[12:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 94458 in malone "bugs.launchpad.net/project and bugs.launchpad.net/project/+bugs are different and not obviously linked" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[12:18] <laszlok> i talked to kiko during the ubuntu open week session about why it takes the launchpad people so long to fix simple things like this
[12:18] <chowmeined> ah, thank you
[12:18] <kiko> laszlok, so about that bug. I'm thinking about it
[12:18] <kiko> a link runs the risk of being confusing -- don't you think?
[12:19] <kiko> what does "all bugs" mean?
[12:19] <chowmeined> I mean just as a Feisty user, not a developer, I found it a little confusing when I do report bugs every now and then 
[12:19] <laszlok> yeah when you first use launchpad its very confusing
[12:19] <laszlok> you have to remember all the little tricks
[12:20] <chowmeined> I "get lost" because I can't find a clear hierarchy or a way to list bugs for some project and then jump to the parent project and list all sub-projects for a project (like listing all the packages under ubuntu feisty)
[12:21] <laszlok> kiko: take a look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[12:21] <laszlok> its a very nice summary
[12:22] <laszlok> and on the right you have "2 bugs fixed elsewhere", "0 open CVE bugs", the "report bug" button and "ask a question" button
[12:22] <laszlok> right there should be a "Show All Bugs" button/link
[12:23] <laszlok> because you don't always want to search for something -- you may just want to browse
[12:23] <harrisony> its not as bad as bugzilla, now that thing confuses me
[12:25] <chowmeined> yes bugzilla confuses me too
[12:25] <chowmeined> would there be a way to add breadcrumbs for the projects hierarchy?
[12:25] <laszlok> chowmeined: aren't there accross the top
[12:25] <laszlok> can you give an example
[12:27] <chowmeined> i suppose
[12:27] <chowmeined> i just didnt notice
[03:20] <chuckf> kiko, are you here?
[03:32] <jml> someone just asked:  How do I turn off getting emails from launchpad for tickets just because I am on the team that owns them?
[03:32] <jml> is there a way to do this?
[04:13] <kiko> chuckf, yeah, but I'm a bit sleepy
[04:14] <kiko> jml, you can filter them to /dev/null? :)
[04:14] <jml> kiko: heh.
[04:15] <jml> kiko: well, for my part, there's only one ticket that I want to stop receiving emails for (bug 1). I have a filter in my MUA for that.
[04:15] <ubotu> Malone bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Julian Andres Klode (juliank)
[04:15] <kiko> solved!
[04:16] <chuckf> kiko, I just sent you an email on what we talked about earlier
[04:17] <jml> kiko: it's someone else's complaint. they presumably have more than one ticket they want to unsubscribe from
[04:17] <kiko> that's fine chuckf 
[04:17] <kiko> jml, yeah.. so far, no way to do it.
[04:17] <kiko> we're considering ignore subs.
[04:18] <jml> kiko: is there a ticket / spec I can tell my friend to subscribe to for progress updates ;)
[04:21] <kiko> jml, hmmm. there might be. I don't know of it -- matsubara would though.
[04:22] <jml> kiko: thanks.
[05:13] <poolie> hello kiko
[05:13] <jml> RAOF: good morning ;)
[05:13] <poolie> hopefully he's in bed now :)
[05:13] <poolie> anyone from Rosetta here?
[05:13] <RAOF> Mornin jml!
[05:13] <RAOF> How'd the talk thing go?
[05:13] <kiko> hey poolie 
[05:13] <kiko> I am asleep
[05:14] <poolie> i'm glad, sleep tight kiks
[05:14] <jml> RAOF: pretty well
[05:14] <RAOF> Excellent. 
[05:14] <jml> RAOF: people asked good questions, so that's a good sign.
[05:15] <RAOF> Indeed.
[05:15] <RAOF> Anything you couldn't answer? :)
[05:16] <jml> RAOF: yep!
[05:16] <RAOF> Annoying?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hi kiko, poolie, RAOF, jml 
[05:17] <RAOF> Hey Hobbsee
[05:17] <jml> RAOF: no, not at all. ddaa (who's been doing LP's code hosting for a lot longer than I) was there to field the ones I missed.
[05:17] <jml> Hobbsee: hi
[05:17] <poolie> hello Hobbsee
[05:17] <poolie> which talk was this?
[05:18] <jml> poolie: well, not 'talk'.
[05:18] <ajmitch> jml: I read through it, it seemed to go well
[05:18] <jml> poolie: the "Hosting Code with Launchpad and Bazaar" class for ubuntu open week
[05:20] <kiko> hey Hobbsee 
[05:20] <kiko> I am still asleep
[05:21] <Hobbsee> so i see :)
[05:21] <Hobbsee> you type well, for being asleep..
