so you ran something like: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?
[09:50] <PhilK> deCon: there's plugins for firefox for VLC or mplayer support, personally I like mplayer better in firefox (supports some of the quicktime trailers a bit)
[09:50] <deCon> PhilK, are you running beryl? I dont know if they are related, but there is a beryl/totem bug, and i have it...but i dont know if firefox uses totem
[09:51] <PhilK> Dane_: congrats, have fun
 absolutelly right
[09:51] <AmirB> how do I find out what the latest packages I uninstalled were?
[09:51] <bipolar> slackwarelife: maybe, just maybe, the envy script will help. http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:51] <anthony__> .
[09:51] <deCon> PhilK, is there an end-all be-all package to install and configure? I'd prefer if I could use one player to rule them all
[09:51] <PhilK> deCon: firefox uses totem by default, but there's a way to switch it to mplayer iirc
[09:52] <crdlb> Kozeris, do you know what the error message was?
[09:52] <PhilK> deCon: hopefully I'm not leading you astray, try "mozilla-mplayer" and "mplayerplug-in"
[09:52] <vak> hi all, any1 here experienced in how to set up sendmail for _receiving_ mail? (sending works good for me)
[09:52] <moonwatcher> anyone know some vmware on ubuntu?
[09:52] <SpaceBass> moonwatcher, what about it?
[09:52] <anthony__> moonwatcher: some!
[09:52] <velko> shirish, ok. so it's best to boot the life cd and check the file system from it. the default behaviour -A is not that efficient.
[09:52] <slackwarelife> bipolar: thanks, i will try :)
[09:52] <dadan_1> PhilK: on an AMD 64 there are no gaps!
[09:52] <tsikis> hello there
[09:52] <moonwatcher> hi
[09:53] <robokop> i am trying to install cisco vpnclient, but it says something is missing in the kernel headers
[09:53] <PhilK> dadan_1: Ubuntu? or windows?
[09:53] <dac> Yetichick, I have another box ,I'm running, is a multi-tech
[09:53] <deCon> PhilK, how do you exit htop?
[09:53] <PhilK> deCon: q
[09:53] <dadan_1> windows
[09:53] <slackwarelife> dada_1: uvb
[09:53] <viktor____> LjL,
[09:53] <moonwatcher> i am getting *horribly* slow bridging speed
 no error message was on install, just wenn i goed by instrucition downlaoded packages edited some files then  instruction asked to do alt ctrl and F2 then write there some commands like gnome stopping, after that my gnome never runn showing " x server cannot start becouss drivers bla bla bla
[09:53] <dadan_1> PhilK: windows
[09:53] <moonwatcher> around 300kbps
[09:53] <tsikis> i got two problems (1st is azureus keeps on crashing over and over (core dumped) and 2nd gaim keeps on crashing ) ubuntu 6.10 any idea?
[09:53] <PhilK> deCon: there's also a mozilla-plugin-vlc package, not sure what it does
[09:53] <dac> wand it only has a 6GB HD
[09:53] <slackwarelife> dada_1: ubuntu :)
[09:53] <moonwatcher> ever seen that?
[09:54] <robokop> tsikis: upgrade :P
[09:54] <deCon> PhilK, and how do I make sure totem stops being so bitchy?
[09:54] <tsikis> upgrade what azureus?
[09:54] <TheSilentW> hello everyone, how do i enable a script to run every X secunds in console, cause i am making a python script that makes a .html file, i put firefox auto-refreshing but want the script to run every X secunds too, how do i do that?
[09:54] <velko> shirish, i suspect that you get the error because it simply doesn't gets repaired on boot
[09:54] <PhilK> dadan_1: yeah...see I've never really had any problems with HD in windows even on relatively slow machines, but at least we know the file is ok now
[09:54] <moonwatcher> SpaceBass, anthony__ :  i am getting *horribly* slow bridging speed
[09:54] <crdlb> Kozeris, try this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:54] <deCon> PhilK, should I make VLC my default media player in system?
[09:54] <PhilK> deCon: what do you mean?
[09:54] <dane__> PhilK Coming to you live and direct from Ubuntu...thanks again!
[09:54] <YetiChick> dac:  ...and you want to try the drive in the other one, then?  My personal experience has been that if you do not have an SATA interface on your motherboard or an add on card, SATA drives do not tend to work reliably.
[09:54] <moonwatcher> SpaceBass, anthony__ :  and while we are on the subject, i can;t seem to bridge on the wireless
[09:54] <Kozeris> crdlb it will fix everything with drivers?
[09:55] <crdlb> Kozeris, maybe
[09:55] <PhilK> dane__: heh, excellent, run into any more brick walls, you know where to find us :)
[09:55] <YetiChick> dac:  If it's non-critical storage, you can try an adapter.
[09:55] <bipolar> slackwarelife: in fact, I think I'm going to try that script out on my radeon 9000 powered laptop, just to see if it works :)
[09:55] <mikedep333> hello, how can i create an archive (I don't even care if it is compressed or not) with all the subcontents of a folder, ignoring all unreadable files along the way?
[09:55] <robokop> i am trying to install cisco vpnclient, but it says something is missing in the kernel headers, linux/config.h is missing
[09:55] <dadan_1> PhilK: i'll try to play it on this machin on windows
[09:55] <deCon> PhilK, well totem is default media handler, and beryl and it disagree...due to a bug that i haven't figured out how to fix because i cannot find the file to edit, will changing my default software for opening all media affect firefox as well?
[09:55] <dane__> yeppers, count on it.  I'm a freshfaced newbie on Linux...  Experience in other oses, but i'm sure I'll have questions  :-)
[09:55] <dadan_1> and see what happens
[09:55] <mikedep333> I tried ark, I tried file roller, I tried using 7za
[09:55] <Nadhr> is there any drivers for my ATI x550, pls?
[09:56] <PhilK> deCon: I love VLC because of the "just works" factor, but it's not great with HD (ts and mkv files).  I'm assuming upstream (0.9.0) VLC has fixed a lot of that, but it hasn't made it to Ubuntu yet, and VLC is harder to compile than mplayer (for me anyway), so I personally use mplayer.
[09:56] <ti1> i've got two problems: first: i cant speak english very well, so this chat with 1300 users is a bit too fast for me. if you've an answer for me, would be nice to write an im ...
[09:56] <surviver> anyone know if there is a temperature sensor into ubuntu?
[09:56] <Kozeris> crdlb BTW  i tried to come back to gnome with  reconfiguring XORG and then restart gnome and it worked but after restart pc  X SERVER CANNOT RUN  showing again =(
[09:56] <surviver> *for case temps cpu ram ... vga
[09:56] <dac> nothing is critical, a 20GB HD would work. just got this 160GB on sale foe $39.99
[09:56] <mikedep333> Nadhr: I believe so, using the "restricted drivers" under administration tools
[09:57] <slackwarelife> bipolar: I have learned one news
[09:57] <crdlb> Kozeris, you must also run this (type it exactly): sudo rm /lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed
[09:57] <deCon> PhilK, currently i have no need for HD, so i'm not worried.
[09:57] <mikedep333> anyone help me create an archive?
[09:57] <ti1> second: my real problem: i've got a maxtor hde drive with 250 gb, but it doesnt run. a programm called "device manager" from ubuntu finds it, bios too, but "parted" cant find it
[09:57] <YetiChick> dac:  Well, older machines can have a hard time accessing all of a large drive, but if you don't need all of it many can be jumpered to look smaller to those old BIOSes.
[09:57] <velko> mikedep333, i just made a quick test as user "tar cvzf test.tar.gz /root" and it worked
[09:57] <bipolar> slackwarelife: whats that?
[09:57] <Lbawinowns> !imagemagick lbawinowns
[09:57] <PhilK> deCon: then go for VLC, other than HD I've never had a problem with it (well, aside from minor hiccups occasionally)
[09:57] <dadan_1> PhilK: i have only one question: how important is a good processor in matter of playing hi res movies? maybe the celeron is not quite good ?
[09:58] <TheSilentW> hello everyone, how do i enable a script to run every X secunds in console, cause i am making a python script that makes a .html file, i put firefox auto-refreshing but want the script to run every X secunds too, how do i do that?
[09:58] <velko> mikedep333, this is what do you mean by "unreadable files" i guess? or corrupt files?
[09:58] <mikedep333> weird file system objects
[09:58] <mikedep333> like entries for devices
[09:58] <dac> so, I could try it without a SATA PCI card?
[09:58] <rellik> TheSilentW, while (true); do echo "Hello World!"; sleep 10; done;
[09:58] <dadan_1> ?
[09:59] <joni3> kaneis apo rodo?
[09:59] <TheSilentW> rellik, thats console programming?
[09:59] <velko> mikedep333, just tried it with /dev (as user) and it worked
[09:59] <Kulebri> Hello there... I'm quite new to Ubuntu, so please try to bear with me if I'm saying nonsense... Whenever I try to run a certain program under Wine, I get a "BadWindow (Invalid Window Parameter)" error. Is there any simple way to fix this?
[09:59] <mikedep333> hmm
[09:59] <PhilK> dadan_1: main thing that sticks out in my head would be the lack of SSE2 instructions (though newer celeys might be ok on that front, I've been out of the hardware loop a bit).  with a video card that supports XvMC (nvidia or via onboard) a CPU is almost totally unimportant
[09:59] <surviver> anyone know or ubuntu has a temperature program? for cpu vga ram case hdd ...
[09:59] <rellik> TheSilentW, yup
[09:59] <mikedep333> tar --ignore-failed-read, thats what I should try
[09:59] <mikedep333> thx
[09:59] <bipolar> Kulebri: that can usulay be safely ignored.
[09:59] <TheSilentW> rellik, thx
[09:59] <stefg> Kulebri: better ask in #winehq
[09:59] <juanky> hay alguien por ah??
[09:59] <dac> yetichick,I could try it without a SATA PCI card ,do you think
 does it drivers work with WINE? becouse i getting error about alpha blending
[10:00] <Kulebri> oh ok
[10:00] <dadan_1> PhilK: thanx for the help, i'll try it on win
[10:00] <YetiChick> dac:  Well, something like this, for example: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2191178&CatId=77
[10:00] <prcrash> dime juanky
[10:00] <Kulebri> thanks biplolar and stefg
[10:00] <PhilK> dadan_1: the speed should be more important than the model once you get past a certain speed (and 2.4 really seems like enough to me)
[10:00] <crdlb> Kozeris, what?
[10:00] <Nadhr> is mint worth trying?
[10:00] <juanky> oye como puedo instalar xgl y compiz con ati?
[10:00] <velko> !es > juanky ( juanky see the pm from ubotu)
[10:00] <crdlb> Kozeris, you mean X is working?
[10:00] <mneptok> !es > juanky
 no program WINE for Windows games running
[10:00] <lord_spidey> hello
[10:01] <YetiChick> dac:  But don't expect great performance or reliability.
[10:01] <juanky> esque no consigo instalarlo
[10:01] <Flaze> man
[10:01] <mneptok> !es | juanky
[10:01] <crdlb> Kozeris, but have you fixed X yet?
[10:01] <Flaze> theres no ops
[10:01] <ubotu> juanky: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:01] <mneptok> Flaze: really?
[10:01] <compengi> i have an issue, i got 3 programs running (xchat, gaim, xmms) but my memory is being eaten dunno why. i got 36.8% of Ram memory used and 3.3% of 1G swap. and my pc is 4 hours up only, while on edgy i was running same programs but my system didn't use swap until my pc was up several days. does anyone knows what's going on?
[10:01] <liquiddoom> Flaze: The ops come on when needed
[10:01] <YetiChick> dac:  Plus...  Buying something more kind of makes the great deal on the drive rather pointless...
[10:01] <liquiddoom> Flaze: They're here though
 i cant run x becouse i need every time reconfigure xorg
[10:01] <toferrado> How do I setup my Wireless PCI cardk?
 i will doo it soon
[10:02] <mneptok> ;)
[10:02] <stefg> compengi: is that with or without buffers / cache ?
[10:02] <crdlb> Kozeris, ok doing those two commands should get you back the normal nvidia driver
[10:02] <jamisnemo> I just finnished installing ubuntu on my old laptop but it's not detecting any sound devices.
[10:02] <jamisnemo> the module I need is loaded
[10:02] <vak> is it so, that setting up the sendmail for receiving mail is a "no go" for usual ubuntu user?..
[10:02] <Flaze> i see
[10:02] <surviver> anyone know or ubuntu has a temperature program? for cpu vga ram case hdd ...
[10:02] <compengi> stefg, Mem:    515220k total,   497840k used,    17380k free,    31876k buffers
[10:02] <compengi> Swap:  1020116k total,    33964k used,   986152k free,   285276k cached
[10:02] <MajorApus> can someone help me with my fstab? everyhting mounts correctly, I just dont have permissions on everything
[10:02] <jamisnemo> but aplay -l doesn't show any cards
[10:03] <YetiChick> compengi:  Feisty seems to cache more aggressively.  I've notice more of my RAM being taken up by cache sooner in Feisty, too.
[10:03] <jamisnemo> where is the configuration file for alsa devices?
[10:03] <surviver> MajorApus, try this in console mount -o rw,remount /(path)
[10:03] <MajorApus> surviver: that wasn't what I asked
[10:03] <Svish> I have installed the ATI binary X.Org driver, but how do I use it? The restricted drivers dialog says my computer doesnt need anything..
[10:03] <viktor____> any solution for this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/24308 ?
[10:03] <stefg> compengi: this says that your system is using the valuable ram for a good pupose... caching and buffering
[10:04] <surviver> MajorApus, well just change the fstab file to rw  normally there would stand ro ...
[10:04] <MajorApus> surviver: they are already rw
[10:04] <surviver> MajorApus, and u cant write or do sonthin on it?
[10:04] <aoliax> does anyone know a method to encrypt files? kgpg doesnt seem to have it
[10:04] <`Tell> Hi...I need to dual-boot with winxp for work related stuff...can anybody advise me on how to do this?
[10:04] <MajorApus> surviver: depends on the drive, but basically
[10:05] <dac> you're right,thank you for all.
[10:05] <YetiChick> stefg:  I've noticed a greater use of swap here, too.  1.5G of RAM, and I'm swapping 33M by the end of a day of uptime.  Not causing problems here, but it is different than Edgy.
[10:05] <compengi> stefg, yes but it's taking alot of memory than i used usually on edgy. if my pc is for 4 hours up and using this much of memory what would happen if i leave my pc for like 20 days?
[10:05] <Svish> `Tell: Just install windows, and then install Ubuntu
[10:05] <dyrne> !grub > `Tell
[10:05] <surviver> MajorApus, mzz sry cant help u anymore just knwo the commands to set them rw or ro ..
[10:05] <apo> Tell, if you install Win XP in one Partition and then Ubuntu, let it write grub to the MBF, it should automagically detect Win...
[10:06] <YetiChick> compengi:  As long as it's just cache, it won't matter how long it's up.
[10:06] <ffm> What is the best comand line (non GUI) IRC client?
[10:06] <tjb13> hey how do you clear the apt cache
[10:06] <tjb13> ?
[10:06] <apo> ffm: Irssi
[10:06] <surviver> ffm, irssi
[10:06] <dyrne> ffm: irssi my favorite
[10:06] <apo> *g*
[10:06] <YetiChick> compengi:  But if the amount of swap used keeps growing, you'll probably notice a slowdown over time.  Give it a few more days.
[10:06] <velko> aoliax, http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto-4.html#ss4.1
[10:06] <`Tell> so I'd have to remove ubuntu in order to put windows back on, and then load ubuntu onto a partition?
[10:06] <surviver> ffm, u can type this in console irssi then /connect xxx(server) then /join #ubuntu
[10:06] <tjb13> ?
[10:06] <apo> Tell, no
 no solution but you can easily script around the problem
[10:07] <stefg> compengi: try it... i wouldn't worry too much, maybe the new kernel employs another strategy for buffers and cache. Unused Ram is good for nothing, so better use it for something
[10:07] <surviver> anyone know or ubuntu has a temperature program? for cpu vga ram case hdd ...
