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If we get lucky the trademark holder will let it be called Nvu again. === Demon012 [n=alan@82-46-76-235.cable.ubr05.stav.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:26] tonyyarusso: Cool! [01:27] shawarma: For now there's a version 0.7.7 available as a tarball install from kompozer.net, and I have an i386 .deb only laying around. [01:27] tonyyarusso: You can also just package a VCS snapshot. [01:28] yeah [01:28] tonyyarusso: That way you don't have to wait for them to do a release. [01:29] heh, he needs me poking him for the release anyway [01:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/New may have info === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml_ [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jtt [n=jtholmes@72-12-50-39.wan.networktel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === qiyong [n=qiyong@fc-cn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Danamania [n=Snak@074.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === siti [n=siti@clix-jaquesmartin-nz.cpe.clix.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508db26c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === popey_ [n=alan@bishop.popey.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.149.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [n=koke@dsl093-079-130.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] bug 109804 [03:09] Malone bug 109804 in Ubuntu "Firefox can't save image from interfacelift.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109804 === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-40a8c8916e6f6c04] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerbero_ [n=jga@p213.54.190.228.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-795e13c4fc7525a9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stratus [n=stratus@201.53.55.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubiq [n=ubiq@116.21.115.88] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as gmanAFK === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FOUR-FIFTY-SIX.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thames [i=9808f4bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-12d5c9b1ea6f0668] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-180.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottLij [n=ScottLij@66-227-218-192.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FordCortina [n=frank@AC8F80FB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:38] #107776 [05:38] bug 107776 [05:38] Malone bug 107776 in samba "during edgy->feisty update installation of samba_3.0.24-2ubuntu1 made the upgrade fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107776 [05:44] jmg: it's a bug. and? [05:44] im trying to fix it [05:45] ah [05:45] it looks to be a dupe of the other [05:45] yeah [05:48] tis a dupe, but no patch === jtt [n=jtholmes@72-12-50-39.wan.networktel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:51] BenC: why does commit http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-feisty.git;a=commit;h=c25cfc3ad3cb8cac3474febfe66cff8ee0bfba18 [05:51] BenC: why does that commit revert TIFM from 0.8 to 0.7? [05:51] I suppose that is an accident? === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === null__ [n=null@60-241-43-186.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === psusi [n=chatzill@user-0c6s9ib.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stdin [n=tez@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] imbrandon: ping === jtt [n=jtholmes@72-12-50-39.wan.networktel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === leleobhz [n=leleobhz@unaffiliated/leleobhz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:30] someone uses cowbuilder here? [06:31] or cowbuilder or pbuilder [06:37] morning === sonictwin [n=ryan@c-68-61-98-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yasumoto [n=Yasumoto@trailers66.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ion_ [i=ion@heh.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] hi [06:50] can anyone lookat this error? [06:50] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17541/plain/ [06:50] my brother restarted the comp while upgrading to feisty [06:50] !support [06:50] support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [06:51] try in there [06:51] k === sonictwin [n=ryan@c-68-61-98-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Yasumoto_ [n=Yasumoto@labs230.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-084-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] hm, tzdata seems to make debootstrap unhappy === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yondie [i=cb50140c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-e5d23cd3aa0b71ee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:44] hello guys: is it possible to include https proxy inside synaptic ? [07:47] yondie: yep under preferences [07:48] harrisony: dat`s the global setting rite? [07:52] yondie: thereare the global gnome/kde settings but i dont know if they go through that === dholbach [n=daniel@chello080109078174.4.15.