[05:22] <kiko> I am reviewing code in my sleep too
[05:22] <kiko> the raveonettes have a song called sleepwalking
[05:22] <kiko> which is amazing
[05:22] <kiko> so I am listening to it too
[05:25] <chuckf> you're just a do-stuff-while-sleeping person aren't ya?
[05:26] <chuckf> how much do you get done awake?
[06:34] <poolie> can i do a search of bugs for the literal string ".bzr.log"?
[06:34] <poolie> at the moment that seems to find anything that includes either word, which is not very helpful
[09:14] <fabbione> any LP admin around?
[09:31] <popey> I see we are being redirected to beta launchpad again now :)
[09:32] <popey> any chance we can get the feature where users who are not on the beta team can click on http://*beta*launchpad.. links and get redirected or at least a url on the +restricted-login page rather than being told they dont have access to the test site?
[09:32] <popey> because we know from experience that beta testers accidentally paste beta urls all over the place
[09:32] <LaserJock> yes, that's a known bug
[09:33] <popey> yeah, we spoke about it before the new launchpad was released
[09:36] <popey> just wanted to give someone a virtual "poke" about it given the beta urls are active again
[09:44] <carlos> morning
[10:05] <BjornT> popey: that issue is being worked on, so it shouldn't take too long before it's fixed.
[10:05] <popey> oh super stuff, thanks BjornT 
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #109880 in launchpad ""Browse Code" link for branch always returns internal server error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109880
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #109881 in launchpad "strange icon after setting package upstream link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109881
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #109886 in launchpad "initialise-from-parent does not copy upstream packaging links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109886
[11:29] <fabbione> any LP admin around?
[11:29] <fabbione> SteveA_: ?
[11:50] <zwnj> hi all
[11:51] <zwnj> would i get this problem fixed, when the status is "answered"?
[11:51] <zwnj> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/5394
[11:55] <schwuk> how long to .pot files take to be reviewed in rosetta?
[11:55] <schwuk> s/to/do/
[11:55] <carlos> zwnj: actually, I expect to see it solved once the status is 'Solved'
[11:55] <carlos> schwuk: it depends on our load. Right now we are a bit behind on that
[11:55] <carlos> schwuk: but if you tell me which entry are you interested on
[11:56] <carlos> I can do it right now for you (this speeds some tests I need to do to approve it)
[12:02] <pochu> does launchpad support trac for remote bugtrackers?
[12:05] <harrisony> pochu: it can handle trac but i dont know if you can use generic trac (as in http://mysite.com/trac/bug/1) i think it has to be one registered in launchpad
[12:07] <pochu> harrisony: do you know where can I register it?
[12:10] <harrisony> pochu: what bug tracker is it
[12:10] <pochu> http://www.listen-project.org/
[12:10] <pochu> harrisony: it's for lp.net/listen and lp.net/ubuntu/+source/listen
[12:10] <pochu> I'm not the contact for lp/listen, though
[12:10] <zwnj> carlos: the status is Answered, not Solved.
[12:10] <carlos> zwnj: that's just because someone told you to come here and ask
[12:10] <carlos> which is wrong
[12:10] <harrisony> you could poke some of the LP admins or try file a big request on malone
[12:10] <zwnj> yep
[12:10] <carlos> just wait for an admin to process your request
[12:12] <pochu> harrisony: found it :)
[12:12] <pochu> https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers
[12:12] <harrisony> Ahhh! didnt know that :P
[12:16] <carlos> pochu: please file a bug if that was too hidden explaining where do you expect to find it
[12:16] <harrisony> were did you find it (/me wants to know were all the secret stuff is :P)
[12:16] <harrisony> well its not secret but.. heh
[12:18] <pochu> I found it in google :p
[12:18] <pochu> but now I've found the link inside LP, which is where it should be
[12:18] <pochu> https://beta.launchpad.net/bugs
[12:18] <pochu> https://launchpad.net/bugs
[12:18] <pochu> in the bottom of that page
[12:19] <harrisony> pochu: hehe dont worry im a beta tester :P
[12:19] <harrisony> beta FTW!
[12:19] <pochu> carlos: so no need for a bug report :)
[12:19] <schwuk> carlos: sorry got sidetracked
[12:19] <schwuk> carlos: the file is messages.pot in WebDev Control Panel Series: trunk
[12:19] <carlos> pochu: cool
[12:19] <carlos> schwuk: are you one of its developers?
[12:20] <schwuk> carlos: at the moment, *the* developer
[12:20] <carlos> ok ;-)
[12:21] <carlos> schwuk: what gettext translation domain are you using for it?