[10:07] <aoliax> thanks velko
[10:07] <apo> You can also edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:07] <ffm> dyrne: How do I set settings and such? Like default nick, server?
[10:07] <apo> !grub | `Tell
[10:07] <ryancr> anyone here running kiba-dock?
[10:07] <ubotu> `Tell: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:07] <jeroensum> surviver, try lm-sensors
[10:07] <MajorApus> How do I give myself permissions on a folder outside of my home directory
[10:08] <dyrne> ffm: well i normally just make a script but youll have a .irssi/config file
[10:08] <velko> aoliax, i supposed that kgpg is just a graphical frontend to gnupg. for that reason i'm wondering that it can't encrypt files
[10:08] <jeroensum> MajorApus, use sudo chmod
[10:08] <psycose> hi, since i upgrade to feisty my dell inspiron 510m really lag & is very slow (the cpu is at about 2%) have you heard about such a problem ?
[10:08] <ompaul> Flaze, you will see why the ops are marked as such all the time: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml  cheers
[10:08] <ffm> MajorApus: sudo chmod, or sudo nautilus and make the changes from there.
[10:08] <aoliax> velko, yup, its simple a graphical fontend
[10:08] <ffm> dyrne: Thanks!
[10:09] <MajorApus> ffm 770?
[10:09] <akahige> ubuntu noob, here... trying to install v7.04 and the graphical installer positions windows and buttons off the bottom of the screen, so I can't tell what to do to navigate. anyone got a workaround?
[10:09] <apo> MajorApus: If you're in the group, yes
[10:09] <jeroensum> MajorApus, depends on the groups you're in
[10:09] <apo> If not, 777
[10:09] <MajorApus> apo im the only user?
[10:09] <ffm> MajorApus: try 0777
[10:09] <jeroensum> apo , I would not reccomend 777 for anything!
[10:09] <apo> jeroensum: True...
[10:10] <velko> akahige, you can press Alt, click anywhere inside a window and move the window
[10:10] <ffm> MajorApus: Actualy , 770 is fine
[10:10] <psycose>  hi, since i upgrade to feisty my dell inspiron 510m really lag & is very slow (the cpu is at about 2%) have you heard about such a problem ?
[10:10] <toferrado> How do I setup my Wireless PCI card?
[10:10] <aoliax> velko: there is no encryption that would come with archive managers or anything that you know of?
[10:10] <ffm> !gutsy
[10:10] <sldkfj> My system refuses to allow me to login to a tty terminal.  My user name is all lowercase, and my password has some uppercase letters in it.  My tty terminal apparently doesn't allow uppercase letters as noticed when I tested if it did with typing letters in the user portion which is visible.  Any help to correct this would be appreciated.
[10:10] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <YetiChick> MajorApus:  Of course, there is also chown.  Depends on what you're trying to accpomplish.
[10:11] <MajorApus> im trying to access drives i mounted and I cant
[10:11] <velko> aoliax, nothing i know about
[10:11] <YetiChick> MajorApus:  accomplish.
[10:11] <jandro> hello! is somebody experiencing sound a lot of problems with audio in skype? my comunication is stablish and at some moments we can hear the each other, but the most of the time a really annoying noise is cutting constantly the conversation? it happened to me on edgy, and now also in feisty, any idea?
[10:11] <Svish> how can I choose to use the ati graphicscard driver??
[10:11] <jeroensum> MajorApus, use the   -o uid  switch for mount (see man page)
[10:11] <akahige> velko: thanks!
[10:11] <webmaren> hi guys
[10:11] <aoliax> anyone know any methods to encrypt files?
[10:12] <webmaren> i need help getting internet on a 7.04 live cd
[10:12] <apecat> webmaren: start by describing how you connect
[10:12] <Svish> webmaren: say what? you want internet on a live cd?
[10:12] <webmaren> yes
[10:13] <sesamebike> Hi! My sister used to do some web editing in mozilla-composer but it's gone after upgrading to Feisty. Does anyone have a tip on how to restore it into Feisty or recommend a similar wysiwyg editor?
[10:13] <Svish> webmaren: ah.. like that :P
[10:13] <PenguinOfDoom> How do I enable IRQ unmasking on an IDE drive handled by libata? It seems that those guys, in their endless wisdom, removed support for that ioctl.
[10:13] <webmaren> i need to show my friends family how ubuntu works
[10:13] <sldkfj> webmaren  ........ visit   http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[10:13] <apecat> sesamebike: nvu is better i suppose
[10:13] <webmaren> i'm trying to convince them to use ubuntu
[10:13] <ompaul> sesamebike, use bluefish is one thing or nvu
[10:13] <jandro> hello! is somebody experiencing sound a lot of problems with audio in skype? my comunication is stablish and at some moments we can hear the each other, but the most of the time a really annoying noise is cutting constantly the conversation? it happened to me on edgy, and now also in feisty, any idea?
[10:13] <sesamebike> nvu is gone in feisty tooo..
[10:13] <Nadhr> is mint worth trying?
[10:13] <sinn1> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu installation gets stuck on step 5 - where it checks my disks before i pick where i want to install to??
[10:14] <apecat> sesamebike: tried installing it?
[10:14] <webmaren> and i can't get the computer to recognize the connection
[10:14] <mneptok> sesamebike: nVu is dead as a projct. try Bluefish or Amaya
[10:14] <apecat> oh, dead
[10:14] <apecat> weird
[10:14] <sldkfj> webmaren  ........ D/L a LIVE CD for your particular system at   http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[10:14] <stefg> sinn1: are you sure that your disk  and partiton table are alright?
[10:14] <sesamebike> ok. thanks. i'll tell her to try bluefish then.
[10:14] <mneptok> sesamebike: Amaya is probably what you're looking for
[10:15] <mneptok> sesamebike: Bluefish is not WYSIWYG
[10:15] <mneptok> Amaya is.
[10:15] <sinn1> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu installation gets stuck on step 5 - where it checks my disks before i pick where i want to install to??
[10:15] <sesamebike> thanks. guess amaya is the way to go for her.
[10:15] <webmaren> sldkfj: i already have a live cd, its booted on the particular computer, but i can't use the internet
[10:15] <sesamebike> cheers
[10:15] <jeroensum> sinn1, what does your /var/log/messages give you?
[10:16] <mneptok> sesamebike: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
[10:16] <YetiChick> Nadhr:  Anything is worth trying - once.  :)
[10:16] <sinn1> jeroensum, im 100% new to linux, i have no idea... how  can i check?
[10:16] <kaje> Does anyone know of any howto's for setting up a kiosk station where you basically have 1 system, but 4 monitors, keyboards, and mice? Basically, using multiple X sessions?
[10:16] <BelaBartok> is there a possibility to run xubuntu on an old 486?
[10:16] <mneptok> sesamebike: you'll note she can use it for free on Ubuntu, Windows, or OSX ;)
[10:17] <jeroensum> sinn1, start a terminal from the menu , then type: cat /var/log/messages
[10:17] <lns> wassaaaaap ubuntu!!!! woooooooooooOOOOOOOOOO!
[10:17] <lns> hehe
[10:17] <sldkfj> webmaren, has the computer had internet access before you loading the Live CD?
[10:17] <webmaren> yes
[10:17] <stefg> kaje: have you looked at edubuntu? it might be 50% of waht you want already
[10:17] <mneptok> BelaBartok: any GUI on that will be rough. if you *must* have one, install Ubuntu server and something like Fluxbox/ICEwm
[10:17] <jeroensum> sinn1, DONT post everything, you will flood the channel and get kickedQ
[10:17] <aska1> I want to run program.sh from the applications menu..the program is in /home/askar/program/program.sh
[10:17] <aska1> how?
[10:17] <anchor> is it better to use the restricted drivers that ship with feisty, or to download them from the Nvidia website?
[10:18] <MajorApus> okay so my fstab is almost done, I can read all mounts but I cant write to ntfs
[10:18] <deCon> PhilK, what uses swap and can it be cleared?
[10:18] <BelaBartok> mneptok: well its for my grandma, she needs to check mail n stuff
[10:18] <sinn1> jeroensum, ok, im going to have to boot it up again im on windows at the moment... can i get back onto here when im on the Live CD mode ?
[10:18] <PhilK> deCon: not really my area of expertise but...
[10:18] <webmaren> woah nvm guys it might be working now
[10:18] <sldkfj> webmaren, what kind of a connection to the internet is there at that computer?
[10:18] <jeroensum> MajorApus, if you umount the drives and mount by hand with the -o uid option can you access the drive then as RW?
[10:18] <mneptok> BelaBartok: Fluxbox.
[10:18] <malsyned> Anybody know why all of the download links to Feisty for PowerPC are coming back 404s?  Does it actually exist?
[10:19] <MajorApus> jeroensum: how is that any different than using rw and uid in the fstab
[10:19] <IYY> guys... small problem: I installed Feisty today and accidentally selected "Canada" as my keyboard layout (it should be US). Now many keys, like '/' don't work. I managed to change it in X by editing xorg.conf, but when I'm in the console it's still set on the wrong mode. How do I fix this?
[10:19] <mneptok> malsyned: PPC is no longer an officially supported arch.
[10:19] <jeroensum> sinn1, yes you can, if you have a working network connection under the live CD you can start a terminal and apt-get an IRC client like xchat
[10:19] <BelaBartok> mneptok: and is there any distro set in fluxbox by default?
[10:19] <PhilK> deCon: swap is just extra memory, if you run out of regular memory it'll use it, otherwise it won't.  I don't think I've ever noticed the swap grow past 100mb as long as I've got the memory
[10:19] <stefg> MajorApus: you need a spaecail driver for that. I did your fstab earlier, remember?
[10:19] <psusi> aramaki: no, you want hd0 to be the usb drive
[10:19] <mneptok> malsyned: look for builds by the community, a la Xubuntu
[10:19] <malsyned> mneptok: seriously?!  Is there any web page about why?
[10:19] <stefg> !ntfs-3g  | MajorApus
[10:19] <ubotu> MajorApus: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:19] <deCon> PhilK, cuz my memory is fine now, but my swap is up at 200mb
[10:19] <mneptok> BelaBartok: Fluxbuntu ;)
[10:19] <malsyned> is that new to Feisty?
[10:19] <MajorApus> stefg: yes, and almost none of it worked stefg
[10:19] <sinn1> jeroensum, ok thank you, i will be back soon.
[10:19] <sldkfj> My system refuses to allow me to login to a tty terminal.  My user name is all lowercase, and my password has some uppercase letters in it.  My tty terminal apparently doesn't allow uppercase letters as noticed when I tested if it did with typing letters in the user portion which is visible.  Any help to correct this would be appreciated.
[10:19] <deCon> PhilK, does it clear the swap when you reboot?
[10:19] <mneptok> malsyned: it is
[10:20] <MajorApus> I do have the ntfs config tool
[10:20] <PhilK> decon: probably just sitting out there from when you were out of ram, and yes it does
[10:20] <jeroensum> MajorApus, if you mount by hand you will see errors if thingsgo wrong. When you put in in fstab sometimes the errors get lost in dmesg
[10:20] <stefg> MajorApus: sad to hear... what was wrong?
[10:20] <mquy> hello
[10:20] <MajorApus> jeroensum: ic
[10:20] <mneptok> malsyned: it just isn't worth the development effort and expense now that no major player is shipping a PPC desktop.
[10:20] <seele_> please help with my sound card
[10:20] <malsyned> That's unbelievable.  Ubuntu actually abandoned the platform before Apple stopped supporting it.  I'm disappointed.
[10:20] <MajorApus> stefg: most of them didn't mount
[10:20] <shirish> guys I'm unable to find the gaim-irchelper what could be wrong?
[10:21] <BelaBartok> mneptok: heeey, thought you were makin fun ... there really is a distro like that ... thanks pal :DDD
[10:21] <YetiChick> malsyned:  With limited resources, sometimes you have to pick and choose.  I have an old G3 PowerMac sitting here that I wanted to try it on, but I understand that I'm fairly rare.
[10:21] <PhilK> malsyned: I'd have to say I'd much rather they push forward than support a dying platform, leave that to NetBSD or something like it
[10:21] <deCon> PhilK, ok thanks! Now I'm trying to follow some tips and tweaks pages, you haven't any Feisty links you would point someone like me towards? I already have ubuntuguide.org open
[10:21] <mneptok> BelaBartok: /join #fluxbuntu
[10:22] <seele_> I have a toshiba laptop ... I look all the pages about this problem but I can't find the solution
[10:22] <velko> malsyned, you may look at debian. it supports 11 processor architectures
[10:22] <manitoba99> I'm following these guides: http://howtoforge.com/sharp_fonts_gnome_p2 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976 , but I cannot seem to get Xorg to change the DPI to 96...I'm changing the DisplaySize in xorg.conf, but xdpyinfo still shows it at 101x108 dots per inch....
[10:22] <seele_> this is my lspci exit
[10:22] <seele_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:22] <seele_> for the sound card
[10:22] <mneptok> malsyned: join the community port.
[10:22] <malsyned> velko: yeah, that's exactly what I'm going to have to do.
[10:22] <d0lph1nK1ng> anyone know what driver to install for an ATI TV Wonder Elite tv tuner card?
[10:22] <PhilK> deCon: Ubuntuguide's a great place to start, as for my guides bookmarked, they tend to be pretty specific to problems I've had
[10:22] <sldkfj> I guess could change my password to all lowercase letters just see if a tty terminal actually works
[10:22] <malsyned> mneptok: Anyplace I can go to learn about how to?
[10:23] <jeroensum> KenSentMe, LOL das uit Larry 1 of niet?  :D
[10:23] <deCon> PhilK, thanks! ill just google for tips
[10:23] <mneptok> malsyned: stand by. i'll find you resources.
[10:23] <KenSentMe> jeroensum, yep :)
[10:24] <PhilK> deCon: when I run into a problem I usually start at google, then the forums, then here.  works about 95% of the time
[10:24] <anto> Can somone help me, i compiled a program and when i try to run it on my server it says "Bash: ./otserv: cannot execute binary files."
[10:24] <MajorApus> my ext3 drive isn't moutning  I get this error "EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value"
[10:24] <malsyned> mneptok: thanks.  also, there does seem to be a CD image for it on cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports.  What's the deal with that?
[10:25] <lieter> ok dumb question: why cant i add openttd to my games menu?
[10:25] <MajorApus> for this line "/dev/sdb3 /mount/data2 ext3    auto,nouser,  exec,rw,uid=1000 0 0"
[10:25] <elliottcable> <<| The Last Night :| by |: Skillet |>>
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[10:25] <Selenolycus> What would happen after shuttin down with 'shutdown -h -t' ? I did that with some number flags, 3 and 5, and now my computer is acting funny.
[10:25] <velko> anto, is it possible that your executable is on a file system which is mounted as "noexec" ?
[10:26] <deCon> PhilK, now its on to optimization...i guess the generic kernel trumps the K7 kernal that is supposed to help out for dual cores
[10:26] <stefg> MajorApus: uid is just a workaround for filesystems which don't implement user permissions, like vfat. so it's not a valid option with ext3
[10:26] <Bales1> Ever since upgrading to Feisty, my Firefox has been freezing very frequently. Any ideas?
[10:27] <manitoba99> Bales1: I've experienced the same thing.....very odd......
[10:27] <PhilK> deCon: I haven't found any optimizations that drastically sped things up yet, Ubuntu's pretty snappy OOB
[10:27] <Selenolycus> ANYONE?
[10:27] <Bales1> manitoba99: Yeah, and I can't pinpoint it on one site or anything, it just happens all the time
[10:27] <velko> Selenolycus, don't know about the -t part but i shutdown this way my computer almost every time and nothing bad happens
[10:27] <jeroensum> MajorApus, the problem is the nouser switch, this lets only root mount the device!
[10:28] <Selenolycus> with "-h"
[10:28] <Selenolycus> ?
[10:28] <velko> Selenolycus, yes
[10:28] <velko> Selenolycus, very convinient if you want the computer to shut down after a movie
[10:28] <deCon> PhilK, so i've noticed, i'm just hoping to make sure everything is at its peak :O), esp. since i only have a 80GB Hdd
[10:28] <PhilK> Selenolycus: it doesn't look like -t is even an option...