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:53] good morning [07:54] hi dholbach [07:54] heya Hobbsee === Hobbsee stomps on Mithrandir's toes [07:54] (in greeting) [07:55] lovely morning, Sarah. :-P [07:55] Mithrandir: indeed! without the assignments :P [07:56] yay. :-) [07:56] IRC::People.find_by_channel('#ubuntu-devel').each {|p| greet p } [07:56] as in, it woudl be a lovely morning without the assignments. unfortunately, they havent magically disappeared :( [07:57] oh [07:57] hi ion_ [07:58] Whats up? [07:58] yesterday, I participated in some user testing of new electronic tax forms here in .no. Some of the forms were just magic forms which did themselves with all the right numbers. Unfortunately, the developers said that was only in the mockup. [07:58] Mithrandir: any good at electronics? :P [07:58] Mithrandir: haha, nice [07:58] Hobbsee: I have about half a semester of it, but it's been a couple of years since last I really did anything with it. [07:59] damn [08:00] but what is it you're looking at? [08:00] steady state sinosoidal analysis, yada yada yada.... [08:01] NFI - i'm soon reverting to the "if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit" === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.149.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] Mithrandir: can you tell me where I can find the list of packages that we actively removed from Ubuntu? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:09] dholbach: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/removals.txt [08:09] thanks a lot === koke [n=koke@adsl-76-197-62-161.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] hi dholbach, Mithrandir [08:14] hey Andrew === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=kagou@77.195.215.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] morning === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:21] hey pitti [08:22] Hi === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === null__ [n=null@60-241-43-186.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-165.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK2 [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:36] Good morning [08:36] hey pitti === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] Mithrandir: I'll sort out debootstrap in a bit if you haven't already [08:41] morning pitti [08:41] cjwatson: I haven't no. [08:42] what's breaking? [08:42] and could you let debootstrap through unapproved so that it's easier to test? :) [08:43] this is actually on feisty, with gutsy being a copy of feisty. [08:43] and yeah, I think I'll let some bits through === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:43] (waiting for feedback from doko about some java stuff before opening for general development) [08:44] pitti: can you give mvo the Bug.add_comment() bits you use in the retrace service? (bug 109213) [08:44] Malone bug 109213 in bughelper "recent LP rollout broke Bug.add_comment()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109213 [08:46] dholbach: too bad, codebrowse seems to be down :/ [08:46] dholbach: I'll give him an URL once he's online === dholbach hugs pitti === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nightwish [i=gsn1@segfault.kernel-oops.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-51-197.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-76-195-163-200.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:06] does anybody remember if we use gzip -9 or just gzip when compressing data.tar.gz for a deb package? === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] can someone tell me what is wrong with this command? [09:08] sed -i ../build/ubuntu/$y/C/*.html -e "s#ghelp:office#\.\./\.\./office/C/#g" [09:08] fabbione: gzip -9 i would have thought. that's what's in the packaging guide, last i knew [09:08] I get the error: [09:08] sed: -e expression #1, char 37: unterminated `s' command [09:08] sed: -e expression #1, char 98: unknown option to `s' [09:08] although maybe for a deb it's different [09:10] argh, I see the problem [09:11] mdke: $$y ? [09:11] The ^I is making me think it's in make. [09:12] StevenK: no, it was a different line in the script that wasn't working, not that one. I forgot to escape something... [09:12] ah, everything working now, phew === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:16] <\sh> moins === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] hi [09:20] lu saispo [09:22] hey seb128 [09:22] hey dholbach === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === encompass [n=lappy@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6ffa00-119.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kwah [n=kwah@gate.wfw.wtb.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:30] Hi all [09:30] tried #ubuntu-installer but it seems that everyone asleep [09:30] Where can I find an information about what "Install with driver update CD" variant of installation for? [09:31] kwah: hi [09:31] kwah: it might be a bit early for uk, you will likely get a reply if you wait [09:31] ok I'll wait then === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-81d4893e171cc584] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.48.