=== willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] === Grape_Juice [n=pants@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === Demon012 [n=alan@82-46-76-235.cable.ubr05.stav.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-153-182.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.1.32] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@96.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.246] has joined #edubuntu === merriam_ is now known as merriam === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Toyito [n=IceChat7@sv-cpe-dynamic-209-124-98-252.amnetsal.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:35] Hi there [05:39] hey could you help me pls [05:40] you hare to ask a question before people knwo that [05:41] ok i have installed Edubuntu Feisty, a fresh install, i have system sound in the server and clients....but when i visit a flash site i don have sound in terminals [05:41] can u help me to fix it? [05:42] /i/ cant, havent used ltsp on feisty [05:45] ok thanks === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === th1a_ [n=hoffman@pool-72-87-80-48.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Bhaskar1 [n=Bhaskar1@202.79.37.177] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-31-82-252-240-67.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ is now known as Burgundavia [09:03] Burgundavia: you confirmed for UDS ? [09:03] RichEd: yep [09:03] great ... will be good to meet you in the flesh [09:09] excellent... === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === irc [n=richard@dsl-240-10-213.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:30] RichEd: schedule up? [09:35] LaserJock: busy with it now ... will have draft on the wiki in approx 2-3 hours === irc is now known as RichEd [09:35] cool [09:41] hey LaserJock [09:41] why are you still awake? :) === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [09:51] ajmitch: well, I've got too much to do to go to bed [09:52] gotta write up open week stuff for tomorrow [09:52] do some data analysis for some rockin' cool data I got this evening [09:52] etc. [09:53] ah fun === jinty [n=jinty@96.Red-83-49-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] unfortunately it's 1:00am before I can get to anything :/ === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-153-182.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-31-82-252-222-195.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-a34c1ec65c889081] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@84.78.183.65] has joined #edubuntu === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-153-182.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@82-46-136-83.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [11:21] Burgwork: you there ? === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-d240aaafbdbce0b9] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-173-18.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away [n=mantha@adsl-75-15-192-186.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-153-182.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [12:16] ping ogra [12:16] pong === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [12:16] ogra: are you up to answering a quick moodle question in #edulinux for [12:17] and also, we have confirmation of a top moodle developer for UES ... Petr Skoda [12:17] yay === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [12:36] ok [12:38] ogra, willvdl : 43 people confirmed for UES [12:38] woah [12:38] thats not bad [12:38] sweet [12:38] the edubuntu kickoff meeting we had in london were 15 ppl or so [12:38] i'll update the attendee list when I have finished the first draft of the schedule ... [12:38] some nice attendees across quite a spread of interest and background [12:39] good news indeed [12:39] hey guys [12:39] I'm being thick here [12:39] I have a usb hdd [12:39] /dev/sda [12:39] I just created a partition on it with gnome patirion manager [12:39] so i have /dev/sda1 [12:40] i unplug and plug in and it automounts it [12:40] but I can't write to it [12:40] even though it's mounted as rw [12:40] how can i mount this partition so a "normal" user can write to it [12:40] and it has a dos filesystem? [12:42] RichEd, good numbers. [12:43] no [12:43] ext3 [12:43] i just created i [12:43] Kamping_Kaiser: and a nice spread ... I am glad now that I did not promote it harder than we did ... 