[10:28] <mublak> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:28] <mynnx> Hey - can anyone give me a hand getting a dual-monitor setup working on my Intel 915GM laptop?  I get the startup sound but a blank screen.
[10:29] <Nrbelex> How do you trick a website into thinking you're running Windows or IE?
[10:29] <velko> PhilK, it is. it means "Tell init(8) to wait sec seconds between sending processes the warning and the kill signal, before changing to another runlevel"
[10:29] <jeroensum> Nrbelex, usr the 'user agent switcher' plugin for firefox
[10:29] <PhilK> deCon: yeah, it can be a little space hungry, especially if you start compiling your own builds (I keep up with the latest svn builds of MythTV and mplayer)
[10:29] <Moongoo> Hello, I just got a new widescreen monitor and I want to use a different resolution. in the screen resolution, it doesn't give me all the available options for widescreen. How do I fix this?
[10:29] <MajorApus> well I got everything working now except my ext3 drive
[10:29] <MajorApus> its not auto moutning
[10:29] <Nrbelex> jeroensum, thanks - couldn't remember the name
[10:30] <MajorApus> and I know why :( silly me
[10:30] <mynnx> Moongoo, add the resolution to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:30] <PhilK> Moongoo: add the resolutions to xorg.conf and you should be all set
[10:30] <ompaul> !es | mublak
[10:30] <ubotu> mublak: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:30] <tjb13> how do i completely remove a package that I've installed so that I can change apt sources and get a lower version
[10:30] <PhilK> velko: thanks, didn't see that in the --help
[10:30] <deCon> PhilK, see and after i'm done with school in a week. i need to start that kind of stuff. I want to set up my box as MythTV, as well as a media server.
[10:30] <Moongoo> tyvm
[10:30] <jeroensum> Nrbelex, NP :)
[10:31] <velko> PhilK, i also looked it up in the man page. i wasn't aware of its existence too
[10:31] <lolomama> I lack space on my /usr disk to install version 7.04. How can I solve this issue ?
[10:31] <Outrider> evening all
[10:31] <PhilK> deCon: good luck!  MythTV is great for videos and music.  TV...maybe? (I've had a really hard time with it, but I know it's supposed to work just fine, part of it's the HD problems)
[10:31] <cmatheson> lolomama: you could use parted to resize your partitions, although it can be a bit tricky to shuffle things around right
[10:31] <tjb13> anyone have any idea
[10:32] <jcole_eat> windows xp theme -> http://bp0.blogger.com/_fTC3EYzUReY/Rd-5RN9fuAI/AAAAAAAAAAk/mGc7iBmxkN8/s1600-h/screenshot.JPG
[10:32] <dinochopins> hi ...
[10:32] <jeroensum> lolomama, add an extra disk and mount it :)
[10:32] <lolomama> what do U mean by tricky ?
[10:32] <dinochopins> is there anyone has any experience with fetchmail ?
[10:32] <deCon> PhilK, i hadn't found the link to the actual software and description for main site, could you point me there please?
[10:32] <dinochopins> I try to get my "catch-all" email account
[10:32] <jamisnemo> could someone tell me where the alsa configuration files are?
[10:32] <surviver> dinochopins, bit but not much tip: hotmail doesnt work with it
[10:32] <seele__> please help I have a nuw laptop with festy ... but my sound not works ...
[10:32] <PhilK> deCon: http://www.mythtv.org
[10:33] <PhilK> deCon: more useful, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/
[10:33] <surviver> deCon, hy :)
[10:33] <seele__> this is my lspci exit for my sound card
[10:33] <dinochopins> and delivered that into my users's mailboxes
[10:33] <seele__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:33] <deCon> surviver, hello!
[10:33] <Bales1> Is there a way to find out what kind of server my school email uses and check it using Evolution?
[10:33] <netsrot> how do I config the forced disk check?
[10:33] <tjb13> can anyone tell me how to completely remove everything a package installed and the cached deb package
[10:33] <dinochopins> surviver: no... i'm not using hotmail but my own domain's catch all account set up by my ISP
[10:33] <mynnx_> Hey - can anyone give me a hand getting a dual-monitor setup working on my Intel 915GM laptop?  I get the startup sound but a blank screen.
[10:33] <tjb13> should be an easy one
[10:33] <PhilK> deCon: the mailing list has a ton of information on it (almost too much to be useful) and there's tons of guides out there for it.  the basic setup should be pretty easy for you
[10:34] <imbecile> ok guys I want to add more hd space to ubuntu in my dual boot system.. I have gparted open.. can someone help me?
[10:34] <PhilK> deCon: the ubuntu packages will probably be fine as long as you don't want to do anything too fancy
[10:34] <velko> dinochopins, you need an example on what to put in .fetchmailrc or you have some specific problem?
[10:34] <surviver> dinochopins, oke then it will be sonthin like this : fetchmail xxx
[10:34] <luisgmarine> what are the alternates to gaim?
[10:34] <deCon> PhilK, so i've heard.... can I run myth on an old P2 350mhz...or ubuntu for that matter? Which build? Because thats my next project...a frankenstein box of old purportions
[10:34] <dinochopins> velko : some specific problem
[10:35] <PhilK> deCon: Xubuntu's kind of designed for that, minimalist
[10:35] <dinochopins> velko : so.. i have a "catch-all" account on my domain (let's say abc.com)... and have just one email account at my ISP
[10:35] <surviver> dinochopins, fetchmail xxx@xxx.xx then it works normally or u can make a script for it ... to automaticly do that
[10:35] <YetiChick> mynnx_: I assume that nothing changed with the last try?
[10:35] <PhilK> deCon: you can probably get a myth-frontend playing on there, but I definately wouldn't expect much more than music and maybe web-quality video
[10:35] <dinochopins> velko: that is the catch-all account (catchall@abc.com)
[10:36] <topgun553> Hey can someone help me!!!! : I have a presentation to give and I want to use the open office version of powerpoint (since I only run linux on my computer) and I was wondering what I am going to need to do to have it be able to be on the projection screen... This is for my TechComm class of U of M
[10:36] <Tomatoma> Is anyone know which plugin manages window pilling-up in compiz?
[10:36] <nenxj> dffsdg
[10:36] <nenxj> anyone get wifi to work on their laptops
[10:36] <Fylk> I have.
[10:36] <nenxj> i set it up correctly i see signals, BUT IT DOESNT actualyl connect
[10:36] <Fylk> Any kind of encription key?
[10:36] <dyrne> topgun553: ive used twinview for that. fairly straight forward once you have an example of what to put in xorg
[10:36] <nenxj> nah none of that
[10:36] <dinochopins> velko: then I can catch all the email addressses directed to abc.domain (dino@abc.com, maria@abc.com, etc)
[10:36] <nenxj> i even connected to it full signal, but no actual data transmissions
[10:37] <PhilK> topgun553: any chance you can get access to the projector ahead of time?  you'll probably want to set it up as a monitor in xorg.conf
[10:37] <MajorApus> alright, I got eveyrthing working, if anyone would like to see my fstab (it contains vfat ext3 and ntfs-3g) so it might be a good example
[10:37] <Fylk> Nenxj: Card, etc
[10:37] <topgun553> PhilK, I have an hour and I don't shit about how to edit xorg.conf
[10:37] <nenxj> broadcom 1390
[10:37] <topgun553> dyrne,  what does twinview do?
[10:37] <PhilK> MajorApus: I'd be curious if you pastebin it
[10:37] <dinochopins> velko: then I need to pop all those emails and distributed it to my local Ubuntu's accounts based on that email account (dino@abc.com will be delivered to dino.. and so on)
[10:37] <nenxj> heres the tutorial i used
[10:37] <nenxj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[10:37] <Fylk> I think the broadcom cards are having issues. Some one confirm?
[10:37] <jeroensum> Tomatoma, what do you mean by 'piling up'?
[10:38] <PhilK> topgun553: yeah, talk to dyrne, I'm just going to be guessing, he sounds like he's got some experience at least
[10:38] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  Yeah, nothing did
[10:38] <velko> dinochopins, this is done by procmail and not by fetchmail :-)
[10:38] <topgun553> dyrne, could you walk me through what I would need to do???
[10:38] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  I'm sorry about leaving, btw; I forgot that I had a class at 3:10
[10:38] <MajorApus> fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17463/
[10:38] <deCon> PhilK, well ill run myth on my awesome box, but i want to fraken something just for the parents to use...so xubuntu?
[10:38] <imbecile> ok guys I want to add more hd space to ubuntu in my dual boot system.. I have gparted open.. can someone help me?
[10:38] <seele__> please help with HDA intel sound card
[10:39] <PhilK> deCon: that's probably going to be your best bet.  Gnome can be a little RAM hungry for older systems
[10:39] <rambo3> deCon, e17
[10:39] <kane77> how can I set default printout mode for a printer? in dapper there was only setting inside printer preferences and all apps used this setting, now it's in all printing dialogs and now it asks me every time.
[10:39] <topgun553> dyrne, are you there man?
[10:40] <Tomatoma> jeroensum, (sorry I'm french), in the cube, windows are put in relief
[10:40] <MajorApus> how do I play mpegs?
[10:40] <jcole> kane77: http://127.0.0.1:631/printers
[10:40] <rambo3> deCon, as long as it has starter bar with Firefox/swiftfox/opera and soliter
[10:40] <deCon> PhilK, what is the easiest way in terminal to end a running anything....i want to configure this locale remover, but it has a loooong string of crap, but i want to skip that and get back to term. prompt
[10:40] <PhilK> rambo3: how easy is e17 to set up in Ubuntu?  I've thought about messing around with it
[10:40] <jcole> kane77: i had to use the cups interface to make permanent settings
[10:40] <rambo3> PhilK, add repos and : apt-get install e17
[10:40] <dyrne> topgun553: nah sorry i dont really remember. i usually just google for an example and start working from it.  make sure you know ahead of time what resolution the projector will be
[10:40] <YetiChick> mynnx_: No problem.  :)
[10:41] <deCon> rambo3, right lol. i was thinking basic
[10:41] <PhilK> deCon: uh, CTRL+C?  I think that's what you're looking for
[10:41] <kane77> jcole, thx, I' ll try that
[10:41] <PhilK> rambo3: sounds easy enough, I might have to play around with it
[10:41] <deCon> PhilK, thanks
[10:41] <jeroensum> Tomatoma, don't worry, I'm dutch so  ... :P  The windows are put in relief when you move the cube, that's what you mean?
[10:41] <dinochopins> velko : Oh... ok, will take a look at them
[10:41] <MajorApus> how do I get mpeg support in kubuntu
[10:41] <dinochopins> velko: Thank you very much
[10:41] <YetiChick> mynnx_: The problem with remote troubleshooting of this kind of thing is the "try something and check the logs" approach is so slow with display issues.
[10:41] <jcole> kane77: username is "root"
[10:41] <rambo3> PhilK, there is old howto on ubuntu forums so you need to change edgy to feisty in how to
[10:41] <sldkfj> Well I changed the password to all lowercase letters, and I got through. so  I guess I have to create another user with privileges with an acceptable password.  Unless someone else out there uses uppercase letters in their password.  I guess I'm kind of curious.  :\
[10:41] <velko> dinochopins, they are a lot of howtos and examples on the net. np
[10:41] <Svish> Why cant I choose any drivers in the Restricted Drivers Manager???
[10:42] <SurfnKid> how do i know which module is loaded for my video card?
[10:42] <PhilK> deCon: can you see my PM?
[10:42] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  Yeah, I agree...my "linux guy" back here is stumped
[10:42] <SurfnKid> like i810 or r300 for ati
[10:42] <jamisnemo> why does ubuntu have such an issue with sound support..
[10:42] <jcole> kane77: can't remember if you also have to set root passwd... if so, do a "sudo passwd" to set it
[10:42] <SurfnKid> do i run lsmod?
[10:42] <YetiChick> mynnx_: What you know is that you have a working config.  So what I would do is start with that working config and slowly add things to it 'til I saw where it broke.
[10:42] <dinochopins> velko: procmail is mailing list manager ?
[10:42] <dinochopins> velko: that's not what i mean :P
[10:42] <Tomatoma> yes, and in Feisty, they don't, thanks to desktop-effects
[10:42] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  I'll definitely try that
[10:42] <rambo3> PhilK, deCon http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319336
[10:43] <Tomatoma> jeroensum, yes, and in Feisty, they don't, thanks to desktop-effects
[10:43] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  I'll let you know when I know something...thanks for your help
[10:43] <YetiChick> mynnx_: For example, copy/past the device and monitor sections, changing *only* what you need to to refer to the other display.
[10:43] <velko> dinochopins, huh? ok, maybe i missed the joke though...
[10:43] <YetiChick> mynnx_: And make as few changes as possible in between tries.
[10:43] <sinn637> jeroensum, what was that line yuou told me to type into my terminal for the var log ?
[10:43] <PhilK> rambo3: this is why I'm interested in e17, the fans are always so evangelical about it, there must be something ;)
[10:43] <sldkfj> I find it sort of odd that the password system into a tty program doesn't allow uppercase letters when the OS login does.
[10:43] <dinochopins> velko, sorry... I just read the manual and seems it can be the solution
[10:44] <jeroensum> Tomatoma, in beryl-manager there is/was a 'Visual effects' tab where you can go to 3D-effects and set 'window depth'
[10:44] <YetiChick> mynnx_: And, of course, make sure it is securely backed up before you start making changes.  :)
[10:44] <dinochopins> velko, thank you.. will learn it thoroughly first
[10:44] <velko> dinochopins, it can be ;-)
[10:44] <pandina> HELLO! how can i open a new X server on display :1? so i will have display :0 for karl and display :1 for tom
[10:44] <dinochopins> velko, really appreciate it
[10:44] <sldkfj> also, I reckon I'm just chatting with myself.....
[10:44] <jeroensum> sinn637, cat /var/log/messages
[10:45] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  Heh yeah, that's important
[10:45] <Tomatoma> jeroensum, Is this also in the desktop-effects pack ?
[10:45] <jeroensum> sinn637, then check for obvious errors, plz don't paste the whole thing
[10:45] <mynnx_> YetiChick:  What sucks is that sometimes I lose my mouse when I restore my xorg to the original, until I reboot
[10:45] <foug> !mouse
[10:45] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[10:45] <rambo3> PhilK, i dont know why , but e17 is new and not build upon old code from old ages . animated wallpapers icons , easy config panels. quick http://www4.get-e.org/Themes/E17/
[10:46] <skulrid> is there a way to password protect my simple folders?
[10:46] <jeroensum> Tomatoma, I'm not sure, haven looked at it yet
[10:46] <apol> is it possible to use xrandr 1.2 with feisty?
[10:47] <YetiChick> mynnx_: That's strange.  Not something I've seen, although I always have gpm running.  Might make a difference.
[10:47] <Tomatoma> jeroensum, ok thanks, I'm looking gconf-editor
[10:47] <cdavisnet> password protect folders in appache ? skulrid
[10:47] <PhilK> rambo3: thanks man, I'll check it out when I get home
[10:47] <kane77> jcole, anyway I liked the old printing "interface" better.. having all set in one point has its advantages
[10:47] <rambo3> !info xrandr feisty-backports
[10:47] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:47] <topgun553> dyrne, from what I have been reading there have been problems with twinview with feisty
[10:48] <kane77> can I manualy clean the swap?
[10:48] <topgun553> Does anyone know an easy way I could connect to a projecter with feisty on my laptop???
[10:48] <moonwatcher> can anyone explain to me how to set up an ATI 9600 to output video overlay to the s-video port
[10:48] <rambo3> kane77, what ?
[10:48] <moonwatcher> i am not sure if its possible even
 whats appache?
[10:48] <deCon> rambo3, what exactly is it, superlight version of ubuntu?
[10:48] <moonwatcher> with the open source driver
[10:48] <velko> kane77, i do swapoff and swapon
[10:48] <cdavisnet> skulrid a webserver
[10:48] <YetiChick> topgun553: Depends on the projector's interface.