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === harrisony [n=Harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has left #ubuntu-devel ["errr"] === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubiq [n=ubiq@116.21.115.88] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-03b4e203b628fed8] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] Yahoo! gutsy is open:-) [09:48] hunger: what do you mean? [09:49] doesn't seem very open to me :) [09:50] tepsipakki: mjg59 told me yesterday that airlied applied a patch to xorg-video-ati git that might fix bug 20283 [09:50] Malone bug 20283 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[X700] Really bad sync on HP NW8240" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20283 [09:50] I accepted a couple of packages, but it's not yet open for general development, no. [09:50] Soon [09:51] Mithrandir: what are the packages you accept now? [09:51] seb128: base-files, debootstrap, devscripts. [09:56] Mithrandir: could be get gnome-pkg-tools synced? Most new GNOME packages from Debian Build-Depends on a version newer than the feisty one [09:56] s/be get/we get === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:56] would be nice to have it available before starting working on updating GNOME [09:56] mdke: BTW you don't need to escape "." in the replacement part of a sed s-expression [09:56] cjwatson: oh. Thanks [09:56] seb128: gnome-pkg-tools has no compiled code, does it? [09:57] seb128: doko had an idea for a day of "toolchain-ish" syncs before opening up fully where such packages would be appropriate, yes. === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukkett1 [n=lukketto@151.23.45.237] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:58] cjwatson: no, it's a bunch of cdbs rules and documentation === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:02] seb128: I've just punted it through now then - won't harm anything [10:02] cjwatson: thank you === micah_c [n=micah@adsl-76-195-163-200.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54a67a96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Chipzz_ [i=chipzz@safehex.be] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel === Riddelll [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === masACC [i=maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thom_ [n=thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mirv_ [n=tajyrink@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-154-3.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser_ [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-1eea468a858cba7e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:14] good morning === jk [n=jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #Ubuntu-devel === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@198.247.173.233] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host47-174-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] morning mdz === kwah [n=kwah@gate.wfw.wtb.tue.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Danamania [n=Snak@073.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@26.205-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host30-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-183.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@131.Red-83-57-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] Treenaks: that's cool, waiting for .192 then ;) === Kim^J [n=hagbard@90.224.32.143] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host30-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:39] Yo, Who's responsible for the non-working postgrelsql-8.2 package? === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] Kim^J: in at arch ? [10:43] *what [10:43] you've reported the bug ? === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/session] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-ab492e84ffec500e] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] debconf (developer): <-- FSET tzdata/Zones/UTC seen true [10:50] debconf (developer): --> 10 tzdata/Zones/UTC doesn't exist === cjwatson eyeballs the Debian diff uploaded this morning REALLY HARD to see if it'll fix this [10:53] cjwatson: is that from my tzdata gutsy upload from yesterday? === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491e42c.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] pitti: yes [10:53] I'm working on it now [10:54] cjwatson: I doubt that today's Debian upload fixes it; I took the patch from it [10:55] pitti: the sudo message bug ? :-) [10:55] darn, I thought I tested it enough, it worked for upgrades and fresh installs [10:55] Kmos: hm? [10:55] Kim^J: details, please? [10:55] ok === _seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] pitti: this is debootstrap [10:56] bug 8556 [10:56] Malone bug 8556 in sudo "sudo password prompt could be clearer" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8556 [10:56] pitti: problem is that debootstrap links /etc/localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC and tzdata doesn't like it being UTC rather than Etc/UTC [10:56] pitti: so while I could change debootstrap, it seems to me that this could well affect upgrades too [10:59] argh, I see [10:59] there's still a debian/config diff from -3ubuntu2 to -4, so I'm looking at that [10:59] seems like it could also affect other top-level files in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ [11:04] pitti: really I'd like to be able to tell whether a zone is defined by Link in the backward file === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === philwyett [n=philip@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] and if so, migrate to the current zone name === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] pitti: how about I report a Debian bug about this and change debootstrap so that we can move on === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:05] hm, the backwards file isn't shipped; we could do that of course [11:05] but OTOH they won't disappear anytime soon [11:06] right, it's not good enough for gutsy final but it's good enough for now [11:06] agreed === timfrost [n=tim@125-238-156-109.