40-45 is manageable for this event, and then we can aim for a kick-ass event in 6 months time. [12:43] cool === ajmitch would have loved to get to UES === cbx33 too [12:44] ajmitch, mm. [12:44] ajmitch & cbx33 : now that I have been through the process, we'll sort out arrangements a lot earlier with more warning for the next event. [12:44] RichEd, heh. well done on the promotions front too then ;) [12:44] I suspect that UDS will be more worthwhile for me at this point [12:45] since I'm pretty much just focused on development [12:45] cliebow: what can i do about it [12:46] cbx33: it's using the normal permissions [12:47] so making it writable for anyone to create directories in would be a good help [12:47] who would i do that? [12:47] how? [12:48] chmod ? [12:48] hmm [12:48] ok [12:48] I'll try [12:48] the dir that I mounted to was created by a standard user [12:48] what do i chmod? [12:49] i am not so bright..but if i mount with sudo only root can write [12:49] but the root inode on the device probably isn't writable === ajmitch did have a usb stick with ext2 on it around here somewhere === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #edubuntu [12:49] ajmitch: i see [12:49] how do i make it so? [12:49] where is it mounted? === cliebow cliebow listens [12:50] a folder a user created [12:50] not helpful [12:50] /home/pete/win2000 [12:50] ls -lad /home/pete/win2000 [12:50] whilst mounted? [12:50] yes [12:50] ok hang on [12:51] oh no sorry...the auto mount mounted it to media/disk-1 [12:51] but yes ther erms are wrong [12:51] I'll chmod [12:51] right [12:51] then it should magically work [12:51] thanks [12:52] YAY [12:52] yAY [12:52] if i wanted to mauanlly mount and get the same effect [12:52] how would I do it? [12:54] it should work now when you manually mount [12:54] try it [01:02] Kamping_Kaiser: any predictions for the krikkit today ? [01:03] RichEd: don't talk about such things [01:03] RichEd, not an unbiased one :) === Kamping_Kaiser returns to hacking on recomendations for school IT upgrade stuff === cliebow cliebow looks to see what else can be cut from school === cliebow without totally destroying it === ogra imagines cliebow running through corridors with a big knife === Kamping_Kaiser hides under a desk [01:11] heh [01:11] oh, he said without totally destroying it ... [01:11] s/knife/scalpel/ [01:11] lol [01:12] we're in a place where the town valuation has quadrupled..so the state says we dont need any money..so just to keep status quo we have to ask for another 800000 from thic city of retirees [01:13] which is why pos cpus with 64 meg of ram are my terminals [01:14] morning ogra :) [01:15] hey [01:21] btw:Good Morning Edubuntu! [01:22] :) [01:22] afternoon [01:22] heh === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [01:28] hmm.. should get that fixed [01:28] hi highvoltage [01:28] hi RichEd [01:30] btw RichEd , can we have a topic oin -education ? perty please :) [01:30] Kamping_Kaiser: try to get there ... === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:36] hi === pauljw [n=paul@pool152.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:55] RichEd: My prediction - a tie :) === RichEd sings " tie me kangeroo down sport ... tie me kangeroo down" [01:56] ha! [01:57] lol [01:59] ajmitch: :( === bimberi is a big Stephen Fleming fan === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] === lguerra [n=c9ecf63e@acuario.unicauca.edu.co] has joined #edubuntu [02:36] quick wiki table help question ... how do I force a line in a table row ? [02:36] *a line break [02:37] [[BR] ] ? [02:37] okay ... will try that ... was using
and did not work === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-62-225-133.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:39] thanks :) works [02:39] was guessed :) [02:51] it's quote fussy, needs BR in caps, but does the job [02:51] *quite [02:54] do we have any rdektop edgy users around ? [02:54] *rdesktop === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] RichEd, dont know if your following the cricket... good luck for your team :) === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu === testingltsp [n=user@159.242.95.219.cbj02-home.tm.net.my] has joined #edubuntu [03:47] anybody tested LTSP5 in edubuntu? [03:48] thanks Kamping_Kaiser sane to you :) [03:48] ta :) [03:48] *same ... oops freudian slip [03:48] lol [03:48] anybody tested LTSP5 in edubuntu? [03:49] testingltsp: no need to ask every minute [03:49] wait a while, if someone has they might respond [03:49] hahaha [03:49] pl [03:49] ok [03:49] played too much maple story, learnt how to spamming message === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:53] I've installed ltsp5 with edubuntu, all my terminals boot up perfectly, but none of them allow me to login! [03:53] testingltsp, do you have sabayon installed? === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [03:56] kamping_kaiser, i tested sabayon before, I think that is the first version when it is supporting berly 3D desktop [03:57] testingltsp, if you have sabayon installed but users arnt in groups (whatever sabayon calls them) they cant log in [03:57] I don't mind using any distro to test out the latest LTSP 5, but seems that Ubuntu is most promising [03:58] kamping_kaiser, I'm using edubuntu 7.04 + LTSP 5 [03:58] yes, but do you have sabayon installed? [03:59] check. [03:59] now [03:59] i don't have sabayon now [04:00] ok [04:00] do you have any errors in ~/.xsession-errors from the user you were trying to log in as? [04:01] how to find that log? [04:01] at terminal side? [04:01] log in at the server console or ssh into the server [04:02] then look in /home/username/.xsession-errors (where username is the user you tried to log in using the terminal) [04:02] I've tried to use screen 2 by login using prompt [04:02] but still not manage to login [04:02] checking now [04:02] you wont be able to log into the thin clients unless you manually create a user the the chroot [04:03] ohh [04:03] how to create user using chroot? [04:03] it would be funky if somehow anyone in %admin could be added into the chroot as 'allow logins', but afaik it cant be done (yet) [04:03] Heay [04:03] Err Heya even :-) [04:03] you dont need a user in the chroot to login usign the gui [04:03] hey bddebian :) [04:03] Hello Kamping_Kaiser [04:03] :) [04:04] a little bit confuse.... [04:04] i didn't encounter this problem with the previous version [04:05] welcome to software ;) [04:05] hahah xD [04:06] hehe :\ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] highvoltage, sjoe, just got visa [04:27] willvdl: good :) [04:28] testingltsp, did you chaneg any IP data for any of your network cards after installation ? if so, run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and try logging in again [04:28] *change [04:29] willvdl: cool! [04:29] ogra, I've not changing anything & I did run that ltsp-update-sshkeys, still not working [04:30] willvdl: btw, I see we're sharing a room :) [04:31] ogra, is there will be something inside the file "ssh_known_hosts" after execution of ltsp-update-sshkeys? mine is blank [04:31] we are? [04:31] aha, the list on Claire's email [04:31] should read it I guess :) [04:31] testingltsp, under /opt/ltsp/i386/ ... yes [04:32] sob, my ssh_known_hosts is empty inside, I don't know what to do. [04:32] highvoltage, trust your visa is all under control...us getting them in at the same time and all :) [04:33] testingltsp, is your ssh server running ? [04:33] how to verify that? [04:33] ps ax|grep ssh [04:33] should return something .... else its not [04:33] 5138 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-s [04:33] is it running? [04:34] willvdl: I'm getting mine on Monday [04:34] ogra@edubuntu:~/devel/feisty-ltsp$ ps ax|grep ssh [04:35] 5155 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd [04:35] thats what you are looking for [04:35] sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start [04:35] hmm mine looks weird [04:35] ok [04:35] try that ^^^ [04:37] ogra, u r my time saver! [04:37] :) [04:38] i don't have SSH server installed! lmao, tot is auto installed if LTSP is selected! [04:38] oh, so thats no standard edubuntu install ... [04:38] yeah [04:39] you *could* run ltsp without ssh ... so its not a hard dependency ... [04:39] is a bit shock that they miss out this link in synaptic, lol [04:39] apt-cache show ltsp-server :) [04:39] it has Recommends: .... [04:39] I've tried ubuntu & edubuntu 7.04, same thing [04:42] cool!!!! first time log in through client, ogra, i love u [04:42] :) === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === mcsd [n=admin@64.90.240.38] has joined #edubuntu [05:42] !beryl [05:42] Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects === knix_ [n=knix@c-24-127-177-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402715.html === bimberi_ [n=dave@207.210.77.85] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [05:57] hmm, high profile bribery ? === ogra would take high profile bribes gratefully ... [05:59] what would you like to be bribed to do? [06:01] no idea ... for my existence ? [06:01] i dont have specific targets for stuff to work on for bribes .... :) [06:01] not yet ... but now that you say it .... :) === Riverman [n=Administ@199-0-81-196.setardsl.aw] has joined #edubuntu [06:04] hi room [06:06] LTSP: can not boot an old client without a PXE NIC, it uses a RTL 8139 chip (clone) [06:06] ideas? [06:08] Ri:how far do you get.. [06:09] ogra, perhaps LP needs a Bribery button. "Get this spec completed Xtra Fast!" (TM) [06:09] well, I went on rom o matic [06:10] haha [06:10] booted with dos, executed a com file, but got no dhcp, this i tried with a windows server though, because my linus server is not reaady yet [06:10] just to test the fake pxe boot [06:10] why do you boot with DOS ? [06:10] the rom-o-matic disks should be able to boot right away [06:12] well, i downloaded a tgz file to put on a floppy with rawwrite, but i got error [06:12] use rawrite to put a .zdsk onto a floppy [06:12] or.lzdsk..whatever [06:12] we had a very good howto once