[10:48] <topgun553> I'm guessing it will be a vga connection
[10:49] <topgun553> YetiChick, I am guessing it will be a vga connection
[10:49] <skulrid> cdavisnet well dunno ^^" I just want to protect some folders on my desktop with a password.
[10:49] <kane77> rambo3, it became a little cluttered because I didnt turn off computer for.. e.. a long time :)
[10:49] <YetiChick> topgun553: Then you should be able to simply use the VGA output of your laptop.
[10:49] <cdavisnet> skulrid.... no idea, sorry
[10:49] <rambo3> deCon, its window manger #elbuntu is built around it with ubuntu as base
[10:49] <jeroensum> Tomatoma,  try to install GLDesktop and Compiz-Extra plugins and then go to Gconf-editor then apps and then compiz
[10:49] <YetiChick> topgun553: however, X being what it is, it would be nice if you could test it before you had to do a presentation.
[10:50] <topgun553> yeah
[10:50] <topgun553> well shit
[10:50] <topgun553> YetiChick, how well does openoffice transfer to powerpoint?
[10:50] <PriceChild> !ohmy | topgun553
[10:50] <ubotu> topgun553: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:50] <olimpico> I'm getting log_daemon_msg: not found everywhere
[10:50] <deCon> rambo3, so itll run feisty, but with a lighter-on-ram windows manager?
[10:50] <olimpico> On the console, if I remove a package, on the init , everywhere
[10:51] <olimpico> PLEASE HELP, and some things don't work
[10:51] <YetiChick> topgun553: In my experience, quite well, although the interface is a bit different.
[10:51] <topgun553> hmm
[10:51] <rambo3> deCon, yeah as long as you turn on all widgets that are built in
[10:51] <topgun553> YetiChick, .... is it as good as powerpoint?
[10:51] <foug> i can't save my xorg.conf, i don't have permission. Never had this happen before, I've edited it many times, why is it giving me trouble now?
[10:51] <moonwatcher> foug: sudo....
[10:51] <PhilK> deCon: there's also fluxbox which is super light-weight, I'm pretty sure there's packages for it as well
[10:52] <ompaul> olimpico, so did you remember the locak configuration files after you did "sudo apt-get remove --purge application-name"?
[10:52] <E42> help !! when i upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 my wifi card dont works !! it is a RTL8180 !! Someone help . Im on 6.10 no and if i LSMOD so there is r818x                  93708  0
[10:52] <E42>  and ieee80211_rtl          82696  1 r818x
[10:52] <E42>  . But when i lsmod in 7.04 there is nothing of these two procces. HELP ME !! HOW TO FIX IT !?
[10:52] <deCon> thanks!
[10:52] <imbecile> hey if i move some of my ntfs partition to my ext3 partition using gparted will i still be able to boot up?
[10:52] <YetiChick> topgun553: Well, I can't give you an unbiased answer.  I don't like Powerpoint, but I kind of like Impress (OpenOffice's Powerpoint app).
[10:52] <park13> i just installed myphpadmin and it works but it is acting strange.  I will login and it will tell me to login again after i already did.  I will be using myphpadmin and then click on link and it will ask me to login. sometime if i login in with correct usrer and password it will deny access
[10:52] <YetiChick> topgun553: But I'm not a big fan of that kind of presentation software.
[10:53] <rambo3> E42, you need restricted drivers
[10:53] <topgun553> YetiChick, what kind of presentation software do you use
[10:53] <OuZo__> what is the command to upgrade to Festy? thanks (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - did not work)
[10:53] <E42> rambo3, hmm is there any .deb package with these drivers?
[10:53] <rambo3> E42, and firmware
[10:53] <kane77> deCon, or there is openbox, I installed it ran it and waited for it to load, until I realised it _is_ loaded (there was only mouse cursor on screen) :)
[10:53] <YetiChick> topgun553: I tend to build websites for making presentations.
[10:53] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, are the servers to upgrade to feisty still slow?
[10:54] <E42> OuZo__ , just get the feisty repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:54] <topgun553> YetiChick, ... websites???
[10:54] <jeroensum> park13, I think you might get more response here:  IRC: #phpmyadmin on irc.freenode.net
[10:54] <Tr0gd0r> anyone know how to get wireless on a macbook to work in ubuntu?
[10:54] <kirkunit> park13: seems more a like a problem with your server setup or php configuration than a problem with Ubuntu
[10:54] <YetiChick> topgun553: Yep.  No need to worry about compatibility - everyone has a browser.
[10:54] <rambo3> E42, no idea
[10:54] <topgun553> YetiChick, hahaha seems like too much work
[10:55] <OuZo__> E42: thanks, were is a example of the repositories or do i just change what ever was edgy to fest?
[10:55] <YetiChick> topgun553: Presentation software tends to encourage people to get "fancy" and lose the important points of their presentation.
[10:55] <deCon> kane77, ill check it out, thanks. got a lot of time to wait before that tiny project
[10:55] <jeroensum> park13, it's not to diss you, but it's like kirkunit said, not really an Ubuntu-like problem
[10:55] <park13> k
[10:55] <YetiChick> topgun553: Oh, there are a lot of easy website building toold, even if one isn't an old timer like me.  :)
[10:55] <rambo3> Quads, run gksudo update-manager -c
[10:55] <topgun553> YetiChick, My presentation was on a debatable topic... most people picked supreme court cases... I picked xbox 360 vs ps3 vs the wii
[10:56] <topgun553> *is
[10:56] <E42> oUzo__ . http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1591 . Just use the repos under 1. and 2.
[10:56] <rambo3> Ouzo_ , run gksudo update-manager -c
[10:56] <YetiChick> topgun553: Heh.  Interesting subject, and no less emotionally biased than Supreme Court cases.  :)
[10:57] <rambo3> or -d
[10:57] <Evensar> Hi! I have som problem with qbittorent. when i close the program and tries to open it again, it wount start again, what can be wrong?
[10:57] <fbn> how can I export evolutions address book into a format that mac's address book can understand?
[10:57] <OuZo__> E42: thanks
[10:57] <topgun553> hahha YetiChick yeah.... basically I am going to say Wii is gaining on 360 but 360 still has ace of spades (halo 3) and the ps3 just is good for protein folding applications
[10:58] <jeroensum> Evensar, maybe the program is daemonised?  check with ps uax | grep qbit  if the process is still running
[10:58] <YetiChick> topgun553: You might find this site interesting:  http://www.w3.org/2006/05/Slidy-XTech/#(1)
[10:58] <E42> OuZo__ , btw. if there will be problems with APT or GPT keys u have to fix it by your onw
[10:58] <magnetron> fbn, can mac understand vcard?
[10:59] <pekuja> is there an easy way to setup monitor spanning for two monitors in feisty?
[10:59] <YetiChick> topgun553:  Fair enough.  I have all three of the "last gen" consoles.  Have not yet picked up any of the new ones, although I'll probably end up with all three of them, too.
[10:59] <LsBlend> Can anybody help me with my problem? Pm me
[10:59] <topgun553> YetiChick, all 3?
[10:59] <fbn> magnetron: yes it does, but the vcard export from evolution seems to be strange because after the import all characters are chinese signs ...
[10:59] <pekuja> I've had enough trouble trying to do that by hand-modifying xorg.conf for Xinerama, I'm not up for that. With XRandr 1.2 it seemed to be pretty easy but that's not in Feisty yet.
[10:59] <LsBlend> Cant login fully, ubuntu freezes
[11:00] <jago25> YetiChick, I want to see this WiiWii wand thing
[11:00] <Evensar> jeroensum: Where do I check ps uax | grep qbit?
[11:00] <LsBlend> more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979&highlight=faulty+installation
[11:00] <LsBlend> any help appreciated
[11:00] <salah> hello. how do I find out what my wlan card is?
[11:00] <magnetron> fbn: ubuntu uses UTF-8 by default, maybe Mac OS doesn't use that?
[11:00] <jeroensum> Evensar, open a terminal (in the menu under accessoiries)
[11:00] <YetiChick> topgun553:  Gamecube, PS2, Xbox.
[11:00] <kaje> Anyone know how to make ubuntu not start X on boot? On FC6 I could set the default runlevel to 3, but Ubuntu(Debian) seem to use different runlevels...
[11:01] <fbn> magnetron: if i open the export on ubuntu in vim I have a lot of ^M (at the end of every line) is that normal?
[11:01] <Evensar> jeroensum: johan     5632 10.1  2.8  95892 29948 ?        Sl   22:40   2:08 qbittorrent
[11:01] <Evensar> johan     6226  0.0  0.0   2880   748 pts/0    R+   23:01   0:00 grep qbit
[11:01] <topgun553> YetiChick, I was just  suprised you planned on getting all 3 next gen
[11:01] <jeroensum> kaje, just remove the entry from /etc/init.d  :)
[11:01] <dyrne> kaje: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[11:01] <magnetron> fbn, i don't know, does the rest of the characters look OK?
[11:01] <Tr0gd0r> uggh i can install madwifi on feisty, gayness
[11:01] <kirkunit> saleh: try typing lspci in a terminal
[11:02] <Robbster> hey all. I've been using edgy on my home pc for a few months now. I just realised that although I have an AMD X2 chip, I'm only using 1 core! how do I get the smp kernel installed? I read that the generic kernel package will do it for me?
[11:02] <LsBlend> can anybody help me? When i try to login, it hangs and never reaches the desktop.
[11:02] <jeroensum> Evensar, seems like the thing is still running in the background, try a  killall -9 qbittorrent
[11:02] <deCon> anyone know why my terminal is telling me i'm having all kinds of ALSA errors
[11:02] <LsBlend> more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419979&highlight=faulty+installation
[11:02] <LsBlend> any help appreciated
[11:02] <dooglus> I click 'enable desktop effects' and it tells me 'desktop effects could not be enabled'.  where can I find more information?  I don't see any 'details' button.
[11:02] <dyrne> LsBlend: alt-ctrl-f2 and do df -h to check disk space then sudo adduser and try to login with new user
[11:02] <kaje> dyrne: if I change my mind later can I do a simple command like that to add it back?
[11:02] <shawn34> looking for a good winamp/amarok-like media player. Amarok is awsome but its to much for my second laptop, not too much ram.
[11:02] <fbn> magnetron: yes the rest is ok, but the field names are strange they have x-evolution in their names
[11:03] <jago25> Robbster, start with apt-cache search smp
[11:03] <dooglus> shawn34: beep-media-player?
[11:03] <kirkunit> Robbster: i have a similar setup and yes, the generic kernel should be fine
[11:03] <LsBlend> k ill try that.
[11:03] <Evensar> jeroensum: thanks it worked. any idea why it doesent shut downs completely?
[11:03] <shawn34> dooglus, playlist/collection editor?
[11:03] <knp> shawn34 beep media player
[11:03] <magnetron> fbn: all of the fields have x-evolujtion in them?
[11:03] <Robbster> jago25: I checked using synaptic. I don't want to break dependencies, so I want to ensure that the correct package is used.
[11:03] <YetiChick> topgun553:  Ah...  Well, I don't *plan* to, but if I see a game I want and don't have that console, I'll usually buy the console.
[11:03] <dyrne> kaje: yeah update-rc.d is the tool for adding the symlinks back so you dont have to do it manually. if youre unsure you can just sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm  then chmod +x to make it executable instead
[11:03] <stefg> !player | shawn34
[11:03] <ubotu> shawn34: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:03] <dooglus> shawn34: it's basically a winamp 2 work-alike
[11:04] <imbecile> Anyone, I put some of my ntfs partition to unallocated and I would like to add it to my ubuntu ext3 partition with gparted.. how do i do this?
[11:04] <Vaht> shawn34 Xmms
[11:04] <Jokiller> S! all ubuntu users
[11:04] <YetiChick> topgun553:  So I usually end up with all of them.
[11:04] <Robbster> kirkunit: is there anyway to check for a smp kernel, aside from using the system monitor?
[11:04] <gansinho> please, I'm trying to upgrate from edgy to feisty and I get the following error messege: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[11:04] <dooglus> I click 'enable desktop effects' and it tells me 'desktop effects could not be enabled'.  where can I find more information?  I don't see any 'details' button.
[11:04] <topgun553> YetiChick, aka why i bought a Halo player...
[11:04] <imbecile> please
[11:04] <rambo3> LsBlend, you dont have to repeat . sounds like old nvidia drivers in new system .  i know 0 about nvidia , and no wifi , sounds like you didnt install restricted drivers
[11:04] <jeroensum> Evensar, I'm not familiar with qbittorrent but it could be that it stays in de background to keep seeding, check de documentation for answers on that...  maybe there's a commandline switch or option in the program which prevents it...
[11:04] <jago25> Robbster, oh sorry generic kernel is ok; i'm out of date
[11:04] <dyrne> kaje: either update-rc.d or just remove executable flag
[11:04] <Lbawinowns> !mount lbawinowns
[11:04] <Lbawinowns> !mount
[11:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:04] <LsBlend> how do u?
[11:04] <Robbster> Linux hostname 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:04] <jago25> Robbster, so i guess it is using both
[11:04] <fbn> magnetron: no, but the mobile phone for example
[11:04] <LsBlend> lol
[11:04] <magnetron> fbn, i suspect a character encoding problem
[11:04] <Lbawinowns> !fstab
[11:04] <Evensar> jeroensum: ah ty=)
[11:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:05] <Robbster> jago25: system monitor disagrees :(
[11:05] <jeroensum> Evensar, NP  :)
[11:05] <salah> any idea how to get my wireless network card to work?
[11:05] <fbn> magnetron: TEL;TYPE=CELL;X-EVOLUTION-UI-SLOT=1:017574370
[11:05] <shawn34> dooglus, thanks, i'll check that out
[11:05] <jeroensum> LsBlend, we all started out somewhere sometime ;-)
[11:05] <fbn> magnetron: and I don't think that mac can read/understand this
[11:05] <danlock2> so, i'm playing with server edition, any ideas why the install seems to be sitting @ 85% php5-mysql
[11:05] <YetiChick> topgun553:  So I expect to have all three within a year or two.  :)
[11:05] <jago25> Robbster, i'm lost then, never been rich enough 4 dual core
[11:05] <kirkunit> robbster: you mean you want to find out which kernel your running?
[11:05] <LsBlend>  lol, but how do u  install restricted drivers?
[11:05] <Robbster> southafrikanse: hoezit ;)
[11:06] <imbecile> well im off to ruin ubuntu/windows.. :/
[11:06] <LsBlend> and i have a nvidia geforece 7300 LE
[11:06] <Robbster> kirkunit: yeah. I want to see if an smp aware kernel is installed.
[11:06] <imbecile> CAN I RESIZE A EXT3 PARITION!!!
[11:06] <rambo3> LsBlend, System -> administration -> manage restricted driver . it will tell you what you need to install
[11:06] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Great you? I need help once again. Being noob needs me to go right to the channel help xD
[11:06] <imbecile> :/
[11:06] <danlock2> so, i'm playing with server edition, any ideas why the install seems to be sitting @ 85% php5-mysql
[11:06] <m0n1t0r> Hello. Someone is having problem with the open office 2,2 Press
[11:06] <knp> imbecile yes u can
[11:06] <magnetron> fbn, that should not be any problem, the x-evolution is just redundant data. you have to transfer the vcf file in ascii mode
[11:06] <somatt> hello
[11:06] <magnetron> !caps
[11:06] <kirkunit> Robbster: uname -r  will tell you the current kernel
[11:06] <Tr0gd0r> anyone else have a problem compiling madwifi on feisty fawn
[11:06] <Robbster> southafrikanse: wasup?
[11:06] <somatt> can anyone give me the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu
[11:06] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:06] <|thunder> all: Whats a GUI app I can use to easily add files to an ISO ?
[11:07] <Robbster> kirkunit: humm, nothing about smp :(
[11:07] <|thunder> imbecile; yes, use gparted
[11:07] <LsBlend> i cant get to the desktop!, where do i get to that menu rambo3 ?