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [i=freeflyi@211.147.215.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timfros1 [n=timfrost@125-238-156-109.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `23meg [n=m@unaffiliated/23meg/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jk [n=jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #Ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK2 [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubiq [n=ubiq@116.21.115.88] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] Kim^J: I am really interested in fixing postgresql bugs, but I need to know what's wrong first :) [11:23] Mithrandir: question, is MoM actually running? The website is back, but the HTML files are from March 7 [11:23] pitti: can you do something on bug 106753 ? [11:23] Malone bug 106753 in ddclient "Version 3.7.1 is out, please update!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106753 === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] Kmos: I don't particularly care personally, it's an universe package and we will get new versions from Debian [11:23] ok [11:23] Kmos: if you are interested in the package, feel invited to care for it :) [11:23] we are always embracing new developers [11:23] how to do it ? [11:24] Latest release: 3.7.0-3ubuntu1 [11:24] Uploaded By: Luke Yelavich [11:24] themuso do the latest one [11:24] Kmos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment is a good starting point [11:24] pitti: I wasn't aware it was back. [11:24] pitti: thx === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host166-248-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] Mithrandir: oh, then my hug for you yesterday was not justified :-P === pitti hugs Mithrandir anyway [11:25] heh [11:25] Kmos: if you have any question, #ubuntu-motu is your site :) [11:25] pitti: you should hug the sysadmins for fixing the box. :-P [11:25] Kmos: i. e. you should get acquainted with the basic procedures and then ask the MOTU community for guidance === jpon_ [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrando1 [n=brandon@198.247.173.233] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti hugs the sysadmins heartily === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:29] pitti: ok, thx === timfros1 [n=timfrost@125-238-156-109.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === thom_ is now known as thom === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jk [n=jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-222-22-190.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === [knap] [n=luis@217.129.215.237] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Demitar [n=demitar@c-212-031-183-175.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === racarr [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [n=james@83.216.156.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukkett2 [n=lukketto@host229-156-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === saispo [n=saispo@ryu.zarb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK2 [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a81-14-150-27.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _seaLne_ [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpytasz [n=dduck@81.219.176.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] Can some archive admin please let k3d into {edgy,feisty}-proposed? === Danamania [n=Snak@080.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] Mithrandir: mind if I wave through my debootstrap fix? [12:11] Fujitsu: thanks for working on this! === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] cjwatson: please [12:12] mvo: No problem. I don't like having upgrades broken. [12:12] I would have had the fix earlier if it didn't take so damn long to build. === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] :) === mvo hugs Fujitsu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu hugs mvo. === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] pitti: do you have any ideas about 76177? [12:31] Mithrandir: ah, there's finally an lshal [12:31] Mithrandir: the approach would be to fix hal's volume-probe to check if the partition is an evms volume and set volume.fsusage to something different than 'filesystem' ('evms' probably) [12:32] Mithrandir: the open question from my side is how to detect that; it seems to appear like a standard ext3 partition === bhale [n=bhale@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] brb [12:33] pitti: you can check for the metadata on it; I'm not sure if evms ships such a tool, but it could. [12:39] Mithrandir: as long as there is an unique magic on it, the volume prober can open the device itself, that wouldn't be a problem [12:39] Mithrandir: it already does that anyway for figuring out the file system [12:40] Mithrandir: do you happen to know a spec for this or shall I google a bit? [12:40] pitti: give me two minutes === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-142.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkamppeter [n=till@bl7-105-167.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] Mithrandir: ah, there seem to be evms specific ioctls, also for discovery [12:46] pitti: uh, it's just using devmapper so that'd be strange. Sure you aren't looking at 2.4 era information? [12:46] Mithrandir: entirely possible, the presentation I just looked at was from 2003 === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:49] 20 === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-devel === NuBus [n=Snak@100.