[12:21] <carlos> the file's name is messages.pot so I guess is something else...
[12:21] <schwuk> it should be wdcp
[12:22] <carlos> ok
[12:22] <carlos> thanks
[12:22] <pochu> hmm, should I be a project admin to link it to a remote bugtracker?
[12:22] <pochu> I can't find the way to do that
[12:22] <pochu> and the bugtracker says: You can link a registered bug tracker with a registered project in Launchpad:
[12:22] <harrisony> pochu: um...you should have to be
[12:23] <pochu> but I'm not :/
[12:23] <carlos> schwuk: it's approved now. The problem is that we are importing OO.org right now and the queue is a bit busy so it would take a while until it's finally imported (we are working on fixing that so we give each project its own import queue)
[12:23] <schwuk> thanks carlos
[12:24] <carlos> np
[12:24] <harrisony> i mean shouldnt
[12:24] <pochu> oh :)
[12:24] <pochu> harrisony: but it seems that's the way it works now
[12:24] <pochu> harrisony: you can file a bug ;)
[12:25] <pochu> hmm, so then should I contact the project admin? Or can an admin do that for me?
[12:25] <harrisony> which bug is it on launchpad and on trac ill have ago
[12:27] <pochu> https://beta.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/listen and https://beta.launchpad.net/listen/
[12:27] <harrisony> ok so let me just double check this you want too...
[12:28] <pochu> :)
[12:28] <harrisony> you want to smile.. Well that you can do :P
[12:29] <BjornT> pochu: yes, should contact the project admin. but you could talk with an lp admin, if the project admin doesn't respond.
[12:30] <harrisony> BjornT is cool! :D
[12:33] <harrisony> pochu: it should be working
[12:34] <pochu> BjornT: ok, gonna try :)
[12:34] <pochu> I'll let you know if doesn't answer :)
[12:34] <pochu> harrisony: thanks!
[12:38] <Elwell> ok - I have just found a reproducible bug in OOo / Feisty - do I report that at launchpad these days?
[12:41] <pochu> Elwell: yep
[12:41] <radix> you probably want to start at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[12:42] <pochu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+filebug <--- Elwell 
[01:43] <mdz> cprov: native source syncing!
[01:44] <cprov> mdz: well, it works ! However it's blocked by a bug in nascentupload-cataclysm
[01:45] <mdz> oh
[01:45] <mdz> let me know when it is time to be excited :-)
[01:45] <cprov> mdz: it should be entirely available in 4 hours (I desperately need a reviewer ;))
[01:46] <mdz> cprov: does this include syncing of binaries or is that a separate piece of work?
[01:47] <cprov> mdz: stage-one is already able to copy sources and optionally their binaries between suites
[01:47] <mdz> cprov: including pockets?
[01:47] <mdz> so we can do -security -> -updates?
[01:47] <cprov> mdz: we are missing only replacements for backport-source & sync-source (stage-two and three, respectively) 
[01:48] <cprov> mdz:  yup, suite = distrorelease + pocket.
[01:49] <cprov> mdz: yes, -security -> -updates is working too
[01:50] <mdz> cprov: that is excellent news, thank you
[01:50] <cprov> mdz: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel, was copied yesterday with its binaries from PROPOSED to UPDATES
[01:50] <cprov> mdz: not yet, I have to fix the *cataclysm* bug 
[01:59] <Elwell> pochu: ta. I'm not alone. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/98664
[01:59] <ubotu> Malone bug 98664 in openoffice.org "(Feisty) Crash after full screen presentation of any pps file (dup-of: 90513)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[01:59] <ubotu> Malone bug 90513 in openoffice.org "weird document recovery attempt of openoffice after fullscreen slideshow with oo presentation" [High,Confirmed]  
[02:00] <pochu> Elwell: yeah, I also have this bug
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109948 in launchpad "Codebrowse web-ui should generate OOPS messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109948
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #109953 in soyuz "NascentUpload-Cataclysm performs wrong checks in uploaded binary versions" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109953
[03:49] <sinzu1> flacoste: ping
[03:50] <flacoste> sinzu1: pong
[03:51] <sinzui> have you read the #107810 comments?
[03:54] <flacoste> sinzui: yes
[03:55] <flacoste> i still want to reply to mpt's last comment
[03:57] <sinzui> flacoste: I eagerly await your reply.
[04:02] <BjornT> time this week's non-au reviewer meeting
[04:02] <BjornT> == Agenda ==
[04:02] <BjornT> * Roll call * Next meeting * Queue status. * Other Business
[04:02] <BjornT> who's here?