[11:07] <jago25> kirkunit, Robbster thought he had to install a special smp kernel as in days past but smp kernels are listed obselete so I guess it's in the generic kernel now anyway/  however, system monitor only lists one cpu. sys mon problem?
[11:07] <dyrne> somatt: a theme and some apps
[11:07] <mneptok> Tr0gd0r: why do you have to compile it?
[11:07] <danlock2> so, i'm playing with server edition, any ideas why the install seems to be sitting @ 85% php5-mysql
[11:07] <somatt> |thunder, what os? ubuntu?
[11:07] <dyrne> somatt: its skin deep
[11:07] <kane77> is there any scheduler in feisty or is  it just linux native??
[11:07] <somatt> thx dyne
[11:07] <somatt> dyrne
[11:07] <|thunder> somatt; yess
[11:07] <somatt> thx
[11:07] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: installed build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[11:07] <m0n1t0r> Hello. Someone is having problem with the open office 2,2 Press?
[11:07] <somatt> another question
[11:07] <jeroensum> kane77, there's allways cron  :-)
[11:07] <somatt> ubuntu is debian based right?
[11:08] <fbn> magnetron: I send the vcf file per mail to the mac, how can I control if it's ascii mode?
[11:08] <Robbster> jago25: I doubt it. My intel core2 duo chip is happily sing both cores (also edgy)
[11:08] <somatt> which is why apt-get works right?
[11:08] <shawn34> rythmbox is nice but i think it needs some updating.. its way too BIG
[11:08] <mwe> somatt: yeah
[11:08] <dac> yetichick, are you still there?
[11:08] <kane77> jeroensum, eh, I mean the cpu scheduler :)
[11:08] <knp> lsblend Ctrl + Alt + Backspace , then Alt + F6?
[11:08] <YetiChick> dac:  Yep.
[11:08] <|thunder> somatt; yess
[11:08] <southafrikanse> Robbster: When I start Ubuntu, a Windows appears saying: The application 'nm-applet' (/usr/bin/nm-applet) wants to access the default key, but this is locked". How can I disable this?
[11:08] <d0lph1nK1ng> anyone know what driver to install for an ATI TV Wonder Elite tv tuner card?
[11:08] <jeroensum> kane77, ah LOL srry bout that then :D
[11:08] <|thunder> all: Whats a GUI app I can use to easily add files to an ISO ?
[11:08] <LsBlend> k
[11:08] <LsBlend> thx
[11:08] <XYZZZ> ,,
[11:08] <kirkunit> Robbster: you could search for 'kernel' in synaptic, you'll see an SMP version there and it will tel lif you have it installed or not
[11:08] <imbecile> |thunder, i have another 20 GB to give ubuntu unallocated and have gparted open.. what do i do next?
[11:08] <XYZZZ> The best darn distro around ;)
[11:08] <Tr0gd0r> mwe thanks, installling build-essential now
[11:08] <kane77> jeroensum, np, that was bad question.. :)
[11:08] <Robbster> kirkunit: k, lemme check
[11:08] <Robbster> southafrikanse: nm-applet? is this a new install?
[11:09] <mwe> |thunder: k3b?
[11:09] <magnetron> fbn, i don't know. maybe you could zip it first? or another compression and choose text mode explicitly
[11:09] <sppatel> hi all, i just updated the vido card on my box running ubuntu 7.04 to hook inorder to get a dvi connection into my 30" apple cienma display. ubutu starts up on the display, but X server starts to fail.  Any ideas on what do i need to do?
[11:09] <kane77> is there any cpu scheduler in feisty or does it use just linux native one??
[11:09] <|thunder> imbecile; where it says 20GB, change it to 30
[11:09] <dac> I found out that the HD wont work in my old boxes.
[11:09] <|thunder> mwe; i tried that, can open an ISO for editing
[11:09] <kirkunit> Robbster: you might have to change your grub settings if you want it to boot the SMP kernel. I suspect the kernel version isn't the problem though, both your processors should be working with the generic kernel
[11:09] <somatt> I have ati video card.  Is this supported or what?  If so, how do I use my S-Video out?
[11:09] <jeroensum> kane77, I'm not really sure what u mean by an cpu scheduler
[11:09] <XYZZZ> sppatel, PPC or 386?
[11:09] <mwe> kane77: there is the powernowd
[11:09] <progek> anyone know how to setup vncviewer through terminal? I'm logged into my house remotely (ssh)
[11:09] <Robbster> kirkunit: 'dpkg -l|grep -i smp' only return smproxy :(
[11:09] <hydrozen> What does the smbpasswd command do exactly? I don't have a /etc/samba/smbusers file and just did smbpasswd and everything works... i would just like to know what smbpasswd does exactly
[11:09] <|thunder> mwe; id have to make a new ISO from scratch.
[11:09] <sppatel> XYZZZ: 386
[11:09] <Tr0gd0r> mwe: works now!!!
[11:09] <imbecile> |thunder, ok
[11:09] <southafrikanse> Robbster: When I type the default key. My Internet starts working
[11:10] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: great
[11:10] <XYZZZ> what type of card is it, sppatel?
[11:10] <fbn> magnetron: i don't see an option to select text mode with gnome archiver ...
[11:10] <Robbster> southafrikanse: wireless?
[11:10] <dyrne> |thunder: iso is a read only format so youd have to mount and copy files out and create new iso right?
[11:10] <somatt> I have ati mobility video card.  Is this supported or what?  If so, how do I use my S-Video out?
[11:10] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Yes
[11:10] <dac> Fry electronics suggested I bring back the HD
[11:10] <fbn> magnetron: but i'll try zip
[11:10] <kane77> jeroensum, that is the "thing" that schedules processes for cpu time...
[11:10] <mwe> |thunder: I see
[11:10] <rambo3> !fixres | LsBlend
[11:10] <ubotu> LsBlend: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:10] <|thunder> dyrne; no
[11:10] <sppatel> XYZZZ: ATI Radeon X1300
[11:10] <southafrikanse> Robbster: I want it do go on the Internet automatticaly
[11:10] <kevinh90> Hi
[11:10] <XYZZZ> sppatel, give me one second...
[11:10] <sppatel> sure
[11:11] <Robbster> southafrikanse: my install does the same :). As I understand it, you store your wireless access key 'securely' in your user account. The key is used to decode the stored wireless password so that you can get access to the network.
[11:11] <phoeni1> where can i download system sounds?
[11:11] <somatt> how do i install programs from tarballs?
[11:11] <dac> so, I'm going to ask around,if anyone has old computers they don't want.
[11:11] <dooglus> I click 'enable desktop effects' and it tells me 'desktop effects could not be enabled'.  where can I find more information?  I don't see any 'details' button.
[11:11] <progek> I'm trying to setup remote desktop from terminal. I'm connect to my house through ssh. Anyone know how I can do it?
[11:11] <mwe> !compile | somatt
[11:11] <ubotu> somatt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:11] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Yes. But I want to disable it.
[11:11] <phoeni1> !sounds
[11:12] <magnetron> fbn: another option would be to convert the file in Mac OS X from UTF-8 to the native macosx format (iso latin-1?)
[11:12] <phoeni1> !sound
[11:12] <konam> is there a way to get gfxboot on feisty?
[11:12] <phoeni1> aargh
[11:12] <Robbster> southafrikanse: I see that you have 2 routes. 1) put up with the key request and be happy that your wireless network is more secure (cough), or leave your wireless passwords unsecured.
[11:12] <YetiChick> dac:  Did you need anything?  I'm about to run and install some software on a client's computer, but I have a minute or two.
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <somatt> bang compile <filename> ?
[11:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:12] <Tr0gd0r> hmm i installed lilo and now my startup is verbose, it didnt used to be
[11:12] <Robbster> southafrikanse: humm, I've never nothered to try to disable it... lemme check quickly....
[11:12] <babo> guys, in terms of getting a dvd to work. i've already installed vlc and (apparently) the gstreamer libs ....
[11:12] <jeroensum> kane77, every process can be given a 'nice' value this will set the priority for the process, if that' s what you're getting at
[11:12] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: grub didn't work?
[11:12] <lobosque> how do i clone a hd in linux?
[11:12] <dac> no, but I do appreciate all you've done TY
[11:13] <danlock2> so, i'm playing with server edition, any ideas why the install seems to be sitting @ 85% php5-mysql
[11:13] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Thank you. I don't need to much protection cause where I live nobody as the knowledge to take anything from me
[11:13] <mwe> lobosque: dd or partimage
[11:13] <Tr0gd0r> damnit im trying to get lilo to install to the drive instead of the mbr
[11:13] <YetiChick> dac:  Any time.
[11:13] <Tr0gd0r> but it keeps going to the mbr
[11:13] <somatt> mwe: ! compile <filename> ?
[11:13] <anon_magik> feisty alternate cd: install but no prompt for user name only password.  What is default user name on install?
[11:13] <babo> how do I set the vlc to the default movie player ?
[11:13] <mwe> somatt: read the link
[11:13] <somatt> kk
[11:13] <babo> when I insert the dvd, I just see it as a directory :-(
[11:13] <Lbawinowns> Is it possible to resize ext3 partition? how ??
[11:13] <southafrikanse> Robbster: And I have no download/upload limit.
[11:13] <somatt> mwe: kk thx
[11:13] <phoeni1> does anyone know where i can get some system sounds like login/logoff etc :)
[11:14] <Robbster> kirkunit: I can't see any installed smp kernels when I boot. can I check my processor settings in /proc?
[11:14] <dac> ok
[11:14] <kevinh90> i am having trouble with my ATI(mach64 chipset) graphics card on feisty
[11:14] <Lbawinowns> I wanna add 3 gb to my / partition
[11:14] <lobosque> mwe if i clone a 80gb partition to a 160gb partition. will I be able to use the 80gb that left?
[11:14] <olimpico> I'm gettinf log_xxxx: not found errors everywhere:
[11:14] <olimpico> /etc/init.d/dbus: 118: log_action_begin_msg: not found
[11:14] <olimpico> invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "force-reload" failed.
[11:14] <kevinh90> i have searched the forums to find http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7200
[11:14] <olimpico> /etc/dbus-1/event.d/22dhcdbd: 61: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:14] <somatt> brb all
[11:14] <olimpico> dpkg: error processing dhcdbd (--configure):
[11:14] <olimpico>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:14] <babo> does anyone have the link to the dvd player tutorial ?
[11:14] <olimpico> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:14] <dooglus> I click 'enable desktop effects' and it tells me 'desktop effects could not be enabled'.  where can I find more information?  I don't see any 'details' button.
[11:14] <olimpico>  dhcdbd
[11:14] <mwe> lobosque: using partimage, yes
[11:14] <olimpico> I can't install, remove, anything
[11:14] <kevinh90> it shows a guide to get DRI working(what i am trying to do) but i cant get it to work
[11:14] <olimpico> Please help me
[11:14] <lobosque> mwe the new hd will boot normally?
[11:15] <somatt> how do i know if i already have a package installed?
[11:15] <phoeni1> olimpico: what is the error that you get?
[11:15] <kirkunit> kirkunit: so the system monitor isn't giving you percentages to 2 CPUs?
[11:15] <Jones> hello
[11:15] <mwe> lobosque: you'll have to configure grub to boot it
[11:15] <kevinh90> hi Jones
[11:15] <mwe> !grub | lobosque
[11:15] <ubotu> lobosque: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:15] <olimpico> phoeni1: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:15] <somatt> how do i know if i already have a package installed, for example how can I check if I have build-essential or another c++ compiler
[11:15] <dyrne> somatt: dpkg -L | grep -i packagename is one way i guess
[11:15] <Jones> Since I have 64bit Ubuntu 7.04 is that the reason my wifi internet wont connect?
[11:15] <magnetron> Lbawinowns, gparted is included on the desktop cd, it can resize some file systems. i heard it can resize ext3 too.
[11:16] <mwe> somatt: dpkg -l|grep build-essential
[11:16] <Jones> Im thinking of juts downloading the 84bit verson and using that
[11:16] <konam> is there a way to get gfxboot on feisty?
[11:16] <jeroensum> somatt, dpkg -l | grep <packagename>
[11:16] <hydrozen> What does the smbpasswd command do exactly? I don't have a /etc/samba/smbusers file and just did smbpasswd and everything works... i would just like to know what smbpasswd does exactly... like, where does it store the passwd i just set
[11:16] <Tr0gd0r> can someone tell me how to install lilo to the partition instead of to the mbr?
[11:16] <mwe> Jones: 84bit ?
[11:16] <babo> I want to play a dvd ... help !
[11:16] <somatt> thank you
[11:16] <olimpico> phoeni1: I get it everywhere, in the startup, by installing, by removing packages, by starting processes
[11:16] <Jones> 82
[11:16] <magnetron> !codecs > babo
[11:16] <Jones> sorry lol
[11:16] <mwe> Jones: ?
[11:16] <Robbster> kirkunit: sys mon only shows one cpu :(
[11:16] <kevinh90> babo, what version of ubuntu do you have
[11:16] <babo> kevinh90, feisty
[11:17] <kevinh90> if you have feisty it is very simple
[11:17] <babo> magnetron, thanks :-)
[11:17] <babo> kevinh90,  ?
[11:17] <mwe> Jones: 82bit is odd
[11:17] <tritonx> Is Q the best emulator for Feisty in OsX
[11:17] <somatt> ok so i got dpkg to work but not grep
[11:17] <progek> anyone know how to set up remote desktop through a terminal?
[11:17] <anon_magik> have a great day
[11:17] <mwe> somatt: so now sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:17] <kevinh90> just put it in, and when it tells you you dont have the codec, tell it to search
[11:18] <kane77> jeroensum, nah, it goes further than that, there are many schedulers (different time/memory complexity of switching tasks) and there is new one Completely fair scheduler that has O(1) complexity...
[11:18] <Lbawinowns> magnetron, must I do it from boot ?
[11:18] <somatt> mwe: but i don't know if i have the package, dpkg just showed me a list, and I am assuming build is in the bs so I can't see upwards of L
[11:18] <phoeni1> olimpico: you can try reconfiguring by dpkg -reconfigure -a
[11:18] <somatt> mwe: and i don't want to reinstall the package if I already have it, i am assuming that is bad
[11:18] <kane77> jeroensum, those are kernel stuff so Ill try asking there
[11:18] <Robbster> southafrikanse: check out:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281
[11:18] <somatt> mwe: but I could be wrong, I am coming from windows so there are a lot of assumptions which may not apply
[11:18] <mwe> somatt: it wont reinstall if you have it
[11:19] <somatt> ok cool
[11:19] <somatt> mwe: ok cool thanks
[11:19] <somatt> mwe: brb
[11:19] <Robbster> southafrikanse: apparently this is the fix. I'm emailing it to the office so that I can finally get rid of it on my laptop :)
[11:19] <Ravengbc> hows it going everyone?
[11:19] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Ok
[11:19] <magnetron> Lbawinowns: don't resize a partition that is mounted. that is why you should resize it after booting from the desktop cd
[11:19] <tomek_> hello
[11:19] <Robbster> lo Ravengbc: well :)
[11:20] <osarusan> hi... im having a weird sound problem. sound works fine in Gaim, but none of the Ubuntu system sounds will play, and I can't get audio in any other kind of file (i have the codecs installed.. they were working fine last night)
[11:20] <phoeni1> olimpico: dpkg-reconfigure -a that is.. might help.. dont know for sure
[11:20] <AForgue> Why does Vi act differently in Feisty?
[11:20] <Ravengbc> i am a completely new to ubuntu. recently installed fiesty.
[11:20] <Alain> Hey can somebody please tell me what XEN is
[11:20] <Robbster> Ravengbc: welcome.
[11:20] <Tr0gd0r> anyone know how to load modprobe ath_pci on startup?
[11:20] <mwe> AForgue: how so?
[11:20] <konam> Ravengbc what do you need, and welcome
[11:20] <zaggynl> !xen | Alain
[11:20] <konam> :)
[11:20] <ubotu> Alain: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[11:20] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Can I do this in Ubuntu 7.04?
[11:20] <Ravengbc> i've tried to get ndiswrapper to work with my linksys wpc54g v.3 card, and i can't seem to get it working properly. any suggestiongs?