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-6247029f4d163c4e] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] ARE WE THERE YET? === bhale ducks [12:53] hello bhale [12:53] hi andrew === Mithrandir makes simira's dog chase bhale the duck. [12:53] he loves ducks. [12:53] :) [12:53] Mithrandir: I didn't find anything more current, so I guess some RTFS is in order [12:54] Mithrandir: hal already detects dm-raid volumes, so this configuration is probably more like an lvm with multiple parts [12:54] pitti: yeah, maybe so. Anyway, I think we should fix it. [12:54] I agree === rajk [n=rajk@host-84-9-235-206.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@217.31.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === NuBus [n=Snak@100.a.001.bat.iprimus.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === leleobhz [n=leleobhz@unaffiliated/leleobhz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:07] Mithrandir: doesn't seem to be fixed in latest hal either, I reported it upstream === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === null__ [n=null@60-241-43-186.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lepax [n=lepax@84-253-253-215.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] mvo, ping [01:25] hello [01:25] does network manager automatically update the dns information for a wirless connection? === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lepax [n=lepax@84-253-253-215.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] null__: dns information is not 'for a connection', it's global -- /etc/resolv.conf [01:33] null__: and yes, n-m updates that [01:33] Treenaks, it does not update dns info for my connection [01:34] i get only this nameserver 192.168.1.1 [01:34] null__: please ask support questions in #ubuntu [01:34] null__: I think your DHCP server is giving out the wrong nameserver [01:34] instead of nameserver isp.nameserfver === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:35] null__: anyway, please ask support questions in #ubuntu [01:35] Treenaks, thanks for the info, ill check my router [01:35] cos i didnt know where the problem orignated from [01:36] pitti, is that true for our hal as well ? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2007-April/008143.html [01:37] ..."HAL can already manage password-protected USB [01:37] drives, which require approximately the same handling as remote SSHFS [01:37] directories."... [01:37] our hal is not different in that regard [01:37] except that his reasoning is a bit flawed [01:37] yay, that will make my life way easier for ltspfs then :) === Boni [n=Jonas@p85.212.128.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] shouldnt be different in its implementation [01:38] because the cleartext block devices (dm) appear in /sys and thus are detected automatically, whereas fuse devices aren't [01:38] just that we dont need passwords :) [01:38] right [01:38] Hello! Does anyone know how to display a GREP output in one single line? [01:39] Boni, grep blah *|tr -d "\n" [01:39] and no, this is not a support channel :) [01:40] ah damnit okay, I missunderstood the channel name :) [01:43] ogra: pong === TomaszD_ [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] Anyway, thank you very much, ogra! === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] mvo: excellent upgrade experience at http://technical-itch.co.uk/2007/04/20/ubuntu-704-upgrade-first-impressions/ [01:52] mdz: cool! that looks pretty good indeed :) === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === rajk [n=rajk@host-84-9-235-206.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chaks [n=chaks@yoper/team/Chaks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] hi [02:02] anybody here can help with ubuntu and hal policies? [02:03] seb128: I'm wondering, would it make sense to start building the gtk directfb frontend? [02:04] cjwatson: I've planned to sync GTK on Debian when gusty opens [02:04] seb128: we aren't using it, but all the build-deps needed for it are already in main as far as I can see, and it would reduce our gtk+2.0 diff and allow me to sync cdebconf [02:04] cjwatson: I didn't do previous cycle because directfb was outdated most of the cycle and I was too busy to work on it [02:04] seb128: ok, great === chaks [n=chaks@yoper/team/Chaks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-bd9c9e8a06eccef7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PhilK [n=PhilK@mail.pressure-pro.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:15] pitti: Yesterday keescook asked me to ping you today about checking to see if the dapper-security and edgy-security fixes for Bug #107628 have built, so ping. [02:15] Malone bug 107628 in lighttpd "DoS-vulnerability in lighttpd" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107628 === paddycarey [n=paddy@cpc1-blfs4-0-0-cust182.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.233.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] ScottK: unfortunately jackass is still busy, sorry [02:24] pitti: Thanks. I guess ping you again tomorrow? [02:24] ScottK: please do [02:24] OK. Will do. === jdong_ [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-SEVENTY-FIVE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:28] chaks: any details? [02:28] oh, he's not here any more === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [02:29] nght all [02:30] bye lifeless [02:30] night lifeless === Boni [n=Jonas@p85.212.128.220.