[04:02] <salgado> me
[04:03] <flacoste> me
[04:04] <BjornT> == Next meeting ==
[04:04] <BjornT> next meeting will be 2007-05-02 at 1400 UTC
[04:05] <BjornT> == Queue status ==
[04:05] <BjornT> There are 12 open reviews, 5 over the 2 day service target.
[04:05] <statik> me
[04:06] <BjornT> kiko, SteveA_, salgado, and spiv all have branches older than 2 days.
[04:06] <salgado> I just started reviewing mine
[04:07] <BjornT> cool.
[04:08] <flacoste> kiko actually review the branch
[04:08] <flacoste> he just didn't update the status i think
[04:08] <flacoste> Thre was a 'REview: package-syncs' thread on launchpad-reviews
[04:08] <BjornT> oh, that's even better. thanks flacoste.
[04:09] <BjornT> SteveA_: please review your branches soon. mpt's one is only text change, which should be quick to review.
[04:09] <salgado> BjornT, SteveA_ is on holiday, I think
[04:09] <flacoste> he is, until tomorrow
[04:09] <flacoste> iirc
[04:10] <BjornT> well, he might get that message anyway.
[04:10] <BjornT> == Other business ==
[04:10] <flacoste> there was a [fasttrack]  item last week
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #109966 in launchpad-answers "Oops rejecting an already rejected question" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109966
[04:11] <BjornT> related to what salgado said, please make sure to add a note if you're unavailable for reviews, e.g. if you're on holiday.
[04:11] <BjornT> even if you're away only one day you should add a note.
[04:12] <flacoste> that item was postponed because it had your name tacked to it but you were sick
[04:13] <BjornT> flacoste: that item has been moved to a mailing list discussion about urgent review requests.
[04:13] <flacoste> ok
[04:13] <BjornT> i should do a better job at keeping the agenda up to date :)
[04:14] <BjornT> another thing from the monday meeting is that spiv has agreed to coach thumper.
[04:15] <BjornT> the new reviewers should expect a welcome e-mail from lifeless 
[04:15] <flacoste> cool
[04:15] <BjornT> that's it from me. anything else?
[04:16] <BjornT> cool, meeting ended. thanks for coming.
[04:16] <flacoste> thx BjornT
[04:17] <salgado> thanks BjornT 
[04:42] <schwuk> carlos: ping
[04:42] <carlos> schwuk: pong
[04:43] <schwuk> carlos: thanks for pushing that pot file through, but it seems rosetta didn't find any strings to translate...
[04:43] <schwuk> https://translations.beta.launchpad.net/wdcp/trunk/+pots/wdcp
[04:44] <carlos> schwuk: that's just because it's not yet imported
[04:44] <carlos> as I said, the import queue is quite busy right now
[04:44] <schwuk> My bad - I assumed nothing would show up until it was imported...
[04:44] <carlos> we plan to hide the templates until are actually imported to prevent this kind of confusion
[04:45] <carlos> schwuk: well, our fault, we should do it that way
[05:50] <Adri2000> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/109982 - in the activity log, I can't see who marked this bug as security and private :/
[05:52] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: i'd say the OP did...
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: cant see what's needed to be private about that though
[05:53] <Hobbsee> may be a "tag as security and private to get more attentoin" type thing
[05:54] <Adri2000> probably
[05:54] <Adri2000> Hobbsee: OP = ?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> original poster
[05:55] <Adri2000> ok
[05:55] <Hobbsee> and it's in the wrong place, too - but fi i move it, i wont be able to read it
[05:55] <Hobbsee> can you read it?
[05:57] <Adri2000> Hobbsee: why wrong place?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: it's under kdelibs, nto ktorrent
[05:58] <Adri2000> ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/kdeinit
[05:58] <Hobbsee> #6 0xb7e80b9b in dht::ParseRsp () from /usr/lib/libktorrent-2.1.so
[05:59] <Hobbsee> #7 0xb7e80dc2 in dht::MakeRPCMsg () from /usr/lib/libktorrent-2.1.so
[05:59] <Hobbsee> #8 0xb7e75f21 in dht::RPCServer::readPacket ()
[05:59] <Hobbsee>    from /usr/lib/libktorrent-2.1.so
[05:59] <Hobbsee> #9 0xb7e76222 in dht::RPCServer::qt_invoke ()
[05:59] <Hobbsee>    from /usr/lib/libktorrent-2.1.so
[05:59] <Hobbsee> #10 0xb6eba88b in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
[05:59] <Hobbsee> the top of that would suggest ktorrent, assuming i can read backtraces vaguley
[06:01] <Adri2000> Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/109982/+secrecy
[06:01] <Hobbsee> oh, found ti
[06:01] <matsubara> Hobbsee: actions menus -> security/visibility
[06:02] <matsubara> Hobbsee: ask bdmurray
[06:03] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ping?