[11:20] <J-_> !info zen
[11:20] <ubotu> Package zen does not exist in feisty
[11:20] <J-_> ...
[11:20] <Alain> Thanks
[11:20] <progek> anyone know how to set up remote desktop through a terminal?
[11:20] <J-_> !info xen
[11:20] <ubotu> Package xen does not exist in feisty
[11:20] <zaggynl> welcome
[11:20] <AForgue> mwe: When I am editing /etc/hosts or various other files, i or insert does not take me into insert mode
[11:20] <progek> i'm connected via ssh and need to set it up
[11:21] <somatt> mwe: now i have build-essential.  is that the best c++ compiler or are there multiples or what?  and do i need a c++ compiler for a program written in perl?
[11:21] <Kerion_> Was my question answered? I got disconnected
[11:21] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: sudo 'echo ath_pci > /etc/modules'
[11:21] <kirkunit> robbster: cat /proc/cpuinfo | less
[11:21] <olimpico> phoeni1: I'm trying it now
[11:21] <tomek_> HELLO ALL
[11:21] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: sudo 'echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules'
[11:21] <mwe> Tr0gd0r: not the first !!
[11:21] <tomek_> Tyrant ??
[11:21] <shawn34> have ubuntu fiesty on mother-in-law's old laptop, 256mb ram, looking for good guide to minimize system resources, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:21] <tomek_> ur playing tremulous ?
[11:21] <Tr0gd0r> thanks mwe
[11:21] <olimpico> phoeni1: I got the following:
[11:21] <olimpico>  * Starting ACPI services...                                                                                         [ ok ] 
[11:22] <olimpico> /etc/init.d/anacron: 49: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:22] <olimpico>    ...done.
[11:22] <lobosque> mwe i get this error when i try to ./configure partimage: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:22] <osarusan> can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[11:22] <olimpico> /etc/init.d/anacron: 49: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:22] <mwe> somatt: you don't need gcc to run perl programs. perl is installed by default
[11:22] <olimpico>    ...done.
[11:22] <southafrikanse> Robbster: I'm going to put my login password as the same as the keyring password.
[11:22] <olimpico> /etc/init.d/atd: 43: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:22] <olimpico> invoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "stop" failed.
[11:22] <phoeni1> shawn34: try xubuntu
[11:22] <olimpico> /etc/init.d/atd: 43: log_daemon_msg: not found
[11:22] <olimpico> invoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed.
[11:22] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Where can I do this?
[11:22] <somatt> mwe: ok well i have a tarball of a program written in perl
[11:22] <mwe> lobosque: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:22] <somatt> mwe: so how do i install
[11:22] <phoeni1> olimpico: did you just install?
[11:22] <Oritemis> hi guys, i had a extrem problem. I was update to faist faw, and when packages was been installed the power blackout. now, I can't boot into default kernel.
[11:22] <somatt> mwe: program is dvd::rip
[11:23] <shawn34> phoeni1, did already really doesn't make a difference.
[11:23] <melange> after upgrading to feisty (i think) my /dev/h* (i.e. harddrives) disapeared. "what" should i mount now?
[11:23] <Chai_Sangeen> hi
[11:23] <mwe> somatt: what program. usually just chmod +x it and run
[11:23] <progek> exit
[11:23] <kevinh90> Oritemis, is there any important data you need restored?
[11:23] <olimpico> phoeni1: The system has been working for weeks
[11:23] <phoeni1> shawn34: whats the specs of your machine?
[11:23] <somatt> mwe: i have a tarball on my desktop of the thing and I don't know how to get it into the os.
[11:23] <magnetron> !compile
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <tomek_> can someone tell me how to compare 2 files & save the diferences to specified file ?? can i do that in ubu ??
[11:23] <Oritemis> kevinh90, I booted in a old version of kernel. But Gnome is a mess.
[11:23] <dyrne> melange: sudo fdisk -l
[11:23] <olimpico> I originally installed edgy and upgraded some days ago to feisty, but till today I have problems
[11:24] <somatt> mwe: dvd::rip is the program.  site is http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/install.cipp#debian
[11:24] <mwe> somatt: unpack it first. usually click it
[11:24] <Oritemis> kevinh90, And yes, there a lot o data here.
[11:24] <olimpico> phoeni1:  I originally installed edgy and upgraded some days ago to feisty, but till today I have problems
[11:24] <Kerion_> How come my wireless card, D-Link SWL 520 rev.d is not supported in Fiesty, yet was in all the other ones?
[11:24] <Oritemis> there are*
[11:24] <southafrikanse> Where can I change my login password?
[11:24] <melange> dyrne: sd* - thanks :)
[11:24] <somatt> mwe: right so where do i unpack it to, anywhere? or do i have to get it in the /usr/bin/?
[11:24] <Lbawinowns> magnetron, is gpart on  a bit old cd's Ive got copy of a Dapper Drake, will that work?
[11:24] <jrib> southafrikanse: system > preferences > about me
[11:24] <kevinh90> Oritemis, try apt-get -ing the new kernel, and ubuntu-desktop, and do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:24] <mwe> southafrikanse: open a terminal and type passwd
[11:24] <cedricshock> Hi. Do any of you know how to turn an LCD backlight on and off from the command line?
[11:24] <kevinh90> southafrikanse, passwd
[11:24] <tomek_> 1 question please
[11:24] <kevinh90> tomek_, ask away
[11:24] <Robbster> kirkunit: the pastebin is giving me hastles. I think that the link you want is
[11:24] <Robbster> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+
[11:24] <southafrikanse> Thank you
[11:25] <babo> kevinh90, I've installed the gstreamer libs, checked for the libdvd libs and ran the install-css.sh script. Totem still won't play a dvd. I think perhaps it needs a bit more work to be classified as 'simple' ;-)
[11:25] <olimpico> A lot of things stoped working
[11:25] <somatt> mwe: also what version of debian is ubuntu based on?
[11:25] <SurfnKid> !w32codecs
[11:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:25] <Oritemis> kevinh90, I am running a dpkg --configure -a now.
[11:25] <mwe> somatt: put it in /usr/local ...
[11:25] <SurfnKid> !Codecs
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <phoeni1> olimpico: im not too knowledgeable regarding the details.. maybe someone else might be able to help..
[11:25] <kevinh90> babo i am going to try setting up dvd here
[11:25] <SeveredCross> somatt: I think sarge, but I'm not sure...
[11:25] <tomek_> can i compare 2 file (yes i know "cmp" command) and "automatically" save found differences to a file ???
[11:25] <mwe> somatt: don't put your own stuff in /usr/...
[11:25] <phoeni1> olimpico: googling now
[11:25] <SeveredCross> tomek: diff file1 file2 > diff.txt
[11:25] <kevinh90> i have a nearly fresh feisty install
[11:25] <TJensen> Has anyone managed to mount USB disks with write permissions without putting it into fstab?
[11:25] <babo> kevinh90, it tells me that totem doesn't have the appropriate plugins to play the movie ...
[11:25] <magnetron> Lbawinowns: i don't know. if you need a bootable cd with gparted, there is one availiable at the gparted homepage. it is a smaller download.
[11:25] <tomek_> THANKS MAN :):)
[11:26] <southafrikanse> What happened to Skype on Ubuntu 7.04?
[11:26] <Robbster> southafrikanse: the walkthrough in getting it running should work fine for fiest (7.04). just 1st try to get the packages before trying to compile. much easier.
[11:26] <mwe> TJensen: mine mounts rw by default
[11:26] <dyrne> TJensen: mount -o umask=000 /dev/blah /mnt ?
[11:26] <Oritemis> kevinh90, I hope it will make it work
[11:26] <olimpico> phoeni1: I have been goggling for hours
[11:26] <southafrikanse> Robbster: Ok
[11:26] <Robbster> southafrikanse: have you enabled the other repositories?
[11:26] <olimpico> phoeni1: And got nothing
[11:26] <kirkunit> TJenson: I had to reformat my external USB as ext3 before I could write to it. it was pre-formatted ntfs
[11:26] <somatt> mwe: because it has apt-get sources but there are 4 sources and I don't know which is the right one to add to my source list to apt-get it
[11:26] <southafrikanse> Robbster: What do you meen?
[11:26] <|thunder> Can an ISO be mounted with write support ?
[11:26] <Oritemis> kevinh90, but i am completely unsure.
[11:27] <kirkunit> Robbster: i couldn't see the link
[11:27] <somatt> mwe: the sources on the website are sarge, etch, sid, and expiramental
[11:27] <mwe> somatt: the most recant probably
[11:27] <somatt>  mwe: i don't know which is the most recent
[11:27] <mwe> somatt: sid, probably
[11:27] <kevinh90> Oritemis, when i messed up an upgrade, i did a apt-get dist-upgrade after it failed, and it fixed just about all the problems
[11:27] <phoeni1> olimpico: its a dependancy problem
[11:27] <somatt> mwe: ok will it break everything if i do the wrong one
[11:27] <Robbster> southafrikanse: brb ...
[11:28] <TJensen> Does that work with the 'automount' in KDE?
[11:28] <mwe> somatt: just uninstall it if it does'nt work
[11:28] <phoeni1> olimpico: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lighttpd-maintainers/2005-December/000019.html
[11:28] <Oritemis> kevinh90, oh good to know. I will try if it doesn't work. Thank you.
[11:28] <kevinh90> sarge is old, etch is current, sid is dangerous, and experimental is experimental
[11:28] <mwe> ubuntu current is based on sid
[11:28] <ttrt> Hello. Cannot mount CD/DVD in Feisty - where is a good place to start looking for a solution?
[11:29] <olimpico> phoeni1: Do you think is the same problem I have?
[11:29] <kevinh90> babo, i am getting the same error as you
[11:29] <phoeni1> olimpico: most probably
[11:29] <Oritemis> ttrt, fstab
[11:29] <olimpico> phoeni1: I just don't understand, what should i do?
[11:29] <Ravengbc> Konam, did you get any of my pvt messages?
[11:29] <somatt> mwe:
[11:29] <babo> kevinh90, I'm going through the gstreamer libs and installing them one by one ...
[11:29] <konam> Ravengbc no, im not logged
[11:29] <magnetron> ttrt: does the user in question have permisions to mount cd:s? look in System > Admin >users and groups
[11:29] <Oritemis> ttrt, check if there are a "auto" there
[11:29] <Robbster> southafrikanse: bookmark this link: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[11:29] <jamisnemo> how does ubuntu auto config soundcards? mine is not working at all
[11:29] <konam> but whatever you wanna say you can say it here
[11:29] <konam> :)
[11:29] <steharg79_> my panels have just disappeared - anyone know how to get them back?
[11:29] <somatt> mwe: so i added the source deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main to my sources list then It tried to update the catalog, and it says I have no public key
[11:30] <Robbster> it contains all sorts of info. take some time. There's lots of good stuff in there.
[11:30] <dyrne> jamisnemo: you have onboard and pci cards?
[11:30] <ttrt> this is what is says: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:30] <kirkunit> !sound
[11:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:30] <tomek_> veeeeeeeeeeery simple question : directory removing ?
[11:30] <ttrt> I'm not familiar with the scd0
[11:30] <jrib> somatt: don't use debian repos.  Why do you want to use that repository?
[11:30] <sam_kaay> How can you change the permissions of a specific directory? I would like to make it so i can drag and drop files into the www DIR
[11:30] <Robbster> tomek_: use mv (move)
[11:30] <Ravengbc> has nothing to do with not wanting to say it in here. has to do with the fact that there's a whole lot of traffic in here and no one seems to have had a chance to read my original question.
[11:30] <somatt> jrib: i don't know I just want this program dvd::rip
[11:30] <Galga> hi, can i upgrade my distro 6.10 to 7.04 now?
[11:30] <orbin> steharg79_: try killall gnome-panel
[11:31] <tomek_> dont want to move - need to REMOVE :)
[11:31] <magnetron> tomek_: right click and choose "move to trash bin"
[11:31] <Robbster> tomek_: mv /path/to/old/dir /path/to/destination
[11:31] <jrib> !info dvdrip | somatt
[11:31] <ubotu> somatt: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[11:31] <k001> any help, a need increment the brightness on my laptop vaio
[11:31] <tomek_> from terminal
[11:31] <jrib> somatt: dvdrip is in multiverse
[11:31] <ttrt> and yes, I have admin rights
[11:31] <kevinh90> Galga, replace all the "edgy"'s with "feisty"'s in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <Robbster> tomek_: rmdir dirname
[11:31] <k001> i'm uses feisty
[11:31] <phoeni1> phoeni1: the drastic thing to do would be to remove ubuntu-desktop and reinstall it again.. i dont know if that will solve it.. if you have the feisty cd and its respective entry in the sources.list, the process will be faster. but you should ask someone knowledgeable for a proper solution.
[11:31] <tomek_> thank You
[11:31] <kevinh90> Galga, and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <dyrne> tomek_: for empty dir do 'rmdir' for non empty you need recursive del so rm -r dir/
[11:31] <TJensen> How do I control the settings of /media/.hal-mtab? It is automatically written when e.g. a USB device is added
[11:31] <tomek_> bye bye all :)
[11:31] <steharg79_> orbin: it says 'no process killed
[11:31] <jamisnemo> dyrne:  I have onboard sound on a laptop
[11:32] <somatt> jrib: THANK YOU
[11:32] <phoeni1> olimpico:the drastic thing to do would be to remove ubuntu-desktop and reinstall it again.. i dont know if that will solve it.. if you have the feisty cd and its respective entry in the sources.list, the process will be faster. but you should ask someone knowledgeable for a proper solution.
[11:32] <hwMoD> Hello all, I'd like to install Ubuntu on a 256MB ram P3 laptop - what can I do to make it light and shiny? TIA
[11:32] <Tehkain> Anyone know if nvidia-glx can work on fiesty?
[11:32] <somatt> ubotu: THANK YOU
[11:32] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:32] <somatt> mwe: THANK YOU!
[11:32] <k001> the gentoo documentation don't help me
[11:32] <Robbster> kirkunit: did you get my cpu post from cat /proc/cpuinfo (model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+)
[11:32] <deCon> is there any reason to use one kernal over another in feisty...for a dual-core AMD?
[11:32] <kirkunit> Tehkain: try nvidia-glx-new
[11:32] <orbin> steharg79_: try just gnome-panel
[11:32] <Galga> kevinh90, a newer version of update manager was available and after the update, an option of upgrade distro appeared and i clicked upgrade
[11:32] <Quark_> Hello
[11:32] <Tr0gd0r> hey mew
[11:32] <Tehkain> kirkunit, well i need to use wine and the 9755 have a glx error
[11:32] <Tr0gd0r> mwe: sudo: echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules: command not found
[11:32] <kevinh90> Galga, that works too
[11:33] <dooglus> I click 'enable desktop effects' and it tells me 'desktop effects could not be enabled'.  where can I find more information?  I don't see any 'details' button.
[11:33] <konam> Ravengbc what is your question?
[11:33] <steharg79_> orbin: marvellous - its back up now - easy when you know how! cheers
[11:33] <deCon> Robbset, do you use one kernel over another for your CPU, i have the 4400 and am wondering what is best for our CPUs
[11:33] <Galga> kevinh90, will i need to perform the aforementioned steps as well ?
[11:33] <SnD> Just Installed v7.04 (Desk Top Ed) on a Dell Latitude 620. Got nVidia working. Now need help with Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card. I understand that firmware has disconnect problems. Is this correct? Any takers?
[11:33] <deCon> dooglus, check if your video card is compatible with the features desktop effects gives
[11:33] <kirkunit> Robbster: i couldn't see the pastebin url - probably to do with my IRC client or something, anyway can you see 2 CPUs listed here?
[11:33] <kipp1> hey
[11:33] <kevinh90> Galga, no, you dont need to.  Synaptic upgrade does the same thing
[11:33] <orbin> steharg79_: yw
[11:33] <Ravengbc> Konam, has to do with getting a Linksys WPC54G v. 3 to work on Fiesty be it through ndiswrapper or something else.
[11:33] <babo> please install the necessary plugins and restart totem in order to play the dvd ....