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host175-194-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-068-253.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:46] pitti: in bug #104332, several users report success with my package in feisty-proposed. okay to upload to feisty-updates? [02:46] Malone bug 104332 in rdesktop "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104332 === Monk-e [n=guido-fe@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] siretart: no need to upload, they can be moved now === kagou [n=kagou@77.195.215.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] siretart: I would prefer mvo's or bdmurray's blessing with verification-done TBH, but you can already upload it of course (I can still defer the accepting) [02:48] seb128: not any more, this was just a temporary test :( [02:48] pitti: oh, k [02:48] pitti: it didn't work correctly? [02:49] seb128: for this case it did, but cprov mentioned a bug which needed to be fixed first [02:49] pitti: rdesktop? I tested that it installs, but I do not have a rdesktop setup (maybe bdmurray has one)? [02:49] sorry, I don't know any details [02:49] k [02:49] mvo: that doesn't work with vmware or a laptop? [02:50] seb128: we can? how? [02:50] siretart: we will hopefully be able to do this soon; we ran a first test yesterday [02:50] siretart: no, apparently not [02:50] pitti: is this the NativeSourceSyncing spec? [02:50] siretart: yes, so I was told (parts of it at least) [02:50] cool! [02:51] will it be available for all developers or for ubuntu-archive only? === siretart being very excited about this :) [02:51] siretart: only for the archive team, it's a normal soyuz CLI tool [02:51] pitti: I know of no free rdesktop server, siretart do you know one? my impression is that you need windows to test it [02:51] siretart: https://launchpad.canonical.com/Soyuz/NativeSourceSyncing [02:51] well, maybe it'll be integrated into LP some day, I don't know [02:51] cprov: that url is restricted, it asks me for username/password :( [02:52] mvo: ah, that doesn't work with the standard server we ship? too bad [02:52] mvo: I would be happy with taking the word of three other testers instead of your's; are you? [02:52] mvo: AFAIK, there is no free rdp server. you need an windows server to test it [02:52] siretart: dunno, l.c.c wiki used to be public, no ? [02:52] http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/ [02:53] mvo: I have access to a few Windows servers that run RDP if you want me to test something. [02:53] pitti: yes, I have this problem for some other verificiations as well, e.g. multimedia keys or em64t server miscompilation === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] cprov: only the 'help.launchpad.net' wiki. the l.c.c wiki was never public TTBOMK [02:54] StevenK: if you could just check that rdesktop from feisty-proposed works, that would be appreciated, (bug i#104332) [02:54] siretart: anyway, I'm expecting to discuss better features for MOTU/SRU in UDS Seville. It should include API for handling universe queue and also copying packages via the LP UI. [02:54] Ng: thanks, looking [02:54] siretart: I see one tester of the feisty-proposed package; if you can get me two more, I'll push it out [02:54] cprov: this sounds very exciting! :) === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] pitti: ok [02:54] Ng: have you tried out this thing? [02:54] siretart: can you test it yourself? [02:55] i have to wait until US esat coast gets up, but i think i can get you some testers [02:55] *east [02:55] mvo: Sure. If I get connected that's enough, or is there something specific I should look for? [02:55] siretart: if you have the setup to test it, your own testing counts as well, of course :) [02:56] StevenK: if it connects and works for some minutes, that should be fine [02:56] pitti: not too conviniently. Need to reinstall that test machien and find some way through the paket filter... [02:56] mvo: Noted, give me a few minutes. [02:57] StevenK: sure, thanks! [03:00] mvo: not at all recently and I kinda suspect that testing against a "real" RDP server (ie a windows machine) is better anyway [03:01] Ng: I just compiled it, but I seem to be unable to connect. still, thanks for the hint === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.56.196] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] m [03:08] mvo: Looks fine. [03:09] StevenK: thanks, could you please add that as a successful test to bug #104332 ? [03:09] Malone bug 104332 in rdesktop "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104332 [03:10] mvo: Certainly. Done. === chaks [n=chaks@yoper/team/Chaks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:13] StevenK: thanks! [03:17] mvo: Any time. === acacs [n=acacs@189.13.174.189] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:20] siretart: oh, the same fix was uploaded by Kees to -security, with some test results; so with StevenK's test this is fine for me to upload === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === acacs [n=acacs@189.13.174.189] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508dbce7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950BF47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === acacs [n=acacs@189.13.174.189] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackskad [n=blackska@vpnc178.ugent.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline824.toya.