for creating rom o matic images... i wonder where its gone :/ === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.16] has joined #edubuntu [06:13] hmm i tried to find a howto.. but didnt get one === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [06:14] does Edubuntu ltsp server create bootdisks? [06:14] seems someone deleted it from the wiki [06:14] no [06:14] but its ready to boot eterboot right away [06:14] since the chipset is really well know (the rtl 8139) [06:14] so if you have your floppy working it should work out o the box [06:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPBootingClientsWithoutPxe [06:15] there we go [06:15] well hidden [06:15] seems the whole wiki front was rewritten [06:17] i added it to the help.ubuntu-com ltsp docs [06:18] hmmm === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:23] ok. I'm an idiot [06:25] later === nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #edubuntu === nalioth_ is now known as nalioth === bossie [n=hendrik@dsl-243-93-244.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@165.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #edubuntu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@165.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Monika|K [n=chatzill@dslb-084-056-238-111.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@84.78.183.65] has joined #edubuntu [08:04] ogra: a good session there [08:04] thanks [08:04] well, i need to go to do some tuxtype training i guess === joebaker [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:05] sadly you can only scratch the surface with this 1h limitation and so many questions === jinty [n=jinty@84.78.183.65] has joined #edubuntu [08:06] ogra: nice presentation. I have some experience using an http proxy filter solution using dansguardian and squid and clamav. Ubuntu packages exist which can provide this solution. A dns method makes auto configuration of the client doable using java script on a web server at http://wpad.localdomain/wpad.dat [08:07] we ship smoothwall on the addon CD atm [08:07] ogra: yeah, I didn't get to even ask any questions :) [08:08] i'll look into adding dansguariand or squidguard ... the prob with these is that they need updated balcklists every now and then [08:08] and dansguardian isnt freely distributable iirc [08:09] ogra. There is the license issue with Dan's guardian -- yes, although it is gpl to schools --- but that doesn't really work does it. -- Importantly though Dan's guardian does not _require_ updated blacklists to be effective. [08:10] well, its not GPL to distributors ... [08:10] thats the main prob for me :) [08:11] we have willowng, but development of that stalled somehow [08:11] ogra: Maybe you are familiar with dan's guardian's approach of monitoring the content of the pages for matching regular expressions which have values associated with them. A calculation is done, compared to acceptable value. [08:11] it was the most promising approach ... [08:11] joebaker, well, willowng simply uses a spam filter mechanism to match content ... [08:12] a bayesian one ... so it learns :) [08:12] Maybe dansguardian can become truely gpl in the future. I'll look into willowng. I've been studying Python, maybe I can help if it's written in Python. [08:13] it is [08:15] joebaker:you working with python-gtk [08:15] http://dansguardian.org/?page=copyright2 Since Edubuntu caters to mostly a non-commercial audience, there could be some benefit to using DansGuardian. Where I work, we own a commercial license to DansGuardian. [08:16] cliebow_ : I hope to. I'm reading "Python How to Program by Deitel" it's a 1300 page book. I'm on about page 300. === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [08:18] joebaker, we want to be able to provide edubuntu to everyone, even commecial people who want t use it as a base [08:18] ogra: I certianly agree. [08:18] hi ogra, sorry I missed your session [08:18] so such licensing wont work for shipment ... [08:19] LaserJock, well i missed yours too :P === maccam94 [n=cam@pool-72-72-84-37.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] ogra: I think that Ubuntu can buy a distributable license from DansGuardian that isn't too expensive... less than $5,000 if I recall. I used to build firewalls and support them so I considered buying it. Of course this might be problematic for derivative distributions. I should contact "Dan" and see if he would enjoy increased exposure by releasing the product fully under GPL. [08:23] joebaker: we have a content filter [08:24] plus, that license is not really legal [08:24] having trouble installing feisty on a "fakeraid" intel matrix in raid 0..feisty sees the two drives as ndependent drives..anyone have any thoughts? [08:24] gpl2 allows commericial use [08:24] joebaker, we would have paied for mp3 support if that