[11:33] <magnetron> hwMoD: the Xubuntu edition of ubuntu is especially lightweight. keep in mind that the usual ubuntu is often swifter than windows xp
[11:33] <babo> what a joke ....
[11:33] <dyrne> jamisnemo: what does amixer command say? (dont paste it here :))
[11:34] <deCon> babo, use something other than totem
[11:34] <Galga> kevinh90, thanks
[11:34] <dooglus> deCon: it is.
[11:34] <addams> i screwed up my panels, when I minimize a window, i cant see it
[11:34] <dooglus> deCon: I've used it with beryl in dapper and sid
[11:34] <jamisnemo> dyrne:  no such device.... but the module I need is loaded just fine
[11:34] <konam> Ravengbc go to Administration-->restricted drivers and install any driver listed there, i should go for a moment, brb
[11:34] <deCon> dooglus, maybe it is a bug, it does that for me too. but i just use beryl instead
[11:34] <kevinh90> Galga, if the synaptic upgrade fails, then do the other way
[11:34] <hwMoD> magnetron - I don't mind it being somewhat slow, as it won't be my main computer. is xubuntu overly lightweight, or is it meant for my kinda situation? (And thanks)
[11:34] <k001> any help, a need increment the brightness on my laptop vaio, the documentation from gentoo don't help me
[11:34] <jengerer> Anyone know how to boot from ISO?
[11:34] <kipp1> this is going to sound a really silly question. But I added something to my xsession config i think, and now when I log in I get a black screen, but I can't rember what file I added, how can I track it down?
[11:34] <jamisnemo> dyrne:  the card worked under gentoo... ubuntu just can't figure it out
[11:35] <southafrikanse> What happened to Skype on Ubuntu Feisty?
[11:35] <kevinh90> jengerer, you have to burn the ISO to a CD as a CD image first
[11:35] <dooglus> jengerer: 1) burn iso to cd; 2) boot from cd
[11:35] <babo> deCon: I've installed vlc, but it doesn't 'see' the dvd. It just sees the directory ... How do I set vlc to be the default player ?
[11:35] <J7r41n> is there way to change the default boot setup from ubuntu to windows?
[11:35] <jengerer> yeah, I got that, but my cd drive is broken
[11:35] <magnetron> addams: right click a panel, add the window list (or whatever it is called in english)
[11:35] <dooglus> J7r41n: yes
[11:35] <deCon> babo, and you can see the dvd on your desktop? is cdrom0 mounted?
[11:36] <somatt> exit
[11:36] <babo> deCon: yeah, it's mounted. I can see it on the desktop. Totem tells me it can't play it cause it doesn't have the plugins ...
[11:36] <orbin> kipp1: which file?
[11:36] <J7r41n> dooglus: how can i do that?
[11:36] <Tr0gd0r> tr0gd0r@Macbook:~$ sudo echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules
[11:36] <Tr0gd0r> -bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
[11:36] <hwMoD> magnetron - If I install ubuntu, then find it too heavy, is it possible to migrate it (somehat) easily into xubuntu?
[11:36] <deCon> babo, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:36] <Tr0gd0r> why would permission be denied if im using sudo?
[11:36] <nixnoob> is there a way to convert rpms to .debs?
[11:36] <Galga> kevinh90, ok thanks
[11:37] <dooglus> J7r41n: are you using grub?  if so, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:37] <addams> magnetron: thanks, that fixed it
[11:37] <J7r41n> ok, thanks
[11:37] <kipp1> can't remeber, added something like xsession or something, it wasn't there and i created it, my fault!!
[11:37] <kevinh90> i remember back in my gentoo days, a dvd had to be unmounted before you could play it
[11:37] <kirkunit> nixnoob: i think alien does that
[11:37] <dooglus> J7r41n: I don't know if there's a more user-friendly way to do it
[11:37] <nixnoob> kirkunit sudo apt-get install alien?
[11:37] <magnetron> hwMoD: hmm i was thinking about that... will investigate
[11:37] <kirkunit> nixnoob: yep
[11:37] <hwMoD> nice, thanks
[11:37] <phoeni1> Tr0gd0r: try sudo su and then the command..
[11:37] <dyrne> nixnoob: what are you installing? normally most things are in repos
[11:38] <kevinh90> nixnoob, most places that provide rpm's also provide debs
[11:38] <nixnoob> sopcast
[11:38] <DaaEnD>   mIRCArab  By  
[11:38] <SnD> I just installed Feisty on a Dell Latitude D620. I need help with Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card. I've read that "fwcutter" has disconnect problems. Is this correct? Any takers?
[11:38] <babo> deCon: feisty
[11:38] <southafrikanse> Where can I install Skype on Ubuntu Feisty?
[11:38] <Robbster> Would any kernel modules force a single code kernel? I wouldn't expect it to
[11:38] <deCon> babo, wierd, they should already be there. I would ask someone else, I'm fresh as well
[11:38] <MindOfChaos> No!!!
[11:38] <dooglus> southafrikanse: anywhere you like.  I suggest /usr/local/
[11:38] <Tr0gd0r> phoeni1 that worked thanks
[11:38] <pidgas> SnD, I can't speak specifically to your chip/driver combo
[11:38] <somatt> ok another question, I installed dvd rip from the synaptics package manager
[11:38] <Ravengbc> i've set up ndiswrapper for my Linksys card, and when i do the command ndiswrapper -l i get the following result:
[11:38] <Ravengbc> lsbcmnds : driver installed
[11:38] <Ravengbc> device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver :bcm43xx)
[11:38] <Ravengbc> yet, the card still won't work. any suggestions?
[11:38] <somatt> now where is it so i can run it
[11:38] <dyrne> !skype | southafrikanse consider one of the sip clients instead
[11:38] <babo> deCon: k thanks
[11:38] <ubotu> southafrikanse consider one of the sip clients instead: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:38] <magnetron> hwMoD: it is possible to migrate. it is also possible to have both installed an choose at login time
[11:38] <roderic> babo, got to preferences -> removable drives and media
[11:39] <MindOfChaos> Ubuntu copyed the annoying windows start up sound that sends you deaf every time the computer starts
[11:39] <phoeni1> Tr0gd0r: np :)
[11:39] <pidgas> SnD, but I use ndiswrapper with a broadcom 4318 and it works ok
[11:39] <hwMoD> awesome
[11:39] <hwMoD> I'll get going installing then
[11:39] <orbin> SnD: lspci | grep Wireless
[11:39] <somatt> so I installed dvd rip from the synaptics package manager, now where is the program so i can run it?
[11:39] <southafrikanse> ubotu: sip clients? What's that?
[11:39] <hwMoD> I'll make sure to keep you posted if i go deep into stuff, and thanks for the help
[11:39] <kipp1> test
[11:39] <SnD> pdgas, dis you have to blacklist the chipset?
[11:39] <psycose> do you know why ubuntu feisty lag so much ?
[11:39] <orbin> Ravengbc: define won't work
[11:40] <southafrikanse> dyrne: sip clients?
[11:40] <pidgas> SnD, yes, I did
[11:40] <dyrne> southafrikanse:  skype network is proprietary there are other clients like ekiga etc that use sip protocol and all work together.
[11:40] <MindOfChaos> psycose doesn't lag on my computer
[11:40] <babo> roderic: k thanks :-) ... you don't happen to know the command line equivalent though do you ?
[11:40] <roderic> babo, then go to the multimedia tab, and in the "video dvd discs" option, replace totem with vlc
[11:40] <orbin> Ravengbc: does it light up when you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[11:40] <magnetron> hwMoD: xubuntu is very lightweight, it only needs 64MB ram (minimum)
[11:40] <roderic> babo, ah, not sure atm
[11:40] <MindOfChaos> Then again im basically running a full on gaming rig
[11:40] <deCon> how do i organize which kernel is at top of grub?
[11:40] <psycose> on my dell laptop it's a noghtmare it was ok with edgy ...
[11:40] <babo> roderic: k got it thanks.
[11:40] <pidgas> SnD, xubuntu ROCKS!
[11:40] <kipp1> orbin: can't remeber, added something like xsession or something, it wasn't there and i created it, my fault!!
[11:40] <dyrne> southafrikanse: if your friend is on skype and wont change then i guess youre stuck but i prefer open solution
[11:40] <phoeni1> deCon: edit grub config fiel
[11:40] <roderic> babo, remember to keep the  %m after vlc though
[11:40] <SnD> orbin, lspci | grep Wireless =  Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[11:41] <southafrikanse> dyrne: If I install ekiga can I see my skype contacts? And talk to them?
[11:41] <somatt> so I installed dvd rip from the synaptics package manager, now where is the program so i can run it?
[11:41] <kaje> I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on to a system and it didn't detect the right video card (it's a dual monitor card)... what tool do I run to choose the right video card?
[11:41] <babo> roderic: right
[11:41] <phoeni1> deCon: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Configuration.html
[11:41] <dyrne> southafrikanse: no.  thats why skype is evil :).  if you have friends on skype then use skype
[11:41] <SnD> pidgas: Did you follow any particular HOWTO?
[11:41] <Ravengbc> well, when i go into the network manager, i see wlan0 and eth2 that are both supposed to be wireless, yet it won't let me configure them. If i use the network manager icon up by the clock and what not, i'm able to configure the wpa key and ssid, but not the ip information.
[11:41] <babo> roderic: what is %m there btw ?
[11:41] <babo> argument ?
[11:41] <MindOfChaos> I wanna turn off the deafing ubuntu start up sound
[11:41] <jamisnemo> How can ubuntu NOT detect a friggin soundcard!!! errrrrrgh
[11:41] <delire> somatt: type dvdrip in a terminal. it may not show up in the menu
[11:41] <Tr0gd0r> finally im done installing ubuntu, os x and xp on my mac
[11:41] <MindOfChaos> I just about lose my hearing with it
[11:41] <dooglus> dyrne: what does open client mean?
[11:42] <roderic> babo, gives the program the url for the movie, without it, it just would open vlc
[11:42] <pidgas> SnD, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2495053
[11:42] <kirkunit> somatt: it should be in you applications menu under sound and video
[11:42] <Tehkain> Is there a way to get the nvidia-glx working in feisty(the glx-new do not work right with wine)
[11:42] <jrib> MindOfChaos: system > preferences > sounds
[11:42] <orbin> SnD: you can use ndiswrapper it seems
[11:42] <dyrne> dooglus: i made it up. sounds good huh?
[11:42] <orbin> SnD: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:42] <babo> roderic: ah, thanks
[11:42] <dooglus> dyrne: do you mean you just hate skype?
[11:42] <delire> Tr0gd0r: eek, that'd drive me mad.
[11:42] <orbin> SnD: that'd be something to try if fwcutter doesn't work for you
[11:42] <Svish> how do I exit vim??
[11:42] <jrib> Svish: :q
[11:42] <dooglus> Svish: :q!
[11:42] <Ravengbc> when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper it just goes right back to the cmd line. doesn't appear to do anything.
[11:42] <PlH> hey.. im trying to compile anjuta 2.1.1 on feisty but i keep getting an error that glib-2.0 >= 2.8.0 but 2.0.7 was found .. i have checked my packages and aptitude show i have 2.12.11 what am i doing wrong ?
[11:42] <Svish> thank you, lol. I was stuck in recovery mode :P
[11:43] <dooglus> Ravengbc: that's good
[11:43] <dyrne> dooglus: i just dont like closed solutions that dont allow competition
[11:43] <nixnoob> anyone use sopcast on feisty before?
[11:43] <orbin> kipp1: did you edit a file i meant?
[11:43] <dooglus> dyrne: you're allowed to compete with skype if you like
[11:43] <babo> roderic: k, got it working thanks ...
[11:43] <somatt> kirkunit: not there
[11:43] <roderic> babo, your welcome
[11:43] <vadvad> hi! , how can i use nvidia tv out in ubuntu?
[11:43] <dyrne> dooglus: youre right that was poorly phrased
[11:43] <bytecolor> can I add gvim as an alternative for gnome-text-editor?
[11:43] <pidgas> SnD, sorry, bad linky...try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[11:43] <somatt> kirkunit: now it is there?
[11:43] <somatt> kirkunit: ok i guess i am dumb
[11:43] <tgm4883> does anyone have a guide for NFS on dapper?
[11:44] <coolgeek> is any one available to help with an ssh problem
[11:44] <kirkunit> somatt: try typing dvdrip in a terminal
[11:44] <kipp1> orbin: i am pretty sure i created a new file
[11:44] <MindOfChaos> jrib lol zi must of been completetly blind before. /me smaks his head for being stupid
[11:44] <arnold-0953> i need help deleting a partition with gparted (i am getting an error message)
[11:44] <petrik> how can I see what HDC,CDROM,HDA,SDA are all belonging to?
[11:44] <jrib> !ask | coolgeek
[11:44] <ubotu> coolgeek: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:44] <orbin> Ravengbc: does lsmod | grep ndiswrapper show it's laoded?  does iwconfig show a wireless interface?
[11:44] <babo> kevinh90, try vlc with the win codecs dude. There's a multimedia repo here that you should add to your sources.list ...
[11:44] <orbin> kipp1: was this terminal work?
[11:44] <babo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413625
[11:44] <vadvad> hi! , how can i use nvidia tv out in ubuntu?
[11:44] <Ravengbc> iwconfig does not.
[11:44] <barbarella_me> coolgeek:that's why you are here
[11:44] <coolgeek> im having problems getting ssh running on this machine.  Im new to Ubuntu but having been using fedora
[11:44] <coolgeek> i dont seem to have ssh installed
[11:44] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: try umount -a on a terminal and then try partitioning
[11:44] <orbin> kipp1: maybe look through ~/.bash_history to see what you did
[11:44] <coolgeek> but the closet thing i can find to it is openssh
[11:44] <kipp1> orbin: yeah
[11:44] <jrib> coolgeek: ssh isn't installed by default
[11:45] <jrib> !ssh > coolgeek (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:45] <dooglus> coolgeek: you can run ssh by typing 'ssh' and hitting return, but it works best when you tell it which host to connect to
[11:45] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: on second thought.. what is the error that you get?
[11:45] <vadvad> hi! , how can i use nvidia tv out in ubuntu?
[11:45] <jlulian38> 7.04 has caused an #ubuntu spike o_O
[11:45] <kirkunit> coolgeek: sudo aptitude install ssh
[11:45] <magnetron> coolgeek: it is divided to a client package and a server package
[11:45] <Ravengbc> when i try to do the ismod command it says that the command cannot be found. any particular place i need to do it at?
[11:45] <coolgeek> sorry not sure im being clear, although thanks for your help so far.
[11:45] <Tr0gd0r> ok so ath_pci is loaded at startup but i still cant connect wireless
[11:45] <coolgeek> wow its busy in here, can we do this in a private window
[11:45] <Svish> bah! im giving up getting the graphics card to work on my laptop..
[11:45] <orbin> Ravengbc: please prepend my nick so iyour messages are highlighted for me
[11:45] <barbarella_me> coolgeek:client or server?
[11:45] <coolgeek> server
[11:45] <jrib> coolgeek: just hilight who you are speaking to
[11:46] <vadvad> hi! , how can i use nvidia tv out in ubuntu?
[11:46] <orbin> Ravengbc: does lsmod | grep ndiswrapper show it's loaded?
[11:46] <arnold-0953> phoeni1: the drive isn't mounted. I am getting: "Partition map has no partition map entry! \n Attempt to read sectors 128-128 outside of partition on /dev/sda"
[11:46] <barbarella_me> coolgeek:apt-get install openssh-server
[11:46] <magnetron> !traffic
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[11:46] <deCon> is there any specific reason why changing kernel from 386 to generic hiccup'd my system? I had to restart GNOME twice to get it to seem better on the CPU
[11:46] <barbarella_me> coolgeek:it is not installed in ubuntu by default
[11:46] <PurpZee> What is the best way to set up Ubuntu to share files on a local network?