[06:04] <matsubara> Hobbsee: but I guess, #ubuntu-bugs is likely to have more people that can help
[06:05] <Hobbsee> matsubara: i'm one of -qa and the bugsquad.  but true
[06:05] <Hobbsee> i'm more asking "is there some really important protocol that i dont know about, about un-security, and making public, of bugs?"
[06:06] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: here
[06:06] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: cool.  do you mind reading the backscroll?
[06:07] <bdmurray> read most of it, that bug is odd
[06:08] <bdmurray> maybe they marked it as private because they were downloading a torrent that didn't want exposed?
[06:09] <Hobbsee> who knows - i cant even find it, though...
[06:09] <Hobbsee> that's the only bug he's filed
[06:10] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: Is there something you think we should do to the bug?
[06:10] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: un security it, and mark it as public
[06:10] <Hobbsee> and put it into ktorrent, not kdelibs
[06:12] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: did most of that, I left it private until we hear back from the reporter
[06:17] <pochu> harrisony, carlos: re - listen remote bugtracker: the listen lead developer has answered to my mail and has linked the project to the bug tracker :-)
[06:17] <pochu> thanks again!
[06:18] <harrisony> pochu: glad it worked :D
[08:56] <popey> flacoste: you about?
[08:56] <flacoste> popey: i am here
[08:56] <popey> groovy --> prv
[09:46] <habeeb> Greetings, I created an account in launchpad some months ago, and today (after some OW sessions), I visited my account again, but it seems like I'm stuck with my email adress. Is tehre a way to change my username to something other than my email adress?
[09:48] <ddaa> habeeb: click "change details" on your account's page
[09:58] <habeeb> oh thank you, ddaa 
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #110052 in launchpad "Status of "upstream: Fix Released" and "distro: unconfirmed" are inconsistent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110052
[10:27] <habeeb> for some reason I can't import my PGP key in launchpad... I get this error: "Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key." and when I try gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys or gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys I get no output.
[11:09] <LaserJock> I don't see a place to "sign up" for a meeting anymore? was that taken away?
[11:11] <kiko> matsubara, can you check for LaserJock?
[11:11] <kiko> that would be a 1.0 regression
[11:11] <LaserJock> I don't see a list of attendees or anything like before
[11:14] <matsubara> LaserJock: https://beta.launchpad.net/sprints/ubucon-sevilla
[11:14] <matsubara> there's a register yourself link there.
[11:14] <LaserJock> there isn't one for UES and UDS though
[11:15] <LaserJock> those where the 2 I looked at
[11:15] <LaserJock> but yeah, ubucon has it
[11:15] <matsubara> sorry, I meant https://beta.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-sevilla
[11:16] <LaserJock> ok, I see it now
[11:16] <LaserJock> I got in via blueprints
[11:16] <LaserJock> https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/sprints/ues-sevilla-2007
[11:17] <LaserJock> I clicked on the heading
[11:17] <matsubara> I agree that the sprints page isn't very discoverable.
[11:17] <LaserJock> which I expected would take me to the main sprint page
[11:17] <LaserJock> but it didn't
[11:18] <LaserJock> ah, I needed to hit the "Overview" tab
[11:19] <matsubara> that's right. You think that the green location bar should take you to the overview?
[11:19] <LaserJock> yeah
[11:19] <LaserJock> it has Home -> Meetings -> <sprint>
[11:19] <LaserJock> not Home -> Blueprints -> <sprint>
[11:20] <LaserJock> does that make sense?
[11:22] <matsubara> LaserJock: yes. would you mind to file a bug?
[11:22] <LaserJock> no problemo
[11:24] <LaserJock> matsubara: what do you call the top green bar?
[11:26] <matsubara> I think green location bar is fine :-) We used to call it breadcrumbs but it makes no sense using term since people reporting similar bugs will never use that term.
[11:26] <LaserJock> that's what I was going to call it, but I've heard the term before
[11:33] <poolie> i like the subject of question #5637
[11:33] <poolie> "Will there be a change?" :-) sounds so plaintive
[11:37] <LaserJock> matsubara: bug #110094
[11:37] <ubotu> Malone bug 110094 in launchpad "breadcrumb confusing with meeting specs and meeting overview" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110094
[11:39] <matsubara> LaserJock: thanks
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #110094 in launchpad "breadcrumb confusing with meeting specs and meeting overview" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110094