were our philosophy [08:25] ogra, ++ [08:25] hey all [08:25] joebaker: Amaranth is the primary author of willowng [08:25] hey cbx33 [08:25] Hey Burgwork === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:25] think the chapter is done [08:25] hi cbx33 [08:25] hey ogra [08:25] cool [08:25] howz it going everyone [08:25] how do I change my keymap in bash? [08:26] cbx33:owdy! [08:26] ogra, you did a new ldm in C right? [08:26] hey cliebow [08:26] yes [08:26] Burgwork: Thanks, I'll note Amaranth authorship of willowng. [08:26] GTK baseD? [08:26] https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+branch/ltsp/ldm-greeter [08:26] yes [08:26] cool [08:26] can i run it as a standard thingy [08:26] i use it since two weeks :) [08:26] without it being a login manager [08:27] no [08:27] so it will be in gutsy? [08:27] I wanted to have a look at generating that clock plugin we talked about === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] [08:27] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ldm-improvements [08:28] joebaker: willowng works for basic content filtering [08:28] but it wont get any new gui stuff [08:28] its slow enough with the existing stuff === MrGreen [n=MrGreen@client-82-3-254-247.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] i thought you said it was faster in C [08:28] got a fresh install got a couple of questions? [08:29] woudl a cairo clock slow it down? [08:29] cairo clock is sweet [08:29] yes [08:29] cbx33, its faster and smaller because it doesnt use *any* deps than plain GTK [08:29] ahh ok [08:29] my keyboard is whack .. atm " is where @ should be ;-( [08:29] no cairo or anything to play with [08:29] i see [08:29] if i could do it in plain gtk? [08:30] only what gtk widgets pffer [08:30] mono [08:30] *offer [08:30] hmm [08:30] ogra your typing is fun to watch :) [08:30] heh [08:30] i would type three times faster if i wouldnt have to do corrections all the time :) [08:30] hehe [08:30] sometimes I wonder why we do corrections [08:31] but i'm german so this broken stuff bothers me :) [08:31] I'm not going to btoher in future [08:31] tads greht [08:31] unless someone asks ;~ [08:31] ah [08:31] or so :) [08:31] Das ist Gut Ja? [08:31] nien === dabaR_ [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-157-150.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:32] ogra, we're getting two new pigs on Friday [08:32] ;) [08:32] cool [08:32] ok non-english folks [08:32] the keyboard detection on my latest install of Ubuntu server failed [08:32] pur new one grows and grows [08:32] if I change the locale, will that fix it? [08:32] unlikely [08:32] ie: I got the wrong keymap [08:32] hehe [08:32] we're hoping to breed these two [08:32] ;) [08:33] have a little guinea pig farm [08:33] Burgwork, changing the keyboard settings will likely gain you more here :) [08:33] guinea pig babies are sooo cool [08:33] ogra: where is that stored? [08:33] console-tools or so [08:33] or console-setup [08:33] dpkg-reconfigure is your friend :) [08:33] you can change the keyboard in your xorg.conf [08:34] Option "XkbModel" "pc105" [08:34] Option "XkbLayout" "de" [08:34] that would be for a German keyboard [08:34] it puts the settings into /etc/default ... xorg reads from that on reofgure ... [08:34] *reconfigure [08:35] Monika|K, apart from the fact that you shouldnt edit xorg.conf manually :) [08:35] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the magic comand ;) [08:35] but there is no X on the box [08:35] one shouldn't? I have been advised to do it a lot and have changed mine [08:36] well, the tools we write usually operate as frontend to tools like dpkg-reconfigure ... i.e the new restricted manager [08:36] having trouble installing feisty on a "fakeraid" intel matrix in raid 0..feisty sees the two drives as ndependent drives..anyone have any thoughts? [08:36] if you change it manyually the debconf db wont match the content of the file anymore [08:37] cliebow, i think there was something in the ubuntu release notes about raid stuff [08:37] ok take another look [08:37] lie being extremely slow during partition creation [08:37] *like [08:40] ogra: are we going to talk about UES and UDS at the meeting today? [08:40] i think so [08:40] RichEd made some effort to get a schedule together [08:40] so i guess he wants to talk about it [08:41] i'm still not dont registering all my specs ... [08:41] actually i had a new idea today i need to wirte down as well [08:41] ogra, http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-journal-cairo-article/clock-ex3.c [08:41] doesn't that use the same libs [08:41] gtk.h that you did? [08:42] yes [08:42] but it does cairo? [08:42] but mine dosest make ldd load cairo into ram :P [08:42] i see [08:42] ok i get it now [08:42] if you dont call cairo it wont be loaded [08:43] yeh [08:43] ok [08:43]