[11:46] <Ravengbc> Orbin ok. but, whenever i do the ismod | grep command it says that ismod: command not found
[11:47] <orbin> Ravengbc: replace i with a small L :)
[11:47] <colbert> Just recently when I start my comp and login, my top panel is fine but my bottom panel and all desktop icons are missing, and right clicking on the desktop does nothing.. if I log out and back into gnome, though, it's fine.. any ideas ????
[11:47] <coolgeek> jrib what did u mean by highlight? that didnt seem to work
[11:47] <barbarella_me> Ravengbc:sudo?!!
[11:47] <jrib> coolgeek: I just meant, address the person you are speaking to by prefixing what you say with their name (exactly what you just did).  What didn't work?
[11:47] <roderic> PurpZee, you using ubuntu desktop or server?
[11:47] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: if your drive doesnt contain any valuable data, you might want to create a partiton table. i emphasis data because if you rewrite a partition table, youl lose all data.. this is also sometimes called a low level format
[11:47] <vadvad> someone? : hi! , how can i use nvidia tv out in ubuntu?
[11:47] <magnetron> coolgeek: include the name of the person you are talking to in your message, please
[11:48] <MajorApus> can someone help me get my digitla output of my soundcard working?
[11:48] <somatt> so dvd::rip wants me to use xine or mplayer
[11:48] <jrib> vadvad: yes, try setting it up by running 'nvidia-settings'
[11:48] <coolgeek> jrib sorry now i am getting with this!! I dont really use irc.
[11:48] <jamisnemo> ubuntu can not find my sound card when I point it out = back to gentoo I go.
[11:48] <somatt> so dvd::rip wants me to use xine or mplayer, but i don't have either I have totem
[11:48] <coolgeek> jrib i want to get the server installed
[11:48] <arnold-0953> phoeni1: yes, i was planning on just wiping it - there isn't any data I need
[11:48] <vadvad> jrib: how do i get to that?
[11:48] <jamisnemo> nice distro! it still needs more work though
[11:48] <Ravengbc> Orbin, i get this: ndiswreapper 194688 0; usbcore 134288 6 ndiswrapper, xpad, usbhid, ehc1_hcd, uhc1_hcd
[11:48] <arnold-0953> phoeni1: how can I create / learn how to create a partition table?
[11:48] <coolgeek> jrib: in fedora i would have used the rpm command
[11:48] <Pelo> somatt,  just install one or the other, or both
[11:48] <somatt> do i have to install xine or can i use totem instead
[11:49] <somatt> pelo: do i have to install xine or can i use totem instead
[11:49] <coolgeek> jrib: but you cant seem to do that with fedora
[11:49] <magnetron> coolgeek: use synaptic, search for openssh-server package and install it
[11:49] <orbin> Ravengbc: ok, it's loaded.  have you blacklisted bcm43xx?
[11:49] <jrib> coolgeek: if you install "openssh-server" you get the server.  If you install "ssh" you'll get the server and the client.  You should have a private message from ubotu with more info.  I'll send you info on APT as well so you can know how to install things
[11:49] <jrib> !apt > coolgeek (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:49] <Ravengbc> Orbin no. i take it i need to?
[11:49] <Pelo> somatt,  I honestly donT' know , but installing them doesn'T mean you have to remove totem
[11:49] <krang> :(
[11:49] <jrib> vadvad: you have installed nvidia drivers?
[11:49] <somatt> pelo: also i can't seem to find xine or mplayer in the add programs, I guess I can search the synaptics
[11:49] <vadvad> just what is installed here by defult...
[11:50] <Pelo> somatt,   in the terminal   sudo apt-get install xine mplayer
[11:50] <orbin> Ravengbc: yes, otherwise it's likely to use that over ndiswrapper.  just to confirm, does lsmod | grep bcm43xx return anything?
[11:50] <magnetron> somatt: totem can make use of all the gstreamer plugins
[11:50] <vadvad> i wanted to but been told that it will cause problems.
[11:50] <jrib> vadvad: if you want to use tv-out I think you need the nvidia drivers
[11:50] <somatt> magnetron: so can i use that with dvd rip instead?
[11:50] <barbarella_me> coolgeek:open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:50] <jrib> vadvad: what problems?
[11:50] <somatt> magnetron: how do i point it there?
[11:50] <Ravengbc> Orbin yes, it does.
[11:50] <deCon> i dont get why my computer seems to run so differently at different times
[11:50] <deCon> under the same loads
[11:50] <Ravengbc> Orbin, so how do i go about blacklisting it?
[11:50] <magnetron> somatt: dvdrip? i don't understand
[11:50] <vadvad> i don't know. if i knew somthing i wouldn't be here
[11:51] <taigeR> i installed Amarok, which also installed a bunch of dependencies. How can I now remove these dependencies and Amarok?
[11:51] <vadvad> :)
[11:51] <somatt> dvdrip is a program which rips dvds apparently using mplayer or xine to view them
[11:51] <orbin> Ravengbc: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:51] <jrib> vadvad: heh, you should be fine installing the nvidia drivers.  The only bad thing is they are not open source
[11:51] <jrib> !nvidia > vadvad (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:51] <somatt> magnetron: dvdrip is a program which rips dvds apparently using mplayer or xine to view them
[11:51] <kirkunit> taigeR: did you install amarok using aptitude or synaptic?
[11:51] <vadvad> 10x
[11:51] <taigeR> kirkunit, synaptic
[11:51] <kipp1> orbin: i am pretty sure i created a new file
[11:51] <magnetron> somatt, in what format does it rip it? divx?
[11:51] <orbin> Ravengbc: then add a 'blacklist bcm43xx' line
[11:51] <ugarit> I'm trying to compile this code http://opensource.gsfc.nasa.gov/projects/GMSEC/GMSEC_OPENSOURCE_RELEASE%5B1%5D.tar.gz and I get the following error:     undefined reference to `__ctype_toupper', which package has that?
[11:51] <somatt> magnetron: xvid
[11:52] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: i dont know how its done via gparted.. but it think you can do it with fdisk.. bear with me a moment while i google
[11:52] <somatt> magnetron: xvid because divx is proprietary (apparently)
[11:52] <kirkunit> taigeR: well just uninstall it in synaptic, and it will remove the dependencies as well.
[11:52] <orbin> kipp1: find anything useful in the history?
[11:52] <arnold-0953> phoeni1: ok thanks, I am looking too
[11:52] <Pelo> ugarit,  you get this msg when you run  ./configure ?
[11:52] <Ravengbc> Orbin, after that do i need to do a restart?
[11:52] <coolgeek> could some one also tell me the command to view all init services running?
[11:52] <coolgeek> not netstat
[11:52] <kipp1> orbin: is there a log of the history?
[11:52] <taigeR> kirkunit, does it actually remove the dependencies, because when i select it for uninstall, it only shows Amarok
[11:52] <petrik> How do I find out what my drives are?
[11:53] <Pelo> petrik,  gparted will let you view them easily
[11:53] <coolgeek> or or ps -aux
[11:53] <orbin> Ravengbc: that will prevent it from loading at boot.  you can unload it now and try ndiswrapper again
[11:53] <coolgeek> one for the actual services
[11:53] <aska1> Can someone help me make my 3ddesktop work? My wobbly windows work..
[11:53] <orbin> Ravengbc: sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[11:53] <ugarit> Pelo: there is no configure with this code!
[11:53] <MajorApus> can someone help me enable digital output on my sound card
[11:53] <siimo> hi... im a noob who's been using xfce for a while cause gnome used too much memory .. has this improved in 2.18? how much memory do i need to use it along with other programs
[11:53] <ugarit> Pelo: it's when I issue the make command
[11:53] <Pelo> ugarit,  have you ever compiled from source before ?
[11:54] <kirkunit> taigeR: right click on Amarok, then mark for complete removal
[11:54] <coolgeek> jrib: do you know the command to view all init services running?
[11:54] <Ravengbc> Orbin, ok. thanks. i just did the -r. do i need to redo anything with ndiswrapper before i restart?
[11:54] <orbin> kipp1: yes, in ~/.bash_history ... didn't you see my last post to you?
[11:54] <Pelo> aska1,  ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <ugarit> Pelo: yes
[11:54] <jrib> coolgeek: hmm, i don't know of one
[11:54] <taigeR> kirkunit, i did that, it only selects Amarok
[11:54] <orbin> Ravengbc: you might not even need to restart, just try reloading ndiswrapper
[11:54] <kaje> I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on to a system and it didn't detect the right video card (it's a dual monitor card)... what tool do I run to choose the right video card?
[11:54] <orbin> Ravengbc: modprobe -r ndiswrapper, then modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:54] <coolgeek> jrib: with fedora there is a command "services telnet on/off"
[11:54] <orbin> Ravengbc: sudo in front of those.
[11:55] <coolgeek> jrib: is there no similar command?
[11:55] <Pelo> ugarit,  ok   I can't realy tell what your problem is from here  ,  looking in the tr.gz unpacked folder for a readme or install file
[11:55] <kipp1> got it!!!
[11:55] <magnetron> somatt: install package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:55] <jrib> coolgeek: you can use invoke-rc.d to start and stop them, but no status
[11:55] <kipp1> thank you!!
[11:55] <SurfnKid> anyone heard of the package xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[11:55] <orbin> kipp1: yw
[11:55] <deCon> I have some CPU questions
[11:55] <deCon> anyone?
[11:55] <fnord123> hi all. I noticed that sunbird isn't in fawn's package list, like thunderbird and firefox are. I was wondering if anyone knew if this was impending or if there was a better alternative that I can administrate through apt-get/synaptic
[11:55] <SurfnKid> there's a thread with this on there, but when i try to install it, it doesnt find it
[11:55] <MindOfChaos> deCon like what?
[11:55] <Tr0gd0r> what does "add non-free to your repository" mean?
[11:55] <magnetron> and this one: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:55] <magnetron> somatt, and this one: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:55] <jrib> coolgeek: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start  is the same as: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:55] <ugarit> Pelo: thanks
[11:55] <taigeR> kirkunit, actually it only selects amarok-xine
[11:56] <deCon> MindOfChaos, like i just switched to generic kernel from the 386 in feisty, it now recognizes both of my CPUs from my amd dual-core, but it seems to run slower
[11:56] <Ravengbc> Orbin, thanks. i'll play around with it some more. but i gotta go for now.
[11:56] <Pelo> Tr0gd0r,  means that the package you are trying to install or the repos are for packages that are not open-source
[11:56] <coolgeek> jrib: sorry to ask so many questions but im a little confused is synaptic the same as apt
[11:56] <deCon> MindOfChaos, furthermore, things are spiking my cpu usage quite often.
[11:56] <dreamcastjack> does Linux have any problems using SATA drives.
[11:56] <dreamcastjack> ?
[11:56] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: see it that helps. its step by step.. unfortunately this is fdisk based.  i used to do the same thing with qt parted.. via system rescue cd all the time..
[11:57] <deCon> MindOfChaos, and it seems slower.
[11:57] <jrib> coolgeek: yep, synaptic is just a gui frontend for apt
[11:57] <Tr0gd0r> what is a non-free repo i can add?
[11:57] <phoeni1> http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[11:57] <MindOfChaos> oh
[11:57] <petrik> Let me rephrase.. How can I found out what my CD/DVD drives are?
[11:57] <MindOfChaos> I do not have this problem
[11:57] <eck> dreamcastjack: linuxhas full sata support
[11:57] <Pelo> dreamcastjack,  I don'T have any problems and I have a sata drive
[11:57] <coolgeek> jrib: but the apt command doesnt work
[11:57] <jrib> coolgeek: what apt command did you try?
[11:57] <phoeni1> arnold-0953: http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[11:57] <dreamcastjack> okay thanks guys, thats what I needed to know.
[11:57] <deCon> MindOfChaos, also, i restarted once and restarted GNOME, and it kind of got better, but still crap. The widgets sketched out upon second boot up, so i restarted. ..and i'm using beryl
[11:57] <coolgeek> sudo apt install ssh-server
[11:57] <mad_goldfish> gah. Remind me not to upgrade again without getting a new network device :-( The belkin usb wlan I've got is rather problematic :-( Is there any way to ensure future upgrades don't break the driver?
[11:57] <fsdfsdffgd> huu! anyone knows how i can see the running processes? like alt&strg&del in windows? :O
[11:57] <dreamcastjack> building a New PC and want to use SATA drive instead of EIDE
[11:57] <MindOfChaos> 7.04 reconises both my cores out of the box
[11:57] <arnold-0953> phoeni1: thanks
[11:58] <coolgeek> jrib: sudo apt install ssh-server
[11:58] <dreamcastjack> SATA much faster?
[11:58] <taigeR> How to completely remove a program with it's dependencies?
[11:58] <barbarella_me> deCon:run the 64 bits version of ubuntu.
[11:58] <magnetron> coolgeek: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:58] <jrib> coolgeek: sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:58] <eck> fsdfsdffgd: system > administration > system monitor
[11:58] <deCon> barbarella_me, i've heard thats all kinds of buggy and no use without the software
[11:58] <fsdfsdffgd> thanks !
[11:58] <coolgeek> jrib: its the server i want
[11:58] <SJrX> Is there a way to configure apt to download packages concurrently. It only seems to be downloading them one by one.
[11:58] <jrib> coolgeek: ssh depends on the server and the client
[11:58] <topgun553> Would anyone be interested in reading my paper comaring the xbox 360/ps3/nintendo wii and give me suggestions???
[11:58] <jrib> coolgeek: either command (mine or magnetron ) will get you what you want
[11:59] <coolgeek> jrib: so if i have the client installed i have the server installed? no !
[11:59] <JD|work> how do I set the time in Ubuntu?
[11:59] <barbarella_me> deCon:not so buggy what you have now
[11:59] <Panzer_> SJrX: is there a apt-get conf file?
[11:59] <JD|work> it's a couple minutes off
[11:59] <JD|work> oh, nm
[11:59] <chairmeleon> hey :)
[11:59] <JD|work> got it
[11:59] <velko> taigeR, if you have installed this program with aptitude (instead of apt-get or synaptic) the dependencies will be removed automatically. if you have installed the program with some of these tools you have to remove them by yourself
[11:59] <SJrX> I assume so Panzer_
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[11:59] <jrib> coolgeek: the "ssh" package just depends on both openssh-client and openssh-server so you get both
[11:59] <konrad> Hi, I have a problem with nvidia driver, the simply doen't work
[11:59] <chairmeleon> does anyone know if Intel Wireless/PRO 2200BG should work out of the box?
[12:00] <kevinh90> konrad, you may have to alter you xorg.conf
[12:00] <eck> chairmeleon: it does
[12:00] <deCon> barbarella_me, i have feisty under generic currently, but just used this hoping it is better for my dual core
[12:00] <eck> or ought to rather
[12:00] <coolgeek> jrib: can you give me the command again please
[12:00] <orbin> topgun553: #ubuntu-offtopic may get you someone
[12:00] <variant> coolgeek: yes, out of the box
[12:00] <jrib> coolgeek: sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:00] <chairmeleon> eck: strangely enough, it won't detect my wireless
[12:00] <aska1> My 3ddesktop is much slower in defaultcompiz than it was in edgy with beryl..why?
[12:00] <magnetron> !doesn't work | konrad
[12:00] <taigeR> velko, what's aptitude?
[12:00] <ubotu> konrad: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:00] <deCon> it doesn't show any reason to be using the CPU amounts that it is....WHY?
[12:00] <eck> chairmeleon: check thatyou have the driver loaded (lsmod | grewp ipw)
[12:00] <velko> taigeR, if you don't know which packages constitute the dependencies you can look them up with "apt-cache show PKGNAME | grep depends"
[12:01] <topgun553> orbin, thanks for the advice... you wouldn't happen to know why I can't see the userlist on the right of xchat would you?
[12:01] <konrad> kevinh90: I know what to do, but logs says that "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
[12:01] <tbuss> I've setup proftpd using the following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=429783#post429783530 When I set the user account and password with system->administration->user and groups. it doesn't seem to keep the password? If I go back to check the password, the entry s different than what I entered
[12:01] <chairmeleon> eck: right, brb
[12:01] <konrad> magnetron: be cool, I just started ;P
[12:01] <coolgeek> jrib: ok i will try and be back! thanks for your help guys! !