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === n3t0 [n=n3t0@201-13-56-208.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB_ [n=tomb@host81-153-34-30.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:54] doko: it's april! why arent the archives open yet!?!? :P === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sigix [n=bspindle@208.156.104.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:56] after upgrading to fiesty from edgy, I log in and the intializing screen (the little applet saying like Nautilus starting.. ) just stays there and metacity won't start... any ideas? [03:57] I have tried #ubuntu, nobody has a clue... [03:57] sigix: check if the loopback interface is up and if your clock is correct [03:58] pitti: got lo UP and time seems right... I can kick off metacity manually and it won't crash or anything... [03:59] sigix: does it happen with a clean user profile as well? [03:59] hmmm... not sure... be right back as I log out and back in with a new user... === sigix [n=bspindle@208.156.104.130] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === sigix [n=bspindle@208.156.104.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] pitti: that happens on my laptop as well.. === pitti blames seb128 [04:02] tepsipakki: no, now that you mention it it's most certainly an X bug!! [04:02] Heya [04:02] pitti: oh damn.. [04:02] tepsipakki: any idea where it hangs? I already suspected esound === tepsipakki goes fixin' === seb128 eyes pitti [04:03] pitti: I can see many aplay processes [04:03] tepsipakki: i. e. can you figure out which process stalls it and strace it maybe? [04:03] sigix: do you have a .gnomerc? [04:03] aplay! [04:03] hmm.. now that we are here maybe it's time to track this down [04:03] pitti: it does not happen with another user profile [04:04] tepsipakki: can you purge esound and check if that cures it? [04:04] tepsipakki: that symptom rings a bell [04:04] sure, a sec [04:04] seb128: would that be in .gnome? [04:04] not that esound would call aplay, of course [04:04] sigix: what .gnome? [04:05] seb128: oh, wait, gdm uses aplay, right? [04:05] Did someone had problems with Feisty Fawn and serial mouse? [04:05] seb128: I found it, there is a file in my home .gnomerc [04:05] sigix: in ~/ [04:05] sigix: what does it contain? [04:05] export WINDOW_MANAGER=~/.gnome-compiz-manager/openbox [04:05] that's it [04:05] delete it? [04:05] you used a non official gnome-compiz-manager? [04:05] yes === pitti bows to seb128 [04:06] move it away [04:06] beryl before upgrading [04:06] k, that's it then [04:06] thanks guys [04:06] as long as it's not an alsa-related issue. /me ducks === deejoe [n=deejoe@poppy.etrumeus.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:06] using non official software bit you [04:06] tepsipakki: that might explain your hang as well? I bet you used something like that for testing [04:06] ***ouch*** [04:06] well glad fiesty supports the eye candy now [04:06] pitti: no, this is a pretty stock edgy dist-upgraded to feisty in January I think === sigix [n=bspindle@208.156.104.130] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:07] no .gnomerc here [04:07] tepsipakki: don't happen to be using snd-via82xx on that machine, do you? [04:07] crimsun: no, i810 [04:07] seb128: however, kicking esound in the but hard enough to fly out of main is still one of my pet griefs [04:07] tepsipakki: meaning snd-intel8x0? [04:07] Hobbsee: they are open, just frozen due to low temperatures, remember it's April ;-) [04:07] crimsun: ah, yes [04:07] tepsipakki: ok, different issue then. [04:07] pitti: that would have been a nice SoC [04:08] doko: 22 degrees here, come on :) [04:08] would be nice for a bounty [04:08] pitti: lucky you, 28C here [04:08] 16 degrees here [04:08] seb128: Swap you. :-) [04:08] doko: you wrote in your mail that it would be open for general upload on 26 march... [04:08] ok, gdm loads as normally it would, but gdmplay/aplay is stuck and no sound is heard [04:09] doko: wasnt that i was whining about the "freeze for mass sync" part at all :P [04:09] Hobbsee: That's 11 months away, i suppose. I guess the toolchain is taking a while to come together :P [04:09] Fujitsu: haha [04:09] Fujitsu: is the 26th of march next year a thursday? [04:09] Hobbsee: No :( [04:09] argh, ... yeah, should be April ... [04:09] the year after? that's a *long* time for that toolchain... [04:10] doko: *grin* [04:10] pitti: killing esd makes the login to continue [04:10] Hobbsee: We want to be *really* sure. === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:10] StevenK: heh [04:10] duh, didn't think of that === blackskad [n=blackska@vpnc178.ugent.be] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:10] pitti: about your question, gdm uses /usr/lib/gdmplay which calls aplay indeed [04:10] tepsipakki: right, that's an old bug IIRC [04:11] bah, I thought that would have been fixed for ages [04:11] "In a shocking new move, Ubuntu has released Gutsy Gibbon, which looks just like Feisty Fawn." [04:11] crimsun: is it a known issue that nforce2 audio is known to be noisy? (ie. doing stuff on the desktop makes different kind of noice etc) [04:11] Then again, leaving the archive frozen the entire release ought to slow us down a tad. [04:12] pitti: we got quite some comment on the old bug during the feisty cycle about logins hanging due to esd [04:12] pitti: you don't read your bug mails? ;) [04:12] tepsipakki: That might not be the driver. [04:12] tepsipakki: affects many integrated audio chipsets. [04:12]